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This week, Kim welcomes Judge Phil Ginn to the show to discuss the importance of religious freedom in contemporary America. As the world changes dramatically, the relevance of America's founding principles comes to the forefront. Judge Ginn, with his rich background as a senior judge and now as the President of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, provides an intriguing perspective on how young generations are increasingly discerning the truths of the Christian faith, particularly on college campuses that are witnessing a unique revival. Their conversation weaves through the layers of historical context and present-day challenges, offering listeners clarity on why maintaining religious freedom is crucial for societal harmony and individual fulfillment.
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And welcome to The Kim Monson Show. I'm Kim Monson. We're going to have a conversation. Thank you so much for listening. Each of you are treasured and valued and have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I get to work with. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Greatly appreciate each and every one of them. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're over at the website. And that way you'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays that goes out on Sundays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And remember that socialism ultimately comes down to force. It's not about free stuff. The free stuff is just the carrot to get people to vote for it. And I'm very pleased this week of Independence Week, we have pre-recorded these shows with very special guests. And I'm pleased to have on the line with me Judge Phil Ginn. He is the president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary. And Judge Ginn, welcome to the show.
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Hey, Kim. It's my pleasure to be with you.
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Well, and let's begin. First of all, how is it that I call you Judge Ginn? Good.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, I tell folks that if you ever decide what you want to be when you grow up, you have to, by definition, grow up. And so I'm in about my fourth or fifth ideation of what I'm going to be when I grow up. But I've been probably... In two different settings, the judge in North Carolina, the last ranking I had was as a senior resident superior court judge here in North Carolina, which is the highest trial level of court in North Carolina.
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Okay, and how long did you do that, Judge Ginn?
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22 years total.
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Wow. And if we have time, we'll talk a little bit about what's happening over in the judiciary here in America. But we've got a pressing question that we want to talk about, particularly since you're president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary. And just tell us a little bit about the work of the seminary.
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Thanks, Kim. Seminary is about 33, 34 years old, somewhere in that neighborhood, founded by a fellow by the name of Norm Geisler, who probably is well-known to some of your listeners, who more than likely, I would say, is the foremost Christian apologist, certainly in our era. He died about five years ago. and was a great mentor to me and so many other folks in this regard. So it is a seminary that is based on defending the Christian faith, which is apologetics, doing so in a winsome way. We use philosophy in that regard to help people, as I indicate, help folks wrap their minds around what their hearts want to believe. And so we do a really good job of that. And we're very focused on evangelism and discipleship because that's how we say we train teachers. We train the trainers, we teach the teachers, and we disciple the disciples at our school.
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Well, I love that. And as a Christian apologetics, defender of the faith, there are a lot of young people, millennials, that I think that they're having a tugging on their heart. Many of the things that they've been taught in this culture, they have some things uncomfortable. I'm seeing more and more young people that are questioning and I think they're pursuing this relationship with Jesus. Some of them don't quite understand it yet, but I think that that is occurring. So what would you say to a young person that is searching here for their real meaning of life?
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Well, first of all, Kim, I thoroughly agree with your observations. And I've even described it, anecdotally at least, as pre-tremors to a major earthquake that I believe is coming in America and around the world. I think we're going to see a revival. And it is one of those things where it's going to come perhaps even despite of the church. If you look around, these anecdotes are, for the most part, happening in places that you wouldn't expect it to occur. For instance, college campuses. And we're seeing that at SES all over our nation. You just go down the list, and I'll leave many of them out, but Auburn University, Florida State University, Ohio State University, that one up there was led by the football team of all people. Clemson University, I'm well familiar and live very close to Appalachian State University, which may not be as well known as some of them, but it has 22,000 kids on it. Probably two years ago, we would have said that five or six percent were believers out of that 22,000. And all of a sudden, my little church up there is feeding two or three hundred of them on Wednesday nights because they are hungry for the message. Let me tell you one other thing that is exciting about that, Kim, is that George Barna is reflecting that that's the segment of the population that is really seeking the most right now. is Gen Z males. And what an opportunity we have as the church in America to raise a generation of Bible-believing, God-fearing men. What a wonderful thing that would be. So going to your exact question of what would I say to these young people, I would say to them, You know, the admonition of Scripture, give God all of your heart and all of your mind and all of your soul. And that means pursuing knowledge. And I had this one thing. I came to God as a believer in Jesus Christ at the age of five years old and certainly didn't have anywhere near a complete understanding of what that meant at five. But there came a time in my life where I really had to decide whether or not I was going to be a follower of Christ or not, and had some issues that, is the Bible inerrant and infallible? And part of me wanted not to believe that, and part of me wanted to believe that. And so that's when I came to SES to take one course, and Norm Geisler took me back into his office, and I walked out to... having signed up for the doctor of ministry program at SES. But again, we are a friend of skeptics. I don't think God minds us asking sincere questions. And he provides those answers to us if we simply seek them. I've spent many years now really digging into the Scripture. In fact, I will tell your listeners, the first class I took at SES, they had to look at cultural issues, various ones, and go into the Scripture and determine what the Scripture had to say about those particular issues. And then we had to argue the biblical position without ever referencing the Bible. That's the kind of thing we teach at SES. And what I discovered was that the Bible makes a lot of sense. And that's what I want these young people and anyone who comes to Christ. I want it to be an understanding, not only for you to understand it, but for you to be able to defend your faith in the face of a culture that sometimes is not open to that.
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So, Judge Ginn, the interesting thing about connecting a dot with our American founding, and then, as you were saying, the answers to sincere questions. is that Christ never used force to bring people to him. And the founders, and we'll get to the subject probably in the next segment, regarding religious freedom in America, is the founders did not want to use force regarding religion either. They felt that the Christian faith could stand on its own two feet. It didn't need to have force. And, of course, Christ never forced anybody to believe in him.
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Well, you know, first of all, my dad used to, who's a Baptist preacher, told me on many occasions he'd never seen anybody bludgeoned into the kingdom of heaven. And I think that's very true. And I think that's counterproductive. That's essentially what Islam wants to do. If you don't voluntarily commit your life to Islam, then you face dire consequences until you do, or death if you don't. But the reality is, as we look at these things, we want to fully understand where we are. And ironically, it was attacks on Christianity from within Christianity that the Founding Fathers wanted to protect. You had theocracies that, you know, Massachusetts, of all places, was a theocracy at the time of the American Revolution. In Rhode Island, the state of Rhode Island came to be because of religious persecution within Christianity. These folks left Massachusetts and formed Rhode Island. I'm proud to say that my state, North Carolina, was one of the two states that refused to sign the Constitution until we had the Bill of Rights, which allowed us to worship God in any way that we see fit, and not only that, but to serve God in any way that we see fit. And America was never intended to be a theocracy at all. And so now what's changed is that we're no longer trying to protect Christianity from Christianity. We're trying to protect Christianity from all of the other would-be assassins out there of our faith.
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Well, and we are in a really interesting time in America right now. And so we're going to really ask this pressing question of why is religious freedom important in America today? And so we'll talk about that when we come back from break. But did want to mention the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. They are a great sponsor of the show. As you all know, I am an independent broadcaster on an independent station, and it's because of these great sponsors and, of course, all of your support. And the Roger Mangan Insurance Team wants you to feel safe and well served to understand your insurance coverage and know that their office will respond to your caller text 24 hours a day. So for that 24-hour peace of mind, call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And do you want more freedom and confidence with your money? Well, Mint Financial Strategies can help. They're an independent firm with over 25 years of experience. And as an accredited investment fiduciary, they put your best interests first, always. With a strategy-first approach, they'll help you build a plan that fits your life perfectly. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. Pleased to be talking with Judge Phil Ginn. He is the president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary based in North Carolina. Judge, again, question on the table. Religious freedom was very important. In fact, it was put into the First Amendment of our Bill of Rights by our founders. But why is religious freedom important in America today?
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Well, Kim, not only is it in the First Amendment, it is the first protection in the First Amendment. It is before freedom of speech. But in reality, those two go together. You know, what we ask for, certainly at Southern Evangelical Seminary and Christianity as a whole, I think, is free access to the marketplace. And by that, I mean we want to be considered along with every other item that is to be considered, because I believe firmly in my heart that if you look at Christianity with an open mind, that it is far more palatable to the human brain than is any other system of faith. And Norm Geisler co-authored a book with my good friend Frank Turek entitled I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. And Frank has just rewritten that book. It will probably be out in the next few months. I certainly urge your listeners to get a hold of that because it is the essence of what we teach at SES. And that is a thoughtful approach to Christianity and to its defense, and this understanding that Let me just put it to you this way. I don't think the radical left or whatever you want to call the sinister part of our populace and our culture really totally wants to eradicate Christianity. They just want to confine us so that they will say to us, you can worship God any way you want within the confines of your stained glass windows. But don't bring it outside of that. And that's the compromise that they're trying to get us to adhere to. But that is certainly in contravention of the Great Commission where Jesus said, go and make disciples and go into all the world and make disciples. So we're seeking access. We should be seeking access to the marketplace so that we can proclaim the gospel. practicality of Christianity. Certainly don't want to take away from the part of the Holy Spirit within this, but we've got so many Christians out there, at least so-called Christians, who don't think and have not thought through their faith, and who have their faith simply based on maybe what mom and dad said to them, or maybe on something they've read somewhere, or maybe it's just a cultural Christianity that they've put by their name to maybe help their business or whatever it may be. And it has no roots. It's like the seed that fell on hard ground. It may take a little bit of a root and then dies out because there's not fertile soil for it to be there. And I think that our freedom... should extend to the point where we practice our freedom, our religion, our faith, because Christianity I don't think is a religion. It's a relationship. But we practice what we believe in public and in a way that honors our faith. I just don't think Christianity was created to be quiet.
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Well, not at all. In Acts, you can see when people hear the word that thousands would come to faith sometimes on a specific day. So hearing truth is what is so important. And when Pilate was talking to Christ, when he says, what is truth? I've always thought there's a potential... interesting point regarding what was the inflection that he had. He said, what is truth? As you mentioned, a sincere question, or he could have been very skeptical. What is truth? I don't know for sure what that is, but Christ is the truth and the way, the truth and the life. And I think that, that we need to, as you say, we need to be talking about this and out in the public, not within the confines, just be in between the stained glass windows.
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I absolutely agree with you, Kim, that we need to do this in a loving way. But, you know, in a world out there that tells you that there are no absolutes, Christianity certainly believes that there are. You just made an absolute statement that Jesus Christ is the truth, and I believe that. He is the way. He's the only way of salvation that's given to us. But at the same time, you know, sometimes the truth hurts, Ken. And When it goes up against, truth is not tolerant of that which is not true. And we just need to understand that as a people, and we need to portray that as a culture. Charles Spurgeon, I love him. I've got a lot of his quotes. And he said this one time. He said, men are perishing. And if it be unpolite to tell them so, it can only be so where the devil is the master of ceremonies. Out upon your soul-destroying politeness, the Lord gives us a little honest love to souls, and this superficial gentility will soon vanish. We've got to be verbal, and we have to also portray the truth of Christ through our lives and how we treat other people, but we have to tell the truth.
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We do. So let's talk a little bit about the founders, because they realized religious freedom was so important. I think they felt that Christianity could stand on its own in the battle of ideas. But there are those that have said that the founders, that they weren't Christians. How do you address that narrative out there?
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Well, you know, it's not original with me. Very little is original with me. I'm a good editor, but I'm not very original. And one of my friends put it this way, Kim. He said, if God trusted you with breath today, don't insult him by acting like your presence is optional. If you're alive, act like it. Fight like it. laugh like it, and serve like it. And we have to, again, go back to the point where we give Christ all of our hearts, all of our souls, and all of our mind, and we have to focus on Him, and then we have to carry that message to those people we love. Barry McGuire, I recommend trying to think what his book is, Ignite America, I believe is the name of his book that he's written. And the point he makes is that we ought to be living our lives so that we move people one step closer to God in every interaction with us. And it's a very practical application of sharing our faith. and that's what we need to be about. Paul wrote in Ephesians 5, he said, redeem the time, and the time that he talked about is a business, it's like a commodity, it's a business term, and that we are supposed to utilize our time for the kingdom of God, and it's an intentional act, and so many of us, Kim, and I do this, I'm not I'm not an angel by any means, and I do this. We are unintentional as we go through our daily activities. We just exist. And that's why I say we need to act like it, we need to fight like it, we need to laugh like it, and we need to serve like it, that we are Christians and that God has something for us to do today.
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Well, he certainly does. As I open my show, I say that we were made for this moment. And I really do believe that we were made for this moment in history. We're in a really historical time. And Judge Phil Ginn, I... I broach the suggestion that I think that we are in the third founding of America. And I think this revival that you're talking about is a big part of that as well. But, of course, the founding, the initial, was the Revolutionary War, Declaration, the Constitution. The second was the Civil War to... You know, answer this question, can one man be property of another? That doesn't match up with the vision of the Declaration that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. And so we had to answer that question. Now I think that we are in this big question of who are we as America? And it's an exciting time, and I do think that we were made for this moment.
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It is an Esther moment. And I don't know that a lot of Christians are completely understanding that. And Kim, I would say to you, I agree with you. But the issue this time may be whether or not a child in the womb is a person. And that's just as big an issue for me as slavery was, because we're not doing that. We're not treating that person in the womb as a full human being. You know, we're God's workmanship. Ephesians 2 tells us we're God's workmanship. We're created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we ought to walk in them. And that's what Christianity is all about. Now, I would take it one step further from you, Kim, and I do think that we may be in a reconstruction period, if you want me to phrase it that way. But there are also factors out there that align with what happened in Germany. post the beginning of the Great Depression and prior to the rise and fall of the Third Reich. And what happened there was there came to be a fight between the far right and the far left, as exemplified in fascism versus communism. And the great group in the middle was silent. or they aligned with one of the radical groups or the other. And what ended up was that Germany was either going to be communist or fascist, and they chose fascism, obviously. But it's the same animal under different stripes. Both of them are autocratic, elitist governments. And so we see that happening in America today. There is a fight over the very soul and the heart of America. And not only from a religious or a spiritual standpoint, that certainly is their fight there. But democracy is in peril in America because it's being fought over between two potentially radical groups. Right now, the group that's more focused on that is, as I noticed in the entrance to your show, you talked about socialism. And that's the group that is most active right now. But there ultimately will be a reaction from the far right if all of this chaos is not checked in some way.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. We are pre-recording these shows for Independence Week. And very pleased to have on the line with me Judge Phil Ginn. He was a judge in North Carolina for 22 years. He's now the president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary. And religious freedom... is, as you mentioned, the very first thing in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. And it is under attack, but in some ways I think it's very overt, and in some ways it's very under the radar. And Donald Trump is making some strides in assuring religious freedom, yes or no?
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Absolutely. I'm very pleased with some of the things that he's doing. But I would hasten to add that Mr. Trump is not the savior of us or even our nation. I certainly am thrilled with some of the actions he's taken to protect religious liberty. But even in the big, beautiful bill, there's some things in there that are not very helpful to Christianity and other faiths. You know, what's what our problem is, is that and Mr. Trump has certainly ran into this in his first term. He's doing better with this in the second term. But we've got a bureaucracy that literally is running our nation in so many ways. And you saw saw Elon Musk and and make an attempt to to change that and how difficult it is to change that because they're so embedded in that. It's kind of like cancer. It's hard to get it all out, and if you don't get it all out, it eventually will kill you.
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Well, and our founders knew that we did not want to have this. Bureaucracy has become what people were afraid of. This entity, it's unelected, it's unaccountable, and we see that it has this insatiable appetite for more and more of the fruits of our labor and our property. And the founders knew that that was not what America should be. They said, what could happen if people could own property and have liberty? And what could happen? Well, America happened. We had this amazing, robust middle class where everyday people could thrive and prosper. This bureaucratic state really wants to have, I think, total control over everyday people, over Americans.
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Well, I don't know if you guys have anything like kudzu out in your neck of the woods. Here in the South, the railways imported a van from Japan known as kudzu. And that was to stabilize the banks. They were having a lot of trouble with erosion, so they thought this vine would help with erosion. Well, it certainly helped with erosion, but it takes over everything. It is a parasitic vine that grows everywhere, will grow over a tree and kill the tree. Essentially, it's been a battle ever since that in the South to keep this vine beaten back long enough to preserve the natural plant species that are here. And I think that this creeping concept that you and I mentioned offline of the ends justifying the means, that mentality... is present in so many segments of our American culture. And to these people, anarchy is preferable to order if you happen to disagree with the norm, regardless of whether it's legitimate or not. And so we find a system that really is rigged in an unethical way Because the accepted methodology in order to get what you want is to do whatever it takes to get what you want. And you find that there is this segment, socialism, the anarchists that are out there, they would say that any action is justifiable based on the personal importance of that which they seek. And You even are seeing the justification of murder to make some sort of statement about a perceived grievance. That's what happened with the UnitedHealthcare CEO. And here's the deal. If the church wants to be left alone and if it wants to be secured, all we have to do is to go inside the stained glass windows, close the door, and keep our faith to ourselves. And sadly, many churches are willing to do that. While others have chosen, Kim, to take the path of easy compliance with social mores that are completely inconsistent with biblical teaching. So this is certainly the picture of an apostate church in America. And they're kind of like the old song. They're part of the dead and dying in terms of their faith. But, you know, this easy path of compliance and or silence... is not the journey of Christ, Ken. And I'm so thankful that there are many fine examples of churches that are being led by fearless and faithful shepherds out there who are leading the way and facing the giants of a counterculture toward Christianity, at least. And just to give you a couple, Jack Hibbs and Alan Jackson, not the singer Alan, but Pastor Alan Jackson, they're really speaking into the culture. And I know that if I look at it, I urge your listeners to look at this. As we see these no kings protests, look at the theology behind them. There's theology in everything that they're doing. And there's biblical references for everything that's going on in our country right now. If you read the scriptures, none of this is new or should be new to us. You even go back to the Old Testament, and it talks about in the time when there were no kings, everyone did what was right in their own eyes. Go back to Isaiah 56. All of us have gone astray, each to his own way. And so that's where we are in America. They're pushing this concept of truth is not absolute. It's relevant. And so therefore, we don't have a guideline in America as we once did for you and me to back our opinions up to so that as you and I backed our opinions up to the guideline, we actually got closer together because we got closer to the guideline. And What's happening is we've erased that guideline in America. Then you've got your opinion, Kim, and I've got mine. And I'm going to try to get in power to enforce my opinion on you before you can get in power to enforce your opinion on me. And you see that in Washington, D.C. all the time. You see it in all of these protests that are going around all over the country.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and you mentioned this No Kings protests slash riots, and I've done some research on it. We're going to be getting more information on it on a regular basis. But as you mentioned, some of the language that they use, they have pulled words from our Constitution. They've pulled words that people have learned about that it seems like it makes sense. You said that there's biblical references. And America was founded on this idea that we the people would govern ourselves, but within those Christian principles as well. Now, that wasn't in the Constitution, but these principles that were part of our founding, which I think— Well, it certainly was.
SPEAKER 08 :
It certainly was indirectly, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, indirectly, yes. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
And again, the whole idea of democracy is based upon the concept of a moral and God-fearing people. If you look at the Declaration of Independence, if you look at the preamble to the Constitution, it is dependent upon people who fear God. and who revere the morality that goes with God and that belief in God. And we're veering away from that. And we're being attacked in two ways. We're being attacked racially, and we're being attacked sexually. Those are the two ways that we're being attacked in America. That's what they're using. They can't use the money part. You know, when communism came to power in Russia, it was economics that they used to build their case upon. And here it is not that, because everybody's doing pretty well in America. So they had to base it on race, and they based it on all of these deviant and... concept of sex up to and including abortion, which is nothing more than a protection of some misguided concept of sexual freedom.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Okay. Judge Ginn, you mentioned fear of God. Does that mean to be afraid of God, or what does that term mean?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think it's got that dual meaning. In fact, if you go to, I believe it's 2 Corinthians 5, Paul says that we serve God based on two things. One is the fear of God. And, you know, we hear so much in churches about love these days, but we forget that judgment has been given to Christ. He says that. He said, the Father is not going to be judging. He's given judgment to me. And so there's not only a God who is loved, there is a God who is righteous. And we can't attain that righteousness without coming to Christ and obtaining his righteousness. But there's more to it than that, because this fear is understanding the awesomeness of God. I've sometimes described it as an amoeba trying to understand the world of the scientist on the other end of the microscope. That's a poor analogy, but that's the best I can come up with. God is so much greater than you and I are that we don't really begin, even when we seek him, to understand him. It's too much. And then we're also governed by the love of God. which is different than a lot of people would understand in today's market. But Paul says we are compelled because of the love of God, and it's the same idea of centrifugal force where you put a bucket full. The water in the bucket slung it around your head and the water's held to the bottom of the bucket. It's that same concept that we are held to the bottom of the bucket because of our of our love for God, which is merely reflection of his love for us. But yeah, there's there needs to be a greater fear of God in this nation.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Thank you for the clarification on that, Judge Ginn. And I have so many questions in my brain.
SPEAKER 08 :
I do, too. I do, too. We figure out the answer. Maybe you can explain it to me.
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and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're at the website. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. It is Independence Week. We are pre-recording the shows for this week with very special guests. And I am talking with Judge Phil Ginn. He was a judge for 22 years in North Carolina. He's the president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary. And We were talking about religious freedom and also Christianity, why religious freedom is important in America to today. Is there real discrimination occurring in America against Christians and Christianity?
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Oh, absolutely. It is not framed that way. But even in Colorado, there were the bill was meandering through the House and the Senate regarding parents who have children. Maybe a child who is seeking some sort of clarity on their gender and the parents cannot espouse biblical worldview for fear of losing custody of the child. And that that's happening all over down in Florida just a week or so ago, the Florida I think she was Miss North Florida, Miss American Paget. I'm not exactly sure what her title was, but she had her crown removed because she was not willing to acknowledge transgenderism as a norm. And so we see that, and a lot of it has to do with major issues that I talked about earlier, which is abortion. If you are pro-life for the child in the womb, then our culture will attack you vehemently. And if you are in any way opposed to the deviancy of sexuality that is out there that is foreign to the Word of God, then you're going to be labeled and you're going to be attacked. And it's going to be based on you're not tolerant of other people.
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That's what they're going to say. Well, and we are all sinners. And that is why it is so important to have this relationship with Jesus Christ, because His blood wipes all of that away. So with that, understanding that we are all sinners... And that Christ wants us to all come to Him. We can all be forgiven for what we have done. Correct, Judge Ginn?
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Well, I say, and I get a little pushback from this, but I tell people that nobody goes to hell because they're sinners. They go to hell because they have rejected Christ. I didn't want to take away the idea that we have to repent of our sins. That's not what I'm saying. But that's part of accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior. You come to Christ and you repent of your sins. I think in that order. But if sin were the only criteria, then hell would be filled up because we all are sinners. And heaven would be empty. Right. but the person of Christ is that belief, and it's not just... And if you'll notice in the Bible, Kim, every time belief regard to Christ is mentioned, it is followed by a preposition. Belief in, believe on. Except that over in James where it says the demons believe... And they tremble. If you notice, there's not a preposition after that. And so it's more than this head concept. And certainly I don't want to detract from that because I've said before that we need to believe God with all of our mind. And we do. Because Paul says we need the mind that is in Christ Jesus. We've got to turn our whole life over to him. But this lordship of Christ is something that we have issues with sometimes in our own personal life.
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Right. So, Judge Ginn, somebody said to me one time that the story of the Bible, because there are some things in the Old Testament, as I've read them, I'm like, whew, that's a little wild. And if you pull those things out in just that particular context... It can make things hard to understand, but somebody said that the Bible, from beginning to end, as you read it, is this story of God continually pursuing man, to have a relationship with man. What would you say to that, Judge Ginn?
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Oh, absolutely. You know, I've often said the Old Testament is the promise, and the New Testament is the fulfillment of that promise. But as you go, even if you study the book of Revelation, you go back and it's chock full of things that you find in Ezekiel and Daniel and even Genesis. And so it's so important to see that. Now, there are parts of the Bible that I don't understand. I never will understand them. And Billy Graham was the one, I think, who said, it's not the parts of the Bible that I don't understand that worry me. It's the part that I do understand that worries me. And so the Bible does tell a story, and certainly it doesn't leave out those things which are difficult. As a matter of fact, that's one of the proofs of the gospel. If I were one of the founders of our faith in terms of the early church fathers, I would not have written the gospels that included things that were negative about me. if I had been Peter, I would have made sure that I had left out the fact that I denied Christ three times.
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Interesting.
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And so that's one of the proofs, and that is that they put in those things which were negative. You look at the Koran, and any of these would be gods, and there's no negatives about it. But, you know, Christianity is honest. In fact, Jesus said to us, in this world you will have trouble. He didn't hide that promise. He didn't say to us, everything's going to be hunky-dory. It's going to be tough if you really are my follower.
SPEAKER 14 :
And, and that is, that's so true. And so to be a follower, let's, we have just a few minutes left to be a follower in this time. And we've talked, I think we've hit on this quite a bit here in America. Just condense this in to just about three minutes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Uh, well, you know, I, I think that, um, um, What we were talking about earlier, let me just give you a Barna statistic. Less than 5% of the people sitting in a church pew on Sunday morning in America has a biblical worldview. And so if you don't have a biblical worldview as a Christian, you're in trouble. Your faith is already in trouble. Now, couple that with another statistic that says only 5% or 6% of our churches in America have an effective discipleship program. So we're not teaching the tenets of our faith. We're not coming alongside of people and teaching them the Great Commission of go ye therefore and make disciples. It doesn't even say to go and do evangelism. It says go and make disciples. And so that's one of the things that I want us to understand. The other thing that is a soft... concept of God's a loving God and he's going to accept you the way you are and you know it's just so good for you to come and we're going to let you in but I believe it was Sinclair Ferguson he's a pastor who wrote that it's wrong to say that God accepts us the way we are in fact it is God accepts us through Christ despite the way we are, and he doesn't intend to leave us that way. And so we need to remember that in the American church. We need a return to biblically-based understanding of our faith, and we need to return to a discipling of individual Christians and not leaving them out there open and unprotected in a culture that will devour them if it's possible.
SPEAKER 14 :
And we are making progress, I think, as we are shedding more and more light on what's happening in this culture and that Christ is the answer to what we need to do. And people that believe in Christ engaging in the public square, in this battle of ideas, equipped with an understanding of our Christian faith. That's what you do. at the Southern Evangelical Seminary, and I greatly appreciate this interview. It's created a lot of things going through my brain. I will be ruminating on this interview quite a bit, Judge Phil Ginn.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, let me, Kim, very quickly, let me just say, I urge people to go to ses.edu. There is help there for you if you want to defend your faith, if you want to do nothing more than understand your faith better. there's practical help going to be available for you. So go there, take a look at it, contact me. We'll help you, anybody that wants help.
SPEAKER 14 :
And again, what's that website?
SPEAKER 08 :
S-E-S, S-E-S dot E-D-U.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, and that stands for Southern Evangelical Seminary. Judge Filgin, thank you so much. I greatly appreciate this interview.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Ken. My pleasure. Let's do it again.
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Let's do it again. Our quote for the end of the show is from Charles Spurgeon, and he said this, My entire theology can be condensed into four words. Jesus died for me. And my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Indeed, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment. And I get to work with an amazing team. That is producer Joe, producer Nicole. And Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting, we are an independent voice on an independent station and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I am so pleased and honored to have on the line with me Dr. Alan Gelso. He's an American historian, and he serves as senior research scholar in the Council of the Humanities and director of the Initiative on Politics and Statesmanship in the James Madison Program at Princeton University. And he formerly was a professor at the History of Gettysburg College. Dr. Gelso, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thank you, Kim.
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And it's so appropriate to have you as our first guest. The battle, which was in July, let's see, July 1 through July 3. Now the year 1863. Am I remembering it right?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's still 1863, yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. The battle was in the summer. And I guess, first of all, let's talk about the significance of the battle. And I guess that's a great segue into your most recent book, Robert E. Lee, A Life. And Robert E. Lee, after the Battle of Gettysburg, can you imagine getting up and what was going through his mind on July 4 in 1863 after this battle?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I think it could be boiled down to one sentence, and that is, how do I get out of here? True. Because the great battle that occurs at Gettysburg on July 1, 2, and 3 of 1863 was really a major initiative of Lee's. This was really Lee's idea about how the Southern Confederacy, which had been carrying on this war now for a little bit more than two years, This was a piece in what Lee thought was the only really workable strategy for the Confederacy to achieve independence from the United States. Now, he reasoned this way. The Southern Confederacy, which at this point is composed effectively of 11 states of the American South that have tried to secede from the Union, Lee understood this. The South didn't have the heft, economically, industrially, and otherwise, that the northern states had. So going into this civil war, the odds were all against the Confederacy. If the Confederacy was going to win, it was going to have to go into this heavyweight bout, trying to score a surprise knockout in the first round or two. Because if the war ground on after that, then the Confederacy would simply be worn down and worn away and would lose the war. So Lee's reasoning is, we have to take the initiative. This Confederate Army, which he called the Army of Northern Virginia, has to jump from Virginia across the Potomac into Maryland, into Pennsylvania. And in the summer of 1863, it has to get loose in Pennsylvania, because if it does, if it can do that successfully, in fact, if it can find some way to fight a battle with the major United States forces, opposing and which is the army of the potomac his reasoning was that more than public opinion would be so fatigued at this it would be so revolted by it that they would demand of the lincoln administration better negotiations with the confederates at that point once once negotiations began really understood no one was going to go back into this this horrible fratricidal war so it leaves gambling but it's a good gamble it's an intelligent gamble and had a lot going for it because not only Not only is he looking at the state of mind of Northerners, he's also looking at what's happened at election time. Back in the preceding November, Abraham Lincoln's party, the Republicans, had lost something like 35 seats in the House of Representatives and two key governorships in the North. Governorship of New York, the governorship of New Jersey. Well, the governorships of Pennsylvania and Ohio were up for election in the fall of 1863. Lee knows if he can show that the Lincoln administration is helpless and impotent and can't deal with the Confederates who are invading Pennsylvania, then voters in Pennsylvania and Ohio are going to go to the polls. They're going to elect anti-administration governors. And that means you're going to have this central chunk of the northern states in opposition to Lincoln. And they can just fold their arms and say to President Lincoln, we're not cooperating with this war any longer. You're going to have to open negotiations with the Confederacy. And at that moment, really, it's inevitable. The Confederates are going to obtain their independence. So Lee launches this invasion of Pennsylvania. And yes, there's an element of a gamble to it, but it's a shrewd gamble. And the really terrifying thing about this, Kim, is how very close he came to winning that gamble. Because if Lee's army had been victorious at Gettysburg, as for two of the three days of the battle, it really was, or even if it had just been able to run willy-nilly around the Pennsylvania countryside without the Union doing very much to stump them, it would have had an incredibly destructive effect. And perhaps we would be looking at a very different kind of America today than we were looking at in 1863, or that we look at today as it really exists.
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Well, Dr. Kelso, the Civil War, many people think that it was really a war about slavery, which ultimately that question, and it was really the question of would slavery be expanded into the new territories? That's my understanding. That was the initial question. kind of question on that. But what Lincoln looked at it as he wanted to keep the union together. And was Lee looking more at like a states' rights issue? Or how would you frame that?
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Well, the causes of the American Civil War are always a lively subject of debate. And I like to get philosophical at moments like that and say, all right, let's talk about what causes something. There's a real sense in which sectionalism is one cause. Because if slavery had been legal, let's say, in Minnesota and Maine and Florida and Louisiana, there would never have been a civil war, because they're not in a position to support each other. But the states where slavery was legal were all contiguous. They all shared common borders. You could look at a map and look at those slave states, and you could say, hey, I could see that would be a functioning, viable, independent nation. So sectionalism is one. There's another cause here, too, and that is federalism. Ours is a federal system of government. It's states in a union under a federal constitution. But the habit of federalism led a lot of people to think that the states somehow possessed a sovereignty of their own, which, if you read the Constitution with any kind of care, you realize that's really not the case. But many people talked themselves into believing that states had that kind of sovereignty. And so it was easy in those days then to conclude, well, if states have that kind of sovereignty, then they can walk away from the Union. I mean, if that's not sovereignty, we don't know what is. But then, ultimately, there's slavery. Slavery is the one item in this equation which, if you take it out, there's no civil war. I don't care what the circumstances are. But put slavery back into the equation, that's when you get civil war. So at the end of the day, if people ask me to put my finger on one thing and call it the cause of the Civil War, there's simply no question. It was slavery. And you know the people who tell us that are the Southerners themselves. In the resolutions that their state conventions and legislatures passed at the very beginning of the Civil War in 1861, they're all very candid about this. We're doing this to protect slavery. Afterwards, in the years after the war, a lot of Southerners who were embarrassed by that would try to insist, well, no, no, no, no, it was about these other things. Well, yeah, to a certain degree, but not to a degree that put the issue of slavery in the shadow. If you've got to put your finger on one thing, it's slavery.
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But many of those that fought on the southern side did not own slaves. How did they get co-opted into that?
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Well, part of it was because you have to look carefully at what we mean by slave ownership. If you look at the southern population right on the eve of the Civil War, probably slave ownership amounts to no more than one-third of the white population of the South. That's quite a bit, though. Yeah, that's a But it's actually more widespread than that, because you have to remember that slaves are not just owned by individuals. They're also owned by families. So, in fact, you can have someone who is a junior member of a family. I'll tell you, someone who is an 18-year-old. All right, they may not be owning slaves in their own right, but they might be part of a family that does. At that moment, suddenly the percentage of Southerners who are involved in the slave system gets a lot bigger, just in mathematical terms. And then if you look at the composition of the Southern armies, especially at Robert E. Lee's army of Northern Virginia, a very fine analysis of this was done by a colleague of mine, Joseph Glathar, at the University of North Carolina. He analyzed the slave ownership patterns of the soldiers of Lee's army. There, the patterns of slave ownership were actually larger than at the than the percentages in the southern population as a whole, so that the Confederate army actually had an even clearer investment in protecting slavery than you might say the population of the South as a whole. So don't underestimate, just by doing simple numerical calculations, don't underestimate the pervasiveness of the slave system, because many people who might not actually own a slave were involved in the slave system in a variety of ways.
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Wow, fascinating. We have just a couple of minutes before we go to break. Let's just talk a little bit about your books. I mean, you've written a number of different books. The most recent was Robert E. Lee. But you also did a book on Gettysburg that I think is very important. And many of these books, I really highly recommend that people have them in hardback copy in their freedom libraries. Would you say that there is one book that you've written that stands out among the others, or would you say they're all equal in importance?
SPEAKER 07 :
Kim, that's like asking me which is my favorite child. I get in a lot of trouble that way. Of course, what I'm tempted to say is, oh, no, no, I regard them all equally. Therefore, your listeners should all go out and buy all of them. But the Gettysburg book is a significant book in a lot of ways. It's a very big book. It's about eight weeks on the New York Times bestseller list when it came out back in 2013. And I would say I'm a little bit fond of it. I'm also fond of some of the stuff that I've done on the subject of Abraham Lincoln and my early book on Lincoln from 1999, Abraham Lincoln, Redeemer President. I suppose if I had to pick one off the line and say, That one's my favorite. It might very likely be Redeemer President. But I have to say that right in Gettysburg was a tremendous amount of fun because I was doing it right there in Gettysburg itself. So I was talking about this great battle while being able to walk out my door and walk around over the very battlefield I was describing. And I think that gave me something of an advantage in the sense that when I was talking about the battle, I wasn't just talking about a map and rectangles and squares moving across the map. I was actually looking at the lay of the land itself and seeing the ground as the participants in the battle had very much seen it. So that gave a particularly important attraction to the writing of that book.
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Fascinating. And that book is Gettysburg, The Last Invasion by Dr. Alan Gelso. And we're having a great conversation about the Gettysburg Address. This is being broadcast on the 20th, the day after the anniversary of the Gettysburg Address. And just such important conversations. We get to do this. I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And also thank you to the National Shooting Sports Foundation for their gold sponsorship of the show as well. And I am blessed to work with great people as sponsors of our show. I know each and every one of them personally and highly recommend them. And if you've been injured, you certainly should reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law. You can have a complimentary phone call or appointment, initial consultation, and really appreciate what they do. But John Bozen is on the line. John, welcome.
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Good morning, Kim. And, yeah, as we celebrate our nation's birthday, we've got a lot to be thankful for.
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We do have a lot to be thankful for. We're in very interesting times. 250 years ago at this time, 1775, a lot was going on. The army was created. Patrick Henry gave his give me liberty or give me death speech. The battles of Lexington and Concord. So a lot was happening. And so I just wanted to get your thoughts about our independence, the Declaration of Independence.
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Well, we've got, again, as I said, we've got so much to be thankful for that the men and the women that founded this country put everything on the line for a vision that was unique at that time to the world. And they sacrificed almost everything. They didn't know what was going to happen, but they had this vision. And they took bold action. And when they signed, the founding fathers signed that Declaration of Independence. uh... pretty much not just declaring that that we were going to do something different uh... but they put their literally the next on the line and uh... the sacrifices they made the wisdom that they exhibited in in the declaration of independence the constitution it just gives us i mean it just so unique so special and it makes me so proud to be an american And we've talked about this, Kim. Now it is this generation's time to stand up to make sure that we preserve what our forefathers did and did so well so long ago.
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Well, and we do, John Bozen. We have a duty and a responsibility. As we look back over the last 250 years, and those that have given their lives, been willing to give their lives for our liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom, we have a duty to preserve, conserve that. It's certainly under attack. I think the enemy of this is more... in many ways, overt its policy and taxation, although taxation was probably the thing that was the real catalyst for the colonists as well, but fees where government becomes the king instead of we the people being able to govern ourselves, John.
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Yeah, absolutely. And we've done an incredible job, 250 years coming up here. And, again, something special, never seen in the world before. And we're going to have to fight to keep what we've got, no questions about it.
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Well, and that's why we engage in this battle of ideas on a regular basis, because ideas are so powerful. America was founded on this idea, and that had never, ever happened before in the history of mankind. And that idea that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, it's a pretty amazing thing where everyday people can thrive and flourish. Moving over to Bozen Law. If something has happened, an injury of some sort, it would be very important for people to reach out to Bozen Law as soon as possible. And so what is that phone number for people to reach you?
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And thank you, John Bozen. Have a very blessed Independence Day. We will talk with you next week.
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Back at you, Kim. Keep your voice loud.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station. And we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we have prerecorded these shows and have very special guests, and we're kicking it off with Dr. Alan Gelso. He's an American historian, and he serves as senior research scholar in the Council of the Humanities and director of the Initiative on Politics and Statesmanship in the James Madison Program at Princeton. And he was a professor at Gettysburg College as well. And he is an amazing author. His most recent book is on Robert E. Lee. He has a very important book on Gettysburg, but you can get all of his books online. You can go to his website, and that is, let me get it, it's allengelzo.com. So it's allengelzo.com. Dr. Gelso, before we went to break, we were talking about the book Gettysburg and that you were there. that are going out onto the battlefield. And I've been to Gettysburg once, and it was too fast because I really would like to spend time there. But we actually ended up – I was with my daughter. She was moving from New York to Kansas City. And so we were driving from New York to Kansas City, obviously, and we stopped in Gettysburg, and it was during the summer. And we ended up at a farm-to-table event, and there were probably – I bet there were at least 30 people at this long table there at Gettysburg. And the home was an old... I think it was an old church. It was now a home. And there was actually a pew that they had there that had blood on it from when they were bringing in soldiers to operate on them. I guess it was a hospital. I think it was a church that became a hospital. And I kind of stood there and I'm like, this is... This is something that I'm experiencing. I couldn't quite put my hand on it, Dr. Gelso.
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Well, during the battle, Almost every building in Gettysburg was liable to be impressed as a hospital facility of some sort. This is a battle that involves something on the order of 180,000 people. I'm talking right now just about the soldiers. 180,000 people who are either in uniform or they're working for the armies as civilian teamsters and whatnot. All of them compressed into a square of not more than 20 miles. Gettysburg, up to this point, had been a town whose population amounted to about 2,500 people. Suddenly, almost overnight, you have this stupendous influx. And, of course, it's not only 180 or 190,000 human beings. It's all the horses that have to pull wagons and pull artillery. All of this now has to get compressed into this small space. And then, of course, the fighting itself begins. And the fighting is deadly. This is 19th century warfare, when everyone understood that casualty lists were going to be high. And they were. Generally speaking, we could probably say that at the Battle of Gettysburg, from both sides, something like 9,000 were killed. Maybe we can guess, and it is a guesstimate, because in the 19th century they didn't really have terribly accurate ways of totaling these things. Probably about 4,000 to 4,500 dead on each side after three days of fighting. Take that and multiply that by anywhere from three to five times, and then you start to get a sense of the wounded. Just take it as a whole, probably about a third of each army ended up as a casualty of some sort. Well, for the wounded, where do you put them? There are no easily available hospitals. There are no ready-made facilities. So what you have to do is you have to set things up wherever you can find shelter. That means you take over houses, you take over barns, you take over churches. You take over anything with a roof, and sometimes you take over things that don't even have a roof. And the medicine of the 19th century, this is long before they had any understanding of germs or infection. The ways of dealing with casualties, with wounds, we would regard as being almost barbaric. Because if someone is wounded, let's say, in the arms or the legs, the only really secure treatment for that is amputation. If someone is wounded in the chest or in the abdomen, for the most part, they have to be set aside. Because the wounds are going to be fatal. They're really going to be fatal from loss of blood, or they're going to be fatal over a longer and more painful period of several days just from infection. And that kind of situation is enough to make our jaws drop in horror at the prospect. And yet this is going on all through the town of Gettysburg. It has to be done quickly. It has to be done hurriedly. The amputations can't be done with, in many cases, anesthetic of any sort.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the amputations themselves are being done by doctors who are quite literally using saws. We would look at it and say, well, that's what a carpenter does to deal with wood. No, that is what doctors had to deal with in the middle of the 19th century in cases like the Battle of Gettysburg. So it's not just that one building, Kim. There are a number of places scattered all around the Gettysburg area that were impressed for use as hospitals. which have stains like that. I've been in one house on the battlefield, for instance, that you can readily be taken to one part of the floor, the bloodstains. Bloodstains from the amputations, from the bleeding of the wounds. Stains still there on the floorboards. And my experience has been that that can be repeated and pointed to in place after place, location after location in the Gettysburg area.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, Dr. Galzo, I have to ask this question with these amputations. I mean, the loss of blood would be so significant. What did they do to stop that?
SPEAKER 07 :
You tied the limbs off like a tourniquet, you sutured them up, and you hoped for the best. And sometimes your hope was rewarded, and sometimes it wasn't. The way that death stalked these armies occurs often. in a proportion that we would find simply unimaginable today. But yet in the 19th century, such was the nature of medicine and medical practice. They simply didn't have any other way of dealing with these things.
SPEAKER 14 :
Goodness. It takes my breath away as I think about that. Okay, I've got the next question. And this last May, it was the first time that I'd made it to Virginia, to Monticello in Montpelier. And... You said that ultimately the war came down to slavery, and Lee's army was the Army of Northern Virginia. How is it? So we have Thomas Jefferson, who writes these beautiful words in the Declaration that all men are created equal. And that can't match up with slavery. So how did this, that Virginia is now at war regarding slavery? Because if all men are created equal, you can't have slavery. How would you address that?
SPEAKER 07 :
You address it by understanding that human nature follows ideals, but it also follows self-interest. And these two voices are often in competition with each other. It's almost like the good angel and the bad angel on your shoulder whispering in your ear. The ideal was the one captured by Jefferson in his words in the Declaration of Independence. And they are great ideals. And they are true. But self-interest said, owning slaves is what makes us money. Slave labor is cheap. You don't have to pay wages to slaves. And you can work them for as long as you like and in as many ways as you like. Slaves never go on strike. There's no union for slaves. So self-interest enters into it. And when self-interest collides with ideals, two things will happen. The ideals will win, and people will walk away from something like slavery. That's what we hope will happen, and indeed it did in many places in America from the Revolution to the Civil War. But in many other places, people made the other choice. They made the choice of averting their eyes. They made the choice of denial. And sometimes that choice took the form of saying, well, these people who were enslaving, they're not really people like us. Despite the fact that they're born and they die, they get sick, they get healthy, they have children, they have two arms, they have two legs, they have a head, they have eyes, they have a nose, they're human. But yet you look at them and you say, well, no, no, they're not really human, at least not human like us. And therefore, it's legitimate for us to enslave them. That becomes the excuse that people invent. And isn't this always the way human beings do things? When we decide we want to dispose of someone we find inconvenient, whether it's Jews in Germany, whether it's populations that are not wanted by larger populations, what's the first step towards genocide, dehumanization? Convince yourself, and convince others, that these people whom you plan to do something evil to really, really don't deserve anything more than what they're being given because they're not really, again, like us. And when you start to think in those terms, that is when people start to give themselves permission to do all kinds of horrible things to each other. So there are two paths. There's the paths of the ideal, and the ideal is the one Jefferson captures in his words. But then there's the other path of self-interest, which Jefferson, alas, captures in his behavior. and which Southerners, despite their allegiance to a nation founded on that proposition that all men are created equal, nevertheless self-interest persuaded them that they could invent a fantasy that would allow them to get away with the exact opposite of what the principles in the Declaration described.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I think what we'll do is we'll go to break because I want to talk about groups. Because I see in 2023 America, if you can, as you say, define a person as not like us, and you start to put into groupthink instead of the individual, I think that's where we get into a lot of trouble where people, humans, can inflict a lot of harm on other humans. I'm talking with Dr. Alan Gelso. And a couple of things I wanted to mention. First of all, Hooters Restaurants is a sponsor of the show. It's a really important story how I got to know them. And that is the story of freedom and free markets and capitalism. And PBIs, I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, they were trying to take away the freedom of people to be entrepreneurs. It's a really important story. You can find that at my website. But Hooters Restaurants has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And they have great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for dinner. And I also wanted to mention A Climate Conversation, which is a documentary that I'm involved in. It is the brainchild of Walt Johnson. He's a geophysicist, a good friend. He and his wife are friends of mine. And it was on his heart to create a documentary to have just a real conversation about this whole climate issue out there. And you can find more information and see the movie at aclimateconversation.com. And it is just asking questions in the Socratic method about this particular issue. We get to do all this because of great sponsors.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. We have prerecorded these shows and I'm really pleased to have on the line with me Dr. Alan Gelso, who teaches at Princeton University. And before we get back into the conversation, I wanted to mention the Center for American Values. It is located right here in Pueblo, Colorado. Pueblo is known as a home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up in Pueblo, Colorado. And so the center... It was founded by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix and Brad Padula, who's a award-winning documentary maker. And they realized that we need to do two things, honor our Medal of Honor recipients, and then also instill in ourselves and teach our children these values of America of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So they're putting together some great educational programs as well. You can get more information by going to the Center for American Values, and that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. I'm talking with Dr. Alan Gelso, and you can find his books at alangelso.com. That's A-L-L-E-N-G-U-E-L-Z-O.com. And you are working on a new book, correct, Dr. Gelso? Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, in fact, I'm working on several of them simultaneously, which I suppose represents a very bad habit on my part. I write books. Maybe I should apologize for it. Maybe I should be looking for a 12-step process. Do you think I can get over this?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't think so. The important thing is that you finish them, and you have a record of doing that. And so what is your most recent books? What are you writing on?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I will have coming out in February a new book on Lincoln entitled Our Ancient Faith, Lincoln, Democracy, and the American Experiment. The title is drawn from a speech Lincoln gave in Peoria, Illinois, in October of 1854, where he talks about democracy as our ancient faith. He talks about the Declaration of Independence. capturing that ancient faith. So the book is really about what Lincoln had to say on the subject of democracy in its various aspects, like elections, like majority rule, like toleration, like natural law and morality, and the role that all of these play in the making and perpetuation of democracy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Fascinating. Wow. And so 1854, is that early in his political career? He'd been in politics for a few years? When was that exactly?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, he'd been in politics for 20 years before that. And it hadn't turned out all that particularly well for him either, because he gets into the state legislature in 1834, and he has four very fulfilling terms in the state legislature. But then he, in the 1840s, runs for the United States House of Representatives. He gets elected. But his term in office is a very disappointing one. He is a member of the Puig Party. That means, first of all, he's in the minority. But secondly, it means he puts himself in opposition to President James Polk, who at that point was conducting the war in Mexico. And Lincoln has to stand up and criticize Polk, which means that brings out on his head a lot of criticism for not adequately supporting the Mexican war. And he doesn't run for re-election. And he goes home to Illinois. And as he said in an autobiographical sketch that he wrote, he really had given up on politics. He didn't really see much of a future for him after this in politics. And then suddenly in 1854, he gets back on the stage. It's like Abraham Lincoln 2.0. And the reason he does it is because in 1854, Congress passed the so-called Kansas-Nebraska Act, which, for the first time in Lincoln's political life, made possible the introduction of legalized slavery into the Western Territories. And he looked at that and said, if that's going to be a possibility in the Western Territories, then that means eventually slavery is going to take over the whole country, including his own home state of Illinois, which at that point was a free state. There was no slavery in Illinois. And this is what propels Lincoln back into the political forefront. He gives the great speech at Peoria in October of 1854, and he talks about our ancient faith. And from that point, Kim, he follows a trajectory upwards which will, six years later, lead him to election as the 16th president of the United States.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. Remarkable. And the fact that he grew up in basically a cabin and read by candlelight, but he read important books. At the end of my show, I say, read great books. We have choices to make with what we do each day, each hour, each minute. We have choices. That's a beautiful thing about living in America, that we're free to make those choices. But we need to make choices now. I think that propel us to be our best selves. And the fact that he was just an avid reader. I run into people all the time and as avid readers of great books, I love conversations with them, Dr. Geldo.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you would love a conversation with Lincoln then, because this was a man who, all right, on the one hand, he has next to nothing in the way of what you could call formal education. He once estimated that he went to school probably when he added it all up to not more than a year's worth of basic education. And yet he has this voracious appetite for reading and for learning. And he said his best friend would be the person who would lend him a book. And he read tremendously. Years later, his law partner, William Henry Herndon, actually made up a list of books that Lincoln kept in his law office. You go down that list, Kim, and these are all the major writers of the 19th century. We're talking here not just easy marquee names. We're talking about the authors of books on political economy, of books on philosophy. And to a series of volumes that came out as an annual on new horizons in science in the 1850s. And he ate these things up. There was no subject on which he would not show a curiosity. Someone at one point challenged him. They said, well, we want to describe you in a political biography as someone who has read geometry. And Lincoln's response was, well, I haven't actually read all that much, so let me go up and get the book, and then I will read it. So all you had to do was challenge him. And if there was a book that people were reading or a book that he thought would be important and would expand his horizons, he would not only read it, but he would master the book because he had a terrific memory. Not perhaps quite what we'd call a photographic memory, but something very close to it. He would read things over once, twice, maybe three times. He'd have them. He could quote them. He could quote huge stretches of Shakespeare, of other English poets of the 18th century. And people were astonished at that because they would think, well, this man didn't really have much in the way of education. He never went to college. Where did he learn all this? Well, he learned it on his own hook. And as I say, people would be amazed when, given a moment, he would simply launch into a long recitation from Shakespeare.
SPEAKER 14 :
My next question is, how did he learn to read? Because out here in Colorado, we just recently had an election, and I had a number of school board candidates on the show. And some of the percentages they were telling me of kids that were proficient in reading was like 30% of the kids are proficient in reading. That means that 70% are not. And we're spending big bucks on this. I said, I want my money back. Every child... should be able to read. So how did he learn to read with no formal education?
SPEAKER 07 :
He probably was taught at home. Because on the other side of the Appalachians, when he was growing up on the western side of the Appalachians, which in those days, that was what people called the West. When we talk about the West today, we're usually talking about, well, Pueblo, Colorado. But back in Lincoln's day, the West was Kentucky. The West was Illinois. Growing up, there were no public school systems at all. So people learned, if they were going to learn anything, they were going to learn at home. And their parents were going to teach them how to read. And the neighborhood was going to afford them exposure to books. And it was going to happen in that fashion because it wasn't until much later in Lincoln's life that you begin to see the organization of public education in the states on the western side of the Appalachians. For Lincoln, it all has to begin at home. It has to begin at his mother's knee. And starting from there, he moves ever relentlessly upwards in his mastery of books. And he has a very healthy respect for education and for reading, and he advises people. Everything that we know in the world can be understood by reading. Reading is what unlocks all the riches of the world. That, for him, was a rule he lived by.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and I really think that, I mean, we have so much that is thrown at us in the society now. And again, we need to make choices with what we do. And certainly reading for leisure is great. But there's stuff out there now, Dr. Gelso, that is just junk. How would you address that with your students?
SPEAKER 07 :
By telling them that there is such a thing as junk in print. And actually, there is a great deal more of that junk on screens. And my advice to them, I can't say that everyone takes it, but my advice to them would be, find the books. Not the screens. Find the books. Because the books are what open up the world to you. Someone who is looking at something on a screen is entirely passive. They can be nothing more than what is on the screen. A book, a book explodes the mind. A book gives you access to realities that you can't touch. It gives you alternative universes you can inhabit. A book will move you to do things that a screen can never even come close to doing. So a book, well, Emily Dickinson, a contemporary of Lincoln's, once wrote a poem about how a book was like a frigate that could take you all around the world, over lands, overseas. And I haven't myself found anything to fault with. With that opinion, even though I'm a century and a half beyond both Dickinson and Lincoln, for me, books were what opened up the world. Reading was what opened up all kinds of opportunities, all kinds of vistas. Reading is, in some respects, the ultimate subversive activity. Because what else do tyrants want to do, first off? They want to control what people read. They want to control their media. They want to control their books. They want to burn books if they don't particularly like them. Reading... Reading turns people's minds to questioning. That's why in Orwell's 1984, it's books which have to go down the memory hole because books are dangerous. I remember the publication in the 1970s of Alexander Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago. And when the volumes of it came out one by one in English, I would buy them. I was a college student then. And I would buy them. I would take them home. I would set myself up. Almost felt like I should put on a jacket and tie to read them. But you read them, and suddenly the whole fictitious world that had been created by the Soviets and the Soviet Union. All of that fell to pieces. I remember there was a comment that was made by Bernard-André Lévy, the French philosopher, a political philosopher, in which he said, Solzhenitsyn simply spoke and the scales fell from our eyes. And he was talking about reading Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago. More even than weapons of war, bombs, economic strategies, it was Solzhenitsyn's book that spelled the end of the Soviet Union. And reading that For me, that was a liberating experience. And reading has always been a liberating experience, as it was for Lincoln. He once described it in these terms. He was on his inaugural tour from Illinois to Washington. He stopped in Trenton, New Jersey, to speak to the New Jersey Senate. And being there in Trenton, he said, my mind is often revolved back. to the scene of the Battle of Trenton and the Revolution. And I've often asked myself, what those soldiers in the Revolution, what were they really fighting for? Was it just separation from the mother country? No, they were fighting for something more. They were fighting for an idea, for a principle. And it's an idea and a principle which is common to everyone around the world. And he said, how did I learn about this? I learned about this because as a schoolboy, I read a biography of Washington describing the Battle of Trenton. Now picture this, Kim. Here is a boy way out in Kentucky or Indiana when he's reading this. Here's a boy reading about the Battle of Trenton. And that boy, years later, as president of the United States, is drawing a bright line from a book that he read as a boy to the principles that he would give his life defending as president of the United States. If that doesn't illustrate the importance of reading, I have a hard time imagining what would.
SPEAKER 14 :
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I did want to mention Janssen Photography. Great entrepreneurs, Glenn and Mary Janssen, have been in business for a long time creating memories for people. whether or not it is portraits of families or of children, portraits of your senior student, or if you need that great photo for your business or political career, Jansen Photography is the place to go. That website is Jansen, J-A-N-S-S-E-N, photography.com. We've prerecorded the shows for this week with very special guests. I love it because then we have extra time. And we're talking with Brad Miller, who is my instructor at IPAC-EDU.org on a great course, Literature as Resistance. Ultimately, how to resist totalitarianism is the bottom line on that. And it's not too late to sign up. And so you can do that at IPAC-EDU.org. It's super reasonable, and it is so great. It really gets, just like this interview, getting your brain working. And so that is so, so important. Brad Miller, this course is fascinating. And the stand that you took... as being in the Army as a colonel and actually resigning right before retirement is such an amazing story. And it's a story that needs to be heard. And how can people find out more about you?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, thanks for asking that, Kim. So, the two easiest places to find me are at my Substack, which is just my name, bradmiller10.substack.com. So, again, that's bradmiller10.substack.com. And also, I'm on YouTube, you know, until they kick me off, which may happen at some point. But if you just go to YouTube and you search bradmiller10.substack, The videos that I've started making as well will come. Those will come up. So in either place, it's BradMiller10, and it should come up on YouTube and Substack.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, and again, highly recommend that you check that out, and would love to have you join us in our course as well. We've been talking about, well, we went through the course offerings, the books that we're reading, and the Hegelian dialectic, which basically can create a problem, and then there's the reaction to the problem, and then the solution can many times be already determined, and how that's relating to the Delphi technique. I've learned a lot, so I'm just trying to step back and be a person hearing this for the first time. This is the last segment on this. How do you want to unpack this so that people can understand it just as a little simpler as they're thinking about it?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, so what I would say is that whether it's with the dialectic or the Delphi technique, both of these are legitimate in their own way. It's just that when networks of powerful people have decided to use either the dialectic view or the use of the Delphi technique to manipulate people, that's, of course, when it becomes problematic. So for us, what that means is important for us to do is realize when our mode of thinking and therefore our actions change. is being constrained to a very narrow set of viewpoints or a very narrow set of acceptable actions, that's when we may have to ask ourselves, what kind of techniques are being used to manipulate my opinions and or my actions? And then how can I respond to be able to break out of this? So, for example, we were speaking about how the Delphi technique can be used a lot of times in these different types of meetings where some sort of, let's say, some sort of city planning project has already been decided upon. However, the opinions of the public are solicited, and yet when you show up and you're engaging in these discussions, you feel like you're not being heard or you feel like your opinion is only acceptable as long as it's within a narrow set of topics that you're allowed to address.
SPEAKER 14 :
So I have an example that I was thinking when I was on city council. We had a little neighborhood library that the people in my community, we loved. People walked to it. Kids walked to it. But the library district and the city planners and the politicians wanted to have a big, big library that more people would – we'd have to drive to it. And, of course, there's all the different arguments around driving, walking. There's all that out there. But I suggested that perhaps we keep this library for this community and then have the other as well. But they would have none of that. And so they did a listening tour. They solicited from people. And what was amazing is down at the library, our community library, they put up a poster and said, what would you suggest that this building be used for? Because the city said they were going to purchase it from the library district. And what did you want it to be? And on that piece of paper, the number one answer was keep it as a library. But in the report given to us by staff, which was about 50-some pages long, that was not noted until like on page 45 or something like that. So as I was going through the packet, I'm like, oh, people want to keep this. So I asked that question of staff when they made the presentation, and they said, oh, well, that was not an option. I thought, oh, isn't that interesting? Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right, yeah, imagine that. And the way in which a lot of that is done, so when you look at the way in which the Delphi technique is used, perhaps legitimately, as a decision-making or forecasting tool in the corporate world, the way in which it's done is A group of experts are fed different questions to which they respond anonymously. And that's so that they don't bias each other or that one person's opinion because of their position within the company is not necessarily ranked above the opinions of others. So there may be some legitimate reasons to do that in the corporate world when it's used in a real way. But a lot of times in this type of industry, of situation a lot of times these questions are fed via these surveys and you answer again anonymously and you may be picking um a response that a lot of other people are picking as well and it may be the most popular response but then they will lead you to believe that your response which may have been the most popular was not the most popular or was an outlier opinion that's what they may lead you to believe again because of the anonymous nature in which the questions are asked and the responses are noted so there are a lot of these different types of techniques that they can do If you have an undesirable opinion, they can kind of corral you in the direction that they want you to go while allowing you to believe that your input is valued.
SPEAKER 14 :
Brad Miller, this is so antithetical to the way our country is supposed to work, though. I mean, we got to our declaration, our Constitution, because of real debate. People really kicking tires on the ideas and real debate and with a real, I think, a virtuous goal in mind as well. And so this whole thing being used in government, I think it's antithetical to our American idea.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I think you're exactly right. The reason that we debate, even when debates get heated, is because whichever side you may find yourself on, or even if you don't agree with either side in a particular debate, by debating, we expect... better position to emerge. In fact, that would actually be a completely legitimate use of the dialectic because the dialectic can be used legitimately in a debate or in a courtroom trial where you have two sides that are in opposition to one another. And then through the interplay of those two oppositional sides, the hope is that what emerges, what is the synthesis that emerges? Well, it's the truth. So debate can absolutely be used. And when you engage in debate, When you're arguing against someone else's position, you are sharpening each other's understanding, regardless of which position you may hold. So debates are completely legitimate. And whenever you feel like legitimate debate is not being held, you have to ask yourself if you believe that your opinions are being manipulated or if you believe that your thoughts are being shaped in a previously contrived direction.
SPEAKER 14 :
OK, fascinating. We've got probably about four minutes left and I know it's not really enough time, but we've gone through the whole reaction to covid. And now we're looking at that, hopefully in the rear view mirror. But what do you think we learned as a country? I mean, I'm seeing people that that, you know, kind of bought into the whole covid thing that first time. But now they're like, no, no, no, no. So I think a lot of people are waking up. What do you think, Brad?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think yes and no. I think some people have woken up and they are not going to go back to sleep. And then I think, sadly, other people have woken up and they're already starting to fall back asleep. And I would urge people, if COVID was what kind of pushed you to wake up, be in that first group. When you wake up now, don't fall back asleep and start making other connections, because you've got to ask yourself, the government that is powerful enough to foist COVID and the reaction to COVID upon us, which very much followed the problem-reaction-solution model, They are power. This is not a one and done thing. They are going to continue to try and manipulate us in the moving directions they want society to go. And we've got to be awake to it. And we have to understand the tools and the techniques they use in order to manipulate us.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, that's why your voice is so important. And again, where can people find you, Brad Miller?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. So again, you can find me at my Substack, which again is bradmiller10.substack.com. And then you can also find me on my YouTube. If you just go to YouTube and search bradmiller10, then my videos will come up. And I write quite a bit, just my thoughts about anything and everything. And the same with the videos I've started to make as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
And again, you're instructing this great course at IPAC-EDU.org, where we're going through all of this dystopian literature. It's a course that's going to end up about 21 different meetings. And we're in, gosh, what, number seven, probably close? Seven? Are we that far? That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Go ahead. I was just going to say, yeah, the classes are held on Thursday nights via Zoom. But if you missed class or if you're just joining in now, you can always catch up on the previous recordings.
SPEAKER 14 :
And absolutely. And we must remain vigilant and sharpen our brains and understand what's going on. And Brad Miller is certainly doing that for many of us. And we'd love to have you all join us. So, Brad Miller, I wish you a very happy Thanksgiving. I thank you for joining us for this very important interview. And we'll have more conversations.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thank you so much. I appreciate being on, Kim, and happy Thanksgiving to you as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
And my friends, these are such important conversations. And our quote for the end of the show is from JFK, talking about gratitude. He said, as we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, if honestly and authentically strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 12 :
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Join Bill Gunderson and Barry Kite as they analyze the dynamic shifts in global and domestic markets on this informative episode of Best Stocks Now. The episode navigates through President Trump's strenuous trade relations and tariffs, Elon Musk's recent controversies, and their ramifications on stocks like Tesla and other major enterprises. Gunderson, with his wealth of experience, lends his thoughts on the state of the global economy, including the effect of AI on industries and the new strategies companies are employing to adapt. The episode also delves into the competitive world of stock recommendations, comparing insights from firms like Bank of America and Wedbush on growth stocks and sound investment opportunities. Bill shares his thoughts on Hasbro's innovative approach to gaming, amidst fluctuating market conditions. Packed with valuable segments, this episode provides listeners with strategic foresight and practical advice to harness potential in the ever-volatile market.
SPEAKER 01 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome to the July 1st. Welcome to July. This is the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson. President of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we have a mixed market here so far today on this first day of the third quarter of 2025. We've got the Dow up 112 points. I'll have to take a look and see what's doing it. Probably a few stocks. It's up a quarter of a percent, but the NASDAQ is down 64 after hitting a new all-time high yesterday. We'll have to look and see what's doing that. That's got to be a few big tech stocks. I saw the nuclear stocks were down a little bit today. The S&P 500 is down 9 after hitting a new all-time high yesterday. It's at 6,196. The small caps are down a quarter of a percent. They did not have a good first half of the year at all. And they continue to be a poor place to be invested, small cap stocks. And they have been for quite some time. which is unusual. We've got the 10-year down a couple of basis points. We're at 4.22, and with the rates down at that level, we're seeing that higher multiple in the market, although it's a little bit stretched right here. Gold is having a good day. Gold is up 1.75%. It's at $33.66. And Bitcoin is down $1,245 to $106.452. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we are off to the races here to begin a new half. The halftime show is over. It was brief. It was overnight. And here we are back again. We're going to get the day off on Friday. July the 4th. Happy 4th. Happy July the 1st. Two more days and we get a three-day weekend. And we do have a mixed market to start the second half of 2024. We also have a very expensive market, which I talked about at length yesterday. At the same time, you're seeing a little bit of a melt-up, and I personally think that a lot of these guys missed the big run after that March 8th, March 9th low, and now it's like Johnny-come-lately getting into the market, not wanting to miss out, even though the valuations are extremely stretched here. The S&P 500, top 6,200. For the first time yesterday, and the NASDAQ seizes all-time high as trade deals progress. They are progressing. There's some hardcore tactics going on. Canada, of course, with the digital tax. Japan. President Trump wants them to buy more of our rice. They do have a rice shortage, believe it or not, in Japan. And, you know, when I flew into Sacramento, we're growing a lot of rice here in the U.S., especially in that California Delta area where there's an abundance of water. And it's premium rice. It's a very good quality rice. So, yeah, I'd like to see them buy more rice, too, from the U.S.
SPEAKER 07 :
We've got the Carolina gold down here.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I don't know if we still grow it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't know if we really do much anymore either, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
I ran up the Cooper River one day, and I ran into an old rice field, almost got my propeller stuck, my outdrive stuck there. I was watching my – it's a little sketchy as you get up close to the dam up there for Lake Marion. Those are old rice fields up in there. They're submerged now, but not submerged by much, as I found out. You've got to stay within that traffic lane or you're going to get in trouble.
SPEAKER 07 :
Lots of alligators in that traffic lane by that dam up there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I'm glad I didn't get out to try to push the boat off of the reef I was on.
SPEAKER 07 :
There's one spot up there that I've seen on a video before, and it looked like a bunch of piranhas, but a bunch of alligators.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm not going up there anymore. That's my last trip with a one-legged bill. U.S. President Donald Trump ramped up trade pressure on Japan with terror threats targeting rice and automobiles. And, of course, They want to sell more of their autos, and we want to sell more of our autos. You know, I did get a little color. I didn't know this, that somewhere in that China trade deal, I was reading this in a report by Hasbro. He did carve out an exception for toys. and hobbies to 10 percent you know china's what at a 30 30 percent tariff right and somewhere in there was a carve out because i noticed that you know model train stuff never really jumped 30 percent like it was expected to do but he did carve out a 10 percent and hasbro is very happy about that i guess they've got a big hit on their hands uh we'll get to that in a little bit But that does help because that would have been a terrible blow to the hobby, toy, you know, that kind of stuff that we really don't want to build here in the U.S. Trump and Musk are at it again as Trump questions the level of subsidies of Elon Musk companies. Elon Musk's report was horrible today, just absolutely horrible. I was expecting that. His European sales are dropping off a cliff. And, you know, look, I mean, he's got a lot of pushback for his involvement in Doge. It didn't go well. He kind of made both sides mad. In the end, Trump is kind of mad, and I don't know if the MAGA people are mad at Elon Musk. And those that are on the left-hand side of the aisle are mad at Elon Musk over getting involved at all in all of that. So he kind of hurt his brand quite a bit. Luckily, he's got a lot of other irons in the fire. He raised billions of dollars in his AIX startup, XAI, I guess it's called, which you may fold into the company formerly known as Twitter, called X. So he's doing just fine. But Tesla sales are not. The Chinese are really hurting, not only the fallout from being involved in Doge, but the Chinese cars. Their sales and their growth is way up in Europe. While his is way down. Trump and Paramount in advance talks to settle the 60 Minutes lawsuit. Well, you know, 60 Minutes doctored the interview with Kamala Harris because some of her answers were so bad. They had to edit the answers out. And he didn't think that was fair. And he filed a $10 billion suit. He was seeking $10. He lowered it from $20 billion. He wants $10 billion. But it's gone far enough to where they're going to reach some kind of a settlement. There's definitely enough there. Also, it... caused a huge uproar at CBS where he had the abrupt exit of the executive producer. Yeah, I mean, like Dan Rather many years ago with the George Bush Jr., he reported some wrong information, and it cost him his job. He'd been there for many, many years. And CBS also lost their CEO, Wendy McMahon, who was there for a long, long time. Musk is also threatening to start another party. Not a party like, you know, where you have wine, music, and this kind of thing. No, a third party called the American Party. We pretty much have a two-party system. I can't see that changing. And I don't think Elon Musk has enough of a following. But that's his threat because he's not happy with the big bill, the big bad bill, the big bad beautiful bill, however you want to look at it. And Silicon Valley has got a little bit of grief over it. They want a few changes and a few amendments. And that thing is kind of hung up right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
They got a deadline to get it done. They all are trying to get to vacation.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, they'd like to get it done. And I've listened to a few of them on both sides. On the one side, they're saying this is the most expensive bill ever put forward. Well, you know what? That's not exactly. Over 10 years, adding $3 trillion, but not taking into account the growth. and not taking into account the collection of the tariffs. And talk about the kettle calling the pot black. It was Schumer who said, this is the most expensive bill. You know, some of these pork bills by both sides over the last many years, at least there's not a bunch of this pork. packed into this sausage here. Tesla's Europe slump deepens. Sweden and Denmark registrations fall over 60%. Those are registrations of new Tesla cars down 60% year over year. That's a heck of a hit. And right now, Tesla's stock is taking a hit. Last I looked, it was down 7%. Now it's down 4.2%. So there's some buying coming in. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, while Musk deliveries or actually registrations of Tesla fell by 60% in a couple of countries, Sweden and Denmark, Lee Auto, China, LI, their sales were up 20, or no, not Lee, it was the other one, NIO. NIO was up 25%. five percent year over year so they're gaining market share and i gotta believe it's coming from tesla you know china they're putting out a lot of electric cars so i had one guy write to me there he says they're all going to a vacant lot in one of the provinces there in china
SPEAKER 07 :
I've seen that. I saw stuff about that, I don't know, a couple of years ago, a year and a half ago. But yeah, I mean, almost like it was kind of how they built those ghost cities, right? I've heard them building cars off the line and just putting them out in the field. I don't know if a lot of that's been... necessarily confirmed, but I've certainly seen some pictures and we did have someone send that in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, China's been known to do some funny stuff. The coffee company Luckin Coffee was just making up the numbers.
SPEAKER 07 :
They just opened it, by the way. They just opened their first store here in America, actually. I saw a news thing about it today.
SPEAKER 06 :
I thought you were going to say right here in Mount Pleasant.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know where they put it. It's a ghost store where they dump the coffee into the trash can every day. It looks like they've got a lot of customers. I don't know. You know, that's all I know is they report the numbers and the stock moves higher in a lot of cases, especially with that BYDDF, which recently split three for one. Now, you're wondering why the drone maker, AVAB, it's one of the biggest laggards today. Not that much. It's down 7%. They did a secondary offering. And that's the problem. Stocks break out. They hit new highs. Everybody wants some. And they floated. Get it while it's hot. And they floated more shares, which dilutes the current owners. But it just depends on what they do with the money, with the proceeds from those shares. If they can get a good return on On the investment that they make on the money that they take and float out there, it could be accretive over time and add to their earnings. So it's really up to the company. But any time a company does a secondary offering, for the most part, it's going to be a negative on the stock for a day or two. Let's see. Lee Auto's deliveries fell 24% year over year. They hit $111,000 for the quarter. That's pretty good. I mean, they're doing... 500 million cars a year. That's a lot of cars. Doge said to target SEC policies. That's one of the things that they're having some indigestion over in Silicon Valley. They want an easing up of the rules. You know, I was not a fan of the SPACs, the Special Acquisition Act. corporations, which made it real easy. You'd float a SPAC for $10. It was not even a business. It was just money sitting there looking to buy a business. I didn't like the whole idea myself. They even had a SPAC ETF. A few of the SPACs turned into spectacular investments, but most of them, a lot of them never found anything to buy and they just closed and liquidated. But they want deregulation from the SEC, and they even want to go into the SEC and change some of the rules, and the SEC is saying, wait a minute, you know. Doge, we're an independent agency, the SEC. We don't want to have anything to do with Doge setting our regulations on stocks. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Who knows? Maybe there needs to be a few things changed with the real IPO process. But the goal, the reasoning behind the actual normal IPO process is to just make sure that the company is worthy, number one, of investment a lot of times versus with SPACs you can kind of get – get funded faster with less paperwork to do it, which creates in certain instances the potential for more fraud or investors to get hurt a bit.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I'm against it. U.S. Supreme Court to hear the Enbridge pipeline. Well, you know what? We'll see. It's finally going to go to the Supreme Court. How long, how many years have they been fighting over that? Now, this is the one that takes, this is with the state of Michigan and Governor Whitmer. Enbridge wants the case heard by the federal court, arguing that the dispute deals with foreign relations between the U.S. and Canada. Michigan's Governor Whitmer ordered Line 5 shutdown in 2021, deeming it an environmental threat to the Great Lakes. So does she have the power to do that, to shut down international trade between two countries? Enbridge refused to comply, believing Whitmer exceeded her authority because federal jurisdiction should take precedence. Well, we'll get an update when we're there in about four weeks or so. in the Michigan-Detroit area. People have differing attitudes on Governor Whitmer there in Michigan. And, of course, when we go to Minnesota, there's differing opinions on walls, Governor Walls up there. But we'll see. I mean, it looks like it's going to end up in the Supreme Court. I would just think, I mean, I'm just using logic. I wouldn't think a governor has the power to shut down a pipeline that connects two countries. That, to me, seems to be a federal issue. All right, now here's your homework assignment, Barry. Play this game over the Fourth of July weekend with your kids. This is a massive hit. Is this the Hasbro one? Hasbro Magic. It's a card game. Okay, I just looked it up on Amazon. I've got a lot of grandkids. We play games on Sundays, a lot of different games. And I was looking this thing up on Amazon. The whole set. The Ultra set is $320. That's it, huh? For a card game?
SPEAKER 07 :
Does it come with Uno?
SPEAKER 06 :
This is all of the modules. The basic set is $164. It's based on Lord of the Rings. Tales of the Middle Earth. Then you have all these booster boxes. It's almost like baseball cards or Pokemon.
SPEAKER 07 :
It sounds like Pokemon, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Collect them all. You get 30 packs of magic cards. Now, this is the one Hasbro was saying, this is going to drive our growth for quite some time. And not only that, here's the Final Fantasy Commander Deck Bundle. It includes all four decks, $370, and there's a backlog for it. If you order it today on Prime, you get it July 17th. So this is a major hit. It's got coins. It's got cards. If any of you have played this, send me an email, bill at gundersoncapital.com. Let me know how it is. It doesn't sound like my cup of tea. I'm more of a strategy kind of guy, trivia and strategy. And look at this. It's got collectible dice. Big hit for Hasbro, which will drive 2026 revenue and beyond. And their tariff's only at 10%, so they're very happy right now. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
We got to get together sooner or later.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson. Let's just take a look here and see if the market – I think the big bad bill is probably a little hiccup. They're waiting to see if that gets resolved in the market. I saw comments from Ed Yardini, who does a lot what I do as far as the macro outlook, updating earnings every week, target prices. He says, like I would agree totally with what he says, we usually are in agreement with the work that we do. He says the bull market obviously is still intact, but he says that there is the risk of a melt-up. What's a melt-up? Well, I talked about that yesterday. A melt-up is a big move higher in the market despite very high valuations in the market. And that can be caused, I would say in this instance, by FOMO, fear of missing out, or fear of they were left behind. They got left behind and didn't believe. How many times did I say that, look, here's an article on CNBC that says this isn't real. This rally is the most hated rally. Investors are not buying it. That went on for months. And now that it's hitting new highs, oh, well, okay, maybe this is a real rally in the market and they're getting in now. So, you know, it's kind of hard to evaluate just how high that's momentum taking over in the market. And so that gets to be a little bit on the dangerous side, and you have to be on the vigilant side of the ledger. Things are picking up a little bit in China. I see that they're – what was it? They're – Their manufacturing index is doing pretty well, starting to pick up once again. And there was a big hiccup there, obviously. We saw it right here in our port in Charleston, Barry, when the boat sat there for several days without being unloaded. While things were being worked out between Washington and Beijing on where the tariffs would land, they couldn't unload the stuff. I hope it wasn't bananas or anything. They couldn't unload things out of those containers off the ship. Once they hit American shores, they were subject to the tariffs. But I will say this, it's definitely going to hurt China. One company after another is moving their diversifying away. And, you know, that's not just the tariffs. COVID exposed a lot of weaknesses in the supply chain where we were too dependent on goods. Pharmaceuticals would be a good example of things coming from China.
SPEAKER 07 :
We had that baby formula issue. Remember that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
That was something where, you know. Only basically one place was making it at the time, which is not good for a supply chain.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I see Hewlett Packard. I mean, they're going to spread it around from Asia to places like Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Mexico, other areas, diversify the supply chain. I think that's all good. But at the end of the day, China is kind of the loser in that. There's a new problem out there with AI. Okay, AI, this is a new term. I did not know this, but there's AI crawlers out there. And a crawler is gathering information, right, so that they can feed it into the AI system. It's going on like behind closed doors here. Cloudflare is now the first Internet infrastructure provider to block AI crawlers accessing content without permission. So a crawler could come in and follow my show and my newsletter for several weeks online. And then come up with your own show. You could never duplicate what we do. But anyways, and the newsletter. But it's happening like LA Times articles and writers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Reddit is actually fighting this because there's tons and tons of different discussions on Reddit. And you can use that data to... train some of these AI models. Number one, they don't want you to take their data. Number two, it's actually valuable to them to read it. It's like, if you're going to take it, at least let me sell it to you. Yeah, we want to be paid for it. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
But these crawlers have been scraping content without limits because they want the more content they have, the better the AI is because it goes out It kind of arrives at what the consensus of all the different, I mean, they're scraping recipe. It goes on and on and on. Cloudflare also noted a list of companies and organizations in support of a permission-based approach for AI crawling. which include Adweek, the Arena Group, the Associated Press, the Atlantic, BuzzFeed, Engineers, Ground Views, Half-Baked Newsletter, O'Reilly Media, Quora, and it goes on and on and on and on and on. It'll end up in the Supreme Court, I would think. But I would think that the creators of the content, I mean, it's a whole new world out there. Look at these poor artists. We used to stand in line to buy one song from the Beatles on a 45 record, right? And now you've got an all-you-can-eat buffet of all the music on Apple. uh for so much a month and it's all there it's subscription based now d wave quantum completes a 400 million dollar at the money offering there goes another one see that stock's had a little bit of a run up here uh and uh they they go to the well and they do a secondary offering Okay, I've been waiting for this all year long or for the last several weeks. The top picks from Bank of America for the second half of the year. Hey, look, you know what? You've got to go where you want to go. Do what you want to do. Okay, so here they are. Bank of America came out with a new list of its top ten ideas. Bank of America's Merrill Lynch, for the most part, for the third quarter on Tuesday. They have eight long ideas and two short ideas. Okay, Cisco. Cisco is probably the most owned stock in America. They had their day 20 years ago. They're still a decent company, but they're not a double-digit grower. Okay, their number two is Boeing. Yeah, you know, then Datadog. Fair Isaac, you know, this is a tough interest rate environment for Fair Isaac, which does FICO scores when you apply for credit. KeyBank, KeyCorp out of Chicago. Levi Strauss. Boy, I don't know about that. That's a growth industry anymore. Medtronic. Very sluggish growth. Warner Brothers Discovery. Oh, my gosh. That stock is so overloaded with debt and problems. So there's eight of their long picks on the long side. Write down those eight. Make your little portfolio. Do a paper trade. See how it does. Their two short ideas are ConAgra and Hims and Hers. Maybe we should buy those. Levi Strauss is one of their top picks for Q3. You know how old that company is? Levi Strauss? Is that really a growth industry?
SPEAKER 03 :
What, 1%, 2% a year or something like that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't understand it, but... Hey, you know what? It's a competitive marketplace, and guys like me and them, we have differences in our opinions, and the people will eventually go where they feel the most comfortable and where they think they can make the most money and be taken care of and this kind of thing, but... They're just not very imaginative at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
1853, by the way, is around the gold rush.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was their heyday, and today it's Bank of America's top pick at Bank of America. Anyways, over at Wedbush, which is much more current, Of all of the big firms out there, they're not exactly, I wouldn't consider them a big giant Wall Street firm. They had a car in the Indianapolis 500, but they certainly are more in line with the kind of companies we look at, the growth stocks of the day. Here's their top five picks, which basically have been their top five picks for a long time. Nvidia, no problem there. Meta, no problem there. Microsoft, Palantir, and Tesla. They are big, big fans of Tesla. One that I don't see in their top five, which they've been bullish on for umpteen years, is Apple. And Apple just, you know, doesn't have much going on in the way of new stuff right now. And if it's not on Wedbush's top five list anymore, it must really be hurting badly. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. I want to mention a few stocks here in the last segment of today's show. One that's on a roll is Embraer, the Brazilian manufacturer of aircraft. You know, one step below your big, they're more of the regional manufacturer. jets that you fly to some of the smaller markets. But, man, that thing's been on a roll. Scandinavian Airlines agreed to buy as many as 55 aircraft from Brazilian manufacturer Embraer as part of the airline's ongoing fleet renewal strategy. They're going to buy 45 E-195 E-2 jets, which is a narrow-body aircraft designed to seat as many as 146 passengers. That's a lot of people to cram into that thing there, Barry. I don't know if I like that myself. I like the big wide body. Get a little tight in there. That's a good stock.
SPEAKER 07 :
Don't bring any carry-on luggage because you're going to have to check it at the gate.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you've got the guy next to you. His elbow is in your ribs the whole way. Anyways, Embraer has been a great stock. We own it in the value, the relative value portfolio. which is off to a very good start. I'm really happy with some of the, you know, I've found a lot of bargains, and I still do. You know, several weeks ago, Chipotle pulled back. So you might look at it and say, well, on a value basis, I mean, Warren Buffett would just cry foul. looking at the P.E. and the price to sales and the price to book value and price to cash flow. But there's a concept that I believe in wholeheartedly, and that's relative value. You know, you could say, well, it's 80 degrees in Charleston today and humid. Yeah, but on a relative basis, that's a lot cooler than it has been. It's been 90, and we got a nice little... Okay, relative basis works with valuations also. If you've got Amazon, just for instance, which has been trading at 40, 45, 35 times earnings... over the past several years, and for whatever reason, tariff scare, regulatory scare, any number of things that could affect the stock temporarily and drives it well below, the same works in the market. The value of the market over time, the P.E. ratio has been around 20. We got down to 17 at one point in time, but on a relative basis right now, even 19 is cheap. 20 is cheap on a relative basis for the market right now in this environment that we're in. And, you know, on a relative basis, Embraer dropped down here recently on scare, on the tariff scares. Chipotle dropped down recently on various issues. And we swooped in and bought some. And now it's turning around and doing quite well. So I'm a big believer in this portfolio. I've put a lot of focus. It's replacing the dividend in growth. I don't like the fact of having my hands tied. of having to buy a stock that pays a dividend that limits your choices out there so i think this is a better substitute a better way to go in the environment that we're in and you know this dividend thing is played so heavily everybody all the dividend etfs out there right now Which makes it very difficult to find any kind of inefficiency in dividend. I noticed that, have you noticed that Seeking Alpha doesn't, that's not their top guys anymore, dividend paying stocks. They've died out because a lot of people were going in that, they were after the high dividend payers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, yeah, high dividend yields, right, chasing yield essentially.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I'd see those guys have just dropped off the leaderboard. I don't even see them anymore. And, you know, I was making a lot of noise about that, how that's a sucker bet. And those people were preying on suckers. And the headlines they were using were disgusting. You know, retire, buy your yacht with this high dividend stock. Almost that bad. It was bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Almost, yeah. Clip this coupon forever. That kind of thing. Those types of things.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's like the two people or two retirees holding hands on the beach because they invested in a prudential annuity, right? I mean, they're happy ever after. It's just like false advertising, in my opinion. But theirs was horrible. And it really gave me a distaste for what Seeking Alpha was doing there. But I've seen that those guys have kind of disappeared right now. And probably people have learned their lesson the hard way, unfortunately. And speaking of Amazon, did you know that they have more robots than humans in their warehouses? Amazon just deployed its one millionth robot. Well, they had a party for him. Hey, look, you're our one millionth robot. They had a nice lunch they ordered in for the robots. Gave them a gold watch, this kind of thing, at their fulfillment center in Japan. close to the number of humans working at its facilities as the e-commerce giant continues to expand the world's largest fleet of industrial mobile robots. 75% of the company's global deliveries are now assisted in some way by robotics. You wonder how you get that package the next day or two days later, and its fleet spans more than 300 facilities worldwide. The average number of workers per Amazon facility last year was 670, which is the lowest record in the past 16 years recorded in the past. Why? Because they're being replaced by robot. But their amount of packages per employee has gone up. So anyways... That's where these robotic factories are coming into play. All right, well, we are out of time. This is the second half. What challenges will the second half bring? I don't think we're going to get that. We were lucky in a way to get that big dip, which created that buying opportunity, but the big dip was no fun. Could we have another big dip in the second half? Yes, we could if something out there in the world... comes along that we weren't expecting and we do have you know kind of a hair trigger kind of market with the valuations that it's at but that doesn't mean you know i'm buying stuff almost every day i added to uh arista networks yesterday i added to a couple others yesterday there's always something out there if you're vigilant To set up an appointment with us, give us a call at 855-611-BEST to try the subscription out. Four-week trial of the whole enchilada, 855-611-BEST or GundersonCapital.com. That's GundersonCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hey there, Angie Austin here with The Good News, along with my good friend, Jim Stovall, author, speaker, movie maker, talking about his Winner's Wisdom column. And this week, the title is Respect Your Elders. Welcome, Jim.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, it is great to be with you, as always.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, so what are you teaching us this week about respecting our elders?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, here in our Western culture in America, we have a tendency to promote and celebrate everything that is youth-oriented. And young people are great for cutting-edge technology, enthusiasm, energy. That's great. But older people have wisdom, experience, and just that kind of perspective you cannot replace. And in Asia, they have a tendency to... to celebrate elders more than we do, and I think the combination is the best of both worlds. Through the Stovall Center for Entrepreneurship, I work with a lot of college kids who are getting their degrees in entrepreneurship, and they have great ideas and tremendous knowledge. but they're lacking wisdom. Wisdom is usually gained from making a mistake. You touch the hot stove, and now I've got it. I'm not touching the hot stove again. And that's the most basic form of wisdom. The higher and better form of wisdom is somebody tells you, Angie, don't touch that stove, and if you get it. And once we learn to take advice from people that have what we want, then we can have amazing lives. But one of my favorites, there's an African proverb that says, when an elder dies, a library burns to the ground. And we have a tendency to discount parents and grandparents and elderly people in our community, and they know so much and they have so much perspective and wisdom that we don't.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that some cultures really are brought up to, you know, revere their elders and, you know, really admire them and seek them out for, you know, advice and wisdom. And maybe not so much ours.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct. Correct. And I live here in Oklahoma. We have a lot of Native Americans here. And in that culture, you know, they traditionally look more to their elders and elders. And we, you know, unfortunately, some of us don't as much. And it's great to be reminded of, you know, all the things they know and all the things they have done. And I had a tremendous experience. I was writing a book about the 20th century, and I was telling my father. you know i'm looking for someone that lived in three centuries the 1800s the 19 and made it to 2000 he said is there something wrong with your great aunt lena and i said well no i never thought of her and well wow here was this woman who was born in 1897 and she lived till 2002 and i spent a couple days with her and you know she was 103 years old and and uh I was going to say she's as lucid as you and I, but probably way ahead of both of us. But her perspective was amazing. I mean, she remembered her parents reading in the newspaper when the Wright brothers flew. And she was a teenager when the Titanic sank. And just these amazing, amazing revelations. She came to Missouri in a covered wagon and sat and watched the Men walk on the moon in our life. And that's just a tremendous wealth of information. And unfortunately, so few people take advantage of it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. I mean, what an experience. Were there anything, any things that stood out besides what you just mentioned, just words of wisdom or things that had changed for her over the years or things she learned that she shared with you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, when I ask her, what are your fondest memories? What were the best days of your life? You know, they weren't, you know, the trip to Europe or her cruise she went on or all these things. She said those were nice. But it's, you know, afternoons with friends, sitting on my porch watching the leaves, reading a great book. And she said, so what I learned is I can have a great day any day I decide to.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I thought, you know, wow, we keep thinking that's external and we hope we're going to have a great day. And she redefined for me what a great day was and realized I can have one anytime I want.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, the Harvard study that you and I have spoken about, about, you know, having connections and, you know, what leads to true happiness. And it was about the big thing that we learned out of the book was and the study from Harvard over decades of time and people that they followed for decades. year after year after year, and families that they followed. It was relationships and connections. That's what really led to true happiness, not the yacht per se or, like you said, the trip or whatever. So I've made a point the last few weeks of reaching out to people that I really love. One person, he was an on-air talent at the station I worked at here in Denver, and And then he was let go by our station, and he said, you know, oh, I'm just not going to hang it up. I'm not going to do these gardening tips on TV anymore. And I said, well, go to other stations just because, you know, our boss doesn't, you know, you're not his cup of tea or he can't afford you or whatever. That doesn't mean, you know, other people can't. Well, it's been about 20 years since that happened. And he's still at the number one station in town. He's been there at that particular station since he left. And he helped me with my wedding and did my flowers and dedicated one of his books to me. But we haven't seen each other like in person for, I'd say, 10 years. And so we, you know, exchange funny things on Facebook and this and the other. And so I said, hey, you know, you're so popular on Facebook that Do you know about Instagram and how many people have followers on Instagram that have expertise like yours? But like, you know, you've run, you know, huge gardens. You've written so many books and you put these gardens together at your home every year that people follow when you have interns volunteer and come out and help you. You need to share that knowledge. It's like, would you like to come over and would you like to take some pictures and help me get started? I'm like, yes. So then I thought, well, let's just reach out to like some of my other really good friends, you know, my cousin that I haven't seen in six months or a year and my high school girlfriend that just ran. I just met with them over the weekend and we hadn't seen each other probably since just before or during COVID. So anyway, I said to them, you know, I part of the reason I planned this lunch with you guys is because I I've been talking on the air with my friend Jim Stovall and also reading the book about the Harvard study and happiness is really about connections. And so I've really been making the effort, Jim, because I'm not a really like get outside of my house and plan things kind of person. I'm perfectly happy to walk the few acres I have with my dogs and even not even walk around the neighborhood. I'm perfectly happy not to make a plan to like go to some big charity event or some big event or whatever. I'm not really like a big, huge social person. But when I do those things with people I love, it just is amazing. You know, I'm very funny, Jim. So like when I get together with my friends, we laugh a lot.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I can imagine. Yes, I can imagine. Yes, Angie is like a day at the circus. Yes, I get this.
SPEAKER 04 :
But those connections... Oh, and one thing my girlfriend said. So she's remarried. She had a horrible breakup. She moved to Ireland. She sold all of her things. She rented out her condo that she'd had for years. And then it ended up that the relationship, the marriage ended badly. Like badly. Probably as bad as it can end, Jim. So she's got to come back with none of her stuff. Because how do you ship that all back from, you know, Ireland like overnight? It's a big deal. And her place was rented out. And so we apparently had lunch. And apparently I said to her, she goes, you know, I'll never forget this, Angie. We met and you said, you know, you will have to forgive him someday for you. And she said, when you told me that, I said, there's no way I'm ever going to forgive him. And she said, here, you know. Well, these years later, I did, and it's been life-changing for me, and I have no animosity. I'm friends with his family. I take trips with his daughter. His daughter came to my wedding to her new husband, and she said, and we speak on the phone, and he apologized, and he said he could never forgive himself, and I said, I've forgiven you. I want you to be happy. So here, I'd shared this with her all these years ago, these connections that we talk about that lead to happiness, they really do, but you've got to make the effort.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, and there are people that... I have a birthday coming up later this summer. One of the things I have enjoyed for the last 27 years is I exchange birthday greetings every year with Tony Bennett and I met him years and years ago, well, 27 years ago, and I was doing an interview in New York, and he was taping a TV show, so I had to wait a while, long story short. He's at the Rainbow Room, and they said, you know, if he takes a break and has time, you can have the interview. So finally, after six or seven hours, he comes over and says, wow, I am so sorry, do you still want to do the interview? I said, it would be the greatest birthday present for me. He said, so me doing an interview with you is supposed to be my birthday present? I said, no, sir, it's my birthday today. He said, it's mine, too. And we realized we have the same birthday. So I will never forget. He had his whole orchestra there and Ralph Sharon, his conductor that plays the piano. And he said, Ralph, happy birthday to us in this key of D. And Tony Bennett sang happy birthday to us. And it was just so amazing. And we've exchanged those every year. But the wisdom he has, he'll be 97 this year. And the wisdom he has... I said, so you've done this show so many times. You've seen I've Left My Heart in San Francisco 10 million times. How do you keep that new? And he said, Jim, when I was just a kid, a teenager, before anybody had ever heard of Tony Bennett, I begged, borrowed, and stole enough to go get a back row seat to go see Al Jolson. And it changed my life to see Al Jolson. And every time before I walk on stage, I just tell myself, somebody's getting ready to hear Al Jolson tonight. And he said, so it may be my 10,000th time, but somebody's here. This is their first show. And so that's the kind of thing we get from our elders that you just can't get anywhere else, Angie.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I was reading in your column, too, about – and that's pretty cool. I mean, not many people get to exchange birthday greetings with Tony Bennett – I was reading in your article as we're talking about respecting our elders about the ultimate gift in the movie, which was so well received all those years back, your first of what, nine now. You said there was like a groundswell of investment advisors and estate planners. So explain how that fits into your honor your elders column.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, because of that movie, and that movie was about a grandfather that wants to pass on his wisdom to his spoiled grandson before he makes him an instant billionaire. So it's what it was about. Well, because of that, financial planners, estate planners, and families of extreme wealth have had me in for years. And I come to family reunions, and I talk to three or four generations of them. And one of the things I want to make sure they understand is you don't pass along your valuables until you've passed along your values. Giving a kid the kind of money we're talking about here is like giving a toddler a loaded gun. This is dangerous. So you have to protect them from that. But one of the things I want the kids to know is what did grandma and grandpa do to earn that money? And how did that happen? Because all you've seen is the wealth your whole life. And that's not your fault. We're not going to blame you for that. But I want you to understand where it came from and what grandma and grandpa did and sacrificed so that now, you know, you can sit here and have this. And it's not just you won the lottery. It's you have a responsibility. And what are we going to do with this? And so those are the kind of things we talk about is I want them to get the values in addition to just the valuables.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So say that again. Don't get caught up. Don't get one before they say it again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Don't ever give anybody your valuables, your money, your resources, your property. Don't ever leave anybody anything without them having your values, without them understanding where this came from and what I expect you to do with it. Okay. because some of these people, I mean, they're receiving life-changing money for millions and millions of dollars. And I want them to understand where it came from and what their grandparents' expectation of them is, that they'll have a good life, but they'll use it to make themselves better and make the world better around them and find a cause that matters. And what are you going to do with this?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you're so blessed, Jim, because you have taught me so much. So when I receive that inheritance, I rest assured that you... That was fun. So much wisdom. JimStoval.com. Oh, I love you, friend. You're the best. Be well.
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Broomfield is listening to the mighty 670. KLT, Denver.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey there, Angie Austin and Dr. Cheryl Lentz, the academic entrepreneur with the good news with Angie Austin and Dr. Cheryl Lentz today. Hey, Cheryl.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, Angie. So good to be here. I am thrilled that we get to finish up some of the stuff. This is awesome. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we talked about joy recently and good news. And now you said you didn't know if I'd want to talk about this business topic, but I find it very intriguing. Tell us what you've been doing. Tell us what you've been doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I found this book. I love going to library sales when they turn their inventory, right? And they're just kind of getting rid of books. You can pick up books for like a buck or two. Well, I found this book and it's called The Daily Drucker and it's called 366 Days of Insight and Motivation for Getting the Right Things Done. Now, Peter Drucker. as our audience probably is well aware of, is the father of modern management. He's no longer with us, but a lot of business schools are named after him. A lot of research is done. And I found this really intriguing for a book because it's written the same way we would have Christian devotionals, right? You know, 365 days of, you know, how to smile, how to do kindness, how to pay it forward, all those kinds of things. And now I see a business book with the same type of foundational structure. And you can just go in there and find today's date and going, what are the things that I should focus on in business for my team today? And I thought it's fascinating. So sometimes I'll go in here and read the topic of the day and I'll either share it with my business students or I'll share it with my team if I'm working on a project. And I just found it an interesting way to do that, that we normally wouldn't have because it's not necessarily a good news, but it is in a business way, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. So let's go over some of these and how you have instituted them or how maybe they give other examples of other people instituting them. I love it when they give an example of, you know, try this today and here's how I did it or you can tell us how you did. So kind of explain to us what some of these examples are when you go into the calendar.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So here's what it is for today. So we have a specific data in the calendar. I go on today's calendar and it says the great strength of e-commerce. Selling is no longer tied to production, but to distribution. And they're using examples from cars.com and amazon.com. And then at the end of it, it will say and ask a question is, is your business the equivalent of Amazon or the local bookstore? Determine how can you use e-commerce in your business? So they're trying to teach you something, a little tidbit, and then just saying, well, here's how you might be able to use it if your business is like that. And I like the little tidbits because from an instructional standpoint, I'm a business professor that teaches business classes. I have learned that if you do a little bit each day, it's better than the two-hour lecture series in there. I want them to take a little nugget, I want them to think about it. I want them to digest. And I want them to go use it. And this book is designed just like that of a, hey, let's break it down into more manageable, digestible pieces and how to eat the elephant. And so this is the piece we're going to eat today. And I think it's perfect.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. All right. Give us some other examples. I'm curious. I don't know if this is kind of interesting.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm just randomly opening in there. It says the center of a knowledge society. Education will become the center of the knowledge society and schooling in its key institutions. Okay. And so it's looking at making learning a lifelong habit. And I'm thinking, well, isn't that kind of, so it is more of a, not just a business thing, but creating business habits so that I would start. For example, I remember when I was a manager years ago and I had a team when I was in Nevada and, And I would go and just teach them a little something every day, right? I'd say, okay, here's a way we can do something a little bit more efficiently. And I'd give them a best practice. And I'd say, okay, guys, the thought of the day is this. And I would use relevant examples because I, as a professor, know that the whole idea, and we've known this since Knowles in 1953, is why does it care? Why do you care? It sounds a little bit like a used car salesman in there. What's going to get you to do something better for you today? But it's a tell me what's in it for me. Tell me why it's relevant. Tell me what I could benefit or benefit others. And this has just got a business twist. And I think sometimes we don't equate business with kindness. And Jim Stovall and Steve Farber and others will say, ah, love is just darn good business. And it happens in the boardroom and needs to happen more than just in a church or in a volunteer situation. So context is important.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love the idea, too, of knowledge. And I thought, you know, Mark Cuban recently was saying that if he were young, he would really get into AI. And, you know, artificial intelligence can do things like my son every day was coming up with a business proposal. And I'm like, oh, you could probably figure out the basics of that, you know, in AI and have that help you write it up because he was presenting something to his boss where he's an intern for AI. new business idea but I'm like oh that would definitely work like that and they were even talking to him about hey do you think you'd have time to help us institute this even though you're in college like he's like what you might set it up and run it and I'm like yeah and I'm he's like whoa and so that's actual practical experience that your son's going to be able to use on his resume to help this current company and to help build a foundation for future companies and I cannot believe I cannot believe what they're having him help them with. I mean, right now they're looking for new finance software. I mean, they're really letting him. It's amazing the opportunity. He's working with ARC, which I'm very close to here. They help people with cognitive deficits. They've got 500 differently abled ambassadors. I love the work that they do in Colorado. All right, DrCherylLentz.com. Stick around. This is something happening in Colorado as well, but could be instituted all over the country. and um in specific specifically though in denver we have some new regulations when it comes to energy and clean energy and this would really help um it's innovative it's a very unique topic and it's definitely good news joining us is elliot abel senior vice president of corporate clean energy solutions for pivot energy welcome elliot really excited about this today thank you for joining us angie thanks so much for having me glad to be here i'm glad to have you i read a little bit about you in the denver business journal i know you get the 40 under 40 and uh I know that you are very active in energy and have been for decades. This is such a cool idea. So kind of give us an overview of what Pivot does.
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Absolutely. So Pivot Energy, we're an experienced turnkey commercial renewable energy developer and owner-operator of projects. We've been a leader in developing solar projects since our founding in 2009, and we're headquartered here in Denver.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. So my understanding is that I love real estate. I've never gotten into corporate, but I'm super into real estate. And I love I'm always looking at it. And it's been the way like when I grew up very poor. And so it's kind of the way that I educated myself out of poverty and I lived in low income housing. But at the very first opportunity, I bought my first property, which I don't even know, to be honest with you, is on the oceanfront in Marina Del Rey because I worked for NBC in L.A. It was my first job. Yes. And I don't even know if I could buy it back right now. It did so well. But when it comes to corporate real estate, I know that during COVID, my husband, his company let go of a lot of their offices. And I know that Denver, that they are really down in terms of their rentals. So what you are doing with some of these office buildings is fascinating to me.
SPEAKER 08 :
that you're finding a way to make money off of them but also to um you know help mother earth per se and this involves green energy so can you explain how you're doing this absolutely and you mentioned it right i mean we saw corporate real estate vacancy rates uh in downtown denver reach over 35 percent in march of this year and that's this year and office That's this year, right? And office property values have declined between 10% and 25% from just two years ago. So the effect is real. We're still recovering from the pandemic in the real estate space. And what we're offering is really an opportunity for property owners to have an easy solution to generate revenue. long-term low risk revenue, increase the value of these properties, help recover some of these losses. And that's by leasing unused space. So think rooftops, parking lots to develop much needed solar and energy storage projects. So as demand for electricity increases and cities like here in Denver and across the country, this is a way to meet that need and also really help commercial property owners recover.
SPEAKER 04 :
So a commercial office building, even if it's being used, I mean, the rooftop space that you would need to generate solar power, that could be used anyway, right? I mean, it doesn't have to be an empty building or partially empty building. You can still rent out your roof or an empty parking lot. I mean, you're going to have more empty spaces if you aren't renting, if you know 35% of these buildings aren't rented anyway, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, the building can be completely full of tenants, which is great, fantastic situation to be in and still lease out the rooftop or still lease out a portion of the parking lot to earn additional rent to increase the value of property to help, you know, attract and retain great tenants to these properties. So it really is a solution for all kinds of property owners, regardless of the specific situation of their properties.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what properties would be a good fit for this particular pivot model?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, Pivot Energy is able to develop solar projects on lots of different kinds of commercial buildings. It could be retail, industrial, manufacturing offices. Really, as long as there's some flat, underutilized space, like a large rooftop or, like you mentioned, a parking lot, those are all good candidates for solar and battery energy storage projects.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, in terms of, you know, what Pivot's doing, I'm always interested, you know, all these years I've been in TV and radio news. I love to find out, like, where you got started in this. So, like, how Pivot came up with this, but how you also got into this area of expertise because it's a pretty – it's a niche. You know, I don't often meet people that are like, hey, I'd love to rent your rooftop and do some solar power. When I'm out in California and I see all these innovative things or I go by a wind farm or a huge field outside of Vegas filled with a whole solar power setup, I'm like, who did this? Where did you get this idea? I mean, it obviously costs a lot of money, too. So how did you and how did Pivot come up with all of this?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, Pivot Energy has been doing this for a while, has been a leading developer solar project since being founded in 2009. And personally, you know, my career in this renewable energy space starts around the same time, a few years earlier, actually. And it was about, you know, really trying to solve a problem, you know, solve the problem of how do we get the energy and electricity we need in a better, cleaner way. And I don't know, for me personally, and it's been this way for a long time, every time I, you know, fly into a city, I see all these white unused rooftops that are just the perfect canvas. They're the perfect canvas to be used to generate power where it's needed. So that's been a motivator for a long time for me personally.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it only makes sense. It seems like kind of a no-brainer. Like, why aren't we doing this? You know, I saw something the other day. It was some documentary on, you know, the way that you're supposed to farm that doesn't ruin the land, right? And I looked at my brother because it's like, oh, you've got to see this stock. So anyway, we're watching it, and I'm like, my brother's a genius. And so I'm like, why aren't other farmers doing this? Like, I saw the dude that was doing this, and he was like, you're – your bib overall wearing Kansas kind of looking dude, you know, with, you know, a little bit of dirt on his face, balding, you know, chubby. And I'm like, oh, he's like your average farmer, right? And he travels all over the world like you do talking about solar power. And he's trying to get people to farm correctly. And it's not just digging up the dirt and replanting every year. And I'm like, but it seems so much more cost effective. But some of these things that are no brainers, we just do it the old way because we're used to doing it. But the new way wouldn't be that difficult for somebody to lease their roof to you and be part of the new way. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. You're right, Angie. I think I think the biggest challenge is just getting the information out there. so that people are aware of it and they know where to find out more and to see if their property would be a good fit. That's been our experience. Once people learn about it, they're generally pretty excited about the opportunity and want to move forward. It's about learning that it's out there and it's an option.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And like this setup for like a person for like me, if I wanted to get into solar or whatever, that's different. They're just leasing to you and then you guys do the setup. So how do they go about doing this? How do they reach pivot? How do they explore this opportunity?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely. You know, the best the best way to do it is really to visit our Web site. There's lots of good information there. It's www.pivotenergy.net. And there's also a way to reach out, give us some information about the property, and then we can take a look and make sure it's a good fit for solar. And, you know, the one other thing I'd add here in Denver, yeah, just the one other thing I'd add here in Denver people will be aware of is property owners are also, you know, many of them are worried about how to comply with this Energize Denver policy. It's a building performance standard, energy efficiency for commercial buildings over 25,000 square feet. And a lot of these properties that have vacancy issues are thinking, how am I going to spend money to meet that? I'll just say that this is also an option for how to comply with Energize Denver without having to come out of pocket, make any investment. Pivot Energy takes care of that, and it still meets those regulations. So this is another good thing to be aware of here locally.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that completely makes sense. To meet the regulations, you don't have to put any money out of pocket. You might be able to do it with Pivot, not lose money, but actually make money by leasing out your roof or parking lot. Love that. All right, Elliot, great info. It's the first time I'd ever heard of this when I read about you and about Pivot. So thanks for giving us some good news today on The Good News.
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Yeah, happy to give The Good News. Thanks so much for having me, Angie.
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I'm sorry that I'm fat. Welcome, listeners. It is not Wednesday. It is Tuesday, for those of you who are a little confused. And I'm not John Rush. This is Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John. He and Tara are off for the Fourth of July weekend having a lot of fun. So in studio, I have Jeremy Sova. Say hello, Jeremy. Hey there. It's great to be back again. So for those who missed the last time I was on, about four weeks ago, I think, or five, I had Jeremy on with me. So Jeremy is one of my patients. You can say client or whatever term you want to use. But Jeremy is, I'd almost call you an expert biohacker now. and we're going to define what is a biohacker. So for those of you who want to get healthier, who listen in specifically, especially on Wednesdays, to either John or myself, and want stuff that you can do to make yourself healthier so that you're not in that medical-industrial complex, Today's your day. We've got three hours of great information. I suggest that when we're done this evening, go back and listen to the broadcast. You can go on the 560 KLZ, Rush to Reason, and listen to this because we are going to be moving fast. There's so much information. Jeremy has given me a stack of stuff we're going to be talking about. We're going to cover some of the things that we talked about five weeks ago. To clarify some things that we kind of skimmed over and glossed over, but more information as it's coming available. I can't keep up with the stuff anymore. So fortunately, Jeremy has time on his hands. I guess I would call you independently wealthy now. And you have time that you can do a deeper dive than a lot of folks can. And we're going to give you folks a lot of tips on what you can do, regardless of where you're at financially. If you're just starting this journey, if you're like, well, I want to be a baby biohacker. And what's the one thing that I can do? Or if you have as much money as Brian Johnson. Those of you who don't know, Brian Johnson is very famous. He's a multimillionaire. He's just throwing money at his body to reverse aging. And yes, we can reverse your aging, and we'll talk a lot about that. Also, we have in studio James Flounding. So your brother has been joining us the last couple of times, and you guys have your clinic there in Littleton. Why don't you give out a plug for your clinic? Sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we own Revitalized Health in Littleton, have locations up north and down south as well, focusing on functional medicine, anti-aging, peptides, and the whole nine.
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Yeah, so John, James, and Joe do similar things to what I do. We have, I think, in my clinic, the hyperbaric, a few other things. But very similar, very like-minded, not going to try and sell you on just junk and the typical medical stuff. So that's what we're going to be talking about for the next three hours. So those of you who are interested in getting healthier, this is the place for you. But I wanted to first start off saying happy 4th of July. Let's remember what the 4th of July is. That was the day that our founding fathers actually declared independence from King George III. He was a tyrant, and he would make them house their troops. And remember, the British troops at that time, they were not the A team. These were the C teams. These were the convicts, the conscripts, and King George III made a lot of these guys house these soldiers in their little cabins with their wives, their daughters. They had to feed them the whole thing out. And so they sent several grievances to King George III over years. He sent his judges, almost like these leftist activist judges that we see today, that were running roughshod. They had their laws, and they said, we don't care. The king sent us, so we're going to bend the knee to the king and his wishes. And finally it hit a point where the founding fathers said, said, enough is enough. We're willing to sign this document, send it to King George III, saying, you know what? We're done with you. We're going to break off. We declare our independence. They knew when they signed that document that they were signing their death warrant. And so then they had to fight for their independence. And then later we get our independence, the Constitution, after we tried going it on. Each state did their own thing. That didn't work out very well, and then we got the Constitution. So thank you to our founding fathers. Thank you to all those in the military who defend our country. Many of you know that I did serve in the Air Force, so not to brag, but I just did. Thank you for your service. You're welcome very much. So enough about our history. And the other thing I wanted to say is we are going to talk a lot about getting yourself healthy. But it doesn't matter if you come to me and I'm able to add another 10, 15 years onto your life. Unless you have Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior in your life, it doesn't matter if I give you an extra day. Because Scripture says, what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his life? So... I would suggest you find a friend if you are not saved to ask him, what is this salvation? Is it a free gift? Yes. Find out what it's all about. That's my encouragement for you today. So Jeremy, let's jump in. First off, I want to talk about HSA versus FSA. Sure. Okay. So what is the difference and what do those terms mean? Because a lot of people have heard HSA, FSA, because I want to help people at the beginning and at the end of the three hours understand how can they afford the things that we're talking about. Absolutely.
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So FSA stands for Flex Spending Account, and most employers will have some sort of a flex spending option available. where each year you can portion off part of your salary that goes to what we call a use it or lose it. So you have to use those funds over the course of that year or they disappear the next year. That's kind of the first step that most people have access to. And kind of the better option is what they call an HSA, which is a health savings account. Or similar to an independent retirement account, like an IRA, there's a cap each year. I think it's around $7,000 that you can contribute to this, and you can use the funds over the course of your lifetime for medical expenses. And if there's something left over at age 59 1⁄2 or above, then you can pull it out tax-free. But it's a really good way to start to deploy the funds necessary for what I call this intelligent aging or this biohacking process. instead of just paying completely out of pocket because everything we're going to talk about today, or at least 99% of it, is not going to be covered by your typical health insurance plan.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's correct. Well done. Well said. So, yeah, if you have a health or you're in the market for a health insurance plan, then we would recommend getting one, even if it's an Obamacare plan, get one that has an HSA account. James, do you guys take HSA in your clinic?
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We do, yeah.
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Yeah. See, so a lot of us do. You're starting to get more docs that are taking HSA, FSA. It's pretty easy. Sometimes we have to write a letter or prescription. Why did you use this? Everybody has a gatekeeper, right? And we have to satisfy the gatekeepers. But it's your money, so you might as well use it for your health.
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Yeah, I mean, I would go as far as to say is other than basic needs, you know, you got your rent, your food, your clothing. Nowadays, you call it your cell phone, laptop and your automobile. What's next is what you should be spending money on for your own health. Like everything beyond what I just said is not as important as spending this money to improve your health.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're exactly right. So we have to start somewhere. So. James, if somebody comes into your clinic, brand new, and let's say they're 55 years of age and they say, what test do I need to do or where am I at? I want this biohacking. And we'll define biohacking here in a second. What is the plan that you normally lay out for folks? Yeah.
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Right. I mean, obviously, first, we're going to take a medical history and get that paperwork completed like you would normally going to your doctor's office. We want to know what medications, your general health status, so forth is. But we're going to do an initial evaluation, including physical examination, blood work, more importantly, to see where do we stand at a baseline. We need to know that. We want to know that. So correct the things that are essentially right in front of our face, that tangible evidence that data we can actually change. Then next comes, what are we after? What are our goals? What are your deficiencies? What are you lacking? And that's where we can talk more effectively. Combining that with functional medicine and the peptides, the other supplemental treatment options to come up with a well-rounded plan for your overall health.
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I'm glad you said that. I didn't lob you a softball, but I wanted the audience to hear that it's a communication. It's two ways. You go to a normal doctor. And it's a, oh, you're here for a new patient visit, and they have their script that they go through. You fill out a gazillion forms. They put their stethoscope on your chest. Okay, well, let's get some labs or biomarkers, basic stuff, and then… I'll see you for your cholesterol check. And here's another statin. And then that's kind of it. It's not a team effort. It's not what are you looking to do? What can we do that's maybe outside of the box? So I want to dive deeper. And Jeremy, your story is fascinating. So we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, I want you to recap the story that you told five weeks ago of where you started from, how crappy you were, and let's take this journey with you using you as that example. Okay. Sounds great. All right. So you're listening to Dr. Scott and friends filling in on this Health and Wellness Wednesday on Tuesday before 4th of July. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John on this Health and Wellness Tuesday, not Wednesday. I have my guests in the studio, James Flauding and Jeremy Silva. So, Jeremy, give us a recap of how crappy you were. Can I say, Charlie, can I say crappy? Okay. Charlie, give me a thumbs up.
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That's how I felt, so it fits.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly. How bad you were a couple of years ago.
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Yeah, we'll go five years ago is when things really started to get ugly. Overweight, high stress, not sleeping, like all the things that a typical standard American sedentary work lifestyle entail. Without paying attention other than, you know, going to the gym once in a while. And the journey has been incredible. We've gotten to the point now where I was 62 years old at age 42. So I was about 20 years older.
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Based on what tests?
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Um, based on glycan age, which is an inflammatory marker test. And we test that. Yep. And, um, that was the primary test that told me I was in my early sixties. And so that kind of freaked me out and it led to all kinds of looks at different issues and inflammatory markers. And I was, you know, 215 pounds. It was 24. 3% body fat. My BMI was 32. And now I'm younger than my biological age by a couple of years. So I've reversed my age about 16.4 years now based on three different biological aging tests and looking at what those do. but it didn't come with as much change as you would think. All right. It was just a little bit here, a little bit there, but it all starts with what we talked about about five weeks ago is you, if you don't measure it, you can't manage it. So that means, you know, you doctors call them labs, us, you know, intelligent aging biohackers call them biomarkers and, So finding out everything that's going on in your blood and in your organs and looking at it on paper and then figuring out how to supplement for deficiency instead of just supplementing for the sake of supplementation. But you don't know what to do and what to take or what not to eat until you know the results of those biomarkers. So that's by far the first step. And then lately, a lot of people listen to this called a podcast. It's up on Apple Podcasts and iHeartRadio. And they're like, well, why do you want to live forever? Or aren't you miserable doing all these things, taking these supplements and these lifestyle changes? And the answer is I don't want to live forever. I want to just be healthy for as long as I do live. I want to make sure if I drop dead at 70 80 or 90 that i'm on the golf course or i'm on the ski slopes or i'm i'm in bed with my spouse and like some major cardiac event happens but up to that point i want to be as if i'm 25 years old the entire time and we're seeing now that it's possible and we continue to drive towards those different means and modalities to get there so that's kind of where it all started and now five years later i'm blown away at the results and i'm just getting started
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Yeah. And I like that you say that with the biomarkers because that's exactly what you said, James. When a patient comes into you, it's that conversation. Whether you call them labs or biomarkers, guys like us do so many more than a typical – most people have heard me say this, a dock in the box. They'll check your kidney and your liver function. They'll check a CBC, which checks your white blood cell count, red blood cell count, your platelets. If you're a guy, they may check a PSA and make sure you don't have prostate cancer. They'll definitely check a lipid panel because they definitely want to throw you on a statin, whether you need it or not. And that's kind of it. And then they pat you on the head. They might adjust if there's something off slightly. And then they'll say, we'll see you in a year. Right.
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And meanwhile, we talked about the four horsemen of death, which is heart disease, number one, kills more people than anything else, cancer, metabolic syndrome, and brain disease. So those are the four things that you really need to focus on individually and in total. And there's really four ways to do that that we'll talk about through the course of these three hours. And it's sleep, exercise, nutritional biochemistry, and stress management. And each of those can attack the four horsemen. And when you get the matrix complete, you'll start to see things that you couldn't believe were possible.
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Right. And as we said at the outset, you can do this incrementally, piecemeal. You don't have to jump all the way in up to your eyeballs. and spend $50,000 or whatever that figure is, you can do this fairly inexpensively and start that journey to get yourself healthy. That's right. So I think that's a great place to start. So Jeremy, keep talking about how did you get started? Sure.
SPEAKER 20 :
you know, did some biomarkers, figured out there was some inflammation going on, had to start figuring out where it was coming from, what it was doing. So I focused on the heart first because it's the most important. And I thought it may have been some autoimmune stuff in my genetic code from my parents. And there's some of that we'll talk about later, but did find out that there was significant inflammation leading to some heart issues and So I lied to my primary care doctor and told him I was having some chest pain so I could get some testing that I otherwise couldn't get done because it wouldn't be covered by insurance. Ended up getting a calcium score, which is a CT scan that looks at the calcium buildup in the heart and the arteries. Found out that I think about 15% of my left anterior descending artery, which is the one next to the widowmaker, was blocked with calcium you know so i freaked out right so i did all the research i could possibly do to figure out like how to stop more of that from happening i didn't know i could really reverse the health of the arteries at the time um so took that information and decided what do i do with it so i was referred to a cardiologist and a rheumatologist and i met with both of those folks and they're some of the best in colorado by um by medicine 1.0 standards. We can talk about 1.0 and 3.0 later. And found out that really all they wanted to do, like you said, was put me on a statin and hope that they'd see me later to be able to put in a stent at some point. And I wasn't satisfied. So I decided to look much deeper, get a lot more biomarkers, particularly on the heart, the brain, and the metabolic health, which are three of the four things that cause issues. And the biggest one for the lay folks out there, because you can really talk about lipoprotein fractionality, and you can really geek out on some of this stuff, but apolipoprotein B, as in boy, short for ApoB, is a very easy marker to find and see if it's elevated, and you need to get it lowered significantly. I think below 50 is what my research shows. Mine was 135 when I first tested it. And a lot of other bad stuff too. But there's different ways to do it. And there's different genotypes that we can talk about that you get one allele from your mom, one allele from your dad, and your heart gene is what it is. And there's some epigenetic changes and gene expressions that we can talk about to make those better. But as a baseline, you've got to see what you were given by God and your folks and say, okay, what do we do now? And ApoB is a very easy thing to get tested. When I first asked my primary care physician about it, he kind of smirked and he's like, well, there's going to be an additional fee for that. And what I learned was he was basically going to have to charge me because my insurance company wasn't going to cover that. They were going to cover the typical lipid panel, which is LDL, HDL, total cholesterol, and triglycerides. Correct. So I think I paid an extra 45 bucks, you know, to find out what my ApoB was. And it came back high. So I was like, all right, what do I do? So research shows that there's really three different ways outside of exercise, nutrition, you know, from a pharmacological perspective to help with ApoB from hurting your arteries through plaque buildup called atherosclerosis. And one of them is as simple as something that blocks the cholesterol in the stomach. And I think the brand name is called Zetia. But Azetabibe is the name of it. One 10 milligram tablet blocks the buildup in the stomach, doesn't have any side effects. So I think that's a good place to start before you start talking about statins. But say that doesn't work, then you can talk about maybe a low dose resuvastatin, see if there's any side effects. And you can do the combination of the two, which is what I do now very effectively. And there's also short-term and long-term PCSK9 inhibitor injections. And I don't know what PCSK9 stands for, folks, so you're going to have to Google that one. But it'll come up right away. And so those three things from a doctor perspective can help knock those cholesterol numbers into a much, much better position. I have a lipid panel now of about a 25-year-old when it was that of a 70-year-old just five years ago. So ApoB, find it and lower it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because it is a superior marker of heart disease. James, do you guys check ApoB?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we do. Yeah. I mean, go back to what you were saying, like the doctor presenting it as, well, I'm going to have to charge you extra for that. Give them that option, right?
SPEAKER 01 :
Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's kind of how we present it. We do insurance based biomarkers or labs and out of pocket. And ultimately, if it's out of pocket, this is what the cost is going to be. But this is what I'm highly recommending. Right. And, you know, for especially for someone who's at a high cardiac rate. risk and you're starting them on any kind of hormone replacement or just general health management alone, you know, I think those are super important. We, we do the, the calcium scores as well. And, you know, if needed echo and, and any kind of further cardiac workup if needed, but I think it's super important, especially if you're going to be on testosterone replacement, you know, as you age to at least get that evaluated and, and clear to know what your risk is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly. So my example is my dad, right? He died at 45. He was 165 pounds and died at 45 of massive heart attack, the widow maker, the left main. Um, and I don't know if he'd had symptoms ahead of time.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oftentimes they don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
The only thing I know is when we would elk hunt that last year, I had to carry my dad's rifle. And I feel badly even to this day because I gave him crap. I was like, oh, you're making your teenage son carry your rifle. I had no idea that he couldn't make it up the mountain, that there was something going on in his chest. But if he had this knowledge, this information, then we could have found it, or we. I was a teenager at the time. The doctors could have found this, and they could have saved my dad's life.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 07 :
You don't know. As a doctor, I can't look at you. I'm not Superman. I don't have x-ray vision. I need information. I need data. And so for the vast majority of people who are satisfied with going to Kaiser and getting their annual exam with just a few things, then you know what? God bless you. But for the people, John's listeners, who are highly intelligent folks, they think outside of the box. That's why they're listening to us. They're taking notes. We're going to give you the roadmap so that you don't end up like my dad did. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sorry. I was saying the thing is, you feel good until you don't. You're quote-unquote healthy until you aren't. Right. And those things can creep up with you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Especially with the heart, right? There's a reason it's the number one killer in the world. It's the one that creeps up on you over time, and just one piece of soft plaque breaks off and gets plugged. You can get lucky and have a defibrillator nearby or access to an ambulance, but oftentimes... It's too late.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Real quick story. Three years ago, I went to the emergency room, and I'll tell you a little bit of background with that. I've always been healthy. I'm in relatively great shape for my whole life. I exercise and work out. My diet isn't on point, but it's relatively clean. And I've never had any concerns as far as symptomatic presentation. About three years ago, I started having these episodes of vision changes, very brief, but they would come and go, intermittent. Just kind of diaphoretic or sweating. My chest was feeling heavy. And I got to the point where I was thinking I was having a heart attack one day. And so I told my wife, I'm like, can you check my blood pressure? She's a nurse as well. And she got a pretty high reading. It was high 100s over low 100s for the diastolic. And I'm like, okay, that's kind of concerning. So she rushes me to the hospital. Upon intake, triage, my blood pressure was 205 over 120, I think it was. Stroke territory. Yeah, absolutely. And so they did the whole cardiac workup from there, and everything came back fine as far as the evaluation, but I had underlying hypertension. And I never knew it, never felt it. So you can... Look fine, feel fine, but just that's what I'm saying. You don't know until you know. That's right.
SPEAKER 20 :
The mirror is not going to tell you what's going on on the inside. I have a good buddy and a trainer that's in the exact same boat. He did his biomarkers based on what we're talking about here, and he's got a doctor's appointment on Thursday.
SPEAKER 07 :
Fantastic. Good. This is a great place to stop. We're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, let's jump into the brain next. Excellent. All right, so you're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush on Health and Wellness Wednesday. On Tuesday, we'll be right back.
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Listeners, you're listening to Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush on this Health and Wellness Wednesday on Tuesday, right before the 4th of July. We just had a caller ask, how do we get a hold of you guys? So my clinic is called Castle Rock Regenerative Healthcare. You can listen to the advertisements here on John's show. But to reach the clinic, it's 303-663-6990, Castle Rock Regenerative Health Care. I do televisits as well. So if you're up north, you're in Wyoming, I had a gal in Cheyenne get a hold of me because she could not find a doctor. And I'm a long ways from Cheyenne, and I'm thinking all the people between here and there. But I'm glad she reached out to me. We got her dialed in. She's feeling so much better. It basically gave her life back. So that's Castle Rock Regenerative Health Care. You can find us on the web. And James, go ahead and give your information.
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Yeah, so we're Revitalized Health and phone number 720-361-2302. And yeah, same thing. We focus our function out of Littleton, Colorado. Johnstown, Colorado, but we do telemedicine as well, just like Dr. Faulkner does.
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Yeah, and I don't mind sharing because, let's face it, I can't take care of everybody.
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High tides raise all boats.
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Well, that's exactly right. I went into medicine because I wanted to help people. It's not, geez, can I die with a pile of cash and drive the fanciest car? I want people to get healthy. That's why I left the ICU. That's why I'm doing this. And I lowered the price of all the GLP medicines, the semaglutide, terazeptide, to get people to lose weight to be healthy because I want you to be healthy so that you don't end up in the hospital with your heart attack or your stroke or pick your other favorite disease.
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That's a good place for me to say, too, that you're going to hear me talk about a lot of products and companies over the course of these things. I have no stock in any of them. I have no hidden agenda. No one's paying me anything to be here. I've just done the research for my own self, and the results have been so fascinating that I want to share them with the world.
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Right. And as a listener, you can do this for yourself, whether you have a lot of money or a little bit of money. Like I said, take that first step. First step is to do a consultation with the doctor who's going to take the time, listen to you, and map out a plan. And wherever you're at, we'll meet you where you're at and say, okay, well, these are some of the things that we can start to work on. And it's been five years for you. But look at where you're at now. I mean, your son's playing hockey. He's a young teenager. You're going to be around for him. My dad died when I was 18.
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Yeah, I mean, I was pretty much bedridden from back surgeries and being unhealthy from 2013 through COVID. And since then, now I can run circles around myself in my 20s. Right. So the body will bounce back until it won't. Yeah. So you got to make sure you do the right things up front.
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Yep. So we were going to talk about the brain. So, Jeremy, you take it away.
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Sure. So brain disease, one of the horsemen, probably the most commonly known is Alzheimer's disease. People know about Parkinson's and some other brain diseases. But what we're learning is it's looking as if it's really an autoimmune disease of the brain on the other side of the blood-brain barrier. So you hear about autoimmune diseases that people have, like rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. So they think that something's going on with metabolic health that is causing the brain to kind of turn on itself. And I was reluctant to do it for the first year because I was not sure I wanted to know. But there's different alleles, they call them, or genotypes. And you get one from your mom, you get one from your dad. And these are called APO, lipoprotein E, as in Edward. So APO B was heart, APO E is brain. So APO E, you can have a 2, a 3, or a 4 from mom and dad. So your combos are 2-2, 2-3, 3-3, or 4-4, or 2-4. Um, two fours is bad. That means you're one of the 7 million Americans that have been tested that has a 65 to 90% likelihood of developing early onset Alzheimer's probably somewhere around retirement age. Two twos is great, but it's also rare. So most people are a two three or a three four. Turns out I'm a three four, which is in the biomarker Hyman Labs function health app is in range because I only have one four. And so backing up, now we think that Alzheimer's is really a disease of choice. You're not really destined to have it because even if you do have two copies of ApoE4, there's certain interventions and modalities that you can do against all the categories we're going to talk about here today. that can keep you from getting that disease.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So that's the difference between having genetics and epigenetics, what you're talking about. That's right. So it's really the epigenetics that is key. So keep going.
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Yep. So your gene expression, if you do nothing, it's most likely going to result to what the genetic code came from, from your folks. But you can biohack it, to use this term, and get ahead of those things and not be mad at mom and dad if you happen to get one or two copies of ApoE4. So exercise is the biggest one, and we're going to talk a lot about exercise here in a little bit. But there's also different modalities that you can do to improve your mitochondrial cognitive function and health and get your metabolic health in order. We're finding all these things are tied together. All four of the horsemen are driven by metabolism. Basically, metabolic dysfunction or insulin resistance. And all four of the things that we're going to talk about that can fix it also work together.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. So this term biohacking, you reminded me to go back and define it. So biohacking... We use that word a lot. It's just a do-it-yourself form of personal improvement in which people attempt to change aspects of their biology to improve their health, performance, or well-being. That's right. So it's a cool word. It's you just do-it-yourself helping yourself.
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Yeah, I learned it. I didn't even know the term. I just basically brought data to my doctor. And I was paying for a whole hour a year. It's VIP service for $2,500 called MDVIP. And they send your blood to the Cleveland Clinic, which I found out is no different than the Quest up the street.
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Right.
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They charge you for it. But it gave me an hour, right? I really would get into some pretty interesting debates with my own health. And I think I taught him some things too. But most people don't have that kind of access. So to biohack is to find out your own stuff and then find somebody like you guys to talk to about it and get the stuff you need. Because oftentimes you need a doctor to write a script for maybe one or two things. You can't do that on your own. But you sure as hell can bring that data in and say, look, I need this. I don't care what my insurance company says.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. So, James, do you have a lot of biohackers coming into the clinic?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we do. We have, I'd say, a good percentage of patients are leaning more towards that these days where they've either been fed up with kind of running the circles that they go in with their primary care provider. And so they take it upon themselves. You know, I think this is becoming more and more known, if you will, as far as gaining popularity, self-awareness. And they're taking it in their hands to deal with their health, you know, outside of their doctor. And that's unfortunate that that's happening, I think. But I think it's necessary and necessary. beneficial to us as far as being able to help those individuals, but it shouldn't be that way.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. Throw a plug to Dr. Peter Attia. He basically talks about the crack in the foundation of the way the healthcare system has been set up over the last hundred years. He calls that medicine 1.0. Well, now we fast forwarded to this biohacking discussion is really medicine 3.0. And we put a crack in the foundation of the American health care system. And we're going to bring it to its knees over the course of the next 10 years.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And I've said this before. COVID was a blessing and a curse. I mean, a lot of people died, including my mom, from this. And I want to wring the neck of her PCP there in Grand Junction who convinced her to take that stupid COVID shot when I was telling her not to. That's why we call it the clot shot. And now we're finding young ladies who have given birth, their children, the babies, are now starting to clot. So that concern of did that spike protein cross the placenta is now looking like, yes, it can. And so these little kiddos are starting to clot. But COVID was a blessing and a curse because a lot of people have come to the realization that the medical establishment is not there to help them.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, we stopped trusting the medical industrial complex. Correct. We trusted them up until that point, until they lied to us and they got caught.
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Yes. Yeah. And those of us have lost our jobs because we try to stand up against the medical industrial complex. But there's a few of us out there. You guys are growing. Yeah, we're growing in our numbers, and we're trailblazers, and we're happy to do it. We'll take those arrows when we have to, and we'll stand on top of the mountain with guys like you. We have to take another break. Then we'll be right back. We'll keep talking about brain, and I wanted to give people more information on what are some of these biomarkers that they can be doing, tests that they can do for their brain, and we can go back and talk to you on the heart as well. So let's take a break. We'll be right back. 560 KLZ with Dr. Scott Falkner.
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And Jeremy Sova. We're taking a deep dive on biohacking, making yourself as young as possible, trying to reverse a lot of the damage that a lot of us have done. I just turned 59 a couple of days ago. Happy birthday. Thank you very much. And doing everything I can. And you're exactly right about doing supplements smart. I told my wife a few months ago, I have not felt this good since I did in my 20s because I'm on the journey like you are. um so as i started to do the the right supplements for mitochondria there was a purpose for everything that i did right the red light the hyperbaric um i still don't like coal i really can't get in that cryo chamber even though i own it um it's a tough one for me but uh i'll tell the folks that i get through the cold here in a bit yeah but i can ride my dirt bike up in the mountains like on single track, nobody's business. Sounds like fun. It's fun. So before the break, I wanted you to go back and touch on the heart. What test would you recommend? Because people are going to listen to this. People are hopping in and out of their car. They can only listen for a short time. They'll go back and listen to this tonight. They're going to have a piece of paper and a pencil. They're like, okay, what are the things that they said that I can start to do or go into my doctor or go see James at his clinic or see Dr. Faulkner? What are the things that I should be asking to do? We already talked on the glycan age. That was the very first thing. I highly recommend that.
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Yeah, and going back five weeks, we talked about the Function Health Hyman Labs, which I think is the most effective at the right price of $500 a year that gives you the most info. So they will give you a handful of that stuff. But getting more specific to the heart, there might be some add-ons that you have to pay for in addition.
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Okay.
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They'll give you a basic panel of total cholesterol, HDL, LDL, triglycerides. They'll give you the ApoB that we talked about. And then there's a few others that you should be looking at. One is they call it LP little a. So lipoprotein parentheses little a. That's another important marker that you should be looking for that they'll give you. And another one that crosses all kinds of boundaries, but the heart is the first focus is high sensitivity C-reactive protein or HSCRP. That is going to tell you all kinds of information about heart health, inflammatory markers, potential autoimmune disease. But heart is the kind of the main focus there. And then if you really want to geek out like I did and look even deeper, you can start to look at certain genotypes. Like you got this, you know, atrial fibrillation gene from mom, this one from dad. Here's your risk from mom, from dad. Do they look good? Do they look great? Do they look questionable? That's a little bit deeper along the journey. But I think the ones we just mentioned, in addition to what they call LP-PLA2 activity. True. that and the myeloperoxidase the MPO that and there you go and the myeloperoxidase so those ones are kind of your baseline starting point you need to know what those numbers are and we can talk about what you do about them if they're good sometimes or if they're bad I'm sorry and sometimes if they're good you want to keep them good and there's ways to do that too so yeah get the heart biomarkers looked at ApoB is by far the easiest and most important and then the others that we just mentioned you can go back and kind of note those down
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Yeah. And so James, in your guys' clinic, I know Dr. Mark Hyman, he does a great job, but he has a waiting list and the hundreds of thousands of people wanting to get these biomarkers or labs. They're a great price. I offer my clinic through Quest. I beat them up on price to get most of the biomarkers that Mark Hyman does. Oh, that's great. Not quite all, but most of them. And the cash price is so low. It's amazing. What do you guys do in your clinic?
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So we, yeah, we'll do quest. We'll do lab core. We'll do, uh, Rupa health a lot, which is, you know, a company that you can have go online, pay for a certain package of labs that, that whatever we recommend and they will ship you, uh, a box essentially with a lab draw kit that you could take into any lab services. So pretty convenient for that. Um, and then we use access medical, which is all cash based out of pocket and, Essentially, you can just pick any lab that we want. We have certain panels that we have contracted prices through to keep the cost down for our patients. But ultimately, at least at our clinic, we want you to invest your time and money into your health. And so our lab prices are driven down intentionally. just at our office for barely making profit on labs. I mean, we don't mark our labs up significantly like some offices do because if you're spending $800 on labs, okay, it's super important like we're talking about, but now... You're just upset, you're frustrated, financially burdened, where I just spent all this and now you want me to start treatment. For a lot of individuals, that's a tough pill to swallow. But it's a necessary evil. You have to pay for the lapse.
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At least once. You should do it every year, but at least once to get your baseline. What's wrong and what you should be focusing on. For instance... Once you look at this stuff, you're going to say, oh, well, my cholesterol has always been good. My total, my LDL, my HDL, my triglycerides. But all of a sudden, I'm seeing some bad markers. That's why you're peeling the onion back more. And now where I'm at is I'm finding out that I have some... particle size issues in the LDL, small lipodensity protein particles. So what you want is big, soft beach ball particles rolling around and bouncing versus like tiny golf ball particles. Think you'd hit in the head with a beach ball. It doesn't hurt. You get hit in the head with a golf ball. It hurts. So you need to convert your golf balls to beach balls. That's my next phase. After I got all the stuff we just talked about in line. So there's more as you go down the road to get things in line to prevent heart disease.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, fantastic. Thank you, guys. So, Jeremy, then we talked about the brain. So what are some of the things that you've done that the lay person out there listening can do to get their brain either imaged or tested?
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Yeah, so the first thing we mentioned is the APOE genotype or allele. Any of these labs can do it. You just got to get your doc to ask for it. And that will tell you right away what your risk factor is for brain disease. And once you know that, you can say, okay, I'm low risk, medium risk, high risk. And if you're medium risk or high risk, then you probably need to streamline some more interventional therapies to help prevent it over time. Because like we said, these brain diseases are more disease of choice these days. Um, in addition to that, you can get a functional brain MRI. Let's say you've had some, some traumatic brain injuries or some concussions and you want to see if there's been head trauma or damage. Um, that's taking things to an imaging level, but I would say for the purposes of just trying to figure out what's going on inside your body, that APOE test will tell you quite a bit.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So do you do any special imaging for people's brains?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Upon request. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So whether it's, you know, CT scans, MRIs, you know, we've been doing a lot of the full body MRIs lately. Um, and so, yeah, really, like I said, I mean, it's tough when you have an initial consultation with a patient, you try to keep it as minimal as possible, but as informational and broad at the same time, right? You don't want to feel like you're overselling your patients on all these services that you offer, overwhelming them with everything that we have. So within reason we, you know, and for right patients, absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So I'm hearing the music. We didn't get a chance to talk about a whole body MRI, but when we come back in the next hour, we're going to start with metabolic health. And again, do that deep dive. What can people do for their metabolic health? Because it's so important. So thank you for listening to hour one. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush. We'll be back shortly for hour two.
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Welcome back, listeners. It's actually Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John. It is Health and Wellness Wednesday, but holding on a Tuesday right before the Fourth of July weekend. So, again, thank you for the troops for keeping us safe in our independence. And thank you, Supreme Court, for... Keeping us safe.
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Absolutely. Getting rid of those activists, liberal judges that thought they could hold the throne over the throats of all the people in the country. Amen. Amy Coney Barrett, way to give it to Ketanji Jackson.
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Finally. Yes. So we were talking about biohacking, the things that folks can do either by writing this down and taking it to their doc in the box and saying, this is what I want, or coming to somebody like James Flouting who owns Revitalized Health. And how do they find you?
SPEAKER 05 :
We can go to revitalized-health.com or call us at 720-361-2302.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, and you can find me, Dr. Scott Faulkner, Castle Rock Regenerative Healthcare, 303-663-6990. And you cannot find Jeremy because he's always at my place.
SPEAKER 13 :
I was going to say, I'm easy to find. Just go to your place.
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Yeah, just go to my place because he's doing all the modalities. So we're not going to go back and rehash all the things that we talked about in hour one. Folks can listen to that. We hit the heart. We hit the brain. Some of the tests that you can do, like the glycan age. biomarkers. Let's move on to metabolic health. Great. So Jeremy, take the floor.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, so backing up a little bit, if I could do this over again, I probably would have started with metabolic health. Reason being, what the data shows is all of these horseman issues um they're rooted in poor metabolic health that's kind of where it all starts so poor metabolic health can lead to the heart issues to the brain issues to the cancer issues so how do you check your metabolic health right if once a year you go to the doctor and you get or even if you go a couple times a year they'll give you your hemoglobin a1c number that's kind of the What is that number? That's if they do it. If they'll do it. Well, hopefully they will because that's the easiest thing to test is look back over the last 90 days of what's going on with your blood glucose. So sugar. So basically, if it's under 5.7 or less... you're considered healthy there's a few air quotes here but it's probably better to be closer to 5.3 to 4.8 is ideal well actually now through A4M we're aiming for 5.0 or less there you go so below 5 is the end goal and if you're 5.7 to I think it's 6.5 you're considered pre-diabetic which means you pretty much have diabetes but you can still reverse it and over 7 you're a type 2 diabetic and that's going to lead to a whole host of
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health concerns well anything 6.5 or greater is the diagnosis so before we used to use glucose right one fasting glucose 126 or greater we needed that to make the diagnosis of diabetes then several years ago they said okay well you can use hemoglobin a1c 6.5 or greater you've got that marker bam
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep. There you go. So what I've found is basically a fasting glucose. So you don't eat for 12 hours. You get your blood work done. It's a snapshot in time. Should be less than 88 is the number. Your normal plant panel will have it normal under 100.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Again, a lot of air quotes. You're right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it's more air quotes. But really, 88 or better is what a snapshot should look like. And what I'm certainly learning more and more, I've blown my own mind in the last five days. And we're going to talk about some cool gadgets coming up. But I have a continuous glucose monitor on right now, CGM for short. And it looks at my blood glucose 24-7. Um, for 15 days at a time and I change it and I'm going to do this for at least 60 days. And the amount of data that I'm collecting about my own metabolic health has been phenomenal and they're very easy to get. Um, and essentially what it does is it shows the spikes in the steady climbs and steady falls over the course of the day in your blood. Um, and you can learn to biohack certain things. And I'll tell a very short story here over the last couple of days that I learned about seed oils. You're hearing everybody talk about how bad these seed oils are for you. I know the Maha movement and RFK Jr. is trying to get rid of these seed oils for good reason. So I'm going to take Wendy's and Popeye's chicken. Two days in a row, I had the same thing. I had a fried chicken sandwich, a small fry, and a water. Wendy's uses vegetable oil and canola oil, these seed oils they talk about. Popeye's uses beef tallow. The Wendy's spiked my glucose into dangerous ranges, and they held there for an hour and 20 minutes before they fell back into the normal ranges. Popeyes didn't move it at all. It stayed normal the entire time. So the difference between vegetable oil and beef tallow. Now, you shouldn't be eating fast food anyway, but if you're forced into a situation where you have to get the quick meal, avoid the seed oils and go with places that have beef tallow. Beef tallow can also be high in saturated fats or SFAs. But far better choice than these dangerous seed oils. So I learned that just the last couple of days about my metabolic health. And I've learned how to keep it in line day and night. So those are very easy to do. But I'm not sure there's a better way to manage and measure over time than to get one of these things in your arm. Because looking at 90 day chunks or looking at fasting glucose, for instance, I've also noticed that if I hit it right, I go get my blood work, it can be 85. But if I'm off by half hour, it could be 102. You're looking at me like, why is your glucose 102? And I'm like, it's not, it's 85. But these subtle changes happen over the course of the day. So get a CGM, track your blood sugar. And before you know it, you're going to start making some very well-informed decisions about what to eat, when to eat it. And I talk about an 80-20 rule. Like 80% of the time, try to do everything that I'm doing. And 20% of the time... live your life, eat the pizza, eat the pasta, eat the ice cream, eat the chocolate. But with the CGM monitor on, you can tell yourself when to eat it, have the ice cream at lunch and take a 20 minute walk with the dog. Don't have the ice cream at 11 o'clock at night and go sit on the couch. Huge difference in blood glucose spikes.
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Absolutely. Yeah. Here's a quick story. So a lot of the listeners have heard me talk about my sister-in-law, Eileen. She lives out in Massachusetts. She has early onset dementia. And now we know That is type 3 diabetes. It has everything to do with insulin resistance. So exactly what we're talking about right now. Insulin resistance is the driver of a lot of this disease. And she came out with her husband to do the hyperbaric because we know hyperbaric treats dementia. We can actually reverse it. And she was doing so well. She could actually remember her husband. She could remember what we did. We went up to Cripple Creek. She could remember the drive, all that stuff. When she came to us, she couldn't remember anything. And then we made the mistake. We got ice cream. One ice cream wrecked her for a day and a half. She went backwards to where she started from. After three weeks of hyperbaric, she could remember one ice cream. Just that sugar load alone wrecked her mental health. That's the power of sugar insulin resistance in the human body. Whether you have a CGM on or not, but I guarantee you if she'd been wearing that continuous glucose monitor, she probably would have spiked to 180. Right. But that's the information that people need, and you don't have to be a diabetic to get these things. I mean, I sell them in my office. You can get them online. You don't need a doctor's prescription. Right.
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And the beauty is this is reversible. You can reverse this and get your blood sugar levels into perfection long before it turns into these other diseases, brain, heart, cancer.
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Yeah. And like Dr. David Perlmutter, he's a neurologist, highly respected neurologist. So those who are listening... When you get home and you want to get an expert's opinion, go on YouTube and type in Dr. David Perlmutter, P-E-R-L-M-U-T-T-E-R. He's a neurologist. And listen to anything he talks about, and he will blow your mind on Alzheimer's, dementia, brain health. and insulin resistance and type 3 diabetes. So that's an expert that you can trust. Peter Attia is another expert that we listen to, the Mark Hyman's of the world. Some of these guys are a little bit out there for me. James, who do you guys listen to, get some of your information from?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, all different kinds of sources, different podcasts. I don't think I have anything specific to mention right now.
SPEAKER 13 :
Dr. Andrew Huberman out of Stanford is a big one that I like too. And ironically, every man's man, Joe Rogan is on top of this stuff now. So watch the Joe Rogan podcast when he talks about health because he's using all the stuff we're going to talk about like I am. And it's done wonders. Wait till we talk about stem cells later.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but who's got three hours to listen to Joe? I don't. So I've got to pick and choose what I want to do.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, you get the clips online. You can sort them through, ones that are just health-specific, and watch them in five, ten-minute chunks. Yeah, there you go. They call them reels on Instagram for all you young kids out there.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. All right, so it looks like we're up against the clock. We're going to take another break, and then when we come back, we're going to talk about hydration, sunscreen, mitochondrial health, things like that. So you're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush on Tuesday, Wednesday, which is Health and Wellness Wednesday before the 4th of July.
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SPEAKER 07 :
putting reason into your afternoon drive this is john rush actually it's dr scott faulkner filling in for john on this health and wellness wednesday on tuesday before fourth of july and uh during the break um jeremy and james and i we were talking that we wanted to actually round out cancer that fourth horseman of the apocalypse yeah um so jeremy talk about cancer
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep. So it's going to be pretty short. Most important thing most people already realize is cancer is really hard to cure if it's late stage. So early detection is the most important part of it. Catching it right away, stage zero, stage one. And an easy way to do that is to take an annual blood test called the gallery test. Gallery with an I, not a Y. and it's a couple of vials of blood, and they look at like 60 different types of cancers that are common, and they can find out pretty early on if there's markers in the blood. And now we're seeing research that shows that you can almost find out three years before a tumor will form if you got the blood markers of certain cancers. That paired with an annual imaging or a full-body MRI that you can talk about, James. But those are the things, right? Like check the blood, check the imaging, and especially as you get older, do it on an annual basis because catching... cancer early like we did in my family can really save lives and add a lot of health span to those lives that otherwise would start to metastasize and get into a situation where they're going to have a very poor quality of life and possibly short-lived.
SPEAKER 07 :
So James, is that what you guys do? The gallery test and the MRI, whole body MRI?
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Yeah. And so the whole body MRI, we use a company called Simon Med to specifically do that. Relatively inexpensive, $650. And They have another option that's a little bit more expensive, and that does more of the cardiac function and vessel health and so forth, a little bit more in-depth. But the whole-body MRI for 650 will essentially show you any active tumors, anything concerning. And so there's a lot of speculation out there that, doctors are upset that people are doing this because it's given them false because they'll find all these little incident and incidental findings, right? That maybe just a little cyst or polyp or this or that, that's not actually malignant, but you know, and so they're saying like, well, why scare the patients? Well, why not? Right. If it's something concerning, then that, then we need to decipher if we need to treat that or not, even if it is just a little cyst.
SPEAKER 1 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 05 :
get your cyst out or now, you know, it's just a cyst and move on. Right. And it's benign. So I don't agree with that, but yes, absolutely. We, we do offer that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Or you can track and say, okay, in six months, let's repeat this scan and see, is this thing growing? Right. Right. That's what we do all the time in the hospital. Oh, you came in because you're got a car wreck. We do a pan scan, CT scan. and we see a nodule or a ditzel in your chest under one sonometer, well, is it real or isn't it? What do they recommend? Well, in six months, you need to get a repeat scan. CT has radiation. MRI does not. The downside to MR is some people are claustrophobic and they don't like being in that little tube. But if you're not claustrophobic, I'll tell you what, it's a game changer. I just had a lady come to me a couple of days ago and she had a mammogram, which was negative, ultrasound, which was negative, but one of her implants was leaking. Went to the plastic surgeon and said, okay, well, I need an MRI to see what I'm getting into. But, yes, we can clearly give you a new implant. MRI showed she had breast cancer. She would have never have known it based on the mammogram and the ultrasound, but the MRI picked it up. That's why I do a full-body MRI. My wife does a full-body MRI because I want to know – One, if I'm clean, I'm the happiest guy on the planet. That's right. If I've got something, it's actionable when it's small and we can actually do something about it, cut it out, chemo rate, whatever. You have options at that point in time. That's right. So having said that, I want to announce that one of the gals who works with me, she's going to medical school, but we are doing a research protocol for folks, John's listeners, because they believe, like I do, more natural without the toxic chemicals and stuff like that. So if you have a loved one or a friend who has cancer – We are doing a research protocol using more of a natural-based treatment. Okay. I'm not going to say it on the air. I was asked not to. Just give me a call at the office, 303-663-6990. We'll give you more information on it. And it's without the chemotherapy because if I do this in conjunction with chemo, then a lot of the oncologists get pissed off of those of us that do more functional medicine, natural stuff, and I don't need a phone call from a nasty oncologist. So brain tumors, pancreatic, biliary, liver, you name it, it's a solid tumor, so not the blood cancers, not the leukemias, lymphomas, myelomas, but more of the solid cancers, even prostate, colon cancer, esophageal cancer, anything like that, I would like to hear from you. So just give us a call, 303-663-6990, and then Edvita and I will advise you what it entails and how do we go get you into that protocol for us.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's amazing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So you wanted to plug your veterans program because James, unfortunately, has to go to his son's football game. Correct. So then Jeremy are going to have to carry the load. Are you ready, Jeremy? We'll see. All right. So give us a plug.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. So we recently opened up a nonprofit organization to help our country's veterans. You know, they're. Struggling with PTSD, different mental disorders, and they don't get the help that they need a lot of times through the VA, unfortunately. So we wanted to be able to help our little thing that we can do to offer. So revitalizingveterans.org is our nonprofit organization website. You can go there whether you're a veteran yourself. to seek treatment or whether you just want to donate. So a good cause there, this September the 3rd, we're putting on a charity event at Arrowhead Golf Club in Littleton just to raise money for the veteran program. And so September 3rd, the Valor Classic, the first annual, you can go to revitalizingveterans.org to learn more about it. And it'll be fun, a lot of giveaways, food, sponsor a hole, sponsor just a foursome for the golf, but go into a good cause.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, great cause, our veterans. So if you guys can do that or you can reach out to James at the clinic, they can give you more information. One more time, your phone number at the clinic?
SPEAKER 05 :
720-361-2302. Yeah, thank you, and God bless you guys for doing that.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, Jeremy, let's go into hydration.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, great. So it seems simple enough, right? Drink a lot of water, they say. But it's not so simple. Right. Apparently, we're finding out that most of the tap water throughout the country is fluorinated. And fluoride can be good for your teeth in certain instances, but you shouldn't be drinking it every day. And unfortunately, a lot of people still drink tap water and they think, oh, I live in a clean community, you know, it's good water. It has fluoride in it most likely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
And fluoride's not good. So filter your water, whether it's one of those like Brita type filters that you get at the store and you put your water through it and then pour it in. But what we're finding out now is like my grandparents were poisoned by heavy metals, right? They were getting the mercury and the lead poisoning. And then my parents were getting the asbestos poisoning, right? Well, my generation is getting microplastics poisoning. So these microplastics are everywhere. They're showing up in men's testes, and they're showing up in the placenta, and they're showing up in the brain. And they're bad, right? So you don't want your kids and grandkids taking these microplastics in. So, I've removed plastic bottles from my daily life, unless I'm in an emergency, right, and I'm catching a flight and all they have and I need some water. But for the most part, everything I drink is from a stainless steel container or aluminum container or filtered into a glass at my house. And I just found out recently that water in glass bottles, prepackaged water like those Avion bottles that you see in the restaurants on your table, those contain more dangerous microplastics than the plastic bottles do because of the aluminum caps in the paint or leaching in plastic. and causing high numbers of microplastics so basically filter your water don't use plastic and if you really want to take things up a notch i have one sitting right here in the studio i'm putting hydrogen in my water so eight parts per million hydrogen this particular brand is eco flask again i have no no incentive for this particular company they just had the highest ppm that i could find So it takes about nine minutes. I fill it with 12 ounces of water, probably six or seven times a day. Turn it on, push the button. Ten minutes later, it's got enough hydrogen in it that it's ready to go. You release the seal, you hear a noise like a psst. You open it and you drink it down. It tastes just the same as if there was no hydrogen in it. So that's very healthy, and you can look up on chat GPT and these AI bots, and they'll tell you all about hydrogen water. But if you have access to ozone water, that's where the real magic happens. And Dr. Scott, at your clinic, you have ozone water, and I use it at least once a week between other modalities that we'll talk about later. And you drink it relatively quickly, and the ozone in the body we'll get into later has got profound effects on... antioxidants and reducing inflammation and improving the health of the cells and the mitochondria and your Krebs cycle. So ozone water is kind of the perfect water. If you can drink it, hydrogen water next, and then filtered water that does not have fluoride and stop using these plastic water bottles and these companies that are making them start to transition to aluminum. I know it's going to cost you a little bit more money. The aluminum is recyclable, but you'll stop killing your patient or your customers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. And if you see ozonated water at the 7-Eleven because you're hot and you pop in, it is not ozonated because ozone dissipates very, very quickly. And it has to be in glass because ozone hates plastic.
SPEAKER 13 :
Do you have like 10 minutes once it's poured to drink it?
SPEAKER 07 :
About 15 to 20 minutes, but it starts to dissipate very, very quickly. So you want to pound it down quick. And the colder the water, the more ozone that it'll hold.
SPEAKER 13 :
Gotcha. Okay. So colder the better.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So that's why we have ours to where it's almost freezing from the refrigerator. We'll pull it into the glass. We'll ozonate it for 10 minutes. hand it to you, and then you just pound it. Drink it down. Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
And this hydrogen water lasts about 10 hours, but I tend to drink it within the first 10 or 15 minutes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Just to be safe.
SPEAKER 07 :
And here's another little tidbit I just learned that so many women are on birth control pills that through their urine it is getting into the water supply because, you know, everybody's – if you're not up in the mountains, like close to the foothills where I am, where we get our water first because I have a well – And as it flows downstream, every municipality is kind of using recycled water that those filters don't filter out the estrogens and stuff from the birth control pills. So that's another reason why our young men are starting to get feminized.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just found that out too.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. So it's leaching through and it's getting into the drinking water.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. And because so many women are using birth control pills now, it's actually becoming a big thing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow, that's crazy.
SPEAKER 07 :
So another reason to just ditch your municipal water supply and start filtering your water.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, those hydro flasks, I should have been using them years ago. Everyone was carrying them around.
SPEAKER 07 :
All of us, we didn't know, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we didn't know any better. It was an act of convenience. But now we find out that microplastics are serious business.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So we're going to take a quick break, and then when we come back, we'll talk about good sunscreen and bad screen since we're in the middle of summer. So you're listening to Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush, Health and Wellness Wednesday on Tuesday.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back, listeners. Hour two, we're in the middle of it, talking with Jeremy Sova, who is a patient of mine, who's a biohacker, been doing this for about five years now, was in poor shape, overweight. You were just a train wreck.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'd be embarrassed to show you the pictures.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. But on this journey, now you've got your biological age under what your chronologic age is.
SPEAKER 13 :
And my heart is three years younger than my biological age. So the heart's even younger than I am.
SPEAKER 07 :
So there is something to this. We can reverse the clock folks. Yep. Your regular doc has no idea about this. I promise you. But if you find somebody like James or myself, we can help you on that journey. whether it's a first baby step or whether you're an advanced biohacker like Jeremy is, wherever you're at, we can meet you there and make you even better.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep. It's incremental, right? Certain things, you'll kind of do it and forget it. Other things, you want to continue to build upon.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. So I promised the audience that we were going to talk about sunscreen. We're in the middle of summer, and I know everybody's going to the swimming pool, and the moms are taking this banana boat or pick your favorite sunscreen and slathering their kids up, thinking they're doing a great job. So let's talk about sunscreen.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, wondering why some kids are getting rashes and they're breaking out and they can take this kind of sunscreen, but not that kind. Well, I'm fair skin, so I burn. I always have. My kids do as well. So we kind of struggled with it for forever. And then now that I'm on this journey of not believing what big pharma is telling us in this medical industrial complex, I keep peeling back layers of the onion. And I found out there's sunscreen out there that's actually healthy for you, works, lasts longer, works better, better for the skin. So I'm using, it's actually edible. I mean, I've never physically put it into my mouth, but it says right on the bottle that you can because it's completely edible. And it's basically tallow, non-nano zinc oxide, beeswax, lecithin. And the stuff I use is by a company called Sky and Soul. I found it online. They ship it to the house, and I just load it up for a... vacation for the kids here in August. So I got plenty of it for all of us. It is a little bit more expensive than what you would see at, say, the grocery store or Target or Walmart. But it's on par with what you would pay kind of at the resort counter if you were in a gift shop at a resort paying that inflated price. So if you get it in bulk wholesale, it's actually not that bad. And what I found is you can put it on and it lasts one coat lasts like four and a half hours. My son and I can go play a full round of golf with one coat and never have to reapply, which for a golfer, it's great. Cause then your hands don't get, you know, all sticky and greasy when you have to reapply at the turn. Um, so that blew my mind. And then the fact that it smells great, it sits on the skin. Nice. It doesn't show like a white pasty film and it just works amazing, you know? So that's something that I just recently started in the last couple of months.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And that's fairly new. Um, before that, uh, instead of using the banana boats and whatever, um, I had switched to zinc because this is what I learned many years ago is that sunscreen, the standard stuff that you would buy at Target or wherever. it's actually a chemical reaction in the skin. So when the sun hits those chemicals, then that's where the blocking takes place. Remember, there's UV ultraviolet A and UVB rays. So the B rays, you can remember it because those are the ones that burn. So all of those do a fairly good job of covering that entire UVB spectrum. Every last one of them uses the same chemical to cover about 5% of the UVA spectrum. So 95% of the UVAs are still getting through. And you can remember the A by aging. So that's why you see somebody who's been out at the pool a lot. And it's like, man, your skin's getting wrinkly. You're not burning, but your skin is turning wrinkly. That's because the UVA rays are still getting through. And you're doing a lot of damage to your skin. And it's a chemical reaction.
SPEAKER 13 :
And the skin is the largest organ in the body.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. So that's when many years ago I had switched to the micronized zinc. Think of it as the windscreen that you put in your car on a hot summer day that reflects the rays back towards the sun so that your steering wheel and your dashboard don't get so hot and destroyed. So that's the principle behind using mineral-based sunscreens. But I like yours now, and I will seek it out, even though I've got olive-colored skin, just for that fact.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So moms out there and dads, if you want to keep your skin healthy and your kids, they don't need all these ultraviolet rays.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's exactly right. Now, if you look at the back of a normal thing, a sunscreen, there's like 10 chemicals you can't even pronounce.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 13 :
That in of itself tells me that it's dangerous.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, that goes to another point about vitamin D, though, because we are keeping ourselves from burning because we don't want melanoma and skin cancer. Then the rate of vitamin D deficiency has gone through the roof over 80 percent when we test folks are deficient on vitamin D. So you'll want to make sure that you're supplementing your vitamin D.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, which strengthens the T cells and would have prevented a lot of those comorbidity deaths during COVID because they found out in most autopsies that they were vitamin D deficient. And how do you know what your vitamin D is? You go get your blood checked to find out in your biomarkers.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the labs that's your regular doc in the box, he'll say, oh, you're at 30 or 35. That is normal. No, it is not. You need to be 65 to about 100. You get over 100, then you start having problems with calcium.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. I think 75 to 80 is a good sweet spot.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a sweet spot. That's exactly right. So little tidbit there.
SPEAKER 13 :
And it turns out my doc put me on 1,000 IUs, but it took 6,000 IUs to get to there. Everyone's different. I got people that can take 2,000 and get there. So you don't know until you know what your numbers are and you start to supplement for deficiency, not supplementing for the sake of supplementation.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. And if you do something, especially as a doctor to a patient, you need to retest to say, did my therapy work? not just, oh, I'll see you in a year. That's exactly right. Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
As if there was a way to track this stuff and be able to show it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, if only if. Let's talk about mitochondria health and the IVs.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep. So mitochondria, mitochondria, mitochondria, I think is what you said last time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct. That's exactly right. Well done.
SPEAKER 13 :
Everything is driven by what they call the Krebs cycle through the mitochondria wall and kicks out ATP, which is the energy in all the cells and all things. you need to really focus on mitochondrial health and getting rid of inflammation or what they call inflammation. Um, so what I do is, uh, and Vita, you mentioned at your clinic, who's, um, amazing. I think she's going off to med school soon. Um, we came up with what we call the Sova mito max, which is basically a mitochondrial health IV bag that also has additional minerals and vitamins that my particular body needs. Um, So basically it is something that I do every two weeks and it entails, is it lipo? One second here. Yeah, so alpha lipoic acid, which is something that pairs really well with CoQ10, and it's a really strong anti-inflammatory, antioxidant. Mixed with rosveritrol and curcumin, again, anti-inflammatory. Magnesium, B-complex, B12, glutathione. And then I add, for me personally, vitamin C, calcium, and zinc, because those are the things that my particular testing said that needed to be driven up. So twice a month, I get that done at your clinic. It's very affordable. Buy packages of them. And it gets me also very well hydrated. So if I go out and play golf in the summer sun or go out and push the body, I get that mitochondrial efficiency and that ATP production. specifically from that bag. So there's a lot of different IV choices, but that's the one that I've found to have the best impact for me. And again, that's because I did the research and found out what my body needed.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. And that's the difference between us and, say, a Prime or an Onus is they're a pre-made bag. They're not going to customize it. They don't think this stuff through. I use All Natural from Vertis' compounding pharmacy there in Scottsdale, Arizona. So we don't spare expenses. I could use cheaper stuff. But then you would notice it because when you would test yourself again, you'd say, wait a second. What's going on here? What's going on? I spent this money, but I'm not getting the results that I should be. Why? And that's because they looked at profit more than getting you healthy and using the right stuff.
SPEAKER 13 :
And then you'll find out over time that it would be a customer for life if you continue to help versus trying to nickel and dime them.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. But mitochondria, mitochondria, mitochondria. So for the listeners who are driving home, you remember kind of high school biology. I remember mitochondria, ATP, like Jeremy said. What is that? So in every cell, there is mitochondria. Think of mitochondria as a nuclear power plant. It is what gives you power and energy throughout the day. And they don't sleep. They're always on. Well, if you don't have the proper nutrients to make them healthy, then your nuclear power plants are actually going to come offline. And they will not function. So then you feel sluggish. You feel tired the whole nine yards. So you must feed your mitochondria. the proper nutrients so that they're optimized. So if you have, let's say a brain cell has the most, a neuron has the most mitochondria in a cell, up to 2,500 mitochondria in one cell. And if you're functioning at say a thousand, well, your brain isn't going to be working well. You're going to feel foggy. You're not going to recall things like you could or should. Well, when you give your body the resveratrol, the alpha lipoic acid, the NAD+, the glutathione, those supplements, now you've given it everything that he needs to fire back up. And when he does, that's when you start saying, I haven't felt this good since I was in my 20s.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. So if nothing else, make sure your mitochondria health is optimized, whether it's through IV. The nice thing about the IV is it bypasses the gut.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And let's face it, our nutritional food supply in America sucks. It's deficient.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you have to do something to augment that, whether it's taking supplements. But again, you've got your gut and something called the first pass effect. That's where you take something. It gets absorbed through the intestinal lining. It goes up through the hepatic portal vein to your liver. And your liver's job is to metabolize things. And it does a very good job of doing it, especially things like NAD, which is a coenzyme to your mitochondria. Well, you can take oral NAD, but you are wasting your time and your money because so little gets through that you're like, oh, well, okay, I didn't feel a whole lot. But I promise you, come into the clinic and we give you an injection of NAD and it bypasses the gut. And when those mitochondria wake up, you'll know it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, similar to the water, right? Like hydrogen water is not as good as ozone water. I would say that obviously the NAD plus and some other injections are much, much better, but there is a liposomal option where you basically package. these fat-like spheres called liposomes and phospholipids, and it helps with bioabsorption. So it doesn't quite get eaten up by the stomach as if it wasn't liposomal. So if you can't get the shot, like, cause I do both, right? Like when I can get the shot, I do. If I can't, I'm making sure, you know, the NMN or the NAD plus and the glutathione is a liposomal version. So, again, not quite good. But if you're in a pinch, right, you're on the road, I can't come to you because, you know, I'm in Vegas or something. I'll take the liposomal version because at least some of it will get through and not get eaten up by the GI tract.
SPEAKER 07 :
Fantastic. Thank you for that, Jeremy. So we're going to take another break and then we'll finish out the top of the hour talking about sleep and exercise. You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush on this Tuesday Health and Wellness Wednesday.
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This is TJ with KLZ Radio, and I've got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial here in the studio with me. Al and I were just talking about how in retirement he helps his clients to stretch the time in their retirement. Al, what do you mean by that? Tell us a little bit more about how time works in retirement.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, when you think about leaving the working world, you think about, well, it's still going to take money to live on once I'm retired. And that nest egg, whatever that is, that's going to permit you to do what you want to do with the time that you have sort of earned for yourself. So the nest egg is not only in dollars, but it's also in the time that you have to do the things that you believe will be fulfilling in retirement. And when I have a conversation with people, I think it's equally important to think about how they're going to be spending their time as it is to accumulate a nest egg.
SPEAKER 14 :
You've got to have some pretty good examples of things that people do in retirement. So open the door for us. What sort of things can we expect?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, sure. I have one gentleman who is very much into aviation. He owns his own small plane. He actually works on that small plane. He's within a few years of retirement. He's retirement age. But right now, while he's working, he takes his small aircraft, flies to locations where he investigates air disasters. I also have some people who spend a lot of time with their grandkids, some of whom live nearby and some are a little farther away. I have some who are incredibly involved with their churches and go on missionary trips and so forth.
SPEAKER 14 :
How do people get in touch with you if they want to stretch that time out in their retirement?
SPEAKER 03 :
They can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if they're driving when they hear this, you can contact KLZ and they'll put them in touch with me.
SPEAKER 14 :
Of course, as always, you can find Golden Eagle Financial on klzradio.com slash advertisers and get right in touch with Al if you're driving and can't write that number down. Al, thank you so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're welcome.
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Listen online, klzradio.com. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott filling in for John on this Health and Wellness Wednesday. On Tuesday, before 4th of July, Jeremy Soma is a patient slash friend guest who is an expert biohacker. I guess I could say you're an expert after five years.
SPEAKER 13 :
I hope so. I like to call myself an intelligent aging expert. There you go. And you're never going to reverse it completely, but you can do it smartly. That's right. As you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so for the last almost two hours, we've been talking about what can you do as a lay person to help yourself along this journey, whether it's your first step or you're going to take this information to a doctor or you've been doing it for a long time. Maybe we'll teach you something new that you didn't know. We've covered a lot of ground. We're not going to rehash that. Please go back and listen tonight when this is posted on Rush to Reason. But we want to talk about tracking devices because there's a lot of them coming out now. So, Jeremy, what's the skinny on tracking devices?
SPEAKER 13 :
So looked at all of them, um, decided that the aura O U R a aura ring 4.0 was the best one for my overall health. Um, there's the whoop band, there's the apple watch. There's a couple of them out there and they're more focused on fitness and do have a lot of the same things that aura does. But I think aura is like the Maserati of the choices. And I just found out from a military friend that the federal government has now signed a contract to give them to all of our troops. So that should tell you that they're pretty good. So I've had it on for the better part of three weeks now. And what I've learned on a daily basis about all things sleep, exercise, heart health, metabolic health, have really opened my eyes to kind of take an even deeper dive than I already have. And I mentioned earlier I had a glucose monitor on. I ended up getting the Stelo, S-T-E-L-O, that you mentioned last time we were together. Turns out they have a contract with Aura so you can order them together. And I think the Aura application... It's actually better than Stello's. So when you get them working together, the aura overlays the glucose stuff across everything, your meals, your exercise, your sleep, and it shows graphs and patterns of how they work together versus just watching glucose spikes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
So the Oura Ring, I think, is incredible. It starts with readiness, so it kind of tells you what you can handle for this day or this coming day, and using all of your different markers of your sleep quality. Did you get enough deep sleep? Did you get enough REM sleep? What was your sleep latency, meaning how long did it take you to fall asleep? What was your heart rate variability? What was your blood oxygen level for the night? And it all works together on a simple app on your phone. And it graphs everything. And it has an AI bot that basically learns you with you and the app. And it talks to you and tells you little things like, you know, this glucose spike happened at 1.16 p.m. Maybe you should take a walk. And you find out you walked the dog for 10 minutes after you have that ice cream. And all of a sudden, your glucose drops back down into the normal levels. versus if I just wouldn't have sat on the couch and turned on Netflix, the spike would have stayed up and extended, which is dangerous for your metabolic health. So those types of things. But I've learned so much about my sleep. I found out that just because I put the phone down 30 minutes before bed and then I fall asleep and then I wake up in the morning, I called that eight hours, but turns out it was only like six hours and 45 minutes when you look at the data. So that means I need to shut it down earlier because you really need to get eight to nine hours of sleep each night, which is almost impossible in our society, to maximize the benefits of sleep. But sleep is extremely important, like we'll talk about in a bit. So get a tracking device. Again, I don't work for Aura. I think the Whoop band is great too. I just think if you're over 40 and you're looking at all things overall health, like we're talking about here in biohacking, The aura does it all. So I think everybody should have one. I'm going to buy them for all my family members. They're going to be Christmas gifts to friends and family, along with instructions on how to optimize them. Because it took me a good three weeks to learn all the functionality. And I still have a few weeks to go before it tells me about my chronotype and my complete... VO2 max health and my full cardiovascular aging health and my resilience. There's so many things it's learning about me over time that I'll continue to optimize, I guess is the word I'll use.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And you were talking during the break how this technology is probably not the first thing you want to jump into, but especially if you're a hypochondriac or you have anxiety at baseline. Tell why. That's right.
SPEAKER 13 :
So you're going to see some pretty freaky stuff. Like I went to Las Vegas for my wife's birthday, and we went, and we were drinking, and we only had four hours of sleep, and we saw a Vegas show. And I'd been pretty much perfect up until this point with my health and wellness. And Aura does not like Las Vegas. Let me just say that. The numbers plummeted big time. Heart rate variability came down 60 points. My resilience was terrible. My stress markers went up from the lack of sleep and whatnot. So I almost wish that I would have left it at home. Um, but I'm glad that I didn't cause now that I know everything came back, I'm back to healthy again, but it really showed me that this normal, you know, work Monday through Friday and eat right and exercise and then party on the weekends. You're really taking about 10 steps backwards when you do that party on the weekends thing because these, um, um, These lifestyle habits that you have are doing a lot more damage than you really realize they're doing. So make sure you kind of get everything in order first and then start to move into the tracking because it can be pretty overwhelming when you see some of the bad news. But the good news is the body is very resilient and they come back if you're healthy. but it really opens your eyes. Well, maybe next time I'll get eight hours of sleep or I'll have a few, few less drinks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Fantastic. Well, since we have about four minutes left before we go to a break, let's talk about sleep. Let's do a deeper dive, um, on exactly what does that look like? Cause most people, well, that used to be one of my subspecialties is sleep medicine. Um, Their sleep just sucks.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, definitely. Well, you take it for granted. Even our president only, President Trump gets three or four hours a night. Luckily, he's got good genotypes and he's on a God's given mission to fix the country. But that's very unhealthy. Right. We find out that sleep can wreck everything else. It can wreck the exercise, wreck the nutrition, and wreck your emotional health, which are the other three things that will kill you. So what I've found is don't eat food two hours before you go to bed. Get eight hours of sleep minimum. For me, I stop eating at 7.30 and I try to be asleep by 9.30 most of the time, 80% of the time. And Aura loves that. No phone 30 minutes before, shut it down, turn it off, no more emails, no more text messages. Get the room as dark as possible. Close the blinds. If you've got to use clips, like those little clips for paper, make it as dark as humanly possible and make sure the room is set up so you're not in a dangerous position if you have to get up. The Oura Ring glows just enough at night that you can use it to move around in the dark if you need to get up and use the restroom or whatnot. Make sleep a priority in your life, regardless what your boss is saying, regardless what your spouse needs or your kids need. You're going to be your best version of you for all of them, including your boss, if you get the sleep that you need and you have to make it number one priority. It feeds everything else. And track your latency. How long does it take you to fall asleep? Find out how much deep sleep you're getting. Are you getting enough REM sleep? Are you dreaming? What's your heart rate where you're sleeping? What's the variability throughout the night? These are all important things that are going to help drive us into all the stuff we're going to talk about next.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And especially for you ladies, when you get perimenopausal, when your hormones are... messing with your brain, your sleep is horrible. And oftentimes it's a lack of progesterone. If you went to a regular doctor, what is he going to do? He's going to give you a prescription for Ambien or some other sleeping agent. He's not going to think this thing through and say, wait a second, maybe we should look at what else is going on in your life and in your body. Those are the biomarkers, the hormones that have to be tested because if they're off, they're absolutely critical. And so you need a doctor like myself or James and his brother who can help sort this out and not just throw a pill at you.
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Yes. So we're going to take another break. We're at the top or bottom of the hour. No, this is the top of the hour. So we have to break. And we'll be back for hour three shortly. You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner for John Rush 560 KLZ.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott, last and final hour, Health and Wellness Wednesday on Tuesday, right before Fourth of July. I have my friend, patient, guru, what?
SPEAKER 08 :
Anti-aging biohacker.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. Intelligent aging biohacker. Jeremy Sova here in the studio with me. James Flatting had to go to his son's football game. If you want to ask Jeremy a question or even myself, 303-477-5600. I know I didn't give it out earlier because we've got so much information to try and get through. And it's going to take this full three hours to really... hone in on giving you that roadmap to better health, better longevity. But if you have a specific question, we'll gladly take it. Jeremy loves questions. But we're going to continue. So those who are driving, if you've just come in, we're giving you that plan. When you get home after this is posted tonight on Rush to Reason, go back, start from the beginning, take a piece of paper and a pen and start to write down these things Because there's a lot of information that we can't go back and cover again. We're going to just keep blazing forward because we've only got one more hour. And you gave me basically war and peace here of information to go through. cherry picking the things that you as a person need to know, things that you can do. And at the very end, we're going to tell you based on your budget, kind of what should come first, second, third, in that kind of an order. So let's not waste any more time. Let's jump into exercise now, Jeremy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. So sleep, exercise, nutritional biochemistry, and stress management are how you attack all four of those horsemen. So now we're on to exercise. Building muscle throughout your life and VO2 max. If there's only two things you should focus on to improve your health span and longevity, it's those two things. Start by choosing the five most important activities you want to do until you die. Um, minor golf, skiing, sex, driving, and my workouts call that my centenarian decathlon. I'm a hundred years old. I want to be able to do all five of those things. How do I do that? It's important to start with the basics, right? Stability and grip strength are foundational. Babies can squat perfectly. And then they grow up, put on shoes, lose core stability and balance, you know, same thing. Like get yourself a trainer, even if it's a short period of time to learn this stuff. Start with your core stability, basically movements without weights, right? Body weight stuff. Do a squat correctly. Do lunges correctly. Grip strength training. Being able to squeeze something with a lot of power is a telltale sign of how long you're going to live. Even Dana White was just given a grip strength monitor as he was walking by the crowd the other night. He squeezed it. It was like 77 pounds. He was like, I can do better. you know, so these are important things. Um, so basically find a trainer to work with a couple of days a week, someone that's going to hold you accountable. They're going to teach you the right movements and then they're going to make you do them. And then all of a sudden you're going to get addicted to feeling better. You're going to start to build some muscle. Maybe you offset, you know, some of the muscle loss that you get from these GLP ones that were, that we're taking to help lose weight and improve our metabolic and brain health. You know, avoid the sarcopenia, which is when your muscles are degrading over time. Add supplements to help with your muscles like creatine and HMB. You know, do something that's, you know, basically, you know, easy to do. This Oura ring that I have, I can walk six minutes at full speed in a straight line and it'll tell me my VO2 max. And I can do it every month and track it. It's not exactly like putting the machinery on and doing it in a lab, but it's close enough. I've done both. It's definitely close enough. So VO2 max is basically pushing yourself as hard as you possibly can for a short period of time. Some people call it high intensity interval training. where you go really hard for a few minutes and then you slow down for a minute. But VO2 Max is pushing yourself the absolute most that you can go. And you get that number. Look online against all the other people in your age group and see how healthy you are. And you can push that number up over time. And there's people 90, 100 years old that have a better VO2 Max than you and I do because they work on it. So I do want to give a plug to my trainer and his wife, Jason and Abby at New Fit and Fuel. Website is coachingwithabby, A-B-B-Y, coachingwithabby.com. And they can kind of do all things nutrition, foundational workouts, strength training. They work with athletes, kind of a full gamut. They're in Parker, done a great job for me personally. So I wanted to basically give them a shout out. Sure. Um, but exercise, everyone's like, Oh yeah, exercise, exercise, do things that are smart. Don't hurt yourself. Don't go lift a bunch of heavy weights and not know what you're doing. Like get someone that can help you and eventually you can take it on yourself. But, um, best thing I own is a gym membership at a fitness center that I'm in five days a week. It's really changed my life without exercise and this other stuff would work.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yeah. And proper mechanics is so important because I work out down in my basement. I have both free weights and a universal machine. And I just got my Carol bike for my birthday. Nice. So I'm stoked. I just put it together. So I can't wait to get my VO2 Max even better than it is now. But I bench pressed it. And it's kind of that guy ego thing. I pushed it a little harder than I should have. Sure. And I felt my left shoulder just a little tweak. I'm like, well, that's nothing. And I did probably another four reps in that set. And that set that shoulder back three months.
SPEAKER 08 :
There you go. Yep. Probably a small labrum tear or something.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because I did not listen to my body. I knew better. And I was actually using the machine because I didn't have anybody to spot me. Right. But even with the machine being a dummy, not listening to my body, I set myself back. So it is so important, mechanics, mechanics, and listen to your body. If something's off… don't do it or back off.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I mean, I would say go full three months with just body weight.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Don't even use weights. Get all the movements down perfectly with your own body weight.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then once you got the movement down, there's some muscle memory there. You can start to layer on the weights and if you want to bulk up, that's fine. But there's so many setbacks from people that hit things too hard in the gym.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And you don't have to go fast. And I don't spend two hours down in my basement anymore like I used to. When I was younger, I'm in there for 10, 15 minutes. I'm doing the big muscles, bench press, military press for the tris and the pecs and everything. This morning, I did the rows for the lats, reverse curls for the biceps, brachioradialis, and then the shoulder shrugs. But I'm not spending two hours, folks, and I'm feeling pretty good. Okay, looking great. Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would say 45 minutes tops.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, because you're going to have a lot more time that you need to spend on kind of that cardio VO2 max health as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, but resistance training, you can knock out a really good workout in 45 minutes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And for those of you who are either with me in my clinic on the GLPs, right, the semaglutide, the turzotide, the retitutides, you know, So there's a possibility of losing some muscle mass. So yes, you have to get the proper protein amount and you have to do some resistance training. You can't let the drug do all the work because you're going to lose some muscle.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, tear the muscle and feed it with protein.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's it. Okay. So this is a great time to take a break. We're at about 5.14, 5.15. We'll take a break, and then we'll come back and we'll continue this. Great. So you're listening to Dr. Scott Filena for John Rush on this Health and Wellness Wednesday on Tuesday.
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott and Jeremy filling in for John on this Tuesday. We got a lot of more information to get through. I want to give you as much as possible to chew on to help yourselves get healthy as possible. So we're going to just keep moving forward. Let's talk about nutritional biochemistry.
SPEAKER 08 :
Nice. So nutrition is the easy way to say it, but nutritional biochemistry also counts. The supplements and any medications you're taking is pretty much anything that you put between your lips is going to fall into this bucket with food being the most, most fun. Um, so the first thing I'm going to say is a lot of people in this space are trying to get away from pharmaceutical drugs entirely, which I think is a little naive. Like, uh, for instance, the GLP ones are a perfect example of that. Like if, if you're trying to do everything naturally without assistance from a doc, it's you're not going to get the same results. So a lot of folks are like, oh, I'm not going to take any drugs. So there's some good ones. There's some bad ones. There's some that depends, right, on your own body. So we've got to figure those out with the stuff that we talked earlier and getting your biomarkers. But they can add decades to your health span and longevity.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we talked about Zeti at the very beginning when we first started out, right? Right, exactly. That's a cholesterol-lowering medicine, but it doesn't inhibit the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins and minerals. So that's a good thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. So if you can't lower your lipid profile naturally, then you may need some pharmaceuticals to do it. But it's better to get it done, even if you've got to take a couple of drugs once in a while. Yeah. When it comes to diet and nutrition, I'm going to try to make this pretty easy. 80-20 rule, right? 80% of the time, try to be perfect. And 20% of the time, live your life, right? And what does perfect mean? Well, the data shows that it's what they're calling the Mediterranean diet.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mm-hmm. Though we've known that for 25 years.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Yeah. Yeah. So we heard all the different fads over the period of time. But that's the Mediterranean diet's the way to go. Eat extra virgin olive oil every day. I take a four-tablespoon shot every morning with my vitamins to start the day. Fat-soluble, good, healthy, good, clean fat. Find a combination that you like. Google Mediterranean diet and just go through and pick out the fishes that you like and the vegetables that you like and the fruits that you like. and try to stick to that 80% of the time. Um, and other 20%, like I said, eat the steak, eat the pizza, eat the pasta, have the ice cream, you know, have your glucose monitor on. So you know when to do it. For instance, I've learned that for me to eat these foods, it's better to do it right before I exercise. And then the exercise actually keeps me from spiking the glucose. Um, But if I eat after I exercise and say go watch a movie or something, I see the glucose spiking. So when I eat the bad foods, I do it before I work out. So that's kind of the cheat code there. Eliminate alcohol from your life if you can. It's very hard, everybody. There's a lot of things that we've learned to adapt to over the course of our lives, and alcohol plays a big part of it, particularly socially. try to keep it to the vacations right try to keep it to the four-day weekends or to the to the vacations but don't drink alcohol daily it's doing so much harm for your body and we're learning how much more harm and luckily the kids now the gen z-ers are spending a third of the amount of money on alcohol than three previous generations so i don't know if that's happening organically but it's a good trend and i hope it continues because alcohol is very very bad for the body
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and a lot of these microbreweries now, especially if you're a beer drinker, like I will get, especially in the summertime, I just have a craving for a beer. Hot day, cold beer. I'll buy like a six-pack, and at the end of the summer, I'm throwing three of them away because they got skunky on me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
But every once in a while on a hot day, it's like, man, that would taste good. Well, I found some of these microbreweries are making great non-alcoholic beers. That's right. They taste the same. That's exactly right. It's not like decaf coffee where you know you get decaf and I love coffee. And by the way, there's never been a study that shows caffeine is bad for you or even coffee. It's actually good for you. It's good for you. Decreases colon cancer and things like that. So keep drinking your coffee, folks. Not that gross stuff from Starbucks with all the sugar and whatnot. That's not real coffee. But these non-alcoholic beers are really good. Or you can make like a fake margarita.
SPEAKER 08 :
They call them mocktails.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, mocktails.
SPEAKER 08 :
And a lot of restaurants have them on the menu now, and they're very tasty. So you can actually order one.
SPEAKER 04 :
and be social and not feel the stigma that you're not joining in on the group yeah there's no alcohol in there yeah and so what we'll do is we'll take uh you know some oranges and limes and make it a citrus one or sometimes we'll take watermelon and grind it up blend it up and make that a margarita and so you don't have to have alcohol because you're right it will wreck your body
SPEAKER 08 :
If you must indulge, keep it to two or three drinks max and end it there. Don't go on those binges because if you start tracking like I'm doing, you'll see how bad it can really be.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, and then you want to talk about protein because we're talking nutritional biochemistry.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. So protein, try to get one gram of protein for every pound of your body weight. I weigh 172 pounds. I try to take in 172 grams of protein every day. It includes breakfast, lunch, a shake and dinner to get to those numbers. And I also put a total body amino acid mix, vanilla flavored into my black coffee in the morning, which gives me about 30 grams of protein, but it's the building block, the amino acid building blocks that, that help my muscles optimize the protein. And then I take creatine afterwards. So protein is very important, especially if you're on a GLP-1. I know we've covered this before, but you're going to lose muscle. You'll lose much less muscle if you're resistance training and you're getting your protein and get it from all different sources. Get it from cottage cheese, the casein protein. Get it from polyphenol plant-based proteins. Maybe some weight, maybe some animal protein, but mix it up and just make sure you're getting that much because science shows that's how you're going to optimize things. And then creatine after the workout is two and a half times more effective than before.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, and as the doctor in the room, make sure your kidney function is okay before you start taking creatine because if your kidneys are not healthy and you add creatine and you're dehydrated, you're putting gasoline on a wildfire. So when you're getting those biomarkers, right, you're starting this journey, you'll want to get those. And if your kidney function is healthy and you're staying hydrated, go for it.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it looks like 5 grams is the right amount because there's no science that shows over 5 grams has any more benefit. Some people, like Rory McIlroy says he takes 10. The science is showing me that 5 is kind of the safe zone after the workout, whether you get it for a liposomal or a powder form. But, yeah, kidney function is – we would know that because we went back and we checked our biomarkers before we decided to take the creatine.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. Good for you. And then what about supplements, vitamins, minerals –
SPEAKER 08 :
First, no sugary drinks whatsoever. Cut them out of your life entirely. Refined sugars and drinks is the number one easy way to basically take this metabolic syndrome issue to the next level. Cut the sugary drinks out. And try to fast for a minimum of 12 hours. I do 16. But let the body digest, recoup, do all the things to help you sleep. So fasting 12 to 16 hours a day I think is...
SPEAKER 04 :
pretty helpful based on everything that i've learned so far yeah and it sounds tough but you think about it if you stop eating around 7 30 then you eat at 7 30 in the morning that's it right that's a 12 hour fast right there like oh so and we call that an intermittent fast or maybe you start at 9 a.m right so now you've tacked a couple hours on it but your body will thank you for that
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so I'll put the amino protein mix in the black coffee, and it doesn't break my fast. So I get 26 grams of protein while I'm still fasting, which means I don't actually have to have breakfast until 10, 30, or 11.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and where do you get that blend? I don't know where you get it from.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think it's Total Body is the name of the company. Yeah. Gary Brekka is I think their head spokesperson right now. So if you Google Gary Brekka total protein, you will get to the company and they're like big blue tubs that have different flavors and it's a powder. You put one scoop, mix it in the black coffee, mix it with 15 milligrams of methylene blue drops too, which we can talk about in a few.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. So we'll be talking about methylene blue and rapamycin before we close out. Extra virgin olive oil. Are you a fan of single source or the stuff you can buy at Costco and Sam's that has like five different countries that they threw their olive oil in?
SPEAKER 08 :
So now I'll give blueprint plug, Brian Johnson. I use his, it's called snake oil because he's got the best extra virgin olive oil based on the numbers that we've looked at of anyone on the market. And it's part of his sales pitch. Um, but that's the stuff I use now. I used to get the expensive stuff just from the grocery store. Um, but since I've been biohacking, I learned if I'm going to drink extra virgin olive oil every day, let's get the best stuff possible.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
So it's called snake oil by blueprint is what I use.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I love extra virgin olive oil.
SPEAKER 08 :
In the beginning, I didn't like it, but now I crave it. It's amazing how your body adapts to things like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and if you're cooking, use things that are high heat tolerant, right? The avocado oils, the walnut oils, things like that. Ghee, ghee butter. Exactly. So little subtle changes in your cooking habits will pay big dividends.
SPEAKER 08 :
Take the vegetable oil in your house and go throw it away right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, if it says canola, sunflower, anything like that, just pitch it. Don't even give it to – goodwill or whatever.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, just throw it away.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And don't ever buy it again.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. Let's talk, we've got about four minutes before our next break, inflammation and mitochondria health. I know we talked about it briefly, but people are writing this stuff down. So what about inflammation and mitochondria health?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so try to eliminate inflammation from your life and your body and focus on powering the mitochondria in your body. And it's going to take some blood work to figure out where the inflammation is. And we'll talk a little bit about some cool toys that you have, Doc, that I've used to basically eliminate inflammation from my body below all detectable marks or detectable levels. So Google it. Look how to reduce inflammation. There's a lot of ways to do it. Exercise, food, sleep. Some of the cool toys we're going to talk about. They call it inflammation because inflammation is really the root of all diseases is what we're finding. So you got to get rid of that inflammation and then drive that mitochondria machine, that ATP machine that you talked about and use AI. It will help you achieve this within your budget and what fits your particular lifestyle. But that's what started my journey was really high inflammation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And now I have barely any.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So let's do this. Let's take a break now. It's a little bit early, but that's going to give us enough time to talk about all the cool toys and whatnot, and then we'll make sure that people who are on a budget, we'll give them a blueprint of what can they do to start this journey to close everything out. Perfect. So you're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner, filling in for John Rush, 560-KLZ, and we'll be right back.
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All right, welcome back listeners. Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush, my guest Jeremy Sova. We're talking about kind of his journey over the last five years of biohacking, how he was in horrible shape and now he looks incredible. He feels incredible and we actually have biomarkers and labs that we can prove that he's actually reversed his biological age versus his chronological age. So we're giving you the blueprint. At the very end, the last few minutes, we promise you we will give you basically a blueprint of what you can do based on your budget. That's right. But right now we're doing deeper dives on all the specific things. So I want to talk about some of the cool things, right, the HBOTs of the world, the stem cells of the world, things that I'm doing in my clinic. So things that you're doing right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so let's start with this Bethylene Blue everyone's talking about. Okay. You can talk more about it, but it sounds to me like it powers the mitochondria. It's very good for cognitive function. It's helping me with my energy. I put it in my coffee every morning. It's 15 milligrams. It makes your pee green.
SPEAKER 04 :
Blue and yellow make green.
SPEAKER 08 :
So I think that's an important what we can call in the drug or supplement category that everybody should be doing. And then rapamycin, which is we talked a little bit about it last time. Right. And it's basically a drug that was used for organs to be able to take an organ transplant. And they're finding out now that it has profound effects on longevity and it helps you anti-age. And I've been on it for about a year and a half now. I'm at the maintenance dose. I started at one milligram, two, three, four. It took months to get here. Now I'm at 6.6 milligrams. I take it for a month, and then I take a month off, and it works. You have to slowly titrate up to make sure you don't attack what they call mTOR C2, which is a mammalian target of rapamycin, mTOR. Um, so you don't want to go up and take a bunch of this stuff. You know, you want to start at one milligram, take it once a week, four weeks, take a break, increase it to two once a week, four weeks, take a break until you get to 6.6 and then you're on the maintenance dose. And I've been so impressed with it that I've now got my veterinarian giving it to my dog. So my dog is on three milligrams, one milligram every other day, Monday through Friday weekends off. Um, And I've already seen her start to turn around in a couple of weeks. So rapamycin, you have to get it from your doctor. It's a prescription. I know you got a really good source of it, as do I. So that's something that everyone, I think, should really explore. But just be careful. Follow your doctor's protocol. And the compound pharmacy that you get it from will also give you the protocol. But don't think more is better. Correct. Follow the protocol.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. And we're actually going to start carrying it where we can actually fill it for folks. Excellent. So that they're doing it right because there are some places out there. I've seen some sketchy things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Anytime there's something that works, there's a bunch of bad actors that come in behind.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly. So I should be carrying that very soon, and you know that the quality is going to be top notch. I didn't used to carry a lot of the supplements and things like that because I didn't want to be looked at as somebody who was – pushing stuff on my patients but now i've seen enough of the bad actors out there that i think it's worth it for me to do that research to find the top-notch stuff and so just like the glp ones right i never cut corners on the semaglutide the terzeptide the retitutide right um all the you call them the toys in my office right the hbot i got the top of the line the red light bit i got the top of the line the spectra 10 It's a $75,000 bed. It's not the little panel that they have at Planet Fitness. And you say, ooh, I'm doing red light. No, you're not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you mentioned HBOT there. I've started it with myself and my son.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we have to define what HBOT is because a lot of people don't know what HBOT is.
SPEAKER 08 :
HBOT is hypobaric oxygen therapy. And it's an oxygen chamber. that basically you're breathing in pure oxygen for 30, 60, 90 minutes at a time. And they'd been using it for years for burn patients and maybe some brain injury. But now we're finding, from a biohacker's perspective, that it has incredible benefits for anti-aging. And we talked about Brian Johnson from Blueprint, the don't-die guy on Netflix, I call him. He just completed his dive, or series of dives, pun intended, into the h-bot world right and these are called dives because it came out of the scuba diving world right so you're going and they call them atas atmosphere absolute absolutely so i go the equivalent of down 33 feet underwater in your h-bot for 90 minutes pressure is 2.0 20 minutes of oxygen five minute break and i repeat it And you do 60 sessions over 90 days is kind of the start to clean your body out before you get to maintenance. And the results are phenomenal. We found that it's wiping out all systemic inflammation of the body below detectable levels. It's wild. 300% increase in the formation of new blood vessels. Tell me that's not good for someone that lives at 7,000 feet. Telomeres, we talk about the shoelaces on the end of your DNA chromosomes. It extends those and gives you the telomerase activity of like a 12-year-old if you associate it with biological age. 290% increase in short-chain fatty acids and N-butyrate. which is an important microbiome biomarker in your gut. 29% reduction in dementia markers. Complete elimination of metabolic imbalance in the gut. It adds muscle oxygenation. You know, the muscles we're talking about, they need oxygen. Dramatic improvements to whole body skin health. Again, the largest organ in the body is your skin. I just thought I was going to help my kid with a couple of hockey concussions and come to find out that... You know, it's not cheap, but it's probably the most profound modality that you can go use at your clinic for all the things that we're talking about here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And why wait till you get dementia? Because remember, I started in the first hour, I talked about my sister-in-law. who came out from Massachusetts who had dementia. We put her on the HBOT machine for three weeks. She did two dives a day because you have to have about a four-hour break if you're going to stack them. You have to have about that four-hour break between dives. And it changed her life, turned her around. But why wait until you have dementia? Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. It's preventative. Correct. That's what I'm using it for. I consider myself right now to be pretty healthy. But I'm excited about going through this probably for the rest of my life.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And you, rightly so, as a parent, you saw your son had some TBIs, right? That stands for traumatic brain injury. He's a kid. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Playing hockey.
SPEAKER 04 :
Full contact hockey. Lights out two times. So these kids that are playing soccer, these girls, you don't think, oh, girls, they're not hitting hard or whatever. That's soccer ball off their skull, right? Because they're all heading it, and they want to be the next, I don't know, what's a famous female soccer star? Because I don't watch soccer. It's boring to me, but...
SPEAKER 08 :
Megan Rapinoe, I think, even though I don't like her politics.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yeah, that one. So, I mean, maybe that's what her problem is. Maybe she's had too many TVIs from the soccer ball. We throw her into a hyperbaric chamber and she becomes a conservative.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think it's TDS, not TBI.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's right. So that's just one of the modalities we have in our clinic that most places don't. I can promise you if you go to your regular doctor and you talk to them about hyperbaric, they're going to say, hyper what? And say, oh, no, that's in the scuba diving world or that's for carbon monoxide poisoning or wounds that don't heal. But it goes back to exactly what you said, that increase in blood vessels Right? That's right. With VGAF, if you have new blood vessels, capillaries, more red blood cells, more oxygen, tissues heal. That's right. So that's the whole principle behind it and why 20 minutes on with oxygen and five minutes off. There's something called the hyperoxia-hypoxia paradox. We're tricking your brain is what we're doing. Same sort of thing with cryotherapy. In that, we're tricking your brain and thinking you're going into hypothermia, and that's when you get the endorphin dump. The Japanese figured this out in the 1970s. With hyperbaric, they figured out this hyperoxia because you're breathing 95% to 100% oxygen. Then when you take the mask off in the chamber, you're still at 21 percent atmospheric air. We're all breathing 21 percent right now.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
But your brain is tricked into thinking, oh, my gosh, I'm starving for oxygen here. And then you get this massive healing power from your brain. And that's how it works.
SPEAKER 08 :
I've been in it six times, and my resting heart rate is down 12 beats per minute.
SPEAKER 04 :
Isn't that amazing?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's mind-blowing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, the way God made us, it's absolutely fascinating. So that's one modality. Let's also talk about the HOCAT.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. So it's hyperthermic ozone carbonic acid transdermal therapy, SANA. So I get into this sauna goes up to my neck and it's similar to a dry sauna as far as like extreme heat, but it infuses, um, carbonic acid and ozone and even some carbon dioxide and different, um, frequency mod, uh, specific frequencies to help with different ailments. Mine's low back pain and the benefits that I get once a week in this thing that really helped bolster my immune system and detoxify the body. And I've also found out that it gives me oxygen while working out because it drives my heart rate up to zone 5, which is about 170 beats per minute. And it gets pretty intense in there, I'm not going to lie. It takes some getting used to. I would definitely work your way up. But it's like a full-blown VO2 max workout while I'm on oxygen. while detoxifying the body and bolstering my immune system and here we are five weeks later i still haven't been sick yeah it's um so i do it once a week and i pair it with ozone water that i drink right afterwards then i get into the cryo chamber to cool my body down and then once i'm cool then i go into the red light bed which helps reduce the inflammation and power the mitochondria yeah and the red light bed is what repairs mitochondria it does a lot of other things
SPEAKER 04 :
So in our office, we have something called the Spectra 10. And why 10? Because it has 10 different wavelengths. So red light, it comes in red and near infrared. A lot of the panels that you see, all of them come out of China, except for The Spectra 10 is made in the United States. Most of those have a quarter watt of bulb, and you're lucky if you get two or three wavelengths. Ours has 10 wavelengths. I love turning it on for folks who've said they've done red light before because once they see mine, they're like, oh, that's a real red light bed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And you got to be careful because you look on the wall and you see all the different wavelengths and you're like, well, why would I choose, you know, ones that don't have all the other wavelengths like the wellness one does. And then you dig deeper and you find out that it's about the power of each of those wavelengths that it gives you. Like for instance, I had some back acne from the testosterone treatments. So I decided to go a week with your blue light acne setting, cleared it right up. So then I went back to the performance and the pain and the wellness. So it's an amazing tool.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I'm addicted to the red light bed. It takes 15 minutes, and you're in and you're out, but it's amazing how well you feel, how you recover, your performance is better. I'll even say this.
SPEAKER 08 :
There was one in the spa in Vegas that was half the price of yours and only had a couple of wavelengths, and I wanted to try it as an add-on to the couple's massage that the wife and I had, and it cured my hangover from the day before. I didn't know that red light could do that. I thought it was the IV and the hocket. But just 20 minutes in a bad red light bed changed my day for the better.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if you can only go to Planet Fitness and do their little cheesy one on the wall, then that's better than nothing. Or I know a lot of people are buying the ones for their face. It's like a helmet. Again, that's better than nothing. But if you're going to spend the money, you might as well get the best of the best. And so that's part of that HSA program or even your FSA if that's what you've got. And maximizing your dollars to get the best bang for your buck so that's the best way i could say it um we're going to talk about peptides so before we go to break let's hit peptides okay and then we'll bring it home with what can people do at their price point to maximize their health
SPEAKER 08 :
Definitely. So peptides, it's really a new way to kind of maximize all these things and add like rocket fuel. Just like the GLP-1, it's a glucagon-like peptide. There's a lot of peptides do a lot of things. You can look at your website and see the whole host of them. The ones I use, I use, it's called BPC-157, which they call the Wolverine peptide. And it actually helps me repair tears, tissues issues, ligaments, tendons. It fixed the torn labrum in my shoulder. And I pair it with TB 500, which enhances the BPC 157. And these are some long technical names. I'm giving you the easy ones to look up. So BPC Billy Paul Charlie 157. And TB, Tom Brady, 500. Those together do amazing things for injury. And then I use PT-141, which is an injection or a nasal spray that I use for sexual health. And I couple it with Tadatafil, which is like a Cialis, and an apomorphine, which talks to the brain with dopamine. And I'm just going to say this, that the results you see with the skinny shot with people that are losing weight is what this pep cat can do for your sex life. You only do it three days a week is what the bottle says. So, you know, use it with moderation. Yeah. but mind-blowing. And then right now I'm on a two-a-year, it's called epithelon, so 20 days at a time, twice a year, to lengthen the telomeres on these DNA chromosomes, like we talked about that the HBOT also does. So between the hyperbaric oxygen and the epithelon, now I'm going to avoid damage of these chromosomes that can lead to diseases.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
So those are the peptides that I'm on, in addition to the GLP-1, which I consider also to be a peptide.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is.
SPEAKER 08 :
a little bit different. But there's a whole lot of other ones that, oh, I'm on a copper one too to help bolster the copper that showed in my biomarkers is a little low. But there's probably, I probably listed half the ones that you sell. Oh, yeah. Depending on what it is that you're looking to optimize.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. The latest one is the C-Link. One of our employees, she has bad anxiety and she was on multiple drugs, right? And feeling like a zombie like they all do if you're on Zoloft or Prozac or Paxil or I don't know. We have an epidemic of anxiety and depression, but these drugs don't work well. And so she came to work for us, saw that we had this peptide, came off of those meds, went on the C-link and her anxiety is gone.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that's amazing.
SPEAKER 04 :
She's bouncing off the wall. She's like, oh my gosh, I have my life back. I have my moods back. I feel so great. All these other episodes that are places where she would go that would trigger the anxiety. She's like, I handle it like a duck going across the water now. So these peptides are absolutely phenomenal. It's hard for me as a doctor to keep up with them because there's so many coming out. And so I like to try them on myself so that I can talk intelligently. Now it's impossible for me to try them all, but just know that ours are the best quality, high standards peptides.
SPEAKER 08 :
There was a third party tested. Great.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. That's exactly right. Because there was probably the top peptide seller in the nation. I won't name the name of the company. Somebody took and sent it to a third party tester. And it's only about half of what they claim it is. Of course. So buyer beware. Make sure you know where you're getting stuff from.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you can throw peptides online. You have 10 options to buy. Pick none of them. Go to a good source like yours.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's exactly right. So we're going to take our last break before we bring it home, and we'll talk to people about their pocketbook and what are the things that they can do to afford it wherever they're at. So Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush with guest Jeremy Sova. We'll be right back.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. Welcome back, listeners. Final segment of the three hours, Health and Wellness Wednesday on Tuesday before Fourth of July. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush. And so we promised you that we would give you a breakdown list of the things that you can do Some people cannot afford stem cells. We were talking about that. That is the ultimate. Everybody knows I am the stem cell guy. I love stem cells, especially umbilical cord. You were talking about Joe Rogan and his experience recently.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he just talked the other day about he went down to, I think, Panama and got stem cells and completely repaired a torn rotator cuff in his shoulder. that multiple doctors told him he needed surgery, there was no other option. And he just, after everything he's learned, he refused to believe it, so he gave it a shot, thing healed completely in 60 days.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's the power of the stem cell. And for those of you who might have a budget, I'm going to give you a little tip. And I've given this in the past, and somebody actually took me up on this, and they are so thankful because... um, the lady, she was going to have, uh, give birth in like four days. She and her husband came to me, his knees are shot and I was able to get them a kit from court for life. They banked their babies and now he'll have five treatments of five vials, right? Or basically five CCs a piece. When I sell it, you're getting one vial of one CC and you can do three, you can five, seven, whatever. But, um, If you have somebody who's about to have a baby, have them call Accord for Life, get a kit, and it costs about $3,000 to bank this thing. Yep. But you're getting five vials of five cc's apiece.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm going to take it up a notch. You can take that to American Cell Technology and turn it into 250 million cells, and they take umbilical cord cells too. I have 250 million being grown and banked right now of my own. But volume is the issue, right? You need more of those stem cells. They can take those from that cord and grow them into culture and bank them so you can use them for the rest of your life.
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Yeah.
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And so I only use Court for Life. I don't know about your company. I know Court for Life will. So some people have banked their stem cells from their baby at other places. It's a racket. They will not release those cells. I have tried and tried and tried pretty much every company out there. So what I have the patients do is transfer. ownership or holding from whatever company to cord for life then core for life will cut off one of the chambers send it to me and then i can give it to you so it's a workaround and we'll save you thousands upon thousands of dollars so stem cells are the ultimate you guys know that but what if you don't have that availability so jeremy in the last oh five minutes that we have Give us, starting from people who are on a limited budget, what can they afford, where should they start, versus somebody like yourself who's doing fairly well and you can afford pretty much everything that we offer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so you're going to spend more up front. And then once you learn everything, then you can start to whittle things down. But the math that I've come up with, basically for $30,000 a year, that's a lot of money. But for $30,000 a year, it's kind of what I call the Lamborghini package. You can do all the things that I'm doing. So you get the biomarkers. You get the cancer screening. You get the imaging. You get a gym membership. You get the drugs that you need that insurance isn't going to cover. You get the supplements that you need. You get the peptides that you need. You get the red light therapy. You get the Hockett therapy. You get the IV hydration. And then you supplement for your own deficiencies. And that's about $30,000. But if you don't have the option of doing all of those things, it looks like you can really do the basics for about $7,500 a year, which is about $625 a month. That's a car payment. It's the most important car you're ever going to own.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep.
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You know, so it starts with your biomarkers, finding out what you're deficient in, working with somebody like you and saying, Hey, I'm on a budget. My FSA allows me to spend this each year. My HSA allows me to spend this much. I can spend this much out of pocket and come up with a plan. I got a good buddy that I'm doing it for right now. He's at about 10,000 a year. I think we got it pretty much to that budget and he's agreed to help me have me help him get there. And he's kind of my good friend. I've already got him from basically his deathbed to now healthy. Now it's time to get him from healthy to optimized. And he spent $16,000 a year to get healthy. So about $7,500 is the minimum. But the amount of money that you're throwing into your health care right now that you're not using and the deductibles and all the general practitioner stuff, uh, care and what, you know, they're, you're not getting coverage. So Walgreens is charging 300 bucks for your medications, like half of which you probably don't even need, but we won't know until we look at the blood work. Um, so 7,500 to 30 grand, I think anybody can do. Now, Brian Johnson spent in 2 million. He's the poster child. He's now he's my age. He's 47. His biological age is now 18 and his son is 19. He's now younger than his son. So that's what $2 million a year can buy you. I don't think any of us want to live to $200. But he's showing us things that we can put into our own lives that is much, much more cost efficient. So set a budget and deploy the right stuff based on what your biomarkers and a doctor like you says makes the most sense for your body and your life.
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Yeah, and that's the key is to find a doctor who will listen to you and meet you where you're at because some people don't even have that much. It's like, all right, well, what can we start with? Do we need to start with a methylene blue? Do we need to start with a Zeti? Do we need to start with a rapamycin? do, is there something that's just falling apart? Are you 60 pounds overweight or a hundred pounds overweight? Okay. Let's get you on a GLP one and drop that weight. So you don't need all the other things at this point in time.
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That's right.
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So, um, find a doc who's willing to work with you, whether it's a functional medicine or regenerative medicine, an integrative doctor. If you don't like who you're with switch, don't take no for an answer. Um,
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Yeah. For instance, I got a buddy that he's got the biomarkers, but the doc says, well, I'm not going to take those. I got to do my own labs. All right, fine. Let's do the labs. What's going to be in the labs. Half the stuff is worthless. Right. So now he's between a rock and a hard place. And he's like, can you help me? And I'm like, I think so, but you're going to have to budget outside of your health insurance to get someone that can write you some scripts, somebody like you. So maybe he only needs, you know, to knock the APOB down or, you know, whatever the need is. But you can have the data, but you need a doctor to write the prescription. If the insurance company's blocking and tackling, you've got to find somebody else to help you.
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Yeah, and whatever you do, don't go to Mexico. That stuff is not real. I know my sister would love to go there, and she's like, look at all the penicillin I got and whatever, and says it's not real stuff. It's a fake, right? So whatever you do, please don't do that. And again, the natural killer cells, I have that study going on for people with cancer, solid tumors. If you want more information, reach out to us, 303-663-6990, and I'll tell you more about it. And I wish you well. Have a happy Fourth of July. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush.
In this week's episode, Rick Hughes takes listeners on a journey through biblical accounts of fear and courage, unveiling the timeless principles that transform adversity into spiritual victory. With stories of the Israelites and their tribulations, Rick illustrates the destructive power of fear and the redemptive potential of faith and obedience. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to reinforce their Christian walk, embrace courage, and lean into the divine guidance that leads to a life free from the shackles of panic and dread.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stay with me. It won't be long, only about 30 minutes of motivation, inspiration, education, and all done without any type of manipulation. That's right, we don't con you. We're not trying to sell you a book. We're not trying to ask you for money. We're just offering you some information to do a deep dive into the Word of God. And it'll be 30 minutes of that sort of teaching, not trying to con you, as I said, but to hopefully verify and identify God's plan for your life so that you can orient and adjust to that plan. If this happens to be the first time you've ever heard this radio show, The Flotline, Please allow me to tell you why I call it the FLOT line. FLOT, F-L-O-T, not flight line. Some people get that mixed up. It's FLOT, F-L-O-T. Many, many years ago, my pastor, Arby Themes, Jr., from Baraka Church in Houston, Texas, developed this concept of the 10 problem-solving devices that constitute the backbone of the Christian spiritual life. He then suggested that you learn and apply these basic biblical concepts to your daily life. And if you would do that, they would act like a forward line of troops, F-L-O-T, flight line. And if you would learn these 10 basic problem-solving devices, then it would stop the outside source of adversity from ever becoming the inside source of stress. So as Christians, we have the option of living in the devil's world. We know the Bible says 1 John 5, 19 says, We know that we are from God and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. That's the word of God. But as Christians, we have the opportunity to live in the devil's world using divinely provided resources. However, unfortunately, many don't take the time to learn them and use them. Thus, they wind up letting adverse circumstances dictate what they think and what they do. Many Christians try to do the right thing, but they often wind up doing them in the wrong way. and thus they never enjoy the freedom they have been granted through Christ Jesus. Listen to Galatians 5.1. Stand fast, therefore, in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with the yoke of bondage. and that's particularly speaking about religious bondage, religious ritual without reality to it. So in the Flatline Radio Show, we're coming up on 20 years, I've taught these 10 problem-solving devices individually on this program many, many times, and I put them into print in a book even, That book is entitled Christian Problem Solving, and you can order it free from our website. Just go to rickhughesministries.org, and you'll see how to order the book Christian Problem Solving. One of our divinely provided assets is called the Faith Rest Drill. If you fail to learn the Faith Rest Drill, you're going to be subject to fear much of your entire life. Unfortunately, fear can lead to panic, and that's what I'd like to discuss with you this morning. Please allow me to quote from the Bible Doctrine Dictionary published by Theme Ministries located in Houston, Texas. Quoting now, everyone is susceptible to fear, even mature believers. No matter how much scripture has been learned, none of it can be of benefit to a mind that is immobilized with panic, end quote. Once you realize you've fallen under control of your emotions and that fear has gripped your mind, the first thing you need to do is confess it as a sin and regain the feeling of the Holy Spirit. you may ask yourself, is fear really a sin? In 2 Timothy 1.7, the Bible says, for God did not give us the spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. The answer is absolutely 100% yes. Fear is a sin. And remember that sin must be acknowledged and confessed to God as soon as possible if you want to regain the filling of the Holy Spirit. 1 John 1-9 tells you if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us of our sin and purify us from all our wrongdoing. But the spirit of fear is a mental attitude sin that comes from being afraid of the unknown. Caution under the unknown circumstances is not necessarily fear. That could be wisdom. But fear is the total domination of your thoughts which can lead to panic if it's not controlled. So when you find yourself becoming afraid, go to the scriptures. and claim a promise from God. You can find one of those promises in Isaiah 41.10. Fear not, for I am with you. Do not be afraid, I am your God. I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. That's a great verse for every Christian to claim when they find fear attacking them. Allowing fear to control you, the Christian, if you're a Christian now, I'm talking to believers, if you allow fear to control you, you would definitely quench the power of the Holy Spirit. And if this happens, you will make a series of bad decisions since you refuse to trust the Lord in your circumstances. Psalm 56, 11 says, "...and God, I have put my trust..." I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Did you hear that? So having faith in God is simply a matter of trusting God. Do you actually trust God to deliver you, or would you rather try to deliver yourself? Think about that. because having a relaxed mental attitude is definitely a sign of trust. But there's something else that's a sign of trust and it's called obedience. Trust and obedience are what eliminate fear. So let's notice the lack of obedience to God's command in the Old Testament due to fear and due to panic. In Numbers 13, chapter 13, verses one and two, the Lord spoke to Moses saying this. Send men to spy out the land of Canaan, which I am giving to the children of Israel. From each of the tribe of their fathers you shall send one man and every one a leader among them. Now remember, Moses had gone to Egypt and had freed the Israelis, had brought them out of slavery, and had brought them across the Red Sea, and now they're about to go into the Promised Land, Canaan, and take it over as God had told them they could have it. And God said, choose one man from each of the 12 tribes, a leader among those tribes. So all 12 of them were men and they were all leaders of their particular tribe. Numbers 13, 17 through 20, Moses sent them to spy the land of Canaan. And this is what he told them. He said, go up this way into the south and go up into the mountains and see what the land is like, whether the people who dwell in it are strong or weak, few or many. whether the land they dwell in is good or bad, and whether the cities they inhabit are like camps or strongholds, and whether the land is rich or poor, and whether there are forests there or not. Be of good courage. That means don't be afraid. Bring some of the fruit of the land back. Those specific instructions in Numbers 13 tell them do not be afraid. Be of good courage. So we find out what happened in Numbers 13, 25. They returned from spying out the land after 40 days. They were there 40 days looking around. 10 of those 12 had negative things to say indicating they were intimidated by what they saw. In Numbers 13, 27 and 28, they told him, we went to the land you sent us and it truly flows with milk and honey and this is its fruit. Probably gave him some of what they brought back. Nevertheless, the people who dwell in the land are strong. The cities are fortified and very large, three negative things there, strong, fortified, and large. Moreover, we saw the descendants of Anak there. You may wonder who that is. Those were the descendants of the Nephilim in Genesis chapter six, but remember, all Nephilim were destroyed in the flood. In Numbers 13, 30, Caleb trited the people before Moses. He was one of the 12 that did not buy into that fear, panic ploy. And Caleb said, let's go up at once and take possession for we are able to overcome it. He wasn't intimidated. And here's the principle. Faith looks at the solution, not the circumstances. In Numbers 13, 31, but the men who had gone up with him said, we are not able to do that. They are stronger than us. And they gave the children of Israel a bad report. Negative, negative, negative. Everything they said was negative. Bad report of the land which they had spied out. And they were saying the land through which we went as spies, we saw it devour its inhabitants. And all the people that we saw are men of great stature, big, bad men. And we saw the giants, the descendants of Anak. And we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and we were in their sight. Ten of the twelve were clearly intimidated by what looked impossible. The results were emotional panic and emotional breakdown. 10 of the 12 threw the whole bunch into emotional panic and emotional breakdown. And how many people was this? I don't know. No one can really give us a count. It wasn't a few thousand. It could have been close to a million. In Numbers 14.1, so all the congregation, Everybody, with the exception of Joshua and Caleb and Moses and Aaron. The rest of them all lifted up their voices and cried, cried, cried all night long, cried. That's what fear will do to you, just turn you into a weeping petal of nightmare. The fear of panic ploy turned people on Moses and against God. In Numbers 14.2, all the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron. And the whole congregation said to them, if only we had died in the land of Egypt. Oh, we wish we'd stayed there. Or if only we had died in the wilderness. Now they're starting to whine and complain and mew. And then they turned against God. Numbers 14.3, why did the Lord bring us to this land to fall victim by the sword? so that our wives and our little children should become victims. They actually accused God of bringing them to this Canaan land to kill their children. That's the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard of. It's all God's fault. It's all Moses' fault. It's all Aaron's fault. We don't need to be here. And this is how irrational fear and panic becomes what they prefer to be, slaves in Egypt. They said they'd rather have been slaves than come here. Listen to Numbers 14.3. Would it not be better for us to go back to Egypt and be slaves? Joshua tried to talk some sense into them, but that just made them mad. Numbers 14.9, Joshua said, do not rebel against the Lord and don't fear the people of the land for they are our bread. Their protection has departed from them. And the Lord is with us. Do not be afraid. Don't fear them. The fear-panicked children of Israel are now prepared to kill Joshua and kill Caleb, the only two of the 12 who actually believed God and trusted him. So in Numbers 14.10, all the congregation said, stone them, kill them, hit them with stones, stone them to death. The end result of their failure to trust God was discipline on the unbelieving generation. Not a little discipline, 40 years of discipline. In Numbers 14, 29, we find what God said about this negative volition, this fear of panic ploy, this refusal to trust and be obedient. And this could be true for you too. When you don't trust God as a Christian, when you're not obedient to do what God tells you to do, you're gonna get under discipline because you get in sin. This is what God said. Numbers 14, 29. Your carcasses, those of you that complain about me, will fall in the wilderness. all of you who were numbered according to your entire number from 20 years old and above, that's not talking about anybody under 20, except for Caleb and the son of Jephunneh and Joshua the son of Nun. You will by no means enter that land which I swore I would make you dwell in, but your little children whom you said would be victims, I'll bring them in and they will know the land which you hated. But as for you and your carcasses, you will die in the wilderness and your sons will be shepherds in the wilderness for 40 years and bear the brunt of your infidelity until your bodies are consumed in the wilderness. So everyone 20 years and older did not go in the promised land. They wandered in the wilderness for 40 years until they all died and then their children went in under the leadership of Joshua. Here's some principles you have to remember about this. It's wonderful principles to remember for the Christian about fear. One, for the Christian, there's never a time you should doubt God and doubt his provisions. There's never a time you should doubt God and doubt his provisions. Now what about in your life today? Are you doubting God? Are you facing some circumstances in your life that you're afraid? Are you a child of God? Are you a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ? What are you afraid of? Have your emotions taken control of your thinking and led you into fear and have you started to panic and cry about your circumstances? Number two, the more you fear, the more you will surrender to fear. That's true. You fear one thing today and you'll fear two things tomorrow and three things later. Some people are afraid of tornadoes. Some people are afraid of storms. Some people are afraid of lightning. Some people are afraid of spiders. Some people are afraid of snakes. There's nothing wrong with being cautious in these circumstances, but letting them control you to where you panic and cry and want to run hide, that's a bad thing because the Lord is in charge. He can take you home today or tomorrow, the next day. You don't have to be in a tornado. You can be driving down the street and some idiot cross the line and hit you head on and you'll be in heaven. But the more you fear, the more you surrender to fear. Three, fear can make a slave out of you to the things you fear the most. Four, fear sees the problem. Uh-oh, there it is, look, and then it panics. But faith, on the other hand, sees the solution, that's the promises of God and his protection, and gains victory over the circumstances that threaten him. Fear sees the problem and panics, but faith and obedience sees the solution and gains victory over the circumstances that threaten him. So five, fear is the key that unlocks many doors, starting with the door to arrogance, self-justification, self-deception, self-destruction. So you cannot be afraid without putting an abnormal emphasis on yourself. If you're afraid, you're going to be abnormally self-justifying. I don't deserve to die. This is not right. This is wrong. Why does this have to happen to me? And you'll complain and you'll whine just like the Jews did here. You cannot be afraid without putting an abnormal emphasis on your own self, self-centeredness. To the extent that you become frightened by anything as a Christian is the extent that you set up a new circuit in your life which is called arrogance. And from that particular fear comes many, many manifestations of arrogance. Self-justification, as I said, the reason you don't have to obey God, the reason you don't have to trust God, the reason you don't have to do this, don't have to do that, that's what self-justification is. And self-deception, you'll actually lie to yourself and believe what you tell other people. So fear can control you. Fear can grip you because it's one of the strongest emotions that you have. And as a believer, you have to learn to overcome that fear. Six, fear is lack of thinking under pressure. Remember you've heard me say under pressure you can think. You can think or you can what? You can react or you can respond, one of the two. React or respond, it's up to you. If you react, you're gonna react with your emotions will kick in. Fear will take over. Panic will approach. And you'll start crying and whining and you'll be totally afraid and controlled by the circumstances. But if you have faith, then you can respond with trust and obedience. Trust and obedience are the keys to overcoming your fear. God hasn't forgotten you. He's not going to abandon you. He promised in Matthew 6 he would provide everything you need to stay alive. Now, if you're a sinner under discipline, if you're a Christian and you have unconfessed sin in your life and you're going through discipline, you have a right to worry because the Lord is gonna knock a knot on your head if you don't straighten up. If you don't go to him and confess your sin as you should according to 1 John 1, 9, you're gonna get the discipline hammer a little heavier every day until eventually you come under the sin of the death because there's warning discipline intense discipline, and dying discipline, oft taught in Hebrews 12. Those that God loves, he disciplines. And you have a right to be cautious about that. But don't be afraid. God's trying to teach you to save your life. He's trying to show you something that'll protect you so you don't go off down the highway highway and destroy your own self. So again, point seven, fear is a mental attitude of worry, a mental attitude of anxiety, a mental attitude of apprehension, a mental attitude of trepidation and despondency. And part eight, here, carefully listen to this one, especially those of you in the audience that are older like myself. Fear of dying will never prevent you from dying, but it will prevent you from living. Fear of death will never prevent your dying, but it will prevent your living. You've heard me say time doesn't shout, it just runs out sooner than you think. It's required a man once to die, and after that the judgment the Bible teaches. We're all going to die. It's nothing to be afraid of for the mature believer. It's the greatest promotion you'll ever have. It's walking through the door into the presence of God. What a wonderful thing. So when you're afraid of dying, you're looking back and thinking, well, you're leaving, and you think that's where your security is. And it's not. As a Christian, your security is in front of you in heaven. In Psalm 56, 3 and 4, listen carefully. Claim this. Write it down. Remember it. What time I am afraid, I will put my trust in you. In God, whose word I praise, in God I put my trust. I will not be afraid of what man can do to me. You see that word trust, trust, trust, that's nothing but obedience, that's what it is. Being obedient to whose word is found in the scripture. He tells you how to handle fear. He tells you how to handle adversity. He tells you what your attitude should be. And you can obey that, and you can have a wonderful life, or you can ignore that and be controlled and manipulated by your fear until you become a puddle of tears. But that verse I just read to you, Psalm 56, verse three and four, requires you to exercise positive volition. You have to be positive, not negative volition, positive volition. That's your decision. Negative volition is a bad decision. Positive volition is a good decision. This verse requires you to exercise a good decision and use the faith rest drill. I will put my trust in you. That's faith, faith, faith. And I will not be afraid. That's positive volition. Every time fear comes to your life, you know you are not living the Christian way of life, and you know immediately that you are not executing the protocol plan of God. Why is that? Because the protocol plan of God is a life full of courage. It's the execution of God's plan, and it requires you to be brave, be strong, stand fast, Don't be afraid. What is courage, actually? It's actually thinking Scripture and functioning under pressure, as if there were no abnormal circumstances whatsoever, as if there was no crisis and no pressure. That's what courage is. Courage doesn't mean you're not cautious. Courage does have cautiousness as part of it. But courage is claiming God's promises when you go through adversity and using those 10 problem-solving devices, which I told you about at the beginning of the show, called the Flatline. If you learn them and you use them, The flat line will act like a main round of resistance in your life and stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside source of stress and fear and panic. If you learn God's Word, learn those problem-solving devices, and function under the privacy of your royal priesthood, you have to think and to apply and to metabolize the Word with your own intellect. You go to church, your pastor teaches you something. I hope he does. I hope he's not a good-time pastor that's there Just give you about 15 minutes of entertainment and sing a few songs and send you down the road. If he's teaching the word of God correctly, he's giving you information that you are to apply and metabolize in your life into your thinking and use it when the time comes. Courage, what is courage? One word, confidence in God. Courage is confidence in God. And how is that courage demonstrated? It's demonstrated by your boldness, B-O-L-D-N-E-S-S, your boldness in your life. And make note that fear is just the opposite of courage. Courage comes from faith and trust and obedience. And here's a principle you need to remember for the rest of your life. Your courage is contagious. When people see how you handle adverse circumstances, it can inspire them. It's a great witness for you. Courage is contagious. So think about that. Think about these things we've told you this morning. And I hope above all, if you're not a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, that you will use this time to make that decision. It is the most single and important decision in your entire life. As the Bible says, what think ye of Christ? Have you made a decision to receive Jesus Christ as your Savior? Because the Bible says to as many as receive him, to them gave he right to become the sons of God, even to them that just believe in his name. The Bible clearly says whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And you can know for a fact that you're going to heaven because it says in the scripture in 1 John 5, these things are written so that you might know that you have eternal life. Eternal life is yours through faith alone in Christ alone, not by works of your own righteousness, but by his grace. You can trust that. I promise you. Thank you for listening to The Flatline today. I hope you come back next Sunday. Same time, same channel, same place. And I hope you'll consider the things I said today about fear and panic. Thank you for listening. We'll see you next week. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Diving into America's formidable gun control debate, Andy Pate and his guests explore the murky waters of legislation, mental health assessments, and Second Amendment rights. This discussion illuminates the tension between ensuring public safety and preserving individual freedoms. Coupled with an analysis of the recent Supreme Court rulings and how they affect legal interventions, this episode promises an engaging look at significant contemporary issues.
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You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did!
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know, you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice.
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And I'm your host, Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush today. John's taking the week off. And joining me, of course, is Luke Cash and Tanner Kolb. You know, once again, more man than anybody can believe. But you know who was not a real man? the cowardly sniper up in Idaho. And apparently, you know, obviously the guy was found dead, and apparently they know who it was now. Let me just read a little of this from Town Hall. Idaho is reeling from a heinous act of violence that left two firefighters dead. On Sunday, someone intentionally started a fire in the hills outside Coeur d'Alene. It was a trap. As first responders and members of the fire department arrived, they were fired upon by an unseen sniper. Now, you've heard about this story, I assume.
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Yes.
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Now, you've been up to that area, right?
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Yeah, I was there a year ago. My mom's from Boise, so we're there all the time.
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Oh, okay. So you know the area.
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Yeah, love it.
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I think you're on the wrong mic.
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Yeah, it sounds like it. There we go.
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Now you're on the right mic. You sound like Tanner again.
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Yeah, Coeur d'Alene's a beautiful lake town up there. They got a little bit of everything you want. I can't even imagine what they're going through right now. Great people up there, great communities.
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Okay, well, really quick here. Supposedly, you know, and this is all allegedly, it's pretty new coming out. You never know if these stories will change. So understand, folks, I'm saying all this allegedly, okay? The suspect was named as Wes Rowley. He's 20 years old. Don't know anything about him, except he apparently has a prior arrest for assault in 2024 involving attacking a woman with a knife. for which he was charged with a felony assault. Okay, so this kid has a past.
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We're attacking women and firefighters. Yeah, women and firefighters.
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Like I said, he's not all man, okay? I mean, that's what you choose is firefighters who are fighting a fire and are prone and helpless because they're fighting a fire, not you. And they don't know you're coming, and you apparently set the fire to bait them. Apparently, that's, you know. I mean, that makes sense, right?
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Yeah.
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And of course, you go after women. What a guy. Luke, you are our Second Amendment expert here. Now, of course, the left is rising up as always saying the answer to this is to, you know, disarm all the law abiding. You know, if we just had fewer guns out there. None of this would ever happen. And or, you know, this guy is crazy. So everybody should be put through a mental health test. And we should have black flag laws, all this kind of stuff. What say you, Luke?
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I mean, it feels like it's always like the same pieces. And I can't. I don't want to say I don't get it because, you know, something like this happens. It's like there's a knee-jerk reaction. It's like, this is awful.
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And we just want it to stop.
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Right, this is terrible. We want to solve the problem. And I think the knee-jerk reaction of just disarm everyone is a very... What they perceive is a very easy solution to that problem. The answer is simple. Just get rid of it all. Not the case. And I feel like it's also – it's a hard topic to discuss, especially right after a tragedy because any amount of pushback feels – kind of twisted in a way, right? It's like, well, hold on. Hold your horses. Let's not disarm everybody. I agree we need to find a way to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen, right? But the solution isn't to pull guns away from every person.
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Well, let me ask you this because, once again, you're the expert. You know guns. I don't. Okay? I try my best. I own one. So, you know, I've gone to the range a few times, but I don't know guns like you do, okay? Well, thank you. And... These people will say, well, what about mental health tests and red flag laws? Here's my big concern. Who would determine them? Because do you trust the government, the government that kept kids out of schools during COVID, okay? The government that has wrecked virtually everything it has touched for the last hundred years. Do you trust the government to, in unbiased fashion, who is mentally stable to hold a gun. I'm not saying they wouldn't get a bunch of them right. I'm sure that they would. Yeah, this person really shouldn't. But... The government is going to be run by the party in power, which opposes the other party in power, so they've already got a large group of people they hate, and we're supposed to hope that they will be unbiased. Do you see my concern?
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Yeah, absolutely, and I think it's a very legitimate concern, right? I mean, you give the whole point of the Second Amendment, by its very nature, is to use in the protection of yourself from other people or a tyrannical force. So you don't want to give a potentially tyrannical force access to the power to remove your Second Amendment right or suppress it in any way. It's kind of a no-brainer, I think. That being said… At the very least, there are systems in place currently that should have prevented him from getting that firearm. Well, yeah.
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I mean, if he's got this felony charge right there, it's game, set, match.
SPEAKER 08 :
Felony assault charge. How did he get access to that firearm to begin with? So I think if you want to solve that problem, you address that issue right there. How did a felon with a violent charge, 20 years old, get access to this firearm? Right. I mean, we don't know that information right now.
SPEAKER 16 :
We don't. It's also new.
SPEAKER 08 :
There's a number of ways they could have gotten it, but if the system as intended should have prevented that, we need to find out where that gap is and fill it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. And looking at it more broadly, because you're right, in this one situation, it looks like new laws wouldn't have changed anything. The laws in place should have kept him from having a weapon.
SPEAKER 08 :
There are already laws that would have prevented it.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree. But here's the thing. Once again, as we always do, when you look at statistics and you look at gun-free zones, that's where all the mass shootings happen for the most part. When you look at the cities that have the strongest anti-gun legislation, that's where all the shooting is happening. It seems like every time you disarm the law-abiding, the law-breaking go wild. And it doesn't seem like it's ever going to happen. Well, we'll rely on the cops. You don't have enough cops, first of all. They can't be there. I love the cops, but guess what? There's a few of them. There's millions of us. They can't instantly be there to be the one acting as a human shield for every human. In, say, Denver. Okay, they can't do it. People need to be armed so they can defend themselves. And the simple fact is, statistically, it's overwhelming. When you disarm the law-abiding, you have a lot more of this. Am I right, Tanner?
SPEAKER 12 :
A hundred percent.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. So that's what worries me. Okay, Luke, I just wanted to throw it to you. It just sounds to me like, you know, there are things that we can do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
But the prescriptions of the left are not those things. They're not going to work. It seems to me that they want activism, not fixes. Do you see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And I think there's this parallel that gets drawn a lot of the times where people on the left who are advocating for total disarmament are pointing towards countries. and using them as an example when they themselves will typically don't have a history of firearm culture, right? That doesn't exist embedded into the culture. You see a lot of parallels drawn to Australia. Australia was at one point armed, and then they willingly became disarmed, and the number of gun violence went down. Asterisks, not all violence went down. The violence just changed forms, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and also, Luke, look at during COVID what a disarmed public – Look at how a disarmed public in Australia was treated during COVID. Right. I mean, they were literally encased in their homes. They were treated as almost lab animals. I mean, it was horrible. They had no freedoms whatsoever. They had nothing to fight back against, as Luke was saying earlier, a tyrannical government.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. So it's like when you're talking about solving the issue of gun violence in America, I think all of us can agree that... This kid shouldn't have had a gun. Right. Violence with firearms is a bad thing. Yeah. When we address that issue, we need to address that issue from a position of understanding that left and right, you're not getting rid of all the guns. It is too deeply ingrained and baked into the very foundation of America. So we've got to throw that idea aside because every time you say disarm everyone, it's creating head-butting and creating friction between the parties as opposed to solving the problem, which is what we're supposed to be doing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I would agree in one last thing. The jurisdictions, you've got places like Waco, Texas, places in Florida and so forth, where people are heavily armed, there's no shooting. Because a nutcase feels that they can go off and shoot when they know nobody's going to shoot back. A nutcase, they live in a dream world, don't they? They live in a dream world of all the wreckage that they want to cause around them. And they envision this world where I can go around and I can shoot and get these people and so forth. Nowhere in that imaginary world are there people shooting back at them. Everybody's just fishing a barrel. Yeah, I think we we need fewer fish in a barrel. I think we need more people who are armed to fight back. You know, I mean, this was different. This was obviously, I mean, a sniper. They were waylaid. They were lured in. But I think in general, for the left to jump to conclusions like this and try to use this of all things as a reason for more gun laws is insane. Agreed?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
OK, let's take a break. When we come back, we've got to talk a little about the Supreme Court. They do know there was a little catfight.
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Oh, yeah.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Luke Cash and Tanner Cole. Okay, we're going to talk a little bit about women. And they are talking on the Supreme Court. This got a little edgy. Okay. And there were three different rulings that came down on Friday. Only a couple of them I'm really going to get into. There was one about porn, internet porn. You've got to show that you're of age, just like you show you're of age if you go into a store and buy porn, I guess.
SPEAKER 12 :
Cool. Okie dokie. Whatever. Worth our time.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. That was the minor one. The two big ones, though. where, as you know, there have been all these national injunctions. You've had hundreds, because you've got hundreds of these lower court judges, right? And any one of them could stop the entire Trump administration from moving forward and governing. which was a real problem because guess what? They weren't elected president. They were appointed as judges, which is fine, but that's their power level. And they were able to shut down the entire us government again and again and again. And I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it's something ludicrous. Like this has been done more to Trump in four and a half years of being the president than than like, I don't know, the last hundred years combined or something to the other presidents. Something ludicrous like that. In other words, the activists are going after Trump at a rate and a level that is way above anybody else's. They're simply using the courts to govern. They're using the courts to overrun the guy who is actually, you know, what's that word? Elected. to do what he wants. And you may like him. You may dislike him. Hey, man, I couldn't stand Biden. I couldn't stand Obama. But guess what? At least Obama for sure was elected and Biden was president. OK, that's the way it is. Yeah, I still have my concerns because of we've talked about this before with me. I don't buy into every conspiracy theory about the 2020 election being stolen, but there are some real statistical anomalies there that concern me. We won't go into that. All right, I'm just a numbers guy. And that would be boring. I don't want to bore everybody. But getting into this, you had Kentonji Brown-Jackson. And she wrote the dissent. And at one point, listen to some of her reasoning. She says she doesn't even ground any of her argument in legal theory. She goes, it is not difficult to predict how this all ends. Eventually, executive power will become completely uncontainable and our beloved constitutional republic will be no more. Because one judge in Missouri somewhere can't shut down the entire country and the president when that judge was not elected president. To her, that's not enough. She goes, quite unlike a rule of kings governing system in a rule of law regime. Notice rule of law regime. Nearly every act of government may be challenged by an appeal to law. At the very least, I lament that the majority is so caught up in the minutia of the government's self-serving, finger-pointing government's arguments, sorry, that it misses the plot. She's serious. Now, look, Elena Kagan is a far-left wacko. But I think she is highly intelligent. Okay. And she's on the Supreme Court. I oppose her, but she's highly intelligent. This woman is a moron.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, she's the same lady. I'm pretty sure you can't tell you what a woman is.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. She couldn't tell you what she was asked. What is a woman?
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. You know, it's like, well, that's multifaceted. What?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it isn't. It's a female human. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, she couldn't do it. Now, here was Amy Coney Barrett's response. Listen to this, because you normally don't hear this from Supreme Court justices. We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself. I mean, we will observe only this. Justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial judiciary. What do you think?
SPEAKER 12 :
I like it.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean... And I don't even like Amy Coney Barrett. She's too liberal for me. I personally think she has been a terrible choice by Trump. I think that she's let us down. I find her to be a pure moderate, and I think she's emotional. I think she makes decisions just like I think the Supreme Court... john roberts i think he's a very emotional guy i think both of them make decisions based on emotion much more than they do on the constitution that's my opinion okay because their rulings at times i just look at them and i'm like what are you kidding but she's right on this and she nails katanji right between the eyes and basically what she's saying is this you're a moron right why are you even on this court You know, and I have to ask this question at this point. Why are Katonji Brown Jackson and Justice Sonia Sotomayor even on this court? Now, they're put on the court because liberals put them there. I get that. And they have the right to do that. They were elected by the people. That is what democracy gives us. But it is awful. I don't think these two should be judges in any court, at any level, anywhere. Once again, I want to remind people what Justice Sonia Sotomayor said, okay, before she was confirmed. I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life. She's a bigot, okay? She could have simply said, well, you know, my Latina background, it's really enriched me and so forth, and I've learned a lot. No, no, no. She singles out white men as the ones who would come to a worse decision. Now, what if I did the reverse? Okay, what if I said, you know, I believe that... Get mobbed on the streets. Yeah, I'm just going to do this. You know, Luke, I would hope that a wise white male with the richness of my experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a black female who hasn't lived that life. Would I be called a bigot?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm watching the predator drone coming hot from the airplane.
SPEAKER 16 :
Or would anybody be trying to make excuses for what I'm saying or say, oh, no, no, no. What he really meant was they'd call me a racist. Yes. And they'd be right. Okay. Because I get news for you. You know? It doesn't matter what color or gender you are. You can be smart or stupid. Welcome to the real world.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
What is she doing on the Supreme Court? She's a bigot. What is Katonji Brown-Jackson doing on the Supreme Court? She's a moron. I mean, look, it is it is obvious that you shouldn't be that. And by the way, it's constitutional. The Constitution never, never provided for all these lower courts to simply each one act as the president so that the president, every time he wanted to do anything, be it Biden, Obama, Trump, anyone would have to fall begging before, you know, several hundred judges and say, I hope none of you disagree with this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Nothing would ever get done. No. It would just be a revolving door of opinions and then getting shut down by some random court in who knows where, Wisconsin, New Mexico, wherever someone wants to say something.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. What Ketanji Brown Jackson wants is judicial monarchs. Okay. And notice this. Here's the big difference between the president and judges. The president, whoever it is, Biden, Obama, Bush, Trump, has to respond to the voters.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay? If this person doesn't get voted in, they don't govern. A judge doesn't have to respond to the voters. A judge doesn't have to compete. And by the way, there was and we got just a minute here and then I got to go to break. But they had another ruling that came down that said that, you know, parents of religious faith, really any parents can pull their kids out of classes that are teaching LGBTQ ideology and their kids. OK, fine. I agree with that ruling, too. By the way, I would agree with that ruling if what was being thrown on their kids was Andy Pate and I were the teacher and I was trying to make every one of their kids a right-wing evangelical Christian. Okay? Should I be allowed to do that in a tax-funded school?
SPEAKER 12 :
No.
SPEAKER 16 :
Of course not. And how can you say that? I have great beliefs. It's very hateful. But do you see where I'm going with this? Mm-hmm. And I want to end with this. Look at what is in common between these two rulings. Do you see it? Judges have no competitor in the courtroom. There's not an opposing judge, okay? Teachers have no competitor in the classroom. There's not an opposing teacher, okay? The Democrats want to use all power when they have all power.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
They want to be monarchs. And what really blows my mind is right now they've been doing these all kings. I mean, no kings. Right. Sorry. These no kings demonstrations when Trump isn't a king, but they want to be.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
In every situation they can be, they want to be a king.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we've moved on from fascist dictator to king. I kind of like at least they're not using as harsh terms anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER 12 :
He's only a king. Yeah, I mean, I think he's a pretty good king. We had a vegetable king before, so at least we have a living king now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right now, Trump's on a roll. Okay, I'll just say it. His record right now, the tariffs are proving to be incredibly valuable. Things are working. Inflation is down. Hiring is up. Did you see that for the first time in over four years, wages are now outpacing inflation again? I saw that. Which we hadn't had since Trump was in the White House. So I'm telling you what, he's doing well, and he's only going to get more popular every day. And by the way, he did a great job with Iran, and he's making peace everywhere he goes. I have no idea what's going to stop this guy right now.
SPEAKER 12 :
I saw his approval rating was at the highest it's been.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
At like 59 or something.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560 online right now. We've got Todd Watkins. Todd, how are you, sir? I'm great, Andy. And yourself? You know, I'm doing well because we have a secure board. And I wanted to talk to you today because, Todd, what was that, sir?
SPEAKER 07 :
Is it everybody benefits?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, it's been great. I wanted to talk to you today because, quite frankly, I have big-time opinions on the border, on immigration reform and so forth, but you have knowledge. I have opinions. You have knowledge. So I want you to kind of tell me, how are things going? Because, I mean, it seems to be going really well, and yet ICE seems absolutely overrun. What do you think?
SPEAKER 07 :
So, first of all, I will separate these two things. And that's kind of important to do. There's the border and then there's immigration. Right. Immigration is a subset of the border and, you know, border security, national security, all that. So you have to kind of you have to carve these two out. And Biden then to Trump gave us the perfect laboratory to examine these two things in their in their separate environments.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I mean, yeah. Biden allowed an all-out invasion of our country, which I've never seen before. I mean, we have had way too much unchecked illegal immigration for many years, not just under Biden. But Biden, he swung the doors wide open. It was unlike anything I'd ever seen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I've never seen a policy of allowing the border to be violated that way before. I was Border Patrol from 1997 to 2021, and I've seen the border in various states of security. There was bad times. Trump's first term, which I was in for that, never saw it that secure. But it still wasn't 100%. It was far better than we'd ever seen. We had that family unit caravan crisis, right? Right. So we had to deal with that. That could have gone better, I think. But then along comes Biden, and he just opens the door. And for the first time in decades, You know, Border Patrol turned 101 in May last month. And never, you know, in that 101-year history, never has there been a scenario where illegal aliens would illegally enter the country and sit there and wait for us.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I know. Because they only wanted to be escorted.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, let me ask you this, Todd. We turned into the U.S. Uber, basically.
SPEAKER 16 :
What did that do? Because you still have a lot of friends in the service there. And how are they feeling now, now that they're able to do it, now that they're able to actually work at the border? I mean, are they bored, though? I mean, it doesn't seem like there are that many crossings.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's kind of a bit of a paradox, I guess. You know, super, super secured. Everything's working out great. Actually, morale is through the roof. But simultaneously...
SPEAKER 16 :
you know you kind of you'd like you'd like to find a a group to go chase you know right okay well okay well let me ask you this let me ask you this because obviously it's the other side of the coin for ice and they're having to kick in doors they're having to they're having to go through a lot of extra steps to deport people who should not be here because they're here illegally and it can be very dangerous at times is their morale high though because of the backing they have from the president
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it is, and there's a little bit of history here with ICE. ICE, of course, didn't come into being until the DHS was created in 2002. So in their 20-plus year history of being the— immigration enforcement inside the U.S., right? They don't work the border. I've never seen the leash taken off of them the way it is now. And we kind of knew that was going to have to happen. Every administration since their inception, including George Bush in the aftermath of 9-11, they were very... I guess, trepidatious with how they used ICE, the amount of enforcement that they were allowed to pursue. Because the truth is, you know, we get wrapped around the axles. And part of this is from the administration. Their messaging also is criminal aliens, criminal aliens. You don't have to be a criminal alien to be illegal and removable, deportable.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, you look. That's the only criterion is you're not you're here illegally. Therefore. you will be deported, regardless of what your criminal history is.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, Todd, no, no, no, don't run on, don't run on. I want to jump in there because I brought this up with people before. You know, people want to make it, really take it lightly that these people came here illegally and they're quote-unquote undocumented. Anywhere I go undocumented, I'm illegal there. Okay, so, you know, well, there are no illegal people. Nobody's saying you're an illegal person. You're legally a person. We're saying you're an illegal immigrant. You immigrated illegally. If you're a bus driver, you drive a bus. Okay. If you immigrate illegally, you're an illegal immigrant. It's not, you know, we're not calling names here. We are describing your actions. And I think that, you know, we're dealing with incredible numbers. And I will say this. There are these people who have come in. It was so broadcast around the world, especially South America, that it was so accepted to come here illegally that they felt, well, gee, it's like going over 55. I'm not really breaking that big of a law. And I got to be honest, I feel for them in that way. Right. They wanted a better life and it wasn't being treated as a major crime. So they didn't see it as a major crime, even though they're invading a nation, which is what you're literally doing. I mean, if I go to a nation and I'm there without documentation, I'm an invader. OK, what I want to know is what I want to know is this. Have we seen such a change because of a change, honestly, with the Hispanic vote? And I know that's out of the blue here, but hang on with me for a moment. When you go back during the Bush time and during the Clinton time, right, and even during the Obama time when they weren't enforcing, During that time, a very high percentage of Hispanic Americans, which was a very growing, a rapidly growing segment of the voting public, a very large percentage of them, a big majority, did not want us to enforce voting. immigration law okay they didn't want us to why they had too many family members they knew too many people it was just too close to their community that has shifted so now when trump is going to his people and saying no enforce the law enforce it across the board he's doing it in the context of the hispanic voters in america now a majority of legal hispanic voters now want deportations Do you think maybe the change in the Hispanic voter is unleashing ICE?
SPEAKER 07 :
I never... I hadn't analyzed it against the attitudes of the Hispanic voting bloc. I looked at it in more terms of Trump didn't have any choice but to do this because of what Biden did. Biden essentially... he invited an invasion, essentially declared war on American citizens by allowing foreign nationals of every flavor, every color, every size, shape, whatever you want to call it, into the United States, deliberately releasing them into the United States to skew the population and really to tilt the political... framework of the united states the political uh climate of the united states you know that's going to change uh representation in a lot of states uh well i mean seriously because well you're talking about the census there but also what does it say to the american voter when an entire political party looks at them and says i really want to replace you i i want you overrun with new voters who like us your listeners see that what
SPEAKER 16 :
Go ahead again, Todd.
SPEAKER 07 :
I didn't hear you. I said, I seriously wonder how much of the Democrat voting bloc, how much of the Democrat Party actually sees it as an effort to displace their vote, to supersede them with foreign nationals. I saw that. I think most everybody in the Border Patrol saw that. I know you recognize it for what it is. I don't know how widespread that understanding is. But it's absolutely true. But a president cannot, in good faith, ignore the fact that there are, you know, 15, 20 million illegal aliens residing in this country. They have to be removed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. Okay, now let me ask this. Manpower, okay? ICE is obviously overwhelmed. When we have the big, beautiful bill go through, and at some point it's going to go through, and we're going to have suddenly the money go toward rebuilding the wall. Now, we're going to hire a lot of new ICE and Border Patrol agents, but as you know, it takes, what is it, six, 12 months to get them trained up and even ready to go on the streets. You tell me. But in the meantime... The more we secure the border, the less we need Border Patrol. Can we shift that manpower to help ICE?
SPEAKER 07 :
So you're in the military. You know what TDY is.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, I do. Temporary duty.
SPEAKER 07 :
You could detail, temporarily assign Border Patrol, which we've been doing. So if you watched a lot of the footage there in Los Angeles when they were having their mostly peaceful protests against ICE, You saw a lot of guys in green uniforms, and those were Border Patrol, by and large. I know there are some other agencies out there that happen to wear green, but Border Patrol went up there in force from San Diego sector, El Centro sector, and I believe from Yuma sector, sent people up there also. And that was not for the express or even the primary purpose of joining in those crowd control efforts, the riot police, they were going up there to enforce immigration law. So we're doing that. We're detailing BP agents to these ICE task force across the country and And doing exactly that. Okay, well, one more question.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, one more question here, Todd, before we go to break. We'll come back. I actually want to talk a little about the vice chair race here in Colorado because that may sound boring to some people. It is not. It's actually blowing up online. Here's my question. Let's say Trump builds the wall. And by the way, he's going to. I think the wall is going to get built. I think it's going to get built very quickly. And obviously, it's not a pure wall all across. There's different terrain. We all get that. We're not stupid. Okay, we get it. We're just talking. We just call it the wall. Once it is in place all across our southern border, policing that southern border becomes much easier, especially with the high tech that they're going to have attached to this. Ergo, you don't need the same amount of manpower. So at that point, doesn't that free up even more border security to help ICE?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, because you still have to respond.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, but respond to what? I mean, aren't you going to dramatically lower the number who even try? I mean, how do you even try when you've got not just the wall, but you've got high tech able to detect you're underneath and above and at a distance from the wall? I mean, it becomes awfully, I mean, it just becomes pointless to try to cross at that point, doesn't it?
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No, I mean, we've, We have a lot of ISR platforms, intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, as it is, and we've had them for really since post-9-11. We've got drones with the whole radar, camera array. So detecting has gotten much, much better. So our ability to identify or just detect incursions is dramatically increased. If it becomes 100%, Well, now you have 100% detection, so you still have to go and interdict them. And if you let off on your ability to interdict, they'll just run. They'll come right through. They don't care if we see you. It doesn't count unless we catch you.
SPEAKER 16 :
How do they come right through once we have that level of walls and gates? I mean, it's going to be dramatically larger than what we have now.
SPEAKER 07 :
So whether... You may not see groups of 100, but a group of 10, you still have to chase them. If you build a 100-foot wall, they will build a 101-foot ladder.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I will... Well, yeah, but I mean, trying to carry a 101-foot ladder across the desert, you know, below the border, you're going to get seen miles away. I mean, is it... You know what I mean. I mean, it just seems pointless.
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So in... Almost equal in importance to that wall is the other infrastructure to access some of these remote areas. I watched groups of aliens come in, come over. They knew where our cameras were. They knew when they were on film, as it were. And it didn't matter because their scouts told them where the rest of the other agents are. And you can do this all night long, all week long with a group of 10 goes here, a group of 10 goes there. You pull off the agents for that, and then you run a group of 20 up the middle. And they'll get over that fence. They'll get over it. They'll get under it. I don't care what you build. They will get through it. They have nothing but time. And their budget on the cartel side is absolutely limitless. They don't have requirements.
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I know.
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of allocating funds. They don't have to go to Congress to beg for tunneling equipment to defeat the Americans.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, they don't. But surely you're not saying that defending an enormous barrier like that is exactly the same as defending an empty field where there's no barrier whatsoever. I mean, come on. That's ridiculous. I mean, obviously a large barrier is going to slow you. It's going to make it more. That means you're going to need the large ladder. That means you're going to need to do things that are more easily detected. I agree with what you're saying. They're going to, you know, they're going to play. They'll do it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll find ways. But I just think it's going to be greatly slowed.
SPEAKER 07 :
To some extent, yes. I mean, the idea of the wall was to give us time to respond to the incursion. It's a lot different, like you said. than just three-strand barbed wire, snip, snip, and you're through, whereas this takes a little bit more time and effort. They'll develop the effort. They'll develop technology that we hadn't even imagined yet to get across it. I've seen them fabricate basically car carriers that were a ramp to ramp over our border fence, and obviously they're not going to do that with a 30-foot barrier. The taller the barrier, the harder it's going to be. I'm not saying that it's a waste of time that we shouldn't do this. Absolutely, we should do this. But don't be lulled into complacency that, well, we've got this big, beautiful wall and it's got all this tech. We only need half the Border Patrol there. You'll be proved very wrong about that after a couple of years, and you'll be racing to catch up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so you're basically saying it's going to help, but we're still going to need the manpower. That's fair. Okay, you know your job, man. I mean, you've been there. But keep in mind, you're saying, well, I've seen them come with barriers that go over fencing. I've seen them march tens of thousands across empty fields. Okay? I mean, that's what I've seen, where there's no barrier whatsoever, and all they do is walk.
SPEAKER 07 :
But you still have to respond. Yeah, I know, I know, but you see the difference. And interdict it, yeah. I mean, a couple of years before I came in, they had the big, wide-open fields there south of San Diego.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
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You know, with Tijuana, and they would just fill up, and the sun would go down, and then hundreds would just run down. nor into California. You don't see that anymore, but you almost get more concerned with that group of 10 that went through all that trouble to get over that fence. That's fair. That's a level of desperation and commitment You kind of want to know who they are. Okay. Well, tell you what. It's not the easy route.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole and Luke Cash. And on the line right now, we've got Todd Watkins. Todd, really quick here. We've got about four minutes. I want to talk about the vice chair race. Here in the Colorado Republican Party in Colorado, because the vice chair stepped down, he had differences with the chair, Britta Horn. And I don't want to go into those because I just don't have time right now. I want to talk about the people who are vying for a spot. And what we have is something that we've never really seen before. We have, or at least not for many years, we have a couple of the candidates for vice chair who want to get in specifically for one reason, to undermine her and to attack her from within. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
I am not going to argue with that assessment.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, and what are their names, sir?
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So, well, I know Mark Hampton out of Douglas County, the Parker area, and I believe there might be one other that's on that side of the aisle, if you will.
SPEAKER 16 :
Is Darcy running? That's running. Darcy Shanning?
SPEAKER 07 :
She said that she was, but I...
SPEAKER 16 :
haven't seen anything more about so okay maybe she is maybe she isn't maybe i don't care well in that case let's just talk let's just talk about mark hampton who is a rhino watch crazy and yes i will call him that and i don't care um mark hampton yeah i know he did he he is rhino watch mark hampton is one of the most aggressive um just mean, vicious people online I have ever seen here in Colorado politics. He's in the top 10 of just these people who just breathe fire. And he has spent, for the last year, attacking Britta Horne at every level. She's a rhino. She's terrible. You know, and he was, of course, he's a big Davidian. He supports Dave Williams and the old regime. And he he fought against her getting elected all he could. Now he wants to run for vice chair. What on earth is he going to do as her partner?
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I don't know what he thinks he can do. Here's they they think, oh, this is going to be the number two. I'm going to have you know, all this, uh, power and authority to do something. That's not how that works. I urge anybody who wants to run for any of these political offices at these parties, read the bylaws, see what it is. The job description is in there. The job description.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hello. Are you there?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I mean, did, did I, you dropped out for a moment?
SPEAKER 16 :
You said the job description, then you dropped out.
SPEAKER 07 :
The job, the job description is in the bylaws. It's literally two sentences. It is to serve as the chair when the chair is absent, right? Yeah. So kind of like when the chair isn't here, so you'll be the chair. And the other is to basically do whatever job the chair gives you. That's it, man. That's it. You don't have anything else. So if he thinks he's going to, you know, sally forth on his own, carrying whatever agenda or initiative he wants, That's absolutely incorrect. The chair can completely cut him off.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I believe he entirely intends to do that. And, you know, Todd, just so you know, we've got less than a minute left. Sum up what you see happening. What? Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
It wouldn't last but a moment if he tried to, you know, go off on his own. I mean, she can shut him down.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, but wait a minute.
SPEAKER 07 :
You've got 30 seconds. I want you to answer this and sum up.
SPEAKER 16 :
What's it going to look like, though, for Britta Horne since she's already lost one vice chair? And by the way, I like Britta, but you know. And she's already lost one vice chair who says, hey, I can't work with her. And then she gets another one and she has to shut him down. How's that look for her? I mean, remember, what do you think Rhino Watch is going to do?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't care what Rhino Watch does. That's fair. And anybody who listens to Rhino Watch is just foolish for listening to it. I mean, if you're an enemy of the party, then that's your... You know, that's your prerogative. Yeah, it's the propaganda from the opposition.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, running against him is Richard Holthorff. I'm sorry, sir, we're pretty much out of time. But, Todd, I want to have you back again because thank you so much for enlightening us on what can be done at the border and what can be done to help ICE. I appreciate it. Sure, Andy. See you guys. Have a great day. Okay, that was Todd Watkins. Okay, that's it. That's it for our number one. In our two, we're going to be talking Trump, the military, lots more. We've got lots more to talk about, and also Richard Rush will be joining us to talk sports. Keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
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So this is interesting. Miami New Times has a story about former Congressman Matt Gates. According to the New Times, quote, they said that a TikTok user recorded him scrolling through his text messages and saw his laptop screen on a plane. They were on a plane. The Miami New Times reports, quote, showing his contract with a firm associated with Trulieve to provide administration related guidance. In response to a comment on the video, the user posted the photo with the caption, quote, gigantic font, no privacy screen on his phone. nor on his laptop, end quote. The file, says the Miami New Times, on his laptop, titled PYG of Council Agreement LP, and this is per the New Times, states that the former Florida representative will provide legal representation, consulting, and administrative related guidance. And it discusses, quote, non-refundable payments on the commencement of representation. and that he's going to get apparently six figures, and it says he appears to be entitled to additional super success fee. So very interesting, very, very interesting, that whole story that's on the Miami New Times. A Florida man was headbutted by a shark while surfing. I've never heard of that. That's in New Smyrna Beach, Florida. They are the shark bite capital of the world. But even this kind of goes above that. Surfer Darren Kay, he was surfing near Ponce Inlet, and he was literally struck in the face by a leaping shark. in a bizarre collision. And the crazy thing is that it was captured on video. It shows the shark breaching the water as he's riding what's known as a fish surfboard, which is already also kind of funny. It's kind of ironic, right? He goes, you're riding a fish and the shark tries to get your fish. And he kind of brushed it off. But yeah, it jumped up and literally leapt out of the water and hit him right in the head. So he's fine. I mean, and they think the shark's fine. I mean, it's just kind of a weird... kind of a weird thing to have happen. But I would imagine that that does happen. At least he wasn't bitten. So that's, you know, there's a good thing. Let's see. Florida man who allegedly forged his deceased mother's checks and expressed a dislike for his aunt. This family sounds all manner of messed up. I think we may have had this last week. But it's a law and crime story. This guy stole thousands of dollars from his late mother's estate. And according to the sheriff's office, this has been going on for like over a year, apparently. And I guess it's sad, I mean, the way that this happened. I guess some of his family members found out. Also, tomorrow I'll save this one. A guy convicted of freeing 19 sharks was pardoned by POTUS. All family pharmacy. Great website. If you need to bookmark it, save it forever. I've used them so much. You can get your emergency kits. You can get your daily medications, your antibiotics, the whole nine yards. And they're also offering a summer sale that's 20% off of your entire order. No insurance required. Licensed doctors in all 50 states. They're not gatekeepers to your health and the medicines that you need. I've used them for antibiotics to help with strep throat. And you can get your ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, all the stuff that you need at allfamilypharmacy.com. And Make sure to use code Dana to get 20% off of your entire order and you can get fast shipping right to your front door. Most everything is like in two to four days, but you can get it overnight if you need it because they understand your health is important. And sometimes getting these medications in a timely fashion is critical. Visit all family pharmacy.com slash Dana and get 20% off promo code Dana 20. Make sure you use a coupon to save 20% all family pharmacy.com slash Dana coupon code Dana 20 to save 20%. Also, we had this story about this group that was playing this festival overseas. It was in Glastonbury. It's their big festival that they have in Britain. And the U.S. government pulled the visas of these. They call them these British punk rappers, Bob Villain, because they went on this tirade and were screaming death to the IDF. We have some of the audio of it here. I mean, this was like they played this huge festival.
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Free, free. Free, free. Free, free. All right, but have you heard this one, though? Death, death to the IDF. Death, death to the IDF. Death, death to the IDF.
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Wow, all those people chanting like lemmings. Like Lemmings, the state, they were supposed to come to the United States and tour in the United States was like, no, we don't want that. So they revoked the visas for the members of that group after they they led the crowd in death chants. And that was a deputy secretary of state, Christopher Lando. He posted this on X. And said, yeah, we're not going to have this over here. They were trying to, they were leading these chants. And this was on Saturday when this was happening. I saw it was trending over the weekend. And I was trying to stay off social media over the weekend. And, I mean, that's, wow, that would count. So, of course, the left likes them, but they're not going to be able to come over after this. They were supposed to. I think they had a number of dates here in the United States, a handful of them. And now, nope, not happening. Now, in addition to it over in what gets me is like, OK, so they I don't know if this was in Britain. Some police were investigating it. So it was in Avon and Somerset. They've announced that they've opened up an investigation into what they called a public order incident. I just want to compare the reaction from the British authorities into this. Compare it to, do you guys remember the video of the little kid who got in trouble because she remarked, and apparently she's on the spectrum and she's quite young, and her grandmother apparently has very short hair and is a lesbian. And she was on video telling this female police officer that she looked like a lesbian because she had short hair and was similar in appearance to her grandmother. And they were trying to go after and arrest this little kid for hate speech. You guys remember this whole thing? Like they showed up at her house. They brought the police to their house. It's all on camera. There are like a number of examples of this. If the authorities over there hear you saying something that you don't like, they show up to your house. If you post something that hurts someone's feelings on social media, it's actionable. But then you have these guys that literally get on a stage. in front of thousands of people and are screaming death death to the idf and like hate like violence like they're what they're calling for is violence it's not i you know i dislike these people and that's the chant because it's not as fun uh but they're they're screaming about actual like trying to incite violence and oh well there's been an investigation open there's an investigation that's been open now oh yes a senior detective has been appointed to lead this investigation what the hell are you investigating I mean, if you if a little kid gets in trouble for saying that a short haired, you know, tomboyish looking female cop looks like her lesbian grandmother and they're trying to get her for a quote unquote hate speech. Why is that such a different reaction to this? This is amazing to me. So, oh, no, now we've got an assessment. We've decided, this was their actual statement, following the completion of the assessment process, we've decided further inquiries are required and a criminal investigation has not been undertaken. Now, these are their rules. These are their rules. So what else do you need to investigate? The guy's on camera saying this stuff. I'm just curious, according to their rules, what else is it that they need to investigate? It doesn't make any sense. And so there was a really good piece that I and Hersey Ali had over at the FP. And the subhead was, it's a brilliant strategy in its simplicity. You paint Israel as the nexus of evil, and then you paint every Jew who doesn't renounce it as complicit, and then you force them to choose dignity or safety. And of course, she was going off on this. I mean, this was like on one of their main stages, broadcast live. on the BBC. 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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So Hertz customers are mad over AI powered scanners that detect small marks and they charge hundreds, hundreds of dollars. Like one got $440 because they had a tiny, it was under one inch and it was a scuff that well, and the renter, the leaser was saying that it was there even beforehand, but still they said there, there's no recourse to dispute the charges and that they're getting charged hundreds of dollars for minor scrapes and dents that are detected by their new AI powered scanner. So, That's very interesting. I'm actually surprised this hasn't been used beforehand. But I don't know. I think that if you have I think there should be some discretion used, I think, when evaluating those things. But I can definitely see this being abused. Absolutely. We're going to talk about this one coming up. Rap duo Bob Villains, anti-Israel. And it wasn't just an anti-Israel chant. I mean, this guy was like pro Hamas at Glastonbury and a big British festival event. And he was screaming death to the IDF at the festival. And he was saying they were saying free, free Palestine, death, death to the IDF. And now he was supposed to come to the United States and tour. And now that's not happening because they pulled it. They pulled his ability to come here. He's had... his visa they've terminated uh his ability we're going to talk more about this to come to the United States severe storms in Minnesota they had tornadoes up there thousands are still without power and uh they had tornadoes that caused a lot of damage in the western metro area I mean you don't really hear about a lot of tornadoes in Minnesota so that was very I mean you hear it like in Missouri or Kansas and Oklahoma and Texas don't really hear I mean I'm sure they have them but this is the first time in a long time that I've heard about tornadoes in Minnesota but uh They said that they thousands are still without power up there. The Defense Department is going to stop providing crucial satellite weather data. That's kind of interesting. They said that they're no longer going to provide it about, you know, with hurricane season, crucial information. They were operating satellites that were collecting information about conditions in the atmosphere and ocean in a group within the Navy called Fleet Numerical Meteorology and Oceanography Center. They processed it. They turned it over to people who used it for all kinds of stuff. But they said that. I mean, they said that everybody else basically has forecasting capability. There's not any reason why they still need to do this. But they said that apparently Space Force, it's also about creating departments within Space Force and kind of moving some of those responsibilities over as well. A Colorado funeral home. homeowner was sentenced to 20 years after they stashed, this is gross, 190 decaying bodies. Oh my gosh, this guy's in major trouble with this. I can't even imagine being the family. They said this is not an ordinary fraud case. And the details warrant the maximum sentence. The individual received it, too. He was found guilty of stashing 190 bodies in a decrepit building and sending families fake ashes of their loved ones. John Halford, the owner of Return to Nature Funeral Home, was sentenced to 20 years. He was telling people that the ashes that they were receiving, that that was their loved ones, when in fact it wasn't. And he was storing the bodies in this whole building. And he said, oh, I hate myself for what I've done. Probably not as much as the families that... Oh my goodness, I can't imagine. They said that it was a bug-infested building in Penrose, Colorado. And some of them were piled incredibly high. They had to have FBI agents put down boards because they couldn't even walk. They didn't want to walk through the fluid. It was a biohazard, so... And families discovered it because they noticed they were able to reveal that the loved ones were not cremated and the ashes they received were fake. And in one instance, the wrong body was buried. This is a horror story. And also... The Viktor Orban in Hungary accused the EU of orchestrating a giant pride march in Hungary. They don't allow kind of marches and any kind of protests of that nature. So they're fighting with the EU over this. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us.
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Because so many men have no idea. About what women go through. Right. We haven't been researched. We haven't been considered. And it still affects the way a lot of male lawmakers, a lot of male politicians, a lot of male religious leaders think about the issue of choice as if it's just about. The fetus, the baby, but women's reproductive health is about our life. It's about this whole complicated reproductive system that does the least of what it does is produce life. It's a very important thing that it does. But you only produce life if the machine that's producing it, if you want to, you know, whittle us down to a machine, if the machine is functioning in a healthy, streamlined kind of way. But there is no discussion or apparent connection between the two.
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That's one of the most asinine things I think I've ever heard anyone say. older than me say, I can't, it doesn't even, that doesn't even make any sense. And she's the one who's whittling down, that's former First Lady Michelle Obama, she's the one who's whittling women down to being nothing but machines. And to say that, well, you know, that's the least of what it does is life, that's the whole purpose of the system. What is the purpose of having those organs if not for that purpose? What is the purpose of having ovaries if not for that purpose? What is the, what's the role of the uterus if not for that purpose? This complete diminishment, this is not unlike how trans activists try to diminish women. And this is where they're incredibly similar to third and fourth wave feminists to try to diminish the ability of women. Men cannot do what women can do. And here this woman is trying to downplay the major difference between men and women. The one thing that men cannot do, which is grow and nurture life. And they want to rob women of that distinction as well. Rob women of being able to celebrate that distinction. This is why I say they're completely the same as trans activists. Because they want to rob women of our distinct capabilities. They want to rob women of our distinct capabilities and rob us of that distinct individual trait. I just, when I heard her say that, when I was listening, the first time I saw that sound, but I thought that it's, do you think that's the least? What is the point of the system then? If it's not to do that, what is the point of having all of that? If not for that purpose, it's just to have a uterus for fun. You go through all of that for fun. She tried to backtrack because they think as she was saying it, she realized how insane she sounded. That, well, you know, and it's a great thing, but there's no, no, it's an amazing thing. It's an amazing thing to be able to do it. It's amazing that women have that ability. It's amazing that women are set apart in that manner. So I, the whole thing and her, her approach to her perspective of it, that's just shocking. No, it's the least, no, it's the greatest thing that a person can do. That's the whole purpose of that system. It's to be able to have that and diminish it. And how does that even sound to women who struggle with fertility issues, that she just downplays it like that? Oh, well, that's like the least of what. Wow. Way to diminish what so many women have in their hearts and minds. Good night. I don't know what she's been doing lately. But she does this podcast and I don't know if she's trying to join the commentariat or what it is. But every single episode that I've seen or every – not episode but clip that I've seen of her, it's always her complaining about something. She's complaining about, oh, well, the way that women are viewed. And no one talks about it. Everybody talks about it. I have grown up hearing bitching and moaning about this is what women endure. And I say this as a woman who's gone through stuff. But, oh, my gosh. Well, you know, if you're going to just try to whittle us down to being a machine, that's what you're doing. You're trying to whittle women down to every bad experience that they have in life and use that exception as the universal.
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Thanks for tuning in to today's edition of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast. If you haven't already, make sure to hit that subscribe button on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Join the conversation as we dissect a fascinating mix of topics, from the ongoing battle over healthcare legislation to a shocking incident in Idaho. Understand the critique against billionaires amidst cries for more equality and democracy, juxtaposed with an insightful dialog on how political labels are being weaponized. Get a firsthand account of how current events are reshaping political ideologies on the left and what it means for the future.
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On healthcare and betraying a promise. It is inescapable that this bill in its current form will betray the very promise that Donald J. Trump made in the Oval Office or in the Cabinet Room when I was there with Finance where he said we can go after waste, fraud and abuse on any programs. Now, those amateurs that are advising him, not Dr. Oz, I'm talking about White House healthcare experts, refuse to tell him that those instructions that were to eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse all of a sudden eliminates a government program that's called the provider tax. We have morphed a legal construct that admittedly has been abused and should be eliminated into waste, fraud, and abuse.
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So that's Tom Tillis. Yesterday, they were actually all weekend, they were fighting over the big, beautiful bill that the Senate is now passing. Now, remember, everything's got to be reconciled with the House. There's still a little bit of ways to go, but we're going to have some of the details on that because there were some things that came out and that, you know, I think that... really made a number of lawmakers obviously unhappy because of the still spending. I mean, it's the same damn topic. You guys know what it is. They say they're going to change something and they don't actually change it because they don't have the will to change it. And then you had people like Lisa Murkowski who were cutting deals for Alaskans. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, you had a number of other lawmakers that were cutting specialized deals for themselves So we all basically get the shaft on it. But these lawmakers were able to get were able to kind of like similar to the salt thing, you know. So it's there's a lot to still to go. And there's some things to unpack. I think that the July 4th date, which is why we're talking about it right now. Some of you have emailed to ask, well. what is up with the significance of passing this thing by July 4th? Like, why July 4th? And my answer to you is there is none. It's just like this arbitrary deadline. I think that they wanted to just have the optic of being able to say, we got this stuff passed. We got it passed by, you know, the 4th of July. We were able to really do this. This is great. And honestly, I think it's just to have that That talking point for that, you know, just to be able to say that, which to me is inconsequential. Who cares? Because we care about the spending that's in it. I mean, obviously, we care about the amount of taxpayer dollars that are still going towards things like the Green New Deal. And all of the other big spending. I mean, we still had Green New Deal. We still have a lot of Obamacare era spending. There's additional waste, fraud and abuse that hasn't been cut. Because if you remember the Doge recommendations, that was one hundred and seventy something billion compared to, you know, the actual increase in spending that we're seeing proposed here. So a lot of the criticisms that you hear about it are accurate. I mean, the criticisms are accurate. And I think that also a lot of the things that could have been done to change it, lawmakers to change this and to add actual accountability, just not happening. So welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first. hour of the program. And we're going to get into all of this. Get you set up. I'm going to be out from Wednesday for the rest of the week. Taking a few days. Need to take a little time. Cain's out for the rest of the week. So we have nobody controlling the dump button today. I say that and Steve and Juan both get nervous. No one's controlling it today. No one's going to know what happens. So we'll get in. We got a lot of stuff to discuss. Also, just some of the latest. So we got that The big, beautiful bill. You also have Ma'am Danny. And I'm never going to say his name the way I think that he wants it said. You have Ma'am Danny, who had a very interesting interview over the weekend. And he was saying that he's tired of billionaires. He doesn't think we should have them. Audio soundbite 10. Listen to this.
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Democratic socialist. Do you think that billionaires have a right to exist? Yes.
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I don't think that we should have billionaires because frankly it is so much money in a moment of such inequality. And ultimately what we need more of is equality across our city and across our state and across our country. And I look forward to work with everyone, including billionaires, to make a city that is fairer for all of them.
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So he's against billionaires and he says it's because there's inequality that's running amok. Whenever I hear Marxists talk about inequality, they act like it's some kind of event that struck up on you. They act as though inequality just simply happens and that it's not the conclusion of many, many choices that led to that exact point. When he talks about inequality, I always ask these leftists, well, what do you think inequality is? Like, what are you talking about inequality? What do you think inequality is? And I really just feel that they think, well, inequality is somebody has too much money. Okay, well, how do they get too much money? I had this piece, and I've talked about this before. It's this... It's this old – not old. It's maybe like not even – maybe almost 10 years old. This piece that ran – this was a while ago where they were examining, as though it matters, but they were examining wealth. And this idea of generational wealth is – It's fiction. It doesn't doesn't actually exist. There's no I mean, generational wealth, this idea that we have these like old billionaires that pass everything down from generation to generation literally doesn't exist. The last people really who did that were the Waltons. And then one of them ended up being a Marxist. So you see how well that worked. But this this concept that. Most money is old money is not accurate, and it's illiberal. It completely ignores, you know, the digital boom, everything else, all of the other new businesses that have been able to be created, the technology that's created new industries. And all of the money in the United States, like 99% of it is new money. It's all nouveau riche. It's all, you know, people like Zuckerberg's and people like Gates and people like Jeff Bezos who... ended, who worked and literally created something out of nothing. They created everything that they have. And then there were people who were given some money and had a great start that they were given by their parents, as is their right in the United States. And they ended up, like they gave a little bit to the next generation and the next generation built upon that and made some great things. This idea from him on... The idea that we shouldn't have billionaires, that you should be prevented from succeeding after a certain point or you should be prevented from accumulating so much fruit of your labor because that's somehow unequal. Well, compare it to the amount of effort that's put in to get that outcome. I mean this is the reasoning of someone who has never held – and I've told you this. He's never held a job. He's never worked a job. He is a failed rapper and his mom directed his music videos that will cringe you to death. So I would suggest that you do not go and watch them. But this concept, it's so Marxist and this is – I mean for him to be doing as well as he is in Manhattan – is, I think, a very interesting changing of the guard in terms of ideology on the left. Very interesting. We're going to talk more about this and dive more into it. But in addition to this, we also had this insane news that came out of Idaho yesterday. We had two fatalities and numerous others who were injured as this sniper. They named him. I don't want to name him, but they named him. They did find him dead outside of Cordial Lane in Idaho on Sunday evening. He killed two firefighters. They have not been identified. Left a third critically ill. or critically injured, excuse me, after he started a brush fire to lure police out and bait the fire department. He was identified. One photo has been circulating, and his name is circulating. But they were able to recover his body before the blaze spread across Canfield Mountain. And the first fire was reported almost around 1.30 yesterday, mountain time. And when the fire and rescue responded, they were shot and killed immediately. while they were scoping out the scene. The third one was struck and he was described as fighting for his life after he was rushed to surgery before they announced that he was in stable condition after surgery. But they said that it was a total ambush and just complete pandemonium. And at one point, there was a notice from the sheriff, law enforcement, that had said, all right, if you're in the area, you might want to go ahead and take this guy. I think we have like the audio that came in on this. Do we not? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and play this. Thank you.
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Well, people in that area need to be very careful because... The sheriff has also said that if anybody gets a clear shot at the shooter or shooters, that they should take them out. And this is going to make it very difficult for law enforcement to try to determine who is in their sights. Maybe there are some innocent people, and they certainly don't want to take innocent individuals out.
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They have the authority to go out and shoot and kill the guy. If you see the shot, take the shot. And they deployed two helicopters. One of the big issues with the area is the, obviously the tree line, the foliage, a lot of ground cover. So it's very difficult to kind of scope that out from the air. They were working really hard, but... They finally, I guess he killed himself. They're still coming out with information. They had a press briefing yesterday where they didn't give a lot of information out, but just horrible stuff. And they had the bodies of the two firefighters who were killed. They brought them out in a procession yesterday. Super sad. But there was one firefighter who said that he had two battalion chiefs that were down. He was heard over the radio saying, don't come up here trying to warn everyone because they realized a little too late that they had been baited to come out to respond to that. It's just horrific. Just absolutely awful. An awful, awful way to start the week with that kind of news. But thankfully, they were able to recover the body and still investigating all of this stuff. Like I said, I know I've seen photos and stuff of this guy's name circulating, but I don't I get really weird about that because, as you remember, after Parkland, there were a lot of wannabe copycat attempts. And after Columbine, they did a couple of studies and it showed that when people like this get their name in the press, it does inspire copycat events. And people, they want to model whatever crime that they want to perpetrate out on what they're reading about in the press. In fact, the Parkland murderer, when he was being interviewed by police, that's one of the things that he had said. And just horrifying stuff. So we've got a lot. We've got headlines to get into. We've got the latest with what's happening in the Senate as we move. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over... 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brown people from different backgrounds. The word socialism is weaponized as some kind of, you know, anti-American thing. And, you know, Senator Gillibrand and others seem to have fallen victim to that level of ignorance and miseducation.
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Well, yeah, because it it is a pretty un-American thing. I mean, it's socialism. It's completely antithetical to the way that our republic is set up and work that was established in the way it works. So that's Jamal Bowman, who's not the brightest bulb in the box. And they're upset whenever those words, which are accurately used, whenever they are used to describe what it is the left does and the stuff that they that they promote in their policies. And I think it's funny that they take such offense to it. Well, then don't do it. I mean, if you're taking offense to it, then clearly you see that it's bad. So why then do you have phrases like democratic socialist and things like that? Like. made-up terms that people use as a way to sort of blunt the full effect of what that term means. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour here as we roll towards Independence Day. And Things to still update you on, particularly as it pertains to the battle continually over the bill that's in the Senate, the big, beautiful bill in the Senate that was able to pass through only because there were some Republicans, some rhinos that were cutting some deals. It was actually a deeply unpopular bill. I mean, I know a lot of people talk about, oh, well, the tax cuts. Yeah, but the tax cuts are all temporary. And I don't look I what we pay in tax. I don't want taxes to go up at all. I just don't understand why, A, we couldn't have done more and B, also why it's only temporary. I mean, I know the answers to why it's kind of rhetorical so that they can get the sort of score that they needed from the Congressional Budgetary Office. Remember, it's like. prompt with AI. It only spits out what it's fed. I mean, you have to, you know, like you would, however you prompt AI to return a desired query, that's pretty much the CBO. I mean, so they can sit here and say, well, it's not actually going to be expensive and here's why. Because tax cuts are going to be temporary. The CBO doesn't add a caveat into that when it spits out results. So it's in Democrats and Republicans both do this. This is they did this with Obamacare to to try to to fudge some of the stuff with Obamacare. So the bill is there still again, it's still being debated. We're going to talk to Chip Roy coming up at some point about this going through the Senate. I just don't understand the whole we got to pass it by July 4th. It's just such a meaningless arbitrary date. I mean, even after all of the revisions that they had, it's still a really bad bill. And the Trump tax cuts, and this was the other thing, I mean, they still could have fought over this and they still had time because the tax cuts from 2017 don't expire until December 31st of this year. So you still had a handful of months there. They were they I mean, they really should have cut it into sections and then done each piece separately. But, you know, no one's going to it's D.C. I mean, it's Washington, D.C. So we're going to talk with Congressman Chip Roy about this coming up. So all of that to keep an eye on as well. We were discussing a little earlier the I'm going to pull this up. We're talking about ma'am. I can't I struggle say his name. Ma'am, Danny, this guy and more of his platform is coming out. And it's weird. Have you noticed that the only republic are the only Democrats that seem to get behind him? And I've noticed this as well are really just only Democrats. New York Democrats. There's really not a lot of people getting behind this guy, or at least, you know, you have your AOCs and you have your Bernie Sanderses and you have those types of people, but you're not seeing a lot of other individuals get behind him. I think they're incredibly nervous. They're very nervous about getting behind him with this. And it doesn't help that while this is happening in New York, you're contrasting with Republican kind of failure, uh, In the Senate. One of the things with Mandani is that just to kind of give you insight as to those supporters, he was making a joke. Well, kind of making a joke. He had said this was what I think back like he had one tweet. He made a joke kind of about nine nine eleven. A Mandani supporter made a joke about him supporting nine eleven. And then the guy had to delete it because everybody thought it was real. some of the stuff that I think his supporters and this guy's platform, the more that you read about it, I mean, the crazier it becomes. We had, I think last week, we were discussing the issue of he wants to tax all the white neighborhoods. Well, more taxes for whiter neighborhoods. And this was on top of saying that billionaires shouldn't exist. I mean, they do, but whatever. I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem if he was a billionaire. He wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But he, the... Plans that he has been promoting out there, it's pretty wild, including freezing rents on not just like property, like personal, like residential, but business, rent for businesses, etc. I don't know how his plan is going to work. It sounds... like an elementary schooler wrote it. This guy has, I have no idea how he thinks that this is, any of this is going to work. Not only that, again, taxing the wider neighborhoods, he doesn't think that billionaires should exist. He thinks that there should be additional because New York has a number of billionaires. He thinks that billionaires should essentially have greater, even more restrictions on the stuff that they do in Manhattan, whether it's business, et cetera. I mean, this is like, he wants to treat people who are successful, basically make them pay a ton of sin taxes for being successful. I saw that the mayor of Boca Raton was saying, yeah, come on down, New Yorkers that don't want to live under this kind of Marxism. I don't think that Floridians want to welcome anybody that would entertain voting for this guy or that voted for this guy and then didn't like how it went after the fact. Very interesting. Also, we had this story about this group that was in – playing this festival overseas. It was in Glastonbury. It's their big festival that they have in Britain. And the U.S. government pulled the visas of these, they call them these British punk rappers, Bob Villain, because they went on this tirade and were screaming death to the IDF. We have some of the audio of it here. I mean, this was like, they played this huge festival.
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Free, free! Free, free! Free, free! Free, free! All right, but have you heard this one though? Wow, all those people chanting like lemmings.
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Like Lemmings, the state, they were supposed to come to the United States and tour in the United States was like, no, we don't want that. So they revoked the visas for the members of that group after they they led the crowd in death chants. And that was a deputy secretary of state, Christopher Lando. He posted this on X. And said, yeah, this we're not going to have this over here. I they were trying to they were leading these chants. And this was on Saturday when this was happening. I saw it was trending over the weekend and I was trying to stay off social media over the weekend. And I mean, that I mean, that's wow, that that would count. So, of course, the left likes them, but they're not going to be able to come over after this. They were supposed to. I think they had a number of dates here in the United States, a handful of them. And now, nope, not happening. Now, in addition to it over in what gets me is like, OK, so they I don't know if this was in Britain. Some police were investigating it. So it was in Avon and Somerset. They've announced that they've opened up an investigation into what they called a public order incident. I just want to compare the reaction to from the British authorities into this. Compare it to do you guys remember the video of the little kid who got in trouble because she remarked and apparently she's on the spectrum and she's quite young and her grandmother apparently has very short hair and is a lesbian. And she was on video telling this female police officer that she looked like a lesbian because she had short hair and was similar in appearance to her grandmother. And they were trying to go after and arrest this little kid for hate speech. You guys remember this whole thing? Like they showed up at her house. They brought the police to their house. It's all on camera. There are a number of examples of this. If the authorities over there hear you saying something that you don't like, they show up to your house. If you post something that hurts someone's feelings on social media, it's actionable. But then you have these guys that literally get on a stage in front of thousands of people and are screaming death death to the idf and like hate like violence like they're what they're calling for is violence it's not i you know i dislike these people and that's the chant because it's not as fun uh but they're they're screaming about actual like trying to incite violence and oh well there's been an investigation open there's an investigation that's been open now oh yes a senior detective has been appointed to lead this investigation what the hell are you investigating I mean, if you if a little kid gets in trouble for saying that a short haired, you know, tomboyish looking female cop looks like her lesbian grandmother and they're trying to get her for a quote unquote hate speech. Why is that such a different reaction to this? This is amazing to me. So, oh, no, now we've got an assessment. We've decided, this was their actual statement, following the completion of the assessment process, we've decided further inquiries are required and a criminal investigation has not been undertaken. Now, these are their rules. These are their rules. So what else do you need to investigate? The guy's on camera saying this stuff. I'm just curious, according to their rules, what else is it that they need to investigate? It doesn't make any sense. And so there was a really good piece that I and Hersey Ali had over at the FP. And the subhead was, it's a brilliant strategy in its simplicity. You paint Israel as the nexus of evil, and then you paint every Jew who doesn't renounce it as complicit, and then you force them to choose dignity or safety. And of course, she was going off on this. I mean, this was like on one of their main stages, broadcast live broadcast. on the BBC. And the best that they can do is, well, we're having an investigation. Now, I'm a free speech person, but I can't help but again, point out the drastic difference between entreatment of people. If it seems that you're of this particular political persuasion or you're of this particular ideology, you get an investigation. But if you're anything else, then you get a police visit at your house. I just feel like that's very, very lopsided. Our partners that help bring you the program, our friends at Patriot Mobile. It is the only Christian conservative cell phone service provider available. at all. And if you have not switched to Patriot Mobile, do not even know what you're doing. Because your money, if you have not switched, your money is actually working against you actively. 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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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Because so many men have no idea about what women go through, right? We haven't been researched, we haven't been considered, and it still affects the way a lot of male lawmakers, a lot of male politicians, a lot of male religious leaders think about the issue of choice as if it's just about The fetus, the baby, but women's reproductive health is about our life. It's about this whole complicated reproductive system that does the least of what it does is produce life. It's a very important thing that it does. But you only produce life if the machine that's producing it, if you want to, you know, whittle us down to a machine, if the machine is functioning in a healthy, streamlined kind of way. But there is no discussion or apparent connection between the two.
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That's one of the most asinine things I think I've ever heard anyone say. older than me say, I can't, it doesn't even, that doesn't even make any sense. And she's the one who's whittling down, that's former First Lady Michelle Obama, she's the one who's whittling women down to being nothing but machines. And to say that, well, you know, that's the least of what it does is life, that's the whole purpose of the system. What is the purpose of having those organs if not for that purpose? What is the purpose of having ovaries if not for that purpose? What's the role of the uterus if not for that purpose? This complete diminishment, this is not unlike how trans activists try to diminish women. And this is where they're incredibly similar to third and fourth wave feminists to try to diminish the ability of women. Men cannot do what women can do. And here this woman is trying to downplay the major difference between men and women. The one thing that men cannot do, which is grow and nurture life. And they want to rob women of that distinction as well. Rob women of being able to celebrate that distinction. This is why I say they're completely the same as trans activists. Because they want to rob women of our distinct capabilities. They want to rob women of our distinct capabilities and rob us of that distinct individual trait. When I heard her say that, when I was listening, the first time I saw that sound bite, I thought, do you think that's the least? What is the point of the system then if it's not to do that? What is the point of having all of that if not for that purpose? It's just to have a uterus for fun? You go through all of that for fun? She tried to backtrack because I think as she was saying it, she realized how insane she sounded. That, well, you know, and it's a great thing, but there's no, no, it's an amazing thing. It's an amazing thing to be able to do it. It's amazing that women have that ability. It's amazing that women are set apart in that manner. So I, the whole thing and her, her approach to her perspective of it, that's just shocking. No, it's the least, no, it's the greatest thing that a person can do. That a woman can do. That's the whole purpose of that system. You know, it's to be able to have that and diminish it. And how does that even sound to women who struggle with fertility issues? That she just downplays it like that. Oh, that's like the least of what. Wow. Way to diminish what so many women have in their hearts and minds. Good night. I don't know what she's been doing lately. But she does this podcast, and I don't know if she's trying to join the commentariat or what it is, but every single episode that I've seen, or every, not episode, but clip that I've seen of her, it's always her complaining about something. She's complaining about, oh, well, the way that women are viewed. And no one talks about it. Everybody talks about it. I have grown up hearing bitching and moaning about this is what women endure. And I say this as a woman who's gone through stuff. But, oh, my gosh. Well, you know, if you're going to just try to whittle us down to being a machine, that's what you're doing. You're trying to whittle women down to every bad experience that they have in life and use that exception as the universal. We have a lot more on the way. Second hour coming up. Don't go anywhere. Think about the last movie that you saw that inspired you and kept you thinking long after the credits rolled. Movies have the power to change individuals, communities and culture. And that's why I'm telling you about Angel Studios. This is the studio that had the courage to bring the world the sound of freedom. So how can you be part of it? Well, you can join the Angel Guild. King of Kings, an animated story about the life of Jesus, is now streaming on the Angel app. And when you watch King of Kings, it's going to move you. It's beautiful, it's powerful, and it's unlike anything else that's out there. It opened first on April 11th and broke records and earned an A-plus CinemaScore. So as a premium Guild member, you can watch King of Kings and access... fan curated films and receive two free tickets to every theatrical release and the best part is that you are part of deciding what stories get told next experience the power of king of kings a film that's moving hearts and inspiring faith visit angel.com slash dana to watch now and be part of this life-changing movement by becoming a guild member that's angel.com slash dana
SPEAKER 09 :
You mentioned the diversity of your district, including a lot of Jewish constituents. Mamdani has made comments that some have said veer towards anti-Semitism. His initial statement after October 7th, he criticized the Israeli government but didn't criticize Hamas. He defended the use of the word globalize or the phrase globalize intifada. And he even said that the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu should be arrested or he would if he were mayor, Netanyahu if he visited New York City. Do these things concern you?
SPEAKER 19 :
Globalizing the Antifata by way of example is not an acceptable phrase and he's gonna have to clarify his position on that as he moves forward. With respect to the-
SPEAKER 17 :
No. Yeah. You think he's going to have to? So Jeffries and all the other all these other Democrats, they are having a time trying to get this trying to kind of justify or defend this candidacy of this dude, New York, who's getting a lot of attention. That man, Danny, welcome back to the program. Top of the second hour. Dana Lash with you. And he was this was on MSNBC. Somebody 11 to that point. He's refusing to condemn. The any of that. I mean, I think that this kind of clarifies it enough. Don't you think? Audio somebody 11.
SPEAKER 14 :
Do you condemn that phrase, globalize the intifada?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's not language that I use. The language that I use and the language that I will continue to use to lead the city is that which speaks clearly to my intent, which is an intent grounded in a belief in universal human rights. And ultimately, that's what is the foundation of so much of my politics, the belief that freedom and justice and safety are things that to have meaning have to be applied to all people. And that includes Israelis and Palestinians as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
But do you actually condemn it? I think that's the question and the outstanding issue that a number of people, both of the Jewish faith and beyond, have. Do you condemn that phase, globalize the Intifada, which a lot of people hear is a call to violence against Jews?
SPEAKER 11 :
I've heard from many Jewish New Yorkers who have shared their concerns with me. especially in light of the horrific attacks that we saw in Washington, D.C. and in Boulder, Colorado, about this moment of anti-Semitism in our country and in our city. And I've heard those fears and I've had those conversations, and ultimately they are part and parcel of why in my campaign I've put forward a commitment to increase funding for anti-hate crime programming by 800%.
SPEAKER 17 :
So he didn't answer the question. I mean, he's good, but he's not that good at dancing around it. I mean, Gavin Newsom is better at dodging issues than he is. And so he just makes it look awkward. And it's really trying of your patience. So do you condemn it? Well, I mean, it's not the language. That's not what we asked if that's the language you would use. We're asking you, do you condemn that phrase? We don't give a rat's ass about the language you need. Do you condemn this phrase? Well, you know, and that's not a part of what I am, which is, you know, my I mean, that was some Kamala Harris level salad right there that you guys just got. That was some that was some serious Kamala Harris type like dodging and ducking to try to not answer that question. And I mean, that's the clarification right there. He of course, he believes this stuff. He absolutely endorses it because he's not condemning it. I mean, he he all but shouts at himself. I mean, that right there is enough. He didn't answer the question. He won't answer the question. He thinks, well, you know, and then it's what I'm definitely hearing from people in my voters in my area. OK, that's not what we asked. Did you condemn the phrase? And I wish, you know, Kristen Welker would have would have drilled down on him a little bit more than what she did. She came back a second time. I was like, yes, but the issue is condemning. Do you condemn the state? And he still wouldn't answer her. I mean, she should drill him on this. Well, yes, but you didn't answer the question yet. And this is really the whole point of why you're sitting here. Do you condemn it or not? Yes or no? I don't want to hear about, well, I've heard from people or it's not the language I would use. Do you condemn it? If it's not the language you would use, then you should be able to condemn it unless you share the sentiment and you're just too cowardly to use it. And you're trying to convince people that, you know, you are. He's trying to triangulate. He's trying to act like he's above the issue, but also part of it. Have some balls. Either say, yeah, I totally endorse that, or, oh, no, I don't endorse it. But have the courage of a conviction to take a stand. Gosh, this guy is so sleazy. All the people that are falling all over him to be fluffers for communist government is just amazing to me. And what a dodge. Well, do you condemn it? Well, you know, I've heard from, that's not what we asked. Do you condemn it? Yes or no? It's really simple, really simple to answer this question. But that's his candidacy. Well, I, you know, audio somebody 12. Listen, this is communism. This is communism. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 11 :
what the purpose is about this entire project. It's not simply to raise class consciousness, but to win socialism. And obviously raising class consciousness is a critical part of that. But making sure that we have candidates that both understand that and are willing to put that forward at every which moment that they have, at every which opportunity that they are given. We have to continue to elect more socialists and we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism. There are also other issues that we firmly believe in. whether it's BDS, right, or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production.
SPEAKER 17 :
So, I mean, it's Little Hitler. Hearing him do this, I mean, he looks like Little Hitler with this. There's more, but wait, there's more. Audio Soundbite 14, listen to this.
SPEAKER 18 :
So the third holy grail of taboos in American politics, you have socialism, you have Islam, and then you have Palestine. And you are really going for the trifecta. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Tell me, why is Palestine a part of your politics?
SPEAKER 03 :
When you grow up as someone especially in the third world, you have a very different understanding of the Palestinian struggle.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, they elected terrorists, so don't elect terrorists. I mean, it's pretty simple to understand that basic reference. This is a guy who is a he's a communist. And he I mean, he's he's trying to not be a little Hitler or he's trying to act like he's not. I mean, I don't know how you say this stuff. This is like some scary. I mean, he said his goal is to elect more socialists. He wants to be I mean, just so everybody knows, Nazis were socialists. Nazi was national socialism, national socialism, Nazi. That's literally where the origin of that comes from. I mean, this Marxist concept of seizing the means of production. Oh, my gosh. I he I don't mean again, Nebo baby that's never worked a day in his life and only became a citizen seven years ago. Why is it that people that come from totalitarian regimes that come from these these countries to the United States want to recreate that here in the United States? I mean, he's an authoritarian. His answer is always government. We have to seize the means of production. We have to elect more socialists. And socialism and communism are just basically two different pieces of glitter on the same turd. I really don't know how else to put it. It's the same. It's all the same thing. It's all the same thing. There's like everyone tries to act. Oh, well, there's nuances here. It all ends the same way. Come on. It all ends the same way. And he had said, oh, BDS, that's the movement against Jewish people. So he's and he's got all of these soundbites previously. This was a video that he was on video for a conference in 2021. And that's where that soundbite comes from, where he's he's saying that we have to elect more socialist. And like his sentence, other issues we firmly believe in, whether it's BDS, et cetera. I mean, again, that's that's a. a Hamas born movement as well. It's the boycott, uh, divestment and sanctions movement. And they tried to, uh, they target Israel. They target Israel for what Hamas does. The democratically elected Hamas in Gaza, they target them for, they target Israel for what the democratically elect Hamas does to Gazans in Gaza. Make that make sense. I don't know. This, um, This guy, I mean, he would only play out of New York. I mean, obviously, you can't have someone who would be as appealing to New Yorkers across the nation if you took him out of New York. But that's not the point, right? So this guy, and I hear a lot of people say, you know what, that's just New York, and it's not going to change anything anywhere else. I really want to caution you against that. Let me give you a couple of examples. So One example, I think everybody remembers Wendy Davis, right? Wendy Davis in Texas and how like 10 years ago or so she was running. She was trying to run for governor. She was trying to run for a number of races. She didn't have a shot in Hades of winning, but that wasn't the point, right? The point was they were going to use this lightning bolt candidate who did not have a shot at all whatsoever in winning any of these races for which she was running, but they were going to use her as a way to seed the ground and register voters and raise money and start And having a repetitive footprint in the minds of voters in areas that normally would not consider candidates of that political persuasion. So they the goal was never to win and they knew they weren't going to win. And she understood the game that was being played. Then a few years later, they had Beto O'Rourke, right, the Irishman whose dad wanted to appropriate a Mexican identity so that they could try to trick voters into thinking that his super white green eyed son, who was a slacker and apparently got in trouble for DUI and all this other stuff, that he was, you know, he was someone who was Hispanic in background, which he wasn't. And they ran Beto O'Rourke. He kind of had to be a willing stooge in a respect. They ran Beto O'Rourke for the same purpose that they ran Wendy Davis. He was supposed to cede the ground, register voters, and raise money. And they were specifically targeting the district in which we live. We live in the last large urban red county in the entirety of the United States. And so it has been a target for the left for quite some time. I mean, it's a reason why we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in school board fights here. Everything is a fight. Everything is a fight here down to like the most minuscule race that actually wouldn't even cost anything in any other part of the United States to file or run or defend or whatever. But here it's like a big ordeal. So they ran Beto O'Rourke to continue seeding the ground and to be repetitive. And it's like all a psyop to get people familiar and to get them acquainted with the idea of possibly having someone in that shared space. It's all a psychological thing. op that's all that's exactly what it is problem with Beto though is he like actually took it seriously like he didn't fully understand the game he thought oh wow I guess I really can win not realizing that he was just a tool to get to the point of running a better candidate for them in that in that space and so they ran in once and then he did it again and then he kept trying to run races that he had no and then he ended up you know kind of shooting himself in his own foot because he was just he's not he's not an appealing candidate in that way So this is like... I use this and I apply this to Mandani in New York. Yes, it's just New York. However... And nationally, one of the reasons why I think some Democrats are attacking him is because they want the appearance of there being disparate ideologies on the left when really they're all kind of on the same page. But they want this guy in the minds of everyone. They want him in the minds of everyone talking about BDS. They want him in everybody's minds talking about capitalism. quote unquote, Palestine. They want them in everybody's minds talking about seizing the means of production so that, again, much like the way that they did with Winnie Davis and Beto O'Rourke, they want people used to this guy and this kind of ideology, not even him necessarily, but this ideology in that space so that it becomes less and less shocking when they hear it. It's like the frog in the pot of boiling water. So you get more and more used to it to then at some point it becomes, oh, well, maybe it's something for some voters to consider. That's the end game here. We have a lot more on the way as we move towards headlines and the folks who will bring you the program. It's the folks over at Relief Factor. If you are dealing with aches and pains every day, you're not alone. 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SPEAKER 24 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 17 :
This is like the most unfrench thing I've ever heard of. They're banning smoking in schools and parks and beaches. They want to protect kids. So they're banning smoking because it is still very much a smoking culture. And so interesting. But they said that they have to do it to protect the younger generations. It's going to be everywhere. Saint-Tropez all over France. They want to ban it everywhere. And that's what they're looking to do. And they said they would have fines punishable, punishable by fines up to one hundred fifty three dollars, essentially one hundred thirty five euros. Despite the French Ministry of Health saying that they would have a education period, they said, no, that's already it's from July 1st. So it's already in effect for the first few days. Very interesting. So that's changing. Let's see. Delta is warning of continued disruption after the Atlanta airport. At the Atlanta airport after severe storms caused canceled flights and the evacuation of an air traffic control tower. They were dealing with some pretty hardcore storms. Severe weather battled their international airport over the weekend. They had hundreds of cancellations, the evac of a traffic control tower. Everything was still disrupted Saturday. They said that they were still experiencing some disruptions, obviously canceled flights, delays, all kinds of stuff. Then they had to have additionally 100 Delta aircraft that was required by federal law to be inspected after hail because they said there's and they're still dealing with cancellations as a result of that. Sometimes, you know, weather's not what they could control. Tesla's newly launched robo-taxi service experiences driving issues and traffic problems, according to new reports. The videos that are out there show the vehicles, these self-driving vehicles, braking suddenly, entering wrong lanes, driving over curbs, things like that. They said that one video showed a robo-taxi that drove, like, headfirst into oncoming traffic for six seconds. It's kind of scary. And another one, they braked suddenly for no reason, and the passenger jerked forward, and all their stuff fell onto the floor. Yeah, it's still... I would not want to be the guinea pig for autonomous rides. I just don't want to be the guinea pig for things like that. Like what? Just... No, I wouldn't. Like as a passenger. Like it's one thing if you have... I think if you're shipping or like a courier service maybe, but... I don't know. Mega Millions ticket holder wins the record-breaking $348 million jackpot in Virginia. This stuff never happens to us, Steve. It never happens to us. $348 million. And they said the life-changing ticket was the largest in their history and sold at a convenience store 85 miles northeast of Richmond. I hope that person immediately is smart about it and hires someone to help manage their windfall and invest and does all that stuff. Smuckers, they're removing all the artificial colors from their jams and all other products. This is all a part of making America healthy again. They said they are going to remove all the synthetic dyes from foods. sold to K-12 schools by the next school year. They said that the majority of their products were already free of synthetic dyes, but some still have them in them, including the sugar-free jams and the ice cream topping lines. So they're doing a lot of those changes on that end. Coming up, Congressman Chip Roy. Stick with us as we move our partners that help bring you the program. All Family Pharmacy. Great website. If you need a bookmark, save it forever. I've used them so much. You can get your emergency kits. You can get your daily medications, your antibiotics, the whole nine yards. And they're also offering a summer sale that's 20% off of your entire order. No insurance required. Licensed doctors in all 50 states. They're not gatekeepers to your health and the medicines that you need. I've used them for antibiotics to help with strep throat. And you can get your ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, all the stuff that you need at allfamilypharmacy.com. And Make sure to use code Dana to get 20% off of your entire order. And you can get fast shipping right to your front door. Most everything is like in two to four days, but you can get it overnight if you need it because they understand your health is important. And sometimes getting these medications in a timely fashion is critical. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and get 20% off promo code Dana 20. Make sure you use a coupon to save 20% allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana coupon code Dana 20 to save 20%.
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keep your finger on the pulse with the dana show podcast delivering timely news with insightful analysis whenever you want straight to you on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcasts welcome back to the program you can listen coast to coast on a station near you also uh stream the radio program channel 347 direct tv the chats at rumble i was thinking i was sitting here thinking why in the world do we have this
SPEAKER 17 :
And maybe I'm, you know, in the dark on something, this self-imposed July 4th deadline with the bill that was in the Senate. Like, for the life of me, trying to understand why in the world was it – why was everyone trying to get it done by July 4th? Is it because it's so heinously bad that they needed the cover of Independence Day in order to pass it, ironically? This is my first thought on that, because there is a big problem still with this bill. I don't think it was actually made better by going through the Senate. We were promised that it was going to be made better. And we were going to see like there's going to be more in savings. You're going to have suppressors. You're not going to you're going to have all of that remedied. Well, actually, the suppressor issue, all they did was remove the fee for it. But it still comes. They removed the tax on it, but it's still under NFA. So that's. completely asinine to even have that structure and call it a win. And that was after the Senate parliamentarian was saying, well, technically, it's not germane to the budget, so we can't use it in this process. It's a tax. It's absolute. That's the entire structure of it to protect it from as a gun control regulation. So some of the biggest critics of this bill are people I like, which is why I don't feel like I'm, you know, wrapping myself in tinfoil because I don't like this bill either. Congressman Chip Roy out of the great state of Texas, Texas's 21st congressional district. He joins me on what he's probably a beautiful front porch. He's getting ready to enjoy this nice afternoon. Congressman, always good to see you. Am I is that right? Because I don't understand why they had this like Independence Day deadline to get this thing to the Senate. What was the point of that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I wish I was enjoying it on a porch in Texas. I'm in D.C., and I've got my son with me, though, and I'm picking him up at an event, so I've got to go get him in a second. But look, and then I'm going to head to the Hill and go see what the Senate does, because I think the Rules Committee is meeting tomorrow. But you're exactly right. This is an arbitrary deadline that has been set in place for political pressure. I understand why. I think the president wants to move this along, and so he sets dates that he wants to achieve those results. In my view, we still need to get the bill right. And right now, I don't think the bill is right. I didn't come to Washington to make deficits worse. And as much as I want the tax cuts to be extended, and I do, as much as that is important for the average hardworking family, it is, as much as I think that we've made some improvements on Medicaid, that we've done some good on the Inflation Reduction Act subsidies, We're still far away from where we need to be. My read of the bill, as I understand it currently coming out of the Senate, is that it will miss the mark on the House framework by about $650 billion over 10 years. plus interest and if you add the interest in especially at higher rates it means we will add well over a trillion dollars to the deficit i didn't come to washington to do that dana i also thought we should have gotten better results on the gun issues that you talked about the uh silencers obviously the short barrel issue but bottom line is we've got to get this right for the american people and the kids right now can't afford a house right our kids they're staring at mortgages The average age of the homebuyers going up because the world is looking at our debt and saying we're not going to invest in American bonds like we used to because we're 37 trillion in debt and we're being irresponsible. So we've got to keep holding the line in Washington. And that's that's why these votes are important. Rick Scott's doing a good job trying to make some changes in the Senate. So is Mike Lee. So is Ron Johnson. And hopefully we can hold the line. But I'm not ready to vote for this bill as it currently is.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And that's because it all has to come back to you all as well. You mentioned that it's it misses the House framework. And what what I don't understand about that is, is they for the tax cuts, the way that I read it in the in the bill as it as it was going through the House. They were all temporary anyway, with everything set to expire in 28. And they still could not get the cost down through the CBO, which I know was like AI, you know, you prompt it and it spits back exactly what you prompt it with. So I, you know, I get it that there's kind of a gamesmanship there. But at the same time, they still couldn't even get it under. And that's even by making those tax cuts temporary.
SPEAKER 15 :
So that's an interesting thing that we could nerd out on, and I'm not sure how much your audience wants us to dive into it, but let me just say in simple terms, I ask the people that I trust, people who used to work for President Trump in his world of economics, right, to go run through the numbers for me. And tell me, what is the actual result here? If you assume all tax cuts are eventually going to be permanent and extend in perpetuity. For example, in the House, we only have the no tax on tips provision for four years. We only have the reductions in taxes on Social Security for four years. There are other provisions that we only extended for four years. And by the way, the gimmick they just employed in the Senate was they just struck a deal on the salt. Right. The state and local tax deal. So they could give a benefit to the New Yorkers to protect those high tax jurisdictions instead of it being 10 years.
SPEAKER 17 :
They're doing it for five in Alaska and Alaska as well with Murkowski.
SPEAKER 15 :
And they do all of this to make it cheaper, right? Because it scores in a shorter window. But just for the lay person out there, that's fake, right? Because what happens is if you look at the total cost of this, do you think in five years, we're gonna be able to say no to extending those tax cuts? Of course not. So you gotta score the whole thing to the perpetuity of the entirety of the 10 years. And so I look at this and I say, overall, this thing is going to increase deficits by probably a couple of trillion dollars. That's not good enough. We need to constrain the spending further. We can do it on the map and the money laundering schemes and Medicaid. We can do it. For example, the Senate took out we had a tax on remittances for people who are here illegally sending money home to their home countries. That's twenty five billion dollars. We could do it by making sure that we have all of the Inflation Reduction Act subsidies repealed. There's still $400 or $500 billion on the table. So we could get our job done. We could do it the right way. We could extend taxes. And then we'd have an actual big, beautiful bill. But we don't yet. And that's the problem.
SPEAKER 17 :
That is the problem, and I think that a lot of people, they just want the immediate satisfaction of getting something and saying, oh, we got these cuts in. But do you, though? Again, it all sunsets, and then you're raising the debt ceiling by what? I mean, $5 trillion. This is crazy. This is money that I can't even comprehend.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Dana, and this is the thing. I mean, I've been having some intense fellowship, as Speaker Johnson likes to call it, with the White House. And I get it. They want this done. The president wants it done. He wants the tax bill. He wants the debt ceiling so he can get busy doing his thing. And he wants to be able to get the border money. Tom Homan does. You know what? I do, too. So do you. But what I didn't do is come to Washington to continue to rack up the credit card that is driving up interest rates, driving up the cost of housing, driving up inflation and making it toward the American economy is not something the rest of the world looks at as something that is strong and healthy. I know the president has a great agenda that will get things moving again. I want to accelerate that. I want the border money. I want to vote yes. But I can't vote yes just because they say I have to. I can't vote yes just because everybody says we got to get it done by July 4th. I have a responsibility to look at this objectively and say, guys, are you doing the right math? And I'll just tell you right now, I don't think the math is correct yet. So rather than forcing it through this week, we should have the conversations we need to with the Senate, see what they do, review the bill, find where we can find savings, find where we can adjust what we're doing on tax policy and make the math actually add up.
SPEAKER 17 :
We're talking with Congressman Chip Roy. You went after, I thought justifiably, the Senate parliamentarian and then also the majority in the Senate who could do something about the parliamentarian for the people who don't know whether a lot of people they're like, well, maybe this doesn't affect me suppressor. But it still does. It's you're talking about a structural framework that's that's designed to enforce some kind of unconstitutionality on people with the suppressors and under NFA, SBR, short barrel rifles, all that. So I guess they're trying to advertise it as a win because they weren't able to get away with the with the fee that you pay the tax stamp. It's literally called that to the government so that you pay them to exercise your constitutionally affirmed right. And that's considered a win, even though it's still under NFA, because the parliamentarian was trying to argue that it wasn't germane to the. I mean, it's a tax. So why can't the majority congressman tell the parliamentarian to step off, you know, and long walk off a short pier?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, see, the point that I was trying to make is that we have the majority in the Senate. The reality is there's a block in the Senate who don't want to achieve all of the things that you and I want to achieve. They don't want to take the hard positions. They would love to hide behind the parliamentarian. to not do the things that we all want them to do. That's what's really going on. Look, parliamentarian may be making some bad rulings, but then the Senate just needs to act. You can overrule. You can make better arguments. You can restructure the bill. You can draft it in such ways to make it work. But the bottom line is you can't just keep punting and then going, oh, well, it's the parliamentarian's fault when you've got members of the Senate who are making policy choices. Right now, as we speak, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Tom Tillis, several others in the Senate are trying to offer amendments to strip away the improvements that we've gotten on the Inflation Reduction Act and the subsidies. They're trying to strip away the improvements we've gotten on Medicaid. Because every Republican will always campaign on balancing the budget. Every Republican will look you in the eye, Dana, and say, oh, don't shut the government down. Don't worry about the discretionary spending. That's peanuts. We've got to go take care of the long-term spending, the mandatory spending, entitlements. Well, we've got Medicaid on the table, and Republicans are running to the hills because they're going back and listening to hospitals. They're saying, we can't do it without all that federal borrowed money. Yes, you can. We've got to restructure it so that only the vulnerable are getting cared for. The able bodied aren't. You're no longer enriching the CEOs of these fat cat hospital corporations. You're no longer throwing money in insurance companies and you're actually making states have skin in the game. That's what Republicans are trying to do with work requirements and reforms. We should go farther. And instead, the Senate wants to retreat. I know that's a lot. But the short version, if you're listening out there and you're taking your kids to summer camps or to school, that's what I'm doing. I'm balancing all that as a dad. And I'll just tell you this, if you don't know what to do with all this stuff, it's pretty simple. This bill, in my opinion, will raise the deficits in order to get some tax cuts that we want, some tax cuts that we don't necessarily need, some reforms that are good, but some reforms that we're leaving on the table. That's the bill. You say, well, is that a compromise? In my opinion right now, it's not a compromise worth taking because the deficits are too high and we can't afford that anymore.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's a great point. I think that's a great explainer of this. Last quick question for you, Congressman, as we roll into Independence Day weekend. How weird is it that we're dealing with this bill and it's Independence Day? I mean, the optics, I feel like, you know, some of the people in the GOP get it so wrong every every time it's go. Where does this end? Because there's going to be so much pressure brought to bear on Republicans to support this Senate to POTUS's desk. Everyone's going to be called like a squish if they don't support what no like back in the Tea Party days, we would say is like, you know, to fail type stuff. So where does that leave us?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, first of all, it is the 249th birthday of the country. And we're immeasurably blessed to be Americans. And I'm proud of it. I was supposed to be in Texas this week. I wish I were. But we also have a job to do. And if I need to be here every day until we get this sorted out, I'll do it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, because they're making you read through the whole thing. And they've never done that before. They've never. I mean, you've already read it. This is the first time they've ever wanted to read through a bill.
SPEAKER 15 :
We, well, here's the thing. We know what we need to do. We just gotta have the backbone to do it. But what we can't do is just jam it through for an artificial optic. And with all due respect to the White House and with all due respect to my Republican friends and leadership, let's get this right. I think we've set a structure that can create a path to success. The American people, conservatives, Republicans, want us to reduce the debt, reduce deficits. They want their tax cuts. They want to be reasonable. They want to make sure that we get good policies. They want fairness. They want the able bodied to have to work. These are all the things we're trying to do. Let's secure the border. Let's do the common sense stuff. There's a lot that's good in the bill, but there's a lot that's bad. Too many games, too much pork, too much spending, too many gimmicks. We need to get rid of those things, do our job, eat some of the hard boats, right? Go back to your hospitals and say, we're going to have to figure this out. But there ain't no free lunch. And too many Republicans want to pretend there is. And I'm not going to go along to get along on this. And I didn't come here to, you know, hold on to my election certificate for the sake of it. I came on here to win. So that's what I intend to try to do.
SPEAKER 17 :
There you go. Congressman Chip Roy, God bless you, my friend. Have a wonderful Independence Day. I hope you get back to the freedom of Texas to celebrate some of it and safe travels.
SPEAKER 15 :
We'll do it. God bless you and Chris and everybody. Take care.
SPEAKER 17 :
Take care.
SPEAKER 24 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 17 :
So this is interesting. Miami New Times has a story about former Congressman Matt Gates. According to the New Times, quote, they said that a TikTok user recorded him scrolling through his text messages and saw his laptop screen on a plane. They were on a plane. The Miami New Times reports, quote, showing his contract with a firm associated with Trulieve to provide administration related guidance. In response to a comment on the video, the user posted the photo with the caption, quote, gigantic font, no privacy screen on his phone. nor on his laptop, end quote. The file, says the Miami New Times, on his laptop, titled PYG of Council Agreement LP. and this is per the New Times, states that the former Florida representative will provide legal representation, consulting and administrative related guidance. And it discusses, quote, non-refundable payments on the commencement of representation and that he's going to get apparently six figures. And it doesn't it says he appears to be entitled to additional super success fee. So very interesting. Very, very interesting. That whole story that's on the Miami New Times. A Florida man was headbutted by a shark while surfing. I've never heard of that. That's in New Smyrna Beach, Florida. They are the shark bite capital of the world. But even this kind of goes above that. Surfer Darren Kay, he was surfing near Ponce Inlet, and he was literally struck in the face by a leaping shark. in a bizarre collision. And the crazy thing is that it was captured on video. It shows the shark breaching the water as he's riding what's known as a fish surfboard, which is already also kind of funny. It's kind of ironic, right? He goes, you're riding a fish and the shark tries to get your fish. And he kind of brushed it off. But yeah, it jumped up and literally leapt out of the water and hit him right in the head. So he's fine. I mean, and they think the shark's fine. I mean, it's just kind of a weird... kind of a weird thing to have happen. But I would imagine that that does happen. At least he wasn't bitten. So that's, you know, there's a good thing. Let's see. Florida man who allegedly forged his deceased mother's checks and expressed a dislike for his aunt. This family sounds all manner of messed up. I think we may have had this last week. But it's a law and crime story. This guy stole thousands of dollars from his late mother's estate. And according to the sheriff's office, this has been going on for like over a year, apparently. And I guess it's sad. I mean, the way that this happened, I guess some of his family members found out. Also, tomorrow, I'll save this one. A guy convicted of free 19 sharks was pardoned by POTUS. We'll get into that tomorrow. Stick with us. Third hour on the way.
SPEAKER 12 :
Is the Democratic Party a left of center party?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think you've just hit the I think this is the identity crisis that they have. I think it's just a collection of people that don't like Trump. Right now. Right. And that's that served them well in 20. But imagine trying to create a big tent that had AOC and John Kasich in it. Right. You know, or how about or Liz Cheney and AOC? You're sort of going to rip a hole in the middle. Right. As you're trying to stretch that tent.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow. I can't believe I'm saying this, but he is actually not wrong with that assessment. I mean, it's just the Democrat Party is a bunch of Marxist and people who don't like Trump. That's it. I mean, they can't and they can't even articulate why they don't like him. They just don't like him. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of this third hour. Would you believe that in a new survey, apparently. Secretary, mayor. former secretary former mayor new mom whatever poop bitty juice would be a contender i'm trying to wrap my mind around this he would be a contender for a presidential ticket on the democrat side he's narrowly leading harris according to this hypothetical democratic presidential primary it's 16 to 13 percent what gets me is that he's ahead of gavin newsom in the survey how is that even possible How in the world is that even possible? Doesn't make any sense. He would be ahead of Josh Shapiro out of Pennsylvania. Gavin Newsom. I mean, I'm not even going to get into some of the other maybe more palatable to Democrats nominees or different governors, people like Andy Beshear, etc. 23% of Democrat primary voters said that they were undecided in this new survey. It's an Emerson College survey, and I'm shocked at this. Buttigieg leads the Democrats at 16 percent. Now, it's just 16 percent. I told you guys he wanted to run for higher office, right? The question for the poll— was this. Looking ahead to 2020 Democratic presidential race amongst the following candidates, who would you support for the Democratic nomination? And they give you Buttigieg, Harris, Newsom, AOC, Josh Shapiro, Bernie Sanders, Cory Booker, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Beshear, Pritzker, Wes Moore, Amy Klobuchar, Rahm Emanuel, someone else, and Undecided. Undecided is 23%, so Undecided is number one, followed by Buttigieg. How in the world is that even possible? I don't even know how this how in the world is this even remotely? How is he elite? He was a really bad secretary of transportation, a really bad one. You guys remember how he left? Like he took a quote unquote maternity leave. After he bought his babies, they I can't remember how long many months he was out. The big scandal was that during a supply chain disruption, because remember, this was all you know, everybody's kind of coming out of lockdown. So during a supply chain disruption, they could not get a hold of him. And then you had all of these issues at the ports and people protesting. And then the ports were shutting down, were closed with COVID stuff. And then you had the Longshoremen strike, all this. He was MIA because he was on quote unquote maternity leave and no one could get in touch with him. That was a huge, it was in Time Magazine. It was a huge scandal. I know the conservative institution that is Time Magazine. I don't even know why they keep pulling for Harris. Why do they keep bringing her name up? I mean, there is no leader of this party right now. Newsom's trying very, very hard, but he still has not. He still has not made it to the top of the mountain there. But I look at this and this is a weak field. Even amongst the left. They will kneecap themselves in order to satisfy. These inconsequential identity political markers like out of these. I mean, I'm just kind of shocked that Josh Shapiro, who is a leftist and I would never support him for any elected office. But with Democrats, he at least is more palatable to me. You would think to, you know, a Buttigieg or Harris, like even Andy Beshear. He doesn't even come in and like the top five for this. which is wild. But he's, I think he came in, where did he come in at? Oh my gosh, he was only at 2%. He was tied with Pritzker and more. And again, Bashir is another person that would never vote for him. But if you're a Democrat and you're trying to be competitive, and you know that Republicans have a strong bench, you would be thinking at this point, well, how can we manage a race against a strong bench. They kind of did a Hail Mary pass last time by switching out Biden with Harris. And they did not, I'm sure that a Shapiro and a Beshear did not want to jump on the landmine. That was going to be an unwinnable race because you can't change You know, this is not ACDC. Right. This is not like, you know, they found a Brian Johnson. OK, this is not Van Halen where they brought in Sammy Hagar to in place of David Lee Roth. I mean, it's Kamala Harris coming in for Biden for Joe Biden. When you switch something out like that, that late in the game, that is such a signal of no confidence. That's just an unofficial vote of no confidence to everybody else. And so nobody has confidence or the expectation of success by getting behind such a ticket. So now, I mean, I'm looking at this and I was looking at the crosstabs of it. This is their bench. What a weak bench. This is a crazy weak bench. This I mean, that's all they have. That's it. That is all they have. They don't have anything else. I was looking for when they look at their the people surveyed the it's pretty even in terms of Democrats or Republicans surveyed. And it's a pretty sizable amount. So I thought, you know, looking at the data that this was, you know, it was kind of a legitimate that was a pretty legitimate survey. That's why I'm still my jaws on the floor with Pete Buttigieg. This is the weakest bench I've ever seen that they would downplay. Again, if you're on the left and you want to be competitive and you're looking for palatable candidates, you would look at an Andy Beshear. You would look at a Josh Shapiro. Maybe even a Wes Moore. But those are the people that you would look at because they're way more palatable than the other insanities that are suggested. Like Amy Klobuchar, really? Rahm Emanuel has been trying to remake himself as a moderate. I don't know if you've noticed this, but in the past several months, he's been working very, very hard at doing that. Newsom is just up there because he has name recognition. He knows how to pick petty fights and keep his name in the press. He knows how to do this. He gets headlines by not having to do anything, by having other people come on his podcast. And then they'll say something, they cut that out and send it out. He doesn't even have to do anything except have somebody else just go on his podcast and talk. It's a great way for him to keep his name up there without having to do anything political or expend any kind of political capital. So this was I mean, it was actually like a very I thought a very even poll. And with this, this is audio some by seven. This is just again, Gavin Newsom. I just don't think this is this is appealing to average people. middle-of-the-road Democrat voters that are searching for some kind of normalcy within the party that they can get behind. I think if you had a moderate candidate, they would flock to them. And I don't think that Gavin Newsom, well, this is just an example of what they have. This is Gavin Newsom talking to Terry Moran. So you have two people grinding axes against each other. Listen.
SPEAKER 12 :
So when you say those words, Terry, about Stephen Miller, you were right. Excuse my language. You were right. and he is wrong, and it's wrong for us to operate under the old rules. Forgive me for being intense about this, but a lot of people are counting on us to do more and be better.
SPEAKER 06 :
I respect that intensity. That's where we have to find our courage, right? We have to find it there.
SPEAKER 17 :
Now, remember, he was the one who wrote about Stephen Miller at the time, that he was a world-class hater, and then he did this rant, and then ABC ultimately ended up suspending him. So Newsom's like, you were blank right to post that. You were absolutely right. Just the political acumen. I feel like his producers need to do a little bit better of a job with Terry Moran because this really, the only purpose that this is serving, it's not getting Newsom a headline But it's making it look like he's kind of behind the ball a little bit because Terry Moran was old news. He's old news. And he got fired by ABC and nobody's standing behind him except apparently for Gavin Newsom. Just asinine, asinine stuff. So the fact that, again, when you look at that lineup, that weak bench, that weak bench, that's as something else. Did you guys hear this is from Daily Mail? Not a publication that I like, but I thought this headline was interesting nonetheless. So apparently now in Britain, there was a ruling apparently calling a middle aged white woman a Karen is a borderline racist, sexist and ageist slur, says an employment tribunal in Britain. They the term somebody who is excessively like demanding or wants to talk to the manager. The judge goes, well, it's a pejorative and it's true. Seventy four year old Sylvia Constance. She is a charity worker. The ruling came in. It's a case of a black charity worker who accused her bosses of targeting her because of her race and age. She said that they acted. She said that female managers in a complaint written on her behalf. female managers were said to have acted like the stereotypical Karen, having weaponized their privilege and more powerful positions against her. And the employment judge said, we note that the use of the slang term Karen is a pejorative and borderline racist, sexist, and ageist term. And, of course, all this really started gaining popularity under coronavirus during the lockdowns. So the hearing... So this woman, she... said that she was suspended over claims that she was bullying residents and staff, that the lady who, in this case, ultimately this charity worker who accused her bosses of targeting her because of race and age. Then you see in the complaint, like they were saying that she was accusing everyone else of being Karens. I've never seen kind of like a turnaround slap like this before. It's very interesting. So they said that that, I do think it is used that way. I think sometimes you can use it jokingly. But it's slang for just saying that someone is overly aggressively needy in terms of having a complaint satiated, for the lack of a better way to put it. But I have seen I mean, it's interesting now that they're trying that that's been called racist, sexist and ageist slur.
SPEAKER 24 :
And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 17 :
Microsoft is retiring the infamous blue screen of death where it goes, oh, it's recovery. It looks like Windows didn't load correctly. It's a tormented mini Windows user over the past decades. It's now being retired. They're ditching it. It appeared, I mean, they're ditching this feature. They want to streamline the unexpected restart experience. So they want a black colored screen. So that's it's a simplified screen that will appear during, quote unquote, unexpected restarts. And they're going to roll it out this summer on all devices. And they say that it'll reduce reboots to about two seconds for most users. They've by the way, they've used that blue screen. That's been a thing since the 90s, the early 90s. That is how long that they've had that screen. So they haven't updated it that whole time. F1 zooms to $55.6 million opening at the box office, $144 million globally. And then, of course, they had that Megan, the robot Megan, that bombed. It only had $10 million from opening weekend. That's a bad start here in the U.S. But F1, though, is raking it in. They've been doing a lot of heavy promotion of it, though, as well. And, of course, it doesn't. hurt when it's about Formula One, you know, and then you get to go to all the F1 stuff. But they were... Formula One movie teamed with the filmmaker behind Top Gun Maverick as well. So it is the first major theatrical win for Apple Original Films. So this is... They worked with Warner Brothers to do this and they were sharing the marketing duties over it. So overseas it clocked in 88.4 million. So I think this kind of stuff is really important because it's a measure as to where people's interests are and their minds are especially. People want to have fun and they want to be able to root for stuff. That's what a lot of this is indicative of. So very interesting. And it's actually a legitimately original thing. So, you know, it wasn't a rehash of something original. Paul Simon canceled. He's touring still. He's in his 80s. I really don't care about this headline, but he's canceling concerts due to intense back pain. Wow. OK. Beyonce sat in a car suspended in the air during her Cowboy Carter tour in Houston. ABC 13 said that there was a problem, a technical mishap. And so she just kind of, you know, they had to halt their show. Her car tilted over and then stopped. as she was floating above the crowd. And you could hear her say, stop, stop, stop. And they had to have personnel and security rush over. I mean, how do you get something like this wrong? I don't even know, like, how do you make it to where this stuff, I mean, tilted over so she had to, I mean, they could have dumped her out. She could have fallen. I don't know if she was, like, hooked on with a harness or anything after, but that's, you know, goodness. Always, Sonny in Philadelphia, Rob McElhenney, has filed to legally change his name. He said that his name has always hindered him in business negotiations and that in other regions of the world, they can't pronounce his original name. And it's his company. He was his production company was behind Welcome to Wrexham. So he's 48 years old. He says he's going to change his name. I don't even know why you would change your name this late in the game. So he's going to go by Rob Mack. Instead of just Rob McElhenney, it's going to be Rob Mac. Why can't you just do that as a nickname? Because Rob Mac now kind of sounds douchey. Really. Rob McElhenney is fine. It's like so easy to pronounce that name. McElhenney. It's not hard. We have a lot more coming up as we roll towards the bottom of this hour. Stephen Yates joins us. Stick with us.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, we may once again have.
SPEAKER 17 :
Another deal or a deal? I thought we did have a deal, but now it looks like we have a deal deal maybe with China. We're coming in from the Associated Press. The U.S. and China have reached an agreement to de-escalate trade tensions, but not a lot is known about this. One thing that we talked about last week is why is it that you're still allowing so many students to come in on these visas? And why do we still allow farmland to be purchased by CCP, so on and so forth? I don't know if any of that is a part of this new announcement. joining us for insight on this, as always, and he's so incredibly good, our very good friend Stephen Yates. You can find him at yatescoms on X, and he's a senior research fellow with the Heritage Foundation, particularly with China and national security policy, and he served in not one but two previous presidential administrations on this issue. Stephen, always so good to see you. Happy Independence Day. I know we're a couple of days, a few days away, but still, the sentiment extends, especially now. We may... So this is not like... It's the same deal, right? But it's being presented as though we finally have a deal. But we know nothing, right? At least not it's been made public.
SPEAKER 10 :
yeah i'm i'm a supporter of the president and i like the treasury secretary taking the lead on these things i'm not a super fan of every couple weeks saying you've got a new deal that's pretty much what the last one was which is pretty much we've agreed to keep talking and we don't want you to be blackmailing us with rare earths or magnets or some other things that we haven't found a way to strategically decouple from you yet with regard to and so that seems to be where the This back and forth has been present, been very clear. He wants to deescalate tensions. That's a that's a good objective to have. But I think there's still a long way to go to fill in these blanks. And so we await further word from the Treasury secretary or the president and the students and visas. And I think the president sort of with a truth post. kind of brushed that to the side for now. But I am also not a super fan of large numbers of people we don't know going into kind of questionable research areas.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly. I completely agree on that. And this, too, comes on the, I guess, as I feel like we're in the denouement portion of you know, this Israel versus Iran. Did it surprise you that China and Russia were so tough, tough luck, Iran, bye, and just sort of, you know, clearly they weren't really allies.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it didn't surprise me that much. I was a little surprised how open they were about it. I mean, I thought that they would pull the old Matador-Ole move, but they would try to keep it on the down low. But to publicly say, you know, this... BRICS thing, I'm not going to go. I got a cold. I don't know if it's seasonal, you know, whatever. I'm not going to go. And then you want to close out this Strait of Hormuz. I got a lot of oil and natural gas. You're not going to do that, right? And so it just really quickly became clear that Iran was on its own. To me, it was beautiful to see that this sort of alternative to America and its allies is basically a paper tiger for now more of an annoyance but at the same time they still have bad stuff so until the proliferation risk is lower until there's some kind of a change in real government behavior out of Iran and we see Putin maybe have a ceasefire with Ukraine then we're still kind of in the thick of this stuff
SPEAKER 17 :
Now, you bring up a really good point because we heard a lot about we're going to close the straight over moves. And then all of a sudden that went away and nobody talked about it anymore. And I figured that there's no way that they would actually be able to do that. But to see it just disappear so quickly as it did from headlines was was pretty stunning. So clearly someone from all of these other nations, be it Russia and China, probably as well, said, yeah, you're not going to do this. It's not happening.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I think there was a golden fortune cookie that arrived when they cracked it open. It's as Confucius says, this is going to stay open.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Yeah. This isn't closing. It's not. I like that. That's probably exactly how it was done as well. Oh, we're talking with our good friend Stephen Yates at Yates comms. So basically, the big question for everybody is what now with Iran, particularly like what now? OK, we. seem to have at least kneecap them in terms of nuclear, well, going towards nuclear capability. We seem to have kneecap them. But how long does that last with the current regime? And I feel like it places us in a weird spot because I put all the blame on Carter and Democrats for swapping out the Shah with this, you know, super beyond Marxist Ayatollah, you know, the Supreme Burrito over there in Iran. It's switching that out. So it's like, I feel everyone talks about the Pottery Barn rule. You break it, you buy it. I don't want to buy it, but I feel like we broke it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I am really allergic to the Pottery Barn analogy. Colin Powell, I think, ruined that for me back in the Iraq situation. I don't think it was true then. I don't think it's true now. We're America. We'll break things. And if you don't like it, tough beans don't tick us off. And so if it's broken, then you put it back together. It's not my region. And so with this, I think we have to be serious about the idea that no matter who's in charge of Iran, unless there's some... truly profound change, they can revive some elements of their surrogate network. Those have been degraded. We're in a far better position than we've been in years, thanks to some of, whether it was the magical pagers that went off by the Israelis or the pretty incredible strikes they had into Iran, the Hezbollah attacks. I mean, really, a lot of good gardening has been done in the broader Middle East, but there's still bad people. And the for the formal X account of the Ayatollah is still threatening to assassinate Netanyahu and Trump. So apparently he has not felt the full weight of this thumping in order to change his lingo to date.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's a really good point as well with that, because didn't he? I read something where he's basically putting out a fatwa on POTUS, so to speak, which I just I don't know how he I mean, we don't even know if he's alive. I mean, really, we haven't seen the guy. We just hear that he's being moved from place to place. So he may not even be alive and they could just be doing, you know, like a Joe Biden presto change. We have no idea. But I mean, that doesn't seem like it's the position of a strong man.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, it doesn't. And it's whoever's operating the social media account. And, you know, no matter what, they are living on borrowed time in the sense that their air defenses were proven to be very, very. And with the stealth. bombs coming. I mean, it was stealth in every respect. We didn't leak and they had no detection, but also neither did China and Russia. So that alliance didn't give them any early warning either. And so all the way around, I think they're sort of like that, the feeling of being naked and exposed into the world. Yeah. Last question before we're talking with our friend Stephen Yates. Syria, it looks like, well, it was a headline last week and it seemed to suggest that Syria is open to joining the Abraham Accords, which would be...
SPEAKER 17 :
That's a that's a big change for this region. And I can't help but think, you know, back when we were all a little appalled that POTUS was meeting with, he was a former jihadi, the new regime leader in Syria. And I'm not saying that he's a good guy, but I'm saying just for our own interests, it may serve us better than, you know, how it was, because after, you know, they closed air, they closed airspace to all Iranian aircraft. They didn't have the Syrian air defense for help, for support. And then you had POTUS going over there when he was speaking to Middle East leaders and saying that he was going to lift sanctions on Syria, which MBS stood up and applauded because that meant a lot of Arab nations could now invest and there's business opportunities, etc. So this seems like it was very, very structured for. for a long time in advance to box out Iran and the regime at every possible angle. Do you, is that a realistic thing for Syria to come on board? And how has that, I mean, it remains to be seen if it's a force for good in that region, but it seemed to work in our favor so far.
SPEAKER 10 :
It has. And I think it is part of that broader Abraham Accords logic. And it's also part of what I guess we'll call the Trump doctrine of giving a lot of space to your reliable allies and partners in the region. And they have to sort of be the first ones responsible for trying to balance things out. And it was definitely to box in Iran to undermine those surrogates. And those Arab allies did not want Iran's nuclear program to move forward either. So I think we have kind of a division of labor up to Saudi and other Arab allies to make sure Syria doesn't become another. And it is. terrorist outpost. But for now, all of this are pointing to a different Middle East. And so I just take yes and thank you for the moment and see where we get.
SPEAKER 17 :
There we go. Well, happy Independence Day to you, my friend. I hope you have safe travels with any future travel that you have. And it's always so good to talk with you every week. Thank you so much for your insight. We're so grateful for it and for you. God bless.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, John, I talked with Joshua Aaron, who is the longtime tech worker who developed this platform, and he said he really wants it to be an early warning system for people about the location of Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. So he says he does not want people interfering with those officers' activity, but he does want people to be able to avoid them altogether if they want. You open the app. It looks like a map and users can tap the map to report an ice sighting in their area. And then everybody who uses the platform within five miles of that sighting will get a push alert.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, they it's like waves for ice. You know, like the Waze app that you can like find like traffic speed traps or traffic violation or traffic snarls and all this other stuff. It's like that. But for ICE, it's very odd. That was on CNN. And, you know, you keep hearing, well, why do they have to wear masks? Why do ICE agents, why do they have to wear masks? Maybe because you have CNN actively promoting ICE. an app that's identifying their actual you know ice agents in real time especially like particularly when they're when you have ongoing investigations underway i mean they have a 500 increase according to data uh cpb others in assaults because of stuff like this so it's they uh And I mean, it is being promoted by CNN. I don't know how you can say that that's not being promoted there. I mean, basically, you're announcing everyone in that area. Hey, this is where they are. And you're helping people who are criminals evade accountability in the United States. So either you believe that everybody is, you know, the same under the law or you don't. And if we're going to start helping people evade the law, then you're going to have good people. that are not going to want to follow the law because of the inconsistency in its application and that's how you start getting a breakdown of the republic which i think is exactly what the left wants but i will promise you when you have people certain people who choose to not follow the law that is going that's going to be a terrifying element for all these people promoting lawlessness because you're going to find out between the difference between harmless and peaceful and there's a major difference major major difference i mean this is insane uh and the developer i mean just I mean, the thing's called ice block. That's what it's called. And to block lawful actions to bring people who are here illegally and committing further crime to stop it. So I don't know. I mean, the assist. I mean, this is crazy. This is and it doesn't help that you have, you know, law enforcement or, you know, elected officials in states like California and mayors, et cetera, that are helping to promote this stuff. You're helping people evade the law. Yet these people are the loudest to scream about gun control, etc. Speaking of the law, I got to say this. This is actually pretty neat. So... After a lot of people who came here illegally, they in Southern California because of ice, there are apparently a lot of food cart vendors that have left. Well, a lot of teenagers that were pushed out of the market and that really like historically did this as a summer job. Now they're coming back in to take the spots of these food cart vendors. Audio somebody 26 is actually pretty cool.
SPEAKER 01 :
This summer, me and my twin brothers decided that we're going to open up our own bacon wrapped hot dog business called Glizzy Treat. Instead of doing nothing at home, we wanted to make some money and try to do something big. We invested $400 that we saved from working weekends at our family gas station to start it up. It's a pretty big investment for us, but with some hard work and long nights, it will all be worth it. The first day, we were pretty nervous, and there was no customers for the first hour. Then things started to pick up. First, we sold one hot dog, then two, then five, ten, and at the end of the day, we ended up selling over 20 hot dogs, which is pretty good in my opinion. If you want to show us some support, we are located in Long Beach at the American Oil and Gas Station seven days a week from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. Man, they got fresh peppers.
SPEAKER 17 :
And bacon-wrapped dogs. That's amazing. What a great. I mean, I love stories like that. I love that. And I mean, that actually looked pretty good, you know, and they're probably I mean, you can you can create a pretty awesome business from stuff like that. You find a need, you fill a need. You got people who need to eat. They're probably tired of the same stuff all around them. You have a food cart opportunity. That's a great idea. But apparently this is like growing in terms of occurrence. So that's pretty cool. Very, very cool to see stuff like that. I love that. It's the good old American way, right? That actually did look really good. And now I'm hungry. Officially, I'm hungry. Tomorrow, one of the things that we'll dive into is apparently... Well, there is this ongoing investigation as to who was leaking that nonsense about the strikes in Iran. Oh, it only affected X amount or it really didn't hamper their ability to try to become more nuclear capable. Well... Now, people are wondering who is leaking this information because now somebody is leaking that, you know, you have John Ratcliffe, who's, you know, CIA and then CENTCOM. They are the U.S. CENTCOM commander that they're kind of being sidelined from security briefings and some of these other meetings. Who's leaking this stuff? Where's this stuff coming from? One of the bad things about the Trump administration the first time was these leaks like this. You can't have this kind of stuff happen. And we were hoping that this was all kind of battened down and we weren't seeing it again. I don't want to start seeing it now. We have a lot more this rest of this week as we get set up for Independence Day. Today in stupidity, real quick, Steve, what do we got?
SPEAKER 05 :
As Kane is taking his sweet time, having his own private time. So I'm hearing her for him. So I guess this isn't just Dana Carvey, but this is SNL as a whole. So we obviously saw Biden's decline pretty easily. Everybody could notice that. But here's the excuse of how Dana Carvey had to cover Biden in his impersonation.
SPEAKER 07 :
I knew that he was compromised mentally. I mean, it was obvious. But it was a delicate thing in the comedy world. There were a lot of people did not want to do anything that would kind of ding him in like an awkward way.
SPEAKER 14 :
But it's comedy.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's it. That's the key. If I can do Biden, if I can make Biden funny.
SPEAKER 17 :
to everybody then then i am where i want to be and then to make it funny it had to be recognizable and so there's certain things i did not include there you go of course there's certain things you don't include see that that's like that's cowardice though find us youtube facebook like and subscribe sub stack over a chapter and verse make sure you subscribe to that have a great night
