In this profound discussion, Rick Hughes explores the essence of understanding divine destiny and the pivotal decisions that direct us towards spiritual maturity. Through engaging narratives and insightful teachings, learn how to identify and walk through your personal sense of destiny, serving with selfless dedication and aligning your life goals with God's vision. This episode is a must-listen for those seeking clarity and purpose in their spiritual walk, filled with practical advice on enhancing your thinking and production skills for a rewarding Christian life.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to The Flotline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, once again bringing you 30 minutes of motivation, inspiration, education, and you know we do this without any type of manipulation because we don't try to beg for money, we don't ask for money, we're not trying to sell you anything, we're not trying to get you to join anything. We're here simply to give you some accurate information. Information that should help you verify and identify the plan of God for your life if you want to learn it, if you want to know it. And that's up to you. Your job is to orient and adjust to the plan. My job is to get it right, get it straight. No gimmick, no games, no emotional appeal. Just put it out there. You're intelligent enough to understand it. So I pray you'll listen, and I pray you learn as listening to this radio show, The Flatline. We've been on the air for 12 years now, all across the United States, broadcasting in 25, 26 different cities. And it is a fantastic honor to be able to do this for me. What a tremendous thing to see the Lord provide all the funds necessary, even though we don't solicit money, the money is always there. And someone once told me, my pastor many years ago said, If God's in it, God will pay for it. So you don't have to run around holding your hand out. And that's a wonderful relief to me. God has been so faithful to prepare these radio shows, give me the privilege to do it, and actually pay for the shows. So thank you for listening. Thank you for your time. Continue to pray for us as we look to expand to new shows, new venues, new cities where we'd like to go in the future. I have been teaching a series called The Door to Doom. The Door to Doom. If you've been listening to that series, it's been interesting to see how we through a series of bad decisions often destroy our lives. There is a door, and when you walk through that door, as God told Cain way back in Genesis 3, it's the door to sin, and sin wants to control you. And by making some decisions in your life, you can actually destroy yourself. You can walk through the door to doom. We've done six or seven shows on this and they are available if you'd like to hear them. They are available. We can provide an MP3 with those shows. All you have to do is contact us and we'll send it out free of charge. Today I want to talk about a different door. This is not a door to doom. This is the door of opportunity. It's the one door in your life that's an amazing journey, an amazing venture. It's called your personal sense of destiny. It is the door to happiness and fulfillment in your life. And it all begins with the good news that Christ, the anointed son of God, redeemed you out of the slave market of sin. It all begins by understanding your debt to God has been paid. You are free of the penalty of death and the power of sin in your life. And if you will receive Christ as your savior, you in effect will be accepting the offering that he made on your behalf. It is a free gift, compliments of the grace of God. We always quote Titus 3, 5 through 7 that says, "...not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Lord, so that being justified by his grace we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." justified by His grace. Ephesians 2.89, for by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast about it. So when you make a decision to receive Christ as your Savior, you walk through a door. That's the door to happiness. But that's not your personal sense of destiny. Yes, you're going to heaven. Yes, you will have eternal life. I'm talking about a destiny in time. I'm talking about a door in time where you leave your agenda behind and and you move into God's agenda. What a wonderful way to live, to take the monkey off of your back, so you don't have to worry about what you're supposed to be doing. You simply follow the orders from your Heavenly Father as He reveals them by means of the Holy Spirit through the pages of Scripture. Our Lord Jesus Christ had a destiny. I will read you what he said about his destiny. In John 4, 34, Jesus said unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me and to finish his work. The psalmist wrote in Psalm 40, verse 8, I delight to do your will, O my God. Your destiny is to finish the work God allowed you to do. God left you here for a reason. Once you believed in Jesus Christ and received him as your savior, he left you here. He supports you with a host of angels. You even have a ministering spirit that ministers to you. We call them guardian angels. You have a pastor teacher. You have the filling of the Holy Spirit. You have the canon of scripture. You have everything you need to glorify Christ to the maximum in this life. It's all here. So the moment you believe in him, you took off on this fantastic journey, your personal journey. And our Lord Jesus Christ, his journey was from the womb to the tomb. We know that. The tomb did not hold him. He walked out guaranteeing all of us that if he's alive, we will be alive also. That's the guarantee of the resurrection. So our spiritual life, living the spiritual life, understanding that our journey does not imply we'll be successful in our spiritual life. That doesn't mean we're gonna be spiritually mature believers. That depends on our attitude towards the word of God. That's not talking about the faithful provisions of eternal life by God the Father who faithfully provides. But now we're talking about our part. What's our attitude? What's our destiny in time? And what's our destiny in eternity? Well, our destiny in eternity is face to face with God the Father. No more tears, no more pain. The old things will be passed away. But in time, what is your destiny? What is the door that you are to walk through? Because when you have that sense of destiny, when you walk through the door of your personal sense of destiny, it will remove all boredom in your life. You're not going to be bored anymore. Now you have a mission. You have a mission objective. You won't have time for any more self-pity, which can create self-induced misery in your life. How many times have you had a pity party wondering, what am I supposed to do? I know many young people, myself included, when we were young and when I was young, I wondered, what will I do with my life? Where will I go? What will I be? What will I do? And it never dawned on me that God had already picked out a plan for me. God the Father already knew who I should marry, the wonderful lady that I married over 50 years ago. God knew that. And God knew that he provided a destiny for me with a spiritual gift of evangelism and that if I would take his word and learn it and use it, then I could glorify Christ with my gift. So my destiny and your destiny is, will carry both of us through what we call spiritual self-esteem, through spiritual autonomy, and eventually to spiritual maturity. Spiritual self-esteem, you'll be able to act alone. You'll be able to understand the plan of God. You won't need friends to counsel you, friends to tell you what to do. Under spiritual autonomy, you actually understand the plan of God. You don't have to run to people all the time. You don't have to always ask people, what do you think I should do? What does the Bible say I should do? You'll know it. You'll be so confident and it'll be so clear as the Holy Spirit will make it plain to you. It's always amazing to see people that have doubts in their spiritual life about their future, destiny. They don't understand the Bible. They don't understand the plan of God. See, God has a viewpoint will for your life. There's no doubt about that. He has something that he wants you to think, and it's called divine viewpoint. It's called the mind of Christ, and we are to let the mind of Christ be in us in Philippians 2.5 because our strength as Christians comes from the word of God. You know, as ourselves, just us, we're weak. But when we take the word of God and learn it and put it into our soul so that it supports our spiritual life, then we have strength and we can understand the viewpoint well of God That's why we have to learn his word, store it up in our soul, so at the right time it will guide us in every decision that we make. God has a viewpoint will, something he wants you to think. He also has an operational will, and that means there's something he wants you to do in time. He left you here. The operational will of God involves everything you should and should not do if you're going to glorify God to the maximum. the list of do's and don'ts my pastor wrote one day include many wonderful things found in the word of god and the requirement for doing the will of god are the first and second mandates of all divine guidance submit to god's will and learn god's will the operational will of god what does he want me to do where does he want me to be that's the geographical will of god where does he want me to be and this has to do with location However, you never consider location apart from the operational will of God because if you're doing what God wants you to do, then eventually you'll wind up being in the place God wants you to be. Got it? So there is a viewpoint will of God, an operational will of God, the geographical will of God. It's all available for you if you take time to learn it. That's the problem. Most people will not take time to learn it. And it's a shame because that's the way that it is. Now, your personal sense of destiny is related to learning God's protocol plan. Now, the protocol plan of God means that the right thing has to be done in the right way. That's all it means. It's nothing complicated. A lot of people love God, but they don't understand how they operate in the Christian life. A right thing has to be done in a right way. You've heard me say on this show that prayer is a right thing, but there's a right way to pray and a wrong way to pray. So if you're praying the wrong way, that's not going to be answered. And going to church is the right thing, but you can go the right way or the wrong way. You have to understand how God's plan operates and then execute it by means of God the Holy Spirit plus the Word of God in your soul. That gives you direction and you have power. Power and direction equals fulfilling the protocol plan of God. If you don't learn it, how can you? See, this is why the Bible says, study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman at need if not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. You don't want to get to heaven and hear the Lord say, man, did I have a life for you? And you blew it. You missed it. Why? Because you were self-centered. You did not take time to learn God's word. You didn't take time to find out what God had for you. And you just went merrily skipping down the my way highway once you enter that door of your personal sense of destiny you're going to have to leave your agenda behind and move into god's divine plan and purpose for your time on earth t-o-e your toe not the one that's on your foot your toe is your time on earth I did a series of messages called Toe in a local church in Houston, Texas. And that's available. If you'd like to hear that sometime, we can make it available with DVD or MP3. But that's our time on earth. And if we're going to operate in our time on earth, we have to have some skills it's critical that you have these skills because if you don't have for example thinking skills thinking skills means that you have the ability to metabolize the word of god learn the word of god thinking skills spiritual skills production skills they're all important so let's start with spiritual skills Your spiritual skills mean this. Number one, do you know how to be filled with the Holy Spirit? It's amazing when I talk to people and I ask them, what should I do to be a good Christian? They don't ever say you should be filled with the Holy Spirit. They say you should tithe, you should go to church, you should not drink, you should not smoke, you should not chew, you should not cuss, you should not, you should not, you should not, you should not. And it's just a series of works. Very seldom will anyone answer the question. You want to try it yourself? Try it. Go ask your pastor. That's a good way to figure out this. Go ask your pastor, what should I do to be a good Christian? And the first thing he must tell you is if you are not filled with the Holy Spirit, you cannot be a good Christian because the Christian life is not operated in the energy of the flesh. You must understand how to be filled with the Holy Spirit. And that's rebound problem-solving device number one on the flotline of your soul. When you sin, you quench the Holy Spirit and you grieve the Holy Spirit. But when you use 1 John 1, 9, your rebound verse, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us and purify us from all of our wrongdoing. If you use that verse, then you will get back in fellowship with God and back under the filling of the Holy Spirit. Remember the Bible tells you the flesh wars against the spirit and the spirit wars against the flesh and they are contrary. You're not going to do the things you want to do sometimes. Paul said it this way, I don't understand myself at all because I want to do what's right and I inevitably do what's wrong. It's because you have a sin nature. If you understand the filling of the Holy Spirit, the Bible says if you'll walk in the Spirit, in Galatians 5, 16, you won't fulfill the lust of the flesh. So there is a way to overcome sin. The sin nature by rebounding when you do sin and by walking in the spirit during the day of your Christian life, spiritual skills. And then if you take the filling of the Holy Spirit and you add to that. The Word of God that you have metabolized, that you've metabolized like eating food, you metabolize it, it produces energy and you go. If you feed on the Word of God, metabolize the Word of God, and make it a part of your stream of consciousness so that it becomes part of the 10 problem-solving devices in your life, then you have spiritual skills. Then you know what you're supposed to do. You don't have to run and ask the pastor, Pastor, what should I do? I don't know what to do. That doesn't glorify God if you have to ask your pastor what to do. If you don't know what to do on your own, you're going to be wandering around like a lost sheep away from the shepherd. You must learn the Word of God so you can operate on your own. Our Lord Jesus in John 16 told the disciples the same thing. I am about to leave. I am going to go away. And the Holy Spirit's going to come and he will lead you and he will guide you into all truth. Listen, there may be a time your pastor leaves. What will you do? The Holy Spirit will lead you. He will guide you like he led you to this radio show. where you are learning and you're growing. But remember, I'm not your pastor. I'm just a window. I'm just a breath of fresh air. But there are well-qualified pastors, men that have been in the pulpit 20, 30, 40, 50 years that are teaching God's Word consistently more than a few minutes on Sunday morning and more than a few minutes on Sunday night. Getting those spiritual skills is critical for you understanding your personal sense of destiny. And then having the thinking skills to go along with that, which by that I mean being able to comprehend, being able to retain, being able to problem solve and make decisions, and being aware of what's going on around you. These are critical thinking skills. comprehension, memory retention, problem solving, decision making, and awareness. This is what it takes to live the Christian life. You gotta comprehend what God's word says. You gotta put it into your memory so you can recall it later. Thus, when you put it into your memory, you have problem-solving, making skills in your soul. And then when you have a decision that you have to make, how do you make it? Based on emotions? No, not at all. Go back into your soul, you pull up the Word of God, and you say, this is what the Bible says. And there you go. You are aware of your choices. You're aware of your decision. And if you make the right decision, then you glorify God to the maximum. If you make the wrong decision and allow the flesh to take over, then Satan gets a good chuckle and a good laugh and points his finger at God and says, is that your Christian down there? Look at him making an idiot out of himself. And then there are production skills, spiritual skills, thinking skills, production skills. That's the result of the first two. Divine good production as opposed to human good production. Divine good production is taught in 1 Corinthians 3 as gold, silver, and precious stones. Human good production is taught in the same passage as wood, hay, and stubble. All that wood, hay, and stubble will be burned up at the judgment seat of Christ and all the gold, silver, and precious stones, that's divine good production that is rewardable. How do you do it? By being filled with the Holy Spirit and by obeying the protocol plan of God, you produce divine good and it glorifies God to the maximum. Any believer, you or me, who's distracted either from the inside or from the outside We can enter the door to doom if we operate on arrogant skills such as self-justification, self-deception, self-absorption. So we can't operate under those skills. We can't refuse to see what we are and who we are and what our objectives are. you know how you get distracted when you get to doing things and you put the word of god aside you don't study you don't learn you don't apply you don't rebound now you're busy raising your kids you're busy doing your job you're busy enjoying your leisure time you're not studying you're not growing and you have a nice bible you have a nice notebook and you haven't put anything in it much less retained it in your soul If you're not studying God's Word consistently, you're not growing, I promise you. You may be maintaining, but if you're maintaining, you're going to go backwards eventually. You don't want that. You can't afford to be distracted through self-justification. You know, somebody says, well, it's my life. I have to have a life. I have to have some fun. Sometimes when nobody's telling you that you can't have any fun, what I'm telling you is that you need to make time for God's word consistently in your life, maybe even daily in your life. You can do that even on a vacation. You can take a tape with you or a DVD or an MP3, and you can listen, get up and have a cup of coffee, open your Bible, and listen to the Word of God be taught. I'm not talking about reading a five-minute devotion. That's not going to do it. I'm talking about being fed by a well-qualified pastor. Now listen, these arrogant skills like self-justification, self-deception, self-absorption, they will destroy you. Proverbs 1.32 says, for the waywardness of the naive, which is a silly person who's easily persuaded, the waywardness of the naive will kill them, and the complacency of a fool will destroy him. But he who listens to me shall live securely, and will be at ease from the dread of evil. There you go. That's about as plain and about as clear as it could be for you. If you have a personal sense of destiny, you can be identified by these things. Number one, selfless service. You will be available to serve your Lord in any way he wants you to do it, be it a communication gift like pastor, teacher, or evangelist, or be it a member of the local church as a board of deacons, or be a missionary, whatever God wants you to do, that will be priority number one in your life. So he will send you as a church age believer, you've been given a mission. Paul got an assignment, you've got an assignment, And Paul's objective and your objective is to finish the assignment. Paul said in 2 Timothy, I've finished the race. I've run my course. I've done well. I've upheld the standards. Paul made it very clear. And you and I must finish the race too. We must stick with the Word of God. We must uphold the standards of the Word of God. And we cannot afford to get distracted. We must remain steadfast in prayer, Romans 12. 12, remain steadfast in prayer. That doesn't mean you have to get on your knees and prostrate yourself every day. There's nothing wrong with doing that, but there's a way to pray driving your car. Just don't close your eyes. There's a way to pray sitting on the porch. There's a way to pray before you have your meals. Prayer is divine communication with your Heavenly Father. And you have to understand that. We must be steadfast in our prayer where we give adoration to God, where we have supplication for others, we intercede for the needs of others. And then we have our own personal requests, last but not least. Without remaining steadfast in prayer, you lose sight of your objective. It's like being isolated on an island with no way to communicate with anyone. Through prayer, under the filling of the Holy Spirit, with the divine promises of the Word of God, you have direct communication with the throne of God. Now, as you serve the Lord using your spiritual gift, then you press forward. But there's the warning. The warning comes in Revelation where the Lord Jesus Christ said, I know you have an objective, but you're not hot and you're not cold. You're just lukewarm in Revelation 2. Lukewarm Christians are Christians that are kind of there and not there. Your objective is to be there, to be hungry. to go full bore ahead, not to bully people, not to be obscene. As a Christian, that can happen. but to go full bore ahead in your Christian life to search, seek, learn, apply, and glorify God every minute that you can. And you have to find yourself living in a nation like America. You must be subject to the governing authorities of that nation, Romans 13.1. And the Bible says clearly, there is no authority if God did not allow it. So we can take this to the bank. Whoever the president is, whether you like him or not, or you liked his predecessor, that's the one God allowed to be there. And that's the one whose authority you're under. And if you malign and criticize and backbite and slander that authority, you're setting yourself up for divine discipline. We're not allowed to slander anybody. We're not allowed to malign anybody. As a matter of fact, Matthew 7 says, keep your nose out of other people's business or you'll get it chopped off. Because it says with what judgment you judge, it'll be measured back to you again. Matthew 7, 1 through 7. Read it. It's called triple compound discipline. And it's not fun. So that's your personal sense of destiny. It's there in front of you. The objective of your spiritual life is to find it, live it, Use it and glorify God to the max through everything that you do, everything you say, every decision you make. Without that personal sense of destiny, you're just wandering around the neighborhood lost. You don't even know what your objectives are. So I hope you've listened. That door is the door you must go through. That's a critical door because that's the door to opportunity. That's the door to happiness. That's the door to your destiny and why you're here in this life. Please listen. Please learn. And please come back. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flat Life.
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You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. The text line, and I love hearing from you, I'm trying to stay on top of that as much as possible during the show, is 720-605-0647. Thank you for supporting us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff. Taking other people's stuff is called stealing. So it's not compassionate to take their stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, childhood, or their lives via force. And force can be a weapon, policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, this agenda by the World Economic Forum. playing out with the globalist elites, the United Nations. The Colorado State Legislature is certainly carrying the water for that agenda with the help of the governor here in Colorado. But then we're also seeing land use codes and zoning regulations and forced fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, these transmission corridors, all these things. are taking control of our property. And if you can't control your property, you don't own your property. So that's why we are kicking the tires on all of these ideas. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And that's on all KLZ 560 platforms. And so that's KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. So that is all the hot skinning on all that stuff. Our word of the day is verbose. And it's spelled V-E-R-B-O-S-E. And I think I pulled this. I'm trying to listen to words throughout the day and write them down if I think it might be a good word of the day. And I think that Colonel Rutledge had used this in one of our conversations. And it could be using or containing more words than are necessary. Okay. And it seems like those that are wanting to make excuses for all the fraud, waste, and abuse that's been going on in our country have been very verbose in their explanations. So when you have to use a lot of words, you might want to be cautious of what it is that they're really saying. And our quote of the day, thank you to Ginny. from George Washington. I've been doing George Washington quotes for most of the week because he was born on February 22nd, 1732. He died February 11th, 1731. He was American founding father. He was the first president of the United States, commander of the Continental Army, the only six-star general that we have, and presided over the Constitutional Convention. So he is known as the father of our country. And he said this. He said, freedom and property rights are inseparable. You can't have one without the other. And that is George Washington. Let's see. I think we're going to talk about the bill of the day in the next segment. So just stay tuned on all of that. And I want to say thank you to Richard, one of our listeners. I was trying to give information about this. I was something that I thought was pretty exciting I just I had I'd been talking with it somebody about it now is this US this four nations face-off final and hopefully I'm gonna get this right so Richards listing let me know bet in I guess instead have the all-star game for hockey that professional hockey they decided to do this four nations face-off and the very first game last week was U.S. and Canada, and I think it's the goalie had, for Canada, had a perfect record almost. And the U.S. actually won that game. And interestingly enough, this was played in Canada. I can't remember if it was Montreal or Toronto. And the Canadians won. uh booed during the national anthem so tonight is the final game and it works out that it's going to be canada and the u.s again and i think the game is being paid played in boston and my colleague that i was talking with said i hope that the americans uh show some real class And do not boo during the Canadian National Anthem. So that's tonight. It's going to be a big game and pretty exciting. And so I was trying to do a search for it. And what came up was these Invictus games. And I was trying to connect the dots. I couldn't figure out what it was. But the Invictus games, I think, were just occurring around the same time. And this is for people that are handicapped. And so that was going on at the same time. So I got a little mixed up and I thought I better try to correct things. Hopefully, Richard, I got it right. So just let me know if you're out there listening this morning. Let's see. First headline that I wanted to get to was that and this is so we talked with this about this with Lauren Fix yesterday. And this is regarding these emission rules. And she said that there had been an executive order, but that Congress needed to do something about it. So as I was going through headlines last night, I was trying to connect the dots on this. And this is from Reuters. It says the U.S. EPA submits Biden approval of California EV plan to Congress. And this is what Lawrence said needed to happen. And it says it says on Wednesday, it has submitted the Biden administration's approval of California's landmark plan to end the sale of gasoline only vehicles by 2035 to Congress for review and potential repeal. The decision by the Trump administration, which may still face legal challenges, gives the Republican-led Congress a chance to repeal the Biden decision under the Congressional Review Act. As a candidate, President Donald Trump vowed to rescind approvals granted by the EPA to California to require more EVs and tighter vehicle emission standards. Those rules have been adopted by another 11 states. And so this is really huge. We heard it first yesterday on the show. And so that is, I think, one of the first headlines. And I think that that's really important because this has really been an assault upon our freedom of mobility. And so stay tuned on this. This is why elections are so important. And I'm going to be up in Steamboat on Sunday. I have the great honor to deliver the keynote for the Routt County Lincoln Day Brunch. And they've asked me to talk about the documentary, A Climate Conversation, which I have the honor to be the narrator on that. It's the project of Walt Johnson. Walt and Rami are good friends of mine, and Walt is a geophysicist, and he just really wanted to have a conversation about this narrative regarding climate change. And so we brought in experts and scientists and just went through some Socratic questioning. And so if you've not seen the film, you can watch it for free by going to aclimateconversation.com. But what we're realizing is they are using this climate narrative to really go after the things that have made our modern lives so prosperous and that we can thrive. We've taken it for granted. But it's important to understand that. So up in Moffett County... There's one of the coal-fired plants that they want to, here in Colorado, they want to close that within the next few years. And here it is providing reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy. And so all these things, our freedom of mobility, we're seeing our food source under attack, our power source is under attack. And so that's why we have an opportunity right now. But I also want to talk about elections a little bit when I'm up there as well, because I think Colorado is at the tip of the spear of all of the. Things that are just very curious regarding elections, and that is mail-in ballots going everywhere, not cleaning our voter rolls, not being able to audit our elections, questions about how the machines tabulate the votes, how those votes get uploaded to the Secretary of State, no signature verification audits, questions at the post office. This, all these things ask, we have to question our elections. And when we had Peter Berneger on with the Wisconsin Center for Election Justice a few weeks ago, and again, thank you to all of you who contributed so that we have the lawsuit there with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice that was filed on November 1st, questioning the cleanliness of our voter rolls, and then also with United Sovereign Americans. uh... we have that lawsuit filed as well that was filed in september that our elections aren't are not meeting the minimum minimum standards as set forth by congress uh... but peter said that there were five races in california congressional races that were very suspect just think about how that uh... that uh... changes the balance of power so as we're looking here in Congress to reverse the rules that they put in regarding EVs. Well, gosh, just those little different numbers of congressmen and women, whether or not they're Republicans or Democrats, makes a big difference. So these elections really, really do matter. And we've got a lot of work to do on ours here in Colorado. Next headline I wanted to mention, and this is from Fox News. And although I don't find this so shocking, but this was the headline on this. It says shocking government report reveals national debt crisis grew much worse under Biden. Well, I'm not really sure that. we needed anybody to tell us that. But in fact, that is the case. And it says data included in a new report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office shows that America's debt crisis grew substantially worse under President Joe Biden. Without significant changes, the United States will face unprecedented budget challenges over the next decade, difficulties that could cause a large economic crisis. And we'll talk with Daniel Turner here in the first hour as our featured guest regarding all of this money that the Biden administration was pushing out the door before Trump, too. Well, Trump took office. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And as many of you know, I've got this volunteer gig that I'm doing. as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. It's an all-volunteer group since 1976, has been watching legislation and taking a stand for the taxpayer down at the state legislature. And we'd love to have you join us. It's $25 a year. You can do that by going to coloradotaxpayer.org, and you will receive the email that we send to all of the legislators and the governor regarding positions on a variety of bills each week. It's really an amazing group that I get to work with and really pleased to have Corey Onizorg on the line with us. He's a new board member. He's also our claim to fame. Corey, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks a lot, Kim. Appreciate it. Always great to start the morning with you on air.
SPEAKER 16 :
And we are so jazzed to have you on the board with us at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And when I say claim to fame, you had a stint in the NFL.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's right. It feels like a couple of lifetimes ago, but, you know, the American dream is to is to go with what you're passionate about and reach for the stars. And I was able to go from a Division III college to an NFL experience, and not many people get to do that. So I feel really blessed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I think that is so cool, and it's a great story. But let's move over here to a public policy, and that is what we're doing at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And you're a new board member, and you've just jumped in and really embraced this, and we really appreciate that. But this Bill Track 50 that we use is a pretty cool tool. technology, and it has all of the bills and the continuing resolutions that are being proposed down there. And, Corey, as of this morning, we have a total of 481 bills or resolutions that's been introduced down at the statehouse. That's crazy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I'm a little disappointed, Kim. I thought they hit 500 by our phone call today. I mean, it's not even two-thirds of the way through February. It's crazy. There are busy beavers down there at the Capitol.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they are, and we have taken positions on 116 of the bills so far. And what we do is we look at the bills that are scheduled for the next week for hearing, and we take positions on that. And taking positions on those 116, it's a lot of work on what the team does. But we had our board meeting last week, and there's this really interesting bill, and I'm the one that initially goes through all the bills for the next week and determines which bills, I think, regarding either property rights or taxes or school choice or TABOR, our Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. If it seems like it's affecting those things, I'll then put that out for the team to review and take a position. It could be yes, no, or do not rate. But I did not put this one on there for everybody's review, and that's Scott Bottoms' bill. House Bill 25-1134, insect production for human consumption, because I didn't see government subsidies or anything like that. I didn't see tax dollars. And I thought, well, it should compete in the free market. And so we had a discussion about it, and you've really delved into this. So what's your thoughts on this House Bill 25-1134, basically the bug for human consumption bill?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you're right, Kim. There isn't a whole lot of fiscal impact, and I generally err on the side of free market. When it comes to where we're at today, I think I'd start with the Bible. And Leviticus 1120, all flying insects that walk on all fours are detestable to you. And I think we've gotten a long way away from our Judeo-Christian values, especially here in Colorado and the USA in general. And I think we're returning to that. But I always start there in such crazy times as these. But as far as just the general health implications, so over 7 million people in the United States of America have shellfish allergies. And are susceptible to anaphylactic shock when ingesting this chitin in the bug protein. And if you don't have an EpiPen handy, you could easily die. That's one of the bad downsides of this that we have to acknowledge. So labeling is a must, 100%, starting there. And then You know, as far as chitin is concerned, you know, the parasites in our body that can lead to disease and cancer, I mean, it's a really tough, tough environment to live in a healthy human body for those guys. But when, you know, when you have, I guess, 80% of Colorado here has been infected, injected with a spike protein that has affected people's immune systems. So immune systems are generally down. People are constantly needing boosters from it. And then you add in this chitin concept where these parasites are going to be feeding on this and protecting themselves with it. They're going to proliferate. And then you look at big pharma. I mean, they're preparing for cancer outbreaks, not just here in America, but throughout the world. And You know, something that's not really very well studied. And, you know, when you go on Google, you do a Google search for is bug protein poisonous for humans, you're going to get a very different result if you go to, say, Yandex, right, the Russian search engine, or you go to Brave. I always use Brave browser and search engine. I like it. It's more private. But anyway, you know, looking through all of this, you know, we haven't done a you know, I think to myself, we're running, you know, towards a place that, and look who's behind it. You've got, you know, the U.N., UNESCO, you've got the World Economic Forum behind this. I mean, the people that I certainly detest that want to shut off our energy, you know, and they've said publicly they want us to eat bugs and they sell it as a climate thing. But what are we going to do if we try to do this on an industrial standard, you know, for the environmentalists out there? We all watch Jurassic Park, you know, and the quote, life finds a way. I mean, these bugs are going to Potentially get out and have an impact on our environment. And you think about it, one cow was that maybe hanging weight of 750 pounds. You know, one grasshopper or cricket, I'd say, is... 0.4 grams it's gonna it's 90 000 of these bugs to equal one cow oh my gosh you know on the shelf and how are you going to do quality control on that many little bugs and the parasites and whatever else may be in them so you know i don't think it's unhealthy you know i ride motorcycles and like to chase trains and all that stuff in the countryside and and sure you're going to eat bugs sometimes if you know especially if you're not wearing a helmet but uh And it's not going to kill you. But, you know, to have this as a primary food source I think is a really big mistake for humanity and for Colorado.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, so, and I've not talked to Representative Bottoms about this. Where I was coming down on this, Corey, was I always am looking at far-reaching consequences of government overreach. So what I was concerned about is if we pass a law because we say bugs are not good for us, that we will limit bug production. My concern is that somebody's going to come at it with a narrative of beef is not good for you. it causes blah blah blah and that we would see a movement to try to outlaw beef so that's that was the reason i didn't put it out for our review was because i was looking at it from this freedom issue so what would you say to that you know at the end of the day you know the thought of
SPEAKER 05 :
when I look back on this, I think of two things. I think of Lion King and I think of, you know, Simba going out and having to eat bugs, you know, the king of the jungle and kind of the... I don't know. It's just kind of a weird thought there. That was back in 1994. And then you had Joe Rogan eating bugs and that was a weird thing. And... To me, I get a gag reflex when I even think about bugs and eating them. I have no interest in it whatsoever. It's completely against my faith. But at the same time, if people want to eat the bugs, the estimated population by 2050 is supposedly 9 billion, and they think it's good to have an emergency food supply. I just don't want them to keep killing off bugs. Gaggles of chickens for false PCR tests, swine flu, and same thing with herds of cattle. I mean, this is ridiculous. I mean, they're killing our food supply, and they're manufacturing the demand for this really overall unwanted source of protein. So that's kind of my take on it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Corey, I really appreciate that. And good conversation on this. And that bill, and I don't think we will take a position on it from the cut standpoint. And I doubt that it'll make it through any of these hearings because of just the makeup down there at the Statehouse. But I really everything that you say makes so much sense, Corey. And that's Corey Onizorg with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And we've got some exciting things that we're working on. I know you're working on we're going to try to take over our X account and start to have a bigger presence there. And so I'm excited about that, Corey, because you seem to know what you're doing with that. And I love that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I agree. It's an honor to be on the board. I ran for House District 23. So it's really like being a legislator. And I feel for these people in the Capitol, both Democrats and Republicans. I mean, this is a huge workload, you know, but really there's I mean, there's there's some serious lunacy going on on these bills. And we try to highlight that. And we will be launching X and connecting with you there. But really, this isn't a Democrat or Republican or I mean, everyone's a taxpayer. Everybody should support this. It's an amazing cause. We get the information out. We help inform Colorado, and it takes an informed Colorado to have a quality Colorado and go back in the right direction.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Corey Onozorg, we are so delighted that you've joined the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, the CUP Board, and thank you for sharing all this research on this. This is really good stuff. That's regarding House Bill 251134. We'll talk again very soon.
SPEAKER 05 :
Have a blessed day, Kim. Thanks again.
SPEAKER 16 :
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And a nonprofit that I dearly love is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And they are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial, the official memorials right here in Colorado. And this would be a good week to make a contribution in honor of two great heroes that just passed on. One is Jack Thurman. He passed on. He was a veteran of the Battle of Iwo Jima. He's a Marine veteran. And he just passed on. And he's actually in that gung-ho photo after the American flag was raised on Mount Suribachi. And he's standing right behind Ira Hayes, his friend who got him into the picture. And so we're going to rebroadcast one of the interviews that I did with Jack this Sunday on the America's Veterans Story show. And then C.R. Cusack also just passed on, a veteran of the Vietnam War, and interviewed him as well. And so we'll be broadcasting that very, very soon. So it would be a great week to just make a contribution in honor of those guys. And you can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And pleased to have on the line with me the founder of Power the Future, Daniel Turner. Daniel, I'm so excited to have you on the line. Welcome.
SPEAKER 12 :
Kim, it's always great to be on your program. Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's been a little while. A lot's happened. We're in Trump 2 now. Trump's in office. And things are changing. And I just wanted to get your read on it. And at Power of the Future, you'd written this piece or you guys had published this piece regarding all this money that Biden was pushing out the door. And so I thought, I need to get Daniel Turner on. So first of all, a lot's happening, huh? Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Lots happening, and there's a lot to be excited about. It's going to take a little time. I've told people, you know, you don't steer this ship or you don't right this ship in a matter of weeks. The Biden administration had four years to put in place innumerable energy regulations and punishments at the agency level, at the White House level, and not just undoing them in the actual presidential act of repealing those executive orders or reversing that regulation, But for that to take hold in the industry itself, it's going to take a little while. If you go back to the first President Trump term, he was inaugurated in January 2017. We felt energy kick in in early 18. And it may take just as long. It may take even longer this time. for the effects to be felt. So a little bit of patience is required, but change will come and prices will get lower. The economy will improve. There's a lot to be optimistic about. We just need to bide our time a bit.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and yesterday we had Lauren Fix on with Car Coach Report. She's everything automobiles. We always talk about freedom of mobility. And she mentioned that there was the executive order to reverse Biden's rules or California's rules on cars. pushing us all into EVs, but that something needed to be done in Congress. And then I was going through headlines last night, and the Trump administration actually is trying to work that through with Congress. So he's doing all these executive orders, but I think he's trying to do it within the confines of the Constitution and does want to get these things ultimately through Congress. What do you think?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and that's essential because otherwise we're just playing ping pong. And we were never really meant to rule the government or run the government through executive fiat, right? The founders put... the Congress as the first article of the Constitution for a reason, and they wanted it to be the strongest branch because that is where the people, through their elected leaders, make their voices heard. But what we've found is most Congress people are a little bit cowardly, and I hate accusing anyone of that, but quite frankly, they are. No one wants to put their name on a piece of legislation. to force people to drive an EV, or look at some of the Doge findings that they've brought to light. No one wants to put their name on the legislation to appropriate $50,000 for a transgender puppet show in Mexico. They know that would be bad for their reelection cause. So what they do is they appropriate money for democracy or for fixing the climate, and they give them these nebulous phrases, and then they throw this pot of money at the administration, at the agencies. And then a little bunch of bureaucrats get to decide, how do I spend $50 million for democracy? You know what? Trans puppet shows in Mexico. Or how do I spend $50 billion to fix the climate? You know what? force everyone to drive an EV. So what we need to do is we need to have Congress actually take back its power and say, if you want people to be forced to drive an EV, and there are members of Congress who want that, If you want people to be forced to drive an EV, have the courage to actually write a bill and propose it and let people vote on it and debate it. But no one is that stupid. So they're cowardly, but they're not dumb. They want to get reelected, but they also want to influence your life. They just don't want their fingerprints on it. So, yeah, if Congress can start doing their job again, a lot of these problems would be resolved.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, Daniel, what do you think? I think that the left was not ready for Trump, too. My gosh, day one. What a day he had. And the executive orders before he went to the inaugural balls that evening, it was remarkable. I don't think that – because they're not that organized normally. I don't think that they had any idea what was coming at them. We're now seeing now four weeks later, and there was a headline that I saw last night up here at CSU, that a whole bunch of – there was a protest against Doge and Trump and getting rid of DEI. It's taken them four weeks to get organized on this, but I think they're starting to look kind of dumb. It seems like they want to be out in the streets saying, we do want to support waste, fraud, and abuse. So what do you think about all that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, exactly. You have to pick a side at this point. You can't say we don't want waste in the government. We don't want to waste taxpayer dollars. I'm amazed at the number of Democrat politicians I've seen on TV talking about this huge debt that we have. And you say, well, where have you been for the last four years? When you have someone like Secretary Pete Buttigieg on TV just a couple of months ago saying that, yes, we spent $7.5 billion on charging stations. We only built eight But, you know, this is a good step. No one was outraged at wondering where the rest of the billions of dollars went. So the Democrats have been very comfortable with spending money and wasting it so long as they get to spend it and waste it. And now that you're calling them out on it and exposing to light what some of these grants have been, they're getting a little flustered. So, yeah, they don't know what side to pick. Do we support Democrats? trimming back fat? Do we support not wasting tax dollars? Or do we like these big buckets of slush fund money that we can operate in and give grants to our friends? They're completely caught off guard. It doesn't help also, they don't really have a winning message, and they don't really have a leader. Their leader was Kamala Harris, who was thoroughly defeated. There is no visible head right now of the who kind of look just like lunatics, screaming about waste, screaming about money, screaming about Elon Musk, and they're on a losing side of the argument.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and Daniel Turner, Americans, well, this is the thing with the left, is there's no sense of humor. But somebody sent me a meme, or texted me a meme yesterday, and the cartoon character Spongebob Squarepants, and it had two different frames. And the first one was SpongeBob, you know, skipping along, really happy. And it says Democrats, what Democrats did when federal workers or workers were fired because they would refuse the vaccine. And then the next frame is SpongeBob SquarePants losing his mind and saying, and now this is what the left is concerned about now that Doge is in effect. And I thought, Huh. I hadn't really thought about that, that they didn't really care at all when people lost their jobs because they refused the vaccine. But now, my gosh, they're so concerned about all these federal workers.
SPEAKER 12 :
I thought, yeah, that's a great point. And I have an op ed coming out on that in the Federalist, hopefully today or tomorrow on that exact point. But on energy workers, don't forget the very first day of the Biden administration. He announced he was canceling the Keystone pipeline. And I relay my experiences. I went to the terminus of the pipeline, which was in North Texas. And I sat down with these guys and we put them on video and we brought in and I sent raw footage to Fox News and Dana Perino's show said, can we go live right now and have these guys on camera? Power of the Future made an effort to let their stories be heard because it was tragic that these people overnight, 14,000 of them, lost their job and not just their current job. And this is what your audience knows because they don't live in D.C. So they live in the real world. They didn't just lose their current job, but they lost their future jobs. Right. Everyone. I get a lot of nonsense. People saying, well, but Keystone guys, that was temporary anyway, because it was a construction job. Well, every job is every construction job is temporary. And what you do when you're on a construction job is you're building out your next one. four months, five months, a year, those Keystone guys said they had five years of work lined up. But when Biden canceled the pipeline, every pipeline company said, well, we're not building a pipeline now. I'm not going to start laying pipe, have the Biden administration come in and shut me down. So they lost years of future work and remained unemployed for most of the Biden administration. No one shed a tear for them. They never went on 60 Minutes the way USAID workers were on Sunday night. They never got stories in the paper. They said, well, you know, that's the cause of the climate change. There you go. Necessary casualty. So I don't rejoice that my fellow Americans ever suffer. But I just wonder where the sympathy was for thousands of energy worker, coal workers, et cetera, who Biden put out of a job for his green agenda.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, gosh, that is such a good point. So you said that's going to come out in the Federalist today, Daniel?
SPEAKER 12 :
Today or tomorrow, I hope. Yes. And that's the point I want to make is, you know, if you want me to elicit sympathy for federal bureaucrats who lost their job, then you need to be sympathetic for energy workers. How about members of the military? Eight thousand of them who refused the vaccine and Biden not just fired them, took away their pensions because they didn't want to get a shot. where was the sympathy for any of those guys as well? So, yeah, it's very hard for me to muster up, especially knowing, and this is where maybe I'm being a little bit contradictory here, it's a little bit hard for me also to muster up the sympathy for the federal bureaucrats who implemented a lot of this nefarious agenda on vaccines, on EV mandates, on Green New Deal, et cetera. So, you know, I think maybe some of the bad guys are getting their comeuppance. Sorry.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and thank you for connecting that dot because I hadn't really thought about it that way because I am concerned. Those people at the top that have been pushing this agenda, I'm not really that concerned. I'm glad that they're no longer being paid by taxpayers to push an agenda that's anti-American and that hates Americans. I do feel badly for everyday people, but we get this economy going, And over in the private sector, I think that there will be all kinds of great new opportunity. And I think we need to look at it that way. So, Daniel Turner, I want to continue the discussion. And all this happens because I get to work with amazing people. And he's going to be in next hour as well. And that's Lauren Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, shouldn't have to force people to do it. And a nonprofit that I dearly love is the Center for American Values. And the center is located in Pueblo, right on the beautiful Riverwalk, and focused on several things, honoring our Medal of Honor recipients, some great educational programs for kids, civics education, looking at these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. The center is nonpartisan. It's nonpolitical, just doing great work. More information, be sure and check out their website. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. I'm talking with the founder of Power of the Future, and that is Daniel Turner. And Daniel, you're doing such great work. And you recently published a piece about all of this money that the Biden administration pushed out after the election but before Trump was inaugurated. And we wonder how we have all these deficits. Well, the Biden administration was pushing money out like crazy. So bring us up to speed on that.
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Yeah, it's remarkable that there was this much money laying around that bureaucrats have the ability to shuffle to their different friends or their different allies. What happened at the EPA is probably the most egregious because even if we disagree with a grant, we acknowledge that groups receive government funding and government's allowed to write a grant. And as long as no laws are broken... You know, that's the consequence of having the Biden administration in power. But what the EPA did is a little different. They realized that they had money. There weren't any grants ready to go. So they offshored it in a Citibank account, $20 billion. And they gave access to that account to seven or eight different green banks, green groups, so that they could draw from the money and then they could spend the money as they wanted. And that's just flat out fraudulent. And Lee Zeldin, the new EPA administrator, has talked a lot about this on media and on social media, and there definitely will be investigations. And I sincerely hope that people go to jail, because this is not done for the good of the American people. This is not done for the good of even the climate. This was done specifically to try to create obstacles to the incoming Trump administration and knowing that if we give crazy green groups. And Colorado's got a lot of crazy green groups. If we give them access to $20 billion, then they can do a lot of muckraking and stop the Trump energy agenda before it begins. It's just awful that things like this are allowed to happen and people need to be punished for it.
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Well, and so your blog here at PowerTheFuture.com says EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin finds Biden's gold bars. So is he going to be able to get that back?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, it seems like he is going to get it back. It hadn't been or most of it had not been spent yet. And that money will be recuperated. One of the groups that received two billion dollars, which is and this was just broken the story yesterday, the famous Stacey Abrams, who ran for governor in Georgia and then refused to concede the election for years. claimed that it was stolen. I think she ran for Senate as well, lost that election, claimed it was stolen. Stacey Abrams is a politician who has run for office unsuccessfully many times in Georgia. In 2023, Stacey Abrams and friends created a green group to do, you know, they always make up the phrases, right, Kim? We're promote environmental integrity and respect for diversity, whatever it was. They made up some name. They had $100 in their bank account, ready to go. And right before the Biden administration left, they got a $2 billion grant. And that is billion with the word B, as in boy. This is a group that has never done any environmental work. It has no record in environmental, no experience. But they created it, and they got $2 billion That is absolute fraudulent. If I got a $2 billion grant, even though I have seven years of power in the future trying to fight for jobs in rural America, if I got $2 billion from the government, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren would have me arrested and hauled before Congress and explaining that that is a large sum of money, $2 billion. and yet we're supposed to accept that this is going to fly under the radar. There have to be prosecutions. People have to be punished for abusing the taxpayers to this level of criminality.
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Oh my gosh, that's absolutely terrible. And you mentioned Colorado, and Colorado is out of its mind. And I'm going to be up in Steamboat on Sunday delivering the keynote for the Lincoln Day brunch. And they want to talk about A Climate Conversation, our documentary that is the project of Walt Johnson. And you are one of our great podcast guests in that podcast series, Daniel. Really good stuff on that. But so I've been doing some research on it and here and you have a blog here at Power of the Future, Colorado Kills Coal. And so what they're saying up in Craig, Colorado, they want to close down the coal fired plant there and they're going to replace it with tourism, with people kayaking. And what do you think about all that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and that's going to be really bad when Coloradans want reliable, affordable energy because tourism is great, but tourism doesn't turn your lights on. And the overall 30,000-foot conversation on all of these issues, whether it's fighting the climate or renewable energy or all of this stuff, the 30,000-foot perspective is terrible. How much of your current status in life are you willing to compromise for this agenda? The American people had four years of going green. We have not lowered emissions nationwide. In fact, emissions are slightly up year on year. But electricity prices are up 30%. And nationwide. And as we know, our gas prices are up, too. And so the question for America was in the last election, how much more suffering are you willing to endure for, as Joe Biden called it, the existential threat of climate change? When you see the toll it is taking on your day to day and the American people said not much more. But you look at places like Europe where they're doing this for 25 years and they're saying any day where you ever watch those European leaders talk about climate and they scream about how they haven't met their climate goals. And they haven't. They haven't come close to their climate goals, but they have inflicted tremendous amount of pain on their on their citizens and on their economy. So how much longer does the pain have to last before the good part kicks in? Right. If you can go on a treadmill every day and sweat and sweat and sweat, but eventually you look at yourself in the mirror and you say, hey, not bad. I've gotten a lot of the pain has been worth it. when do we ever get any of the worth it part? And the Greens can never answer that question. And the reason why is because it's never good enough. It never satiates them. Green groups in Colorado are famous for that. The suffering has to continue forever. And as soon as you think you've won, they'll point out, nope, you really haven't. We need to move on to the next target. They're never a satiated group. It's why you can't deal with the climate folks. You have to just defeat them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and that's why shedding light on this, the truth and clarity. For example, what you just talked about, Stacey Abrams, this $20 billion that got pushed out the door and that she received $2 billion. And to push this agenda, which... And it's all about money. I think that's the thing that I really have really learned in all that we've done with the climate conversation is the green and the Green New Deal is the green that is going to PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties going into their pockets. That's what it is all about, Daniel Turner.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, it always is. It always is. And one of the things why Colorado should be optimistic is that you have one of your own in the new energy secretary and Chris Wright and Chris is an amazing pro-energy advocate, but he's pro-energy because he's pro-humanity. If you listen to Chris Wright speak, if you ever had the chance, you can find videos of him on YouTube. It sounds like this conversation. He only loves energy because he loves humanity. He wants humanity to be free and to be prosperous, and he knows that energy and especially reliable, affordable American fossil fuels are the best way. Even your Colorado senator's who are Democrat, both of them, Bennett and Hickenlooper, voted for Chris Wright, probably because they know him. And as a fellow, I'm sure they've known him for years, and even if they disagree with his position on whatever, they know that he's a good guy and he wants what's good for Colorado. Those are the types of middle grounds I'm willing to find. based on personal knowledge and personal relationship. And to have an energy advocate from Colorado will help Colorado because you have tremendous oil and gas and coal reserves. You know how to develop responsibly with deep environmental concern and community concern, but also building jobs, building prosperity, building opportunity for the people of your great state. And there's a lot to be optimistic about.
SPEAKER 16 :
Daniel Turner, I always feel so optimistic after I talk with you. And again, people can find you at PowerTheFuture.com. Very important blogs there. You're just doing great work. And it's always a pleasure to talk with you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Pleasure is mine, Kim. You're my favorite. So thank you so much for having me on.
SPEAKER 16 :
Have a great day. We'll talk soon.
SPEAKER 12 :
God bless.
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Okay. And our quote for the end of the show is from George Washington. And he said this, perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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Talking about freedom. I will fight.
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Happy Thursday, Kim.
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And hail, hail, the gang's all here.
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Yes, ma'am. It's a round table in here.
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In studio, my great friend Karen Levine for Everything Residential Real Estate. Great to have you here. It's great to be here. And Lauren Levy for Everything Mortgages. Great to have you here as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. Good to be back.
SPEAKER 16 :
You guys have been sponsors of the show for, well, we're starting our seventh year. And Karen, you've been with me before then. And Lauren, you came on right about that time. And for both the Kim Monson Show and America's Veterans Stories, I really appreciate you guys.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. I was thinking about that today, how fast time goes.
SPEAKER 16 :
It does. It does. And America's Veterans Stories, it's so important. A couple of things. I had interviewed Michael Keller, a Vietnam veteran, and I saw him this weekend. And he said that he was talking with, I think, a colleague. We'll just put it that way. And he said that she said, Michael, I listened to your interview on America's Veterans Stories, and I learned more about you in that hour than I have in all the years that I've known you. And he said it really touched my heart. And so the fact that both of you sponsor that show, Karen, I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I think it's a great show, and it does shed a lot of history that we need to keep alive. And I have a girlfriend and her husband are heading to Vietnam, and he's a Vietnam vet. He was a medic, which I just learned about all of that yesterday. And there's some nervousness and apprehension but some excitement to go see the beautiful country of Vietnam because, you know, it too has changed over these decades.
SPEAKER 16 :
We probably need to see if we can arrange an interview. I was just thinking about that. Yes, I think so. And, Lauren, again, I thank you for this because we'll be rebroadcasting an interview this Sunday with Jack Thurman, who was at the Battle of Iwo Jima, just a young kid. And he ended up in that gung-ho photo. And his friend Ira Hayes, a co-talker, grabbed him and got him into that photo after they raised the flag at Mount Suribachi. And so we're going to rebroadcast one of the interviews that we did with him. And again, it's because of you guys that we're able to do this. And I thank you for that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it's my pleasure. These guys deserve the respect they get, and it's probably not often they get to talk about it just directly about their past.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and it's changed my life sitting across either the table or on the other end of the phone line with them. So with that, I was thinking, Karen, I think the word of the day is something that typically Lauren is not. Oh, and that is verbose. And that would be to use or contain more words than necessary. I would say that and it's spelled V E R B O S E. And I would say that actually Lauren just kind of gets to the point has a great sense of humor. But verbose is not something I would say about Lauren Levy. What would what do you think?
SPEAKER 19 :
I would agree. He's very direct, very kind, and very knowledgeable, but verbose, no. Not one of those things.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it just kind of happened that that was the word of the day, Lorne.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was perfect. Tomorrow I'll be chit-chatty.
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I don't have chitchat on there. Okay. President's Day was on Monday, honoring the birthdays of both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, who were both born in February. Ronald Reagan was also born in February.
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And Karen Levine was born in February.
SPEAKER 16 :
And Karen Levine was born in February, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
That might be why they made the holiday.
SPEAKER 16 :
February 18th is Karen Levine's birthday. And so I've been doing George Washington quotes for most of the week. And he was born February 22nd, 1732. He died February 11th, 1731. And he had returned. I think this is my understanding. He had returned back to Mount Vernon, which he loved. And he had gone out to take a look at the property on horseback, got into a storm, and ended up getting probably pneumonia. And then he gets back, and then the doctors back then, one of the things they did was they would do bloodletting. And so they actually had that treatment, and he died. And so that's why. So February 11, 1731. hold on here no he's born february 22nd 1732 and died december 14 1799 they had some different dates here but he was our founding father first president united states commander of the continental army and presided over the constitutional convention i think you both will love this and this is from jenny she submitted this freedom and property rights are inseparable you can't have one without the other karen Right? Property rights, homeownership. Creates freedom. Creates freedom. And both of you help people do that. Our bill of the day, and I had Corey Onizor gone in the first hour to talk about this. We did not take a position on this for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. This is Scott Bottoms' bill, House Bill 25-1134, to prevent additional insect production for human consumption. And I've been on the freedom side. I thought, okay, you want to let that compete in the free market? Because I was concerned if people say that bugs are bad for you, that then they might say stuff I like, like beef is bad for you. And so I was concerned about government involved in that. But Corey had some really good points about for sure we've got to have labeling on this. And putting parasites into our body, that doesn't seem like a good idea. But anyway, that's a bill down at the state house. I don't think it's going to go anywhere. But that is a bill down at the state house. So, yeah, you both are looking like.
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Yeah. No other stuff.
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I'm like, why? Why? But I also have a question about I don't know if it's a bill yet, but I heard it on Monday after it took me six and a half hours to get from Leadville back to the front range because of weather and vehicles that did not put on their chains. And that this particular representative wants to put a bill forth to allow the private sector to provide chains and the installation of chains along I-70. And I thought to myself, why do we need a bill? Can you not just do that if there's a market for that service and product? Good point. I don't have an answer, but.
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Good point. Okay. Okay. So, okay. Well, I'll let you know. And let's see, I had quoted this today, and this was how many bills and resolutions have been introduced down at the Statehouse. Lorne, were you listening in the first hour? Did you hear that number that I gave?
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I did not.
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Okay.
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Again. I'm going to make one up.
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Mr. Verbose. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Make one up. How many bills?
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I know it's many, many, many, many. Yes. So if I had to guess, I don't want to be crazy, but there are ones about bugs. So 3,000.
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That's verbose.
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481.
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Which is a lot. We don't need another law.
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Last year was 700 and some by the time they got done.
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So we're on track to do more.
SPEAKER 10 :
We don't need any more.
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That is for sure. And so headlines, let's see. I thought this was super interesting. I got to get to this. And Mary, thank you for getting this over to me. There's this piece of legislation that Hickenlooper has his name on. And this is such an interesting thing. Now I got to get to, I have too many things open here. And that is regarding ICE and people... Darn it, I had it here. Well, okay. Oh, I know where it is. And that is to try to protect people that are here illegally if they're going to a church or... Here, I got it. going to a church or school or all these different places that they want to protect them from ice, if you will. So on page 17, it says that it would protect them at any federal, state, or local courthouse, including the office of an individual's legal counsel or representative and a probation office. Then it says could not... Arrest them at any congressional district office, any social security office, any public assistant offices, including locations where individuals may apply for or receive unemployment compensation or report violations of labor or employment laws. The indoor or outdoor premises of Department of Motor Vehicles. But get this one. Polling place, including any building or infrastructure where voting takes place during an election. I thought illegals aren't supposed to be able to vote. And this is at Congress right now.
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Great. And that would be an individual that led some of the things here in Colorado.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I thought that was super interesting. Thank you for Mary for getting that over here on my desk as well. And then there's a big, you're a sports guy. Are you excited about this hockey game tonight?
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Yes.
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You are?
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Yep.
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Mr. Verbose.
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I am. It's going to be fun.
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Okay.
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If you watched the last one, did you watch the one the other night?
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I didn't, but somebody was telling me about it. And apparently within the first nine seconds, there were three fights.
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Yeah, it was premeditated, which was kind of cool. Because I watch a lot of this stuff. So fill me in. So this is USA versus Canada, right? So in hockey, Canada's a powerhouse, the powerhouse usually. And the U.S. has always been up and coming. But these two brothers that played for the U.S. decided that the game was in Montreal. So they already were underdogs. So to inspire their team, they just said... We're coming out right away, and as soon as they drop the puck, we're fighting. So that's what they did. They fought these two other guys, and they won. They inspired. The team won. The team won the game. So now Canada knows that it was pre-planned. It's come out, and so now the game's in Boston tonight. Uh-oh. And this one's for the championship, and it's a revenge game for Canada. So it's going to be interesting to see how they handle it, if it's a lot of fights or not, because hockey's gotten rid of fighting pretty much over the last number of years because they figure it wasn't family-friendly. Their audience is a boom. There's no doubt about that. But fighting hasn't been around much.
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So now my understanding is that instead of the All-Star Game, that they're doing this thing, right?
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I can't confirm that because I don't know about the All-Star Game. But if that is the plan, I think it's brilliant because – The All-Star game, even the NBA one this past week, the basketball has been – I don't know anybody that watched it.
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It's kind of lame, huh?
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I don't know anybody that watched it. Yeah. Even my dad is a huge NBA guy. I thought it was terrible. That's just one person's opinion. So these All-Star games have become kind of where they don't try and they don't want to hurt anybody. They don't want to get injured. So this has been awesome. Yeah. I think a lot of people weren't sure what this would do, if people would be interested in it. But from what I'm hearing, the tickets in Boston, even NHL players can't get them. They're just so expensive. They can buy them, but they can't get in. So it's really caught on. It's huge.
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Well, and apparently I think the goalie for Canada has had this great record, like he'd not been defeated. So this was his first defeat. So Canada's going to want to play.
SPEAKER 10 :
They're looking for revenge tonight. And they have a lot of good players. It's a who's who. So it's going to be awesome, I think. So, yeah.
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Okay, okay.
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There's verbose on sports. I can do that all day.
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You can do that all day.
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You only got to remember two numbers.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. And in fact, Susan Harris will be our featured guest on one of the shows next week. So I am excited about that. And as you all know, one of the nonprofits I dearly love is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And I mentioned that we'll be rebroadcasting an interview with Iwo Jima. battle of Iwo Jima veteran Jack Thurman who just passed on and Richard thank you yesterday was the 80th anniversary of Iwo Jima and he Richard said President Trump had a proclamation about it and it was a battle that they the guys were told it wasn't going to be that long because they'd been What had happened over in the Pacific is we were doing kind of island hopping, and the Japanese were on a whole bunch of different islands, and we were needing to capture these different islands so that we could start to build air bases so ultimately our bombers could get to Japan to bomb Japan. And so Iwo Jima was the real critical one. And the Japanese... General Commander, had actually studied in the United States. So he knew our military strategy. And he guessed that Iwo Jima was going to be one of the islands that we were going to go after. And so the Japanese had built tunnels. It's basically just volcanic rock. But they built tunnels, and they were prepared. So we had shelled the island for, I think, several days. And so they're thinking that it's softened up. Well, our guys go onto the beach. There's no cover. And it not softened it up much at all. And so it was a very difficult battle went on for quite some time. And it is amazing what these what these guys did. And so Jack Thurman, rest in peace. We're excited to be. rebroadcasting that interview yesterday. The 19th was the eighth anniversary of the initial attack in the Battle of Iwo Jima. So really grateful for all of that. So thank you, Richard, for telling us that. And then regarding the Marines, the USMC Memorial Foundation is a nonprofit I dearly love. And on March 15th, USMC Memorial Foundation President Paula Sarles will climb 426 steps at Red Rocks to honor the Marine Corps. Iwo Jima veterans turning 100 and her birthday. And she'll climb 250 steps for the Marine Corps birthday and 100 for the Iwo Jima veterans and 76 for her own birthday, finishing with a celebration at the top. Last year, she jumped out of an airplane for her birthday. What do you think about that, Karen?
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Well, I've done those stairs at Red Rocks several times, and here's to her. It's a lot. I did the 9-11 climb, and I think you had to do it 10 circles. Anyway, it's the number of stairs that the firemen had to do on 9-11. Oh, wow. And I don't think my knees could do that now.
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but hail to Paula yeah and so more information all the details will be at the website usmcmemorialfoundation.org and um yeah good for her Lauren I think that's great it's amazing yeah I will uh I wish her all the best and I will be watching from afar won't be doing those 276 steps
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No, or 400 or whatever, just 470.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, 426. Yeah, that's worse. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Yeah, I don't want a short change.
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276, maybe.
SPEAKER 16 :
Maybe. Maybe.
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Okay. Not the 400.
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So, Lorne Levy, let's talk about the economy. We haven't really talked a lot about Doge since you – I think that that's really occurred since the last time you guys were here.
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it's pretty remarkable i find it crazy these protests that are starting that basically like they're to me they're saying we want waste fraud and abuse we're standing for that what do you think i saw a video yesterday and i again i'm careful on social media because i don't know what's ai and what's real but it was a video of a press conference with al gore back way back with clinton and they were talking about creating a department It wasn't called Doge, but it was called something government restructuring something. And as he was talking, he was basically saying the same thing. He's like, we've got to eliminate waste, eliminate, you know, things like this for bloat. And it was so this is not a new idea. It's just actually doing it.
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That's the new idea.
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Yeah. And so, you know, I'm all for it. I also read something. I've been talking about this forever. I think if you want to, we don't need to spur the economy. The economy is doing great. But I think about all the fraud that's in like Medicare and these places. And it's like you could hire a bunch of people and pay them a minimum salary and then pay them commission on the money they reclaim from the fraud they find, you know. And clean up Medicare probably. That would do a lot too.
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Did you see the headline? I talked about it on Monday. Epic Times that Doge, Elon Musk, that they found on the Social Security rolls over 12 million people that are over 100. They're eligible for over 120 years of age. There's one guy or one person. That's in that over 240 years old. And I was talking with someone and said, I said, he would have been in the Revolutionary War. And my friend said, well, we should be taking care of that veteran.
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Right. You've got to think there's a lot of ways. I don't have any answers. I haven't looked into this stuff. But even just technology-wise to cross-reference when these people pass away that they – You know what I mean? There's got to be a way that they fall off the list somehow that it covers across. You know, even when they talk about the airline, what are they talking about, the air traffic controllers and how outdated the system is, and they've been talking about fixing that for 40 years and have just never done it. With all the technology we have, we think you could streamline some of these things and save money that way.
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One would think so. What do you think about this, Karen? Doge has all occurred since the last time you were on the show.
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Well, I do find it interesting that people are protesting saving their own tax dollars, that they would rather spend that. I mean, they don't get to spend it, that they give it to the government to spend unwisely. So I'm kind of confused about the temperament or the The thinking of the people.
SPEAKER 16 :
But I wonder if they've been on these protesters because it takes – so I did take one for the team. I did go down to the statehouse and testify on a bill. But if you did that every day, the day shot. And I was thinking of all the work that I had to do. So how is it that they have this time – and money to be able to go and protest. Unless, ah, maybe they've been paid, and maybe the money they're being paid with is the money that we've been, has been being taken from us. And I think that's what Elon Musk is finding.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes. Well, and I know I have family that lives in a small community, a very conservative community, and their town square had protesters. And My family member was a bit curious about where they came from. And I said, well, maybe the university. And she said, oh, no, they were not of that age. So it wasn't community members, to her knowledge. So I think you are correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
They're organizing that. They are. And so, Lorne, I have in my hand one of our listeners. Who gave this to me? I think this was Mary. Executive Order 13576, Delivering an Efficient, Effective, and Accountable Government. So this is an executive order, and... I'll put you on the spot again. You want to guess who signed this and what year this was?
SPEAKER 10 :
What's the topic?
SPEAKER 16 :
Delivering Efficient, Effective, and Accountable Government.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I'm going to say... It's probably going to be way older than I thought. No. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So... I'll give you a hint. I was going to say Obama.
SPEAKER 10 :
I was going to say Clinton, but then when you said not as old, I said Obama.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. So Obama, June 13th, 2011. And apparently... He put in place everything he put there. He says this is what was put in place that that Trump and Musk are using to get Doge going. And it was put in by an executive order by Obama. And that's one, three, five, seven, six. So I thought that was pretty interesting.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've always maintained that it's hard to take back what you give people once you give it to them. That's what we're seeing. I don't think anybody doesn't think there's bloat in the government. But once you give them all the jobs, then now you've got to take them back. And that's tough.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I've been concerned about that. And Daniel Turner in hour number one had an excellent point. And somebody sent a meme over to me regarding SpongeBob SquarePants. The first frame is, you know, skipping along, really happy. And that is the left's reaction when government workers walk. lost their jobs because they wouldn't take the vaccine the second frame is going crazy and now it's the left's reaction to government workers losing their jobs because of waste fraud and abuse and daniel turner said he's got a piece that's coming out in the federalist either today or tomorrow and he really focuses on the people that feed and fuel us and and he said no nobody on the left cried at all on day one when Joe Biden canceled the Keystone Pipeline and 14,000 people lost their jobs. Karen, I thought that was a really interesting point.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and that was providing energy to us nationwide, right? Yeah, reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy. Right, and it was the private sector. And so it's what we had a conversation over the weekend, had some friends up to our cabin and we were talking and she said she comes from a background of corporate America and she said layoffs are part of running an efficient, profitable business. As things change in the business marketplace, we as corporate employees know that there's going to be trimming back when maybe our product isn't meeting a need and we need to restructure. But also there are hires when we are growing and building. That should be understood in the government as well. And she said government employees have had it so comfortably in many cases that they don't understand the give and take of an economy. And this is just part of the beauty of what America offers us.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is just an anecdotal piece because I always watch and we talk about the unintended consequences of a lot of the things that these guys try to do. I took my buddy. We were out looking for a commercial space for my other business that I do. And he's like, just run me through McDonald's real quick. The guy got two cheeseburgers and a Diet Coke, and it was $9.00. I remember when that used to be like $3. And I couldn't believe how many he paid. I'm like, you just paid $9 for that? That's because the workers are making $20 an hour. And now I'm like, who's going to go to McDonald's? And those are supposed to be starter jobs for usually teenagers and young adults and how they get rolling, right? And learn how to be somewhere on time. Yeah. Those jobs are going to go to computers.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because of forced minimum wage.
SPEAKER 10 :
But they don't see that coming. They just think McDonald's is going to pay all their workers all this money when in reality they're going to install computers.
SPEAKER 16 :
I saw a headline last night. 24 Dairy Queens in Texas, the franchise owner, is just going to close them. And I'm a Dairy Queen connoisseur. I love Dairy Queen. And it's like, ah! One of my favorite Dairy Queen's closed here.
SPEAKER 10 :
There's one on Arapahoe Road that's closed. Yeah, that one. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
I know.
SPEAKER 10 :
I drove by it yesterday. And then I read all the time about restaurants closing in Denver. And, you know, they reference food, you know, input costs, but they always come back to labor costs.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. And here in Colorado, this legislature has made labor more and more expensive. for businesses and Colorado used to be in the top 10 in economic growth and the CU lead school of business said that we are now 41st in the nation and it's because of what is happening not only down at the state capitol but in counties and municipalities as well. We're going to continue this discussion with my great sponsors and friends, Lauren Levy and Karen Levine. And all this happens because of all of our sponsors. And for a great protein source in your diet, Lavaca Meat Company can provide that steakhouse experience at home.
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SPEAKER 16 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado. And they do these great On Values presentations. The most recent one was with one of the co-founders, Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient, and it was about his time in Greenland, and the subject was the real Cold War. And you can find that presentation at their website, AmericanValueCenter.org, but they've got two great ones that will be coming up in March and April as well, so stay tuned. And again, that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. Lauren Levy, just give us an update regarding mortgages. We're just sitting here. Anything you think is going to happen with that?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think we're in a period now where rates are going to – I don't know. It's going to take something to move them one direction or the other versus just everyday stuff. I think the economy is doing well. We haven't seen any mass layoffs. Unemployment number is holding strong. And so the Fed is hinting at the fact that they're on hold for quite some time. Their biggest fear is to have to raise rates if inflation peaks back up. And we've seen gas go up here in the last just week, jump again. So they worry about that stuff. They don't want prices to get back to where they were. So I think they're going to hold, which means rates are probably going to hold for a while. Unless we don't want something news driven to happen, which that's usually bad news for whoever that happens to, you know, like a 9-11 type thing. So we don't want it to happen that way. So hopefully, well, I think people are getting used to where they are. And there's other opportunities like you and I always talk about, like banks are getting creative even more with like second mortgages and where people don't have to give up their really good rate on their firsts. if they need to access their home equity because home values are holding for the most part. I mean, there's been a few maybe decreases here and there. But I think one of the biggest problems we're having now we've talked about is homeowners insurance, and I think that's becoming a real thing that I'm seeing because it's gone up so much. It used to be just a component of getting a loan, and it was nothing. Now it's a real number. And I was just listening to someone the other day talking about the fact that there's certain markets where, where they think in the next 10, 15 years, it's going to be almost impossible to get a mortgage in those markets because the insurance companies won't insure. Kind of like what happened in the Palisade buyer in California. Like insurance companies won't be willing to come in. And if you can't get insurance, you have to either pay cash for the house and figure it out or not get a mortgage.
SPEAKER 16 :
So that'll push people into renting then. Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't know what it'll do. It'll either make it so unaffordable, like only the rich can really live there, right, because they can self-insure, or it'll make it for the regular person that just won't be able to live there in that area. It's mostly coastal stuff, you know, really rural with fires and hurricane zones, things like that, where insurance companies are just kind of tired of getting wiped out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Yeah. So I would recommend that people give a call to Roger, State Farm Insurance, because I know that – well, this was several months ago. But bundling insurance together, one of my friends was able to save, I think, $1,000. I know that – and Roger and I have talked about it. It is challenging. And, of course, you don't want – as you say, you don't want insurance companies to be wiped out with – You know, all the things that are happening. And some of this is public policy as well. Not being good stewards of our forests. When I drove up to Grand Lake for Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week, looked at the whole mountainside. It was all dead beetle kill and not doing anything to get coal back at all. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, Warren, to figure out that that could be a really bad forest fire.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and I think a lot of people used to think, well, I live in Littleton, Colorado. This doesn't affect me, but these insurance companies pass these increases off across the country. And then, God forbid, we see what happened in like Broomfield a few years ago.
SPEAKER 09 :
Superior.
SPEAKER 10 :
Superior, yeah, that area. Those people probably didn't think it would affect them either until some underground flare happened. But insurance is – you double whammy that with the property tax increases that we had, and now you have a component of a mortgage that's a lot of money. It's not just a rate.
SPEAKER 16 :
And so are you seeing this – there's more inventory now here in Colorado, right, Karen, regarding houses? Yeah, there is more choice. Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
And it's not a saturated market as far as choice. It is – moving towards a more balanced market. We had been in a seller's market for quite some time, eight to 10 years. And now buyers have more choice, a little more opportunity for negotiating. But as Lauren was talking, insurance is a challenge because the component to the payment is becomes larger and then taxes have gone up because of values going up so that component is larger and then lauren we add the cost of solar and you add that component to the overall payment and that causes affordability again to be more and more challenging what do you mean the cost of solar i Well, we have promoted solar in our marketplace. There has been public policy that has given incentives for putting solar on your home. When you go to sell your home, there is typically a loan or a lease of which the new buyer will need to assume. Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER 10 :
Very few people that have solar pay for it outright. They usually treat it like a car. It has a loan against it, and it goes as a lien on the home, and it has a monthly payment. So it's important for us doing loans and for Karen to tell us, by the way, this home has solar, so it's not a surprise. We have to find out if it's paid in full, which I actually had one of those the other day. which was beautiful. It happened to be in Texas. But the person had been there long enough that their payments had ended. Because or else you might find out, oh, you just qualified for this loan. Oh, but we have $180 a month solar payment. Oops. And there's no getting around that. They have to assume it.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, Karen, I guess I had always thought, because they talk about how solar would reduce your energy costs, but you do have to factor in the fact that you've got to pay for it. You've got to pay for it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
And what's interesting is some of this new business models of the solar companies are not allowing you to pay for it, like pay for it in full. How so? They are making you lease it or pay for it over time. So that encumbrance is on the property for 20 years. So then the burden falls on the buyer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Gosh, this goes back to if you can't control your property. If somebody else is controlling your property, you don't really own your property, Lorne.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, no, and solar is a real thing, especially when it's a surprise. If people don't have experience like Karen, that's happened to me before where they just didn't find out they had solar until the appraisal was done. The appraiser goes out there and is like, okay, and they make a note of the solar panels, and then all of a sudden lenders understand that there's probably a loan. And then they start asking questions like, where's the documentation? Show us these are paid off. And then you show them there's a lease and people can maybe not qualify and blow up the whole deal.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, gee. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, definitely. If you're considering new construction, reach out to me to make sure you have representation at the table.
SPEAKER 16 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And a nonprofit that I dearly love is the Center for American Values in Pueblo. They are just doing amazing work on a variety of things, honoring our Medal of Honor recipients, as well as great On Values presentations. There will be a really interesting one in March with author Walt Laramore about his father. a World War II veteran who saved the famous French horses from the Nazis. It's a really interesting story. And we interviewed him for America's Veterans Stories. And then also great educational programs. Find out what they do by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. In studio with me, great sponsors. That's Karen Levine for Everything Residential Real Estate. Great to have you here. It's been a great hour. 303-877-7516 is your number. And Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. Great to have you. Great to be here. 303-808881 is how you reach Lorne. And so pleased to have on the line with me Representative Dan Woog. He is a Colorado representative representing House District 19. Representative Woog, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim. It's really great to be here. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, good to have you. And House District 19, what area does that encompass, Representative Woog?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, that is a sliver of the eastern part of Longmont, some unincorporated Boulder County there. And then it includes all of Firestone, Frederick, Dakota, and Erie. So it is a district that has, you know, generally conservative Weld County and then some Boulder County as well. So it's a very split district.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. And really pleased to have you down at the Statehouse. This is a monumental job that you guys are doing because the Democrats have a majority in both houses and, of course, the governorship as well. And with CUT, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, we're watching this legislation. And with bills and resolutions, there's been 481 pieces of legislation that's been passed.
SPEAKER 11 :
introduced so far we don't need another law but this is this is monumental it's a bill mill down there representative wug it is and uh we i personally was here and i know there were others here just as long from 9 a.m to 9 p.m last night and the nights get shorter the further we go and you're right i think over 600 almost 700 bills actually got passed last year which As I know the listeners know that generally the more bills passing, the less freedoms we have. So it's just amazing how many laws we have to go through. And, of course, we're limited on time on how many we can even read to the full extent. We have aides that are helping us and interns some of us have. But it is nearly impossible to keep up on all these bills that we have to vote on for the people.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right, and it's irresponsible—I want to make sure—it's irresponsible to put into law something that our representatives have not had the time to read, ruminate on it, think about the consequences of that. This is totally irresponsible of what's happening down here at this legislature that's being controlled by these radical extremists. But— I love the creativity, particularly of a bill that you just had introduced. Getting rid of something, that's what we need to be doing, and that's House Bill 25-1144, repeal retail delivery fees. Thank you, Representative Wu, for bringing this forward. But when people talk about affordable Colorado, when we have Democrats talk about affordable Colorado, they're just kidding, aren't they?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they are not showing us that they really, truly want to lower the cost of living for Coloradans. And it's very frustrating for all of us to sit through committee meetings and sit through floor work and hear them say how they want to lower the cost of living. But yet the things they are doing are only increasing it. So, yeah, the retail bank fee, it was just something I felt, you know, let's tackle this one thing at a time. You know, it really disproportionately affects so many rural Coloradans, senior citizens, those who are immobile. I mean, they really rely on so many deliveries. And, of course, you know, delivery fees come in the form of Uber, Uber Eats, Lyft, Rideshare, groceries, pizzas, pharmaceuticals, so all kinds of things that people are paying this cost. And a lot of people don't even realize that these fees just keep getting tacked onto multiple industries, really.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and like, for example, Amazon deliveries, are those also have a delivery fee?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, Amazon deliveries do. And it's a 29 cent delivery fee. And these are, you know, the Democrats argue that we need these fees because they're going towards the highway users tax fund, bridges and tunnels. And that's very important. But Unfortunately, even a third of it goes to clean transit projects. And frankly, what I ask is, are we really seeing improvements in our roads? I mean, these fees are apparently being directed towards our highways and roads, but they don't seem any better. And also, Kim, there are so many funding sources that pay for these things. So as we know, Democrats really don't want to give up any new fees, and we're paying the price for it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they're supposed to be going to those roads. Karen Levine, I think there's some potholes that I drive across that I could lose a car in.
SPEAKER 19 :
That is true. For someone who's on the road a lot, I would agree with that. And I've noticed that we don't seem to stripe our roads anymore, which I don't know that that's very safe.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's pretty important. How about you, Lauren Levy? When I get on to I-25, the entry road, it is pretty darn rough.
SPEAKER 10 :
I know the one you're talking about.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I think you do.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just did it today. I find that when they're repairing roads, all they're doing is one of those trucks that just drives around with asphalt in the back and just fills the holes and tamps them down. And that probably lasts until the next time it snows instead of replacing. There's so many roads that they've just filled in all these holes and it just made it bumpier.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
So they say they're going to do something, Representative Woog, but we driving around realize that they're not doing that. And again, I saw that when I was on city council 2012 to 2016, that they were shaving money out of money that like the gas tax that was supposed to go to roads. Part of that was going to transit and some of these pet projects, Representative Woog.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And like I said, I don't think the focus should be with a third of the fees going to clean transit projects. There's a greater need than that. And like everyone just mentioned, we're literally feeling it. We're driving on the roads, and it's starting to actually affect people's pocketbooks. And yeah, they're just across the board, nickeling and diming people to death. But yet, yeah, that's the Democrats' answer. We need these funds to provide repairs for our roads and bridges and tunnels and all that, but we're just not seeing it. So the proof's not in the pudding, and frankly, I told them we need to tighten our belts up. We're in a budget deficit this year. We have to tighten things up, and sometimes you've got to suffer a little, but Clearly, they're not going to listen, and they're just moving forward, saying they want to lower the cost of living, but not really. The proof's not in the pudding. They're not putting that in the bills that are actually helping Colorado.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. So they killed your bill, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
They killed my bill. It was a party-line vote.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. As you were saying this about clean transit, I'm thinking, actually, the transit that I see, the trains are dirty and dangerous. So there's nothing clean about that transit right now, Representative Woog?
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, you're absolutely right. We had RTD come give a presentation in some other departments and learn that well over 50% of users on the train, they are not comfortable using it right now. So unclean, unsafe, unused, really. I mean, very, very few people use those. So it's just, it's a failed system. But again, they refuse to look at the data and the numbers and recoup and admit that, hey, maybe we were wrong about this and maybe these funds shouldn't be going this direction.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I was talking with someone yesterday, said you're going to be on the show regarding this retail delivery fee. And I would say my friend was not very political in his comment was. Well, how much money have they taken in on that? It's got to be millions of dollars, and where has the money gone? That's the real key question. So, Representative Woog, thank you so much for taking the time to let us know about this, and thank you for having such a great, creative bill. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, all of you. It was great to be on the show, and have a blessed day.
SPEAKER 16 :
And you as well. So Karen, we're just about to the end of the show here. So always learn a lot about property rights and all the work that you're doing to help people get into that home so that they can create wealth for themselves and their families. And thank you for all that you do.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, thank you. And I was going to ask Representative Woog that when the bills that the Colorado Association of Realtors is working on with regards to the unintended consequences of the construction defect legislation from 15 years ago, that he would help us move forward. to make it easier for the construction of condominium units, which would create more opportunity for homeownership in the Front Range and in the state.
SPEAKER 16 :
So you have to reach out to them. Yeah. Okay, sounds great. Great to have you, as always. 303-877-7516. And Lauren Levy, your verbose final thought.
SPEAKER 10 :
My final thought with the representative is it must be tough for those guys. I feel like they're banging their head against the wall all day long just knowing that they don't have the votes most of the time.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know.
SPEAKER 10 :
But you've still got to try to do it and push forward. And then you know that the people over there are, what do they call it, passively listening. Yeah, if they are. Looking at you like they're listening, but they're not listening. Then they just lose on party lines.
SPEAKER 16 :
I know. And nine to nine, it's exhausting to be doing that. So I really do appreciate all that they're doing. And also because of you guys, we get to bring these voices on. This is so important that people hear what's going on because otherwise people wouldn't know. Thank you, Lauren Levy, 303-880-8881. Karen Levine, 303-877-7516. Our quote for the end of the show is from George Washington, and he said this, Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Actually, Joey Hudson in for Mike Gallagher. We have a very special show for you today as I'm in studio and Mike is at the White House. He'll be reporting in with us from time to time throughout the show today. We have a lot to cover today, as always. The much anticipated Sean Hannity interview with President Donald Trump and Elon Musk was last night. We have some of those highlights for you. And remember all those pardons that Joe Biden handed out as he was leaving the White House? Well, one of those was a cop killer. He murdered in cold blood, shot them in the head, two FBI agents with an AR-15. Even Bill Clinton and Barack Obama refused to pardon him. Joe Biden, he set him free, and he went home this week to a hero's welcome. Actually had a party, a welcome home party at a casino near the area where he slaughtered these two FBI agents. We have that for you as well. It was an interesting interview last night with Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Sean Hannity, You know, we've been hearing about this, knew it was going to be aired last night. And, you know, I think one of the takeaways for me was these are just two guys who really like one another. They're friends. And they love our country. They love America. And they want to do things to help us. In the opening moments of the interview, Hannity started on sort of a light note, joking with Trump and with Musk about the fact that he had just settled a major lawsuit. And you may recall, Trump had sued what was Twitter, now X, after Elon Musk purchased it. He had sued them for defamation and other charges because they had canceled him. They had taken him off of the platform, silenced him during the election. In cut number one, Hannity asked Elon Musk, well, how do you feel about the idea that your company just paid the guy sitting beside you $10 million?
SPEAKER 16 :
I've got to start with this. So he's working for free with Doge. He's he's kind of put a lot of his life on hold. And you sued Twitter a number of years ago. You just made him pay you ten million dollars. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. I sued from long before he had it. Yeah. And I mean, they really did a number on me, you know, and I sued and they had to pay. They pay ten million dollar settlement.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're OK with that? I mean, I left it up to the lawyers and, you know, the team running Twitter. So I said, you guys do what you think is the right. It makes sense. I think it's fine.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think it's a very low. I was looking to get much more money than that. So you gave him a discount on the loss. Oh, he got a big discount. I don't think he even knows about it.
SPEAKER 02 :
I was looking for more money. I mean, $10 million, that's a nice size check. But it would have to be somewhat unusual. Now, look, $10 million to Elon Musk, that's pocket change. You and I could live very comfortable on $10 million for the rest of our lives. But to these two guys, that's not a whole lot of money. But it would have to be a little unusual, wouldn't it, to have this guy who's volunteering his time, literally upended his life to help make your administration successful. And now your company has to write him a check for $10 million. But one point, and this is what I'm saying, this whole interview, when you watched it last night and you just really see that these two guys like one another. And Elon Musk has a great respect for Donald Trump and is very evident. At one point, Musk stopped Hannity in cut number three, and he made it very clear. He said, I love the president.
SPEAKER 16 :
If you really didn't believe the media, he'd become one of your best friends. He's working for free for you. Well, I love the president. I just want to be clear about that. You don't care about that? I know. I love the president. You love the president.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think President Trump is a good man. And he's, you know... That's the way he said that, you know? There's something nice about it. There really is. You know, because, I mean... The president has been so unfairly attacked in the media. It's really outrageous. And at this point, I spent a lot of time with the president. And not once have I seen him do something that was mean or cruel or wrong. Not once.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, that was just a nice moment between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Look, Musk... doesn't need to be doing this. And with all of the people who are just literally attacking him, going after him, saying that he has no place, he's not an official representative of our government, he's not an employee of the government, he doesn't have to be. The president can appoint anyone he wants within the executive branch to do anything he wants them to do. And that's what he has Elon Musk doing there. That's his job. But it's also what we saw last night just painted the picture of two guys, two friends, again, who love our country and see things that need to be done, see things that will change our country to the better. Hannity also brought up the elephant in the room last night, so to speak, asking the two of them if they understand what the mainstream media is trying to do as far as drive a wedge between the two of them, try to do something that would damage their friendship. And cut number two, Hannity asked them, are you aware of what's happening and what they're trying to do? They're trying to get the two of you to start arguing between one another.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're both aware, you have to be keenly aware that the media and the punditry class, not that, you know, I think you've proven they have no power anymore because they threw everything they had at you and they didn't win. And that was, you know, the New York Times, Washington Post, three networks, every late night comedy show, two cable channels. They just threw everything, lawfare, weaponization. Sure. And now I see they want you two to start, they want a divorce. They want you two to start hating each other. And they try, oh, President Elon Musk, for example. You do know that they're doing that to you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, I see it all the time. They tried it, then they stopped. They have many different things of hatred. Actually, Elon called me. He said, you know, they're trying to drive us apart. I said, absolutely. They said, we have breaking news. Donald Trump has ceded control of the presidency to Elon Musk. President Musk will be attending a cabinet meeting tonight at 8 o'clock. And I say, it's just so obvious. They're so bad at it. I used to think they were good at it. They're actually bad at it. Because if they were good at it, I'd never be president. Because I think nobody in history has ever gotten more bad publicity than me. I could do the greatest things. I get 98% bad publicity. I could do, outside of you and a few of your very good friends, it's like the craziest thing. But you know what I have learned, Elon? The people are smart. They get it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, they do.
SPEAKER 08 :
They get it. They really see what's happening.
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The American people do get it. We do understand that this is what the mainstream media is trying to do. They can't beat Trump. They know that we're going to have four good years of Trump. Now he's brought Elon Musk, this whiz kid. I guess he's not a kid anymore. This very smart man to help our country. And no, we're not going to let the mainstream media tell us what we think about Elon Musk. 800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453. I'm Joey Hudson. I'm in studio today. Mike Gallagher is at the White House today. We'll be checking in with him in just a moment.
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The Mike Gallagher Show. The gravy train for a lot of these folks, it's been on biscuit wheels, and it's about to run off the dead gum tracks, and it's about time. Could you imagine standing up here and defending waste, fraud, and abuse? But I think that's what we're seeing. When people squeal and don't ask questions, I think it shows the American public what the heck's going on.
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In the relieffactor.com studios, here's Mike Gallagher.
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Joey Hudson in for Mike today as he is at the White House, and we hope to be checking in with him soon to get a report. He'll be doing some interviews throughout the morning that some he'll share with you tomorrow, and hopefully we'll be able to check in with Mike here in just a few minutes. You know that clip that we just shared with you there where – A lot of the Democrats, Chuck Schumer leading the effort, are pushing back and trying to keep the Trump administration from weeding out the waste, the abuse, the fraud. And I just can't wrap my brain around why anybody would object to that. Why would even a Democrat object? the farthest left Democrat in the U.S. House or the U.S. Senate, why would they object to someone like Elon Musk using his business ability to go in, take a fresh look at an agency, and make suggestions on how it can be run in a better way? How waste can be deleted? How abuse... can be sought out and eliminated. Why would they object to this? I mean, I've literally tried to imagine what they're thinking. Now, I understand they hate Donald Trump, but by trying to stop him from doing what the American people ask him to do, are they not really showing their true colors and how much they hate our country? How could you love our country and not want to see us get back on track, balance our budget, eliminate our debt? Elon Musk, in his interview last night with President Trump and Sean Hannity, made it very clear that if we don't do something now, our country's going to go bankrupt. In cut number four, Musk talked about how our country, now's the time. We don't have a whole lot of time left if we don't get this train back on the tracks. Here's Elon Musk.
SPEAKER 14 :
The overall goal is to try to get a trillion dollars out of the deficit. And if the deficit is not brought under control, America will go bankrupt. This is a very important thing for people to understand. A country is no different from an individual in that if an individual overspends, an individual can go bankrupt. And so can a country. And the massive waste, war, and abuse that has been going on, which is leading to a $2 trillion a year deficit, that's what the president was handed on Jan. 20th, a $2 trillion deficit. It's insane.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's almost like we have become so accustomed... to deficit spending that we're numb to it now. You know, there was a time in my lifetime where we balanced the budget and where we frowned upon deficit spending. But it's like, even Republicans, look, we've had control of the U.S. House and U.S. Senate before when we have spent more than we took in. But Elon Musk had been very clear And we all have known it. But by his organization going in and literally giving us examples of some of the fraud, some of the abuse, some of the waste, it just brings it full center, doesn't it? A texter on the MyPillow text line says, I was struck by Musk always and only respectfully and probably intentionally referring to Trump as the president, not by first name, last name, or nickname, but as president. Trump, however, used Musk as first name, showing a friendship. And, you know, I noticed that, too. But that's what you do when you're sitting there with the President of the United States. I don't care how good of friends you are. And in private, he may call him Donald. But in public, he's always the President. And that's just Musk showing his respect by referring to him as the President. You know, there was one point, too, in last night's interview – If you saw any of it, you noticed that Musk was wearing his official uniform, a T-shirt, a black T-shirt. And last night it had tech support on it. And in cut number five, he's very clear that he views himself as just someone working for Donald Trump, as Donald Trump's tech support.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm a technologist, and I try to make technologies that improve the world and make life better. You can show your shirt. Yeah, and that's why I like my T-shirt that says tech support, because I'm here to provide the president with technology support. Now, that may seem like, well, is that a silly thing? But actually, it's a very important thing, because the president will make these executive orders, which are very sensible and good for the country, but then they don't get implemented, you know? So... If you take, for example, all the funding for the migrant hotels, the president issued an executive order, hey, we need to stop taking taxpayer money and paying for luxury hotels for illegal immigrants, which makes no sense. Obviously, people do not want their tax dollars going to fund high-end hotels for illegals. And yet they were still doing that, even as late as last week. And so, you know, we went in there and we're like, this is a violation of the presidential executive order. It needs to stop. So what we're doing here is one of the biggest functions of the Doge team is just making sure that the presidential executive orders are actually carried out. And this is—I just want to point out, this is a very important thing, because the president is the elected representative of the people, so he's representing the will of the people. And if the bureaucracy is fighting the will of the people and preventing the president from implementing what the people want, then what we live in is a bureaucracy and not a democracy.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a good point, and several times, and even President Trump gave Musk credit for the idea that he came to him and said, you know, Mr. President, you can sign an executive order, but if they don't take it seriously or if it's not implemented, it means nothing, and showed the president how he needed to allow – Musk and his team to hand deliver that executive order to whatever agency it is affecting and making sure, watching over them, making sure they implement it. That's a good point. Very valid point. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. You can send me a quick text on the MyPillow text line. I always use promo code MikeG when you go to MyPillow.com to place your order. Phone calls are welcome. Teresa will put you in queue. We'll talk as time permits us. Let's go to the phones. Todd is in Atlanta. Welcome, Todd. You're on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to say that the nation isn't bankrupting the government. The government is bankrupting the nation.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bingo.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, you know, we've been fighting this for a long time. I went to a lot of Tea Party rallies back, you know, 10 years ago, 15 years ago. And, you know, I recall when Newt Gingrich, we actually had a ballot budget before 9-11 happened. So, you know, and these bureaucrats are unelected. They are... Who knows where this money is going? And this is the first time in my lifetime that I've ever been able to actually see under the hood of all these agencies. And they're unionized. They're all – 90 percent of them vote Democrat, unelected bureaucrats. Who knows where this money is actually ending up? I think it's going back into their coffers. And they can't stand that they're being exposed. And I love what Trump and those are doing.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're terrified, Todd, because, you know, this has happened in less than a month. I mean, tomorrow will be the one-month mark of Donald Trump's second administration. And look at what's already happened. in this short period of time and they're terrified of what can actually happen over the next four years and you're right this is the first time that the american people have been able to see on black and white you know see this printed on on a piece of paper the billions and billions of dollars that's being wasted on programs that are just i mean they're hideous some of the things that we're seeing that that our money's going to and and so they're terrified at what They know what else is out there, and they're terrified that Elon Musk is going to find it.
SPEAKER 05 :
And they'll trace it back to them.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, exactly. Exactly. Hey, appreciate your phone call, Todd. Have a great day. 800-655-6453, one line open for you. Chuck is in Sarasota, Florida. Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show, Chuck. Hey, Chuck, you with us? Okay, I guess we lost Chuck. But, you know, Todd makes a good point there. You can go to the website, to Doge's website. Let's see, it's just doge.gov. And right now, when you go to doge.gov, they have their wall of receipts. And you can go through there and you can see some of the latest – expenditures that have been cut. For example, from the Department of Homeland Security, they've been able to find over $8 billion in savings now. The Agency for International Development, I'm not quite sure what they do, but they've been able to identify over $6 billion in savings. Department of Education, over a billion. And, hey, when they just completely eliminate the Department of Education, That number is going to be even larger, which that's a good discussion point. You know, there's a lot of speculation that maybe we've been talking about possibly eliminating the Department of Education for years now. Donald Trump seems to be intent on doing this. And if it's ever going to be eliminated, this is the time that it will be. How do you feel about that? I mean, do you agree that education is better being regulated, being formulated at the local level? Can our local school boards and even our State Department of Education, can we send that money, for example, in my home state of South Carolina to the South Carolina Department of Education, our superintendent, Ellen Weaver? who's a great person, can we send that money to her for her to funnel it down to the local school districts and it be better spent? Are you good with that? Do we need a Department of Education at the federal level? 800-655-6453. Love to get your comments. You can text me on the MyPillow text line as well, 800-655-6453. I'm Joey Hudson. In for Mike today. Mike is at the White House, and we're hoping to be able to check in with him at some point to get an update. And we've got a busy, busy day for you. Of course, your phone calls, your comments. You can email me as well, joey at joeyhudson.com. It's important that you join the conversation as well.
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Mike Gallagher. As we continue this special broadcast of the Mike Gallagher Show today, I'm Joey Hudson. In studio as Mike is at the White House, a special day where members of talk radio and other media were invited to the White House to get a chance to meet with a number of cabinet members, senior leaders in the Trump administration, and just meet this all-star team who is working so hard for the American people. On her first official trip as President Trump's on his cabinet, Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins traveled to Kentucky last week to meet with farmers and other leaders in the agricultural community. And I'm happy to say that she joins us on our guest line today. Madam Secretary, welcome and how are you?
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm great. How are you?
SPEAKER 02 :
I am wonderful. It's a pleasure to have you. Before we get into some of the issues that we're going to talk about today, take us behind the scenes, if you will, and tell us about the process. When did you know that President Trump was going to nominate you to be his Secretary of Ag?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, actually, this is so fun that you asked this because I haven't told it publicly yet, but it's an amazing story. So what your listeners may not know is I worked for the president in the last White House year two, three and four of term one. I ran his domestic policy agenda, got to work right alongside him. And then in the intervening four years, I like to call it the great pause. During the Great Pause, I built the America First Policy Institute and really was working to prepare for the next administration so that when President Trump won again and he went in with his new administration, that the shock and awe would start on day one. And so now did I expect to be part of that cabinet? I actually did not. I was shocked. Really happy to keep helping on the outside. I was building a 100-year infrastructure along with other amazing patriots at America First Policy and America First Works. My husband and I and our four kids were driving in our motorhome from Texas to Alabama to watch the Aggies play Auburn in a football game. We won't talk about the outcome of the game on this show because it did not go our way, but it seems very appropriate now and maybe providential as we're driving across Mississippi. In Texas and Alabama, I got a call from the president and we discussed being his 33rd secretary of agriculture. I was honored, obviously, beyond belief, the opportunity to fight for American agriculture, our farmers and our ranchers. The backbone of this country is truly the greatest honor and the best job in the world.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. You mentioned those four years, you know, those were painful years for us. But, you know, God works in mysterious ways. And I've just got to believe that maybe we needed those four years to really prepare for the next four years, eight years, 12 years, whatever that is. Do you feel like that's the case?
SPEAKER 01 :
I 100 percent do. And I'll tell you, I the White House before, I'm so proud of all those accomplishments. And, you know, right. Energy independence, a secure border, the lowest poverty rates on record. I mean, it was one win after another, but it was almost a miracle. Maybe it was because we didn't really we're not good at government on our side. Right. We're good at building businesses. and raising families. The left really bows to the altar of government and climate, and that's their fastball. That's what they live for, is to accumulate power and to make decisions for people instead of letting people make their own decisions, which is what we believe. And what I realized in the last White House is that If we can prepare, if we can build a bench, if we start to get ready for the next White House and then the one after that, and then the one 100 years from now, we've got the truth and God on our side. And when you have that and you add a plan to it, you can win. And that's what I learned in the last White House. So while we were devastated on November 4th of 2020, when that election was, we believe, was taken from us, And I knew that we had to begin to plan immediately. I didn't know President Trump would be the next one to go in, but I knew that whomever it was, that if we were prepared, we could actually save a country. And I believe that God gave us those four years to be able to prepare and do that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. On our guest line today, Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins. President Trump has asked all federal agencies, of course, to review and to cut wasteful spending. In this short time that you've been on the job, because you just took the oath of office last week, what have you been able to identify so far in the Department of Agriculture?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, it has been just a remarkable couple of days. Within my first 24 hours, we announced the ending date 1,000 DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, which basically means dividing us. We announced 1,000 of those being canceled for good. We've begun to roll back all of the climate, the Green New Deal efforts. We have been laying off a lot of the 106,000 USDA employees. I'm still getting my arms around it. Obviously, the United States Department of Agriculture is one of the most important and ensuring that the backbone of our country, our farmers and ranchers, can succeed. But when you've got 106,000 employees and 80% of your budget is the food stamp program, which is under USDA, you know that there is a tremendous amount of opportunity to streamline, make more efficient, and ensure that our taxpayers are getting the most for their money. So that's what we've really been focused on, and you'll be hearing a lot more about that going forward.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. You had the opportunity to be in Kentucky last week meeting with farmers. What was top of mind for those farmers that you met with?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and not only was I in Kentucky Friday, I was in Kansas Monday, Missouri yesterday, headed to Oklahoma on next Monday, Georgia soon after. I'm really planning to try to be in the country talking to the farmers there. and the ranchers. As much as I'm talking to anybody else, I think that's so important. Listen, we are facing, in perhaps 100 years, the most difficult time in the ag community economically. Under the Joe Biden four years, our exports went from being a plus 50 billion, meaning that we were shipping our ag products out of this country when Trump left office four years ago, to a $45 billion export deficit that we're facing after four years of Biden. Our inputs, The cost, of course, not surprising to all of your listeners. Inflation has gone out of control. But it is now 30% more expensive for our farmers and ranchers to do business, to provide what they provided just four years ago, 30% more expensive. We've lost 140,000 family farms. in recent history. This is not sustainable. We can't keep going if we want an ag industry. So these are all massive issues. Of course, immediately the avian flu, which hits everybody because of the cost of eggs we've all seen at the grocery store. We've got some pretty big issues to tackle, but I feel so strongly that with President Trump's leadership and hopefully I'll be able to help in my perch that we're going to be able to tackle all of that successfully in very short order.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Secretary Brooke Rollins, it's a pleasure to have you with us today. Thank you for your time. Thank you for what you're doing, and we're going to expect big things in the next four years.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I love you guys. The Mike Gallagher Show, you are always and have always been such great friends of this administration. And I'll come on any time you need me, so thank you for the opportunity.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, we'll certainly take you up on that. Have a wonderful day.
SPEAKER 01 :
You too. Bye-bye.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes. Secretary Brooke Rollins with the Department of Agriculture. It's going to be fun to watch this. And this is just one of many instances with the various agencies that they're going to dig deep. And there's something that can be cut in every agency, and we're seeing that already in these early days of the Trump administration. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike today. Appreciate you being with us.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks for taking my call. Sure. I hope you can help me out. I pride myself on being a pretty good student of history. I'm trying to remember the last time an American president criticized an ally for defending themselves against being invaded.
SPEAKER 02 :
The situation now with Russia? What situation are you referencing now? Ukraine and Russia?
SPEAKER 04 :
How many allies are we criticizing for defending themselves against being invaded? Yeah, Ukraine.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
When was the last time we did that? Do you recall?
SPEAKER 02 :
Do you support our efforts in Ukraine? Do you think we should continue to send billions of dollars there?
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you remember when the U.S. started World War II?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Well, I wasn't alive then, but look, here's the point, David. I think people, the American people, they saw what Joe Biden, the corruption in Ukraine, They saw Joe Biden's relationship with Ukraine. They saw the fact that the first son, Hunter Biden, was paid millions of dollars by an energy company in Ukraine. We just don't necessarily trust Ukraine to spend the billions of dollars that we're spending there. Plus the fact we can't take care of the world. It's not our job. We need to take care of ourselves. So, you know, I think President Trump is right. First off, had he been president, it would have never started anyway. So it's time to stop it. It's time to move on. We can't keep sending billions of dollars to a country like Ukraine or any other country, for that matter. We have to support our allies to a degree, but we've got to take care of ourselves. Jeff is in Indianapolis. Welcome, Jeff. Hello, Turk. What's on your mind today?
SPEAKER 03 :
My mind is, hell, these states are misusing federal funds. Indiana is doing it real bad.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
They're taking federal funds and passing them. One county will pass their federal funds to another county to blackball somebody that they don't like because they can't prove what. I've been accused. I'm kind of like Donald Trump. I've been accused of everything and never been convicted of anything because they can't get nothing on me. I'm innocent, and I've done proved I'm innocent.
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Well, you make a good point, Jeff, in that, yes, these local governments that receive federal funding, yes, there's abuse at all levels. That's why I love the idea that the whole concept of Doge is being considered at other levels of government. It's not something that has to be only at the federal level. I know in my home state of South Carolina, We have a bill right now being considered by our legislature that will establish a South Carolina Doge-like commission. There will be members of this commission appointed by the governor, by the legislature. No one on the commission can be an elected official. with the idea that these people will go through our state spending. We have the same thing being discussed at local levels, on county council, school boards, city councils. And that's what we need to do. We need to look at every single government program and look at it through the eyes of, do we still need this? Is it still doing what we thought it would do when it was established? And nothing should be protected. Nothing. If they're doing what they should be doing and if it's still useful. I mean, there are situations, things that I've read about. that have been uncovered in these just few short weeks of the Trump administration. Organizations that receive money, nonprofit organizations, who have been receiving it for decades, and they don't even do the same mission. They're not even in business for the same mission that they started years ago, but they keep taking the money. So it's time to check it, and we have to assume that there is fraud at every level. We have to assume that, yes, people at the local level, people at the state level, they're taking our money, and it's time to stop. And if you saw the interview last night with Elon Musk and President Trump, Elon Musk is a man on a mission, and he has the ability to do it. his people can go in and they can uncover things that the typical bureaucrat would never even think of. It is truly, when we say it's a new day, it is truly a new day. Derek is in Illinois. Welcome, Derek.
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Hi, welcome. Thank you for taking my call. Sure. You had a previous caller who talked about the elections, and I just said, I just called your... caller, lady, and I have an idea. I had an idea for a while, which hasn't caught fire yet, but I think we should have coded ballots so that we could vote and we have a code on the ballot, and then we could take that code as a receipt and verify it. You know, we could have it both paper ballots and have it all recorded. on the computer so we could get the results right away, but we could also verify it. Like the next day, go in and check our code and see if our ballot was counted correctly because our ballot would be there on the screen. We could verify it. So we could not only have perfect elections, we could verify it, and everybody knows... their ballot counted and counted correctly.
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Make sure that it was counted the way you submitted it. I get it. Look, there's always room for improvement with how we operate, conduct our elections. I've never understood why it takes so long. Look, you can do things online now where you get instant response. You can place an order with Amazon, and you get an immediate confirmation, and the package shows up on your doorstep the next day. We just have to make sure that we are using – and look, hey, Elon Musk may get involved in election integrity as well. He may get involved in looking at our election system and how we do that. There's a lot to do here, for sure. I'm Joey Hudson. End for Mike Gallagher today as he's at the White House. And, boy, what a busy day we have.
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Join us as we navigate the complexities of today's headlines, from unexpected heroics in Florida to heated debates about fiscal responsibility. Dana tackles the absurdity of government spending proposals and the media's portrayal of Elon Musk's tweet. We also shed light on an unusual daycare practice that enraged parents and discuss why not everyone is thrilled with restaurant names in upscale neighborhoods. With sharp commentary and unfiltered insights, this episode is not to be missed.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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This is really the only Florida Man story you probably need today. A Florida Man ran over an alligator with an SUV to save his neighbor from being eaten. A Florida man and his dogs are lucky to be alive because they got attacked by gators. The man was in an 11-foot gator's mouth being dragged away when his neighbor drove his Lincoln, his SUV, over the gator. He threw it in reverse and went back right over that gator. Rick Fingerit of Florida, his two labs. They were walking the usual route, passed a pond. They stay away from the water, but this thing came at them 10 miles an hour. The guy tripped, and then the gator got him in his jaws. The dogs were frozen in terror, so his neighbor saved his life with an SUV. Third hour next, Carol Woff will be joining us. Stick with us. I'm so... This issue with the planes. So, I'm not... We talked about the Toronto crash, and the... The Delta crew, was it a Delta Endeavor crew? And I know that they've been real big on, you know, on, didn't they put out a video where they were talking about unmanned flights, meaning it's all women. I'm going to need, so I can't be completely blamed solely. I'm going to need everyone to let me know on a scale of one to 10, how straightforward do you want me to be with you on this?
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Can I choose 11?
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Well, Kane says 11. I don't know what the chat chooses, but... I think they're going to go with 11. They may not. You've got some very sensible people in that room. I don't know. You've got some of the rabble-rousers.
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That's true. I feel like the chat is mature enough to take the 11 truth from you.
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We'll see what they say. We'll see what they say. But this crash in Toronto, thankfully there were no fatalities or anything that came from that. But there's a lot of interesting stuff, though, that has come out in the meantime about the crash and about how they conduct business. And one of those, I mean, you have the Endeavor flight crew, and they've been really big on having it, I guess, what, all ladies? I don't know. They wanted a lady, all lady flight. So they called it an unmanned flight. They were, I don't know. I don't know how much that contributed to what happened in Toronto. Separate from that, what I am going to say, and if you're offended by this, I am not Dora the Explorer and I may not be for you. If I get on a plane and it's all broads, I'm off. I ain't dealing with it. I'm not dealing with it. If I get on a plane and it's a bunch of broads that are trying to make TikTok music videos of themselves instead of preparing the damn plane for flight, I'm off. Now, I say that because they literally did that. So there is a video out there, and I don't know how much of it we can play because of all the copyrighted music on it. Yes?
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We can play maybe a couple seconds of the music, but then we'll turn that volume down so you can kind of see the absurdity.
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Okay, first off, can I just interject? The chat is entirely irresponsible. They said level 20.
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Level 20.
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Yeah. Things catch on fire at that level.
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I have a newfound respect for the chat.
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You are inciting them, sir.
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I'm not. I'm just agreeing with them.
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You guys out in Rumble, you ignore what he just said. What? Lorraine says it's 15 to 20. Okay. If I get on a plane and it's a bunch of bitches doing MIA, you know, live fast, die young. I'm going to get off that plane. That's what's going to happen. So these chicks made a video, and I don't know if this was directed by Endeavor's flight crew or if these chicks decided to do it themselves, but they did this video that they put up on TikTok, and it's them jamming to... a bunch of different songs, including M.I.A., who's an artist that I liked before it became popular for seamster conservatives to like her. M.I.A.' 's 2013 single, Bad Girls, which has a story behind the song and the accompanying video. So they did this, and Juan can show you some of it. They did this video where, I guess they had the mom from The Incredibles, they used, which was... They used her lyrics and then they were playing M.I.A.' 's Bad Girls at the beginning of this video clip. And they were talking about unmanned flights and it's all the ladies going through. Look, the lady's checking the plane. The lady's here. The lady's dancing. And oh my gosh, I just cannot. No offense, girls, but this does not inspire passenger confidence. And I don't even know if any of these women were the ones that were flying the plane. See, this is so... Okay. Full stop. Full stop. Full stop. We're going to talk about the video in a minute, but why are you making a video about a plane using a song that talks about dying? Like right in the first measure. Why? Why? Why do that? Look, we're going to live fast and die young. Great motto for a plane. Fly with us. We're going to die young. What the hell? happening who's directing this gosh is it Captain Extensions I don't know so why that's not the best song choice sidebar why they didn't use paper planes I don't know MIA sunk paper planes which was made very very famous by Danny Boyle's film that included what was it was like the game show was set in India and it was talking to it like the rags to riches getting around the class system all that stuff that actually would have been more appropriate But they decided to use this video. Why did they decide to use MIA's 2013 bad girls? Here's why. When that video came out at the time, Saudi Arabia did not allow legally women to drive. Women could not drive. Very patriarchal society. Women could not like drive. They could not get in a car and drive themselves to a doctor appointment. They couldn't do any of that stuff. So MIA, she got a lot of criticism because they were saying that she was using Arabian stereotypes in her video. And I think that those people are just being stupid and sensitive. because to say that she's you know somehow cliche is asinine but her video was a protest music video against Saudi Arabia's then ban on women driving and I say then ban because when they got the new king in Saudi Arabia he changed that and he does and now women can drive in Saudi Arabia but at the time when they were doing this video and it was about basically They had Saudi, presumably Saudi women. It was filmed in Morocco and they were on this like desert dirt track and they were drifting and doing all kinds of tricks and stuff like that. And it was a bunch of Saudi men that were watching these women racing cars. And it was supposed to be this, you know, kind of fist in the air. Yeah, well, women, you know, Saudi women can't drive. Here we are. You know, we enjoy this just like anybody else. So it was kind of like a protest video. So hijacking that song. And trying to say that it is a great soundtrack to women in the United States who are free to do whatever they want to do. And actually making what I think is an inherently reverse discriminatory video where you're celebrating women doing basic stuff that doesn't need to be celebrated. And this is one of the things I don't understand about the insipidness of feminism. Basic bitches doing basic stuff. Woo. Why do you have to sit here and celebrate and high five every time you do a basic human activity? Stop it. If you don't want there to be two levels, then stop acting like you're special or than everybody else just because you have a vagina. I'm so done with it. That being said, that was so dumb to use that song because it's not even comparable. Number one. Number two, it is absolutely asinine that you're making a video about flying a plane and you're talking about dying in it. And then several months later, you literally flip a plane out of the sky. I don't know if abroad was flying it or not. I'm just saying it's not a good look. You know? It's not a good look.
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It's like they could have used, like, what? Another One Bites the Dust by Queen? Like, is there a worse song they could have used for that?
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I mean, it's like using a Buddy Holly song. You know? While you're making a video about coming and flying with us and you play a Buddy Holly track. You see what I'm saying? It's just... dumb. And then it makes me question, if you know so little about music, then what else do you not know about? Right? And I just, I don't want, I don't take any of this seriously. When I, if I, look, if I'm getting on a plane and if it's going to be all women, give me a bunch of like all butchy German ladies. Okay? I'm going to, I'm going to trust that more than I will extensions McGee. Does that mean to say, I don't care. I don't care. I'm just going to trust that kind. I'm just, you know, I'm going to trust that more.
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That's that level 11 truth we've been looking for.
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So, first, we've got Carol Roth coming up after headlines today. The What? A Caledonia area daycare apparently got in trouble for using melatonin spray, and they are promising parents that it won't be used again. What in the world? So they say that parents are upset after this daycare center in Michigan sprayed kids' sleeping mats with melatonin without their knowledge. Yeah, you can't be doing that kind of stuff. That's goofy. They said they used Dr. Teal's sleep spray with melatonin and essential oils. Some of that stuff smells like liquidized hippie. Stop it. Nobody wants to smell like a dirty armpit. Nobody wants their kids to lay down on a cot or a mat that smells like that. And they said that it's not been approved by FDA, like that matters, for using by kids. Don't be spraying stuff on other people's kids where they sleep. Stop it. Just do your damn jobs. You know, tire the kids out with activities and they'll take naps without having to use a sleep aid. Idiots. A... Wow. What is this headline? Okay. A restaurant called... It's actually called Chubby Chicks? Yes. In Philadelphia, a restaurant called Chubby Chicks is... The business owner is claiming she's being bullied by people who are not happy that she's there. They said it's a very fancy restaurant. We don't want our fancy area. We don't want a place called Chubby Chicks there. What... What does Chubby Chicks do? Because the article does not say literally anything about it.
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And I'm like... I envision large portions.
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What?
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Large portions. That's it? That's what the restaurant does.
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That's all it is? Well, what's wrong with that?
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I envision that. I don't really know. Because like you said, it's not in the article.
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Yeah. I mean, like what... What is with the... I mean, if that's all it is, then why is that... a big deal if it's just larger portions.
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I guess they hate the name.
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So yeah, they don't like the name. And the restaurants, there's one publication that said they're dividing the neighborhood with upset patrons. I don't even, good grief. If it's not like a strip club of fat chicks, then what's the problem? You know what I'm saying? That's what I first honestly thought it was going to be. And I'm like, why do I care? I don't know. The folks at Kel-Tec who've always been continuing to redefine the game with cutting edge design and performance. So the PR57, which is a 5.7, It's innovative rotary barrel makes it the lightest one on the market. It is 40% lighter than the next five seven. It's amazing. And they do that again with the rotary barrel and then also the unique top loading design. So they replace the traditional magazines with stripper clips. So you have a slimmer carry profile, but you also get a 20 plus one capacity. It's low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. And it's perfect, actually, for everyday carry. It really is. I mean, it's like the 5.7 I could actually conceal carry. And the MSRP, only $399. So it's super affordable. First of its kind from Caltech, the PR57 rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7. Visit caltechweapons.com to learn more. Innovation Performance Caltech. K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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80% of the Doge money saved needs to go to paying down the national debt. And the other 20% needs to go right back to the same people who sent it to DC in the first place. Taxpayers like you and me. Doge is set to save $2 trillion over the next two years. There are 78 million taxpaying households in America. That means that $25,000 per household is is what's being saved by doge 20 000 of that goes towards the national debt and the other thousand the other five thousand needs to go right back to households in the form of a doge dividend a check saying that the federal government misused your funds we abused them we sent it to the transgender opera in colombia we did not do right by you
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So this is James. Mark that for me. I've got to come back to that. That's James Fishbeck. He's this entrepreneur. You know, he's a money dude. And so I want to set up the whole narrative that's trending today about Musk and the $5,000 to every Tom, Dick, and Harry in the U.S. of A. Because this came up on social media, that guy's video. And there was a conversation and Musk had responded. And all he said was, you know, I'll ask the president or I'll talk to the president, I think was his tweet. So he never said that he liked it or that he wanted to do it. But that doesn't stop these over-eager reporters from, you know, mouth breathing all over their keyboard and going, oh my gosh, this is what Elon Musk, Elon Musk is personally himself mulling over giving $5,000 to everyone. And he didn't actually say that. He just responded to someone, like acknowledged what they said. And was like, OK, then, you know, I'll say something to the president about it. That's, you know, or I'll ask the president is what he said. And it is a real creative stretch to say that he's mulling sending all Americans five thousand dollar checks. And that's what Forbes ran with. So wanted to set that up because that's. The stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. It is so stupid. It kills brain cells without alcohol. It is dumber than heels on Crocs. It is that stupid. Ask yourself when the last time the government sending checks out to everyone worked well. Oh, the covid checks. That wasn't there was no waste, fraud or abuse there at all. Right. That was all a OK. What about those stimmy checks? Every time the stimmy checks have gone out, that's always been great, hasn't it? This is why I say, and it's not Musk's idea. The media just wants to set him up to go at him. He responded to someone else who is proposing the idea. Musk didn't endorse it. You know, good grief. So the reason it's dumb is because have you seen our deficit lately? We are on the edge of a cliff. I mean, we I know that what's his face? John Kennedy down in Louisiana says this is a joke. I'm not kidding you. We actually may all be living in the desert eating cat food at some point. I mean, that's a very real possibility. And I don't know if it's going to be like cane, like the kind that you have to put water in and basically bring it back to life or if it's going to be the crappy burnt kibble. I don't know. But at some point it's going to happen. Stock up, y'all. You got a remedy. You have to pay down the deficit first. That's a real thing. We're taxed to death. We have zero incentive to be burdened more after learning how badly our taxes have been wasted. I mean, this is this is it's it's an it's an asinine proposal. It's not something that's like saying, OK, well. We're half a million dollars in debt. You know what we're going to do to remedy that? We're going to get rid of our Amazon Prime subscription. That's right. Woo, we feel so much better. Let's go to the casino. That's what that is. That's how that works. It's true. It's a completely accurate comparison. And why would everyone get $5,000? No, I paid six figures in taxes. Do you realize that there are more people who pay into the system than not? No, not everyone pays their fair share and the people bitching about it are the ones who don't. So this is, and if you think it stops at 5,000, people will keep demanding more and more and more. You have to pay down the deficit first. That's the biggest issue. The other issue is you have to immediately stop this stupid government spending. It is the fact that you have no idea what all we're spending money on is proof that we're spending money on things that we shouldn't be spending money on. I mean, you know, everything should be Article 1, Section 8, cut it to there, cut spending. You would have... oh my gosh, your coffers would overflow. All throughout history, whenever taxes have increased, revenue to the government's actually decreased. This has been even back in Kennedy's day in the 60s. He actually understood this, which is why he was a proponent of tax cuts and less government spending. Of course, he would have been quasi-crucified today, but that used to be where Democrats were, if it gives you any insight. No, we have to have tax cuts and then we have to cut government spending and we have to pay down the deficit. It requires an austerity that frankly, I don't think this nation has the stomach for. I don't think we can do it. In fact, I would bet everything on the fact that we're not going to do it. I know that you want to hear something super happy. You get, you know, you're retired, semi-retired goth, former, not really former Daria to just give you the straight truth. That's my perspective on it. I don't want to set you up for a great emotional fall because I feel like if I tell you anything different, I'm lying to you. Now, I don't really think that it's necessarily a reflection on the administration, although in some part it can be. Trump has an amazing bully pulpit. If he so chose, he could use that on all of these people that are dragging their feet in Congress. You know, we have these big fights. About, you know, who's going to be in what seed. And, you know, I'm going to go. I cannot stand the power jockeying fights. I think it shrinks brains. It does. It shrinks brains. It shrinks your jimmies. How about that? Like, I don't know how else. It makes everybody low T and estrogen dominant. I don't know. It's a horrible thing. I can't stand the power jockeying. Everyone wants the cocktail invites. They want to be power adjacent. They want to be pictured at the White House. You know. It's so dumb. I just want to be left the hell alone and leave my money alone and just govern responsibly. And I think most everyone wants that. And I think there are some Republicans in Congress that want that. But it's irrelevant because they're weak. They're all so terrified.
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The Republican Party stands at a crossroads: can they truly implement promised spending cuts or will they falter under political pressure? In this thoughtful analysis, we hear from Speaker_08 and others who express deep frustration and skepticism about the GOP's ability to follow through on its commitments. As Lindsey Graham proposes additional spending and tax cut policies seem to be brushed aside, this episode critically examines what this means for voters loyal to fiscal conservatism. Could this be the breaking point for those urging for a smarter budget?
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$520 million for a consultant on the environment. It's called environmental, social, and governance investments in Africa. and mobilize private sector resources, $520 million. Somebody got $520 million for an environmental, sounds like an environmental study. I've always been one that paid a lot of money for my environmental studies, but they, you know, I paid like $50,000, not 520 million, $520 million for ESG. $25 million to promote biodiversity, conservation, and promote licit livelihoods by developing socially responsible behavior in the country of Colombia. Well, that's nice. $25 million to go into Colombia for something that nobody ever heard of. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. $40 million. $42 million for Johns Hopkins, great place to research and drive social and behavior change in Uganda. $42 million. What about us? What about social change in our country? $70 million for a center at Purdue to research university-sourced, evidence-based solutions to developmental challenges. I mean, these are massive numbers on things that nobody ever heard about. I can't even do it with you. This is where our tax dollars go.
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Oh my gosh. I just want to launch my, I'm going to yeet myself and all of mankind off a roof. If you've ever, I mean, I am in a Daria mood every day. I wake up and I'm like, how did the government fritter away more of my money today? How did, what's, what's happening? I'm going to need a lot of black coffee and also probably something in it. Just saying, welcome to the show. I'm taking advantage of the dry, freezing weather that's lowering my voice by an octave. And we're going to roll with it because it's like a gift, really. It is. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour, ladies and gents. I'm not even joking. Like, I need black and bitter like my heart. More coffee. That was just... What was the... I was trying to do the math on that. The crazy thing is, is that... That's because you said it's a drop in the bucket. When you add it up, you're like, oh, that's like several, that's a few billion. Now to us, we're like, oh my gosh. Think about your day-to-day budget. If someone's like, it's just a billion dollars. And you're like, oh my gosh, I don't have a billion dollars. Who does? And well, taxpayers do. But with government, with them, it's like no big deal. No big deal. So I... Because they're used to spending trillions. I just about can't handle it. And I'm going to tell you something. We're going to have a very difficult time. And we're going to have a difficult conversation today about this difficult time. I already told you once about Republicans in Congress, did I not? Did I not? I told you once about Republicans in Congress. And I said that this is going to be the true test. This is going to be the true test of all of these people and their tough talking all throughout the election. Guys, I hate to inform you, but the fight hasn't even started. Oh, no, loves. It hasn't even started. It's just gearing up. The fight wasn't to establish Doge. The fight wasn't even for Doge to recommend cuts. The fight is going to be whether or not Republicans actually institute those cuts. And this is the big issue. Because there are a lot of Republicans in Congress. They talk a really good game. They talk a super good game. And then when push comes to shove, they fold. They crumple. Apparently, we're going to have an easier time in the Senate than we will in the House. And that means blank all until we get there. We've got to get to that point. And already, Republicans are fighting back against it. These cuts. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you this. If Republicans fail to implement these cuts, If they fail to even do a quarter of what is asked, I don't think I can ever vote Republican again. I think I'm content with letting it all burn down. I'm not kidding. This is it. This is it here. This. What happens now in these next six months is going to determine the future of the everyone's like the Republican Party strong. You forget voters are fickle. As they should be, quite honestly. I want to know how much of you left me alone. How much of my money have you not touched? How much have you saved? Voters are fickle. And they will remember if Republicans betrayed them. And here's another addition. For those people who only came to the party because of Trump, these people will torpedo his legacy. And they will make him look like a laughingstock. They will betray him that much. And if you don't think they will, you don't know the horrors in D.C., I don't like any of them. It is a necessary evil of a sinful mankind that we even have to deal with governing ourselves this way. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to have checks and balances if I want to pay homage to what the founders wrote in the Federalist Papers about such structures. But this is the real test. And I... I'm already seeing it. For instance, Lindsey Graham, his spending bill, and this is the budget bill I've been talking about, his spending bill, he wanted to, I can't even hardly get it out of my mouth, he wanted to spend an additional, dear heavens, an additional $345 billion, or $75 billion. I'm going to look what Rand Paul tweeted, because Rand Paul was going at him. Rand Paul, ooh. That's going to be very, very—it has to be very uncomfortable, you know, both there in the Senate together. But that's the real thing. I mean, they—he wanted to increase spending. That was his proposal. So this is already happening. We're already seeing them fold. We're already seeing them—and this is what they're going to look at it. They're going to be, oh, they're going to say, oh, we got— got all these savings from doge that means we can spend this money on a whole bunch of other stuff they they immediately look at doge savings and like oh this is more money we can spend on things that's the other downside of this so we're gonna we're gonna follow this closely and we we have to lay this out because this is this is gonna be a real problem and you know i gotta tell you with this i mean I don't even know how we're proposing an additional multi, you know, several hundred billion dollars in spending as Lindsey Graham has. I don't even know how that's... I mean, that's an actual... It's Lindsey Graham, though. Are you surprised, Cain? Cain's laughing because it's Lindsey Graham. I mean, he's... So they had... They were voting on different things out of committee last night. And so one of the things that we saw... And forgive because X is having like some monumental issues with even opening major tweets. I wanted to pull up his tweets. I could quote him accurately because he had voted against that. There were he wasn't the only Republican that did. So there are other Republicans in the Senate that voted against Graham's bill. And it was three hundred and forty two billion dollars. Roll call has the full story because they're prepping for it because this week it's I mean, it's coming down the pike here. And House Republicans say that their plans are better. The Senate's insisting their plans better. They I mean, you have to balance the budget. I mean, you know, we can't just keep kicking it down the road with CRS. So they have to adopt this budget resolution in both of the chambers in order to actually resolve. You know, drafting the reconciliation bill so that they have to bring this up in their key committees and then they have to actually draft the damn thing, which. So we have this from the Senate and they these these are all parliamentary bills. procedures so it's like a motion to proceed like they're not voting on like a bill per se they don't even have a finished resolution uh they and they that's something that they got they have to they're going to be preparing in their committees but these votes are like you know motion to proceed motion open debate motion to close debate all that stuff that's what that is so The initial plan, the Senate, they they want spending boosts for defense and border security. They want domestic energy incentives and they want offsets to pay for it. Now, it doesn't at all. And this is what enrages me. It doesn't at all touch the expiration of tax cuts. This as oh, yeah, you didn't know that. No, no, not in the Senate. Now, remember, you've got House and you've got Senate. So you've got the Senate battling with a couple of different plans and committee, and then you've got the House that's also doing their own thing. So the Senate, the initial Senate plan that they had does not touch upon... And when I say the expiration of tax cuts, I'm talking about the 2017 Trump tax cuts. That was my big criticism with them is that there was the sunset, like they expired. What they did, what they promised to do, what Senate Republicans are promising to do is, oh, you know what? Because, you know, the process is so easy, guys, as you are aware, apparently, and they have no problem doing this. They're going to come back in with a second budget reconciliation process. That's going to happen later this year to deal with the pieces of the GOP agenda that pertain to taxation came. And I'm sure that you have your full faith and trust in the Republicans in the Senate to do that, don't you?
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Is there a reason why they're kicking that part down the road?
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I mean, your guess is as good as mine. I'm sure the chat over at Rumble, I'm sure everyone there agrees and has full faith and trust in the Republican Senate that, yeah, sure, winky wink, they're going to come back. They're going to handle this. They'll get it all taken care of, right? Mm-hmm. The resolution in the Senate, the one that they that they had approved of, that was a party line vote. And then they had they have all these amendments and then they basically amendment themselves to rhetorical death. But all of that's that's going to kick off tomorrow. Yeah. Today's Wednesday says kicking off tomorrow. So they want and this is Graham's bill. This is the three. This is the the bill that has the three hundred and forty five billion in new spending for border security, Pentagon, Coast Guard, et cetera. Additional spending. No, I know those are all key projects. We don't need to spend more. We need to cut the stupid spending elsewhere. I am tired of being used as a prostitute by my government. I have no nice language. I have no courtesy. I have no civility for these people anymore. I haven't had it for a long time. This is the bill. So yeah, if Republicans can't get it together, I hope it all burns down. I'm tired of carrying this damn party as I'm sure you are too. This is the test. I'm done after this. I am done with it after this. I cannot continue supporting a party that says one thing and does something else. You actually have someone in the White House right now that's willing to do it. Of course, he can't write these bills and pass them himself in Congress. Hell, they already call him a dictator. Can you imagine? And that's even some of the moderates in the party. We've got more on this because I want to correct a story that was it Forbes or Wall Street Journal? That's right. I think it's Forbes. So Elon. So the headline is that Elon Musk is mulling over suggesting sending everybody five thousand dollar payments. It's not entirely accurate. I want to talk a little bit about that, but also the disaster of. if that's even what he had proposed, what that would mean. We're going to talk about all of that. And we've got Carol Roth coming up later in the show to hit it. We've got a lot of stuff to get into as well, including the latest with Ukraine. I think Trump pretty much put that to bed. History shows gold and silver thrive under strong leadership. During President Trump's first term, gold surged 53% and silver soared 51%. With him back, could precious metals break new records in 2025 and beyond? In times of economic uncertainty, smart investors turn to assets that have proven their worth. Gold and silver have historically outperformed in volatile markets, making them a crucial part of any strategy for preserving and growing wealth. And that's why I trust the partners at Goldco. Secure your financial future today and don't wait until the next economic crisis happens. GoldCo is a trusted leader in precious metals, and with over $3 billion in gold and silver secured for hardworking Americans, they've been a top-rated company from the start. Take action and partner with a company that puts your security first. Visit danalikesgold.com right now and get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit. On top of that, you could also qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, possibly even more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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So the we're going to talk about this later, too, when we talk about all the financial stuff. An appeals court blocked Biden's student debt relief plan. They ruled Tuesday to block the former failed president and his save, which was the thieving on valuable education, income driven repayment plan.
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The Eighth Circuit ruled in favor of seven Republican Republican led states that argued that the Department of Education under Biden exceeded their authority with the implementation of save. And so that's that's huge. That's very big. KFC is moving its headquarters from Kentucky to Texas to Plano, Texas. The parent company is called Yum Brands, which I am fascinated with that name as a company because I'm like, they probably make some yummy stuff. That's my first thought. So it worked on me. I mean, great marketing. It totally worked on me. So they've been thinking about this because of lower taxes and changes to office space needs. And as you know, Texas is very, very good for businesses. I mean, it's like one of the best business states. It's really good. So they have two corporate headquarters, one in Plano and the other in California. And so... I just want to know what that means. Does that mean I'm going to have more access to chicken? Because if not, then, you know, miss me with this. I is there going to be more chicken by me? It's all I care about is me. The one change to your phone can reverse age related cognitive issues by 10 years. What says this thirsty clickbait headline? So apparently if you block the Internet for two weeks, you'll see mental health improvements. That's great unless you have to use it to work, which is most everyone wants. But they said keeping the Internet off could boost your wealth. But you know what? It doesn't matter because then you can still sell connectivity. That's still stupid. So this study is dumb, written by dumb people. Coming up, we'll talk about the most painful way to die, which is looking at this budget bill from Lindsey Graham. Stick with us. Our partners over at Super Beats, the new product Super Boreen, which now you can walk into a Sam's Club and get. Super Boreen is a plant-based supplement. formulated with an ingredient that helps to support your metabolism and also helps to support blood sugar levels it's three times more effective than your diet and exercise alone and it's it offers real results it's super convenient one easy to swallow capsule a day helps you to do more to support that metabolic health and blood sugar levels using clinically researched ingredients the berberine they use has a 10 times higher absorption rate than standard berberine it's used by doctors from the makers of super beats so head to your new york sam's club where you can save on Super B-Tart shoes and the new Super Breen from Human. You'll love the way it makes you feel.
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80% of the Doge money saved needs to go to paying down the national debt. And the other 20% needs to go right back to the same people who sent it to D.C. in the first place. Taxpayers like you and me. Doge is set to save $2 trillion over the next two years. There are 78 million taxpaying households in America. That means that $25,000 per household is what's being saved today. Transgender opera. I need a whole segment for that.
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So this is James. Mark that for me. I've got to come back to that. That's James Fishbeck. He's this entrepreneur. He's a money dude. So I want to set up the whole narrative that's trending today about Musk and the $5,000 to every Tom, Dick, and Harry in the U.S. of A. Because this came up on social media, that guy's video. And there was a conversation, and Musk had responded. And all he said was, you know, I'll ask the president or I'll talk to the president, I think was his tweet. So he never said that he liked it or that he wanted to do it, but that doesn't stop these over-eager reporters from, you know, mouth breathing all over their keyboard and going, oh my gosh, this is what Elon Musk, Elon Musk is personally himself mulling over giving $5,000 to everyone. And he didn't actually say that. He just responded to someone, like acknowledged what they said and was like, okay, Then, you know, I'll say something to the president about it. That's, you know, or I'll ask the president is what he said. And it is a real creative stretch to say that he's mulling sending all Americans five thousand dollar checks. And that's what Forbes ran with. So wanted to set that up because that's. The stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. It is so stupid. It kills brain cells without alcohol. It is dumber than heels on Crocs. It is that stupid. Ask yourself when the last time the government sending checks out to everyone worked well. Oh, the covid checks. That wasn't there was no waste, fraud or abuse there at all. Right. That was all a OK. What about those STEMI checks? Every time the stimmy checks have gone out, that's always been great, hasn't it? This is why I say, and it's not Musk's idea. The media just wants to set him up to go at him. He responded to someone else who is proposing the idea. Musk didn't endorse it. You know, good grief. So the reason it's dumb is because have you seen our deficit lately? We are on the edge of a cliff. I mean, we I know that what's his face? John Kennedy down in Louisiana says this is a joke. I'm not kidding you. We actually may all be living in the desert eating cat food at some point. I mean, that's a very real possibility. And I don't know if it's going to be like cane, like the kind that you have to put water in and basically bring it back to life or if it's going to be the crappy burnt kibble. I don't know. But at some point it's going to happen. Stock up, y'all. You got a remedy. You have to pay down the deficit first. That's a real thing. We're taxed to death. We have zero incentive to be burdened more after learning how badly our taxes have been wasted. I mean, it's an asinine proposal. It's not something that's like saying, okay, well, we're half a million dollars in debt. You know what we're going to do to remedy that? We're going to get rid of our Amazon Prime subscription. That's right. We feel so much better. Let's go to the casino. That's what that is. That's how that works. It's true. It's a completely accurate comparison. And why would everyone get five thousand dollars? No, I paid six figures in taxes. Do you realize that there are more people who pay into the system than not? No, not everyone pays their fair share and the people bitching about it are the ones who don't. So this is and if you think it stops at five thousand, people will keep demanding more and more and more. You have to pay down the deficit first. That's the biggest issue. The other issue is you have to immediately stop this stupid government spending. It is the fact that you have no idea what all we're spending money on. is proof that we're spending money on things that we shouldn't be spending money on. I mean, you know, everything should be Article 1, Section 8, cut it to there, cut spending. You would have, oh my gosh, your coffers would overflow. All throughout history. Whenever taxes have increased, revenue to the government has actually decreased. This has been even back in Kennedy's day in the 60s. He actually understood this, which is why he was a proponent of tax cuts and less government spending. Of course, he would have been quasi-crucified today, but that used to be where Democrats were, if it gives you any insight. No, we have to have tax cuts and then we have to cut government spending and we have to pay down the deficit. It requires an austerity that, frankly, I don't think this nation has the stomach for. I don't think we can do it. In fact, I would bet everything on the fact that we're not going to do it. I know that you want to hear something super happy. You get, you know, you're retired, semi-retired goth, former, not really former Daria to just give you the straight truth. That's my perspective on it. I don't want to set you up for a great emotional fall because I feel like if I tell you anything different, I'm lying to you. Now, I don't really think that it's necessarily a reflection on the administration, although in some part it can be. Trump has an amazing bully pulpit. If he so chose, he could use that on all of these people that are dragging their feet in Congress. You know, we have these big fights. About who's going to be in what seat. I cannot stand the power jockeying fights. I think it shrinks brains. It does. It shrinks brains. It shrinks your jimmies. How about that? I don't know how else. It makes everybody low T and estrogen dominant. I don't know. It's a horrible thing. I can't stand the power jockeying. Everyone wants the cocktail invites. They want to be power adjacent. They want to be pictured at the White House. You know. It's so dumb. I just want to be left the hell alone and leave my money alone and just govern responsibly. And I think most everyone wants that. And I think there are some Republicans in Congress that want that. But it's irrelevant because they're weak. They're all so terrified. I want to go back to this point in this budget bill with Lindsey Graham, the one where he actually wants to increase spending by $345 billion, Jiminy Christmas. I'm going to throw this cup. I'm going to throw this cup across the studio. Well, I mean, I'm going to throw it at you. I really can't throw well. That's a whole other story. Anyway, it's just more like hurdles. My point is that His bill was saying, OK, we're not even going to touch the expiration of the 2017 tax cuts in this first budget bill. Asinine, right? Not as asinine as the promise of, well, you know what? We'll come back later in the year and then we'll talk about it then. Do you guys honestly believe that they're going to do that? What have we been taught? Why is the reason? What is the necessity for the speed and chaos that Trump had to hit the ground running with? Do you guys remember? Why did he have to hit the ground and start pushing so hard for this stuff? Because the clock's ticking. Every month, his influence in D.C. wanes. That's the nature of it. He's termed out after this. Midterms kick into gear in several months. All of these Republicans that you could maybe potentially get on board with a very austere bill, they are going to shirk away and hide in the shadows the moment that the midterm cycle starts picking up. You are actually going to have less of a chance to do it later than right now. That is a dodge. It is a dodge by weak Republicans in the Senate, weak Republicans in the House who have no interest in cutting spending. They just want you to believe that they do and to let them off the hook. So then when midterms come around, they can be like, oh, well, we can't because it's midterms. We don't want to endanger our barely there majority. And then guess what? They're going to lose the house because they're stupid. That's what's going to happen. The worst strategist I've ever seen in my ever loving life. Or are they? Because if the strategy is maintain the status quo, they're doing a really good job. I haven't seen anything serious from any of these people in D.C. And I've been watching this. I've been watching every motion. I've been watching the progress of what they're doing in their committees. Not a single damn one of them are serious, with the exception, perhaps, of Rand Paul or or a Thomas Massey or a Mike Lee, the vast majority of them, I hate to say it, including probably some of y'all's faves, they're not serious. And it's not that they support big spending. They're just female copulatory organs. That's what they are. That's the honest truth of it. And the problem of that is they will kneecap themselves for midterms. And then what does that look like for Trump's legacy? And this is why that's important. Because then after midterms, immediately everyone's going to start gearing up for 28. Think about the consequences of this. If we don't get these cuts implemented and the battle hasn't even started for this. If we don't get this implemented, do you honestly think that anyone adjacent to this administration or anyone that ever supported anything in this administration regarding the budget is going to have a shot in hell in 28? No, you're going to that Republicans will allow for time. They're going to allow the Democrats in the media to rehabilitate either a new scum or somebody else. And the pendulum will swing the other way and they'll they'll pour sweet poison into the ears of the of the public. And then, boom, that's what's going to happen. This is a domino effect, and it all starts with the spine of these rat in Congress. It starts with them. These people are not there for you to butt kiss. They're not there for you to beg for cocktail party invites. They're not there for influencers to get their stupid photos with. They're there to work for you. They're there to do a job. And they get a lot of money for it. And they get a lot of perks off of it. And then they go and they get their Fox contributor ships and all this other stuff and their books with Regnery and everything else. They go on their tours and do all this stuff. I, you know, I'm not saying that to bad mouth, you know, the, any of those entities, but I'm saying that's the circuit. They go from this to this so they can get to this. And as long as they don't upset their own apple cart, they're fine. But if you're asking them to go out on a limb and actually take a brave stand about cutting spending, it's not going to happen. Not with these jokers. They're weak. They're anemic. For all the discussion about the strength of the Republican Party, it is still an anemic glob of trash. And it requires you to stick your foot up their backside in order to make them move. You know, the Tea Party was the polite way of making them do what voters wanted to do. And you remember how much effort had to be put in that just to get a modicum Of results, right? Just a modicum, just a little bit of movement. This is going to require great Herculean effort. So then the question becomes, well, is it one of strength of Republicans in Congress? Or is this also indicting the strength and the stomach of the voter? There are things that are going to have to get cut that people are going to be very upset about. And they're going to be reminded of it every day by the media. It is a necessary path to go through in order to achieve fiscal sustainability. But we live in an immediate gratification culture, and I don't know if enough people have the stomach to do it. I wish I could tell you that I know how this ends. I don't. And for as many discussions as people have about the red pill and the blue pill, you're going to have a lot of Republicans that are going to eagerly gobble up that blue pill just to get themselves past this fight. So the question for you, voter, is how much are you willing to tolerate? Because your answer will help determine theirs. Don't forget who leads who here. We have a lot to touch on still to come. More on some of these cuts, the latest with these bills. And then we also have to talk about the blackballed female Jesus. That's coming. Yeah, yeah. Strength and vitality inside and out. Native Path Collagen delivers the two most essential collagen types that your body needs to support strong bones and flexible joints. With Type 1 and 3 collagen without unnecessary fillers, you'll enjoy smoother movement, resilient skin, and the confidence that comes with looking and feeling your best. You'll love Native Path Collagen because it'll keep your joints feeling strong and your skin looking smooth. And you can use it daily in your morning coffee to start the day feeling your best. And best of all, Native Path offers incredible bundle deals that let you stock up and save big. 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But what I'm really worried about are the people who are not watching CNN or Fox and who are. I'm worried about that too. A lot of folks aren't looking for political conflict.
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Why is he trying to talk to Obama? But it's finding them.
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And it's finding them wrapped up in a lot of cultural stuff. You could be on parenting Instagram and you're getting this trad wife stuff with a little politics inflected into it or roving into the rest of it. And I think we really need to be much smarter about taking this conversation to places where it's not reaching folks.
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So that's not the problem, Poot. And again, I swear, I think he watches Obama videos and tries to bite off his whole style. if you look at his mannerisms and how he tries to talk, I think he tries to be like the white gay Obama. I really, the white Obama. I think he's, I'm just thinking out loud. Shut up. It was a verbal typo. Anyway, to my point, um, The problem isn't that Democrats aren't in these spaces. The problem is that the stuff they say in these spaces is stupid because that's why people are reacting so viscerally to them. It's not that they're really honestly, you think that Poot is looking at trad wives. I mean, he could be. I don't know. Maybe he's got like a fetish. I have no idea. But the idea that Democrats are not in these traditional spaces, dude, they were going into game lobbies. Shut up. They were like, they were trying to play Warhammer. Shut up. It's not that they're not going to where people are. It's that their messaging is just heinous. Nobody cares. No one wants to sit here and play a game. No one wants to be gaming. And here are some like, you know, woke dudes sit here and talk about DEI while they're, you know, slaying battle ogrens and stuff. What? that nobody wants the stupid ads if they're trying to play a game that are like pushing a political message on them that is the problem it does it all these different spaces that they're in it's not the problem the issue isn't that they're not in these spaces it's what they say in the spaces that they're in that people are like I don't want that they don't want to have anything to do with it they don't want anything to do with it all right so coming up we have to talk about the blackballed female Jesus And then maybe I have a maybe Amy Schumer could play Mohammed in a movie about Mohammed. I mean, if that's what we're going to do, let's just throw all expectations out of the window. Yeah. Like I you know, we could have I mean, I could be in charge of the casting. And I've got some suggestions, right? Some projects and some things that I think maybe some of, you know, you could cast these people for. I mean, if this is, I have to tell you about this production they're going to be doing. Was it the Hollywood Bowl? And they got that chick from Wicked. I'm so done with musicals. That's a whole other issue. So we've got a lot coming up. And also, Trump just is like, Zelensky's a dictator. What of it? got to talk about this and everything else stick with us second hour next it's the burner gun I always carry and I will always tell people and I'll tell you all that I have no issue at all whatsoever using lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones that said I have a lot of friends that work in areas where they're not able to carry because of municipal restrictions or private property restrictions one of my really dear friends works in DC and And the nature of her job requires her to sometimes be out in the city late of an evening. And she doesn't want to be attacked when she goes to her vehicle because she's disarmed pretty much everywhere, even though she has a very difficult to get license. This is where Berna comes in. Berna SD, it's their best selling model. They have other models of Berna SD is the best selling. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can stop threats from up to 50 feet away. Doesn't care about stupid gun free zone signs. There's no background checks, no permits, no waiting periods, and it can be shipped right to your door. Visit Burna.com slash Dana. That's B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana to get 10% off your purchase. It's the Burna SD. Check out the other models. Burna.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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Oh, welcome back to this glorious, frigid, 17-degree day in Texas. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom or top of the second hour. We're all grimacing. I'm wearing a turtleneck until it stops being dumb outside. That's how it is. All right, so we're in a very big Daria mood today. We've been talking about the budget, which we're going to come back to because I've got a lot more to share with you, but I didn't want to overload you in one or two segments. We're going to talk more about the budget. We're going to look at some of the latest. That's where the battle is beginning. The battle hasn't even started yet. The battle is the budget, and that starts tomorrow. So we'll discuss. But I've got to talk about a couple other things here. Including this issue with the planes. So I'm not... We talked about the Toronto crash and the Delta crew. Was it Delta Endeavor crew? Endeavor Air. And I know that they've been real big on... Didn't they put out a video where they were talking about unmanned flights, meaning it's all women? Yes. Yes, they did. I'm going to need... So I can't be completely blamed solely. I'm going to need everyone to let me know on a scale of 1 to 10 how straightforward you want me to be with you on this.
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Can I choose 11?
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Well, Cain says 11. I don't know what the chat chooses, but...
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I think they're going to go with 11.
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They may not. You've got some very sensible people in that room. I don't know. You've got some of the rabble-rousers.
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That's true. I feel like the chat is mature enough to take the 11 truth from you.
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We'll see what they say. We'll see what they say. But this crash in Toronto, thankfully there were no fatalities or anything that came from that. But there's a lot of interesting stuff, though, that has come out in the meantime about the crash and about how they conduct business. And one of those, I mean, you have the Endeavor flight crew, and they've been really big on having it, I guess, what, all ladies? I don't know. They wanted a lady, all lady flight. So they called it an unmanned flight. They were, I don't know. I don't know how much that contributed to what happened in Toronto. Separate from that, what I am going to say, and if you're offended by this, I am not Dora the Explorer and I may not be for you. If I get on a plane and it's all broads, I'm off. I ain't dealing with it. I'm not dealing with it. If I get on a plane and it's a bunch of broads that are trying to make TikTok music videos of themselves instead of preparing the damn plane for flight, I'm off. Now, I say that because they literally did that. So there is a video out there, and I don't know how much of it we can play because of all the copyrighted music on it. Yes?
SPEAKER 04 :
We can play maybe a couple seconds of the music, but then we'll turn that volume down so you can kind of see the entirety.
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Okay, first off, can I just interject? The chat is entirely irresponsible. They said level 20. Level 20. Yeah. Things catch on fire at that level.
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I have a newfound respect for the chat.
SPEAKER 08 :
You are inciting them, sir.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm not. I'm just agreeing.
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You guys out in Rumble, you ignore what he just said. What? Lorraine says it's 15 to 20. Okay. If I get on a plane and it's a bunch of bitches doing MIA, you know, live fast, die young. I'm going to get off that plane. That's what's going to happen. So these chicks made a video. And I don't know if this was directed by Endeavor's flight crew or if these chicks decided to do it themselves. But they did this video that they put up on TikTok. And it's them jamming to... A bunch of different songs, including M.I.A., who's an artist that I liked before it became popular for seamster conservatives to like her. M.I.A.' 's 2013 single, Bad Girls, which has a story behind the song and the accompanying video. So they did this, and Juan can show you some of it. They did this video where I guess they had the mom from The Incredibles. They used, which was... They used her lyrics and then they were playing M.I.A.' 's Bad Girls at the beginning of this video clip. And they were talking about unmanned flights and it's all the ladies going through. Look, the lady's checking the plane. The lady's here. The lady's dancing. And oh my gosh, I just cannot. No offense, girls, but this does not inspire passenger confidence. And I don't even know if any of these women were the ones that were flying the plane. See, this is so... Okay. Full stop. Full stop. Full stop. We're going to talk about the video in a minute, but why are you making a video about a plane using a song that talks about dying? Like right in the first measure. Why? Why? Why do that? Look, we're going to live fast and die young. Great motto for a plane. Fly with us. We're going to die young. What the hell? What is happening? Who's directing this? Gosh, is it Captain Extensions? I don't know. So... why that's not the best song choice sidebar why they didn't use paper planes i don't know mia sunk paper planes which was made very very famous by danny boyle's film that included uh what was it was like the game show was set in india and i was talking to like the rags to riches getting around the class system all that stuff that actually would have been more appropriate uh but they decided to use this video why did they decide to use mia's 2013 bad girls here's why When that video came out at the time, Saudi Arabia did not allow legally women to drive. Women could not drive very patriarchal society. Women could not like drive. They could not get in a car and drive themselves to a doctor appointment. They couldn't do any of that stuff. So in my age, she got a lot of criticism because they were saying that she was using Arabian stereotypes in her video. And I think that those people are just being stupid and sensitive. Because to say that she's somehow cliche is asinine. But her video was a protest music video against Saudi Arabia's then ban on women driving. And I say then ban because when they got the new king in Saudi Arabia, he changed that. And he does. And now women can drive in Saudi Arabia. But at the time when they were doing this video and it was about basically they had Saudi, presumably Saudi women. It was filmed in Morocco and they were on this like desert dirt track and they were drifting and doing all kinds of tricks and stuff like that. And it was a bunch of Saudi men that were watching these women racing cars and it was supposed to be this, you know, kind of fist in the air. Yeah, well, women, you know, Saudi women can't drive. Here we are. You know, we enjoy this just like anybody else. So it was kind of like a protest video. So hijacking that song. And trying to say that it is a great soundtrack to women in the United States who are free to do whatever they want to do. And actually making what I think is an inherently reverse discriminatory video where you're celebrating women doing basic stuff that doesn't need to be celebrated. And this is one of the things I don't understand about the insipidness of feminism. Basic bitches doing basic stuff. Woo. Why do you have to sit here and celebrate and high five every time you do a basic human activity? Stop it. If you don't want there to be two levels, then stop acting like you're special or than everybody else just because you have a vagina. I'm so done with it. That being said, that was so dumb to use that song because it's not even comparable. Number one. Number two, it is absolutely asinine that you're making a video about flying a plane and you're talking about dying in it. And then several months later, you literally flip a plane out of the sky. I don't know if abroad was flying it or not. I'm just saying it's not a good look. You know, it's not a good look.
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Could have used like what? Another one bites the dust by Queen. Like, is there a worse song they could have used for that?
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I mean, it's like using a Buddy Holly song, you know, while you're making a video about coming and flying with us and you play a Buddy Holly track. You see what I'm saying? It's just... Dumb. And then it makes me question, if you know so little about music, then what else do you not know about? Right? And I just, I don't want, I don't take any of this seriously. When I, if I, look, if I'm getting on a plane and if it's going to be all women, give me a bunch of like all butchy German ladies. Okay? I'm going to trust that more than I will extensions McGee. Does that mean to say, I don't care. I don't care. I'm just going to trust that kind. I'm just, you know. I'm going to trust that more.
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That's that level 11 truth we've been looking for.
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I mean, I can go harder. I mean, I'm so tired of this, like, girl boss, shut up. It's annoying. If you constantly have to tell everybody you're a boss, guess what? You're not. You really aren't. So, I mean, this is like the perfect time to talk about the blackball Jesus female, right? Yeah, let's do it. Cynthia Ervo. I don't know if you all saw this or not. She's going to play, I guess, the titular role of Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar at the Hollywood Bowl. Hollywood Bowl. That's the big amphitheater that they got there. So she's going to be playing Jesus there. I don't know why. I guess they got him. I would think that just putting on anything that has Jesus in it in Hollywood is going to be controversial enough, but they're like, nah, let's take the edge off it. So they have Cynthia Erivo, who is in that musical Wicked, which I think is made entirely of estrogen and collagen. That whole musical is made of those two things. So they are. She's starring as this. And I don't know why they chose to pick her. It's going to be Andrew. It's Andrew Lloyd Webber, Tim Rice's Jesus Christ superstar. She I guess it's it's this summer. She also starred as Mary Magdalene in a different production. That's going to be in August with the Hollywood Bowl. And oh, gosh, it's going to I I'm assuming it's a musical. I know nothing about. But I guess she's playing the blackball Jesus. So I thought, well, you know, we just go all the way. Right. Ask her to play Mohammed and see how well that goes. You know, just just a thought like Cynthia Ervo as Mohammed, you know, just, you know, just could be. But then, you know, if we're going to be doing stuff like this, because I know that the left gets very, very sensitive about it unless they are looking at taking over like traditionally white characters with minority actors or it's never reversed. And I mean, I don't really put a lot of stock into it, except the left freaks out so badly. It's like, imagine, you know, redoing Harriet Tubman, her story, and casting Jesse Plemons as Harriet Tubman. You guys know who Jesse Plemons is? It's Kirsten Dunst's husband. He's a great actor. Or redoing Roots and Chris Hemsworth as Kunta Kinte. Just imagine how well, I mean, right? I mean, we can just take it all over. Or, you know, if maybe you want to get out of U.S., you know, historical recreations, we could go to Samurai and you could, let's do Lady Snowblood. Lady, and I love Samurai films. Lady Snowblood, but starring Chris Pratt. Right? Works, right? Can you believe it?
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It's in line with what they've been doing.
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I mean, there's so many things we could do. Right.
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It opens a lot of doors.
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Yeah, it opens a ton of doors. I'm just tired of the left always going, you know what, let's do something rude about Jesus. That's all they, and every year, or maybe like every three years, they do this. Like no one's had this thought before. What if, now hear me out, we insult Christians. What if we do that? yeah it's a totally original idea and they're all high-fiving each other every three years they do this it was actually trite back when Madonna did it I was in elementary school when she did uh what was the song she did and I remember all the Catholics got mad about it because one of my friends their family was super Catholic she was like one of eleventy kids and uh that was not Madonna was not allowed in their house after that what song was it It wasn't like a virgin. It was the one where she was... They, like, burned crosses in it, and it was nighttime, and she was dark-headed in that video.
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Was that Puppet and Preacher?
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I don't remember. Somebody will tell me. I don't really care. I don't have enough room in my brain to remember all that Trollope's work. Anyway. But you guys know what I mean. Some just, you know... It's just so... Just cliche anymore. We got a lot more to get into. We got to talk about budget. We got to get into all that. More ideas for just, you know, completely offensive castings for other historical... works. All family pharmacy provides the prescriptions you need. And they have a doctor that signs off on the prescriptions, they can send everything out and like what two to four days overnight to they can overnight it if you really need it. But they have customizable orders, they have emergency kits tailored to your needs, and they support your medical independence. So I use them like for instance, over Thanksgiving, I was getting serious sinusitis, and it was turning into strep. And I'm like, I am hosting Thanksgiving. This is insane. and I immediately was on allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. First time I did use Code Dana 10, and I got my 10% discount off my entire order. But you can get, you know, they have tons of different medications. They even have ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine as well, tons of antibiotics, over 200 other drugs. uh essential medications and uh i ordered what i needed like amoxicillin azithromycin and you know that again medical professionals doctors are like this is you know how you take it this is the you know the dosage etc uh but it's simple fast and affordable no insurance no problem the pricing straightforward and and it's all from the usa none of this stuff is input from china It's not outsourced. It's made in the USA, so you can rest easy. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off using promo code Dana. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, promo code Dana10. That gets you 10% off. Don't wait. Put your order in today.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So Montana is looking to ban mRNA shots as vaccine hesitancy soars. And remember, they changed the definition to include mRNA as the quote unquote vaccine for that. So very interesting. Good on Montana for doing this. So this and I think there are other states that are actually entertaining that idea as well within their state. Yeah, Florida did it. But there are several other states that are now considering it, too. A man drives over 700 miles to set fire to the home of a man talking with his ex-girlfriend. Oh, my gosh. Oh man, and it's a Michigan man, not a Florida man. He was arrested and charged with six counts of attempted homicide after driving over 700 miles and setting fire allegedly. To the Pennsylvania home of a man who was communicating with his ex-girlfriend. It happened about 5 a.m. just a few days ago. Police and firefighters responded and they located the residents who evacuated. Two dogs were killed in the fire. That's horrible. It killed their dogs. So I just feel like that guy maybe should get the same punishment that the dogs received at this guy's hand. So they did take him into custody. They also had executed a search warrant at his residence, et cetera, et cetera. So he's the investigation is currently ongoing. But yeah, I think that there needs to be a very I think I support a lethal penalty penalty in that case. That's me. Uh, billionaires are bidding on dinosaur bones as the ultimate status symbol. So see, they're going to be okay. I mean, they can go out and get dinosaur bones. Meanwhile, we're all paying $6 for eggs. Uh, and they're, uh, like that. Apparently T-Rex is having that kind of, those kind of fossilized remnants, all of this stuff, this, um, that's like the new thing to have i guess that's surpassing art but also i don't think it's so much um a trendy thing to own i think they're looking at ways to diversify their money and so they can buy dinosaur bones and then they can have it on loan to museums and it's a tax write-off for them that's how all that stuff works so very interesting so this one guy literally paid six million dollars for 150 million year old stegosaurus like what do you do with that Aside from, you know, try to take a, you know, reduce your tax burden by loaning it out to museums. Maybe that's what we should be doing, you know, just buy dinosaur bones. I'm saying, yeah. We have a lot more on the way, including all of the latest with the budget. Later in the program, Carol Roth will join us as well. Stick with us. From the folks at Caltech who've always been continuing to redefine the game with cutting edge design and performance. So the PR57, which is a 5.7. It's innovative rotary barrel makes it the lightest one on the market. It is 40% lighter than the next five seven. It's amazing. And they do that again with the rotary barrel and then also the unique top loading design. So they replace the traditional magazines with stripper clips. So you have a slimmer carry profile, but you also get a 20 plus one capacity. It's low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. And it's perfect, actually, for everyday carry. It really is. I mean, it's like the 5.7 I could actually conceal carry. And the MSRP, only $399. So it's super affordable. First of its kind from Caltech, the PR57 rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7. Visit caltechweapons.com to learn more. Innovation Performance Caltech. K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Yeah, that's what those ladies make in that video for Delta. They should have used that. They should have used MIA's paper planes. But instead, they decided to use the Bad Girls track, which talked about dying young. And because they thought they didn't really understand the history behind the song or the music video that was supposed to be so controversial back in 2013. Welcome. Bottom of the hour. We're talking about that video that because it all had to do. There's a lot of questions that are surrounding the DEI aspect of. you know, planes, you know, like actual airplanes and whether or not that was, and we don't know because we really don't know anything about the, I don't even know, do we know who was flying the plane in Toronto? There was another crash, a plane crash in Arizona. Let me pull this up. They had, it was on the runway. This is, it seems, I mean, what was Pooh Buttigieg doing this whole time? I thought that he was supposed to be there handling all this. They had two planes that collided at an airport in Arizona just right after the Toronto incident. And there were at least two fatalities that happened this morning. And it was outside of Tucson. Both planes were occupied when they collided. They're still investigating, but they really don't have an idea as to... What they don't have any idea yet. They're still investigating. So the we've got to talk about this. This they apparently doubled down on Zelensky. So Vance also did. So Trump unleashed a really went after. Zelensky. He said that on True Social, he wrote, quote, think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Vladimir Zelensky, talked the United States of America into spending $350 billion to go into a war that couldn't be won, never had to start, but a war that he, without the U.S. and Trump, will never be able to settle. And he said, quote, on top of this, Zelensky admits that half of the money we sent him is missing. He refuses to have elections is very low in Ukrainian polls. And the only thing he was good at was playing Biden like a fiddle. He went on to say that he's a, quote, dictator without elections and that Ukraine's president better move faster. He's not going to have a country left. Dang. But he's not wrong. I mean, they did suspend election. I mean, they did do all of that. That's a very real thing. Vance also doubled down on it, too. And I don't know why people treat Zelensky like he's this precious little sacred cow. I don't get it. And by the way, for the drive-bys that can't entertain two ideas at once in their teeny tiny brontosaurus-sized brains, you can think that Zelensky is a dictator. And also not like Vladimir Putin either and think he's one too. Oh, what? Dana, you mean both of these ideas can exist in my head simultaneously? Yes. Welcome to being an evolved human. Jeez. I hate how I say, I hate when you bring this stuff up. I mean, like Zelensky is a dictator. You say, you know, Zelensky shut down churches and he shut down press offices and everyone's like, why do you like Putin? It's the exact same thing as saying, I really like waffles. And then someone reacting with rage. Why do you hate pancakes? I didn't say anything about pancakes, jack wagon. Talk about waffles. Same thing. I mean, I don't know why people excuse that. Oh, because it's a time of war. That's completely that's an excuse. Stop it. That's an excuse. So Vance also told Zelensky that he shouldn't bad mouth Trump in public. He said, quote, the idea that Zelensky is going to change the president's mind by bad mouthing him in public media. Everyone who knows the president will tell you that is an atrocious way to deal with this administration. That's true. He says the dictator without elections, Zelensky better move faster. He's not going to have a country. That's what Trump had said. And Vance was debating that. I think it's about time that somebody got pretty rough with them. I will never forget the story when they had one of Zelensky's deputies said that, well, the pensions for our people are going to, you know, their government officials are going to run out. The United States doesn't. This was like this is about a year and a half ago when Biden was giving them more billions and they were complaining that it wasn't enough because they had to pay their pensions. Oh, my gosh. Katie, by the door. Yeah, this is they're like they're a bratty, annoying welfare recipient. That's what they're doing right now. Take care of your business. Take care of your backyard and stop demanding the United States wipe your backside every single time you can't manage the deuce you take. I can't. This is we got our own issues here in the United States that we got to deal with. We have our own issues. We can't constantly go over and coddle these countries who would turn around and spit on us. Oh, how dare you? The big bad United States going out nation building. I mean, I grew up hearing this from all of these people. I grew up hearing that all of these leaders from all of these European nations detested the United States. They thought that we were braggarts and that, you know, we we were entitled and, you know, all of this stuff and that we used our wealth to keep everybody in line. But oh, my gosh, somebody over there stubs their toe and they are screaming and crying for the United States to come save them. Every single time. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. Deal with your own stuff. I don't care. It's a land dispute. How does it affect me? Honestly, that's how everybody should be asking. That's not being nationalistic. That's being practical and understanding resources. And I think the people who disagree with that are the people who... I mean, those are probably the people who can't manage their everyday business in their own lives. I don't know how else to analyze it. But I'm so tired of being treated like we owe something to this welfare. We don't. I get it. They're dealing with issues over there. And I'm going to tell you what. One way to not deal with the United States on this is act like we're somehow being cruel because we said enough. When you haven't been transparent with where the money is going and you're telling us that the billions that we've given you, half of it's missing. And then we have people that are with his own actual government, Zelensky's government, that were on record with repeated European media agencies telling them that if the United States didn't pony up more billions, they weren't going to be able to pay the pensions of some of their officials. You're in a war. You don't got time for bitches lunchbox or for for for pensions. You don't have time for this. You're in a war. We're broke. We as a nation are broke. We are getting ready to have the mother of all fights over this budget. You I'm not exaggerating. And for as many times as other people have said this before, this is it. Guys, this is it. This is it. Last chance. No more chances after this. It's over. You got to get a handle on your spending in your budget now or say goodbye. That is not an exaggeration. It's not fear mongering. In fact, it's probably advice that's coming a little too late. So we don't have time. to deal with whiny dictators who are, and he's a dictator. When you're suspending elections, you're shutting down press offices, you're a dictator. Don't act like there's like some kind of, you know, silver lining in any of this. And you can still think this and also not like Vladimir Putin and the communist nation that he pretends isn't communist. It's not like, you know, these things, there's not a scarcity of availability for both of these things to exist in the same place. It's frustrating. And this, I mean, all of it. I mean, I'm just looking at some of the motions. We're going to talk about some of this with Carol Roth coming up next hour because there's, you know, she's been warning about some of the changes for small businesses and they keep kicking the can down the road. We've got this proposal from there was this entrepreneur and I will say Musk didn't say that he was going to do it. He just responded to a Twitter thread where he said, I'll talk to the president about it. And Forbes rushes out with this hysterical headline. Oh, my gosh. Look what Elon Musk is going to send $5,000 to everybody, which I can and I both agree is the dumbest thing we've ever heard. It's so dumb. It's not a it's not a good plan. It was sending out money willy nilly to people has not done anything you need. First off, you know what would be amazing and what would show? They were serious is by making a move to abolish the IRS, cutting spending, reducing all spending levels down to Article 1, Section 8. If it's not included in Article 1, Section 8 under the purview of the federal government, then that responsibility needs to be delegated where it constitutionally belongs. That's with the states. I'm talking about Department of Education, all of it. There is absolutely no constitutional authority to have something like that established in the United States. Any discussion of welfare and protecting the cultural integrity of the United States is very limited when you actually read. The Article 1, when you dive into it, it's very limited in scope. And there's so many things that we are not even allowed to do and that we're doing anyway. It's amazing. You do this. You cut spending. You implement some pretty austere policies. And you can actually put a – you can reverse this pretty quick. And that's the – it seems crazy to say that it could go that fast. But that's only if you have everybody on the same page. And I mean, I don't know if you've been seeing some of the stuff even in the Senate. They're not on the same page. It's a it's a it's a major issue. And they're going to be doing what is it? They're they're Vodapalooza and just proposing amendments beginning tomorrow. And even Trump weighed in on it. You know, Trump was he he kind of kicked Lindsey Graham's. Lindsey Graham has the proposal that wants to increase spending by three hundred and forty five billion. It doesn't include anything. There's nothing in there about taxes. It does absolutely nothing to remedy the expiration of the 2017 tax cuts. It doesn't do anything about that. They said they promised they'd come back later in the year. And they would they would deal with the tax cuts, which, you know, that's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. This is one of the reasons why Trump had to hit the ground. All gas, no brakes and go as fast as he did and overwhelm the left, because here in just a few months, the midterm cycle starts and all of these, you know, amenable. politicians now that are willing to maybe cast some early votes on some of this more austere stuff. They're not going to do that once their cycles kick in and once they start gathering donations and once everything that they do becomes a dossier that's used against them by the left for their seat going into midterm elections. And then if midterms don't do well and Republicans haven't delivered, That that majority is so narrow. Absolutely. They could stand to lose it. They could absolutely lose it just as they could lose it in the Senate. And then you end up having a lame duck president for the remainder of his term. He's not going to accomplish anything. And then his legacy would be completely shot to hell. Good luck getting anyone even adjacent to him in 2028 elected. That is what is at stake. And that's exactly how it's going to play out. And anyone who disregards this is committing, you know, sovereign suicide. I have no idea how else to put it. The fight is now, and this is the most serious fight you are ever going to be in. Guys, we have never, even during the Tea Party days, we have never been so close to actually cutting the size and scope of government and how much government is spending. Cain, I don't think I'm exaggerating in saying that, do you? Even during the Tea Party days, we weren't this close. I mean, these are... Now, we talked about it a lot. And there were some good things that came up in committee. But do you remember, even when they did get a reduction in spending, it was like a reduction in the rate of growth of spending. That's all it was. We never actually achieved cutting spending. They said, well, we're spending the same amount of money slower. And then they classified that as a cut. And then that's what you had to live with. We... We've never been so close. You got to put a little bit extra gas. You got to put a little more pressure on that pedal to get us over the hump. The budget resolution. So you have the committees per the reconciliation instructions. They got to come up with what a minimum of four billion in deficit reduction. And Brian Paul, and it was a procedural vote. He voted against the motion to proceed because he just thinks that the whole bill's trash and he doesn't even want it to progress out of committee. He said that it does not, he said that it doesn't include the deep spending cuts that Trump called for. And he's right. Brian Paul's right. It does not go a quarter of as far as is being recommended by the administration. Cain, say what you just put in Slack, because this is a great point.
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I mean, if a little 2% tax on our tea got us mad enough to create independence in this grand experiment we call the United States of America, then we can do this.
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Yeah. I mean, it is doable, but it's... You remember what happened when Greece had to implement a lot of austerity? Do you remember the riots that they had? Although some of that, I think, was kind of orchestrated by a lot of the leftists in the EU, if I'm being honest. I mean, there were people on the streets, and they ended up having a total regime change because the government was trying to get the nation back on a responsible fiscal path. And a lot of the people in the streets had just been so used to entitlement and big spending and welfare that they rejected it. And it was just a disaster. And that's what Republicans are afraid of. They they don't want the bad press that's going to come along. I mean, think about it. You know, you're up for reelection in a purple territory, purple district, and you voted to abolish the Department of Education so as to send it to the state so that actually parents can better control how their tax dollars are being used and their children are being educated. That seems like a reasonable thing, but that's not how it's messaged by the left and by the media. And Republicans are terrified of that. They've always been scared of their own shadow. Weakness is nauseating. It is one of the biggest deficits of the GOP. Weakness kills countries. It is nauseating. They have got to stop. They have got to get a spine and they've gotta make, they gotta deliver on what voters voted or I promise you after midterms, they're not gonna hold the house. Not gonna happen. History shows gold and silver thrive under strong leadership. During President Trump's first term, gold surged 53% and silver soared 51%. With him back, could precious metals break new records in 2025 and beyond? In times of economic uncertainty, smart investors turn to assets that have proven their worth. Gold and silver have historically outperformed in volatile markets, making them a crucial part of any strategy for preserving and growing wealth. And that's why I trust the partners at GoldCo. Secure your financial future today and don't wait until the next economic crisis happens. GoldCo is a trusted leader in precious metals. And with over $3 billion in gold and silver secured for hardworking Americans, they've been a top-rated company from the start. Take action and partner with a company that puts your security first. Visit danalikesgold.com right now and get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit. On top of that, you could also qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, possibly even more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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We're going to be talking with our friend Carol Roth coming up at the bottom of this third hour. And the sad news today, came about the youngest hostages that Hamas was holding in Gaza. You remember the Bebas family, the mother, Shiri, and then her four-year-old and the nine-month-old baby, Ariel and Kiefer. They were on video being kidnapped by Hamas, and they kind of became the face of the hostages. The baby was the youngest. In fact, I think he was not nine months. I think he was eight months when he was taken. And Israel confirmed this afternoon that they are deceased. And that was the thing that everybody was kind of holding their breath about because you can't really trust Hamas. Hamas has lied so many times before, both ways. They've said someone was deceased and they weren't. They've said someone was alive and they weren't. They've done this tons of times with these hostages. And so they're hoping to release the bodies. They want to release the bodies tomorrow in exchange for living terrorist prisoners that Israel has in their custody. And so they're releasing the bodies. They're not coming home alive. We don't even know if any of the hostages left are alive. I think they're just releasing a bunch of bodies tomorrow. And then they expect their prisoners or not even prisoners, their actual terrorists that were caught in the acts of any act of terrorism. I mean, when you are trying to stab people, blow people up and shoot people because they're Jewish and you're coming from Gaza, you're kind of a terrorist. And when you're taken into custody, you're not a prisoner. You're you are being taken into custody for terrorism. You're a criminal. So it's not even comparable. And the family, uh, I think they're doing this because they want, they, they want tensions to cool so they get their people back alive. So they're, they're tomorrow, apparently four bodies, uh, including, uh, an elderly man who's been, who was killed in Hamas's captivity are going to be released. And Hamas says it'll, yeah, it's going to give their, give their, their, their bodies back. And, uh, I'm just disgusted and shocked. I mean, it is a, you know, they're little kids. This was the youngest of all of the, and nobody knows exactly how, because Hamas has changed their story a million times. The two boys, they would be five and two now. They were the youngest and they were the only children that Hamas would not release after they briefly back in November of last 23, when they released some. And they at first they were saying that, oh, it was an Israeli blitz on Gaza and that's what killed them. But and then they kept changing their story. Oh, no, they were changing on when it happened and then when it Hamas killed them. So they said that they're going to release six living hostages on Saturday and they're going to release the bodies of four tomorrow. And then they have to undergo identification before they're actually named. But Israel confirmed that it looks like they are deceased. I think what's also deceased is Hamas' goal for Gaza to be a state. I think this two-state solution is also deceased. Israel should resume the strip and turn it to glass. That's it. That's the solution. Hamas is a duly elected governing body of Gaza, and they are super popular. And it wasn't just, I hate this idea from people, who don't have familiarity with how, I guess, Hamas operates or how Gaza is run. But when these people were held hostage, they weren't held in like an official Hamas prison. Hamas doesn't have like uniforms and stuff like that. I mean, that's one of the, that's part of why they're so insidious. They are insidious. They're everywhere. They were held in random people's homes. who were rejoicing in their misfortunes and their torture and their physical struggle after so long being in captivity. You know, the women have been repeatedly raped throughout captivity. They've been tortured. I mean, you've seen people when they are alive and they're released, they look like they're walking out of a concentration camp. They torture them right up until they have no physical custody of them anymore. But you can't have a two state solution with an entity that is a terrorist and you can't have a two state solution with people who vote for terrorists. Oh, don't think that that's like a made-up thing from Hamas either. Agence France-Presse, Reuters, a million different entities have all gone in. In fact, the popularity for Hamas was so great that they pretty much run West Bank too. The idea that FATA runs West Bank is just an optic. Hamas was so popular, they were besting FATA in every poll, and they were going to run both territories. That's a fact. So please stop with the whole, oh, but not every, this is geopolitics. And you're talking about an entity that since it was given like a welfare recipient, a strip of land fully furnished, all they have done is murder and chaos, murder and chaos, murder and chaos, kill, kill, kill. It's all they've done the entire time. Anybody asking for any of Gaza's neighbors to continue putting up with this for this BS optic of peace are contributing to murder. You're culpable. This two-state solution is dead. Israel needs to take back its land, and if anybody's got a problem, turn it to glass. done with it. Anybody that goes out and just enjoys kidnapping women and babies, killing babies the way that they do, these Nazis in Gaza, no. There's no moral defense of it. And Israel, Israel should kill every single prisoner that they have in custody from Gaza. That's what I would do. Go full on flat tapish with these people. Done. Done with it. Because brutes only understand brutality. For every one person of ours you kill, we will kill 100 of yours. That should be the response. For the weak people who love getting people killed because of their cowardice, stay out of the discussion. Because that kind of weakness has led to this perpetuation of death. You think that you can coddle murderers and terrorists. You think that you can satisfy them. They're never satisfied. So Israel should pop every single prisoner that they've got because they're all terrorists anyway. Take care of every single prisoner and just do an air dump right in the center of Gaza. And if anybody's got a problem with it, turn them to glass. This has gone on way too long. I can't even believe we're entertaining anything other than that response. It's pure weakness. And it perpetuates the cycle of death. So, yeah, I think that the prisoners should be, that were engaging in acts of terrorism, they should meet the same fate that that sweet baby met. Now, This couple of things to get into because we've been talking about the budget. We're going to be talking with my friend Carol Roth. here coming up about this proposal. First, we got to talk about some of the savings being recommended by Doge. And then this Forbes piece that again, and I set this up and I'm so because the narrative is just out there of Elon Musk saying, well, let's send everybody $5,000. It's not going to actually really work. He didn't say that either. He merely responded to somebody. But That's not doable. And this Senate bill is not doable either. We're going to talk about that, and we're also going to talk about some of the stuff that small business is dealing with as a result of some of this, all of it. Can we talk about this Kristi Noem thing? I wanted to touch on this, too. Kristi Noem posted yesterday a video where she's announcing, I guess, that she wants to do an ad campaign about the border. and about deportations. She said she's announcing a nationwide international multi-million dollar ad campaign warning illegal aliens to leave our country now or face deportation with the inability to return to the U.S. It serves as a strong warning to criminal illegal aliens to not come to America. This is her post on X. And if they do, they will be hunted down and deported. And so she posted this yesterday. And I have to tell you, I think that that's a stupid idea. First and foremost, we don't need a multi-million dollar ad campaign. We're trying to save money. What the hell? What you have to do is actually apprehend people and then deport them. And you don't have to incentivize them, their recidivism, by making it seem like you're going to keep the door open for them to come back. You either leave of your own volition or you're going to be deported. That's it. And you can't tell me people aren't aware of that right now. I mean, this is so goofy. Stop campaigning and taking pictures of stuff. Just do the damn job. You don't need an ad campaign. I mean, I don't understand why we have to spend multi-million dollars on this. This is literally exactly what we're raging against in terms of government. And this is one of the reasons why I wasn't a fan of her being at DHS. I mean, I think Tom Holman's doing an amazing job. But this? An ad campaign? You want to spend millions of dollars that we don't have on an ad campaign? Just deport them. FFS. I'm not being mean, Cain, correct?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, I think earned media is the way to go. Like you said, every time they have a major apprehension or an operation that's successfully executed, literally go on the media, go on news, tell them about your successes and your plans going forward. This is how you do it. That's how the illegals or potential illegals are going to know not to show up.
SPEAKER 08 :
I feel like she's making it about her. I'm not a fan of Noam. Because I know how she governed and I know how she was in the House when she was in Congress. She was a very moderate candidate. She was not MAGA. And she was actually thwarted by her own more conservative party. state legislature when she was governor because she was trying to shut her state down and she also didn't defend women in sports i had her on air to talk about that she got hit by everybody on that and she's been trying to rewrite history because she really wanted to be vp um that's why she had the glow up and the extensions and all that stuff i'm not like you know knocking it i'm just saying there was a glow up um This is not this is exactly why I was very apprehensive on her being in this position. I love Tom Holman. And I, you know, I and I think actually Pam Bondi, you know, I have issues on two way with her, but she's doing a fabulous job. But for this, you're going to do an ad campaign? No. You know the ASMR thing that we played yesterday when they were talking about it? That was actually smart. I don't know if that was Noam's idea or not, but that was actually, you just do that and put it up online. You don't need to have a multi-million dollar ad campaign. You deport people, take some video, you put it up on social media, boom, there's your earned media. Because we don't have the budget for this right now. This is not what we want to see. We want to see deportations and apprehensions. Record that, put it online, earned media. That stuff goes viral. But I don't need, you know, the professional lights and the full on makeup and the ad campaign about I don't need any of that, nor does any other voter just deport them. Stop. I've seen the amazing changes Relief Factor has made for so many people, and I've seen it firsthand through my husband Chris's pain relief from using Relief Factor. Right now, it's easy to give their product a try because Relief Factor makes it pain-free with their three-week quick start for just $19.95. Get rid of pain and start living better. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, it works by supporting your body's response to inflammation. It doesn't just mask pain for a short time. It helps reduce or even eliminate it. It's safe to take daily, and in fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective. Whether it's neck, back, joint, or muscle pain, Relief Factor can help. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Give Relief Factor a try. With their pain-free trial, you can get a 3-week quick start for only $19.95, less than $1 a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. With their pain-free trial, you can get a three-week quick start for only $19.95. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF or visit relieffactor.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, first, we've got Carol Roth coming up after headlines today. The What? A Caledonia area daycare apparently got in trouble for using melatonin spray, and they are promising parents that it won't be used again. What in the world? So they say that parents are upset after this daycare center in Michigan sprayed kids' sleeping mats with melatonin without their knowledge. Yeah, you can't be doing that kind of stuff. That's goofy. They said they used Dr. Teal's sleep spray with melatonin and essential oils. Some of that stuff smells like liquidized hippie. Stop it. Nobody wants to smell like a dirty armpit. Nobody wants their kids to lay down on a cot or a mat that smells like that. And they said that it's not been approved by FDA, like that matters, for using by kids. Don't be spraying stuff on other people's kids where they sleep. Stop it. Just do your damn jobs. You know, tire the kids out with activities and they'll take naps without having to use a sleep aid. Idiots. A... Wow. What is this headline? Okay. A restaurant called... It's actually called Chubby Chicks? Yes. In Philadelphia, a restaurant called Chubby Chicks is... The business owner is claiming she's being bullied by people who are not happy that she's there. They said it's a very fancy restaurant. We don't want our fancy area. We don't want a place called Chubby Chicks there. What... What does Chubby Chicks do? Because the article does not say literally anything about it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I'm like... I envision large portions.
SPEAKER 08 :
What?
SPEAKER 04 :
Large portions. That's it? That's what the restaurant does.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's all it is? Well, what's wrong with that?
SPEAKER 04 :
I envision that. I don't really know. Because like you said, it's not in the article.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I mean, like what... I'm going to look this up. What is with the... I mean, if that's all it is, then why is that... a big deal if it's just larger portions.
SPEAKER 04 :
I guess they hate the name.
SPEAKER 08 :
So yeah, they don't like the name. And the restaurants, there's one publication that said they're dividing the neighborhood with upset patrons. I don't even, good grief. If it's not like a strip club of fat chicks, then what's the problem? You know what I'm saying? That's what I first honestly thought it was going to be. And I'm like, why do I care? I don't know. We got Carol Roth coming up. Don't go anywhere.
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SPEAKER 09 :
80% of the Doge money saved needs to go to paying down the national debt. And the other 20% needs to go right back to the same people who sent it to DC in the first place. Taxpayers like you and me. Doge is set to save $2 trillion over the next two years. There are 78 million taxpaying households in America. That means that $25,000 per household is what's being saved today. Oh, why are we doing this again? Okay, first off, as I was telling everybody, I was going to throw my, can I just go yeet myself off my roof?
SPEAKER 08 :
So this Elon Musk responded to a tweet that had and this is James Fishback. He's an entrepreneur investor guy. Elon Musk had responded to a tweet that this that was discussing this guy. And he said, I'll talk to the president about it. And then it became this big piece over at Forbes. But still, I don't even want anybody to talk to POTUS about this. I don't want him talking to POTUS about it. This is so stupid. No. And you don't have to take my word for it. We brought on a real life expert who can do math and knows money. And she's pretty and smart. And her name is Carol Roth. And she's my friend. And she has a book called You Will Own Nothing, Your War with the New Financial World Order and How to Fight Back. Oh, my gosh. Carol, save us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, here's the last thing you wanna do is tell President Trump that he could stick his name on a check that's gonna be sent out to everybody in America or even just the taxpayers. Cuz there's nothing that Donald Trump loves more than sticking his name on a check and giving that back to you. However, we're in a little bit of a financial problem here. We are running wartime deficits. 7% of GDP, about $2 trillion. We have an emerging market debt load of 120 plus percent to GDP. So yes, we want Doge to save us money. We want to root out the fraud. We want to root out the waste. But that's not your money. That's the money they put on the credit card on your behalf. So even if they save, let's say $500 million a year, which would be incredible, 25% of this extra $2 trillion deficit. That still leaves us a trillion and a half deficit. So where is that money coming from to send out checks that are then going to stimulate the economy and cause inflation? I remember when everybody didn't like the Biden inflation from the Biden stimulus checks that stimulated the economy. I remember when everybody knew economics because we shouldn't cancel student loans. But now all of a sudden, it's a dose check. Well, now I'm a smart conservative and I love this idea. Please, please people have some principles, have some common sense. Yes, it's frustrating to see all of this waste and fraud, but we want to eliminate it so we can get back on track. We don't want to create new problems. This is what people voted for.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's exactly what we voted for. And I mean, I think it's why my heart stopped when I first saw this, because just to your point, All the STEMI checks, that was bad. Because there was no waste, fraud, and abuse with any of that. No waste, fraud, and abuse with all the COVID checks that went out. I mean, it was all above board, Carol. All the money was spent responsibly, and we could track all of it. STEMI checks are bad, okay? My my other and I and I, I understand, you know, I understand the suggestion. I'm fine with the speculation, but I just I agree with you. And I'm so glad that you put it. You articulated it as succinctly as you did on on X, because it's just a bad idea. The other thing that makes me nervous is because I know we have the amendment palooza and the voting and all of this stuff with the budget. That's kind of gay. The fight's just starting. We're all like the fight was. No, no, it's just starting now. That begins tomorrow because we have that Senate bill. And to doge to the point of doge in their cuts, they can recommend this stuff. But unless the Republicans in Congress actually adopt it and implement it, there is no point. I mean, I wanted to kind of get your your take on that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I do think that there is a point because I think there are things that are under different people's purviews. And I'm certainly not an expert when it comes to who can green light something from Congress and who can stop something. But just in general, we know that under the executive branch's purview is a bunch of bureaucracy and a bunch of things that they control directly. that they should be able to cut down on and put programs in place and identify fraud and abuse. But yes, at the end of the day, who really controls the purse strings on an ongoing basis that is creating this problem and has created this problem is Congress. And if they don't create a solution that really does attack these deficits and attacks them, by the way, Dana, in a very smart way, because I've talked to you before about this at a little bit on a high level. But we have, because of our fiscal situation and the mess that the Biden administration left us, we have what I'm calling these trip wires all over the plates. The debt, the deficit, the strength of the US dollar, the 10-year yields, all of these different things that when you start moving one piece of the puzzle, it could trip something somewhere else. And we're at such a in such a precarious situation that that could create an issue that ends up causing a death spiral or actually expands the deficit so we have to cut the deficit spending but remember the deficit spending has also been propping up our gdp So we have to cut regulation and we have to supercharge growth at the same time because if we just make these cuts, which we all want and we desperately need and we don't do something to have growth, well, then we're going to actually end up with a bigger deficit for a while.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's the problem. And that's why this $5,000 stuff, it's not that's not really good. It's like having a it's like being in debt half a million dollars and then saying, I'm going to get rid of my Amazon Prime subscription. That's going to save money. OK, I did it. Let's go to the casinos. That's not really not really not really going to work. I wanted to get to the the small business because there's an issue that you've been really sounding the alarm about before. But really quickly with the I watched or I saw a post that Trump had. Post tweet. I don't even know what to call it anymore. It was on true social and reposted to X where he was talking. It kind of he kind of hit Lindsey Graham and his bill because the one of the bills that they were that Rand Paul voted against in committee was this bill, Carol, that it was looking at. an increase in $345 billion increase in spending, but they weren't going to touch any of the expiration on the 2017 tax cuts. So there's not really a reduction in spending. They weren't actually looking at reducing the tax cuts. And Lindsey Graham and the others were saying, well, we'll come back to that later in the year and look at it, you know, after midterms start when they're probably going to be like less amenable to doing this. Can we economically even wait that long to deal with that? Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, and I think that people need to remember that the tax collection piece is sort of its own animal and the spending piece is its own animal. And people like to conflate the two. On the tax cut piece, we want people to hold more of their money and invest that productively and grow the GDP in the private sector instead of the, in the fourth quarter, almost $6 that it took for a $1 increase in the gdp from the government sector that's what we want to have happen and letting people keep their money actually brings in more tax revenue we've seen this tax revenue collections after the the tax cuts and jobs act have increased we're at almost five trillion dollars a year which is more than the entire gdp of every country in the world except for the us and china so you know having a tax policy that's smart and letting the private sector grow will, even though the numbers might look like, oh, you're keeping more of your money, but it grows things, the pie increases and you actually collect more revenue. So that's a good thing. And that's separate from the spending piece and, oh, we're spending more than it is that we're taking in. And unfortunately, again, because everybody is economically and financially illiterate, they like to conflate the two. We're just gonna cut taxes and how are we gonna pay for that? Well, again, in cutting taxes, you are getting more revenue. So the question is, how are you going to keep your spending down so that the $5 trillion, which is plenty of money for the government can spend, that you're only spending that much or less, that is completely. separate and should be a separate discussion but does need to be happen at the same time so that everybody knows what's going on because the challenge for all of us is uncertainty how do small businesses big businesses individuals make investments if we don't know what the tax policy is going to be from a day-to-day basis if everything keeps changing if we have no certainty So certainty is a good thing. We need to know the rules of the game we're playing. And we want those rules to be fair and to be appreciative of what the American people are doing and not abusive, which is what the government has been doing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. For those watching, if you're watching on the simulcast or listening, talking to our friend Carol Roth. I love it. She calls herself a recovering investment banker. She also speaking of small business, you were instrumental in raising the alarm about the corporate crisis. transparency act beneficial ownership information the the reporting requirement for small business and i i know i had sent this out in our newsletter the thread that you had that was back in march uh when you walked through for people who were unfamiliar with it it's you know how it was like a mass data collection initiative and you were really educating everyone about it and i know that there's been uh new there have been updates on this story there was an extension but you're but not It's not good enough. And that's one of the things you noted. Tell us the latest about this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so this is so frustrating because we have an administration that says we are pro-entrepreneurs and small business. We've heard it from Trump. We've heard it from the Secretary of the Treasury, everybody. We are anti-regulation. So why do we have a rule that is forcing small businesses with entities? And by the way, also housing association boards and their members and a bunch of other people are getting caught up in it. But of course, not big businesses. But these small businesses to register with the Financial Crimes Division of the Treasury. Important information, private information, driver's license or passport, other information. And if you don't do it, you can get thrown in jail. You can get a penalty of up to almost $600 a day now. This is not what small businesses need. So this is the easiest win for Congress. for the Trump administration, for the Treasury. And what happened? The Treasury appealed the injunction that was in place that said that we didn't have to file. And the court has granted that injunction be stayed or lifted or overturned. And basically that means that for FinCEN's website today, we now again are on the clock. March 21st, again, is the filing deadline that if you don't put in that information, and by the way, if you don't update it every time it changes, you can be on the hook for jail time and fines and all this stuff. And this is freaking out small businesses. People wanna close their small businesses. People don't wanna start small businesses. It's the exact opposite of everything that everyone is standing for right now. So we need everyone's voices. There are bills that are in the House and in the Senate. The Repealing Big Brother Overreach Act has a ton of co-sponsors in both places. We need them to repeal this. We need the Trump administration to come out and say, hey, our treasury is not gonna do this. We're just gonna blow this whole thing up because Trump vetoed this the first time and Congress overrode the veto. So we know he doesn't even like this to begin with. It's so easy and this is so frustrating and we're hearing all these other silly things that everybody else is focused on when this is a real issue for not a small number of folks. This is 35 million small businesses plus everybody who is a meaningful decision maker for them plus the housing association boards. Get this done once and for all. Give entrepreneurs the certainty. Show them that you have their back and you're going to remove the barriers so that we can grow the economy and the GDP and do those things to make America great again.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's so well put. This is why you need to be advising the administration. You need to be out there instead of some of these other folks. They need Carol Roth. Carol Roth, you can find her on X at Carol J.S. Roth. And of course, you can also get her book as well. Bestselling author. Find her at carolroth.com. She's got a newsletter out there. You've got all kinds of stuff. You are one of the smartest people ever. economically finance the whole nine yards. I look to you every day when this stuff breaks. So I appreciate you coming on with me. So last minute to talk about all of this stuff. Grateful for your insight. Carol, always a pleasure, my friend.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you. And thanks for giving a platform. It's so important that you open up so that we can educate people. So really appreciate everything you do. Keep killing it, my friend.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, my friend. Educating me too. Carol Roth, everybody. Thank you, Carol. So good to see you.
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Make sure you also sign up over at Substack, Chapter and Verse. A lot of good stuff that goes out there regularly. You know, we've got prep. There are a couple of other pieces that are going to be going out here soon. So it's good for folks to go sign up. And of course, Facebook as well as YouTube. Oh, I mean, we have a lot of really good audio today that I did not go to because I wouldn't shut up. This... I... Listen, this is Audio Sunbite 19. I want you to listen to this. This is from Whoopi Goldberg. And this is about the Toronto plane crash and her trying to go after sect of transportation, Duffy. You can't say sect trans like you can't sect Duffy. It sounds bad. Listen.
SPEAKER 12 :
I have been panicking over all this insanity with these planes. Yeah. You know, and there's all kinds of stuff going on. So let's start with the string of mass firings by Elon Musk's dog. Doggy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Doggy. Doggy. Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 12 :
Doggy. has sparked a lot of chaos, confusion, and fear because Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy is defending the firing of 400 FAA workers.
SPEAKER 08 :
And as we know, those workers had nothing to do with air traffic control or security. Any of that. A lot of it was redundancy, and they couldn't even define why. This is... Just, I just want to pull my hair out when I hear this stuff. I mean, when did Duffy, and I'm trying to think while I'm talking, when did Duffy, wasn't he just confirmed like last week? A little more than a week ago, yeah. Okay, so, and again, the firings have not even been fully implemented yet. They are mainly like just recommendations at this point. And it was only, I think with the IRS, it was like temp workers and some of these other agencies. It was people who haven't even been there for a year. We're going to talk more about this tomorrow, but I'm so tired of this. They're still running defense for the previous admin. Today's stupidity came.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it actually plays in line with what you're talking about. Lisa Murkowski was talking about Doge.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is it Dogey? Is it Dogey?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh my God, it's annoying as hell. But apparently they're saying Doge doesn't demonstrate much due process. Is Doge doing the firing or are they just doing the discovering? Because I think it's just the discovery. Listen to this. Got 27.
SPEAKER 10 :
It doesn't demonstrate much due process. Even more to it, it doesn't show respect for those who...
SPEAKER 04 :
We're on a fact-finding mission. We're not on a respect-finding mission. We need facts so that the administration can make the right decisions, and that is to cut the waste, fraud, and abuse. Stop it already.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. Folks, that does it for us today. I hope you have a great rest of your evening. Find us Facebook, YouTube, like, and subscribe. Substack, chapter, and verse. I'll be back behind the mic with you tomorrow.
In this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast, hosts Neil Boron, Bob Duco, and John Rush delve into the week’s most riveting topics, ranging from the frightening reality of recent jet crashes to the satirical reflections on today's politics presented by Saturday Night Live. Through a biblical lens, they uncover the layers of hysteria, media spin, and political biases that often cloud truth and justice. The hosts share their insights on the miraculous survival of passengers from a Delta flight crash, speculating on pilot error and natural occurrences. They shift focus to political debates, questioning the motives behind certain politicians and dissecting claims surrounding President Trump during his tenure. They further explore the concept of DEI in the aviation industry and its implications on safety standards. Listeners will also find enlightening conversations about the power of light therapy, as discussed with their sponsors SunPower LED and Preborn. Discover how light therapy is making waves in pain management and overall health improvements, offering hope to many around the world.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast with the guys, of course, John Rush, Neil Boron, myself, Bob Duco. Hey, guys, how are you? Great, Bob, thanks. Great. Well, that's good. That's good. We got a lot of things we're going to be talking about this week. We're going to talk about these jet crashes, Tom Hanks on Saturday Night Live, Doge, and even some stuff about theology and politics and Rick Warren and such. But let me start with these jet crashes, though. First of all, that insane image. I don't know if you guys have seen the video of that Delta flight. It had 80 people on board. that it lands who in the world thinks when you're on a plane and you're coming in for a landing and you feel touchdown as soon as you feel the wheels hit who in the world thinks that five seconds later you're going to be upside down sliding in the plane but my goodness that's what what it's really remarkable and neil let me start with you it's really remarkable that nobody was killed in that but it's you know it's a little bit scary to think about something like that and the wings bust off the plane and it's just upside down and then of course we had that horrible crash a couple weeks ago where the helicopter uh hit the plane as well over the potomac but you know i don't i'm just kind of curious your thought and reaction to when you see stuff like this
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm serious. It makes me think twice about flying. I will fly again.
SPEAKER 02 :
I will fly again. Even though statistics are very, very much on our side.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but we've all seen the videos of the kid on the roller coaster that goes flying off. I mean, I just think about these things. I fly, and I will fly, but it's in the back of my mind. Anyway, I... It's interesting because I live not that far from Pearson Airport in Toronto, and we have a good portion of our listening audience. In fact, the majority of our listening audience is in the Toronto area. So I'm passing Pearson a lot. It's a huge airport. It's not nearly as big as Denver. John and I were talking about that before the podcast here. But I'm pretty sure I've actually stood in the spot where one of those videos was taken from because I'm one of these guys that loves to hang out. near airports and near the Welland Canal, watching huge ships come in. And I loved watching these massive airplanes from all over the world. I mean, Pearson Airport is an international airport to the fullest extent. So you get planes coming in from everywhere. That was a relatively small plane. And, you know, what a miracle. 80 people on board, 76 passengers, four flight attendants, or four, you know, crew. And And they all survived. 21 were taken to hospitals, and as of this morning, 19 have been released. The child that was injured is going to be okay, they say. So God willing, everybody survived. I mean, where do you ever see that? But it struck me when I was looking at it, and this is why I brought up the fact that I think I've been in that exact spot. Now, they have multiple runways, so I can't be sure. But there's one runway where you can literally get a coffee at Tim Hortons or Dunkin' Donuts and then walk a few hundred feet. And stand there as planes come in over your head, and they feel like they're going to land on your head. They're probably still at 150, 200 feet at that point, but it's a pretty intimidating feeling to watch them come in over your head. But then they cruise out over the runway for a while, like a quarter mile, half a mile out onto the runway before they touch down. This plane seemed to come down really fast. And I'm not an expert, and I'm not claiming that I know what happened, but it looks to me like the plane landed short of the runway. Like the reason that there was such a bounce, Almost like if you were going to pull in your driveway and you had a few drinks too many and you missed the driveway and hit the curb. I mean, it would be the same effect. Like, okay, eventually you ended up on your property, but it wasn't the right way to get there. I wonder if it just... Quit describing John's every Friday night.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I'm talking about the days pre-Jesus, whatever. But you get the point. I've never seen anything like that, how it bounced and flipped. By the way, only one wing came off, which is why I don't think it kept spinning. It flipped over but then stayed upside down because the other wing kept it in place, like a kickstand. I mean, it was miraculous. It couldn't have been a gust of wind.
SPEAKER 02 :
They said there were 20 to 30 miles and 40-mile gusts.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and that could have been, though, why it could have been like a wind shear thing that pushed it to the ground before it really got all the way to the runway kind of thing. I don't know. We'll see. But the wind definitely played a factor.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. John, I'm just kind of curious your take on that, which, by the way, also, John, one of the things that the passengers did, even though they were instructed, hurry up and get off the plane, a bunch of the passengers were like, no, I'm getting my baggage out. I'm getting my stuff. And so, of course, you're not reaching up for it. Now you're reaching down for it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's on the floor, so it's pretty easy at that point.
SPEAKER 02 :
I know. It's on the floor. So I've got to be honest with you. I'd be one of those guys who'd be like, no, I'm getting my carry-on luggage. That's right. Pulling it out on the wheels out of the plane.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, that part's pretty funny. I mean, I'm like Neil. I am not an airline pilot. I know a lot of guys that are, talked to a lot of folks that are and so on, but have literally zero experience on that end, but did a lot of reading. Last couple days, and again, not a pilot, but the first video I saw, I'm like, okay, wait a minute, timeout. This thing looks like they, you know, typically there's kind of a flare. You bring the nose up. You kind of start to touch down softly. They look to me like I just slammed this thing into the ground like I was landing the stinking plane because I've never flown before. I mean, literally, you look at it, and it's like, wait a minute. That is, to me, procedurally speaking... I think lots of mistakes made on that end of things, and personally, now, one thing I do know is snow, because it's one of my businesses, and we have a lot of it in Colorado, you guys do as well as where you're at, and what I could kind of see was, yes, there was some wind shear, but when they got down on the ground, you kind of got to wonder, were there, because, you know, to Neil's point, maybe they didn't hit in exactly the right spot, did they have too much snow accumulation in that particular area when they landed, did that affect its stability some way? You combine all of that with a really harsh landing, the nose doesn't come down last like it should, you're not flaring up like you should, you're landing in snowpack now, you're probably landing hard enough that the stinking thing exploded when it landed on the ground. I mean, all of that tells me somebody screwed up. Yeah, I know. That's my take on it. To me, it's not a plane malfunction. To me, again, we'll know as Neil said as time goes by, but to me it looks like total pilot error.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it probably is. We'll have to wait and see. Which, by the way, let me get a little bit political here for just a moment. What is it about Democrats that they can't win a fight based on the actual facts or truth? They have to exaggerate or make up lies about their political opponents. And a perfect example of this is Eric Swalwell. The January 6th impeachment sham trial against Donald Trump after Trump left office, was the impeachment manager in this case, would repeatedly lie going on TV, just making up stuff that wasn't true. Well, sure enough, here's what he does. He takes this plane crash and adds the tragedy of the Potomac River crash as well. and uses it to trash Donald Trump. And it tries to say that Donald Trump is responsible for this. He actually said these plane crashes are Donald Trump's fault. And then he said there have been, his words, no president in history, in U.S. history, no president has had more plane crash in their first month in office than Donald Trump. So in U.S. history, so I'm thinking to myself, how far back in history do we have to go to find it? Well, you can't go back before the 1900s because, you know, obviously there weren't planes back then. So I'm like, okay, well, could this maybe be debunked? Were there more planes crashing in the first 30 days of FDR? Or maybe Calvin Coolidge, okay? No, guess how far back we have to go to debunk this? All the way back to Joe Biden. Because if you look at the National Transportation Safety Board, Here's what we see. Their exact numbers are, okay, in Donald Trump's first 30 days in the White House, there were 12 plane crashes that involved injuries or deaths and then 35 total. These would be little single-engine planes where nobody was injured, okay? Thirty-five total, 12 of them involving injuries or death. With Joe Biden in his first 30 days, there were double, 24 plane crashes involving injuries or death. And total wasn't 35. It was 55. So I look at stuff like this. I'm like, come on. And then you had other Democrats going, well, look at Donald Trump. What he's doing with the FAA. Whatever. You know, the FAA here, as far as as far as a Toronto crash. Yeah. Guess what? That's Canada's air traffic control in charge of that anyway. So I'm really curious to get you guys take on this, John. I'm going to come to you in just a second. But before I want to take a moment right now. And remind our listeners that we have sponsors to this podcast, and we very much appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We do. Certainly SunPowerLED, which you're going to hear about in just a moment, which is just a phenomenal organization. And Preborn. Now, many of you listening to me right now, you've already given a pre-born, and we thank you for that. What you're doing is you're saving babies' lives. You're saving babies' lives by showing ultrasound images of unborn babies to expectant moms. But you don't have to do the work. Pre-born does the work in pro-life centers. All you need to do is pay for it. It takes money to pay for these ultrasound images. When a mom sees a picture of her baby, she chooses life. It's really that simple. She usually accepts Jesus Christ, too, as Savior. We just don't have enough ultrasound machines and enough ultrasound images being paid for. And that's where you folks come in, all right? $15,000 will buy an ultrasound machine. If you can spend 15 grand, it's a nice tax write-off for you. Your forever legacy is you're stopping thousands and thousands of abortions year after year after year. Think about that, okay? Now, if you can't afford to do that, pay for an individual number of ultrasound images. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, to save one baby's life. So how many abortions will you stop? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, that's your forever legacy. Maybe that's your 2025 number. But would you do this right now? You know, 100% of what you give to pre-born goes to the ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. Overhead's covered by private donations. You don't have to worry about that at all. So here's how you give. Go online right now to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. Or they answer the phones 24-7. So you can call right now, 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. And we appreciate you supporting our sponsors. We appreciate you supporting us.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and this last one, especially being in Canada, it's like, okay, he's in charge of now what happens around the world, not just in the US. I mean, nothing could be a dumber statement ever. In fact, even trying to pin the last one on him, given that it's in another country. Granted, it's Canada, but still, it's Canada. It's not the US. He's not in charge of the entire world. And frankly, this whole idea that That, you know, it has something to do with what he's done inside of the FAA is also ludicrous. The one thing, and again, I always want to double check, so I don't want to say this is the way it is because we don't know yet. We don't have all the facts yet. We don't know exactly who the pilots were and so on. But I had an inside source yesterday that's in that industry. that somehow or another there were some pictures released that these were definitely two DEI hires. Again, whether that's the case or not, who knows? I have no idea. Delta did have, though, a big, huge push for DEI hiring not that long ago. By the way, guys, whether it is or isn't, this is what these companies don't understand. whether it is a DEI hire or not, when you give this perception that we're basing our pilot hiring off of the color of your skin, age, other things along those lines that have nothing to do with your ability to actually fly the plane, these are the sorts of rumors that happen after something like this takes place, guys.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. That's right. Neil, I think he makes a very fair point. And that is one of the big problems with. You know what, Neil, if if I were a minority, if I were an African-American, OK, or, you know, a female or, you know, I don't know. gay or whatever the case may be. I would hate the cloud of suspicion that would be over any accomplishments that I did because everybody would be looking at me out of the corner of the eye going, is this guy really the best doctor? Is this guy really the best engineer? Is he really the best pilot? Or does he just check the right boxes as far as some kind of ethnic group or whatever like that? To me, it puts a cloud of of suspicion over the qualifications over people that may be minority or maybe female or even maybe gay or whatever. And I just don't understand why people don't realize the insult and the patronizing insult that DEI hiring really does produce.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I think people need to understand the motivation behind even talking about such things. Because, I mean, if you think about World War II, the Tuskegee Airmen, right? I mean, they were a highly trained flying outfit that really helped swing the tide of the war. These were all black pilots, highly skilled, highly trained. It has nothing to do with skin color, but the point is... If in this day and age you hire people simply because of their skin color, not their actual qualifications to operate a commercial aircraft, well, then you've got a real problem on your hands. I do have to say, and I'm just speaking from my own heart, we mentioned Swalwell, and he made these outrageous statements. It turns out Joe Biden had more plane crashes during his first month. By the way, the crash over the Potomac, the flight that... you know, that killed, I think, 67 people and crashed with the Army helicopter. That was the first commercial aircraft, because you're right, there have been a lot of other plane crashes, but commercial aircraft, it was the first one since 2009 when a plane crashed here in Buffalo, New York. We were actually doing a WDCX event, and we were in the flight path. That thing crashed about a mile and a half from the church where we were with, you've probably all heard of... Nick Vujicic. Nick Vujicic was in town. He's got no arms and no legs. He was doing an evangelistic event. And that plane crash happened that night while we were in that church building. It was an unbelievable thing. So the point is, it was 16 years between commercial airline tragedies, and that's a really long time. I just don't understand why Donald Trump, as soon as the thing happened in Washington, D.C., immediately mentioned DEI as opposed to saying... hey, let's pray for the families, let's pray for those affected, and then maybe bring it up in the next couple of days because it is something to look at. Maybe it really is an issue. I just don't agree with the timing, however. Yeah, I mean, this absolutely needs to be looked at. If the quality of people operating commercial aircraft has been diminished in some capacity because of DEI hires rather than actual ability, absolutely needs to be looked at because human lives are at stake.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. Let's shift over to, did either one of you guys watch some, any, or all of the 50th anniversary of Saturday Night Live on Sunday night, I think it was. Did you guys watch any of it? No, I saw a million commercials.
SPEAKER 03 :
I didn't watch it. I did watch the episode. I watched the segment, though, with Tom Hanks, which I know we're going to talk about. But no, I didn't see the whole thing.
SPEAKER 02 :
There was a time when it was funny. And there was certainly the original crowd back in the 70s. And you had some talent come on. You know, Eddie Murphy, when he remembered how to be funny and such. And so there was certainly some talent. I don't think it's watchable now. I don't think it's been watchable for a long time. But I have to say, I just I decided, all right, I'm going to watch a little bit of it. I recorded. I watched a little bit of it. And at the beginning, I'm thinking, OK, well, this kind of iconic. I see Paul Simon out there and, you know, and I see some of these old, old school actors in SNL that are there now. And so it's OK. It's interesting. But then, my goodness, here we go again. The Tom Hanks skit where they do this skit called Black Jeopardy where the host and the players are all black. But then afterward, they bring in Tom Hanks to play some typical Trump supporter. He's wearing a MAGA hat. He's dressed like a slob. He talks like a hick. And he's basically a dumb hick guy who says, you know what this country needs? People need to go to church. And then the black host comes over to say, hey, I agree with you, and try to shake his hand. And then Tom Hanks is like, whoa, whoa, back up. A black man's approaching me. He must be trying to rob me. He doesn't want to shake his hand. And I'm just like, come on. John, actually, I'm curious to get your take on this first. It seems like there's got to be some blowback from independent swing voters and possibly even some moderate Democrats to say, you know something, enough is enough. This is what James Carville is basically. James Carville and Bill Maher are actually people that are saying, enough of this already. Quit calling more than half the country a bunch of racist rubes.
SPEAKER 04 :
I didn't watch the SNL stuff, but it's funny you said that. I did watch the response that Carville and some of the others had, I don't know why, just happened to be flipping through something and happened to notice Carville on, I think they had him on Fox News or something, and he was speaking along those exact lines of what you're talking about, Bob. And he's like, guys, we already lost. Are we going to keep, I'm paraphrasing, but are we going to keep losing by going down these same paths over and over again? Because here's the bottom line, it's not working.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
For him to say that, Bob says something.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. I know. Yeah, Neil. I was going to say it's not working. And, you know, Donald Trump won in 2016 to the shock of everybody, especially Hillary Clinton. 2020, he had more blacks voting for him than in 2016, 2024 more than in 2020. He had gains in every county in the United States of America and huge gains amongst minority voters. So like the bottom line is it's not working. And if that's all you've got to, you know, to refer to to try to get people to believe that somehow anybody that would support conservative values is a is a racist rube. then it really says very little for your own position on things because you obviously don't have any realistic arguments to raise that are going to actually sway voters. Apparently you're just taking swipes and jabs at people because you're upset you're not in power. I mean, I don't see any other reason for it except just sour grapes. I mean, it was ridiculous what happened.
SPEAKER 02 :
And you know what? That's actually a very important point that you make, Neal, that if you have to make up and exaggerate and create false caricatures of your political opponents then that just shows you how weak your own position is because if trump okay if trump were really as bad as everybody on the left acts like he is they should be able to quote him accurately they should be able to if trump's supporters are really these horrible people in america you should be able to portray them accurately and score points but they know they can't on the left You know, the only thing they can do is create false narratives, because if they tried to have a fair fight on the actual evidence itself, nobody's going to get persuaded by it. So they just keep telling these lies and it's it's it's coming out eventually. It really is.
SPEAKER 03 :
But and again, the bottom line, real quick, about 30 seconds. But just real quick, I mean, the bottom line is that the black voters. essentially don't agree with that skit. So, you know, I don't know who they were trying to convince or what point they were trying to make, but they're completely out of touch with reality, presenting it that way.
SPEAKER 02 :
One of the things I would encourage you to do, watch the skit again, and notice the reaction of the audience, because the audience... Weren't rank and file, you know, Democrat voters. The audience were a bunch of liberal Hollywood elitists. And it was nervous laughter at best because I think even they realized, OK, they were having a little bit of the James Carville kind of this isn't smart, guys. So you would have thought there would have been bigger laughter from the audience than there actually really was. We've got a lot more we're going to be talking about in the second half of this podcast. Right now, though, I do want to remind everybody, if you haven't given to Preborn yet, please do that now. Maybe you gave last year. And 2025 is a new year. Would you give something again now? What we're talking about doing is saving babies' lives. Saving babies' lives by paying for ultrasound images. Ultrasound images save babies' lives, plain and simple. So you can do this one of two ways. On a smaller scale, you can pay for an individual number of ultrasound images. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, to convince one mother to let her baby live.
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Continue in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with Neil Boron. Neil Boron live out of Buffalo, New York. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. And in this second half, we're going to... Well, first, let's talk about Doge. Before we get into the Rick Warren stuff, it is... Guys, it is amazing. Neil, the things that they are uncovering, that Elon Musk and such is uncovering... With with wasteful spending is incredible. But, you know, what's interesting also, I love, Neil, how this White House fights back with their own fact checking. Caroline Leavitt put out this video saying, oh, by the way, here's Barack Obama and Joe Biden, both of them talking about how important it is to go through every page of government spending and look for wasteful spending that we can clean up or whatever. And as she pointed out, she said, you know what the difference is? They made those promises and they didn't do it. Donald Trump made those promises and he's doing that. And now they're acting all shocked on the left. Stop it. It's really incredible that the scraping of the the walls of the barrel that's being done right now by by this department.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I don't know if you guys saw the video of Elizabeth Warren, who's Native American. Oh, wait, no, she isn't.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm sorry, I've got to say this real quick. I think I told you guys this before, but I've had such fun with the whole Elizabeth Warren thing, because as you know, when she got genetically tested, it turns out that she had a smaller amount of Native American blood in her genes than your average American. white American does, because everybody has a little trace of something. We go back to the, really to Noah's Ark. Everybody's got a little trace of different ethnic groups in them, but she had less than your average. I actually happened to be 1 8th Cherokee. My mother was 1 4th Cherokee. My grandmother was 1 half. And so you need to be 1 16th to be part of Cherokee Nation. So technically, guys, I could be playing the I'm a minority card, you know, kind of thing. Oh, and by the way, so I have a right to say it's the Washington Redskins, okay? And I'm not offended by that. But anyway, so... I throw that out there real quick. But yeah, Elizabeth Warren, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, just it's in line with what you're saying about, you know, Barack Obama and the Biden administration, etc. But Elizabeth Warren in this one particular video and many years ago, she looks much younger is saying, look, when very calmly, when that much money disappears. It's usually because somebody broke some laws somewhere. But if we don't ask, if we don't uncover it, if we don't make it all public, we'll never find out. And then they cut to a video of her recently, like last week or something. And she's in the Chuck Schumer reap the whirlwind, you know, kind of voice. And she's saying, we're here to fight power. What is she fighting back? She's fighting back against the fact that somebody turned the lights on and now the cockroaches are scattering. They're getting to the bottom line that, okay, so I guarantee there's always been waste in the federal government, pork projects and other things. It's always been there. But then you attach corruption to it. And the – I guess I'm looking for the word – determined effort of the federal government to fund DEI projects in other parts of the world, $2 million for sex changes and LGBTQ activism in Guatemala, $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt. What? If you ask the average American person, would you pay – would you help – can you give $100 to help support transgender opera in Colombia? Would you do that? No. I think that most people are going to go, hit the road, Jack. I'm not interested in funding that.
SPEAKER 02 :
By the way, how about sex change surgery on animals? You do know they're doing sex change surgery on animals? Oh, thank God. I'm so excited to hear that. That is unbelievable. You know what I think needs to happen, though?
SPEAKER 03 :
I really think that there needs to be some published work about what's been uncovered or a major press conference where there's charts and graphs saying, look, here's what we uncovered. I agree. I agree.
SPEAKER 02 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because this is all flying by so fast that we're missing the impact. They've already uncovered like $55 billion in a month, and it'll get to the trillion mark in the not-too-distant future. But I just think the American people, it's happening so quickly. They need to really be able to absorb just how magnanimous this whole fraud and deception thing has been in our federal government.
SPEAKER 02 :
John, I'll bet you he is speaking your language large because I know you're a big proponent of Republicans doing a better job of simply clarifying a message to people. I think Neil's absolutely right. It is time right now for the White House to put together some kind of basic simplified chart that has different categories. In this category, here's what we have eliminated away so far. In this category, create a bunch of different subcategories. have 15, 20 bullet points in each subcategory and put them out there and keep updating that every three or four days.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and they are, just most people probably don't know about this, and maybe they need to be more, how should I say this, more pertinent, more purposeful in letting people know they can go to doge.gov, so doge.gov, and literally, guys, I'm looking at it right now, everything you're talking about, there's literally the... first post today, because it's coming through X, but the first post today is literally, Bob, a spreadsheet of what you're talking about. So they are. They're just not doing a very good job, I don't think, of pushing people there. Yeah, I'm looking at it too. With that being said, I also think, to give them a little bit of grace here, there is so much they're doing every day and uncovering so much that I will be honest with you guys, it really is hard to keep up with everything they're in covering everything they're doing i'm guessing when they get to a point where things maybe get a little bit more static i would venture to guess they will do this now i will say this all of news media at the left of course you guys are talking about just going crazy over this which is like okay when you're crazy going crazy because somebody's auditing you what does that tell the american public by the way that middle of the road voters and those that are on the right not the far left because the far left a bunch of loons anyways but those are in the middle And on the far right, they're like, wait a minute, isn't this what we hired this guy to come in and do in the first place? And you can say President Musk all you want. You can make fun of all these guys. You can try to drum up as many excuses as you want as to why they shouldn't be doing what they're doing. But the reality is they are. They're uncovering mass abuse, mass fraud, mass kickbacks. I mean, the list goes on, guys. I'm here to tell you, when this is all said and done, And this is my prediction. If this continues to go this direction, the left had better make some really big plans on how to win in 2026, or you're going to see a lot of current senators and congressmen and women without jobs.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right. And by the way, while we're at it, Neil, you know that according to the U.S. Census Bureau, there's about 80,000 Americans that are 100 or above, about 80,000. However, DOGE is uncovered in the Social Security Administration database, over 20 million Americans. people in the social security database over 100 over 20 million including 1.9 million in their 150s and even some in their 360s i kid you not there are people you know some methuselahs apparent but but when you have millions and millions of people in their 130s 140s 150s and even up into the 300s and they're in the database right now when we know there's only 80 000 americans over over 100 And that tells me there's there's some serious fraud, some serious waste that's going on right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Huge. And, you know, I was a little concerned at first because John mentioned the midterms. I've got the midterms in the back of my mind. You know, we lost the House two years into the first Trump presidency. And I would love to see him hang on to the House and the Senate, maybe even gain seats. so that we can do even more of this kind of thing but i was like why is it why are we moving so fast and on the other hand i was thinking about the show hoarders you know and if you ever watch that show in some cases it just gets so bad that there's a need for a bring a bulldozer and let's have a massive intervention there is no you know we'll take out a few dishes today or a couple of you know stacks of newspapers like let's just blow this house up it absolutely needs to be fixed And and I think that the American people are OK to absorb and believe that and settle in that reality if we can, because some of these people 30 days ago were believing that the federal government would never do this kind of stuff like they wouldn't hide billions. They wouldn't have, you know, hundreds of thousands of people that are 150 years old on the Social Security list. But that's the truth, and they need time to absorb it. So I don't know. I really think this could be huge for conservatives down the road, and I think the American taxpayer is really going to get involved. Let me tell you, though, about SunPower LED. Can I just talk about that for a second? Yeah, please. Because, you know, there's a lot. I mean, people have mistrusted SunPower. government and not really known what to believe. And I think especially during COVID, people had crazy ideas about what to believe and not to believe. And now the House came out with that post-COVID report that said, hey, guess what? All the stuff you assumed, like maybe that vaccines weren't as good for you as you had thought, or that masks, you know, we were told they work, but they actually didn't. Well, guess what? You were right. They didn't really work. That all of this mistrust is leading people to ask questions like, what can we believe in? What is real? And something I can tell you about that's 100% real is the light God himself created. God said, let there be light, and there was. And buried within light are certain wavelengths of red and near-infrared light that can penetrate the human body, get deep into the cell, excite the mitochondria in our cells to do what the cells were created to do, and that's to heal the human body. And so light therapy, what's called photobiomodulation, is being used to alleviate back and neck pain and knee pain and tinnitus and vision problems epilepsy and seizures recovery from wound care hey if you've got a distrust of what big pharma has been telling you you need to learn about sun power led and there's videos there's information available by going to crawfordmediagroup.net just click on it and explore SunPowerLED, that's like sun in the sky, S-U-N. SunPowerLED at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. And I thank God, Bob, that they're one of our sponsors along with folks like Preborn.
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SPEAKER 03 :
So you're saying Paul Revere is still collecting government benefits?
SPEAKER 02 :
He's still collecting. I know. You know what? Look, there's going to be some, John, there's going to be some glitches. I get it. But, John, no, this is crazy. I mean, people in their 200s, people as high as the 300s or so, I mean, there comes a point where it's like, I know that some of this is just going to be glitches. Okay, fine. The legitimate Social Security recipients and their age is entered wrong. But you know there's a bunch of people out there that are collecting Social Security checks from grandma who's been dead for 50 years.
SPEAKER 04 :
Bob, just like there's a lot of people that are on SNAP and other type of assistance programs, Section 8, I can go down the list of things to where they either, A, shouldn't be on it, they're working the system, they're working around the system. I mean, there's so many ways, and you see even videos where these people, believe it or not, brag about the things that they actually do in regards to some of these things. It's like, okay. At some point in time, and I get it, you're never going to be 100% foolproof. You're never going to catch every single one of these individuals, Bob, just like you don't catch every shoplifter in a shopping mall. But the reality is you've got to minimize it as much as you possibly can.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. So let's, in the last little bit of our podcast, I want to shift over to something that Rick Warren said. We all know Rick Warren, of course, Saddleback Church, California, Purpose Driven Life, bestselling author. And I know that Rick Warren is extremely popular. I get that. There are some issues that I have certainly had with him over the years.
SPEAKER 04 :
Unfortunately, you're correct, Bob. He is, and I'm not sure he should be.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm not sure he should be either. But, you know, one of the things, anytime they get involved in politics, and Rick Warren obviously taking a swipe at Christians who tend to be politically conservative or siding with Donald Trump or whatever, he doesn't want to come out and say, hey, Christian, stop voting Republican. He doesn't want to say that. But what he does do is he puts out a picture. It's a meme picture of Jesus on the cross with the two thieves on either side of him. And he says, when you look at all the partisan bickering going on these days, notice Jesus was in the middle of two thieves. He wouldn't have been on either side. That's his way of saying, look, he's not saying to liberal leftists, hey, stop, you know, Christians, stop aligning with the left wing. He's basically taking a swipe at conservatives who are aligning on the right side of this. And I think to myself, and Neil, maybe I can take it over to you, certainly theologically and such, because I know you're very deep in this area. I have never claimed Jesus would be a Republican. No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Jesus, sitting there looking at the two sides politically in America, like you're looking at a tennis match, and looking at one side who is trying to push abortion through all nine months of pregnancy, looking at one side who's trying to gender confuse our children and sexually mutilate in surgery our children that are gender confused, looking at that same side who's trying to censor and silence Christians in the public square and trying to throw Christians and pro-lifers in prison, and then look at the other side, who is not perfect, but is fighting against that agenda, trying to save babies' lives, trying to protect children that are gender-confused, trying to protect God in the public square, and that Jesus would look back and forth, back and forth, throw up his hands and go, Oh, I don't know. I just can't. I can't decide. I don't think there's either one of these two sides. It's two equal sides of the same evil coin. I'm just not seeing that, Neil, not with the kind of stuff that the Democrat Party is supporting today. I just wish Rick Warren would keep his mouth shut about things like this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I don't know what the motivation was, but I was told, I'm not on X, but that he removed the post. I think he saw how foolish it was. But, you know, this isn't just a swing and a miss. This is a total strikeout. He got tossed from the game as well. The ump threw him out. I mean, like, this is just absolute obliteration of Scripture to try to imply what we all believe he was trying to imply. Now, on the other hand, let me just say one thing. The real story behind what happened with the thieves on the cross really wasn't about one of them being right and the other one being wrong. Actually, they were both guilty. You can read about it in Matthew 27. They were both guilty and both deserving of death.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just one of them came around.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and yet didn't come around politically. Came around in terms of spiritual depravity and realized, look it, I'm a broken individual. I need Jesus. So what he was actually just doing was admitting his need for Jesus. There was nothing right about anything except the fact that he realized he was broken. That was it. And I think that's a picture of where we all need to be. We're all lost. John 3.18 will tell you, you know, all of us, if we have not believed in Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, we're lost, separated from him. We stand condemned already. Condemned already, yeah. So, I mean, the reality is—and there's another subtle message I think is important to say here just because we're talking about it. You know, Jesus was very clear that all of us need to deal with the log that's in our own eye. And maybe we should all look at that thief that was on the cross who saw his sin and his need for Jesus and turned to him and repented, that each one of us, no matter where we are in our journey with Christ, need Jesus. And so in churches, let me just say, I think it's important to add that in churches, just because maybe a church is basically conservative and most of the people vote Republican, that there aren't issues to deal with like gossip or lukewarmness or sexual abuse in the church or something else. There are real issues to be dealt with in churches, and no church is righter than the next on those issues. All of us need Jesus. But the whole idea that he would make the implication that a political stance— And take this middle-of-the-road, wishy-washy kind of thing. Nobody's as far right as you conservatives, and you should probably come over here to the middle because Jesus would be right here in the middle. It's absolutely ridiculous. It was ill-advised. It was short-sighted, and I think he regrets it, which is why he took the post down. Just absolutely nonsense.
SPEAKER 02 :
John, what's your take about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Can't argue anything Neil just said. And yeah, I mean, reality is he was taking something that at the time it happened, Jesus on the cross between two thieves, by the way, he took something that had nothing to do with politics at all. And if somebody wants to correct me and can find scripture that would say so, be my guest, because I've never seen it that way. He was basically talking about, to Neil's point, two lost individuals that needed him, which one was going to come with him, not right versus left, politically speaking. Again, and by the way, guys, not to get off on a tangent, but there's so many things anymore that... that Rick has gotten off track on. And you always wonder, why do these guys get off track in that way? Because at one point in time, I think Rick had all of the right motives and was doing things the right way and so on. And somewhere along the line, he got too big for his britches, call it whatever you want, but got off track. And the reality is, no offense, guys, I wouldn't listen to a word he says today.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, I hate to say it, but, well, you know what, there's a sense of trying to create a feel-good Christianity that tends to be all about me also. And one of those examples is the He Gets Us campaign. I don't know about you guys, but that campaign makes my eye twitch. They ran that commercial again during the Super Bowl. Nobody is saying that we shouldn't be out there and helping the poor and caring for people and eradicating things like racism. And, you know, all that is positive fruit that should be produced. But this is fruit that's produced after your first and foremost acceptance of Jesus Christ. It's about him, not about the good deeds that we may do. Those good deeds need to happen, but they're an extension of our faith in him. Right. Yeah, and, you know, John, we really do have this bag. We talked about the thieves on the cross, okay? The thief on the cross didn't look down and say, you know something, this Jesus next to me, he gets me. He gets me right where I am, okay?
SPEAKER 04 :
And the reality is, Bob, he does, but the way it's being presented... is it's done in a non-accountability type of a fashion.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's about me and my life focus. Correct. Jesus is going to come to wherever I am, whatever my feelings are, whatever my desires are. And, I mean, he does meet us where we are. I get all of that.
SPEAKER 01 :
He does.
SPEAKER 02 :
But it's not... He does. But it's not... He doesn't... It's not my life. Everything is about me and my life, and God conforms to whatever makes me happier because he gets me. I'm the best me I can be. And it's just... We're so... That's the... Neil, I got to tell you, that's the idolatry of today. It really is. The idolatry of today is the image in the mirror. It's everything is about me. He gets us. No, no, no, no, no. How about we get him? Less of me, more of him. I think I've heard that somewhere, Neil.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and he doesn't conform himself to each one of us. We're to be conformed to his image. And ultimately, and both of you are right, Jesus meets us where we're at. I mean, he meets us at that place where we're in sin, we're broken. He shows up and he says, I've got a better way. And he invites us to follow him in the process. you know, we experience decisions that need to be made about saying, you're Lord, I'm not, I'm following you, I'm going to follow what you have for me. And he says, okay, good, then die to yourself. Surrender, be transformed. There's nothing about Jesus is just going to hug you and embrace you and tell you that you're wonderful in your sin. No, he came to set us free from sin and to transform us into his image. So the whole premise of the He Gets Us campaign in that sense is off base. If by chance... I mean, this is the reason why people serve coffee in the lobby at church and maybe a croissant or a bagel or something, is that, you know, it's attractive. And so in one sense, we want to be attractive. Jesus didn't walk up to the woman at the well and punch her in the face. He engaged her in conversation. He loved on her where she was at, but he got right to the heart of the matter, that she didn't have one husband who wasn't her husband. She had several. And, like, you know— dealt with her sin and her brokenness that's who jesus is he loves us enough to transform us and if the he gets us campaign stops short of that then it's not doing its job ultimately maybe it's going to point some people towards jesus and they can learn about who he really is by reading the bible but right now that he gets his campaign isn't accomplishing that
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The stock market is alive with activity, and there's plenty to discuss. From the changing dynamics in big tech and biotech to the surprising shifts in consumer and transportation stocks, this episode provides incisive commentary and actionable insights for investors. Discover why EVs are struggling to hold their resale value and explore the broader economic factors influencing today’s investment decisions. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just getting started, Bill Gundersen offers clarity and context to current events shaping the financial world.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Tuesday, Wednesday. It's Wednesday, February the 19th, and this is the Best Stocks Now show. And we are live on this Wednesday morning. The market's dead, though. Oh, gosh. It's all red on my screen right now. I don't think there's any one factor. Interest rates up a little bit. The Dow down 139 today. We're at 44,416. The NASDAQ is down 90, however, a little worse. That's almost a half a percent. The S&P, which hit a new all-time high yesterday, so I don't want to hear too much whining and complaining out there about the markets. The S&P is down 17 today. after hitting a new all-time high yesterday. The Russell 2000 is down 15 points. The small caps, that's 66 basis points to the downside. And the 10-year is up a couple of basis points. It was up 6 yesterday, so we've got a little drift higher in interest rates. I can't really point my finger at anything there. The 10-year is at 4.56 right now. uh now it's up one basis point today but it was up six or seven i think yesterday crude oil is 7289 that's uh remaining pretty steady gold however it continues to close in on 3000 gold is at 2956 and is it just me or have you noticed that bitcoin has just lost all of its momentum recently 95,865. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, and I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And the market seems to be kind of reading the headlines these days, about 9 out of 10 think the market's overpriced. Maybe they're reading my newsletter. That's just a statistic. It's just a number that you have to deal with and you have to take into account. You know, the long-time forward PE average is up, well, the average right now is at almost 22.4, and we've averaged more in the 18 to 19 area over time. So that's a fact. And there's nothing we can do about that. One of two things have to happen, one of three things. The market has to say phooey on the forward P.E. and keep trading at a high P.E., which it has been doing now for about a year. Or earnings have to really blast off, which would lower that forward P.E. And the third one is the most distasteful one of all, Barry. as a chartered financial analyst, how can we get that P.E. down?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, if price comes down, that's the fastest way to get it there. Put it that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and we could do the math. You know, what it would take, would it take a 15% drop in the S&P 500 to get back to that 18-19 area? I don't think it's going to go back to the 18-19 area anytime soon. But I could see it going back to the 21 area, all right, which would be about a 4% or 5% drop from where we are now. But, you know, it leaves us without much of a catalyst. We did have a big stock report last night, a big AI stock, Arista Networks. It was initially up. There seems to be a pattern here recently. Then as the day progresses, it kind of gets worse. ANET, Arista, which I thought had a pretty good report, maybe a little light on the forward guidance. Arista is now down 7.9% on the day. And, you know, these stocks, this has been one of the best performers over the last several years, which make them vulnerable to any kind of, you know, inkling that growth is slowing down. And I think that's what you're seeing here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Could be an entry point opportunity.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, I look at it. I don't like a chart that's lost all of its momentum. But I will be looking at it. I don't know about today, but maybe in the next few days, maybe an entry point. And I'll wait to see the new numbers, where they come in at. So gold yesterday, all-time high. S&P 500 yesterday, all-time high. The 10-year was up seven basis points yesterday. And I will say the other trend that is a little bit on the disturbing side, the leadership stocks. amazon netflix tesla you know call it the big seven google microsoft they're all weak they're all weak right now the charts are very very weak now Having said that, okay, since 2009, every time there's weakness in big tech, guess what? It comes back and hits new all-time highs. There hasn't been a case yet, except for the case 2020. Yes, the first three or four months of 2020. But it came back from that, hit new highs. And then you had in 2021, 2022 was a bad year for the market. That's when the Fed was really ramping up interest rates. And then the NASDAQ was down almost 25%, 30% that year. But what happened? Big tech came back to hit new all-time highs. So, you know, while I don't like it, I hate to see momentum disappear from the tech sector, from the NASDAQ. But, you know, it comes and goes, and it's always come back to hit new highs eventually. So S&P 500 ends yesterday at a record high as the overvalued stock market dashed up in the last minutes of trade. We actually had a pretty good day yesterday. The market was up like 12 basis points. We were up 51 basis points yesterday. But then today, we're down more than the S&P 500 because of ANET, which we own in the premier growth portfolio and the ultra-growth portfolio. And it is one of our largest positions. It's become that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's grown its way into it. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
I've never intended it to be that way, but you know what? I mean, they are a very important cog in the wheel of AI, especially as it relates to the data centers.
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Well, you know, it's been in the – I was looking, actually, just because I knew the earnings were coming up. It's been in ultra-growth almost going on two years now, I believe, is when we first added a position there. Yeah, well, we have huge gains. So we added it in 2023. We also hold it in premier growth, just not quite as long as two years there.
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Yes. Well, Sheryl Crow is going to send her car back. She drives a Tesla back to Elon Musk because she's not happy with his Doge project. Elon did score a victory yesterday against the state attorney generals. They sought to block access. to block access for him getting into these federal agencies. It's pretty disturbing, the things that have been turned up. I want a full examination of those federal agencies. And, I mean, he seems to be the guy that's finally... You know, if you're going to tell me that the politicians should be doing it, how many years have they had to do it, Barry? I mean, we've gone into the tank by $37 trillion, and they've done nothing. And now we're finding 224-year-olds getting Social Security. I've got to believe there's some data entry errors, you know, bad data. what do they say a garbage in garbage out they probably put a birthday wrong or something on these people data entry is not the funnest thing and it sounds like the the government systems are all very very antiquated which is kind of silly you know uh They're probably still feeding those. You remember the cards, the punch cards that they fed into those IBM?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yes. We met with somebody who helped use that technology very early on. It was fascinating.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. So Doge continues their work. And, you know, Social Security, obviously, they're turning up stuff and everything. You've got them turning up a lot of stuff. And, of course, they shut down, basically. Not Farm Aid, but what's it, World Aid? USA, USAID, totally shut down. And now you've got Kennedy. Our Bobby Kennedy, Jr. met with the HHS staff yesterday. And they're going to focus. They're going to study. They want studies on childhood vaccines and psychiatric drugs. I knew a few guys like that back in high school in the mid-'70s that had taken some kind of psyche at those Led Zeppelin concerts, let me tell you. Now we're taking Zepp bound, right? Wednesday, it's Wednesday. Etsy has reported we're going to get, let's see, we've already had analog devices, which is pretty important, some like Conductor Company. We'll see how they checked in. Carvana, after the closes, which has been a premier company A momentum stock. I never thought I'd see a used car delivery vending machine company as a momentum stock. And then tomorrow we get Alibaba. And I will say that the Chinese stocks are doing better than ours right now, actually. The China 50 is up 15% so far this year. Walmart's going to report tomorrow. That's a big one. Booking Holdings is a very big one, one of the great stocks of all time. Okay, when we come back, we've got news on Yum. We've got news on Google, Nikola, Tesla, and many others. BWX Technologies. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Kentucky Fried Chicken is moving their headquarters to Plano, Texas. Well, okay. I've actually been to the colonel's home. When my father and I, we went to the Kentucky Derby back in the early 70s. We saw Unbridled win the Derby that year in the mud. And I don't know, one of the places on our tour, we had some kind of tour that we were on, right? And they took us to the Colonel's house for Kentucky Fried Chicken, the mansion.
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Original recipe.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, you know, look, you could have taken the little package you get and just dump it onto a china plate. I mean, it was a little better presentation like that, but it's basically the same food they serve. The only thing we didn't do was drive through. We sat down and were served and had silverware and everything. It was kind of cool. But you know what? Everybody's going to end up in Plano, Texas. I mean, all these companies are moving to either Austin or Plano.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, tax standpoint makes sense. Some of these companies are moving there because it potentially makes sense from a power standpoint. But I had a colleague who was in his office. He was from Kentucky, and he was what's known as a Kentucky colonel, how you become a Kentucky colonel. Have no idea. But he had a thing on his wall when it was, you know, Kentucky Colonel. I always remember that from KFC.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, no, my dad, my father loved Kentucky. He loved the Derby and other things about Kentucky. Google to pay $326 million to settle a tax case in Italy. Okay, this just comes along with this whole regulation business. Europe, it's a cottage industry to find something that one of the big tech companies has done wrong and find them. This goes back to 2015, Barry. It covers sanctions, penalties, and interest. So anyways, write the check, get them off your back. That's kind of what has to happen over there. Electric truck maker Nicola files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. You know, when I saw the CEO Trevor Milton being interviewed on TV by Jim Cramer, I said, this guy is a con artist, total con artist. And sure enough, I mean, he sold out. I mean, he sold out for like $200 million, but I think he ended up having to give a lot of it back, serve prison time. A lot of his assets were garnered. I mean, it was not pretty. But the company did last a long time. They're finally filing for bankruptcy. I saw their plant one time I was in Phoenix, maybe several years ago. I drove driving down the street and I go, there's the Nicola plant right there. The Nicola Headquarters. It's not a happy place right now. And of course, Nicola was the first name of Tesla. And so he took a lot of liberty and he supposedly had a big truck that would all be running on Nicola. And a lot of it was a sham, and there was some truth to it and all kinds of things. Tesla's EV plans for India are starting to ramp up. You know, he needs something for the cars now that Sheryl Crow has sent hers back. You know, the EVs, you know, I have a – it has not been a good experience for – you know, my wife and I got an all-electric Mercedes EV recently. Now, the weight of that thing is incredible, and the tires are very expensive. This thing's got 24,000 miles on it. We've replaced five tires. that have either gotten nails in them. Now, that's not the worst part, okay? Listen to me carefully here. A SUV Mercedes all-electric is going to run you, you know, it's not cheap. It's not cheap. It's, you know, up around $100,000. And we've got 24,000 miles on ours. And you know what it's worth today, Barry? Take a guess. In the secondary market.
SPEAKER 1 :
$32,000.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can you believe that?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's amazing. There's no market.
SPEAKER 04 :
The resale value. It's horrible. Nobody wants them, okay? So I'm just warning you before you go out. You're going to have one for a while. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to sell it for that kind of money. I'm going to have it. It's a hedge against gas prices, and it's nice to plug it in. It's got 400 miles worth of range, and it's nice. I mean, a lot of creature comforts and everything, but to take that kind of a hit... That just shows you the state of the EV industry in America. I mean, that's like putting $100,000 in a stock, right? And it's worth $32,000 two years later. That ain't a good thing. So anyways, that's our experience. I would never do it again myself. Okay, BWX Technologies. Why is this important? BWX is a pretty big player in nuclear. And they win a $2.1 billion contract for U.S. naval nuclear reactor components. And believe it or not, I mean, the submarines, the Columbia and the Virginia-class submarines, as well as the Ford-class aircraft carriers, et cetera, they all run on nuclear reactors on board the ship. And you're even starting to see them show up, obviously, in the big freighters, the big container ships.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, there was a car, we know we're talking about the Daytona 500, there was a car in the, the one that actually ended up going upside down at one point was the BuildSubmarines.com. Really? So, which I haven't looked into, BuildSubmarines, but it seems pretty specific.
SPEAKER 04 :
But he ended up upside down.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's not good.
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But I wouldn't want him building my submarine. BWX is one to keep an eye on. BWXT, it's a $9.9 billion company out of Lynchburg, Virginia, right there in the heart of government contractor land and all of that going on. So anyways, that's one to keep an eye on. Anglo Gold, AU, reports earnings. We've got several companies reporting earnings. You know, the gold stocks just have not been good investments over the years. And AU, which is out of South Africa, would be a good example of that. We went through Barrick Gold, which is probably the blue chip of gold stocks, I think, last week. And we went through the five, the ten-year performance. And AU has been about the same. AU, which obviously is the... What do you call that? The...
SPEAKER 03 :
The periodic table.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, the AU is gold. Because I remember when Barry Goldwater ran for president. The bumper sticker was AUH20. Do you remember that? You're probably too young to remember that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm a little too young for that one, but that's pretty clever. I'm not sure if folks will understand those signs.
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And they actually came up with a carbonated drink like Mountain Dew, green can. I bet that's worth a lot of money today if you've got some. And it was called AUH20, and it was a green can with gold lettering on it. It was quite pretty. Okay, so AU over the last 10 years, 11% per year. I would say this about AU. If you're going to own a gold stock, it's probably been the best performer over the years. It's a South African $12.5 billion company, but not a good report. It's down 7%. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersenCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air And we'll be back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, the Dow's down 120. The NASDAQ's down 60. It has improved a little bit. The best charts I've seen so far, you know, I still am impressed by Boeing. They've come swooping in. The institutions have absolutely, they feel like Boeing has turned the corner. And that's a pretty perky little chart there on Boeing. The earnings are pretty hard to figure out, you know. That's very dicey at best. But Boeing has a very, very good chart right now, I might say. And the Chinese stocks also very, very good looking. Okay, we've got to talk about Arista Networks here. which is in the news today, let's first take a look. Let's put everything in perspective here. Everybody calm down. It's down, what, 8% or something like that today. But let's take a look at what it's done and why it has been a best stock now. Over the last 10 years, Arista is one of the top stocks of the last 10 years. It's probably in the top 10, maybe. I'd have to look at my little screen, but an investment in Arista 10 years ago, 10 years ago. has averaged 39.7% per year. Okay, so that's just if you take the price of the stock 10 years ago, where it's at today, you apply a compound annual growth rate formula to it, it comes up with 39.67. Wouldn't it be nice if every year it went up 39.67? No. Okay, some years it's up 100. Some years it's down 30. It's all over the place. And in fact, if we go to the 2022 year, which was kind of rough on the NASDAQ stocks, it was down 15.6. So it actually did pretty well that year. The S&P was down 18, so it held up well. In 2023, it was up 94%. Last year, it was up 87%. And now this year... It's down a little bit. Over the last five years, it's delivered an average of 51% per year. And over the last three years, 53%. And over the last 12 months, 67%. Now, the momentum has come out of it. I don't think it's anything specific to the company. I think, you know, just like the momentum came out of NVIDIA, the momentum came out of a lot of these big... The fervor, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you're going to have, when you look at whether you're looking at... Any type of momentum or technical indicators, I mean, you can't keep up. There's no way to really keep up that momentum. These things have been so strong for so long. Like I said, we've owned that position for almost two years now in some form or fashion.
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I would say that there is a trend in the market right now of rotation out of the big seven because they've had two really good years in a row, 23 and 24, and they're searching for other areas. Yeah, I mean, it's up to you. I mean, there's obviously money going into Boeing. There's money going into United Healthcare. There's money going into some of the oil industry. Baker Hughes has been looking real good recently. But for the future, we have to look for the valuation, okay? And from my point of view, I see current earnings of $2.90 next year. An 18% growth rate is the expectation going forward, which I think is probably pretty fair. And a pay ratio right now of 2.1, which is not all that bad, really. And I see 103% upside potential. So you're missing two, actually, of the three that I like. The valuation is still there. So that gives me hope. That makes me not want to bail right away here and say, okay, I'm happy with... The valuation is hard to ignore, and 103 upside potential percent over the next five years. I require 80 or more, so it's still one of my best stocks now stocks, but it has dropped considerably. The momentum is gone, and the chart does not look good. So the final arbiter for me would be if it broke important support. That would be the final arbiter for me. And I can give you a recent example of one like that. AMD maybe a year ago, which we had two good years with AMD. It still looks pretty good today from a valuation point of view, but AMD lost all of its momentum, and it broke important technical support levels. The support where the buyers used to hang out were gone, and it fell through that.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it's hard to see any... And it's hard to see any on the horizon. At some point it will be, but it's hard to figure out what that catalyst is going to be.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the support level is where I draw the line, and if it drops below, I have a line in the sand. And, you know, AMDs never come back, right? I would be tempted if I ran a value portfolio. In fact, it is in my mock-up of my value portfolio now. that I just have on the drawing board in AMD. But ANAT is going to come down to the chart now as the final arbiter, whether I decide to move on and take my profits and take my football and go home and play on a different field for a while. So we'll just see how it goes. But I thought they gave a very good report, and I thought they gave good guidance. But it's one of those cases when you've got a stock that's one of the biggest returners over the last 10 years, and you just miss a little bit. If the CEO hiccups during the conference call, they'll sell it off. So anyways... Right now I'm not doing anything with it. I have it sitting on huge gains and it will come down to that technical support. Okay, Occidental Petroleum. Okay, so, you know, this is really the only stock recently that Warren Buffett, now he's got a good one going here today. It's up 6.5%. And that shows a little bit of the sector rotation. But let's just look at Occidental over the years. I mean, it has been a very, very dull sector. performing stock over the last 10 years while, of course, this is a contrarian play. Occidental has gone down by 2% a year over the last 10 years. You've lost money in Occidental over the last 10 years. The last five years, you've averaged 4.7% a year. And, of course, you know, Buffett is a contrarian. He sees value there. Over the last 12 months, it's down 13.4%. So it has nothing going on for it whatsoever from the performance side of things, which eliminates it from my purview, right? It doesn't fit my valuation criteria. or performance criteria, rather. Now, the valuation, on the other hand, I have a valuation of just 63% upside potential. It doesn't meet my valuation criterion. I'm using a 10% growth rate, which is really, really generous, very generous. And the chart has been dull for a long, long time. So I don't like it, right? I mean, look, different people, money managers, obviously, have different philosophies and different ways they look at stocks. And Occidental just doesn't meet that. my criteria but you know obviously Buffett's criteria have worked pretty well over the years just not my cup of tea in this kind of market that we're in today okay and the other one I want to look at is one I used to own and you know what I mean it broke support at one point in time and I pulled the plug on it and it hasn't done much since it is one of the fastest growing franchises out there, Wingstop. And, you know, I mean, obviously growing a lot faster than Kentucky Fried Chicken. It must be the, I guess Texas is becoming the fried chicken capital of the world. Wingstop is located in Addison, Texas. Another one, another corporate headquarters.
SPEAKER 03 :
It goes with that brisket.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, $8 billion company has been growing by 40% a year, but you come up short, and I've got to believe inflation is an issue for Wingstop. It is a crowded field, okay? wings are everybody serves some kind of a iteration of wings you know any kind of a sports bar or pub or anything like that and you're susceptible to those food costs you know i mean basically you're pretty you know i remember when uh was it buffalo wild wings in their heyday whenever the price of wings started rising they got crushed well if they had to kill all those chickens to bird flu i mean and it drove up the price of eggs it has to drive up price of chicken too and chicken wings so anyways not a good report from wing stop down 10 maybe it will show up on my drawing board in the value fund uh i don't know but when we come back i'm going to talk about one that has just gone nuts recently uh kind of a surprising one we'll be right back And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, you know, okay, the China stocks are coming back into favor, which I said they would. I said at some point in time, you know, I can remember when the Chinese stocks were the hottest stocks in the entire market. Oh, maybe 2006, 2007, around in there, when they were buying up all of the commodities in the world, cement, rebar, steel, aluminum, everything they could get their hands on. Building cities. Oh, my gosh. And the Chinese stocks were just absolutely on fire. and you had to own some of them or be left behind, right? It was easy pickings back then. Now, that was before the current leader, Xi, came along, and then they took an extreme left turn back into the communism side of things, and their market has not really been the same since. They annexed Hong Kong, obviously, and the Hong Kong stocks were another area that used to be a very lucrative area of the market. But now all of a sudden, I'm guessing the catalyst is Deep Seek. And that has warmed up these Chinese stocks. And look, BYD produces now four times as many cars as Tesla does. And, you know, they've got several multibillion-dollar companies. But the one that kind of goes under the radar, and this thing has just been absolutely screaming, and it's a global bank, okay? And, you know what, I really saw the momentum in this thing building about maybe a year ago, nine months ago. It's actually headquartered in the United Kingdom, HSBC Holdings. Which is a huge, I mean, I think they're bigger than Goldman Sachs. They are, yes, they're slightly bigger than Goldman Sachs.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and they've had some missteps along the way, and that's really what kind of has knocked that value down, which created this chance for a big recovery.
SPEAKER 04 :
Holy cow, it's cooking on every cylinder now. I mean, over the last 12 months, this thing's hitting new all-time highs here. Today, I'm just going to look at the track record, HSBC over the years. It actually has big exposure to Hong Kong, okay? I didn't really realize that until recently.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that's that old UK tie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, exactly. And I put two and two together, and I said, that's why this stock is screaming. It's because of... So I would say if you want to play China, I mean, this is the safest way to do it. Over the last 10 years, it's only averaged 8% a year because it went through that 08, 09. Well, I guess that's further than that, but it went through some tough times there. But over the last 12 months, this thing's up 60% versus the S&P 22%. So it has a lot of momentum going for it right now. uh... it's a large cap it's a mega cap uh... and my valuation works out uh... eighty seven percent upside potential so i would choose it over goldman sachs just because they have that exposure to other areas. Goldman Sachs is doing pretty well too right now, but I think HSBC has got a lot more momentum to it. I'm just going to look and see where it's ranked currently and what the dividend yield is. The dividend yield is 5.4%. That's pretty dang good. And a stock hitting new all-time highs. On a scale of 1 to 99, the momentum is 89%. And the overall rank, this would belong in our dividend portfolio if I were to, I wish I would have bought it a while ago. It's ranked number 66 out of 5,038. So kind of surprising to see a bank, a large cap dividend paying bank ranked that high in the app but i've seen stranger things so it's definitely one to have on your radar right now hsbc holdings global provider of banking and financial services to 42 million customers in 62 countries so you I just think you're more diversified there than you are in a Goldman Sachs. Okay, and then the last one I wanted to mention is actually I want to go underneath the surface of the market right now and take a look. It's pretty dull, actually. I don't see a lot of action here today. I'm hoping to find something today, but I want to look at the S&P 500 real quick in the last minute that we have here and see if there's anything that's jumping off the page right now. I think HSBC might be one of those. Oh, wow, there's some big losers today. Etsy's down 9.7. Arista's down 7.5. Cadence Systems, which has been a hot stock, It's down 10.6%. On the upside, Garmin would probably have been around longer than any other GPS-based stock. We have those old Garmin instruments in our cars. It's up 12%. Devon Energy is up 9.8%. I've noticed some big moves in natural gas here recently. We've got a big freeze coming, I think Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, 25 low down here, huh?
SPEAKER 04 :
What the heck? I've got to put the ears on the citrus trees again to get them through it. I just put them away.
SPEAKER 03 :
I finally got these rollers on the bottom of these lemon, a couple of lemon bushes, so I can actually roll them in the house.
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Roll them right in the bedroom, and the fragrance is nice at night, a little lemon blossom. Super micro, 6.5. That thing's on the move here recently, SMCI. It's a little bit of a temperamental stock, though. It worries me. And Tesla's on a pretty good day now. It's up 2.3%. And I did see, I heard a snippet of an interview with Elon Musk. He says, you know, a lot of people think I'm in it because I want the tax credit back on the Teslas. He says, that has nothing to do with why I'm doing what I'm doing, right? And, you know, they think that Elon's in it for himself, but it seems to be he's in it because he wants to help Tesla. Help just update the system and find out where the money's going and get rid of the mistakes and the waste, which we know there's plenty of.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. He wants a healthy country to operate business in as well. That's what it seems like to me.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, I don't see any ulterior motives there myself, but that's just me. Everybody's got their opinion. That's mine. Okay. Well, the four-week trial... We're having a lot of fun. We haven't had much action lately, but we have had some huge winners here so far this year. We've kind of hit a little dull spot in the market, which that comes along from time to time. The market doesn't go up every single day, but there's opportunities. I look for opportunities every day. Go to GundersenCapital.com to sign up for a four-week trial. And to talk to us about money management and financial planning, 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. All right. Have a great day, everybody.
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Washington Watch dives into current legislative dynamics with insights from Capitol Hill, examining disputes over budget reconciliation and executive policies. We spotlight recent judicial rulings and reflect on the moral and ethical dimensions of proposed government regulations. Also featuring humanitarian efforts in response to natural disasters and a call to support frontline responders, this episode offers a comprehensive view grounded in a biblical prophetic voice.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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First is an executive order relating to the affordability and availability of in vitro fertilization and other fertility treatments. These are treatments that have become unaffordable for many Americans or have been unaffordable for many Americans. And the executive order is a directive to the Domestic Policy Council to examine ways to make IVF and other fertility treatments more affordable for more Americans.
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That was White House Staff Secretary Will Scharf yesterday explaining President Trump's executive order on in vitro fertilization. Welcome to this Wednesday edition of Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Well, coming up yesterday, President Trump signed an executive order entitled Expanding Access to In Vitro Fertilization or IVF to address growing infertility rates. While IVF does help many families experience the joy of having children, countless human embryos, those are human beings, do not survive the process. They're often left in freezers with uncertain futures or discarded as medical waste. We'll discuss IVF's moral, ethical, and scientific concerns with Dr. Andrew Walker, Associate Professor of Christian Ethics and Public Theology at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. We'll also talk with Washington Times Capitol Hill reporter Lindsay McPherson about dueling reconciliation efforts in the House and Senate that are taking place this week. Plus, another federal judge has struck down the Biden administration's redefinition of sex under Title IX. Judge Reed O'Connor in Texas ruled the Biden administration exceeded its executive authority. And there is a sharp contrast between the Department of Education under President Trump and that of Joe Biden. The Trump Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights has opened an investigation into a complaint by parents about the Arlington Public Schools' transgender bathroom policy.
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My nine-year-old daughter and I walked into the Washington Liberty Women's locker room on September 9th, 2024, and we're stunned to see a naked biological man standing among little girls and moms and changing after swim class. It turns out, however, the man in question is a registered sex offender named Richard Cox, who used a transgender and stolen identity to gain access to the women's changing room.
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So the Department of Education under the Trump administration will be investigating. Now, under the Biden administration, those parents would have been investigated for exposing and opposing the dangerous policies that allowed men into girls' locker rooms. We're going to talk with FRC's Meg Kilgannon about these developments in just a moment. Also, Kansas has become the 27th state to adopt legislation like the FRC SAFE Act, which protects minors from experimental drugs and surgeries being pushed by transgender activists. And finally, Edward Graham will join us to report on how Samaritan's Purse is responding to the recent flooding in Kentucky. All of this and more coming up on this edition of Washington Watch. Let me ask you a question. Would you like to test your knowledge of government? Well, FRC has a new resource available for you, which includes an interactive 10-question quiz on government. To take it, just text the word QUIZ to 67742. That's QUIZ to 67742, and you can test your knowledge. All right, there has been a lot of movement on the trans issue in the last 48 hours. Yesterday, a super majority of Republicans in the Kansas State Legislature overrode the veto of their Democrat Governor Laura Kelly, the first veto action of the year. Both the Kansas State House and Senate bucked the governor to enact the Help Not Harm law that adds new restrictions to the use of state funds regarding the promotion of so-called gender transition surgeries. And in other action today, a federal judge, as I mentioned, permanently rejected the Biden administration's rewrite of Title IX. Now, it appears that the momentum is building against this radical ideology. Here now to discuss this and more, Meg Kilgannon, Senior Fellow for Education Studies here at the Family Research Council. Meg, welcome back to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks for having me, Tony. It's great to be here.
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All right. Let's start with what happened in Kansas. The legislature there overriding the governor, putting into place the 27th state to have a law on the books that would protect minors from these experimental surgeries and drugs used by those pushing this transgender ideology.
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Right. And it's it's amazing to think that we still have to pass these laws. Tony, we've been working on this issue. FRC has certainly since, you know, 2018 or so and trying to get states to pass these bills. And fortunately, we have seen growing momentum. But unfortunately, It's sad to think that a governor would override the veto, would veto this legislation when it protects children, it protects families from surgeries that are permanent, medication that causes permanent changes in the body. It's just sad to me to think that they had to override the veto, but fortunately they did.
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We've actually seen even Republican governors in the last few years who vetoed this type of legislation only to be overridden by their legislatures. I think of Arkansas, the first one where we worked on this, Ohio, another state. When we first picked this up back in 2016, 2017, in that period, no one else wanted to touch this. But now it is the momentum is certainly moving in this direction. Of course, the Trump administration coming in, putting an end to this nonsense, saying we are going to invite common sense back in. Is this a new day in America?
SPEAKER 10 :
I really think that we have the wind at our backs now. I think that more and more people are aware that this is actually real. But before, when we talked about this issue with people, they would say, oh, no, that's not true. That's not possible. People are not really—no one would give a sex change operation to a minor. That's ridiculous. And, you know, we seemed like the crazy people. But, in fact, people have come to understand that, no, this is a real agenda. There are doctors who consider it medically appropriate to do these procedures on children. And so now, at least in the state of Kansas and 26 other states, children will be protected from this, and parents will have the right, people who are victimized by these procedures will have the right to sue the medical providers who gave them this so-called care, which is a great, great development. I agree.
SPEAKER 07 :
And this is good. This is certainly encouraging to see, you know, maybe this is a red line, but should we really be surprised when we kind of trace back the steps, the redefinition of marriage and the embracing of a redefinition of human sexuality? I mean, should we be surprised that it's come to this point?
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure, and the governor, in her veto, used language talking about the importance of the doctor-patient relationship, which is, of course, the same thing they always trot out to justify abortion. So, yes, the reasons for this state we're in now Of course, we're all aware of, right, that we didn't just get here overnight. But it is certainly nice when we see that we are making gains in rolling some of the sexual revolution agenda back and at least giving parents the control over their children and this ability to veto these procedures for their kids and not be deceived.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, I think they've gone so far that common sense is screaming out that we've got to do something, and that's where we see from the Trump administration. But I've said this many times. We've got to have the underpinnings of this, and that is moral absolute truth. And this is as much a spiritual issue as it is a policy issue, and there's a lot of work to be done to shore up the foundations here. I want to go to another topic. Department of Education investigating the Arlington County Public Schools for their transgender bathroom policy. Now, this is a sharp contrast, as I made, as I provided at the top of the program, between the Biden administration, who would probably have been investigating these parents. Now you have the Trump administration actually taking the complaint of the parents and investigating the school district.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. This case is another one that just beggars belief. You have the case of a convicted sex offender, this man named Richard Cox, who is identifying as transgender so that he can be naked in front of children, which is the crime that he went to jail for as a sex offender. And that is all justified by the fact that he feels that he is actually a woman or claims to feel that way. And that is how he gets access to the women's locker rooms. And the school system in Arlington uses the county's swimming pool for their school programs for swim teams. They share that space. And so it's just a really dangerous situation. It's unbelievable that this has been tolerated for so long. He's been in there for years. And the county prosecutor in our area refuses to prosecute him, even with the Attorney General of the state encouraging that prosecution. And it's all based on this idea that someone can be born in the wrong body or identify as the opposite sex, which we know is just simply not true. And for people who are confused about that, that's one thing. We're concerned for them. We want them to get care. But this person has convictions for sex offenses. and seems to be hiding behind a transgender ideology to use that to his favor. And this is exactly the kind of thing that we've warned about as we've talked about this issue over the years. I'm very grateful that the Defense of Freedom Institute made such a thorough complaint about this to the Department of Education and that they're taking that up. But we shouldn't have to rely on federal civil rights protections when there are clearly criminal charges that could be made against this person in Arlington County. If the police would come when women call and say there's a man in the locker room who's naked with my children, you would think that that would get a police call and a police response, but not in Arlington apparently.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, in some places it actually gets the people issuing the complaint banned from the facility. But maybe this is a turning point where common sense, there's a revival of common sense, but again, it's got to be undergirded by an understanding of moral truth, of transcendent truth.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, and it also gets back to that issue of free speech that we were talking about last week that the vice president brought up at the speech at the security conference. You know, when you're not allowed to talk about things, when I'm not allowed to complain about a man being in my locker room, even if he says he's a woman, that's exactly how we get to this place. And so we really do need to... to appreciate the freedoms that we have here in the United States and exercise those freedoms, be involved in our local communities, and use every tool we have to make sure that we are communicating these truths in the public square, because apparently people need reminding.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. About a minute and a half left, Meg Kilgannon, the federal judge in Texas, Judge O'Connor, Reed O'Connor, struck down the Biden administration's kind of one of their final rule changes on Title IX, the redefinition of sex to include gender. Is this going to be the end of this effort to try to roll gender into the definition of sex?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it certainly is for the Trump administration. They have already reoriented the policy back to the 2020 rule. And I think that, you know, there were so many cases that went in opposed to the Biden rule that some of those are still going to be working their way through the court system. And so we'll see rulings like this. And it's always great to see them because we we. It's you know, here's another situation, another permutation of what's wrong with the Biden Title nine plan. What is wrong with trying to conflate sex and gender? And so now we see another judge is on the side of right on that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Will those remain as an obstacle to a future administration that might try to do that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, they will.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good. All right. Meg Kilgannon, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. All right, folks, don't go anywhere. We're going to get the latest from Capitol Hill regarding negotiations on budget reconciliation. The Senate moving forward with a two bill approach. The House saying, no, we're going forward with a one big, beautiful bill. We're going to be talking about that next. So don't go away. More Washington Watch straight ahead.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. In President Trump and Elon Musk's joint interview last night with Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity, the president shared that he wouldn't make cuts to Medicaid, the federal state health insurance program that mostly covers poor Americans, but making substantial cuts to Medicaid is a key part of the congressional Republicans' plan to extend the tax cuts. So how will Republicans resolve this apparent clash between the White House and congressional Republicans? Here now with all the latest reporting on this story is Lindsay McPherson, who is a Washington Times Capitol Hill reporter. She joins us from Capitol Hill. Lindsay, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. So first, remind us when the federal government is scheduled to run out of money to spend when this current continuing resolution ends.
SPEAKER 16 :
So government funding runs out on March 14th, and they're trying to negotiate a new funding deal with Democrats at the moment, separate from the party line reconciliation bill that you've been talking about. But that deadline is fast approaching.
SPEAKER 07 :
So are the two going to collide at some point or are they going to be able to work on separate tracks?
SPEAKER 16 :
They're definitely on separate tracks procedurally. Certainly the deadline of the government funding bill will put some pressure on them as they were hoping to use a lot of that time to move their party line or their bill through the party line budget reconciliation process. So they'll collide in the sense that they'll be competing for floor time and attention, but they're not They have to be on separate tracks because government funding cannot be passed through. But the budget reconciliation process, the rules wouldn't allow that because that's discretionary spending.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
And the budget reconciliation process only allows for mandatory spending.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think what I'm by by colliding, I mean, might we see Democrats holding up one to try to influence the other?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think Democrats will have other things that they're going to be demanding as part of the government funding negotiations related to asserting the congressional power of the purse in light of the department government efficiency and the things they've been cutting around the federal government. I don't think they would use the government funding bill to kind of protest the reconciliation bill, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. So let's talk about that reconciliation bill. The Senate moving forward with a smaller look like the two bill approach. The House declaring that they're going forward with the one big, beautiful bill next week and they won't take up the Senate bill. How are things looking there on Capitol Hill with the House out this week, but Senate working?
SPEAKER 16 :
So the Senate is moving ahead. As you said, they told us they had lunch with the vice president, J.D. Vance, today after Trump had endorsed the House bill, the House budget, and said he wants both chambers to adopt the House budget. They left the lunch with Vance, saying that they still plan to move ahead with their budget as kind of a plan B. They view it as a totally... backup option trigger in case needed, in case the House can't get the votes to pass its own budget. So they just want to keep the process moving. They're worried about the House. They have a small majority there getting enough votes to pass the broader plan, and that's why they decided to move ahead. But they're not excluding if the House is successful in being able to pass their own budget and supporting that plan. They do have some concerns about how it deals with the tax cut extension. We can talk about that if you like.
SPEAKER 07 :
but they're viewing their Senate budget as more of a plan B. I actually want to dive into something you've written about, and that is the Medicaid cuts. The president said there'd be no Medicaid cuts. Some Republicans are saying to reach the $1.5 trillion mark over the next 10 years in cuts and move forward with the president's tax cuts, there's going to have to be some modifications to Medicaid. Now, that's not been fully explained by most in the media that what the Biden administration did in enticing states to be more generous in Medicaid is basically a 90-10 match. So there's, and we're talking about able-bodied people in many cases. So what's being proposed, if I'm not mistaken, Lindsay, are kind of modest cuts to Medicaid and pushing more of the responsibility onto the states.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. I guess basically the House budget resolution calls for 875 billion cuts from the Energy and Commerce Committee, and they have jurisdiction over Medicaid. A lot of Republican lawmakers do not see them being able to meet that target without touching Medicaid. As Trump has said, he doesn't want to touch Medicaid. But my understanding from what the president really wants is he doesn't want to touch Medicaid benefits. What Republicans are saying they can do to find savings is what you talked about, that 90-10 formula from the Obamacare expansion, where if states opted into the Obamacare expansion, the federal government had committed to paying 90% of the cost of Medicaid, and the state's paying 10%. They want to look at adjusting that. And there are a bunch of proposals on the table for how they might adjust that. But basically, yes, they want to find savings by kicking more of the responsibility to the state, whether that's capping it at the number... capping the cost at the number of beneficiaries or doing block grants to limit the state funding. That's kind of the ideas that are
SPEAKER 07 :
And that wouldn't be the first time the federal government did that. I mean, I go back even when I was in the state legislature in Louisiana, where we had the disproportionate funding and the federal government adjusted the formula and the state had to come up with more money. So this is, you know, they entice states to expand these benefits. And then, you know, at a certain point, they got to pay for it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. So, yeah, we'll see what they end up with. I think that Republicans are in agreement that, yeah, the states could contribute more and that they, you know, take more ownership over this and it shouldn't all fall on the federal government. Exactly how to get there is kind of where the policy disagreements lie and a lot of details still to be worked out. But they are just at this first stage of setting the overall targets for spending cuts, not necessarily having to identify the details until they adopt that budget.
SPEAKER 07 :
So next week, the House returns. And when they left town last week, the plan was to move the bill this coming week. Do you think they're going to be there?
SPEAKER 16 :
That is still the plan. I think at this point that they still have some work to do to convince some kind of the debt hawks that, you know, the cuts as outlined in the resolution, they call for like at least 1.5 trillion in cuts, but they set a goal to go higher to 2 trillion. And the kind of can go even higher than that if they want, but just kind of that to appease the debt hawks, to convince them that it's enough is not kind of shored up yet, but that's, I think, something that leaders are working on over the recess and anticipation of members coming back. And I think that's part of why the Trump endorsement came out for that approach is to try to help convince the skeptical members as having the president weigh in in favor of it, I think could carry some weight there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we'll see soon enough when they return next week. Lindsay McPherson, thanks so much for joining us. Great to see you today.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, coming up next, Edward Graham of Samaritan's Purse is here to share how they are offering help and sharing the love of Jesus to those affected by the recent flooding in Kentucky and West Virginia. So don't go away. We're back with more after this.
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At the 2025 National Gathering for Prayer and Repentance, hundreds gathered with Christian and government leaders at the Museum of the Bible in Washington D.C. to pray for the nation and ask God to forgive us of our sins.
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We gather here not to appeal to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. We are appealing to heaven. Today we make our appeal not in the authority of a political party or in the name of a denomination. We come in the name and the authority of Jesus Christ. who has been given all authority in heaven and on earth, and we have been commissioned to operate in that authority.
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Father, we pray in Jesus' name for our complacency, our greed, our pride, our gluttony, our sloth, and tolerance of sin.
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Lord, we ask that you allow us to become that shining city on the hill once more for your love, your grace, and your mercy.
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Thank you for your love and your grace and your mercy, for the opportunity that you have provided us to heal our land. We ask you to do it, Lord. We ask you for the wisdom, discernment, and stamina to do the thing that you have called each one of us, all of us here, to do. May we be found faithful. We trust it, pray it, believe it all in Jesus name. Amen.
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Well, this past weekend, eastern Kentucky, southwestern Virginia and southern West Virginia were hit with devastating flooding in yet another natural disaster. As with many of these natural disasters that occur here at home, Samaritan's Purse stood ready to offer disaster relief in Jesus' name to those hurting in the midst of this devastation. Well, yesterday, their teams officially deployed. And here now to share more about Samaritan's Purse's relief efforts in the region is Edward Graham. He is Samaritan's Purse's chief operating officer. Edward, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us today.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, Tony, thanks for always having us. We appreciate the support.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you guys have been extremely busy this year going from coast to coast. I know your teams arrived yesterday and you have been leading this response from the headquarters in maintaining constant communication with your team in the field. Share with us what they've seen in eastern Kentucky and in that region and how devastating this flood was.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you just said it's devastating, and especially for those that live there. We couldn't even get into these areas really to assess at the time. So we had to send one of our helicopters up there with our assessment teams, landed there in Pikeville. And that's where we're partnering. And we've already got our disaster relief truck there now that the water's down, the bridges are open. We have our equipment there at the Pikeville First Baptist Church, which is an incredible church. They're getting after it, and I'm so thankful. God always brings us his very best, and he has with this church there. But we went and assessed all the needs. Obviously, we're going to do our normal muck-out work and cleaning up, but there's also a great need for generators and heat sources right now because there's a lack of power, and there's a cold front that's moving in with snow. And so the big challenge right there is still weather. Yes, the flood, but now the cold weather and trying to keep people warm. So we've already bought and delivered this equipment needed, these generators and heating sources being distributed by that local church. So again, they know the needs. They know where to prioritize. They know the lady, maybe the single mom that has two kids or the old lady that needs a respirator, needs the power source. They know where to go, and that's why the church is responding.
SPEAKER 07 :
Once again, I mean, you've got you still have efforts going on in North Carolina and Georgia and those regions. You're still in California working. So you are in need of manpower, I would assume.
SPEAKER 14 :
we always need volunteers and right i was just out in california about two weeks ago the palisades fire finally started opened up to us about three days later after i left i had some meetings with some of the fema leadership and we're able to get access access there but we're working in eaton we have thousands of work orders in both fire locations we've already processed a couple hundred in the eaton fire and starting to work in the palisades as well so we need volunteers there and then We need volunteers still here in North Carolina. We're starting with a rebuild. I was just at a car dedication today where we bought cars for those that were uninsured and non-insured and lost their modes of transportation. We were delivering to cars to new families. I met a kid today that was walking to work in the snow each day because he lost his car. Now, when he was the last one we did, And he was smiling. He goes, I get to drive to work. And now you look what's happening there in Kentucky and West Virginia. These communities are hurting. I just ask you to be praying. And if you've got some time, come volunteer with Samaritan's Purse. You can go to Samaritan'sPurse.org, and you can see how you can get involved in these locations.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, Edward, it's really hard to put into words what it's like unless you've been there and seen these natural disasters. Because you see pictures on TV and they show you the news and, you know, and you see it. It's one dimensional and then it goes away. A lot of times these are like where you're working out in Kentucky now, North Carolina. Many of these areas are impoverished areas to begin with. And you don't have insurance doesn't cover flooding. And so many of these people are left with nothing. And so Samaritan's Purse is providing really life sustaining support in these moments.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you know better than anyone, Pastor. Your church has lived it, and you've helped us with Samaritan's Purse when we've come down to your hometown. For a church, they're broken, and they want to be able to help, and their heart yearns to help those that need it most. But a lot of times, they don't have the resources. Well, God's entrusted Samaritan's Purse with equipment. We just need the people and the church to work through. And so God always provides, and He does give His very best. But you're right. A lot of these communities... ARE THE LEAST OF THESE AND THEY'RE THOSE THAT ARE IN THE DITCHES OF THE WORLD THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT TO PASS BY WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THEY'RE LOVED THEY'RE NOT FORSAKEN THEY'RE NOT FORGOTTEN MATTER OF FACT GOD LOVES THEM SO MUCH HE SENT HIS ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST AND THAT'S WHY WE GO SO WE HOPE WE'VE GOT YOUR LISTENERS WANT TO VOLUNTEER AND WANT TO SERVE AND LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORS TO THE LEAST OF THESE
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, tell them where they can go to find out more information about volunteering and also those that may not be able to go, but they can support others going with their monetary donations.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I appreciate it. SamaritansPurse.org that we're currently deployed to. So if it's close to you and you want to come, but also how to pray, just look at those locations and it will tell you how to pray.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, Edward Graham, always great to see you. Well, I'd like to see you, but under other circumstances. Maybe one day we'll get together with no natural disaster in the background.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, sir. Well, I appreciate all you do. We thank you for fighting for our country.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Thanks so much, Edward. Tell your dad I said hello. Edward Graham with Samaritan's Purse. And I do want to encourage you to think about if you have time to volunteer with Samaritan's Purse. As Edward made reference when I was pastoring, our church hosted Samaritan's Purse for about two and a half years as they did relief work and rebuild after a historic flood in my hometown of Baton Rouge. And I can just tell you this. I've worked with many, many different organizations. I was in the Marine Corps. I know organization. They are among the best when it comes to being organized and making efficient use of resources and your time. So you will not waste any time when you go to work with Samaritan's Purse as a volunteer. They have very clear directions. They've got professionals that are helping lay out the work. They'll provide housing for you. They'll provide the food. They'll feed you while you're there. They just need you to come in. and help in the name of Jesus. You'll be blessed by it, I can assure you. So go to the website samaritansfirst.org and consider helping them. All right, don't go away. We're coming back with more Washington Watch on the other side of this break.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Tony, thank you for inviting me on.
SPEAKER 07 :
So first, let me get your reaction to the executive order.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I think the thing that we want to be clear about right now is that we're still in a wait and see type position. The executive order did not actually provide a lot of guidance as to what the policies will look like. It just called for policy recommendations. And so I think that we have to just kind of take a wait and see approach and hope that the Trump administration doesn't go too far out on this issue because there are real issues of human dignity at stake in this executive order.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, Dr. Walker, I don't want to take a wait and see. I want to shape what, I want to erect those boundaries. So let's talk about what those boundaries need to be, the guardrails, because this is quite significant, because we're talking about human life, and we clearly take stands for the unborn when it comes to abortion. I'm saying we, evangelicals. This becomes a little more complicated for some. They don't quite understand it. And I think the ramifications are the same. The consequences are the same for society if we devalue human life no matter what stage it's in. So let's talk about those guardrails. What do we need to be concerned about? And let's start... Now, you know, I don't want to get too deep into the science. We know that this is not perfect and not only like is like 40 percent of those who engage in IVF actually have success. Let's talk first in your kind of in your lane. Let's talk about the moral and the ethical concerns here.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure. So the moral and ethical concerns are is whenever IVF procedures are undertaken, they're called IVF cycles. What happens is more embryos are created than can be implanted. And there are multiple layers of moral concerns here. The first moral concern is that we're going outside the God-appointed, scriptural-appointed boundaries for how we understand children to come into this world, which is through the marital act of husband and wife. And when we step outside those boundaries, we're going to introduce moral concerns. And that's where IVF steps in, where... children are being fertilized outside the womb, literally in a petri dish. In vitro means in glass. And so in vitro cycles, again, more embryos are created than can be implanted. That raises the question, what comes of those leftover embryos? And as Christians, we believe every single human being, regardless of their stage of development, is made in God's image. And that means we have human beings that are frozen. Some are destroyed. Some are donated to medical research.
SPEAKER 07 :
And all of this stems. You've listed several there. So let's kind of take a couple of those and unpack those because those can be addressed with the right policies. Now, there's a bigger issue that you talked about this being done outside the womb. But let's talk about, number one, the excess embryos because they are frozen. And this would happen back in the Bush administration. It was a big deal about the experimentation on these embryos. So that's one issue. But there are policies that we've seen. Actually, other countries that tend to be more progressive, and I don't say that in a positive sense, I mean more liberal, but yet they've put limits on the number of embryos that can be created. So that's one policy recommendation, is it not?
SPEAKER 09 :
it is and that should be one of the things that i think conservatives and christians want to bring to this conversation is an awareness that the ivf industry and the artificial reproductive technology industry at large is a highly unregulated industry meaning there aren't many regulatory and legal constraints to this industry. And that means, for example, we don't even know how many frozen human beings, frozen embryos there are currently in the United States because there are no legal reporting requirements. And so something that we could hope for out of this executive order is that there could be tighter regulatory reform brought to this issue.
SPEAKER 07 :
Andrew, that's one thing that concerns me a bit about this executive order is it actually calls for a reduction in regulation in order to drive down the cost when there, in fact, is not much regulation at all. Now, there are some states like my home state of Louisiana actually has some pretty good restrictions, some regulations on here to protect both the the couple seeking IVF, but also the embryos as well. So that's a concern I have in this executive order that it doesn't want regulation.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that's where, honestly, we have to take a wait-and-see approach. As I was reading the executive order myself, it seemed like the Trump administration is primed to want to protect the access to in vitro fertilization. And there are conversations about there being potential insurance mandates. But again, we don't know. And I think what we want to take into consideration here is is there's an education campaign that has to go on. The broader public is really unaware of the intricacies of what goes on with in vitro infertilization. And that's even the case within the evangelical population as well. And so, unfortunately, we're operating at a great cultural disadvantage on this issue. So as much as the policy considerations are important, and we want to argue for policies that protect human dignity, I think there's a major responsibility on the part of think tanks like FRC and for churches to go about the task of equipping our members to understand what really is at stake in the in vitro fertilization process.
SPEAKER 07 :
So some of these excess embryos are frozen sometimes indefinitely. Let's talk about the spiritual implications here of an embryo, a human embryo.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure, certainly. So, you know, right out of the gate in Genesis chapter one, we understand that every human being is made in God's image. And what Christian theology has to bear on this conversation is that we believe that being made in God's image is not something that is conferred on an individual outside the womb. Rather, the Christian teaching on the imago dei is the idea that from the moment of conception or fertilization, that person is made in God's image, and they are owed, by right of their personhood, the ability to develop and mature into their full adulthood.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Dr. Walker, the scripture says it, Jeremiah, Juan said, you know, that he, the Lord called him, knew him in the womb. David made reference to this. So that's not a concept that you have to dig deep into scripture to find. It's right there front and center. So with that understanding, we're talking about human beings that have personhood, that have a spirit, that are frozen indefinitely, and possibly in some cases, as we talked about a moment ago, they are experimented upon, used for medical experimentation. How can one rationalize that if they have a biblical view of life?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we can't rationalize that if we have a biblical view of life. And that's why the education campaign is so central in this conversation, because a lot of evangelicals do support in vitro fertilization. Here's the good news, though, Tony, is that every time I've had a conversation with an otherwise pro-life evangelical, and they're made aware of the facts, of what goes on in an IVF cycle, their natural pro-life instincts kind of flare up. And I have never had a conversation where someone hasn't moved to becoming alarmed about IVF. But again, there's an education deficit that we have to speak into. But I think we also recognize here is that this is grounded on theological claims, grounded on biological claims and philosophical claims. That from the moment of conception, we are the same person at all stages of our development.
SPEAKER 07 :
But what do we do with Scripture, that biblical truth, when it happens to be inconvenient for public policy and the trends of the day?
SPEAKER 09 :
That's where Christians are called to speak prophetically, regardless of the social costs. One of the things we care about is witnessing to the truth for the sake of the truth. And oftentimes, as I hear from the FRC, one of our tasks as believers is to be watchmen on the wall who are out there kind of being the moral vanguards of society, prophetically witnessing to God's truth about how he has made us in his image and how law is called to recognize the truth of our embodiment and our human nature.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, Dr. Walker, I don't want to get deep into this because this is not, neither one of us are field of expertise, but there's enough general knowledge out there that Infertility is... IVF is not a solution. It doesn't fix infertility. It works around it. There are other ways and other therapies that can be used. And so I think... Hopefully, and I did see kind of an opening in the executive order that it didn't just focus on IVF, but we may talk about other remedies to infertility. And I think that needs to be a part of the conversation as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
I firmly agree. And I think we should step back and recognize that while evangelicals and social conservatives are right to have a lot of concerns about this executive order, we want to keep this in kind of perspective that the Trump White House has otherwise been a very pro-life White House. And even as we have concerns about this executive order, let's recognize what is in the words of the executive order itself. which is the recognition that children are a blessing and that we actually need more children. I don't recall previous administrations talking about the positive good of children like we are seeing in this White House. And so I want to see the wins and take the wins where we can get them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and I want this administration to be successful in that pursuit. And that's where I think thinking through some of these issues that, frankly, as you said, it's an education issue. And if evangelicals have not thought a lot about this and the implications theologically, spiritually, morally to IVF, you can't expect those that just work on public policy to have thought through those ramifications either. So I do think it's important with that backdrop drop. As you stated, we've got an administration that has put a high priority on family formation. As you pointed out, that is in the executive order. That's encouraging. We need to be prayerful as they pursue a policy, but also prayerful. educating ourselves on the truth of Scripture and what the Scripture has to say about this. We just had about a minute and a half left, but what would be your advice to a hypothetical couple that might be considering IVF at this very moment?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, the first thing is I would want to ask a lot of questions because, again, in our culture, IVF is just kind of an assumed reality. And that assumption doesn't operate on the assumption that individuals are well informed about all of the moral kind of firewalls that are involved in IVF. And so I'd want to ask questions about do they fully understand what is involved with IVF? And then I'd want to point them to scripture to talk about what it means to bear God's image spiritually. who bears God's image, and that I would want to really just lead them to kind of working out the implications and consequences of their pro-life ethic. Tony, the good news here is that this is actually not that complex of a debate if we have a biblical ethic on human dignity, All we really have to do is just carry that ethic that we care about with the unborn in the context of abortion and to carry that forward in the context of IVF. Because at the end of the day, the debate really circles around who is our neighbor, who is made in God's image, and what is a human being? And Christians, I believe, have the best answers to these questions. Right. It's a consistent application of that biblical truth.
SPEAKER 07 :
Dr. Walker, thank you so much for joining us today. Always great to see you. Appreciate your insight. Thank you so much. And folks, I've released my own statement earlier today on the White House's executive order. You can actually read that at TonyPerkins.com. You can follow the links over and see that. All right, we're out of time for today. Thanks for joining us. Until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul, found in Ephesians 6, where he says, you've done everything you can do, and you've prayed, prepared, and taken your stand. By all means, keep standing.
SPEAKER 02 :
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The Flatline brings an in-depth discussion on divine discipline and the critical importance of maintaining spiritual integrity. Rick Hughes warns against the dangers of neglecting spiritual responsibilities, leading listeners through biblical examples of sin and its consequences. With a focus on confession and spiritual renewal, this episode serves as a wake-up call for believers struggling with habitual sin. Through practical insights and scriptural wisdom, listeners are equipped to re-align their lives with God's purpose and avoid the 'door to doom.'
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes. For the next few minutes, I'd like to give you an invitation to stay with us as we'll give you some motivation, some inspiration, some education, all done without any type of manipulation. It's a show about the Bible, the Word of God, learning how to have a flat line in your soul, an invisible barrier, a main line of resistance that will stop the outside pressures of adversity and before they ever become the inside source of stress. That's why we always say adversity is inevitable, but stress is optional. So you can build a flatline in your soul by learning God's problem-solving devices. And if you learn God's problem-solving devices and use them, apply them into your life, then you don't have to worry, you don't have to be afraid, you don't have to be bitter, you don't have to be angry. Living the Christian life is the most phenomenal way to live because it's a stress-free life. It's a worry-free life, and it's a life full of assurances and guarantees. So that's what this radio show is about, The Flatline, reminding you of these biblical truths and introducing you to a in-depth way of studying and learning the Word of God, as I said, with no manipulation or any type of solicitation, just helping you to learn it so you can make the choice to apply it. The best thing is that it starts with Jesus Christ, the anointed Son of God, the good news that he redeemed us out of the slave market of sin, the good news that our debt to God has been paid and we are free from the penalty of sin and the power of sin. So when we receive Jesus Christ as our Savior, it is the single most significant decision you'll ever make in your life because you are in effect accepting the gift he gave you, the offering he made on your behalf, compliments of the grace of God. Ephesians 2.89 says, For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should brag about it. And then Titus again in chapter three, verse five, not by works of righteousness, which we've done, but according to his mercy, he saved us by the washing of regeneration. and the renewing of the Holy Spirit. Let me tell you what that means. The washing of regeneration means you are born again. You are born spiritually dead, then you are made spiritually alive by the renewing of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit comes to live inside of your dead, dormant human spirit. And now you're able to have fellowship with God because the Bible tells us if you're gonna worship God, you must worship him. in spirit and in truth and if you have a dead human spirit because you're born dead spiritually dead as by one man sin came into the world and death by sin that's you and me then we are made alive through christ and the renewing of the holy spirit And this verse in Titus goes on to say, which he, God, shed on us abundantly through Christ our Lord, so that, being justified by his grace, not by means of our own production, justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the confidence we have, the hope we have of eternal life. That's a phenomenal passage for you. I don't know if you've ever considered it, but maybe it's time you did. You are not going to live forever. Everyone has to face death sooner or later, because the Bible says, it is appointed unto man once to die, and after that, the judgment. And I can think of no worse way to die than to die hopeless, without Christ, without hope, without eternal life. And sometimes we walk around as if we have some kind of guarantee that we're going to live forever, and we don't. Sometimes we walk around with our miserable life, just compounding our decisions, not realizing there is a way out. The Bible says if any man's in Christ, he's a new creature. Old things are passed away. All things become new. At the age of 22, I had a chance to start my life all over again when I believed in Jesus Christ. What a significant moment that was for me to know that all of the garbage I had done in the past was gone. and the garbage I might do in the future could be taken care of when I would confess my sin to God. So I had a chance to start my life again, a new man in Christ. Old things passed away, all things become new. And it can happen to you. You only have to do it one time. You don't have to get saved 10 times. You make a decision once in your life to believe in Christ, receive him as your savior, And that's when the real you starts living. Not the dead you, the real you. You see, the dead you is a body and a soul, but no spirit. The real you is a body and a soul and a living spirit indwelled by God, the Holy Spirit. So when you make that decision to trust Christ and to believe in Christ, it is the single most significant decision, as I said, that you could ever make. Now, once a person becomes a Christian, once he commits to the royal family of God, there's always discipline. God deals with us. And we've been talking about the door to doom. I've done three to six studies on this now, the door to doom. And I'm going to do another one now on something that's very significant, very important. You listen and you understand. We are children of God by faith alone in Christ alone. And as God's children, there are mandates in the Bible of what we should and we shouldn't do. And I'm not talking about don't drink, don't dance, don't smoke, don't wear makeup, don't have fun. Those things, you know, people want to wrap your life in chains and try to get you to give up all the good times. The Bible doesn't say don't drink. It says don't get drunk. The Bible doesn't say don't smoke. It says don't harm your body. I mean, you can harm your body by eating 10 chickens for lunch just as bad as you can by getting drunk or whatever. But when we're talking about the Bible and the Word of God, it gives us mandates, scripture that we're to live by. And the first one is study, grow, learn God's plan, understand it, apply it, use it in your life. Stay out of mental attitude sins, stay out of the sins of the tongue, stay out of overt sins, because you have an old sin nature. There's a worm in the fruit. It's called an old sin nature, and it'll eat its way out if you let it. And so there is something in the Bible. There is a door in the Bible that you can walk through, and once you walk through this door, essentially your life is over. Your life is finished if you're a Christian, if you're a believer in Jesus Christ. You can take yourself out too early. Take yourself out too soon. My pastor once said, it's called the sin unto death. It's the door to doom. The sin unto death is the sin face-to-face with death, and it's not any specific sin. It's not one specific thing you do. It's you residing and functioning in the cosmic system under control of your sin nature, never rebounding, never confessing your sins, staying out of fellowship with God, living your life in reversionism, or as some people call it, backsliding, and never getting out of it. You see, all of the human goods you do, all your going to church and all your giving money and being sweet and nice to the little ladies trying to cross the street, all the human good and all the sins you may commit along the way all add up to motivational evil towards your own self and functional evil towards other people. So the sin faced with death is not one sin. It's a lifestyle of sin. It's you creating for yourself your very own dying misery in death's shattered valley that you will go through. It's fair from God, it's painful from God, and it terminates in physical death. Sins you may commit while dying will even intensify the journey through death's shattered valley. bitterness, anger, fear, antagonism, hatred. I mean, you can go out full of those mental attitude sins and you will be miserable all the way. You might ought to take a look at yourself just for a minute. I have seen people go out under the sin of the death. I will not name any names. It's nobody's business. but they've been believers in Jesus Christ that got into sin and would not confess the sin and continued to try to manipulate God, and eventually God said, that's it, you're coming home. The Bible teaches there are three stages of divine discipline in Hebrews 12, 5, and 6. It says in Hebrews 12, 5, and 6, and so you yourselves have forgotten sin, the principles of doctrine which teach you as a son. My son, do not make light of the discipline from the Lord, nor be fainting when you're punished by him. For you see, whom the Lord loves, he punishes, and he scourges with a whip every son that he receives. That is discipline one and discipline two. Discipline one is the Lord punishing. Discipline two is the Lord scourging. And if you are a son or a daughter of God and you get out of fellowship with God, fail to confess your sin, you are going to go under discipline one, which is warning discipline. God will warn you that you're out of fellowship. It may be through a pastor and a message he gave. It may be through a book you read. It may be through a sign you see. but it is a divine warning. It may be through this radio message. Get back where you belong. Quit living in the cosmic system. You've been lured. You've been lured into the cosmic vortex. You're in a frantic search for happiness and you're not finding it. It's a dead end street. And so God is warning you, come back. Come back where you belong. This is the whole story of the prodigal son in the book of Luke who was lured into the cosmic system thinking he could find happiness in the details of life and he did not. He just about killed himself until he changed his mind and went home to his father and confessed his sin. So warning, discipline, and then the second he scourges with a whip every son whom he receives. Scourges means he gives us a paddling. He takes us to the woodshed. And this is where there's pain. No pain, no gain as far as God's concerned at this stage. And there's nothing worse than God putting you under pain, under discipline. And this is when God can get your attention. It's called enforced humility. You should have enough genuine humility to confess your sin and respond to the warning discipline, but you did not. You justified why you were doing what you were doing. You compromised the plan of God, and so now God has to give you some enforced humility. bring you to your knees until you admit I was wrong. I stepped out of line. You shouldn't be able to admit that father, you know, it's horrible to have to do this, but father, I'm sorry. I made a mistake. I got out of line. I'm gonna show you how it happens in the Bible all the time. This is called warning discipline from Jesus Christ in Revelation 3.20. A lot of times people will tell you this is a salvation verse, but it's not. It's a verse to one of the churches. He said, behold, I stand at the door and I knock. If anyone has heard my voice and opens the door, that means if you rebound or confess your sin, I will enter face to face with him and dine with him. That means you will be restored to fellowship with God and he with me. That's the warning discipline, Christ standing at the door knocking. Maybe you've heard the knock, but you didn't respond. I urge you, open the door, confess your sin to God, rebound, get back in fellowship before the intense discipline comes. In Psalm 32, verses two through five, I'm gonna read to you David's words about his sin before he was eventually found out and God disciplined him by means of Nathan. His sin was the murder of Uriah the Hittite, the stealing of his wife Bathsheba, fornicating with her. Here it is, listen. Psalm 32, two through five. Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity and in whose spirit there's no guile. When I kept silence, that means he did not confess his sin, my bones waxed old through my roaring all day long. In other words, physically I hurt. For day and night your hand was heavy upon me. My moisture is turned into a drought of summer. I acknowledge my sin unto you. My iniquity I did not hide. I said I will confess my transgression unto the Lord and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Psalm 32, two through five. Psalm 32, two through five. Go read that and look at it in your own life. Is this you? Have you kept silent? Are you hurting every day in your life? Is God's disciplined hand heavy on you? So much so that it's like a drought and no water, no relief. That's what it means. Then it's time for you to do what David did. I will confess my transgression unto the Lord and he forgave the iniquity of my sin. The door to doom being dying discipline is the stage that is the most horrible stage to go into. Once you step through that door, that's it. In 1 John 5, 16, if anyone sees his brother sinning a sin not face to face with death, He shall ask, and God the Father will give to him who does not sin face to face with death. In other words, if you know a believer out of fellowship, struggling along under discipline, you can pray for them, pray for God to speak to them, pray for God to have mercy on them, pray for them to wake up and see what they're doing. But now the verse goes on to say, there is a sin face to face with death. And I do not say that you should ask concerning this category. Once God puts somebody under the sin of face-to-face with death, you can stop praying because it's not going to be effective anymore. In 1 Corinthians 5, 1 through 5, we have a case of incest in the church. I'll read it to you. This is in the Bible, 1 Corinthians 5, 1 through 5. It is actually reported, actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you. and the kind that even pagans do not tolerate. Pagans don't do this, unbelievers. A man is sleeping with his father's wife, and you are proud. Shouldn't you rather have gone into mourning and have put this man out of your fellowship, the man that's been doing this? For my part, even though I'm not physically present, I'm with you in my spirit, and as one who is present with you in this way, I've already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this." Now remember, this is the apostolic authority of Paul the apostle. This is the power that God granted him with, this power, this ability to do this. So here's what he said. When you are assembled and I'm with you in my spirit and in the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. He is going to die the sin unto death. Is he going to go to heaven? Yeah, I just said it would. His spirit will be saved in the day of the Lord. Yes, he's going to heaven. But his time on earth is up. That's it. He's not responding to warning discipline. He's not responding to intensive discipline. He's not having any sort of genuine humility. He's living under arrogance. He's justifying why it's okay to do this. He's lying to himself. He's absorbed with his self. And God says that's it. When God says that's it, it's over. And I hope you're not at that point in your life where God says that's it. There are a lot of ways you can get there. This is one way, through the lust of the flesh. There's another way in Acts 5, one through 11. A certain man named Ananias with his wife Sapphira sold a possession that they had and kept back part of the price. His wife also being aware of it, they brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles' feet. And Peter said to Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the price of the land? While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not your own to do whatever you wanted to do with it? And why did you conceive this thing in your heart? You have not lied to me, you've lied to God. So he came saying he was gonna give every nickel he got out of the sale of that land, he's gonna give it to the church. And Ananias, hearing these words, fell down. He didn't have to say that. He could say, I'm going to give half. I'm going to give a third. I'm going to give three-fourths. But he bragged about it. And this is his own arrogance again. I'm giving it all to God. No, he was not. He was holding some back. And Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and gave up his ghost. And a great fear came upon them that heard these things. And the young men rose up, wrapped him up, and carried him out and buried him. And it was about the space of three hours later when his wife, not really knowing what happened, came in. And Peter said, Tell me, did you sell the land? For how much did you get for it? And she said, Yeah, we got that much. And Peter said to her, Well, how is it that you've agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? Behold, the feet of them which have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also. And then she fell down straightway at his feet and yielded up her ghost. And the young men came in, found her dead, and carried her out and buried her by her husband. And a great fear came upon the church and upon as many as heard these things. Here's the authority of the apostle again to put someone under the sin unto death. for lying and misrepresenting what they had done before the congregation. And this was an habitual sin. This was not something that happened one time. This is indicative of their attitude, of their lying, of the way they tried to persuade people that they were really great folks and they really were not. And they came in and said, oh, we're going to give everything to God. And they lied. And that was it. God said, that's it. I've had enough of your trickery, your foolery. You're out of here. There's another way in 1 Corinthians 11, 27 and 28, even through verses 30 and 31. And this is taking communion in a perpetual state of carnality. You are warned in the Bible, do not take communion out of fellowship. If you take communion out of fellowship with known sin in your life, you are bringing discipline on yourself. And if you want to go read that passage, it says that many have perished because of this. face to face with death because they did not use rebound. They, assaulted God by taking communion out of fellowship, acting as though everything was okay. Have you ever done that? Have you ever gone to church and acted like everything was really okay and it's not? Have you not known your own sin and where you are and you haven't rebounded it, and yet you put on a big show when you go to church, even taking communion as if you're close to God and you're not? He doesn't tolerate it. Here's the principle you should learn. The door to death is the door to doom. Administration of the sin face-to-face with death does not imply you're losing your salvation. That's not what it means. Remember 2 Timothy 2.13. If we're unfaithful, he remains faithful. since he cannot deny himself. So he's not going to take your salvation away. He's just going to escort you to heaven a few years quicker than you should have gone, because you're useless and you're unavailable for God. Here's some principles. Number one, you're not to pray for believers who are dying, the sin terminating in death. Don't waste your time. That's it. It's over. And they're gone. That's between them and God. Two, you can pray for others as long as they have not committed the sin that terminates in death. But the sin terminating in death is the sin of not executing the spiritual life in the church age. So as a believer in Jesus Christ, you fail to learn the spiritual life. You fail to rebound. You fail to grow in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You're saved. You're a Christian. You have a ticket to heaven for sure because of the grace of God. But you live a lie. You live under the energy of the flesh. You live letting your old sin nature control you. You fail to recognize your sin. And it may take a week. It may take a year. It may take 10 years. But God will come to a place in your life where he says, that's it. Let's go. You're out of here. Here's another principle. The sin face to face with death is a sin which is repeated over and over and over again. Not one sin, not any particular sin, but a repetition of sin. That's you living out of fellowship every day. You not ever being filled with the Holy Spirit. You not growing in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Oh, you go to church, you play that little game. You're just a caricature of Christ, not an image of Christ, a caricature. You look good, you sound good, you act holy, but you're not. On the inside, you're not. You've quenched the Holy Spirit, you've grieved the Holy Spirit, and you are under discipline from God, and you know it. It is time to recover while you still have a chance. It's time for you to go to the Father and admit your sin while there is still a chance. It's time to get over your arrogance. It's time to get over your pride. It's time to fall on your knees and say, Father, have mercy on me. I've sinned. He loves you. He's waiting on that. He's waiting to hear those words from you today. The sooner you do it, the better the guarantee you're going to have a wonderful life. Or you can just keep going like you're going. The sin of face to face with death is maximum divine discipline. And it comes from the integrity of God. It's the highest form of disgrace that any of us could ever occur. Disgrace. Instead of hearing, well done, my good and my faithful servant. You will be in heaven, no more tears, no more pain. The old things will be passed away, but you will not get a hero's welcome. You will have eternal life, but you will not be getting a high five as you cross the pearly gates, we say. You will hear something like, have a seat. You'll be in the doctor's waiting room like you've been going there and wait for an hour and a half. I mean, you'll just be sitting there waiting. When's he going to see me? When's he going to see me? Just be patient. He'll get around to you sooner or later because you had no time for God in your life. You had no time for the Word of God in your life. You had no time to learn and practice the principles of the protocol plan of God in your life. You just justified doing what you wanted to do, when you wanted to do it, and how you wanted to do it. And now you expect God to jump at your command. It doesn't work that way. That sin, face-to-face with death, is maximum divine discipline. And it is the most painful experience in life, and there is no alleviation of it. It implies loss of all rewards. Loss of all blessings and being ashamed at the judgment seat of Christ. Yes, being ashamed, yes. It is true that there is shame in heaven at the judgment seat of Christ because you'll look at your life and you'll say, what an idiot I have been. I blew it. I could have glorified my Savior, my Lord, I could have replicated his life and I blew it in my own frantic search for happiness. That's the only time you'll ever have shame in eternity is when you're evaluated and all of your production is burned up as wood, hay, and stubble. That's the door to doom you do not want to walk through. And you may be halfway through it this morning. You may have the door cracked and about to go in. Listen to me carefully. Do not play games with God. I hope you're listening. I hope you're learning. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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HR3 Rush To Reason February 18, 2025 by John Rush
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This is Rush to Reason.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I talked earlier about – it's myself and Andy, by the way. I talked earlier about Phil Weiser and the fact that he's our attorney general, which, by the way, the guy's never tried a case in court to my knowledge. I don't think even to this day he has, but he's still our AG. Imagine that. He'll be governor. And if we don't do things right on our side, he will be. Now, keep in mind, he's also an AG that has joined multi-state suits over Trump. This was yesterday. Over Trump's administrational cuts to the NIH, the National Institute of Health Affairs. funding. And basically, he's mad because Trump and Doge went in and cut a lot of different funding, which again, as we talked about with Jordan earlier, they're looking at a lot of different things and areas and so on where they may bring some things back depending upon what it was, or they may combine certain organizations and so on. We'll see when it's all said and done. But bottom line, we all know that NIH has done a lot of very malicious things when it comes to the health of Americans. And I mean, when I say malicious, I'm using that word on purpose.
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They move money to the Wuhan labs. Correct. Okay. Look, I mean, it's very fertile territory. If our side had any strategizing whatsoever, if we cared about anything other than purges and, you know, opting out and all this kind of stuff, if we actually cared about defeating Democrats, we would be looking at this and saying, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You support the people who move money to the Wuhan lab? Right. That's what you support?
SPEAKER 14 :
You're kidding. And partially because, you know, what Phil's looking at in a lot of these states that have sued over is because there's a certain amount of funding, keep in mind, that comes into Colorado. From the NIH, it comes to some of our universities and so on. And I don't know exactly what that's funded or funding. You have to go through and actually look at some of the audits to determine exactly what's happening at, you know, CU, at Anschutz, at some of the other places to determine exactly what's happening. And again, there's all sorts of fear porn in this. You're going to hear all sorts of things about if we don't get this funding, people's lives are at danger. People will die, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. It's just rhetoric is all it is.
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Yeah, look, here's the big problem that he has. Doge is going to come up with details. They're going to come up with bad stuff that that money was used on, okay? And it's going to look very bad for any candidate who wants to align himself with that. If we had a candidate who was ready, who could go after him and say, all he would have to do is grab Doge's notes and go to work.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep. Absolutely. Speaking of Doge, Weiser is also one of those governors that is suing, you know, that is in a lawsuit that's basically suing, one of the AGs, that is suing to make sure that Doge doesn't have the access that it now has. Again, as I asked yesterday, Phil, what are you trying to hide? What are you protecting? Yeah, what are you hiding, Phil? What are you worried about, Phil?
SPEAKER 03 :
Basically, you want auditors not to have the access to audit? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Basically, that's what Phil is saying. Oh, that makes you perfectly honest, Phil. He's another one that's also pushing back against birthright citizenship and that ban. So we just keep rattling these off is what our Colorado AG is doing, which again, to Andy's point and what I said earlier, if we had a leadership in Colorado and the Colorado GOP, we would already be having announcements. This is one area where I'm all for having our caller to GOP put some announcements out supporting Trump and Doge and criticizing what Weiser is doing in these particular situations.
SPEAKER 03 :
They should be targeting Weiser right now. They should have a bullseye on his head, politically speaking, folks. Yes. That's what they should have right now, and they should be going after him. But no, I'm sure they're just talking about election integrity and stop the steal.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, no, no, Andy. No. If you said many, many times, it's even worse than that. Instead of going after Weiser for the things I'm mentioning, we're going after fellow Republicans through the likes of Rhino Watch. Right. And we've even hired an attorney to be on staff, if you would, at the Colorado GOP. Anti-corruption committee. To actually go after these same individuals.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. The Anti-Corruption Committee, we have an attorney, Matt Arnold, and they're going to be going after who? Republicans. They're not going after Phil Weiser. They're not going to do one thing about Phil Weiser. They're not going to say anything about Phil Weiser. Where right now, they should be looking ahead and saying, look, this guy's almost certainly going to be the candidate. Start hitting him. That's right. No, they're not going to do that. They're going to go after their own. They're going to attack Jeff Crank, which they are actively doing. They're going to attack Jeff Hurd, which they are actively doing. They're going to attack Lauren Boebert, which they are actively doing. Not only is the state party doing that on their own, but they're doing it through Rhinowatch, like you said. This is where they're putting all their efforts. They want to divide their way to success. It is unbelievable, John.
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And again, these are things, in my opinion, folks, this is very, very low-hanging fruit when it comes to things that we should be doing as a party. But again, this is my disappointment. This is my frustration with our party leadership here in Colorado. I haven't heard a single peep.
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regarding what doge is doing and what our own ag in colorado is doing against not only doge but the trump administration to boot john i can guarantee you in 49 smarter states okay here's what the gop is doing in all the other 49 states they're just sitting there waiting for doge to put out things that relate to their state right okay because doge is going to find this kind of graft going on in all 50 states correct but we're not going to do anything with it here
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Which, again, folks, this is low-hanging fruit. There's no reason why, as a party, we are not attacking some of these individuals, i.e. Hickenlooper, who's going to be running for his Senate seat again, i.e. Weiser, who's going to be running for Polis' seat. And I've got some things to talk about with Polis, which, by the way, could be used by our own GOP in these same lines. I'll talk about that as soon as we come back. We'll shift gears and go there. Don't go anywhere. Flesh Law is coming up next, 3.03 p.m. 806-8886. Civil, criminal, you name it. And by the way, unlike Phil Weiser, Kevin has been to court, likes going to court, and will defend you at all costs. 303-806-8886.
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All right, myself and Andy, Charlie Grimes as well. And as I said earlier, I'm going to talk about Governor Polis now, which, again, knowing that Weiser is most likely going to be the Dems pick. I could be wrong. Somebody else might surface up as a Democrat and do fairly well, although I highly doubt it.
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I'm just not impressed. I don't think our Secretary of State is going to make it.
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No, she's another low IQ individual. Sorry.
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She's just not very bright. She's not super smart.
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Look, he's smarter. He is.
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He's going to be there.
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He's smarter. She's not. So sorry. Just is what it is. Is what it is. Funny enough, he's kind of a middle aged white guy. But anyways, whatever. Yeah, whatever works. So this particular topic, even though it's Governor Polis. It's still the party mantra, I think, when it's all said and done. And it's their marching orders. And you could easily take some of what Polis is saying right now and target that. Again, do some things as a party right now, newsletters, announcements, things like that, getting geared up for the next round of elections in 2026, because they're not as far away as you all think. They'll be here before you know it. So there was a 9 News article today talking about the Trump administration directs states to stop spending money for EV charger infrastructure. So I'm not going to read the whole article to you, but here's some quotes from Polis. The Trump administration is attacking the freedom to move. Including the freedom to drive and putting their own agendas above what Americans and the market are demanding. Okay, so that one alone, that one sentence. Yeah. If I was GOP chair, I could put out a rebuttal to that that would literally tear that to pieces. Right. But instead, we're worried about infighting and calling rhinos rhinos and we're on the rhino watch and this, that, and the other.
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Our state party is spending all of its time stacking reorg meetings.
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And by the way, the way I would combat this is, by the way, I would show an ICE vehicle in the newsletter, packed up, ready to go, families inside of it, and they've got the ability to travel coast-to-coast Easily with our current infrastructure. No problem. In other words, people in this country have no problem with the ability to move about. It's a matter of what you're choosing to drive. Right. And furthermore, it should not be up. And this is I'm an EV owner. OK, by the way, I think I can talk about this better than most because of that. I don't think it's anybody else's responsibility tax-wise to put in the infrastructure necessary for me to drive coast to coast in my EV. That is up to the market to be able to justify the costs and the installation of EV stations coast to coast, just like anything else we've done in the past, just like gas stations have popped up over the years in this country. Why should taxpayers be on the hook for making that happen?
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Exactly. When did gas stations get made by the government? They didn't. Okay. So if they didn't make gas stations, why did they have to make this kind of fuel? Right? Why did they have to make charging stations?
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Well, he goes on to say, Coloradans want more charging stations to support the many electric vehicles they are choosing to buy and drive across our state. Well, keep in mind, even in Colorado... While Colorado is one of the larger states in regards to EV purchases, they still don't come even close to what the predictions were going to be in this state for us buying them and acquiring them. And they're not even close to what the ICE market is in this state. John, their inventory is backing up on car lots. Correct.
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They're not moving.
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Now, this, he goes on to say, and I did the math on this, so I'll get to that in a moment. Colorado has granted more than $33.6 million in congressionally approved NEVI funds to add 364 new fast-charging ports at 61 sites through the DCFC Plaza's grant program. Polis office said in a news release that the Polis administration... has contracted for two rounds of projects and announced awards for a third in late december many of these projects will start construction this spring two nevi funded sites have opened to date with numerous more sites anticipating to open in 2025 so i did the math And I looked up how many actual ports you get at a fast charge station. Keep in mind, fast charge means DC, meaning you can charge an EV vehicle in 10 to 15 minutes. It's direct charge because all EVs have a direct charge, a DC battery. They don't have an AC. Sorry, direct current, not direct charge. The DC is direct current charging. So we are literally, as taxpayers... We're spending $92,000 on a fast charge station, meaning that each port, because of how many ports come through an actual fast charge station, we're on average between $25,000 to $30,000 a port. That's what it's costing us as taxpayers. Yeah. In other words, folks, this isn't cheap. You're paying for this. And on top of all of this, so far there's been no means of protection when it comes to these stations because they get broken, they get damaged, the cords get stolen because of the copper that's inside and so on. It's not like a regular gas pump hose.
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Yeah, the bottom line is... Your governor is spending a big bunch of money for charging stations for cars that are generally owned by wealthy people while you have homeless people all over the streets. Correct. Okay? That's how he's using the money. Correct. You've got a massive homeless problem here in Colorado. You've got a huge problem with, by the way, car theft here in Colorado. Right? You don't have enough cops. They're not out there. We just don't have what we need. So you've got a lot of cars getting stolen. You've got homeless people all over the place. You've got a big drug problem. But what's he spending money on? Okay. electric carports for rich people.
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Somebody just said one of the problems we have with this whole charging station thing is that Americans are grossly ignorant, and those on the left believe that oil companies own the gas stations. Yeah, well, and that they're also subsidized. Yeah, no, they're not subsidized. Nope. They're not owned by the oil companies. Now, there are some stations in some states where the oil company may have a lease on that station or something along those lines.
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Exxon stations.
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In some cases, they might own the station outright, although keep in mind that was done with their own R&D profits and so on. They didn't expect government or a taxpayer to actually fund that station. They did that on their own. Most stations, though, across the country are independently owned and operated. They may hang the sign. And keep in mind, folks, you remember the industry I've come from, so I do know a little bit about how these things work. So in most cases... the operator has agreed with a contract to buy said fuel from that particular supplier oil company they'll hang the signs there's some incentives to actually do that i'm not getting all the details of how that works but there's some incentives to you know be exxon or chevron or shell or whatever the case may be and it's all done internally and there's there's some fights sometimes on who wants that particular corner and what kind of incentives will the oil company give that operator to put their sign there instead of somebody else and It's just the way the world works.
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Which is good, by the way. They're competing, and the operator benefits.
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It works very well. Bottom line is, no, the oil company doesn't own that. An owner-operator does, and sometimes it's a single owner-operator. Sometimes it's an owner-operator that might have several locations across town. Sometimes some guys might join forces, and they might own a dozen or more stations around town. Bottom line, though, thank you for stating this as a texter. Bottom line is, folks on the left believe the oil companies own these. They do not in most cases.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, number one, they don't own them. And number two, John, are your tax dollars paying for that? No. No! They are not. Okay.
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At a time when we have shortages of money in our budget. Let me answer it this way. In some cases, are my tax dollars paying for that? Well, directly, no. No. Now, does every business, gas stations, because this is what you always hear from the left, so I'll say it correctly. Every business... By the way, it doesn't matter who owns it.
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Has right off.
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Right, left, whatever. They all have depreciable assets.
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Obviously. That's just business.
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So when you have that gas station and you upgrade your pumps or your tanks or the nozzle or whatever, yes, there's things that you're doing as an operator that you get deductions for. And by the way, our tax code, for all of you that maybe don't know this on the left, the tax code is written in such a way that it encourages economic growth for certain types of deductions that actually make the economy move forward. Yeah, but that's not... Polis taking a bunch of tax dollars and just building things. No, that's not taking congressional dollars. Right. Which, by the way, they're not congressional dollars. There are dollars.
SPEAKER 03 :
There are dollars. It's all tax dollars. Look, he is taking congressional dollars. He's taking this money and putting it into charging stations for primarily wealthier people's cars. Yep.
SPEAKER 14 :
mid to upper level uh you know income people's cars and by the way when we have needs elsewhere that's not the market we've already proven that it is not the market again i live and breathe and eat and sleep and drink and grew up in that world and i will just tell you from all the coaching and other things i do yes there are some ev owners and yes i'm encouraging even some of my shops to learn how to work on some of them because the market's getting big enough that it behooves them to do so but by and large You know, Colorado is still an ICE-operated state. Internal combustion engine, gas or diesel, it's still that type of driving we have in this state. Oh, overwhelmingly. Oh, probably. I'd have to look it up. I think last I checked, Colorado has about an 8% or so saturation rate. I'd have to double-check. Some of you know what that rate is. Which is very high. Please let me know. But, yeah, it is as the state goes.
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But, you know, and here's the thing. We've got to keep in mind, it's very high at a little over 8%, right? But that's at a time... That's high as far as the national average goes, yes. That's at a time when nationally, and it's going to hit here, it's hitting here too, electric car sales, EV sales are plummeting.
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So vehicle sales have reached about 25% in Colorado, but that doesn't mean that's all... So be careful when you read these stats, by the way. Those are sales... You have to realize that the average fleet's about 13 years old. So just because one year you had 25% sales doesn't mean that 25% of the fleet is EV. So be careful when you read some of these because the press will try to mislead you in these things. Right. making it seem like there's more of them on the road than there is. There are not. That's my point. All right, I'll look up some more of those stats and bring those back to you in a moment so some of you actually have those and can talk about those around the water cooler. Safe boxes, by the way, great new sponsor of ours. I've talked about them here since yesterday, and it's a safety deposit box. It's a location that has all of them there. It's highly secure, and you can store more there than what you would at your normal bank. And by the way... In a lot of cases, banks are doing away with these. Anyways, they start at $15 a month, 303-771-8000.
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All right. I did the math. Found a vehicle registration counts by state. Now, this is 2023, so these numbers will be a little bit off for 2024, although not much. In fact, I'm going to be gracious. I'm going to be gracious to the EV owners and Governor Polis. Because I looked up how many registered EVs we have in 2024, but I don't have total registrations for gasoline and diesel vehicles. So I'm being very kind here, Andy. Okay. There's roughly 156,000 EVs registered in Colorado. That doesn't count plug-in hybrids and hybrid vehicles itself. This is just strictly EVs, so plug-in EVs. But the total of gasoline and diesel engines combined, diesel engine vehicles combined, is about 4.7 million. So if you do the math on that, EVs in Colorado make up about 3% is all of the vehicles that are on the road. So Governor Polis is basically telling Trump... that he is against the movement of people. Remember the quote that I read you? I'm going to go back and read that again so you all can hear this. The Trump administration is attacking, this is a quote from Governor Polis, is attacking the freedom to move, including the freedom to drive, and putting their own agenda above what Americans and the market are demanding. So you tell me, everybody listening, those of you even on the left, How is a 3% market share in Colorado and Trump now shutting down funding for those 3% of the individuals driving EVs? Who are wealthier on average. Correct. Either way. It doesn't even matter on that. I don't even care on that. Just saying. Well, Democrats care. In general, though. How is it that Trump is shutting down the freedom to move when it's only 3% of the population, which, by the way, I don't even know these stats because most people don't ask, but how many of them actually have other cars to drive besides an EV like myself? So then it's like, okay, well, wait a minute. You don't even count because you can get in something else and drive if you'd like to. You don't have to drive your EV. You can go drive your F-250 if you want to. So at the end of the day, my point is that number, that 156 on EV only drivers where they have nothing else to drive is probably even a fraction of that 156 K. So Polis's antics, which is all they are, they're talking points, antics and saying that Donald Trump and his administration is attacking the freedom to move. is a blatant lie of course and we as a colorado gop should be putting out bulletins on this informing everybody by the way of what i just said and the stats i just gave all of you and yet we're not right so when you're at the water cooler tomorrow or you're talking to a family member or whatever, and they start having this conversation about, well, yeah, Trump's trying to shut down all of this EV expansion as far as all of the charge stations and that go. You can give those same numbers I just gave you. And by the way, Colorado is one of the leading states. Let me go back to this chart. Colorado is one of the leading states For registered vehicles. California is the biggest, of course. $1,256,000 is what California has. And Florida, I believe, is the next biggest. And then we're right in line right after that. So we're like number three or four when it comes to EV owners in the country.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And Trump is saying, we don't want the taxpayer footing the bill for that 3%. How is that keeping people from moving?
SPEAKER 14 :
And somebody quickly could do the math because I can't do this in my head that quickly. There's roughly in the United States about 250,000 or sorry, 250 million registered vehicles. So 250 million registered vehicles. Total EVs in the United States of America in 2023, but I'm using 2023 ICE numbers as well. And by the way, 2024 wasn't a great year for EVs, but without being said, there's only 3.5 million EVs. So there's 250 million ICE vehicles on the road, and there's 3.5 million EVs is all. It is, again, folks, a fraction of total drivership that's out there, and yet you've got folks on the left, like Governor Polis, whining about Donald Trump cutting off funding, which we should be doing anyways. I was never a fan of it from the get-go. The whole transportation gouge on the American public, which is exactly what it was. It was an inflation act is what it really was when it was all said and done. The reality is paying for charge stations to the tunes of billions upon billions of dollars Coast to coast for a very small percentage of the population of drivers. Right. To subsidize your preferred little group. Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you know what? Governor Polis, that's what you're all about. You want government to subsidize all your preferred little groups. And this is just the latest one.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep. Folks, again, these are things hate to hound on our own party here, but these are the things in our state when a governor polis and we've got a governor's race coming up in two years, when we've got him coming out and saying absolute flat out lies. In fact, here's let me go one step further with our own Colorado GOP. Instead of, which the chair should be doing this, but let's say the chair is not very good on camera. Okay? Not everybody is. I'm not great on camera. I'm good on radio. I'm not good on camera. Don't know why. I just don't like it. Okay? So I'm not good on camera. So don't ask me to be on TV. It's not my thing. Don't want to be.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't even look at you while we're doing the show.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you. So point being, and follow me here, as a party, we're paying high-priced lawyers to defend stupid lawsuits. Okay? We have hired a basically anti-Rhino attorney. I don't know what his salary is going to be. I haven't seen the FEC reports yet, but I will find out on that. We would be better off to have hired a media person that the minute something like this happens, they can go to every single news station, hold a press conference, say, you know what? We're going to respond to what Governor Polis said about Trump yesterday on blah, blah, blah. And we want to hold a press conference. Everybody come down to the GOP headquarters because we're going to chat. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you know, the Michigan Republican Party does that.
SPEAKER 14 :
They're light on their feet. Boom. They got a statement. We should be doing that here. Yeah. But folks, again, please hear me when I say this. Even all of you that are against me and you think that I'm so anti-Dave, which I am. Because of what we're talking about right now. I'm anti-Dave because he doesn't lead the party. He's got his own agenda. He's only worried about Dave. He's not worried about the average, everyday Republican and or Coloradan, for that matter, that's in the state of Colorado. He's only worried about his own little circle. And honestly, at the end of the day, he's not even worried about them. He's only worried about him. And I'm proving it by the things I'm stating today, folks. I'm proving it. So if any of you out there think I'm wrong, prove it. Show me where I'm wrong. Text me. Email me. Give me the documents. Show me where I'm actually wrong, because everything I just said is what our party should be doing right now. And we're not. And by the way, I can tell you from all of the money... that we have spent on frivolous lawsuits, defending frivolous things, employing other attorneys and so on, you could have paid this media person, oh, 150 to 200K a year to do what I'm talking about very easily. Meaning we could have a pretty good paid media person to do this stuff. Yeah. So don't let the, well, we don't have any money for that fool you, because that's the other thing you'll hear coming out of this leadership.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my gosh. We can't afford that. Look at all the money they spent just avoiding a vote. Thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's upwards of $100,000. So, again, those of you that maybe don't like my rhetoric when it comes to these things, please listen to the things that I am saying in this regard and how we combat the left, which we're not doing at all. And I have to ask the question, why? Why? Hugo, I know you listen to me. Why, Hugo? Raymond, I know you listen as well. Why? Why are we not doing these things, guys? Why not? Ann is another one. I can go down the list.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because that has nothing to do with getting rhinos.
SPEAKER 14 :
Why are we not doing these things?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because it has nothing to do with hunting rhinos. It has nothing to do with feeding their rage.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's a bunch of BS, and you guys know it, by the way. Yeah. I'm calling you all out. It's a bunch of BS. None of you are thinking even the way that I just said we should be doing as a party. And I have to ask the question, why not? Why not? Why are we not doing this, folks? Right. I'll leave it at that. We'll come right back. Ridgeline Auto Brokers. Speaking of cars, EVs, all the things we just got done mentioning. Yes, Ridgeline will help you with your transportation needs, whatever they are. RidgelineAutoBrokers.com. Two locations to serve you. One in Boulder, one in Fort Collins.
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SPEAKER 11 :
It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Last segment that we've got here on Rush to Reason. Myself, Andy Pate. Appreciate you all joining us, by the way, today. The text messages have come in as well. And I know, I really rail at times on our own party here in Colorado and what we're not doing to move the football forward. But folks, I don't know any other way to bring awareness to this. And unless I can get awareness into the right areas and the right individuals, I don't see some of these things changing. And we will continue to lose the battle that we have going on in Colorado. And believe me, our freedom... And what we do here in Colorado, in my opinion, matters. The amount of property tax that you guys are paying matters. Your Tabor refund matters. The budget crisis, which they call it that in Colorado, which, by the way, it's not, matters. Education in Colorado matters. Gun control in Colorado and what they keep running there matters. I can go down the list, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
How about winning four House seats this time around? They matter, Andy. Which the state party did nothing to help. Look, all four of those candidates have come out and said they didn't help. They're divisive.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, in fact, if anything, they hurt them. They did hurt them. That's the issue. They would have won better. They hurt them. So, yes, folks, this is near and dear to me because I want to see us start moving the football forward. And as I've said a hundred times on the show, I said it even when Dave wasn't chairman, I hate losing. Yeah. Ask anybody that knows me. I hate losing. And we lose far too much here in Colorado as a party. And frankly, folks, the frustrating part for me is there's no reason for it. It'd be one thing if we had everything going in the right direction, the machine was working great, and all of a sudden we just lose because of whatever. But that's not the case, folks.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, we're obviously going to lose a fair amount because of the incredible influx of blue state voters over the last couple decades. Absolutely. I understand. We're in a blue state.
SPEAKER 14 :
I get that, too, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I get how it became blue. I understand that. What I don't understand is... is a state party leadership that literally campaigns against its own candidates, that literally launches websites called Rhino Watch that attack their own people.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know why? Because in their eyes, you and I don't, and those people don't pass the purity test. Right. That's why. That's why. That's really what it boils down to. By the way, for those of you listening, it's a purity test that Christ himself couldn't pass. Well, and it's also... Let me explain. Oh, go ahead. Let me explain. It's a purity test that Jesus Christ himself, our Lord and Savior, if he was here on earth right now, could not pass their purity test. And here's why. Because Christ associates with everyone. Christ makes friends with everyone. Christ will go to dinner with anyone. Christ did all sorts of things that the hardcore Pharisees accused him of being a heretic over, and basically they hung him on the cross for it, by the way, when it was all said and done. I hate to say this, our own GOP party today would do the same thing to him all over again. They probably would. Because he doesn't pass their purity test. No. Am I right, Andy?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah, and the thing that really gets me is when you really get down to their purity test, and not the one that they put out. They didn't even care about that. Trump wouldn't have made it on there. Their main purity test has nothing to do with any of your values, your priorities, your beliefs, your... It doesn't matter. Pick a topic. What it all has to do with is your loyalty. Right. Right. Okay, how loyal are you to Dave Williams? How loyal are you to, you know, Matt Gaetz? How loyal are you to, of course, the biggie, Donald Trump? And it's just like, you know, and here you and I, they call us a rhino. Folks, you want to know why we get called rhinos? Because while John and I look at Donald Trump and say, yeah, we're loving every day of this. Yeah, go baby, go MAGA. We also say he's a lousy debater. And we would overhaul entitlements. So we don't actually agree with Trump 100%. That, to them, makes us traitors.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Traitors. Correct. Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because at times we've actually said, you know what? Yeah, Trump's a phenomenal president, but we had some other candidates who would win bigger. And they would. Okay? There have been times when other candidates would win bigger. Sorry, the polls showed it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. But they don't care. With all that being said, he is. We're still behind him. We want to see everything happen that he's doing moving forward. We're very much in favor of the things that he's doing right now. Does that mean that I'm always 100% in favor of the things he does and how he does it? I said this on the podcast last week. I would not, if I was Donald Trump, for example... I would not have come out after the plane crash that soon and have blamed that on DEI. You've got people whose families have, you know, somebody just passed away in the family. Yeah, it was a bad move. I would not be pointing blame at that point in time on DEI. Now, there's a lot of you hardcore righties that would say, oh, no, John, that's exactly the right time to do it. Yeah, no, it's pretty insensitive, actually.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, let me tell you this. Grading someone's conservatism by the level of their loyalty to a person, that's a religion.
SPEAKER 14 :
That is not a political movement. Well, and that's where I go back to using Christ as the example. Other than his own heavenly father, was Christ that way at all, Andy? Did he pay homage to Caesar or anybody along those lines whatsoever? Nope. Any one particular person, even?
SPEAKER 11 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
Did he eat with the tax collectors, which, by the way, were the most evil of evil at the time? Yeah. Did he hang out with prostitutes? Yep. Did he do all sorts of things that the higher-end folks, you know, the more pious—they weren't Christians then, but the more pious Jews at that time—did he do things they didn't like? Yes. And did they crucify him over it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, they served him up. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
The Romans crucified him, but they served him up, right? Right, right. In fact, they had a choice. And I'm not trying to get all spiritual on you guys, but they had a choice at one point. Do you want Christ or do you want Barabbas? Which one do you want? Barabbas. Thank you, Andy. Yeah, yeah. So at the end of the day, didn't they really put him on the cross themselves? I mean, I know we all did. Our sins did. I get that. But in essence, they contributed greatly.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I took a lot of heat today on Facebook because I talked about the Davidians, how they've taken over the party. And people are like, oh, man, you're equating us to a Waco cult and all this. Yeah. Look. And? Well, I don't know that they're going to start drinking strange punch.
SPEAKER 14 :
Time out. Some would, Andy. I've talked to some of these people.
SPEAKER 03 :
Some would. Look, John, these folks who support Dave, okay? They literally grade your conservatism not on your policies that you believe, right? Not on your beliefs, but rather on your loyalties to one person or another, right? That is a religion that is not a political movement. Number two, they are absolutely incapable of defending Dave in debate. The second you come and say, okay, well, he did this and this and this and this, and what do you do? They can't defend any of it. They run away and hide, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
All of what I've said today, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, this is what cult members do. Correct. Cult members do that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Every one of them should be listening to the things I said today in regards to some of the things that happened lately with Weiser and, by the way, Griswold, even the snafu she had during the election and the ballots and different things along those lines, or the leaks, I should say, on the BIOS numbers and everything. You know, password numbers and so on, or the passwords themselves, I should say. Polis and what he just said. Again, if we were more worried about communicating as a party and holding press conferences and things along those lines, instead of hiring attorneys out the wazoo, three, mind you, or let's see, a firm, a single individual, and now one on staff.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but cult members don't care about strategies like that.
SPEAKER 14 :
By the way, we have to be the most lawyered-up GOP party in the country. It's all lawyers. Unbelievable. They spent all their money on lawyers. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which, by the way, they were not spending it on candidates. Okay? I'm telling you what, man. I don't know. I... What does it do to you, John, when you look at Trump? He's just doing great. He's doing awesome. Hitting home runs every day, every day. It's fantastic. You know that the red wave, he is not only raising the popularity of himself, he's raising the popularity of the GOP, and he is crushing the popularity of the Democrats right now. They're at their lowest point. OK, their unfavorability. They're at a negative 26 right now. I've never seen a party hit that. OK, they are hated and they're going to be more hated as Elon starts leaking more and more stuff that they've been doing with our money. OK, and you see Trump doing this and just riding this incredible red wave. And then you look here. And you look at our priorities here.
SPEAKER 14 :
What does it do to you? Frustration. I think you could see today even just my frustration level is at an absolute all-time high with not only our state and our state party, but the Democrats, what they're doing to the state, reading these things about Polis today, and the fact that he's flat-out lying to the public, and a certain amount of those people will listen to him and understand, or will listen and believe that, partially because... We're not countering it at all, Andy. We have no voice in this state whatsoever to counter that. None.
SPEAKER 05 :
Zero.
SPEAKER 14 :
Zilch. Yeah. And it's a shame because we have the resources. We have the money. We have the ability. There's no reason why we're not. We're just so, I hate to say it this way, so inbred right now that we can't see beyond that. I don't know how this, I don't know how to say it. I'm at a loss of words. This is a dire note.
SPEAKER 03 :
We need to be more upbeat.
SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
We don't yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. I also had a little fun in my own neighborhood over in the Arvada area and did a post today on some things regarding a development that is trying to get put through. And so I might talk about that a little bit more tomorrow. One of you actually must be a part of that group and saw it and were commenting. So I may talk about that a little bit more tomorrow. Just as a side note. I will always be the property rights owner's advocate, no matter what the rest of the neighborhood and people around think, because I believe in personal property rights. If you take those away from folks in America, we've lost. Yep. I agree. If you let the masses, if you let the democracy rule and the majority rule and don't allow people their own property rights and what they want to do on it, in this case, it's a commercial property that's been zoned that way for about 40 years. If you take that away, shame on you. Agreed. So we'll talk more about that tomorrow. Guys, have a great night. Be safe out there. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
