Join Al Smith on this insightful episode as he navigates the complexities of the current market landscape. With volatility on the rise, Al discusses the impact of tariffs and interest rates on investments and shares how staying invested is crucial for growth. You'll learn about the benefits of dollar-cost averaging and why long-term strategies can safeguard your financial future.
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Welcome to Retirement Unpacked with Al Smith, owner of Golden Eagle Financial. You want a retirement plan that alleviates your fears about the future so you know your money will last. As a chartered financial consultant, Al Smith will help you find a balance between the risk and reward of the market and the safety of your retirement income. And now, here's your host, Al Smith.
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Welcome to another program of Retirement Unpacked. I want to thank you for tuning in. I'm sure there's other things you could be doing. And I'm going to talk a little bit today about what's going on in the market. We're not quite halfway through the year. but we're very close to being halfway through the year, and we have certainly seen some volatility. A little bit earlier on, there was a lot of talk about tariffs and some of the things that were going on with tariffs, and I think what's more important is we look at the big picture, so to speak. And the most recent report I've received from Brookstown with where I place my investment business is the S&P index has had a 6.3% growth in the last month. And that's the largest one since November of 2023. And if we break that down a little bit, both The Russell and the Nasdaq grew at nearly 9%. Some of the top performing types of stocks in the market were technology stocks, industrials, consumer discretionary, and so forth. The only ones that didn't seem to do well very recently were healthcare stocks. And in toward between February and April, there was a little bit of fear about tariffs and and things of that nature. But I think we all know those of us who are listening is that the market is volatile and The way to make money in the market is to stay in there. Some people who try to time the market, that's very difficult to do. Every now and then I've had a client ask me, say, well, you're going to tell me when the market's going to go up, right? And I have to explain, well, I don't have a plan. crystal ball. The one thing that is certain about the market is there is uncertainty there. So I think remaining in the market regardless of volatility is the way to have your nest egg grow and also continue if you're If you're in your working lives and you have a longer window to retirement, continuing to make contributions into your IRA, your 401k, your personal investment account over time. And when you do that, you benefit from what's called dollar cost averaging, which basically means you're making your purchases when the market is up, when it's down, and when it's kind of fluctuating in between. and all the financial gurus have agreed that that is perhaps the best strategy over the long term to make money in the market. Now, some of the things that have been a little bit of a concern, for example, The market, as I mentioned, between February and April, it took a nosedive, but right now it's back to within 4% of its all-time high, which occurred, I believe, about February 19th. And one of the things that... might be holding back future market growth is the Federal Reserve has paused any interest rate cuts. And basically, the economic data that we're looking at right now have suggested that the tariffs only had a limited impact on the market. There seemed to be a big concern at one point, but tariffs they going all the way back to like the 1700s they were the primary source of revenue for the federal government we did not have income tax until 1913 prior to that tariffs were the primary source of revenue for our government and more recently certain other countries have have been taking advantage of the United States, and we had an enormous tariff imbalance, which is something that the current administration is trying to correct. And right now, there's a 90-day tariff pause, which will take us into, I believe, July. And with China, that tariff pause is going all the way into mid-August. And I think that's important because it's going to keep the markets a little bit steadier, so to speak. But the reason for some of this talk and everything about tariffs is that we have been – treated unfairly by many other countries. I'll give you an example. If you wanted to buy a Harley Davidson in the past, and you're maybe a successful person who lives in India, instead of paying around $20,000 for a new Harley Davidson, and don't hold me to that, I haven't been shopping for one lately, uh might be 25 000 but you might pay 50 or 60 thousand dollars for a new harley david motorcycle harley-davidson motorcycle in india so certain countries had very very unfair tariffs and these are some things that we're trying to alleviate and i think once there is a balance in tariffs i think that will help the market going forward some other things i believe That will help the market going forward is if the Fed will lower interest rates slightly. The real estate market, I am not a realtor or a real estate investor, but I do pay attention to the markets. And I've been told that right now it's more of a buyer's market. It's not quite as easy to sell homes right now, whether it's your own home or you're a realtor. because of interest rates where they are. And I think that has also affected a little bit of the appreciation of real estate. I don't think it's gone down, but I think it's leveled off a little bit because of the interest rate increases we've had. I've met some clients who have continued to keep their mortgage because they got their mortgage back a few years ago when interest rates were like between 2% and 3%. And this is often a topic of conversation. I know some financial experts, so to speak, say you should always pay off your mortgage in retirement. But I, on the other hand, recommend that if you have a nest egg large enough to pay off your mortgage, but your nest egg has been earning 10 or 12 percent in the market, and your mortgage is 2.38%, your mortgage interest rate, I would continue to make my mortgage payment and stay ahead about 7% or 8% on the growth of my nest egg. But that's just me. Now, some other things to consider is the market price. operates not on what's going on right now, but the market is basically forward-looking. And so that's why sometimes when there's negative information that we might hear about on the news or something like that, and yet the market grows, that's kind of something that, gee, I'm going to scratch your head. Why is that? Well, that's because the market is forward-conditioned and the prices, the nationalities, The Dow, the S&P, often the changes in those are not the result of current conditions, but they're based on future expectations. And that is also true when, for example, when there's a sharp decline in the market, there's often a really quick rebound. And that's because of more changes. long-term perspective in the market. And again, I'm going to talk about this until I'm pushing up daisies, and that is to make money in the market, you need to stay in the market. If you're farther from retirement, continue to put money in on a regular basis. If you have extra money that's not in the market and the market takes a big nosedive, I would highly recommend that that's a good time to put additional money in the market. I know some people, when the market takes a big nosedive, they get kind of panicky and pull money out and put it in banking and so forth but if you do that after a market decline then basically you have owned that loss whereas if you remain in the market it's going to come back and that may be quickly it may take a little longer but that is essentially the way people make money in the market is by hanging in there and by putting their money in over a long period of time which as i mentioned earlier we call dollar cost averaging and as far as what individual investments are best that's a conversation that i always have when i work with my clients before we make any kind of selections because that involves risk tolerance and risk tolerance has not only to do with your comfort level if the market goes down now nobody's comfortable when the market goes down But we talk about things like that because that helps us decide where are your investment dollars best placed. And after we talk about comfort level and risk tolerance and so forth, then we have a real good idea where is the best place for you to have your financial resources. Also, part of that is not just your comfort level, but when do you plan – to use these resources. If you have a really long window before you're going to be needing these resources, that is a little different financial perspective than if you think you only have 10 or 15 years remaining in your life expectancy because you're in your 70s or 80s or something. So these are all the things that we take into consideration before we make any specific selections of, well, which investments are best for me? What should I do? And when I work with couples, we often end up having different risk tolerance scores, so to speak. We use a numeric risk tolerance schedule for that. And it's often different for both the husband and the wife. And if they each have a separate retirement account, we can allocate them that way if that's what they desire. But we always have long deadlines. healthy conversations before we decide what's the best course of action when people sit down and work with me. And if you have questions about your own retirement or about where is the best place for my financial resources or what's the best strategy for me to grow my wealth, Contact my office and we can have a conversation about that. My number is 303-744-1128. And we're going to talk after the break about a hobby that many people find very, very enjoyable. I met a young man who will be talking to us about saltwater aquariums.
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Most retirement planners start with numbers, but Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial starts with your story. At Golden Eagle, your first meeting's not a sales pitch. It's a simple conversation about where you've been, what matters to you, and where you want to go when you retire. Al listens intently, and then, using simple tools and the info you already have, he can show you how long your current plan might last if you were to retire today and not change anything. That alone can be eye-opening and expose any holes in your current strategy. It's the foundation Al uses to help you build a plan that works for the long run to retire on your terms. No pressure, no jargon, just a clear picture of where you stand and how to make it better. Al's been helping people retire well for decades, and he's seen it all, the good, the bad, and the overly complicated. He'll help you keep it simple. If you're ready to plan your retirement with purpose, schedule a no-pressure visit with Al Smith. Go to the klzradio.com advertisers page to schedule your conversation. Investment advisory services offered through Brookstone Capital Management, LLC, Registered Investment Advisor, BCM, and Golden Eagle Financial Limited are independent of each other. Insurance products and services are not offered through BCM, but are offered and sold through individually licensed and appointed agents.
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Well, you know, as a listener, you've heard me talk about finding your purpose in retirement and how it's important not only to have a large enough nest egg, but to find activities and things that you're going to do. It could be volunteering. It could be doing things with your church and things like that. But there are some tremendous hobbies that people may not be aware of that can bring people enormous joy and fulfillment in retirement. And although My guest is a long way from retirement. He owns a business, a successful business that serves people who have saltwater aquariums, and his name is Ryan Collin. Ryan, are some of your clients who have these beautiful saltwater aquariums, are some of those folks retired?
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Yeah, I would say a couple of them are retired. It's a great hobby to keep you active, and
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going you know it's always something with these tanks so you'll never get bored and i was fortunate enough to stop by your place of business there it's right at that intersection of um platte canyon well on the other side of bowls it's a lowell and bowls and i saw some modest size saltwater aquariums and some big ones and i probably could have spent hours in there because the the tanks and the fish and the creatures in there are really really enjoyable watching and if someone were to want to get started in a hobby of saltwater aquarium what would you what would you suggest before they dive into it for them to consider i recommend um
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doing some online research and maybe even looking at some YouTube videos about what fish they may want and, um, what corals they may want. And that'll determine the size of the tank they should get. And, uh, generally we, we recommend getting the biggest tank that you can fit in your house. Uh, or in the space you want to fill because a lot of the fish that people enjoy, they require a certain tank size. So if you go smaller, you'll be limited on what you can keep in the tank.
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Yeah, I can only imagine if you had a 34-inch fish in a three-foot tank, that wouldn't work very well. What size are some of the fish that would require a larger tank, but they're also really interesting fish? What fish would those be?
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So you have your classic from Nemo and Dory. So Dory is a very large fish and would require a larger tank. Nemo, on the other hand, you could fit in the smaller tank full term. There's also the family of fish that Dory is, they're called tangs. And tangs all require at least a four-foot tank, which is generally going to be around 100 gallons. to successfully keep those long-term.
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Is that the fish that was in the Disney film?
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Yes, yes, the blue one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, the Finding Nemo?
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Yeah.
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Oh, well, that's something that people can certainly relate to, I would think. So a four-foot tank holds about 100 gallons, you were saying?
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Correct, yeah. A four-foot generally is about 90 to 100 gallons.
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wow i when i stopped by your place of business there yesterday i think one of the creatures i thought was one of the most interesting and i don't think you'd need a large tank for him but it looked almost like a fish that was walking on the floor of the tank and when it moved around it also had had these little fins it looked like i was watching a national geographic video of some excursion and into
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um australia's great barrier reef or something it was what is that what is that little creature that's on the floor what is he called that guy is a scooter blenny and he's in the dragonette family so there's other dragonettes uh that are just as pretty if not prettier um called mandarins and they have a like a psychedelic red and blue pattern on them the um they kind of look like mud skippers though the one that you saw that if People are into freshwater. But, yeah, they're great fish, and they're utilitarian fish as well. They'll eat coral pests and other little bugs in the tank that you don't necessarily need or want in the tank.
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Well, that makes it ecologically tremendous. These are a lot of things that I never even thought about. I always thought, well, you buy a bunch of fish, and if you're lucky, most of them stay alive, and you feed them out of a little box of stuff that you get from the pet store. But I guess that's more like tropical fish rather than freshwater.
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Yeah, yeah. The saltwater world, it's amazing because there's so many little – creatures that come along when when you buy live rock or when you buy a coral that they'll come out the hitchhiker and then they'll reproduce in your tank and you'll look you'll be looking at your tank and not remember adding these things but you're like where do these things come from like out of thin air it seems like but um some of them are beneficial and some of them aren't so beneficial so it's good to have utilitarian fish that are going to take care of those kind of things for you and um pretty much close the ecosystem um keep it a a fully functioning ecosystem.
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And I know you and your significant other are transplants from Miami. So I'm assuming, did you have this love for the ocean and fish long before you came to Colorado?
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Yeah, yeah. My mom has always had fish tanks at the house and she really got me into the hobby. We would go down to the beach and collect critters and try to keep them alive. 20 years ago, but now we have such a better understanding in the hobby and me myself has a better understanding of how to keep these critters alive. I never thought it would be a career, but it dragged me back and I'm glad it did.
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You could probably teach a college-level class in marine biology, although I don't know that there's much of a demand for that when you're 1,000 miles from the ocean. But I know your knowledge of sea creatures is tremendous. Now, let's say if somebody were to get started and things aren't going right— You, correct me if I'm wrong, you spend a lot of times on service calls to people's tanks to get things in balance. Is that accurate?
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That is, that is. Yeah, so Monday through Thursday, the store is closed because... We're out doing service accounts and taking care of any problems people might be having with their tanks. And if you just want to enjoy the tank and not have to touch it at all, we're here for that too. We can come weekly and maintain your tank full time. That way you can just enjoy the beauty of it and not have to deal with some of the maintenance or some of the stinkier things that come along with the fish tank.
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Or if you have an 85-inch flat-screen TV, you can probably, I know you can plug in what looks like a fire. I guess you could plug in what looks like a fish tank also, but I don't think that would be quite the same. But I've seen those. Do any other pets end up, if people have dogs or cats, do they end up spending any time looking at the fish tanks?
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Yeah, especially the cats. The cats generally enjoy looking at the fish tank. Ideally, you have a lid on the tank so they can't get in there, but I've definitely seen some cats fall into the tank out of curiosity, which isn't a big deal for either the cat or the fish, as long as the cat's not peeing in the tank or anything like that. And dogs, it depends on the dog. They sometimes will spend time in front of it, but most dogs are more interested in what the people are doing.
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Yeah, or other dogs or something like that. I know I had some dogs that saw a nature show of wolves fighting with each other, and the dogs went absolutely berserk barking at the television at that event and so forth. Now, when someone... gets a tank, what choices do they have to make as far as what's going to go in the tank? I know when I stopped by your place of business there, I found the coral incredibly interesting. They looked like little fingers that were moving around as the water in the tank circulated.
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So for coral, coral is pretty easy when it comes to deciding what you want. It's really about what you like. There's not many limitations on coral. As long as you're keeping your water chemistry where it should be, all your coral should thrive. Fish is another thing, because certain fish don't get along with other fish. And like I was saying, size requirements on some fish will inhibit you. But we're here to guide you through all those choices. If we know what's in your tank already, we'll steer you away from bad decisions.
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Well, and it's kind of like anything else. What do they say about maintaining your car? You know, you spend a little now so you don't spend more later. And I think for folks who have a saltwater tank that aren't familiar with the nuances of various kinds of fish, I think what you do can help keep their fish alive longer so they're not having to buy new fish all the time because their tank has not been maintained. Is that accurate?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and some of these fish live 10, 15, 20 years. So, yeah, you don't want to cut their lives short because of neglect or something like that. It just wouldn't be fair to the animal.
SPEAKER 03 :
And this is totally unrelated to saltwater fish, but I heard in Italy they had a rule that goldfish bowls had to be square because the round bowls provided a distorted view from the goldfish's perspective.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I could see that.
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I just thought that was, you know, tremendously humorous. Now, which fish are those that reproduce? Because I think what's neat about this particular hobby, having saltwater fish, is that some of them reproduce. It's sort of like if you bought a couple of dogs and you don't want to become, it's very difficult to become a breeder, but with fish, If you get the right ones, are they going to reproduce pretty regularly?
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So they may lay eggs, but the chances of you keeping the eggs alive and the fry alive is very slim. I would say it's almost a whole new hobby when you get into breeding fish. It requires you to start to breed fish. Now you need to breed eggs. what they eat so which is generally like tiny little rotifers or microscopic food um and um so when you go down that road it gets a lot more complicated and i would say that's more for the advanced hobbyist um i wouldn't recommend it for a new person but um even in a new person's tank the There are, like, clownfish will lay eggs. Banggai cardinals can have eggs in the aquarium. But generally, they end up as fish food for other fish or get stuck in the filter.
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Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking, is fish will lay eggs. Since there's other fish in there, that becomes, you know, rather than have it becoming more fish, it becomes fish food given the size of their environment and so forth. Now, do a lot of the fish behave very differently? Because I know when I was looking at them, I saw the one that was zipping along the floor of the tank, but some of the other more colorful ones, do they behave similarly or do some of the fish behave very differently than some of the others?
SPEAKER 04 :
no they they all have their own personalities and uh generally stick to certain areas of the tank and um and that's why i was saying some fish don't get along with others so you don't want to load up a bunch of fish that scoot along the bottom because they're going to end up fighting but if you have one or two down there it's fine and same with middle of the water column top of the water column there's going to be fish that generally stay in those areas and you don't want to overload those areas too much or otherwise they're going to be fighting for territory
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, are there plants that you have in the tanks also, or not?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, no plants, but, I mean, a lot of people call corals plants. The corals are basically underwater plants, but they're more closely related to, they are actually, in fact, animals. They're not plants.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's what I heard. They appear like plants, but they're not.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly, yeah. They're actually living animals, and they're, in theory... basically a machine that will live forever as long as the environment around them stays stable. But in theory, they don't have a lifespan. There's people with 20-year-old coral, 40-year-old corals, and you can propagate them as well. So you can take that 40-year-old coral, take a little piece of it and grow it in another tank and continue the legacy of that coral.
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Well, Ryan, what you've told us about the tremendous hobby of having a saltwater aquarium, I think that's been really interesting. Now, if somebody would want to get started in that hobby, how would they reach you? I know your store is at the intersection there of... Bowles and Lowell, which the other side of it's Platte Canyon. And if they wanted to reach you, what's your phone number if they wanted to reach out to you, Ryan?
SPEAKER 04 :
They can reach me at 305-903-1122. And you could also find us on Facebook or Instagram, all the social medias at FinsUpReece.
SPEAKER 03 :
FinsUp, what was the last word? fins up reef fins up reef well that is awesome well i find your hobby incredibly interesting and i hope our listeners did thank you for uh sharing some time with us god bless you hope you have a great day and keep all your clients fish alive
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Al. It means a lot. And I appreciate you having me on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very good. Bye now. And for my listeners, thank you for listening. God bless you. Hopefully you'll be here next week. And let's continue to pray for peace in the Middle East. Bye now.
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I think that everybody who voted for this election This foreigner to be that, yeah, and I'm going to say it because he's a foreigner. I don't think that you should, I don't think that you, I think you need to be born in the United States to hold elected office. And if people get mad about it, I don't care. I have major issues with this guy. He literally just got citizenship seven years ago. He's a nepo baby, and he's now going to be taken over the mayoral office. Can you believe Eric Adams is considered the great hope against him? He beat out Andrew Cuomo in their little ranked voting primary thingy-ding last night. I know. You knew it was going to end that way. You knew it was going to. I think for that high up, I think, yes, you need to demonstrate you have to have citizenship. I think you have to be an American citizen, like a full on United States born in America citizen. We are at this point right now. Oh, but Dana, that's so mean. That's so weird because every other country does it. And I don't hear those people wringing their hands at every other country, but it's just a great way to kill the United States. I'm so tired of it. So tired of it. So that's some of the latest. So all the people in New York that voted for him, I think they should be barred from leaving New York. I think they should be forcibly kept in New York. Everybody who voted for the socialist D-bag should be forced to stay in New York. I don't want them to come into Texas. I don't want to see them go into Florida. I mean, I don't know if you've seen some of the betting odds with this stuff. But they're talking about how the yes, it's going to become a complete communist insanity, like ridiculousness up there. That's that's where they're going for. That's what's going to happen. So he beat he's like ahead of in a lot of the polling. This Zoran Mamdani, he's ahead of even Eric Adams. Curtis Sewell runs every election and never wins. God love him. He runs all the time. I don't even know why. This is not like anything else. New York is done. New York is gone. New York is going to be London. New York is going to be Paris. It's dead. New York is a dead city. It is a city that is nothing more than a tombstone to former America greatness. That's it. All of the slogans are merely epitaphs etched on the stone. That's all it is. It is nothing else. Literally nothing else. It is a dead city. It is done. Get out while you can. But I don't want you in Texas. And I don't want to see you go to Florida. Go somewhere else. This is the way it is. I mean, can you imagine voting for that? So this is all the latest. We're going to talk about the decline, the end of New York. New York City's dead. And how weird is it that how many years, 20-something years after 9-11 came, you have a jihadist socialist, a socialist jihadi that's now the mayor of New York? Oh, that's absolutely accurate. It is so damn accurate to say that. He absolutely is. Then we've got this story because we were talking about this assessment of the nuclear sites. Who in the world in this administration is leaking? Who the hell in this administration is leaking the stuff? I think that's a fair question to ask. It says you early U.S. Intel assessments suggest strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites. I don't know if you saw some of that last night. You saw that headline came. I don't believe that, by the way. You know why I don't believe it? Because Mossad had eyes on this place for like two years. You're telling me that they had eyes. They were able to smuggle in explosive drones and an explosive drone base. They were able to do all of this stuff. You're telling me they were able to do all of this stuff. And yet they didn't have eyes on the facility that they were staking out and they were watching and they couldn't see whether or not anybody was moving stuff in or out of it. So not only is someone leaking this stuff, but there are morons on top of it. I feel like they should be dragged behind a truck on a gravel road. These people that are leaking like this, that's just asinine. It's just this doesn't help anything. It doesn't help anything. So this piece from it's a couple of places. It's not just political. It's not just Axios. It's also CNN. POTUS was saying, oh, well, this is, you know, a low confidence report. It's it's preliminary. I don't even think it's a low confidence report. This is the one where I'm like, yeah, I don't believe the leaks, guys. I don't believe it. And the reason I don't believe it is because you cannot have Mossad doing what Mossad does and then also simultaneously, oh, the place that we have eyes on that we were bombing, golly, I guess they just got out when we blinked. No one believes that. I don't believe it. Do you believe it? I don't believe it. I think this is designed purposefully to hurt anything that they're doing over there. First and foremost, it's designed to hurt. And they said that the enriched uranium not being destroyed. Oh, the centrifuges are largely. I don't believe any of this. I mean, I don't even know what to believe anymore because everything is such a poonado. And, you know, you have grifters on the right, grifters on the left. The people on the right are just as bad as legacy press. You can't trust a single damn thing that they put out. Oh, I'm going to go and pose with a binder about Epstein's list and a bunch of grifty, thirsty ass influencers pose up. Look at us with our binders. Notice not a single one of them had a breaking story about it because there was nothing in it. But they lied just like the legacy press lies. They're all liars, the same as all the legacy press. You can't trust anybody. No one wants to ask questions. People have forgotten largely that their role is being antagonistic towards their government, not being a simp to it. They've largely forgotten their role in demanding answers from our government and demanding answers as to why we're getting these conflicting reports coming out from these agencies. Press secretary said in a statement late last night that the assessment was flat out wrong. And she added that it was classified as top secret, but it still got leaked anyway by an anonymous low-level loser in the intel community. That was her direct quote. That means clearly someone was trying to hurt POTUS with it. And with something like this, because it's a NATSEC issue, because it's a NATSEC issue, I think that person needs to be found and hung up off the tallest building. That's me. I'm so tired of this stuff. Who isn't? I mean, there are people that are within these agencies that are desperately trying to get the administration to turn on itself and fight tooth and nail. So we're going to talk more about these leaks coming up because it's coming from somewhere. And it has a specific purpose. You know, the only people that that helps is the mullahs. The only people that that kind of stuff helps is the mullahs. That's it. So where are these priorities in these agencies? That angers me almost more than anything else to see these reports coming out like this. Just asinine. And then lighthearted. Because we came in with all fire and brimstone. You guys want to hear something funny? All right. So you heard about the Diet Coke button, right? In the Oval Office. So apparently the vice president was sitting in the Oval Office across the desk from the president. They were talking about, you know, they were talking about some different policies, different, you know, foreign countries, etc. Apparently POTUS The vice president just witnessed POTUS in a tense diplomatic call in the Oval Office. And POTUS was arguing with this unnamed foreign leader. And then he put the foreign leader on mute, per the VP. Looked over at VP Vance and said, this is not going very well. And then he pressed the red button. And Vance said his eyes got really big and he goes, Mr. President, what just happened? Trump looked at Vance and said, nuclear. And then somebody came in with a Diet Coke. And that's when Vance realized Trump looked at Vance and said it wasn't nuclear. It was just a Diet Coke button. So for like a moment, Vance lost like five years off his life just from that. That's actually hysterical. That is one of the funniest things I've heard in quite some time. So even when he's like arguing with people, he still has, you know, he's got some good humor. I appreciate that. Although, I don't know. Considering my mood like today and dealing with these, if I had to deal with Emmanuel Macron on a regular basis, I think I would press the button. And it would not be an accident that it was not the Diet Coke button. Just got to say. Why not? Telling you. By the way, here's an infuriating story. Lorraine brought this to my attention last night. How fun for us. Do you know that we're still paying most of USAID? What? Yeah. Yeah. We're still paying most of USAID. Oh, of course we are. You guys knew this, right? Everybody knew it? We're still paying most of it. Yeah. There was a story, and it's the New York Times that every now and then gets it right. because they do have a couple of people over there that actually can write, and they're interested in certain things, you know, the truth being one of them. The headline, I'm going to make sure that you guys get it without the paywall, because I don't like, I hate when people put stories about our national security that involve our tax dollars behind paywalls and try to grift off of it. But it was how much of the AID money still remains. What remains after that USAID money? A lot, in fact. An actual lot remains from it. And we're still paying for it. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, first up, a Norwegian tourist is barred from entering the United States. This is a fake story because they said that they found a meme showing that J.D. Vance had a bald head on his phone. He's an admitted drug user. That's why he was disallowed. Next headline, big balls no longer works for the U.S. government. Well, it's true. That guy lied. He was a drug user. That's why. It had nothing to do with his stupid meme. Yeah. Big Balls no longer works for the U.S. government. The technologist Edward Corzatine, who is a key operative in the so-called Doge, he has resigned. I mean, I would, too, because the nation was just... People were ignorant to him. He got a full-time employment status at the GSA last month, according to Wired, and they had his Google Workspace account. That is no longer active, according to a source with knowledge. Doesn't his name isn't anywhere. I could sit here and run down with all the lists, the places where his name doesn't appear and it doesn't appear in any of those places because he resigned, which means that he does no longer appears on White House contracts. He no longer appears on the list of current Doge employees. He no longer appears on federal payroll. He no longer appears on Google workspace. He no longer appears in the list of GSA. You know why? Because he resigned. So that's why he no longer appears on all these places. Let's see. Four out of ten Americans are thinking twice about traveling, particularly overseas, due to safety fears. Thanks, unfettered, to complete total illegal immigration. No one's safe anymore. I wouldn't go to Paris if you paid me. I have no desire to go to a city that looks beautiful but probably smells like wretch and urine, and you're probably going to be attacked by somebody who came in on a boat. It's true. People can get mad about it all they want to, and then they can go KISS, my backside. at kissmybackside.com. It's a great new mail service and those people are welcome to go and check it out and send me correspondence there. Condo owners have woken up to the grim reality that their homes are worthless after a law change. In Florida, they're having kind of a bottom out also because why would you want to live in a condo in a hurricane area? Must be DeSantis' fault that he created the state of Florida and put it right there in the path of hurricanes. Blame him for the hurricanes, too. Why not? Sunshine State retirees, they flock there for affordable condos. They now find themselves stuck with these properties that are worth basically nothing. and they are desperate to escape. And HOA fees, mandatory repairs, it's like bringing them up to a stricter code, are all running people out of that market. We've got a lot more on the way, including China has a new mosquito-sized drone, and Ma'am Danny wins the primary in New York. The folks that help bring you the program, It's the folks over at Burn a Gun. I am always going to tell you to carry a gun and throw lead in defense of your life and in defense of your loved ones. I think there are certain situations, though, where you have to be creative in your response, because I would love to say that I only go where guns are allowed. But you know what? I got to be a big girl and put my big girl britches on sometimes because I got to go and earn a living for my family. Right. You do, too. And you have to deal with municipal restrictions, private property restrictions. and college students who aren't old enough to carry a handgun, but yet still have to live on their own and be at the mercy of whatever idiotic restrictions are in their municipality, et cetera. They don't want to be made sitting ducks. This is where I think the burner gun can come in as a way to diversify your weapons away array and still give you the ability to protect yourself. It's like it shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. Now there's two versions. They have rifles in that, but for the purpose of self-defense in these restricted areas, I would suggest that you look at the Berna CL or the SD. The SD is their most popular model. The CL, which is new, is the SD but smaller. It is 38 percent smaller than the SD. Everything made right here in the U.S. of A. And instead of like, you know, one or two rounds with stun guns, et cetera, then you actually have five with the Berna gun. And it's easy to conceal. There's no recoil. Easy target acquisition. But here's the other thing. Legal in all 50 states. No background checks. No permits. They ship it. No waiting period. They ship it right to your door. And it does not care about gun-free zones. That's the key. So visit Burna.com slash Dana and get your hands on the new Burna CL. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana. Burna is ready when you are.
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But tonight was not our night. Tonight was Assemblyman Mondani's night and he put together a great campaign and he touched young people and inspired them and moved them and got them to come out and vote. And he really ran a highly impactful campaign. I called him, I congratulated him, I applaud him sincerely for his effort, and let's give him a round of applause.
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I mean, I wouldn't applaud him, but okay. That's Cuomo, whose comeback was just ruined. He's done politically. You cannot tell me that Andrew Cuomo isn't done. Of all the races this guy should have won, it should have been this one. He's finished. I mean, don't you think so, Kane? I don't know why the hell he thought he could come back from killing all the mole people.
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Is he qualified to run as an independent by any chance?
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They're never independents don't win in New York. They've never an independent has never won. They never win in New York. It never happens. So he's finished. I don't know what else he can do. And clearly the Democrat Party is not. Well, it's not the Democrat Party that it used to be, that's for sure. It's it's I mean, they're full on Marxist now. I don't think anybody would debate that. They're full-on Marxists. And that's just all there is to it. That's the way the party is now. The party has changed. In New York, of all places. Right? And I just don't know how else. What are they going to do? I mean, have you seen some of the stuff that this dude wants to implement? I mean, you can say, well, it's New York. It doesn't affect us. You're actually incorrect. And also, it's just the symbolism of it all, right? The imagery, the symbolism of it all that I think is incredibly impactful. So welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. So he wins this primary and this ma'am damby. What does this mean for Democrats across the country? I... I think that it's indicative of this major pull to the left, this repositioning of the party. I don't know if you guys have looked at their – have you guys actually looked at their platform lately, Democrats' platform? So they – hey, guys, it's indistinguishable from Marxism. I mean at first – let me put it like this. Like previously, the Democrat Party would have – I don't know, like, you know, they would they would they'd be squishy on life. You know, you used to have some pro-life Democrats and you would have some pro-gun Second Amendment, you know, Democrats like back in the day. And a lot of it was I mean, the great. push was it was economic policy that was the big divide between democrats and republicans it back in the day was economic policy and some domestic issues like uh you know dealing with uh you know the size and scope of government in terms of what it should be doing at the federal level and what should be left to the states there were things that democrats and republicans clearly disagreed on but then there were a number of things that were that they were on the kind of the same page with so they didn't seem as crazy as they do now and then over the past like 40 years they've turned into this indistinguishable from Karl Marx's monstrous entity that has no idea where money comes from and they don't understand the basic structure of the economy and they don't understand cause and effect and they don't understand the market pool and they don't understand inflation and they don't understand wages and market demand and all of these other things. They don't see how the ecosystem of the economy operates because they're not in it. They're all these trust fund socialists. All of them are. Like AOC, when she was saying on Twitter the other day, she was saying, well, I'm a Brooklyn girl and we eat Queens boys for whatever, lunch or breakfast. I can't remember what she said. She grew up in Westchester. So I have a friend who went to the school that AOC went to. And my friend is in New York and comes from a very wealthy family in New York. and they work in real estate. And that's all I'm gonna say. And that person went to the same school that AOC did. And they were there similar around the similar within this like same eight year period. And my friend was telling me this is a predominantly white affluent area. And for her to cosplay and pretend that she's from Brooklyn is a joke or a Bronx girl. She's from the Bronx and her to pretend that she's from the Bronx is a joke. This is the tweet that AOC had. Yeah. And she was taught. Actually, this was in defense of Mandami. I'm going to say his name however I want. She's like, yeah, I'm a Bronx girl. We can eat Queens boys for breakfast respectfully. Like, what does that even mean? You're not a Bronx girl. You're a Westchester girl. Like you grew up with boutiques and Starbucks is. That's how you grew up. You're not a Bronx girl. But this is like my point about bringing this up with the left is that they cosplay working class. This ma'am Danny dude, he cosplays as working class. He is from a very wealthy – he's from very wealthy parents. And his mother worked in film. His father is a bougie professor at Columbia. He never, ever, ever in his life worked a job. How do you go from never working a job to you're now mayor of New York? How does it happen? Or you're going to be mayor of New York. I mean, he's probably going to win over Eric Adams in the race. I would be shocked at this point. How is that possible? How and what does that say about voters? You are a moron if you're voting for someone who's never worked a day in their life. If you are choosing as you're elected a full someone who has literally never held a job, I'm not exaggerating, guys. He has literally never worked a day in his life. He's done like some advocacy stuff. And that's it. That his parents have gotten him. Everything that he's ever had has been from his parents. And that's fine and good if you're parents and you want to provide for your children. But it's not good if one of those kids thinks that he's entitled to the mayoral seat of the one of the biggest, if not the biggest city in the United States, one of the biggest cities in the world. What does it say about the voters? What in the world does that say about voters that they would choose someone like that? We are not the same. I think it shows that there's a major divide in the psyche, in the hearts and minds of voters on the right and left in this country. There is no way that I could ever vote for someone who is that far left. I mean, I can't even believe that we're here. Say I have my friends going. Eric Adams is the last hope for New York. Can you just realize that for a moment? Let that hit you in the head for a second. I'm not... That's because he's running as... He's challenging. He's going up against... He's indeed going up against Ma'am Danny. My friend Dave Burge asks this because, you know, one of the policy proposals that Ma'am Demi has is that he wants city-owned grocery stores. My friend goes, instead of spending time and millions of taxpayer dollars to build government grocery stores, why not just cut out the middleman and legalize all shoplifting? He should be mayor. He should be the mayor of New York. That's basically what it is. Just legalize shoplifting. I think that's a great point. Why have government stores and why force taxpayers to subsidize food for everyone? Just legalize shoplifting. It's the same thing. You're just taking out the middleman. That's the taxpayer. Just let everybody. I mean, they kind of do that anyway, don't they? In Los Angeles, they do that. And they actually I want demoted is not the right word, but for the absence of the correct one, they demoted a lot of these higher up classifications of shoplifting down to like basic misdemeanors or nothingness. You know how usually there had to be a monetary value in order for it to be considered class A, B, C, whatever, or a felony? They have done away with all of that in Los Angeles. So in some places, they've already started this. They've already started making this happen. This is crazy. Craziness. So in addition to this, now you start to see... You know, you're you're seeing why things are the I mean, how it's as insane as it is. And it's reflective in everything from law and order. It's it's reflected in medicine. Politics now is infected every single aspect of everything. So that's the other reason why it matters. This New York thing matters because now. It's going to be this is I think more of the far left people are going to be attracted to this guy and attracted to far left causes that make no monetary or logical or mathematical sense at all whatsoever. Speaking of the law and order, Carmelo Anthony was indicted by a grand jury for first degree murder of Austin Metcalf. He could face a possible sentence anywhere to 599 years or life in prison because of his age. He's going to be ineligible for capital punishment. which I think is asinine, but there we, you know, where we are. Yes, he murdered someone. This guy, if you look at the eyewitness accounts and you also look at the accounts from his school and the days leading up to all of this, this guy was bringing knives to school. Carmelo Anthony, it was publicly widely reported that he was bringing knives repeatedly to school for which he had already been suspended. Then he brought a knife to another school to a track meet and And was an antagonist he was looking for trouble you can't tell me that he wasn't you're already in trouble and you get suspended from your your your school for bringing repeatedly a knife to school and then you bring a knife to attract me and then you're seeking out problems and you're like daring people to get you. which according to numerous eyewitness accounts, if anybody ever read any of the charging docs, that's what was cited. I mean, he's like, yeah, try me, try me. Like gesturing to his open bag. And then he gets a knife out of it and stabs this guy to death. Yeah, so yeah, you're probably going to get charged. You're going to get indicted when you take a knife to school and knife someone to death. Spare me the oh, he was an honor student, whatever. Spare that for me because nobody cares. He killed someone. That is all irrelevant and meaningless. 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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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You know, my experience with him and my observation of him is he really doesn't really like strong women.
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Right.
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He likes dutiful, obedient women who compliment him. I find. Even back in the day when I used to do jokes about his hair, you know, every male comedian did jokes about his hair, but he went after me in particular. Ah. And Rosie. Who? And Rosie O'Donnell. Oh, Rosie, yeah. He went bananas on Rosie. So he's not going to like her. Somehow this type of woman really gets in his kishkis.
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Well, he projects, too, also. I think he probably didn't like you because you're not funny. I mean, she says she wants to be Joan Rivers so bad. And Joan Rivers was actually smart, educated, witty. Everything that Joy Behar is not, Joan Rivers was. Like, don't try to be her, right? Just because what's her face? Yeah, Joy Behar. Because she's not funny. There's nothing more annoying than women who aren't funny. She's not funny. She's just bitchy. How was that? Oh, he just went after me. Probably because you were also nastier than everyone else. The reason that he went after what's her face, Rosie, is because she was nasty. It had nothing to do with the criticism. Maybe instead of taking inventory or maybe instead of blaming Trump, take inventory and note how you can you can joke about people without being as nasty as they are. And and unfunny people respond to it. I mean, with for comedy to work, there has to be a shred of truth. Unless you're just I mean, even when you're doing absurdum, you know, ad absurdum, it's still there's a shred of truth in it. Nastiness for the sake of nastiness is the laziest form of an attempt at comedy. And that's why I've never gotten her. I've never gotten her shtick. Was she a comedian? I don't even know what she did before she was placed on. I don't want to know. It's not an invitation. Don't tell me. I don't. My brain is not going to benefit from knowing anything about her. I just don't – I don't see the purpose of it. She's just annoying and going after – we can talk about your hair or how – I get that your eyes are sisters, not twins, but at least make your eyeliner match. So the New York primary, we've got NATO, all the latest with NATO, and then these – This leak, we got some audio coming up that we'll play. I'm not going to do it now, but we'll play at the start of next hour, where SecDef Hegseth was answering questions from NBC, and they were trying to get him with this leak story of, oh, well, now it looks like there's nothing that was destroyed, etc. Well, that's not true. I mean, everybody's disputing that. Everybody from Rubio to... Something is going on, though, in terms of leaks with regards to this administration or... some of these agencies, and we need to figure out who that is and why people are trying. I mean, that's why people are trying to be so divisive. I mean, what would be the purpose of faking that? That's so dumb. I feel like I'm asking a rhetorical question. I mean, yes, designed to specifically hurt the administration. Yes, that's probably why. It just doesn't make it, it just is asinine to leak something like this out there in an attempt to bolster a geopolitical foe. So we're going to discuss all of this, as well as Rubio's response on it, because he's been working hard to set the record straight, too. Plus, I don't know if you've seen this, the trailer to the Fantastic Four is out, and I think it's the most garbage of all of the superhero franchises. I've never been a Fantastic Four fan. It's Marvel, and Fantastic Four almost makes me hate Marvel. It's just ludicrous. None of these characters are appealing. And the way that they changed the thing... Have you seen the way his head's shaped? It's weird. He just looks weird. I don't know why they needed to redo it. And then why did they replace Chris Evans' character? Why is it old-ass Pedro Pascal? Sorry, but he's in this movie now. And I'm... I am such a not a fan of Pedro Pascal. I can't stand him. I think he's the most overhyped actor in all of Hollywood. But he fluffs all the big issues, so that's why they like him. And he's mean to all the people that they don't like. His best role was when the mountain popped his head like a grape in Game of Thrones. That was, I thought, stellar acting. That's on the sizzle reel right there, Cain. Yeah. That's on the sizzle reel. So we're going to discuss that because the trailer's out and it looks horrible. And I think I would rather pull my eyeballs out fresh with pliers out of my head than be forced to endure watching anything beyond the 10 seconds of the trailer that I accidentally watched because the video auto-played on X. So... We're going to dive into a whole bunch of stuff. If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, come pull up a chair by me today. Back in a moment. Don't go anywhere because we'll know. Our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the nation. Patriot Mobile not only wants to save you money, but they're partnering with you because they understand it's very important to be mindful of where your dollars go. 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First of all, all this stuff about the intelligence, this is what a leaker is telling you the intelligence says. That's the game these people play. They read it, and then they go out and characterize it the way they want to characterize, and they're leakers. This is the game they play. So that's number one. Number two, here's a fact. The conversion facility. What you can't do with a nuclear weapon without a conversion facility. We can't even find where it is, where it used to be on the map. You can't even find where it used to be because the whole thing is just blackened out. It's gone. It's wiped out. Then we dropped 12 of the strongest bombs on the planet right down the hole in two places. Everything underneath that mountain is in bad shape. And I refer you to the statement of the IAEA, Mr. Grossinger. You know what he said? He said there was Iran the way it looked the day before the attack. and what their nuclear program looks like now. Two very different things. They are way behind where they were just seven days ago. Now, anything in the world can be rebuilt, but now we know where it is, and if they try to rebuild it, we'll have options there as well. But all this leaker stuff, these leakers are professional stabbers. That's what they are. They go out and they read this stuff, and then they tell you what it says, against the law, but they characterize it for you in a way that's absolutely false. There's no way Iran comes to the table if somehow nothing had happened. This was complete and total obliteration. They're in bad shape. They are way behind today compared to where they were just seven days ago because of what the president did.
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Well, I told you what I thought. I think these leakers should be chained up behind a truck and dragged down a gravel road. I got some I got some I can suggest some if anybody if they're taking any suggestions. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. That's Marco Rubio, who is addressing at a press conference. The I mean, it is insane that these leaks are coming out the way that they are and that they're all designed to undermine the position of the United States. I mean, it's almost like Hominis. What's his face? Ayatollah Hominis doing this himself. Like he's he's the one who's writing these narratives himself. That's what it's like. But they at NATO, they were answering these questions. Now, SecDef Hegseth has said that there is a criminal leak or that it's a criminal leak. And therefore, they are going to investigate. And apparently the FBI is involved in looking at some of the latest headlines on this. The FBI is going to be involved in investigating the source, the origins of these leaks. It is a defense intelligence agency report. And again, it's low confidence. And they were saying that these attacks weren't particularly successful. This is why I think this narrative is so incredibly stupid. I think this narrative is so incredibly stupid. Because think of how long it took for the attacks in terms of launching these explosive drones within Iran. This was a a subterfuge that was two years in the making. You know that Mossad and IDF had eyes on Fornow and these other nuclear facility sites. You knew that they had their eyes on this. So to say that Iran was able in the days prior to just quickly move everything out is one of the dumbest things that I've ever heard. Because in order to believe that, you have to also accept that Mossad and IDF were like, OK, we're going to stop watching these areas now that were this close to, you know, launch date. We're just going to close our eyes and not pay attention to anything that's happening to both of these sites that we have spent two plus exhaustive years monitoring. So we're just going to close our eyes for right now. And if, you know, whatever happens, happens. You have to accept that as a true premise in order to believe the garbage that is being sold here. This is entirely irrelevant from whether or not someone lives Trump or hates Trump. No one cares about anyone's personal preferences. This just has to concern with fact, logic and Occam's razor. That's what this is. I don't believe that. I don't believe that they just closed their eyes and didn't pay attention and that the Iranians were able to get this stuff out. I don't believe it. You shouldn't either because you're not stupid. No one is. I think it's designed to undermine the U.S. and the position, regardless of whether you agree with it or not, it's designed to undermine the U.S. at this particular point. The fact that it was low confidence, meaning that they can't actually, with any kind of veracity, certify the accusations made in the report. It was still a classified report anyway, and it was leaked. So someone leaked classified information designed to harm the United States. I think that's an act of treason, and I think the person who leaked it should be put to death. Hey, you know what? These laws, in order for them to work, have to have teeth. And at some point, the bill comes due. And I'm tired of us not pursuing this in the manner in which it should be pursued. So they said they're doing an investigation right now, trying to figure out maybe perhaps where it originated and run it down. SecDef Hegseth was dealing with it on NBC, Audio Sunbite 8. Listen to this.
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There's a reason the president calls out fake news for what it is. These pilots, these refuelers, these fighters, these air defenders, the skill and the courage it took to go into enemy territory flying 36 hours on behalf of the American people in the world to take out a nuclear program is beyond what anyone in this audience can fathom. And then the instinct, the instinct of CNN, the instinct of the New York Times is to try to find a way to spin it for their own political reasons to try to hurt President Trump or our country. They don't care what the troops think. They don't care what the world thinks. They want to spin it to try to make him look bad based on a leak. Of course, we've all seen plenty of leakers. And what do leakers do? They have agendas. And what do they do? Do they share the whole agenda? information or just the part that they want to introduce. And when they introduce that preliminary report that's deemed to be a low assessment, you know what a low assessment means? Low confidence in the data in that report. And why is there low confidence? Because all of the evidence of what was just bombed by 12, 30,000 pound bombs is buried under a mountain. devastated and obliterated so if you want to make an assessment of what happened at four dough you better get a big shovel and go really deep as iran's nuclear program is obliterated and
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, they act like we don't have satellite imagery. That's the thing that just is stunning to me about this. You know, you have these news agencies that are running these headlines and you have they they're able to access satellite imagery. In fact, the latest satellite imagery shows the widespread destruction of the Esafan nuclear facility. and that was done by a U.S. Navy Tomahawk missile strike, super widespread damage. That sub, by the way, is 400 miles away, and they struck this site with two dozen missiles, and then you had the B-2 bombers that took out the Fornow facility. But you, I mean, in the latest imagery, and the metadata is already in an image, et cetera, et cetera, the, I mean, it's obliterated. I mean, there's black marks on the thing where buildings were. So... These news agencies that are able to access all this information at any other time suddenly are completely helpless to verify that the accusation that is being made by these leakers is false. Now, I think the question that at some point will need to be answered is by how much does this set back the regime? And then if the regime is still in place, how long until they start trying to recover the information? their enrichment process i think those are now those are completely legitimate questions unfortunately the legacy press isn't asking those questions because they're more interested in trying to ding the administration they're acting on behalf of democrats who wanted to placate the iranian regime with pallets of cash they wanted to pay them off by sending actual actual currency over on wooden pallets in the dead of night. They wanted to placate them by loosening sanctions and allowing them to make money off of previously sanctioned crude sales. They wanted to give them the world on a string. That's what they were trying to do with Iran. And I think it's because they wanted to be allies because they are hostile towards Saudi Arabia, the left. Because remember, Marxism plays into this to a very, very strong degree. And a lot of people discount that in this whole Shia versus Sunni, in this whole geopolitical sphere. It absolutely does. In fact, that whole ideology was part and parcel of the Shah versus the Mullahs. So... the questions that they could be asking are ones that they're not asking. Because I think in order for them to ask those, they kind of indict themselves and their favorite party's history with that area. And I think they don't want to self-incriminate. So they don't really ask any of those questions. But I think it's fair to ask. So what does that mean? If it is the... If it's been set back, by how long has it been set back? If the regime is going to remain in place, if it doesn't look like the Persian people are going to get rid of the regime, then what is the estimation on how long it would take for them to rebuild and recover some of this enrichment process? I feel like that's a legitimate question. We've got more on that coming up later. So I saw the trailer for the new Fantastic Four, and it looks heinous. Out of all of the superhero franchises, I hate Fantastic Four with a burning passion of a thousand suns because it is the stupidest. It is dumb. We don't need another iteration of, you know, here's our ragtag Avengers team. Here's our ragtag, you know, space cowboys. Here's our rag. We don't need it. And then you have Pedro Pascal, who's the most insufferable, talentless hack in all of Hollywood, who is playing Reed Richards in a completely unbelievable fashion. He looks like a doucher. I accidentally watched like 10 seconds of this trailer and I just could not bleach my eyes fast enough. I've never liked Fantastic Four. It makes me hate Marvel. Fantastic Four is so bad. It makes me hate Marvel. Why this franchise? Why this one of all of them? And isn't this like the third time that they've tried this? Yeah. The third time. So it has Pedro Pascal, Vanessa Kirby. I don't know. Joseph Quinn, actually, I don't dislike strictly because he was in Stranger Things as Eddie. And he did this sweet Metallica or no, sorry, Slayer. Was it Metallica? I can't remember anymore. He did that sweet solo. when they were in The Other World. So I just, you know, I thought that was cool. So I'm less opposed to him. I just feel bad that he's in it with, you know, Pedro Pascal and all of this. I just, I'm not, and I don't dislike Vanessa Kirby. I just don't like her in this role, really. And I really cannot stand Pedro Pascal. I can't stand his big, thick glasses that he doesn't need, that he wears for fashion. I can't stand that. I'm just not a fan of him to the point where I hate everything he's ever done, except when he got his head squashed in by the mountain. Do you like Fantastic Four? It's the worst aspect of Marvel. It's the worst one. No, not really. I watched the original one with Jessica Alba and I was like, kill me now.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know that I've seen even one of them.
SPEAKER 13 :
I watched one of them when they came out and I never watched another. Like the one with the silver surfer, I'm like, this is stupid. It's so dumb. I'm not watching it. It's dumb even for a comic fantasy. It's dumb. And Pedro Pascal, this is right after. It's really smart to sit here and attack people and say I don't like bullies and bullies are anyone who has a viewpoint with which I disagree because it's essentially what he said while you're promoting your movie. I guess he didn't learn of the Rachel Zegler thing. yeah speaking of which did you hear what she's apparently doing she's in talks to portray uh maria and sound of music kill us all sound of music cane don't you have to be able to sing like well i think so yeah i don't think she's got a good tone i'm not a fan of her either Yeah, we'll talk more about this coming up because they're just ruining everything out there. There's nothing original in Hollywood anymore. And as we do so the folks who help make the program possible, relief factor, relief factor is a product that a lot of people take because they're tired of dealing with pain every single day and they don't want to have to go on like pain meds either. You actually have a way. to manage pain, a daily drug-free supplement designed specifically to help manage those aches and pains naturally. I know my husband uses it because he has sports injuries that he's dealt with his whole life, like knee pain and things like that. And it's helped with inflammation a lot. And he has to worry less when he goes and lifts weights and he's in the gym. And Relief Factor uses A number of very powerful ingredients, turmeric, omega-3 fatty acids, resveratrol, and it's designed to target that inflammation and support joint health. And it's 100% drug-free. And you can try it as well. They have a three-week quick start that you can try for just $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. You don't have to live with pain. So try their Relief Factor's three-week quick start. And you can support a veteran-owned company. And then you can see the difference for yourself. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Because scientists changed the gender of one mouse to make it go from a chick to a dude. And then they were able to have a baby mouse from it with another male mouse after. Now they're saying that that's a total scientific way to pave the path for gay men to have kids. Remember the Tower of Babel? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There you go. Why are we doing this? Why? Like, stop it. I mean, you could cure AIDS, but, you know, you could cure cancer. You could cure Alzheimer's. No, no, we got to change this she mouse to a he mouse and make it have a baby. That's what we're doing instead. Meanwhile, aliens are like, this is why we're not coming. And this is why the Sasquatch stays hidden. Because if I were a Sasquatch, to hell with you all too. I would say the same thing. A clown mask burglary suspect was identified by the parent. This sounds like a clown horror movie that I want to watch. It's, where's this at? They said that it's in Kentucky. The Vanderburgh County Sheriff's Office took a juvenile suspect into custody. It was a series of break-ins at Saturday. He was wearing a clown mask, but an adult was able to identify the suspect. You're always identifiable. Don't wear a clown mask because I feel like that just brings more attention to your shenanigans. A man was arrested for DUI after he crashed into a Fresno backyard and fell asleep on the patrol car. Wow, that's like really drunk. Drunky McDrunkface ran right into, he also ran right into a kid's treehouse. It's so sad. And he was arrested because they suspected that because he smelled like a keg and was slurred in his speech and also ran into someone's house that he may have been under the influence. I mean, he crashed right through a brick wall. Don't tell Dan Patrick because he's going to blame the pot bears. One gummy bear will give you marijuana AIDS and you'll walk in front of a train and die. That's a real quote from Dan Patrick. Real quote from him. Should wearing deodorant be a part of the social contract? That should even be a question. As president of the United States, I will mandate that everybody has to wear deodorant. And if you don't, I'm going to shoot your armpits off. That's what's going to happen. That's going to be the punishment right there. So, yes, please, for the love of all things holy, be nice. There's aluminum-free deodorant. Wear it. Tom's of Maine doesn't count. That smells like a dirty Birkenstock that hides a dead raccoon smell. Don't do that. Stick with us. We've got a lot more on the way. Recently, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis legalized gold and silver as acceptable currency, meaning that Floridians cannot make transactions in gold and silver, thus creating an alternative to the U.S. dollar. So I guess all the inflation and national debt that's spiraling out of control, not to mention the recent credit downgrade for the United States, has finally opened up all lawmakers' eyes. The writing has been on the wall for a long time, and it's time to protect yourself against the declining value of the dollar. And that's exactly why I partnered with Goldco, the top rated precious metals company. and move forward with confidence.
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SPEAKER 13 :
Welcome back to the program. I'm trolling. I got a screenshot of the ambiguously gay duo and a screenshot of the Human Torch writing the thing on Fantastic Four, and I just tweeted it out because it's literally the same thing. Anyway, hi. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. So POTUS, he's in the Netherlands. He's in... Kane. He's in Greta Thunberg's home country. He is. It's Greta Thunberg. She's from the Netherlands. She tried to enter the Gaza. But audio somebody for he NATO chief called him daddy. Wait, actually, do we do four or five first? No, do five first and then we'll follow up with four. We've got to do this in order. Audio somebody five first.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, we may do papers on it, Marco. Maybe we're going to do papers. I don't even know if you need them. They're not going to be fighting each other. They've had it. They've had a big fight, like two kids in a schoolyard. You know, they fight like hell. You can't stop them. Let them fight for about two, three minutes. Then it's easier to stop them.
SPEAKER 25 :
And then daddy has to sometimes use strong language. You have to use strong language. Every once in a while, you have to use a certain word. I think we have to join the house.
SPEAKER 13 :
huh huh so he just he he did kind of call him daddy there audio some bite four trump noticed that immediately well listen mark ritter the nato chief who is your friend um he called you daddy earlier
SPEAKER 01 :
Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, he likes me. I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard, okay? He did it very affectionately. Daddy, you're my daddy.
SPEAKER 13 :
I really want... Can we just save this for forever? That's pretty funny. He called me daddy. Hey, there's your daddy. There you go, right there. You're my daddy. That's not what he said. It's not... I mean, you can go with it, you know. And I was reading, somebody was noting his one-liners today. Yeah, that's my daddy. Call me daddy. Heads chopped off all over Africa. Did you get that one? I think you're listening to it. We do have that. Yeah, can we? Let me just play this real quick. I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's right.
SPEAKER 1 :
No, it isn't.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, it's not because it doesn't want to play.
SPEAKER 03 :
It hates you. We have coming in. The Congo is coming in and Rwanda is coming in. That was a vicious war that went on, a machete war. Heads chopped off all over Africa. They're coming in. We did two others in addition to that. Nobody's ever done anything like this. No, I consider him a person that's... Heads chopped off all over Africa.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I mean... All over. I'm not, I actually like it. I just think it's funny the way he just says it so directly because you immediately, there's no dancing around the issue. They just immediately have to go, wait, what? Wait, what? Yes, that's what he said. That's what he said. You're my, oh, I'm totally saving this. Thank you, Steve. We're going to have to make that a stinger. part of the show forever just saying yeah yeah i'm just saying it's gonna have to go uh it's gonna have to go on the soundboard if it goes on the soundboard man that's legit so the uh i NATO, I think they've agreed tentatively to an increase in defense spending as a percentage of GDP for each nation. Yes, Cain? Yes. And this was a huge win, I think, for POTUS. And this is the Secretary General of NATO. Listen to this. I mean, it's kind of shocked to hear them say this. I was actually kind of surprised about this. Listen.
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For too long, one ally, the United States, carried too much of the burden of that commitment. And that changes today. President Trump, dear Donald, you made this change possible. Your leadership on this has already produced $1 trillion in extra spending from European allies since 2016. And the decisions today will produce trillions more for our common defense to make us stronger and fairer by equalizing spending between America and America's allies.
SPEAKER 13 :
You're my daddy. That's right. That's the way it is, man. I didn't have enough audio in that cane. I'm going to need it again so I can... You're my daddy. That's right. You're my daddy. That's what he just said to him right there. It is. Yeah. And then he goes, you know what? Go ahead and... Oh, now it's not playing. We're going to Drax. Timing's everything. Just ruined it. Timing's everything. It's just ruined. It's over now. Forever. The moment's passed. It's long gone. So, yeah, that's very, I mean, I've never, I don't think NATO's ever said, you know what, you guys are doing all the work. Can we help? That's never been said.
SPEAKER 14 :
Also, I've been paying attention to the news all morning, and the media hasn't said anything about NATO thanking Trump for increasing the spending in defense, therefore lowering the United States' responsibility overall.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and you know, and that's funny because they always say, Trump's trying to end NATO. He's a Russian stooge. Wow, he's like the worst Russian stooge that's ever stooged because he just got everybody to agree to an increase to spending on defense per GDP. So he's like really the worst, the worst Russian stooge then. I mean, you're fired as Russian stooge. It's just bad, you know? I mean... Mm, that's just not very good. So I think right now, so far, it seems like it's going fairly well for NATO, but NATO not so much for New York City. Mm, mm. What to say about New York City? Audio soundbite 13. Well, listen to him right here. He's a jihadist who's only, what, I think what he's been here, not born here. I think he's only been a citizen for, what, seven years? Yeah. Audio soundbite 13. Listen.
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Ameya Mamdani, would you welcome Prime Minister Netanyahu to New York City for whatever he comes for, given the US is not the signature to the ICC, so he can travel to the US, unlike a lot of other countries. Would Ameya Mamdani welcome Benjamin Netanyahu to the city?
SPEAKER 17 :
No. As mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu. This is a city that our values are in line with international law. It's time that our actions are also. Even though the U.S. is not a signature of the ICC? No, it's time that we actually step up and make clear what we are willing to do to showcase the leadership that is sorely missing in the federal administration.
SPEAKER 13 :
Why would he arrest him, though? For what purpose? Just because they don't like him? He's changed his accent again, I can say. Yeah, it's so weird. He's changed his accent. He's not pandering anymore. Interesting. I'm just curious as to what he would what he would charge him with. Oh, wait. Is the accusation like genocide or something like that? I mean, let's ignore what Gaza has done. I mean, historically for we're going to relitigate this again. I noticed that all of the people who whose big grift is hate to Jews, that they that's one of the things that they overlook. You know, we still have like hostages, right? There's still hostages from that October 7th genocide. But hey. Just saying. Why? What? Like, what is the what would be the stated? What's the what's the violated law? He just says stuff because he thinks that that's what his base wants to hear. He's not a bright man. He's a nepo baby. He is where he is because of his parents. I don't think his parents are bright people, but it is, you know, just that's he's where they are. What a what a in swan song for New York, though. Just wild. We're going to talk more about this coming up. Also, a couple of other things. Let me pull up my rundown because I want to make sure that we're touching on everything today, too. We were talking about U.S. aid money still. I mean, it's still being funded. I also wanted to touch on this mosquito-sized drone. China, they said that they've made a mosquito-sized drone. It is an inspect-inspired micro-drone. And it's apparently going to compete with the Robo Bee, which I like that name better, and the Black Hornet. And it has a range of military and civilian uses. It's barely the size of a human fingernail. It looks kind of like a toy. And it's made to resemble a mosquito. It has two yellow leaf-like wings, a black vertical body, and three hair-thin legs. It was developed apparently in the Hunan province. And it is a new drone. It's going to... It's suited for information reconnaissance and special missions on the battlefield. Now, I think that you definitely could use it for information gathering. That's for sure. But I don't... I mean, it's not really going to be able to actually be used on the battlefield. It would mainly be used in reconnaissance. So... When you think of this, I think that the balloon was just a stunt to see... how the U.S. would respond to something so egregious. I mean, if they can do this, if they really wanted to do reconnaissance, they wouldn't send a balloon like that over. There's a million things they could do. They could send little drones like this all over. That, you know, could easily skirt detection if they really wanted to. They wouldn't just float a balloon over the continental United States. It's a big old dumb balloon. It's easily visible from everywhere. That was just a test to see how the United States would react. Now, I think Trump himself would walk out on the White House balcony and shoot it down with a with something. But I don't know. They the drone warfare, the future. This is all pretty unbelievable. The micro drones. So they said that in China, they're talking about using drones to spy on neighbors, individuals of interest. I think they already use this. I think that this is something that's already implemented. But now they're like maybe signaling it for use in the wider market. And the size of the drone limits the amount of tech that it can carry. So it has super small batteries. It has to be charged regularly. They can only carry tiny sensors. So the operator to any kind of micro drone would have to be nearby to And you would have to cycle them out and recharge them if you're going to conduct a longer reconnaissance mission and redeploy and sift their data and all that stuff. So there are limitations to it. But I think the potential for it is pretty. This isn't the first mini or insect-inspired drone either that's been out there. Harvard did the Robobee. And then there was – it's similar to this thing that's out. And the Robobee was barely the size of a penny. And it had four razor-thin legs and two flat little wings. And some of these micro drone models can swim underwater and fly. So and then you have the palm sized Black Hornet. They're bigger and they're used currently by military. So we have those that are in the U.S. military in the UK and they look like a little like a little tiny little helicopter. They look like a little tiny helicopter. And so that that kind of bridges the gap between, you know, the drones as we know them and then the limitations of micro drones. And apparently Ukraine's special forces, they've been using Black Hornets for reconnaissance in Kursk since, I think, 21, 22. So they've been using them for quite a long time. Interesting, though. As we move, folks, our partners that will bring you the program. 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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All right, so first up, there's a couple here. One of them's sad. I don't really want to do it because it's a sad one. This, though, there's a Florida man who was naked in a mud cupboard and he vandalized a van and he was arrested. Yeah, I mean, in the middle of the day, a 35-year-old named Saeed Khan told deputies that he was following the sun under guidance from a higher power. And he was arrested because he was vandalizing a work van and trespassing on private property while being completely covered in mud and totally nude. He emerged from a barn. It was like way out, looks like it's in the middle of a swamp on the map. 31 years old. They had to blur him out on all the body cam footage that they released, but he literally came out of a barn and they took him into custody. And of course they were also checking him to see if he was on any kind of mind-altering substances, which, to be quite honest, it kind of seems like he was. A Broward, Florida man and a gas station clerk got into a fight over the price of beer, and it ended up with one being shot. I mean, there's better ways to solve disputes. The Broward Sheriff's Office said that it was at a Valero, and 46-year-old Abdullah Monther got into an argument with the customer over the price of beer. The customer, he threw an unknown object at Monther, and the clerk took out a gun from under the counter and shot the man in the right calf muscle. It showed him take his pistol out. He called the wounded customer, something I can't say. And then he proceeded to follow him around with it. And at that point, Look, you've got to be careful in those instances, even in Florida, because the moment that you become the aggressor and that you have the total power, you're going to have a prosecutor come after you and argue that you are the antagonist in that situation, and therefore you're not using it in self-defense, that you actually are the agitator, and then they're going to charge you. So this guy, because he was following this guy around, that's exactly what happened. So he was charged. I think he bonded out, though. They didn't say what his bond was, but... He was able, he apparently bonded out. A Florida man got busted with a stolen car while he was literally pumping gas.
SPEAKER 14 :
He's putting gas in the stolen car?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. I mean, it's nice of him, I guess. He's going to return it. Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office. They were tracking it after getting an alert. And then they tracked it, found the guy, literally found the guy just at a Shell gas station. He stopped really close to where he stole the vehicle. And then they even got aerial footage of it. And he was standing outside filling it with gas. And they were able to quickly, immediately take him into custody and recover the vehicle, which is something that never, doesn't really happen when you get your car stolen, right? Like, it very rarely happens that you get it back or you get it back to where it's not completely trashed and destroyed. So that was the good news for that guy. Let's see here. We also have this individual. Wait, where's this at? I almost lost it. This 74-year-old Florida man, he fought firefighters with a shotgun because he was trying to steal their fire truck. Of course it was a bad choice that he made. This is why Cain doesn't like old people. 74-year-old Floridian man. He went on a rampage. He chased paramedics with a shotgun, punched firefighters, and then tried to steal the fire truck.
SPEAKER 14 :
How old is he?
SPEAKER 1 :
74.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good God.
SPEAKER 13 :
He's from Ridge Manor, and police had to call for backup, and then they had to get medical in. The 74-year-old, he fell once, but when he fell for the last time, he couldn't get up because he was super drunk. And then as he was trying to get up, they were trying to help him, and then he got very combative. and he was chasing them out of his house, and he hit one firefighter with his shotgun, like he just used it as a melee weapon. And then he ran to the fire truck, climbed inside, and a first responder was still in the passenger seat. As the dude tried to drive away, they pulled up as the truck was pulling out, and they intervened. The deputies had to climb literally on the moving fire truck and pull the man out. And then as they were doing that, he started punching cops. How do you go from being so drunk that you can't get up to I'm climbing in a fire truck and I'm punching out cops as they try to get me out?
SPEAKER 14 :
And you're 74.
SPEAKER 13 :
How do you go from being so drunk you can't get up to that? I don't understand that physiology here. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Third hour. Next. The folks who helped make the program possible. We have Kel-Tec, the PR-57. It's one of the new ones that Kel-Tec came out with at the start of the year, the PR-57, which is a rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7 available now. And you can go to your FFL, order it online, have it shipped to your FFL. Made in the USA from a Florida-based company. And with the PR 57, they achieve the smaller stature in a number of different ways, not only with the rotary barrel, but also the unique top loading design, which uses stripper clips instead of, you know, traditional magazines. So if a leftist talks about clips instead of The magazine in this case, they're going to be accurate. It has an MSRP of only $399, so it's super affordable for everyone. Quickest and easiest field strip available. Low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. It's very similar to my G43X magazine. in terms of lightness and all of that. And so if you like 5.7, this is an interesting option for you. But it's made in America from Kel-Tec. You can learn more at keltecweapons.com, K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com, Innovation Performance Kel-Tec, keltecweapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Say that he is far too extreme on economic issues and even issues involving Israel. I'm curious what your thoughts are on him ideologically. Is that does he does he have an ideology that you would want your candidates in 2026 to have?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, from the standpoint of House Democrats and what our focus has been, clearly we have an affordability crisis in the United States of America. And our focus will continue to be on driving down the high cost of living in this country. Donald Trump promised to lower costs on day one. Costs haven't gone down. They're gone.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. So somehow, wait. How is it? So he, wait, is he blaming ma'am Donnie on Trump? Hakeem Jeffries?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Boy, oh boy. Oh my gosh. I got to gear up for this kind of stupid. Let me stretch. I got to stretch. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER 14 :
Is there anything they won't blame on Trump?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh wait, I'm talking to myself. Welcome back to the show. Top of the third hour. The chat's at Rumble. Channel 347 is where you can watch the radio program. The point of him blaming Trump, I mean, then really what he's saying is that they can't say that the rise of this guy is like a consequence of Biden's They can't really say that. But it really is, though, if you think about it, it really is. I mean, it's a consequence of Biden because Biden was considered establishment. And also, then when they ran Kamala, no one picked her. And I think they were mad about it. The other stupid narrative that I hear, excuse me. Is that I don't think I know that there was a lot of audio. We don't need audio about it, but there were a lot of Democrats and members of the leftist commentariat that argued. That Mamdani's race or his is winning this primary race for the Democrat nominee for the seat for mayor is a result of immigrants being repulsed and they're mad and they came out. That's a lie. In fact, some of the data. You pull this up. That was published this morning and even like a lot of the polling going into the race that which showcases that it absolutely is not due to quote unquote, like this immigrant rebellion. You know who it is that pushed him over the top, that broke him, like completely put him over the line? Older white liberal women. Think Cynthia Nixon, that kind. Gosh, they're a plague up on the earth. That kind. The older, white, liberal, and by liberal, I don't really mean liberal. I mean Marxist women. The older, white, Marxist women. Those are the ones that put him over the top. That's pretty something. So they're trying to misrepresent it and act like it's because of Deportations of people who are in the country illegally and it's not at all. It's Older white marks women female Marxists. That's it. Those are the ones who were doing it That actually shocked me The turn even going into this he was leading with that demo he was double digits over Cuomo and You know, I mean everybody else was in the dust with that demo that demo specifically So what's happening with the men in New York? What is happening with the men in New York? Because that demo was dwarfing even New York males going out to vote. Are they just, is this just the end stage of mandom because of third and fourth wave feminism in New York? Is that what we're seeing? Because it's what it seems to indicate. This is pretty fascinating. So the, my heavens. So now it's going to be Eric Adams who is going to face off against Ma'am Danny. This is a guy, I don't know if you've seen some of the stuff that he has said, Ma'am Danny. But he has said before, defund the New York police. He says queer liberation means defund the police. He said things like that. Some of his tweets are... pretty insane, if you've seen them. He said things like, we can tax the rich, heal the sick, house the poor, defund police, and build a socialist New York. We're getting into the area of the left saying, well, finally, someone's trying real socialism. It's failed everywhere that it's ever been implemented. The reason that but their their argument is that, well, the reason that it's failed is because it wasn't implemented correctly. How do you implement it correctly? That doesn't make any sense. I mean, he's and he was plus he was over plus 10 over Cuomo. That's terrifying. He had a lot of the labor union support. MoveOn supported him. He endorses the whole phrase, quote, globalize the infantada. So he's a jihadi. If you believe that, you're a jihadist because that's what that means. You're declaring war on everything. People who think that it doesn't mean that have never, they've never lived. They don't live lives. He believes in freezing rent rates. Universal child care. So he thinks child care should be universally free and public, open to everyone. He believes in funding completely, quote unquote, transgender health care with tax dollars. So he believes in full. I'm like reading literally off of his platform that is available on his Web site. He believes in free gender surgeries for all transgenders in New York funded by the taxpayer. He's also called for $65 million initially, and this includes minors to fund their transitions. He believes in an over 50% tax rate on top earners. What? Remember how they want salt? They want to be able to have salt deductions. But now look what they're going to do. They're literally going to they voted literally for this is why I don't believe New York or anybody else should get salted. Screw you. No, they literally just voted for higher taxes for themselves. And then they're going to demand that you offset that. We all have to offset it with salt and the big, beautiful bill. But they want they voted for higher taxes for themselves. Oh, my gosh. So they want to be able to pay less federally because they stupidly paid more by voting for more locally. Not kidding you. That's how that works. They want to pay less federally and they think they should have to pay less federally because they voted for more higher taxes locally. Now, do you understand how the SALT debate, how that's why people are mad about it? No, I don't think they should get any kind. No, screw you. You just have you just elected to pay higher taxes across the board. There you go. Now, Adams is running as an independent. And he's the only one who's actually competitive. And that's pretty much it. How is this going to work out? Prediction markets give him a 94% to 99% chance. He's going to beat Adams, probably. So there's just no getting around that. I mean, he's, you know... But the narrative is that he took on the Democrat Party establishment and that he was able to edge out the establishment's golden boy, which was Andrew Cuomo. Keep in mind, before COVID, Cuomo was on track to run for the presidential nomination. I think if the elderly nursing home of all those people hadn't lost their lives in that, I think that he probably... would have been the pick over Kamala Harris to replace Joe Biden. They would have run with him. He was being groomed to be the next big thing within the Democrat Party. I mean, he backs Hamas. He's tapped into the anti-Semitic vote. He's a Nepo baby. He was raised in extreme wealthy privilege. All of that. So, man, New York is going to be utterly destroyed after this. I have no words. When you see all the stuff that he has backed, it's insane. He's literally said, no, we want to defund the police. He's been saying this for years. Well, he's only been a citizen for seven years. He majored in African studies. He says taxation isn't theft. Capitalism is. How do you take Karl Marx and make it stupider? May I introduce you to Zoran Mamdani? He actually, by the way, he has actually said this. I'll send you the tweet here. He has actually said this. This is an actual quote, kind of his. He says, taxation isn't theft, capitalism is.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, my God. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 13 :
And his solutions to the increasing prices is to freeze all rent. So you remember the moratorium that we had unconstitutionally with the CDC after COVID and how they wanted to get involved with property owners and freeze rent and basically have property owners subsidize the living expenses of the people who are renting their properties. So they got free rent immediately. and had everything paid for, utilities, everything at the expense of property owners, who still had to pay taxes at the end of the year. They didn't get a moratorium on that. So he wants to implement that citywide. So freezing rents, doing away with them entirely in some places, and owning all of the grocery stores. This guy's a failed rapper whose mom directed his music videos. This is who they're choosing in New York. I have no words, Cain. You had anything to add?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't. No, I don't. This is just so wild. I can't imagine a Cuomo losing in the primary to this guy. I don't even believe the polling was real. Are they manipulating elections in New York or something? This is what I'm thinking.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wall Street Journal has an interesting story. It says goodbye, fancy bar. Hello, at home pizza party. Young Americans are cutting back. There's a huge drive and decline of spending amongst Gen Z. They said we feel rich drinking free coffee. So the shopping spree for young Americans is over. There's going to be a lot of things changing because of them. I think it's fine. Is it going to affect our consumer culture and materialist, you know, predilection in society i don't know maybe um but very uh very interesting so you know we'll we'll see how this goes uh let's see skimpy men's swimsuits are making a splash let's not let's not let's not dudes i've heard that speedos for dudes they think are more comfortable than trunks is that true i can't imagine why Well, every man that I've heard men debate this, like friends and family debate this, and everyone talks about chafing. I'm actually kind of curious. Is that really more, because not every man should wear a Speedo, like every woman should wear a bikini.
SPEAKER 14 :
I feel like that, like with shoes or socks, it's like, oh, the tighter it is, the better. No, no. Yeah. No, it's not comfortable.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 13 :
Place arrest a man whose name is literally Looney Tunes. After a three-day search. Oh, okay. Yeah, there we go. Literally, his name is Looney John Franklin Toon.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hope he goes by his middle names.
SPEAKER 13 :
Looney John Franklin Toon is his actual name. It's not a Florida story. It's an Oregon. K-A-T-U. Channel 2. They said that he was arrested on a search warrant. He was taken into custody without incident. And he had a warrant for his arrest. Just the name alone is shocking. I don't know. A British groom was arrested for trying to marry a nine-year-old girl at Disneyland. Was he killed instantly? A British man was arrested for trying to marry a nine-year-old girl at Disneyland Paris. And he was a registered pedophile on the British sex offenders list, according to prosecutors. I wonder what his name was. It took place in front of 100 mortified guests at Sleeping Beauty's castle. And this is Disneyland Paris. And they said that he was wanted back in his homeland. I'm pretty – yeah, he's not a regular British man. Let's just say that. I mean, he looks like a Muslim guy. I'm just going to say. He looks – that would be – I'm going to say what nobody else has the balls to say. Makes sense. Anyway, so, yeah, they said it was a fake ceremony. He had a wedding cake, chairs for guests, all this stuff. The nine-year-old girl had not suffered any harm. And an individual who was recruited to act as a wedding guest said, we thought we were all going to attend a wedding, and then we were shocked when they realized the bride was a child. Oh, I'm sorry. Please tell me this guy was immediately put to death. I'm just saying this is just and it wasn't a joke. It was like he actually she had four inch heels taped to her feet. The four year old did. The four year old did. Oh, my gosh. Let's see. Church wardens resigned over a botched restoration of a Virgin Mary statue. Oh, my gosh. It really wasn't that bad. It's the Virgin of La Macarena and it's a Catholic effigy in the Basilica de Santa Maria La Esperanza in Seville. And I can't even. They said it was a bad. Oh, my gosh. I can't. This is what they said. Apparently, this is a measure that they use. They said it wasn't quite as starkly awful as monkey Christ. But they said that her eyelashes were lengthened. They changed her skin tone. They changed her dress and jewelry. I mean, is it that bad? Is it that bad? I don't think it's that bad. But honestly, I would not have known if I would have just seen it. I don't know. But they're up in arms and they had two wardens that quit. So, I don't know. We got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. More in store.
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SPEAKER 02 :
They took bits and pieces from a leaked top secret intelligence report. And by the way, I understand the FBI is investigating who was the source of that leak because it's an illegal leak to CNN. And this is the same fake news CNN reporter who wrote the story alleging that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation, which we know is one of the greatest political hoaxes this country and the American public have ever seen. And that CNN story does not to the facts. There was a total and complete obliteration of Iran's nuclear facilities. And because of the president's strike, Because of the precision of our United States military in this perfectly executed mission, Iran no longer has the capability to produce a nuclear weapon as imminently as they did prior to the strike. The American people and the world should be grateful for that. And it's disgusting that CNN and the New York Times are disparaging not just the president, but our brave men and women who helped conduct this highly successful operation. What kind of consequence could the leaker face?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that's a big thing. What kind of consequence could that leaker face? Because, I mean, it was classified information. And, of course, we're talking about the story that started. This started, like, building up last night. The leaker were... It's a report. It's a classified report. Defense Intelligence Agency. It's a classified report that was... It's low confidence, meaning that there's no... There's no vetting of it and there's no, they're saying that it's not accurate because they didn't look at the accuracy. There's no way to, there's no accuracy, there's no assessment to it. And it was just a low confidence report that was classified that said not a lot was ruined by the striking of these nuclear facilities. And another part of that narrative was that, well, somehow Iran had moved a lot of the materials out before it was bombed, which is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And I say this because we know for a fact that Mossad had infiltrated and had set up these, you know, these drone bases that they could detonate remotely, these drone bases within Iran. They were getting trucks in Iran. They had eyes on all of these facilities. And this was a two plus year long. reconnaissance op. And they had eyes on this. So you're telling me that they in the days leading up to actually kicking off the mission, the conclusion, the denouement of the mission, you're telling me that they just decided to close their eyes and didn't pay attention to these sites that they've had under surveillance for two years? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They would have known. And that's the argument that's being made is that, oh, well, in the days leading up to it, I ran, hurried up and got everything out. You're telling me that they were able to get past all of the eyes that were on this? I don't believe that. But that's what you have to believe in order to believe that these... that the accusation wrapped with these leaks are accurate. And it's not. So I don't believe that it is. I just want to see people punished for leaking classified information that seeks to undermine the United States on an international stage and weaken our national security. That's what I would like to see. It's the fact that I guess not a lot of people know what that means for it to be low level. So I don't know. I don't know what that means. Why they think that that's unimportant. That's a significant thing. So again, welcome back. Dana Lash with you. I was looking at this thing when I wanted to add on the story that we've been watching this week, this push to sell government land, government owned land out west, which I think the federal government owns too much land. But I also believe that The part in this, why isn't this just relegated back to the states, the land that is under federal control in each of these states? And I said this earlier this week and there were some drive bys that missed that entire point. Then give it back to the states and allow the states to determine what to do with the land within their state. That should be I think that's a that's to me, that's like the most obvious way to handle this situation. But I don't know why there are Republicans that are not supportive of that. Like people like Mike Lee that seem to think that the federal government can just sell it without any input from the states. And there's no guarantee that it wouldn't go to like BlackRock or CCP or etc. or anything to that nature. I don't know why. There was... I'm going to pull this up. The accusation that it's because we have a shortage of homes. The data doesn't support this, though. In fact, it shows that the monthly supply of new houses in the United States has actually increased. And this is from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S. Census Bureau as it pertains to the housing inventory estimate. And it looks at total housing units in the United States. And that's actually on an increase, significantly increased. The drop between 2010 and I would say maybe 2018 really kicked up into gear, even kicked up during COVID and is still on an upwards trend. So this idea that it's a housing shortage is a lie. It's not a housing shortage. There's no data that supports the accusation that it is a housing shortage. The problem is, Cain and I have discussed ad nauseum, is cost. It's expenses. not just cost of living, which has been driven by reckless government spending, printing of money, quantitative easing, inflation, etc., etc., etc., but also the cost of goods and materials, the cost of living, inflation, etc. All of that, that is the problem. It's not because there are... I get so aggravated because they act like there's not enough houses for people that are in the country, and that's actually... All the data... from not just the census, but the federal assessment shows that it's false. It's false. Again, all the false narratives today. What is up with that? Get the false narrative with the For Now facility. And by the way, Lorraine's got a piece that's running here in a moment over at Chapter and Verse on Substack where she gets into some of those accusations, particularly as it pertains to the Fornow facility. Because at first they think that they actually put a lot in that facility because they, and by they I mean the Mullis, believed that it was impenetrable. And they kind of had all their eggs in one basket. I've read, and this kind of goes into one of the other things that I was reading, that because they believe that that facility and that storage entity was so impenetrable that they actually, there may be more resources lost than what everyone is estimating publicly, which that would be a good thing. That would be a good thing to see, to have that. That would be a very good thing. Now, POTUS is in the Netherlands. He's there for NATO meeting with world leaders. One of them already called him daddy. Already said he was like daddy. He did meet with Zelensky. Was Zelensky in a suit for this meeting? Because I saw a photo of him in a suit. And someone said, oh, my gosh, Zelensky is at NATO in a suit. Was he in a suit for POTUS's meeting? Audio sent by two. POTUS said that he did meet with him. This is what he had to say. I think we had Zelensky.
SPEAKER 03 :
Did you discuss any ceasefire in this Russian Ukrainian? No, no. I just I wanted to know how he's doing. It was very nice, actually. We had little rough times. Sometimes he was couldn't have been nicer. I think I'd like to see an end to this. I do. I think what I took from the meeting couldn't have been nicer, actually. But I took from the meeting that he'd like to see it end. I think it's a great time to end it. I'm going to speak to Vladimir Putin, see if we can get it ended. But look, these are brave people. They're fighting these wars all over the place. You know, last week they had, I guess, close, I told you, close to 7,000 young soldiers. Russian and Ukrainian soldiers were killed, 7,000 in one week. It's crazy. It's crazy. So I'll be speaking to Putin. No, I had a good meeting with... With Zelensky. And I had a lot of good meetings. We had a lot of good meetings with a lot of people, a lot of great leaders. But he's he's fighting a brave battle. It's a tough battle.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hmm. Hmm. So and he was apparently in a suit is what the. I know he does actually own a suit. He doesn't just own, you know, his his cosplaying fatigues, just saying. Now, to the point of the nuclear strike, there's a nuclear watchdog chief, UN nuclear watchdog chief, who said there's a night and day difference between the nuclear capabilities before and after the strikes. It's a free beacon piece that ran just a little bit ago that gets into disputing that narrative. I'm curious. I am curious as to who it is that's leaking this stuff. They're going to have to tamp down on this. They're going to have to get this under control for sure. A couple of other things before we wrap up our third hour as well. We had a discussion about the Fantastic Four trailer and how bad it looked. I wasn't joking when I said that Rachel Zegler, it's not confirmed, but she is in talks to play Maria in The Sound of Music. Why? Do they hate us? Do they not learn their lesson? I don't think she sings that well. I've heard her sing and I don't think that she's a great voice. Sound of Music is iconic. It is an iconic film. Rodgers and Hammerstein. I think everybody had to watch that in elementary. Isn't that when you watched it? Or in school, junior high or something. Everybody had to watch that. Rachel Zegler is not Julie Andrews. Do not even think about messing with us unless it is someone who is on par with Julie Andrews. Otherwise, it's going to be a horrible experience for that person and the rest of us. I mean, it's an Austrian story. You know? It's like saying we're going to tell Pocahontas and we're going to have Paris Hilton stars Pocahontas. You know what I mean? It's like an Austrian story. It has to do with... And I don't... Is Rachel Zegler the only actor who can poorly play other characters? I don't understand it. What is this obsession with trying to make her a thing? It's not going to happen. And she's not a great voice either. I could understand it if she were a great voice and she could... play this character convincingly and everyone would forget about this stupid stuff that she said in the past and they would be like oh my gosh the voice makes up for it you know I get but she's no no why would you have why would you no that doesn't make any sense at all to have her play Julie Andrews's role as Maria von Trapp in The Sound of Music that's now again it's just discussions But still, you know what that means. If they're already leaking out that it's discussions, there's probably a good chance it might already be dry on the contract. I mean, it sounds like it might be for a film, right? And on a in a play, maybe a stage production, maybe, but not in a film. Let's not do this to everybody for the love of all things holy. We've already endured enough with her. She was like they marketed her as being the pretty one in Snow White. Imagine you're facing off against Gal Gadot in Snow White and she's supposed to pretend to be the ugly one. Oh, my gosh.
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I think we should choose the motto, make NATO great again. I would like to extend my gratitude to President Donald Trump, because without his engagement, I can imagine that we would discuss probably the level of 2.5%. With no clear outcome and positive outcome, probably those discussions will lead to nothing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I was told that Trump was ruining NATO and that he was a Russian stooge. We were all told that. That's what we heard.
SPEAKER 14 :
They were laughing at him on the world stage.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. We heard this repeatedly over and over again and that he was going to end NATO, et cetera, et cetera. I don't know how many times you heard this. Now it looks like these countries are increasing their own. They're spending a percentage of their GDP on their own defenses. So they're boosting their defenses and not relying constantly again on the United States to do it for them, which was finally acknowledged, I think, in actual blatant terms that the United States has been picking up so much slack. In fact, we didn't replay this for so long about this. And it's been good to see this. In fact, I hear somebody 30. This is literally what they said. This is the secretary general of NATO. Finally, it's been acknowledged. Listen.
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For too long, one ally, the United States, carried too much of the burden of that commitment. And that changes today. President Trump, dear Donald, you made this change possible. Your leadership on this has already produced one trillion dollars in extra spending from European allies since 2016. And the decisions today will produce trillions more for our common defense to make us stronger and fairer by equalizing spending between America and America's allies.
SPEAKER 13 :
Finally, I'm happy that this has been acknowledged. It's been a long time coming. Do you remember in POTUS's first term when he went and he got into a fight with Angela Merkel about Germany increasing just to meet the bare minimum requirements for NATO that had not been enforced up to that point? Just please spend towards your own defense. Germany had, ugh, they hemmed and hawed. They dragged their feet. Angela Merkel was very upset that this was being asked of her. She faced off against POTUS. That's where that famous, that's where that famous, A photo came where he's sitting at the table and she's leaning across the desk and he's got his arms folded. He's just glaring at her. That's where that came from. So now now everyone is is stepping up to do their part finally. So where is all the left after all the years of, oh, NATO is going away. Oh, he's literally Hitler. He's getting rid of NATO. We heard that over and over again. Where are they at now? Are they are they congratulating our nation on achieving this, on having our NATO allies actually finally step up and meet the minimum requirements of percentage of GDP for spending on their own defenses? Because I haven't seen that. I see people trying to leak and undermine while NATO is underway. I see people with, you know, gutless, baseless narratives. We're going to follow that. In the meantime, today in Stupidity, Cain.
SPEAKER 14 :
Speaking of those narratives, not only the New York Times, but CNN named. This is Erin Burnett of CNN. Cut 11, Juan. She says that there's a friendliness to the Iranians when they chant death to America. Listen to this.
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I remember, Dan, at one point being in Tehran years ago, and they're chanting death to America all around me, even as I say, oh, I'm an American reporting for CNN, and they were happy to speak to me. So those two sort of jarring realities of the chant, and yet the friendliness have existed.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, the chant and the friendliness of the Iranians. What was that chant again?
SPEAKER 13 :
Death to America.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, there it is. The friendliness of that chant.
SPEAKER 13 :
Death to America. Like, I mean, you know, psych. Mostly peaceful. Folks, that does it for us today. Find us over on Substack, Chapter and Verse, YouTube, Facebook. Like and subscribe. I'll be back with you tomorrow.

How will Zoran Mamdani's surprising win in the NYC Democrat primary impact the political landscape? Mike Gallagher dives deep into this political earthquake, discussing the national repercussions and the future for moderate Democrats. From the perspectives of key political figures to the debates over immigration and open borders, explore if this shift represents a bold new chapter for the Republican Party on a national scale.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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It's a strange feeling to mourn the city of New York after their decision to make the radical pro-intifada, anti-Semite, the Democrat nominee for mayor. We'll see what happens. But also know that this is a huge, huge win for the Republican Party nationally. This radical Mamdani won the New York City Democrat primary. They're calling it a political bombshell. And we'll spend time on it today, but I will tell you that a lot of the smart analysts seem to acknowledge that the Democrats have a fascinating dilemma on their hands. Moderate Democrats, it just doesn't work for them. So they're doubling down on radicalism, going as hard left as they can, because that works in cities like New York. And... That bodes well for normal Americans in races in the rest of the country, I think. Somebody told me, Mike, check out what happened in San Antonio a couple weeks ago. And honestly, I don't know. I'm pretty well plugged in. I mean, we could look it up, but I'd rather have you tell me. What happened in San Antonio? Who did they elect a couple of weeks ago? 1-800-655-MIKE. Look, a lot of breaking news today. A leaked report that seemed to suggest that the military strikes on the Iranian nuclear sites weren't really all that effective. That has now been pretty quickly debunked, I think. We'll give you an update on that because even the Iranian officials are saying there was massive devastation and destruction. But who knows if they're telling the truth. We know the ceasefire seems to be holding, thank goodness. Evidently, Trump's anger yesterday saved the day. We'll see what happens there. Can someone quickly tell me, though, and again, Tracy can look it up, but somebody texted me as I came into the Relief Factor studios a couple of minutes ago. What happened in New York just happened to San Antonio a couple of weeks ago. What is that? Who won in San Antonio? Because I honestly don't know, but I'd like to find out. 1-800-655-MIKE. If you know what happened in a San Antonio election, bring us up to date. Look, if San Antonio is going hard left, hard radical, stone cold anti-Semite, Israel-hating, America-hating leftists? Perhaps? Just perhaps? That's the formula that Democrats think they need to embrace going forward. Look, there's a lot of... There's a lot of... tears being shed for what is about to happen to New York City if this guy winds up becoming the mayor. And he very well could. He very well could, which is beyond dreadful. It's actually sickening. But again, nationally, you've got to wonder, what does this look like for the rest of the party? Line one, here's Jim in San Antonio. Let's go right to San Antonio. Teresa, let me have line one, please. Ten minutes past the hour. Let me get Jim here on the line, and we'll find out. Let me get... Let's go. 800-655-MIKE. I want to get to Jim. I know you got it. Come on. Come on. Come on. I need line one. I need line one. I need line one. I guess she's not hearing me. The old talkback isn't working again for her, Eric. Oh, it's going to be a day. Going to be a day. Here he is, Jim in San Antonio. Sorry for the delay. How are you doing, Jim? Just fine.
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We are a blue city, and her name is Gina Ortiz-Jones, and the Ortiz supposedly just came down. a part of her name within a year. Really? She was appointed through the Biden administration as the Secretary of the Air Force, which she only stayed 18 months, and she could never pass a budget, and so she left early. And she hasn't even been living in San Antonio, and she kind of parachuted in probably in the last few years.
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What's her ideology like, Jim? Is she like this lunatic in New York? Oh.
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Close, but probably not as bad. Not as bad. There's a mass exodus even in San Antonio. Really? People are moving to surrounding communities. Really? Yeah, she's going to do. Of course, we've had a Democratic mayor probably for the last 10 terms. Right, right. And a lot of it's just by virtue of people. We only have 11% to 12% turnout, and when you have that kind of turnout, This is what you get.
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Well, I guess so. And again, it speaks to nationally what Democrats have to decide what they're going to do. Because, look, they have to say perhaps moderate Democrats just don't work. Maybe it's not going to work. Maybe we need to go as far left as possible. And I just wonder... If it works in New York, if it works in San Antonio, is it going to work in your city? I mean, there's going to be a mass exodus in New York. There's no question. There's no doubt. I've already heard from people late last night who said, I'm done. I'm out. I talked to one person who lived there their whole life. They're out. They're coming to Florida. And this is probably a mixed bag for states like Texas and the Carolinas and Florida, Oklahoma. where New Yorkers are going to flee because of the catastrophe that this guy is going to be. But look, they're going to bring a lot of their Democrat voting policies with them. One of the smartest takes of this... disaster in New York with this socialist Mamdani winning the Democrat nomination came from Stephen Miller. Gosh, this guy is so smart. And he's got so many good takes. And it proves what we've been saying over and over and over again. Mass open borders changes the electorate. And in so doing, that's the goal. That's the whole plan. Here's what Stephen Miller posted, and this is such a brilliant point, and we've got to get to Iran, we've got a lot of stuff to cover here. But Stephen Miller wrote last night, the commentary about New York City Democrats nominating an anarchist socialist for mayor omits one important point. how unchecked migration fundamentally remade the New York City electorate. Democrats change politics by changing voters. That's how you turn a city that once defined U.S. dominance into what it is now. And that's always been the goal. And you've got to hand it to them. The Democrats knew what they were doing with open borders. Because you remake... the electorate. You install the kind of voters who would shockingly vote for an anarchist, radical, rabid socialist like this guy. And that's why they hate what Trump has done. That's why they despise Tom Holman. That's why they despise common sense border security. Because they're not going to be able to hijack elections if the open flow of illegals... Get stopped. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off, like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. 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Curtis Sliwa, my friend Curtis Sliwa, is the Republican nominee. I've got a theory about Curtis winning the election. It's going to come down to one of the silliest things. And I'm afraid to ask him about it because I'm afraid I'm going to insult him. But it has to do with his beret. And I could be completely out to lunch on this. Again, I've never asked him the question I want to ask him. We're trying to get him on the show maybe this week. But Curtis, of course, is the founder of the Heroic Guardian Angels. And they all wear red berets. And Curtis, I'm convinced, goes to sleep with his red beret on his head. And I've got a theory that he may hate. If he ditched the beret, he'd win. If he lost the red beret... and the red silk jacket, his uniform that he wears everywhere. And I've walked with him in the streets of New York. Of course, he's instantly recognizable with the beret. And I don't know if that's the... I'm sure he's very proud of the history of the Guardian Angels. I'm not sure people want to pull the lever for the guy with the red beret. Lose the beret represent what a law and order guy you are and how you'll bring common sense... conservatism to a city that's in desperate need of it, you'll win. But you've got to lose the beret. And I'm a guy that has always said, I think there ought to be lifetime movies, there ought to be movies made, books written about this guy's life. The mob tried to kill him. You ought to hear the story about him getting shot in the back of a taxi cab by the mafia. I think they pumped five or six bullets into him. And he lived to tell the tale. Great story. We'll get Curtis on the show. Let's see if I'll have the guts to ask him about the beret. We'll also talk to Arthur Idalla, our friend, the legal eagle, out of AM 970, The Answer, in New York City. I've got a big announcement for Mike Lindell and MyPillow. 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No, not at all. You sound great. You have my deepest sympathies over the Democrat primary last night.
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Mike Gallagher.
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Last night on CNN, my friend Arthur Idalla was on a panel and delivered some real cold, hard truths to that panel.
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I want to ask you a question. What is your evidence that Mamdani would return New York City to the 1970s hellhole Times Square?
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What is your evidence? It's very simple. So he wants to raise taxes on people who make the most money. What eventually is going to happen is you're going to lose that tax base. Once you lose that tax base, our bonds will get degraded. Now the city, the city budget will not be substantial enough. to subsidize not only the cops, but the fire department, the sanitation department. Once you start losing Wall Street and people who pay $11,000, $12,000 a month to live on the Upper East Side, you're done. You're done. And you go back to the 70s when Gerald Ford said New York dropped dead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, but hold on, hold on, Arthur. Arthur making Joy Reid look pretty dumb, but in fairness, that's not really a high bar. Let's welcome back to the show our friend, one of the most high-profile and successful New York trial attorneys, the great Arthur Idalla. You know, that's not really a heavy lift, I mean, but you were right.
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You were right. Let me... Mike, before we even talk about New York, I go on that CNN panel, and I enjoy it. I have no problem telling you I enjoy it. I'm kind of like the moderate there, and everyone's always very nice. But I've been on with dozens of people now, but Joy Reid is on a whole other level. In the segment before that, she was basically supporting Iran. And I'm going to tell you how the sausage is made. When we went off air, not me, but one of the other guests, I believe he called her bonkers. I think he said, Joy, I mean, the stuff you're saying is bonkers. Because she's like, how can we bomb a sovereign nation that has never attacked America? He goes, what do you mean? Over the last 30 years, they've killed 170 Americans. I mean, he had all the staff. It was crazy. So then when they say, I mean, she's clearly a Mamdani guy, person, I should say. And what I said is accurate. You know, it's people discount the money. And I did my senior thesis in college about the fiscal crisis and about the Board of Estimate here in the city of New York. and how close we were to going bankrupt. And they had to form a special charter revision committee to, to write the ship. So a guy named Felix Royalton saved the city of New York with his mathematics. You get a 33 year old young man. I don't care what his background is. I don't care what his nationality is. You get a 33 year old young person who has never run anything. I believe his staff is five or six people. He's been an assemblyman for three years. He's never run anything. Now, he's got very prestigious parents and he has a very good upbringing. But you're going to put him in charge of New York City's billions and billions of dollars of budget. You're going to put him in charge of all these agencies, our safety, our tourism, our education. You know, he's just and the things that he's saying that he would do, a mayor doesn't have control over. So, you know, he wants to raise the minimum wage. He doesn't have the power to do that. The state legislature has to do that. He wants to freeze taxes. He has a very limited ability to, I'm sorry, freeze.
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Yeah, but you're listing the things he can't do. What about the things he can do? And that's what terrifies a lot of normal people who can't believe that the Democrat voters did what they did last night.
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So my phone has been blowing up with people like us. Here's, you know, you talked about in one of your commercials about your age. People who were out yesterday in 100-degree weather campaigning vigorously for Mom Donnie, they do not remember pre-Rudy Giuliani New York City. My office in Manhattan is right next to Bryant Park. People go there in the afternoon and watch movies and have a cocktail. In 1989, if you walked through Bryant Park, you weren't coming out without getting robbed, beat up, terrorized, assaulted in some way. They forget what Times Square was like with all the pornography and the crack and the knives and the scariness. These kids, they don't know that. So that's the direction, you know, this city would be going in under Imam Dhani. Unless, unless he won, he was smart enough to hire a great police commissioner. As much as you want to brag on de Blasio, he did have Bill Bratton as his police commissioner.
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Yeah, but this guy wants to, but this guy wants to, but he wants to defund the police. I know, I know. He wants to replace... I'm terrified. Look, Arthur, I heard somebody allege that he wanted to actually remove the police from high-crime neighborhoods in New York. I thought, that's not possible. That can't be. I saw it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears. He said it in an interview. He wants to remove police because too many people get arrested in high-crime neighborhoods and they get persecuted because they're people of color. He wants to replace the cops with social workers. Every bit of the rabid, crazy, radical agenda that you imagine, you dream up, he believes in. He thinks these things. I know.
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Before I lose you, Mike, let me give you a little breaking news. I spoke to Andrew Cuomo this morning at length. Okay. I spoke to Eric Adams' campaign manager. I missed Eric Adams' call. He called me as well. Right. The bottom line is they both understand that one of them needs to be the next mayor. They both believe that they should be the next mayor if the polling shows that one of them—it's all out to beat Mamdani. Now, you've got Curtis Lee running as a Republican. That's a problem because he's going to draw votes from normal people as well. Somehow or another, the smartest New Yorkers have to get together and say, this is the one guy who can beat Mamdani. Whether it's Sliwa on the Republican line, whether it's Eric Adams as the incumbent on the independent line, whether it's Cuomo on an independent line, but whoever is the most likely to beat Mamdani has to be the one person. Everyone coalesces around and run against, and because this kid can't be the mayor of the city of New York, we would be in for a world of hurt.
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You know, I think about a guy that I've known over the years, John Katsimatidis, who is this— I was going to mention his name.
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I was going to mention his name. He's got to be a real kingmaker here and say, look, the polls show that Cuomo's best to beat Mamdani, or Eric is best to beat Mamdani, and the other guy has to endorse whoever is leading in the polls.
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And John's a high-profile Republican and, of course, a broadcaster. He owns WABC and, of course, he appears on AM 970, The Answer, every night. But he also owns the Gristini's supermarket chain. One of the agenda items for this lunatic is to funnel funds, to confiscate funds from corporate grocery stores to fund city-owned grocery stores so that there's no profit on groceries. Now, that'll put Gristiti's out of business. And I believe I saw an interview, I think, with John a few weeks ago. He said, if this happens, we'll pull Gristiti's out of the city. We'll have to.
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We'll have to. That's what I was talking about with Joy Reid last time on CNN. So you get a billionaire like John Katsimatidis who says, I'm going to pull this out. I'm going to pull that out. My primary reason is no longer going to be in New York City. I'm going to move out to my house in Quag in the Hamptons. That's it. That's the domino effect and everything starts falling. So, you know, we need, as New Yorkers who are educated, who are mature, who know what history has held for this city and how bad it could be. That's the problem. The young people don't know about how bad the subways was, the graffiti, the grime. So those like the John Katsimatidis of the world have to come together and say, look, guys, all three of you can't run. Slewa, Cuomo, and Eric, we got to pick one, and that's our guy.
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Yes, yes.
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Yes.
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Really? Yes, 100%.
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Yep. He loves this city. You know, people make a video, oh, he lives in Westchester. He loves it. Come on, the kid grew up in Queens. He loves this city. He does not want Mamdani to be the mayor. He knows he got caught in this. I mean, look, 8% of the people voted. Eight. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. This was not like a big, overwhelming turnout here. So what he said is, let's wait a week or two. Let's see what the polling says. If the polling says I'm the guy, then I'm in. And if the polling says I'm not the guy, then I'm not going to be. I'm not going to just run to be the spoiler.
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60 seconds left. What's your prediction, Swami? Look into your crystal ball. What do you think these three men will do?
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I would like to think that they all do. I think Curtis stays on the Republican line no matter what.
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He's not going anywhere, I don't think.
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Right, but I'm afraid he could wind up playing the spoiler, even if Eric stepped out and supported Andrew or Andrew stepped out and supported. I don't know if there's enough there to have the 30% that Curtis will get 30% of the vote. Now there's the other 70%. I don't know if there's enough in there to kill these progressives who don't know what they're in store for. And by the way, taking cops out of the worst neighborhoods, 97% of the people in those worst neighborhoods are great people. It's 3% who are total jerks. And those 97%, they want the cops in those neighborhoods to protect them from the 3% of the jerks.
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Right. Well, you mentioned— I don't know.
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It was not a good day to wake up.
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No, I went to bed with my – I was heart sick. Although, frankly, nationally, this is great news for the Republicans. This is all great because they're going to hang – I agree. They're going to hang this guy around the neck of the Democrat Party for the next 10 years. I agree. They did a lot of damage to themselves because this is the direction that the Democrats are going in, whether anybody wants to admit it or not. Look, you mentioned the love of Andrew Cuomo that he has for New York, and I've known Curtis for years. Curtis truly loves New York. Interestingly enough – So interestingly enough, it may take that love and passion for this great city for these guys to say, I'm not going to run. I'm going to throw in the towel. We're going to coalesce behind one person. But I don't know if they can do it or not. Arthur Idalla, I was so anxious to talk to you today. It's been too long. Keep fighting the good fight. Congratulations on your recent legal victories. You've got a bunch of great stuff going there. This is the guy you turn to when you're in trouble. The one and only Arthur Idalla. And Joy Reid. Look, even she needs to reach out to you if she ever gets into any legal trouble. You'll help her. Thanks, Arthur. Keep fighting the good fight. Great seeing you. Thanks so much, Mike. You too. Back at you. 800-655-MIKE. Wow. What a turn of events. They're calling it a political shocker, a bombshell. We'll see what you think coming up.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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The country has sort of a love-hate relationship with New York City. Every movie, every TV show always focuses on Manhattan, the skyline. It's, of course, considered... one of America's great cities. Doesn't feel so great today, does it? And this love-hate relationship is probably exemplified by a post from a pretty popular social media influencer, Cat Turd. Ever follow Cat Turd? He's at Cat Turd 2. Sorry for the rather crude handle. But he's got a big following. And he posted the cover of today's New York Post, which has a picture of this radical socialist, Zoran Mamdani, winning the Democrat primary. Big smiling face at his victory party last night. And the big banner headline says, NYC SOS. Who will save the city? after the radical socialist batters Cuomo in the Democrat mayoral primary, and Catterd wrote, I actually think this is funny. I can't stand the snobs in New York City. Watching them get exactly what they deserve for voting for this clown for the next four years will be hilarious. I'll bet a lot of people are feeling that way in America. Now, not necessarily in New York, but And I have friends and family there. They're in a state of shock. But the truth of the matter is, New York City was already suffering from tax revenue losses due to wild leftist policies that drove people out and into red states. I mean, take me for example. I thought 51% was as high as I could go in paying taxes. And that reflects city, state, and federal taxes. And I moved to New York. I mean, moved out of New York and moved to Florida. And got an instant pay raise. It was just economic common sense. Well, this is going to get even worse now. And it's going to lead, perhaps, New York State to lose congressional seats, like has happened in California. So it's awful for New York, but it's really great for the rest of the country because they're going to make, Republicans now will make, Zoran Mamdani the face of today's Democrat Party. And look, for young progressives, that's just what they want. That's who they want. So guess what? That's what you're going to get. So be ready for it all. On another bigger scale, I saw Ted Cruz earlier today on Fox News confirming that the Iranian nuclear strike was a spectacular success, despite CNN reporting to the contrary. You heard about that, right? There was supposedly a leak, and some unnamed sources said that the military strikes weren't really all that effective. They were damaged, but it wasn't all that bad. They're going to be okay. Operation Midnight Hammer wasn't all that successful. And, of course, the White House immediately denied that. The president, Caroline Leavitt, prominent people saying, no, that's not true. It's going to be years before they could get their nuclear program started up again. But Mark Wayne Mullen was on last night on CNN. And just had a question that I think reflects the way so many of us feel. Why don't Democrats and Trump haters want us to win? Why do they continually root against the United States? He posed that question to Caitlin Collins last night. I thought this was pretty perfect.
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You heard the majority leader there saying he has not seen intelligence to confirm that Iran's nuclear program was obliterated. Have you seen any of that?
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Actually, that isn't exactly what he said. He said you need to ask the question to Tom Cotton, who sits on Intel. I'll tell you the reports that we've received. is that this was a complete success. I mean, you think about this, Caitlin, and I don't understand why this is such a hard thing for CNN or other people to celebrate the victory that the United States just achieved. We had 30 Tomahawk missiles. We had 14 30,000-pound bombs. delivered on target and on time. We had no detection, no boots on the ground, complete mission success with Midnight Hammer. And this is a victory that we should celebrate for the simple fact, Caitlin, that the world is safer because Iran cannot develop their nuclear weapon. And keep in mind, this is a country that is the number one sponsor of terror around the world. So this should be something that we're celebrating, not something we're trying to bring some division between us on.
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He's right. Why can't even CNN sell it? I guess it's just the tribal nature of politics. And everybody goes to their side of the their side of the ring. And they just take pot shots. And CNN was very proud to trumpet what they said was a failed mission in Iran. Here was Ted Cruz last night on Fox News Channel.
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It's not surprising that that CNN is attacking the Trump White House. They've done that every day of his presidency. They've done that every day since the first time he became president in 2017. If you look at the results of this attack, they were nothing, nothing sort of spectacular. We saw seven B-2 bombers fly across the world, execute, deliver 14 bunker buster, 30,000 pound bombs and devastate three Iranian nuclear weapons facilities and then fly back. And there was not a single American casualty. You know, I have to commend, first of all, the American servicemen and women that carried out the attack. But the president and his team executed it to perfection. And it was devastatingly effective in terms of degrading Iran's capability. It shouldn't surprise anyone that CNN is throwing rocks from the sidelines.
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Senator Ted Cruz with Jesse Waters last night on Fox News. And back to the kookiness of today's Democrat Party. The other day I said on this show, I wish the left would come right out and just say, you're okay with the Iranians having nukes. Just come out and say it. Because none of them had the guts to admit that until last night on CNN. I give you... The ex-MSNBC host, Joy Reid, on CNN last night as a guest.
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which you don't need for a civilian nuclear energy program, which, by the way, they don't need a civilian nuclear energy program anyway.
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How arrogant to tell them what they need. They have been two weeks away since Bibi Netanyahu said it in 96. He said it to George W. Bush. He said it to Joe Biden. He said it to Barack Obama. He's been saying they've been two weeks away since 1996. Wait a minute, though.
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Who are we to tell Iran they don't need a civilian nuclear energy program, she said during the crosstalk. The arrogance of that. We're arrogant. It's arrogance for President Trump to fulfill a promise to make sure that the mullahs don't get their hands in creating a nuclear weapon so they could obliterate Israel. Wow. So sometimes, once in a while, they say the quiet part out loud. Welcome in. We're in the Relief Factor studios for a Breaking News Wednesday. A little bit later this hour, I want to repeat a segment that we had about... It really touched a nerve. It's a personal story, but I think it talks a little... We'll get a little break for a few minutes over politics and New York City and Iran and talk a little bit about the power of redemption or... The inability to hold somebody accountable. I'm a little bit in the hot seat, but I'll share that segment with you coming up later this hour. I think you'll find it intriguing. I hope you do. Okay, let's dive into this. This is pretty fascinating because what do you do when your heart is heavy for a city you love because they actually did it and made this guy the nominee, but you know how beneficial this is going to be nationally to you? for common sense candidates and republicans look there's a very interesting dynamic at play here first of all look new york lost cause there's just no way around this new york couple of prominent comments i saw last night on social media new york city just voted for a guy who said he understands why 9-11 happened. Let that sink in. Another comment. Look, it took less than 25 years to go from 9-11, and that's personal for me. I was in the Empire State Building that morning, as you know, to electing a commie jihadi apologist. I mean, it really is mind-boggling. How'd you like to be Jewish? And live in New York right now and know how he feels about the Jews. Because he's a rank anti-Semite. His plans are so insane. He was asked, I did a little bit of research last night. He sat down with the New York Times a few weeks ago. This is great. Now this will maybe resonate more with New Yorkers who know about Bill de Blasio, right? The New York Times editorial board asked Zoran, the aspiring rapper, who is the best New York City mayor in your lifetime, Zoran?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, in your lifetime, he's been alive for, he's 33. I mean, he wasn't even alive for David Dinkins.
SPEAKER 10 :
But he answers for all time. He says, in my lifetime, and then in all lifetime, in his lifetime, Bill de Blasio. Great. That's his favorite. So, look, it's being described as a political earthquake for the Democrat Party. But it really is, Mark, because let's analyze this nationally. Let's talk about what this means for Dallas. Let's talk about what it means for Austin. Let's talk about what it means all over the country. These young, rabid radicals win. They energize young people. Yep. who get promised a bunch of free stuff. One of his, by the way, big promises is you won't have to pay to ride the bus anymore in New York City. Yeah, yeah, it's a good plan.
SPEAKER 12 :
How will that system survive?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, that'll go great. And incidentally, the subway stations, he wants to turn into homeless shelters.
SPEAKER 12 :
Aren't they already?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, but he wants to formalize it. He wants to actually take retail space and put the already, you know, sometimes violent homeless people down in the subways with everybody else. So all of this is a nightmare. There's going to be a mass exodus. John Katsimatidis, the big guy, you know, owns WABC Radio. But, you know, one of his fortunes comes from the Gristiti's supermarket chain. And John has said, look, this guy wins. We're moving all the Gristinis out of New York City. In a way, he has to because Mamdani's plan is to funnel profits from corporate grocery stores into city-run grocery stores. To compete against them.
SPEAKER 12 :
Lovely.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. And take the money, the profits from the John Katsimatidis of the world because you know how evil the billionaires are. We've got to tax the rich. But here's what's very interesting. If you look at the AOC wing of the party, they're going to be emboldened. They're going to say, look, moderate Democrats don't win. We can't compete. So what we got to do is double down, go big or go home. We've got to be just anti-Semitic, far-left, rabid, commie, socialist radicals. And that's the way we've got to take the Democrat Party.
SPEAKER 12 :
Because it worked in New York City. Go ahead and finish your sentence because it's going to be a big payoff.
SPEAKER 10 :
Apparently it worked in San Antonio a couple weeks ago, too. Now, this is working. So you know what? Let that keep happening. And let's take it all the way to the White House. In 2028, you make sure you run a Zoran Mamdani for president and see how that goes. It's New York, again, lost cause. They're a bunch of delusional nutcases. They're going to get what they deserve. But nationally, this is actually great for our side, Mark.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Everybody says, how can we shut Jasmine Crockett up? I want her talking every day, every day.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. And the analysts are saying they're calling this a political earthquake because the Democrats are going to have to say, well, you know what? Maybe the maybe the middle of the road, John Fetterman kind of Democrat doesn't work. And we got to we're going to go all in. And I think that's good for I really do. I think we're now going to hang Zoran Mamdani around the neck of the Democrat Party from now till the for the next 20 years. I mean, this is what this is the face. Isn't this the face of the Democrats now, Mark?
SPEAKER 12 :
It increasingly is. And the John Fetterman, Dean Phillips, remember the guy who ran for president for 10 minutes and got about 10 votes, said, hey, Democrats, great idea. Please, let's have an America-hating socialist as mayor of New York City. And as Donald Trump brings peace to the world, let's get him. Way to go, Democrats. And which led me to tweet, they're not all crazy. And it's true. They're not all crazy, but the crazy ones are enjoying success and clicks. And that could...
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, they're going to be emboldened, and that's okay. Stephen Miller had a great reaction, too. He said, fundamentally remade the New York City electorate. Democrats change politics by changing voters. That's how you turn a city that defined U.S. dominance into what it's going to become. And what a great point. He's right about that, Mark. This is the goal, always the goal with open borders. remake the electorate and you bring in the kind of lunatics that now very enthusiastically voted for this guy um and and who incidentally promised that if bb netanyahu ever stepped foot in new york as mayor he would have benjamin netanyahu arrested great he said he promised he would do that he would have but he would have bb arrested as a war criminal Shrieking at Tom Holman. That's such an interesting background. He's this privileged little snot-nosed punk who grew up in a multi-million dollar Upper East Side spread with his radical, rabid Columbia professor dad. And his and his entertainment, you know, movie mogul mom. She's the one who financed one of his stupid movies. I mean, this is a this is these these are these like trust fund babies that we see out protesting in the streets. He's it. You know, you see these blue haired kids with with the nose rings, you know, with the with the no kings. This is who that is. And now he could very well be the mayor of New York. Now, look, they're calling for some radical stuff to happen in New York because now you're basically going to have a Momdami. Yep. You're going to have Eric Adams. As an independent. As an independent. And Curtis Sliwa.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know who else may run as an independent?
SPEAKER 10 :
Who?
SPEAKER 12 :
The freshly defeated Andrew Cuomo, who floated a – because it wasn't close, but it wasn't a blowout. It was sufficiently wide a margin that he said, ring choice. And you and I were trading texts back the last night. I said, you know, it's not totally officially done yet. There may be further rounds. And then, of course, Cuomo then conceded. Okay, and so much for that. He may come in and – Which will guarantee the Mamdani win because you don't have to get 50%. It's not a runoff or anything. Whoever gets a plurality will win in November.
SPEAKER 10 :
One of the darkly humorous tweets I saw last night was, maybe it didn't work out so well for Cuomo to have killed all those people during the pandemic.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, there you are.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, maybe that came back to bite him in the butt. Anyway, we're going to see how it all plays out. We've got a lot of New York-centric guests today. We're going to talk to the great Arthur Idalla. If you didn't see him school that reprehensible Joy Reid last night on CNN... You're missing out. You should play that clip because he's saying, look, we're going to go back to the 70s when it was crackheads on every corner, crime running rampant. And she said, how do you know? And he just schooled her. The great Arthur Idalla is a legal eagle, a great defense attorney who incidentally represents Harvey Weinstein. And if you didn't pay attention a couple weeks ago.
SPEAKER 12 :
Everybody deserves a defense. And that defense kind of worked, by the way.
SPEAKER 10 :
It kind of worked. I mean, what do they have, like split verdict and all that? He didn't throw the book at them. But so we're going to talk to him. I'd love to talk to Dov Heikin. He's a longtime Jewish activist in New York City. He was a New York City assemblyman, friend of the show. And I just hurt for New York Jews right now. They've got to be thinking it's already been open season on us.
SPEAKER 12 :
And the conservative ones, I mean, the liberal Jews, if you're a liberal Jew, in many cases, the liberal part matters way more than the Jew part. The majority of Jews vote Democrat. There are a bunch of Jews voted for this guy. I guarantee you the younger ones.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I once asked the great Dennis Prager, who we continue to pray for during his recovery. But Dennis told me, because I said, why do so many Jews vote Democrat? He said, it's the secular Jews. Remember something. It's Jews who never go to temple. It's Jews who really don't lean into the faith at all of Judaism. That's the problem that we have.
SPEAKER 12 :
There must be a lot of them.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, look, hey, here we go again. The Eminem Experience. Subscribe to the Mike Gallagher Show podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us. Have a great day. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.

In this episode of Mobile Estate Planning, Michael Bailey addresses common misconceptions his clients have about estate planning. Instead of automating all your financial management needs, Michael highlights the importance of understanding the different assets, including real estate, and how this information affects the planning process. He explains the intricacies of managing multiple properties and why setting up a trust could streamline or simplify estate management. Listeners are guided through the complexities of probate, especially when properties are spread across different states. Michael shares practical examples and explains the advantages of trusts in avoiding probate chaos. Each situation is unique, and knowing whether a simple will or a well-designed trust can help protect your family's future is paramount. Additionally, Michael debunks myths around beneficiary designations. Whether you own multiple assets, have joint accounts, or possess retirement accounts with specified beneficiaries, understanding these elements can transform your estate planning process. He encourages listeners to explore strategies that may save money and avoid complicating their estate delivery.
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welcome to mobile estate planning with your host michael bailey over a decade ago attorney michael bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end-of-life planning michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan that's why he became the mobile estate planner He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX, Ask the Experts, presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM. Also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. And all of that so that we can do something besides just leave our families alone. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. So let's talk about estate planning. And I've had lots of people who are like, oh, well, there's this kind of idea that somehow if they have me do their estate plan, that I will obtain magical mind reading powers for them. I will now know everything about all of the assets they've ever had and ever will have and that i will keep track of all of them because that's apparently what i'm supposed to do i i did not know this i wasn't in the job description and it's certainly not true but uh you know so when i when i send out uh my questionnaire to people when you know i first meet i'm going to meet with them i'll send out a an intake worksheet where I ask about what their assets are and how much they're worth and who they want to leave stuff to and who they want to put in charge and name, address and phone number of all those type of things. And so I'm gathering information. And I think some people think that because I've asked for that information, that it's all going to go into the estate plan and then it will live there and then I will keep track of all the rest of it forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever. Well, that's just not true. If I find out that somebody has, mostly I'm asking for what kind of different assets do we have and how much are they worth? Because those can inform what we're going to do. If somebody says, oh, well, I have my house here. I have a quarter interest in the family farm in Kansas from when grandpa and grandma died. and I own a 10th interest in the family lake cabin in Michigan, then that helps me understand, oh, gee, we have property in multiple states, so we probably ought to do something about the property in multiple states. We could have the property that's in those multiple states going to different, if we just do a will, then my clients will need to go through probate in every single one of those states. The remain probate is done in the state where you live, in the county where you live when you die. But any other state or jurisdiction where you have, so any state, not necessarily jurisdiction. So if you have multiple properties in Colorado, you can do probate just in the one county in Colorado. But if you have real estate property in different states, then in the other state, you would need to apply for what is called ancillary probate. to address that real estate in the other state. So that's just kind of how that goes. And so, you know, for somebody who has multiple properties and or maybe they're real estate investors and they are, you know, we actually have my My brother-in-law, his parents, he used to work for one of the big window manufacturing supplier companies. And so he got moved around the country. So he lived in Washington for a while, and then he got moved out to Missouri, and then he moved to Arizona, and then he moved to Michigan, and then to Kentucky, and then retired in Utah. Well, at all these stops, they bought a house and they never sold the houses. They've rented them now. So now they have like five, six, seven rentals. And so they've got seven different rental properties. It's what funds their retirement because they've got seven different rental properties with rental income coming in, which is great for them. But it means that... If they were to pass away, then their kids would have to go through probate in all of those different states. And that may not be what they're hoping to do. So instead, we look at trying to create a trust. We say, okay, well, we'll put the assets inside of the trust. And then when someone dies, the trust does not die with you, but rather the trust continues to exist because it can be its own separate entity. And then whoever takes over that trust as a successor trustee, the trustee is the person who's in charge of a trust, then the successor trustee has authority and the ability to take those assets and to distribute them out to the named beneficiaries of the trust. And in doing so, they don't necessarily need to go through the probate process for every single state because it's all consolidated in one trust and all can be administered under that trust. So it makes life a little bit easier. It makes life a little bit simpler. And then whoever, you know, kids or loved ones or whoever's left over doesn't have to go through all of go through probate and all of the different states. It's mostly the same, but it's always a little bit and slightly different throughout these various different states. And so, you know, people may not want to figure out all of the different variations. Well, that's, you know, if you have property in multiple states, it's one of the things that may trigger us wanting to look at a trust. But that's not necessarily the only thing. But it helps inform that decision, helps us make that intelligent decision of what's the best way to do this, what's the way that would work best for you to set this up. So, you know, whether it's a will or a trust or some other manner of doing things. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM. Also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, that's 720-394-6887. So, you know, just because people tell me that they've got a whole bunch of different properties doesn't mean I'm not going to list them all out in the will. I'm not going to list them all out in the trust. And say, well, gee, now every time that you change a property, you need to come back to me and you need to update these documents so that all the assets are all up to date. That would be great for me. Every time somebody makes a change in an asset, they have to come to me to change their estate plan. I'd be like, cool, I've got to charge you extra for that, but here we go. So great for me, maybe not so great for you. But so, you know, real estate, multiple states, real estate that's owned in different ways. There's just one of those is one of the piece of the puzzle that I need to know and understand so that we can figure out what works for you. Now, let's say that you're you bring me your look at your assets and you have one house. And then you've got a bank account and checking account, savings account. And you've got most of your money is all in IRAs and 401ks. Okay, that makes sense. You put your money into those retirement vehicles. Makes perfect sense. And so I've had clients come to me like, oh, you know, do we need to trust? And I said, well, let's talk about that, shall we? This particular, you know, so your IRAs and your 401ks, they have beneficiary designations on them. If they have beneficiary designations on them, that means they will pass outside of your will, outside of your trust, and don't need to go through probate because the beneficiary designation will transfer all of the ownership of that, or they'll transfer all the assets of that IRA or 401k to your named beneficiaries. So you want to make sure that the beneficiaries named are correct. You know, is it your spouse first and then your children after that or is there a life insurance policy that's set up to go to an ex-spouse because that happens a lot in divorce where you're maybe you're paying alimony or something like that and then there's or child support and then you're like well what if I die well you know the courts can order you to maintain a life insurance policy and That life insurance policy can have the designated beneficiary of the ex-spouse. And so if you die, then it pays out to the ex-spouse. They've got their alimony and or child support that they can then use to support the child. Because if you die, it doesn't just eliminate the financial obligations you may have to a former spouse or to your children. So you set up your beneficiary designations where they're supposed to go. Are they supposed to go to... current spouse and then kids or if you don't have a current spouse just two kids if you don't have current spouse or kids somewhere else but anything that has a beneficiary designation that will pass that's kind of like the first yeah so that kind of the hierarchy of how things pass if you own something jointly with somebody when you die the joint owner becomes a sole owner beneficiary designations That's kind of the next level of you've got a beneficiary designated on your bank account or your investment account or your IRA or 401k of where it's supposed to go when you die, who's the named beneficiary. Then everything else that doesn't have a beneficiary designation or isn't jointly owned will pass according to what your will says. A trust only controls property that's owned by the trust. So if you have a trust, then the trust will go ahead and say what all of the property is supposed to be and distribute all the property that it owns. But the trust doesn't say what happens to property that's not owned by the trust. So if you create a trust and you put your house in there and you're like, but I'm not going to put... this other you know the portion of the family farm and then you die well the portion of the family farm where is it supposed to go well there's if there's no sort of designation on where it's supposed to go you know then we'll look at your okay well what does your will say well the will says uh will says put it in the trust and then distribute it according to the trust all right cool that's that's the language that we put in what's called a poor over will p-o-u-r not p-o-o-r Because we want it to pour over like a pitcher of water pouring over into glass, not to make you pour. We're not trying to make you pour. We're just trying to pour it over so that we know where it's going to go. But you want to be careful. And the pour over will is kind of the backup to the trust of if you didn't get things in the trust, what do we do about it? Those type of things is what we're looking at. So as we go through assets, we go through what we're trying to do. We go through how are we going to make this work. There's all of those different types of things that show up. And so those all inform what we're going to do with different assets and how we're going to set up an estate plan. But going back to my first example of you've got a house and then all your money is in IRA, 401ks. Someone's like, oh, well, do I need a trust? And I said, well, let's talk about that. Are you trying to preserve assets and not give them out to people all at once? Is there a reason why you wouldn't want to just transfer everything to your kids? People say, well, no, my kids are in their 40s or 50s, so they're financially responsible. They can handle it. I'm like, okay, makes sense. So then we look at how do we say, well, we've got beneficiary designations on those accounts. Then what's left to give away is your house and your bank accounts. Well, bank accounts, you can put a pay on death designation. So if you put a POD or pay on death designation, that'll transfer according to the pay on death designation. Again, that's similar to a beneficiary designation. And then that only thing left that might trigger the need to go through probate is the house. And if somebody doesn't want to if somebody is concerned about the house and how is the house going to pass and we just need to get it to the kids without needing to go through the probate process, then we say, OK, there is such thing in Colorado as a beneficiary deed. And a beneficiary deed is essentially a transfer on death deed. It's where you can name beneficiaries of your house. And so if you take if you create a beneficiary deed, you can put a beneficiary deed that says, okay, here's a beneficiary deed, and it's going to go from the person that has passed away to the kids, and we'll just split it up between the kids, and then the kids will be owners. Well, with a beneficiary deed, you can take, you prepare that, You get it signed, witnessed, notarized. You record it with the county before the current owner dies. And then upon death, you can go to the county with the death certificate and say, hey, this person has died. So ownership transfers from the deceased person to the named beneficiaries, the heirs. Sometimes you need a certificate. supplemental affidavit to tie the name on the death certificate to the name on the deed because they don't always match but that transfer happens at the county clerk and recorders level so just the county clerk and recorder will be like oh well you know we know that it's no longer the owner is no longer the deceased person but rather it's the named beneficiaries on the beneficiary deed okay cool and then the named beneficiaries on the beneficiary deed can probably go and sell the house or you know if they want to keep it they can keep it but if they want to sell it then they sell it and as part of the chain of title there's a beneficiary deed and then the proof of death showing that they're the three owners and then you can transfer ownership from the three kids that are owners to whomever you sell the house to and now everything has been transferred and everything like it's supposed to, and you just kind of move on. And a beneficiary deed, I charge $250 for a beneficiary deed. So if I wrote somebody a will, one of my will packages, plus a beneficiary deed, it would be $750. Well, my trust-based packages start, they're usually between $2,000 and $3,000. So depending on what you're, if you've got a whole bunch of assets that already have beneficiary designations, We don't necessarily need to set up a trust to avoid the probate process because we can do a couple of different things and save you some money. And a lot of times when I'm telling people this, they're like, oh, but is there a downside? I'm like, not really. If we're trying to avoid probate, there's just different ways of doing it. And, you know, sometimes it'd be like, well, you know, if you're going to move from this house, then the beneficiary deed is tied only to that house or that real estate. And you have to go to a different place for a different type of different. If you have a different house or different real estate, then you'd have to do a new beneficiary deed. But even then, we still got five moves before we hit the two thousand dollar mark with the trust. So yeah, and I'll be talking to people. I'm like, so basically, I'm trying to talk you into paying me less money, but still getting you the same benefit. And people seem to appreciate that, that I'm trying to talk them into paying me less money, but still getting them the same benefit. And you know, that makes perfect sense. But neither approach is the correct one for everybody. I mean, I've already got two approaches. So if there's different situations, whichever one would work best for you and you're most comfortable with makes sense. Some people, like me, for instance, I have a trust because I have properties in multiple states and I have children that are under the age of 18. so i want to hold on to things and give it to them over time instead of all at once because as much as i love my 13 year old if we both my wife and i died and there was a million dollar life insurance payout for him i don't think giving a 13 year old a million dollars and saying hey good luck would be fun yeah there's the uh old cartoon richie rich where he was you know teenage kid that was super rich that's great for cartoons not so good for law stuff So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560 AM. Also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, that's 720-394-6887. So because of that, we're not really able to just keep, you know, there's no one right way to do things. And even if you tell me what your assets are, it doesn't mean that I'm going to keep track of them all the time. Several years ago, I had a client where I had written a trust for her and she called me and she said, oh, well, I'm getting divorced. So if you could just tell me, you know, if you can just send me a list of everything that's in the trust and everything that, you know, what was in the trust. And so we can I can have that list. That would be great. And I'm like, so why don't keep track of that list? She's like, but you wrote the trust. I'm like, uh-huh, I did. That doesn't mean I keep track of all of the assets that were in the trust or that were put in the trust or that have been moved out of the trust. I even asked her, I'm like, so have you opened a new bank account or have you opened a new investment account? Have you moved houses? She's like, well, yeah, I've done all those things. I'm like, and how many times did you call me and let me know? And she says, well, none, but you're supposed to keep track of it. I'm like, how am I supposed to keep track of it exactly? Now, this was a person who didn't quite understand what my role was as an attorney, but I don't go in and then keep track of everybody's assets and everything like that. I mean, I don't even know how I'd go about doing that. I mean, I'd be like, hey, you know, call up Charles Schwab or call up... Fidelity and be like, hi, my name is Michael Bailey. Here's my, you know, a couple thousand clients that I have that I know have invested through you. Would you please just go ahead and send me all of the list of all of their assets so I can put it in my files? Now, Charles Schwab and Fidelity are going to be like, I'm sorry, we don't know who you are. You are not the owner. You are not listed here as being able to access things. So, no, we're not going to send you that. Okay, fine. Or there's not a secret society of financial transaction watchers that are like, ooh, we have this secret handshake that we let the attorneys in. Then we say, oh, well. We see that you wrote a will for Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Mr. and Mrs. Smith bought a new lawnmower. So now you have to know about the new lawnmower. Okay, cool. Well, they also opened a bank account at Farmers Bank as opposed to Farmer and Agriculture Bank. Okay, cool. There's not this, you know, hyper-vigilant oversight group or company that keeps track of all the financial institutions and all the financial transactions everywhere. There might be people who think that that's the case. Having learned about the NSA watching things from Edward Snowden, The government probably has a whole lot of information on things, but they also don't share it with just everybody or share it with, say, me, even though I'm an attorney. It's just not something that we do. So unless you've hired me to be your trustee, which is a service I don't offer, and hired me to keep track of everything, which again, service I don't offer, I'm not going to be the right one to be keeping track of all of your assets and what all of those assets are and how they change and, you know, turnover over time. I had a client or I had the sister of a client call me a week or two ago, let me know that my client had passed away. And that was very sad. I said, OK, so what are you? I said, I'm very sorry. How can I help you? They're like, well, you know, he told me that you would you would know all of his assets. So I know where to go get things. I'm like, well, he told you incorrectly. Because I don't keep track of all of those things. So when I write a trust for somebody, and I'd written a trust for this particular client, at the back of the trust there's a Schedule A, and it's kind of where we put what's in the trust. So if I write a deed, I'll put the deed in there, and all of those type of things. And so as we go through and do that, then we have a then I have a I have a record, there's a record of what I put in there. And then it's like, okay, as you put, so you talk to your financial institution, you put your assets inside of the trust, or you set up the trust as a beneficiary of your accounts. And I tell people, I'm like, on that Schedule A, then keep, you know, when you move something, write down what you move. So be like, oh, you know, first bank account, one, two, three, four. Fidelity account, five, six, seven, eight. So use that Schedule A as like a worksheet to keep track of what you put into the trust. Because then when you die, your successor trustee can go to that Schedule A and say, oh, look, what are these things? And now I know where to go looking for assets. Because as you put things into the trust or as you move things out of the trust, say you have a house at 123 Main Street, and then you move and your next house is at 456 Minor Street. Well, you want to keep track of that so that you kind of, since you're the trustee of your own trust and you're keeping track of what's in there for your successor trustees, you are then keeping that record so that you can make life easier on your successor trustee when you die. And if I offered services of being a successor trustee, I would totally do that for you. But I don't, and I'm not anybody's successor trustee. Well, my parents, I am, but that's because I'm their son, not because I'm an attorney. I may have gotten picked to do it because I'm an attorney that does this, but still. But as so so keeping track of assets and what's where isn't necessarily part of creating an estate plan or creating the or a trust or what's part of my responsibility as your trustee. Instead, I create the estate plan. If you would like me to help get assets in the trust, then I do that. I charge extra for that. But then I don't necessarily keep track of everything. If you call me and you say, oh, hey, I bought a new house and I bought it personally. Can you put it in the trust for me? I'll be like, sure, I can do that. I can send me a copy of the deed and we can transfer ownership. So there's definitely things that I can do with that, but I'm not actively keeping track of everything for you, despite what you may want me to do. So if you let me know information, I'll use it. But it doesn't mean that just because you told me about something that I'm never, ever going to do anything ever again. So I see that my time is out. So I will let you go. Stay tuned for John Rush and Rush to Reason coming up next. And I'll be back next week. Thanks and bye.
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Mobile estate planning with Michael Bailey will return to ATX next Wednesday at 2.30 here on KLZ 560, AM 560, FM 100.7, and online at klzradio.com.
Join host John Rush and Richard Battle in a riveting discussion about the critical role questioning plays in society. This episode highlights how asking 'why' can be both a privilege and a catalyst for change. They analyze historical instances like World War II and the evolution of infrastructure in the US, drawing direct lines to the freedoms we enjoy today. With the backdrop of current events and political concerns, such as the Douglas County home rule debate, Rush and Battle dissect the necessity of informed leadership and the power citizens hold. Tune in to understand how freedom to think, question, and innovate continues to shape the future.
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This is Rush to Reason.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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And we are back, hour two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining me now. Why? A question only free people may ask. How are you, Richard?
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John, we're doing great, and I have to... I'll interdict here and say I appreciate this opportunity to be with you. It is the 200th time I've had this privilege, and we just really appreciate the opportunity to share with your audience.
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Well, I have enjoyed it thoroughly. I look forward to it. I learned something from you on a weekly basis and wouldn't have it any other way, Richard, so I appreciate you as well.
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And that's why we get to the question why today.
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Only free people can ask that.
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Well, exactly. One day I was thinking how dangerous that can be sometimes. And so it all of a sudden struck me about how the why question that little kids ask, that's the first question they ask. Why? And people want to know. But only free people can ask that question. And when you think about that, it can change your perspective and help us to appreciate the ability to do it here. and understand what happens in countries where they can't do that. And so I thought it'd be worth talking about.
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I talked a little bit about this yesterday in response to things that had gone on with Iran and what – Iran, however you want to say it. I think it's Iran is how you're supposed to say it. It's an E, not an I, but Iran. And reality is, Richard, and this is the part that I think – a lot of Americans, even a lot of conservatives, and especially the press, get completely wrong. We all get concerned about the war between Israel and them, and what was going on, and what we did to end it, and so on and so forth. But what they forget about is there are millions upon millions of people in that country, to your point, Richard, that can't ask this question because they're not free.
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That's exactly correct. And so that's That's why I think it's so important that we appreciate it and discuss it and make people understand the difference in that situation. We have entitled people in this country now who, when they put forth political arguments, they can't believe it when people ask them why they believe the way they do, and they have to justify their beliefs. They expect people just to listen and accept what they say without that rationale.
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No, there's a dialogue that goes back and forth, and to your point, only in America where we're free can you have that dialogue back and forth, even with those quote-unquote – and I have to be careful how I say this – are quote-unquote leaders, because the one thing I think even at times we get – I know I get caught up in this sometimes, Richard, myself. I look at Donald Trump. He is the quote-unquote leader of the free world, and yes – We elected him to be the leader of the free world. But the way that our system in America works is we, the people, are really the leaders of the free world. He is in charge because we elected him and we have asked him to do that for us on our behalf. But really, at the end of the day, Richard, it's we, the people, we aren't subject to anyone. The way it's supposed to work, I think a lot of politicians don't understand this. We're in charge of them. It's not the other way around.
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Well, that's exactly correct. And this question applies to families in your business life as well as in a public sphere as well. I don't think there's any worse answer a parent can give a child when they ask why to say, I told you so. Because that curiosity about why we do things is very important. And when we train people, if we explain why before we teach them what and how, we will get much better buy-in and more successful implementation than if we just dictate do this and don't ask any questions.
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That's exactly right. And in authoritarian-type countries and dictatorships, and I can go down the list, Richard, the bottom line is only those at the top and even some of them don't ever get to ask the question away. They might ask it quietly among themselves, but they don't ever go to the quote-unquote leader or the person at the top and ask that question. They might get executed.
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Yes, and what happens is after one or two generations, it breeds a weakness where people are not able to think and determine what's the best path. That's right. And it reminds me of the story of Grandma and the Roastpan, which I think I've shared with you before. You have. Whereas the guy comes home, his wife's making dinner, and he's talking to her, and all of a sudden she pulls the cleaver out and whacks the end of the roast off. And he says, why'd you do that? And she goes, I don't know. Mama always did it when she made roast. They call Mama, and they ask her, and Mama, why'd you do it? Well, that's the way Grandma always did it. So they call Grandma, ask the question, Grandma, why'd you cut the end of the roast off? And she said, because it wouldn't fit in the pan. But two generations later, people don't know why they're doing things. And that makes a weaker society when we don't know why and we're not doing the most efficient things.
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I mentioned earlier this week, and it's a good segue into this because it dovetails in Richard. And this is I tried to be as you know, not that I'm always politically correct because I'm not. I mean, I just blurt things out and say it anyways. But there's a reason why a country like let's let's use this one, Iran. has never invented, and they haven't, they've never really invented anything. We as a free nation, free country, because men have the ability to do what you just said, think, go out on their own, be rewarded for that thought process and the things that they create and make and so on. It's why we as a nation have created more good things for the rest of the world than any other nation probably ever known to mankind has ever done, and it's why places like Iran are don't create, don't make anything because they're subjects, Richard. They can't think that way. It's not allowed.
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Well, that's exactly right. And another example that I love is from World War II, and it was the difference in the German army and the American army. The German army, when we invaded Normandy... Hitler was sleeping, and even the top generals were afraid to wake him up, to ask his permission to do something, because they were afraid of him. The Americans were held up, and many were killed because of the hedgerow country there, and a technical sergeant came up with the idea to put a blade on the front of a tank. They call it a rhino tank, and once they did that, they could bulldoze through the hedgerows, And they were able to have victory with fewer losses. And that was the difference of individual thought and knowing why we do something versus just obeying orders.
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We had this example from another guest yesterday, Richard, along those same lines. It's why... we as a country today have the pipeline and the infrastructure that we have in this country to deliver oil, water, natural gas, and other things is because we had somebody in World War II that realized, hey, guys, we need a better delivery system of our fuel products than what we have right now. We need to do this better and thought outside the box because of the very things you and I are talking about. And voila, pipelines were invented.
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Exactly. And when we do that and when we let people, whether it's family, employees or in the government, we let people know why we're doing it and what their individual contributions make to the effort. It gets people participating because they know their contributions are essential. Every person's contributions are, and that fuels people's why they do things for themselves and their families as well, and it makes things more purposeful all the way around.
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And somebody will correct me, I'm sure. Yes, there were many type pipelines and things like that all the way back into the 1800s, but nothing richer that had been used along those same lines to do the things. I mean, Rockefeller, of course, used them for oil and things like that. But that whole idea and that thought process at that time was the difference maker.
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Well, exactly. And look here more recently with the hydraulic fracking. And the difference that's made in the energy industry as well. And again, that comes from the ability to ask why and how can we do things better.
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That's exactly right. And to your point, comes from a free nation where, even in my notes, the Bill of Rights, you know, our First Amendment, has that ability for us to question, to ask. And by the way, the reason why we can go to government and ask questions is because, Richard, as I said earlier, we are free. government. We are the ones that are essentially in charge. We are actually asking our employees, why are you doing it this way? That's because of the way our system was set up from day one.
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Well, yes, and we need to get the employees back to recognizing and understanding that. I hope some of the actions going on today will help do that.
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Absolutely. All right, give us some good quotes and some things that you've also got in your book along these same lines.
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well and robert f kennedy always he said some men see things as they are and say why i dream of things that never were and say why not so that's another variation of that particular question that free people can ask and dream and pursue those goals and that's the americandu spirit that we're talking about an americandu spirit because of the freedom politically and economically is what's made our country and what will continue to help us succeed.
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Let's close with your new book that's out, how folks can get a hold of it, get a signed copy, and so on.
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Well, thank you. Americans Who Made America, 19th Century Growth, Division, and Reunification. It is 40 profiles from the 19th century, which follows up the 18th century. And just today we uploaded a bundle package on richardbattle.com. for three of the American's books with a bonus book thrown in, and they are all signed. If people want them inscribed, they can email me, richard at richardbattle.com, after an order. We're happy to do that. If you order the bundle, you can keep them for yourself or split them up and give them out. But it shares that Americandu spirit and patriotism and history.
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That's awesome. Richard, we won't be together next week because things change around with the weekend, the four-day weekend and how that works next week. But I appreciate all that you've done for us. We'll talk to you the week after Independence Day and wishing you the best Independence Day ever.
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Well, we wish you a happy Independence Day in the audience also. And remember, we say July 4th. It doesn't really honor what it is. Independence Day. And we need to remember that and pass it down to our kids and grandkids.
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Absolutely. Richard, have a great rest of your day, sir. Appreciate it. We'll do this. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. And he did a great interview here of late. Listen in to Al, and we'll be back right after Al Smith.
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This is TJ with KLZ Radio, and I've got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial here in the studio with me. Al and I were just talking about how in retirement he helps his clients to stretch the time in their retirement. Al, what do you mean by that? Tell us a little bit more about how time works in retirement.
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Well, when you think about leaving the working world, you think about, well, it's still going to take money to live on once I'm retired. And that nest egg, whatever that is, that's going to permit you to do what you want to do with the time that you have sort of earned for yourself. So the nest egg is not only in dollars, but it's also in the time that you have to do the things that you believe will be fulfilling in retirement. And when I have a conversation with people, I think it's equally important to think about how they're going to be spending their time as it is to accumulate a nest egg.
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You've got to have some pretty good examples of things that people do in retirement. So open the door for us. What sort of things can we expect?
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Well, sure. I have one gentleman who is very much into aviation. He owns his own small plane. He actually works on that small plane. He's within a few years of retirement. He's retirement age. But right now, while he's working, he takes his small aircraft, flies to locations where he investigates air disasters. I also have some people who spend a lot of time with their grandkids, some of whom live nearby and some are a little farther away. I have some who are incredibly involved with their churches and go on missionary trips and so forth.
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How do people get in touch with you if they want to stretch that time out in their retirement?
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They can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if they're driving when they hear this, you can contact KLZ and they'll put them in touch with me.
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Of course, as always, you can find Golden Eagle Financial on klzradio.com slash advertisers and get right in touch with Al if you're driving and can't write that number down. Al, thank you so much for joining us today.
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You're welcome.
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putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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All right. We are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I didn't get into a lot of the details of the Douglas County, you know, home rule vote. They wanted to, you know, change from being a non-home rule county to being a home rule county. And if you want to know what that means, go look it up. But essentially, home rule means you've got the ability to do some things differently than what essentially would be going on inside of the state, providing that it still aligns with certain things that the state is doing. So, for example... You couldn't do something that is completely against what the state constitution says just because you're home rule. Now, it does give you more freedom as a county or a city to do some things with zoning and things along those lines outside of what the state may have. And I'll be just straight up honest. I didn't have a dog in the fight. It didn't really change anything for me personally one way or the other. Home rule can be something that works well. It can be something that doesn't work well. It really comes down to those folks that are actually elected. You do end up giving your county a little more power or your city a little more power when they have home rule. For me personally, on the onset, if it's not home rule now, why would you want it? If everything's functioning and working well and so on, why make that change? And so that's probably the case that I would have or that that'd be the position that I would take on it. Although in this particular case, it didn't matter because it got shot down. Now, this is this is where I really wanted to talk about. And frankly, I think it got shot down for a lot of different reasons. And some are going to be probably mad at me for saying some of these things. But folks, when you don't give out the proper information on what's actually happening and why this should be done, it's called leadership, by the way, when you don't do that correctly, you can expect things to fail. There's always going to be somebody in opposition to an idea that you have, much to what Richard Battle and I were talking about a few minutes ago. People that are in very dictatorship-type countries, communists and so on, they are not allowed to be free thinkers and they're not allowed to think outside the box. There's always somebody there telling them what they can and can't do. And if they do start to think outside the box or draw outside the line, somebody is quick to bring them back in, meaning that they don't even have that ability to think that way. Now, in the case of – this particular situation where you're trying to communicate to somebody why you want to do something or not do something you better have all your ducks in a row and you better be willing to take plenty of time to actually present that case because if you just try to ramrod it through which is what i kind of feel like happened in douglas county probably not going to work out and it didn't now on top of all of that One of the leaders, I believe it is Thiel, is claiming that the reason why this thing went down is because of the Communist Chinese Party and its involvement in the election. Now, I'm kind of laughing. I am laughing. And I love our Republicans and our fellow cohorts and so on. But when you say things like that, number one, you look like a really, really, really dumb person. You've taken all credit. I was talking to Andy about yesterday. You've taken all your credibility away now. If you had any at all, you've now removed all of it because you're blaming a Douglas County election, whether you want to be home rule or not, on the Communist Chinese Party, Chinese Communist Party. Folks, let me just say this straight up. They don't care. I'll just tell you that straight. When it comes to that particular topic in that particular area, and I know some of you probably would disagree, and you're going to come back at me and tell me that they do. No, folks, they don't. They don't. They have much, much, much bigger fish to fry than whether or not Douglas County is home rule or not. They don't care. Frankly, I don't think anybody outside of Douglas County cares. Sorry, no one does. That is one of those things where you can be on both sides of the aisle, or I should say either side of the aisle, and have strong opinions for or against. And by the way, neither is wrong. I'm going to say that again. You could be either for or against, home rule, be on either side of the aisle, left, right, or middle, have those feelings, and not be wrong. Because there are cases where it's great to have. And it would be an advantage. And there's other cases where it's not. And yes, I do know enough about home rule to know that's how it works. And really, just like anything else, comes down to who's leading it. Who's in charge? Who have you elected? As I said earlier, I'm more on the side of it's worked up to this point. Why does it need changed? Why do you need home rule now? And I get the comeback's going to be well because the state may want to institute X and we wouldn't have to if we had home rule. Well, not so fast. That's not always true. That might be your thinking, but that might not necessarily be the case when it's all said and done. It's sort of like states wanting to do certain things that go against the feds, and the feds come along and say, well, yeah, we believe in states' rights, but this is something that's overarching, and yeah, no, you can't do that. Sort of like, by the way, what the Trump administration and the EPA just did to California regarding their CAFE standards and their EV standards, not CAFE, but their EV standards and so on. They just came along and said, California, you can't do that. You can't set that. So we all, by the way, as conservatives especially, kind of come into where we don't want Big Brother telling us what to do, and yet we had certain conservatives that wanted home rule in Douglas County, and you just have to ask the question, why? It worked before. Why do you need this? But lastly, to get on some sort of a bandwagon that we lost because of the Chinese and because of the Communist Chinese Party, that's laughable. Those of you that are on that bandwagon, you look really, really, really silly. I'll just say that straight up. And where that's coming from is there is evidently an Asian individual, by the way, happened to be a Japanese individual. And George Thiel accused this organization that it's organized by an Asian-American resident of Douglas County. They opposed it. the home rule end of things, and so George is basically accusing the Chinese Communist Party of funding that particular organization, and that's the reason why they lost. George, George, George, Georgie, please, don't be a fool. Don't act like a fool. Don't talk like a fool. Don't be a fool. You make the entire party, myself included, look like a fool when you say ignorant things like that. And yes, it's very ignorant. And somebody please pass this on to George for me. Whether he's listening or not, don't know. But somebody, for the love of God, pass this along. This is the kind of stuff that grinds on me so severely. It bugs the death out of me because saying something so ignorant makes the rest of us look just as ignorant. There's no basis for it. There's no proof of it. George's answer is, well, prove that they didn't give money. George, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard anybody say. And I'll just say this straight up. George, if that's how ignorant you are, you don't deserve to be in charge. I'll say that straight up. And, George, before now, I actually had some respect for you. Not a lot, but some. I don't always agree with everything that you do, and I'm saying this publicly, but to now go after this and say what you're saying, you don't deserve to be in leadership. You don't. So those of you that are around that area of Douglas County that know George, you can tell him straight up for me, he doesn't deserve to be in charge after saying these things. Because it sounds really stupid and ignorant. It makes the rest of us sound the same way, myself included. Give it a rest, George, you lost. And again, why did you think you needed home rule in the first place? I guess I'd like to know that. Maybe somebody can call in and tell me why Douglas County actually needed home rule in the first place. But to then lose handily, by the way, handily, not a little bit, but a lot. and then blame that on China, on the Communist Party, man alive. That's really, again, I hate to keep saying this, but it's just so ignorant. It makes everybody else look so bad that's on our side of the aisle. Those of you that are conservatives that are a part of the Republican Party in Colorado, this is the stuff that damages our credibility, and it shouldn't be talked about in this way. And George actually needs to come out with an apology and say, you know, I'm sorry, I was wrong, you know, said something in the heat of the battle. I didn't really mean it. He needs to give a retraction on all of this so the rest of us don't look so stupid. And I mean that sincerely. So if anybody has any ability to put some of that into George's ear for me, please do so. And George, I'm extremely disappointed. And I'll just say it straight up. You probably should go one step further and just resign from your position. Say, you know, I'm not fit to do this. Somebody else can step in because this isn't for me. And it's not, George. It's not for you. If you can't handle your emotions and what's going on any better than that, you don't deserve to be in leadership. Period. You guys know my standing on leadership and how that works and so on. I talk about it every Wednesday with Richard Battle. All right, we'll be back in a moment. Cub Creek heating and air conditioning up next. If you need help with your air conditioning system, by all means, give Cub Creek a call today. Find them by going to klzradio.com.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right. We are back. No Sonny Kutcher today, by the way. She is busy, had another engagement. So appreciate her. She'll be back with us here in a couple of weeks. So appreciate her. And you can always go find her at Young Americans Against Socialism. Either way, whether she's on with us or not, you can still go there and support their cause and what they're doing. And I would encourage you to do so. OK, something else that I was reading and. You always have mixed emotions on these sorts of things, although this one I think is more cut and dry than what the news media would want you to believe. This happened to come out of Hawaii News Now. I don't know how it came into one of my feeds, so I picked it up. U.S. Army Purple Heart veteran was forced to self-deport from Hawaii. So when you read that headline, you think, well, geez, why? I mean, that doesn't make any sense. So after nearly losing his life in combat, say... June, I think I'm saying that right, June Park was told by ICE he had three weeks to return to South Korea. So after 48 years in the United States, decorated Army veteran Se-Jun Park left his life, his family that was in Hawaii on Monday, not knowing if he'll ever see them again. He self-deported to South Korea under the watchful eyes of ICE agents. Park tearfully hugged his son, daughter, parents, aunts, and friends at the Honolulu Airport. And it goes on to talk about his story and how he got involved in the military and what he did and so on and so forth. Well, he never became a full citizen. He had a permanency resident card and green card. He got that actually when he was seven years old, which allowed him to go to the military and do all the things that he did. But here's the catch that is further down into this article. He did well, went and fought, did all those different things. Well, like a lot of vets, and I understand this, he came back, was honorably discharged, but then he suffered from severe PTSD. He turned to marijuana and some other drugs to combat that, I guess you could say. Well, in turn, he was charged with some drug offenses and spent a couple of years in prison. And in other words, he's not squeaky clean like the article or the headline would have made it sound. And so because of that. They disallowed his continual green card. And because of his record, I'm guessing even trying to apply for citizenship probably wouldn't work. So in that particular case, yes, even though he's been here that long, he is now forced to leave. Now, some would say that's totally wrong. We shouldn't be doing that. I disagree, by the way. By the way, he could have become a citizen long before he got involved with, you know, kind of the crime end of things and doing some of the things that he shouldn't have been involved in and so on. He could have become a citizen at that point. Had he become a citizen and even had gone through those things, he'd still be a citizen. That wouldn't have changed. But when you're not, this is where I think a lot of people, there's so much misinformation out there in the press that when somebody comes to this country as a guest, in his case he was, seven years old, he gets a permanent residency card. At that point, he's still a guest. Yes, he's a permanent resident. He's got a green card. He can work legally and all of that. But he's not a citizen. He's still a guest. He's not, quote unquote, a member yet. Okay? Doesn't have the member with benefits yet. And... As an immigrant, and I know lots of these, I've got very good friends that immigrated to this country, went through all of the long, lengthy process of becoming a citizen. And it's arduous and it's not fun. And frankly, I keep saying this on air and I've been saying this now for over a decade. We need to fix that. We need to clean that up. We need to make it easier. Shouldn't be that hard. There should be a merit based system to make that work. But at the end of the day, you still have to go through the process. And somebody asked me yesterday if I'd been following the situation where the gal from Utah that was a student was coming through Colorado, got over to the Grand Junction area, got pulled over. That particular officer communicated with ICE, which now there's all sorts of questions as to whether they can or can't communicate with ICE. And at the very next exit, she gets pulled over, and then she gets sent to the detention center over here in Aurora and spent about, I think it was, Charlie, 19 days or something in detention, I want to say. Again, guys, don't quote me on that. I don't have the story in front of me. But, yeah, I followed that. And that's another one where, again, I have mixed emotions. She's another one. Her family came over from, I believe it was Brazil. And just so you all know, there isn't anything war-torn in Brazil to whereby you can come here on asylum from a country like Brazil because it's not a country that's in that position. And frankly, hasn't been. Not in her lifetime. You can't really be an asylum seeker from a country like Brazil. Now, her claim is that her family at one point tried to go back, and there was so much violence or whatever that they then had to come back to the United States. The situation is she's never become a citizen, had a green card, done anything along those lines, and so she's not a citizen. She's here illegally. Her and her folks overstayed their visa. They had a visa to come, and they overstayed their visa. Now, this is the question I've always had, is you're overstaying your visa, but you can go to college, no problem. That's screwed up all by itself. Why is that allowed? You should have a current visa or not be allowed to go to college in America, period. That one, to me, ought to be fairly easy. And why we're not pushing that out, which we should be, you shouldn't be allowing people that don't have a green card and aren't here legally to even go to college in the first place, is my opinion. Somehow she was able to do all of that and, again, was on her way back, you know, coming back to Denver for something. I don't know exactly what. I didn't get all the details of that. Frankly, don't care. She got pulled over, ended up going to detention. Where does she go from here? I don't know. I haven't followed up on that part of the story. Maybe one of you knows and you can send me an article on that. I don't know exactly the situation at this point. Bottom line. While I feel for some of these people, and I do believe they're good people, I think even this particular person in Hawaii, I'm not saying he's a bad person, but he did make some bad decisions at one point, and in turn, it ended his ability to be a citizen of the United States of America, meaning if he's not a citizen... and you're not allowed to be here, then the alternative is you go back to where you came from. And it'd be no different than if I or Charlie or any of you listening went to a foreign country and we overstayed or we didn't go through the legal channels to be there legally, eventually we'd have to leave. Yeah, well, plus we go there and commit a crime. Thank you, Charlie. Yeah, you have a criminal record to boot. So that's another whole issue here with this particular person. And, yeah, and two years in prison on top of that. So, again, while I'm sympathetic, and I am, my heart goes out to these people, but... I think the only thing that I can say is we, as a country, we have allowed this bad behavior to go on. It's sort of like that dog that sits at the edge of the table and begs and begs and begs and begs and begs. And you feed them a little bit and you feed them a little bit and you feed them a little bit. And then you wonder why they're still begging. Well, because you've encouraged that behavior. They're going to always be there begging because you started it. We've done the same thing as a country when it comes to a lot of the immigrants, illegal immigrants that are here. We're now trying to clean that up, and everybody's mad because you're now telling the dog, you can't be at the table anymore. Even though the dog's been there for the past umpteen jillion years, probably most of its life, you're now all of a sudden saying, Fido, you can't be here anymore. Dave, go ahead. Hey, Dave. Oh, Dave, are you there? Dave in Thornton.
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Oh, there you go. Hey, Dave, now you're there. Yeah, just a quick comment on the South Korean guy. You know, you brought up an important thing that everyone needs to be aware of is that, you know, there's ample time that he had to adjust his status to U.S. citizen.
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Correct.
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Once you get that green card, within five years, it's expected of you to adjust your status and become a U.S. citizen. You're not supposed to have a lifetime green card. You intended to become an immigrant. That means you're coming here to be part of the whole and you should become an American.
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Right.
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Period.
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Right.
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Now, the other thing with his military service. Just because, and believe me, I support all of our military members.
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I do, too. I'm very thankful. You know, he took a bullet and all of that. And, Dave, I'm very thankful for all of that. But you're talking about two different buckets here. They're not one and the same.
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No. But just because you served in the military does not excuse your criminal record.
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American citizens go out there and they commit crimes and they've served in the military that the judge or the law doesn't say, oh, well, olly olly oxen free, I guess we can drop all charges against you. No. If you've committed a crime, you're still subject to the law. So the thing is that when it comes to military members who are foreign nationals, what it takes to have them removed from the country is very, very, very intensive. That literally goes all the way up to Washington, D.C., and it goes through several layers of review. before someone signs off and says, yes, now this person can be removed. And so the thing is that if he went to prison for two years, he was a felon. And so that means that he's now amenable to removal because he is a felon. Now, there's no mitigating circumstances. He could have 10 children. He could be a Medal of Honor winner. Not that that would happen, but I'm just saying.
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I get it.
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He became a felon. And now because he chose not to adjust his status and become a citizen, now he's going to be removed. And so the other thing that other people got to realize is that especially when you're in the military and you're a foreign national, those folks, believe it or not, get to go to the front of the line. We recognize that they're serving this country. And so once they get through basic training and everything else, while they're in the military— They can apply, and guess what? They get to go to the front of the line and adjust their status. So the entire time that he was in the military, he could have adjusted his status, and he would have gotten the benefit of the doubt and moved to the front of the line. But again, he chose not to. So, again, these people got to realize that they've got to take personal responsibility for their actions.
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I agree. And by the way, David, if somebody wants to petition government to put a new law immigration-wise whereby if you go and serve for four years and whether you... Take a bullet or not, but if you go and put in X amount of time, that will speed up. To your point, that either gives you some sort of automatic citizenship, you still need to go pass your test, do the things necessary, and so on. But if you want to do that as soon as you get out, we're going to allow you to do that in a much faster process than we would anybody else. You know what, Dave? I'm all for that, but that's not the system we have right now. Did I lose you, Dave? I think I did. I got to take a break anyways, but I get where Dave is at with that. And again, folks, what I would say is if that's something that needs to be changed in the immigration system, then let's petition. Let's get that changed. Let's make that happen. But I'm one where I look at a lot of these cases. I read a lot about a lot of these individuals. And again, folks, I do mean this. My heart goes out to him. I get it. In this particular case, he's been here for several decades. He's raised a family. I understand all of that. But law is law. Folks, if we just start bending the rules all of the time to accommodate anything willy-nilly that comes along, we don't have a rule of law anymore. It's a rule of, well, how do we feel today? Who are we going to give a pass to today? And I get it. We have a lot of things that aren't fair at times where somebody gets off with something that they shouldn't have and so on. Nothing's perfect. No legal system is perfect. But ours is pretty darn good when it's all said and done. And, again, I look at a lot of these cases that the media highlights, by the way. They tend to highlight these things because it bodes well for them. They highlight these things, and it's always the woe is me thing. You know, look at what we're doing to immigration. Woe is me. And they find the, you know, one-off stories, if you would, that can sensationalize their side, and that's exactly what happened here in Hawaii News. Now, I get it. It's a big story. I understand that. But at the end of the day, he didn't do things correctly, and now he's paying the price. No different than what all of you and I would have to do if we did something we weren't supposed to, and we finally had that day of reckoning, I guess you could say. Mile High Coin coming up next. And again, folks, if you've got a collection of anything kicking around and you're just wondering what is its value, you can get a free appraisal at Mile High Coin. And then if you decide to turn that into cash, David Gonzalez can help you with that as well. 720-370-3400.
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For a lot of you, this is going to be like pouring gasoline on a fire. I apologize, but this is what's coming. We all use DMV. At one point or another, we use it for you name it. There's going to be increases to the cost at the DMV coming, I believe, Monday, June 30th. This is what's going to happen. Driver's license was $30.87. By the way, who came up with that nice round number? It now goes to $32. Learner's permit, 1852, goes to 19. A state ID, either a new or renewal, was 1267. It goes to 13. A commercial driver's license was 1708, goes to 1750. By the way, these aren't huge increases. In fact, some of these, it's just almost rounding up, except for, this is weird, the duplicate license. It was 12, now it's 1230. Why don't you just make it 13 or 1250? Who's coming up with these numbers? A driver's license, the second one, or subsequent, if you've lost your first one, you've got to get another one. Which, okay, just as a side note, it doesn't cost them anything. Any more to make the first, the second, the third, or the hundredth. The cost is the same. There is no difference. But yet, the second time around, if you need a duplicate, it's $12. If you need it again, it's $16. Or it was. Now it's going to go to $12.30, $16.40. A vehicle record search, which sometimes you need to determine title and so on on a vehicle, was $2.20, goes to $2.25. That's a bargain, by the way. Just saying. A minor driver's license, once you get past the permit, it's 33 or was 33, now it's 34. And then there's a couple of other ones that have to do with ID cards and so on. They're going up about a buck, buck and a half a piece is all, 50 cents a piece maybe. And again, who came up with these round numbers? I have no idea. These all will, and there's actually going to be some license plate fee increases as well. Those go into effect on July 1st. Let me give you some of those. The embossed regular plate, the current fee is $291. It's going to $369. The embossed set, which I don't know what that means because you've got to buy a set no matter what, was $583, now $738. Specialty plates were $470, now they're $564. Specialty plate set, $940, going to $1127. uh the mounting boards which if you have a permit you know the board that it goes on uh they're going up by a penny is all each which is again why bother i mean i guess over the millions upon millions of those do i guess a penny will finally add up right charlie i guess that's how they're looking at it you do it you know you do a penny a million times over do the math yeah and the penny's going away yes it is charlie absolutely SMMR tags going up about $0.28. DPA blanks with tabs are going up a penny. Electric vehicle decals are going from $0.25 to $0.69. Inoperable vehicle tags from $0.45 to $0.78. Low power scooters, $0.25 to $0.39. And the collector tax, $0.25 to $0.26. Now, registration fees. This one, I think I've got enough time to go through some of these. This is where not huge increases, but keep in mind, when you go get your car registered, and I've had so many of you send me your documents and complaining, good night, it's like a ticker tape. All the different fees and things you pay when you go get your vehicle registered. Yes, it is. So here's some of your new fees. Plug-in vehicle registration fees are going from $5719 to $60.05. Commercial electric road use fees from $5513 to $5789. Commercial electric usage fees, larger scale, 16,000 pounds to 66,000 pounds is going down. It's coming from $119.25 to $115.76. And then the more than 26,000 pound commercial electric road use is going from $165 to $173. So most of those aren't affecting... uh maybe a few of you driving electric vehicles that might affect there's not too many electric fleets to be honest with you so i'm again i'm not sure who set these and why or where these came from this came out of a revised statue 43-1-128 so if you go to the dmv next time around and think prices went up ever so slightly, you will be correct because they are. And I get it. They have operating costs and so on. And if they can offset some of that, their taxpayer employees, if you would, all those DMV sites and so on, they all work for us. So if we can offset some of those costs by collecting more revenue to offset their cost, I'm okay with some of that, providing it's all in line. My beef, and you guys all know this already, my beef with all of the license plate registration stuff is, To get around Tabor, they just keep adding fee after fee after fee after fee because they talk to any Democrat. They'll tell you that this state's biggest biggest holdback when it comes to raising more money to give away to all of their special interest programs is Tabor. Every Democrat will tell you that. And that's going to be a big deal that we have to continue to fight against every single round because every Democrat out there. I don't think I'm exaggerating. Every Democrat out there wants to do something with Tabor. Now, some will tell you they don't want to change it a whole lot. Some will tell you they just want to go away completely. Some will tell you that the reason why we don't have better grades in our schools and we don't do this and we don't do that is all because of Tabor, because we can't fund it the way we're supposed to. Yes, there are Democrats in this state that will say exactly what I just said. It's a lie, flat-out, bold-faced lie. But they'll run on that, and they will get everybody that they can to try to come over to their side, believing that Tabor is somehow a bad thing, and it's what's limiting us as a state in doing the things necessary in the state that we need to be doing to care for all the different things we have going on. I'm here to tell you, and I've said it a gazillion times, that's not the problem. The problem is they spend money like a bunch of drunken sailors, and I mean that sincerely. They spend more money continually, and if they had more, they'd spend more. Tabor is literally the only thing that keeps them from overspending. They still overspend. In a lot of areas. But it's the only thing that keeps things in check in Colorado and keeps it from being just a runaway train. And we have got to make sure we keep that intact because I'm here to tell you, folks, they're going to continue to fight on that and fight. There are Democrats out there telling everybody that it's unconstitutional even for us to have Tabor in this state and limit how much they can actually raise their budget year after year. And for those of you that are new to the state, Tabor is based upon an increase in population and inflation. It's that simple. It's not that complicated. They can only raise their budget by X depending upon what those two things do. So, in other words, if we have a population decline... And even if the inflation is flat, for example, they may not get as much budget that year as they normally would. They actually could go the other direction. So that's why the left, the communists, they hate, the Marxists, they hate any kind of a control, a reining back of their spending because they would give every ounce of money away that they possibly could because it's how they keep getting elected. Never forget that when it comes to the left here in Colorado. All right, Roof Savers of Colorado. 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All right, wrapping up hour number two. And again, appreciate you all listening. Thanks for the text messages. Somebody said that maybe the reason why Dave from Thornton dropped off is the cell service and the storms and the things that are happening in northern Colorado are worse today than they actually were yesterday, even though they predicted them to be the opposite. They actually predicted yesterday to be worse. But right now, I guess in a lot of places, it's worse now than it actually was yesterday. So First of all, be safe out there. If you're driving around and you see anything at all, inclement weather-wise, tornadoes, things like that, be safe. You guys know what to do. I don't need to reiterate that. You guys that live in those areas know exactly what to do. So be very, very careful. Be alert to what's going on around you. And Hour 3 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right. It is Health and Wellness Wednesday. Thank you all for listening. I appreciate it greatly. I don't have a guest today until 3.30, so I've got the first half hour open. And I've got a few things to talk about. Before we do that, though, question of the day from yesterday. Name the mammal. that has the largest gestation period, gestation period, I should say. And this one I actually knew I was surprised. So I don't get many of these questions. Right. But this one I happen to know that would be the elephant. Twenty two months of pregnancy. A couple of you guessed blue whale and some others. But no, the elephant is the longest. So two or twenty two. So over two years to be pregnant. Wow. That's a long time. Just saying. All right, today's possible question. Botanists do not consider these three berries to be true berries. Name the berries. So botanists do not consider these three berries to be true berries. And honestly, that part I don't know why they wouldn't consider them to be. I haven't read the explanation of that. And we have all these misconceptions, I think, at times of what's a vegetable versus what is a fruit. Like a tomato is a fruit. It is not a vegetable. An avocado is a fruit. It is not a vegetable. I can go down the list. And we get a lot of those things backwards at times. And because we just get in the habit of kind of categorizing things in general to be, you know, that category, even though they're not. If you were to ask a lot of people on the street what an avocado is, they'd tell you it's a vegetable. Same thing with a tomato. Same thing with a cucumber. It's a fruit as well, by the way. So anyways, I won't get into lots of details here because it doesn't matter at the end of the day, but most people don't know the difference, by the way, from one or the other. All right, I got some things to talk about here in a moment as soon as I come back. We're going to take a quick break and come back because this will be a little bit longer. And I was going to have a guest on but couldn't coordinate yet, and I think I can do this one on my own. There was a Red Cross. A little bulletin that went out today. They were trying to get some folks on air, but I couldn't get that coordinated. But some top tips to stay safe this Independence Day weekend, through the long weekend. And several of these I'll get into. There's about five. four three or four i guess there's three things well they can they kind of dovetail together so there's you know more than one under each but i'll i'll get into those here in just a minute and some of these especially for those of you that have kids but even even not having kids one of the things we'll talk about here in a moment is the whole you know water drowning aspect of things and i don't know if some of you saw the article but there was a group i believe of i think it's don't i should have had this in front of me but i don't think it was eight people on lake tahoe eight or ten, I can't remember which, and all but two drowned. There was a severe, seven drowns. There must have been, it must have been nine people, because I know two survived, and then Charlie said seven drowns. There must have been nine people on the boat. And what happened is there was a big freak storm that came up, which they can from time to time, and, you know, mountain lakes and so on. In this case, it came up, and there were eight-foot waves that had come up, and And these weren't kids, by the way. I looked, and the youngest, I believe, was 36 that passed. Most of them were in their late 60s, early 70s. One of them was one of the bigwigs at DoorDash, is one of the people that actually passed away, one of the gentlemen. And point being, these sorts of things can happen, and you never think it's going to happen to you. And so you kind of poo-poo some of the safety things that, you know, we may be wanting to do, should be doing. And I'll get into some of those here in a moment. That was one of the reminders between reading that early this morning and then getting this Red Cross little bulletin that came out. I thought, okay, that's a great topic that we'll get into. It is health and wellness, so it fits in perfectly. But we'll be back here in a moment. Veteran Windows and Doors is up next. 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Listen online, klzradio.com. Back to Rush to Reason. And we are back, Health and Wellness Wednesday.
SPEAKER 15 :
Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 06 :
John, a health and wellness tip on how to cook spaghetti.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's hear it.
SPEAKER 06 :
I read this the other day, and I hadn't thought of it, but after they explained it, you know, most Americans eat their spaghetti or any type of pasta, you know, soft all the way through, and whereas the Europeans tend to eat it al dente, a little firm in the middle. And this nutritionist said, no, you should cook your pasta al dente, which instead of soft all the way through, it's got a little firmness in the middle. And she said, because the Number one, you chew it more, but the firmness means it's broken down and absorbed by the body slower, which means it doesn't spike your glycemic index.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, good idea. I didn't know that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and then she had all the science on this and how long. Makes sense. And it was a university study where they took blood samples every five minutes versus eating soft pasta versus eating al dente pasta. And she said, and the other thing, don't put oil. A lot of people put oil in their water. When they cook the spaghetti under the bleach, that's going to keep it from sticking. Unnecessary, it adds calories, and it prevents the sauce from adhering.
SPEAKER 15 :
That I did know. That I did know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don't use oil, and if you can develop the taste for it, cook and serve your pasta al dente, which means... Eight to nine minutes instead of 10 to 11 minutes. Good to know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Something else along those lines I learned just a couple of days ago, which I did not know. A lot of people, as soon as they get done eating a meal, depending upon what they're doing, if they're at work, at lunch, or whatever, they'll brush their teeth within 10, 15 minutes of actually having a meal. And what I learned this week from a dentist is... that is not the way to do it. It actually creates more acid in your teeth because your body's producing acid in your mouth, in your saliva glands, to help digest that food that you just ate. And by then brushing your teeth and mixing it in with the toothpaste, you're actually making it a lot more acidic, therefore potentially damaging more of the enamel on your teeth. So the rule of thumb is wait at least an hour before brushing your teeth after having a meal.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I wasn't aware of that, but thank you. And by the way, I want to correct myself, John. Since you're in Colorado and your listeners are up in the mountains, that 8 to 9 minutes versus 10 to 11 is for sea level. In Colorado, and particularly in the mountains, you need to cook your pasta longer because the boiling point of water... The answer to the question, what temperature does water boil at? And the answer is that it depends what your altitude is.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right. There's no straight answer.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, here in New Jersey, we're almost at sea level. Water boils at 212°F. You know, depending where you are in the mountains, I think there are some places up. I've got a friend up there who's got a house up near Granby. He can't get his water any hotter than 202, if you look at the chart. And, by the way, turning up the heat will make it boil faster, but it won't get hotter. If you turn up the heat under a pot of boiling water, whether it's boiling slow or boiling fast, it's still going to be the same temperature, and you typically need to add a couple of minutes before. Anything you're going to boil, you need to boil a little longer in Colorado.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's one degree, by the way, for every 500 feet increase over sea level. That's the rule of thumb.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. So you're at 5,000 feet. That's 10 degrees. So instead of 212, it's going to be 202. Right. And if you go up even higher to Aspen or some of those places, you're going to be down in the 190s. So that's why I remember I was down in Larkspur, John, I used to always have to cook my pasta like 13 or 14 minutes to get it fairly hot.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, right. Good point. Good tip, Joe. All right.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, appreciate that.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, thank you, Joe. And, again, that was something else on the brushing your teeth that I learned this week. Not that I'm somebody that brushes their teeth right after eating a meal, but a lot of people do. I see people actually do that. And the rule of thumb now from actual dentists that I was following, I actually follow a nutritionist. This particular lady that I follow, her brother is a dentist, and she was under the impression that you could go ahead and brush your teeth right after a meal as well, but then was corrected by her brother saying, no, that's not the way that works. Okay, back to this Red Cross tip for the Fourth of July Independence Day celebrations. Whether you're swimming, golfing, camping, here are some steps to help you stay safe this summer. Swimming. Now, this is a big one. Especially those of you that have kids, but even as I was mentioning before going to break, even out boating and things like that. And I have been on some boats on lakes. I've been in the ocean as well, but I've been on some boats in lakes where those freak storms can come up. And fortunately for me, and I was a lot younger then, but fortunately for me, the... Folks in charge or the person in charge was extremely intelligent, not their first rodeo, knew exactly what to do, knew where to go take the boat, put it in some of the different kind of hideaway coves or places, could see the storm coming. In one particular case, we were out boating, and things got so rough that we were up on Lake Granby, and they got so rough that we actually took this particular owner, had a really long rope, which was good. And we actually got out of the boat at one point and pulled the boat as close to shore without getting it on the rocks as we could and actually tied the boat to a tree. And we all got out, sat on the shore, you know, even, you know, kind of, you know, making ourself, you know, getting ourself through that particular storm, the rain and so on. and getting completely away from the boat because those sorts of things like we just experienced in, like I just talked about with Lake Tahoe. And I think we've had some even here this year so far, even in some of our local lakes here in the metro area. So the drowning thing is a big deal. It's something that you should always pay attention to. And it can happen, it says here in my notes, it can happen quickly and silently. Unless rescued, it could take as little as 20 to 60 seconds for a drowning person to submerge. Think about that. 20 to 60, so basically half a minute to a minute. for a person that is drowning to submerge. So basically, be water smart, build confidence in the water by learning to, of course, be safer, learning to swim, make good choices, all of that. Now, when it comes to boating, especially, and I get it, life jackets are, especially on a hot day, they're a pain in the neck, they're kind of cumbersome at times, but I will tell you that is what can prevent all sorts of things from happening. And those of you that have kids, anywhere near swimming pools. I don't know if I talked about this on air. I may have. I know I talked about it with my family. But there was a big social media influencer. Some of that I think it was big on TikTok, Instagram, and so on. She was out of town. The husband was watching the kids. They had a pool. Somehow the – I think it was a two- or three-year-old, not very old – somehow got into the pool, and I don't know how this happened or why it happened this way, but she was receiving the calls that her child was drowned. And I don't know where the husband was, but he was inside at the time of the drowning. I don't know where he was during the phone call, but at the time of the drowning, he was inside watching a basketball game, and the child drowned outside. Tragic. All avoidable, by the way. Kids around water, there's nothing more, to me personally, nothing more scary and nothing that you need to be more alert to than probably anything else on the planet, and I mean that with all sincerity. It's worse, in my opinion, than having your little ones walk across the street. Because at least when people are walking across the street, other drivers and people are watching for that child in the pool. No one's watching for them. That water can consume them, as I just said a moment ago in this article, between 20 and 60 seconds, and then it's done. So prevent unsupervised access to water. Those of you that have swimming pools or things along those lines, make sure that gates are locked. Make sure covers are on. Make sure your kids can't open them unless you're around. Make sure nothing gets open unless you are around. I mean, common sense prevails, and I hate to say these things or have to repeat these things, but these are things that need to be passed along because the last thing you want is for a family member, especially a young child, to drown. Don't want that at all. So be extremely careful around those things, period. delegate a water watcher whose sole responsibility it is to keep a close eye and constant attention on everybody that is in and around the water. Whenever I would take all my kids to the ocean, I think I counted to seven more times than you could ever imagine. In other words, my wife just said the way that the other gal noticed that the child had drowned is she was getting notifications on her camera, and the husband was inside watching basketball. I can't think of anything more disastrous than to be getting notified via your camera system that something's going on, watching it, and not being able to... change the outcome so point being be very careful of those things and these things are or this particular list of things is spot on uh just don't pack it wear your life jacket always on a boat if you're in a situation beyond your skill level and while even a lot of folks on a boat say well i swim i swim really well i personally am somebody that swims really well I'm one of those people that is lucky enough that I don't have to swim. I'm a floater. My family is always amazed at that because I don't have to swim. But if you were to get knocked out or you were to hit your head, you're hitting your head going over the edge of the boat or whatever, you might still float, but your face and your airway may still be in the water, meaning that's not going to help you. So whether you're a really good, proficient swimmer or not, many a proficient swimmer have drowned, by the way. And the last thing you want is for a family member drowning. I just can't imagine having that on your conscience the rest of your life with something like that happening. So, again, have somebody designated. If you're going to have a pool day or something along those lines, somebody needs to be that person. And if you're going to switch off, maybe somebody's taking this shift, the next person's taking another shift. Make sure you're all communicating as to who's watching what, when, why, how, and so on, especially when you've got young kids. And, folks, when I say young kids, and maybe I'm off base here on this, but when I say young kids, probably under the age of even 13, 14 years of age. Now, I get it. They get older than that. They can pretty much handle their own in a pool and so on. But, man, all it takes is somebody messing around, dinking around, hitting their head on the side of the pool, something to that effect. And where it gets really nasty, and I'll just be honest with all of you, is when there's a lot of activity going on. So you get two or three families together. There might be 10, 15 people in a pool, in and around your own pool, whatever the case may be, at the lake, at the beach, whatever. And then all of a sudden, through all of the chaos, somebody's getting lost. Somebody isn't, you know, it's not noticed any longer that, you know, little Johnny is in the pool and he hasn't come up. So you've got to be so careful, and again, I appreciate the Red Cross putting out this list in that particular situation. Grilling food safely. We're going to talk a lot about that with Dr. Julie Gatz in a moment, so I'm not going to get into the food end of this, but grilling sparks more than 10,000 home fires on average each year. Think about that. 10,000 home fires from grilling. So always be supervising the barbecue grill when in use. Never walk away from it. If you're even walking away from it, have it in the corner of your eye. Always pay attention to what's going on. And I'm one where, you know, depending upon where your grill is situated, I'm one to where if you can get that out and away from your house at all, please do. In a lot of cases, you've got decks and things like that to where there may not be any other way to do that. But be very careful with where your grill is actually placed, what it's around. If it started to flame up, could it catch anything else on fire? Those sorts of things you really need to be taking, you know, That includes even, in some cases this time of the year, you might have a branch that's even grown in close to the grill, things along those lines. Be very careful. Again, 10,000 homes on average each year are set on fire from people grilling. Be prepared for emergencies. That's critical when you're headed into an area with limited access to phone services and help. This is all for you that are camping and doing things along those lines, camping, hiking, things like that. If you're heading out to camp or hike, wear layers of lightweight clothing, sunscreen, hats. We talk about that a lot, by the way, on Ready Radio. Might even add a little bit of that into this week's Ready Radio program, two to three on Fridays. We talk a lot about these things every year. And I hate to say this, but we will hear here in Colorado before the entire hiking camping season is over. Somebody losing their life due to not being layered up. A freak storm comes in. They get lost. They don't have enough ability to keep themselves warm and dry and fed and whatever the case may be until somebody can actually find them. And it never fails. We lose a life or more in Colorado because of something that really is totally preventable. And it's not always, by the way, folks that are coming in to visit. This happens to people that live here that should know better. Everybody, in my opinion, should know better. But here in Colorado, for those of you maybe that are newbies, transplants that have come in. I'm talking to you from an old native. I've lived here my whole life. I have been up in the mountains. In the middle of summer, where it's so hot, you know, all you want to wear is a T-shirt and a pair of shorts, and yet within an hour it can be snowing. And I'm not exaggerating. I've been in those storms in our mountains here in Colorado. And literally it can change because you can't always see the weather that's coming when you're up at high elevation depending upon what the tree cover is like and what your view is like and so on. And I have literally been in that circumstance where fortunately I always layer it up, always had things with me and so on because, again, I was taught that way by my dad and I've lived here my whole life. But I have literally been in those situations in the mountains where it is beautiful one minute. And within, you know, I'm not joking, 10 minutes later, you could be in a full-fledged blizzard and have no idea that was coming. Or a torrential, you know, rainstorm or hailstorm or sleetstorm or whatever the case may be. So, again, be very, very careful. Never, ever hike outside of your skill set. Never camp outside of your skill set. A lot of people think, oh, yeah, I can do that. I can handle that. I can do Longs Peak today. Every year, Longs Peak especially, I don't know how many people it devours on an annual basis, but too many. And it doesn't need to be that way if people were smarter about what they're doing when they're going out and hiking. And on top of that, and again, we talk about this a lot on Ready Radio, but make sure you're letting somebody know where you're going. If you're going with even yours, a couple or there's a couple of couples going or your family going, make sure somebody else in your family. besides them, knows what you're doing, where you're going, and so on. And, again, I can get into all of the details of that, probably talk a little bit more again on Friday on Ready Radio, but there are so many things you need to be careful of when you're hiking. And a lot of people just, you know, John from Cheyenne calls in all the time. He'll see people out on the trail because he does a lot of hiking where there will be a family of four and they have one water bottle, one little water bottle. That's not enough, folks. You're not going to make it. Each person, depending on how far you're hiking, needs three or four of those each. Not one, three or four. So, again, I appreciate Red Cross sending this out. There's a lot of things that you need to be looking at. These are just three of the highlights that they put in. But most of all, we want people to be safe. as they're enjoying their holiday, especially this. This is the biggest holiday of the year when it comes to barbecuing and doing a lot of things like that. Dr. Julie Gatza will be joining us in a moment. We're going to talk about how to keep your food safe and clean and fresh and get rid of any kind of foodborne illnesses that people might have. So you might incur, I should say, by not being safe. We'll get into that here in a moment as well, dovetailing right into what we just talked about in regards to that list from the Red Cross. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next. Now, for some of you, you're looking at, hey, I'd like to upgrade my vehicle. Maybe you want to downgrade. Maybe you don't need the room that you once needed. Maybe you need more room than you have right now. 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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, and we'll get Dr. Julie rounded up here shortly. Somebody texted in and said, commenting on Joe and his pasta, to not eat pasta, just eat lean protein veggies and so on and leave that other stuff. You know, I appreciate you saying that, but that's not reality. Not for most people. Somebody at some point, even if you're a strict dietitian, you're really watching what you do, watching your weight, watching what you eat and so on, you're still going to have that time where you have an indulgence, if you would, and have pasta or something else along those lines. And every single dietitian that I've ever interviewed says that's okay. you don't want to do it daily but occasionally can you have a meal like that sure you absolutely can and i'm not going to tell anybody not to have something along those lines just because of that i mean the reality is people are going to eat some of those things regardless and my answer back was not trying to be condescending but good luck with that good luck with that because you're not going to get people to change their habits when it comes to some of those things and while that's very noble and I appreciate that and I tried my best to stay away from it as well because personally it doesn't do well with me I can look at pasta and probably gain a pound or two just by looking at it so I do my very best to stay away from it but I also know that the reality is a lot of people are going to eat it regardless dr. Julie joining us now dr. Julie how are you I'm good thanks Always a joy, and as we head down this stretch into Independence Day, I know it's next week from this Friday, a week from Friday, but some people, Dr. Julie, will even start in early this weekend or may take the entire week off, or some will take a four-day weekend. Regardless, it's one of probably the largest outdoor cooking events of the season.
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Yes, I think so, too. It's crazier down here as well. I'm in Florida.
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Yeah, it's a bit. I mean, people here between boating and camping and being at, you know, whatever, whether they're at the lake, whether they're in their backyard, whether they go to the park. I mean, people will get together at other people's homes. I mean, reality is they're typically out doing something and it typically involves some sort of either pre-prepped foods or you're... You're making some food there. Somebody's grilling. There's all these things going on. And one of the things that it may be just because I talk to you all these years because we do this on an annual basis anymore. I get so paranoid wondering, OK, who made the potato salad? So do I. In other words, is that fit to eat or not? And in a lot of cases, we don't know. That's the problem, Dr. Julie.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's true. And, you know, you find out later and you want to die.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know. So give us some tips, whether you're somebody that, like I said, is there trying to figure out what to eat or not eat. But maybe let's back up and go to you're the one prepping. You're the one preparing. Maybe you're the cook that day and you're doing all the barbecuing. Give us some tips on how we keep the food safe for not only ourselves, but the others that are going to be there eating as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure. And, you know, because people, I think, aren't cooking quite as much these days, maybe, you know, it's changed a little since COVID and everyone had to stay home a bit.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I don't think so. I think we're right back to normal again, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Fair enough. So, you know, a lot of these things that were handed down from generation to generation that you just learned in the kitchen from, you know, whoever was the cook in the house was just, you know, just a given understanding. So, I mean, one of the things is cross-contamination and having to do with, let's say you're cutting up chicken for kebabs. and then you're cutting the peppers on the same cutting board and maybe using the same knife. And then let's just say those peppers are sitting in the bowl and you have a bite of one. Well, you've just used the chicken knife for the peppers and the cutting board for the peppers, and no one's the wiser because it could have salmonella, and that's the one that you want to watch out for the most is the pepper. foodborne illness from poultry. That's the biggest one that I think is plaguing people at this point.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree, because that's the one that you typically have to, and I'm not an expert. I don't know molecularly or anything along those lines why that happens, why that's worse than red meat or pork or whatever, Dr. Julie. I don't know. I just know that that is the way it works, and if you're not careful, there will be some bad repercussions.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's true. And so, you know, that's the one. So you want to hot soapy water, wash the cutting boards in between, have a separate cutting board from possibly your poultry. Same thing with the knife. Get a couple of knives or wash it in between. And, you know, the other thing is I always refer to it as chicken juice. And, you know, it's the package that has it sticking out from under it. It's laying it on your counter and not knowing and then setting down a bag of apples and letting them roll onto the counter. So the chicken juice should be just respected. because that should be opened up in the kitchen sink. Yep, that's what I do.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's exactly how I do it. I put the stopper in to make sure nothing rolls down there and then get the chicken out, put that package right. In our case, it's right next to the sink, so the package goes right into the trash. You can rinse off the chicken. And I know there's different theories even. For everybody listening, please don't correct me. Some say never rinse the chicken. Others say rinse it. I'm a rinse guy, Dr. Julie. I've always done it, never had any issues rinsing it. Some say don't do that because you might change the flavor or whatever. I'm looking at the safety factor of it more. The chicken, to me, tastes the same one way or the other. I don't care about that part of it.
SPEAKER 09 :
I can't imagine you're washing off flavor.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can't either.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm a rinser, too.
SPEAKER 15 :
I rinse it, and I've been that way. Again, I think passed down from my dad teaching me how to grill and do things when I was young and just watching how that was done. It's one of those things that I picked up. Now, one thing I was going to ask you today, because I've watched some things on this of late, and I'm not— How should I say this? I don't do every single thing that I see out there because I think sometimes you can get a little bit overboard. But right now, there seems to be a lot of dieticians that are on this microplastic. It's a big deal. We're taking in way too much and so on. So there's all sorts of now, you know, nutritionists and dieticians now that are saying, throw all your plastic cutting boards away because every time you cut, you have the possibility of getting some of those microplastics into what you're doing. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. I threw all of mine away and I was sort of holding on to one for the garlic and onions. And my daughter came over and said, I don't know why you're doing that. And so then I saw the next video because I knew overall I shouldn't be doing it. So there's no plastic cutting boards in my house anymore. Okay, so you are.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I'm like you. I've got one, and everything else we use is wood, and I've got some nice. And I don't know why. I think because just it's faster and easier to pull the plastic one out than it is to do the wooden one. They dry faster, you know, all of that. So I just think for convenience sake, it's easier to use the plastic one, but I'm learning that's not the best thing to do.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and, you know, if we go sort of old school, I think we're probably the safest because, We got to this era by going old school.
SPEAKER 15 :
True.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, you know, hot, soapy water, cutting boards, you know, as board, I think we're going to be safe and just fine.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I think there's this other misconception that, well, using that wooden cutting board, well, it's going to absorb and collect more germs and things and be cross-contaminating more so than what a plastic one would be. That's not true. If you're washing that off... you know, well in between the things that you're doing, even if your somebody only has one cutting board, you can wash it well enough in between. That's not a problem.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. And, you know, the other thing you can always do is take a sander to it if it's a little smelly from garlic and onions. That happened the other night with us, and our cantaloupe tasted like onions, and I went, okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, yeah, there's ways around that, absolutely. Okay, let's talk about temperatures. I know you and I have talked about this in the past, but, again, it's a refresher. A lot of people still need to be reminded. To your point, there's a lot of people that these things aren't passed down. They're more used to sort of looking at the meat and is it done well enough and so on. And if you've done it for a very, very long time, yeah, I get it. A really good chef can pretty much look at a steak and say, yep, that is X temperature just by looking at it. But unless you do it daily, you're not going to know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. I agree. And, you know, you do get smarter at it and you don't need to use the thermometer, but it doesn't hurt if you're newly cooking and you're questioning and is it good or isn't it good? Just get a cheap thermometer, throw it into the chicken and whatever it is you're cooking and, you know, get your reading on it. I believe it's chicken is one sixty five.
SPEAKER 15 :
I've got the list in front of me. Poultry one sixty five. All poultry includes chicken and turkey and ground even for those of you that even do like a ground turkey or ground, you know, ground chicken, whatever. Same thing applies.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. And then I believe beef is $1.45.
SPEAKER 1 :
$1.45.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, for some of you, and I'm one of those, I'm probably one of those that will go under. I've never, ever, ever had an issue because, to our point earlier, beef, not pork and other stuff, but the beef itself, if it's done correctly and everything's handled correctly, you can eat it pretty rare and not have any problems at all.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there's beef tartare, and then there's sushi. So between the beef and the fish, I mean, people consume it all the time, and it doesn't seem to be a problem. And they've even knocked out the diseases that were going along with pork, which I believe is trichinosis. Correct. And you just don't hear that anymore. That's right. So it's just the poultry that you're really concerned about, and eggs.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, the eggs. And going back to the cross-contamination, folks, that's another thing where a lot of times you will cook different things at different – or how should I say it? You'll cook different things at the same time on the grill. And, again, you've got to be careful there because even as you're flipping the chicken, for example, then you go right over and flip the burger maybe. Well, your tongs even at that point, if that chicken isn't cooked at all at that point or only one side is, you're cross-contaminating at that point as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's exactly right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So just watch it, I guess, is the biggest thing, and be careful. Okay, I don't know if we've ever talked about this one. Leftovers and casseroles, 165, meaning that even if you're just warming something back up, you're really not warming it up. You're really cooking it again in a way.
SPEAKER 09 :
You are cooking it. You definitely want that middle to be done just because you have no idea what's happened in between it sat out, and it could have gotten not as healthy as it should be. Same thing with, you know, soups. I just made a soup and it was sitting out and I went, huh, I wonder how long this seafood soup could sit out. So I didn't goof with it. I'm now in the fridge, but. You know, there is that. And every time you heat it up, you're reheating the whole thing. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 15 :
Gotcha. OK, talk to us about we're going to make a bunch of stuff. We're going to haul it off to either our own party that we're doing a picnic in the mountains or we're going to the lake or we're going to go over to somebody's house. And it's you know, we're in charge of bringing X, Y, Z along with us. How do we pack that up accordingly and avoid any kind of problems with the people that we're going to serve while we're there?
SPEAKER 09 :
So the best thing you can probably do is bring two coolers. And if you put your libations, you know, at the bottom, fill it with, you know, put ice on top of that. And, you know, any fruits and vegetables and things like that you want to put in there, great. But a lot of times people are putting the poultry maybe wrapped in a regular grocery bag, but those often have holes in them. So now you've got chicken juice that's dripping onto the ice that's going onto the libations that now you're opening up that. can and you might get that in your can so or in the bottle top so you want to be careful that way I'm if you're gonna do it double triple bag the chicken I say bring another cooler and keep the meat separate from everything else.
SPEAKER 15 :
So whatever, if you're bringing that uncooked, that raw meat, just keep it separate from all others. And the other thing, going back really quick while I'm thinking about it because of the cutting board thing reminded me of this. I know folks that I don't do this, never have, but I do know folks that will take and reheat things even in that Ziploc baggie. That's also a big no-no, correct?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's true. And you're saying with the reheating it, you said?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, let's say you got a hamburger patty and there was a couple of them that you threw in a Ziploc baggie. I've seen people just grab that, they throw it in the microwave, it's still in the Ziploc baggie, heat it up, pull it out. Yeah, that's a no-no.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of microwaves in the first place. So my biggest reason is I saw a science experiment that took a paper towel and beans and watered it with microwave water, took a paper towel and beans and watered it with regular water and the microwaved one barely sprouted, looked yellow and looked very sick from the microwaved water. And I went, okay. That is enough science experiment that tells me we are killing our food if we're going to be microwaving it and then doing that with plastic.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it makes it worse.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now you're just microwaving chemicals.
SPEAKER 15 :
Talk to us about the, you know, consuming the probiotics and some of the fermented vegetables while we're doing all this as well, which actually could probably help our gut at the same time.
SPEAKER 09 :
It does. I mean, I'm pretty much a gut person. expert on this area just because I realized that if you actually fix the gut, and I've known this for years and years, you give back the health that you want or you cannot maintain it. So the biggest thing that you want to make sure that you're doing is digesting your food. So of course we're buying food and eating it for taste, but the whole purpose is to actually get the nutrition so that we can continue to exist in a very nice way each day. So I'm a big proponent of taking high-quality, I guess, enzymes. We have a lot of ethnicities in this country that come along with their own ways to break down the food. You've got sauerkraut, and Americans have pickles, and there's kimchi in Korea, and ginger in Japan, and all these fermented foods are things that actually aid in you being able to break down everything that's on your plate.
SPEAKER 15 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 09 :
So probiotics goes right along with that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, with the source of our food these days, we aren't having the highest quality of food. We aren't eating the best stuff anymore. And so our bodies are struggling to make digestive enzymes just to break down a normal meal. And we're talking our kids as well. So I use a company called Nature's Sources. Great stuff. Yeah, they make a digestive enzyme called Absorbata. And it's hands down as good as anything out there because it's a vegan formula. It breaks down your proteins, your carbohydrates, your fats. your sugars, even dairy products, and now you're getting more bang for your buck, which I think is more important than taking a multivitamin.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree, and I have gotten into the habit, I guess, just because of the relationship that you and I have. And for all of you listening, you can order these. Go to naturesources.com. There's an 800 number there. You can always use the code radio, get some samples. And I would just say, guys, and I'm not paid to say this, and I know I keep saying this every time I have Dr. Julie on, but I buy my own. I'm not paid to say this. They work extremely well. I've gotten in the habit anymore, Dr. Julie, where, yeah, occasionally I'll do something during the day depending upon what I ate and what I feel I need to do, but at night before bed, I take one every night before bed just routinely now.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's so smart. It handles inflammation. When you take it on an empty stomach... It helps with inflammation anywhere in the body. It helps with toxins, poisons, viruses. And you're not competing with food when you put those digestive enzymes in the gut when there's nothing there. When you take it, let's say you're a really great eater and you do make good choices. All it's doing is squeezing more nutrition from that meal.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's say that you don't want to follow any of the suggestions that we have, then take it for sure because you want to push the calories out.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
You want to absorb whatever is there as far as food value and keep yourself from feeling so junky overall.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. Yo, you are spot on. And again, I've learned from you. I've been taking it now, folks, for those of you listening. Well, it's been a while, but nightly, it's been quite some time now that I started doing that on a nightly basis. And everything you're saying, Dr. Julie, it works. And for a lot of you, again, I just want to throw this in. I know it's not necessarily a part of what we're talking about today in regards to cross-contamination and keeping food safe and so on. But if you travel... And some of you even traveling here in Colorado going all the way up, you know, maybe going over the pass or depending upon what you're doing, you might be flying someplace. Take some of those with you because it is the best reliever of any kind of bloating or anything like that that you would have when flying because that change in altitude can have a huge effect upon all of us in a different way.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's absolutely true. Absolutely true, hands down. And the other thing is, let's say you do, you know, contract food poisoning for something that was, you know, consumed. One of the best things you can do is start throwing digestive enzymes. They absorb it. You throw it right into your gut. It will do the best it can to start breaking down the toxins that you just got, the bacteria that's in there. And it never hurts to have a little activated charcoal pills on hand in your medicine cabinet because that absorbs toxins. So that's about the best you can do unless you're somebody who's, you know, autoimmune, you know, compromised and super sick or old, elderly and, you know, not doing well. It's just to gut it out, literally. And you might as well try to, you know, alleviate most of the symptoms that you can by taking something like the absorbate.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really quick before I let you go, clue us in on you've gone to a party and you're not feeling as well as maybe you should be afterwards. Is it because we ate a bunch of stuff we don't normally eat? Is it because we ate too much? Is it because we did pick up a bug or some food poisoning? How do we know the difference, Dr. Julie?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know if you always can. So, you know, any digestive symptom from gas, bloating, indigestion, heartburn, acid reflux, constipation, diarrhea, any of those are simply the body saying, We aren't digesting that food. Something is not right. So, you know, you'll have to pare it back and figure out what's causing it. But everyone thinks it's just normal to have these things. It's not ever normal to have any symptom I just mentioned. It's very common. So if you start feeling that, you know, when you're eating and you're too full feeling, even if you ate well, it simply means your digestion isn't as efficient as it needs to be. So this is where you want to Clean up your diet. You want to take a look at eating more protein, eating more steamed green vegetables, more water, and knock out the gunk. And then aid yourself by taking enzymes. It's simple. It's brainless. You can keep them on your countertop. And if it's an after-party situation, so it's once in a while, help yourself and do that. And if you're just really just trying to keep yourself healthier and avoid getting sick, then get your food broken down the best you can with each meal so that you can avoid having all the symptoms that I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, let's say we did get a pretty bad case of food poisoning. A lot of people listening have probably experienced that and or felt it. And I know I've got a minute left here, but I wanted you to answer, what kind of food should we eat if we find ourselves in that situation?
SPEAKER 09 :
Simple food. If you're, you know, one, you're not going to want to eat for a while, but make sure you stay hydrated. Um, any type of bone broth will be good because it's just, it's nutrition. It's easy. It's not going to have to be digested. It goes right in. Um, you know, something, any soups of sorts that aren't thick and chunky, and then even a smoothie, um, with not a whole bunch of fruit, but some vegetables all blended up in there.
SPEAKER 15 :
How do we find you, Dr. Julie?
SPEAKER 09 :
So you can go to, um, Dr. Julie, um, sorry, Dr. Julie healthy vibes, um, 27 on Instagram or, um, If you go to naturesources.com, there's information about me in there as well, and I'm at the Florida Wellness Institute in Clearwater, Florida.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're awesome. Always enjoy it. Have a great Independence Day, and we will talk to you again, I'm sure, before we get to the next one, which is Labor Day.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks. You as well.
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Explore the unfolding dynamics at the NATO Summit where an agreement on increased defense spending marks a significant turning point for Western alliances. Tony Perkins guides you through the implications of this strategic commitment, championed by U.S. influence under President Trump, and what this means for international relations and Western defense strategies. As tensions rise from the East, learn how the United States' leadership is impacting the security blueprint of NATO and its European allies through expert insights from Congressman Keith Self and more. Domestically, the episode unmasks the political turbulence stirred by fresh impeachment motions and the revelations of Iranian operatives within U.S. borders. Discussions with key political figures offer a deep dive into these critical issues, addressing how they reflect on America's internal security policies and the broader political theatre. This episode also sheds light on the continued efforts of the Family Research Council, emphasizing their steadfast commitment to upholding the nation's core values amid shifting political tides. Join this thought-provoking dialogue to better understand the challenges and triumphs of contemporary political landscapes and the enduring struggle for faith-based advocacy.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
SPEAKER 11 :
In a very historic milestone this week, the NATO allies committed to dramatically increase their defense spending to that 5% of GDP. It's a monumental win for... the United States because we were carrying much more than our fair share. It was quite unfair, actually. But this is a big win for Europe and for, actually, Western civilization.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was President Donald Trump earlier today at the NATO Summit in the Netherlands. Welcome to this June 25th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. So coming up, NATO leaders have agreed to a massive increase in defense spending, once again underscoring the influence of President Trump on the alliance. We'll unpack that and what that means with Texas Congressman Keith Self, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, in just a moment. And the administration is also pushing back on the media's spin surrounding the leaked intelligence report on the impact of Operation Midnight Hammer.
SPEAKER 05 :
The instinct, the instinct of CNN, the instinct of The New York Times is to try to find a way to spin it for their own political reasons to try to hurt President Trump or our country. They don't care what the troops think. They don't care what the world thinks. They want to spin it to try to make him look bad based on a leak.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was Secretary of Defense Pete Hexeth. We'll dig into the details with Victoria Coates, former Deputy National Security Advisor to President Trump in his first term. We'll also check in on the health of the one big, beautiful bill, which may start looking a little bit more like Mr. Potato Head before the process is over.
SPEAKER 10 :
At the end of the day, this is a process whereby not everybody's going to get what they want. And we have to get to 51 in the United States Senate. We're looking forward to progressing on the bill this week, and hopefully when a push comes to shove and everybody has to say yes or no, we'll get the number of votes that we need.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was Senate Republican Leader John Thune. We'll get the latest from Kansas Senator Roger Marshall a little later this edition of Washington Watch. Meanwhile, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell was on Capitol Hill yesterday explaining why the Fed hasn't lowered interest rates.
SPEAKER 09 :
For the time being, we are well positioned to wait to learn more about the likely course of the economy before considering any adjustments to our policy stand. A significant majority of the committee, but also there's a pretty significant minority that doesn't agree, but a significant majority feels it will be appropriate to reduce rates later this year.
SPEAKER 15 :
Members of the committee also pressed him on debanking, a practice that's been used to target conservatives. We'll talk with Indiana Congressman Marlon Stutzman, who sits on that committee. And a quick reminder, your voice and your values, they matter now more than ever. For over 40 years, the Family Research Council has stood strong in our nation's capital, defending faith, family, and freedom. And as we near the end of our fiscal year, your partnership can help us continue to advance our shared values. And thanks to a generous matching challenge, every gift that is given this week will be doubled. So to make your gift, give us a call. We have team members standing by to talk to you. 800-225-4008, 800-225-4008. Give them a call. Tell them hello. And join with us as we stand together for a voice to be a voice for truth. As mentioned earlier today, President Trump began his trip home after spending a little under 24 hours at The Hague for the 2025 NATO Summit. While he was there, he lauded the organization's pledge to increase member nation defense spending, something President Trump has pushed for since at least 2017. And here to discuss this and more, Congressman Keith Self, who is a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee. He represents the 3rd Congressional District of Texas, and he joins us from the House floor as the House is actually voting on a measure as we speak. Congressman Self, thanks for stepping off the floor to talk to us.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you, Tony. Great to be here.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. What are the biggest takeaways from this NATO summit?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, the biggest takeaway, as you just mentioned, is the funding agreements. That is indeed monumental because as little as four or five years ago, we had single-digit countries that had even met their 2% commitment. Now they've gone to five. Well, some of them will take a while to get there. The commitment itself, with the exception of Spain, I understand, is truly monumental. This will change NATO. And now, with all of this additional money that should be coming in, We've got to get our defense industrial base geared up to produce the weapon systems, the ISR, the security equipment that we need to go with this funding increase.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, obviously, President Trump is responsible for this influence that the United States has brought to them, in part, I think, because of what just happened on the world stage that the president is willing to follow through with action to his words.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, absolutely. And also the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Europe now realizes that they have existed under the U.S. umbrella, both nuclear and conventional. for decades now. And frankly, with that war on their doorstep, they understand they have got to step up because China is our pacing threat now. The U.S. must turn to China to a certain degree, not totally. And they realize they've now got to shoulder their own burden for their own defense because the world is becoming a dangerous place.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that's a very good point, Congressman South, because they also understand that the Trump administration is not going to last forever, and they could be back into a posture where they have a Biden-type administration that is weak on the world stage and unwilling to help.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right. And the tyrants around the world are never going to be weak until they are defeated. Russia, China, North Korea, Iran— Until just recently, they were the modern axis of evil, axis of resistance. And Europe understands the world is changing, and they have to change now.
SPEAKER 15 :
I want to switch to domestic issues. Earlier, Representative Al Green of Texas introduced a resolution of impeachment calling for the impeachment of Donald Trump based upon what took place, as we were making reference to, in Iran. How was that met in the House?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it wasn't met very well by either party. I've forgotten the exact number, but it was double-digit. They didn't even make it to 100 Democrat votes. So they understand that they are a rudderless party now. They have no message. They have no leader. They are drifting. And the last thing they wanted to do was to stir up the hornet's nest with impeachment. So, yes, the Republicans voted no, but I was shocked at the number of Democrats that did not support their colleague on the Democrat side.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that was a pretty lopsided. I think the vote was 344 to 79. And as you pointed out, the Democrats generally stick together. Continuing on kind of the national front, recent reports show an alarming number of Iranian sleeper cell agents illegally inside the United States. In fact, 11 were arrested over the weekend, some with ties to Hezbollah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that is concerning. We know that close to a thousand known Iranians are loose in our nation. But those are the ones we know about. How many do we not know about? And the arrests that were made that you just referenced, they have criminal records, which is concerning. So it's something that people just need to be aware of. I wouldn't overreact. But yeah, that could potentially be a threat if Iran decides to activate them.
SPEAKER 15 :
One individual was arrested in Alabama. In fact, I think eight states. These weren't all in one place. They were all across the country. Alabama had, he was arrested and he was carrying his Iranian army ID card where it revealed that he was a sniper between 2018 and 2021. He entered into the United States in October of 2024 on a K-1 visa for immigrants who were engaged to American citizens. How are we letting these individuals in?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, frankly, that was the policy of the past administration. So it's been going on for four years. And, you know, it was the policy. I mean, it was not by mistake, Tony. It was the policy to let people in, give them a piece of paper, release them into the United States. It was a political decision to do that. And I reemphasize, this was not a mistake. It was policy.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, to me, Congressman, that's almost treasonous. I mean, these are individuals who hate this country, who are connected. I mean, these are people, it's not suspected. It is known that they were connected to a foreign government that wants to annihilate the United States.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it might not have been known at the time because the vetting is so poor. People came across the border, the vetting was so poor. So your point is well taken. It might be treasonous to just allow our adversaries free reign into the United States. And we're talking about Iranians, but we know there were many more military-age Chinese mayors. So this is a problem that goes well beyond the Iranians.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's very disturbing when you know there are individuals that want to do harm to America that we had an administration that let them in. Now, we have an administration now that is going out and tracking these individuals down who, as you pointed out, have criminal records. Many of them, five of the 11 Iranians that were arrested over the weekend, have criminal records. And they're finding them and they're arresting them. So what a difference, night and day difference between administrations.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, I was in the border caucus just yesterday morning with the director of ICE, and he gave us some startling figures. They are having great success. I won't go into the figures, but let me tell you, they are doing yeoman work in finding these people. So I just want to encourage people that ICE is doing a magnificent job. On the other hand, in Portland, for instance, People are ramming their cars into them as they leave their compound. They're slashing their tires. So there is also Americans that are standing against ICE, but they're doing a great job.
SPEAKER 15 :
So that brings me to the reconciliation bill, which has provisions for additional funding for the border. Give us the latest on how you feel the Senate version is going to be. I know it's not finalized in the Senate, but what you're hearing, how is that going to be received in the House?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I can tell you how it's being received today. It's not being received very well at all. There are multiple amendments and provisions that are being stripped out by the parliamentarian over in the Senate that are being changed. And I will tell you, I've heard from a wide range of people just today who are very upset at this, who are very upset, who have voiced strong opposition to it. So I have to tell you, If the Senate bill comes over that is radically and materially different than what the House sent to the Senate, I think we're going to look at the possibility of having to do some work on it. And I don't know what form that will take. And it is not being well received what we are being told.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm going to go back to you said the parliamentarian is the parliamentarian taking out provisions that were in the House version.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, this is the birdbath. She's saying that they are not germane under the third rule, which is a rule that says if it doesn't meet the rules of the parliamentarian, they take it out. It's simply stripped out. She has that authority.
SPEAKER 15 :
About 45 seconds left, Congressman Self. What's House Republican leadership saying about the timing of this? If it comes back, are you going to work through the weekend into next week?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, if they hold to the 72-hour rule, we will get the text. And I don't know when the Senate's going to hold their voterama. We simply haven't been told. But if we get the text before the weekend and they hold to the 72-hour rule, we're probably looking at Monday if the Senate has held their vote and they have a bill to send us. That's, I think, the plan that's emerging is perhaps a Monday vote.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. We'll have to leave it there. Congressman Keith Self, always great to talk with you. Thanks for joining us today.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you so much, Tony.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. When we come back, we're going to do an assessment of some of the intel that's coming out of the Iranian situation. So don't go away.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in. All right. Earlier today during a press conference at the NATO summit, President Trump reiterated how very, very successful the U.S. strike against Iranian nuclear facilities were, describing them as obliteration. Now, his remarks were made as news reports from like New York Times, NBC, MSNBC and CNN are claiming that the extent of this damage is exaggerated. Well, I actually spoke with my own sources within the Israeli government earlier today, and President Trump's description is closer to the reality than that of the legacy media. Here to discuss this, Victoria Coates, former deputy national security advisor to President Donald Trump, and she presently serves as the vice president of the Heritage Foundation, Catherine and Shelby Davis Institute at the National Security for National Security and Foreign Policy. Victoria, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great to be with you, Tony.
SPEAKER 15 :
So let's just start with this leaked Intel report, which is just one of many reports of assessments of the success of the attack that would filter its way to the White House. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, this is actually really one of the more shameful episodes and an undistinguished track record by the legacy media. So this is a preliminary report. And I remember when we used to get these things, we would immediately say, this is almost certainly wrong. You know, this is the best we have right now. This is the first report. And so if you ever watch a news show, the first report of a disaster is almost always wrong. And that's why they're labeled low confidence, because the people assessing the situation aren't convinced that they're correct about it. And this was provided to Congress, which was immediately leaked. And for everyone who says the president should consult with Congress, I agree with that in principle. But in reality, everything you share with the Congress immediately leaks like this. And it goes straight to CNN and Natasha Bertram. And it then turns into Trump is lying. They'd rather be wrong, Tony, than give the president credit.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it's really such a shame that, you know, as a nation, we can't come together to, number one, wait to get the facts to see what our military did in terms of diminishing the capabilities of an enemy who has declared they want to kill us. They want to wipe us and Israel off the map. From all accounts, in my conversations with those inside the Israeli government, the operation was quite significant. It was successful. There's still some remaining concerns as they have to filter through more of the data. And, of course, they have some folks on the ground. But what are you basically hearing from the results of the weekend attack on these nuclear facilities?
SPEAKER 08 :
What I'm hearing is that it was systematic damage, not surface damage, that it goes all the way down in. And I'm sorry, it's hard for me to see dropping 14 bunker busters on anything and having it survive. And the notion that it could just be topical is, I mean, it's just sort of laughable on the surface. And then we just had CIA Director Ratcliffe come out in the last hour and make an official statement saying this is false, this is not what I am hearing, this is not the intelligence that the agency is collecting. So we have a preponderance of actual experts. A cabinet-confirmed secretary, the director of the CIA, comes out on the record and says something, as opposed to an anonymous leak. And that's what we have to believe. And it's just it's ridiculous that this happened in the first place. Very, very unfortunate. And I think I think the president's completely correct in his assessment of the situation.
SPEAKER 15 :
Victoria, let's talk about going forward here. the Iranian regime was looking for an off-ramp. They got it in this ceasefire. It's fragile, but I think they're wanting to hold on to power. We've seen reports that I got that they were able to rebuild a lot of their missile fuel production sites that were destroyed last October with the help of China. They were able to rebuild those. So we know that it's not going to be a static situation. What is the best way forward in securing a sense of managed peace in the Middle East?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think it's the threat that we might come back. And the president made that very clear, the Israelis have as well, that they are not going to just walk away from this situation. And now the Iranians know what we're capable of doing, particularly in conjunction with our Israeli allies. The combination is completely overwhelming to them. They have no defenses. They're completely exposed. And so if the message to them is you leave this stuff untouched or we're coming back, do you want to see those B-2s? Not that you can see them. But do you want those B2s to visit you again? I mean, the answer is probably no. So, OK, then we can see what you're up to. And if you start moving this fuel around, if you start rebuilding these facilities, we're going to have to come back.
SPEAKER 15 :
So is it going to be good or are you going to see the B2s? What about regime change? I know this is something the administration doesn't want to talk about, but I know that in Israel they would feel much more comfortable if there were a different form of government in Iran.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the president did talk about it. I mean, he had that Truth Social post over the weekend, I guess, in which he said, you know, if they can't make their country great, why wouldn't there be regime change? But my understanding is he thinks that's a question for the Iranian people. And both he and Prime Minister Netanyahu have spoken very highly of the Iranian people. You know, there are some things we can do. I thought Elon Musk turning on Starlink, that needs a little bit of help in an encrypted sense to really, really assist the people of Iran. That's the kind of thing we can do that isn't 200,000 American boots on the ground. Yeah, absolutely. Really a game changer.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. I mean, I would not advocate for that. But prior to the Obama administration, it was a priority to see a regime change in Iran, even within our own government.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I mean, there is a reason for that. I mean, for 50 years, as you know as well as anybody, they've been chanting death to America. Interestingly, on CNN, they now think that's okay. They've had two separate commentators that I've seen in the last week say, yeah, they chant... death to America, but afterwards they came up to me and said they love American culture and whatnot when they were last in Iran. Honestly, that's your talking point? Is it okay to say death to America?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, just wait until one of these sleeper cells strike something here in the United States, and then let's put the microphone in the face of one of these CNN commentators to see what they have to say.
SPEAKER 08 :
A hundred percent. But I think there is not really much to be gained from trying to reform this government. It's simply too entrenched. It's too hostile. So my preference would be for the Iranian people to choose a different form of government. And since they also have a mark out on me, I will not shed a tear.
SPEAKER 15 :
Just 20 seconds left. Have they ever been at a point in recent years where they're more vulnerable to a change?
SPEAKER 08 :
This is the most vulnerable and they are at the most risk. And so we'll just have to watch this very closely. And I just say to your audience, watch the provinces. Don't watch Tehran. That's where it will happen.
SPEAKER 15 :
Victoria Coates, always appreciate your insight. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Tony.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. Up next, Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas joins us to talk about what's happening in the Senate with the reconciliation bill. So don't go away.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. Republican senators are inching closer to the July 4th deadline to pass the big, beautiful reconciliation bill. And they've made great strides in advancing the bill. But. they're hitting some roadblocks along the way. And as we heard earlier, the House is not sounding too receptive to what they're hearing from the Senate side. Joining us to talk about this, U.S. Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas. He's a member of four Senate committees, including the Finance Committee and the Budget Committee. Senator Marshall, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 26 :
Tony, great to be with you. And I'm setting the over-under for Sunday at 10 a.m. for the Senate to get their job done. And so far, about half the senators are taking the over and half the under. Then we'll send it to the House. So don't give up on us yet.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. So you think you're going to have it done by Sunday?
SPEAKER 26 :
I do. I do. I think we do. Look, we're going to prevent the largest tax increase in American history. We're going to secure the border, take care of our military. How about a Golden Dome? And we saw what was happening in Israel and Iran. Great to have a Golden Dome. And by the way, one big winner in this, and you and I may have talked about this before. I think it's been three years since the Dobbs decision. We're going to defund Planned Parenthood. This will be the biggest win for your pro-life listeners since the Dobbs decision. So I'm very proud of the work we've done on this bill.
SPEAKER 15 :
That has been something, you know, I've been here for 22 years. That's something we've been working on during Republican administrations to try to get done for many years. And in fact, I recall working with Mike Pence, when he was a congressman from Indiana working to defund Planned Parenthood. And we've never been able to get it across the line. So this is historic. And we're talking last year, $700 million that they received from taxpayers. So this is quite significant. But there were some provisions that the parliamentarian ruled that 12 parts of the bill must be removed or amended, this going through what's called the birdbath. What are the big changes that are being proposed by the parliamentarian?
SPEAKER 26 :
Well, Tony, I think, first of all, we're not done yet. I think sometimes she rejects them, and then we go back and we're able to tweak them again. I think SNAP was one of the big ones. She didn't like some process. I don't know how we ever gave the parliamentarian so much power in Congress, but I don't want to give misinformation, and I'm still waiting to see it in writing as well. So hang in there with me, and I promise to come back and talk.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we had a member of the House on, Keith Self from Texas, on earlier. The House is getting a little antsy with some of the changes they're hearing. I know you're a conservative member of the Senate. Do you think conservatives in the House are going to be okay with what the Senate produces?
SPEAKER 26 :
Look, I think there are so many benefits to this bill that we have to do it. Tony, I kind of talked about this will be the largest tax increase in American history. This is worth $1,000 a month to hardworking, middle-income Americans. I think that alone is a reason to do it, funding for four years at the border. It's not perfect, okay? I was hoping to get over $2 trillion of cuts, and this is what the conservatives like me and you are concerned about, the $37 trillion debt. We're not near enough. I do think that this bill basically freezes spending. I think that the opportunity for growth is immense. But we've had multiple talks with the White House. Look, we need to come back a second and third bite of the apple for more cuts in spending. We have rescission bills that we need to work on. So Rome was not built in a day. We're not going to fix the budget issue in a day. And by the way, I got a new budget bill that we're releasing as well to improve that process. So it's an uphill battle, but I think that the benefits of this bill outweigh any risk.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. I agree with you, Senator. I mean, look, the process of making legislation is consensus. Now, we have a unique opportunity with reconciliation only having to get to 51 in the Senate. That's obviously very significant. But, you know, we're not going to get to perfect. It's not going to happen. Not in a legislative body where you have to reach consensus. So I think this is a move in the right direction. Not perfect. There's some things in the bill I don't like. There's some things I really like in it. But That's a part of the give and take. And I know a lot of people don't like that. They don't but they don't understand the legislative process. And I would say this bill is moving in the right direction. Does it get us all the way? No, it doesn't. But as you said, it is a step in the right direction. I do want to before I go to international issues, I want to ask you one final question on this because you're a doctor, a medical doctor. What's your take on the current state of Medicaid and that's in the bill?
SPEAKER 26 :
Look, I'm proud of the work we're doing in Medicaid. We're increasing the spending on Medicaid faster than the rate of inflation. We're gonna increase spending $200 billion a year. We're gonna strengthen Medicaid. We're gonna preserve it for those who need it the most. So we're gonna preserve it for senior citizens, for people with disabilities, for children. And I think we're going to kind of come behind this with a little grant money for some rural hospitals and community health centers as well. Tony, you know this, but Medicaid does not guarantee access to care. A third of doctors don't accept it. At least another third delay access. I mean, I'm, as you said, a practicing OBGYN. I had a patient. She needs to see a neurologist. She needs to see a neurosurgeon, a cardiologist. It would take six or nine months to get a Medicaid patient into those specialties. So Medicaid's not the answer. I think there's better solutions out there, and I'm working on this Make America Healthy Again situation, and I think giving bigger grants to community health centers, addressing primary care, addressing the nutrition issues, that's the path to victory for health care for this country.
SPEAKER 15 :
And if we don't do something to address the rapid expansion, it's not going to be there for those who need it most.
SPEAKER 26 :
It's that simple. We've increased Medicaid funding 50% of the last five years. And as I think about that spending, 90% of it is going towards chronic illnesses, heart disease, hypertension, diabetes, depression. Depression is now one of the top incidence numbers, but also just an expense for it as well for the prescription drugs. So we need to address this chronic disease epidemic if we want to address the cost of health care.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, after running through all that, I'm a little bit depressed myself. Senator, we're out of time. Thanks for joining us. Always great to see you, my friend. Thanks, Tony. Well, we didn't get to the international issues, but we will next time. All right. Don't go away. Marlon Stutzman from Indiana joins us next.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks, Tony. Always good to be with you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Did you get a good explanation yesterday as to why the interest rates have not come down?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know what, I don't know if Chairman Powell is an attorney, but he gave an answer like an attorney, I guess. Didn't give a really clear answer. You know, the Fed does have a dual mandate. Their focus is supposed to be keeping inflation around the 2 percent mark and then also full employment. Well, we have both of those. And inflation has been held in check and is actually coming down. And also employment is fairly strong. And that was why I asked him the question about housing. The housing market is about as flat as we've seen since the recession almost 15 years ago. And there really was no good answer about why keeping the interest rates where they're at now be other than the fact that He's kind of muzzled because he's got to take all sectors into consideration, including agriculture, manufacturing, and then, of course, the housing market. But my belief is that we really are holding Americans. They're stuck in this economy because of the interest rates. And my hope is, is that he would take not only our thoughts, but also the president's and vice president's thoughts into consideration, because we're hearing from our constituents that they're really stuck in a spot where it's not easy to move from one house to another.
SPEAKER 15 :
So the role of this monetary policy of when you have a hot economy, interest rates are when inflation is going up, you raise interest rates to cool things off. If you keep it too long, you have the potential of stalling out the economy. And as you've pointed out, housing sales are going down. Construction is down because the cost of borrowing money is pretty high.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is. In fact, you know, the one sector that actually is doing well, if any, is that's the multifamily housing, you know, apartment complexes. Those are being built because people are able to charge rent because simply, you know, folks aren't able to buy. In fact, the average age for young individuals to buy a house used to be around the 28-year-old mark, and now it's around the 35 to 38-year-old mark. So Young people just aren't in a spot to be able to buy.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that's not a good thing because home ownership has a profound. There's two things that impact people's thinking and their citizenship engagement. Number one is when they have children. Number two is when they buy a house. They become more fiscally conservative when they buy a house and become a homeowner. And they become more socially conservative when they have children.
SPEAKER 03 :
that's exactly right and you know it is it's just that ownership piece that makes us all behave differently because you know we're not gonna let the the grass grow out front because you know we don't want to be the that house on the the block we want to make sure we keep our house up because it holds its value on you know it that was always something that my parents encouraged us kids to do was to add to buy a house so that way you're in the market of course you know timing is always can be tricky But as you said, holding these interest rates flat has really held the housing market in this country flat. And I think there's so many bright spots under the Trump economy that things are ready to take off, but a lot of folks just aren't selling their house because it's not easy to go from that 3% mortgage rate that they have, which they may end up in a 6% mortgage rate and double.
SPEAKER 15 :
So it's really a throttle on the economy, especially as we get these tax cuts that could grow the economy even more. I mean, to extend these tax cuts, at least give people certainty of what's ahead, that could fuel the economy. But high interest rates will be a throttle on that. There's one other aspect of that interest rate I want to ask you about, because the United States government pays interest on the money it borrows. And so that high interest rate affects the U.S. government.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's exactly right. And that's a great point, Tony. Another good reason, and that would be good for our economy and good for the federal budget, is keeping those interest rates down. Because right now, the federal budget, we're paying on our national debt, which is around $36 trillion, almost $37 trillion, we're paying interest to the tune of $1 trillion a year. That's a trillion dollars a year that's not going to our military. That's a trillion dollars a year that's not going to pay down this debt. And so if those interest rates would be lower, that would also be a savings. I know that the Treasury Secretary Scott Besant talks about this frequently, that if interest rates were at a modest spot, then it would make a big difference. The one thing, too, that, you know, the Fed is not supposed to be political, and this This is what really bothered me and a lot of others, is that the Fed actually lowered the interest rate right before the election in 2024. And I've generally said, hey, they're a steady hand at the wheel. But that really made me think twice about their political lens, because by lowering that interest rate right before the election, it felt like they were trying to give the economy a boost for Kamala. So again, I'm sure they've got a different answer on that. But the timing is everything when they do this.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, Marlon, I've been around for a while and I've not seen any entity in D.C. that's not political. Some acknowledge it and some don't, but they're all political. Speaking of that, one final question on the Federal Reserve. It announced earlier this week that it was directing its supervisors to no longer consider reputational risk when examining banks. Explain that, because that goes back to what we saw during the Biden administration of debanking conservatives.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. And, you know, this is a it's a it's a move. It's a good move. Now, banks can still look at reputational risk. Now, for example, and we see this always on the conservative side, Tony, we hardly ever see banks that decide not to bank a particular industry or. on the left. But it's the gun owner shops that have a difficult time getting banks to bank them. There's also the, of course, fossil fuels and the energy sector. You've got this whole ESG that was running around for some time, and it is still there. But environmental, social governance, it's government's way of controlling the economy on that social level. because they don't like fossil fuels, or they don't like the Second Amendment, and they don't support Americans' ability to own a gun to not only defend themselves, but it's our constitutional right. So this is a good move to make sure that we as citizens are protected. Now, you know, we need to keep track of those banks that do do this, and I think the private sector, the free market can help monitor that as well.
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agree that it's a good move. But I ask you, is it a move that they're making out of fear that the Trump administration, by executive order, might lean in on this issue?
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Well, you know what? I hope so. And if President Trump still does the executive order, I'd be fine with that as well, because I think that's what, you know, we're all tired of in America is this woke agenda that has been forced on us by Washington, D.C. and, of course, accelerated by by the Biden administration. You know, we're still dealing with the ramifications of that. But, you know, these agencies, boy, like you said, they are political. They're deeply entrenched. I had dinner one time with Justice Scalia, and he said, guys, don't, fool yourselves that we think that the Supreme Court justices aren't political. They are. They all go to the same cocktail parties together and they like to talk politics. So even in our institutions that are supposed to be nonpartisan, nonpolitical, they are. And so hopefully this is a sign that they're watching Trump's lead and that Trump will lean onto these issues if he has to.
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Marlon Stetsman, always great to see you, my friend. Thanks for joining us today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you, Tony. Great to see you.
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Congressman Marlon Sussman of Indiana, one of the fighters for the good things on Capitol Hill. All right. I want to go a little bit deeper into this issue of reputational risk, as this is something that the left was pushing and using this as a tool to to debank. conservative organizations. It happened to us, all right? We were able to push back, but it happened to us. It happened to other conservative organizations. So I'm going to bring in Chris Gasek, Senior Fellow for Regulatory Affairs here at the Family Research Council, to help us unpack this a little bit further. In the meantime, as Chris is coming in, I still want to encourage you to give us a call, 800- 225-4008. If you'd like to partner with the Family Research Council, our team's standing by to take your call. Chris, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Good to see you, Tony. All right. So we were just talking with Congressman Marlon Stutzman about this. This is a good move, as we said, but maybe the Fed trying to avoid more of the Trump administration engaging and forcing them to correct some of their political positions that they've had in the past.
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I think this is a really good point that you made and I think his answer was very good as well. I mean, what seems to be happening right now is at the state level and at the federal level, the banks and the federal agencies are trying to pull back and trying to sort of you know, make us forget about the bad stuff that they did. And the Wall Street Journal had a big article yesterday about this, talking about these major banks going to, especially to Texas and Oklahoma, try and get those state regulators to, you know, be more lenient on them. Go ahead. I'm
SPEAKER 15 :
So these regulators, these are the people that show up at the local bank and they say, I want to look at your books and I want to see what you're doing and how you're doing business. And so they they have a lot of influence with these banks. And if they're putting this category of reputational risk, meaning you're doing business with a conservative organization that could cause reputational risk to your entity, which could cause you to go under. then that's the door that they're using, correct?
SPEAKER 24 :
Well, exactly. And these are the bank examiners in particular, right, as part of the regulators. And it's funny, you know, when you start to read something like this and the government and life is so complicated, there are all of these, you know, different pressure points in all forms, in all areas of life. And so one of these areas is the bank examiners. And the bank examiners have a lot of power, apparently, because we have someone on staff here whose family was in small banking in rural Texas. And essentially, over time, they were put out of business by the cost of the regulators. and the examiners that they had to pay for as being part of a rural bank. So what I think the Congress could do and other people who were involved in this is try to find out what exactly were they – what were the Fed regulators? In other words, what were they asking about all of these different categories about guns? and churches.
SPEAKER 15 :
But it even goes to the United Nations. The United Nations leaning in on this on environmental issues and the Fed kind of adopting that U.N. platform to go to a local bank. And you talked about Texas and Oklahoma, and that's even unfolding even now as we speak, is they're revisiting this, where if you're involved in fossil fuels, then you're a risk. And so the bank is just kind of discouraged to loan capital to those types of businesses.
SPEAKER 24 :
Well, right. And in the Wall Street Journal piece, they talked about two of the major banks and that they had pulled out of this essentially this umbrella group for, you know, the environmental, you know, sort of, you know, ESG. Right. There's this, you know, kind of moniker for good behavior in terms of the environment. And the United Nations Environmental Program, FI, so there's a subgroup about it regarding finance. I'd never heard of this. And it was so, you know, well defined that they were trying to dictate how banks could could interact with their customers. So the tentacles of all of these globalist and environmental, all of these institutions are almost hard to imagine. And that's what we're seeing in the pullback here. And I think an executive order by the Trump administration might really be a good thing.
SPEAKER 15 :
All of this, trying to expose all this and clean it up while we have the opportunity is critical going forward. Chris Gasek, thanks so much for jumping in and sharing some more insights on this. You're welcome. All right, folks, thank you for joining us as well. And we've got folks are going to stand by the phone to take your call 800-225-4008 to partner with us. All right. Out of time for today. Until next time. Keep standing.
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Join Logan Seculo and the ACLJ team as they provide insight into current legal battles and strategic operations across the globe. Highlighting the organization's pro-life legal efforts in Missouri, this episode uncovers the heated challenges facing Planned Parenthood and what this means for pro-life advocacy nationwide. Additionally, we bring you live updates from Jerusalem, offering firsthand perspectives on international incidents that have a domestic impact, shedding light on America's integral role in global security operations.
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after a major intelligence leak of Pentagon investigation commences.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Secular.
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Well, you could have expected this to happen. Of course, the New York Times, CNN, all of your favorite sources are now saying, you know that incredible military strike that our brave team was able to go in, get it done, and get out before even anyone knew it happened? Not good enough. Not good enough. And of course, that reporting came out of some leaked documents. And of course, we still are dealing with the fact that there are leaked documents. Leaking is still happening, but thankfully now we have a group that is in there right now in the Pentagon saying, hey, if you're gonna be leaking these top high-end security details, number one, it's treasonous. Again, those are their words. It's treasonous. And also, we're gonna do an investigation. We're gonna figure out how you got this info. Because really, who does it benefit? Who does it benefit to show this analysis? And the analysis, of course, they said was not necessarily 100%. It wasn't necessarily accurate. They did say that it was leaked, saying that, yes, it pushed them back probably months. Maybe it didn't push them back years or completely decimate these facilities. But it's also not anything that's been 100% proven by any means. But the only person or the only group that this emboldens is the enemy at this point.
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That's right, Logan. We now have confirmation that the deep state isn't just alive and well, but it's playing politics with war with our troops now. And so who does the deep state go to when they want to subvert the agenda of President Trump or even the successes of our military? They go to Natasha Bertrand, who is CNN's deep state correspondent. Remember, she is the one that got the exclusive about the 51 former intelligence individuals that were coming out saying, hey, this Hunter Biden laptop, it's Russian disinformation. So she ran with that. That was her big scoop. And now her big scoop for CNN is that there is an intelligence report from the Defense Intelligence Agency that, by the way, has low level confidence.
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What does that mean?
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That means that this is just a very preliminary assessment. They haven't been able to really get in there and see what has gone on, but the low-level confidence, top-secret intelligence report... that was leaked to CNN said that it appears that their capacity to build a nuclear weapon is moved back by a matter of months. So that is now the headline that you're seeing people like Aaron Burnett on CNN running with after their reporter, Natasha Bertrand, went with it. The New York Times are all taking it. They're celebrating this like there's egg on the president's face when in reality, Our soldiers, our troops, our pilots went over there and had a perilous mission, did it, and now they're celebrating it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they're celebrating what they think could be a not 100% successful mission. Well, you know what we know also about this, President? Guess what? If it's not 100% successful, you know what's going to happen? We'll send a couple more over there. We'll see what happens. Okay? Right now, there's quiet. Quiet. Has anything happened really overnight? No. Did that ceasefire stick the first time? No, but did it stick that second time? It sure seems like it. Because we have an administration that actually cares. Do I like that these kind of things leak? No, I do not. I think that this is very damaging to a lot of people and to really, it's to our safety and our security. We got to figure this part out. And I'm glad that Pete Hegseth and some of the other groups there, I mean, look, they were able to accomplish the mission without anything leaking. They were able to do the unthinkable, send planes from Missouri to Iran and back without any of us knowing. Not even the news was reporting that there was explosions that happened. It was done before anyone knew. But how dare they have a successful mission? We're going to try to put egg on their face and then try to besmirch the name of our U.S. military. It's disgusting. I hate it. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Once again, 1-800-684-3110. We're going to talk about this as well as some big ACLJ moves that are happening right now in the pro-life sphere. We're also going to have an update, hopefully today, by Jeff Balaban. Tried to get him yesterday at ACLJ Jerusalem, but as you can imagine, sometimes the connections are getting a bit rocky over there. But today, I believe we will have him on later in the show. And of course, we want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulo. I know a lot of you are just joining us right now, so I think we should reset very quickly. We're talking about the intelligence leak that happened. You may have seen saying that, hey, they didn't fully destroy these nuke facilities, but they bumped them back just a matter of months, which again, to me still, bumping back what was a almost... nuke threat by a matter of months that's still a success but they're saying of course that's not even accurate but that is coming from a low level leaker and right now the Pentagon is going to investigate how this happened because this should not still be happening like Will said it feels like the deep state can be alive and well right now if it comes to any sort of success that may happen under a Trump administration. Now, I do think we should give some time to President Trump. Give some time to CNN so you can hear what they had to say. And maybe some others will. Where do you want to go first?
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Well, let's first lay out what happened. This was Natasha Bertrand, who is infamous for Russiagate reporting with Business Insider. And then she got a promotion within the world. of uh of anti-trump journalists and and joined cnn and then she famously got the scoop about the 51 intel members that lied about the hunter biden laptop to try to give cover for president biden's uh election in 2020 and now she has a new scoop and this is the headline exclusive Early U.S. Intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say. What is so troubling here on many layers is that remember how Pete Hegseth and the entire team early on, because of the incidental adding of Jeffrey Goldberg to their signal chat, put National security at risk. So many people were at risk and just the fact of our secrets being not protected. Now we have CNN running with a story that was leaked to them. So happy to do it. of a successful bombing campaign in iran that is trying to push a different narrative than what the president has said and honestly it's a low low confidence assessment it's very early but they're breathing sigh of relief because they actually have something they can report on that their audience hopefully will like that's the problem is they've been uh you know having to cover a story that has been kind of celebrated over even from a lot of democrats and they don't like that
SPEAKER 11 :
It doesn't fit the narrative. So what are we going to do? We're going to get someone we know, a low-level person in the Pentagon, to leak us a document that says, oh, it was a success, just maybe not as big of a success as we thought.
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And the fact that they are so excited and wanting to push this, and you even saw Aaron Burnett, who a few weeks ago, maybe just before the attack, said that Iran was years away from a nuclear bomb. now joyfully reporting, look, it's only pushed back their program a couple of months, trying to have it both ways. They are excited about this instead of calling this out. What is this? A national security risk, this leak. This is someone who decided to leak something for political purposes, and the only person it helps, other than maybe a bump in viewership at CNN and MSNBC, is the Ayatollah of Iran. It's a PR win for the Iranians. Regardless of what the assessment says, the only person it helps is the Iranian mullahs and Ayatollah.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think we should give them their due. You probably want to hear from them. So maybe we'll hear from Bertrand, hear a little bit from CNN. Where do you want to start with?
SPEAKER 14 :
Sure. This is Natasha Bertrand reporting on the story. This is Byte 10.
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about the battle damage that resulted from those U.S. military strikes on these three Iranian nuclear facilities over the weekend. And as you said, it was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency, which is the Pentagon's intelligence arm. And it is worth noting that it is a very early assessment. The strikes were only a matter of days ago, and the intelligence community is still gathering intelligence. They are still working to come up with a full comprehensive picture of what exactly happened here. But based on a battle damage assessment that was carried out by U.S. Central Command, essentially looking at the images and looking at what was actually damaged, the Defense Intelligence Agency has assessed that the core components of Iran's nuclear program are largely intact and that Iran's nuclear program has essentially only been set back by months.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, so that is CNN's point of view. Again, coming from leaked documents, low-level documents. Again, she caveats it a little by saying, you know, this is just early assessments. We don't really know. We haven't really been able to go take a look at all the battle damage. This is maybe from looking at, I guess, satellite imagery of what happened here. And look, I'm not saying necessarily they're wrong. Now, President Trump and a lot of them have said they're wrong. But the idea that you would get this document, you would push to get it, And then you would report on something that, again, only benefits a very big threat to the United States. I don't understand other than just putting President Trump, making him look somehow a little bit less honest, I guess, than they want, because he said it was a massive success. But let's hear from President Trump as well, talking, and then Caitlin Collins.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, fake news CNN? Oh, yeah, yeah, here we go. Wait till you hear this question.
SPEAKER 09 :
thank you you should really say how great our soldiers and our warriors are i think everyone appreciates our soldiers and our warriors i do have two questions for you mr president you just cited israeli intelligence on these attacks earlier you said u.s intelligence was inconclusive are you relying on israeli intelligence for your assessment of the impact of the strikes
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, this is also Iran made the statement. And it's also if you read the document that was given that Pete can talk about if you'd like. The document said it could be very severe damage, but they didn't take that. They said it could be limited or it could be very severe. They really didn't know other than to say it could be limited or it could be very, very severe. And you didn't choose to put that because it was very early after. Since then, we've collected additional intelligence. We've also spoken to people who have seen the site. And the site is obliterated. And we think everything nuclear is down there. They didn't take it out.
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When you hear the president there, one, also pointing out, as CNN likes to do, and you can tell that Natasha Bertrand, even in that report, had clearly seen the whole document. She knew a lot of details and ins and outs. But that is selective reporting. In the headline, the splashy headline that they wanted was that the assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say. They are using anonymous leakers. that are dangerous to the United States national security. They are trying to undermine the mission of our military and of the president. They should be celebrating that everyone was safe, that it struck a military target, and that it wasn't leaked beforehand, even though they are probably upset that their deep state sources didn't give them a tip off ahead of the flight so that they could put our pilots in harm's way as they're on their way to Iran. But instead, they just want to celebrate what they could see as a failure by the president to keep the world safe. And that's the only person they're helping is the Ayatollah.
SPEAKER 11 :
But this Pentagon is not going to just roll over and take it. They're not just going to say, okay, fine. We have people leaking, whatever. No big deal. No, no, no, no, no. And Steve Witkoff responded to that. I want to play that just earlier. It's bite five.
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It goes without saying that leaking that type of information, whatever the information, whatever side it comes out on, is outrageous. It's treasonous. So it ought to be investigated. And whoever did it, whoever is responsible for it, should be held accountable. It could hurt lives in the future. Leaking is a completely unacceptable thing.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, I also want to, that was obviously from Steve Witkoff, I want to kick it over to a phone call because we have one calling in about this because we are going to move on to a different topic in the next segment. But phone lines are open. We're going to get back to this content later on. So if you want to call in, you got questions about this, 1-800-684-3110. We have some lines open right now for you. Scott, though, is watching on YouTube in Oklahoma. Scott, go ahead.
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Can you hear me? I can hear you. All right. How you doing, fellas? Good, good. Go ahead. Good. Okay. So I do agree. It's disrespectful to our men and women in uniform that carried out the mission. I just wanted to say that I don't see any reason to get worked up about it right now. Let an investigation happen. We'll find out the truth. And I'm kind of glad that the liberal media outlets are running with this because Once again, give them enough rope, they'll hang themselves and lose again.
SPEAKER 14 :
Scott, I think what the biggest issue with it also is just how much they have made about classified documents in the past. The president trying to have him put in jail, President Trump, over retaining documents from his presidency. But they are freely able to do something in an early assessment when a ceasefire is very fragile. that could embolden the mullahs and ayatollahs and have real consequences for our men and women in uniform in the region. It doesn't help the national security. It doesn't help the lives of Americans. When an assessment like this, which is selectively reported, is leaked by someone that works for the Pentagon, is what it appears, and given to the press and they are able to run with it, And it damages the reputation of the United States. It damages the safety of the United States and of our men and women in uniform. So I understand where you're coming from. And yes, an investigation will be done. And hopefully the leaker is found and held accountable. Because going forward, that also can't be the pattern. It can't be that the deep state selectively gives information to the press in order to harm the interest of the United States. That's why we're worked up about it.
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That's right. In the next segment, we are going to pivot a little bit, talk about some of the work of the ACLJ, some of the amazing work in the pro-life world. You're not going to want to miss this, by the way. This is not replaying old content. This is nothing. This is brand new content from our top legal team. CeCe Heil is going to be joining us as well to really go over all the different aspects of this case and everything we're working on in that pro-life world. But you're not going to want to miss this very special presentation coming up in the next segment. Stay tuned. Welcome back to Seculo. Like I said, I wanted to pivot a little bit and talk about some of the great work the ACLJ is doing. I actually want to take you to Missouri and hear from one of our attorneys to set up exactly what's going on with a brand new ACLJ moment that you're really, you're not going to want to miss this. Okay. So stay tuned. Here it is. This is Kelsey McGee, one of our attorneys at the ACLJ in Missouri. We'll be right back to go through all of it and all the great work that we're doing in the pro-life world.
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Hi, I'm here in Missouri. The ACLJ has been deputized by the Missouri Attorney General to defend its lawsuit against Planned Parenthood. We are proudly standing behind Attorney General Bailey while he fights this lawsuit against Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood, in light of a constitutional amendment allowing unfettered access to abortion, is trying to say that sex-selective abortions are okay. that abortions for fetal diagnosis are okay, and that their clinics shouldn't have to sit and stand by the same rules that other medical clinics do in Missouri. The ACLJ believes with Attorney General Bailey that this is an egregious lawsuit that allows Planned Parenthood to care more about their political clout than it does to care about the patients they claim to serve. Planned Parenthood has to abide by the same sort of medical regulations that every other medical clinic in the state has to. We are so proud to stand with Andrew Bailey in this fight. This case may be taking place in Missouri, but it's important to every single state. Planned Parenthood, if they're successful here, they'll go to the next state and then the next state. And each time it'll be easier and easier for them to circumvent common sense laws and pro-life values. Because of your support, we get to be on the ground in Missouri defending pro-life values and continuing our mission that we have for 35 years, which is the sanctity of life and religious liberty. Thank you for your support. We are so thrilled to be joining the fight for the next 35 years.
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That was Kelsey McGee, one of our associate counsels here at the ACLJ, giving you an update of what I wanted you to see firsthand, what we're doing. So, yeah, we had a crew go out to Missouri to give you a good look at what's happening. We have a lot of great content coming from that. CeCe Hiles joining us as well, because this is just a small portion of the pro-life work that still is ongoing here at the ACLJ.
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Yeah, I think again, we always go back to, you know, when Dobbs came down, I think most people thought this fight is over. And as we've known at the ACLJ, it's far from over because now the fight is going to each individual state. And that's what you've seen from Kelsey In Missouri, you know, we have been appointed by the attorney general there as special assistant AGs, which means we basically act as the attorney generals there defending Missouri from Planned Parenthood's lawsuit. And again, just like Kelsey said, Planned Parenthood sues. So you see Missouri is very much a pro-life country. state with laws their laws are very pro-life but in 2024 there was a ballot initiative like we always say watch out for those that came across and allowed abortion this amendment came in and it gave this reproductive health care right just this vague right to reproductive freedom and Planned Parenthood is saying since we have this right it literally gives us basically an unfettered right to abortion that means you cannot tell us that we have to use sterile surgical instruments
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All the things you would need to have a medical facility, that gives them the option to not abide by these rules.
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Right. You don't need a doctor. All these rules and regulations that Missouri has on the books, Planned Parenthood is arguing those are all gone. So we are in there as the ACLJ defending Missouri on the ground as Special Assistant Attorneys General.
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Yeah, it's great that we're doing this at the ACLJ. You know, we're involved in all the top issues that we know you care about the most. So I encourage you right now, by the way, we are going to continue also our conversation that we had earlier on about that Intel leak and everything that could go on with it. If you have a question about that or a question about what's going on in Iran or a question about pro-life, I encourage you to call in. This is a great time to call in. We have a whole second half hour of the show coming up and we're going to take your calls on that. We're also going to go to ACLJ Jerusalem team. That's Jeff Balaban. You're going to hear from him live on the ground in Israel. But again, this is a perfect time to call in and get in line at 1-800-684-3110 because I know a lot of you are tuning in to hear that, but it's always important. to understand the breadth of the work the ACLJ does, that it is not just focused on one issue, that we're not just focused on reporting the news, that we are out there changing the law, making sure things are getting done around the world. Where's my brother? He's been at the European Center for Law and Justice and its affiliates for nearly a month now working on incredible, incredible stuff that they're going to be doing in Europe because these values don't exist within just the borders of the United States.
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That's right. And CeCe, when you look at this case, and once again, for those of you that have been around the ACLJ for a long time, this is the ACLJ fighting against two of our largest legal foes, Planned Parenthood and the ACLU. Are both engaged in this case. But once again, it shows one, the quality and the respect that the ACLJ and our attorneys have is that the attorneys general of Missouri, the attorney general's office is using our attorneys to help fight back against Planned Parenthood and the ACLU. But on top of that, it also exposes a lot of the lies that Planned Parenthood tells. They tell you abortion is healthcare, but what are they fighting? Against healthcare regulations. What is one of the most regulated industries in the country? health care and what they're saying is that we need an exception to how all other health care is regulated because we need no restrictions it shouldn't have to be a doctor administering abortion medication or performing abortions it shouldn't have to be clean it shouldn't have to have standards It needs to just be leave us alone and let us do this because we have this right. It's a lie that we see over and over again. But now they're trying to exploit a right to this health care that is in the Missouri Constitution and say that gives us a blank check to continue. It also exposes they don't care about the people that go to their clinic.
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Yeah, they don't want to protect them. Absolutely. Planned Parenthood always tries to say this is about women and women's rights. They don't care. They don't care about the rights of women. They don't care about the lives of women. They certainly don't care about the lives of the babies that they're destroying. They care about the bottom thing, and that's dollars. That's what they care about. We fought this. We'll continue to fight it. It's abortion distortion all over again. Yes, you can regulate health care, but just not our health care if it's abortion. And we're standing against that.
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Yep, that's what we do here at the ACLJ. Look, we've talked about what the Planned Parenthood and the ACLU are doing throughout this segment, but you also know how we're involved in all of the other issues as well. I encourage you right now, if you can, support the work of the ACLJ. I haven't done a big ask today. I haven't done those big pitches. Right now, though, I'm going to encourage you as we head to the end of this first half hour. We know some of you don't get us on your local stations. If you listen on terrestrial radio, we encourage you, though, to watch us. You can always see us. At ACLJ.org, you can actually see us on camera, on YouTube, and on Rumble. It's a great experience. You also can be part of the chat. But none of this happens without your support. If you hear ads in your local station, that money's not going to us. That's going to your station or to the network. If you see ads on YouTube, a very small amount of money comes in from that. This doesn't exist without you supporting the work. And over 500,000 alone of you have joined us on YouTube. So we can create a free place where you can have great content that you can then share with your friends and family. And understand that we are not going to put this show behind a paywall. We have no interest in creating the echo chamber. This is for you to take this information and not only taking the information yourself, but to hopefully get it to people who need to hear it. Whether that's our support of Israel, whether right now it's dealing with all that's happening on a very global scale, or all the way to just a kid wants to have a Bible study in their school. We're there on what you'd consider to be the smallest level and the biggest levels. World leaders and individual children, future world leaders. So support the work at ACLJ.org. You can become a champion as well, someone that gives monthly. But with that, we got a second half hour coming up. So don't go anywhere. We'll be right back in less than a minute. A very short reset. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Welcome to Sekulow. Second half hour coming at you right now. Hey, we got a full bank of phone lines open right now. Six lines. So this is a great time to call in as we'll be taking your calls and questions throughout this segment and towards the end of the show. So right now, 1-800-684-3110. We are talking about the leak that came out of the Pentagon. not out of the Pentagon, yes, it came out of the Pentagon, saying, hey, some of those strikes in Iran, maybe not as good as you had hoped. And this gave an opportunity for New York Times and CNN to say, ha ha, President Trump, ha ha, conservatives, ha ha, military experts. Maybe you didn't do quite as good of a job. You did just somewhat of a good job. And of course, this behavior only really supports one thing, and that is the destruction of the United States of America. I'm fine with journalistic. They're getting a source. Someone leaked something to them. I'm not blaming CNN. I'm not blaming them for covering it. But the person who leaked it was only doing it to do damage to this administration, to the United States of America, and the American military. Because there is no one that this benefits. It doesn't benefit anyone other than the Iranian regime, which if you have not learned anything very quickly... is that the people themselves in Iran do not care so much for this regime. Have you seen a huge outcry that they have been taken out, that most of them are gone? No. It's a very different world in Iran. Of course, the nerves come from dealing with some of Iran's partners, China, Russia, but what have they done so far? Nothing. Maybe some words. That's about it.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. I mean, even Vladimir Putin said in a statement that they are willing to help diplomatically the Iranians in whatever way possible. No rush to offer military support or military aid, which, to be honest, they've got a little bit of a military situation on their hands, so they may not have much to give at this point. But you hear from all these voices, and Carolyn Leavitt is putting on X A bunch of statements from what is actually being said within the intelligence community, within outside intelligence community, and even Steve Witkoff from that clip we played earlier that was treasonous. He went on to talk about what happened at the three sites that were hit. And how, because of that, it refers to centrifuges. It refers to some of the above-ground facilities. One of them that was totally destroyed, that is a conversion facility. Those are destroyed. Even if Fordow underground is salvageable in some way, it isn't months that they could all of a sudden get back to what they need. Their infrastructure for this was severely taken out. They don't have the capacity right now. And that was the goal, was to end it. And I also think what people are maybe not paying attention to or not thinking about is that President Trump says he accomplished his goal. First of all, if it wasn't actually taken out, I think that we would be seeing some more airstrikes. But I also think the president reserves the right to do this again in the future if they all of a sudden try to flip a switch. I also don't know if Iran would have quickly jumped to a ceasefire.
SPEAKER 11 :
If they weren't taken out, if it wasn't severely damaged, why would they then all of a sudden come up with an agreement to quiet things down if they hadn't taken a pretty severe hit? Now, I do want to take your phone calls right now. I'll be honest. We got a ton of people watching. If you're brand new, by the way, and I know that when we have these kind of pop numbers, a lot of you are usually 50% are not subscribed. I ask you to hit that subscribe button. It's a great free way to support the work of the ACLJ. It also gets you this show in your feed hopefully every day. You click the bell too. Every day we do it from live. Every weekday, noon to one, we put out great content also throughout the week. So do that right now on YouTube or Rumble. That being said... We have a bunch of lines open at 1-800-684-3110. In the next segment, we're heading over to Jerusalem live because the ACLJ exists here. And also we have a team in Jerusalem at the ACLJ Jerusalem. You're going to hear from Jeff Balaban live on the ground of what's going on. So stay tuned for that. And of course, support the work while you can. But phone lines are open for you. Get in line right now. And after Jeff, we will take as many calls as we possibly can at 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. We are now going live to ACLJ Jerusalem head Jeff Balaban. Jeff, we tried to reach you yesterday, but obviously we know there are always right now some issues, some connection issues sometimes can happen. But I think it's important, though, for people to hear what's going on on the ground as, of course, we are headed out of a what was a pretty historic weekend. We haven't been able to talk to you just yet since. So just give us your assessment of how it's feeling.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's a lot to cover in a short amount of time. The most obvious is it's the first night since this war started that there weren't sirens going off in the middle of the night. So that's a night of peaceful sleep, which is... I'm not saying for me personally, I'm saying for the whole country. Now, of course, there is a war going on still in Gaza. And... Even what you've been talking about now in the air about what damage was done, how much was done, there's a lot of speculation. People are curious, but only those who know really know. And, you know, it's reasonable to assume that both President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu would be hard pressed to make such bold claims if there weren't something to back it up. Now, again, we still don't know the full extent of the damage. Obviously, everyone here is very curious. And then the next, moving on to the next level of question is, what does this mean in terms of Iran and the regime? And I know regime change is a word that a lot of people in America don't want to hear, but the truth is... The nuclear problem was the manifestation, the symptom of a much deeper problem, which is just a terrible regime that oppresses its own people and exports terror and murder around the world, hates America, hates Israel. And the question is, have they been weakened enough that they don't matter anymore? Or will the people rise up and replace them? And people here are very curious to know what's going to happen. And again, I will remind you, but there's still a war going on in Gaza. There are still hostages, alive and dead, that these people in this country really want back desperately.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and Jeff, that is kind of the little bit of the difference between the U.S. foreign policy at this point and the Israeli foreign policy. Because Iran, with the Ayatollah in place, and as long as it is the Islamic Republic of Iran, it will be an existential threat to Israel because their entire foundation is premised on a theology which requires them to seek the destruction of Israel and also the United States. So while... the existential threat to America may be severely depleted through these strikes, there is going to be a friction point between US agenda and Israeli agenda at this point, as long as there is that regime. And how do you see that playing out? Obviously, all speculation, but over the next months, and as we see more intelligence coming out about what actually did occur?
SPEAKER 07 :
So first of all, I will say this. I should have also led with this. The amount of love, really, for President Trump and the fact that he called that shot to allow the bunker busters and the B-2 bombers to go and deliver them, which is something that Israel obviously has the... intelligence and the ability to make those moves, but simply did not have the armaments, the weaponry. The fact that America made the call to do it is something that Israel loves, respects, and they understand they've never had a friend like this anywhere on earth. And that is something very important to the people of Israel. And there's always drama and there's personality clashes. And, you know, there's also Trump is very performative and it's never clear if he means exactly what he's saying or he's trying to present an image because he has something on behind closed doors. No one knows. We do know is that Donald Trump has just acted in a way that is amazingly important for the state of Israel, for the Jewish people. But to your point, the fact is that the the the Islamic regime with nukes represented a major threat to America, not just through its proxies that still exist across America, but because the ability to deliver a nuclear device, even with a dirty bomb, let alone an ICBM, to impact America's grid is a national crisis that could bring down the entire country. And so it has been absolutely in America's interest to do this. President Trump made this part of what he ran on both times. And by the way, Senator, a lot of presidents, he's the only one who actually did it. And so the truth is there's not such a difference in needs and goals. There may be a difference in politics between the two countries.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. I think President Trump, like you said, ran on this. And look, so did videos of Kamala Harris saying, who's the number one threat to America right now? And she very quickly said, Iran. I think that she's like, it wasn't even a question. But of course, now you have to have some sort of spin because President Trump did it. And they have to come up with a reason why this is bad, a reason why this isn't. And Jeff, I know you worked in news for a long time as well. But when you see this and we know that, hey, the leaked document came out and that leaked document said, hey, maybe it wasn't as damaging as we thought. Sure, the news can report on information that they get and all of that. But that only is benefiting to create this sort of doubt that feels like it's only benefiting Iran in this conversation. Why? Not only not just why did you report it? Again, I kind of understand if you're given information why you're reporting it. But the leaker themselves is doing this because clearly they have a personal issue or vendetta against this administration and probably the support of Israel overall.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh yeah, I couldn't agree more. The media have played a horrific role throughout this entire process, spreading all kinds of rumors and allegations and misinformation, using literal Hamas terrorist sources as though it were accurate news. But when Israel said something that was demonstrably true, they would challenge it. The media really, there was just testimony yesterday on Capitol Hill about this. The media really have been stoking the fires, not just of anti-Trump, and really of anti-America, and anti-Semitism, and the media's doing, and yes, I've worked in the news for many, many years, and it's really, it's tragic and painful to see it. And remember, Donald Trump, when he ran on it, he talked about media being the enemy of the people, and this is an example of that. It really is. Now, I mean, that said, we do want to know how much it was damaged, but it's important to point out this is the same media types who are challenging what damage was done and saying, you know, not so much damage. Maybe they're not so much, who a minute ago were arguing that Iran doesn't really have nuclear weapon emissions and is too far away to even have it. All of a sudden, they've completely flipped the narrative as if they weren't making that argument until a hot second ago, until Donald Trump allowed the bombers.
SPEAKER 14 :
Jeff, I also want to get into some of the, you are there still working, even though you have been under a lot of alerts, a lot of sheltering in place as the war played out for those 12 days. But can you talk about also yesterday, we did try to connect with you, just some of the other things that you were able to do while you're there. And especially now that you can kind of get back to work some, since there aren't, the threat of incoming hypersonic missiles?
SPEAKER 07 :
Sure. So yesterday, for the first time since the war started, we were able to get together with a group of people that we at the ACLJ, Jerusalem, but even our offices in Washington, have been working closely with for many years in terms of policy, in terms of American policy, anti-Semitism. These are people who are either americans who happen to be here now or or some israelis who were stuck overseas and were just able to get back in and so it was the first day that we were actually able to meet in person partially because not so much the lockdowns because people were stranded overseas trying to get back into israel and they were able to get back in and we were finally able to meet uh and this is all about a lot of global policy issues that we work on relating to fighting anti-semitism in america fighting BDS across the various states. New laws that are coming up and some that are going to be signed soon that are not yet public, that are very supportive of things we care about in various states in the United States. But again, it's been hard. Everyone's been caring for their family and people have been trying to struggle to get in from the country. And some people here are trying to struggle through their days. And this really represented the first time they were all able to have sort of a mini summit of about 15 of us. to talk about where things are in all the work that we work on constantly. And again, it crosses. It's the law, it's academics, it's policy, it's everything ACLJ works on all at once. And we were able to, thank God, have a meeting and also celebrate the success of these actions and the fact that we're all alive and everyone's well.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, exactly, Jeff. And we're so thrilled that you're still there. I mean, you mentioned BDS. BDS almost feels like a thing of the past because of how hard we've had to now work on so many other... That was like the little anti-Semitism that you felt like was coming compared to what's happened in the last few years. It was one of our top topics, but now it's clear and present for most people. It was not like, oh, Ben and Jerry's won't sell ice cream in Israel anymore. It's like, compared to what we've dealt with now, but it's still happening. We need to make sure those issues are still being raised. It just feels like a lifetime ago.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's still demonizing Israel and Jews. Life is still miserable for Jews in universities in America. There's a whole bunch of issues that have to get resolved, and they were not made better just now. Both sides just ratcheted up their rhetoric.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, Jeff, thank you so much for joining us. Look, in the next segment, I want to hear from you. Now, you've heard from Jeff Balaban. Look, I always tell you why it's important we have these offices in different places around the world. And why it's important to have the ACLJ Jerusalem. Why it's important to have the European Center for Law and Justice. Why it's important that you support the ACLJ, which then can fund these offices. Because again, it may not seem like it, but of course, we now just saw America get involved. We saw fighter pilots from Missouri, stationed in Missouri, go to Iran to help Israel take out nuke sites that were going to be a threat to us and a threat to them. So again, that is why it's so important to have offices and have these places all over the world, because it may seem like we wanna create some sort of America first thing, and what does that look like? Well, this is part of that. You gotta get involved, and you gotta get involved on a global scale. So support the work of the ACLJ. But when we get back, I want to hear from you. Maybe you agree with me. Maybe you disagree with me. We've got four lines open right now. Give me a call. 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back with more on Secula. Welcome back to Secular. We do got a couple lines open at 1-800-684-3110. We're going to take some more calls right now, though, because three of you are on hold. We're going to get to you, but three are open. So if you want to call, last chance of the day to get your voice heard. I always think it's important to hear from you, not just our leading experts, our top attorneys. Will. that's right i'm here that was comma will right let's go ahead and take some phone calls let's go to martin in north carolina watch it on youtube come on and raise up martin go ahead you're on the air thank you sir as i appreciate as christians we're not supposed to stand pat on spiritual warfare and that's where we're at as will says to y'all's point i agree this emboldens
SPEAKER 02 :
of people over in Iran and around here and all that. But to me, the biggest problem in itself is the leak. And I pray that Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, Pete Hatsett, Kristi Noem and Tulsi Gabbard can get to the bottom of this and let people know there are consequences and we're not going to stand for it and we're not going to accept it.
SPEAKER 11 :
I agree with you. I think that it is a really egregious moment here. This isn't a whistleblower saying, you know, there's some nefarious thing happening. We need to tell everyone it's no, it's just leaking classified documents to try to. somewhat hurt the president trump saying that our military did a massively successful thing oh they didn't do it as massively as we thought they had a moderately successful campaign it benefits no one and you're right the leaking is the problem same with the supreme court united states where they said hey we're gonna go now look into who leaked that dobbs decision good okay i don't like this part i don't like that we celebrate the leaking of these documents. There are ways you can get a lot of these with Freedom of Information Act requests. It just takes time. Sure, I wish that process was faster. We do it here all the time, but also, But also, you don't have to have people leaking this information. It's just, it's maddening. So Martin, I agree with you. And yeah, we are in a spiritual war. I think anyone who watches or listens to this show knows that's the truth. And you can feel it. You can feel it in the air. But also we had some comments. Will, you want to take a comment from YouTube?
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. Yeah. So Don on YouTube asked BDS question mark. You mentioned that at the end of the last segment with Jeff Balaban. and said it feels like BDS is a thing of the past.
SPEAKER 11 :
What BDS is... It's not even a thing of the past as much as it feels like it's small potatoes compared to the global intifada that has taken place.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. And so what BDS is, is it stands for Boycott, Divest, and Sanction. And it's a movement that largely was happening on college campuses, which evolved into the full-on anti-Semitism pro-Hamas protest. The cool hipster way to be against Israel in 2010. And what they were calling for is a boycott of Israeli products or any sort of things that companies that had ties to Israel divest. That's where they were asking their universities to within the endowments, like to get rid of either contracts with Israel or get rid of stock holdings that may have ties to Israel, including things like Boeing. Like they didn't want their universities to have stock in their portfolio of Boeing because it helped Israel and then sanctioned, they wanted government sanctions on the government of Israel. So it was the movement, which was rooted in anti-Semitism.
SPEAKER 11 :
It also was reversed to that too, which is don't export your goods and services. Don't sell them to Israel. That's where we saw the whole Ben and Jerry's situation where they're like, we don't want our ice cream being sold there. uh you know that's what was happening um and again that may seem like small potatoes now but it's still important that we get coverage i mean that's how people like modest yahoo and a lot of these people got involved in this movement because they saw what was happening in israel then and that's why a lot of us were ready to go when everything started to unfold over the last two years and it got ratcheted up to the point of uh of where we are now where people are getting murdered in the streets of america it's just horrible. I do want to take some other calls, and I do want to keep this conversation going. I didn't mean to bring us down right there, but it's just the truth of what's happening. Let's go to Alex, who's calling. Listen up, SiriusXM. Alex, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi, guys. Thanks for doing a great job, and I want to emphasize something that I think is extremely important that we should all be doing right now, and that is praying for our president. The man is doing a great job, That doesn't mean he doesn't feel the stresses of the job. We've seen him go through a lot. And he's fighting very hard for what's in the best interest of America and Israel and I believe all around the world in a unique respect. So prayers to the president and his staff. And I believe, and hats off to the men who flew the planes and bombed the sites. Great job to the military. Just awesome. I want to make a very good point to you, and I'm going to do it very quickly. When you believe that there is a threat, you act, okay? Now, in respects to the behavior of the Iranians, I don't know how true these reports are, but in the nature of what we're seeing in the general public about all the trucks that were outside the Fordow site, okay, what is their action saying? about all those trucks being there before the bombing. They believe that that site is impregnable. They believe that that site could be penetrated, could be bombed, could be destroyed. So I believe by their actions alone, by all those trucks being outside that site a few days before the bombing, and God only knows what they were moving around, hopefully with the satellite imagery, they tracked those trucks after they left. But I believe that that mission was completely successful with no doubt in my mind, with consideration to their behavior, And they knew, they firmly believed they were going to be bombed.
SPEAKER 14 :
So what do you do? They knew that something was coming because they weren't playing ball with the president. I think they didn't think President Trump was bluffing. But I think also what you say, it goes back to the actions of the president were not just Washington talk. It wasn't the red line that Obama gave the Syrians that, hey, if you use chemical weapons, that's a red line. And then we're going to bomb you. And then they crossed the red line and they did nothing about it. You have to, if you're going to lead with strength, you have to back up your words with the actions. And that's what he gave them. He gave them a timeline. Then he let Israel go forward. And then he dropped bombs. And that is real leadership.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, I want to quickly go to Frank in Alabama who's watching on Salem News Channel. It'll be the last call of the day. Frank, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, yeah, I just think that, you know, they're saying total obliteration. I disagree with that because the way they were explaining those bombs, they penetrate to a certain depth, you know, like maybe 300 to 600 feet, if that. And they were also saying, well, a lot of those, some of those bunkers were like three miles underground or whatever.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know all the details. I hate to cut you off. You're on hold for a little bit. We only got one minute left. I understand, look, there's going to be a lot of people who feel different ways, but right now we don't have a full lay of the land.
SPEAKER 14 :
They were about 300 feet underground is where the things are. There has been a lot of misinformation and some saying, I've seen that too, Frank, three miles underground. That wasn't the case of where the vaults were. They were about 300 feet underground because they built it into the mountain. And the Bunker Busters, they dropped 12 of them. They go about 300 feet down. Then they explode. They dropped them in succession. There's a lot of damage that can be done with that 30,000 pound bomb. But as we know, Frank, we're going to have to actually see what comes out, not leaks from initial assessments. And we'll find out what the case is.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's a lot of damage. All right. We'll be back tomorrow with more. I want to encourage you to go to ACLJ.org. I want you to support the work we do here. If you're brand new, hit that subscribe button. It really helps us out. So many of you are watching who've never seen our beautiful faces before, Will. And you're like, I want to see those beautiful faces every day. Well, you can. Just hit that subscribe button. And if you love the show, you've been a part of us for a long time, consider supporting it financially. Talk to you tomorrow.
Join the hosts as they analyze the recent US military operation targeting Iran’s nuclear sites, evaluating its effectiveness and the political ramifications. The podcast provides a nuanced perspective on President Trump’s decision-making process, media narratives surrounding the event, and the broader geopolitical consequences. Dive into a deep discussion about the intersection of political strategy, military precision, and international relations.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast with all of the guys, John, Neil, myself, Bob. Guys, how are you? Great. Great, Bob. Thank you. Well, it's always great talking with you. And okay, well, the big news, obviously, everybody's talking about is a situation in Iran. So President Trump, as you know, on Saturday launched some bunker-busting missiles into the Fordow facility. There's also two other facilities that were hit. But The main, the most important one is the Fordow facility. And the reason that that's so critical is because it's buried about 260 feet underground in the mountains of Iraq. And nobody else, nobody in the world actually has the capability to go down that deep into the ground and dig. And destroy something. Well, we do. We've got these 30,000-pound bunker-busting missiles that are able to hit the ground. They don't explode on impact. They burrow down into the ground, and they set off explosions deep underground. And so President Trump says that this is an amazing success. We're now seeing a lot of reports in the media that are saying, well, I don't know, was it really? We have this Intel report from the Defense Department saying this may have only set things back a few months, but we don't really know if that's accurate. So we'll talk about all of that. But first, in a general sense, let's talk about whether this was the right thing for President Trump to do. And as I've been saying, and I said this on my show here in Detroit, I think this was absolutely necessary for Donald Trump to do because – I think that the risk of inaction was way worse. You had a nuclear expert who his expertise is specifically in the area of Iran and nuclear weapons, and he estimated that Iran was within a month away from from developing nuclear weapons, that they're that close they can develop them anytime. And we got to remember, Iran is not like any other country with nuclear weapons, okay? Because Pakistan, North Korea, China, Russia, India, these countries, they don't want mutually assured destruction. They don't want Armageddon. They don't want a nuclear holocaust. But the mullahs in Iran do. Because of this Shia Islam that they practice where they're waiting on this 12th Imam, the Mahdi, to return in Armageddon and taking out the greater Satan and the lesser Satan is a way to usher that in. So for them, a nuclear weapon is something that they would, in fact, use. And if Trump did not take action. And then six months from now, a nuclear weapon went off in Israel or in the United States and people died from this. Everybody would be going, Donald Trump, you had a chance to try to take out their nuclear facilities in Fordow and you didn't do it. You didn't take action. And now look what happened. So I know Trump doesn't like getting involved in military conflicts in other countries, but I think he had to make a very tough decision about which is the lesser of the evils, action or inaction. And he saw inaction as the most dangerous of the two evils, and I tend to agree with him from my armchair quarterback position. So let's kind of go around the table and see what you guys think. First of all, John, right thing to do, wrong thing to do. What's your take?
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. No, right thing to do. I predicted last week that if we were going to do it, needed to get it done quickly. I was off by, honestly, on my show one day was all. I thought they'd do it by Friday. He did it Saturday instead. Or you could say Friday night, midnight, whatever. Bottom line is by the end of the week, he did what I think he needed to do. And for all the reasons that you just said, Bob, and no, for all of the warmongers that are out there, Donald Trump is not one of those. I've had so many arguments on air this past week from the hardcore libertarian, let's never strike out. We only need to worry about what happens on our soil. I mean, some of those guys, by the way, just as a side note, are completely nuts. I have no other – other thing to call them other than they're not looking at things correctly when it comes to how you handle things around the world.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wait till a dirty bomb goes off on our soil.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, thank you. I think it's very, very naive to think that all we need to do is protect our own borders and not worry about other things that are happening in other parts of the world. that would in fact then affect our borders. I think, I think given where things have, have gotten from, you know, World War II to now, I think you're very naive in thinking that you can just stay out of every single conflict around the world. And we just worry about what happens here on our soil, cut our defense budget, you know, backed by, I mean, some of these people would love it cut by probably two thirds, Bob, when it's all said and done. And the reality is, It's just it's unreal. It's not going to happen. Proof is in the pudding here of late. Those bunker buster bombs that only we have the capacity to not only make, but then deliver as well. The delivery system is is second to none. I mean, we've got the ability to put those things anywhere in the world. And if there's anything else, Bob, that I think came out of what happened. Over the weekend is not just the fact that whether we slowed down Iran for months or years, that'll that'll come out. I believe it's years, by the way. I think you can see some of the images and we'll talk about some of that, I'm guessing today as well. But I think it's longer than what the media right now is talking about from this leak that that came out. But, you know, you talk about the the things that we did on Saturday showing the rest of the world, you know. You screw around with us and you're going to find out exactly how big Uncle Sam actually is when it's all said and done, because we can do things no other country on planet Earth can do.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And by the way, to the point you're making there, you don't think Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin and others. And for that matter, Kim Jong-un, you don't think they're thinking of themselves right now. Oh, wait a minute. Donald Trump does not bluff. I mean, this is about as big as it gets.
SPEAKER 02 :
Doesn't bluff that country has more power than what we've ever thought of having. Yeah, we've got nuclear capabilities, but we don't have what they have to do things on a strategic basis because they just don't possess it. They don't. I was reading something the other day, guys, even on just the B-2 bomber. And while it could be replicated in other countries, it can't be manufactured in the exact same way we do it from the engines, to the skin, to how we do rivetless technology to put it together to make it more unseen by radar. On and on we go, guys. We have technology here no other country has, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And they are taking note of this that, wow, look what the United States was able to carry off, carry out without even having a bullet fired at their planes. Look what they were able to carry out with this kind of precision. And look at their willingness to To do something like this under Donald Trump, the guy is not a bluffer. So I think it's a powerful message. There are two birds killed with one stone. One, the direct hit on the nuclear facilities. But number two, the message sent around the world, which is to our enemies, I wouldn't mess with America, at least under Donald Trump. F-A-F-O. Right, right. What – Neil, what's your take on this? First of all, in a general sense, was this the right thing for Trump to do?
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. And I think people obviously are going to try to raise arguments that he should have shown more restraint and whatever. But he is a man of action. Pete Hegseth over the weekend, Secretary of Defense, of course, said, listen, I think what we've established here is that when Donald Trump speaks, the world needs to listen. And I give him credit. I think, honestly, just a mere fact we're attaching his name to it. Let me say this. Whoever the sitting president would have been right now, at this time in history, learning that Iran was a month away or maybe weeks away from getting nuclear capability, then whoever would have been president should have taken this action. I also think that it's likely only Donald Trump would have had the backbone to actually do it so quickly and so decisively. And I like that he kind of said somewhere in the next two weeks you might see some action. And then it was like within 24 hours or something. And I think there was some, you know, military deception involved. in trying to get people to think about down the road a little bit. I don't know how all that played out behind the scenes, but it was unbelievable, unprecedented what they were able to carry out. Undetected total air superiority over Iran. A lot of that, of course, came about because of Israel's attack on Iran previously, wiping out most of those air defense systems. But it was absolutely stunning and astounding and i do think it got the attention of the world including russia and china and i 100 supported i mean if somebody says look at i'm going to meet my friend at the bus station he's going to give me a gun and i'm going to go shoot the governor like right now and the person was outraged and you had reason to believe that that was going to happen then i think you have a responsibility to stop that individual from getting the gun and trying to shoot the governor like you know see something say something this is beyond that this is you got to take action Because if Iran actually got a nuclear weapon, they already said they're going to use it. They're trying to wipe Israel off the face of the map. They want to wipe the United States off the face of the map if they could. And action needed to be taken. So I'm 100% in favor of the fact that action was taken and lives were protected.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And by the way, when you talk about how some people are saying, oh, he should have shown more restraint, I don't know how he could have possibly shown more restraint than he actually did. If you think about it, this was a surgical strike specifically on nuclear facilities, and it was done in the middle of the night, okay, after midnight their time. And Trump didn't go after any of their energy infrastructure. He didn't go after any of their airports. He certainly didn't go after their civilians as Iran does when launching into Israel. He only went after the facility sites themselves, went in, got out, and then nothing additional. And when Iran went ahead and tried to attack U.S. military base in Qatar, and Qatar thankfully shot down those missiles, a little bit of damage done, but not much. Trump didn't even retaliate. Trump was like, all right, that's all right. Nobody got hurt. I let them get it out of their system, okay? To me, that was showing incredible restraint. And I got to say, John, too, one of the things that – That amazes me here in looking at this is the precision with which we carry this out. You know, Neil mentioned the deception tactics, which were very shrewd. Donald Trump says he floats the two weeks figure out there to kind of catch him off guard. You know, it's like the person who says, all right, I'm going to yank your tooth on the count of five. All right. One. One. Yank. OK. I mean, so he pulls that deception tactic. They have a bunch of their fighters fly out of Missouri West over the Pacific to make it look like, OK, they're just running random things. And he holds a banquet that night for the head of AI. And there's Trump at some some swanky event laughing and joking around. where in between times he's going down into the Situation Room to see what's happening with this. So everybody watching Trump from the world is like, all right, well, nothing's happening tonight. There he is at some swanky event and laughing and joking with people and whatever. Trump played this very cool. And I'll tell you who else deserves a lot of kudos. I just got to say this, John. Pete Hegseth, for all the talk. about Pete Hagseth. He's too young. He's only 45. He's in over his head. He's just a Fox News host. Hey, this guy's a 20-year military veteran. He's gone through the ranks from infantryman to an officer to a major. He was in battle in Iraq, in battle in Afghanistan, double Bronze Star recipient, double Army Commendation Medal recipient, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Combat Infantryman Badge, executive director of multiple veterans organizations, and by the way, really smart, sharp. Oh, and did I say born-again Christian? So I'm just kind of curious to see what's all the left going to say about Pete Hegseth is in over his head. Hey, this was a very skilled operation that was carried out.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, very skilled. I'll just say this. It wouldn't have happened under anybody else's command. I'll just say it. If Kamala was in office right now, let's just say that none of this would have happened whatsoever. And even if it had, it wouldn't have been carried out in the way that this has been done. I mean, this was, to your point, Bob, very surgical. And for all the people that are coming out now saying, well, did we really stop them? Are they just going to spin things up even faster now? Maybe they'll get to a bomb faster now. Do people really understand? Well, they don't. They don't understand what it takes to even, you know, spin the uranium into what needs to be done to even make it, you know, a weapons grade, you know, material at the end of the day. I don't think anybody really understands what that takes. That doesn't happen overnight when you damage or in this case, take out a facility that was doing that for you. The reality is rebuilding that, guys, that doesn't happen overnight. overnight, unless they've got some other hidden facilities around that they can move all of their, you know, they're not fully enriched, they're 60% enriched uranium, if they can move that someplace else. I just don't see that. Now, the bigger question probably is, you know, where is that? There's some folks coming out now saying, listen, we know there's, I believe there's 900 pounds of the 60% enriched. Where is that? I think that's the next big question is, okay, let's find it. Did they spin things down? Did they take that out? Did they do that before we actually you know, release those bombs on them? Those are questions right now, Bob, that we don't have answers to, and nobody should be speculating on that at this point. There'll be a lot of fact-finding, like Israel will do a lot to find out where those things are and what's going on there, and we'll know some of that, you know, in the weeks ahead. But, you know, do I feel like damage was done? Guys, it was done to the point that they're no longer babbling.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me jump in, too. There was an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal, I think it was today, might have been yesterday, but either way, it said, you know, how do we really know that Iran is serious about cooperating with a ceasefire now? You know, they traded a little bit of missile fire, you know, with Israel immediately after supposedly agreeing to the ceasefire, but... Maybe it was just firing off the final few rounds kind of thing. Either way, it looks like there's a ceasefire in place now. But the Wall Street Journal editorial board said Mr. Trump could offer two tests of the regime's willingness to change first. and I like this, said, will it grant the International Atomic Energy Agency's inspectors immediate access to examine its nuclear sites? If not, Iran has no intention of dismantling what remains, especially since it isn't clear how much enriched uranium Iran retains. That plays into what John just said. Second, will Iran publicly recognize Israel's right to exist and renounce its desire to wipe the Jewish state off the map? That's the Iranian regime's forever war. If its leaders won't renounce it, they aren't interested in peace. So, I mean, it goes on from there. But those are two key questions that we need to be looking at. So it isn't just, you know, wipe out Fordow and Natanz and Isfahan. and hope all is well, there has to be some level of accountability ongoing in the future. And I'm pretty sure that the United States is going to take that seriously. Israel for sure will take that seriously. And, you know, hopefully there's accountability in the future that indicates that this was not only a one-time decisive, you know, wiping out of Iran's nuclear capability, but it's a surrendering of their effort to gain nuclear weapons in the future. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, what do you, What do you make of the reports that the media right now especially is jumping on that maybe this wasn't that successful and such? I know there's this defense intel report that's saying that maybe it wasn't as successful as we're hearing or whatever. But we can't know that that's true. All we're looking at is basically the tops of mountains where the explosions would have gone underneath. But here's what I find interesting. I'm curious to get your take on this, John. Number one, why is it that the mainstream media and the Democrats seem to be salivating over the hope that this was not successful? It's almost as though they're rooting for Iran's nuclear facilities 260 feet down to still be intact because they hate Donald Trump so bad. And my thing is, let's pretend – Let's pretend that this intel is correct and we find out that there wasn't really that much damage done. OK, let's pretend that ends up being the case when the dust settles. Even if it was, Trump wasn't still right to try. It wasn't still right to give it an attempt and maybe consider going back and trying it again. I mean, I just it's like, John, they're rooting for Iran to have come out successful in this and Trump a failure.
SPEAKER 02 :
Still goes back to what we talk about a lot on this program and on our daily programs as well, the three of us. It's good versus evil, and you can definitely see right now who is on what side. They literally, Bob, to your point, they're rooting for the evil party here being Iran, which, again, folks, it doesn't take much to figure out who's good versus evil when you look at their core principles and their guiding belief system, if you would. I mean, their whole ideal is to wipe out everyone possible If you don't believe in their way, you're dead, period. That's just how they look at it. Plain and simple, folks. If you don't believe me, go look it up yourself. That's exactly how it works. So, yeah, Bob, to your point, these are Democrats. These are Marxists. I'm not going to call them Democrats anymore. These are Marxist individuals that want to see the destruction of the United States of America. They don't care by what means that happens to the point that they'll even root for the enemy. And that's exactly what's happening right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
I hate to see it. Neil, what's your take on that? Because it does seem as though there's a lot of rooting for the enemy in this case that they're salivating over the possibility of maybe it wasn't that successful. Maybe it wasn't that successful. It's like, why in the world would they be trying to find the negative in this? It just shows me that's how much they actually really hate Donald Trump more than they hate the idea of Iran having a nuclear weapon.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, I mean, I think you're right about everything you're saying. Let me just add how grateful I am for Senator John Fetterman, a Democrat from Pennsylvania with Jewish roots, coming out and saying he did the right thing and applauding Donald Trump for doing what he's doing. At least somebody had the gumption to tell the truth because everybody else, you know, obviously is they're tipping their hand. They're showing exactly what they're all about. And that is they're anti Donald Trump. And in so doing, they're anti America. Ultimately, how could anybody be happy about the fact that Iran that has intent to use nuclear weapons to wipe out Israel and potentially the United States if they had the right, you know, intercontinental ballistic missile to do it? that that somehow that would be a good thing. It's twisted. It's demented. It's wrong. And I'm just I'm glad that you pointed it out. I think it's worth spending a minute to just focus on that reality. That's that's what our Democratic Party is basically about today.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And by the way, Neil, we've got a lot more to talk about this, obviously, coming up in the second half as well. Like, for example, the congressional approval. Is it true that Donald Trump violated the Constitution and had to go through Congress to get approval to launch these strikes? We'll talk about that. And even some like AOC saying that he ought to be impeached for this and an article of impeachment actually introduced. Thankfully, 128 Democrats sided with the Republicans to say, no, I don't think so, Scooter. But Neil, we wouldn't be able to do this podcast if not for our sponsors. And we appreciate our sponsors very much like SunPowerLED.
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Continue in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with all of the guys. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. As we talk about all things involving the U.S., Iran, and Israel. the strikes of President Trump into the Fordow facility, as well as those other two nuclear facilities as well. I believe that this was the right thing to do, a necessary thing to do. Inaction would have been way more dangerous. Do we find out that this was successful or not? Or is Donald Trump overplaying the success of this? Is the media overplaying underplaying the success of this. We'll wait and find out. Either way, it was a good and noble effort to do. And I think it makes the world a safer place. And at a minimum, it sends a message to our enemies around the world that the United States is not to be trifled with, not under Donald Trump. He doesn't bluff. So I think that's a positive thing. But we're hearing a lot of talk about the congressional approval question. And so, John, let me start with you on this when it comes to so-called congressional approval. Here's what we got to remember. And I just want to lay this out for listeners who maybe aren't aware, okay? There are two laws that are on the books right now, the War Powers Act and the Authorization for Use of Military Force Act. Right. Both of these are laws. They passed Congress. They are officially the law and they're in place right now. The War Powers Act is is not an approval through Congress Act. It's a notification of Congress Act. If you read the War Powers Act, what it says is that a president is allowed to launch military strikes. That's right. On his own. What he's not allowed to do is he's not allowed to officially declare war on behalf of the United States, but that doesn't mean he can't launch military strikes. However, he does have to notify Congress within 60 days, and then he has 30 more days to wind down the conflict before getting approval from Congress. So the War Powers Act gives the president the authority to actually launch strikes against somebody for 90 days before having to get approval from Congress. Then you get to the AUMF, which is the Authorization for Use of Military Force. This is terrorism related. It came after 9-11. And this says... The president is allowed to use military strikes if it's for the purpose of going after people that we're connected to or affiliated with 9-11 or to prevent future terrorist attacks. And when we're looking at Iran, the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and they're getting ready to go nuclear, clearly this falls under the AUMF. And one final thing I'll throw out there. When Bill Clinton was president, Bill Clinton launched missile strikes and military strikes against not one country like Iran, but against five countries, Afghan, Sudan, Khartoum, as well as Kosovo and Yugoslavia. And nobody claimed that Bill Clinton was violating the Constitution. Barack Obama invoked the AUMF four different times when he launched weapons militarily into Afghanistan, into Pakistan, into Libya, into Yemen, into Somalia, into Iraq, and into Syria. Every one of those times... Barack Obama did not one peep from any Democrat saying, hey, he didn't go through Congress for this. By the way, even Joe Biden did this one time himself in Iraq. So Donald Trump suddenly, John, it's a different set of rules. He needs to be impeached because he didn't go through Congress. It is absolutely dishonestly absurd.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, it's absurd, and they proved that yesterday, and you talked about it earlier in the first half, the vote that they just had. Unfortunately, there are – yeah, there's about 70 – what, 74 knuckleheads that don't understand what you just said, but the rest of Congress and the representatives at least understand how this works. And to your point, Bob, there's been many, many, many different examples throughout the years since World War II. Actually – The actual war powers and the declaration of war hasn't happened since World War II, yet we've had all sorts of different conflicts and things that we as a country have been involved in. And I would argue that in this particular case, what we did was end a war, not start a war. This is actually the opposite of what a lot of people are accusing Donald Trump of doing, Bob and Neil. He actually did something that ended that war in a matter of about 48 hours afterwards. He didn't start anything. It didn't get us into World War III like everybody was predicting on Saturday. All those libertarians I was talking about in the first half, they were all claiming, oh, it'll be World War III. They're going to retaliate. Iran's going to open up all their sleeper cells now and on and on and on. It's just going to be the total destruction of planet Earth. Nothing could have been farther from the truth. Nothing is farther from the truth. And no, Donald Trump didn't need to do anything differently than what he did to get the job done.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, it was supposed to be World War III when he moved the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. And that didn't happen. It was supposed to be World War III when he ordered the taking out of Qasem Soleimani in Iran. And, gee, what do you guess? That didn't happen either. So, no, this is not going to be World War III. Neil, I want to get your take on this in just a moment. But before we do, I want to remind everybody that this podcast is sponsored, and we very much appreciate you folks supporting the sponsors of this podcast, like SunPowerLED, like Preborn. Remember, Preborn saves babies' lives by showing ultrasound images of unborn babies to expectant moms in pro-life centers all across the country. We're asking you folks to pay for these ultrasound images. So it's very simple, folks. You can go online to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn, and you can give right there. And what you're doing is you're paying for ultrasound images. Now, if you can buy an ultrasound machine, we would love that. Some of you need to do that. They're 15 grand apiece. It's a nice tax write-off for you. And you get to go to bed every night knowing that you're literally stopping thousands of abortions year after year. What a great legacy. Now, if you can't do that, would you pay for an individual number of ultrasound images? Take $28. That's the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion. Take $28 times fill in the blank. Pray about a number. Whatever that number is, that's your forever legacy of the amount of abortions that you're stopping. And don't forget, 100% of what you give to Preborn goes to the ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That's all covered by private donors. So give right now by going to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. Or give over the phone, and the answer to the phone is 24-7. So you can call right now, 833-850-BABY, 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. And, you know, Neil, when people go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, they can click on Preborn. We also wanted to click on SunPowerLED and find out what this photobiomodulation, this light therapy, really can do for them.
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So as we continue talking about the the attacks on Iran and President Trump ordering these strikes. Let me just simplify. And Neil, I would like to get your take also on the claims from some that he needs to be impeached for this. Congressman Al Green saying, oh, hey, I'm introducing articles of impeachment. Thankfully, and by the way, can I say surprisingly, you had 128 Democrats that joined the Republicans To shoot this down, saying, no, we are not going to move forward with any kind of impeachment. So you had 79 Democrats who said, yo, let's go forward with it. But what do we what do we make of the fact that, as I mentioned before, Bill Clinton. launched military strikes on not one, not two, but five different countries under the War Powers Act. He didn't go through Congress. No Democrats were saying that – no Democrats, no media, nobody was saying, oh, how dare he do this. Barack Obama launched military strikes on seven different countries – Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan, and Pakistan – And by the way, you can look this up yourself. I just read to you from CNN, September 23rd, 2014, with the headline, quote, countries bombed by the U.S. under the Obama administration. So and then even Joe Biden without going through Congress and every one of those seven from Obama, he didn't go through Congress for any of them. So I just, Neil, I don't know what else to call it other than just outright dishonesty for these Democrats and for the media to be questioning whether or not Donald Trump violated the Constitution somehow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's just annoying. It's like, you know, the snotty-nosed kid brother that won't leave you alone keeps tugging on your pant leg or something. I mean, the bottom line is that Democrats hate Donald Trump, at least most of them, and they'll do anything they possibly can to raise the issue that, you know, maybe he should be impeached for what? For everything. It doesn't matter what he does. They want to see Donald Trump out. This is going nowhere. It's a bunch of noise. It's an aggravation. But let me say something else. January 19th, 2017, it was the very last thing Obama did when he was in office. He ordered B-2 bombers, just like what happened over the weekend, to go to Libya. You talked about this earlier, but the date was interesting, like last day in office. And they bombed Libya. And you're 100% right. Not one person in the Democratic Party tried to stop that or in any way said that it was unconstitutional. So you see... the inconsistency there, the hypocrisy ultimately, and there's no logic to what they're talking about. I mean, some conservative commentators are bringing this up. You're never going to see it from the legacy media, but the reality is they hold Donald Trump to a different standard because of their seething hatred for Donald Trump and what he represents. And I'm not surprised by any of it, but I also don't believe it's going to go anywhere, especially with the level of support that he has received from Democrats. And at least, you know, you might say, well, it's not outright support. Yeah, but you had quite a few that said, we're not going to proceed with any kind of impeachment because they see the handwriting on the wall. This was a correct action. And let's move on to other things. They're not going to win this war. So why start it? Right.
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Let's talk about whether or not Donald Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. You know, I think back to when Barack Obama was first elected. And if you guys remember this, Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize before he did anything as president, just on the anticipation that he would bring about peace. And he ended up... militarily attacking seven different countries in the meantime. But with Donald Trump, this isn't just about, oh, I'm a Trump supporter, so give him an award, give him the Nobel Peace Prize. Hey, give him an Academy Award. No. I would argue if this were any president other than Donald Trump, there's not a chance in the world that he wouldn't have the Nobel Peace Prize. And I want to throw out some examples of why I say this. Number one, Look at the Pakistan-India war. They very nearly got into a full-fledged war. They were launching missiles at each other, and they're both nuclear powers. And Trump jumped right into that, talked to both sides, and negotiated a ceasefire between them. He really did actually avert a war between two powerful nuclear nations. Add to that... the Abraham Accords in his first term, no president has ever gotten more than one Middle East peace deal in their presidency, and only two presidents have even gotten one. Everybody else is goose-egged, yet Donald Trump got four Middle East peace deals in his first term, and he's now working on additional peace deals. Add to that Iran- now presumably is not a nuclear threat, at least for the time being. They were on the verge of getting a nuclear bomb, and that hasn't happened. And you get Israel and Iran in an actual bona fide war with each other, launching missiles at each other's countries. Trump gets in and negotiates a ceasefire between the two of them after just 12 days. And so when the dust settles here, We're going to have a situation where Iran doesn't have the nuclear capabilities anymore. They are in a ceasefire with Israel. There are already four Middle East peace deals with Israel that he's already got under his belt. Pakistan and India are not going to war with each other. And John, I got to tell you, if this were anybody, any president named anything other than Trump, I don't know how this would not be a Nobel Peace Prize. By the way, if I could just say one more thing about this, NATO, even the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Root, even he – praised Trump this week during the NATO conference saying, quote, I just want to recognize your decisive action on Iran. You are a man of strength. You are also a man of peace. And the fact that you are now also successful in getting this ceasefire done between Israel and Iran, I really want to commend you for that. I think this is important for the whole world. And then he also praised Trump for convincing NATO nations to increase their military spending to 5 percent of GDP. And the secretary general of NATO just said to Trump this week, quote, This is something that Trump has achieved, something that, quote, no American president in decades could get done. All right. So peace through strength in NATO as well. I don't think you have to be a Trumpster to say he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. I got to be honest with you. If I was anti-Trump, I'd be saying, but in all fairness, this is the one thing he deserves.
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I agree. And the other frustrating thing to kind of tie into this, Bob, is, again, some of the conversations I've had with some of the – Marjorie Taylor Greene, you've seen some of her comments have been about what we were doing in Iran and so on. And it's like we've got part of the party even that – I don't know how to say it, Bob. They're just knuckleheads. They're not looking at this correctly. They're they're in a way, you know, against Trump. And it's like, wait a minute. So so you're saying that because which, by the way, I have a problem with because your guy did something that you didn't particularly care for. You're now going to be against the quote unquote mega movement. It's like, wait a minute. Are we are we in this for the movement or are we in this for one individual? And if you're in it for just one individual, you're in it for all the wrong reasons anyways, Bob.
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That's a great point. Which, by the way, can I just say, John, I have now caught myself in the last several weeks on two different occasions during my show here in Detroit referring to people as knuckleheads. This is your fault. I'm like, what is with these knuckleheads? And then I sit there and I go, oh, John, you're killing me. And then I'll tell my audience, you know what? Inside, you folks don't even know what I'm talking about.
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That's right. That's right. My mom, growing up, she used to say, Neal, choose your friends carefully because eventually you will become what they are. That's right, Neal. I know.
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I know. None of us wanted to become our dad, OK? I never wanted to become John. But, you know, what are you going to do? Here we go. What's your take on this, though? Nobel Peace Prize. Honestly, Neil, I think a lot of people that even softly support Trump. are afraid to say with their outside voice that he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize because they're afraid of perceived as now being a MAGA cultist somehow. And I got news for you. My opinion is not based on that. If Barack Obama accomplished everything Trump has accomplished in this way, I would say I can't stand his policies, but he does deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Well, I mean, I say this very tongue-in-cheek. I want to be clear about it. But for all the reasons that Bruce Jenner, quote, you know, that Caitlyn Jenner, after the transition, became woman of the year, Glamour Magazine's woman of the year, Trump would automatically win this if he announced he was transitioning, period. Now, that's all tongue-in-cheek. But let's get back to reality for a second. I mean, he's... He's probably the most loved and hated person on the planet. And I'll go back to like the 2016 election. I don't believe it was. There's always corruption everywhere. There's corruption. And who knows? And I'm not going to argue about whether it was stolen right now. But what my argument has been in the past is that that more Republicans came out and voted for him than than ever before in history. but that more Democrats came out as well to vote against him. And I don't know. I'm not going to argue. My point is simply this. He's a very polarizing figure. So you're going to have a lot of people that agree with what you're saying here. He's so polarizing. I can't imagine anybody would actually do it. But I do agree with you, Bob. He deserves it. He absolutely deserves it for all the reasons you described.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't think people are really – grasping the change in the entire world. It doesn't mean he's ushering in world peace, okay? No. I mean, ultimately, we're never going to have complete peace until the Prince of Peace, okay, returns and finishes all things. But I'm just saying in an earthly sense, in an earthly sense, there's no denying the fact that look at North Korea. You don't see saber rattling from them right now, do you? They're not launching missiles over Japanese airspace right now. They're just not doing that. Look at China. China's like, all right, we've been eyeballing Taiwan, but they're not really moving in any direction. Look at Russia, Vladimir Putin, okay? He's actually engaging somewhat in peace negotiations with Ukraine, although that's difficult, certainly. And as far as Iran and Israel, Iran and Israel, 12-day war, and now they're in a ceasefire. And then when the dust settles, how do you take out Just think of it this way. Go back a month and imagine sitting around and saying, could it be possible that we could take out the nuclear facilities in Iran by bombing them from the U.S. and from Israel and And somehow we don't end up in a Middle East war. And if anything else, we have Middle Eastern nations that are still in talks with us about Middle East peace deals on top of that. I don't think anybody could have imagined something along those lines. And somehow Trump has been able to pull this off without any loss of life. And I just I don't know how to how to say this is anything other than Nobel Peace Prize kind of stuff. So I think he deserves a lot of kudos there. Where do you think this goes from here? I mean, John, your best guess, how does this end up playing out, do you think?
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Well, and I told everybody on my show that, you know, A, this will all be in the rearview mirror here in a matter of days. If not, you know, right after the Independence Day holiday and we get through the four-day weekend, three-day weekend, whatever it is, rearview mirror, things will be – and there will be more things coming out as to, you know, how much damage was done and this, that, and the other. But the reality is, you know, either way, despite what someone would be saying right now, Iran has been set back, in my opinion – in a great, great way. If nothing else, they have been shown that, you know what, you keep doing this and, you know, keep messing around, you're going to find out how this ends and it's not going to end well. I think to the point earlier, it shows a lot of the other countries, you know, our strength and that we're, you know, to China, to Russia, to others that, you know, we're not messing around. We're not dinking around here. If something isn't going the way it's supposed to, we're going to take care of it. I think you're going to see You know, in my opinion, I, again, never know what's going to, you know, I'm not a crystal ball, don't know what's going to happen around the corner, you know, guys. But in my opinion, as far as the rest of countries are concerned and some of the battles that may have ensued, I think you're going to see a time where there's, you know, relative peace for a while. Now, is it going to be all peace everywhere? Of course not. Men are human. You know, we're all sinful. There's things that are going to happen along those lines. And just because of what happened this past weekend doesn't mean that all things end. But I do think that in a lot of cases, guys, it's going to tame down immensely. And again, we're going to continue to find out more and more of what's going on. And then, honestly, what happens next? Donald Trump is going to really focus back on our economy. You know he's already battling Jerome Powell. There's all sorts of things going on there when it comes to the Fed and our own economy here. And I think you're going to see Donald Trump, who for a little bit of time had some other things on his plate he had to deal with. But I think Donald Trump gets back to the task at hand, which is getting the country and the economy and the things here back on track so that, frankly, we've got midterms coming up next year, which will be his next big focus.
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And the ironic thing here is that for all the talk about Donald Trump either being chicken out or a warmonger somehow, it's exactly the opposite. One thing that is woven into Donald – actually, there's two things woven into Donald Trump's DNA, in my honest opinion, that's naturally who he is. Number one, love of America above all things. And number two, a desire not to get involved – in military conflicts around the world unless it's absolutely necessary to save lives in America and Israel and around the rest of the world. And in that regard, I think Trump's doing a great job in this. I really do. Even though I didn't like him using the F-bomb on TV the other day when he was upset with Israel. He was wrong about that. But still, I think some people see a kind of authenticity that comes out of him that what he's thinking he says.
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Showed you his frustration with those two countries not abiding by what he had set up for them to do.
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I know, and you know what? And I agree with you.
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I wouldn't have said that because that's not the language that I use, but reality, Bob, is I think he made his point.
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You know what? He did, and I think people appreciate going, you know what? What he thinks is what he says.
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And by the way, he was correct in what he said. These guys have no idea what they're doing. They've been at this now for X amount of days, and the reality is they don't know what they're doing.
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Well, you know what? Next time if Trump says, you know what, these guys are just being knuckleheads, then we know that he's listening to your show. There we go. There in Denver. Folks, it is John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron live out of Buffalo, New York. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show. out of Detroit. It's always great having you folks listen to us. Thank you so much. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. Click on SunPowerLED. Get some information about these great organizations from them. We look forward to next week and our special July 4th podcast episode. And John, Neil, great talking with you guys. Thanks a lot.
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So yesterday, well, a couple of things. I'm seeing headlines that are saying that the attack on the nuclear facilities in Iran did not happen. did not actually take out the nuclear capability of Iran. And that very well may be the case. I've got to think that, yes, it did cripple those facilities significantly. But who knows for sure. We've got mainstream media out there trying to maybe discount the success of that particular mission. I think that it was successful, and the fact that they crippled it for sure is successful. Of course, then Iran lobbed some missiles over towards some of the U.S. bases in the Middle East. Which, of course, they're going to have to do that. They have to save face to do something like that. I was talking with one of our listeners yesterday, and she really looks at things. She's got a mind where she can look. look at things and say, gosh, could this happen? She's really several steps ahead of all of us. And the real risk probably are these sleeper cells now that are in our country. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that that's very possible with the millions of people that came across the border under the Biden-Harris administration. And so that certainly is a big risk. And with that, I found a headline. And that is ICE arrests Iranian nationals in Colorado Springs. Apparently there were Iranian nationals throughout the country. Two of them were down in Colorado Springs. Of course, Colorado Springs has significant military presence. With Fort Carson and now I'm drawing a blank on NORAD with all of that down there. And so we do we do need to be vigilant. I don't know what that means exactly for each of us as America as everyday Americans as we go about our lives. But I do think that that is a significant risk for sure. Let's see. Next thing, I did go out to Kiowa, Elbert County. Hour drive out, hour drive back. It is God's country. They've been getting a lot of rain. It is absolutely gorgeous out there. But I went out for the county commissioner's hearing regarding Excel presenting on transmission lines on a transmission corridor. And true to form, when I was on city council, I learned that this looks like a strategy. First, staff presents the project. And again, they're paid, paid staff. You've got all the paid Excel people. And then you've got all of the citizens there that have to sit through all this. So that took an hour for staff to present the project. application now bear in mind the application by excel is incomplete uh and then excel presents and a big rainstorm came through there was a 10 minute recess because of the rain excel presents so that's another hour and a half so the one o'clock meeting we're now into 3 30 ish And at that time, then we start to hear public comment. And it reminded me of the Norman Rockwell painting of the common man. Let me see if I can get that of the common man. And this guy with it's a a. a portrait of a man who is taking time off. He's clearly a everyday person taking time off. Here we go. It's a freedom of speech. It's the freedom of speech is, um, um, by Norman Rockwell, and you have this citizen. He's clearly working. He's taken time off to go to a meeting, and he's making his voice heard. And there were so many people that made their voices heard concerned about the takings of their land. And Xcel Energy, even though their application is incomplete – None of the electricity, I have that in air quotes, that they're going to be transmitting across these lines benefits Albert County whatsoever. Then they actually have already started to reach out and serve condemnation, eminent domain papers to people in Albert County as well with an application that is not complete. So I encouraged, I sat there for a long time, and thought I needed to make comments as well. And let me just share some of the initial comments that I said. I said that owning property is foundational to the American idea, and your responsibility as county commissioners is to protect the property rights of the people of Elbert County. You do not represent Xcel Energy. I said that there are these two key issues, protecting property rights, then the eminent domain, Apparently, in eminent domain, land cannot be taken without just compensation. But again, listening to the testimony of a number of these people, it sounds like there's lowball offers on this land. So that's not just compensation. And then taking land which is tangible. and typically increases in value, and paying people in dollars, which because of inflation has declining value, is a real assault upon property rights. And so I asked the commissioners to understand that they're representative of the people, protect the people's rights, and to do the right thing and deny the application. Apparently all of the public was able to make comments. 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Well, absolutely. And I know I brag about our board on a regular basis, but it's a pretty amazing group of people. And as we sit around the table and talk about these issues that are down at the statehouse, and we're going to start to look at ballot questions as well, I really feel blessed to... To work with these all-volunteer group, it kind of reminds me of the founding fathers as we kick the ideas around about, you know, is this the proper role of government? How does this affect the taxpayer? Is this protecting TABOR, our Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, property rights, parental rights with school choice? I really am just blessed to sit around the table with all of you.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I also enjoy the camaraderie that we have. It does kind of remind us of the days of the early founding of our country when they sat around in public places and discussed, you know, the policies of the day and how they were going to address the encroachment by the monarchy on their freedoms and their liberties without any representation. And we kind of feel like we're in the same situation a lot of times as we discussed what's going on with the current state of affairs with our uniparty control of state government.
SPEAKER 12 :
True that. And let me just give the names of our fellow board members. And when people see them, say thank you. And that is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, you, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. We'd recommend that people join us. It's only $25 a year. We're working on our ratings report. And let's talk about something that you and I are both concerned about, and that is the attack on Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, which is an amendment that was passed by the people of Colorado. It's an amendment to our Constitution, and it basically... wants to keep government limited in its proper role. And PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats on both sides of the aisle, do not want to have to try to stay within the constraints of what Tabor says. And so there's a real assault upon that. And we saw that with a... House Joint Resolution 25-1023, which was – wanted to repeal Tabor, which I'm not sure that they can because Tabor is an amendment to the Constitution. But anyway, they floated that resolution, Rob.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. And, you know, we look back that Tabor has been under assault, well, probably almost since the very incipiency of it back in the early 90s when it got into – state law. But we see that repeatedly, usually, and I suppose there's some folks from the GOP side of the aisle that would be sympathetic to ideas of reform or even repeal. But it's been primarily from the one party that is in control of our state. That's the Democrat Party. They don't want any constraints on how they spend the taxpayers' money. And Tabor is not some radical far-out concept of just trying to crimp the power of government. It's a matter of constraining and giving guidelines. It allows for growth with inflation numbers, with population. It allows for a measured, reasonable budget and for expenditures. So it's not some wild and crazy piece of legislation that's been enshrined in the Constitution. And the last I saw, around 70% of the states taxpayers as a whole approve of the whole concept of TABOR. And I think even more would once they understand how TABOR is formulated and how it's enshrined in the Constitution and what it actually does. It doesn't constrict or eliminate government expenditures. It just puts reasoned constraints on it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and again, and true. And TABOR is really about three things. And TABOR stands for Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. It's one if if PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties want to raise our taxes, they have to ask us if they want to incur debt that we the people have to pay off. They just have to ask us. And then lastly, and you mentioned if government growth, government can grow with this formula of population plus inflation, anything above that, the excess revenues that they've taken from us. I should say that the excess money that they have taken from us, if they want to keep it, they just have to ask us and we vote on it. That all seems really common sense to me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it is very common sense, Kim. And I think that's why such a high percentage of the voting public approves of Tabor, which given the statistics, there's got to be a fair amount of people that would consider themselves an alliance with the party that's in power. And yet when they understand what's going on with how monies are gathered and how they're expended, They agree with the whole concept of TABOR. It's limited restraint on just unbridled government growth. And I know that one of our taxpayers' heroes, Penn Fisner, had mentioned back in 2019 when there was a direct assault on TABOR that here in Jefferson County, which is kind of a flashpoint for a lot of things, good, bad, or otherwise, but he had mentioned that the county had taken in Thousands of dollars, probably millions, I don't have the exact amount in front of me, more than what they were allowed under Tabor, and they're giving it back. That didn't mean that we were restricting what they could spend. It just means we were putting a fiscal control and restraint on what they were doing. We weren't cutting services. We just weren't going with unbridled expenditures and growth of services.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and Rob Knuth, on this House Joint Resolution 251023, and it failed, but they'll try it again. Forty-three Democrats sponsored the resolution, including, this is from an article from Complete Colorado by, I better give credit here, I want to make sure I do that, by Brittany Trujillo. And this was Senator Kyle Mullica, Representatives Lorena Garcia and Representative Manny Rutanel, who is Manny has Rutanel has announced that he's running for Congressional District eight. I think it's important that people vote. connect the dot that here is someone that basically in repealing Tabor, I think what these PBIs are saying, these politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties is we don't want to constrain government and we want all your money. I think that's basically what they're saying. And I think it's important to connect that dot that Rutindel is now running for a federal office, congressional district eight.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. In a matter of public, we need to stay vigilant and stay engaged. And the final line of that article that you've referenced from Ms. Trujillo, she says it is critical that we all remain vigilant, educate our communities, and hold lawmakers accountable. Because in Colorado, power belongs with the people, not the political class. And that's the whole concept. The legislators on the other side of the aisle seem to resent having to give accountability to the taxpayer, which is the pool of money that they work to spend. It comes from the taxpayer, and they resent that. They just want unbridled authorization to do as they please.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and Rob, to be fair, as we have watched all of this legislation and hats off to our team, out of 766 pieces of legislation right around there or resolutions that were introduced this last legislative session, there's no way that our legislators can read all those bills and know what is in them and think about the consequences of those pieces of legislation. But the however is, is we also saw Republicans put their names on pieces of legislation that undercut Tabor. And we saw a variety of pieces of legislation. It might be maybe a few hundred thousand dollars here or a few million here. taking cuts at Tabor. And what that means is they're trying to take some of that money out of what's called a Tabor calculation, where you're looking at money that should be returned to the people. They want to take that calculation, take that off the table. And so undercut TABOR in that way, it's been a strategy that's been very frustrating. And it was so frustrating when I look at this and I see Republicans have their names on pieces of legislation that is undercutting TABOR. Your final thoughts on this, Rob, and thank you for all the great work that you do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thank you, Kim. No, I enjoy being involved with pardon me, with CUTT. And the more I'm involved and the longer the time, I recognize the value of what our organization does and what it has meant to the taxpayers here in Colorado. And I'm appreciative for the people that came up with the original concept 49 years ago to have cut and to institute it. And for those that have sustained our organization over the years, it just gets back to a matter of we need to retain vigilance. And the people that we would more often politically align with, they have to be held to account as well when they're getting out of line and kind of getting divorced from the grassroots and the whole concept of Tabor. It's not that we don't believe in growth and we're not trying to eliminate some growth of government. It's to do it in a reasoned, responsible manner. And Tabor is a mechanism that provides for that. And it's a protection to the taxpayers, not a hindrance.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well said, Rob Knuth. And thank you so much. You are the vice president of CUT, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And thank you for all the great work that you do.
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Thank you, Kim. And we wish you well. And thank you for providing great educational insight on a daily basis, Monday through Friday.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And as you know, I mention on a regular basis the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And Drew Dix, who is a Medal of Honor recipient, is a co-founder. He has started a podcast series, which I really need to get that on my repertoire because I always learn so much when Drew speaks. His most recent one has just been posted regarding domestic insurrection. and that was just posted 17 minutes ago. And check it out. You can find that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org, and then it's going through the rotating banner there. Also, they'll be doing a celebration on July 4th, our Independence Day. That information is at the website as well, which is AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Dr. Jill Vecchio. She's retired now, but she was one of the few people in America that read the complete Obamacare bill and had a deep understanding of that was trying to move us towards socialized medicine. And we look at our health care system now, and it feels broken. You're afraid to go to the hospital or the doctor because you will get a bill for thousands of dollars. But yet that's a bit of a, I don't know what word I want to use. I'm going to let Dr. Jill Vecchio tell me what word I want to use on that. Welcome. It's a scam. Hi. Hi, everybody. Hope everybody out there is doing well. Yeah. Well, and Jill, this health care system is broken. People know it. But yet I think people have, they're fearful if something happens, some big health care event happens in their lives, I think they're really concerned about what that would look like for them. And so people know that health care is broken. Why? Why?
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, wow. Well, we've allowed it to be broken over time. And the biggest problem is government took over, right? The minute we passed the Medicare law, everybody understand. And we kind of go over this once in a while. But there's something happened yesterday. But that's exactly I mean, I wanted to talk about something else today. But then I ran across this press conference that RSK Jr. and Dr. Oz had. about some big meeting they had with some insurance companies, which is exactly what you just brought up now. So I want to kind of touch on that, but go back to the Constitution of the United States, the 10th Amendment. The U.S. government was never granted the authority to oversee health care in our Constitution, which means that according to the 10th Amendment of the Constitution, it's up to the states and the people. to determine their own health care coverage, not the government. Medicare is unconstitutional. Oh, wow. What a shocker. But nobody ever challenged it. Congress passed the act. Then they included Medicaid. So now it runs entire, all of our health care in our country is some way or another tied right back to the government and to Medicare.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, Jill, in our deal, we started in radio together. And one of the things that I learned from you, you said that when government gets involved, the supply becomes limited, the cost goes up, and the quality goes down.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. And now we've got the government, Medicare, because it was so onerous and difficult and expensive for the government to administrate a program that they put in place. Now they've outsourced it to private industry. Well, at first, that wasn't such a bad thing because private industry did a pretty good job with patient care. Well, that's devolved over the last couple of decades, especially since Obamacare, when everybody had to have this massive coverage. And they changed all the mandates for insurance policies. So the insurance policies became so expensive. all of that trickled down from medicare so the uh private insurance policies like we talked about you know i was paying something like twenty thousand dollars a year for my husband and i with an eight thousand dollar deductible most of the time we didn't even use our insurance when i had my first cancer my kidney cancer i had paid twenty eight thousand dollars in uh eight thousand dollar deductible And the insurance for my, what the insurance reimbursed the hospital, physicians, labs, everything for my kidney cancer was less than my premium for that whole year. So don't tell me that we have to pay all this money for insurance that, number one, most of us don't even use because of the high deductible. right every year do you even touch do you even tap into except for maybe a free mammogram that's included in your insurance and it's not free right so the whole system our whole mindset has to change why are we letting these companies so even though i've given them all this money and they paid out less than what i gave him for in just in that one year when i had a cancer okay so they've been making hundreds of thousands of dollars on me okay and i'm still okay with them telling me what i can and can't have folks ask yourself this question that's a pretty darn good question don't you think it is letting them have all this control so so jrfk and dr oz had a press conference and i found it on on youtube yesterday Yesterday? Yesterday. Yeah, so they had a big powwow, big, great big meeting. Oh, it was so powerful with the CEOs or whatever, the executives of the six or seven biggest health care companies that cover Medicare Advantage, which is part of Medicare outpatient treatment stuff. That's been outsourced by the government to Medicare. The private industries like Kaiser, Cigna, Blue Cross Blue Shield. So those are the kinds of guys that were sitting at this table with secretary of HHS and all these, you know, politicians and senators and crap, right? Doesn't that make you feel warm and fuzzy? Oh, I'm so much more confident now that you're going to do a good job, right? Okay. So they met with these guys and the big healthcare people decided to be magnanimous and make a new pledge. to the american people they are going to have more timely access for patients for treatments they're going to have more efficiency and less red tape they're going to have more transparency and accountability what's your first reaction to that well why weren't they doing it in the first place and how long is that going to last are they ever going to do it They had a press conference say, we're going to do this. How about having a press conference tell me you already did it? And how are you going to enforce it? And it's voluntary, not mandatory. And this was all about pre-authorization. Sorry, I should have said that. They were addressing the problems of pre-authorization for procedures. Now, I'm sorry, when my insurance barely covers anything, number one, why do I even need a pre-authorization? And don't they always say, even though this is a pre-authorization, it doesn't assure payment, right? So it's kind of like, even though you have an authorization, and as a physician, you know, I've seen both sides of this. Even though you have an authorization, there's no guarantee. They can always come back and say, oh, you didn't quite do this right. Oh, in looking back at it, No, we're not really going to pay that. Oh, our policy changed. Who knows? So, oh, yeah. So they're going to try to streamline and minimize the red tape and bureaucracy involved in preauthorizing procedures and treatments and diagnostic procedures and testing. So we're going to streamline the preauthorization. Because people, you know, we know that people have died because we've been bureaucratic you-know-what. And people have died because of our preauthorization policy. Okay, so that's what they were addressing.
SPEAKER 12 :
So they have people have died because of that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes. Yes. People have died. Wow. Because they didn't get, oh, because, well, and somebody told a story, I think it was RFK Jr., told a story about a surgeon friend of his that does transplant, cardiac transplant surgeries. And there was a patient who literally was on the operating table to get his heart transplant. And the insurance company, in order, they were waiting for the heart to arrive. The guy needed to be put on an external heart machine in order to stay alive until the heart arrived and they could do the transplant. The guy was on the operating table, the patient. The insurance company refused. They had approved the transplant surgery, but they did not approve, they did not authorize the use of this machine, which would mean it's like you don't have one, you can't have one without the other. But naturally, they're playing their little games. Something like 80% or 85% of all claims or requests for preauthorization are denied initially. 85%. It's a game they play, right? They don't even look at it. Most of the time it's just a numbers game. It's just automatically kicked out. That's what they do. There are a lot of whistleblowers that talk about this. So they get their little game. So this guy is on the table. His life depends on this one machine. They won't authorize it. So the treatment team, the surgeon and his team go, well, we're not going to let this patient die. So they went ahead and put him on the machine. The insurance company sued the physician. No. Sued him. Yes. No. Sued him. Wow. Well, they ended up dropping the case, but, you know, I'm sorry, but how much money did that surgeon have to spend? How much stress and anxiety just for doing the right thing for a patient? I mean, it's kind of like what they should have done is countersued the insurance company. The insurance company should have had some kind of legal ramifications for that kind of treatment of a patient. But no, the insurance company goes on the offensive and sues the surgeon for doing the right thing for the patient.
SPEAKER 12 :
Which the message, and I'm sure that message reverberates throughout the medical community, which makes the next time something presents itself, that doctor is going to question what they should do. And I had chosen for our quote of the day, quotes from hypocrisies. Yeah. Yeah, is that how you say it? Hippocrates. Yeah, Hippocrates. Hippocrates. Yeah, the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. And I'm not sure that that's being taught. We actually did a show on that one time, Dr. Jill Vecchio. But let's figure out if there's a way that we can fix this, because I know you are about solutions. And so we'll talk about that when we come back. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors, and they were in yesterday. And I guess, was it two days ago? It was Lorne Levy and Karen Levine. And for everything regarding mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Coming into Independence Week, which is next week, and reflecting upon our declaration and our war for independence and thinking about all of those that have given their lives, been willing to give their lives for for our liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. Next week would be a great way to honor them is to make a contribution to the USMC Memorial Foundation as they're raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And you can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Talking with Dr. Jill Vecchio regarding health care in America. You said that RFK Jr., Dr. Oz, had a press conference that they had sat down with the biggest, I hate to say health care providers. That doesn't seem like the right word. But anyway, those in that arena, the top, the biggest companies. And there was a big announcement that they're going to improve healthcare. this whole pre-authorization situation. What's the real solution on all of this, Dr. Gilvecchio?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, the funny thing is that the insurance companies say, well, the reason we have to have all this pre-authorization, you know, strictness and all of this oversight is because doctors order too many tests. And, well, I can tell you that's true. you know doctors these days don't even do physical exams they just order a lab test and imaging studies lab test imaging say that's it so um and and they do that though to make sure that they can medications so jill don't they do that though because they're trying to cover you know themselves regarding making sure that they did that well partly they're going to cover you because you know can i even trust my physical exam or whatever at the same time you know it's the patients don't even feel like they're seeing a doctor anymore. And most of the time they're not. Most of the time they're seeing a PA or a nurse practitioner. But the bottom line is we wouldn't have trouble with pre-authorization if the insurance companies didn't have to pay for every single thing that happens. If we didn't have the insurance companies stick in their face in our health decisions every step of the way, you know, get them out of the way, just like we talked about, If we only had to pay what the insurance companies pay the doctors. If we were allowed to pay the doctors the same amount, should be less, but the same amount as the insurance companies pay the doctors, which is 10% of what the doctors charge them typically, 10%, okay, of what you see is that big number on the bill thing that they send you. If we only had to pay 10% of that, instead of $40,000, for a surgery if we only had to pay $4,000, but we were saving $28,000 a year by not paying these ridiculous premiums and we just paid for a catastrophic policy at like, I don't know, some of those catastrophic policies were like 100 bucks a month. And then we had like a direct primary care membership, something like that, or you went in and paid cash for all your own stuff out of your HSA account, whatever. If you got to pay only that 10% amount, The $4,000 for a cancer surgery, you could do that. You could do that in a heartbeat. Okay, but Jill. You get to make the decision. Then there's no pre-authorization. The insurance companies, the governments, their faces out of it. You get to decide with your doctor, do I want this test or not? Doctor, explain to me what this test is because I'm paying for it now. I want to know what it is, why you're doing it, what my alternatives are. You know, it's going to increase discussion because otherwise the doctors just say, here, I'm going to, here's a prescription. Take this. And here, I'm just going to order this test. And you just go, okay, the insurance is paying for it. Okay. You know, the whole system is broken because insurance. It's so involved in it. We just feel like we're this little puppet, and everybody just tells us where to go and what to do and what to take, and we just go, okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, Jill, though, if this was changed to this point, this would gut the health care industrial complex, and this would gut the hospital industry. industrial complex. And that's why it would be very difficult to make this happen. I thought I heard in your voice with RFK Jr. and Dr. Oz and this press conference that maybe a little sarcasm on that. Oh, you think?
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I mean, it was like listening to Dr. Oz was like, oh, my God, you learned how to talk like a bureaucrat. REALLY FAST. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT IN THE STAKEHOLDERS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND IT'S LIKE, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED IN THE MEETING? EXCUSE ME. BUT WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY GOING TO DO? ALL HE DID WAS GIVE THESE GENERAL TERMS, BUT THEY WERE SO PROUD THAT THEY HAD THIS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL MEETING WITH ALL THESE INCREDIBLY POWERFUL PEOPLE. WELL, THE MORE POWERFUL THE PERSON, THE LESS LIKELY THERE IS TO GET SOMETHING DONE. And maybe you've got seven coordinating CEOs. They've been coordinating their approach to everything for decades.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, they were all at the table for Obamacare as well, remember? Exactly. Yeah, I think they wrote a ton of that legislation.
SPEAKER 18 :
Who won big? The insurance companies. They pretended that they weren't going to, but they sure did. So, you know, it's silly to watch this press conference go, yeah, we know there are problems, but I'm not seeing that what you're doing is going to do anything. They're just going to go huddle up in a corner and say, okay, now, how do we make it worse? So they'll give us back our pre-authorization. Or how do we make it look good, but over here on the side, like now we're going to start denying payment instead of just denying authorizations. Right. So we'll make it easier for them to authorize. But we're still going to say, hey, we may not pay this. So at your own risk. Well, and we've got three minutes to dump it off on the patient.
SPEAKER 12 :
Three minutes left, though. You talked about all this money that you paid for insurance or that we paid and for deductibles. But part of this is the mandates. And I'm thinking about the whole transgender activist mandates mutilating children. If if people had to pay for that themselves. They might think twice about that as well, but we have these mandates out there for that stuff as well through, I think, Medicaid dollars are being used for that, yes?
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, that I don't know. I don't know if Medicaid or Medicare dollars are being used. I can guarantee if it's Medicaid, it's not going to nearly cover the cost of those surgeries. I mean, this is plastic surgery, period. There is nothing medically, functionally required, like a necessity, a medical necessity for these surgeries. This is plastic surgery. This is like getting breast implants, okay? You want a facelift, you got to, if you have a cancer on your nose, you know, you got to have a little plastic surgery to fix that up. Come on, this is not medically necessary surgery. It is elective surgery. You should have to pay for it the same way that people pay for a facelift. You're doing it for aesthetics. They are doing these surgeries for aesthetics to make themselves feel better. I mean, you know, Brazilian butt lifts make some women feel better. They're not asking me to pay for that. OK.
SPEAKER 12 :
OK. We have a minute left. Final thought. Can we fix this?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah. Yes, we could. But we need you. You've got to get the wrong people to do the right thing, as Milton Friedman used to say. In other words, we've got to get Congress and administrators. People are addressing the wrong problem. It's like, OK, the first time just for an example, first time I made a loaf of bread. I was a kid. So I'm following the recipe. I accidentally put in. So I have my whole mixes all there. And it said something like two cups of water. I accidentally put in four cups of water. Oh, geez. Now the whole thing is messed up. What do I do? Oh, geez. Okay. Let me pour some of it out. Oh, well, there goes some of your yeast and your salt, the stuff you really do need, right? Okay. So, oh, geez. Now what do I do with this? Well, let me just put more bread mix in. Let me put more flour in. So I just kept adding crap. And it just kept getting worse and worse and worse and worse. What I should have just done is dump the whole thing and start over.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, there you have it from Dr. Jill Vecchio. And Dr. Jill, always robust conversations. We'll talk again next month. Okay, take care, everybody. And our quote of the day is from Hippocrates. He said this, the natural healing force within each of us is the greatest force in getting well. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe.
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Happy Wednesday, Kim.
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And another great hour planned for you today. We've got Trent Luce, 6th Generation Farmer and Rancher, as our featured guest. But check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Make sure you're signed up for our weekly email newsletter. You can do that at the bottom of the website. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you. Keep those cards and letters coming. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, remember you should not have to use force to implement it. And on the show, we focus on the issues. and try to stay out of the personality fighting. We will talk about the people that are pushing issues, but we really try to stay out of all that personality stuff. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday, and the first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night, and that is on all KLZ platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app, and then you can find us on Spotify and iTunes as well. Our word of the day, you should be able to use this in a sentence as plethora. And it's P-L-E-T-H-O-R-A, and it could be a large or excessive amount of something. And we've got a plethora of taxes and fees that are being used to take money from the people of Colorado. We need to get that turned around. Our quote of the day, I went to Hippocrates because Dr. Jill was our featured guest in Hour One. And he was born in 460 B.C., died in 370 B.C. He was a Greek physician and philosopher of the classical period. And, of course, they credit the Hippocratic oath with him of do no harm in medicine as well. But he said this. He said, the greatest medicine of all is teaching people how not to need it. And again, that is Hippocrates on that subject. Let's see, several different headlines. I had mentioned that there's been headlines out there saying that the Iranian nuclear capabilities were crippled and not destroyed. And Eric said this, he texted and he said, if President Trump would have said that we missed all of our target, then CNN and MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS would have said that the targets were all destroyed. I think that what Eric's saying is he doesn't trust mainstream media. And I think most people are getting to a point where they don't either. Next thing, Douglas County voted yesterday on whether or not to become a home rule county. And the people said no. 71.5% of the people said no. They did not want to become a home rule county at this time. So 28.5% of the people voted yes. I think my read on this is that people are not necessarily opposed to home rule, but they felt that it was such a compressed timeline that there were so many questions. And when that's the case, people vote no. So I think that that is what happened with the Douglas County home rule question on that. Several headlines I also wanted to mention was this is from Rocky Mountain Voice. This was published back in on June 3rd by Montrose Commissioner Sean Pond. And this is really a big deal. And he starts this off. He says the views expressed here on my own and do not represent an official action or position of the Montrose Board of County Commissioners. He was appointed to District 3 and he said, I took an oath to uphold the Constitution. He says in recent months, there's been a coordinated push to place more of Colorado under federal control. We already fought back against the proposed Dolores National Monument, a 500,000 acre land grab, and we won. Then came a 68,000-acre National Conservation Area proposal in Mesa and Montrose counties. We stood our ground again and stopped it. But now we're facing two more massive federal designations. The first is the GORP Act, and it's the Gunnison Outdoor Resources Protection, also known as GORP, G-O-R-P Act, introduced by Senators Bennett and Hickenlooper. But it's co-sponsored by Congressman Jeff Hurd, Republican. So Bennett and Hickenlooper are Democrats. But here we have a Republican that's got his name on it as a co-sponsor, which is proposing more than 730,000 acres of new federal wilderness, special management zones, and conservation areas. It impacts Gunnison, Delta, Ouray, Hinsdale, Squash, and Pitkin counties. It will restrict oil and gas, mining, timber, and public access for generations. This is important to be aware of this. This needs to be defeated. And very disappointed that Republican Congressman Jeff Hurd has his name on that. And so we need to stay tuned on that. And there was... A proposal, I think, in the big, beautiful bill that some of these federal lands might be sold off, ideally to everyday people. I've talked to some young people and said this could be like homesteading so many years ago where young people could have an opportunity to own land. Now, that was apparently peeled out of the big, beautiful bill because the parliamentarian said that it couldn't be in there. But I find that very creative thinking to – there's so much land that is owned by the federal government. I don't think that that's the way it's supposed to be. So let me know what you think about that. The text line is 720-605-0647. This next thing is crazy. This is from Fox News says top Biden aide admits to Congress that she directed auto pin signatures without knowing who gave final approval. Now, she's got to know who gave her approval. But she said she was unaware of who in the president's inner circle was giving her final clearance, according to a source familiar with the aides closed door testimony in front of Congress on Tuesday. Says Neera Tanden, the former director of Biden's Domestic Policy Council. testified for hours Tuesday during an interview in front of the House Oversight Committee, which is investigating the former president's mental acuity and his use of an automatic signature tool that allows aides to sign pardons, memos, and other important documents on Biden's behalf. It says her testimony lasted five hours, and she told lawmakers that her role as staff secretary and senior advisor to the former president between 2021 and 2023, she was authorized to direct auto pen signatures on behalf of Biden. This is going to get real interesting, I think, on all this. She also said she had limited interactions with Biden, described an approval process that left her in the dark about who specifically was giving final approval on the decisions to use the automatic signature tool. I think there's a nuance right there that we need to drill down on. She's saying that she was in the dark who specifically was giving her final approval. But the question is, who was giving her approval to do this? And when we pull on that thread, then we could ask that person until we could get to the point of where we will really know who was giving the approval on that. Lastly... Ranked choice voting was defeated here in Colorado, even though Kent Theory and company put millions of dollars into it. I was very surprised that it was defeated on this last ballot. Bear in mind, there will be something that will be coming back. But in New York, on that Merrill primary, It says the race has emerged as a nail biter between New York Governor, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and State Assembly member Zoran Mamdani, a Democrat socialist. It says New York uses a ranked choice voting system which allows voters to number their top five candidates in order of preference. If no candidate earns more than 50% of the vote share in the initial round, the lowest ranked candidate gets knocked out, the votes then get reshuffled, and the process continues until a candidate earns the majority of the vote share. And it looks like with all of this, very possibly, I thought that I had the latest, but I didn't. But I think that, and I'll check it out, that this Democrat socialist will become the next mayor of the largest city in America. Does anybody see a problem with that? And so stay tuned on all of this, all these important headlines. We bring this to you because of our sponsors and the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team wants you to feel safe and well served to understand your insurance coverage and know that their office will respond or call to your text 24 hours a day. So for that 24 hour peace of mind, call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangan's team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do you have big dreams for your future, but you're not quite sure how to get there? Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. They know your financial life is unique, and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and your goals first. No sales pressure, no one-size-fits-all approach, just thoughtful guidance built around you. Take the first step towards your future. Call Mint Financial Strategies at 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. And it is Wednesday, so that means that it is a Trent Luce Wednesday. He's a sixth-generation farmer and rancher who lives in Nebraska. Trent, welcome to the show.
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Hi, Kim. Has it been a week already?
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It's been a week already. So what's on your radar? What have you been up to?
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Oh, my goodness. There's a lot of things going on. I don't know where you want to start. I do know you said you have these big dreams. You just don't know how to get there. Well, I saw a picture yesterday that caused me to get kind of dreamy. I saw a 20-mule hitch that would have been taken in about 1875 or something in the West, and they were using this 20-mule team to haul borax, and these mules were credited as being the saviors of the West. So there's my dream. I want to drive a 20-mule hitch, and I don't know how to get there.
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Well, yeah. Interesting. So it was a photo that you saw. You've probably never seen a 20-mule team in real life.
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I have not. But the late Conrad Burns, who was a senator from Montana for quite some time, I had great conversations with him, and he actually drove a 42-mule hitch one time.
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I can't even imagine. That's just a train wreck waiting to happen.
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Okay, so question about, I remember all those advertisements regarding Borax and 20 mules. So Borax, what is Borax exactly?
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Well, I had a feeling you would bring that up, so I actually looked it up so that I knew. It is a sodium borate. It's basically a salt-based product. And I think that if you go look at the salt flats of Utah, you would find the borax, which was used for many things. And today, it's used for household cleaning. And obviously, it's a main component in laundry soap.
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OK. Because I bought some borax recently because I was going to try to make flubber from home. And I didn't do a very good job on it. But it's so interesting that you would bring borax up on this recently. So next thing, as you and I were communicating back and forth, one of the things you said you wanted to talk about was the exports, our 2024 beef exports. So let's talk a little bit about that.
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Well, and I want to tie it into cotton, too. And I want to tie it into steel and timber and everything else that we once produced in the United States, including sheep. So the numbers that I came upon yesterday, because I continued to know and was told that we are now a net importer of beef produced, we're importing more beef than we're exporting. We're importing 4.6 billion tons of beef a year, pounds, excuse me, pounds a year. And that is a 24% increase from 2023. a 24% increase on imported beef. At the same time, we went down in our exports to between 3 and 3.5 billion pounds. That's a decrease of 5%. It's predicted that we'll have another decrease of 7% in 2025 and an increase of 7% in 2025 of imports. So the moral of the story is, don't get confused in the numbers, we are now importing substantially more beef than we're producing. And we're a nation that is loaded with terrain and cellulose material that cannot be utilized for anything other than fire or ruminant animals, upcycling that into the most nutrient-dense food substance on the planet, which, by the way, I cooked some phenomenal lamb chops yesterday. I'll tantalize you in a moment when I send you a picture during the break. But why are we losing this infrastructure? And I know everybody's going to jump up and down and say drought, drought. Well, that's not totally the case because drought's always a big indicator and it's caused our beef inventory herd to go down. But if I drive around the country, and I even witnessed this last week in Montana and the Dakotas because I went to Deer Lodge, Montana last week. And there is a tremendous amount of land that is being taken out of ruminant animal production in our part of the world. Kansas, Nebraska, parts of eastern Colorado are taking grass and putting corn and soybeans in production in these areas to an alarming number. And so my concern is we're doing the same thing in the beef business and the cotton business. We have a 15% reduction in the number of cotton acres in 2025, 1 million fewer acres of cotton in Texas alone. There's only one state that is seeing an increase in cotton numbers. And if it wasn't for the state of Arizona, which is up by 32%, our numbers would really be drastic. 87% of all textiles go through Asian countries alone. Kim, the reason I wanted to bring this up is that I'm trying to bring awareness that the infrastructure for the essentials of life that we have, the resources to generate here at home domestically every day, just like steel, just like timber, like all of these other antibiotics. Why are 90% of all the antibodies coming from China? We have the same resource here to generate the antibiotics. We must maintain our infrastructure of food and fuel and fiber for a free future.
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Well, absolutely. And it seems that Trump is trying to get this turned around. The results here are the results of policies over a number of years under administrations from both sides of the aisle. And we do need to get this turned around. How are we going to do that looking into the future?
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Dismantle the federal government. That's the only way. Because every bit of what you described is coming out of federal legislation from an environmental standpoint, from an endangered species standpoint, from a labor standpoint. I mean, the one thing that was a common denominator wherever I stopped last week in a trip that ended up being 2,600 miles, gas stations, restaurants, hotels, I got the same message at every single stop. We can't get labor. It doesn't matter how much we pay. And we can't afford to pay what it takes to make it work.
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Well, I think that that can be then connected to our education system where we have not been teaching people the value and dignity of work and doing a job well. If you work and do a job well, then you can move up the ladder. And we've not been teaching good work ethic for a long time and then also a a dependency these dependency programs from the government where we people pay people not to work uh is a big problem as well so all of that needs to change trent loose i agree 100 except for one little thing that you said this is not teaching work ethic is not the responsibility of a government-induced education system
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It's in your parenting manual. And kids learn work ethic from parents and grandparents, not from the school system. And what have we had happen? We've had a complete destruction of the family unit. The mother and the father are not there. 42% of all childbirths to single mothers. It has to start at home.
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Well, it does really have to start at home. I do agree with that. But I think that the education system can complement that, and it should. And I think that it used to. And when I talk about the education system not doing this, Cherry Creek School District, which used to be the premier school district in Colorado, people used to try to buy a home in that district because it was such a a great school district no longer to my understanding offers or will award the uh um back oh gosh you know the top awards and now i'm drawing a blank on what those are you know the talk at top economic or excuse me educational awards for a senior salutary salutarian is that how you say that i can't remember valedictorian and salutatorian That they no longer will recognize that because it makes other people feel bad. That's a problem. So I agree with you that we at home have to be teaching work ethic, but we also have to make sure that we are recognizing that. people striving for success and working diligently in education as well. We need to get away from everybody gets an award and we need to go back to meritocracy where people do a job well and they're rewarded for that, Trent Luce.
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We have three daughters. All three of those daughters, two are valedictorian, one is salutatorian. And I would rather, I think that we have too many people that don't care that some kid outperformed their kid. They just don't care. I think they're more worried about just getting by than being recognized as being the valedictorian or salutatorian. We should see somebody who sets an example for work ethic and try to achieve things to be similar. Instead, we either say, oh, our feelings are hurt, or we don't really care about that. Why don't we care? The reason we have athletics is to teach others to be better and try to achieve what somebody else has already accomplished. But we've lost sight of all that. Everybody has to be fair. We can't offend anybody. Well, the only people that are offended by something are those that feel guilty about it anyway. So I don't worry about offending people.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. To be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And also, check out the website for the Center for American Values, which is AmericanValueCenter.org. The center is located in Pueblo. And Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient and co-founder of the center, has started... Very informative new podcast series. And he just recently posted his one regarding domestic insurrection. So I've got to listen to that. But he is very knowledgeable about so many things. And check that out. That is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. uh trent luce is on the line and we mentioned we're talking about meritocracy and and work ethic and you mentioned athletics and people being able to excel do do well in athletics of course americans love that we love we love talent people doing their best you can take a look at all of the different uh professional athletic competition there There certainly isn't DEI there. What there is is people that can do the job the best possible way that they can. Do you not think, though, that having boys play in girls' sports is another way to undercut, well, particularly girls striving for excellence? If they strive for excellence... But still, they have a male in their profession or in their athletic competitions that they just can't compete with. Don't you think that's an undercut of striving for excellence and meritocracy as well, Trent Luce?
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If I say what I really think about that? KLC will get a fine from the FTC.
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So don't do that.
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Oh, FCC. Yeah, this is absurd. It's intended to create chaos and to cause disruptions like it is. There is no reason for males to be participating in female sports or vice versa.
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And Protect Kids Colorado are working on a ballot initiative. Petitions will be distributed soon to get that onto the ballot to keep boys and boys sports, girls and girls sports, and co-ed and co-ed sports. And so stay tuned on that. Next thing, Trent, one of our listeners sent this over. I had not seen this headline, but he said, be sure and ask Trent Luce about this. He says, RFK Jr. said on national TV that they wouldn't do this. However, the USDA is preparing to mass vaccinate poultry against the bird flu, ignoring scientific and public warnings. What do you know about this?
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So apparently USDA was trying to keep this quiet. And then I don't know if Bobby actually outed them, but he's been on Fox News yesterday talking about this. And there is, and USDA has now admitted, although they've not issued a press release to the particular topic, but they've admitted that by the end of July, they're going to have a plan formulated that that they will mandate vaccination, mRNA vaccination of all poultry in the United States.
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Well, that seems like a real problem because the MRNA was vaccination. That was the basis for the COVID experimental vaccination. And so many Americans don't want to have that in their bodies. So if, in fact, that's mandated to chickens, then that would mean if we eat that chicken, then we would have the MRNA in our bodies, yes? Yes.
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That's correct.
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Well, that's a real problem.
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Well, it is a problem. There should be no mandated vaccine, period. And I'll just gently remind people we've not vaccinated an animal for four years. And I got to tell you, across the board, we've never had a healthier population. And this is done in secret. And this is my problem with the entire Trump plan. They do a couple things to get headlines and make it look like they're doing wonderful things. And people say, I really like some things that he's doing. But behind the scenes, there are so many things, including what's going on with USDA and health, what's going on with the power plants, excuse me, the power transmission lines, which is 100%. And I'm sure we're going to get to this because of where you were yesterday. This is 100% about enabling artificial intelligence to come into this country in a way that should not be in this country and utilizing and completely derobing us of the resources that we have. And the reason they're trying to fast-track that Xcel energy pipeline through Colorado is the same reason they're trying to fast-track one through North Dakota. It's to get the AI inventory back. an investment from Saudi Arabia, $20 billion to come to fruition. This is really an extension of what you talked about before I joined in this hour, and that was the auto pen. I mean, it's just AI taking over, and we can't afford from an electric or a water use to do any of this.
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Well, a couple of things, and I do want to address this because after you were on last week mentioning water, I agree water is so important. But a listener did say that it was very possibly a closed system with AI on their water usage. I don't know for sure, but they want to make sure that I mention that to you.
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It is. They will reuse the water. But if that water is being used in that closed system, it's not being used to produce your food. So it's still water usage, even though the water doesn't disappear. There's only an allocated amount of water. You go to anywhere over the Ogallala Aquifer, and guys are prohibited from drilling a new well today because we can't have new uses of water. This is a new use of water. Even though it's a closed-loop system, they still use that massive amount of water in that closed-loop system.
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Okay, good clarification on that. Next thing regarding the transmission lines in Excel, it's not a pipeline. It is a transmission line. And I was out in Elbert County at Kiowa yesterday and did leave. Apparently there were just a few more speakers. After five and a half hours, I knew I needed to do the hour drive back. I still had to do the research for the show today on our headlines and all. But this is crazy-ville to me that Xcel Energy has an incomplete application that they are wanting approval of, that they have an incomplete application. They are already serving condemnation powers on landowners in Elbert County to take their land via eminent domain And again, this is from testimony that I saw from the public that Excel is saying, no, you can control your land on this easement. But yet one of the citizens read from the letter that they'd gotten from Excel that says you can't do that. Basically, Excel has total control. You can't put up fences. He says we have to have fences for our livestock. And this is a mess out there. I love the fact it was a packed house initially. But, Trench, you're in enough meetings. You've seen this act before. And that is staff. They're all paid. They go for an hour to make the presentation, explain what the what I's have to be dotted and T's have to be crossed. So you have all that. You have the PowerPoint presentation, then Excel. And they had a table of. people and then they had another table it must have been of people behind them I bet there were 12 to 15 people there all of them are paid and then you have the public that gets up and says and that was an hour and a half so we're now from a one o'clock meeting to 3 30 now we're going to start to hear from the public the public who's had to take time off from work And bless the county commissioners for making sure that all the public could be heard yesterday instead of adjourning the meeting and saying come back tomorrow. Now, I guess they're going to make the decision today. They adjourned the meeting. But I've seen that act before as well where the staff electeds have said, oh – Too long, too much time, we're going to start this over, and people can't come back to those meetings, and that's a strategy. But it's just, I guess I can say I'm almost speechless, and that doesn't happen very often, Trent Luce.
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Several things. This is not just Colorado. This is happening in Nebraska. This is happening in North Dakota. The same issue came about with the Monday decision in North Dakota. It's happening in Oklahoma. It's happening in Missouri. Every place I go, this exact same thing is taking place. And we throw a fit because of what you said, eminent domain, and we don't want to succumb to eminent domain. Now, I have a friend in Wichita who was given condemnation papers and eminent domain threats eight years ago for a transmission line outside of Wichita and Reno County. They've yet to build because once he went into eminent domain, he had the leverage. And they've not come to an agreement. You have to come to an agreement. And that is what gets left out of the equation. But the real threat is that I am told that this Colorado line that you're talking about in Elbert County goes right through the town of Kiowa. Did that come up yesterday?
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Yeah, they said it's going to be very near their schools.
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And I have a friend, Joe Esposito, who I've had on roll route twice and three times in the last two months. He was injured. in as a marine with microwaves and radiation from radar because he was monitoring airplane aircraft radar and now he is making his entire living i don't think it gets paid but he goes places and realtors he told me this week that realtors are contacting him because people are demanding to know what electric magnetic field is coming from transmission lines in the air before they buy And he says he'll go, he'll do a reading, and more times than not, they walk away and say, no, we don't want to live there. The people of Kiowa need to rise up and say this is a public health issue, and they need more information. And I'm talking about every town USA. We have all of these frequencies, all of this 5G, all of these electronic magnetic fields that are rained upon us. And who's really paying attention to what's happening here? If you listen to Joe Esposito, you'll get a monitor, which I got to order today. You get a meter and read these readings right now where you're at. And these transmission lines, I was driving home through Montana again last week listening to my AM radio station out of Bismarck, 550 K-Fire. Every time I went under a transmission line, it would buzz out. I was like, that's in my pickup line. What's that doing to me? What's it doing to you? We've got to get more questions about the safety.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and there were a number of people that did in their public testimony address that question yesterday as well. I really went at it from a property rights issue. Proper role of government to represent the people and their property rights is what I really focused on in my public testimony. We're going to go to break. We're talking with Trent Luce. We have these discussions because we have sponsors such as John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 12 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. This next week, which is Independence Week, I'd highly recommend, in honor of all of those, from the Revolutionary War to now, who have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty to make a contribution to the Memorial Foundation and help them as they're raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. I've got Trent Luce on the line. Sixth Generation Farmer and Rancher, we were talking about this hearing yesterday out in Kiowa, Colorado, regarding the proposed XL transmission line, which they are threatening to take land via eminent domain, and the application has not even been approved, and the application is incomplete. seems like a problem to me. And Trent Luce is on the line. We've got Gammy. She's got about a minute. She's got an important issue that she wants to talk about.
SPEAKER 13 :
Good morning. I'm going to go quick. So yesterday, an op-ed or two days ago, Gazette editorial board put this out. The agricultural appointee to the land board, Mrs. Rose Marina, has a history of such activism for the wolf indoctrination against ranchers and farmers. We're talking Colorado ag is about a $47 million per year industry, $4.6 billion in beef alone. And then what she's doing is she got appointed by Polis and her history, this is one of the comments she made in 24, cows be gone. We only allow native grazers signaling a real hostility to the 4.6 billion industry of the ranchers and cattle people. In 2018, her rewilding institute, we can't depend on the public lands in southern Great Plains to preserve biodiversity. So she's behind all of that 30 by 30 rewilding and everything to do with taking animals, as Trent put it, the ruminants, the animals and us, off the land. And she's on this land board, and they're going to lose $2 million. a year for schools if they let people like that on the board. But it's worse than that. She's been involved. Back when they had a fire in Vail, some sort of arson, she actually applauded the arsonists on the environmental behalf. This is not someone that should be a public servant, whether it's elected, appointed, or paid or not. And this circles back to all these people that have been put in positions of power need to be more scrutinized and dosed because this is destroying our food production. This is just one example to just circle that to everybody and his uncle. And I need to throw one quickie in. Last night I watched the two hours of the defund Planned Parenthood, defundppnow.com. They kill 400,000 kids a year. They are number two in trans chemical and surgical procedures. The New York Times did an expose of the horrible conditions in Planned Parenthood and how it is harming our women. in the procedures of abortions or other procedures, and all this money, they get $800 million a year taxpayer money, and they waste it. And then they raise $500 million for political action, and they go out to dinners. One dinner, they went out and they ate sushi off a naked woman's body.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. And, Gammy, very important point. And that is why we need to get rid of government grants. We need to get rid of tax credits. We do those two things and we start to really start to chip away at this government that is out of control. And so, Trench, your comments on this?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I agree 100%. Tax credits and grants are the ultimate problem. If we fix that, many of these issues would simply go away. We wouldn't be talking about this transmission line through Colorado, the eastern Colorado. We talk a lot about Elbert County, but just keep in mind it encompasses a lot of eastern Colorado. That's all about tax credits. Get rid of tax credits and these land grabs are limited.
SPEAKER 12 :
So with that Trent Luce, Daily Caller, which is, I think that that was the news source that was founded by Tucker Carlson. I normally will run over there and take a quick look at what the headlines are there. That's one of the sources that I look at. And so I was going through things the other day. This was on Monday. And this paid advertisement came up. It says, built for America. Trump country is booming. President Trump, don't repeal. Energy tax credits. And then it says energy tax credits are creating jobs. President Trump, keep what works. Don't repeal energy tax credits. Well, those tax credits are what are being used to, I think, connect the dot to fund jobs. green energy these transmission lines the co2 pipelines and you can see that money is going to come in to try to prevent getting rid of those i hope that trump and his team can understand what's going on get rid of these tax credits get rid of these government grants that will start to get our spending under control which that means that we'll start to get this budget under control So I hope, but again, here you have on a, air quotes, conservative media source and big monies coming in to try to fight this. We have to shed light on this. We've got a few minutes left. How would you like to wrap this up, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I have zero faith in Trump doing that due to the fact that Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick is one of the largest receiver of tax credits in the country through wind development. But we talk a lot about what's going wrong. There's a lot of things going right. And what we need to always remind ourselves is we can't sit back and expect these things just to take care of themselves. Going back to the lamb and wool and cotton and beef discussion that we had, you as a consumer and where you spend your consumer dollars dictate who's going to be involved in this business. And there are people... in this listing area, no matter whether you're in Wyoming, New Mexico, or Colorado, that have an option to buy from someone producing locally, it is your obligation. I'm going to say it's your obligation to take it to the next level, get more information, and don't continue to buy your essentials of life in the most convenient place. Buy it with the best investment for the future.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. And I wanted to give a shout out. Rachel Gable had written this, I guess, initially in the Denver Gazette regarding this woman that is, as Gammy had shed light on, that is now going to be the, I think, head of the state land board. And the title is State Land Board Pick Once Cheered Echo Terrorism. Now she could control 2.8 million acres. We could see that that's a real problem because her policies do not want to have human access, whether or not that's oil and gas development, whether or not it's just humans being able to go onto that land, food production, all those things. She wants to keep us off the land. And when that happens, then humans, that goes against human thriving and flourishing. Your final thought?
SPEAKER 08 :
30 seconds Rachel Gable is outstanding not only in this issue but all issues she is on top of the fight that we're against for our future and anybody can follow Rachel needs to do it in all venues possible yes she does a great job on shedding light on all of this Trent Luce thank you and we're actually going to be pre-recorded for next week so we will talk to you in a couple of weeks I will see you soon
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Sounds great. And the quote for the end of the show is from Hippocrates. He said this, the natural healing force within each one of us is the greatest force in getting well. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. God bless you, and God bless America.
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