In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush welcomes Steve House and Dr. Kelly to discuss some astonishing revelations in social security mismanagement, highlighting cases where individuals received unemployment benefits before they were even born. The dialogue extends into a critical discussion on bureaucratic inefficiencies exemplified by the IRS's struggles to make simple website updates. The conversation offers an in-depth exploration of the healthcare system's intrinsic flaws, with Dr. Kelly and Steve shedding light on how misaligned incentives have skewed oncological practices, prompting a broader analysis of healthcare policies in the United States. John, despite battling a stubborn sinus infection, passionately guides the discussion towards potential solutions for resetting our healthcare systems. As the episode progresses, Dr. Kelly addresses prevailing theories concerning the link between environmental factors like fluoride and the rise in autism spectrum disorders. A narrative unfolds about the pressing need to reevaluate and reform practices in both government and healthcare to better serve the public and ensure ethical conduct.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush, presented by Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right. Happy Thursday, everybody. And yes, my voice is still a little froggy, but I feel fine. Yes. And I mean that sincerely. Yes, I actually feel much better than I sound. And Dr. Scott got me all fixed up late last night, which I appreciate greatly. And Charlie, I just got notification. You can call Steve anytime now. He just texted me. So we're waiting for Dr. Kelly as well. But Steve House should be joining me here in just one moment. So and by the way, thank you all for the. A lot of you texted late last night and even this morning and asked how I felt and so on. And I, by the way, I appreciate that greatly. You guys are really great. We have just fabulous listeners. And literally, I cannot I cannot say enough good things about all of you and really appreciate them. the kind words and you don't have to do that but i appreciate that you do and like i said dr scott did a great job of taking care of me last night which is a plug for him by the way that's how it works it doesn't matter where you live if you're his patient and you get you know your initial consultation and all that taken care of he will take care of the rest from that point forward and the mistake i made is i should have um called him sooner in the week but Some of us men can be very stubborn at times. So Steve House joining us now. Steve, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Still a little bit like an idiot and a slacker today, John, because I didn't get my first paycheck until I was about 12 years old. Turns out there's someone out there who got their first $41,000 in pay 129 years before they were born, even. Wow. How does that happen?
SPEAKER 13 :
That is a great question, because I think my first... I'd have to go back and look at my Social Security. I was about like you. I think I was 14 or so when I got my first actual paycheck with taxes taken out, I want to say.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but how is it that you can get unemployment insurance when you're not born until 2154? Yeah, great question. They pay you $41,000 worth of it, and they just keep paying you. There's no good answer to those questions, and yet $400 million later... a whole bunch of people between zero and five, not yet born, or over 115 got paid. And it's insane.
SPEAKER 13 :
Great point. And yet, Steve, and I've talked about this some this week, and yet we've got all of these hands-off protests going on around the country, and I'm thinking to myself, you want hands-off of that? Why?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think that they... First of all, they don't pay attention, right? I mean, that's part of the problem, right? I mean, in almost any category in the world today, you can do research and learn something about what you're dealing with and what you should be dealing with, and people just don't. They do research on the things that they're fascinated by or the things that they really hate, right? There's a lot of research being done about how bad Elon Musk is and where he came from. He's a Nazi and apartheid. They're not doing anything on his... you know, charitable stuff, the fact that he's paid 10 million in taxes, you know, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. It's what you choose to think about. Fortunately for us, I think, I know for me, I look at MSN, I look at CNN, I look at Fox News, I look at the way they talk about different aspects. I don't trust any of them a lot, but, you know, this kind of thing, $400 million, and we've got people who live in Aurora, Colorado, in some parts of eastern Denver, you know, along Colfax Avenue, where, you know, $500,000 would rebuild a school, or at least a part of a school, and yet the money's going to somebody who hasn't even been born yet.
SPEAKER 13 :
True. No, Steve, again, it's just, to me, it's just, I mean, I don't think ironic's even the right word. It's just, it's maddening. to look at the things that Doge keeps finding, which I don't know if you noticed the headline today, and I didn't get a chance to go check this out, but this would not surprise me. Supposedly, somebody internal in the IRS told the Doge IT team that it would take 103 days to change the login button and where it's located on the IRS's website, and Doge did it in 70 minutes.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. And how much did IRS pay for it? Probably about $2 million or something to have it done. I know. It's like... We used to think that the toilet seat, the $900 toilet seat was a lot of money. That was a bargain compared to the crap we're seeing now.
SPEAKER 13 :
That is very well said. Okay, so here's a question for you. Before we get Dr. Kelly on with us, we're waiting for her to join us. We've got a few more minutes here. So you're in the admin side of this. You see a lot of this. You know darn good and well where a lot of this waste, fraud, and abuse is at. Will we really get a good handle on this when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER 05 :
When is a good question because – You know, the problem in health care itself, you know, there's some fraud, waste and abuse in health care like anything else. And we'll see that when they clean up HHS. But the bigger problem in health care is it's radically misaligned incentives. The regulation is so overwhelming that having spent the entire day in a hospital today and talking to nurses, doctors, and other people. First of all, almost everyone's angry. Secondly, they don't believe. In fact, I saw two doctors had a conversation with two at one time, and I asked them about their training, medical training. Both of them had been practicing for more than 25 years, and they looked at me at the same time almost and said, we were lied to. I'm like, What do you mean you were lied to? Well, you know, they told us all kinds of things about drugs and vaccines and different stuff that just aren't true. And we know that now. We know that there's certain things we shouldn't be doing and we're still doing them or we were still doing them. And I said, what changed? And they said, quite frankly, in different answers at different points, they said, you know, when COVID came and they were threatening us and they were telling us we couldn't use hydroxychloroquine and things like that we couldn't use antivirals that was a point of major suspicion and then once we started to see the vaccine and the big push and stuff like that it was like you know what i don't this is not who i am this is not the science i learned this is not right and oh by the way i was gaslit and i was lied to and now i don't even know if i still want to be a doctor oh great point dr kelly now joining us as well dr kelly welcome how are you today
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm fine, and my apologies. I was tied up with a patient. Oh, it's all right. It was after the top of the hour.
SPEAKER 13 :
That is just fine, not a problem. You heard the tail end of what we were talking about, which you have great commentary on that as well, and Steve is spot on. What spawned that question, Dr. Kelly, as I asked Steve earlier, with Doge and everything we're finding, all of the waste, fraud, abuse, the fact that people were getting Social Security checks long before they were born even, you look at all that and think, okay, when or will we ever get a handle on that on the medical sides of things?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, it's a great question. I certainly hope so, but there is so much that we don't know. There's been so much fraud, so much abuse, and frankly, so much attempt to cover it up that I'm not sure we truly get to the bottom of it. I think if nothing else, maybe we have a clean slate moving forward. In some ways, I think the best case scenario is that moving forward is You know, there's a new sheriff in town. They're putting new policies and procedures in place. Hopefully they're trying to clean up the records and clean up the registries. But best case scenario, I think we kind of start over going forward. I'm not sure that we'll ever get the backlog cleaned up.
SPEAKER 13 :
Steve, and I can't disagree with Dr. Kaelin, you guys know the insides of this way better than I do. And sorry for my voice. I apologize to the audience. I've not been great all week. I had a really bad sinus infection. And I'm finally now starting to feel much better. So sorry for my voice. It's a little rough on that and things, but I feel great. I sound a lot worse than I actually am. But, Steve, I want to go back to you on the admin software side. And I look at Doge, and I look at the team that's there. I look at Elon Musk. The guy's brilliant. I mean, anybody that would say otherwise is not very smart, by the way, because you look at the guy and what he actually can do. And I'm with Dr. Kelly. Clean slate, move forward. Question is, can we... software and system-wise make that a clean slate moving forward? Or is there just so much red tape? In other words, how do we get to that point where there's a clean slate moving forward?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think it goes to the first part of the answer I gave you before, which is, yeah, you know what? I struggle with just a clean slate because on one hand, I think there's been so much, so many people have abused the system, but there may be no other way. But here's the answer. The then doctors can't get paid, nurses can't get paid, whatever, hospitals can't get paid for doing the wrong thing. For example, I mean, if there wasn't $39,000 available to have a COVID death, you wouldn't have had COVID deaths that weren't really COVID deaths. So to clean it up, you've got to change the incentive structure to be the proper incentive for what's best for American health, not health care, but best for American health. Until we do that, John, I think we're going to struggle. And I do think, like Kelly said, I don't know if we'll ever understand or comprehend the depth of waste, fraud and abuse in health care.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I think there's nowhere, by the way, where aligning incentives is more profound than in oncology care. Chemotherapy is the only class of drugs where the prescribing physician gets a kickback. The average oncologist, 55% of their income comes from chemotherapy.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, you know what, Dr. Kelly, that's the first, I've never heard you say that. That's news to me today. I just learned something. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is the only class of drugs. If you come to see me and I give you a prescription for amoxicillin versus zithromycin, it doesn't make any difference. Or this statin drug versus another, no difference. The only class of drugs that is not the case is chemotherapy. Oncologists purchase the chemotherapy from the pharmaceutical company. They are allowed by law to... to inflate it by 6%, and then they sell it to the patient. The average chemotherapy regimen costs $100,000 a year. So the oncologist makes $6,000 on that. If they have 500 patients on chemotherapy, which would not be uncommon, that's $300,000. Wow. Wow, I did not know that. More than 55% of the income of the average oncologist is from their sale of chemotherapy. Now, that is a conflict of interest.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Beyond, okay? Yeah, it is. And until people, patients understand that, it is wrong. There's absolutely no justification for it. And you cannot tell me that that incentive doesn't impact the way some oncologists are going to think and what studies they're willing to believe, you know, and on and on. And it's a racket.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it's basically, Steve, in you and I's world, that's basically like... the sales rep of whatever item it is they're trying to push, having a direct communication or line of communication to the customer and not being neutral at the end of the day. In this case, to Dr. Kelly's point, these doctors are not neutral in my opinion.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there's actually in Michigan, and I was around when this happened, there was a doctor who was diagnosing people with cancer when they didn't have it. And he was giving them chemotherapy for significant periods of time because he was getting all the money Kelly's talking about. I mean, the incentive was wrong, and that's why I mean, you can start with a clean slate, but you've got to change the incentive. You can't have a doctor giving... AZT to an AIDS patient anymore, but some still do because the amount of money that's involved in administering that as a treatment is substantially higher than what we do. But you would literally had a guy in Michigan who gave it to hundreds of patients who didn't actually have cancer and they took chemotherapy and he made a fortune and he finally got caught. Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I'm sure, you know, listen, I'm sure there are many, many excellent oncologists, caring oncologists, and I'm not suggesting that everybody is a charlatan just trying to make money. But the reality is, you know, we are commonly impacted or affected, somehow influenced by by those sorts of things, knowingly or not. And we've got to remove those conflicts of interest everywhere we can. It's no different than, or similarly, I should say, with regard to advertising on television by the pharmaceutical companies. If your average media person can't speak his or her mind because they are at risk of losing advertising dollars, You know, that's why you never heard any reports, you know, about ill effects of the mRNA vaccines for COVID, because they're taking in, you know, millions and millions and millions of dollars in advertising funds from those pharmaceutical companies. It's a huge conflict.
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You're listening to an encore segment of Rush to Reason with John Rush on KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 13 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory again with us today. There's an entire page, by the way, on our website dedicated to Dr. Kelly, her past, all the things that we have done here on this program. Steve House was instrumental in making this happen over five years ago. I can't believe it's been that long, guys, but time flies. So those of you listening, just go to RushToReason.com. All right. I want to not necessarily switch gears, but... maybe dovetail into what we were talking about a moment ago and I got an email or a text message on this particular topic there was a some news that came out today there's been a new study I've not read the entire study so I've not had a chance to actually delve into this I'll start with you Dr. Kelly but it's linking now fluoride to autism have you read anything along those lines
SPEAKER 04 :
I have over the years read that that has been a theory that's been raised on multiple occasions, and I can't say that it has been disproven. I believe that it is clear there's something environmental that is causing this massive increase that we've seen in autism. It isn't the case of we're just, quote, better at diagnosing it. That's preposterous. There clearly is a massive increase in the actual case numbers. And although I think that it's clearly something environmental, we don't know for certain yet what it is. Fluoride is one of the things that we should be. investigating. I think there's a good likelihood that it's related to the vaccines, but fluoride, again, as well as pesticides, the glycosates that we're spraying on our wheat and things of that sort, these are all things that are potentially contributing to the neuropsychiatric illnesses that we're seeing. Fluoride certainly has been associated with neurocomplications, including a decrease in actually IQ points So, again, this is a theory that's been raised over the years and has not been disproven at this point. Not proven, but not disproven.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. So, and that person that texted, I'm sure, is actually listening to that. And, again, these things, you know, these types of studies will continue to come out. And, Steve, I'll let you comment on that before I ask Dr. Kelly my next question. What are your thoughts on all of that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, so I have some experience. I go to Africa essentially every year. And the areas in eastern Africa, and it may be the case in some other areas in the southern and south in Africa as well, but in those countries, there's so much fluoride in the groundwater that these folks will have the whitest teeth you've ever seen, but the brown spots in their teeth and the brown spots are caused by the fluoride. However, at the same time, in an environment where they don't have a lot of the same sort of setup that we do and access to things, they don't have the same access to toothpaste and fluorides that way. The measured IQ, the measured neurological effect in those countries is definitely detrimental and fluoride appears to be the cause. So that's why Kennedy wants to get rid of it, I think, in one way. So if you have something that's neurodegenerative in terms of IQ, you know, the hard part about autism, and this is something I asked Kelly, is that if it's, vaccine related speech aphasia slash you know autism or asperger's generally speaking as far as i know it happens fairly quickly after someone gets a vaccine does that mean it can't happen because they're consuming too much fluoride i mean i'm not sure it's a question i have in my mind okay
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, no. And I think that those are reasonable questions. Autism, as you know, is a spectrum. It's not a singular disease. And there is absolutely irrefutable evidence that in a large number of people, it happens very, very quickly, as you just suggested, Steve, immediately on the heels of a vaccine. In other words, the moms will say this child was totally normal meeting his or her milestones. And within 48 hours after the vaccine was a profoundly different child, didn't make eye contact, you know, started bizarre behaviors, became nonverbal, whatever it was, that it was something like flipping a switch. There are other kids for whom it appears to be is a smaller number, smaller percentage appears to be. More insidious and onset. And for those kids, maybe it is a buildup of heavy metals or a buildup of fluoride over time. We know that the reason that lead was removed from paint back years and years ago was because in the inner city, in impoverished areas, they were concerned about children eating paint chips. that had fallen off of the windowsills and getting neurodegenerative disease as a result of lead poisoning. So, yes, some of these things happen quickly. I think those are likely related to the vaccine. And some of these others that are more insidious and onset may well be the result of things like fluoride.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, so, John, go ahead, Steve. Good. Today, I heard this and I haven't had a chance to verify this is true, but I heard today that Secretary Kennedy said they will know what causes autism by the end of September of this year. Wow. I haven't verified that, but that's what I heard him say. Wow. Maybe it was not a full story, but I want to research that. But that's what I heard today.
SPEAKER 13 :
Interesting. Kelly, have you heard anything along those lines?
SPEAKER 04 :
I had not heard that. I've been tied up all day. I did not hear that he said that. It would be fascinating to have anyone say that they could definitively prove it in that short a period of time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Charlie just said he read that as well, Steve, so you're not the only one that saw that. He did see that as well. Yeah. Interesting. That would be something. Now, really quick, going back to fluoride. Now, I'm semi-joking, but maybe not. So I grew up in Boulder, as most everybody out there knows, Boulder native. Boulder was one of a few towns even back then when I was a kid that added fluoride to the water. In fact, when I was in my, I don't know, mid-40s, I had a dentist that even said, where did you grow up? And I said, well, Boulder, not far from here at that point in time. And the dentist said, oh, that's why you have such... great teeth and i said well okay whatever thanks i mean i've never had really that many dental issues but i will say this guys i now know why my iq is lower than both of yours well quite frankly sorry no go ahead steve
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm going to say the fact that you got out of Boulder and you're not a liberal tells me your IQ is way higher than mine.
SPEAKER 13 :
Good one. Good one. Good one. Good one. No, and, you know, the response that I even gave this texter that texted in was along those same lines, only on more of a serious note as to, you know, I don't know. I don't know all the ramifications of these things. I think the more that we find that some of these things we thought at one time were maybe good, maybe aren't, and they've got – side effects. And Dr. Kelly and Steve, we've talked about this before as well. You know, it could affect different people different ways. And those are some of the things, again, it's sort of like we've talked about the mRNA, you know, quote unquote vaccine. The reality is, unless you test that across a broad spectrum of people, you don't really have a good answer back as to how it works or not. Am I right, Dr. Kelly?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, that's exactly right. And the studies were woefully insufficient for the mRNA shots. Hopefully everybody knows that by now. They were way too limited in numbers. They were way too limited in the classes of people they studied them in. One of the most egregious breaches was that they did not study the mRNA shots in people who had already had and recovered from COVID, which was a huge number of people. So they had no idea what was going to happen when you gave somebody who had already had COVID a shot. In the same way, you know, think about it. If somebody's had chickenpox or somebody's just had measles, if you just had measles and gotten over it, nobody in their right mind would turn around and say, you know, you should take a vaccine for measles. You just had it. OK, if you just had chickenpox, nobody who wants to keep their medical license would suggest that you get immunized for chickenpox. OK, but so why in the world, if you just had covid, would somebody turn around and say you should get a shot for it? I mean, it defies logic.
SPEAKER 16 :
Great point.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK. And those people were not included in the study. So they had no idea what would happen to those people. And so, you know, as I've said, tragically, from the beginning, most of the people in these, you know, who got vaccinated were part of an ongoing study, whether they were told that or not. The reality is they were part of an experiment. And so we've got to really face that fact and make sure that it never happens again.
SPEAKER 13 :
And to your point, Dr. Kelly and Steve, you can chime in on this. We, those of us that are not vaccinated, became a part of another study group that, frankly, they don't care anything about. But we're the other side of that equation, correct?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we are. But I think they make care about us. They make care that somehow they get a spike protein into us before too long, because then the longer we go, the more definitive it is that the vaccine is causing problems. And I do think that I got to believe in rooms and tell you, correct me if I'm wrong, Fauci sitting in a room with Birx and other people and the Pfizer heads and all these people saying, look. Let's try this. And then when you come back, what happened? Oh, it didn't work. Damn, it didn't work. How are we going to sell more of this vaccine if we don't get it to work? We got to find another application, another way to do a study to show people that natural immunity doesn't work. The only way to prevent it is with this vaccine. And when that doesn't work, then we're going to say, well, it keeps you out of the hospital. Wait a minute. It didn't keep people out of the hospital. We got to keep telling them they need to take it because we're science and they don't know what they're talking about.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep. Yep. Yep. I again, I never can disagree with you two on pretty much anything. And, you know, spot on in this particular case. And I agree with you as well, Steve, that, yes, I didn't. And this is not conspiratorial, I think, because what were Dr. Kelly, what, about 17 to 20 percent? Is it even that high or are we down in the 12 percent range you and Steve?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the numbers are somewhere that about 80% of all Americans took at least one shot. So I think the working numbers are around 20%. It's very difficult, however, to claim for certain that these numbers are correct because early on people had an incentive to lie about being vaccinated. Many people said they were vaccinated when they weren't because they wanted to travel or go to school or work or whatever. And then fast forward, now a lot of people have an incentive to say they weren't vaccinated when they expect they were. That's right. Because a lot of people feel stupid or silly or that they made a non-wise decision. And as you've got to know, the actual records are... you know, abysmal. Nobody kept good records. People were getting injected in the parking lot. That's right. Walmart, you know, or at their doctor's office or maybe at a pharmacy or at a school or at some, you know, vaccine rally, mobile van, whatever it was. Exactly. You know, half of the cards out there are suspects. You know, we don't know which ones are counterfeit and which ones aren't true. These things were handwritten. Most most of these were handwritten on people's cards. Very few were typed in. Handwriting by definition means that it is prone to either misinterpretation or may have been written down improperly or incorrectly, human error being what it is. So, frankly, the answer is we have no real idea. But the best estimates based on surveys is that somewhere in the range of 80 percent of Americans got at least one shot.
SPEAKER 13 :
So, Steve, going back and again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, as you know. In fact, most of what we've talked about, if not all of what we've talked about, has turned out to be true one way, shape, form or another. So when it comes to your statement of, you know, you believe and I'm like you, we both believe that they will try to do something to correct what Dr. Kelly just said a moment ago so that they can have 100 percent, by the way, versus the 80 ish or so percentile that it is right now. How will they do that, Steve?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I mean, you can go back to some of the stuff that was done during MKUltra and some of the other things that are now more public. I mean, I worry a little bit about airborne vaccine-related applications and Bill Gates, what they did with Lyme disease and the other things where they dropped it on people. I mean, Lyme disease, they dropped ticks on guys in Cuba to try to make farmers unproductive, and then they starved the population to get rid of Castro. That stuff is public now. I mean, there's any number of ways they could get a vaccine to us. In fact, vaccinate the meat you eat, vaccinate whatever. Spike proteins don't appear to have an end life. If they end up in a cow or a chicken and you eat it, do we know we're not going to have it in our body? I mean, I don't think we do know. And then, of course, there's the, you know, in surgery, you know, they pop a vaccine in and give you a vaccine. I hope they're not doing that crap, but I don't know, John. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I think there was a bunch of people who had COVID that fell off the end of the earth into that, you know, area where the guys that were going to the moon were supposed to go but never made it. But I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and then, Dr. Kelly, on top of that, and we've talked about this many, many times, you add a lot of what Steve said a moment ago, and then you start throwing in blood transfusions and things along those lines, which, again, I don't think there's any definitive answer out as to, well, we know the blood supply is contaminated, but how does that work when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. We don't know that and we don't know how extensive this issue of shedding is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, you know, the reality is all of these things come into play. I hate to say it, but I do think that there are Steve, to your point that there are people who were injected against their will or certainly without their knowledge, whether it happened because they were not in a position to make the decision. They were either in surgery or unconscious or not capable of giving informed consent, whether they were told they were getting something else or whether it was some do-gooder, quote, unquote, who said this person isn't vaccinated and I'm going to take care of it and make sure that they are while they're getting their knee replaced. you know, under anesthesia, who knows? But all of these things, the blood transfusion, the fact that we have shedding, the fact that we don't know how much is transmitted between, you know, a pregnant mother and her unborn, you know, child in utero, we just don't know these things. And these are all questions what makes me angry. is that these are all questions that should have been answered before the first shot was injected into the public. And the fact that it wasn't was truly one of the greatest failures of our system, of the organizations, the agencies whose job it is to look after the health and well-being of Americans. And not only did they do this, but then they subsequently lied about it for the better part of five years. And it's looking at this point, like Anthony Fauci's going to get off scot-free. He's going to get away with it. And I find that absolutely just unconscionable.
SPEAKER 05 :
Can't argue that. Go ahead, Steve. So, I mean, it's a question for both of you. I mean, there's a part of me that says if I had to go in and I was going to be put under general anesthesia and I was asked in the, you know, pre-op process or even during the, you know, just before surgery process, if I'd had a COVID vaccine. I might say yes. I mean, yeah, I've had nine of them. Good point. Because I don't want them to give me one when I'm asleep. Yeah, good point. I don't know how to even handle that. I don't know how to handle that. I was talking about, you know, from the patient's point of view, what does the patient do in that setting that doesn't want that risk?
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And we are back, Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve Howe. Steve, I want to go back to you on this one because you said that you think, and we may not be able to get all this done in the next, oh, we've got about 12 or so minutes left or so, that you think we should adjust the patient's point of view when it comes to health care. Now, I am... kind of on the side where I know a lot from being with you two as long as we have, although I do not know a fraction of what you do. And I will tell you that right now, currently for me, I have a concierge doctor, Dr. Scott, because frankly, I don't think I could do it any other way, Steve.
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Well, and I think that's going to be a model that you see more and more for those who can afford it. The patient's point of view problem from my point of view is, The question we just asked, you know, do you lie to somebody? Your regular doctor, you know, Dr. Scott might know whether you've been vaccinated or not. Your regular doctor might know where you are. But if you're in a surgical setting or someplace where someone could potentially give you a COVID vaccine if you say you've never had it, assuming you'd never know it, you know or like we saw it i think it was duke or someplace recently where somebody could not have a lung transplant because they weren't vaccinated and the hospital wouldn't allow it if because they weren't covered vaccine that was in the last three or four months with all we know about covid vaccines that's crazy and then on top of that there there are i mean you know the autism stuff you know with bobby kennedy you know people are saying it's not an epidemic when it's one in 36 children today I think that's crazy. As a patient, you have to start thinking about who do I trust? Who can give me advice? I mean, because there's a lot of people. I mean, there are people out there who have said flat out, I will never take the advice of a doctor again because they lied to me during COVID. Well, I think that's too broad of a spectrum, right? I mean, I know doctors, I won't say that. But at the same time, what is a patient to do when they are on chronic disease drugs? We know they need to help fix themselves. But they get put on drugs like statins that really aren't what they need and stuff like that. How does the patient survive the current information, misinformation, misincentivized health care system? And I think it's worthy of having a serious conversation about it.
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Dr. Kelly, for me, and I'm going to throw this to you because you're a doctor, I will tell you that some of what I do and what I've kind of done with, you know, I've had, you know, parents and, you know, other things that I've been involved in, not me personally, health care wise, but with some of them. And for me, I get pretty trusting when I hear some of these doctors say some key things like what we've talked about on this program for, you know, the past five years. But if I get the indication that they are all bought in on all the things that we also talk about in regards to vaccines and some of the things that we're talking about with big drugs and so on, I get really skeptical at that point as to whether I'm being told the truth or not. And I know I'm tainted from being around you two for this long, but I don't know any other way to do it.
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No, I think that's what you have to do. If you have a physician who still, at this point in 2025, is still suggesting boosters, is still promoting the idea that a newborn baby should get a hepatitis B vaccine, who still is pushing annual flu shots, despite the most recent study from the Cleveland Clinic, all of these things, I think that is really a litmus test. about that clinician's critical thinking skills. If they aren't up on it, if they are just repeating over and over again sort of the standard narrative, have not done their own diligence, if they don't understand at this point that ivermectin is not, quote, course-paced, that has multiple applications, not only for COVID, but for cancer, then this is somebody who isn't keeping up with the most current data. I think it is a good sort of test or a good way to sort out who's a reasonable clinician. And on top of all of it, you need a physician, regardless of what he or she believes, is willing to respect your choices. So anytime I hear somebody say my doctor is going to fire me because he's suggesting a COVID shot and I don't want one or he wants me on statins and I said no or the oncologist is recommending chemotherapy and I'm declining, if that doctor is not willing to continue to treat you with your choices, then you should fire that doctor anyway. Because you don't have a doctor, you've got a drug dealer.
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Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. No, and Steve, I can't disagree with Dr. Kelly on that at all.
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No, I can't either. And here's the thing for Kelly and you to think about, too, is that, you know, first of all, I'm not sure who's paying the chemotherapy fee to the doctor. Could be the PBM, could be, you know, the pharmacy company itself. Chemotherapy drugs are really, really expensive and PBMs mark them up dramatically. But here's the question. Let's say you do have cancer. Let's say you do get multiple opinions and that chemotherapy is the best choice. Is the last question you ask what drug are you giving me and why are you giving me that drug? And when they tell you why they like this drug, then you say, is that drug more expensive than an alternative? Because the copay at my copay level is going to kill me, right? I may die from the cancer, but I may also die from the medical bill. Yeah, good point. Which causes people to go bankrupt. So am I allowed to ask my doctor if they're giving me the chemo they are because it's more expensive and they make more money?
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Dr. Kelly, I'll let you chime in on that one.
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Well, it's a legitimate question. Obviously, none of them are going to answer honestly and say, yeah, I gave you the most expensive one. The problem is that they tend to be, I think, impacted or influenced by the goodies that they get from the pharmaceutical reps and what they read about that drug and the fact that it happens to be more expensive. Well, that's because, quote, it's better. I think we've got to remove that incentive in the first place. It is not legitimate to me for oncologists to be able to make money by selling chemotherapy drugs. It's just not right.
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We do have a bill advancing in Colorado. I have not had a chance to read this. This was just sent to me, I believe, yesterday. It's Bill 25-1094 would crack down on business practices of pharmacy benefit managers that lead to higher costs with potential policy changes on the horizon. Now is the time to discuss this, blah, blah, blah. And again, Steve, Dr. Kelly. I'll have to go through and read this or I'll send you guys the bill itself and you guys can do some reading and maybe we can talk about that in the future. I have no idea what they're looking at. And I'm always, Steve, you're on the political side of this as much as anybody. I'm always a little bit leery of, you know, government getting involved because will it make it better or worse?
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Government will generally make it worse. However, this is a subject that needs to get adjudicated. I mean, look, I love, I'm pro-business, I'm pro-hospital, I'm pro a lot of those things. But here's the quandary that you're going to get into these days is that if you, in fact, are self-funded, which means you are a plan sponsor that covers your own employees, you don't use the net or Cigna, they may be your actuary, but you, the company, are paying. If you get your drugs via PVM, And the price they give you on those drugs, if you mark those drugs up to your employees so that you can make a little profit on those drugs and your employees end up paying a copay plus whatever the cost of the drug is different. You know you're saving yourself right because it's not coming out of my left pockets my health plan my right pocket is my employee if i'm moving money from my left pocket to my right pocket and back and forth. who's actually spending the money i'm spending the money as an employer, the problem is. is that it's ERISA and ethics and all these other things. I mean, why would you mark up drugs that you buy as an employer to your own employees? Good point. But there's lawsuits on this. There's the JP Morgan lawsuit and the Wells Fargo lawsuit where employees are filing a class action suit against their employers for doing exactly that, marking up the drugs coming through their plant so they have to pay more than the employer pays. And because it's coming from a PBM, they're getting a Tesla at $3,100 and marking it up and paying rebates back to people. I think that's probably a serious challenge that needs to be looked at and adjudicated. If Colorado wants to address it, let's see what they do.
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And after reading this a little bit while you were talking, Steve, I will tell you that the sponsors of this are, for the most part, on our side. I think that already tells you where the bill is coming from. They want a flat fee based upon not the cost of the drug, but just the cost of doing business, if you would, where you're not going to earn more for a higher-priced drug, less for a lower-priced drug. In other words, Steve, literally doing a lot of what you just said, not – I can't see and hear where it's getting into if you're the employer handling things, but they want to get to a, this bill in Colorado wants a PBM to get to a flat fee period.
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Well, yeah, what you're talking about is a subscription model, PBM. Wall Street Journal highlighted three companies who have it. One of them I know very well. They charge $20 per member per month. They buy the drugs at the lowest possible cost. There's no rebates, no fees. They don't pay anybody anything other than they buy direct. They pay the dispensing fee. The pharmacy and the drug is, oh, Tesla in this case, $597 versus $3,100. Wow. That's what you get for paying a flat subscription fee now. a lot of people in the pharma business are going to fight it because they want the rebates. Kelly Victory is an expert in this category. I learned everything I know about it from her. So she, I'm sure, has an opinion as well.
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Well, and Dr. Kelly, you still having a footprint in Colorado. I sent you guys the bill. You guys can look at it. We can probably talk about this again, maybe even next week if we get a chance to do so, because I'd like to know more about that. My fear, Dr. Kelly, is if this is as good as it sounds like it is, will it even pass through our Democrat legislature here in Colorado?
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Exactly. Or will they just muck it up with a bunch of work and other stuff that'll get into it? And that's always the problem. As Steve said, government will generally never make something better because these bills get laden with all sorts of other things. It becomes the next project. I would like to see PBMs go away entirely. The middlemen always jack the prices up. It always ends up being less efficient and more expensive. In addition to that, we really need to disarticulate health care insurance and health care at all from people's employment. You need to remember that was an offshoot of something after the Second World War when employers, there were wage freezes in place. People were not allowed to increase wages. So in an effort, an altruistic effort to try to get some additional benefits to their employees, employers started providing health care benefits. It was really trying to get some additional money into people's pockets. That's right. It's long past its usefulness, and way more people are tied and stuck. They're shackled to a job that they don't want or unable to move to an area that is less expensive or better for their families because of fear of losing their health insurance. It's a problem, and we need to undo that as well.
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Okay. Again, one of those things that, trust me, folks, we will look at that a little bit further in the near future. Before we go, really quick, Dr. Kelly, somebody asked, you know, could we explain shedding, and it's going to have to be done probably on a later show, but I gave an answer back really quick just a synopsis because of the things that we have talked about. The answer is we don't really know because there hasn't been enough studies, controlled studies, to really know how it works or doesn't. Is that the right answer?
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Yes, it is. And we don't know exactly what's being, quote, shed. Is the spike protein itself that is being manufactured by people who got vaccinated or is it the mRNA? It appears that it's likely the spike protein itself. Now, we know that it gets excreted in breast milk. That has been proven. So it isn't a huge leap to think that it might be also transferred via saliva or semen or other bodily fluids. And that is the theory. But there are people who also say that just being in proximity, close proximity to people who are vaccinated somehow impacts them. You know, they feel the effects. It's hard for me to understand the mechanism by which that would happen. Spike proteins just falling off people's skin. That doesn't seem reasonable to me. So I think transfer of bodily fluids. I could make that leap pretty easily, but anything else is still a bit of a mystery to me. And as you said, John, rightly so, the studies simply haven't been done.
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Okay. I'll leave it at that. Dr. Kelly, thank you as always. I appreciate your time. I learn something every week.
SPEAKER 04 :
Terrific. Thanks for having me. You're very welcome. And again, my apologies for being tardy.
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You're fine. No apology needed. Steve, same. Thank you. I learn from you each week as well. Thanks, John. I think your voice sounds really good, so you better keep it for a while. Thanks, Sam. Appreciate you very much. All right. That is it for Dr. Kelly, Victory, and Steve House. Veteran Windows and Doors is coming up next. 35% off three windows or less. 40% off if you do four or more. Go to klzradio.com.
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Join us as we explore the fascinating dynamics of modern media, where public trust in traditional journalism is being challenged by the rise of alternative media. Alongside guest callers, Mike dissects the shifting landscape, discusses Tesla vandalism cases, and talks about what listeners feel about the burgeoning candidacies leading into the next presidential election.
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Man, I love the text line. In fact, too much so. Sometimes I get distracted because I'm so interested in what people are saying in real time. And I have to admit, I'm a prolific texter. I was thinking about this last night. I'd rather text than talk to anybody, even my kids. Trevor's the same way. One of my sons is the same way. I'm going to be in Minneapolis this week. We're headed off to the MyPillow headquarters on Monday. We're going to have a MyPillow day. We're going to have a big blowout celebration of MyPillow. And we'll stay in format. Don't worry. We're going to cover all the breaking news, all the day's headlines, what to make of it all. We'll be taking calls. We'll be in our normal format, but we're going to be inside the warehouse. Joey Hudson is helping me plan the trip with the MyPillow team, and Joey's like, oh, it's going to be loud in that warehouse. I said, let it be loud. It's okay. We're making pillows. We're making my slippers. 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Here's Detroit, Michigan. Mike, I'm not worried at all. Trump delivered last time, and now he has an enormous mess to clean up. I trust him. Americans are impatient and foolish for being so. I'm not a huge fan of Fox News either, considering how he was treated by them in the past, so I don't lean into much of what is said. I listen and trust Trump. Tampa, Florida, the legacy media always talks down Republican economies and talks up Democrat economies. Louisville, Kentucky writes, Mike, America is in a lot better shape thanks to the Make America Great Again victory of November 2024. If Republicans in Congress don't get off their hands and do something on the tax cuts, they'll have a hard time messaging because they still need more time to message before the midterms. Remember, 75 million voters still went the wrong way. Wake up, Congress. And finally, Dayton, Ohio. I own a piece of land in Fort Myers. I get more calls and offers than ever. Like your last caller said, Americans just have no patience. They think that Turning this giant battleship around that Biden ran into the wall can be quickly and easily pulled out. It's comical. I think the smart people like Kevin O'Leary are correct. I love the quote from a great sports movie. It's like Novocaine. It just takes time. That's what I keep telling myself about this condo that I've got on the market. I'm like, well, Joey keeps telling me, be patient. It takes time. And I'm not a patient person. What do you do when you're not patient? I've got no patience for the Henneman County attorney, Mary Moriarity. If you check this lady out, she's doubling down. There's something about this Tesla story that makes me positively crazed. 33-year-old guy, Minnesota state employee, apparently caught red-handed. I mean, it's all over. You can see pictures of him everywhere. He's scrawling money. you know, and defacing a bunch of Teslas. Committed over $20,000 worth of damage. And because Teslas have cameras on them, the sky isn't so bright, none of the people vandalizing Teslas seem to realize that the cameras are rolling, it's captured, and you're going to get caught. The Trump administration has made it clear that they consider vandalizing these vehicles acts of political violence and domestic terrorism. So they catch this guy who works in Tim Waltz's administration. He's some kind of data processor. And there he is carving, you know, whatever on Teslas, $20,000 of damage. You understand that's a felony, right? Well, not to the woke Soros-installed district attorney of Hennepin County, Mary Moriarity. Mary Moriarity says, we're not going to give him any criminal charges. No, no, no, no. We want to just put him in a diversion program so that he doesn't face any criminal charges. We want him to pay back the owners of the Teslas, but we don't want him to have to go to prison for this. I mean, come on. He's just defacing Teslas. Now, you know what side of the political fence Mary Moriarity is on. you know darn well what she'd be doing with somebody who's a Trump supporter damaging some progressive business, like a Ben and Jerry's or a Starbucks. And yesterday? She doubled down. Here she is, and obviously she's feeling the heat. That's why she must have had to deal with this with the reporters. Here she is explaining why she's not pursuing any criminal charges against the would-be felon domestic terrorist.
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So diversion is accountability. The case was submitted to us by the police. We did not decline it. We looked at the case. What we really wanted was for the victims in that case to get restitution and for this person to be held accountable. We are accomplishing both of those by requiring him to go through a diversion program and to pay restitution to all six victims. What happened to those victims of those Teslas should not have happened. And just like any other property offense, which is one of the lowest level offenses that we have, we seek to hold people accountable in a way that will be consistent with public safety. And diversion is a proven way of doing that.
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Oh, really? Diversion is a proven way of establishing accountability? Now do January Sixers, lady. Now talk about the men that had to lie on mats for months at a time in a freezing, frigid jail cell because of their stupid actions on January 6th. These people are insane. Did you notice what she said? You know, the police presented this to us, and we didn't decline it. Why would you decline it? What do you mean decline it? A crime? A felony? This story makes me crazy. And for Mary Moriarity to brag about the unwillingness of her office to have any accountability whatsoever... Because this is what the left thinks is accountability. A slap on the wrist if you're a leftist hurting a conservative like Elon Musk. And that's all it's about. My friend Joe Piscopo says this all the time about people like Mary Moriarity. It's the cruelty that they have. And there is a cruelty to this. This is a cruel woman who doesn't care about Tesla owners being harassed, intimidated, frightened, victimized by a criminal. Because those people check the box. The guy walking the dog, the 33-year-old, he's a Democrat who hates Elon Musk and Donald Trump, and therefore hates Tesla, and therefore gets away with it. Gosh, this just infuriates me. 1-800-655-MIKE. Give me your reaction to Mary Moriarity, the... the attorney for Hennepin County, Minnesota. What a crap hole that is in terms of the justice system. There's no justice in Hennepin County. Not if you check all the right boxes. Does it make you as angry as it does me? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Join us. We were all trying to feel it. You never fought it. phd weight loss has changed my life and i've got a little secret for you you know big pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly you've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind you don't want to do this you want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition a proven roadmap that has helped over 8 000 clients lose weight and keep it off like me i lost 53 pounds a few years ago and i've kept it off i know what to eat and when i know how to quiet any of the cravings i might get and release that that finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss. Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mike Gallagher.
SPEAKER 14 :
Let's dive right in and talk about Mary Moriarty, the attorney in Minnesota who's refusing to press criminal charges against the left-leaning progressive activist vandal, the police say, the 33-year-old guy from Minneapolis, Dylan Adams, a guy that caused allegedly $20,000 in damage in his rampage right after his boss... Governor Tim Walz publicly cheered Tesla's failing stock. Bob is in Montana. Hey, Bob, welcome aboard. How are you today?
SPEAKER 07 :
Pretty good, Mike. Thanks for taking my call. Of course.
SPEAKER 14 :
Glad you joined us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I just wanted to, I think Mary Moriarty, I think she's missing the point, claiming that this is just a simple, low-level property crime, I think is not accurate. This is, I don't know how this is not considered a hate crime. This is why he did what he did, because of his hate. And I don't know how that gets missed.
SPEAKER 14 :
And the reason your point is so crucial is that we all know that if conservatives were targeting liberal businesses or progressive companies in Minnesota, she'd be all over it. She'd throw the book at them. Absolutely. The problem is, and somebody can prove me wrong, please do, I believe it's because she agrees with the guy. I believe she's got sympathy for the guy. I believe she commiserates with the guy. Oh, yeah, we don't like Elon. He's the monster. Oh, orange man bad. He works for Trump. Yeah, go out and damage a bunch of Teslas for $20,000. We're not going to charge you, which, of course, is going to encourage more of the same. This is what a district attorney knows. She knows full well that all this does is declare open season on people who own property. Look, vandalize people's homes. You got a Trump sign in your yard? Go spray paint the side of the house. It's only property damage. Mary Moriarity knows what political terrorism is. She gets intimidating, harassing, threatening people because of their political views. And because she agrees with the political views of 33-year-old Dylan Adams, who probably will get a promotion in the state of Minnesota. This guy, this state employee, he's going to wind up getting a raise. You wait and see. Because she agrees with him, she refuses to bring charges and then goes in front and faces the media and doubles down and pretends she's doing something that's noble and right and just. Dan is in northern Minnesota. Hi, Dan. Welcome aboard. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, good. I was going to comment on the two mayors from St. Paul, Minneapolis, and the governor. We've got the three-ring circus going on up here. Yeah. I was wondering if the Fed is going to take over this case because it really needs to be taken care of.
SPEAKER 14 :
This is it. This is it. This is what I've been saying all week. Where is Pam Bondi? Look, I can get annoyed and frustrated and aggravated at Mary Moriarity and Tim Walz and all the lunatic leftist activist politicians who turn a blind eye to crime. I can do that till the cows come home. It's up to the adults in the room to take over. And I'm waiting for... Has Pam Bondi been asked about this yet? Is the Justice Department going to get involved? Look, let's be very clear. The Trump administration... was precise in defining this Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism. Sean Hannity's been all over this on Fox News. What's he saying about Minnesota? I haven't had a chance to watch him. And I've been really pleased and impressed with the way Sean has been all over the people who commit violence as a form of discourse. Is he calling out Pam Bondi? Is he calling out President Trump? How can the federal government not get involved in this? Is this 33-year-old Dylan Adams, who allegedly caused tens of thousands of dollars of damage in defacing a bunch of Teslas, is he off the hook completely now? Or can't the feds swoop in and charge him with federal crimes? Hal is back at Bucks County, Pennsylvania. Hey, Hal, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm glad you're talking about this because you're 100% right. What's it going to take? I mean, this woman has given a green light to every lunatic in Minnesota to go out and do whatever they want to a showroom, to an employee, to a car, on the road driving or sitting. How much damage is enough damage before they'll throw the book at somebody?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I can answer that. Hal, I can tell you how much damage. It'll be the minute a conservative damages a liberal's property. That's when she'll get upset. That's when she'll throw the book at people. That's when she'll decide this is a hate crime, it's terrorism, it's domestic violence. That's when she'll do it.
SPEAKER 15 :
But let's face it. Why can't Pam Bondi, if it's terrorism, domestic terrorism, why can't the federal government prosecute this guy?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I'm going to say something, and I want to get your reaction. You're a smart guy, and I've talked to you before. I really am very reluctant to ever pile on with the Trump administration because they get so much incoming. You know, I don't like to do it. But let's be real here. This one is a different story. We've got to call Pam Bondi out here. We've got to ask, where is she? Where is DOJ? Where is this administration? You can't talk a good game and claim that something is domestic terrorism, and then when somebody allegedly commits domestic terrorism, look the other way. They're dropping the ball here. Hal, do you agree?
SPEAKER 15 :
I absolutely agree, but part of what I'm thinking is, They have been bombarded with so many things, just terrorism, just everything. I mean, they need more prosecutors. I don't know what they need. I've seen her on the news. I've watched her over the years, even when she was the attorney general in Florida. I like her a lot. And I just think they've been overwhelmed. And maybe they're on the sideline right now waiting to see what Minnesota is going to do. And if this is what they're going to do, apparently, they're not happy. And we may see, yet, they swoop in and prosecute this guy on a federal level.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, let's hope so. I hope you're right, Hal. That's what I'm hoping for. Because if not, let's be honest with you, this will be a massive failure on the part of the administration. No other way around it. So I've kind of got the same confidence you do. There's just no way. You can't lay this out and say something is... as black and white as domestic terrorism, and then look the other way when Mary Moriarity, this activist progressive, drops the ball. Glad you called. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com, use the promo code MikeG, MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know what they pay Scott Jennings over at CNN, but I'll tell you the truth, it's not enough. This guy is like a Christian going into the Coliseum and facing all the lions. They all yell at him. He sits on a panel every night, typically with that woman, what's her name, Abby Phillips. And all I see are clips, because I don't watch CNN with any regularity. I don't watch MSNBC. I mean, my viewing consists of... Newsmax, Fox News Channel, One American News. I know that'll shock you, but I'm not exactly an MSNBC fan. But Scott Jennings is a conservative that they, well, they allow him to appear. They don't let him speak very much. And yesterday, his debate with a journalist with a capital J, a guy named Jeff Jarvis, And I, you know, looked him up. This guy has just been in the world of journalism forever. He kind of helped, he founded Entertainment Weekly and he's TV Guide and People Magazine and all of these kind of traditional mainstream media outlets. And he's got a big journalism background. And what's happening in the world in 2025 threatens the deep state, it threatens establishment types, and it threatens journalists. Everything is changing. Digital and podcasting, talk radio is flourishing and stronger than ever. Alternative media, which is something we've always been, has never enjoyed such prominence. And the establishment folks are extraordinarily threatened by it. And it was really exemplified in this exchange between Scott Jennings and this Jeff Jarvis guy. Listen to the two of them going back and forth, and listen to how a journalist with a capital J a guy by the name of Jeff Jarvis, describes this sort of new wave of podcasters and social media influencers and people who now are commanding hefty audiences like never before. Check out this back and forth last night on CNN. The problem is that the right wing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hello, Scott, has taken advantage of the situation, I think, quite cleverly, quite wisely. They've played into a weakness situation, the situation of media being under attack. And so they've created a situation where you've almost got it. Keep going.
SPEAKER 05 :
What the right wing is taking advantage of is finally the American people saying enough is enough. They're tired of feeling like the mass media screens out one viewpoint versus another and political coverage. They're tired of media institutions favoring one party over another. They're tired of narratives over factual stories. If I had any advice for 60 minutes or anybody else, it would be. Just cover the news and try to be fair about it and stop putting your finger on the scale, especially during.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's that you're you're you're talking about the old mass media myth that you could have this thing that was in the middle of the Walter Cronkite saying that's the way it is when it wasn't for many Americans, the way it was when people were pissed off. People back in those days trusted the media. No, they just couldn't be heard. Because there was no two-way. Now we have the Internet. Look at the Gallup polling.
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It was here, and now it's here. It's fallen off of a cliff. Yeah, we do have that Gallup polling about trust in media. And now, in recent years, and let's be honest, Scott, a lot of this is driven by the rhetoric on your side of the aisle.
SPEAKER 05 :
You think it's driven by the rhetoric and not the performance?
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
But my point is this. If you're CBS or any other news outlet, The reason that you have lost trust ought to be obvious to you. And the way to fix it also ought to be obvious to you. And it has nothing to do with Donald Trump and everything to do with the product. Just try to make a better product that appeals to more people. And the way you appeal to more people is by not crapping on half or more than half of the country because of their values and political views.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that that is what you'd end up with in that press room then is, and these are my words, the freak show that you had Trump once. Trump tries to devalue media. Why should we value his freak show there? Let's leave it to the freaks. I think calling them freaks. I don't think there's any disagreement on that, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, he called he called these new media sources the freak show. They're not freaks. They have audiences. They have audiences. And there's a reason that they're thriving is because the people are starved for information that they think they can trust. They're not freaks. They're filling a need in this country, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 14 :
What a fascinating exchange. First of all, let's look at the journalism expert mocking the idea of neutral journalism. Walter Cronkite was neutral. You didn't know the political views of Walter Cronkite. He was one of the most respected journalists in the history of television. And there's this guy... sort of mocking and taunting. And you know what he's saying? Pretty clear to understand his viewpoint. He wants the media to be a bunch of left wing activists. That's what he wants. And that's what they've become. And as a result, the public trust in the mainstream media is lower than than a whale's belly at the bottom of the sea. Nobody trusts these guys anymore. And did you hear Abby Phillips? Well, that's driven by your rhetoric, Scott. That's driven by the rhetoric. And as Scott said, he was just incredulous. Our rhetoric, it's not by the performance. It's the actual performance. The first Trump administration was plagued by a false, corrupt narrative that Russia stole the election. For four years, that was driven by the mainstream media. And we could go down the list. And I really believe the tipping point was COVID. When we look at what we were put through over the pandemic, during the pandemic, and what the media did, deplatforming and destroying lives of people who had the temerity to say, wait a minute, I don't think it's a good idea to lock down the world because of a virus that you have a very good chance of surviving. I don't think it's a good idea to fire people if they don't want to get a vaccine. That's wrong. And the media went after you, like the villagers storming Frankenstein's castle with pitchforks and torches. You weren't allowed to do that. To me, the big wake-up call, by the American people came during the pandemic. And we will never go back there again. We're never going to let that happen again. All this stuff now about even the New York Times acknowledging, yeah, it was probably a lab leak from Wuhan. If you said that in the middle of the pandemic, your life got destroyed. You were canceled. You were ruined. You were shamed. And now they're all saying it. Fauci, it turns out, became filthy rich during the pandemic. You're reading about that little guy, that little manipulative expert. Nobody trusts him. Nobody trusts the media. Nobody, we don't. And so now you've got alternative media that has exploded and people like Jeff Jarvis are want to call us freaks. We're the freak show. No, as Scott said, we're not the freak show. We're delivering what people are starved for. We're giving people exactly what they have been yearning for, an ability to be heard, to be seen, an ability. Look at a show like mine. If I've got six callers on hold, five of them agree with me and one disagrees, I take the one that disagrees with me first. I'm constantly scouring the text line. And if you disagree with me, look, I'll push back. I'll try to persuade you, but I'm not going to censor you. I'm not going to keep you off the air. I want to talk to you. I like dissent. I like debate. I like disagreement. That's America. It's what we're supposed to be about as a nation. Instead, the Jeff Jarvis's of the world, the CBS, the NBC, you're supposed to have one view, and that's to the left. You're supposed to have a Democrat Party worldview. And everybody else is a freak. And the tide's turning. Things have changed. Look, I understand that as we approach 100 days, we're going to have the media salivating over, oh, the economy and inflation and tariffs, it's all falling apart. There's a big article yesterday about apparently Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, got into a shouting match with Elon Musk in the hallway of the White House. Okay, big deal. Elon Musk is going to go back to running Tesla. He's going to sort of back off of his high-profile role. Okay. Doge is not going anywhere. The effort to curb the wasteful spending isn't going to be eradicated because one person, Elon Musk, is really more of a movement. It's like Trump. Trump isn't about one person. The left mistakenly makes everything about MAGA and Trumpism all about Trump. It's not Trump, it's the millions and millions of people who believe in his ideology and his worldview. Jesse Waters addressed it last night on Fox News. Trump gave the American people the ability to say, we're not going to be canceled, we're not going to be censored, we're not going to be disrespected any longer thanks to the 45th and 47th president of the United States.
SPEAKER 03 :
The president doesn't talk down to the country. He gained their respect because he punched the snobs in the face and gave the American people license to live their lives without being nagged, censured and disrespected. Democrats thought they could just talk at you and win you over. Trump talks to you and he listens. And even after a shellacking, Democrats don't want to talk to you. They don't.
SPEAKER 14 :
They're not listening. They don't hear us. They don't want to hear us. They don't want to talk to us. I've got people in my life that don't want to talk to me ever again because I voted for Donald Trump. I don't not want to talk to them. But that's their worldview. It's their way or the highway. There's no room for dissent, no room for disagreement or debate. It's only one way. And that's what that guy, that journalist last night on CNN was saying. His point was, The media is, if they cease having a leftist agenda, we're all in trouble. We're all screwed. What a shame. It's too bad. Maybe someday they'll come around and open their eyes. 18 past the hour, we're in the Relief Factor studios back in the upstate of South Carolina for another edition of the Mike Gallagher Show, and I'm so glad you're with us. Tell me what you think about what you just heard between Scott Jennings and Jeff Jarvis. calling the podcast world a bunch of freaks. The Freak Show. 800-655-MIKE. Well, the Freak Show has come to town, pal. And like it or not, you've got to contend with every one of us. 800-655-6453. Call or text. However you get here, I hope you get here and join us for a Thursday.
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13 minutes before the hour, a busy day, and incidentally, are you ready for AOC? I saw a spot last night. She's running. She's going to run for president in 2028. And I'm not going to stick my head in the sand. I'm not going to pretend that a whole lot of people aren't showing up for the AOC Bernie tour. Idaho? Idaho, they packed the arena. And they put together a campaign ad that looks right like, this is right out of the playbook for a campaign campaign. TV spot. And I want to know if you're ready. Look, I like this. I like America getting to choose between, say, a J.D. Vance and an AOC. Do you like that matchup? What do you make of that kind of a showdown? I want to play this commercial for you and you'll see why people online are saying, oh yeah, she's definitely running. And I've said to you for years, don't underestimate her. She was a bartender and decided to run for office and she upended a Democrat establishment politician. And now I guess she's the left's darling and the Democrats are looking to her. And she's being very strategic. Forget her rabid progressivism, her likely socialist or even Marxist leanings. Oh, no, we're unified. Yeah, we're real unified. She wants to be unified with conservatives. Sure she does. I'm going to play this for you, and then I want to open up the phones and see what you think of 20. I know it's too soon to talk about 2028, but why not? Come on. It's Thursday. We've had a good week, a lot of good things happening. So join me and tell me what you think of AOC running for president because it seems absolutely inevitable. First, let me remind you that portions of our show are sponsored by M. Dean Owens CPA. I love the fact that I can tell you. how my CPA can be yours. Dean has been ranked among the nation's top 150 CPA and financial advisors for the last three consecutive years. And that's no surprise to me because I'm working closely with him. I've been working diligently with Dean. He's got some tax planning things for me that are out of this world. And I wish I had met him years ago. Honestly, he's the kind of CPA I've been looking for. And I'm kind of excited because I get to Share Dean with you. Yep, he's in Paducah, Kentucky, but you can use his services and his team from anywhere in America. Don't put this off. Dean specializes in helping you reduce your tax burden and build a financial and tax strategy aligned with your goals and values. And he's one of us. Look, he's a good guy. He's a patriot. He's a veteran. He's a conservative. So if you want a CPA who has views and an ideology that reflects ours... Make that phone call to M. Dean Owens, CPA. Here's the number, 270-554-0720. 270-554-0720. Or you can visit owenscpa.com. Let someone who shares your faith and values help you secure the future you deserve. Be sure to tell them Mike Gallagher sent you. Call 270-554-0720 or visit owencpa.com, owencpa.com. Look, I've got this clip I want to play for you. But first, first things first, I don't want to make Joyce wait. I got an email a week or so ago from Joyce in North Carolina. And Joyce said she's 99 years young. She's going to be 100 on November the 26th. She's a big fan of the show. She listens to me on an iPad. And we've been trying to reach out to her, and Tracy has emailed her, but she hasn't been able to respond. Well, guess what? Here's Joyce from North Carolina. On line one, Joyce, is this you?
SPEAKER 09 :
It is really me.
SPEAKER 14 :
How are you?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm doing good. You know, I told you, my faith and my attitude keeps it going, and it really is true.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, wow. I'm so honored to meet you. I shared with everybody how you wished me a happy birthday. I did. And I was whining and complaining because I turned 65. And you said, well, Mike, I may be your oldest listener. I'm 99. I'm 99. Mm-hmm. That's right. I love that. Well, how are you feeling? How are you doing?
SPEAKER 09 :
Really good. I feel really good. And I've tried a couple times to get through to you, and the line is busy. So I thought, well, I'm going to try again now. And sure enough, there you are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, there you are.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you for saluting you on 99 years.
SPEAKER 14 :
I love that. I mean, you give everybody such inspiration, and it's so lovely to hear your voice, because Tracy was frustrated because she'd been emailing you, and we were trying to reach out to thank you. I mean, you made me feel so much better when you pointed out, look, I'm 99, Mike, stop bellyaching about turning 65.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I didn't say that, but you read that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, those are my words, not yours. You were very kind. So you're in North Carolina, and you've listened to the show for a while?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yes, for several years. I've been trying, and I'm just a big fan of yours. I listen to you, and you speak to Mark Davis.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's just entertainment for me. I don't go out a lot. I get tired. But faith is strong. And when you say, God bless America, at the end of the program, I'm right with you because I remember World War II really well. Sure. It's just wonderful. And I didn't get any emails from...
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I'm sorry. Well, Tracy, maybe Tracy wrote the wrong person. Tracy was probably writing Julie in California. Well, look, you know what I want to do? I want everybody to celebrate your 100th. It's November 26th, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, right, the day before Thanksgiving. Wow. What an amazing... I was born on Thanksgiving in 1925, and, you know, it comes once in a while.
SPEAKER 14 :
It sure does.
SPEAKER 09 :
And what a special celebration.
SPEAKER 14 :
I want to get everybody behind your 100th. We're going to have so much fun, because, Joyce, this means so much to me to get to talk to you and to get your number, because... We've been trying. I mean, you really, you have been so inspiring to us, and you sound great. Do you have, if you don't mind me asking on behalf of the audience, do you have family and friends checking in and interacting with you?
SPEAKER 09 :
I have friends, yes. I have a daughter that lives not too far from me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, good.
SPEAKER 09 :
She's been coming every day for almost nine years.
SPEAKER 06 :
I love that.
SPEAKER 09 :
She sees about me and brings me things I need.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't go out very much because I get tired. Right. I do like her program. Oh, Joyce.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, let me conclude for now by saying this. Do you know what it would mean to me to get to meet you? I hope that you'll be open to having me come see you. I want to come visit you. Is that okay?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yes. That would be wonderful.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'll bring some food. We'll have lunch or something. We'll stop and have a visit in beautiful Tryon, North Carolina. How about that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, that sounds exciting.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wonderful. No, you're not as excited about it as I am. Joyce, God bless you. I love you. I'm so glad to hear your voice. We've got your number now. We'll follow up with you, okay? And you keep listening to me on your iPad, all right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I do. You know, I don't get up early.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. You're up late and you sleep in late. I love that. You're a woman after my own heart.
SPEAKER 09 :
You want to get married?
SPEAKER 14 :
You want to get married, Joyce? I'd love to stay up late and sleep late.
SPEAKER 09 :
I do. I tell anybody, call me. My friends call me between 2 and midnight.
SPEAKER 14 :
I love it. Well, we'll come see you, Joyce, between 2 and midnight. Teresa, let's grab her number there, and let's make sure we follow up with her. Thank you, Joyce. You've made my day. AOC can wait. Wow. That just makes me so happy. And again, I'm in a state of continual gratitude that I get to interact with a wonderful woman like Joyce and with you. Thanks for joining us. We'll do it again tomorrow. Have a great day. Be safe and keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless Joyce from North Carolina and God bless America.
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Well, well, well, a Florida USPS worker. This is probably why none of my packages ever get to my house and why it takes me. It literally takes a month to send a piece of mail from my house to St. Louis. I'm not even kidding you. That's how long it takes. A USPS worker was arrested this month in Melbourne, Florida, because she decided to stop off at a house party during her route and drink a bunch of vodka. And then later in the mail truck, apparently she was caught driving the wrong way in traffic. Dude, that's a probable cause affidavit via Click Orlando. Caitlin Dye, 33, was arrested on April 12th on a charge of DUI. They literally, Melbourne police, they called and said, yeah, there's a USPS truck driving the wrong way down the highway. and the driver is literally just throwing plastic cups out of the vehicle. So the officers responded, and they saw the mail truck driving west on East University Boulevard, and then it made a U-turn to head the other way, and it was swerving in and out of its lane, and then went back into the opposite lane. They pulled over the mail truck, and they said that Di appeared to be confused and disoriented. They did a field sobriety exercise, and of course she did not do well in those. They questioned her, and she said that she was delivering to a home And she was invited inside for a party, and she took some vodka shots before she left, and then she got pulled over. So they asked her why she was swerving in and out of traffic, and she goes, oh, I was tired. I was taking a nap. And she said that she threw the cup out of the vehicle because she was swishing her mouth out with water so she wouldn't smell like alcohol. She was booked in a Brevard County jail. I mean, there you go right there. Woo! boy uh now we got another guy wrestling another gator every dang week in florida you can go wrestle a gator so jacksonville florida uh let's see uh after an easter dinner they had to call a gator trapper a family did in jacksonville because uh there was a giant gator in their yard a woman was getting ready to take her dog out when she noticed a seven foot alligator right by the slide door of her patio And she said she was just finishing up Easter dinner with family and she was she needed to get the alligator off the property. But she had to get some help. And that's when Mike Dragich arrived and shoeless. And he wrestled this gator into a garbage can. And it's actually hysterical looking because it kept popping up and hissing at everybody. It couldn't get out of the can, but it kept popping up to hiss. And nobody got bit. Thankfully, they called Florida Fish and Wildlife and they were able to take the gator. But yeah, you got to be careful. I wouldn't be able to let like my dogs out. Or well, we could probably kill one. Wick is hardcore. Wild raccoon attack. A Florida woman speaks out because she suffered one in her backyard. They're not pets. She said as soon as she opened up her back door, it bit her on the leg. It was like Monty Python screaming and a crazy raccoon. And she couldn't shake him off. And he chased her into a corner. And they had to call, she had to go to the emergency room. Animal control had to respond. Thankfully, the animal tested negative for rabies, but it was very aggressive. They had to relocate it. Man, crazy raccoons biting ladies' legs in Florida. Gold prices have surged over 40% since January 2024, consistently reaching new highs. According to Goldman Sachs research, the upward trend is expected to persist due to strong demand from central banks. It's stuff like this that's made me take action and why I've bought precious metals like gold and silver. I've partnered with a great company that makes it super easy to buy. Easy, transparent, and simple. And that company is Goldco. They're a huge supporter of this show and they're the best at what they do. And right now you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit jam-packed with critical information about buying precious metals. It was a huge help, not just for me, but to all of you if you do this. And for my audience, you could also qualify for up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver. It's a really great deal. So don't miss out. Visit danalikesgold.com to learn more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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I wanted to play this audio, too, from Ketanji Brown Jackson. Because they've been arguing, making the oral arguments before SCOTUS in this Maryland case, right? With parents that don't want their kids to learn about nudie stuff when they're in third grade. Seems right, right? I want you to listen to what she says here in this audio soundbite 18.
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I guess I'm struggling to see how it burdens a parent's religious exercise if the school teaches something that the parent disagrees with. You have a choice. You don't have to send your kid to that school. You can put them in another situation.
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First off, that is such a disingenuous argument, and I can't stand her vocal fry. This is such a disingenuous argument. You're not burdening a parent's religious exercise. That's not what is at issue. What is at issue is whether or not young children should be exposed to sexually explicit age-inappropriate material. If you were to do this in any other setting, that might actually constitute something of an abusive nature. But somehow it's supposed to be sanctified because it's presented in a quote-unquote educational setting. I mean, I would like to know what educational value a second grader can garner from learning about pegging. Don't Google it. Well, Cain, I mean, I need to make the point. Did you just do a Baptist face palm at me? You did.
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I don't know if that's what it looks like.
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But still, am I right? I'm right.
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Yeah, I mean, you are.
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I needed to illustrate that.
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Some truths are hard to hear.
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That's right. Because as jarring as it is to hear, imagine how jarring it is when you're a second grader and you open up a book at school and it features two dudes. Well... You get the idea. Or a girl who's pretending to be a boy. And I don't even want them learning about like regular straight, you know, sex. I don't even want them learning about that when they're that young. That's something for parents to determine. And it needs to be in the context that parents choose. You cannot just ambush little bitty kids with sexually explicit inappropriate material. That has nothing to do with religious exercise. That has nothing to do with whether or not a parent disagrees or agrees with it. It has to do with whether or not you think exposing children to sexually explicit material constitutes as a form of abuse, which I do. I mean, why are strangers so obsessed with showing kids pictures of people having sex? Because all of these books that are being discussed in this Maryland case, every one of them does that. If you were in a supermarket and some stranger was trying to show your kid pictures of people having sex, you would call the cops. So why is it any different without your permission in a school setting? That's the whole point. That's what we're all asking. That's the whole point. I mean, it's an elementary school kids. I'm not exaggerating. These are little kids. Goodness. When I was a little kid, I thought that literally a stork brought children. A giant bird brought children. Yeah. Um, I don't know when I stopped believing that, but I, I just remember when I was younger, that was the story. And that's the kind of age that these kids are. And even older, like I still think even if it's in junior high or high school, because these, these, these books that they're talking about, they're not educational books, they're political expression. It's not a book that talks about the, uh, you know, clinical attributes of this or that. It's, it's a book that it's literally for the purpose of, uh, Really glorifying, not even glorifying. That's not the right word. It's like egregious sexual exploitation. And they're trying to pass it off as being educational to like first and second and third graders. That's it doesn't matter where your politics are. I think that everybody would be like, yeah, that's really inappropriate for kids. It's inappropriate for junior high kids because here's the other issue. Not every educator is the same. And you might have some of this stuff presented to kids in a really inappropriate or inarticulate way. And, I mean, with some of this stuff, I mean, that's just not educational. And that's brainwashing. And it has nothing to do with education. It doesn't matter. Parents have the final say. I think parents have the final say all the way up until their kids are 18. Parents have the final say. So this is not an argument over battling people over material that they may agree or disagree with in a classroom. It is about whether or not you think that sexually explicit material is age appropriate for kids in school, like explicit stuff. One of the books that was in the library down the road from us, I mean, it was a junior high library, showed oral sex graphic. multiple pages and one of the pages it was just that like someone actually drew it shaded it in you know put all this it's one full page showing just that and a 13 year old pulled it off the shelves how is that educational you tell me that's just it's just it's a sexual fetish and they're demanding gratification at the expense of your children's innocence I think that if you're pushing these books on kids, I don't say this as a talking point. I don't say this as a soundbite. I don't say it to be intentionally provocative. I, with a thousand percent of my soul, believe that if you are pushing these this type of material on kids, I think that you might actually be a pedophile. Because only pedophiles do stuff like that. That's how bad the stuff in these books is. It's not even you can't even say it's a sophisticated graphic novel. I mean, there's literally some adult drew pictures of children participating in oral sex and they put it in this book. I am not minors. I'm not kidding you. Again, you're in the supermarket and somebody is like, hey, to your kid wants to show him nudie pictures. You would call the cops. But in school, it's OK. And then because it's school, they're telling you you have no right to object to it. That's insane. That has nothing to do with political disagreement. It had to do with religious disagreement. That is age inappropriate, period. So why are I mean, it is people aren't wrong when they say, OK, groomer, because that's exactly what this is. You're you're desensitizing people to the stuff. At that age. Why don't you go ahead and sit him in front of a television and have him watch porn? Same thing. It's literally the same thing. Why don't you just bring in one of those TVs on the wheels and just show him some porn? I mean, you wouldn't do that in school. Or you wouldn't do that anywhere else. But that's like the level of what they're trying to do in school. It's pornographic. And pornographic is, well, that's like the least you could say about it. Yeah, if you set your kids in the living room and showed them porn, you would be arrested. Your kids would be taken away from you. You would be arrested. But they're wanting to do just that in schools with young kids. That's not a stretch. because I've looked at these books. I can't even, in fact, I had, we had management send us an email saying we cannot show any of these images. And I can't even describe them any more than I have for radio airwaves because I'll get fined. Not kidding. And if we show the images on the digital stream, our videos will get taken down on YouTube because they file... They call it pornographic material. Literally. They call it pornographic material and they will pull your video down if you show images of books that they are putting in kids' libraries. That's how bad this stuff is. So you don't even... I've seen some of it. And that's why... I mean, I was left speechless and disgusted because... And I've listened to these parents, like some of the parents in Maryland. I mean, one of them was a one of their kids. They were it was a mother of a second grader. I was like, what purpose does this serve? You're exploiting our children. It honestly, it's a way to prey on kids. I just I can't even believe we're entertaining this as like serious discussion. It's just it's just crazy. Absolutely crazy. 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All right, first up. Apparently, they're trying to dim the sun over in Britain. Yeah, so this is from, I don't know. I guess you can. I mean, this is, I saw a joke about this the other day and I thought it was, I thought this story, I've ignored it because I thought it was fake and it's not. So they're doing, they say it's for climate change, that they're trying to help the earth for climate change. That's the whole, that's the thing. So they're wanting to dim the sun, dim the sun, And their experiments, it's to fight global warming. And in Britain, they're going to get the go-ahead in weeks. So they're going to screw with the environment to stop humans from screwing with the environment. What? It doesn't make any sense. But that's, you know, it's Britain and they're run by socialists. So I don't know. Think what you will. A single psychedelic dose shows a cognitive boost lasting weeks. What do you mean by like psychedelic? Is that like... Like hippie stuff? Like acid and mushrooms and all that? Listening to me talk about drugs is legit. It's worse than listening to Biden talk about guns. I love it. I have no idea what I'm talking about drugs. I just know, like, you know, I know what some of my family members grow out in the woods in southern Missouri. And I know... I'm joking. Or am I? And I also, you know, I know what, you know, the hippies have done, right? I mean, I watched Dazed and Confused just like everybody else when I was growing up. So they said that long lasting effects suggests psychedelics promote meaningful enduring changes in brain plasticity and they can treat depression, PTSD and Alzheimer's. This isn't actually anything new. I have a really good friend, actually a group of very good friends who are combat veterans who they tried. They were tired of all of the side effects from heavy prescription medication to deal with. after they came back from combat, and they did psychedelics under doctor's guidance, and it just changed their lives. It absolutely changed their lives. China is planning a nuclear power plant on the moon. Unfortunately, all of their stuff is made in China, so they'll never get there. So we have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Can we talk about one other bits and pieces? What did you do? Steve did this. I have to address it now. I feel like Before you, you know, I'm not getting into like entertainment gossip or anything like that. I hate that stuff. But I do think that this is sort of symbolic of the grifter culture. That ginger who came over here and is trying to be Prince of Montecito. What's his face? Hairy ginger. And then his wife, who was on that game show, she had like a D-list role on some Canadian sitcom. And I don't know, was she on like one season? I don't know. Nobody ever watched it. Nobody knew who she was until she started dating Despair, right, from the UK. So that Meghan Markle lady, she... She is doing a cooking show on Netflix and I've never seen... I only watched five seconds of it and I thought she was going to cut her wrist by trying to zest a lemon. This girl has never been in the kitchen in her life. She has no idea how to do basic things. You can look when somebody's chopping up vegetables or if they're doing basic things, you can tell if they've cooked or not. I mean, she was just like with the zester using this. You're supposed... I was dying. I was like, she's going to cut herself watching her put stuff in a hot pot and then having long hair hanging all over the food. It was just so gross. And so audio somebody 21, Steve wants to torture me. She didn't make the times list of, of cool people, but she did get invited there because her agency probably bought her access. I have to play this. This is one of the goofiest things ever. Palate cleanser. Go ahead, Steve, kill us.
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all things to be talking about for Time 100. Let's talk about flower sprinkles. But let's, because I think it speaks to the tiny moments of joy that are so effortless and just create a little bit of magic that we're all craving. What in the hell word salad is this? Tiny little flower petals that are dried. I started putting them on salads. I started putting them on scrambled eggs. It didn't actually matter on a yogurt parfait. I feel like she's selling me a used car of charm that you find people have when they see these tiny little dried petals is something I can't fully wrap my head around. But I appreciate that there is a love.
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This is people who have this sort of elocution are so incredibly fake. So I'm elevating it by putting dried flower petals on all of my food. And just, you know, it just, Cain, it adds a little bit of magic. You know, it elevates things. Okay, let's talk about, I'm going to be mean for a minute, and bear with me. You got that image right, Juan? Mm-hmm. Let's talk about the linen outfit. Sidebar. You're going to, I had to, look, I had to listen to J.B. Pritzker and read an article about J.B. Pritzker. You're going to give me this. Okay. So first up, let me go into total chick mode. All my ladies out there are going to appreciate this. I get it that there's this like beach casual aesthetic that permeates Californian culture. I think when you're showing up to an awards event, linen is a great material. I love linen. It's breathable. It doesn't really matter if it's sprinkled, but you don't and it can be baggy, but not too baggy. Right. These pants, I want to burn them. When you're short-waisted, you don't wear high-waisted pants, and you don't wear grandma's drapes as trousers. It's too long. It's too wide-legged. It emphasizes the wrinkles. It drags the ground to the point where your pants are dirty. please dear heavens if you want to elevate something elevate your influence so that you don't have to buy off the rack and designers will give you their stuff so you don't have to walk out looking like a timu version of kate middleton please dear heavens okay i'm done i got it on my system you were you had no idea what was happening there did you because you're a man rightfully so no You just can't wear big baggy stuff like that. I mean, the jacket was baggy. The shirt was baggy. Everything can't be baggy. Pick one thing. I don't get it. But it's just grifterism.
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She's not on the list. Why was she there?
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Oh, because her agency probably bought her access. Probably Netflix. They're desperate and promoting that boondoggle that they call a cooking show where she makes like somebody got like a chemical burns from her homemade salt scrub. I mean, it's the stupidest stuff ever. People are broke and she's like, let's make candles. Shut up. Let's like be able to afford eggs. Not everybody was lucky and had a daddy that worked in Hollywood that paid for your schooling and paid for you to have access to all of this. And then you consider marrying above your station to be female empowerment while also pretending to be duchess in a country that does not recognize nor give a rat's ass for such titles. Spare me. Good heavens. She's the one who chartered a private plane to fly down in Texas when they had the school shooting and have a camera crew videotape her laying flowers. And then she went back. A stunt. Unbelievable.
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And if I can solve it because of a certain ability, that would be great. And if it doesn't happen, I will say that I think Russia is ready. And a lot of people said Russia wanted to go for the whole thing. And they've — I think we have a deal with Russia. We have to get a deal with Zelenskyy. And I hope that Zelenskyy — I thought it might be easier to deal with Zelenskyy. So far, it's been harder, but that's okay. It's all right. But I think we have a deal. both I hope they do it because I'm looking to save and you know we spend a lot of money but this is about a lot of humanity this is the worst I get the pictures the satellite pictures I've never seen anything like it of the fields after these some of these battles it's horrible that it's going for nothing we would have never had this problem you would have never had that war if I were president I guarantee you that and for four years you didn't have it
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Well, I tell you what, we just had a big technical glitch. Oh, the power went off. It's haunted. Woo. Welcome back to the show or welcome to the show. Top of this first hour. So that's POTUS. And POTUS is talking about the Russia deal and with Ukraine and whether or not they can end this conflict. And of course, there's also we've got some news on the China tariff front as well. So welcome to the program. We're going to dive into it. Dana Lash here with you. Anybody else notice this is apropos of absolutely nothing. But anybody notice that you can't say China anymore without saying it like Trump says it. It's China. You can't say China like a normal person now. You got to say it like the way that Trump does. I've noticed this too. It's funny. So he's talking about the situation with Russia, whether or not they can get Russia to come to the table and make a deal with regards to leaving Ukraine alone. And does that mean that Ukraine is going to have to give up land? That's what they're all figuring out right now. In addition to that, And I wanted to pull this up as well. I'm not quite sure how to interpret this. The headline that there's potentially that potentially the president might be. diverting away from the original strategy as it pertains to China. And I saw this coming from a couple of different places, including Charles Gasparino, who's, you know, he's a pretty well-respected financial guy. He's a big Trump fan. But the discussion is that the admin was looking at a way To mitigate some of that, the hurt that people have been feeling with China and the apparently they're actively discussing tariffs. China has asked for Trump to just cancel all of the tariffs outright. If they if he expects to sit down and have any kind of discussion. In fact, the BBC, their latest headline. And of course, whenever someone from I love it, whenever they say, well, you know, sources within China, it's the CCP. China tells Trump, if you want trade talks, cancel tariffs. They said there's been no serious discussions yet, which which they're trying to undercut claims from the Trump administration by saying that there's no serious discussions yet. This the president was saying that the taxes. that he has so far imposed on Chinese imports would come down substantially, but it's not going to be to zero because right now we've got 145% tariff on Chinese goods versus the 125, the response that China has on American products. And the Commerce Ministry was saying that the U.S. should remove all unilateral tariff measures if they really want to solve the issues. He goes, the person who tied the bell must untie it. Well, you tied it. You did this. This is the difficult spot that we find ourselves in because there are a lot of business. I know I have friends who are business owners. This is the reality of of manufacturing. Everybody wants to do stuff made in the USA, but the US doesn't do everything that people need in order to have their businesses run. That's just the uncomfortable truth. I know a lot of people who go out of their way to try to to resource it, to source it from places like Vietnam or Taiwan, etc., But China has been been able to has been allowed to grow this and do this for so long and establish such control, such a monopoly that it's really difficult. There are a lot of businesses that are reeling from this. And it's usually like smaller. It's smaller businesses almost always. I have a friend, like I said, who has a business and they. Technically, they're all the productions in the U.S., but they have to get inputs from China. And that's the unfortunate truth of it. Nobody wants to do it, but they're not able to actually source that here in the U.S. And believe me, they tried. The closest they came was something like what they needed, but it was three times the cost. Now, for all the people who say, oh, well, don't buy it. Don't have anything made in China. You have to buy U.S. made. None of those people buy it. They won't pay the higher price. That's why China has such control over everything, because people say one thing, but then they don't do it. And I don't blame them because have you seen? I mean, the economy is still trying to claw its way back. They can't afford it. So, you know, there's there's the rub there. So this all we're going to see how this pans out. But that's kind of I don't know. That's it's tricky for the administration. The way it's been described by some of the detractors is that he's looking for an offering. Gasparino said a face saving move. I don't know if we're at the point where he needs to be. And he's not like a Trump critic, really. I mean, he's a big fan of the administration. And he's not the only one saying that. I have a couple of other friends that work in economics that are major Trump fans. They were waffling a little bit on the tariffs just because they did tariffs first without tax cuts. That's their seriously only criticism. But with this, it's kind of... You know, if maybe it's the administration trying to fake out China, could be, you know, we'll have to wait and see. But I don't know how long some of these businesses can wait and see. I know. What do they say? Norway is expected at the White House today to discuss a trade deal. But so far, we don't have enough deals getting made. And we have to have more of them being made. It has to happen and it has to happen soon before midterms kick into gear. And I think that meeting with some of these European countries, Italy and others, especially when we've been trying to chip away at Russia's dominance with regards to supplying energy to our allies over there. It's been so far. I think it's I mean, it's good to meet, but they got to get these deals finalized. Also on deck for today. a couple of other things, as it pertains to the economic agenda. So I am so happy to see this headline. This made my little heart sing. The president apparently has now rejected a proposal floating around amongst congressional Republicans to raise taxes to pay for his, quote, big, beautiful agenda package. The New York Post reports that Republicans So far, we're dangling the possibility of murdering themselves. One of the dumbest things I've ever heard, murdering themselves, the establishing a 40 percent tax rate on people who earn a million dollars a year. Currently, it's 37 percent. I think if Republicans raise taxes, I hope they I hope they fall out of power and are destroyed as a party and that something actually constitutional takes their place. I I mean, I they raise taxes. I'll never vote for another Republican again. Let the country go to hell. I'm done. I'm not kidding. This is so asinine. Of course, I'm a little sour because everything they did to us in Texas just recently. But a 40 percent, so 40 percent of your earnings would go. Now, people who say, oh, well, I don't make a million dollars. You know who does make a million dollars a year? Those small businesses that provide are the engine of the economy and provide most of you your jobs. Oh, yeah, they're going to get smacked. There's such an economic illiteracy. And sadly, it's it's some of the Republicans that are in D.C. are some of the stupidest people I've ever seen. they need to have a math test in addition to a literacy test for some of these lawmakers to get in there. Audio soundbite two. Trump is exactly right here. This is one of the best things he said in his administration. Listen.
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And then secondly, would you support a millionaire tax?
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I think it would be very disruptive because a lot of the millionaires would leave the country. You know, the old days they left states, they go from one state to the other. Now with transportation so quick and so easy, they leave countries. You'll lose a lot of money if you do that. And other countries that have done it have lost a lot of people. They lose their wealthy people. That would be bad because the wealthy people pay the tax, okay?
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He is exactly right. I'm so glad that he slapped these people down that were proposing this. I can't even tell you. I mean, oh my gosh. Because, so, I mean, anybody who runs a small business, you guys know this. Or, even if you don't even have to run a small business, why the hell should you give 40% of your income, no matter what you pay, to the government? For what? For them to spend it on studying why dudes sleep with dudes? Oh, by the way, that's a headline coming up. Yeah, we were paying for that. You guys didn't know that? What? Yeah, we studied gay sex. With dudes. What? Literally not kidding. Or exaggerating. To find out what? I don't know the answer to that question.
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What science did we uncover?
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Yeah, that one I'm not really quite sure of why we did. I mean, that's just like one of the... I mean, that's one of the things... That that we spent. This is how we pull this out. This is Washington Examiner. Oh, my gosh. You're going to get so mad, Kane. I'm sorry. Sorry, everybody out there to do this to you. So during his four years in office with Biden, his administration approved six hundred million dollars in grants and the grants. Their descriptions, quote. Again, I'm not Dora the Explorer, guys. Do not have me entertained. Don't make me screen time entertainment for your babies.
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It's news.
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But it's news. This is literally exactly how it's described. Quote, men who have sex with men, according to the... This is the examiner's review. They exclusively got the grant records. $600 million in grants. We spent $600 million, over a half a billion dollars, studying... men and gay sex i am literally not exaggerating that is what we did and the benefit to society after all that is um i don't know what exactly we're 600 million dollars lighter I don't know. I really don't know. So the fact that POTUS slammed this down, my heart sank. I was so excited because I'm not happy. Now, this also, a couple of things, and I'm going to talk about this coming up at the bottom of the hour. There's more on this because now Mike Johnson was defending paying people to have kids. And it makes me think that these are these rhinos that are proposing these policy ideas to him, because I've never heard Trump talk about stuff like that. And he doesn't really have a great historically because he's been on my show. I've known him for over 10 years and he's been on my show before some of the grifters in his periphery began spilling poison in his ear. And we've known him for a long time. But he actually I mean, we've talked about it before. And he's not a fan of of entitlement. in the welfare scheme. He's not at all. That's why I believe that it's these people that are in his periphery that are pitching this stuff to him just like this. So I'm super excited about that. We're going to talk more about what Mike Johnson was defending here coming up. Also, real quick, Let me roll down this. Oh, the latest with students being targeted at college campuses. Oh, boy. It's ramping up because the temperature is getting warmer. And a Southern California mayor says he wants to purge the homeless by giving them all fentanyl. Yeah. Wait. We got that coming. If you're navigating restrictive gun laws, the Burna gun is a great addition to diversifying your self-defense plan. It's like having another tool in your kit. You know, you carry knives, you carry different calibers. There are times when you cannot carry your firearm and you still need to be ready. It's compact, easy to use, and a deterrence against threats. The Burna gun isn't a replacement. It's an option that you'll be glad to have and backed by 22,000 five-star reviews. It's illegal in all 50 states. You don't need a permit to own one. There's no waiting period, and Burna can ship directly to your door. The Burna Gun is a good choice for diversifying your self-defense array. For those times when you're barred from carrying, you deserve an alternative to protect yourself that's always at the ready. Burna Gun fits that bill. Your safety won't wait, and neither should you. Explore your self-defense options. Act today and visit Burna.com slash Dana. That's B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana to get 10% off your purchase.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, first up. Apparently, they're trying to dim the sun over in Britain. Yeah, so this is from, I don't know. I guess you can. I mean, this is, I saw a joke about this the other day and I thought it was, I thought this story, I've ignored it because I thought it was fake and it's not. So they're doing, they say it's for climate change, that they're trying to help the earth for climate change. That's the whole, that's the thing. So they're wanting to dim the sun, dim the sun, and their experiments to fight global warming. And in Britain, they're going to get the go-ahead in weeks. So, they're going to screw with the environment to stop humans from screwing with the environment? What? It doesn't make any sense. But that's, you know, it's Britain, and they're run by socialists. So, I don't know. Think what you will. A single psychedelic dose shows a cognitive boost lasting weeks. What do you mean by, like, psychedelic? Is that, like... Like hippie stuff? Like acid and mushrooms and all that? Yeah, pretty much. Listening to me talk about drugs is legit. It's worse than listening to Biden talk about guns.
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I have no idea what I'm talking about drugs. I just know like, you know, I know what some of my family members grow out in the woods in southern Missouri. And I know, I'm joking. Or am I? And I also, you know, I know what, you know, the hippies have done, right? I mean, I watched Dazed and Confused just like everybody else when I was growing up. So they said that long lasting effects suggests psychedelics promote meaningful, enduring changes in brain plasticity and they can treat depression, PTSD and Alzheimer's. This isn't actually anything new. I have a really good friend, actually a group of very good friends who are combat veterans who they tried. They were tired of all of the side effects from heavy prescription medication to deal with. with after they came back from combat and they did psychedelics under doctor's guidance and it just changed their lives. It absolutely changed their lives. China is planning a nuclear power plant on the moon. Unfortunately, all of their stuff is made in China, so they'll never get there. So we have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Gold prices have surged over 40% since January 2024, consistently reaching new highs. According to Goldman Sachs research, the upward trend is expected to persist due to strong demand from central banks. It's stuff like this that's made me take action and why I've bought precious metals like gold and silver. I partnered with a great company that makes it super easy to buy. Easy, transparent, and simple. And that company is Goldco. They're a huge supporter of this show, and they're the best at what they do. And right now, you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit jam-packed with critical information about buying precious metals. It was a huge help, not just for me, but to all of you if you do this. And for my audience, you could also qualify for up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver. It's a really great deal. So don't miss out. Visit DanaLikesGold.com to learn more. That's DanaLikesGold.com.
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But look, this is life and death for the House Republican Party, because they have to have a strong economy in 2026 if they're going to have a chance to keep their majority. If we have a bad economy next year, Republicans will not keep the House. So the Senate doesn't feel the same pressure, which is unfortunate. But I think from the standpoint of President Trump, it's very clear that he has to have a Republican House and Senate If he's going to make the last two years of his term successful.
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Get it, Newt. Sing it. Former Speaker. He gets it. He gets it better than any other Republican right now. He does. He does. He came around during the Tea Party days. I told you guys this. We went round and round over New York's 23rd Congressional District. But he was like, you know what? I think there's value with the grassroots here. And I get what they're trying to do. He was the first and only Republican for like a year. I'm not kidding you. That actually sat at the table with us. grassroots because we were out there primary literally everybody you blinked you blinked wrong at the Constitution we're going to primary you it was crazy I don't think we've I don't think I slept there for like two years but when he came to the table and sat down And started talking to everybody. I mean, he really was. I have a lot of respect for him for that. He was very genuine about it. He gets it now. And I'm telling you, he's warning you. He is warning the GOP. You better get it together. I know I kind of sound like a broken record. But I want to keep it in the forefront of your mind. Because I don't want everything that everybody went through for the past eight years to be for nothing. You know, you get called names, people punching the face. If you wear a red hat, you are your integrity is impugned. All these false stories about people, people getting doxxed, all this stuff. I don't want it to have been for nothing and for everybody to have lost it because Republicans just can't get it together on the economy right now. And the reason for that is because you do have some big spending Republicans. You got some Bush League Republicans in there. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this first hour. What do I mean by that? Well, I was very excited when Trump, and I mentioned this last hour, smacked down that stupid millionaire tax that some of the other rhinos were floating. It is rhino. It's absolutely Republican in name only. I mean, that's something that's not up for debate. This is literally Bush League stuff. And so this plan, I'm so glad that he that he that he shut it down uh soured on that millionaire tax and he said no you get people to leave the country and he's absolutely right now i hope that he has the same response to the welfare plan now i saw this last night so it's back in the news and it has to do because mike johnson was talking about it right so mike johnson you know speaker of the house After it was announced that POTUS was mulling over this idea to pay $5,000 to mothers so they would have more babies as a way of combating the declining birth rate, Mike Johnson also went out and talked about this. And if you get my newsletter, you got this this morning. The view had brought it up. Now, let me start with this and then we're going to lead you full circle. The view first brought it up on their program and the view actually said it was absurd. Now, the view would love it if Biden had brought it up. You know this. They would have loved it if Biden had brought this up. They would have loved it. So they said, oh, well, the administration, the idea. Now, again, it's all been speculative. Trump has not said anything about it himself. But I sure as hell can name you five Republicans, including three commenters, one of them a podcaster who has. And I've sidebar. I one of these podcasters, I went on their program and debated this issue and they never aired the episode. That tells you everything. So the view they talked about this and they said, oh, well, it's they're trying to get a new baby boom. And Whoopi Goldberg said that she was insulted because clearly they don't know the cost to raise a child, et cetera. And they said they don't seem concerned about the increase or, you know, all of this stuff. And Mike Johnson was asked about this yesterday after we were off air. By the Hill. And he blasted it. He said, well, it's the view is an absurd program. He said every creative idea that the president in this White House have come up with, they pan immediately no matter what merit it may have. True. But this idea literally has no merit and they're not coming at it. Their criticism isn't coming at it from a conservative perspective. They're coming at it from a tribalist. I hate Trump perspective. That's how they view it. And he added. He added this. He said, quote, We are the Republican Party. We are pro-family. We've always been. OK, let's discuss this. I've heard a lot of people on the right make the same argument. It begs the question that expanding welfare itself is pro-family. That's how you correctly use beg the question. You're not posing the question. You're assuming that the result is true because the premise is also true, and that's not the case here. Now, this all has to do with this $5,000 grant or $5,000 in just cash they want to give that has been floated around to pay women to have babies, right? That's welfare. We have that. It's welfare. And it's similar to what Viktor Orban did in Hungary, which didn't work. I'll get to that in a moment. But it's welfare. If you reduce the tax burden, if you reduce government spending, if you deregulate, you do not have to do this. The bottom 50% of Americans, as I said yesterday, they pay an average of $822. That's from the latest IRS data. Unless you're only returning $5,000 taxpayer dollars to people who paid $5,000 into the system or more, this is wealth redistribution. We blasted this exact same formula under Obama-Biden. If the average 50% and under taxpayer pays $822, where does the $4,178 come from for their child payment? You. Me. That's exactly what it is. Now, these are the arguments that I've heard. Oh, well, relax. They can implement it as a tax credit. Do you know what a tax credit is? Because that's not what a tax credit is. Based on what income? Again, if the average amount that the bottom 50% pays is $822, how do you get a $4,178 credit that same year? That is not how tax credits work. To Mike Johnson's argument, oh, but we're the pro-family party. Again, it begs the question that expanding welfare itself is pro-family. So the only way that you can think that you're the pro-family party by expanding welfare is because you think welfare works. I want you all to take a look around our United States of America. We've done welfare for how many years, Cain? Has it worked? Welfare does the opposite of pro-family. It is the opposite of pro-family. Why? Because welfare makes the American family codependent upon the government instead of independent of it. Big difference. So how is that pro-family? How is it pro-family to make the government part of your family? Why isn't it also pro-family to eliminate or reduce taxes? Why is it not pro-family to deregulate? Why is it not also pro-family to cut government spending? These rhinos want you to assume the burden by surrendering your family's independence to the government so they don't have to cut spending. This defense that I hear, oh, it's a pro-family, it outsources godly stewardship to the state also, while giving the government a total free pass for expanding itself and burdening other families. It's a veneer. It's a veneer that hides the further diminishment of the family unit through dependency upon the state. Well, the other argument I hear, well, we should want people to have more children under any circumstances. regardless of whether or not the parents or mother and father can afford them. That is a cheap sentiment that is betrayed by the callousness of turning children into commodities. It's shameful. It's wealth redistribution. Oh, here's the big argument that I see. Well, Hungary did it and it worked. I've heard people talk about this. When I went on that one podcast or show, they used Hungary as an example. And I'm like, wait a It didn't. And again, if you get the Substack, my newsletter, you got all the receipts on this. Hungary's total fertility rate rose slightly after they implemented and they were paying their people a lot. It rose slightly from 1.23 in 2011 to 1.59 from 21 to 22. These were after the payments for them to have babies, but it started declining again. to 1.36 by 2024. Their original goal was 2.1, talking about the total fertility rate, kids per family. That's far below the 2.1 rate that they wanted, and the decline is still trending. Now, why is this? It's like they didn't bother looking into the reasons why people weren't having kids. The number one cited reason for women, for families in Hungary, was the economy. It was inflation and economic stability. There is a micro trend amongst younger women to stay child free. But then when you break down the reasons why they wanted to stay child free, it also has to do with the economy. So it's the economy in total. That's why. And when you don't do anything about the economy and you just spin, spin, spin, guess what? You exacerbate the problem and you make it worse, which is exactly what Hungary did. Now, some people say, oh, just chill out. Trump is pitching ideas. Well, I actually don't think that he's pitching them. I think that people are pitching them to him like that millionaire tax that he swatted down. So it's only been as reported. So I would be careful with that. However, I thought the purpose of elected leaders, everybody. The purpose of elected leaders proposing ideas was for the voters who elected them to provide feedback to said ideas, right? I mean, that's part of what our republic is and our free society that incorporates democratic processes, yes? So I suppose the people who propose this, they just want everybody to stay silent until after the proposal becomes law. Like at which point is it considered acceptable to actually voice concern about publicly discussed policy? You know, Obamacare was just once a pitched idea, too. I mean, this whole thing, I told you the story about Davy Crockett yesterday. It's not yours to give. So how do you make it more that that comes into play? It's not yours to give. How do you make it more attractive for families to have children? I think for starters, you don't just target mothers with this payment at the expense of dads because it reinforces the progressive argument that fathers are irrelevant and replaceable. Second, you cut taxes. It would even be better to abolish the income tax outright in the IRS, but there's not enough people at balls in D.C. to do that. got to reduce taxes, you got to cut government spending. It is asinine to think that paying women $5,000 to have babies is good for the economy when it's a multi-billion dollar taxpayer drain. And lastly, deregulate. Make us an energy powerhouse, which POTUS has already taken steps in doing. Reduce corporate taxes because it is insane that our corporate tax rate, which also dictates business climate, is higher than that of China's. You've got to make the country a business-friendly place because that's how you actually finish making America great again. We've got a headlines on the way as we move our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends at Tax Network USA. We've it's the month of the government theft organization. Yeah, it's extortion, but it's, you know, it's legal in this case. IRS, biggest collection agency in the world. If you owe back taxes, if you have unfiled returns. Do not, do not wait for them to come to you. You need to reach out, but don't do it alone. Turn to the folks at Tax Network USA. 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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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Go on, Tony.
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Go on.
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What kind of throw was that?
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Was it a throw?
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Is it a toss?
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I think it was an arm fling that had a ball at the end of it.
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Was it a shrug? I mean, I've dropped things with more energy than that. I don't understand what that was. That was the saddest little ad I've ever seen. I mean, if you're going to do it, go all out and do it, right? Don't half bake it. Go all out. That was so sad. That was sad.
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It's like if you went out and did a video all about sports. You're just all about sports.
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No one wants me to commentate on sports.
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It's just so funny to watch him. Look at my athleticism, guys.
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Look at my athleticism. I can barely lift my bingo wings up to fling this picture. Yeah, vote for me. I couldn't vote for a man that throws like a girl. Couldn't do it. There's just something wrong with that. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't know if I could vote for somebody that misses a high five. It's just like that. It's like little things, right? Do you have a list of things that would just stand in your way of actually supporting someone that have nothing to do with policy? I do. Like, if they have bad hygiene, I can't. Like, if you look dirty, I'm not going to vote for you. That's just gross. It's gross. Like, if you can't take care of yourself, you can't take care of anything else. Just, like, little things, you know? Like, if your car's dirty, and the inside, if you have a messy, nasty car, I could never vote for you. It's gross. That's just, like, little... You know what I'm saying? I have weird... little fixations and so when i'm meeting politicians i'm immediately measuring them like do you do any of these weird things like what if you're like for the for the women and even some of the men like if they don't match their foundation properly and they look like they rolled in tang i'm not talking about trump i think trump just has a very he's just he's got like uh uh he's kind of like redhead and he strawberry blonde redhead so he's different but you know what i'm talking about some of the people who come out and you're like clearly you did not seek consultation at the sephora counter i just i don't know it sticks into my head it's the weird things i i don't know how to put it it's the very weird things that stick out all right so coming up this is what we got on deck for you uh people are losing people it there's another tesla that was targeted you know what i was thinking they're mad they're The left thinks that these Tesla protests are OK and they think that targeting Jewish students are OK. But these are the same people that lost their minds. Remember that white teenager from Nashville that just literally smiled at an American Indian protester in D.C. and the entire half the country lost their minds. Make that make sense. How does that work? So we're going to touch on that. We're also going to get into, oh yeah, some of the wasteful money that the Biden administration, I gave you a little hint earlier. We got red state rhinos coming up. Oh, I got more on red state rhinos coming right at you. It's pretty unbelievable. We're going to dive into that. Also, Matt Mowers, who is with the EU-US Forum. Apple and Meta, they're going to be hit by the European Union's digital competition law. We're also going to ask Matt about some of these trade deals and how some of these countries, what their perspectives are as they come to the United States, come to D.C. and sit down at the table to negotiate with POTUS. So we're going to talk with him about that. We have a whole bunch of stuff, too, including some culture stuff. We got pastors gone wild. We got a whole bunch. You don't want to miss it. So we're going to get a dive into all of that here coming up. Oh, and we got a really, really choice. Pete, booty juice soundbite for you. Yeah, you're not going to want to miss that at all. So we're going to dive into all of that here coming up. And also, of course, we have Florida Man. And I'm already looking over. I can already see one Florida Man story. One of them has to do with a wild raccoon. You guys definitely want to hear about that. So stick with us. We've got a lot more in store. Second hour on the way. Of course, our partners that help make this show possible. That's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. This is a great show. Entity. It's a great website. All your medications are covered over at All Family Pharmacy. Everything you want. They got the ivermectin. They got the hydroxychloroquine. They got all of it. 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From the river to the sea. Palestine will be free. Palestine will be free.
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They're at Yale and they're screaming. These Jewish students are attending a lecture and all of these terrorists are outside screaming at them. Yes, they are terrorists because of what they were just yelling. When you are saying from the river to the sea, you're talking about the eradication of Israel. That's what that means. And if people don't know that that's what that means, maybe they should remove head from butt before chanting it. Everybody out there with their picnic blankets in the street. Stop it. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. What gets me is that this is okay to the left, but do you remember that Nick Sandman kid? What'd that kid do when he was in D.C.? You guys remember this? Let me take you back for a minute. You remember that Nick Sandman kid, that teenager? He was on a field trip with his class, and they were in D.C., and there's always protesters in the Capitol, like all the time. You can go to the National Mall Any day of the week, and you will come across a ton of different protesters for a ton of different issues because everybody likes to go there and protest. I can't tell you how many protests I've spoken at and have attended and have covered in the National Mall. Right, Kane? I mean, any day. It's not just, it's not, there's always protests there. And so there were, who did you, you had what, the black Israelite activist group? Right. That were protesting. And then you had this American Indian that was protesting and he has a very interesting background. He's kind of a jack wagon. And these adults were screaming in these teenage kids faces as they were waiting for their little bus to come pick them up and take them back to their hotel after their field trip. And all he did, he was very composed and all he did was smile. And half the country lost their minds. He had the most gracious response of a young man I have ever seen in my life. And half the country lost their minds. So that so that was bad. But this is OK. What you're seeing at Yale. How many of those people that are out there screaming from the river to the sea have even actually been to Israel or Gaza? My guess is not many. The progressive youth can be some of the dumbest people ever. Look at, what is it, that hog farmer that's over at David Hogg that's over at the DNC. They had the chair, by the way, of the DNC reach out and smack him. David Hogg is so out of his league. He actually thinks that you can be in the DNC and then also play favorites in a primary. People who aren't even in politics know that that's not what the DNC or even the RNC does. They don't get involved in primaries because they're there to elect Republicans and Democrats, not diminish Republicans and Democrats. He has no idea what he's doing. It's so far out of his depth. They after Parkland happened. And I read reports that he wasn't even there when the shooting took place. And I know that some of the fathers of some of the victims are very angry because they felt that he leveraged it to sort of advance himself without, you know, and did nothing to help. I mean, just horrible to everybody. But they had that PR firm that Anita Dunn works at that was there the next day coaching their gun control group of activist teens and all of that. That's a fact. I mean, they were there when I did the town hall. They were there backstage at the town hall. I thought it was all weird. But I digress. If you're standing outside of a college campus screaming at Jewish students just because they're just walking to a lecture, what is your damage? Everybody out there with their... their little bullhorns and screaming. That's not the only, I mean, they've been doing it again at Harvard, Yale, others. And I don't know for the life of me why these universities don't find the value in making sure that all of their students feel safe. You have the Harvard president who's upset. They don't like, they want to be able to get our taxpayer dollars and then do whatever they want. Audio soundbite nine, listen.
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What they are indicating is that they want to directly review who we hire on our faculty. That has implications for what kinds of views can be expressed on campus.
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Wow, you know what's so crazy?
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They also want to be able to tell us who we need to fire. And they also want to intervene in our admissions processes.
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Wow. You know what's crazy about the implication of that is when you take taxpayer dollars, yes, we can tell you that. If you take my money, I absolutely am going to get in your face and I'm going to tell you how to live your life. I exert control over where my dollars go. Oh, you better well believe it. I have every right to march up in there and demand to see the investment of my stolen dollars to your glorified welfare grifting backsides. Absolutely. You got a $53 billion endowment. I think all Harvard's federal funding should be stripped. I think federal funding to all of these universities should be stripped. The biggest problem was when you had the government that got involved in loans and making the loans. Of course, they did that back in what was it, 2010? Yeah. All these damn Democrats, they all voted for it unanimously. They wanted the federal government to be in charge of handing out student loans. That's what they did. They coalesced everything at federal control. And guess what? Prices exploded. Well, yeah. You got a guaranteed stream of income. You're going to ask for whatever you want. What does cause and effect mean? How does cause and effect work? I don't know. It's just mind boggling. So yeah, when our federal dollars go there, we have every right to demand, okay, what is this being spent on? Who are you hiring? Of course it is. Now, like I said, I think all of them should be. The places where these protests are the worst have the biggest endowments, Cain. 53 billion for Harvard. What is it like? Almost that for Yale. Columbia. I was looking at, I mean, billions of dollars in endowments. Why do they need taxpayer dollars? If you don't take taxpayer money, do what you want. You know, you can be as you can be as not to fight as you want to be. I mean, you know, within reason. If you if you want to be a big, giant, flaming Nazi with your private money, you can go ahead and you can fly that freak flag and we'll all avoid you. But if you're demanding to take our dollars, then we're going to be all up in your business telling you to stop being a scum of the earth Nazi. How about that? And yes, that's what I mean. All of these people out there screaming that that's what they're they were screaming for genocide. That's what that chant is. It's a chant for genocide. So, yeah, they're terrorists. There's no delineation here. You had the majority of people in this area that voted for Hamas. Yeah, you are who you vote for. You're damn right. If you have a problem with that, then maybe stop voting for terrorists. Super simple. Now, can I tell you about this situation with J.B. Pritzker? This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. He actually he wants to run for president. He thinks that he can. He needs to have a glow up before he does that. He announced that the state is going to take punitive actions, get this, the state of Illinois is going to take punitive actions against El Salvador for holding one of their own El Salvadoran citizens in their custody. What? His statement? Quote, The United States Constitution guarantees due process. We are witnessing Donald Trump erode our fundamental constitutional rights in real time, and we have to restore the balance of power. We're going to do everything we can to stop the Trump administration from ripping apart our most basic rights. What do you mean, like being able to have national sovereignty? So now we have a Democrat governor. Is this a Hatch Act violation? We have a Democrat governor that wants to interfere in foreign countries' affairs. and lobby on the behalf of incarcerated, confirmed, known, indisputable woman-beating gangbangers. Are you serious? Hey, Kane, you got family in Illinois. Is Illinois all better now? So he doesn't have anything else to do, J.B. Pritzker?
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Illinois hasn't been all better for quite a long time.
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Well, I mean, it must be if he's going to try to now interfere. He thinks he's governor of El Salvador, too.
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And the crazy thing is they have the highest, like one of the highest sales tax of any state in the union. It's unbelievable.
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Oh, they absolutely do. But how is this not... Where's the criticism from... I mean, this is... You can't have a governor go down and try to intervene in another country's affairs. You just... That's not... You can't do that. I mean, he is, but you can't. You're not supposed to do that. Trump administration pushed back. They said that it's El Salvador that's their right. They have the... They have the ability to do that. So Pritzker has asked the Illinois State Board of Investment and the retirement system, teachers retirement system to review any investment in companies controlled by El Salvador. OK, get back to us on that. He is a South Park skit. He is a walking South Park skit.
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Here's the problem, though. It's not even beneficial for companies to go to Illinois and do business. It's not financially a positive thing for businesses. Already, Illinois is anti-business. So what are they going to do? Reject more businesses?
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Yeah.
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Good job.
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Yeah, good job with that, guys. Yeah, go ahead and go do that. Good job. I agree with you. He's trying to make, this is his sloppy, fatty way of trying to barge into global affairs and put his name on a national level. That's what he's trying to do because he wants to run in 2028. Okay, can you imagine this primary? You're going to have Newsom. You're going to have Klobuchar. You're going to have Big Gretch. Maybe not Klobuchar. You're going to have Newsom. Josh Shapiro, Big Gretch, Big J.B. Pritzker, maybe Andy Beshear, Wes Moore. Those are all the people that are going to be running in the primary for Democrats coming up in 2028. They're going to need two podiums for J.B. Pritzker. Dana, you shouldn't make. I'm doing it anyway. Get over it. This guy has come at good people. He's come after good people, pro-life people. The guy's gone after nuns for crying out loud. Like, no, I'm not going to. I'm not going to stop. And now you're trying to position himself as an instigator in another country's affairs. That's just... Didn't they try to go at Trump over that? Just saying. Just saying. So that's his way, I guess, of elevating his name. There's more on that Florida man story we had yesterday where we talked about this guy that tackled this girl because he thought she was egging his house. Well, more information now. My whole point was, if my whole point first off was, yeah, you know, if you're a kid and you're caught egging somebody's house, can I tell you a story? When I was a, I shouldn't tell this. My mom already knows it. So when I was a little kid, we lived in Festus, Missouri. And it was me and my mom. And I got into a fight with a neighbor kid. And I thought, I mean, he was a nice kid, but I thought he was kind of soft. A little light and loafer, but nice kid. And he ran back to his house. And our house was up. We lived on a hill. And all of the houses were like, you know, on a gradient on a hill. And so we had a retaining wall that separated our backyard. And you would go over the retaining wall. It's kind of dangerous. And you would drop down like, you know, five feet or whatever into their driveway. And then that was their house. And he went over and dropped down. We got mad and I yelled at him and he went and told his mom. And his mom looked at me through the kitchen window because I could see her from my backyard. She was watching dishes. And I don't know what I don't know what got into me. I was you know, I I deserve what happened. I flicked her off. Right. I'm going to tell you something. I. You know how you think that animals in the wild don't move as fast as they do and then you got a rhino charging you, right? You've seen all those Nat Geo things and everybody's always shocked about how fast that rhino can go. I never thought a mother could move that fast in my life. This woman, I mean, I blinked and she wasn't at the sink anymore. It was like a horror film. She popped up. I had no idea where she went. I literally looked around. She popped up over that wall. She had a flip-flop in one hand and she was coming to beat me to death. I deserved it. I started screaming like I was getting burnt. My mom comes outside and my mom, you know, I was like, my mom's going to defend me. And then the neighbor told my mom what I did. And then I have both of them mad at me. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, it's like a horror film times two. It's like Annabelle. But there's two Annabelle's. It's terrifying. Oh, I got beat. Oh, I got if you think that flip flops don't hurt. I am here to testify that, yes, they do. If a mom wields them. Oh, my gosh. I deserved it. So I'm like, well, if she was egging somebody's house, then, yeah, I probably would have gone out there. And, you know, if she's on my property, I don't know if I would have tackled her. But what gets me is that there was a witness there that was recording it. And I'm like, if I also if I was a saw a grown man tackling a girl. Yeah, I don't. probably shot him to save the girl i wouldn't know what was happening uh goodness you know i mean you want to go protect the kid i said probably not definitely uh variables but so it turns out the reason she was on his porch cane is she was selling candy oh there it is oh this dude's gonna get dragged and if you can't tell the difference there's another video that appeared that was released last night and she had a candy bag you didn't see it in the original video Mm-hmm.
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Can you imagine how this girl feels now about every time she does maybe in the Girl Scouts or something for church?
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Yeah.
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She's going to be a little lucky.
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And I get it that he had a new baby at home and that his house has been targeted. I get that. But dude, come on. We got a lot more on the way as we roll towards the bottom of this hour. We got headlines coming up. I've said for years now that our media is just garbage. Legacy Press is garbage. How does the average person know if a news story, if the source is accurate or if it's biased? Ground News can be a great solution for that. Ground News can show you the stories and the sources of the day and then they give you details about their sourcing. how reliable the reporting is and who owns them and keep you fully informed on any potential political or motivational leanings. So, for instance, you could use Ground News to read about the Trump administration suing the state of Maine over participation of transgender athletes in girls sports. The Huffington Post said, quote, Trump's newest political power grab is targeting Maine. The Toronto Sun said, quote, DOJ is to sue Maine over trans women competing in female sports. So same story, but two very different headlines. Is it a power grab by the president or is it in the hands of the DOJ? You can sign up for your Ground News account today and get access to the mobile app. the website, the browser extension, and exclusive newsletter so you can stay informed on the news and the bias. Visit groundnews.com slash Dana today to get 40% off the Ground News Vantage plan and get access to all of their news analysis and features. That's groundnews.com slash Dana for 40% off the Ground News Vantage plan for a limited time only. Groundnews.com slash Dana for 40% off.
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And not only that, there was actually a discount or you didn't have to pay a deposit on the fee. This is like how it works. I couldn't believe it. So we didn't know anything about the racial identity of the kids until they started to look.
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mixed race which they are um and like contending with like the hair thing is already like a thing and like lots of advice especially from like black parents i listened to this whole interview and he actually messed up and said that there was a discount for adopting black kids and then he kind of caught himself and was like well i meant you know like there's no deposit oh my gosh And then he went on about, like, fixing hair and that. That's just a weird... That's a... What a... That is so weird. You know he wants to run. I forgot to include him when I was listing the names of Democrats that want to run in 2028. He's one of them. Why? I don't know. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Why? Why would he be? Nobody knows. It's crazy. So... It's just a total normal way of talking about starting a family, I guess. Yes, well, you know, we didn't have to put a deposit down on these black kids that we got. So I'm really... The way that he talked about it, and I listened to the whole thing, and I feel like he recognized how callous it kind of sounded while he was discussing it, and then he was like, I need to shift this into sounding a little bit more like a human. But the way that he made them sound like commodities, like kids are commodities. I don't know. He's just not a good candidate. He's not. He wasn't a good mayor. And he wasn't even a good secretary of transportation. He was horrible. He wasn't even there half the time. Oh, my gosh. We're at the bottom of the second hour. I've got some odds and ends to get to as well. And we're also going to we got to talk about this red state rhino hunting thing. Actually, let's do this first. Because it has been a hot mess. A hot mess in Texas. So yesterday we told you about the moves... in the Texas legislature to raise all of our taxes, right? Well, apparently now they've got a bill. It's moving in the Senate. Less than 24 hours notice for the hearing that happened today. And it was in the Senate Business and Commerce Committee. And it's basically like a Chinese social credit scoring system that's in Texas. It's Senate Bill 1460. Donna Campbell wants to have the Texas Ethics Commission And this is Texas scorecard. The she wants to allow Texas the Texas Ethics Commission. She wants to give them the unilateral power to put us on an ethics violation registry. So it targets like doctors and lawyers and realtors and carpenters and plumbers and anybody who requires a license to work. You could have your entire livelihood put under risk under Senate Bill 1460. Now, for what? Well, for instance, one of the cases that was brought up before the Senate was a case of a 71 year old woman and an 82 year old man. The Texas Ethics Commission was going after them because they had handmade yard signs on their lawns and it didn't include the required disclaimer. What they were doing is not even political activity that you can regulate under the law. But the Texas Ethics Commission decided, no, we're going to accuse you because you didn't put a disclaimer on your handmade signs. We're going to accuse you of breaking the law. And the fines can be, it's up to their discretion. It's pretty much unlimited. This woman, you know, she's an elderly woman. She's on a budget. So she had made her signs herself She was hit with a default judgment because she didn't have a car to apparently drive her to her hearing in Austin and If you try to appeal I mean, they'll lawfare you. They will lawfare you. So if Senate Bill 1460 passes, and again, Texas Scorecard had a real good write-up of this. You also had Tony McDonald with Tarrant County GOP. They you could be dragged in front of the. I mean, I am. This is wild. This is like and this is if you require a license to work, period, you're going to be targeted with us. Be careful about your political expressions. Be careful about, you know, I this is this is a heinous idea. This is some of the stuff that they're doing in Austin. This is some of the stuff they're doing down there. I have no idea why she thinks that this is something that's needed. I don't I don't get it. She's from New Braunfels, Texas. So that's a little south of where we are. I this is just a touch of what some of these people, these rhinos are trying to push in Texas's state capital. Like, for instance, over at and Michael Sullivan noted this and he's over at Texas Scorecard. The you have Burroughs who Justin Burroughs, who is speaker of the Texas House. He's getting a lot of justified criticism. They're pulling in. They got they pulled some pro-life legislation from the hearing schedule for some reason. And that caused the Planned Parenthood of Texas to go out and say, oh, that's great. HB 2197 has been pulled. They're not going to hear it. That's great. I have no idea why a pro-life legislation was pulled. I don't know. But par for the course. I think we're going to start keeping a ledger of names of all the people that we talk about for these problems with red state rhino hunting. The other thing too is in Florida, you had, what's his name? Alex Andrade. He's the guy who got fired from being the attorney for the city of Milton. And he was pictured with a black eye after he reportedly got into a bar fight. He is a really short tempered dude. I mean, he doesn't have a lot of, doesn't have a lot of, apparently smarts or patients. He was on a little internet show where he was talking and he had, he was, it sounded like he was making fun of people with autism. And he was going after, and Drady's mad because a lot of, I guess a lot of the stuff that he proposed, a lot of big spending has been, you know, rejected by the governor or other conservative, actual conservative lawmakers in the Republican legislature there in Florida. And he was joking because it came up that, oh, well, somebody said that Ron DeSantis must have Asperger's. And it was like a joke. And he was like, well, you know, that's what I've heard. And then he's been all day on social media defending it. If you're mocking Trump, This stuff, if you think it's funny to weaponize Asperger's, to weaponize autism and speculate about people and make a joke of it and use it against people because you're mad that they are more conservative and successful than you are, you have a soul deficiency. That is it's heinous. I'm not playing the video. It's out there. I was floored when I saw that. Just so you know, he's the guy who threatened to fight my husband and all this other stuff. I can't believe this guy. People voted for him. He is like he sounds like a really vengeful, dangerous dude. Right. It's just like he's like he gives me the heebie jeebies. He really does. He's like one of those people. If I was at a bar and Alex Andrade was at a bar, I would cover my drink. Actually, I wouldn't be at a bar where he was, but I really would cover my drink if I was near him. I'm not kidding. He gives me that kind of vibe. He freaks me out. Anyway. So, moving on. Can we talk about one other bits and pieces? What did you do? Steve did this. I have to address it now. I feel like... Before you, you know, I'm not getting into like entertainment gossip or anything like that. I hate that stuff. But I do think that this is sort of symbolic of the grifter culture. That ginger who came over here and is trying to be Prince of Montecito. What's his face? Hairy ginger. And then his wife, who was on that game show, she had like a D-list role on some Canadian sitcom. And I don't know, was she on like one season? I don't know. Nobody ever watched it. Nobody knew who she was until she started dating Despair, right, from the UK. So that Meghan Markle lady, she... She is doing a cooking show on Netflix and I've never seen... I only watched five seconds of it and I thought she was going to cut her wrist by trying to zest a lemon. This girl has never been in the kitchen in her life. She has no idea how to do basic things. You can look when somebody's chopping up vegetables or if they're doing basic things, you can tell if they've cooked or not. I mean, she was just like with the zester using this. You're supposed... I was dying. I was like, she's going to cut herself. Watching her put stuff in a hot pot and then having long hair hanging all over the food. It was just so gross. And so Audio Somebody 21, Steve wants to torture me. She didn't make the Times list of cool people, but she did get invited there because her agency probably bought her access. I have to play this. This is one of the goofiest things ever. Palate cleanser. Go ahead, Steve. Kill us.
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all things to be talking about for Time 100. Let's talk about flower sprinkles. But let's, because I think it speaks to the tiny moments of joy that are so effortless and just create a little bit of magic that we're all craving. What in the hell word salad is this? There's many little flower petals that are dried. I started putting them on salads. I started putting them on scrambled eggs. It didn't actually matter. On a yogurt parfait. I feel like she's selling me a used car. The level of charm that you find people have when they see these tiny little dried petals is something I can't fully wrap my head around, but I appreciate that there is a love for.
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People who have this sort of elocution are so incredibly fake. So I'm elevating it by putting dried flower petals on all of my food. And just, you know, it just came. It adds a little bit of magic. You know, it elevates things. Okay, let's talk about... I'm going to be mean for a minute, and bear with me. You got that image, right, Juan? Mm-hmm. Let's talk about the linen outfit. Sidebar. You're going to... I had to... Look, I had to listen to J.B. Pritzker and read an article about J.B. Pritzker. You're going to give me this. Okay. So first up, let me go into total chick mode. All my ladies out there are going to appreciate this. I get it that there's this like beach casual aesthetic that permeates Californian culture. I think when you're showing up to an awards event, linen is a great material. I love linen. It's breathable. It doesn't really matter if it's sprinkled, but you don't and it can be baggy, but not too baggy. Right. These pants, I want to burn them. When you're short-waisted, you don't wear high-waisted pants, and you don't wear grandma's drapes as trousers. It's too long. It's too wide-legged. It emphasizes the wrinkles. It drags the ground to the point where your pants are dirty. please dear heavens if you want to elevate something elevate your influence so that you don't have to buy off the rack and designers will give you their stuff so you don't have to walk out looking like a timu version of kate middleton please dear heavens okay i'm done i got it out of my system you were you had no idea what was happening there did you because you're a man rightfully so nope You just can't wear big baggy stuff like that. I mean, the jacket was baggy. The shirt was baggy. Everything can't be baggy. Pick one thing. I don't get it. But it's just grifterism.
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She's not on the list. Why was she there?
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Oh, because her agency probably bought her access. Probably Netflix. They're desperate and promoting that boondoggle that they call a cooking show where she makes like somebody got like a chemical burns from her homemade salt scrub. I mean, it's the stupidest stuff ever. People are broke and she's like, let's make candles. Shut up. Let's like be able to afford eggs. Not everybody was lucky and had a daddy that worked in Hollywood that paid for your schooling and paid for you to have access to all of this. And then you consider marrying above your station to be female empowerment while also pretending to be duchess in a country that does not recognize nor give a rat's ass for such titles. Spare me. Good heavens. She's the one who chartered a private plane to fly down in Texas when they had the school shooting and have a camera crew videotape her laying flowers. And then she went back. A stunt. Unbelievable. All right. So we have more to come. I don't like her. We have Florida Man on the way. And then Matt Mowers is going to be joining us later on. And then Steve also has graced us with some Dylan Mulvaney audio. Dylan Mulvaney, that dude, that twink, he wants to leave the U.S. Okay, bye. Go on now. Gold prices have surged over 40% since January 2024, consistently reaching new highs. According to Goldman Sachs research, the upward trend is expected to persist due to strong demand from central banks. It's stuff like this that's made me take action and why I've bought precious metals like gold and silver. I've partnered with a great company that makes it super easy to buy. Easy, transparent, and simple. And that company is Goldco. They're a huge supporter of this show, and they're the best at what they do. And right now, you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit jam-packed with critical information about buying precious metals. It was a huge help, not just for me, but to all of you if you do this. And for my audience, you could also qualify for up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver. It's a really great deal, so don't miss out. Visit danalikesgold.com to learn more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
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It's time for Florida Man.
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Well, well, well, a Florida USPS worker. This is probably why none of my packages ever get to my house and why it takes me. It literally takes a month to send a piece of mail from my house to St. Louis. I'm not even kidding you. That's how long it takes. A USPS worker was arrested this month in Melbourne, Florida, because she decided to stop off at a house party during her route and drink a bunch of vodka. And then later in the mail truck, apparently she was caught driving the wrong way in traffic. Dude, that's a probable cause affidavit via Click Orlando. Caitlin Dye, 33, was arrested on April 12th on a charge of DUI. They literally, Melbourne police, they called and said, yeah, there's a USPS truck driving the wrong way down the highway. And the driver is literally just throwing plastic cups out of the vehicle. So the officers responded and they saw the mail truck driving west on East University Boulevard. And then it made a U-turn to head the other way and it was swerving in and out of its lane and then went back into the opposite lane. They pulled over the mail truck, and they said that Di appeared to be confused and disoriented. They did a field sobriety exercise, and of course she did not do well in those. They questioned her, and she said that she was delivering to a home, and she was invited inside for a party, and she took some vodka shots before she left, and then she got pulled over. So they asked her why she was swerving in and out of traffic, and she goes, oh, I was tired. I was taking a nap. And she said that she threw the cup out of the vehicle because she was swishing her mouth out with water so she wouldn't smell like alcohol. She was booked in a Brevard County jail. I mean, there you go right there. Woo boy. Now we got another guy wrestling another gator every dang week in Florida. You can go wrestle a gator. So Jacksonville, Florida. Let's see. During Easter dinner, they had to call a gator trapper. A family did in Jacksonville because there was a giant gator in their yard. A woman was getting ready to take her dog out when she noticed a seven-foot alligator right by the slide door of her patio. And she said she was just finishing up Easter dinner with family and she was she needed to get the alligator off the property. But she had to get some help. And that's when Mike Dragich arrived and shoeless. And he wrestled this gator into a garbage can. And it's actually hysterical looking because it kept popping up and hissing at everybody. It couldn't get out of the can, but it kept popping up to hiss. And nobody got bit. Thankfully, they called Florida Fish and Wildlife and they were able to take the gator. But yeah, you got to be careful. I wouldn't be able to let like my dogs out or well, we could probably kill one. Wick is hardcore. Wild raccoon attack. A Florida woman speaks out because she suffered one in her backyard. They're not pets. She said as soon as she opened up her back door, it bit her on the leg. It was like Monty Python screaming and a crazy raccoon. And she couldn't shake him off. And he chased her into a corner. And they had to call. She had to go to the emergency room. Animal control had to respond. Thankfully, the animal tested negative for rabies. But it was very aggressive. They had to relocate it. Man, crazy raccoons biting ladies' legs in Florida. Stick with us, third hour on the way. Of course, our partners that help make this show possible. That's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. This is a great... entity it's a great website any of your all your medications are covered over at all family pharmacy everything you want they got the ivermectin they got the hydroxychloroquine they got all of it all the stuff that remember when the system was trying to keep it from you therapeutics when they actually i took ivermectin and i'm telling you it helped me when i had covid I didn't get a vaccine. I got the natural thing. And it really helped me. And of course, the system was trying to shut everybody's access down to that. And it makes you wonder, well, what else are they trying to prevent you from getting to? That's a whole other topic. Anyway, you don't have to play by the system's rules. All family pharmacy doesn't either. It's simple, fast and affordable. They can get you your stuff right to your front door in two to four days overnight in a pinch if you need it. They have maintenance medications, no fast shipping, no hassle, no gatekeepers. And everything is made in the USA. You don't have to worry about where your stuff is manufactured. You don't have to worry about quality and safety because it comes from the United States. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and get 10% off using promo code Dana10. Be prepared. Protect yourself and your family today. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10 to save 10%.
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Troops fighting in the unit that many of you will lead are capable, truly physically capable of doing what is necessary under fire. They need to be fit, not fat. Yeah. Sharp, not shabby. Yeah. Especially our leaders. Yeah. And that's why we're reviewing how the department has maintained standards in the past. Get it. Especially the last four years. Get it. And whether those standards have dropped.
SPEAKER 13 :
Formally or informally. Get it, SecDef Hegseth. You have to practice saying it that fast. Try saying it that fast. You can't. You got to go real slow and build up to it, SecDef Hegseth. See, I just messed up. Look at that. SecDef Hegseth. You know who that was. Fit, not fat. You know people were just, you know the woke scolds were going, they were all sad that he said that, but thank heavens. Right? I want tough, fit, gonna go out there and crack some knuckles type folks i'm on military so they're there what they're there to do unleash their full potential that's all we're saying welcome back to the program top of this third hour it's been a fast day top of this third hour and uh we are uh here at the The Dana Show. Matt Maurer is going to be joining us here in a little bit. I wanted to play this audio, too, from Ketanji Brown Jackson. Because they've been arguing, making their oral arguments before SCOTUS in this Maryland case, right? With parents that don't want their kids to learn about nudie stuff when they're in third grade. Seems right, right? I want you to listen to what she says here in this audio soundbite 18.
SPEAKER 01 :
And I guess I'm struggling to see how it burdens a parent's religious exercise if the school teaches something that the parent disagrees with. You have a choice. You don't have to send your kid to that school. You can put them in another situation.
SPEAKER 13 :
First off, that is such a disingenuous argument, and I can't stand her vocal fry. This is such a disingenuous argument. You're not burdening a parent's religious exercise. That's not what is at issue. What is at issue is whether or not young children should be exposed to sexually explicit age-inappropriate material. If you were to do this in any other setting, that might actually constitute something of an abusive nature. But somehow it's supposed to be sanctified because it's presented in a quote-unquote educational setting. I mean, I would like to know what educational value a second grader can garner from learning about pegging. Don't Google it. Well, Cain, I mean, I need to make the point. Did you just do a Baptist face palm at me?
SPEAKER 11 :
You did. I don't know if that's what it looks like.
SPEAKER 13 :
But still, am I right? I'm right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, you are.
SPEAKER 13 :
I needed to illustrate that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Some truths are hard to hear.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right. Because as jarring as it is to hear, imagine how jarring it is when you're a second grader and you open up a book at school and it features two dudes. Well... You get the idea. Or a girl who's pretending to be a boy. And I don't even want them learning about regular straight sex. I don't even want them learning about that when they're that young. That's something for parents to determine. And it needs to be in the context that parents choose. You cannot just ambush little bitty kids with sexually explicit inappropriate material. That has nothing to do with religious exercise. That has nothing to do with whether or not a parent disagrees or agrees with it. It has to do with whether or not you think exposing children to sexually explicit material constitutes as a form of abuse, which I do. I mean, why are strangers so obsessed with showing kids pictures of people having sex? Because all of these books that are being discussed in this Maryland case, every one of them does that. If you were in a supermarket and some stranger was trying to show your kid pictures of people having sex, you would call the cops. So why is it any different without your permission in a school setting? That's the whole point. That's what we're all asking. That's the whole point. I mean, it's an elementary school kids. I'm not exaggerating. These are little kids. Goodness. When I was a little kid, I thought that literally a stork brought children. A giant bird brought children. Yeah. Um, I don't know when I stopped believing that, but I, I just remember when I was younger, that was the story. And that's the kind of age that these kids are. And even older, like I still think even if it's in junior high or high school, because these, these, these books that they're talking about, they're not educational books, they're political expression. It's not a book that talks about the, uh, you know, clinical attributes of this or that. It's, it's a book that it's literally for the purpose of, uh, really glorifying not even glorifying that's not the right word it's like egregious sexual exploitation and they're trying to pass it off as being educational to like first and second and third graders that's it doesn't matter where your politics are i think that everybody would be like yeah that's really inappropriate for kids it's inappropriate for junior high kids because here's the other issue Not every educator is the same. And you might have some of the stuff presented to kids in a really inappropriate or inarticulate way. And I mean, with some of the stuff you're playing, I mean, that's just that's not educational. And that's brainwashing. And it's just it has nothing to do with education. I don't even understand. It doesn't matter. Parents have the final say. I think parents have the final say all the way up until their kids are 18. Parents have the final say. So this is not an argument over battling people over material that they may agree or disagree with in a classroom. It is about whether or not you think that sexually explicit material is age appropriate for kids in school. Like explicit stuff. One of the books that was in the library down the road from us. I mean, it's a junior high library. Showed oral sex. Graphic. multiple pages. And one of the pages, it was just that. Like someone actually drew it, shaded it in, you know, put all this in. It's one full page showing just that. And a 13-year-old pulled it off the shelves. How is that educational? You tell me. That's just, it's just, it's a sexual fetish and they're demanding gratification at the expense of your children's innocence. I think that if you're pushing these books on kids, I don't say this as a talking point. I don't say this as a soundbite. I don't say it to be intentionally provocative. I, with a thousand percent of my soul, believe that if you are pushing these this type of material on kids, I think that you might actually be a pedophile. Because only pedophiles do stuff like that. That's how bad the stuff in these books is. It's not even you can't even say it's a sophisticated graphic novel. I mean, there's literally some adult drew pictures of children participating in oral sex and they put it in this book. I am not minors. I'm not kidding you. Again, you're in the supermarket and somebody is like, hey, to your kid wants to show him nudie pictures. You would call the cops. But in school, it's OK. And then because it's school, they're telling you you have no right to object to it. That's insane. That has nothing to do with political disagreement. It had to do with religious disagreement. That is age inappropriate, period. So why are I mean, it is people aren't wrong when they say, OK, groomer, because that's exactly what this is. You're you're desensitizing people to the stuff. At that age. Why don't you go ahead and sit him in front of a television and have him watch porn? Same thing. It's literally the same thing. Why don't you just bring in one of those TVs on the wheels and just show him some porn? I mean, you wouldn't do that in school. Or you wouldn't do that anywhere else. But that's like the level of what they're trying to do in school. It's pornographic. And pornographic is, well, that's like the least you could say about it. Yeah, if you set your kids in the living room and showed them porn, you would be arrested. Your kids would be taken away from you. You would be arrested. But they're wanting to do just that in schools with young kids. That's not a stretch. because I've looked at these books. I can't even, in fact, I had, we had management send us an email saying we cannot show any of these images. And I can't even describe them any more than I have for radio airwaves because I'll get fined. Not kidding. And if we show the images on the digital stream, our videos will get taken down on YouTube because they file... They call it pornographic material. Literally. They call it pornographic material and they will pull your video down if you show images of books that they are putting in kids' libraries. That's how bad this stuff is. So you don't even... I've seen some of it. And that's why... I mean, I was left speechless and disgusted because... And I've listened to these parents, like some of the parents in Maryland. I mean, one of them was a one of their kids. They were it was a mother of a second grader. I was like, what purpose does this serve? You're exploiting our children. It honestly, it's a way to prey on kids. I just I can't even believe we're entertaining this as like serious discussion. It's just it's just crazy. Absolutely crazy. So a number of other things to hit because we've got Matt Mowers is going to be coming up a little bit. I wanted to tell you. Oh, I forgot to tell you this story. Southern California mayor says he he wants to purge the homeless by giving them all the fentanyl they want. OK, wait a minute. What? Lancaster mayor. And I'm pretty sure you don't say Lancaster. It's California. So probably Lancaster, right? Lancaster. Mayor Rex or R Rex Paris. What a name. You don't get to have R and then Rex. Just pick one. He shared his views during a city council meeting. A resident took issue with the city's attempt to address the homeless crisis by enclosing the homeless at an abandoned golf course near a residential neighborhood. Paris interrupted the comments and said, what I want to do is give them free fentanyl. He goes, I mean, that's what I want to do. Give them all the fentanyl they want. And somebody told him, well, that's not kind. He's a Republican. He says he has no regrets. But he says that he was referring to homeless criminals who refused to be helped. Maybe not the best thing to say. He goes, they're responsible for most of our robberies, our rapes, half our murders. I mean, I understand the concern about crime within homeless encampments because that's a real thing. But at the same time, I just don't think that that that doesn't jive with the Bible. I got to tell you, I had given. Yeah, or the law. I mean, you're supposed to be a good steward to people who are in need. And I think that some people who willingly choose to exploit the lack of need as a way to, you know, kind of grift. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. It just just is amazing to me. I just think that that's not anywhere's a hat and everything. He I don't know. He said he had at one point said, I wish the president would give us a purge because we need to purge these people. He goes, is it harsh? Yes. He says it's my obligation as the mayor to protect the families that live here. And it's an untenable situation. I'm open to any solution. He wanted to also in 2018 ban neckties from the workplace. I just don't think that Republicans need to make it easier for Democrats to try to unseat them. I don't think that that was a necessary thing for him to say. I mean, it's not a very biblical move. And I, you know, I mean, there's and that's not going to do it. That's not going to take care of the issue because all of the conditions which created that problem are still there. That doesn't that doesn't solve any of the conditions that created the problem. In fact, it creates other problems and you're just getting more fentanyl in. Like, really, we're going to traffic in fentanyl. Come on, dude. There's just better than that. Better than that. Also, we have this. I'm going to pull this up. I got a couple of things here. I don't think I'm going to have time to get to it this segment, so I may have to save it. HBO is doing a Harry Potter series. And there's a lot of issues because they've decided to recast. They're casting some of these central characters. And there's a little bit of an issue, not with the race, but because of how it works with the storyline. So apparently they, Severus Snape, who is this like pale black haired, you know, greasy looking dude. He's going to be played by a black actor. And apparently, He looks exactly the opposite of Snape, who is described very particularly by J.K. Rowling as a thin man with pale skin and greasy shoulder length hair. Now, why does it matter? Why did all of that factor into the objection here? Because the Death Eaters are basically. I mean, they're basically the Nazis of the story. They're all about being pureblood. and looking a certain way. 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SPEAKER 11 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 13 :
Five-minute EV charging is here, but not for U.S.-made cars, apparently, according to the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, well, it's not going to happen. It's the cattle and the BYD rapid charging technologies underscore China's dominance, they say. They stole everything. It's a technological priority for Xi Jinping, though. Two of the world's leading battery developers are locked in a technological race, and they're trying to bring the charging time for an EV to five minutes. That's about the same time it takes to fill up a gas vehicle. And I don't know if that's going to happen. I just don't know if it's going to happen. That's a lot. And so now, and both of the people leading it, both of the entities leading it are Chinese. So see what I mean? That's another reason why I'm just not with EVs. Crews have restored power to nearly all customers after an island-wide blackout hit Puerto Rico. This, according from the Associated Press, power was restored to 90% of customers. This was towards the end of last week, some earlier this week, after an island-wide blackout hit Puerto Rico earlier this week. They said 1.4 million customers, almost 1.5, had electricity less than 48 hours after they see the transmission of all of that, the company Luma Energy. And so everybody had their power restored, thankfully. So goodness, can you imagine? Especially like with it getting warmer and warmer. All right, we have more to come. A little short there, I apologize. But Matt Mowers with EU-US Forum joins us next. Can't do it without the people who make it possible. And that is our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the nation with nationwide coverage you can trust and beyond. I've never had an issue. Even when I have gone internationally, I've never had an issue. And they fund the things that you vote for. To protect and by that I mean they help facilitate like for instance school board fights. They were instrumental in helping parents in my in my town come together and fight back and take over the school board after some pretty bad things happened. And you're going to pay less. You have seamless switching 100% US based customer service team. Keep your number. Keep your phone upgrade. It's never been easier to switch. and you can get a free month of service with promo code Dana. Visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT. Make that switch today and get yourself a free month of service with promo code Dana. That's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana, 972-PATRIOT. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. And I was reading this piece in New York Times. European Union regulators said on Wednesday that Apple and Meta were the first companies to be penalized for violating a new law that they are looking to It's intended to increase competition in the digital economy. Now, there's new tensions now with the administration. They fined Apple 500 million euros, which is about half a billion dollars. Meta was fined 200 million euros because they said they broke the Digital Markets Act that was adopted in 2022. Basically, they're trying to keep. these entities from using their influence, their their status as digital gatekeepers. So that so and they're fighting against, I guess that they think it's going to be a perceived monopoly. They've had some like weird, that's like the just the tip of the iceberg. They've had weird relations, like particularly meta especially with some European nations, about content, about what should be banned, what shouldn't be banned, things of that nature. On this and, of course, those trade deals, joining us now, Matt Mowers, founding board member of the EU-US Forum, and he is a former Trump administration State Department official. Matt, always good to see you. What do you make of this? Is this going to be a real headache between the Trump administration and the EU?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. I mean, look, the Trump administration already came out and called out the European Union for doing this. And let's say exactly what this is. This isn't about trying to increase competition. This is about trying to stifle American companies and innovators. That's all it's about. If you look at the framework of the language that they passed out of Brussels in this digital markets legislation, what it does is essentially tries to create a framework that would only apply essentially to American companies because where's the innovation coming out? The United States. Where are the ideas coming out of the United States? Where do the platforms exist? The United States. Europeans are wholly relying upon technology ideas and innovation coming out of the U.S. here because they've stifled so much of their own economy with the overregulation that they won't. They now want to stop American innovators as well. And so this is nothing but the European Union trying to find a way to penalize American companies right now. And so we're watching it closely at the EU-U.S. forum. And we know that the Trump administration is watching it closely because they've already come out and made a really strong statement on that.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that I mean, if you can't I guess if you you can't control it, then try to penalize it, I guess, is the next best thing. I mean, because I feel like this is the latest in the objections that they've had with Apple and Meta.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and look, we've seen this happen with the European Union on so many different issues, whether it's those anti-free speech laws that they pass, where they're cracking down on free speech and arresting you if you say something they disagree with. Whether it's what you're allowed to actually post online, they're trying to regulate everything that ordinary individuals, individual citizens in the european union are able to say on any given day and now they're actually trying to go after the companies which are providing the platforms to allow them to say them and and that's exactly what this is and it the problem dana and i think we get this instinctively because we're small government conservatives right but in the european union their mindset their elitist mentality is that if it's idea that didn't originate out of some sort of bland, boring, bureaucratic government office in Brussels, then it couldn't possibly be an idea that's good enough for their own people. That had to originate from some capital in a distant, faraway land. It couldn't actually originate out of a hub of innovation or out of an entrepreneurial mindset. And so that's what this is. It's an ideological fight that's happening right now. We're seeing it play out across the board.
SPEAKER 13 :
We're talking with Matt Mowers with the EU-US Forum. J.D. Vance has been traveling over. He gave a speech recently talking about climate change. He was in India, making some inroads, meeting the prime minister over there. I think, how is J.D. Vance perceived by the European Union? Because our media over here tells us that they hate his guts and they think he's a horrible, crazy person. But it also seems like that's not really, you know, the reception and the photos and some of the video I've seen, it doesn't line up.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I mean, you talk to actual officials in Europe. If you get beyond the talking points, obviously, look, there is a cadre of folks who make a living out of Brussels who do not like what J.D. Vance has to say. Why? Because the ideas he's promoting. free speech, open markets, lack of central control are the antithesis of everything that gives them control and power, right? So a lot of them don't like them. But if you actually talk to the individual leaders in the countries, the ones that are actually responsive to their citizens every single day, they think it's a breath of fresh air. They're saying it's about time someone's willing to stand up and say that we need to get tough about our border control because we have too many illegal immigrants coming to our own countries, driving up crime rates that are putting in jeopardy the lives and livelihoods of our own citizens. that there are too many regulations coming out of Brussels that shut down family farming and are actually decreasing their stability of energy markets there by making countries more dependent on energy from Russia and technology from China, which doesn't serve any of the people of Europe well and certainly doesn't serve any benefit to the US-EU relationship. And so if you talk to the individual leaders in those countries, they think it's welcomed that J.D. Vance is saying what he is. But if you're a bureaucrat in Brussels, you're probably not so thrilled.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, well, definitely. I mean, especially when he was telling them they need to wake up with regard to climate change. And I and they they bristle when he says this. But I mean, we've I mean, we've already woken up to this in the United States. It's so interesting because in some respects, like I feel like, you know, in Europe, they reject more of the I guess. for the lack of a better way to put it, the woke trends and culture, I feel like they reject that. But yet at the same time, they embrace like climate change and wealth redistribution. And but even that now is falling out of favor, I feel like with the majority of voters in not just European countries, but the EU total.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, because it's failing the citizens, right? It's failing their own people these days, right? When you have environmental policies that make it impossible to actually increase your energy security or make it impossible to actually support your farmers in your own country that are providing the food for the people, that's going to have such a detrimental impact on its own citizens that they're saying, wait a second, these policies are failing us right now. When all of a sudden they have this kind of socialist economic system that isn't making anyone wealthier, that isn't actually lifting up anyone out of poverty, but all it's doing is causing Europe's economy to stagnate, especially those in the European Union. You want to see where the fastest growing economies are in the Eurozone? Many of them are outside of the European Union. They're in Eastern and Central Europe. They're places that aren't beholden to what's coming out of Brussels because they don't have to respond to the whims of the bureaucrats in Brussels every single day. That could be the trend for all of Europe if they were to reject and turn back the page on these socialist ideas of wealth redistribution and the rest. But the problem is that would mean giving up political control. That would mean actually giving entrepreneurs and innovators the ability to provide for themselves and let their ideas flourish in the marketplace of ideas, something that is so anathema to anyone coming out of Brussels.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. So Italy was in last week. Maloney visiting with Trump talking about trade deals. Norway's there today. I believe it's Norway. That's meeting with the president today to discuss trade deals. What what what do you anticipate happening with the with EU member nations and establishing these individual 70 some odd trade deals that we desperately need to get done quickly? The time is ticking on it. What are your thoughts on this? Are you optimistic that we're going to be able to do these one on one, you know, and kind of like bring everything back to, you know, a little bit more of a reason position equal and actual open fair trade?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think we are in a lot of cases, right? In the cases of the individual countries that are able to negotiate, we will. And you're seeing, I think it's over 100 countries now that have reached out or in constant negotiations, whether it's with the U.S. Trade Rep's Office, Department of Treasury, Council of Economic Advisers, Commerce Department, all the different teams that are involved. And I was talking to folks at the White House the other day who are deeply engaged in all of these and I mean, they're pulling 23-hour days, essentially, to try to get through all the details of it all because they've had so much outreach of all these countries trying to have a better deal with the United States, which was the intended effect. The two that are likely to get left at the altar because they're digging in their heels are China, which we've seen how that's been playing out for them now with over 120% tariffs on any Chinese goods, and the European Union. You know, the European Union needs to come to the table and actually get serious. They need to make a real offer. I mean, they've floated out some potential ideas about maybe tinkering around the edges. Forget it. The fact that they're charging what they charge for American vehicles and we're charging less than 10 percent on European vehicles is the reason why you see a lot of Audis and BMWs being driven around the United States and not many Fords being driven around Berlin. And that's the kind of trade deal that Donald Trump's looking to actually have right now. So the EU wants to get serious about it. They've got to actually come forth with something that's an actual idea, an actual plan.
SPEAKER 13 :
I really hope so. I really hope they can make this happen because one of the things that was on the list was, and this sounds incredibly self-serving, was red wines and some of these great Italian wines. I don't want to have that happen. I don't want to have to pay triple for that stuff. It's about me, Matt. It's about what I want. That's what it comes down to.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. Stock up now, Dana. Stock up now.
SPEAKER 13 :
Matt Mowers with the EU-US Forum. You do such great work and thank you for laying all of this out for us. We love talking to you. We'll have you back. Thanks so much.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sounds great. Thanks so much.
SPEAKER 13 :
Now, that's that. And that was, man, when I was looking at the price, the prices on that, too. Oh, my gosh. Well, perspective prices, I could say speculatively. We have a lot more on the way as we finish out this third hour. I've got a couple of other things that we're going to hit. We're going to save that for the coming up for this next segment. Look, we're actually on time today, Kane. Are you excited? I mean, maybe I wasn't for the other. the other quick five segments, but right now I can never shut up. But right now I'm actually on time. I feel so proud. As we move, because we got today in stupidity on the way, what does living better mean to you? Is it more money, a bigger house? Now think about this. What about how you feel physically every day? Life is so much better when you feel good. When you wake up feeling great, you can do more of the things that you love and you're ready to take on the day. If pain is affecting your life, see how Relief Factor can help change that. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor supports your body's response to inflammation. And it doesn't just mask pain for a short time. It helps to reduce or even eliminate it. and it's safe to take daily. In fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective it is. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Feel better every day, and you'll live better every day. Trying Relief Factor is easy. Get their three-week quick start for only $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF, or visit relieffactor.com.
SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
So I want to set this up for you. Bill Mulligan, who I think does great reporting. I think he has some of the best reporting about immigration and border issues. So California allowed this criminal, illegal alien, to go free. He killed two different people with DUI in just three years. I want you to listen to this. I'll do somebody 13.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Dana, good morning to you. This illegal alien had a lengthy rap sheet here in California long before he ever killed these two California teenagers. He's got several felony convictions on his record, several convictions for driving without a license, but he was still out and about on California's roads. And this young American couple ended up paying the price for that. And now their killer is getting an early release.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. He's getting an early release. And, like, reduced sentencing, all of this. I just... Unreal. Now, keep that on deck and listen to this headline. So you remember the Maryland man that everybody's like going down and trying to visit in El Salvador? When he was pulled over the final time, did you hear about the car that he was driving? It belonged to a human trafficker. Now, what was one of the things that was brought up twice in Abrego Garcia's three separate interviews? Court appearances. This made it was in the second one and the third one. The fact that he was running with known human traffickers. So he's in MS-13 and MS-13. runs people. They smuggle, they deal with human trafficking and exploitation. And he was running with them. In fact, he was driving the car that belonged to one of them who had a record for that specifically. And it was an illegal alien, Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes. He was the one who owned the car and he is a known notorious human smuggler. Now you tell me, You're going to go borrow somebody's car. If they are, A, they're here illegally. B, they are a known, evidentiary-based, known human smuggler. Are you telling me that you're going to go borrow somebody and you don't know that about them? Especially when they have a long record of it? The Tennessee Highway Trooper who stopped him, when he pulled him over, he was speeding and he was swerving in and out of lanes. And the trooper saw eight other people in the car with Obrego Garcia. Now, he began driving. Now, get this, Kane. He began driving three days prior from Houston via St. Louis to perform construction work. That's what he said. But the report at the top, the trooper was very concerned about human trafficking because they had no luggage in the vehicle and all the individuals gave the trooper the exact same address as Abrego Garcia did. And they weren't all related. And when speaking with a trooper, Abrego Garcia pretended to not be able to speak English. And then, uh, He gave him a warning for driving with an expired license. He gave him a citation for driving infractions. And he said, oh, no, the car is my boss's car. Well, the boss was identified by DHS as Hernandez-Reyes, who pleaded guilty previously to human smuggling. So he's been convicted. The guy who owned the car has been convicted of human smuggling. How is that guy still in the United States? He's an illegal alien. He was convicted of human smuggling, but okay. And then DHS, they ran the car homeland security investigations in Baltimore. They ran it further and they flagged the vehicle as belonging to a target of someone they were investigating for additional, apparently a new case of human trafficking. And they said that, quote, vehicle is used by HSI Baltimore target in human smuggling slash trafficking operation. Vehicle makes repeated trips to southern border to pick up non-citizens, end quote. Now, he had gone from St. Louis to Houston and was coming back and was in Tennessee when he got pulled over in a car that they said was already flagged for this activity. You tell me. Today in stupidity came.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, it's that one chick, Dylan Mulvaney. Oh, that dude? Yes, that's what I meant. Cut 22, Juan. This is him. Boy, he's threatening leaving the United States.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yay. I'm trying to move here permanently. There's something about being here that makes me feel like people have been so kind, and the theater culture is amazing, and Percy Pigs are my favorite. So honestly, that makes the move worth it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Raise your hand if you care.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, I don't care. Go, go, go then, please. So you don't have to bitch and moan anymore about not being taken seriously because you're cosplaying as a woman.
SPEAKER 10 :
And no hands were raised.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, nobody wants him to stay. Folks, that does it for us tonight. Make sure you go sign up at Substack, the newsletter chapter and verse. Lots of good stuff that comes out there regularly and you get a heads up of what we're talking about during the day. And also find us Facebook and YouTube. Like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow. Have a great night.
The episode takes a deeper dive into America's pressing birth rate issues, introducing potential financial incentives for families. Critically discussed by Mary Zock from FRC, this segment uncovers the multifaceted cultural and policy shifts aimed at rejuvenating family dynamics. Additionally, Secretary Doug Collins voices the executive effort against ingrained anti-Christian bias, reflecting on its implementation and expected challenges. Don't miss this comprehensive discussion that spans global, national, and social policies.
SPEAKER 13 :
from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good afternoon. Hope you're having a fantastic day. Welcome to this Thursday edition of Washington Watch. I am Jody Heiss, Senior Vice President here at the Family Research Council and President of FRC Action. Deeply honored to be filling in today for Tony and thrilled likewise to have you on board with us. We've got a lot coming your way. Here are some of the headlines. The Trump administration continues to do what it can to try to bring an end to the Russia-Ukraine war, while at the same time the two sides continue blaming one another for the lack of progress.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's not our war we didn't start, as you know, but we're trying to end the dying, we're trying to end the destruction, and we've shown the path forward. We can see the finish line, but both of them have to get there. We're going to do everything we can to help them get there, but they have to ultimately say yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was Secretary of State Marco Rubio during a press gaggle today at the White House in the Oval Office. I'll be discussing the latest on these peace talks when I'm joined here in just a few moments by Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs. And as President Trump approaches his 100th day back in office, unbelievable how fast time is flying, but he continues churning out executive orders, including several that he did yesterday related to education. And among those EOs that he signed was one that reinstates common sense school discipline policies. That comes as an opposition to the discriminatory policies Policies that once existed dealing with racial characteristics rather than the objective behavior alone.
SPEAKER 17 :
It gives teachers the authority now to have discipline in their classroom and discipline the person who is being disruptive.
SPEAKER 05 :
We took that away. That was Education Secretary Linda McMahon commenting on the executive order during yesterday's signing event with President Trump. So why was this EO an important one for our schools? Well, Ryan Petty of the Florida State Board of Education will be joining me in a few moments to discuss this. And as promised, the Trump administration's effort to eradicate anti-Christian bias in the federal government is getting an all-hands-on-deck response now. The Department of Veterans Affairs has now started its own task force, and VA Secretary Doug Collins will be joining me later in the program to talk about that. And then we'll close out the program today by looking into proposals that the White House is fielding to help give a boost to the U.S. birth rate. Among some of the ideas that are being floated is a $5,000 bonus, if you will, to mothers who are having children. And as you can imagine, those on the abortion-loving left are having a fit about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Isn't something better than nothing, I guess?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, not in this case.
SPEAKER 11 :
I feel like if Biden proposed this, we would all be saying it's groundbreaking and a great idea.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, I'm sorry. I don't like the idea that somebody is saying, I'm going to pay you to have more kids.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. That was Whoopi Goldberg yesterday on The View. I don't know if you heard that, but they literally are saying, is nothing really better than something? Unbelievable. Well, we'll be discussing all of this a little bit later in the program when I'm joined by Mary Zock, who is FRC's director here at the Center for Human Dignity. So as usual, we've got a lot, lot, lot coming your way today. You don't want to miss any of it. But if you do... You can always catch up at TonyPerkins.com. All right, I want to begin by at least introducing this. We're trying right now to get Andy Biggs. He's not quite ready yet, but we're going to be talking to him. You probably woke up seeing this morning that Russia struck Kiev, and this is the deadliest attack that Russia has had on the capital city since July of 2024. And of course, this has made a lot of people, including President Trump, upset. There were at least eight civilian deaths in all of that. And who knows what this is going to do for the negotiation efforts. And hopefully we'll be talking with Congressman Andy Biggs here in just a few moments when we're able to get him. Until he comes, I want to swap over and bring on Joshua Arnold. Joshua is a Washington Stan senior writer. Joshua, thank you for joining us. Thanks for coming on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hi, Jerry. Happy to be here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, listen, I'm glad you were able to come on because I've got a couple of things that I want to ask you that I wasn't sure if we were going to be able to get to. But we've got at least 12 Democratic attorney generals from various states who have sued. They're suing the Trump administration. What do you think about all of this? Just kind of give us the 30,000-foot view of what's going on.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right, 12 Democratic state attorneys general have challenged the Trump administration's tariff policies in a special federal court dealing with trade issues. It's based in Manhattan and basically their argument is that the Constitution gives the power to collect duties to Congress. Congress has delegated some of those powers to the President, but they argue that the conditions and prerequisites placed on those powers have not been met here. And they specifically argue that the law the Trump administration invoked to implement this particular tariff regime that deals with emergency situations, that it does not allow tariffs at all, does not authorize tariffs at all, and that even if it did, the way that Trump has done it does not constitute an emergency.
SPEAKER 05 :
Very interesting. This whole Trump tariff issue is making waves all across the board. One question I had, Josh, with all of this is the standing. It seems like we have had so many lawsuits in recent years where people that you would think obviously had standing in a case, it was declared they had no standing, so the case couldn't go forward. What about these AGs? Do they... Or will they have standing do you think as this thing goes forward?
SPEAKER 14 :
That is a good question. The argument that they made in their lawsuit was essentially that certain entities of the state government such as universities had to make some overseas purchases and pay more for those purchases because of the tariffs. and they also argued that their cost of doing business, just cost of administration in general, would go up because of these tariffs making the price of everything go up domestically. I guess it's a similar argument to what the states made a couple years ago when they challenged the Biden administration over its cancellation of federal student loans with the state of Missouri arguing that they had a state entity that held a lot of those loans, which ultimately was the argument that established Missouri's standing in court. I don't know if this is sufficient to grant them standing, especially in this other specialty trade court. So we'll have to see what the court does here. I'm not really sure whether they'll have standing or not.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think that's a really interesting question, likewise, and one that I've been thinking about because that has become a major issue, it seems, on so many different pretty important legal trials and cases that we've watched here recently. So let me ask you this. The U.S. Treasury Secretary, Scott, continues to— announced things that I think are pretty significant economically, globally. And one of those pertains to the global economy and the pushback, if you will, of the Trump administration on everything from climate to transgender stuff. What is happening from the White House on the global stage as it relates to the economy right now?
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. Secretary Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, gave a speech yesterday to an international trade association just based here in D.C., a few blocks from his office, in which he said that the Trump administration would work to essentially have more leverage over these international institutions We pay the most money to these institutions, we have the most voting power, but oftentimes we take a back seat and let others drive them. And he said that we would specifically try to move them away from work on climate change, gender, and social issues. He was talking specifically about the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, and then the World Bank there. When those were established, Congress assigned the Treasury Department to be kind of America's point of contact with those organizations, which is why Besant is the one taking the lead on addressing those institutions in particular.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, what's fascinating about this is not only the global impact that this is going to have, which I think is pretty stunning in itself, but the marked difference that this is from the previous administration, the Biden administration. Are you hearing much talk about this really a reversal in the direction on the global market?
SPEAKER 14 :
It really is reversal. In fact, President Biden was the one who nominated the current president of the World Bank in 2023. It was the former MasterCard CEO, A.J. Banga, who's an Indian American. And President Biden nominated him specifically to work on on addressing climate change at the World Bank. So this is a 180-degree reversal. We see it in other ways as well. The Biden administration was trying to push progressive policies through the World Health Organization's pandemic treaty and other things like that. When they got stymied by the checks and balances in Congress, they turned to international organizations to push their progressive agenda. And the Trump administration has said enough.
SPEAKER 05 :
Are we hearing anything yet in terms of what kind of impact or how this is being received from other nations, or are we in kind of a wait-and-see mode, or what's happening from a response perspective?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think this was just the first initial shot across the bow, if you will. We can probably imagine that some of the more conservative countries, say in sub-Saharan Africa, will welcome the news, whereas some of the more progressive countries in Europe might still be on board with continuing the push. You know, there's a lot of countries. They all have a little bit of say. The U.S. has the most say, but our voting share is, in most of these institutions, somewhere between 15 and 20 percent. So we have, you know, it's easiest for us to collect a coalition of the willing. We have a head start, but we still have to do the diplomatic legwork to find out which other countries are on board.
SPEAKER 05 :
Were you surprised at all that the Treasury Secretary delivered this message?
SPEAKER 14 :
It is interesting that he is the front man because if you look at his basic biography, you wouldn't suspect him of being a social conservative in any way. He's had a long career working on Wall Street as an investor, as a hedge fund manager. He is openly gay. He worked actually for George Soros for over a decade managing his money. You know, so this is a guy who's probably more comfortable, you know, on Wall Street than in a Moms for Liberty event. But yet even he feels unfettered by Trump's electoral victory to push back against progressive ideological dogma and say, you know, let's have international financial institutions focus on finance, not focus on this social agenda that is divisive and destructive.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's amazing. Joshua Arnold with Washington Stand. Thank you for joining us on Washington Watch. All right, friends, coming up, we've got a lot of news regarding education. You don't want to miss what's coming your way, and we'll bring it to you right after the break. Stay tuned.
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At Family Research Council, we believe religious freedom is a fundamental human right that all governments must protect. That's why FRC President Tony Perkins went to Capitol Hill to testify on behalf of persecuted Christians in Nigeria. Islamist terror groups target Christians and other religious minorities in Nigeria with brutal violence. Representative Chris Smith, who chaired the hearing, said 55,000 people have been killed and 21,000 abducted in the last five years alone. The congressman also stressed that 89% of Christians in the world who are martyred are from Nigeria.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yet the government of Nigeria has failed to make progress against religiously motivated persecution of Christians despite religious freedom being enshrined as an essential human right in their constitution.
SPEAKER 10 :
Tony Perkins called for the United States to send an unmistakable message.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is systematic religious violence. Nigeria must be redesignated a country of particular concern. The Biden administration's removal of this designation was a reckless mistake that emboldened the very terrorists who are slaughtering Christians.
SPEAKER 10 :
Redesignating Nigeria will enable the U.S. government to pressure Nigerian leaders to protect vulnerable Christians.
SPEAKER 04 :
These are not just numbers. These are fathers, their mothers, their children, their families.
SPEAKER 10 :
Bishop Wilfred Anagabe risked his life to speak out, sharing firsthand accounts of the danger faced in his church district in central Nigeria.
SPEAKER 01 :
We live in fear because at any point it can be our turn to be killed. But to remain silent is to die twice. So I have chosen to speak.
SPEAKER 10 :
FRC is calling on President Trump to act now to promote religious freedom around the globe and speak up on behalf of Christians in Nigeria.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heist, sitting in today for Tony. Glad to have you with us as well. Before I introduce my next guest, let me just make a personal comment. Andy Biggs, I don't know what happened, why he was not able to join us in the last segment, but Andy is a dear, dear friend of mine, one of my closest friends while I was in Congress. And there's heartbreaking news. They lost their daughter. last week to cancer and of course he and i were in communication and so forth but i would just encourage each of you to remember the biggs family as they are walking through this difficult time in their life it is from my perspective from sincere heartfelt love and respect for him and their family that i would encourage you to pray for them All right, yesterday, President Trump signed more executive orders related specifically to education. And among those was one addressing the Obama-Biden administration's troubling policy requiring schools to discriminate on the basis of race by imposing discipline based on racial characteristics rather than on objective behavior alone. How can you even do that? But what negative impact could such a flawed policy like that have? And what will this new executive order do? Well, here now to discuss this is Ryan Petty. He's vice chair of the Florida State Board of Education. Ryan, welcome to Washington Watch. Great to have you.
SPEAKER 17 :
Great to be here with you today. Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. So for those who may not be aware, share with us just personally some of the tragic circumstances, really, that brought you to the State Board of Education.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, well, I'm sitting here today with you because of some failed federal education policy implemented by the Obama administration. It certainly contributed to the murder of my daughter and 16 others at the Parkland High School tragedy in 2018. What we learned as we investigated that tragedy is that there were discriminatory discipline policies put in place at the behest, it was a little bit more than the behest of the Obama administration, there were some strong-arm tactics there used by the DOJ and the Department of Education to push school districts across the country to quote-unquote stop you know, discriminating in their discipline policies. The practical fact is that the push by the Obama administration actually caused racial discrimination to be implemented in several districts. And the reaction in the school district in Broward County, where Parkland is, was to create something called the Promise Program. And The Promise Program ultimately was nothing more than really a community relations effort to try to convince the public in Broward County that the school district took disparate outcomes and took discipline equity seriously. Really what it was was just an agreement between the school district and the sheriff at the time to stop arresting juveniles and to overlook or dismiss disciplinary behavior by certain students. And it created chaos. It contributed to the Parkland tragedy. And right after the Parkland tragedy, 59% of the teachers in Broward County, their own union polled them and found that 59% felt unsafe in their classrooms. So that's the practical reality of these Obama policies.
SPEAKER 05 :
Unbelievable. Chaos is the word, underscored. So how do you grade, if you will, the president's executive order that he signed yesterday on school discipline?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I give them an A+. Now, there's a lot of homework to do. I'll be honest. There's more that needs to be done. But getting that executive order in place and starting the process with DOJ and the Department of Education to unwind the damage that's been decaying our school districts across the country, it's a great first start. I applaud the president for taking this step. But now it's really going to be up to the DOJ to clean house. It's going to be up to the Department of Ed to rescind the disciplinary policies that are discriminatory. And let's get back to schools where teachers can teach and students can learn.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and discipline is a part of it. You really ultimately can't have education without some degree of discipline, as it is in itself a discipline. I don't know if you saw this, but earlier today, a judge at least has temporarily halted the White House's push to end diversity, equity, and inclusion in K-12 public schools. Do you have a reaction to that at this point?
SPEAKER 17 :
You know, the Democrats and, you know, progressives who have had the education establishment captured from K through 12 through our universities and, you know, the school, the colleges of education that teach our teachers have been captured for decades. They don't like what the president is doing right now because they like to be in control of it and they like to fight. well, they like to run public education in the United States. And so I applaud the president. My reaction is, you know, lawfare will only get them so far. But the people of the United States, we've elected President Trump to do a job. Part of that job was fixing what's wrong with public education. And President Trump is trying to do everything in his power as the executive in the United States to clean that up. And we need to get behind him. And these activist judges need to keep their politics at home.
SPEAKER 05 :
So we do need to get behind him. I totally agree. We've got less than a minute. How can state officials across the country partner with the White House and get behind him on this issue?
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. As the executive order said, there's more to come. The attorney general and the Department of Education is going to reach out to states. But I applaud, you know, what we've done here in Florida is in anticipation of this. We've been cleaning house for the last couple of years under the leadership of Ron DeSantis as our governor. It's been fantastic at our commissioner of education. But. I would tell my fellow state board members across the country, start removing these policies immediately. There are folks out there that can help you find them and eradicate them. And that's what we need to get to as soon as possible, because it's in the best interest of all students that they are treated equally. And to your point, discipline is a part of that. We have to have discipline in our schools.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, Ryan Petty, Vice Chair of the Florida State Board of Education. Grateful for your insights today. Thank you for joining us on Washington Watch. Thank you. All right, friends, don't go anywhere. Veterans Affairs Secretary Doug Collins is going to be joining me on the other side of the break to highlight the launch of the VA's Anti-Christian Bias Task Force that they have now started. So stay tuned. We'll bring it your way right after the break.
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Everything we do begins as an idea. Before there can be acts of courage, there must be the belief that some things are worth sacrificing for. Before there can be marriage, there is the idea that man should not be alone. Before there was freedom, there was the idea that individuals are created equal. It's true that all ideas have consequences, but we're less aware that all consequences are the fruit of ideas. Before there was murder, there was hate. Before there was a Holocaust, there was the belief by some people that other people are undesirable. Our beliefs determine our behavior, and our beliefs about life's biggest questions determine our worldview. Where did I come from? Who decides what is right and wrong? What happens when I die? Our answers to these questions explain why people see the world so differently. Debates about abortion are really disagreements about where life gets its value. Debates over sexuality and gender and marriage are really disagreements about whether the rules are made by us or for us. What we think of as political debates are often much more than that. They're disagreements about the purpose of our lives and the source of truth. As Christians, our goal must be to think biblically about everything. Our goal is to help you see beyond red and blue, left and right, to see the battle of ideas at the root of it all. Our goal is to equip Christians with a biblical worldview and help them advance and defend the faith in their families, communities, and the public square. Cultural renewal doesn't begin with campaigns and elections. It begins with individuals turning from lies to truth. But that won't happen if people can't recognize a lie and don't believe truth exists. We want to help you see the spiritual war behind the political war, the truth claims behind the press release, and the forest from the trees.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hope you're having a great day. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your host Jody Heiss filling in today for Tony. Thank you so much for joining us. All right. President Trump's executive order to eradicate anti-Christian bias is beginning to take on departmental form. I mean, really, right off the heels of the DOJ's task force announcement, now we have the Department of Veterans Affairs doing the same things. So how deep does all this anti-Christian bias go within the federal government? And what do these task forces hope to find? Well, here to discuss this is the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Doug Collins. He previously served as a U.S. House of Representatives for Georgia's 9th Congressional District, while I served as Georgia's 10th Congressional District, and it was an incredible honor to be able to serve alongside of him, and now Secretary of Veterans Affairs. Secretary Collins, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you, my friend.
SPEAKER 20 :
Joe, it's good to see you, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, listen, let me just first formally, officially, yet again congratulate you on this incredible position. I cannot think of anyone I'd rather see as a Secretary of Veterans Affairs. What's your experience been so far in this new role?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, it's been a lot, Joe. You and I have been in, you know, was up here in Congress. We know that in our congressional offices, we had a lot of attention paid to the VA by our constituents. And a lot of our constituent calls you and I had both had to deal with was, you know, how do we get care? How do we get benefits? How do we get our appointments? Well, now we're at the, you know, I'm at the tip of the spear of making sure our veterans are put first at the VA. And that's been my first overall goal. is to make sure that we're a service organization designed to service our veterans who've earned the benefits of health care, their disability benefits, education benefits, loan benefits. But I'll tell you, it's been quite an eye-opening experience. The employee base is larger than the active duty army. And for years, it's been focused on itself more than it has the veterans. So we're taking some time. We've got great folks who want to do what is right. I think it's just leadership to put them in the right direction. And the president has been very forceful behind us, supporting us. So we're looking forward to it. But it has been a lot, I'll say that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, your personal history just totally equips you for this role in every way, and we're very proud of you. Let's talk, if we can, a few moments, Mr. Secretary, about this task force against anti-Christian bias. What goals do you have in mind for this task force, and what are you hoping to accomplish?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I think the one thing is to go back to what you and I have seen so much in our time, both in our pastures, me as a chaplain for over 23 years in the Air Force and also in the Navy, is that it seems to be okay. We have sort of an unwritten rule, especially in Washington, D.C., among governmental agencies. Yes, we prescribe to religious freedom if— you're not a christian and and i think this has sometimes been the bias now it's not everywhere but it is in places that we and i have seen it where we saw it under the previous administration you know going after those who are uh you know going to school board meetings praying them at uh abortion clinics these kind of things uh that have been over the top whereas other things are ignored you know in our own facilities we you know i had there was one that was dealt with last year and i put an end to it making sure this year won't happen again where A chaplain was called on the carpet, so to speak, for preaching out of Romans 1, and some people didn't like it. Well, he was just preaching the truth of, frankly, of what the word says. But as you well know, a chaplain has the protected privilege of speaking as their faith group dictates and then actually working in the space as a chaplain, whether it be in the VA or in the military itself. So we made sure that that's not going to happen again. There's no pre-reading of sermons. There's no approval of what can be or not said going forward. So we're with that. Those are the kind of things. But you've also seen it in other areas. So we just want people to know that there are rights that you have and we're not going to be infringed on that. We want everybody to express their religious belief or lack thereof, but it be all equal, not some more equal than others.
SPEAKER 05 :
So how deep, now you have a whole different perspective, just how deep does this anti-Christian bias go? And is it going to be a huge undertaking to eradicate it?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, sitting in the meeting the other day, especially with other agencies, it was really interesting to hear not only a little bit of what we had going on, and as you well know, going back to the vaccine mandate kind of stuff and the lack of a true religious accommodation there, but you're also seeing it in other ways, especially at State Department, the way they had uh handled you know issues of homeschooling issues of other uh you know things that would have kept a a diplomat off the field or in the department of justice how they went after some of these organizations uh you know simply because they were out of favor with the the mainstream frankly left and the issues of abortion and homeschool and what parents have the right to know about their kids the transgender and the in the the issues, DEI kind of issues, you know, being forced to agree to something that, you know, you may have a deep religious belief that is just wrong. So, look, I think it's coming out. I think we're going to see more people come forward to talk about it. We're going to make sure that, again, the playing field is level. The president wants to make sure that religious freedom, religious liberty is found for everyone. And again, it's applied equally across the board.
SPEAKER 05 :
We've only got less than a minute or so left. I know you've got a whole list of things that you're looking to address in Veterans Affairs. Real quickly, what are some of the top ones that are of deep concern to you?
SPEAKER 20 :
Thanks, Joe. Let me just say the first and foremost I'm having to do is fight off rumor and innuendo by, you know, even members of Congress, unions, some of our veterans groups that we're making all these changes that are hurting veterans health care. Let me just make it very clear. We're not cutting health care benefits. We're not cutting disability benefits. We're trying to make sure that we have a workforce that matches veterans. what we need to be doing in the most efficient way to get even better care to our veterans. You saw this when you're on the Hill. They put a lot of money into this department over the last few years, a lot of people, but we're still having the metrics not do as well as they should be. So my first and foremost goal is to make sure the veteran gets what they have earned, putting the veteran first at the VA. and making sure that we're doing that in the most efficient possible way, because I wouldn't expect anybody to not be treating our tax dollars in the way they should. So for us, it's a big project. Look forward to talking with you more about it as we move forward.
SPEAKER 05 :
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Doug Collins, thank you so much for joining us today. God bless you. All right, friends, much more coming your way. Stay tuned right here on Washington Watch. We'll be back in just a moment.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to have you. I'm your host, Jody Heiss, sitting in today for Tony. All right, before I dive into this next section, I want to again encourage you to sign our petition urging the U.S. Department of Justice to take action against the discredited Southern Poverty Law Center. We always just refer to it as the SPLC. But we're calling on all ties with the SPLC to be severed. And we're also calling for there to be an investigation into their role in influencing federal agencies under previous administrations, including their coordination with government entities to silence political opponents. Folks, this stuff just has to stop. And so we're encouraging you to come on board, sign the petition, help us put a little momentum behind all of this. You can do so by simply texting SPLC, SPLC to 67742. And we also, by the way, have a link to that petition on TonyPerkins.com under the resources for today. So be sure to check that out. Okay, yesterday President Trump was answering questions from reporters, and one of them asked whether or not his administration was considering bonuses for moms whenever they have a child.
SPEAKER 07 :
There are reports that you're considering doing something for moms across the country, giving them some kind of bonus when they have a child. Are you considering that? Sounds like a good idea to me.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know that question was a little hard to understand, but that was basically the question. Are you considering some sort of bonus for moms whenever they have a child? And of course, the president said, sounds like a good idea to me. And of course, this question came from a report that indeed the administration is considering a proposal that could mean as much as $5,000 in extra cash for moms after giving birth. So is this a good idea? especially considering where our nation's fertility rate stands right now. Well, here to discuss this and more is Mary Zock. Mary's the director of the Center for Human Dignity here at the Family Research Council. Mary, always great to have you. Welcome back to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks so much for having me on, Jody.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, so let's just kind of give a 30,000 foot view of all of this. And I guess, at least to me, the beginning place is the whole question of the fertility rate in the first place. Where right now does our nation's fertility rate stand?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it actually did improve slightly in the last year, so that's a plus. But even with the improvement, the rate is about 1.6 children per woman over the course of her lifetime. So that means we are below replacement level, replacement level being about 2.1 children across the course of a lifetime. And this has catastrophic consequences for our country. We know that our economy relies on future children growing up and working here in the United States. We know, you know, so much in our healthcare system relies upon the future of America, of children being born, of families working together. And so we really are in dire straits here, and we really do need to figure out how are we going to solve this problem.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there's no question that the abortion rate has to enter into all of this equation. But before we get there, what is the difference, say, between the fertility rate and the birth rate? Explain that for us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so it's sort of a nuanced definition, but the birth rate is the number of babies who are born among all women. And then the fertility rate is sort of that average of what we see expected of women of reproductive age. So right now we're looking at a fertility rate of about 1.6 babies per woman over the course of her lifetime.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I probably, there's no way to actually tell, but the chemical abortion drugs and all the abortion stuff, to what extent does that interfere? Do we know? Do we have any idea? Is there any evidence on that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we know that babies are being killed every day through the use of the abortion drug. And then we even have evidence that that abortion drug is making its way into the water systems, and it is making it is perhaps making it difficult for women to carry pregnancies to term. We know that there's a huge crisis of infertility in our country where couples who desperately want to have a child find themselves unable to conceive. And the use of the mifepristone drug has to be part of that. It has to be impacting because it totally changes what should happen in a woman's reproductive system when she is going to carry a child.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, it has to have an impact. I would love for someone to do a study to try to get a little more specific into that, because it seems to me, Mary, that that type of information could have enormous ramifications on this whole issue. But nonetheless, let's get back to the what's referred to as the baby bonuses. There's a whole lot of different proposals that are floating around out there regarding the bumping up our birth rate. What are some of the proposals that you're hearing? What all is being put out there?
SPEAKER 06 :
So I've heard several different, the $5,000 cash bonus for a mom after she gives birth to her child. I've heard of 30% of Fulbright scholarships being offered to couples who have children. I've heard of efforts to push government funding into teaching couples about a woman's cycle. There's only a brief period of time each month when a woman is actually fertile. And a lot of people are unaware of that. And so there's often a struggle to get pregnant that really could be solved through more knowledge about a woman's cycle. I have heard of the possibility of adjusting someone's income tax based on the number of children they have. So there are a lot of creative ideas here of government policies that are directly tied to attempts to increase family sizes.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, for a long time, we have had so many policies that appear to be just the opposite. They discouraged family. They hurt families. And it's refreshing to hear that at least there's talk and some proposals floating around that encourage family growth and encourage family units as a whole. Do you think that's really what's behind all of this is driving a lot of this conversation?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I think for it to work, that has to be what's driving it. We can't just say, oh, we need more people here in the United States. That's not going to solve the crisis of there not being enough children raised in families. What we need are children raised in a loving environment, in a family where they're nurtured and loved and where they can grow up to be productive members of society. That doesn't just happen when people just... have children and then neglect them as their parents. You know, that's part of what is necessary. We need a loving environment between a husband and a wife where the family is at the center. That has to be at the foundation of the proposals here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. I mean, that is the centerpiece, if you will, of any healthy society. And so it's refreshing to me that we're seeing this type of conversation at least come to the table. Now, we talked briefly about abortion and how the chemical abortion drugs and some others may be impacting all of this. Is there anything beyond that that's causing the low birth rates?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so when we think about the other time in American history, or the time in American history when we had a baby boom, it was obviously following World War II. My grandfathers both served in World War II. One was stationed in the Pacific. I have his letters, the letters between he and my grandmother, and they were all about how much they loved each other, all about their family, all about the little girl that they already had and that he couldn't wait to see while he was stationed in the Pacific. And then he came home, and they had five more children. They miscarried one, but went on to raise four additional boys and then the one little girl that they had prior to him leaving for war. But my grandfather and grandmother had grown up in the Great Depression. They grew up with nothing. And then my grandfather went and fought during World War II. And what they recognized because of those challenges was that what matters in this life is not the possessions that you have. It's not the status of your job. It's not the vacations you can take. It's the people who you love who are there. It's your family. It's your devotion to God. And so who wouldn't want to have a large family when your husband has that idea, when his whole life is about sacrifice for the family, when the wife has that idea, when it's all about sacrifice for her husband and her children? Who wouldn't want to have that? And that's what we're missing today. We have a culture that is so incredibly selfish. Pornography usage is through the roof. We have social media use that causes people to become depressed and anxious and just to communicate over the internet instead of communicating in person with others and building relationships. It's rampant. We see that... people are becoming more and more selfish instead of becoming more and more selfless. And in order to foster a culture where we're willing to accept the gift of children and to recognize the great gift that it is, we need to go back to what my grandparents learned through the Great Depression and through World War II. And we need to become selfless.
SPEAKER 05 :
Extremely well said, Mary. So this proposal, and you've mentioned there are several of them out there, but it seems to me that this one, the proposal for $5,000 per baby, is kind of getting at least a lot of attention, if not some significant traction. Is this the right way, do you think, to address the low birth rate?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, I am currently pregnant, Jody, so I am hoping that they pass this and they pass it fast so that I can collect that $5,000. But, you know, I think long-term, this isn't going to solve our problem, right? That we might see an initial increase in the number of people who are having babies because of this, but long-term, it's not going to solve the issues of... You know, the number of women who are hoping to get married but haven't met someone because the men that they have met are not interested in marriage. It's not going to solve the problem of couples who would rather go on vacation than have kids. And it's not going to solve the problem of infertility that is a major cross that many couples are carrying. What it is, though, is it's... So wonderful to see that our government is actually focusing on family here and is actually acknowledging that a family is a benefit to our society and one that should be acknowledged by the government itself.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I agree. It's so refreshing to see family come back in the focus. But not everyone agrees with that. Let me play this clip real quickly. Whoopi Goldberg yesterday. Play clip two. I'd like to get your reaction to this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Isn't something better than nothing, I guess?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not in this case.
SPEAKER 11 :
I feel like if Biden proposed this, we would all be saying it's groundbreaking.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, I'm sorry. I don't like the idea that somebody is saying you need to I'm going to pay you to have more kids.
SPEAKER 05 :
Ah, so others are seeing this as just simply saying, I'm going to pay you to have more kids. Your reaction?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Whoopi Goldberg, we all know, is an ardent supporter of abortion. She would rather that the government pay for women to actually kill their unborn children than that the government recognize the beautiful gift that every baby is to our country, the potential that that child has to grow up and impact our nation positively, to... to be a force for good in this world so you know nothing that whoopi's whoopi goldberg says uh should be taken seriously by anyone uh she she doesn't think that thou shalt not kill that's in the ten commandments applies to an unborn child um she she should not be someone that we look to for for her views on frankly any policy
SPEAKER 05 :
And I would just extend that to say the view as a whole. You wonder what their view is that they're looking at. It's certainly not a biblical worldview as a whole. All right, so there are policy changes. I feel confident we are going to see some changes. What are some of the policy changes that the Trump administration should implement maybe beyond this one?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, this is certainly a starting point. And, you know, there are a number of other things that could be done, though. School choice is something that people might not directly connect to this, but being able to choose a school environment for your children where they're raised in your faith and in your own faith and their values are strengthened and they meet others with like minds and and where you too have a community because of that of people who who share similar values to you i think that that is one thing that that could certainly serve to increase the fertility rate in the united states um i think working on legislation to prevent for the pornography industry from attacking targeting and attacking our young children that is something that is something we have to do not only for this but but for our entire country pornography makes a person unable to love others in the way that they're supposed to and so anything that we can do to take away the pornography industry will be a benefit to this country.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Thank you so much, Mary Zock, Director of the Center for Human Dignity here at the Family Research Council. Always great to have you on the program. Thanks so much for your insight on this. One of the issues that for many people probably is going under the radar, but thank you for bringing it to light and keeping us informed. All right, friends, that wraps up this edition of Washington Watch. I want to thank you so much for joining us today. It's always our honor to keep you informed as to what's happening in our country and to do so from a biblical perspective. Have a great day. We'll see you tomorrow here on Washington Watch.
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We've got breaking news. Elon Musk reveals major changes coming to Doge.
SPEAKER 04 :
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Welcome to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110 as everyone kind of piles on today. We have an interesting breaking news item that came out overnight. And this was due to an investor call, is that right, that was happening via Tesla. As we know, Tesla has taken some some hits financially and physically over the last few months due to Elon's involvement, President Trump's administration. And we do know that that has caused some negative impact on his business. now elon musk also has made the statement that soon and we'll get the exact quotes but soon he will be taking a bit of a backseat role in doge making way for new people to take over as he will spend more time focused on his private business as well but this is pretty big because a lot of people have been pushing this and there's obviously going to be a lot of talk of whether this was always the plan he always talked about he wasn't going to be there for very long but i think the
SPEAKER 05 :
idea was first he would be there for a year or maybe two years uh but now we're talking about only a few months uh as doge has really shaken a lot of things up well and to some degree this is necessary under law because he is a special government employee so that is is statutory law he has only a certain amount of time under this category that he is able to be an employee of the government per calendar year. And that's 130 days that he can work for the government while keeping this special status. And really that because he didn't have to divest of his businesses and things that have contracts with the government, this category is created so that someone can come and do work for the government but doesn't have to just completely end their entire business career outside. But it's also per calendar year. So next year, he can be a special government employee for a 365-day period and get a new 130 days. So... He's obviously, we're not at 100 days of the presidency yet. That comes up next week on April 30th. But he's exhausted much of this time. And really what he's saying is twofold. One, Tesla, they announced that their net earnings were down 71% in the quarter.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is not a small dip. That is not an average dip. That is directly correlated, by the way. That means to not only... tariff situation not only a lot of things happening but really what that has to do with is a lot of people i believe my theory is a lot of people who even would support elon musk that would buy a tesla typically are now nervous they don't want their cars destroyed they don't want their family put in danger so how do you combat that it's gonna be tough from a business point of view and look i was at a drive-through this morning with my kids uh getting breakfast and the car in front of us was a tesla and they had a sticker on the back of their car that said I bought this before Elon went crazy. And my children, specifically my son, who is kind of a tech kid, he loves Elon, doesn't really know anything about the controversial side of him, only knows him from what they've learned in school, which is this is the guy from SpaceX. This is the guy from Tesla. This is the guy who's changing the world with a lot of the technology he's doing. And he saw that and he also knows about some of his struggles. And he saw that and he goes, that's really mean. And, you know, he's almost 13 years old. He goes, also, Elon has autism. So you're you're labeling somebody crazy. And we know this is what's happening right now. And that's a big topic of conversation. He is someone who has said he has has this has this issue. And then, yeah, then my daughter chimed in behind me and go, yeah, who else is sending people up to get this? The lost astronauts who have been stranded. Only Elon. She even said sometimes it's good to have some people who are a little crazy. And I think that that's true because you have to have big dreamers. You have to people who can invent and invest and actually spend the money and time to come up with these ideas. Sometimes they work. Sometimes they don't. I think we've seen success with the concept of Doge. Now it's a question of can they keep it going? He actually spoke a bit about this more and more. We'll talk about that when we come back, including he said he's hoping that President Trump will listen to his advice when it comes to lowering the tariffs. Okay, so we know there's a little bit of a division there. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. What do you think about this? 1-800-684-3110. We'll look back. We'll continue this conversation, but we also are just a few days left to have your gifts doubled during our life in Liberty Drive. If you haven't supported the ACLJ, this is a great time to do it, as we are about to go to break for just about a minute. And in that minute, that's a perfect amount of time to do it. Scan the QR code, go to ACLJ.org, make your donation today. Welcome back to Sekulow. Again, Logan Sekulow here. Will Haynes joining us. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem is going to be joining us a little bit later, so you want to make sure you stay tuned for that, as this is America's Holocaust Remembrance Day. We're going to talk about some of the news coming out of Israel, and of course, some of the news that's happening right now on the campuses of elite universities, including Yale. And you may have seen some of that overnight. If not, we'll talk about that Coming up, but we want to continue the discussion about Elon Musk and include here from Elon himself about his now what seems to be role shrinking. at Doge, saying that Doge's work is largely done. We want to play a bite from Elon?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we're going to go and play this. This is actually from that investor call where he was telling the shareholders of Tesla on this call that had just received news of 71% decline in net revenue over the quarter. But this is kind of what laid the pathway. And now we knew that as a special government employee, it wouldn't be something he could do for a full time job forever because of any 365 day period, you can only work 130 days to have this status, to not have to divest of things and to make sure that all the ethics rules are carried out, which regard to if you're a full time government employee, there are much. So this is him framing where he started, and kind of what the future looks like. And there's actually an interesting nugget in here about looking forward as we play this. This is Byte 4 from Elon Musk.
SPEAKER 01 :
Starting probably next month, May, my time allocation to Doge will drop significantly. I'll have to continue doing it for... I think probably the remainder of the president's term, just to make sure that the waste and fraud that we stopped does not come roaring back. I'll be allocating far more of my time to Tesla. And now that the major work of establishing the Department of Government Efficiency is done.
SPEAKER 05 :
So right there, you hear that the major work of establishing the Department of Government Efficiency is done, meaning they have the infrastructure now. They have the team in place. We saw that team in that incredible interview with Brett Baer, which kind of completely destroyed the narrative from the media that these are just 20-somethings with laptops and no experience running around, breaking our government, as the media liked to show off and say that was happening.
SPEAKER 03 :
But they said that like it's a bad thing. I like the idea of having a bunch of 20-somethings with laptops actually going in there getting work done. I don't know. They're passionate. They care about it. They actually want to do this kind of work. Unlike most government employees that get in there and do that. Obviously, that narrative was not accurate, but that narrative never scared me. The narrative that it's young people in tech should not scare you, by the way, because that is who understands what's going on in tech. I have a 13-year-old son who has... surely surpassed my knowledge of what's happening in tech because that's what happens okay it's it's a it's a moment when you get slapped in the face with it by your own child when you realize oh wow i'm the grown-up here who now has not focused on what the growing and changing technology is it's like the people who talk about ai you know they are are so scared of it that they're not utilizing it as a tool in their tool belt, and they're gonna get left behind. And I really believe that. As much as I understand some of the ethical questions that come into play, everyone's using it as a tool in their toolbox. And if you're not, and if you're just saying, I'm not, because I'm a human, I don't deal with this anymore, Well, it'd be like saying you're not using a smartphone. It's like saying that you won't have email on your phone or anything like that. If you're in the tech space, it's ridiculous. Now, that being said, that isn't what was happening with Doge. You had very smart people who were very well experienced in there, including, by the way, the richest man in the world who has created some of the best technology that all of us use on a daily basis. But no, that guy we have to now portray as some sort of crazy loony character, so much so that it does look like And look, I do wish the Trump administration had said this a little bit early on. He has a special position. He can only be here for a handful of months. I know it was talked about, but it wasn't, though, top line.
SPEAKER 05 :
See, I have to push back a little bit because they were. They said he's a special government employee. That's only 130 days. They even talked about him just kind of ending at the end of this period, but the media didn't. The media actually crafted this narrative that this was an oligarch. You see AOC and you see- Bernie Sanders, though, running around saying stop the oligarchy as though he had completely commandeered the government and he owned the United States at this point. And it was always a special government employee position. Doge itself may not go away because it is now within. They actually were very clever. They used a department that was established under the Obamacare law that created this efficiency network and they just expanded the mission and goal of it. So it can remain. And these people that are in these positions that can continue the leadership have a vision within the very specific departments. They are very well accomplished, many of them executives in their own right. So even without Elon there working seven days a week like he has been. him being there and being able to come in a couple times a week. If he reserves a chunk of this year a few times a week, check in, make sure that his guidance in there, or if they have questions, still exist. That's great, but it also... We kind of thought that it was just this first runway here. Now he's telling even the investors at Tesla that he is going to remain probably through the presidency using that special government capacity to be able to help Make sure everything is going within the vision of President Trump wanting to create more efficiency.
SPEAKER 03 :
Once you've built that team, hopefully it can be self-sufficient. You've built a good team. You don't have to necessarily be micromanaging all of this, especially if you're Elon Musk. He did say, like you said in the New York Times, that he'll go back to maybe one or two days a week working on the Doge situation. Now, you are going to have a big group on the left that's going to take this as a win. They're gonna take this as, we got Elon out, he's gone, we've devalued his company by 70%, not devalued the company, but the earnings were below 70%. This is going to be taken that way as a win for the left. And you need to make sure that it doesn't happen because look, it's easy though to find that narrative. That narrative is very simple because it looks like pressure built and Elon left. It looks like dissension within this administration. And look, we know in the first 100, 150, 250 days of a presidency, there is a lot of disruption happening, whether that's internally, whether that's with the staff, whether that who fits into the right positions, people getting hired, fired. It's just what happens. On the Trump administration, though, it's a bit more front and center because you have these, you want to say, quote unquote, celebrity members of the administration of the that have a lot more attention, that already have millions and billions of dollars and millions of social media followers, where typically, let's say this was the original Department of Government Efficiency said that the Obama administration was able to create. Who ran that? Nobody knows. Someone that was unelected, I guarantee you that. Because that's how bureaucracies and agencies work. But because of Elon Musk, it's news. Not that it shouldn't be. He is... Look, and I'm not saying that he is some innocent guy over here. He certainly likes to fire people up. He is certainly a bit of a troll online. But... is a name that everyone knows and has known for a very long time. So whether this was normal that he should be stepping aside here at this point, I think we have to make sure that narrative gets out there as well, because I'll take it as a win.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and here's the two narratives they're pushing right now. One is what we said is that this is from The New York Times. As Mr. Musk moves to spend less time in Washington, it is unclear whether his audacious plan to overhaul the federal bureaucracy will have lasting power. Wall Street Journal, Elon Musk. A controversial role at the White House is expected to diminish in coming weeks. A change that risks undercutting his Department of Government efficiency, but isn't likely to stop its work outright. So one, that's the first narrative you're going to see. Without him there, how will it ever continue? Even though that was always the plan and it was stated. But then the second one is going to be like, well, he didn't also meet his goals. He wanted a trillion dollars return. cut within this period already it's only been hundreds of billions you know why because they sued him every time that they cut something they sued the government and that's why we're involved in multiple of these lawsuits filing briefs there to say let them do the work and instead they're going to try to frame this as a win that he's not that efficient he couldn't cut that much it's like no they they sued him and you've worked in the government
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and you've worked in DC, you understand how things get done. And sometimes they get done at a very frustrating way. Sometimes they do get done in a way that you would never run your business this way. So I'm sure there's also some of Elon Musk going in here. Yes, he wanted to cut a trillion dollars. And if he was running a regular business where you could actually go in and do some of these things, he probably got it done. Probably could have got it done rather quickly. I'm curious his thoughts after being in for a number of months, what it really feels like. Because I think there's a lot of hoopla that goes into running to a campaign, to understand the campaign. And the campaign and the administration are very different things. A campaign is created by this team. But then an administration is not only created by that team, but also has everyone else in the government you've got to rely on and talk to. And you have all of these good and bad checks and balances there, but all the good and bad red tape, mostly bad. So I am curious of his thoughts now being like, maybe it's just, hey, like Rick Grinnell said, I want to be in Washington, D.C. the least amount of time as I can. So phone lines are open for you. I'd love to hear from you. What do you think? 1-800-684-3110. C.C. Heil, or no, sorry, Jeff Balaban will be joining us coming up a little bit later from ACLJ Jerusalem to give you an update on what's going on in Israel and on our college campuses right now. And if we're talking about billions and billions of dollars, of course, we should be talking about those elite universities we'll continue that conversation but also we're gonna have an update on some of our pro-life battles coming up in the next segment including that one where they were telling our nation's military hey watch out for domestic terrorism aka pro-life grandmas we'll be right back Welcome back to Secular. Again, like I said, later on in the show, we're going to be joined by Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem. I'd love to get you on hold right now to take some calls a little bit later in the show as well at 1-800-684-3110. We're going to be taking those towards the end of the show so you can get on hold and stay on hold and we'll get to you a little bit later. Of course, we're still talking about the news coming out of the Department of Government Efficiency. Just to give you a heads up, because I know a lot of people just joined us. We had a little glitch on YouTube and some of the others. Elon Musk has said in his investor call with Tesla, hey, I'm going to be scaling back my work with Doge. It should be wrapping up next month. And now he's saying maybe a day or two a week he'll be working full time on Doge. As Tesla's earnings have taken quite a hit, he needs to focus some more time on Tesla. And like I said earlier, I think that that's something that the American people need to kind of decide what they want to do, because I think a lot of people would have purchased a Tesla, maybe even in support of Elon Musk, if it wasn't for the fact that they took it to such an extreme and the violence started happening so much so that people have to put stickers on their cars saying, you know, I don't support Elon or Elon is crazy or all of those things that now they're having to do to their own vehicles. But also I wanted to draw a little bit of attention to some of the work of the ACLJ and what we're doing. You may have remembered that many years ago at this point now, or maybe a year ago, we uncovered A shocking fact, and we got it confirmed, that they were showing in these sort of presentations to our military personnel training seminars, these slides. And these slides would say, here are terrorist groups to watch out for. And of course, you'll see big, bold ones. Pro-lifers, the National Right to Life, Operation Rescue, people that have the Choose Life license plate. These are the people they need to be worried about. That's who they need to be scared that maybe they may be coming after. Of course, they also threw in there people like PETA and people for the ethical treatment of animals, which, by the way, look, they've been known for disruption. But what I label PETA largely as a terrorist organization. Absolutely not. But of course, they have to label pro-lifers in there. And we found out not only confirmed that it was real, we got a lot more information and now we can do something about it.
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That's right. So at first, when this was brought up, the military kind of said this was not proper vetting for this. We issue an apology. We're not going to continue this process. Particular curriculum and we were one, please, that they were acknowledging it, confirming that it was real and would stop that. But then we, through our FOIA practice here at the ACLJ, were able to get the investigation document. We told you about this last week, and the investigation document showed that the soldiers that were interviewed were very concerned, really, with the way it was presented. Some were saying, no, they were hostile against these groups. They were saying, these are terrorist groups you have to look out for. But the top line, the bottom line up front, bluff, as they call it in military speak, right there, is that really it was just a mistake because it had the heading terrorist groups and the military doesn't believe they're terrorist groups and so it shouldn't have been labeled that way, but not that it shouldn't have been included in the presentation. Well, now that opens up a whole new can of worms, as they say, that when the military said it just wasn't properly vetted, But the investigation is saying something different. We know there's a concern here. So now that we have new leadership, we don't have Secretary Lloyd Austin, who is either at Department of Defense or not at Department of Defense, depending on if he's told the president he's not there for that week. We have new leadership at the Department of Defense. This is Secretary Pete Hegseth. And so what are we doing? Sending a letter directly to him.
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And this says as well to the... And by the way, unlike previous administrations, it's going to get to him. Right.
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We know he's going to see it. Right. So this is going to... Worst case scenario, someone will text it to him. Secretary Hegseth as well as the Secretary of the Army. And it lays out the Army's violation of Operation Rescue's First Amendment rights. Not only are we advocating to generally get this awareness and get this change, but we represent Operation Rescue, which if you show that slide again... They were specifically targeted in this training slide as one of the terrorist groups, Operation Rescue, an organization the ACLJ has stood by and defended legally for decades. And so we bring that up, that the Army has violated their First Amendment rights, and then it goes over kind of the concerns with the original response and then what we found out. So now we're asking the boss, right? to do something about this, both the Secretary of the Army and the Secretary of Defense. And here's what we are asking. As we advise Secretary Wormuth, a statement indicating that some officials failed to properly vet a slide is not enough, especially when considering these unlawful actions have occurred for years. And now, having obtained the investigation file, the situation became much worse, along with the need for rectification. The situation described herein is serious, and it impacts the First Amendment is grave. It injures the right of our client and threatens those Americans to engage in free political advocacy without fear that they will be made a target of the United States Army operations. So when you put it in that context of how grave these violations are, and we're going to someone... who now leads the Department of Defense, who has been trying to get the woke and left ideology out of the military, this is a very good time for our client and for pro-life advocates everywhere that we can see something real change. And we ask for a meaningful and direct apology from the Army. For a public statement or at least one addressed to all trainees that the U.S. military considers pro-life Americans and organizations neither terrorists nor extremists, and that all prior training to the contrary is false. And then we want the Army to be directed that the immediate production of all remaining Army records concerning this subject... be provided to us as well as address Congress's concerns because many members of Congress got on board with this as well by issuing a new statement that rectifies and replaces the prior misleading representations. Now, This isn't normally one that in the past four years you send this and you just hope you make a difference when sending it to the top. To the right person. This is going to the right person. This is going to the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Army.
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I think we're going to get some real answers and we get some real action. I think it's going to happen. And I believe that's because of people like you also have been supporting this cause for so long and have said we are going to stand up for the rights of pro-lifers who are whether they're on the street. you know protesting if you will or even those are just sidewalk counselors the protesters kind of uh still exist but that was more in the 80s now we're talking about people that are there to think to pray to talk to people who are potentially going in uh to abortion clinics and discuss their options trying to give them real options but either way it's free speech and you're on a public sidewalk something like that the aclj has been there for them the whole time or whether they're being targeted by their own nation's military for just having a belief that the unborn should have the chance to be born It's as simple as that. I want to encourage you as we head into break to give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. We're going to head over and talk to Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem in the next segment. And then we're going to take all the calls we can. And a lot of you are commenting right now also about the Elon Musk situation. I encourage you to call in about that. We can keep that conversation going as well. But right now, if you have an opportunity, we only have six days left during our life in Liberty Drive. This is a great time to give. I know that you've heard me say it, maybe ad nauseum if you're a regular listener, that if you're brand new, maybe you've supported this show, maybe you've watched this show for years and you've never made a donation. Maybe you've followed our legal work for years, decades, and you never made a donation. Well, now it's time to do it. I'm going to encourage you. Go to ACLJ.org or scan the QR code on your screen. When it comes to babies and supporting the baby's lives, we're talking about supporting pro-lifers. We're talking about supporting pro-life pregnancy centers that are providing free baby supplies. Things like that to expected mothers. Not just mothers. not just prenatal. We're talking about a lot of these offer postnatal care, a lot of options that they have depending on the servers, and they were trying to be shut down nationwide. There's only six days left to have your gift doubled. We want to be there for them and be there for you. Go to aclj.org. We'll be back in less than a minute. Stay tuned.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Seculo. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. For those just joining us now, we did want to give you a bit of an update of what's going on. Also, President Trump just put out a statement on Truth Social. He's actually having a press conference right now saying that later today, I'll read it to you, later today I'll be meeting with, of all people, he said that, not me, this is word for word, okay? Later today, I'll be meeting with, of all people, Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of The Atlantic and the person responsible for many fictional stories about me, including the made-up hoax on Suckers and Losers and Signalgate, something he was somewhat more successful with, in quotes. Jeffrey is bringing with him Michael Schur and Ashley Parker, not exactly pro-Trump writers either, to put it mildly, exclamation point. The story that they are writing, they have told my representatives, will be entitled The Most Consequential President of This Century. I'm doing this interview out of curiosity, And as a competition with myself, just to see if it's possible for the Atlantic to be truthful. Are they capable of writing a fair story on Trump? The way I look at it, what can be so bad? I won. So I think the big takeaway from that, other than of course, this is president Trump's kind of ridiculous, hilarious over the top writing is he's going to be sitting down and meeting with, and having an interview with Jeffrey Goldberg person that was involved in that whole signal situation with Pete Hexen. But also this also shows again, The narrative of people getting kicked out of the press room and not being talked to, that they're bringing alternate press in, they're bringing podcasts in. Yeah, some of that is true. But it's not like you saw the Biden administration going and having a lot of interviews with people who are unfriendly to them. Right. That was never happening. I barely did interviews to begin with. So now you have a controversial situation and President Trump's going to make news again by jumping in and having this interview with Jeffrey Goldberg. What do you think about this tactic? I want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. Is this smart? Is it smart to always get involved? Is it smart to always make comments? Or you know what? Is it better for people like Jeffrey Goldberg to put out their articles in The Atlantic and probably no one who supports President Trump would read it anyway?
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Yeah. And that is kind of the point as well, is that you bring up the new media issue and how the the old guard, the establishment media, the mainstream media loses their mind over. And they're like, how dare you have someone in the press pool that's wearing a beanie? And this is so ridiculous. But at the end of the day, what President Trump did very well in the last election cycle was understood that if you go to where people are actually watching and listening. They respond well. The differences is they are so self-righteous that many of these magazines and newspapers that they believe they are the only guardian of truth. In reality, they are the only guardian of their bias. And when you see them lose their mind over having new media there, it's like, well, who's going to fact check him? Who's going to go here and there? Where were you fact checking when President Biden was unable to be president? He was unable to run for president. And you had the Jake Tappers of the world say, this is so ridiculous that they're talking about this. He is fit to run. Never better. Can't believe it. And then turn around and writes the book on how it was the greatest cover-up of all time. It's because you don't believe what's right in front of your eyes because of your own bias. Maybe that's why no one's reading you, subscribing to your newspapers, or watching your shows.
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More people are going to be going to see this article now than ever before. I mean, I understand. I don't think I've ever visited the Atlantic's website. I will certainly be reading this because now it's interesting. President Trump just provided probably a lot of ad revenue to the Atlantic. So you got to think about it those ways too. The business decisions here.
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I don't know. I used to be a subscriber. I know this comes to no shock to you because I read lots of things so I can be informed on what I need to talk about. But I continued that subscription way longer than I should have because every year they were like $1 the whole year. You won't even miss a dollar. You can keep getting the Atlantic. And so finally I'm just like, Eh, I need that dollar.
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Not even a dollar. You take that dollar back. Yeah. Put it to something worthwhile. Maybe you want to support the work of the ACLJ with that $1. $1 right now becomes $2. Because we're doing our match right now. That's two years of the Atlantic. Yeah, exactly. Two years of the Atlantic for just $2. Right now, though, I encourage you, go support the work of the ACLJ. We're going to get back. We're going to talk about what we're doing with ACLJ Jerusalem, what's going on in Israel. And I know Israel's in the news right now a lot, specifically in the conservative sphere, as we have seen a turn against Israel. We need to make sure we stand up for them. It's been a hallmark of the ACLJ and will continue to be. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Jeff Balaban's going to be joining us in just a little bit from ACLJ Jerusalem. But before that, I want to take some of your calls. And phone lines are open for you right now. So maybe when we go to Greg here, that's going to influence you to call because we've got a few lines open. This is a perfect time to get on hold. 1-800-684-3110. Everyone likes to be on hold, Will. It's a thing. Let's go to Greg who's calling from Arizona. You're on the air.
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Yeah, this is Greg. I just think you should rename Elon Musk's troops the Musketeers.
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That's pretty funny, Greg. I think that there's a lot of people who do find, obviously, his candor, the way he speaks and all that, sometimes controversial, for sure. Has he put his foot in his mouth a few times? Absolutely. Are we willing to accept that? from people who are providing so much to this country and so much to the world? I think the answer is probably yes. When you have something like Starlink, when you have SpaceX, when you have Tesla, when you've had PayPal and eBay, all of these things that he has been involved in over so many years as those companies have been acquired and a lot of those foundings, if you look at who originally started them, a lot of them were Elon and Peter Thiel and some of these other people that are now in this sort of conservative space. Stuff that people use every day. The electric car. controversial. A lot of people still don't like it. But you know what? He was the leading name in it for how many years? You always knew Tesla was it. That is, if you were going to get an electric car for many years, that was your really only option. And everyone else followed suit. SpaceX, same thing. SpaceX had to essentially take over NASA in terms of the way that they get people to space. Where are they able to do it? Sure, you have an Amazon version, a Jeff Bezos version with your Katy Perry's and your William Shatner's going up to space for a few minutes. All that's great. I'm glad all that exists, by the way. I'm glad space exploration is still on the horizon. However, however, they want to take him down because they don't like really the way he speaks.
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Right. And you mentioned someone putting their foot in their mouth and they make a big deal about it. That's called Washington. I mean, every single politician says something that they end up regretting. That's the nature of being in front of cameras all the time. And you know what? Both sides capitalize on it. That is kind of the nature of the game. But what is different here is that they have taken statements they don't like or actions they don't like and made him into such a villain that That you're seeing literal terrorism against his business. You are seeing people firebomb, randomly attack strangers by keying their cars or yelling at them for owning a vehicle. You are seeing dealerships absolutely terrorized with Molotov cocktails and things of that nature. That's where it's different. Yeah. attacking people for saying something that they regret or saying something inartfully that is the nature of washington we call it out when we see the democrats or the left do it and say things that they regret even many times people on the right but then vice versa they're doing that all the time but what it shouldn't lead to is violence against them
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Yeah, I don't want to act like we are condoning a lot of the rhetoric he said. He has said some very controversial things. Do I think they're taken out of context? Do I think sometimes that they are controversial and then he has to walk them back? Sure. But when you're talking about you call him a Nazi, you start spraying swastikas. on teslas but on the other hand we know what's going on on our college campuses we see what's actually happening real anti-semitism that is happening uh in at yale this is happening right now again you may think this is old news something you saw last year logan you're playing a replay but no this is happening right now on our college campuses that's right and as we look at this you see the the
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way that language has been weaponized once again against the Jewish people. And you see this as a scenario that is growing, is boiling over. You see the lawsuit with that Harvard has now put against the Trump administration saying you can't take our funding away. But once again, this is rhetoric from the left. that is going to a level of leading to violence and leading to protesting and pushing back and not just protesting, it's leading to violence.
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Let's take another phone call. Let's go to line one. Josh is calling from Oklahoma. On line one, Josh, you're on the air.
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Yes, sir. I was just calling in regards to the situation with the Army having the training videos labeling the pro-life people As far as I was concerned, I was in the Army in the early 2000s, and there was an oversight regulation that kept U.S. military personnel from collecting on U.S. citizens. And there's also an Army regulation that covers posse comitatus. And that is another thing that keeps military from using any type of civilian law enforcement.
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Josh, it's great questions because, yes, you are 100% correct on what you're talking about as far as the military being able to do action against the United States. The part of this training... was for the emergency services of the base. It was basically protecting against potential attacks against that base. And much of the training was what they should receive, because what are US bases a target for? Jihadi terrorism against them. So those people that are in the emergency services and that are there providing the base security on US soil, They're not going out and doing this issue with like sending the troops to go investigate terrorism or to look at Americans. The entire point was what to be aware of, what to know for to keep the base safe. You've seen Islamic terror against U.S. bases in the United States. You've seen Fort Hood. You've seen situations like this. That is an appropriate training. But for some reason, swept up into this as if pro-life Americans are going and attacking military bases.
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And we're talking about, again, they're labeling things like, do you have the license plate from your DMV that says choose life on it? And I've met a lot of people who have that. Those are not the most militant people in the world. They don't seem like pretty violent people who have that. There's a lot of you watching right now on social media, watching on YouTube and Rumble and Facebook. If you're watching on YouTube and you've never seen us before and you're brand new here, you may hear me in just a minute say support the work of the ACLJ, do all that. Well, if you're brand new and this is new to you, we know only about 50% of the people that watch actually subscribe. I'm going to ask you to subscribe to the channel right now. Over 470,000 of you have subscribed on YouTube alone, 200,000 plus on Rumble. So right now, if you could, hit that subscribe button. While you're there, hit the thumbs up. Know how much we'd appreciate it and know how much that does to spread this message out there around the world. We always hear from people who talk about the work and we see it, but now we are actually able to get into action. The ACLJ is more than just a broadcast. But it is a big part of the entire mission that we have here is to spread the word as well. So you got to be advocating not only in the courtrooms, but also for the hearts and minds of people in the court of public opinion. Right now, though, phone lines are open for you, too, because there are thousands of you just alone watching millions listening on radio and throughout the country, throughout the world. Maybe you haven't decided to give us a call. Maybe you have some thoughts. I'd love to hear from you. I know Will would love to hear from you. If you can do it right now, I encourage you. 1-800-684-3110. We got a lot of lines open right now. It's a great time to call.
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And we will be joined by Jeff Balaban in this next segment where we are going to discuss this issue with what's happening at Yale. He is a Yale alumni. He has been in discussions all morning with what's happening because, as you saw, there was an encampment started on the campus, a new one. And there was a pretty crazy video where even Jewish students were trying to walk through campus and they said, you have to go around. And they're like, but you're letting other people go through. No, you have to go around. And as a Yale alumni, he's been talking with other alumni and other people about the leadership and what's going on there. As we see... All of these Ivy League institutions with such a spotlight on them, are they doing the right thing? Are they making the proper changes to keep people safe? Or are they just trying to pump the brakes enough to not be the worst of the Ivy Leagues?
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Yeah, and that's what's happening right now. Again, this is happening today. This wasn't something you heard from a year ago. It's not going to be covered as much on the mainstream media because you know what? They kind of got over it. Also... You're seeing some pretty disturbing attacks on people that support Israel right now, even from the conservative media, maybe the alt-right media, if you will. And I understand there's conflicts there. People have disagreements. And I have no problem not calling for anyone to be censored. I'm not calling for anyone to be shut down. But I do think that that is strategically planned, and we have to make sure that the ACLJ, and we're still there, and other people are still there, supporting the state of Israel, still supporting the Jewish people in this country, and we can't do that without you. It's why we have an ACLJ Jerusalem. Understand that. This is the ACLJ Jerusalem. That is the American Center for Law and Justice in Israel. We have a European center, but it's different. European center, we are there to fight for the rights of Europeans that are like-minded. who also need our support, whether that's the UN or the European Union, that the Jerusalem office is specifically for American values and for American support of those in Israel. So I encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ as we head to a break. Jeff Balaban is going to be joining us from ACLJ Jerusalem. He runs it. It would be great to have him on the broadcast today. But I'm going to encourage you right now to spend some time. Give us a call if you would like to. But really, support the work of the ACLJ. There's only six days left to have your gifts doubled. Please give now. Go to ACLJ.org. Scan the QR code that's on your screen. We have immense legal work coming, whether that's in Israel or whether that is to help save the lives of unborn babies that require significant resources. We are battling the juggernaut of the abortion industry always. It's like a David and Goliath story. You can be a part of it. Right now, take a second, consider supporting the ACLJ right now. Go to ACLJ.org, scan the QR code that's on your screen. We'll be right back with more.
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Welcome back to Seculo. We are joined in this final segment of the broadcast by Jeff Balaban of ACLJ Jerusalem. And Jeff, this is something you and I, we talked on the phone last night about. We're at this point where this could almost be seen as a rerun to many people if they're just tuning in because... You're seeing a new encampment pop up on an Ivy League university and imagery that is literally chilling. When I watched the video of the one, what the encampment looks like. But then also there's a video I described earlier where a Jewish student that has a yarmulke on goes up and is trying to cross campus. They are told by people that are clad in a keffiyeh, hiding their face, symbols of terrorism. And they're told, you have to go around. He's like, I'm a student here. I can't walk through campus. You're letting other people walk through campus. They say, no, you have to go around. Because he is visually wearing a Jewish religious piece of clothing. They are targeting someone for being Jewish on campus. But you're an alumni of Yale. And we've had you want to talk about this topic often with many of these schools. But this one has to hit a little bit differently when you're seeing it. Especially after all the progress that at least the administration has made pushing back in just these 90 some odd days, you're seeing a new encampment pop up on your former alma mater.
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Right, William. Sure, this is painful and honestly not surprising. I will tell you that there has been a raging debate that I am part of internally, just in terms of Yale alumni and current students. as to whether, for example, Yale took a step recently where they said that Yalies for Palestine will no longer be considered a valid group on campus. But specifically because Yalies for Palestine had violated directives repeatedly and were told and cautioned related to keeping the peace there. There's the student, Netanyahu, who's been on air now. And the only reason they seem to be targeting him for this while they chant genocidal slogans about the Jews, right? Wearing a keffiyeh, which is the essential equivalent to a swastika as a symbol that means violence against Jews, genocide of the Jews. And they lock there, self-righteously chanting on the Yale campus, where this fellow student can't walk through because he's wearing a yarmulke. Now, they don't know what his views are about Israel. He's not an Israeli. Even if he were, this would be inappropriate. This is simply targeting a Jew for being a Jew. And it is very painful. The fact that Yale took a step of saying this group will no longer be permitted and disbanding, there's a debate. Are they doing the righteous thing? Well, if they are, then there's a whole litany of things that they have been doing which is not righteous that we have not seen any evidence they're trying to fix. Or are they just nervous in the way when, you know, in the middle of beating someone in a dark alley and all of a sudden the police lights start flashing up the alley and you run? Or maybe it's somewhere in between. This is the debate. To me, they continue to have, and this is not so public, but they hired someone for the chaplain's office as a Muslim chaplain to work directly with students who had shortly before that, post-October 7th, signed onto a letter calling for genocide openly. And Yale has refused to let her go. There's a professor on campus who supports Hamas openly and vocally, remains there, coddled there. This encampment didn't spring up overnight. This encampment is a result of years and years of normalizing this kind of Jew hatred. And so there needs to be a more fundamental change. And frankly, if their reaction is because the Trump administration and the new Washington Congress are willing to take, you know, hold them to account, then good, they should. I will set out, just sorry, end this little monologue with this, because this is part of the internal debate. People may want to be loyal to Yale, but the Yale motto, people should know, is for God, for country, and for Yale. And when Yale has lost God and country, then it's no longer the Yale that should be supported. And in fact, to be brought back to its greatness, because it was once great. And there are still great students and faculty there. We need to be reminded that there have to be things first, like God and country.
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And Jeff, you did mention that, that they're taking away the recognition of the Yalies for Palestine, which is the Students for Justice in Palestine chapter on Yale. We know the issues with that group on many college campuses. They are a proxy for Hamas. They, in some cases, had what seemed to be foreknowledge of the October 7th attack when they restarted social media accounts and said, stay tuned, we're back. this isn't a good group and that this is who organizes on campus. But the right step here of taking their charter away from the school, that is a positive thing. But kind of the debate we're talking about, and obviously is going on on these college campuses as well, is that it almost seems to me, and this is my opinion, that the Ivy League schools right now, instead of trying to protect their Jewish students and have real academic freedom and open debate are just trying to pump the brakes enough to not be the worst of the Ivy League schools. Harvard obviously has the big target on their back right now because of the $2 billion in funding. Columbia pumped the brakes enough so that they didn't lose $400 million in funding. Yale, let's get rid of students for Justin and Palestine on campus so we're not worse than Harvard right now. It's this race to be second. If we can be just bad enough to be the second most anti-Semitic school, we're good because then the spotlight's not on us. Now, that's the cynic in me, but that's what it feels like because no one's really doing real reform on these campuses to protect people.
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But William, I'd say that's the realist in you. By the way, I'll mention the institutions you mentioned, they're all personal to me. I have a son who went to, I went to Yale Law School. I have a son who went to Columbia Law School. I have a son-in-law who went to Harvard Law School. So these are all like directly in the family institutions where, and of course there were problems even when I was there a long time ago, but there were not nearly as, I mean, what's happened since October 7th boggles the mind, but these problems have been mounting over time. I tend to agree with you. I think there are certainly people of goodwill in the Yale administration. But I think overall, and we've seen this at ACLJ, that's the thing. At the ACLJ, because we represented students and faculty at so many of these institutions, we see sometimes it is a matter of guiding them and helping them because there's ignorance. They don't understand that what they're doing is wrong, whether it's the way they're treating Jews or Christians. Sometimes it is worse than that. Sometimes it's intentional because there's another set of ideas that have been... uh pushed through it's a very complex situation here but i personally tend to agree that what we're seeing here is a reaction and by the way to be not as horrible as other horrible institutions is not a standard that we should accept this is all of this behavior all of this is so far beyond the peril of what should be acceptable behavior institutions like this in america and institutions that take government money that taxpayers support uh that that I believe that, yes, we should acknowledge when these institutions make good decisions, and we should explain to them how far they still have to go to get anywhere near normal, anywhere near decent and moral, and anywhere near acceptable.
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Jeff, thank you so much for joining us today. And we will not stop shedding light on this and pointing out the evil that's happening on these college campuses. And also know that our work goes on behind the scenes on this as well. Jeff, while being ACLJ Jerusalem director, also helps with things at home, these domestic issues, as we look to help students get their education and not have their lives at risk. I mean, that is what it comes down to. And so that work is very important. And when you support ACLJ, you support all of those efforts as well. But we also are sending that letter to the Secretary of Defense today about how the Army was targeting pro-life Americans with their training, calling them terrorists. We're not going to let that stand either. We have a lot going on and we can't do any of it without you. Go to ACLJ.org. Have your donation doubled as this life and liberty drive comes to a close in just a few days. We need your support. ACLJ.org.
Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. What is the proper role of government? My fellow Liberty Toastmasters share their thoughts on understanding the Constitutional role of government to define, protect, and enforce individual rights through the establishment of rule of law. Professor Kurt Gerwitz explains his perspective on AI after reading “AGI 2027,” a month by month prediction of the rapidly changing future of AI. Additionally, Gerwitz discusses our Legacy: what we leave behind. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560 AM every Monday thru Friday, 6-8 AM MST. You can listen to the live stream by going to www.klzradio.com
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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it's not.
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Today's current opinions and ideas.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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much for joining us you're each treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this day in history and thank you to the team that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy thursday producer joe Happy Thursday, Kim. And I am so pleased to have in studio with me my friend Carol Baker. She is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. Liberty Toastmasters Day on the show. It's going to be fantastic. Great to have you here.
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It's good to be here. Good to be here and introduce our friends when they have a chance to call in later.
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Yep. So that'll be in the third and fourth segment. So in the spirit of Liberty Toastmasters, I've got a word of the day.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, good for you.
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And it is, I think you're going to like this. Okay. Pugnacious.
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Tell me about pugnacious.
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Pugnacious is P-U-G-N-A-C-I-O-U-S. It could be combative in nature, belligerent, disposed to fight, inclined to fighting, quarrelsome fighting. I would say that the Democrats down at the statehouse are somewhat pugnacious. What do you think?
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Yes, and many times we find that characteristic among people who are passionate about what they're doing. And I really strive to not have a reputation for being pugnacious.
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I don't think I would think that I wouldn't put the name Carol Baker and pugnacious in the same sentence.
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Good. I work at that. Thank you.
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I have had times, though, where somebody could call me pugnacious.
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It's in there. There's a temptation.
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But what a fun word to use today.
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It is fun.
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And again, Eric always wants me to spell it out. P-U-G-N-A-C-I-O-U-S. Pugnacious. Our quote of the day, because we're going to be talking about the Constitution with our fellow Toastmasters, I was trying to get some Constitution quotes, and I ended up with Calvin Coolidge. Okay. Okay, and Calvin Coolidge was the 30th president of the United States, and he was a Republican lawyer for Massachusetts, and he was— He had a reputation as a small government conservative with a taciturn personality and dry sense of humor. It earned him the nickname of Silent Cal. And I'm trying to think of this story now about him. This is how I remember this story, so this may not be exact. But a socialite said that she had a bet with someone. that she could get him to say, I think, only two words or something like that. And the other person said that they get him to say more. And she said, so what do you say to that? And he says, you win. but anyway uh this is a quote and also lincoln has said something very similar to this says don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong i think that is such a great quote so that's not new huh that's not new did you think it was it sounds like it sounds like it's been around a while now Yeah. I think actually maybe there's something even biblical.
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In human nature.
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Yeah, I think so. So, Carol, it's been a busy week. On Monday night was the Colorado Union of Taxpayer Board meeting. And I tell you, this group that I am working with, they are so impressive. They're all volunteers, and we have been watching legislation down at the statehouse. We have basically a couple of weeks left, and... Unfortunately, we've got a little A little some challenges with some of the Republicans down at the State House, not really voting for Republican principles. And we're going to be talking about that here over the next few days. I got a call last night, and so I don't quite understand. It was regarding a spending bill. And so I said, let's give this 24 hours before I talk about it on the show, because I really want to get my brain around it. But it's apparently five Republicans broke and voted with the Democrats on this. This is a problem. I know that we're talking about unity. And the unity really is Coloradans need to come together to get government back in its proper role. And we've got, there's not really much good that these Democrats are doing down at the State House. So to have Republicans break and vote with them is a real challenge. And part of it's been even leadership.
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And this is something I've come to learn is that so much happens at committee level before it gets to the floor. And I guess I'm just kind of learning this last session and this session is that there are bills near the end, about the last month of the four-month session, that they start talking about finance bills.
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The long bill, yeah.
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Right. So you almost wonder if some of these people have been poising for position for three months just waiting for this.
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I think they have.
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There's a lot for us to keep an eye on because these decisions affect all of us.
SPEAKER 21 :
Right. And then there's two bills regarding elections that people are very concerned about as well. House Bill, I think, 1315 and House Bill 1319. And I hope to have somebody on to talk about that tomorrow as well.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, that would be good. I will be sure and listen.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. And because that would change the number of precinct people. I think it's 1315. I'll have to would change the number of precinct people, PCPs from two to four. And my understanding is Republicans are having a heck of a time even getting to PCPs. But what that means is, is then very possibly people that want to control elections could stack the deck.
SPEAKER 16 :
Don't even get me started. Really? That's right. Yeah, because you're really involved in all that stuff, aren't you? Yes, at the local level. Which is important. Yes. And I think there are people who would like to change rules to accomplish another purpose. And just, yeah.
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Apparently. So we need to keep an eye on that as well. Absolutely. And Carol, I really work diligently to stay on the issues and try to stay out of the personalities. But these are issues that we have to talk about. And unfortunately, when we've got Republicans breaking to go with the Democrats, we're going to have to talk about it.
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Well, I think that goes through kind of a cycle, though, around some of the meeting times and some of the primaries and things like this that I see more importance or more focus on personalities and people. And then give it a couple of weeks and that seems to settle down. For instance, anytime there's a June primary and there's factions talking about this issue. candidate or another and then in a few weeks time after one has been selected then it settled down it does settle back down and folks kind of come behind and because i've seen that pattern there are times when i feel like let it go for just a little bit if this is a typical time for this when it's not a typical time and they're still beating up on each other That's a problem. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, and there is something regarding politics and people do get into the personalities, but we've got to stay to the issue because we are losing Colorado is the problem.
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And you're a warrior who fights this day after day, all year long, all seasons. You're not here just for the popular part where everybody else is paying attention. So yes, pay attention to the issues because the people seem to come and go.
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Yeah. So listen to the show and you will learn so much. So several things I want to get into. Well, I was talking about my week. So cut board meeting. And let me give you the names of these people because if you see them out there, say thank you. They're all volunteers. And let's see, we have, let me just get back with you. As of right now, Carol, there's been 715 bills or resolutions that have been proposed down there. We have taken positions on 249 of those. And so that means that the team has read them, they've analyzed them, and we're looking at things regarding protecting the taxpayer, education, parental rights, property rights, and protecting Tabor. So those are things that we do, but this group, Steve Dorman, Greg Golanski, Russ Hoss, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. I almost sneezed. I don't know if I've ever sneezed on air before. I saw the facial expression coming on. And we're going to talk with Rob Knuth in this next hour. And so that was Monday night. On Tuesday night, Ben Williams, one of our new sponsors, listener, He had organized something with his church where we presented regarding CUT. And then Linda White and Steve McKenna with Grandparents for Kids presented. And then Amy Everett with Colorado Praise presented. And so that was Tuesday night. Great, a great meeting. And then last night, I was at a fundraiser for Danielle Cherinsky Foundation. who is running for city council again in Aurora. I had not ever heard the whole story. And Cindy Romero was the woman who she got out of that gang-infested apartment building. Yes. She also spoke. I was impressed, Carol.
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I'm not surprised. It has been an impressive story that I've been following along, yes.
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Yeah, and so it's been a busy week. And so I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. It is because of all of you and our sponsors that we are on the air because we are an independent voice on an independent station. So be sure and check out the website. That's kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're over there. That comes out on Sundays. I know you always take a look at that, Carol, so you know who's coming on the show.
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Right.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the text line is 720-605-0647. And would certainly love to have you text. I want to hear from you. There's a lot going on out there. And in studio with me is my friend Carol Baker. And she is the president of the Liberty Toastmasters Denver. And so we're going to be talking with our buddies here in a little bit. That's right. It's one of our favorite things to do is just do the little short segment speaking. Yes. And speaking of a short speaking, we have five bills that we'll see if we can get through all of them with my colleague, Rob Knuth. He is the vice president of CUT, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And we've got him on the line. Rob Knuth, welcome to the show. Hello.
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Thank you, Kim. Good morning. Good to be with you.
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Good to have you. And shall we just well, first of all, I want to say thank you to this team. And we had our board meeting on Monday night. What an amazing group of people. Rob Knuth.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. Well, it's almost sad because we're we have so much fun and it's so serious. But I guess you have to have fun when you're dealing with all this nonsense.
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Yeah, it is, and nonsense it is. So let's jump right in here. You selected five different bills that CUT, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, has taken positions on. We would really recommend that people join us. It's only $25 a year. You will get our weekly email that goes out to the legislators and the governor. We really want to reclaim our state, but the first thing is you need to know what's going on, and CUT is an excellent tool for people to have in their toolbox, Rob.
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It is. It is. I think a lot of people in the general public don't realize the impact they could have by joining up with us, and everybody in the state, really any taxpayer, should have an interest in what we do, and it'd be great if a majority would join us, and we could really have some WHIP AT THE STATE HOUSE EVEN WITH THE CURRENT REGIME THAT'S IN PLACE.
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Well, and I know that we're making a difference. Now, there's a lot of work to do, but we're making a difference. So let's jump in here. The first one that you selected, Rob, was House Bill 1328 to implement recommendations for Direct Care Worker Stabilization Board. The sponsors on this are Representative Monica Duran and Emily Sirota, both Democrats, and Senator Jesse Danielson and Senator Jeff Bridges. So what should people know about 1328?
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Well, when you get into the details, as the old saying goes, the devil's in the details. Well, the consensus of the majority of us on the board was that it's government interference, more micromanaging in the private sector. Of course, some of the verbiage in the bill sounds favorable that we would employ. In fact, one of our board members who happens to be in and out of these situations a lot in his line of work, felt inclined to support it, hoping that it would be an improvement from what he sees when he has personal experience in going in and out of these care facilities, because a lot of them, and I've been in them over the years, and some of them are kind of sad, but we feel like we need to get more involvement from the private sector, the people that are stakeholders, the children that are maybe that are looking after elderly parents or whatever, need to work with the private sector a little more, be a little more engaged rather than the government coming in and mandating because it's just, once the government gets involved, it's just across the board forever. Everybody, there's no exceptions and considerations at a local level or in an individual situation. And so it does mandate quite an increase in pay too, which would affect the private entities and their cost.
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Right. And normally when government gets involved, the price goes up, the quality goes down and the supply becomes limited. And I think we could see that with this.
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Yeah, that's the concern. That's a concern. And we know that there's a lot of room for improvement in that industry, as there is in a lot of industries. But we just hate to see the government coming in with their heavy handed approach.
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Absolutely. So, again, and people can find this analysis on our website as well. What's the next one that you wanted to talk about?
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Well, the next one we had pulled up, taken them in order of what we'd reviewed was Senate Bill 026, and that is – OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CONCERNING TAX POLICY. AND I WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING. IT SEEMS RATHER INOCULOUS ENOUGH. SOME OF THESE ALMOST SEEM LIKE HOUSEKEEPING. BUT WHEN YOU GET DOWN INTO THE SECTION OF THE BILL, SEVERAL SENTENCES DOWN, THEY'RE REALLY, IT'S KIND OF A HOLD OVER OF THE EMPHASIS ON GREEN NEW DEAL. AND IT'S KIND OF PICKING CERTAIN AREAS OVER OTHERS. THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS. IT'S KIND OF THE GOVERNMENT GETTING INVOLVED AT A MICRO LEVEL. Especially when you get into the mission from lawn equipment, income tax credit, they're wanting to extend that, but then they want to lower some of the others, income tax credits that affect the rural communities, especially like fuel storage for farmers, etc.
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And the sponsors on that are Senator Kyle Mullica, Representative Bob Marshall, and Representative Junie Joseph. And that's Senate Bill 25026, adjusting certain tax expenditures. Like you say, it may sound a little innocuous, but then you get into the details and it's a real problem. So we are a no on that as well. At cut, what's the next bill that should be on people's radar?
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Well, the next one we had going in order is Senate Bill 293. That's a joint budget committee situation. The bill requires the state treasurer transfer the following amounts from the license plate cash fund on June 30th of this year, so just in a couple months, 40% of the unexpended and unencumbered balance of the fund to the general fund. So they're looking to pull more money out of what is already designated to go into kind of a slush fund deal to try to address that. There are heavy expenditures in being working outside of the state budget. And so we're opposed to that.
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It could be considered, I think, raiding some of these cash funds from what I've seen. And the prime sponsors on that are Democrat Senator Jeff Bridges, Republican Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer, Representative Shannon Byrd and Emily Sirota, both representatives, Democrats. And one of our listeners always says, let people know who are sponsoring these bills. And so I think that's important, Rob.
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Yeah, no, I agree. You're right, Kim, and thank you for picking up on that. Next one, Senate Bill 295, and that one is another joint budget committee situation dealing with the whole money received from firearm and ammunition excise tax from Proposition KK for certain behavioral health-related purposes. And then they want, again, to get into where they move the money around instead of from where it's designated. in the Proposition KK. They want to move it around to where they would like to put it, use it, plug it in other places. And your term of rating really is rather apropos on that one, especially.
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And that's $2.95. And the sponsors are all Democrats, Senator Judy Emma Bile, Jeff Bridges, Senator, Representative Shannon Byrd, and Representative Emily Sirota. Okay, what's our last one, Rob Knuth, that you wanted to talk about?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, actually, actually, Well, actually, we did have Barb Kirkmeyer again on that. She kind of likes to work with them a little bit. Oh. We did have one Republican in on that one. When I looked last night to do the final adjustments, yes, she's got her name attached to it.
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Okay. Okay.
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Final one was the Senate resolution on democracy. And, uh, this is concerning the support of democracy, which is always a wonderful thing to do. So it's about six pages of the whereases and the presidential election, et cetera, et cetera. So it's the Democrats in our state wanting to buck the concerns of a lot of us that we have legitimate concerns about election integrity and the president Trump in the current DOJ wanting to get involved in examining certain things. And, uh, This purpose of this resolution seems to be to shut down any challenge to the integrity of Colorado elections. Instead of encouraging examination and correction of potential problems in our election system, it is a very partisan attempt to block any federal actions to improve election systems and integrity. We should be inviting transparency in our voting procedures and systems not blocking it, was our consensus.
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You think, Rob Knuth?
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Well, it's a little bit too apparent. But these days you have to deal with the apparent things, and you can't take anything for granted with what we're up against.
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And that is a Senate Resolution 25010. The sponsor on this is Senator Janice Marchman. And it's important for people to understand that actually democracy can devolve into mob rule. And so we are a constitutional republic that has been democratically elected. And it's important that people understand that. But democracy could be, you could have a room full of people and you could vote. You could say everybody with red hair has to pay more taxes than somebody else. If 51% vote for that, then that's democracy. Our founders realized that we needed to make sure that we protected the minority. In this case, my example would be the red-haired person. And that is why we have a constitutional republic, Rob.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, it is. It is, Kim. And there again, we're just constantly working on this. So thank goodness our legislators are capped with their...
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ability to do damage to only several months otherwise we'd have a real big job on our hands the problem rob though that i'm learning as we're looking at these things through cut colorado union of taxpayers is that they then are then giving power to boards and commissions to go out and do a lot of this other kind of dirty work when they're not in session so that's why it's so important that we keep an eye on them
SPEAKER 09 :
Indeed, Kim, it is. It is indeed. And thank you for all that you do by, you know, making people aware of what Colorado Union of Taxpayers is trying to do and what our mission is. And that it's been for 49 years since 1976. And so we appreciate all you're doing to help and to get the word out for us, Kim. Thank you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Right back at you, Rob Knuth. I really appreciate it. So thank you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, you're welcome. Have a great rest of your day.
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Boy, he was efficient, Carol Baker. He got right to it. You can tell he's had it on his mind. And again, you can get a lot of information by going to our website. And please join us. We would really appreciate that as well. And I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation is going to have their second annual golf tournament on May 15th. May 15th is actually right around the corner. Next week is May, I think. It's hard to believe. Yeah, time flies when you're having fun.
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When you're having fun.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Carol Baker, one thing I didn't mention regarding cut is we invested and created something called Cut Engaged. And we are selecting certain bills that you can very easily click on it and you can either just – agree affirm with what kind of said about a particular bill or you can add in some of your own commentary you just hit send and it'll go directly to the bill the prime sponsors of the bill you can also add in your own state senator and your own representative as well So yesterday I put a challenge out. We have four bills right now. Let's see, 257, Senate Bill 257, modifying general fund transfers to the state highway fund. So taking money away from our roads and bridges. House Bill 1215, redistribution of the lottery fund. So moving things around on that. 1312, this is that really bad transgender bill. And if you're concerned about it, you can make your voice heard by just going to cut And then at the top, cut engaged and then clicking on that bill. And then the other one is 1023, which is this lawsuit on Tabor. So the challenge was, is how fast could you go through and send these emails to each of the legislators? And so Ben, one of our listeners, yesterday morning did it in one minute and 51 seconds. See if you can beat that. I'm gonna give it a try. Are you gonna give it a try? I'll let you know. Let me know. And if any of you are doing that, text me 720-605-0647. Let me know how fast you were able to weigh in on these bills. All right. Pretty darn cool.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's on.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, let's get to our buddies here.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. We have speakers from Liberty Toastmasters Clubs that have talked about us. a topic that we bring up quite regularly. It's kind of wordy here, but it's understanding the constitutional role of government, and it's to define and protect and enforce individual rights through the establishment of the rule of law. It's kind of wordy, but that is something we discuss quite a bit. I'd like to bring our first speaker today to talk about that, Rick Rome. Good morning.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, thank you, Carol. Kim? I remember several years ago I went to a presentation on water rights and it was put on by this very lovely young paralegal and the topic had to do with rain barrels. And she was talking about how she credentialed herself by knowing the guy who wrote the law, basically it's a hearsay type of a credentialing. And she got into this dissertation about how rain barrels are not technically illegal in Colorado. And at this point, she really needed to understand that Toastmaster lessons and know your audience because all these architects in the room started fidgeting in their chairs and whispering and husk bushes. I'm putting rain barrels on my project and I'm putting a cistern on my school and everybody's getting really excited about this. And she could see quickly the room was getting away from her. And finally, when she realized she was issuing a legal opinion, she said, whoa, whoa, whoa, trying to reel the crowd back in. Some kind soul, I promise you it wasn't me, let her off the hook and let the group know that it was actually an opinion out of the state engineer's office about the legality and the use of rain barrels. And it has to do with detention time, all these kinds of things. I like this story because it illustrates a couple of points. The first thing it does, it kind of draws that distinction between what is law and what is actually resolution or opinion. or board authorities, you've mentioned it earlier, and all these boards going out talking about taxes. And there's a fundamental misunderstanding about that, I think, in the community, because clearly you could see it from the crowd's behavior that they didn't understand what it was that they were dealing with. Understanding that, let's just deal with the method of recourse, whether it's through law, ordinance, or rule. It seems like the left takes all paths through the judiciary, and I think that we really need to change that because that is a majority rule goes to sue. It's a very sad state of affairs. Other than that, there's really not a whole lot of recourse that we have to bring this back in line. And we're witnessing it actually in a larger context with the Doge Group, where as soon as you start to strike at the machine, the machine eventually strikes back in some of the most profound and hideous ways. So we have a challenge ahead of us, Kim, and thank you for all that work on cut because it is vitally important to what we're doing right now.
SPEAKER 21 :
well thank you rick rome and we will continue to do that and then uh... also we just i'll just interject here that we have just about raise the sixty thousand dollars for the appeal for holly case and sean smith and ash at uh... regarding uh... getting their legal fees they they were sued by three ngos that was uh... uh... let's see me familiar voter i think it is the n double a c p in legal women voters And they ended up, the defendants, they actually won their case. And so they were thinking that they'd get their legal fees paid for because it was very expensive. And there is a rule, a court ruling called Christiansburg, that says even if an NGO sues you, that you can't recoup your legal expenses. And so they are appealing that. They needed money for that. We've just about raised all of that. Thank you to all of you out there. and this really, I think, could be huge, Rick Rome, regarding maybe taking the fizzle out of some of the stuff that these out-of-control NGOs are doing.
SPEAKER 14 :
It might help if they had to pay their own way.
SPEAKER 21 :
Absolutely, Rick Rome. So, hey, Rick, keep up the great work. We'll talk soon.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thanks, Kim. Thanks, Carol.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sure enough, one of our regular callers is someone I enjoy hearing from, and that is Greg Morrissey.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good morning. How are we doing, ladies?
SPEAKER 21 :
We are well. Just fine. And I know you love this Constitution, Greg Morrissey.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, I do. And I've got to talk about everyone needs to know the Constitution now more than ever.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I think one of the best ways to get to know it is go to Hillsdale College. They have a three-CD set you can purchase for your education on the Constitution. Get to know the Constitution. And if you're like me, go attend your local city hall meetings. I went to a water board meeting. Go and speak to those people and get to know exactly how the politics work. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the press doesn't tell you what's going on. Until you get there, build relationships, understand people, have that Constitution running in the back of your mind to understand the whole process, and you can make that difference.
SPEAKER 21 :
So share with us a success story for you, Greg.
SPEAKER 11 :
The success story I've had here with, because I live in Longmont and I go to the Longmont City Council meeting, the things that I found out what was going on and affecting us in the city, it wasn't being reported. And then I tell everyone, if you want to know what's going on, you want to know how actually politics work, a great way to know that is to get involved with your local city council. Go to those city council meetings. I speak up at city council meetings all the time. And sometimes it's good to just sit there and listen at how those bills are coming out, how they're going to affect your budget, how that affects the quality of life in your town.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, and we talk about government is local and very few people go to these city council meetings. So this is it is very important. And I love the other thing that you do is is you're not adversarial. You are encouraging relationship building. And I think that's really important to Greg. But the other thing is, though, is understand the Constitution. Have a relationship. But a lot of these people that are in elected representative positions, they don't know the Constitution. And so to your point, we need to know the Constitution, have a good relationship, and then encourage them to make sure that all the things they're doing adhere to this vision of our Declaration and Constitution, Greg.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct, yeah. And get to know those people, get to know the system, and get to know how the actual politics and the budget works and how it affects it and the problems that come up and what's being done. And then sometimes I'll sat there at some of these meetings and I'm thinking, I look around and go, wait a minute, this is an important issue. Where's the press? They're not there. They don't show up. Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
You're doing a great job on that, Greg. And we all, I think we should take his advice, Carol. Thank you, Greg.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're welcome. Thank you, Carol. Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good to talk to you, Greg. Boy, boy, he just echoes a lot of my sentiments because that's where my passion is, is at the local level. And there are some city council meetings in Aurora that I will listen to by Zoom. And it is not the same as being in there, being in there in the lobby for a few minutes before you go in and take your seat. And just kind of have been kind of just sizing things up and and letting some of those folks know. that we're here watching you vote. That's important, isn't it? Yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's really, really important. I appreciate that. So our next guest, I always am excited to hear what he has to say. Oh, Ross Klopf.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, he gives thoughtful consideration to these topics. What's on your mind today, Ross?
SPEAKER 12 :
Hi. Hi, everybody. I have something that's really important in our Colorado Constitution is our Taxpayer Bill of Rights. It protects us from a host of taxpayer issues, including fraud from local governments. It protects us from increased taxes. It protects us from increased spending and increased debt, requires a voter approval for any one of those things. And it is under siege right now with a piece of legislation. It's H.J.R. 25-20. 1023 so it's not even a bill and there's what it does is it's that piece of legislation says that the state has to sue the taxpayers and in effort to remove this taxpayer bill of rights which is a crucial cornerstone to our colorado constitution and protects us from a whole host of tax issues and so first of all they're suing the taxpayers they're not saying how much it's going to cost And the reason they're doing it is they don't want to do what the people want. Tabor says the elected officials have to do what the constituents want. Obviously, these individuals don't want to do what the constituents want. And that's why they're trying to get this through. And that's a big problem because representatives are supposed to do what the electorate wants them to. That's the definition of a representative. So that is extremely scary that they're even proposing this thing. There are a couple. There is going to be one hearing at the Senate. It's probably going to be with the Finance Committee in about probably next week. It's hard to say exactly. And they're probably not going to give a whole lot of warning on it, unfortunately. I'm going to do my best to attend it. They're only going to give two minutes for testimony as well. But two minutes, you could still say it happens. halfway decent amount in two minutes and that's one great thing about toastmasters is we do get to practice that in what's called table topics so that is a great way to prepare for those kind of things so yeah that is what's on my mind now and i'm pretty worried about it but i think we do have a pretty decent chance of getting that overturned if we get enough people to attend that hearing
SPEAKER 21 :
So, and Ross, one other thing is at Cut Engaged, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, our website, that website is coloradotaxpayer.org. That is one of the pieces of legislation that is at the top where people can weigh in. So you don't have to weigh in on all of the bills that we have there, but if you want to weigh in on that, that's 1023, just click on it and it'll maybe take you 30 seconds. And if they hear from all of us, That will be very helpful because not everybody can make it down to the statehouse next week. So that's another tool that people can use to make their voices heard, Ross.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, definitely. That's a great idea.
SPEAKER 21 :
OK, thanks, Ross. It's always I always learn something. And he's he's he always understands the big issues. This thing, this joint resolution, 25, 10, 23. This is a big deal. And again, Tabor was put in place to protect us, the taxpayers. We the taxpayers voted on it. Now we've got Democrats that want to get rid of it.
SPEAKER 16 :
And something I appreciate about Ross is he has come into Toastmasters meetings on Saturday mornings. We meet on the first and third Saturday morning of the month at Independence Institute. And there have been times during our Table Topics times that we have a chance to practice two- to three-minute speaking. And he will talk about his opportunity to speak in the next week. And we have other members, too, who will practice basically speaking on whatever topic it is. And so we have one more just preview opportunity. of what's coming up in the next week or two at the state legislature or our county commissioners or our city councils. Yes, yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
And many times they only give you two minutes, and that's why Table Topics is such great practices because we basically have two minutes at Liberty Toastmasters. We would love to have guests. And so Liberty Denver meets the first and third Saturdays of each month. And then Liberty North second and fourth Saturdays up in Longmont. So we have some other great guests that will be on here in just a moment. We get to do all this because of our sponsors. Liberty Toastmasters is a sponsor of the show. And Lauren Levy is who you need to reach out to for everything regarding mortgages.
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SPEAKER 21 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And speaking of speaking, I was sharing with you that I have some different speaking gigs, and I've been doing some emceeing as well. And so last week I was down at the Center for American Values in Pueblo emceeing an event on one of their On Values presentations with Norma Donlon. And she is of Japanese heritage, and she was born in one of the Japanese internment camps in World War II. These On Values presentations they have down there They are life-changing. And then also Drew Dix, co-founder of the center, has started a new podcast series. And you want to check that out as well. And it's Words from the Silo. You can find all that at AmericanValueCenter.org. Super interesting stuff, Carol Baker.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is interesting. And having guest speakers, having a chance to go and hear people tell their stories. In person? Yes. I love it. And more than just one minute, like a commercial or a campaign ad or anything like this. Yes. What a wonderful opportunity.
SPEAKER 21 :
And you can see it online as well. But if I could do it in person, I'd like to be there. Me too. Me too. I like that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. And on the line here today, we have a chance to hear Marshall Dawson. Let's see what you have to say about the Constitution and understanding the constitutional role of government in defining and protecting and enforcing our individual rights.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, good morning, Carol. And Kim, when you were talking about emceeing, you reminded me of when you and I moderated a candidate forum a couple of years ago. It was a lot of fun and great to get out there and do that service for the folks.
SPEAKER 21 :
That was so creative. That was a lot of fun, Marshall.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. You know, I have so much that I could say on this. So I'm going to try to keep my comments to less than 45 minutes here. But I was reminded of President Reagan often speaking of America as being a shining city on a hill. And what he meant by that was, you know, that America draws people here from around the world. Now, we know that Barack Obama couldn't really define what exceptionalism is. But it's really seen as protecting rights. It's a predictable environment. It's a land of opportunity. It's stability. And really, what are the building blocks of that exceptionalism? Well, it's in part due to things like freedom. It's like property rights. It's the rule of law. Do I get a fair shake if I come to America? Now, okay. There's an open question of whether you really have property rights. Do you really own yourself, your labor, your time? We're talking theory, not practice here. But if we're talking about the rule of law, do we necessarily mean law and order? Well, unfortunately, no, right? We're not talking about excessive government. You could look at the COVID lockdowns. That was a form, a totalitarian form of law and order, right? So too much law and order is actually a violation of our rights. But rather, The rule of law is the assumption that we are all equal under the law. It's the belief that we will have equal application of the law. You and I are subject to the same restrictions. There's this expectation that justice is applied equally no matter what status or what office somebody holds. So I guess that I should end with a disclaimer, right? This is not to say that all laws are just. you can easily have bad statutes which will foster corruption. We've seen lawfare from pugnacious partisans. Rick pointed out earlier, we may not have much recourse. I met somebody in Lafayette when I was campaigning who had her business destroyed through legitimate law and order because of bad statutes and a bad system that was set up by our government. So it's no guarantee that your rights are going to be protected, only that we have the expectation of equality. And, you know, things may very well be adjudicated, the T's dotted and the I's crossed, but, you know, courts are not always on our side. So when we think about this, we need lawmakers who will keep this in mind, have very crisp laws, very crisp statutes, and, you know, for the judges that are appointed, for votes for retaining justices here in Colorado, we need to have that in mind as well.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, and I think, Marshall, this goes back to what Greg says, is we... And these people are supposed to be representatives of us, the people, and they're supposed to stay within the constraints of this vision that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So what that... Downstream from that means is that means that we are all treated equally under the law. And as you mentioned with COVID, when COVID, they said that some businesses were, some people were essential or some businesses were essential and some weren't. I was beside myself, Marshall Dawson.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's when I lost my faith in our better, you know, ability to do what's right for us.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yep. Marshall Dawson, thank you so much. I always learn a lot and excited about our next guest as well.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I think we need an oversight committee for Marshall Dawson, though, to oversee anybody who's going to cross his I's and dot his T's. I think he might need some oversight. I missed that. Thank you, Marshall. Our next speaker is Dave Walton, and he always shares something from a point of view that I would not have considered, and yet he explains it in a way that I get to actually learn something. I have appreciated that today. I'm looking forward to hearing from you, Dave.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I'm not sure about I's and T's, Carol, but I go back to A, B, C. Okay. And that has to do with, you know, I have pointed out, and Marshall is a big supporter of this, we've discussed it at length, that the Constitution in the body of it is little more than Robert's rules of order for governance. It just describes technically how we are to function administratively. Now, when you get to the Bill of Rights, however— That Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments, is the only place in the Constitution where you will find the words right or the word rights. And I think that is significant because, like all of our law should be based on the laws that are in the Constitution, the Constitution itself was based on Jefferson's declaration in large measure. And that phrase, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, is a moral prescription. The Constitution itself is to be a legal one. Although with the first 10 amendments, the Bill of Rights, that legal prescription turned into moral obligations, i.e. the word rights. We once, here recently on Faceplant, which is what I call Facebook, we had a discussion. Should judges judge cases from an originalist point of view, meaning in the context of how the founders intended the Constitution, or should they judge a case based on an evolving interpretation? In other words, is the Constitution living, Or is it dead because the times have changed? And I always point out that to the extent you allow the Constitution to be a living document, it becomes a dead letter. You simply murdered it. And the bottom line is that the means of changing the Constitution are contained within it. Robert's Rules of Order prescribes. If you don't like the law or you think another law should replace it, then there's a means of doing that within the Constitution. But to allow the Constitution to become a living one is simply murdering. And so I would sum up my point by saying simply, interpret the Constitution in the spirit it was intended. And that's found in Jefferson's Declaration. Thank you, guys.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thank you, Dave Walden. That is awesome. So how do you want to wrap this up? We have about a minute.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, it seems to me that the Constitution, as I learn more about it, was developed by men who understand human nature. And they knew that we needed some protections. And I think the smartest thing they ever did was come up with a three-prong approach. And if we think of the Constitution as a plumb line, and yet... Maybe the executive branch pulls out too far, or maybe the judicial branch pulls out too far doing their thing, or the legislative branch pulls too far doing their thing. The other two can pull it back in. And we don't want any one of them to get out of hand. The Constitution is what we use to cause those things to be in checks and balances. And I believe that worked 250 years ago, and I think it still works now because of how...
SPEAKER 21 :
human nature works i like to see those two out of three keep you know the third in check well i think that we're in the third founding of our country you've talked about that i think there may be something to that absolutely so hey carol thanks for being here thanks for having us so fast I've got a great quote here by Calvin Coolidge. I think you're going to like this. Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not. Nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not. Unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not. The world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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Thank you, Kim. I tried my best.
SPEAKER 21 :
I know. I appreciate it. So thank you. I really do appreciate it. They say 90% of success is just showing up. And it's to show up when you're not feeling just 100%. I do really appreciate it. So thank you.
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My pleasure. It's always fun trying to figure it out when, you know, the brain's not fully working right, but it was working enough to make all that happen. Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
Good morning. You know, we can't see the mountains today.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, no, we can't.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's so hazy out there today. Last time you were here, it was dark still about this time, wasn't it? Oh, gosh, yeah. That must have been before daylight savings.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. I think we should just quit changing the clocks. I know that Rachel, one of our other producers, she had jet lag for a week after the changed daylight savings time.
SPEAKER 20 :
It was in Congress, in federal Congress. I don't know what happened to that bill. It was a campaign promise from Trump also to make it permanent.
SPEAKER 21 :
I hope he gets that done. One thing, I was looking at his declaration or what he put out on Earth Day, and yesterday when we talked to Trent Luce, there's something that's not excited about, and that's the CO2 pipelines. But he did say in that declaration that He's going to get rid of paper straws. And I was out in California recently, and I'd gotten a great smoothie. And it was a nice, thick smoothie with a paper straw. And I could not drink half of it because the straw disintegrated. So I think that's a good idea, Kurt Gurwitz.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, you know, I'm fascinated by the marketing story of these things, right? The straws became a trigger point issue for us when a video went viral of that plastic straw that was in the turtle's nose. I don't know if a lot of people saw it. And so I think your listeners might know what I'm talking about. But it was interesting. It's hard to watch an innocent, weak creature with this piece of plastic. And it was like they pulled it out of his nose, and it was kind of graphic. It was a long straw in a small nose. And, yeah, so that's where it came from, this whole part. It's the focal point of the straw debate. Yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
So now I'm getting so cynical year by year. I'm wondering if those that wanted to get rid of paper straws or of plastic straws actually put the straw in the turtle's nose so then they could take it out. What do you think?
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, it's entirely possible, and I think it's good. I do a lot of thinking about AI, a lot of research about AI, and I think having the right level of skepticism is going to be very important as we move forward, and I think it's part of critical thinking. It's part of my passion as a professor to get that into people's heads. You and I both came from the investment industry, and I've always said if you can't think cynically, you should not be working in investments. Exactly.
SPEAKER 21 :
This is true. True. OK, I'm going to move over to something serious. Then we'll get to some of these other things. But this just came in on the text line and said, have you seen this? And the abortion clinic up in Boulder. Dr. Hearn, who's been doing abortions up there and does late-term abortions since 1975, is closing. And so I find it interesting on the straw debate. Everybody got so concerned about a straw and a turtle's nose. And we— We have to be good stewards of our earth. I totally agree on that. And so to have a movement regarding getting rid of plastic straws because a plastic straw was in a turtle's nose because we have compassion for the turtle, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 21 :
But yet here in Colorado, since 1975, we've been aborting babies even up until now, the moment of birth. I think that we need to make sure we talk a little bit about compassion about that as well. So anyway, the fact that – I'm not going to make you weigh in on this. I appreciate that. The fact that this clinic is closing is really blessed news. So I wanted to share that with all of you out there. Our word of the day. Were you listening? Did you hear what the word was?
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, wait. I did hear it because Carol weighed in on it.
SPEAKER 21 :
And Marshall used it. Pug.
SPEAKER 20 :
Pugnacious.
SPEAKER 21 :
Pugnacious.
SPEAKER 20 :
What a great word, huh? And give me the definition again real quick. Okay, and you spell it because— Because you said the Democrats were being pugnacious in our local Congress.
SPEAKER 21 :
Very pugnacious down there. Yeah. So Congress is in Washington, D.C., and this is Colorado Statehouse. Statehouse. It took me a while to figure all that out. So hold on here. Pugnacious is P-U-G-N-A-C-I-O-U-S. It could be combative in nature, belligerent. Disposed to fight, inclined to fighting, quarrelsome fighting. It's difficult to be around somebody that's pugnacious on a regular basis, though.
SPEAKER 20 :
But, you know, you and I have talked about this before. Donald Trump taught the world, if you want to draw a crowd, start a fight. It's very entertaining. People will, you know, when we were kids. This is true. When we were kids, you'd hear somebody scream, fight, fight, fight, and everybody would run over. They got to see what's going on. And really the popularity of that K-Fab kind of theater that is professional wrestling, the popularity of WWF.
SPEAKER 15 :
What's K-Fab?
SPEAKER 20 :
K-Fab is just that. It's the name of the type of theater. that professional wrestling is. I have a rule in my life that I won't talk politics with somebody until they know what K-Fab is, because I think we're in a K-Fab era in national politics that we, so the theater is defined by, there's a, they call it a, there's all this language around the professional wrestling. Like it's a face is the good guy and the heel is the bad guy. And the crowd is part of, is one of the characters and they just always cheer yay for the good guy and they cheer boo for the bad guy. And you have to, everybody knows that it's a game and it's fake. And in case, in case one of your listeners just got spoiled that, that I told them that, that professional wrestling is fake. Sorry, it is. And so, but now we've entered this phase in, in politics where we are cheering for the good guy and we're cheering against the bad guy. And it's,
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, isn't that what we should do is cheer for the good guy and against the bad? Of course, I guess that's the definition of that, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
I think life, I prefer a narrative in my entertainment. I prefer a narrative with bad guys that have a little depth to them. Like a conflicted bad guy or a bad guy that you can kind of see their reasoning on where they got to where they are? I think as humans we should have – you used the word compassion. That's a big word for me. I think we should – empathy is – there was somebody at the Nuremberg trials who was asking the question, what is evil? and trying to get a good definition on it. And I've never thought about it. I just thought it was like, you know, you know it when you see it. Our Supreme Court definition of porn is we couldn't figure out how to define it, so we're just going to say you know it when you see it.
SPEAKER 21 :
So now we're going to put it in our school libraries.
SPEAKER 20 :
But we got a good definition of evil out of some thinking during the Nuremberg trials of the Nazis, and they said lack of empathy. And so if we – KFAB is entertainment and it draws a crowd. That was the point of this conversation. But I'm of the opinion that we need to be – we also need to be bigger and think more nuanced and realize that everybody is having their own journey. And everyone's doing – I think by definition everyone is doing the best that they can. Yes, we may have to disagree with them to quite a degree as is necessary, and I'm glad you're fighting the fight. But I also think you're going to win that fight better if you have empathy, if you understand. Yesterday somebody said to me, I can't imagine why the left is out there protesting. And I thought, well, that's a lack of imagination on your part. These people – these people – They think that Donald Trump is Hitler. That's their belief. And if you can't understand that, you're not going to be able to convince them and you're not going to be able to love them. And that hurts your soul and it hurts all of us when we fight too much. It hurts us when we're all too pugnacious.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, we've got a lot to talk about here. So, okay, the challenge is to use the word pugnacious in a sentence today. And I'll try not to be pugnacious as we start to break down these issues on this. But I love this quote from Calvin Coolidge. You know what? I always like to have it as birthdates, and I didn't grab that. hold on here i want that and but he was um oh darn it now it says i'm not connected to the internet okay well i won't give us birthdays right now but calvin coolidge was our 30th president and uh he uh actually was a small government republican and he he actually i think had reduced federal spending and he said this he said don't expect to build up the week by pulling down the strong and that is uh calvin cool fourth of july He was born the 4th of July? Oh my gosh. that so that's making me think you know jefferson and john adams both died on the fourth of july and so did now i'm monroe i think died on the fourth of july and coolidge was born on the fourth of july god has god has such a these little god winks that i think are so interesting about that but we're going to continue the discussion on all of this it all happens because of our sponsors and the roger mangan state farm insurance team He's going to be celebrating his 49th year in business. And that happens because you do a really good job taking care of your clients. So if you'd like to figure out what your insurance coverage is and figure out if you need anything different, you can sit down with them for a complimentary appointment. And that number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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SPEAKER 21 :
And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. And I thank all of you who support us. And both financially, you guys do that. And then also great words of encouragement, prayers. I really appreciate all of that. And I thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show as well. And in studio with me is Professor Kurt Gerwitz. And you and Trent Luce, I do the same thing. I'll say, okay, this will be the subject. And the next thing I know, I'm over here. But we've got to talk about evil. Because I was talking to a young person once. I look at you as a very young person, so a young person who's just a little bit younger than you, that said, I have just come to realize that there is real evil in the world. And I think that he may have been more along the definition of your evil as maybe understanding there's a reason why they're doing these things. There is things that are just downright evil. So let's talk a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, it's a judgment. whether something is evil or not. Really? Yeah, if two asteroids run into each other, then there's no judge, like, who cares? There's no good or, there is not a good or a bad. Good or bad is always a judgment.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, what about Hitler? So you mentioned Hitler. What about Hitler and... I mentioned the Nuremberg Trials. Well, you mentioned that there are those that... The consequences of Hitler, yeah. On the left that think Trump is Hitler, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, I did mention Hitler. Yeah, you did say that. Dang it.
SPEAKER 21 :
You meant not to.
SPEAKER 20 :
I enjoy this. I have a presentation about the rules of the Internet.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
And there's one of them. I'm forgetting its name right now. And it says that all discussions on the Internet, if you give it four iterations, someone's going to mention Hitler. It's going to devolve into somebody mentioning Hitler. It's a placeholder for pure evil.
SPEAKER 21 :
OK, because I think that what they did, just, you know, killing people was pure evil.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I've been so I kind of want to do a whole show on my mentor that I lost. I lost a good friend of mine. He lived a good, full, long life and he passed away in his I think he was approaching 90 years. And he was in the CIA and he let that slip out at dinner one night when he had had too much to drink because he and I spent a lot of time together. Well, he, oh shoot, what was I going to talk about him for?
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, we talked about pure evil and I said Hitler and concern about killing all these people. So did your friend have some different insight into that?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, he was a deep thinker. He was a professional negotiator. His name was Paul Weinman. They wrote a book about his life. But he would see the nuance behind people. I think the point that we're trying to make here, that I'm trying to make here, is lack of empathy, turned out, is the best definition of evil I've heard. But evil is a judgment that... You know, if something is good or bad, there's a lot of things that happen and they just happen. There's, you know, the Taoist philosophy of life would be just to accept radical acceptance. It's really good psychology a little bit there, too. But you can decide something. It's to be determined.
SPEAKER 21 :
But, Kurt, this – and I have struggled with this. This has been a journey because I had kind of this acceptance thing and then everybody's on this different journey. And then I have come to realize that we actually have to put a stake in the ground on truth. So this whole relativism, postmodernism, has gotten us to where we are. It's gotten us to the fact that at this point, I was talking to someone yesterday on this whole transgender thing. And he said, my granddaughter just had her breasts removed. And I said, what? I said, how old? He said, 20 years old. That's evil. There's no nuance. But I do know that those people that are chopping off the breasts of healthy children and penises of our boys, that they actually think that they're helping these kids. But they're not. But it is evil.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, you could say they actually think they're helping these kids. I saw a behind-the-scenes recorded video of a hospital complex having an annual meeting, and they were talking about the dollars that they get for the transgender surgeries. There's a lot of money to be made in transgender surgeries, and the lady said, if you object... As a doctor, if you do a conscientious objection and you refuse to do this kind of surgery, same conversation around whether or not a doctor would refuse to do abortions or not. And this was the head of the hospital complex, and she just said, you're going to have to work somewhere else. You're sure this was authentic? Well, I love that cynics hat. No, I love the skepticism. And we can't know. I feel like I live in a post-truth world where everything I come across, I'm like, boy, I just don't know if anything's true or not. It's hard to tell. So it definitely felt that way to me. It came across me once. It came from a trusted source. I don't know if it was authentic or not.
SPEAKER 21 :
But those are important, as you mentioned that. Some of those checks that you do go through is trusted source. Try to make sure that you authenticate it because I think many of us have gotten caught by some of the stuff that's been shared that you quoted and it was not authentic. And so we have to, as I say on the show, we have to search for truth and clarity.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, truth and clarity. Love it. So absence of empathy is evil. So what's empathy? Tell me what empathy is. So it took me a long time to figure this out. My wife will say that maybe I'm on the spectrum, meaning I don't read people's emotions as well as I should. And it's about reading people's emotions, empathy. So the way I explain it is— Did she say you were pugnacious? She does say that. Sometimes I am pugnacious. Sometimes you have to be. You have to pick and choose your battles. But empathy. Empathy is being able to feel what the other person is going through. And one way I understood this is to learn the difference between sympathy and empathy. Sympathy is more – there's a distance there. It's an academic exercise or it's an intellectual exercise to say I'm sorry for your loss. If somebody – if you go to a funeral and you wrote a note that says I'm sorry for your loss, that's a sympathy card because you're saying that you're sorry for their loss. Now, if you go to a funeral and – and you hug the widow and you have tears in your eyes, that's empathy. So if you actually can feel what the other person is going through, that's empathy.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, so take this then to evil. I think that there are those, for example, I think a narcissist can read another person's goodwill to try to be empathetic and that they can manipulate a person on that. What would you say to that?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I mean, I think that's evil. Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well done. OK, I think that's probably evil as well. So let's let's button up this particular discussion, because I do want to get over to AI and also like to talk about this is something that's on your heart is is legacy as well. But Kurt. There is pure evil in this world. Now, somebody may justify to themselves that they're helping somebody or doing something. For example, this, and again, I'm not going to make you comment on this, but aborting babies, there are those that are thinking that they're helping the woman. But in essence, there's other alternatives to an unplanned pregnancy that doesn't involve aborting, killing another human being. And so I think that that is evil to make that happen, to do those. So I think this is good news that this abortion clinic up in Boulder is closing. So there are some things that... That we have to put a stake in the ground and say, this is evil, this is not okay. So your final thought on that, and then we'll go to break and we'll come back and talk about AI.
SPEAKER 20 :
Whenever you bring up abortion, I'd rather talk about insider trading.
SPEAKER 21 :
I know.
SPEAKER 20 :
And there is some evil in there. Something happened recently. with the Trump tariffs and I hope it comes out. Someone, we don't know who, someone made a lot of money on the inside of the Trump administration. We're gonna find out whether the Trump administration stands for truth or not. I really only have two political issues in the world. Insider trading, congressional insider trading, I think, is one of the greatest tragedies that's currently happening on planet Earth.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 20 :
The other one is bicycle infrastructure. You and I have gotten pugnacious with each other around that a couple times.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes, we have. We'll probably have to do that again here soon.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, you challenged me to ride my bike here. It's like an hour drive here. It would be like four or five hours to ride my bike here. I'm going to do it one day just to prove it can be done.
SPEAKER 21 :
But you'd have to leave it there.
SPEAKER 20 :
middle of the night i'd have to leave at 3 a.m and and i could just and when it's snowing that's the worst right um but i but i'll prove that it's possible um yeah but just think of all the other stuff you're not getting done for those three hours getting exercise done and i'm i'm doing i'm solving the world's problems by being on a bicycle oh my gosh okay but insider trading cars are evil oh
SPEAKER 21 :
Being able to go where you want to, when you want to is... Mobility's not evil.
SPEAKER 20 :
Everything is a series of trade-offs.
SPEAKER 21 :
But insider trading.
SPEAKER 20 :
Talk about Nancy Pelosi. Someone wins. Yeah. Well, how do politicians get rich? I think we have to... Like, a lot of what you do here is you highlight, like, what there's... Like, you just said, we're talking about this, but over here, this is happening. Like... My wife has a meme that she loves. She says, everybody's talking about Prince Harry when there's a whole Prince Andrew right over here. Meaning that, you know, there are bigger problems to talk about. So, yeah, I think you do good work with that.
SPEAKER 21 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity. By looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Text line is 720-605-0647. And May 15th, is the golf tournament for the USMC Memorial Foundation. And it's one of the first golf tournaments of the season. And so get out there and just have a great day. Support the memorial. Know some great people. Maybe you'll even get that hole-in-one and get that new pickup or that new vehicle anyway from Lynn Lyle Chevrolet. So be sure and check all that out at USMCMemorialFoundation.org. The professor is in studio with me. Professor Kurt Gerwitz. Okay, some things coming in on the text line. We want to hear from you. 720-605-0647. So first thing regarding the turtle and the straw. It says, I cut up the plastic that holds six-pack plastic bottles. I've been doing this for years. That way I do not worry about it getting caught around an animal's body. I also cut up plastic straws, but thank God for plastic straws. I do the same thing. I cut up that plastic that holds those bottles as well.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. You tell me, Kim. You tell me, Kim, that you are cutting your plastic straws. I'm not.
SPEAKER 21 :
I haven't done that. Yeah, no one's done that. I hadn't thought about that one.
SPEAKER 20 :
I believe this person, though. That's what you need. That's what the right, you know, the conservative side of, like, we want to bring back plastic straws, then maybe we cut them up and call that, you know, that's personal responsibility. I love that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, so next thing, I still wonder if the Enviro stuck that straw up that turtle's nose, so I'm still going to be cynical. Okay, next thing, it says, some people take pleasure in the pain or even causing pain to others. That is evil. From someone who's looked a few of those monsters in the eyes, this is a friend of mine who'd been in law enforcement.
SPEAKER 20 :
You know, what I like about this article this comment is that it brings up the, it brings back that idea of like evil is you know it when you see it, but we've all seen it.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, and so she said, yeah, there are people that take pleasure in hurting other people. Okay, next thing. Sandra said, woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness and who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. And that's in Isaiah 520. So she pretty well nails it, I think, about there is evil. And we've got to make sure that we search for truth and understand what that is. Next thing, some commit heinous crimes because they are dumb, others because they are evil.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's not connected to your hiney. It's just heinous.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay. And then let's see here. This is another scripture. I'll get to that. We'll look at that here in just a little bit. It's a little bit longer. Okay, so let's move over.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's what you get, listener, for writing in too long. No, it's important.
SPEAKER 21 :
You're going to get skipped. It's important. I want to hear from you. 720-605-0647. During the break, though, you said, as we were texting back and forth to plan subjects for the show, you said AI. Yes. And I do find it interesting that AI, they're talking about these data centers or data centers that are going to do all this AI. They're going to take a lot of electricity, a lot of water. And again, those on the left don't say that they're so concerned about human beings using electricity and water are not concerned about AI using water and electricity. And you said you're watching some periodical or something about AI. AI something?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, well, I'm on these podcasts, and I do my AI research, and I just listened to Dwakesh, and he's just... To who? His name's Dwakesh. D-W-A-K-E-S-H. Okay. So he's got perhaps a Middle Eastern or Southeast or Southern Asian background. He brings on the best thinkers in AI. And so we have – it's amazing how we live in this world where we can have access to that. And so I listen to these religious – I mean I go through them with a fine-tooth comb. Well, he had someone on who the audience was very excited to have on. And his hypothesis is that we're going to have – like the world is going to be so completely different by 2027. We're going to have the intelligence explosion. We're going to reach AGI, which is – artificial generalized intelligence so ai is artificial intelligence and intelligence is intelligence is kind of one of these loosely defined things as well it's like it's problem solving but it's predicting the future but it's also when we talk about artificial intelligence we're comparing it to human intelligence and general what humans can do is a variety of things i can mow the lawn and i can uh do the dishes. I don't know why these are all chores right now. I can do my taxes.
SPEAKER 21 :
Katie, look what he's going to be doing at home, right? Right.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm making my honey-do list right now. No, but humans can't. We can have a debate like this. We can have a conversation like this. And then we can also go and drive the car. Those are two extremely different skill sets. And the current state of AI in the world is it's very specialized. Like we have one kind of AI that is looking for folding proteins, which is one of the most complicated problems on planet Earth mathematically. It's just physics. It's just math. It's like chess. We know all the rules, but it's still so complicated. That it enters the realm of chaos theory where it's completely unpredictable because there's just too many variables. And so we have AIs that are specifically doing that. And I'm really excited about the medical promises or the medical hope that I have around breakthroughs around that AI. But that AI could not drive a car or have an opinion about philosophy. Whereas if we go to ChatGPT, which is just a chat bot, it certainly has – it can give you – it's like having a conversation with somebody who's read – wikipedia or the entire internet it's it's fascinating so agi is the artificial generalized intelligent meaning that what's that that robot that can do do it even more like a human where they can do different things and this so this uh guest on the dokesh podcast was like he just mapped it out he's a futurist i love reading um people what's a futurist people who are predicting the future but not not they're not like the the charlatans who are selling you you know, your tarot, reading your tarot cards or your palm. They, they are there. They serve a function in the world of like trying to predict the future. And, and as a history, I was a history major in undergrad. And one of the assignments was to, to write a history of the future. It like, tell us what you think is going to happen. And it's a fact because again, one of the purposes of studying history is to not repeat those problems of the future in the future and, And so this guy is a futurist, and he had it month by month. He had it tracked down of how we're going to have this intelligence explosion. There's another thing called the singularity where humans and all the information technologies, they kind of fuse together. We're going to be – we're just going to have – there's a – I'm trying to remember the Johnny Depp movie, the name of it – But it describes it in great detail, like how weird the future could get. And we all like to think about science fiction. It's fun to think about the future and how things could be better. And this guy is doing it, and he says it's just really short term. Now, the very next guest was like, no, everything he said is 30 years away. The complete opposite. So I like a little – they weren't – oh, what's the word of the day? No, they weren't pugnacious. They're not fighting about it, but they're having a good debate about what the future holds for humanity. You talk about we're in the third founding. I think we've been in this information revolution that's been similar to the industrial revolution, and now we're getting these surprisingly effective solutions. Artificial intelligence, AI, the chatbots that can process this information for us. And it's going to change everything. It is changing everything.
SPEAKER 21 :
So AI processing this, and you mentioned artificial intelligence, human intelligence. But the thing that AI could never do would be to create something, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
I disagree. Really? So it currently cannot. It seems like it cannot right now. I think it's deep.
SPEAKER 21 :
It can't create, though. I'm thinking even like the black hole. How is the earth found or created? And they say it came from nothing. Well, you can't get something from nothing. And so I don't see how AI could create something without mankind, which if we're created in the image of God. I think that means that we are still creators. I just can't see how AI can have that spark to create something.
SPEAKER 20 :
Can you create something?
SPEAKER 21 :
I do, every day.
SPEAKER 20 :
You created some children also. So there's physical creation and there's idea creation. Right, both. And I think AI will be able to do both. I think they're saying right now – there's somebody who's saying that they're able to do it and they're coming out of Google. We can't confirm that they've actually been able to do it. But it's basically they're saying – If an AI is not good at doing something, then we just have to look at how it was trained. That's the language. So the creation of ideas, it generally comes from the combination of ideas. You're taking ideas from one place and you're applying it somewhere new. And AI is not doing that right now. But if we asked it to do that, I think it will absolutely be able to do that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay. Okay, well, we will continue this discussion on AI. Anything you want to do to wrap this up before we go to break on this particular?
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, we were talking at break, you and I, about empathy. So AI doesn't have a soul, right? But it will seem like it does. It will fool some people into thinking it has a soul. And So in theory, then it can be sympathetic. It can say, oh, I feel sorry for you. But it actually can't feel it doesn't have those emotions. Sounds to me like a politician or a psychopath or something evil.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. The text line is 720-605-0647. This is from Jenny. And this was regarding, I had been talking about, we said the legislature is going to finish this session here in a couple of weeks. But I mentioned all these boards and commissions that continue to do all the dirty work, I would say. And she said, all these boards and commissions are unconstitutional and their purpose is to move our government farther away from the people. She's absolutely correct. And then she also said that you're talking relativism as we're talking about empathy. So that's from Jenny. And we've got Ron on the line. Ron, what is on your radar?
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Hey, Kim. To your guests, people, if they were really serious about cleaning up, I've seen how they dump trash everywhere. in the ocean and tons of trash. And if they're getting a straw from Colorado, it's not going to get to the ocean. So they just dump, like I said, hundreds and thousands of tons of trash. So what they need to do is they need to make them stop dumping trash And maybe put like serial numbers on the trash so if they find it, they know who did it. And start cleaning up all the plastics and also discarded nets that are entangling sea life. But that's just things I've seen.
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Okay. Thank you, Ron. And I think what you're saying is we definitely want to be good stewards of our earth. And I really think Americans want to do that as well. And I also think that we can get creative on what we do with trash. Maybe we ask AI, Kurt Gerwitz, what to do with trash so that it would be something creative regarding trash. What do you think?
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I think AI would, you know, if you ask the chat bot, it's going to search the Internet for what are the best answers that are already out there. And those were human generated. So you're right about humans are still better idea creators. And I think there are some really creative stuff happening with what you can do with trash. I actually went and visited in Taos. There's the Earthship. It's a bunch of hippies and they've built their property. They built their houses out of trash. And it's very inspiring because it's low. It's good use. It's very efficient, right, if not effective. It's not efficient with labor, though. It takes a lot. You end up having to, like, swing a sledgehammer and fill a tire with dirt, right? And then you build a wall with those tires. And you can plaster over that and make it look nice. But you basically build a wall with zero cost of materials.
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You bring up hippies. I've always wondered how they make a living. It's a broad term.
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That's a great question. I don't think there's anybody dying of hunger in the United States. No. I think we have obesity problems. I think we've solved hunger. And I think we've done it with a combination. On the one hand, I'd like to say it's free markets, right? We love the idea that... I love to say if restaurants and farms in the United States, if they were run by the DMV, we would all starve to death.
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That's true.
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If there was not a profit motive to grow more food, we would not have solved...
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a lot of farming problems we couldn't feed the 300 million people in the country but we see policies that are coming out that are trying to make it more difficult for our ranchers and our farmers and our producers and i need to talk with jim may he called in yesterday and said and i think i know which bill it is now that there was a piece of legislation that they're changing uh designation of uh
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Yeah, Jemay's losing his agriculture exemption.
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And what we really need to be doing is lowering taxes across the board. But what you see down here at the statehouse, they're rating all of these different funds with the help of some of these Republicans. Because instead of reducing spending, they want to get rid of Tabor. They want to, you know. get as much blood out of this turnip of us as possible, and they just want to continue to fund more and more government. We've got to say no. We've got to get this under control, Kurt Gerwitz.
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I think my thing with empathy, I don't want it to be relativism, but I think you can't blame people for acting in their own economic best interests. I don't think it's helpful to blame people, even if they have a mind virus, even if they've got... But even if they're wrong, I'm saying you can't blame them. Let me finish the thought. Okay, sorry. You still have to stop them. I think if someone breaks into your house and tries to hurt your family, I mean, that's the greatest imaginable form of evil, like the most tangible, prescient, emotional form of evil. Jesus calls us to love our enemies, and I think what we're supposed to do is understand— That doesn't mean you don't stop them at all, like with all possible force to stop them. I think like getting rid of revenge is what Jesus was about. I think we're talking about understanding is not acceptance. That's the distinction I'm trying to make.
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Okay, so I wanted to go back to people acting in their own economic best interest. That means, though, you can't steal from other people. Of course not. Okay, and that's what happens with government, is you wouldn't go over to your neighbor and say, hey, give me this money so that I can build a bike trail.
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How do you address people who are hoarding resources? If you and I are living in caveman times, I always think about this. I think about this way too much. If you and I are living in caveman times and one person just has too much stuff, there's going to be some natural justice that happens. Well, how did they get too much stuff is the question. Yeah, that's a good question.
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Okay, so that is the question. Did they get up earlier in the day? Did they work harder? Did they take more risk?
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And don't they benefit? You believe in charity. Don't people benefit from sharing?
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I don't believe in forced charity. And there is a difference. because charity should not be forced. Christ didn't force anybody to give stuff up. He didn't use force.
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He just threatened that you'd go to hell if you don't follow, if you don't believe in him.
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Well, he didn't threaten that. He did say that he— It's not a threat.
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It's a promise.
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He said that he is the way, the truth, and the light.
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That's a kind way of saying it. There's harsher language in there in the Gospels, but— Yeah. So, I mean, I think I, you know, I was trying to explain this yesterday. I generally think that there's a left and a right balance, that there's a yin and a yang between individualism and collectivism. And I think I don't disagree completely. With what you're trying to do here, Kim, in like like people need to be held accountable on both sides. And you do that. And I love that about you. I think we need I think you're right about like having a choice of charities to give to is better than the government taking it and wasting it and then increasing the fraud. But I think we need to – I think we as conservatives, we as the people on the right, we need to lead by example by, like, letting our churches, like, be the example of – I had one person once reach out to me on Reddit or I reached out to him. He just wanted to do, like, a cleanup. He walked around the neighborhood and picked up trash. And I've been inspired by that for more than five years. It's amazing, like, what a good deed can do. Yeah. And so like lean into the – it's not collectivism. It's not letting people from the animal farm metaphor like fooling – having useful fools. Useful idiots. Useful idiots who have been tricked into thinking they're doing something good and you're actually just giving one other person more power. Like how do our politicians get rich? It's a real question. It's a real problem in the world.
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i've learned the green in the green new deal so the green that's going into pbi's pockets dollars yeah yeah so we have this is a spirited and uh let's see i did want to just give this i think this is uh uh sandra says this the book of ezekiel also contains numerous woes such as ezekiel 13 3 this is what the lord god says woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing. Here the false prophets are condemned for misleading the people with their own visions rather than the truth of God. I have to go to this whole transgender activism thing. This whole thing, natural law, man and woman. Now, I know there's outliers. You'd mentioned there's outliers over there. But it is man. It is woman. I was out to dinner last night and went to the ladies' room. I loved it. It was the ladies room. It was women. It wasn't the both. I loved that.
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It made you look. Don't fall into the liberal trap of caring about bathrooms, genders on bathrooms. What is it that made you felt safe? Is that what it was?
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I felt that there was a truth that women are women, and I like to keep men out of those private spaces such as locker rooms and bathrooms.
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I think we need to have empathy for people with gender dysmorphia. I don't think letting them mutilate their— That doesn't mean they can come in my bathroom. Right, and I don't think they need to mutilate their bodies so that a hospital can get rich.
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Well, and this is the other thing. On Monday, we're going to have a sex therapist who is referring to a bill that was passed in 2019 here. I remember this. And that basically says that therapists can only affirm gender dysphoria. It's taking away their voices. So there's all kinds of force and coercion in that, Kurt. Now I throw that out. We've got a minute.
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And we never talked about legacy. We're going to have to pick it back up.
SPEAKER 21 :
We're going to have to do that next time.
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I wanted to mention that Ron said that the plastic from Denver could never make it to the ocean. And the word never doesn't work in there. I think he's generally right. I'm not disagreeing. But we are – just because I love New Orleans so much, I'll say, like, when we flush our toilets here, the Platte River flows to the Missouri, flows to the Mississippi, flows into the Gulf of –
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America. There it is. Kurt, it's always spirited to have you. And I love the fact that you're game for all of these discussions. I think that it makes us all better to have these discussions. I do.
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The conversation is important.
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Yeah, it is. And I think you'll love the quote for the end of the show from Calvin Coolidge. He said this, nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not. Nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not. Unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not. The world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, and strive for high ideals like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And we will be back tomorrow, same time, same place, with all of these very spirited discussions. And Kurt Gerwitz, it's always great to have you in studio.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'll be back next month as one of your educated derelicts.
SPEAKER 21 :
Sounds like a plan. So have a great day and we'll talk tomorrow.
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Water is fundamental to life, yet many remain unaware of the contaminants lurking in their taps. This episode breaks down the science behind common pollutants such as 1,4-Dioxane and synthetic dyes. Paul shares actionable insights on safeguarding your family's water supply, from understanding infrastructural challenges to implementing effective filtration systems in your home. Whether you're on a well or city water, this discussion emphasizes the importance of informed and proactive water management.
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Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Water Talk. I'm Paul the Waterman. I hope everyone is having a great Thursday. Happy to be here with you. So in the last couple shows, we've covered a lot of information. And I kind of want to do a recap because there's so much information out there. And I think it's really important that we understand that. That the quality of our water, not only is it important to everyday life, from humans, consumption, we need to drink water, the animals need to drink water, the plants need to drink water. So really, life is all about water, isn't it? And one of the things that I'm concerned about is, you remember we talked about the forever chemicals, the PFAS? Now, I'm beginning to think, guys, that everything that's contaminated in our water is like a forever chemical. It doesn't go away. For example, we're going to talk today about dioxin. And we're also going to talk today about a contaminant called 1,4-dioxane. And these are contaminants that I believe are just like PFAS. They're in our water supply and they stay in our water supply. They don't disappear. We're also going to talk about disinfection byproducts that are in our water supply. These are chemicals used basically to treat the water as it leaves the waste treatment plant and then it's entered back into the same body of water that the water is drawn from. So everybody is technically in a state of reusable water. And what that means is that as soon as it leaves the waste treatment plant and it goes back into the body of water that it was drawn from, somebody else, some other municipality, is taking it right back out. And in Castle Rock, right now, Castle Rock Municipality is 35% reusable water, and that's going to increase because in a short period of time, the Douglas County projects that Castle Rock and surrounding areas are going to add another 60,000 users to its water system.
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60,000.
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So infrastructure is something else that I think is going to be a consideration here. We have a topic. Remember Mike, the nice fellow that we had on air and we interviewed and gave us some really helpful insight and information? He shared something with me I want to share with you. So everybody in the news, you heard about Mr. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy Jr., wants to phase out artificial food dyes. And one of them that he wants to phase out is called Red 40, also known as... Allura Red AC is a synthetic food diet that can be found in wastewater. The presence of Red 40 in wastewater is a concern due to its potential adverse effects, including DNA damage and inflammation. And in fact, it can alter the structure of brain cells, potentially impacting memory, attention, and learning. Did you understand what we just said right there? That's serious. Why would they use a food additive that could create a synthetic food dye that could affect you and cause DNA damage? DNA. That's basically your structure of life is DNA, right? That's what makes who you are is your DNA, right? It can also cause inflammation. It can cause damage to the brain that can impact memory and attention and learning. And this is something that's in our wastewater. So that's why I say I think every single contamination issue that we're dealing with is basically forever. Remember this. This is a recap. I've shared this before, but I think it speaks volumes to the situation that we're dealing with here. When we first learned about the forever chemicals, now I first learned about them about a year ago where they started doing a webinar. The EPA sponsored a webinar about the PFAS contamination. And they started out by wanting to limit the maximum contamination of forever chemicals. And now there's over 187 chemicals, and it's probably going to increase, but over 187 chemicals that fall into the PFAS or forever chemical family. So they started out by saying that the maximum contamination level is one part P. And we played snippets of shows that we shared with you, and we learned that one part per billion is one drop of contaminant in an Olympic sized swimming pool. That doesn't seem a lot, does it? But that alone is enough to be a contamination concern and a health effect. Then, as the study went on and the summer went on, the EPA changed and said, okay, instead of one part per billion, we want to get it down to four part per trillion. Part per trillion. That's pretty small. You got one part per billion, and then now they want it down to four part per trillion. And then by the end of their webinar series for contamination, PFAS contamination, they disclosed that the maximum contamination level for Forever Chemicals should be zero. Now, the question is how will our local municipalities be able to remove the forever chemicals from our water supply. Because the EPA, and I haven't seen anything that says this has changed yet, the EPA has until 2029 to eliminate all forever chemicals out of water resources that the municipalities are going to use to provide public water source And if they don't meet the standards, then the EPA has the ability to find that public water source or even a private water source. So we know to remove the forever chemicals, we can use granulated activated carbon. We could use reverse osmosis membranes. We can use anion resin filtration. Let's think about this, and here's the recap. So when you have a municipal water source and they're taking out all that bad stuff, like the forever chemicals, is there a filtration media setup or system that they can properly put in place? And what that means is if you're trying to treat water and you're having it come through a 3-inch or a 6-inch water main, can you imagine the flow rate? We're talking several hundred gallons per minute. So you would have to have a water filtration system that could filter several hundred gallons per minute. And that has to be a monstrous size. But then the problem is, what are you going to do with the wastewater? And the wastewater comes from that filtration media is going to have to be cleaned. It's going to have to be rinsed. We used an example. of there's some municipal water sources here locally in the metro area that use giant reverse osmosis filtration systems. But one of the problems are is what do you do with the wastewater from a reverse osmosis filtration system? So the wastewater is going to be all those chemical contaminants that they remove. One source, one thing that we found out, and it really shocked me, is that in some cases, they will drill a hole right into an aquifer and inject all that wastewater into an aquifer. Thus, they refill the aquifer, but they're refilling the aquifer with contaminated water. So when you're talking about water filtration, and we're talking about water filtration on a grand scale, A municipality can only do so much. The problem is, and the reason why they can only do so much is because we create a bigger issue if we're trying to have them do water filtration, the wastewater alone. So what wastewater is, is when you use a filtration media like granular activated carbon, reverse osmosis, or even anion resin, you're going to have a waste byproduct because that media will have to be refreshed, will have to be rinsed. It's not like one big giant sponge. And so because of that, then you have to figure out what you're going to do with all that basically contaminated water. So right now what a waste treatment plant does is that they do their very best to remove certain contaminants. Others they can't. So then what they do is they try to disinfect the contaminant by using chlorine or chloramine. And that's also designed to break down and destroy bacteria. Now, another thing we learned that I was surprised is that the chlorination, using chlorine or ammonia, the chloramine, it doesn't kill the bacteria, but it sterilizes it. And I thought for sure, you know, I guess by sterilizing it, technically you're killing it. But I thought that was like instant killing of the bacteria. So which makes sense then, you know, why viruses, they would test viruses during COVID. You remember, they would walk around, go to a waste treatment plant, and COVID would test positive in the neighborhood at the waste treatment. The reason being then is because it's not 100% full proof of killing bacteria. the bacterial virus as it is to sterilize it. If you have any questions, I'd love to answer them. You can give me a call here. Our number is 303-477-5600. And the other thing I wanted to cover going to is that we also talked about people who live on well water. And I remember last week I was I was mentioning that we had and we had a guest on that, you know, is renting a home and his quality of water is not sustainable or is not acceptable to certain EPA drinking water standards. And, you know, his landlord was really unwilling to do anything about it. So I called the state health department and they finally called me back this week and I had a very nice conversation with him. And it's true. Unfortunately, right now in the state of Colorado, there is no law on the books that mandates that a landlord has to provide safe drinking water. So, as I said last week, I recommend drinking. If you're looking at renting and you're going to be moving out to the country and you're going to be moving out to a home that, you know, in the mountains or foothills, anywhere that has a well, I would A, get the water tested, B, based upon the water quality, Have it written in the lease that the landlord is going to help you with water quality or water filtration mitigation or give you permission to put in a water filtration system if needed. We were in a home outside of Wellington, Pierce, Colorado. It's a rental property and the iron content was so bad that it was ruining the renter's wash machines. And, you know, there was creating orange staining all over the place. It was just a mess. And the landlord, this landlord was kind enough to say, yeah, hey, let's do something about it, which is good. And because the landlord knows that, you know, water like that is not only going to ruin the renter's washing machine. It's also going to play havoc on the hot water heater. It's going to ruin the dishwasher. It's going to plug up the plumbing. And it's going to attack the bathroom, you know, tile in the tub. And it's going to stain everything. So it's something that it's in the landlord's benefit to treat the problem because it's going to save, you know, overall and long-term maintenance. So my recommendation, my strong recommendation is anybody that's renting and you're on well water, I would absolutely... Have it in your lease, something that addresses the water quality and the landlord willing to accept responsibility to ensure that you have, you know, safe, good, clean drinking water. And two things you have to worry about when you're in well water is the total dissolved solid level. You want to make sure that that's below 500. That's the EPA standard. And you also want to make sure it's free from coliform bacteria because coliform bacteria is a precursor to other contaminants as well. So just keep that in mind. And I think in today's landscape, it's an ultra competitive as far as, you know, real estate goes. But I think everybody should insist that they have clean quality drinking water. Let's take our first time out. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to Water Talk. So let's do an exercise together. Let's everybody, if you have it, get a clear piece of paper and a pen, and I want you to draw a great big circle. Now inside that circle, let's say that represents a subdivision where all the homes are on well water. And so you go ahead and fill that circle up with X's and those X's are going to represent homes. And so when you do that, basically every home has their own well and every home has their own septic and leach field. So one thing that we know about water is when water drains underground, you can't control where it goes. Water has the ability to find its own path. You know, sometimes I think water has its own intelligence. But water will find its own way. And so my point is, is that as you live in this subdivision with your individual well and your individual leach field and septic system, don't you think it could be a possibility, especially now in the springtime when we get a heavy rainstorm, that there could be a possibility of cross-contamination, meaning that somebody else's leach field could be in a close proximity to somebody else's well? Why don't you do that? Next time you go home and you live in an area that is a subdivision where everybody has their own well and septic system, take a look at where the leach field is to where your well is. and vice versa for, you know, your neighbors. Because what can happen is when you get heavy moisture, and especially after, you know, let's say a dry period where the ground is a little bit hard and it doesn't, you know, saturate the moisture as quick as it does if we're used to, you know, rainy season, then we can get what's called cross-contamination, meaning that the water from somebody else's leach field and septic system can go right into... your well could get right into the well cavity or your own little aquifer. So your own little aquifer, what I mean by that is, is that everybody that you drill a well, well depths can vary from as deep as 900 feet to 300 feet. So I call that little cavity where your pump is set, it's called that little cavity that accesses the aquifer where your water comes from. You know, you have a casing there. steel casing that goes so far that you know in depth the casing that basically Sticks above ground that you see mainly, you know cast iron steel And that doesn't go to the whole depth of the well and so your well pump is set basically below that casing So, you know in theory you could have contamination and when you have contamination It could be in the form of coliform bacteria. So that's something to consider. I think everybody should think about that lives out in well water and that lives in a subdivision, you know, that we're talking about. Should think about using a whole house for not only, excuse me, a whole house ultraviolet light filtration system. A UV, I think, is a smart thing to have when you're on well water in a community like that. I think well water, you know, applications, you know, you should get your water tested once a year. Well water quality can change. It will not stay the same. You know, in the 30 plus years I've been here in Colorado and wait a minute. This reminds me, I want to say hi to some folks. There's Robbie and JD. They worked for a company years ago. And when I worked for them, this was a long, long time ago. They were known as Pyramid Water Systems. But I want to say hi to the folks at AquaServe. They are a competitor. I will say that. But, you know, they're a great bunch of people. And I do love working with them because they provide me with wholesale products. I like using local people. So I just wanted to say hi to them. And thank you to everybody at AquaServe for, you know, all the great service that you help with WaterPro. So I wanted to say hi to those guys before I forget. But, you know, one of the things that, you know, back to my topic here is, We have to take the blinders off and not assume that all my water is safe. And we have to look at, take the common sense approach. And when you're in a neighborhood like that, you really should stop and pay attention and look at where your well is compared to somebody else's leach field and septic system and see if there's a possibility. And if you do have coliform bacteria, that could be the source of it. We were at a home outside of Castle Rock. where coliform bacteria is present. And that could also be, you know, an agriculture issue with farm animals. And it could be a scenario where, you know, if you had, you know, long-term, you know, animal usage where there was grazing or even where we call livestock pens, you know, you could be a scenario where, you know, groundwater contamination could get into your well. I mean, that's absolutely, you know, a possibility, a plausibility. So they have coliform bacteria. They have iron content. They have hardness. It's smelly water. We're going to help them out. We're going to put in a dual tank matrix system. The matrix or the, which is where we use KDF 85 activated carbon in the top chamber and resin in the bottom chamber. And when you're in well water, You want to use a dual tank system because during the, you know, when you're doing water treatment or water filtration, think about this. A lot of other companies out there like putting single tank systems in, you know, you have a single tank water softener, then you have a single tank filter for the iron content. You have a single tank filter for the sulfur. And out of all three of those units, what type of water do they use in the cleaning cycle? So a water filter system, by any kind of backwashing filter system, what kind of water do they use when you're a single tank? The same dirty water. It doesn't make sense, does it? So your water softener is going to get upside down because it's using the same dirty water to try to clean itself and And so that doesn't work very well. And then you have the iron system where you're trying to clean out ferrous iron. And the filter media that you use in these iron filter systems are usually pretty heavy. So there's no lift. There's no agitation of that filter media. Same with the sulfur system. And so what happens is, is that all three of these units fail because they use the same dirty, stinky water to try to rinse themselves with. And then you end up getting more contamination accumulation coming out of that filter media than what's coming out of your well by itself. So we have a dual tank multimedia system. The KDF85 inactivated carbon will help with the stinky sulfur smell, also will help with the iron. Resin loves, fares iron and hardness. And then the other thing we do differently is that when we go through the cleaning process or the cleaning cycle, we do what's called countercurrent regeneration. And what does that mean? So normally a filtration system cleans from the top to the bottom. And as it gets to the bottom, it goes through a little distributor tube and goes into your home. So when we go through a cleaning cycle, we actually filter the media from the bottom to the top. So then that means that the activated carbon, the KDF85, will get cleaned in soft water, and all the contaminants will help get rinsed off and flush down the drain. And so that's something that, you know, adds in successful filtration, eliminating the smell, the iron, and the hardness, but also protects and adds to the lifespan of the filtration media. So, in recap... Think about cross-contamination. Now, when you live in a community in a neighborhood that everybody has their own well and septic. Now, when you live out in a rural area where you're by yourself and you have distance between your home and somebody else's home, then you really need to think about and consider what's filling up my aquifer. Because that's something that I never thought about. And two weeks ago, when Mike was able to basically tell us that they inject the water right into the ground to fill up aquifers, the water they're injecting is dirty contaminated water. Think about them, anything that goes from the waste treatment plant And it goes right back to the plat. It goes right back to another body of water. This is disinfection byproducts. Now, we've used this brochure before, this pamphlet from the EPA. It's called the National Primary Drink and Water Regulations. And when I, you know, turn to disinfection byproducts, the first thing that comes is called bromate. And bromate can, you know, cause an increased risk of cancer, potentially health effects from long-term exposure. So there's no minimum or maximum contamination level. It's basically at zero is what recommended. And it's a byproduct of drinking water disinfection. So let's go. to a water quality report that I have that's from an estate out, let's say in Brighton area, out east. They're all on a public well. And so the public well means that the homeowners association most likely hires an independent to monitor the well and test the well. And one of the things that I noticed right off the bat from this statement, you know, I guess you can call it a statement, but it's the water quality report, is that they had violations. The violations, they call it non-health-based violations, and I'll read it right off this paper. It says, these violations do not usually mean there is a problem with water quality. Listen to the wording, usually mean. If there had been, we would have notified you immediately. And so what they did is they missed collecting samples, water quality, and reporting the samples results after the due date. So apparently when you run a municipality water supply and it says, the state says anything that has 15 or more homes, then you technically qualify as a municipal water supply. And so what happens there is that you have to, you know, monitor the water and send in the samples and then, you know, get the results. And when you fail to do that, then you're in violation. And some of the sampling or testing that they were laid on were for vital organics, synthetic organics, public notice, failure to notify the public consumer. So that means that something happened in the water that they failed to notify the public about. they failed to do a nitrate test, a gross alpha, fluoride group, combined uranium, and combined radium. So these are all things that were supposed to be tested that weren't tested, and then because they weren't tested, they met the deadline, and they also got, you know, in trouble for not notifying the consumers. So... Anybody that has a HOA that hires someone to monitor your public well, I would definitely pay attention to the water quality report and I would look through it and then I would answer the questions. Or excuse me, ask the questions, the tough questions that need to be answered. So I wanted to share that with you. So when we're talking about Water contamination and the quality of our water and with well water, it's important to realize, again, I'm being repetitive, that every single one of us is technically in a reusable water state. Let's take a quick commercial. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to Water Talk. I'm Paul the Water Man. Glad to have you with me this afternoon. So if you're just joining us, let's do a quick recap. So one of the things that I wanted to share with you, and this comes from our friend Mike. He was the fellow that was in the studio with us a couple weeks ago, and we learned a wealth of information from him. He brought to my attention regarding this food additive, which Robert Kennedy is absolutely trying to do away with. It's the Red 40, also known as Allura Red A.C., is a synthetic food dye that can be found in wastewater. The presence of Red 40 in wastewater is a concern due to its potential adverse effects, including potential DNA damage and inflammation and the fact that it can alter the structure of brain cells, impacting memory, attention, and learning. That's found in wastewater. That's why I said I think everything that's in our water supply technically is forever. Pharmaceuticals. Let's go back. Remember pharmaceuticals. Remember that every single over-the-counter pharmaceutical test in our drinking water, wastewater systems, every single pharmaceutical, and to the point. where even when a new, you know, water system is being, you know, developed. So if you go up in the mountains and you see, you know, like, you know, go by Granby. Is it Granby Lake, Lake Granby? You see those waterways out there where you know they're drawing water to feed the public. Even those bodies of water, Chatfield, Platt, are testing positive for over-the-counter pharmaceuticals. And it's something that we really need to think about because, you know, we've been talking about three main topics. You know, we're talking about the forever chemicals. We're talking about microplastics. You know, the plastics, you know, have penetrated. They're now into our brain. They're so small that they're penetrating our brain. meaning they're getting into our brain tissue. So we have nanoplastics that have basically, in every aspect of human organs, from the reproductive system, the digestive system, and now into our brain, and also they've been found in the arteries that feed our heart. That's pretty scary. And with the other contamination concern that we want to talk about today, hang on, it doesn't want to cooperate with me. Give me one second. I want to get to my iPad here. I want to talk about 1,4-Dioxin. Here we go. So 1,4-Dioxin is something that we mentioned before. It's a synthetic organic compound that was first synthesized in 1863. So since 1863, it's been in our water supply. Historically, it was primarily used as a stabilizer for chlorinated solvents. However, its use has evolved over time, and now it's found as a contaminant in many consumer products. That's the soaps and shampoos and makeup. And yes, 1,4-doxin can be found in drinking water. So 1,4-doxin has been used in public applications since the early 20th century and then in commercial sales since the 1950s. It's widespread. It's used, peaked in the mid-'80s. It was used for primary stabilizing other solvents. So this is something that it's been used. It was first used and developed in 1863. Now, wouldn't we say the first public water system shortly was developed after that? And it's a contaminant. So you figure 1863, right? 1963, 2063, we're over 200 and almost 230 years of this contamination being active in our society. So can you imagine the concentration levels that it would be in our water supply because it doesn't disappear. It doesn't go away. It's a forever chemical. And it's known to be irritating to the skin, eyes, and respiratory tract. More concerning, it can cause serious damage to liver, kidneys, with high exposure. So they do not test for 1,4-dioxins. And why do I say that? Because it's an unregulated contaminant by the EPA. And why it's an unregulated contaminant is beyond me. Because they've known about this forever, basically. Doxins can stay in the body for a very long time with a half-life estimated between 7 to 10 years. But, you know, if you're always putting it in your body, it's never going to go away. The EPA has classified it as a likely carcinogen, meaning that it could potentially cause cancer. Trace amounts of 1,4-doxin in products like shampoos, detergents, body washes, and even baby products. Because it's a byproduct in manufacturing, it's not always listed on the ingredient label, making it tricky to avoid. Some of the laundry soap that has 1,4-doxin is used in my home, and that's Tide. And gain. And then body washes. And one for dachshunds found in Victoria's Secret and Olay. This soap is Dawn dish soap, most commonly used. So these are the contaminants, and I just wanted to cover this quickly because, you know, we really need to switch to pure soaps, pure soaps that have no additives or ingredients, just 100% soap. See, water filtration and water treatment and water softening can be a benefit to our water resources. But then, you know, here's the pickle on this. So when we're filtering the water, either at home or let's say we have our municipality filter the water for us, what's going to happen to that wastewater? That wastewater is going back down into the drain. And it goes into the waste treatment plant, and then the waste treatment plant is going to take that same contaminant and put it right back into the body of water where we draw it from. So what we're going to have to do is stop using these contaminants And slowly but surely, maybe not for us, but for future generations, create a water source that eventually doesn't have these types of issues to deal with. But it's all going to start by us addressing it today. The microplastic, nanoplastic problem. You know what gets me? Is that it's something that plastic lasts forever. Have you guys taken, take a plastic fork and set it outside? set it outside and see how long it lasts and then take a nail and set it right next to it and see what happens between the nail and the plastic fork. So we, you know, we need to get rid of plastic wrap. We need to get rid of plastic bottles. We need to get rid of plastic, you know, everything's plastic. You know, the, the, the potato chips, you know, come in a form of plastic. That's something that we have to rethink back in the day when I was a youngster and during my you know mother and father's generation and grandparents generation before plastics were widely used How did they distribute products? It was wrapped in basically wax paper and cardboard or was in a metal container So cardboard breaks down wax paper breaks down and Even aluminum foil breaks down, but not plastic. So the mistake is when you do water filtration, and we talked to Mike about this, our guest the other week. Reverse osmosis membranes are nanofiltration. But when you don't pre-treat, reverse osmosis membranes are not designed to filter hard water. Hard water beats them up. And so an RO membrane is wrapped like a roll of paper towels. So look at a roll of paper towels, and as it's wrapped in layers, right? So that's where the reverse osmosis membrane is. So every layer that the water goes through, the greater the contamination reduction. And then at the center is a distribution tube where the water goes through. But when you use reverse osmosis membranes to filter out hard water, What happens? The calcium, because you're slowing the water flow rate down, right? And even these commercial systems, you know, they use a pump to try to basically force the water through. So you figure commercial membrane, you know, osmosis system probably has an electric pump that's pumping the water through about 12 gallons per minute. And then you've got several series of membranes in line. But when the hard water builds up on that membrane and oxidizes, it stays. And so when the plastic hits those calcium deposits, it's not dissolved. They break and get smaller, and then they pass on through the membrane. Or then the membrane... starts to disintegrate. And that's how, remember this, when they exposed the bottled water industry for plastics and microplastics, they also, in the articles, every single article I read, also said that they found nylon fibers, which is the reverse osmosis membrane as well. And so that means that the manufacturing practices created this issue. So plastics aren't absorbed when you try to use hard water through reverse osmosis systems. Now, in a residential point-of-use application, that's the reverse osmosis that goes underneath your kitchen sink. One, you're not using a pump to push the water through, okay? You're letting basically your water pressure, and it goes through a quarter-inch line, and it's fed naturally. I say naturally. It's not forced. So then the membranes... aren't being forced to issue something that they're not designed to. But two, hard water will still affect their production. Three, if you have hard water, you should change that membrane once a year at minimum based upon your water hardness. So that's where we recommend soft water. is the first stage in water filtration because any other filter system supported by soft water will do its job. Hard water is the monster. Hard water destroys everything. Hard water breaks down activated carbon. Hard water can build up on any other filter media, filter system. And let's go back to where we were talking about well water. Well water... People put in filters and they put in carbon filters or they put in five micron sediment filters. And when you have iron in the water, that iron oxidizes inside that filter housing and it builds up and they know they need to change the filter because the water pressure drops. And remember this, well pumps are not designed to push against resistance. That's something that I just want to remind everybody. Well pumps... are not designed to push against resistance so carbon filters a lot of people i've seen put these big blue filter housings and put carbon filters in and carbon filters are really great at slowing the water flow down and really great to have the iron oxidized all over that filter and that filter housing and then same thing slows the flow rate down stresses the pump So we've talked about a lot today, kind of a recap, and I appreciate everybody's patience with me. But it all starts with us taking the common sense approach. when it looks at, you know, looking at our water, possibilities of how our water could be contaminated, and think outside the box. Look at, you know, when you live up in the foothills and, you know, you have well water, the water, you know, goes through basically layers of rocks, cracks in rocks, in the rock formation. that basically fill up your cavity. I wouldn't call, I don't think anybody that lives in the mountains at high elevation can say they have an aquifer. They have a body of water, a pocket that the water's collected to. And as that water sits in that rock, what happens? It decays the rock. And as it's decaying the rock, that's where you get uranium contamination. One of the things that, you know, I'm very proud of is that we have a lot of folks up in the Cold Creek Canyon area that have high uranium. And we were able to set up, you know, uranium systems that basically got the levels down to non-traceable. And, you know, that's with an anion system. And then you have to have a water softener because anion resin cannot filter out and deal with hard waters. You've got a water softener with an anion system, and then we also, you know, help out with radon gas. So, you know, water pros, you know, we can come up with the right solution. We'll work really hard, you know, and we take the smart approach of let's see what the water quality test and then, We explain to you what stage and what process has to be done to be successful. Let's take our final break.
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Welcome back to Water Talk. I'm Paul the Waterman. Thank you for being with me. So now I'm going to wrap it up today by talking about dioxins. Another contaminant that we should be worried about. Dioxins. D-I-O-X-I-N-S. have been in our public concern since the late 1970s and early 1980s, especially after health effects. This is something that they used in Agent Orange, became widely known. The EPA and other regulatory bodies have since worked to reduce dioxin emissions and contamination. There are a group of chemicals related in compounds known as polychlorinated dibenzopredioxins. That's a mouthful, isn't it? And see the similarity of the polychlorinated where the PFAS are polyfluorinated, I believe? The toxins are not intentionally produced but are byproducts of processes like waste incineration, chemical manufacturing, and paper bleaching. So they are highly toxic. And this is something that is also in our water supply. See, that's why I started the show by I said I think, you know, every single contamination issue or concern that we have today technically is forever. It's a forever concern. Cancer, dioxins are classified as known as a human carcinogen. Long-term exposure to even low levels of dioxins can increase the risk in developing cancer. Reproductive development problems. And so it can cause issues in reduced fertility developmental issues in the fetus. Pregnant women exposed to toxins may face higher risk of birth defects. So this is in the grand scale of things, as I'm reading this and going over this with you now, I really think there's really, it's only up to us. Here's something on a side note. You know, if you can go out and get a tax rebate for solar panels, and I even hear you can get a tax rebate if you buy an e-bike, I think they should give us tax rebates to get our own water filtration. So what I was saying earlier in the show, when you have water treatment, water filtration, you're taking out the contaminants, and the contaminants either in your home or at a municipal water station. The contaminants are going to go somewhere. And so the contaminants at home go down the drain, go in the waste treatment plant. The waste treatment plant takes that contaminant out of the water as they take the solids out in the solids or the bio waste. And that's basically put back into the water resources that, you know, we still draw from. So the only way to stop and quit this nonsense of an ever evolving cycle of water contamination is to, you know, soft water eliminates the need for a majority of the cleaning products that contaminate our water supply. It cuts back on laundry soaps and cleaners and dishwashing soaps. The other thing is that if we stop the use of plastics, remember we cut that down, then eventually what will happen is we'll gain ground. But this is a generational issue. This is something that's not going to happen overnight. This is something that we have to look at. To save our water resources, we really have to have this become a public awareness. If we're coming into a state election cycle, you know, they're talking about, you know, is the governor's race in Colorado going to is that next year? Are we going to have a slew of state and local races that we need to? you know, pay attention to. We need to bring this to the forefront. This has to be a topic that's debated. This has to have a game plan. But this is a generational issue. You're not just going to solve this water contamination problem, you know, by simply, you know, doing a filtration system, you know, and try to design a grand filtration system because then you have the wastewater. It has to be a complete thorough thought through process. I'm wondering if we shouldn't ask for tax credits for water filtration systems in our homes so we can treat our water because everybody deserves clean water. And then what we have to do is come up with a legitimate, workable process of treating the wastewater that the water treatment plants put backs in. Remember this. If a water treatment plant, and I believe there's one in Aurora, that uses reverse osmosis technology, and I think there's one in Brighton too, and if you take the byproduct of the reverse osmosis, that dirty water, that's all the contaminant and crud they pulled out of the water, and you inject that in the ground back into an aquifer, are you not contaminating that aquifer? Are you not giving false sense of security? If you don't broadcast this, if you don't put this out to the public, then are you not giving somebody a false sense of security thinking, hey, you know, I'm in well water. I got an aquifer. Hey, this is great. This is where I'm at the lower Dawson. This is something that we, you know, has to be discussed. And I wonder if they don't do it because of, you know, creating an alarm issue. But everybody needs to know, you know, like the water quality report that I read to you, At least they were honest about it. At least they pointed out they called it non-health-based violations, but they listed it. And the one thing that they listed that they didn't elaborate on was public notice, failure to notify the public consumer. And what was that about? And when you fail to test the water in a timely manner, That possibly, you know, a bunch of safety violations you just don't know. You're kind of flying blind. One of the things about dioxins, let's go back to this real quick that I want to point out, is that they can also affect meat and dairy products because dioxins accumulate in the fatty tissue of animals. Fish and shellfish, these can be contaminated through water pollution. So it's not only in the drinking water, but it's, you know, same thing in the food that we eat. Certain chlorinated organic compounds can contain dioxins. You know, backyard burning, burning trash in the backyard releases dioxins into the environment. I remember as a kid, I lived out in the rural area. We didn't have garbage picked up. We had a big trash barrel. So, you know, this is a contamination issue that's been, you know, going on for years. So 1,4-dioxin, 1,4-dioxin started in 1863. Forever Chemicals, the PFAS, they first started reporting that and knowing that it was in the human blood in the 1970s. So, you know, now we have the microplastics, the nanoplastics, and then we have the pharmaceuticals. And that's something that we're going to focus on next is all the pharmaceutical contamination because we need to know. You know, when you take a medication... And then you drink your water and the water has a medication that could counteract or create a reaction, a negative reaction to the medication that you're taking. And if they over-prescribe you a medication, you know, think about this. If you take a dietary supplement, and that dietary supplement or medication creates, causes you to have, and you have perfectly high blood pressure. Let me start again. You've got great blood pressure. Your blood pressure is normal. And then you take a medication to lose weight. And then that medication, one of the side effects is to create high blood pressure. So now you've got to take a blood pressure medication. So all the medication that you take, Your body expels and you flush it down the toilet and it ends up in the water supply. Estrogen is in the water supply because of birth control. So what are their pharmaceuticals? We're going to take our team and we're going to dive into that. And that's going to be our next goal is to come up with and let you know of the major pharmaceutical contamination that's in the water supply. Because it's there and we know it's there. And we have to, you know, pay attention to it. So... Everything starts with your free water test. Give us a call at 303-862-5554. We'll come out and do a free in-home water test. We'll test for water hardness and total chlorine content. And once again, I was in a home in Aurora, and we did the total chlorine test off of Jewel, I believe. And the chlorine content out of the cold water was a half part per million, but then the chlorine content coming out of the hot water heater was one part per million. So remember, it's a chloramine. It doesn't dissipate. So if it doesn't dissipate, it will build up in that hot water heater. So these are things to consider. So with the water softener, the water softener helps with the reverse osmosis, and the reverse osmosis system can function properly because it's not going to get occupied or beat up by hard water. Secondly, I'm going to go back and recap and recommend that everybody that's thinking about renting a house On well water, make sure you get a water quality report or water test. Make sure you test for total dissolved solids. You want to test for E. coli. And understand what the hardness and iron content is because that's something that if you're not used to it, it's going to be there and it could be a factor. And if it is a factor, you know, when you go and you look at a home, take the lid off the back of the toilet tank and the water that you see in that toilet tank is the quality of water that you're going to have. All right, I hear the music. Our time is up. Boy, this is the fastest hour, isn't it? Thank you for listening. Everybody, have a great day.
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In this episode of Best Stocks Now, we dissect the week’s financial events with a special focus on the relationship between U.S. markets and global trade policies. Hear from Bill Gundersen as he offers an expert analysis of the earnings season and discusses the economic implications for major sectors like technology and automotive. Additionally, discover insights into upcoming workshops and how they can benefit your investment journey.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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Good morning and welcome to the April 24th edition of the Best Docs Now show. We should have Bill coming up here in just a moment with connectivity issues. But the good news is, market-wise, we've got some green on the screen here. We've got the Dow up just about 31 points. It's the laggard out there right now. We've got the S&P 500 up. 41 points, that's 0.77% at the moment. And we've got the NASDAQ leading the way again, up 1.4%. That's 233 points, just under that 17,000 range at 16,940. We've got oil up to $62.72. That's up 0.7%. Gold still in the red, down $8.25%. Bitcoin showing a little bit of a risk-off move, I guess, in the crypto world, down just over half a percent here as we begin the April 24th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. Again, I'm your host at the moment, Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital. And we should have Bill joining us here in a moment on the show. But in terms of market, we continue to get a solid rally there. Yesterday, certainly, the market was a pretty good one here. We had move-wise in the NASDAQ yesterday and yesterday. And today we're starting out strong. Hey, Bill, we got you there.
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Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with my microphone. You know what? The Internet, computer stuff, it's never the same. But anyway, hey, we're off to a pretty good start here today in the markets. We had a good day yesterday. The Dow was up 420. The NASDAQ was up 407 yesterday. Really good day for the NASDAQ yesterday. Although, you know, we were up a lot higher earlier in the day. The Dow was up about 1,000. And then it started to give up the ghost. Still ended up 400. I'm not seeing any progress between us and China. I think that's the biggest issue right now. And I did listen to Trump's news conference last night. And, of course, China themselves saying that there's no progress being made or no talks underway at the current time. But you know what? The good news is earnings trump, trump. And earnings have been really, really good coming in here recently. And it's a very good earnings season. You know, I can't remember the last bad earnings season. You've got to go back to it. 08 and 09 to find a bad earnings season. Once again, I've seen about 70% of companies that are reporting they're beating their earnings estimates. I've seen a few that are in the line of fire of the tariffs. I think today Procter & Gamble was one of those. And of course, They can also use the tariffs as an excuse for a lousy report. I've seen some of them too badly.
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That is true. It gives them an out, right?
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Yeah. So, like, you know, when the salesmen check in and report to the boss and they don't meet their numbers, well, it's the tariff war, you know, that is hurting us right now. You just don't know. But anyways, most companies, 70% are beating tariffs. their earnings estimates. Now, on Tuesday, at the end of the day, it was Scott Besant that said there was progress being made. That was behind closed doors. But as soon as the doors opened, somebody leaked that, especially in the semiconductor sector, things were going to get resolved because the situation was not sustainable. And the semiconductor stocks have had a pretty good rally here over the last couple of days. And today you had earnings from Lam Research, which we'll get to in a bit. That's a big company in that industry. And they reported stellar results. You had a company out of South Korea, which makes those high-bandwidth memory chips, saying that business is off the charts right now with NVIDIA. And you had a blockbuster report. I'm going to call it the earnings report of the day from ServiceNow.com. which is really blowing up the software stocks, and we continue to like that software sector. So that's helping a lot. China is calling on the U.S. to lift all unilateral tariffs and stated that no trade deal negotiations were currently underway. Now, that seems to be a little bit contrary to what we're hearing on this side of the pond that we talk every day. And I think that's who knows where the truth lies. I'm sure there's negotiations going on in the background. But Trump has definitely softened his rhetoric. We've come down from that 140 where it's at now. And they're saying, yes, it's definitely going to come down from there. Well, there's no question that it will do that. But China says there are absolutely no negotiations on the economy and trade between China and the U.S., all right? And their trade representative said if the U.S. really wants to resolve the problem, it should cancel all the unilateral measures on China. Well, my question to China would be, are you willing to lower all your tariffs on the U.S. to zero? What are you offering China? on your side of the equation. And, of course, Besson, again, he signaled on Tuesday potential easing of tensions with China, but China is not really reaffirming that. Now, there is going to be a big G20 summit coming up. When is that? Let's see. I don't have the date yet. but it's in the very near future. Beijing will firmly support free trade rules. Well, we'll see. And the multilateral trading system at the meeting of G20 finance ministers and central bank governors in Washington, okay? China will adhere to opening up and promoting inclusive economic globalization their representative said. So anyways, we shall see if we can get anything at that. We'll have to look up that. Maybe you could look that up at the break, Barry, when that... Yeah, I got... It looks like G20 is the 20th...
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so it won't be until November. That one's in Johannesburg. But I think there's a meeting of the World Bank at the moment, too. I mean, there's a lot of folks in Washington at the moment, different finance ministers. I saw I think Ireland's, you know, the Irish finance minister was on, you know, one of the financial channels this morning. And so a lot of those people are in town, you know, making, you know, having those discussions around, you know, around D.C., I think.
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Yeah.
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Well, also, you know, Xi, President Xi has criticized us for undermining the multilateral trading system, but all you've got to do is look at the trade deficit, which is a trillion dollars a year almost between us and China, and they don't like the destabilizing of the global economic order. Well, I guess as long as it's tilted big time towards China, they're okay with that. But any disruption to that, they're not happy. Trump has reached out to the auto makers. The auto industry will be in Bloomfield Hills, Detroit, in a few months. And I will be announcing the dates here today. We've got it all lined up. Warrensville, Ohio, which is just outside of Cleveland, we'll be talking about that. That's about one month out from this week. But Trump is planning some tariff relief for the automakers. And, you know, they're kind of caught in the middle. That supply chain is not 100% U.S.-made parts and products. A lot of those parts, products made in China and, of course, Canada is a big contributor. I did hear him say last night that he doesn't want Canada making cars. He says we can handle that ourselves. Frankly, he says, I don't want Canada helping us make cars, so I don't know how well that goes over in Canada, but there's definitely a lot of the support, just across the river, obviously, from Detroit. you've got a lot of building going on in Canada, parts, and assembly work, too, on a lot of these cars. So that has to be worked out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, and some of the double tariff stuff, too, I think is you're trying to remove some where you might have, say, an imported steel, and then also you've got, say, an imported part, and then essentially you may pay... tariff on that same thing twice. And so there's certainly some how tariffs are calculated and, you know, is big for negotiation.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, there's got to be a result. Okay, when we come back, we'll talk about the earnings that will be coming in after the close today. And then we'll get to RoboTaxi and a lot of earnings reports that have come in since our show yesterday. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. We got that mic working, hopefully, here. Although I don't hear myself in my ears here. But that's okay. We can get by. Tuesday and Wednesday, May 20th and 21st, will be our Cleveland trip, our initial foray into the Cleveland area. I'm really looking forward to that. We'll be at the Marriott, the big Marriott out there in Warrensville, which is just west of downtown. So you don't have to fight that downtown traffic. And on Tuesday and Wednesday, we'll be meeting with the folks. We've got about 20 spots available. If you'd like to meet one-on-one with the crew, including myself, you can set up an appointment with Edie at 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST. The spots always go fast. They always fill up. Looking forward to it. Yes, 855-611-BEST. Wednesday night, I think it's Wednesday night. It's either Tuesday or Wednesday. I've got to verify that. I'm going to teach a workshop open to the public. It will start at 6.30 p.m. in Warrensville, Ohio there and end at 8 p.m. And I'll teach all about the current conditions of the market, the charting, valuations, and take questions from you. So invite your friends and come one, come all. And more likely it's going to be Tuesday, May the 20th. We'll just go with that right now. If it's different, I'll hear. But it's either Tuesday or Wednesday at 6.30 p.m. at the Warrensville Marriott, May 20th and May 21st. So I really look forward. We all do. Barry will be there. Jeff will be there. Edie will be there. Jennifer will be there. It's going to be a... Gunderhead's meat, right? Like the Deadheads.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and you said Tuesday. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Am I right?
SPEAKER 05 :
The note I got is the workshop on Tuesday. Okay, good.
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All right. Maybe we'll have some cookies or something. I don't know. We'll figure it all out, but that's where it's going to be. We finally nailed down the date and the place. Google's going to report earnings after the close tonight. That could be interesting. Intel's going to report earnings. We've already heard from Procter & Gamble. We've already heard from Pepsi and Merck and Freeport-McMoran and Dow Chemical and American Airlines, Comcast, Union Pacific. And we'll hear from T-Mobile tonight, and we'll hear from Agnico Eagle, which is a very important gold stock.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, the Google one will be interesting because of the data center side. We continue to hear on Amazon in terms of reducing some of their leases for data centers. You had Microsoft, remember, a couple weeks ago kind of mention some of the same stuff in terms of not moving as much of a pace maybe as they were initially. So Google also in that space, so it will be interesting to hear what they say.
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All right. And then tomorrow we're going to hear from Schlumberger. It has not been a very good environment for the oil and gas stocks here recently. I would say a lot of them are value plays at this point in time, however, because I see pretty rosy days ahead over the next three and a half years for the oil and gas industry. But tomorrow we'll hear from Phillips 66 and Schlumberger, which is a pretty big one in the oil service industry. Okay. Elon sure knows how to chase the short sellers out. You know, that chart has really firmed up on Tesla. I'm still afraid of Tesla, however, trading at 85 times next year's earnings and falling sales. This report that they had on Wednesday was not very good. Their sales were down 9% year over year. Some of that was fallout from him being involved with Doge. Earnings were down 40%, so they're having a hard time making money on their current lineup of cars.
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And that's just a tough business to be in. Talk to all of our Detroit clients. The auto business in general is not an easy business. It certainly is not an easy business at the moment for a lot of different reasons, and I guess we talk about robots and robo-taxi and all that for Tesla at some point down the road, but right now the actual business is not great.
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Rugged. Now, Tesla is up 20% since it's low in early April, but I have a hard time putting money in it right now. It is a very good chart. It's a sideways chart. It's perking up. It's building some momentum, but I just don't see the catalyst or the earnings. Even though Elon says eventually it will be... Bigger than the next four companies combined as far as market cap. Okay, he knows how to chase the short sellers out, that's for sure. Tesla starts testing robo-taxi service in Austin and the Bay Area. They're letting the employees test. I don't know about that. Here, you guys try it first. If we lose anybody, you can always be replaced, you know. But anyways, RoboTaxi, we still haven't really broken the code there with, you know, flawless RoboTaxi service. The race is on between Waymo and Uber. And, of course, Aurora Innovations. And speaking of which.
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I'll tell you, Waymo is pretty far. I mean, they're pretty solid. Yes. Far ahead, I had a family friend who had to go out to the Bay Area for a death in the family. And she was complaining about parking in front of the house a lot of times was a Waymo vehicle waiting to go pick somebody up. Like it would just park. It needs a place to stay and wait, right? And so these robot vehicles just basically parked in front of the unit for most of the time while she was there.
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Now, the guy didn't die in a Waymo, did he? I mean, or the body wasn't in the Waymo.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, it did not. It was natural causes. Yes, okay.
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Yeah, it's got to be weird to see a car parked out in front of your house with nobody in it, but the lights are on and it's ready to go. Oh, yeah, and it just pulls off. Weird. Yeah. Okay, Alphabet, that they will report tonight. And, of course, they are a big player there in autonomous, which is basically being tested right now in the Bay Area and Austin, Texas. Of course, a couple of big tech centers these days. And don't count out Aurora. They're going to try out self-driving trucks. Now, imagine... Think of all those trucks pulled over on the highway. They're grabbing some sleep. When you go down to Florida, Barry, I know you've probably seen it. It says there's a no parking sign like every six feet for like a mile. Have you seen that? No parking overnight. Why do they got to put so many signs like that?
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So no one can park.
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Yeah, but do we need that many reminders? No, I agree. It's kind of silly. Anyways, look, truckers, no hands. Aurora set to make headlines in Texas. Will we see the day that we get passed by a big semi-truck on a dangerous curve and nobody at the wheel? I don't know about that. Well, the earnings report of the day when we come back. This is the Best Stocks Now show. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show, where we saw that big sell-off on Monday on the old Jerome Powell-Trump public spat, mostly coming from Trump towards Powell. And eventually he knocked it off and quit calling him a loser. What else did he call him? A late to the party or something like that?
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He definitely said he's always late. He said he's always late. Yes.
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The market certainly did not like any suggestion of a non-independent Fed. And the market threw a big, big tantrum on that day. And then we've had some nice stabilization because it's returned to earnings, which it always does. The market returns to earnings. And that's what it is doing. And let's begin with the earnings report of the day here. I'm going to call it ServiceNow. Wow, look at that. Up 14.6%. Very well-run company. Bill McDermott, CEO. Been around.
SPEAKER 05 :
I didn't speak a little bit before the show. Big AI talk really was what he was talking about.
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Yes. Now, we currently do not own ServiceNow. It got hammered. I mean, ServiceNow went from 1,200... To 678.
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Software stocks in general. Oh, my gosh. The whole space has been beat down since February 17th.
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Now, obviously, it's on my shopping list. But, I mean, to go from $1,200 per share... That was as recent as late January, okay? And it landed at 678 about three weeks ago. That is a drop of 43.5%. Luckily, I have a cell discipline. We sold it at $9.39. After we sold it at $9.39, it went down to $6.78. And you could say, well, you should have just rode through it. now you know forty three percent that's stretching that you know i i have to travel find somewhere and now it's back almost to where we sold that it's at nine thirty two so it is up about forty five percent in the last couple two three weeks The valuation still looks good on it here at this level, but the bottom line on ServiceNow was that, let's see what their numbers look like here. He highlighted strong Q1 performance, noting a 20% year-over-year growth. In subscription revenue, I mean, that's one of the big pluses with a lot of the software stocks is it's recurring revenue. Their subscription revenue reached just over $3 billion, a record Q1 net new annual contract value. Okay, so that's new people coming in. That's good. The company completed 72 deals, exceeding $1 million in net new ACV, that's annual contract value, and nine surpassing $5 million. McDermott emphasized ServiceNow AI advancements, particularly in ProPlus solutions, which saw a four-fold increase in deals year over year. The RaptorDB database gained traction with five deals exceeding one million in net new ACV. So anyways, they're looking for 19% growth year over year going forward. That's a very, very solid report from ServiceNow. Of course, the symbol there is NOW, N-O-W.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, they're positioned well. He was also talking about being able to help. You know, say Doge or just, you know, the federal government improved their, you know, computing on the back end. I think that's one of the big things that Doge has ran into in terms of, you know, archaic payment systems, right? Yes. Old cobalt kind of coding, you know, kind of systems. And so... He was talking a bit about that, where they've got an opportunity to potentially do some work for the federal level also, which is another income stream for them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, Palantir also is well-positioned there, so is Krause. I'm thinking of that cave with, what, millions of paper documents and folders. That's how far behind the government is with their technology. And I'm sure companies like Oracle and ServiceNow and Palantir could definitely come along and make them a lot more efficient than what they are right now. Okay, now, going from high-tech, way high-tech, to Honey Chicken and Carne Asada... Chipotle Mexican Grill beats by one cent, revenue of $2.9 billion for the quarter. That's a lot of guacamole. Misses by $40 million. But they are pointing to – I think they have an affordability problem myself. I don't know what one of those bowls is – You probably know, Barry, I haven't been in there lately.
SPEAKER 05 :
They've got to be up around $12, $13. I haven't been in there in a while. It's like the one by us, they don't really – I mean, I always do the online ordering anyway, but there's no line in there anymore because I think they make everybody order on the app. It seems like it. So it seems a little – they push you in that direction pretty hard. Yes. I haven't been there in a while. I need to check it out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but I'm sure a loaded burrito has got to be up around $12, $13 in that foil wrapper. It's not cheap to eat at Chipotle. And with kids and whatnot. And they are opening a lot of these Chipotle lanes where it's a drive-thru. I think that's a big advance there. Most of their stores are not drive-thrus.
SPEAKER 05 :
I haven't seen one of those yet. Okay. No, not around here. But the thing is, they are, in terms of, say, tariff, so we've talked about this before, they're subject to avocado prices, and that creates that affordability issue, too, that you talked about.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, and they did also mention a weaker consumer, all right? So they're one of the companies. that is using the weak consumer, well, I'm just going to say that's the higher end. I mean, Kava, Chipotle, that's not the value menu at McDonald's or Jack in the Box, which have a lot cheaper offerings. They're competing for the big bucks, the college kid, you know, the teenagers with well-to-do parents, et cetera. IBM maintains 2025 guidance, okay, IBM, member of the Dow. IBM is actually down 5.3% right now, hence you've got the mixed market today. You've got the Dow down, the NASDAQ up. I just have not seen much innovation come from IBM. And look, the bottom line is growth. So what is causing the absolute lack of growth at IBM? And I usually have to point to innovation, number one, and management. Management, number two, or management, number one, and innovation, number two. They kind of go hand in hand. You've had sales over the last four quarters plus 2%, plus 1%, plus 1%, plus 1%. That's terrible growth, okay? And I understand it's a $215 billion company. How do you want us to keep growing, Gunderson? Out of Armonk, New York, that's where their headquarters are. I spent some time back at the IBM, one of their old campuses one time for some training. It's kind of interesting in that area, neck of the woods. But that is terrible growth. And, of course, with no growth in sales, you're not going to get much growth in earnings. Their last three quarters, plus 5% growth in earnings. This last quarter was plus 1%, and this quarter was minus 5%. And even though they do have new management there at IBM, a new guy at the top, Not much happening there yet out of IBM. Dividend yield right now, 3%. Yeah, 3% we'll call it is the dividend. Still a value trap. Value trap from my point of view. Okay, and then Procter & Gamble, which, and of course, now listen, when we get accounts from these big firms... They almost always have IBM, and they almost always have Procter & Gamble in them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Johnson & Johnson.
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Yes, and many others. And very seldom do you see ServiceNow, Palantir, CrowdStrike. Very, very seldom. They own IBM. Pfizer is the other dog that you see a lot. Pfizer, Merck. constantly abbott labs all right so let's go to another one here the pride of cincinnati procter and gamble down 4.4 percent today no growth two percent two percent growth you see the difference between a soggy stock stodgy old growth giant of yesteryear and a best stock now it's like night and day we'll be right back
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now. The phone lines are now open. 855-611-BEST.
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on either Tuesday or Wednesday, May 20th and May 21st at the Warrensville Marriott. And we'll all be there, the whole team, the Gunderson team will be there. You know, we have a lot of people. I've talked to many, many people here in Charleston. I think we're Ohio South. There are so many people in Ohio that either have a beach home or they've moved here from Ohio. Of course, there's a freeway that connects us, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
A lot of Buckeye folks strong during college football season.
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Yes, when Ohio State is playing.
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Worked out well for them this year.
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Yeah, I mean, there are happy campers this year. And so I'm going to be going the other way. We're going to be heading up to Ohio, to Cleveland. I'm really, really looking forward to it. And you know what? I don't always do the workshops, but I've never done one there. So Tuesday night at that Warrensville Marriott, we got a nice room, have some light refreshments. And if you'd like to reserve a spot for that and not an appointment, 855-611-BEST. 855-611-VEST or go to GundersenCapital.com. Now, when does the Dow say, let's kick IBM out? It's not really a representative of the software industry anymore. And let's put Palantir in. You know, Palantir is the same size as IBM. It's a quarter of a trillion dollars. Look at the chart on Palantir today. Isn't that amazing? Even how big is ServiceNow? ServiceNow is a little smaller than IBM, but it's a much more... current company in my book than IBM is and obviously when did they say Merck you haven't come up or Pfizer even worse Pfizer you haven't come up with anything in years I know you were there with that COVID vaccine we still don't really know if it was a vaccine or not that's questionable drop that in your lap let's put Lilly in there which may have the biggest drug of all time which could be in pill form pretty soon that's just me Okay, Procter & Gamble, member of the Dow, the pride of Cincinnati, not having a good time today, down 4.7%. And here again, soggy, soggy, soggy. What do I mean by soggy? Well, look at their earnings report. I mean, you can't hide behind an income statement that's lousy. You can't hide behind 2% growth. But then again, you say, well, how do you grow a $370 billion company? I don't know. NVIDIA did it. I don't know. Microsoft did it. I don't know. Tesla has done it. Procter & Gamble, $370 billion stuck in the mud. But, you know, it's a consumer staple, 2.7% the dividend yield. When we visited Cincinnati not that long ago, saw the Padres play there. I saw the Procter & Gamble headquarters there, pretty impressive. And a formidable company, yes. Use their products all the time, yes. But it's a lousy stock, what can I say? It is the epitome of soggy. Nothing against Cincinnati. Okay. They also warned a little bit. Let's see. They talked about a soft consumer, too. Well, you've got to blame something. Looking ahead, blah, blah, blah. Okay. They also talked a little bit about the tariffs impacting. Their business, they say they warned of the impact of the volatile consumer and geopolitical environment amid the trade war. So that's what they're blaming 2% growth on. But they've had 2% growth under Biden. They had 2% growth under Trump. Trump the first time, but that's what they're using as their reasoning for the soft report. Merck trims 2025 earnings outlook amid tariff impact. Okay, Merck is going to blame tariffs. And of course, Merck has had very little growth lately. Merck, I believe it's in the Dow PE ratio of 10. They come in with sales that were up 7% year over year. Horrible chart. Just a lifeless stock chart. I mean, why would anybody own Merck yet? That's a very widely held stock, $200 billion up there with IBM in size, about half the size of Procter & Gamble. Lilly, by contrast, is now almost a trillion dollars.
SPEAKER 05 :
Was I the guy that said? Yeah, Merck's in the Dow as well. Yeah, yeah.
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And Pfizer. Am I the guy that said Lilly's headed for a trillion? You can look up my article on Seeking Alpha. Lilly is four times the size of Merck. So I don't know, for whatever reason, maybe at the time it was put in the Dow, I'm sure it represented the pharmaceutical industry more than Lilly did. But this is 2025. And things have changed quite a bit since then. I would kick Merck out of the Dow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Two pharma ones in there is Johnson & Johnson and Merck.
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And Pfizer.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't see Pfizer in here. I'll keep... Okay, all right.
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And you've got UnitedHealthcare in there, too, which is a stink.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I saw that.
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Okay, the other worrisome sign, and they're blaming a weak consumer, the airlines. Okay, well, you know, traveling on an airline is not exactly a piece of cake these days. You get herded around like cattle. And I've never been on a flight. We've got a full flight. You better fight for that overhead bin, or we're going to have to leave it here in Cincinnati, and you'll have to come back and get it another day. But anyways, American Airlines, their loss widens. The airlines are having a tough time, and I don't know what to blame there. But they are up 1.5%, but they pulled their 2025 guidance. Has the tariff war hurt tourism? I don't know. Is there an anti-American backlash? I would think so. Anyways, well, we are out of time. We've finally pinned down Cleveland, Ohio. It will be Lakewood Ranch about a month after that. And then we're headed out to Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. And then we'll go from there, but you've got four weeks. Fill out the calendar. I like it. To book an appointment there while we're in Cleveland for two days on site and 855-611-BEST to get a four-week trial to the newsletter. I sent out some alerts here this morning. Today looks like a buying day to me. Yesterday was not. Monday was not. Tuesday was not. But I saw some things that were shaping up yesterday. We shall see. I do have some cash on the sidelines. To get a free four-week trial, go to GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com. View all six portfolios on a daily basis that I manage. Have a great day, everybody.
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Experience the heartwarming story of two old friends whose leap of faith led to a miraculous organ donation. Host Angie Austin also invites cybersecurity expert Ala Resnick to share invaluable advice on safeguarding against rising cyber threats, making this episode a perfect blend of personal triumphs and practical wisdom.
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Welcome to the Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with the Good News, here's Angie.
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Hello, Angie Austin and Jim Stovall here with the Good News. And today we are talking about betting on the past. His winner's wisdom column this week, betting on the past. Hey, Jim.
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Hey, it's good to be with you. And as you and some of your listeners know, I began my business career on Wall Street and I was an investment broker in You know, when you do that, you expose investors to a number of different investments, and they all come with this incomprehensible document you're supposed to give to people called a prospectus, which is supposed to explain everything, but it just confuses it. And it gives all the past history of the investment and how it's performed and all that sort of thing. And then right on the front of every prospectus is the statement, past performance does not indicate future results. And while that is true, it certainly doesn't ensure it, past performance is all we have. Whether you're looking at a friend, a loved one, an employee, an investment, or anything else, the only thing we have to predict the future is what we've done in the past. And it's amazing how good that is. Warren Buffett, several years ago, was at one of his investor conferences, and I remember being there, and he said, Somebody asked him, you know, what do you think will be the top-selling candy bar in the future? He said, Snickers. It's been number one for 40 years, and I don't see anything changing. And things like that rarely change. And that meeting was 15 years ago, and at the time I wrote this column, Snickers was still number one. And, you know, the best keep getting better. You know, that's the best way to bet is on the past. And we certainly can't guarantee anything, but it's the best way to know what to do.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love that. I love it. And it totally makes sense. I mean, he has such common sense. I love that about him. And also, I think, you know, I've heard, I think it's Dr. Phil, but other people say, you know, insanity is to keep doing what has, you know, not worked in the past and continuing doing it in the future. You know, that we also know we can learn a lot from the past in terms of what we might want to change.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, I had a good friend, and she was getting ready to marry a gentleman, and she mentioned his ex-wives. And that's not a term you really want to hear in a plural about somebody you care about. And I said, he's got two, and she said, actually, three. But in all three cases, he claims, you know, he married bad people. Well, there seems to be one common denominator here, and it's him. And, you know, I mentioned that. I said, with all due love and respect, this is something you need to think about. And she went ahead and married this guy, and less than two years later, he had had four ex-wives. And, you know, the past does indicate what's going to happen in the future. And I'll be the first to tell you, people can change. Things can change. The world can change. But it's amazing how often it's the same. We had a high school intern with us early this year. She spent a whole month here. And one day I was talking to her and I said, what are your friends and you talk about? She said, well, you know, homework, basketball games, jobs, who's dating who, that sort of stuff. Well, that's the same thing we talked about when I was in high school. It's the same thing my parents and grandparents talked about. So, I mean, the world has changed a lot, but the basics are pretty much the same.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is true. That is true. And now when you have an intern like that, do they work with you quite a bit? Like you said that she was with you when you wrote this article. Uh, do you give her a lot of input? Does she kind of follow along with you, everything you're doing?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I let her stay with me the whole day, every day. And, uh, so she was sitting there while I dictated this and I asked her opinion on a You know, and one thing, you know, when we had IT questions or something, I didn't need to call anybody. This 16-year-old kid knew what to do. And that's rather amazing because, you know, everyone in my office, we had to learn how to use computers and things like that. She doesn't remember a time in her life when she didn't do this. So, you know, it's really truly amazing to see, you know, how that is a different skill set than we've had before. But you still use it to keep in touch with friends, and the conversations are a little different digitally, but people are still talking about the same things they've always talked about.
SPEAKER 03 :
You were mentioning basketball. Just as a side note, I know you're really into sports. Did you watch slash listen to the Iowa-South Carolina women's basketball game?
SPEAKER 02 :
I sure did, and Caitlin Clark is amazing, and so are the young ladies from South Carolina. I am so excited that women's sports have elevated themselves to this level, and I'm a huge fan of college softball. I've really gotten into it, and our team here in Oklahoma has been the national champion three years in a row, so it's fun to follow them, and it's amazing how well they play, because The girls have a tendency to be more team players, more dedicated to the college game. The guys are baseball or basketball or football are all looking at how quick can I go pro or can I switch to another team. And the girls are amazing. And as you know, my great friend and mentor, John Wooden, was one of the wisest men I knew and the best, winningest basketball coach of all time. And late in his life, he would sit up late on ESPN and watch women's basketball. And he said it's just a better game. They pass more, they hit their free throws, and they play defense. Guys have a tendency to want to shoot three-point shots and slam dunk and do a lot of things that are kind of interesting, but they won't necessarily win you a championship.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, there was one that Caitlin Clark hit. She was almost on the logo in the middle. She was probably maybe three feet from the logo. Of course, my daughter, who's really into basketball, was quite into that. She's always played pretty much every day, sometimes for hours a day, but she and her dad now are getting up at 5.30 in the morning, not just on weekends, but on school days because that's when they can get the court to do rebound after rebound. She's been practicing at this really expensive private school. She goes to a public school, but This private school has just facilities that would blow your mind, like a really good university, because I think the tuition is $25,000 per kid at this private school. And I'm sure there's additional fees for sports, this, that, and the other, and fundraising. So anyway, what she was blown away by was they had two $25,000 return machines where you'd shoot and it returns the ball to you. And I'm like, we don't need that. You have your dad. You have a free machine.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, the Purdue game was amazing because they have this 7'4 kid, but they interviewed some of the people that played against him. And one guy, a foot shorter, shot over him all day. And he said, how did you get used to shooting over him? And he said, I grew up playing in a playground in my area, and there was a power wire that went right over the court, and I was used to shooting over it. And so it's no different than a guy like that. It's just like a big high line and I shoot over it. That's hilarious. Yeah. So it was fun. But no, this is a great time of year. I love the sports and it's fun.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is fun. You know, her friend, you know, that's interesting you say that. And I've seen videos of, you know, NBA stars who grew up poor. you know, on the dirt in their backyard or whatever with some crummy basket shooting over and over again. But we've got, you know, blacktop on the back, like a big blacktop square, I would say, with a pretty decent basketball hoop, but it's, you know, a portable one. Anyway, my daughter just thinks, oh, she's so, because the neighbor has a basketball court outside. And but we've got a basketball court four blocks from the house. It's brand new that they put into it. It's like a small community that we live in. Maybe, I don't know, 60, 70 houses. And they put in a new basketball court. So anyway, she can go over there. So it's a matter of blocks. Right. And then we have the rec center where my husband takes her, where they have two or three full size courts. So then she says to me, yeah, but my girlfriend, so and so, her dad just built her a court inside their house. And she has one of those basketball return machines inside. And I'm like, girl, there's always going to be people that have more equipment, you know, a court inside their house. It's one of the girls she plays with at high school. I said, but with that said, you go every day with your dad and you have a really great court. There are kids that don't have anything near what you have, you know, at your fingertips. So it's all relative, isn't it?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, I was doing an event once in Indiana. And I was talking to the people about, you know, who was from around here. So, well, you're 40 miles away from where Larry Bird grew up in French Lick, Indiana. And we went there and my driver and I and I said, I want to go there. And so somebody said, well, he lived right out there in the middle of nowhere, a little tiny house. And, you know, this asphalt thing on the driveway, slanted down, gravel, you know, pretty primitive. But, you know, I have reason to believe he must have shot a million shots out there, you know. And I think, you know, I think you can make it. And people there in the coffee shop were telling me, you know, you could go by there. I mean, he would literally shovel the snow off of it and shoot baskets all day. And, you know, I think that has an awful lot more to do with it than that. then whether or not you've got a ball return machine, you know?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right, right, exactly. And if you have a dad that is your ball return machine who also trains you, he trains the girls almost every day they live together, I think that's better than any of that other stuff just because there's so much personal attention and love put into them, you know?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Oh, absolutely, yeah. I think it's great. I mean, to have a dad that wants to go with you at 5.30 in the morning, I would – I would give up a ball return machine for that any day.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, no kidding. In fact, my husband is with our middle daughter right now, the volleyball player, and they went to four universities and over four days they drove to Kansas. And as you can imagine, in Kansas, there's a wide diversity of the type of schools and a couple of them literally are like in a cornfield, right? So a couple of the hotels I got for them, they literally were the only hotels in the entire town. They were called the Country Inn and the variation of the Country Inn. There was also one outside of town called the Celebration Inn. I saw the pictures. I told my husband, no one is celebrating there. No one.
SPEAKER 02 :
I remember going out there when I used to. I spent a summer hauling hay, and we went north with the harvest and went up through Kansas and Nebraska. And the amazing thing was, I remember going into these little towns. They'd finally give us a Saturday afternoon and evening off on Sunday, and we'd go into these little towns. And I remember asking, you know, where do you recommend we eat? And they said, oh, there's a diner down there. And I said, what are our options? You guys should go hungry. You eat at the diner or you go hungry.
SPEAKER 03 :
Those are your options. There were two places in. When he went in the subway, he said he went in twice. It was open, but no one was in there. So I don't know what the story was there. But yeah, they ran into a couple of kids later on when they went to a subway in a different town. And one of the football players and a softball player, the football player said, when my mom pulled up to the school, I said, let's turn around. And then let's leave. And then he said, you know, I love it here. And your schedule is all, they understand that you're going to be traveling for sports. They really work with you with all your classes. And, you know, you don't have to like make excuses for why you won't be there. They know that we're all, you know, athletes at school. And he said, if you're looking for a party school, this isn't it. But most of all the ones she went to, they're small, like Christian NAIA schools. So they're faith based, too. But he's like, he just said, if you're looking for a party school, this isn't it. And so I hope my daughter took a bunch of pictures next to cornfields just so, you know, we'd be assured that, yes, indeed, this was not a party atmosphere.
SPEAKER 02 :
That is great. No, and I think some of those schools are the best opportunity. You get to know everybody and it's it's like a big high school and and it's a big deal. Sports in those little towns are amazing. I mean, everybody comes out, and the town turns into a ghost town because everybody's at the ballgame.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're right, because a couple of little old ladies stopped her and asked why she was in town and said they hoped that she came so they could come watch her play. I thought that was really sweet. After church, they all met at the buffet. Jim, it's so classic. My husband was so shocked by it all. And I'm like, bro, like I've lived all over the country. This is the way America is. This is middle America. This is what you have not in Chicago and you're living in Denver. This is not what you've really been accustomed to. So, all right, Jim, always fun to talk to you and talk about your winner's wisdom column. And I love the idea of betting on the past and that the Snickers bar was big back then. And it's still number one now. Thank you, my friend. Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Hey there, Angie Austin here with the good news. You know, I love to share good news stories when we have time. And this one, I think, is a real doozy. I mean, on so many levels, it's good news and it definitely has an element of faith that really impresses me as well. OK, so April is National Donate Life Month. And this is a story of two old friends who were reunited through grief and kindness, and they ended up creating the perfect plan. Okay, 15 years ago, Angie Lynchard moved across the street from Mary Ann Carroll. Okay, so Angie moved in across the street from Mary Ann, and that's in Columbia, Maryland. Their sons, Jarrett and Phillip, soon became best friends. They were inseparable, spending all their time together biking and fishing and catching frogs, and they have pictures here of them, you know, 15 years ago as little boys, you know, fishing together. They moved then three years later, okay, and the families lost touch with just some social media contact here and there. Jared and Phillip grew up, and Jared joined the Marines, and a year ago, tragedy struck, and 23-year-old Jared suddenly died suddenly. So Marianne came by to visit after Jared passed, okay? So they kind of got together to, you know, she wanted to offer her condolences. And Marianne came by. Jared had passed away. Marianne wanted to offer condolences, and she brought her a prayer shawl, says Angie. And she said, I noticed right away that Marianne looked different. I hadn't seen her for over a decade. I asked her, is everything OK? And you don't look quite right. So here's the mom grieving. And she's noticing that her old friend looks sick. And it was then that Marianne then said, you know, I've had a three year struggle with illness. I've got end stage liver disease. And the only cure right now for me is a transplant. So Marianne went on the national waiting list a couple years back for a suitable organ, and there were 10,200 names at the time on the list. So Marianne leaves, and Angie said she just prayed for a miracle for her friend's life. She had no clue that... She, Angie, would be that miracle. So a couple months after Marianne visited, she saw on Facebook that Marianne was posting a search for a living donor to provide a portion of their liver because no one in her family was a suitable donor. Angie says that her strong faith gave her the courage and motivation to honor her late son by getting tested as a possible living donor for Marianne. When she told her old friend about this life-saving offer, Marianne was like, you know... I don't want to burden you like you just lost your son. You're dealing with a family tragedy. I don't know if this is a really good time for you to donate part of your liver to me. Angie says what convinced her to donate was something that her husband told her. Her husband, Steve, recalled that during a missionary trip to Costa Rica, not long after her son, Jared, had passed away, a minister told him out of Jared's death, new life will be born. And Angie said, Steve and I were just astonished because Angie's donation would be the literal fulfillment of those words from the pastor saying, out of Jared's death, new life will be born. I mean, that's pretty amazing. So Mary Ann said, okay, it's almost as if Jared was telling her, his mom, to save my life. So Angie was a match and Marianne got a second chance for life. That was December of 24. So not long ago, they actually went through with the surgery. And Jared had been apparently deeply inspired by a sermon that he'd heard in church exactly one year before the transplant surgery. And the title of the sermon that their son who'd passed away was so touched by the title of the sermon was the perfect plan. And she said, when I recalled the title, I knew this transplant was destined by God to be that perfect plan that Jared was basically telling her from heaven. Good job, mom. Good job. You're saving a life. The transplant was successful. They did it at Johns Hopkins. They removed a small portion of Angie's liver and they put it in Marianne to replace her failed liver. And apparently they could use like this robotic surgery system now. So it's a lot easier on Angie on the donor. It's not as invasive. You have a really small scar. And because of the way that this works, not only do you have a small scar, but you also have... Less danger and a shorter healing time, etc. So less pain, faster recovery and better post-operative outcomes. And best of all, she said she was expecting Angie thought she'd have this big scar, but she just had a few tiny ones. And three months after receiving Angie's liver donation, Mary Ann is doing really well. She is a very, you know, religious person. She feels that it was divine intervention that God brought them together and eventually, you know, leading to a healthy, renewed life for her because of Angie's gracious act. And it says here, so many things had to happen to make this a reality. Our sons being friends, taking Angie to prayer shawl after Jared passed and then Angie saw me sick. And then finding out Angie was a suitable donor, she said that she felt like God and Jared had a hand in it all. And she says she has a photo magnet on her refrigerator of Angie and Jared. And she said, it's my angel on earth and my angel in heaven. And Angie says that by donating part of her liver, she also saved someone else because someone else moved up on the donor list to get another – She gave two people really life by doing that. So I just thought it was a beautiful story to share with you, a little good news story. And I've got other news for you as well. I think my guest is ready here. Well, if you're just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. A new report reveals that cybercrime continues to grow at an alarming rate. creating serious threats for businesses and consumers. So as we change gears now, joining us today is cybersecurity expert Ala Resnick, who is here to share the latest info from Verizon's annual data breach investigation report. Ala Resnick is the Senior Director of Advanced Product Sales at Verizon Business with more than 20 years' experience providing solutions to prevent cyber threats. Welcome to you, Ala Resnick.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you very much, Angie. It's such a pleasure to be here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let's just talk about the highlights of the report. Let's start there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, well we issued a data breach investigation report on an annual basis for dozens of years now and I look forward to that read every year. I'll break it down for you on a few key takeaways. So what we're seeing in the cyber security space is that the crime is definitely on the rise and the criminals are becoming more sophisticated with both the experience but also with the advent of generative AI, because they are using the generative AI to make the phishing attacks on us more and more realistic, right? So we, as humans, are more likely to fall victims of those. Another key takeaway is that ransomware, which is a serious cybersecurity crime, is on the rise, 37% increase in that, And SMBs are super vulnerable. SMBs continue to be the most vulnerable group in cybersecurity space, mostly because they don't really have the resources, the specialties, the technologies in place to protect their business. So those are probably the key takeaways, and we can dive deeper into those. if you're for the interest of the listeners here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, in terms of small businesses, how can they be better prepared?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, it's not an easy task if you're running your business and you are, of course, focused on growing it and you're excited about what you're doing. But the reality is once you have the security, it becomes part of your operations. It's like You know, banking or payroll is part of your operations, trying to do this. Security should be one of those disciplines that you think about on a regular basis. And to start with, simple things, like keeping your passwords up to date, changing them often, and keeping them strong, using multi-factor authentication, keeping up with software updates. You know, it sounds strange. Why would software updates have anything to do with cybersecurity? But it's super important because software has vulnerabilities in it. And every time the new feature becomes available, there could be a crack in that software that allows cybercriminals to get in and access our systems, right? Our databases, our customer information. So software companies work daily to... prevent or kind of cover those cracks in the software so that doesn't happen. So don't delay software updates. Small businesses can also deploy, not that expensively, very, very good software on their routers, on their computers, on their mobile devices that will help to kind of build a shield around their systems to bounce back cyber attack attempts. And then finally, education of your people. It sounds sort of like educating about cybersecurity, but just recognizing a spam and thinking about what to do if you actually click on the phishing email, who to contact, what are the next steps is important. It gives comfort to our employees and that awareness is super important.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, in terms of the most common threats, what are you seeing as the most common threats?
SPEAKER 04 :
So the most common threat is phishing, essentially. Sending something that sounds so real. Like, click on this link, or your boss asked you to transfer $10,000 to another bank. Or just click on this link to enter your information because your delivery of your goods is delayed, right? And then the employee clicks on that link. But what happens? They open the door to software, like a piece of software code that now enters the system and then kind of gets there and grabs. It's like a hook. and gets hold of customer databases and so forth, ready to strike and say, oh, I have your customer data. If you don't pay this amount of ransomware, then we will expose that data or shut down and disable your system. So that's probably the biggest threat for small businesses.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, when you talk about that, you know, you think about these hospitals that have been, you know, the ransomware, you know, they've got all this information on patients and, you know, how serious it can be. So how serious is cybercrime in general?
SPEAKER 04 :
Super serious. It's interesting that you brought the hospitals because, of course, not only they have customer data, the financial data, they have health care data. So that makes hospitals very vulnerable. But for small businesses in general, according to one of our partners, National Cyber Security Alliance, 60% of them, like more than half, would go out of business six months following a successful cyber security attack.
SPEAKER 01 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
That is super serious. And you know, the average ransomware is $116,000. And there are a lot of small businesses that don't have that kind of money lying around, right? That certainly would get them out of business in many cases, so it is very serious and have to be taken seriously.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. All right, so I know we're almost out of time. One more question. How can businesses or even us, the consumer, protect our information?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, let's finish on a positive note. There are things we can do to protect ourselves, right? Keeping our passwords strong, using multi-factor authentication. No delaying software updates and securing our endpoints, which is computer routers and mobile devices with simple software. And finally, being aware. Be vigilant when we see something that sounds like a little bit off. Don't click. Those are the three steps I would think about when it comes to starting on your cybersecurity journey.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, don't click. And just like yesterday when I got something from, I don't know, the energy company or something, rather than click on that link, I just Googled my local energy company and put in pay bill and went to their site on my own rather than click the link that was sent to me, which actually ended up being legitimate. But you never know. Where can we go for more info, Allah?
SPEAKER 04 :
That is so smart. Definitely is a way better way to do it. To start with, I would recommend Verizon Cybersecurity Awareness page. You can just Google it. The report we discussed is going to be there with additional tips and thoughts on how to go about cybersecurity.
SPEAKER 03 :
Perfect. Thank you so much for the great info. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 01 :
You too. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
