
Join Angie Austin and Jim Stovall as they explore the nuances of traveling alone, offering insights into the unique charms of small-town America. Angie shares her recent trip to Nashville, highlighting her unexpected discovery of being a social traveler who thrives in the presence of others. The episode also delves into the Southern hospitality she encountered and how it renewed her appreciation for community connections.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with The Good News, and we are talking about his article titled, Pay Attention. Hey there, Jim.
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Hey, it's great to talk with you.
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I just got back from Nashville, so it was, you know, I found out, I discovered something about myself, and I'm a little bit disappointed. But I think I can power through. So I am not I'm not a lone wolf. I'm not a good alone traveler. And I thought, oh, you know, I've got to see if I could do it. I didn't think I would be. And I had to drop my daughter off at her Christian college and. she has people like a team that kind of helps the kids that have ADHD or other learning issues, challenges. And wow, I mean, I was just so, the South, as you know, the people are just a different type of person. They're just so kind. And just as a general rule, there's a warmth. You're in the Bible belt. There's people who maybe have a similar faith to you. I don't Everyone at the school, because it's a Christian school. And I was just blown away at what they offer her. And one of the women is raising three additional kids. She already raised four boys and now she's raising three more. And we just really took to the boys. So in the small town, you know, I've been messaging her and I met her once and I said, hey. I have something for the boys. Would you mind giving me your address? And I said to her, I would never ask this in a big city. Right. And she just gave me her address. I went over and she had a stepson visiting and another student's mom visiting and me visiting and hope visiting. And we had some fun gifts for the boys that she's raising there. They're pretty little anyway. Yeah. That's just a, it's a total to me, Southern or small town vibe where you would be like already kind of friends, you know? Yeah.
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Yeah. I, I, remember one of my first trips to new york i was really young and having grown up here in oklahoma i'm just you know i'm on the street and you know we come up to a place and there's a we're waiting to cross and to crosswalk and all these people are staying there so i just turned to a guy hey how are you doing today and what do you think of this weather and you know you're gonna you ever go to the yankees games and i'm talking to different people and there was a cop out there uh you know, directing traffic. And he, you know, we get across and we're waiting to cross the other way. And he comes over to me and said, who are you? And I said, I am a visitor, Jim Stovall. Why are you talking to people? Well, I just said, good morning, how are you? And then he said, that'll get you in trouble here. And I said, really? I mean, you know, and I just had never understood how weird it was
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to uh you know i just thought everybody would talk to people you know so uh yeah it's a wonderful thing yeah my mom too she's that way when she would come to los angeles i'm like mom you can't just talk to everybody in line or like we're in venice beach like some of the people aren't safe you can't just be chit-chatting with everybody or tell a gang member you really like his sweatshirt she's like well i just you know like to chit-chat with people yeah and uh
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And, yeah, you get away with it. So, no, it's fabulous. And, you know, it's wonderful to be somewhere where, you know, you just feel like everybody you fit in.
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Yeah, and she found her people. I'll tell you that much. She fit right in with the team. She did a volleyball camp where she was teaching younger, you know, students throughout the week. And then I went off on my own back to Nashville, and I did plan things, and that was fun. Like I didn't mind going on tours by myself. I was on like a plantation tour where – I learned the life of enslaved people on a big plantation in Nashville called Bell Mead where they raised a lot of racehorses. Are you familiar with that one? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. They had a very highly regarded man who worked there who had been enslaved and then was – free and offered the opportunity to leave, but he was in such a high, he was, I mean, president shook his hand when people came to the plantation, they wanted to meet him because he knew all about the bloodlines and the horses and which horse to buy and which ones, you know, was worth, you know, worth their salt. And so he was so highly respected and he was a pastor and had his own home and was paid well, the highest paid of the people who had formerly been slaves and But anyway, he didn't want to leave. He was all settled in. But a lot of people, the majority of them did leave when they had the choice to seek their freedom. So we kind of got to go through the different types of jobs and what went on. And it was interesting. And I also went on like a food and history tour. You could drink too, but I'm not much of a drinker. So I got extra desserts, which I thought was a very good tradeoff. But yeah. That was a really cool tour to go to like the best barbecue place, which was amazing and learn the story of hot Nashville chicken and where it started, you know, and then who took credit for it, you know, because someone kind of came into one of the African-American neighborhoods, got kind of the recipe of how it's done. And then their hot chicken place became famous. You can imagine that. and uh yeah so but but in general and then like going to the hotel by yourself that's just and i know you travel with people because you get assistance when you're traveling i mean somebody that helps you you know navigate or whatever and um yeah it just wasn't my thing to travel alone i like to laugh and goof off with people you know i i for years as a as a arena speaker i've traveled and i go with one of my assistants and uh
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And I enjoy it. And like you, I've made a commitment years ago, we will at least do one or two things in every town that are specialties of that town. I love that. And the food, too. Oh, yeah. But I have told my colleagues that travel by themselves. Hey, you know, you ought to take somebody. You ought to get an assistant. There's so much stuff going on. And I got to tell you, if I got my sight back today, I would still travel the way I do. It's just a wonderful way to share it with people. And, you know, I even have different... women I travel with, young ladies. And, you know, if I'm going to go to an art museum, I will take Kelly. Or if I'm going to do a music thing, I'll take her. If it's a business thing or we're going to go look at some kind of industry thing, I'll take Rebecca. You know, if it's a cultural thing, you know, we're going to a bar or a club or whatever, I take Janice. And it's just, you know, just because that's their thing. You know, different people are different things. So it's kind of fun.
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I love that. I know that there are the lone wolf types that do enjoy that alone travel, and I just thought it's the first time I've ever done it at my age with my kids pretty much grown. I have heard, though, one of my girlfriends who travels a lot alone, her husband doesn't want to travel anymore. And she goes all over the world. She says that she's got some really great tour groups where you don't feel like you're alone. And then maybe by the time you're ready to go to bed, you're fine to have the peace and quiet by then because the whole day is stocked full of activities. Now, that'll be my next experiment. I'll try that because that's not really quite alone per se.
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Well, some of our great friends, several of them, are people that Crystal met when she was in Europe by herself. And she would go on a tour, and then she would connect with different people or whatever. And, you know, they become friends of ours. They come here and visit us and different people. And, you know, so she just makes friends instantaneously. And, you know, it's a really wonderful thing.
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Well, again, it's that Southern blessing, you know, too, where, you know, in the South, people do more readily or more easily make friends. So I could see that she would do that. All right. Pay attention is your article this week. So what are we paying attention to?
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Well, we're paying attention to the thing right in front of us. We're focusing. We're staying. You know, so many bad things happen when we don't watch what we're doing. And if you don't pay attention, you'll pay the price. Ralph Waldo Emerson said – It matters little what's behind you or what's ahead of you. It matters what's inside of you, what you're doing right now. And when we perform at our best, Angie, we... are in the moment. Like when you are on live TV, as you well know, man, you're not thinking about, now I've got to pick up my dry cleaning and I've got to do this. You're counting down. You are totally focused. And people that have been involved in martial arts and trained, if you're going to break a board, it just comes down to you totally focus that moment at that one spot and funnel all your energy there. Well, that's the way to do anything successfully. And And too often we spend all our time worrying about the dumb thing we did in the past or we're worried about something that may or may not even happen in the future. Meanwhile, the here and now is passing us by, and we're not even paying attention. So, you know, it's really important to be in the moment, to enjoy the moment, and, you know, do the next thing right and the right thing next and stay totally focused on that and, you know, really – You know, it's that old John Wooden thing I've shared with you. Everything you do, ask yourself, what would I do right now if I were amazing? If I were just extraordinary, if I made an extraordinary effort right now. whether it's a phone call or an email or you're meeting somebody or you're going to do a favor for a friend or whatever it might be, or just being kind to people, opening the door in the southern hospitality, talking to people. What would happen if you just really reached out to somebody? And I just think if we can spend our moments that way, we can be successful. And so many people worry about, well, I want to be successful in the future. You can be successful right now by doing the next thing right and the right thing next.
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I love that. I know I think about all the cool things that John Wooden said and did with his life and how positive he was. And I admire people like that because I don't have – like every day isn't positive for me. I have days where I'm just like really sluggish in the morning and have a hard time getting out of bed and realize why people like coffee. Like my husband doesn't drink coffee. He can just pop out of bed, take a shower, and he's good for the whole day. Whereas I really need something to get me going. And I know how early you get up. And I used to get up that early. And it was torture for me to get up that early. And I just am not a morning person or don't naturally wake up like John Wooden. I don't wake up ready to take on the day. I wake up and I feel like the day is already taking me on, you know, and so I really admire people like John and for like you for that matter. And I know you had a really great family that helped raise you to be the person you are today. And from what you've told me about John Wooden, greatest coach probably of all time and so respected by his his players. and the world. He also had a father that greatly influenced him in a very positive manner, which oddly enough, Jim, even though my dad was an absentee, alcoholic, abusive husband, he was, you're going to think this sounds crazy, extremely, he was an optimist. And so when I was reacquainted with him later in life, I was really impressed by the things he'd done with his life Yeah, and I think a lot of people do that. I mean, you know, they have issues in one area of their life, but it doesn't mean they can't contribute in other ways.
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I mean, so much of the art and literature and great creations that we enjoy were made by people who had some personal issues. And, you know, I think of Vincent van Gogh. And, I mean, here's a guy, I mean, a troubled soul, but created some of the greatest art the world has ever known.
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Yes. That's a really good example. Yes. Interestingly enough, I think because he is such a colorful person and his art was so colorful, I do know a lot about him and he really did struggle. And they say comedians, artists, some of these really creative people oftentimes are some of the people that struggle more with their mental health than others. And it comes out in this interesting creative spree that he had. And boy, did he struggle.
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Yeah, he did. And ironically, he never sold any of his art during his life. And in the last 30 days of his life, he put out like 90 pieces of art, just this amazing output that today represents billions and billions of dollars worth of value. He never sold any of his art during his lifetime. Several years ago at an industry awards thing in the movie industry, I was at a table with Robin Williams. What an absolute genius. This was a troubled soul. He had some issues. His manager was with him. I don't think they let him out by himself. I asked, is he always like this? He said, he has been for the 33 years I've been with him. I don't know beyond... It was a sad, sad situation. He just never relaxed. He was always performing, whether it's three people at the table or the whole world in the movies. That was him all the time.
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Yeah, his brain just kind of like a gerbil or hamster on a wheel, just constantly, constantly going. I remember some other comedian talking about that, how his brain doesn't even slow down at night, that these thoughts just whir through it. All right, Jim, always fun to talk to you again. The article is PayAttentionJimStovel.com. Talk to you next week. Thank you, friend. Look forward to it. You too.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. You know, I was talking to Jim a little bit about traveling by myself. And, you know, as much as I do travel, generally it's for the kids sports or family reunion or to visit relatives or. you know, to take a family trip where it's maybe six of us, because my mom often comes, she's coming to the family reunion with us, which I'll admit is it's, you know, it's more complicated, because granny's a walker, generally a wheelchair, if it's a more, you know, it's a longer distance, and then we're traveling with two pets. So it'll be six of us and two pets going to the family reunion in July, and then staying in a house with three families, several adult kids, friend of an adult kid. You know what I mean? Like it's just, it's, I think we have six bedrooms in the house and it's actually on a winery. So it's like this huge house with a pool on a winery. And that's another cool way to travel, by the way, you can get such incredible houses when you divide the price up between, you know, like maybe, okay, let's say a really fancy hotel, let's say is, you know, five, six, seven, $800 a night for a really nice hotel. where you can get a really nice house for that amount. And so then you divided that between three families, and each adult is only paying $100 a night for this giant six-bedroom house on a winery with a swimming pool, and you can have your pets, a giant kitchen, and everything you'd ever want. I mean, $100 a night, even the cheapest hotels. When I was just traveling, you can't even get a hotel for $100 a night. So those Airbnbs, when you divide them up, it can be a really great way to travel with a group of people. Although if your whole family – if just your family is paying for the Airbnbs, then it can really add up. And then you have to decide whether or not you can even stand the people that you're traveling with, right? I have to be honest with you. With my family, they're super, super nice people. I mean really. So I guess I lucked out in that. My cousins, they're just – We have a group text actually with all of my cousins and every day we pretty much send back and forth like, oh, I'm on a trip or this happened or one of them lives on a lake and got a boat. And so she might send a water skiing photo. My brother is all summer long. He's a teacher. So all summer long, he's traveling with just his dog around the country, which is an interesting point there. He's fine traveling around the country in one of those sprinter vans. It's you know, it's a small R.V., with a little kitchen and all that jive. And he's got a tent, and he's got his pup, a little area for his pup, because she only weighs two pounds. So he travels all summer by himself, and he barely keeps in touch with us. He just sends a text that says, you know, I got to Yellowstone, or I got to Yosemite, Crater Lake, wherever he's traveling. This year, it's in the west. Last year, it was in the east. Anyway... Me, I'm just four days, three days really alone in Nashville. And I was like beside myself. I'm like, oh, what do I do with myself? And I was I was great when I was on the tours. Like you heard me talking to Jim about that. I was great when I was on the tours and I was with big groups of people and on my own. That was fine. I didn't mind being on the tours by myself. Because they're so interesting. I love history. But then when I found myself just like eating out alone, that's not my thing. Staying in a hotel alone, not really my thing. But my girlfriend, Jane, who travels the world without her husband, she said, why don't you want to travel with her? And he said, you know, Angie, I'm in my 70s now. I've done a lot of traveling. Like, I really like my life. I like to golf. I like my house. I like my convenience, you know. He gets tired. His, you know, his legs bother him. He doesn't want to do all the walking around. She's super social. So she goes on these tours alone and she meets people everywhere she goes. She has like a big personality and you'd think I would too, but I'm better in like a tour group where I'm with the same people every day. Now that I think I could do, I think I wouldn't feel like lonely, but I was in one hotel that was like, it was the worst hotel I've ever stayed in. And I don't know if you know, some of these, um, you know, some of these hotels, they have, uh, They're all over the country, and their brand is clean, and they have a breakfast, and I'll tell you what it was, a Holiday Inn Express. Everywhere I've stayed in them, they're usually relatively new. They're remodeled. They're a cookie cutter. They have the same breakfast. They have the same waffles. They have the same eggs. They have the same oatmeal container, fresh oatmeal, not the packets. and it's a it's a pretty decent breakfast you know and if you eat healthy they've always got fruit they've always got cereal and it's a cookie cutter everyone is almost identical even the rooms are almost identical so I stay in this one in Nashville and I got there really late and I always read the reviews I mean always and I'm telling you do always read the reviews well it's close to midnight I was kind of getting kind of deliriously tired and I was driving alone and so I just hit the next Holiday Inn Express because I have points and i can usually stay there for free but i was like oh well this one's a little bit more so i'll just pay pay for it you know it's maybe like 170 right and that's supposedly reasonable right which i still think for the well wait till i tell you about the hotel i walk in and it smells so bad i can't even begin to tell you the smell again read the reviews because when i got to my room and logged in and read the reviews There were multiple one-star reviews, and it said the mold and mildew smell was overpowering. Well, they were right about that. The sheets were, like, damp. And then I saw the pictures. People were talking about break-ins in the parking lot, three cars with broken windows when they got up the next morning, somebody that said meth pipes were next to their vehicle, the sheets that weren't clean. I mean, it was bad. And I actually wrote and talked to a representative, and they gifted me some points for staying there. But I just said, this is ruining your brand. You cannot have a hotel like this in your chain. This is ruining your brand. You've got to do something with this hotel. But then I looked back through all the reviews. They've been going on for a year or two that they're this bad. So I feel sorry for the people working there. So the person helping me said, well, did you go down to the front desk and complain? I said, why on earth would I do that in the middle of the night when it's obvious from all of the complaints to go back months and months and months and months that these poor employees can't do anything about it because the chain is not fixing the problem and they're ruining their brand with this hotel. Like a lot of people said they won't ever stay at these particular – this chain again because of the state of the hotel. So anyway, my point to that is – Read your reviews. I did not enjoy staying there. I barely slept that night, and that can really put a damper on your vacation. So anyway, I just tried to stay as busy as I could, and then I got back to my kid, and I just feel so blessed that she's going to a Christian college, and she really found her people. Because in her high school, she led a Bible study for her volleyball group, but none of the girls on her varsity team, the older girls, none of them attended. It was the younger girls, the freshmen and the sophomores that attended, but the girls her age, mostly seniors, attended. They weren't really interested in it. And they were they have a lot of drinking and partying parties, you know, drinking and, you know, pretty wild parties, boys there in the whole nine yards. And it's at one point Hope wasn't being invited to any of them. And she said they said, well, you don't drink and you don't do the things we do. And she's like, well, I'd still like an invitation. I'd like to feel like I'm being included, even if you know that I'm probably not going to go or even if I just stop by, you know. But now like these, the whole team goes to church together and they it's just wonderful. And that the people were so kind and outgoing and giving. I just thought it was really neat. All right. So there is my thing about always read your reviews. I mean, every single thing that I do, whether it is except in this one case, I read the reviews for hotels. I read the reviews for tours, for cruises, for, You know, certain and I'm in different groups to like different travel groups like I use Frontier Airlines a lot because I have some elite like benefits or whatever with that. And then I have that go wild pass where you can fly anywhere in the country for just taxes that everywhere that they fly at least. and they're like last-minute tickets. And so I go into these groups, and I get advice and blah, blah, blah. I mean, you can find a group for everything now. My son's in this really advanced Excel business class where you have to do a lot of Excel spreadsheets, and they're pretty in-depth, some of these projects he does. And I got an Excel experts group that helps him with that kind of stuff. So I thought that was kind of cool. I mean, you literally can find a group for everything. In fact, we're getting a rental property, and I'm like, oh, I'm going to go in and see if they have a Boulder – landlords group to offer advice on certain things like leases and insurance and stuff like that pretty wild all right well I was going to talk to you about some good news but I got carried away with talking about travel advice and whether or not I'm a lone wolf which apparently I'm not but I do have something else for you changing gears here A beautiful in your skin month is June, and it's each June to focus attention on promoting healthy skin routines and self-love. And don't we all need a little more self-love? Here to help is renowned dermatologist Dr. Alexis Stevens, who is teaming up with Olay Body to share body and skin care tips for the summer. Dr. Stevens is founder of Lex Dermatology and Aesthetics in Boca Raton, Florida, where you definitely need good skin care. Welcome to the program, Dr. Alexis Stevens.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Well, I've got a few lifeguards in the family, teenagers, and I'm always talking to them about the importance of still wearing sunscreen, even if they do want to tan. So let's just start with the basics. What's the most important thing to know about skincare?
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Most important are to make sure that you're using products that are protective and effective. So protective against the sun and environmental stressors and effective in that the ingredients are actually going to help to yield true benefits to your skin.
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Okay, so let's talk about that. Can a daily routine help with that overall wellness when using the right ingredients?
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Yes, a good AM and PM routine can really help with overall skin health, quality, and appearance. It doesn't need to be extensive. It can be a very simple routine, cleansing, hydrating, protecting the skin, but making sure that you also are taking care of your body skin is important. So I love to recommend products that I know actually work that have science behind them. Olay Super Serum Body Wash is my go-to, especially for this time of year because it's multi-tasker. No one wants to use a bunch of different products to get to the end goal. And so I love that that product can help with hydration, firming, smoothing, brightening, and evening out the skin tone.
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Awesome. All right. Let's talk about some of the benefits of using that quality skincare product.
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A good quality skincare product is going to make sure that your skin is improving in the immediate but also the long term. So ingredients matter here. And also the technology behind the product matters so that the ingredients actually get into the skin and don't just sit on top of the skin. So one of my favorite ingredients are niacinamide. It does so much for the skin, but also vitamin E and collagen peptides because I feel like we're all in our well-aging era. So I love a product that can help with all of those things.
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Oh, yeah, me too. All right, let's talk about technology of skin care. I've got a friend who is a doctor like you who is very involved in this area, and I know she's always talking about the improvements. So can you tell us how skin care technology has improved over the last several years?
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One of the biggest breakthroughs has been in the way that the ingredients are actually being delivered to the skin. It gets through, and it's not just being rinsed away. Olay's Body Advanced Skin Delivery System, for example, actually will moisturize with the ingredients while it's penetrating through, and it helps to exfoliate all at the same time. They actually did a clinical study where 80% of the women reported improvement in just 14 days.
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Yeah, that's pretty impressive. All right, what else should we know?
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For the summer, make sure that you are hydrating from the inside out. So, of course, drink your water, but give back to your body by making sure that your products are hydrating properly. moisturizing, and protective. So that's really important. And a good balanced lifestyle always matters. A nice diet is good. And avoid the sun between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. if you can because that's when the UV index is the highest.
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And, you know, in another arena, I've got kids that are battling acne right now. They still need their sunscreen. That's not going to exacerbate their acne problem, right?
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Exactly. They want to find a sunscreen that is going to say non-comedogenic, non-acneogenic. And that will help to make sure that the sunscreen is protecting because actually if the skin barrier is damaged from the sun, it can lead to more acne.
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And you mentioned food. I can't convince my kids or tell them enough, especially my son. He's been, you know, breaking out again. And I said, have you looked at your diet? He's like, well, what does that have to do with it? I'm like, everything. Yeah.
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All right, Doc. I will. All right, Doc, give us the best website for us to go to for more details. I want to check out that body serum.
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Sure. You can find more details at LA.com, and you can find the body serum at National Retailers. Great. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.

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I want them to focus on the cities, because the cities are where you really have what's called sanctuary cities, and that's where the people are. I look at New York, I look at Chicago. I mean, you've got a really bad governor in Chicago and a bad mayor, but the governor's probably the worst in the country, Pritzker. But I look at how that city has been overrun by criminals. And, you know, New York and L.A., look at L.A. L.A., those people weren't from... LA they weren't from California most of those people many of those people and yeah, that's that's a focus Biden allowed 21 million people to come into our country of that vast Numbers of those people were murderers killers people from gangs people from jails They emptied their jails out into the US. Most of those people are in the cities all blue cities all Democrat run cities and they think they're going to use them to vote and It's not going to happen.
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Hmm. That's POTUS. He's speaking right at the start of G7, which we're going to there's a lot of stuff to unpack today. And he had some really interesting soundbites there. Of course, he was talking about some of the protests that were not protests, the riots. That's yeah. The riots that have been happening ongoing in California today. And they they still and they've I mean, now you have the Portland weirdos that have been getting into it. What do you got Seattle? You got Portland. You got a number of other. I mean, the usual suspect blue cities. You know what I mean? The ones where you're like, oh, there's not already a protest over something there. I mean, I know that sounds kind of weird to say, but I'm just so used to those people constantly in the streets protesting over some sort of perceived injustice that it's not actually an injustice. It's people who are mad about. having to follow the law. So I'm just kind of used to that always kind of happening. Welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. Like I said, we've got a ton of stuff to jump into. And we've got the issue with the well, we've got the update with the Minnesota assassin. We've got him And we're going to dive into that. We also have a lot of the latest as with the protests and then with Iran and with Israel and G7 because G7 is kicking off. And there's been some interesting soundbites that have come from POTUS from that, especially, like I said, right as he was there with Mark Carney, who's the new Canadian prime minister. And it was interesting because POTUS went and was talking about how Russia it should have been G8, he said. But he said that it was it was Obama and Carney's predecessor, Barack Obama, that that kicked out that had them. remove Putin, I guess, from consideration. And Trump had said, well, you wouldn't have a war if he was still in G8, if it was still G8. And if Russia was being considered, he's like, you probably wouldn't have a war is what he said, which I thought was an interesting soundbite. Listen to this. This is what this really struck me this morning as we were preparing to come into the studio. Listen.
SPEAKER 16 :
I look forward to that. The G7 used to be the G8. Barack Obama and a person named Trudeau didn't want to have Russia in. And I would say that that was a mistake because I think you wouldn't have a war right now if you had Russia in. And you wouldn't have a war right now if Trump were president four years ago. But it didn't work out that way. But it used to be the G8. And now it's, I guess, what's that, nine years ago, eight years ago, it switched over there. They threw Russia out, which I claimed was a very big mistake, even though I wasn't in politics then. I was very loud about it. It was a mistake in that you spend so much time talking about Russia that he's no longer at the table. So it makes life more complicated. But you wouldn't have had the war.
SPEAKER 13 :
One of the things that POTUS said was, well, and he was saying that, well, Putin only talks to me now. Like he was lamenting, like, gosh, I'm the one that's got to be the only person to take the calls. That's what it sounded like when I heard that. I was like, hmm, that's kind of interesting. Now, speaking of Russia, it also looks like, as it relates to some of the latest with Iran and Israel, at this point, I think it's because there have been so many sites that have not just been decimated, but entirely destroyed over there. And this is all based off of Israeli intel, wherein they were there. Their position was that they were just right on the cusp of developing nuclear capability. which is something that they, I mean, they would have immediately probably struck out at Israel and the United States if all of this intelligence, which I'm sure sometime we'll later learn, if everything is entirely accurate. It's been a destabilized region for a long time. I mean, it's been a destabilized region since before I was born and before any of us here. Most of you listening, this is the Jimmy Carter era, right? This is what happened when Jimmy Carter overthrew the Shah and then installed in place this regime. It's not even religious, this fanatical regime. And we're seeing the consequence of that still to this day. And now one of the things that POTUS had said, too, is that this is going to come down to the people of Iran standing up. and pushing back at their government. But there have been tons of sites that have been absolutely and utterly destroyed. They still have a little bit left of missile capability, but there's question as to how they're able to control it. Because in the very beginning, I mean, actually, when they first launched, this was back in, I think, July of last year, because you remember, this is simply retaliation. that Israel is taking against Iran. Iran bypassed in what was the true escalation using the Houthis and Hezbollah to the north, Hamas to the south, using those longstanding three terror proxies. They always used them to carry out their attacks and not just carry out attacks against Israel, but also against United States assets and soldiers themselves. There have been a lot of Americans killed by Iran, a lot of soldiers killed by Iran. And so the bypassing of those terror groups and directly attacking Israel. sometime a handful of months ago, almost July of last year, that this response is not an escalation. It's a response. And I just reject the idea that just because they waited to make sure that they had everything in place properly and that they had a good plan, that somehow that means you forfeit your right to self-defense, like you're supposed to go out and just throw haymakers. That doesn't make any sense. So I can't stand that narrative from the media. But that said... Now we're hearing that Iran might be. I mean, it looks like everybody's reporting and everybody. I mean, all of the usual suspects in the legacy press. It almost feels like they're begrudgingly reporting that Iran is. wanting to come to the table for some kind of negotiations because the missiles now, as I was mentioning, the missiles now that they are firing seem a lot more reckless than previous because there was one that landed near a U.S. consulate. And that's pretty dangerous. But I remember the air command capability in Tehran was taken out. A number of other command centers were taken out in addition to a ton more missiles in storage. So I think that they're out of resources. I think that they're out of any kind of capability. And I don't know what their response is going to be. They're not going to be able to send any kind of ground soldiers over because they don't have any support from Syria, whether it's airspace or anything. Their airspace right now is entirely ruled by Israel. So this is the state of things. There was a refueling aircraft that was headed east. The strikes are ongoing, but now it's more about taking out any remaining regime military leaders. And you remember the IRCG, it's that Islamic Revolutionary Guard. The IRCG, they lost all of their top dudes in precision strikes because these guys were so stupid. They stayed in their penthouses in Tehran instead of reading the room like everybody else was on social media and realizing that when POTUS was evacuating embassies around the Middle East, something probably was amiss. And so they had these guys still stay in these These high rises taken up by a precision strike so that the next morning, all the people who would be meeting to talk about a response were dead. So right now, at this point, they're taking out the rest of the IRCG and the IRCG. Those were the people that were on top of the buildings, sniping citizens who were protesting in the street for the Green Revolution in Iran. That was the entity that shot in the head and killed Nita Sultan while she just literally got out of her car because they were approaching an intersection that was blocked off. And there were protesters in the streets and her dad had picked her up from somewhere and they were on their way back home. And she got out and one of the IRGC shot her in the head and she was shot and died and bled out right on video. And it was a video for everybody to see. So, yeah, those are bad guys that are being taken out at this point. And I think at this stage of this operation, it's about taking out those military heads and then kind of making sure that any capability that they have to strike is entirely decimated. But POTUS said, yeah, Iran is not winning this war. They immediate they should talk to us immediately and get this settled. I mean, are they Iran? I mean, are they going to surrender? There's a lot of discussion from coming out of Dubai, the Wall Street Journal, their Dubai bureau. They've been signaling that they want to seek an end to hostilities and a resumption of talks over their enrichment programs, because prior what they had proposed was, well, we will we will stop. But we want to keep our enrichment programs. Well, that's a non-starter from everyone involved. And notice how they're not getting any other support from any other Arab nations. I don't know if you saw what happened over the weekend, but there were a bunch of peaceniks and hippies and pro-Hamas wannabe Gazans that marched to the border in Rafah, you know, because Egypt has a giant multi-level wall there. At the border of Gaza, you want to talk about walls? Egypt doesn't just have one wall. Egypt has layers of walls, barbed wire and snipers in towers at the Rafah border. And what happened was these protesters and these wannabe Gaza Hamas simps, they decide to approach the border and the Egyptian police beat the hell out of them. They thought they were going to do what they are doing in California and just push through and go on. And that was not happening. Egypt's military wasn't allowing it. The police and their border control at the Rafah crossing weren't allowing it. And they did. They beat and detained every single one of those people that try to pull Gruta von Thunberg and Gruta Thunberg and cross over into Gaza. It wasn't happening. So that was pretty unbelievable. I don't know if you've seen some of the video footage of that. I don't think we can play any of the audio because, Cain, didn't you tell me that any kind of cussing in any language is probably not allowed? Even if Brendan Carr, the chairman of the FCC with whom we have our get out of free jail card, doesn't speak it?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm just erring on the side of caution. That's all I'm doing.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK, I just it's very good. And it's very because it was very interesting. I got to say it's very interesting audio. But yeah, I'm pretty sure there was a lot of because I recognized one word and it kept being repeated. And I'm like, I have a knack for knowing all the bad words and all that. I don't know. I don't know what happened. But they're signaling apparently that they they're wanting to they're wanting to reduce. Oh, yeah. After now, they want to reduce hostilities. Israeli officials says that they have more weeks of strikes prepared for. And they've prepared this for a long time. I mean, the fact that they were able to create in Iran's borders this drone base is pretty amazing. So Arab leaders, you know, we told you Saudi Arabia's statement last week was sort of like, oh, no, stop, wink, wink. They're not really. Because they don't like Iran. You have the Shia versus Sunni power struggle there. And they've never been friendly with Iran. And Iran actually has been destabilizing every ability the Saudis have. of getting involved and making investments, right? Remember, the Saudis have been wanting to go and build. They got a new crown prince and they've been wanting to go and they've been turning into capitalists and they've been westernizing their nation. I mean, everyone says that the Saudis have been sports washing. I think the sports are capitalized washing the Saudis. Really, ultimately, I kind of think that we'll talk more about that. We also have Stephen Yates later on in the program for probably what's going to be the longest segment ever that he's ever had on the show because he can never leave. This is what happens when he leaves. As we move, we've got a lot still underway. Headlines coming up. Our friends at Gold Co. Gold Co. Precious Metals. Gold Co. knows. I mean, they understand. Smart investors get it. And they understand the market through and through. And they want to help you add actual gold and silver to your portfolio because they've stood the test of time. Hard assets offer real security. It's not like paper, right? They're not tied to the performance of the stock market or government debt. They offer a tangible way to safeguard what you have. And you can get educated before you invest. They have a free 2025 gold and silver kit. Breaks down everything you need to know about how precious metals can fit into your financial strategy. And you can also unlock exclusive bonus silver. And if you qualify, Goldco is going to match your investment with unlimited bonus silver. No taxes or penalties. This is confidence in uncertain times. Visit danalikesgold.com and join the thousands of people like yours truly who have called Goldco the number one rated gold company. And right now you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit and qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. That's danalikesgold.com.
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subscribe to the dana show podcast because who says you can't make fun of people while staying informed on your own personal time subscribe on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcast have you heard any signals or seen any messages from intermediaries that iran wishes to de-escalate the conflict yeah what have you what have you heard what have you heard from the iranians they'd like to talk but
SPEAKER 16 :
They should have done that before. I had 60 days, and they had 60 days. And on the 61st day, I said, we don't have a deal. They have to make a deal. It's painful for both parties, but I'd say Iran is not winning this war. And they should talk, and they should talk immediately before it's too late.
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Yeah. I mean, I think that that's a sensible thing. That's POTUS just a little while ago as he arrived for G7. And he made remarks, too, about how it should be G8. We'll talk more about that coming up. But the... The news that Iran could be seeking discussions to end it. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, yeah, I would imagine. I would imagine. And the Iranian military or the Iranian leadership, they've been asking for apparently asking for some assistance, but it's not happening so much. In fact, they the news is that they they were asking Russia for assistance or from some sort of for some sort of help. And I think Russia then turned right around and pulled his dudes out of their embassies. I'm just saying, I think, I mean, we're on how much, how many days of war is this? No, we're on a conflict, seven, eight. Yeah. The mullahs wanted Putin to talk to Trump. And apparently, according to multiple reports, Trump said he wasn't going to stop Iran from finishing off what Iran started or was going to stop Israel from finishing off what Iran started. And then apparently he ordered Putin asked the diplomatic personnel for Russia to get out of Tehran. I mean, reportedly, but apparently that's what and I've seen that from a couple of different sources. Nobody wants Iran and Iran doesn't Iran only serves a useful purpose so long as it is a perceived threat. But, you know, there's that old adage that, you know, prove your God can bleed. And I think that that, you know, this has been a long time in the making. This has been a long time in the making when Iran, when Israel hit back at Hezbollah, really, really nearly incapacitated Hezbollah after the fall of Syria. And you have Bashar al-Assad, who was very, very friendly to Iran, the new regime leader. I'm not saying that he's any better because it's always kind of a worse of the lesser of the two devils in this situation. But you got this guy who advertises himself as a reformed jihadi who's taking over Syria, but he closed airspace and was not allowing Iran to use Syrian airspace for any purpose. And now with this, Russia's been involved in some of these diplomatic efforts, and Putin initiated it at Iran's request, this discussion with Trump. But Trump said, no, We're not doing that. And then apparently after it was made very, very clear that Trump was not going to in any way inhibit Israel from responding, that's apparently reportedly when Putin sent a warning to the Supreme Leader of Iran stating, you in danger, girl. Need to go. So, well, I just don't know how much longer Iran can play out, play this out at this point. And we're going to talk at length to Stephen Yates about this. In the meantime, we had the protest. I don't think the No Kings protest. Did it really make any kind of headlines? They had all their thunder stolen sort of in a way, didn't they? Yeah. They really tried, but I just don't think it made a lot of headlines. Oh, except for there was, and this is one of the things that Lorraine had noted this morning, they had a guy who apparently brought his, who is it, this guy brought a rifle and ended up, a leftist shot a leftist at one of the protests, is from what I understand. Mm-hmm. They otherwise, I mean, they were trying to shut down roads, et cetera. And I just don't. I mean, I don't think that they... They sold merch. Did you see this? Over the weekend, CBS was advertising, oh, here's the merch for No Kings. They tweeted it out like it was a news story, but it's really... It was an ad. I mean, for all intents and purposes, it was an ad. I remarked about something on... I can't even remember what I said, but I'm sure it's not safe for air. But I responded to it. But they... CBS, shocker, shocker. They... It was like they were advertising for this. Oh, here's their merchandise. How do you have merch... You know, quick note. Do these people not realize that for however long, we have always had a No Kings Day? It's called July 4th. July 4th has been our No Kings Day for... Since the late 1700s. Yeah. Yeah. Long time.
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1776.
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It's been a long time. So I'm not quite sure what they think that they're accomplishing here. But there is a difference in approach. No kings, apparently. Their leftist protest is about they actually do want a king, but it has to be their their political bent. And also destruction and arson, et cetera, et cetera. And really, it's about illegal immigration. And then you have, you know, the Fourth of July, which is about country and the republic, et cetera. This was a grown adult man. This was audio somebody to a protest, a physical adult, actual male who was beating a Trump doll in Beverly Hills.
SPEAKER 11 :
Did you just misgender someone?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I mean, let's roll the tape. Is this entertaining to somebody? Is this entertaining to this guy?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think it's supposed to be therapeutic.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thera Trumpy, Trump-induced anxiety help. Well, I mean, that explains it. It's TDS. They actually have a little TDS booth there.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, when you hate capitalism, don't you just love using capitalism against capitalism?
SPEAKER 13 :
I know. My favorite thing about people who hate capitalism is that they engage in it. And then they protest against it, and then they go engage in it some more. It's actually stunning. That guy, how old was that guy, do you think? Ah, 60-something? Oh, dude, he had to be older than that. I don't know. Hate ages you, though. It does. Right? Hate makes you ugly. It does. So my grandmother said, but then she'd say something hateful. The, uh... That was their little protest there. You know what that reminded me of when I first saw that clip? It reminded me of the clueless fair that they had for Pismo Beach cleanup, their environment. It reminded me of a clueless scene. Those were some of the little booths that they had. But I don't, I mean, I really, what did they accomplish? What was the point of it? I mean, oh, and then they got this. Is this a chick that's running? I'm watching some of the video that Juan's preparing. She's in one of those inflatable suits and it just says no king on it.
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We just collected some B-roll for the folks today.
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I mean, what is this? What purpose is this? No king. So the little, I don't know, man.
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She's her own airbag.
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She is. She's her own orbit. Look at her. She's in one of those little inflatable suits. I don't know. I really don't understand the point of what they're doing. I don't know. Also, the Minnesota suspect. I know we've got so much. We're going to try to cover everything today. The killer in Minnesota. There was a lot of discussion as to motive on this. And I think we're still trying to get facts out because everything's weird. It's just so weird to me. There's a piece that Lorraine has up right now over at Substack that gets into all of it. If you are a subscriber over at Chapter and Verse, you have all of the latest. She's been running this down. She's also been running down the socialist movements behind the L.A. riots, too. But this suspect that they arrested, he was found and arrested near his home over the weekend after a two-day manhunt. The Ramsey County Sheriff's apparently The way that they found him was a trail cam. He got picked up on some dude's trail cam. And then from that, they were able to kind of run him down. He was still armed when police arrested him, according to reports. But they didn't say exactly what he had. They had a statement on Facebook where they said he's the face of evil, etc. He's in custody. They have multiple agents. His wife released a statement to the press. John Hoffman's wife, Hoffman and his wife, that they made it through surgery. They were shot by this guy. But thankfully, they made it through surgery, although the other lawmaker and her spouse, they were not. But this all I mean, you guys remember this guy had a police SUV and was able to go to these people's houses in the middle of the night. And I think everyone immediately wants to know, because they're trying to place blame, what were his politics. But it's all over the place. Like he had no King stuff in his car. And then he had a hit list that made it kind of seem like it was related to abortion. There was reports of a manifesto that were circulating online, but nobody really knows if it was true or not. And nothing if it was just a hit list or if it was a manifesto something, you know, it may have been just the hit list. They did have that. And the individual, he apparently texted his roommates because he had a roommate to get any texted one of his roommates and said that he loved the guys and that he made some choices. You guys don't know anything about and I'm going to be gone for a while. It's just weird. He says, sorry about all the trouble that this has caused. I mean, what is this guy's motivation? It's all over the place. This is very weird. And of course, obviously, the fog of tragedy, there's all kinds of information that comes out and everybody wants to be first and they don't want to be right. And the media doesn't help because immediately everybody started pushing a political agenda. And I think that the quickest thing they tried to do was blame POTUS. The authorities, this is the manifesto. Minnesota authorities say they're not going to release this manifesto of this guy. And remember, a state lawmaker, Melissa Hortman, was killed. Listen to this audio here.
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At this point in time, it would be premature. The question was, is the manifesto and the information that we have received, is there motivations? We are working diligently on that. There's certainly some indications within that, but there's not specifics enough. We have been, this is a very active and fluid investigation throughout the day as you've been waiting and these teams have been out working out in the field and they have been
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gathering more documents and information so it would be pretty mature for me at this point to really say exactly what the motivation might be from these writings but we will be continuing to work on that and provide that information when we're able but if it's just know this if the guy was if the guy's on the left that's nobody's ever going to talk about it again and if he's on the right that's all you're going to hear about from the same people who pretty much brushed off the two not one but two attempted assassinations on the sitting president Just pointing that out. I mean, it shouldn't really matter because I think if you are shooting at lawmakers, you're evil. If you're out there trying to kill lawmakers for any reason, then you're evil. I mean, there's there's no other way to put it. There's no nothing. So this I don't know. He seems. What do you think? What do you think, Kane? Does it even matter? I'm just like the guy's evil. I don't care. I don't want anybody shooting at anybody over politics.
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No, the guy's definitely evil. The media is trying to paint him as though he's this Trump supporter and this evangelical and all of this. And it's. Not true. When you unravel it all, and Data Republican had a great post that sort of did that, and you can see exactly all the systems he had set up to make it look as though and to sort of create some clout for him in certain circles, but that's not exactly the story. And I think people need to see that. So I think our media, again, is garbage.
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Yeah. Incredibly garbage. Incredibly garbage. Indeed. At this. I know. I don't know. I it's sad. It's sad that this because now I'm seeing it repeated over and over again. Oh, well, violence now seems to be commonplace with politics. Now, I keep hearing this over and over again. And I don't want that to become a norm. I don't want that to be fait accompli. It's a cemented standard now just because and I see a lot of people on the left saying it. And I don't know why. I don't know why anyone would accept that. I reject that nonsense. We've got more on this. We've got we've got a lot to hit today. Just so you guys know, just to get everything set up for the week as we move partners for the program, the burn a gun always. I always carry and I have no problem using lethal force to protect myself. The issue, though, comes from the places that do have issue with you protecting yourself. And heaven forbid they offer any kind of armed security to protect you too, right? Talking about private property restrictions, municipal restrictions, or college kids that are old enough to live on their own and go to school, but they're not old enough to carry a handgun for protection. This is where the Burna gun comes in. So most stun guns have one or two rounds. Burna gun has five. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. There's no recoil. Target acquisition is super easy. And the big thing is that Berna is legal in all 50 states. There's no background checks. There's no waiting periods. There's no permits. They ship it right to your door. It's accessible for everybody. So you still have a means with which to defend yourself. This is why diversity with your weapons array is important. You carry different calibers. You carry rifles and pistols. You have blades. Something like this in those instances is also incredibly helpful. Now, they have rifles, but I think for this explicit purpose, the Berna SD, which is their most popular selling model, and then the Berna CL. The CL stands for compact launcher. That's 38% smaller than the SD. Everything's made right here in the U.S. of A., And you can go and look at the different projectiles. You can actually go and look at how it works. Different projectiles, different accessories, the whole nine yards. But you have an effective deterrent still. And you also have the legal access. Visit Burna.com slash Dana and get your hands on the new Burna CL. That's B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana. Burna, ready when you are.
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If the raids hadn't happened, then that protest would have been a no-kings protest. We know that that was planned months in advance. But the disruption and the fear that has been caused by the raids has really had a devastating effect and has been a body blow to our economy. I don't think the president understands that we have entire sectors of our economy that cannot function without immigrant labor.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, there's a difference between immigrant labor and illegal immigrant labor. I don't know why that's so hard for them. Make your mouths make the words. It's not hard. Immigrant and illegal. They're immigrant. There's a way big difference. Way big difference. Why does this... No one's saying that, no, we hate people who are immigrating to the country legally. No, nobody's saying that. Everybody, including immigrants who came here to become Americans, they're all, everybody's like, wait, no, no, no. You don't just get to roll up and not state your purpose and who you are and just like roll on through. No, we're not doing that. We're not doing that at all. Not at all. I mean, remember, one of the things that came out and there was a lot of discussion about this, you know, going back to these Minnesota lawmakers assassinations that Hortman, Representative Hortman, she was one of the only actually she was the only Democrat in Minnesota that voted against. or voted for, excuse me, she voted for a bill that was removing illegal immigrants, people who recently came into the country illegally, from receiving taxpayer-subsidized health care. It was like a state health care program for lower-income families, lower-income folks, and taxpayer-funded families. And they Democrats were pushing to have illegal immigrants placed on it. You know, people who are not paying into state taxes. That does. Why would you do that? And she was the lone Democrat. And she's like not a Democrat, Democrat. She's like a Democrat, socialist, whatever. She's like a specific person. genus of democrat uh but uh she was the only one who voted against it and a lot of people were wondering does that play into this does this have something to do with that but the um idea that you that anybody would do that that's that is overtaxing a system that is not able to adequately serve everyone including people who are not paying into it and nobody i mean i don't know this but i'm so tired of the language from the left on this and they conflate this so that they can try to argue that well if you don't agree with us then you just hate immigrants it's not the case second hour on the way we got so much to cover you guys we haven't even gotten into a lot of the stuff that happened on saturday with the parade and everything else stay with us and enforcement of existing law i don't understand what he means here unless this is amnesty so i'm going to set this on the table and we're going to come back to it we have headlines coming up that i know you also don't want to miss as we move our partners that will bring you the program it's our friends over at super beats the super marine product if you are unfamiliar with it well let me tell you it's like you know you know the super beats this is what i've been taking It's great for healthy blood pressure, to support healthy blood pressure. The Superbrewing is all about supporting healthy metabolism and blood sugar levels. And metabolism is so incredibly important. And I have super crazy high metabolism. And it's always good to make sure that, you know, you're supporting healthy metabolism and make sure that your blood sugar, you know, you don't want to, it just, it helps to, it helps to support healthy regulation. Let's put it like that. And it's from the makers of Superbeats. Doctor formulated, plant-based. The berberine that they use is super unique. It's Italian olive fruit extract. They didn't just go and get like any hobo berberine, right? They went and got real, they used really top notch stuff. And they actually, you know, include signs in this. The unique berberine that they use, that's why they call it super berberine, it's clinically studied to deliver 10 times. higher absorption than standard berberine. And you also have, it's also super highly concentrated with higher absorption. That means fewer pills to swallow. So it's one easy to swallow capsule a day. And then they also include grapeseed extract in it. And so that means less, you're not gonna have GI distress. It's something apparently that's common with some folks, so you have greater tolerability. You can find both the new SuperBrewing and the number one best-selling SuperBeats HeartChews at Sam's Club. Restock your heart health support with these SuperBeats HeartChews, and then expand your routine with a once-a-day capsule from SuperBrewing for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support. Start today. Get on the road to better cardiovascular health support.
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With respect to the potential motive, let me say this. There's been a lot of press coverage and speculation and discussion of a manifesto. I've seen nothing like a Met Unabomber style manifesto in his writings. He had many, many notebooks full of plans, lists of names, surveillance, efforts that he took to surveil and locate the home addresses and family members relationships with these elected officials. But I have not seen anything involving some sort of political screed or manifesto that would clearly identify what motivated him. Obviously, his primary motive was to go out and murder people. Now, they were all elected officials. They were all Democrats. Beyond that, I think it's just way too speculative for anyone who has reviewed these materials to know and to say what was motivating him in terms of ideology or specific issues. There's a lot of... There were some abortion rights supporters, I believe, on the list, but again, there was dozens and dozens and dozens of names on, you know, hundreds of pages of documents that were recovered with his writings on them. Did he confess and give more details after he was apprehended last night? I'm not going to comment on that at this time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Then release them if it's not a manifesto. I mean, can anybody give me a good argument for not releasing it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Uh, doxing, maybe?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I mean... I think at this point, and this is kind of what's weird about our society because I really ultimately put this on the left that always wants everything to be so politicized immediately as opposed to waiting for the facts to come in because that also is incredibly dangerous in the wake of stuff like this. But I do think that it is important to share with the public that how they view the motivation of this. I mean, clearly it's a political motivation, but what type of political motivation? I mean, is this something that comes from the right? Does it come from the left? I mean, I I'm with you. I think that, I mean, if you're shooting lawmakers, does it matter if it's because that you disagree with their politics? It's just that you think that that's an acceptable way to express disagreement. That's what's insane. And just evil. I don't even think it's insane. I think it's just evil. And I, Everyone wants to point fingers. I just want to know what made why what this guy believed and what made him believe that. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this second hour and we'll have Stephen Yates coming up at the bottom of the hour. We have a lot to discuss with him. I just think, too, if you are a. If it's not a manifesto, what did they say? Hundreds of notebooks? Kane, is that how they put it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Hundreds of pages.
SPEAKER 13 :
He had all kinds of plans and ideas and names written down. Apparently, there were tons of names in his list. I'd like to know who they are. I mean, are they going to go and contact all the people that are in there and say, hey, by the way. Also, Kane brought up a good point when we were on break. The guy has a wife. You know, he had a family and but he's been living with this with roommates. What's going on there and how much influence? I think it's a legitimate question to ask whether or not these inmates were influential on him. How this guy came to believe the stuff that he did. Was it a recent development? I think all of this stuff is completely fine to ask. In fact, I think it should be part of the investigation to ask something like this. But good heavens, tons and tons of books and all kinds of stuff that they had that this guy had. So he's been booked in the county jail on murder. He showed up to his first court appearance today. I think it's supposed to is at 130 Central's when he shows up. OK, so he's supposed to be in court today. The hit list. Apparently includes tons of politicians, a lot of Democrat leaders with abortion clinics. Now, that's the thing. Also abortion clinics on there. A lot of people were trying to make this out to be about abortion. I still think that that's. really uh new to do i think that's again there's still stuff coming in the reason i like to wait and of course we always do this i mean you want to wait for a full fact of the matter you have people like uh who was it that was out there blaming i've got audio let me go to the audio let me go to the audio list uh because you i think you had tim walls that blamed trump and mean tweets audio soundbite 14 this is not helpful listen to tim walls here
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That's the embodiment of how things are supposed to work. It's not about hatred. It's not about mean tweets. It's not about demeaning someone. It's leading with grace and compassion and vision and compromise and decency. That was taken from us in Minnesota.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hmm. Why is he so sure that this has to do with mean tweets? Hmm? What does this have to do with mean tweets? That seems to be pretty unsubstantiated. This 57-year-old guy, this, was he, I don't know if he was left-wing. I don't know what he was. Here's the thing. You know, on the right, if someone on the right or someone who, I don't even want to say that someone's on the right. If someone thinks that they have beliefs that lean right, if they commit a crime, I mean, that's something that's condemned. I don't know why it wouldn't be. The left operates in the way that they're approaching this. They're operating like, oh, well, this is something that's a commonplace with the right. And also the right is not going to hold accountable anyone that would subscribe to any kind of belief set. I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm against murder. So this guy does not on my side. What was up with all the no king stuff that was found in his car? That's the other thing. I thought that was weird too. All of the stuff that was in the, I mean, just all it said was no Kings on it. It looked like zero Xerox copies of it. It didn't look like just literally just like a white piece of paper and eight by 10. And it just said no Kings on it. And there was just stacks of that in his car. What is that? That's weird. What is that? What do you, would you even use that for? Lorraine has written about this. The guy didn't like his job that he had, and he was staying at the house with roommates on days that he was working, apparently, Kane. Hmm. Was he always like this, though? I do think that that's something that you could share with the public. Oh, it looks like he had these viewpoints for years, or he had this dissatisfaction for years. Juan showing you on the simulcast, like, what do you do? That's all Xerox. What do you do with that? It all says the same thing. Big, giant stack of it. It's weird, right? I'm not quite sure what that indicates, but I don't know. It's important to figure out the motive and more about this guy before everyone starts rushing. I don't know. I've got... There's like all kinds of... I mean, it's... He's got a hit... I mean, it says hit list on this. It literally says hit list. Some of the... And I'm looking, and this apparently was given to some of the local news agencies that are there. I know Alpha News has some. I think that some other local reporters have them as well. But, I mean, just a ton of lawmakers on this list. So he was mad when he's blaming these lawmakers for his job. Not quite sure. We're still learning more about it. But they got him, and they used a drone as well. When he saw the drone in the air, he lifted his hands up and walked towards the SWAT vehicle. And they got photos of him. The photos that you saw where he's in this rural area, those are the photos that they took of him upon his arrest. But he remained at large for a couple days, and they finally got him. I'm looking at the hit list that he has. There's a lot of different names on here. They... I don't know. This whole thing, and I told this to Lorraine over the weekend, this doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense, does it? I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. He did not like his job. He stayed at another house while he was working. I don't know what his home life is like with his wife, etc. He's got all of these different indicators that are suggesting a million different things that were found in his vehicle. He's got this hit list. It's like all over the place. Nothing makes sense here. It doesn't make sense. They're never going to, even if there was a manifesto, I don't know, maybe there is. I just think if you have like tons of notebooks of writings in them, probably some of that's a manifesto. You know what I'm saying? You have a hit list. Might as well be a manifesto. A lot of weird things on here. They have the, like for instance, he has the Anoka County Legislature Delegation. Just randomly on there. It's odd. And then just other names. Very odd indeed. As far as the rhetoric and the violence, I think that the only time that I've ever seen violence actually protected is when the media tries to say that these are mostly peaceful protests. I mean, you would literally watch stores burn and you're told that they're mostly peaceful. Or you watch cops get hit with giant chunks of concrete and you're told it's mostly peaceful. Or someone's I mean, I just read that there was actually this was like a couple of hours ago. Wasn't there another footlocker looted? I'm not kidding. Like there literally was. And yeah, this was ABC Eyewitness News. This is in Los Angeles. This is an auto zone. Just let me share this headline for you. Auto zone store looted again. And Southern Los Angeles following another street takeover with these riots. They triggered an investigation. It was broken into and looted following a street takeover in L.A. And they said a large number of people walked in. Suspects were gone by the time the officers got there. You have video of people looting it, but they can't catch anybody. They don't have the resources to. I doubt they even report this. You know, California, as we talked about last week, doesn't even report a lot of their crimes to the FBI. Like felonious activity. So it's just mostly peaceful, mostly peaceful protest, Kane. That's all that is. Yeah, mostly peaceful protest. So just saying. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. This is the roommate of this alleged killer, audio somebody 12, who was interviewed by the police. Listen to this. Again, none of this makes sense. Listen.
SPEAKER 24 :
Can you talk about his politics a little bit? I know that you had some discussions .
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, everyone's calling him a Democrat. He's not a Democrat. He would be offended if people called him a Democrat. But because of this board thing he was on for Governor Walz, he was just serving the community.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, Walls did say at one point that he became friends with shooters. He did? I mean, he did say that. Remember Tim Walls making a speech and he said, yeah, yeah, you can become friends with shooters. Talking about, I mean, actual killers. So, I don't know. Maybe when he pointed them on this board, maybe that's part of it. I don't know. We're going to come back to it, though. We've got a lot still to unpack here. Because it's been, we've got the ongoing stuff with Iran and Israel. We've got the riots. And you've got G7 riots. All kinds of stuff. And then the King's protests as well. This innocent bystander. This is NBC. They had so they had, quote unquote, peacekeepers at the New King's protest in Salt Lake City. Right. And they these peacekeepers had no idea what they were doing. They apparently had never had any kind of training to deal with the crowd. And apparently they didn't really have any firearms training either. It's like when they were performing a security role, a self-appointed security role, and they had absolutely no training to do so. So shockingly, one of them shot somebody. We're going to talk more about this coming up. We've got to roll into headlines, though, as we move. Summer is all about making great memories. Backyard barbecues, road trips, lake days, even just relaxing in a hammock with a good book. Spending time with friends and family, catching sunset views. Those future memories can be stolen from you. It's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain. So here's a thought. Try Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain. It's a doctor-developed formula made with natural ingredients. And unlike pain meds that just mask it, Relief Factor works to reduce, even eliminate, your pain for good. So whether you're spending time at the lake or chasing your kids or grandkids or just enjoying a summer stroll, Relief Factor can help you feel better, move better, and do more of what you love. Reclaim your summer. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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So this, uh, I was, Oh, I was reading this this morning. Actually. It's a huge study that they've done on, uh, uh, because we got headlines here right now. Uh, This landmark study, they were looking at genetic faults, perhaps linked to the related to autism. So they were hoping to develop a new generation of treatments as it pertains to autism. It's Kobe University in Japan. Now, what they studied were mutations associated with the brain's natural maintenance system, this internal process that clears out waste and damaged material, and it allows brain cells to function as they should. Well, they said that when that system fails, then the waste begins to build up inside of nerve cells, and that's what complicates the ability to send and receive cells. So it's very interesting. That's a fascinating study. I'm going to make sure I have that linked in your prep for tomorrow. Thousands of UK university students were caught cheating using AI. Unbelievable. These have been banned from a lot of classrooms. AI has been banned from a lot of classrooms, or computers anyway, because apparently they have been using it, a lot of kids have been using it to write papers and all of this other stuff. And then, of course, there was a teacher, a headlined, made because a teacher actually used AI as a way to cheat in grading papers. How can you cheat in grading papers if you're using AI, though? Isn't that like a tool? Like a teacher apparently got in trouble for it. So I don't know. Anyway, let's see. Also, Alberta's there. They're trying to secede from Alberta. Prime Minister Carney wants to protect national unity. I don't know. After everything that they saw under Trudeau, can you blame anybody for wanting to kind of disassociate from the rest of The rest of their country pizza orders are up around the Pentagon. Washington pizza delivery trackers guess something was up before apparently a secret. The attack that Israel made, remember, against Iran. And I did not know. Think about that, though. Having pizza delivered and you're burning the midnight oil because something big is about to happen. I did. Actually, that makes a lot of sense. Maybe they want to not do that because now anytime there's like an inordinate amount of pizza that's ordered by anyone over at the Pentagon, people are going to be like, what is up? So that's really the way to track to see whether or not something's going to go sideways. What is the pizza delivery like? They said that it's literally an account called the Pentagon Pizza Report. And they said that literally all the establishments, all the pizza establishments nearby the Pentagon had a huge surge in activity right before that attack in Iran by Israel. And they said that, yeah, normally it's like, you know, sometimes it's like pretty low on a weeknight, but it surged that Thursday evening. Super fascinating. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Hollywood is they don't put out anything original. Everything is just like it's all rehash. Right. It is all a rehash of something else, except if you're Angel Studios. Angel Studios, they have a new record breaking animated faith based film called King of Kings. And it's based actually on Charles Dickens' own book, The Life of Our Lord. It's really magical looking. The animation's fabulous. The scoring's great. The all-star voice cast, they have Kenneth Ragnar, who's an Oscar winner, Uma Thurman, Pierce Brosnan, Ben Kingsley. I mean, a powerful cast. And it's great. It got an A-plus cinema score rating, 98% audience rating. It's a record-breaking faith-based film. And it's really well done because, A, it's Dickens, and, B, it's done by people who actually understand how to script and really put out a good film and not drag the story down with hitting too hard. I mean, it's just great. And the animation is brilliant. It's very magical. It has a bit of a Fritz Freeling, in a way, feel to me, just like a very magical kind of animation style. You're going to love it. And when you join the Guild for Angel Studios, you actually get to help participate in which projects are greenlit. So you're shaping the future of entertainment. We have to be proactive in this stuff. Become a premium member of Angel Studios' Guild. And you can watch King of Kings, stream all fan-curated shows and movies, and you get two free tickets to every Angel Studios theatrical release. So visit angel.com today and join over a million Americans taking back control of entertainment. Become a premium Angel Studios Guild member and watch the King of Kings, stream the all fan-curated shows and movies, and get two free tickets to every Angel Studios theatrical release. That's angel.com slash Dana.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Senator Graham, you said you believe it's in America's interest to go all in to help Israel finish the job. It sounds like you mean offensive support.
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So the worst possible outcome for the world is for the Iranian nuclear program to survive after all this. How do you destroy their program? Through diplomacy, I prefer that, or through military action. If diplomacy is not successful, and we left with the option of force, I would urge President Trump to go all in to make sure that when this operation is over, there's nothing left standing in Iran regarding their nuclear program. If that means providing bombs, provide bombs.
SPEAKER 21 :
If that means flying— Busting bombs?
SPEAKER 20 :
Whatever bombs. If it means flying with Israel, fly with Israel.
SPEAKER 13 :
Israel. Lindsey Graham, he has not... I mean, he's the hammer and everything's the nail. First off, welcome back. Dana Lash, bottom of the second hour. I don't even think that you need... The United States doesn't need to do anything like that. I mean, it's our ally, but one of the reasons why they... end up having difficulty with regard to defense is because they listen to all the stupid people in the United States that are like, no, let's be nice. No, if someone hits you and they kill your people, you turn them to ash. It's just my thoughts on it. It's the whole reason why this has continued as long as it does. Because we get into this mission creep of insane defensive strategy where we think that by kissing the toe of the boot that's stepping on your neck, that somehow that's going to make them put less pressure on it. No. That's the reason, honestly, why all of this stuff is happening and it drags on for as long as it does. It's because of this... This overly cautious approach to a problem that has continued for decade after decade after decade after decade after decade. It's just crazy that there are multiple generations now of people who've seen the exact same regime in Iran do the exact same thing for forever. They hit Israel. Israel responded. That's it. I mean, we don't we don't need to get involved beyond any kind of aid or support. And not that Israel has asked. We don't need to just get out of their way and let them do what they do. My gosh. I mean, it was the op that took out the air command in Tehran and so many of these other assets in Iran. That was a master class. They don't they don't need anybody to go in and help them. They can do it. Just get out of their way. We don't need any of these stupid UN Security Council. Oh, it's so mean. No goodness. I mean, this is the same stuff they've been telling Israel since October 7th. There would not be any problem if people just stop being terrorists over there and killing people in Israel. There wouldn't be an issue. But I also will say, and the reason why I say that it's Israeli intelligence about any kind of nuclear capability for Iran is just because I've been hearing this my whole life, right? My whole life. They're about to get it. They're about to get it. And that necessitates this bullish stance. I'm not saying I want to become alliances at all with the mullahs. I would love for a regime change, but that's not for the United States to do. It's for the people to do. They've got to decide to rise up and they have to decide, you know, it's going to be tough and there's probably going to be loss of life. But is that the sacrifice to make this? Is it a worthy sacrifice to make this happen? It's a tough decision. But it's not one that can be instituted by the United States. Totally fine with like aiding, whatever. That's great. But... To get to the United States to get dragged into a conflict with Iran, it makes less sense than for, like, say, the Saudis that have bigger actual beef and proximity with Iran, with Sunni Shia. Conflict. I mean, there's going to be a huge list. I mean, there's a huge list of these generals. You got Hussein Salami. He's the guy who was the IRC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. He was the commander in chief of that. That was a bad guy. He got the chief of staff of their armed forces. You had the commander of their aerospace force. You have all of their deputy intelligence chiefs, their commander of their air defense, their head of their intelligence, their deputy to IRGC intelligence. I mean, it goes on and on and on. And apparently it looks like there's like 20 senior level commanders that have just been wiped off the map. And Al-Khamenei is apparently he's on the move going from place to place to place. One of the reports, and I think this was Wall Street Journal, one of the places that he stayed at one night the day after he left it, that very next evening, it was destroyed in a strike. They're on his heels. They're on his heels. The district where the Ayatollah's family lived was destroyed. Like the building. That's the difference. Israel is going in with targeted strikes and Iran is just targeting civilians. They don't care. That's why they and I think they've lost so much capability. The way that they fire the remaining missiles that they have left their errant, their way where they're not hitting where they're supposed to hit. They get near certain places, but then land in residential areas. One got near our U.S. consulate. But no, we don't need to get involved and commit any kind of boots on the ground or anything like that. I know that that's what Lindsey Graham would love. He's always been that way, though. There's a little bit more audio here. This is... Audio soundbite four. This was Ducey reporting. Now, listen to this. There was a plan. And I have a headline that's going to dovetail into this here after the soundbite. There was a plan to take out their supreme leader. And this was Trump's response per Peter Ducey. Listen, right now. Good afternoon, Peter.
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Good afternoon, Brett. And we can now answer a question that you put to Benjamin Netanyahu that he punted on. A U.S. official is telling us just in the last few minutes since your interview concluded that President Trump did, in fact, in the last couple of days, nix a plan that the Israelis were putting together to assassinate the supreme leader of Iran. So we can put a bow on that as President Trump. prepares to come and join us here in Canada. And he is telegraphing the way that he will frame this fight between Israel and Iran once he meets with the other G7 leaders. Part of a long truth socially says we will have peace soon between Israel and Iran. Many calls and meetings now taking place. I do a lot, never get credit for anything, but that's okay. The people understand. Make the Middle East great again.
SPEAKER 13 :
There's a lot of pressure, too, to have Trump pressure the Israelis in Netanyahu to... come up with some kind of peace agreement between them and Iran. I would not be interested in brokering any kind of peace accord with a nation that also calls the United States the great Satan and would kill all of us in a second. So I don't let Israel do what Israel is going to do. Iran played the wrong hand. We don't have any obligation to broker any kind of peace agreement. We don't have an obligation to do anything. If we want to help our friend over there, we absolutely can. Without committing anything beyond, you know, aid and bombs and all that other stuff. They bought the bombs from us anyway. My gosh, they buy these munitions from us. So it's a capitalist arrangement, Cain. I mean, it would be anti-capitalist not to sell them these things, you know, at a very low price. It would be very anti-capitalist, just saying. But no, nobody wants any kind of United States to enter any kind of conflict at all whatsoever. I mean, really, ultimately, and I went through this last night. I mean, there's not going to be World War III, and I really feel like at this point it seems kind of like now is just the cleanup, right? It's the cleanup at this point that they're doing. This is just tying up some loose ends, and it makes sense. But they want to do it. They want clearly, and especially as the strikes continued all day today, They want to end this. They're also kind of weighing out, well, what if they kind of get some boots on the ground? This is a Wall Street Journal piece where it says Iran has been signaling that it wants to end hostilities and a resumption of talks because they're getting pummeled by the Israeli air campaign. They said that the Iranian counterattacks aren't really inflicting a lot of damage and there's no incentives for Israel to halt attacks. Their assault. And so now they're wondering, well, well, what if we got into a war of attrition and then, you know, maybe that's the way that Israel would be forced to seek some kind of peace agreement. And there some are wondering, well, what is the exit strategy? They just did the Fordow uranium enrichment facility. That's one of the ones apparently that they were attacking, striking. And they were saying that, well, and that's a big one. Apparently that Fordow facility is apparently a large one. We're going to talk more at length about that with Stephen Yates coming up. But. Has Iran signaled, though, in a more public way that they're ready for some sort of negotiation and to come back to the table and stop doing what they were doing? Because the reason that they did that, I mean, day 61, they had 60 days to take this deal and stop enriching uranium and they didn't do it. And I don't like the way that it's presented by the press. Oh, well, those talks were cut short by the attacks. The talks weren't cut short by the attacks. The talks ended because they had 60 days to make up their minds. And it was day 61. And they made their choice by not making up their minds by day 60. They could have indicated to Israel, indicated to the United States, we're not going to seek uranium enrichment anymore. They refused to do it. They absolutely refused. They refused every single offer. Let's not forget who gave them a pallet of cash, by the way. What administration it was under the debt of night that flew over pallets of cash to Iran. Let's not forget. So they made their decision. Nothing was cut short by it. They made their decision. I can't. But for Tehran to signal that they think that Israel might be pressured by a war of attrition is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of. That you can tell that all their military leaders are dead because I don't know who's making these calls right now. That's pretty dumb. And they're not going to be able to do it through their proxies because their proxies are bought and paid for mercenaries. But the moment you stop paying for them, they'll find other people to pay them. I don't know. Nobody's buying it. Nobody's buying it. There's more footage that shows the surface to surface missile launchers. Those got hit. I mean, it's Iran can't withstand this for much longer. In addition to this, there's a few other things. It's been a busy. We've had the Minnesota killer. You also had the new King's. riots, whatever that is. We've had those as well. Uh, it's been a very, it was a very busy weekend. I saw this piece and the way that it was presented in the press, and we're going to talk more about this at the top of our third hour, Minnesota shooting spotlight, growing safety risks facing lawmakers. Remember how I said in the first hour, I am so tired of this language that's being cemented as like reality. This idea that, uh, it's it's uh you know going into politics is dangerous it's a growing risk for lawmakers how about the growing risk of people killing people with whom they agree that typically fall on one side of the political spectrum i'm just sorry i don't buy a guy that is a conservative going out and killing people i just don't when does that happen kane when give me one guy who's been on the right who's been a conservative that's gone out and killed all these people as a political message
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I don't know one.
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All right. So first up, this is it Hunter Biden? Florida men were arrested after a Myrtle Beach hotel staff. They were cleaning the room and somebody left behind their cocaine. Yeah. This was in South Carolina. Two Florida men were convicted on drug charges after a two day trial. Fifty four year old and 50 year old men, both of Fort Pierce, Florida. They were conspiring. They were charged with convicted of conspiring to distribute more than 500 grams of cortisol. crack cocaine. And they said that they were just passing through. And of course, it's never ever their crack cocaine. They also had a small half a kilogram of cocaine as well. They have different varieties, I guess. But they said that the hotel staff, they thought that the room was vacated. And the guys apparently had gone, I guess, gone out. And when they went to go clean the room, they found this grocery bag that had over $30,000 worth of dope in a dresser drawer. You know what? And good on the staff, though, because the staff immediately alerted because they knew what was happening. And they were getting ready to package it and sell it is what it looks like by all accounts. So good for them because who knows? They sound like the type that would sell it to kids. Let's see this. Okay. Let's do the lemonade stand. A Florida man makes it a mission, his mission to take down this 12-year-old's lemonade stand. Tampa Bay Times, 61-year-old Doug Wilkie, he emailed his city hall like four times at least, citing TJ Guerrero's illegal business of selling fresh-baked cookies and lemonade. All of the neighbors, like the whole neighborhood, told the authorities they have zero problem with this. They said it's a little kid who's trying to engage in entrepreneurship, right? And like, for instance, there's all these stories of these kids that are like hit by different municipalities saying you have to pay hundreds of dollars for this. But this this guy, he says that it's illegal, that the 12 year old has no right to do it. You know, no one's making you buy the cookies and lemonade. You douche. Nobody's doing it. Nobody's doing it at all. Uh, but the 12 year old, he, uh, actually it was really smart. He was testing to see what time of day was best to run a stand, you know, what corners in the, in his like subdivision to put the stand at. And he had all the neighbors, uh, permission. The family asked everybody because he wanted to like, he, I mean, that's like a real entrepreneurial spirit, but the guy apparently had a major problem with it. So, uh, and the neighborhood's fighting back. So good for them. Can you imagine being that much of a curmudgeon? Like, No one's making you do it. It's a kid who's who's that's isn't that how a lot of businesses got started back in the day? And this guy's like, well, did you beg the city for permission to do this? He's a 12 year old. Good heavens. By the way, like the blessing of a government certificate is going to make it better. I mean, the same government that allows for the sale of cigarettes and all other kinds of stuff that allowed red dye in food and would still allow it had it not been for a change in the last election. So come on. This is so asinine. People like this. We got people like this in our in our area. And we have we have friends that live in different subdivisions and we hear about this. And it's always I kid you not. It's always some old Democrat. Every time it's some old Democrat that's real mad. There was an old Democrat that got mad because somebody was trying to do a lemonade stand. It was like a little brother and sister. And the neighborhood was like they shut that guy down. But how insane is that?
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I would have never been able to make money mowing lawns as a kid if I had neighbors like this all the time.
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But details matter. It depends on how you ask the question. If you ask the same people, do they think we should maintain due process in the United States of America? The answer is overwhelming, yes. Do DREAMers deserve better than the that they find themselves in overwhelmingly on a bipartisan basis, yes. And so I think it's important to break down three things. Number one, do we need a safe and secure, orderly, humane border? Absolutely. No disagreement there. People seeking to come to the United States, whether it's to seek asylum on work visas, et cetera, We definitely have to modernize that system and be more strategic in those capacities. It depends on how you ask the question. But we can't forget them.
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Dude, what in the world kind of retconning is this? People were literally asked, hey, how do you feel about people coming into the country illegally? And most Americans are like, no, we don't like it. So how would you ask that differently, Senator Stooge? Welcome back to the show. Top of the third hour. Dana Lash with you. That's Alex Padilla. who's doing a media tour. There was a Sunday morning talk show circuit where he was talking about his goofy like interruption of the DHS hearing where they were talking about the riots and the ice clear outs. Because remember, the stuff in Los Angeles kicked off because there was an ongoing ice investigation. Well, a Customs and Border Patrol investigation into a huge money laundering operation run by the cartels. And so they had like a staging area or a little base camp kind of set up near a Home Depot where they were literally investigating the cartels money laundering organization in California in that Los Angeles area. And someone was like, no, they're here to raid Home Depot. And then the media went with it. All the media headlines, oh my gosh, look at this super secret ice camp. They're raiding Home Depot. So they totally screwed up this super long time investigation that they were trying to close out. Ruined that investigation. Made up a whole story about people raiding other people's homes and Home Depots there in L.A. That's how literally all of this got started. All of this got started because of that. That is exactly what happened. Welcome. Again, Dana Lash, top of the third hour. You never, that was never actually told to you though, right? Was it? It was never presented that way. No one talked about that. What about that investigation? That investigation shot. Now think of all the time because I apparently was a couple of years. It was a very long investigation into this whole money laundering op that they were doing. And now that's like all it's been destroyed. All of that shot because, you know, no pun intended, because, yeah, I guess they got found out. And then everyone said they were raiding a Home Depot. You know, if I were the cartels and I wanted to try to upend an investigation against my operation, I would claim that ICE is there to raid the Home Depot and arrest people. And then I would con the media into going with it. And that's, I think, exactly what happened.
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No, that's exactly what happened. But let's assume it's true that they were raiding Home Depot. Are Home Depots like some sort of sanctuary home improvement store?
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No.
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Yeah, exactly. That's my point.
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You're like, yeah.
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That's my point. It's not a sanctuary just because it's Home Depot.
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Right. I mean, it is a man's sanctuary. They do love the Home Depot's.
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I do feel that.
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I do think that there's a certain thing with dudes where they like to go... I like to go into certain... I like the way it smells. I like sawdust. I like the way sawdust and gas smell. And I love going in there and I like... The floors are shiny and it smells like sawdust.
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Is that a Midwest thing? Because I think it is. What do you mean? What is? Like the whole smell of gas and sawdust is like a positive. I don't know. I think that's a Midwest thing.
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I had grandparents that ran a canoe rental and they also had like an N gas pump. But during that summer, I'd smell that gas pump. I'm like, that is summer. That's what summer, that's what freedom smells like. I had no classes. It's summer. I can do whatever I want to. It just kind of reminds me of that. And then I just like the way sawdust smells because it's like there's opportunities there, right? You go in and you smell those Home Depot stores or the Lowe's and you're like, opportunities. I don't know. Just something about it I love. There is nothing more exciting to me. I'm simple where you're like, hey, do you want to get like a diet soda and wander around a Home Depot? Yes, would love to. I'd love to look at all the power tools. I'm not allowed to have because apparently I'm super dangerous with them. But whatever. No, so sexist. Just saying. Also accurate. But whatever. Anyway, so the that's all of that happened. That's how all of it happened. But otherwise, I don't think we have our no kings celebrations on July 4th is when we do our no kings protest. I do think it's interesting that people were protesting about no kings, but how eager they are to make one of themselves. Now, a couple of other things with this. There's a video that just came out. I saw it via Right Scoop. Netanyahu says that Israel is completely uninterested in peace talks with Iran. Go pound sand. By the way, I thought about this on break. The pressure on the administration to get Trump to broker some kind of peace deal. How many times did Iran try to kill Trump, by the way? Did people forget this? How many times did the mullahs try to put out a hit on POTUS? At least once, right? At least one time. And I think Netanyahu said that it wasn't just one time, it was twice, right? that they tried this uh just why would you expect if you're iran what kind of cojones do you have to sit here and call the the president of the united states that you try to murk and demand that they broker a peace agreement between you and israel like what kind of answer do you think you're going to get out of that right i'd be like i wouldn't even take the call I just I think people forget that that that happened. And that's one of the things that was highlighted, too, when by Netanyahu when he was giving his press conference. I mean, they've they've literally at least once they literally like try to assassinate him. We all of these negotiations were dragged out. Remember when they would not even when he was in Vienna and they would not even they wouldn't even they didn't even want us to they didn't want to meet. So I'm not quite sure what... So what if Trump knew about the attack beforehand and aided Israel and... And all of this discussion where they're begging and pleading and trying to put pressure on Trump, they conveniently leave out the fact that they were trying to murk him too. Just saying. So they said they're not... Just stay out of Israel's way. Everybody just needs to stay out of their way and let them clean up the trash. That's it. One senior official said that the... Khamenei is in a difficult mental state because everyone that he worked with and that he would go to for any kind of counsel, they're all dead. They're all dead. They haven't been replaced yet. hmm it's a real bummer isn't it bummer for him real bummer for that one that supreme so-called leader real bummer so now the other news headline that came out just literally while i pulled this up we were on break so potus so when he got to g7 and we have steven yates coming up we're going to talk to him about all of this when he um When he arrived at the G7 summit, there was apparently a statement, a joint statement drafted that was calling, according to numerous news reports here, for de-escalation between Israel and Iran, and they wanted him to sign it. And it was presented to him. This is according to people kind of like talking to the press about this. It was presented to him and it was spearheaded by European officials at the summit. I think Carney signed on to it and they were saying, oh, yes, Israel has a right to defend itself. But Iran cannot obtain a nuclear weapon and they need to immediately, you know, they we need to have peace, etc. Trump did not sign, did not sign the statement. Because he and now everyone's like, oh, there's an immediate divide between Trump and his counterparts. Oh, what a way. You know, they're in Canada, the summit. Oh, it's already there's already division. Yeah, they had drafted up an agreement that they just wanted him to sign. demanding and of course it's always you know the the onus is always on uh israel to somehow pick up the slack for it to de-escalate uh no so he said he was not going to sign it the reading it said it was emmanuel macron of course uh frederick maersk who's the german chancellor uh kirstarmer over uh from britain they wanted to uh cement or finalize this consensus among these world leaders about this situation and mark carney's hosting it and no trump's like no i'm not signing it i'm not going to sign this why and why would he did these leaders not again going back to my original question do they do they know that the mullahs had tried twice to kill him there are two assassination plots two And so why should he intervene? Why should he be prevailed upon to intervene or resolve anything? Why is everyone they just don't want to allow Israel to just do what Israel needs to do and be done with it? Why do they always try to intervene and make this worse and drag it out every time? Every time. Trump told reporters that he says that he believes Iran wishes to de-escalate. But it also sounds like he's putting it all on them. He goes, he said they'd like to talk, but they should have done it before. I had 60 days. They had 60 days. I said on day 61, we don't have a deal and they got to make a deal. They're not winning this war. They should talk before it's too late. I mean, are they going to listen to him now? Instead of having a de-escalation tour, why aren't these leaders drafting a letter demanding that Iran come to the table and talk about Iran's ceasefire and Iran's de-escalation and Iran stopping this to seek uranium enrichment? Why is that not a letter that they're proposing? Because that's at the heart of it. They don't want to stop enriching uranium and pursuing nuclear proliferation. So there's your statement. They can come to the table and they can say, we will stop this. And then you can have these other G7 leaders sign it. But that's never an option for these people. No, we would like for them to continue the status quo. It's all of you that needs to sign. No, I think POTUS was right to not sign this. And the other issue, too, is apparently Putin. And I told you this. This is like our first hour. It's kind of being a mediator between Iran and Trump. And Trump is like, yeah, I'm not going to. That's fine. You can do that. But they're still wrong. And Macron dismissed the idea saying that, oh, well, this is Moscow's Moscow's violating some regulations by being a peace broker. I don't think they're being a peace broker. I don't think that just there's I don't think that Iran is able to just call up the United States. So they're trying to get Russia to do it. We're going to talk about the G8 and now G7 because after Crimea in 2014, it was Trudeau and Obama that pushed out Russia and it became G7. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh my gosh, this headline is like my worst nightmare. Oh my gosh, this is so gross. Okay. Kings Island visitors, according to Lexington Channel 18. I've just got chills. They're warned to keep their mouths closed on amusement park rides because of cicadas. Oh, my gosh. Brood 14 is out and about in Mason, bringing some invited guests to the tri-state's biggest attractions. So, Kings Island in Mason, Ohio, the roller coasters, people are literally, like, the workers are telling people on the roller coasters, keep your mouths quiet on the rides. Or you're closed on the rides, I mean, because you're going to get a cicada in your mouth. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Mmm. No. Oh, why is this so gross? Oh, they said that they've been emerging a little later in some places. So, yeah. I mean, I love the sound of cicadas. Don't like them flying in my mouth if I'm on an amusement park ride. See, you don't have to worry about getting flung off the coaster or the coaster getting stuck. You have to worry about now eating a cicada on the ride. Right after this. This is a timely. Mouth tape. Mouth tape is apparently making a big comeback. It's a billion dollar industry. It's a billion dollar industry. Mouth tape. But experts are like, this is stupid because your mouth and your throat work together while you sleep. So don't do this. I don't. Okay, I'm going to also come out with some mouth tape. It's just literally going to be duct tape. It's going to be called the Kidnapper's Friend. It's for aiding you while you sleep. If you need that while you sleep or if you're riding a roller coaster in Mason, Ohio with the cicadas, you can use my Kidnapper's Friend mouth tape. It's a great product that we should add to our fake storefront. Kidnapper's Mouth Tape. That's a good one. All right, so this is the dumbest thing ever. The Van Gogh chair. It's not a thing about Van Gogh. It's something that somebody decided to make and name it after Van Gogh. So it is, what is it, like a crystal chair? It's a chair covered in crystals. And in this museum, the museum urges people to, you know, they're like, oh, yes, you respect the art, etc. There was a chair on the wall. It's in Verona. A chair sitting on the floor by the wall. And a woman pretends to sit down. Then a man actually puts his weight on the chair and it breaks it and then they run away. It's all caught on CCTV, though. They dashed out of the room. It's a chair designed by an Italian artist studded with four crystals. It's got the fancy crystals on it. And the guy said, why would you sit in the chair, though? If I fits, I sits. That's what that guy thought. If I fits, I sits.
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People are suspecting that this was an American tourist, but the story itself doesn't actually specify.
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I bet they were British. Yeah, I bet they were British. I'm just saying. But now they're like, oh, it's the Van Gogh chair. It's damaged. But it's just a chair that somebody named the Van Gogh chair. So, you know, nobody needs to get their britches in a twist. Let's see. A mother is roasted for naming her daughter after a tragic event that shocked the world. The daughter, Chernobyl Hope. Chernobyl hope. Oh my gosh, no.
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Is it hope for another Chernobyl or hope that Chernobyl doesn't happen again?
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I look forward to that. The G7 used to be the G8. Barack Obama and a person named Trudeau didn't want to have Russia in. And I would say that that was a mistake because I think you wouldn't have a war right now if you had Russia in. And you wouldn't have a war right now if Trump were president four years ago. But it didn't work out that way. But it used to be the G8. And now it's, I guess, what's that, nine years ago, eight years ago, it switched over there. They threw Russia out, which I claimed was a very big mistake, even though I wasn't in politics then. I was very loud about it. It was a mistake in that you spend so much time talking about Russia that he's no longer at the table. So it makes life more complicated. But you wouldn't have had the war.
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A little a little correction there, because I will say that Russia was kicked out of G8. And it became G7 after the annexation of Crimea. And that was before Trudeau. But I get his point, though. I mean, I get what he's saying. And I'm not discussing, you know, I'm not saying I agree with it, but I understand what he's saying. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. Joining us now, man about the world, our very good friend, Mr. Stephen Yates, who was an advisor, not one, but two presidential administrations, senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation as well. You can find him on X at Yates Coms. I just kind of wanted to get... Because I've been reading all these headlines that sound like Putin was being prevailed upon by the mullahs to try to get Trump to get Israel to agree to peace. And I just don't know why Iran would expect Trump, who apparently was the target of not one but two of their assassination attempts, to feel like he owes them anything with regards to structuring some kind of peace agreement. But I also kind of wanted to get your thoughts, too, on the whole thing with the G8. It didn't seem like he was saying that he wanted Russia to be in it. I don't know why he brought that up. And it's always good to see you. We have so much to throw at you today. So sorry.
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Well, first on the G numbers, I was not a fan of Russia being made a formal member of the G7, making it a G8. In general, the higher the number after the G, the more worthless the gathering is. And so there's a G20, which is at least twice as worthless as the G7. And so I thought that was a mistake. The idea that you integrate Russia in and somehow it moderates their behavior, obviously it didn't stop them from doing what they did with Crimea. And so I understand what Trump is doing. And I like the guy and I support a lot of the policy. reasons, but the G7, G8 was the least of the reasons that Russia reinvaded Ukraine. And the G7 also includes Japan. And I don't think any of what he was saying would apply to the U.S.-Japan alliance. So I like the Prez. I like that he disrupts these G meetings. But that G7, G8 thing was a little bit of a tangent for me.
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Yeah, I agree. Also, with regard to everything with Iran and Israel, we keep hearing everyone say, are we going to get into World War III? You can correct me on this if you think I'm wrong. I don't think that we would. And I go back to when you had the regime change in Syria, and you had Bashar al-Assad, who seemed very... amenable to Iran. And now we have, I guess, the lesser of the doubles, this former reform jihadi guy who's now over there. But the interesting thing is they closed the airspace from what was reported. So now Iran has no help from Syria, from their defense. They can't use their airspace. Then you had Israel hitting at Hezbollah and really decimating Hezbollah. And there were a lot of it seems like when you look back now, There were a lot of things leading up to create this window of opportunity if, based on Israel's intel, everything was as, you know, as it is for them to strike when they did. And I kind of wanted to get your thoughts on that. And I just don't see this escalating. I don't think Iran can do anything else.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, there's a lot to take from this, but I would also be very careful to draw too many conclusions while things are relatively fresh. This is a little bit like the shock and awe part of the Iraq War, and there is no talk of... Anyone going in and trying to remake Iran in our own image, so I don't think there's any repeat of that going on here But Iran still has a lot of weapons. It's expensive to keep these air defenses up more things could land So I would just be careful about this being sort of a one-lap victory at the same time Israel has done what most of the world said couldn't be done. And I think you're right that a lot went into this. The Abraham Accords was a massive step in the right direction to make these risks lower. The president's visit to the Middle East, with major visits with Arab nations, with big commitments to the United States, that was a major investment in mitigating these kinds of risks. And so as much as China and Russia might have looked at the U.S. and its allies being in decline, I think that if Israel is able to do this much to Iran, these big bad powers probably want to hit the pause button before they think they're ready to bite more than they can chew. And hopefully... That's the rationality that comes out of this, because Israel has done a significant amount of damage to Iran's aspirations.
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Do you think that Iran now being in BRICS is something that could benefit them or help kind of bail them out of this situation at this point? I think I don't know. I mean, I realize that it's mainly just, you know, economics and trade, et cetera, and all of that. But still, I mean, is that significant to you?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's not terribly significant to me other than we've known that the bad guys help the bad guys out and that they will help them avoid sanctions. There's energy revenues that can sustain these bad authoritarian sticky regimes. I think the big question mark right now with Iran is with a lot of the military having been decapitated, some of the political leadership having been decapitated, is there any kind of real change there? possible or in the not-too-distant future in Iran. And if it begins to move to a non-Mullah-led kind of government, then the bricks are irrelevant. And then it really is a pretty substantial blow to the idea that there's this condominium that's going to balance against the bad old United States under the bad old Trump. And so we can't know where this is going. For now, they have a severely weakened ally that I think has been embarrassed and decapitated in some ways. And so they may want to maybe keep their arms length. You know, defeat has a bad odor and they don't really want that on them.
SPEAKER 13 :
We're talking with our friend Stephen Yates, if you're just joining us at Yatescoms. He's a foreign policy expert, man about the world. You mentioned the people, too, of Iran. And I remember during the Green Revolution, we've talked about it before, the IRCG, they had You know, these these people on their members on rooftops and they sniped Nita Sultan. And that was the girl and her dad. She just their car was approaching an intersection where there was a protest. She wasn't even part of it, but was mistakenly assumed such. And she was killed on a live stream video that went around the world. A lot of people rose up after that. But the the rising up by the people was not successful against their against the regime. Do you think that this time is different?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, there is one part that's different. I mean, the Obama administration really did nothing to make sure that communications were sustained during that Green Revolution. It really raised a lot of questions whether they were for the Green Revolution happening or whether they rather to make a deal with the bad government that they knew. This time around, there were quick messages and Elon Musk quickly made sure that Starlink was on. That meant that those that mean when the regime wanted to shut things off again that they couldn't cut off the iranian people i have not seen video like we saw out of the green revolution we'll see what happens after the initial shock and explosions of the the current conflict kind of settled down but at least this time there is unfettered access to information And that is at least a hopeful foundation to see if there's a better future for the Iranian people. I mean, it's easy to forget, but people really should look at those videos that show Iran prior to the radical revolution. It was a modern place. It was an attractive place. It was one of the more prosperous and interesting parts of the broader Middle East. And so, you know, they can go back to that if they throw off this toxic evil regime.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. China has they condemned the I guess the way that the way that they present it is I guess they forget that Iran actually bypassed the Houthis and their regular third proxy when they had struck Israel. Israel responds. I think it's weird that. because they took some time to get their response right, that that somehow means they should forfeit a defensive response, which was weird to me. And that seems to be the way that China is coming to this because they're condemning actions by Israel, but not with Iran. Where is China with all of this? Because they're that weird partner that, you know, it looks like Russia is kind of moving away from it, but China hasn't yet.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, I hope that China continues to talk about these kinds of things because I think it's sobering up some of our allies in the Middle East, the Abraham Accords countries in particular, including Israel, that had hedged their bets over the years on what kind of interactions to have with China, what kind of markets to seek, what kind of technologies they might have connections to China about. And this really should end it altogether for Israel, but really for the Arab states, too. And so I hope China keeps talking because their nonsense isn't going to sell well. But really, they are tied in with the bad regimes and that network, and there isn't any escape for them on that. That's what Xi Jinping did, doubling down on this this sort of triangle of do no gooders at best. They thought that that was an axis that was going to push back against a failing West. And so they own it.
SPEAKER 13 :
I wanted to ask you about switching gears, but still with China, but looking exclusively at this trade deal, because the president established some kind of at least preliminary trade agreement with China, where we still have a percentage that benefits us. They've got, I think, what, 10 percent, but One of the things that apparently is also involved is allowing Chinese students to come to our colleges and universities, which I was under the impression that if they were allowed to come to our colleges and universities, they had to report back to the CCP, like they had to be people in good standing with the CCP. And I remember Rubio had put out a post on X stating that, you know, we're not going to allow it was like a moratorium on visas, student visas for Chinese students. Where does this stand? And and You know, after the issue with the drones being launched into in Iran, this worries me. The CCP on farmland by military bases worry me. I think our big defensive position against China is not being met in this preliminary agreement. And I wanted to get your thoughts.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, this is just another area where I really like the president and the policies, but I don't see things exactly the same. And we don't really know how much is shaping the information environment in order to get negotiations to a better resting place or a finish line. And I'll give them some grace on that front. But when it comes to the number of Chinese students, I mean, really, it's just wildly out of balance. There are so many more coming our way, not so many of ours going there. And it really is what are they studying? And it's you can't just sort of put them all in one basket. It matters if they come from some kind of a military institute or it matters if they're studying nuclear physics or. or some kind of telemetry and advanced mathematics. We shouldn't be training up a generation of people who can and will use that knowledge against us in a material way. And we look at even the research labs on agriculture and medical areas. They've been irresponsible and haven't been accountable on COVID, so don't have them. in the most advanced medical research fields. And so I'm not a fan of this painting everybody with one brush, but unless and until you have some kind of a system to vet who these people are and you limit it to some reasonable quantity that could be vetted, then I think it's irresponsible. And I think that Senator Rubio, now Secretary Rubio, had the right formula. It's a privilege to be here, not a right. And you have to make sure that the behavior of these people is consistent with our goals. And if not, bye bye.
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly. I think well said. Agreed, too. This is one of those days where we need a full hour with you on here because there's so much to cut through. We're out of time today. But Stephen Yates, always such a pleasure. Glad that you've been traveling safely and always appreciate your insight into this and for setting everything straight. Good to see you, my friend. Have a great rest of your week and happy Father's Day. Happy belated Father's Day.
SPEAKER 03 :
Much appreciated, Dana. Take good care.
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And you can also sign up for the newsletter over at Substack, chapter and verse. A lot of good stuff that goes out of there regularly. A lot of good pieces that have been following all of this breaking news. So make sure that you go and sign up. And you can also find us over at YouTube and Facebook. I was reading this story how airline attendants, when they greet you, they're greeting you for a purpose. Do you know that? They're not just saying like hello for no reason or to be polite. Yeah. It's usually to check to see if you're too drunk or sick to fly. But what if you're a situational extrovert? And if someone greets you, your immediate response is to overshare and talk incessantly because you don't know how to handle just like a small greeting. I'm not saying that I do that. at all even in the slightest maybe not at all but you know like whatever they're like hello and you're like hi how are you i just don't what do you do like how do you agree if when you get on a plane and they're like hello or good afternoon what do you say to them kane what do you do in response now you're being tested you know you're being tested hi good to see you that's it is it good to see you i don't care if it's true this is just the standard greetings See, that's it. I cannot stand. I don't want to say it if it's not true. It's a flight attendant person. It's not really good to see somebody I don't know, right? Like, I don't care.
SPEAKER 11 :
I see people I don't know all the time and nod and wave and say hi. What's the big deal?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, that's fine. But yeah, be like, oh, it's so good to see you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, that's a little much, I guess.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that's a lot.
SPEAKER 11 :
But they're kind of paid to say that to you. So you kind of mirror that back.
SPEAKER 13 :
They're judging you right as you get on the plane. They're measuring you. Like, is this person a terrorist? Thanks for flying with us today. Is this person drunk or sick?
SPEAKER 11 :
Good to see you. And you're like, yeah, good to see you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Look at you. Unless you're trying to get extra snacks, then you would probably lay it on thick, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Actually, you know what? Now that I think about it, I got... You know, what are those Biscoff cookies? Those...
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, you can't ask it right as you get on the plane.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, you can't, but you set it up by being that friendly. That's how you do it.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's like his whole approach. He's laying the groundwork to get those extra cookies. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it makes sense because they're like the first point of contact, so it makes sense. Okay, I'm almost out of time. Today's stupidity.
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Cut 15, Juan. Cut 15. This is Representative Eric Fartswell. This is what he said gaseously out of his mouth.
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Donald Trump is America's Hitler.
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Wow. It's like he's never said that before.
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Everybody don't like Hitler. My gosh, that guy, folks, does it for us today. I will be back behind the mic with you tomorrow. Find us Facebook, YouTube, like and subscribe. Have a great night.

In this riveting episode of Washington Watch, host Tony Perkins takes us deep into the heart of the unfolding Middle East crisis, where Israel's bold military maneuvers against Iran have grabbed global attention. With in-depth interviews featuring key political figures such as Senator Kevin Cramer and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, we explore the motivations and ramifications of Israel's strategic decisions. From the concerns about Iran's nuclear ambitions to the international community's varied responses, Tony delves into the complex geopolitical landscape to offer listeners a comprehensive view of what's at stake.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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So we had to act. It was the 12th hour. We did act to save ourselves, but also, I think, to not only protect ourselves, but protect the world from the this incendiary regime. We can't have the world's most dangerous regime have the world's most dangerous weapons.
SPEAKER 14 :
That was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday on Fox News. Welcome to this Monday, June 16th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. We'll get an update from Jerusalem on the expanding conflict between Israel and Iran a little later in the program when we're joined by CBN's Chris Mitchell. And on Friday, Iran's permanent representative to the United Nations, Amir Saeed Irvani, had this to say about the conflict.
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Israel has openly claimed responsibility, and it is done so with the active support of a permanent member of the Council, the United States. This aggression constitutes a declaration of war.
SPEAKER 14 :
A declaration of war. We'll get reaction and analysis from North Dakota Senator Kevin Cramer, who joins us momentarily. And the House is out this week back in their districts for District Work Week, but the Senate is in session. So we'll check on the status of what President Trump has called that one big, beautiful bill. We'll check in with Senator Cramer on the status of that. And continuing on the topic of Iran.
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The regime has the weapons. They have what they call the Basij. It's their local law enforcement. They are brutal. But often these regimes fall in a moment just like this one. And I think what Israel has undertaken in these last 24 hours increases the likelihood that the Iranian people will see sunlight and goodness and not be covered in tyranny as they have been since 1979.
SPEAKER 14 :
That was former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. I'll share more of a conversation I had with him over the weekend about what might lie ahead for Iran. And I'll also share my thoughts on how we should be responding to what is unfolding in the Middle East. All of that and possibly a bit more on this Monday edition of Washington Watch. And by the way, Washington Watch is made possible by people like you who support the work of the Family Research Council. This program receives no government funding, only contributions from listeners like you. And right now, through June the 30th, your impact can actually be doubled thanks to a $1.5 million challenge match. Now, this limited time opportunity was made available by some generous supporters who want to encourage others to join in this effort to make sure that we can have news and commentary from a biblical perspective. So if you contribute between now and June 30th, your contribution will be doubled. So to partner with us, simply text the word FAMILY. That's FAMILY to 67742. FAMILY to 67742. And we'll send you a link to partner with Washington Watch. The Israeli military is advancing Operation Rising Lion. Earlier today, the IDF struck what is identified as a communications center used for military purposes by the Iranian armed forces. Reports indicate the target was an Iranian state broadcasting station that was live on air at the time of the strike. Not long afterward, Israel intercepted another barrage of Iranian missiles. Joining us now with insights on these developments is U.S. Senator Kevin Cramer of North Dakota. He serves on four Senate committees, including the Armed Services Committee. Senator Cramer, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. My pleasure. Thank you, Tony. Senator, I know you're a strong supporter of Israel. We've talked about the situation in the Middle East multiple times. Your reaction to what has unfolded in the last few days?
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Well, first of all, my reaction to Israel taking this step is you had to do it. They had to do it. Nobody is on the clock quite like Israel when it comes to the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran. So I don't blame them a bit for doing it. I'm grateful to see President Trump's strong support for it. I'm equally grateful, Tony, to see that we haven't risked any human lives, American lives, in the effort. That said, Israel has to know that we have their backs. The other thing that's, I think, I don't want to say necessarily surprising, but the magnitude of it is, in that Israel has been immensely effective in their attacks, they had a very specific and have a very specific plan, a very specific strategy. They took out the ground-to-air missile system, the air defenses over Iran, and now they're just flying wherever they want and have... have complete control of the skies over Iran. And it's so impressive that I've got to believe that there are a lot of frenemies and enemies in the Middle East and throughout the world looking at that and knowing that those are F-16s, F-35s, F-15s, and other great American technology and thinking, these guys are better at this than we thought. So I think it's good for peace throughout the world.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I would agree with you. And I would add to that, Senator Kramer, that Israel did this and they initiated this on their own. I know that there was some hesitancy and they had been waiting because I think they wanted to do it in concert with the United States. The United States, you know, maybe doing some, well, it's not clear what, if anything, the United States is doing yet. I know we have resources moving that way. And as you pointed out, it's American equipment. But this was the Israeli defense system. the IDF, the Air Force, that did this. And the world has to be taking note of this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I would sure think so. I know I am, and I think the United States is. But certainly the region is, Tony, and this is what's so impressive to me. When you look back to when even Barack Obama, or even go all the way back to Jimmy Carter, when the back and forth between peace through strength policies of Republicans and acquiescence and... just sort of throwing up your hands, if you will, by Democrats going back to Jimmy Carter. We finally have a moment, I believe, when you've seen diplomacy work under President Trump's first term sets the stage, granted with four years off, but then sets the stage for what's happening now. And I just think that the freedom-loving, civilized Arab world is looking at this going, yep, we want to be with these guys over here, not those guys over there. And isolating Iran this way I think has tremendous benefit for peace in the region.
SPEAKER 14 :
So did the Israeli military intelligence suggest that the window of opportunity was closing and that's why they had to move now?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that's really clear. When you had, of course, the 60-day negotiating period that Donald Trump had initiated and that ran out, when you had the International Atomic Energy Commission Council saying, wait a minute, these guys are out of compliance, and this is the United Nations saying this, as you know, and then Intel saying that they have as much as maybe nine bombs worth of enriched uranium, they clearly couldn't wait any longer for their own good. While others were more patient, including the United States, Israel understandably had to take matters into their own hands and demonstrated that they're more than capable of doing that.
SPEAKER 14 :
What would you say is victory coming out of this? What does that look like?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so that's a really important question, Tony. I just don't think you can leave the regime in place at this point. At this point, you've poked the bear so hard that if you leave the bear there, you're probably always going to have to look over your shoulder. The other thing is, I think they have to take out Bordeaux. I just think whether it's them or whether it's the United States, and God knows the last thing the American people want is for us to engage in another war, but But I think you have to remove all capabilities, use of nuclear weapons capabilities. And the only way to do that is to take it all out literally, physically with bombs. Now, if in the short term here, the Iranian leadership says we give up, we'll step down, and then we encourage and back the freedom-loving Iranian people, that would be great. I just don't see that happening.
SPEAKER 14 :
I agree with you. I don't see that happening either. President Trump saying that a deal is possible, you know, maybe a deal to dismantle what's left of their nuclear system, but that would leave the regime in place just to fight another day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and that really concerns me. I mean, given the history of that regime, I just think that would be discouraging to the Iranian people, most of whom, the vast majority of whom, are very pleased with what they're seeing right now and hopeful. And, you know, we've led them to this point, not quite like this, but other times when they thought the United States had their back. I think of Barack Obama, who basically left the freedom-loving demonstrators of Iran just holding the bag. And I just think... At this point, you can't leave the regime there.
SPEAKER 14 :
One final question on this before we move to issues taking place in the Senate. I know you agree with this, that peace through strength. And given what Israel has demonstrated in the last few days, of course, we're not there to the final aspects of this yet. But I would think that this could bring peace in the Middle East by the sheer show of their strength.
SPEAKER 04 :
there's no question it's a deterrent. I mean, everybody in the region's got to be thinking, oh my goodness, let's not go up against these guys. The other thing that it does is it paves the way for the civilized Arab world to continue to come toward the values of the West. I don't expect that there's going to be, you know, evangelism is going to take Christian evangelism in the Arab world. However, I do think there are a lot of people in the region that are Grateful to see Iran being isolated like this. And I think their courage to join us and to join the Arab, the Abraham Accords and other more normalized relationships is really good for the country and for the world and certainly for that region.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and for the Iranian people. I mean, we're praying for the success of Israel and for the freedom of the Iranian people that have been under the repression of this regime. Senator, I want to switch to the reconciliation bill, President Trump's one big, beautiful bill. That's now over in the Senate. The deadline that was set was the July 4th break. Are we going to make it? How's it looking?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think it's possible, Tony. And of course, I'm eternally optimistic. But as you know, this week now, the entire first draft, if you will, of the bill, the entire text is pretty well done. And the Democrats are looking at it. The parliamentarians are going through it. They're looking for... those birdable things that they're scrubbing it through the birdbath to make sure that it's not policy, but solely revenue and spending, as you know that we have these wonky rules in the Senate. So we're going through that right now. I think probably the most encouraging thing is that Republican senators have been meeting together for hours every day, apart from everybody else, And including tonight, by the way, we have a vote here in a few minutes, and then we're going to have dinner together as Republican senators for a couple of hours and go through the text and listen to particularly the tax piece of it, Tony. That's really the heart of this whole thing. In fact, it was up to me. We would have done just the tax piece. a long time ago and it'd be law right now while we discuss other things, but that's not the route that was chosen. So yeah, we're rolling up our sleeves and working the long hours to fine tune it. We have to get something that 50 people will vote for, as you know, that's the trickiest part. But I think if Speaker Johnson could get one more than a no out of as many as 430 some, we ought to be able to do that as senators by the 4th of July.
SPEAKER 14 :
Senator Cramer, you mentioned the speaker. He's been very clear about warning about too many tweaks could create problems when it comes back over to the House. Do you foresee any sticking points at this time?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's a great question. I think we're going to find more, frankly, more spending cuts. I know that won't break your heart. And we have a rescissions package in front of us now that the House passed by one vote as well that I'm sure it really breaks your heart that we're going to maybe defund NPR and public broadcasting. But having said that, I We're gonna make it better. Plain and simple, we're gonna make the tax cuts permanent. The SALT thing is probably one of the stickier things, but Tony, at the end of the day, this bill is gonna be good enough that where if you voted for it in the House before, there's no reason for you not to vote for it this next time, because then you're given a binary choice. Is it better to pass it or not? And at that point, I think that the House will pass it as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, now is the time, if not now, when? When do we right this ship of state? Senator Kramer, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate your leadership on Capitol Hill.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Tony. My pleasure. And I appreciate your witness and your ministry there. Thank you very much.
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All right, folks, coming up next, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
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THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. THE MORNING AFTER ISRAEL LAUNCHED OPERATION RISING LION, FORMER U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE I want to share a part of that interview in which we discussed what history shows us about the risk of regime changes, although that's certainly something people would like to see in terms of Iran and the future is a change of this Islamic regime. We need to do so with our eyes wide open. How do we prepare for that? Well, here is that conversation. So let's talk about what a regime change looks like, because history would tell us a vacuum is filled by something. And we've been a part of seeing regime changes before, only to end up with a situation that's even worse.
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Tony, there's definitely that risk. I think you started your segment in exactly the right place with prayer. We should pray that the Iranian people are able to overthrow this regime in a way that delivers them a good outcome, that it doesn't just end up in the hands of the IRGC thugs or it doesn't end up in the hands of someone who's even worse. The Iranian people have a long history. This is an amazing nation with deep Persian culture and talented engineers and a school system that is quite capable. These are people who have the capacity to build out a society where people can worship in the way they want and with leadership that gives space and freedom for commerce and wealth creation and all the things that we want for them. We need to do all that we can to assist the Iranian people in achieving that objective. We know that this vacuum will get filled. We ought to do everything we can to work to make sure it's filled by those who no longer want to threaten the destruction of the nation of Israel.
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You were very clear about this messaging when you were Secretary of State that our beef is not with the Iranian people. It is with the regime that is repressive. How volatile is the structure of Iran when it comes to the people? What would it take to see a regime change? Are we at that threshold level right now, given what Israel is doing?
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Tony, history would teach us that one of the things we can never predict is when regimes like this will fall. I was a young soldier in Germany in 1989, and one day everybody woke up and the Soviet Union had begun its collapse. So you don't know when that moment will be. I must say, If you're a parent of a young girl in Iran, and you see what happened overnight, and you see that the trillions of dollars in sanctions against the regime, the billions of dollars spent on weapons systems delivered literally nothing for you, and indeed, even worse, continued to oppress you, you must be thinking, can I find friends and partners? Can I find other citizens in my town, in my community, whether you're in Ashfahan or Kermanshah or wherever you may be, and find a path forward that is fundamentally different? The challenge is that the regime has the weapons. They have what they call the Basij. It's their local law enforcement. They are brutal. But often these regimes fall in a moment just like this one. And I think what Israel has undertaken in these last 24 hours increases the likelihood that the Iranian people will see sunlight and goodness and not be covered in tyranny as they have been since 1979.
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To facilitate this, what should be the next steps that the United States takes?
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Oh, really, three things. One, we've got to make sure we keep our folks safe. So the first step is to make sure we've got postured correctly. I think President Trump has done really good work these last days putting the weapons systems in the theater so that we can do just that. Second, I've heard some leaders in the United States Senate Democrats say that this attack was reckless. That's a mistake. what would have been reckless is to allow iran to continue down the path towards a nuclear weapon and now that's not going to happen and so the second piece of this is we should continue to support our ally israel and make sure that we provide at least the tacit support necessary so that they can do what's needed there inside of iran for the days and weeks ahead the political pressure to stop israel will start today at the u.n and continue in the days ahead for sure And then finally, we should make very clear that when the moment is right, we will support the Iranian people in their effort. We will provide the tools and resources necessary so that Iranian regime that has fallen is followed by a set of leaders inside of Iran that the Iranian people actually desire and want. And that'll be a really good outcome if we can assist in all three of those ways.
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You mentioned the United Nations, longtime critic of Israel. It seems to be they exist just to harass Israel almost. But timing is everything in an operation like this. And just watching the body language of the prime minister and others and seeing the shuttling back and forth, I knew the window they saw, as you made reference to earlier, was closing. But this week, the IAEA, for the first time in 20 years, finding and actually issuing a resolution that Iran was noncompliant in their nuclear program, their nonproliferation obligations. This should somewhat, I would think, muffle the international community because this is, I mean, this is certainly, the International Atomic Energy Agency is not a puppet of Israel. So I would think that this might help when we talk about that window of opportunity.
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It probably does help, Tony, but make no mistake about it. The UN has become anti-Israel, indeed anti-Semitic over the last decade in ways that it just simply was not before. Israel loses just about every vote at the UN General Assembly, and of course, on the UN Security Council, two of Iran's partners, The Chinese Communist Party and Russia sit to veto anything that the United States might want to do at the Security Council level. So I agree. The wording from the sanctions from the IAEA was important. They are a neutral inspection body that does really good verification work. And they came to see that Iran was not complying with its obligations under international law. That is helpful. I doubt it changes many minds at the United Nations, Tony. It saddens me to say that, but I suspect it's true.
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Final question for you, Mr. Secretary. I know we're focused on Iran. We're focused on Israel. Oftentimes, though, when you get tunnel vision into one area of the world, something else might happen. Where else should we be watching right now?
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We've had in the last weeks conflict in Pakistan and India, still very unsettled in other parts of the Middle East as well. We shouldn't forget what's happening in Gaza today. Trying to get humanitarian assistance in there has proven incredibly difficult. And then I'll bet President Zelensky was watching last night as well. Both he and the Israelis were able to smuggle drones inside another sovereign nation and launch them with deep attacks in a clandestine way. The Russians and the Chinese are partners of Iran. Iran is clearly the loser here. And so I'm guessing that Xi Jinping is rethinking how deep a partnership to have with Iran. That is another good feature of what the Israelis have accomplished.
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Mike Pompeo, it's always great to talk to you, my friend. I greatly appreciate your contribution to our country. And thank you for continuing to serve and provide insight and understanding. Thank you, Tony. Bless you. Have a great day. That was part of my conversation with former U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on my weekend program this week on Capitol Hill. All right, stick with us. We'll be back with more Washington Watch after this break.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in. I've been asked repeatedly, how should we interpret and respond to the unfolding events in the Middle East, particularly in light of some high profile voices within so-called conservatism, encouraging President Trump to adopt a more isolationist stance? Let me say this. It is in America's vital interest to stand with Israel, especially now, as the Middle East undergoes a tectonic shift which may alter the geopolitical landscape for generations to come. As a Marine veteran, I'm not a hawk. I don't believe America should be the world's policeman, nor do I support endless foreign wars. But retreating into isolation is not a strategy. It's a gamble with consequences we cannot afford. A global leadership vacuum will not remain unfilled. It will be occupied by regimes hostile to freedom and democracy. To cede that space is not only naive, it is dangerously short-sighted. Now, I'm thankful that Israel did not wait on America before acting on their military intelligence that the window of opportunity to eliminate the existential threat poised by Iran's nuclear program was closing. And so they acted. Tehran's ambitions have never been hidden. For decades, the leaders of the Islamic Republic have vowed to eradicate the Jewish state. In December 2000, Iran's supreme leader called Israel, quote, a cancerous tumor that should be removed. In August 2012, then President Ahmadinejad declared, quote, any freedom lover and justice seeker in the world must do its best for the annihilation of the Zionist regime, end quote. Now, that's not rhetoric to be ignored. You know, Jesus said in Matthew 15, 18, those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart. You know, we would do well to take that admonition seriously. And history teaches this lesson. The world dismissed Adolf Hitler's speeches as the ravings of a madman. The result, a global war that killed an estimated 70 to 85 million people. America didn't enter that war until it was attacked at Pearl Harbor, yet our delay came at great cost. The Jewish people in particular have learned that when an ideologically driven regime threatens to destroy them, they cannot afford to wait. They must act or risk annihilation. I was present in the U.S. House chamber both in 2015 and 2024 when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed joint sessions of Congress. In both speeches, he warned not only of Iran's threat to Israel, but of its broader threat to the United States and the entire free world. And he was right. Last week, Israel acted, reportedly with a tacit nod from Washington, to prevent Iran from reaching nuclear capability. The final outcome is yet to be seen, but I am confident in Israel's ultimate success, not because of American weaponry or military aid, but because of Israel's increasing reliance on God. That is a far more dependable ally than any modern nation. Now let's be clear, America needs Israel more than Israel needs America. By standing with Israel, we unlock the blessings of God. As God promised Abraham in Genesis 12, three, I will bless those who bless you and I will curse him who curses you. And in you, all the families of the earth shall be blessed. The prophet Joel says nations will be held to account by how they treat Israel. For behold, in those days and at that time, I will gather all the nations and I will enter into judgment with them there on the account of my people, my heritage, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations. They have also divided up my land. This is not just about ancient empires. This is a prophetic declaration that includes all modern nations, including the United States. That brings me back to why the isolationist sentiment gathering traction in some corners of the Republican Party is both misguided and dangerous. You know, when my children were young, one of them once asked me to buy something. I told him we didn't have the money for it. And without hesitation, they responded, we'll just drive to the bank and get some money out of that machine. Well, that moment became a teaching opportunity. Withdrawals require deposits. For decades, America has drawn on a global account filled by our leadership, our values, and yes, our engagement. And we've benefited immensely. Because of our strategic alliances and proactive leadership, the wars that we have fought have largely been overseas, sparing our own soil from the devastation experienced by many other nations. Our global posture has protected not just our interests, but our homeland. Leadership carries obligations, not to fight every war, but to shape the world in ways that protect freedom, promote stability for everyone, and ultimately benefit American citizens. This is not charity. It's strategic stewardship. Now, some argue that global engagement is too expensive, but the truth is this. America's privileged position in the world economy that has given us such a great standard of living is because we're in part the issuer of the world's primary reserve currency. And it's enabled us to borrow and spend on a scale unmatched in history. Yet our ballooning national debt is not the result of foreign aid or military partnerships. Foreign aid represents less than 1% of our federal spending. In contrast, roughly 70% to 75% of our budget is consumed by domestic spending, with about 65% categorized as mandatory. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the interest on the debt. These are the primary drivers of our fiscal crisis, not our standing with allies. Now, let me be unequivocal. For those who say we cannot afford to support Israel, I say we cannot afford not to. If we abandon our support for Israel, we will soon discover that the account of God's blessing on America is overdrawn. We have long benefited from the undeserved favor of God. This is more than geopolitical. It is about biblical truth. We are in a moment that demands moral clarity, not political convenience. Israel's cause is just. Their restraint has been remarkable. Their enemies are emboldened. Their future is not guaranteed except by God. As Americans, we should not only recognize that truth, we should align ourselves with it. If we want to secure our future economically, politically, and spiritually, we must stand with the nation that God himself has called the apple of his eye.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. The website, TonyPerkins.com. Better yet, get the Stand Firm app. Go to the App Store and get the Stand Firm app. Our word for today comes from Matthew chapters 8 and 9, where we read of 10 specific miracles Jesus performed. In Matthew 8, 16, it says that when evening had come, they brought to him many who were demon-possessed, and he cast out the spirits with a word and healed all who were sick. Matthew 9, 35 adds that then Jesus went about all the cities and villages teaching, preaching the gospel of the kingdom and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. Now, these verses confirm that Jesus performed countless miracles, but Matthew highlights 10 in these two chapters. The leper who said, Lord, if you are willing, You can make me clean. The centurion who believed only speak a word and my servant will be healed. Peter's mother-in-law, the disciples in the storm who yelled out, Lord, save us. Two demon-possessed men, a paralytic lowered by friends, a synagogue ruler's daughter, a woman with an issue of blood, two blind men, and a man who could not speak. What do they all share? Well, a real need, a measure of faith, and the undeniable power of God. Jesus still meets needs today. When faith reaches out, his power responds. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. That's BIBLE to 67742. Well, Israel's Operation Rising Lion has so far proven to be a major success in its fight against Iran with the intention of eliminating their nuclear threat. Israel has eliminated multiple Iranian officials and it has hit some of its nuclear sites, although the degree of damage to those sites is yet to be determined. Earlier today, the IDF even declared that it had gained air superiority over Iran. But all the while, Israel faces a continuous bombardment of Iranian missiles. So what's the situation like in Israel right now? Joining us now from Jerusalem is Chris Mitchell, the Middle East bureau chief at CBN News. He is currently on the ground, as I mentioned, in Israel. Chris, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us late this evening on Monday.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's great to be with you again, Tony.
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All right. Let's talk about the situation there. And we're in the evening. What has transpired so far? Any missiles over Jerusalem yet tonight?
SPEAKER 10 :
Not tonight. There was last night. There was a barrage of missiles that came literally right over the bureau where we are. You've been on our balcony before, Tony, and here in the studio. We could see some interceptions just above us, and we were filming that. Yesterday, we were actually down in Bat Yam. which is a coastal town not too far from Tel Aviv, not too far from the Mediterranean. You know, tragically, that would be, let's see, that would be Saturday night. There was a direct hit on an apartment building there. Nine people were killed, three of them children. About 200 were wounded and injured, and it damaged about 75 buildings in the vicinity. You know, Tony, these ballistic missiles by Iran are about 1,000 pounds of explosives and far greater than anything Hezbollah or Hamas has fired into Israel during the wars there. And they can do quite a lot of damage. And I know... Prime Minister Netanyahu was down there visiting the site yesterday, and he was just making the point that Iran had a goal to continue to build maybe 20,000 ballistic missiles. And that represents not only just an existential threat to Israel, not just the nuclear program. You can see some of the damage right there in the rubble. Just an eyewitness account to share that, you know, what it's like to one of these missiles lands. And tragically, there's been a number, I think about 24 people have died so far, almost 600 injured. Israel has probably one of the best anti-missile defenses in the world, and yet it's not 100% proof. So Israelis are still under threat. But I would say, Tony, resilient, resolute. I think if anything, these attacks are keeping Israelis united and unified in their attempt to make sure that Iran is finally defeated. And they'll just continue, I think, until the job is done.
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Speaking of that, Chris, I want to play a clip from Israel's president, Isaac Herzog, who was at the location you were talking about and made this statement earlier today. Clip number seven, please.
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I have news for the Iranian regime. You think you're going to tire us or make us fatigued. You're absolutely wrong. We're a very strong, resilient nation with very strong capabilities in all fields. I think you're feeling it out there in Iran.
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Yeah. That is shared on the ground.
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Oh, totally. I would agree with that 100 percent. In fact, I'll give you an example of what it was like on the ground there yesterday. There was a siren alert and most of the rescue workers that you saw there in that video just came around the corner. went to an underground parking lot. It was a building that was still not completed. That served as a bomb shelter while we were there. So we were there with maybe a couple of hundred rescue workers, media and local residents. And some people started singing, I'm Israel high, which is means in English, the people of Israel live. So I think if anything, this is brought the people of Israel together more resolute that they're going to stand against Iran and its attempt to destroy the state of Israel and the Jewish people.
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Chris, over the weekend I was speaking to a couple of Israeli officials who had called, just kind of checking in, and they're in Judea and Samaria, but there were reports that some of the sirens did not go off, alerting some of the people. Was that the case, or were people just kind of so accustomed to the sirens they were not seeking shelter?
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No, I think there were a couple of instances where the sirens did not go off, unfortunately and tragically. But they have a pretty good air defense system and then home command that really notifies people what to do and when to do it. There is actually an alert that comes on your phone. That gives you about 10 minutes to prepare, and then you get another alert, and then you finally get about a siren. It gives you 90 seconds to get into a shelter, and they tell people to stay in the shelter until they get the all clear. So unfortunately, there's a few instances where the sirens didn't go off, but for the most part, it works quite well.
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Chris, I want to play another clip. This is of the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, earlier today in an interview that aired on ABC. Play clip number eight.
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They want to continue to have these fake talks in which they lie, they cheat, they string the U.S. along. And, you know, we have very solid intel on that. But, of course, they want to keep on building their nuclear weapons and building their mass ballistic missile arsenal, which they're firing at our people. They want to continue to create the two existential threats against Israel while they're talking. That's not going to happen.
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Chris, I read in there the urgency that we've seen over the last couple of months with Israeli officials coming to Washington, D.C. to meet with the Trump administration, trying to get kind of a green light to move during this window of opportunity to take out Iran's nuclear facilities.
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Yeah, I think so. Right now, I think the urgency, Tony, is to make sure that they finish the work and the job that they've done. What they've done in the last days is just an extraordinary military achievement. This is an operation that's been 20 years in the planning. I think Netanyahu said, you know, the elimination of most of the IRGC and the Iranian army commanders in the Air Force is the beeper operation against Hezbollah on steroids. So I think there is a sense that Israel needs to complete its job and finish the job. I talked to an Iranian-born expert earlier this evening, and she was just saying, you know, it's very important that Israel can finish this and could A lot of people are hoping, praying, and thinking it might actually happen if there's enough opposition that rises up within Iran that this could be the end of the Iranian regime. But I think it's important that Israel continue its effort to eliminate most, if not all, of what they can of the nuclear program and the infrastructure of the regime itself.
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So let me be very clear. Let me ask you that question. What does finishing the job look like?
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Well, I think it means that Iran's nuclear facilities are eliminated as a threat to Israel. And I think that what that means, in particular, it means Fordow, which is the main enrichment facility of Iran that is buried deep underground under a mountain. And I know that the key about that is that it could resume enrichment of military-grade uranium very fast. And that could complete, perhaps, the nuclear cycle where they would have enriched uranium to military grade, trying to put that in a device and then put that on a ballistic missile. So I think many people are pointing to Fordow as a very key element in this process. in this battle. And the key about that is the fact that it might need that bunker-busting bomb, maybe that 30,000-pound bomb that really only the U.S. has in its arsenal. So that's one of the keys. And I think just eliminating as well the ballistic missiles. I know regime change isn't the the stated goal, perhaps, but indirectly, certainly Netanyahu and other Israeli officials know that could be the consequence. We also interviewed former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin, sorry, Naftali Bennett yesterday, and he was calling on the Iranian people to rise up and take over this regime. The key, Tony, you know, the people have risen up a number of times. 2009 called the Green Revolution, 2022 and 23 when, you know, Masha Amini was killed by the Iranian police. They would protest all over the country. The point was at that time that the regime had the wherewithal to suppress that brutally. Now the ability of the country, of the regime, to suppress any protest is greatly reduced. and uh... the more it gets reduced the more uh... ability perhaps irani people themselves to to rise up in this one other thing you may have seen it is an amazing video of actually iranian state tv on the air is bombed by uh... by israel there was actually a female presenter who just was just terrified when it actually hit. Now that could be one other way when they take away the propaganda that the state has to actually undermine the regime in a way that hasn't been done probably since 1979.
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But there's right now there's really no strong organized opposition politically within Iran to take over that regime. And I think that might be some of the hesitancy to take out the regime from the U.S. administration. An AP report said that President Trump had. actually rejected a plan that had been presented by Israel to eliminate Iran's supreme leader, the Ayatollah. I think part of that's driven by a fear of what a vacuum of leadership actually creates there in Iran. We've seen that story before.
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Yeah, we have. And that is a possibility. I don't think Netanyahu has ruled out the elimination of the Ayatollah themselves. One other thing, I did talk earlier tonight with a colleague of ours, George Thomas, who's reported extensively on Iran through the years, and especially on the underground church. And he was telling us that the underground church is very strong and it's very widespread. And the prayer is, that they could rise up to, at least behind the scenes, in prayer. And I think maybe people may not realize how many Iranians have come to faith through many dreams and visions over the years. And it could be, some people believe it's the fastest growing church in the world. And that could be sort of a... something unseen that maybe is not in the public attention, but something that the Lord would use for such a time as this, for the freedom of the Iranian people.
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Well, certainly the reports are very clear that the regime does not represent the vast majority of Iranians. So you're right. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I also agree with you that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is going to do what's in the best interest of Israel, and I would pray that he does as well for the long-term security of the nation. And that's why there's some concern And I would ask what you're hearing there. We just have a couple minutes left. Is there concern that Iran might reenter into negotiations? I mean, you heard that clip earlier from Prime Minister Netanyahu that their intel says that the Iranians were basically playing the Americans.
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Yeah, I think the big concern over here is that the negotiations will go back, that the war would stop, and that Israel wouldn't be able to actually finish the job and get all their military goals and maybe political goals completed. So I think that... would be just the way I think Iran is only asking for negotiations now because they realize how close they may be to actually the regime falling, whether internally because of pressure or externally because of what Israel is able to do militarily on the ground and destroy much of its military infrastructure and maybe its propaganda machine as well.
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Just about 20 seconds left. But isn't that essentially what's happened in Gaza, where every time they get on the verge of finishing the job, they're pulled back?
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Many times, many times the people are saying, you know, don't go, don't finish the job. It seems like Israel isn't able historically to be able to win a victory. And perhaps this would be a time like 1967 when they actually can, you know, go all the way to victory.
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Well, and we will pray to that end that God will protect the nation of Israel and that success and peace, at least for now, will be secure. Chris Mitchell, always great to see you. Thanks for joining us, folks. And I would encourage you to continue to pray. All right. That's all we have for today. Keep standing.
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Welcome to Sekulow. Will Haines, executive producer here today. And we have a jam-packed show. Make sure you like this broadcast early so it gets the word out to more. And also share it with your friends because we are going to be first joined by Jordan Sekulow in the next segment who just got done at the U.N., speaking on behalf of the ECLJ, advocating for Christians that are being persecuted in Congo. And then we'll be joined from Jerusalem by Chris Mitchell, that is the CBN News Jerusalem Bureau Chief, who will be giving us a live report from Jerusalem. And then in the back half, we'll be joined by our own Director of ACLJ Jerusalem, Jeff Balaban, who will be giving us more intel and analysis from what is going on as he is also in Jerusalem. So a lot of information coming your way. Share this with your friends. Like the broadcast. We've got a jam-packed show. And if you have questions about what's going on or want to weigh in on what we're seeing as this war between Israel and Iran escalates, go ahead and call us at 1-800-684-3110. I'll be taking your phone calls later in the broadcast and throughout today. go ahead and give me a call 1-800-684-3110. But what we saw over the weekend was an escalation as Iran showcased that they have what appear to be hypersonic missiles that are able to strike deep within the heart of Israel and are very hard to stop. We saw multiple times these rockets, these missiles slam into the heart of Tel Aviv and other parts of Israel, causing a lot of destruction, a lot of damage. And they're very hard to stop. They're very fast. It's extremely new technology. It leads to questions of which we will get in today of how did Iran get these very advanced ballistic missiles while the world has been watching? But then we're also going to talk about what Israel has done, because this was not just one strike from Israel on Friday and then letting things play out in Iran striking back. Israel has been carrying out missions both, it seems, on the ground in Tehran with Mossad, as well as with the IDF and the Israeli Air Force. And one thing that they keep doing is taking out top leaders within the Iranian regime. These are people that are responsible for the plans, the strategic implementation of these attacks on Israel. And just now we've learned that a new strike, has eliminated the head of intelligence for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, his deputy, the head of the Quds Force Intelligence Directorate, and his deputy. These are the top four Iranian intelligence officials that Israel has now taken out. They will no longer be able to sow their terror across the Middle East and the world and target Israel, whether through proxies, through funding of those proxies, supplying weaponry or directing those proxies to attack Israel, as well as during this very war. Their intelligence capabilities are now a lot less strong than they thought they were. And we're going to see how Israel continues as they continue with this massive intelligence operation to strike at the very heart of not just Iran's nuclear program, but their ability to wage terror across the Middle East and the world. It is astounding to watch. It is very impressive. But the fight isn't over. And we already know that the IAEA, the UN's Atomic Energy Organization, is condemning Israel for their strike on Iran's nuclear capabilities. We know that the ICC is probably already figuring out how to go after Israel for war crimes. And the ACLJ is here to fight back. You can join us. You can stand with Israel. Go to ACLJ.org today to stand with Israel and fight for their very survival. Welcome back to Sekulow. I want to get right into this because we are joined by Jordan Sekulow from Geneva, Switzerland at the UN. Jordan, you just got done presenting to the UN. But first, before we get to that, I want to talk about what's going on with Israel. You happen to be there at the UN. You were there working with ECLJ and this all unfolded on Friday. Not something you expected to be a part of this mission that you're on, but now is very much a part of it. What are you hearing in Geneva, in Europe, as you're there about the situation between Israel and Iran?
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You know, it's been interesting, Will, because in light of what happened on October 7th and in these couple of years that have followed, We've seen the world go from condemning the actions on October 7th to very quickly condemning Israel's response to eliminate Hamas. What we are seeing now after this strike on the Islamic Republic of Iran, not only to protect the survival of the Jewish state of Israel, but also to protect the free world against a radical regime that was on the precipice of nuclear weapons. and so we've seen a lot of calls for ceasefires the typical european response and u.n response but this is what i want to remind people today just behind me is the u.n human rights council remember the united states is no longer part of this i want to set a stage for what it was like in there today we were talking about the democratic republic of congo but and and no one but us mentioned the entire time that the group of people being killed there happened to be christians We were the only group out of all the countries. The second to last country that spoke before I did was the Islamic Republic of Iran. So while they're in a full scale aerial campaign, at least not a ground war, but aerial war with the state of Israel, they are still at the United Nations, making it very clear that they're going to speak out and send their delegates and representatives immediately. into what is the most hostile body to Israel and maybe second the United States inside this international body, which is why we're here. I mean, it's why we work with the ECLJ to take these opportunities. Tomorrow is on Israel. We will be present here again, representing our position and the position of our donors and supporters. But just one seat down for me, Will, was UNRUH. And remember, the United States under the Trump administration has just decided in these last hundred sixty odd days to stop funding these groups. And you realize the power that they have, the influence that they have and why it's so important that we encourage our representatives. And I want to talk to Republicans directly right now and conservatives, because there is this growing rift and Europeans believe that there is this moment, especially the anti-Israel bloc with inside Europe. That this is the moment to try and divide the pro-Israel sentiment inside the United States. It's why it's so important right now for all the supporters of Israel to make their voice loud and clear. Join our petitions. Stand up. Call your representative. Because there are unfortunately not just left-wing Democrats who we would kind of assume to be anti-Israel. but actually those within our own movement who are now preaching this anti-israel message as if they don't have the right to defend themselves against a nuclear iran the world failed in preventing iran from going nuclear the world failed the u.n failed the other agencies of the world the iaea they failed but they didn't stop warning israel will they kept telling israel this is a serious problem the iaea reports are very clear and so israel has decided to act let's make sure we're standing with Israel. And a great example of that is that Iron Dome system. Now, unfortunately, some of those missiles, as you mentioned, those hypersonic missiles, it looks like, were able to get through that system. But for the majority of the attacks, remember, Israel has air superiority dominance over Iran right now. And fortunately, because of a U.S. military system jointly manufactured with Israel and deployed in Israel, most Israelis will be safe when the bombing and the missiles begin again today.
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Jordan, you mentioned being following the Islamic Republic of Iran and UNRWA being just a couple seats down from you. This just shows the importance of the work of the ACLJ. When the U.S. isn't a part of the Human Rights Council anymore, which is the right move, you still have to have the Ministry of Presence because Israel is outnumbered almost 192 to one, depending on the administration, Maybe they get 191 to 2 if the U.S. is willing to stand with them. But they weren't under the previous four years. So the Ministry of Presence being able to advocate for the Middle East's only democracy in a world where you see what Iran is able to do is so important. And that's what ACLJ members and donors are a part of. This work, this very work that allows you to be there sitting comfortably. within close proximity of these diplomats from UNRWA, from the Iranian Republic, the Islamic Republic of Iran. It's astounding, even as someone who has worked with you for such a long time and among this work, it still is so impressive, the work that we are able to do because of the ACLJ members and champions.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. And you know what, Will? We're here because, as you said, we have to be a voice. We don't just represent the United States. We don't represent just Israel. We represent our supporters. And our supporters have a global vision for the persecuted church, for the state of Israel, for Europe as well. You know, I joined you last time I joined you, I was in Hungary and I was meeting with President Orban there. And there's a conservative movement happening. We see it in Italy. We see it in Hungary. We see it in Spain. We see it here. Also, we've seen it in France. We're seeing it across Europe. And there's a list of other countries I could go through. We're actually hosting a reception at the European Center for Law and Justice in just a couple of days with a lot of the members of the European Parliament from those very parties. When I was younger and we were just starting out with the European Center for Law and Justice, those parties didn't exist. They may have existed, but they didn't get enough votes, Will, to even have a representative inside the European Parliament or inside their own country's domestic legislative body. Now they do, and they are winning elections, and then they are having elections taken away from them. i mean we saw that happen in uh we we just saw we saw what happened in poland recently uh we have seen what happened in romania as well where a first round of election was declared uh declared to be null and void so this is it was of course a conservative one so this idea of election integrity is not just a u.s issue either and it is so important that we reverse course, that we are not, it is not strange to hear a U.S. accent inside the United Nations in Geneva a decade from now. A decade from now, for your children and grandchildren, let's make sure that we're back and we're back and we're still funding all of this. So let's make sure we have the influence that we should have. And I think what the groups like ACLJ are doing is our government taking a stand saying, We're no part of this anymore, but it's just like how we go to the ICC and we still defend Israel's position there. We've also defended the U.S. military and servicemen and women's position at the ICC. We do it to make sure they have a voice when their governments cannot act because of diplomatic concerns.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Jordan, just a couple minutes left here before we let you go. And you'll be joining us later this week with more updates from Europe as you continue there. But one other thing when it comes to this whole war that has broken out and the technological advances we're seeing from Iran. It's an unfortunate situation because we at the ACLJ, as we pushed back against the JCPOA, that was the Obama-Biden nuclear deal. One of the big criticisms that we had was that it didn't address the ballistic missile program of Iran. But yet it gave them billions of dollars. It gave them sanctions relief. It gave them a quasi-legitimacy with having this deal with the Americans on the table. And what we now see is what did Iran do during that period of the JCPOA? They used the cash, the sanctions relief, and no red lines on a ballistic missile program to develop some of the most technologically advanced weapons ballistic missiles we've seen used in warfare at this point. And I think you can directly draw that line to that failed JCPOA. You got about a minute and a half here, but I just want to get your thoughts on that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, look at the ballistic missiles. I mean, the fact is I was reading a report on a flight to Geneva this morning and before preparing for today at the United Nations. And this report was from a source inside Israel. And I know that there's a lot of reporting coming out. It may change by tomorrow. but that they still believe that Iran has, you know, two to three thousand ballistic missiles to fire. So on the one hand, to think that, yes, you can take out significant, a lot of ability for Iran to respond. I don't even think we have a clear understanding yet. Maybe the Israeli military does some of their intelligence sources on the ground, but from just reporting and what we've heard of how damaged Iran is at this point and how damaged the Islamic Republic is and how teetering on the edge of power. At the same time, As you said, while the world's eyes were supposed to be on them, Will, they were able to amass a massive amount of high-tech weaponry, some which is getting through the United States' most advanced anti-missile system developed in the world. So if it's getting through Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, guess where else it could get through? Your city and your hometown. And that's what I think we have to understand is Israel has always been on the front lines of this war against terror. Iran is not just a terror group with rockets. This is a terror group that runs a state that has ballistic missiles and wanted to have a nuclear weapon. And I think just by showing where Iran has targeted, which is not military installations inside Israel, but is Israeli civilians, underscores exactly why Israel had to act and the U.S. must be on the side of Israel.
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Thank you, Jordan, for that update from Geneva, Switzerland. Folks, as you can see, the ACLJ is mobilized right now. We are here for this moment. We are in Geneva. We are around the world. We are standing with Israel and we need you to stand with us. Go to ACLJ.org. Donate to stand with Israel as we take on these battles. Welcome back to Seculo, executive producer Will Haynes hosting today. And I'm now joined by Chris Mitchell, who is the CBN News Bureau Chief in Jerusalem. And Chris, we've had you on this broadcast for many years, and I feel like this conflict is a little different than ones we've had you on before. What's your sense on the ground of how it's playing out in Israel and what you're seeing?
SPEAKER 02 :
will great to be with you i think this is much different than uh things that we have done in the past i think we're looking at a historic change uh potentially here in the middle east i would say already we've seen such a change in the last four days since uh operation rising lion began obviously uh israel has been taking some hits yesterday i was in batyam that's where one of the iranian missiles has hit destroyed an apartment building Tragically, nine people died in that, three children, about 200 injured, about 75 buildings that were damaged to some extent. But what began early last Friday morning really is, I would say, a sea change in the Middle East history. with the potential that we may see a regime change in Iran because of what Israel has been doing to not only take out much of the nuclear infrastructure, air defenses, ballistic missiles, but also targeting much of the the headquarters of some of the IRGC, the Iranian army, and eliminating just an amazing amount of senior leaderships in Iran, very reminiscent of what happened with Nizam Hazrala with Hezbollah, but even on a grander scale. So we're in historic times right now, and some would say even biblical times.
SPEAKER 07 :
And when you look at what Israel has been able to pull off even just now, and we know that this operation is not over, but what we are seeing is one, the restraint of the Israelis to wait until they felt like it was necessary. The fact, the intelligence gathering, the manufacturing, it appears, of drones within Tehran, and the coordinated effort between the IDF and Mossad and Shin Bet and the Israeli Air Force is something like we've never seen in modern warfare take place. And it really, I think, is a credit to the Israelis of their planning and their waiting until they felt like it was absolutely necessary to carry out such an operation.
SPEAKER 02 :
The planning has been probably about 20 years in the making, Will. The precision and the intelligence that Israel has been gathering over the years and the way that they've been able to infiltrate the Iranian leadership. And when they started eliminating some of the top Iranian leaders, they knew where they were. And they not only knew where they were, but they also had the wherewithal, as you said, some of these drones actually taking in by different parts and then constructed inside Tehran or different parts of Iran. This is just something on a scale. I don't know if any military army has been able to do this with all the intelligence apparatus, as you say, the Mossad and the Shin Bet. putting it all together and then operating in it and releasing it at just the right time. This is just spectacular what they have been able to do and continue to do. Even as we speak, the attacks go on. I believe just a few hours ago they hit the Iranian television in Tehran as well, and we're seeing just the consequences of what's happening we're seeing uh you know thousands and thousands of uh people from tehran leaving and uh we hear of you know the the iranian people rising up like they have before you know we've seen this before in the sense of maybe 2009 there was a green revolution uh and then uh but that was brutally suppressed again in 2022 and 23 the protests when mashad amini was killed just for wearing her job in an improper way but this looks very different will that if the people do rise up uh it seems like it's a much weaker regime much less able to suppress any sort of uh uprising we were down a bit yam yesterday and when we we interviewed uh naftali bennett a former israeli prime minister and he said this is The opportunity for the Iranian people to rise up, that the people of the world will be with you, and certainly what Israel is doing is really making it possible, it seems, for the Iranian people to finally get the freedom that they have cried out for for 46 years.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and as you mentioned, back with the Green Revolution under the Obama administration, there really was no support from an American government for there to be real change within the Islamic Republic of Iran. And I feel like it is a different era for many reasons, obviously. But as we look at what lays ahead, you see videos coming out of Iran of people chanting... in support of what israel is doing and against the ayatollah and the mullahs in iran and this is final question here as as we look ahead and we see that they are weakened we see the intelligence officers being wiped out the top nuclear scientists the people within the irgc that have such a grip on the people of iran as they are being taken out What should we, as the American media consumer that are very engaged and involved with this, what should we be looking for in the days ahead that could maybe show a nod that there could be real change and real regime change in Iran?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, just continue to see what's happening on social media. I think we're going to be seeing more videos of people crying out for regime change. Keep your eye out on Reza Pahlavi, who is the son of the late Shah. He's put out a message to the Iranian people and the military in particular. to join the people. That could be a game changer, a tipping point as well. I would say also, hopefully, many people are hoping the U.S. would continue to support, even indirectly, Israel and maybe provide those bunker-busting bombs for Fordow, which is a key enrichment facility. And finally, I know a lot of people are saying pray for the people of Iran. Pray for the protection of Israel. Prayer is very, very critical in these tumultuous days.
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Chris, thank you so much for joining us today. We pray for your safety as you report from Jerusalem, as well as for the people of Israel and for the people of Iran. But thank you for this update. And we will hopefully have you on again soon as we continue to watch what's happening in Israel. But folks, as you just heard from Chris Mitchell with a live report from Jerusalem, as you heard from Jordan in the previous segment, who just got out of the Human Rights Council in Geneva. ACLJ is providing you insight and analysis like you won't get anywhere else and we're not even halfway done with this show yet today stay tuned like the video just to make sure more people see this analysis but also know At the ACLJ, we don't just stop at analysis. We do the work. That's why Jordan is in Geneva. That's why he's there fighting for persecuted Christians in Congo, but also meetings behind the scenes, working to support Israel as the world is already turning. The amount of propaganda and misinformation that the Iranians have been able to flood social media platforms with already is astounding. Their operation when it comes to propaganda is much better than I gave them credit for. And that's why it takes voices like ours to stand with Israel, but also to be able to go to those international bodies like the UN, like the ICC. and fight for the very survival of Israel alongside them. They're taking care of the warfare. We're going after the lawfare. Support the ACLJ today at ACLJ.org. Become a champion if you can. That's a monthly donor. Thank you.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
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This is our second half hour. Thank you for joining us. What a action packed and very informative first half hour we had with Jordan joining us from Geneva and Chris Mitchell from Jerusalem coming up. We'll be having ACLJ Jerusalem's Jeff Balaban joining us in the next segment with more analysis from Israel. But if you missed that first half hour, I encourage you go back and watch it. It was really one of the most impressive first half hours we've had in a long time. I was, uh, just shocked at how great it was we were able to get Jordan live from Geneva and that's all because of the ACLJ supporters and champions that support not only this broadcast but this entire organization so we can bring you not just experts from around the world but our own team on the ground at the UN. He just got done speaking. I'll play actually that oral intervention in the final segment of the broadcast that Jordan gave just prior to joining us. But we can't do any of this without you. And that's why it's so important right now to stand with the ACLJ, stand with Israel, and help push back against the coming lawfare we know is going to be starting, if it hasn't already, It is starting in the coming days. But I didn't want to play this bite because President Trump is in Canada for the G7 summit and was asked about the conflict that is going on, the war between Israel and Iran. So you'll hear a reporter and then President Trump. But let's go ahead and play bite 10. This just happened.
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Have you heard any signals or seen any messages from intermediaries that Iran wishes to de-escalate the conflict? Yeah. What have you heard? What have you heard from the Iranians?
SPEAKER 04 :
They'd like to talk, but they should have done that before. I had 60 days, and they had 60 days, and on the 61st day I said, we don't have a deal. They have to make a deal. It's painful for both parties, but I'd say Iran is not winning this war. And they should talk, and they should talk immediately before it's too late.
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I want to go ahead and take a phone call here. And this is Ann calling from Pennsylvania on line one. And if you want to call in and join the broadcast, 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. I'll be taking more calls in the final segment of the broadcast, but Ann in Pennsylvania watching on Facebook, you're on the air. Thank you so much. Um,
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't want to take too much of your time, but honestly, that last individual that you interviewed said amazing things. And the strategy aspect of it, knowing how they're going to do this, how long it's going to be, for me, it should be limited. Sweet, short and sweet. Israeli, the chosen nation of God in the Middle East is the chosen nation of God. Israelis have suffered probably more than any other religion has ever. And Israel has been fighting this radical Islamic enemy for many, many years. But this is, I just want to say one more thing. But at the end of the day, this has to be short and we have to be, they can't expect us to to yes the troop our troops weapons finances endless no we want we want the middle eastern eternal wars to end we can't do this anymore guys we can't we can't afford to lose troops And the Iranian people, another great thing that your guest said, the Iranian people, they have been fighting for their freedom. And if this is the way for them to do their regime change, I totally and we as MAGA supporters and you guys, we totally support it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I'm only cutting you off because we're running short on time. But I don't think anyone disagrees with you. I think, one, you're seeing that Israel is doing a great job of eliminating this threat and they're going to continue. And the support of the Americans has been limited in scope at this point. but i also think that you're seeing a difference in what a president trump how he approaches this than how many other presidents in the past would have and i think it's the right path right now supporting israel doesn't mean we're putting american boots on the ground in the way like iraq or afghanistan we'll get more into that as we come up and keep watching as we talk with jeff balaban on that but also stay tuned and support the aclj aclj.org Welcome back to Sekulow. I'm joined now by the director of ACLJ Jerusalem, Jeff Balaban, who is in Jerusalem. Jeff, first of all, I just want to say we've been praying for your safety all weekend, but we are glad that you can join us today to give an update on what... I think we should just start there. What is it like on the ground in Israel over these last few days? The Israeli people are resilient. They are strong. They are used to rockets all the time incoming. But this is a little different than previous conflicts with the Iranian proxies as now it is Iran itself firing ballistic missiles.
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Thanks, William, and thanks to you, everyone at ACLJ, my colleagues, and also many of our viewers and listeners and our supporters for prayers and for help. What it's like to be here, it's exhausting. It's hard to get a night's sleep. There's no way to get a night's sleep because there are waves of sirens that go off. The way it works here, the warning system is fantastic. So there are multiple apps. There's a home front security app, a home front command app, rather. There's a red alert app. And by the way, those are probably available everywhere in the world. I know that I will get those updates even when I'm out of this country. And they tell you that you should be now it's be within, let's say, 90 seconds of a shelter. In Jerusalem, they'll give you that warning in advance. Yeah, there's an example of showing targeted areas. And then a major siren goes off. Now the sirens go off in your neighborhood and they're very calibrated. So I can be in my apartment and look out the window and see the interceptors overhead. you know, a neighborhood or two over, and the siren will not have gone off in my neighborhood. But nonetheless, many of these, they do need to send us to shelters multiple times during the night. So that's what's been happening here. Otherwise, and let's also not forget, Israel is still prosecuting a war in Gaza. Israel is still trying to get back its 50 hostages and defang the murderous terrorists who still have control of Gaza. So it's not as though Israel's not fighting on multiple fronts. This is what's catching everyone's attention here. But this is, you said the words resilient. I don't really know of a better word in the English language, but it certainly doesn't even become close to approach the actual resilience of the people of Israel.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jeff, one thing that you and I were talking about offline, which I think is important to reiterate, I talked about this briefly with Jordan when he was on in the first half hour, but the concern that we had all along, among many, with the JCPOA, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the big, beautiful Obama-Iran deal, if you want to use some current terms, big, beautiful, it was anything but that. And One of the major criticisms among there being no real teeth to it, no real inspections program, but that it did nothing to limit or rein in the ballistic missile program of the Iranian Mullahs and the IRGC. And what we're seeing now is when Obama gave Iran pallets of cash, sanctions relief into the billions of dollars, everything that Iran said they needed to help the people of Iran and help their economy. They did what we said they would do the entire time. They spent it on terror with Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis, as well as developing some of the most technologically advanced ballistic missiles we've seen deployed on a battlefield. When you see these hypersonic missiles come down like a lightning strike in the center of Tel Aviv, you can draw that direct through line to the failures of the JCPOA. What was Iran doing during those years? Building these missiles, not helping their people. And I feel like that in and of itself, it shows why Israel had to act now, but also the failures of this appeasement that prior administrations have given to a genocidal theocratic dictatorship in Iran.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, William, I mean, I couldn't agree more. The JCPOA, I don't know if it was a failure or if it succeeded at what it really intended, which was actually to install this terrible regime over and above its people, to its Presbyterian people, the Iranian people, and to represent a genuine new power base for America, but a new power base that actually is a purely evil power base, one that seeks—it is— has been trying to destroy america chance death to america burns american flags is uh... actively growing it's intercontinental ballistic missile program which obviously is intended not to meet israel would they can met they can hit israel with regular ballistic missiles it's to it's to reach it america and over over they say that america is the great satan that israel's just a small satan we in israel sitting here are a proxy for the united states of america that is the great satan according to iran and the jcpoa blindly is to put the best possible gloss on it. Really, as you say, it unleashed some estimates are over $150 billion. I mean, billions and billions and billions of dollars to a regime that turned it right into launching major wars against American interests directly and, of course, against Israel. And all of this, every part of this is a result of, at best, a feckless American ideology and regime, or at worst, a really mendacious one. And, you know, Israel across the board politically was against JCPOA. In America, I recall very well that the Obama administration and John Kerry, they accused American Jews of of being disloyal Americans for opposing the JCPOA when it wasn't even so. Most Americans thought this was a terrible deal, and it turns out it was a terrible deal. The wars that we're seeing now, from October 7th to now, are 100% a result of JCPOA and the shift from America to paying attention to what Iran was trying to do, to go nuclear and weaponize, to listening to America say, no, no, no, Iran rather say, no, we don't mean that. We don't mean it when we say death to Israel. You can trust us that we want to have just peaceful nuclear power. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and Jeff, once again, we have to combat those that are on their perfect little platforms on social media that try to say, oh, we're being drug into another war by Israel or this is going to cost American lives. The ignorance when it comes to the global affairs in Iran is astounding, even that we're seeing on the right. And I feel like, if anything, this operation should be what most of the world would support. Right now, it's been very minimal American support other than the defense agreements we have with Israel. I'm sure there is intelligence sharing the communication between the United States and Israel. But this isn't America, American adventurism that we've seen maybe in the past. This is eliminating a real threat to global order. And this is the Israelis doing it mostly on their own with one of the most beautifully planned military operations I've ever seen and will be in history books because of how well it's been executed.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, God willing that it ends up well, but there's no question, William, that this is a proximate imminent danger to the continental United States of America. It's already evidence that it's danger to our assets elsewhere because they have been. Iran and its proxies have been blowing up American assets, murdering Americans for years and years and years, and America's done almost nothing to respond. Israel, because it is imminently subjected to existential threat, is finally being forced to respond, and thank God Israel's doing it, but yes, Israel is currently prosecuting America's war, and the fact that there are voices who claim to be pro-America, who claim to be america first or part of make america great again and we're claiming otherwise they are not they're they're indistinguishable in their policies from the most extreme radical leftists from the squad from iran omar rashida talib they're indistinguishable it's driven it seems to be nothing more than hatred of jews in israel because and and they've lost their love for america underneath that and and groups like aclj and the christian supporters of aclj and the other supporters of aclj it's so important to stand up for the truth here, which really could not be more obvious, and fight against those voices.
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Jeff, thank you so much for joining us. As I mentioned earlier, we will continue to be praying for your safety, for the safety of the people of Israel, and for those of the people of Iran that are under this genocidal, theocratic dictatorship. whose entire theology is trying to usher in the apocalypse by bringing the 12th Imam forward. This is not someone who should have hypersonic ballistic missiles that can rain down and that should be developing a nuclear weapon program because we know what they will do with it. This isn't a rational regime. This is, as I've said many times, a genocidal, theocratic dictatorship that oppresses its people. And for far too long, even the leadership of the United States has not been willing to even throw even lip service to those in Iran that are oppressed. But all that is changing. And you're even seeing, even now, the President of the United States saying, if they're willing to really talk, we will really talk with them. But what you see is that Iran uses talks to delay. And as they delay, what are they doing? They're building new technologies. They're funding terror groups across the region. They're funding terror cells across the world. They have no real desire to limit what they can do because they have an end goal. And we know that end goal. The ACLJ has been studying and talking about this and fighting back against this for decades. This isn't new to us. The world may now be seeing it. And that's why you as an ACLJ supporter need to stand with us as we stand not just with Israel, which we do aggressively and effectively, but we will stand with the world as we champion liberty and freedom around it. Give today at ACLJ.org. Welcome back to Sekulow, final segment of the broadcast today. It has been a jam-packed show. We had Jordan live reporting from Geneva, where he just spoke at the UN Human Rights Council. We had Chris Mitchell, the Bureau Chief of CBN News in Jerusalem, reporting there. We had Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem with more insight. If you are just now joining us, you missed a lot today. When this segment's over, go back and watch the rest of the hour. It was incredible. That's what the ACLJ can bring you through our media efforts, through our people on the ground. You're getting analysis like you won't see anywhere else. And we're telling you the truth. We're cutting through the spin. We're cutting through the misinformation. We're going directly to the heart of the issue. But it's not just our media presence. It's not just this broadcast. It's the actual work our lawyers and our diplomatic team and those around the world that are working daily to fight for what you believe in. And you can be a part of that when you support the ACLJ. It's our members and our champions. Champions are those that give on a monthly recurring basis. We couldn't do any of this without you. but we do it very well with you. So if you can, go to aclj.org and give today because this is a very important moment. But I also wanted to play this because all of what we've been talking about today has been focused on the war between Iran and Israel. But we don't just focus on one thing at a time. Our attorneys are able to handle many things at the same time. Multitasking is what one of our specialties is here at the ACLJ. And Jordan was at the Human Rights Council It was already planned before the war broke out. So through God's providence, he's there, and he can be working on this issue of Israel right now. But also, he was there to raise awareness about the persecution and killing of Christians in Congo that is going on right now. We sent a letter to Secretary of State Rubio raising this issue just last week, But Jordan's also in Geneva bringing this attention to the Human Rights Council with the representative from Iran a few seats down one way and the representative from UNRWA a few seats down the other way. So I want you to watch this and hear the other work we're doing simultaneously because you won't hear about it every single day, all the things going on at the ACLJ on this broadcast. We'll bring you as much as we can as quickly as we can, but some things just know our attorneys are working on tirelessly. While the world is focused on other things. So I want to play this for you because it's very important because we fight for the persecuted and those that don't have a voice that are overlooked around the world. So take a look at this. This is Jordan just earlier today. And then I'll be right back with you.
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The first on my list is European Center for Law and Justice.
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Thank you Mr. Vice President. Violence against Christians in the Democratic Republic of the Congo has reached alarming levels in recent months. In February 2025, the ADF, a terrorist group affiliated with the Islamic State, massacred 70 Christians in brutal attacks that targeted places of worship. These atrocities are part of a broader campaign of terror. Between January and February of 2025, a child was sexually assaulted every 30 minutes, and over 7 million people are now internally displaced. We welcome the resolution adopted by the European Parliament in April 2025, condemning these attacks and recognizing their religious dimension. But this Council must also act. As is often the case, the violence is driven not only by ideology, but by the desire to control strategic national resources. Armed groups exploit this chaos to enrich themselves, while Christian communities continue to bear the brunt of the violence. We respectfully urge the independent international fact-finding mission on human rights abuses and violations in the provinces of North Kivu and South Kivu. to include in its investigations the specific targeting of Christian communities. While the resolution rightly addresses human rights violation in the context of this conflict, it does not address the religious dimension. That must change. The ECLJ, therefore, calls on this council to acknowledge the religious charter of the persecution against Christians in eastern DRC, support international mechanisms to investigate and prosecute crimes against humanity, and ensure the protection of displaced and targeted populations. Thank you.
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That was Jordan Sekulow just earlier, minutes before this broadcast today, before the UN Human Rights Council, advocating for those in Congo that are persecuted for being Christian, being killed for their faith. So at the same time that he's working on issues of silencing conservative speech in Europe and also working on the lawfare we know that is coming against Israel, he's also doing that work, advocating for the voiceless around the world that are killed just because they are Christians. It's something that fortunately in the United States, we don't have to really face real persecution. We see weaponization of the government against Christians. We talked about that last week where our clients in Chicago were arrested simply for exercising their First Amendment rights and preaching the gospel on the streets there. And we're having to fight a criminal case against them. Meanwhile, we see those riots from LA spreading across the country and taking over Chicago, them having to shut down streets, suspend bus service. Those were happening pretty much at will. But if you are a peaceful presenter of the gospel, you were arrested because they were weaponizing an ordinance against people of faith, people wanting to share their faith. So we have weaponization against Christians here in the United States, but we don't have full-on persecution like we see around the world. But the ACLJ can handle both. We can fight in court defending our clients criminally and then suing Chicago for that ordinance, which is being unjustly weaponized against Christians and unfairly applied to So we can do that, but we can also go to the UN in Geneva and we can fight for the voiceless in Congo and around the world wherever persecution is happening. We have a big team. We have a very powerful team. We have a great team, and that's all because of you. Those of you that support the ACLJ allow us to be able to have that broad of scope, that we can be in local court defending Christians in a criminal proceeding in the state of Illinois, as well as suing in federal court Illinois, as well as being in Geneva advocating for the persecuted. as well as having an office in Jerusalem where you're getting live reports about what's happening in Israel. I don't know of another organization that could bring you all that. And then we bring you the information daily on this broadcast, Monday through Friday. And we tell you what's happening in the world. We cut through the lies and the misinformation. You have to hand it to the Iranian regime on one thing. Their misinformation operation got cranked up as soon as that strike happened on Iran. And it is disgusting what you're seeing on X right now and on social media. But that's why we're here to push back against all of that. And you can be a part of it. You can join the ACLJ in this battle. You can stand with us. You can stand with Israel. You can stand with Christians in Congo or street preachers in Chicago. Go to ACLJ.org and become a champion of life, liberty, and freedom. Your monthly donation continues to fund these fights around the world. It's very simple. ACLJ.org slash champions become a monthly donor and you can help continue these battles across the world. But if you can't give monthly, just go to ACLJ.org and make a one-time donation. It takes champions, it takes members, and it takes you to continue these fights. ACLJ.org.

In this episode of The Mike Gallagher Show, we dive into the unsettling political climate both domestically and internationally. Mike discusses the recent political assassination in Minnesota, addressing the need for accountability and the dangers of blaming political ideologies for acts of violence. The conversation shifts to the escalating tensions in the Middle East, with insights from Scott Jennings who shares his harrowing experiences from Israel amidst the ongoing conflict with Iran.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher. Broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network. Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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I was glad to wake up today and see that the earth is still spinning on its axis. We're still here. We've got war in the Middle East. President Trump. saying, I think it's time for a deal with Iran. The Israelis, it is reported, have achieved air superiority over Iran's skies. We continue to pray for Israel. You don't want World War III? Then you better hope that Iran doesn't complete their efforts to possess a nuclear weapon. Because they'll do one thing. If they get their hands on a nuke, and they will... wipe Israel off the face of the earth. And that is not something that I think normal people want to be a party to, anywhere in the world. The violent, vicious people who hate Israel, who likely hate the United States, I guess are okay with that. But meanwhile, here at home, there was an unspeakable... horrifying political assassination, apparently, over the weekend. I don't know if you want to call it political or not, but this crazed killer with some kind of a grudge against Democrats allegedly donned a police uniform and a creepy latex mask. If you haven't seen the surveillance pictures of this guy, it's something right out of a horror movie. He shot one Minnesota state lawmaker to death, killed her husband, shot the family dog. The poor dog reportedly had to be put down by the grieving orphaned children of this poor former Democrat House Speaker Melissa Hortman. And nothing about this makes sense. This story is so bizarre. Of course, you know that by now the guy's name is Vance Belter, some kind of weird former pastor, owned a security company, worked for a funeral home, had a wife and five kids and a big, beautiful home, but had a couple of roommates, including the Papa John's delivery guy who's sitting on the stoop reading Vance Belter's text messages? And I'm just looking right now at the charging document from the state of Minneapolis, Hennepin County. This makes no sense. He's been charged not with first-degree murder, but second-degree murder with intent not premeditated. Not premeditated? How's he not charged with first-degree murder? I'm no lawyer, obviously, but does that make sense? Does it make sense that the pizza guy is on the stoop, insisting the guy is a Trump supporter? And what difference does it make if he's a Trump supporter? What difference does it make if he was a Tim Walz appointee? I was disgusted. over the weekend in watching social media start out, oh, he's a Tim Walz appointee. Oh, look at that. He's one of them. Then apparently the manifesto is released. He's targeting nobody but Democrats and abortion providers, abortion clinics. And according to the roommate, he's a Trump supporter. Who cares? Who cares? And, you know, I'm just going to say this, and I'm going to turn it over to you, because if you think I've got the wrong take on this, I don't mind welcoming dissent on how I feel. When the crazed, maniacal, would-be killer of all the Republican congressmen he could kill, who nearly killed Steve Scalise when he shot him, and tried to kill the Republicans on that baseball field... When it was revealed he was a Bernie Sanders supporter, I don't remember any of us blaming Bernie Sanders. I don't remember any of us blaming Democrats. There is no purpose, there is nothing productive of trying to blame one side or the other. And I think we've got to knock it off. I really do. And I would urge our side to do the same thing. Look, I can't stand Tim Walz. I think the guy is a disaster. And he likely was a big contributing factor to Kamala losing the election. So I've got nothing good to say about him. And yes, it seems... Very notable that Tim Walz is now calling for, you know, peace and love and unity after he went and said you need to go out and bully the blank out of Donald Trump. We all got to be bullies if you don't like Donald Trump and we got to be meaner. Well, adults in the room can recognize Tim Walz didn't mean go out and kill people you disagree with. It doesn't matter that this guy was a Tim Walz appointee. And by the way, he was also appointed by the Dayton, the Mark Dayton administration. He was a Republican. We've got to knock it off. We've got to knock it off. Remember, the Bernie Sanders shooter. We didn't do this. And I don't know if this means lowering the temperature a little bit. I don't know if it means... cooling down the rhetoric a little bit? I don't know. All I know is to blame an ideology, to blame a political party for the violent actions of a killer. Yes, I know the Democrats have lifted up Luigi Mangione. I understand that they seem to be, frankly, a pretty violent bunch. But if we don't stop blaming one side or the other for the actions of one twisted, evil lunatic, things are going to just get worse. 800-655-MIKE. We've got a lot of breaking news today. You know, some would say that the political violence in Minnesota leads to the lawmaker's death. I sort of reject that. And I believe we've got to be careful in blaming a political ideology as awful as we might find it to be for the murder, the murders committed. of Melissa Hortman and her husband. Let's see what you think here in the Relief Factor studios. Join us, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. One number does it all. Text us on the MyPillow text line. Call us so we can put your voice front and center. However you get here, please get here on this Monday episode of a breaking news edition of The Mike Gallagher Show, 800-655-6453.
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Morning. First of all, I'd like to send my condolences to the lawmakers' families and friends, of course. I thought it was pretty interesting watching Tim Walsh, the AG, the DA, police chiefs all standing there giving accolades to the cooperation of interagency, bipartisan, to bring this guy in. And it seems like these are the exact things that our sanctuary cities are against. And I just find it extraordinarily hypocritical.
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Well, there's tons of hypocrisy going on right now. I mean, it's also fairly hypocritical to say, well, let's all be unified and let's have, you know, kumbaya moments when just a couple of weeks ago Tim Walz was saying they need to be meaner and they need to bully the S out of Donald Trump. Here was, of course, Tim Walz holding a press conference and attributing the death of this woman and her husband to... meanness.
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It's not about hatred. It's not about mean tweets. It's not about demeaning someone. It's leading with grace and compassion and vision and compromise and decency. That was taken from us in Minnesota.
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Well, did you check out Eric Swalwell, one of Tim Walz's fellow Democrats? You want decency? You don't want meanness? You don't want to dehumanize people? Isn't it funny when they say those kinds of things, they always exempt Donald Trump from that list. Eric Swalwell is a very prominent California Democrat in the House of Representatives. He attended one of the No Kings rallies on Saturday. Here's what he said. Donald Trump is America's Hitler. How about that? Now, I get kind of stunned. You want to talk about not being mean? Tim Walz, like, actually said we got to get meaner. Am I hallucinating? Because I feel like I'm in a weird, like, Twilight Zone episode. Again, nobody should blame Tim Walz for what this guy did. Nobody should blame Democrats for what this guy did. This guy needs to be blamed for what he did. But I also have eyes to see with and ears to hear with. You want me to pull the clip from Tim Walz saying we need to get meaner? How does that work? Look, I call on Tim Walz to say all of us need to cut it out. And it's going to be difficult for the Tim Walzes of the world because by cutting it out, we mean stop calling Trump Hitler and stop calling us fascists. Stop it. Just cut it out. If you believe that, if you want to lower the temperature, well, you got to start. And I do believe, and this is difficult, but I do believe there's some level of, or there is a measure of lowering the temperature. Am I wrong? 800-655-MIKE. Hope you join us. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com. Use the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me.
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It's been reported that Israel now controls the skies over Tehran. This is obviously a scary time. We've got war in the Middle East. And we have a military conflict between Israel and Iran where we hope, of course, that Israel gets the upper hand. And this is a fact that all of us who are debating whether or not the U.S. should be involved, we are involved, certainly to some extent. Iran is an existential threat to Israel, America, and the world. as long as this evil regime remains in place. They're committed to the destruction of Israel and, of course, the United States. I've been thinking a lot about Scott Jennings, who's one of the lone voices of reasonableness over on CNN. And he went to Israel. on a uh on a visit there and of course now is sort of stuck and i've been watching and been fascinated by scott's journey and we've been praying for him let's welcome cnn's scott jennings the one-time guest host on the mike gallagher show and i have to confess he was a hit everybody loves scott and scott welcomed uh you're in israel now are you in jerusalem
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No, I have some news. I have made my way out of Israel. Finally, I've been there for the last nine days. And this morning I woke up and made my way out of Jerusalem over to Amman, Jordan, where I just just arrived in Amman. And I'm trying to fly out of here tomorrow morning to get back to the United States. But I've been in Israel for the last nine days. I've been all over the country and seen more missiles and missile intercepts than I care to report.
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Well, Scott, I texted you the other night, are you getting much sleep? And you said, well, the bombs come at night, and you've got to be up for that. I just can't imagine what you must have been experiencing all this time when this war broke out, and you're thinking, here I am, kind of stuck in Israel.
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Yeah, I was in the city of Tiberias the other night when it started, which is on the shores of the Sea of Galilee, actually. And I watched missile after missile fly overhead. I also watched a lot of Israeli fighter jets going that direction. And it was – I mean, of course, in the United States, we don't experience – These kinds of things happen far away. We watch them on our television. For people of Israel, this is more daily life for them, dodging rockets and this sort of thing. But even this kind of war where you've got these cruise missiles, these intercontinental ballistic missiles coming in, It's crazy. I mean, it's hard to describe the feeling when you see one of these missiles and then you see the interceptor go up and then you see the missile break up in the atmosphere and the debris comes down. It's a wild feeling. It's been a surreal experience.
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Well, of course, I've followed your journey from your posts on social media and your reporting from over there. And I think I was probably at the same hotel you were at in Tiberias. I know you went to near Oz. You went to the kibbutz. You were at the Nova Music Festival. It's so, so important for people to get their eyes on the Holy Land as they're under siege. And, you know, Scott, I know you've made some news over the weekend because you've been quoted as saying, we've got to take the evil regime out. But what other option do we have? I mean, as long as they're committed to the destruction of Israel... And yes, the United States, nothing's going to change. I mean, what do you think the next steps are? And I don't know if you've seen this reporting. The Wall Street Journal is saying that a battered Iran is now sending a signal that it wants to de-escalate hostilities with Israel and negotiate.
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Well, yeah, I did see that report, and of course they do, because Israel has the evil regime on its knees. I mean, what Israel has done in the last few days, creating complete air supremacy over Iran, taking out the senior military intelligence leadership of the country, and they've got this regime on the run, and for good reason, because they're on the brink of developing a nuclear weapon. And for Israel, this is an existential threat. This isn't a philosophical exercise. They cannot live with this regime with a nuclear weapon. Why? Because the regime's principal aim is to destroy Israel. They chant death to Israel. And you know what else? They chant death to America. They believe Israel is the little Satan, and they believe the United States is... is the big Satan. That is what propels this regime every single day since they came to power in 1979. So I don't blame Israel for what it's doing. Of course, Iran also fuels all these terrorism groups, Hamas, Hezbollah. These are all proxies of Iran. So for Israel right now, they're in a fight for their very existence. They've got the regime on its knees. And to be honest with you, I think it's time they finish the job. The president of the United States, Donald Trump, who you know I support strongly, has said that we can have no peace if Iran has a nuclear weapon. And I think he's exactly right.
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Okay, now Scott Jennings is joining us from Amman, Jordan. Before I ask you about what role the United States should play in this war, actually, between Israel and Iran, I don't want to give anything up that I'm not supposed to ask you, but may I ask you how you got from Israel to Amman, Jordan?
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Sure. Well, I got up this morning and had arranged for some transportation to take me to the Allenby border gate. which was quite an adventure, I have to tell you. It was a little bit of a chaotic journey to get out of the country, get into Jordan, and get over to Amman. It took me virtually all day to do it. A lot of people are trying to get out because the airspace is closed over Israel. The airport, Ben-Gurion Airport, is closed. So really the only way to escape is to drive into Jordan. You can't drive into Lebanon. You can't drive into these other places. The only way to get out is to go to Jordan and get over to Amman, and that's what I'm trying to do. It was a little bit of a chaotic experience, but we did make it today.
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That's the understatement of the week. I know your family. I've just been praying for you. I've just been following everything you're doing on social media and just praying for you and making sure that you get out of there safely because it is obviously a very, very challenging time. Let me get your wisdom before we let you go about the role that the United States should play, must play. You know the debate that's raging. I'm sure you've seen the pot shots taken between Mark Levin and Tucker Carlson, you know, Tucker is big. We can't let them fight it out. This is their war. What do you think about the role of the United States and what we should be doing? Because I'm sure you're hearing the same pushback I'm hearing from my audience. A lot of people are saying, we don't want boots on the ground. We don't want to be really an integral part of this war. But in many ways, Scott, I think we have to be, don't we?
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Well, we don't have to put boots on the ground. I mean, my understanding is the principal nuclear enrichment facility is so far underground, we apparently are the only people with the bunker buster bomb big enough to get to it. And we should either use it or somehow allow Israel to use it. That's my opinion. And I'm following the president's lead. He has said that America first foreign policy will not allow for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. And I think he's exactly right because they'll use it. I mean, they will use it immediately. And it's bad for us. It's bad for Israel. It's bad for the world. So how do you stop them from using it? Well, you destroy it. Or you have some negotiation. But negotiation here, if you leave this regime in charge, I'm just telling you, they're not going to stop. They can say they will, but you can't trust these folks any farther than you can throw them. And my view is not only the nuclear weapon is a problem, but look what they've done. I mean they've killed Americans, okay? This regime has killed Americans. They plot to kill Americans. They plot to fund and unleash terrorism against Israel and America's interests around the world. I don't have any reason to believe they're going to change their stripes after a negotiation. So I think when you've got the head of the octopus in the position we've got it in, we should just finish the job or let Israel or help Israel finish the job. And when we do, Donald Trump, the president of the United States, will deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. They should have already given it to him for the Abraham Accords. finish the job on Iran, and he'll deserve it again because he'll have made the world a safer and better place. The fight for Western civilization is happening now. The president, Donald Trump, is the leader in that fight, and I think beating Iran right now and cutting off the head of this octopus, eliminating radical Islamic terrorism, and saving the free world, it's on his shoulders, and he has the power to do it, and I believe that he will.
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Scott, did you know that today is the 10th anniversary? It was 10 years ago today. that Donald Trump came down that golden escalator at Trump Tower and announced he was running for president?
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I read that, and look what's happened in the world. Look at what we're on the brink of here. The Middle East has been remade. In the last few days, the Middle East is being remade. October the 7th was the biggest foreign policy blunder in the history of the radical Islamic jihadists. They made a huge mistake because I've been traveling Israel. They have so much resolve to defeat radical Islamic terrorism, and now they have resolve to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon. And Donald Trump, I think, was part of this amazing, elaborate ruse to trick the Iranians into a false sense of security enough for Israel to begin to take them out. I think the president has been integral in all this. His leadership is allowing us to make the world safer for the American people, for our special partner. Israel. The fight is now. We've got the enemy on its knees, and you don't have to put boots on the ground, and you don't have to engage in nation building. You just have to engage in a little bit of smart play here, which Donald Trump is really good at and he's known for. I trust the president. I know there's a debate raging, and whatever decision he makes, I'll back him. But my strong opinion is he's right. Allowing them to have a nuclear weapon is not possible if you believe in america first foreign policy that's the president's statement so however he decides to go about doing that i'll support it uh but i think i think the people who want us to look the other way here it's just it's not possible allowing iran to get a nuclear weapon it's bad for the united states it's bad for israel it's bad for the free world scott jennings we're grateful for your voice but more importantly we're grateful that you're safe please get home safely thanks for checking in with us and uh and godspeed keep fighting the good fight okay All right, thanks for having me on and for praying for me, and thanks for keeping Israel in your prayers. This is a special partner for the United States. This isn't just another country. This is Israel, and they deserve our support.
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Amen. Thanks, Mike. Thank you, Scott. Safe travels. Scott Jennings, CNN, joining us from Amman, Jordan. I didn't know that he managed to get out of Israel, thank the Lord. And again, I feel so terrible for those who are in Israel right now, but it's a way of life to go into the bomb shelters over the years. Many of you have supplied bomb shelters for Israel thanks to our partnership with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. We hope to check in with Yael Eckstein sometime this week. So a lot going on. And I'm with him. No way to boots on the ground. And that isn't necessary. But we must, must support the state of Israel in its battle against Iran. If not... We absolutely face an existential threat. You think Iran wants to stop at Israel? And honestly, do you think any of this would have been happening if it weren't for President Trump's election? If Joe Biden was sitting in the White House, would Israel have felt the ability to be emboldened enough to go after Iran? Iran's nuclear capabilities. Let me get your take on all of it here in the Relief Factor studios for a Monday. I'm glad you could join us. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. Give me your take on the things that Scott said. Does President Trump deserve the Nobel Peace Prize if they can establish some level of measure of peace between Israel and Iran if Iran comes to the table? 800-655-MIKE. Give me your take on all of it as we welcome you in. I hope you join us.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis. Morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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I think on Army 250 and with the world at war, I think the main Trumpian thing was to almost pay no attention to this. I think that's been identified as fakery. But high-quality fakery these days. It's good fakery. It certainly captured his tone.
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It sure did. And speaking of the No Kings protest, I loved listening to you. I started to go over to St. Pete. They had one over by the Tyrone Square Mall, and I thought, nah. So what? They had a few hundred people in St. Petersburg.
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Do you believe the five million national figures?
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Let them march. But here's what's fascinating. When you look at all the video of all the crowds that gathered to protest No Kings, which is rich coming from a political party that anointed Kamala without one vote cast.
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With no votes, no primaries, just elevator. Oh!
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And speaking of that process, by the way, where Joe Biden was forced aside like I predicted he would be. You did on the back here. I finished a book last night that is so good, so riveting and such a good. And for dummies like me, it's not too long a book and it's an easy read. Large print and pictures. Pictures. Big pictures, big – no, it's called Uncharted, How Trump Beat Biden, Harris, and the Odds. Chris Whipple. And wow, is it a good read, Mark, because it's – and you know who they give credit to as far as Trump's presidency and the victory and the discipline? Yeah. Susie Wiles. I totally believe it. The book absolutely – and I do too. I mean, it's very well sourced and reported.
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She ain't kidding around.
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She's a staffer that you don't know. Mm-hmm. Yep. Susie Wiles, daughter of Pat Summerill, you know, which is fascinating. But, you know, just an incredible, strong-willed, tough lady and first female chief of staff in American history for the White House.
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And they say she holds it all together. How is that possible? Oh, I know. But the Trump world hates women. It's very anti-woman. It's very dismissive toward women. Oh, Tulsi Gabbard, Susie Wiles, Kristi Noem.
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For a misogynist, he doesn't do a very good job of it. But I love this. Vince Langman, who I follow on X, said this. When you look at the video of all the protests, he said, is it just me or were all the people who showed up at the No Kings protests old, angry white women and their low testosterone husbands? I mean, but you know what? You want to play a game with the No Kings protests? Yeah. Try to find the black guy.
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Try to find the Hispanics.
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Where's Waldo? There's no people of color in any of these.
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Why is that? Angry white leftist cranks.
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And they're all boomers. They're all like 60 and older. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. And they don't even ruffle me at all because what did they accomplish? Mark, what did they accomplish?
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Sound and fury signifying nothing.
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Nothing? What did they do? I saw that kid, that Harry Sisson, the young Democrat influencer. He said, oh, there were 20 billion people all over America. America is done with Trump. Well, what exactly does that mean, Harry? Done how? He's still your president, kid. He isn't going anywhere, and he's doubling down on ICE. That's the other thing we're going to have to navigate. All right, so over the weekend, he signals he's going to let his foot off the gas when it comes to illegals who work in the farming industry or the hospitality industry. And people were losing their minds saying, no, no, no.
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But it's a complicated thing, Mark. This is nuanced. I know it is. I mean, go where they are. I mean, if it's like the old Willie Loman, why do you rob banks? Because that's where the money is. It's a clumsy connection. But you go where the illegals are is never a bad idea.
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It's not a bad idea. And then we've got to talk about Minnesota because I've got to get this off my chest. Go for it.
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For those who don't know, a monster has been caught. I'm surprised he was caught alive. He, over the weekend, shot a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband. They are dead. Shot another Minnesota lawmaker and his wife. They are alive. Since they were the only Democrats to sort of break ranks and go along with a law in Minnesota that would have impeded a certain amount of aid to illegals, a lot of people went, ha, ha. There you go. They were killed for not being Democrat enough, and they found like a No Kings poster in his car. But they also found a track record of a lot of pro-life stuff, a lot of anti-LGBTQ stuff. So that's real murky, but everybody instantly went into it. He's one of yours. No, he's not. He's one of yours. No, he's one of yours. It was a huge mess. Go.
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Well, and we didn't do this when a Bernie Sanders supporter tried to kill all the congressional Republicans at the baseball field. We didn't do that. We didn't blame Bernie Sanders. We didn't blame the Democrat Party. We blamed the guy with the gun. We blamed the person that pulled the trigger. I was really sickened. And this was a good weekend for me to kind of stay off social media. Not really stay off. I was watching, but I wasn't posting because I thought... Let the game come to us, as you always say. Let's find out the facts. But we've got to knock this off. And look, they're not going to knock it off on the left. Now, of course, they're blaming Trump because the guy appears to be, and incidentally, nothing about this story makes sense. The Papa John's delivery guy that's the roommate, the big, fat, sweaty guy who's giving these weird interviews about... Trust no one.
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Believe nothing.
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Believe nothing, but something about this seems so kooky. He had a wife and five kids and a big, beautiful home, but he had two roommates, including this Papa John's guy, who's reading the alleged killer's texts on his phone. Wait a minute. Didn't the police confiscate this guy's phone? Why is he getting to read the texts? And then he says, oh, he he was a Trump supporter and I like Trump and he listened to Infowars and I followed Alex Jones. I'm thinking, no, no, no, no, no. Something about this.
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But what gave it what gave some energy to some on our side is he was a Tim Walz appointee to a business council. And listen, that sometimes happens.
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He was also a Mark Dayton appointee. He was also appointed by the Republican predecessor. But that's folly. That whole business of, you know, what's the idea? Forget it. Did you see Eric Swalwell? Trump is America's Hitler. The day these two people were murdered in cold blood, the day enough... Trump is America's Hitler. And that's a prominent Democrat. There's your Democrat part. Look, it's rich hearing Tim Walz say, well, now he's saying turn down the temperature. Now he's saying we've got to... What? You were just saying bully the crap out of Trump a week or two ago. You were just saying we've got to be meaner. I mean, but I've got to resist that temptation, Mark, because I don't want to blame Tim Walz for what this guy did either.
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No, and there are people who said, you know, Tim Walz should resign. One of his appointees... appointees. What? No, just no. And even if this guy winds up to have a big heaping helping of your politics and mine in his heart and in his head, that's not what made him kill people.
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The people that are responsible are the people who are responsible.
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And we would say the very, very same of a leftist inclined killer.
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I will conclude with this in my Pollyanna Mother Teresa moment, because I am feeling this today. It wouldn't hurt all of us to lower the temperature a little bit. I don't think it would kill this country to sort of lower the temperature. By the way, especially Democrats... But our side, too, let's just ramp it down a little bit. I worry about the safety of all of these elected representatives, Democrat and Republican. There are a lot of kooks out there, a lot of nutty people who are real revved up right now.
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Which, by the way, is why, just to tie a bow around the whole no kings idiocy, but at least it was idiocy without a death toll for the most part. I don't think somebody got shot in Salt Lake City. But generally speaking, it was a bunch of people. They're all upset, yada, yada. And they came, they went, and there you go. And it seemed like free speech on parade, which is a good American thing.
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Well, I agree with the fake Donald Trump and the fake post. The king was kept from taking his place. There are no more kings. And so we can breathe a sigh of relief and get ready to take on another week.
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Oh, by the way, I think it's Guy Benson. You know what the real No Kings Day is? July 4th. Fourth of July. You better believe it.
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Wow. What will tomorrow bring? I guess we'll find out tomorrow. And I hope you'll join us. Thanks for being a part of the Mike Gallagher Show for a Monday. Keep it here all day long for news, opinion, passion. Have a terrific day. Be safe and keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
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Hello, hello, hello. Happy Monday, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in to Shooting the Breeze today. I always appreciate each and every one of you for stopping in and listening to me rant for a while, and I hope to hear from somebody today at some point. Happy Mother's Day, by the way, to all the mamas out there. Hopefully you got spoiled a little bit yesterday. Had a lovely birthday and Mother's Day weekend. Yes, Friday was my 60th birthday. Oh, my God. Luke, how did that happen? How did I get 60?
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Time passed, I suppose.
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It's just unbelievable because in my mind, you know, I'm still like this adolescent kind of, you know, I've got this way of thinking that just puts me in a different mindset. I'm not 60. I can't be 60. Anyway, so I had a great birthday with my daughter. She took me to this great little painting and cocktail places that you can go to, and I created a masterpiece. I'm just kidding. I have absolutely no artistic skills whatsoever, but my piece turned out pretty well, maybe slightly better than Hunter Biden's watercolor, you know, straw blowing things that he did that he's selling for a million dollars that, you know, use the straw that he used to do a line five minutes earlier, but whatever. I think it's okay. But it was very fun and had a very lovely dinner with my family that night. And then I got to go, my daughter actually had to work on Mother's Day. So we went to the hospital and had lunch with her and it was fantastic. But Franktown firearms. So you guys have to come check out what's new is it's to say the place has gotten the makeover is the understatement of the century and the shoot house is opening up for classes this week. And if you have any questions about the shoot house courses and if you don't even know what the shoot house is, I strongly encourage you to find out what that is. It's an indoor facility, four rooms, hallways, doorways, different locations for different targets and different scenarios. And you just have to check it out. It's one of a kind in the state. You guys are going to want to go and train there and get the practical training. The practical training that you need to keep yourself safe in your house or when you're out and about or whatever, these courses are going to be super fun but intensive, and you're going to learn a lot. So call the shop at 720-770-7777 if you want to ask somebody about the shoot house or perhaps come in and ask somebody to show it to you. They'll be more than happy to do that. This facility is going to blow your mind. and you're not going to find this kind of training anywhere else. It's going to get you through any situation with confidence, and at least you're going to have this in your back pocket as sort of a platform on which to base your real-life situations. And God forbid, hopefully that never happens to you, but this kind of training is invaluable, so you're going to want to check it out. So this morning, I guess some major crash on I-70. I'm sure a lot of you listening right now were probably stuck in that mess. My husband was stuck in it for quite a while. That was insane. I guess the driver, I don't know, according to KDVR, the Aurora PD told Fox 31 that a call came in at 1230 in the morning today that semi-driver had reportedly swerved to avoid sudden braking and crashed into the pole of an overhead electronic sign. And the truck... Ironically, nowadays, it's kind of funny to hear this part, but the truck was carrying cases and cases of eggs, which are now strewn all over the highway. One lane, I guess, was opened around 6 a.m. this morning. The truck driver was taken to the hospital with minor injuries, which is a miracle, if you ask me, because the pictures of this crash and the cab of that truck look absolutely devastating. So prayers to everyone involved with that. I can't even imagine. So I'm going to start out today by talking about something that I read this morning, and you've heard me talk about prepping in the past, prepping and survival and, you know, just all the stuff that you need for that. I'm always encouraging people to have an extra supply of food and water, medical supplies, maybe a generator or two and batteries and flashlights and a bug-out bag and all that good stuff. Anyone who considers themselves preppers knows have all of this and much, much more. But what about a situation where it's not really the end of the world, Mad Max kind of scenario, you just run out of gas and deep in the mountains or you get lost on a hike at a time when you're not fully prepared for it? Now, we talk about the dangerous RF, right, radio frequency, and how our phone screens are damaging our eyes and that cell phones are not good for anyone in general and to reduce screen time for our kids and all of that stuff. But we all have a cell phone with us at all times. You do. I do. Most people do. And an article from Survivopedia this morning talks about the 15 ways that that your cell phone could save your life. And I'm just going to say as an aside that with some of this information, it might be a good idea to even charge up an old, outdated phone that you've replaced and keep the old, outdated phone charged and handy. You don't have to be able to use it. You'll understand why here in a minute. And I will also preface this by saying that some of this, like the last half of it, are very apocalyptic. Like some of the scenarios here would only be necessary in very, very dire circumstances, which makes me wonder if the author of this article thought about the fact that if the grid goes down, Or if the doo-doo really hits the fan, having a cell signal is probably not in the cards. So I'm going to digress from that and just take this for what it is. But here we go. Fifteen ways that your cell phone can save your life. Starting out with the obvious and assuming that you're in an area that has cell coverage or if there's any cell coverage at all, you can call for help. Duh. Provided your smartphone is working, you can use it to call for help, potentially ending a survival ordeal shortly after it begins. Number two, you can relay your coordinates. Use your smartphone to give rescuers GPS coordinates and address or, you know, your location so they can find you. That's what also kind of stands to reason. It's very simplistic. Number three, it has a flashlight. We all know that. Pretty much all cell phones now have built-in flashlights. One guy with a small flashlight could save a large group of people during a 911 by helping them navigate dark stairwells obstructed by smoke or debris. A flashlight can help you find your way in the dark, find what you need to build a fire or to see to build shelter. So don't underestimate the utility of a humble flashlight. The fourth is emergency signal. This one I thought was really interesting. So your phone's screen can be used to reflect sunlight. You've seen all the old movies and stuff where they have the mirror and they direct the mirror towards the sun and they're flashing it, you know, to send out an SOS or whatever. So it can be used in that way, and that can be seen for a really long way away. Will Franzen fell overboard and was able to signal a boat using his wristwatch as a signal mirror after treading water for 24 hours. So your smartphone will definitely get the job done. If you have added an adhesive scratch-resistant screen cover to your phone, you may need to pull it off and rub any adhesive off the glass to get a good reflection. The phone's flashlight feature can be used for emergency signaling at night. Just use an object to cover the light to make it appear to flash. So basically what they're saying here is that you can send an SOS. If you do three long bursts of light followed by three short ones and then three long ones, so you would just cover or like turn it, you know, and just to create the long and short SOS signal. So even if a person who sees the light doesn't understand Morse code, signals in groups of threes is a universal distress code. So anybody with an IQ above room temperature who sees a light flashing in groups of three should either investigate or alert authorities. If you have called for help and relayed your coordinates, let them know that you will be attempting to signal using your cell phone as a signal mirror. And so people will be looking for that, which I think is pretty cool. The next one is land navigation. Smartphones have GPS and compass functions, making them first-rate navigation tools. Just don't get so dependent on using GPS to navigate that you stop noticing landmarks, which I think is very smart as well. And, you know, this brings me to maps. How many people these days know, young people especially, know how to read a map? And that's scary to me. I'm going to say I'm completely guilty of that. Our daughter would have no idea. She GPS, she Google Maps everything. So I wish that more people would, you know, kind of teach their kids, myself included, how to read a map, an actual physical paper map. And then he goes on to say, I'm not just being a crusty old survival writer here. More people are getting seriously lost since the proliferation of GPS than before it. Some of that is because there are more people, but some of it is because those people haven't developed the synapses in their brains that help them intuit direction. They are so dependent on staring at screens that they no longer pay attention to where they are going. Some of them don't even bother to learn to use a map and compass. If that's you, look up from your screen and start paying attention. Also realize the GPS is way more likely to tell you to drive into a lake or off a cliff in the middle of the wilderness than in a metropolis. Pay attention accordingly. And that's true, too. I think I've told the story. I was trying to find a a location where our daughter was having volleyball practice. And I'd never been there before, and it was at night, it was in the winter. And so we were driving around, and it was Apple Maps that I was using, and it kept telling me turn right here, but it was into like a row of bushes. So we just ended up going home. Like I had no idea where it was. I didn't see enough cars to think that maybe this is it. And we just went home because the Apple Maps thing was incorrect, and I didn't know where I was going. And so, again, I guess I was guilty of not reading a map or bringing a map. So number six is monocular. Some cell phones have optical and or digital zoom cameras enabling them to see distant objects more clearly than with the naked eye. Using the digital zoom on the trail can tell you that if a hiker is part of your party or not and enable you to scan his waist and hands for weapons, which I think is kind of cool. Again, gloom and doom, apocalyptic kind of stuff. Number seven is magnifying glass. Just as some cameras can be used as a monocular to see distant objects, they can also be used to magnify objects close up when the camera is switched to the correct setting, which is probably labeled macro. Using this setting, some smartphones can be used like a magnifying glass to find small slivers, eye particles, or they can help us old folks read instructions that are too small to see. Number eight, take photos and videos. I don't think I need to elaborate on that. Number nine, alert you to danger. Most phones can alert you to danger through wireless emergency alerts without installing an app or subscribing to a device or to a service. And then he goes on to say, I was camping on Lake Powell one year on Lone Rock Beach and cell phones and radios with NOAA all hazard weather radio, same technology, started vibrating and emitting the weather emergency alert tone, I guess is what that means, and started squawking, warning of high winds. The warning gave just enough time to gather up Everyone or everything that wasn't staked to the ground before a microburst came tearing through the beach. I'm no newbie to high winds or sandstorms on Lake Powell, so our tents were staked down with sand hog stakes. When it was all over, my two Katoma CVCTVI tents were the only tents on the beach that weren't in the lake. It broke from lines and poles and whatever. So he goes on to talk about how it can alert you to danger. Digital survival library. Now, this is where you're going to have to have a cell phone signal in order to, you know, reach this kind of information. Using your smartphone as a survival library can save you in many more ways. It can provide you with survival manuals and reference material, including first aid instructions, how to tie knots, how to build a fire, build a shelter, treat water, procure food, and so on. Reference material includes shelter-in-place instructions, how to build an improvised fallout shelter, decontamination instructions, repair manuals, and how-to instructions to survive the apocalypse. So obviously, again, very apocalyptic. The next one is, and these are going to involve destroying your cell phone, which is why I said to keep a charged old phone in your car or in your backpack. They don't weigh that much. Just throw one in there. You can start a fire. It says if you remove your cell phone's battery, it can be used with a conductor such as wires from your headphones or charging cable to start a fire. The battery should produce some voltage even if your phone says it's at 0%. That means that it isn't producing enough voltage to power your smartphone's circuits, and it doesn't necessarily mean that the battery is not producing any voltage, so be sure to give it a try even if your cell phone tells you your battery is at zero. Batteries can also be used with steel wool or incandescent flashlight bulb filaments to start a fire, and that sounds to me like you would have to destroy your flashlight as well. If your battery is not producing enough voltage but you have more than one battery available, batteries of the same voltage and capacity can be wired into series to increase the voltage produced by the circuit. And once again, there's a lot of people in this generation and even older generations that wouldn't even know what in the hell this guy's talking about, wiring something in series. I know some... male humans that barely even know how to turn a screwdriver. So this is kind of concerning all the way around. But anyway, I will continue. Making a cutting tool. You can break your phone's screen and use a sliver of it as a cutting tool. More expensive smartphones typically have glass screens, and cheaper ones have plastic screens. You can make a cutting tool from either material, but glass is obviously going to be much sharper. Glass can also be pressure flaked into cutting tools, scraping tools, and projectile points in much the same way as our ancestors used obsidian and flint to make tools. You can make a compass, it says. Everybody reading this website probably knows that the magnet from a good pair of headphones can be used to magnetize a needle or a similar ferrous object which can be floated on a leaf and the north pointing pole used here. for a compass. There are usually easier ways to determine where magnetic north is, such as celestial navigation. The permanent magnets in headphones are usually flat cylindrical magnets. Smartphones usually have at least two speakers, one for calls and one for the bottom audio, but the permanent magnets are covered, whatever, whatever. So it goes on to talk about how you can make a compass out of the magnet in the cell phone. Again, this is all stuff that you would obviously have to research on how to do. You can make cordage. The wire in a headphone and charging cables can be used as cordage. Some cables even come in fabric sheaths like Kern mantle sheath on paracord. This can also be used as cordage, or you can also make cordage from any article of clothing you are wearing. And then, finally, you can make a fish hook. Parts of your smartphone circuit board and plastic and or metal body can sometimes be used to make fish hooks. At the very least, they can be used to make gorge hooks. So very interesting stuff. Just a little device can possibly, you know, offer you a lot of life-saving things that Smartphone accessories, it says, are every bit as important as the device itself with accessories such as a battery bank with a solar panel and a universal charging cable. You can keep your battery charged as long as you can expose the solar panel to sunlight every couple of days. That's it. So there you go. Your current phone, keep your current phone, keep an old phone charged up and throw it in in case you get into a situation where you have to smash your phone and make a fishhook out of it. I don't know. I just thought that was... Kind of interesting stuff, all the survival stuff. I get those emails. I think it's kind of interesting. So next up and for the remainder, well, maybe not the whole entire remainder of the show, but I'm going to talk about our perpetual journey to better health. And it's a daunting task to navigate everything that we're subjected to, right? We've all heard the stories about our food supply, and we often wonder if we're actually even eating food anymore. I think that all the time. Every time I get a piece of chicken, even if it's a natural Purdue chicken breast from the grocery store, it's like, is this real? Am I eating lab-grown meat here? What is this? And then, you know, we've got the petroleum-based dyes and the additives and pesticides, herbicides and fillers and chemicals of all kinds are in almost everything that we buy at the store, right? RFK Jr. is trying, trying to get, you know, food dyes, for example, eliminated from our food. And I guess the FDA has recently green-lighted the push to replace the chemical dyes with natural alternatives. But as you know, the wheels turn very slowly. So who knows when we'll actually see, you know, beet powder being substituted for red 40 or whatever. It could take a while. It could be years. Who knows? But the obvious ones are things like fast food and soda and chips and crackers and processed meats and seed oils and whatever. all that stuff, like those found in the seed oils especially. Every single salad dressing that we eat has some kind of heinous seed oil in it. So we think we're eating this healthy salad and then it turns out, you know, no, you're killing yourself because it's got, you know, sunflower oil in it or whatever. It's so frustrating. And then we have the toxins in our personal care products, shampoo and body wash. which body wash is probably the worst because the skin is the largest organ on the body, and so we're just slathering ourselves with all these chemicals. The skin creams and lotions and conditioners and our toothpaste and the deodorant that has aluminum in it, and the list goes on and on and on. You know it. The chemicals that we encounter just by cleaning our house, the window cleaner, the floor cleaners, furniture polish, the air fresheners, All of it, absolute poison. And did you ever think, I know that everybody knows that their water is chlorinated. The water that comes out of your tap has chlorine in it, right? We know this. Okay, I'm going to tell you a story here in a second. But the amount of chlorine and fluoride in our water would make your head spin. And we just kind of live with the thought of having a neurotoxin and a carcinogen in our water supply. And that should just tick everybody off to no end. This story, I saw a video a while back, quite a while, probably six, nine months or something. This woman was doing chlorine tests on her water, and it wasn't just a test on her water. She was using test strips to test her water to see, you know, just what the level was. But then she put tap water into a glass and she put a test strip in it and she read very high chlorine levels, obviously, because we know that our tap water has chlorine levels. And we usually put our water through a filter or whatever. If you know, that's what you do. My mom used to drink tap water. It used to drive me crazy. But then in this glass, so she puts the test strip in. It reads very high in chlorine. She takes the test strip out. She puts her hand in there. So she takes her whole hand in a fist, and she puts it down into the water, and she leaves her hand in there for about 10 seconds. She pulls her hand out. She puts another test strip in the water. And lo and behold, the chlorine was almost nothing. So where did the chlorine go? It went into her body through her skin. So we're even poisoning ourselves every time we take a shower or wash our hands. So we're trying to read labels. We're trying to check for, you know, contains bioengineered food ingredients and I mean, heck, now we're even checking for crickets and mealworms in our food. At least I am. We're taking supplements by the dozens in hopes of reversing some of the damage that's being caused by what we eat and what we put on our bodies and laundry detergent and everything else. And then we may or may not discover things like Soursop or Methylene Blue or ECGC, and those are becoming more popular as people, you know, kind of navigate and try to get a handle on their health and wellness. But when you jump down the rabbit hole of health and wellness, you will discover that our food is just the beginning. If you have a major health challenge that you're dealing with, And that's when you discover most of what I'm talking about. You want to do everything you can to optimize your health and to heal yourself, to enable your body to rejuvenate and to heal itself, as we were designed to do. You want to research everything so you can optimize yourself. And, you know, so you start researching, if nothing else, out of desperation, right? Because you want to find out what can I do for myself outside of the doctor's office. So when you start researching things, you discover that the medical industrial complex and big pharma are literally hiding everything from you. You find supplements and procedures and these different kinds of complex herbs and other alternatives to taking pills. and you quickly discover an entire world of things that you never knew about. Yes, you'll get some exercise, you'll work out, you try to change your habits and not be so sedentary, and you take the standard supplements, maybe a multivitamin, and you read food labels and you try to avoid what you believe to be toxins, even though just for somebody to look at a bottle of salad dressing and say sunflower oil, well, that doesn't sound toxic. It's sunflower oil. It's palm oil. What's wrong with that? So you have to know these things, right? There are things that you can do, although maybe not proven by mainstream science, but you're reading and learning about alternative medicine, why it works, and the more you research, the more sense it makes to you. So as you keep learning, you maybe start to read about grounding, right? Grounding is supposed to put your body in direct contact and in tune with the earth's frequency and promote healing and overall wellness and sleep better and less joint pain and all kinds of stuff is related to grounding. And maybe you've heard about tuning forks or other frequency devices and how different frequencies can promote healing, even regeneration. There's vibration plates. that are good for lymphatic drainage and mobility, and sometimes they can simulate exercise depending on the level that you put it at. You can go to a holistic practitioner and get things like hocket treatments. As a side note, there is something that I've recently learned that probably not many people know, and that is the frequency of fabric therapy. This is really interesting. And when we get back from our break, I'm going to read some things to you on the subject of fabric and the different frequencies that it can offer and what we might be doing to ourselves. We'll be right back.
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And we are back. So I was just talking about some different, I don't know, alternative means of helping yourself and helping to promote healing and wellness and all that kind of stuff. And the subject of fabrics, I think, is sort of new. I mean, it's new to me anyway. So I'll just say that it's new to me. And I found it very interesting. And I'm going to read something to you on the subject, and I'll get back to this other stuff in just a minute. But first, I'm going to take Johnny. Johnny, what do you got for me?
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Okay. I'm reading this book. I think it's called 80-10-10. And in this book, he talks about, and doctors, they either know this or they're pretending that they don't know it. So you've got diabetes, too. And they always tell you, don't eat any fruit because it'll put too much sugar in your body. But what the real thing is, eating fats, foods with fat in it, that diversely affects the body. And if you do, instead of, you know, decreasing fruit, increasing that and And I see a lot of these herbalist shows where they say, well, they reverse the diabetes. And I come out and say, well, how do they do that? And it's just by doing the opposite of what the doctors tell you. Yeah, yeah. And that's very scary. Yeah. And they know this, but a big farmer, they won't make any money if they tell people because who would need insulin? Yep, yep.
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We're going to get deep into that, too, in a few minutes here.
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Okay, and then one last thing. Okay, so I have my brother. He had a stroke in October. So they feed him through his stomach. They have him sort of like in this traumatic kind of thing. So then he comes out of it. Then my sister-in-law, instead of, because the body is, what, 70% water, instead of feeding him foods that have liquid in it, she goes back to the SAD diet, sausages, eggs, pancakes. no vegetables at all, and then he declines again. And I said, they gave me a window where you could do something different, but instead you go back to the sad guy that probably got him into this condition in the first place.
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Right. Yep. Yep.
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It's just very frustrating.
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Yeah, it is frustrating. And what's more frustrating is that the medical industrial complex, which I'm going to, like I said, I'm going to talk about here in a minute, is is keeping all this stuff from us, and it's maddening and should institute a revolt. Thank you for your call, Johnny. I appreciate it. God bless. So the concept of fabric frequencies suggests that different materials vibrate at different frequencies. And as we all know, or maybe you don't know, we all, everything has a frequency, everything. This computer in front of me, obviously, these books above my head right now have a frequency to them. And this can impact human energy and well-being. Natural fabrics like linen and wool are believed to have higher frequencies, potentially promoting health while synthetic fabrics like polyester have lower frequencies, which might not be as beneficial. A study conducted by Dr. Heidi Yellen in 2003 suggested that a healthy human body has a frequency of 100, while fabrics also possess frequencies. Linen and wool, for example, were found to have frequencies of 5,000, whereas polyester had a frequency of 10,000. according to a blog on Salts and West clothing. So the theory proposes that fabrics with higher frequencies can enhance well-being while those with lower frequencies might be energetically draining. Example of fabric frequencies. So we have linen, which is 5,000 hertz. Wool is 5,000 hertz. Organic cotton is 3,500 hertz. Conventional cotton, 2,500 hertz. Silk is 5,000 hertz and polyester is 10 hertz. So synthetic fabrics like polyester often associated with lower frequencies potentially leading to negative energy impacts. Natural fabrics like linen and cotton are believed to have higher frequencies, which can be beneficial for energy and well-being. And then, of course, it gives a caution. It's important to note that the concept of fabric frequencies is not scientifically mainstream and is often considered part of alternative or complementary medicine practices. I love how they put that in there as if it's a bad thing. You know, they do all this stuff on purpose. It kind of makes me insane. But I guess the big takeaway here is that everything is poison, pretty much. Our food, our water, our air, our soil, our clothing even. You just can't escape it. And unless you have a bunch of extra money, you have no choice. And I'm going to get to the money part here in a second and kind of the knowledge part. But if you're on a fixed income, which I never really understood the term fixed income, aren't most people on a fixed income, meaning they work and they get a paycheck and then the paycheck doesn't really change unless they get a raise? Most people live paycheck to paycheck. So in actuality, it should be called low fixed income, right? as in people on disability or those who receive Social Security benefits, and those are people maybe on welfare and collecting food stamps or SNAP benefits or whatever. And trust me, they don't buy organic and shop the perimeter like we're always supposed to, right? I can assure you of that. But if you're on a fixed income, then you really have no choice, right? Take a good vibration plate, for example. I don't know if you guys have researched vibration plates, but if you're dealing with anything chronic or cancerous or whatever, look into a vibration plate, and you will see. I mean, you can get them cheaper if you consider $200 cheap, but they can run as much as $3,000. They can run as much as $7,000. And we have a red light system. a red light system that has a frequency built into it. So it produces red light, infrared light. I have, we have one that's got a violet light on it and it produces a frequency and you can set the frequencies for different things. And we bought this book that has these different frequencies for whatever kind of illness. I mean, the book is like an inch and a half thick and it's full of frequencies. And that system that we bought was $4,700. We got a grounding mat that And pillowcases, those were $400. And we got linen sheets, and those were $130. And then all the supplements, including, you know, the cell signaling supplement that we drink called ASEA, which alone is $450 a month. My husband's concierge naturopathic doctor is $2,500 a year. And all of his treatments that he goes to, $175 to $250 each. I'm talking thousands and thousands of dollars. And doing the math, on average, we spent about $1,800 per month last year on just the extra healthy things that we've added to our lives and stuff to help with health and wellness and recovery and healing and all that stuff. And we're blessed that we can do all this, but people of limited means are just stuck. they're stuck with whatever their insurance happens to cover, which, as you know, is just what the medical industrial complex has to offer and what insurance agrees to pay for. So those two things right there are, you know, that's kind of a kink in everything, you know, in terms of, like Johnny was saying, just you have to go with what they tell you to go with, and it could send you backwards in your health. And what the medical industrial complex will pay for is usually heinous drugs that make you sicker, pills and more pills, and then pills to counter the pills that you're already taking, which results in a need for different pills. And then there's that vaccine, that vaccine that 99% of mainstream doctors seem to be pushing, even to this day, that's killing so many people and maiming people and making them unable to work and all kinds of stuff. And you guys have heard me rant a lot about that. But the bottom line is that many people can't afford to eat certified organic everything. They can't afford to buy only pasture-raised chickens and eggs and grass-fed beef and wild-caught Alaskan salmon or halibut or a reverse osmosis system for their drinking water, which is another thousand dollars for a small one. Not everyone has the money to shop at natural grocers or an online retailer to buy their natural organic cleaning products or personal care products. That stuff is expensive. Expensive supplements, specialized equipment, or concierge doctors all cost a lot of money, and it's all out of pocket. Of course, insurance is not going to cover that. They're not going to cover your hocket treatment or your ozone blood transfusion. Are you kidding me? Which the stuff that actually helps is not going to be covered. It's only the stuff that's going to make you sicker that's going to be covered by insurance. People will just do what their mainstream doctor tells them to do while continuing to eat the garbage that we all know is slowly killing everyone. just as an example of how expensive some supplements are. And so, you know, people start with little bites of information, you know, that you might hear like, oh, this is good for that. Or, you know, you might start your research and then you go out to find this supplement and you're like, holy cow, I can't afford that. So black cumin seed. I'm sure you guys have all heard of black cumin seed. It's touted as being able to cure everything but death I don't know if you guys have heard that before, but that's what they say. That's what the ancients say, that it can cure everything but death. At natural grocers, a bottle of concentrated black seed oil, which is like 3% concentration or whatever in these capsules, it's nearly $50 for a bottle of this stuff, for one small little, you know, just like a normal supplement bottle. It's insane. And my husband and I were even talking yesterday about cooking oil. And he saw that we should avoid avocado and olive oil when we're cooking. Raw, yes. Drizzle it over your salads, sure. But to cook with it, you know, supposedly these are the best oils in the world, and avocado oil is the greatest thing for cooking, and it's the best for you. But the higher the temperature goes on these oils, which is obviously what you need to cook in them, that oil turns into a cocktail of rancid poison. And we've discovered through extensive seeking and searching that we should only be cooking with beef tallow or grass-fed butter. Those two, period, end of list. Now, rendering tallow is not hard to do. And I don't know if I've told you guys that I kind of – found myself rendering tallow, I wanted to start making skin products with tallow and had a hiccup and couldn't find a bulk supply of cod fat that I needed to use for tallow that requires the least amount of cleaning. And, you know, that's a whole other story in and of itself, but it's not hard. And you can also go to a natural food store and buy jars of tallow. But again, it's not cheap. And if you're planning on cooking with tallow or deep frying in tallow or whatever, which everybody should be doing, you know, you're going to pay for that. But again, not everyone has the time, the money, or the inclination to render their own tallow or to buy expensive grass-fed butter to cook with. Most people still cook with vegetable oil or canola oil. Because that's the thing. That's what you do. Remember the Mazzola, the big giant jugs of corn oil, and that's what we used to deep fry in and that kind of thing? And here's the hard truth. You can have all the money in the world to try to heal yourself and to do everything that you can do. You could be a billionaire, right? But unless you know about the alternative treatments that are out there and the alternative supplements and the herbs and all the red light and all the pocket and vibration plates and all the stuff that I mentioned, none of this talk about expensive grounding mats even matters. If you don't know that it's there, then you don't know what to get. And this is how it stands right now. Here's a little tiny bit of insight on why things are the way they are with regard to our health and our healthcare industry. And this audio that Luke's going to play for you is going to be kind of an eye-opener and kind of speaks to what I've been talking about. Check this out.
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Don't let anyone tell you it's not possible. Lifestyle choices play a significant role in the development and progression of most chronic diseases. This means that an individual's choices could be pivotal in the prevention and possibly the reversal of chronic disease. Type 2 diabetes, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, obesity, and even several autoimmune conditions are all reversible. with just diet and lifestyle modifications. The problem is our modern medical system does not teach doctors how to reverse chronic diseases with diet and lifestyle changes. They are taught to treat the symptoms of chronic diseases with pharmaceuticals. That is the model of our medical system. How do I know this? Because most medical schools don't even require students to take a single course on nutrition. If you are living with one of these diseases, know that there is hope for reversal. Do not give up hope and do not let a doctor tell you that your only option is pharmaceutical medication.
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So, yeah, and this is what is kind of the crux of everything. This is the problem. This is why Big Pharma is such a corrupt institution. They purposely keep this information hidden so the average Joe can't access it. You can guarantee that anyone in government or big banking or Big Pharma or whatever, they're using all the best stuff. all the best stuff. They probably don't take their own medications and their own chemo and all their own stuff. They've probably got access to stuff that we've never even heard of before, right? And most people don't know where to even start. And you obviously have to start somewhere. So if you're dealing with some kind of a chronic issue, I strongly suggest that you Start researching. Go to places like, I know this sounds crazy, but go to places like Instagram or search stuff on DuckDuckGo or some other place that's not going to censor things, and you will find these kinds of things. You can find naturopathic doctors that will give you some insight and all that stuff. If you search Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, you're going to find stuff, but you won't find it all because they censor it. If a video starts to blow up on any of those platforms and it's regarding a subject like alternative medicine, they'll take it down. And if people have had great success with, you know, Soursop or, you know, oxygen therapy like hydrogen peroxide, 35% food grade, you know, hydrogen peroxide to oxygenate the blood, that kind of thing, they'll take it down. Because it's not science. It's not proven science. Fauci didn't approve it, so therefore, you know, you shouldn't take it. And it's all by design. I've said it before. They don't want you healthy. If everyone on the face of the earth was healthy and well and only ever died of old age because their little bodies just simply wore out, nobody would have a need for big pharma or medicine in general, and the entire industry would cease to exist. And they can't have that. President Trump did just announce that drug prices are to be reduced by 59%, as well as decrease in grocery and gas prices. So, okay, that's okay. I guess we'll be able to obtain all the poisoned food and the pharmaceuticals for less of our fake money. Yay. I think this administration is doing all that it can right now to help the American people to... I don't know, to help with stuff. RFK Jr. is doing everything in his power, I think, to fix the health care system and the food industry. But it's slow going, and it'll take years, years that the good guys may or may not have, if they're even good guys. So I don't know. It remains to be seen. So I've got Sandra on the line. Sandra, what do you got for me?
SPEAKER 04 :
Miss Karen, I was just talking to my girlfriend on Whidbey Island today. She renders beef to the tallow, and she adds cream and lavender oil and makes a face cream.
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Yep, that's what I do, too. It's, yeah, I render it, and then I soften it and whip it, and I add, like, ylang-ylang or... Yep, all the essential oils. Frankincense is really good for your skin. So, yeah, that's all we use now.
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Yeah, I love it. Hey, just wanted to let you know that, gosh, timing is perfect. Thank you for all you do. God bless you, Karen. God bless you, too. Thank you.
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So, yeah, it remains to be seen if we have enough time for RFK Jr. to actually implement all the stuff that he wants to implement. But you never know. None of this may matter because we may become extinct just from lack of oxygen. I just read this headline this morning from the Climate Depot. It says, is an oxygen shortage going to replace the climate scare? Farewell to oxygen on planet Earth. NASA scientists predict Earth's atmosphere will lose its ability to sustain life. Photosynthesis will collapse as CO2 declines. Isn't that something? The article says that in a billion years, the Earth won't be able to sustain complex life. So you can go ahead and proceed with your dinner plans tonight. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, but It's just so ironic to me, though, that the climate alarmist lunatics have been screeching for so long and so loud for so many years about CO2 levels being the end of the world that they failed to consider that plants need CO2 to live and to perform photosynthesis. And the article also says that the sun's rays will get more intense as they have, and for hundreds of years, and that's going to go on, and those intense increased sun's rays will alter CO2 molecules to such a degree that plants won't be able to use them. So that's, you know, like I said, it's a little ways off for sure. And then also I read another article today that I'm going to read to you because I think it's pretty interesting, and one thing that I did not mention was plastics. Now, everybody, like you can't drink tap water, so you've got to drink bottled water, okay? And bottled water is just as bad, just in a different way. It says here, this is from The Guardian, plastics and everyday objects may disrupt sleep in the same way as caffeine study finds. So this is just about sleep, but we know that microplastics are terrible for us anyway. But it says, chemicals in everyday plastics may disrupt the body's natural 24-hour sleep-wake cycle and circadian rhythm in a way similar to coffee, which increases the risk of sleep disorders, diabetes, immune problems, and cancer. New in vitro research shows. The study looked at chemicals extracted from a PVC medical feeding tube and a polyurethane hydration pouch like those used by long-distance runners. PVC and polyurethanes are also used in everything from kids' toys to food packaging to furniture. The findings showed for the first time how plastic chemicals probably wreak havoc on cell signals that regulate the body's internal clock, throwing it off by up to 17 minutes. The internal clock is incredibly important for physiology and overall health. Though more research is needed to know the precise consequences of exposure, said Martin Wagner, a study co-author and plastic chemical researcher with the Norwegian Institute of Science and Technology. The study adds to the increasing body of evidence that plastics contain compounds that cause a wide range of toxic effects. The authors wrote in a peer-reviewed study published in Environmental International. A fundamental shift in the design and production of plastics is essential to ensure their safety. The circadian rhythm is the molecular clock that regulates alertness and tiredness in relation to daylight and the dark. Shifting rhythms are linked to increases in the risk of obesity, dementia, and cardiovascular disease, among other issues. Research into plastic chemical toxicity most often focuses on how chemicals like, I don't know how to say this word, P-H-T-H-A-L-A-T-E-S. Phthalates, is that how you say that? The T is silent. I don't know. Phthalates and bisphenol impact the endocrine system and hormone-related effects, which can take years to manifest. The new paper looked for an impact through a different biological pathway cells. It checked for adverse effects on the adenosine receptor, which is a key component in cellular control of the internal clock that takes part in relaying signals that regulate circadian rhythm. The biological process of how the plastic chemicals affect the body is similar to caffeine, and its effect on the circadian rhythm and indices Eidosine receptor. Caffeine deactivates the eidosine receptor, thus increasing the circadian rhythm and keeping us awake. The plastic chemicals activate the eidosine receptor, but also have a similar effect in keeping us awake. The receptor is in the brain and sends signals to the body that say the sun is coming up, let's start the day. But when the adenosine receptor is activated by the chemicals, it may not relay the message. delaying the body's natural physiological processes while the process while the chemicals are not as potent as caffeine their impact on the cellular process happens much more quickly than plastics impacts on hormones what this means for body for the body is unclear but it's probably not good we don't know the significance of it and you could say oh it's just 15 minutes it's not that big of a deal but it's such a tightly controlled clock that it's a significant shift he added The study was done in vitro, meaning on human cells in a lab, and Wagner said the next step was to look at how the chemicals affect zebrafish, which have some similar physiological processes in their brains to humans. Future research will also look into which chemicals in plastic and PVC are affecting the sleep-wake cycle. PVC can contain any of 8,000 chemicals, some of which are not intentionally added but are byproducts of the production process. So the material is incredibly complex and difficult to manage. The findings of each study will be used to pressure lawmakers to enact regulations and to try to convince industry to remove the chemicals from the plastic, which this article itself says that you can't regulate them because you don't even know that they're there. You don't even know what they are. It's just these byproducts and everything else. So Chemicals, chemicals, chemicals. And we just can't escape it. So do your research. Find some great information out there to try to make yourself healthier in this increasingly toxic world that we live in. Thanks so much for joining me today. on Shooting the Breeze and the fastest hour in broadcasting. I really appreciate you guys being here. If you want some private training, give me a call or don't give me a call. Send me an email at karen at franktownfirearms.com and I'll be happy to set you up with some private training. Otherwise, look forward to the shoot house and the new concealed carry classes coming after July 1st. Mama Glock's out for now, everyone. Take care and God bless.
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The podcast also tackles the sensitive topic of a tragic shooting in Minnesota and the subsequent political blame game. As they discuss the public's quick judgment on political affiliations, Mike and Mark emphasize the importance of factual narratives over divisive rhetoric. Join them as they call for a more measured approach in political discourse, particularly concerning safety and stability in the political realm.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis. Morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's M&M experience.
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I think on Army 250 and with the world at war, I think the main Trumpian thing was to almost pay no attention to this. I think that's been identified as fakery. But high-quality fakery these days. It's good fakery. It certainly captured his tone.
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It sure did. And speaking of the No Kings protest, I loved listening to you. I started to go over to St. Pete. They had one over by the Tyrone Square Mall, and I thought, nah. So what? They had a few hundred people in St. Petersburg.
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Do you believe the five million national figures?
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Who cares? Let them march. But here's what's fascinating. When you look at all the video of all the crowds that gathered to protest No Kings, which is rich coming from a political party that anointed Kamala without one vote cast.
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With no votes, no primaries, just elevator. Oh!
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And speaking of that process, by the way, where Joe Biden was forced aside like I predicted he would be on the back here. I finished a book last night that is so good, so riveting and such a good. And for dummies like me, it's not too long a book and it's an easy read. Large print and pictures. Big pictures, big – no, it's called Uncharted, How Trump Beat Biden, Harris, and the Odds. Chris Whipple. And wow, is it a good read, Mark, because it's – and you know who they give credit to as far as Trump's presidency and the victory and the discipline? Yeah. Susie Wiles. I totally believe it. The book absolutely – and I do, too. I mean, it's very well sourced and reported. She ain't kidding around.
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She doesn't play. Chief of Staff, for those who don't know. Mm-hmm.
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Yep. Susie Wiles, daughter of Pat Sumrall, you know, which is fascinating. But, you know, just an incredible, strong-willed, tough lady and first female chief of staff in American history for the White House.
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And they say she holds it all together. How is that possible? Oh, I know. But the Trump world hates women. It's very anti-woman. It's very dismissive toward women. Oh, Tulsi Gabbard, Susie Wiles, Kristi Noem.
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For a misogynist, he doesn't do a very good job of it. But I love this. Vince Langman, who I follow on X, said this. When you look at the video of all the protests, he said, is it just me or were all the people who showed up at the No Kings protests old, angry white women and their low testosterone husbands? Yes. I mean, but you know what? You want to play a game with the No Kings protests? Yeah. Try to find the black guy.
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Try to find the Hispanics. Where's Waldo?
SPEAKER 04 :
There's no people of color at any of these.
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Why is that? Angry white leftist cranks.
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And they're all boomers. They're all like 60 and older. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. And they don't even ruffle me at all because what did they accomplish? Mark, what did they accomplish?
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Sound and fury signifying nothing.
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Nothing? I saw that kid, that Harry Sisson, the young Democrat influencer. He said, oh, there were 20 billion people all over America. America is done with Trump. Well, what exactly does that mean, Harry? Done how? He's still your president, kid. He isn't going anywhere, and he's doubling down on ICE. That's the other thing we're going to have to navigate. All right, so over the weekend, he signals he's going to let his foot off the gas when it comes to illegals who work in the farming industry or the hospitality industry. And people were losing their minds saying, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 03 :
But it's a complicated thing, Mark. I know it is. I mean, go where they are. I mean, if it's like the old Willie Loman, why do you rob banks? Because that's where the money is. It's a clumsy connection. But you go where the illegals are is never a bad idea.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not a bad idea. And then we've got to talk about Minnesota, because I've got to get this off my chest. Go for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
For those who don't know, a monster has been caught. I'm surprised he was caught alive. He, over the weekend, shot a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband. They are dead. Shot another Minnesota lawmaker and his wife. They are alive. Since they were the only Democrats to sort of break ranks and go along with a law in Minnesota that would have impeded a certain amount of aid to illegals, a lot of people went, ha, ha, there you go. They were killed for not being Democrat enough. But then...
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And they found like a No Kings poster in his car. But they also found a track record of a lot of pro-life stuff, a lot of anti-LGBTQ stuff. So that's real murky, but everybody instantly went into it. He's one of yours. No, he's not. He's one of yours. No, he's one of yours. It was a huge mess. Go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and we didn't do this when a Bernie Sanders supporter tried to kill all the congressional Republicans at the baseball field. We didn't do that. We didn't blame Bernie Sanders. We didn't blame the Democrat Party. We blamed the guy with the gun. We blamed the person that pulled the trigger. I was really sickened, and this was a good weekend for me to kind of stay off social media. Not really stay off. I was watching, but I wasn't posting because I thought, let the game come to us, as you always say. Let's find out the facts. But we've got to knock this off. And look, they're not going to knock it off on the left. Now, of course, they're blaming Trump because the guy appears to be... And incidentally, nothing about this story makes sense. The Papa John's delivery guy that's the roommate, the big, fat, sweaty guy who's giving these weird interviews about... Trust no one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Believe nothing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Believe nothing. But something about this seems so kooky. He had a wife and five kids and a big, beautiful home, but he had two roommates, including this Papa John's guy, who's reading the alleged killer's texts on his phone. Wait a minute. Didn't the police confiscate this guy's phone? No. Why is he getting to read the text? And then he says, oh, he was a Trump supporter, and I like Trump, and he listened to InfoWars, and I followed Alex Jones. I'm thinking, no, no, no, no, no. Something about this.
SPEAKER 03 :
But also, what gave some energy to some on our side is he was a Tim Walz appointee to a business council. And listen, that sometimes happens.
SPEAKER 04 :
He was also a Mark Dayton appointee. He was also appointed by the Republican predecessor. But that's folly. That whole business of, you know, what's the idea? Forget it. Did you see Eric Swalwell? Trump is America's Hitler. The day these two people were murdered in cold blood, the day another... Trump is America's Hitler. And that's a prominent Democrat. There's your Democrat part. Look, it's rich hearing Tim Walz say, well, now he's saying turn down the temperature. Now he's saying we've got to... What? You were just saying bully the crap out of Trump a week or two ago. You were just saying we've got to be meaner. I mean, but I've got to resist that temptation, Mark, because I don't want to blame Tim Walz for what this guy did.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and there are people who said, you know, Tim Walz should resign. One of his appointees... appointees what no just no just ever just no just no and even if this guy winds up to have a big heaping helping of your politics and mine in his heart and in his head that's not what made him kill people no so it's just the the people that are responsible are the people who are responsible but we would say the very very same uh of of a leftist inclined killer
SPEAKER 04 :
I will conclude with this in my Pollyanna Mother Teresa moment, because I am feeling this today. It wouldn't hurt all of us to lower the temperature a little bit. I don't think it would kill this country to sort of lower the temperature. By the way, especially Democrats. But our side, too, let's just ramp it down a little bit. I worry about the safety of all of these elected representatives, Democrat and Republican. There are a lot of kooks out there, a lot of nutty people who are real revved up right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which, by the way, is why, just to tie a bow around the whole no kings idiocy, but at least it was idiocy without a death toll, for the most part. I don't think somebody got shot in Salt Lake City. But generally speaking, it was a bunch of people. They're all upset, yada, yada. And they came, they went, and there you go. And it seemed like free speech on parade, which is a good American thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I agree with the fake Donald Trump and the fake post. The king was kept from taking his place. There are no more kings. And so we can breathe a sigh of relief and get ready to take on another week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, but I think it's Guy Benson. You know what the real No Kings Day is? July 4th. Fourth of July. You better believe it.
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In this episode, professional money manager Bill Gunderson shares his wealth of knowledge on assessing stock performance during uncertain times. Learn about the significance of resilience in top-performing companies and discover the latest insights into quantum stocks and their potential in cybersecurity. From tariff impacts to rare earth exploration, Bill offers a numbers-focused perspective on future market trends and the implications for global economic strategies.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Monday morning. It's Monday, June the 16th, and we have got a rally underway. This is Bill Gunderson. It's the Best Stocks Now show. And I'm here with Jeff Webster, who will be joining us here after we get through these numbers. The Dow right now is up. Well, 1.1%, not too bad to start a new week. And, of course, the quarter ends here two weeks from today. The Dow's up 447 points right now. What gives? The NASDAQ is up 255. It's up 1.3%. S&P 500 is up 64. That works out to 1.1%. And even the small caps are up here today having a good day. They're up 92 basis points. The bond market is basically flat. The 10-year is at 4.43%. Oil is starting to back down big time. It's down 3.5%. That's good news. Oil is down to $70.43 this morning. And, of course, with the big move up in stocks, you're going to get a move down in gold, and that's exactly what's happening here. They tend to work in opposite directions these days, gold working more as a hedge. On the scary days in the market, gold is down 1.37%. And last but not least, Bitcoin. Poor old Bitcoin. No, it's up $1,700 today to $107,188. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show. Manager Bill Gunderson, President of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Jeff Webster and the whole team headed down to Florida today. I'm leaving here right after the show, probably. Barry, too, leaving after the show. Jeff later today. We'll all be there tomorrow meeting with folks. And the workshop tomorrow night at 7 p.m. at the Evan Hotel, How do they answer their phones, Jeff? Have you called them? I have not called them. I don't know if it's Evan or Evan. I'll find out when I get there, when I pay my bill. That's right. When they hand me my bill. Here's your bill, Mr. Gunderson, for the Evan Hotel for your stay and all the facilities that you use. But I love going down there. It's going to be a fun trip. Jeff, you know, look, I have to come to the conclusion of a couple of things. And number one, as I did my macro outlook in the newsletter Saturday morning, I found that earnings estimates for 2026 and 2027 had gone up. Fairly significantly. Not a lot, but enough to matter. And, you know, I think the market, when all of this happened, number one, they expected tariffs to cut into earnings, obviously, because we had the big swoon in March. And then the war breaks out between Iran and Israel. And you're thinking, what impact will that have? Well, I would just say that with the action in the market today, This is my conclusion for now. Number one, the tariffs are not having any impact yet. They haven't shown up yet. They certainly haven't shown up in inflation yet. CPI numbers continue to be benign. PPI numbers continue to be benign. And the market continues to behave well. And the earnings estimates for 2026 and 2027, defying all the bears out there, And all the negative tariff talk, they've gone up. And so I raised my S&P 500 target price. I'm just a numbers guy, mathematician, not biased towards the market, definitely not a perma bull or a perma bear. I go by the numbers. And number two, I've got to come to the conclusion, and I weighed this out in my mind over the weekend and pondered it greatly, what impact will the war in the Middle East have on the markets and on the U.S. economy? I have to come to the conclusion, and I think the market has come to the conclusion also, that it's going to have very little impact. on U.S. earnings. What say you, Jeff? What are your observations of this terrific start to the market today?
SPEAKER 06 :
First of all, happy Monday, Bill. I hope you and all of our fathers out there had a great weekend. Had an opportunity to grill something on the barbie, smoke something on the grill, and enjoy some time with family. But, I mean, my take on the whole situation was how big of an escalation is this going to be? Is this a very short conflict? Is this going to turn into a war? I think the market's reading this right now as a conflict as opposed to a war. Who knows? I mean, we could get news at any moment that something changes. And it'll be interesting to see how things play out. But certainly the market right now is saying, you know what, we're not too worried about it. In fact, it's business as usual. Let's do goodness out here.
SPEAKER 03 :
I just find it amazing how the market is able to shrug things off. And you know what does it? It's the earnings that do it. I mean, when the earnings go up, expectations go up, how can the market be chewing its fingernails and worried about a recession and worried about a market big sell-off? when the earnings expectations have actually gone up. I think for an escalation to happen, you'd have to get more countries involved. And I think the market looks at this and says, you know, Iran really has no defense. They've inflicted some damage, yes, in Tel Aviv. But overall, I mean, they don't have much left. Hezbollah's gone. Hamas is gone. Who knows? Maybe the Ayatollah will be gone before this is all over, even though, like you say, Trump did not endorse that. But, of course, if Israel wants to take him out, they'll take him out. So, anyways, oil prices are settling down, and the markets move on. They move on through COVID. Why? Because of earnings. They moved on through the tariff war. Why? Because of earnings. Earnings were never impacted. And that just goes back to one of the biggest lessons I've learned over the years. And as I pass my knowledge on someday to the next generation of money managers that follow in my footsteps, I'm going to say follow the earnings, boys and girls. That's where it's at. Those are the breadcrumbs that are left behind by these S&P 500 companies. And you can fret over all you want to fret about in the markets. And at the end of the day, on Friday evening, Saturday morning, I focus, the focus returns to earnings. And that's driven me since 2009 as earnings have been going up since then. Now, at some point in time, those breadcrumbs, Jeff, are going to come to a halt and they're going to start going the other way. as earnings estimates start to be whittled away at and be lowered. But that has not happened. I mean, we had a brief spell of that during COVID. It didn't last very long. We had a little spell of that during the tariff wars. And I would also say this about the tariff wars, okay? Like I say, they're not showing up in inflation yet. Will they? Maybe. Down the road. China's at 30%. We buy a lot of Chinese goods. Prices are going up on Chinese goods. Maybe people will buy less Chinese goods. I don't know. But not showing up in inflation yet.
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I think, Bill, it's also a testament to the resilience of these companies. I mean, there's a reason they're called the best stocks. because they're the best companies they're run by very very smart people that are resilient they have teams that help them adapt their strategies and you know it it may be a bump in the road for a quarter or two but most of these organizations are able to pivot and make changes that uh are appealing to the capital markets out there.
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100%.
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And, you know, I would say that most financial managers don't pivot and don't adapt to the circumstances. Money managers, they do the same thing no matter what the circumstances are. I would just say that these CEOs set a pretty good example. They are in no means passive. Did you ever work for any passive managers in the software business, Jeff? I'll bet you didn't. They're pretty active. They have to be active. They have to keep the momentum going. And when the markets and the economy zigs a little bit, they better zig with it or they're going to get zagged. That's the way I look at things. And that's the way I look at money management also. And, of course, I'll be talking about this and a whole lot more tomorrow evening at 7 p.m. in Lakewood Ranch at the Evan Hotel. Edie, I'm sure, is traveling at some point here today, but she can be reached, if not her. Jennifer at 855-611-BEST to reserve a spot. 855-611-BEST. I don't know where we stand on the appointment calendar. I haven't even looked. I've been so busy. But you can call and see if there's a private meeting available with us on Tuesday and Wednesday between the hours of 7 and 7, a one-hour meeting with the team at 855-611-BEST. We'll be right back, and we're going to dig into this market a little bit more. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, I flipped through a few charts here today so far. A couple of them really jump off the page, and I know you're going to like one of them, Jeff. The first one that jumped off the page is AMD. Man, that thing has turned around. We added it to the relative value portfolio a few weeks back or maybe a month ago, something like that. And it's certainly headed in the right direction right now. It seems to have shrugged off the China restrictions, which according to Jensen Wang, those restrictions are not coming off. So they're just going to have to live with it. And in the meantime, China races towards an NVIDIA chip of their own through Huawei. They're not there yet. They're a generation behind. But obviously, they're playing catch-up. And ARKIT, look at ARQQ today. I just came to that one. I'm going through my charts in alphabetical order. It's up 23% today. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
unbelievable the the quantums today are again you never know what well what's going to happen each morning with uh they're they're you know rigetti's up qbts you know d wave q ubt up as well 16 so not sure what's happening in their realm i think i saw something about uh Jim Cramer indicating that maybe we should pay attention to a couple. I don't know how much weight you can put on that opinion.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that makes me a lot more bearish on him now. I was just getting excited. You know, me and Jim Cramer. Well, you know, actually, Jensen Wang turned around. and did about face and said we've reached an inflection point after he crushed the sector. I'd still be in the sector had it not been for that 55% crushing overnight by Jensen Wang several months ago when he said, oh, they're years away from quantum. Now he says, no, we're at an inflection point. Thanks a lot, Jensen. And, you know, he scared me out of the quantum stocks.
SPEAKER 06 :
They don't have much. Well, they are... Yeah, ARQQ, I was going to say, they're good because they're very specific on an application as it relates to cybersecurity. And a lot of these others are more platform-oriented. ARQQ tends to be a little more vertically oriented towards helping people organizations with cyber security.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. All right. So they're a little more specific. The one I think is probably maybe the best in the class is QUBS, isn't it? Is it Q-U-B-S or Q-U-B-T?
SPEAKER 06 :
There's QUBT and then QBTS. Yeah, QBTS. That's D-Wave.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's the one I like. It's up 7.7 today. But the other one, QUBT, is up 17% today. So maybe you just put a little bit in all three of them or all four of them and just look at them a couple years from now. I don't know. There seems to be something there. Now, looking at the Israeli stocks, they haven't been hurt whatsoever, even though Israel is under constant barrage. From missiles, you would think at some point Iran is going to exhaust their supply of cruise missiles. I hear that they're getting them from China, is what I hear, is where their missiles are coming from. And they seem to have an endless supply. But getting through that Iron Dome there is no easy trick there. They get about 97% of all the missiles fired at them. Nuclear talks collapse. Well, obviously. And, you know, I've done a lot of reading about Iran over the weekend, talked to somebody who actually had a lot of dealings with Iranian people over the last couple of years. They do not like Iran. Their leadership. They would like to see a regime change, the people in Iran. But they're afraid, obviously, because it's a crushing, brutal regime. And whether or not we see it. And I didn't realize this. I was told by this young man that the Ayatollahs actually was born in India. He's not even an Iranian, you know, born in Iran. And somehow, I mean, they came to power. When the Shah of Iran fell, and they've ruled with an iron fist ever since. So we'll just have to see what happens. Nature, you know, people are going to have to determine. I think that's why Trump, I think Trump has the belief that countries should determine who their leaders are, that we shouldn't be involved in regime change and whatnot. There is a lot of backlash out there. I see that France, they closed the Israeli company booths at the Paris air show. Said, hey, you guys aren't welcome here. Told them to get out. Okay, over to China. China's retail sales fastest in a year. I find this to be interesting because it was our guy here in Charleston, the Treasury Secretary. Give me his name. Scott Besson. Yeah, Besson said that, you know, China needs to become more of a consuming nation, which the U.S. is, and less of a manufacturing nation. And the U.S. needs to become less of a consuming nation and more of a manufacturing nation. And I find it interesting that China's retail sales are the fastest in a year as their consumption. Maybe they're consuming some of these products that we're not buying anymore. I don't know. But their jobless rate also dipped. I just got to believe that China is going to be hurt on the world stage. That 30% tariff. In the meantime, everybody's shifting their manufacturing to Vietnam, which is 10%, and to India, which is 10%. And I'm reading this morning that they're very close to a deal with Europe to a flat 10% tariff across the board on all goods coming out of Europe. A couple things come to mind there. Number one, we're penalizing China, obviously, quite a bit with the 30% tariff. It's going to show up in China's economy. Now, 25% of that, maybe 20%, is the fentanyl. So I'm thinking maybe that one could be whittled down if they can prove to us that the fentanyl thing is under control. But the other thing that comes to mind, Jeff, we're going to collect a heck of a lot of tariff money into the U.S. coffers, and I think that was Trump's goal all along. I mean, 30% from all Chinese sales, 10% from Vietnam, 10% from India. That adds up. You know, 10% from Europe. That's the cost of doing business. And, of course, the U.S. Treasury is going to keep that entire 10%. Now, it's born that cost is spread out amongst the manufacturers. The importers that import the goods, the sellers that sell the goods, and the consumer. I think you're going to eventually see maybe a trillion dollars a year coming in in tariffs. You'd have to do the math on the amount of sales we do with these countries and put some kind of number to that. trillion even a half a trillion in tariffs that's going to at least help help somewhat with this massive debt that we carry and also help to balance the the annual budget well when we come back it's Fed week again what is the Fed gonna do and what do they think of Trump's economic policies and Don't know that they like them very much.
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We'll be right back.
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Because there's something in the air We've got to get together sooner or later.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I'm back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. I did notice one other nice breakout chart here today. BEP, B-E-P, which is Brookfield Renewable Energy, and that's the one that owns 51%. of uh westinghouse and of course westinghouse has a lot of exposure to nuclear power plants so uh that one uh breaking out too okay let's see we've got uh the fed meeting oh boy if there's not enough going on in the world right now you know my wife and i every morning What's not in the news today? There's just so much news coming at us from all different directions. And the Fed will meet Tuesday. They'll announce their decision on Wednesday. They obviously do not like the tariff policy. even though it seems to be working. I made the bold claim in my article back on March 8th at the bottom of the market. I said, I think the tariffs are going to end up working. And I think so far, I mean, it's pretty hard to make an argument that they're not. The market is roaring back. The coffers are being filled with tariff money. The agreements have been made with most of the countries out there. It looks like it's going to be pretty much 10% across the board, except for China, which is 30%, and that seems to be movable under some conditions. I haven't heard Canada and Mexico yet. I don't know where we're at on that, but... I mean, the market's working. What can I say? And earnings estimates are going up for 2026 and 2027. That's the bottom line. We are looking at probably the Fed doing nothing this week. I don't think Jerome Powell likes Donald Trump. I don't think Donald Trump likes Jerome Powell. Most presidents don't like the Fed chairman. And I do think that when Powell's term is up, I would say Scott Besson is the number one, if he's interested in the job. That's a powerful job. When you look back on time, you know, Jeff, you had Volcker, who was a major force during the Reagan era in getting rid of inflation and putting us into a recession to get inflation down. You had Alan Greenspan, who was a very powerful man. You had Ben Bernanke, who, you know, worked us through the 08-09 recovery with the TARP funds and everything like that. And then, of course, since then, we've had Jerome Powell as our secretary there. And I do think Besant would be a major candidate for that job, which is a pretty big job as it relates to influencing the world and trade and the economy and all this and that. Apple could face new charges in the EU. This is all the EU does, it seems to me. They regulate everything. They penalize, they fine, and they collect fines. This is over Apple's App Store rules. Okay, their rules. And, of course, constantly, if it's not Google, it's Apple. If it's not Apple, it's Meta. If it's not Meta, it's Amazon. Forking over a fine to the EU for something or another.
SPEAKER 06 :
They don't like the rule that you have to make an appointment to go see them or something like that? I wonder what rule they have a problem with.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, if you want to open a business in Europe, it's just mind-boggling, the red tape and the paperwork and everything. But they say that they're changing their ways because they realize their economy is growing by about a half a percent a year. And restrictions and regulations is one of the reasons why. But whether they're changing or not, I don't know. Their numbers aren't changing. Their GDP remains very, very, very sluggish. Estee Lauder Chairman Emeritus Leonard Lauder. who took the brand global, dies at the age of 92 years old. That's a company that is trying to make a comeback. They're trying to get YouTube influencers like the others have done. They're trying to become more current. It's thought of as an old ladies brand, but he did die over the weekend. Corweave in focus as Bank of America downgrades on valuation. There's no way you can justify the current valuation of Corweave. We own Corweave, but I did cut my position in half. Just for sanity's sake, I took our cost out is basically what I did. And what we have left is total gravy because we were up more than 100% on it. This thing just went public in April. It was 33, and now it's 155. And from what I understand, there's another one out there called Databricks. that is a very hot private company. But CoreWeave is the number one, whatever Databricks does, it's data warehousing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Databricks would be very comparable to a stock that we like called Snowflake.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
They're their competitor. They're going to provide data management, data warehousing, data analytics, Uh, I know a number of people that, that work for Databricks, uh, good companies, uh, still, still privately held. Uh, so, you know, no one can take any kind of positions unless you're doing something in the private markets with them right now. But, uh, certainly one to watch here, uh, At some point in time, I think they will go public.
SPEAKER 03 :
But like you say, I mean, Snowflake is already public. And when I read that, that Snowflake competes, Databricks' main competitor is Snowflake, I said, you know, I've got to look at Snowflake again. It's definitely a lot cheaper than CoreWeave is. Snowflake's just been a little bit sluggish in their earnings growth. They're kind of just turning the corner, really. to profitability. I don't know, is that data warehousing and all that, is that a high-end, high-margin business, or is that more of a lower-end, lower-margin business?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it's absolutely a high-end business there. Think about it, Bill. All the different data sources that you go through to pull together a report and You know, again, it falls back to AI. It falls back to quantum computing. It takes a lot of horsepower. And these data warehouses allow you to go out and slice and dice data. And when someone needs to go out and get an answer from their various databases, those are the systems that allow that outcome to be delivered much, much quicker.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think the market definitely agrees that this is a high-end margin business. Snowflakes trading at 226 times earnings. 226.
SPEAKER 06 :
What about our friends in the micro-nuke business? I mean, micro-nukes are way up. I mean, Nano, SMR, Oklo.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I haven't even gotten to them yet because they're later on in the alphabet. I'm only to the Cs right now. I'll get to them about 1230 or so. But, yeah, I mean, it's a risk-on kind of move today, and that generally spreads to the nuke stocks. I did see Talon, and those were also doing pretty well here today. Now, here's my trivia question for you. I talked about this about a month ago. Where is Snowflake headquartered?
SPEAKER 06 :
Are they Scandinavian?
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Bozeman, Montana. Bozeman, Montana. The corporate, the Silicon Valley of Yellowstone, right? Can you believe that, that it's headquartered? And if I'm not mistaken, the same guy that was involved with ServiceNow, this is one of his other brainchilds, was Snowflake. And, you know, hence the symbol has now in it.
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Well, the former governor, I'm trying to remember his name off the top of my head, he started a company called RightNow, and he was based up there. And so I think he actually enticed, you know, some of these tech companies to consider this. The Big Sky Country as a place for corporate headquarters.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's crazy. I have ties to the Big Sky Country. I have cousins, second, third cousins that live in Bozeman. I don't know if they work for Snowflake. They were all fly fishermen. My cousin was a world-renowned builder of custom fly rods. He never would give me one. They're like $10,000 for a fly rod. I said, Tommy, where am I going to get one? Well, someday, Bill, but he finally passed away. But a very famous Tommy Morgan, world-renowned fly rod maker, was my second cousin up in Bozeman, Montana. We'll be right back.
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On a winter's day.
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And look back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, I've got one, two, three, four, five more here to mention. I did get through the C's here during the break. Cameco, total breakout to new highs on Cameco. It owns 49% of Westinghouse and, of course, has a lot of exposure. The leading miner of uranium in the world. CCJ, we do own Cameco in our ultra-growth portfolio, which is really having a good year this year. And Constellation Energy is breaking out today. That's the big one back in the Baltimore area, Three Mile Island made a deal with Microsoft, and I think Meta was the other one, to sell nuclear energy to them. Chipotle. Total different end of the spectrum here is breaking out here today. It's definitely a risk-on kind of day. And then this recent IPO circle, that's the hot one right now. It's totally linked to cryptocurrency. It would be probably comparable to Coinbase. Circles up 22% today. It's the new kid in town. Now here's the little one I'm going to bring to your attention here today. This one caught my eye this morning, Jeff. You might want to jot this down. Because they got $120 million from the U.S. EXIM, which I think is the exports and import bank, for a Greenland rare earth project. Now, of all the rare earth projects, we're looking in Las Vegas area. You know, their mountain pass just south of Vegas. We're looking under the sea along with the Little Mermaid, you know, for rare earths under the sea. How many times have you heard that one, Grandpa? I've heard that song. And it's a small world. After all, I've listened to that one a lot of times. But anyways, we're looking under the sea. Greenland, and we made a deal with Ukraine. That seems like a real long shot. We have the rights to Ukraine. I'm sure they have them. But, you know, dodging the bullets is another situation there. But this Greenland thing, this is intriguing, okay? The name of this stock, CRML is the symbol. Critical Minerals. Metals. Critical Metals. It was not in my database because this morning it was $1.29. It went public in 2022. It's headquartered in the British Virgin Isles. which seems to me like more baseball players come out of there than rare earth minerals. But this thing's up 23% today on 10 times normal volume. The symbol Carmel, C-R-M-L, Carmel. And they get a big loan from the U.S. government to go look in Greenland to finance the Tabriz rare earth mine project in Greenland. Well, you know, I mean, we were giving all of these solar companies millions and millions of dollars in subsidies from the U.S. government and wind and whatnot. And it looks like the Trump administration going in a little bit different direction, looking for those critical rare earths, which are used in solar. solar and wind and by the way there's 17 they all end in um uh we're going to have a quiz tomorrow night if you if you can name all 17 off the top of your head i'll give you a year's free of the newsletter My favorite one, Jeff, is scandium, which is named after Scandinavia. But all those rare earths end in U-M. That's what they have in common. Lithium, et cetera. Yeah. I mean, I don't remember that. We didn't talk about that in chemistry in high school and in college. I did well in chemistry, but I don't remember the rare earths being a big, maybe they've become a big thing with technology in recent years. The other one that is hot, USA Rare Earth, which is USAR. USAR is up 10.6% today. They signed a memorandum of understanding, an MOU, with Moog. Electric Motion Solutions, Moog is a publicly traded company. They will design and test permanent neodymium magnets. There you go. There's the UM neodymium. There's one of the 17. And they are in magnets, okay? Magnets have rare earth in them, okay? Which is driving efficiency in data center deployed globally. Now, USA Rare Earth has a lab in Stillwater, Oklahoma. Stillwater, Oklahoma is where they're located. And I did notice the one we own is MP, which is Mountain Pass. Oh, look at that chart today, up 11.1% on three times normal volume. You know, I remember passing that thing many times. It was a giant pit right off the 15 going to Vegas. We drove that way a lot because we owned a lot of billboards. We should have got the mineral rights along with those. Bill Ford writes while we were traveling through there. MP is hitting a new 52-week high today. That's in our emerging growth portfolio. And they're looking for rare earths there. And we are slowly running out of time. I see Adobe. Last one we'll talk about. They have got a new model aimed at monitoring AI traffic. Adobe did not have a good report last week. I met a kid at church yesterday. He's from Mountain Pass, California. I said, I was just there. And that's the home to Google. He didn't realize that that was also the home to Waymo because Google owns Waymo. He says, no wonder there's so many Waymos in the parking lot. I could never get the correlation there. And my buddy Douglas, after I was out there fishing with him last week, he sent me a picture over on Saturday. They caught a big sturgeon. which they had to release because it's out of season. But those sturgeon, man, they are good eating fish. Those are what they get the caviar from. Imagine they're in Sacramento, in the Sacramento River. But I gave them one fishing lesson, and they caught a big striped bass with me on board, but he sent me a picture of a nice sturgeon that they got over the weekend. My next trip to California is being on the planning cycle right now. And, of course, we're going to do a workshop out there in Santa Clara on that trip and maybe catch some more stripers and sturgeon while we're out there. To get a free trial to the newsletter and hear about all these companies before other people do, go to GundersenCapital.com to set up an appointment with us to put us to work for you today. 855-611-BEST 855-611-BEST Have a great day everybody.
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In this episode of America's Veteran Stories, host Kim Munson welcomes Colonel Bill Rutledge, a 96-year-old retired Air Force officer, who shares the intriguing history of his great-grandfather, Colonel James Welsman Brown. From his beginnings in Charleston, South Carolina, to his pivotal role in the Confederate Army during the Civil War, Colonel Brown's story is a testament to dedication, bravery, and the complexities of war. Recorded on Father's Day, this episode highlights how these narratives of courage have shaped the foundations of our modern society.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and our other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you, and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Monson.
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Welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Monson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. And the show comes to you because of a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans to Normandy, France, for the 72nd anniversary of the D-Day landings in World War II. and return stateside realizing that we need to record these stories and broadcast them and archive them, hence America's veteran stories. Pleased to have on the line with me my friend, and he is 96 years young, and that is Colonel Bill Rutledge, a retired United States Air Force. He has traveled the world. He has a... Deep interest and curiosity in people and places and things and history. And he shares so many different stories with us. And we're going to talk today about his great grandfather. And we're doing this on Father's Day. And so it's very appropriate. Colonel Rutledge, welcome.
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Well, thank you for the opportunity.
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Well, and we're going to talk about your grandfather, Colonel James Welsman Brown. So tell us a little bit about Colonel Brown.
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Well, James Welsman Brown was born in July 1840 on South Battery, Charleston, South Carolina. A tradition in many parts of the country and certainly down there. that the middle name was generally the mother's maiden name so james wellsman his mother's maiden name was wellsman and he was actually raised by his wellsman grandparents because his mother died when he was rather young so it's people often wonder why do you have such an odd middle name but that's That's tradition in many, many parts of the world, actually, but especially in the South. And since he was living in Charleston, there were actually two colleges there. The College of Charleston is the oldest local college in America. It's not a university. It was not at that time. It was just the College of Charleston. It was formed in the late 1700s. And the Citadel... was formed and opened in 1842. So he elected to go to the Citadel. So in 1858, he enrolled in the freshman class. And so he had just turned 18 and went there as an undergraduate student for the next three and one half years. During that time, The election of 1860 resulted in Lincoln being elected. And then also the threat of conflict. And one of the reasons being the South claimed control of Fort Sumter, although it was occupied by the Union Army. And in January of 1861, this was before the inauguration, The inauguration didn't happen until March the 4th, 1861. The Union decided that they needed to provide more provisions and some troop strength to Fort Sumter. So they sent a ship to Charleston, and it was called the Star of the West, and it came in March. Charleston has a narrow gap because of a big bar out in the entrance to the harbor. So it had to wait a little bit in order to come into Fort Sumter. And while it was preparing to come into Fort Sumter, some of the cadets from the Citadel manned an artillery piece and shot towards the ship enough to endanger it and the ship turned around and went back north. So Fort Sumter was not resupplied that spring. And this is all relevant to what was going to transpire later on when, on April 12, 1861, the infamous shots towards Fort Sumter occurred.
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And what else do you know about his time at the Citadel when he was studying there?
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Well, he was a good student, and he was especially an effective leader. The officer corps, generally speaking, is not selected until people, the cadets, are seniors. That's true at the Air Force Academy even now, I believe. But they are given ranks. such as corporal, sergeant, and so forth. The senior member of the undergraduate class, this being the junior class, the sergeant major is the senior person. He was selected as the sergeant major for the cadet corps during his junior year, and then he entered his senior year in September 1861. And by that time, things were getting rather hot around Charleston, and the Union Navy had blockaded the port. During that early period, also, there were attempts to run the blockade with ships, and Colonel Brown's family They owned a cargo ship, and it was loaded with cotton, and they were trying to get it to England. But it was captured by the Union Navy and confiscated. So this was a huge financial loss for the whole family. However, that was not specifically relevant to the fact that by October of 1861— Colonel Brown, who was then a senior cadet, and about 30 other cadets elected to leave the school before they graduated and become officers in the Confederate Army. And he did leave 1st of October and was commissioned a first lieutenant of artillery. He had to go to a training process to... that was way west of Charleston just for protection. But then when he returned to Charleston, he was assigned as a battery commander of the 2nd South Carolina Artillery Regiment.
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Okay, and what happened after that?
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Well, since he was the most junior officer who had reported there, They moved him from battery to battery, moving him around so that he became familiar with the various guns that were located all around the perimeter of Charleston. Charleston Harbor, during the Civil War, was the most heavily fortified port in the South. And he was assigned to the heavy cannons. These are the ones that are so big. that they don't have mobility. They're in place, and they're in a position to guard against the entrance to the harbor from the sea. That's their principal reason. However, by becoming an artillery officer, he did know how to work things such as a more mobile, smaller cannon and artillery. even field artillery pieces. So he had a very eclectic life during that time. But in 1862, he was assigned full-time as the artillery officer at Fort Lamar. Fort Lamar was at a place called Secessionville, a very small village. on James Island, which is on the south perimeter of Charleston Harbor. And he had duty there most of the rest of the time that Charleston was in contention in the war, all the way up until February 1865.
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And so did he spend most of his time during the Civil War right there in Charleston?
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Yes, until they abandoned Charleston in February 1865. But there were a couple of big occasions that were very relevant. Early in the winter of 62 and 63, General Beauregard— who came from Louisiana and who had commanded forces up at the first battle in Virginia, the Battle of Bull Run or Manassas. He became the harbor commander for Charleston. And Beauregard actually summoned my great-grandfather to come and, briefed him on a Union gunboat that was bothering people all up and down a river that was around the perimeter of Charleston. It was called the Stono. And so there was a gunboat that had come down from New York, and it would go up and down parole, up and down the river and threaten the the flanks of Charleston and also be a nuisance to the farmers and people who had larger plantations along the river. So Beauregard gave him instructions to either capture the ship or sink it. And so what Colonel Brown did, by this time he was a major, and he assembled a detachment of field artillery and infantry. He had three field artillery pieces and a detachment of infantry from one of the Georgia regiments. So what they did, they did during the dark and at night, they took two of the artillery pieces to one side of the river and one separate on the other side. And they made a a triangular pattern, and they set it up with the idea that they were going to wait until the Isaac Smith, which was the name of the gunboat, would get into this triangle, and then they would be able to shoot from these three directions towards the ship. And they did. And what happened was they shot the smokestack down And so even though all the men were aboard, they were down in the cabins below and in the boiler room. But nevertheless, when the smokestack came down, there was so much smoke that was inside, they had to surrender the ship. Wow. So they had the unique experience of being infantry and artillery and way inland capturing a U.S.S. ship of the war. It's most unusual. When they captured it, then they restored the repairs as necessary, and they renamed it the CSS Stono. They named it for the river, and of course they changed the USS to CSS. And it was used for approximately another year and a half in that same area, but it had, of course, their own One of the problems was they ran aground because there were a lot of places in the harbor that were not deep enough. And so consequently, ultimately, it just sank out there in that area or was scuttled probably. So it wouldn't be repaired by the Union forces. Okay.
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Did they ever recover that ship?
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No, they did not. Interesting. It was not recoverable. Didn't make much sense. It was just what it really had been. It had been used in the harbor in New York City as a ferry boat. And then they had converted it into what it was with small guns aboard. And that's when they called them a gunship. And it wasn't built for combat, but it was used to harass people and to try to control a very limited geographic area.
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Very interesting. I'm talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge, United States Air Force retired, regarding his great-grandfather, Colonel James Welsman Brown, and his time during the Civil War. And these are important discussions. We have them because of our sponsors, and one of those is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And great specials for lunch and for happy hour. And so be sure and check that out. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Monson. And happy Father's Day to all of you fathers out there. I'm pleased to have on the line with me Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force. And he's 96 years young. He's traveled the world. He has this great curiosity on people and places in history. And on this Father's Day, we're talking about his great-grandfather, And that is Colonel James Welsman Brown. And he served on the Confederate side in the Civil War. And so we're talking about his time around Charleston. And he was involved in a very significant battle, correct, Colonel Rutledge?
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That's correct. In the summer of 1863, the fortress that he was defending was one of these earthen fortresses. in Cessationville on James Island. And it was named for Colonel Lamar, who was the commander. Colonel Lamar got malaria, and he died that summer. So then, basically, Colonel Brown moved up, and shortly thereafter, he became promoted from major to lieutenant colonel within two years after he retired. was first commission. People move fast when you're having casualties. And so the fortress there, even though it was an earthen fortress, this was very common during the Civil War. It was protecting the entrance to Charleston Harbor from the south. And what had happened is that James Island is a long north-south shaped island. And The Union infantry had landed on the southern end of the island and had proceeded north. And there's a lot of swamp area, so they had to follow a trail that led right up towards Secessionville as the best route to get to Charleston. And they had 6,000 soldiers, and this was mostly infantry but also field artillery. What they did, they planned to attack the fortress with half of their soldiers, 3,000, and then have the other 3,000 in reserve so that they could swing around to the west and try to flank the fortress in case they were needed. So the frontal attack did occur, and it was dead in the middle of the night. I think it was around 2 o'clock in the morning, and the assault was made on the fort. Colonel Brown was in charge of the artillery specifically. He personally was. And it was so dark, and it was a surprise attack. But nevertheless, there were a lot of casualties in the Union force. because of the fortification structure. But they did get close enough that some of them actually cleared the parapet and came into the fort. So there was some hand-to-hand fighting. And then the defenders were able to force those who'd come across the wall back over. And they drifted back because they had a lot of casualties. somewhere in the ballpark of 400 to 500 people that were down, either killed or wounded. And so what happened? And the reserve came in. The reserve came, and instead of going directly on a frontal attack, they turned left and went west. And therefore, they were going to be shooting their artillery into the fort from the west, which was not as well protected. And it looked like they were going to They were going to take the victory. And about that time, a Confederate infantry regiment came to the relief. And what they did, the infantry people flanked the Union people who had flanked the West Wall. So they came and relieved them. And then the Union, extra 3,000 men, they retreated and went south and got out of the way. there were narrow windows of good hard ground. So the whole situation was keyed to control of that particular fortress. So when they went south, the decision was made that it was not practical for them to try to capture that again. And the strategic value was that there never was another single fortress Mass attack against Charleston during the remainder of the war. So it was a very successful defense. And Colonel Brown stayed in command there until really February of 1865. Now, what had happened in 64, of course, Sherman had captured Atlanta. And he had moved all the way to march across Georgia to Savannah. At Christmas 1864, Sherman sent word to Lincoln that he was giving him a Christmas gift of Savannah, Georgia. A little play on words, but it was a fact. They were in control. Now, When they were in Savannah, the people in Charleston were very fearful that he would make a direct attack on Charleston. But instead, what he did, he went to the west and went up to Columbia to capture the state capital. But when he got there and controlled the capital, he had now flanked Charleston. So Charleston was between Charleston his army, and the Navy on the other side. So they recognized that Charleston was no longer defensible. So the Confederates decided they must evacuate. So in February of 1865, they moved all of their military units out. And Colonel Brown's position had expanded so that not only was he in control of the little operation on Secessionville at Fort Lamar, but also he was controlling the big guns that were around the perimeter of the harbor. So they had to be, what they did, they spiked the guns so they could not be used. They threw all our ammunition into the harbor. And then all the Confederate soldiers and their officers left Charleston and went across the Ashley River Bridge to the mainland because Charleston is on the base of a long perimeter and a long peninsula. So as the troops all went out, Colonel Brown, since he was in ordnance and they knew how to handle ammunition, big ammunition, he and a small detachment from his second South Carolina artillery, they blew the bridge. So the Ashley River Bridge was destroyed. They were the last people across it, and it was to preclude Union soldiers coming across the bridge and following them up into the Carolinas, up into North Carolina.
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That had to be. Do you have more details on what they did in order to blow that bridge?
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No, I don't have a lot of details because the key was, you know, first of all, they're all wooden bridges in those days. And all it takes is a little bit of gunpowder and the right strategic supporting columns and it's going to collapse. So basically that's what they did. They had their men and they had plenty of gunpowder. So they placed it in strategic spots. put a fuse in it just like you see in an old western movie lit the fuse and blew it up and it blew the supporting columns and then everything collapsed into the ashley river the main objective was just stop the flow of troops that might pursue them into the carolina north carolina
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And so then they're headed to where after they get across that bridge?
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Well, their destination ultimately was to join the other various regiments coming mostly from Tennessee. As a matter of fact, it was called the Army of Tennessee. So it was coming south and east to meet them in North Carolina, in the southern part of North Carolina. So... What happened was, even though there were second South Carolina artillery, they didn't have any artillery anymore. Well, they retained their name, but they were all issued rifles. And they said specifically that these were rifles from Europe. So the rifle is different from this. The muskets, in other words, they were breech-loading guns, so they were more powerful and more accurate. But unfortunately, these fellows had been trained for artillery, so they never had any combat experience using rifles. So this was a tremendous change. But nevertheless, they marched on. And on a side note, At the time that they were going north, Colonel Brown had a neighbor, and he inquired, he says, do you have a horse? And Colonel Brown said, no, I don't have a horse. He said, well, if you're going to be leading these infantrymen, you need a horse, so you can borrow my horse. So he loaned him his saddle horse, and he used it to go up north. for the next three months until after the war was over, and then he brought the horse back to Charleston and gave it back to his friend. Wow. And while they were going north, then he started maintaining a daily log that he kept in his little book in his pocket. And so it was a diary, but it was an end-of-day summation of what had transpired that particular day with their military unit as they went forward. And it is about four typed pages long. Remembering now it was a very small booklet, and so therefore it was a compilation of all of the information that was kept in his pocket. And when I saw it when I was very young, It was all done in pencil, and so therefore it had faded in a few places and rubbed some and gotten some moisture there. So there were a few words that weren't included in there, but almost everything was logical and practical. And it was talking about their progress as a unit, how far they marched that day, where their next destination, like one of their early destinations was Sumter, South Carolina. And they were hopeful in some cases to get some relief by being able to use some railroads to give them some service. But that wasn't possible. It didn't work out. There were too many people coming from too many directions and not enough railroad. So they had to march. And so they marched for many days to get to the border of South Carolina and North Carolina. And there they joined with the rest of the Army of Tennessee. And they were moving northwards toward Bentonville, which is south and east of I-25 now. And I-95, I got the wrong one. So anyhow, they were moving in that direction because the concept was they wanted to halt the Union progress, it was coming north. Now Sherman made a move which is unusual. He divided his force. He divided it in half and he sent the right flank over to fade over into North Carolina towards the east side of the state over towards the ocean. Well, the only chance the Army of Tennessee had against such a massive force that was coming was to try to hit the right flank. And what they did, they honed in.
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Yeah, let's go to break. Leave that as our cliffhanger, Colonel Bill Rutledge. And I did want to mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. And they are nonpolitical, nonpartisan, just focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And that plays out in their K-12 educational programs, their On Values presentations, and also their great portraits of valor of our Medal of Honor recipients. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. We will be right back.
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That I love and his name is Colonel James Welsman Brown. And before we went to break, Colonel Rutledge, you said that Sherman had done something unique, that he had divided his forces. And so Colonel Brown and company, they had some decisions to make, yes?
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Yes. The commander of the Army of Tennessee decided that Their only option was to try to defeat the right flank of Sherman's army and to do it when they're separated enough to give their chance to win a battle. It was a very slim chance, but they hoped. So they actually converged, and they met on the battlefield in a place that's called Bentonville. North Carolina, and as I mentioned, it's really just a little bit to the east of I-95 in North Carolina in the southern part of the state. And the first day, it seemed to be sort of a stalemate. They had halted the progress of the right flank of the Union Army, but the Union Army was much stronger. And during that first day also, the commander of the brigade that the 2nd South Carolina Artillery had been attached to was General Elliott. And General Elliott was wounded, so he had to be relieved of command. And Colonel Brown was the next senior officer, although he was a lieutenant colonel. He was a senior lieutenant colonel within their brigade. So he became the active brigade commander, which would normally be called a brevet brigadier. So he's 24 years old, and he's now commanding a brigade of mixed artillery and infantry against the strongest army in the country. And so the second day, it was obvious they weren't going to be able to hold. So they gradually withdrew and withdrew towards the north. And meanwhile, Sherman realized that tactically he had to reunite his forces. So they were moving back. They were moving from Columbia back east to join up with his right flank. which meant the Army of Tennessee had no chance. So they moved and kept moving north. One of the real interesting aspects is it, now we're talking about in April 1845, 1865. So they arrived in Raleigh on a Saturday evening, and the governor said, decided to come give them a big speech on Sunday. So they had a parade in Raleigh. It was really odd. I mean, they've been beaten in battle, but they have a full military parade. And the city got people together, and they had like an outdoor picnic for the soldiers because they hadn't had very good food or very much of it in a long time. So it was like a festive day, which is unusual for an army that's just been beaten in the field, and it has no chance at all. But he wrote in his little book that it was a beautiful day, and they had a marvelous time, and all the soldiers enjoyed the event. And that was one of the largest things he had. Now, the biggest entry in his book was all about the two days and the fighting. But that was just back and forth between various units. And he said that even though his men were not infantry, that they did a very good job. Now, casualties were pretty steep. But he was talking about the fact that they stood there. And they gave their best. And then... After they were at Raleigh, shortly thereafter, the general who was in command, General Johnson, of the Army of Tennessee, he conferred with Sherman. And they agreed to have a surrender of the forces. And Sherman was being very benevolent. He was very considerate. And he made provisions which were later revoked. by Congress. They thought he'd been too liberal. But nevertheless, he arranged that they would actually win the thing, the South would surrender their forces there. Meanwhile, while this was all going on down in North Carolina, Lee had been moving his forces over towards Danville, that was Lee's objective, was to get to Danville, Virginia, with hope of connecting with the Army of Tennessee. These had been long-range plans. Well, what happened in the meantime, Lee got surrounded, and he had to surrender on April the 12th. And so he did surrender there, and then the word got back down to the Army of Tennessee, and they recognized no chance, zero chance. So they right away started negotiating with Sherman to surrender their forces, which they did. And in my grandfather's journal, the last entry in his whole book was Lee's address to his troops when they surrendered. And then he had an opportunity because General Grant was very magnanimous, felt it was appropriate. So Lee assembled all of his troops when he surrendered them, but he addressed them. Again, a very traditional thing for the senior officer to do.
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And now's probably a pretty good time to share that because the next segment we'll talk about after the war. So do you want to share that with our listeners?
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Yes. It's a small letter. I'll try to read it and see how far we can go. It says Appomattox Courthouse, Virginia, April 16, 1865. After four years of arduous service marked by unsurpassed courage and fortitude, the Army of Northern Virginia has been compelled to yield to overwhelming numbers and resources. I need not tell the brave survivors of so many hard-fought battles who have remained steadfast to the last, that I have consented to this result, from no distrust of them, but feeling that valor and devotion could accomplish nothing that could compensate for the losses that would attend the continuation of this contest. I determined to avoid the useless sacrifice of those whose past service have endeared them to their country and to me. Paragraph. By the terms of agreement, officers and men can return to their homes and thus remain until exchanged. You will take with you the satisfaction which proceeds from duty well performed. And I only pray that a merciful God... will extend to you his protection and blessings with an increased admiration of your constancy and devotion to your country and a grateful remembrance of your kind and generous consideration for myself. I bid you an affectionate farewell. Signed, Robert E. Lee
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Wow. And that was, do you have your great-grandfather's journal? Can you hear? Do you have your great-grandfather's journal, Colonel Rutledge?
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This was the last entry in his journal.
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And you've got that, so that's pretty amazing.
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Well, I have seen it, and I extracted all that information directly from there and said that there may be, because of some smudging and things, there may be a word or two that might be misspelled. So we tried to make it as clear and as accurate as possible. And did your grandfather write that out? Well, what happened was, of course, they had transmitted Lee's address directly down to General Johnson. And when he got it, he shared it with his officers in the Army of Tennessee. And it was so impressive to the officers there that my grandfather wrote it down. That was the last entry in his book.
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That is really, really fascinating. And anything else about the end of the war before we go to break?
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Well, yes. When the war ended, General Johnson had to divide different things which were common property of the units. And so what they did, they made out formulas based upon the rank of the people. And so Colonel Brown inherited two mules and a wagon and... And, of course, the horse he was on was his, anyhow, his friend's horse. So I presume he took the mules with him and the wagon on his return to Charleston because everybody was going back home. And most of the people in the 2nd South Carolina Artillery were Charlestonians. But they had been there to defend their hometown. And so it was a slow progression as they all had to walk home. So they're walking from north central North Carolina all the way back to Charleston. So it took them a couple of weeks and they had very short notations in there. Every once in a while, he'd make a comment that would be rather personal. Like today, I wrote a letter to so-and-so who was a friend of theirs. or a member of their family. And one of the other entries there, he was talking about that as they were approaching Charleston, that he had asked one of his men to take the horse back to his neighbor, who had loaned him his personal horse to be used during the campaign. So it was rather lengthy, but it was just... what you or I might do if we were riding along on a trip in America, and at the end of the day we'd sit down and write a little one- or two-line summary of weather transpired that day.
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Wow, really fascinating. And we'll find out what happened then after the war to Colonel James Welsman Brown. So we'll go to break, and then when we come back, we'll find out what happened after the war. But did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial, which is located out at 6th and Colfax. It was dedicated in 1977. So it's time for a facelift, and Paula Sarals and team, working on that. More information, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Monson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. And happy Father's Day to all of you fathers out there. And I'm talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge, a retired United States Air Force. He's 96 years young. He's traveled the world and has a great curiosity on history and people and places. And he shares many great stories with us. And I really am grateful for that. Colonel Rutledge, we're talking about your great-grandfather, Colonel James Welsman Brown, and the Civil War is over. He's trekked back to Charleston, his hometown. What happens after that?
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Well, while he's en route back home, General Anderson, who was the commander of his unit at that time, and he was a commander of of a large brigade, and he gave what's called a terminal promotion. So he was promoted from lieutenant colonel to full colonel. This was done also in World War II. The key normally was if you're a major but you're eligible to be promoted to lieutenant colonel, you can be promoted even though the war is over. And this is called a terminal assignment. And that was very common. So this was my first exposure. So I have the paper in my files where he was actually appointed as a full colonel in the Confederate Army as they departed for home. So he got back to Charleston, and he had got to know several of his officer friends from Georgia. So one of them invited him to come over with him and visit there. And as I recall, he probably had this sister. But anyhow, her maiden name was Davis. And there was always speculation, was she kin to Jefferson Davis? And we never had any documentation one way or another. But nevertheless, they became engaged and they got married and Columbus, Georgia, which is over on the west side, almost in Alabama. So they were married. And then his grandfather gave him money to buy what was called a half plantation. And it was over in Taylor County, which is near Macon, Georgia. It was west of the the river that divides there, the counties there. And so he built a house there and was married, and they had six children. They had five girls and one boy, one son who was a junior. The son didn't last very long. He died as a young man. But they were over there in position in the late 1800s, 1860s so they made their home there and they were there for almost 15 years and during that interim period we had the reconstruction program throughout the south the election of 1876 was going to determine whether reconstruction was going to continue or not there was an agreement made with the electoral votes from Florida. They were the last ones to cast their votes. And they agreed that they would support the Republican nomination or the candidate because he had agreed that he would stop and he would halt the reconstruction and would return political autonomy to the southern states and to their citizens, many of whom were denied voting rights as a result of the Civil War. So that happened. And when that did happen, then the South hoped to regain some of their property. In Charleston, the key property there was the Citadel, where my grandfather had been a student. And that Citadel had become the headquarters for the occupying Union forces. So in 1877, a special committee was formed. It was called the Committee of Correspondence in Charleston, and it was designed to prepare a petition that would be sent to Washington requesting the return of the citadel property. So it could be used, again, as a school. And it had to go through the governor of South Carolina's office, who was retired, also Confederate general. And then it went on to Washington. Well, the petition, unfortunately, asked for not only the return of the property, they wanted to return... like rental rates for 10 years because it had been occupied by the Union Army. Well, that didn't ride well in Washington at all, so they rejected that. So they had to start and have a series of other requests. So the long and the short of it was the effort started in 1877, but they finally gained control back. by a continuation of correspondence in 1882. In the fall of 1882, the Citadel was reopened and has continued since that date as the Military College of South Carolina.
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Okay. Fascinating regarding your great-grandfather. We've got a couple of minutes left. How would you like to button this up, Colonel Rutledge?
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Okay. This was done, of course, while he was still what they called a planter in central Georgia. And as the children were getting a little bit older, his wife wanted to move closer to a large city for the education of the children. So they moved to Marietta, just north of Atlanta. And the irony was that Within three months after they arrived in Marietta, she came down with typhoid fever, which is a waterborne disease, and they didn't know where it came from in those days. And she died. So she died, and she leaves a husband in his early 40s with six children. And then he was very fortunate to find... A lady who had not been married because most so many of the eligible people for her and her generation and her educational background were killed during the war or were married. So she had never been married. So they married and she immediately took the responsibility of raising six children. And my grandmother died. was five years old when this happened. So this was in about 1880, 81. And she always looked at her as her real mother because she was only five when this all occurred, when her mother died. And the youngest child was only two. So my aunt, she never knew anyone else except the adopted mother. And she proved to be a wonderful lady, And they all considered her to be their mother. And this went real well until he was 52 when he contracted tuberculosis, and he died. Wow. So he dies, and she's still the mother for six children, but no longer are they children. Now the youngest one was 15. Okay. And my grandmother was 17. Wow. And then she had three older siblings. Okay. No, four. Four older. Okay. And three of them, two of them married brothers from Georgia.
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Twin brothers. And a third girl went with them, and she was not married at the time. Okay. And they were sooners. They went to Oklahoma when it opened up. Okay. And they're still out there.
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Oh, my gosh. Well, we're out of time, Colonel Rutledge. Thank you so much for sharing this story of your grandfather, Colonel James Welsman Brown. And again, happy Father's Day to all of you out there. We indeed stand on the shoulders of giants. God bless you and God bless America.
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My email is Kim at KimMonson.com, and I'm making progress online. on catching up on that i do want to hear from you the text line is 720-605-0647 thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it And it's not compassionate, it's not altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. This agenda being pushed by the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites playing out with the United Nations, this Colorado State Legislature, this governor, and they use all kinds of stuff, land use codes, zoning regulations, forced fees. conservation easements, all these things. And so we need to be reclaiming freedom. And that's why we need to talk about it. And again, something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And we focus on the issues and we'll talk about the people pushing issues, but we really work to stay out of all of the personality stuff. And so let's see here. Let's get over here. Our word of the day is incongruous. And it's I-N-C-O-N-G-R-U-O-S. It could be lacking in harmony or incompatible. It could be not in agreement as with principles, inconsistent, and not in keeping with what is correct, proper, or logical, inappropriate. I would say the No Kings Day was incongruous with the founding of our country. I was looking through some things on the Internet, and Tom Cranawitter, Dr. Cranawitter, had said the real No Kings Day is July 4th, 1776. And I think he's really nailed it, because that is where we said that we the people would be governing ourselves. That means that we have to be involved, understand these founding principles of the vision of our Declaration, that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. And the Constitution is there to make that play out. And that's what we need to be talking with people about. The No King's Day really was, I think, anti-Trump, obviously. And I know he's got a big personality. I get that. And I get that some people, his personality rubs them the wrong way. I get that as well. However... It really was not just anti-Trump. It was anti-America. When you look at the riots in L.A. And riots are not okay. And this was one of the headlines that I found. Hold on here. No Kings protests. 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I've been thinking a lot, my friends, about these AI centers. data, we're realizing that data is the new gold. And those data centers aren't just there to create an AI answer for you when you put a question into AI. They are at they are getting data points on all of us on a consistent basis. And when we look at the Fourth Amendment, let me get my Constitution out here. When we look at the Fourth Amendment, let me get here. And it says that the people are to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated or no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized. Now, I know that this is about government. But government and big tech, we saw during COVID, they got in bed with each other on all of this technology stuff. And so I'm thinking what we should do is we should own our own data. and virginia maca last week had sent over a whole bunch of information i tried to verify it so this is hypothetical but and she is the founder of sam for the land kansas and in some of the information she sent over she said that the department of education again i i need to re-verify this but let's say this is hypothetical and i tried to find out the amount of money that the Department of Education in Colorado received on the data of our students. And AI didn't have an answer to that. But she had down $58 million was what the Department of Education of Kansas received for selling the data on the students in Kansas. So I went and I found how many students there were in 2022 in Kansas. And what it worked out to was about $116 per student. So let's start to think about that. If you owned your own data, and you were paid for that data or you would determine whether or not you wanted to sell that data I think that we need to start a movement on owning our data instead of having somebody else own all that and I know that we sign the little things that give up all of our rights on all of this data we need to figure out a way to walk that back so I'm going to let you all ruminate on that but let's just think about how that could help a family You have two, three kids in school, an extra $300 a month. That starts to make a difference. But that's just the tip of the iceberg on all this data collection. So I want to hear from all of you. We might be able to talk about that in the very last segment of the second hour. So I want to hear what you all have to say about that. But I have on the line with me a great sponsor of the show, Jody Henze with Mint Financial Strategies. Jody, happy Monday. Good morning, Kim. Happy Monday to you, too. And what do you think? I know I'm springing this on you, but what do you think about this own your data thing? I think it could get legs.
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Well, interesting concept, because I know we were talking about financial freedom last week, and I was thinking about some strategies this morning about how families can try to achieve that. And there's really only two things you can do, either lower your expenses or increase your income. And when you mentioned that, a light bulb went off in my head. I was like, well, that's an interesting concept about finding some more income sources. And obviously, if somebody was interested in doing that, that could certainly help out by bringing in some additional income to their family. I'll be curious to see what some of your listeners think.
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Yeah, I'm interested to hear what they have to think about it as well. Because families, they are getting squeezed. When you talk about increasing income, and I talk with our young guys on a regular basis, I think that business gets a boost. a bad rap on and employers that they think that they're greedy. They don't they don't give raises the way that people would like them to. And of course, employers are squeezed. And I said, but I think that a government that forcibly takes money out of your your pocket, whether taxes or fees, if we could reduce that, that's a good way to increase people's income. So we work that way. And just think if a little family could own their own data and they got an extra $500, $600 a month if they decided to sell it. I think that could be very helpful.
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Yeah. I mean, it's an interesting idea, and I was thinking about that, too. And as you were starting off the show, I was using ChatGPT, talking about AI, and And I came across an interesting statistic. It says 46% of households have zero retirement funds in accounts like 401ks and IRAs. And that's interesting because one way to increase your paycheck or reduce some of the taxes that you're sending to our favorite uncle or the IRS is by contributing to some of those retirement plans. Because by doing that, you are deferring your income. And 46%? Just almost half.
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I can't believe that the statistic was so high. It really shocked me. Well, and you're in the business of helping people get to economic freedom because it really is freedom to be able to have economic freedom. And my dad always said, speaking of lowering expenses and increasing income, If you do what you need to when you need to, then someday you can do what you want to when you want to. And that has always stuck with me, Jodi.
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I agree. I mean, I think that's one of the things that we see in today's society, especially with some of our young people. And I know this is going to be very controversial, but one of the things that you could do is The budget, you know, so many people don't do budgeting anymore. And, you know, in this consumerism society that we have this pay now and pay later, buy now and pay later, and people just don't account for their money anymore. And it's this keeping up with the Joneses society. I mean, that's incongruent with financial freedom for sure. So budgeting is the other side of that equation. Find some more money to bring in, but accounting for every dollar that's going out.
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That makes so much sense. I have to congratulate you on a regular basis. You're using the word of the day. Well done, Jody Hensley. And you are helping people wherever they are in their financial journey, whether or not they're young, have put assets together. You can help them. What is the best way for people to reach you?
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Yeah, we have a caller text line, too. That's 303-285-3080. Again, 303-285-3080. Or you can contact us right through the website, which is MintFS.com.
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That's MintFS.com. And Mint, like FS Financial Strategies. Jodi, great advice. I always learn so much from you. And we'll talk with you next week. Sounds good, Kim. Thank you. Have a great week. And really, really blessed to work with amazing people. I know each and every one of our sponsors personally. And the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team wants you to feel safe and well-served and to understand your insurance coverage. Their office will respond to your caller text 24 hours a day. So for that 24-hour peace of mind, call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangan's team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And on the line with me is Karen Gorday. She is the owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting. And I wanted to talk about an issue that she is really keeping an eye on out in Lakewood. Karen, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. Happy Monday. Happy Monday to you, Karen. And one of the things that you are very concerned about is transparency in government. And you've got something going on in Lakewood that you're pretty concerned about.
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That is correct. Lakewood is currently redoing the entire zoning code ordinance. Not the part of it, the entire zoning ordinance, which is 409 pages long. Wow.
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And what's in those 409 pages?
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That's a good question, Kim. Essentially, so it's important to understand that Lakewood is a home rule city. And I know you've talked a lot about that. You've got home rule versus statutory rule. Lakewood is home rule, which means we can do what's best for our communities. And essentially, what is proposed in the new zoning is basically telling the state, OK, state of Colorado will give you whatever you want. And they are going to try to be compliant with HB 241152, 241304, 241313, and 241007. You may know that six cities are suing Polis and the states because they're encroaching on home rule and Lakewood was not part of that. And in fact, Lakewood City Council passed a resolution last December. It's resolution 24-62 and It essentially adopts all those state-level zoning goals I just mentioned, which eliminates single-family zoning. It legalizes zero lot line housing, which means you can build lot line to lot line. It codifies a 90-day approval for affordable housing. It requires compliance with eliminating the parking requirements. The bottom line, it's not good for the residents.
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Wow. And so this is what I see big picture on this, Karen Gorday, is they're moving to a point where people are going to be on top of each other and have to drive around to figure out a place to park a car. So people that do have single somebody that has a single family home, their neighbor could sell their property, their house. This is hypothetical. So that house could be scraped, and then there could be more than one unit put up over there, and there wouldn't be any parking requirements, so there could be cars everywhere. Am I getting this right?
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You absolutely are. So you could put a village of tiny homes on that lot. You could build a quadplex on that lot with no parking allowances as well. They're going to allow any resident in the city to have 750 square foot of their house as commercial space. So for personal services, so think hair salon, spa treatments, dry cleaners, even coffee shops can be in your neighborhood on what used to be a quiet, quiet cul-de-sac lot.
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Wow. So what, first of all, do the people of Lakewood know that this is occurring?
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I think the ones that pay attention know what's occurring, to what extent. I don't know that people are aware. And then, of course, those that don't follow city government or don't understand how city government works, they don't know. They have no clue this is coming.
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This seems like... Okay, backing up, I certainly support property rights, people being able to do what they want to with their property. There is, however, this is changing all the rules. So if there's zoning, people bought property with particular zoning, not having somebody build right up to the lot line, this is, I think this can be an assault upon property rights. What do you think, Karen?
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I absolutely do. We have, uh, in Lakewood, we actually have a lot of horse property, um, and people paid really good money for a horse property. And if someone has a lot, um, right next to the horse property, oh, well, um, you, your horse property could be ruined because you've got, now you've got buildings right up against your, your lot line. The other thing, and this really concerns me as well, is they're going to limit the square footage of houses on a lot above grade, so basements don't count. But if you have, for example, a 4,000 square foot house above grade, and it burns down, the largest, depending on how you're zoned, the largest house you'll be able to build above grade is 3,250 square feet. So forget all about replacement value.
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Wow. So they are going to say just how big your house could be. Correct.
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This is crazy. You can subdivide and put multiple units on your lot. So you can add an ADU to your lot, but they're going to limit the size of your main dwelling unit.
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Wow, this is so anti-freedom, I can't even believe it.
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I know. It is mind-boggling, Kim. And I watched the last planning commission meeting, and I was just floored that multiple planning commissioners are thrilled with this document and how it could be a blueprint for other cities across the Front Range, and they are proud of their work. And it is assault on property rights and personal freedom.
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Well, you know, and the other thing, Karen, and we'll probably talk with Mary Jansen about this tomorrow, is that the Planning Commission... is appointed really by the mayor or city council, although I think staff has input on that as well. But I think many times these agendas can hide behind planning commissioners, and there are good planning commissioners that understand freedom and property rights, and there are those that don't. that are really more about control but they're also they're unelected which I think is important so they're it gives an insulation of responsibility of the mayor and the city council they hide behind the oh the planning commission is recommending this yes Yes.
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But in this case, we have that resolution from last year that provided the direction of all this. So I don't know how much they can hide behind that in this case.
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Oh, good point. Good point. So what timeline? And I think you've got an article coming out soon.
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Yes, I do. So I was up late last night finishing or trying to finish it. I finished it about 10 minutes to six this morning. So I am proofreading it now. and then it'll go to the editor of the lakewood informer and it'll be published within the next 24 hours the title of this article is zoned out how lakewood is selling out its neighborhoods and there are upcoming city council meetings the next one is july 14th and then july 28th july 28th is the first reading of the zoning ordinances And then Monday, August 11th, we need to pack the room, show up in force, because that's public comment on the zoning. There are no additional city council meetings in June, but my recommendation to Lakewood property owners would be to reach out to your city councilors, have those discussions, show up to the next meetings, and speak in general public comment, and let's make our voices heard.
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Okay. And this article, it sounds like you pulled an all-nighter on this one, Karen Gorday.
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Almost, yes. I want to get the word out, and we're in summer vacation mode in this area, and so the sooner we can get this out, the sooner we can get people involved.
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That way people can understand that. Again, people will be able to find this article where? On the lakewoodinformer.com. Okay. Karen Gorday, thank you so much for being an advocate for property rights because owning property, property is inherent within the American idea. And so thank you. And so let's stay informed on this. I really do appreciate it. Thank you for letting me come on, Kim. Absolutely. My friends, this is not so subtle, a not so subtle attack upon our property rights. And we have to have these discussions. And I wanted to mention Hooters Restaurants. They are great sponsors of both the Kim Monson Show. and America's veteran stories. I've known them for many years, and it's from an experience I had with them when I was on city council about freedom and free markets and capitalism, and then PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties trying to exert power and control. So it's really a foundational story about America. But they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs, great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour. And again, I would highly recommend their fish and chips. Another great sponsor of the show is Karen Levine. And for everything regarding residential real estate, buying or selling your home, or looking at a new build, you want to have Karen on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the Center for American Values is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And this summer, I'd highly recommend that you put the kids in the car and go down and visit the center and just take a look at the portraits of valor of many of our Medal of Honor recipients and talk with your kids or your grandkids about that. The center is nonpolitical. It's nonpartisan, focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. On the line with me is a fan favorite of ours, and that is Lauren Fix, Car Coach Reports. Lauren, welcome to the show. Well, thanks for having me back. Man, a lot has happened since we last talked.
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Yeah. And there's more good stuff coming. We actually have some good news for a change. It looks like with all this electric vehicle mandates are going away, the state of Colorado has not made a statement. But a few states are going to try and sue President Trump after he signed. So I should explain. There was an electric vehicle mandate in California. And that, of course, 17 states agreed with that, of which includes Colorado, New York, where I live. And, of course, typical states that follow New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts. But consumers are saying, hold on, there's no charging infrastructure. It costs more to insure. The vehicles are more expensive. I like my vehicle. Why would I want to get rid of it? Or I'm in the middle of a lease or a purchase and financially I can't afford to buy a new car. But, see, the state doesn't see it that way. We do because we pay attention to that. but they they live in a world where they think if we mandate this you have to do it that's like saying you can only eat broccoli i mean there's a point where people like but i don't want it so because of the pushback with that once the trump administration got in lee zeldin who's in charge of the epa sean duffy department of transportation chris wright from uh energy secretary they got together they put together what's called a cra which is a congressional review act and what happens is they go and they pull this statement this line item that President Biden put into place. And these three, one of them includes the electric vehicle mandate. One is diesel emissions for trucks. In other words, they couldn't go to ports. They didn't want big trucks transporting. And you just talked about that on Friday on your show. That's really important because getting goods from ports to warehouses to your home, it's all done by truck. Whether you're delivering a refrigerator or you're delivering food from coast to coast that's refrigerated, those are problems. And of course, that means everything gets more expensive. So when President Trump got into office, there was actually four or five of them. There were smaller things of ridiculous rules that were put in place. Those were passed by the House with bipartisan support. Many of these representatives knew that people in their state Couldn't afford it. I mean, and it wasn't just the typical states you would suggest. So because of that, it went to the Senate. The Senate passed it, placed it on President Trump's desk, and he signed it last Thursday. I was so excited. I wish you could have heard me jumping up and down. I was so happy. Celebrations for sure that this was signed. Now, once it's signed, it can't be undone. it would take an act of Congress, which would be 75% of the House and the Senate, in order to put it back into place. And it could not be exactly the same wording or anything even close. So this is a huge win. And to do this, you could only do it when the president has the House, the Senate, and, of course, the White House. So this is the time to do it because the midterms are going to be critical because we know the midterms and how the left operates, that if they get back into power, they're going to just do the same thing again. We'll try to impeach them, waste time in lawfare, which they're doing right now. They're doing everything they can to stop their plan. which is basically government control. So we're in the midst of doing other things, trying to help get this other rules taken away as well, so that you as a consumer can buy what you want, not just in cars, but in appliances, water pressure, toilets, heat pumps, so you don't have to make your home all electric. All these things are part of what President Trump is doing. So the good news is that we've got this through. And that means trucks can go to ports, goods get transported to your home at a lesser cost, and you can buy whatever you want. Now, of course, Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, and his usual moves, I'm going to sue. He can try all he wants. There is not a chance that this is going to pass. He's just going to take it to the courts, but it will not change any rules in the interim. So note that if you want an electric car, Fantastic choices out there. I cover all of them on my Car Coach Reports channel. I've reviewed all of them. There's some great products out there. If you want to buy a Tesla, go buy one. If you don't want one, there's hybrids, there's gas, and there's diesel options, and you can buy what you want. And that is the best news of the month.
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Well, now, I thought I did see a headline. Well, I did see the headline regarding Gavin Newsom suing on this. And I thought Colorado was part of that. But since this has gone through the House and the Senate, they really don't have a leg to stand on to sue on this, do they? I think that's what you said. Okay.
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They don't. And that's typical, though. We're talking about California. You know, if things don't go the way you want, just sue. If you don't like what President Trump did, you know, find a federal judge or an appellate court judge or somebody, some sort of law fair to slow it down. Trump has won every single one of these. Some take longer. Some will have to go to the Supreme Court. But as far as far as the Supreme Court, what I'm watching right now is the big one. This is the one that we all should celebrate. We're trying to take the powers away from California because in the Constitution, you cannot have one state make the rules for the other states. Each state has its own rules. And that's why you feel like when you go to the state of Colorado to register your car, that's Colorado Department of Motor Vehicles. It's not the federal one. It's your state. And so each state has their own rules, regulations, taxes, etc., So California's been telling the other 49 states what you can sell, how you can sell it. You know, he's been trying to push. And there are a few states that will align. Of course, the fool that runs our state of New York, Kathy Hochul, is just as bad as Gavin Newsom. Colorado, you have your own issues there. Same situation where they jump on board with whatever Gavin Newsom has to say. However... when the Supreme Court finally gets this on their docket, and I'm watching, we want them to take the powers away from the California Resources Board. And the only reason they got the power was because when Obama got into office, he was there for eight years, he kept giving them more and more powers every year. And it made them very powerful. And they started telling car manufacturers what to make for the rest of the country. And then, of course, Trump came in, and it was too late into his four-year term to try to undo it. So he knew he had one more shot at this to get it done. And then, of course, Biden gave them even more powers. The goal is to take away all of their powers so that California can't tell the rest of the world, or the country at least, what we can buy, what we can do. And that's his goal. I mean, he thinks he's a little president over there, but he really doesn't have the power. He's basically an actor. And remember, he's related to Nancy Pelosi, and you can take it from there.
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Wow. Okay. Now, one other thing in this headline that I had seen regarding this mandate, it says that Trump also said that he unveiled a plan to ban windmills. So do you know much about that?
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I do know a little bit about that. I've been watching wind and solar for a while because they were trying to say it was going to power cars. But I also cover energy. I have a background in economics and all that. The problem with the windmills is this. We see them all over the place. We see them in New York, California, Florida, wherever. The problem with these windmills is a lot of things. One, they kill eagles, which is obviously not a good thing, but a lot of birds get killed by them because they spin slowly. To get them started, those gigantic windmills, to get them started requires a motor. And that motor uses a lot of energy. And, of course, it's not electric. But that motor, because those windmills are made of fiberglass, so each blade is very heavy. It's brought in a very long truck, and they put them up one at a time. The problem is they don't take them down when the motor dies or it needs maintenance or they get damaged. They just leave them because they're made of fiberglass, so they can't be recycled at all. They have to be buried in the ground. And that's not good because it affects well water. It affects the water supply. So, again, quite foolish. So when President Trump got into office, he wanted to get rid of those windmills because they don't give us enough energy. At the maximum, we can get about 10%. of energy that we need. So the cost of putting up those gigantic towers is a problem. In addition to that, if you own a home nearby, you just hear this whirling noise all the time. And people that live near there, it destroys the value of their property. It's actually completely useless to have it up there. And it's they're ugly. As a matter of fact, as those of us in the car industry always laugh, we go with the Mercedes logo because it's a three-star. But look at all those Mercedes logos in the sky. But there's a lot of problems with them. And when they tried putting them in the water, they were killing the whales. That project in New Jersey is done. Finally, people from the green side have woken up to realize, yeah, this is not working. If you care anything about any of the animals or our environment, they're not smart to have these windmills in the water. The damage it does to the ecosystem, to the fish, to the birds, to everything is terrible. And it's also killing whales. They're getting beached. You probably saw that in the news.
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So that's not good. And solar panels are equally as bad. Honestly, if you want them, great. Put them on your home. But the truth is, it will take you about 20 years to recoup your funds on that because of the overall cost. You have to put a new roof on your home. And all those panels are made in China. They're not being made here. So who are we helping? We're helping China. Sounds like an interesting prospect that Biden put into place. Let's use Chinese components, parts, and give money to their companies so that we as Americans are reliant on them. That's why he's undoing all this.
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Well, and all of those had significant subsidies as well. And we need to get away from all of these subsidies and tax incentives and tax credits and get to an even economic playing field so that the best products can be brought to market that provide reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources for Americans. And if we do that, Americans will thrive and flourish. And we can coexist and take good care, be good stewards of our environment as well, Lauren Fix.
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I agree with that 100%. I think that people aren't aware that the oil industry gets subsidies as well. That should go away. There shouldn't be any subsidies to any form of energy. I know that they're putting subsidies in place for nuclear power, which is fantastic because it actually is efficient. They're going to do smaller, healthier, safer power supplies. And here in New York, they shut down a plant that was supplying New York City. So where are they getting their power from? Canada. Why are we going to Canada to get power that comes from their nuclear power plants and sending it down to the states? So that's why we were having tariff issues. That's why Canada will just shut off the power to the U.S., which is really stupid. But it's important to note, we can supply ourselves with energy. We have the energy capabilities without wind and solar. But all it takes... is us to disconnect from other countries supporting us with energy, which makes zero sense. And I know President Trump knows that. I know he's working on that. And Colorado may be doing the same thing, and you may not even know it. You may get your electric bill like, I got mine. I'm like, whoa, that's super high. I mean, my electric bill here, and I live in Buffalo, New York, has doubled. And why? Because we're getting our energy from Canada and they're putting a tariff on it and we're paying for that. And that doesn't make any sense when I live near Niagara Falls and we have natural energy coming from the water because we do have the power authority that Nikolai Tesla put into place. way back in the turn of the century. So these are things that don't make sense. And this is what President Trump's trying to undo. So subsidies for any of these energy companies should go away. That's your tax dollars that should go back into roads and bridges and other things that make sense. Education. There's a million things you can think of. We all have things we can think of. Or our own pockets. Yeah, well, essentially you pay for it too, right? Every time you get your electric bill, natural gas where I am as well. And that has not gone up as much, but that is a smarter choice already. And what do you think is charging all these electric cars? Oil and natural gas. This all doesn't make sense. There's a lot of smoke and mirrors that the previous administrations had put into place. And We're starting to realize that even some of the Republican past leaders, which I believe include Bush, were not necessarily on our side. There's a lot of rhinos out there, Republicans in name only, and you can see them, and they're starting to show their true colors when they start making, picking sides, essentially. Which side are you on? Now we know who you are. And these are real issues.
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They are real issues. And out here in Colorado, we've got a governor and a state legislature that is trying to totally shut down oil, natural gas and coal. And we've got some really significant natural gas fields out here. And they are through rules and regulations and taxes and fees trying to shut down. this reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy source. It is just crazy to be able to make that happen. We're talking with Lauren Fix. You can find her Car Coach Reports at Substack and CarCoachReports.com. And I want to talk with her about tariffs when we come back. And before we do that, if you need a mortgage, first or second mortgage, reverse mortgage, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are raising money for this remodel of the Marine Memorial. the official Marine Memorials right here in Golden, Colorado. It's time for a facelift and we need to honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And of course, liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. On the line with me is Lauren Fix, Car Coach Reports. Lauren Fix, what about Trump's tariffs and how's that affecting the automotive industry?
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Well, this is something new. When President Trump signed this mandate to removing the mandate for electric vehicles, he said, you know what? I think we're going to have to put some more tariffs in place. Much like what he's doing with other countries, he needs, this is for the auto industry, much like other countries, he needs to get them to the table. But the ultimate goal is, and people don't understand this, why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? The goal is to bring manufacturing back to the United States, number one. Number two, In order for car prices to lower, we have to lower costs to manufacturers. And the only way to do that is to bring production back. Because under Clinton and under Obama and even under Bush, they were incentivizing shipping manufacturing to other countries. And over the years, we used to make microchips here. They're now made in Taiwan. Why would you do that? There's jobs here. So their goal was a different economy. political view to ship all manufacturing overseas and everybody here would work for the government and that's where you're seeing all these government layoffs because a government job is great but you're not producing anything you're just you're just bolstering the cost of us living and everything gets more expensive for you and me and everyone nobody gets a break on that And so the goal is with tariffs is to get manufacturers to bring product back. Now, many of them have already started this. Years ago, under Clinton, BMW, over 25 years ago, produced, built a plant in South Carolina. They're the number one manufacturer of products. BMW in the entire world is here in South Carolina. Well, not in South Carolina, but in the U.S. Volvo has also produced a plant here. But many of their drivelines are made in other countries and literally anywhere. They could be China, Mexico. Audi builds cars in Mexico. They're talking about moving products here to the U.S. because they already have a plant, Volkswagen Group Volkswagen. owns Audi, and they have space in their Chattanooga, Tennessee plant where they build Volkswagens, and they could easily build Audis. They're pretty much the same with different bodies and some different components. That could be done. So they're looking into that. So we're starting to see other brands of Honda, big, big selling products. They moved their production to Mexico because it was cheaper. Now they said, oh, no, no, no, no, we're bringing it back to Indiana. Because they're only using 60% of their capacity. They have a lot of empty plant space. We don't want that. We want jobs here, which helps our economy. And so he's going to push for this. Car manufacturers are making moves. They're starting to wake up. GM is, interestingly, working for this. You know, we're all electric. No, no, but we just put $1.4 million into our plants for gasoline engines. So which is it? So I actually called them out on that. They weren't very happy with me, but the facts are the facts, and I'll always stick with that. But you're seeing every brand starting to look at moving their production from other countries. The final goal will be USMCA, which is supposed to be renegotiated in July of 2026. President Trump wants to bring them back to the table beforehand because they found a loophole and they used that to hurt us by taking manufacturing and move it to Mexico, where there's no unions, cost of labor is much less, moving it to Canada, which bolstered Canada's economy and gave them jobs but took jobs away from us. So that's why he's trying to bring it back to the table. None of this back and forth across the border with components and cars and trying to play around. Mexico has already started talking with President Trump. They've reduced their tariff down to 15 percent. Canada, they won't sit at the table. They have a new leader and he's trying to show that he's a tough guy. But I think he's going to lose in the end on that.
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So these tariffs, I had seen a headline that a automotive parts store was the first casualty of tariffs. I just saw the headline, of course. I hate to see anybody go out of business. What about that?
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And a couple car manufacturers are a couple suppliers and parts suppliers that have been in trouble. And I agree with you. I don't like to see any big auto parts chain go out of business because it reduces the options for a lot of people in smaller cities where there might only be an advanced or a NAPA and so forth. Some brands are doing well. They pick up the difference. The reason is they're getting a lot of their parts from China because they were cheaper. And they were essentially knockoffs. We've all seen that. Oh, look at this great... whatever but i can get it from china for less so they were looking at profit margins and starting to bring in supply from overseas and again that helped bolster their profit margin but now that the tariffs in place it makes it less you know the profit disappears and now they have to look at other suppliers and all those original suppliers well they're either out of business because that's what the past administrations have wanted, or they don't have space to start producing that. It has to ramp up production. So in the meantime, you're watching a lot of consolidation going on in the auto parts world, not just with the obvious names, you know, like Advance and names like that, but you're looking at A lot of the sub suppliers that you wouldn't see, we're seeing a lot of mergers and acquisitions going on. And this may actually be helpful because we're going to be more efficient, more effective, more profitable. And that would mean more jobs. It's still going to be the same demand. It's just going to be less suppliers, which is not necessarily good. But nobody likes change. And you just have to you have to live with that. It's going to be that way. And, you know, as long as President Trump can get these policies in place. And I'm hopeful that whoever comes in after him is on the same America first mindset, because we can't do this back and forth. It makes it very difficult for Americans.
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Well, it really does. And ultimately, on Make America Great Again, we want people to be able to thrive and flourish. And we've got to get our freedom back, Lauren Fix, because I just feel this onerous kind of invisible boot upon our necks right now. And we've got to get our freedom back.
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I agree 100 percent. And the freedom is not just that. It's also a lot of things that we don't think about every single day. I'm currently working on the kill switch mandate. We're trying to get to Byron Donald. He's very much in support of having it removed. Thomas Massey, who is the House of Representatives, has tried this. We need to get away from them collecting our data, watching us, and trying to control us, because that's really the past administration's goal, control the population. No matter where you stand politically, you can be on any side of the aisle. They want your data, they want to control you, and they want to make sure that you drive what they want, go the distance they want, so they can keep an eye on you. I don't need a nanny, I don't need a babysitter, and neither do you.
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So with that, we only have two minutes left, but I've been thinking about this whole data thing this weekend. And I mentioned it with Jody Henze earlier in the show. But I would love to start a movement of own your own data. And so if you want to sell your data, okay, you can do that. But instead of the big tech owning our data, I think that we could get some legs on this. What do you think? And just a minute, comment on that and ruminate on it. We'll talk about it next month.
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Yeah, I'm definitely 100%. And if you're doing something, let me know. Let's get that out there because I think people don't realize that all that information in your car, which is probably even more than your home, they're listening to you. You know that. We talk about our mattress and suddenly we're all getting text messages and notifications in our emails about mattresses. They're collecting the data. They've been listening through our phones. It's your data. If you want to sell it, that's up to you. You're not going to get a lot of money for it. But they're making millions and billions of dollars selling information from your car, your home, your phone. And that belongs to you.
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So we're going to have to start a movement on that, Lauren Fix. About 30 seconds left. Your final thought.
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There's a lot more stuff coming out. You're going to see gasoline prices increase in Colorado, California, and where I am in New York, because Gavin Newsom's trying a different angle. He can't mandate cars, and he's going to still try for his state and probably yours as well as mine. They're going to make another attempt at this, but they're going to start raising gas prices, trying to force people to electric. I'll be covering that. There's a story coming out Tuesday night on my Car Coach Reports channel. We'll have all the breaking news. Car Coach Reports on YouTube. You can find me on Rumble under the same name as well as my sub stack. All forms of social media where I also share at Lauren Fix. All my car reviews have moved to Car Smarts. Whether you're looking for electric, plug-in, hybrid, whatever it may be, we cover it all there. And we put up stories twice a week. There's lots of car reviews and lots of car information. And if you think, ah, I don't care, it really does affect you. It may not affect you today, but it will affect you in the near future.
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Lauren Fix, Car Coach Reports and CarSmarts. Great. We will talk with you next month. Thank you. And our quote for the end of the show is from Nathaniel Green, Continental Army General. He said, America must raise an empire of permanent duration supported upon the grand pillars of truth, freedom, and religion, encouraged by the smiles of justice and defended by her own patriotic sons. Today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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And he would go in and said he would reason with people. and try to persuade them which those are not force words and i was thinking that's one of the things that we really work to do on this show is to look at these things try to reason put reason on these issues and then work to persuade people to this idea of liberty the responsible exercise of freedom So we do that on a regular basis each Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. And it's on all KLZ platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And I really appreciate it. All of you. And also then you can hear it on Spotify and iTunes as well. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim Monson. at kimmonson.com the text line is 720-605-0647 and thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice on an independent station we're searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it Some of the big headlines out there, obviously, we're watching this thing with Iran and Israel and would love to get to a peace there. I think it was Richard, the limo guy, had texted me last week and said that basically Trump had said with Iran we would like to negotiate something they had not negotiated in good faith. had not been telling the truth. And he'd given them about 60 days. On day 61, the Israelis took action. And so stay tuned on that. We've got that going on. And then the No King's Day weekend, this last weekend, it really is focused on a personality that people don't like. And that That hatred has been fomented in mainstream media big time. And Trump does have a big personality and he's trying to get a lot done. And there's a lot of really positive things happening, as Lauren Fix mentioned, on freedom of mobility, also on energy freedom. working in our military to get our military back to a real fighting force. So he's doing some really good things. And so we want to stay tuned on that. But this last weekend, we saw that a Democrat politician or two Democrat politicians in Minnesota were targeted and shot. And one of the politicians and her husband were died. And I think the other politician and his wife are in critical condition. This is not okay in America. This is not okay whatsoever. And I know we'll get more information, hopefully, about the motives of the killer on this. But our thoughts and prayers go out to the families of these politicians. This is not okay. Let's see, next thing, let's get over here to our word of the day. It's incongruous. It's spelled I-N-C-O-N-G-R-U-O-S. Could be lacking in harmony or incompatible. Not in agreement as with principles, inconsistent. Not in keeping with what is correct, proper, or logical, inappropriate. As I was looking at all of the narrative on the No Kings protests, They were using words of we the people, for example, from Lincoln's speech, of the people, by the people, and for the people. And so they take words, these freedom, liberty words, and they use them. But ultimately, the No Kings protest was all about, I think, hatred of Donald Trump, hatred of America, hatred trying to divide us, but yet they were using some of the words that are so important to us, which those two things, it's incongruent to do that. And so let's continue to really dissect these words, what they mean. Our real No King's Day, as Tom Cranawinter said, is July 4th, 1776. Our quote of the day is from Major General Nathaniel Green. He was a general in the Continental Army, was born in 1742, died in 1786. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, shouldn't have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values. It is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there, which is pretty amazing. And that is why the center focuses on many of our Medal of Honor recipients with their beautiful portraits of valor, their great Medal of Honor quote book. Get more information by going to their website. That is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is former or retired border agent from the San Diego sector, Chris Harris. Chris, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good morning, Kim. Thank you, as always, for having me on.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good to have you. And we just got through No King's Day, which, again, I want to remind everybody that the real No King's Day was July 4th, 1776, where the Americans said that we would not be ruled by a king, that we would put in place a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. And that does require civic engagement. But you're out in California. We've seen these pictures from Los Angeles. We're seeing headlines like this. One of them was no King's protests, SUV charges, protester rallies, largely peaceful, which would mean that they were not totally peaceful. What's your thoughts about that, Chris Harris?
SPEAKER 11 :
So, I mean, look, people have a right to air their grievances that's in our Constitution. I have no problem with people peacefully protesting. Now, the problem is, even if it starts relatively peaceful, one, they close down roads. So, I mean, you're inconveniencing people. I got to say, I worked with an activist group several years ago when I was a labor guy for the National Border Patrol Council for the Union. And they wanted to have a protest. They wanted to shut down traffic at rush hour. And I talked to one of their leaders. I said, I don't know. Have you guys ever done a study to see if this is really effective to get people to want to support you wherein they can't get home or if they've got to bring somebody to the hospital or to the doctor's office or their kid has to go somewhere to meet with a college entrance guy? You're really disrupting people's lives. So is that something that's, like, you've done a study to say this is actually the way to go, and they're like, well, not really. I said, okay, I just got to say, if I'm stuck in traffic, you're not endearing me towards you. So, you know, God bless, have your protests. And I guess most of them were relatively violence-free. We had protests out here. They shut down quite a few roads to accommodate that, you know, causing headache for people and heartache. There were scattered violent acts. Other areas had much more violence. L.A., again, descended into violence and certain other cities that are prone to do that. I'm going to say it usually seems to be more partisan cities, the ones that are more blue. They seem to have an issue with law enforcement in general, not wanting to obey laws. And then you get Antifa involved and it turns into a horror show. So, yeah, they had their protest. No King's Day. God bless. I think it's kind of foolish. I'm not... I don't personally like Trump, but I support him. I voted for him, and there was reasons I voted for him. I pulled up my big boy pants, used my critical thinking skills, and said, I think he's going to do the best for our country, and I still think that. He's going to secure our border, which was a major issue for me, and he's doing that. But then I asked my friends that are more – I'm originally from New York. I have a lot of liberal friends. You guys keep thinking he's going to be a tyrant and he's not going to leave. He was here for four years. Did he leave? Yes, he did. So I don't know why all of a sudden things he didn't do in 2016, 2020 period, you all of a sudden now ascribe he's going to do all these dictatorial things and basically be this tyrannical master and, oh, we have to get rid of him. And I'm seeing signs saying get rid of him now. The only way to really get rid of him now would be assassination. Is that what they're advocating? I'm a little confused on that. But yeah, I mean, God bless. They had their protests and they let America know what some segment of it feels. I think that they're misinformed, deliberately so by a lot of the media and by certain members of elected officials that they are deliberately misinformed. The only we can do, Kim, is do what we're doing now and try to explain to people what's really going on. And hopefully they'll say, OK, it's not as bad as I've been led to believe as far as ICE and Border Patrol and arrests and so on and so forth.
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So, Chris Harris, I have seen some reports that Trump is going to ease back on deportations of hospitality workers, farm workers, that there are those that have thought that he's been too aggressive on that. What's your thoughts on that?
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Yeah, I've seen some complaints about that, and I understand where some of that comes from. I'm going to suggest that there's just going to be a refocusing, that the priority might not be somebody working in the fields, working hard. Now, understand, I know up here in Oxnard, they went and they targeted one individual in the field. So, you know, that guy might have had a warrant for him. What I'm seeing that I've never seen before is the Border Patrol and ICE are actually acting on a lot of Interpol red notices. So these are bad guys that came to the United States to hide from their country because they committed some egregious crime in their country. And I've never seen this in all the years I worked for the federal government. I worked 26 years in federal law enforcement. I never saw so many red notices being apprehended. and returned to their nation of origin, extradited, to face justice in their country. I mean, they're getting people from Guatemala and all around the world, quite frankly, who are wanted for rape and robbery and murder. So there's that. So that guy that is working in the fields, he might just be laying low, and they figured out through intelligence and good detective work that's where he is. So if you see them go and get one guy in the field, I don't think people should take that as, oh, they're going to start raiding every field everywhere in the United States. That being said, if they've done that, yeah, they might refocus to basically cities. And I think you're going to see a major focus by Donald Trump and Kristi Noem and Tom Homan on some major, major cities. And I actually think Trump just mentioned it, but it's what I expected, that he's going to hit cities that they'd like to blatantly say, we're a sanctuary city. We're going to help you evade federal law. And those cities are going to be cities such as L.A., Chicago, New York, et cetera. I think you're going to see a major focus there. So those people living in these inner city areas, they're not being as productive. They're not working on farms. They're not doing that. A lot of them went there. They were staying in hotels for free, getting EBT cards and so on and so forth for free, SNAP cards for free. So I don't think that's going to affect productivity of agriculture at all. So I think that you're going to see a refocusing of from countryside and rural to inner cities and cities.
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Now, that seems like that makes sense because we have a limited amount of resources. So for sure, get the bad guys out of here. So that makes a lot of sense to me. Then secondly, people that were brought here not to go after the American dream, to work, to create value. But so that that next round would be all these people that have come here and been promised free stuff. that they go back. And then we've got to figure out a way for people that have come here illegally that are working in these businesses. And I know that there's been something called the red card, where as employers could work with other countries where employees could come across the border and could work here. I know we can come up with a solution. Absolutely. Absolutely, and we should. It says, despite repeated claims that Colorado is not a sanctuary state for illegal immigration, Governor Jared Polis on May 23rd signed a bill into law that both reinforces and expands Colorado's existing protections for immigrants living in the country illegally. It's Senate Bill 276. It's called Protect Civil Rights Immigration Status and was a top priority for major Democrats in the state legislature. What's your thoughts on that, Chris Harris?
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Well, look, every president has deported people. There are deportations under Obama. Nobody seemed to care. So what I find particularly, almost egregious, is that all of a sudden these people, and a lot of them are decent people, again, they're being fed something and they're buying into it. All these people are not coming out of the war. It's just because Trump's doing it. I mean, the hatred for Donald Trump is real. It's surreal, but it's real. And I got to ask you, were you protesting? And were you, you know, in the streets rioting? Were you protesting? Were you contacting your congressmen, your senators? When President Obama was, when Bill Clinton, that's when I got hired by Bill Clinton. That was the first big hiring push for the Border Patrol pretty much ever. And he really did ramp up deportations. All these guys in the past said that they were for deporting criminals. They all said it. You can look up the videotapes of Obama saying it, of even Biden saying it, of certainly Bill Clinton saying it, Hillary Clinton saying it. So all of a sudden now Trump does it, and it's bad. And I just – I really wish people could get out of this fog of thinking where anything – if Trump does it, i.e., it's bad. No, it's not necessarily bad. I don't like everything he does or says, but on this issue, and that's what we're talking about, he's doing nothing wrong. He's enforcing federal law. I mean, these are laws on the books. And all of a sudden people are like, well, we don't want you to enforce them. You can't just pick and choose. I mean, we're either a nation of people or a nation of laws. And a nation of people can easily become a nation of mob rule. So we either want to go by the rule of law or we don't. And so you don't get to pick and choose, oh, I don't like that crime, so just don't enforce it anymore. If that's your case, then work with Congress and change the law. That's how the system is set up. To talk about, oh, I'm afraid of trumping a fascist or a dictator and this and that. You're doing dictatorship. You're saying it's going to be mob rule. We don't like this law. We're not going to work through the system. We're going to work around the system and say we're not going to let you enforce these duly enacted laws. That's not the way it works. That's the danger. He's doing the proper thing. And you mentioned before about finding ways to alleviate concerns for the agriculture industry and then certainly partly the hospitality industry. Years ago, they had the Procero program, and we need to bring something like that back where people can come for X amount of months, they work, they get American dollars, and they take it back to their home country, generally Mexico, but wherever, and they go back, and then they come back the next year. And it's a win-win for everybody because they get to go back to their families and their houses. They don't have to leave everything behind. They come to the U.S., they make American dollars, which is important to them and to the Mexican economy. And we get the fruit of their labors. And there's nothing wrong with that. And so I think we're going to hopefully find ways, and this is on Republicans, too, to work out a system that's fair and equitable, that lets people that do want to pursue the American dream either come here part time or find a way, a pathway. Hey, I'm here working. I want to pay taxes. I want to do this. I want to learn English. I want to participate in American Dream. And my wife and I had discussions on it. She's from Mexico. She was born in Mexico. Her mom and dad came here, and they worked their butts off. And she has noticed that there's a different vibe of people coming. She's done jobs for the county, working with benefits, and people just coming in. They've been here one day. I want all my benefits. So there's a difference for a lot, not a lot, but for a lot of them that aren't coming for the American dream. They're just coming for a handout. And that needs to stop, that we can't afford that. But the guys, the men and women that want to come here and work hard, that do not want to commit crimes while they're here, and that's a key point, and they want to go along with the system, they want to try to learn English, because we're a melting pot and you have to try to melt in, that's fine. We need to find a system for that. And I have hopes that we can. I want to bring out one important point, Kim, is that it looks like, even according to the Washington Post, and I've done work with the WAPO in the past. I don't always agree with them on a lot of things. But they're saying that it looks like possibly up to a million people have self-supported so far since Trump has become president. That's a huge win. That's, you know, we don't have to take enforcement actions. We don't have to pay for that. They return to their homeland, and then if they want to, they can try to find a way to come here under a legal pathway, and then they would be welcomed back. So you're not hearing a lot about that in the press. Like I said, the WAPO talked about it. So if that's true, and I've seen some other things that was over 750,000. um so the wall posting million uh are self-reporting and and then that means that the the crackdowns are are working on a secondary level of people saying you know what i don't want to take a chance of getting caught possibly having to do some federal time, being removed. And then if I come back, I'm definitely facing federal time at UFC 1326 reentry after deportation. Let me self-deport. Take the $1,000 bonus they're giving me. Let me fly back. They'll fly me back. And let me see about coming to the U.S. in a legal manner. That's a huge win. And I think people should be talking about that because that's a great secondary effect to the enforcement actions we've been seeing so far by ICE and U.S. Border Patrol.
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That's an idea that's been around for a while, Lamecha and others, including one time Lieutenant Governor of California was a member. They had a manifesto published years ago. Then they quickly pulled it offline, but a lot of people kept it. Yeah, basically they said that several areas would return to Mexico. First of all, those areas only belong to Mexico for 20 some years. They belong to Spain and then they belong to Mexico for a bit. Then we had a war with them and then we bought it. So we've had it for a hundred and some years. So it's suspect to say it's Mexican. But let's go with this premise. So I always thought it was funny, like, all these people left Mexico because they wanted to get away from what happens down there and the corruption and the cartels and all that. So they came here. Now you want to give this back to Mexico? Then I saw, hmm, they wanted to be a semi-autonomous region. So, again, they're going to try to, like, rule themselves and be their own little empire. So it's ludicrous to think it would work. It's not going to happen. Hopefully not. I mean, that's not how international law works. um and again you left the country for a reason why would you then want to have this part of that country that you left for a reason um good point wow people in the in the intelligence uh area uh in our agency um you're gonna see less mexican flags you're at first you did you saw mexican flags you saw palestinian flags you saw guatemalan flags you saw flags from countries in africa all being waived, and certain powers to be on the left realized the optics were horrible. That was actually a win for Trump. I mean, I know even some moderates that don't like Trump were turned off by seeing all these people rioting and then flying the flags in defiance of this country, the country they left, flying those flags. And the question then begs, Why don't you just go back there? If you love it so much there, go back there. I'm not telling you have to unless you're illegally, but the fact is you left for a reason, and now you're running around with a flag of a foreign nation state. But you're going to see less of them. So the message went out, for no King's Day at least, on the Mexican flags and foreign nation state flags, fly American flags. So especially in San Diego, we saw a lot of people flying American flags upside down and all that, but a lot less because the optics were horrible. It let people know what people, you know, it let people on TV, even the mainstream, the legacy media, it was hard for them not to show it. And so when people saw all these foreign flags being flown, I think it really shook up a lot of people very quietly. These aren't the people that are going to go out there and argue with the protesters. They're just going to vote. They're going to remember that come the next election. They're quietly. They're not going to argue with their friends and neighbors who are liberal and who might try to disown them or whatever. They're just going to keep that to themselves, internalize it. And when the elections come, they're going to remember that. And so people on the left that are behind some of these riots and protests, they realize the optics are bad. So pay attention to that. You're already seeing less of the foreign flags, specifically Mexican flags, and you're seeing more American flags falling upside down. But again, to think that you're going to take back California, Nevada, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, part of Wyoming, all that, and take it back so it becomes part of Mexico again, it's just ludicrous. And if people are advocating for that, then they're actually advocating almost that that's insurrection. If you want to talk about insurrection, talking about seceding from this country and going to another country, that's civil war stuff. That's what you get. That's secession. And that's not allowed. We didn't allow it back in 1860. We're not going to allow it now. But it shows the people's true colors, where they're at. A lot of people on the left that are activists, hardcore activists from Mexico and so on and so forth, they call it voting by their feet, by putting enough people, mass migration into this country, that they will then be able to get what they're after, which would be to break that part of those states back to some semi-autonomous zone of Mexico. That's dangerous. And then that is, that's insurrection, that's secession. And we don't allow that. We didn't allow it, and hopefully we won't allow it now. And hopefully enough people will see some of these protests and riots and go, wow, these people hate America. They're flying foreign flags. There's Palestinian flags. There's flags from here. There's flags from there. They have no love for this country. They just want to be here for free stuff. Those are the people that we want to remove, quite frankly. If they're here illegally, those are the people we want to remove. If there's students on visas here, they should also have their visas canceled and be removed. That's not why we let you come here to study, not to protest, not to riot. And I think we're starting to see this kind of, we're seeing a lot of federal district judges. There's 94 in the U.S. And again, under other presidents, I've never seen this amount of activity by these activist judges. All of a sudden, finding reasons that they can do a nationwide injunction and stop the president from doing things that, to me, appear that constitutionally he's been able to do that forever. Now, all of a sudden, it bothers you. But I think that's going to ultimately have to be resolved by the Supreme Court. And I think we are going to see people, their student visas revoked, certain universities, their right to have people come here on student visas revoked. And that truly is the power of U.S. government. That's not... Private universities don't have the right to say, you have to let these people in to come to our college. They don't have that. That's not a right. That falls squarely under the U.S. government executive branch. So we shall see where that goes. But if you're here illegally or on a student visa and you're rioting and protesting, you've got to go. And I'm glad that the men and women of ICE and U.S. Border Patrol, and again, U.S. Border Patrol and the Southwest Border, I've said this over and over again, Kim, is a minority-majority agency. So everybody, oh, they're white supremacist, fascist, they're mostly Hispanic, in U.S. Border Patrol. So kudos to the men and women who are doing the job that they were elected to, hired to do, and duly enacted laws, enforced them. And that should be what people want. And all of a sudden, we hate ICE, we hate Border Patrol, we want them dead. That's evil.
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That is evil. Question on the border crossings. What do the numbers look like these days?
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some of the best ever, best ever, at least to the 1960s, maybe even before that. The numbers are down dramatically. That's one of the reasons that they can take assets, U.S. Border Patrol assets. And again, nothing says we have to, U.S. Border Patrol has to act on the border only. I mean, it says in the name border, but that's not, by law, we can take enforcement action, you know, all 50 states, commonwealths, territories. I mean, they send Border Patrol to foreign nations. They've been in Iraq, Afghanistan, Colombia. But because the border is so much better now in conjunction with other federal allies, including the U.S. military, they're able to draw assets from the border right now and send them to areas where they need to be sent to assist other agencies, including ICE. But the border numbers are staggeringly low. Fentanyl is down. I forget which news organization. It might have been CNN. One of their talking heads said, Couldn't understand why fentanyl coming into the U.S. is down so much. And a lot of people laughed at CNN. Like, you can't figure it out? Maybe because there's border enforcement? So the number of fentanyl, the amount of fentanyl coming into the U.S. is plummeted? Does that maybe strike a chord with you? Like, that might be the reason because we are enforcing our nation's borders? And Kim, you don't know bones about this. And I do this in my speaking engagements. I mention this all the time. No nation state in the history of the world has been able to succeed and survive if they can't control their own borders. Ultimately, it leads to their demise. Just ask the Roman Empire. If you can't control your borders, you won't last long as a sovereign nation state. So there's nothing inherently wrong or racist or whatever controlling your borders. And we are doing that now quite successfully. We knew what it took to work. It's not something like, oh, we don't know what to do. We did. Under the last administration, they undid everything previously, and it was utter chaos. We lost track in the last administration of 320,000-plus children. They were given away to people that we don't know who they are. So we regained control of the border. What we're doing now is the second phase of that is enforcing interiorly people that came across that shouldn't have come across, including some really bad people. And the third stage, as we talked about earlier, Kim, is to find a way for Congress to work together and inform and revamp the immigration system to do what we want as a nation state. That's something that's fair and just and allows people a pathway to get here to work and pursue the American dream. People we want here, not you don't get this. I use this analogy all the time is that you have a right to decide who comes into your house. I speak about this. I've probably said in your program before. Nobody thinks anything weird if somebody comes to your door and says, hey, I want to come in. You go, no, you're not coming to my house. That's okay. Well, it's the same thing writ large for the U.S. government. And the same thing if you let somebody in as a guest, meaning under a visa, and they misbehave, so they're in your house, you say, hey, I don't like your behavior. I let you in as a guest. I'm kicking you out. That's acceptable. So it should be acceptable writ large for the United States to do that at its borders and within its interior. Because if we don't, we're going to lose our nation.
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So this is absolutely imperative, critical, that the Trump administration continue on this trajectory of getting people that are here that are criminals, just kicking them back out to their countries, and then also people that have come here for all the free stuff, they need to go back as well. And so there's plenty of work to do just with those two things, yes? Yes.
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Yeah, and it's not going to get done under one administration. There's probably about 30 million people in this country that shouldn't be here, that are here unlawfully or illegally. Some entered legally under a visa and never left when the visa expired or they're out of status. Others entered illegally. They jumped the fence. They crossed somewhere. That's all actually a federal crime. You would see 1325 entry without inspection. It's a misdemeanor the first time, a felony the second time. We need to go after them. It's a long process. I think that there might be some tinkering around the edges and a little refocusing, and that's fine. You try something, it seems to have some negative connotations that come with it, then you reevaluate. And I think this administration is capable of doing that, sitting down, you know, Kristi Noem, Tom Holman, President Trump, and saying, okay, this is causing some grief. This isn't working. This is not the best allocation of our resources. So we're going to refocus. We're going to fine tune. And that's what adults do. That's what leaders do. And that's what I think we're starting to see right now. And the focus, if you're a sanctuary state leader, you should be concerned because the focus is going to be on your city. Trump did not mention Denver, but I would suggest that's probably on the list. And if there's going to be rioting, he's going to call out the National Guard, and all of a sudden people are going crazy about that. Oh, that's a dictator. Nobody cleared when Dwight David Eisenhower, President Eisenhower, did it against Arkansas to D.C. agree to schools. He did the exact same thing. He called them out in direct opposition to that governor, and he had them do what he had them do. So calling out the National Guard because of rioting, Bush did it in the L.A. riots in 92, it's been done before by Presidents including against, you know, opposition of the governor at the time. So it was ruled legal. It was constitutional. But now some people are like, oh, my God, that's a dictator. OK, how come another president did it? You didn't see never problem with it. Good point. So Chris, that that might happen.
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Okay, well, Chris Harris, this has been great information, and we will get you back on really soon. Really appreciate your perspective. This is Chris Harris. He is a retired border agent from the San Diego sector. These important discussions come to you because of our sponsors. If you've been injured, reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. see all that they have planned for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And my friends, it is important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And speaking of that, a little bit later today, I will be going out to Fort Logan as Don Whipple will be interred there. He is a World War II Iwo Jima veteran, and he just recently passed on an Really an amazing man, and so I really do honor him. And I got to know him through Cooper's Troopers, which is a group of combat veterans, marine combat veterans, that meets on a regular basis up in north Denver. And Don Whipple, an honor to have you in my life and really appreciate that. Let's see here. A couple of things. I did want to mention regarding climate. As you all know, I had the great honor to moderate a climate conversation, and you can watch that for free at climateconversation.com. And it was the brainchild of Walt Johnson. He and his wife, Ramey, financed it to have just a real conversation about all of this climate narrative. And we also did a great podcast series with a number of great scientists and experts. But I found this. This is from Climate Compass. And it says, climate models are shaken by swift Antarctic ice buildup. That has been one of their narratives is that all the ice caps are melting. which there was a time that they were lower, that they had melted even more. But interesting that the ice is growing in Antarctica, which would really go against the climate change narrative. Of course, the climate change narrative has been used as a cudgel. to work to control our lives through controlling our energy sources, our freedom of mobility, our showers, our toilets, our light bulbs, all those things. And we're realizing that And the other thing that I learned in all of this is the whole climate change narrative is based on models. And you can garbage in, garbage out. You can get whatever you want from those models. And so this is really interesting. The climate models are being shaken by the swift Antarctic ice buildup. So I thought that you would all find that interesting. Next thing on my idea about own your data. And a great question coming in from one of our listeners said, here's some things to consider on our own your own data is how will you access websites that require your data? Good question. What mechanism will be used as a clearinghouse for selling it? Good question. Would you have control over downline people who buy and resell data? Good question as well. I think the first thing that we need to do, though, is have people start to think about owning their own data instead of big tech and owning your data. Let's figure out – let's just have this conversation about owning your own data and what that would mean for you. And so, again, I love your thoughts on how will this be implemented, but I think the first step is to talk about owning your own data. And I think one of the other things – to figure out is how much does big tech make off of your data? And I know we can find that out. I'm pretty sure they probably don't want us to find that out, but I think that we probably could do that. Next thing, this Bracero program that we had implemented, it was a program which was designed to fill agriculture gaps shortages during World War II. It offered employment contracts to 4.6 million bruceros in 24 U.S. states. It was the largest guest worker program in U.S. history. So Eric had a good point here. He had said, he said his concern was with, for example, illegal alien hospitality workers and that are here. They have stolen Social Security numbers from USA Citizens. What about that? And Eric, you're right. We should not have illegals working here. Somehow a guest worker program would make some sense. The Bracero program, the Red Card program, something like that. But good point on that, Eric. And let's see, is there's... Okay. Anything else you want to talk about on the text line, just text me. I'd like to hear about that. Last thing, this is a headline that I'm very concerned about, and this was from the... Colorado politics. It says ranchers and Colorado lawmakers raise concerns over the sole finalist for this state land board director. It's Nicole Rosa Marino, the sole finalist, and she will be the next executive director of the Colorado State Land Board. And she has been in over 30 years advocating for the restoration of agricultural land to native prairie. What that means is taking land out of production for food for humans. And she was recently confirmed. And I think that ultimately, we've got to really keep an eye on this because Our farmers and our ranchers, our food producers are really under attack, and also our energy producers. I think that her focus would be to keep humans off of the land. And we can actually coexist and be good stewards of the land and our environment. And so stay tuned on that as well. Our quote for the end of the show is from Continental Army General Nathaniel Green. He said, America must raise an empire of permanent duration, supported upon the grand pillars of truth, freedom, and religion, encouraged by the smiles of justice and defended by her own patriotic sons. So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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