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In an intriguing dialogue, Josh and Justin delve into prevalent car buying challenges, focusing on the increase in vehicle prices and the conditions under which it is wise to invest in a new or used car. They shed light on numerous consumer stories and the strategies to safeguard against unplanned expenses and legal entanglements associated with emissions compliance. They underline the exciting comeback of financing incentives and discounts in the current market scene, making it an opportune moment for prospective buyers. As they guide listeners through the maze of modern auto shopping, they intertwine essential insights on maintenance practices, debunk common dealership myths, and consolidate the importance of planning and knowledge in car purchasing.
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SPEAKER 07 :
And we're back. It's Josh and Justin from Ridgeline Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive. And we'll go back into the question of the day. What is the worst accessory you've ever put on your car?
SPEAKER 04 :
Worst thing you got in that accessory aisle.
SPEAKER 07 :
Worst thing you ordered from J.C. Whitney.
SPEAKER 04 :
What was it? I kind of wanted to segue the last conversation of car buying and tariffs into a couple problems that we've seen some of our customers run into recently. I've got one customer that bought a Volvo XC90. Didn't pay very much for this vehicle. Paid $2,000 for this vehicle. Did not get an emissions test from the customer. and didn't know that he needed that, and then found out that he had a gas tank leak, and that gas tank leak was the same price as the car to repair. So make sure if we're buying cars from private parties that we are getting and passing a missions inspection. So I understand for some people that you only have $2,000, but you've still got to be able to register the vehicle and put plates on the vehicle.
SPEAKER 07 :
And drive the car down the road, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then we ran into another one that bought a vehicle from, I won't say the name, but a big national used car firm. Higher priced car, kind of in the mid-teens, $20,000. And this was a sports car. This vehicle had been tuned. Those bigger dealers do not pre-emissions their vehicles. They give you an Air Care Colorado coupon so that you can go get the emissions test. On that coupon, you have three business days to get that vehicle through emissions. Well, he did not because this vehicle was tuned and he had some check engine light stuff tuned out of it. It failed the emissions test. He tested it a week or two after he bought the vehicle. This company is not taking back the car. And now these tune shops are going away with all the EPA stuff.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Who's going to fix this car for him?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
So he's dead in the water with a loan on the car, can't get plates on it, and had to buy another car from us so that he could register a vehicle.
SPEAKER 07 :
A non-compliant car they're dealing with.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's not a lot of protections in Colorado for the consumer. Whether you're buying from a dealership, whether you're buying from a private party, I mean, 230 seconds on the tires.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great.
SPEAKER 04 :
The windshield cannot be cracked. All the seatbelts need to work. Passes emissions. Is there anything else that we need to do in Colorado to sell a car to somebody?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, other than that, you're the owner.
SPEAKER 04 :
Again, I know we've maybe beaten a dead horse, but we've gone over it. If you're buying a used vehicle, spend $200 or $300 to have one of the select auto care shops look this thing over. And it's probably going to need a couple things, and that's okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's a used car.
SPEAKER 04 :
It'll need some things.
SPEAKER 07 :
But then you know what you have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Get a baseline.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you got a baseline. You know there might be something that needs to be fixed right now, and then things that you can put off six months to a year.
SPEAKER 04 :
And if you've got a good mechanic, he can say, yeah, this is an okay car. You need to do this first, do this second. Maybe you get a little negotiation power with that inspection. Right. Maybe not. It all depends. It depends on the dealer that you're dealing with. But please, please, please get an inspection done on a used car before you purchase it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's the second most expensive thing you're going to buy in your lifetime. It's a car besides your house, so.
SPEAKER 04 :
And once you buy that car and they've given you an emissions test or you've gotten the emissions test, you're an owner.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, you are.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not going back.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, you know, we've seen it a few times where people, you know, they come to us after they bought the wrong car. And the wrong car has put them in a position in life that they're in trouble, you know, financially. And they're still stuck with that car. They gave it back and now they're having trouble because they gave the car back. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And whether or not the tariffs are going to increase the prices of new or used cars, we don't know yet. We're just riding the wave right now, too. What I can say is car prices are up 6.6% year over year. The vehicles that are most up are larger trucks. SUVs, luxury is the highest. Luxury vehicles are up over 8% year over year. The cars that have not increased in price are your commuter vehicles. So subcompact cars have gone up about 0.3%. So if you're looking for a subcompact car, those are still affordable. New car dealerships are sitting on a lot of inventory right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
They are.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if you're looking at something that's not, you know, a specialty vehicle, you know, like an SRT or, you know, something like that. Now's probably a good time to jump on board because there's some steep discounts. You're starting to see some finance incentives again that we didn't see post-COVID. You know, that 0%, 1.9%, 0.9%. That all went away. That is now back.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, it's been like almost five years it feels like since we've seen that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 04 :
So now's a good time, especially if you need to finance, you can get a good deal. You can get cheaper money than what we were able to get before. Or in lieu of the financing, if you're a cash buyer or you have your own finance company that you want to deal with, there's some pretty steep discounts on new vehicles right now. So now may be a time to jump on board and maybe pre-tariff if that is going to affect it. Right now you can get a discount.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the tariffs haven't affected anything yet. Don't let a dealer tell you that they have. They're going to try.
SPEAKER 07 :
They will.
SPEAKER 04 :
They're going to try to tell you that, oh, no, prices have increased because of tariffs. They have not increased yet.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
So don't let them play that game. Don't let them play that game at the parts store yet either.
SPEAKER 07 :
They've tried that too.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm not going to play the game with them yet. If we see that come up and next time we're on the air, we'll give you the insight into what we're seeing there. But do you agree now is probably the time to buy a new or used car if you're in the market for a car?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, if you need a car, now is the time to get one, you know, before the tariffs come on and the prices come up on it.
SPEAKER 04 :
They're begging to sell you something right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
They are. And, you know, that's the good thing with, you know, the dealer financing. They're beating whatever most banks are giving you on a loan.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, our average on a used car right now, interest rate, granted, we saw a little bit older, you know, vehicle than, than, you know, the new car dealerships are going to sell, but we're seeing customers leave 10, 11, 12% and first time buyers or younger buyers upwards of 21. I mean, almost, almost predatory loans. Um, but they, they've got to cover their risk analysis too. I mean, they don't come up with these, these numbers for nothing, but. Yeah, new car interest rates right now are screaming good if you're looking for something new.
SPEAKER 07 :
They are. Yeah, because they're able to write some of that money into the car, you know, on it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Plus you get your warranty. You do. I think you get maintenance packages now, even though they don't really want to do the oil changes very often, these 10,000 mile oil changes they want to do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, whatever they wrote the package at is what they're sticking with. I've seen it so many times.
SPEAKER 04 :
Take whatever the dealer is telling you for fluid maintenances and cut it in half.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, they all want to go 10,000 miles on it.
SPEAKER 04 :
The one thing we did see go away is the lifetime transmission fluid.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's starting to come back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's going away now that the transmissions are grenading. They're backpedaling on that. Subaru said that. Subaru was lifetime fluid on their CVT transmissions. And now they've changed it to it needs to be changed every 24,000 because of the problems they've had.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And that's where they were with their engines, too. They were, you know, 10,000 miles on their oil changes, and now they're like 7.5.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, they're backing those down now, too.
SPEAKER 07 :
They've backed those down, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
I remember Nissan was the same way. Nissan, when the CVT came out, they said it's a lifetime fluid. It's a sealed unit. You never service it. Well, now they've got remanufactured CVT transmissions on the shelf. $2,500? Right.
SPEAKER 1 :
$3,000.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, what's an average transmission cost?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 1 :
$5,000, $6,000, $7,000?
SPEAKER 04 :
It is. Yeah, they're selling them cheap to keep people happy because they're already having problems.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, they are. Yeah, all those CVTs from Nissan have been a lot of trouble.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nissan can't seem to sell anything other than an EV right now, too. Right. I think they're selling a lot of the Leafs. I think they're selling a lot of the Arias. But their other models... They're not selling them right now. They're hurting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, especially the stuff they make money on, you know, like the SUVs, the bigger SUVs and stuff like that. I don't see a whole lot of those out there running around right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if you're looking for a new car, I think now's probably the time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, exactly. Well, we're going to take a little break and we'll be right back.
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legacy automotive boulder where expertise meets excellence and we're back it's josh and justin with ridgeline auto brokers and legacy automotive here and uh we were talking to larry off the air and he had some good points about if you are broke down someplace how do you find a good shop to go to
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, you want to find someone reputable.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, you know, Larry was saying, you know, you can go to your local Napa, you know, parts store. They're all over the place. And go to a Napa Auto Care Center.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, all the Napa Auto Care Centers, a normal Napa Auto Care Center, you're getting a two-year, 24,000-mile warranty on whatever repair they do. And then they've got a gold program.
SPEAKER 07 :
They do. And that puts you due to three years, 36,000 miles. And if you're not able to get in the auto parts store, you can go to NapaAutoCare.com, and they'll point you to the nearest one. But the good thing is, I mean, we've even had it where people were out on vacation, and we put a good Napa part in it, but it didn't make it. You know, they got home and all that, but, you know, about a year later, all of a sudden, that water pump that we put in is leaking, and it's easy. Just call this number and go to your nearest Napa Auto Care, and it's taken care of.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nationwide warranty.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nationwide, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
So no matter where you're at in the nation, if you had a part installed at a Napa Auto Care center and that part fails, you go to another Napa Auto Care center wherever you're at, they're going to fix it parts and labor for free. No deductibles, no cost to the customer at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. That's it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Kind of stinks to be down for a little while, but usually we put those people as a priority.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
We always put road trip people as a priority. Our local customers, we put in loaner cars, so they're usually okay. But if you're on a road trip and you get stuck and... In Longmont, Fort Collins, Boulder, we're always happy to help get you on the road in an expedited time. BG also has the BG Fluid. They also have a Find-A-Shop. app on their website so you can type in your zip code your city and state and it will get you to the nearest you know bg site as well and if you're buying the bg products from a a bg retailer that comes with a warranty and guarantee as well it does So if you do a BG transmission service and the vehicles within, they have mileage stipulations. There's one program that's 50,000 miles or less, another program that's 75,000 miles or less. If that transmission fails, I think if you're under 50,000 miles, they'll give you up to $4,000 to replace that transmission. If you're 75,000 miles or less, they'll give you up to $2,000 to replace that transmission. Same thing with engine. If you're doing... an EPR MOA 44K service, and that engine detonates, you know, you have a breakdown because of an internally lubricated part, same thing. They're going to contribute to the cost of that repair.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
So I think a lot of people don't know that. I think a lot of shops...
SPEAKER 07 :
don't know that too that sell bg that there there are some guarantees from their products they believe in them that much they do and it's a good thing i mean it doesn't pay for the whole engine job or transmission job but it makes it where you know you can get back on the road and you're not out the full you know anymore engines are going through the roof we're doing ten thousand dollar engine jobs and transmissions are about there too so they're getting up they're getting up there so it's you know it helps cover you know especially at four thousand you're almost there on some of these transmissions.
SPEAKER 04 :
It feels like that 2020 COVID era where used parts, used engines, used transmissions, which a lot of us need to do, you know, when we lose a major powertrain component, that stuff went up and that stuff has not come back down.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it has not at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
If anything, it feels like it's, that is still increasing.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it seems like because what happened there, or at least what I saw was that, you know, in the past we had a lot of parts sitting in the junkyard. Well, during COVID we couldn't get parts, so we started buying a lot more stuff from the recyclers than we ever did just to put people back on the road because it was the only part to get you back on the road. So we've kind of picked the junkyards clean. And that's why they know that not everybody has these parts lying around, so they're going to get more money out of them all.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I don't think reuse and recycle is a bad thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's not.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if you can afford a new part, obviously that's probably going to be the best bang for your buck. But there's nothing wrong with reusing things that are still good. So recycling is an okay thing. Yeah, exactly. So it's a good thing. Getting back into our summer road trip thing, any advice with pets?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, it's always hard with the hot car thing, especially. And also make sure a lot of states, I know they don't worry about it as much, but if you're flying to Alaska or Hawaii, you're going to have to have a vet certificate, something that you're aware of with the horses. Most of the states around here don't monitor it when you're bringing pets across state lines. But if you are going to Alaska or Hawaii with your pets, you need to see the veterinarian and have them checked out before they go.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not just livestock.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's not just livestock. Technically, it's not.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if you're going across state lines, so even if you're taking a trip to Cheyenne.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you're taking Fluffy to Cheyenne, in theory, but nobody's monitoring it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Probably not.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's always the ones usually that I've seen the most is Alaska and Hawaii because you're flying in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, and I know in New Mexico and Arizona, livestock enforcement can stop you for no reason. They do not have to have a reason to stop you if you have an out-of-state plate. They can pull you over and make sure that you've got your vet certificates.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
So... folks out there that have that horses, make sure you're getting your vet certificate. A lot of times, if you're seeing your vet regularly, they're not going to charge you anyways, right? A lot of times, or they'll charge you a minimal amount, make sure you have that, or they will confiscate your livestock. They'll take them. So yeah, very, very important. And the frequent stops as well. You know, don't you, your dog needs to use the restroom.
SPEAKER 07 :
It does.
SPEAKER 04 :
Horses are only two or three hours. They need to get out. They need to walk. They can't be cooped up in there. Those trailers are hot. So I think that's another good thing, too. Take frequent stops for your animals.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And leaving your dogs or your kids in a hot car, like, come on.
SPEAKER 1 :
I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hopefully we don't need to talk about that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you don't want to sit in there either, so.
SPEAKER 04 :
Any advice on keeping kids entertained? I guess we've all got these iPods and no one reads a book anymore.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I think it's a little bit easier maybe than it used to be because they can all stare at the screen the whole time.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that's the world that we live in now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's not like when we were young playing Slugbug all the time.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I know we were talking about how the newer iPhones have the GPS, newer GPS systems where you can text. I do use an older phone. I use an iPhone mini just because I like the size of the iPhone mini. It fits in my running pack and my hiking pack very well. Well, I do use the Garmin inReach. The nice thing about the newer spots and the newer inReach is you used to not be able to text from those systems. Right. You used to just have preset messages, and sometimes you send those messages and it just scares a family member. Now with those devices, you can actually type a message into your phone and send that message off, and the services are fairly inexpensive. Right. So anyone that's doing road trips, motorcycle trips, hiking trips, they are a good device to have if you don't have the newer iPhones. I don't know what the reliability of the newer iPhones is, but...
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't either. I haven't really used mine that much in the backcountry because I have the inReach if I need it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you know the inReach works well. It does. I use it every other weekend. I send you messages. My wife messages. So the Garmin inReach is a... It's a safety backup. It's an emergency messenger. So if you get injured, you can send a notification to emergency services so they can get Flight for Life out to you, get law enforcement out to you, get search and rescue out to you. If you don't have such a major emergency, maybe you're running late. Maybe you told your wife you were going to be back by 2 p.m. It's past two. It's three. It's four. You don't want them calling search and rescue when you can just sit there and send them a message and say, hey, I'm running a little behind. I'm moving slow today, but everything is okay. So good stuff to have while we're in road trip season.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. That's coming handy.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is road trip season. It is road trip. I need to take a road trip. My wife is out on a road trip right now. We're working, but this isn't really work.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, this is fun.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is a lot more fun than work is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it is. But, yeah, being prepared is definitely a big part of the whole road trip thing. And like we were talking earlier, go over your gear before you hit the road.
SPEAKER 04 :
Know how to use the gear.
SPEAKER 07 :
Know how to use it because... This is when it's going to break down, when you're the furthest away from everybody. That guy named Murphy always shows up then.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's got a law or something like that?
SPEAKER 07 :
He does, yeah, a law.
SPEAKER 04 :
We have a lot of areas in our state that are beautiful. They're great to see, but you don't have... cell phone service in those areas no you don't so nice to have some backup plans nice to have emergency equipment make sure that you've got a spare tire make sure that spare tire is not expired i can't tell you how many spares that we see that are are dry rotted dry rotted or flat or I mean, what, tires need to be replaced seven years?
SPEAKER 07 :
Seven years is what? Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that the DOT limit?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's the date code on it, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's the limit. Maybe your tires still have tread, but they're past that seven-year mark. We should probably be replacing them.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, you know, you look at them and they're all dry rotted on the side and stuff like that, and the second you put them in the car, they blow out because they're not in good shape.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, how many cars do you see on the side of the road with a flat spare?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, with one donut and another donut that it needs. Yeah, all the time.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's always an Ultima.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is. All right, we'll take a little break on that one.
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And we're back. It's Josh and Justin with Ridgeline Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive here on this nice warm Saturday. Talking about cars and everything. And if you'd like to give us a call, our phone number is 303-477-5600. So give us a call.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we're getting into the last 25 minutes of the show here. So if you have any questions about buying cars, selling cars, maintaining your car, fixing your car, So we're here for you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we are.
SPEAKER 04 :
So happy to help. What about EVs? Can an EV be a road trip car? Are we there yet or are we just not there yet?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think we're getting to that point with some of them, you know, like the Nissan, not the Leaf. Where are we at with mileage on it? It's like 250 on the upper battery size.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that upper... I mean, if you're in weather like today and you're running the AC full blown and doing 75, those cars don't, they seem to lose a lot of, you know, range at higher speeds.
SPEAKER 07 :
Quickly, they do. Yeah, I mean, I've had that happen to me firsthand. You know, I was in a leaf and coming down from Fort Collins and back in the boulder. And, you know, it said I had 100 miles. And by the time I turned on the highway 52, I was down to 300. It gets scary. It gets scary real quick. You start to panic. When you're moving one mile and watching three or four miles drop off its range, then you know you're in trouble.
SPEAKER 04 :
If I wanted to take a trip from the Denver area to Moab in a 200-range vehicle... Is that even possible? Are you going to run into a situation where you try to go to a charging station and that charging station is full of cars?
SPEAKER 07 :
And the scary thing is it's up because, you know, they've had a lot of thefts at the charging stations of the cables because the cables have a lot of copper and a lot of expensive metals.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, they're cutting them off.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're cutting them off and stealing them. So, you know, I know there are some charging stations kind of in the middle of nowhere. But when you get there, it's not like gas stations where we have, you know, a plethora of them. You know, it's kind of still like the early days where you never knew the gas cars. If there's a gas station there, it's kind of the same thing with the EVs. It's like you've got to make sure that before you leave one EV charging station that, you know, check the app and make sure the other one's up and functioning before you get there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's not like searching for a gas station either. I mean, you've got all these, you know, EV chargers are privately owned.
SPEAKER 07 :
Most of them, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you have to have their app. So what are you going to do? Download Electrify America, download the Tesla app.
SPEAKER 07 :
ChargePoint and Tesla and all those and kind of go through them all. I haven't found a good way yet. Maybe there is. If somebody knows, let me know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Maybe there's an app that has all of them.
SPEAKER 07 :
All of them combined.
SPEAKER 04 :
Built in together.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
I've tried the Google app. Google is not very reliable when it comes to EV charging stations.
SPEAKER 07 :
Real hit and miss for me every time I've tried that, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
I like the EV thing. I think there's a place for it. You know, we sell some EV cars. I like driving them because when you're operating a used car dealership, it feels like you're in a different car every day and you're at the gas station all the time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
So sometimes it's nice to just jump in an EV for the week and drive it home.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Drive it back to work and be able to skip the gas station.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and I think they're great for driving home and driving back to work. I think neither one of us are really in a hurry to go on a road trip with the family in an EV.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's just the fear in the back of the head.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is because, you know, you've got the kids and the wife and the dog, and all of a sudden the charging station is down or you miscalculated the car miscalculator. You miscalculated the distance between there, and you're just kind of stuck on the side of the road with everybody.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm going to put my Harbor Freight predator generator in the back of the Leaf. That'd look funny, huh?
SPEAKER 07 :
You need to get a little trail. Get a teardrop. A little trailer. A little teardrop trailer with your Harbor Freight Predator generator and a gas tank and drive around with that and see.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the plug-in hybrid thing is cool, but the range is still 30 miles. That's about it. On the electric system before it goes into hybrid mode.
SPEAKER 07 :
But that is the good part of it, though, too, is usually, you know, what's your commute? You're right. You can charge it up at home, and you most maybe work as a charger, too. Usually about 20 or 30 miles to work. Yeah, you can do your daily commutes on all electric, but then when you want to go do Mosquito Pass, and you're in Leadville, and you've run out of, you know, your battery charge... You don't have to go and charge there and fight all the Mach-Es and Teslas for the three charging stations on the main drag in Leadville. You can just go to the gas station and fill it up and then go do Mosquito Pass or whatever you want to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm sure you have the answer to this question. Why can we make a fully electric vehicle go 250, but we can't make the plug-in hybrid...
SPEAKER 07 :
do 100 or two is it is it lack of space it's a lack of space is it a weight thing yeah because then we make it a heavier vehicle it's it's all battery size i mean we could fill put the same batteries in there but we're now we have the weight from the ice you know the the gas engine plus the the batteries if we put a full ev size battery it would be a very heavy vehicle so they kind of you know put a smaller battery in there to be able to let you have the hybrid and to have the a little bit of ev range in there but without the full weight or the sheer space of i mean you've seen when we've done batteries and you've helped doing it the size of the battery like most of the time there's a whole floor pan of a car yeah no they they are large they are very cumbersome to uh have to replace and heavy and and all that that's for sure so maybe maybe we're still a ways away from that uh
SPEAKER 04 :
being our road trip car or long distance car, but for commuting back and forth to work, they seem to be good. I have an older Nissan Leaf that me and my wife have. We bought this thing for $5,000. It goes 70 or 80 miles, which is all we need for the day. And we keep the miles off of the diesel truck. Yeah. The maintenance on the diesel truck is so high, it's nice to just be able to jump in the leaf, take that to work instead.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the diesel fuel bill and all that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, the diesel fuel bill. I'm going to get a big one of those today while my wife is driving to Alamosa. You are. I'm not even going to look. I wouldn't. I want to see what it's going to be.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, better not to know on that one. But, you know, the EVs are changing, it feels like, at light speed, you know. But the battery technology, I mean, look at first-gen Priuses and Hondas, how often the batteries weren't lasting, basically. And now we're getting well over 100,000, 150,000 miles on most of these batteries.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now they're talking about those batteries outlasting an ICE engine. They're saying we are right at that tipping point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, we are.
SPEAKER 04 :
So hard to believe.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's just the amount of tires you've got to put on it. All right, we'll go to Buck and Cheyenne. Good morning, Buck.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good morning. I'm kind of enjoying you guys this morning. It's hotter than I appreciate outside. Even in Cheyenne, we're getting up close to 90, and I'm a little more cold-blooded than that. Not much wind, but it's not a bad day, but hotter than I like, but I kind of wanted to have you guys discuss transmission changes. So to get my transmission oil changed where you could go to a place where you could hook it into the cooler line. And as they pumped the old came out, the new went in. So we got a complete change. Now they don't want to do that. They just want to stick it down in the dipstick hole and suck what's there that's out. To me, that doesn't get into your converter at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
It doesn't, no. That's like kind of doing the same as a drain and fill when you do that. The problem is that we're having is a lot of the transmissions have thermostats in them. And so it's become harder to do a flush on it because there's a thermostat in the actual transmission cooler line. So they want the transmission to kind of come up to its happy temperature. Then the thermostat opens, and then it starts going through the cooler. And I think we have all the tools to do that. It's kind of a pain because we have to get into what we call the thermostat block and actually put different adapters. And every manufacturer seems like they've built a different adapter for every one of these. But we still do it because I believe in the flush because then we're able to get all the old fluid out of it and not just, you know, three-quarters, if that, of the fluid out. Because, you know, if you don't do a flush, you're never going to get all the fluid out of the transfer case and all the other passages in there. You're just going to get what's sitting in the bottom of the pan. And if you do a dipstick service, that's what you're getting, what's in the bottom of the pan.
SPEAKER 04 :
What kind of a vehicle, Buck? I just, I've got... Hope we're losing you, Buck.
SPEAKER 07 :
But yeah, that... Can you repeat that?
SPEAKER 05 :
We're back to a 95 F-250 with a 7.3 diesel. Maybe even got it. My grandkids got some a little older than that. But I went to the local quick change, which used to have the exchanger in it. And they just wanted to suck it out and replace it, and I was not too keen on that. I'm sure there would be in it, but most of you guys with Drive Radio, most of your shops would have the ability to do the flush or whatever you want to call it, exchange, probably be a little more higher priced than Going to the Quickie Lube or whatever, we got one now in Cheyenne that you sit in their car and they supposedly change your engine oil in five minutes. I can't believe that even gives time to drain well.
SPEAKER 07 :
It doesn't. No, I don't really recommend that. Yeah, but everybody in our group, I know pretty much everybody except for, I think, one. Yeah, we all have the flush machines and the top-of-the-line flush machines, too, that can handle the thermostats. All the fittings and everything else on it. I think that's the only way to do it right. Sucking it out through the fill tube just is not a good service. But that's why they have guys with not a whole lot of training. They don't have to spend a lot of money on the machine or training or having a lift to even get it up because it does. It takes a while for us to get in there and get past that thermostat to do a proper flush on this thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we have these machines for other fluids, too. Oh, we do, yeah. We've got the machines for your brake fluid, your power steering fluid, your cooling system, where we can properly flush all of those systems, not just the transmission fluid.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mm-hmm. I also, well, I got a 2016 Taurus all-wheel drive cop car, and I had it down at Fort Collins, too. them and change the fluids and the guy said, there's one part, I don't know, there's a transfer case or something in that that did not have a drain plug in it. I was wondering at some stage maybe drilling and tapping it, I'd probably have to do it twice and putting a drain or I guess you could tap it high enough maybe that you could stick a hose in and suck it out. What are your thoughts about that?
SPEAKER 07 :
We have a machine that does actually suck a lot of those fluids out of differentials and stuff like that because a lot of times they don't even have a drain plug or even a spot to put them because if you look at them the way they're cast, there's just no flat spot for them to put a drain plug in these things. So we have a device that can actually go in there and pull all the fluid out of it because it has a hose and is able to suck down in there and get all of it out of there. Usually it's on the Fords, it's their transfer cases, or what they call the PTO. It's kind of, it is the same thing as a transfer case. They just call it a PTO, and it only has a fill plug in it. It doesn't really have a drain plug. So that's why we have a special machine just to get in there and effectively get that fluid out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. The RS was essentially designed as a front-wheel drive car.
SPEAKER 07 :
drive car and then they decided to make it an all-wheel drive so that would be what what you'd call a pto case yep it is so it basically has a front wheel drive transmission and then kind of coming off what would be the shaft going over to the right side wheel they took some they put a pto right there behind the engine and that sends the force back to the rear differential to make it all-wheel drive
SPEAKER 05 :
And someplace in there they've got to have a cushion, a viscous cushion or something similar, or do they have where they can shift it? The power from front to rear.
SPEAKER 07 :
They do, yeah. And the rear diff on that, when they bought Volvo, they took Volvo's technology. And even the earlier ones, it even still says Volvo on the back. And they used Volvo's all-wheel drive technology. They used kind of, it's a viscous, but electric clutch style viscous in the back. So they used an electric clutch back there to engage and disengage the four-wheel drive. But it works basically the same as a viscous coupling.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. Okay, well, thanks a lot. I enjoyed you guys this morning, so I gave John a break, but you guys did it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thank you very much.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good for me.
SPEAKER 07 :
You have a good day, and we're going to go to break real quick.
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SPEAKER 07 :
And we're back. It's Josh and Justin from Ridgeline Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive, and we're going to go to Don down in Westcliff. Good afternoon, Don.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 07 :
How's the wet valley today?
SPEAKER 06 :
Hi there. Yeah, I've got a question for you. I've got a 2015 GMC Canyon, and I just hit 127,000 miles on it, and I had my brakes replaced probably a year ago. Well, six months after that, the rotor started to warp pretty bad, so they had to replace them again. And I've noticed already probably four months into the brake rotor change that they're doing it again. Would it be anything in the front end that would be causing that or just bad brake rotors? They get their parts from CarQuest, and I'm not sure if that's good or bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it could be. That's what they use. When the original ones came off, were they warped? When the original brakes from GM, were they warped? Do you remember?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I bought the truck probably six years ago. Okay. And this is the first time I've had a brake serviced on this. It was about a little over a year ago. Okay. And I'm assuming it was the same one because they were good, but then they started getting warping, so they replaced them. And the shop up here is... We don't have any Napa shops anywhere close to me, and the shop I have is pretty good. You know, I went to Arvada West Auto for 20 years, and this here is pretty close to what they used to do for me, but they don't use Napa parts. Okay. They use CarQuest, and I was wondering if CarQuest had a bad... brake rotors or if there's something else in the front end of the truck that might be causing it to do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I would hope after it came in with the rotors roped the second time that they would make sure that, you know, everything's tight and also do a run out on the hub, you know, to make sure that the the hub one is clean and that it doesn't have excessive run out. But we also do see, you know, they get different runs at different times. I've had pretty much every brake component manufacturer have a set of rotors where they're, they didn't have a good metallurgy at the time and they do warp a little too quick. And then make sure they're putting, you know, there's at least three different lines with pretty much every manufacturer. Make sure they're putting, you know, the better rotors on there is what I'd make sure they would.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I'm hoping they do. They seem like the owner, I know him personally, he seemed like a pretty genuine person that would not try to put the cheap stuff on there. He does really good stuff. But yeah, and I live, if you're familiar with Westcliff, it's about 60 miles west of Pueblo. And I go down the mountain, which is about 30 miles, but I use the manual shift a lot. I don't use my brakes very hard, but they work anyway. And I'm not sure what to do about that other than just take them back and let them do it again. But then I've got to pay for labor.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, they don't do a full warranty on that? Yeah. If it's, you know, within their warranty, I would think they would be not having to worry about the labor. But, you know, I would make sure... Usually if I have, you know, a set of rotors come back the second time, you know, the first time back we do go through the suspension and go through, you know, making sure the hubs are straight and that everything's clean and all that. And if it comes back the second time, I usually just... buy from somebody else or change grades or make sure you know it's a different manufacturer run i don't just keep you know throwing the same part at it hoping for a better result yeah that's super super clean hub too i mean that hub needs to be cleaned off it does really well and then also the torque of the lug nuts needs to also be per the manufacturer's specification as well Okay. And, you know, you guys have a lot of dirt roads down there, so make sure they're getting that thing cleaned.
SPEAKER 06 :
I live on a dirt road down here. I live on one. I live out west of Westcliff, or north, about six miles.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's still, you know, and I go to the car wash as often as I can and wash them up really good. But with that, with the spray. And we do have a Napa dealer in here, and I tried to tell him, I'll take Napa and I'll pay the extra parts, but they wouldn't put them on him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, really?
SPEAKER 06 :
Maybe I'll offer them a little more this time, but don't give me Napa rotors and see if that makes a difference. I bet it's a parts issue, most likely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, well, I'll just pass along what you just told me and see what they tell me, and we'll go from there, and hopefully they'll fix it. But, yeah, like I said, that labor is a couple hundred dollars of labor for putting those back on there again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and especially now that it looks like the third time back on this, we need to make some sort of change. So I would think try and see if they'll buy from Napa or if they got another source just besides CarQuest. I mean, the dealership, there's a lot of – I mean, I know it's a run into Pueblo, but maybe it's worth that run into Pueblo to get some rotors from GMC for that thing too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I agree. And I'm not sure where they get them at. I thought maybe Canyon City, because no matter where you go, it's 55 miles where you go to Pueblo, Canyon City, or Salida. So I don't know where they get them at, but it is CarQuest. And I told them I'd rather have Napa, but they deal with CarQuest. So I can't fight them on that. I'll just have to see what I can do. And there's the only shop in town that I can do that with.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, good luck, Don. We're at the top of the hour, so we've got to end this. But best of luck to you on your breaks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thank you. All right, gentlemen. Good show. Thank you. Thank you. And that's it for us, KLZ 560. Thank you, Justin, for coming in.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll see you Monday.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'll see you Monday.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 12 :
so that he could register a vehicle.
SPEAKER 09 :
A non-compliant car he's dealing with.
SPEAKER 12 :
There's not a lot of protections in Colorado for the consumer. Whether you're buying from a dealership, whether you're buying from a private party, I mean, 230 seconds on the tires, the windshield cannot be cracked, all the seat belts need to work, passes emissions, Is there anything else that we need to do in Colorado to sell a car to somebody?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, other than that, you're the owner.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, again, I know we've maybe beaten a dead horse, but we've gone over it. If you're buying a used vehicle, spend $200 or $300 to have one of the select auto care shops look this thing over. And it's probably going to need a couple things, and that's okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's a used car.
SPEAKER 12 :
It'll need some things.
SPEAKER 09 :
But then you know what you have.
SPEAKER 12 :
get a baseline.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. You got a baseline, you know, there might be something that needs to be fixed right now. And then things that you can put off six months to a year.
SPEAKER 12 :
And if you've got a good mechanic, he can say, yeah, this is an okay car. You need to do this first, do this second. Maybe you get a little negotiation power with that inspection. Right. Maybe not. It all depends. It depends on the dealer that you're dealing with. But please, please, please get an inspection done on a used car before you purchase it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's the second most expensive thing you're going to buy in your lifetime. It's a car besides your house, so.
SPEAKER 12 :
And once you buy that car and they've given you an emissions test or you've gotten the emissions test, you're an owner.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep, you are.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's not going back.
SPEAKER 09 :
And, you know, we've seen it a few times where people, you know, they come to us after they bought the wrong car. And the wrong car has put them in a position in life that they're in trouble, you know, financially. And they're still stuck with that car. They gave it back. And now they're having trouble because they gave the car back. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
And whether or not the tariffs are going to increase the prices of new or used cars, we don't know yet. We're just riding the wave right now, too. What I can say is car prices are up 6.6% year over year. The vehicles that are most up are larger trucks. SUVs, luxury is the highest. Luxury vehicles are up over 8% year over year. The cars that have not increased in price are your commuter vehicles. So subcompact cars have gone up about 0.3%. So if you're looking for a subcompact car, those are still affordable. New car dealerships are sitting on a lot of inventory right now.
SPEAKER 10 :
They are.
SPEAKER 12 :
So if you're looking at something that's not, you know, a specialty vehicle, you know, like an SRT or, you know, something like that. Now's probably a good time to jump on board because there's some steep discounts. You're starting to see some finance incentives again that we didn't see post-COVID. You know, that 0%, 1.9%, 0.9%. That all went away. That is now back.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's been like almost five years, it feels like, since we've seen that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 12 :
So now's a good time, especially if you need to finance. You can get a good deal. You can get cheaper money than what we were able to get before. Or in lieu of the financing, if you're a cash buyer or you have your own finance company that you want to deal with, there's some pretty steep discounts on new vehicles right now. So now may be a time to jump on board and maybe pre-tariff if that is going to affect it. Right now you can get a discount.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
and the tariffs haven't affected anything yet, don't let a dealer tell you that they have. They're going to try.
SPEAKER 08 :
They will.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're going to try to tell you that, oh, no, prices have increased because of tariffs. They have not increased yet.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
So don't let them play that game. Don't let them play that game at the parts store yet either.
SPEAKER 09 :
They've tried that too.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm not going to play the game with them yet. If we see that come up and next time we're on the air, we'll give you the insight into what we're seeing there. Do you agree? Now is probably the time to buy a new or used car if you're in the market for a car.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, if you need a car, now is the time to get one before the tariffs come on and the prices come up on it.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're begging to sell you something right now.
SPEAKER 09 :
They are, and that's the good thing with the dealer financing. They're beating whatever most banks are giving you on a loan.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, our average on a used car right now, interest rate, granted, we sell a little bit older vehicle than the new car dealerships are going to sell. But we're seeing customers leave 10%, 11%, 12%. First-time buyers or younger buyers upwards of 21%. I mean, almost predatory loans. But they've got to cover their risk analysis, too. I mean, they don't come up with these numbers for nothing. But, yeah, new car interest rates right now are screaming good if you're looking for something new.
SPEAKER 09 :
They are. Yeah, because they're able to write some of that money into the car, you know, on it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Plus you get your warranty.
SPEAKER 09 :
You do.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think you get maintenance packages now, even though they don't really want to do the oil changes very often, these 10,000-mile oil changes they want to do.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, whatever they wrote the package at is what they're sticking with. I've seen it so many times.
SPEAKER 12 :
Take whatever the dealer is telling you for fluid maintenances and cut it in half.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah, they all want to go 10,000 miles on it. Oh.
SPEAKER 12 :
The one thing we did see go away is the lifetime transmission fluid.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's starting to come back.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that's going away now that the transmissions are grenading. They're backpedaling on that. Subaru said that. Subaru was lifetime fluid on their CVT transmissions. And now they've changed it to it needs to be changed every 24,000 because of the problems they've had.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And that's where they were with their engines, too. They were 10,000 miles on their oil changes, and now they're like 7.5.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, they're backing those down now, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
They've backed those down, too.
SPEAKER 12 :
I remember Nissan was the same way. Nissan, when the CVT came out, they said it's a lifetime fluid. It's a sealed unit. You never service it. Well, now they've got remanufactured CVT transmissions on the shelf. $2,500? Right.
SPEAKER 1 :
$3,000.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, what's an average transmission cost?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 1 :
$5,000, $6,000, $7,000?
SPEAKER 12 :
It is. Yeah, they're selling them cheap to keep people happy because they're already having problems.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, they are. Yeah, all those CVTs from Nissan have been a lot of trouble.
SPEAKER 12 :
Nissan can't seem to sell anything other than an EV right now, too. Right. I think they're selling a lot of the Leafs. I think they're selling a lot of the Arias. But their other models... They're not selling them right now. They're hurting.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, especially the stuff they make money on, like the SUVs, the bigger SUVs and stuff like that. I don't see a whole lot of those out there running around right now.
SPEAKER 12 :
So if you're looking for a new car, I think now's probably the time.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep, exactly. Well, we're going to take a little break, and we'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 09 :
And we're back. It's Josh and Justin with Ridgeline Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive here. And we were talking to Larry off the air, and he had some good points about if you are broke down someplace, how do you find a good shop to go to?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I mean, you want to find someone reputable.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, you know, Larry was saying, you know, you can go to your local Napa, you know, parts store. They're all over the place. And go to a Napa Auto Care Center.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
All the Napa Auto Care Centers, a normal Napa Auto Care Center, you're getting a two-year, 24,000-mile warranty on whatever repair they do. And then they've got a gold program.
SPEAKER 09 :
They do. And that puts you due to three years, 36,000 miles. And, you know, if you're not able to get in the auto parts store, you know, you can go to NapaAutoCare.com, and they'll point you to the nearest one. But the good thing is, I mean, we've even had it where people were out on vacation, and we put a good Napa part in it, but it didn't make it. You know, they got home and all that, but, you know, about a year later, all of a sudden, that water pump that we put in is leaking, and it's easy. Just call this number and go to your nearest Napa Auto Care, and it's taken care of. Yep.
SPEAKER 12 :
Nationwide warranty.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nationwide, exactly.
SPEAKER 12 :
So no matter where you're at in the nation, if you had a part installed at a Napa Auto Care Center and that part fails, you go to another Napa Auto Care Center, wherever you're at, they're going to fix it, parts and labor for free. No deductibles, no cost to the customer at all.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, that's it.
SPEAKER 12 :
It kind of stinks to be down for a little while, but usually we put those people as a priority. We always put road trip people as a priority. Our local customers, we put in loaner cars, so they're usually okay. But if you're on a road trip and you get stuck and In Longmont, Fort Collins, Boulder, we're always happy to help get you on the road in an expedited time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
So BG also has the BG Fluid. They also have a Find-A-Shop. app on their website so you can type in your zip code your city and state and it will get you to the nearest you know bg site as well and if you're buying the bg products from a a bg retailer that comes with a warranty and guarantee as well it does So if you do a BG transmission service and the vehicles within, they have mileage stipulations. There's one program that's 50,000 miles or less, another program that's 75,000 miles or less. If that transmission fails, I think if you're under 50,000 miles, they'll give you up to $4,000 to replace that transmission. If you're 75,000 miles or less, they'll give you up to $2,000 to replace that transmission. Same thing with engine. If you're doing... an EPR MOA 44K service, and that engine detonates, you know, you have a breakdown because of an internally lubricated part, same thing. They're going to contribute to the cost of that repair.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
So I think a lot of people don't know that. I think a lot of shops...
SPEAKER 09 :
don't know that too that sell bg that there there are some guarantees from their products they believe in them that much they do and it's a good thing i mean it doesn't pay for the whole engine job or transmission job but it makes it where you know you can get back on the road and you're not out the full you know anymore engines are going through the roof we're doing ten thousand dollar engine jobs and transmissions are about there too so they're getting up they're getting up there so it's you know it helps cover you know especially at four thousand you're
SPEAKER 12 :
almost there on some of these transmissions it feels like that that 2020 covid era where used parts used engines used transmissions which a lot of us need to do you know when we lose a major powertrain component that stuff went up and that stuff has not come back down no it has not at all if anything it feels like it's that is still increasing
SPEAKER 09 :
And it seems like because what happened there, or at least what I saw was that, you know, in the past we had a lot of parts sitting in the junkyard. Well, during COVID we couldn't get parts, so we started buying a lot more stuff from the recyclers than we ever did just to put people back on the road because it was the only part to get you back on the road. So we've kind of picked the junkyards clean. And that's why they know that not everybody has these parts lying around, so they're going to get more money out of them all.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I don't think reuse and recycle is a bad thing.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, it's not.
SPEAKER 12 :
So if you can afford a new part, obviously that's probably going to be the best bang for your buck. But there's nothing wrong with reusing things that are still good. So recycling is an okay thing. Yeah, exactly. So it's a good thing. Getting back into our summer road trip thing, any advice with pets?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, it's always hard, you know, with the hot car thing, especially, you know, so, and also make sure a lot of states, I know they don't worry about as much, but if you're flying to Alaska or Hawaii, you're going to have to have a vet certificate, something that you're aware with, with the horses. Most of the states around here don't monitor it when you're bringing states or pets across state lines. But if you are going to Alaska or Hawaii with your pets, you need to see the veterinarian and have them checked out before they go.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's not just livestock.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's not just livestock. Technically, it's not.
SPEAKER 12 :
So if you're going across the state line, so even if you're taking a trip to Cheyenne.
SPEAKER 09 :
If you're taking Fluffy to Cheyenne, in theory, but nobody's monitoring it. Probably not. No, it's always the ones usually that I've seen the most is Alaska and Hawaii because you're flying in.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, I know in New Mexico and Arizona, livestock enforcement can stop you for no reason. They do not have to have a reason to stop you if you have an out-of-state plate. They can pull you over and make sure that you've got your vet certificates.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
So... folks out there that have that horses, make sure you're getting your vet certificate. A lot of times, if you're seeing your vet regularly, they're not going to charge you anyways, right? A lot of times, or they'll charge you a minimal amount, make sure you have that, or they will confiscate your livestock. They'll take them. So yeah, very, very important. And the frequent stops as well. You know, don't you, your dog needs to use the restroom.
SPEAKER 09 :
It does.
SPEAKER 12 :
Horses are only two or three hours. They need to get out. They need to walk. They can't be cooped up in there. Those trailers are hot. So I think that's another good thing, too. Take frequent stops for your animals.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And leaving your dogs or your kids in a hot car, like, come on.
SPEAKER 1 :
I know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hopefully we don't need to talk about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you don't want to sit in there either.
SPEAKER 12 :
Any advice on keeping kids entertained? I guess we've all got these iPods and no one reads a book anymore.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I think it's a little bit easier maybe than it used to be because they can all stare at the screen the whole time.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think that's the world that we live in now.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's not like when we were young playing Slugbug all the time.
SPEAKER 12 :
I know we were talking about how the newer iPhones have the newer GPS systems where you can text. I do use an older phone. I use an iPhone Mini just because I like the size of the iPhone Mini. It fits in my running pack and my hiking pack very well. Well, I do use the Garmin inReach. The nice thing about the newer spots and the newer inReach is you used to not be able to text from those systems.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
You used to just have preset messages. And sometimes you send those messages and it just scares a family member. Now with those devices, you can actually type a message into your phone and send that message off. And the services are fairly inexpensive. Right. So anyone that's doing road trips, motorcycle trips, hiking trips, they are a good device to have if you don't have the newer iPhones. I don't know what the reliability of the newer iPhones is.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't either. I haven't really used mine that much in the backcountry because I have the inReach if I need it.
SPEAKER 12 :
And you know that inReach works well.
SPEAKER 09 :
It does.
SPEAKER 12 :
I use it every other weekend. I send you messages. My wife messages. So the Garmin inReach is a It's a safety backup. It's an emergency messenger. So if you get injured, you can send a notification to emergency services so they can get Flight for Life out to you, get law enforcement out to you, get search and rescue out to you. If you don't have such a major emergency, maybe you're running late. Maybe you told your wife you were going to be back by 2 p.m. It's past two. It's three. It's four. You don't want them calling search and rescue when you can just sit there and send them a message and say, hey, I'm running a little behind. I'm moving slow today, but everything is okay. So good stuff to have while we're in road trip season.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. If that's coming handy.
SPEAKER 12 :
It is road trip season. It is road trip. I need to take a road trip. My wife is out on a road trip right now. We're working, but this isn't really work.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, this is fun.
SPEAKER 12 :
This is a lot more fun than work is.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it is. But yeah, being prepared is definitely a big part of the whole road trip thing. And like we were talking earlier, go over your gear before you hit the road. Know how to use the gear. Know how to use it, because... This is when it's going to break down, when you're the furthest away from everybody. That guy named Murphy always shows up then.
SPEAKER 12 :
He's got a law or something like that?
SPEAKER 09 :
He does, yeah, a law.
SPEAKER 12 :
We have a lot of areas in our state that are beautiful. They're great to see, but you don't have... cell phone service in those areas no you don't so nice to have some backup plans nice to have emergency equipment make sure that you've got a spare tire make sure that spare tire is not expired i can't tell you how many spares that we see that are are dry rotted dry rotted or flat or I mean, what, tires need to be replaced seven years?
SPEAKER 09 :
Seven years is what, yeah. Is that the DOT limit? That's the limit.
SPEAKER 12 :
Maybe your tires still have tread, but they're past that seven-year mark. We should probably be replacing them.
SPEAKER 09 :
And, you know, you look at them and they're all dry rotted on the side and stuff like that, and the second you put them in the car, they blow out because they're not in good shape.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, how many cars do you see on the side of the road with a flat spare?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, with one donut and another donut that it needs. Yeah, all the time.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's always an Ultima.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is. All right, we'll take a little break on that one.
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And we're back. It's Josh and Justin with Ridgeline Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive here on this nice warm Saturday. Talking about cars and everything. And if you'd like to give us a call, our phone number is 303-477-5600. So give us a call.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we're getting into the last 25 minutes of the show here. So if you have any questions about buying cars, selling cars, maintaining your car, fixing your car... we're here for you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, we are.
SPEAKER 12 :
So happy to help. What about EVs? Can an EV be a road trip car? Are we there yet or are we just not there yet?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think we're getting to that point with some of them, you know, like the Nissan, not the Leaf. Where are we at with mileage on it? It's like 250 on the upper battery size. And that upper...
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, if you're in weather like today and you're running the AC full blown and doing 75, those cars don't, they seem to lose a lot of, you know, range at higher speeds.
SPEAKER 09 :
Quickly, they do. Yeah, I mean, I've had that happen to me firsthand. You know, I was in a leaf and coming down from Fort Collins and back in the boulder. And, you know, it said I had 100 miles. And by the time I turned on the highway 52, I was down to 300. It gets scary. It gets scary real quick. You start to panic. When you're moving one mile and watching three or four miles drop off its range, then you know you're in trouble.
SPEAKER 12 :
If I wanted to take a trip from the Denver area to Moab in a 200-range vehicle, Is that even possible? Are you going to run into a situation where you try to go to a charging station and that charging station is full of cars?
SPEAKER 09 :
And the scary thing is it's up because they've had a lot of thefts at the charging stations of the cables because the cables have a lot of copper and a lot of expensive metals.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, they're cutting them off.
SPEAKER 09 :
They're cutting them off and stealing them. So I know there are some charging stations kind of in the middle of nowhere. But when you get there, it's not like gas stations where we have a plethora of them. You know, it's kind of still like the early days where you never knew the gas cars. If there's a gas station there, it's kind of the same thing with the EVs. It's like you've got to make sure that before you leave one EV charging station that, you know, check the app and make sure the other one's up and functioning before you get there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it's not like searching for a gas station either. I mean, you've got all these, you know, EV chargers are privately owned.
SPEAKER 09 :
Most of them, yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
So you have to have their app. So what are you going to do? Download Electrify America, download the Tesla app.
SPEAKER 09 :
ChargePoint and Tesla and all those and kind of go through them all. I haven't found a good way yet. Maybe there is. If somebody knows, let me know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Maybe there's an app that has all of them.
SPEAKER 09 :
All of them combined.
SPEAKER 12 :
Built in together.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
I've tried the Google. Google is not very reliable when it comes to EV charging stations.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's been a real hit and miss for me every time I've tried that too.
SPEAKER 12 :
I like the EV thing. I think there's a place for it. You know, we sell some EV cars. I like, you know, driving them because when you're operating a used car dealership, it feels like you're in a different car every day and you're at the gas station all the time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
So sometimes it's nice to just jump in an EV for the week and drive it home. Yep. Drive it back to work and be able to skip the gas station.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and I think they're great for driving home and driving back to work. I think neither one of us are really in a hurry to go on a road trip with the family in an EV.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's just the fear in the back of the head.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is because, you know, you've got the kids and the wife and the dog, and all of a sudden the charging station is down or you miscalculated the car miscalculator. You miscalculated the distance between there, and you're just kind of stuck on the side of the road with everybody.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm going to put my Harbor Freight predator generator in the back of the Leaf. That'd look funny, huh?
SPEAKER 09 :
You need to get a little trail. Get a teardrop.
SPEAKER 12 :
A little trailer.
SPEAKER 09 :
A little teardrop trailer with your Harbor Freight Predator generator and a gas tank and drive around with that and see.
SPEAKER 12 :
And the plug-in hybrid thing is cool, but the range is still 30 miles.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's about it.
SPEAKER 12 :
On the electric system before it goes into hybrid mode.
SPEAKER 09 :
But that is the good part of it, though, too, is usually, you know, what's your commute? You're right. You can charge it up at home, and you most maybe work as a charger, too. Usually about 20 or 30 miles to work. Yeah, you can do your daily commutes on all electric, but then when you want to go do Mosquito Pass, and you're in Leadville, and you've run out of, you know, your battery charge... You don't have to go and charge there and fight all the Mach-Es and Teslas for the three charging stations on the main drag in Leadville. You can just go to the gas station and fill it up and then go do Mosquito Pass or whatever you want to do.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm sure you have the answer to this question. Why can we make a fully electric vehicle go 250, but we can't make the plug-in hybrid...
SPEAKER 09 :
do 100 or two is it is it lack of space it's a lack of space is it a weight thing yeah because then we make it a heavier vehicle it's it's all battery size i mean we could fill put the same batteries in there but we're now we have the weight from the ice you know the the gas engine plus the the batteries if we put a full ev size battery it would be a very heavy vehicle so they kind of you know put a smaller battery in there to be able to let you have the hybrid and to have the a little bit of ev range in there but without the full weight or the sheer space of i mean you've seen when we've done batteries and you've helped doing it the size of the battery like most of the time there's a whole floor pan of a car yeah no they they are large they are very cumbersome to uh have to replace and heavy and and all that that's for sure so maybe maybe we're still a ways away from that uh
SPEAKER 12 :
being our road trip car or long distance car, but for commuting back and forth to work, they seem to be good. I have an older Nissan Leaf that me and my wife have. We bought this thing for $5,000. It goes 70 or 80 miles, which is all we need for the day. And we keep the miles off of the diesel truck. Yeah. The maintenance on the diesel truck is so high, it's nice to just be able to jump in the leaf, take that to work instead.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the diesel fuel bill and all that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, the diesel fuel bill. I'm going to get a big one of those today while my wife is driving to Alamosa.
SPEAKER 09 :
You are.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm not even going to look.
SPEAKER 09 :
I wouldn't.
SPEAKER 12 :
I want to see what it's going to be.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, better not to know on that one. But, you know, the EVs are changing, it feels like, at light speed, you know, to the battery technology. I mean, look at first-gen Priuses and Hondas, how often the batteries weren't lasting, basically. And now we're getting well over 100,000, 150,000 miles on most of these.
SPEAKER 12 :
batteries now they're talking about those batteries outlasting an ice engine they're saying we are we are right at that tipping point yeah we are so hard to believe yeah it's just the amount of tires you got to put on it so all right we'll go to buck and cheyenne good morning buck good morning i'm kind of enjoying you guys this morning uh
SPEAKER 03 :
It's hotter than I appreciate outside. Even in Cheyenne, we're getting up close to 90, and I'm a little more cold-blooded than that. Not much wind, but it's not a bad day, but a little hotter than I like. I kind of wanted to have you guys discuss transmission changes so that To get my transmission oil changed where you could go to a place where you could hook it into the cooler line. And as they pumped, the old came out, the new went in. So we got a complete change. Now they don't want to do that. They just want to stick it down in the dipstick hole and suck what's there that's out. To me, that doesn't get into your converter at all.
SPEAKER 09 :
It doesn't, no. That's like kind of doing the same as a drain and fill when you do that. The problem is that we're having is a lot of the transmissions have thermostats in them. And so it's become harder to do a flush on it because there's a thermostat in the actual transmission cooler line. So they want the transmission to kind of come up to its happy temperature. Then the thermostat opens and then it starts going through the cooler. And I think, you know, we have all the tools to do that. It's kind of a pain because we have to get into what we call the thermostat block and actually put different adapters. And every manufacturer seems like they've built a different adapter for every one of these. But we still do it because I believe in the flush because then we're able to get all the old fluid out of it and not just, you know, three-quarters, if that, of the fluid out. Because, you know, if you don't do a flush, you're never going to get all the fluid out of the transfer case and all the other passages in there. You're just going to get what's sitting in the bottom of the pan. And if you do a dipstick service, that's what you're getting, what's in the bottom of the pan.
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What kind of a vehicle, Buck? I just, I've got... Hope we're losing you, Buck.
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But, yeah, that... Can you repeat that?
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We're back to a 95 F-250 with a 7.3 diesel. Maybe even got it. My grandkids got some a little older than that. But I went to the local quick change, which used to have the exchanger in it, and they just wanted to... suck it out and replace it, and I was not too keen on that. I'm sure there would be in it, but most of you guys with Drive Radio, most of your shops would have the ability to do the flush or whatever you want to call it, exchange, probably be a little more higher priced than Going to the Quickie Lube or whatever, we got one now in Cheyenne that you sit in their car and they supposedly change your engine oil in five minutes. I can't believe that even gives time to drain well.
SPEAKER 09 :
It doesn't. No, I don't really recommend that. Yeah, but everybody in our group, I know pretty much everybody except for, I think, one. Yeah, we all have the flush machines and the top-of-the-line flush machines, too, that can handle the thermostats and everything. All the fittings and everything else on it. I think that's the only way to do it right. Sucking it out through the fill tube just is not a good service. But that's why they have guys with not a whole lot of training. They don't have to spend a lot of money on the machine or training or having a lift to even get it up because it does. It takes a while for us to get in there and get past that thermostat to do a proper flush on this thing.
SPEAKER 12 :
And we have these machines for other fluids, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, we do, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
We've got the machines for your brake fluid, your power steering fluid, your cooling system, where we can properly flush all of those systems, not just the transmission fluid.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mm-hmm. I also, well, I got a 2016 Taurus all-wheel drive cop car, and I had it down at Fort Collins, too. They changed the fluids and the guy said there's one part, I don't know, there's a transfer case or something in that that did not have a drain plug in it. I was wondering at some stage maybe drilling and tapping it, I'd probably have to do it twice and putting a drain or I guess you could tap it high enough maybe that you could stick a hose in and suck it out. What are your thoughts about that?
SPEAKER 09 :
We have a machine that does actually suck a lot of those fluids out of differentials and stuff like that because a lot of times they don't even have a drain plug or even a spot to put them because if you look at them the way they're cast, there's just no flat spot for them to put a drain plug in these things. So we have a device that can actually go in there and pull all the fluid out of it because it has a hose and is able to suck down in there and get all of it out of there. Usually it's on the Fords, it's their transfer cases, or what they call the PTO. It's kind of, it is the same thing as a transfer case. They just call it a PTO, and it only has a fill plug in it. It doesn't really have a drain plug. So that's why we have a special machine just to get in there and effectively get that fluid out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Well, you need a lot of parts. It was essentially designed as a front-wheel drive car.
SPEAKER 09 :
drive car and then they decided to make it an all-wheel drive so that would be what what you'd call a pto case yep it is so it basically has a front wheel drive transmission and then kind of coming off what would be the shaft going over to the right side wheel they took some they put a pto right there behind the engine and that sends the force back to the rear differential to make it all-wheel drive
SPEAKER 03 :
And someplace in there they've got to have a cushion, a viscous cushion or something similar, or do they have where they can shift it? The power from front to rear.
SPEAKER 09 :
They do, yeah. And the rear diff on that, when they bought Volvo, they took Volvo's technology. And even the earlier ones, it even still says Volvo on the back. And they used Volvo's all-wheel drive technology. They used kind of, it's a viscous, but electric clutch style viscous in the back. So they used an electric clutch back there to engage and disengage the four-wheel drive. But it works basically the same as a viscous coupling.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Okay, well, thanks a lot. I enjoyed you guys this morning, so I gave John a break, but you guys did it. Well, thank you very much.
SPEAKER 09 :
You have a good day, and we're going to go to break real quick.
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And we're back. It's Josh and Justin from Ridgeline Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive, and we're going to go to Don down in Westcliff. Good afternoon, Don.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 09 :
How's the wet valley today?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hi there. Yeah, I've got a question for you. I've got a 2015 GMC Canyon, and I just hit 127,000 miles on it, and I had my brakes replaced probably a year ago. well six months after that the rotor started to work pretty bad so they had to replace them again and i've noticed already uh probably four minutes into the break uh rotor change if they're doing it again would it be uh anything in the front end that would be causing that or just bad brake rotors uh they get their parts from carquest and i'm not sure if that's good or bad
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it could be. That's what they use. When the original ones came off, were they warped? When the original brakes from GM, were they warped? Do you remember?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I bought the truck probably six years ago.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And this first time I've had a brake serviced on this was about a little over a year ago. Okay. And I'm assuming it was the same one because they were good, but then they started getting warping, so they replaced them. And the shop up here is... We don't have any Napa shops anywhere close to me, and the shop I have is pretty good. I went to Arvada West Auto for 20 years, and this here is pretty close to what they used to do for me, but they don't use Napa parts. They use CarQuest, and I was one of the CarQuest. I had a bad... brake rotors or if there's something else in the front end of the truck that might be causing it to do that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I would hope after it came in with the rotors roped the second time that they would make sure that, you know, everything's tight and also do a run out on the hub, you know, to make sure that the the hub one is clean and that it doesn't have excessive run out. But we also do see, you know, they get different runs at different times. I've had pretty much every brake component manufacturer have a set of rotors where they're, they didn't have a good metallurgy at the time and they do warp a little too quick. And then make sure they're putting, you know, there's at least three different lines with pretty much every manufacturer. Make sure they're putting, you know, the better rotors on there is what I'd make sure they would.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I'm hoping they do. They seem like the owner, I know him personally, he seemed like a pretty genuine person that would not try to put the cheap stuff on there. He does really good stuff. But yeah, and I live, if you're familiar with Westcliff, it's about 60 miles west of Pueblo. And I go down the mountain, which is about 30 miles, but I use the manual shift a lot. I don't use my brakes very hard, but they work anyway. And I'm not sure what to do about that other than just take them back and let them do it again. But then I've got to pay for labor.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, they don't do a full warranty on that? Yeah. If it's within their warranty, I would think they would be not having to worry about the labor. But I would make sure... Usually if I have a set of rotors come back the second time, the first time back we do go through the suspension and go through making sure the hubs are straight and that everything's clean and all that. And if it comes back the second time, I usually just... buy from somebody else or change grades or make sure you know it's a different manufacturer run i don't just keep you know throwing the same part at it hoping for a better result yeah that's super super clean hub too i mean that hub needs to be cleaned off it does really well and then also the torque of the lug nuts needs to also be per the manufacturer's specification as well Okay. And, you know, you guys have a lot of dirt roads down there, so make sure they're getting that thing cleaned.
SPEAKER 04 :
I live on a dirt road down here. I live on one. I live out west of Westcliff, or north, about six miles.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's still, you know, and I go to the car wash as often as I can and wash them up really good. But with that, with the spray. And we do have a Napa dealer in here, and I tried to tell him I'll take Napa and I'll pay the extra parts, but they wouldn't put them on him.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, really?
SPEAKER 04 :
Maybe I'll offer them a little more this time, but don't give me Napa rotors and see if that makes a difference. I bet it's a parts issue, most likely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hmm, okay, well, I'll just pass along what you just told me and see what they tell me, and we'll go from there, and hopefully they'll fix it. But, yeah, like I said, labor is a couple hundred dollars of labor for putting those back on there again.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and especially now that it looks like the third time back on this, we need to make some sort of change. So I would think try and see if they'll buy from Napa or if they got another source just besides CarQuest. I mean, there's the dealership. I mean, I know it's a run into Pueblo, but maybe it's worth that run into Pueblo to get some rotors from GMC for that thing too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I agree. And I'm not sure where they get them at. I thought maybe Canyon City, because no matter where you go, it's 55 miles where you go to Pueblo, Canyon City, or Salida. So I don't know where they get them at, but it is CarQuest. And I told them I'd rather have Napa, but they deal with CarQuest. So I can't fight them on that. I'll just have to see what I can do. And they're the only shop in town that I can do that with.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, good luck, Don. We're at the top of the hour, so we've got to end this. But best of luck to you on your breaks.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good show. Thank you. Thank you. And that's it for us, KLZ 560. Thank you, Justin, for coming in.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'll see you Monday. I'll see you Monday.
SPEAKER 05 :
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Join us in an enlightening episode where the complexities of insurance claims for storm damage are unpacked with the help of Dave Hart from Roof Savers of Colorado. As Colorado's storm season rolls in, many find themselves grappling with a slew of insurance questions and potential pitfalls, all of which could impact your home's future. Dave digs into the proliferation of fraudulent door-knocking salesmen and what steps homeowners should take to evaluate their own storm damage before contemplating a claim. As risk assessments become more rigorous, understanding what a claim means for your insurance rates is crucial. We explore the strategic move of assessing damage independently to protect your insurance record and why calling an expert first could be the key to long-term savings. Plus, a caller inquiry broadens our discussion to cover maintenance on older vinyl decks, offering practical advice to prolong their lifespan. This episode is a toolbox of valuable advice for homeowners determined to maintain their properties while circumventing unnecessary stress and costs.
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Walter? Upstairs! Are you alright?
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In the floor behind the chair.
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This is America.
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Does everybody know what time it is? Fix It Radio.
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And it's Fix It Radio, KLZ 560. It is a live program today on Saturday, May the 31st. So if you're listening to a replay show, you know what day we actually did the show on. Beautiful day here in Colorado, although we're not out of the woods yet when it comes to storms and things along those lines. Larry Unger with me today. Normally he's answering phones, but he's on this side of the glass today. So good morning, Larry.
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Glad to join
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john charlie grimes of course with us dave hart joining us as well from roof savers of colorado and partly why we wanted to have dave on is as i said a moment ago dave we're not out of the woods i had eve just a teeny pea-sized hail at my place last night lots of rain there's been all sorts of storms that have come and you know come and gone throughout really this kind of entire front range area and looks like we could even have a little bit more early to mid next week
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so I'm seeing the same thing. We're just basically kind of getting the storm season started, so it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I mean, even the storms we've had recently have been kind of goofy. You will get a couple days here and there, but it's been kind of like a back-to-back. Exactly. At least since last week. It's great for the grasses and the trees. Yep, everything's green. All the rain stuff is beautiful. It's green, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's great until that white stuff falls or the winds get heavy and you have tornadoes, things along those lines. And this is where we want to have you on, Dave, because we had you on this past week on my other program, on the daily program, Rush to Reason. And I even had some text messages that were following up after you left, verifying all of what you and I were talking about. And what I want to get to here is the simple fact that You have to be careful with whoever comes up and knocks on your door, and I'll let you explain some of this, but I had a texter even that followed up after you and I were on the phone the other day on the radio and was saying that in some cases even these guys will pretend and act like they're from your insurance company. Yes, they will. And they are not. So, Dave, I'll let you explain that instead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and I'm not quite sure. I have come across that a little bit over the last few years, and I'm not quite sure how they approach that, but I know they do. I don't know if there's some kind of a list of certain carriers. There are people who are assured by it. They wait, hey, I'm with State Farm, yada, yada, yada. I think there's a lot of that that's going on, but I have come across that a lot over the last five, ten years, and they're doing anything they can to get you in an agreement to do that work. And what's crazy is it's even going on on roofs that don't have any damage. You know, some of these door knockers, and I'm not trying to put the door knockers down as such because there's a lot of good companies that utilize that business model, and they're very honest with it. But the majority are not, especially during storm season when a lot of out-of-staters come. But, yeah, don't tell the customer that the roof is hammered. and we'll go look at the roof after that, and there's nothing wrong with the roof. Just to roll that dice, and we can kind of get into that later if you want to, to see if the insurance company will pay for that roof, and that's all it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, and what they're doing there, Dave, and we can talk about it right now, because I think what they're banking on is if there's a widespread storm, a lot of insurance companies, let's just face it, Dave, may not be as diligent as they would. They can look at storm patterns and storm tracks and you know you know how it is you know you could have a house you know in on one side of the street that you know all of them are wiped out and the other side of the street there's nothing wrong well unless an insurance company is actually out there verifying all of that you know one house is is hammered in the one across the street well who's to say in the insurance company's eyes that it's not as well so they look at some of that depending upon how diligent they are or aren't yeah you could very well get by with you know turning in a claim on something that's really not damaged
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, 100%. And we see it all the time. We've replaced many roofs over the years. We don't promote that, but also if the customer wants that roof replaced, they're getting money out of the insurance company for it. I'm not going to turn the work down either, but we do see it a lot where those roofs don't have damage and they're getting paid for. And I think a lot of that over the years is partly due to where we're at today with our rates and Yep, and that's ending.
SPEAKER 08 :
A lot of that is ending, and I think that's where, you know, point of having you on is, A, let's do a little bit of training so folks know exactly how this works. B, you know, minimize, you know, and this is something I don't think most people realize, minimize those claims because the one thing, and we did talk about this this past week, is insurance companies, for all of you listening, and you may already know this. You may not. Some of you do know this. Those of you that are in business know this full well. but insurance companies have what they call loss runs, and it's on every single person out there, and they can look up and say, okay, let's look and see exactly how many claims Larry Unger has had on his home, and they can go back about 10 years or so and look at that and say, okay, well, Larry did a roof five years ago, or Larry did this, or Larry had a slip and fall, or Larry had a contractor that fell off, or, or, or, Dave, I can go down the list, and they look at all those things, and trust me, folks, A lot of what I'm saying has a huge bearing on not only A, will you get insured, but B, what will that price be if, in fact, they insure you. Am I right, Dave?
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100%.
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There is a cost for it, absolutely.
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It's a risk assessment.
SPEAKER 06 :
And doesn't the deductibles go up for that?
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Yeah, well, yeah. In fact, if some of them agree to insure you, let's say, for example, you've had a claim and you find somebody that's willing to insure you or maybe it's even your current provider. Frankly, a lot of them will just drop you and you're off trying to find somebody else. But, yeah, to Larry's point, Dave, the other thing that they'll do is say, yep, we'll insure you, but your deductibles are going to be double or triple what they once were. Exactly. And you don't have any choice because we're not going to allow you to have anything lower than that. Because, again, they're looking, to your point, Dave, they're looking at the risk assessment side. So where I'm going at this with you is, and I say this all the time, before, if you think you've had some damage. I don't care where you're at. I don't care whether it's from winds, if it's from a tornado-type situation. Maybe it was nearby. Maybe you did lose a few shingles. Maybe you've had some hail. You really can't tell how bad it is. But my point, Dave, is instead of calling the insurance company, which is the normal thing most people do, oh, I want to turn a claim in. Let's get the adjuster out here. Let's figure out exactly what's going on. My theory on that is, and I do this even on automobiles where there's a fender bender or something like that. I'm not going to the insurance company first. I'm going to find out on my own exactly what's this going to take to get repaired. And I think people on their home should do the same thing with you.
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100%.
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And I'll touch on that real quick, too, but back to the door knockers. I just want to remind people. Somebody comes to your door, you didn't invite, do not sign anything in any way, shape, or form until you get closer to the end of that process. So just please remember that. There are a lot of things that you don't even know about. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
And really quick, Dave, too, and I'll be harsher on this than you. Here's my theory on that. Unless it's you, unless they've called you and they're having you out, having just somebody come by door to door looking at your roof. My feeling on that, Dave, is I want the homeowner or the customer to be in charge. I don't want them to be at the mercy of somebody going door to door. So my theory on that is, you know, guys, you can be nice. You can be polite. You can. choose to not answer the door. But you could also say, listen, I've got my own roofer. I've got a guy that I follow. He's on the radio. He's very knowledgeable. That's my guy. I don't need any of your help. Thank you very much. Goodbye.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, it kind of goes the same. I never buy anything over the phone that somebody's trying to sell me. Correct. I never buy anything at the door unless I call them out, unless it's Girl Scout cookies. I'm a sucker for Girl Scout cookies. That's a little different. It's a little different. But even guys, I've got a small part of my driveway is asphalt. I've got guys go up and down the street every week right now. Seal coat your driveway. No, I didn't invite you out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Really quick, not to get off track, but since it's Fix-It Radio, that's another one where typically, and that's an industry that I know very well, typically those guys are giving you a rock-bottom deal because they're using rock-bottom product. You're not going to get the life out of that product you would get by having, in this case, I would always recommend... Go get three bids, figure out exactly how much that seal coat's actually going to cost. In some cases, you can even do it yourself, depending upon how handy you are. Bottom line, Dave, is that's another great example of, no, do not buy from those guys that are going door-to-door, even in that case.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, do your research. Get people out here that are marketing. Spend the money to market and advertise. They're usually pretty decent. Can I get back to the repair point real fast? Most deductibles now are $2,500 and up on an average.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or a percentage of either the house or the roof, right? Right. It can be either or, correct?
SPEAKER 09 :
I didn't have a choice this year. Mine went up to a 2%.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, and really quick, is that 2% of the price of the house or what you have the house insured for or 2% of the roof price?
SPEAKER 09 :
From what I understand, it's 2% of the assessed value of the home.
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Meaning, for a lot of you listening, where you live in areas where you know the value of your house, and I'm just going to be really, you know, I'm going to use easy numbers here, Dave, just because there's a lot of folks listening that do, in fact, live in million-dollar homes. Yes, I know there's some that probably live in half of that price, some that live in between, but let's use a million bucks for an example. That means you have a $20,000 deductible. 100%, yep. Meaning you're probably doing – you may get half of that roof paid for depending upon the price. And I want to talk about some of the maintenance and things that you can do to extend the life and so on. But reality is you're really kind of on your own on your roof when you have that type of a deductible.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, completely. And that brings us back to the point of something we've talked about a few months ago on the radio, that I think in the next couple of years we may all be looking at having to completely self-assure our roofs due to natural events, if not have to have a separate rider to cover that. I'm not an insurance company, so I'm not sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I can't argue with you on that. I think you're seeing those trends, Dave, happening right now because what they're looking at is, wait a minute, you know, that – let me see if I can explain it this way. When you look at your vehicle, and as it ages, you're insured, and if you have full coverage, comprehensive, and so on, yeah, you're insured where if it gets damaged by hail, they may take the dents out and so on. If you have an accident, of course, they're going to take care of that under the collision side of it as well. But if, Dave, over time, you're not maintaining the paint on your car, you're not going to I've got my great sponsor, Pro-Tech, Auto Shield, Roy, and the folks there over in Wheat Ridge. Unless you're really maintaining the paint and keeping it up and waxing it and doing all the things necessary to keep that finish alive, Dave, the insurance company, 10 years down the road, just because you've let things go to pot and there's scratches and different things and so on, they're not going to give you a new paint job as a part of your insurance coverage. I think the roofing end of things is going to be very similar to that.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is hidden there, yeah. We're seeing that happen as we speak. You might have fresh hail damage, it might be enough damage to warrant a replacement on normal circumstances, but if that roof is 20 years old and it's completely worn out, you might get ACVs, you might get half your roof paid for, and then you get it back if you deduct a lot of that. So now you've got... a check for $3,000 to replace a $20,000 roof because of the deterioration of the roof. That's right. It's happening, and that's been going on for quite a few years. They're changing. They're looking to keep the money in their pockets. They're not a nonprofit business. No, they're not. They don't want to pay out if they don't have to.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're right, Dave, and the reality, too, is unfortunately, and this is where sometimes consumers are their own worst enemy because of some of what we've already talked about in regards to how claims are done, and so on. Reality is a lot of roofs over the years have been replaced due to age as much as anything else, but the insurance company goes ahead and pays it well. To your point, they've learned that, yeah, we're paying far too much out on this, and we're going to have to make some changes because, to your point, Dave, they are a for-profit business.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, 100%. And the metro area has gotten so used to every time it hails, it could be a little hail. You might have one or two little tiny dings on your roof. People are used to going, oh, I can get a new roof. The only issues is to pay for it. Screw them. Well, okay, you don't have to like them, but there's a cost for that. That's right. And that's the norm because people are going around knocking on the door and saying, hey, your roof is hammered. Most people don't get up on the roof or they can't get on the roof, and they trust that person at the door, and now they've got a claim made, and they may or may not get it replaced, but that's what – This industry has trained people in the last 15 years. You are correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're correct. And it's hard. Yeah, no, and so point being, those of you that have had real damage, A, and I explained this this past week, Dave, for those of you that are listening, please, again, don't call your insurance company. Believe it or not, even just a phone call in – And you might have the best agent out there. And in some cases, you know, you take a guy like Paul, who's our guy. Yeah, you could call Paul, get some advice, and he's not going to say anything to the insurance company. But there's a lot of agents working for the insurance company directly, Dave, whereby they are obligated to where if Larry or you call up and say, hey, I think I might have a claim on my roof, blah, blah, blah. Believe it or not, just that inquiry could very well show up on your record. So my point, Dave, is you've got any kind of potential roofing problems at all, call you first before calling the insurance company. Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because to even get the insurance company out, you have to make a claim. And a lot of people don't realize that. They don't realize they're even making a claim and they come out. Now you've got a potentially zero dollar claim on your policy. So yeah, definitely call us first. We'll assess it and we'll go over the proper information. We'll show pictures of what damage is there or is not there and then proceed with the options at that point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Jeff in Montana, you got a question. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, good morning. Before I get to my question, just a quick comment, kind of comical comment. You talked about the need to train people on roofing stuff rather than educate, and it brought to mind a few years ago I had this same question about the difference between education and training. I was going through some military stuff, and an instructor looked at me and said, well, you probably wouldn't mind if your daughter went through sex education. But you don't want her to go through sex training.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good point. Yeah. We have two decks, one on a detached garage and one on our main house. And when the previous owner put it in, they used rolled vinyl roofing as decking material. And it's worked out really well. I mean, it keeps the water, you know, from going down below and everything. It's just that it has, you know, a few years on it now. And I'm wondering... Is there anything that you do to protect the rolled vinyl roofing, or is it just kind of designed to hold up to the sun's rays? We're not as dramatic as you are, although at 3,000 feet, we do have a fair amount of UV, but it's not 6,000, 7,000 feet. So are you walking on that material, or is it underneath deck boards? No, we walk on it. It's the actual deck.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so it's a walk deck. Yeah. A lot of times you can do, you know, they're designed to hold up a long time. Some of the things that we do, we actually did a job a couple of years ago at an apartment complex that was never, they didn't do their walk decks properly, so they had a lot of decking rot, you know, the three-quarters plywood decking rotted out, so they had to go in and cut it out and all that, but they used more of a decking material. That's a very thick silicone base that you could put, like, use ground-up walnut shells for textures, you know, slipping. So we had to go out and cut that out, replace the decking, and then re-coat it. You know, so if it's getting that bad, you can obviously have somebody come out and replace that material, or there are products out there that I can let, you know, John and Charlie know what they are, too, if you want to. calling them later, but that you can actually go over the top of that with a heavy-duty coat of full synthetic silicone, and you can broadband or broadcast a walnut shell on that or some sand for some traction if you needed to kind of cover that up and get extra life out of that versus replacing it. But as far as any topical product, there's not many products other than those silicone products that are designed for those walk decks. So you could do something like that if you needed to. Do you know about how old it is?
SPEAKER 10 :
When we bought the house in 2017, I think they put the addition on 2012, so it's about probably 13 years old, 13, 14 years old, something like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
You should get a lot of life out of it. I mean, a lot of people, too, will put rugs out, kind of put it underneath the chair if you wanted to. The walk-on will put a rug out. But I know in Montana, it's probably not much different than here where you get that wind, too. But those are ideas and stuff. I've seen people put fake turf just kind of sitting on top and put their patio furniture on top of that to get it last longer. So there's some things you can do to maximize that lifespan. But if you're looking to kind of redo it without having to replace the whole thing, there are products you can use to go over You know, we do a lot out here on commercial flat roofs. We'll put that silicone coating on versus replacing because it's significantly cheaper and easier. We don't have to pull permits because it's considered a maintenance deal versus replacement. But there's products that you can do to go on the top of it to get more life.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, I know that there's things like, you know, conditioners that you can put on PVC boats, you know, rafts and stuff like that. That will extend that. I didn't know if there was some sort of a spray or sweep on, mop on.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Things like similar to what you do for your driveway, blacktop sealer. I didn't know if they were similar to vinyl. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, not really, because nothing really will stick to it. It's kind of like the Thompson's water seal deck stuff. I mean, I think it's got a good brand, but it just sits on the surface and eventually flakes off. So it would be the same thing on a PVC-type material. Nothing's really going to stick to it other than a 100% silicone product that's designed to do that. But there's nothing that will soak into it. If you clean it, But a lot of the cleaners are pretty harsh and filled with chemicals, too. And I tend to think that'll just expedite that process of it drying out because it's a lot of acetone, a lot of alcohol-based products that'll clean it. So I say the best thing to do is use some soap and water and wash it. And then, you know, if you don't have any cracks or you're not seeing any – it's like a mesh material in that PVC. If you start seeing some of the – Mesh is probably about the best. Like screen material is what it looks like. That PVC does tend to wear off and burn off. You start seeing some of that mesh, then you might want to think about either replacing it or doing that silicone coating. But if you don't see any of that and it's not cracking, then you've still got quite a bit of life left in it. I would just do stuff to maybe protect it so you're not walking directly on it all the time or sliding patio furniture around.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, the reason it's close to my mind is I spent most of yesterday pressure washing the dang thing and using a mild solution of ammonia and water, and I'd use a broom brush, a deck brush to put that on, and I'll wash it off. I did a good job, but I just noticed it's kind of dull, a lot duller than it used to be, and I just wanted anything to bring the shine back, but apparently not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, no, the only thing you can do is replace it or coat it, basically, unfortunately.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well, it's in good shape, so it's good to know that the coating is an option. I will definitely keep that in mind as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's significantly cheaper. Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'll bet, yeah. Labor is, what, one-third maybe, fourth?
SPEAKER 09 :
Typically on the coatings, we're about 50-50. Material and labor is about the same. That's how it works out. And, again, there's different types of roof. We'll put the coating on where it requires more labor. But on average, you know, there's what you're describing as a PVC material that's used on a lot of restaurant roofs, but there's a TPO that's more commercial, doesn't have the grease traps. But, yeah, I think there's – I totally lost my train of thought there for a second. My brain went a different direction. I apologize. I totally lost my thought. That's all right. They are designed to hold up for a long time, but that PVC does tend to wear off like you're seeing. As far as the coatings, typically we're going over the top of a roof material like you have. Labor is going to be about 50-50 the same. Yeah, it'd be similar to power washing. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I was thinking of labor to take off that vinyl roof or do something. Oh, very expensive.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very expensive. You'd be better off coating it before you do that, Jeff.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, with the coating, if it's holding up good, sticking good, you can clean that off again a little bit with some hose and some soap and water, and you can re-coat it again even easier than the first application. That's right. So it's an ongoing thing you can do if needed to every five or ten years. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And now, is that a DIY if you're handy, or would you best just kind of... I would recommend somebody that normally does that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I wouldn't do that. And, you know, Jeff, you know me. I mean, I'm very handy and know the product even that Dave's talking about and so on. I don't think, given what you're trying to do, and if it's done correctly, there'll be a warranty and such with it. You do it yourself. You're on your own.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Go ahead. I'm sorry. Henry's makes a product. You can get your Home Depot or Lowe's, but it's not a great product. No. So I would definitely call somebody that kind of specializes in what they call walk decks, and they're going to have a much better product and much better application and get a lot better long-term results. I probably wouldn't even do it myself, to be honest. Um, cause I don't, I don't do it every day. My guys do, but I don't. Great example. Great example.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. And, uh, after a certain age, many of us think we can do more than that.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a good point. Absolutely. No, I hear you, Jeff. I hear you. All right. I got to roll to a break. Jeff said it for you.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's it. Thanks.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. No, you're very welcome. I got a couple of questions that came in on the text line, Dave, for you as well. So hang tight. And I did have somebody all the way down in Oklahoma saying, yep, you guys are correct on people coming up to the door acting like they're from the insurance company in Oklahoma. Dave, that is happening more often than not. And I'm guessing that's spreading this way as well. So thank you for saying that, by the way. And thank you for listening all the way down in Oklahoma. We appreciate that as well. We'll be right back. Fix It Radio, our website, fixitradio.com. This is KLZ 560.
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All right. We are back really quick at a couple of questions that came in via text message. And one of these I'm just going to read right now. Heard you guys talking about people representing themselves as the insurance company. And my question is, what do we feel? You know, you and I, Dave and Larry, what do you feel about some of the Instagram roofing contractors that are advertising? Come join us. Knock on doors. And make big commission. I'll just tell you straight up, guys, and nothing against people that are on Instagram and TikTok and so on, all these influencers and so on. Keep in mind, A, if they get large enough, they're making pretty good money just on the videos and things that they're putting out. And frankly, it wouldn't matter if they ever got on another roof because the reality is they're making enough royalties off of being the influencer and the things. And what I mean by that is if you get – you go look at anybody's account, by the way, that has, oh – 100 000 uh followers or more uh they're starting to make money they get up into the million dollar or the million uh the million follower number they're really making decent money now how do i feel about them advertising come knock on doors and make big commission um they're most likely doing the very same things that we're advising not to do and not to answer and not to talk to so yeah my advice on that is uh frankly the way i look at the even that roofing company On the front side is, I wouldn't have them do my roof.
SPEAKER 09 :
No. No. And even on the business end of things, me being a business owner of a roofing company, I've seen it and dealt with people who've come from other companies where they rotate. They bring you in, they get you out, they teach you just enough to go and knock 100 doors. Out of 100 doors, you might get 10 jobs. You get the 10 jobs in the door, and they say, sorry, see you next time. And then they don't pay you for your, they don't pay your commissions. I see that time and time and time and time again.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. And the other thing, too, that you always remember, too, when it comes to social media and things like that, not everything you see is real. For example, I'm going to get off track here, but because we're on this topic, I think this fits perfectly. well if you really want to know how some of this influencer stuff works there is a documentary on netflix right now about liver king and yes that's an individual he was a guy that went around for a number of years claiming that you could have this entire carnivore diet eat raw meat do this do that you know he was all this you know buffed up looked like hulk hogan back in the day or you know arnold schwarzenegger and he had the whole ripped body and you know looked like this specimen of a man And, you know, he was running around, had all sorts of followers, millions of followers, making all sorts of money off of that, claiming that if you do what I'm doing, you can look just like this. Yeah, that all came caving down when they found out he was all roided up for 12 grand a month, Dave. Yes. So my point is, just because you see something on the Internet and on some of these influencers' pages doesn't mean that it's real. No.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, what's funny is I work real hard at my physique, and it is nothing to be super proud of. But I'll tell you what, it does not come easy. If it seems easy, it's too good. It's just not true. That's right. It's like anything. You have to work at something. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's exactly right. Okay, before I go to John and Cheyenne, Dave, I had another question that came in that said, hey, Dave, since you're on a lot of roofs and you've been looking at things for, you know, decades now, What is – and I know you do this. This is a good thing for you to talk about. What's the best way for folks to keep leaves and pine needles and all the junk that gets down in the gutters? What's one of the better products to use, or what's your advice for handling that?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, I – There are companies out there that do gutter guard, leaf filter. Leaf filter is a multibillion-dollar-a-year industry now. Leaf filter is a decent product, but I will tell you, just because you spend a lot of money on it doesn't mean it's going to work any better than something you can actually get at Home Depot. You can actually order them online. I know we try to... Stay away from do-it-yourself stuff, but it's pretty simple to do. It's a screen. You screw it on top, on the top lip of your gutter. It sits underneath, lightly underneath the edge of your shingle. Those work just as well as these $20 lineal foot install gutter guard systems. I've actually seen, you still get dirt in them, so you might every 10 years get to pull the screen off and get dirt out, but it keeps out a lot of the debris that would build up in there, but It's very important to do that. I used to be a certified mold inspector, abatement contractor, all that, years back. And having nasty, dirty gutters that build up, water will actually wick its way up underneath your shingles and onto your decking, and it will create mold that it has. Gotcha. Because it just can't dry out. It can't go anywhere. Super important to clean them out. Even if you have somebody come out once a year to clean them out, that's huge. But just even a cheap screen that sits on top of gutters helps out tremendously. I've talked to people we've done roofs for where I can't even pull them off because it's a proprietary system. We have to have that company come out, pull the gutter screens off, put them back on later, and it's very expensive. But those don't work as well as they claim. I still see a lot happening, but super important to keep the gutters clean. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Let's go to John in Cheyenne. He's got a question as well. John, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, you mean everything on the Internet isn't true?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it is not. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 03 :
I couldn't resist. So, oh, Dave, by the way, the older you get, the harder it is to stay in shape, just to let you know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Brother, I'm out there with you. I'll be 54 here in a couple months, and it's like, what in the world is going on here? All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, John, one of the things I discovered over this spring with the new barn is is that when the rain comes in from the south, it puddles in front of the main door and then goes underneath. And I was looking for a couple of different solutions, and I have a drain in front of it, but just when it hits a door, it rolls down and it'll go a little bit underneath. And I saw it looks like it's made of rubber or silicone. It's about the length of the door, and it has like a lip bump. You know what I'm talking about?
SPEAKER 09 :
Does it attach to the bottom of the door?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it attaches to the concrete and the door closes on top. Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. The threshold there. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Are they worth it?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, depending on this, this is my opinion, Dave, you can answer this as well. But depending upon what kind of water, you know, potential water intrusion and things like that, you might have, for example, John on my pole barn, on my shop doors and so on. I have a very similar system to what you're talking about. Works really well. Keeps the water from coming in. at the bottom of the door and so on uh do i do i like it and does it work well for that yes about the only downside to it for me is occasionally if you're you know running something through the man door instead of the overhead door and you're trying to you know dolly something up and over that threshold that's about the only time it's a pain but other than that it works great all right so if i get one what would you use to glue it down Liquid nail.
SPEAKER 03 :
Liquid construction adhesive. Yep. And then I'm not sure. I'll go into that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Really quick, John. I did the same thing. People ask me all the time on this one. Years ago, because I got tired of, in my garage itself, the garage attached to the house, not my pole barn, but my garage attached to the house, I got tired of... water either seeping in under the door from outside because no matter what you do every garage door out there isn't going to be sealed up exactly on the bottom you know because there's variations in the concrete and so on and you're just not going to get a perfect seal but they do make this wide uh urethane type seal that's about four inches wide that you can actually put at the bottom of your garage door that your garage door then comes down and sits on. So not only does it give a better seal for the garage door, but you're also sealing water either in the garage that might be there already or water that would like to come in the door from outside. You're putting enough of a lip there that that water can't go either direction. And, John, I'll just tell you straight up, and I put that on the same way you're talking about, used some construction adhesive, glued that down. I've had that on now for probably –
SPEAKER 03 :
eight years best thing i ever did as far as my garage goes okay okay so um i found uh i'm going into menards if they don't have it they have it on amazon so if they don't have one in menards i'll order it on amazon they were 20 bucks 30 bucks i don't know not very expensive so yeah i just wanted so liquid nails uh construction adhesive okay i could do that All right. I got a drive radio question, but that's for later.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. No problem. You call us back here in just a little bit. Not a problem at all, John.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Appreciate you. Dave, really quick. I had a question that came in a moment ago, too, that somebody said they've got exact same roof. Let me go back to this particular text message. Exact same roof. They got two different bids. It is exact same roof or exact same product shingle, so on and so forth. Malarkey Class 4. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay, so both are Malarkey Class IV. One company, though, is charging $3,600 for a steep roof. Is this normal? Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
It depends on how steep, how big the roof is, because everything is based on square foot, the material, labor, everything else on pricing. So it's probably not unheard of, but that does sound a bit steep, because we're probably seeing 12, 14, 30. Yeah, we could probably... On an average size roof, even on the steepest, like a standard 12-12, that does sound a bit high on an average size roof. But again, it depends on the size of the roof. And I'd be happy to take a look at them if they're not in town or in the Denver Metro area or whatever. I'd be happy to take a look at them and even get on Google Earth and kind of get a look at that property and see if there's something there that's raising a red flag. But Also, you and I, John, have talked several times now where we'll go out and bid a roof, re-deck roof, an average-sized roof, and I don't know, we're at $22,000. And then some other big company comes in, and they're at $42,000. So we're seeing a lot of that, too. But I'm happy to investigate and look at that and make sure it does make sense. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Before we go to break, Dave, you've got a product, too, that can help people extend the life of their roofs. It's been on my roof. It does work. Talk about the RoofMax product, if you would.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so basically what the RoofMax product is, it's an oil product, all plant-based product that we apply to a shingle roof. And so we want to do it on roofs that are five years old or older because as the roofs are on the roof, sun hits them, wind, whatever, the petrol oils and the asphalt evaporate, they dry out. And what happens is you start to lose granules, you start to get what we call thermal cracking in the shingles, like our roads crack over time when they dry out. Same basic process, but prevents that, kind of fixes that, helps extend that life drastically. And we're doing a lot with roofs that have minor hail damage, too. So as we talk about the insurance things changing, the cost, everything else, just because you do have some minor hail damage doesn't mean that roof has to be replaced. So that's why it's really important for us to get out and look at it and if you can discuss those options. and see what options best fits where you're at.
SPEAKER 08 :
And for everybody listening, too, and I want to make sure we're clear on this, Dave, that's a product whereby you can put it on today. In my case, for example, I think it's been about four years or so since we did MyRoof, four to five years, probably getting to the point where I need to head you out and double-check it again and look at it. But it can be done every, what, five, six years or so as needed, depending upon where you're at and how your house faces and what kind of sun – you know, what kind of sun exposure it has and so on. But it's one of those things, Dave, where if everything's in good shape and you want to keep it that way and avoid some of these other, you know, deductibles and costs and so on that we've been talking about. And really quick, I'll give a testimonial for it. In my particular area, we can get some really, really high winds. In fact, every time we have a really high windstorm, I'll have Dave roll by and, hey, do we have any damage? Is anything, you know, off? And Dave, as of right now – So it's doing that product, and all the times you've come out and done an inspection, even with some minor hail that we've received and or wind, we have no issues.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, no issue. Your granule loss has been to an absolute minimum. So, I mean, it really works. It does provide an extra 30% protection against hail. um but it's designed to keep that roof in like new condition for as long as possible the average roof in colorado is going to last you 15 to 17 17 years depending on the direction depending on the color you know if it's darker or lighter right um but with this treatment we catch it in time we can get that out to a full 30 years and a lot of people will say i've got a 30-year roof i'm like well no you don't you know right it's not going to last 30 years without without something
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and mine's a great example of that, Dave. Mine, I bought it from a fellow good friend of mine. They did a remodel back in the early, like, 2011, 2012, something like that. Maybe even the roof might have even been done in 2010, depending upon how that was structured during the remodel and so on. But let's just say it's 2012. Well, that's 13 years ago, and I'm not exaggerating, folks, and Dave can attest to this. You can walk up on top of my roof, and does it look 13 years old? No, it does not. Not at all. No. No.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nor does it feel. I think we were out there the other day or a couple months ago, and it's still got some light. It's soft. It's not mushy, but it's soft. It's not dry and crunchy like we are. Most of us start to get about 10 years of age. Yeah. No, product works. It works. Yeah, it's like taking that roof, the condition it's in now, and keeping that condition a lot longer, and a lot of times make it even better. That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. We'll come right back. If you guys have any more questions, please either call in or text me, text line 307. 200-8222-307-28222. You can call also the studio here, 303-477-5600. And also, if you're listening to a replay, so this show will play again on Sunday evening, so if you're listening then, or if you're listening on Tuesday, the replay that we do on Tuesdays, and you have a question for Dave, A, you can either text me, and I'll get that off to Dave and get that answered, or you can call Dave directly, 303- 710-6916. Again, 303-710-6916. And, Dave, I know I can speak for you, but you'll answer questions if anybody has a question on anything.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. I'll help out however we can. Sorry, I couldn't talk.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, you're fine. No, you're fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Just give us a call. We'll answer questions.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. All right. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Fix-It Radio, KLZ 560. Dave, before I go to the phones, a question came in. Is an overlay asphalt shingle, does that meet code in Broomfield, Colorado?
SPEAKER 09 :
I believe they have done away with, if you have it now, your grandfather did, but I believe they no longer allow two layers of shingles if we were to re-roof it now. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you go out and do the maintenance, you could do a coating and all that, but you can't re-roof it that way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct, yeah. I think right now Denver County might be the only people that will allow a second layer, but most jurisdictions in Colorado are getting away from it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, all right. I've got more text coming in, but in the meantime, let's talk to Mark in Wiggins. Mark, go ahead. Sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, good morning.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning.
SPEAKER 11 :
I've got two comments. You guys were talking about roofs and weather, and so it brought up a couple of things in my mind that I thought I would mention that I haven't heard yet. The first one is I'm actually a part of a reporting agency. It's through, I can't even remember who started it. I think it might have been, you know, one of the colleges, whether it was Fort Collins or CU. But anyway, its website is COCO. R-A-H-S dot org. So it stands for COCORAS, which is Colorado Community Rain and Hail Snow. And so I, for the last four years, have over about a thousand reports that I personally have put in of either snow, snow melt, rain, hail reports, And so the National Weather Service, and I believe others actually go to this particular website and download these daily information, you know, NOAA, National Weather Service, Colorado State University might be the one headed up. But anyway, so, you know, I joined because I took a weather-wise – course years ago and got my weather spotter number. So actually it's a number that the National Weather Service has on file for your location and they can call you or you can call them on a unlisted number and and report significant weather. And I've actually gotten phone calls out of the blue saying, hey, are you getting extreme weather hail right this second? Which is pretty cool. But my point is, you can go onto this website, CoCoRaHS, and they also have comment section. And, you know, people will write in on their weather reports what happened in the last 24 hours, whether it was wind, wind damage, hail, what size of hail. And I just got an email this week that they're actually also trying to include pictures, which they've been trying to get that done forever. And that's really valuable information. And so I've actually just in the last week started a second station. I'm the only one probably in a 40-mile range in western Moren County that does this. I think there might have been in the long past, but Anyway, for people that are interested in getting into weather reporting without being a forecaster or meteorologist, you can get into that. But you guys were talking about Dave Hart and Roof Max doing the treatments, which... You know, we had done, but it won't stop hail damage. Nope. You know, hail is just going to beat everything up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just like a clear coat and things like that on a car. If it's big enough hail, you are 100% correct, Mark.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. So we were actually, we had him come out years ago and replace our roof. And we were having a leak in a really strange spot on the front of our house and then around one of the, I think it was like one of the roof vents. And so when he came out, you know, I said, is there anything that we could do to upgrade? Obviously, you know, you can upgrade shingles, but is there anything that's missing? You know, whether it's flashing or anything. And so he brought up something that I never heard of. And he had mentioned a, I think it's called like a rain and ice shield or which goes along kind of like the bottom edge of the roof and underneath a couple of feet and protects that lower edge from excess of rain coming up underneath or ice.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
And we have not had one single leak since we've had that brand-new roof on. Nice. None.
SPEAKER 08 :
Nice. Good job, Dave.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I just went up there the other day, and it still looks brand-new. That's awesome. Like they just put it on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Really quick, too, Mark, I'm going to step in for a moment. And, Dave, thanks for that as well. But, Mark, what Dave is doing is – and I know Veteran Windows and Doors isn't a sponsor of ours here on Fix-It Radio, but he is during the week – He talks about the very same thing when it comes to installing windows because most window installers don't do that, but he does. So it's funny, Dave, that you and Dave, both Daves, are doing the same thing when it comes to either roofing and or the window installation because in a lot of cases in Colorado, because it's not code, it just doesn't get done, Dave.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Well, it comes back to, and I've had many conversations with Dave from Veteran Windows as well, and he and I operate our businesses very similar in the sense that we're here for the customer's best interest. Yes, we're doing this to provide for our families, but we want to do what's best for the customer long-term and not just pad our pocketbooks. And one of those things is the underlayment behind the windows or underlayment underneath the shingles. And there's a lot of situations. I think what Mark was having was ice damming because that section of roof was facing north. And so it just kept piling up and piling up and building up and gets underneath everywhere. Well, it might cost us a couple hundred dollars extra material, but guess what? Mark's not calling me this year with a leak. Right, good point. And it's just got to be done properly. And not every jurisdiction requires ice and water. There's a lot of companies that don't do it because it's not a cheap material. But we look at things, it's like a few hundred dollars more, and we have some extra peace of mind. And I'm happy to do that so we don't have issues. That's awesome. Good deal. Yeah, so even if it's not coded, it's standard on every roof we do no matter what.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mark, I got to run. I'm going to try to squeeze two more questions in. Are we good? Sure. Yeah, we're good. All right, man. Appreciate you very much. Thanks for the testimonial as well for Dave. Dave, I appreciate that. Okay, two more questions. One was the RoofMax product that you spray on, does it change the color of the shingle? I answered that question already, but I want you to explain that I believe all it does is bring it back to whatever its original color was. If it's faded a little bit, you may darken things up some because you're rejuvenating all of that, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
100%, yeah. We don't change the color. To change the color, we'd have to seal the shingle. We don't want to seal the shingle. We still want that shingle to be able to have some air movement. Got it. Because if you don't, then you start getting mold underneath your shingle and eventually onto your wood deck. It does bring the original color back. It's rejuvenated. It's like waxing your... If your car is black and sits in the sun for eight years, it's bringing that original color back.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, one last question, and then I'll let you go, Dave. What do you think about the steel scrape roofs that look like shingles?
SPEAKER 09 :
I like them. They're effective. They're very expensive, but they still get damaged. The initials companies are now not really paying for cosmetic damage. But it is a good roof. There's nothing wrong with it. A lot of them are steel-coated, or you can do a lot of steel stamping. We did it on a few years ago in the mountains. It was all handmade copper shingles. So there's a lot of neat stuff out there that can be done. So great roofs. But, again, the important part of that stuff, it's like a concrete tile roof, is the underlayment because you still get water and snow that will blow in the seals. So you have to do what's called a high-temp ice and water over the entire roof deck so that water does not work its way in anywhere. But great roofs. They're hard to walk on, though. If you need to service a swamp cooler or anything else like that, I probably wouldn't put that on a roof that has a swamp cooler on just because you do have to walk on them. They do dent pretty easily. You have to be careful where you step on them, but good roofs.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, one minute left and got one last one that came in. I said that a moment ago, but we've got another text message. You folks are talking about getting into the trades, which we do all the time. Somebody told my son to get into being a roofer or selling windows and doors because there's less barriers to get in than being an electrician, a plumber, even an auto technician. Is that true? And yes, Dave, that in fact is true. It is.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is. Except for me, I actually have to redo my ICC testing, my national testing, because some of the counties are starting to require it. But it is a lot less of that than those trades, for sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
The downside is, for those of you listening, and Dave, you would be the first one to admit this, It's a young man's game being a roofer, being up on sloped roofs and so on and being out in the heat and the sun and so on. Not saying you shouldn't do it, but just remember that as you age, you better have some sort of a backup plan. You know, get into the sales aspect of it or the managerial aspect of it or whatever, because it's just like being an auto technician, Dave. It's a young man's game.
SPEAKER 09 :
100%. And even for me, I've stopped doing a lot of labor in the last 10, 12 years, but just even getting up on seven, eight roofs a day and inspecting them, there's a reason you've helped me get people on board to help me do that so I don't have to do it all day every day.
SPEAKER 08 :
It does catch up. It does. It does. Dave, man, I love you. Appreciate you very much. Thanks for all your support. And everybody listening, please, if you need anything at all roofing-wise, give Dave a call, 303-710-6916. And, Dave, enjoy the beautiful weather we have today. I will. You guys as well. Have a blessed weekend. All right, man. Appreciate you very much. And again, Dave Hart, that is Roof Savers of Colorado, specializing in the RoofMax product, but really can fix anything you've got, whether it's residential, commercial, you name it. He does it all under one roof. This is Fix-It Radio, KLZ 560.
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Discover the complexities of wealth as the hosts explore the cultural, personal, and societal dimensions of money management. Through engaging discussions, A Guy's Perspective reveals how adopting the right mindset can lead to financial success and stability. Listen in for valuable advice on building and maintaining wealth, one step at a time.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't hide myself I don't expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it's like to be a man It's a lonely road And they don't care about what you know It's not about how you feel But what you provide inside that home
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to A Guy's Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
SPEAKER 11 :
How's everybody doing today? This is A Guy's Perspective. We're every Saturday from 2 to 3 and you can reach in and reach out and talk to the boys or the guys at 303-477-5600. Again, that's 303-477-5600. For all the men that are out there, I think we've got a good show for you all today. We're going to talk about what? Money. Every guy likes to hear that.
SPEAKER 10 :
That word, there's something, it resonates with you when you say, just the word money rolls off your tongue. Like, it sounds good.
SPEAKER 12 :
Try it, Reno.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, try it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Money.
SPEAKER 10 :
It just sounds good, man. Money. I mean, it's the perfect color, too. The dollar bill looks good, man. So whoever designed it.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's green, so it better grow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Yeah, that's the truth. Add some water to that, some sunlight, let that mud grow. The statement, more money, more problems, is a lie. We know that. It's in fact the opposite. Having more money can actually solve problems.
SPEAKER 07 :
Money answereth all things.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes. I agree. I agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
Money's power and not in a bad way. It brings social status. It gives a person access to resources, opportunities. It even helps a person have good health. If you've got money, it brings down your stress level, and people don't understand that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I agree with that.
SPEAKER 11 :
So when a person doesn't have money, what's the number one thing they worry about?
SPEAKER 13 :
Money.
SPEAKER 10 :
Y'all both said it at the same time.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, I'd like to kind of quote Myron Golden here. One of the things that he said is a lot of people are like, well, you know, I don't want to have too much money. And it's the only thing that people feel that way about. They're like, well, I just want enough to get by. What about like knowledge? If I say, hey, do you want more knowledge? You probably say, yeah, as much as I can get. How long do you want to live? As long as I can. Yeah. Everything else is like we want that in abundance, but we're weirdly programmed against generating and creating wealth.
SPEAKER 11 :
Why do you think that is, though?
SPEAKER 13 :
It's the cultural hypnotic societal mechanism, like Myron Golden says. It's built into us through school and everything. It's a ploy by the elite to keep us impoverished.
SPEAKER 07 :
Harino. It's also a mindset. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And that's huge.
SPEAKER 07 :
So there's a book called Think and Grow Rich.
SPEAKER 13 :
Excuse me.
SPEAKER 07 :
There's a book called Think and Grow Rich. Yes. So.
SPEAKER 13 :
Kiyosaki?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, that's a. Oh. Think and Grow Rich is by Napoleon Hill thank you Charlie Charlie was up top of it he got it so you know it's purpose to change your mindset so I think they should teach financial literacy in schools oh and why won't they from elementary all the way through high school to college you can't get financial literacy in that aspect without doing it yourself.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. It's either instituted by – it should be instituted by mother and father in the household, in the nucleus. They should have already gone through enough life to experience how to handle money well and then impart that to the children. And if it's not, then it's a generational curse that needs to be broken. I've had to break mine at 40 years old.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And I'm learning – I learned things at 40 and 50 that if I knew when I was 20 – Could have changed my mindset, but if you don't have the right mindset when you're learning it, you're not going to retain it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you think you can obtain wealth, real wealth, if you don't have the mindset for it?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't think so. Because the wrong mindset, you're just going to blow it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow. Like the Bible says, it has wings and it takes flight. I don't know that scripture exactly.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's like a fool with money.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's the truth. So with that being said, if you don't have the mindset to obtain wealth, why aren't parents teaching their kids to have that mindset?
SPEAKER 13 :
They themselves don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
They might not have the mindset.
SPEAKER 13 :
They themselves don't know, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And when I was younger, I didn't have that mindset. Gotcha. There's a lot of things I didn't know. Like if you start out and you're working at 20, you could dictate your retirement.
SPEAKER 11 :
You can. So let's say you're 20 years old to 50 year old. What do you think a person who has a money mindset, what do you think their bank account should look like? Because how much money do you think went through your fingers?
SPEAKER 10 :
Let's go around the table.
SPEAKER 13 :
How much money do you think went through your fingers? Well, just the 27 years of doing windshield repairs at $100,000 a year. Easy. What's that? 2.7 mil. There you go. 2.7 mil. Same with me. yeah same with you if not if not a little more give or take if not more so so when we look at the big scope of things yeah cumulatively over the over the years yes we've we've generated a lot and lost a lot and like you said money uh it grows wings and it will leave so you have to budget you have to you have to have a handle on your money have financial literacy Um, in order to, in order to grow it, anything that has like, you need to, you need to give attention to it. It definitely needs attention.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. Cause there's so many people that when it comes to money, they put their head in the sand.
SPEAKER 13 :
Easy come, easy go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank God. Thank God. It's a Friday. Oh God. It's Monday. That's Dave Ramsey.
SPEAKER 11 :
Tell me the worst feeling isn't living paycheck to paycheck. That's beyond the worst feeling. And anybody who says it's not, it's bad. And I don't think, at least in my opinion, I don't think God ever created us to not have an abundance of wealth.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you said living paycheck to paycheck. As business owners, we don't get regular paychecks. So if a client doesn't pay or they decide to pay late, I think that's a worse feeling than living paycheck to paycheck. That's good you brought that up.
SPEAKER 11 :
What do you guys do when a client doesn't pay?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, just to kind of give you like what I did when I got on a budget, and right now I'm currently off a budget. I don't have a budget going. But when we got on a budget, what I did was I, from a business standpoint, because you couldn't really tell how much money you were making, it's peaks and valleys, highs and lows. Sometimes you get money and then you got expenses. But I made sure that I got on a budget for my company. So if I knew that the past six months I was paying myself $5,200, well, guess what? Heath gets $5,200 regardless of highs or lows.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's really good.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. So I had to budget myself for that. Now, I could give myself bonus and such, but it all starts with a budget. You have to know how much you've got and how much you're spending. Income and outgo.
SPEAKER 11 :
So basically you pay yourself first before anything else is a part of your budget.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. But as a business, as Reno knows, the tax advantage of business is that you expense things that otherwise would be constituted as personal. Auto payment, cell phone, internet, food.
SPEAKER 11 :
Again, if anybody wants to call in and talk money to the guys in business, it's 303-477-5600. Money plays such a big role in our personal lives and in society because if you don't have enough money in the bank account, you can't take little Johnny down to the store and buy a big wheel. It's not going to happen. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 12 :
Remember them big wheels with that handle? True that. You get going, spin it up, and you pull that handle. That break out the back.
SPEAKER 11 :
So money's not a bad thing, and that's what we're trying to say. society doesn't teach people about money because it's almost like they want you to live in debt or fear of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
There's a common phrase that money is the root of all evil. That's a false phrase. It's the love of money is the root of all evil.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think that leans more toward the greed when it's more important for you to uh, get over on someone or make money that you don't like your intentionality is wrong. It's about the heart.
SPEAKER 11 :
Bad ethics.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
So how, how does one, like, like we're talking to men today, you guys are, we're men, we're your business owners. I work for, um, an oil and gas company. What, what, what, how do you tell a man if he's His mindset is to go after money to provide for his family. How does he know if he's doing too much? Because some people want that nest egg. I mean, some people say time is more important. Well, I believe money, having money brings time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Money does bring time, I think.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
So how does somebody know if they're investing too much into their business or working too late? I mean, y'all are business owners. Won't you have to work around the clock?
SPEAKER 07 :
There's times that you have to put more time into it for the business so you can have time later.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's good. That is really, really good. Explain that.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you might have late nights, but you're building something. So, you know, when you're building something, it's piece by piece, bit by bit. But once it's built, then you can step away. So once you have a team, then you can step away and let your team operate. Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's business ethics 101, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, to build until you get to where you need to be. That way people, because money brings time. Once you've got enough people working for you, you're on the golf course they're working for you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and here's the reason why, and to quote Myron Golden again, it's money is spiritual. And there's spiritual levels that we get to attain. So by being a manager, it's a higher spiritual application. And you make more money for it, but you're overseeing people. And then when you're a business owner and you empower and employ others, then that's a whole new level of money management.
SPEAKER 11 :
Gotcha. What do you think is the most stressful thing about owning a business and having to balance your books? What's the most, for people that are wondering, again, you can call us at 303-477-5600. We're talking money. And we're asking the guys the question, what's the most stressful part about handling your money as a company?
SPEAKER 07 :
I thought you said owning a business. Yeah, well, owning a business. Employees. The most stressful thing is employees.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I had a saying. I don't know if I guess I still believe it. It's I'd rather be self-employed than employed, but I'd rather be an employee than an employer. Wow. Because when you oversee people, then I think for you, Arino, too, it's. Like our business is our heart, blood, sweat, and tear all in it. And then when we share that with somebody and they crap on it and they take advantage of it, it hurts.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're not going to feel the same way you feel because it's not theirs. Right. And they don't know what I went through to get it from the ground to where it is now. Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
And so we can take it personally. I mean, I have.
SPEAKER 07 :
I take it personal all the time. He said that quick. Hey, I see. I buy the material. I go to the job site and I see it laying on the floor. I kind of want to fight that person. Yeah. I'm not saying I'm going to, but it really irritates me. Yeah. You don't care that each piece is accounted for.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And we have, you know, we have to track that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and think of it from the perspective of a client, somebody you've established a relationship with for a decade or something. And it takes one person to go in and kind of soil that or ruin that. And you have to do damage control.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and I've had to go back myself to fix things and try to, you know, explain or... Remediate. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, damage control to keep the client because, you know, it was a faulty install.
SPEAKER 13 :
The funny thing that happens there, though, and people might understand this if you own a business, is... As an owner, we're perpetually trying to rise up and out of those positions and have people handle our customers and client base like their own, like we would. But when they mess up, then we have to drop back down to that level of going there ourselves And so it's a real humbling thing, but then it just solidifies that cycle where that customer wants you. They don't want the next guy you bring in.
SPEAKER 07 :
They want you. Real fast, I've had customers that build custom homes. If I'm not on the job, he'll find another contractor.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. So it traps you.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you, as business owners, and we're talking wealth and obtaining wealth, If you have, let's say, a competitor out there and their prices are much lower than you, do you take your prices down to compete with those people or do you keep your prices the same because your quality is better?
SPEAKER 07 :
No. Each business is individual. What I need to complete a job is going to be different from what someone else needs to complete a job because we all have different expenses. Gotcha. We're individual. And just because he charges less doesn't mean it's going to be a subpar job. But a lot of times you do get what you pay for. That's a true statement.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, what is it, the good, fast, cheap? You can have good and fast, but it's not cheap. You can have... that's a fact good and cheap but it's not fast you know and I used to it's the middle the spot that somebody has to suffer in that and I used to run good fast and cheap but then the person who suffered in that was me I was undervaluing myself and so therefore people would like take advantage of me they'd be in Boulder and need a repair right now and I'd leave Parker. But no longer. Uh-uh. No. I put my customers right where they need to be.
SPEAKER 11 :
If y'all could give... a person who's wanting to start a business, because I truly believe that the business owner is the one that makes the most money. It's apparent Elon Musk is richest man in the world. He's the business owner. If anybody wants to call in and talk to the guys, it's 303-477-5600. We're talking money. What would be the best advice y'all could give to somebody who's thinking about starting a business right now?
SPEAKER 13 :
For me, it's to understand that all business, good business is relationship. So as long as you have a good relationship with the person and you aim to serve them, then you really can't go wrong, whether product or service based business, if you aim to serve the person.
SPEAKER 11 :
So if I come to you and I want to buy a windshield, how long will it take for you once you receive my call to get to, let's say... 48 hours. 48 hours before you can get out to change my windshield.
SPEAKER 13 :
Within 48 hours.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's say I call you for electrical work and it's midnight and I have an emergency going on. How long will it take for you to get to where I'm at if I'm in the Denver metro area?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it depends if I'm a 24-hour business. Okay. If I'm a 24-hour business.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, are you on call 24 hours?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I used to be, but no longer is too much on me.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Just because getting up in the middle of the night with the kiddos and all?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, if I'm the one doing it and I'm the only one doing it, when am I going to sleep? Yeah. Because I've gotten calls on Christmas Eve. Really? And you've got to run out. And it's an emergency. It's an emergency. Yeah. It was almost a fire, actually. Really? Yeah, so...
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, which makes sense. We've all seen like National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation and everybody plugs in all of their lights. The cat chewing on the cord under the Christmas tree.
SPEAKER 11 :
So if money is what everybody's striving for, does money really give you freedom and control of your life?
SPEAKER 07 :
If you have... You have more freedom and control of your life with money than without it. If you have no money, you have no control. My goodness. You're like... I mean, you could be homeless, but...
SPEAKER 11 :
Because there's so much division around. There's some people out there that they honestly believe that you don't need to be wealthy. Just, you know, go through life. Yeah, enough is enough. If you can afford one box of cereal for the kiddos, that's cool. I believe you should be able to afford it all.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and here's the messed up thing is then they'll say things like, you know, the Lord provides. Well, he provides just, and this is my dad actually speaking, is, well, you know, he always seems to provide, but just enough, not any extra. I'm sorry, but that's not the God I serve.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow. Wow, that is the truth.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm sorry, but that's not the God I serve. I serve one of abundance and opulence and, you know, like everything, like everything.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, you're right, because if you read the Bible, I don't see too many poor people running around in the Bible.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, it was just different. They had goats.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I mean, look at Solomon. Solomon went above and beyond. I mean, he had so much wealth. So did David. So did Abraham. So did Adam and Eve. So did all these people.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, because with Solomon, man, if it costs, I don't know, say it costs $100,000 a year for one wife and he had 1,000 concubines and all. Dude was wealthy.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, he was wealthy. Let's be real.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wealthy in wisdom, wealthy in money and finance, and then that empowered a lot of people, employed a lot of people.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because it's funny you said wisdom because wealth, if you don't have wisdom but you obtain wisdom and you attain wealth, you're pretty smart at that point because I don't think idiots just stumble across a million dollars. Unless you happen to win the lottery.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, just as quickly as they stumble across it, they stumble to lose it. That's a true statement, too.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you said the lottery. How many people who won the lottery are now worse off than they were before they won it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Because they don't know how to manage money. They don't have the mindset of money.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, in Reno, you're absolutely right. Because what happens, Brock, is that when the person comes into wealth easy like that... all of the riches they level up their lifestyle to meet that and then when it dwindles and goes away now they're in like greater debt than they were before because lifestyle had changed that that's funny i i had read i had read a story this was probably a year ago about um
SPEAKER 11 :
a lady winning like one of the biggest lotteries of all time and um in this story she ended up i'll just fast forward to the end so i don't take up time at the end she won something like it was something like 400 million dollars after taxes she went out and bought family members mansions and cars well guess what all that stuff got took in a way She blew through that money, and at the end of the day, they still had to pay property taxes on those homes, and nobody could afford it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hey, Nick Cage did that same thing, man, buying castles and all that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 11 :
Nicholas Cage. If you don't have the mindset to money, it'll just leave you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's crazy. Money provides security. But money is also information. If you've got money to invest in like you guys' company, then you can afford the right people to market your business, to give you the right information. That way you can grow your business because information really is money. The more information you've got, the smarter you are, the more money you're going to obtain. You know? And I'm not saying a college.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'd like to say this one thing. Here's one thing. Look at how we've grown just in our, us three sitting here and anybody listening out there. When you were 16, you were making what? You know, $100 or $200 a week.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, I want to tell them.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know what I mean? And then you get all the way up to here and you're making more and more and more because we should increase as our knowledge and wisdom and information increases.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, let me tell you about the poorest time ever.
SPEAKER 11 :
And you helped me out. For listeners, we're 303-477-5600. And I'll tell this story again on the other side. I've been in college the last 10 years. And I've been working for an oil company, but I was really bad at budgeting money. And so one of the guy's perspectives here, I showed up on campus with, I had a BMW, I showed up on campus with a BMW, and they put a boot on my car.
SPEAKER 10 :
Who drives a BMW and has no money in their savings account?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's pretty bad. So... I turn around and I come out of class and I'm like, oh, there's a boot on my car. This is jacked up. I'm like, I look at my bank account. It's zeros everywhere. This was, I'm telling you people, I'm not even the same person. This was probably how long ago? Maybe 10, eight, 10. Yeah. Yeah. About 10 years ago. 10 years ago. Yeah. So I call up one of the guys perspective before we wore the guys perspective. And I was like, Hey man, I need $600 or $500 for this boot off my car. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And this guy was like, this is a good learning opportunity about money. And I was like, oh, yeah? And he was like, I'm sorry, but I can't give you that money.
SPEAKER 11 :
You've made too much money to not have money. At that moment, the light bulb went on. And I've never been broke again.
SPEAKER 12 :
Like, I'm like, I'm saving money. I remember it. You had said to me.
SPEAKER 10 :
I was so mad.
SPEAKER 13 :
You said to me, he's like, hey, man, can I borrow $500? You know, I'll get you back. I need to get this boot off because I got excessive tickets. And I was like, well, you know, I can't. And you're like, oh, you mean you don't have the money? And I was like, no, I got the money. But I just ain't giving it to you.
SPEAKER 11 :
and you were like and you were like oh bro and you hung up yeah oh i was mad i'll never forget that but you know what it started me on a path of budgeting money saving money buying a beautiful home beautiful like like it changed my whole perspective of money
SPEAKER 13 :
Sometimes tough love works, man. Tough love does work. I want to say something because, you know, I was on the Dave Ramsey train for, and I still love Dave Ramsey. I think for anybody out there that wants to level up, they can learn to budget, live below their means, do that snowball, and all of the things that Dave Ramsey teaches, which is great. But I know it's not the only way. And while my wife and I paid off $200,000 of debt by following his plan. That's amazing. It was amazing. In four years. In four years? In four years, yes. But then we went right back into debt. Wow. And not necessarily because of bad practices, but because I needed to make some moves to level up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
So buying a house and some cars and all of that stuff. Leveraging your money to get money, basically. Thank you for bringing that up. And that's the new thing that I'm on, which is more leveraging at this moment. That's where I'm at. It's a leverage, which is debt, but maybe it's more along the Robert Kiyosaki line. approach now. His books are wonderful.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Rich Dad, Poor Dad.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I've read so many. I read Rod Smith's financial book. I've read Rich Dad, Poor Dad. I've read the Cashflow Quadrant. I've read Donald Trump's financial books. I'm studying value. I love learning about money because knowledge, at least the way I feel, when it comes to money, information is money. If we can learn to, okay, like for example, outside of you, you have cryptocurrency, right? Had. Had. Did you cash it in?
SPEAKER 13 :
We cashed everything out so that we could make some moves into the house.
SPEAKER 11 :
How much cryptocurrency did you have?
SPEAKER 13 :
We had about $7,000 invested and it turned into like $15,000 or $16,000.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so take $7,000 and it goes up double. That's a pretty good investment.
SPEAKER 13 :
Was it Bitcoin or Doge or? uh uh no uh we had uh ethereum uh um uh what is it uh crow uh which is like crypto.com stuff and then um and some others i forget what else gotcha but ethereum so do you guys think cryptocurrency is where everybody should be going right now what do you think marino
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it's anything you invest in, you've got to study it. Yes, agreed. When I was in an investment club, we'd do stock studies, and we'd each be responsible for a different stock. Okay. So when you do a stock study, you look at the 10K, which will put most people to sleep. But, you know, you look at all the numbers, all the aspects of the company, the management, everything. You just don't jump into it. So if it's a cryptocurrency, you better know about it. No matter what you invest in, you better know about it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hey, my people perish for lack of knowledge. Could have to have to.
SPEAKER 11 :
We have one more minute, people. So on the other side, call us at 303-477-5600. Tell us how y'all save money or how you got out of debt and give us information. That way we can learn from our listeners.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it's like to be a man. It's a lonely road.
SPEAKER 05 :
And they don't care about what you know It's not about how you feel But what you provide inside that home Being a man is what you make it You can't always live up to expectations You try to please everybody While you struggle so you fake it And end up out of balance Compromising situations as a good man
SPEAKER 06 :
The views and opinions expressed on KLZ 560 are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect those of Crawford Broadcasting, the station, management, employees, associates, or advertisers. KLZ 560 is a Crawford Broadcasting guide and country station.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hello, my name is Reno Kirkendall, owner of Blueprint Electric, where we specialize in all that's electrical, from residential service calls to ground-up commercial construction. You can reach us at 303-218-3555. Also, visit our website at bpedenver.com. Thank you for listening to A Guy's Perspective here at KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
Windshield, brand new, Clearview.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
Yes, this is Derwood Tate, pastor of the Upper Room United Pentecostal Church, here to invite you to be a part of our service this Sunday at 10 o'clock a.m. Our address is 1001 South Pearl Street in the Washington Park area. If you have any questions, you have a need for counseling or prayer, please give us a call as well, 720-532-4638. God bless everyone, and we look forward to seeing you this Sunday at 10 o'clock.
SPEAKER 04 :
i can't hide myself i don't expect you to understand i just hope i can explain what it's like to be a man it's a lonely
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to A Guy's Perspective, where they discuss real life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hello, everybody. This is the Guy's Perspective at 303-477-5600. We're back on the topic of money and how money benefits people. Just the word alone sounds good. Money just rolls off your tongue the right way.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
we were the last episode we were talking about cryptocurrency and investing and um you you mentioned you cashed in your cryptocurrency so that you could leverage things make moves um did you basically do that for your your new home is that yes uh the two things that uh we needed to invest in were uh um a different division for windshield replay repair company we we now replace
SPEAKER 13 :
So to expand your business? Business expansion. So that was about $70,000 to $80,000. Okay. And then the purchase of a home that needed to be completely remodeled and rehabbed. And that's what we pulled our money out for and invested into.
SPEAKER 11 :
How much do you think with the home you bought with all the real estate, what do you think the value of it's going to be once you're done with it?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, Lord willing. I mean, based on comps, comparative market analysis, the property should be for about 1.3.
SPEAKER 11 :
And how much did you get it for?
SPEAKER 1 :
400.
SPEAKER 11 :
So you got it for 400 and it's going to be worth 1.3. That's a huge investment. Most people would say, I'm taking that investment, I'm taking that gamble to level up.
SPEAKER 13 :
And it is. There's risk and then there's calculated risk.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's true. That's true.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And so I'd like to think that I'm taking calculated risk because remember, man, I lost my ass in the 08 crash.
SPEAKER 11 :
Tell us about that. How many pieces of real estate did you lose in 08?
SPEAKER 13 :
I had four properties. They were investment properties. And then I had a single family home and I had tenants and everything.
SPEAKER 11 :
So basically you lost five pieces of real estate. Okay, four. I lost one.
SPEAKER 07 :
I lost three. You lost three? And my total debt that I lost... It was close to $1 million. Oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 13 :
I was hoping my number was going to be higher. I had a $650,000 bankruptcy thereafter.
SPEAKER 11 :
So you look at it. Reno wins. We take risk and we leverage and we've learned from it because we were young when we lost the things we lost. Nowadays, we know what we're doing. And if anybody wants to call in and talk money and stocks, it's 303-477-5600. We encourage you to call in and talk to guys. We don't know everything.
SPEAKER 13 :
We're learning.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, if y'all know more than us, please give us a call at 303-477-5600 and teach us.
SPEAKER 13 :
What are those things, Brock? It's no risk, no reward. You know, so you have to risk. I mean, people risk on a relationship. People risk on driving a car. Yeah. I mean, how many risks do we take in our life? Eating some Chinese food that's a day late. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, I just did.
SPEAKER 13 :
I had some Korean food the other day and I was working. So I had some food and then I didn't eat all of it. I left it in the car and worked another four or five hours and I'm riding home and I eat it. I paid the price.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's amazing how money can shift obligations to time. If you have money or wealth, you can now dictate what your time and your day is going to look like.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, you buy back your time. That's what we want to do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, you want to buy back your time. If time's the most valuable thing you have on the planet and everybody's like, oh, there's not enough time, if you've got an abundance of money, you know how all the time.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you want to buy it back.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're driving down the street in the middle of the day and the Mercedes in front of you is just going so slow. They have nowhere to be. They have an abundance of money.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. Remember Rod? Okay, so Rod Smith used to, you know, he had... The business? Yeah, the coffee thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
And he used to tell us all the time that money is equivalent to time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wait a second. You all hung out with Rod Smith?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, he's a good dude. Our pastor knows him a lot better than us. But he was a cool dude. And in his business, his whole concept, at the time I couldn't understand it, Reno. His whole thing was money is translated into time. If you want more time, you make more money. I understand it now.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. But at the time I didn't. Yeah, you've got to buy back your time.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's such a true statement. But when you don't have a money mindset, you don't understand that. You don't understand the concept of money equals time or time equals money. It's lost to us.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it's during the COVID time. Me and my brother invested in some some stocks, just simple like penny stocks. I'll never forget this. And it was kind of cheap, generic stocks. We didn't think anything about it. We both threw like two hundred dollars at it or whatever. This is during COVID time. This thing grew from like $300 to a few thousand dollars. Yeah, it was insane. And he comes to me and he's like, hey man, what do you think we should do with this? And I'm like, let that stuff ride. Let it ride. Let's see what happens. Obviously, it crashed. We lost everything. But the point is, in my mind at least, I'm like, what's $100 or $200 if the investment is going to be so great?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and if you would have studied that stock, you would have known when to pull out. Look at the trends. And when it rose, you could have pulled it out. Let it go down and repurchase.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's funny you guys say trends. Like is there in the housing market, can you follow the trend in the housing market?
SPEAKER 13 :
I think I'm not 100% on this, but the housing market is one that like it's average. I don't know if it's like 10% or 15% increase all the time. Now, certainly you have peaks and valleys, right, highs and lows, but it's average over time is like 10% or better.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, another thing, it's... Which outperforms. Because refinancing your house, like a cash out, can be really good for your bank account. Like, when should a person refinance?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, if you refinance to pull that money out so that you can have like a vacation.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, no, no, no. I'm not talking about vacation. Foolish. That's foolish.
SPEAKER 13 :
But if you pull that money out and you remodel...
SPEAKER 07 :
a kitchen or something of that nature or invest in another opportunity you're just transferring that investment or putting the investment back in it into the house yeah well i wouldn't play with a mortgage no no no no yeah i wouldn't play with it but if you need to take that like he said to make a leverage yeah that's going to benefit your business
SPEAKER 11 :
I think, by all means, I would do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think. Some people pull out money from their house to start a business, and it's just a risk. Right. The business could flop, and they could lose what they invested, or the business could go sky high.
SPEAKER 11 :
What's the worst money investment a person can make? There's so many. What's the first one off the top of your head? A bad woman.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I was thinking wife.
SPEAKER 11 :
I was thinking wife, man.
SPEAKER 07 :
You get the wrong woman, you're going to struggle.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my. That's biblical right there, man. Yeah, you turn around and you – because divorce is expensive, man.
SPEAKER 13 :
He's right. Well, I'll second you with that. Not just a wife, but a partner, a business partner or something like that. So if you make a bad choice, then that will – uh, uh, uh, complicate your financial state.
SPEAKER 11 :
You said, why, if you say bad business, I say vehicles. Oh, that, you know, they dropped like that. I just don't understand how you drive your truck off the lot. And then the next day it lost $5,000 in value. I don't understand that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Here's the thing though, man. Like, I mean, I know a lot of people talk about vehicles and how they, how, you know, it drops like a stone in, in value, but When I buy a vehicle, Heath doesn't buy the vehicle. Clearview buys the vehicle. So I get the vehicle that I want because I spend 7, 10 hours a day in my vehicle. So my vehicle actually makes me money. I might just be massaging my mind to justify my purchase, but it makes me money. In a year, I've already had 35,000 miles put on my vehicle. One year. One year.
SPEAKER 11 :
How much money have you made off that, though?
SPEAKER 1 :
$170,000.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, well, then that's a good investment. Right. I think another bad investment is somebody who doesn't invest in their health. Or their self. Yeah, because if you can't get up and do the work because your body's messed up, how do you make money?
SPEAKER 13 :
See, and that's the buying the time, too, man, is because when you have money, are you going to eat better? At least you have the means to make the choice. You might not make the choice.
SPEAKER 07 :
I learned a lot from when my wife had gotten sick. She almost died. So she changed her health, her eating habits, which changed my eating habits. And from her learning it, I've learned a lot about your intake, your food intake, what you should stay away from.
SPEAKER 13 :
You're a clean eater? You eat clean?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, for the most part.
SPEAKER 11 :
So why is it that in America... Like they want to dump all kind of bad stuff into it. Because let's be real, you go to the store. No, no, seriously. You go to the store with groceries and it always seems like the sorry stuff is a lot cheaper than the good stuff.
SPEAKER 07 :
But if you go to other countries, they don't have health food stores. Really? And in the Ukraine, a friend of mine went to the Ukraine to adopt some children. So he made a visit. He was looking for milk. Okay. They didn't keep it in the... They didn't keep it refrigerated because... It doesn't go through the same process as here. Really?
SPEAKER 11 :
So in other countries, milk isn't in the refrigerators like it is here in America?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't know every country, but he told me. I didn't go myself to see myself.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and there's many countries that won't accept foods from America. They, like, ban them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, they took a German sausage and an American sausage, looked exactly the same. The sugar content in the American sausage was way higher than the German sausage. Or the sausage from Germany.
SPEAKER 13 :
The sugar epidemic, man. They put it in everything. Yeah, and Reno's right, man. This takes us down a whole different subject.
SPEAKER 11 :
And we're coming back to money. So at the end of the day, that's another bad investment, not investing in your health.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it is about money with the food because my opinion – I think America wants to keep you sick because they make money off of it. The medical industry is tied in with the pharmaceutical. FDA, Food and Drug Administration. So why is there high fructose corn syrup? In beverages. And they took it out, but then they put it right back. Some of the sodas that have glass bottles have high fructose corn syrup. People drink the glass bottles because there's no high fructose corn syrup. But you got to look at the label because some of them have it in there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Again, if anybody wants to talk to the guys about money, it's 303-477-5600. Jeff Bezos says, we are stubborn on vision. But we are flexible on details. Like, I think he says we're stubborn on vision. Like, you need to have a mindset on your vision. If your vision is to be wealthy, you don't let anybody take that away from you. Don't let your mom, your dad, your wife, your aunties, uncles. You have to have the mindset of money in order to obtain it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. What did Jesus say about how the people in his own country or something didn't believe in him? Yeah. That's kind of the same thing. The people who are closest to us don't always believe in the vision that we might have. So you have to seek outside sources, outside people that have the same ideal and vision.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just pick up a book.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, pick up a book. But it is good to, like, iron sharpens iron. It's good to have people with you that have either been there before. So what's it say? If you've got five millionaire friends, then you'll be the sixth.
SPEAKER 11 :
Again, if anybody wants to call and talk money, because we don't know everything, call and tell us. It's 303-477-5600. Again, this is for you men out there. We want to thank you for listening to our show. Give us a call and talk to us about money. If you think what we're saying is a bunch of garbage and we're just blowing smoke in the air, let us know. But I really believe that it all starts in the mind. If you don't have the mind to be wealthy, you won't be. we want to thank the women for listening to yes oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yes most definitely sister out there heather hey um but but it starts with your mind do you guys agree or does it start someplace else it's my set mindset it's my set yeah you change your mindset you'll change your uh your your bank account but if you if you don't have money how do you change your mindset how do you like tell yourself you can be wealthy It's not like a portal just opens up and you walk through it.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you just have to work on the books.
SPEAKER 13 :
But I do think we do get hypnotized, though, by watching others live their lives and make money. Wow, that is good. So we get hypnotized, but we don't have action. So we need to find actionable plans. So don't be lazy. Right, don't be lazy. But it is okay to accept, hey, I don't know everything, so maybe I need to yield to someone else that has been there or has done this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Again, people call us at 303-477-5600. We'd like to hear your perspective on money. Yeah, it's got to be a vision. It's got to be a mindset. I mean, if you want to attain that, you have to have the drive. You have to have the thought behind it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you have to be careful on who you take advice from. Oh, my goodness. Because if you wouldn't trade places financially with the person you're getting advice from, That is true, because that can ruin you.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you listen to the wrong advice, it can ruin you.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's huge. When I was doing my purchase of the properties and stuff, I was the money man or the person who had the credit to be able to buy the properties.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Um, and therefore I was listening to somebody, uh, uh, which was pseudo bad advice because all the leverage and all the risk was on me. Okay. Okay. Right. So I was the one to be able to lose from it. And, um, and so therefore I did, uh, it was bad advice.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey Mark, how's it going? Talk to us. I think we lost Mark. Oh. Oh, hey, Mark. How's it going?
SPEAKER 08 :
You're on air. You're on air. You guys want to know the way to make money?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, tell us. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go into sales whether you like it or not. That's it. So the old saying is this, and I am a perfect example of it, is that the D students are the most successful people and powerful people in the world, the ones that fail school.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Because they're the brightest minds.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree with this. They put their minds to everything and don't know what they're doing. Then you have the C students that work for the D students because they're the outgoing ones that make the sales. They love people, but they don't necessarily have the mobility to run a business. Then you have the B students, which are just the average person that just wants to work and make a paycheck. And then the A students are the really intellectual CFOs. organized, and think they know everything, but they really don't because the D student's the one that creates it. So my perfect example of that is Steve Jobs, okay?
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
So in that mentality, if you put it to that practice, you will make it happen. And then once you've learned the sales aspect, you can become a D student and let everybody work for you and make the hard choices, and then the money will just start flowing. And the best way to do that is to find a residual-based income. I don't own any stocks. I've never owned any stocks. I've just done sales my whole life. I've built a business and we do over a billion dollars in sales. And so, you know, we have learned a lot over the years. And that's what I tell people when I go around coaching businesses and I speak around the country talking about this very thing and how to do acquisitions. And the reality is, is find something that's going to make you money. That old guy that's got his established business and make it happen.
SPEAKER 11 :
Mark, can we ask you a question? How about you come into our show one day and talk with us boys?
SPEAKER 10 :
Drop this knowledge. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Anytime you want, guys. There's a lot of things that I've done. I've been on your station many times with John Rush. He's a good friend, but I also know what to do. A lot of people just don't understand the risks that it takes. You know what? I'll tell you, during COVID, it's difficult because I had to dip into my funds to pay for everybody. But the reality is that when you have a successful business and you've done sales, the sales is what creates a business because you understand every part of it. You understand everything. how to run it. You understand how to connect with the customer, where the POs are going, how much profits you're making, what, you know, who you're paying. It's just the whole thing of it. And you've got to know all that as a sales guy. And so if you don't learn that at the very beginning, you can live your life and invest and play it safe. But those people, if you look at all these successful companies, they're the ones that started in sales.
SPEAKER 13 :
Mark, we're going to have Charlie grab your number, man, so we could reach out to you and have you in on the show, maybe next Saturday when our show is on.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, please come on in and talk with everybody.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because we're empty vessels, man, and we want to learn, we want to level up, and we want to be able to be charitable and give back and help others.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Well, and you know, I mean, I've made a lot of mistakes over the years, and I've been on a high horse and been very egotistical, and I've seen consequences of my choices, unfortunately. But the reality is, as the Bible says, don't put your focus on the material possessions of the world. Put your focus on the possession of what Christ's giving you, which is the Bible. And when you really change your attitude towards that, and you stop chasing the ultimate funds of the material things, He's going to provide to you in ways you've never expected. And you don't necessarily even need to make $100,000 a year. It's where your money is. It's where your family is. And that's what's great.
SPEAKER 11 :
Stay on the line right now, and he's going to get your information. That way we can reach out to you and bring you into the show, man, if you don't mind.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely, dude.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'd love to. Thank you, Mark. So just hang on. I mean, that was amazing. You heard how much his company has done? I mean, when you start talking millions and billions of dollars, you've reached the pinnacle of what? You're a force.
SPEAKER 13 :
You've become a force, man. And I've had this wrestle with some people concerning capitalism. And yes, there can be wicked and evil, greedy people. But, hell, man, there's people wicked and evil and greedy down in the low level.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and they ain't got no money. They ain't got no money.
SPEAKER 13 :
They're trying to wrestle you for, yeah, little.
SPEAKER 07 :
I do agree with Mark. Science is the highest paid profession. A lot of people don't recognize it.
SPEAKER 13 :
In Reno, it's applicable to every business.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did you hear what – did he hear – I mean, I go to college for the last 10 years, get a science degree, and this man is talking about – D.C. students. And that's... Bro. I'm just a... Well, I try to be an A student, but... Bro, I was a... People know this.
SPEAKER 13 :
They'll know it now. I'm a super senior. I failed as a senior, so I had to take it a second round. But... but but i'll tell you this too man how do you fail your senior year i just i was a d student um but funny enough man like uh i i was always delegating like my sister and my mother would do my homework and stuff i was delegating from a young age oh i'm definitely i try to be the a student the problem with
SPEAKER 11 :
Working full-time, family, my plate's loaded when it comes to all that stuff. But he's right. Back to the money aspect of it, he's right. You men are salesmen with your business.
SPEAKER 13 :
We have to become better salesmen. And when we are, I think, like Arino said, man, when we're in sales, it doesn't matter what business.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, well, let's try to be salesmen right now. If you're listening to the guy's perspective and you want to sponsor, invest in us. We are a growing group of guys. We're bringing to the table something I don't think anyone's bringing.
SPEAKER 13 :
And, hey, let me lay this on you. I know that there are sponsors for many of the shows that are on here, and you're probably listening now, too. So we're looking for sponsors. And we're not looking to take the sponsors away, but, man, we need some coming to us. Because currently we have four sponsors with our show. And we're having a good time. And this is an investment to us. All of us are actually investing in this show. And we've been on for six months, eight months?
SPEAKER 11 :
About four months now.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
We have two minutes. And just to follow up with what he said, we believe in this cause. We're talking money today. And I know we're focused on guys right now because generally men are the breadwinners of their home. So if, for example, church, let's use church, for example. If you get the man to go to church, his family is going to follow. I mean, that's just the way it works. Usually. Well, usually. Usually. But normally, who's the breadwinner of the home normally? Normally, it's the man. Normally, it's the man. I know times have changed. Women can do anything a guy can do. They make just as much money. And I salute every... Listen, every woman out there, I tip my hat to you. I salute you. Good job. But today, we were focused on men and men making money. You know? Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, this has been a heavy one.
SPEAKER 11 :
This was a good show, man.
SPEAKER 13 :
I love the topic of money discussion, though. Yeah, just the way it sounds.
SPEAKER 10 :
Say money again. Say money again.
SPEAKER 13 :
Money.
SPEAKER 10 :
Arena. Money, man. That just rolls off your tongue. It just sounds like something really good.
SPEAKER 12 :
Was that bone slugging? Gotta have money, money. Gotta make that money, money.
SPEAKER 11 :
Gotta have some money. Everybody, see y'all later. We'll see y'all next Saturday. We're going to try to have Mark on the show with us, so everybody tune in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Bye. It's like to be a man It's a lonely road And they don't care about what you know It's not about how you feel
SPEAKER 05 :
you provide inside that home being a man is what you make it you can't always live up to expectations you try to please everybody while you struggle so you fake it and end up out of balance compromising situations as a good man
SPEAKER 06 :
The views and opinions expressed on KLZ 560 are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect those of Crawford Broadcasting, the station, management, employees, associates, or advertisers. KLZ 560 is a Crawford Broadcasting guide and country station.
In this episode, host Rick Hughes delves deep into the Old Testament tales of David and King Saul, unraveling how fear, jealousy, and political machinations impacted their lives and kingdom. With lessons drawn from David's experience of dealing with adversity through faith and moral convictions, listeners are prompted to reflect on their own journeys and the choices they make when faced with challenges. Join us for an enriching discussion that blends biblical history with real-life applications.
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
SPEAKER 01 :
Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around. As usual, always, it's about 30 minutes of motivation, inspiration, education, and and done without any type of human manipulation. That means we don't appeal to people for money. We don't ask to sell you anything. We're not trying to get you to join anything. We just want to give you some accurate information. Hopefully that information will help you verify and identify the plan of God for your life. And if you are of a mindset, you can orient and adjust to the plan. That's really up to you because God gave you volition. He gave you a chooser, a choice. And your life will be what you choose it to be. As a man thinketh in his heart, so he is, the Bible says. And that's the real you. So as we go through these Flotline radio shows, introducing the principles of the Flotline or the Forward Line of Troops, which simply is 10 unique problem-solving devices that you learn and deploy on the forward compartment of your soul so that you will think about these things when you come into adversity. And you will use these 10 problem-solving devices to stop the outside sources of adversity before they become the inside source of stress. So that's why we teach them. That's why we go into the Bible. That's why we get out these biblical principles and hopefully things that will encourage you and challenge you in the way that you think in your life. I hope so. So today we're going to remind you of a couple of things. We have all of our messages are transcribed. And as a matter of fact, all of 2019 are transcribed in three volumes. So if you'd like to read those, we make them available free of charge. Three nice-sized volumes of radio shows all transcribed. All of our radio shows are podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Breaker, Anchor. these different venues that offer podcasting, and you can listen there, and you can tap into the transcriptions from those podcasts as well. And of course, we have other books and material that we printed up and make available free of charge. So it's particularly the biblical principles and promises found in the Bible, one of our greater new books. A lot of people, there's not much narrative there, just a lot of Bible verses and and some simple principles that we put together. So hopefully you'll make use of those and contact us and get those for yourself or maybe for your friends and neighbors. Today we want to do kind of an Old Testament survey to draw some New Testament conclusions. In other words, to come up with some biblical principles that are applicable for us today in our life. So we're going to take a look at David who became the eventual king of Israel and how he allowed his fear to capture him and make a series of bad decisions. Now you and I know that none of us are perfect, no one, so we're not picking on David, but we're using that to look at these principles and apply them to our own life, but no one's perfect except the Lord Jesus Christ. But what we're going to take a look at is a lot of political intrigue by King Saul who became jealous of David, the future king of Israel. You may remember how David as a teenager was able to defeat the Philistine celebrity named Goliath from the city of Gath. And you need to remember what hometown he's from because it's going to be coming up in a minute, interesting, in the radio show. Goliath was from Gath and David killed him on the battlefield when the Philistines sent out their champion to challenge anyone from Saul's army to come out and fight him. And no one would until David showed up. And of course, you know the story how David defeated him in the dried up riverbed with a slingshot. So in 1 Samuel 17, verses 57 and 58, David is introduced to King Saul who really didn't know who he was. He just thought he had a sucker that would go down and distract the giant while he could maneuver his men to get behind him and maybe attack him from the rear. So 1 Samuel 17, 57, as soon as David returned from killing the Philistine, that's Goliath, Abner took him and brought him before Saul, with David still holding to Philistine's head. Now you can picture this. Here's this young teenage boy, maybe 18, 19, and he has the head of the decapitated giant in his hand, and Abner says, the king has got to see this, so come on with me, son. So blood dripping everywhere, up they go to see King Saul. And Saul said in verse 58, when he looked at him, whose son are you, young man? And David said, I am the son of your servant Jesse from the city of Bethlehem. Now, it didn't take much for Saul to recruit him on the spot and assign him a place in the army. Matter of fact, David never went back home from that day. Listen to 1 Samuel 18 too. From that day, Saul kept David with him and did not let him return home to his family. So he was drafted immediately into Saul's army when all he did was go down and take some cheese and bread to his brother's who were fighting the Philistines and nothing had been heard for 40 days. So Jesse said, you need to go down there and find out if your brothers are still alive and bring a report to me. He had no idea he's going to wind up being the champion of the battle and defeating the champion of the Philistines. That's what God does sometimes. God raises up invisible heroes out of nowhere. And he did it. So he never went back home. And it's here that Saul's son named Jonathan became best friends with young David. They became tight, really good friends. Listen to 1 Samuel 18, 3 through 4. Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself. That's close friendship love. Jonathan took off the robe he was wearing and gave it to David along with his tunic, even his sword, his bow, and his belt. Now, keep this in mind. David was a shepherd. He didn't have a military uniform and he just got recruited into the army. So rather than going to somewhere where they would be handed out some kind of weapon or clothes, Jonathan just took his off, took off his military robe, took his bow and arrow and his belt and his sword and gave it all to David. David had never fought with any of these things before. And Saul, of course, being impressed with David, he gave him a leadership position in his army. In 1 Samuel 18, 5, whatever mission Saul sent David on, David was so successful that Saul gave him a high rank in the army. And the Bible says this pleased all the troops and Saul's officers as well. So you can tell David wasn't arrogant. He was in a position that he didn't earn other than killing the giant, but he hadn't been to military training school. He hadn't graduated from officer's training class. He wasn't airborne, stuff like that. But here he is, and he's tremendously successful, and he must have a lot of humility. He must not be arrogant because everybody liked him. And at first, King Saul admired him also for his heroics. But eventually, the king became jealous of David's recognition. Listen to 1 Samuel 18, 5. Whatever mission Saul sent him on, David was so successful that Saul gave him a high rank in the army. I just read that to you, and this pleased all the troops. Now listen to verse 6. When the men were returning home after David had killed the Philistines, that's the missions that Saul sent him out on, The women would come out from all over town of Israel to meet King Saul, and they would be singing and dancing with joyful songs and timbrels and lyres, and that sounds sort of like a guitar. And they danced and they sang, and here's what they sang. Saul had slain his thousands and David his tens of thousands. No, Saul didn't appreciate that. Saul was very angry about that. This is a sin of jealousy. Verse eight, 1 Samuel 18, eight. Saul was very angry, got out of fellowship. And he had been out of fellowship for a long time. I'll share that with you shortly here. But this refrain displeased him greatly. And this is what he said. They've credited David with tens of thousands, he thought, but me, only 1,000. What more can he get but the kingdom? And from that time on, Saul kept a very close eye on David. Yep, he didn't like what they sang, and he was so arrogant that he didn't get the attention. So in 1 Samuel 18, 9 through 14, from that time on, Saul kept a close eye on David. And then in verse 10, the next day, an evil spirit came came upon Saul when he was prophesying in his house while David was playing the lyre, as he usually did to calm Saul down. Saul would want somebody to come play the guitar, some soft, sweet music, and calm him down. And he was all upset, and so they called for David, and David's there, and Saul's got all these mental attitude sins, and he has a spear in his hand. In verse 11, he hurled it towards David, thinking, I'll pin David to the wall and kill him. But David eluded him twice, so he threw it at him twice. In verse 12 of 1 Samuel 18, Saul was afraid of David because the Lord was with David but had departed from Saul. So he sent David away from him and gave him command over a thousand men, and David led the troops in their campaigns. And in everything he did, he had great success because the Lord was with him. Now, Saul's jealousy was attributed to God replacing him with a new king, and that was going to be eventually David. This is political intrigue. You could see this sort of stuff going on in our politics today, but notice the reason that God had selected a new king to begin with. Do you know why? Well, in 1 Samuel 15, 23, Samuel told Saul, because you rejected the word of the Lord, he's rejected you. Then Saul requested to Samuel, saying, I've sinned, I've violated the Lord's command, and what you told me to do, I did not do it because I was afraid of the men, and so I gave in to their demands. so please i beg you forget my sin and come back with me so i can worship the lord but samuel said verse 26 i will not go back with you you rejected the word of the lord and the lord rejected you as being the king of israel and then in first samuel 16 14 now the spirit of the lord departed from saul and an evil spirit tormented him So Saul had now instructs his son, Jonathan, his only son, to go out and kill his best friend. This is interesting, isn't it? Talk about political intrigue. Saul spoke to Jonathan, 1 Samuel 19, 1, and said to all of his servants, they should kill David. But Jonathan was Saul's son, delighting greatly in David, and he wasn't going to go for that. And so since he wouldn't try to kill David and Saul wanted him dead, Saul tried to kill his own son. In 1 Samuel 20, 30 through 33, Saul's anger, mental attitude, sins again, living by his emotions. If you let your anger get away from you, you're under emotional control of the soul. And as long as you let your emotions run you, you're going to make bad, bad, bad decisions. Your mind is designed to think, not emote. And whenever something happens in your life that you don't understand, you can react to it with anger and bitterness and frustration. or you can respond to it with faith and trust in the Lord. So Saul is very angry. His anger was aroused against Jonathan, and this is what he says to him. You son of a perverse, rebellious woman. You believe he blamed his mother? He blamed his mother for his attitude. That's what Saul did. Do I not know that you have chosen the son of Jesse, that's David, to your own shame and to the shame of your mother's nakedness? For as long as the son of Jesse lives on the earth, you will not be established, nor your kingdom. Now therefore send and bring him to me, and he will die. And Jonathan answered Saul his father and said, Why should he be killed? What has he done? And then Saul cast a spear at his son Jonathan to kill him. And now Jonathan knew that it was determined by his father he was going to kill David. Here are some principles you can learn from this. Fear makes bad decisions. And God's justice will eventually handle the issue, always, always. There are political things in our country I don't like, things that I see happening, people that I know who are behind the scenes causing waves. But it's not up to me or up to you to malign them and criticize them. It's up to the justice of God to handle the issue, and he will. He will expose, he will discipline, and he will handle things. Professional jealousy in politics as seen today is sort of like power struggles and power corrupts, total power totally corrupts. So powerful people in politics then and now are willing to kill so they can remain in power and that's exactly what was going on with Saul. He knew David was the future king and he was willing to kill him so he could remain in power. But it just wasn't as discreet as it is today in politics. Today it's more discreet, more behind the scenes, more manipulation. So Jonathan goes to tell David that his father has planned to kill him and lets him leave and flee. Here it is, 1 Samuel 20, 42. Jonathan said to David, you need to go in peace because we have both sworn in the name of the Lord, saying, may the Lord be between you and me and between your descendants and my descendants forever. So he arose, that's David, and departed, and Jonathan went back into the city. This was a mistake on Jonathan's part that would later cost him his life. Should have went with David instead of going back to where his father was. So here's David's first bad, really bad decision. He's on the run from Saul, and he goes to a town called Nob. David flees from Saul and goes to Nob. He goes into the survival mode. Fear turns to flight. And he goes to Nob where the temple is located and the Ark of the Covenant is there. In 2120 of 1 Samuel, David went to Nob to Amalek the priest. And Amalek trembled when he met him and said, why are you alone? Why is no one with you? And now David is going to hide and lie so he can secure provisions for himself. And so he lies to the priest. This is another bad decision. God never authorizes lying. He doesn't do that. If you're having to lie to maintain your position or lie to gain power, you are totally, totally out of line and totally wrong. So here's his lie. David said to Elimelech the priest, the king ordered me on some business, ha, ha, ha, ha, and said to me, don't let anyone know anything about what I'm sending you to do or what I commanded you to do, and I've directed my young men to such and such a place. So therefore now, what do you have on hand? get me five loaves of bread so I can be fed. And the priest Elimelech said, well, there's no common bread on hand. There's only the holy bread. If the young men here have at least kept themselves from women, And David answered the priest and said unto him, Truly women have been kept from us for about three days since I came out, and the vessels of the young men are holy, and the bread is in effect common, even though it was consecrated on the vessel this day. So the priest gave him holy bread, for there was no other bread, nothing but the show bread which had been taken from him before the Lord, in order to put the new hot bread in its place. on the day when he was taken away. Now this is, let me explain what that is. Every day, they had showbread sitting on a table in front of the Ark of the Covenant. Each loaf weighed about four pounds, and there were probably 10 or 12 loaves of showbread there. And they changed it every seven days. So this bread that he's getting is seven days old. But it's enough to feed himself and the men that were with him. Now, Here's the problem. A certain man of the servants of Saul happened to be there that day, and his name was Doag the Edomite. Now this is a real rat here, the real rat. He's a chief of the herdsmen who belonged to Saul. And David said to Elimelech, is there not here on hand a weapon like a spear or sword? Because I didn't bring mine, and I don't have any weapons. So I had to be in a hurry, and the king's business required haste. And verse 9, so the priest said, well, the sword of Goliath is here, the Philistine that you killed. And there it is wrapped in the cloth behind this epithet. You can take that if you want it, for there's nothing else here. And David said, there's none like it. Give it to me. So he got bread and he got Goliath's sword. That's show bread. Interesting stuff. There was at least 10 to 12 cakes of bread, as I said, each weighing about 4.5 pounds. And Doag the rat is there and sees all of this. 1 Samuel 22, 9 and 10. But Doag the Edomite, who was standing with Saul's officials, said to Saul, I saw the son of Jesse come to Amalek, the son of Ahitub, at Nob. And Amalek inquired of the Lord for him, and he also gave him provisions and a sword of Goliath of Philistine. So he goes back and reports it to Saul, to Saul what he saw. But here's the tragedy of the story. This deception, this deception by David of Emelech cost this priest and his entire staff their lives once Saul found out David had been there. Listen to what happened. And I know David must have felt horrible about this. He had no idea that lying to this priest was going to cost all these people their lives. Just like today's politics, lying costs people lives every day. In 1 Samuel 22, 11, so the king sent to him elect the priest, the son of Ahitub, and all of his father's house. all the priests were in nob and they all came to the king and saul said listen up now son of a hit tube and he answered well i'm here my lord what would you like and he said why did you conspire against me you and the son of jesse and that you've given him bread and a sword and you inquired of god for him that he should rise against me to lie in wait as it is this day. And Ahimelech answered the king and said, well, who among all your servants is faithful to David? I mean, who's the king's son-in-law? Who goes at your... See, David even married his daughter, Saul's daughter. And who goes at your bidding and is honorable in your house? Did I then do something wrong? When I began to inquire of God for him, far be it from me, let not the king impute anything to his servants or anything to the house of my father, for we knew nothing about this, little or much nothing. And the king was so mad, he said in verse 16, you're going to die. Ahimelech, you and all of your father's house are going to die. And the king said to the guards who stood about him, turn and kill the priests of the Lord. because their hand is with David, and because they knew when he fled, he didn't tell me. And the servants of the king would not do it. They would not lift their hands to strike the priest. And so the king turned to Doag, the shepherd, the one that reported to him. You kill him. You do it. So Doag the Edomite turned and struck the priest and killed him on that day, killed 85 men who wore the linen ephod. Also Nob, the city of the priests, he struck with the edge of the sword, both men, women, and children, and nursing infants, donkeys, and sheep with the edge of the sword. He killed everybody. Everybody in that town was killed. All the priests were murdered because David told a lie. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. What a guilt that would be on David's conscience. So a third bad decision is that David now tries to flee to Achish, the king of Gath, and pretends to be crazy to escape death. You know, David must have been in his early 20s about this time, but in 1 Samuel 21 10, David arose and fled that day from Saul and went to Achish, the king of Gath. And the servants of Achish said to him, is this not David? king of the land did they not sing about him to one another you know saul is slain thousands and david his tens of thousands they recognized who he was and david took these words to heart and was very much afraid fear panic ploy afraid of achish the king of gas so he changed his behavior before them he pretended to be mad in their hands and he scratched at the door of the gate and he let his saliva fall on his beard and achish said to his servant look This man's insane. Why have you brought him to me? Do I need a madman that you brought this fellow to play the madman in my presence? You think I'm going to let this fellow come into my house? And he ran him off. And David fled to Adelam, which was eventually a good decision because he went to the caves of Adelam. So David left Gath, escaped to the caves of Adelam where his brothers and his father's household heard about it. And they all came down to join him there. Everybody's at the caves of Adullam. There they are, the family and everybody. And David wants his family protected from the wrath of Saul. He had already found out that Saul killed everybody in Nob, all the priests and everything. So David goes to the king of Moab and asks for protection for his family since his great-grandmother was a Moabite named Ruth. The Bible talks about Ruth, the book of Ruth. And so in 1 Samuel 22, 2 through 4, and everyone who was in distress and everyone who was in debt, everyone who was discontented gathered together to David, and he became their captain, and there were about 400 men with him. And David went from there to Mizpah of Moab, and he said to the king of Moab, Please let my father and my mother come here with you till I know what God's going to do with me. So he brought them before the king of Moab, and they dwelt with him all the time that David was in the stronghold. So he secured safety for his family. That's nice. And now, interesting enough, David spares the king's life, which is a great decision that he made. Your life may be recognized for several great decisions that you make. Number one, the children you bore into this world and how you raised them. Number two, the spouse that you married and how you treated her. Number three, the course of business that you got into and how you did business. You're going to be known for these. So this is something David was known for. In 1 Samuel 24, 1 through 16, he had a chance to kill Saul, and he wouldn't do it. He spared his life. It happened when Saul returned from following the Philistines that it was told to him, saying, Listen, David is in the wilderness of Engadi. So Saul took 3,000 chosen men from all of Israel and went after David and his men on the rocks of the wild goats of the caves and cliffs of Engadi. And he came to the sheepfold by the road, and there was a cave. And Saul went in to attend to his needs. And David and his men were staying in the recesses of that very cave. And then the men of David said, this is the day the Lord gave to you. And behold, I will deliver your enemy into your hand that you can do to him as it seems good to you. David rose up and secretly cut off the corner of Saul's robe. I don't know if you understand what he was doing, but he went in privacy to go to the bathroom. So he was squatting in a cave and the cave is where David and his men were hiding. So David snuck up on him and he cut off the corner of his robe. Do you hear that? Do you understand that? And so then the men of David said, go kill him. And David rose and secretly cut off the corner of Saul's robe. And it happened afterward that David's heart troubled him because he did that. And he said to his men, the Lord forbid that I should do this thing to my master, the Lord's anointed one, Saul, to stretch out my hand against him, seeing that he's anointed of the Lord. So David restrained his servants. And with these words, he did not allow them to rise up against Saul. And Saul got up when he was finished and walked out of the cave on his way. David walked out behind him, called his name, my Lord, the King. And Saul turned around and saw him. And David bowed with his face to the earth. And David said to Saul, why do you listen to the words of men who say indeed David wants to do you harm? Look, this day your eyes have seen the Lord delivered you to me in that cave. Others urged me to kill you, but with my eyes I spared you. And I said, I will not stretch out my hand against my Lord. He is God's anointed. Moreover, my father, see this? Yes, look, the corner of your robe is in my hand because I cut off the corner of your robe and did not kill you. And you can see there's no evil, no rebellion in my hand. Wow. Can you imagine that? Here's Saul in the cave thinking he's in privacy going to the bathroom while his men were bivouacked outside behind the bushes. And it's the very cave David was hidden in. And David spared his life. He didn't kill him. He did not kill him. He could have, but he did not. Think about that and the political intrigue we have today. The fear, the murder, behind the scenes, things that go on. None of that honors God. And none of it will never honor God in your life either. There's a lot more to talk about this story. I hope you'll stay with me. We'll come back next week and try to finish it up. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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And where the Iranian... nuclear enrichment programs are and all of the problems that the world is facing are going to be eradicated if they don't come to the bargaining table and back the heck off and we make sure somehow that President Trump is satisfied with the assessment that they will not be able to acquire nuclear weapons. They don't do that, all bets are off. But as Caroline Leavitt announced yesterday, and you could tell she had a sense of urgency a little bit. Here's cut number one. Here's the White House press secretary, the extraordinary White House press secretary, I might add, making the announcement that President Trump is essentially giving Iran two weeks to make a deal.
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Regarding the ongoing situation in Iran, I know there has been a lot of speculation amongst all of you in the media regarding the president's decision-making and whether or not the United States will be directly involved. In light of that news, I have a message directly from the president, and I quote, based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks. That's a quote directly from the president for all of you today.
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Now, look, this is a time for serious, somber, sober realization that some terrible things might unfold in the world, right? Wouldn't you want all of us Americans to be kind of rooting for peace? In other words, wouldn't we collectively not wish for awful things to happen? And I get that people like Stephen Colbert hate Donald Trump. I understand it. I recognize it. Look, I don't even oppose... You have a right to like or dislike any president, any senator, any politician you want. But at a serious crossroads like this, wouldn't you expect... that the same people who always bag on Trump might just back off a little bit? Wouldn't they, wouldn't you consider, I mean, let me play the clip of Stephen Colbert mocking what you just heard. You've got the, and you could tell, you could hear it in her voice, the sense of urgency, the sense of purpose, the sense of, you know, a very distinctly different Caroline Leavitt, it seems to me. And look, these are serious times. This is very problematic. Iran, with a nuclear weapon, could wipe out an American city. Millions of us could perish in the blink of an eye. That's not alarmism. And perhaps a little more realistically, Israel could be completely obliterated. The tiny nation of Israel could be eradicated. This is a very serious time. And this is how a late-night talk show host named Stephen Colbert, with I'm sure... I don't know, a million, two million, whatever these late-night shows garner for ratings. But with online engagement and the broadcast version, a lot of people saw and heard this response to President Trump's warning to Iran that you have two weeks.
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Yes, because two weeks' notice is so important. Trump understands that starting a war in the Middle East is a lot like quitting your sales job at Best Buy. It's just polite.
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That's funny. I know that he's, I'm sure, charged with trying to make the audience laugh and clap and all of that, but is this funny to them? Is nuclear armament on the part of a dangerous terrorist regime humorous to Stephen Colbert? Look, I know a little bit about his story. I mean, I think he lost... I think his parents or his brother, maybe he's lost loved ones. I think it was a plane crash. Guys had lots of, I'm sure, personal tragedy and adversity. People are dying right now. People are getting blown up. Israel is being attacked. Israel is trying to take out Iran's nuclear. Is this funny to people? I honest to gosh, I'm not trying to be Pollyanna here. But I wonder if there's anything that could happen in the world that would change the tone and the tenor of the Stephen Colberts of the world, the Trump critics. Do you think, and let me just put it to you, do you believe, I think about 9-11. I was, you know, not far from where I'm seated right now in lower Manhattan. I am just a couple of blocks away right now from where the Twin Towers fell. I was in the Empire State Building that morning, and I remember how different New York City, the country, and the world became after the terrorists did the unthinkable. You know how there was a difference? People on the left, Democrats, were not tearing into George W. Bush. Do you remember? That kind of comedy that you just heard from Stephen Colbert didn't happen in the weeks and months after September 11th, 2001. It didn't happen. They didn't do that. We were unified. We were Americans hoping for peace and trying to get through it together collectively. Well, if, God forbid... L.A. was decimated by a nuclear attack, would Stephen Colbert change his tune? Would the critics and the haters and the Monday morning quarterbacks back off? Or would they keep doing it? If Stephen Colbert had a talk show during 9-11 and George Bush, a Republican, was the president, Would he have laid into and mocked George Bush the way he mocks Trump? Or is it just a Trump thing? In other words, is this all just Trump hatred or is it hatred for an ideology that is represented by the Republican Party? These are questions I don't have any answers to. But maybe you do. So let's try. 800-655-MIKE as we welcome you in. It's Friday, June 20th, 2025 in the Relief Factor studios. I'd like to know if you think, if the unthinkable occurred, if you believe that the Stephen Colberts of the world would change their tune. Would they back off? Last night, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled unanimously in favor of President Trump and his ability to keep the National Guard in California. It was a devastating loss for Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom took to social media and acted like he won when he got completely demolished by a unanimous liberal Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. They're so deranged with Trump hatred, they can't even acknowledge when Trump beats them in the courts. They pretend it didn't happen. We're living in such weird times, and we're at a point where, again, right is left, up is down, good is portrayed as evil, evil portrayed as good. These people are out of their minds. And I wonder if anything could occur in your mind that could make them change. 800-655-MIKE. Tell me what you think. I really want your assessment about what... would happen to the Trump critics, will they... Let me put it this way. Will they ever root for America to succeed while Trump is president? Will they ever cheer on success and peace? Will they ever hope that America wins, even under the leadership of Donald Trump? Or... Will they always hope that America fails because he's the president? I'd love to get your take on this. 800-655-MIKE. One number does it all. Call, text. We have an open line for you now. I hope you join us. 800-655-6453. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life. And I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me, I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Mike Gallagher.
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Live look at Dallas, Texas. If you're watching on Salem News Channel, we are making kind of our debut in the Salem News Channel state-of-the-art studios in lower Manhattan in New York City, where thus far I haven't been. I just have to hide my Diet Coke bottle here. Boy, these cameras are unforgiving. But it's, you know, so far nobody's lit me on fire. I took the subway today. New York seems relatively peaceful. Not a lot of peace in terms of the commentariat. Big article at commentary.org. Israel and America are telling the mullahs of Iran, enough, enough. You can't do this anymore. You've got to stop. And I just wish, let me clarify or specify. I wonder if there's anything that could happen in the country or the world that would make the Trump hatred dissipate? Would anything unify the people who hate Trump? 800-655-MIKE. Denver's in London, Ohio. Hey, Denver, how are you? Good, Mike. How are you doing? I'm all right. I'm just frustrated, and I'm wondering if you have an answer to my question. Is there anything that could happen to make them stop with the Trump hatred?
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Mike, you know, it's Michael Colbert of our United States that live under the blanket of freedom that our president and our soldiers have provided. And I don't think so. I think the left is so deranged that, you know, until they experience something like what's going on in the Middle East, they'll never know.
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I thought that too. You know, that's a good point. I wonder if they're just oblivious to what it feels like to wonder if a missile is going to wipe out your family. I wonder if they saw, I wonder if Stephen Colbert saw the effects of the October 7th Hamas massacre. I mean, I did. It changed me forever. I saw what evil looks like up close and personal. Maybe they're just oblivious. Maybe it's ignorance. But it seems worse than that. It seems deeper than that. It seems like a level of hatred that we've never experienced before. Robert in Delaware. Robert, welcome back. How are you?
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Good. Good. Good to talk to you, Mike. Thanks, Rob. Stephen Colbert has got to be the absolute worst. You've ever heard the old saying that birds of a feather flock together. You know, all of the late night jokes that tear our country apart and divide us. It's it's truly sad.
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But he's not the only one. And, you know, it's funny if we went through a contest to say, well, who's the worst? I mean, where do you stop on a Navarro legislators the same way?
SPEAKER 09 :
OK, so we have Nancy Pelosi, which has made 40 million in the House. And then we have Chuck Schumer. I mean, we can go on.
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Jasmine, Jasmine, Jasmine Crockett. I mean, you go down the list and it's the craziest time to witness a collective anti-American environment. That's the thing you can't lose. You can't take your eye off the ball and forget that. They're hating on America. They're not hating on Trump. Now, you know, we said that all through both campaigns or all three campaigns. You know, they don't want to stop Trump. They want to stop the movement he created. But the truth is, this is way deeper than just Trump derangement syndrome. It's America derangement syndrome. They hate this country. I don't know how else to describe it. Look at Jasmine Crockett, cut 10. Here she was, I guess she was on The View or one of the shows. This is cut 10. Here's Jasmine Crockett after she called Trump supporters mentally ill. She's complaining that the guy, Donald Trump, who was nearly assassinated at least twice... has security.
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Here's the deal. I do this job and the fact that my safety is a part of doing this job is really bad in and of itself. But while we spend millions upon millions just so that this guy can go and golf or while they spent $45 million for his little birthday parade.
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Yeah, you can't spend millions if he wants to play golf. We can't spend that kind of money. She's more worried about her personal safety than the president of the United States. And thankfully, and I hope and pray nobody will ever try to kill her the way they tried to kill Trump. It's unreal. This hatred is out of control. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com. Use the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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Why do I always rush right into the things I should stay away from? I don't have to talk about everything on this show. I don't. I don't have to dive in. I don't need to rush in. I can avoid certain things. But instead, I have this propensity to tackle difficult, thorny, complicated issues, like President Trump today calling for the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate allegations that there was election fraud, widespread election fraud, if you will, in 2020. where he says that he really won by a landslide. Now, again, the smart Mike would probably avoid this because it's just going to cause all kinds of headaches. We got, you know, he's got a lot of decisions to make about Iran. This is a complicated issue. We've got crime, the border, the economy, and he now has called for a special prosecutor. after FBI Director Kash Patel revealed the other day that he shared alarming allegations about the 2020 election. There's two things I should avoid today, and I'm going to probably cover them both. In fact, let's cover them both now. What the heck? It's Friday. We made it through another week. I took the subway today in New York City. Nobody lit me on fire or shot me or stabbed me. You know, I'm having a pretty good day. So I'm going to talk about the idea of a special prosecutor for election fraud allegations, and I'm going to talk about Juneteenth. That was yesterday. Because I don't know where I land on either one of these, but I'll speak from the heart and I'll see where you are. Here's Trump's post on Truth Social moments ago. Zero border crossings for the month for Trump versus 60,000 for sleepy, crooked Joe Biden, a man who lost the 2020 presidential election. By a landslide, Biden was grossly incompetent and the 2020 election was a total fraud. The evidence is massive and overwhelming. A special prosecutor must be appointed. This cannot be allowed to happen again in the United States of America, he says. Let the work begin. What this crooked man and his corrupt cronies have done to our country in four years is grossly indescribable. Make America great again. Now, I've got a lot of people, a lot of friends, colleagues who say, can he let this go? Can he not leave this alone? Why must he continue to harp on 2020, they say? And while I respect that question, I have to say to them, if our elections aren't pure and clean and fair, it's going to happen again. Now, they argue, well, yeah, maybe, but look what happened in 2024. And let's face it, they're right. But if Kash Patel has unearthed substantive information that suggests that there was corruption and cheating all under the guise of COVID, and we know that's probably how it happened, if it happened, well, then we ought to do something about it. instead of just hoping it goes away and fades away from our memory. And even if you hate the guy, don't you think he's right that we must never let this happen to America again? So here we go. Diving in. I'm on the high diving board, plunging in. And I'm going to open up the phone lines. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Call, text, join us. Here on the Mike Gallagher Show. 800-655-MIKE. Should we expect, agree with... Hope for a special prosecutor to investigate what Trump believes was his widespread victory in 2020. Do you agree that it's time for a broad, full-scale investigation? Or do you kind of wish he left it alone? 800-655-MIKE. We're in the Relief Factor studios for a Friday. Your voice. Also, you've got to hear about the guy that fell in love with an AI bot. It's made the rounds. It's gone viral. We'll share that with you as well. We'll also get... An update from Roger P. Shulman in our newsroom about the attempt to create an alligator Alcatraz in Florida for illegals. We just got a lot to cover. 800-655-MIKE. Join us.
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Mike Gallagher.
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A live look of New York City, lower Manhattan, where we are today. Broadcasting on the Salem News Channel Airwaves Studios. If you're watching on SNC.TV, you're seeing a beautiful shot of one of the most magnificent skylines ever. In the world. You know, there's a part of me that dreads even going down this path. But look, President Trump's making news here and suggesting that a special prosecutor is needed to investigate the 2020 election. Claiming that, you know, he won in a landslide. Says the evidence is overwhelming. My pillow text line... Absolutely blowing up with everybody seemingly agreeing. I don't see anybody saying it's a bad idea. Is it a bad idea to launch a full-scale investigation into the 2020 election? Earlier today, President Trump called on a special prosecutor to investigate. Let's see what you think. 800-655-MIKE. We'll start with Tish in Kentucky. Tish, thanks for joining us. Welcome. How are you?
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I'm fine. But actually, I'm in southern Illinois. I'm like five minutes from Paducah, Kentucky.
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Got it. Got it.
SPEAKER 01 :
Got that straight. Owens is.
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Gotcha. Well, we know.
SPEAKER 01 :
I don't care if I was President Trump. If it had been 20 years, I would still have it investigated. Even if he couldn't prosecute, maybe he could have it investigated for it to never happen again. He deserves to know.
SPEAKER 12 :
We all deserve to know. I mean, look, we deserve to know. Americans deserve to know. Look, people get into this whole thing where, oh, it's a giant conspiracy theory. Biden got millions and millions more votes than Donald Trump in 2020. And I can promise you, nobody really believes that. Now, ultimately, it was really close. It came down to... really, in electoral count and even popular vote count, a sliver. And that's why I always cringe when I heard, well, there was no evidence of widespread election fraud. If you just barely win an election, you don't need widespread election fraud. You just need a little bit of election fraud to tip the scales. And, you know, if cheating took place, So that Biden, who never let, look, I just finished this book by, what's his name, Chris Whipple. The whole strategy of keeping Biden in the basement in 2020 wasn't just COVID. It was that they didn't want to dare put him in front of the American people. They had him sequestered. They had him locked down. Trump was going to the opening of an envelope. Trump got COVID. Remember that? Right before the election? And you think about the parallels to getting COVID at his age, and reportedly he was pretty sick, and getting shot in Butler, Pennsylvania. Many of us believe that the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania helped secure his victory. A lot of people said he's a fighter. And I know he symbolized being a fighter by that iconic moment when he stood up and thrust his fist in the air and said, fight, fight, fight. You want to know what a real fight is? To be apparently sick as a dog, running for president, and weeks before the election, you wind up getting hospitalized, and then you recover, and you climb a flight of steps to demonstrate you're okay, and you go back to work. That's a fighter. Well, America saw that, but evidently it wasn't enough. We were good with a locked-down, miserable country And wanted Joe Biden. Have a real hard time accepting that. Now, maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Could be. Could be. And look, there's a big part of me that understands if 2020 hadn't happened the way it did, we wouldn't be where we are now. But the fallacy of that argument is arguably things would be a heck of a lot better in 2025 than they are now. Tom in Connecticut, you're on the Mike Gallagher Show. Hi, Tom.
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Hi, Mike Gallagher. Hello. I think absolutely it needs to be investigated, not because Republican or this or Democrat that, simply because there were crimes committed, fraud, or treason for that matter. and other crimes that we don't even know about yet until they bring out the investigation in full. So primarily, yes, it needs to get done. There were crimes committed that need to be found out. So, yes, it does not happen again in America.
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I got you. Thank you, Tom. Sorry, I pushed the button too quick. I appreciate you very much, Tom. That's the point. He's right. It must never happen again, if it happened the way President Trump is alleging. I mean, here's a great text from Tampa, Florida. It's quite staggering, actually. Biden's campaign used in real time for cover that he was too old and feeble to be in the public during COVID to hide the fact that he was too old and feeble to actually be president. Look, this would, if you read these books, and there's a lot of them being written, even the Jake Tapper book, And the Whipple book, I recommend that. I'm drawing a blank on the name. Tracy, can you put the name of that book? Oh, Uncharted. Thanks, Tracy. You're one step ahead of me, as usual. Uncharted by Chris Whipple. It's fascinating. And he's not a conservative. He's a Washington or New York journalist. who did a deep dive into the Biden and the Kamala and the Trump campaigns. And all of these narratives are emerging that they absolutely locked Biden down during the 2020 campaign because they were petrified that if the American people saw who he really is, there's no way he could win. And incidentally, a word I use too much, but P.S., it worked. It worked. You know? He was in the White House, stumbling around, doing a lot of damage. And this would go down. Look, there's not a scandal that could come close. If there was cheating, if the election was rigged, not even a scandal that comes close. Nothing comes close. Watergate, cakewalk. So, yeah, there's a part of me that wishes Trump would let it go. There's a part of me that just says, and you hear that from a lot of smart people, too, that say, don't look, let 2022 go. Let's worry about today. Let's worry about moving forward. But consider this. If there was a concerted, orchestrated effort to rig the election, to cheat in 2020... That's exactly what those scoundrels would want. Move on. Let it go. Don't worry about it. And look, they never let January 6th go. They banged that drum for as long as humanly possible. If Trump didn't get elected, they'd still be banging that drum. They'd still be screaming about January 6th to the mountaintop. We're supposed to move on from 2020? You saw all the Trump rallies, the packed stadiums, the exuberance, the yard signs everywhere. You saw the nine people who'd show up for Biden in a parking lot while he was wearing nine masks and a couple of horns honking in the background limply, weakly. W-E-A-K, not by the week. So I don't know. I mean, I kind of am torn. On the other hand, I think he's right. I think he's right.
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Recognize it?
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Of course. What is it, the 50th anniversary?
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50th anniversary of Jaws. Terrified me. Was 15-year-old Mike Gallagher in a theater seat? Oh, yeah. Scared me to death. Have you revisited?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I haven't seen it in years, but I remember... It's ridiculous.
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It's cheesy, right? Because, first of all, with computer-generated this and CGI that, the ability to have incredible reality just makes everything from the past look silly. But, of course, the acting is still great. Roy Scheider is still great. Richard Dreyfuss, the great Robert Shaw. Farewell and adieu, dear Spanish ladies. It's a fantastic film. And the genius of it... is you didn't see the shark for forever. You know why? Anticipation of the shark. Oh, because Bruce wasn't working. Bruce was the shark and they were having huge technical problems.
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They had all kinds of technical problems. So Spielberg improvised and he said, well, look, we'll just make it like the theater of the mind.
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We'll make people worry about what's out there. And man did it work. Speaking of old, speaking of old, let me give you something that does not hold up well. And it just it was on. I said, let me watch three minutes of this. Watch the entire two hours. Revisited the original Terminator. I'll be back with Arnold and and Linda Hamilton. It's iconic. It's one of the great films of my lifetime. And it's so cheesy. And the acting is so. So horrible. But it's James Cameron's first work. But you don't care because it's just such a part of your. But here's the thing. Last thing on this. I've got a few things in the news to talk about. But, you know, the whole premise. First of all, you know, the whole premise of Terminator is it starts out. You're in some distant future, some dystopian future with lasers. And you know what year that is? 2025. 2027. Wow. Exactly. It'll be like Trump's term now. It's like, wait a minute, what? But the other thing, I forget what the other thing was. Oh, the very premise. How did things go so horribly wrong? How did the future become so terrible? Right. Computers. Yep. So Reese, you know, whoever the Michael Biehn character is describing this to Sarah Calder said, what happened is we made these machines and they got smarter than us and they started to take over and we didn't want them to take over. And we were at war with the robots. It's what's happening. It's AI. The movie is prescient. It's exactly what we all feared.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know what I watched last night? I watched the Bob Dylan biopic with Timothee Chalamet.
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And you know what?
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm not a big Dylan guy. Never have been. But I am now. In fact, actually, if Bob Dylan really sang the way Timothee Chalamet did, I'd like his music. Because he sings better. I mean, I think he hosted.
SPEAKER 11 :
He hosted or was the musical guest on SNL a few and did like some Dylan songs. Yeah, he sings. And was so true to them, and he's an incredible actor.
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And incidentally, can we tip the hat to actors today? You know, we bag on Hollywood, but you think about it. Back in the day, if they did a movie like that, well, they would just dub in Bob Dylan's voice. These actors today are expected to inhabit and absolutely own the part, and this kid sings like Bob Dylan.
SPEAKER 11 :
I've got to see it. I've heard it's great. Oh, I loved it.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a really interesting... I mean, it was kind of a weird build-up. It kind of boils down to whether or not he's going to sing the things that he became famous for, Blow Into the Wind and everything, at the Newport Folk Festival, or would he introduce the more guitar, electric guitar... Electric guitar.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which he did. Which he did. And changed everything.
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But the crowd, well, you know, this is stupid. This is idiotic. I don't know how this ends because I'm at the part where he does that and he's playing with the electric guitar in front of the Newport Folk Festival and the executives are screaming in the background. They're mad at him. And the crowd is throwing objects at him because they hate it because it's not Joan Baez, you know, and Peter Paul. But I don't know how it ends because the flight finally landed that I was four hours late on.
SPEAKER 11 :
I was going to say, did you watch this on the plane at 11 o'clock last night?
SPEAKER 12 :
I was on the plane, and I decided not to watch it until it took off. It was so weird. Air travel today. We got on the plane. Pilots said, okay, we're good to go. Now we've got a two-hour delay. You can get off the plane.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, no. I didn't know that you had boarded, and then they yanked you off the plane. This is from trying to get from Tampa to LaGuardia. You were due to come out at 3 o'clock, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Three times they did that. Three times, everybody gets on the plane. Then he says, whoops, we've got a two-hour delay. You can get off the plane. Everybody gets off the plane. Then we're getting ready to go. It's going to be 5 o'clock. Get on the plane. Whoops, we've got another two hours. Get off the plane. It was unbelievable. And, you know, I've got to hand it to people. People were pretty calm and normal. And, you know, when these travel things happen, they happen. Nobody went nuts. You know, nothing you can do. By the way, I also want to add.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's weather. How do you not know? I mean, I understand weather delays, but don't you kind of know?
SPEAKER 12 :
What they were saying is storms were blowing up in LaGuardia, and we're sitting on the runway in Tampa. Well, when LaGuardia does a ground stop, then it suspends stuff leaving Tampa, I guess. By the way, can we just take a moment and salute technology before we get into all the other, you know, the world coming to an end with World War III.
SPEAKER 11 :
AirPods.
SPEAKER 12 :
Are they not the best invention since the remote control for the TV?
SPEAKER 11 :
Especially on a plane because they've got cords all over the place. Everywhere. And I try to get up to go to the bathroom and I strangle myself. Everywhere.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm listening to you this morning. I mean, I'm walking. I took the subway today. I'm in New York. It's a crisp, cool morning here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sure you did.
SPEAKER 12 :
I did. I took the subway. Are you insane?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it's fine. While the AirPods are in, you can hear my show while you're being stabbed by a vagrant.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. I'm being lit on fire. I can hear you talk and do a musical birthday. It's really a good way to go. And I do want to apologize as I listen to the app, as I always do. It must be so jarring for people to turn on the Mark Davis show and hear a 30 or 60 second commercial entirely in Spanish.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know how that happens.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're called programmatic ads, and we have no say in it, apparently. It's the way they get inserted by a third-party provider. For the record, neither Mark or I or the station have anything to do with that. But it's weird. Like, why would you even do it? Why don't we just have something in Mandarin, you know? I know. I get there's a lot of Hispanic people in the world. Farsi. Why not? What happened to diversity, right? I know. And people get mad at us. I get these text messages. Mike, do you know why I'm listening to Mark and Mike? Let's start with Gavin Newsom. This is something that is such an intriguing habit that the Democrats have that just drive me crazy. They lose big time and make no mistake, when the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals rules in favor of Donald Trump. Unanimous. You know that's pretty profound, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
This is about his ability to keep control of the National Guard in California.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct. And they were unanimous. Did you see what Gavin Newsom posted about it? Now, is he just nuts? And I guess this is gaslighting. I guess that's what this means. He posted at midnight last night, Donald Trump is not a king and not above the law. Tonight, the court rightly rejected Trump's claim that he can do whatever he wants with the National Guard and not have to explain himself to a court. We will not let this authoritarian use of military soldiers against citizens go unchecked. Wait a minute. You lost.
SPEAKER 11 :
What do you mean the court? He went for a technicality, which is in there. The court said Trump absolutely gets to keep control of the National Guard. He was completely justified in calling him in. He totally, absolutely did properly notify the state through the proper authorities and channels. So win, win, and win. But in there, in the ruling, it said this doesn't mean that Trump can do anything he wants at any time without telling the state. But on this, he's on solid ground. So Newsom went into the technicality and said, oh, the court has ruled in my favor on this one little. Minuscule point.
SPEAKER 12 :
What a moron. And then the other thing I was thinking about, I think I texted this to you yesterday, and I've been giving this a lot of thought. I said, if we were half the men we used to be, we'd be willing to tackle the drama behind Juneteenth. And then I thought, why not? We are at least half the men we used to be. Why not tackle Juneteenth?
SPEAKER 11 :
Because I think I'm 110 percent of the man I used to be. You are 150. I'm 30. I don't even. So between us, we're two.
SPEAKER 12 :
But we almost one person.
SPEAKER 11 :
Here's what Trump said.
SPEAKER 12 :
Here's what he did last night. And many think he's right. Too many non-working holidays in America. It's costing our country billions of dollars to keep all of these businesses closed. The workers don't want it either. I'm not sure that's entirely true, but maybe. Soon we'll end up having a holiday for everyone's working day of the year. It must change if we're going to make America great again. I forgot that Juneteenth is actually a federal holiday? Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
just from a couple years ago.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now look, there's nothing wrong with celebrating and honoring the good news.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it's a remarkable holiday. It has huge significance. It's an amazing... I enjoy the observance of it, but we have enough federal holidays. You know what my genius idea was? In order to prevent the optics of just getting rid of Juneteenth, it's like throw people a bone, let's also get rid of Labor Day, which is meaningless.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, speaking of holidays and the 4th of July, you see these dummies are going to do another No Kings on the 4th of July. Well,
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, that'll work out well. Oh, no. Why do they want to beg? They got on TV. It was like a rock of crack. They paid attention to us. We're just a bunch of old white leftist dorks, and we got on TV.
SPEAKER 12 :
Pathetic. I don't make it a habit of watching Stephen Colbert's clips, but Tracy gave me a clip this morning of Colbert bagging on Trump's announcement that, look, he's going to, within two weeks, he's going to. Why are you rooting against the country? You know, remember after 9-11, Democrats didn't bag on Bush. Democrats lifted him up. President Bush was saluted for that inspirational bullhorn speech on the pile. And now the Stephen Colberts and all of them, the Democrats, are all lining up, rooting against him, and then therefore rooting for us to fail. And what are you going to do if, God forbid, Iran nukes Austin, Texas? Then you're going to blast Trump? Trump didn't start this war. Trump didn't massacre people. It's just so frustrating for me, Mark, to watch the way they just seem to want the entire country to go up in flames because of their Trump derangement.
SPEAKER 11 :
Trump hatred guides everything. It absolutely guides everything. So as this week winds down, do you find yourself... becoming slowly, grudgingly, I would say comfortable, nobody's comfortable, confident about the notion of an American crew and an American bomber dropping a big American bomb on that Nordo nuclear enrichment.
SPEAKER 12 :
Did you see who the latest person was to come out against that? General Mike Flynn. Mike Flynn is now saying, bad idea. We should rethink this.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's kind of the Tucker wing of things. So, okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we know how you feel about Tucker. Yes, you do. About 30 seconds, I'll be called a bow tie sniffer. Exactly. In fact, I saw a poll this morning that said, all right, I don't know if I can use it. I think I can use this word. The poll question one was a picture of Tucker Carlson. All right, let's dive in. Is he a hero or a douchebag? That was the question. And B was kind of winning. B had a slight... And I didn't even vote yet. Oh, I know. Well, you'd vote 20 times if you had the chance. But you know something? One of the posts I saw was a great answer. And you know what it was? It's not a binary choice. He's a smart and unique, funny guy, wonderful guy, but we all have quirks and traits and failings, and there are a lot of people who agree with him. I think Charlie Kirk is really against blowing up Fordo. I think Charlie, who I really admire deeply, if I'm reading, I haven't heard all of his shows, but he's saying right now, Trump is advocating for a negotiation. Blessed are the peacemakers. Well, Mark, shouldn't we all want that?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, but my favorite thing is for the looming notion of rubble at Fordo hanging over the heads of the Iranian mullahs that they somehow decide to come to a bargaining table within this two-week period. I am not hopeful of that.
SPEAKER 12 :
But here's what I'm also not hopeful of. We can end on this very negative, pessimistic note. And again, I hope I don't go up in flames on the A train later today. Are we hoping that the mullahs will change their minds about death to America and death to the Jews?
SPEAKER 11 :
They won't.
SPEAKER 12 :
Is that going to happen?
SPEAKER 11 :
No.
SPEAKER 12 :
So then guess what? Then you've got to take them out.
SPEAKER 11 :
Or neuter them so efficiently that they can have those views and stew in that hatred, but it just doesn't matter because they won't be able to do anything.
SPEAKER 12 :
Exactly. No, that's true. Good point. All right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, onward and upward. Happy Friday into the weekend. Are you going to catch any shows over the weekend?
SPEAKER 12 :
Do you know me? I do. What do you think? What's on the slate? Cabaret tonight. I love Eva.
SPEAKER 11 :
Money makes the world go round. Oh, man.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a really dark, cool production. It's one of my favorite shows. And then tomorrow night, were you a fan of Stranger Things? Oh, please. Of course. All right, well, there's a Broadway production of Stranger Things.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's great. Did they need to do that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it's not a musical, I don't think, but it's apparently really, really cool technically and a bunch of special effects.
SPEAKER 11 :
Report back on Monday.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'll give you a full Broadway mic. We'll check in Monday. Love you. Have a great weekend.
SPEAKER 11 :
Have a fantastic weekend. Your weekend begins with our Friday shows, and Mike's ready to roll at 10 o'clock as soon as we're done.
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In this riveting episode of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast, discover the jaw-dropping exploits of a Florida man ensnared in one of the state's most significant drug busts. What starts as a routine traffic stop escalates into a shocking revelation of trafficking and environmental crimes involving unauthorized dumping. As the story unfolds, we juxtapose this with an inside look at a New York magazine spread showcasing the peculiar tastes of the city's elite, prompting a discussion about aesthetics, excess, and cultural perceptions of wealth. Explore with us the modern dilemma of art and decoration, where contemporary works are scrutinized for their artistic value against the backdrop of eccentric wealthy lifestyles. Dana's humorous yet incisive commentary challenges the notion of elitism in art and home design, all while tapping into the nostalgia of childhood treasures like Garbage Pail Kids cards. It's a diverse tapestry of stories that promises insight, smiles, and a bit of intrigue as Dana helps you see beyond the obvious.
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All right. So a Florida man's brake lights led deputies to a major fentanyl, heroin and meth bust. It was a routine traffic stop and deputies discovered a ton. Well, lots of grams of fentanyl and various illegal substances. Hernando County Sheriff, they said that this was back on April 12th, but they're not having all the legal stuff now. They conducted a routine patrol when they spotted a green sedan, and they had all these equipment violations, malfunctioning brake lights, inoperable tag light, whatever. And the guy said, oh, yeah, my brake lights, when they pulled them over, they're not working properly. And he consented to a search of the vehicle, telling deputies, there should be no drugs in here. Okay, when you say that, there's going to be drugs in the car. Like, what do you mean there should be? Like, you had some, and you dropped them off, or, like, you're going to get it? Like, what? And they found... almost 34 grams of fentanyl, a gram of heroin, 12 grams of meth, 18 grams of marijuana, and then all kinds of drug-related paraphernalia. But the fentanyl, that's a ton of fentanyl. That's a lot of fentanyl. So they arrested him. He was accused of trafficking because he had the amounts, possession of controlled substances, all kinds of stuff. So he went to Dupoke. Yeah, when you're like, no, there shouldn't be any drugs... That's like coming up to me and, you know, like, yeah, Dana, there shouldn't be any guns. I mean, I just there shouldn't be. I mean, I don't know. Oops. I am. I'm fascinated by this story about the guy, this guy with the unpermitted dumps. So a Florida man operates unpermitted dumps and the neighbors told on him. He's facing two civil lawsuits, Maximo Sanchez and criminal. How do you. OK, how do you operate an unpermitted dump?
SPEAKER 06 :
It's when you dump things on the ground and it's not like a dumpster or a landfill.
SPEAKER 01 :
But does it act as a landfill and it just doesn't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Apparently there's rules that he violated as to where this junk should be put.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is in Tampa. So it's a facility, apparently. It's near the wetlands, which is apparently an environmentally sensitive area. And they said it could negatively impact water supply. And the guy promised to clean it up, and then he never did. And now he's facing civil lawsuits, fines, and criminal charges. And they said they have like a three-story high mound of construction and debris. And the pile, it started on a vacant lot. And the vacant lot is on protected wetlands. And there's all kinds of trucks dumping debris at the site nonstop. And the guy... Apparently, he didn't have the required permit, and they said that it could seep into the water system because of how the land is, is what they're saying. So, yeah, it's a big deal. I mean, when you see the photos of it, I mean, it's a giant dump site.
SPEAKER 06 :
And he just decided to do it with... I got to be honest, when I first saw the headline yesterday, I didn't think it was going to be about junk.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, what did you think it was going to... Oh, you're... You... I mean, it's Florida, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
I thought he was actually doing dumps.
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I don't read The New Yorker because I just, I don't care. I don't live in New York, but this was too funny to not. I have a piece up at Substack called Never Dress Like Your Furniture Unless You're Rich. So they have this like super swanky photo spread in the New Yorker of all of these like big leftists and dirty hipsters. I will make an excuse. I exclude Martin Scorsese from this. I like Martin Scorsese. Scorsese, sorry. I like Martin Scorsese. First off, they took a pictures of all these people in their living rooms and Martin Scorsese's house is amazing. And I'm not going to know it's a goth dream and he no criticism for him. Also, I appreciate the fact that after Alec Baldwin murdered a woman on set that Hollywood was calling to get rid of guns on all films and Scorsese went crazy on everybody saying hell no. So good for him. And he's not woke. Martin Scorsese is absolutely like the opposite of woke. He's a gem. He's a rare gem in Hollywood. So I exclude him. He's in this. But they were looking at like these New York artists and hipsters and all this stuff and taking photos of them in their living rooms. And can I ask a question? I'm not trying to sound like purposefully obtuse. Are shelves like not a thing anymore? Is it? The reason I ask, do we just like put our stuff on the floor now? That's Martin Scorsese's house. Okay. That's him and his daughter, Francesca. Beautiful home. Perfectly. I mean, you got the lead glass. You got the cool. I mean, it's perfect. He's excluded. The other people, though, no. The other people in the spread, they don't have his taste. I mean, that's a goth dream. Come on. That's a goth dream. So they did this big spread. And the first thing I saw was nubby worn carpets, books on the floor, because apparently it's really cool to pretend to be poor for shelves. And I don't even know who some of these people are. It was very important to make sure that no one in the spread have shoes or socks on. And I know that they were trying to evoke this relaxing at home feel. But it was gross. Some feet don't need to be seen. Put them away. It's gross. I just don't like them. They're nasty. They are unfortunate things that we have to deal with as humans. But it feels forced and awkward. It just feels like... robotic and cringe like there's this one living room it's the first photo that I have but it was this woman she's barefoot and she's standing on this nubby green super saturated 70s avocado theme her husband's organized like he's arranging flowers and the whole room like the carpet looks very thread warm the chairs look dilapidated That's so that's in Greenwich Village. I can. That looks like it smells like steel cigarettes, feet and gym. Right. Like, what is the point of like what? Look at the nubby carpet. You're supposed to have like a feel envy for this. Like they they're like showcasing like this is the cream, the creme de la creme. One of my favorite. I mean, it's like literally probably literally from the 70s when I was a kid. This is going to make sense in a moment. My grandmother had a garden shed. They did lots of stuff in the garden shed, moonshine in the bathtub, all kinds of stuff. But my grandmother and I once found a nest of like buttons and doll heads and coins and like a sock. And it was in a garden shed that this little wood rat like probably spent its whole little life running around collecting stuff and that she she trashed it in like minutes. And I thought about this when I saw Gloria Steinem's dresser top. She's in front of this yellow ochre wall. And I was looking on top of her dresser, and my first thought was, who dusts all this garbage? She's got a pack rat collection on top of her dresser. It's a rat's nest. It's weird. And she looks skeletal. She's the feminist sellout. Then you have Al Sharpton. And I don't know if you've ever I've seen pictures of Al Sharpton's house before. He's got like this like two two story penthouse and he's in front of a portrait of himself predictably. And then he's got this spotless bougie as all get out pet enclosure. Is that his actual bed? The pet enclosure has like an acrylic water bowl in it. People who have no idea what animals do apparently decided to make that. Maybe that's his little enclosure in his house. I don't know. The big thing, though, the piece de la resistance was the George Soros nepo baby and Anthony Weiner's ex-wife, a.k.a. Hillary Clinton's right-hand woman. This is what kicked it all off. They are literally dressed like their chairs. Again, with the 70s avocado green. Because you can't be truly rich unless you can dress like your furniture. So here he's doing his best to convince you that he's a heterosexual male and that he likes this woman. And I just need to stop full stop right here. They're glowering at the camera as rich people do. They're not only in sync with each other, they're in sync with their literal actual furniture because they're better and richer than you. He's a nepo baby. I mean, can you afford to dress like your furniture? I don't think so. His little platform sneaks. They just like they just give me total Clydesdale hoof vibes. And he's wearing man pre's. You guys know what man pre's are, right? Capris for men. And he's got just enough of that pale sausage cankle peeking through. Throw that photo back up, Juan. The one where you got the Nepo babies in green. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that. Look at the pale sausage cankle peeking through. And he's got his Clydesdale platform sneaks on, right? Her trousers are like meticulously unhemmed. Like they're rebelling against tailoring and they has a laissez faire attitude to like puzzles and feces and grime walking the streets of Manhattan because let's be real. They don't walk the streets of Manhattan. They ride on the backs of fat cherubs. They flip them about to and fro and the cherubs wings are made of dollars. That's what this is. So I don't know. The other one that I really, really love, by the way, look how did they look at normal people? That's like that's like Scott Evil, Dr. Evil's son, Scott, and his girlfriend and their nepo baby house that this dude would never be able to afford if his daddy wasn't George Soros. But the other one that I thought was hysterical is the woman who's partially responsible for the scourge of modern art. I hate modern art. I hate modernity. I hate all of it. Her name is Agnes Gund. And she is sitting in her... Apparently, she only has one chair. In her giant east side expanse. And... I was like her and her dog take turns sitting in the one chair in their penthouse. And she's got this like all this modern art everywhere. Like one of the pieces that she has is, I kid you not, a literal black canvas with one red stripe painted across. You know, that's worth more than like your city that you live in. That one painting is probably worth $11,000,000,000,000,000,000. You know that. And she's just like sitting there in this chair, this like restoration hardware looking chair. And... I mean, I don't even understand. I just hate the art. In addition to the Scorsese thing, there was one thing in here where it was just a framed thing of garbage pail kids, garbage pail kid cards. Now that I literally would punch out a kid on a playground to get a garbage pail kid card. Kane, that was like Jolly Rangers and garbage pail kids were the currency for Gen X back in the day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, no doubt.
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, like in prison, they got like cigarettes. Okay, well, in the playgrounds, it was Jolly Ranchers and Garbage Pail Kid cards.
SPEAKER 06 :
Even like Pokemon cards today, you couldn't even really, I mean, it's kind of that comparison. Yeah. You didn't have really any games or, you know, got to catch them all sort of thing.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, but parents, oh my gosh, parents like Pokemon cards. Back then, they thought Garbage Pail Kid cards, oh my gosh. Yeah. Like, that's of the devil. I don't even know who this lady is, but she is... I mean, I don't really like anything else in her apartment, but the professionally framed Garbage Pail Kid collection that she's got on her wall. It is chef's kiss. It's amazing. I do like that. That's the only thing that's, like, worth it. Oh, my gosh. So... They did. And I get it that they were just like showcasing different people. You can't tell me that there aren't any conservatives. They had AOC there. She was I was looking at what she was crocheting and it looks like garbage. Like I can just tell that her gauge is all jacked up and she's that look. What is she trying to do? Like it's all misshapen. I mean, even in its early stage, there's still some kind of form. Girl, you cannot crochet probably as well as you cannot make a drink. And how did her dog, who is not supposed to jump, because French bulldogs, jumping is bad for their back, get up on the sofa. Did she lift him up there? I don't know, but whatever. I just think it's just hysterical that they decided, like, let's look at these insufferably, except for Scorsese, these insufferably liberal people in their houses. And they're all trash. Like, they have no taste. There was no taste in any of it, except for Scorsese's. I mean, it looked dirty, Cain. For those who don't understand... Will you please explain the whole avocado green thing that was like in the 70s and then people who didn't remodel their houses, it went all the way up into the 90s?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't even understand it.
SPEAKER 01 :
Like appliances were that color.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, everything was that color. Toasters, your hand mixers. I mean, things, everything was that color. I'm not kidding. Everything. Tabletops, like actual tables. Yeah. The floor. Oh, my gosh. Doorknobs.
SPEAKER 01 :
Everything was that color. Do you remember the stoves and the refrigerators?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
Were all that green, weird green color. Avocado green. They're trying to make a comeback. And it looks dirty and shabby. I don't like it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, it looks like how we grew up.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
And we grew up kind of poor.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, we grew up poor.
SPEAKER 06 :
So it's kind of like derelict chic is what they're trying to pull off right now.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's like grimy, stinky chic. I don't even know how. Like stinky chic. I don't even know how to.
SPEAKER 06 :
But there is no positive psychological response to that color.
SPEAKER 01 :
Why did they do the spread? Was it to make us not like these people? Because I dislike them more now.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nobody likes that color, though. Has anyone ever told you they prefer avocado green for anything?
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And can we talk about the people that have the giant modern art pieces? I hate modern art so bad because it's just so unimaginative, honestly. Oh, this is my interpretation. Oh, shut up. You can't paint. And so you just did this. Shut up. But they have like nothing in there. Look at my big, completely obscene, totally doesn't work with the architecture or anything else. Modern art piece. I'm so enlightened and so blah. I... Gag me. I just, no. No thanks. No thanks. That's why Scorsese's is so perfect because it's all like, it just works. Every bit of it works. But this is the stuff that they run. They run this stuff thinking that this is going to appeal to you. This will appeal to you, right? No. Oh, Lorraine notes, in the 80s, do you remember? Okay, so you had, I know we're going long, but hold up. Avocado green in the 70s. In the 80s, it was cornflower blue. I had a rich friend who had cornflower blue carpet. You guys remember that? Who puts blue carpet in their house? It doesn't go with anything. But cornflower, that was the big thing. And mauve. Is that right? Mauve? It's like a... The purpley pink color. I don't know. I don't do. I'm like, that's pink. I don't know. It's like soft pink. I don't know. But everything like a she knows, like the toilets, the showers, the sinks. It's all that color. The appliances in your kitchen. I want all my I want my toilet to match my stove. I don't know. But that's what these they think that this appeals to you because it's rich people in New York and that everybody in flyover or who is not in New York wants to be like this. Recently, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis legalized gold and silver as acceptable currency, meaning that Floridians cannot make transactions in gold and silver, thus creating an alternative to the U.S. dollar. So I guess all the inflation and national debt that's spiraling out of control, not to mention the recent credit downgrade for the United States, has finally opened up all lawmakers' eyes. The writing has been on the wall for a long time, and it's time to protect yourself against the declining value of the dollar. And that's exactly why I partnered with Goldco, the top-rated precious metals company. to help you take a step towards protecting your financial future. And right now you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit that breaks it all down for you. And if you qualify, you could receive unlimited bonus silver, real silver matched to your account with no taxes or penalties. It's a smart move that could help you feel more secure in what lies ahead. Visit danalikesgold.com to get started. That's danalikesgold.com and move forward with confidence.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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so apparently police in new hampshire are investigating the theft of a trail camera that reviewed they they saw footage that identified a bear that stole it a bear apparently stole the camera clawed it off a tree and another bear watched from a short distance away they got the report of a camera theft police did uh and they said that it was very suspicious they were kind of joking about it but uh i've never seen where a bear could just steal a trail cam but okay Fancy snake reptile wranglers find a weird diamondback rattlesnake in Arizona. They shared a photo of the snake that they came across in the backyard of a Scottsdale home. These trappers called Rattlesnake Solutions, they posted photos to social media showing what appears to be a western diamondback rattlesnake that has a leopard-like color pattern. They said that the only normal thing about it was that the snake's bright white tail base had black spots. And that was it. So normally they have diamond-shaped patterns on their bodies, but this one said that it was a very weird pattern. Apparently, why are people even paying for a subscription for Netflix anyway? Netflix is going to start showing generative AI ads midway through their streams beginning next year. And they said that they're testing the amount and types of ads that they're willing to to try to see what subscribers are willing to endure. And they said that it's for lower prices, but I mean, they're not lowering the prices, they're keeping them the same. So they said that they've created interactive mid-roll ads and pause ads that incorporate it, and that they can start seeing these ads in 2026. So I guess it's going to be in the middle of the show, I guess is what it is. The President of Advertising at Netflix said they're going to be mid-roll ads.
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I hated that when Amazon did that. Remember when Prime started doing that?
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They launched their ad subscription tier in November of 22, and they have 300 total million subscribers. They got 94 million subscribers to the ad tier. So they said, I don't know what they think that is. What's the point of paying for it if you're still going to have... That's just so stupid and shady. I think it's so lame. I don't know. It depends on how many ads. Because if I have to start watching a ton of ads, I guarantee you I'm not going to... If people are paying for it... I don't think you should you should be throwing ads in their face. It's not like radio where the people, the sponsors that you hear pay for everything. That's what that is. So Washington Examiner says that clean energy is dead in the house. They were trying to incentivize and use tax incentives essentially to help grow nuclear power. But that's one of the things that apparently is on the cutting room floor. for the sweeping fiscal overhaul. I mean, I don't know. They're still going to consider funding Planned Parenthood with this? I don't know. Apparently, let's see. I don't know. It's a deer that was in a drain. Okay. A new pope got his own trading card and it already outsold one of the most popular basketball players of all time. That actually is interesting. I didn't know that you could do a pope card, but apparently you can. It's Topps. They put together a trading card for Pope Leo ahead of his inauguration later this month. They said it's already breaking records and it's now the best-selling non-sports tops card. It outsold Lionel Messi, LeBron James, and John Cena. And, of course, it's already being scalped. People are paying $195 and up just for the alternative art. That's crazy. Very, yeah, $200 for a Pope card. And it even beat out Lionel Messi. And LeBron James, that's insane. That's that's I've never heard of anything like that before. But OK, maybe, you know, can we need to get into the baseball card business? Clearly, we are doing life wrong. The New York Times headline. I could just punch someone in the face over. I really could. I know that you guys saw this. The audacity of this piece from The New York Times, quote, We were badly misled about the event that changed our lives. They said we were badly misled. Of course, it's about coronavirus, the woohoo. Here is an actual sentence from this New York Times piece. Quote, yet in 2020, when people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the COVID-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Okay. Who treated us like kooks and cranks? The media. Yeah. The left and the media. Same thing. The media. The media. And obviously it has been unraveled. And now the media wants to claim that they were misled. We were badly misled about the origin. When you were leading the witch hunt against all of the people who were raising concerns about this, the New York Times now needs to separate itself from this. I mean, they literally had headlines where they were besmirching good people who are asking questions about the origin. They were asking questions about coverups. They were asking questions about all of this. And now they want to play victim. Anybody who actually questioned the narrative that we were given in the press and asked about any kind of zoonotic origins, they were treated like witch doctors. They were treated like... Just they were persona non grata. They can't be allowed into the conversation. And not not even on the origin. I mean, they went after people like Dr. Robert Malone that we had on Dr. Tess Laurie. We had our videos pulled from YouTube. Censored. Because we asked questions on this program. I mean, it was censorship, and we know it was censorship at the highest levels. And now they want to act as though that, oh, well, we were misled. See, we got duped too. I feel like they're trying to act like, no, we're victims like you. We were so misled. What's next? We were so misled. Women can't actually be men. And men can't have babies. We were so misled. Like, what's next?
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Well, you heard what they did with the vaccine. The media was even putting out, well, no one was forced to take the vax. Nobody was forced.
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No, they weren't. Here's this headline. Senator Tom Cotton repeats fringe theory of coronavirus origins. If you looked up, like, fringe and coronavirus in the New York Times in their search option, I mean, there's so many headlines that pop up over that. I mean, and this was a legitimate and taking something now that we we accept as truth because the evidence supports it. Everybody had evidentiary based suspicions in the beginning that were immediately discounted in favor of the political narrative that they wanted to spend, that they wanted to spend. And for them to try to retcon this and act like, oh, we were you weren't misled. You misled people. You were the your reporters. And this goes back to what we opened the program with. You are the media. Your job is to your entire the purpose of your existence is to question government, is to question elected officials, is to question bureaucrats. That's your entire existence. If there was misleading, you misled. You weren't misled. You just swallowed it and took it at face value because it was easier for your political bottom line to do so. They didn't want to fall out of favor with the powers that be by asking questions. That's what the left does. And the left is, you know, the media is part of it. They don't ask questions anymore. Merely asking a question is a sign of betrayal. Someone is not accepting the narrative. They're not swallowing their narrative pill. They're asking a question. That means they're not on the same page. Thus, they are the enemy. That's how it's viewed. So questions aren't even allowed. There's no intellectual curiosity. Whatever they said went and you ought to accept it now or Now, because it doesn't cost any political capital for them, they can act like, oh yeah, we're one of you. We're questioning this. We were all misled. No, you misled people. We were the people that you tried to mislead. And when you couldn't mislead us, you wanted to impugn our characters and thereby taint any kind of association in the minds of anyone else that was still maybe making up their minds. I mean, they they went after the best doctors in the world, the best medical experts, the best professionals. They persecuted the media story after story about these people. Now they want to act like they're one of us. No, you don't get to do that. Badly misled. Spare me with all of this. There's there's that's what I think that that exchange was a very good exchange. And I like Levitt's response. You're the reporter. That's your job. You investigate this stuff. The bigger question is, why isn't the press interested in investigating things from the government? Remember the olden days of the old gumshoe reporter? That's gone. Nobody wants to ask those questions anymore. Everybody just wants a stupid, insipid hot take. They want a part of that attention economy. But they don't care about investigating anything. You know why? Partly because there's no rewards in it. There's no rewards in it. The only reason the New York Times is doing this now is to save their ass. That's it. They're trying to act like, oh, no, no, we're still reputationally clean. You can still trust us. You can still subscribe. But we know that they were part of the problem.
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Well, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs is. I mean, your point that you made before, Katie, speaks to this, which is that he's not explaining what the issues are for America. What are the issues for America? Why shouldn't, why do we, why is it a foundational issue for Trump that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon? Why is this something that the U.S. should be involved in? Why are we allied with Israel?
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He says because they chant death to America.
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They chant death to America. I went to Iran in 2014. I was sitting at a rally. These young guys were chanting death to America. I had a minder. I said, what are they saying? They're saying death to America. They finished the chant, and two young men came over and said, are you American? I said, yes. We want to welcome you to our country. We love American culture and love American movies. They wanted to talk about all these things. Iran is the most Western nation in the whole Middle East. We have much more in common with them than a lot of countries that we do have alliances with.
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This is one of the stupidest things that I've ever heard in my ever-loving life. And I cannot get over the... Who is the smoky bear sitting there next to the dude with the big giant hat on? I don't know who that is. This is crazy. So that's Richard Stengel. He's like, yeah, they were totally chanting death to America, to me and my country. And then they were like, yeah, but we like your... We like your culture and your movies and stuff like that. Seriously?
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They were respectful when they chanted death to America.
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It's respectful, you know, when they are blowing up American troops. It's respectful. It's respectful when they're attacking our tankers and then the naval vessels that we have in the region that are providing security to those tankers. It's a respectful kind of like death to America. I know that when I'm telling people to go do something unflattering to themselves and like death to you and your family and your country, you know, like all that stuff. I'm being totally respectful. That is going to be my new line to avoid derision. No, no, no. I mean, yes, I did totally tell you to go do something unflattering to yourself, but in the most respectful way. Right. Right. So this is, was it CNN or MSNBC? MSNBC. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I can't tell them apart anymore. I can't tell them apart. I can't tell.
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Neither can the average person.
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Well, I can't. I don't know who's on anymore because I don't watch them. I mean, it's like there are a bunch of people that they're old communists. All of them. They're they're old commies. And I just don't nothing that they say, you know, used to. Can I just say that used to people on the left would be able to say something and you were like, OK, well, I don't entirely agree. But I see your I see where you're coming from, even though you're wrong. You know, I see where you're coming from. I can't do that anymore. That doesn't exist anymore. There isn't any. common like sense or anything that i mean just to say stuff like this oh yes they really they really liked us over there they were they were shouting death to america uh but they still they still liked us that doesn't even make any sense i would be offended i would be like yeah well i tell them to death to you death to your mom You know, that's kind of how I look at the whole thing. So I don't know. I these the left is always they love they love tyrants and they love tyranny. That's why they always, you know, cozy up to like the Castro's, you know. I mean, it's probably why that's Justin Trudeau's dad. Kind of joking, but not really. Welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this first hour. And oh, my gosh, I have a million subscribers. Things to hit here, including Alex Padilla guy just saw that he is 20 minutes ago. He posted something where he's whining about getting arrested. He's really trying to squeeze every last drop of juice out of that soured fruit. He really is. He's he's the guy who stormed the press briefing and made a spectacle, knowing full well how security was going to react to a guy storming. the stage where the DHS secretary was speaking. She had an allergic reaction after that, and I'm wondering if it's because she was allergic to his low-T beta male nonsense. I'm just wondering, asking for some friends. So a lot to touch on because we've got some some of the updates. I mean, really, there's no serious action or anything like that yet as it relates to Iran. And of course, we have the big, beautiful bill that they're fighting over in the Senate and this idiotic proposal by some lawmakers to sell off our publicly owned land. And Mike Lee, of all people, is behind it. This is why I'm telling you, there's no Republican on which you will ever find agreement on anything. And I cannot, I just can't. So I'm not a Republican because there are two left for me. I mean, you have someone who's like Mike Lee, who's like, yes, let's go ahead and sell off, you know, to BlackRock in China, you know, these public lands. So we're going to talk about this because all of my conservation friends, and you know, there's a difference between... conservation and environmentalism. Environmentalism is basically a bunch of inbred cultists who go out into the woods and leave trash and scream and have zero positive impact on the environment. Whereas conservationists, those are the ones that have positive impact on the environment. Anyway, so this, I think that this is, we're going to talk more about this here coming up, but I think it's a big mistake. And I was just shocked to see someone like Mike Lee promote it. In addition to that, can we talk about the Dodgers thing? Here's another instance of a media narrative on a story that didn't exist. Listen to Audio Soundbite 3. I just listened to it, and then we're going to tell you what really happened.
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Like earlier this morning, dozens of ICE agents gathering with their faces hidden, wearing tactical gear. This was shot around 9 o'clock this morning before the agents headed out to various locations in the area. We're hearing from elected officials that LA Council District 1 workers alerted LAPD of the staging at Dodgers Gate LAPD then notified the Dodgers and the organization apparently told the ICE agents to leave the property. But there are still a handful of masked federal agents here. Council member Eunice Hernandez showed up about 45 minutes ago and is upset that the agents have not left.
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We've been in communication with the mayor's office, with the Dodgers, with Dodger security about seeing if they can get them moved off their private property. Public property is different, but private property, Businesses and corporations have the power to say, not on my property. And so we're waiting to see that movement happen here.
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You haven't heard if the Dodgers have told them to get out?
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My understanding is that yes, there have been communications to get them to leave.
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So here's the truth of it. They were nowhere near, they were not at the stadium. They were several blocks away from the stadium where they had a staging area. DHS actually also refuted this. They said, well, we were not, like ICE also tweeted, we were never there. They had patrol vehicles that went by the stadium on their way to the area where the Dodgers or where the ice agents were actually staging. So they went by the stadium and they never were at the stadium. But apparently because they went by the stadium, the Dodgers had their periods collectively. And then they decided to accuse ice agents of raiding the stadium. This narrative went all yesterday, right? Yeah. Yeah. ICE agents were literally never at Dodgers Stadium. The Dodgers made up this story entirely, and they farmed it out to the press, and they turned it into this huge thing all yesterday after we were off air, all last night. It had nothing to do with the Dodgers. They didn't even have vehicles in the lot. They drove by them. They said, we were not doing any kind of enforcement or operation there. And they said that the team, DHS said that the team was grandstanding. They said there was nothing that was happening here just because you have an ICE vehicle near or even if they like parked there briefly on their way to there because their staging area, that's where they were all at. And that's a couple blocks away. And there's maps. I mean, if you go on X there, I mean, I don't know how safe this is for them to do this, but they have it marked on the map. OK, here's the staging area. Here's where all the vehicles were coming. And here's the through path through which all the vehicles were expected to to drive on their way to the staging area. There was a certain way to approach it. I mean, that's just like normal standard operating procedure. So, I mean, that's crazy. I mean, I said, no, we're not raiding the stadium. Yeah. Who is in charge? Kane asks a good question. Who's in charge of their comms?
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Yeah, I'd like the Jussie Smollett. Juicy Smollett.
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Juicy Smollett. Yeah, who is in charge of their comms? That is so embarrassing that the Dodgers would make up the story. And this is the second time. Are they winning more riots in Los Angeles? Because that's how the riots kicked off last time, if you remember. When the riots kicked off last time, that was because near – it was in the same – it was even near the Home Depot, actually. When I saw and read exactly where the staging area, their little base camp was, it was nowhere near the Home Depot. But because someone saw the presence of an ICE vehicle near the Home Depot, they went to the press and told them that they were raiding Home Depots. And then it kicked off from there. Then you had the professional activists swoop in. That is quite literally, without exaggeration, base bones, how the riots got started in L.A. Because someone accused ICE of raiding a Home Depot because they had a base camp that was in the neighborhood of where a Home Depot was. And why did they have that base camp that was in the neighborhood where the Home Depot was? Because they had been undertaking a multi-year long investigation of a cartel money laundering operation that was entirely invalidated because of the riots. The riots ruined everything. It was a multi-year investigation that predated Trump and Tom Homan. That was ongoing and they were investigating a money laundering operation from the Mexican cartels and it was disrupted and it ceases to be now because the riots and then they stormed everything and they started writing outside the base camp and all that other stuff. No one was raiding a Home Depot. It is malicious designed to incite violence and stop them from doing whatever they think they're doing. I didn't even know. They didn't even actually say that this area where ICE was was even related to enforcement of Trump's of Trump's order. They didn't even say that. Who knows what it could have been? It could have been another investigation. Who knows? I mean, it's not like there are too few of those investigations to have. This is crazy. But this is how I think the Dodgers were trying to start another riot. There's no other there's no other sense that I can make it. Doesn't it seem like it came that they thought they were going to get like Home Depot part two?
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I mean, Democrat leaders in California already are doing enough to create riot type atmosphere. Why do we need the Dodgers doing it, too? I don't get what what this is about.
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Yeah, I don't either. And I think that for the Dodgers to have done something like this is so unbelievably embarrassing. This is why the Cardinals are God's team, because the Cardinals wouldn't make up stories like this. Oh, they wouldn't make up stories like this at all. That's just that's so that's so, so bad. It's just so bad. So we have some coming up. This is what we got. We got a lot of stuff coming up. Do you want to know what Gavin Newsom was doing? Speaking of the riots when the riots were kicking off? I mean, we knew his wife was shopping in Beverly Hills. She was carrying around her $3,000 Goyard bag. But do you want to know what Gav was doing? Okay, we're going to talk about that. Also, this stupid proposal for public land. And overnight, Sophie Cunningham is now the second biggest star in the WNBA. And all of the race lesbians are going to be super mad now. We're going to get into that and more. summer is all about making great memories backyard barbecues road trips lake days even just relaxing in a hammock with a good book spending time with friends and family catching sunset views but if you're living with pain those future memories can be stolen from you it's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain so here's a thought try relief factor relief factor is a 100 drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain it's a doctor developed formula made with natural ingredients And unlike pain meds that just mask it, Relief Factor works to reduce, even eliminate, your pain for good. So whether you're spending time at the lake or chasing your kids or grandkids or just enjoying a summer stroll, Relief Factor can help you feel better, move better, and do more of what you love. Reclaim your summer. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I have actually, I don't do amusement parks because I am a germaphobe and I've never gotten over it to that extent. But, oh my gosh, did you guys hear about, I would do it, but Orlando Sentinel loves to put all their stupid, horribly written garbage content behind a stupid firewall. But what you do is put archive.is in it and you can bypass their firewall and get all their content for free. Ha ha! But they have a it's called Universal Horror Unleashed. It is a new theme park. Vegas Larry was the one who told me about this. And it's a horror theme park. Now, this is a theme park. I could actually get behind Kane. So they've got like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Universal Monsters, The Exorcist, Haunted Houses, all kinds of stuff. I am so here for this. So I could I could do this. Tickets are on sale. And I just say that it's not recommended for anyone under the age of 13 or leftist because they'll die of fright of absolute fright. But this is in Vegas. It's 10 minutes from the strip in downtown Vegas. And the it's located at Area 15. So it's restricted to minors like during particular times of the week. So all I know is it looks cool. I'm just thinking like SHOT Show in the future game. Dude, I'm down for this. This is the type of theme park thing that I can get behind. Paramount delays a $35 million settlement with Trump because they're fearing a bribery backlash. I just really don't care. Go cry and go cry on your pillows. They are. Well, they're supposed to. This is something that they're supposed to have already settled, but it's not now. And it's a potential settlement. But they it's Paramount CBS. They've delayed it after the company management continued to fear a potential legal backlash. So they're still working that out. Harvard Law Review has axed 85 percent of submissions using race. It's race conscious rubric. I still don't care. Burn it all down. I don't care. I have I don't I don't care. I just don't care. I don't care what you're changing. You are irredeemable to me. These institutions are absolutely irredeemable to me. The only way that they can be made better is to take them apart stone by stone and rebuild something in its place or nothing at all. Also, let's see. Oh, who is this red jumpsuit? A stupid band that has a stupider name has banned Trump supporters from their lame shows as their off-key singer shares a barely coherent blunt message that Trump voters are not allowed at their performances. That's OK. I didn't want to go get audible aids anyway. Thanks. Back after this. GoldCo precious metals. GoldCo is the company I trust. Lots of people trust GoldCo to help protect what they have. These are real actual assets with GoldCo. And I mean, this is gold and silver. And they have they prioritize education, which I love, too, because They understand hard assets offer real security. They want to walk you through how to add this to your financial strategy as well. So they have a free 2025 gold and silver kit. It breaks down everything that you need to know about precious metals. And you can unlock exclusive bonus silver as well. If you qualify, they'll match your investment with unlimited bonus silver, real physical silver with no taxes or penalties. So it's confidence in uncertain times. And with inflation, market shifts, everything else, having a portion of of your wealth in gold and silver. It just helps to make you feel more secure about everything. And they make it so easy as well. I mean, you can never go wrong with gold and silver. So visit danalikesgold.com and join the thousands of people who've called Goldco the number one rated gold company. And you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit and qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. That's danalikesgold.com.
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Part of what we're going to have to do is to start experimenting with new forms of journalism and how do we use social media in ways that reaffirm facts, separate facts from opinion. We want diversity of opinion. You don't want diversity of fact. By the way, it will require some government, I believe, some government regulatory constraints around some of these business models in a way that's consistent with the First Amendment, but that also says, look, there is a difference between these platforms letting all voices be heard versus a business model that elevates the most hateful voices, or the most polarizing voices, or the most... Oh my gosh.
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So Obama is advocating for mass social media censorship. I'm not surprised. Anyone who's ever... You know, no, but none of us are surprised. None of us are. This to me is, you know, this is, you know, same old, same old with him.
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It's been the Democrat position forever.
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Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Forever. And he will require I'm just going to the sentence. It's going to require some government regulatory constraints. And what would what was he saying? You know, you can have your own opinion, but not your own fact. That's like, you know, you have my own facts. Yeah. Well, I mean, who gets. OK, so here's the question. Who gets to determine what is a fact and what isn't? And that's the thing. When they created that department of or the Ministry of Truth and they had that bratty theater kid that was going to run it. That was what they were establishing that to do. This was a forum that they had just the other day. at which obama spoke and that's where we get these remarks from but the left let me just go back and i know i've talked about this before but i i want you i want you to understand the um the process that they have here so back in me uh the year i think it was uh 0708 maybe like 060708 A lot of us were online. And, you know, I just I did a, you know, a regional radio program at the time. And I was writing online and doing some activism. We were very upset with the big spending Republicans. I was one of those people that I was very upset with, you know, too big to fail and all this other stuff. And there was this big fight. And I feel like this was the moment that kind of showed the strength that conservatives had on social media. And it was one of these lawmakers. It was a Texas representative. And they were Nancy Pelosi was speaker of the House. And it was during right before summer recess. And they were whether or not they went on summer recess was dependent upon whether how quickly they pass this bill to the Senate. And it was a bill that had to do was an energy bill. And it had to do everything like there was more policy on crude and energy prices and all this other stuff. That's that's not as relevant as we were telling people. You need to pass this bill before you leave. Democrats are trying to hold it over your head that your recess is going to be cut short because you're going to be here longer. Don't go. Stay there and vote. And so then don't go started trending. This is when everything on X then Twitter was organic. Still, it started trending on Twitter at the time and it was hashtag don't go. They turned it into a hashtag then. Then it became known as the don't go movement, which you can look up to this day. And there was a lawmaker, before you had Vine and before you had like really ubiquitous live streaming, there was a platform called QIK, Q-I-K. And everybody back then was like using it if they wanted to live stream stuff. It wasn't the best quality, but there wasn't a lot that was available yet. And this lawmaker was live streaming them getting like frog marched out of the Capitol building because Nancy Pelosi did not want the vote to pass. She did not want to bring it to the floor. They began the lawmakers began protesting on the floor of the House. They were responding to everybody on social media saying, don't go. And they turned off the C-SPAN cameras, turned off the lights, and she called Capitol Police. And they were threatening to arrest lawmakers. And they were marching them out of the Capitol building. And so that predates the Tea Party movement. And we were like, ooh, there's something bigger here. And so that's how we kind of came to have the Tea Party movement, especially after the bailout. And so that was also the moment that the left realized how powerful the right was online. So after that, the left created this thing called Netroots. And it was this far-left consortium of big-time progressive funders and super far-left lawmakers and all of these activists like Daily Kos and all of this. They were all involved in it. And the purpose of Netroots was to get everyone together and try to counter the conservative influence online. They began reaching out to Jack Dorsey, who owned X at the time. And I have some mutual friends. I had some mutual friends. Well, I did until the divide. They used to be more like rational, left-leaning people. And then they got really nuts after a while. So we haven't spoken in years. But they had been making a lot of overtures to them for quite a time. And they started reaching out to all the tech stuff. And then that's when you noticed things kind of started that they just started changing after that, because the left realized that they could not play on social media and match the right's energy. The right was dominating social media exactly the same way that they were dominating talk radio. So because they couldn't compete, they decided to. aggravate and appeal to the political ideology of these tech owners and then have them enforce this this restrictive algorithms on everyone to suppress conservative speech and the ability to organize assembly through those platforms because the left couldn't complete that they couldn't compete. That's how all of this started. And it started as Obama was being ushered into office. And he championed this. He absolutely championed this. Case in point, when he was running for office, I wrote about this at the time. All of my articles are available on Wayback Machine. Back when he was first running for office, he was a senator. He barely even served like part of his term as a senator from Illinois. And he only got that job because he went after, who was it, Ryan. So Jerry Ryan, who played Seven of Nine on Star Trek, she was having a very acrimonious divorce. And her husband, she was really nasty with him. Barack Obama, they found those, they got their divorce records and forced them to become public. And that's how he ended up getting that seat. He ended up defeating the Republican because the Republican's bitch wife decided that she was going to try to make a thing of their divorce. And that's how Barack Obama was catapulted into that seat. So anyway, back when all of this was happening in St. Louis, they had what they called the truth squad. So here's what's fascinating. Bob McCullough, whose name you might remember because he was the progressive prosecutor in the Mike Brown case. He was the prosecutor who was going after Darren Wilson. And ultimately, they couldn't get a conviction. And he even had to throw his hands up and was like, there's no evidence here to convict him of what he's being accused of. Bob McCullough led the truth squad in St. Louis. He worked with another attorney named Jennifer Joyce, and they worked with a super far left sheriff. And they decided, they announced that they were going to go after anyone in the St. Louis area that said anything unfactual about Barack Obama at the time. I wrote about it. They even had an ad that they ran on local news. Do you remember this, Cain? That's why when the whole Mike Brown, Darren Wilson thing was happening, I'm like, if Bob McCullough can't get a conviction, that's how you know there's no evidence. Because that guy was a Marxist jack wagon. Absolutely. He headed up the truth squad for the Obama campaign and the DNC in St. Louis. And of course, people who like free speech were apoplectic over this. We all had our arms in the air. Like, what are you talking about? Like, who gets to define what is false and what isn't? You know, everything that was being said about Barack Obama was true. So the pushback against them was so intense that they pulled their ad. And I got this on word from a producer at KMOV Channel 4, which was a CBS affiliate in St. Louis. They actually pulled that ad. And that was something like that a progressive activist group was funding. And it was an ad that Bob McCullough and Jennifer Joyce and then that sheriff were starring in. And they actually pulled that ad because the pushback was so intense. So and the DNC, they were working with the DNC for this. So this is something that Barack Obama, long story short, has always promoted at very, very, very dangerous levels. And to hear him say, oh, yes, well, it would require some government regulatory constraints. Why would you have to have the government come in just because the medium changes? This is it's predicated upon a belief that the First Amendment is anachronistic, meaning that, well, it can't apply to future times because the founders were talking about quill and paper. That's the argument that I hear for firearms. Oh, well, they couldn't envision technological advances, even though we literally already had a quote unquote assault weapon. We already had full auto. We already had all of the stuff. The rate of fire was increasing. We had boring. We had so many kinds of of technological and progressions. They already knew all of this. But the point is, is it's the exercise of and not the medium that determines the right. And it's this belief that the First Amendment is anachronistic or that the Second Amendment is anachronistic and that times change. And because times change, then your rights must also. Barack Obama subscribes to that belief. Democrats subscribe to that belief. And here he is still subscribing to it on stage at this forum. That somehow, because it's a different medium, that that means the government has to come in and regulate. The same laws that govern unprotected speech are still in play. The same laws, libel and slander and defamation, all of those things are still in play. The medium doesn't change it. The rate at which information spreads, that is completely, that has nothing to do with free speech. They're trying to make this argument that the platform and the manner of exercising your rights determines whether or not you can exercise your rights. They still subscribe to this. And so that's why Barack Obama, after he left office, and then you get Joe Biden that comes in. It's Barack Obama 3.0. All the same people. I mean, he literally just brought in everybody from Obama's team. So it's not surprising to see that they had this ministry of truth that pops up and they want to still regulate what you're saying. They tried to do it with the laptop. And that was I don't know how that gets past FEC scrutiny. That was that's an in-kind contribution. If you are suppressing fact based reporting with tons of evidence that has a negative impact on someone's political campaign, that is an in-kind donation to that campaign. You are aiding that campaign for which you must you must file a disclosure. And as Cain notes, that's why CBS had to settle on the Kamala Harris edit. They edited her interview to make her sound less insane. That was considered an in-kind contribution to her campaign. So they were fined for that. That's how it was considered. And it violated equal time. That's why they had to rush on. What was it before? It was some game or something. It was like on Sunday. They had to rush forward this interview with Trump. And tried to do a make good for it. Well, I don't think that that actually suffice. But, you know, and the courts didn't either. And that's why they ended up having to settle Kamala Harris's campaign. They had to settle. CBS had to settle because of it. So my point is that it is so dangerous. This has never gone away for these people. They still cannot compete. I don't know. Like X is a cesspool of algorithmic suppression. I've had the same number of followers for like months. I still like I will have tweets. I literally have had for about eight months before Elon Musk purchased X. I did not lose or gain a single follower. And I took screenshots every single day. I have a folder that documents all of it. And you can see I and I can't even believe I wouldn't even lose one. It was so frozen. At one point, I lost 40,000 followers in one night. I ended up losing 200,000 followers another night. They would just delete half of my followers. There will be posts that I have on X where I will get 10 views. I don't even know how that happens. How do you get something where there's some where I get zero? This still happens today. So and I real they put so many algorithmic suppressions. If you talk about guns, if you talk about trans, all these little layers of suppressions, algorithmic restrictions layer over your account. So you got it. And Musk has talked about it, but it's still Iraq. Right. So this is what the left wants. How is that not a giant in-kind contribution? And to see him talking about this still is insane. We've got to get going. We have today or no, no, no. 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Oh, Luis Guzman! That guy's got more character in his mustache than most actors have in their entire careers. He's the kind of actor who can make you laugh just by looking at him. Now, what do you want to know more about? His roles or his illustrious mustache? Tell me about Luis Guzman in Spanish.
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Oh, Luis Guzman! What does he like to eat?
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Well, one of the nights you should definitely try some comfort food. How about some good ol' mac and cheese or maybe a juicy burger? Now tell me, what's your favorite comfort food? A burger!
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This is AI.
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A burger? Oh, you've got taste. Nothing beats a well-made burger with all the fixing. Now tell me, how do you like your burger cooked? Medium rare. Medium rare? Yes. You know how to live? That's the perfect way to enjoy a burger. What?
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So we had a listener who sent this in, and it's, I mean, it's, Yeah, it goes all the way. Let it go to the end because it's actually crazy at the end. This is wild. It's all AI. He's interacting with AI. And so the point of this, imagine this is being used in education. I've already heard from some homeschooling co-ops that are using AI. What does that do for teachers? If you have an AI educator that can lead class and do all of this, you would basically need like, you know, I think it's what they say, classroom monitors in the classrooms, like how you have like automated self-checkout and you just have someone make sure the checkout goes okay. That's what you would have. You would have monitors in the classroom, but the educators would be AI. And then parents could review everything. It'd be easy to access and see everything that they're taught, all of that stuff. Wow. So it's not there's a lot of professions that are going to be impacted. And education is tops. I think we got a lot more on the way. Second hour. Stick with us. More of the Dana show coming up. Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is out there in Patriot Mobile. wants to not only make sure that you can afford your service, but they want to assure you that your hard-earned dollars are not going to be used on things that you vote against at the ballot box. And to that effect, I mean, Patriot Mobile, I have never had an issue with my cell phone service. I have used it all over the globe. I have used it all over this nation. I've had it for over 10 years. I have like the big giant Cadillac plan. I have to because of obviously my job and my whole family's on it. I'm literally paying less than what I did before I switched. And it's not just I mean, yes, you want to pay less for your cell phone service and get great service. But it's about more than that. You have to be really, really mindful with your dollars. And we are not very blessed, you know, on the right in order. That we have a lot of choices for certain things, but you do have a choice on where to spend your dollars, where it concerns your cell phone service. So I have no idea why anybody hasn't switched, because if you haven't, you need to realize that you were giving a lot of money to the things that you work against and vote against and speak against and stand against. And we know this because of the open records that are required by the Federal Elections Commission. They have to file this because of how they spend this money. We can see exactly what they're spending your cell phone money on. So why in the world would you not make the switch to Patriot Mobile? In addition to having the best... nationwide coverage by operating on all three major networks you're going to spend less they have a 100 us-based customer service you also can get a free month of service using promo code dana but they're not spending your money to work against you and your family visit patriot mobile.com slash dana or call 972 patriot and get a free month of service using promo code dana switch today and defend freedom with every call and text you make that's patriot mobile.com slash dana 972 patriot
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I mean, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, he's a rapture prepper. This guy's waiting for the rapture, just like Ted Cruz is. So you have this whole sect of MAGA that they support Israel because they want the Jews to be in Israel so that Jesus can come back for the rapture. And that's a very real thing that's in Congress. And that's not foreign policy. That's magical thinking. So, Alex, what do you think about this?
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I support it.
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What is a reality television interior designer who can't move her face? What significance does she bring to CNN's little editorial roundtable? I'm curious. Can anybody say it? Anybody know? She moves furniture around. Well, no, she couldn't. She can't even move her eyebrows up, so no. Daniel, you're so mean. Yes, I am. Joan Rivers was an icon, and my goal in life is to be 1 16th of whatever she was. I'm just being honest. Don't hate the messenger, okay? I just am curious. That was CNN, right? Were they just like, could they not call a pundit? Did they go to 1-800-CALL-A-PUNDIT? You got a bunch of desperate, thirsty Marxist pundits out there who would do just about every, well, no, they would do anything just to get a little bit of airtime on CNN so they don't yell into the void on social media. But the best they could do, I had to look this chick up. I was like, who is this chick? I mean, she and Kathy Hochul go to the same injector. Wow. Dana, you're so mean. Welcome. Hi. It's like you just met me. Anyway, seriously, though, welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. Do not expect grace for people who are just ignorant like that. I don't even know what she's talking about. Some of the stuff is just what leftists make up, right? I really don't know what she does. Let's go to our furniture designer mover.
SPEAKER 16 :
She's trying to imply that support for Israel is a religious, frivolous reasoning. When actually cut for is one of the main reasons why.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, go ahead and play cut four then.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. Go ahead and play it. Let's do that.
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Listening live at Tenafly, Welcome's Home, 21-year-old American-Israeli Adon Alexander. Adon!
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Oh, man. There he goes, Martha. He is back in his hometown of Tenafly, New Jersey. 584 days.
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Wait.
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The streets are lined with his friends and family. Just a celebration of love. Families have come out here together. There are so many signs saying, welcome home, Edan. Israeli flags, American flags. The alliance not only playing out in the Middle East, but obviously you see here just a really special moment for everybody here in Tanafly, a small town, 15,000... This morning I was talking to a friend of mine, Josh Hammer, who...
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He's an editor over at Newsweek. He's been on the show before. And him and his wife and their six-month-old baby, they were over in Israel when all of this stuff happened. And they said that they were trying to ride it out. They had to go to this basement bomb shelter. Every house has a bomb shelter where they were staying. And you had to be ready at a moment's notice to jump out of bed and seek shelter. And he said that the last straw for him was when there was a missile strike. early Monday morning in the town right by where they were. And two of the people that were killed were in their bomb shelter at the time. And so he got in touch with that Gray Bull Rescue. We talked to Jay Collins, Senator Jay Collins from Florida yesterday about this. And they organized it. And Senator Collins very heroically volunteered to just have his own time and go out there and represent Florida and help bring Americans home. And he said it was hard to leave early, but they had to. And he said on the way to the evacuation pickup point, we drove directly by a factory that was on fire and billowing massive black smoke from a direct Iranian missile strike. And he said it was really harrowing. And he said that, you know, for three days we have been evacuating. They had to cross into the border in Jordan, stay a night in Amman, and then they flew to Cyprus. They were outside Larnaca. And then he got in early, early this morning. And when they arrived, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis met them at the airport. because he threw Gray Bull Rescue at graybullrescue.org. He was chartering planes to try to get people, Americans home, doing everything that he could. And he met them at the airport and made sure that everybody had everything that they needed and was very concerned. And just, I mean, the extraordinary effort made by so many to get Americans home. Because when you're going overseas... You know, and you're visiting family or whatever. You have every right to go wherever the hell you want. You know, you're not expecting to be caught in, you know, Iranian aggression. And yet that's what happens. Just really cool that I'm glad he was able to get home safe and so many were able to get home safe. But to the point that we were talking about, this is why. That is why people do this. And I just don't understand, you know, people like this chick. Like, oh, well, you know, this is what they believe. They're rapture preppers. Well, I could say even meaner things about you, but I'm trying really, really hard to be nice, but it wouldn't take a lot to push me over that line. So let's just leave it at that. Welcome back. Top of the second hour here on the program. Dana Lash with you. And we were talking, I gotta say. we're going to come back to all the Iran and Israel stuff, but we, we play this video where we were talking about maybe a potential, one of the revolutions, maybe an education is actual AI educators instead of in-person teachers where you would have to have like just maybe class monitors, monitor things. And you would have an AI educator. Lorraine was reminding us. Yeah. But every time they turn a chat bot loose on the internet, it yells slurs in like 10 minutes. And yeah. Ooh, I, I'm, How would that work? It's like a Chappelle show skit.
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I'm actually more for it now that she said that.
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Well, you think about it because you train it. And if it's in the classroom, are you still, is it, are you still training it in the classroom? It doesn't ever, it doesn't go into like non-training mode. It always is learning.
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That video we saw with Luis Guzman and with Howie Mandel. It appears that they've got it like a system down. It doesn't look like Howie Mandel is going to break out a bunch of cuss words.
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Well, we only watched like a minute.
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That's true.
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Give it a few more minutes, Cain.
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Do you really think it's what it will evolve to?
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I don't know. I mean, look, if there's a bad... If there's potential badness, that'll happen. That's just how... I always expect the worst, so I can be super pleasantly surprised. I just expect the worst. But imagine, like, you know, you... Oh, it's a great idea. We're going to have AI educators, and then they're screaming slurs at, like, a room full of terrified first graders. I don't know. I mean, what pushes them over... You know, what pushes them over the brink?
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I think it's a little hyperbolic on the fear. I think it is.
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Oh, I don't think so. I don't know. You know, because I watched a documentary about this.
SPEAKER 16 :
You did?
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Yeah. Oh, well then, I've got nothing. It's a series, a documentary series about this. Maybe you've heard of it. It's called Terminator.
SPEAKER 16 :
I have heard of that.
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And that robot went nuts.
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Documentary, you say?
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Yes. And it tried to kill one of the students.
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Wow.
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It came back from the future to kill the students. This is wild. And then the mom had to do like a serious, you know, PTA kind of move and murk it. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know, man. I feel like I've seen these movies. I've seen what happens. We've seen what happens. Very historical documentaries. It's called The Terminator. And you can watch this documentary too.
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Documentary full of video evidence.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I mean... just got to keep that in mind. But that's the only thing like I, you know, I like the I like the idea because you wouldn't have a bad teacher, right? There are a lot of good teachers out there, but I feel like there there are more average teachers than there are really great teachers. The really great teachers. I just want to capture and lock into a room and clone them, you know, because they're very valuable. The bad ones. Now, but just think about it. You wouldn't have a bad teacher. You wouldn't. I don't know. I feel like there I get too hesitant to say it might be a solution to a problem that we can still fix on our own. But still, I don't know. It's all kind of nerve wracking. All right. So if you I told you I was telling you. At the start of the riots, Gavin Newsom's wife, she was shopping in Beverly Hills. She had her tote bag. It wasn't just any tote bag. It was a laminated canvas backyard bag. It's like twenty three hundred dollars. And I don't know what size she had, but I'm just assuming at least the medium size. In the meantime, while she was shopping in Beverly Hills with her coffee and her designer stuff, the riots are happening. What do you think he was? He was at a wine tasting event. Sipping Cabernet. He was sipping Cabernet. Literally peak riots. And it was the winery fundraiser. He was raising money for himself at a swanky wine tasting event. Not even kidding. That's what he was doing. That's what he was doing as everything was raging in Los Angeles. This reminds me of the French laundry stuff. You guys remember when you had I actually I think there are several of these instances. You guys remember when in the early days of the riots or not, right? So COVID, everybody had to stay home and you couldn't go out, et cetera, et cetera. And he was pictured with a group, a huge group of people in Napa at French Laundry, the super bougie restaurant that's up there. I've never been. I've never been in Napa. I've never been to French Laundry. And he was up there at this restaurant with all these people in one room. And a photo of that got out and he was dragged for it. They got mad at him for that, but then they didn't get mad at him like several weeks later. one of the Getty kids got married. So the Newsoms and the Pelosi's, the Getty's and the Hearst's are all like very close. They're the families that run California and they're all pretty much based in San Francisco. And they had one of the Getty kids. She had, she brought in John Galliano and, who used to design for Givenchy, brought him in to do her dress, all this stuff. And he ended up doing like two of her dresses and they had a spread about it in Vogue all while we were all supposed to be in our homes with face masks on. I'm not kidding. Not kidding. And I think Anya Taylor-Joy was there. Who else? I mean, it was a who's who. Nobody had. I'm like looking at some of the photos. Nobody had masks on. Nobody was like doing the distancing. And they had this big wedding there and, you know, et cetera, et cetera. He got dragged more for the French laundry than that. That was when all of their... Nancy Pelosi was there literally while your kids couldn't even go to school. They were doing this. They had this big wedding. It was this big Art Deco building in San Francisco. It was like an old bank. And it's where they had the wedding. And it was gorgeous. I mean, as you can imagine, a billionaire's wedding would be... for an heiress it was you know a who's who of everybody sitting shoulder to shoulder dancing you know having canapes you know they were just you know enjoying the night meanwhile we're all masking our kids can't go to school you can't go on vacation you can't even go to the grocery store it's insane people are getting fined if they have too many kids and try to go to the park as one of my friends was in california at the exact same time couldn't even take all of her kids to the park So I'm just saying, this is par for the course for Gavin Newsom with this. So he's at a wine tasting event. His wife is shopping designer in Beverly Hills. And Los Angeles is burning. And this guy wants to run for president in 28. Just going to lay that all out there. We got a lot more on the way as we move. We got headlines coming up. All family pharmacy. a great website that makes it so easy for you to get the medications that you need. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So a Northeast Midwest heat wave could smash dozens of records, including in New York, Philly and Chicago. That is it's supposed to be like, what is the temperature here? I don't know. What is it? Because they said it was going to be like in the 100s, 100 degrees here. But I don't think that it has gotten here to its 90s. So it's going to be for us. It's going to be in the 90s. Texas was originally included as part of it, but I don't think it's happened. But New York, Philly and Chicago were going to get hit because it was stretching all the way from the Northeast, all the way down in the parts of the South. So everyone's, I mean, it's summer, so humans are going to live in a huge space oasis on Mars in just 15 years, according to the European Space Agency. I'll believe it when I see it. I don't know. I don't know. Do you believe it? Meh. Meh. We'll see. We'll see. Bob Iger and Willow Bay's Angel City FC has something to say about LA ice raids. Oh, my gosh. Why does anybody have to even say anything about it? Why? Why does anyone have to say anything? They're saying that Angel City FC took a stand for illegal immigrants. Because apparently they're too stupid to differentiate between legal and illegal immigrants. They got a touch of the Angel Reese in the head, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I don't get it. Why? There's a difference between legal and illegal immigrant. Different. There's a difference. So why muddy the water like this? Why get involved and make statements? Just kick the ball. Just do it. A simple fitness test could predict how long you will live. This is really the sitting rising test. I guess if you can't do it, you die immediately. Let's see.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hopefully not immediately.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. It's a study published in the European Journal of Preventative Cardiology, and it looked at over 4,000 men and women between the ages of 46 and 75. Can you lower yourself from a standing position to the floor and then stand back up with a little assistance from your hands, knees, or furniture or human helpers? Who can't? Not me. What?
SPEAKER 16 :
You mean to go to sit on the ground without the use of your hands? And then get up without the use of your hands. Yeah, no, I can't.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm going to die. Oh, you're going to die.
SPEAKER 19 :
You're dead. You're dead already, probably, right now. I'm going to have to call the coroner. Stick with us. We've got a lot more on the way. Several things, in fact. The latest with WNBA and also... Darktide. That's what I want to say. Stick with us. Kel-Tec, the PR57. It is the lightest and thinnest 5.7 that's on the market. And it's from Kel-Tec. And they came out with it earlier this year. And the PR57, as I said, chambered in 5.7, rotary barrel pistol. It's 40% lighter. than the competition and uh... they accomplish this in two ways specifically the rotary barrel but also the unique top loading design that replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips for slimmer carry profile and you have a twenty plus one capacity the MSRP makes it super affordable it's only three ninety nine And it's built to perform when it matters most. Low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. Quickest and easiest field strip that's out there. You have to check it out. It is the PR57 rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7 from Kel-Tec. Everything made in the USA, actually in Florida. Keltecweapons.com. Innovation, performance, Kel-Tec. Tell them Dana sent you.
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SPEAKER 24 :
There is sufficient reason to marshal resources together to see what the hell's going on here, which may be even caused by underlying what do you call it, syphilitic? I don't know what the fuck the medical word for it is. In other words, he may have the clock. And I think this is, I think it's, we had the no kings, which is the largest thing. And, you know, maybe we should have no syphilis rallies.
SPEAKER 18 :
Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're as cringy as I... You feel as cringy as I do?
SPEAKER 19 :
We all need a minute. See, at this point, this is when I would play like a little Orinoco flow to cleanse the palate, but Phil will die. And then he'll never get the song out of his head again. And we can't do Phil Dirty like that. Phil's filling in for Steve right now. He's on vacay. But still, though, you know, just as a palate cleanser. What? Yeah. So, he thinks, that's James Carville. I get why you hate old people, man. It's so clear. That's not fair. I mean, I don't hate all old people, but, you know. That's not all old people. I mean, he probably knows a lot of Carville's. I just don't... Can I just... I have no idea how to segue out of this. There was James Carville talking about syphilis. It's this audio soundbite I did not have on my bingo card. Nobody did.
SPEAKER 16 :
He had this long rant. It was, I mean, four or five minutes long. And it was difficult to pull anything out of it.
SPEAKER 18 :
There's more?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. I mean, we don't have it. I didn't pull it intentionally. But yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
So I don't. So no King's rallies, he said, should be the no syphilis rallies.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. In that rant, he was claiming because there was a picture of Trump's hands and he said his hands looked a little plump. So because of his hands looking plump.
SPEAKER 19 :
That could have something to do with circulation.
SPEAKER 16 :
Could be. But I mean, Dr. Carville had an opinion.
SPEAKER 19 :
I always want to know what Dr. Carville says. You know, Dr. Carville, what's wrong? My baby has a cough and a runny nose. It's syphilis. It's a syphilic condition. It's a syphilicus babicus. That's what he's got. That's the Latin name of that particular strain of the syphilis. My gosh, this is syphilicus trumpicus or whatever. Oh my gosh, I can't. He said that he saw red spots on his hands and his thought immediately was syphilis.
SPEAKER 11 :
Of course. Isn't it obvious?
SPEAKER 19 :
Why? Okay. All right. Let's move on. I mean. Thank you. Thanks for that delectable audio soundbite, Kane. We are all better for having heard it.
SPEAKER 16 :
You can thank Dr. Carville.
SPEAKER 19 :
Stop it. OK, let's play audio. You know, wait, wait, wait. I'm not going to do one yet. I do want to touch on this issue of how now apparently now overnight, Sophie Cunningham is like the second biggest star in the WNBA. Her jerseys have sold out. Everybody loves her. And it's her very first season with Fever. And she's like the second biggest player in the WNBA now. All of the race lesbians are going to be super mad at her. They're going to be super mad. That is her right there taking Jackie Sheldon into a clench. Imagine your show. I can't get over it. You're Sheldon and you're going to step to a girl who's got a black belt in Taekwondo. Like you deserve to have your both your cheeks kicked, man. You know? I think Cunningham could take everybody on that bench. Someone was like, oh, well, man, it's a good thing that Mariana Mabry didn't stand up. And I'm like, why? So she could get her ass kicked, too? Like, what? Like, I desperately want to know what she was saying. She put her in a clinch, as you could tell. And then when Sheldon realized that there's nothing she can do, someone said that they thought Cunningham was going, what are you going to do now? What are you going to do now? Oh, my gosh. Please let it be. So... Now, Caitlin Clark is super popular. And now Sophie Cunningham is super popular for defending her. And it just overnight like that, it happened. And I think that's awesome. Do you know that she was a point kicker for her football team in Missouri? So she played basketball. She grew up in Columbia, Missouri. Cunningham played basketball in Missouri. And she also was the kicker for her football team. And apparently it was very good. Now she's the enforcer. That's I mean, really, that's it makes sense. She's protecting Cunningham and she's protecting Caitlin Clark and Cunningham's got her back. I think that Clark's other teammates, some of them have been stepping up. But I think, you know, the way that this it just goes to show you people, they want they want to see a fair game. I just think that's that's awesome. Like everything she had, all of her. Are you going to see more Cunningham jerseys? If you can get them. There was a surge in Google searches for her jersey since Tuesday night. Huge interest in Iowa and Missouri and Indiana. Kansas and Utah. Texas as well. Louisiana and Bama. Those are the most interest. And even in Illinois. Illinois. Angel Reese area that's a lot of people were interested in Sophie Cunningham's number eight fever jersey she has doubled her following on TikTok and Instagram she added hundreds of thousands of followers in just two days she got she got over 500,000 followers on TikTok within the first 24 hours of this incident of her stepping up for Clark WNBA are you watching this are you seeing how this is working do you see where the eyeballs are going Man. And the interesting thing is that the only reason anybody even knows Angel Reese's name is because of how nasty she's been and mean she's been. The only reason that people know Jackie Sheldon's name right now is because Jackie Sheldon acted like a thug is why. Actually, Jackie Sheldon acted like some trailer trash on that court. Let's be real. She was just nasty. She was just thuggish. She was not, you know, that was not a good sportsmanship at all. And I just think it's amazing that, you know, that this happened the way that you stand up for your teammate and you give the audience a good game. And look what happens. WNBA needs to be watching this. Other players should be watching this. Maybe some of these other players on Fever will stick up for Clark now every single time that they try, you know, tripping her, knocking her to the ground, poking fingers in her eye, all this other stuff. I just, that's pretty amazing. Over 500. Followers. That's crazy.
SPEAKER 16 :
You remember yesterday when we were wanting to know what she was saying to her? I did a little search on the internet and found a lip reader who claims that while she had her in the clinch, she was saying, quote, do something about it. Do something about it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, I love it. I love it. Yeah, you can't because you're in a clinch, girl. You can't. I love it. But yeah, think about it, though. I think all of the race-hustling lesbians on that team in that league are going to be super mad now. Because here you got, you got Caitlin Clark, number one, and now you're going to have Sophie Cunningham, number two. And on the same team, nonetheless. On the same team. I love it. All right, I got to put this up to you. This story. New York Post. Dogs are immediate family. A New York judge rules in an unprecedented decision over a Datsun that was run over by an out-of-control driver. Oh my gosh, I don't even know if I want to continue. It was an adorable tuxedo-wearing Datsun named Duke. Uh-huh, it had a tuxedo on. Oh my gosh. A Brooklyn judge ruled. That the family can sue for emotional distress because the dog was mowed down in front of them. Nan DeBlaze, who was walking her son Trevor's dog on July 4th of 23. They're saying she's entitled to damages because she was tormented by witnessing the helpless four-year-old dog get crushed. And yeah, a little tuxedo wearing Dotson. Oh my gosh. It was two years ago. She was walking him and an out-of-control driver blew through the stop sign. and ran into them she jumped out of harm's way and was trying to take the dog with her but the car ran over the dog was leashed i'm not even going to tell you what i would have done to that driver you saw john wick right i am not kidding you saw john wick right okay and he just literally walked down the aisle at trevor's wedding in a tuxedo he was in her son's wedding And the it was all captured on video and it showed the mom walking the son's dog. And, you know, she was patient. She was just out enjoying her day. You know, she waited as other cars were going, waited for it to be clear before she crossed the street. And then this guy blew through the stop sign, ran over the dog and almost killed her, too. I am. That is horrible. So the family sued and they challenged an antiquated law that only allowed for Trevor to sue the driver for the market value of the dog and medical costs. And they're like, I agree. I think that stuff like this needs to have a terrifying penalty. If you're out there driving drunk, blowing through stop signs. Oh, yes. And you do something like this. I think you need to be made an example of. Absolutely. My great grandparents were killed by a drunk driver. It was in Jefferson County. Somebody plowed right into him and killed him. So the medical costs and all of this, because she did get injured, but she was, I mean, thankfully she wasn't, you know, severely injured. And she, because she was tethered to him at the time of the accident. It almost sounds like a Royal Tenenbaum thing where that, you know, their dog got run over. But they, that's what the judge, you know, That's the determination that the judge made. I like I said, I think I agree with it. I mean, that has to be pretty horrible. You know, you're out there walking your son's dog and you and that dog is like, you know, no one's saying dogs are kids. And I swear if I get any emails about that, I'm going to print them out and I'm going to shoot them. I will take them out to the range and I'm going to blow holes in them, take a photo of it and send it back to the person who decided to make such a stupid remark to me. but it's a value there's a value that they offer right and that dog apparently was with this dude you know as he graduated college and met his wife and it was they were you know thought it was cute to have him like walk in the wedding you know just like a little thing for the everybody to talk about at the wedding the mom's out walking him having you know living her life living her best life almost gets killed by a drunk driver and she's still attached because the the leash was around her wrist that she was holding still attached to the dog that was under the car So I don't, I agree with this. Although I would have also been, I carry, oh my gosh, here's the whole other thing. I know we gotta go. So I carry anyway when it goes on locks because we got coyotes in the area. We heard them last night, yip, yip, yipping, and they apparently killed a, they took down a calf at the ranch across the road from us. They took down a calf, and they killed another neighbor's dog. So we got a pack of coyotes. So whenever we go out, I always carry, anyway, now I'm carrying bigger caliber because they were apparently, like a bunch of them were seen in a ravine right by our house. So that's what I would do to a coyote if it challenged my dog. Imagine what I would do to a drunk driver that plowed through a stop sign. and ran into my dog. Oh my gosh, had John wick his A-double snakes into a hole in the ground, I'd send him to hell. So, there you go. So, good for this. I actually agree with this whole case. I should talk more about the coyotes thing because they're a nuisance around here. They're overpopulated. It's not an issue of... The neighborhood moving into their habitat. It's an issue of their breeding numbers are really large. It's their population is not managed well. So Texas considers them nuisance animals. And so there isn't any restrictions on getting them because they are there. There are so many of them. It's an this is what happens to all of the environmentalists when you don't control populations. animal populations it throws the entire uh ecosystem awry it throws everything off balance and and then it's it's a wreck for other for other animals within that structure we have a lot more on the way as we move folks at angel studios you can become a guild member over at angel studios they have a great new release called the king of kings and what angel studios does is they release i mean these are top-notch films like king of kings 98% audience rating. It has an all-star cast. You have Kenneth Bragna, Uma Thurman, Ben Kingsley, Pierce Bronin's in it. They always have excellent materials that are really, really well cast. 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SPEAKER 10 :
What if the miracle you needed came before you even knew how to ask for it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Six months probability is what they told her. She prayed the prayer, if there is a God, let me know the truth before I die. And that evening, about nine o'clock, a man in a white lab coat came in and asked her to get out of the bed. And he said, I find no disease in your body.
SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hmm. Trying to figure out how to... There's a couple of things here. All right, first up. A Florida man was arrested after he, like a moron, decided to taunt Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd online. Grady Judd lives to make criminals' lives miserable. Hello. and uh lakeland police department they said they had the back of polk county he posted online that the polk county sheriff couldn't find him so lakeland found him and then they gave him over to polk county i love it i love it not because he was because he literally actually has a he's like an accepted repeat or he's a repeat offender uh and he said uh They were challenging him. He goes, you all didn't catch me when I left my grandma's house today. You should have waited longer because they went to go serve a warrant. And so they got him. They said, yeah, challenge accepted. We got you. So they got him. And then they posted a photo with him in cuffs and he's smiling and they're smiling. It's actually hysterical. Do you see the photo where he's like? They're all smiling at each other. It was hysterical. But he had multiple felony warrants.
SPEAKER 16 :
He fought the law.
SPEAKER 19 :
And the law totally won. But, yeah, they and, you know, he didn't fight or he didn't resist arrest or anything. I'll give him that. You know, he goes, maybe you're going to need a horse or a helicopter. Level up. Hashtag level up. Hashtag I'm gone, Grady. And they caught him anyway. But I love how they all took photos with him. And he's smiling. He didn't resist arrest. He went willingly. He's like, okay, you got me. You know, I guess games got to recognize game. Okay. Let's see here. Got a box cutter attack. Oh, I can't read this one. This one I don't understand. A Florida man broke into a random house because he was trying to get away from his angry wife. Dang. Right? This poor man. Apparently, a 44-year-old Florida man just snuck into a random house. He did not want to go home to his wife, who was mad. And he broke into the house. He stayed there for several days. He cooked several meals and had a luxurious bath. A neighbor tasked with watching the house while the homeowner was away noticed, like, there's some stuff going on. They said, there's a dude here in your house making dinner, and he just had a bath. It's like Goldilocks and the Three Bears, right? He just comes on in, sits in all the chairs and all that. So he didn't have any idea who owned the house. But when the police were asking, how did this happen? He's like, I did not want to go home because my wife is very angry. He did not want to go. I wanted to be like, what is happening to you?
SPEAKER 16 :
How bad is she to him?
SPEAKER 19 :
How mean is she to you? Oh, my gosh. So, yeah, there's better things to do. We need a battered men's thing because you shouldn't have to break into somebody's house to get away from your angry wife. All right, we've got a lot more on the way. Third hour next. All Family Pharmacy, a great website that makes it so easy for you to get the medications that you need. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've used All Family Pharmacy. They saved Thanksgiving because I was able to get antibiotics overnighted. They have antibiotics. They have your daily medications. They have ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. They have all of this stuff and they are super affordable. No insurance required. They have licensed doctors in all 50 states and they're offering 20% off site-wide for the month of June. It is, I mean, it's already affordable, but now it's even more affordable. They understand you need a little bit of breathing room as well. But again, they make it so incredibly easy. You can visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use the code Dana20 because that's how you get the 20% off of your entire order. You get fair prices, better access. Everybody deserves meds without the markup and they deserve access without, you know, big pharma trying to gatekeep. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Get 20% off using promo code Dana20. Don't wait for permission to protect your family and yourself. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana20 to save 20%.
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Well, we want to have land so we can have housing built in certain areas like this area. They don't have the housing. And we have so much land and we want to put it to use. So we're going to have land released and on that land we're going to build housing. We're going to have housing built.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, I think that that's bad. Public lands, the idea that we are going to sell off land to like entities like BlackRock, I... Don't think that that's... Why? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. This is... We're at the top of this third hour. The chat's at Rumble, channel 347, DirecTV is where you can watch the radio show. So this is one of the things that everybody's debating because Mike Lee actually promoted this, like purchasing or selling off some of the publicly owned land to private bidders. I mean, you could have like BlackRock buy stuff. You could have... I mean, hell, probably the CCP. I don't even know. But, you know... I cannot imagine why this needs to be done. The money that would be raised for this is like infinitesimal. It's not a big and a large enough amount to offset anything. And the way that it was being promoted is that it would help offset tax cuts, but it's not even enough to do that. How crazy is that, by the way? That's how much our government spends. Our government spends actually that much. So why in the world are we even... Why are we messing with this? Why are we doing this? This doesn't make any sense. And I will say that Ryan Zink, isn't he interior? He kept this out of the House bill. So this... idea that, you know, thankfully the House did not include it in the bill that they kicked to the Senate. And now the Senate is wanting to put this in the big, beautiful bill. And Ryan Zink gets a lot of credit for not having that in the House bill. I want to make that very clear. This proposal to sell off our land is was not in the house proposal because they don't want over development they don't want black rock acquiring it they don't want ccp acquiring it and you're not going to be able to prevent that if you're you know they're not selling off like national park land there's there is a restriction on the type of land that they're selling but it's land that technically could be bought up by these very entities that we do not want to acquire them and i would imagine that they would move to make those purchases So Zink kept it out of the House bill. And now you've got people like Mike Lee that are wanting to put it in the Senate bill. And everybody that I know that works with land management that is like a legitimate conservationist is very much, you know, against this. You know, I mean, it's. Having multiple use management of public lands and having the ability to, you know, for minerals and energy development and things like that. I mean, that's a good use. I don't I'm not into like overdevelopment. I'm not into like taking it back to what do they call that? Wilding or whatever. The opposite of over to rewilding or something like that. Not into that either. But the I just everybody I just this is a bad move. It's a it's a bad move. It's a gimmick. It is a gimmick. And I also think that there's there there's a two prong thought process to this where it concerns public land, because what Democrats like to do is what we saw with Bureau of Land Management. With, you know, minerals and like the Red River between Texas and Oklahoma is a classic example, right? BLM, not Burn Loot Murder, but Bureau of Land Management, they constantly fight with ranchers there because they say, you know, the river, it ebbs and flows and all that. It changes a little bit every year depending on, you know, what the season's like. And they try to argue that they try to confiscate ranchers land there using these like weak arguments about the river's edge and how it flows, et cetera, et cetera. And they've been fighting with ranchers there to try to seize their land for years. And that's an example of abuse where they use these these agencies to restrict public access. In the same way that they're using it to restrict ownership for these ranchers and that, the Bureau of Land Management has constantly enforced stupid regulations and policy to restrict access to public lands. And I think the other way of approaching compromise of access is when you are selling off stuff and it's getting overdeveloped, right? I I understand that there is an argument to be made for constitutional authorization. But at the same time, you're not going to even get close to. you're not going to save anything. This is just goes into a black hole. This accomplishes nothing. That's how much government spends. Government spends so much. You're not even going to get into like one 40th, one 50th of the amount that you need in order to offset, you know, government spending or allowing people to keep more of their own money instead of taxing them more. That's just the way it is. This is like when Elizabeth Warren says we need to tax all the wealthy people, etc. You could confiscate all of the wealth, all of everything that they have of billionaires and millionaires in this country, and you're not even going to touch debt. You're not even going to touch the nation's debt because that's how much government spends. Similarly, you can sell off as much public land as you want to. You're not even going to come close to touching the debt that the United States has or offsetting anything because the government will not stop spending. And I do not trust this government to engage in this sale process and prevent entities like the CCP or BlackRock from acquiring it, right? Why can't... I mean, that's one of the reasons why I think that there was such a sale of this land to China. Why China bought so much of this land. I don't like this. And I know that when they talk about development, you notice how they're very vague about this. It's a provision, again, if you're joining us, it's a provision that Senate is trying to propose for the big, beautiful bill. And it is a bad one. It's one of those where... I just think that this is bad, bad, bad. And I don't know any hunter that supports this. I don't know any actual rancher that supports this, any environmentalist that supports this. Absolutely none of it. There was also some that were saying some of the land that they're looking at actually is going to create a problem for grazing rights and some mineral rights issues. So then what are you going to have like eminent domain that comes in for some of the mineral rights issues? You know what I mean? Like it. So in certain states, like government can own land, but you could own the rights to minerals within the land and it becomes a whole thing. So how does that play out? That's another aspect of this that I don't think has been fully explored. This is just not the approach for this. Just I don't know. Here's an idea. Maybe stop spending. We're creating problems, new problems for ourselves because the government won't stop spending. So we try to think of solutions to offset their refusal to stop spending and then the solutions end up being as bad if not worse maybe than not stopping spending. Does that make sense? I'm just not, and what are they gonna build homes? How are they gonna develop it? How else can you develop it to make it financially useful? Because a lot of the lands that they're talking about that I've seen some politicians say can be developed for like housing, etc. You realize that you can't just put houses in the middle of nowhere with no infrastructure. Where does the sewage come from? Water, sewage, electricity, gas, all of it. You don't have that structure there. So I just don't know. I was really... I was just actually surprised to see some of the lawmakers tweet this and promote this or post about it on X, like Mike Lee and others. They want to sell the federal land. They said, oh, it's no threat to nature. Federal lands don't benefit Americans when you're selling it off to BlackRock and the CCP, right? I mean, I pay enough. We all pay enough in taxes that I think we should get a say on this, correct? But they're actually talking about creating residential communities. Lee's given some insight in that. And this is Mike Lee's part of one of his proposals. So I don't know. And I don't see anything in there that would prevent. I just can't get over that. I mean, they would just sell it to the highest bidder. We have a major problem with CCP owned farmland, your military bases. And it's not a one or two off. It's a lot. We have a major issue with CCP-owned land. Can we just revisit, by the way, how Mossad brilliantly pulled off this international attack within Iran with this drone base that they had built within Iran? I mean, didn't we just have spy balloons from China, several of them, what, last summer? Summer before last one, was it last summer? I don't know. I'm a little nervous about this, Cain. I get a little nervous.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, here's what I look at it with less nervousness, only because I suspect that they're creating this as assets to back some of the debt. Now, I know that you're going to say, well, it's only going to cover maybe 10 billion depending on how many acres they're actually able to sell. But I think it's more important that they contextualize what it is they're doing because These questions you're bringing up are completely legitimate and people should know. I think that they're vague because of zoning issues. I think that also that this is an attempt to flood the market. What happens when you have a lot of supply? What happens to the price? It goes down. And I think that they're trying to help the real estate prices regulate and correct by doing this also. So I see what you're saying. There's potential for not good. As a matter of fact, I would rather.
SPEAKER 19 :
Let me add to that point because in the bill, do you know that the government is not required to tell you which lands it's going to sell off until 60 days after it sells it off?
SPEAKER 16 :
What?
SPEAKER 17 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. It's under process priority and consideration. Not later than 60 days after the date of enactment of this act and every 60 days thereafter, the secretary concerned shall publish a list of tracks of Bureau of Land Management land and National Forest System land identified by the secretary concerned for disposal by the secretary concerned or nominated for disposal under paragraph two that have been selected by the secretary concerned for disposal under this section. So this paragraph reads that. The it doesn't matter, you know, speculation about what land is going to be sold. The government does not have any authority to tell you what lands it's actually going to sell off until 60 days after the sale's been completed.
SPEAKER 16 :
But as the buyer, you know, right? They're not saying you're buying land sight unseen from the government.
SPEAKER 19 :
The bidder will know. So BlackRock will acquire land and no one else is going to know what land is.
SPEAKER 16 :
I haven't seen anything in here that just says BlackRock has the green light to just step in and do this.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm using that as an example because we know it'll be CCP.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right, but I would imagine that's what the contextualization is needed for, because imagine having more Americans owning more American land as opposed to China, as opposed to our own government. I'm okay with that. It's just that they're not contextualizing this properly. They're being intentionally vague, and I think it's because they're in the beginning stages of all this, and I think politicians are testing the water.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, in the little map that they put out, I think is is pretty. Again, it's vague because you're looking at, you know, what is it, three million acres that they're talking about selling off?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Out of a very large amount of acreage.
SPEAKER 19 :
Now, I think the government owns too much land, especially if you look out west. But the problem is that they're selling it off when I think you should let this if you're going to do anything first, let the states have it. Let the states have their own land. That's not in this bill. That's not what this bill is about. The federal government is going to sell it off.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because it already exists as federal land, even though they exist in the states.
SPEAKER 19 :
But they should return it to the state and let the states make that determination. That's my thought on it.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I see Trump has a very basic America first idea. Well, it's a developer perspective. Yeah, it's a developer perspective. Allow Americans to do this. I don't know if I say America first.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's a developer perspective.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's about the economy for him. So when you're developing and more Americans are developing their real estate and they have more ownership in it, of course, they have their own spending going on. That's always been the spark for the economy is when we have more money to spend.
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The other issue, too, with this, and this is a problem that I've had with Democrats and I'll be quick because I know we have headlines. So you have Democrats that put American Indians on the trail of genocide and it was Democrats. That's why yesterday I had the post out about Juneteenth. I'm like, never, ever give Democrats. an opportunity to claim a victory, a Republican victory over Democrat tyranny. Never let them try to interpret that as a W for them, right? Democrats have never wanted American Indians after they forcefully moved them on land to be able to actually own any of the land that they forcefully moved them onto. You can't ever own your own property, like a reservation. And so they don't even give, in this bill, people who were forced to live on that land, barred from purchasing that land because many have tried, they don't even get first right of refusal to bid. that's not even offered that's what i'm saying this needs to get kicked to the states before the federal government just starts selling this stuff off we have a lot more on the way as we move burn a gun always i always carry and i have no problem using lethal force to protect myself the issue though comes from the places that do have issue with you protecting yourself and heaven forbid they offer any kind of armed security to protect you too right Talking about private property restrictions, municipal restrictions, or college kids that are old enough to live on their own and go to school, but they're not old enough to carry a handgun for protection. This is where the Burna gun comes in. So most stun guns have one or two rounds. Burna gun has five. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. There's no recoil. Target acquisition is super easy. And the big thing is that Burna is legal in all 50 states. There's no background checks. There's no waiting periods. There's no permits. They ship it right to your door. It's accessible for everybody. So you still have a means with which to defend yourself. This is why diversity with your weapons array is important. You carry different calibers. You carry rifles and pistols. You have blades. Something like this in those instances is also incredibly helpful. Now, they have rifles, but I think for this explicit purpose... The Berna SD, which is their most popular selling model, and then the Berna CL. The CL stands for compact launcher. That's 38% smaller than the SD. Everything's made right here in the U.S. of A. And you can go and look at the different projectiles. You can actually go and look at how it works. Different projectiles, different accessories, the whole nine yards. But you have an effective deterrent still. And you also have the legal access. Visit Burna.com slash Dana and get your hands on the new Burna CL. That's B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana. Burna, ready when you are.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Wawa, which is so weird to say, sues a New Jersey city over a law that stops it from being open 24 hours a day. So they filed suit against the city of Garfield over a municipal law that prevents their store from operating 24 hours per day. They opened their location back in 2015, and it's just 10 years now. And they're like, their business and goodwill will be irreparably harmed if they're not able to be open 24 hours a day. And so they've been going back and forth. The city voted to amend an ordinance that was first passed in 1972 that barred these retail businesses from operating between midnight and 6 a.m. I just think if you're like a Wawa, like you're a service station. Like that just seems, you know, like why wouldn't you? That just seems like it should be, you know. Okay, a man was arrested for a robbery and he claims the victim was a werewolf. Yeah. So this was in Salt Lake City, Utah. This guy got booked into jail last Saturday. He assaulted a victim and he told police that he was defending himself against a werewolf officers. Jose Perez was booked on one felony count of aggravated robbery. And he literally told Salt Lake City police that the reason he was defending himself is because the guy was a werewolf. And when they had to chase him down, he clearly resisted arrest. He tried to flee multiple times. And then he pulled out a wooden stake with a nail in it. And he told the victim that they were a werewolf and he was going to stab them in the heart with his stake. That's a vampire thing, though. So he's getting his mythologies. He's getting his cryptoids. Yeah, he's getting them messed up a little bit. Yeah, you have to have a silver bullet for a werewolf, not a steak. That's for a vampire. So, mmm, sounds sus. We got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Summer is all about making great memories. Backyard barbecues, road trips, lake days, even just relaxing in a hammock with a good book. Spending time with friends and family, catching sunset views. But if you're living with pain... Those future memories can be stolen from you. It's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain. So here's a thought. Try Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain. It's a doctor-developed formula made with natural ingredients. And unlike pain meds that just mask it, Relief Factor works to reduce, even eliminate, your pain for good. So whether you're spending time at the lake or chasing your kids or grandkids or just enjoying a summer stroll, Relief Factor can help you feel better, move better, and do more of what you love. Reclaim your summer. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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Kamala Harris. light years ahead of Donald Trump as it relates to qualifications, as it relates to her overall resume, and as it relates to the fact that she was a lot younger. Everybody said that they wanted to get rid of Joe Biden because he was too old. Then you had a younger, qualified, non-felon candidate, and somehow the people still chose the old white man.
SPEAKER 19 :
Uh, what? Why does everything have to be about race with her? You know, sometimes it's about qualifications and just competency, right? Quality, competency. Sometimes it's about those things. It's not always about race, but for her it is. And I think for some people that maybe lack the competency or the quality or anything else, that's what they... have to go they have to default back to identity politics they have to default back to race they have to default back to all of this stuff welcome back to the uh program daniel ash with you when we are at the bottom of this third hour uh apparently there was a little earthquake in iran yeah well 5.2 magnitude earthquake in iran huh what quakes the earth Hmm. The Lord. Sometimes the Lord uses tectonic plates and sometimes, you know, things called Moab's.
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Yeah, that's also true.
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I mean, I'm not saying that it is, but, you know, that's interesting. So we'll keep an eye on that. The other thing, too, that Lorraine just caught is very interesting. Apparently, this comes by way of Alpha News. The guy who this is the guy who murdered the lawmaker in Minnesota and tried to enter husband and tried to murder the second lawmaker and had the hit list and all this. Apparently, his so-called confession letter was intended for Kash Patel, and he apparently, according to the letter, blamed Walls. I'm just trying to figure out the motive here. And I think everybody has been. It was a handwritten letter, handwritten letter that they found inside of his Buick. And this was after he tried to kill Senator John Hoffman and his wife. And he was able to kill Melissa Hortman, Minnesota legislature, legislator and her husband. And they said that there was this handwritten note that he had signed and that he confirmed that he was the killer. And this is also per Vegas Larry, that he confirmed that he was the killer and that he kind of gave a little bit of insight into it. So he admitted that he did it and then apparently suggested that the blame was on Waltz. This guy is all over the place. Waltz hasn't commented on any of this stuff. But in the left is done talking about it. Apparently, notice how it's not in any of the headlines anymore. And you've got to not not like slamming alpha news, but you're not seeing it on CNN or the New York Times. You got to go to alpha news to see it. See, can I just add an aside to this? This is what the press does. This is what they did with that laptop story. They refused to talk about it. So you would have to go to other lesser known news sites. And then the bigger legacy press sites were like, oh, well, those are probably like fringe conspiracy sites because they're not as big as us. They actually use the smaller stature of these actual just at more legitimate news sites. They would use that as against them as a way to deny them legitimacy due to the fact that they were smaller. You see how they get away with it? They ride on the coattails of being around for so long. It's crazy. I'm not surprised. I mean, look, Wall said that he was, you know, he was friends with shooters. He did say that. He did say that as well. He did say that. So I don't know. I'm just, you know, just wondering. But he apparently blamed him for the rampage in this letter. And again, this is per Alpha News. And he wrote about it and really just golly, this guy had a lot of stuff written. I don't the amount of stuff that was reported that he had, like notebooks and lists. I think you kind of get a clear idea of his motivation. Right. Are we still like pretending that we don't know? Are we? Because it just doesn't feel helpful at all. Any remark from Waltz? Any remark from any of these leftists that were trying to argue that he's in some way, you know, he's like some leftist or that it had to do with, I don't know. We'll talk more about this as we get more information. One other quick thing. We've got a lot of stuff to hit here. We've got more assets in the Middle East. We told you that USS Gerald Ford was going out. You have the Nimitz that's already on way. Vinson, which is already there. Apparently the USS Gerald Ford is going to replace the Vinson. Or sorry, yeah, the Vinson, which is going to leave. And it'll be Nimitz and Gerald Ford out. So you have two carriers. And then apparently there are a number of other assets left. uh, missile destroyers, uh, apparently, I mean, all kinds of stuff, uh, all, well, all destroyers have missiles, but, you know, you know what I mean, so there's, you have, uh, one, two, three, four, you know, your two carriers, uh, five, uh, uh, destroyers, actually six destroyers are out there, I think, and then, of course, it's not to say, that's just, like, near, uh, the, uh, Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea going into the Red Sea. That's not even talking about the stuff that's in the Mediterranean. And then we have, you know, planes, jets, etc. So peace through strength. I like the posturing, especially if it means that we won't ever have to use any of it because the show of strength would be enough to immediately make them want to walk back into nuclear positioning. And I had one other thing to make sure that we got into before we run out of time. So this came in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. This has to do with California. They had a fight. Well, actually, two things. You have Gavin Newsom, who lost, and Trump absolutely can. enact his executive authority as it relates to National Guard under that Article 10. And then you have Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. It held Second Amendment Foundation summary judgment. It had California's one gun per month. That was the law that they were trying to institute and make it to where you could only purchase one gun at a time, which is crazy, but that's what they were doing. So this is significant also. So Lots of stuff happening. Oh, my gosh. And then I didn't tell you the most important thing that's happening is the new class in Darktide. Everyone's like, oh, my gosh, what? Yeah, I don't care. I don't care. I really don't care. One of the things you need to know about me is I'm a casual gamer. I've always played when I had my first born child. I literally played up until the moment that I had to go to the hospital. I was like, I was playing Mortal Kombat. When I was younger, I think like everybody, I started out with Nintendo. Actually, I watched my cousin when I was really little. What? Oh, gosh. Kane, what was the game system? I can't believe I can't remember it. E.T. was on it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Atari.
SPEAKER 19 :
Atari. Thank you. So I was really young when Atari was out and I would sit in my aunt and uncle's den and I would watch my older cousins play Atari. I was like really little. And it was fascinating to me. And then when I got old enough, they were showing me how to play. And I played when I was I was like six, you know, and I was playing Atari. And then I would play Nintendo. But I played a lot of stuff on PC, like all the dooms and every derivative doom you could imagine. I played on I played it. I played everything. And then when I became a grown woman, I was like, I'm getting an Xbox because that's what grown ladies do. And so I got an Xbox. Now I have, you know, a couple of hobbies. And yeah, I mean, I do love to go to the range and shoot, but I also like to play video games and shoot monsters. I like first person shooter and horror games. So that's usually what what I do. But I'm really I think some of the stuff we've done and I like it. uh any kind of fighting anything but i've played all the call of duties i've played i've played borderlands up until it got so woke with the butt stallion thing and i was like i can't do the trans stuff anymore uh i played vermin tide i played dark tide i've played halo i've played oh my gosh uh elden ring uh skyrim i've oh my gosh what have i not played i don't even know I think that's probably the bigger question is what I haven't played. Anyway, so Darktide, which I think is one of the best games that's out there. It comes from Fat Shark. It is so not woke because I cannot stand wokery. I want an escape from all of that. It is so not woke. And they do not bend in need of that nonsense either. They're not doing it. And they're coming out with a new class. to play the Adeptus Arbites and I'm very excited about it because I've leveled up. I've got all my other characters like already like top. I'm trying to go for a Havoc 40. I don't think I'm gonna make it. It's really hard with the Havoc mission. Half of you people out there have no idea what I'm talking about, but it's fun. I like it because it is relaxing and I'm one of those people where I always have to be doing something And in order for me to get away from doing everyday things in life and to get a break, I have to have my brain entirely occupied by something else. And this is one of those things that does it. So if you play Dark Tide, I may be in your lobby one day. You can find me usually in ARC 5. I usually play like a high intensity ARC 5 level or I'm in Havoc. So that's where I'm not going to tell you what my name is. Although with my veteran, I may the veteran class, it may be very easily discernible. I don't talk, though, because I just don't, you know. Anyway, long story short, I'm so excited. The gameplay is fabulous. It is so well designed. And I have been waiting for this class and I've been waiting for some new maps, new missions, reworking of some things. And if you play and if you haven't played it, you're going to love it because it's so not woke. I can't reemphasize it enough. And it's just done really, really well. I think Fat Shark has done, you know, I mean, you have problems and hiccups, you know, here and there. But for the most part, they've done a really good job. And it's just it's so great. It's so great. They don't they're not going to try to, like, sex up the characters. It's not about being pretty. It's about really good gameplay. uh even good storylines but greater gameplay and it's just really really well done so that's what i'm going to be doing when this comes out so i may not even if i'm not on social media for a couple of days that's why because everybody's going to be playing as this class and i got to get out and level this thing up like asap so that's what i'm going to be doing so anyway just to let you know i've been trying to bully kane into playing this i'm like you know what you could be teaming up And we could be on a strike team, but you're playing a game where you kick soccer balls with cars.
SPEAKER 16 :
Can you tell them what you gave me the two choices I had?
SPEAKER 19 :
What do you mean?
SPEAKER 16 :
Could either be a B. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
I said, you know, here are your options. You could be a B and not play this game or you could not be a B and play this game. Those are your options.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's a tough one.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, is it tough? Is it really that difficult?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it's not really.
SPEAKER 19 :
But I don't, because I'm like, I'm a 40-something-year-old woman playing this. Is that weird?
SPEAKER 17 :
No.
SPEAKER 19 :
Like, that's why I don't talk in the headset at all. I'm like, I don't want anybody to be like, what is this? You're a 40-something-year-old woman playing Darktide.
SPEAKER 16 :
I play soccer with cars on Xbox.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, but you're a dude. It's different. is it it is though it's different if you're a guy like i fully expect a 50 year old dude to be playing dark tide why i would be i just think it's like less common if you're like a 40 30 20 or whatever if you're a younger woman i would expect it more but i think you got to be a certain type of younger woman you think to play it yeah i think you have to really enjoy the gameplay it's like one of those where you it's you either really enjoy it or you don't it's not like you know the nintendo wii where you have like all these little you know it's very different But that's one of the reasons why I don't talk in it. But I'm not going to tell anybody what my tag is, so don't ask. But I'm so excited. I'm so excited. But yeah, if you play the higher levels like Havoc 40, you pretty much have to go on Discord to find a team unless you want to chance it. And then if you're playing Havoc levels, other players can determine whether or not they want to play with you. And that can be ego crushing if someone's looking at your stats and they're like, no. So you want to be all dripped out and ready to rock. You want to have the gold. I try to make sure all my stuff is gold. Everything's gold. Everything is elite.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sounds like pick-me energy.
SPEAKER 19 :
It totally is! Because you're going to be like, wait a minute. And especially the type of class that you play. Oh my gosh, I didn't even tell you. This new class, you can actually get a robot dog.
SPEAKER 1 :
What?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes!
SPEAKER 16 :
In real life, I want a robot dog.
SPEAKER 19 :
Maybe. Lorraine says that she does not like console games. She gets motion sickness. Okay, so here's crazy. I get motion sickness, but not when I play these. Is it because hers may be like real motion sickness? I think my motion sickness comes because I'm not in control of the motion. Is that a thing?
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm not a doctor. I cannot say for sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
We should ask Dr. Carville if he's going to say syphilis.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a great point.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, anyway, so very excited. If you don't hear from me from a couple of days, that's why. That's why, because I'm going to be totally into that. Totally into that. So excited. My kids are like, you should do a gaming channel. And I'm like, nobody wants to watch that. What? I don't know. I am so ignorant when I play.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't know. I think people would.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think they would.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't think they would.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think they would.
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Welcome back to the program. Make sure you sign up, subscribe over at Chapter Inverse. That's the newsletter. A lot of fun stuff goes out there on the reg. And of course, YouTube and Facebook, like and subscribe to those things. We'll, if anything happens in terms of Iran, etc., we'll have analysis over the weekend, unless, you know, I'm in deep into dark tide, in which case it will just be on Facebook. I'll just be like with one hand, my controller with the other. But we'll we'll have that covered, you know, because apparently death to America doesn't really mean anything anymore. According to MSNBC and the guy who wears giant cowboy hat.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's respectful when Iran does it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, it's respectful. Death to America with respect. Respectfully, death to America. Much respect. I mean, that's not how that works, right? That's. Really, they don't mean with respect. It's like, I'm going to punch you in the face, respectfully. I'm going to kick you in the jimmies, respectfully. No, that's usually not what respect indicates. But what do I know? Right. We're just, you know, mean old great state Americans.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 19 :
Good heavens. All right. Today in stupidity before I take up all your time.
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Well, it's it's weird to call this person a radical Democrat because calling someone a Democrat already implies that they're radical. But this is radical Democrat Representative Maxwell Frost. Now, this is cut nine one. This is him. He's comparing ICE agents. Get this. He's comparing the actions of ICE to the same as human trafficking. This is more absurdity from the left. Listen to this.
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We have ICE federal agents pulling up, terrorizing our communities, hopping out of unmarked vans, stealing and, yes, kidnapping people, not giving them their day in court, and, yes, human trafficking them to other nations, other countries around the entire world.
SPEAKER 16 :
Imagine living your entire life based on emotions that you make up yourself.
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This episode of Washington Watch uncovers the legal struggles of Calvary Chapel against COVID-19 restrictions with Robert Tyler, and examines the U.S. Supreme Court's pivotal decision on gender procedures with David Claussen. Explore the ways in which legal and moral frameworks intertwine in the fight for religious freedom and the protection of minors.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
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Well, good afternoon. Welcome to this Friday edition of Washington Watch. Hope you've had a fantastic week and getting ready for a wonderful weekend. I'm Jody Heiss, a senior fellow here at the Family Research Council. Glad to have you joining us today. We've got a lot to bring your way. Let me give you some of the highlights. First of all, Israel and Iran continue to exchange strikes as the world awaits President Trump's highly anticipated decision on whether or not the U.S. will get involved directly in this conflict. But the U.S. made clear today that whatever that decision might be, America supports Israel's fight against Iran.
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Iran is the principal source of instability and terror in the Middle East. While the United States was not involved in Israel's strikes, let there be no doubt that the United States continues to stand with Israel and supports its actions against Iran's nuclear ambitions.
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Well, that was U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Dorothy Shea during the U.N. Security Council's emergency meeting today. And we'll discuss the latest on the war when I'm joined a little bit later in the program by Ruthie Bloom from the Jewish News Syndicate. And I'll also get the perspective from Capitol Hill when I'm joined here in just a moment by Texas Congressman Randy Weber. And meanwhile, right here in the US, Democrats continue to villainize agents of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, also known as ICE. But they're accusing them of terrorizing Americans and even human trafficking. Now, all of this is coming from those who did nothing to stop real human trafficking that was taking place during the Biden administration. And I'll be discussing all of this with Congressman Weber as well. And speaking of the Biden administration, do you remember? All right, I'm sure this is an easy question. Do you remember how they pushed for mandates during the COVID pandemic? Perhaps probably a better way of saying it is, how could any of us ever forget how they pushed mandates during COVID? Well, those days might be long gone, but there's still one church fighting to overturn a $1.2 million fine that was imposed on them for holding worship services during the COVID lockdowns. And we'll get the latest on that important case as the program unfolds. And then to close out the program and to close out the week, I'll be joined by David Claussen for our weekly Biblical Worldview segment to discuss some of the headlines from this week, including the Supreme Court ruling that upheld Tennessee's law prohibiting experimental gender procedures on minors. That was a big one. So as always, we've got a lot to bring your way today. You don't want to miss any of it. But if in case you do, you can always go back and get it and as well as other archive programs and lots of information at our website, TonyPerkins.com. So be sure to check that out. All right, let's jump into our first item for the day. There's a lot of attention right now on Israel and their fight against terrorists who threaten their safety and their security. The Trump administration continues to work hard to keep Americans safe and secure here at home while at the same time trying to deal with what's happening in Israel and abroad. But this week, right here at home, the U.S. Border Patrol revealed that it has unearthed an extensive smuggling tunnel that was spanning from Tijuana all the way to the San Diego area. An acting chief patrol agent of the San Diego sector, Jeffrey Stoniker, says that the move underground is not surprising for these foreign terrorist organizations. There's that word again, terrorists, be it in the Middle East, or perhaps right here at home. So meanwhile, Democrats are labeling these ICE agents as the ones who are terrorizing Americans. It's amazing. You would think that they didn't learn a thing from the fallout over the defund police movement. But nonetheless, here to discuss this and more is Congressman Randy Weber. He serves on the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and represents the 14th Congressional District of Texas. Congressman Weber, my friend, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to see you.
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Well, thank you, Jody. Glad to be here. Glad you all keep things in perspective. We sure appreciate Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thank you so much. All right, let's go. I know you and I both served a lot. This has been one of your hot buttons for a long time with your own home state of Texas. But this discovery of the smuggling tunnel, especially given the distance and how sophisticated it seems to be, what are your thoughts about this so far?
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Well, it actually kind of coincides with some stuff from the Israel events that are going on, Jody. You know, I was there in 2013 with AIPAC when I first got elected, and Israel had uncovered tunnels from Egypt all the way into the Gaza Strip. And of course, they were funneling weapons, they were funneling concrete so they could make barriers and all that kind of stuff. Not food for the people in Gaza Strip. They were using tunnels as simply a terroristic conduit, if you want to call that, use that name. And so it's no surprise that they're using it there on the southwest corner of our country because that's what they're doing. They're smuggling drugs. They're smuggling fentanyl. They're smuggling human trafficking and I'm sure weapons. And so the fact that it comes into California is no surprise to me, especially when you watch, I call him Governor Gruesome, because his policies are just that. When he is wanting to sue President Trump for trying to protect Californians, I mean, you can't make this stuff up. I wouldn't be surprised, Jody, if there's not more tunnels that's going to be uncovered.
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Yeah, I agree with you. And it's interesting you brought that up, the similarity between the tunnels here and those that we're seeing going into Israel and so forth. That was the first thing that came to my mind when this was unearthed and they discovered it and the sophisticated nature of it and the capacity to drive and to do all sorts of things immediately. Because like you, I've been to Israel and it's subliminal. So, so similar. You just wonder if there are some dots that are being connected there. So how does this, Congressman Weber, this discovery of the tunnel, how in your mind does this support the overall effort of President Trump and Republicans to squash illegal immigration? I mean, they found the tunnel now. They're going to deal with it. This is part of a big agenda promise. Is that correct?
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It absolutely is, and President Trump's intent, as I understand, on building the wall. Of course, as you know, Jody, the United States and Mexico share about a 2,000-mile border, give or take. And Texas has, I think it's 1,967 miles, whatever it is. Texas has almost 1,200 miles of that border, so right around the two-thirds range. So border, for us, is extremely important. I would not be surprised that we would find tunnels coming from Mexico into Texas. Now, will they be of that magnitude? I don't know. California is a lot more forgiving when you watch people trying to riot against a great... Custom Border Patrol, when you watch people just – when you watch elected officials trying to tell federal officials that you cannot protect the federal border, basically, things are way out of whack. But I think President Trump, as you know, from all the – Statistics that are coming back, hardly any people are being released. CBP is releasing hardly zero people here in the last month or so. And so it's working. President Trump is on the right track, and he's going to stand through for his promise.
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Yeah, and it's interesting that you brought up the attacks and so forth that we are watching against our own federal personnel. I'm sure you probably saw that the DHS data is showing that ICE agents are facing a some 500% increase in assault attempts while they're trying to arrest illegal aliens who are living here in the U.S. What does that mean? Tell us, in your opinion, about our fight to secure the U.S. from foreign threats. Who knows? We may already be here. But when we are seeing this type of assaults against the increase against our ICE agents, what do you think?
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Well, it says to me socialism, communism, because they want the federal government to do everything for everybody all the time, irrespective of costs, like Governor Grusome, as I call him, because they want to protect everybody who's coming into the country illegally. You've heard this. I've heard this. We believe the Democratic Party wants to get enough illegal voters, if you will, so that they can take over the electoral college. They can win elections. They can take over. But for us to simply, for Americans, I'm not talking about our greatest customer patrol or police officers, but for Americans to simply ignore criminals coming across the border, they've lost their mind. They expect the federal government to step back And let them bring in as many thugs as they can, along with drugs, along with, you know, sex trading and all those things. People have lost their minds. We're not an open border country, not supposed to be. This is how it starts with socialism and communism, if you read your history.
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Yeah, and you know what is so disturbing to me, among other things, there's so much, but one of the things that just is so disturbing is how Democrats continue to support these protests. They continue to support these riots that are impeding our ICE agents. Why in the world do they continue to support that despite all the data? It just seems to me that this is just against American principles.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, it's not hard for me, Jody, when you think about it. They want to win the next election. They want to get back in power at any cost, even if it means bringing illegals, drug trafficking, that means young girls in sex trade, and lots of fentanyl. Even if it means all of those things harmed, or you're seeing more and more thugs in Colorado now, and some of these apartment complexes in Denver. You're seeing all of this happen simply because they can demonize Donald Trump, They can demonize the Republican Party. They can try to gain the sympathy of the American people. I think American people are fed up, too smart for it. But that doesn't stop the Democrats from trying to do that just so they can get back in power. To do what? Let more illegals in? I don't think so. Not on our watch.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you know, it's a great point you bring up. In fact, I just want to, if we can get clip two, I want to bring this up. This is Congressman Maxwell Frost on Stephen Colbert. And he talked about demonizing. Let's play this clip and get your reaction to it. Clip two, please.
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We have ICE federal agents pulling up, terrorizing our communities, hopping out of unmarked vans, stealing and, yes, kidnapping people, not giving them their day in court, and, yes, human trafficking them to other nations, other countries around the entire world.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. What do you make of those comments?
SPEAKER 21 :
You cannot make this stuff up. He's trying to turn it over onto us as if we are the villains, as if we are the human traffickers. He's using every single stunt he can from the villainous, I would call them communists, from Hitler's regime when it was in power. He's trying to make it sound like it's our fault. It's our fault. And the truth of the matter is they're turning a blind eye, although not so blind, because as I said, I think they're actually collaborating with everybody, each other, everybody they can to make sure they win the midterms coming up. I hope people are waking up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I do, too. Listen, we've only less than a minute left. Your thoughts about the possibility of the U.S. becoming more involved in the Israel-Iran conflict? I know there's not all Republicans are on the same page. Real quickly, your thoughts.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, I think we should. You know, Zechariah 2.8 says that Israel is the apple of God's eye. And so we make sure that nobody destroys Israel. Nobody hurts Israel. You got to love our brothers and sisters in Israel. And you know this, Jody. Israel is the most, he's the country that has the most different nationalities. They're very, very fair to everybody that comes. Iran has been trying to destroy them forever. It's high time we said, look, no nuclear weapon. This is the deadline.
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Thank you so much, U.S. Congressman Randy Weber of Texas. Always great to have you on the program with us. Thanks for your insight and your input. All right, friends, coming up next. You're welcome. Coming up next, we're going to go directly to discuss Iran and Israel with Ruthie Bloom. She's in the know, and she'll be talking to us right after this break.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I am Jody Heiss, your Friday host, and we're thrilled to have you with us today. All right, earlier this morning, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel will strike all of Iran's nuclear facilities, including the fortified Fordow facility. He also implied that the Israeli military has all the capability they need to strike these facilities without... the U.S. joining the fight. So what does this mean for the conflict at large, and what other developments perhaps have taken place since yesterday? Well, here to discuss the latest is Ruthie Bloom. She's a columnist and senior contributing editor at the Jewish News Syndicate. She's also a former advisor at the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Ruthie, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to have you. Great to be back. Thank you, Jody. Well, listen, what do you make of Benjamin Netanyahu's comments regarding Israel's plan to strike all of Iran's nuclear facilities, including the Fort O facility?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I have no inside knowledge of Israel's military capabilities. However, I will remind you of something that Netanyahu said to the Biden administration at some point after the October 7th Hamas massacre when Secretary of State Blinken was issuing warnings about withholding weapons. And Netanyahu said, look, we want those weapons that we purchased, but if we have to, we will fight with our fingernails. And the reason I'm bringing that up is that today we have the most friendly president in the White House. I mean, we had him prior in his first term, the most pro-Israel president ever. And so Netanyahu doesn't need to say something like that. If you don't help us, we'll fight with our fingernails. But what he is, the message he's conveying is you do what's in America's interest and we do what's in Israel's interest. And if you can't for some reason or are not interested in joining this fight, Israel still has to do it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's a great point. And, you know, I guess you may not be able to answer this. I don't know. But one of the reasons why I ask that question is we have all heard now in recent days that the Fort O facility is really out of reach for any weapon except the American bunker busters. And I don't know, perhaps Israel has something now that is able to go down there or there may be other options. But you bring up a good point that either way, the relationship now is vastly different between this president and the previous president. Is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER 14 :
Completely. I mean, it's night and day. OK, because President Trump is totally pro-Israel. He has shown nothing but sympathy and friendship. He understands that the alliance is, of course, Israel needs the United States. He understands the United States also needs Israel. And yes, it's true. These are two separate countries. with separate interests that often align. And in this case, I believe they do align because the Islamic Republic of Iran is a threat to the whole world. It's certainly a direct threat to Israel, but also to America. After all, the Ayatollahs have been saying that America is the great Satan and Israel is only the small Satan. It's just that Israel happens to be much closer geographically and in the line of fire. And I would like to remind everybody that Israel, it's true that Israel launched this war a week ago, but it was a preemptive defensive war.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And speaking of that, we're seeing it now virtually every night, exchange strikes between the two countries. And it happened again last night. Can you tell us about what took place?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, there were a lot of strikes last night, but in the meantime, Iran is firing very heavy ballistic missiles into Israel. As a matter of fact, my kids keep having to run to and spend the night in bomb shelters. In fact, just a few hours ago, there were a few missiles that actually hit that weren't intercepted. and hit a building in Haifa that we saw yesterday that a missile hit the Soroka hospital in Be'er Sheva because Iran is targeting civilians while Israel is going after military targets. Now, what we know is that Israel has eliminated at least 50 percent of Iran's missile launchers. And that's very important because without a launcher, a missile isn't worth anything. And we know that now, whether or not Israel has the capability to bomb Fordo from the air and has the right bunker busters, I certainly couldn't say. But what Israel does have is incredible technology and soldiers willing to go in on the ground. Again, Israel is not asking for American troops on the ground. I know that there are some certainly Democrats, but there are also many Republicans who fear that Israel is trying to drag America into a war. It is nothing like Iraq and even the Iraq war, Israel didn't drag America into that war. In fact, Israel then wanted to attack Iran and not Iraq. So I would just like to refute some of these misconceptions. Now, what is true is that Israel has many kinds of, I would say, tricks up its sleeve, if I could put it that way. And who knew that this strike was going to happen in this way and that so successfully? I mean, you know, when President Trump a few days ago said, we have control of the airspace over Iran, I think Israelis were kind of smiling because they said, if President Trump says we have he means to enter the war, because actually it's Israel that seems to have control over the airspace. And in October, Israel took out Iran's air defenses. That is what is enabling it to conduct these strikes without its planes being shot down.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. We've got less than a minute. So real quickly, it seems that President Trump is still being hopeful of achieving some sort of negotiations with Iran. Do you think that's possible?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I never believe it's possible to negotiate with jihadists at all. But what's brilliant about what President Trump said is he said unconditional surrender. I mean, basically what Trump, I think, is saying, of course, we would prefer a diplomatic solution. But the diplomatic solution he prefers is a white flag from the enemy. And that's a crucial distinction between what the U.N. is saying and what Trump is saying.
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Ruthie Bloom, columnist and contributing editor at JNS. Thank you so much for joining us. As always, stay safe and we appreciate your insight. All right, friends, coming up, a huge religious freedom case out of California. We'll break down all the details in just a moment. Stay tuned. We'll be back.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to have you today. I'm your Friday host, Jody Heiss, and we welcome you aboard. All right. If you're a longtime viewer or listener to Washington Watch, you may recall our coverage of a local church in San Jose, California. They faced tremendous persecution while they were trying to weather literally their state, as well as local governments' onerous COVID-19 lockdown policies. We were seeing this type of thing all across the country, but it seemed to zero in on Calvary Chapel, San Jose. In fact, they won a myriad. of appeal cases during that period of time. But now the church has issued a new petition to overturn a heavy fine that was imposed on them during those lockdowns. And here to discuss this case is Robert Tyler. He's the president and chief counsel of Advocates for Faith and Freedom. And he currently represents Calvary Chapel's senior pastor, Mike McClure. Bob, welcome to Washington Watch. Great to have you joining us.
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Great to be with you again. Thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so let's, if you would, break down for us the initial details of this case regarding Calvary Chapel. Why was this church targeted? What was the deal here?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I'm glad you asked that question because that really is the crux of the scenario we sit in today. Look, we're in California. And one of the reasons why we exist as Advocates for Faith and Freedom and we're focused here in California to a large degree is because I've been saying this for 25 years that what comes out of California gets exported to the rest of the country. And COVID was no different. It's important to know when and where did the COVID lockdowns in the United States begin. They began in Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley is Santa Clara County, California. Santa Clara County is the one who issued close to $4 million in fines to Calvary Chapel San Jose. Our client, Pastor Mike McClure, who is just – he and his church just – stuck it out with tenacity and courage. And so in Santa Clara County, when you look back and see, they are the ones who started the lockdowns before California started the lockdowns, before any other county or state started the lockdowns, before President Trump issued lockdowns nationwide. It started with a gentleman named, an attorney named James Williams, who it appears went to his medical officer and said, we need to shut everything down. A lawyer making that kind of a decision. And I don't have any belief that it was actually the medical director for the county who made the decision. It was him, in my view. And so he got a lawyer who was there's a foundation called the George and Daisy Soros Foundation. And if you recognize that name, my understanding is he's George Soros's brother. Well, apparently they funded about ninety thousand dollars to Mr. James William to go to law school. in the first place. And then he gets into the county. And next thing you know, we have these lockdowns after he rises in the ranks and becomes the senior counsel for the county council's office in Santa Clara County. There's a lot behind this. And you go back and you take a look at who benefited the most out of COVID-19 from a financial perspective. I believe it was Silicon Valley. Probably not even the pharmaceuticals, but I don't know. Between the pharmaceutical industry and Silicon Valley, consider all of the technology, Netflix, etc., etc.
SPEAKER 03 :
So let me ask you this. Yeah, let me ask you this because we've only got a couple of minutes here. But now there's another petition. The church is trying to get back horrendous fines that were put against him. But this case as a whole, why is it so important not only to Calvary Chapel but across the whole, as you said, what starts in California tends to spread across the country? So do you think the church is going to get their money back? And why is this such an important case?
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Well, the church hasn't paid any money to the county at this point in time. This is important because how in the world can it be lawful that a church who stands up on their constitutional principles and is right constitutionally and legally can be fined $1.2 million? Now, we did get it knocked down. I mean, it's about 25% of what they were originally trying to get. At this point in time, the fines are about a face mask. Can you force a church, a pastor to require that people who come into church wear a face mask when they allow all sorts of other exemptions to the rule, allow people who are working in industry, government contractors who can decide, well, I'm not going to wear a face mask because it might inhibit my work. Well, Pastor Mike McClure sincerely looks at this and says, for me to stand there behind a pulpit and to preach with a mask on or to go pray with someone who's dying of cancer and not be willing to take my mask off so they can see my face and my emotions, that inhibits my sincere prayer. a responsibility as a pastor to minister to people. When we were told in California that you couldn't touch someone, you had to stay six feet apart. It was just one. You couldn't do baptisms. You couldn't give communion. This is a case that really stands, I believe, in the long run for how far the courts are going to permit a local government in restricting religious worship.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. I want to thank you so much, Robert Tyler, President and Chief Counsel at Advocates for Faith and Freedom, for standing in the gap, not only for Calvary Chapel, but for all of us across the country for religious freedoms. Bob Tyler, thank you so much. God bless you. We'll be keeping a pulse on this. All right, friends, coming up, FRC's David Clawson will join me for our biblical perspective on the news that took place this week. So stay tuned to hear his thoughts. We'll be back right after this break.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your Friday host Jody Heiss. Glad to have you on board with us. All right, before I get to my final guest, I want to encourage you to join believers across the country for Lift Up Life. That's a national day of prayer and fasting for the unborn. And on Tuesday next week, June the 24th, at 10 a.m. Eastern Time, You can tune in to a special prayer event. It will be featuring pastors and pro-life leaders as we lift up this urgent need before the Lord. And you can certainly participate in that if you have our Stand Firm app, which we encourage you to get. Or you can also go to LiftUpLifeDay.com. That's one word, LiftUpLifeDay.com. And so to learn more, you can go there, LiftUpLifeDay.com. Or you can simply text the word PRAY. to 677-42. But whatever we do, let's continue praying for this important issue. And I will talk a little bit more of that here with my next guest. We've got a lot to discuss with David Claussen, our weekly Biblical Worldview segment leader. He'll be joining me. But here are some of the things that I want to talk with him about. Democrats are still reeling, really, From a major decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, it's a landmark decision, and the vote was 63, took place earlier this week, but they had upheld Tennessee's law prohibiting experimental gender procedures on minors. This is a huge case. And I don't know, maybe to some extent, some of the shock is now beginning to wear off some of the Democrats, but they're now plotting a path forward into how to push their destructive message in the midst of a world that where, at least here in the United States, Tennessee and at least 20 other states can now legally protect children from the permanent harms of so-called gender transition procedures. Huge, huge, significant decision this was. And I want to start with that topic and we'll move from there. Joining me now, Family Research Council's Director at the Center for Biblical Worldview, David Claussen. He's also the author of the book, Life After Roe, Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today. David, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always good to have you on Friday, my friend.
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Hey, great to be with you as well, Jody. Thanks for having me.
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Well, listen, I do want to get to some of the life issues as we go down through some of this, but the Supreme Court, this decision protecting minors in Tennessee and beyond, I think this is huge. I mean, in my mind, Tennessee was just trying to protect minors from puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones and all sorts of stuff. Break this down for us, David. Why was this such a significant victory, both From a legal perspective but also morally, why is this such a big decision?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Jody, unbelievable precedent-setting decision, one that I am profoundly grateful, and I think Christians, millions of Christians all over this country ought to be profoundly grateful for this as well. This is the Scrimetti case. Interesting, I actually got to meet the Attorney General last week at the Southern Baptist Convention, Attorney General Jonathan Scrimetti, incredibly gracious, kind, loving man. And the way you described this case, Jody, is exactly how the Attorney General himself would. Tennessee, their law that was originally passed in 2023, known as SB1, was designed to protect minor children. from these medical interventions. These are children who are struggling with gender dysphoria, and it would protect them from getting things like puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and even physical irreversible surgeries. And what happened just a couple of days ago at the Supreme Court was a 6-3 decision. Chief Justice John Roberts wrote it. And what's incredible about this is he from just a legal perspective, he rejected the claim that Tennessee's law constituted sex-based or transgender-based discrimination and simply said that this law was a neutral regulation based on age and medical context. He said that the law's rationale was plausible, that states can decide how to regulate these novel and uncertain medical treatments for minors. And what's Also really helpful, sometimes I just love doing this when I look at a Supreme Court ruling, is to read the concurrences. Jody, this tells you where the rest of the court is. Justice Barrett, Alito, and Thomas wrote significant concurrences that help us see exactly where the court is on this issue. Just for the sake of time, let me just read one line from Justice Thomas' concurrence. that I think is just so, it's a breath of fresh air. I've lived here, you know, in DC for six years and this is one of the neatest things I've read in an opinion. Justice Clarence Thomas said this, in politically contentious debates over matters shrouded in scientific uncertainty, courts should not assume that self-described experts are correct. They have built their medical determination on conceitedly weak evidence and they have serendipitously compromised their medical recommendations to achieve political ends. Talk about some moral clarity from Justice Thomas. So again, I think this is a victory for common sense. It's a victory for the created order. And what this means practically, Jody, is that the 27 states that have similar laws on the books can now enforce those. Big win for children.
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Wow, that really is. And you brought up the science. It seems to me, and I say this largely because of what we're seeing in Europe and other places in the world, but increasing evidence of harm from these so-called gender-affirming care procedures, especially as it relates to vulnerable children. So how should Christians here in America understand How should we think about the role of government in protecting children from these type of procedures?
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Yeah, Jody, I think we need to be clear what we're talking about here. You know, the left will actually use, it's such a William language, gender affirming care. That's the language you'll see on newspapers and websites that are kind of commenting on this gender affirming care. Let's be clear what these medical interventions are. Again, cross-sex hormones, puberty blockers, and physical surgeries, these cause permanent harm. For example, many of these things will cause permanent sterilization. They will cause a loss of bone density. The emotional trauma that many of these children go through is also very, very real. And so I think as Christians, we need to be the people who are bold, who are full of just clear eyed and courageous on this. In the name of gender affirming care, what we've actually seen is harmful ideologies pushed on minor people. children. Again, this is not about hatred, as the left is going to argue. This is about safeguarding the most innocent and vulnerable that we have amongst us, which are our children. And of course, as Christians, we believe that everyone is made in God's image, has value and dignity, and the way God created you is exactly how you were supposed to be created.
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And yet, just as you said, the critics on the other side are going to look to you and me and others like us and say that we are hateful, that we are opposed to science when, in reality, science... Justifies everything we're talking about right now. But my question is, how can Christians respond to these critics clearly, compassionately, full of grace and truth and protecting children, all of that kind of wrapped up at the same time?
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Biology is not bigotry. And I think as Christians, we need to be really, really clear. Ephesians 4.15 is kind of my go-to verse for my political theology and for how I engage in politics. That's where Paul talks about the importance of truth and love. That's how we're to engage. And again, We just need to be the people that are really, really clear. Protecting children from harmful medical interventions is actually not hateful. It is loving. We need to also be the people that look and understand those who suffer from gender dysphoria, which is acute. Those who deal with this, adults and children, talk about how disorienting it can be. But we need to be clear-eyed. Eighty-five plus percent of minor children who experience some confusion about their gender at a young age, they grow out of it. And so, again, we... We are the people that believe in real medicine and real science. And because a minor child is confused, we're not going to then rush to affirm that confusion by altering their body, by pumping them full of hormones. We want to be those full of compassion who can lead them out of that confusion, not come along and affirm that confusion. Again, truth and love, Jody. But we need to, again, say biology is not bigotry.
SPEAKER 03 :
Great statement there. All right, before I move to another topic, I introduced coming into this segment talking about the Lift Up Life Day prayer and fasting. This battle of life that continues, and you've got your book that I, of course, want to continue to plug, Life After Row, Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today. David, how important is it that we stay engaged on this fight for life, and particularly as we're coming into next week with a national day set aside for prayer and fasting?
SPEAKER 07 :
Jody, it's of crucial importance. This is an issue that is on the very heart of God. I did an interview earlier today. We were talking about a host of issues and the life issue came up. And I just made the point, you know, there are issues that those of us who go to church, we can agree to disagree on. There are different strategies and ways. issues that we can look at and come out on different sides. Life's not one of them. The issue of abortion is really clearly addressed in Scripture. We have God's revealed truth. We have Psalm 139, verses 13 through 16, Luke chapter 1, verse 39 through 45. There is a thus saith the Lord. God is really, really clear on this. And if God's clear, we ought to be clear too. And I think, yeah, next week we should celebrate God's gracious gift and kindness and mercy to us. and the overturning of Roe v. Wade that had reigned for 49 years and had coarsened the moral conscience of this nation. But there's so much more work to be done. Think about chemical abortion and other issues that we're still on the front lines fighting. So I think next week on the 24th, we ought to be those who are grateful to the Lord. How ungrateful it would be to not thank Him for this good gift. But we know that there's so much more work to still be done.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And again, I just encourage people, you want more info on that, text the word PRAY to 67742. All right, David, if I can switch gears on you now, let's jump overseas. There's so much tension between Israel and Iran. All of the fighting is escalating significantly. And David, You've got some great points on the principles, particularly biblical Christian principles, as it relates to war, just war theory. Can you kind of elaborate some on that? What is a righteous response, if we can put it that way, that one might want to look at this type of conflict that's taking place in Israel?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the framework that Christians have honestly used for centuries, going back to Augustine, is called just war theory. This helps us to evaluate when a conflict, it's just to enter a conflict and then actually the rules of engagement as well. You know, war is always tragic, Jody, and I think we need to start there. War is always tragic. But a couple of kind of criteria that Christians have used would be just cause. So self-defense would be an example of a cause. A war can be just if it's waged by a legitimate authority, if there's right intention and if there's proportionality. And looking at the situation with Israel, I think obviously Israel is a legitimate authority as a nation state. And they do have the right and responsibility to protect their people. And since 1979, Iran has been calling for their destruction. And intelligence experts that I've watched this past week, week and a half, have said Iran was really, really close to getting the uranium enrichment that they needed for a nuclear weapon. And Israel acted on that intelligence that it's an existential threat if Iran actually has the capability of delivering a nuclear weapon. And so I think the principles of just war, at least for the sake of Israel, make it really clear that they have to protect their people. They have just cause. And so, again, I think Christians should be praying for the Israeli people, for the prime minister. And we need to also be praying for our president over these next two years, excuse me, over the next two weeks. as President Trump also weighs potential American involvement.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I agree. And let's also pray for the people of Iran. Yesterday, we had Dr. Harmoz Shariat on with us, who heads up the Iran Alive Ministries. And there's a lot of people in Iran who are not at all associated with the tyrannical government there that we need to be in prayer for as well. All All right. Real quickly, our time is slipping away from us, David. But while we're overseas, some more life news coming out of the UK is they basically have legalized abortion up until birth. They voted on that. How should Christians be praying and responding to that? And what does this say about this issue in the West here?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Jody, this is a morally catastrophic and heartbreaking decision. Essentially, over there in England, they have a law on the books going back to 1861 that protects life. Now, subsequent legislation has allowed abortion really pretty late into a pregnancy, up to 24 weeks. And the decision they've made now is to simply decriminalize it. So that law is still on the books, but it's no longer criminalized. And Jody, again, this is just... representative of the moral and spiritual decline of Europe at large, but specifically England. I think it's clear to say that England is running on the final fumes of their Christian heritage. All I can say, Jody, is when a society begins to celebrate what God calls evil, whether that's abortion, gender ideology, you can kind of go down the list. You go on a Romans 1 trajectory, exchanging truth for a lie. So, Christians just need to speak clearly to this in England. We need to preach the truth. We need to testify to God's truth, and we need to remain faithful, but we need to be praying for our brothers and sisters overseas because this is morally catastrophic what's happening.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think it's a clarion call for the church here in the United States and around the world to step up to the plate with biblical truth and to be a prophetic voice of truth in the midst of darkness that is sweeping all around us. David Claussen, Director of the Center for Biblical Worldview here at FRC. Always great to have you on Fridays. Thank you so much. Hope you have a great weekend. Thank you. And friends, that wraps it up. That wraps up our week. Hope you have a great weekend. We'll see you next week right here on Washington Watch.
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