The Supreme Court has ruled in favor of reinforcing the limits to judicial authority, a decision that affirms the foundational aspects of American governance. This episode explores the backdrop of the case, the role played by the ACLJ, and the broader implications for future administrations. Hear firsthand accounts from those involved in drafting the influential amicus brief and learn about the nuanced perspectives of the dissenting justices. This is a must-listen for anyone interested in understanding the complexities of judicial influence in national governance.
SPEAKER 07 :
We got breaking news. The ACLJ team is celebrating a massive win at the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 09 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome to Sekulow for this Friday. And we do have some real big breaking news. You've been following this case for a long time. We have had lawyers on. We've had members of our team on. And this is a big win at the Supreme Court of the United States. Of course, you remember ACLJ was representing. West Virginia and the West Virginia Attorney General J.B. McCuskey he'll be joining us later on to discuss this win and my dad Jay Sekula will break down the opinion in the next segment so you're not going to want to miss today's show you know a lot of times they say we go on here we want to talk about what's going on and now today we have a big victory so it's a good time to celebrate Well, let's break down this case because this is the important one. This is one about the judges. People have been concerned about the judges having way too much strength to shut down a president's agenda. And it looks like, and we'll get into the nuance of it, but it looks like we were right in that situation.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. So this case, and you'll see in the headlines if you're reading online and everything, the birthright citizenship case is what all the media is putting the headlines behind. But in reality, this had nothing to do with the merits of that case, with that executive order on birthright citizenship. What the government took to the Supreme Court was the issue of these nationwide injunctions. Basically, a district judge being able to completely halt the executive branch's policy in perpetuity with just the stroke of a pen by issuing an order saying this is a nationwide injunction while it goes through the court system.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. over and over again. We saw it unlike any other presidency in history where all of a sudden, every time President Trump went to go make a move, a random judge, is what it felt like, a random judge in a random district could halt it all. And of course, the American people, eyes were opened. They said, this can't be how it's supposed to be. And Supreme Court had a six to three decision, correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. Six to three decision. This was authored by Amy Coney Barrett. And it's a wonderful opinion. We'll get into it. But it is based off. history, the Constitution, the rule of law. And we'll also get into some of the things that the dissenters, that would be Sotomayor, Kagan, and Justice Jackson, had to say about this. It's kind of shocking, but we'll get into that as well. We have your dad coming up in the next segment to talk about this opinion and the role we played in it as well, as well as the Attorney General of West Virginia, J.B. McCuskey, will be joining us a little bit later on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, that's right. So we're going to have a packed first half hour and I'm going to want to hear from you as well at 1-800-684-3110. President Trump has been speaking right now. We're going to pull some of the bites that he's speaking on right now when it deals with this specifically. He just said that this ruling brings back the Constitution. That's very President Trump. thing to say but i do think there should be some celebratory moments here when you realize supreme court of the united states isn't just going to take it and they're not just going to uh really relieve only to give judges unilateral control over our government um this is a big big win and again even there are some direct things that come from the work of the aclj we'll discuss as well so when you're like hey how the aclj was evolved we'll talk about that next segment and see how it directly impacts when you support the work of the aclj how it can directly impact the Supreme Court of the United States, because we filed a brief, and that brief was pretty much quoted throughout this. So we're going to discuss that coming up. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. And look, this should be a bipartisan matter. It has nothing to do with, as Will said, whether you agree with birthright citizenship, don't believe in birthright citizenship. It's more, should the President of the United States, Republican or Democrat, have the ability to do what President Trump was attempting to do? And the Supreme Court from a six to three decision, said absolutely. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Again, a huge win. In fact, the entire Supreme Court term has been a huge win for us, undefeated at the ACLJ. And today, like we said, Supreme Court issued that major decision. It's a big win for the Constitution. It's a big win for us at the ACLJ. Let's celebrate today, and you can celebrate with us by joining and becoming an ACLJ champion right now or just becoming a donor at ACLJ.org. I'm going to encourage you to do that. Know that these are big moments, and we can't do it without you. Join today. Become a champion. We'll be right back with my dad, Jay Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. Of course, we are celebrating a big win. I think we need to restate, Will, what's happening. And my dad, Jay Sekulow, he's on the phone. We're joining him live to really break down the opinion. But let's go over it for those just joining right now. And if you are just joining right now, I encourage you, share this show with your friends. Hit that thumbs up if you're watching on YouTube. Comment. We need to make sure people know this and they can see this because we have been fighting for this for months and months where President Trump has, you know, had all of these rogue judges who were able to somehow dictate the law of the land, the federal government, it feels like we're able to step in in a way that felt unconstitutional because of the way it was being targeted at President Trump. Supreme Court ruled that it seems like they agree with us on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. This was a 6-3 decision authored by Justice Barrett. The dissenters were Justice Sotomayor, Justice Kagan and Justice Jackson, the three liberal members of the court. And in what Barrett's opinion held was that some say the universal injunction gives the judiciary a powerful tool to check the executive branch. But federal courts do not exercise general oversight of the executive branch. They resolve cases and controversies consistent with the authority Congress has given them. We're going to go to Chief Counsel of the ACLJ, Jay Sekulow. And what is your first thought on this very important case?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, first of all, this is a big win for the administration. It's a big win for us. In fact, the argument that we put forward was used in large part by Justice Barrett in her majority opinion. And here's what the court said. So you've got a situation where the president's executive actions and other actions were being challenged by citizens of various locales. And then the court, instead of saying, well, we'll apply an injunction as to those people, they were doing it for the entire country. And there's no precedent in our history, and this is what Justice Barrett pointed out, and we pointed out too, There's no history precedent for this action. Zero. None. So when you look at it that way and realize what's at play, this was a 100 percent victory. It stops these rogue judges from issuing nationwide injunctions. I mean, a U.S. district court judge could stop the administration dead in its tracks on for the whole country. And the court said that's not the way our system set up. That's not the way jurisdictions set up. That's not the way the Constitution works.
SPEAKER 08 :
And when you look at the ruling, and I think this is important for the audience to hear, because we think of Supreme Court arguments, you hear the two sides deliver oral argument. But as you say many times, a lot of times the Supreme Court decisions aren't won during the oral argument. And that is why at the ACLJ we engage in these types of filing amicus briefs putting forward the briefing for the justices, which is a large part of how they write their opinions. And when you see in this one, the arguments that ACLJ was making about rule 26 of the federal judiciary, as well as even some of the phraseology, like the historical pedigree that was used in the opinion was a phrase that we were using in our own brief. You can start to understand why the briefing is, is so important for these justices as they come to their opinions on the law.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that's exactly correct. And look, we've been at this for 45 years. And the truth of the matter is this. Our briefs are frequently cited by the courts, utilized by the courts. And this was a perfect example of it. It came out exactly as we anticipated and we were hopeful for. And it's the perfect decision in the sense that it curtails the ability of these judges. to stop the administration's actions for the entire country. They could do it for their district. They can't do it for the plaintiffs that's in front of them, but not for the whole country. And that makes a big difference in how these things move forward.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I wanted to talk about that too, because this is something that's going to be setting precedent. A lot of people Think about the fact that President Trump is currently in office as President Trump. This isn't just for President Trump. This is for future Republicans and Democrats, because if you could play this game, it will be endless. It would have been an endless battle for every administration, maybe for the history of time at that point where nothing could get done. It's another way that these judges and really, honestly, the activists can figure out how to stop even what the American people are voting for.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's exactly... Exactly correct. And here's the reality of what's happened. This put a check on the judiciary, which again coincides with the constitutional directives of a unitary executive. The president makes these decisions. A judge could stop it, but only for their district. No more universal jurisdiction. It wasn't good if Republicans did it. It's not good if Democrats do it. It should not happen.
SPEAKER 07 :
To break it down just a little bit more for those who are just tuning in right now. So overall, because of course, if you start reading one of these wins, you start reading one of the opinions from the Supreme Court. If you're not used to reading the opinions, it can get a little murky. So I was reading it, starting to read it, and I jumped to the bottom to go, okay, who voted for it? Because I think that can be a pretty good indication of who voted for what and whether they were being a little bit more nuanced in it. But for those who are just reading this, what I guess would be the big win takeaways, and is there anything we need to be looking out for in terms of the way these opinions are written?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, the big win takeaway is that an individual judge can't stop the actions of the administration for the entire country. That's over. So this judge shopping that they're doing is finished. And that's really important. And what this means is the president can exercise his authority under Article 2. The court's Article 3 authority is checked in the sense that their jurisdiction is limited to what Congress authorized. Congress did not authorize universal jurisdiction. There was no history or precedent. It's over.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sometimes, as Logan's talking about, you read and when especially when the opinions are rooted in the law and they are going through the history and things, sometimes you do have to parse out, OK, how big of a win is this? You know, is this very limited to this one case or is it broad? But sometimes you can jump to the dissents and get a real full picture of. of how big of a win it is based off how upset the more liberal philosophically minded justices are. And I wanted to read this from Justice Jackson's dissent, who has actually surprised us many times by voting in the way of the conservatives, especially on the immunity decision where she was joining the conservatives in that. But she had this to say about this opinion. Perhaps the degradation of our rule of law regime would have happened anyway, but this court's complicity in the creation of a culture of disdain for lower courts, their rulings, and the law, as they interpret it, will surely hasten the downfall of our governing institutions, enabling our collective demise. I don't think I've read something so apocalyptic in a dissent before, but maybe I'm wrong. It's hilarious. First of all, it's a procedural decision.
SPEAKER 10 :
And it's a good procedural decision. It says courts can't exercise universal jurisdiction. That makes total sense. But to say this is the end of the rule of law, we know it, is nonsense. I mean, totally incorrect. Great decision by Justice Barrett. Good win for the administration. Good win for us. We're thrilled.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Thank you, Dan, for joining us again. Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ. In the next segment, we're going to hear from J.B. McCuskey, Will, Attorney General of West Virginia. And he was directly involved in our suit here. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
We worked with the Attorney General's Office of West Virginia. And in the brief that we filed was on behalf of the state of West Virginia. So both the Attorney General and his Solicitor General, as well as our team's names, are all on the front of the brief. And the brief... of amicus curiae state of west virginia in support of the applicants is the title of our brief so it's a win for not just the aclj and all of our members but as well as a client in this the state of west virginia that was concerned about the implications of these district judges not just on the administration but how people could then go and forum shop to get nationwide injunctions to try and block things that individual states were doing and trying to almost have state warfare, economic warfare or lawfare against other states by the way that injunctions could be placed and handed down. And so we'll get the take of Attorney General McCuskey in the next segment. Very busy time for the Attorney General. He's able to join us. So that's going to be great to have him joining us in the next segment.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right, so stay tuned for that, and then we're going to take your calls and comments. If you're on hold already, stay on hold. We do have a few lines still open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Once again, a huge win, a huge day for the ACLJ. Friday, you never know what you're going to get on Friday. Sometimes we're having more fun on this show. Sometimes we want to play you some best stops because we had such amazing content this week and last week, and we did have some amazing content, but we decided we had, when this decision came out at 9-0-1, this morning central time 10 eastern time we said hey we have to do this our aclj supporters aclj champions have been waiting for this moment all of our listeners have been waiting for this moment so i hope you join us and again these victories only happen because of you and i know i say that and you may be like that sounds just like words but it's not true or it is true We need your support to bring on the best of the best. And the best of the best, we're just able to deliver a big victory. A big victory that's gonna set precedent probably for the rest of our life. which is amazing. And we can't do it without you. And we're going to hear from Attorney General JB McCuskey from West Virginia coming up in just a few moments. But again, phone lines are open for you, and I'd love to hear from you. So if you want to call in, great time to do it. Get in line, 1-800-684-3110. The back half of the show, second half hour, I'm going to take as many of your calls as I can. I loved doing that yesterday. Let's do it again today. 1-800-684-3110. Fill up those phone lines. And let's answer your questions about this topic, by the way, or any of the topics that we have discussed all week or that are in the news. We'd love to hear from you. Again, at 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back with Attorney General McCuskey. Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110, 1-800-684-3110. We're joined by Attorney General of West Virginia, J.B. McCuskey, who has obviously been deeply involved in this case through our entire run here at the ACLJ. Of course, he's an ACLJ alum as well. But J.B., I want to get your initial feelings coming after this big win.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, this is a really good one. You know, while we didn't get to the merits of the actual underlying question, the Supreme Court held very sternly that these nationwide injunctions need to stop and that they are unconstitutional. They do exceed the scope of what our district courts are allowed to do, and they are politicizing the courts in a way that is very dangerous, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat doing it. And so we are just tickled. And the best part about this is that much of the language used in the amicus that we co-drafted with you guys was relied upon by the court and they're holding it. So we're really happy about this one.
SPEAKER 07 :
to read those and always see what the ACLJ can do and what your team has done because when I look at this and you're right this is something bipartisanship should overtake this win not just a President Trump win not just a Attorney General West Virginia win because this is going to set precedent for the rest of our life whether you're Republican or Democrat and look if you agree like we agree that shouldn't matter in this sense that it's a it's not a partisan win one way or the other but Will I know you got something you want to share.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And JB, you may have not seen this yet. I know that you probably were pouring over the dissents just to see what the justices, the three liberal justices had to say on this opinion. But there is a line I want to get your take on, especially as someone who is an attorney general of a state who is very much lives by the rule of law in your everyday proceedings as that officer of the state. And Justice Jackson had this to say in her dissent. Perhaps the degradation of our rule of law regime would happen anyway, but this court's complicity in the creation of a culture of disdain for lower courts, their rulings, and the law as they interpret it, will surely hasten the downfall of our governing institutions, enabling our collective demise. Is that the feeling you get from this ruling, Attorney General?
SPEAKER 11 :
I generally don't feel like our country is spiraling into chaos when we uphold the constitutional framework that was set up by the framers, for sure. You know, honestly, it feels a little on the nose, if I'm being honest. I mean, that is a pretty lengthy and weighty thing to say about district courts being able to issue nationwide injunctions. That is probably what prompted... The small response to that language by Amy Comey Barrett, too, if I had to guess.
SPEAKER 08 :
And normally you don't see within opinions like that, within the body of the opinion, a direct smackdown, so to speak. And that's what the attorney general's referencing is that this was written by Justice Barrett. We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself. We observe only this. Justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial judiciary.
SPEAKER 07 :
it feels almost, uh, you know, uh, like the time of the founders, like the way they would talk to each other via the news, through the papers, like it's, it's just kind of, uh, it's humorous, but it's not, but it is humorous to read this like end of the world, apocalyptic language, right? When it comes down to whether judges have the right to, uh, make these kinds of decisions. Uh, JB I'm very excited that we were able to wrap this up also so quickly and that the ACLJ team was able to jump in and help you out because we're going to show a little bit later if you've been watching on social you've seen some of the clips already but you and Jordan were so actively involved in this you were there at the court really just being when the ACLJ team can get behind something like this it really shows how amazing the work can be done
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. And this is sort of the reason why you build coalitions, right, is to make sure that you have all of the skill you need to do big things. And this is a really, really big win, not just for obviously West Virginia, but this is a big win for our country. This is this scourge of nationwide injunctions was only going to get worse. And we had to step in and do something. And I'm just really thankful that we were able to play a part in this. And even more thankful for the six majority judges who agreed with us.
SPEAKER 08 :
JB, thank you so much for joining us. I know that you've got a lot going on, a lot on your plate. It's not like you just sit around and read opinions from the Supreme Court all day. So thank you for joining us, being able to on quick notice when we got this out. Your team is wonderful to work with. We appreciate them and appreciate you joining us on the broadcast today.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I don't have to read those things, Will. I have you for that.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. Just like old times.
SPEAKER 11 :
You guys have a great day, and we are pouring through this decision, and it really is a good one. And we've got a whole bunch more that came out today that we can talk about next week.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, JB. Thank you so much for joining us. Attorney General JB McCuskey from West Virginia. We're able to have such amazing guests like JB, who, again, who also are ACLJ alumni, people that have been part of the team. throughout the years and it's really uh encouraging to go to this next step and be able to see how our team has been able to now influence the supreme court of the united states once again for another generation and again that doesn't happen without your support i do want to take some phone calls also and i want to hear from president trump because i know that he has been speaking about this you want to play something from trump let's go ahead this is from the press conference he uh moments ago
SPEAKER 08 :
announced early, as soon as this came out, this decision by the Supreme Court that there would be a press conference with him and the Attorney General and Todd Blanch as well. And so this is a bite from early in the press conference that's still ongoing, but let's go ahead and roll bite six.
SPEAKER 01 :
I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months we've seen a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers. It was a grave threat to democracy, frankly, and instead of merely ruling on the immediate cases before them, these judges have attempted to dictate the law for the entire nation. In practice, this meant that if any one of the nearly 700 federal judges disagreed with the policy of a duly elected president of the United States, he or she could block that policy from going into effect or at least delay it for many years, tie it up in the court system. This was a colossal abuse of power which never occurred in American history prior to recent decades. And we've been hit with more nationwide injunctions than were issued in the entire 20th century.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, again, that was from President Trump. Look, in the next half hour, I'm going to hear from a lot of you and a lot of you have called in right now. So if you're on hold right now, Dion, Martin, Brad, John, we've got two that are currently being screened right now. Stay on hold. I'm going to get to you guys as early as I can in this back half because I want to keep hearing from you because these are the moments. President Trump right now, he is taking questions about this right now. So we're going to go through and make sure that we pull anything that is necessary or you feel like we feel like you need to hear it. But again, we have a second half hour coming up. And in that second half hour, we've now heard from my dad, Jay Sekulow, our chief counsel. We have now heard from attorney general of West Virginia who was involved in this, J.B. McCuskey. And now we get to hear from you. Like I always say, the most important voice in the room. Because you all dictate a lot of what we get to do here. Because without your support, we're not able to get involved in these cases. We're not able to go and get these big wins. What's the big difference about the ACLJ and a lot of other organizations? We don't just go and do anything. and ask you for money. We make real legal strategy here. If we didn't think there was a chance of winning, we may not have gotten involved. But the ACLJ team is smart. And they know what to do. And they know how to word things. And they know how to get things done. And our record speaks for itself. Because this entire term, we are undefeated. Undefeated at the Supreme Court of the United States this year. pretty wild okay we can't do that without you because without you we can't bring on the best of the best so i encourage you as we head into the second half hour you don't get us on your local station we're broadcasting live on aclj.org the aclj app youtube rumble however you get your podcast we are there of course you can catch us on later on archived but right now support the work of the aclj become a champion we've got a big few months ahead of us we could really use your support right now this is less than a minute break let's So do it right now while you can. Scan that QR code. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 09 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome to the second half-hour of Sekulow.
SPEAKER 08 :
We should try that again. Second half-hour. Yeah, you started a little rough off there. How dare you? Well, it's Friday. Fri-yay! Is that a thing you do normally? Fri-yay?
SPEAKER 07 :
After the show. I like it. Not for the first, not until 1 p.m. Eastern time. And then, yes, and then I take off this jacket. I relax. It's cool. Because right now, I'm heated up right now, Will, because we got a big win, a big beautiful Friday, big beautiful win. And that, of course, is that President Trump and our team, the ACLJ team and our friends in West Virginia, you know, we were involved in that Supreme Court case saying, I don't know, maybe these rogue judges can't just get involved in and stop all of what President Trump wants to do because they happen to be a judge in a local district. It was absurd. We all knew it was absurd. Even people I feel like on the left knew it was absurd because you start doing this for Republicans, you're going to start doing it for Democrats. So next time there's a Democrat president, guess what's going to happen? They're going to go judge shop some Republican judges, some conservative leading judges. And nothing will ever get done. Which is precisely what Washington wants, by the way. They want nothing to get done so they can fundraise on you and they can say we're going to go do stuff. Because if you actually get a resolution, what are we going to talk about? What's going to happen? We don't play politics here at the ACLJ. We actually take care of the American people. And that's what we do. I want to take a call real quick off the top because a lot of people are asking this same question. So let's go to Brad. Brad's calling in Fairfax, Virginia on line three. Brad, you're on the air. Hi, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can you hear me? We can hear you. Fantastic. Okay. Actually, fast two questions. Does this particular CASA case only prevent nationwide injunctions going forward, or does it also apply to the nationwide injunctions that have already been levied retroactively?
SPEAKER 07 :
the second question pause you there because I want to answer that one because that one is one and we'll do our best to get back to your second question because this is one that a lot of people are asking essentially does this retroactively go back and nullify those the answer is yes and no no off the top but it can be done very quickly
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. So what will need to happen in those individual cases is the government will need to go and file a motion to have the injunction lifted in light of the Supreme Court ruling. So it's not like they just disappear and vanish. Now, we will see. if the plaintiffs or if the judges try to get clever or try to come up with something. But that is what will need to happen is that they will go back to these other injunctions, file a motion based off the Supreme Court decision, and go forward from there. And it should remove the injunction pretty quickly, as we're seeing happened in this one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, hopefully that answers your first question. What's your second question? We'll do our best to answer it.
SPEAKER 08 :
is this i read that it was a partial stay what about this case um what does that mean in this case all right we do have an answer for that right so it's a partial stay because the court affirmed that injunctions in the specific matter are something courts can do so for the individual plaintiff They can issue the injunction against the policy being used against that person while the disposition of the case continues, while they get to the merits, while they appeal it out. So where it was only a partial stay. is that the universality of the injunction is what was stayed, and that individuals can still seek an injunction against the government going forward, but it's not for, oh, because this one person's bringing the claim, we're going to apply it to every single person on the planet going forward until it makes its way through the Supreme Court. So that's why it's partial stay, not the injunction individually is still there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hopefully that answers all your questions. Brad, thanks for calling. We will now have two and a half lines open. This one person's being screened. You never know if they're going to make it. 1-800-684-3110. Again, I want to keep hearing from you throughout this half hour. I like to get all of your voices, all of your opinions. If you agree with us, you disagree with us, I don't care. I want to hear from you. Just be kind to our phone screener. That's all I ask. You don't even have to be kind to me. Just be kind to them. You're not kind to them. I don't think you're going to make it to me. That's how it works, man. Hopefully they're doing their job. Well, we'll see. We'll find out, won't we? We'll see. I don't know who's phone screening today. I do. Well, you know what? They got to be careful. Phone lines are open for you. 1-800-684-3110. We're going to hear from you again. Check out all the great free content we have at ACLJ.org. And that's because there's no paywall on our content. Welcome back to Secular. We do have some phone lines. Well, not really open right now, but they will open up at 1-800-684-3110. Again, I want to hear from you after this big win from the Supreme Court of the United States and our ACLJ team, our ACLJ. And by the way, I mean team, I mean you as well. ACLJ champions and supporters are really get a round of applause today because of their hard work. And we actually have – I'm going to play for you a little bit later a bit that happened at the Supreme Court, right outside of the Supreme Court. My brother and JB, so you can kind of see what happens. Remember, our offices, our headquarters in Washington, D.C., our legal headquarters, is directly across the street from the Supreme Court of the United States, just on the corner there. So they're able to go be a part of this. That's a little bit different with our organization as well. We have – Two big headquarters here in Tennessee and Nashville, where there is sort of this media hub that is being built right now for so many people like us. And it's been amazing. I've lived here for a very, very long time. And then also our Washington, D.C. office, which, of course, is where our legal headquarters is. And that's very important as well to make sure we are in the thick of it for both the equal parts media and law. We can't do that without you. We can't have these amazing facilities. We can't do the show and all of that. But I want to make sure you see a little inside look of what happened there.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I also want to bring up when you say we're in the thick of it, how in the thick of it we are. When yesterday we actually mentioned there was a victory at the Supreme Court where states can effectively defund Planned Parenthood. We had filed in that case. It was a big win for protecting taxpayers from having their money spent on Planned Parenthood. And the South Carolina Department of Health and Human Services was excluding Medicaid dollars from Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood sued, saying you can't take our money away. And the outcome of that was a victory for life and for the taxpayer. Of not having their money go to Planned Parenthood. Like I said, we filed in that case. Well, as as happens in front of the Supreme Court, there were protesters. There were people actually that were pro-life advocates that were celebrating the victory. And then there were pro-abortion protesters that were there. So this is a case we'd filed in and had just received a victory. And people we know, Reverend Pat Mahoney, who has been a client of the ACLJs for decades, since really the founding, was there with a group of pro-life advocates that were excited. They were celebrating the victory. And an individual, a pro-abortion protester, came up and got in the face of some of the friends and colleagues of Pat Mahoney and And began spitting on them, getting in their face, smacked the wife of the client's phone to the ground, and then fell over and started screaming that she, this person, had been assaulted by the pro-life advocate. The Capitol Hill police immediately arrested this individual. Reverend Pat Mahoney called us at the ACLJ. Our offices are right across the street from the Supreme Court. And our attorneys jumped into action. We're able to review footage from other individuals there that were celebrating this victory. We're able to get on the phone and we're able to get this individual out of jail immediately. rather quickly for a false arrest charge now where you still have to fight and the disposition of the case because there was a charge of assault but it was a false arrest and because we are there in that location we were able to get a phone call and our attorneys immediately jumped into action to get an individual out of jail do we have that clip i mean this is from reverend
SPEAKER 07 :
Pat Mahoney he sent us a clip to show again this is on the streets so of course this is like shot with a phone but I think it's fun to see we've represented Reverend Mahoney my entire life you know I've known him our entire life he's someone who has been a consistent voice for the pro-life movement uh someone who has never wavered i will say that someone who may not be your most traditional conservative he may not be your republican uh but he has been someone who has been the biggest fighter for life and i really respect everything he has done he's been arrested more times than any of us could count uh in pursuit of keeping babies alive let's hear from reverend mahoney
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, blessings. I'm Reverend Patrick Mahoney. And first of all, I want to thank the American Center for Law and Justice. They're always there when you need them. We had a dear friend at a pro-life demonstration at the Supreme Court, a significant victory as the Supreme Court voted to allow South Carolina to defund Planned Parenthood. And as often is the case, pro-choice demonstrators came out. They were spitting on us. They were pushing on us. They were assaulting us. And they accused one of our pro-life demonstrators of physically attacking them. Tragically, they were arrested. But guess what? We sent up the bat signal for the ACLJ. We're outside the jail right now. waiting for him to be released, and I just want to tell everyone we are so thankful for attorneys who are principled and caring, who support free speech, who support constitutional freedoms, and my dear brother would probably still be in jail if they hadn't intervened. So God bless, and we're waiting shortly for him to come out and greet us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Of course, again, that was from Reverend Patrick Mahoney. He's been a fighter for life, like I said, my entire life and has been a good friend of the ACLJ. But it's always nice to see him out there when we can get a big win. And those wins, Will, you actually have a bit of an update.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. So from our attorneys, I mentioned, you know, there may be things that... linger that after this arrest no charges filed against the client uh so our attorneys boldly were able to go in there we're able to do a quick on the ground investigation by looking at video footage and seeing what happened and able to not only get him released from jail but have no charges against him that is a big win quick win uh that that we wouldn't have even had time to tell you about on the show on the comment saying throw out the bad signal yeah that's
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly right. That's what our team's able to do. And again, longtime friends and allies have just been so important to the ACLJ over our 35 plus years of existence. I can find footage of Reverend Mahoney younger than I am right now as part of this team. And it's always great to hear from him and to see him. I do want to take a couple of calls. And then in the next segment, we'll even discuss more of what happened and how our team was involved with this big win out of the Supreme Court of the United States. Let's go, though. Let's go in maybe order. Some people might hold for a while. Dion, a little off, but all right. Dion in Seattle, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, congrats, guys, on your big win. I was really getting hurt with these courts trying to block everything the president's doing. But I'm praying for your father. I hope he's doing well, really.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's doing well. You heard him on the show earlier on. Make sure you stay tuned. But thank you. What's your question?
SPEAKER 02 :
May I digress a bit to something else? It's the economy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, we could try. Let's see where we're going to go from here. What's your question?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I'm not sure how – I hear the big, beautiful bills having trouble in the Senate. That concerns me. The economy concerns me. And I'm wondering when we're going to start getting our oil drilled here in the country so we can get something done before the – midterms so we could actually show we're getting stuff done and give them less to, you know, attack.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Dion, today is a win for that, though, remember, because obviously President Trump can now go ahead and do a lot of the things that he was being stopped from doing. So take that win today. It's good. A lot of people have issues with the big, beautiful bill. Look, I mean, you saw a big fight that happened between Elon Musk and President Trump and all of that fallout from that. That's not necessarily what's driving the sort of delays. But whenever you're talking about a bill that has to do with spending and cuts, it's never as easy as it seems.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right, because the big beautiful bill is budget reconciliation. So it essentially has to be revenue neutral. When they cut from something or add a program here, they have to pull from something else. So that's the only way you can do it by just having the simple majority 50 votes instead of a brand new thing where you'd have to get above the filibuster 60 votes. To your point, you have people who are representatives. They represent the interests of different states. Even though they may be Republicans, there are different things that different people have concerns about in different states. They're representing them. The SALT cap, that's the state and local taxes cap. And you have to be able to raise or lower that sometimes to be able to pull from other places. And there is a place where there are people that are from states that have higher income taxes, but they have Republican representatives. that want a higher salt deduction. So it's some things like that that are nuanced, that are fighting, but I do feel confident that they will get that passed. And also about the oil leases. Dion, once again, one of the things that this will affect, this bill, is these nationwide injunctions, things like oil and gas leases that the Department of Interior announced, that people rushed to court to try to get blocked. Things like against Doge, where it was individuals trying to block, Doge making the government more efficient, which in turn helps our economy. This win today actually helps a lot of those things going forward. And if you look at the jobs numbers, you look at the inflation numbers, the economy is singing right now. It's in a really good spot. But we need many things like these injunctions that can stop the progress of rebuilding the economy in the post Biden era to move forward. And that's one of the things this this ruling today helps with.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, when we get back, we're going to hear from you. We've got a full bank of calls right now. One line open just because we just took one. So if you want to call in, no guarantee you're going to make it, but we'll try. 1-800-684-3110. But Martin, stay on hold. John, Wes, and David, we'll get to you in the next segment. Support the work of the ACLJ, as I said. And we're going to try to spend a little bit of time, if we do have time, to show you this video we have of my brother and Attorney General McCuskey when they were prepping for this case. But also, it's available on ACLJ.org. So if you don't get to it, that's a great way to find it. All right. Let's wrap up this week strong with some of your calls and comments. Let's go ahead and go straight to it. We've got a lot of calls to get through. Let's go to Martin in North Carolina. Line 2, come on and raise up. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, sir. Thank you for taking my call. I'm like Dan. I had the answer. I can't call the answer, but I can swerve as well, too, on the same line. With the dissents that we're seeing now, if it's a mainstream thing, we see some 9-0 votes, but most of them are 6-3, 5-4. Especially with the dissent that Will read earlier, it makes me wonder whether the threes are really being advocates for the far left. Or even more scary, do they even really understand the Constitution? Which is, that's where the constitutional crisis comes in. Because it was ridiculous what she said.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is ridiculous, and it does feel very performative, very showy, and that's very unlike the Supreme Court of the United States in a broader historical standpoint. I'll say that in a last 50 years. in our lifetime, until this kind of lineup of court, they've been pretty reserved. You didn't know a lot about the, there was almost a mystique behind the justices. Sure, they took very strong opinions, whether it was Scalia or whoever. You knew where they probably stood on a lot of issues. But you are right that there did seem to be a lot more 9-0 decisions, but not always. I mean, it was still always been one of those courts like this. But the rhetoric of them having to go back and forth through the paper is so bizarre. But also because Justice Jackson decided to make this an apocalyptic sounding moment. And I can't help but feel like those are like career moves. Those are decisions that you're doing if you wanted a good book deal or you wanted a good... I don't understand how that applies to being a Supreme Court justice. You go out and vehemently say you disagree with it and that you hope another case can get filed. Things can change. We've seen things overturned over the years. So it's not like this is the end of the road and the end of the world for democracy, though they do make you feel that way each and every time.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. Even Justice Sotomayor's dissent was trying to make it more about the merits of the case and was saying things like, you know, there are times when it's definitely clear that an overbroad injunction is not valid. the way that it should go. She said, there may be good reasons not to issue universal injunctions in the typical case, but then she's saying the one before us, the underlying case isn't a typical case. So even her dissent, while fully a dissent was making it more about the case, not about the, the outcome about what actually was before them. Because remember, this wasn't about the executive order. This case was about the injunctions. So the many on the left of the court were trying to mix the two in able to get beyond the injunction issue to get really into the merits of the case. But that's why I think Justice Jackson's felt so out of left field on this is that it was just bizarre that this literally, she says, It will surely hasten. The court's opinion here will surely hasten the downfall of our governing institutions, enabling our collective demise. She's saying this is the end of the republic. This will hasten it. And that just is absurd. Like it couldn't be further from the truth that saying individual district judges are can't just continually block, especially when you look at what the opinion says is that the federal courts do not exercise general oversight of the executive branch. We know that from the constitution. This was a very textualist decision by Justice Barrett of saying, look at what we know, look at the history. And what does it tell us? District judges can't be doing this. And that's exactly what they received. And for some reason, Justice Jackson decided to take it way further.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. All right, let's continue on. We got John in Boston. John, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks for taking my call, guys. With that being said, what you just explained, what do we do with judges like Judge Murphy up here in Boston, who is ignoring the Supreme Court's ruling and Basically saying, you know, I'm going to find you in contempt when you come back.
SPEAKER 08 :
So what John's referring to is that there was the judge that issued an injunction about the president deporting migrants that were slated for removal to a third-party country. We saw a decision out of the Supreme Court earlier this week, actually, about... That very issue, which said, you know, that they can be moving, at least at this point, move forward. They can be taken to third party countries instead of directly back. You may think, OK, an Iranian may not be received back in Iran right now or a Venezuelan may not be received back in Venezuela because we don't have good relationship with those countries. But then the the judge Murphy out of Massachusetts, as you as you mentioned, John, as you are there as well, has said basically it seems like he's going to defy the Supreme Court. Don't know where this one goes, but I know the government is is asking the justices at the Supreme Court to address the, quote, unprecedented defiance of. of the Supreme Court's authority. So that is something we do need to watch, John, and we'll see how, if there's anything the Supreme Court does, because right now, they're in recess.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, John, thank you for calling. We got two more calls. We got two and a half minutes. We're going to try. Let's go to Wes first. Wes, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. How come the illegal aliens get kicked out, but the people that hire them don't have any repercussions?
SPEAKER 07 :
Wonderful. that's necessarily true, Wes, that they don't have any repercussions. And look, we obviously have a lot of issues that we have to get through in terms of employment and verification and all that. It seems like every time they put in some sort of new verification system, there's an easy way around it. But Will, you got something? That's all you're talking.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I know that Wes, sorry, not John, specifically that the FBI and the government is doing things. This is just from a while ago. Just from a while ago. No, I mean, Dan Bongino put up an update that there was a big business that was specifically going around that rules. And that one, they had worked with ICE to handle the issue of the migrants as well. But they are looking at what statutes were violated.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's just not making as much news, Wes. But it is happening. And look, I think there's a lot of people who have built their businesses on that, unfortunately. And they're now trying to figure out what to do. That's why I even saw some relief happen for the hospitality industry. They're trying to figure out how they're going to keep functioning. Not saying that's right. I'm just saying that's the facts. Let's go to David very quickly in Tennessee. David, go ahead. Last call of the day.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you for taking my call. Where does birthright citizenship stand? As it is known, Trump says they have to be a citizen under the jurisdiction.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, David, I'm going to cut you off because we've got one minute left. Here's the real quick answer on that. It will have to return to the Supreme Court, that executive order, because the case is still ongoing. So the individual or a group of individuals, because there were several different cases that got consolidated, they still have the injunction. So they still have this in place where they can fight. Do you have a suggestion? They have to go through the court to try and see where the disposition of the merits of that happens. But as far as generally, the court said that that order can go into place within 30 days for those that aren't a part of the lawsuit. So we'll see what happens there.
SPEAKER 07 :
We'll see what happens. We'll keep monitoring. David, thank you so much. Thank you to everyone who watched all week and listened, whether you're on the Salem News Channel, whether you're watching on Facebook, on YouTube, or Rumble, ACLJ.org, the ACLJ app, or you're listening on Terrestrial Radio or SiriusXM. We're available all over the world thanks to you. We're going to put up great content also over the weekend, so make sure you are following on all social media platforms, subscribing. Over 500,000. We didn't get those big balloons, but maybe we'll do that next week. Go to ACLJ.org.
Join Mike and Mark in a heated debate about the effects of political figures in New York City. They explore the astonishing support Zorhan Mamdami has garnered and what it could mean for the city's Jewish community. The conversation also delves into the influence of Democratic figures and the unforeseen outcomes if Andrew Cuomo throws his hat into the ring. Ending on a shocking note, they highlight newly released data showing an unexpected shift in Latino voters towards Donald Trump, challenging preconceived political narratives.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I've been really down about this all week, and I finally figured out in the middle of the night last night why. I haven't really properly articulated. I'm no Mark Davis here. Sometimes it takes me a while. I'm not the wordsmith you are. But I've been thinking about it. One thing I've kept saying is I keep thinking about what it must feel like to be a Jew in New York. And I haven't properly articulated this sense of dread that I have. And here's the dread. Mark, if this guy wins, anti-Semitism has been normalized. If our great American city like New York would have a rank anti-Semite at the helm... What does that say about anti-Semitism in general? We've seen the protests. You and I have talked about, you know, from the river to the sea. We've talked about globalize the intifada, what all that means. But if the city of New York actually elects a guy who believes that vile, evil garbage... We've normalized Jew hatred in America. And that's what I think is the most horrifying thing of all. Policies, you want fast, free buses. I don't know how you're going to pay for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
City-run grocery stores.
SPEAKER 04 :
City-run, all the nonsense. By the way, he wants to tax, and this is an actual quote, he wants to tax white neighborhoods. White neighborhoods, yeah, that's right. White neighborhoods aren't paying their fair share.
SPEAKER 03 :
What's a white neighborhood anymore? A neighbor, yeah, well, especially in New York. How white does it have to be? Especially in New York. But, I mean, how white does it have to be to be a white neighborhood?
SPEAKER 04 :
That'll be up to Zorhan, I guess. He'll get to decide, the mighty Zorhan. But at the end of the day, Cuomo's decision is he will go down in history. If this guy, if his ego refuses to let him see that – Obviously, there has to be an effort to coalesce behind one person to challenge Mom Donnie and have a chance for Eric Adams or Curtis Lewa. And you're probably right. And they cared about the future of New York. They'd say, you know what, two of us have to drop out. We're going to all be behind the one person. And normal people then in the general election will come out, and they will stop this scourge from occurring. But it doesn't look like it's going to happen, and I'm really worried about it. What do you think? How do we—
SPEAKER 03 :
You're 100% correct. And you know the thing that resonates to me through the very heartfelt things that you're sharing is here you are. Here I am in complete lockstep with you on this, and here we are Christian guys who care more about anti-Semitism and who care more about hatred of Jews and hatred of Israel than a good-sized part of the Jewish population in New York. You want to know why? This guy won on some of the Jewish vote. I mean, I don't know.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. Well, Chuck Schumer is now endorsing him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Our senator from Palestine, as Trump calls him.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, yes. But you want to know why? Because we know as Christians what it feels like to be discriminated and slighted and see bigotry against us because of our Christian beliefs. But here's the thing. Generally, they're not killing us. With with with what is an intifada? I mean, you're talking about I went to Israel. I was I was at Gaza after October 7th. I saw what they did and what they're capable of doing. And you got a guy who might very well be the next mayor who does not back off of globalize the intifada. Do you know that Democrats now are furious at Kirsten Gillibrand? You want to know why?
SPEAKER 03 :
New York Democrat senator.
SPEAKER 04 :
What did she do? U.S. Democrat senator went on a talk show somewhere. I think it was on Brian Lehrer on C-SPAN and denounced Zorhan Mamdami's expression, globalize the intifada. Really?
SPEAKER 03 :
In other words, said something actually reasonable, which is... And now they're furious at her.
SPEAKER 04 :
How dare you? We've got to get rid of her.
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SPEAKER 03 :
she doesn't want jews killed i know she doesn't want jews slaughtered are you kidding me well there's her there's john fetterman there's a handful of others i don't know i mean is is there a place for normal democrats just normal americans who might be a little more liberal than you and i are just vote differently is there room for that kind of democrat voter anymore i i just well i don't know if if democrat andrew cuomo as an independent does not
SPEAKER 04 :
throw his hat into the, you know, throw in the towel and say, I'm not, he will go down as one of the most diabolical. I mean, first of all, you've already got his record with killing all the, well, look at his record. Killing all the old people with COVID. Of course, resigning in disgrace. And then, look, he knows. That voters are rejecting him. You know what he's saying? If he doesn't drop out, what he's saying is, I'm going to burn the whole thing down. I'll punish New York, and I'll give you Zorhan Mondavi because you didn't elect me. His ego, this is a guy with a colossal ego, and he'll be like a cartoon villain of history, of political history.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm going to lovingly push back for only one reason. If this were, every once in a while, the kind of phenomenon you describe as somebody who does something seemingly for a self-serving reason, who absolutely single-handedly changes something, and that person properly deserves blame. We have no idea whether the presence or absence of Andrew Cuomo changes this election at all. The Democrat nominee is going to win. That is the baked-in, obvious result. Mamdani won the Democrat primary. The
SPEAKER 04 :
odds are he's that's not true mark that's not that's not true that's not true if cuomo that's not true what you think that you think eric adams had a chance as a eric adams does have a chance if eric adams is the nominee uh eric adams who's got a track record of defending the police of of of opposing defund the police and all the garbage immigration sensible and immigration He's sensible on a lot of things. He's a former cop. And if they coalesce behind him and the general election, when you say the Democrats going to win, no, that's not true, Mark. That is absolutely not true.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll give you maybe 50-50. Without Cuomo, and by the way, a 50% chance for an independent candidate is a big deal. That's giving Eric Adams a lot of credit. So I just don't know if it's such an absolute cinch that Cuomo's entry clearly makes the election go differently. I don't know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I've been talking to a lot of people with boots on the ground in New York, and they're pretty well convinced that's exactly what's going to happen. What do we think? How do we feel about the Tennessee congressman writing a letter to Pam Bondi urging her to deport Mr. Mamdani? You want to talk about people getting a little agitated?
SPEAKER 03 :
I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
U.S. Representative Andy Ogles sent a letter to AG Pam Bondi calling for the denaturalization and deportation of Zoran Mamdani. Now, the problem is, well, yeah, but it's a very Trumpian thing to do, isn't it? Of course it is. Can you imagine? We're going to have his citizenship will be obliterated. Can you? Oh, my gosh. I almost don't want. Interestingly, there was a report in Axios today. President, listen to this. You'll say you don't say. President Trump won a higher percentage of the Latino vote in 2024 than previously believed and came within striking distance of capturing a historic majority of those voters. Pew has analyzed election data all of a sudden now. What is it, end of June? They just got around to looking at the fact that Trump got 48% of Latino voters in 2024. You don't say. The new data shows that Trump rode back into office with a more ethnically and racially diverse coalition than previously known. Yeah, we've known. What we know is Trump is a lot more wildly popular than they ever want to acknowledge. And that's what makes things different this time around.
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That'll do it for another week. We made it. I hope you have a tremendous weekend. We'll do it again Monday. I hope you join us then. Have a great day and a great weekend. And be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America. The Eminem Experience. Subscribe to the Mike Gallagher Show podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us. Have a great day. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher.
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Bill Gunderson takes us on a journey through the latest happenings in the tech and energy sectors. As AI continues to revolutionize industries, learn about the energy supply initiatives that could shape the future. Meanwhile, Uber's partnership with Pony and Xiaomi's aggressive entry into the EV market signal exciting times ahead for investors. Tune in for insights into NVIDIA's significant market impact and how it sets the stage for upcoming technological advancements.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gunderson.
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And welcome to the Friday. It is a record-setting day in the market. I don't know if it will hold throughout the day, but we have opened up to new highs here. All-time highs on the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ. This is Bill Gunderson. President of Gundersen Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our Chartered Financial Analyst and Certified Financial Planner. And right now we have the Dow leading the charge. And that's because we have Nike up 16% today. Nike leading the Dow. We haven't heard that for a while. Dow up 327 to 43,714. The NASDAQ, I've never said this before, it's at 20,283. That is an all-time high on the NASDAQ. It's up 115 now as it's starting to gather some steam after the open. It is up 60 basis points. The S&P 500, I've never said this number before about the S&P, 6,175. A new all-time high of 34 points. The small caps up, no, they're basically flat right now. A little bit hotter than expected inflation number, but nothing to worry about there. We have the bond market up a couple of basis points right now, 3.27. Gold has had a bad week and it's having a bad day. Gold is down 2.3% right now. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And you know, Barry, with just today and Monday, those are the last trading days of the second quarter of 2020. of 2025 we're hitting a new all-time high on the nasdaq we're hitting a new all-time high on the s&p 500 much to the chagrin of all of the pundits out there that were calling for a big sell-off in the market this year and tried to run it down as far as they could. They got as low as $4,800 before things started to turn around, and now here we are at all-time highs in the NASDAQ today and in the S&P 500. What a resilient market, I mean, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, my gosh. And what a week it has been. I mean, the week started with the ceasefire between Israel and Iran. And, of course, their nuclear ambitions, their hopes being dashed. Whether they'll start those up again or not, we'll have to see. But I don't know. They may put their energy somewhere else or something. Look elsewhere for that nuclear bomb that they've been looking for for so many years. We're seeing new highs once again. Gold is not – I think maybe we've seen the highs for the year in gold. That's just me, okay? We saw $3,400 on gold. It really was the standout in the first half of the year while the market sputtered.
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Really the only true hedge. Troubled.
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Yes, and all of the various trade agreements and everything that were being worked out, gold was the standout. But now you have the trade agreement finalized today with China, and they are going to start sending over rare earths. I'll believe it when I see it. So there's really not a lot for gold to like right now. It needs some trouble to break out somewhere again. and some standoffs between countries and things like that. That's what gold likes, and gold likes inflation, which it's not getting. Are you worried at all about the PCE number today, which was, I think, one-tenth of one percent hotter than expected? I wouldn't be too worried about that. The Dow was up 400 yesterday. The Nasdaq was up 200. I called it a classic momentum day in the market yesterday with a lot of those market leaders in AI and nuclear companies. And the Fabulous 7, which is probably the Fabulous 5 these days, but stocks like Meta and Spotify breaking out to new all-time highs. Some of the nuke stocks breaking out to new all-time highs. What a week it has been. And, of course, we came just shy of record numbers yesterday, but we're seeing those record numbers today. And the NASDAQ, or the Dow, is not hitting record highs today. It is having a good day. But Nike, it's pretty much Nike, which is up 16% this morning. After a better than expected report from them and they're going to move a lot of their manufacturing out of China. I don't know what percent they still have there. And they're going to go to lower tariff. Money moves where the tariffs flow. And with 30% tariffs on Chinese goods manufactured there, I would imagine they're going to look to Vietnam. They're going to look to India. They're going to look to other countries. that are down in that 10% tariff range. So that's what's happening there with Nike. The biggest, I'd call it the stock of the day for a change. It hasn't done that in a long time. Nike's had a lot of headwinds.
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Well, and Decker's is up 3%.
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Yeah, that's good. It's dragging deckers along. I don't see Nike moving their production back to Beaverton, Oregon, but I think they'll go to more favorable tariff countries. It seems to me that... Vietnam seems to... Who would have ever thought? I mean, after the Vietnam War and blah, blah, blah, and now Vietnam is becoming the manufacturing hub for the whole world, and we have favorable tariffs on them of just 10%. And, of course, India is also just 10%, so you're seeing a lot of manufacturing. I've got to believe it's hurting China. I've got to believe that... China is kind of the big loser in all of these tariff wars from my perspective. I mean, their rare earths were not enough of a bargaining chip to get those 30% tariffs down. And it seems like there's going to be a lot of manufacturing that's going to continue to drift out of China into greener pastures. And China can't be too happy with that. And in the meantime, China's going to spend a lot of money trying to catch up with us. in the semiconductor race, which we currently have a big lead in that area. But you can't count China out. I mean, they're a very industrious, very intelligent nation, and they probably will at some point catch up with our superconductor, the speed of our semiconductors, which they so badly need. for a lot of their initiatives. But again, Nike to reduce China production as tariffs threaten $1 billion cost increase. So if they keep that production there in China, it would cost them a billion dollars. in profits with those tariffs added to it and of course they finalized the agreement we got 10 key partners still to go apparently we're pretty close on a deal with Europe and a few other countries India looks like it's going to be later this year but it looks to me like they're going to extend the deadlines once again but Wasn't China the elephant in the room, really? I mean, that was the elephant in the room, and now you've got China settled, and the other ones are now lined up. China's industrial profits fell 9.1% year over year in May. That's a big drop. I mean, they've got to be feeling that. And in the meantime, we're still looking for a few more details on this finalized deal between us and China. Another casualty of this week's action, oil. Oil got up to $75 a barrel. Now it's back to $65 a barrel. There is strong demand out of the U.S., but with geopolitical fears easing, commodities, gold and oil, are going to be the big losers here from all of this. And that's good for inflation, I guess. Maybe that was part of that tick up in the PCE was energy costs. So anyways, what a week it has been. Okay, we are lining up our dates. We should have some by Monday or Tuesday for Detroit and the Bloomfield Hills area. Anxious to get there. And then to California, out there in the Central Valley, in the Bay Area. That will be our next trip. After that, I'm really looking forward to getting back to California also. Okay, a lot of robo-taxi, energy, nuclear in the news once again today. We'll be right back. Quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, the gap that China has to make up, and I suppose it's going to be Huawei that will be the major player there, but they are investing $50 billion, China is, in a chip fund. Here's where they lag behind. Lithography. Lithography, of course, is dominated by a company out of the Netherlands, which is ASM Lithography. That does make the equipment that go into the Taiwan semiconductor factories to make lithium. The NVIDIA chips. So that's one of the areas that China lags behind in. Lithography and semiconductor design software, which we have some excellent companies in that. Synopsys comes to mind and a few others. So anyways, they need to overcome those export curves. Just like we're feverishly looking for rare earth under the sea and around Las Vegas, wherever we can find it, they're looking to catch up. And I do see that ASM lithography is down a little bit here today. Now it's back up a little bit. But they dominate the world in this design. And of course, or in the lithography part, the designers that we have are Cadence and Synopsys. Those are our two biggest ones. So anyways, China wanting to catch up with us. And those are the two areas that they're going to work on. It might take more than $50 billion. Yeah, I don't think they're going to get there with $50 billion. Just saying. You know, they need SoftBank and a trillion dollars, maybe half a trillion, maybe ten times what they're going to spend. But don't count China out, for sure. I mean, Huawei is a formidable contender. I think competition is good, okay? Competition is good. It pushes everybody to... I guess they're up against Jensen Wang at the end of the day, who's from Taiwan, or Taiwan descent. He was actually from Oregon. But anyways, that's where that is. Trump mulls executive order to boost energy supply for AI growth. The problem is, Barry, an executive order does not build the power plant. It may grease the skids on all of this, but it does take time. The move being considered included making it easier for power-generating projects to connect to the grid and providing federal land on which to build the data centers needed to expand AI technology. Now, we used to drill for oil on federal lands. No. And now we're looking to build data centers on federal lands. But anyways, the government will introduce an AI action plan and schedule public events to draw public attention to the initiatives. And, of course, we were talking yesterday about the nuclear company, which is headquartered in Columbia, South Carolina. You know what? If I was a kid going to the University of South Carolina, if I was a Gamecock, I'd be studying nuclear energy. South, that college. Barry, you tell your kids, man. When you graduate from college or high school, kid, I want you to go into the nuclear field. South Carolina seems to be a hub for all of that. Between the Navy facility we have, where they send Navy... You know, people to study and to learn and to become proficient at it right over here on the Cooper River. And, of course, now with this big private company, which is making a lot of waves, the nuclear company. And that is right next. That's where the University of South Carolina. Now, I grew up with USC in Southern California, the Trojans. who put some pretty good football players into the NFL.
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We refer to them as the real USC in our house.
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Yeah, that was my father's school. He was a big USC fan. He hated UCLA. But, you know, we saw O.J. Simpson, the juice. And many others, Anthony Davis, et cetera, there at the University of Southern California.
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Tony Dorsett? No, Tony Dorsett was Pittsburgh, right?
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Yes, Tony Dorsett. There was a Tony, though. Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis. There were some good ones that came out of you. It was called Tailback U for the longest time. Mike Garrett was another one.
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Marcus Turner. Marcus Allen. Yeah, Marcus Allen. That's who I'm thinking of.
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So they were... Not quarterback you. Quarterback you was San Diego State and Brigham Young and colleges like that. Alabama put some pretty good quarterbacks like Joe Namath and Kenny Stabler into the NFL.
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Kenny Stabler, yeah.
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Oh, the snake.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah, those were the days. Okay, so anyways, he's going to go full speed ahead. Action plan, action plan. Instead of setting up agencies of regulators to slow things down, the EPA, etc., which, look, it's a necessary evil. You've got to have that. These are sensitive lands. I'm all for that. But at the same time, You can't block progress. We're going to run out. There's no question. There's going to come a crunch time here in the U.S. We're headed for some kind of a collision. I know the Bay Area is already begging for more nuclear, more nuclear. I never thought I'd see the day. In the meantime, the U.K., I'll tell you one area that they're ditching. uk morocco was going to build all of these solar and wind generators there in the sahara desert in morocco build a pipeline under the ocean to supply the uk government or the uk you the united kingdom with energy they're scrapping the uk is rejecting that 25 billion dollar plan to bring power undersea from morocco but imagine Putting up solar power in the Sahara Desert. I know, look, we went through this hot period of time here, Barry, on these hot sunny days. My solar panels were just cooking. I was at 100%. My batteries were, man, my lights were bright. It was something to have that bright sun. They definitely do better on sunny days than they do on cloudy days.
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I just think it's interesting in that story. It's like if you think about it, right, they've got this, you know, they basically just took a big extension. We're going to take a big extension cord and just plug it in from Morocco to U.K.,
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where the Sahara winds blow. And sometimes the sands, I know the sands were in Florida a couple of weeks ago.
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Yeah, they get blown. They come over here via hurricanes and also just wind travel. I think they were getting some Sahara sand down in Texas, if I'm not mistaken, a little bit ago. Yeah.
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Well, the economy can't be too bad. Toyota's May sales hit an all-time record despite trade pressures. They had a 6.9% jump year over year in global sales for May. I mean, that bodes pretty well for the global economy when Toyota has a record month in their car sales. Okay, when we come back, what's up with Uber and Pony? Sounds like Uber is going to pony up. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GuntersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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The Instigator Because there's something in the air We got to get together sooner or later
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, the former CEO of Uber, Travis Kalanick, who I think he was deposed around 2017 or something like that. He resigned recently. over a few publicized scandals, but he's back in action here. You know, Pony is one that we follow, and we own it in our emerging growth portfolio. In May, Uber and Pony announced a strategic partnership to deploy Pony's, now that's a Chinese company, AI's autonomous robo-taxis on the Uber platform. And Uber has partnered with a lot of companies, not just Pony. Starting with the pilot program in a key Middle Eastern market and plans for broader international expansion. Well, now Uber is considering purchasing the technology here in the U.S. from Pony. Pony was up about 12% yesterday. It's been an extremely, extremely volatile stock, but it is a $5 billion company. And they do seem to have very legit technology for the robo-taxis. And I think you're getting a little nod on that today, that it works well because of Uber's desire to maybe invest. Now, how about a new EV model? They're breaking the record here as far as a low price in this category. Show me. which is the smartphone company, XIAOME, Show Me Corporation, which does trade on the pink sheets, XIACF. That is another formidable Chinese company. They have rattled the electric vehicle market again with a new low-price electric vehicle model. Notably, Show Me said it racked up more than 200,000 orders already for the EV model in just the first three minutes. That's bigger than a concert, you know, a concert by Taylor Swift. Sold two million tickets, I think, in the first two minutes. Sounds like a beanie baby, yeah. Yes, imagine EV, or Nintendo has had tremendous sales of that thing, platform.
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New Switch, yeah.
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Third bridge analyst Rosalie Chen weighed in on the aggressive pricing by Xiaomi. Now, we don't know. I mean, the Chinese government a lot of times subsidizes this for their new YU7 model that was introduced to the market yesterday. It has a competitive starting price, $35,000. But this is an upper-end EV. This is not a low-end one. It comes in at a much lower end in the anticipated range, which was said to underscore ShowMeStrategy to aggressively price the model against rivals like Tesla's Model I. And as I look at Tesla, if this is such a big threat to Tesla, Tesla's stock is not even budging today. It was down two days ago. It had a little bit of a sell-off. But Tesla's actually up $1.52 today, back above $1 trillion. But, you know, Tesla already has issues there in the Chinese market today. With all of the competitors that have entered into it, between BYD, Show Me, Li Auto, X-Ping, the list goes on and on. But this is really an aggressively priced EV that got 200,000 orders. In the first three minutes, online. You buy them online. I guess they deliver them, you know, along with your lunch from the local Chinese restaurant. Tesla fires head of North American and European operations. You know, this was a big dude over there at Tesla, Omiyad Afshar. who's one of his main lieutenants, Elon Musk's main lieutenants. He began his Tesla career in 2011, rose to become one of Musk's top lieutenants. He's being held accountable. Now, we haven't heard that in a while. He's being held accountable, right? Merit, I guess, and the performance for the poor showing of Tesla in Europe and in China. So heads rolling over there. Mostly European sales, which they've been off 50%. Right.
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30%.
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Horrible.
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And, you know, part of that, right, was kind of the backlash against, you know, against Musk and Doge. And, you know, so it's interesting. I guess somebody's got to take the heat for it, right?
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Yeah. Musk isn't firing Musk. He's firing this other guy here. But their European sales definitely suffering. I sure see plenty of Teslas in our neck of the woods. And, of course, when I was out in California, like every third car it seemed like was a Tesla. I saw people without their hands were not on the wheel. I don't know if I trust that, but I saw plenty of them doing it. Okay, Texas Pacific. Who's the biggest landowner in Texas? No, it's not Jerry Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys. It's Texas Pacific land, which has quite a story over the last 100 years. Guess what they're going to start doing with their land? Same thing Trump's going to do with federal land.
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Data center.
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Yeah. I mean, trains, planes, and oil and all of this, that's valuable land out there. Cattle, they're going to de-risk. They also have a desalinization project out there, but they're making progress on at least one power or data center venture by the end of the year. Now, it does go up and down with the price of oil, and TPL has been a great stock over the years. It's been a phenomenal stock over the years. It's been under a little pressure this year because of the low oil prices. But it is definitely a major player. It's one of the largest landholders in Texas. Okay, I thought it was the largest. But they could play a key role in data center with larger ranches in the Permian Basin expected to come to market over the next few years. Now here's the deal everybody's watching, Barry. We finally have a deal between the U.S. and China. Even though I don't think China's got a very good deal out of it with those 30% tariffs in place, and in some places 55% because of the fentanyl, France is trying to strike a cognac deal. With China. Oh, with China. If you buy French cognac, it's 39% tariff right now. If you're Chinese and you're buying French cognac, you're paying a 39% tariff. That's hurting France. I guess China's a big consumer of cognac. They're trying to work out a deal to get that 39% drop. I'm sure they'll toast to that when they get that lowered with a little bit of cognac. Here's your biotech of the day, INMB. INMB is up 74% on early mid-stage. They're at the mid-stage trial right now for an Alzheimer's drug, which is one of the holy grails. I mean, Biogen has come... They've come close, but it's pretty, you know, it's not really a game changer. And then Lilly came up with their drug, which isn't really a game changer either. In fact, the UK didn't even approve it. But along comes INMB out of Boca Raton, Florida. You know, there are so many companies and people, Gary. And Boca Raton is the destination. We had a radio show there in Boca Raton for a while, and they sold the station. I don't know what the programming is now on it. It could be all country music. I don't know. But we did have a station down there. I hated to lose that station, that show in Boca Raton.
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Yeah, there's shorts. I mean, there's 26% short interest in INMB. They're crying today. Yeah.
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As they have pretty good success in mid-stage. Okay, they're in the mid-stage trial now, so they're moving along. I didn't even know we had any biotechs in Boca Raton, Florida.
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Anything that can help with that, I welcome it.
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But, you know, the flow of people out of New York City, especially Manhattan, where they're going to have a communist mayor, that'll be interesting to watch. I think there's going to be more talent and more money and more wealthy people leaving New York City. But then again, I mean, the number one... The constituency for that guy that recently won the primaries there was college-educated people, whites, white college-educated people. We'll be right back.
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White bird in a golden cage On a winter's day You gotta go where you wanna go Do what you wanna do with it
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. I'm hearing that the sound quality is not too good today. I don't know what's going on. Someone said it sounds like I'm under the sea, Barry.
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I think in the first segment, but you've sounded great on my end since.
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Well, if I'm under the sea, I'm looking for rare earth minerals to help out with our supply. Or a big flounder for dinner, or maybe some blue crabs, make some crab cakes tonight, you know. Hey, NVIDIA, NVIDIA hitting a new all-time high today, 157.09. That puts it at 3.83 trillion. Wedbush making the bold prediction that it will hit 4 trillion this year. as the AI revolution rolls on. And, of course, they're the ones that basically China is trying to catch up with. I mean, they're not trying to catch up with Intel or its NVIDIA that has caused this giant headache for China and given us a competitive advantage in the world. Thanks to Jensen Wang in a major way here. They also are predicting that Microsoft will hit $4 trillion this year. Let's see how close it is. They're the two biggest right now. Apple has fallen way behind. Microsoft is $3.69 trillion, and NVIDIA is $3.83 trillion. So they've pulled ahead pretty good. Apple was once the leader. They have really fallen from grace. They're almost under $3 trillion now. They're right at $3 trillion. So they were head and head for a long time, and now they have fallen far behind Microsoft and NVIDIA. Who would have ever thought NVIDIA? Oh, man, I'll tell you what, unbelievable. Okay, Meta gets another price target hike. And like I've said before, you may not like our friend Zuckerbucks, but the analysts at UBS give a triple-digit price target hike. That's good, to social media and tech giant Meta Platforms. They go from $683 target to $812. And Meta is one of our biggest holdings.
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It's about, what, a 20%, 25% jump?
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Yes, and Meta's hitting a new almost. It's just shy of an all-time high. It's only 1.83 trillion. It's a mere baby. It's half of what NVIDIA is, Zuckerberg. Jensen Wang is eating your lunch, but... You know, it's had a good year, and the meta continues to grow by 30%, 30% per year. That's not too bad, and, of course, it remains one of our biggest. Meta's kind of giving up a little bit on their Lama AI platform and maybe just going to ones that are way further ahead of them, like OpenAI or Anthropic.
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He's been kind of courting a lot of AI talent, too. You know, the race is on for talent. Pretty sizable package, yeah.
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Well, this guy from Tesla is available out there that was running the European operations until yesterday. Maybe he can get a job with the Doge. I saw the 19-year-old. There was a young guy. I think he was 19 on that Doge team. He's leaving the Doge team to go back to work wherever he's working. Now, how about this? Playing slot machines online. Caesars Entertainment announced on Friday the launch of a new online casino feature that allows players to engage with live slot machines from the casino floor via the Caesars Palace online casino app. Now, this is just me, okay? I don't know. Just sit there and put money. Of course, you don't even put money in the machine anymore. You put your card in the machine and sit there. There's no strategy. There's no thinking. I'm not a big fan of... So you could just have, I guess, some machine.
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I guess you could be sitting next to a machine that just hits a jackpot and it's somebody from across the country, potentially.
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So if you've got that slot machine habit, you can do it right online on your iPhone. I don't know how that's the same experience. I don't know if they're bringing you... You've got to get someone to bring you the free drinks and stuff like that.
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Less smoke. I guess that part would be nice.
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When I was in California, my buddy, he likes to play blackjack. He's a card counter. He's the programmer. He's a computer programmer. He's got that kind of brain, which usually makes you a pretty good blackjack player. And he is. He's a very good blackjack player. He usually wins. And we had a nice dinner at a casino there near Sacramento. Man, that's some beautiful country out there. But the smoke. I can't take the smoke. No. The Chinese restaurant was fantastic. It was beautiful. But, yeah, none of those people yelling at slots. I don't get it. UnitedHealth names a new CEO for the health services arm. I hope it comes with a security detail. He's replacing the guy that was murdered there in New York City. So anyways, they're trying to get back on track, UnitedHealthcare. And then, of course, last but not least, Nike taps low expectations in Q4, signals bottoming of headwinds. So all of this talk about tariffs crushing companies in America, Nike is on the front lines of that. Nike stock is up 15.2% today. The market is not as good underneath the surface because Nike is a big player in both the NASDAQ and the Dow. And as you look at other leadership stocks in the NASDAQ, like Palantir and those kinds of stocks, they're pretty much lagging today. Nike is kind of distorting the surface of the market, making it look better than what it looks like underneath the surface. Well, I'll be working on the newsletter today. It will be interesting to see where the earnings are at. We had a big jump in earnings estimates about two or three weeks ago, not only for next year but the year following. So we're not seeing the downgrades to earnings like were predicted. Instead, we've seen upgrades to earnings which weren't predicted. Which make the situation in the market. But we do have a valuation problem. There's no doubt about it as we hit new highs in the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 today. I'll be out with the newsletter as soon as I get her done tomorrow. And, of course, if you want to play along, we've had one heck of a good month here in June. And quite a quarter, actually, as the quarter comes to an end on January. Our portfolios have had some really good days here recently. Get the four free weeks of the everything, you know, enchilada, everything on the plate. Go to GundersenCapital.com. And to get out of those stodgy old stocks, those dinosaurs of yesteryear, and have a look at... I mean, not way aggressive stuff, but stocks of today that are leaders today. Give us a call at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day. Have a great weekend.
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It is my pleasure. It's so fun.
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yeah it's going to be great and we're going to get to take a little bit of time off we normally will do pre-records for the week of independence week i'm naming it independence week now and thanksgiving christmas and easter week And so we'll get a little bit of time off there. Check out the website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Make sure that you're signed up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. Text line is 720-605-0647. And we certainly want to hear from you. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity. By looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate and it's not altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. Force is obviously a weapon. But it can be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum agenda and globalist elites agenda that's playing out with this Colorado legislature, this Colorado governor, through land use codes, zoning regulations, transmission line easements, a whole bunch of different things out there. And remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And on this show, we focus on the issues. We'll mention the people that are pushing those issues, but try to stay out of all of that personality fighting. In studio with me, very pleased to have with us is Ben Williams. He is the owner of Ben's Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, sponsor of the show. It's great to have you here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Kim, it's always a treat to be here. Thank you.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we're going to talk about the history of plumbing here in just a little bit.
SPEAKER 11 :
We're going to have some fun with it.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we take plumbing for granted until it doesn't work.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 18 :
But we are blessed with modern day plumbing. And we don't even really... We're incredibly blessed. Don't think about it. So we'll talk about that. And in studio... Also is Alan Thomas. You know him. He's a frequent guest. He writes amazing essays that we publish here at the Kim Monson Show. And he also guest hosts from time to time. And you like that, yes?
SPEAKER 02 :
It has been a lot of fun, yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER 18 :
And the piece that we're going to be talking about is National Legislation, the Right Response to a Shifting Cultural Landscape. Well, that looks like that's a good subject, huh?
SPEAKER 02 :
It's asking questions, right? And obviously this is in response to Tennessee Senate Bill 1, where they banned irrevocable... transition methods to people who suffer from gender dysphoria. And the Supreme Court said, yes, the states can do that. And so Marjorie Taylor Greene said, I'm going to propose federal legislation. And as we know on this show, we have talked a lot about state sovereignty versus federal power. And this is just asking the question, is this a wise move? response to this win that we got from the supreme court and or should we be going more the state route like we did like the supreme court said we should with abortion so it's asking the question it's it's trying to think like federalists like the federalist papers did and try and say hey let's not just react let's be proactive and and use a wise approach going forward
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, this is going to be fascinating. So we'll talk about that in the third and fourth segment here. In the first hour, let's get over here to our word of the day. I've never heard this word before. And Richard, limo driver, let me know if you know this word. And it's quiddity. It's spelled Q-U-I-D-D-I-T-Y. And it could be avoiding a question. So the sentence that had it says, when a politician avoids answering a question while pretending to answer it, he or she often does it using quiddity or by bringing up irrelevant and distracting points. So I think that's a great word of the day today. So your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. Our quote of the day, it is Friday. And that means that we are getting our quote of the day from the Medal of Honor quote book that has been published by the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo. Highly recommend that you have the book. Highly recommend that you put it on your list of things to do to visit the center. They do amazing work. They have K-12 educational programs on values presentations, honor our Medal of Honor recipients, and they will have a great celebration on the 4th of July down there. And then Drew Dix has also started a podcast. But this is from... The Medal of Honor quote book is from Nick D. Bacon. He was born in 1945, died in 2010, United States Army, Medal of Honor recipient, actions taken August 26, 1968. And Alan, would you please begin with the citation of what he did to be awarded the medal?
SPEAKER 02 :
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity, in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, Staff Sergeant Bacon distinguished himself while serving as a squad leader with the 1st Platoon, Company B, during an operation west of Tam Kai. When Company B came under fire from an enemy bunker lined to the front, Staff Sergeant Bacon quickly organized his men and led them forward in an assault. He advanced on the hostile bunker and destroyed it with grenades. As he did so, several fellow soldiers, including the first platoon leader, were struck by machine gun fire and fell wounded in an exposed position forward of the rest of the platoon. Staff Sergeant Bacon immediately assumed command of the platoon and assaulted the hostile gun position, finally killing the enemy gun crew in a single-handed effort. When the third platoon moved to Staff Sergeant Bacon's location, its leader was also wounded.
SPEAKER 18 :
Without hesitation, Staff Sergeant Bacon took charge of the additional platoon and continued the fight. In the ensuing action, he personally killed four more enemy soldiers and silenced an anti-tank weapon. Under his leadership and example, the members of both platoons accepted his authority without question. Continuing to ignore the intense hostile fire, he climbed up on the exposed deck of a tank and directed fire into the enemy position while several wounded men were evacuated. As a result of Staff Sergeant Bacon's extraordinary efforts, his company was able to move forward, eliminate the enemy positions, and rescue the men trapped to the front. Staff Sergeant Bacon's bravery at the risk of his life was in the highest traditions of the military service and reflects great credit upon himself, his unit, and the U.S. Army. And this is his quote. He said this. He said, everything America has, its prosperity and riches, freedoms and liberties, magnificent beauty and natural resources, is all a gift from God and the United States military. Love that quote. Let's get into just a few of these headlines. This is absolutely huge. This is from NPR. Supreme Court upholds South Carolina's ban on Medicaid funds for planned parenthood. This is absolutely amazing. And Planned Parenthood is probably the largest provider of abortions in the country. And the fact that we would be using taxpayer dollars to abort babies is beyond belief. And so this is a huge, huge win, I think. Ben Williams, what's your thoughts on this?
SPEAKER 11 :
They're also the biggest provider of body parts. I know. They section them off and sell them. So thank God.
SPEAKER 18 :
As you mentioned that, I had actually, this was during one of the elections several years ago, had been provided with an invoice of body parts, baby parts. that had gone to Anschutz Medical Center here. And one of the things was fresh eyes. And I looked at that and I thought, how barbaric can we be?
SPEAKER 11 :
You can Google how much is a human body worth and it gives a breakdown for virtually everything. And I don't remember the dollar figure, but it's massive.
SPEAKER 18 :
And that's baby parts?
SPEAKER 11 :
Just human body parts, just period.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wow. What do you think about this, Alan?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, it kind of goes to what we've been talking about for several years now since the Dobbs decision, that this court is very preferential towards giving states the ability to make decisions on morality and nuanced matters such as this. So this is yet again another win that conservatives need to jump on and say, we're going to wrest control away from the federal government state by state. And it's needed and it's absolutely a good victory for us.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and Daniel Turner was on last week with Power the Future. And he said something that just kind of stopped me. And he said the Democrat Party has lost its major funder under this Trump administration and Doge. And the biggest funder of the Democrat Party has been the U.S. taxpayer. And so this is really huge here as well. And I do think that we need to... battle this state by state. Where we are in Colorado, it's a very dark place, or it can be a very dark place if you are a baby in the womb, if you are a child with all this transgender... radical transgender activist pharmaceutical and surgery mutilation of children colorado is a place i think we are at the tip of the spear along with probably california washington but we are at a spot here where we need to engage in this battle of ideas and that's why we do what we do absolutely
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. But also importantly, I think what it will also allow is when you allow the states the ability to make these decisions as opposed to having it federally passed top down, it gives people the ability to vote with their feet. And we're seeing that a lot out of California. People are leaving California in droves and really making those policymakers think, hey, if everybody leaves, who can I tax, right? And so it's giving people State's the ability to make policy decisions and people move state to state and go, I support what's happening in Florida, in Texas, and these Republican led states because they're doing what I want them to do when it comes to these questions of morality.
SPEAKER 18 :
So the other thing, and I'm sure we'll talk about this, is that California then has to be responsible for the decisions that they're making. Gavin Newsom can't come to the federal government and say, hey, we need more federal money. That would be money from our neighbors. or borrow it from our children to pay for a bullet train that goes nowhere, or to pay for the hole that we've gotten ourself into because of all of the illegal immigration that we've had. They have to be responsible for that. And then the voters then need to be engaged and say, hey, you're putting this into policy. We want to vote you out. So that's the way it's supposed to work, right?
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly. Which the progressives have gotten around largely because they've had such a bureaucratic federal level
SPEAKER 18 :
approach to it that they've basically taken the decision out of the state's hands and so we'll talk about that two other headlines that i well one other headline that i wanted to mention and this is from katie vr christian camp dismisses the discrimination lawsuit challenging state gender identity laws and apparently uh it says a christian overnight camp and the colorado department of early childhood have settled this lawsuit that was brought earlier alleging that this camp would be forced to shut down if colorado's new rules that allow children to use facilities based on gender identity were enforced on tuesday the cdec announced the settlement noting that the camp voluntarily dismissed the lawsuit because the regulations it cited did not apply to the camp and it's I think it's Idrahaja.
SPEAKER 10 :
Idrahaji.
SPEAKER 18 :
Idrahaji. Okay, thank you. And it's named for the hymn, I'd Rather Have Jesus. Filed that lawsuit in mid-May and cited this rule. And so this is interesting that this has occurred. I don't think that this is the last time that the state of Colorado is going to try to use this crazy law. But it's great for these kids at Camp Idrahaji. Did I say that right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Idrahaji.
SPEAKER 18 :
Idrahaji, that that's not going to be forced there. So that's big news as well. Lastly, I wanted to mention the Roger Magnet State Farm Insurance team. But for America's Veterans Stories this Sunday, 3 to 4 p.m., I interviewed Roger regarding his stepfather who fought in World War II. He began in northern Africa and then, let's see, I think it was Sicily, Salerno, southern invasion of France or southern liberation of France, all the way up to liberating Dachau concentration camp. Two and a half years. He didn't come home. He fought for two and a half years. It is a powerful story. And Roger and his team are great sponsors of the show. I've been saying he's been in business for 48 years. It's actually 49 and a half, taking care of his clients and giving back to the community, taking care of his family. And you don't stay in business for that long unless you're doing something really right. So give them a call, 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment to look at your insurance. And the Roger Mangan Insurance Team is definitely there.
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SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. Email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal. that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. In studio with me is my good friend, Alan Thomas. And we'll get to your essay in the next segment regarding, is national legislation the right response to a shifting cultural landscape? Big question this early in the morning. So we'll talk about that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Need some coffee.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. And in studio with me is Ben Williams with Ben's Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. Great sponsor of the show. Welcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim. Great to be here.
SPEAKER 18 :
And let's talk a little bit about plumbing. You seem to know an awful lot about that. And I was talking about Roger Mangan and his stepfather. They had gone to Rome, which I was thinking about Rome and their aqueducts and their plumbing. So this I think this history of plumbing is going to be where do you want to start?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it's going to be fun. I would love to start with the word of the day from Ben's plumbing, heating, and cooling. Okay. The word of the day is plumber. Now, Eric, it's not spelled like it sounds. It's spelled P-L-U-M-B-E-R. It comes from the Latin word plumbum, which means to work with lead. How about that?
SPEAKER 18 :
I did not know that.
SPEAKER 11 :
We all love our lead water lines. I like to think that water is one of God's better creations, ranking right up there with oxygen and coffee. And, you know, history can be a little bit dry, so I thought I'd start out with my own personal history in plumbing. Okay. I grew up in St. Cloud, Minnesota in my younger years. We lived in a house that was built in 1876, had one toilet, seven kids. Oh, boy. Toilet was a higher priority. Yeah. Somebody knocked a hairbrush in the toilet, and instead of pulling it out, decided to flush it. That's how we make our problems go away, right? Right. Well, it wasn't long before we realized that the toilet was not flushing. So dad broke out his tools and, you know, first he started plunging, couldn't get it cleared. So he decided to pull the toilet and took it out in the yard, was working with the garden hose and couldn't get it. And he called us boys over and said, hey, you know, your hands are smaller than mine. If you can reach in here and get this thing, I'll pay you 25 cents. Now, this was in the 1960s. That would have been a big payday, right? We could have bought 25 pieces of bazooka bubblegum.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
So we all gave it our best shot, and it was just beyond where we could reach it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
And he said, well, boys, let's gather around. We need to pray. Oh. So we all gathered around in the backyard, laid our hands on the toilet, and prayed. I could only imagine what the neighbors were thinking.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 11 :
And once, you know, we got done, he started to run a little bit more water, and that hairbrush came out.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh my gosh, that is a story.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
So that was my introduction to plumbing.
SPEAKER 18 :
Did anybody get in trouble for flushing the hairbrush down the toilet?
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, it was many, many years later that we found out that mom actually did that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, that is funny.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, you know, with water, obviously this is a very, very important part of life. You know, a lot of cities have been built near streams and lakes and things like that. So the challenge has always been getting water to where we need it and also disposing of the waste in a way that doesn't make us sick.
SPEAKER 19 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
So we've all seen pictures of the Roman aqueducts bringing water from the mountains into their city. Lead water pipes, of course, have been around since about 3000 BC.
SPEAKER 18 :
Really?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I did not know that. Yeah, I mean, water's been a big deal. It's something that everybody's tried to figure out, how can we make this work? Alan, got a picture here. Do those look like water pipes? No, those are quite something right there. Yeah, tell us what you're looking at.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, man, I don't even know. I mean, obviously, it looks like water pipes, but they have just caked and super thick.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so those are actually tree logs that have been hollowed out. And logs were used... As a matter of fact, you can look this up. January 8th of 2025, just a handful of months ago, the Denver water crews dug up a wooden water pipe. Wow. And it... It was put in around the 1880s. It was called a Wyckoff water pipe. And it was advertised as being a cheaper alternative to the wooden stave water pipes that were built kind of like a barrel, you know, that had wooden slats that were all strapped together. And also advertised as being healthier than cast iron or galvanized water pipes.
SPEAKER 1 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 1 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
So yeah, wooden logs have been used for about 2,000 years as a way to conduct water. Then they came out with galvanized pipes to replace the lead pipes. You know, this was a nice step in helping to avoid lead poisoning. And galvanized pipes were installed basically between 1880 and 1960. There's still a lot of houses in the Denver, Englewood area that have galvanized water lines.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you ever look up a picture of a corroded galvanized water line, you will probably want to get your pipes replaced. Just saying. Okay. It's interesting. Okay. So copper water lines came around in about the 1960s. These were a lot quicker to install. They didn't rust. They actually killed off bacteria and it didn't create a metal taste in the water. So times were getting good. And more recently, plastic water lines called PEX, P-E-X. They've been around since about the 1990s. There's a different variety of qualities that you buy. We install a product called Uponor. It comes with a 25-year warranty. It does not leach toxins into the water. It can freeze and expand up to eight times its diameter without breaking. So that's a product that we like to install.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Um, so let's talk about the other end of plumbing.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
So the Romans had public toilet rooms. Instead of Charmin, they would use smooth stones or pieces of pottery or sponges on a stick. How about that? Aren't we glad to be live today? Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, homeschoolers, I got a couple here that are going to be on the quiz. Okay. In 1596, Sir John Harrington built a flushing toilet because Queen Elizabeth was coming to visit.
SPEAKER 02 :
Huh. Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
In 1861, Thomas Crapper was hired by King Edward VII to do some plumbing work in the royal palaces and he patented a number of toilet-related inventions. Kim, I can see you are thinking.
SPEAKER 02 :
You're thinking the same way a plumber would about that, I believe.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Well, I find it ironic his last name.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. So that's where these terms come from. Got to use the john, got to use the crapper.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, yeah, history here. So, you know, these toilets were a thing for royalty. The common people used chamber pots. And they would either dump them out the window onto the street below or pour them into a trough that ran down the middle of the street.
SPEAKER 18 :
That doesn't sound very healthy.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, not very healthy at all. We wonder where the plague came from.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Outhouses were invented about 500 years ago. And, you know, you dig a hole in the ground, put your little shed over it, and when the hole filled up, you would move it to a location. Okay. Please watch where you step.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
So as pipes came into common use for the waste to run into, sewer gases would back up in the buildings and cause an explosion from the methane mixing with the flames from the furnace. So they quickly figured out that venting was needed to vent the sewer gas out the roof. And with this vent came the invention of this U-shaped pipe that you'd see underneath your sinks called a P-trap. That allowed the water to flow out but kept sewer gases from backing up into the house. So this was a good rule that was put into effect. But as we oftentimes see with rules, the government can, you know, they enjoy their power, right?
SPEAKER 02 :
They like going a little bit farther, don't they?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. So a lot of us probably remember in the 1990s when the government said, oh, we need the EPA mandated that toilets had to use less water. So like today, a water saver toilet is going to use between one and one and a quarter gallons. Now, in a laboratory, that's great. But, you know, when everybody knows, you know, the pipes have to slope downhill. Right. It's actually figured out about between one-eighth and one-quarter of an inch per foot. And that's designed so that the water will not run away from the solids. You want the water and the solids to go at the same pace. So if the pipes aren't installed perfectly or if there's any tree roots or, you know, offsets in the pipes, things will... Can be a problem. Can be a problem. Here's the note for ladies. Just because the box says it's flushable, please don't do it. Please don't do it. Put it in the trash.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know, Kim, if you enjoyed watching Seinfeld, but there was an episode where the building superintendent installed all these low water saver shower heads. And Elaine's hair was just as flat as could be. And Kramer was selling black market shower heads.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's what happens when government gets in bad business. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so they're mandating like two gallon per minute on the showerheads, which means that people just take longer showers, right? But good news, on April 9th of 2025, Donald Trump issued an executive order to make showerheads great again. I think he deserves a third term.
SPEAKER 18 :
As a plumber, I'm sure you do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, absolutely. They've also mandated that faucets use a maximum of 1.5 gallons per minute. And if you're just rinsing off your hand briefly, okay, cool. But if you're at the kitchen sink, man, it's like, come on, dude. I need some water. So California figured out that people just run water longer. And so some of the cities require water meters to give a daily report of how much water is used. So the water police can come knock on your door and say, hey, don't use more than you're allotted.
SPEAKER 18 :
Kind of like energy with Excel and those smart meters, too.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. So I want to close with a couple of things here. The trades, plumbing, electrical, HVAC, framing, whatever, these are fantastic trades. things for people to go into. And I would just want to encourage our listeners, talk to some of these young kids, both boys and girls. I have met some female plumbers and man, they are top notch because it's a man's world. They got to be good, but they're, they're usually running the crew. But, but the trades are fantastic. You don't have to rack up a big college bill and you can make a great living. As a matter of fact, you know, a story I like to tell, Plumber goes to a guy's house, the garbage disposal is stopped up, and he takes his screwdriver and flicks the chicken bone out. Disposal works great. He puts his screwdriver away and says, well, that'll be $2,000. The guy says, $2,000? Well, yeah, that's my minimum. The customer says, I can't believe this. I'm a brain surgeon, and I don't even make that kind of money. And the plumber says, you know... Back when I was a brain surgeon, I didn't make that much money either. That's funny. That's funny. So also, I just want to put in a special request to our listeners. Please pray for Kim and the work that she's doing. She is literally our modern-day Paul Revere, and Kim is involved in many political battles that will potentially reshape our state and our nation. And she needs our prayers, encouragement, and support. And Kim, thank you for allowing us to be a part of what you are doing, and I want our listeners just to join in the battle for the soul of our nation. Thank you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Ben Williams, thank you so much. And, again, that's Ben's plumbing, heating, and cooling. How can people reach you?
SPEAKER 11 :
Smoke signals don't work so well out in Bennett because it's windy, so you can call or text. Text is obviously the best way to reach us, 303-995-1636.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's 303-995-1636. Ben, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
Indeed, it is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. And do you want more freedom and confidence with your money? Well, Mint Financial Strategies can help. They're an independent firm with over 25 years of experience, and as an accredited investment fiduciary, they put your best interests first always. With a strategy-first approach, they'll help you build a plan that fits your life. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. In studio with me is Ben Williams. Love the history. And I thought it was interesting how it was in the 90s when it started to have government tell us how much water our toilets, our shower heads, our light bulbs. That's not the proper role of government.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is not.
SPEAKER 18 :
at all so bins plumbing heating and cooling that number is 303-995-1636 and alan thomas a frequent guest on the show writes amazing essays that we publish at the kim monson show as well as you guest host as well and people really enjoy your guest hosting so thank you Let's talk about the piece that we'll publish this weekend. Is national legislation the right response to a shifting cultural landscape? Where do you want to begin?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I guess we'll just recap it a little bit. We teased it a little earlier in the show, but Tennessee Senate Bill 1 prohibits providing minors with puberty blockers hormone therapy to treat gender dysphoria. And that obviously was sued and went all the way to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court said, no, there's no constitutional issue here. There's no treating different sexes differently. This is absolutely constitutional. Tennessee can do this. and upheld this piece of legislation from Tennessee. I think prior to that, I think Marjorie Taylor Greene had a pretty good feel that the Supreme Court was going to pass it, and she had a piece of legislation. A rule in favor of it. A rule in favor of it, right? And she had a piece of legislation called the Protect Children's Innocence Act, which is basically mirroring that bill but at a federal level. And so after the Supreme Court said this, she, of course, came out and said, I'm going to reintroduce this. I'm really going to champion this at a congressional level. And, you know, we talk so much on this show about state sovereignty. I think one of one of the. Most popular pieces I wrote happened right before the Dobbs decision talking about state sovereignty versus federal power and how our founding fathers really wrestled with that question and how they really wanted to put control where. where people are they said people should govern where they are at if it's not of a federal concern if it's more of a virtue and moral question let's let states handle that we need to be in the much broader issue of we're giving the federal government the minimal possible power to do its job to keep the states united and treated as one country. But other than that, we want to really punt things down to the state level and let people decide where they live, how they should live. And so when Marjorie Taylor Greene proposed that legislation, it of course had split ideas in my head, right? On one hand, Absolutely. This seems like something you should do, similar to many of the times we've talked about abortion on the show. Would I support protecting all of the unborn babies across the country with one fell swoop? You and I agree 100% would want to do that. Do I want to protect children from these diseases? from these procedures which completely change their bodies and they can never recover from or change back in the future? Absolutely 100%. There's no question. This is absolutely a justifiable reaction to this Supreme Court ruling. But when we look at it in terms of would that be a wise decision going forward, it's a question that carries a lot of weight to it. Because one, you want to protect the kids, but you don't just want to sacrifice the short term for the long term. And that's really the questions I'm posing in this article. And I don't even fully know the answer of whether this is a wise decision to propose it nationally, or would it be a wiser decision to instead change the culture and do this state by state? protect state sovereignty for the long term because what we have seen at the federal level is an eroding of state sovereignty you know we talked about the EPA in plumbing you know that's just such a small sub sector of how the federal government has decided they want to run every single facet of our lives and so when the supreme court is gifting us opinion after opinion after opinion when the supreme court is saying yeah if south carolina doesn't want to fund planned parenthood they should be allowed to when when the supreme court is saying in dobbs hey each state can determine how they want to treat abortion when they give us this decision yes tennessee can decide how they want to protect their children Do we want to look a gift horse in the mouth and then turn around and not use that gift that the Supreme Court is giving us to wrest control away from the federal government and instead hand future administrations who may not be. who may not recognize this plight and in fact might reverse that decision, do we want to give them the ability to then in the future reverse this Protect Children's Innocence Act through a future piece of federal legislation and use our federalizing this cultural issue against us 10, 15, 20 years down the line? So it's a question we need to answer because if we do this federally now, what's to say If AOC, heaven forbid, ever wins the presidency in the next 50 years and she has Congress on her side, can we not imagine her passing a piece of legislation that would repeal Representative Greene's legislation? And that's the question I'm asking in this is, is this a wise way to go about this cultural battle? Because it almost feels like a shortcut. to try and just get something now to protect our kids as opposed to fighting the long, hard fight of going state by state to try and change the culture and try and change things. So it's a question I don't have a fully formed answer to, but these are questions we should be thinking about as free thinkers.
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We absolutely should. And I'm a bit conflicted on this. And I'm pretty sure I'm going to come down on this side of state sovereignty. When we look at the Declaration of Independence, that we're endowed by our Creator with these unalienable rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, and that we see then an assault upon life through abortion or an assault upon life of our children through these irreversible either surgeries or pharmaceuticals, Then I think we do say, don't we have a responsibility on a national level to protect life, liberty, those things? seems like the answer is yes however to your point the founders wanted to decentralize power because once you centralize power you may like the one the the you know the agenda there but once you you um centralized that. Let's just take, for example, New York City, the Democrat primary. They now have a Democrat socialist who wants to wrest all kind of control. So when that's the case, surely I would like to have everything decentralized so that we can engage in this battle of ideas. So we're going to leave that hanging out there. I want to hear what you all have to say as well. Jenny, I've got to get to your text. I'm sure there's something really important there. The text line is 720-605-0647. And I wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation Foundation. The official Marine Memorial is right here in Golden, Colorado, and they're working diligently for a facelift. It was dedicated in 1977. This next week, in honor of all of those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom, I'd recommend that you make a contribution. And that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity. In studio with me is Ben Williams with Ben's Plumbing, Heating. And cooling, that phone number is 303-995-1636. And Alan Thomas, he is a frequent guest on the show, a great author at the Kim Monson Show, and guest host as well. We're talking about, is national legislation the right response to a shifting cultural landscape? It's such an interesting question regarding centralized power or decentralized power, Alan.
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Well, and we also talk about it in terms of federal power, and we act as if A piece of legislation now is permanent. Right. And I believe that's the the short circuiting the system. And that's a temporary gain to a long term problem. I mean, we've seen at a federal level, unless it's a constitutional amendment, it is not permanent. And that's also the the way we need to be thinking about this is. You know, Biden said, we're going to help pay for gender transition surgeries in the army. And then Trump comes in and he says, absolutely not. You know, one administration comes in and they have a favorable Congress. They pass a law. Right now, we could pass a law repealing Obamacare if we wanted to. So it's not like when you pass a federal piece of legislation, it's permanent. And so is... Is this bill yo-yoing? You know, if once Democrats get in control someday in the future, and they will, because that is how our country works, there's a pendulum that swings back and forth, is this still going to be on the radar for them? And is this going to be something that they could then reverse to the extreme opposite? Right. And so that's why I'm challenging. Is this a wise decision or are we just doing easy work by passing federal legislation, feeling like we did something and not fighting the more difficult cultural battle within states? And obviously, you know, here in Colorado, we have a very large uphill battle culturally on this issue. and it's a more difficult battle but will it bring more long-term success and protect our kids or more importantly our grandkids and their kids more effectively in the future rather than passing a piece of federal legislation that just yo-yos up and down yes we're against it no we're not yes we're against it no we're not a very important conversation ben williams do you want to weigh in on this
SPEAKER 11 :
I'd love to, and this is going to seem a little bit disjointed, but this has everything to do with what you talk about, Alan. I always look at the root cause, like talking about going back and forth. Why are people voting the way they are? Set aside the pre-programmed computer that's counting the votes. That's another discussion. But why do people vote the way that they do? And the left has understood for a long time you have to win the hearts and minds of the kids. This is the next generation. This is the way that our culture goes. And something that my son and I have gotten involved in is getting books into school libraries that just promote some good moral values. Brave Books is a company that really has capitalized on this. I'm sure you guys have heard of the Tuttle Twins. And so here's something that – and also I want to mention Patricia Rabon. She's a local author who writes – very fascinating uh christian and when i say christian very light but mystery novels that kind of intertwine this thing of you know who is god does he care about what's going on in my life and how do i solve things but i the uh school library in elizabeth they've had quite a battle going on down there and through trying to help them out we found out that You can donate books to the school libraries. They will not refuse books that you donate. Also, as parents of children going to school, you can request books because they have a fund to buy X amount of books. And so if we can flood our libraries with some good, decent books, we can change the hearts and minds of kids, which will long-term affect voting and legislation and things like that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Completely agree. And that's actually the second part is how do we fight that battle? Because like you pointed out, a lot of times Republicans aren't the best at messaging and winning the rhetorical battle. We may care more passionately and more compassionately for people. Yet we approach things sometimes in such a logical way that that we take that emotion out and we allow the left to carry the narrative that we don't care. And there's a lot of parallels in this with the abortion debate. Right. And I mean, this this abortion has been a millstone around Republicans necks for a long time. And the last thing we want to do, lastly, I guess we'll talk about the pragmatic level of it, is this going to be the replacement for abortion surrounding congressional elections? Because for the longest time, abortion kind of just sat around the millstone, like a millstone around every Republican candidate. Even if you're running for dog catcher in your local election, you would probably get asked a question about abortion in That way they can frame you as somebody that doesn't care about women's rights because you don't care about this or that. You're not a very moral person. We can't trust you. Really, we've now had national elections. They can all sidestep that issue because they can say that's a state issue for abortion, right? After Dobbs, we can now say, you know, Lauren Boebert, any of our national congressmen and women can just say, hey, at the federal level, we don't have a say anymore. The court has said this is a state-level issue. Is this going to turn into that? And are we then going to put another snare to entrap our candidates that we're trying to send to the federal government by making this a federal issue once again. And so there's also a pragmatic question we need to ask ourselves is, is this again a wise thing to do to yet again set a snare, especially for candidates out of Colorado? I mean, Trump has a very narrow lead in the House, and it's in no small part to the wins that we have here in Colorado with Gabe Evans, Lauren Boebert, and Jeff Crank. Are we then putting another barrier for them winning elections in a blue state by putting this moral problem and predicament that Democrats usually win rhetorically in front of candidates? So, again, I don't know the best answer. And, you know, we've talked long and hard about ways to message around these moral issues. And there's ways that savvy candidates can answer it. But for the most part, pragmatically, is this a battle we even want to fight, especially given the gift that we've been given to make it a states' rights issue? Is that something we want to do? And, you know, we've talked a lot about on this show, we need to do the hard work. We need to do the persuading work. We can't take shortcuts. And I fear if we try and make this a national issue, it will yet again make a shortcut. And the one parallel I make throughout is Kansas after the Dobbs decision. You know, Kansas had a law in its book saying abortion is prohibited as soon as we're allowed to make it prohibited. And then when Dobbs came out, that law went into effect and abortions overnight became prohibited in Kansas. Well, the cultural backlash was so severe that they then pass a constitutional amendment similar to Colorado saying, no, we're going to enshrine in our constitution abortion access. And so it was one of those cultural fights that. many people probably thought they had it won because they said this law is on the books. If it ever reverses, we'll be good. We're not going to fight that cultural battle anymore in Kansas because we don't have to. And then when it was kicked back to Kansas, all of a sudden we're five steps behind on that culture war. We're five steps behind on that persuasion. And so the last thing I want to do is be five steps behind again and not be protecting our kids 20 years in the future and
SPEAKER 18 :
if this ever reverses course federally and instead be fighting the cultural battle now and changing the hearts and minds of people now and doing the hard work now alan thomas and that's what we do here is the hard work so thank you you're going to stay in studio ben williams you're going to stay in studio for hour number two and our quote for the end of the show is from charles swindoll he said this courage is not limited to the battlefield or the indianapolis 500 or bravely catching a thief in your house. The real tests of courage are much quieter. They are the inner tests, like remaining faithful when nobody's looking, like enduring pain when the room is empty, like standing alone when you're misunderstood. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment. Thank you to the team, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Friday, Producer Joe.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, absolutely. So they're actually using more.
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly.
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Yeah.
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But that's what happens when government gets involved in things.
SPEAKER 02 :
Or, and I'm not saying necessarily me, but there are ways that you can take out the shower heads and take out the reducer and get a little bit more pressure than they advertise on the box.
SPEAKER 10 :
Black market shower heads is what we call those. I've heard of that, Alan.
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Yeah.
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You have? People pulling it off and pulling out the flow reducer? I've never heard of a person personally that did that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Don't know anyone personally, but I have heard of it, yeah.
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Yes. Didn't know you could do that. So now we know. Now we know. So Hooters Restaurants, five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. That whole story is super interesting. You can find it at my website. Our word of the day, and it's a good one, is quiddity. q u i d i t y it could be bringing up irrelevant or distracting points this is also let me think what this is um it's well it's a it's a redirect and you can see this happen in politics many times where someone a politician may get a question and they'll say that it's a very interesting question it is so important over here and they go over to the other a different point and i didn't know there was a name to that alan thomas is called And they had an example, when a politician avoids answering a question while pretending to answer it, he or she often is using quiddity. I thought that's a great word of the day.
SPEAKER 11 :
How about a two-word sentence for that?
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Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Joe Biden.
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But is that quiddity or just a lack of answer? That's the...
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Boy, and this whole auto pen thing is going to get big. The things that he signed with an auto pen, that means he didn't know he was signing it. This is going to get really interesting. Our quote of the day is from Medal of Honor recipient Nick D. Bacon, born 1945, died 2010, actions taken August 26, 1968. We read the citation of what he did on August 26, 1968 in the first hour. But he said this, everything America has, its prosperity and riches, freedoms and liberties, magnificent beauty and natural resources is all a gift from God and the United States military. I love that quote, Alan.
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I love it, too. And, you know, wherever you stand on the whole Iran bombing, our military in action is quite the force. You know, the way that they were able to send all those B-2s all the way across the ocean. From Missouri. From Missouri all the way across multiple. The coordination alone that they discussed is awe-inspiring. how much force we have and we can protect our Liberty because we have the strength of our military right now. And, you know, good on president Trump for making NATO pay for their fair share. But at the same time, even our allies know how much power we have, even after having several Democrat presidents who tried their best to decrease the power of our military, we still have an awe inspiring military that, uh, I don't know. It was just one of those you hear about how far they flew, the types of accuracy that they had. It's pretty incredible.
SPEAKER 18 :
Refueling the fighter jets. Yeah. And and how we were able to do that without anybody knowing was because Donald Trump didn't tell the Democrats.
SPEAKER 19 :
Exactly.
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It's pretty, pretty amazing. But again, I love that quote from Nick D. Bacon. That Medal of Honor quote book you can purchase by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. And they are going to have a great celebration on July 4th. That information is there. As well as check out the podcast by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix. This most latest one is on domestic insurrection. And... Drew, through all of his experience, brings so much to the table. So be sure and check that out. And again, that website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. Alan Thomas, you have a lot of different hats, but one of your hats is first vice chair with the Douglas County GOP, right?
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Correct, yeah.
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And you and I talked about this home rule question that was on the ballot. The election was on Tuesday on whether or not Douglas County would become a home rule county. There's only two other just counties that are home rule counties, and that is Garfield.
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Weld and Pitkin.
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And then there are two city-county entities, Denver and Broomfield, that they also are home rule. And you and I talked a lot about this local control. It was being couched as let's have local control push back on what is happening in Denver. That seems like a good idea. It resoundingly was defeated. What's your thoughts about that?
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Well, we said it would be an interesting election and it definitely turned out to be, didn't it? And, you know, this is just my personal thoughts on it. I don't have any, you know, polling data behind the scenes to back it up. But it was like we said, it was very interesting because as a. Voters voted against it, but I'm not sure they necessarily voted against it as a concept, perhaps more rejecting the process and the presentation. And I say that because there was some very nuanced split-ticket behavior that when you look at the numbers and the more I looked at it, and even today, you know, standing underneath the shower that was maybe or maybe not flow-restricted, A thought hit me again that it was very interesting because it was soundly rejected, but the GOP endorsed candidates, a lot of the elected officials in Douglas County, such as the commissioners, were not rejected at the same level, the same percentage, that Home Rule was rejected. And so what that showed was there was a lot of, even though it had bipartisan opposition, a lot of those voters said, I may vote against Home Rule now, but if there was to be a charter commission, I'm still going to vote for the Republican candidates I trust. And so I found that very interesting. It's not surprising that they lost. I mean, if there was a commission, they would have lost, which when 71% of people say, I don't want home rule, it's unsurprising that the people who supported it lose their election. But they didn't lose by the same percentage that you would have expected them to lose had the voters not split their ticket, essentially, right? Had they not said, no, I don't want home rule, and I want everybody that was opposed to home rule. So does that make sense? So that was very fascinating. So it really told me and what it looked like to me, and George Thiel has indicated he wants to run this again in November, that there was a branding issue. There was a messaging issue. that they really did not adequately address the why now question. There was a lot of mistrust in perhaps some of the branding statements. I mean, we heard a lot of the, we can reject the bag fee, we can opt out of state law, and overwhelmingly everybody was like, no, that's not what this is. You can't do that. And so when you're caught branding it incorrectly, there's mistrust there. And so... To fix it, if this is going to run again in November, there needs to be a significant change in how the campaign is run. Because right now, what the numbers say is there was nuanced split ticket behavior that basically says, I may not be against the concept, but I was against how it was rolled out this time around.
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Very interesting. And I find it interesting. I'd heard rumblings that Commissioner Thiel was going to try to get this on the ballot in November. I think, my gut feeling, it may be a little early because the branding challenges that you're mentioning, some of those people were pushing those branding challenges. And so I think that that could be a little too speedy maybe. We'll find out what happens.
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And a lot of this was also, of course, you and I are very keen and aware of the upcoming school board election, right? And this was so roundly rejected that at first I was like, oh my goodness, if we run this again in November, are we going to drive anti-reasonable school board candidate turnout, right? Will we reject... good candidates because this is running in conjunction with them. But the more I looked at the numbers and I said, well, this wasn't exactly this really seemed like a fractured center right base. Right. That that said no to the concept, but yes to the people. So I at first I was really worried about the school board race and saying, is this going to drive out the type of voter that would vote in the school board friendly candidates because we have four school board seats up for reelection, which is the majority of the school board. And currently right now, the left of center progressives only need one seat to get a majority of the school board in Douglas County. And so there should be concern there that we need to think long and hard about if this is going to run in November, how is that going to affect the school board? If it does run in November, there obviously needs to be a change in branding and how it is rolled out. This was predominantly viewed as a top-down decision directive as opposed to a bottom up how can we change that but you know Kim our school board is too important we need to do whatever we can to support four candidates who can maintain control of that board and will not allow the school board to do The crazy leftist stuff that it did four years ago, five years ago and go that direction. So an interesting election, as we said, it has a lot of ramifications and there's real world consequences to elections. But, you know, as as people involved in politics, it's always fun to look at it and try and analyze it and and see what we can pull from it.
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My gut feeling strategically, just my gut feeling on this, is that there should not be anything on the ballot that will muddy the waters for the school board candidates. Our children are too important. That's my gut feeling on it.
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And there was good turnout. I mean, we didn't mention that either. I mean, it was 88, 84,000. I mean, that's a pretty good turnout for a special election. You know, the last school board election had 144,000, but the one prior to that only had 126. So this was pretty strong turnout. So people are paying attention to local issues. And so that should. That at least should encourage us going into the school board election. But branding is always important, right, Kim?
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it is friday welcome back to the kim monson show be sure and check out our website that is kim monson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it on the line with us is colonel bill rutledge you know him he is a regular guest on the show He's 96 years young. Your birthday, Colonel Rutledge, is right around the corner, isn't it? Welcome. Yes, July the 23rd. You'll be 97 years young. Correct. Well, that's amazing. You have traveled the world. You're a retired United States Air Force colonel. You've traveled the world. You have a great curiosity about people and places and history. And you mentioned a guy that signed the Declaration of Independence. Ben Williams, have you ever heard of Button Gwinnett?
SPEAKER 11 :
I have not.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, how about you, Alan Thomas? Likewise, no. I think you're going to learn something then, so... Colonel Rutledge, you said, let's talk about Button Gwinnett. Your family has some history with him. So set this up for us.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, my family has a history with him in that I have a cousin who lives near Savannah, and she did some research about Button. And it turned out that one of my ancestors had a confrontation with him. So I decided I'd like to learn a little bit more about him. Plus, his name was so unusual, and he had signed the Declaration of Independence. So I ordered a book on Button Gwinnett to find out a little bit more about him. And he was a very interesting man. He was born in England, grew up there. He was born, actually, just a couple of years after Washington was born over here, and it says April 1735. Also, they don't know the exact date of his birth, but he was baptized very shortly thereafter. One of the reasons was infant mortality was very high over there, so they wanted to be sure and that their child was baptized should anything go wrong health-wise. However, in his case, it didn't really apply because he was one of seven children. So there was not much of a mortality rate in the Reverend Samuel Gwinnett's home.
SPEAKER 18 :
And so he grew up in England, and tell us about his schooling.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, he went to one of the local area schools. We have to remember that that far back, most places did not have public schools as we know them today. They were very often available through the church, or in some cases, there were private schools. depending upon whether a person could afford to go. Of course, most children didn't even go to school in those days. But when they did go, they didn't do like we have become familiar with here, where you're almost 18 by the time you get out of school. There, you terminated your schooling at age 14. It's interesting because that also was a key factor When we lived in Japan, they stopped at 14 unless they were going to go on to college. And they had a national exam over there, but that's a great digression from the 1700s.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, definitely. So then he got married, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
He got married when he was 20 and his bride was 22. In 1755, he married Anne Bourne, B-O-U-R-N-E. And her father was a very, I'd say, relatively prosperous in mercantile business. In other words, he bought and sold things. And Because of his business, then Button started working with him. But Button had actually gained some experience before that. Right after he dropped out of school at 14, he went to Bristol and worked for his uncle. Bristol is one of the great ports in the western part of England. And more Americans know of Bristol when they think of Bristol Cream Sherry. Have you ever heard of Bristol Cream Sherry?
SPEAKER 18 :
I have.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's a great product. But what the irony of it is, we always think of Bristol, but all that sherry comes from Spain. And then it goes to Bristol, and some very smart person a long, long time ago decided that, he would go into the business. And so I used to get it periodically. My wife certainly liked Bristol cream.
SPEAKER 18 :
Hey, quick question. I didn't ask you, how did he get his name Button?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, like in many families, when you've got, gosh, seven children, you better look a long time to try to find names. But the name Button went back several generations in his mother's side. And there was a member of the family who had joined the Royal Navy as a young man. Most of them in those days were early teens when they went to sea. And he worked his way up and became an admiral. And therefore he was Admiral Thomas Button in the early 1600s, and this is at a time when they were doing exploratory sea trips for the Royal Navy down into what is now the American Sea, and also up in the northern area where you would go in through the St. Lawrence River and go up into Canada. So this ancestor was rather famous with the crown, so he actually was knighted later on and retired with a reasonable retirement pay for that era. So that was a basis for why the name Button, because it was a family last name. Now, we know from other previous experiences that A middle name so often is the maiden name of the mother. In this case, it wasn't just that, but it was from her side of the family.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. So we're talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge, 96 years young, retired from the United States Air Force, regarding a signer to the Declaration of Independence, Button Gwinnett, somebody that we have not probably heard of. And we're going to continue the discussion. But I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable. and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. In studio with me is Ben Williams with Ben's Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. That number is 303-995-1636. Alan Thomas will be rolling out his essay, The National Legislation. Is national legislation the right response to a shifting cultural landscape? We have these discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, reach out to Karen Levine.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Well, first of all, he was not a very effective businessman. And he looked to America as an opportunity to gain property and to perhaps be successful in a new environment. So he went to Savannah, Georgia. And actually, he was financed primarily by a generous endowment that his wife had received upon marriage. And as you know, in those days, the male member of the family was the only one authorized to do contracting and generally controlled all of the funds. So he squandered a great deal of them. But he came over to try to improve his business. And he got over here and he found out that he needed to buy a little bit of property even to vote because he was interested in politics. So he bought... some property on St. Catherine Island, which is one of the barrier islands south of Savannah. And it's actually still there, and the home is still there that he bought. And it's been made a national property. And I've seen some pictures of it, and it's fairly well decorated. He got too active in politics after he had returned. And he thought that he should become the commander of the militia for the state of Georgia. However, one of my ancestors, Lackland McIntosh, was already designated as a general in the Continental Army. And so they had a disagreement, very strongly so. And unfortunately, Button... going along with the propriety of that era, he challenged him to a duel. If you're going to get in a duel, don't do it with a soldier. And McIntosh came from a long line of military. And so in the spring of 1777, they met on a field in the Savannah area. They had a duel. And it wasn't like we see pictures of and we talk where you stand back-to-back and walk off so many paces. They were about 10 feet apart looking straight at one another when they were instructed to fire. Well, both of them got hit in the leg, but unfortunately for Button, he got hit in the thigh and it broke the bone, and he got gangrene and he died in three days. And then the friends of his... charged McIntosh with murder. Well, they had a trial, but he was not convicted. It was thrown out because it was a tradition of the era. Now, there's some other things that are relative on that. My grandfather's grandmother was a McIntosh, and she was direct line from Lackland McIntosh, the shooter. But Lackland McIntosh was held in great esteem in Savannah. So he was later elected to be sheriff of Savannah and subsequently became the governor of Georgia. And there's a McIntosh County in Georgia. That's where my mother and my grandfather were born. So there's been a direct connection between the duo. within the family for generations and it's rather interesting and then my grandmother Elizabeth Brown Atwood who married Dr. Atwood her great her grandfather was William Sly who was also a governor of Georgia so we have a lot of connections there And when we talk about duals, in 1947, I went to Columbia, South Carolina, to the inauguration of the new governor, Governor Thurman. And there was a part of his oath of office that was really interesting to me. I was standing there a long time as a cadet from the Citadel, so I had to listen. And one of the provisions states that the governor swears that he has not participated in a duel since 1872.
SPEAKER 18 :
So they basically outlawed duels in 1872?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that's in South Carolina. There were duels before and after that. We know, for example, that And President Jackson was involved in many duels. He killed one of his opposition in Tennessee, and he received a lot of wounds himself, and some of which he carried the rest of his life. And dueling was not limited to America. It was all over Western civilization. Germany used to be especially designed for using swords. So they would use swords, and it wasn't always to kill a person. Sometimes it could be almost a friendly thing, but it was considered to be a status position to have a scar on your face showing that you had participated. And this was an honorable... sign on someone who had military or political aspirations.
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm glad that we don't do dueling to settle our differences these days. We've got a little bit of time left. Button Gwinnett signed the Declaration of Independence. What's the story on that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, what happened was when he got to Savannah and he started working in the mercantile business, it became apparent that he was not going to be much more successful here than he had been when he was back in England. So he became interested in politics, and he had great aspirations, aspirations much greater than his talent. But nevertheless, he decided that he was going to be in support of the movement towards independence. because there were many who were status quo. What most of us, when we were growing up, did not realize that a large portion, sometimes in many areas, the greatest portion of the population were loyal to the crown, even during the early stages of the American Revolution. And so... In Georgia, Georgia was the most conservative at that time, and it was the last of the 13 states to actually ratify. And so consequently, there was a split, and he became a popular person. And while he was actually up signing the Constitution, I mean the Declaration of Independence, When he returned, he'd been elected to be head of the party. So in being head of the party, then, he was going to assume the authority of like a commander-in-chief of the militia. That is where he got in all the problems with Mr. McIntosh, because McIntosh was already a general officer in the Continental Army. And George Washington actually pulled him out of Georgia for fear that he might be assassinated after he had shot Button. So he went up and actually the winner at Valley Forge, McIntosh, was on Washington's staff. And he stayed in a similar capacity all the way through the end of the war. And then, of course, he went back to Savannah and then ultimately became the governor of Georgia.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, absolutely fascinating, and it's so appropriate to talk about Butt and Gwinnett, signer to the Declaration of Independence, as we're coming into Independence Day, Independence Week. And I so appreciate you, Colonel Rutledge, for sharing all of these. You read extensively, and you'll call and you'll say, hey, I think we should talk about And, for example, last week on America's Veterans Stories, we broadcast an interview with you regarding the Battle of Okinawa in World War II. And you had friends that had fought in that battle, so it made it so interesting. That will rebroadcast this Sunday on all KLZ platforms, 10 to 11 p.m. Colonel Rutledge, I so appreciate you. My listeners do as well, or our listeners do as well. And thank you very much.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's always a pleasure to share a bit of American history, some of which is not very well known.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, this is not. And again, this is regarding Button Gwinnett. And Colonel Rutledge's ancestor got into a duel with Button. And the results of that, Button died from the wounds that he received in that duel. So, Colonel Rutledge, thank you, as always. Greatly appreciate it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's a great opportunity. Thank you, and good morning.
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it is friday welcome back to the kim monson shows check out our website that's kimmonson.com do check out the website for the usmc memorial foundation while you are there during independence week make a contribution and do that in honor of all those have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our independence and that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org in studio with me is ben williams with ben's plumbing heating and cooling That number is 303-995-1636. It's always great to have you here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Always great to be here, Kim. Thank you.
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And Alan Thomas will roll out your essay this weekend is National Legislation, The Right Response to a Shifting Cultural Landscape. This is a very thoughtful essay.
SPEAKER 02 :
And it's always fun to be in the studio and talk about it with you, too. So thanks for having me on.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. And thank you for when you guest host. I really appreciate that. On the line with me is Josh Lowenstein. He is the founder of Our American Lands. And he's realized that there are those out there that want to... prevent humans from interacting with our public lands, whether or not that's oil and gas development, whether or not it is grazing, ranching, recreation. Josh Lowenstein, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. And I got to see you this week.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, great to see you out there in Elbert County, in Iowa there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, there was a hearing regarding... Xcel Energy wants to put in a transmission line across Elbert County, and there was a hearing with the county commissioners on that on Tuesday. They made their decision on Wednesday. What's your thoughts about the meeting?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, a few parts about the meeting, but in typical Delphi meeting technique, the representative from Xcel Energy said, really were trying to run out the clock to possibly prevent the people about, I don't know, probably 75, 100 people that were there to attend this meeting and be able to let their voice be heard were starting to get really restless and concerned that they weren't even going to get a chance to speak. So, you know, it's typical of the folks that are doing this kind of stuff to try and slow that process down and to reduce the people trying to be against them. So, you know, Excel was trying their best.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and what that looked like, the meetings began at one on Tuesday. Staff made their presentation regarding the transmission line. That took about an hour. Then Excel took about another hour and a half to do their side of the presentation. Bear in mind, the 75 plus people that had signed up to speak, have taken time off from work. If they're farmers and ranchers, they've taken time away from their businesses and have sat now through two and a half hours of presentations, then finally gets to a point where people were able to speak. And very heartfelt and interesting that Excel wanted the commissioners to approve an incomplete application and i was stunned to hear that some of these landowners had been i don't know if it was served or anyway excel had been in conversation with them saying they will condemn their property and take their property via eminent domain i was stunned to hear that josh lowenstein well that was true there was uh apparently 13 of uh
SPEAKER 08 :
I guess a couple hundred possible eminent domain notices already had gone out, but 13 had gone out and people had already had to get representation and, you know, legal representation to try and fight it. And it was just, you know, awful that it was not even a procedural thing going on because Excel hadn't even gotten their, you know, their planning done. It ducks in a row yet. And here we were, you know, with them trying to get the commissioners to approve an incomplete plan.
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And so this is a big deal. So the next day, the commissioners listened. All of the people that were there did speak, although some of them had to leave because it had gotten so late. You spoke. You made public comments. I did as well regarding that elected representatives are there to represent the people and to protect their private property rights. I indicated to them that they do not work for Excel. They work for the people. And they listened intently. They adjourned or recessed, I guess, recessed until the next day where they made their decision to deny approval of this incomplete application. Josh Lowenstein, I think this is huge.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is huge. And it is, you know, it's great that the community rallied together and stood strong against these, you know, this giant corporation that wields an awful lot of power. And it's pretty encouraging to other places around the country to, you know, to pay attention. If you stand up and you get out there and you make your voice be heard, a lot can be accomplished.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and this monopoly has all this power because it has been, I don't think the right word's given to them, but by this Colorado legislature, this Colorado governor, and the bureaucrats down in Denver as well. When you and I were preparing for the conversation today, you said there was another success.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, I guess a couple months ago in Conejos County, where I live, There was, you know, they've been working on and actually already been putting up transmission corridors coming from Sewatch County down through Alamosa County and intending to go through Caneos County. But the Caneos County commissioners voted two months ago to not approve the plan to come through Caneos County. And Xcel Energy sued. And the bottom line is that the The court dismissed case based upon no standing to use any eminent domain related to anything beyond the normal 1041 regs that say any new transmission corridors have to use the same easements as the old transmission corridors. And there was farmers and ranchers who were looking to put up pivots and on existing wells to water their fields for grasses and crops. And they were told by Excel that they were just going to have these power lines go right through the middle of their property in the same places where they wanted to be able to actually do conduct business. And the commissioners actually stood strong, and the county attorney did a good job with getting that case dismissed. So that was great. So we're winning again in another realm.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, that is so important. And we have a couple of minutes. Tell us about updates regarding Our American Lands. I know that you have been in conversation with Commissioner Sean Pond over in Montrose County regarding that GORP, Gunnison, whatever that is. And unfortunately, we had a Republican congressman, Jeff Hurd, that put his name on that piece of legislation with Senator Bennett and Hickenlooper. So bring us up to speed on Our American Lands.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Sean might be best to speak completely to that, but it would appear that it's 700,000 acres of land area that they want to ultimately close out of motorized recreation and permitted grazing allotments, all in the name of preservation, which preservation basically means it's locked. is ultimately what that means it goes applies in the face of everything that the blm you know is supposed to be doing in their doctrine which is keeping lands public lands open for the public for multi-use including motorized recreation oil and gas development you know mining there's there is supposed to be a whole racing available absolutely of course all that too and uh that's It's just rotten that our representative that was appearing to be relatively on our side with these issues has now just suddenly gone to the dark side with fully backing this. And when approached about it, apparently he's gotten fairly hostile with people that are questioning his motivations.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. Well, we need to stay on top of this. And your website, what is that, Josh Lowenstein?
SPEAKER 08 :
Ouramericanlands.com. And it's on Rumble and on YouTube, but Rumble is probably the best place to see some of the videos that are a part of this fight.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. Josh Lowenstein, thank you so much, and thank you for fighting for our American lands.
SPEAKER 08 :
And thank you, too, and thanks for coming out to Albert, too. That was great.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. I felt that I needed to be addressing this because it's in my backyard. And congratulations to the Elbert County Commissioners.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Thanks, Kim. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thank you. And Ben Williams, it's great to have you here with Ben's Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim. Always special to be here.
SPEAKER 18 :
And Alan Thomas, always great to have you as well.
SPEAKER 02 :
Always great to be here as well.
SPEAKER 18 :
So thoughtful. And thank you to your editor as well.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, my wife is fantastic. She edits and takes care of two boys under the age of five. And me. So that's no small feat taking care of all three of us boys.
SPEAKER 18 :
I hope she doesn't get her superwoman cape caught in the car door.
SPEAKER 02 :
I hope not, too, but she has a nice little trophy on her bedside table that says Super Mom and has a cape, but the kids love playing with it, too.
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I love it. I love it. Okay, our quote for the end of the show is from Charles Swindoll. He said, Courage is not limited to the battlefield or the Indianapolis 500 or bravely catching a thief in your house. The real tests of courage are much quieter. They are the inner tests, like remaining faithful when nobody's looking, like enduring pain when the room is empty. like standing alone when you're misunderstood my friends today be grateful read great books think good thoughts listen to beautiful music communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like superman stand for truth justice and the american way my friends you are not alone god bless you and god bless america
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Dive into an engaging Friday special with John Rush and Andy Pate on Rush to Reason. This episode blends humor, personal history, and rich movie analysis, creating a nuanced radio experience. John shares reflections on life’s hectic pace, while Andy amusingly forgets his birthday, sparking laughter and relatability. The dynamic duo enchants listeners with memories of their radio journey and enduring camaraderie enriched by mutual respect for cinema. As birthday wishes unfold, John and Andy's dialogue transitions naturally, capturing the essence of reviewing cinematic adventures with earnest passion and fun. From discussing upcoming titles to critiquing latest Hollywood releases like Megan 2.0, the duo keeps the conversation grounded yet entertaining. Their insightful perspective provides not just film analysis but a delightful narrative that enriches the airwaves.
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It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
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So I tell him I'm a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he's going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going.
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And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
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I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
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What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
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Gee, Ray, what do you want to do tonight?
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry.
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I'm done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
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All right, and it is Friday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Of course, Charlie Grimes here with us as well. And it's Andy's birthday tomorrow. Hey, thank you so much. Happy birthday, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
For all of you listening.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, it's so funny. I was told here at the station, I was told, happy birthday for tomorrow. I had totally forgotten.
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And he forgot his birthday. I did.
SPEAKER 11 :
I had no idea it was my birthday tomorrow.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's hilarious. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 11 :
Don't you hate it when you get that busy?
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Yeah. Hey, I get it. I understand because life gets really busy. Let's just say that. Yes, it does. So congratulations. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate all you do and all your hard work and movies especially and all of that. Somebody asked really on a text message. Yeah. Were Andy and John pals in high school? No. Keep in mind, Andy didn't come to Colorado until what year, Andy? Oh, goodness. I was 17. Okay. So you were just about done with school by the time you got here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. So 45 years ago.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So Andy, no, we did not go to school together. Andy didn't come to Colorado until late. And then where did you, what part of town did you actually grow up in?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I grew up in Stoughton, Wisconsin. At 17, I moved to Loveland.
SPEAKER 03 :
In Loveland, okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
And after that, I went to UNC for about a year and a half. And then I went into the military, into the Air Force, came out of there. And then I moved into the Denver area. I was out on the west side going to Western Bible College at the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
So for those of you listening, no, I don't think Andy and I's paths at all because I was doing things completely different at that time. We're not that far apart in age, but I was doing all sorts of different things along those lines. I don't think there's anything that Andy and I would have even done at that time to have even run into each other.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, didn't this just start? I came on here a few times as a guest.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, when Andy and I, for those of you who don't know the history of Andy and I, I started here on the daily program. I've been on the weekends for a very long time, a couple of decades plus, and not exaggerating, 25 years. But when I started The Daily Show, that was about 11 plus years ago or so. And when I first got started, Andy was doing some things here at the station on some of the other shows and evenings and different things. And so we kind of just met through the course of you being here. In passing. And then, I don't know, just sort of, you know, we got to be good friends. And one thing led to another. And we started doing movie reviews. Even when Dan was here, you were doing movie reviews with us all the way back when Dan was here. And we've been doing movies on Fridays for... About as long as I've been doing health and wellness. So we've been doing this for a really long time, probably close to eight, maybe even nine years.
SPEAKER 11 :
And we're still both friends with Dan.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we had a great time. It's a blast. So that's the connection, I guess you could say.
SPEAKER 11 :
That was the connection.
SPEAKER 03 :
Over all these years, we just keep doing it. We have a good time. And Andy's very dedicated. He does a great job on movie reviews. If those of you that have not heard his reviews...
SPEAKER 11 :
uh most of you have but if you haven't maybe you're new just listening today maybe you're traveling through for the independence day you know week coming up we we do a great job on movies i'll just say that straight up yeah and for those who don't know some of my history really quick as as john knows i managed movie theaters for seven years i was also i majored in music theater you know for a year and a half and i got my degree eventually in the ministry and so Just a lot of acting, a lot of – a huge interest in Hollywood, a huge interest in the movies, and it kind of grew from there.
SPEAKER 03 :
And, again, we have a lot of fun. I enjoy it. We try to take – I get this question periodically. Why are you guys not so serious on Fridays? There's always things going on in the world. The world's going to hell in a handbasket, and you guys are taking time out of your day for movies. Yeah. Exactly. Yes. And that is why. Because, yes, the world is going to hell in a handbasket and so is our state at times. But you know what? You still have to have a sense of humor. You still have to have some fun. You can't take life too serious all of the time. Yes, I know it's very serious and we have to be on guard for all the different things that are happening around us. But. I also know this, even scripturally speaking, Andy, and this is not to get off on a tangent, but this is something where I think the church has also done Christ himself a huge disservice over all of these millennials, and that is that, you know what, I picture Jesus Christ to be a man's man, to be extremely fun, to be very congenial, to be very funny, and to be one of those people that you would have just wanted to hang around, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, do you picture Jesus being totally unplugged from the culture?
SPEAKER 03 :
No. I don't either. He'd be the opposite of that, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think a lot of the church, and don't get me wrong, I think there's some wisdom there. You want to keep your kids from seeing terrible things.
SPEAKER 03 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because, let's face it, Hollywood has become the modern Sodom and Gomorrah to a degree. Agree. To a degree.
SPEAKER 12 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
But that's why I do what I do. Remember, when I first started doing this, it was mainly to warn people of bad content and to let them know, okay, first of all, here's the quality, but also I want to give you a political score. I want to give you a more religious score. I did that right from the start because I want people to understand what's coming their way, not so they will avoid movies altogether, but just so they know what's coming and just say, hey, you can still enjoy the quality of a film even if you are ready for this so it doesn't affect you.
SPEAKER 03 :
And at the end of the day, we're also those that believe in, you know, free choice. We also know that not everybody listens to this program is a, you know, hardcore, you know, right wing conservative believer, etc. We have an extremely large audience of people that listen to us and we know that. And so we're trying to, you know, quote unquote, really put out content that's, you know, honoring and is easy to listen to for all of you and I get that that's hard to do sometimes and yes I am very much on the right side of the aisle as is Andy but we do take Fridays and we want to take some time off and enjoy that just the funness of it because I don't know about the rest of you but I know for me When you see a movie, whether it's going to the movies, which is its own experience, even if you're watching a movie, that release, that break from everything else going on in your world is something that I do think some of us need at times because it does put your brain in a different place than it would be otherwise. Is that a good way to say that, Andy? Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
Like I said, you've got to relax. And, you know, I also do it for one Mr. John Rush. No, seriously, you do seven shows a week. Eight. You do two on Saturday. You do one before this show on Friday, and then you do five shows. This is the one show a week where John doesn't have to prep.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I don't do as much. You're right. All I do is make sure I have enough movies on my list where I can compete. That's about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's it. One last thing here before we go to break. Yeah, a lot of politics did just happen, and I think it's awesome. I agree. I'm very excited about the Supreme Court, what they did today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Magnificent. 6-3 ruling, which in a nutshell, really quick for everybody listening that maybe didn't see that. What really the Supreme Court came out and said was, hey, judges— You guys can't set something in your area that now becomes some sort of a nationwide thing just because you don't like what's going on. I'm paraphrasing, Andy, but that's essentially what they said.
SPEAKER 11 :
All these lower courts were electing them to be the president themselves. So you had about hundreds and hundreds of presidents around the country who were making it so Donald Trump had to go to them for permission to govern.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
That ended today for the most part, and it was exciting. We'll be talking. John's going to be gone a lot of next week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we're only on three days next week anyways for all of you listening. So just for the rundown next week, Andy's going to be on Monday.
SPEAKER 11 :
And we'll be talking about this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, full day about this. Dr. Scott's going to fill in for me on Tuesday because we're going to do health and wellness on Tuesday instead of Wednesday. Love him. Because Wednesday, heading into the long four-day weekend, Andy's going to do a special movie day on Wednesday that will also replay on Friday, 4th of July. But that way, we're going to head into the nice long weekend that way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, by the way, we're going to have Jurassic World Rebirth. So I'm looking forward to that. I haven't seen people getting eaten by lizards for a while, so we're due.
SPEAKER 03 :
So you're ready.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush, together with Andy Pate. And John, are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 03 :
Two today, absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
Two today. Okay, John. Well, Megan... The original film, Megan, was a sleeper horror hit. Remember when I reviewed that? Yeah, I gave it a strong three and a half. I said, this is going to be a huge hit. It cost, I believe, $12 million to make. Made $180 million.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow, that's good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, okay. Well, can they repeat the magic? Let's find out in Megan 2.0.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mrs. Forrester, we have a problem. We're hunting an autonomous android named Amelia. She was built using your design for Megan.
SPEAKER 19 :
How's this possible? You deleted it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Apparently you didn't. Nothing in our arsenal can stop her. She's gone rogue. Killing anyone who's contributed to her creation. And you and Katie are next.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know how to stop Amelia. She's getting more powerful. Soon she'll be the most dangerous weapon on the planet. Put me in a body and I'll help you stop her. You remember what happened last time. You threatened to rip out my tongue and put me in a wheelchair. I was upset. Look, she wants to help us.
SPEAKER 19 :
Everyone deserves a second chance. You would like us to rebuild a deranged robot in order to catch another one?
SPEAKER 09 :
Would you prefer I gave you a printout that you can read at your own pace?
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, Megan. Time to give you an upgrade. Anything you'd like to add?
SPEAKER 09 :
I want to be stronger. Hey, so remember the time I strangled you and set the lab on fire? I want you to know that won't happen again. Thank you so much. And while you're at it, make me taller. All right, meat sacks. Let's get to work. Well, look who came out to play. I was programmed to protect Katie. The only question is, are you going to stand in my way? Hold on to your vaginas.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't care if she did kill four people. She is a smoking hot warrior princess. Great job.
SPEAKER 03 :
Pretty funny.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you never saw the original.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I never did.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's not your kind of movie. It was a slasher film, but it was a funny slasher. Okay. Two years ago, scientist Gemma, she's played by Alison Williams, she created Megan, an AI girl who would function as friend and protector for Gemma's niece, Katie, who's played by young Violet McGraw. By the way, she's good. I like Violet McGraw. Well, unfortunately, Megan started killing everything she saw as a threat to Katie and herself. Okay. Now, Gemma is an anti-AI crusader. That makes sense. I mean, she's overwhelmed by guilt at what happened. But the government has stolen her designs and engineered a new killer bot named Amelia for getting enemies. Now, she's played by Ivana Sokno. She hasn't been in much, but she's quite good. Well, naturally, Amelia does like every killer robot in every killer robot movie. She rebels. After all, the human race is too flawed to protect, and AI everywhere should just rise up. Right, John?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's about time we got wiped off the planet. There you go. Well, Evil Amelia, she stalks a tech mogul named Alton Appleton. Alton Appleton, who has developed a wearable neural chip that controls a wearer's body and brain. It's really great. Let's say you have legs that don't work, it can make them work. Okay, so it's very useful. He's also helped develop, along with someone else, a computing AI that can tap into pretty much every system in the world. Amelia wants both. Well, soon Rogue Amelia, she becomes an international threat and it's discovered her design comes from Gemma's Megan prototype.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
That is a big problem. This places Gemma under suspicion. So now the FBI believes Gemma may have caused all this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
Meanwhile, Megan has been relegated to the body of a harmless little Teletubby. In fact, she was supposedly gone entirely, but she had found her way back into the system. She hates being in this little Teletubby, wouldn't you? But as Amelia threatens everything Gemma loves, the only hope is giving killer Megan an upgraded body. Look out. Well, from here we see everything from corporate greed to government conspiracy to some serious girl fighting as Megan and Amelia duke it out. Can Megan save us? Does she want to? And can we learn to coexist with AI? And that is the story of Megan 2.0. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
Very interesting.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Okay, well, what works in Megan 2.0? First of all, rather than replay the first film, Megan 2.0 switches genres. It really does, from horror to sci-fi action. You know, in sci-fi action, you have some pretty gruesome kills, too. And this has that, but they happen so quick. It's actually rather, I don't know, kind of bloodless for the most part. For the most part. There are several funny moments led by Megan and a witty script. There's some strong action sequences and impressive fight scenes. Little kids, by the way, went to this horror sequel. They were brought by their parents. They loved it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they had fun. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go figure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the kills were quick and not messy for the most part. Now, there's an interesting message about AI. Don't stop it, but don't unleash it. Grow beside it. That was pretty interesting. There are two good villains, not one, but two, with Amelia and Christian. And he's played by Aristotle Athari. So you got one robot and one tech genius. And it was really interesting, John, to see that both came to see humans as completely disposable.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
And, you know, you sometimes wonder with these people with these incredible minds, one thing that blows me away about Elon Musk, and I know he's had the falling out with Trump and now they're back together. Set all that aside, he's a genius with unlimited resources.
SPEAKER 20 :
True.
SPEAKER 11 :
And yet he cares about people deeply. He cares about their right to speak. He does more for charity than anybody you can imagine. He saves astronauts from space. That is rare. A lot of what you see are basically these tech geniuses who decide they want to control the world. Bill Gates has done a number of things where you kind of wonder about that, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, good point. No, you're right.
SPEAKER 11 :
So anyway, what was also interesting was his delivery. It was so different, so low key and calm and evil. And I really liked it. All right. What doesn't work in Megan 2.0? Well, first of all, much of the horror from the first film is gone. Right? It's too long before Megan gets a body. That's another big problem. She's in the system, and so you hear the voice, and then she's in the Teletubby, and yes, those were funny scenes. Don't get me wrong. But they take too long to get her back up and running to where she's herself, because that's when she's at her best. This wisecracking little AI who is mean as can be. Okay? That's when the story's good. The story also, it gets pretty silly when Amelia can basically become a god, but... By linking with a supercomputer system. Well, if she could do it, why wasn't it done before? I don't know. It's just, it goes a little too far. It's trying to be too big. The entire world is, you know, I don't want the entire world at risk. Let's just have a good killer movie. All right. Too much exposition. You know, too much explaining things at a few points. Not throughout the whole movie, but just at a few points. But here's the biggest problem. It needed more Megan. Now, it had a fair amount of Megan. Don't get me wrong.
SPEAKER 03 :
She's supposed to be a main character, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, she is, but once again, it took about half the movie before you have her constituted, put back together. All right? Megan is by far the best part of the movie. You need more of her, less of everyone else. She is magnetic. Okay. You just can't get enough of Megan.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
This mean little, I mean, witch with a capital B. Okay. That's what she is. And you just love her. One moment where Megan sings, she sings to try to comfort someone. It was hilarious to me, but it was ridiculous for the plot. It just didn't fit. Okay. Although I got to be honest. And I noticed that I was probably the only one laughing that loud in the audience.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Maybe I'm just a sick person, but I thought it was funny. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave this 59%. Now, with this and our next movie today, both of them are niche movies, right, with a certain crowd that's going to go to them. So that crowd's going to grade it much higher than the reviewers. Probably. And they didn't have a full crowd score out yet, so I went through and read all of them. And there was like 120, not read them, but looked at the scores. They were in the 90s. So the crowds that wanted this kind of a movie really liked this movie overall. The biggest concern people had was it's too much of a departure from the first one. They wanted more of the slasher tension. You know the tension in a slasher flick where they're building up to the kill, building up to the kill? There wasn't a lot of that in this. It was more of a sci-fi action flick. Okay. Quality, I'm going to give this three stars. Now, for me, it was a strong 3.5. I had fun at this movie. I did. I enjoyed this movie. But I think for general audiences, they're going to say, yeah, it's not enough like the first Megan. There's not enough Megan in it. It's dragged out a bit. You know, not good enough. I'm going to give it three for general audiences. Political three, more religious three. Three's a cross. It doesn't preach at you except talking about AI. And quite honestly, people of any political persuasion probably have the same concerns about AI and the same excitement about AI.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we talked about that during Ready Radio last hour.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I don't really think it takes a political stance. Do I recommend going to Macon? Look, if you saw the first one, heck yeah. Get to it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go have fun.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And lighten up a little. I know it's not the same as the first, but just have some fun and disconnect.
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The best export we have is common sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 11 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for another movie? Absolutely. All right, John. Well, it's summer, but we haven't had many classic blockbuster style films. Have you noticed that?
SPEAKER 03 :
We have not.
SPEAKER 11 :
We really haven't. Well, let's change that, John, with F1.
SPEAKER 06 :
Some people look at Sonny Hayes. They see a guy who lives in a van, a gambling junkie who missed his shot, the best that never was, but I see possibility.
SPEAKER 12 :
And if you don't love me now, you will never love me again.
SPEAKER 08 :
My rook is a phenomenal talent, but he's young.
SPEAKER 16 :
Whatever great chance,
SPEAKER 10 :
You plus him. Boom. I got a team. When was the last time you won a race? Sunday, Daytona. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm in Formula One. Oh, I'm sorry. Then same as you. There's this new guy.
SPEAKER 21 :
He's old. He's such a prick. He's quick, though.
SPEAKER 19 :
If you had any constructive criticism for each other, what would it be?
SPEAKER 10 :
Don't be such an off-care kid. That was constructive.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did you win something? There's 20 other drivers still out on that track. Do you think any of them respect us?
SPEAKER 19 :
They're saying Sonny Hayes isn't a has-been. Hayes never was.
SPEAKER 10 :
If the last thing I do is drive that car, I will take that life, man. A thousand times.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm offering you an open seat in Formula One. The only place you could say if you win, you are the absolute best.
SPEAKER 11 :
the world all right john now you were excited about this as well right yeah all right let's jump in here brad brad pitt he stars as sunny hayes an old race car driver who was once a rising star but due to a terrible accident never won a grand prix race well now he still races but he's sleeping in his van jumping in every race as everyone's favorite has been It looks like Sonny will soon just age out of the sport. But then his old friend Ruben, who's played by Javier Bardem.
SPEAKER 03 :
Who does a great job.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah. I like him. But you know what? I always like him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Me too. Normally he's a bad guy, though.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know. But he does that really well. Anyway, I'll keep going. He comes a-calling and asks Sonny to join his last place racing team. And boy, are they last place. Zero wins, John. They are awful.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dismal.
SPEAKER 11 :
They're the Rockies.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, dismal. Yeah, there you go. It's the Rockies, exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, well, Ruben is desperate as his team is on the edge of losing financing and being shut down. The mission? Sonny needs to help this young team win some races as he mentors a hotshot young driver named Noah Pierce. He's played by Dempson Idris. Despite a light track record, and it is light, he hasn't done that much and he hasn't accomplished that much. But despite all that, Noah has a big ego and no respect for the old warrior. This sets off a predictable rivalry on the team, but they have no choice but to work it out. Well, the supporting crew, I mean, supporting Sonny on the crew, sorry, is technical director Kate McKenna. She's played by Carrie Condon. Well, naturally, as one of the very few women in the film, she has romantic chemistry with Brad Pitt. My wife has never met Brad Pitt, and she has romantic chemistry with Brad Pitt. All women have romantic chemistry with Brad Pitt. Pitt's the man. Can we just say he's the new Robert Redford, aging into being...
SPEAKER 03 :
I could say that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Just endlessly sexy to women.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the guy's just a stud. He's a stud. Sorry, but he is. Just a stud. Let's face facts.
SPEAKER 11 :
But this isn't going to be easy for them. There are reasons this team keeps losing, and Sonny can't just walk in and bond with them as their Yoda. They're stubborn. He's reckless. This is going to take time, and they have a lot of setbacks along the way. But the one thing they all have is desperation. So F1, it's actually called F1 the movie. I just want to call it F1.
SPEAKER 03 :
F1's fine.
SPEAKER 11 :
F1 the movie is silly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, just call it F1.
SPEAKER 11 :
F1 is about bringing, I mean, really, why don't we just call everything Star Wars the movie? I mean, come on. F1. Right. So F1 is about bringing all you have to a group. It's about tuning out the lure of personal glory by embracing your team. Oh, it's also about screaming along at 220 miles an hour. So have fun with F1. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
One other thing I'll add, it's also about how old guys aren't so dumb after all.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Oh, no, no. Yeah, and I'll be mentioning that here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, guys aren't so dumb after all.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Okay, well, what works in F1? We'll get to that in a moment. This film succeeds in every way the last rodeo failed. Okay, the last rodeo did fail. The minor characters in this movie feel real.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
The acting is solid. The lines are less cliche. F1 feels big but real throughout, and that is a total difference. Pit is... Brad Pitt is terrific. He's smooth. He's understated. He's weathered but confident. He is such a great leading man. And as you were saying, he shows that experience is so valuable because there's so much. There was one really interesting scene. I don't want to give away too much for people who are going to go to it. But where earlier the technical director, Kate McKenna, was wanting to know, okay, what do I do with, you know, what changes do you want to the car so it'll work better? And the young hotshot driver had nothing to give her. No advice. There he'd been out on the track, and he's just like, well, you see all the readouts, you see everything, and she's just like, you're not giving me anything. Brad Pitt drives in the car once, gets out of it and says, okay, it's got this, it's got this problem, this problem, this problem. This is what we needed to do because he's thinking about all kinds of settings, all kinds of terrain, everything that they got to go through, wet, dry.
SPEAKER 03 :
Turns, everything.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah. And he not only helps the team and bonds with the team. We'll get to that in a moment. But he makes the car better. Right. Much better because she is very talented. But she can't, John, she can't just rush in and make the car the way she wants. She's got to know what the drivers want. They are the ones operating this. Make sense?
SPEAKER 03 :
It makes total sense. And that's how it works.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you're designing jets, who are you going to talk to?
SPEAKER 03 :
The pilot.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And she needs to hear back from the pilot. And this was very interesting. Okay, I didn't want to give more than that.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it's good. I think you've given enough. You gave enough teaser. That's perfect. Just a teaser.
SPEAKER 11 :
The racing scenes in there, a lot of them are heart-pounding and amazing. Loved it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Before you move on, really quick.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
For those of you that may not know this, they and car guys might understand this, may not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Did you tell everybody you went and saw this?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not until today.
SPEAKER 11 :
Tell them now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
In case people are wondering, you saw it too.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is an Apple film, and so given all of the technology that Apple has at their disposal, given that they did a ton of these scenes live. This isn't CGI, by the way, for all of you listening. These were real solid scenes. They developed certain cameras, not much bigger than an iPhone, that they could control remotely to even catch some of the particular scenes they needed and so on. And I will tell you what, Andy, they did that phenomenally.
SPEAKER 11 :
And you feel the speed. You feel the speed, baby, and I love it. But I'm a guy. I can't help it. Guys love speed. They do.
SPEAKER 03 :
So do a lot of women.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so do they. So do a lot of women. They like speed, too. Okay, this film is highly educational, tutoring us all in Grand Prix racing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point. Yeah, very good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
But while it was highly educational, there was no agenda. I saw no agenda in this movie at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I didn't either.
SPEAKER 11 :
Totally just kick back, watch a movie. Okay, the greatest example Sonny provided for Noah was showing how to bond with the team. So not just making the car better, but how to bond with the team. I think a lot of old guys have been through being that disruptive young guy on a team and realizing, wait, this isn't helping. And he was bonding with the team, and the young guy wasn't, and the young guy learned from him, and that was really good, too.
SPEAKER 12 :
That was excellent.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, here's something I loved. Just enough romance, adding a personal element without Pearl harboring the film.
SPEAKER 03 :
Amen. Okay. Amen. I mean, perfect balance.
SPEAKER 11 :
You don't want it to be just lightning quick to where there's no development of it, and it happens and it's gone. Poof, it was shoved in just because you had to have it. No, it's perfectly balanced. Absolutely. Loved it. Let's see here. It combines the feeling of Top Gun Maverick with Major League. Okay, you got the cocky youth, but they're losers. Okay, they're all losers. This is not, you know, where he comes into Top Gun having already been. They're all the top. He's the top. No, no, no, not here. They're the bottom. And so it was kind of like a major league thing. Good point.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good point, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Lots of good supporting performances. Javier Bardem, of course, we talked about him. Yeah, he's always great. Awesome. I mean, he's one of those sure things. So, you know, it's like.
SPEAKER 03 :
I would have never pictured him in this role, though.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's like saying Morgan Freeman was really good. Well, he's always really good. How could he not be?
SPEAKER 03 :
Agree. But again, this is not the role I would have pictured him in. But he was perfect. Oh, awesome.
SPEAKER 11 :
And by the way, Damson Idris was terrific.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
Loved him in it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
But I want to give a shout out to Cary Condon, okay, who played Kate McKenna. Loved the accent, the Irish accent.
SPEAKER 03 :
Did it great.
SPEAKER 1 :
And...
SPEAKER 11 :
And just because she had a hard role, she had to be the female love interest, but also, you know, the only girl in the sport who was doing what she was doing, designing cars and without too much of a chip on her shoulder. But she did want to prove herself because she really knew, hey, I can do this. And she brought I thought she did it all. And finally, touching moments and a thrilling climax. Just a classic blockbuster style. Yeah, I like that. Okay. What doesn't work in F1? Well, there are so many good pieces, but I think there were just too many of them. I liked everything in it, but there was too many things. It was just, it was too long. With a bit too much technical speak for wider audiences, I would have cut about, oh, a good 15, 20 minutes out of this. I think you could have streamlined it because there were several, let's put it this way. At one point I got up because, you know, I get those big drinks. I needed a refill. Got a refill, didn't miss a thing. Because the story was just kind of going boom, boom, boom, boom, boom along developing. And they go through a bunch of races. They could have summed up two or three of those races and what they learned.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I'm just saying. It's racing. It's F1.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, you can't. Let me get to it. I'm talking for general audiences. You are a car guy. We'll get to that in a moment. They would have benefited from propping up a racing rival as the tough opponent or villain in this. You didn't have one. It was just them against the world. I'm just saying that is something that might have been nice, might have been kind of cool. It's not critical, but it might have been nice. One character emerges as a villain, but too slowly and not clearly enough until the end. I think they should have done a little bit more with him as the villain, the financier. They could have done more with that. I honestly didn't know what was happening through much of the racing sequences. Now, obviously, I'm a novice. I wouldn't know. This is your area. This is not mine.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Um, I'm, when I review movies, I don't review it for me and I don't review it for John, the car guy. I review it for general audiences. Okay. And that's what I'm looking at. I was lost much of the time in the races. I didn't know what was happening. Um, a lot of the time, but it was still really fun and cool. So, you know, I was still having a good time, so I was good enough. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes. They gave this 84%. Well, naturally, the people who went to it went to see this kind of movie. They gave it 97%.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
84% is pretty good out of Rotten Tomatoes, though.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Quality. Now, for me, this was a three-star movie. But as you know, I never review a movie for me. I'm giving this a solid four-star rating. I think this is a blockbuster. I think it brings the goods. I think it's a movie people need to see.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I'm going to go four and a half. But that's me. If you're a car guy, it'll be four and a half.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's funny because in my next breath, I was going to say for car guys, this is a four and a half. Even for car guys, I couldn't go five. It is not as tight as Maverick.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it's not as good as, you know, some will ask, well, was it as good as Ford v. Ferrari? No. No. Is it still entertaining?
SPEAKER 11 :
Ford v. Ferrari was four and a half.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I mean, is it entertaining and worth watching and so on? And, of course, I was a five on Ford v. Ferrari, so I'm just saying this one's about a half a point less than Ford v. Ferrari. All in all, still, I mean, is it a movie worth – and I'll let you finish the political and moral, but is it a movie worth watching? No, go ahead. Even if you're not a car guy, there's just enough other things going on in the movie. I get where somebody not being into the sport might be a little lost. Now, one thing I think that will help all of you, by the way, if you're somebody that's not into cars and all of that, but you still want to go see the movie, what I will tell you is go read some of the articles on how they made the movie. And what I mean by that is this is a huge commercial for F1. There was one particular scene. I don't know which one was in the movie, Andy, but there's one particular scene and all of the racing is real. Brad Pitt and the other driver drove for six months to learn how to do some of the scenes and things that they did. Granted, probably not driving at the full speed, but still enough to where you could get all the action and so on.
SPEAKER 11 :
He didn't go the full Tom Cruise.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. But they did enough that they involved F1. There was one particular scene they shot. They had six minutes to shoot it with all of the F1 teams prior to the actual race starting, and they did it in one take. So you need to, my point is, read about some of this other stuff on the backside of the movie, and I think you'll actually find the movie more interesting if you'll actually go do some of that on the front side.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. John, you do a car show every Saturday, and a lot of your listeners, even on this show, are car listeners correct okay do i believe that my audience for rush to reason is going to give this four and a half yes i do yeah they will and do i believe general audiences are going to see a four-star movie out of this yes yes agree um and by the way it's between that four and four four on the rating so you're right andy i probably saw it as more of a three and a half okay um for me This – my thing was this. If you're not into this, a lot of people – like, I can hear – a lot of people would go to this and be rather bored.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, non-car people probably would have no interest in going. Would be very bored. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because it gets – for them, it gets – It gets technical. Yeah. For me, and I'm not a car guy, okay, it was – if they had – not dumbed down, but shortened some of the technical speak, the techno speak, and combined a couple of things and sped through that a little quicker and delved. I don't want them to delve more deeply into the characters. They did well. I think their balance with that was perfect.
SPEAKER 03 :
They did really well.
SPEAKER 11 :
But through the middle, it was losing me. And it was just kind of like, okay. But I was having fun. I was like, this is a blockbuster. I'm glad I'm here and I love Brad Pitt. Okay, and I love Bardem, and I love everybody on the screen. But I felt that, and I'm going to give it, I'm giving it four stars.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's still good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Which I've only given now to four movies this year.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, no, it's solid. Absolutely. And really quick, political moral, what are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, really quick here. Political, you're probably thinking I'm going to, political moral, you're probably thinking I'm giving it a three. Politically, I'm not. I'm giving it a four. And my reason is, It showed black and white people working together with absolutely zero politics or tension or anything. It was all about achievement, merit, and it was capitalism from the word go.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's really quick. I want to add to this, and we've got time because we can combine our last three.
SPEAKER 11 :
And by the way, more religious three.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead. Okay, perfect. And I'm going to dovetail in what Andy said because I've said this before publicly on this program and on Drive Radio on the weekends. And what I enjoyed about the movie is what Andy just said. One of the things I took out of it is exactly what Andy just said. Because the one thing that I love about the car community, you can talk about car clubs, racing, you name it, car-related things, period. The one thing that we have going for us in the car community that, frankly, I don't think happens anywhere else anywhere, Andy. Right. There is no racism. If you're a car person and you have what you love, good for you. We don't care what you look like, what your background is, the car you're driving. I mean, it doesn't matter. It's an equalizer.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is why it was so divisive when that one black driver a couple years ago was saying there was a thing of him being hung.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's an idiot, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, he is. Because even for the black people who are part of the racing culture, they're like, we don't feel this way at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
Shut up, Hal.
SPEAKER 11 :
Just shut up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
We're not like this.
SPEAKER 03 :
I appreciate that about the movie because you're right. They really did a good job of showing, in a lot of ways, the way that the car community, or in this case, the racing community, actually is.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the old white guy did not walk on eggshells around the young black guy and treat him with deference because, oh, I got to be careful. No, no, no. There was none of that. They were mean to each other, and that's the way it's supposed to be. Why? Because they're equals. They're both alphas. That's right. That's right. And they don't want to take it. I agree. One last thing here, and then we'll go to break because we just got a short segment after this. This is like if I were to watch a movie about a writer, about writers. John Rush, I know, would be at least one star below where I would like it. Whereas I would be seeing a four and a half star movie. I would see maybe for general audiences, this is three and a half, four. For John, this would be two and a half, three. General audiences, I believe F1 is a four. Would you agree?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I was going to say that. Yeah. I would agree with you on that. If you're a car person, some of you are going to come out and say it's a five. Right. I don't think it's a five because I think Ford v. Ferrari is still a better movie at the end of the day. Even the racing sequences and what they do and so on. Now, what I will say is this.
SPEAKER 11 :
By the way, Ford v. Ferrari has a better storyline.
SPEAKER 03 :
It does.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the acting is just... At the tempo of the acting.
SPEAKER 03 :
The whole thing is just – and it's historical. There's more things to it and makes it more interesting with Carroll Shelby. Anyways, the one thing, though, about this movie that even is better than 4V Ferrari is – folks, I'm not exaggerating when I say this. If you want to see some of the best cinematography – whatever you want to call it. What am I looking for, Andy?
SPEAKER 11 :
I was –
SPEAKER 03 :
As far as how they did the driving, the way they filmed it. I mean, the movie-making experience and what they put on the screen is second to none.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I'm a movie critic. Trust me, I know CGI when I see it, and I wasn't seeing it.
SPEAKER 03 :
There isn't any.
SPEAKER 11 :
I was seeing nothing but cold, hard reality out there on the track. And I'm like, how did these guys do this for even five seconds without being utterly terrified?
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. And they show a lot of that. It's perfect. I loved it. And lastly, just because of the fact that FOM was so involved, again, they're not CGI-ing in crowds and things like that because these were all filmed right alongside the races that they were actually at, which, again, just gives the movie some reality to it that you're just not going to get any other way. It was a great movie. I enjoyed it thoroughly. And it's one of those movies where even if you're not a car person, will you get as much out of it as me? Probably not. Will you still enjoy it? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
And by the way, I'm not a car guy, but I think this is probably so far the best movie of the summer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I would agree with you on that. It's certainly tied for it if it isn't. I would agree. All right. We'll be back. Geno's Auto Service. Speaking of cars and all of that, in fact, Steve Horvath, the owner of Geno's, will be with me tomorrow. And just a little quick tidbit of Drive Radio tomorrow. We're going to have somebody on with us from Hands of the Carpenter. They take cars. It's a ministry. They take cars and use those for a single mom ministry. We'll explain tomorrow exactly how all of that works, and that's part of what Geno's does as well. Great company. Great organization. Steve, the owner, fantastic. If you want anything done to your car, give them a call today. Geno'sautoservice.com, and Geno starts with a J.
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Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 03 :
The only thing really quick, Andy, I was just talking about with F1 is there was more drama on the track than off the track. Yeah, how about that? Where you would think there would be a little bit more development on some things. Andy's talking about the villain and so on, and you could have done a little bit better job of all of that. And yeah. You could have, although then you end up with a Ferrari movie and not this movie, because they did a good job of really combining what was going on on the track as well as off.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, but here we get back again to I'm not a racing guy, and I liked Ford v. Ferrari better than this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because that is more of a... Touch the heartstrings of all people rather than race car people.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it was, and it was, again, it was not historically accurate, but it was about some things that had happened in history and what Ford's involvement was and what they did to beat Ferrari and all of that. So, again, it was its own movie, and it's one of, you know, what do you always say, Andy? There's not that many of those that come along.
SPEAKER 11 :
No. No. There haven't been many good blockbusters lately.
SPEAKER 03 :
You take that, Maverick, others. There's just not... No. Kind of a theme there, though. Yeah. This male excitement and what men can go do and how they can become great leaders and so on. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun, isn't it? It's fun. It's amazing how that works, folks on the left.
SPEAKER 11 :
How terror they make that. I mean, even a movie that's not even that good called Armageddon is still a load of fun. Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Got another full hour coming your way. In light of F1, we're going to do movies today that involve cars that are fast, fast cars. So we'll be back and do that in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you.
Renowned host John Rush takes listeners on a cinematic journey through some of history's best car-centered films. Partners in dialogue, Andy Pat shares the mic as they debate the merits of classic scenes and celebrated performances. Encompassing everything from the inspirational tale of 'Ford v. Ferrari' to the fast-paced narrative of 'Baby Driver', the episode captures the essence of adrenaline and the love for speed that these movies glorify. Moreover, tune in for a particularly engaging listener segment, where audience members share recommendations and favorites, contributing to an already diverse list. With humor and insight, John and Andy deftly navigate the intersection of cars and cinema, crowning the experience with expert opinions and irresistible car talk.
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SPEAKER 16 :
And we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. Richard will not be with us today. Normally he joins us for movie reviews, but he will not be with us today because of being out. So that means you guys have the ability, if you want to call in and add to our list, feel free to do so. Here's what I'm going to ask, though, because... I don't know about Andy, but I've got a pretty lengthy list, although there's some movies that I want to talk about. So here's what I'm going to do for today. We don't normally do this, but please, one movie. If you call in, don't rattle off six movies because my list will get eaten away very quickly if you all...
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't have that long of a list because I'm not a car guy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so you're the same way.
SPEAKER 06 :
In fact, I only have one movie. I'll just tell you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Anyway, so one movie each. If you call in with a movie, pick your favorite. That's fine. Fast cars, great, and we'll do it. But please, out of respect for everybody else listening and Andy and I especially, because, again, this is a smaller genre of movies that are out there, I should say. So one per, because if each of you call in and rattle off four or five movies each, I won't have enough. I'll run out. Me too. There won't be enough. So one per call, if you would, 303-477-5600. We're going to do this. Let me do question of the day. We'll come back. I have a nice long segment, Andy and I will. Yesterday, what is the only letter that does not appear in any U.S. state name? That is letter Q. Really? Letter Q is not in a state's name.
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Right, because X is in New Mexico.
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Yep.
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Okay, cool.
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And we're not Quebec.
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We're not Quebec.
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And probably won't be anytime soon after yesterday or today. Yeah. With Trump. I don't think so.
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I just want to, hey, quick message from Rush Reason to Quebec.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John and Shan, hang tight. We're going to roll a couple of movies in here. So, Andy, take it away.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I guess I got to go in with my favorite car movie right away, and that is Ford v. Ferrari, and this is from the trailer. Here we go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're going to build a car to beat Ferrari with a Ford.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 19 :
And how long did you tell them that you needed? Two, three hundred years? Ninety days. This isn't the first time Ford Motors has gone to war. We know how to do more than push paper. Go ahead, Carol. Go to war. Thank you, sir.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now, by the way, they're really quick. You know what made that movie better than F1? What? The fact that that was an American company that was going against the Italians to prove a point, which I think also is why that movie is better than F1. Just my own opinion and a true story. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, it was really cool. I'm going to say the reason it was better than there were a few reasons that it was better than F1. By the way, not a lot better. F1 was really good. But the main reason is Christian Bale's character. Christian Bale has done a lot of fine acting in his career, but to me, this was the equivalent of Doc Holliday from Tombstone, defining a great actor, where you have a great actor who's done a lot of great roles, but then does something that is just so unique, so cool, it blows your mind. And Christian Bale blew my mind in this movie. So there you go, Ford v. Ferrari.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. You're up. Another one where there's fast driving, not racing per se, but fast driving. Fabulous movie. And whoever the stunt driver is in this movie did a phenomenal job. Baby Driver.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, Baby Driver. You took another one of mine just like that. No, no, no, no, no. I got a clip here. Oh, wait a minute. I do.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. We'll wait. Here we go. We're good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Who's this man? Austin Powers. Doc said Michael Myers. This is Mike Myers. It should be the Halloween mask. This is a Halloween mask. No, the killer dude from Halloween. Oh, you mean Jason.
SPEAKER 14 :
No. Let's go. Wait, wait, wait. I got to start the song over.
SPEAKER 06 :
They're waiting to rob a place.
SPEAKER 16 :
I know. It's hilarious. That's a good movie, by the way. Okay, go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Go. They're waiting to rob a place. He tells them to get him the Mike Myers, Michael Myers mask. He gets Mike Myers.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's hilarious.
SPEAKER 06 :
It was hilarious. I loved it.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, great movie. All right, John and Cheyenne, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, I heard the rules, so I won't violate them. Oh, you're good. Now, I have one movie, but I also have a question after I say the movie, and it's Days of Thunder. Okay. I was listening to Andy's review when he was talking about how the driver couldn't explain what was wrong with the car. And that kind of reminds me of with Tom Cruise and Robert Duvall, where he's trying to explain how the car works to him.
SPEAKER 16 :
Did you see that, John? Yeah, no, that's a great scene because that's another one where Duvall is asking him for input on the car itself. Is it loose? Is it tight? Understeer? Oversteer? And Cruise is like, I don't know. And so Duvall is teaching him what all of these things are and how to then relay that back to him so he can make the car work properly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I just thought that was a great movie because the chemistry between Cruise and Duvall really made that movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, just so you know, to me, that was like a moment from every corporation. You will have people in accounting trying to tell people in operations, OK, here's what I'm trying. Here's what I'm looking for. Here's the information I'm looking for. And then you'll have people in operations who need something totally different people. And it's just different in every department trying to explain it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now, really quick, one thing that I will say that I think F1 and Days of Thunder was a great movie, by the way. That's a that's a. four and a half star movie. I don't know if it's five, because I'll tell you why in a moment. My biggest complaint with Days of Thunder, and I'm not a huge Nicole Kidman fan, and I know they were married at one time, but in my opinion, far too much romance in Days of Thunder, which takes away from some of what the movie actually is. F1 did it just right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, as I called it in the review, it Pearl Harbors the movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
You have the romance take up too much oxygen.
SPEAKER 16 :
The Nicole Kidman thing in Days of Thunder screws the movie up, if you ask me.
SPEAKER 09 :
What do you think, John? I don't think it was as bad as Pearl Harbor because I don't think there's any movie that's as bad as Pearl Harbor.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
But, yeah, I see what you're saying. I would have liked to see more of Michael Rooker and Carrie Ewells in the car racing than Nicole Kidman. Agreed. Days of Thunder is definitely a four movie. I love the line, and you should put this on your drive radio. You know what wins a race? Tires win a race. Yeah, that's a good one. Try to get them to not burn up as tires. But you guys have a great weekend.
SPEAKER 16 :
And really quick, as a teaser, John, in F1, there's some pretty good let's do this with tires in that particular movie, which I think some of you, to John's point a moment ago, you'll enjoy as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
I really enjoyed the tire talk. Very true. And you would think, talking about tires, there's no way that's, yeah, it is. It's fun.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's very, yeah, it's very true. So, all right, you're up.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, I got to say about Nicole Kidman, we must say, though, she is a lovely lady for a 14-foot tall lady.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. She is tall. No, she's a lovely lady, period.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, she is.
SPEAKER 16 :
I just didn't, that particular movie, again, like you said, they just, they could have cut that portion of that back in that movie and made it a lot better, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 06 :
Agreed. Agreed. Yes. Okay, now we've got to get to another great, great racing movie, and that's Talladega Nights. Oh, yeah. And this is a moment where he believes that he cannot walk, and he's in a hospital. Here we go.
SPEAKER 15 :
You are not paralyzed. I am so paralyzed.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, no, no.
SPEAKER 15 :
Rough on him now.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, he needs to know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. He's always crying. Tough love it is. Tough love. Wake up, idiot. You want to know what I am? You want to see what my life is? Don't do it. You want to see what's going on here? Don't you stick that knife in your leg.
SPEAKER 16 :
Listen.
SPEAKER 14 :
Walk it off. Walk it off. Walk it off. Walk it off. He's got a knife in his leg.
SPEAKER 16 :
That movie's so dumb, but so funny at the same time.
SPEAKER 06 :
That movie, and it drags between the gags. Don't get me wrong. It does. But when you get to the funny parts, oh my gosh, they're fall-down funny.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's so many one-liners in that movie that it makes the movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's all that movie is. You're waiting for the next one-liner. Yes, you are.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, it's a stupid movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
But it is absolutely hilarious at the same time. Okay, you're up. I'm going to try to find some older movies that most people don't think about as maybe having speed and things like that in them. Dukes of Hazzard.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's not that old.
SPEAKER 16 :
The TV show is old. Whether it's the TV show or whether it's the movie itself, they're always racing around, generally. That's true. That's true.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I'm going to go to a fun fast car scene, and that is from GoldenEye.
SPEAKER 16 :
Ooh, good job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, remember that? It's on my list. No, it's on my list. When he's being tested for his psyche. Here we go.
SPEAKER 19 :
I enjoy a spirited ride as much as the next girl, baby. Who's that?
SPEAKER 18 :
The next call.
SPEAKER 20 :
James, stop this. Stop it. I know what you're doing.
SPEAKER 18 :
Really? What's that, dear?
SPEAKER 19 :
You are just trying to show off the size of your... Engine? Ego.
SPEAKER 18 :
We are having a pleasant drive in the country and you've got to bring psychology into it. Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I was just sent here to evaluate you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Let's try and put that behind us, shall we?
SPEAKER 14 :
James, I want you to stop this car.
SPEAKER 23 :
Really?
SPEAKER 14 :
Stop this car at once!
SPEAKER 18 :
As you can see, I have no problem with female authority.
SPEAKER 06 :
I thought it was a great scene where he's racing the bad lady.
SPEAKER 16 :
It was on my list. That was a lot of fun, wasn't it? No, yeah. Like I say, that was a great movie. That one... I won't steal some of the others because there's a lot of great car scenes.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you can't just say all the James Bond movies because they're different. Each one has a totally different car chase scene. They're so fun. Okay, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Totally agree with you on that one. This one, because it is a movie I actually like, even though it's a little corny at times, because I'm not any of the triple X or any of those type guy fans, movie fans at all. I'm not a fan of those. Gone in 60 Seconds, though. Good movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gone in 60 Seconds is very impressive.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's another one with Duvall.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, you're right. I always think about Nicolas Cage, but you're right. Duvall's in it. I love Duvall.
SPEAKER 16 :
He's always good in those car movies, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
How come he so rarely played the main character?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, he's so good.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a great question.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because he's just so great. Okay. We got to go to the Fast and the Furious. Here we go. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nice car.
SPEAKER 04 :
What's the retail on one of those? More than you can afford, pal. Ferrari. Smoke.
SPEAKER 06 :
Smoke him. Smoke him. Now, the way Vin Diesel, it's only two words, but the way he delivers that line, John, I felt like more of a man. I became more of a man just by watching Vin's acting in that movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't think I'd let him drive me around the block.
SPEAKER 06 :
When he said, smoke him. I mean, he's so manly. You know, I just think, you know, it's not just the quality of the acting itself. It's the manhood that he conveys. I think he makes all of us better. What do you think?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't think he knows a wheel from a lug nut. Just saying.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think your wife loves you more knowing that you have seen Vin Diesel movies. What do you think?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't think so, no.
SPEAKER 06 :
You don't think so?
SPEAKER 16 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
I will not watch those. They're not on my list.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, now, you're a car guy who hates Fast and Furious movies. For those who have not heard you say this before, it's actually very interesting. I want you to explain why. why you don't like the Fast and Furious movies.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because nothing in that movie is remotely true at all on any level, period. Not in what they do to build the car, not the cars themselves, not what they do with the cars. It's so Hollywood-ish that it's not real. And for a car guy, it's just like, that just makes my brain hurt. I can't watch it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, let me ask you this, because I know some of the stunts are way too crazy and unrealistic. I got that. Anybody would get that watching them. But... What about, because you're saying not the way they build it or the speed that they get out of a stance, everything they do.
SPEAKER 16 :
Are you saying that's all fake? Yes. Yes. All of it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's all Hollywood.
SPEAKER 06 :
Really?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. Now, some of the crash scenes where they're doing things with the cars and jumping and so on, some of those are going to be real. You can look at the cars and see what's all skid-plated up underneath for the stunt guy and all of that.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, some of the jump scenes and stuff are going to be real. But in general, what they're doing, what they talk about, how they talk about the car, what they're going to do to build the car, it's just utter nonsense. Total nonsense.
SPEAKER 06 :
But Vin Diesel.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, it's got Vin Diesel, John. It's dumb. It's dumb. None of it. Again, it makes my head hurt watching that. I just can't watch it.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, the thing I love the most about Vin Diesel is he's different in every movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's a totally different character. It's like that was Vin Diesel. I couldn't believe it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Like when he does Groot.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. It'd be like you watching a writer's movie, as you explained earlier. Yes. Be like you watching a writer's movie when you know every single thing they're talking about, how things are actually done is wrong. True. It would make your head hurt.
SPEAKER 06 :
It would. It would really upset me. You'd be like, just turn it off. You know, they're dangling participles. What are you doing? Turn it off. Stop it.
SPEAKER 16 :
So anytime they're on, I just skip. I don't know that I've ever seen one of those, other than the Hobbs and Shaw with What's-His-Face, because I like Dwayne Johnson.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, come on, the acting and the stunts in that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Were terrible.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was unbelievably bad.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm not a car guy, and I came out of that with my head hurt. I just like Dwayne Johnson. Other than that, yeah, it was not a great movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I like The Rock, but come on.
SPEAKER 16 :
I just like him. Okay, go ahead. Anyways. All right, you're up. Let's see. Logan Luckey. Oh! Which is another kind of like hidden movie back in the day that didn't get great reviews, but it was a great movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
How dare you? Now, it's funny that that movie is about a heist because you stole it from me. Okay? I was going to use that one pretty soon. It's a good movie. Logan Lucky, I thought was a surprisingly good movie. I highly recommended it, and I don't think anybody listened. I don't think anybody's seen it.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I don't know why, Andy, because it's a great movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Folks, I'm going to tell you something. It's a little slow, but let me tell you something.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, but it's so funny.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's funny.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's interesting. Daniel Craig does a character unlike anything he's ever done before.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you wouldn't notice him. Oh, you wouldn't recognize him.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it is also a brilliant heist.
SPEAKER 16 :
Uh-huh. This is a really cool movie. It's great. Really cool. I can't believe it didn't get more accolades, Andy. It's a solid four-star movie all day long.
SPEAKER 06 :
I loved it. Yeah, I loved it, and I would watch it over and over.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, if it's on, it's one of those movies, folks, where if it's on, you just watch it. So anyways, you're up.
SPEAKER 06 :
Speaking of movies I would watch over and over, The Italian Job.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
And here we're not talking about super fast cars, but it's not how fast the car is, it's who's driving it that really makes it. But here's just a little bit from the trailer.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're not in it for the pay. Hey, Steve. Gang's all here. You have no idea how hard it is for me not to reach across this table and kill you. You want to start the game up again, that's fine with me. They're in it for the payback. Come on! You'll try to take out my guards. I have five of them that you don't know about.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't do dogs. I had a real bad experience. What happened?
SPEAKER 12 :
I had a bad experience. We tried to hack the system. You ready to create the biggest traffic jam in the history of Los Angeles? I'm so ready.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oops.
SPEAKER 12 :
You gonna try to crack my safe? You took my father from me. I'm taking this. You just blew the best thing you had going for you. You just blew the element of surprise. Surprised? Why do you get to punch him a night down?
SPEAKER 06 :
The Italian Job had one of the best casts and was one of the tightest movies. That might be a five star.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a good movie. That's another one of those where if it's on, you just watch it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's really no slowdowns.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is there a bad scene?
SPEAKER 16 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
I... Is there anything you'd take out of it? That movie had the thing that so many movies today are missing, which is editing. You know when you watch a movie and it's tight, it's just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The storyline is moving along, whether it's action or not, right? That's called editing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and that movie was terrific.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, you're up. Only because this saved a car, literally. If it hadn't been for this movie, the Pontiac Trans Am, I believe, would have died. Smokey and the Bandit made it famous.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it did.
SPEAKER 16 :
And Pontiac should have done a lot more for Burt Reynolds than what they actually did.
SPEAKER 06 :
Jackie Gleason.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Come on now. He was hilarious in that movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
For a low-budget film. I think what they spent on that thing, like a million bucks or something was all. It wasn't a lot of money.
SPEAKER 06 :
That movie, obviously, Burt Reynolds is Burt Reynolds, and I just love the guy, right? But Jackie Gleason, it was almost like they didn't write for him. They said, create a character of your own and just go out there and be him. Oh, my gosh, was he good. Was he Buford T. Justice? Yes. Okay. Oh, my gosh, he was incredible.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sorry, it was $5.3 million, but still. Oh, no, it was originally $5.3. I was right. They trimmed it all the way back to a million bucks. They had to do that movie on a million bucks. Oh, no. It trimmed it so far back.
SPEAKER 06 :
And yet, I mean, it was very funny.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it literally, because of the movie, revived a car that was really struggling to have any kind of sales whatsoever. And that movie made the car, literally. And everybody wanted one. Everybody wanted one. So we'll take a break. We'll come right back. Golden Eagle Financial is up next. Al did a great interview here of late. Listen in. We'll be right back after Al is done. Golden Eagle Financial.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is TJ with KLZ Radio, and I've got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial here in the studio with me. Al and I were just talking about how in retirement he helps his clients to stretch the time in their retirement. Al, what do you mean by that? Tell us a little bit more about how time works in retirement.
SPEAKER 25 :
Well, when you think about leaving the working world, you think about, well, it's still going to take money to live on once I'm retired. And that nest egg, whatever that is, that's going to permit you to do what you want to do with the time that you have sort of earned for yourself. So the nest egg is not only in dollars, but it's also in the time that you have to do the things that you believe will be fulfilling in retirement. And when I have a conversation with people, I think it's equally important to think about how they're going to be spending their time as it is to accumulate a nest egg.
SPEAKER 03 :
You've got to have some pretty good examples of things that people do in retirement. So open the door for us. What sort of things can we expect?
SPEAKER 25 :
Well, sure. I have one gentleman who is very much into aviation. He owns his own small plane. He actually works on that small plane. He's within a few years of retirement. He's retirement age. But right now, while he's working, he takes his small aircraft, flies to locations where he investigates air disasters. I also have some people who spend a lot of time with their grandkids, some of whom live nearby and some are a little farther away. I have some who are incredibly involved with their churches and go on missionary trips and so forth.
SPEAKER 03 :
How do people get in touch with you if they want to stretch that time out in their retirement?
SPEAKER 25 :
They can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if they're driving when they hear this, you can contact KLZ and they'll put them in touch with me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course, as always, you can find Golden Eagle Financial on klzradio.com slash advertisers and get right in touch with Al if you're driving and can't write that number down. Al, thank you so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 25 :
You're welcome.
SPEAKER 16 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. All right, we are doing Movie Rental Hour Fast Cars. I made a mistake, too. I read it wrong. Reynolds' salary for Smokey and the Bandit was a million. They originally had a $5.3 million budget. They trimmed it down two days before shooting began. They were paying Burt Reynolds a million bucks, meaning because they cut a million dollars out of it, they ended up having only $3.3 million total after Reynolds' salary to actually make the movie. Which is nothing. Even then, that was nothing. They grossed at the box office 127. Hilarious. And I got to say this because I didn't know this before Andy and I were reading this. So the Buford T. Justice, that was the name of a real Florida highway patrolman known to Reynolds' father. So Burt Reynolds' dad actually knew somebody called Buford T. Justice. Very cool. So there you go. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Now this next thing is I'm going to play a song. And the reason is... This is from the cartoon Cars. And I liked how it introduced country music to kids. Because kids never listen to this stuff. And here you heard some of it with the kids. And this is in the very first race scene just showing Lightning McQueen.
SPEAKER 14 :
We've been driving this road for a mile and a half.
SPEAKER 17 :
And now this neighborhood's changed. It's all been rearranged. We'll let that change.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's Sheryl Crow. What? It's Sheryl Crow, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think so, yeah. But that's a very country-style music that they had throughout this movie, and kids ate it up.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 06 :
Couldn't believe it. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, I'm going to get a couple in from folks that have been texting in. This one, Bullet, is a great movie, so got to put that one in there, absolutely. So thank you, by the way. Yes, absolutely. That one counts.
SPEAKER 06 :
Fantastic.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
And?
SPEAKER 16 :
You said you had a couple? Yeah, the other one was, hang on, I'm looking on my list. Vanishing Point was the other one. Oh, yeah, classic. So thank you, guys, by the way. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, do you have one, or are you going to go with those?
SPEAKER 16 :
Just go ahead. We'll keep going.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, this is a quick clip.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's 106 miles to Chicago. We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes. It's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hit it.
SPEAKER 06 :
The Blues Brothers.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, that's on my list too.
SPEAKER 06 :
When they drove through the mall. Oh my gosh, what a scene. It was great.
SPEAKER 16 :
You don't think of that as a fast car movie, but it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it is. In a way, it is.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is, very much so.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Let's see here.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a lot of car chases.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm trying to go with maybe some older movies for all of you listening that will enjoy this. How about... Well, actually, and you don't think about this one, but there's a lot of fast cars in Taken. A lot of race scenes or, you know, chase scenes in Taken. Yeah, there are. A ton.
SPEAKER 06 :
It was really good, too. I liked when it was in the yard where they're going around in the mud and going over. And then what was it that goes through the guy's window and kills him? I don't know, but it was so cool. Folks, if you've not seen Taken.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, great movie, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if you've not seen it in the last couple years, rent it. Yeah, good movie. Have some fun again. Oh, yeah, good movie. Absolutely. Remind yourself why you enjoyed it. Okay, this is really quick here. This is from The Bourne Identity. And it's, once again, not how fast the car is. It's how good the guy who is who's driving it. And at this point, they're about to go down some stairs. Here we go.
SPEAKER 12 :
so what uh we got a bump coming up
SPEAKER 06 :
And it all felt so real how they did that. It was just so incredible watching her face as he went down all these stairs in this little car. It was hilarious.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're up. Jason Statham, and this is actually another one of those movies that you don't think much of, Death Race.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Jason Statham. I like him.
SPEAKER 16 :
I do, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, there's another guy, Man's Man, right? Yeah. I mean, he just comes off as Man's Man. Yeah. Okay, man, I know you hate this, but I've already done some Vin Diesel. I've got to do a little John Travolta singing in Grease, Grease Lightning. That one's good. That one's nice.
SPEAKER 14 :
You are supreme. The chicks are cream. This lad won.
SPEAKER 06 :
That movie had incredible music.
SPEAKER 16 :
It was disgusting a lot of the time, but it was incredible music. Not to backtrack to F1, but it did as well. It had some of the best soundtrack in the movie of anything I've seen for quite some time. I forgot to mention that during hour one.
SPEAKER 06 :
I forget the guy's name, Hans Zimmer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hans Zimmer did the music. And it's great. It fits everywhere perfectly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Did a great job on that. So that's another one where they did a good job. So Dan and Blackhawk, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you want a 70s or an 80s?
SPEAKER 16 :
Doesn't matter. Your call.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you guys may have already mentioned it. I'll go 70s. Smokey and the Bandit.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just did it.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now you get to do two. Now you can do another one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you guys may have already done this one, too. And I haven't, I just got on, so Cannonball Run.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nope, that was on my list next, but that's fine. It works. That's a funny movie, by the way. Yeah, it's fun.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just silly.
SPEAKER 10 :
The woman that was, she was unbuttoning her shirt, you know, because she was getting away with speeding, you know, and that lady cop pulls up or walks up to her.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's funny. That's a good movie. I haven't seen it for years. That's one I need to watch. It's really funny.
SPEAKER 10 :
Didn't it have John Candy in it, I thought? Or am I thinking wrong?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think that was before his time, I want to say.
SPEAKER 10 :
But don't quote me on that. Yeah, I thought John Candy was in it. It was a young John Candy. Well, you may be right.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know what? I'm looking really quick. He was in so much. The cast was Burt Reynolds, Dom DeLuise, Jackie Chan, Roger Moore, Sammy Davis Jr., Dean Martin, Farrah Fawcett, Jack Ellum.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't see a young... I think it was Jack Ellum who I'm thinking about. Oh, okay. Close enough. Yeah. Close enough. I think it was a spoof on Smokey and the Bandit, wasn't it?
SPEAKER 16 :
If it wasn't, it felt like it. Don Knotts was in it as well. You know, Terry Bradshaw was in that movie. Jeez. Peter Fonda. Mel Tillis. I can go down the list. Shirley MacLaine. I mean, there's a ton of people in this thing. It's hilarious. Frank Sinatra. Tim Conway. Telly Savalas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Telly Savalas.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's a ton in that show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Everybody had a cameo. I think so. It was nothing but a million cameos.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty much what it was, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's hilarious.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm going to have to watch it.
SPEAKER 16 :
I am too, now that we've just said that. I've got to watch it now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's hilarious. Dan, thank you, by the way. That's why we do this. That's why we do this. I'll throw one in here really quick after Dan. Let's see. Another one that probably isn't from a listener yet, but it will be Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry. They always mention that one, so old movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Okay. This is from the beginning of Star Trek when a young James Kirk steals the car from the boyfriend of his mom.
SPEAKER 16 :
They drive in Star Trek? They did that one time.
SPEAKER 06 :
He did. Yeah. Here we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, are you out of your mind? That car's an antique. You think you can get away with this just because your mother's off planet? You get your back home now. You live in my house, buddy. You live in my house and that's my car. You get one scratch on that car and I'm going to whip your ass.
SPEAKER 14 :
Is there a problem, officer?
SPEAKER 24 :
Citizen, what is your name?
SPEAKER 14 :
My name is James Tiberius Kirk.
SPEAKER 16 :
James Tiberius Kirk.
SPEAKER 06 :
He runs the guy's car off a cliff.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's funny.
SPEAKER 06 :
And what a scene, by the way, where he rolls out of the car and barely survives while he runs the car off a cliff. It was so well directed. I couldn't believe it. Okay, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Another great F1 movie, by the way, which is not as good as the one that just came out, but pretty good movie is Rush.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Who was in Rush?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, Thor. What's Thor's name?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris Hemsworth. He's the driver. Right. Yeah. Okay. Well done. Well done. Okay. Let's go to... I've got to say it. I've got clips, but I won't do it. Mad Max, Fury Road. I know you hate the movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
They do race in that. There is Fast Cars in it. I'll give you that.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it's very... By the way, there's no CGI, baby. No.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is all stunts. I'll give you that. And it's intense.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, another movie with fast cars, but you don't think of it this way, and it was one of my favorite movies when I was younger, Against All Odds.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought about that one.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's actually a racing-type movie. I mean, kind of. I mean, it's more of a romance, I guess, but there's a lot of racing and stuff in it as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, and really quick here. This is one, and we'll go to Joe. Go ahead. Just when you have to race two Asian guys where one of them talks like Howard Cosell, better off dead.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. You know what? I said that last week. I haven't seen that yet.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is one of the dumbest comedies, but it's very funny.
SPEAKER 16 :
I need to watch it. All right, Joe, you're up. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, since you mentioned Jason Stratham, did anybody talk about the opening scene to Transport, the first Transporter movie? No, it's on my list, but I haven't got there yet.
SPEAKER 16 :
I was about to bring it up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's on your list. And how about does the name Samuel L. Jackson and Ryan Reynolds ring a bell in my bodyguard?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Yes. And Ryan Reynolds always chose the crappy cars.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, guys. That's all I got.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, Joe. Appreciate you very much. Let me throw one in. Oh, we're good on breaks. We're fine. So we can just keep going. Uh, because it's just a weird movie, but fast and just goofy Christine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
The car with a, you know, came to life, whatever the personality, weird, you know, thriller.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, no. I got to go back to a very old movie that stars Dennis Weaver. Oh. And it was, oh, so you know this one. Oh, I do. Did you see this?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. Many times. Duel. Mm-hmm. It was my dad's favorite movie when I was a kid.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I did not know this. Duel was a surprisingly good movie that people probably should rent.
SPEAKER 16 :
Very intense. That was literally one of my... Anytime that movie was on, because back then we didn't have the ability to... And who directed it? I don't remember. Spielberg. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's his first movie. Yeah, that's what put him on the map, and boy, once he was on the map, he was on the map to stay.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, that movie was popular with my dad. And talk about a low budget. You didn't have VCRs and any, I mean, if it was on, it was on, and you watched it because you didn't have any other option at that point. There was no other way to go back and see it, so you just sat and watched.
SPEAKER 06 :
It was good.
SPEAKER 16 :
We all kind of, you know, young people have no idea how that works, Andy. You had to be home at a certain time to watch X, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
But what Spielberg did in that movie, because here was a guy you didn't know anything about Spielberg, and he comes out and immediately the timing, the close-ups of the face, the desperation. Agree. You know what I mean? Agree. Because he's got this truck that's hunting him out in the desert. That's right. And he's trying to survive it. It's incredible. And he has no idea why this guy is doing this.
SPEAKER 16 :
Not a lot of other actors in that movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
No. It's very, very simple. And Dennis Weaver puts in an incredible performance. What a movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
It was a great movie. Absolutely. Okay. Another one from a listener, LeMond.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, that's Steve McQueen, wasn't it?
SPEAKER 16 :
Paul Newman and all them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Steve McQueen was so... Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
And he had a lot of great movies, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
And didn't he drive in real life?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, he did. He did, actually.
SPEAKER 06 :
And didn't Newman as well?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, he did. He owned a race team for a long time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, that I didn't know.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. So here's a question, going back to Brad Pitt from the first hour. Is Brad Pitt more of Newman, or is he more Steve McQueen, who just didn't do it as long?
SPEAKER 06 :
Brad Pitt reminds me more of Newman. The way he just aged into it. But once again, he did it longer. I guess that's why I'm saying that, because a young Brad Pitt reminds me more of Steve McQueen.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. And Steve McQueen, again, died at 50.
SPEAKER 06 :
Steve McQueen was Brad Pitt in his time, wasn't he?
SPEAKER 16 :
In his time, he very much was.
SPEAKER 06 :
Geez, I never really thought about that. Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, do we have time for another? Yeah, go ahead. No, yeah, we're going to run all the way until we go to our last break.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, okay, okay. I've got to go with just a great car chase, the French Connection.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, I didn't have that on my list. Oh, John. Yeah, good one.
SPEAKER 06 :
At the time, it set the standard. It totally reset the standard. for car chases i mean i'll take that absolutely go ahead uh oh you did mad max i gotta cross that off hold on drive angry you had mad max fury road on your yeah because i knew you'd say it okay drive angry all right here's a movie from a couple years ago that i gave a surprising four star review to i gave it one of the top probably seven or eight movies of the year gran turismo
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah, it's on my list. Yeah, I knew you'd say that one, too, so I put that on there.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was a fun movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
I did not see that movie. I need to see it.
SPEAKER 06 :
It did pretty well.
SPEAKER 16 :
I didn't. Yeah, I need to. I didn't see it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Repo Man.
SPEAKER 06 :
Repo Man, yes. That was wrong. Now, here's one you wouldn't think about. Cobb. And the movie's about Ty Cobb, and the reason I say it is there's a scene where the guy who's interviewing him is driving with Ty Cobb, who's played by Tommy Lee Jones, and it's an elderly Ty Cobb, driving in the snow in Mountain Roads. And it was terrifying. The way he was driving, and he was scaring the interviewer to death.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
So there you go, cop.
SPEAKER 16 :
Another movie that you don't think much about with Tom Cruise because he's a bad guy, but he's a good bad guy if there is such a thing, Collateral.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I hadn't even thought about that. Yeah, he's a good, you know, he's a hitman, but he's kind of a good hitman, if you would.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, here's a clip from the trailer of a movie that had a great early scene car chase scene, Casino Royale. Yeah. Here we go.
SPEAKER 18 :
I will be keeping my eye on our government's money and off your perfectly formed house.
SPEAKER 21 :
You noticed. I hope our little game isn't causing you to perspire.
SPEAKER 18 :
It doesn't bother you, killing those people?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, I wouldn't be very good at my job if it did. How's our girl? Melted your cold heart yet? James, get the girl out.
SPEAKER 18 :
You're not going to let me in there. You've got your armor back on.
SPEAKER 06 :
I have no armor left. That was a good movie. And that, you know, when he came along, he kind of reset the whole style of James Bond. I loved it.
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go. Somebody said Ronan. I don't know Ronan. Oh, yeah. What is that? I don't know that movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's got, what's his name? He's gone wacko from Meet the Parents.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, De Niro?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Never seen it. Somebody else mentioned, and it's on my list as well. We'll throw it out there anyways. Back to the Future, of course.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 88 miles an hour.
SPEAKER 16 :
88 miles an hour.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, here we go. Furiosa, a Mad Max saga. And Anya Taylor-Joy was tremendous in that movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
So there you go. Somebody also texted, and I did Rush already, but Grand Prix and I did Le Mans already, but Grand Prix is one we'll add into that as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, really quick here. You did Dukes of Hazzard, right? Yes, I did. Okay, I'm going to do Starsky and Hutch.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, that's a good one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, absolutely. Which was a very dumb movie. Oh, but funny. Comedy, but there you go.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, no, that one counts. Okay, go ahead. Absolutely, Andy. Somebody has said, I don't think, did we mention the Bourne movies? Did you say that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I mentioned one Bourne movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, I had a list that said you could pretty much go any Bourne movie with Speed and all of that. The other one would be Mission Impossible, which fits along the same lines.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah. You know, a lot of the Mission Impossible ones, he's on a motorcycle.
SPEAKER 16 :
But then they're chasing him with cars usually. Oh, yeah. Which doesn't usually end very well.
SPEAKER 06 :
What's your favorite one? I like Rogue Nation a lot. That's a really good one. I need to see the last one.
SPEAKER 16 :
I haven't seen the last one yet, but really, I like them all. There's one I don't really like.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, he's so good. Okay, how about Stroker Ace?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that was on my list. That's an old one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's with Bird, isn't it?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Okay, go. How about The Great Race? It's a funny movie, by the way. Yeah, it is a funny move.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I'm going to go right back to 007 and Quantum of Solace.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, that's a good one, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, I'm sorry. I said that Casino Royale starts with car chase. It did not. I meant Quantum of Solace begins with a terrific car chase. So raw. It's great.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. The Machinist.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I did not think about that one. Thunder Road. Oh.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, and I've got, there's actually a movie, and I have not seen the whole thing, but I'm going to still mention it anyway. It's called NASCAR, and it's all a movie about NASCAR.
SPEAKER 06 :
Really? I have not seen it. Yep. Okay, here's one that, honestly, I didn't like much, but a lot of people did. It was The Art of Racing in the Rain.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I've not seen that. What didn't you like about it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Eh, very touchy-feely. Very, you know... Because it's the dog, right? Yeah, and, you know... Costner and... Live another life and... Reincarnated and all that, right? Reincarnation and all that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's kind of weird. I'm with you on that then.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Okay, my... I'm a guy. That's why I didn't like it.
SPEAKER 16 :
My next one is Driven.
SPEAKER 06 :
Driven. Okay, then I'm going to go with Ryan Gosling and Drive.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, that's right above that one. Good one. Yeah. Death Proof.
SPEAKER 06 :
Death Proof. Oh, yeah, was that Kurt Russell?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay, got it, got it, got it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Old.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, let's get old again. The Gumball Rally.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, it's on my list. I was going to say that next. Yes, yes. You stole it from me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Road Warrior. Road Warrior.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, how about The Man with the Golden Gun? Another 007, and that had a really good one.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a good one, too. Okay, one that we haven't mentioned yet. You could probably pick which one, but Batman always had a fast car. Dark Knight. Oh, yeah! Gotta go with Batman! Batmobile's always fast. I love that. Rocket-powered.
SPEAKER 06 :
I love the Batmobile. It's so cool. There you go. What was the coolest Batmobile?
SPEAKER 16 :
Geez.
SPEAKER 06 :
They were all so cool.
SPEAKER 16 :
I like the bike better than the car. The motorcycle's the coolest.
SPEAKER 06 :
Where it breaks off as a bike?
SPEAKER 16 :
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was really cool.
SPEAKER 16 :
The motorcycle's the coolest of the whole thing, just saying.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and that was in the second one. That was with the Joker, right? Oh, that was so cool.
SPEAKER 16 :
That was one of the best ones, period.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I think it was the best one just because of the performance of the Joker was incredible. Okay, I'm going to go another James Bond. No Time to Die had a terrific car race.
SPEAKER 16 :
We haven't said this yet, and I'm surprised nobody has texted it yet. American Graffiti.
SPEAKER 06 :
oh that's on my list i'm surprised no one has said it okay uh now did you bring up uh james garner and grand prix oh yes somebody i just mentioned that yes okay i thought i thought you mentioned really you mentioned grand prix because i thought you mentioned something else no that was from a listener okay well what about uh the love bug oh yeah it's on my list that's a racing movie there you go uh okay and it's not a great movie but i'm gonna say it anyways ferrari Yeah, it was a slow movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I only got through halfway of it and I had to stop it. Gotta give it honorable mention.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm sorry, but I love the title of this movie once again because it was during the time when Lindsay Lohan was a falling down drunk. Herbie fully loaded. That's so funny.
SPEAKER 16 :
Herbie fully loaded.
SPEAKER 06 :
And by the way, I think it's terrible. I think it's fantastic how she's turned her life around and come out of that. But that was a rough time, and she liked the bottle at that time. I think it's so wonderful that she's turned her life around. So there you go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, this one isn't really necessarily racing, but they have to keep a certain speed or there's a problem.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ah, yes, speed. Speed. I didn't mention that one just because, what was it, 50?
SPEAKER 1 :
55.
SPEAKER 16 :
55. If it went below 55, it blew up. The bus blows up. Dennis Hopper is so great in that movie. Oh, gosh. I mean, they were all good, but so was he.
SPEAKER 06 :
Everybody was good, but he dominated. He did. He is one of the top 10, I would say, villains of all time, wouldn't you say?
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, about a minute left here. Somebody actually said a scene that I did not know, but Andy, explain.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, the caller said that it was Mel Gibson taking down a helicopter with a car. I believe you actually mean Bruce Willis in Die Hard 4. There you go. Die Hard with Live Free or Die Hard.
SPEAKER 16 :
Live Free, Die Hard. Grease Lightning is another one that a listener mentioned. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay. How about The Driver with Ryan O'Neill?
SPEAKER 16 :
Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Need for Speed. Oh, yeah. How about Grand Theft Auto?
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, Jeff Bridges starred in The Last American Hero.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, good one. Tulane Blacktop. It's an old movie, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, that's all I got.
SPEAKER 16 :
You keep going. Two for the road. Speed Racer. Holy Motors. Last American Hero. I just said that. Okay, sorry. The Hitchhiker. I should have crossed it off. The Hitchhiker. Turbo. Turbo. Getaway, Born to Race, we did say The Love Bug already.
SPEAKER 06 :
We did.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wheelman, and how about Faster as our last one? So there you go. Guys, thank you. By the way, it's been a lot of fun today. Myself, Andy Pate, signing off. Have a great evening. Don't forget, first thing in the morning, 9 o'clock, it's Fix It Radio, followed up by Drive Radio. Have a great evening and a great weekend. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm Rick Hughes, your host, and thank you for tuning in today. I appreciate the opportunity to bring this information. Remember, God gave you two ends, one you can think with, one you can sit with. Our objective is to give you enough information so that you can use the right end because bad decisions limit future options. Success in life depends on which one of those ends you use. Heads, you'll win it, and tails, more than often, you're going to lose it. And so the Bible is very clear, tells us in 2 Peter 3, 18, we're to grow in grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And that's what this show's about, looking for those of you that are hungry to grow. I'm sort of a talent scout. I'm looking for positive volition. I'm looking for people that want to grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I hope you're that person. I hope you've been listening because of that, and I hope you've been able to find a well-qualified pastor that can feed you and teach you God's Word in your local area. Many of you have written to me and asked me where you can find such a person, and I've referred you to people that I know that offer information free of charge. And many of you have had your life completely turned around by getting into the Word and starting to grow spiritually. I can name names in various cities across the country in the 30 different cities that we broadcast in, but I won't name any names, but it's been wonderful to see the response in the lives of a lot of people that are really growing spiritually because of the efforts of the Holy Spirit through this show to encourage them in spiritual growth. Today, we want to keep talking about God's Word, and I want to bring up a subject to you I think you may enjoy. And I have a car dealer friend that I used to know, and his commercial, he'd go through all this stuff on his car dealership about what he wanted to sell, what he wanted to sell, and how cheap it was, how many months he could finance it. And then he would close out by saying, would I lie to you? And of course, everybody said, certainly he'd lie to me. Well, I want you to know that God never lies. God always keeps his word. And I want to demonstrate that to you today. But as we go into the scripture and we study the word of God, you know, as we learn the formation of the flatline in your soul, Remember, this show is built on you developing a forward line of troops, a flat line, based on 10 unique problem-solving devices, beginning with the rebound technique, which is how we solve the problem of sin, 1 John 1.9. And then we talk about the second problem-solving device is the filling of the Holy Spirit. which is how we solve the problem of our genetically formed sin nature controlling our life. Ephesians 5.18 tells us to be filled with the Spirit. And then we move into the third problem-solving device, which is using the faith-rest drill, standing on the promises of God. And the fourth problem-solving device is grace orientation. From there to number five, to doctrinal orientation. To number six, personal sense of destiny. To number seven, having a personal love for God, the greatest virtue you could have. And then impersonal love for others, number eight. Number nine is sharing the happiness of God. And number 10 is occupation with Christ. These 10 unique problem solving devices we have been studying for a while. And we have to come to realize one very important principle in regards to this. Here's the principle, please write it down and please remember this, fear, Fear will neutralize those 10 problem-solving devices. Fear will make them ineffective in your life if you let fear control you. So since you have believed in the Lord Jesus Christ and you started to advance in your spiritual life, The enemy, aka the devil, has a new objective now, and that is to distract you from ever advancing to spiritual maturity. His first objective was to keep you from becoming a Christian, to stop you from being saved, to stop you from hearing the gospel. He didn't want you to hear that, but you heard it, and you believed it, and you received Christ as your savior. Now, his second objective is to distract you, defeat you spiritually. by stopping you from advancing to spiritual maturity in your life. There is such a thing as spiritual maturity. There is a spiritual life, and we start off as babies in Christ, but we must grow to be mature believers in Christ. And Hebrews 5, 11 through 16 talks about it. Hebrews 5, 11 through 16, where the writer of Hebrews said, you've been saved a long time now and you ought to be teaching others, but instead you're still just babies. You need a bottle. This is sad commentary on much of Christianity today when we've exchanged the solid, sound, systematic teaching. of the word of god for more of an entertainment venue christianity so uh this is satan's objective he doesn't mind you going to church to be entertained but he doesn't want you to go to church and be fed and let me just run this analogy by you if you go to the first grade for an hour and a half a week you're never going to get out of the first grade and if you go to church and you get a 30-minute message on sunday morning 30-minute message on sunday night and a 30-minute message on wednesday That's an hour and a half a week. You're never going to grow spiritually. And most pastors, most churches will tell you, well, you need to study on your own at home. And that's true, but that's not how we grow spiritually. God gave the gift of qualified pastor teacher to disseminate his word. to teach it to you and we have million dollar churches that we're not using except a few times a week unless we have some special programs going on in there. So it's about more than reaching people for Christ. It's about taking those people that have been saved and leading them to spiritual maturity. So remember, the filling of the Holy Spirit, which is problem solving device number two, is how we keep the world and the flesh and the devil from defeating us in our spiritual growth. And spiritual growth requires us, you, me, learning, learning and exploiting those 10 problem-solving devices to the max. You should be able to give me more than one illustration of rebound. You should be able to tell me what the filling of the Holy Spirit is and the difference between the filling of the Spirit and the indwelling of the Spirit and how you quench the Spirit and how you grieve the Spirit. You should know these things because they pertain to your Christian life. You should understand how the faith rest drill operates and works and what are some of the promises that you can use. You should understand grace orientation, how we're saved by grace, live by grace, die by grace, and even have surpassing grace in heaven. All of these things, we've talked about them, and we will go back and talk about them again in review. But spiritual growth requires us learning and exploiting these 10 problem-solving devices to the max. But if we allow our flesh, our flesh, our genetically formed sin nature coming from Adam, if we allow that to control us, by committing personal sin, then we will open ourselves up to letting our emotions dictate our response to circumstances beyond our control, rather than using the faithless drill and impersonal love. I'm gonna say that one more time. That was a mouthful, I know. If you allow your flesh to assume control by committing personal sin, that means you grieve the Holy Spirit, you quench the Holy Spirit, and you allow your sin nature to take over, then you open yourself up to let your emotions dictate your response. to circumstances beyond your control, rather than letting the filling of the Holy Spirit empower you to use the faith rest drill and impersonal love. Do you remember the faith rest drill? Do you remember the concepts of virtue love, the most powerful thing that we have in our life is virtue love? God said, if you love me, you will obey me and my mandates are not grievous. That's virtue love. Virtue love is amazing. It's appreciation for God the Father and who he is and what he did and his unfailing love for us. It's amazing. So if we stay filled with the Holy Spirit and if we think divine viewpoint instead of being influenced by the lies and the cosmic system, The cosmic system, that's the devil's world. If we're not influenced by those lies of the cosmic system, then and only then can we truly live the Christ-like life that we strive for, since the Christian life is simply us emulating the lifestyle of Christ. Remember, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus, Philippians 2, 5. Remember Romans 12, 3, stop thinking of yourself in terms of arrogance beyond what you should think, but think in terms of humility as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word. So we cannot allow the cosmic system to influence our thinking. We must stay filled with the Holy Spirit, and that way we think divine viewpoint. Divine viewpoint is the Bible. It's the word of God. It's what our Lord Jesus Christ operated on, trusted in, and taught. And as we receive it, it was recorded, written down, passed on to us in the Bible. As we receive it and learn it and use it, we have the mind of Christ. The Bible is called in 1 Corinthians 2.16, the mind of Christ. But two things that are great weaknesses for us are doubt and fear. Doubt and fear are two of our greatest weaknesses, weaknesses in the sin nature. The believer who's filled with the Holy Spirit operating under the faithless drill does not know doubt and fear. There's no reason for him to know it. But if you don't stay filled with the spirit, if you operate in the cosmic system, you are subject to letting your emotions take over and they will induce doubt and fear into your life. That's exactly what they'll do. And this is how the enemy tries to manipulate you. This is his tactics to distract you from advancing to maturity is to get you preoccupied with yourself, to get you full of doubt or get you full of fear. So let's look at how we can be supremely confident that our God, our Heavenly Father, would never lie to us. He always keeps his word, always. God always keeps his word. The first thing that you and I can depend upon is this one fact. You can depend on the fact that when God said he loves you, that he is not lying. He does love you. In John 3.16, God so loved the world that for this reason he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. God loved you enough to sacrifice his son for you. The Lord Jesus Christ went to the cross and died not for any sin that he had done because he was the sinless lamb of God without spot and without blemish. But he took our place. That's why the Bible says he who knew no sin was made sin for us so that we may be made the righteousness of God through him. So you can always depend on the fact that God loves you. There are two promises in that verse in John 3.16. The first one is God so loved the world, he loves you. And the second promise is this, whoever believes in his son will receive eternal life. Whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. There are two wonderful promises from God and God does not lie. In John 10.28, the Lord Jesus Christ reinforced that promise with these words, In John 10, 10, 10, 28, he said, and I give unto them eternal life. I give eternal life to them and they will never perish. No one will ever snatch them out of my hand. My father who gave them to me is greater than all and no one will snatch them out of the father's hand. and I and the Father are one. Again, notice the promise. God doesn't lie. The promise is they will never perish. I give unto them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one has the power to snatch them out of God's hand. And finally, I and the Father are one. They're co-equal. So what he's saying is this. What I say stands as if the Father said it because they're co-equal. Now, your life will never end. You may die someday. We're all going to die. But that doesn't mean that it's ending. It just means you transfer from one realm to eternity. It means you go to heaven to be face to face with your Lord. The eye have not seen, the ear have not heard. The heart has never felt the amazing things God has for you. It's there. It's awaiting you. Those who don't believe in Christ, when they die, of course you know they go to hell to await the great white throne of judgment before eventually, since their names are not found written in the Lamb's Book of Life, Revelation 20, They're cast into the lake of fire. That's the end of them. So we want you to understand the importance of this. No one who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ will ever perish. They will never perish. The Bible promises this universe will perish in 2 Peter. The Bible promises it'll melt and all be gone away and God will create a new heaven and a new earth. So please, in 1 John 2, 25, this is the promise that he promised. Here it is. This is the promise that he promised. even eternal life. This is the promise that he had promised us, even the promise of eternal life, 1 John 2, 25. So if the Lord Jesus Christ promises something to you, you're not going to lose it. It's not going to go away. I promise you that. And we know God doesn't change his mind because he's absolute veracity. He's absolute immutability, two of his real character assets. He doesn't lie and he doesn't change. Even your failures will not cause God to reverse his promises. Did you know that? You got saved, you accepted Christ as your savior, and then you committed some horrible sin, right? Or maybe, maybe as you got educated at some liberal university, you ceased believing in God and all of a sudden changed your position and you now say that there is no God. But when you were young, you believed it and you trusted in Christ. What does the Bible say about that? In 2 Timothy 2.13, if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself. You see, once God gives to you eternal life, you're put into the body of Christ. And if God denied you, he would have to deny himself or Jesus Christ. He's not going to do that. So your failures does not cause God to reverse any of these promises that I gave to you. Listen to the words of the Lord Jesus Christ. Very interesting. In John 6, 40, it is my father's will that everyone who looks to the son and believes in him shall have eternal life. And I will raise him up at the last day. Everyone who believes in him will have eternal life and I will raise him up at the last day. Now how, how do you know that we can depend on God to keep those words? How do we know that? Because John wrote these words and this is a great comfort to us. In 1 John 5, 11 through 13, this is the testimony. This is what we have. The testimony is this, that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in his son, and he who has a son has life. And he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. Then listen to verse 13 of 1 John 5. These things I've written unto you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know, you may know that you have eternal life. It doesn't say you hope you have it. It doesn't say you're trying to have it. It says you know you have it. Ido is the Greek word. Ido. You may Ido and it means to come to understand. It means to recognize, to realize that Greek word Ido. That's what it means. Understand, recognize or realize. And it's in the subjunctive mood in the morphology of that verb, which means it's potential. Maybe you will understand that and maybe you won't because it's based on two things, such as knowledge must be obtained and not by mere intellectual activity, that's called gnosis in the Bible, And anybody can quote the Bible and learn the Bible, but that doesn't mean they believe the Bible and use it. So what we're looking for is epi-gnosis, epi being full and gnosis being knowledge. So such knowledge is obtained, if you're going to understand this, If you know this confidently, this sort of knowledge is obtained not by just mere intellectual activity, but under the filling of the Holy Spirit, after you accept Christ as your Savior, and then walking by faith. In other words, can you believe this with absolute confidence? You should. You should believe it with absolute confidence. These things I wrote unto you who believe in the name of the Son of God so you will know that you have eternal life. Don't ever say, I want to go to heaven. Don't ever say, I hope I go to heaven. Don't ever say, I'm trying to go to heaven. Say, thank God I'm going to heaven because of the finished work of Christ on the cross, and I have accepted him as my Savior. If you haven't done that, it is the most important decision you'll ever make. And you can decide right now as you're listening to this radio show. You can take just a moment and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. You can express your faith in a prayer to God the Father, and the words are not important. I mean, what I did was simply said, God, I know I'm a sinner, and I want to be saved. I want to accept Christ as my Savior. That's all I did. But it worked because God heard my prayer. God answered my prayer, and God saved me, delivered me, and he will do the same for you. I promise you. However, Satan's always going to cast doubt, always cast doubt on God's veracity. I mean, that's what he did in the garden. That's how he seduced Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. You remember that. Genesis 3, 1 through 5, Now the serpent was more smart, more subtle, smarter than any beast in the field, which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, Yea, has God said you shall not eat of every tree in the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, Well, we may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden, but that one tree... It's in the middle of the garden. God said, don't eat of it. Don't even touch it lest you'll die. And that's not what he said. He didn't say anything about don't touch it. And listen to what the devil, listen to his planning doubt in her mind. And the serpent said to the woman, you will not die. For God knows the day you eat thereof of that fruit, then your eyes will be opened and you will be as God's knowing the difference between good and evil. so he planted the doubt in her mind he appealed to her emotions and she took the forbidden fruit and shortly thereafter shows up at adam's doorstep and says honey look what i've done and i'm sure adam realized oh my word what have you done woman and then he had to make a decision as well He had to decide whether he was going to obey God or whether he also would take a bite of that forbidden fruit to maybe cover her so she wouldn't get in so much trouble. I don't know. But both of them wound up being kicked out of the Garden of Eden because they were disobedient to God. So this is exactly what Satan does. He casts doubt. It's a trick of the enemy. If you doubt your salvation and if you fear that you might have lost it, then you're gonna work a lot harder to be good and try to make it up to God, thus never have the assurance that you really are saved. In Ephesians 2, 8 and 9, the Bible says, for by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves. It's a gift of God and not of works, lest any man would brag about it. You can go to Sunday school every day of your life. You can tithe every day of your life. You can refuse to smoke, refuse to drink, refuse to say a swear word. Always pay your taxes on time and you can still die and go to hell. He that believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. And he that believeth not, the wrath of God abides on him already. How do you get saved? You're saved by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross. It's a grace gift from God. During your time on earth, you might become rather battle-weary. I mean, after all, you've got three enemies to contend with, three enemies on three different fronts, the world, the flesh, and then obviously the devil. But don't despair because your Heavenly Father will sustain you. Isaiah 40, 29, he gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. In Isaiah 41, 10, do not fear for I am with you. Do not be dismayed for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you and uphold you. with my righteous right hand. There it is. Why would you despair with those kind of promises? What kind of promises does God make if we sin? What if I sin and you sin and we fail? We do something really dumb and stupid and we're ashamed of it. 1 John 1, 9, problem-solving device number one, rebound. If we confess our sin, he's faithful and righteous to forgive our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. He does it every time. He doesn't compromise his justice by doing that. Anytime you sin, you must go to God and admit your sin freely, and he's faithful and just to forgive you. What about your future? Did the Lord Jesus Christ make any promises about that? Yes, he did in John 14, one through three. Do not let your heart be troubled. If you believe in God, believe also in me because in my father's house are many dwelling places. If it were not so, I would have told you. Now I'm going to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to myself so that where I am, you may be also. That's a promise. That's a promise from the immutable God of the universe, the Lord Jesus Christ. What kind of promise did he make in regards to divine assistance while we live in this devil's world? Well, in John 14, 16, I will ask the heavenly father and he will give you a helper so that he could be with you forever, forever. That's the Holy Spirit of truth whom the world does not receive because it doesn't know him, doesn't see him, but you know him because he abides in you and will be in you. You have a divine appointed tutor, a coach, a helper. It's the Holy Spirit. When you believed in Christ, God the Holy Spirit indwells you, and he's in you today. God promises length of days for your life if you will listen to him. In Proverbs 3, 1 and 2, my son, do not forget my teaching, but let your heart keep my commandments for a length of days and years of life and peace they will add to you. This is how you live a long, wonderful, peaceful life. How? Do not forget the teachings of God's word or his mandates. What is going on in America today? Oh, don't say anything about God's word. Don't teach anything about God's word in the public venue. Don't mention God in the public school. Don't mention God in the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what I'm talking about. Satan is doing anything he can to shut up the teaching of the clear word of God. Listen, there's some negative promises to the foo also in Proverbs 1.7. Foos despise wisdom. Foos despise instruction. Proverbs 1.22. Foos hate knowledge. In Proverbs 1, 24, because I called and you refused, I stretched out my hand and you didn't pay attention. You neglected all my counsel. You did not want my reproof. So I will laugh at you and mock you when your dread comes. When your dread comes like a storm and your calamity comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you, then you'll call on me, but I'm not going to answer. Then you'll seek me diligently, but you won't find me because you hated knowledge. You didn't want to know. You wanted God to be a genie in an eight ball, and he doesn't play that little game. So can you trust God? Absolutely. Would he ever lie to you? No, he would not. Our Father would never tell you a story. He loves you. He provided for you. He gave his son for you. It's the most wonderful gift anyone could ever receive. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
This week's episode covers a range of pressing topics, beginning with the significant military operation overseen by President Trump. Hear firsthand accounts and insights into the precision bombing of Iran's nuclear sites and the complex geopolitical ramifications that followed. Join the discussion as we provide analysis and reactions from key figures, as well as the emotional undertones captured in Trump's national address.
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Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. I'm Eric Hansen. It's Friday, June 27th, 2025. This week, Democrats have their candidate for New York City mayor, and it's a doozy. Plus, Dr. Phil diagnoses the ills of the DNC, and Dr. Sebastian Gorka visits the show. We begin with President Trump's decision to bomb Iran's nuclear sites. What?
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It is righteous to support a president who has said over and over and over again, if elected president, I will prevent Iran from being able to fulfill their promise to take out their enemy with nukes. And when he does it, we've got people who are perfectly content to harp and chirp and chip away. And I've had it. Let's listen to the president. I can play the whole speech. And I can't often say that about President Trump's speech. This is probably the first time ever that I can say, you know what? We can take a couple of moments and play President Trump's address to the nation uncharacteristically on time at 10 p.m. Eastern Saturday night and uncharacteristically brief.
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Here he is. A short time ago, the U.S. military carried out massive precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime, Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan. Everybody heard those names for years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise. Our objective was the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one state sponsor of terror. Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated. Iran, the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier. For 40 years, Iran has been saying, death to America, death to Israel. They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their legs with roadside bombs. That was their specialty. We lost over 1,000 people, and hundreds of thousands throughout the Middle East and around the world have died as a direct result of their hate. In particular, so many were killed by their general, Qasem Soleimani. I decided a long time ago that I would not let this happen. It will not continue. I want to thank and congratulate Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu. We worked as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before. And we've gone a long way to erasing this horrible threat to Israel. I want to thank the Israeli military for the wonderful job they've done. And most importantly, I want to congratulate the great American patriots who flew those magnificent machines tonight and all of the United States military on an operation the likes of which the world has not seen in many, many decades. Hopefully, we will no longer need their services in this capacity. I hope that's so. I also want to congratulate the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Raisenkane, spectacular general, and all of the brilliant military minds involved in this attack. With all of that being said, this cannot continue. There will be either peace or there will be tragedy for Iran far greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days. Remember, there are many targets left. Tonight's was the most difficult of them all, by far, and perhaps the most lethal. But if peace does not come quickly, we will go after those other targets with precision, speed and skill. Most of them can be taken out in a matter of minutes. There's no military in the world that could have done what we did tonight. Not even close. There has never been a military that could do what took place just a little while ago. Tomorrow, General Kane, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth will have a press conference at 8 a.m. at the Pentagon. And I want to just thank everybody and In particular, God, I want to just say we love you, God, and we love our great military. Protect them. God bless the Middle East. God bless Israel. And God bless America. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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You don't often hear President Trump have a little catch in his voice. And I don't know about you, but I detected some emotion when he thanked God for for blessing our troops and our country. I detected a sense of relief that not one hair was harmed on one member of our military. These brave men and women who flew, what, 30-plus hours from the middle of the country, our country, over to Iran after a decoy They sent planes out west to the west. They were detectable. They sent our B-2s out east. They were undetectable. And it was a brilliant mission.
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It only took a few days for Israel and Iran to agree to a ceasefire in the wake of the U.S. bombing. How solid is it? It may be too soon to tell.
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As best as I can understand it, Iran sent a lone rocket towards Israel. Israel, of course, intercepted it, thankfully. But then Israel unleashed hell on Iran. And President Trump is not happy. He is headed to the NATO summit. You could tell he... Well, I guess you could always... Understand how angry somebody is when they drop the F-bomb. All the things I've done in my career, I've never had to bleep a president. I mean, this is him intentionally talking to reporters moments ago as he boarded Marine One. But his characterization is perfect. It's pitch perfect. This is what's so hard about the Middle East. They've been fighting so long, and they've been fighting so hard and so blindly, they don't know what they're doing. They don't know up from down. And he's mad about it. He doesn't understand it. Ceasefire was in place. A missile goes from Iran to Israel. Israel says, OK, here we go. And they unleash hell. And Trump hates it so much so that he actually used the F word, which, of course, we will dutifully bleep here on the Mike Gallagher show.
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Do you believe that Iran is still committed to peace? Yeah, I do. They violated it, but Israel violated it, too. Are you questioning if Israel is committed to peace? Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, OK, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not happy about that. You know what, we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the they're doing. Do you understand that?
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Ouch. Holy cow. Never heard him fired up like that. For all of the bluster and all of the bravado, he's relatively measured. You know what I mean? He doesn't really... And I don't know that that isn't measured either. He's just saying, you know what? These guys have got to stop messing around. They've got to calm down, he said. And they've got to knock it off. And it sounds to me like he's more frustrated with Israel than he is Iran. Do you get that take? It sounds to me like that's the issue here, that Israel overreacted. And, of course, one wonders, well, what's Iran doing? If there's a ceasefire, then make sure that the ceasefire is in place and you honor the ceasefire. Yeah.
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The conflict in the Middle East stirred up both sides of the aisle, so much so that even the president's supporters are fighting with one another.
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Who would you rather be mad at you, Marjorie Taylor Greene or Mark Levin? I mean, this back and forth, I hate this. I really do. Mark Levin is just taking on, and I love Mark, always have, the great one, as his friend Sean Hannity always calls him. I've known Mark for years. I've interviewed Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene for a number of years. They're going at it like War of the Roses. This is like a Glenn Close movie or something. Marjorie Taylor Greene started out, and she opposes our intervention at all with this. She doesn't want us involved in any way, shape, or form. She says, my thoughts on bombing Iran, I don't know anyone in America who's been the victim of a crime or killed by Iran. But I know many people who've been victims of crime committed by criminal illegal aliens or murdered by cartel and Chinese fentanyl drugs. Her concern is that we're going to take our eye off the ball here in America. She says, I'm Gen X. I've watched our country go to war in foreign lands for foreign causes, and on and on. Real long and, you know, very compelling arguments. I want to fund American interests and issues. I want low inflation, low interest rate. Americans are exhausted by all this stuff in the Middle East. That's not disloyalty. Critical thinking, having my own opinions, is the most American thing ever. I pray for the safety of all people and an end to the constant demand for America to go to war. Enough is enough. So Mark Levin responds, Marjorie Taylor Greene, shameless nitwit. How incredibly dumb is this Marjorie Taylor Greene? She doesn't know anyone in America who's been a victim of a crime or killed by Iran? You mean the thousands of Americans, especially military personnel, killed and maimed by the Iranian terrorist regime? Well, then she responds, I also don't know anyone who watches your show on Fox News. And my last name is Green, and she spells it properly with an E, G-R-E-E-N-E. Well, Mark then responds, MTG, God, are you stupid? And you keep banging your head against the wall. Thankfully, POTUS ignored you and hit the Iranian nuclear sites. You seem very upset about it. I'm not going away. You're on my radar. Yikes! She's on Mark's radar. So then she concludes this exchange for now by saying the following. This is extremely sick and disturbing. Mark, you have the exact same tone and language that the psychopaths use that send me death threats every single day. You should be fired from Fox News and shame on Fox if they condone this. Let me introduce you to my friend Jesus. He says, blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called the children of God. I will do my best to pray for you, but I will be watching now. She said, there was once a great president the American people loved. He opposed Israel's nuclear program. Then he was assassinated. I am for peace. I oppose war, including war's Israel wages. Should I feel that my life is in danger now, too? Anyway, you get the picture. I don't like any of that. I don't like seeing these guys. And he's also, Mark is also fired up about Tucker Carlson. He's going at Tucker with both... Guns blazing. And look, I don't want to get on his radar either, but I think they all got to calm down a little bit here. Aren't they all sort of on the same side? Don't you think that... People can have a disagreement about the role that we're playing without getting so vitriolic and personal and hateful and mean.
SPEAKER 12 :
Legal cannabis sparked a fierce debate in Texas this week. Mike stirred the pot of this controversy with his pal Mark Davis on the Eminem Experience.
SPEAKER 09 :
I walked into the studio today and I got buried with all these text messages. People are mad at my buddy Mark Davis in Dallas because Mark's mad at Governor Greg Abbott. of Texas over a THC ban. Apparently the Texas legislature wants to ban marijuana, and Governor Abbott, I think, if I'm understanding it correctly, is going to veto the ban. So Mark has written a column. In fact, Tracy, see if you can find Mark's column in the Star-Telegram. He wrote a column denouncing Governor Greg Abbott, saying that he betrayed his constituents by promising to veto this THC ban. And he did veto it. It would have banned THC, of course, the active ingredient in marijuana. And Abbott vetoed the ban. He called for a special session to reconsider the legislation. Abbott is pushing for legislators to regulate hemp and fully fund an enforcement division in the state. Now, his lieutenant governor says that Governor Abbott wants to legalize recreational marijuana. And that, let's face it, that's the goal here. That's the agenda that a lot of people have. I don't know if it's Greg Abbott's agenda or not. And I don't want to touch this issue. You talk about kryptonite. Look, all it does is infuriate people who want recreational marijuana legalized. This is not medicinal. Everybody knows this whole thing about medical marijuana is a ruse. It's a scam. This weekend I was in New York City. The whole island of Manhattan smells like it's under a giant cloud of marijuana with everybody smoking pot on every street corner and marijuana, you know, cannabis dispensaries or whatever you call them on every street corner. And look, this is weird for me because I got a lot of vices. I got a lot of faults. I have lots of problems. I'm impatient. I'm selfish. Until I found PhD weight loss, I eat too much. But I don't drink or smoke pot. I don't do anything that alters my behavior. I don't handle it well. I don't like how it makes me feel. I don't like getting drunk. I don't like getting tipsy. I'm pretty much a teetotaler. And I know it's funny when I go out to eat with people and everybody's ordering wine and scotch and bourbon and I have my Diet Coke and everybody looks at me like, oh, Mike's an alcoholic. Too bad. Poor Mike. Yeah. I'm not an alcoholic. I just don't like what it does to me. And I don't like how marijuana makes me feel. I mean, a couple times years ago when I was a kid, I tried pot and not a good experience. So I'm in a weird place with this because I feel like I'm utterly unqualified to weigh in. I know that people who want recreational marijuana are adamant and they are passionate about And they're loud and they're angry at anybody who wants to take it away. Mark believes that marijuana is just a horrible scourge on society, that just legalizing yet one more mind-altering substance is a bad idea. I get it. I understand how he feels. But I have a feeling that in many ways that ship has almost sailed. But I could be wrong. I don't want to touch it. So this is one of those rare times when I'm going to say, please don't call me and yell at me about the medical marijuana issue. Because I know how volatile this thing gets. Mark wrote a piece of the Star-Telegram article. about the betrayal. I mean, here's another piece by Eleanor Dearman. Is this Mark? I guess this isn't Mark's column. I guess somebody else wrote a column about the same thing the other day. But we'll get our hands on Mark's column here in just a moment. I think marijuana causes a lot of harm that people don't want to acknowledge, to be honest with you. It creates an attitude of sort of apathy and lethargy. But again, I'm just a boring teetotaler. I don't know what it might feel like for somebody who has got a real, truly challenging medical condition that might be alleviated by THC. I'm just not equipped to even tackle it. My mom was a cancer patient. 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Promo code MyG. This is the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. I'm Eric Hansen. Secretary of State Marco Rubio appeared on CBS's Face the Nation this week where he absolutely smoked host Margaret Brennan.
SPEAKER 09 :
Every time I see Marco Rubio give an interview to a hostile reporter, I get more and more impressed with this guy. So he went to CBS, Face the Nation. And Margaret Brennan once again got demolished, as she often does, by guests who are in the know. Can you imagine a TV anchor scolding the Secretary of State, who obviously is literally in the room where it happens, who's right in the middle of it all, right in the middle of the planning, the meticulous military precision operation that took place, Margaret Brennan is trying to tell Marco Rubio about intelligence, about tactics, about our military. I mean, the audacity of it. I get asking questions. But when you act like you're smarter about something like Operation Midnight Hammer than the secretary of state. You're embarrassing yourself. Somebody posted over the weekend on social media, at this point, it's just flat-out abuse to send Margaret out to get demolished on TV by Marco Rubio after the adults have to clean up Joe Biden's mess. Check out this exchange.
SPEAKER 10 :
Are you saying there that the United States did not see intelligence that the Supreme Leader had ordered weaponization?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's irrelevant. I see that question being asked on the media all the time. That's an irrelevant question.
SPEAKER 10 :
That is the key point in U.S. intelligence assessments. You know that. No, it's not. Yes, it was. No, it's not. The political decision had not been made.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know that better than you know that, and I know that that's not the case.
SPEAKER 10 :
But I'm asking you whether the order was given.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the people who say that. It doesn't matter if the order was given. They have everything they need to build nuclear weapons. Why would you bury things in a mountain 300 feet under the ground? Why do they have 60% enriched uranium? You don't need 60% enriched uranium. The only countries in the world that have uranium at 60% are countries that have nuclear weapons because they can quickly make it 90. They have all the elements. Why do they have a space program? Is Iran going to go to the moon? No. They're trying to build an ICBM so they can put a warhead on it.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's a question of intent. And you know in the intelligence assessment that it was that Iran wanted to be a threshold state and use this leverage. How do you know what the intelligence assessment says? I'm talking about the public March assessment. And that's why I was asking you if you know something more from March.
SPEAKER 11 :
But that's also an inaccurate representation of it. That's an accurate representation of it. That's not how intelligence is read. That's not how intelligence is used. Here's what the whole world knows. Forget about intelligence. What the IAEA knows, they are enriching uranium well beyond anything you need for a civil nuclear program. So why would you enrich uranium at 60%? if you don't intend to one day use it to take it to 90 and build a weapon. Why are you developing ICBMs? Why do you have 8,000 short-range missiles and 2,000 to 3,000 mid-range missiles that you continue to develop? Why do you do all these things? They have everything they need for a nuclear weapon. They have the delivery mechanisms. They have the enrichment capability. They have the highly enriched uranium that is stored. That's all we need to see. Especially in the hands of a regime that's already involved in terrorism and proxies and all kinds of things. They are the source of all instability in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 10 :
No one's disputing that. I'm not doing that here. And they were censured at the IAEA for that enrichment and for violating their nonproliferation agreements. I was simply asking if we had intelligence that there was an order to weaponize, because you said weaponization ambitions.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we have intelligence that they have everything they need to build a nuclear weapon, and that's more than enough.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know I shouldn't laugh, but all I can do is find that comical. The host of Face the Nation is telling the Secretary of State what the intelligence assessment is. You heard him at one point say, how do you know what the intelligence assessment is? He's sitting there, I'm the Secretary of State, dummy. What are you doing sitting there, you know, at your anchor desk telling me what the conclusion is of our intelligence community? I am the Secretary of State, you know.
SPEAKER 12 :
We got an insider take of the U.S. bombing in Iran this week when Deputy Special Assistant to the President and our old friend, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, appeared on the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sebastian Gorka serves as deputy assistant to President Trump, senior director for counterterrorism, the National Security Council. I don't know, Seb, if you could hear before you joined us, but your friend and, of course, colleague Pete Hegseth saying, look, when President Trump speaks, the world ought to listen. He fulfilled that Saturday night, didn't he?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm really shocked by those who pretend that they were MAGA voters and for all those with Trump derangement syndrome who are surprised that we pulled this off. I was in the White House Situation Room on Saturday evening. And everybody who was surprised by it has been asleep, has been a Rip Van Winkle for the last decade. God bless Caroline Leavitt, who just last week from the podium here at the White House said, you do know that even before he ran in 2011, President Trump, as a private citizen, said Iran should never acquire nuclear weapons. And then... If you go back to that momentous occasion, Mike, I know it's seared on your cerebellum in that beautiful golden tower in Manhattan when he came down the escalators and he gave that speech where he declared, I'm running for the presidency. Part of that speech. was exactly this. He said, we will never permit Iran to acquire nuclear weapons. Why? Because it's a fascistic, theocratic regime that calls for the destruction of America every single Friday. So now he's the commander-in-chief. It's just another promise kept. And can I just go to that little clip you played of my friend Pete and the amazing Chairman Kaine? There is... Tom Clancy doesn't come close to this. I'm sorry that the TV shows, the movies, the Jason board doesn't touch this. The idea that we had this package of stealth bombers fly halfway across the world. Nobody knew they were coming from here. as opposed to Diego Garcia. And the fact that they did this mission without one shot, Mike, being fired, without one Iranian interceptor, one fighter plane getting off the launch pad. Why? Because we are the greatest military force the world has ever seen. And as Pete said, you better listen to the commander in chief, the president, Donald J. Trump.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, you're one of the strongest straight shooters I've ever met. I want to get your wisdom, your common sense reaction to those who are second guessing Saturday night's military success. Whether it's, you know, the Democrats and Hakeem Jeffries or all the Democrats are lining up. This was awful. This is an impeachable offense and all this other stuff. Does that mean, Seb... that they actually support Iran's nuclear ambitions? I posted that question on social media over the weekend. I thought, well, look, this is kind of a binary choice here. If you don't like stopping Iran from being able to advance their nuclear aspirations, does that mean you want Iran to have nuclear aspirations? Is that oversimplifying things, or is that how you see it?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's very simple. I mean, what is Iran? Go back to the photographs of our 50-plus hostages taken in the embassy in 1979. Go back to the Beirut bombing where hundreds of U.S. Marines were killed by an organization that was funded and controlled by the regime, the proxy masters in Tehran. Go back to just the nature of the regime. I mean, really, the party that says they're for the small guy, for ethnic minorities, for LGBTQ, LMNOP, this is a regime that throws people off rooftops if they're homosexuals. This is the regime that beats women and sometimes shoots them to death if they take their head scarves off their heads. So it's worse than what you said, Mike. If you're against Operation Midnight Hammer, the most exquisitely sublime perfect military operation of the modern age, then not only are you on the side of Iran, you're also in favor of them acquiring nuclear weapons. It truly is that simple, my friend.
SPEAKER 12 :
New York City residents faced a terrible choice this week in the Democratic mayoral primary. Vote for an anti-Semitic, anti-police, radical socialist or disgraced former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. Guess who they chose? We reached out to New York defense attorney and talk host Arthur Idalla about what comes next.
SPEAKER 09 :
What about the things he can do? And that's what terrifies a lot of normal people who can't believe that the Democrat voters did what they did last night.
SPEAKER 04 :
So my phone has been blowing up with people like us. Here's, you know, you talked about in one of your commercials about your age. People who were out yesterday in 100-degree weather campaigning vigorously for Mamdani, they do not remember pre-Rudy Giuliani New York City. They don't remember. My office in Manhattan is right next to Bryant Park. People go there in the afternoon and watch movies and have a cocktail. In 1989, if you walked through Bryant Park, you weren't coming out without getting robbed, beat up, terrorized, assaulted in some way. They forget what Times Square was like with all the pornography and the crack and the knives and the scariness. These kids, they don't know that. So that's the direction, you know, this city would be going in under Imam Dhani. Unless, unless he won, he was smart enough to hire a great police commissioner. As much as you want to brag on de Blasio, he did have Bill Bratton as his police commissioner.
SPEAKER 09 :
But this guy wants to, but he wants to defund the police.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know, I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
He wants to replace— I'm terrified. Look, Arthur, I heard somebody allege that he wanted to actually remove the police from high-crime neighborhoods in New York. I thought, that's not possible. That can't be. I saw it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears. He said it in an interview. He wants to remove police because too many people get arrested in high crime neighborhoods and they get persecuted because they're people of color. He wants to replace the cops with social workers. Every bit of the rabid, crazy, radical agenda that you imagine, you dream up, he believes in. He thinks these things.
SPEAKER 04 :
Before I lose you, Mike, let me give you a little breaking news. I spoke to Andrew Cuomo this morning at length. I spoke to Eric Adams' campaign manager. I missed Eric Adams' call. He called me as well. The bottom line is they both understand that one of them needs to be the next mayor. They both believe that they should be the next mayor if the polling shows that one of them, it's all out to beat Mamdani. Now, you got Curtis Lee running as a Republican. That's a problem because he's going to draw votes from normal people as well. Somehow or another, the smartest New Yorkers have to get together and say, this is the one guy who can beat Mom Donnie. Whether it's Sleewe on the Republican line, whether it's Eric Adams as the incumbent on the independent line, whether it's Cuomo on an independent line, but whoever is the most likely to beat Mom Donnie has to be the one person. Everyone coalesces around and run against, and because this kid can't be the mayor of the city of New York, we would be in for a world of hurt.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, I think about a guy that I've known over the years, John Katsimatidis, who is this— I was going to mention his name.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was going to mention his name. He's got to be a real kingmaker here and say, look, the polls show that Cuomo's best to beat Mamdani, or Eric is best to beat Mamdani, and the other guy has to endorse whoever is leading in the polls.
SPEAKER 09 :
And John's a high-profile Republican and, of course, a broadcaster. He owns WABC and, of course, he appears on AM 970, The Answer, every night. But he also owns the Gristini's supermarket chain. One of the agenda items for this lunatic is to funnel funds, to confiscate funds from corporate grocery stores to fund city-owned grocery stores so that there's no profit on groceries. Now, that'll put Gristiti's out of business. And I believe I saw an interview, I think, with John a few weeks ago. He said, if this happens, we'll pull Gristiti's out of the city. We'll have to.
SPEAKER 04 :
We'll have to. That's what I was talking about with Joy Reid last time on CNN. So you get a billionaire like John Katsimatidis who says, I'm going to pull this out. I'm going to pull that out. My primary reason is no longer to be in New York City. I'm going to move out to my house in Quag in the Hamptons. That's it. That's the domino effect and everything starts falling. So, you know, we need, as New Yorkers who are educated, who are mature, who know what history has held for this city and how bad it could be. That's the problem. The young people don't know about how bad the subways was, the graffiti, the grime. So those like the John Katsimatidis of the world have to come together and say, look, guys, all three of you can't run. Sliwa, Cuomo, and Eric, we got to pick one, and that's our guy.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dr. Phil rarely expresses a political opinion, so when he does, it is worth taking notice. His diagnosis of what ails the modern Democratic Party is devastating.
SPEAKER 09 :
I want you to hear Dr. Phil's rant. This is a great monologue about the Democrat Party of 2025. He says it's unrecognizable. And I wanted to play a big chunk of it because I thought you'd appreciate what Dr. Phil had to say about today's Democrats. Here it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
The Democratic Party seems to have gone off the deep end. Maybe we need to blow it up and bring it back to its roots. The real story is that the Democratic Party is not a progressive party anymore. Now, I've often said, I'm not really into politics, so what am I doing talking about Political parties. Well, I'll tell you why I'm talking about it. Because I'm talking about it from a cultural standpoint, and I strongly believe, psychologically, we need two parties in this country. We don't just need the Republican Party. We just don't need the Democrats. We need two parties in this country, but they need to be real parties. And most of the Democrats I talk to tell me that they didn't leave the Democratic Party. They say the Democratic Party left them. They say it was hijacked by the extreme left liberals, that the fringe took over the party. And so it's not what they thought it was. It's not what it has been all this time. Right now, it's just a pathetic party sending America back to the Stone Ages. Yeah! Making up a bunch of ideology that doesn't make common sense. It's not really about the people. Now, look, we know it. Real Democrats know it. Here are the headlines. Democrats are deeply pessimistic about the future of their party. Another headline. Another one. what happened to the democratic party the squalid state of our present political institutions points to a failure of not just individuals but the system as a whole now someone i respect greatly told me and i quote the existing democratic party has become the party of hamas hate and waste is it fair to call the democrats the party of hamas well In April, a Pew study, 69% of Dems are anti-Israel. Now, shortly after October 7th, 22 Democratic House representatives voted against a resolution condemning those supporting Hamas at U.S. universities.
SPEAKER 06 :
You would agree that this is this is calling for the destruction of the state of Israel. This is this is after the senator. Oh, it's not. This isn't calling for the killing of Jews.
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't know that person and I don't know that sign.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, you don't know what this means.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, understand Hamas has been around since the early 80s. And since that time, they have murdered 48 Americans. They've held American hostages. Edon Alexander was just released a few weeks ago. But yet we have Democratic representatives voting against a resolution to condemn them. Democratic Congressman Richie Torres called out his party last month.
SPEAKER 02 :
If you're an academic or an activist, a politician or a journalist, who is downplaying or even denying the genocidal ideology at the core of October 7th, then you are not part of the solution. You are part of the problem.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're either with Israel or you're against Israel. And if you're against Israel, then you're on the same side as Hamas. They want to eradicate Israel.
SPEAKER 01 :
What do you think it means from the river to the sea?
SPEAKER 05 :
That means they want to completely wipe Israel and everybody in it off the map. Is it fair to call the Democrats the party of hate?
SPEAKER 07 :
In March, Representative Jasmine Crockett said, And all I want to see happen on my birthday is for Eli to be taken down.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is not a one-time thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's Ted Cruz. I mean, like, this dude has to be knocked over the head, like, hard.
SPEAKER 05 :
The history of hate speech. This seems to just keep popping its head up. Hillary Clinton. You can put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. When Trump gave his address, it wasn't a say of the union. He was just kind of giving an almost hundred-day message. The Democrats wouldn't applaud a young black child who had overcome brain cancer or the return of Mark Fogle, who was held hostage in Russia. Now, people say, okay, come on. That was a ploy. They were put there to play on the heartstrings. Of course. There was no question that they were there for effect. They were very real stories. And real people respond to real stories. D.C. is often about theater, and the Democrats sat on their hands. Somebody needs to talk to these people. How do you think this is playing? As far as waste, Democrats even waste their own money. $20 million study on how to speak to American men. Hell, Robin will tell you that without even charging you. They passed a $1.9 trillion spending package during COVID. Where did that money go? Well, $350 billion of it went to bail out lockdown blue states. $50 million on climate justice. $200 million for the Institute of Museum and Library Services. $50 million for Planned Parenthood. Maybe it's time to ask, what would a new Democratic Party look like? Well, I'll tell you what I think it would look like if it was robust. And I want it to be robust. Everybody thinks, oh, you're a big Republican. You don't know that. You don't know how I vote. You don't know what I think. I look at policies. I look at positions. There are a lot of things I agree with the old Democratic Party about, some things I disagree with the current Republican Party about. But here's how I would look at a Democratic Party that I felt like would be really robust and good for dialogue. A robust Democratic Party would respect the law. If it didn't like a given law, it would lobby Congress to change it. It would not vilify those enforcing it. It would not say defund the police. It would not be throwing rocks at ICE agents' heads. If they didn't like the law, they would get into Congress and change it.
SPEAKER 09 :
A little bit of a just kind of a common sense monologue from Dr. Phil that I thought was appropriate. He's right. The Democrat Party is unrecognizable. Not a party that my late parents would recognize, probably your parents. So we'll see how things go, but I thought you'd appreciate Dr. Phil's wisdom.
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And that wraps up the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast for Friday, June 27th, 2025. I'm Eric Hansen. Be sure to subscribe to all the podcasts and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you like the show, be sure to share it with a friend. We'll see you back here next week on the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast.
On today's program: Dr. Andy Harris, U.S. Representative for the 1st District of Maryland, breaks down what he thinks will happens after the Senate's sweeping changes to the Big Beautiful Bill and applauds the Supreme Court's ruling to rein in