Join professional money manager Bill Gundersen as he takes you on a journey through the latest happenings in the stock market. From the decision-making challenges faced by investors in 2022 to the promising returns some saw earlier this year, it's a conversation rich with industry insights. Get the inside scoop on ETF trends, market highs and lows, and the ever-evolving landscape of AI investment—a space still in its nascency yet brimming with opportunity.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Tuesday morning. It is February 11th, live edition of the Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And Barry is back from his, I call it the baptism of fire, Gunderson. Going into that NASDAQ building into the sacred hall of momentum back from New York. And we're going to blame this downward move on him. Actually, probably Chairman Powell's in there. He's in no hurry to lower interest rates, and the Dow does not like that. Down 119. That's 27 basis points to the downside. We stand at 44,350. The S&P is down 18 to 6,048. The NASDAQ is down 58. AI taking it on the chin just a little bit, a little bit of profit taking. The NASDAQ is at 19,657, down 29 basis points. The small cap is down about a half a percent. They don't like it when Chairman Powell doesn't promise a rate cut soon. And the small caps are down 46 basis points right now. Interest rates are about steady. We closed the day yesterday at 4.49, 4.47, somewhere in there. And that's where we are today. Oh, I know we're up. Uh-oh, 4.53. Okay, that's what's got the market upset today. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a fee-based nationwide firm. We set an all-time record by being invited to the NASDAQ closing bell ceremony twice this year. Yeah. I guess I was there right before Christmas, okay? So once in 2024, now once in 2025. It's quite the experience, isn't it, Mary? Tell the listeners a little bit about it.
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Yeah, well, you were right. I mean, you said, you know, you've got to go do this. And so, you know, they kind of, you know, you show me. It's a quick trip. You show up at 3, and, you know, they kind of shuffle you in, kind of give you the way of the land inside the little studio there. And, you know, cameras are around. Of course, you've got all kinds of stuff. I'm watching the NASDAQ, hoping it's going to finish in the green. I think it was up about a percent most of the day. I kept keeping an eye on it. You can see that in the studio. They were there. It was the 15th anniversary, actually. I learned something while I was there. It was the 15th anniversary of TQQQ, which is basically the nasdaq triple uh triple leverage etf and it's the largest actually by aum it's the largest uh leverage etf that there is so it's 25 billion uh you know 25 billion i was thinking if you're three times qqq absolutely how do you think it got there right probably moving quickly yeah
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Well, I mean, over the last 10 years, it's averaged 36% per year, okay, if you do the math. But along the way, you've had some tremendous turbulence. You've had some dips.
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Yeah, the math works the other way in a year like 2022, right, if you look at what the NASDAQ did during that standpoint. But it was a great event, unique. It's kind of funny. They throw your picture up on the – Up on Times Square out there, which is kind of odd, but it would be neat at the same time. But it was a good experience. And then you're out of there around, what, 430, 445? Very well choreographed. Yeah, it is. The ProShares TQQ has $26 billion in it.
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And if you think about it, That right there is a testament to the power of the NASDAQ and the growth stocks. It's certainly done a lot better than triple Dow, which I know there's a triple S&P 500. But 36% compounded annual return over the last 10 years. Take that, Coca-Cola. Okay, well, yeah, we had a pretty good day in the market yesterday.
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Finished in the green? Yes, .98. .98 on the NASDAQ.
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And we were up about the same. I think we were up 1% yesterday, so we did okay, too. It was the first time in three weeks that we didn't have a Manic Monday. If you remember, last week we had the tariff tantrum and the week before that we had the deep seek, horrible smashing of the market. But Palantir had another good day yesterday, and Vidi has been pretty perky here recently. Spotify had a good day. Gold finished at 2,934, all-time high. How about that? And earnings coming in. This is a busy week. We had McDonald's yesterday, which reported not bad. But it's not a best stock now anymore. Not a best burger now either. I mean, In-N-Out Burger, it can't even hold a candle to that. Coca-Cola reported this morning. They had some, I don't know if they advertised during the Super Bowl. I'm sure they did. But it's obviously a single-digit grower in today's world. Shopify has reported. That's one we own. Marriott has reported. Lyft's going to report after the close. DoorDash. Tomorrow we'll get Cisco, which obviously time has passed Cisco by, but it's still in the Dow. The Dow's pretty slow to make changes. They should have changed out Cisco a long time ago.
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And the AI scene is trying to help Cisco, maybe. Yeah, but it's still a 4% grower. Right.
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And then AB&B, Roku. Roku's trying to turn the page. They're almost there. They're almost profitable. They still have some pretty good sales growth, and they're pretty close to crossing the line to profitability. That's always a major marker in the life of a company. Okay, tariffs. Who's next? You know, the EU is not going to blink like Canada and Mexico did. And Trump has even said it himself. He says, oh, they're tough. They're going to be tough. But they've been taking advantage of us for years, says President Trump. And the EU vows to respond to U.S. tariffs with firm and proportionate countermeasures. So you better stockpile your French brie cheese, your French wines, your Switzerland fine cheeses, etc. Holland, known for their cheese, that Dutch Gouda, of course. It looks like the trade war is setting up to be pretty hot and heavy. He did sign the tariffs against steel and aluminum. I put out a chart on X yesterday of I think it was copper, C-P-E-R-E-T-F. which has like Freeport-McMoran in it and others that are, you know, there's not really any one company that just produces copper. They usually are into a lot of other things, too, like steel. It had a very good day yesterday, obviously. I mean, Trump with his U.S. first policy, you had a pretty good gain in the U.S. steel and mining stocks. The fury against... It was the old Dr. Copper, remember? Yes, Dr. Copper. I can't say that the economy drove it yesterday or the building boom drove it. But tariffs against other – and, you know, they've been cheating. Look, they've been relabeling cheap steel and bringing it into America and other imports, aluminum, et cetera.
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Well, what did we find? We found – I remember it was counterfeit titanium. Oh, yeah. Remember you read that story? And I'm like, well, that doesn't sound good.
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Think about that next time you're on a regional jet coming from New York City and flying over Washington, D.C. Number one, you've got to worry about – blackhawk helicopters and counterfeit titanium oh boy i don't want that in my my wings uh the fury against elon musk continues now he's floating auditing the fed he's sounding like uh ron paul okay ron paul that was his big thing we need to audit the fed hey i got nothing that's all i know all these audits are turning up all kinds of stuff all right All kinds of goodies buried deep within the bureaucracy of the U.S. government with checks being funded by us, let's not forget. Being funded by us, you know that money that comes out of your paycheck every week or two weeks or whatever it is? Oh, FEMA. They caught FEMA all kinds of millions and millions of dollars going to nice hotels in New York. Did they subsidize your hotel? Did FEMA pay for your hotel?
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Thankfully, it did not come from a disaster area.
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You know what? Millions and millions. And they were nice hotels, too. I mean, not like Skid Row or anything like that to house illegal immigrants. And then, of course, North Carolina comes along, and guess what? FEMA's out of money. So there's some angry people out there with all of this stuff being unearthed. I say go ahead, audit the Fed.
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Well, I mean, if you've got publicly held, publicly traded companies, right, who are held to a higher, I mean, should they be held to a higher standard than the actual government?
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The government should be held to the highest of standards. That's sacred money. That's the people's money. that we're sending to them. Okay, when we come back, AI, AI, and more AI. This is the Best Stocks Now show. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. We've got a little bit of a downdraft here in the market. But consider the NASDAQ three times. Just buy and hold it. You could make a case for buy and hold, Barry. Just don't look at it every day. 36% per year. Do the math. Build yourself a nice little spreadsheet. Take $100,000 and compound that by 36% a year over a 10-year period of time. No wonder that thing has grown to be $26 billion. Those are some good management fees they're earning off of that ETF.
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I'd have to research what would it look like if you held it in 2022, right? Because at some point, I think what they'd do is they'd eventually do some reverse stock splits because if you have, say, three times what the NASDAQ was down, what, close to 35%, right, in 2022? So three times 35 is over 100.
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Let me look real quickly. We should have that data in the Best Stocks Now app. The chart should have got weird. 2022, because we adjust for splits. Okay, so it's TQQ. I thought it was S. SQQ is triple short the NASDAQ.
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Yeah, that's not a fun one. TQQQ, which I guess makes sense.
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Okay, here's what I show, down 89% in 2022. That's what I show. Okay, but let's average it out now. Who could sleep through an 89% drop? Yeah, right, exactly. Holy cow. But 10-year average, 36.4.
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The stock price went from 81 to 81 a share.
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It lost 90% of its value. So if you had a million dollars, it went down to 100 grand that year, right?
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Yeah, I mean, it went to the lowest, you know, $17 basically from 80, you know, at one point it was around 83, 84.
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Here's where we blew it, not buying it in January of, when we put out the buy on the NASDAQ in January 2023.
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Triple Q. That's a good one for the incubator portfolio, the best drawer portfolio.
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It's up 49% over the last 12 months versus the market 21.5%. And in 2023, you had 193% return after that 90% drop. It's a roller coaster.
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Well, and that's what we were talking about. I was thinking, because they said at the presentation that there's $25 billion right in that strategy. And I'm like, man, that sounds like a lot. But then I started thinking, I'm like, well, it might only have been $10 billion in it two years ago. Well, I bet a lot of money comes and goes.
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A lot of money comes and goes because people use it as a trading. I doubt that very few people owned it for 10 years.
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Right.
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My hat is off to them. And you know what? You say it's been around 25 years or 15?
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It was actually their 15th year anniversary. And like I said, I learned that it's the largest leveraged ETF out there.
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I'm adding 15-year and 20-year and 25-year returns to the app. I have the numbers here. I just haven't put it in the app yet. So it will be interesting to see what the 15-year, since inception, since the day they brought it public.
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Yeah, I mean the 10-year. So the math on the 10-year, it's up 1,738%. There you go.
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Okay, EU launches 200 billion AI investment plan. One of the questions I was asked when I was interviewed by the CEO of Granite Shares, Will Ryan, back in December was, Bill, do you think AI has played out here? I said, no, not at all. I think it's in the early stages. And I think I was pretty much right. I did put that interview. I found that interview. I put it up on the newsletter on Friday. And we'll have to put it on our website somewhere. Bill called it exactly. Did they interview you guys?
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No, yeah, no interview this time because you had the, basically it was kind of the tactical team there who, you know, they're the math whizzes that put all the, you know, put the math together behind, you know, three times leverage or the other way, right? So, you know, you've got to hedge out those. You've got to find that contract and how to make it work because you want the least amount of tracking error, right? You don't want it three times fun that, you know, two and a half times.
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Now, okay, we had, you know, Trump announced, what, a couple weeks ago, the $500 billion initiative in AI. I don't think it's going to be that big, but that was SoftBank and Sam Altman. Now the EU, or yesterday, France announced a $200 billion AI initiative. The EU launched a $200 billion AI initiative. So I don't think at all that AI has played out. It was funny yesterday. You know, Elon Musk, he should have never sold his stake. Him and Altman started. open ai and i think they had their differences and i think maybe that must doesn't have any investment in open ai anymore but he did put up an unsolicited bid he says 97.4 billion a group led by elon musk made an unsolicited bid for the non-profit entity, which I don't think it's non-profit anymore. And Altman said, no thanks, you know, OpenAI is not for sale. But, you know, look, it's worth $100 billion, somewhere in there right now.
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It's an interesting dynamic.
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I'll say.
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I heard this morning, I mean, they're going back and forth. I try to stay out of some of the fray, but... I mean, you just had, what, it was only a couple weeks ago, right, where you had essentially Altman and a couple others with, I think, was it Larry Ellison, I think? Yeah, Ellison and SoftBank. Yeah, with Trump, and then now you've got this kind of... feud that's kind of re-fired again you know trump just said you know elon doesn't like certain people he doesn't like altman oh and altman said today was talking about you know this morning was you know i heard a quote he's talking about his pretty talking about his personality they feel sorry for elon i'm like it's kind of a little bit of a scary guy is that altman so anyway no
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It says right here, Musk has no investment in OpenAI anymore. He has his own. Is it Grok? I think it's Grok. Okay, here's the boomerang effect. Fox is investing in Red Seat Ventures. which is a podcast site that features Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, and Bill O'Reilly. Okay. Those were all people that once worked for Fox. I was on Fox News Channel in prime time with Megan Kelly.
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Yeah.
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Talking all about, let's see, it was Cirque, let's see, it was the, What was it? Solyndra. Solyndra in the Silicon Valley, which was a big scam of solar. They got all kinds of federal money, and the money went up in smoke. And I just happened to have a contact that told me about the story, and we... I sent Fox the info, and within a week I was on Fox with Megyn Kelly. I've got the picture of it. But here they are investing in Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and Bill O'Reilly. It's like the exile island. All right. We'll be right back. We've got a lot of individual stocks to talk about today.
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I just don't understand anymore. This is Bill Gunderson.
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And welcome back to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, the market has closed the gap here somewhat.
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At least the NASDAQ has. It's down just seven basis points right now. I'm going to see, though. It doesn't look as good underneath the surface, however. I'm seeing some pretty big sell-offs in AI today.
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i'll tell you what talking about meta i mean talking about a streak 16 days yeah 16 days and you know it's barely in the green right now i was just looking at it given that the nasdaq is down but yeah it's a 16 day streak uh maybe the longest streak ever i know it's since 1990 so yeah basically since the data i believe it may be the longest so pretty impressive to uh zuckerberg but you know there's
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I'm seeing a big sell-off in AI today. I mean, look at that chart, by the way.
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Look at the chart.
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Astera, Vistra, Constellation, Arista, and Spotify is down 2%. So I'm seeing a lot of the momentum stocks selling off today despite the NASDAQ closing the gap here. Okay, quantum computing. Let's come back to that for a minute. There is a private company out there that is currently being valued. Let's see. Valued $750 million to $1 billion. It's called QERA. Google SoftBank Among Investors in Quantum Computing Startup. It was actually started at MIT. They don't have a football team, I don't think, Barry, but they have some pretty... If they did, they would pass a lot. They have some pretty... Yeah, they'd be running Air Coriel, you know, wide open offense, you know, a lot of fun. Anyways, keep an eye on this. But this just tells you... This company already has tens of millions in revenue from several customers, including Japan's National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology. Quantum computing has become a hot topic on Wall Street, thanks in part to recent advancements made by Google, which obviously had that Willow quantum chip. And I continue to watch stocks like IONQ and QBTS and QUBT and RGT, Rigetti. They've been struggling, but they have made up quite a bit from the low that they hit after the CEO of NVIDIA, Jensen Wang, hit them upside the head saying... saying quantum computing was 20 to 30 years out. Well, if that's the case, these companies have already invested. They raised $230 million in a matter of weeks, said Q-era CEO Andy Ori. So there's a lot of buzz around quantum computing. Apparently this company... has cleared some of the technical hurdles that have been in the way, technical milestones. And so we'll keep an eye on this one, but I think it's good to know that this is going on in the private sectors, the private area. of the market right now. Okay, here's one that Nvidia is investing in. You know, anytime Nvidia invests in a company, in fact, I added it to my app today. This stock is up 64% today. Firefly Neuroscience. Firefly Neuroscience is headquartered in Kenmore, New York. They develop neuroscientific solutions for mental illnesses and neurological disorders using technology and AI. You know, I want to say that maybe one of our followers or listeners tipped us off to this talk. And that obviously went right over my head. But I did add it to the app today. It's only a $40 million company. That's what we call. That's not even quite a micro cap.
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That's not even a small cap. I mean, that's micro cap. Micro cap.
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And even I call them bottle caps underneath that where, you know, I knew a guy that used to collect bottle caps. He was a heavy drinker. He had a lot of bottle caps from different beers around the world and all this. NVIDIA Connect to include Firefly... They call it a nano cap. Okay, there is a word. Underneath micro cap, it's nano cap. So maybe I need to create... I'm going to make a note to self in the app. We're going to create a nano cap. I'm going to say that's probably under $100 million. I'll have to get the definition of what that is.
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And those definitions are always interesting because we've talked about a large cap nowadays and basically a mega cap, right? I mean, we've got companies out there that are $3 trillion. It breaks the scale of what used to be published. Yeah, well, I mean, we never had trillion dollars. Right, exactly.
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It almost seems like there needs to be a, well, mega cap. I don't know if you can go any bigger than mega-cap.
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I mean, mid-cap in my head nowadays would have probably classified as a small, large cap in the past.
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Well, I mean, when you cross $100 billion, that used to be a mega-cap. But if you take $100 billion, that's nothing compared to $3.7 trillion. So, you know, I have to keep moving the goalposts all the time in the app because yesterday's large cap is now a mid cap and yesterday's mega cap. Probably is now a large cap stock. Okay, Astera Labs is in the news today. Now we're going to start getting into earnings. Astera Labs has got a lot going on for itself. It is one of the chosen few in the ultra growth portfolio, which is up double digits so far this year. And, you know, the Ultra Growth Portfolio, go ahead, look at it. Since inception, I have meticulously kept track of every single buy and sell. I created this portfolio for Seeking Alpha for my subscription model there. And we've kept records since inception, 2019, January the 1st. So it now has a five-year-plus track record. It's done pretty well when you put it up against the S&P 500. Of course, we have it shown if you took out the maximum fees every year versus what you were just trading it on your own in your own portfolio. But Astera is one of those stocks we own. They designed semiconductor-based connectivity solutions to unleash the potential of cloud technology. And AI infrastructure, okay, there's a couple of buzzwords. And I just have to say that Astera has got that kind of growth that big stocks are made of. Whether or not they follow through, it's flat after earnings. It's actually down 2%. but their last three quarters of four quarters of sales up two hundred and seventy percent up six hundred nineteen percent up two hundred and six and up one seventy nine take that dupont uh... out of santa clara california i think we have a client uh... that works for astera labs uh... believe so that's the course were heard in that uh... neck of the woods there on k dow radio where we have a lot of followers i'd love being on that station I've listened to that station for 20 years myself. Every time I visited the Bay Area, I would turn to KDAO. Astera Labs is down a little bit today, but getting some good reviews here. One of the analysts here from, let's see, what company is he with? He's got a buy target on it and says their AI prowess continues to shine. So I think this is one that we're patient with. They are a big, big player in that big, big space, that AI infrastructure space and the cloud. So ALAB. has reported earnings, okay?
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Yeah, they're in that, you know, think of it as sectors and ecosystems, right? They're in that AI ecosystem.
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Speaking of which, SMCI had a big day yesterday out of nowhere, Supermicrocomputer. I just happened to notice it, and it's been very controversial. We have clients that work there, too. Supermicrocomputer had a huge day yesterday, and there is a two-time Supermicrocomputer brought to you by Granite Labs, or Granite Shares. It's down 4%, and they're going to report today after the close. That could be a good one. Get the popcorn ready for that one. And then you've got your soggy stocks, always soggy stocks. You know, we have to put them up by comparison. And, you know, at one time, I mean, Coca-Cola was probably one of the greatest inventions of all time. We had a client in Atlanta. That was one of the most interesting. Their son was the curator of the Coca-Cola Museum. Can you imagine? Now, that's on my bucket list.
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I think it's World of Coke, I think.
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That is on my bucket list. Just to see, I mean, I remember the old billboards, the signs on barns. All of that stuff is worth a lot of money now, Coca-Cola memorabilia. I've seen the old Coca-Cola coolers, right? I mean, it goes on and on and on. But the bottom line is, in today's world, they had a good quarter, but their sales were up 6% year over year. That's organic growth, 6%. It's been about 3% over the last several quarters. So we'll call this a good quarter, but expect single-digit growth and returns in the stock, investing in a company growing at this rate in today's world. It's up 3.4% on the day. We'll be right back.
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You gotta go where you wanna go, do what you wanna do, and live forever. You gotta go where you wanna go, do what you wanna do, and live forever.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. And our next earnings report comes from the 44, number 44 rank out of just over 5,000 stocks. Definitely a stock of today. Okay, we can go back to the Sears catalog. And, in fact, you know, I took all you guys on a tour. Were you on the carriage ride downtown? Yeah, no, we saw the Roebuck house. Yeah, so there's a couple of them. Downtown Charleston is gorgeous. Okay, what can I say? To take a carriage ride down the streets and see some of those classic southern homes are just gorgeous. It's just a beautiful little city. No wonder so many people come here to visit us. And they had some Roebuck houses there. uh that people actually bought the plans out of the sears catalog like what a hundred years ago or something like that yeah it would show up as an erector set i think it may begin i don't know they said maybe 20s or 30s yeah so about 100 years ago would show up so they would you know everything would show up it was like a kit and you put your house together okay now okay we go from the sears catalog then we started to get some of the great department stores and I don't know if you got to Macy's, which is a whole square block downtown New York City in Manhattan. And, of course, Saks Fifth Avenue. Walked by one of those. Woolworth's and some of the great general stores of all time, et cetera, et cetera.
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The best is the real thin escalators, which are on my mind.
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We were thinner back then.
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Now we're wider.
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That's why we need Lily's Zamp Bound. Then we went to the, you know, we started to put stores together in areas and called them malls. I remember the first mall. Well, in San Diego, yeah, Mission Valley Mall and then the Fashion Valley Mall. Then we had one come in downtown, which is no longer there, believe it or not. It got wiped out by... online online sales okay so we went from these general stores to these giant department stores we got into mail order type stuff out of the sears catalog and now we've got shopify okay which is the next generation i consider shopify one of the great stocks of all time and we owned it way back when in the early days of shopify Then they kind of had to sort things out. They had trouble being profitable there for a long time, coming up with the model. And let's not forget eBay. eBay was definitely part in there in the evolution with the online bidding for stuff. eBay is still around. Etsy is another one that's pretty big, selling online homemade wares and whatnot. But Shopify is a mammoth company.
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uh out of canada actually i think ontario yeah ontario canada just they give these brick and mortar yeah they give these brick and mortar places you know i mean that was a big thing during covid where you had you know uh you know call it your mom and pop shop or just your independently owned boutique or whatever your whatever wares you were selling and They had zero online presence, and you could basically use them to get you going pretty quickly in terms of online sales, and they're an online marketplace.
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Think about the overhead you save. I mean, it's not to go to one of these big malls and rent a space. Now a lot of these malls are deserted. They're ghost towns. We have a big one in North Charleston that's just... Maybe there's a pool hall in there or a bowling alley or something, but no longer are the anchor tenants there, JCPenney and Macy's and all of these, etc.
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More medical offices than anything, no?
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Yes, and Shopify is an online mall, okay? $153 billion. I have to admit, I've never ever bought anything online. I'm putting that on my do-to-do list today. I'm going to visit Shopify's website and see what all they have to offer.
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I haven't bought anything on Shopify where I knew it was there. So, you know, I've gone to a website, right, and, you know, maybe I'll buy something. And then the back-end pay feature part, you know, pay side of the business, right, is, you know, the payment side is Shop or Shopify. And so... It's almost like they're doing work for this company on the back end. It didn't necessarily attract me to them, but they're helping link them up and get paid.
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It's always traded at a high multiple. It's 83 PE ratio, but they reported earnings that were up 167% year over year. $0.64 versus $0.24, that's pretty good. That's a really good quarter. If they can keep that up, they're on track. They're up over $2, maybe $2.50 per share in annual earnings now. We'll see if they can keep that up. But I thought they had a really good quarter. Their sales were up 26%. They did $2.1 billion in sales versus $1.7 billion for the same quarter last year. Shopify, in my book, is one of the chosen ones in today's world because they really don't have a competitor out there. A lot of wannabes, a lot of people tried. But it just seems once you get that dominant spot in a space like this, it's very hard to encroach upon it. So we do own Shopify. It's not a dividend payer. It's not a small cap anymore. It's $153 billion. It's a large cap company.
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I'm interested to read the annual report. Yeah, I'm interested to read the comments because they're a Canadian company, and I'm interested to see if potentially any of the tariffs could affect them in a certain way. Yeah, I don't know if the tariffs will affect them or not. Yeah, I'm not sure how all that ties together. That's why I'm interested to read some of the analyst questions at the end of the transcript.
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Dive into another wild episode as we explore the quirky and absurd tales from Florida. This week, an unusual buffet altercation lands an attorney behind bars, and deception leads to unexpected meth trafficking charges. As we laugh at the chaos, there's also room for serious discussions about the financial scams conning unsuspecting victims. Stay tuned for Dana's take on how these stories reflect broader societal issues.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Oh, we are going here. Florida attorney is accused of striking a man with a dinner plate over a buffet etiquette dispute. What? That's right. At Florida Man, it was at the meat station where this happened. Oh. Uh-huh. It's a Florida attorney named Mark Roher, 52. He is accused of assaulting a man with a dinner plate at a wedding reception following a dispute over line cutting at the Boca Lago Country Club in Boca Raton. According to Palm Beach County Jail records, the altercation escalated from a verbal confrontation to a violent incident resulting in Roher's arrest. It happened, Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office detailed the events that transpired It wasn't just a meat station. It was the prime rib cutting station, which is holy in the world of buffets. What happened is two girls apparently cut in front of Roher, who looks like he probably has never missed a meal. And enraged by the breach of etiquette, he confronted the father of one of the girls, and it set off a chain of events and bad parenting that culminated in a physical altercation. There was photos and apparently video, which have not been made available on the Internet, but we all can't wait for that to happen. And they said that Rohrer's actions were unprovoked and aggressive. Witnesses said that he aggressively confronted the victim, and then the violent assault with the dinner plate happened. Onlookers tried to intervene and separate the individuals, but Roher persisted with the dinner plate madness. And he did admit to police that he spoke to the victim, and then he invoked his Miranda rights, but then later provided a statement. He was taken into custody, released on a $1,000 bond after a brief stint in jail. So what have we learned here, ladies and gentlemen? We've learned several things. Don't let your brats cut in front of people at the prime rib cutting station because it's the prime rib cutting station. That's like the Catalina wine mixer of all of the buffet stations. It's not the fruit station. It's not the salad station. That is where you get your slices of delicious prime rib meats. Okay. Very important. Number one. Number two, don't be the meat head that hits people with dinner plates because someone cut in front of you at the meat station. Okay. Pretty sure there's probably still some meat on the bone for this feller. Probably pretty sure that it wasn't his first time through that line. So everybody learns a lesson. We all go home safe and happy and full. Right. There you go. Let's see. A Florida man defrauded a Middlebury woman by posing as a bank. How does this even happen? Dion Henry, 21, of Oakland Park, Florida, is charged with fraud as a level six felony. He tricked a woman into sending him $800 by claiming to be from her bank. Who in the world would believe this? He called her, told her to withdraw $800 and send it via money order to repay an amount that was used from her account at a Walmart in Georgia. The victim told police she sent the money, handed over receipts to verify each transaction, but then she became suspicious that the caller didn't actually work for the bank when he told her to use Cash App Zelle. That was your first indication? Kid Chimney Christmas. Anybody ask me for anything. I always am immediately suspicious. Like, you're a fraud. You're a fraud huckster. So they were able to bust this guy. A Florida man was busted with 16 grams of meth. That's messed up. During a traffic stop. And he's completely cross-eyed in his photo. 41-year-old Chester McKinley. I mean, that's the name that I would think that Chester McKinley has. How is he 41? Have you seen him? That man ain't 41. That's a 70-year-old man pretending to be 40. You know, you'll get methed up. You can't do meth. It was Walton County Sheriff's deputy stopped a truck for an obstructed license plate and the driver admitted to the deputy that he didn't have a driver's license. He was only test driving his friend's truck after he was doing some repair work on it. They detained him, searched the vehicle. Oh, what did they find? They found large plastic bags containing a white crystal-like substance under the middle seat. It weighed about 16 grams and It tested positive for the methamphetamines.
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Yeah, he's, you know.
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How does his one eye look at the other eye like his other eye?
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I feel like there's a National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation joke happening.
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He's looking at his other eye.
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Got kicked in the head by a donkey and went straight. I don't know. So he was arrested, charged with trafficking meth and driving without a license. $50,000 bond. Because apparently he had enough that it was just not for his own personal use. Yeah, $50,000. Florida woman runs over a 71-year-old woman on the beach. Florida woman said she got run over by a truck at Daytona Beach. The alleged driver said she did not see the woman seated in a chair on the sand on the beach where people sit when they go swim in the ocean because it's the beach. Yeah, how do you not see that? She told police, quote, I never seen her. That's the actual quote. You know that. Look, I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say meth or liquor or maybe both. Just saying, you know, just feels like that. Let's see. A central Florida man is accused of stealing appliances from construction sites. I'll have to save that one for you tomorrow. Third hour on the way. Steven Yates will be joining us. You don't want to miss. Stick with us. Our partners that will bring you the program. It's our friends at Caltech, the PR 57. It is a five seven. It's called the PR57, and it's from Kel-Tec, brand new. They launched it, what, just like a couple weeks ago at SHOT Show. And they changed concealed carry back in 95. Now the PR57 rotary barreled pistol chambered in 5.7. It's redefining it with this cutting-edge design and performance. It has this innovative rotary barrel, which makes it the lightest 5.7 on the market. And by that, I mean it's 40% lighter than the next lightest 5.7. I mean, it's crazy how light this is. But it's super well balanced. It has a unique top-loading design that replaces the traditional magazine with a stripper clip. And it has a 20-plus-1 capacity. So the left can finally be accurate in saying clips instead of magazines. And it was inspired by real-world data and defensive needs. I mean, this is a 5.7 that a lady could actually conceal and carry. Low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. Super simple and reliable. Perfect for everyday carry for literally everybody. And it's super affordable. The MSRP is only $399. I mean, you can get this. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com to learn more. Up at the PR57 Rotary Barrel Pistol 5.7. Innovative and actually concealed carry. Innovative performance. Kel-Tec. That's Kel-TecWeapons.com. K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. If you guys watch Ooper Say Old Bay yesterday, we can't say Ooper Say Old Bay because they're very legally proprietary and they will sue you to death. And then YouTube will take you offline to death. But I kind of watch, because you guys know I'm such a football fan. What? Why are you laughing?
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You're who I go to when I have questions.
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Yeah, that's right. That's how it is. Yeah. Yeah. Like the pick six thing that happened.
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Right. That was good.
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Yeah. So Taylor Swift was there. I was glad that we didn't... I liked the photos that I saw from Trump. There was a photo where he was standing up saluting and he was there with his daughter and one of his sons was there and other people in the box. It's the... First time a sitting president has attended the Super Bowl. Sidebar, I can't even imagine the security logistics for that. It makes me tired just thinking about it. Good night. They said there were snipers on rooftops, which, of course, you know, that's true. That happens anytime POTUS goes anywhere. But I would imagine at the stadium you need more. So all of that, he was there, he got applauded. I think we can play that, can't we? Or no? Yeah, we can. Can we play him getting applauded? Yeah. Because I wanted to show you like a difference.
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Yeah, they're both pretty short and these aren't, I don't think there's anything copyright stricken on this. So yeah, we can do that.
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Okay. This is Trump being cheered when they showed him on the Jumbotron at the Aim Gay. Listen. Rule us fine Oh, and they showed him and he's getting cheered. He's getting cheered. And then Taylor Swift was shown. Now, you could say, and I don't think it was all the stadium booing her. Look, I'm not a fan of her music. Just because, not because I think it's bad or it's not, you know, it's poorly written. I mean, clearly she's capable of writing songs well. It's just not my jam at all. And she was shown and was booed mercilessly. And she became a meme. She became that little monkey meme where the monkey looks at the camera and he's like, very, for those not watching the simulcast, I just looked sideways at the camera. So she got booed. I think we have that. This was all merciless. And then she looked at the camera. Oh man, they showed her and she's on the jumbotron and oh, she's getting booed. Okay, so explain something to me here, Kane. Is that just Eagles fans doing it because she's the girlfriend of a Chiefs player?
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Yeah, there is some of that.
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What do you mean some of that?
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Well, because there's also a chant of, you know, F. Taylor Swift. F. Taylor Swift.
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That also could be Eagles fans.
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Yeah, which are all Eagles fans. So, like I said, there are some of that. But based on the cheers of the president and knowing her stance against Trump, I think that some of it also was, we know likey you because of your stance on Trump.
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Well, POTUS tweeted about it, or posted about it. He said, the only one that had a tougher night than the Kansas City Chiefs was Taylor Swift. She got Caps Lock booed out of the stadium. MAGA is very unforgiving. Now, I don't know if it just had to do with MAGA. It could have been just the Eagles fans. But I would have still tweeted the same thing. I'm not going to lie. Quick sidebar. All of the Eagles fans that I know are super sweet. So I don't get the stereotype about Eagles fans. What? I don't get it.
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What are you talking about?
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They're super nice. What are you talking about?
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In what instance have you interacted with Philadelphia Eagles fans?
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When I've been to Philly. Really? Uh-huh.
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The Eagles fans that you hung around with?
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Well, they're there, so they're Eagles fans. One of my friends was at the Super Bowl, and they're real nice, and they're a big-time Eagles fan.
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No, there's Eagles fans, and then there's Eagles fans at games.
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There's not a difference.
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There is.
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I think that's mean. I don't know. I think you're picking on them.
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I think Eagles fans at games are perceived to be more mean than just Eagles fans when there's not a game going on.
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I think Cardinals fans are the most polite fans. St. Louis fans are the politest.
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That is true. Most polite. That's true.
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I don't know. I'm just saying. That's well known. Vegas Larry told... Well, maybe you got something here. Vegas Larry says, quote, Eagles fans booed Santa years ago. Oh! Oh! I mean, he literally gives you free stuff. Ho, ho, ho. And, you know, Merry Christmas. And here's some presents. You know, blah, blah, blah. Reindeer.
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Santa's wearing the other team's colors. Can't have that.
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Oh, my gosh. Unless he shows up. So wait, you got to basically show up in green. And then they're like, wait a minute. Ah, OK, I get it. I get it. That's actually hysterical. Something about that that I find incredibly endearing. Well, anyway, so so POTUS was cheered. Taylor Swift was booed. The world is healing. I don't know. It was called the worst Super Bowl in history. It was bad. Now, I will say I'm not going to I feel weird critiquing someone's passes. At a game. Because it's like the same thing as me. Watching ice skaters do like triple sow cows. And me. Who can't even ice skate going. That was a horrible jump. The technical. The technical was missing so bad. I mean look at the placement of her toe. You know it feels similar. So I saw. Don't laugh at me. I'm not a sports commentator. But I saw. Patrick Mahomes, God love him. He just looked heartbroken. His face was just, oh, but I saw him, you know, throw a pass and it, the other guy caught it like, and it looked like he was throwing for the Eagles. I gotta say he was off balance when he threw it. I could even tell that I'm like, that's not going to go well. And it didn't. And I just, oh, and then it was downhill from there. I also think that if I watch more than 10 minutes of a game, whoever you all want to win will lose. I am very superstitious with this stuff. Oh my gosh, super superstitious with this.
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I'm only a little stitious.
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Oh, man. I think it maybe dovetailed with, I don't know, made me think I had OCD. Like even when I was in high school and sports, I was super, the way I did my laces, the way I like did my spikes, everything. You know, like I had to have, I would, when I was running and when I did four by eight, I would have to, I could not stand to have sweaty hands with a baton. And I would constantly like interchange it. My coach would scream at me like, who cares? It bothered me. I could feel it as I was running and it bothered me. It's just weird things. And, yeah, and see, that's the place where you can be superstitious, right? And I would wear the same because my high school's colors were red and white, and I would wear, like, only red that day. And, oh, my gosh, if I did, oh, my gosh, I would wear something dirty if I didn't have anything clean. I don't even care. Very superstitious. That said, I don't think I should watch, like, any more of the Super Bowls or Bowls Supers. I was talking about my giant cereal bowl. Thank you. Nazi. Nazi. Anyway, the commercials, well, okay, first halftime show. Kendrick Lamar, not my cup of tea. I don't, he's not like heavy enough. That's fine. He's, you know, a Pulitzer Prize winner. He's like this famed lyricist. I don't care. That's great. Not everything translates to that kind of audience, right? When people are watching the Super Bowl halftime show, they're drunk, they're snacking, they're rowdy. They want to have a good time. They don't want any deep dives into anything. They just want to have fun. And there's nothing wrong with that. And I'm not saying that his music is bad. I'm just saying that it doesn't translate to that type of it does not have the energy that was required for that national stage like that, for a Super Bowl. Just different. Like if you're going to have like a hip hop performance, like when they had Snoop out and who else did they have like a couple of years ago? They had everybody. That was fun. It was energetic. You know, I just felt like that was lacking with us. I don't know. I loved the, like I said, the horns and all of that stuff in the beginning. I also, some of the commercials were, I feel like we're going to need a little time to talk about those. Let's get in the commercials here coming up because I will say there was one commercial that's getting ratioed into a hole in the ground and that's the He Gets Us one. You had Pfizer that had a commercial. Then they had a commercial. I think you can, while I think that they were, you know, being clever, I do think that it was kind of inappropriate, the one about breast cancer. Like it was literally about breasts and then they were like, oh, and cancer. And then they got like, what's her face, Wanda. You know, when you think of like big boobs and ladies, you think of, you know, the very not feminine female comedian. Just saying. I don't know. I thought that was a little over the top. There were some that were just kind of crazy. The one with Snoop and Tom Brady where they were pretending to hate each other and then Snoop said, I can't believe we have to make an ad about this. Okay, just a reminder. Correct me if I'm wrong here, which is a rhetorical tool, as I'm always accurate. He did do a video where he shot a replica of POTUS in the head, correct? Yeah. Okay. He did that. All right. So I think what's missing here is any kind of acknowledgement of culpability in the heat as it pertains to rhetoric, right? Just saying. Because... He's no mild or small-time influencer. All right? It's Snoop Dogg. He's... You know, we grew up with him. I just think that you owe a little more to the audience than just that, right? I mean, it's nice. It was a nice attempt. And I know that he's, I guess, on the POTUS train now because POTUS pardoned somebody, a friend of his or whatever, who was in prison. I get it. But... You have to realize, and I think one of the things that the right doesn't always realize, is that a lot of the celebrity support, especially like newfound celebrity support, it hasn't dawned on them yet that the support is transactional. There's support and then there's transactional support. Transactional support means that that support can go and be transacted elsewhere. So something to keep in mind as people... You know, as this discussion continues. The He Gets Us Super Bowl ad is being raised because it's soft, happy, friendly BFF Jesus. And they used the cover of... Nine Inch Nails song that Johnny Cash covered on a Rick Rubin album, which was phenomenal. And I saw someone saying, well, they used a story. It was Depeche Mode making a mockery of faith. I don't know if you would go so far as to say that of Dave Gahan and Depeche Mode. And I'm a huge Depeche Mode fan. It's one of my favorite groups. It was also questioning and also mocking one's own faith. an ability to, to believe in something. So it was a lot deeper than that. But that aside, uh, Johnny Cash's cover was great and it, he made it where it was his own and it was a sincere expression of faith and questioning. And, um, some people were saying that the ad was to, um, milk toast and that it was, you know, the happy BFF Jesus who never condemns anyone. I think that those concerns are legitimate. I also think that that's if you read the Gospels and you see that, yes, Jesus was very, you know, this is to come to the to come to the fathers to come through me. However, not everything has to be brimstone. History shows gold and silver thrive under strong leadership. During President Trump's first term, gold surged 53 percent and silver soared 51 percent. With him back, could precious metals break new records in 2025 and beyond? In times of economic uncertainty, smart investors turn to assets that have proven their worth. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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It's already 1230? Headline to me. Yay! Let's see. Ooh, apparently the real Iron Man exists. So it is the real-life Iron Man. Okay, flashback. Do you guys remember seeing the video? We played it on the show of this guy in a jet pack literally landing on a military ship. This guy, that's the real-life Iron Man. So he made a deal with the military to use his futuristic jet suit that allows soldiers to soar over war zones at 85 miles per hour plus. Dude, the guy, he's a British engineer. Richard Browning is on a mission to bring jetpacks to the military. His futuristic jet suit uses five gas turbines to retight of up to 20 feet at an impressive speeds of 85 miles per hour. Can you imagine? Like that's scarier than a drone. What if you also had like guns like attached to the tops of your arms? And you can just like punch and it shoots a bullet. I'm just saying. So it is very, you can actually fly in a non-weaponized jet. They don't have them weaponized yet. My first thought was to put guns all over it. At about $8,000. If you're at Goodwood Estate in California. yeah to do that i don't know why but it looks pretty cool i would do it i'd totally do it in a heartbeat oh my gosh and i'd fly the hell away with it although they could probably remotely disable anyway i need to move uh let's see sports betting the risk of gambling addiction rises too dur we think sports betting is new zealand is changing to golden visas to lure wealthy immigrants I guess because all of their productive people left because their former prime minister was a loon. So they need help. Let's see. What is this? A Gen X dance party that ends at 10 p.m. is taking off across the U.S. It's a new fad. It's founded in Chicago by two friends in their 40s. It's called the Early Birds Club. And people can let loose but then go home by 10. Everything ends at 10. It starts at 6 and ends at 10. Actually, that sounds lovely. I mean, half of the time, I don't want to go. I'm just saying. Oh, let's see. And the FDA recalls more than 2 million cases of donuts. I don't know. They said they could be contaminated with listeria, and it's FGF brands in the U.S. and Canada. Stick with us. We've got more in store. We've been covering, and I am amazed at the progressive... freak out over Doge and one of the things that I said last week was if you guys remember remember this I was questioning what you guys would do in this situation like if you had someone like I have my public Facebook page and I have my private Facebook page and my private Facebook page now I have a couple friends on there that are a little bit you know that I've known since I lived in St. Louis and they're not correct about politics. Let's just, they lean pretty left. But we've always been friends and I don't do tribalism. However. They have been freaking out over the Elon Musk stuff, right? Like, oh, call your lawmakers. Can you believe these people have this access? And I'm like, what makes you think that? Why is it not okay for three nerds to have read-only access, but you have not said anything about all of these people in government, unelected bureaucrats, who hate you, by the way, who had access to all of your vital information? You didn't elect any of them. So... Why are they only just now concerned? And especially, they weren't mad when these people were spending your money, but now they're mad that the unelected nerds with read-only access are saying, now stop spending this money. That's what's making them mad. And they're trying to use scare tactics to freak everyone out. So I've seen that you're going to get AIDS. We're going to die in a hellfire. Our kids are going to not ever have teachers again. All the old people will die. What else? I could actually sit here and do this for forever. Audio sub 8-6. Listen to this. Listen to Chris Murphy. Lose his mind. These people are freaking out. Listen.
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Listen, I think this is the most serious constitutional crisis the country has faced. Certainly since Watergate, the president is attempting to seize control of power and for corrupt purposes. The president wants to be able to decide how and where money is spent so that he can reward his political friends. He can punish political enemies. That is the evisceration of democracy.
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I got my stress guy. It's called Panic Pete. This is what they make me feel like. So, Chris Murphy, everything is a constitutional crisis. Oh, my gosh. How is it a constitutional crisis? Once more. Once more. The executive branch, underneath the executive branch is the Treasury Department. The Treasury Department answers to the executive branch. Who is the executive? Once more, Cain. Cain. President of the United States, a.k.a. Mr. President, a.k.a. POTUS, completely constitutionally within his purview. That's not even up for debate. That's why this is all so stupid. What is up for debate is everything that is not Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution being spent and serviced. If you want to have a discussion about a constitutional crisis, it is everything that we are doing in our federal government outside of that constitutional scope. Article 1, Section 8. Insane. That's a constitutional crisis. Oh my gosh. They're losing their minds over this. And they're acting as though I mean, when you hear some of the fear mongering, our democracy is under siege, say Democrats. Then they had the New York Post, they had this headline where, according to the, again, this is the U.N. AIDS agency, all these millions of people are going to die from AIDS if we stop giving countries money to study gay sex. That's ultimately what they're saying because they were referencing programs within USAID, which I even think is a stretch because it's drug users also, intravenous drug users. But also, how much money have we spent in the past, I don't know how many decades, telling people how not to get sexually transmitted diseases? Kane, if you had to wager a guess, how much would it be?
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How many, what, decades?
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How much do you think we've spent over the decades on telling people how you procreate?
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I would say it's close to a trillion. I mean, we've been doing it since the 80s. So I would say it's probably a trillion or more.
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Yeah. Boy, it's really worked out, hasn't it? Apparently not. Without all this government spending, people are just, what's going to happen? Without the government paying PSAs for you to not step into traffic, people are just going to be walking right into traffic and dying, Cain.
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Wait, so our billions of dollars to this quote unquote cause was the only wall holding AIDS back?
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That's right. Our taxpayer dollars were literally holding back the AIDS.
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Wow.
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I know. And now we're taking those dollars away so the AIDS is just going to come. Right back. All the AIDS is coming like a tsunami of AIDS. 525,600 minutes. That's the only thing I know from that play about AIDS. rent aids is what it was called so bird flu aids oh gosh pick your pick the way you're gonna die if you don't pay off the plague it's gonna kill you we just need the government for all we just need yeah we need the government protect us oh government said nobody ever i i don't know but that's what they're just they're oh the hill They have their title wave of resistance is coming for Elon Musk. Really? These people are so stupid. Have you seen them? They couldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight, these people. Well, the resistance is coming. The resistance is coming. Gosh, make our day. So done with us. What is wrong with people when someone's like, hey, look, your government is wasting per trillions of your dollars. Let's stop it. And then the left out there goes, oh, no. We'll all die of AIDS. No, we won't. What the hell is wrong with you? Why do you need all this money? I'm just shocked. That here you have these dorks doing you a favor. Because they don't even get paid. Saying, hey, we found this spending. You know, pushing their little glasses up on their nose, their little pocket protector. Like, hey, we found all this extra spending. Maybe you guys want to cut it. And the left loses their minds. How dare you save us money? You know why? Because they're not the ones paying tax. Think about it. I bet I pay more tax than Barack Obama. Oh, I know I pay me some more tax than the Bidens. I mean, hell, if I didn't have any kind of moral compass, I would be fleecing everybody right and left. I'm going to tell you something. It's not just Democrats either. I'm sure you've seen some of these stories with some of these conservative organizations that have been on the dole for USAID. Shall I name some of them? to be able to say was one, which is sad because that's a great group. And I was kind of sad to see them listed. I saw someone trying to explain and gaslight me into how grant money works. That's not how grant money works, sweet cheeks. It's not at all. God love you, but it's not. It goes to show you that there has been a lackadaisical attitude towards accountability that has not just been pervasive on the left. It has been almost equally so on the right. don't think for a second that they're, and I don't care. I don't care who it is. Any group on the dole of USAID should be dragged. I don't care if they're Republicans. I don't care. I had a friend tell me, well, you know, we shouldn't really criticize some of these Republican groups that were on the dole for USAID. You know, the left is using that as, you know, they're really using that to divide the right. No, no, no, that's not my problem. My problem is that I pay six figures, mid to upper six figures in taxes. No joke. And you're now telling me that I can't equally criticize anybody on the right or left who stole our taxpayer dollars to use to pad their pockets because the left might use that and weaponize it against the right. Anybody who took that and they're on the right, they're not on my side. They're traitors to the Constitution. They're traitors to the conservative movement. And they've been fleecing you while pretending to service you. That's my problem. I don't care who all is brought down. Bring them all down. I'm here to get, I want to get rid of it. All of it. And I don't care who goes out with it. If you've been taking the money, bye. I don't care. This is why I hate tribalism. Tribalism prevents true accountability. You can still say you're a hardcore constitutionalist and you're a hardcore conservative and you are all about conserving individual power and you want to limit big government and you can still say, you know this group right here that says they agree with me, why were they taking this amount of money? I don't even care if it was less than some of these other groups. Why were they taking any? Accountability for all means accountability for all. There is no discrimination with that. True patriots who want to end this, they know this truth. That's why they are unmoved by these arguments from the left saying, oh, well, but this person. Nope. That's not it at all. Not at all. So I'm all for, you know, then you've got this guy. Can we play this? I guess I'm at 11. So this is now this is from what I understand, an Article three judge. So an order. So the judge referenced here, you had a judge who's trying to put a limitation on the executive order. Trump being able to hold accountable the Treasury, which I think is stupid because that's unconstitutional. However, to remove this judge, you have to have the House do it and the Senate has to convict. You have to impeach him when it's a judge at this level. But audio soundbite 11. This is a judge who decided, no, no, no. Trump is the executive and the executive doesn't get to say what the executive branch does with the executive authority. What? Trump responds.
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We're going to see what happens. We have a long way to go. And we're talking about fraud.
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waste, abuse. And when a president can't look for fraud and waste and abuse, we don't have a country anymore. So we're very disappointed with the judges that would make such a ruling. But we have a long way to go. We have to look. We have to find all of the fraud that's going on. We have tremendous fraud, tremendous waste and tremendous abuse. And theft, by the way. And the day you're not allowed to look for theft and fraud, etc., then we don't have much of a country. So no judge should be... no judge should frankly be allowed to make that kind of a decision. It's a disgrace.
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And I don't see how the judge can't. I know some people say, oh, we've got to get rid of that judge, but because it's in Article 3, the way that the selection process for a judge of that level, you have to have the House and Senate be involved. Audio soundbite 7. But see this? Now, I showed you there was one survey that had a 61% approval of Trump. There's another one that has 53. Listen to CNN, what they had to say about the approval of everything Trump's been doing. Audio soundbite 7.
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You know, I think one of the things that's so important for politicians is for folks to believe what they're saying and that they're keeping their campaign promises. So I think this gives you a pretty gosh darn good idea of what may be going on. Trump's doing what he promised to do. You go back to April of 2017. It was just 46 percent. of all Americans who said that Trump was doing what he promised to do. Compare that now to February of 2025. You know, there was a good show that was on during the 1990s called A Different World. That is what's going on right now. We're living in a different world. Seventy percent of Americans say Trump is doing what he promised to do. Again, compare that to April of 2017, when it's just 46 percent, when Americans are 24 points behind.
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That's huge. And the left, they have no way to combat this. The only thing that they have to do is what they've always done, complete hysteria. But where do they go from there? You can't just say, uh-uh. You can't. This is why, by the way, this is why it's so important for these states, every red state, to be able to mobilize and help back up his agenda state by state. Now you're seeing why I've been getting so infuriated at rhinos in Florida and in Texas. Now you get it, why they deserve all your scorn too.
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Join Rick Hughes on The Flatline as he unravels the teachings of faithfulness discussed in 1 Corinthians. Central to this episode is the message of living in a way that truly reflects God's unwavering faithfulness despite human imperfections. Rick shares how believers can use faithfulness as a tool to navigate life's challenges, avoid stress, and maintain a clear conscience in the eyes of God. Through scripture analysis and personal insights, the episode highlights key strategies for avoiding sin, overcoming guilt, and recovering from failure. Listeners can expect to be inspired by tales of resilience and faith found in the Bible, and learn how these lessons apply to daily life. Whether it’s about sharing the gospel boldly or dealing with personal trials without fear, this episode answers crucial questions about being steadfast in one's Christian faith. Gain richer insight into the dynamics of faithfulness and discover why it's integral to experiencing the fullness of God's grace and mercy.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stay with me. It won't be long, 30 minutes of motivation, inspiration, education, and all is done without any type of manipulation or solicitation because we're not here trying to hustle you for money. We're here to give you information. Information that will help you orient and adjust to the plan of God. If you're indeed interested, and if you're not, well, then have a nice day. Move on down the road and do what you want to do. But I can tell you one thing. You can be on your own. You don't want to do that. God has a wonderful plan for your life, a wonderful way for you to live, a way with no stress in your soul, no worry, no fear, no anxiety, no anger. It's a wonderful life. It's called the Christian life. And if you learn how the flatline operates, if you learn those 10 problem-solving devices in your life, And you can apply them to those circumstances and you can live and stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside source of stress. I wish I could see who's listening. I don't have a clue. I know we're playing in over 100 cities today across America. But I don't know where you are, if you're at home or if you're in your car. If you're listening or not listening, we have no way of knowing. So I pray, I study, I prepare, I pray, and I come to the recording studio. I record these messages for you, and hopefully God will use them in your life to encourage you and motivate you. Today we want to talk about being faithful, being faithful. A lot of people talk to me about that. Are you a faithful believer? Let's start off by looking at 1 Corinthians 4, chapter 4, verse 2. Paul made this statement to the church at Corinth. He said, Moreover, it's required in stewards that a man be found faithful, that a man be found faithful. In 1 Corinthians 4, 17, Paul wrote these words. For this cause have I sent unto you Timothy, who is my beloved son and faithful in the Lord. Prepositional phrase, in the Lord, in the kurios. That's a wonderful thing for God to say he's faithful. And I wonder if God can say that to you and to me. Are we faithful? In this particular letter to the Corinthians, Paul is addressing a controversy in Corinth. And that was a division of the church. His main concern was the faithful communication of the scriptures or the letters of what he wrote. They didn't have a Bible like you and I have, but they had the communication of the scriptures that he wrote to them and the letters he wrote to them. And he wanted those retaught and retaught accurately. So he also warned the church about judging other people in verse five of 1 Corinthians 4, verse five. And he warned them about their pride in verse six and seven. But he used himself and the other apostles as examples in verses 9 and 10 of 1 Corinthians chapter 4. And he described his physical abuse as an indication of his faithfulness and his obedience in verse 11 through 13 of chapter 4, 1 Corinthians. And he challenged them to follow the example that he left for them in verses 15 through 16 of chapter 4, 1 Corinthians. The faithfulness of Paul, or the word fidelity, the fidelity of Paul is an example to each one of us because faithfulness is a genuine attribute of the mature believer's life. as well as an attribute of our god who's very faithful listen to this lamentation 3 22 it is of the lord's mercies that we are not consumed because his compassions fail not they are new every morning great is thy faithfulness yes he is our god is a faithful god and expects the same fidelity out of us In 2 Timothy 2, verse 13, if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful, because he cannot deny himself. What does that mean? It means he's trustworthy. When you give your life to the Lord Jesus Christ, when you accept him as your savior, God doesn't take it back. He's not going to abandon you. There may even come a time in your life where you don't even believe you did it. You may say, I know I accepted Christ when I was young, but I don't believe that anymore. Listen to the verse. If we believe not, yet he abides faithful because he cannot deny himself. What does that mean? It means when you enter the royal family of God, you become a child of God. And for God to kick you out, he'd have to kick his own children out. He's not going to kick you out. You are royal family. You may get under discipline, and he may encourage you to rebound and recover from your sin, but he's not going to disown you. If we believe not, he still abides faithful. In 1 John 1, 9, we find another word about faithful where we use this one every day in the rebound technique. That's the first problem-solving device every Christian has to learn. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That's the faithfulness of God. When you name a sin to God, He will forgive you and cleanse you of that. And I know you're saying, I can't remember all of my sins. Nobody can. But he says, it says, and just to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. What does that mean? That even means the one you don't remember. So when you go to the Father, You use the rebound technique of 1 John 1, 9, and you admit a sin. He's faithful to cleanse you of that sin and to put you back in fellowship. Your sins have been cleansed in your position, but we're talking now about your experience that quenches and grieves the Holy Spirit. In 1 Corinthians 10, 13, there is no temptation taken you such as is common to man. Hang on to your hat now, listen, but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you're able, but will with the temptation also make a way to escape so that you may be able to bear it. I was talking to a dear friend today who has a tremendous business, and that business is facing some adversity, and I said, look, God is faithful. He's not going to throw you under the bus. He's not going to abandon you. You may look like things are impossible, like the Jews when they came to the Red Sea. It looked like it was impossible. It looked like they were going to die, but they didn't. God was faithful to deliver them. The Greek word for faithful is the word pistos, P-I-S-T-O-S. It comes from the word pistos, which is faith. And it means he's reliable or he's dependable. So the question that we have to ask ourselves is this, can God trust us? Are we reliable? Or are we trustworthy? Are we faithful individuals? God has entrusted us with something, and that's the message of the truth, the gospel message. He gave it to us. We know about it. We know how to tell people not to go to hell. We know how to tell them how they can have eternal life. But the question is, are we faithful to give that message to those that we meet? Are we timid about it? Do we back off about it? There's nothing wrong with asking a simple question. If you die today, would you go to heaven? That's a simple question, and you're not invading anyone's privacy if you ask them that question. And they may say, well, I'm not sure. And that's an opportunity for you to tell them how they can be sure, how they can know for a fact. He that believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. He that believeth not, the wrath of God abides on him forever. So the Greek word pistos, faithful, is what we must be. If I quote Monsa's Bible Dictionary, here's what it says. To be faithful in the book of Revelation is to refuse to compromise the Christian faith, even in the face of persecution or martyrdom. And that's a question you have to ask yourself. If you faced persecution, potentially martyrdom, would you refuse to compromise your Christian faith? Are you faithful? Faithfulness is listed as a fruit of the Spirit in Galatians 5.22. Where the Bible says the fruit of the Spirit is love and joy and peace and patience and kindness and goodness and faithfulness, gentleness, self-control against such thing, there is no law. So part of the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to give you the strength through the filling of the Holy Spirit to remain faithful. But when you quench the Holy Spirit and when you grieve the Holy Spirit, most likely you lose your fidelity and you do not remain faithful. But the lifestyle of the mature believer must demonstrate this faithfulness. The lifestyle of the mature believer must demonstrate trustworthiness and reliability and obviously complete integrity. And this is simply a reflection of God's wonderful essence to us. In Exodus 34, six, the Lord passed by in front of him and proclaimed, the Lord is the Lord God. He is compassionate, merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in faithfulness and in truth. Listen, that's what we must be. This is us. We must be compassionate. We must be merciful. We must be slow to anger and abound in faithfulness and in truth. Here's some principles I want you to remember about faithfulness. One, the faithful believer is marked by obedience motivated by personal love for God. 1 John 5, 3, for this is the love of God, this is it, now listen, here it is, that we keep his mandates and they are not a burden. If you love God, you will obey God. That's a faithful believer. What motivates you to obey God is your love for God. Two, the faithful believer will advance to spiritual maturity by learning and applying the word of God in a consistent manner in his life. In 2 Timothy 2.15, the Bible says, be diligent. Diligent, what does that mean? That's the Greek word spoudazo. It means to make an effort. Make an effort to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately dividing the word of truth. So God wants you to be diligent, to be faithful. This shame it talks about, so that we don't have to be ashamed, that comes at the judgment seat of Christ in 1 Corinthians 3, 10 through 15. And this is when our works are evaluated, whether they're divine good or human good. And all human good is burned up as if it's wood, hay, and stubble. So point three, the unfaithful believer wants all the gifts from God, but refuses to honor and obey the giver. And that's a great principle. Do you love the gifts more than the giver? Because the giver says, I'm willing to give you the gifts, but I'd like for you to be faithful. Point four, All faithfulness in the human realm resides, first of all, in the soul, in the mentality of the soul, in what you think. Because faithfulness is a mental attitude. It's a mental attitude to something in which you love, something that you respect, something that you admire or recognize as authority. And if you do that with God and you're faithful, then that's your mental attitude. Faithfulness is your mental attitude first and then your physical action second. In regards to personal sin, if we are faithful to confess that sin, that's if we do it, then he's faithful to forgive our sin. He doesn't compromise his integrity when he forgives us since he knew our sin in eternity past and he imputed every one of them to Christ Jesus. Remember the Bible said, he that knew no sin was made sin for us so that we might be made the righteousness of God through him. So you're not shocking God when you confess sin. He already knew about it in eternity past. He knew every sin you would ever commit, even the sins you got coming up in the future. And that's why he provided a way for you to be cleansed by using 1 John 1, 9 as a Christian. The worst thing you can do as a believer is to be unfaithful to use that verse. So to try to make your sins up to God. Promise God you're never going to do it again or go on some kind of tangent. I won't do that ever again, God, I promise. And that's wrong. You probably will do it again because you have a sin nature. So point six, since the day you received the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, you have been given opportunities to provide or prove your appreciation for God's grace. by obeying his mandates. And in regards to personal sin, listen carefully, we face a dual test. Can we avoid the sin that so easily affects us, or will we faithfully admit our sin when it occurs? That's the test. Are you gonna do it? And if you do it, will you confess it? And God doesn't give you an okay to go ahead and sin. That's not what I'm saying. But he knows you have a sinful nature. He knows you have lust patterns and trends. And you're still alive. You're still here because he's made provision where you can be cleansed from your sin. His faithfulness to you and your faithfulness to him is to try to avoid that sin. So, point seven, one of the biggest areas of failure can be found in 1 Peter, chapter two, verse one. Here's the words. Therefore, lay aside all malice, lay aside all deceit, lay aside all hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking. Put that aside. Now, the word malice, kakia, is the Greek word, means wickedness or the intent to do harm to an individual to hurt them. lay aside the desire to hurt somebody and lay aside all deceit no loss all fraud all sin of misleading or misrepresenting yourself to be something you're not or lying to somebody about something and uh lay aside all hypocrisy acting like one way when you secretly live another way Lay aside all envy, which is jealousy. Lay aside all evil speaking, which is katalalia, and that's your maligning or slandering another individual. That's some big sins right there. Lay aside malice, deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking. So if you're a faithful believer, you've got to learn to avoid these types of sins along with any other weakness or any other trend of your sinful nature. So being faithful to God, now listen carefully, It does not mean you will never commit any sin whatsoever. In 1 John 1.8, the Bible says this, if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Peter, our apostle Peter, failed our Lord on the night of his arrest. Moses failed our Lord at the second test of Meribah. David failed our Lord with Bathsheba. And you and I have failed the Lord as well. Nobody's perfect. We all have a sin nature. And we all have to be faithful to confess our sin when we fail. So in spite of our best efforts, we're going to fail as well because you know we have that sin nature. But if we don't recover from the sin, that's the lack of faithfulness in our life. You know what Satan loves to do? He loves to introduce you to guilt. He loves to make you feel sorry for your sins. He loves to make you go sit in a corner and suck your thumb and say, oh, if I was really a Christian, I wouldn't have done that. Yes, you would. Yes, you did. The issue is not do you feel guilty that you did it. The issue is you would not have committed the sin to start with if you didn't want to, but rather will you be faithful to admit the sin and recover from the sin so that your spiritual life doesn't stall out. That's why God gave you that recovery process. You know, he knows your weaknesses and mine, he knows that. 2 Corinthians 12, nine, and he said to me, my grace is sufficient for you, for my strength is made perfect in weakness. That's what Paul said, God said to Paul in 2 Corinthians chapter 12. Therefore, most gladly, I would rather boast in my infirmities that the power of Christ may rest upon me. So God's grace is available in our weaknesses. He knows our weaknesses. How does he know that? How does he know what we're thinking? Well listen to Jeremiah 17 10. I the Lord search the heart and I test the mind, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doing. So God can read your mind. That's the omniscience of God. He knows what you're thinking. You can't pull the wool over God's eyes. You can't deceive God. He knows what you're like. And the faithful believer, the believer that I'm talking about, will recover from his failures, not try to hide it, not try to lie about it, and definitely not be discouraged when he fails. Don't get full of guilt. Don't have a pity party and go sit in the corner and think, oh, me, if I was really saved, I wouldn't have done that. Yes, you are saved, and yes, you did that. Confess that sin, get up, and move on. Your faithfulness to God demands you respect God. In Revelation 4.11, you are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they exist and they were created. So faithfulness demands respect. Do you respect the God that you claim you love? Do you respect the God that saved you? That's a very important issue. Do you respect God? Faithfulness demands respect, Revelation 4.11. In 1 Corinthians 10.31, therefore, whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, here comes the respect for God now. Do all for the glory of God. And in Psalm 86.12, I will praise you, O Lord my God, with all of my heart, and I will glorify your name forevermore. That's your faithfulness, to respect your God and to glorify Him. Our Lord Jesus is the King of kings and the Lord of lords. The Bible tells us that. I hate to shock you, but He's not your buddy. When you use His name, show respect. When you pray to the Father, show respect. In 1 Timothy 1.17, now to the King eternal. immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever, amen. That's respect. That's your respect. You have a heavenly Father, and you have a Savior, the anointed Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. And he's not your buddy, and he should not be treated as your buddy, but as your Lord and your King. So a faithful believer is respectful. Respectful. Here's another thing. A faithful believer is merciful. Merciful. In Luke 6, 36, therefore be merciful just as your father also is merciful. God wants you to show mercy. In Matthew 5, 7, blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy. Are you merciful? Is that you? The faithful believer is also a thankful believer. Not only is he merciful, not only is he faithful, but he's also thankful. Thankful for what? In First Chronicles 1634, oh give thanks to the Lord for he is good. For his mercy, we studied that last week, his mercy endures forever. Are you thankful for God's mercy? He who knew no sin was made sin for you, are you thankful for that? That Christ took your place, that you don't have to go to the cross? He did it instead of you? In 1 Thessalonians 5, 18, in everything, talking about being thankful now, listen, in everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. Now that's important that you understand, in everything, not just in the things you like, but also in the things you don't like. For this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. God doesn't make mistakes. Whenever it comes into your life, he's aware of it. He knows about it. And your job is to thank him because his plan is perfect. We are not perfect. We may not understand the plan. We may not know it all, but he is absolutely perfect. and he doesn't make a mistake. So in everything, be thankful. That's the faithfulness of a believer. A believer who's faithful is merciful. A believer who is faithful is thankful. And that believer uses that thankfulness as a measure of his capacity for happiness. You're supposed to be happy. God designed you to be happy. That's what the whole thing is about. He doesn't want you to be unhappy. And your thankfulness, when you have that thankfulness, it includes your tranquility or relaxed mental attitude where you have contentment and you have capacity for life. What a wonderful way to live, having thankfulness for everything, whatever comes into your life, not griping, not complaining, not groaning, not having a pity party, woe is me, I can't do this, and this happened, that happened. Be thankful. Be thankful. I mean, I could give some silly illustrations, but think of the things that have happened to you and you were not thankful about them. You griped about it. You complained about it. You fumed about it. And you think God didn't know about your lack of faithfulness? Because it says here we're supposed to thank him for everything. Thankfulness is best seen in our gratitude or in our appreciation for what God has done for us. in our life and in our circumstances. He's not throwing us under the bus. He hasn't abandoned us. It's all right there for us. What a wonderful thing it is. So if you're not thankful for what you do have, you will always complain of what you don't have. You hear me? If you're not thankful for what you do have, you will always complain about what you do not have. So in conclusion, before we review it a little bit, The faithful believer should be respectful of God, merciful towards others, thankful to God for all things, never doubting, never complaining, always full of appreciation for what God has done. Remember Colossians 3 verse 2, set your mind on things above, not just on the earthly things. So you have to learn to think in a different dimension, in a different realm. You don't belong here. You're just passing through. The Bible says you're a sojourner. This is not your home. Now that you've accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, you have an eternal destiny. The Lord Jesus Christ told the disciples, I'm going to prepare a place for you so that where I am, you may be also. So he hasn't abandoned you. This is not the end of the road. You're not stuck here forever. But the idea is that while you are here, while you are in the human realm, that you learn God's word, apply God's word, glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by replicating his life, replicating the way that he thinks. That's why the Bible says, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. That's the thankfulness we're looking for. The believer who's actually thankful for the word, for the scripture, the believer who's thankful for a well-qualified pastor that can teach him the word, and the believer who's faithful to always name his sin quickly when he commits them. Not a believer who's perfect, because if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, 1 John 1.8. But a believer who knows he's a flawed individual, a believer who knows how to recover, and a believer who knows how to advance. You know, when I played football at the University of Alabama, I got blocked. I got knocked down, but I didn't stay on the ground. I got up, dusted myself off, and went back into the huddle, tried not to get blocked the next time. We're all going to fail. We're all going to make mistakes, but God is faithful. He's not going to throw us under the bus. He's not going to abandon us. He's not going to leave us. He still loves you. The question is, are you faithful to love him back? Do you obey him? Because if you love him, you will obey him. 1 John 5 tells us that. And that's the proof that you love God, that you obey him. What a wonderful message to study today. Our faithfulness, motivated by the faithfulness of God. I hope it's encouraged you, and I hope you'll come back next week, same time, same place. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, host of the Flatline Radio Show. You can always go to our website, rickhughesministries.org, and order any of our books. We have lots of books that have been available, printed free of charge, especially the book dealing with Christian problem-solving that shows you all 10 problem-solving devices. and a book that we've written for young people called Life's Toughest Years. And we especially have that book on God's grace and aging for people like you and me that are getting older. God's grace and aging. If you don't have it, go to the website and order it, and we'll get it out to you immediately free of charge. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for being with me today, wherever you are, and thank God for giving me the privilege to bring you The Flatline.
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Join Kim Munson as she brings forward an invigorating dialogue on the crucial issues facing our nation. This episode sheds light on the dynamic between governmental force and personal freedom, emphasizing the foundational rights that govern our lives. Engage with the thought-provoking reflections on current political trends, national discourse, and the cultural revival echoing in households across America. The conversation with Kevin Lundberg highlights developments on both state and national stages, providing a comprehensive look at the reawakened pursuit of liberty.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And you and Producer Luke will be my featured guests in hour number two. We're going to finish up our book report on economics in one lesson. So I'm excited to do that, Producer Joe.
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I am too. It should be a really good conversation.
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I think so. I've learned a lot. And I'd actually read the book before. But I've really learned a lot. And I've learned a lot talking with you young guns as well. So it's going to be a good conversation in the second hour. And I really do appreciate that. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. You can sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my friends, it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, childhoods. or lives via force. Force can be a weapon, but it can be a policy. Unpredictable in excess of taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, that silent thief, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalists, and these all fit in together, the United Nations, this Colorado State Legislature, what they're pushing forward with this governor, land use code, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, All of that comes down to force, and we need to be walking that back. That seems like what the Donald Trump administration is attempting to do, and oh my, there are many that are now saying that they liked all of this grift and graft and fraud and abuse, Producer Joe.
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Why would they like that?
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It certainly has been so interesting to watch what is going on. And certainly we don't want to govern our country by executive order, but executive order is needed at this point to walk this stuff back. Then Congress needs to step up and do their job, and we need to reclaim our constitutional republic. So we really are, my friends, in the third founding, I think, of our country. It's an exciting time. It's a dangerous time. There's all kinds of things going on. But we will focus on the issues and the people that are pushing them, but we're not going to get over in the personalities. We're really trying to stay out of that and stay focused on the message. The show, you can hear it 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. That is on all KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 a.m., KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. Then we do post the shows with a written summary on my website, kimmunson.com. And then you can also hear the shows, stream them via Spotify, iTunes, and all of those streaming services. I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. We have taken it for granted, reliable, efficient, and affordable, and abundant energy or electricity that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. When it is so cold out today, we're not having to go out and get wood to continue to tend the fire, which takes a lot of time and energy, And Joe, I think you said as a kid, you had that experience at one of your grandparents' house. And it is a lot of work to heat a home by wood.
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Yes, and it is a lot of work to make sure you have the wood cut and that you have the wood stacked and that you tend that fire so that it doesn't go out. And so thank you again to all of this reliable energy that we have. Last night was our Colorado Union of Taxpayers board meeting, and what an amazing group of people that I get to work with. And this is an all-volunteer group that we are watching legislation down at the Statehouse, and I probably need to give you an update on how many pieces... of legislation have been introduced so far down at the State House, so hang with me. I will get that here in just a second. But this group, when you see them out and about, say thank you to them. And this is my fellow board members, Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamel, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, and we are very pleased to welcome uh ray and paula beard to the board as well and uh so we have a just a stellar group and uh okay as of this morning there have been 398 bills that have been introduced down at the state house and we don't need another another bill i need to somehow go through and see if i can count how many words that is producer joe now some of these bills are to get rid of some things but most of them by this radical activist democrat group that has taken over the democrat party most of these are more and more control over our lives joe and who are they to govern they're supposed to be representatives not dictators You think? And so that's why the work that we're doing at Colorado Taxpayer is so important. We'd love to have you join us. It's just $25 per year. That's $2.08 a month. And you will receive the email that we send out on Mondays to the legislators and the governor taking positions on bills that are scheduled for hearing. uh this week and we use our our cut pledge which you can see at the website coloradotaxpayer.org as our guiding force on all of that so again we'd love to have you join us and what an amazing group and i've got something i'm going to let you know we're going to hopefully have it rolled out by the weekend and we will be selecting different bills that we will have our cut position on the bill, but there will be a place where you can put in your own commentary if you so desire, and you can basically automatically send that to the bill sponsors, the main bill sponsors, And if you want to add in, your legislator, your representative, or your senator will have the tools there so that you can find their email address. You can stick that in, and all you have to do is hit send. And I think it's a pretty amazing service for a nonprofit organization that is all volunteers, Joe. That's pretty amazing. I think it's going to be awesome. And so Zach is working on that, and I do appreciate that. So let's get into, let's see, our word of the day is... now I had pronounced it, cacophony. And it is C-A-C-O-P-H-O-N-Y. And it could be a harsh or jarring sound, dissonance, or an incongruous or chaotic mixture, a striking combination. I would say the cacophony of what The radical activists left, what we're starting to see regarding them pushing back on the Trump administration and what DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, is finding is remarkable. I saw two different people sent me videos regarding a pastor in Tennessee, a far-left pastor in Tennessee, a black pastor who is calling for violence in our country. And remember, this is the group that has said that it was the MAGA people that were pushing violence. But it's always they're projecting what they're really going to do. And so this is rather remarkable that we're seeing that in our country. And so I would say the cacophony of all of these different voices as they are so worried that they're gravy trained. of graft and fraud and abuse and free money from the taxpayer is just about over. And so just think, if we hadn't had all of this fraud and abuse, that we all would have more money in our pockets. And so I do want to hear what you all have to say about that. The text line is 720-605-0647. Our quote of the day is from Learned Hand. He was born in 1872. He died in 1961. was an american jurist lawyer judicial philosopher he served as a federal judge on the u.s district court for the southern district of new york from 1909 to 1924 and as a federal appellate judge on the u.s court of appeals for the second circuit from 1924 to 1961 and he said this liberty lies in the hearts of men and women when it dies there no constitution no law no court can save it No constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it. I do believe that liberty does lie in the hearts of most Americans, and we are at a time where we are reclaiming it. Our bill of the day, and I am going to continue our Colorado 2024 election project. Thank you to all of you who contributed. We've got our two lawsuits out there, the first with the United Sovereign Americans, which was filed in September, that along with other states, I think it was a total of nine states, the suits were filed that these states are not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress for our elections. And so that is back and forth in the legal wrangling. Then I think it was November 1st, our lawsuit with the Wisconsin Center for Election Justice was filed challenging our voter rolls that the different different voters and their registration that our voter rolls are not clean. And that's going back and forth as well in the legal wrangling. And so we are going to continue on in this fight to reclaim our state and our elections. However, down at the State House, they're continuing to add more and more on regarding elections. And this is Senate Bill 25001. And that is the very first bill that was introduced on the Senate side, which means that is a priority for the radical activist Democrats. And it is being heard in committee this week. The prime sponsors on this are Democrats Senator Julie Gonzalez. Democrat Representative Jennifer Bacon and Democrat Representative Judy Joseph. And it is titled Colorado Voting Rights Act and concerning the administration of elections and in connection therewith, creating the Colorado Voting Rights Act. And it says that the bill creates the Colorado Voting Rights Act and modifies certain election-related statutes in four areas. Election and voting statutes related to Indian tribes, voting-related services for individuals and disabilities, election-related language access, and election-related data collection. The Colorado Union of Taxpayers is recommending a no vote on this. And our reasoning is this. Multiple laws of multiple levels of government already provide more than adequate assurance of equality and ballot access. Adding a requirement for multilingual ballots will open the state up for lawsuits. Why does the state need to have a database on voting? This is for the counties to handle. The bill will cost $3 million and 22 added employees at a time when the state is teetering on the brink of deficit spending. The only thing this bill provides is a launching pad for trial lawyers looking to sue somebody, somewhere, sometime, or anybody, anywhere, anytime. And so that is the bill of the day. Regarding news, I think top headline with all of the work that I do with our veterans, America's Veterans Stories, this first one I thought was pretty important. And that is Fort Bragg. is going to be renamed fort bragg under the o'biden harris administration they renamed it fort liberty and all of this was i think to tear down tear down our heritage apparently fort bragg was named after a civil war i think it was a general but this is uh this is interesting uh and this uh is from fox news Defense Secretary Pete Hegsteth on Monday directed the U.S. Army to change the name of Fort Liberty back to Fort Bragg, but with a twist. Hegsteth signed a memo aboard the U.S. Air Force C-17 before landing in Stuttgart, Germany, ordering the renaming of the North Carolina base to Fort Roland L. Bragg, not the Confederate general that was the previous namesake. That's right, Bragg is back, said Hegsteth after signing the memo. I love the very creative twist that they have done on that. Let's see. I think that is it. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And now that the Super Bowl is over, it is now we're getting into really focusing on hockey, basketball season. Of course, March Madness is right around the corner as well. The place to watch all those games is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And great specials for lunch, Monday through Friday. get together with friends for that and also happy hour and how I got to know them. It's a really important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism. You can find that at my website. It is Tuesday. So we are talking with former state Senator Kevin Lundberg. He is the author of the Lundberg report, which you can find at Kevin Lundberg.com. Kevin, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thank you. It's great being with you. And, uh, I'm looking forward to a lot of discussion on a lot of issues. There's a lot out there.
SPEAKER 03 :
There is a lot out there. What do you think about Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Doge? What has happened over the last... Has it just been three weeks?
SPEAKER 15 :
I'll tell you what. They get things done. And I'm thrilled with what I see coming out. But I also see a rather fascinating... challenge that they're met with. And I think it's going to spin their direction, actually. And that's all of these federal judges who said, no, you can't do this. No, you can't do that. They're trying to put the brakes on what the administration is doing. And there is an appropriate level for the judiciary to step in and balance the power between the executive and Congress. But these federal judges just don't get it. I don't even think they've read the Constitution, because issues at that level are to be dealt with by the Supreme Court, not any of the inferior courts, which is the technical term for all of the other federal court systems. And so I think that's one underlying theme that's out there that I haven't heard a lot of discussion on yet. These judges who think they can dictate to the presidential administration how to conduct their business on a really, you know, almost a day to day decision by decision level are only hurting their own credibility. I think back to what President Andrew Jackson said once when the Supreme Court actually made a ruling. And he said, well, OK, they've made their decision. Now let them enforce it, which was pointing out that they really have no no enforcement except their own credibility, which I believe is a very important component to our balance of power at the federal level. But when judges step out and just, you know, it seems like in wholesale, there's a judge a day that says, no, you can't do this, can't do that. They need to have to understand that they are just hurting themselves by making such judgments. But overall, I'm thrilled with what I'm seeing happening. I think we have to be careful and make sure that everybody stays within their constitutional lanes. But the president is, I believe, making strides of a historical nature. In other words, we'll look back on this years later. and say when Trump stepped in and really started taking charge and rolling back the bad ideas and pushing us forward on a lot of very forward-looking issues, I believe that it'll be seen as a watershed moment for our nation.
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So, Kevin, I really think that we are in the third founding of our country. We're in this huge ideological battle. And interesting, I mentioned it in the first segment, that there is a pastor in Tennessee, a far left radical pastor. that is calling for violence. And I find that rather remarkable when it's been the radical activist left that has continued to accuse the people that love America of violence. And all this projectivism that they have projected on
SPEAKER 15 :
to the mega movement people that love america donald trump saying that they're going to do x when it in essence is what it's what they're going to do and it's somewhat troubling well you know i've noticed it's it's somewhat a bit of a maximum of human nature by my observation that whenever anybody is calling for something or or accusing somebody of of something um you might want to look at who's doing the calling and the accusing because they're showing their hands as to what their intentions are far too often. And I know that's kind of a vague generalization I've made there, but I'd also say this, that politics really follows culture more than culture is driven by politics. And the culture has changed. People have This is why Donald Trump was elected in the first place, is the general population has understood that all of this nonsense that has been thrown at them, and it just seemed to amplify during the Biden administration. I mean, it had been out there for a long time, but, you know, I mean, pick a topic. government growth or, you know, the regulatory environment that's just been overwhelming everybody or the climate change alarmists who seem to have been running everything or in our schools and our sports systems, the transgender idiocy that seemed to capture all of the power structures. Well, that seems to be crumbling because the people have had enough. And I believe that I saw somebody do a comparison to how the Super Bowl, I know we're past that now, but nonetheless, looking back to just the tone in the Super Bowl culturally, and there was a renewed sense of patriotism and a rejection of the, the woke values and i'm not talking about what was necessarily presented by the organizers as much as how the crowd reacted to what you know trump shows up and and it's it's a political rally in a sense for for a short while of course um and and then of course it's a football route which is another story yeah that was unbelievable Right. But unfortunately, Denver, we've been there, done that in the past, too. So you feel their pain, shall we say. Yes. But the tone of the culture has, I believe, turned. You know, you said it's the third founding. I like that concept. I would also present the spiritual aspect of it. because I believe we're seeing a renewed revival in many ways in our culture, and I've been watching that for years, but everything seems to be blossoming in more of a, let's put it this way, a return to common sense, a return to understanding that there are true values out there that our nation was founded on principles of of eternal consequence and um we're seeing um in a a a lot of uh elements within our culture re-embracing those principles and values and um you know i mean i on saturday we had the larimer county gop reorganizational meeting and when I was given an opportunity to speak for a minute or two, I said, I see God's hand working in our nation. And I'm not trying to be a rosy picture on this, because there's a lot of rough water we've got ahead of us. But I really see more hope, optimism, and positive direction than I've seen in my entire adult lifetime.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I know it's going to be chilly tomorrow. However, there's going to be a great event down at the Center for American Values. in Pueblo. The center is located on the Riverwalk and the founders on that are Drew Dix and Brad Padula. Drew is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War but he was also stationed in Greenland and he is going to present on the real Cold War regarding Greenland at the center tomorrow afternoon. Doesn't cost anything but you need to RSVP because they are getting to capacity You can do that. You can get the information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. I'm talking with Kevin Lundberg. He's the author of the Lundberg Report that comes out every Saturday. He's got the good, the bad, and the ugly of what's happening down at the Statehouse and also commentaries on other things that are happening in Colorado. And so, Kevin, let's talk a little bit about the good, the bad, the ugly. What do you see as far as things happening down at the Statehouse this week?
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Well, it's more business as usual as we've seen for the last several years, with a little bit of a modification, I think, but reflecting a little bit on what I'd said earlier on how I believe there is a bit of, there is a sea change in general attitude, but down in the state capital, it seems that they're the last ones to figure it out. A lot of good bills are out there. And I just did a little bit of a quick search on the transgender issue. And Representative Scott Bottoms has a couple of really good bills that one is malpractice insurers, gender affirming care for minors, which simply means if a doctor engages in any of the medical mutilations that unfortunately far too many doctors are conducting on kids, that they ought to be held responsible for it. And the insurance companies shouldn't have to bear that burden and therefore And what this is basically getting around to is if you're a doctor who wants to engage in medicalization of minors for transgender stuff, you might not be able to get any insurance for that. I think it's a great idea. That one is, let's see, House Bill 1068. And then he has another one.
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Well, and I just wanted to comment on that 1068, Kevin. I went down and testified, took one for the team, went down and testified last week on 1068. It did die in committee. And Erin Lee was there, who is your colleague. You and she have worked together to tell her family story regarding their daughter that was targeted in Little Wellington, Colorado. after-school programs. She thought it was Art Club. She and her husband John thought it was Art Club, and it was actually a transgender indoctrination session. And people can get, I think, an overview of what that whole agenda has been by going to the movie that you produced with them, artclubmovie.com, right? Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's called Art Club, but the website is artclubmovie.com, right? And go ahead. Go ahead.
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Well, my comments on that. It was somewhat riveting to see three pediatric doctors, all women, that testified via Zoom that this surgery was evidence-based and everything was OK with that. And first of all, I was thinking, these are people that are treating children. But I thought, OK, if, in fact, As they say, it's evidence-based and there's not really a problem with it. Then what I suggested, instead of having the force of government coming in and saying, insurance companies, you have to cover this action by these doctors. Or the other alternative is they wanted to have taxpayers pay for that malpractice insurance. How about if all of you are so convinced, evidence-based, that everything's fine? come together, you can create your own insurance pool and self-insure. What do you think of that?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think it makes perfect sense and it shows the hypocrisy of their claim that this is a perfectly appropriate medical activity because they can't really face up to the responsibility down the long term. You know, the two things is one, getting the insurance, and number two, a statute of limitations. on how much time an individual has to go back and say, this doctor did me wrong. And those need to be recognized as long-term situations when it comes to taking minors and either just prescribing hormone blockers that just completely mess up their development as children and all the way to actual mutilation through surgeries. If they're going to do this, they need to be held responsible for it. And yeah, you noticed, you noted that the legislature killed it. Why? Well, because they don't get it yet. They just don't get it. And, you know, so he has another bill. Let's see, which one is that?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's the trafficking minors. That's eleven forty five.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. Eleven forty five prohibits transporting minors into the state. for these child mutilation procedures. It recognizes that those people who are trying to make Colorado a destination or who have made Colorado a destination spot for this are really no better than a child trafficker for any other reason.
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Action, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and I think that, again, when they kill these bills, And I'm talking about the majority party down there in the legislature. They show their hands that they are, you know, A, they don't understand where the people are going. Let's take one more issue that isn't on Representative Bottoms.
SPEAKER 03 :
And let me just mention, that's going to be heard today in the Judiciary Committee beginning at 1.30 is when that committee convenes. So if you want to have some testimony, you can do that. Okay, your next one.
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And it's important for people to do that. But the other issue revolving around the same subject is the men and women's sports. And I believe it's important to make some observations there while we're on the subject, which is, of course, the president said, we're ending that. Well, he has only so much constitutional power and authority, and he can control the funding mechanisms to school systems that engage in this practice of allowing men to play in women's sports. But there are a whole lot of other areas that he doesn't have control over, any private sports activity. And you mentioned Erin Lee. She was telling me that when you look at the big picture of youth sports programs, 70% of them are private. And so they're not subject to the control that the president can put on it. But, and here we go back to, I said, politics follows culture. It's not the other way around. I'm told that 80 percent of the population know that it's absurd to allow men to participate in women's sports programs. Understand that and take some action to secure that problem in their state is is just not understanding where the culture is and a little fortification on that. on this whole issue of controlling this transgender ideology in schools and in their state, 26 states have passed some pretty solid laws to counter all this, but not Colorado. No, Colorado continues to rush down the opposite road and try to facilitate more and more transgender ideology in our schools, in our foster care systems, in our libraries. You know, you name it, and this legislature wants to back the very worst ideas in this arena, and yet most states really have figured it out. Now, there are the red states, and guess what? We're not there yet. If there's a silver lining for Colorado, I think it's that the people of Colorado are slowly coming around to figure this out. I mean, you know, we found more Republicans elected to the statehouse this year which is a good step forward at the congressional level. We finally have a balance between the R's and the D's going to Congress in the House. And I'm looking forward to maybe we'll pick up a U.S. Senate seat next go-around, too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and Kevin, I saw this headline. This is from the Daily Wire. This is unbelievable. On this issue, it says the Daughters of the American Revolution National Board of Management on Saturday rejected a proposal from its Texas chapter to keep trans identifying men out of the group. In a letter to the Martha Laird chapter, the DAR National Board of Management said it found a proposed amendment to prohibit all men, including trans-identifying males from the group, not to be suitable for inclusion in the bylaws and not to be in the best interest of society. I've got to think that Dolly Madison is probably turning over in her grave on that one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. Actually, my wife is active with DAR. And I have a feeling that just might affect that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Something might happen at the Lumberg household today, huh?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, well, I know. Anyway, I won't go into that much further. But yeah, again, they don't get it. You know, apparently whoever said in charge of the administration of that organization, which has a fine reputation and is, you know, made up of I don't know how many thousands or tens of thousands of women across the country who are good, solid patriots.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's... Time for new management at the National Board of the Daughters of American Revolution. So we've got a couple of minutes before break. What's the next thing you wanted to hit, Kevin?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, well, the other... While we're talking about legislation, you know, this is a typical year in Colorado politics where THE DEMOCRATS ARE COMING UP WITH ALL SORTS OF GUN CONTROL MEASURES, BUT THEIR BIG ONE, WHICH IS SENATE BILL 3, SEEMS TO BE HAVING SOME TROUBLE NOW. AND I THINK MAYBE THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK AROUND AND DISCOVER THAT THEY'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY. THEY ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF FREEDOM. THEY ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. AND EVEN THOUGH I SEE A REALLY BAD CROP OF BILLS THAT REALLY ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THE WRONG THING TO BE DOING, I DO BELIEVE THAT, AGAIN, IF THERE'S A SILVER LINING TO THIS, IT'S THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE ARE SEEING THE CONTRAST. AND I'M ENCOURAGED THAT, YOU KNOW, At the reorganizational meeting for the Larimer County GOP this past Saturday, we had a huge crowd of people who showed up, one of our biggest meetings of this sort. And that's because the people are rising up and they're realizing, you know, we've got to roll up our sleeves and get down to the basic issues of politics if we're going to change these laws that have been going the wrong direction here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and it is exciting what is happening on the national level, but I am convinced that we have to step forward at the municipal, the county, the state level here in Colorado to reclaim this state. So that's great news that you had such a great turnout on that. I think that's happening across the state, and it's important that we have these discussions. If you've been injured, you need to take immediate action, and one of the things you need to do is, is reach out to John Bosen with Bosen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Our America's Veterans Stories show that broadcast this last Sunday afternoon. We'll rebroadcast this Sunday 10 to 11 at night. And we interviewed Bob Chica, who was a crew member on the USS Pueblo that was taken captive during the Vietnam War by the North Koreans. The crew was held for 11 months. And so we did the interview with Bob and Joe and I looked at each other and we said, oh, my gosh, there's two. interviews in this and so we will be recording the second part tomorrow and that will broadcast this part two this Sunday on America's Veterans Stories 3 to 4 p.m. but I make this point because Bob will be out here in May for the Memorial Day event out at the USMC Memorial Foundation so just wanted to give you a teaser on that because they're doing such great work and at the Memorial Foundation. And be sure and check out that website, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And make sure that you add the memorial into your giving this year, because making that remodel a reality is so important. And you can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Talking with Kevin Lundberg, he is the author of the Lundberg Report, which he publishes every Saturday with a lot of great information. He talks about legislation. And there's a lot of bills out there, Kevin Lundberg, in this last segment. What more should people know?
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Well, here's... If you go to my website and you see the bad bill list I have, I try to identify the worst of the worst, if you will. And, man, that list is growing so fast. Here's one that is a little bit of a sleeper, but it kind of goes back to some of the things we were talking about, and that's Senate Bill 63, which is a bill that – pretty much eliminates the possibility of removing any books from public schools because they're inappropriate. It sets up this whole complicated system that makes it too difficult to actually challenge bad books. And it went through a committee yesterday and passed and is on its way to the Senate floor, I believe is the next step for that bill. That's Senate Bill 63. There are, as I said before, several bills that deal with the gun issue. And then another important issue that I know that you really doubled down on and very appropriately is this whole climate change alarmism that the legislature just seems to be, you know, following in lockstep on any idea where they can supposedly eliminate carbon dioxide from the atmosphere or minimize it, if you will. And they continue to rush down that road. Senate Bill 137, greenhouse gas credits for water quality projects. This is buying into the argument that somehow we need to have greenhouse gas credits. This is a backdoor way of PUTTING THAT IN AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE THAT I THINK I DON'T KNOW BETTER DOWN THERE ARE ACTUALLY BEHIND SOME OF THIS ONE BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH ENABLING WATER PROJECTS TO GO FORWARD. BUT IT'S DOING IT BY TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BEND TO THE KNEE OF GLOBAL WARMING ALARMISM. that I want people to keep their eye on because I think it's one of the most dangerous ones out there this year, and that's the health care payment system analysis. Senate Bill 45. It's a bill that just sets up a study, if you will, but it's a study to lay out to the legislature on this is how we can make the state the complete authority payer of all medical systems in colorado which is socialized medicine by another brand i mean you know they say no our hospitals are doctors they'll still operate privately but if the only entity paying the bills is the state they will dictate oh and speaking of that there is a brand new bill that i saw that was introduced yesterday i believe Let's see if I can find this, because it's kind of in the middle of my queue on how I keep track of these things. And it's called Reimbursement Requirements for Health Insurers, House Bill 1174. I'm still in the midst of studying this one, but it looks like it's a cost-fixing system for... FORCE SOME MEDICAL INSURANCE POLICIES. SO THE STATE WILL DICTATE WHAT THE PAYMENTS WILL BE FOR VARIOUS MEDICAL PROCEDURES AND WILL NOT ALLOW ANY VARIANCE FROM THAT IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, I THINK IT'S THE SMALL GROUP INSURANCE PROGRAMS. THAT'S BAD NEWS. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THE GOVERNMENT STEPS IN AND SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO PRICE FIXING, I REMEMBER Richard Nixon did that to gas way back in the 70s. And yeah, they held the price back for a few months. And then when they let go of it, it just exploded. And when you control prices, what you do is you frustrate the free market system. And if you continue to control those prices, it's like rent control. What happens? Well, the supply goes away because nobody is willing to do business under those circumstances.
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Well, and producer Joe, young 26-year-old producer Joe, had figured it out when we were talking about this. He said, okay, so let's say the price of bread is fixed at this particular price, which you're seeing also there's that price gouging bill that they have regarding grocery stores. And I just want to say, the biggest price gouger out there is government, because look how much they take out of your paycheck. You talk about gouging, that's gouging. But what happens is, so what if the price of bread is X? If you go to the store and there's no bread, it doesn't matter. And when government gets involved, the quality goes down, the supply becomes limited, and gosh, I can't remember the other thing, but those are two of the main things that happen.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, again, you're trying to manipulate a market that really works best on its own. And I think you're talking about House Bill 1010, prohibiting price gouging and sales of necessities. At least that's the bill that's on the table now. And it passed committee, you know, because the majority party just doesn't quite get it. And unfortunately, we see so much. Here's another bill, 1109, Gender Identity Certificate of Death. This would make some death certificates as far removed from reality as some Colorado birth certificates are already. You know, in Colorado, if you change, supposedly change your gender, you can go back and have your birth certificate changed and It is to look like that was the original birth certificate. There should be no hint that this was modified. And they want to change that to death certificates as well. Why is that a big deal? Because those are some of the appropriate statistics that are maintained by the Colorado Department of Health for birth certificates. validating medical research on, you know, what did people die of? Who were they? Now we're, you know, we're wanting to put in nonsense rather than common sense, false facts rather than real facts in statistical data. You know, and what happens? Well, I suspect this one's going to move through like the rest.
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Kevin, to your point, though, 80% of Americans are saying this is crazy. And so we – Colorado's at the tip of the spear on crazyville, though. We've got about 30 seconds left. It's always so interesting. How would you like to wrap this up, Kevin Lundberg?
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Well, I'd just say stay tuned. There are so many things. And a point of clarity here, 80% is for the men and women's sports. It degrades a little bit on some of the others, but you're right. The average citizen is starting to get it and to understand. And I'm. hopeful and upbeat. But, you know, let's come back next week and check notes again, because I'm sure there will be a lot more to talk about.
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It'll be four weeks with the Trump administration. Who knows what's going to happen over the next week? Kevin Lundberg, thank you so much. Be sure and check out the Lundberg report. You can find that at Kevin Lundberg. That's L-U-N-D-B-E-R-G dot com. Kevin, we'll talk next week.
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Thanks, Kim. As always, great time.
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And now, the Lens of Liberty. Here's Helen Creeble.
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Ancient wisdom teaches that if you want less of anything, you tax it. If you want more, you subsidize it. Have we forgotten that simple principle? If we look through the lens of liberty, we see a government that rewards unemployment and business failure with welfare, and taxes productivity, profit, growth, job creation, and wealth. We pay taxes on our wages, our homes, and our cars. We are taxed on clothes, food, drinks, and gas, and on everything we leave behind after death. We complain of high taxes, but maybe we ought to look more closely at what we tax and what we subsidize. Maybe we should stop subsidizing things that fail, and start rewarning things that succeed. Then maybe we would get less failure and more success.
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That's on all KLZ platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. our word of the day is cacophony spell c-a-c-o-p-h-o-n-y it's a noun be a harsh or jarring sound dissonance or number two an incongruous or chaotic mixture a striking combination and i would say the cacophony of all of these judges that are trying to stop the agenda of donald trump And Doge, trying to get this government back in the proper role that it's supposed to be in, has been rather interesting to watch and to listen to. Our quote of the day, I went to Judge Learned Hand, born in 1872. He died in 1961. He was an American jurist, lawyer, and judicial philosopher. He served as a federal trial judge on the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York from 1909 to 1924. As an appellate, a federal appellate judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, 1924 to 1961, he said this, liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it. No constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it. And I really think the radical activists left, really Marxist communists, have tried to squelch that fire of liberty in our hearts, but we are seeing that Americans, it is in our DNA, and I do believe that we are in our third founding of our country. But elections are super important, and Colorado's elections have a number of vulnerabilities, and we continue to see more and more stuff piled on that. Our bill of the day is Senate Bill 25001, That was the very first bill that they introduced. That means that this is a priority of theirs. And again, this is the radical activists. This is a priority. Elections matter. The work that we did with our Colorado 2024 election project, getting those two lawsuits filed that are now back in the back and forth legal wrangling. um is so important and we're going to be doing some new things here in 2025. i hear my ear to the ground says that the trump administration will be doing some things regarding elections but my friends we have got to take the mantle here in our own state in our own communities and so stay tuned On that, but that is Colorado Voting Rights Act. The sponsors on that are all Democrats, Senator Julie Gonzalez, Representative Jennifer Bacon, Representative Junie Joseph. And again, this elections are so important and this seems to be a priority. On the line with me is John Boson with Boson Law and If you've been injured, reach out to them. John Boson, before we get into it, one of the things, I've never done much in the legal realm, and we raised the money for these two elections for our Colorado 2024 election project. We had hoped that one of them would get to the Supreme Court before the elections. What I'm learning is in the legal world, there's a lot of back and forth and kind of ping pong ball back and forth, and So it all takes a lot longer than I anticipated, John Boson.
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Yes, it does. It's one of the things that when I meet with a prospective new client, I kind of give them a little bit of an education in terms of how long getting a claim may take to get resolved. And I always see the eyes kind of go wide open. Yeah, there's lots of... ways and tools that I deal primarily with insurance carriers and big corporations and they have lots of tricks up their sleeve to kind of slow things down delay things because by doing so a lot of people just want to just be done with it and so I have to coach and mentor and guide my clients not to fall into that trap to hang tough and it's tough to do that sometimes because Accidents can be financially devastating, especially if they keep somebody from working. And so that kind of delay tactic is unfortunately sometimes successful on folks. And I understand it. You know, got to put food on the table.
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Well, and yes, that legal wrangling back and forth is super interesting. You at Boston Law, first of all, you are willing to go to trial if need be, which I think is important that people understand that.
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Absolutely.
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What kind of cases do you work in? I know Social Security disability and accidents. So what is the realm of what you guys cover?
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You know, I tell folks, Kim, anything that harms a person or a loved one. And the gamut runs from motor vehicle collisions, which is kind of, you know, the wheelhouse, to slip and falls on ice that should have been removed or some other material or something on the ground that a business allowed to have there. It could be grease on the floor of the dining room table outside the kitchen. Trip and falls, that can be anything. We've had a slew of dog bite and dog attack cases recently. rafting accident, zip lining accident, anything that hurts someone, bad pharmaceutical drugs. We've talked about Ozempic, Wegovia, Montero. We've got bad products cases, the talcum powder in products. Anything, Kim, that can hurt someone. In addition to those things, then workers' compensation claims. If someone's injured in an accident on the job, it doesn't matter how it happened, just that it happened. That person has the right to seek benefits under the Workers' Compensation Act. And then Social Security disability. If someone is unable to work for any reason, sickness, injuries, if they can't work and they've paid into the system, They qualify to seek Social Security disability benefits. So wide range of claims. And I've got attorneys that focus on particular types of claims. So for example, if it's a trip or slip and fall, I've got one of the best attorneys in the state for that type of case. And others that handle specific, more specific types of personal injury cases. So we do a lot under that personal injury umbrella.
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So, John Boson, how much does it cost to have an initial consultation with one of your experts?
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It costs nothing to meet with me or any of our senior lawyers, and typically it's an hour and a half. Sometimes it can go longer. But, again, we'll just go through and talk about the claim, get all the information, talk about – what needs to happen, when it needs to happen, and guide the individual or the family on how things go, the process, the procedure.
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So that is complimentary for that first appointment?
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There's no charge for that.
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Okay. How can people reach you?
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It's that oh-so-easy-to-remember number, 303-999-9999. Call and talk to someone and Sometimes it's over the phone, but often it's getting folks into the office for an in-depth consultation.
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So one other question. Do you only practice here in Colorado, or are there other states?
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We're helping folks in the surrounding states. It can be anywhere in the United States because I have a large network of attorneys that I've worked with, I continue to work with out of state. So if we have a Colorado family, go to florida there's a problem down there i can co-counsel with a florida attorney or i can refer them outright to a florida attorney to help them with their situation john boson i really appreciate you and boson law for caring for people not only in colorado but throughout the country and so thank you for the update and we'll talk next week thank you kim keep fighting will do
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and welcome back to the kim munson show be sure and check out our website that is kim munson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmunson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it i did want to just comment this came in from one of our listeners Kevin Lumberg and I talked a little bit about this in the first hour, and that is the Daughters of the American Revolution on Saturday rejected a proposal from its Texas chapter to keep trans-identifying men out of the group. In a letter to the Martha Laird chapter, the DAR National Board of Management said it found the proposed amendment to prohibit all men, including trans-identifying males, from the group not to be suitable for inclusion in the bylaws and not to be in the best interest of the society. Hmm. I wonder what all of our founding fathers and mothers would think about that. But this is from one of our listeners. She said, Our state regent is the only person to speak publicly and maybe only our president general at DAR headquarters. The president general is Pamela Edwards Rouse Wright. And that is a very important issue. And that's what we have seen is that we've seen the management of nonprofits and media academia, our churches. We've seen many times that's been hijacked by radical activists that have gone on up and volunteered and gotten to the top levels of these organizations. And we want to keep men out of girl sports. How about we keep men out of the Daughters of the American Revolution? What do you think about that, Producer Joe?
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I totally agree. I mean, just because they say one thing doesn't mean it's deemed that way, and the rules kind of make sense.
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Right. We don't all have to then, if they want to kid themselves, that's one thing. If they want us all to be part of that, that's quite another thing. But gentlemen, I've got Producer Luke is on the line. Producer Luke, you said that the family has got this crud that's going around, right? So you're not in studio, you're calling in.
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Yeah, yeah, so sorry if I sound a little out of sorts. We're all running pretty high fevers, suffering a bit right now, but getting through it.
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Well, thank you for making this happen. And there is something really tough that's going around. Teresa on our team, she was knocked out for a couple of weeks on this. I know that Trent Luce said he'd gotten the dimmer crud when he'd been at the National Western. So take care of yourself and get through it. But thanks for rallying for our final. Producer Luke, Producer Joe, we have done it. Economics in one lesson. We are finishing it up. and this is the book by henry haslett it says the shortest and surest way to understand basic economics and basically we're going to talk about saving and then just a wrap up on this so luke let's go to you first producer luke regarding chapter 24 the assault on saving yeah i uh i don't think there's a whole lot of discourse to be had on this chapter um famously my
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my position with Hazlitt has been pretty back and forth, and this is one of the chapters I find myself primarily agreeing with him on the chapter itself, sort of in short terms being, savings are good. Yeah, yes, I agree. Savings are good. I think sort of near the tail end of this chapter and sort of leading into the next one, it gets into some more positions that I don't necessarily agree with. So maybe once we jump into those chapters, I'll have a bit more to say on the issue. I know he also mentions in this chapter, he goes on to say something to the effect that low interest rates predominantly seem beneficial, but on the whole sort of lead to misallocation of resources and economic imbalances. I'm not an economist, so I don't know if I can speak too hard to that other than I know high interest rates suck, and I don't like them very much. I would prefer low interest rates, but again, I'm sure if I was a bit more studied on the subject, I'd have a more informed opinion on that specific matter.
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Well, and Luke, we had seen that interest rates have been held artificially low for a number of years. And whenever you have artificial intrusions into the market, it does skew the market a bit. And I think we talk on somewhat a regular basis with you and Joe regarding home ownership. And you guys are both 26 years old and I think would love to own your own home. But those low interest rates, I think were a contributing factor to the increase in value of homes which makes it less affordable for you guys to get homes. People that have homes love to see that increased value on their balance sheets. They don't like the fact that property taxes have been attached to That increase in value, and they're paying more in property taxes, which I think then does undercut their property rights because they're paying basically taxes on unrealized gains. And I think a lot of that could go back to artificial interest rates. Producer Joe, you want to weigh in on this?
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Well, I was just thinking about both sides because, you know, interest rates can be good as well. Like high interest rates can be good as well. Like in the case of having a savings account with a high interest rate, you're going to accrue more money over time. But with that being said, Henry Hazlitt did make a comparison between or not a comparison, tried to defer the two between an investment and a savings account. with the savings, if you have a high interest rate, you're going to accrue more money. But if you still have a high interest rate towards your investment, now you're looking to be a little sad, kind of like you were saying about the housing market. And so keeping the artificial low rates, I think it's kind of like price setting, kind of like what they're talking about in the grocery stores. It just kind of turns it around.
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yeah and so yeah whenever government comes in to fix a price whether or not it's interest rates or we were talking about this bill down at the state house regarding price gouging at the grocery store or health care there's this analysis bill down at the state house which would move us to government run health care whenever government gets involved The supply becomes limited, the price goes up, and the quality goes down. And Joe, you'd made an excellent point regarding price fixing or price, this price gouging bill that is down at the state house. And I always want to make the point, who's the biggest price gouger in your paycheck?
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The federal government every time.
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The government or the state government also with this other thing. So that's where we really need to address this price gouging is with government. But you'd made this point and this was a real aha is you could have government say the price of bread is X. But if you go to the store and there's no bread, it doesn't matter, does it?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, it doesn't. And it also reduces the ability for small businesses to be able to supply it as well. It just takes away kind of all of asset.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point, because you might have some new innovative products that might be coming in that might be at a higher price point. If you've got price fixing, then good point. That would eliminate that new creative small business. What do you think about that, Luke?
SPEAKER 20 :
I think it's a good point. I think it's a good point.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. What did you guys think about the example of the two brothers, Alvin and Ben, who they both had been left some money, and they both had, it says here... Let's see. Gosh, there's quite a bit in there. But they both have received a $50,000 income a year. But Alvin, the first brother, is a lavish spender. He spends not only by temperament, but on principle. He's a disciple, to go no further back, of Rodbertus, who declared in the middle of the 19th century that capitalists must expend their income to the last penny in comforts and luxuries, for if they determine to save, goods accumulate, and part of the workmen will have no work to do. So Alvin is a lavish spender. He goes out. He lives high on the hog, you will. But he spends more than he takes in. And so everybody liked him while he was tipping and out there, but he then, five years later, doesn't have... And people look at him as a fool. However, his brother had been investing, had been living on $25,000 a year, investing the other $25,000. And that $25,000 invested was going out to help create new businesses, create wealth for himself. And at the end of five years, he not only had his income, but he also had his investments, which were helping to grow the economy. So what do you think about that, Joe?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I was just thinking, well, you can live the lavish life and spend some of the money, but at the end of the day, you kind of have to live like both the brothers where you can have some fun and enjoy your life, but also invest in your future and plan for, hey, this money is not going to be around forever. The value is not going to be around forever. So how do I battle that? And that's what savings and a lot of people do recommend like saving cash instead or not cash like gold or jewels, stuff that retains the value over time. Your home is a big one as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
And in tough times, you do want to have things that you could barter back and forth as well. So Luke, let's have your thought on this. We're going to go to break. We'll continue the discussion with you guys regarding economics in one lesson. But what's your thoughts about the brothers?
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, not to turn too far away from economics and jump into philosophy, but I think there's something to be said about the love of money, right? Money isn't the root of all evil. The love of money is the root of all evil. So I think there's a balance. I think if your entire existence is in the pursuit of wealth for the sake of wealth, then that's a pretty shallow existence. I think, I mean, making money isn't a bad thing, right? Doing good work and working hard is something that should be valued. I think that's very good. But I also think, I don't know, you shouldn't give either of the brothers in the example too hard of a time, right? Depending on circumstance, depending on what they want to do, to each their own, I'd say.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think to your point, there can be a blend between the two, between going out and doing something special every once in a while, but not on this regular basis that Brother Alvin was doing, but yet not—and they use the word hoarding as well— you know, making sure that you are able to enjoy some of the fruits of your labor as well. I think that there is a good blend to that, gentlemen. So we're going to continue the discussion. I'm talking with producer Joe, producer Luke, regarding economics in one lesson. And these are important discussions. They come to you because of our sponsors. And Lavaca Meat Company is truly a premium product. It is a great protein source in your diet. And the And Jim May Cattleman says that the only preservative is the freezer. I love that. So Lavaca Meat Company is located on the corner of Maine and Nevada in Old Littleton.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And buy a brick that will be on one of their pathways of service to honor your military service or your loved one's military service. And you'll receive a beautiful certificate, which you can put on the wall. It's a beautiful gift as well. And more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Talking with our young producers. And that is producer Joe, producer Luke. We have finished up the book, Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Before we move away from savings and just have an overview of what you guys think about the book, Susan texted this. Keeping interest rates artificially low actually winds up hurting most regular folks. In the past, a savings account or having a certificate of deposit was a way for people to make money on their money when the interest rates are held artificially low. Ordinary people can't make any money on their savings through the safety of a bank. Excellent point, I think, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 05 :
I definitely agree. And it just kind of leads right back to that price fixing thing. Once it sets it in motion, you eventually do not have the supply capable to maintain it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. And so free markets, although I say free markets, I know that there's a lot of tariff conversation out there. And free, fair, honest, and transparent markets are really important. In fact, we're going to talk with Brian Dimitrovic, economic historian on Friday about the Trump tariff. So stay tuned on that. Luke, this whole discussion on economics in one lesson, and you have been such a sport on this, Producer Luke, and we've added Producer Joanne on this as well. I love getting your perspectives as young individuals in America. And we finished the book. And so you are suggesting our next book will be The Prince by, who is it by?
SPEAKER 20 :
By Machiavelli.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so I will get that book for the three of us and we'll start that next month. But what's your overall takeaway regarding economics in one lesson?
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, Mr. Haslett, where to begin? Like I said, sort of at the beginning, famously me and Haslett don't always agree, which I think is a good thing, right? I think it's important to have discourse and differing opinions. not to get too verbose, mostly on account of I don't want to take up too much time and also it hurts to talk. I think Hazlitt's sort of economic ideas function well in a vacuum of raw numbers, but I don't think a lot of his ideas hold up well under scrutiny, especially when you implement the human element. I think, again, if you threw out all of his policies and theories and ideas onto an Excel sheet, it would add up very nicely. But human beings aren't Excel sheets. We're not numbers on a page. So I think a lot of it starts to fall apart. Not to get too anecdotal, but he mentioned sort of in his wrap-up that a lot of people try and pursue – government interventionist policies into a market, and he mentions that on the whole that's not necessarily a good thing. Hazlitt is a free market capitalist, so obviously he takes a very laissez-faire approach of keeping government hands out of the market. But I'd like to bring up a small sort of anecdotal piece of evidence that kind of goes against that idea. And this is something I wasn't aware of up until recently on a different show. Sort of let me down a rabbit hole doing a whole bunch of research. And you get into a situation where the 3M company, they're a manufacturer of PFAS, 3M Corporation. They're a chemical company, primarily responsible for Teflon and Scotchgard and stuff like that. And The 3M company is responsible for poisoning the water supply of a town, significantly so. You know, cancers and diseases and some really, really nasty stuff. And the 3M Corporation knew that they were poisoning the water for some years, a number of years, not an insignificant amount of time. And they came to the conclusion that covering it up was less expensive than paying out the lawsuit for damages once they were eventually discovered. This is an example of a corporation acting without the best interest of the people. They are doing something actively malicious. And it took the government coming in and saying, no, no, you're not allowed to poison people. And only then did they make an effort to stop And I think that's important to look at. Not all these corporations are going to operate within the realm of free market capital. Oh, if something's bad, we'll fix it because no one wants to compete or whatever. So I think that's, again, and it's global, mind you, but important to look at.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I'm not totally familiar with that, Luke. So ideally, the judicial system should come in and that's where that that should be decided is within the courts. Yes. Is that what happened or was it the EPA that came in? I'm not totally familiar with the case.
SPEAKER 20 :
It was the EPA that came in only after a number of employees blew the whistle. But I think the point is, in this instance, the only reason the 3M Corporation stopped poisoning the water is because the government became involved and put in regulations. They would have continued because they showed no signs of stopping if they were never regulated.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I would think, though, there should have been a class action suit, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
There was, but again, the 3M Corporation said that it was cheaper to deal with a lawsuit than it would be to fix their own product and stop doing this. They found it more beneficial to continue making money while poisoning people because dealing with class action lawsuits is cheaper afterwards. And again, I think to sort of tie it back to Hazlitt, Hazlitt said that people jump to government intervention more. Well, I think when it comes to corporations actively being malicious, then yes, the government should definitely intervene. And that's where I think me and Hazlitt differ probably the most, among some other places. But that's just a little piece I wanted to get out there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Joe, any thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I kind of agree with Luke on this one. It kind of made me think about Google and the censorship that was going on on YouTube and other places like that where they would actively take down things and censor people's words, and that didn't end up changing until Trump put in an executive order for it to stop. And so there had to be some intervention because we can't bank on... values anymore. There's been a degradation of values for a while now that we can't bank on it. And so yeah, we need a little bit of government help. But that's also brings up the biggest question. How much help are you willing to give and give up some of your freedoms in the process?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that is really the question. So but for example, this censorship that we saw under the Biden-Harris administration, the veil is coming off that it actually was government that was trying to influence these corporations in doing so. So as I always mentioned, big government and big business like each other. And so the fact that Trump is coming in and they're rolling that back is we need to get back to free markets and and Luke to your point the EPA I agree and has had some And some of the things that they were initially tasked to do made sense. We needed to clean up our rivers. We needed to clean up our air. But now what we have seen is that the EPA has become an out-of-control federal agency, unaccountable to people. to really congress in many ways and that they have wielded their power to prevent people from maybe even putting a pond on their own property and so something that did have a good idea if it's can get out of control and that is what has happened with the epa is they've gotten way out of their wheelhouse and we need to get that put back into the proper role of government luke
SPEAKER 20 :
yeah i agree i agree there's definitely a lot to be said about uh people in power getting out of control with said power you see it in a lot of different fields just about anywhere you look right if someone has power for long enough eventually it corrupts what's the saying absolute power free ups absolutely yes and i think that you can see that on the you know highest levels and you can see it at the lowest levels just look at any hoa
SPEAKER 03 :
Sometimes I think that the HOA can be the most onerous sometimes with people getting a little bit of power. It's rather remarkable. I also saw that when I was on city council. Gentlemen, we're going to continue the discussion to finish up this book. And again, you both have been just great sports on this, and I really do appreciate that. We have all these discussions because of great sponsors. And for anything mortgages, reach out to Loren Levy. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. I've got a previous engagement, so I'm not going to be able to make it. But I'd love to be down in Pueblo tomorrow night at the Center for American Values. which is located on the Riverwalk there, for the presentation by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient and co-founder of the center, regarding the real Cold War, about his time when he was stationed in Greenland. It's going to be super interesting. If you want to attend, you can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. Let them know that you're planning on attending. They need to have a head count. They're getting close to capacity on this. But again, more information at AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And this is in from Susan regarding, we were talking about Google, and she said the government was ordering Facebook and other giant social media companies to censor the people. And of course, they should have said no, but they didn't. So we've got Gammy on the line. And Gammy, do you want to weigh in on our young guys and economics in one lesson?
SPEAKER 08 :
Actually, I just want to say we got to do more outreach to young people. I want to steal the time for Scott Bottoms. HB 1145, Trafficking Minors for Abortion or Transgender Surgeries Care, etc. This is a bill that will be read today in the Judiciary House Committee. at 1.30 and I wrote three pages to the whole assembly and I want to read you just a snippet because this is devastating concerning prohibiting the human trafficking of an out of state minor into Colorado for the purpose of assisting in certain reproductive health care services and it obviously is devastating here's what it says This is me reading my own stuff. No child can give informed consent. Many crucial changes have occurred regarding current protocols, which will begin to reshape the policy and cultural landscape surrounding transgender ideology in the coming years. On January 28th, President Trump signed two significant executive orders declaring his intent to return our country to true and ethical standards regarding sex. Under the first order, defending women from gender ideology extremism and restoring biological truth to the federal government, he affirms two and only two distinct biological sexes, male and female. Under the second order, that will protect children with gender dysphoria while protecting children from chemical and surgical mutilations. Hospitals across the country will be required to suspend any gender interventions on individuals under the age of 19. This order states that it will neither fund, sponsor, promote, assist, support in any way all of the blockers and surgeries for so-called children. transition, and it's also supported by the Doctors Protecting Children Coalition and the American College of Pediatricians, which came out and said, this is horrible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you, Gammy. And to your point, you are fearless in watching what's happening down at the Statehouse. Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you for shedding light on this. And Scott Bottoms is trying to prevent Colorado from becoming a destination place for for people and I find it so interesting when they say reproductive health when they're talking about abortion because in that there is no reproducing with abortion. But they have such a play on words and gender affirming care is actually gender mutilation and so it's important. Cami, I thank you for the great work that you are doing and shedding light on all this. You are so informed and you are fearless and that is what we need. Luke and Joe, Luke, have you thought about any of these issues that GAMI has brought up? Because I think it really is affecting our young people. What's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 20 :
Boy, that's a hot one, a hot topic. My opinion on it is going to be a bit controversial. I think, you know, you're a legal adult, 18 years old. You do whatever you want to do. It's none of my business.
SPEAKER 03 :
But what about children? What do you think about children?
SPEAKER 20 :
I think, you know, children are children. Like I said, 18 years old, you do what you want to do. Anything before that, that's not kosher in my book. Though I also think this... uh this incredible focus on not to say that it's not important but i think uh it gets to a certain point where it gets to be too much for example i'll say this right i don't care what a person does with their body when i can't afford groceries uh there are more important more relevant issues for me as an individual uh to deal with and i think a hyper fixation a hyper fixation on what adults do is sort of not conducive of a conversation. Again, you want to talk about children, that's a different topic.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I do think, Luke, I think that really is the issue that we're talking about here is children. And to your point, people that are 18 or older, yeah, that's their business. But children, that's another thing. We've got just a few minutes. Joe, do you want to weigh in on this?
SPEAKER 05 :
So my opinion is kind of in between both y'alls. I think that when it is children, it is up to a conversation between the child and the parent. So if the parent believes in that and that's what it does, that is the parent's choice to mutilate the child. It is not our spot to tell them whether they can or cannot do that. but it has to be with conversation with the parent where the parent is over 18. if the child is younger than 18 the parent has to say yeah okay we'll do this and that's kind of the uh thing that sticks out to me is when you're 18 you are legally able to sign your own documents you're legally able to sign up to fight a war so if you want to make that decision by all means you have the right to do so and the freedom to do so but When you're a child who does not fully understand the repercussions of the decisions early on and into the future, I think it has to have a conversation with the parents.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I love the fact that you're standing for parental rights on that, Joe. My concern is, though, that to mutilate a child, because sometimes there are parents with particular agendas. And I think we do need to protect children across the board from child mutilation. I just think that we really do. Anyway, great discussion. Go ahead, Joe.
SPEAKER 05 :
But those parents have the freedom to make that decision. That is the key thing. It's freedom on all sides, but we don't get to restrict rights.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, parental rights. I like that. I'm going to have to think about that, Joe. I'm going to ruminate on that for the rest of the day. So let's wrap this up, and I do thank Gammy for shedding light on this. Joe, I'm going to go to you first. We've got a minute. This has been fun, the economics in one lesson. You've been a real sport. Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's my pleasure. It was so much fun and I learned so much. It kind of even helped me with my own financial stresses.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's good. And one of the things on you young people, all of us, is I want to get less government intervention into your paychecks. How's that?
SPEAKER 20 :
I love that. Lovely.
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you think, Luke? What's your final thoughts on all this?
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you so much for having me on, Kim. I really appreciate it. I think discourse in all of its forms is very healthy to the greater conversation. You know, even if the things I say aren't always, you know, very party-like, I think it's important to have these discussions.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think that it is, too. And so I'm excited about we're going to start a new book, The Prince by Machiavelli. And that is we'll do that next month. And again, gentlemen, you've been real sports on this. I appreciate you putting on your thinking caps and engaging and not being afraid to share your thought processes with us. And it's really important. So, again, Joe, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 05 :
My pleasure, Kim.
SPEAKER 03 :
And, Luke, you've been a real sport. I hope that the whole family get that chicken soup, and I hope that you all get to feeling better.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, I hope that I get to feeling better, too. I am in incredible pain.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm sorry. I know that this thing that's going around is just pretty tough. And so, again, get to feeling better. But thanks for being a sport and making this happen, Producer Luke, as well.
SPEAKER 20 :
I had to be here for the finale.
SPEAKER 03 :
You did have to be here for the finale, that's for sure. So thank you. Of course. Thank you. Okay. And, again, these are such important discussions, and we'll continue to have them. So we've got a big week planned for you. Tomorrow we're actually going to be talking with – let's see, what does it look like tomorrow? Oh, my fellow CUT board members and then Susan Kochevar, entrepreneur and owner of 88 Drive-In Theater, will be weighing in. And then Trent Luce, I want to talk with him about the CO2 pipelines as well. And it is so important to be kicking the tires on these ideas. And Colorado is at the tip of the spear. And thank you to all of you who support us because it is so important that we do this right here in Colorado. We've got to reclaim this beautiful state that was built on the rugged individualistic spirit of the West. And our quote for the end of the show. is from Learned Hand. He's a jurist. He said, in the end, it is worse to suppress dissent than to run the risk of heresy. So again, we must engage in these conversations, kick the tires on these ideas. And in doing so, I think that we really are going to reclaim our state. We are at the tip of the spear here in Colorado for all the the wacko stuff that's going on and god has put us here for this particular point in time so today be grateful read great books think good thoughts listen to beautiful music communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like superman stand for truth justice and the american way my friends you are not alone god bless you and god bless america
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members of Congress.
SPEAKER 13 :
Do they know that we're here? Max, ask the question again. That's important.
SPEAKER 03 :
Were you told, are you making this decision to stand in front of this door on your own behalf, on behalf of the Department of Education, or were you told to come out here and block members of Congress and wipe the dust? I'm doing my job.
SPEAKER 08 :
So everybody's split in. What is that?
SPEAKER 02 :
We're doing our jobs.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're trying to save your jobs. Show them your ID. Show them your ID. Were you told to stand here, or did you decide to stand here and block members of Congress from entering the Department of Education?
SPEAKER 08 :
This allows us access to federal buildings.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're allowed in there.
SPEAKER 08 :
So a private security contractor is blocking members of Congress. A private security contractor is making the decision to block members of Congress from a public access entrance.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't think he knows.
SPEAKER 08 :
You have the authority as a private security contractor to block members of Congress. That has been knighted and granted to you. You have to at least let us go to the desk. About all the haters, all of the critics, the...
SPEAKER 14 :
Video, what Juan is showing you, what you're hearing on the radio program is this, let me describe it for you in case, you know, because we've got a lot of people who drive. The guy is, he's a private, I don't know who the guy is, he's a private security person, right? And he is outside the Department of Education. And he's just like, you know, doesn't really care. He's just doing his job. In fact, that's what he kept saying is that I'm just doing my job or I'm doing a job is what he said. I'm doing a job. And he just, you know, didn't care. By the way, he's the type of exact person you never want to make mad. So he's there. And all of the weeping and gnashing of the teeth that you hear is from members of Congress. People like Maxine Waters. I was trying to think of some of the other ones that I recognize there. I mean, there's just a lot of them. And they're all there in front of him. And they're mad because... he's not allowing them entrance to that building, right? He's not allowing them to go in there. I guess the doors are locked. I don't know. By order of, it's POTUS. I mean, POTUS is the one that's ultimately deciding all of this stuff. And so he's standing out there. They're pushed up against him. And he's not letting anybody in. Now, what gets me about this, I cannot tell you how many times I've watched this video. It is, you know, I always joke, I'm like, oh, this is like a renaissance painting. This is like a renaissance video. You had Ilhan Omar, Maxine Waters, the chick from Texas. All of the loudmouths were there. And they were all livid because this guy, they couldn't get past this guy to get inside. This video is the video that captures... Everything, the zeitgeist of the times, politically speaking anyway, right? Democrats are demanding entry into a complete... I mean, it's just like they're demanding access to something that isn't theirs. That's ultimately how you look at this. They're demanding access and entry into something that isn't theirs. And... The guy's expression, you know, they're mad. They're like, can you believe this? Here's our ID. Like, he gives a rat's backside about the ID, right? Here's the ID. Here's our ID. How dare you? And the woman keeps asking him questions over and over again. Like, well, did you know that we're elected members of Congress? He knows he does not care. He just literally doesn't care. He didn't care. And you know what? I think we're all done caring about their excuses. These people who have zero accountability. So they're trying to get in here. I love it. We didn't see when we elected people like this to go to Congress, we elected them to enforce and implement the policies that that and the ideals that we have. wanted to, whether it's economic policy, whether it has to deal with international relations, the border, domestic security, anything in the interior. The problem is that they started doing not their jobs, but everything that wasn't allocated to them constitutionally. And now they're demanding further access. I mean, the whole thing. I just love this video so much because it's one guy. You don't know his name. He's some rando who's standing in front of these doors and a bunch of brain jackasses are standing in front of him trying to wow him with their supposed influence. And they're incredulous because they can't are incredulous. They can't. The incredulity is off the charts here with these people. Like, and then the one chick turns and looks and she says, oh, well, you know, he's not letting us access. I mean, we're elected. How dare you? I mean, we're elected members of Congress. They are acting like elite brats. They're acting like how dare you deny us something? They're not acting like lawmakers. They're acting like brats because they've already had their hands smacked by the executive branch for overextending their authority beyond their scope of power. And they're vowing to push back all the more. So USAID, more and more is coming out about this. And Doge keeps digging. So now the left wants to just destroy Musk and Doge. And I think that Musk, who I've explained is not a conservative, he's, I think, a political product of the moment, of this time. And that's not a bad thing, so long as you understand what you're dealing with. I think, fine, let it turn him loose. Because all of these Democrats, they're complaining that this is unconstitutional. I mean, the Treasury Department and everything else, for people who miss this in grade school, literally falls under the executive branch. And, Cain, who has the executive branch? Oh, POTUS. Oh. Oh, it's POTUS. So what happens with the Treasury Department, And what's been happening as of late with everything that you've seen, literally, per the structure of our republic, falls under the power and the authority of the executive branch. So he has every bit of authority to say, no, you can't do this anymore. We're shutting this down or we're doing this. He has every bit of authority to say this and to do it. So it's not unconstitutional. We're going to talk about some of this because this is the big topic right now. I mean, the... hits on musk and now they're targeting they were targeting the uh oh the uh uh nerds that they had will you please and i think we have it and i just i haven't looked at you know what i'm going for right now right do you okay so we had a big radio summit friday for those of you tuning into The Dana Show with your curmudgeon Dana Lash here at the mic. And so I wanted to cancel the radio summit. We do it every year. And just for this audio. Because the left, I mean, you can just, you can hear, if you're not watching it, you can imagine how contorted their faces are in distaste. So this is from CNN. This isn't, I sent this, I was like, we gotta cancel not being here Friday just so I can play this audio. I think it's CNN or MSNBC, and they're talking about the name, the code name of one of these nerds that's been helping Elon Musk, right? Because they're targeting now. They want to target the nerds. They want to go after the nerd army, like the nerd army cares. One of the reasons that they're the nerd army is because people were going after them for years. So this audio, do we have this?
SPEAKER 07 :
You're talking about the montage?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, no, no. I'm talking, Cain, about BB.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my gosh. There's a montage of BB.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, does it start with the lady who just can't believe she has to say this on air?
SPEAKER 07 :
It starts with Anderson Cooper, if that's what you mean by lady. No, it is a different cut.
SPEAKER 14 :
But go ahead and start it as long as we're saying it. Watch. Listen.
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Thanks for joining us. We begin tonight with Musk and Big Balls. Big Balls. Big Balls. Big Balls who work for Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE. In the one case of the Big Balls kid, a literal teenager.
SPEAKER 10 :
Big Balls online. Big Balls here that Katie's talking about. A 19-year-old that goes by the username Big Balls. So that would be one way that we could refer to him. Young computer whizzers. Whizzes, the aforementioned Big Balls.
SPEAKER 18 :
Because who among us doesn't feel better about big balls?
SPEAKER 07 :
Big balls. The media was just having too much fun with it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, no, I think that they were trying to say it because they thought it was absurd. It's almost absurd, by the way, as studying the effect that flavored cigarettes have on lesbian obesity. But I digress.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then how to make them stop.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, my gosh. What about trans mice? Yeah. Did you not hear about the tranny mice? Can I say that? Tranny mice?
SPEAKER 07 :
That genetic experiment that gave them two dads?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, or something like, no, no, no. Like they were trying to make the mice cross-dress. I don't know how you do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because they did that too.
SPEAKER 14 :
You just give them a little skirt or something?
SPEAKER 07 :
With our money.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, with our money. I could have done that with our money for a hell of a lot less. Here, wait, you know, can I just volunteer myself if we have a ministry of stupid redacted? Just put me in charge of it and I'll fritter away money. I can do it for a hell of a lot less than what these people were doing it for, right? Let's, I mean, why stop at, flavored cigarettes and lesbian obesity, right? Why stop there? Like, let's just, like, look at everything. I don't know what all we'd look at, but we'd find waste and waste money. I mean, I feel like that's what they already do with us right now. USAID is a dumpster AIDS fire of government corruption and waste. I mean, it's just... I don't know. I... So they've been going after the nerd squad, acting like they're so shocked. The people who hired eighty eight thousand IRS agents unconstitutionally to target like your Venmo exchanges. Oh, my gosh. They got all your data, but they cannot stand it. If these younger people have your data. Oh, what? I mean, how can you treat this 19 and 20 year old? tech expert as it were or coding genius as it were they're still like 19 and 20. how how can you sit here and treat these people as experts say the people who treated a 13 year old brat as a climate god just want to put that out there i mean think of it or whenever the parkland like the one kid who wasn't even there and they made him like he's a gun control god The left, right? That loves to paper up expertise in youth. Except when you have like a really genuinely qualified youth. All they're doing is going through and making sure these people are justified to be in their roles by way of merit. And then X-ing out all of the waste. I've never seen people react so harshly to being told, we're here to save your money. We're saving you money. That's how entrenched, by the way, the left is. They don't care if you're trying to save them money. How dare you do it? I mean, yes, you're messing with all their weird studies and the money that's going everywhere. I mean, how dare that? But that you're doing it? By the way, over the weekend, I found out there were a lot more people on the USAID dole, including some people on the right. And I watched someone try to gaslight me in a very long and, you know, thread to which they had an absolute mental breakdown at the end of it. They were trying to gaslight me about it, saying, well, you know, this particular group didn't accept money, except they did. But it was like a lot less than these other people were accepting money. Still, they were accepting money. I don't care who did it. If you want to know where I am on the scale of anger, where 10 is like pretty mad, wherever hang them high is, that's the number I'm at. And I don't care what side of the aisle it falls on. Some of us pay six figures in taxes and we are limited in certain things that we can do because we're paying so much to the government. And some of us have to keep it. We have to pay that much to the government because if you try to do any Barack Obama style trickery, guess what? You get audited. Interestingly enough, for every single year that a Democrat is a president. Huh. For some of us, that's our life. So yeah, we're pretty angry. A lot of us are pretty angry over this. We got a lot to hit because I actually didn't get to get into the rest. Oh, the Uper Say Olbey. I can't even say the name, can I? Or I'll get sued.
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No, you did it just right.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so 98% of Costco shareholders don't back DEI. I would have thought that. I'm curious as like the Sams versus Costco. They're like cults, by the way. You know that? I have like stories. Like you can divide your friends in Costco and Sams. It's like teams, man. It's real weird. Anyway, they said that it was a new survey that was done. And they said that, I mean, 90, like all of them. That's like huge. I don't know if you can get 98% of people to agree on everything at any point, but that's pretty significant. This police say a Colorado. Tesla dealership has been vandalized in a third attack in two weeks. That all seems political, by the way. Futurism says that the Cybertruck appears to be more deadly than the infamous Ford Pinto. They've been doing this analysis. I'm trying to figure out where they're getting this from.
SPEAKER 07 :
These hits on Elon are getting a little ridiculous.
SPEAKER 14 :
You cannot like the Cybertruck, but to say that it's more dangerous than the Pinto... Are you a Martian? Is this have you been on Earth for an hour yet? I don't know. I mean, I just I feel like that's the next question that comes with all of this. So Trump has amended the CBS lawsuit to claim 60 minutes in Kamala Harris's interview, unfairly diverted viewers from his interview. platform on truth social that's according to hollywood deadline this suit adds a number of new claims uh over the network's edits and they said that trump is now claiming cbs engaged because they did an unfair competition after they deceptively edited in the interview in a way uh because they were boosting her up i mean it was horrible and we'll talk about this coming up trump rules out deporting prince harry he says he's got enough problems with his wife no Deport him anyway, though. I would send him back anyway. We have a lot more on the way. The media reaction. And what did you think of Uperse Olbe? Stick with us. Kel-Tex PR 57. It's a 5-7. And it is the lightest 5.7 on the market. It is 40% lighter than the next 5.7. It is a very unique top-loading design that replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips. So it has a very slim carry profile, 820 plus 1 capacity. And it was built to perform when it matters most. Low recoil. Engineered for simplicity and reliability. The MSRP is only $399. This is one that you can get. It's the PR57. It is engineered, innovated, manufactured by Kel-Tec. This one was the first one to come out of their new Wyoming expansion facility. And they got a lot more on the way, too. But this thing is this rotary barrel pistol. Chambered in 5.7 is redefining the game yet again. Check it out. Again, $399. This one is one you can get. when you should get the PR-57, a great 5.7 from Kel-Tec. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com to learn more. That's K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. So this is a 19-year-old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online. So that would be one way that we could refer to him. He is now working at Musk's Behest inside Doge. And we looked into his background. I love this name. You know, several notable things, Aaron, one of which is that this individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name, Tesla dot sexy LLC, which he established in 2021. He would have been around 16 years old. Now, this LLC controls does.
SPEAKER 14 :
I love this. I love it so much. I love this new cycle. Yes, I'm 11. I'm not going to apologize for it. You know why? Because you have to be absurd to match the level of absurdity that we've seen. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you, bottom of this first hour of Chats at Rumble. Hopefully everything's humming. And then you also have Channel 347, DirecTV. Okay, so. I waited all weekend to play all of this audio. I also saw that one of his tech bros, I don't think they said which one it was, right? One of the 19-year-olds, I guess, or 20-year-olds. Actually, I think he was older than 20, but under 25. The media was very excited because they thought they got something. The 25-year-old software engineer who is working inside the Department of the Treasury, which sidebar, again, falls under the purview of the executive branch. Kane, one more time. Who's the head of the executive branch?
SPEAKER 07 :
That would be POTUS.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's POTUS. So all under the purview of POTUS, because he's the head of the executive branch. So this 25-year-old who was working inside of the Treasury Department to root out fraud and cut costs. Oh, I can't have that. They found him. Oh, they found this guy. The Wall Street Journal found this guy's, I guess, one of his social media accounts. And... They said that he had posted some racist stuff. And they said, oh, in July of last year, the account posted, quote, just for the record, I was racist before it was cool and all this other stuff. It's I mean, when and looking back at this. First off, the guy – that was the only recent tweet that they could find. And then they went back to when the guy was a teenager on social media, which is why parents should not allow their teenagers, I don't think, to be on social media. I mean, unless – like X and that because Google never forgets. And – you are just throwing everything out there to the wind and it'll all be used against you in some unfortunate fashion you know whatever now kids say stupid things sometimes you guys know this because you were once kids kids say stupid idiotic things right i mean i had one who now is like the vice chair of the democrat party tell me that i owned congress and fomented murder but okay They say dumb things sometimes. And the adult's job isn't to further empower saying the dumb things. You know, it's to maybe set a better example. I mean, honestly, when you look at the stuff that's happening in social media or on television today, is it any wonder that anyone who is younger would say anything stupid with role models like some of what we got here? Good grief. So I can't really take the the protestations on the left seriously. So anyway, the guy resigned. Right. He I think it was a an agreed upon resignation. And then Musk was asked. Whether or not, and something that Vance had put was, you know, if you could disagree with this guy's post and his stupid social media activity, that should not ruin your life. And Musk replied with, he will be brought back to air as human to forgive divine. I have to be frank with you. I think that the... The offenses that this guy uncovered far exceeds any concern that anyone would have about him saying stupid stuff on social media when he was a teenager. And also, I think some people say stuff just for clicks, like Candace Owens' entire career is made off of saying stupid garbage that gets attention. So you have people out there that will say stupid things. They burn hot, but not for long. They'll say stupid things because it gets engagement. It's all about engagement now. It doesn't even matter whether or not someone agrees with you. That's why you see so many people on social media that say patently idiotic things. And then they get all of this engagement. And then that's how they make a lot of money. In fact, it's infamously applied on social media, your farming engagement. It's, you know, it's on purpose. And that even, some things even have to be worded differently and it's, What's so weird is that, you know, a sidebar to this is that this was supposed to be a vein for more authentic and personal direct communication. And it's turned into something so far removed from that. But I digress. So this guy had access to all these treasury payment systems. They were mad because he was able to snoop out what they were doing. And so they thought that they they got one. I'm a little bit more concerned about the fact that we were literally funding weapons training for Hamas members than this. That that's incredibly concerning. That's I haven't seen anybody on the left say anything about that. Adios, somebody 10. Ilhan Omar defends her Hamas friends. Listen.
SPEAKER 01 :
I mean, what we are witnessing is a constitutional crisis. We are seeing an executive branch that has decided that they are no longer going to abide by the Constitution in honoring Congress's role in the creation of the agencies.
SPEAKER 14 :
First off, I interrupt her again. The Treasury Department for Ilhan Omar, who apparently didn't study about that enough when she was fleecing people, Democrats in Michigan after she married her brother. The what she doesn't understand here. And let me explain something to this DEI hire if you want to. Yes, it's true, because I can't imagine anyone that stupid being in that seat saying something so unbelievably idiotic that an eight year old would know because they learn about the structure of government in elementary school. Once again, the Treasury Department, where all of this is happening. falls directly under constitutionally, if you want to go read the Constitution instead of talking about it, the authority of the executive. You cannot tell the executive that the executive cannot run the executive branch the way that the executive sees fit. That's where Congress does not have that authority. So she's wrong and stupidly so. All anyone on her staff has to do is just a basic Google search. Learn the structure of the government you claim to serve. Asinine. So they're livid. They're all livid over this. And they should be. And they should be ashamed, actually. If they had souls, they'd be ashamed. We're going to talk to Brendan Carr about this tomorrow. But the FCC is opening a probe into a Soros-funded station. We're going to talk more about this here coming up with immigration. Because there was a Soros-adjacent station that has been tipping off people about ICE. Which, that's not a First Amendment issue. That's obstruction of federal law. I was told... That it's an insurrection. That rule still is applicable, correct? That it's an insurrection. I mean, that's where I'm seeing it. That's what we were told by the left. They're I mean, I'm just I'm so fascinated with all of this. And like I said, we're going to talk to Carr about more about that specifically tomorrow. And we were going to discuss more of immigration here coming up. I do think that Democrats are making a huge mistake here. Mediate has this story about on the Hill also. Let me pull up the Hill. How the. They're livid again. Everybody's livid. They're saying now former Treasury secretaries are writing scathing New York Times op eds warning against Doge's threat to America. They said that, quote, our democracy is under siege. None of these people, including Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers, Timothy Geithner, Jacob Lew and Janet Yellen, not all of them Democrats, all of them from Democrat administrations, conveniently enough. Of course, they don't understand this. It's not a democratic process. This is a republic. I mean, literally, you're talking about the executive branch and these co-equal parts. I'm just shocked that they're using the phrases that they're using. You can have, again, a democratic process. So we have democratic processes in our republic, but it is not a democracy. It is a republic. It's just incorporates, again, some democratic processes. Now, there are there again, all of this is about access to the federal payment system. There are three nerds that have read only access. That is an indisputable fact. I'll say it again. You have three nerds that have read only access. People know what read only access is. I would hope so. Correct. Everybody knows read only accesses. It literally means you can only read it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Can't write code.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, you can't write code. You can't touch it. You can't alter it. You can't distribute it. You can't do anything but gaze upon it. That's it. Read only access. That's exactly what it means. They've never had anything more than that. It is an indisputable fact that has been publicly reported and, of course, obscured by people, conveniently so, to fuel a narrative so people can go out and ignorantly proclaim things like democracy is dead or whatever. Now, Because this is about shrinking the federal government. These people don't want to be out of a job. So a bunch of Democrat socialists are mad that someone is coming in to audit the system and report upon waste, fraud, and abuse. Actually, that isn't a siege upon democracy. It is a siege upon the enemy of democracy. Unaccountable tyranny. That's exactly what that is. They're mad because they incriminate themselves by objecting to this. And that's what they don't realize. And that's how everybody in the country is looking at it because everyone in the country, the majority, is backing this. Pew was trying to say with a stupidly loaded poll. I read this and I looked at the crosstab data and it's I mean, they literally were like, let's talk to a Republican. They need to heavily slant something to fight back against the survey that did come out from a third party. A Reuters Ipsos poll via Newsweek, 61 percent of U.S. adults actually back Trump's plan to downsize the federal government. And they back what Doge is doing. That was the third question on the survey. And it's a pretty evenly split ideological sample that is over a thousand in size. Whereas the Pew Research was like, let's talk to five voters and maybe half of one of them is a Republican. That's why some of these surveys are just garbage. They're just garbage. So with all of the reason, one of the reasons you're hearing so much weeping and ashing of the teeth amongst the left is because they know this. They're desperately trying to convince people otherwise and people aren't being convinced. I mean, you have what, doesn't he have a 61% approval rating right now? That's insane. You know, because he's doing the stuff that he said he was going to do when he ran. And people respond to that. And even if people didn't vote for him, you know what they're seeing? They're seeing someone that a group of people elected, even if they didn't vote for him, who's doing the things that the people who voted for him asked them to do. And they're looking at that like, wow, we didn't get that with Biden. We got a lot more on this coming up. We're also going to talk about Uperse Olbe. I'm curious as to what some of you thought. Some people said it was the worst Super Bowl in history. Some people said it's time for Roc Nation to stop playing in the halftime shows. And then Taylor Swift got booed. But I think it was just by Eagles fans. I don't think it was just everybody at large, right? Or was it? I don't know. Trump was there, but he did leave after halftime because the Chiefs. I don't know anything about football, but even I knew that was rough. That was rough. That was rough. And I, I begrudgingly was leaning towards the chiefs, although I don't care because I'm supposed to, people were trying to do emotional appeals to my Missouri roots. So I don't know. Anyway, we're going to get into all of that as well here coming up as we move. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top-rated precious metals company GoldCo to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. GoldCo has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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I do believe that fear is truly warranted in the sense that people of color are just going to be rounded up. I mean, this is this. I mean, we've we've lived, especially as black folks in this country. Right. Like it's the racial profiling.
SPEAKER 14 :
First off, who the hell is doing this show? What is wrong? Can you just put that? Sorry, Juan. Like, what is up with the camera work? First off, was this like streamed from, like, was this a home ec battery and connection that created the stream? And what's up with the set? Like, it's a really good idea to have the camera facing the window and backlighting all of the people doing the program. I mean, even Juan's laughing over that. I'm sure, like, you guys are picking it apart. Like, what in the world? I almost couldn't hear the stupid stuff that was coming out of her mouth because it looked so atrocious, which goes to show you not everybody should podcast. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. Days of these United States. So when have they been rounding up people of color, Cain?
SPEAKER 07 :
I thought that was a long, long time ago.
SPEAKER 14 :
Man, these Democrats have not changed since, like, Reconstruction and prior. They are still the same, well, you better do this or you're going to get rounded up. Democrats are telling, is that what they're telling minorities? That you're going to get rounded up unless, that's what it sounds like. They've been doing it for years. Yeah, they've been doing it for years. And the left is like, wait a minute, our side tells us that if we don't do something, we're going to get rounded up. Damn, Republicans. I mean, how is, doesn't even make any sense. No. That's exactly how it goes. That's exactly what they do. All right, so we're going to talk about some of the big game. I can't say ooper, say olbe. I'll get sued to death, and they'll shut our show down and probably get a strike. No, I don't think you can.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't know. I thought you could afterwards.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, the leather ball bowl. Let's call it that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
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The LBB. Or is it Naga hide? How many Nagas were killed to make that ball? Naga, the official animal of the NFL. Anyway, so I didn't watch hardly any of it because I don't care. It's bread and circuses to me. I can't get into certain teams except for God's team, which is the Cardinals. But that's different because it's just a bunch of angels that play ball and they're very good. Anyway. I saw some of the commercials and the halftime show. I didn't even watch the whole halftime show. I was bored to tears. It started out with all the promise in the world, right? Like you had the horns and which I thought you could have probably had a lot more being that it was in New Orleans, right? I mean, New Orleans has a rich music heritage. And they had the brass bands. I love me a good old brass band. Oh, my gosh. Love the brass bands. I'm like, as soon as I saw the horns, I'm like, oh, Harry Connick Jr. comes out. You know it's going to be good. They should have had some of the Marcelluses out there. I was just kind of shocked. Why wouldn't there be a Wynton Marsalis on stage? I mean, I didn't mean to sound like Chris Walken, but it just happened. But anyway, they had like, you know, great musical. I would have loved to see all that. Hell, I would have watched a Harry Connick Jr., Marsalis, all of that halftime show. Then Kendrick Lamar. Which I thought was boring. No shade. I just was bored to tears. We got to talk a lot more about this because Swift got booed. Stick with us. More of the show coming up. Second hour on the way. Achieving vibrant, youthful skin doesn't have to be complicated. With the power of Native Path Collagen, you can nourish your body from within and enhance not just your skin, but also your hair, your nails, and help your gut health. By incorporating Native Path Collagen into your daily routine, you can promote a plump radiant complexion, reduce signs of aging, and boost your overall vitality, all without any unnecessary fillers or additives. Native Path Collagen has only type 1 and 3 collagen, the most important types, making up 90% of your body's collagen. No artificial sweeteners, just pure third-party tested goodness. It's completely flavorless, so you can just add it to about anything, your coffee, your smoothies, oatmeal, or whatever you want. And the best part is that Native Path's peptides formula makes it more bioavailable, so it means your body will absorb it easily. Start your journey to healthier skin today. Get NativePath.com slash Dana and stock up on Native Path collagen and save up to an incredible 45% off plus free shipping. Every order includes a 365-day money-back guarantee, so you can try it risk-free. Don't miss out. Head to GetNativePath.com slash Dana. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of the second hour. Find us on Substack, Chapter Inverse, YouTube, and Facebook as well. Did you guys watch Ooper Say Old Bay yesterday? We can't say Ooper Say Old Bay because they're very legally proprietary and they will sue you to death. And then YouTube will take you offline to death. But I kind of watched, because you guys know I'm such a football fan. What? Why are you laughing?
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You're who I go to when I have questions.
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Yeah, that's right. That's how it is. Yeah. Like the pick six thing that happened.
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Right. That was good.
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Yeah. So... Taylor Swift was there. I was glad that we didn't. I liked the photos that I saw from Trump. There was a photo where he was standing up saluting and he was there with his daughter and one of his sons was there and other people in the box. It's the first time a sitting president has attended the Super Bowl. Sidebar, I can't even imagine the security logistics for that. It makes me tired just thinking about it. Good night. They said there were snipers on rooftops, which, of course, you know, that's true. That happens anytime POTUS goes anywhere. But I would imagine at the stadium you need more. So all of that, he was there. He got applauded. I think we can play that, can't we? Or no? Yeah, we can. Can we play him getting applauded? Yeah. Because I wanted to show you like a difference.
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Yeah, they're both pretty short. And these aren't, I don't think there's anything copyright stricken on this. So yeah, we can do that.
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Okay. This is Trump being cheered when they showed him on the Jumbotron at the Aim Gay. Listen. Let's fight. Oh, and they showed him and he's getting cheered. He's getting cheered. And then Taylor Swift was shown. Now, you could say, and I don't think it was all the stadium booing her. Look, I'm not a fan of her music. Just because, not because I think it's bad or it's not, you know, it's poorly written. I mean, clearly she's capable of writing songs well. It's just not my jam. at all uh and she was shown and was booed mercilessly and she she became a meme she became that little monkey meme where the monkey looks at the camera and he's like very for those not watching the simulcast i just looked sideways at the camera so she got booed i think we have that this was all merciless and then she looked at the camera and Oh, man. They showed her and she's on the jumbotron. Oh, she's getting booed. Okay, so explain something to me here, Kane. Is that just Eagles fans doing it because she's the girlfriend of a Chiefs player?
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Yeah, there is some of that. There's definitely some of that. Well, because there's also a chant of, you know, F. Taylor Swift. F. Taylor Swift. That also could be Eagles fans. Yeah, which are all Eagles fans. So like I said, there are some there's some of that. But based on the cheers of the president and knowing her stance against Trump, I think that that, you know, some of it also was we know like you because of your stance on Trump.
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Well, POTUS tweeted about it or posted about it. He said the only one that had a tougher night than the Kansas City Chiefs was Taylor Swift. She got caps lock booed out of the stadium. MAGA is very unforgiving. Now, I don't know if it just had to do with MAGA. I could have been just the Eagles fans, but I would have still tweeted the same thing. I'm not going to lie. Quick sidebar. All of the Eagles fans that I know are super sweet, so I don't get the stereotype about Eagles fans.
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What?
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I don't get it.
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What are you talking about? They're super nice. What are you? In what instance have you interacted with Philadelphia Eagles fans?
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When I've been to Philly.
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Really? Uh-huh. The Eagles fans that you hung around with?
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Well, they're there, so they're Eagles fans.
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It's not.
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One of my friends was at the Super Bowl, and they're real nice, and they're a big-time Eagles fan.
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No, there's Eagles fans, and then there's Eagles fans at games.
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There's not a difference.
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There is.
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I think that's mean. I don't know. I think you're picking on them.
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I think Eagles fans at games are perceived to be more mean than just Eagles fans when there's not a game going on.
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I think Cardinals fans are the most polite fans. St. Louis fans are the politest.
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That is true. That's true.
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I don't know. I'm just saying. That's well known. Vegas Larry told... Well, maybe you got something here. Vegas Larry says, quote, Eagles fans booed Santa years ago. Oh! Oh! I mean, he literally gives you free stuff. Ho, ho, ho. And, you know, Merry Christmas. And here's some presents. You know, blah, blah, blah. Reindeer.
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Santa's wearing the other team's colors. Can't have that.
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Oh, my gosh. Unless he shows up. So wait, you got to basically show up in green. And then they're like, wait a minute. Ah, OK, I get it. I get it. That's actually hysterical. Something about that that I find incredibly endearing. Well, anyway, so POTUS was cheered. Taylor Swift was booed. The world is healing. I don't know. It was called the worst Super Bowl in history. It was bad. Now, I will say, I'm not going to, I feel weird critiquing someone's passes at a game because it's like the same thing as me watching ice skaters do like triple sow cows and me who can't even ice skate going, that was a horrible jump. The technical was missing so bad. I mean, look at the placement of her toe. You know, it feels similar. So I saw... Don't laugh at me. I'm not a sports commentator. But I saw Patrick Mahomes. God love him. He just looked heartbroken. His face was just, ugh. But I saw him, you know, throw a pass. And the other guy caught it. And it looked like he was throwing for the Eagles. I got to say, he was off balance when he threw it. I could even tell that. I'm like, that's not going to go well. And it didn't. And I just, oh, and then it was downhill from there. I also think that if I watch more than 10 minutes of a game, whoever you all want to win will lose. I am very superstitious with this stuff. Oh my gosh. Super superstitious with this.
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I'm only a little stitious.
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Oh man. I think it maybe dovetailed with, I don't know, made me think I had OCD. Like even when I was in high school and sports, I was super, the way I did my laces, the way I like did my spikes, everything, you know, like I had to have, I would, when I was running and when I did four by eight, I would have to, I could not stand to have sweaty hands with a baton. And I would constantly like interchange it. My coach would scream at me like, who cares? It bothered me. I could feel it as I was running and it bothered me. It's just weird things. And yeah, and see that that's the place where you can be superstitious, right? And I would wear the same because my high school's colors were red and white and I would wear like only red that day. And I'm, oh my gosh, if I did, oh my gosh, I would wear something dirty if I didn't have anything clean. I don't even care. Very superstitious. That said, I don't think I should watch Like any more of the Super Bowls. I was talking about my giant cereal bowl. Thank you. Nazi. Anyway, the commercials. First halftime show. Kendrick Lamar, not my cup of tea. He's not heavy enough. That's fine. He's a Pulitzer Prize winner. He's this famed lyricist. I don't care. That's great. Not everything translates to that kind of audience, right? Not every when people are watching the Super Bowl halftime show, they're drunk, they're snacking, they're rowdy, they want to have a good time. They don't want any deep dives into anything. They don't they don't want any like anything that's they just want to have fun. And there's nothing wrong with that. And I'm not saying that his music is bad. I'm just saying that it doesn't translate to that type of it does not have the energy that was required for that national stage like that, for a Super Bowl. Just different. Like if you're going to have like a hip hop performance, like when they had Snoop out and who else did they have like a couple of years ago? They had everybody. That was fun. It was energetic. You know, I just felt like that was lacking with us. I don't know. I loved the, like I said, the horns and all of that stuff in the beginning. I also, some of the commercials were, I feel like we're going to need a little time to talk about those. Let's get in the commercials here coming up because I will say there was one commercial that's getting ratioed into a hole in the ground and that's the He Gets Us one. You had Pfizer that had a commercial. Then they had a commercial. I think you can, while I think that they were, you know, being clever, I do think that it was kind of inappropriate, the one about breast cancer. Like it was literally about breasts and then they were like, oh, and cancer. And then they got like, what's her face, Wanda. You know, when you think of like big boobs and ladies, you think of, you know, the very not feminine female comedian. Just saying. I don't know. I thought that was a little over the top. There were some that were just kind of crazy. The one with Snoop and Tom Brady where they were pretending to hate each other and then Snoop said, I can't believe we have to make an ad about this. Okay, just a reminder. Correct me if I'm wrong here, which is a rhetorical tool, as I'm always accurate. He did do a video where he shot a replica of POTUS in the head, correct? Yeah. Okay. He did that. All right. So I think what's missing here is any kind of acknowledgement of culpability in the heat as it pertains to rhetoric, right? Just saying. Because... He's no mild or small time influencer. All right. It's Snoop Dogg. He's, you know, we grew up with him. I just think that you owe a little more to the audience than just that. Right. I mean, it's nice. It was a nice attempt. And I know that he's, I guess, on the POTUS train now because POTUS pardoned somebody, a friend of his or whatever, who was in prison. I get it. But you have to realize, and I think one of the things that the right doesn't always realize, is that a lot of the celebrity support, especially like newfound celebrity support, it hasn't dawned on them yet that the support is transactional. There's support and then there's transactional support. Transactional support means that that support can go and be transacted elsewhere, right? So something to keep in mind as people, you know, as this discussion continues. The He Gets Us Super Bowl ad is being raised because it's soft, happy, friendly BFF Jesus. And they used the cover of Super Bowl. Nine Inch Nails song that Johnny Cash covered on a Rick Rubin album, which was phenomenal. And I saw someone saying, well, they used a story. It was Depeche Mode making a mockery of faith. I don't know if you would go so far as to say that of Dave Gahan and Depeche Mode. And I'm a huge Depeche Mode fan. It's one of my favorite groups. It was also questioning and also mocking one's own inability to believe. to believe in something. So it was a lot deeper than that. But that aside, uh, Johnny Cash's cover was great and it, he made it where it was his own and it was a sincere expression of faith and questioning. And, um, some people were saying that the ad was to, um, milk toast and that it was, you know, the happy BFF Jesus who never condemns anyone. I think that those concerns are legitimate. I also think that that's if you read the Gospels and you see that, yes, Jesus was very, you know, this is to come to the to come to the fathers to come through me. However, not everything has to be brimstone. I don't know if this is like neolegalism or what, but I feel like we need to talk about this here more coming up. We got a lot still to hit. We have headlines on the way. You know that ivermectin, they talk about it in terms of prevention, et cetera. It's simple, fast, and affordable to get it on all family pharmacy. 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It's already 1230? Headline to me. Yay! Let's see. Ooh, apparently the real Iron Man exists. So it is the real-life Iron Man. Okay, flashback. Do you guys remember seeing the video? We played it on the show of this guy in a jet pack literally landing on a military ship. This guy, that's the real-life Iron Man. So he made a deal with the military to use his futuristic jet suit that allows soldiers to soar over war zones at 85 miles per hour plus. Dude, the guy, he's a British engineer. Richard Browning is on a mission to bring jetpacks to the military. His futuristic jet suit uses five gas turbines to reach heights of up to 20 feet at an impressive speeds of 85 miles per hour. Can you imagine? Like that's scarier than a drone. What if you also had like guns like attached to the tops of your arms? And you can just like punch and it shoots a bullet. Just saying. So it is very, you can actually fly in a non-weaponized jet. They don't have them weaponized yet. My first thought was to put guns all over it. At about $8,000. If you're at Goodwood Estate in California. Yeah, to do that. I don't know why, but it looks pretty cool. I would do it. I'd totally do it in a heartbeat. Oh, my gosh. And I'd fly the hell away with it. Although they could probably remotely disable. Anyway, I need to move. Let's see. Sports betting, the risk of gambling addiction rises, too. Durr. What do you think sports betting is? New Zealand is changing to golden visas to lure wealthy immigrants. I guess because all of their productive people left because their former prime minister was a loon. So they need help. Let's see. What is this? A Gen X dance party that ends at 10 p.m. is taking off across the U.S. It's a new fad. It's founded in Chicago by two friends in their 40s. It's called the Early Birds Club. And people can let loose but then go home by 10. Everything ends at 10. It starts at 6 and ends at 10. Actually, that sounds lovely. I mean, half of the time, I don't want to go. I'm just saying. Oh, let's see. And the FDA recalls more than 2 million cases of donuts. I don't know. They said they could be contaminated with listeria, and it's FGF brands in U.S. and Canada. Stick with us. We've got more in store. The only Christian conservative cell phone service out there, Patriot Mobile. They're on the ground and helping empower not just parents, like in my community, like they did with the school board fight, But good patriots all over the country and holding on to their communities, fighting to control their school board, fighting to make sure that their kids are learning like actual academics and not just genital obsession. And Patriot Mobile is you're going to get better service than you had anywhere else. That's a guarantee. I have great service, and that's the way it is with everybody. Everybody gets Dana's service. It's nationwide coverage you can trust because they operate on all three major networks. You are staying connected wherever you go. And your money isn't working against you. This is so bad, guys. Think about all the different ways I was just telling you that the government has been weaponizing your money against you. Wouldn't it be nice if your cell phone bill money actually worked for you? That's what Patriot Mobile does. And you have seamless switching. They have a 100% U.S.-based customer service team. You're creating U.S.-based jobs. You're maintaining U.S.-based jobs. And they're going to walk you through everything when you switch. Keep your number. Keep your phone. Change it all. It's entirely up to you. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service with promo code Dana. Make the switch today. patriotmobile.com slash Dana 972-PATRIOT
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And we will be in the House. While we do not have standing to sue, we are working with the organizations that are bringing suit. We will file amicus briefs. So we will use the courts are critically important in this area. The other piece of that is the outrage of the American public. And when you think about there is a legal issue, but you have to think about what the – You know, what are the repercussions to American families? You take education. You're looking at denying people school lunches. You are taking the opportunity for a college education if you cut Pell Grants. You cut student financial aid. There are a whole range of what these services do for the American public. That's the word that has to get out. When you cut education, you cut $72,000.
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This Perry Farrell track blows. This is so bad. You know, no wonder he got into a fight with Dave Navarro. No wonder he got into a fight with Dave Navarro. I mean, clearly, he's not right. Perry Farrell, Jane's Addiction. They are talking about... Oh, that's Rosa DeLauro? No, that's Perry Farrell. They've not been seen in the same room for... No, I'm saying this because it needs to be said. If you... No, they are twins for a reason. Don't argue with me. They're the same... They're the same person. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Hang on. I got to share this tweet with you. Oh, man. ABC News. I've seen this over the weekend. They're really trying to make this a thing. They're trying to scare you. So ABC News is saying that everybody's going to get AIDS and die of AIDS. Quote. The head of the U.N. AIDS agency said the number of new HIV infections could jump more than six times by 2029 if American support of the biggest AIDS program is dropped. So if you do not pay, you're getting AIDS. That sounds kind of like extortion. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone is going to get the AIDS. If you're watching the simulcast, that's the tweet. So it's not my problem. Also, it's not my problem. You know how long we have been telling people how you get AIDS? Gosh, this is so gay. You know how long, G-A-T-Y, I'm kidding. Do you know how long we've been telling people? My whole life. My whole life. There were things all over MTV about it and VH1 and everywhere else growing up. Like this is how, I mean, TLC had a whole thing about chasing waterfalls. Don't get AIDS. You know what I mean? They had a whole verse. Well, you remember that Kane? Everybody knows it. How do you not know? It's very simple. Don't be a whore. Yeah, don't use drugs and don't be a whore. Don't use intravenous. Don't be shooting up no dope. And don't be out there whoring around. It's very simple. How do you need billions upon billions of dollars for decades to tell you this? Why do we have to keep spending money on it? Why? You know what it goes to show is that some people want to be just irresponsible and there's no amount of money that is going to make that go away. People are still going to choose to be irresponsible because they think they're immortal. So they think that's not going to happen to me or maybe they just it doesn't even factor into any of their thought processes. They just choose to do it. It doesn't matter. Someone suggested maybe ask Gaza, the people in Gaza for some of those prophylactics and they could use those because there were a lot that we bought over there. You know, I'm just saying like a ton of those prophylactics. I'm just saying. But this idea that it it seems like I guess that it didn't work. Spending all of that money all of this time. But this is the stuff they're saying. It's the whole Democrats talking about how everyone you love is going to die. Anytime they don't get something, everyone will die. They're so dramatic. It's like watching a soap opera. One of your grandma's stories. Well, if you don't give us these billions, everyone's dying from AIDS. It's Dr. Evil ridiculous. You realize this, right? One billion dollars. It's so dumb. Or, well, they're going to take everyone's lunches away. That is not at all what is happening. But it's adorable that they want to keep pushing that. But that's not what's going on. Just doesn't end. So we were talking about the Uper Se Olbe. And with respect to, what is this ad? We can't post it because you get sued to death. So just imagine it if you would. I'll come back to the other Doge stuff because the New York Post had an ad that somebody put out about the AIDS stuff. He gets us. This was a Dallas firm that was behind this. All of my friends were debating this on Facebook. I just wanted to throw myself off a roof. It's a Super Bowl commercial. Aren't these the people that did the ad last year that got a lot of criticism too? I think so, yeah. I mean, it's not like it's a bad... It was better than the one that had boobs everywhere. Although boobs are back. It's the he gets us ads. One of the criticisms was they reduced Jesus to a guy who wants to give you a hug rather than a savior who came to make dead sinners alive. I think... And I'm not making, I mean, I'm not really, I don't got a lot of faith behind the entities that do these. I do think that it is often overlooked in the whole buddy guide Jesus approach that, you know, sin is sin and that doesn't change, right? Stop sinning. Like he told the woman at the well, go forth and sin no more, right? And there was a recognition of sin and then the repentance and reconciliation. I mean, that's the biblical order of things. So it shows what it signifies is, I guess, Jesus meeting people where they are. But then the message kind of stopped there. Like, well, why are you where you are? I mean, some people are in a position because it's a misfortune. Bad luck is sometimes horrible things happen to good people. Some people are in a situation because they put themselves in the situation. And I think that that's It's not what I have seen on a deeper level in terms of the reaction to this ad isn't about the sin part. that is being committed, but the lack of accountability in terms of you don't get to skip steps going to reconciliation. Does that make sense? I mean, you acknowledge that you did something wrong and there's redemption and you repent. Repentance is a big part of it. Go forward, sin no more. Repent, go forward and sin no more. So that, I do agree that that's usually missing in their ads. But what does it say that all of the other ads were so bad that that one looked wholesome? Except for the seal. We've made this joke forever. Seal as a seal. They did it. And he did it. They put the singer's head on a seal on a rock with other seals and he sang. Did that arrest you where you were when you first saw that came? It did. That's like nightmare fuel. Yeah.
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I did see a little tease like screenshot online before I actually saw the commercial. So I was kind of prepared for it, but that was really creepy. I was even questioning if that was Seal actually singing.
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Oh, that was Seal. Was it? Yeah, of course it was Seal. I mean, it's, you know, he's many years later singing a song, but it was Seal. It was just weird. And it was a Mountain Dew commercial and it was Taika Waititi's. He's the guy who did What We Do in the Shadows and Thor and a bunch of other stuff. But he did that. He apparently was the one who did it, which makes sense when you know that Waititi did it. You're like, oh, okay. Yeah, that makes actual sense then. It was still weird. I actually forgot it was about Mountain Dew. I was like, that is... And he was holding a bottle of Mountain Dew with a flipper? A fin? Hands? Seal? Seal? Hands, the flippers. I don't know. Yeah. He did that. That's going to be out there forever now. I don't know. He's not a bad looking guy. It's just why they made it. It looks so weird. It's just so weird. I don't know. But the commercials, I don't know. I just wasn't. I wouldn't. In it. Now, coming up. the issue of Gaza. So apparently Hamas has decided they're not going to honor any other, they're not going to release any more hostages or honor any other agreements. I'm sure you've seen the hostages that have been released. They look like they stepped out of a concentration camp. It's horrific looking. And did you hear the story of the one gentleman who That they released and they made him say a few lines on camera before then they let the Red Cross take him. And he said he was excited to get back to his wife and daughters. And then they laughed and they laughed as he said that because they had already killed them and he didn't know. They did that as just another means of torture. I can't even imagine what these people are going through. So we're going to have Trump's reaction and then Hamas's. It'll be very interesting. We're going to get into all of that as well coming up because now they're saying they're not going to release anymore. I don't think this is the time they want to F.A. because F.O. will happen fast. Now everybody is, the pendulum has swung the opposite direction. The power paradigm has shifted. They will, it's going to be very different. I don't know if they realize that or not, realize that yet or not, or they're so ideologically blind. It's just, you know, it's endangering to them, which is good. We're going to get into all of that and more. And we got Florida man on the way. So I got to tell you, ReadyWise makes just the best survival food that's out there because I've had others and they're garbage and they don't keep well. ReadyWise does, though. So several. So I'm going to tell you three things I like about ReadyWise. First and foremost, these are U.S. agriculture. So these are U.S. ingredients. It's packed in a U.S. plant by U.S. workers and sent to your doorstep so you can trust your ingredients, which I think is important, especially if things are going sideways and you're worried about sustaining yourself and your family. You kind of want to be able to trust your food source. You know what I'm saying? You also want to trust the chain of command for that food source. So I like that. I like that it's nutritious. They employ a team of in-house culinary experts, nutritionists, and all these actual people people who do this for a living because they craft all of the packages, all of the bundles that ReadyWise offers. They're all crafted by these in-house culinary experts because what's the purpose of survival food, right? To survive. They're making sure that your food is meeting all of your caloric needs, your healthy carbs, and also your protein. You can have breakfast, lunch, and dinner options. They have whey milk. They have all kinds of stuff. So I love that as well. I also like that they have an array of product choices to meet every budget imaginable. They have their one month supply, their two bucket bundle, their three month supply, all of it, 25 year shelf life. And this is great not just for survival, but, you know, like for camping as well. My grandfather used to take my grandma's sun tea and spam to go camping. And I would like to think, or when he would go deer hunting, any hunting, I'd like to think that he would have taken ReadyWise if it had been out when he was alive. I think he would have enjoyed it a lot more. Visit ReadyWise.com. Use promo code Dana20 at checkout and get 20% off your whole purchase. That's ReadyWise.com. Promo code Dana20 for that 20% off. I've seen the amazing changes Relief Factor has made for so many people, and I've seen it firsthand through my husband Chris's pain relief from using Relief Factor.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Oh, we are going here. Florida attorney is accused of striking a man with a dinner plate over a buffet etiquette dispute. That's right. A Florida man. It was at the meat station where this happened. Uh-huh. It's a Florida attorney named Mark Roher, 52. He is accused of assaulting a man with a dinner plate at a wedding reception following a dispute over line cutting at the Boca Lago Country Club in Boca Raton. According to Palm Beach County Jail records, the altercation escalated from a verbal confrontation to a violent incident resulting in Roher's arrest. It happened. Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office detailed the events that transpired. It wasn't just a meat station. It was the prime rib cutting station, which is holy in the world of buffets. What happened is two girls apparently cut in front of Roher, who looks like he probably has never missed a meal. and enraged by the breach of etiquette, he confronted the father of one of the girls, and it set off a chain of events and bad parenting that culminated in a physical altercation. There was photos and apparently video, which have not been made available on the Internet, but we all can't wait for that to happen. And they said that Rohrer's actions were unprovoked and aggressive. Witnesses said that he aggressively confronted the victim, and then the violent assault with the dinner plate happened. Onlookers tried to intervene and separate the individuals, but Roher persisted with the dinner plate madness. And he did admit to police that he spoke to the victim, and then he invoked his Miranda rights, but then later provided a statement. He was taken into custody, released on a $1,000 bond after a brief stint in jail. So what have we learned here, ladies and gentlemen? We've learned several things. Don't let your brats cut in front of people at the prime rib cutting station because that's the prime rib cutting station. That's like the Catalina wine mixer of all of the buffet stations. It's not the fruit station. It's not the salad station. That is where you get your slices of delicious prime rib meats. Okay, very important. Number one. Number two, don't be the meat head that hits people with dinner plates because someone cut in front of you at the meat station. Pretty sure there's probably still some meat on the bone for this feller. Probably pretty sure that it wasn't his first time through that line. So everybody learns a lesson. We all go home safe and happy and full, right? There you go. Let's see. A Florida man defrauded a Middlebury woman by posing as a bank. How does this even happen? Dion Henry, 21, of Oakland Park, Florida, is charged with fraud as a level six felony. He tricked a woman into sending him $800 by claiming to be from her bank. Who in the world would believe this? He called her, told her to withdraw $800 and send it via money order to repay an amount that was used from her account at a Walmart in Georgia. The victim told police she sent the money, handed over receipts to verify each transaction, but then she became suspicious that the caller didn't actually work for the bank when he told her to use Cash App Zelle. that was your first indication kid chimney christmas anybody asked me for anything I always am immediately suspicious. Like, you're a fraud. You're a fraud huckster. So they were able to bust this guy. A Florida man was busted with 16 grams of meth. That's messed up. During a traffic stop. And he's completely cross-eyed in his photo. 41-year-old Chester McKinley. I mean, that's the name that I would think that Chester McKinley has. How is he 41? Have you seen him? That man ain't 41. That's a 70-year-old man pretending to be 40. You know, you'll get methed up. You can't do meth. It was Walton County Sheriff's deputy stopped a truck for an obstructed license plate and the driver admitted to the deputy that he didn't have a driver's license. He was only test driving his friend's truck after he was doing some repair work on it. They detained him, searched the vehicle. Oh, what did they find? They found large plastic bags containing a white crystal-like substance under the middle seat. It weighed about 16 grams and it tested positive for the methamphetamines.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, look at that. How does his one eye look at the other eye like his other eye?
SPEAKER 14 :
I feel like there's a National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation joke happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's looking at his other eye.
SPEAKER 14 :
Got kicked in the head by a donkey and went straight. I don't know. So he was arrested, charged with trafficking meth and driving without a license. $50,000 bond. Because apparently he had enough that it was just not for his own personal use. Yeah, $50,000. Florida woman runs over a 71-year-old woman on the beach. mm-hmm florida woman said she got run over by a truck at daytona beach the alleged driver said she did not see the woman seated in a chair on the sand on the beach where people sit when they go swim in the ocean because it's the beach they haven't get yeah how do you not see that she told police quote i never seen her that's the actual quote you know that, look, I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say meth or liquor, or maybe both. I'm just saying, you know, just feels like that. Let's see. A central Florida man is accused of stealing appliances from construction sites. I'll have to save that one for you tomorrow. Third hour on the way. Steven Yates will be joining us. You don't want to miss. Stick with us. You know that Ivermectin, they talk about it in terms of prevention, etc. It's simple, fast, and affordable to get it on All Family Pharmacy. These are doctors that you work with, like actual doctors, not like big pharma type doctors. And when you visit allfamilypharmacy.com, you can use code Dana and get 10% off your whole order. So I was taking my Ivermectin that I got from them. They've also helped me out like over Thanksgiving when I couldn't get into my doctor. And I know I'm getting strut throat. I know it's a thing. and I was able to get the antibiotics I need because I've been to this gut rodeo before, and their doctor was able to sign off. They sent it like in a day and a half, and that's not even expedited. That's just like how fast they sent it. You can skip the hassle, and here's what I really like about the medicines that they offer at All Family Pharmacy. It's not made in China. They're not made in China. These are all elements from the U.S. of A. So that's huge, I think, when you're looking at medicines and antibiotics and things like that. You can get comprehensive treatment options in addition to the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. You got antibiotics and over 200 other essential medicines. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off using promo code Dana. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10 gets you 10% off today. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of this third hour. I can't believe it's already the third hour. I know. There's more to talk about than this. So we've been covering... And I am amazed at the progressive... freak out over Doge. And one of the things that I said last week was, if you guys remember this, I was questioning what you guys would do in this situation. If you had someone like, I have my public Facebook page and I have my private Facebook page and I have my private Facebook page. I have a couple of friends on there that are a little bit, that I've known since I lived in St. Louis and they're not correct about politics. Let's just, they lean pretty left. But we've always been friends and I don't do tribalism. However, They have been freaking out over the Elon Musk stuff, right? Like, oh, call your lawmakers. Can you believe these people have this access? And I'm like, what makes you think that? Why is it not okay for three nerds to have read-only access, but you have not said anything about all of these people in government, unelected bureaucrats, who hate you, by the way, who had access to all of your vital information? You didn't elect any of them. So why are they only just now concerned? And especially they weren't mad when these people were spending your money. But now they're mad that the unelected nerds with read only access are saying now stop spending this money. That's what's making them mad. And they're trying to use scare tactics to freak everyone out. So I've seen that you're going to get AIDS. We're going to die in a hellfire. Our kids are going to not ever have teachers again. All the old people will die. What else? I could actually sit here and do this for forever. Listen to this. Listen to Chris Murphy. Lose his mind. These people are freaking out. Listen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Listen, I think this is the most serious constitutional crisis the country has faced. Certainly since Watergate, the president is attempting to seize control of power and for corrupt purposes. The president wants to be able to decide how and where money is spent so that he can reward his political friends. He can punish his political enemies. That is the evisceration of democracy.
SPEAKER 14 :
I got my stress guy. It's called Panic Pete. This is what that makes me feel like. So, Chris Murphy, everything is a constitutional crisis. Oh my gosh. How is it a constitutional crisis? Once more, once more. The executive branch, underneath the executive branch is the Treasury Department. The Treasury Department answers to the executive branch. Who is the executive? Once more, Cain.
SPEAKER 07 :
President of the United States.
SPEAKER 14 :
President of the United States, a.k.a. Mr. President, a.k.a. POTUS. Completely constitutionally within his purview. That's not even up for debate. That's why this is all so stupid. What is up for debate is everything that is not Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution being spent and serviced. If you want to have a discussion about a constitutional crisis, it is everything that we are doing in our federal government outside of that constitutional scope. Article 1, Section 8. Insane. That's a constitutional crisis. Oh my gosh, they're losing their minds over this. And they're acting as though, I mean, when you hear some of the fear mongering, our democracy is under siege, say Democrats. Then they had the New York Post that they had this headline where, according to the again, this is the U.N. AIDS agency. All these millions of people are going to die from AIDS if we stop giving countries money to study gay sex. That's ultimately what they're saying because they were referencing programs within USAID, which I even think is a stretch because it's drug users also, intravenous drug users. But also, how much money have we spent in the past, I don't know how many decades, telling people how not to get sexually transmitted diseases? Kane, if you had to wager a guess, how much would it be?
SPEAKER 07 :
How many, what, decades?
SPEAKER 14 :
How much do you think we've spent over the decades on telling people how you procreate?
SPEAKER 07 :
I would say it's close to a trillion. I mean, we've been doing it since the 80s. So I would say it's probably a trillion or more.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Boy, it's really worked out, hasn't it? Apparently not. Without all this government spending, people are just, what's going to happen? Without the government paying PSAs for you to not step into traffic, people are just going to be walking right into traffic and dying, Cain.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wait, so our billions of dollars to this quote unquote cause was the only wall holding AIDS back?
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. Our taxpayer dollars were literally holding back the AIDS.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 14 :
I know. And now we're taking those dollars away so the AIDS is just going to come.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right back.
SPEAKER 14 :
All the AIDS is coming like a tsunami of AIDS. 525,600 minutes. That's the only thing I know from that play about AIDS. Rent AIDS is what it was called.
SPEAKER 07 :
So bird flu, AIDS.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, gosh. Pick the way you're going to die. If you don't pay off the plague it's gonna kill you we just need the government for all we just need yeah we need the government protect us oh government said nobody ever i i don't know but that's what they're just they're oh the hill they have their uh a tidal wave of resistance is coming for elon musk really These people are so stupid. Have you seen them? They couldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight, these people. Well, the resistance is coming. The resistance is coming. Gosh, make our day. So done with us. What is wrong with people when someone's like, hey, look, your government is wasting per trillions of your dollars. Let's stop it. And then the left out there goes, oh, no. We'll all die of AIDS. No, we won't. What the hell is wrong with you? Why do you need all this money? I'm just shocked that here you have these dorks doing you a favor. Say, cause they don't even get paid saying, Hey, we found this spending, you know, pushing their little glasses up on their nose or a little pocket protector. Like, Hey, we found all this extra spending. Maybe you guys want to cut it. And the left loses their minds. How dare you save us money? You know why? Cause they're not the ones paying tax. Think about it. I bet I pay more tax than Barack Obama. Oh, I know I pay me some more tax than the Bidens. I mean, hell, if I didn't have any kind of moral compass, I would be fleecing everybody right and left. I'm going to tell you something. It's not just Democrats either. I'm sure you've seen some of these stories with some of these conservative organizations that have been on the dole for USAID. Shall I name some of them? To be able to say it was one, which is sad because that's a great group. And I was kind of sad to see them listed. I saw someone trying to explain and gaslight me into how grant money works. That's not how grant money works, sweet cheeks. It's not at all. God love you, but it's not. It goes to show you that there has been a lackadaisical attitude towards accountability that has not just been pervasive on the left. It has been almost equally so on the right. Don't think for a second that they're and I don't care. I don't care who it is. Any group on the dole of USAID should be dragged. I don't care if they're Republicans. I don't care. I had a friend tell me, well, you know, we shouldn't really criticize some of these Republican groups that were on the dole for USAID. You know, the left is using that as you know, they're really using that to divide the right. No, no, no. That's not my problem. My problem is that I pay six figures, mid to upper six figures in taxes. No joke. And you're now telling me, that I can't equally criticize anybody on the right or left who stole our taxpayer dollars to use to pad their pockets because the left might use that and weaponize it against the right. Anybody who took that and they're on the right, they're not on my side. They're traitors to the Constitution. They're traitors to the conservative movement. And they've been fleecing you while pretending to service you. That's my problem. I don't care who all is brought down. Bring them all down. I'm here to get, I want to get rid of it. All of it. And I don't care who goes out with it. If you've been taking the money, bye. I don't care. This is why I hate tribalism. Tribalism prevents true accountability. You can still say you're a hardcore constitutionalist and you're a hardcore conservative and you are all about conserving individual power and you want to limit big government. And you can still say, you know, this group right here that says they agree with me. Why were they taking this amount of money? I don't even care if it was less than some of these other groups. Why were they taking any accountability for all means accountability for all? There is no discrimination with that. True patriots who want to end this, they know this truth. That's why they are unmoved by these arguments from the left saying, oh, well, but this person. Nope. That's not it at all. Not at all. So I'm all for, you know, then you've got this guy. Can we play this on somebody at 11? So this is now, this is a, from what I understand, an article three judge. So an order, so the judge referenced here, you had a judge who's trying to put a limitation on the executive order. Trump being able to hold accountable the Treasury, which I think is stupid because that's unconstitutional. However, to remove this judge, you have to have the House do it and the Senate has to convict, you have to impeach him when it's a judge at this level. But audio soundbite 11, this is a judge who decided, no, no, no, Trump is the executive and the executive doesn't get to say what the executive branch does with the executive authority. What? Trump responds.
SPEAKER 17 :
I got the court lawsuit, Mr. President, and J.D. Vance said judges are not allowed to control the executive power. What's your take on But we're going to see what happens. We have a long way to go. And we're talking about fraud, waste, abuse. And when a president can't look for fraud and waste and abuse, we don't have a country anymore. So we're very disappointed with the judges that would make such a ruling. But we have a long way to go. We have to look. We have to find all of the fraud that's going on. We have tremendous fraud, tremendous waste and tremendous abuse. And theft, by the way. And the day you're not allowed to look for theft and fraud, etc., then we don't have much of a country. So no judge should be, no judge should frankly be allowed to make that kind of a decision. It's a disgrace.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I don't see how the judge can't. I know some people say, oh, we got to get rid of that judge. But because it's an article three, the way that the selection process for a judge of that level, you have to have the House and Senate be involved. Audio soundbite seven. But see this. Now, I showed you there was one survey that had a 61 percent approval of Trump. There's another one that has 53. Listen to CNN, what they had to say about the approval of everything Trump's been doing. Audio soundbite seven.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, I think one of the things that's so important for politicians is for folks to believe what they're saying and that they're keeping their campaign promises. So I think this gives you a pretty gosh darn good idea of what may be going on. Trump's doing what he promised to do. You go back to April of 2017. It was just 46 percent. of all Americans who said that Trump was doing what he promised to do. Compare that now to February of 2025. You know, there was a good show that was on during the 1990s called A Different World. That is what's going on right now. We're living in a different world. 70% of Americans say Trump is doing what he promised to do. Again, compare that to April of 2017, when it was just 46%. Wow. When Americans are 24 points more... That's huge.
SPEAKER 14 :
And the left, they have no way to combat this. The only thing that they have to do is what they've always done, complete hysteria. But where do they go from there? You can't just say, uh-uh. You can't. This is why, by the way, this is why it's so important for these states, every red state, to be able to mobilize and help back up his agenda state by state. Now you're seeing why I've been getting so infuriated. at rhinos in florida and in texas now you now you get it why they deserve all your scorn too we get a lot more on the way as we move we got headlines coming up achieving vibrant youthful skin doesn't have to be complicated with the power of native path collagen you can nourish your body from within and enhance not just your skin but also your hair your nails and help your gut health By incorporating Native Path Collagen into your daily routine, you can promote a plump radiant complexion, reduce signs of aging, and boost your overall vitality, all without any unnecessary fillers or additives. Native Path Collagen has only type 1 and 3 collagen, the most important types, making up 90% of your body's collagen. No artificial sweeteners, just pure third-party tested goodness. It's completely flavorless, so you can just add it to about anything, your coffee, your smoothies, oatmeal, or whatever you want. And the best part is that Native Path's peptides formula makes it more bioavailable, so it means your body will absorb it easily. Start your journey to healthier skin today. Get NativePath.com slash Dana and stock up on Native Path collagen and save up to an incredible 45% off plus free shipping. Every order includes a 365-day money-back guarantee, so you can try it risk-free. Don't miss out. Head to GetNativePath.com slash Dana.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 14 :
I felt like pickleball was like, what did you say? It was an older folks sport? Kane? Well, I don't know. This is what shocks me. CBS says Georgia police officer was fatally shot responding to a pickleball club. Suspect was arrested. The suspect, 23-year-old Edward Espinoza, was taken into custody. There was apparently some disturbances at a pickleball club in Roswell, Georgia. The officer approached a guy for questioning. The guy was in the parking lot, pulled out a handgun, fired multiple shots at the officer. Killed him. Horrible. He was taken into custody. He's been charged with murder, aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer, and also possessing a firearm and a commission of a felony. That's, I mean, so maybe it's not so much about pickleball. What was this guy doing at a pickleball club? Who snaps like that? What in the world? Hopefully we'll learn more about that. Let's see. A seven-year-old junior drag racer was killed in a racetrack crash while driving a vehicle that can go 85 miles per hour. We got to be careful with some of this stuff. I mean... I loved three and four wheelers when I was a kid. You still got to be super careful with us. A little short here, but we'll make it up for you next time. We have Steven Yates, who's going to be joining us coming up momentarily because China's not clapping back. Stick with us. It's the non-firearm firearm. Burn a gun. B-Y-R-N-A. Burn a gun is... A great option to diversify your self-defense array. I have friends who, look, we'd all like to say, I'm never going to go to a gun-free zone. I would love to do that, but I'm also an adult, and I have a job that I got to do, and sometimes I have to go to those places. And I have friends who live in areas of the country where maybe they were able to get a license to carry, but then everything is a gun-free zone. So this is where the Burna gun comes in. They went out and got the Burna SD. That's Burna's most popular model. It's a five round capacity and it shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. It has a lot more capacity than like a regular stun gun, which is one or two shots. So this is doesn't care about gun free zones. It doesn't require a waiting period. There's no background check and it can go wherever you want to go. And it's a great way to diversify what you have for self-defense. And my friends, like I said, who live in these gun-free areas, they have to work jobs that require them to go to places where they have to be completely at the mercy of criminal elements, unfortunately. But now they don't have to be statistics because they went out and got a Berna SD. So check out Berna.com slash Dana, and you can get 10% off of your purchase when you go through that URL. It's B-Y-R-N-A, Berna.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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SPEAKER 20 :
I just wanted to share some things that are going on at my agency. In the last week, we had Elon Musk in our building, and after he visited the building, called for a 50% cut of the entire agency. My colleagues are getting 15-minute one-on-one check-ins with 19, 20, and 21-year-old college graduates asking to justify their existence. Supervisors are being told not to. tell their staff anything, withhold information, and today we got word that supervisors must now fill out a justification form and that there's gonna be just a 30% rank and yank with all staff in my agency. And to top it all off, one of Musk's top lieutenants and his wife and young child have chacked up on the sixth floor of our agency and are living there. The hallway's been blocked off with a special access list for people who can't get back there. Queer and trans folks of my agency are being doxxed in public.
SPEAKER 14 :
My response would be, well, what's the problem? This is what I voted for. I voted for that. Yeah, I did. And I'm getting it. Look, we're getting things that we were told we were going to get if we voted. And that's not anything to be sad about. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lashley. That was a federal worker who was at a town hall event in Virginia, and he was complaining about the, quote, 15-minute one-on-one check-ins from Doge, the ages of the nerd army that is doing all of this stuff, all because they're rooting out waste, fraud, and abuse in the Treasury Department, which, again, is under the purview of the executive because Treasury is under the executive branch. Who's executive again? POTUS. I don't know why there's any issue here. Joining us now on this and a million other things is our super smart friend Stephen Yates at Yates comes on X senior research fellow at the Heritage Institute, our Heritage Foundation. And we're so glad he's joining us via Skype. I got to get your reaction to this because the weeping and gnashing of the teeth from these federal workers who they're. livid that they have to justify the expense and resources that they're eating up to do what? What are they doing? What kind of investment, what return on this investment are taxpayers getting? What did you make of this?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, Dana, I mean, I have to say that I am hurt and I might need to seek some counseling and therapy for having listened to that sound recording. What comes immediately to mind is that infamous movie clip of we are all dumber for having listened to what you had to say and the idea that this weirdo is just making stuff up to an audience that laps it up like a kitten having milk out of a bowl without any questioning. Oh, so Elon Musk is shacking up in a government building. What in the world relevance does that have to do with anything? I saw a picture allegedly of Elon Musk sleeping in possibly the most patriotic bedding I've ever seen. I need some of that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I think that was an AI image, but I say it's real.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'd buy some. Yeah, I would too. And so queer and trans folks are being doxxed. Where is a shred of evidence that that's happened even once? Yeah. So this kind of weird charade, I think is ugly and dumb and just out there enough that hopefully the most Americans are like, holy cow. If these guys are howling about shutting down waste, fraud and abuse, We have obviously let this cancer grow for far too long. Yeah, there might be no pain-free options to remove the tumor, but it's fatal if you don't. So go ahead and cut away. And I think that's just what a lot of Americans who've been paying into this, the howling over, Oh, don't go and find duplicate Social Security numbers and question whether funds have been going to people who either don't exist or who have committed fraud and are stealing money that is supposed to go to help those most in need. I mean, there is nothing more immoral than that.
SPEAKER 14 :
I completely agree. And I had to kind of wonder if these people that were so upset over being looked into by these, you know, the nerd army, they never complained at all when you had the FBI through, you know, government unaccountability targeting and persecuting conservative parents who spoke out at school boards. They were being classified as domestic terrorists. Those people were entirely silent then, as you remember, never objected.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm really also very offended at this ageism that has run rampant in this chattering class. Now, I'd be the first to say there's a pretty big difference between my generation and my children's generation. There's a lot of things that think different, walk different. We're just different breeds of ducks completely. But there are 18 to 22 year olds who who fight and die to protect our country. What in the world is wrong with people trying to say that there's a problem with this age demographic? If they can parallel park a rocket ship or they can fight and die for our country, then get off my lawn about their age. The issue is what are they doing and under what authority? They have the president's authority. And so, I mean, really, I'm done with them on this.
SPEAKER 14 :
And to your point on that, these are also the same people that elevated a 13-year-old brat from, like, where was she from? Sweden or Finland or Norway? That Greta Thunberg girl. They acted like she was a weather god. Like, she was the all-important expert on climate. How dare you? Her.
SPEAKER 19 :
She was 13. You know, 18 to 22 year olds are writing every executive order in the Biden administration because we know he wasn't.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Exactly. It's a great point. All right. I wanted to ask you real quick. And then I got I want to get into some of the China response to Trump because they're ongoing with tariffs. The hostages that were released from Gaza. I is that going to be finally enough for people to go, wow, for anybody who didn't think Hamas was as evil as they are? Is that going to be enough to see these three individuals who were released back to their families? They look like they were coming out of a concentration camp. from like the 30s crazy and I the one of the guys that they had read a statement before they allowed him to go to the Red Cross he was talking about how he wanted to get back to his wife and daughters but you know the Hamas was laughing I mean they were seen on the video kind of chuckling because they had killed him and he didn't know and my heart just broke for him I mean what was your what is that going to finally maybe wake people up I mean what does it take
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I think my sad answer to that is no, it's not going to change things because people's minds have been so pulverized and frankly perverted over recent years and decades. For any sane person with a heart and any sense of morality, when you see these kinds of things, it ought to be a watershed event where there really isn't any question on whose side you should stand. in this conflict. And the absolute first priority should be ending the fighting and killing, but also getting all the hostages back. They never should have been taken. And there is all the whataboutism that these lefty lunatics that have corrupted demonstrators across campuses and wherever else. They try to make this moral equivalence, but Israel, but America, whatever. No, on our worst days, times and circumstances, we don't do the crap that these people have done to all these others. And I think we're at a year and a half now. This is really just mind blowing that anyone could not see this clearly. But it's not just sort of the young generation. I bet if you polled a good sample of our Congress, There are still a lot of people that wanna talk about, but Trump, but America, but the occupation. And and so we've got a lot of work to do to bring people back to sanity. But no, sadly, seeing reality hasn't been enough yet. Yeah, I hope I'm wrong.
SPEAKER 14 :
They're also apparently now one California representative. They were talking about going after Trump for more articles. They want to impeach him over Gaza articles of impeachment. Really? I don't even know what. they would impeach him over. They're trying to say he's taking over Gaza. I think he was just, I think maybe it was just rhetoric. I mean, I don't even, again, what's the criminal charge? We cannot do this again.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I can't believe how reflexively they've really just gone from racism to Hitler Nazism to just impeach, impeach, impeach. The biggest joke of them all recently was one August representative getting up and saying that the president needed to be impeached. for dastardly deeds committed and yet to be committed. And I thought, well, that must be like one rung below ACDC's dirty deeds done for cheap. Because once you go there, then you've really crossed the line. But we're just at dastardly deeds that may be committed. But what they've done is just undermined any sense of real checks and balances or any credibility that they wanted to be a loyal opposition. Their reflex is just go for the nuclear option, And thankfully, we have a tenable majority that won't pass these things out of committees or the floor and a Senate that were something like this will never really move. But it's a waste of time. And I really, really wish we could get back to the business of the day. But this is what they're doing to distract away from the fraud. Billions, trillions of dollars of fraud.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it's it's. Which is, it just makes me sick every single time I have another USAID headline, which one question on that, and then I want to pivot real quick before we let you go to China. Because the USAID funding, it's been going on since the 60s. And everyone keeps saying, like, I think the latest threat was everyone's going to die of AIDS. If we don't keep if we turn off the money for this because of the AIDS programs, I don't know. It sounds crazy, but that's literally what they've been saying there. What good came from it? I'm trying to think like I know that there's a lot of stuff that was funneled through USAID and there's certain things maybe that I think you can argue related to NatSec. And I know you have some experience with those, but it seems like any good was far outweighed by the fraud and the abuse.
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Well, I think anytime you put these things in motion, there is an inertia. And in policy or warfare, it's called mission creep. And whatever good there might have been in saying when you're in the Cold War, we want to try to do some pro-entrepreneurship projects or pro-infrastructure projects or pro-public health projects in an area where it might get us some political currency and we'll balance against the Soviets. or balance against some other kind of threat. There could be geopolitical arguments about things like that, but it has to be within proportion in terms of money is expended. There also needs to be transparency and accountability. You have to be able to say, where did this money go? What was the result you got? You have to be open to audits if you're gonna do those kinds of things, but never in a bazillion years. And that's a literal technical government term, bazillion years. Did our founders ever imagine that we would be taking money from American taxpayers to engage in the study of how to spin yarn backwards while dealing with fluid people in a starving nation. This is just not what we ever had in mind for money and it serves no strategic purpose. And when you look at the money and the magnitude that went out the door in the last three to six months of a dying administration, that's where it goes way off into the scandalous territory.
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Last question for you, my friend. We're talking to our friend Stephen Yates, who, if people are unfamiliar, served in two presidential administrations, is an expert on China. We were talking about the tariff, brewing tariff war with China. Now they want to do tariffs on $14 billion worth of U.S. goods. The Wall Street Journal had this, or no, sorry, Financial Times had this piece. I did kind of chuckle because it said the subhead was, Beijing may be better prepared this time for renewed trade conflict with Trump, say analysts. But it's I know that to everybody else, everybody else, 14 billion seems astronomical, like a crazy number. I agree. But in this context, it's actually not a lot, which is weird to say. Give us some perspective on this.
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It's a relatively small percentage of the amount that Americans vacuum up back from China. We're on both sides of this equation. We pump them with economic opportunity, technology, and investment. We manufacture back there and process things back there that we then purchase and ship back to ourselves. And so just think, if we ever got out of our own way and we draw some minerals out of the ground, where do we send them to get processed? Well, here's the quick answer. China. We send it across the Pacific, process it in our enemy that wants to leverage things against us. And we bring it back to the United States and have a tariff assigned to it. So the first thing we got to do is strategically decouple and we have to change our supply chains and we got to get out of our own way most of all. But this tariff stuff, I think China is actually shaking a bit more than they let on and Trump has acknowledged this is just one of the tools in the toolkit. It's not one he's gonna back away from, but anyone who wants to take a deep dive on this, read Ambassador Lighthizer's book, No Trade is Free. He literally wrote the book on the subject. It's deep. There's a lot more to it than people think, but I think we're gonna be okay as long as we hold firm and really get serious about investing in America and our allies.
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I just found it on Amazon that fast. Immediately as he said it, our good friend Stephen Yates at Yatescoms on X. So good to see you. We're so grateful for your perspective. Stay warm, travel safe. I don't envy you traveling into snow. So we'll talk again soon.
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Thank you, Dana.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you as we wrap up this third hour. And I'm just seeing poll after poll because, you know, everybody's doing the check, the expectation check with POTUS now that he's settling in. And I mean, everybody's really liking what they're seeing. Promises are being delivered upon. And do you know what's included in that? Is the approval of Doge and the way they're handling it. You have to be rough with these bureaucratic barbarians. Sorry, that's mean for barbarians, but nothing else worked. I mean, the BB that like was, you know, the assonance was or the consonants that there was great. There are. wildly approving of it. One survey was 60. The Pew was the one that was the outlier. I think what was it? CNN's was the highest, wasn't it?
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That was the highest. That shocked me. Not as shocked as the hosts were when they talked about it, but shocking all the same. And I just say and you're not going to be able to push any kind of resistance against accountability because that's how people are viewing this. They welcome it. The left's got to get new narratives fast. All right. Today in stupidity came.
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Well, this may be an example of one of those new narratives. Boy, the harpies on the view. More specifically, Anna Navarro. She related to Dave. I hope not.
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This is what she thinks Trump's next executive order will be. Listen to this.
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What about you, Emma? Okay, well, you know I don't do sports. You know I don't do football, so I wasn't watching the game.
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I think today Donald Trump is going to sign an executive order banning black people from halftime. Well, why?
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Join Mike Gallagher as he explores the incredible scene at the Super Bowl, where former President Trump makes history with deafening cheers from the stadium. We discuss the societal and political signals emanated from this landmark event, exploring the divide between reality and the narratives portrayed on social media. In a world where gaslighting becomes a tool, Mike unravels how these moments reflect America's ongoing transformation and what it signifies for supporters and detractors alike.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Gellerman.
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I've been thinking a lot about what it must be like for people who hate President Trump to see the Super Bowl stadium erupt in a roaring ovation for him when he was shown on the Jumbotron briefly during the Star Spangled Banner yesterday. And I went to social media because I thought, I wonder what they're saying. How do they take that news? How do Trump haters cope with... the recognition that millions and millions of Americans, indeed the majority of Americans, are so receptive to what he's doing? I should have known. You know the answer, right? They lied. They just went full-on gaslighting. They pretended that the booing that they heard in their heads was real. The roaring of the crowd turned into boos, I guess, in their mind. It reminds me of the young lady that was interviewing the race car driver, and it turned into one of the most memorable expressions of all time, let's go, Brandon. The crowd in the background was yelling, blank Biden, blank you Biden, blank Biden. And the nervous reporter, as she's interviewing the race car driver, said, oh, look, they love you. They're yelling, listen to what they're saying. Let's go, Brandon. Let's go, Brandon. Let's go, Brandon became the metaphor for everything that was wrong with the Biden administration. Let's Go Brandon became a national mantra for how we felt about the disastrous Biden-Harris administration. And it was the same thing yesterday. I mean, here's the clip. I'll play it for you. All you do is sit in your living room and watch. If you were at the Super Bowl, you heard it. I had a good friend who was at the Super Bowl with his wife. He said, Mike, it was unbelievable. When they showed Trump on the Jumbotron, the cheering, the roar, the ovation he got was almost deafening in the middle of the Star Spangled Banner. But again, if you look through social media sites of Trump haters, They're like, oh, he was booed. They booed him. Yeah, that's right. That's right. They were simply saying, let's go, Brandon. Check it out yourself.
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Broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight for the Reds.
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Did you hear that? Now, that was incidentally a beautiful rendition of the anthem from singer Jean Baptiste. Did you hear that roar? If you're listening just on the radio, let me just happily tell you why they started roaring cheers of approval. They were showing Trump on the Jumbotron. Look, I don't care that people booed Taylor Swift. I don't know why. I don't want to make a big thing out of that. But for me, the most profound moment as that historic visit, first time a sitting president has ever gone to a Super Bowl. Even Trump said in one of his interviews, I'm surprised that that's true. I can't believe there weren't any other presidents who went to the Super Bowl. But the roar, the ovation, the seal of approval from one of the biggest sporting events on the planet, if not the biggest, was unmistakable. But so is the lying and the gaslighting. So are those who, oh, he was booed. Did you hear how people booed him? And I loved it. Oh, it was great to see the way Trump was booed at the Super Bowl. And it didn't happen. Again, this is called gaslighting. Gaslighting is when you try to convince somebody that something isn't so with the express purpose of trying to make them think they're the crazy one. It's based on an old, I think it's a British play, where a husband did that to his wife. It's called gaslighting. That's where the term comes from. It's sunny outside. Do you see it? Well, not really. Look, it's raining. I can hear the pitter-patter of rain on the roof. Yeah, but I'm looking outside. The sun is shining. No, no, no. You're mistaken. It's raining. Hear the thunder in the background? That's rain. That's what they're doing with that incredible moment. And for me, it was the only moment that mattered yesterday. For me, it was the only thing that counted. I didn't care about the game. I didn't care about, I really didn't. Good for the Eagles. They looked great. Too bad for the Chiefs. They looked awful. Patrick Mahomes looked like he was completely overwhelmed by the Philly defense. The Super Bowl ads, some of them were weird. Some of them were fine. Some of them were great. I just enjoyed it. I mean, I just liked the spectacle of it all. But that moment, that moment when Trump was cheered, And for many people, the contrast of Taylor Swift being booed is important. Again, I don't think much about Taylor Swift, other than I know how phenomenally successful she is and she's good at what she does and people love to hate her and her boyfriend is Kelsey and blah, blah, blah. I don't care about any of that. But many people say it's important because it signifies the cultural shift in America. We've gone from trying to prosecute a guy named Trump to cheering and giving him a wild ovation, a roar of support at the Super Bowl while booing one of America's iconic superstars. And why? I don't know why they booed her. My friend Mark Davis says it's because of her unabashed hatred for Trump, how political she got. Some people say, well, it's because she's oversaturated. Well, is there anybody more oversaturated in our culture than Trump? They're not booing him. They're cheering him, and they're booing her. Come to think of it, maybe the competing reactions is significant. Here's what Trump said, Fox News Channel, on attending the Super Bowl and how things are rapidly changing.
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You know, you are going to be... The first sitting president to attend a Super Bowl. It's a big day for America, always is. What made you want to do it?
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Well, first of all, I'm very surprised to hear that. I would have assumed many presidents came. But I think just the spirit of the country, the country's taken on a whole new life. I thought it would be a good thing for the country to have the president be at the game.
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It was during his interview with Bret Baier before the Super Bowl, which incidentally they aired like hours before the Super Bowl. If it had been a Democrat president, my hunch is they probably would have popped it in about a half hour before the Super Bowl started. But I think the interview with Trump ran around 3.30 Eastern time. The game didn't start until 6.40. Let's dive into all of it. I want to get your reaction to it all. 800-655-MIKE. Give me your thought. your reaction to the effort to gaslight people into thinking that Trump was actually booed at the Super Bowl when, in fact, the literal opposite thing occurred. It's what they're left with. It's all they've got. If they can't convince you with facts or logic or reason, maybe they can just lie to you and you'll change your mind? I don't know. I don't get it. But I frankly find the gaslighting Kind of satisfying, because I realize how desperate they are and what they're left with. And they're witnessing an evolution of this country. They're witnessing our country morph into something that... just a short time ago, many of us never thought was possible. And it's here. Change is here, and it's now, and it's real. Give me your reaction to all of it. Give me your take on the Super Bowl. I want to throw the phone lines wide open to you on a Monday. I've got a lot of mixed emotions today. It looks like I lost a friendship over the Trump era, and I'm very sad about it, and I'm trying not to let it impact my show today. But I'm so disappointed in people who just want to fracture a years-long friendship or a family member and a family relationship because we don't agree politically. We don't agree with the direction of the country. I have to keep reminding myself, these people don't hate Trump. They hate what America is. They hate what America has become. And that's very sad to me. I'm not even angry about it anymore. It just makes me sorrowful. But let me get your reaction to all of it. I want to throw the phone lines open to a bunch of voices. Here in the Relief Factor studios for a Monday, 800-655-MIKE. One number does it all. You can call or text on the MyPillow text line on the same line, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. We've got one or two lines open for you. Let's put your voice front and center here on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike Gallagher.
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Apparently, President Trump was so bored at the Super Bowl that while he was there, he tweeted out that we're going to get rid of producing pennies. purging pennies in order to cut waste. And I thought, well, let me look at liberal media. Let me see what the New York Times is saying about it. Headline, Trump orders Treasury to halt minting new pennies to cut waste. Since taking office, President Trump has set his sights on big targets like Greenland, but he's also taken aim at small ones like paper straws and pennies. Sunday night, Trump said he ordered the Treasury Secretary to stop producing new pennies. Now, during... On his post, Trump himself wrote, let's rip the waste out of our great nation's budget, even if it's a penny at a time. Adding that pennies literally cost us more than two cents. Well, with all due respect, Mr. President, according to the New York Times, you're wrong. It costs 3.69 cents to produce and distribute one penny. according to the 2024 U.S. Mint annual report. That means, accounting for face value, each penny cost the American taxpayer a loss of 2.69 cents. Now remember, I'm reading from the New York Times. Last year, the Mint issued over 3 billion pennies, according to its annual report. Now, why would we not get rid of pennies? Who in the heck cares about keeping pennies when we're wasting millions and millions and millions of dollars on the minting and distribution of pennies? It's the same with USAID, with USAID. I've lost track. Do we say USAID, guys, or is it USAID? It's my poor brain circulation. I am. I'm having some memory issues. Anybody remember what it was? It's AID, right? I mean, I think the colloquial, you say it, abbreviate USAID, but it's really USAID. I got a note from somebody who finds it horrifying, just an absolute abomination that Trump's doge is going in and uncovering all this waste at USAID. And as I said from day one, There are good things that that government agency does. It's not a charity. It was signed into law by an executive order from JFK in the early 60s. It's gotten turned into some bloated, bureaucratic boondoggle. Sesame Street in Iraq and all this other crap. But you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater, as I've said repeatedly. Let's not let people die because they've been counting on food supplies and medicine and other righteous services that that organization provided. I think, as I understand it, Trump's vision is to put it under the auspices of the State Department and keep the life-saving materials and services flowing. And that's as it should be. But... Look, what do the defenders of USAID have to say about all the goofy, crazy things that have been uncovered about it? Do you just ignore it? Nothing to see here? Oh, nothing? Don't pay no attention to funding PBS or the BBC or Politico? No, no, no, no, don't pay attention to that. We're sending food to starving kids. All right, but what about all the other stuff? Does it matter? No, no, no, no, no. It's horrifying, somebody told me this morning. Horrifying that the cruelty of Trump would be to dismantle this agency that I love so much. Oh, really? You love taxpayers being forced to pay for things that the vast majority of taxpayers object to? See, it matters. It's all part of this, and you can't... I am just astounded at the pushback that he's getting on some of these things. All fulfillment of a promise. These are promises he made, and these are promises kept. And it's as if they were hoping he wouldn't fulfill his campaign promises. It's like they wished he wasn't a man of his word. Well, he is. And he's delivering to the American people exactly what they voted for. And as the caller a few minutes ago pointed out, Considering the margin of victory on November 5th, despite everything he was up against, he wins the popular vote, he wins the electoral college, he wins every single swing state. Think about what the margin of victory would have been if the deck hadn't been rigged, stacked against him. If the media, if academia, if Hollywood, if all of the machines weren't Targeting him, the court system, the judicial system, the attorneys general, the Justice Department. If all of that hadn't been aimed at him, what a landslide it would have been. So it's astounding to see where we are as a country. And there's a lot of really good things. Look at this poll that just came out from CBS. I mean, 53%? You would think, with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth that Trump haters are doing right now, that his approval rating would be in the toilet. He should be underwater, right? Not according to CBS News.
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Our CBS poll finds that a majority of Americans, 53 percent, approve of the job he's doing. That's a better approval number than he ever reached during his first term in the White House. Joining us with more is our executive director of elections and surveys, Anthony Salvato. Good to see you, Anthony. What's driving this?
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I will keep it simple, Margaret. He's doing in the eyes of the public what he said he would do in the campaign. There's political value in that. In fact, 70 percent of people say he's doing what he promised. That's whether they approve of him or not. Now, there's another part of this that continues over from the campaign. There were words that he was described as being tough, being energetic. And he still is today in big majority numbers. So as people take a look in these first few weeks, there's been a lot of activity. They're getting that general sense of governance. And that's being reflected in these early numbers.
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So that's perception. What about the actual policies?
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Well, let's start with the ones that are popular. And again, these echo a lot of what we saw in the campaign. The idea of deporting those in the country illegally continues to be popular. We saw that in the campaign. Sending troops to the U.S.-Mexico border, again, majority in favor. We'd seen that in the campaign. For his supporters in particular, the focus on ending DEI is popular. We had seen in the campaign a lot of them thought those processes had gone too far.
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You know how hard that had to be for CBS? CBS. That wasn't Newsmax. That wasn't the Greg Kelly show. That wasn't The Five. That's Margaret Brennan on CBS looking constipated, having to report, oh, wow, the American people robustly approve of what he's doing. So when you have a Trump hater in your life who acts out towards you, Understand, it's the country that they resent. It's not one man. It's not Donald Trump. And looking at the... I love this headline. President Trump booed by the crowd. We ought to... What is the spun? Does anybody know what the spun is? I'm afraid to ask. With my luck, it's like watching a Kanye tweet. With my luck. I mean, it's just... And here's what... Florida just texted me, hey, Mike, how about drunk and delusional at the not-so-Super Bowl? See you on the cruise. Well, it's gaslighting. Does that mean the crowd roaring its approval of Donald Trump was drunk and delusional? Maybe that's how you feel. I hope not, especially if you're going to go on the Alaska cruise with us. We want to get along. I don't want you to push me overboard. Arkansas. Mike, I think it's like those experiments where someone says a word and some people think it's one thing and another thinks it's something entirely different. People hear what they want to hear. Or they're just lying. I wish I knew the answer to it. Again, play the clip 15. This is the moment. The second Trump appears on the Jumbotron during the Star Spangled Banner, when John Batiste is singing this beautiful rendition of our national anthem, and for just a few brief seconds, for just a couple of seconds, they minimized his appearance there. You know that if a Democrat sitting president had made history by attending the Super Bowl, it's all we would have seen.
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Oh, my goodness. Look at this.
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First time a president has ever attended. With Trump, it was just little drips and drips, little bits and pieces, a little tiny few seconds here, a few seconds there. And I'm grateful to the production staff that decided to put Trump on the screen for just three or four seconds during the Star Spangled Banner. resulting in this reaction.
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With broad stripes and bright stars Through the perilous fight O'er the ramparts we watched
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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Super Bowl Sunday is an American tradition. Yesterday I... Planted myself on the couch about 2 or 3 in the afternoon. I enjoy the whole spectacle of the ads and the hype and the analysis. Two great teams, although Kansas City not looking so great last night. And congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles. It's a great story. But for me, there was only one moment that mattered. One moment that filled me with so much hope and optimism and joy at the roaring comeback of Donald Trump. And we're witnessing a real, real renaissance, a real, just a watershed moment in American history. A guy that they tried everything they could to stop every way they could possibly imagine. Sue him. Charge him. Shoot him. Stop him any way you can. And the American people said, nope, not this time around. We're going to put this guy in the Oval Office. And the moment came when the Star Spangled Banner was being performed by singer Jean-Baptiste. And it was a wonderful moment because I had a hunch. I thought, what if they show the committee on the Jumbotron? After all, it was the first time a sitting president has ever attended the Super Bowl, which is kind of crazy when you think about it. And he told Brett Baer in the pre-show interview, I felt it was something that an American president should do. President Trump even admitted, I was surprised to find out no sitting president had ever gone. But I wanted to be there. I wanted to have the American people see the president at the game. So if you're just listening to us right now, when you start hearing the overwhelming cheers and the ovation and the huge groundswell of cheering during the national anthem, it is when it's the moment when they're showing Trump with his hand in a salute. as the Commander-in-Chief during the performance of the National Anthem. This was the moment that, for me, was a glorious, astounding moment.
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With broad stripes and bright stars Through the perilous fight O'er the ramparts we watched
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Hearing that? Hear that? One of my sons excitedly texted me, Dad, did you see that? I said, yep. America does seem to be healing. And incidentally, there was a moment when Taylor Swift was shown on the Jumbotron and she was booed. Now, I don't want to make too much of that. But many believe it's a sign of a real cultural and political shift in the United States of America. That America's supposed sweetheart, the singer, superstar, Taylor Swift, gets booed for a variety of reasons. Very controversial, I would agree, polarizing president gets cheered. Wildly cheering. Football players coming over to shake his hand. A couple of brave members of the Kansas City Chiefs wanting to shake his hand before the game when he was standing on the sideline. And you know why he was on the sidelines, incidentally, before the game? Because he was consoling and greeting family members of those who were killed by that monster on Bourbon Street a few weeks ago on New Year's Eve. So there were just a lot of great moments, and I've been thinking a lot about that moment, that snapshot. I know it's just a snapshot. It's just one thing. But to me, it's a big thing. And I'm wondering what people who hate Trump think of that moment. I'm genuinely interested in how you feel if you are against Donald Trump and his agenda, if you don't like MAGA, if you don't like an America First agenda, if you just don't like the guy. Or J.D. Vance. If you're anti-Trump, what must you be feeling to know that he got this hero's welcome at the Super Bowl? So I want to turn my phones over to those kinds of people for just a few minutes. 1-800-655-MIKE. And we've been kind of, Teresa's been screening calls, because a little while ago I put out this appeal, because I want to spend some time hearing what you're feeling in your heart and in your head. You're against Trump. We get that. Okay? We don't need to argue about it. You feel the way you feel. We feel the way we feel. So be it. I want to know what you're experiencing after you see that clip. Let's start with Warren up in Minnesota. Hey, Warren, thanks very much for joining us today. How are you? Hey, good morning, Mike. How are you? I'm good. So you're against the Trump agenda, correct? You don't like Donald Trump.
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Well, in some ways, yes.
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Okay, so what did you think about him getting the hero's welcome he got at the Superdome?
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I'm so sad that so many people are having their feelings hurt.
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Feelings hurt about what? About him being cheered? Yeah, their feelings are being hoarded. Okay, you're not quite what we're looking for. I'm trying to find, why is this so hard, Teresa? I want to find people who genuinely dislike Trump and what you're thinking in your heart and your head over that kind of ovation. Let's try Calvin in Augusta, Georgia. Hi, Calvin. Welcome to the show. How are you?
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Hey, Mike, how you doing? I'm good. I'm against you. I don't have nothing against you, but when you just go to the White House and tell the White House and you still be recognized as the president, that is not fair to the United States people of America.
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Okay, so you're anti-Trump. What did you think about all the cheering and the ovation and the hero's welcome that he received at the Super Bowl, Calvin?
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Well, I applaud you. You should acknowledge him as the president. But I just know that he's fake and he's not for the poor people. But you should acknowledge him as the president. I'm not against him being the president. I'm just against him because he's a phony and he's like a counterfeit dollar. Okay.
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I'm trying real hard to get you to answer a legitimate question. We get you don't like Trump, and all you're doing is telling us all the things you don't like about Trump. I'm asking what you think about a stadium cheering for him.
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They're applauding him because he is the president?
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Yeah, that's why they have problems.
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So he is the president.
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So you would have done that. You would have cheered for him if you saw him.
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No, I wouldn't cheer for him. I wouldn't cheer for him. Like I said, he's not just for the poor people.
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I know. He's not for the poor people. He's against poor people. Oh, Lord. I came into work so optimistic that we could pull this off. I'm trying so hard here. You can't fault me for trying, okay? I am trying. And Teresa even had time to screen. I said, Teresa, let's find people who don't like Trump who want to explain how they're feeling, how they're reacting to the way he was received at the Super Bowl. Let me try Robbie in Laurel, Florida. Hi, Robbie. How's it going?
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Oh, not bad, Mr. Gallagher. My biggest pet peeve against the press right now is pinching the penny from production. What the heck is wrong with this guy? Do you want to know what it costs? It goes down to the penny. Why are we going to take the penny?
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Hey, Robbie, can you hear my voice?
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Can you hear me?
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I can hear you now, yes. Okay, you can hear me now. Do you know what it costs to produce a penny, Robbie, even though you've changed the subject and you're not the caller that I'm looking for?
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I'm going to answer another question, too. I'm asking you if you know what it costs. I'm going to answer another question, too. Do you know what it costs to produce a penny? Three and a half cents or three and a half dollars? Three point... $3.50. Please go away. Why are we getting all the kooks? Is this so hard? I mean, look, I'm pretty good at this. I'm a pretty skilled talk show host. I can't find somebody that doesn't sound like a babbling idiot?
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My goodness! Why is this so hard? Give me your take. If you don't like Trump, what are you thinking about the hero's welcome he got? I'm going to try two or three more, and if you sound like a... Nut job? I'll move on, okay? Let me try Mike in Michigan.
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Oh, my goodness. Hello, Mike. How are you?
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I'm fine. How are you, buddy? Good. Do you hate Trump? I do. I felt sorry for the guy that was turning the mask on.
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Can you talk into your mouthpiece? We can't hear you because you sound muffled. Please. I felt real sorry for the guy that was singing the national anthem. You felt bad for the guy singing the anthem because people cheered for Trump when he was singing? Yep. All right, what do you think about all the people who cheered for Trump during the anthem? I thought it was crazy. Crazy? So it was mass psychosis? Yep. They're all crazy? Yep. Okay, that was good. That was a really good exchange. Thank you, Mike. Honest to gosh, I may keep going on this because I'm going to find somebody who I can have a normal conversation with. I don't know what it's going to take, but I'm just on a mission here. I'm like the Blues Brothers. I'm on a mission from God. I'm going to find somebody who's opposed to Donald Trump who will tell me how you feel about in recognizing the heroic or the hero's welcome he got, the ovation, the cheering. This is unbelievable.
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I can't even get people to talk into their phone. Yeah, Mike, it's a penny. It's a penny. Hey, what's wrong with this guy? It's a penny. It's $3 to make a penny.
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Oh, boy. Is it my vacation time yet? Can I go somewhere? Isn't there a beach somewhere with my name on it? We're going to try one more segment, and then we will get into more. But I think this matters. I really want to know. Are you feeling remorseful that maybe you've been wrong all along about this guy? Maybe you're wrong about MAGA? Maybe Americans do favor what he's doing? Could that be the case? I just want to know. I'm trying hard. 800-655-MIKE.
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Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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They're mad at the country. And that's what we've got to remember. I shared with you a personal note this morning about a longtime friend of mine who wants to sever, I guess, an aspect of our relationship because for this particular friend, gutting U.S. aid is a bridge too far. What? What?
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That's the straw that breaks the camel's back of the friendship is the USAID funding cut? Bloat. The bloat of USAID. The fraud.
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The corruption. Well, but I've said over and over again. It's an organization that has done a world of good. We can't ignore that. I use the phrase, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Make sure that the life-saving aid provided by this non-charity, remember, it's not a charity. It's a government agency. You've got to sustain that. You've got to keep that going. Nonetheless, for this particular years-long friend of mine, that's it. We're on two different sides. We're pulling.
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So what? So what?
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I know we're on different sides. I know. Hasn't he known that for years? Hasn't everybody who's fractured a relationship or a family? Haven't they been aware of this? And I mentioned the audience this morning. I'm noticing fresh waves of this. The election started it and then everybody kind of got over it. OK, you won. But now that Trump is in office and has been for three weeks today, right, they're noticing him actually doing things that everything that you and I love, the other side hates. That's kind of baked in. But some people hate it so much that they've decided to destroy the love that they have for friends and family members. It is starting again.
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It is starting again, and it's profoundly sad. And I would point out, I hate the whataboutism, but the time that we could have done it to them was when leftists were burning down American cities over George Floyd, and they cheered it on. And you know what? We didn't say to them, well, you're dead to me. I'm done. We didn't do that to them. We typically don't do that.
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And we could we could go to liberal because Mike, you and I are both proud to have liberal friends, occasional liberal family member. You know how easy it would be for us to get up in their face and say, you're OK with the killing of babies. You're OK with waves of illegal immigrants. You're OK with girls playing in boys, boys playing in girls sports. You favor those things. You are out of my life. You know how easy that would be. We don't do it because we know that's not what you do as a human being.
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You said earlier that it's so sad to see people fracture friendships and family over this. It's profound. Look, I admit after I got this note from this year's long friend of mine, I'm not ashamed to admit it. I had a good cry. I don't like losing good people from my life. But I also, because I know that I'm drawn to people who... who disagree with me. I like having people who disagree with me in my life. I like robust debate. I like learning from them and where they're coming from. That's important to me. And this is not the only one. And I think I'm a little unusual from maybe you. I'm going to go a little out on a limb here. You say we all have liberal friends. I suspect I have more than maybe most or more than you do. I think I have a lot more. Theater stuff and people I know that are just in a different universe from most sort of ordinary conservatives. And a lot of these people I find wonderful. They're kind in many cases. They're loving. In fact, the friend who really... hurt me with this email today is somebody who's always reached out to me over the holidays because he knows I lost my parents at Christmas and knows about my loss of Denise and is kind. He's a good man. He's a good dad. He's a good father. He's a good husband. But they just, you said it, Mark, it breaks them. It makes this hatred, they become completely irrational, it seems to me, and to a point where I hate to be mean here, but you say it. Hatred makes smart people kind of dumb and makes nice people kind of mean. They just turn into something that they're not, and it does break my heart on so many levels. But, hey, so be it. I hope that time will heal. Look, let's look at what Trump is, and again, for the record. Just because this is fresh in my mind. I don't want the good things that USAID has done thrown out the window. Hopefully Marco Rubio and the State Department will sustain it. We'll make sure that kids don't die. We don't want people to die. We don't want people to starve. But the bloat and the profound mismanagement of taxpayer dollars cannot be ignored. And I'm sick of us trying to protect it.
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Of course that's what they're doing. Byron Donalds was on Real Time with Maher and did a great job of explaining this. This is so profound, and the government is so bloated, sometimes you've just got to go in and hit a massive pause button and then start from scratch and then see, okay, what should we be doing and what should we not? Mark, look at the penny story.
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Can I give you some fake news? Yeah. And I have to blame President Trump a little bit for this. He gave a little bit of fake news. He said it cost two cents. to produce one penny he was wrong you want to know what the real number is according to the new york times according to axios the actual cost according to the u.s treasury in 20 in fiscal year 2024 3.69 cents it costs almost four times a penny to produce a penny now by the way that's stupid So why in the world do – oh, and now you're mad? We've got to – he's taking on things large and small. He's taking – you know what's next? The Pentagon. He's going to look at the department. He's going to get rid of the Department of Education. You know what? That's why the Super Bowl stadium cheered yesterday. Thank God he won.
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The change is real. Thank God he won.
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Thank God he won. And you know what? We're going to get through all this. We are. And we're going to have moments where we're frustrated and we're sad, but so be it.
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And it's okay. It's okay. And let me take a minute with the folks watching on the stream and the folks who will watch sometimes the replay that you do. If there's angst and if there's ill will and blah, blah, blah. Let me offer something, if I may, to the Mike Gallagher audience as well as my own to make everybody feel great. Something that can truly unify if anything can truly unify. And that's a trip you and I have made. One of my favorite trips for food for the poor. You went with me to Guatemala. It was magnificent to be with you. And we are taking a look at people in our hemisphere. Some poverty like America will never see. We should help people in our own country, of course. But a one-time gift of $100 at Food for the Poor will feed two kids for a year. So if I can ask everybody listening to both our shows to go to 660amtheanswer.com, click the Give Life banner. And if you don't have $100, you got $20, we'll take it. and we appreciate it so much. And you can do it at 660ameanswer.com and click that Give Life banner or on the phone number 855-916-HOPE, 855-916-HOPE. Thank you guys all so very, very much for helping us out and helping the truly needy in our hemisphere.
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And to those who say that we conservatives are cold and cruel and we don't want to get... Here's a perfect example of why they're wrong. You know, there's a perfect example of how hard you and I work for organizations like Food for the Poor. And I am so proud to stand with you And I hope everybody listening today will go to 660amtheanswer.com and make a donation. And let's keep, hey, fighting the good fight.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's M&M experience.
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They're mad at the country. And that's what we've got to remember. I shared with you a personal note this morning about a longtime friend of mine who wants to sever, I guess, an aspect of our relationship because for this particular friend, gutting U.S. aid is a bridge too far.
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And I'm thinking that's the hill you want to – that's the straw that breaks the camel's back of the friendship is the USAID funding cut? Bloat.
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The bloat of USAID.
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The fraud.
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As I've said – well, but I've said over and over again that's an organization that has done a world of good. Yes. we can't ignore that i use the phrase don't throw the baby out with the bath water make sure that the life-saving aid provided by this non-charity remember it's not a charity there's a government agency you got to sustain that you got to keep that going nonetheless for this particular years-long friend of mine that's it uh we're on two different sides we're we're pulling and you know i
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I know. Hasn't he known that for years? Hasn't everybody who's fractured a relationship or a family, haven't they been aware of this? And I mentioned to the audience this morning, I'm noticing fresh waves of this. The election started it, and then everybody kind of got over it. Okay, he won. But now that Trump is in office and has been for three weeks today, right, they're noticing him actually doing things that everything that you and I love, the other side hates. That's kind of baked in. But some people hate it so much they've decided to destroy the love that they have for friends and family members. It is starting again.
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It is starting again, and it's profoundly sad. And I would point out, I hate the whataboutism, but the time that we could have done it to them was when leftists were burning down American cities over George Floyd, and they cheered it on. And you know what? We didn't say to them, well, you're dead to me. I'm done. We didn't do that to them. We typically don't do that to them.
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No, we don't, and we could. We could go to front. Because, Mike, you and I are both... Proud to have liberal friends, occasional liberal family member. You know how easy it would be for us to get up in their face and say, you're OK with the killing of babies. You're OK with waves of illegal immigrants. You're OK with girls playing in boys, boys playing in girls sports. You favor those things. You are out of my life. You know how easy that would be? We don't do it because we know that's not what you do as a human being.
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You said earlier that it's so sad to see people fracture friendships and family over this. It's profound. Look, I admit after I got this note from this year's long friend of mine, I'm not ashamed to admit it. I had a good cry. I don't like losing good people from my life. But I also, because I know that I'm drawn to people who disagree with me. I like having people who disagree with me in my life. I like robust debate. I like learning from them and where they're coming from. That's important to me. And this is not the only one. I've had a few. And I think I'm a little unusual from maybe you. I'm going to go a little out on a limb here. You say we all have liberal friends. I think, I suspect I have more than maybe most or more than you do. I think I have a lot of people. Theater stuff and people I know that are just in a different universe from most sort of ordinary conservatives. And a lot of these people I find wonderful. They're kind in many cases. They're loving. In fact, a friend who really... hurt me with this email today is somebody who's always reached out to me over the holidays because he knows i lost my parents at christmas and knows about my my loss of denise and was is kind he's a good man he's a good dad he's a good father he's a good husband but they just you said it mark it breaks them it makes this this hatred they become complacent completely irrational it seems to me and to a point where i i hate to be mean here but you say it it makes smart hatred makes smart people kind of dumb and makes nice people kind of mean they they just turn into something that they're not and it it it does it does break my heart on so many levels but hey so be it i i hope that time will heal Look, let's look at what Trump is... And again, for the record, just because this is fresh in my mind, I don't want the good things that USAID has done thrown out the window. Hopefully, Marco Rubio and the State Department will sustain it. We'll make sure the kids don't die. We don't want people to die. We don't want people to starve. But the bloat and the profound mismanagement of taxpayer dollars cannot be ignored. And I'm sick of us trying to pretend... Of course that's what they're doing.
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Byron Donalds was on Real Time with Mar and did a great job of explaining this. This is so profound, and the government is so bloated, sometimes you've just got to go in and hit a massive pause button and then start from scratch and then see, okay, what should we be doing and what should we not?
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Mark, look at the penny story. Can I give you some fake news? And I have to blame President Trump for a little bit of this. He gave a little bit of fake news. He said it cost two cents to produce one penny. He was wrong. You want to know what the real number is? According to the New York Times, according to Axios, the actual cost, according to the U.S. Treasury, in fiscal year 2024, 3.69 cents. He undercut it.
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It costs almost four times a penny to produce a penny. Now, by the way, that's stupid.
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So why in the world do it? Oh, and now you're mad? He's taking on things large and small. You know what's next? The Pentagon. He's going to look at the department. He's going to get rid of the Department of Education. You know what? That's why the Super Bowl stadium cheered yesterday. The change is real.
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Thank God he won.
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The change is real.
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Thank God he won. Thank God he won.
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And you know what? We're going to get through all this. We are. And we're going to have moments where we're frustrated and we're sad, but so be it.
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And let me take a minute with the folks watching on the stream and the folks who watch sometimes the replay that you do. If there's angst and if there's ill will and blah, blah, blah, let me offer something, if I may, to the Mike Gallagher audience as well as my own. to make everybody feel great, something that can truly unify, if anything can truly unify. And that's a trip you and I have made, one of my favorite trips for Food for the Poor. You went with me to Guatemala. It was magnificent to be with you. And we are taking a look at people in our hemisphere. Some poverty like America we'll never see. We should help people in our own country, of course. But a one-time gift of $100 at Food for the Poor will feed two kids for a year. So if I can ask everybody listening to both our shows to go to 660ameanswer.com, click the Give Life banner. And if you don't have $100, you got $20, we'll take it. And we appreciate it so much. And you can do it at 660ameanswer.com and click that Give Life banner or the phone number 855-916-HOPE, 855-916-HOPE. Thank you guys all so very, very much for helping us out and helping the truly needy in our hemisphere.
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And to those who say that we conservatives are cold and cruel and we don't want to get, here's a perfect example of why they're wrong. You know, there's a perfect example of how hard you and I work for organizations like Food for the Poor. And I am so proud to stand with you. And I hope everybody listening today will go to 660amtheanswer.com and make a donation. And let's keep, hey, fighting the good fight. Good fight.
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In this eye-opening episode, we dive deep into the recent Super Bowl interview with Attorney General Pam Bondi, wherein she discusses the implications of internal leaks within the FBI related to ICE operations. The accusations suggest insiders are tipping off raids and thwarting government efforts to apprehend criminals. Our hosts offer an in-depth analysis of how these leaks could endanger national safety and discuss the legal ramifications of such breaches.
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During a Super Bowl interview, Attorney General Pam Bondi puts FBI leakers on notice.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow. Our phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. You may want to chime in once you hear some of this news that came out yesterday as Pam Bondi, Attorney General of the United States, was interviewed outside of the Super Bowl, which I'm sure a lot of you were watching, and made a claim that looks like it may be true because during certain ICE raids... It seemed like somehow the people they were looking for were informed. And of course, how could that have happened? Well, there are some theories going around, Will, and the theory from Attorney General Bondi, of course, indicates that it's coming from the inside.
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That's right. And Secretary Noem of DHS actually tweeted before this interview, "...the FBI is so corrupt, we will work with any and every agency to stop leaks and prosecute these crooked, deep state agents to the fullest extent of the law." Yeah, Pam Bondi responded. Right, and we have that clip we can play here, and that is Pam Bondi, Byte 8, during an interview outside of the Caesars Superdome in New Orleans. Let's go ahead and run it.
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If anyone leaks anything, people don't understand that jeopardizes the lives of our great men and women in law enforcement. And if you leaked it, we will find out who you are and we will come after you. And it's not going to stop our mission. It's not going to stop the president's mission to make America safe again. We were very clear with the lawsuit that we filed in Chicago that if you don't follow the law, you will be prosecuted by the Department of Justice.
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Yes, I mean, couldn't be clearer, but it is another one of those moments where we see what's actually going on on the inside. That's why we got to make sure that we are not losing sight of everything that's happening. Just because you have a new administration in town doesn't mean everything gets done rapidly, quickly, and you have staff that needs to be replaced. Because if you do have people on the inside, sure, you have Attorney General Bondi saying that we're going to come after whoever leaked this information. But the fact that you even have a department which is full of people ready to leak this information, or even a few people, or one person, ready to leak this information, shows sort of the root of the problem.
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And when you think about what information is leaked, and this mainly goes to a massive ICE raid slash operation that they were planning for the Los Angeles area, as well as Tom Holman also referenced it, one in Colorado, where we know that Trend de Aragua was also setting up shop, that these memos were leaked online. That were supposed to be internal government, cross-departmental, that talked about the actions they were about to take. This information is leaked and it gives the criminal migrants the ability to prepare, to leave, to thwart this action, this enforcement action by the Department of Homeland Security. And when you think about the concept that this isn't some... low-level policy shift within an administration. This is potentially someone leaking something about governmental action on criminal gang activity within our country with the proposed motive of stopping that or slowing it down. That is the complete opposite of what the mission of the FBI is supposed to be. They're supposed to be keeping us safe, upholding the law. And if they are trying to thwart activity from the Department of Homeland Security, that is frightening. Yeah. When you hear this, what do you think?
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Are you shocked by it? I unfortunately don't seem to be that shocked by it. It seems like this is what would have happened. And what do you think needs to be done? Give us a call. I'd love to hear your feedback, your thoughts. We could pass those along. 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. Again, the deep state feels like they're always leaking information and once again been accused of it. And that's exactly what we warned you about. This happened a lot in the first term, President Trump. And now it's going to come out again to try to undermine the plans of this administration. We've even seen sort of the pushback on Doge and a lot of the things that have happened and It's happening again, and we're fighting back in court. So we need your help, because again, it's not over just because you have a more friendly administration. It's not over because you see the president getting cheered at the Super Bowl. We have 25 lawsuits right now, nearly 25 lawsuits against the deep state. We're taking on the FBI still. We need your help. Go to ACLJ.org and donate now. Do it today. Do it right now. Your dollars will have a direct impact in pushing forward the agenda that we need pushed through our efforts. Right now, ACLJ.org. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. I'm going to take your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110, 1-800-684-3110. When you hear about this, Will, and I think we need to reset a little bit because I'm looking at the numbers right now on YouTube. A lot of people just are joining us right now. If you are brand new to our show or you haven't hit that subscribe button, I'm going to encourage you to do it right now because over 464,000 of you have. Let's get that to 465 today. That would be great. So if you haven't, hit that subscribe button. If you already have, hit the thumbs up. Throw us a comment. If you're watching on Rumble, you can do the same. If you're watching on Facebook X, you know what to do. You can get involved, share it with your friends, repost, do whatever you need to do. And last, if you're watching on the Salem News Channel, welcome. We're live there now as of beginning of the year. So a lot of great people coming in from that way. But well, before we give the question to the audience, let's restate what happened. This happened over the weekend. Obviously, ICE has been in full force going and getting a lot of really criminals off the streets and locating a lot of children that have gone missing. You've seen some of that where they've located so many tens of thousands in just the first few days that now they have a moment where they go in for a big raid, if you will.
SPEAKER 08 :
And clearly they got tipped off. That's right. And this doesn't seem like it's an isolated event at this point with Tom Homan, who is the border czar, talking about some of the activity in Colorado being a little bit thwarted by what appeared to be some leaks about the operations there. Maybe it was some sort of intel given over to the bad actors there. But late last week, the Los Angeles Times posted an article saying leaked document says, quote, large scale immigration enforcement action coming soon to L.A., And Kristi Noem replied to that post by the LA Times just yesterday saying, the FBI is so corrupt. We will work with any and every agency to stop leaks and prosecute these crooked deep state agents to the fullest extent of the law. Then you have a Super Bowl interview with Pam Bondi where she has asked about this. And the context, once again, is someone within the government is leaking intel to bad actors, criminal migrants, gang members in some of the largest cities in the country that, hey, guess what? They're coming for you. Maybe plan appropriately. But here's what Pam Bondi, the new attorney general, as of last Wednesday, had to say about this on Fox before the Super Bowl last night by date.
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If anyone leaks anything, people don't understand that jeopardizes the lives of our great men and women in law enforcement. And if you leaked it, we will find out who you are and we will come after you. And it's not going to stop our mission. It's not going to stop the president's mission to make America safe again. We were very clear with the lawsuit that we filed in Chicago that if you don't follow the law, you will be prosecuted by the Department of Justice.
SPEAKER 09 :
Very refreshing take to hear. And if you have your feedback, I want to hear from you. Do you think these people who are going to hopefully be found who are leaking this information, do you think they should be fired? Do you think they should be prosecuted? What do you think should happen to them? Because sometimes it's, hey, fire them, clean house, let's move on. Let's not waste our time and waste our money and energy in trying to get these people thrown in jail or anything like that or fined. Sometimes it's better just to clean house and move on. But I'd love to hear your thoughts. 1-800-684-3110. At the same time, you can support the work of the ACLJ as we try to continue our fight against, really, they say the deep state, and the deep state always feels like a fictional term. But, Will, more and more,
SPEAKER 08 :
It seems to be reality. That's right. And I think another angle that we need to bring into this is the importance of whistleblowers. Under the previous administration, if you were a whistleblower and you spoke out against what we would consider now, if these actions were happening, deep state activities. But when it was the administration, when it was Biden's administration, the bureaucrats and the agency bad actors felt like they had free reign to continue down that path. They were retaliated against by the federal government. and so there was a chilling effect on whistleblowers over the last four years and really making those potential whistleblowers afraid to come forward because they were afraid of losing their security clearance losing their job being put in in this purgatory where they're not getting paid but they're not fired so they can't move on with their life and get another job they can't provide for their family and at the aclj over these last four years we have fought for whistleblowers and won for whistleblowers But we even now, we have a case that was just transferred. This is the O'Boyle case. You remember this case where he was reassigned halfway across the country. They started moving him out there. The FBI was transporting his personal property. They put him on administrative leave in the middle of that without pay and effectively held his own possessions, his children's clothing, his clothing, their furniture. because it was held by the FBI, he couldn't even get that back. So he was made homeless in this process. We just had that case where we were fighting through the administrative process. It has now been officially transferred to federal court. So the D.C. Court of Appeals, that is now the place where this case lives. We fought for that back at the end of last year. It's officially moved over. And once that completes the processing of the case, we anticipate that they'll issue a scheduling order informing the parties of deadlines to file in the next rounds of brief, etc. But the importance of us fighting and getting justice for those whistleblowers. is so much important now because if there's a potential whistleblower it's like i maybe know who leaked this or i may know where this is going they may be terrified by being a whistleblower that they could get in the same situation the biden administration did over the last four years to whistleblowers trying to blow the whistle on bad actions but this isn't just we think the policy is bad about targeting parents at school board meetings which is egregious constitutional violations but this is the members of the FBI leaking internal documents from a different agency on criminal enforcement of the law against these groups that have gotten in here their gangs wreaking havoc across the country that is just so shocking to think about
SPEAKER 09 :
they've got to get to the bottom of it and the whistleblowers have to feel comfortable to come forward and that's why we fight for them absolutely if you've been trying to call in a couple lines just cleared up we're going through them right now so 1-800-684-3110 keep calling a lot of you have called in already we're trying to get through everybody's you know just be patient if it rings let it ring stay on hold we're going to get to you let's go ahead and take a call about this i do see some comments coming in about updates about tulsi gabbard we're going to talk about that in the next segment as well as updates of kash patel And we're going to discuss a lot more. So you want to stay tuned. It's not just going to be focused on this exclusively because there also is a fight in Israel. And it took not necessarily a great turn over the last couple of days. And even right before we went on air, there was some troubling news. So we're going to be covering that in just a moment. Let's continue on and take a phone call. Let's go to Charles, who's calling in Georgia on line one. Listening on the radio, Charles, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, thanks for taking my call. I was just wondering. Are they going to have to file lawsuits everywhere in order to get the courts to approve their ability to arrest people? I mean, when are they going to start arresting people? I thought when people broke the law or they were obstructing, you know, they could just be arrested.
SPEAKER 09 :
Are you asking about, are you talking about people within the government? Are you talking about things on these raids and such?
SPEAKER 13 :
Mayors and, you know, anybody in the government that's trying to obstruct it. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think there's a several pronged answer to that, Charles. I mean, one, many times when it is a government official, like a mayor or a governor, the way that is handled is through filing a federal lawsuit, stopping their law, because it's like a conflict of supremacy clause, not necessarily them going with a criminal action against the governor. Yeah, they're not going around and rounding people up. But when you also talk about what's going on within the government, if there is a criminal leak of information, those people do face charges. You've seen that even in previous administrations where someone within the FBI or a CIA agent or someone either leaks something or they change a document to try to get what they want and then it gets exposed. Many times that does end up in prosecution of those people. It could be. So it could be a loss of income. The other thing you have to remember here too, Logan, is that once again, we've got the attorney general in. There are many confirmed deputies at the Department of Justice, which have not been confirmed yet. So it's still not a full team of Pam Bondi's own making and the president's own appointing. But then also, Kash Patel. We're going to talk about what that timeline is. But remember, the FBI director... is not in place yet. And we need that to happen as well so that he can start to clean house within that entire agency. And hopefully when we talk about it in the next segment, we'll see some movement on that very soon.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. Let's continue on. Let's take a very quick call right before we go to break. Keep calling because we're opening up lines as we do this. Tom's calling on line two. Tom, what are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 03 :
You mentioned whether the FBI agents should be put into jail. I don't know if they should be put in jail or fine, like you said, but why doesn't somebody of stature like Pam Bondi suggest that maybe they'll be treated like the J6 prisoners?
SPEAKER 09 :
That's a good point. I mean, look, she kind of did. She didn't say those words specifically, but she said, what was the exact quote of where we are going to come after you?
SPEAKER 08 :
You will be prosecuted by the Department of Justice.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, yeah, I think that, Tom, maybe you're right. Maybe there should be some of that. But you don't want also people you think were unjustly prosecuted or prosecuted too far to use that as an example. Because then you just start having the same conversation over and over again. But I get your point. We got two lines open, 1-800-684-3110. If you want to support the work of the ACLJ as we fight on and continue on all of these battles, and look, the deep state battles we thought we were over with, no, of course not. It was just because the last four years it wasn't deep state. It was front state, main state. Now it's back to subverting the plans of the current administration, and of course for your conservative and a lot of your Christian values. So you need to help support the work of the ACLJ. Donate now. Your dollars will have a direct impact. through our efforts. We really appreciate it. Your support is crucial. Welcome back to Secular. We're going to continue taking your calls because a lot of you are calling in. Stay on hold. 1-800-684-3110. Well, I do think we should give a quick update. A lot of you are just joining. If you're just joining us, we'll restate what the topic is in just a moment. But I do see a lot of comments coming in asking about the current state of Tulsi Gabbard.
SPEAKER 08 :
Kash Patel and where things stand and some talk on Israel as well so let's start with Tulsi and today we will see at least the next step in the process of getting her confirmed that's right and I won't go over the all the laborious details that I have before but effectively tonight there's a first procedural vote on Tulsi Gabbard's nomination because right now when you invoke out of committee right She's now before the Senate, but because of that, they can debate a nominee, and that is them filibustering. So what they can do, though, is file the cloture vote, which tonight is supposed to take place around 5.30 p.m. Eastern time. That will be trying to get to that 60-vote threshold to move on to the full vote. Basically, it ends debate on the nominee, and they have a 30-hour clock once you invoke cloture to then say whatever you want to say for the final 30 hours unless Democrats decide, let's just get it over with. They probably won't. They like running out the clock right now. But so 5.30 p.m. Eastern, that vote, if she passes that procedural hurdle... Do they have the vote to filibuster? Do they have enough... Well, we'll see. We kind of don't know. And it depends on how badly the Democrats want to stonewall things and try to stop it. There are other procedural tactics they can take and they can keep going. But there's no doubt that once it gets to that floor vote. they believe especially with the ones out of the intel committee that then changed their votes that she should be confirmed pretty easily on the floor of the senate once we get to that but that starts tonight at around 5 30 p.m for that cloture vote
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, so that's a good update on Tulsi. And if that goes through, then it could be what? By the end of the week, there could be her regular confirmation vote.
SPEAKER 08 :
If she clears that tonight, they could vote as early as late tomorrow night on Tuesday or early Wednesday morning for the full confirmation. And then as soon as they are done with Tulsi's nomination or confirmation, they're going to move on to RFK Jr., OK, so that should happen very soon as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then sort of the one hanging out there right now is Kash Patel, because that was the one they were able to push and delay. Now, the odds and you were telling me even the betting odds were that he was going to clear this. No problem. But it seems like they we all thought it was going to happen to Tulsi, but it seems like they've pushed. cashes that's the one they were able to figure out how to delay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that is because democrats are trying to delay the president having his full slate of cabinet or cabinet adjacent or governmental leads within these departments and so the hearing for Kash Patel was the same day as Tulsi Gabbard's and he was there for I believe like five hours answering questions Democrats tried to force a second hearing on Kash Patel. Senator Grassley did not abide that and said, no, I think he's done a really good job. We're going to move forward. They use some rules within the committee on the judiciary to delay it a week. So while Tulsi and RFK Jr. got their votes, even though it was the same timing last week, they used some rules and procedures to get it delayed a week. But now it looks like they have set up a vote on Thursday to vote him out of committee. So as soon as they vote him out of committee, then you get transferred to the full Senate and you have a very similar process. It'll probably take a few days to a week to get that teed up. So we're looking at next week, if he has a successful vote, moving to the full Senate and then them getting him confirmed into that position of FBI director, which I think is very important that we have a new FBI director. Yeah. when you're seeing potential leaks out of that agency.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, let's restate that, because so many of you are joining us right now, and if you've already heard this, apologies, but you know what? I want to take some calls about this, and I want to make sure we set it up properly. A lot of this happened over the weekend. You had Kristi Noem out there saying, hey, it looks like when we're doing these ICE raids... that certain information is getting to people, that it's leaking out, and we think it may be leaking specifically from the inside. We think there are people within ICE saying, hey, this is coming, or within the government somewhere, saying this is coming and letting people, again, as Will said, a lot of them are not good people. These are drug dealers, murderers. Right now, that's what they're mainly focusing on. The criminals, and the criminals are able to get free and move forward because there are people on the inside saying, doing this, allegedly. Pam Bondi responded, our Attorney General, Pam Bondi, she said, hey, if we find this out, we're going after people. When we know who it's going to be and we will find you, we will get you. And I posed a question to you at the audience and what do you want that to look like? Do you want them to be arrested? Do you want them to be fined? Do you want them to be fired? What level are you running this to go to? Because look, I think a lot of us see what's going on even in the federal prison system. And I'm not really a big fan of a lot of the things that they do and the way they treat people and the people who are not in there justly. Or it seems like the scale is not balanced. you can have violent criminals who uh have attacked our police have have done so many things have and then you have and they're in jail for a couple days and then you have people who you know unknowingly took some bad advice from a tax attorney and then all of a sudden they're in jail for 50 years uh i i don't feel it's a very fair system so let's take some calls about that let's first go to brian who's calling in missouri on line six brian you're on the air how you guys doing today We're good, Brian. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, I just think that they should be prosecuted to the full extent and take away all of their funds. Take away the things that they've gained by being corrupt and treat them like they've treated
SPEAKER 09 :
our president and do the things to them what they've done to him and the rest of the people that are out there they're sitting in jail right now yeah brian i understand you feel that way and i'm sure that there are people who feel similarly to you uh what's interesting is i'd be very curious as you said was there financial gain for any of this was this someone getting paid off or or some situation or is this the person thinking they're the hero You know, thinking they are the just, you know, the V for Vendetta moment where they are taking over the government and subverting it for the greater good. It's interesting because I'm sure... They could be made into heroes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I think, once again, if they get out of this, are they going to become like Andy McCabe, who has made a name for himself on CNN for the left? But the problem here, and I agree, Brian, when you look back at even the first Trump administration, The organization of the government from the get-go was hampered, one, by the Mueller investigation, but two, by Trump not being a politician, not knowing who to put in. Some of the cabinet level picks were not great, took some bad advice. As you can tell within this first almost month of his presidency, which has already felt like four years because of how much has gotten done, I think that you can tell that the people are more serious about the rhetoric of holding people to account than we saw in the first administration.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think last time you saw a lot of Washington, D.C. You saw a lot more of those, as you'd say, quote unquote, swampy people put in those positions because they, and they were running things like this was a normal presidency. where you could delay, you could take your time, you could be slow, stuff never gets done. They were full-blown federal government. But now you have a group of people who that is not their usual play, and they are moving fast. And I think to prove that point. Look, we got a second half hour coming up on this show. First half hour blew by. If you are on hold right now, Bill, Tony, Dimitro, Gary, Sandy, and there's one ringing right now. We're going to get to you. Just stay on hold. We'll do our best to get to you in this second half hour. We're also going to talk a little about Israel, what's going on over there, as well as give you updates on Tulsi Gabbard as she has a vote tonight. Again, if you're watching online, don't go anywhere. We've got another half hour and a very short break. If you're listening on the radio and you don't get us for the full hour or you have to leave us right now, go to ACLJ.org. You can also listen later on. anytime on aclj.org on youtube rumble however you find us but this is a great time to support our work you're going to hear from cc hyle coming up about how we're getting involved as well go to once again aclj.org right now your support is crucial and it's critical and your dollars have a direct impact through our efforts keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo
SPEAKER 12 :
And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome to the second half hour of Sekulow. If you're joining us online right now, I'm going to ask you to share this however you can with your friends. And a good way to do that on YouTube is just hitting the subscribe button, the thumbs up, and throwing in a comment. If you're on Facebook, on X, or Rumble, you can share it. Share that link. It really does help get the word out there. And more people get to hear about the messages that we push out here at the ACLJ. You can also do that by just going to ACLJ.org and supporting our work. We got a full bank of phone calls right now. Oh, no. Yeah, right now. It's full right now. But we'll do our best to get to as many as we can in this next half hour. So stay tuned. CeCe Heil is going to be joining us. Will Haynes is in studio with me right now. And let's restate a little bit of what's going on just so you have an update. As the few topics that we've talked about today, which was one that Attorney General Pam Bondi spoke at the Super Bowl, and talked about the leaks that are coming out, potentially, as Kristi Noem said, coming out from ICE and from inside the government, tipping off some of these raids so they cannot be successful, and how they will prosecute, they will find them, and they will take care of them very quickly. Of course, a very different rhetoric coming out of this administration. Phone lines, like I said, are open at 1-800-684-3110. I also wanted to give you an update on Tulsi Gabbard. Tonight, there will be a new vote. This will be the vote, as Will said, to end the discussion, really to end any option of a filibuster, to move forward to a full vote, which could happen even as early. They believe it will get passed tonight. though it's pretty, you know, you never know. But they think that it will take many hours. And then as early as tomorrow, but more than likely maybe Wednesday, we will see that full vote. And maybe you'll have a new director of national intelligence, you know, secular alumni, Tulsi Gabbard. That's what we're hoping for. That's what we're praying for. And we'll see what happens there. There's also the confirmation hearings of RFK and of Kash Patel. And I didn't want to forget what's happening in Israel. As you saw the hostages that were released this weekend, the one that was released, um, was horrifying to see a man who had been through it and was gaunt and, uh, you know, was able to make a speech. And in his speech, it was really hard for me to watch it, to be honest, um, talked about how he looked forward to returning to his family, to his wife and daughters, uh, unknowingly, uh, that his wife and daughter had been murdered, uh, In the October 7th attack. So I can't imagine as a husband and a dad, that is probably what was in your back of your mind to keep you going for these last 500 plus days. And now to get free and to realize that not only are you alive, but you're having to deal with the fact that your family is gone. It was crushing. It was really, really horrible to see. And then you have Hamas today saying, we believe Israel has violated the ceasefire. So no more hostages being released. So we're thankful that a few did get out. And who knows how many are left? Because when you see the conditions, I'm sure what they put out, I'm not sure, but you can only kind of guess that the first ones they put out were the ones that are going to look the healthiest, are going to look like the ones that were taking care of the best. And then all of a sudden you have the one over the weekend and it's just shockingly bad. It's really sad. I hope more can get released. I hope, you know, it's weird to say I hope Hamas changes their mind, but it's more the reality of war that's happening.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. And even President Trump said, we are losing patience with the speed of Hamas on this. This was before them putting a pause on releasing more. But he even said that the hostages, they look so terrible. They look like Holocaust survivors, which in many ways they are. They survived the most deadly massacring of Jews since the Holocaust on October 7th. But it is tragic when you see that they have they have released the ones that they were able to start feeding and give medicine and make look more tv ready for their little press conference and propaganda and as people uh start to put that out of their mind maybe of like okay they're releasing hostages and not looking at those propaganda pieces as much you start to see the condition of those that are still alive and you pray that more are still alive But many times Hamas uses a time like this to say Israel violated it no more because they actually don't have the bargaining chip anymore.
SPEAKER 09 :
We're going to talk about that coming up with C.C. Heil in the next segment, talk about how the ACLJ is involved on a global level to support the state of Israel and, of course, to support the American government's support of the state of Israel, which is nice to see a change. We are going to take your calls as well at 1-800-684-3110. This is another short break. Stay tuned. Don't go anywhere. And if you're watching on YouTube right now and you're brand new, hit the subscribe button. We'd appreciate it. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secula. We are going to continue a discussion in the next segments about the ICE raids and sort of the tip-offs that were going on inside the government that proposed what they think is happening. But we did want to continue on, Will, and talk about Israel. As we set up in the last segment, a lot of you have a lot of questions. you know, a lot about Hamas and what they're doing and how they're handling it. Of course, President Trump making very strong statements of losing patience. Will, let's set it up and then CeCe would love your thoughts.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. So over the weekend, three men were released by Hamas. These were hostages, as we mentioned, that one of them didn't even know that his entire family had been killed on October 7th. until he was released from captivity. That image we showed, you could see kind of the before and after, like last photos before their captivity and then them being released over the weekend. And they are unrecognizable. The condition that they were held in, there's reports they were hung upside down by their feet and left to starve. Just absolute torture from these Hamas captors. President Trump has said that he's losing patience with Hamas. Hamas today mentioned or put out a statement that they are pausing all future releases of hostages because of violations they believe Israel has in the ceasefire deal. I'll let you go over that. But we also say sometimes this is what Hamas does when they have no more bargaining chips or they have nothing left to give. They try to spin it and make it seem like it's Israel's fault. But in reality, the condition of these hostages shows that the health of any remaining, you know, will be increasingly worse if they are still alive. You have to remember who you're negotiating with.
SPEAKER 09 :
Some people have said, well, why did Israel do this deal where so few get out and hundreds of the imprisoned Hamas members are released? Well, because you're dealing with a terrorist organization and you value human life and you value your own people. So you're going to do whatever you can to get them home safely. And sometimes it's not necessarily about a good deal. It's not a one-for-one deal. You're not negotiating with a normal government here. You're dealing with a terrorist-led government. And when that happens, yeah, it's not fair. None of this was ever fair. And I want to make sure people understand that. Not fair to Israel.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Yeah, Israel always is the one that makes the concessions. They're always the one that tries to do what's right. And just like President Trump said when Netanyahu was in town, we've tried something for 70 years and it doesn't work. And that's because you're trying to negotiate with a terrorist organization that never, I would say, never honors their words. Not sometimes, never honors their words. And so you have this situation again here where with these hostages that were released these last three hostages and i've said all along i'm literally shocked that there have been so many hostages still alive that they have been able to release because hamas they are monsters and i can't believe that you know not all of these people have not been murdered already but we've seen these last three men as they have been released Like President Trump said, they look like Holocaust survivors. They were in horrible condition and they were emaciated. And, you know, President Trump said, I don't know how much longer we can take that. And at some point we're going to lose our patience. And so, you know, now that Hamas has come out and made their statement that, oh, because Israel has violated the ceasefire agreement, we're now not going to release the Zionist prisoners, which were scheduled for the February 15th was the next scheduled date. And it's postponed until further notice pending the enemies, again, Israel's compliance and the retroactive fulfillment of the past week's obligations. And that, once again, is like you're saying, Will, is... spin because hamas is the one that never honors their word israel goes above and beyond and then hamas has been pushed into a corner like you said they probably don't have any more prisoners that are alive to be released and that's going to look bad on them or they're going to look even worse than these last three looked who were clearly tortured like you said hung upside down and starved. That's what monsters do. That's ridiculous. And that's who Hamas is, and that's who they're trying to negotiate with. So I think Trump's right. At some point, we lose our patience.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Hamas is responding, allegedly, to the strategic attacks that happened over the weekend in Lebanon.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. That is part of it. They also add that they say some of these details like not allowing a quick enough return to northern Gaza, which, as we know, has been completely leveled, that there are these little bargaining points that were in the deal that they're trying to say Israel is not living up to. Yes, Israel did do some airstrikes in Lebanon, which should not happen. have any bearing over Hamas. However, they are very kindred spirits, Hezbollah and Hamas, because of their same mission to destroy and eradicate the Jewish people in the state of Israel. But once again, you look at this and the work that we've done and the proximity we have at the ACLJ to these hostages, to the hostage families, we have been fortunate and blessed that some of the hostages, the families we represented, they were able to have reunions with their family. That isn't the case for all of them. And even for some of the hostages that are finally being freed under this deal, they didn't even know. Probably the one thing that was keeping them alive through that torture of Hamas was the hope of being reunited with their family one day. Right. Not learning until after their release that their family was killed, murdered by their own captors back on October 7th. And they had been the lone survivor of their family and survived torture and brutality for over a year to be released and find out that your family is no longer.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. The one hope that they had, like you said, we can imagine that when you're being tortured and you have it for, you know, as long as they have been in captivity, that the one hope that they were holding out is that they would be reunited with their wife and their children. And then to find out that they had been murdered and they are not going to have that reunion is just, again, continuous torture. And again, shows how evil Hamas is. And like you said, we had 10 clients that the ACLJ actually represented before the working group and enforced her involuntary disappearances at the United Nations. So far, two of them have been declared murdered and then six of them have been released and we have two that remain and we obviously do not know about the status of whether they're alive or dead, but we're hopeful that they will be released.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but the fight for the ACLJ continues on as we will not stop our support of Israel and these hostages. And look, I understand the frustration and I'm looking at the comments and people are concerned about the way that they're negotiating. But again, you have a country who values human life and a country that does not. And sadly, those that do not, when they have any bargaining chips, they're going to give you the least possible. At least some people got free. But it is disheartening to see the moves that have come up this weekend. And we're all hoping for, we're all maybe hoping that it was going to last longer. The things can happen. You never know what will occur in the next few hours even. It's not that shocking, but we're hopeful. we can stay hopeful and we need to keep praying for these families and praying for for the hearts of these people so i encourage you go to aclj.org and take a look at some of the great resources we have there obviously if you can support support but look at the great resources we have that you can share with your friends because there's so much there if you have any issues or you have any concerns there are easy to understand resources there for all these topics we talk about So go to ACLJ.org, do that. Download the new ACLJ app while you're at it as well. If you already have the ACLJ app, you can update it, but we have a brand new ACLJ app. It's really cool. You can say, hey, maybe Israel is your top topic. You can tell the app that and it will customize the experience for you or maybe it's life or any of these. So do that. Go to ACLJ.org slash app or scan the QR code. and download the app. A lot of you have already, and it's still brand new, so make sure you give us your feedback. If you're an ACLJ champion, you get even more of a customized experience. That's someone that gives on a monthly basis. So when I do it, when I log in, it says champion at the top, which is pretty cool because I am an ACLJ champion as well, obviously, as a supporter. But I encourage you right now to do that as we head into the next break. Now in the next segment, I'm going to say Bill, Tony, Dimitro, Sandy, Jesse. And we've got one line currently being screened right now. We're going to take as many calls as we possibly can. So stay on hold. I know a lot of you have been on hold for about a half an hour. We are going to do our best to get to as many of you as possible in the next segment. Just get your comments ready. Start thinking about them. So then when we go to you, you're ready to go. Again, I'm going to encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ. There's so many of you watching online that maybe never have seen us before. That's sort of the best part and maybe sometimes the worst part because it's hard to reach. The best part of being on a platform like YouTube where things are discoverable. or now on the Salem News Channel where maybe you're watching on Pluto, maybe you're watching on Samsung Plus and you've never seen us before. We do this show each and every day from noon to 1 p.m. Eastern, Monday through Friday, as well as great clips and segments that get posted and exclusive content on all of our channels and social media outlets. So I encourage you right now, if you are brand new, there's a great way to support the ACLJ. I'm not going to ask you to give financially. If you want to, great. But what I'm going to ask you to do is just hit that subscribe button. And like I said, on YouTube alone, over 464,000 of you have done that. I'd love to get that up to 465,000 today. And with just you watching right now, I know we can do that. There's so many more. There's 200,000 who watch on Rumble. Millions on some of the other platforms. is amazing the way new media is able to get people we're not just a media organization we're not just a show you heard about the legal work we're doing and we'll continue that on as well and you're going to hear about that all through this week as we have a lot more to cover because right now we are battling 25 lawsuits specifically against the deep state we're taking on fbi's weaponization against christians and conservatives and just because you have a administration now you know a little bit more willing to work with us That doesn't mean you're going to have to root out a lot of these problems. We're going to talk more about that coming up with a lot of the calls that have come in at 1-800-684-3110 or go to ACLJ.org. We'll be right back with the most important voice, yours. All right, last segment of the day. But, of course, if you're subscribed, you're going to get a lot more content always pushed throughout the day on our social media feeds or on YouTube and Rumble. Let's continue on and take some phone calls. There are six calls in eight and a half minutes. Let's see if we can do it. Let's go in the order they came in because that's, I think, the only fair way right now. Bill's calling in Wyoming on line one, watching on ACLJ.org. Go ahead, Bill.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Just a quick thought, spitballing. It would be kind of nice to be able to send the leakers back with the gang members and lawbreakers. Anyway, my main reason for calling is, what about all these lawsuits trying to prevent President Trump from fulfilling his promises, like defunding USAID?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, we saw that well over the weekend. A lot of halts, a lot of stops, a lot of rogue judges getting in the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. And to Bill's point, I mean, we warned this would happen. What did we say during the lead up to inauguration? We said the work of the ACLJ to be able to file in these cases and enter into as an amicus or other ways we can work, it's going to ramp up the attorney's work exponentially over the next four years because that is the tactic they're going to take. And you jurisdiction shop, you find the right place where At the lower court level, you can get a judge to put a temporary restraining order or an injunction in place to try to halt and slow down the work. I do think that with the vast majority of these, the U.S. government will be able to prevail and continue this work. But I do love the whack-a-mole the left's having to play because as soon as they get a TRO in place on one aspect of it, The Doge team just goes, cool, we've got a million other places we can go and do this. So they move on to another one. They start gutting it. They start getting rid of the waste, fraud, and abuse. And then they move on to the next. It's so fascinating. They weren't ready for this. I think the left took Doge as a joke. Absolutely. And so weren't prepared for how quickly they are cutting the budgets of their bureaucrat buddies.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's great. There's a call that's pretty related. Let's go to Sandy in California. Hey, fun fact about whack-a-mole. I once met with the guy who created whack-a-mole. That is the least surprising thing you've said on the show today. So go ahead, Sandy, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. God bless you guys and your organization. I wondered if there's any action that we can take legally against the bureaucrats who approved our taxpayers' dollars to go to these frivolous and bogus causes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, Sandy, yeah. Yeah, I mean, here's the biggest thing you can do. Vote the congressional leaders out of office that structured it this way. We're approving all of this. I think that to some degree, a lot of the discretionary spending and then the grant programs, I don't think it's the bureaucrat themselves that did anything within U.S. law illegal, even though it probably should be in many cases.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's just pushing through. things that were absolutely ridiculous and egregious. Will's right. It may not be technically illegal, but it is government waste. You are wasting taxpayer dollars on things that have no impact. I think that's also the main thing is you can't even trace a lot of these organizations back to being real. They don't have websites. They don't have anything. According to Elon Musk, a lot of it was just submitted for approval, approved.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I think also we got a taste of this when you saw all the fraud of COVID relief dollars. that was essentially operating like the way USAID has been working for generations. So there could be people on the other side of that that do get prosecuted for defrauding the United States government by saying that here's the work we do when they're actually doing nothing at all but taking the dollars of Americans.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, four more calls in five minutes. Let's keep trying. Dimitro is calling on line three. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hello, gentlemen, and thank you very much for your hard work. God bless you guys. So on the question of should HG combine the persecuted agency leaks, of course, she should 100% and put into jail or find those who went against the law. For the last four years, we've seen so much nonsense, so much shenanigans. Our country became looking like Banana Republic, literally. I mean, I talked to my Slavic friends from Ukraine and Russia, and i can't with a straight face tell him how horrible the corruption is in russia and ukraine because unfortunately we were getting to the same level here within the last four years with the previous administration now we need to put into jail or find those who did wrong because in our state of washington now they're proposing to have insurance for gun owners guess what if that goes through we're not going to be able to have um you know to enjoy second amendment because people can barely pay for their bills of as of consequence for the last four years
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, Demetrio, a lot of those are state-by-state kind of issues, and of course you're living in a state where that would be the case.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, but then you also look at the executive order President Trump signed reaffirming and putting in safeguards to protect the Second Amendment. I feel like the U.S. government may sue Washington if they feel like that is infringing upon the rights that are within that state. But once again, Demetrio, I agree with everything you said. I feel like the Bidens learned from the best when it comes to Ukrainian corruption potentially.
SPEAKER 06 :
potentially in russian uh corruption but we'll see where it goes and hopefully that we start holding people accountable thanks for calling tony now in tennessee go ahead we are running short on time let's try to do it logan logan thanks so much for taking my call it's good to talk to you guys again um let's see the um I've got a great appreciation for the, and I'm sure you guys are all attorneys there with law degrees. I've got a great appreciation for our legal system and the study of that, warts and all. But in doing so, I'm convinced this country needs a lot more hanging judges.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, Tony, I think we went a little too far on that. Let's go ahead and continue on. Sorry about that, folks. Let's go to Jesse in Texas. Jesse, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 11 :
hi regarding the ice raids at least some of the subjects of those raids are probably members of those criminal gangs that have recently been declared international terrorists yeah jesse i'm only cutting you off because we're just really running low on time but yeah i think that that's true there's a lot of these uh arrests that are happening and that's what they're talking about well and his point is too is that are these agents then aiding and abetting the enemy terrorists i think yeah
SPEAKER 08 :
And I think that's where the attorney general, the next FBI director, is going to have a lot more leeway in showing the way forward with this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's not all humanitarian-seeming. Like, oh, we're just going to tell these families to avoid. This is not what's happening here. It doesn't seem like it, at least. You wouldn't have this kind of outcry. All right, Jesse, thank you. Kurt in Wisconsin, watch on Salem News Channel. Kurt, you got about a minute. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Is this for Kurt? Yep, Kurt, you're on the air. Oh, yeah, I just wanted to respond to the question about what should be done with these government employees. I feel they should be fired and lose their retirement altogether.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, Kurt, I'm only cutting you off because we're having some sound difficulties. I think you were listening on the radio as well to hear yourself, and that happens sometimes. But yeah, I think a lot of people think they should be fired, should never be able to work in government again. Same for the leakers. And if you were a retired federal employee, we appreciate that. I'm sure you were an upstanding citizen and took your job seriously.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I also think to his point, he's saying that, you know, if he were to steal this information, but you also look at the payment system that's being approved that Elon Musk is looking into. They're trying to say he's trying to take away, you know, programs and benefits. In reality, he's trying to make the government operate efficiently. And even the Treasury coding for different things had no had no cost center code. If the U.S. government were to be audited by the IRS, they would shut down the U.S. government and probably charge people with crimes because it is operating outside of any modern system. And that's where waste, fraud, and abuse slips through.
SPEAKER 09 :
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Join us as we examine the global implications of religious freedom with Isaac Sikh, who discusses the dire situation for Christians in India and the potential diplomatic conversations with Prime Minister Modi. The episode also scrutinizes government efficiency reforms under the Trump administration with insights from former White House liaison Catherine O’Neill Gillian. Additionally, Chris Mitchell provides an on-ground report from Israel, detailing the fragile ceasefire agreement with Hamas and the harrowing condition of recent hostage releases.
SPEAKER 14 :
from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
SPEAKER 16 :
I have the smallest margin in history, about a two-vote margin currently. So I've got to make sure everyone agrees before we bring the project forward, that final product. And we've got a few more boxes to check, but we're getting very, very close.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was House Speaker Mike Johnson yesterday on Fox News Sunday discussing the path forward on the long-awaited budget reconciliation proposal. Welcome to this Monday edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. Well, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, says he'll move forward this week with a two-step budget reconciliation plan, starting with a measure focused on border security and funding. The House Freedom Caucus supports a similar two-measure approach. We'll discuss it with Georgia Congressman Andrew Clyde, a member of both the House Appropriations Committee and the House Freedom Caucus. National Security Advisor Mike Waltz spoke on Meet the Press yesterday, defending efforts to cut wasteful, misdirected taxpayer spending.
SPEAKER 11 :
You have seen hearing after hearing after hearing on this. And the current chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee and the past in the House completely support an overhaul of USAID. It has become incredibly bloated. It's become incredibly top heavy. And it's essentially a series of contracts.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it's telling that calls for government accountability and efficiency have become a source of such heated debate. Meanwhile, a federal judge temporarily halted the Trump administration's plan to reduce the USAID workforce on Friday. We'll talk more about this with Katherine O'Neill Gillian, former White House liaison to USAID and the last Trump administration. India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi is slated to meet with President Donald Trump on Thursday. Despite India's troubling human rights record, the previous Trump administration maintained a friendly relationship with Modi. Unfortunately, conditions for Christians and other religious minorities in India have worsened over the past four years. In fact, at the end of last year, nearly 400 Christian leaders sent a letter urging Modi to address the systematic violence fueled by Hindu nationalism toward Christians and others. We'll get the latest on the situation in India from Isaac Sikh, CEO of the Sikhs Group. And finally, over the weekend, Hamas released three more hostages, but their condition is causing significant concern.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know we have a deal where we're supposed to get, they dribble in and keep dribbling in. But they are in really bad shape. They have been treated brutally, horribly. Even the ones that came out earlier, they were in a little bit better shape. But mentally, they were treated so badly. Who could take that? You know, at some point, we're going to lose our patience.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was President Trump yesterday on his way to the Super Bowl in New Orleans. We'll hear from CBN's Chris Mitchell in Israel about the status of the now very fragile ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas. All of that and more on today's edition of Washington Watch. If you've not yet downloaded the Stand Firm app, that will give you access to Washington Watch no matter where you are. In addition, you'll have access to the Washington Stand, FRC's steadily flowing news and commentary flow from a biblical perspective, as well as our daily biblical commentary. Stand on the Word. You can get it in the App Store. Or you can simply text the word APP to 67742 and I'll send you a link. House Speaker Mike Johnson said yesterday the House Republicans are getting very, very close to a final budget reconciliation package. But it's uncertain if it will get marked up this week as planned. Meanwhile, Senator Lindsey Graham, as I mentioned at the top of the program, plans to mark up his own budget resolution on Wednesday that will take a two-bill approach compared to the one-bill approach that the House Speaker and others have been promoting in the House. With the House scheduled for a week-long recess next week, how might this week unfold? Well, joining me now to discuss this and more is Congressman Andrew Clyde, a member of the House Appropriations Committee and the House Freedom Caucus. He represents Georgia's 9th Congressional District. Congressman Clyde, welcome back to the program. Good to see you. Tony, great to be with you this evening. So just within the last few hours, the House Freedom Caucus released a statement saying they are prepared to move forward with a two-bill reconciliation package. Give us the latest on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're absolutely correct. The House Freedom Caucus met over this past weekend, and we did a lot of work on this and introduced this particular budget reconciliation that is the two-step process, somewhat in line with what the Senate is doing. We're offering $100 billion to both judiciary and to Homeland Security in order to help with border security and $100 billion to national defense as well. Coupled with that is almost $500 billion worth of spending cuts. So it's a two and a half to one, all right, spending cuts over additional spending. But we need the additional spending for border security to ensure that border czar Tom Holman has the funds he needs to accomplish the mission that he was given by President Trump that the American people have demanded, and that is eliminating or removing, rather, violent, illegal aliens from our country. Budget reconciliation, I think, is the best path forward. You know, whether there's two bills or one, I'm good with either. But we have seen the one bill stall. And so this is the strategy now that we're moving forward with is the two bill. And this is an actual piece of legislation that we can take up and vote on.
SPEAKER 06 :
My understanding is I had a conversation actually earlier today with Senator Graham and that the funding for the border security is about depleted. So this is needed now rather than later.
SPEAKER 08 :
That is correct. Tom Holman needs this funding right now. They are running out of money to accomplish this mission. You know, it's not surprising to me that the Biden administration drained all of the accounts, the DHS accounts that would be necessary for them, for Tom Holman. and Secretary Nome to accomplish this mission of deportation. You know, that's just what the Biden administration did. And so we've got to be absolutely as quick as we can to get funding to them so they can do what they need to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, I understand this, as you said, there's cuts in this initial one bill that is being proposed, but there's additional cuts that would come in the second bill, if I'm not mistaken, if I read correctly what's being proposed by the Freedom Caucus.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. It's a two-step process. And we sent out a letter that actually talks about the second budget reconciliation package, which would deal with the tax cuts that President Trump has promised the American people, deal with the continuation of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which is about to expire at the end of this year. But then also you've got the no tax on tips, and you've got some incentives for manufacturing as well that need to bring that back into this country. All good things that will spur economic growth. And so what we will see is that one will be paid for with economic growth, all right, on one side, but then significant tax cuts on the other to the tune of about $1.5 trillion worth of tax cuts, which is absolutely necessary if we are going to move forward with the, excuse me, spending cuts, spending cuts, not tax cuts, spending cuts in order if we're going to move forward with the tax cuts that President Trump wants.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Congressman Andrew Clyde, the big question is, all right, is there agreement in moving forward in the House? Because the clock is ticking.
SPEAKER 08 :
The clock is definitely ticking, and we are working on that. You know, if we can get the more moderate side and the right side, the Freedom Caucus together, which is what we're working on right now, then the middle will come with us. And I am confident that we will be able to pass this type of legislation.
SPEAKER 06 :
What do you see as the sticking points at present?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, You know, some folks are very, very convinced that only the one bill process will work. I'm not convinced of that. I believe that people want tax cuts. All right. And we need to pay for those. And I believe that people want border security. But border security must come quickly. And we don't have the time because the tax cuts portion of it is very complex. So we don't have the time to get both of those together into one bill and pass it. That's just my opinion of it. But we certainly do have the time to get the border security and the defense portion of it done in very short order, because that's the primary focus right now. We have time to do the tax cuts.
SPEAKER 06 :
So the the the. the approach with the one bill was that all of those elements, for instance, the border security, the defense, which those two issues are more popular, that that would gather all of the support of conservatives, whereas some of the other elements, which are maybe not as popular, would be difficult to get all the Republicans on board. I mean, you're a part of the Freedom Caucus. Would all of the Freedom Caucus members vote for what's contained in the second bill, in your opinion?
SPEAKER 08 :
In my opinion, I think we would. In fact, we're actually pressing that issue right now with the speaker. So I believe that it would be the Freedom Caucus, the right side of the conference, would certainly be in support of it. I think where you have some sticking points is more the moderate side, those from New York or California that have the The higher taxes, and we have the little state and local tax issue that was capped in Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. It was capped at a $10,000 deduction. It's kind of going a little bit into the weeds, but that's one of the sticking points that I think we can certainly overcome.
SPEAKER 06 :
They met with President Trump. They talked about that issue when they met with him, when the more moderate members met with him down at Mar-a-Lago. Would they potentially sink the entire – reconciliation process or at least the second bill based on that?
SPEAKER 08 :
My gut feeling is, no, they wouldn't. The American people have spoken loud and clear when it comes to President Trump. They elected him. He said this was one of his absolute main focuses. Securing the border was one, deporting illegal aliens along with securing the border, and then tax cuts, extending his 2017 tax cuts. That was his other primary focus. I don't believe in my heart of hearts that Republicans will stand in the way of President Trump accomplishing that agenda.
SPEAKER 06 :
Last question on that topic. Is it possible to see movement on it this week? Because the Congress is scheduled to, the House is scheduled to break Thursday afternoon and will be out next week.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's going to be up to Speaker Mike Johnson. I'm sure he has seen this bill that was just, you know, put forward today and chairman of budget, which is Jody Arrington. And it's going to be up to them whether this moves forward this week or not. I certainly hope that it does. I know that we've got a budget meeting tomorrow to talk about this and to see what path maybe this can give us. But I'm encouraged. I'm encouraged with what the Freedom Caucus put out. This is a good plan. It could work.
SPEAKER 06 :
Final question for you. Got about a minute and a half left. The backdrop of all the efforts of the Department of Government Efficiency being led by Elon Musk, you know, cut. We've been talking about cuts. We've got a bloated government. We've got to cut. Well, Democrats are melting down over what's going on. What do you make of the response from Democrats?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, I've always said that in government, sunlight is the best disinfectant. And I think that that's what Doge is doing. That's what Elon is doing. He's bringing sunlight to this issue and showing all of the massive waste, fraud and abuse. And this judge, you know, I think Engelmeyer in what he is doing in stopping them with the judicial order, which I think has no merit whatsoever. You know, it's tremendous judicial activism. I think President Trump called it out very severely. And and this has to stop this kind of judicial activism because, you know, for the Democrats to be opposed to eliminating waste, fraud and abuse and making our government more efficient is just stunning. That goes to show you they have no message.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is stunning. You're absolutely right. Congressman Andrew Clyde, always great to see you. We'll be tracking this very closely and hope to talk to you again real soon. Great to be with you, Tony. Thank you. All right, folks, stick with us. We're going to talk more about USAID on the other side of the break.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us on this Monday. And again, I encourage you to get the Stand Firm app. You can go to the App Store and look for Stand Firm. That way you can watch Washington Watch no matter where you go. Also, you'll have access to our news and commentary, The Washington Stand. Well, as the left continues to rant and rave against the Trump administration's effort to tackle the bloated agency that USAID has become, Republicans maintain that drastic measures are necessary to tackle the fraud, fraud, waste, clearly abuse that has not only plagued this agency, but quite frankly defines it. Considering how Democrats claim they want more transparency in government, Is that something that only applies in areas where they think the GOP will look bad? I have to applaud the Trump administration going in and cutting. You can restore, you can build back up if you need to, but it's layer upon layer upon layer. Here now to offer an insider's perspective on this is Catherine O'Neill Gillihan, former White House liaison to USAID. Catherine, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you so much, Dr. Perkins. And I have my little one here in my lap. So you can see the top of her head, but she's joining us too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's great. That'll be her first live interview on Washington Watch. Make sure you put this in her baby book.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
So let's talk about that. You were appointed toward the end of the Trump first term of the Trump administration to clean up the personnel within the agency and shut down a lot of these programs that are now all coming to the forefront. Did you see any accountability that was expected from those in USAID when you were there?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I didn't. I mean, if you look at the federal workforce and if you were to put them on a political spectrum, I would say about 97 percent of them are on the left. And so they're not going to want to do some of the things that we wanted to do. And that's just the reality. And I did actually serve at the State Department first for three years in the first term, starting in the beginning in 2017. So I had three years of experience dealing with these sorts of programs and funding and everything at the State Department. And then I went back to the campaign in 2020. And that's when I got a phone call to come in the day after the election in 2020 to start you know, revamping some of these efforts.
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That's, I think, a great vantage point to look at USAID from the State Department, because it's supposed to work in concert with our foreign policy to support and really further American priorities in our foreign policy. And I worked very closely with the former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo when I served on on the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom, and often found that USAID, although there were some good folks at the top in the last administration, in the Trump administration, often was working at counter purposes.
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Absolutely. You know, that's actually where I started at the State Department was the Office of International Religious Freedom with my beloved former boss, Pam Pryor, who I believe you know pretty well. So we were started in the Religious Freedom Office and then we were moved up to the undersecretary's front office that covered a lot of these programs, democracy, human rights, labor, refugees, trafficking, et cetera, et cetera. And the problem was that you would have two tracks. You would have one coming out of the State Department, and then you'd have one coming out of USAID. And oftentimes, they weren't on the same page. And if you go back and look at the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, which followed the executive order that President Kennedy put in place to establish USAID, it says in the first few sentences of the bill that it should be under the advisement of the Department of State. So Trump's team is doing nothing out of character or out of the law, and I think that's the way it should be.
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If nothing else, what they're doing is they're pulling it back to the original intent that it is to be a tool of our foreign policy through the State Department. How many on the left are appalled that Secretary of State Marco Rubio is reigning in USAID? But, you know, based on the history and the statute, the creation of it you just stated, aren't those reactions a little overblown?
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Absolutely. They're totally overblown. And I think, you know, actually, Secretary Rubio issued a bunch of waivers saying that there are some programs and fundings that are mission critical and in alignment with our national interests. And these people, these... recipients of the funding have to apply for the waivers. And there's so much insubordination that I was talking to a friend of mine who's in the thick of things. And he was saying that there were some employees that were refusing shipments at ports just because they wanted to protest this, you know, the halting of these aids. I mean, the insubordination is so deep and it's so out of control. And Secretary Rubio has every right to do what he's doing. President Trump has every right. And I think courts and we'll prove that.
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I think you're right. When you have someone that is working an agency or those within the agency working at counter purposes to the commander in chief who was elected by the people to carry out a particular focus, America first in this case, he should expect those that work within those agencies to follow suit. I just have a little over a minute left, Catherine, let me ask you this. So we know that it doesn't always, they're misdirected in many ways, but what about the waste? Did you see firsthand a lot of waste and abuse of taxpayer dollars?
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Absolutely. There's just a general malaise within federal agencies. I'm in the private sector now. I started a business about four years ago, and we've been doing really well. We're very successful. But there's a general malaise, and there's not a fire to get things done in the government. And so there would be meetings to have meetings to have meetings, then to make a plan. And so there's just a lot of wasted time and a lot of inaction. And I think President Trump this time around is putting people in place that are coming from the private sector that know how to get things done and know how to do them efficiently and quickly. And that's what the American taxpayer should want out of our government.
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Yeah, I think you're right. That's quite evident that he is doing that. And he comes in this time much different than he did in 2016, knowing that people are not necessarily going to get in line and maybe time for them to get out if they're going to work at counter purposes. Catherine, I want to thank you for joining us. And your little girl was great.
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Thank you so much, Dr. Perkins. It was great to see you.
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All right. Have a great day. All right. Look, the left is squealing like a stuck pig because we are seeing government cut, moving away the layer after layer after layer after layer of bloated misspending. All right, don't go away. We're back after this with more.
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Welcome back to this Monday edition of Washington Watch. Glad you have joined us. Well, India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi is scheduled to visit the United States this Wednesday and Thursday, and he will be meeting with President Trump, someone he's called a friend. Well, in a tweet today, Modi said that the visit will cement India-U.S. friendship and boost ties in diverse sectors. Well, given all of President Trump's actions last week, including an executive order on eradicating anti-Christian bias, will there be a discussion on the increasing threats to Christians and other religious minorities in the prime minister's own country? Joining me now to discuss this situation is Isaac Six, co-founder and CEO of The Six Group, an organization that advances human rights, religious freedom, and the cause of liberty around the world. Isaac, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
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Thank you for having me, Tony. Good to be here.
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So, Isaac, you know the situation in India quite well. At the end of last year, nearly 400 Christian leaders sent a letter to the prime minister and to the president in India asking for them to address this issue of systematic violence that's being targeted at Christians. This situation has grown worse over the last several years. Is this something that President Trump should discuss with Modi this week?
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Yes, absolutely. I think the president has an incredible opportunity to make a deal here with the prime minister. I think in the past they've had a good relationship. And this is an issue the president's made clear is at the top of his foreign policy agenda. He made that clear last week during the National Prayer Breakfast. He made it clear with the creation of the White House Faith Office. And the vice president made it clear at the International Religious Freedom Summit. So they have an opportunity here to make an arrangement that's going to help both India and Americans, especially Christian Americans who are looking at this and are incredibly concerned about the amount of persecution that's happening in some parts of India.
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This is very important when you look at the growing relationship between the United States and India, which India is, quote unquote, the largest democracy in the world. I'm not so sure. It makes the term pretty elastic to wrap it around India. But there's a lot of economic ties, a lot of businesses, Fortune 500 companies doing more business in India. And of course, we've made a lot of focus on China and their abuse of religious minorities, their treatment of Uyghurs. But India is not far behind.
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Yeah, that's right. And you're right. This is a big issue on two fronts. The business relationship is huge. You're talking about almost upwards of $200 billion in trade between India and the United States on an annual basis. And this issue actually has direct overlap when you're talking about religious freedom. India now has 12 states that have these anti-conversion laws, and they're often misleadingly called religious freedom laws. But these laws make it almost impossible to legally change your religion. And there have been hundreds of Christians over the last few years in these 12 states who have been arrested or charged with criminal penalties for basic things like praying for the sick or attending a church service. I've met with these Christians. I've been in their homes, seen the bruises from the beatings they've taken for it. Ironically, often they're beaten and then arrested by the local police. So I think the president has a chance to bring those cases up. India, the states need to drop all charges against these individuals. But we're talking about 12 states. That means 700 million Indian Christians and Indians citizens in those states who are not free to simply choose and change their religion as their conscience dictates. So that's a big issue. And that directly impacts business in the country. It directly impacts our business with India. So I think this is something the president has an opportunity to have a win on.
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Isaac, during my time on the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, we tracked India. In fact, there were some that wanted to see India as illicit as a country of particular concern. threat to Christians is similar in some ways to what we've seen in Nigeria, and that the government is not directly perpetrating it, although they're fueling it with some of their statements, their anti-Christian statements, but they're turning a blind eye to those who attack Christians. Is that an accurate assessment of still what is happening there?
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That is accurate. And really at the local and the state level is where we need to see change. That's where Christians are getting arrested. Pastors are being arrested for holding simple church services. And the police are not giving them an opportunity to state their case. The judges are biased against them. That's where at the federal level, the prime minister of India, Prime Minister Modi, can really weigh in here. But yes, I mean, the facts are clear. USURF has recommended India for country of particular concern. Open Door says India at number 11 on their watch list. Global Christian Relief on their red list has India as number one globally for destruction of Christian places of worship and buildings. So the facts are clear. The issue is clear. Now we just need to see progress made.
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What would you like to see President Trump ask Prime Minister Modi to do specifically?
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Specifically, the top ask is for the release or the dropping of charges against the Christians at these local levels who've been arrested or charged under anti-conversion laws. We need to see that stop. And I should be clear, there's parts of India where you can practice your faith freely and not have issues. It's a big country. Places like Delhi and others, you can have a church and be fine. But in places like Chhattisgarh and Andhra Pradesh, there needs to be a dropping of these charges. So if the president could just ask the prime minister about those who have been charged with crimes under anti-conversion laws. That would be a win in and of itself.
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Does the, at the federal level there, the prime minister have the authority to weigh in with those state leaders?
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I would guess without looking closely at the laws that he's not able to directly cause those charges to be dropped. He's just going to have to informally talk to state leaders, talk to local leaders and ask for.
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Same way we do it here in this country. There's always strings attached and there's ways to to encourage people to do the right thing. Isaac, we're out of time. I want to thank you for joining us. Appreciate the work that you do.
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Thank you, Tony.
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And folks, this is one of the issues to be praying about as the president meets with with Prime Minister Modi on Thursday that that he would weigh in. All right. We're going to go to Chris Mitchell in Israel next. So don't go away. Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council here in Washington, D.C. Behind me is one of the most recognizable buildings in all the world, the U.S. Capitol. What does it stand for? Well, most people say government. But you know, the Bible talks about four institutions of government. You know what they are? And do we have a republic or a democracy? Well, what do you say? Also, what about this thing, separation of church and state? Does that mean Christians shouldn't be involved in government? Guess what? We address those issues and more in our new God and Government course. I invite you to join us to see what the historical record and the Bible has to say about government. Join us for God and Government.
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Well, Tony, I would say there would be outrage throughout the country, especially its leaders, Israeli President Isaac Herzog, Prime Minister Netanyahu. I spoke yesterday to Deputy Foreign Minister Sharon Haskell and just said the scenes there were just heartbreaking. And she not only blamed Hamas, but she also blamed the United Nations for not advocating for the hostages and especially the Red Cross. who actually participated and has for the last several weeks in the hostage releases and yet hasn't taken the time or fought, as she said, to go ahead and make sure there were visits to these prisoners held in captivity for over 490 days. We know that their conditions were just horrific. Many of them, some, I think these men were kept in tunnels for the entire captivity, left on a starvation diet. Many people here, you know, comparing their appearance to what appeared to many of the hostages, the Holocaust survivors, that is, and evokes echoes of the Holocaust. So throughout Israel, I think just heart wrenching. and horrific images that they had to see, just gut wrenching. And one more ride on this emotional roller coaster that Israelis have been on ever since October 7th, and especially in this last several weeks of these hostage releases week by week, but apparently now stopped by Hamas.
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One other aspect of this, this is not the first time we've seen it, but these three were kind of paraded around, forced by armed terrorists to read statements before their release. This clearly is not a part of the agreement to parade them through the streets in front of terrorists as if they were trophies.
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Exactly. And the one before that, some of the hostages were literally surrounded by crowds that were just pressing on them and Hamas gunmen. So this is a propaganda tool by Hamas. Actually, we understand that an Al Jazeera journalist helped stage some of these events. You have the parading up. There's a banner behind them. One of the banners has said, Zionism will not win. So it's all part of a propaganda effort by Hamas to humiliate these hostages. And actually part of their plan has been for months, and that was discovered by documents by Yair Yassin, the former or the late Hamas leader, to help divide Israeli society. Those that, on one hand, want to do anything to release the hostages, even with the many hundreds of Palestinian prisoners, or even an end of the war. So this is all part of the dilemma that Prime Minister Netanyahu THE SECURITY CABINET HAVE TO DEAL WITH HOW TO MANAGE AND DECIDE HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE WAR AS WELL AS TRYING TO PROCEED, TRYING TO RELEASE ALL OF THESE HUSTAGES BOTH DEAD AND ALIVE.
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extremely difficult situation for the prime minister and his war cabinet. Because I can imagine if you were a hostage family, I mean, you want your loved one released. You want to get them home no matter what. But now we've heard originally that there was some expectation that those in better condition would be released first. They would hold back others. And then with what we witnessed this weekend, you have to wonder what the condition would is of those that are remaining as hostages.
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That's right. And, you know, some of the hostages have been saying exactly what kind of conditions they were in. Some didn't see actually any other hostages for their entire captivity, just to the very end. We've heard reports that Hamas has actually had to teach some of these captives to walk because they weren't able to walk because of the restricted diet they were on, malnutrished, malnourished, and in a very, very... difficult uh... physical condition you know there's several groups here uh... tony in israel first of all you have a hostage of families and as you say they'll do they want to do anything they can to get their loved ones uh... freed and also but you have the people that uh... know that prisoners, the Palestinian prisoners that have been released will likely and historically will go on to commit other terror attacks. So you have Israelis who wonder who could be the next victims of terror or in some of these murderers, the victim families are seeing that they're these perpetrators of murders of their loved ones are released. And then you have, Tony, the the ones The men and women who have fallen in battle and their families are saying, we don't necessarily want the end of the war. We don't want those members of our families to have died in vain. So such a difficult time for Israeli society on so many levels.
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Yeah, a clear prayer point for us back here in the States, praying for the leadership there in Israel, praying for a managed peace to emerge out of this. And so that really sets me up for my next question. Chris Mitchell is... Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and members of his team were here in Washington last week, had a chance to meet with him on Monday evening before he met with President Trump. I think in having spoken to some of those around him after his meeting with Trump, The meeting went much better than they anticipated. Very positive meeting. So as you've heard the public comments from the prime minister glowing about the meeting, close relationship, strong statements of support coming from the president. What was the reaction there in Jerusalem and beyond there in Israel to the meeting last week?
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Well, I think for one, Tony, Israelis are just exuberant about President Trump and the kind of support that he gave to Prime Minister Netanyahu last week, the kind of greeting he gave at the White House, for that matter, a huge difference than what would happen under the previous administration. where now Israelis feel like they have a tailwind behind them with the U.S. backing them and President Trump. But for the last 16 months or so, before January 20th, they had a headwind with the Biden administration, keeping up, keeping weapons from them and not helping them diplomatically. just a sea change in the difference, and I think Israelis are quite excited. They're also, you know, and I was talking to some of them earlier today, they're quite agreeable to this whole idea of what's going on in Gaza, this whole idea that they would relocate the people from Gaza, and then the U.S. and other nations would come and rebuild Gaza. Whether or not that actually is going to come to fruition remains to be seen, But I think Israelis here really, really appreciate the new administration and the new White House.
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I spoke to some of the president's advisers over the weekend regarding that proposal. And I think clearly it was designed to shake up the conversation and move beyond the old narrative of, well, we need a two-state solution. And it's, you know, it never has worked. resulted in anything, because it's unworkable. And I think October the 7th has proven that a two-state solution there does not work. So, I think the president is trying to create a broader conversation and involve many of the surrounding nations in getting involved in this, because they have been pretty much hands off. They don't want to touch the Palestinian issue. This, I think, will force them to the table.
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Yeah, and there's many reasons why they don't want to deal with the Palestinian issue. You know, ever since October 7th, for one, Egypt has had closed border and they haven't allowed any, hardly any of the Palestinians to leave Gaza, although that's what's happened historically in many conflicts where people are, refugees are allowed to leave. And so that's something that Egypt has really been resisting. Historically, it's been very difficult for Jordan and or Egypt to bring in people that have been raised on an ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood, which represents a mortal threat to both of these countries. So that's part of the reluctance that they're going through right now. Also, Tony, you know, just in the last few hours, as you said, Hamas is abrogating the deal. They're blaming Israel for it. And so President Prime Minister Netanyahu, that is coming from a, you know, a wonderful week of meetings from Congress to the White House, but now coming into a crisis. The Israeli defense minister, Yaakov Katz, is saying the IDF is going to be put up to its highest alert inside Gaza. So we're not only maybe looking at an end of the hostage deal, maybe a resumption of fighting inside Gaza, and certainly a time to be praying for all of the leaders of Israel, for all of the Israelis, especially the hostages' families, but what may happen in the decisions being made as we speak right now in the security cabinet.
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Chris Mitchell, we just have a few minutes left. I'm going to dig a little deeper into that, explore that a little further, because now the situation is you've got Hamas saying the deal's off, we're not going to release these other hostages. Well, that then triggers a political reaction on the Israeli side of the equation, which forces the prime minister, because you have some conservative members to his right that are saying, look, we need to finish this thing anyway. But then he's got the hostage issue. families that are saying, we've got to get these hostages back, and this deal appears to be the only way to do it. This is a very difficult way forward.
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It's a very difficult, delicate balancing act that the prime minister has to go through. Ben Gavir, who is one of the political parties that actually has left the government in the last month or so, he's saying we need a full-out assault on Gaza right now. But you also have... the decision to be made about what to do. And I think it seems to be clear right now that really this is Hamas that's making this decision. And if we look in a broader perspective, Tony, probably Iran may be pulling some of the strings behind the scenes. And that is another major issue that I'm sure President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu talked about. But a very difficult, political, delicate issue balancing act that Prime Minister Netanyahu has to go through right now.
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I think obviously the families lose out here because I think this may be the last chance for a clear resolution of the hostage situation. But Hamas and the Palestinians are going to lose out big time. Because then there's no reason not to eliminate Hamas and move forward with even the proposal that President Trump put on the table of basically clearing out the Gaza Strip and moving the Palestinians out. They could be the big losers in this.
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Very much so. In fact, they've been the big losers since October 7th, even though they're claiming victory. And right now and also Hamas spokesmen are saying October 7th is not the end. They want to continue the fight to eradicate Israel, kill the Jews. So their fight continues to go on, even though they're sort of. doing this out of the rubble of the last 16 months of fighting. And as your point, Tony, it may be the hostage families that are tragically not gonna be able to survive this or their loved ones not be able to survive. So it would allow Israel to go in if Hamas is gonna be intractable and saying the deal is over and we're not gonna allow any more of the hostages released. So such a tragic situation for many of these families. but they're holding on to prayer and hope.
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All right, Chris Mitchell, we're out of time for today. I want to thank you for joining us. But just to recap here, we need to be praying for the prime minister and his war cabinet as they decide the way forward. We need to be praying for the hostages, for their release, and for the hostage families that have to bear the grief and the burden of this. Chris Mitchell, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
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Great to be with you, Tony.
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Join Bill Gunderson as he navigates the Monday edition of Best Stocks Now, breaking down the market trends after two turbulent weeks. From the highs of gold prices reaching new records to the strategic landscape of tariffs involving major countries like China, Bill offers a professional perspective into the financial markets. This episode covers the latest updates on various market indices, provides a sneak peek into the NASDAQ closing ceremony in New York, and highlights the importance of earnings in driving stock prices.
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And welcome to the Monday. It is the Monday edition of the Best Stocks Now show. And for a change, the market's not getting crushed today as it did the last two Mondays. This is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm flying solo today. Barry and Jeff are in New York City. They'll be at the closing bell ceremony today at the NASDAQ. So turn on your TVs around 4 p.m. to see that. In the meantime, I'm holding down the fort here at HQ. The Dow is up 184 points right now, 44,487. The NASDAQ is up 206 points right now. A couple of big, big winners in the NASDAQ today. We'll get to that. NASDAQ up 1.1, 19,729. S&P up 38 at 6,064. The small caps up a little bit, a quarter of a percent. The big news today is gold. How about that? All time high. You got a little gold in your safe? Well, it is now $2,932 per ounce as it closes in on $3,000 for the first time ever. Crude oil is at $71.91. Interest rates behaving themselves today down one point. to uh 4.47 and bitcoin is up 1200 to 97,465 everybody happy today except the Kansas City Chiefs. So welcome to today's Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only firm. And we are off to a good start this year so far through six weeks of the year. Our AUM is up 7%. since the beginning of the year, and a lot of that has been because of capital appreciation. That's always good. Keep the customers happy, I always say. We work very, very hard to do that. I'm flying solo today. Jeff and Barry are both in NYC, New York City, Times Square, to be at the closing bell ceremony. at 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time today. Look for them on TV. And that would be on Bloomberg, CNBC. I don't know that Fox Business shows that. Maybe a few others. But anyways, the Profunds invited us this time. I've been doing business with Profunds for a long, long time. I decided to stay home, hold down the fort here at HQ today. A little too cold up there in New York City for me. Right now they're going to get a big winter snowstorm today. I hope they get out of there. Actually, I hope they stay there. I hope they get snowed in. I'm having fun here by myself. Just kidding. All right, now let's take a look at the markets here today. For a change, if you remember, last Monday we had a thrashing of the market because of the tariffs placed on Canada and Mexico. And by the time the midway point of the show last week, Mexico was caving. They thought about avocado sales over the Super Bowl Sunday, I guess, and they caved and sent troops to the border, or promised to send troops to the border. Canada caved, and they also decided to send troops to the border. Two Mondays ago, it was deep seek, if you remember. The market was deep seeked, and everybody thought that was the end to our AI sector. Well, it definitely changed the trajectory of the AI sector. But Palantir has been doing just fine ever since. And NVIDIA has really kind of perked up here recently. NVIDIA is one of the big winners here today. That's a very good chart on NVIDIA right now. I don't know what got into NVIDIA all of a sudden. The bad chart right now is Tesla. Tesla seems up against it a little bit between China and the EV slowing down sector here in the U.S. So that's kind of how we open here on this Monday for the first time in two weeks. Not a manic Monday. We did have the Friday fade again on Friday, however. I think I'm going to start a new strategy. When the market opens on this Friday, buy SQQ. I think that's it. Short the NASDAQ three times. triple your fun and see how that does because it's just it's been a friday fade it just seems to be the hot money does not want to go into the weekend being long and the dow was down 444 on on friday the nasdaq was down 268 after starting off in the green So that little trading trick of shorting the market at the beginning of the day on Friday would have worked really well last Friday. There was a weak jobs report, weak guidance from Amazon, kind of the main culprits. But there were a lot of big winners on Friday, too, such as Arista Networks, Oklo, Palantir, Booking.com, Reddit, etc., So that's how we ended the week and here's how we begin the week. We're starting the week on a high note, but we have a lot of threats out there as always. And we have an important update on the earnings season, how it's going. I would give it an A- right now, believe it or not. And we'll talk about the companies that will be reporting earnings this week. While the real estate market is all about location, location, location, the stock market is all about earnings, earnings, earnings. And if you can learn that lesson, that's one of the most important lessons that you can learn in the market. Stocks and indexes follow earnings. Well, let's begin with what we have to worry about. How about China? China's retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. imports have now gone into effect, just as U.S. President Donald Trump unveiled plans to impose new 25% tariffs on all steel and aluminum imports, marking the next leg of the global trade war. So as you can imagine, Our steel stocks, our aluminum stocks, our metals, commercial metals stocks are having a good day. That's also part of gold hitting a new all-time high today. Trump also announced something called reciprocal tariffs on every country. uh on uh tuesday or wednesday it won't affect everybody because there are some where we have similar tariffs but the ones that are taking advantage of the u.s we're going to have a repra represent repercosity he declared beijing last week announced tariffs on u.s imports ranging from coal well this is the coal industry that big in the u.s agriculture equipment They're probably building a lot of their own these days. And this came after Trump announced 10% tariffs on China. So the tariff war now is kind of focused on China. Canada and Mexico have gone to the back burner. And we think at some point Europe, it's just a matter of time before they go after Europe. And, you know, this bit about reciprocal tariffs, I think that would be on countries that are selling us a lot more goods than we're buying. I think Trump is looking for a little bit more reciprocal. If we buy $27 billion worth of your goods, we expect you to buy $27 billion worth of U.S. goods. So anyways, that is the next leg up in the tariff war. We'll see how China reacts in the tariff war right now. I don't see them caving anytime soon, although their economy is struggling right now as they are in one of the biggest military buildups of all time. Should we be worried about that? Yes, absolutely. But at the same time, they are struggling with their economy, which may be a blessing in disguise. They haven't rattled the saber towards Taiwan here recently. But China remains a very, very big threat in the world. How about minting pennies? Let's rip the waste out. Trump directs the Treasury to stop minting new pennies. Well, when's the last time you paid $1.67 and you pulled out two pennies and gave them exact change? I suppose some old-timers still do that. For the most part, we've become kind of a cashless society. I mean, I can't remember the last time I paid cash for something. It's always on that debit card, right? And do we really need to be minting pennies? Countries like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all stopped using one-cent pieces a long time ago, and we're still minting pennies. Our nickels next. We're going to get nickel and dime to death. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, we are now about, what, two weeks in? No more than that. We're about halfway done with earnings season. I love earnings season. It's always fun. You're always going to have one. I mean, our biggest one so far that disappointed was... Deckers Outdoor. I see Martha Stewart flying around her garden in Skechers, not Hoka's. But anyways, Decker's kind of disappointed. It was down 25%. That happens during earnings season. But on the other hand, Palantir had a huge earnings report. It was up 25% in one day. So earnings season always, you need a good chiropractor during earnings season because you do get a bit of whiplash. I got a good one. He cracks my neck after earnings season, and I'm back to normal for a while. Till the next earnings season. But so far we've got, let's see, we've had 62% of the companies have now reported actual results. Okay, so we've got 38% left. We've got 310 out of 500 S&P 500 companies that have now reported. And of those 310 companies, we have 77%. that have reported a positive earning surprise. That's just a little bit above average. 63% have reported a positive earning surprise. That's a good thing. The earnings growth rate for the S&P 500. Now here's the kicker. This is why I give this earnings season an A-. We started this quarter with about 11% expectations earnings growth, which is really good. I mean, year over year, to take a look at the same fourth quarter of 2023 and compare it with the fourth quarter of 2024, we were looking for about 11% growth when we began this quarter. We're now at 16.4% growth. That's amazing. This will mark the seventh straight quarter of year-over-year earnings growth for the index. It will also mark the highest year-over-year earnings growth since Q4 2021. Take that, all you bears out there. And nothing explains the bull market and the bullishness in the market more than that. stocks and indexes follow earnings it's a very simple lesson to learn listen to professor gunderson here i've been studying the markets and trading in them for the last 25 years as a professional money manager nothing drives the market more than earnings yes Valuation, the multiple is important too. But earnings are the fuel. It's like the wood pellets in your smoker on Sunday, right? Smoking that brisket, you run out of wood pellets and you quit smoking. The smoker turns off. You've got no fuel. The pellets are earnings in the stock market. And as long as those earnings continue to be fed into the market, especially increasing earnings, the market's going to go higher. as long as the markets are going to go higher, as long as the valuations remain reasonable. Now, let's put that into numerical perspective. 16.4 sounds well and good. But the fourth quarter of last year, 2023, the S&P made $55.56. If you annualize that, multiply it by four, we were running at about $220.00. Compare that with $60 in 2009. Nothing explains the bull market increase in earnings back in 2009 and $60 a share to $220 a share. But wait a minute. Now, 55.56 was a year ago. This quarter that has been completed and now being reported is going to come in around $64 per share. We're now running at a $250 per earnings annual clip. Slap a multiple of 21 on that. 22 is where we're at now in the market. And you can see valuing the market and the market becomes really a mathematical equation. A very simple mathematical equation. Earnings times a multiple. Equals the target price. And obviously what we're looking at in $64 is looking in the rear view mirror. The market is looking ahead. What does it think it can make the market in earnings this year? What does it think it can make next year? How is that computed? Do they just put their finger in the wind and come up with the number? No. There's analysts that talk to each of these companies in the S&P 500 on a regular basis, and they add them all up. And when one company reports, like Amazon on Thursday, they make an adjustment, and that all becomes part of those S&P 500 overall earnings. The forward ratio for the S&P goes to 22.1 on Friday. That's a little high. Okay, the five-year average is 19.8%. The 10-year average is 18 points. Why is it that high? Because it's looking ahead to some pretty solid growth this year and next year. 78 companies will report earnings this week. Let's take a look at that roster of companies that will report earnings and see where the highlights are. Last week we had an interesting week, Amazon being one that Amazon disappointed a little bit. That's the way it is. Today we've already had McDonald's. We'll get to them in a minute. i could use a good big mac uh let's see what else on semiconductor today nothing really big tomorrow coca-cola and pepsi let me just tell you even though they spend a lot of money on super bowl ads those are non-growth companies so if earnings drive earnings growth drives stock prices higher what happens when earnings growth slows down to single digits well The stock price appreciation slows down to single digits. That's why we call them soggy stocks. It's like walking around the house in soggy sneakers, messing up the carpet and getting yelled at by your wife. Coca-Cola, Pepsi are single-digit growers, okay? So all things being equal, you can expect single-digit appreciation. Now, a good growth company will report tomorrow, Shopify. That's the stock of today. Shopify kind of changed the world along with Amazon. The old shopping mall and the food court and visiting Santa during Christmas time has now become visiting Shopify. The aisles of Shopify online and having it delivered to your door, which we've become used to. Marriott will report tomorrow, Lyft and DoorDash. I did see some ads. I think Uber Eats advertised during the Super Bowl. And I think Instacart also advertised during the Super Bowl. I'll bet DoorDash had a busy day yesterday. I'll bet Pizza Hut had a busy day yesterday. And, of course, Uber. Who's going to report the rest of the week? We'll get to that in a minute. And some little stocks that I found here this morning that are interesting. We'll be right back.
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On the show, you can learn a lot about the market, okay? You say, Bill Gunderson, what about McDonald's? I go to McDonald's all the time. There's always a line, blah, blah, blah. It's all over the world. What do you think of McDonald's? Well, okay, think about it in your mind. Is McDonald's growing by 20% per year? No. I mean, where are you going to put another McDonald's? Oh, new communities come along and whatnot. And first thing that goes in usually is a McDonald's. Every community's got to have a McDonald's. And, of course, around here in the south, a Chick-fil-A comes along right behind McDonald's. So McDonald's reported today. We'll get to that in a bit. But don't you think at this point in time McDonald's is a 5%, 6% grower? Okay, so if you're using a very simple equation of earnings, let's just say McDonald's trades at 20 times earnings, which is probably pretty close. If they make $5 a share this year, it's a $100 stock. If they make $5.50 next year, it's a $110 stock, 10% growth. You can take a look at that growth rate and kind of predict what kind of returns you're going to get as an investor. Now, tomorrow you've got Coca-Cola. Okay, where are you going to put another Coca-Cola outlet? Coca-Cola would have to come up with something really big, exciting, new, which, you know, look, vanilla Coke, cherry Coke, different flavors of Coke. They have spiced Coke, this little bit, trying different things. But at the end of the day, it's a single-digit grower, as is Pepsi. Now let's take Shopify for instance. Shopify is going to report tomorrow. Shopify has been growing by 56% per year. That's their earnings growth. And you've gotten those kinds of returns in the stock. But now we've got to look forward to the next five years. What's it going to grow at over the next five years? I was thinking about DoorDash here and Uber Eats and whatnot earlier. When I was in San Diego for many years, 60 years, 59 years, something like that, and I had my... Started out on radio there on KCEO Radio in Rancho Santa Fe, Vista, Escondido was the area that covered. I had a guy that listened to my show. I was thinking about him when I thought about DoorDash. He was kind of one of the first disruptors in the food industry and delivering food to your door. His last name was Helms. And I can remember, he lived in Rancho Santa Fe because he sold his company for a pile of money. I can still remember in Burbank, California, the Helmsman coming down the street and honking his horn and people, housewives running out to buy fresh baked goods from the Helmsman, the Helms truck. And he had kind of a train whistle. He used to play it. I used to talk to him. He loved my show, and I talked to him several times. He would always end the conversation by sounding the horn that the helmsman would sound. And, you know, interestingly, this is just off on a little bit of a difference. He took advantage. Back then, stores were closed on Sunday for the most part, okay? Remember those days? And he delivered hot bread, fresh bread on Sunday. He took advantage of keeping the Sabbath day holy, which many people did and still do, especially here in the South. But he took advantage and delivered bread on Sunday. And, of course, he was bought out for millions and millions of dollars. He lived in Rancho Santa Fe, which is a very wealthy enclave. down in the San Diego area. Well, I mean, look at how ahead of his time was. That was in the early 60s. That was 40, 50 years ago, and now we have DoorDash. Uber Eats, Instacart, et cetera, delivering dinner, lunch, breakfast, whatever you would like, groceries, whatever, to your door. And now Home Depot's doing it. You know, the other day I ordered two gallons of paint. I needed two gallons of paint, special color. And I went online and ordered it from Home Depot, and up popped free delivery. I said, well, I'll take that. Why do I want to head over to Home Depot, stand there while they shake the paint, That's always boring. Then pick it up, drive home. That's an hour of my time. No, I had it delivered right to my door. So anyways, Cisco's going to report tomorrow. Single-digit grower. CVS Health, single-digit grower. The Trade Desk. No, the Trade Desk is a 20% grower. They kind of came up with a great platform for selling digital advertising space. Kraft is going to report tomorrow, which is Kraft Heinz these days, single-digit grower. QuantumScape will report tomorrow. That could be interesting. That's a quantum stock. Biogen, which is in the Dow, not probably worthy of the Dow. I would think they could do better than Biogen in the Dow. MGM Resorts, probably a single-digit grower these days. On Thursday, Airbnb, you know, a mid-teens grower. Roku, still looking for profit. They've lost money, I think. I don't think they're profitable yet. Applied Materials will report on Thursday. Coinbase, there's a big grower. DraftKings. How did the gambling stocks do? I know they wanted a Kansas City win. I bet they took a bath yesterday. DraftKings, we'll see. Let's see how DraftKings is doing today. It's always fun to see something happen and look at how the stock, well, DraftKings is up 31 cents today, so they must not have lost too much. Palo Alto Networks will report Deere, Datadog, Wynn Resorts, Sony. These are all companies you've heard of. That's why the market's so fun to hear these companies report. Paramount will report on Friday, and Redfin. So there you go. There's this week's lineup. Okay, Wedbush says that Palantir is indicative of AI software being a revolution right now. They're here now, and they call out Palantir, Salesforce, Oracle, IBM, Snowflake, MongoDB Elastic Pegasystems. How many of those commercials yesterday do you think were created by AI? I would say AI was involved in almost every one of those commercials yesterday, believe it or not. And you can see it. I mean, you can see it in the visuals, the graphics, how they change people to look like cartoons. And that's all AI, my friend. If you want to be an investor in AI, there's ETFs that can do it. They're software companies, and, of course, it takes a lot of high-speed chips to do it, and that's where NVIDIA comes in. ASM Lithography comes in. They make the equipment for making those high-speed chips, et cetera. So there's a lot of ways to be involved in AI. Then you go back to just a regular old company like BP, right? Used to be British Petroleum. We still need oil and gas. What's running those AI centers? What's running all the machinery over in Taiwan to make those chips? For the most part, it's still fossil fuels. BP shares surge as activist investor Elliot builds a stake. But oil and gas has been a terrible... The big oil companies, I can remember when they were like very steady, solid companies to invest in, but now with all the controversy of climate change, the move towards non-carbon fuels, etc., they just have not been very good investments. And... The boom in the U.S. with fracking no longer dependent on Middle East oil, prices have remained fairly low on oil, and that hurts companies like Chevron and BP and Exxon. They're not the stocks that they once were. I saw a lot of ads for Lilly yesterday during the Super Bowl. I also saw an ad for HIMSS. which was kind of, or actually Jeff told me about it. I did not watch the second half. I decided to get a good night's sleep. It wasn't a very exciting game, to be honest. But he told me that in the second half, HIMS had quite a commercial. And as I see today, it's quite controversial because they were advertising the knockoff. of Wigovi which is semaglutide that's the compound drug which you know they're really not supposed to be selling it doesn't have the same protection that an FDA you know regulated drug does like Wigovi and Zepbound do But I did see several Lilly ads. They're working on cancer also. A lot of efforts there. And I would think losing weight. Believe it or not, I think that probably improves your immune system a little bit. So anyways, Lilly had a good week last week. They reported earnings. The weight loss drugs, some of the biggest drugs of all time. and they could even be the biggest drugs of all time. Okay, when we come back, Major League Baseball is making a deal with the kind of under-the-radar stock that I want to talk about. One of our listeners pointed out, and it's an interesting story, and Rivian's got an interesting story here today. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show with Bill Gunderson. Who's ever heard of Moneyball? Well, we saw the movie Moneyball. I think Brad Pitt played the lead there. It's stats, okay? It's statistics. They've almost gotten to the point of being ridiculous. There was a time in my life, stats and baseball, I knew them all. All the stats of all the baseball players. I always had numbers in my head, whether it's NBA players, whether it's football, whether it's horse racing, whether it's blackjack. Statistics, numbers, the study of numbers. It's very important, and obviously it has a lot to do with what I do today with stocks. There's a company called Sport Radar, S-R-A-D. Where do you think Major League Baseball is getting all of these crazy stats that are out there right now? Sport Radar. MLB takes a stake in SRAD, S-R-A-D, further solidifying the partnership between the two organizations and supporting future growth opportunities. uh... statcast you've probably seen statcast and uh... the projections that it makes nowadays you see uh... players you see uh... coaches you see managers staring into ipads uh... looking at different stats and what not so anyways put s r a d on your radar It's a smaller company. This is not a big dividend payer by any means. No, it's a $6.5 billion company. It's actually headquartered in Switzerland. What do they know about baseball? I don't know. I guess they know something about stats. But it's been a pretty good growth company. It's got a very solid chart. SportRadar, S-R-A-D. Now, let's apply some stats here to McDonald's, okay? Here's how important stats are. If you turn McDonald's baseball card over, maybe on the front you've got the golden arches and some french fries and a milkshake. Maybe a Big Mac on the front of the baseball card. But on the back of the baseball card is everything you need to know about McDonald's as an investment for the most part. Over the last 10 years, which hasn't been bad, okay? They've had their ups and downs. An investment in McDonald's has delivered 15% per year over the last 10 years. Not every year. That's the compound annual return. If you take the price of McDonald's 10 years ago today and where it's at today, and you add in all of those dividends that they've paid, your total return has been 15%. But you could put that up against the S&P 500. It's 19.4%. I would say that the companies in the S&P 500 are growing faster on average than McDonald's is, and that probably is one of the biggest reasons why it's underperformed. But it's getting worse at McDonald's as growth slows down. Over the last five years, you've only gotten a 9.2% return, while the S&P has been 16%. McDonald's obviously is not growing as fast as a Chipotle or a Cava or some of the other restaurant stocks out there, some of the newer ones. McDonald's is slowing down into the single-digit, mid-single-digit growth. So you've gotten 9.2% per year versus 16% for the S&P. Over the last three years, we've only gotten 6%. Well, the market's been 11.3%. So you can see that the returns on McDonald's are diminishing. Over the last 12 months, McDonald's up 6%, S&P up 22%. Now, having said that, they did have a pretty good report. The stock's up 5% today. But if you look in the past, over the past 10 years, McDonald's is a C. It gets a grade of C. I grade on the curve. I compare all 5,010 companies in my database and grade on the curve. And McDonald's comes in as a C performer. Average, okay? Do you want to own average stocks in your portfolio? It's your choice. But I like McDonald's. It's a big name. I go there all the time. You've gotten average returns in the past. What about the future? Well, that's where the valuation comes in, okay? If we look at McDonald's and take a look at the... The next five years, the growth rate that's expected, if you look at the earnings where they're at now, and if you look at earnings expectations and you take them out over the next five years, extrapolate them out, You have a stock that does not have a lot of upside potential right now. In fact, it has 49.7. That's an F. That's an F potential. 50% is what you can expect to make over the next five years. I would say that's not bad. It's an F when I compare it and grade on the curve against the other stocks out there. I like companies that have 80% or more upside potential. That's my minimum. 49% is not going to cut it. So when you take a performance grade of C and you take a valuation grade of F, what do those two add up to, right? Not too good, all right? McDonald's comes in. Let's see where it's ranked right now. Probably is a hold somewhere in there, but not very good. I mean, if you've only got 20 spots on your roster in your Moneyball portfolio, are you going to take it? It's a weak hold. That's not good. It's ranked 1,936 out of 5,021. Moneyball. You're going to put a team on the field. You want the 20 best that you can find, the 25 best that you can find. McDonald's would not be one of those in my book. Okay, maybe your book's different. Maybe you've got a different way of looking at stocks. I'm just telling you how I look at stocks. You've got to have a strong past performance. You have to have a strong valuation with lots of upside potential. You've got to have way above average growth and growth prospects. good management, and a solid chart. That's why I call it Best Stocks. Now, we had 100 people sign up for our four-week trial last week. We are having so much fun. I'm going to keep doing it for a while. You can get a four-week trial through my daily alerts, the newsletter, the app, the whole inch and a lot at GundersenCapital.com. 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President Trump was cheered by the crowd at the Superdome in New Orleans. Taylor Swift Was booed by the same crowd. What Does that say about the cultural shift in America? Plus, was Kendrick Lamar’s performance a hit, or a dud?
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They're mad at the country. And that's what we've got to remember. I shared with you a personal note this morning about a longtime friend of mine who wants to sever, I guess, an aspect of our relationship because for this particular friend, gutting U.S. aid is a bridge too far.
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And I'm thinking, that's the hill you want to— That's the straw that breaks the camel's back of the friendship is the USAID funding cut?
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As I've said— Well, but I've said over and over again, it's an organization that has done a world of good. Yes. we can't ignore that i use the phrase don't throw the baby out with the bath water make sure that the life-saving aid provided by this non-charity remember it's not a charity there's a government agency you got to sustain that you got to keep that going nonetheless for this particular years-long friend of mine that's it uh we're on two different sides we're we're pulling and you know i
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I know. Hasn't he known that for years? Hasn't everybody who's fractured a relationship or a family, haven't they been aware of this? And I mentioned to the audience this morning, I'm noticing fresh waves of this. The election started it, and then everybody kind of got over it. Okay, he won. But now that Trump is in office and has been for three weeks today, right, they're noticing him actually doing things that everything that you and I love, the other side hates. That's kind of baked in. But some people hate it so much they've decided to destroy the love that they have for friends and family members. It is starting again.
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It is starting again, and it's profoundly sad. And I would point out, I hate the whataboutism, but the time that we could have done it to them was when leftists were burning down American cities over George Floyd, and they cheered it on. And you know what? We didn't say to them, well, you're dead to me. I'm done. We didn't do that to them. We typically don't do that to them.
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And we could. We could go to front. Because, Mike, you and I are both frontrunners. Proud to have liberal friends, occasional liberal family member. You know how easy it would be for us to get up in their face and say, you're okay with the killing of babies? You're okay with waves of illegal immigrants? You're okay with girls playing in boys, boys playing in girls sports? You favor those things? You are out of my life. You know how easy that would be? We don't do it because we know that's not what you do as a human being.
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You said earlier that it's so sad to see people fracture friendships and family over this. It's profound. Look, I admit, after I got this note from this year's long friend of mine, I'm not ashamed to admit it. I had a good cry. I don't like losing good people from my life.
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I also, because I know that I'm drawn to people who disagree with me. I like having people who disagree with me in my life. I like robust debate. I like learning from them and where they're coming from. That's important to me. And this is not the only one. And I think I'm a little unusual from maybe you. I'm going to go a little out on a limb here. You say we all have liberal friends. I think, I suspect I have more than maybe most or more than you do. I think I have a lot of people. Theater stuff and people I know that are just in a different universe from most sort of ordinary conservatives. And a lot of these people I find wonderful. They're kind in many cases. They're loving. In fact, the friend who really... hurt me with this email today is somebody who's always reached out to me over the holidays because he knows i lost my parents at christmas and knows about my my loss of denise and was is kind he's a good man he's a good dad he's a good father he's a good husband but they just you said it mark it breaks them it makes this this hatred they become completely irrational it seems to me And to a point where I hate to be mean here, but you say it, it makes smart, hatred makes smart people kind of dumb and makes nice people kind of mean. They just turn into something that they're not. And it does break my heart on so many levels. But hey, so be it. I hope that time will heal. Look, let's look at what Trump is, and again, for the record, just because this is fresh in my mind. I don't want the good things that USAID has done thrown out the window. Hopefully Marco Rubio and the State Department will sustain it. We'll make sure the kids don't die. We don't want people to die. We don't want people to starve. But the bloat and the profound mismanagement of taxpayer dollars cannot be ignored. And I'm sick of us trying to pretend. Of course that's what they're doing.
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Byron Donalds was on Real Time with Mar and did a great job of explaining this. This is so profound. And the government is so bloated, sometimes you've just got to go in and hit a massive pause button and then start from scratch and then see, okay, what should we be doing and what should we not?
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Mark, look at the penny story. Can I give you some fake news? And I have to blame President Trump a little bit for this. He gave a little bit of fake news. He said it cost two cents. to produce one penny. He was wrong. You want to know what the real number is? According to the New York Times, according to Axios, the actual cost, according to the U.S. Treasury, in fiscal year 2024, 3.69 cents.
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He undercut it.
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It costs almost four times a penny to produce a penny. Now, by the way, that's stupid. So why in the world do it? Oh, and now you're mad? He's taking on things large and small. He's taking, you know what's next? The Pentagon. He's going to look at the department. He's going to get rid of the Department of Education. You know what? That's why the Super Bowl stadium cheered yesterday. The change is real.
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Thank God he won.
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The change is real.
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Thank God he won. Thank God he won.
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And you know what? We're going to get through all this. We are. And we're going to have moments where we're frustrated and we're sad, but so be it.
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And let me take a minute with the folks watching on the stream and the folks who watch sometimes the replay that you do. If there's angst and if there's ill will and blah, blah, blah, let me offer something, if I may, to the Mike Gallagher audience as well as my own. to make everybody feel great, something that can truly unify, if anything can truly unify. And that's a trip you and I have made, one of my favorite trips for Food for the Poor. You went with me to Guatemala. It was magnificent to be with you. And we are taking a look at people in our hemisphere. Some poverty like America we'll never see. We should help people in our own country, of course. But a one-time gift of $100 at Food for the Poor will feed two kids for a year. So if I can ask everybody listening to both our shows to go to 660amtheanswer.com, click the Give Life banner. And if you don't have $100, you got $20, we'll take it. And we appreciate it so much. And you can do it at 660amtheanswer.com and click that Give Life banner or on the phone number 855-916-HOPE, 855-916-HOPE. Thank you guys all so very, very much for helping us out and helping the truly needy in our hemisphere.
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And to those who say that we conservatives are cold and cruel and we don't want to get, here's a perfect example of why they're wrong. You know, there's a perfect example of how hard you and I work for organizations like Food for the Poor. And I am so proud to stand with you. And I hope everybody listening today will go to 660amtheanswer.com and make a donation. And let's keep, hey, fighting the good fight. Good fight.
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