In today's episode, delve into the economic strategies under President Trump's administration focusing on the newly imposed tariffs and their potential effects on international trade and domestic job creation. Explore the importance of the Geneva Consensus Declaration and other significant policies from a Biblical worldview perspective. Don't miss TikTok's deep-dive discussion on Tulsi Gabbard's contentious nomination and what her past legislative record reveals about her current role.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
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Well, good afternoon. Hope you've had a fantastic week. And welcome to this Friday edition of Washington Watch. I am your Friday host, Jody Heiss. I'm the Senior Vice President here at the Family Research Council and President of FRC Action. And we welcome you. Thank you for joining us today. We've got a lot to cover. We'll begin. It's been less than two weeks since President Donald Trump returned to the White House. And man, has he ever been hitting the road running at breakneck pace, more so even than his first term. He signed a slew of executive orders relating to the military, DEI initiatives, transgender surgery bans on children, and the list just simply goes on and on and on. Yesterday, he took further action on the Federal Aviation Agency, also known as the FAA. And of course, this is in response to Wednesday's mid-air collision between a passenger plane and a military helicopter. It claimed the lives of 67 people.
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To deliver accountability, President Trump swiftly signed a memorandum directing an immediate assessment of the Federal Aviation Administration to ensure the federal government is maintaining the highest personnel and policy aviation safety standards.
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That was White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt earlier today. And with President Trump taking so much action, Congress might be having a hard time keeping up. Well, I'll be joined in just a moment by Congressman Chuck Fleischman to discuss this. And there were a lot of fireworks yesterday during the confirmation hearings for three of President Trump's pick for his administration. And there's a lot of buzz, particularly regarding Tulsi Gabbard, the nominee for director of national intelligence, who couldn't answer this softball question from Republican Senator James Langford regarding the infamous hacker and intel leaker Edward Snowden.
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Was he a traitor at the time when he took America's secrets, released them in public, and then ran to China and became a Russian citizen?
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Senator, I'm focused on the future and how we can prevent something like this from happening again.
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Wow. So what other issues might there be regarding former Congresswoman Gabbard? Well joining me here a little bit later in the program will be retired Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin to discuss that important issue. And President Trump is showing just how serious he is with his America First agenda. He's using tariffs as a tool to strengthen U.S. industries and bring back jobs here to the United States. And the White House has announced today new tariffs on Canada, on Mexico, and China. In fact, those tariffs will take place tomorrow. So what could the impact be of all of that? Well, I'll be discussing all of this with Richard Stern. He's the director of the Center for Federal Budget at the Heritage Foundation. He'll be joining me a little bit later. And then we'll close out today's program with David Claussen. You'll be joining me for our weekly Biblical Worldview segment as we try to unpack some of the highlights of the news this week from a biblical perspective. So as always, we've got a packed show, a lot coming your way. You don't want to miss any of it. But if by chance you do, our website is TonyPerkins.com, and we encourage you to keep that website close by. Before we jump into it, I also want to encourage you to download FRC's Stand Firm app. Friends, I'm telling you, this is a powerful, powerful app, and now we even have a new part of it. It refers to the first 100 days of the Trump administration. We call it the first 100 days toolkit. It comes with a number of tools that you will find extremely helpful, including what we have just added, the Trump Commitment Tracker. This is going to monitor many of the commitments that the president made during the 2024 campaign. And you'll just want to keep track of what they're doing or how they're checking off. You can also, by the way, get that tracker by going to frcaction.org slash trump tracker. But I encourage you, if you don't already have it, get the Stand Firm app. It's easy to get. You can simply text the word TOOLKIT, that's one word, TOOLKIT, to 67742. All right, let's jump into our first topic for the day. As I mentioned at the top of the program, President Trump yesterday signed a memorandum requesting an immediate assessment of aviation safety. This comes on the heels of the tragic midair collision that took place over Washington, D.C. specifically Reagan National Airport, on Wednesday night. And meanwhile, Democrats seem to be furious that their president is suggesting that a focus on DEI at the administration, at the aviation administration, may have negatively affected the agency. But friends, look, when it comes to public safety, should there be any stone left unturned? Well, we want to talk about that, and joining me now for this and more is Congressman Chuck Fleischman. He serves on the House Appropriations Committee as well as the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology. He represents Tennessee's 3rd Congressional District. Congressman, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always good to see you, my friend.
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Jody, it's always great to be with you. It was a privilege to serve with you, sir, in the House for several years. And now to see you at the Family Research Council, one of my favorite organizations in America. God bless you.
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Well, God bless you as well. Always great to see you. All right, so let's begin with this. What do you make of the actions that President Trump has taken so far, specifically as it relates to the deadly crash over D.C.? ?
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Well, obviously, I have flown over the past 15 years in and out of Reagan National Airport. I've seen the airport grow. I know this area oh so well. And my heart goes out every time I watch that fateful clip of the crash between the jet and the helicopter, the loss of life. I'm devastated. There's no question about that. But I give President Trump the highest grades. I commend him highly for making sure that all aspects of this investigation are not only transparent They've been swift, they've been honest, they've been responsive. The military is looking at this, the FAA is looking at this, the NTSB. He has gone out right away to the American people, having to face this tragedy very early in his tenure, in his second term, and he's done a very good job. The American people want answers, they want air safety, so I commend him highly.
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So what do you make of the information so far that's coming out? It seems to me, at least, that the more information that comes out, the more disturbing all of this is. Is there anything that Congress intends to do to help beef up the safety at DCA?
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That's an excellent question. Obviously, the military has already taken remedial action in terms of limiting the helicopter flights. I come in and out every week. I see these helicopters of all different types. Some are flying low, some are flying higher. But they're obviously going to have to take a look at that. So remedial measures have already been put into place. But I think Congress constitutionally, Jody, has such an important oversight role. As an appropriator, we bring people before us. We question where federal dollars are going, how they're being spent. So that key constitutional role for Congress, oversight, is very important. There'll be hearings in the House. There'll be hearings in the Senate. But once again, I commend President Trump for very quickly getting on top of this. Sean Duffy, who's done an excellent job, he was on the job less than 24 hours when this tragedy hit. They're all working very hard. They're abundantly honest. They want to get to the bottom of this. This is a tragedy, the first in over 15 years of this magnitude. Let's hope and pray it never happens again.
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Absolutely. And you're so right. Sean Duffy hit the road on that position in full steam ahead. If I can transition with you some, Congressman Flashman, as we all know, it's just been breakneck speed. President Trump has hit the ground running. Your thoughts on some of his recent executive orders?
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Well, I'm very thankful. For the past four years, and I want all of our listeners to understand this, Joe Biden and the Biden administration did more damage to this country than any other administration in our lifetime. It was ineptness. You had a commander in chief who didn't know half the things that he was doing. As a matter of fact, he would deny these to great friends of ours, like the Speaker of the House. He was a handled president from day one. This just didn't happen later in the term. This was a disaster with a capital D for the American economy, for our foreign policy, for the entire American republic. And from the inception, Donald Trump, and I give him great credit for this, by executive order, has begun to undo the damage over the past four years. It's going to take time. Four years of inept action, wrong policies taking us in a radical left-wing agenda, in an agenda that could not be more antithetical than people like myself and other good, strong Christians want to see for this country. We're going to get back on moral track, on an economic track. Our friends will be our friends. Our foes will fear us again. So kudos to President Trump for starting with that executive pen, undoing the damage that Biden has done, and working towards a better place in time for our entire country.
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Absolutely. One of the things, Congressman Fleischman, that people have told me they're concerned about, and I share their concern, is an executive order obviously can be erased by the next president if there's someone opposed to it. So what are the chances that we're going to see some of these things codified from Congress taking them up and statutorily securing these things?
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Jody, another excellent question. We've already seen a win in that regard. The Lake and Riley Act, which could not have been passed with President Biden there, he would not have signed it. We passed it in the House twice, the Senate passed it, and President Trump signed it into law. So he's one for one. We've already seen that happen. Here's the practical problem. For the next few months, we're gonna have basically a one-seat majority in the United States House on a lot of issues. We will fill those three vacant seats. They will be filled by Republicans. But at that point in time, we'll only have a four-seat majority in the House. We have a three-seat majority, fortunately, in the United States Senate, but it takes 60 votes to break a filibuster. Now, on many of the nominees, we just saw a great nominee yesterday, Chris Wright, for energy. He broke the filibuster with 62 votes. So we're going to get some of that done. But the reality is the margins are very slight and tight. So we're going to have to be very tactical in the way that we do this. Our great Republican majority has... It's not a monolith. We have moderate, center-right, and far-right folks. We all need to get together, work together, support President Trump, support our friends in the Senate, and support Speaker Mike Johnson and move our country to a better place. So, yes, can we get some legislative wins? Absolutely. But we need to go ahead and do that in the first two years. We need to work very hard to make sure that we grow in the Senate, that we keep our House majority, because for President Trump, we want a strong four years not a strong two years. In order to do that, we've got to keep the House and the Senate. President Trump knows this. J.D. Vance knows this. The American people know this. Conservatives have got to get together and stay together and work together, because we can never fall back into that radical left-wing lapse that we fell into for four years. It hurt our country deeply. Absolutely.
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Congressman Chuck Fleischman, Tennessee, always good to see you, my friend. Thank you so much for joining us today on Washington Watch and for the input that you've been able to provide. Thank you so much.
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Thank you. My best to Tony as well. Thank you.
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All right, friends, don't go anywhere. When we come back, FRC's own Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin will be joining me on a discussion. that not too many are talking about. Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence. We'll go that way right after the break. Stay tuned.
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Washington Watch, happy Friday to you. I hope you're doing well. I hope you've had a fantastic week. I'm Jody Heiss, your Friday host here on Washington Watch. I'm honored to have you joining us as well. All right, there's a lot of buzz taking place right now among Republicans as well as Democrats. Regarding President Trump's nominee for the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, you would certainly expect some opposition coming from the Democrats, although she formerly was a Democrat. There may be some favor towards her, even among Democrats, but certainly among Republicans it seems to be gaining a little problem for her. It all came about specifically following her confirmation hearing yesterday before the Senate Intelligence Committee. And some in the GOP have expressed concern specifically over her hesitation to label infamous hacker and intel leaker Edward Snowden as a traitor. But her political history also seems to be very much at odds with the current administration. So just how serious are the red flags that seem to be popping up? Joining me now to discuss this is retired Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin being told he's not quite ready. We're trying to get him by phone. He's traveling. He's on the road right now. So General Boykin will be joining me hopefully here in just a few moments. While we're waiting for him, let me let me switch over to Joshua Arnold. I've got a couple of questions that I want to run his way. Joshua is. All right, just being told General is back with us. So let me, Joshua, hold on for a moment. I'll come back to you if needed. General Boykin, thanks for joining me.
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Yeah, I'm glad to be with you.
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Always good to be with you as well. Thank you. All right, let's start on the topic of the hearing that took place regarding Snowden. That was a big issue. Let me begin with this exchange between Senator James Lankford and Tulsi Gabbard.
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Was he a traitor at the time when he took America's secrets, released them in public, and then ran to China and became a Russian citizen?
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Senator, I'm focused on the future and how we can prevent something like this from happening again.
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All right, General Boykin, how concerned should we be that she really had no answer regarding Snowden's status as a traitor?
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I think it's a clear signal that we need to be very cautious of her. I see that personally as a disqualifier for her. I was at the CIA meeting. I spent a two-year stint there when Aldrich Ames was found out and arrested. And I've got to tell you, people would admit that they had overlooked things that Aldrich Ames was doing or had said until finally he had caught up with them all, with the agency. And I think we have to use that, I think, as a red flag. that in my case I could not vote for.
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Yeah, and I don't know of anyone who understands intelligence anymore than you. You were right in the tip of the spear of that for years in your career. But when we look at Gabbard in particular, back in 2020, she sponsored a House resolution that called for the federal government to drop all charges against Edward Snowden. So what does that tell us?
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Well, listen, that's a mystery to me as to why she would, as a member of Congress, would ask to pardon him and drop charges against him because this guy may be the all-time biggest spy against America that we have ever endured or heard of in our own ranks. And I think the fact that she wanted to let him off no penalties whatsoever for the number of people that may have actually been killed because of the information that she provided to our enemies, that he provided to our enemies. I think that Snowden should go to court and let a judge and a jury decide whether he's guilty or not, And if he's guilty, he's guilty of murder, too, most likely.
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Yeah, for those who may not remember, this is a guy who leaked literally over a million pages to our enemies, like Russia and China and so forth.
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I mean, it's amazing if that doesn't come under... We need to keep in mind that Russia has a very active... counterintelligence program in America. They have spies all over America, and you don't have to be an Edward Snowden. You give them something that jeopardizes the life of an asset that America has recruited that's working in the country of origin, which in that case would be Russia.
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Yes. Yeah, real quickly, General, and I know our time's running out, but she's also been accused, Gabbard has, of acting as some sort of puppet, if you will, for foreign leaders, including former Syrian dictator al-Assad. She actually met with him back in 2017, I think probably as a move against President Trump. But what are your thoughts on that type of meeting and some of her foreign relations?
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Yeah, you know, Bashar al-Assad was an evil man. And for her to go over there, especially in the first year of Trump's administration, as far as I'm concerned, was just malfeasance, just total malfeasance for her to do that. And, you know, I would go back to you and ask you, aren't there some statutes that prevent members of Congress from getting engaged in making policies? and I would have to speculate that that's what she was doing or trying to. But I think that, again, this woman is not the person to handle this agency of 18 different organizations, eight of which belong to the Department of Defense, and many others belong to the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and other organizations. And for her to go in and take charge of this, I think it would be a big mistake. And I think that Mr. Trump has got to understand. And he made some, listen, I'm all for it, but he made some bad choices his first time around with some of the people that he hired, particularly some of the generals that he hired. And they all wound up being, except for one, they all wound up being a real problem for him.
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General Jerry Boykin, FRC's Executive Vice President, thank you so much for joining us on the road. Your expertise means the world. Thank you for being a part of the program today. All right, friends, coming up, tariffs, tariffs, tariffs. We'll bring it your way right after the break.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I am your Friday host Jody Heiss. We welcome you aboard with us. All right. President Trump is showing really just how serious he is with his America First agenda. And specifically, he's using tariffs as a tool to strengthen U.S. industries and bring jobs back home. His recent standoff with Colombia's government potentially proved his strategy's effectiveness. And now with the implementation of new tariffs on China and Mexico and Canada, that could just go on and on, having a huge stamp on effectiveness for President Trump. And by the way, those tariffs go into effect on Saturday. So to try to break all this down, joining me now is Richard Stern. He's the director of the Center for Federal Budget at the Heritage Foundation. Richard, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thank you for joining us.
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Always a pleasure. Thank you.
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All right. So why does Trump see tariffs to be effective in putting America first when it comes to trade?
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Well, obviously, as you brought out, they've already worked. I mean, famously, between two rounds of golf, he was able to get Columbia to actually take back the terrorist drug runners that they've illegally smuggled here. But, you know, beyond that, one of the important things about tariffs to keep in mind is that oftentimes it's foreign business special interests who have controlled their legislatures, who are the ones that take advantage of these trade deals. And so oftentimes the tariffs he's talking about strike at the heart of businesses abroad that have regulatory capture of their own government. So it's a way, it's a skillful way of going after entrenched powers in those countries to be able to get them to actually follow their agreements, to stop doing nefarious things and to work as good partners with us.
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All right. Do these tariffs actually bring back jobs to the U.S.? There's some who say yes, some say no. Break that down for us. What do tariffs do in terms of jobs here in the U.S.? ?
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So the one thing to be careful of is any time that you raise a revenue to the government and don't use it for something good, it always has a problem because obviously the more money the government has, the more it comes from the private sector. However, if you do what Trump is talking about, which is using tariff revenue to cover the deficits from cutting other taxes, income taxes, small business taxes, et cetera, that's a massively good thing to do. In fact, if you look at numbers even from the Tax Foundation, who have been critical of the tariffs, their numbers would still tell you that if you use those revenues to cut other taxes that would stimulate the US economy, you can get a five or six to one ratio of new dollars of economic creation to dollars lost because of the tariffs directly. So that swap is a very powerful thing for the US economy.
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Yeah, absolutely. In fact, in our country's history way back, tariffs virtually eliminated taxes. So that's a powerful point. All right, what about supporters of these policies say that tariffs are necessary to correct decades, literally, of unfair trade deals. Can you kind of break that down for us? What kind of unfair trade deals and how do tariffs correct that?
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Well, so what I'd say is there's all this detail about trade deals, deals with violating patent law, labor standards, things like that, opening up markets. Those are things where these countries have taken advantage of us, where they'll close their markets off to our manufacturers or just copy our products, violate our patents. So you can use tariffs, obviously, trying to negotiate to get wins there, to open up their markets, to get them to follow our IP and patent law. But there's one other major issue. And so one of the problems is that the way that foreign governments tax systems work and the way that our tax system works is it actually subsidizes foreign production coming into the United States and actually double taxes, in many cases, U.S. production. Now, we could fix that by changing our tax system. But it's a problem of the combination of the two. So tariffs is a very broad term, but the best way to do it is something called a border-adjusted tax system. It's where you exclude your exports from taxation and bring all imports under the tax base. Doing that would appreciate the value of the dollar, it strengthens American's position, and it gets rid of that imbalance where we don't tax imports coming in, but do tax and double tax our production and certainly our production that gets exported. So using that kind of a tariff-like mechanism corrects that problem.
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Wow. Very well said and explainable for those of us who don't grasp the big picture of all of these. So what about the risks? Are there potential risks in these aggressive tariffs?
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There certainly can be risks, but I guess the question really is, are there risks in letting policies stand? So Canada and Mexico have frankly been working to help the Chinese to flood fentanyl to the country. Mexico has famously done almost nothing to help us secure the border. They've actually encouraged those illegal incursions to the U.S. Canada has also been complicit in violations of our border. So the question is, Of course there are risks in negotiating in this kind of way, but what are the risks in doing nothing? What are the risks in continuing to allow them to work with the Chinese to violate our sovereignty and to flood illegal aliens and terrorists and drugs into our country? So I think those are the things that Trump is looking at when he's making this tradeoff calculation.
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Yeah, great thing. I mean, the risk is greater for doing nothing. I mean, bottom line, what you're saying. And you think real quickly, we've got only about 30 seconds here real quickly, but do you think this is going to have an impact globally in putting America's economy first?
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Oh, absolutely. You know, truth be told, the premier of Alberta has already been working with the Trump administration. And in fact, the tariffs are going to come into place are going to be a little much later on Alberta because of it. So it shows you right there. This is a way of putting America back front and center and getting these countries the play ball.
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Richard Stern, Director of the Center for Federal Budget at the Heritage Foundation. Thank you so much. Excellent discussion. We appreciate your input. All right, friends, coming up next, we're going to have our Biblical Worldview segment, but I also want to encourage you, if you don't have yet the Stand Firm app and our 100-day toolkit, get it. Toolkit. Text to 67742. We'll be right back.
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As President-elect Donald Trump's second inauguration approached, a powerful prayer gathering took place in Washington, D.C., drawing Christians together to intercede for our nation.
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The church does not recapture its prophetic zeal. It will become an irrelevant social club without moral or spiritual authority. God help us to recapture that prophetic zeal.
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This is not an inter-religious service. We will not be praying to Allah or Buddha. We'll be praying to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We're talking to God, a holy, righteous, just God from a nation that desperately needs the touch of this God.
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Well-versed and Family Research Council led the inauguration praise and prayer convocation, urging attendees to pray for the incoming presidential administration and for the church to embody holiness and righteousness, champion biblical justice, and proclaim truth prophetically.
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Lord, may this not be the end, but may this be the beginning, this convocation, this gathering. And may we commit to pray and to seek you and to walk in your word and in your ways. In Jesus' name, amen. Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Council here in Washington, D.C. Behind me is one of the most recognizable buildings in all the world, the U.S. Capitol. What does it stand for? Well, most people say government. But do you know the Bible talks about four institutions of government? Do you know what they are? And do we have a republic or a democracy? Well, what do you say? Also, what about this saying separation of church and state? Does that mean Christians shouldn't be involved in government? Guess what? We address those issues and more in our new God and Government course. I invite you to join us to see what the historical record and the Bible has to say about government. Join us for God and Government.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your Friday host, Jody Heist. So glad, so glad to have you with us. And listen, before I get to my next guest, I just want to say it again, because this is important. It's an important app. It's important for all of us to be in this together. And I'm referring to the first 100 days of the Trump administration. And we have a special toolkit. A special toolkit. It's called the First 100 Days Toolkit. Easy to remember. It's available exclusively on FRC's Stand Firm app. And so we encourage you to get this toolkit, get the app yourself. Look, this is going to cover all sorts of things. Tremendous tools. It's going to help you. Help you find your member of Congress when you need them. Support key legislation. And there's so much legislation coming and going. You need to know what are the issues coming and going that you can stay on top of. You'll be able to get insights on the nominees that are going before these hearings that some were talking about even today. You'll learn how to pray more effectively. There's just so much, so much on here. and new to this toolkit is the trump commitment tracker it's going to monitor for you many of the commitments that were made by the trump campaign during the 2024 election and you'll be able to check them off in fact we're checking them all for you so you can see how that's coming so all of this is yours and it's easy to get Simply text the word toolkit, that's one word, text toolkit to 67742 and it's all right there in your grasp. So I want to be sure to encourage you to do that. All right. It has been yet another busy, busy week here in Washington, D.C., and frankly, I don't see any signs of that slowing down in the near future. We've had a tragic midair collision near D.C.' 's Reagan Airport. That even added more to the mix, as you can well imagine. But with so much going on, it can be easy. for us to miss something or to not catch the significance of certain developments. Just the executive orders and the actions of President Trump alone can leave your head spinning as they're happening at so rapidly a pace. So joining me now to recap some of what we saw this week and more importantly, How we can look at some of these things through the lens of Scripture is David Claussen. He's the director here at the Center for Biblical Worldview at Family Research Council. David, always great to have you here on Fridays to put a biblical perspective of it all. Good to see you.
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Hey, great to be with you again, Jody.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Well, when we were together last Friday, we were still waiting at that point on news regarding the Mexico City policy. So it's kind of happened. So tell us what President Trump decided to do with this policy and why the Mexico City policy is important.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, President Trump promised in the lead up to the inauguration that it would be kind of shock and awe, Jody, as far as dozens and actually hundreds of actions taken in the first couple of weeks. And for those of us who are social conservatives, you know, the issues of life and family and religious freedom, those are paramount. Those are issues, of course, that we think that there's clear biblical principles. There's a thus saith the Lord principle. And it took a couple days to get to some of these, so we've been tracking it. Obviously, you mentioned in your lead-in, Jody, that you can, folks can go on the Stand Firm app and actually track the commitments and how the Trump administration is doing. But since we've last spoken, Jody, President Trump once again reinstated the Mexico City policy and this ought to be commended by every Christian in America because what the Mexico City and like he did in 2017 it's not just the you know Mexico City policy this is a provision that says that America's foreign aid dollars will not go to fund organizations or programs that either perform or promote abortion Ronald Reagan was the first president to put this policy in place Subsequent Democrat presidents repealed it, and then Republican presidents put it back in place. Trump in 2017 expanded it to cover even more dollars. And what he did this time around covered, it was once again expansive. 2017, this covered $8.8 billion of funds. So this is a win, Jody. This means that billions of taxpayer dollars that are exported overseas will not go to promote or fund abortion. We ought to be grateful for that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, that's huge. So grateful is the word. In fact, I'm glad you reminded us, David, that Trump himself told us that the first few weeks were going to be shock and awe. What a perfect description of what it's been. And it reminded me, I don't think we put shock and awe on the commitment tracker. But that is a promise. He promised there would be shock and awe. So we may need to go in and add that. We'll just go ahead and check that one off for you. But in addition to the incredible progress of reinstating the Mexico City policy, as you just described, I mean, the U.S. now has also reentered the Geneva Consensus Declaration, which we talked a little bit before. But so let's go back on that. What is this Geneva Consensus Declaration and why is that one so important as well?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, in short, Jodi, the Geneva Consensus Declaration, this was spearheaded under the first Trump administration. My friend Valerie Huber was kind of the architect of this, working with Mike Pompeo, again, in the first Trump administration. Simply, this is a declaration that now 35 nations have joined to promote women's health really around the world. But it particularly contains a clause that states that there is no international right to an abortion. Jody, you know, with the United Nations and all these multi-nation agreements and pacts, they're always trying to promote divisive social policies and, you know, more developed nations trying to impose this on developing nations. And this was significant in the first Trump administration because it made it clear to the world that America does not believe that there's a so-called right to an abortion, a right to kill your unborn child. Of course, the Biden administration, this was to be expected, repealed, made the United States withdraw from this declaration when they took office four years ago. But it shows that one of Marco Rubio's first acts of Secretary of State was to formally put his name behind it and say the United States is once again joining this declaration which again signals i think to the world the united states is back in a powerful way for the unborn we're not going to force abortion on developing nations that look to the united states for foreign assistance we're not going to it's really a cultural imperialism that the biden administration of course the obama administration forced on the world the united states is done doing that and again i think this sends a strong signal to the rest of the world, particularly developing nations that have a Catholic or an evangelical population, this is good news.
SPEAKER 17 :
It really is. And that's not the only news on the abortion issue. I think it was Wednesday that the Pentagon rescinded the Biden era policies that facilitated abortion among members of the military. In fact, this is something policy that we hear FRC covered extensively when former Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin put it into place. So bring us up to speed on that issue. That's another big one for life.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely, Jody. And just just briefly, you know, after Roe v. Wade was overturned, the Biden administration said that they were going to do anything and everything they could to still promote abortion. And one of the things that they did was put a policy in place at the Department of Defense that said that service. men and women, so service women, could access abortion. Now, of course, service people, you know, they don't decide where they're stationed, so the logic of the DoD policy was that if you're sent to a base in a conservative state that makes it hard to get an abortion, you could request a leave, paid leave, And you could have your travel expenses reimbursed. So if you want to go get an abortion in a liberal state, you could do that and then submit your receipts to the Department of Defense and they would reimburse you. Clear violation of the Hyde Amendment. This led to Tommy Tuberville putting a hold on hundreds of promotions. So this was a huge, blatant, unconstitutional move by the Biden administration. Pete Hegseth, the new Secretary of Defense, he promised us that he was going to return the department to why the department exists, to lethality, to making sure that we can fight and win the nation's wars. We're not going to engage in social experimentation, things like that. policy being rescinded means once again unborn children will be have more protections and it tells us that the Defense Department under Secretary Hegseth's leadership is serious about rooting out some of the mess that we saw during the Biden administration.
SPEAKER 17 :
They're rooting out the mess and reinstating the purpose of the military. Just keep focused on what our job is to do. If I can shift gears on you, David, President Trump made news on Monday by signing the first of its kind, an order related to protecting minor children from transgender procedures. Tell us about that one. That's another big, huge win.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it really is. And Jodi, you know, this is the worldview segment. We like to end the show at Washington Watch at the end of the week, thinking about all these issues through a biblical worldview. You know, the biblical worldview could not be more clear about our embodiment as male and female. And one of the things that we've seen over the last several years with these revolutionary gender ideologs is pushing puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, irreversible surgeries on minor children. FRC's been involved with this on the state level with the SAFE Act, which we've now seen in a couple dozen states. But what the president did is he put out this executive order. The title is Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation. And I just love that, Jody, because the president is calling it for what it is. This is not so-called gender-affirming care, the phrase, the euphemism that the left uses. This is not gender-affirming care. This is chemical and surgical mutilation. And what a refreshing... A breath of fresh air it is that the administration is actually using language, not hiding behind euphemisms, calling these things out for what they are. And there's teeth behind it, Jody. The executive order goes on to say that any institution that receives government research grants, which is a lot of state-level universities around the country, any institution that receives research grants from the federal government must immediately desist from engaging in these types of surgeries. It even went out of the way, Jodi, to talk about the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, WPATH. That says that WPATH, which again, the federal government under the Biden administration had relied on for guidance. It says WPATH has just been promoting junk science and that the federal government will no longer look to this activist organization for any meaningful guidance when it comes to health. And so again, this is a big win. Policy matters. Worldview matters. And this is just a great example that I think Christians around this country should be grateful. Common sense has returned to the Oval Office.
SPEAKER 17 :
And common sense is rooted in transcendent truth, as we talked about around the table at FRC this week. It's rooted in biblical reality. That's where common sense comes from. I don't know if you saw this. This is literally hot off the press. Right before we came on the program, we had yet another executive order signed. I don't know if you were made aware of this right before we came on or not, but the new executive order for federal employees to remove pronouns from email signatures. Yet another step towards doing away with all this DEI stuff that's just been taken over. Before we go, our time's clicking away, so I want to keep running here. As quickly as we can, David. But we've been talking, in fact, on the show today about probably three of the most controversial picks for various roles in Trump's administration. I was speaking earlier right before you with General Boykin about Tulsi Gabbard. Of course, she's the nominee for the director of national intelligence. But there's so much that can be said about her. That mostly is not being dealt with. So do you have anything you can add to us about maybe her voting record while she was a congresswoman or whatever? Have you been following Tulsi Gabbard?
SPEAKER 12 :
I did, Jodi, and I was told we were going to briefly look at her career, so I actually just simply pulled up the FRC scorecard. So, you know, one of the ways the Family Research Council holds members of Congress accountable is that we will score votes that they take, and we will take a position. And if you vote with us, give it a thumbs up. If you vote against us, you know, thumbs down. Tulsi Gabbard, this is interesting, I did not know this, has a 2% lifetime voting record when it comes to the Family Research Council. which needless to say, Jodi, that's not good. And of course, we are a pro-life, pro-family organization. Those are the types of votes that we're scoring. I'm sure we could have a debate on what kind of effect that would have on your ability to be in the position that she's been appointed for. But it does speak to your worldview. This is someone, again, Jodi and I have the voting record in front of me. This is someone who voted against The Born Alive Survivor Protection Act. This is someone who's voted against the Pain Capable Act. So just votes I know you took as a member of Congress of various protections for life. She voted against a piece of legislation that would have codified this idea that you can't give tax dollars forward for abortion. This is someone who voted against a piece of legislation that would have disapproved of the transgender military policy. That would probably have been under the Obama administration. So this is not someone that has historically been a friend to social conservatives, and I think it's okay to acknowledge that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and you mentioned worldview in all of that. That is stunning, 2% scorecard for their first seat. That is pretty eye-opening. But there's also reports of Tulsi Gabbard's ties to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. And I mean, is she a Hindu? Certainly Modi in India is Hindu. Does she have a particular faith that she claims?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, she's the first Hindu to serve in Congress, Jodi, and I think I would just, I know we're running out of time, so I would advise folks to go to the Christian Post. They have a really interesting article by a Christian pastor who was detained in India, and he talks about Tulsi Gabbard's ties to Hindu nationalism. I think that's interesting. I think it's worth making sure that's part of the national conversation because, of course, worldview matters.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, worldview matters, and people can be of whatever faith they are. If they're elected, they're elected, and that's fine. But worldview matters, and I'll say that one more time where people can see that article.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you can go to thechristianpost.com, and there's, again, a pastor who has a really eye-opening article that I think is worth reading as we watch the confirmation hearings.
SPEAKER 17 :
David Claussen from the Center for Biblical Worldview here at FRC. Always great to have you on Fridays. Have a wonderful weekend. Thanks for joining us. All right, friends, that wraps up another week. Hope you likewise have a wonderful weekend and we'll see you next week right here on Washington Watch.
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SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome to the Friday, January 31st. Where did January go? It will be gone. We'll start February tomorrow. And we're expected to hear from Donald Trump at some point on those tariffs that he's been warning about. In the meantime, we have the Dow right now is up just 18 points. After the inflation numbers come in line, the NASDAQ, on the other hand, is off to a very good start. I've got to believe it's mostly Apple and a little bit of Intel. The NASDAQ's up 243 right now. That's 1.2%. The S&P 500 is up 36 points. That's 60 basis points. The Russell 2000 is down a little bit, the small cap stocks. The 10-year is down, oh, about a basis point here at 4.50. It did get to under 4.50 for the first time in a long time yesterday. And of note, gold is hitting a new all-time high today on those tariff worries. I noticed that breakout in gold yesterday in a lot of gold stocks. And we've got a new all-time high on gold at $2,856 per ounce. So welcome to today's Best Docs Now show with Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I am the president of the nationwide fee-based only money management firm, and I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we had a pretty good day yesterday, Barry. One thing I noticed, you know, if I go underneath the surface of the market, I said at the end of the day the momentum was back in the market. And, you know, when I say that, I see the buoyancy spreading to the hot areas, the hot money of the market, right? And right now I would call that, The nuclear stocks, the Oklos of the world, the SMRs of the world, a lot of the smaller companies, they had very vibrant days yesterday. So, you know, the animal spirits are coming back in. I suppose we dodged a bullet with Chairman Powell on Wednesday not being too tough on us, and the market kind of celebrated that on Wednesday. and a very good day in the market yesterday. A lot of momentum. ServiceNow was a big down stock. That was one of our holdings. Microsoft, also a loser on Thursday, one of our holdings. But Tesla, Meta, the nuke sector, nuclear had a really good day yesterday.
SPEAKER 05 :
And Tesla's following it up again today at 4% already.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so much for that Monday deep-seek sell-off. thinking that we can run these data centers without as much energy now. That seems to be a thesis that was built in the market very quickly, and it was also a thesis that appears to be wrong, as money has come gushing back into Vistra, Constellation Energy, Oklo,
SPEAKER 05 :
And we've got Jensen talking about the beginning of the week and how we're ending the week. We're going to end the week with Jensen, the CEO of NVIDIA, meeting with Trump, I believe, today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he's meeting face-to-face with Trump today, so that will be very interesting, what comes from that meeting. Well, we started off today, the preferred inflation gauge of the Fed, the PCE, came in as expected, okay? Yeah. So nothing surprising there. You know, inflation seems to be at least kind of under control, but not under control enough for the Fed to be signaling any price cuts or any rate cuts in the near future. And in addition to that, you know, Trump has signaled that February 1st would be the day that he would impose tariffs on Canada and Mexico and maybe China. And I think the market is a little bit nervous, obviously, about that, especially on companies that do a lot of business over there, overseas. He's also warning the BRICS today, 100% tariffs on BRICS nations, which would be Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. and several other companies in Europe, mostly like Spain, Italy, if they try to replace the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency ahead of his decision to impose 25% duties on Canadian and Mexican goods this weekend. And we'll see if he follows through on that. Of course, Mexico and Canada have an opportunity to step up to the plate and give him whatever he wants to avoid the tariffs.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and Colombia folded pretty quickly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, but in the meantime, as far as we know, avocado prices, which mostly come from Mexico, and European cheeses and wines, French wines, etc., No, Canadian goods. 25% tariffs are expected this weekend. BRICS is 10 countries, actually, now. Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, United Arab Emirates, and Indonesia. And, of course, they want to remove the dollar as the world's currency. and replace it with a currency of their own, and they're being threatened with 100% tariffs from Trump. Well, you know, we'll see what Jensen Wang has to say after his meeting with Trump today. Wang, you know, is a little bit, you know, his hands are tied a little bit as far as going to China. I don't see any loosening on that policy. But I think that, you know, Trump will kind of signal his intentions with AI. He seems to be much more, you know, less worried about AI than Biden was. Biden had, you know, some strict regulations on it all, which Trump removed. So we'll see how that meeting goes. NVIDIA, in the meantime, did perk up a little bit yesterday. Let's see how it's trading today. It can only help Wang to have Trump on his side. NVIDIA's trading pretty well today. It came down to that 120 support line, and it's back up to 125 today. You know, another story involving NVIDIA. Is the U.S. going to probe if DeepSeek bought advanced NVIDIA chips from Singapore? I saw that today. Look how Singapore could tariffs be coming. But many people, I've seen comments that DeepSeek had to have a lot more of NVIDIA chips than they were letting on to. And that begs the question, where did they get those chips? So anyways, well, you've got the FBI involved in that DeepSeek startup. I've got to believe there would be some problems for DeepSeek.
SPEAKER 05 :
And at the same time, I would have to believe that Deep Seek was prepared, right, for some of this scrutiny, I would imagine. So whether it was some miraculous new method or if there was some misuse of something involved, whether it's chips, I mean, there's a lot of different... aspects where you can have some infringement, whether it's just data, right, chip-wise. There's a lot to this story, I believe, that no one knows, and who knows how much we'll ever know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the lights are being turned on, DeepSeek. NVIDIA says that they don't believe that DeepSeek did violate U.S. restrictions.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that could be a – that's probably – there's certainly probably some political correctness in there. I mean, he was just – didn't he just visit – I believe Wang just visited China. And so you're kind of – he's almost in that Elon space, right, where you're in between – some of your business certainly depends on China, but you want to kind of talk it back the other way. It's certainly an interesting dynamic. It's been an interesting week.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, and Trump's Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, he thinks that they did somehow evade U.S. export controls to buy tons of NVIDIA chips. Okay, so we'll see where the truth is, but it sounds like we're going to get to the truth. Another meeting that they want to happen, the parents of Sam Bankman Freed want to meet with Trump. They're seeking a pardon. I don't see that happening, Barry. I don't really see that happening. I think that Franklin Freed was using some of that absconded money to fund Democratic campaigns. A lot of interruptions in the world today. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. You know, I really like the way that Lilly has been trading recently. Now, I remember when RFK Jr. was nominated to be the HHS secretary, which I don't know. Have you heard any update on when they're going to vote on that? I watched some of the testimony, which was good TV, that's for sure. But I'm not sure, are they ready to vote on that today? We'll see if he becomes the guy. But I do remember that, you know, Market really feared him on the weight loss drugs. Well, guess what? RFK Jr. hails GLP-1 weight loss meds as miracle drugs, which I've been saying now for over a year. It's a miracle. It's a miracle. These are miracle drugs. Think of all the weight loss programs that have come along over the years and all the counting of calories and all the frozen meals that limit calories and all the different sweating it out on an exercise cycle and a bike or a treadmill, etc., etc., etc., etc., And, you know, a shot in your stomach, a very simple shot in your stomach once a week, it works. You know, I've seen it with many people. They claim that they've lost weight when they've never been able to lose weight before. And as the health and human service secretary, I still say that the number one health problem that we have in America is not hunger. No, it's the opposite of hunger. It's obesity. And from that comes diabetes, comes heart trouble, comes all kinds of issues. And I just can't see how it's not a miracle drug when, you know, a year's time you could lose 20 to 25%.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it can translate into cost savings, right, for the government, for Medicare, for Medicaid, for health plans, health insurers out there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, he used the term miracle drugs, which is pretty incredible. And, I mean, like I say, when you look at the cost, the health care costs that have been soaring, And his comments that, you know, America's sicker than it's ever been, how much of that is tied to obesity? I mean, all you've got to do is sit in a waiting room, right, at the doctor's office when people that are having issues and whatnot look around the room. There's a lot of sick people in America today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, I mean, on Tuesday you had a new study came out. I guess the FDA approved Ozempic for kidney disease, right, which, I mean, that's not what it was initially intended for, but it helps with that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I have a friend who's a former biotech CEO. He retired maybe a couple of years ago, but he was the CEO of a publicly traded biotech company. And he kind of told me, tipped me off. He says, hey, you know what? This is going to be one of the biggest drugs of all time. It's a miracle drug. So my hat is off to him. I listened to him. I made Lilly one of our largest physicians. And I'm a big believer, a big, big believer in this GLP-1 phase. I mean, you know, it's even at the Academy Awards. What do they call it? Ozempic face? The Wagovi. Wagovi. Everybody's got a Wagovi face and all this and that. But it works. Okay, I mentioned the gold settling at a record high yesterday. Gold has kind of been stuck in that $2,700 area for a long, long time. And I think... As I look at charts on a daily basis and I look underneath the surface of the market, I saw all the gold stocks. I saw Newmont Mining breaking out all of a sudden. But more importantly, I saw the commodity that drives the bus breaking out to an all-time high. I don't know if they're still selling gold coins at Costco, but they raise their hourly pay to $30 an hour, Barry. It makes me almost want to go there and get a job in the bakery. I can bake the loaf of bread if I have to.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what that's going to mean? Pretty soon we'll have a $5 or $10 increase on the membership side.
SPEAKER 08 :
If they keep that hot dog at $1.50. But they do a good job.
SPEAKER 05 :
For $30 an hour, I will say they don't ride the clock there. They're doing work. At least at our Costco, that place is always busy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the changes apply to Costco employees at non-union locations, but $30 an hour. So you know what? I've heard from a lot of people it's a great place to work. In fact, I have another friend that manages the Costco in West Ashley.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we've got a couple of clients. Yeah, we've got a couple of clients that have had careers there sometimes.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they love working there. They've made nothing but money in the stock, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
SPEAKER 05 :
They like working there as much as we like shopping there. Put it that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Okay. Well, I tweeted out this morning that we would be talking about Apple and their five-year target price. Apple today... did okay with their earnings, and that has something to do here with the rise in the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 today. But analysts show mixed reactions among the iPhone and China woes, okay? What do they mean by China woes? Well, Huawei. Huawei is their China woe. Now, I remember going into a Best Buy, maybe a couple years ago, and seeing Huawei phones on sale there. And we eventually banned Huawei phones from the U.S. because of all of the spyware that was supposedly in them, and the chips that gathered information and surveillance and whatnot. But Huawei is going strong in China. and they have become the biggest phone maker in China now, biggest seller of phones. They have surpassed Apple, and that's a big, put the big squeeze in the herd on Apple, losing that big market in China. Now, not that they don't still sell a lot of phones in China, but Huawei has taken a big, big chunk, out of their market share in China. And of course, the same thing is happening to Elon Musk.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm pretty sure they sold less phones in the last year in China than they did the year before. We're all used to, for most companies out there, over the last 25, 30 years, China's been a growth place for companies. In Apple's sense, at least in regards to the iPhone, that's no longer the case.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Apple is up just 1.3% now. It's kind of given up a lot of those early gains. But when we come back, I'm going to open the hood on Apple just like we did on Tesla yesterday. We found that Tesla is a very expensive stock that needs to really deliver. Where does Apple sit right now from a valuation point of view? How much upside is there that when we get back, it's the Best Thoughts Now show? This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services... Call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 04 :
We got to get together sooner or later.
SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. So as promised, we're going to peek under the hood of Apple. And, you know, my worry, we talk about all the time the evolution or the, you know, the sequence of events that companies go through. They start off as a startup, an idea, and then a startup, and then maybe they make it go public. Maybe at some point in time they're an emerging growth company. I remember when Amazon went public, you know, 25 years ago. In fact, I put a picture in my newsletter about a month ago of Jeff Bezos standing there at the NASDAQ the day that Amazon went public. And, of course, the lifespan of the company. Amazon is no longer a startup. It's no longer an IPO wannabe. It became an IPO, I think, at about a dollar a share many years ago, probably about 50 cents now with all the splits. Went through some tough times as a publicly traded company. And then all of a sudden it became an emerging growth stock. started to hit its stride it became an ultra growth stock in my opinion and eventually it became a large cap growth stock which it is today and it occupies one of the slots in our uh in our premier growth portfolio it does not pay a dividend however which usually comes a little bit later in life eventually it will get to that point apple got to that point a few years ago As the growth started to slow down, it started to offer investors a small dividend. And, you know, I would say that Apple is further down the road than Amazon is. There's no question about it. Amazon is still kind of in a very high growth phase. Apple is not in that high growth phase anymore. And for that reason, It doesn't really meet my criteria these days. As you look at this quarter that they just had, their sales were only up 4% year over year. That's not the double-digit growth that, you know, great growth stocks are made of. Apple has surrendered that double-digit growth, and their earnings were only up 10% year over year, which is not the 15%, 20%, you know, that kind of stamps you as a superior growth stock. Apple does not have the kind of growth that it used to have unless it can innovate, unless it can come up with something that will spur that growth again. Going forward, I'm using a 10% growth rate, and I think that's pretty generous. It's a 10% grower at best. And if you look at this most recent quarter, that's exactly where they came in, 10% year over year. So my fear is it's becoming a market performer. And, you know, we're seeking alpha, okay? We're seeking returns better than the S&P 500. That's the definition of alpha. And I find it hard to make a case that Unless something new comes along from CEO Cook, that can help make a case for that. And, you know, so I kind of see a market performer. And as I look at the results of Apple, that's what I'm kind of seeing recently. Over the last 12 months, Apple's up 24.5%. The S&P's up 23%. Okay, so there's no alpha really there. And as I look over the last three years, this is even more telling, Barry. Apple has returned 12.3% per year total return, and the S&P is 12.4%. And that backs the analysis that I'm making that I think has become a market performance.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and they've created themselves an ecosystem where you've got certainly a steady earnings income stream in terms of having that continuous refresh in terms of the phone. A lot of us trapped inside of their ecosystem in terms of whether it's iTunes or iCloud or what have you, particularly on the phone side. But you've got to have that... next kind of innovation piece and you know we just it's hard to envision where it's going to come from remember at one point it was going to be a you know a car uh other point you know you've got the uh you know headset or glasses ai you know vr right and then they've been you know we from an ai standpoint or at least story-wise they've kind of been behind the eight ball on that so
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. And, you know, so looking backwards, they have been a market performer for the last three years. And looking forward, when I look at their earnings today and extrapolate them out at 10% growth over the next five years and apply a multiple to that, I come up with 56% upside potential. That's very subpar. That's a D minus. I like 80% or more upside potential. And so they fall well short of my evaluation criteria. The stock doesn't have a lot of momentum, and the chart is not very good. So anyways, that's where I stand on Apple. I know a lot of people are sitting on their Apple. They have big gains on Apple. They don't want to sell their Apple. But I just think, at best, it's a market performer, unless they come up with a big reason once a year to trade in the old one for the new one because of something new that you've just got to have. And I just haven't seen that from Apple in a long time. So that's where we stand on Apple, very neutral. You know, if the name of your show is Best Stock Now, The name of your newsletter is Best Stocks Now, and your portfolios are Best Stocks Now. Apple just doesn't fit the bill at this point in its life. Now, Intel is way past its prime. It's even further down the road in its sequence as a publicly traded company. They did beat their Q4 estimates. The stock is, let's see, last time I looked it was up a little bit. Let's see, Intel right now is, no, it's down 1.2%. It's at or near a new low at $19.77. It's been disgraced, really. The CEO is gone, Gelsinger. It's been kicked out of the Dow. I don't know that it ever paid a dividend. Maybe it did. But if they did, they don't have a dividend yield anymore. And the performance of the stock has been horrible. And, you know, I think Gelsinger summed it all up when he made the announcement that he wanted America to fast and pray for the employees at Apple. You know, I've never heard a CEO do that before.
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Or an Intel. No, an Intel. Yeah, an Intel.
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I mean, an Intel. I go, what in the world? Is it in that bad a shape? Well, look at... He must have known.
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Yeah, he must have known, huh?
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Over the last 10 years, you've held this stock for 10 years, you've lost 2.7% per year or Over the last five years, you've lost 19.3% per year. Over the last five years. Well, the market's delivered 17%. Over the last three years, you've lost 23%. But, you know, a lot of that's happened in recent years, which, you know, spreads out to those three, five, ten-year returns. Here's the real whammy. Over the last 12 months, the stock is down 53.7%. Now, you'll notice that it's Jensen Wang meeting with Trump today in the White House. It's not Patrick Gelsinger and other CEOs that have been at the helm along this 10-year descent of Intel. And yet, you know what? Still a very highly owned stock, widely owned, very widely owned. Maybe not as much anymore, but it used to be one of those ones that you could almost guarantee that it would be in a portfolio coming from one of the big Wall Street firms. Well, now maybe it's a turnaround play at some point in time, like GE was. They've got to find somebody, and I know that they're still looking for a CEO. Maybe they can poach somebody from NVIDIA or AMD, Barry, and get that thing turned around. Okay, now when we come back, as you know, we always talk about our losers. And we have one that has been one of the greatest stocks we've ever found. It continues to meet all of my criteria. I even bought some more yesterday for our new client. And the stock is down 15% today, despite a very good report, very good guidance. But when you've got companies that have done what this stock has done, the expectations are very high, and I guess the report just wasn't quite good enough. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show.
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Well, we consider one of the best stocks that I've ever found has been Decker's Outdoor, which is headquartered in Goleta, California. And Decker's began with UGG and Sheepskin Boots. They came along with Teva Sandals, some other products. But lately, it's been Hoka Hoka Hoka. I'm a guy, I fly in an airplane, I look at people's shoes, Barry, and not that I have a shoe fetish or anything, but I see a lot of hokas.
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That's where we got the boots on the ground reference.
SPEAKER 08 :
Men are wearing hokas. They're not wearing Nikes anymore, right?
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Boots on the ground.
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I wear hokas, okay? And Nike is a mature stock that pays a dividend that has entered kind of into Apple territory. It's ahead of Apple probably by a couple of years. as far as being a dead stock or a market performer, not even a market performer, but Decker's continues. It's the number 26 ranked stock in my app as of yesterday. And here's why. Over the last 10 years, while Intel's been going down by 3% a year, Decker's has averaged 32% per year, which puts it in the upper 10%. 1% of all the stocks out there. But wait, it gets better. They have picked up, their performance has even picked up more since they introduced HOKA to the world a few years ago. Over the last five years, Decker's has averaged 50% per year, while the market's averaged 17%. Now that's alpha. Three times the market performance. And over the last three years, Decker's has averaged 64% returns versus 12% for the S&P 500. And over the last 12 months, it's up 73% while the market's up 23%. So as you might figure, the expectations are extraordinarily high for this company when they report earnings. And I knew they were going to report earnings yesterday. That didn't make any difference to me because over the years, I've seen them knock the ball out of the park many times with their earnings. And I thought they actually had a pretty good earnings report. I didn't see anything wrong with it.
SPEAKER 05 :
They had record-breaking Q3 performance with revenue growth of 17% year over year. Yeah. And gross margins improved to over 60%. So I bet you Nike would love those numbers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. But I guess where the problem is is they – Forward growth that they put out there was, I think, 15% or something like that. And the street, there's such a thing as a whisper number. Okay, there's the consensus out there that is the printed number, but there's expectations underneath the surface in the analyst community. It's called the whisper number that they're hoping for. They're hoping that Decker's had sandbagged them and was going to give even higher guidance than they gave. Well, it wasn't good enough.
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Notice the old earnings game.
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Yes. So the stock today is down 16%. Now, I did add to our position yesterday. I mean, we have huge gains in this stock. But if you got in on the buy yesterday, you're going, ah, this is a bad stock. Well, I can just tell you that over the years, Decker's has thrown in a few clunkers here and there. I don't consider this to be a clunker. I consider this to be an overreaction by an overly optimistic analyst community and investors community. And the hot money is leaving Decker's today. The stock was breaking out to new highs yesterday. So, you know what, I will factor in the new numbers. As of yesterday, I had 89% upside potential over the next five years in Decker's, which meets my criteria. The stock was gaining momentum. The stock was hitting new all-time highs, and it had a great chart. But it is down 16% today.
SPEAKER 05 :
By the way, part of those forward guidance includes some currency headwinds, right? Currency headwinds tend to not persist for an extended period of time. So part of that is the fact that they're doing some business overseas. And then, of course, when that currency comes back, translates back to the U.S., As the U.S. dollar strengthened, right, that currency translation coming back doesn't buy as many dollars.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. So I'm not real worried about it. I'm disappointed by the market's reaction here today, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I think it will be back to its be hitting new highs eventually. I don't know when, but I think it will be. Well, we have had a huge week. This has been a monster week of earnings. And, you know, as of last week, the expectations for this quarter, 12.7% growth versus the comparable quarter last year. We'll see if the needle moved at all for the quarter. For 2024, we're still waiting for those final numbers when this earnings season ends. We'll see if those numbers moved at all. We'll see if the 2025 numbers have moved at all, which obviously we're now currently in, one month into this new year. And we'll see if next year's 2026 earnings numbers moved at all. That is the number one indicator for the market. It's not any technical averages. It's technical, you know, different technical tools and whatnot. It's earnings, earnings, earnings. That's what drives the market. So I will be updating my market macro outlook going forward. The market is not cheap. I agree with Chairman Powell. And I will be updating my target prices on the market. We did quite a bit of buying this past week. That will also show up in the newsletter tomorrow. And we're still offering the four-week trial today. to follow and get all of the alerts that I send out during the day. I've been pretty busy this past week. A lot of alerts went out this past week. Go to GundersenCapital.com for a four-week trial of that service. And if you say, well, I don't have time to be watching the market during the day like you do, Gundersen, we're going to interview you and your team and see what we think about managing our money and moving our assets from where we're at now because we're in a bunch of soggy stocks like the ones you mention all the time on your show. Set up an appointment at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day and have a great weekend, everybody.
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Join us as we examine President Trump's action-packed first week in office, featuring 34 monumental policies and decisions. We discuss the impactful changes and controversies surrounding his administration, including immigration reforms and birthright citizenship debates. Meanwhile, Selena Gomez's emotional response to deportation sparks a conversation on compassion and performance, highlighting societal divides. Finally, J.D. Vance's master class on illegal immigration policy offers sharp insights into the evolving political landscape.
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Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. It's Friday, January 31st, 2025. I'm Eric Hansen. This week, Trump considers ditching income tax, Vance suggests dumping our old immigration policies, and the CIA drops a confirmation we already knew. First, we turn to Washington, D.C., the scene of a tragic midair collision at the Reagan Airport.
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This kind of a disaster is something that will leave a scar in our collective consciousness for a long time. Heartbreaking stories of U.S. and Russian figure skaters who were on board the American Airlines Flight 5342. A video that I will not play of a poor young husband anxiously awaiting word about his wife who was texting him from that plane minutes before the collision. And he was praying that they would rescue her from the frigid waters of the Potomac. I don't like to exploit people's misery. I don't want to try to capitalize on a moment in time And I've told my team no video on Salem News Channel during my talk show that shows that impact. Because that's the moment that 67 souls perished. Let's take you to Washington, D.C., the incoming administration already facing some wretched, ghoulish criticism. How anybody could try to blame Trump for this? is just one more indicator of how sick and twisted and deranged the Trump haters have become. I don't even like to give them any oxygen or any attention, but they're out there. People blaming Trump. People blaming Pete Hegseth, the new defense secretary. People blaming the new transportation secretary, Sean Duffy. It's almost... impossible to believe that people could sink that low. And I hope that every single one of them are shamed and shunned. I mean, they obviously should be ignored, but if they work in a media profession, like the goofy journalist from Nashville who took to social media to attack the Trump administration. He is a well-known anti-conservative Nashville TV reporter, and he did the same thing, posting stuff about blaming Trump and the incoming administration. He quickly deleted it and sort of apologized. That guy shouldn't appear on the airwaves ever again. What TV station, what reputable television station would employ such a ghoul, such a jerk? There's been some monstrous reactions. How do you politicize such an awful event? There's something that's gone wrong with you. So let's take you to Washington. Here's Pete Hegseth moments ago addressing the nation from his desk in the Defense Department.
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This morning, I just got off the phone with the SELFCOM commander and the chairman, the Joint Chiefs, talking about our efforts at Guantanamo Bay. That is ongoing. We're leaning forward on supporting the president's directive to make sure that we have a location for violent criminal illegals as they are deported out of the country. No one's going to wait on the Defense Department, and we're working that in real time. But I also wanted to give an update on the tragedy that happened last night here in Washington, D.C., and provide a little bit more information as we are actively working to investigate and understand what occurred and why. At about 8.48 last night, a UH-60 assigned to the U.S. Army Aviation Brigade in the military district of Washington, Fort Belvoir, Virginia, collided tragically with a civilian airliner. The army unit involved was Bravo Company 12th Aviation Battalion at Fort Belvoir. It was an annual proficiency training flight. And when we look at the crew, and not all can have been notified, so we're going to withhold ranks and names at this point. We do know on our side who was involved. It was a fairly experienced crew, and it was doing a required annual night evaluation. They did have night vision goggles. The 12th Aviation Battalion, as of now, has granted a 48-hour operational pause on contingency missions as what happened is reviewed. And a senior-level aviation team, an investigative team from our Aviation Safety Center, was deployed last night and already is in Washington, D.C., to investigate what's going on. We anticipate that the investigation will quickly be able to determine whether the aircraft was in the corridor and at the right altitude at the time of the incident. As I mentioned, next of kin notifications are ongoing. It's a tragedy, a horrible loss of life for those 64 souls on that civilian airliner and, of course, the three soldiers in that Black Hawk aircraft. They're in our prayers, their families and their communities. As people are notified, I can't imagine. And I know it's gone from a rescue mission to a recovery mission. And we're with all the first responders that are moving actively, too. So at the Defense Department, our thoughts and prayers go out. We are actively investigating to find out what happened and why. And as we get updates, you will have them.
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That's the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, rolling up his sleeves and getting to work as his job commences. Same for Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary. Same for President Trump.
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It's week two of the Trump era, and earlier in the week, Mike did his best to keep up with the president's first seven days.
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This was a history-making week. Now, let me read this list from Insurrection Barbie. And I'm going to read every one of these items. 34 events. 34 acts. 34 occurrences. 34 monumental historic events. achievements in one week. Biden didn't have 34 accomplishments of this stature in four years. This is one week. Can I read the list to you? Immigration, we know. Number one, all the things about immigration, ending birthright citizenship, beefing up the visa screenings, the national emergency at the border, thousands of troops being deployed. That's number one. That's just number one, immigration. Number two, pardons. He pardoned the He pardoned wrongfully convicted cops. Pardons. Number three, signed executive orders directed as a direction on a ban on the weaponization of government. Number four, banned censorship of free speech. Five, directed investigations into past misconduct by the government. Six, recognized two sexes, men and women. Seven, canceled DEI, put every DEI employee on federal leave. Eight, rescinded affirmative action by executive order. Nine, fired 1,000 Biden presidential appointees. Ten, U.S. embassies can only fly the American flag. Eleven, declared a national energy emergency. And with that, we pulled out of the disastrous Paris climate accords. Deregulation of domestic energy production. Eliminated EV mandates. All under the National Energy Emergency. That's only number 11. Number 12. Paused all foreign aid for 90 days.
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America First policy advanced. 14. An executive order that directed a hiring freeze. Fifteen. An executive order that directed a regulatory freeze. Sixteen. Established Doge, you know, the Department of Government Efficiency. Seventeen. Revoked a hundred Biden executive orders. Eighteen. Federal employees will be hired on merit. 19 withdrew from the World Health Organization. 20 suspended the ban on TikTok. 21 restored the Mexico City rule. 22 reinstated the Hyde Amendment. No more federal funding for abortions. 23 spoke at Davos and told the Bank of... America CEO stopped debanking conservatives. 24, spoke with the leaders of Denmark, El Salvador, Saudi Arabia. 25, secured $1.1 trillion in investments in our economy. 26, designated the Houthis as a terrorist organization. 27, traveled to North Carolina and then California, getting Gavin Newsom to bend the knee and kiss the ring. and schooled Karen Bass, that radical leftist mayor of Los Angeles. 28, got homeowners all kinds of information on getting back into their homes in Pacific Palisades. 29, signed an executive order to declassify MLK, JFK, and RFK Jr. files. RFK files, rather. Thirty, strip taxpayer-funded security for Anthony Fauci, John Bolton, and Mike Pompeo. We'll get into that in just a moment. That's a hotly contested issue. Thirty-one, revoke the security clearances for 51 former spies who lied. Thirty-two, institute the death penalty for killing a cop or an illegal killing a citizen. Thirty-three, withdrew the menthol cigarette ban. 34 held a rally in Las Vegas to promote no tax on tips. That's just one week. That's his first week. And we're just kicking off Monday. My goodness. This is beyond history. This is a triumphant, staggering win for America.
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Billionaire actress Selena Gomez took to social media, bemoaning the first round of deportations. There was plenty of weeping and crying, but I don't think anyone was buying it.
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You seen the Selena Gomez video? She's an interesting young woman. She's 32 years old. She's a billionaire. She started out as a Disney child star. Successful actress, businesswoman. She has some kind of a beauty product line. And she took a camera and pointed it to herself. and essentially had a mental breakdown over the mass deportation that is taking place right now in the United States. Now, she's from the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Her mother's American. Her father, apparently, who abandoned, as I understand, the family when she was young, was Mexican. She, and I think this is important, And we all ought to be about some degree of compassion and humanity. She evidently struggles with mental health issues. I guess after you see this video, that can be confirmed.
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I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. The children... I don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. I don't know what to do. I'll try everything I promise.
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Well, there are some things you can do other than point a camera at yourself and ugly cry for your 422 million followers on Instagram. Why don't you take some of your hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars I mean, she's worth apparently over a billion with a B. Take $100 million and buy an island and give illegals a sanctuary island. You could get a heck of an island for $100 million. You'd get a lot done. Why don't you start? Why don't you step up? I understand she's got a palatial mansion in Los Angeles with a big gate, incidentally. That irony shouldn't be lost on anyone. Open up your gates and bring in maybe dozens of illegals to live in your home. And I'm not saying that to be a smart aleck. Do something other than point a camera at yourself and cry. And incidentally, remember the nature of this actress's It's total performance art. I'm not trying to mock her if she really is mentally ill. Maybe she's got a lot of problems. But when you put a camera on your face and then... sob and weep and moan and groan and cry, you want your 422 million followers to see that. A camera didn't walk in. Some guy with a camera didn't just waltz into her kitchen and say, oh, let me take a video of you in one of your lowest moments. No, she did that. She's an actress. She's a performer. And apparently got, again, mental health challenges. Tom Holman was asked about it. The border czar, he said, we haven't arrested any families. We're arresting public safety threats and national security for us. Bottom line, if they don't like it, then go to Congress and change the law. We're going to do this, he said, without apology. We're going to do this without apology. Do you think Selena Gomez wept over the crime victims? who suffered at the hands of the trendy Aragua gang members from Venezuela? You think she cried for Lake and Riley? Maybe she did. Maybe she cries a lot. But there is a new sheriff in town. There is a new dawn that has risen. And we're going to go forward with this without apology to the Selena Gomez's of the world.
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This week, we caught up with Breitbart's Joel Pollack to talk about President Trump's visit to California in the wake of the terrible fires there. We wondered, will the citizens of that state finally wake up?
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Well, Joel, let's talk about Trump's willingness to travel to Southern California, you know, four or five days into his term. I mean, they were begging Biden to show up in Palestine, Ohio. They were begging Biden to show that he cared about people who've been devastated by something like wildfires. Give us your takeaway of being in that room and watching President Trump interact with local and state officials. I mean, there he was, you know, Gavin Newsom's waiting for him on the tarmac. I mean, how dare they suggest that he wants to leave anybody behind?
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Well, you know, I'm glad you mentioned East Palestine, because one of the reasons Biden didn't go there is that he knew that eastern Ohio was not Biden country. OK, he likes to talk about being from Pennsylvania, but that part of the world does not vote for Joe Biden. It doesn't vote for Democrats anymore. And so he didn't want to go there. Whereas Donald Trump went not only to western North Carolina, which is definitely Trump country, but he came here and this is Kamala Harris country, Hillary Clinton country, Barack Obama country. He came out here, and I might have been the only resident in that town hall who actually voted for Trump. I think most of my neighbors voted Democratic. And he came out here because he's president of all the people. But also, I think what happened among my neighbors was they saw that he was fighting for them against the state and local officials who wanted to give all kinds of excuses as to why these homeowners couldn't get back and rebuild. And so I don't know if that means they're going to change their votes. right now i don't really care i just want to see them get the help they need but i do think it was eye-opening for them to see how hard he was fighting for them people who never voted for him let's say against these state and local officials that they elected i do think there's a moment there's a reckoning happening right now in california where people are realizing that we've focused on everything else except government the democratic party has offered us identity politics And all kinds of social issues, they have not delivered better performance. And you see it in emergencies like these. So I do think the president achieved a lot by coming to an area that is a deep blue area. This is not the most conservative, excuse me, not the most liberal part of L.A. This part of L.A. did vote for Rick Caruso, who's a former Republican, left of center Democrat for mayor, not left wing Karen Bass. But it is still overwhelmingly a Democratic area, although we do have some conservatives here. And I think it took political courage for him to be here, and I think it did change some hearts and minds.
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We're joined by Joel Pollack, Breitbart News senior editor-at-large. If you're watching on Salem News Channel, you see the devastation of the Pacific Palisades neighborhood behind him. Thank goodness your house was saved, but of course many were not. Joel, you wrote a book. the agenda, what Trump should do in his first 100 days. It's available wherever books are sold. When you were putting this book together, did you envision that week one would have been the epic, history-making week that we've experienced? I mean, it's like drinking out of a fire hose. Even you probably didn't see this coming.
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Yeah, you know, when I wrote the book, I used that standard that we use to measure presidents, which is the first 100 days. And that really comes to us from President Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the first hundred days of his administration when he launched the New Deal. And that was considered a rapid sprint to start what was then a poor, firm presidency. I think we have to change the benchmark. It has to be the first week. I think Donald Trump did almost everything in my book. The first three or four days of his presidency, there are still a few things left to do. But I was blown away by how much he did. I suggested when I was talking about the book last summer that he should launch about 200 executive orders. He did 118 on the first day alone. So reading my book, but also it's a new standard. He has set a new standard for governance. And notice how little resistance there is this time around, because a lot of what he's doing is just common sense.
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Vice President J.D. Vance turned up on the Sunday morning talk shows this week and conducted a master class in schooling the media on illegal immigration.
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What side are you on? Are you on the side of law and order? Are you on the side of breaking the law? This Brandon Johnson, this whack job, radical goofball mayor of Chicago, he's doubling down. Oh, we're a sanctuary city. Come to Chicago. Come one, come all. Great. Keep it up. And watch what happens. Because... President Trump isn't playing. This guy is not playing around. He has surrounded himself with smart, loyal, clear-eyed leadership. Here's J.D. Vance, another clip. I can't get enough of his Margaret Brennan interview on Face the Nation. The issue of birthright citizenship keeps coming up because the left has twisted the origins of of the 14th Amendment to turn it into something that it was never intended by the Founding Fathers. It was to grant citizenship to formerly enslaved black Americans. That's what the whole purpose was of birthright citizenship, not somebody who comes across the Rio Grande eight and a half months pregnant in order to give birth so that they can get the benefits the free health care provided by the United States. So that came up yesterday with Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation.
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If you are a lawful permanent resident or a legal immigrant who plans to stay, your children, of course, should become American citizens. But let's say you're the child of an ambassador. You don't become.
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But that's not part of it.
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Well, that is an important principle. But we're saying that that carve out should apply to anybody who doesn't plan to stay here. If you come here on vacation and you have a baby in an American hospital, that baby doesn't become an American citizen. If you're an illegal alien and you come here temporarily, hopefully. Your child does not become an elite American citizen by virtue of just having been born on American soil. It's a very basic principle in American immigration law that if you want to become an American citizen and you've done it the right way and the American people and their collective wisdom have welcomed you into our national community, then you become a citizen. But temporary residence. People who come in here, whether legally or illegally, and don't plan to stay, their children should become American citizens. I don't know any country that does that or why we would be different.
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Why are we different? Because we've let the left hijack common sense. And I have to tell you, that interview yesterday, the condescending way... Margaret Brennan spoke to the vice president for the whole interview was really, really appalling. And look, the media better wake up. They're starting to. They're starting to change. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow. And I do want to tell you, I got a message from Mike Lindell himself today. This is an amazing offer. Free shipping on everything. So if you've thought about getting the mattress topper, which comes in a big box, and that mattress topper is like three inches of heaven. You take it and put it on any mattress, turn it into the most comfortable bed in the world. And it comes in a big box. You unfold it and everything. You unpack it. Well, guess what? For a limited time, free shipping on anything you order. Mike Lindell is so grateful to this audience for your constant support of MyPillow. They've tried to cancel him, too, just like they're trying to cancel RFK Jr. and everybody else. It isn't working because you're standing in the breach. You're defending this great American company. And for a limited time, not only can you get the classic standard MyPillow for only $14.98, limit $10, please, because that's a crazy low price, the MySlippers, the doggy beds, the flannel sheets, even the mattress itself. You can get a MyPillow mattress, which has thousands of cooling points. It has the patented technology from MyPillow in the mattress. And best part of all, Free shipping. Free shipping as a thank you for your support for a limited time. So go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher Specials Square, click on that box, and with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034, like we love to sing. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com.
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Promo code MikeG. This is the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. I'm Eric Hansen. Don't look now, but is Donald Trump getting ready to end the federal income tax?
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Did Donald Trump's new Treasury Secretary pledge to abolish income tax? Well, a lot of people got fooled by, including one of our own sites, I think, posting an ex-account for Scott Besson the new Treasury Secretary, that was fake. Turned out that the post where he said, time to get rid of income tax and just rely on tariffs and gold, that was a fake post. Besant has repeatedly said that he is going to prioritize election tax cut promises. Besant told the Wall Street Journal... The tax cut measures will include making Trump's first-term tax cuts permanent. They're going to eliminate taxes on tips, Social Security benefits, and overtime pay. But there is no apparent effort by the Treasury Secretary, contrary to popular belief, to to getting rid of the federal income tax. However, President Trump has floated the idea. Here he was speaking to House GOP members this week.
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It's time for the United States to return to the system that made us richer and more powerful than ever before. Do you know, the United States in 1870 to 1913, all tariffs, and that was the richest period in the history of the United States, relatively speaking. We had no income tax. The income tax came in in 1913. As I said in my speech last week, instead of taxing our citizens to enrich foreign nations, we should be tariffing and taxing foreign nations to enrich our citizens. Does that make sense?
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Makes all the sense in the world. And our tax code makes zero sense. Makes no sense. Now, I'm always sensitive to my complaining about taxes. Because to many people, if you make a really good living, who cares if you pay a lot of taxes, right? And I get that argument. I do understand that. And I'm mindful that I don't exactly make minimum wage. However, when the vast majority of taxes in America are paid by the so-called 1%, that's wrong. And when you break down statistically... What the percentages are of Americans who pay federal income tax, it's really obscene. A majority of Americans don't pay any federal income tax at all. And a minority of Americans, people who have been financially successful, pay almost all federal income tax in America. That's a fact. That's not fair. That's not right. Everybody ought to have some skin in the game. And I don't care if it's a flat tax. I think a consumption tax has merit. Get rid of federal income tax altogether. Tax people who buy things. Because the more you make, the more you're going to spend. The more you spend, the higher your taxes. You buy a, I don't know, a TV set for a thousand bucks. Instead of just sales tax, maybe you pay a 10% tax on the $1,000 TV set. If you make $50,000 a year, maybe you can't afford a $1,000 TV set. So you buy a $200 TV set and you pay 10% on the $200 TV set. You're only paying $20, right? I think there's merit to that. I think there's a lot of merit to one flat tax, one rate across the board. When I left New York City, I was paying 51% in taxes. Now, I can guarantee you most Americans don't pay 51% in taxes. Again, I earn more than many people earn. I'm mindful of that, and I'm grateful. I'm blessed. But if you think whatever you make, it would be okay. How would you like to give more than half of your... Now, it was unique because it was New York. So I was paying New York City, New York State, and federal taxes. When I moved to Florida, no more city or state. That's why everybody's doing it. That's why Sean Hannity's doing it. That's why so many people have come to Florida or states with no state income tax. You get an instant...
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pay increase. A new law claims that the rideshare app Uber discriminated against the passenger based on her size. We talked to the attorney in the case, John Marco.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't want to fat shame your client, but she's nearly 500 pounds. What was the size of the vehicle? Because you couldn't really tell from her video. It looked to me like a Camry or a Toyota, right? A Corolla?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it was a Mercedes. It was a large Mercedes. You know, these Mercedes have those big back seats. And Mike, I got to tell you, look, I was a little surprised when the story came out. that my client has received kind of a lot of negative pushback on this, which as an attorney that does, I was kind of surprised because I didn't expect this to receive such a negative backlash because it's not just about her. But since this has come out, I've received calls from other people. I have a video, for example, of an 82-year-old elderly woman who called an Uber to get doctors to get help. And she had a walker, Mike, so she's walking out, trying to get into the Uber. And when the Uber driver saw that she had a walker, he didn't want to deal with it, so he sped off, and she didn't make her doctor's appointment.
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Wow.
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And so, I mean, I get your viewers, and we can take a look at this and say, you know, we can laugh at it or say that...
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that this negative backlash but this isn't just for her it's for everybody i mean mike what if you try to get an uber and they said you know what i don't pick up white people well and of course i don't have a choice about my race i i have no choice of my skin color maybe maybe dank damas doesn't have choice over her weight maybe she's got a glandular situation or thyroid but you know i i get your point about weight being a protected you know class i guess in michigan you you cite the law But I keep thinking about all the pragmatic issues that people who are overweight or, in this case, morbidly obese, face, like getting on an airplane. And there's a whole debate about that. And I thought about that, too. Is the airline required to give a 489-passenger three seats? Give them the whole row because she surely can't fit into a regular seat on an airplane. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Mike, that's a great point. If this was a Delta Airlines case, Delta, we got a big hub out of Detroit. I wouldn't have touched this case at all. And I would have said, I'm sorry. But that's different because on a Delta flight, you know, you pay for the seat and you're going to inconvenience or prevent other people from being able to fly where you're encroaching on other people's rights. Right. In this particular case, the... Look, if she literally couldn't fit in the vehicle, like she literally couldn't fit in the door, then I wouldn't bring this case either. But in this case, she had been in these types of vehicles before. She wasn't encroaching on anyone other's rights. other than the driver said, I just don't want to take a big woman in my car.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, but John, now come on, now come on. Now, John, you know that he didn't just say, well, I just don't want to take you. He clearly had a legitimate concern that a 500, nearly 500 pound woman was going to be rough on maybe the car, the vehicle, the suspension. I mean, you don't think he, why else would he have turned her away if not for her weight?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, he did turn away from her weight, but okay, let's say he picked up three people in an Uber. Look, a 500-pound woman is not going to break a Mercedes C-Class. No, you're right. You're right. You're right, of course. I mean, you pick up three people. I go with my friends down to the Detroit Lions, who unfortunately aren't going to make it this year, but I get an Uber. We load in. We load in three people, and we each weigh close to 200. That's 600 pounds right there. John Marco is our guest.
SPEAKER 09 :
He's the founder of Marco Law out of Detroit. We're talking about this case of this woman. Incidentally, what happened? I want to ask you what you want because you're suing. What do you want from Lyft, which is, of course, the company that is under the umbrella for the ride share? But first of all, what happened to the driver?
SPEAKER 08 :
Nothing, as far as we can tell, nothing has happened to the driver. We want an apology from Lyft. And look, we just want them to implement policies so this doesn't happen to anyone. And not just because of your weight, but because of the other things I told you, if your grandma needs to go to the doctors. you need to be rest assured that if they call a business that they're not going to violate that person's rights or sure you know if you're coming out of church with a cross hanging off your chest and you know you you you want to go to the church or whatever that you're not going to be discriminated there at all either we're just asking for equal policies for equal protection
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Robert Kennedy Jr. faced the Senate in his bid to become the Director of Health and Human Services this week, standing in his way, a particularly ridiculous Senator Bernie Sanders.
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What a spectacle a number of these Democrats made of themselves. How about Comrade Bernie shrieking about onesies? This doofus thought it would be a good idea to find... You know the little outfits that babies put on? And apparently there were onesies with anti-vax messages on them. And so Bernie Sanders gets somebody at taxpayer expense to make big signs, blowing up the pictures of the onesies and shrieking at Bobby Kennedy, do you support the onesies? This actually happened yesterday on Capitol Hill.
SPEAKER 03 :
They are selling what's called onesies. These are little things clothing for babies. One of them is titled Unfaxed Unafraid. Next one, and they're sold for 26 bucks apiece, by the way. Next one is no vax, no problem. Now, you're coming before this committee and you say you're pro-vaccine. Just want to ask some questions. And yet your organization is making money selling a child's product to parents for 26 bucks, which has fundamental doubt on the usefulness of vaccines. Can you tell us now that you will, now that you are president, Pro vaccine that you're going to have your organization take these products off the market.
SPEAKER 13 :
Senator, I have no power over that organization. I'm not part of it. I resigned from the board.
SPEAKER 03 :
That was just a few months ago. You founded that. You certainly have power. You can make that. Are you supportive of this? I've had nothing to do with these onesies.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm supportive of vaccines.
SPEAKER 03 :
Are you supportive of these this clothing, which is militantly anti vaccine?
SPEAKER 13 :
I am supportive of vaccines. Well, I want good science and I want to protect.
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But you will not tell the organization you founded not to continue selling that product. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Are you supportive of the onesies? What do you think about the onesies? This is a deranged lunatic. That's a senior U.S. Senator. Do you like the onesies? My Lord. And it gets worse with Chuck Schumer. Now, these are the heads of the Democrat Party. Check out Chuck Schumer's clip. talking about the resistance. This is how he describes the resistance. Does Chuck Schumer, a guy who's been around 100 years, the Senate minority leader, thank goodness, a guy who's been in politics since dirt was made, this is how he chooses to describe the emotional response of those who are resisting the Trump administration.
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But the roots of democracy are deep. People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time in terms of going trying to get this done. So, yes, I think democracy will have an effect and we are going to keep at it.
SPEAKER 09 :
OK, well, and you wonder why the Democrats have about a 30 percent approval rating right now with the American people. Quinnipiac came out with a poll the other day. Democrats are there almost as down there with the media. The Democrat Party is in such trouble right now. And if you don't have lunatics like Bernie Sanders shrieking about the onesies, you got Chuck Schumer saying, I haven't seen people this aroused in a long time.
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The CIA concluded this week that the COVID-19 pandemic originated in a lab in Wuhan, China. Gee, now tell us something we don't know.
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Remember how many people got in trouble? for suggesting that the coronavirus came from a lab in Wuhan? Even Jon Stewart went on the Stephen Colbert show and said, you know, it's like, oh, there's an outbreak of chocolatey goodness in Hershey, Pennsylvania. Wonder what could be the cause? Remember the whole wet market thing and the virus jump from a pangolin to a man? Well, now the CIA thinks that the virus originated from a lab. The assessment was declassified and released Saturday on the orders of President Trump's pick to lead the agency, John Ratcliffe. The new director of the CIA has said that this critical piece of intelligence should be released to the public. And guess what? It has been. Now the CIA says it's more likely. that COVID originated from a lab leak. I thought it would be good to track this story down with one of the few news people in America who routinely called it the China virus. Roger P. Shulman has been covering news in Florida for the better part of five decades, and I wanted to bring Roger in. Of course, last year we added him to the Mike Gallagher Show lineup. He's in the Mike Gallagher newsroom. looking spiffy in his red-white and blue tie or red-white and black tie? Red-white and dark blue, very dark blue.
SPEAKER 02 :
Dark blue.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, good. My eagle eye caught it. You've got a patriotic tie on. You always referred to it as the China virus. Did you get any flack for that over the years?
SPEAKER 02 :
I did get some flack, but I continued it because that's where it came from. It's obvious that's where it came from. Seven million people died of it. Countless others have had problems since. We have had so many businesses closed in this country because of it. Many have not recovered yet. And obviously, it came from China. You had a lab in Wuhan that was working with the help of Fauci to weaponize this virus. He was told not to do this. You have this building in the middle of a town, a city with millions of people, horrible place to put it, because any mistake is out in the population immediately. These labs, in my opinion, should be 50 miles out in some desert covered by some sort of covering. So if this does happen, it doesn't affect anybody. But no, they put it in the middle of a population area. Apparently, a mistake was made, according to the CIA, and it caused this to be released. Unfortunately, the Chinese government did not stop flights out of China to the United States and other areas like Italy. Italy was hit hard because they import Chinese workers to work on those nice purses that you get for thousands of dollars that say they're from Italy. But actually, they're worked on by Chinese people who work cheaply and are flown in each day. Well, each week or so from China. So you had a whole situation there where this went around the world very quickly. I don't know if China wanted that to happen, if it was planned or what, but it's a terrible situation. Anthony Fauci should, in my opinion, and this is just my opinion, take the main blame because he's the one who wanted to weaponize, make this virus, which is a bad virus. even a worse virus, and it killed 7 million people. Big crime against humanity, I would think.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is why there's such debate over whether or not it's reasonable to pull Anthony Fauci's security detail from him. We're spending millions of dollars to guard him. at the expense of the American taxpayer. And of course, he's gone on to make millions and millions of dollars. The argument is he can afford to get his own security if he wants bodyguards. And incidentally, Roger, before anybody accuses this of being politicized, these conclusions that the CIA has come to came from a review ordered by the Biden administration. They were just released this week by Radcliffe, but it was a Biden-ordered review. The CIA reviewed it, and they said, look, it's more likely than not that it came from the lab. I mean, remember when people were getting destroyed for saying that? People were being called whack-job, wild-eyed conspiracy theorists. If you dared say that it came from the lab, people like Roger P. Shulman got flack for calling it the China virus.
SPEAKER 02 :
And that's where it came from. I was accused of being racist because it was Chinese. What about the Spanish flu? What about the various African Ebola's and things that came from? We've always given place names to these diseases. But now, since it's the Chinese, oh, we can't say that. It's as you say, racist.
SPEAKER 09 :
Racist. Well, no, there's no racism there. It's just cold, hard facts. Roger P. Shulman, great job. And this is one of the reasons we love you. This is one guy who always called it the China virus in all of his newscasts. One of the best newsmen in America checking in with us from our newsroom. Thank you. Thank you, Roger.
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And that wraps up the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast for Friday, January 31st, 2025. Be sure to subscribe to all of the podcasts and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you like the show, be sure to share it with a friend. I'm Eric Hansen. We'll see you back here next week on the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast.
Rick Hughes takes listeners on a journey through the doctrine of eternal security, providing clarity on complex spiritual truths. Using scriptural references, he illustrates how salvation is a gift of God's grace, one that cannot be lost through the trials and tribulations of life. Through engaging storytelling, including the parable of the Prodigal Son, Rick offers insights into God's unwavering love and forgiveness. This episode is a call for all believers to trust in their spiritual inheritance and to embrace the compassionate and enduring nature of God's promises.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to The Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes. And for the next few minutes, I'd like to invite you to stay with me because it's going to be 30 minutes of motivation, inspiration, education. And we do this without any type of solicitation or manipulation. We don't ask you for anything. We're not trying to con you into doing anything. My job is simply to give you some accurate information. Information that may, if you listen, may help you verify and identify the plan of God for your life. You can always orient and adjust to that plan. That's up to you. But the Flatline is designed to remind you of some truths you probably already know about maybe even introduce you to a different way of studying and learning God's Word. As I said, no manipulation here, just 30 minutes of education. That's my job. Give it to you straight up, clear, lucid, so you can understand. The first thing we all have to understand is it starts with the good news that Jesus Christ, the anointed Son of God, redeemed us out of the slave market of sin. Our debt to God was paid for, and we are now free of the penalty of sin as well as the power of sin in our life. So if we receive Christ as our Savior, we are in effect accepting the offering he made on our behalf. It's a free gift for us, compliments of the grace of God. That's why Ephesians 2, 8 and 9 says, for by grace you are saved through faith. That's not of yourselves, it's a gift of God, not of works, lest any man would brag about it. Titus 3, 5 through 7 says this, not by works of righteousness which we've done, but according to his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Lord. that being justified by his grace, not works, by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the confidence of eternal life. Eternal life is a wonderful thing to know that you possess it, to know that you do not have to worry about where you are going when it's your time to depart, and it will be your time sooner or later, because the Bible says it's appointed unto man once to die, and after that, the judgment. All people have to die. The reason is simple. This body won't operate in the presence of God because it's contaminated with a sinful nature. The Bible tells us, for by one man, sin came into the world and death by sin. And now death has passed on all for all have sinned and the wages of sin is death. And that's not just physical death, the spiritual death. We are born physically alive. Yes, we are. but we are born spiritually dead due to the assignment of Adam's original sin to us at birth. We are born into a sinful condition, and we have to be born again. And what's happened is our human spirit is born spiritually dead. We're physically alive, we have a soul, we have mentality, we have emotions, we have conscience, yes, volition, yes, but we are spiritually dead, separated from God until we receive Christ as Savior. When that happens, the moment we do what the Bible tells us to do, whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. If you've done that, that's the moment you entered into the eternal relationship with God. But the $64,000 question that people always ask is, can God cancel eternal life if you mess up? You know, it's possible you may be listening to me today and incarcerated. You've messed up a little bit. You had a debt to pay to society and you're in the process of paying that debt now. Does God cancel your eternal life because you mess up, whether you've been caught or not? No, God doesn't cancel your eternal life. Once God gives it to you, he doesn't pull it back, and we're going to study that today, the doctrine of eternal security, how you can have complete confidence in what God gave you at the moment of salvation, and how you can comfortably know that even if you mess up, he's not going to demand that you give it back to him. Let's start with John 10, 28 and 29. The Bible says in these words, and I give unto them eternal life. That means you will live forever in a resurrection body. You will live forever in the presence of God the Father in a resurrection body in the new heavens and the new earth that will be created according to 2 Peter 3 because it says the universe will be destroyed and this earth will be destroyed and there will be a new heaven and a new earth and the new earth won't even have a sea, the Bible says. That's where we'll spend eternity, and that's after the millennial reign of Christ when we will be here with him for a thousand years as he sets up his kingdom, the kingdom of David on the throne of David actually in Jerusalem. We're back with him for a thousand years. So we will have eternal life the minute you leave this body. The minute you exit this body, you are not dead. There's no way you're dead. You're just transferring from going to be face to face with the Lord. This body goes back to the ground, back to dust to dust, to ashes to ashes. But your soul and your spirit will enter a new body, a resurrection body, and that's the body you'll live in forever, and that's the perfect body. So I give unto them eternal life, John 10, 28 and 29. and they will never perish. Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father which gave them me is greater than all. And no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. So we know right away that Jesus Christ, our Lord, has given to you eternal life by faith alone in Christ alone. Paul put it this way to the Roman jailer, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. When you make a decision to believe in Christ and receive him as your Savior, you enter eternal life. John 3 is clear about that. He that believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. And he that believeth not the wrath of God already abides on him. So if you've made that decision, no one can take it away from you. In 2 Timothy 2.13, here is a verse you should find confidence in. If we believe not, yet he abides faithful. He cannot deny himself. What does that mean? Well, it means that a lot of times children will accept Christ as Savior when they're young, but as they get older and they develop their mental faculties, they begin to doubt their salvation. They begin to buy into some humanistic philosophy, some atheistic philosophy, and now they say, well, I don't even believe God exists anymore. Maybe when I was a kid, but Not now. Even if we believe not, he abides faithful. He cannot deny himself. How does this work? Well, it means this, that when you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior, the Bible puts it this way, he who knew no sin was made sin for us, in order that we might be made the righteousness of God through Him. Remember that God is absolutely righteous, perfect righteousness, and He's absolutely just. And so the justice of God judged Jesus Christ on the cross with all of my sin. When I come to the cross and believe in Christ and receive Him as my Savior, His righteousness is given to me. He took my sin and now he gives me his righteousness. And so we look at it this way. If God is absolutely righteous, in order for me to have a relationship with God, I must be absolutely righteous. And the only way I can be absolutely righteous is have Christ's righteousness given to me. So he who knew no sin was made sin for us in order that we may be made righteous. the righteousness of God by means of him. So once that plus R, God's righteousness, is accredited to my account because I receive Christ as my Savior, God's not going to take it back. He's not going to say, I want my righteousness back, and I'm going to kick you out of my royal family now, even though I said you were heir to all that Christ is heir to. Now that you messed up, You can't be heir anymore. He's not going to do that. That's not the way God operates. He's immutable. He does not change. How could he change his mind about you? It's not going to happen. And so 1 John 5, 12 says, he that has the son has life. And he that has not the son of God has not life. In order to have eternal life, you must possess Jesus Christ as your savior. not by works of righteousness which we've done, but according to his mercy he saved us. The very verse I gave you at the beginning of this study in Titus chapter three, verses five through seven. Now let's look at a case study in the Bible of who probably should have lost it, you'd say. You know, some people say if there's anybody that should lose their eternal life, it's this guy. But he didn't. And this is a case study from 1 Corinthians 5, verses 1 through 5, and just reading out of the standard King James Bible. It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you. Fornication. Several words in the Bible that we have, fornication and adultery, you should know what that is. The word for fornication is the Greek word pornea, P-O-R-N-E-I-A. And that absolutely was a four-letter word in Greek vocabulary. Fornication is two people having sex outside the boundaries of marriage. And adultery is one of the other of the married couples having sex outside the boundaries of marriage. Fornication can include a lot of different things, such as homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia, pornography, whatever. It's all that junk. And so it is reported there's fornication among you and such fornication. Now here's the shocker, Paul said, it's not even named among the Gentiles. In other words, the unbelievers don't even do this. This is so horrible and so sick and perverted that lost people don't even do it. And now he tells them what it is. This is in the church in Corinth, a member of the church in Corinth, that one should have his father's wife. Do you get that? A member of the congregation is fornicating with his stepmother. Verse 2, chapter 5, 1 Corinthians 5, verse 2. And you are puffed up, and you have not rather mourned that he that did this deed may be taken away from among you. For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already as though I were present concerning the one that did this deed. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, verse 4, 1 Corinthians chapter 5, when you're gathered together and in my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. Did you hear that last sentence? So that the spirit would be saved in the day of the Lord. Now here's what's going to happen. He's going under dying discipline. There are three stages of discipline. You should know this. There's warning discipline where God warns you that you're out of line. And this might not hurt. This just may be a Bible verse or a preacher or a sign or something you read. But then there's also intense discipline. This one hurts. This is when God has to take you out behind the woodshed and wake you up a little bit. This is all taught in Hebrews chapter 12. Those whom I love, I chasten and I scourge with a whip sometimes. Sometimes God has to bring pain into your life to get an attitude adjustment. That attitude adjustment is humility rather than arrogance. So warning discipline, God warns you. Intense discipline, God brings suffering into your life to correct your course before you self-destruct. And then there's dying discipline. And this is where the verse says in Hebrews, we've had earthly fathers that corrected us and we respected them. How much more shall we respect God and live? And live. And in Proverbs 15, 10, he that hates the reproof of God shall die. So it's possible as a Christian that God the Father could take you out way too soon. You're still going to heaven. You still have eternal life. But you certainly made a mess of this life, and you will not have the rewards in heaven that others may have. And that's exactly what's happening here. He's going out under the sin unto death. He's going to be turned over to Satan. Okay, you can go ahead, you can ravage him. The Bible says Satan goes around like a roaring lion seeking who he can devour. And Satan's going to devour this individual. But Paul said the spirit would be saved in the day of the Lord. Yes, his body will go back to the ground. Yes, he's going to die too early. But since he had believed in Jesus Christ, his soul and spirit will go to heaven. He will not hear, well done, my good and faithful servant. He's not going to hear that. but he does have eternal life. Why? Because number one, he didn't do anything to gain it. If you can't do anything to earn it, then how can you do something to lose it? Doesn't that make sense? If you cannot do anything to earn it, well, how could you do something to lose it? It can't be one way or the other. You either got to do something to earn it and you got to do something to keep it or you don't have to do anything to earn it other than believe and there's nothing you can do to lose it. So principle one, God in his grace does not cancel our eternal life. What he freely gives, he does not take back. Point two, if you got it freely... then had to work to keep it, then you really never actually had it to start with. Did you hear me? If you got it freely, that's eternal life, and then you had to work to keep it, then you never really actually had it to start with. You were just hoping you had it. If you were just hoping you had it, that you could hold on to it without really messing up. So that's what that means. If you got it freely and had to work to keep it, you never really actually had it to start with. You were just hoping you had it. And you were hoping that you could hold on to it so you wouldn't mess up. Point three, this fact does not ensure that you're going to be successful in executing the Christian life. The fact that you're not gonna lose your salvation, that does not guarantee you that you will live a successful Christian life. Without learning the protocol plan of God, you will never, ever live a successful Christian life. You will have eternal life, you will go to heaven, But you will miss out on the phenomenal blessings of abiding in Jesus Christ while you're in this world. Remember he said, if you abide in me and my word abides in you, then you can ask what you will and I'll pour it out on you. Listen, if you abide in Christ, that means you stay filled with the Holy Spirit. That means if my word abides in you, that means you learn his word and apply it into your life and change the way you think. And you start thinking in terms of divine viewpoint, not human viewpoint. So the fourth principle here is the fact that the righteousness of God is given to us means that it would have to be taken away from us in order to lose our salvation. And that's not gonna happen. In 2 Corinthians 5.21, he made him who knew no sin to be sin for us that we could become the righteousness of God through him. I've quoted that verse several times. That's why you're going to heaven, because you have the righteousness of Jesus Christ given to you. Point five, you cannot lose your salvation since it is strictly the work of God and not your work. Remember, for by grace you save through faith and not of yourselves. It's the gift of God, not of works. Point six, knowing this fact does not give you a license to go out and raise Cain. That fact that I'm telling you that you can't lose it should motivate you to want to know your heavenly father even in a more intimately way if he loves you that much. If he loves you so much that he's not going to turn his back on you when you mess up, then your security is indeed assured. In Romans 8, 38, 39, I am persuaded that neither death nor life nor angels nor principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come nor height nor depth nor any other created thing shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. And that means you messing up. You are royal family of God. You have been brought into God's royal family through faith alone in Christ alone. In Romans 8, 16, the spirit bears witness himself with our spirit that we are indeed the children of God. You might not act like it. You may act like you're a child of the devil, i've seen many christians who have been in fact saved and turned around and walked away from the plan of god they went down what i affectionately call the my way highway and they decided that they didn't really need to learn god's word And they were suckers for the lure of the world. Whatever Satan throws at them, the lies that he throws up, the deception that he throws up, much like the decoy in the duck field. And they're like the ducks flying into the decoy thinking that, oh, look, look, look, there's some ducks. Let's land here and boom, boom, boom, they get shot down. How many of you have been decoyed and deceived by the devil? Decoyed and deceived into thinking that people or circumstances can make you happy, when in fact that's a lie to start with. Because the Bible says true happiness belongs to those who hear my Father's word and keep it. My joy I give to you, Christ said. Who for the joy that was set before him, the Bible says in Hebrews 12, endured the cross, despising the shame. The greatest joy you'll ever have in your life is fulfilling the plan of God. Knowing that you're doing exactly what God created you to do. You are representing Jesus Christ. You're reflecting Christ in your life. That's what you're supposed to do. When you abide in him, you reflect him. It's a wonderful thing to get up in the morning and look in the mirror and say, I need to shave or I need to put on some makeup. And you look at yourself and make yourself presentable. Well, that's how you take care of your body. But what about taking care of your soul, the inside? and that's where we take in the word of god every day taking in the word of god every day is the doctrine for our soul that keeps our soul presentable just as shaving and combing our hair and brushing our teeth putting on your makeup keeps you presentable to people that you come in contact with so we are children of god point one once we're born into the human family we cannot be unborn to a human family Point two, once you're in the royal family, you cannot be unborn from the royal family. Three, family does not guarantee you're gonna turn out perfect. It just means you have a chance to make something out of yourself. Four, Some children of God do fantastic, and some children of God slide back into sin where they came from. They actually live their life back again like an unbeliever, and you can't even tell them that they're really a Christian. You couldn't even really tell that they're saved. Point five, just because you wind up being a total jerk does not mean that God is going to turn his back on you. He may just have to love you from behind. The illustrated parable that Christ gave about this is found in Luke 15, 11 through 24. Here's the way it goes. Then he said, that's our Lord speaking, A certain man had two sons. I always call them Frick and Frack. Frick and Frack, the older and the younger. And the younger one, old Frack, he said to his pop, Father, give me the portion of goods that fall to me. So he wanted his inheritance now. You know, normally the older son would inherit two-thirds, the younger son one-third. And he wanted his one-third now. So the father divided his livelihood with them, and it says, not many days after, the younger son gathered together everything that he had, and he took a journey to a far country, and there he wasted his possession with riotous living. What did he do? well i can assure you he fornicated a lot he got drunk he carried on he did crazy stuff he blew all his money he had no money left and i would be willing to wager that there's an invisible friend with him that that went along with him probably encouraged him to do this so the bible says in verse 14 of luke 15 when he spent it all here comes divine discipline there arose a severe famine in the land And he began to be in want. And then he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country. He had to take a job to feed himself. And the citizen sent him into the field to feed pigs. And he would gladly have filled his stomach with the slop the pigs ate because nobody gave him any food. And when he came to himself, he said, how many of my father's hired servants, this is an attitude adjustment because of divine discipline. How many of my father's hired servants have bread enough to spare and I'm dying from hunger. I will arise and go to my father and I will say to him, father, I've sinned against heaven. And before you, I'm not worthy anymore to be called your son. Just make me a hired servant. This may be you. Maybe you got away from your heavenly father. Maybe you went down the my way highway and maybe your life took a horrible turn and maybe you are miserable. Go back to your father. Go back to your heavenly father and confess your sin to God. First John one nine. If we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us and purify us from all of our wrongdoings. And he arose, verse 20, came to his father, and when he was still a great way off, his father saw him. And look, I can imagine one of the slaves said, there's a beggar coming up the driveway, should I run him off? And the father took a look and said, no, that's my boy. He's probably dirty, hadn't had a bath, didn't have shoes on, he didn't have clean clothes on. The father saw him and had compassion and ran. and fell on his neck and kissed him. That's exactly what God will do for you. He will love you so much if you will just come home. Just come home. And the son said, Father, I've sinned against heaven and in your sight, and I'm no longer worthy to be called your son. And the father said to the servants, bring out the best robe and put it on him and put a ring back on his hand, sandals back on his feet, get the fatted calf over there and kill it. Let's have a party and be merry for my son was dead, but he's alive again. He was lost and now he's been found and they began to be merry. He wasn't dead physically. He was dead temporarily, temporarily spiritually dead, not advancing in the plan of God. Listen to the principle. One, both of these boys were sons, but one was very lascivious, the other was very legalistic. Two, the sin of self-righteousness is just as bad as the sin of wanton debauchery. Three, one left home on the my way highway, but the other was already on the my way highway at home with his father because he had unrealistic expectations about who he was. So that's the question. What are you? Who are you? Have you left home from your father? Have you abandoned God's plan for your life? He still loves you. All you have to do is come home to the Father, confess your sin, and he will be faithful and just to forgive you. He didn't take your eternal life away, but you sure may be miserable today because of how you're living. Next week, same time, same place. Thank you for listening today.
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Kim invites listeners to explore the power of courage and skill through the remarkable story of Charles S. Kettles, who valiantly risked his life during the Vietnam War to save others. This tale of bravery sets the stage for a wider conversation on personal responsibility and freedom in modern America. As national discourse tears through various controversial topics, Kim emphasizes the importance of fact-based narratives and informed citizenry. The show also features sponsor Lavaca Meat Company, fortifying the conversation around food freedom and market dynamics, cementing the episode as a compelling dialogue on the balance between personal choices and government intervention.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Friday, Producer Joe. Happy Friday, Kim. And be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. The text line is 720-605-0647. I want to hear from you. And the show broadcasts 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday on all KLZ 560 platforms. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. And we do post the shows with the summaries, the podcast on the website. And also you can listen to those podcasts on iTunes and Spotify, all of those streaming services. We search for truth and clarity. By looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, lives via force. Force obviously can be a weapon, but it can be policy. We're seeing that big time here in Colorado. in California policy that is making it so difficult for businesses to be in business. That takes their opportunity. It takes their property. So it could be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. This agenda by the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites, the United Nations, we see it play out in the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado governor. These land use codes, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. The list goes on and on, but we're starting to peel that back a bit, at least at the federal level. I'm so pleased to have in studio with me my friend. That's Alan Thomas. Great to have you here.
SPEAKER 14 :
Great to be here as always, Kim. Thanks.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we've got a great show. A lot's going on out there right now, Alan Thomas.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just a little bit, right? Both here with the new legislation and then also with President Trump and everything he's doing in his first two weeks.
SPEAKER 04 :
He is certainly, I would say he's a disruptor right now. What do you think?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And, you know, we're going to talk about that in the second half of the show. But he he came in and he knew what he wanted to do.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, it might have been a little bit of a blessing, unbeknownst to all of us, to endure the last four years. But he has a mission and he is getting after it.
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He is truly getting after it. And so we're in a historical time. Yesterday, General Joe Arbuckle was on. We talked about the military and the positive things that are happening there. But we are in a dangerous time. The Biden-Harris administration has put us in a very dangerous spot on the world stage. And so there isn't a lot of time to take action. We've got to be taking action now. And he certainly is.
SPEAKER 14 :
And he's creating that distinction pretty quick. I mean, it's pretty incredible to see as soon as the election happened, how quickly the international stage even changed, which should indicate to all of America the danger of this progressive ideology, like you said, of the prior administration. It truly is a battlefield of ideas, and it was almost immediate how the international community reacted to our elections.
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Well, Trudeau, gone. Yeah, it's pretty remarkable.
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Hamas, Israel, I mean, you saw it all the way down across Latin America. We see it in Europe with the Ukraine and Russia war. All of a sudden, they're like, hey, let's get back to the table. Our ideas truly do have consequences, and for the ideas that we espouse, they're the right type of consequences.
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Yes, and so we're in a remarkable time, a historic time. So let's get into some of the things that we do every day. First thing is the word of the day. And I'm pulling this because Ross Clough yesterday, my fellow Liberty Toastmaster, was talking. I thought it was so interesting when I hear all these different ideas about things. We were talking about facts and opinion and propaganda and how to know the difference. And he used the word juxtaposition. And it could mean the actor in an instance of placing two or more things side by side, often to compare or contrast or to create an interesting effect. Or number two, the fact of two things being seen or placed close together with contrasting effect. And so it is spelled J-U-X-T-A-P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N. And your challenge is to use juxtaposition in a sentence today. So were you listening yesterday? Did you hear that part?
SPEAKER 14 :
I didn't, but I do have a sentence for you with juxtaposition.
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Do you?
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It was interesting seeing the juxtaposition of two Democrats yesterday, one of them being interviewed, the other interviewing between RFK Jr. and the panel. It was very interesting seeing that contrast side by side of some of the more common sense health realities that RFK Jr., a Democrat, has versus what the panel, what the Democrats on the panel were grilling him for. And the fact that he said, Hey, you guys used to be my friends four years ago. It was very interesting seeing that juxtaposition.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well done. And I tried to watch it, but I only caught some of the highlights, too.
SPEAKER 14 :
But it was very fascinating, you know, especially when you look at the evolution of the Democrat Party and especially where it was in like the 70s and 80s. And now what they're advocating for, for big pharma, for big tech. You know, it's kind of ironic that they have shifted so heavily, which was predictable. I mean, that's what progressives want. They're hand in hand with with big companies because that's how you can regulate people.
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Republicans are, too. We've got some Republicans that have have are being financed by some of this, these big pharma and big companies as well. And I did. I don't think I saw it when I was watching and I did. I just couldn't continue on. You could see the agenda of abortion and vaccine mandates and all that stuff with all of the questioning. And do you think he's going to get confirmed? What do you think?
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I don't know. It'll be interesting. I mean, I think he definitely had some of the right answers. It's clear that that Donald Trump has talked to all of his nominees. You know, he learned his lesson from the first administration and he said, I'm going to get my people and I'm going to make sure my people understand my agenda. I thought RFK's answer about abortion was very interesting because he is pro-choice on the record. But he said, no, we should not federally fund this. I found that very fascinating that he fully supports Trump's vision. And I hope he sticks to that because there are some ideas that RFK Jr. has that are very Democrat.
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Yeah, I know. It's going to be super interesting to watch all this. And then also Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel had their confirmation hearings as well. And I just saw a little bit of that. Tulsi Gabbard is just, she's a real, I'd say a cool cucumber. She just is. Yeah.
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And again, just like RFK Jr., I think the veil is being lifted about how dangerous our national apparatus can be when it can be turned against everyday people. And we first saw it with Trump when the whole thing about him being spied upon by the Obama administration came to light, everybody said, oh, OK, that's kind of worrisome. But then I saw her her beginning speech when she said, hey, I was listed on this. I was I was as soon as I started not walking lockstep with the Democrat Party, they turned national apparatus against me. And that's dangerous for everybody. And that should really strike a fear in the heart of every American. Hey, if this can be turned against these politicians, don't kid yourself that can be turned against us as well.
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Absolutely. And yes, definitely. And So to get this whole thing turned back, we truly, I believe we are in the third founding of our country. And asking who we're really going to be. And I know that you are stepping forward to do some things about that. So we'll talk about that in a little bit. Let's get over here, though, next to our quote of the day. And this is on Fridays. As you know, I go to the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center is located there. in Pueblo, Colorado, and one of the things that they do is they honor our Medal of Honor recipients. They have their Portraits of Valor, which they are absolutely fabulous portraits with these quotes of our Medal of Honor recipients, and that's over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients. Today's quote, and you can get that book by going to AmericanValueCenter.org, is from Charles S. Kettles. And he was born in 1930. He died in 2019. This was action taken during the Vietnam War, May 15, 1967. And it is a long citation, so I'm going to read part of it, and I'm going to have you read part of it. Okay, Alan? I'll read the first part. It says, Major Charles S. Kettles distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity while serving as flight commander, 176th Aviation Company, which is Air Mobile Light, the 14th Combat Aviation Battalion, Americal Division near Dufo, Republic of Vietnam. On 15 May 1967, Major Kettles, upon learning that an airborne infantry unit had suffered casualties during an intense firefight with the enemy, immediately volunteered to lead a flight of six UH-1D helicopters to carry reinforcements to the embattled force and to evacuate wounded personnel. Enemy small arms, automatic weapons, and mortar fire raked the landing zone, inflicting heavy damage to the helicopters. However, major kettles refused to depart until all helicopters were loaded to capacity. He then returned to the battlefield with full knowledge of the intense enemy fire awaiting his arrival to bring more reinforcements, landing in the midst of enemy mortar and automatic weapons fire that seriously wounded his gunner and severely damaged his aircraft. Upon departing, Major Kettles was advised by another helicopter crew that he had fuel streaming out of his aircraft. Despite the risk posed by the leaking fuel, he nursed the damaged aircraft back to base. Later that day, the infantry battalion commander requested immediate emergency extraction of the remaining 40 troops, including four members of Major Kettle's unit who were stranded when their helicopter was destroyed by enemy fire.
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With only one flyable UH-1 helicopter remaining, Major Kettles volunteered to return to the deadly landing zone for a third time, leading a flight of six evacuation helicopters, five of which were from the 161st Aviation Company. During the extraction, Major Kettles was informed by the last helicopter that all personnel were on board and departed the landing zone accordingly. Army gunships supported the evacuation also departed the area. Once airborne, Major Kettles was advised that eight troops had been unable to reach the evacuation helicopters due to the intense enemy fire. With complete disregard for his own safety, Major Kettles passed the lead to another helicopter and returned to the landing zone to rescue the remaining troops. Without gunship, artillery, or tactical aircraft support, the enemy concentrated all firepower on his lone aircraft, which was immediately damaged by a mortar round that shattered both front windshields and the chin bubble and was further raked by small arms and machine gun fire. Despite the intense enemy fire, Major Kettles maintained control of the aircraft and situation, allowing time for the remaining eight soldiers to board the aircraft. In spite of the severe damage to his helicopter, Major Kettles once more skillfully guided his heavily damaged aircraft to safety. Without his courageous actions and superior flying skills, the last group of soldiers and his crew would never have made it off the battlefield. Major Kettles' selfless acts of repeated valor and determination are in keeping of the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the United States Army.
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I got chills on that.
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I mean, that's pretty remarkable. And, you know, it's interesting how many of these are both courage and skill and knowing that, you know, they highlight it here at the end. He skillfully guided his heavily damaged helicopter. It's that combination of not reckless courage, but knowing courage, right? Knowing that I have the ability to do this and I'm going to do it.
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It's absolutely remarkable. But training, practice, hard work, all those things come into the skill and the courage. So pretty remarkable. And I recommend that you get the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values at AmericanValuesCenter.org. And this is his quote. He said, there is no price too high for an individual to pay that contributes to the preservation of this great nation. So that is our quote of the day. And then the other thing I wanted to hit was our bill of the day. Where did I put that? Oh, here we go. It is I didn't put the number on that. It is the prohibition of cultivated meat. And Representative Ty Winter and Senator Rod Pelton are sponsors of that. And I appreciate the spirit of protecting our beef industry because certainly it has been under attack, and that's real beef. And so this is prohibiting fake beef, basically. I understand it. But at Cut, we ended up taking a no position on this. And it really is that freedom answer. And we were mixed on the issue between the free market and possible health risks. But ultimately, our position came down to let the free market regulate this industry. Because if we start to have government prohibit things, then they may get to the point where they may prohibit the things that we like as well, right?
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Exactly. You know, and this was the other interesting highlight from that RFK Jr. hearing, actually. He said, hey, if you want to buy McDonald's, that's fine. But let's allow the freedom of information so that the consumer knows what they're getting. Right. He said, if you buy a cheeseburger from McDonald's, you should know how that's going to impact your health. And I think. that's what CUT is saying here. Hey, we don't want the government telling us what we can and can't have. But at the same time, there should be something telling us, hey, this is what you're getting. And everyone should understand that this beyond meat, all the additives, all the fillers that it has, it has a lot. And it is concerning what it could actually do to your health. And As a longtime beef supporter, I mean, my father-in-law is a meat processor, so I definitely lucked out on the family there to marry into that. But there's great health benefits in beef, and the fact that this industry is under attack is pretty sad.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, shouldn't have to force people to do it. Show comes to you because of all of your support as well as our great sponsors. And thank you to the Harris family. for their goal sponsorship of the show. They've been with us a long time and really appreciate them. Alan Thomas, my friend, is in studio. He's an author here at the Kim Munson Show. And pleased to have on the line Rich Guggenheim. He is with Gays Against Groomers. And I want to get his title close to correct. He's the national director or liaison on all legislative stuff. Give me the official title, Rich Guggenheim.
SPEAKER 08 :
He became its director of legislation.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was close, but it's for the complete country, right? Yep. Okay. Well, you're a little busy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I just looked at the numbers yesterday. We're tracking 336 bills in 32 states right now, plus we've got about a handful of them now we're working on federally. Wow. Plus a lot of executive orders now.
SPEAKER 04 :
So just quickly, before we get into the issue we wanted to talk with you about, what do you think about everything that Donald Trump is doing?
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I think it's great. But, you know, I was just talking the other day, I was talking with some people. This is the practice game. This is not the real stuff yet. To secure these freedoms, we have to do it. through the legislative process, and ultimately a lot of these issues come down to states' rights. And so we are going to have to fight to codify this legislatively at the state level in every single state and states like Colorado that don't want to play and protect girls' sports and protect children from being mutilated. We're going to have to sue them in court. We're going to just have to go the litigation route.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So with that, you speak of legislation. Colorado, I think, Rich Guggenheim, is at the tip of the spear on much of this. And so Monday, there's a bill that's going to be run that you are very concerned about.
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I am, yes. Monday at the Capitol, if people can show up, I would appreciate that. It's the LGBT Lobby Day at the Capitol hosted by One Colorado, and Representative Lorena Garcia intends to introduce what she is calling the Transgender Bill of Rights. And I'm very concerned about that because when I look at what transgender rights really means, it means compelled speech. It means stripping women, females, of their right to privacy and safety and fairness in sports. It strips parents of their rights. In fact, there's a couple of bills that they're running right now that creates an interstate compact for Colorado to bring in foster care children into Colorado where they can receive gender-affirming care. So I have huge concerns about that. It compels, like I said, it really comes down to stripping children of their freedom to grow up and live happy, healthy lives because we enshrine protections and to law to allow them access to these things. And, you know, children at that age don't have the logic center of the brain developed. They can't make these life altering decisions and understand the complications and the consequences of doing something like this. So I'm deeply concerned about this.
SPEAKER 04 :
What's that bill number on that? Rich Guggenheim, do you have that at your fingertips?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't have it at my fingertips. Are you talking about the ones for the foster care bill? So the foster care bill is a different one then? The foster care are two new ones that just got introduced, and I do not have the bill at the fingertips on those. And then the transgender bill of rights, they're keeping that under lock and seal because they're having a big press conference on Monday, too. display it to the public.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So there's the strategies in all this. And you think the sponsor, do you think you know who the sponsor is on that again?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's for Reyna Garcia.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Okay. So what's going to happen? When you and I were texting each other back and forth, you said you need to clone yourself. Why do you need to clone yourself?
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Well, so Monday morning while that's going on, Monday morning in Wyoming is also two bills that I've been working on. with a legislator up there and these bills will ban children from participating or viewing in adult cabaret style shows with purient intent. That's a fancy way of saying banning children from being able to view or participate in drag shows. And we're also going to make it so that libraries are not, school libraries are not allowed to and schools are not allowed to distribute material with adult content or sexual content and graphic content to children. I believe that schools and libraries and schools and classrooms and schools should be places that are educational. And this is not a way to protect a child's innocence. This is not about being inclusive. This is about making sure that they're learning and they're not being exposed to subjects. and content that they simply cannot process at that age. We shouldn't be sexualizing children. We shouldn't be indoctrinating children. We should be educating children.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what do you say, Rich Guggenheim, when you are accused of book banning?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, first of all, my thought is that's ironic coming from people who try to silence me for simply saying that we should protect children's innocence. This isn't about book banning. If you want to allow your child to read that kind of stuff, you can take them to the local bookstore and you can buy that book for them and you can check it out at the local library. Like I said, this is just about schools. So this isn't a book ban. This is literally saying children do not need to be exposed to pornography.
SPEAKER 04 :
You think? Yeah, I think that's true. And when these images are impressed upon their brains, that's a lifelong thing. And those that are pushing this agenda, they know that, Rich Guggenheim. They know what they're doing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. And they know that this opens up the doors to other things. It normalizes certain types of behavior. And I think it's done on purpose because I believe at the end of the day, this is what they want to do is they want to desensitize our children to this type of material because it makes it so that they become easier victims for child sex predators.
SPEAKER 04 :
So that brings up this one other thing that you mentioned. Many years ago, I was on the board of Lutheran Family Services. And I joined the board because I'd seen a very successful adoption process. The other things, they were in the foster care business, the refugee resettlement. That's a whole other subject. But as I learned so much about our foster children, our foster kids really are at risk. And what I am hearing with this foster bill that's going to be coming down the pike here is these kids, I think, are going to be real victims because you really need to have adults that are standing in the gap for these children. And if, in fact, we're going to be bringing foster children into Colorado to push the trans agenda,
SPEAKER 08 :
um this is really heartbreaking to me um rich guggenheim it is to me too and you know i'll tell you what breaks my heart about it is last year they already passed i believe it was house bill 1017 that really infringed upon the freedoms of foster parents you know you're not allowed to basically parent and guide those children in any kind of way. You're just basically there to rephrase what Representative Brian Titone said. You're basically there to just provide a shelter for those children and to warehouse them for the state. And I just, you know, this is what we've basically done is we've dehumanized these children under the guise of being inclusive. And this is wrong. These are children, a lot of times they come from situations where there's a lot of dysfunction in the house. They're dealing with some sort of emotional trauma and they need guidance and they need nurturing and they need those parents that can help teach them right from wrong. And this is just, to me, the fact that we're taking vulnerable children And it's literally, in my opinion, it's predatory. And it is a form of human trafficking because we're bringing them across state lines. And then we're going to send them off to some medical clinic where they're going to be mutilated and sterilized under the idea of being inclusive and affirming.
SPEAKER 04 :
Rich Guggenheim, if you would have in the old days said an enemy comes into the town and they say, hey, give me your kids. We're going to cut off the girl's breasts, cut off the boy's penises. We would say that is barbaric. But that is exactly what is happening right now in our society. And I thank you for stepping forward, stepping into the gap on this. I know you can use help because you're traveling around doing a variety of things. How can people help you, Rich Guggenheim?
SPEAKER 08 :
If they want to help, they can always go to our website, gaysagainstgroomers.com, and they can donate. The other thing, Kim, I'll just say this. We need people to step up and fight for their children. If you don't have time to step up and fight to protect your children at the Capitol, you're going to have to find time later to step up and fight for them in court because the state is coming for your children. And I'm not speaking hyperbolically. I really believe that we're going to see a lot more of that with this Transgender Bill of Rights. If you don't want to speak and testify, just show up to support those who do. And I'll tell you, Kim, if you've ever been at the Capitol, it's a dark place. It's spiritually draining because this is spiritual warfare. If you're one of the people who believe in prayer, please come to the Capitol and pray. Pray for the people who are making these decisions. Pray for the people who are speaking. and testifying because this is something that requires a lot of energy and it is like i said it's a spiritual warfare and it is emotionally spiritually and physically exhausting to be in the capital well rich guggenheim thank you for stepping into the gap on this i greatly appreciate it and we will need to get an update again very soon so thank you thank you kim have a great weekend
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Indeed, it is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out my website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. It's Friday, Mike. you might treat yourself to a lunch, a lunch special at Hooters Restaurants. They have wonderful specials Monday through Friday, and they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. So give them a call or check out their website and just treat yourself to lunch today on one of those great specials. Alan Thomas, we've got a lot to talk about. So you are an author here at The Kim Munson Show, and you are running... You're running for an office. And I actually got an email from someone that is endorsing you. And they had a great description of much of the work that you've done with us and your essays, which are awesome. So tell us a little bit about this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, Kim, I have to also say thank you to you for giving me complete editorial control over everything that I do. I know sometimes I kind of surprise you with some of the content, but we always have good conversations. But yeah, I'm running for first vice chair for the Douglas County GOP and, you know, one of the One of the things that we're severely lacking in our country is civic education. And that's what I try and get across a lot on the show is not only talking about, but also trying to teach these foundational principles to people that are receptive to them, but also maybe to sometimes people who aren't. You know, I had that piece, Accidental Conservatives, about Taylor Swift in some of the Disney movies of, you know, hey, there's a fundamental truth to what we believe in. And when we just talk about that truth, it's going to come through and we're slowly going to start to win people over. So, and you know, when I first started the show, you always called me a millennial, right? That was something I always kind of pushed back on. But, you know, when you look at a lot of The GOP in Colorado, there's a severe lack of millennial involvement. And a lot of that is the infighting. A lot of that is just not creating an atmosphere that's welcoming to millennials. And we're going to be the next generation of leadership. And if we don't start bringing those people into our party, if we don't start bringing the next generations in and teaching them and influencing them, we're going to be in a world of hurt here in Colorado. And we already are.
SPEAKER 04 :
I am seeing a number of young millennial men particularly and I really think that the straight The Caucasian millennial man has been at the bottom of the food chain, if you will, on so many different things. And I think that it's been very refreshing from what I've seen looking outside in. Joe Rogan has been really influential, I think, in this particular arena. And, of course, apparently, Barron Trump had recommended to Donald Trump – to go on the Joe Rogan show. And you can't hide in a three-hour interview. I think that's why Kamala Harris didn't do it. But I think that there are forces out there that are moving towards Our conservative preserving our ideas, this idea of America that we're all created equal with rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And I really think that we can coalesce around those ideas. We just have to be able to communicate them.
SPEAKER 14 :
We do. And that's part of what's going on in the GOP here in Colorado is this purity litmus test, right? This inability to influence people and persuade them and instead beat them over the head with a stick and say, you're not doing good enough. You're not part of us. You are a rhino. And that's ineffective at getting our message out because like you said, it's not persuasive. And And we're seeing a return to virtue, and that's something we've talked about a lot, these three civic virtues of self-assertion, self-restraint, and self-reliance. And we're starting to see the Joe Rogans, the other straight white males say, no, I need to assert myself. I need to step out here because if I'm not willing to stand up for myself, how can I expect my kids to stand up for themselves? Mm-hmm. And how am I supposed to protect my children if I'm unable or unwilling to speak up and protect those who need to be protected? So, you know, it's returning to that. And that's some of the brilliance of what Donald Trump is doing in these first two weeks is this self-assertion. And one of the first things I talked about was the rhetoric involved in a lot of his executive orders is quite honestly brilliant. Um, you know, we talked about, uh, gays against groomers with rich Guggenheim and, and one of the executive orders that is just a rhetorical masterpiece is his, uh, defending women from gender ideological extremism and restoring biological truth to the federal government. And we can't highlight this enough. Like the, the fact that he said biological truth, uh, The fact that you can't escape from truth and that he's restoring it and he's protecting people from their ideology extremism can't be highlighted enough. It can't be highlighted enough that we are not the party of extremes. We're the party of normal. I love that.
SPEAKER 04 :
The party of normal extremism.
SPEAKER 14 :
We are. I mean, the fact that we have to have an executive order saying men are men, women are women, and you can't pretend to be one or the other shows us how far we've gone as a culture. But it also should give us Republicans the ability to assert ourselves in the public sphere and say, you know what? Enough is enough. We're playing by the left's rules. We're not going to do it any longer. We're not going to bend our our language to make you happy. We're going to start speaking truth, and we're going to start standing up and saying, enough is enough. What we say is right, and I'm not going to be scared to assert myself anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, Alan, one of the things, and you mentioned this, and this is where I've struggled. You mentioned the purity test, and What is and as the president of CUT and also even before and when I was on city council, I really think that there were those that were on city council at that time in Douglas County. You had to have an R behind your name to get elected. But when I got on to city council, I saw an agenda regarding the transit, regarding these apartment buildings. You can look at Lone Tree and you can see the World Economic Forum agenda with all of these apartment buildings and transit. And so I was scratching my head because I thought people were honest if they said they were Republican, that they adhered to these this big picture values of our country. But yet and it's on both sides of the aisle. But I really think that there are some people and I see even down at the legislature with a few Republicans, they are pushing a. A Democrat agenda. And you can kind of look at the money. Some of them have been supported by Kent Theory, who he really wants to mess with our elections. So I'm struggling with that because when I look at legislation, they're doing Democrat stuff. So what do we do about that?
SPEAKER 14 :
One of the things you've kind of one of the one of your rules that you've kind of had for a long time is you'll call out actions, not people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that's what cut does is, you know, when we were talking about this prohibition on cultivated meat, you talked about the bill and why the bill is a bad idea. Instead of talking about, oh, we have representatives who have absolutely abandoned us. They must be rhinos. They don't stand for conservatism at all. You're calling out the bill, which is absolutely the right way to go about it. Okay. Is calling out the actions and attacking the ideas and saying, here's why this idea may not necessarily fall in line. Here's the danger of this idea, as opposed to calling out the person. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, I got it. I got it. And I have to say the two sponsors on that bill are representatives that I my experience with them has really been that they were really work to do the right thing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Ty Winter and Rod Pelton are I mean. They're in a very thankless position right now in Colorado. And they propose a lot of good bills. But like you said, this bill may not be one of them. Because again, if you're giving the permission for the state to say no to one thing, you're opening up the doors. Which is ironically the second part of the article I talk about is the executive orders and national emergencies.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. And Alan Thomas is in studio. And we are going to be, within the next six to eight weeks, rolling out something that's going to be super great. You and I are going to be working together on that. So we'll keep that as a teaser. But you are running for an office on the Douglas County GOP website. And when is that election? Tell us just a little bit more about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Monday. So it'll be Monday, February 3rd. I think credentialing starts at 5, so make sure and get there early. It's supposed to start at 6, but as you know, on those sorts of things, the start time is kind of dependent on how quickly they can check people in. So running for first vice chair, so the roles of that is communication. which fits pretty well into the wheelhouse here, but then also fundraising.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And who can vote?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's precinct committee people, district captains, assistant district captains, and then elected officials within the county. So you should have gotten a... a call to order if you are allowed to vote in that. And then at that, you're electing the Douglas County officers, but then also district captains. So, you know, holding your district captains accountable and making sure that they're doing what's right by the party as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So, well, good luck on that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, thank you very much, Kim.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, let's finish. Well, we won't finish this up. We'll have our teaser for your essay that we will feature in the email this week and on the website. So let's talk a little bit more about it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and you know, Rich actually kind of had a pretty good lead in on it as well about the fact that some of these executive orders are good, but the work's not done, right? And this is one thing we've now seen twice within four years is a president come into office and use executive order to completely obliterate all of the work that was done. You know, Joe Biden on day one basically said, hey, I'm going to take all of Trump's first term and write all of his executive orders away. And appropriately, Trump did the same this time around. But like Rich said, that's not good enough. This ruling by executive order, this massive transition in the direction of our government isn't healthy for citizens. It's not healthy for us on the international stage. And so Trump and the Republicans in Congress really need to sit down and do some quick work like they've shown with the bill that they've already passed. But they need to codify a lot of these executive orders through Congress, do it the right way, do it the long-term way. And the Republicans in Congress need to get behind a lot of these actions and support it, which we've seen a lot of. We've seen a lot more support from Congress than we saw that first term of Trump's, where Congress in large part fought Trump. But this second time around, I think these representatives and senators are seeing, hey, I'm in my position now because of President Trump, because of his vision, because people are saying, we need that, we want that. And so they need to be motivated, especially these first two years, to really codify these executive orders into the congressional go through the bill process and do it the right way that way when the pendulum swings again whether that's in four years or eight years or hopefully longer but when another progressive democrat gets in office they can't just use the pen in the office of president to completely change the course of our country
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think this is an opportunity for congressmen and women senators to make the case, as you mentioned, to stay on these issues. So regarding these deportations, they've been pretty amazing to watch. But the immigration system is broken. They say all the time the immigration system is broken. We can fix it. But many times they don't want to make the hard decisions because they want to get reelected. I think that they can actually make the case for the good idea, and I would encourage them to have the courage to do so.
SPEAKER 14 :
And this is where we as citizens can come into play and say, listen, you need to do this. This is why I voted you in. I voted you in to support this idea that Trump is saying around immigration. You need to fix this. This is why we voted you in. And really show your elected representatives, hey – The reason you're going to get voted in in two years or in six years for senators is because you're going to do the hard work and do the change and do the things that may not that you don't think is popular. So basically, we need to show our elected representatives it is popular. It is a path to reelection. And we need to support them in that and use our voice to say, hey, I want you to get after this. I want you to do that. I want you to, you know, instead of Donald Trump needing to declare a national emergency around energy or around the southern border, I don't want the executive to have so much power that they declared national emergencies just to do their job. This is something Congress should say, OK, this is popular. This national emergency around energy is popular. We need to make sure that the next president can't undo what we are currently doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
And absolutely. And that makes me, I had a headline here that I had wanted to mention to you. This was climate change overestimated. New data shows oceans are cooling the planet faster than predicted. And so we can get into this battle of idea. Of course, I should mention A Climate Conversation. That's a great segue for the documentary that Walt Johnson, it was his vision and he financed. Because I think people are realizing reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy allows us to power our lives, fuel our hopes and dreams. And I have a new one, Alan. I don't know if you've heard this. We can change our own personal climate. We can be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I love that because between my two kids, they have very different climates that they appreciate in their rooms. So...
SPEAKER 04 :
That is funny. But we're going to focus on the issues. The other thing, though, is it's almost like they are just flooding the zone here in Colorado. So with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And we'd really encourage that you join us. We've got something very exciting, I think, that's going to happen here quite very soon. So join us. It's only $25. But as of this morning, we have a total of 266 bills that are proposed. That's flooding the zone. How do we keep track of that? One of the first things is be a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. But they're flooding the zone on this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and that's one of the things, again, I think the county party should be doing a better job of is helping educate Republican voters throughout the county, throughout the state and saying we have such great resources. You know what what cut does, what you do on the show, what our representatives do. You know, most of the representatives have their own newsletter saying, here's what we're trying to do. You know, we have the Independence Institute pushing out stuff. It's getting these resources into the hands of Republican voters saying, hey, you know, talk to your friends, talk to your neighbors, talk to your coworkers and show them this is the crazy that's going on at the statehouse. This is the stuff going on. that forces you to have to be involved. You know, a lot of times people say, I don't want to be involved in politics. It's messy. It's like, well, yeah, it is messy. And it's even more messy when you don't get involved, when you don't speak up, when you don't use your voice. And our ideas aren't crazy. All right. We're the party of yes. We want to say yes to so much freedom, to allowing you to live your life, to get the out and into its proper role. And we need to allow Republican voters the strength and the opportunity to say, hey, you know, this is what they're doing. This isn't right. This doesn't make sense. Can we just do things that make sense?
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think that's the way that we will bring unaffiliated voters into the fold, because I think we can can coalesce around this this idea of freedom, liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. This is a great piece that you've written and spot on. I wish you a lot of great. Now you're going to stay for the next hour.
SPEAKER 14 :
I will. Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, so stay for our number two. So just 45 seconds. Wrap it up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, Kim, you know, it's kind of funny. The last bit of the article is about how he talked about the forgotten Alaska. So make sure and read the article. Read what he's trying to do with that and the renaming of Mount McKinley. And, you know, just this is our opportunity. We have some momentum here. Let's seize it. Let's use it. And don't be scared to use your voice. Be out there and make sure and support your representatives and your senators and really – back them because they're doing a pretty thankless job down there at the Capitol. And as we well know, you know, negative comments linger in your mind a lot longer than positive ones. And we really need to flood the zone of their inboxes saying, keep up the good work, keep fighting the fight, keep up with those late nights down at the Capitol trying to oppose these horrible, awful bills. And we have your back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Most definitely. So Alan Thomas, thank you. Thank you for the work that you're doing. And our quote for the end of the show, I went to Thucydides, a Greek philosopher. He said this, happiness depends on being free and freedom depends on being courageous. So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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Okay. I know. What did you say? Alan Thomas is in studio. We were talking about that in between breaks. You said, what's this about a software update?
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Well, that's awesome. I love the fact that Crawford Broadcasting, independent broadcasting company, is working to keep us right on the forefront. And did you see this? I got to see if I find there had been George Soros apparently had purchased a bunch of radio stations. And had you seen that by any chance?
SPEAKER 14 :
I haven't, but it doesn't sound surprising whatsoever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and he did this, oh, gosh, probably back in 2024. And he – here we go. This is New York Post. This is September 30, 2024. He purchased Odyssey radio stations. And, of course, that's really of great concern. And – So anyway, my point is, is it's great to have some independent broadcasters out there, Alan Thomas.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is. And isn't it funny that when a Democrat progressive supporter buys stations, nothing's said, but heaven forbid, if Elon Musk buys Twitter and says, Hey, I'll allow people to talk, you know, the whole left goes crazy that, that these mega billionaires are buying up communication waves and, and Internet and all of this. And it's like, you know what? There seems to be a double standard here that is difficult to get around. And, you know, we talked about the things Trump was doing in his first couple of weeks. What about him opening up the press room to a lot of the smaller news outlets and the independent news outlets? That was pretty amazing.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is pretty amazing. And I saw this on one of the evening shows. And this is from the Post Millennial. But it says a radio station owned by George Soros reported the live locations of undercover immigration customs and enforcement agents operating in San Jose, California, an area known for violent gang activity. And it says the incident occurred on January 26th when KCBS 740 AM reported. Radio host Brett Burkhardt, let's see if I can get to the rest of this here, had actually warned about these ICE raids. And you didn't see that on the mainstream media, did you?
SPEAKER 14 :
Nope, nope. But, you know, one of the things I'm loving about the new... secretary of position, I forget his name, but he's basically saying, nope, we're going to come after these violent criminals. And I mean, we saw it right away here in Colorado. All of a sudden, hey, we're going to go get these guys that are invading apartments. And we saw that within the first week. I mean, what an incredible testament to Trump going out, getting the people that will support his vision and also enforce the rule of law. It does have consequences when the president is able to say, I have this authority by Congress given to me, and I'm going to use it. And it just shows how awful President Biden and Obama were in saying, no, I'm not going to do my just duty.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right. And I've got the rest of the story here. This was KCBS 740 AM radio host Brett Burkhart described the unmarked vehicles being used by ICE in the exact locations where ICE agents have been operating. Just think how that really puts them into danger. And he was relaying information posted to social media by the Rapid Response Network, a leftist group that fights deportation initiatives. News Nation confirmed on January 27 that ICE was conducting operations in the area at that time, meaning the host potentially blew the agent's cover and put them in danger. That's unconscionable.
SPEAKER 14 :
It truly is. And again, one of the sentences that Biden commuted was an individual that came up and shot law enforcement officers, point blank. So, you know, it's no surprise that the left is against our law enforcement community. And we really need to come alongside them and say, no, we support the rule of law. We support you protecting our communities.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And so we'll stay on top of some of these stories that you're not hearing out there every place else. Two things. Our word of the day is juxtaposition. J-U-X-T-A-P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N. It means the act or instance of placing two or more things side by side, often to compare or contrast. And then our quote of the day was from our Medal of Honor speaker. quote book from the Center for American Values. And I'd like to share this. This came in from Dave, who is a retired United States Air Force. He said, and what you and I did, and you can hear this in the one to two hour. He said, your Medal of Honor segment today was incredible. That kind of valor is, well, I cannot find the word to describe it. I'll be buying the book, making donation and visiting the center soon. Yours is an exceptional show. Long overdue donation is coming to you as well. Tears. As I write, I was close to tears as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
It really is. And I love being here on Fridays when we can read the Medal of Honor citations and really hear about these courageous men and women who truly have put their lives on the line for our freedoms.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's important to keep these stories alive and honor them. And that's why I so appreciate the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado. And definitely put it on your bucket list to visit them. And a day that you might want to do that is February 12th, a Wednesday. beginning at 4 p.m. They will be doing an On Values presentation with Drew, founder of the Center for American Values. He was stationed in Greenland for a number of years. The title of the A presentation is The Real Cold War, which Greenland can be a little cold. And so you might want to check that out at AmericanValueCenter.org. You mentioned it's Friday. So what that means, it's Jim May Friday. It's Lavaca Meat Company Friday. Jim May, cattleman with Lavaca Meat. Welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, good morning, Kim. And is that Alan Thomas? I hear his voice behind you. Is that right?
SPEAKER 04 :
That is Alan. We're missing you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Morning, Jim.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's a Friday, and hopefully we'll hear some poetry here soon, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I'll see what I can do there. So it's been quite a week here, and, you know, this plane crash, and I'm just, gosh. You know, and I was listening to your show. I was telling Joe, I was in my workout room on the treadmill listening to your show, and really liking that stuff that you just talked about, of course, about the Army and everything. Yeah. I just, yeah, these people that are being interviewed for the cabinet, they've been really interesting to watch. You know, I'm in and out on them. I'm kind of like you guys. I can't stare. I watch them all the time. I get a lot of the, but awfully good people, I think, around the president and his cabinet this time. And I'm glad to see the debate out there. I'm glad to see the strength of this man to just stand up and say where he's at. There's transparency in everything that we're seeing, which is really refreshing. I don't know. We had this plane crash two or three months ago. They probably said, we don't know anything. We can't say anything, blah, blah, blah. You feel like we, the people, are getting the information now. The new press secretary, I think, is amazing. And I'm just excited about this. I'm probably saying too much. Let's talk a little bit about meat, Kim.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let's do. And Lavaca Meat Company is a great protein source for your diet, but it tastes really good as well. And if people use the word buffalo and they're in at Lavaca Meat Company, they'll get 10% off, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, we're going to do that running right up to the Super Bowl here now. And, you know, I hope maybe somebody wanted a Super Bowl party. My son does a slider thing. He just takes the Hawaiian buns and cuts them horizontally. And I think he's got the recipe, but he ends up cooking the meat a little bit, and he rolls the meat out in a flat thing. And he cooks his hamburger, and he slides it onto those buns, puts a little cheese, and does each one differently. So it's just one big piece of bread, puts the top on, puts the cheese in, and sticks them back in. He bakes the meat for another two or three minutes, and then you just take them out, cut them up, and you've got sliders for everybody.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yum.
SPEAKER 10 :
Full deal. Maybe I could put that out on your little line on the show there, on your website.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that would be great. We could put that in the show summary. And, again, Lavaca Meat Company is located at the corner of Main and Nevada. And the website is lavacameat.com, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right on, yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Do you have a poem for us?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, so I really haven't written anything. I'm trying to get all these into my head. And I just got a couple calls on my phone. So this is going to be – I'm hoping it's in my head by now. I wrote – you know what I'm going to do is I'm going to make a, another poetry book. And then next week is Superbowl Sunday. And that's my first time on the show was the Friday before Superbowl.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have been here one whole year. Yay. Anniversary.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Been here one year doing this stuff. And, uh, I've written quite a few poems about holidays, as you know, and everything else. How much time do we have? I wanted to do this poem about woke is a joke, if I can still... Yep, do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let's do it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm going to try it. I don't know if it's in my head yet, but I refuse to be... Let me say, woke is a joke. Let me think about it for just a second. I refuse to be run over today by the left wing's latest fad. I might be judged by what I say, but I'm not woke, so that's too bad. I mostly mind my own business. I'm as tolerant as any man, but I'm not going to drink a Bud Light with a drag queen on the can. I've been farming and ranching for 50 years. I'm not going to play their game. Coors and Corona are pretty good beers. At least they haven't gone insane. This whole world is just upside down. This whole world is just upside down. I'm sorry, guys. I don't have this, and I'm imagining the phone rang, and I don't have it in front of me. I think the whole world now is upside down, and I can't believe my own two eyes. Joe Biden resigned. He's such a clown. Look out. Here comes a pack of lies. They say they want to save the democracy. I guess if he quits, that's a pretty good start. They don't even need a primary. Everybody knows he's really not that smart. Kamala will be their choice. It's her turn to wear the crown. The mainstream media will be her voice. You know, she never got one vote the first time around. I hope they get... Let's see. She was elected because of DEI. Diversity, equity, and inclusion. Her race and her gender will catch your eye, but the rest is just an illusion. I hope we get this figured out right. Because this is really no time to joke. Today, I will drink a cold Coors Light, and may the good Lord help you if you're woke. And guys... I did not look at any paper on that. And my quest is to have all these things in my head and memorized. And sometimes when you're talking to a lot of people on the radio or you're in a big ballroom or something, you know, they've got to be burned in there pretty good, kind of like the Pledge of Allegiance or something. I get it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I get it.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that's going to be the fun part. I'll put that book out and different things. Enjoy your weekend. I really like your show, and Alan, I see eye to eye with about everything you're saying, too. I should have been in the studio today, I guess.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, did you get snow? That was the other thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
We got a little skiff of snow out here. The ranch is, Kiowa got six to eight inches, I'm told, by my ranch manager, Mark.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 10 :
So we're still in winter.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we are. Although I was on a walk the other night, and I kind of could smell early spring. So I think spring is right around the corner. Jim May, have a great week. We'll talk to you next week.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, guys, you too. And everybody have a great week, and we'll see you next time. Thanks.
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SPEAKER 04 :
It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And I got so busy reading the text from Dave regarding our Medal of Honor quote, that we shared earlier in hour number one with the citation of Charles S. Kettles, that I didn't give you the quote of the day. And he said this, he said, there is no price too high for an individual to pay that contributes to the preservation of this great nation. And beautiful, just absolutely beautiful. Alan Thomas, I'm so pleased that you've stayed for hour number two. It all goes so fast.
SPEAKER 14 :
It truly does. We need like four or five hours.
SPEAKER 04 :
That we do. We could do the Joe Rogan, Kim Munson show. And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of these great sponsors that we're on the air and pleased to have on the line with me, Dr. Jill Vecchio. And she and I and Molly Vogt were together at the very beginning of all this. So, Dr. Jill Vecchio, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, thanks again for having me, Kim. Good morning, everybody. Good afternoon, I guess, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it will. Yes, it'll be good evening when we rebroadcast this in the 10 to 11 hour tonight. And yes, we all started many years ago together just talking about I remember we looked at each other. We said, what are we going to talk about on that Sunday afternoon show? So we decided to talk about health care and then go through the Declaration and the Constitution. We all learned a lot on that, Dr. Jill.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, we really did. And you think about we studied Supreme Court decisions. We went through the Constitution phrase by phrase. And the declaration. I mean, it was an amazing learning experience. It took us a year and a half to get through it. And that was just a great time that I thoroughly enjoyed.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that was back in 2013, I think, when we started that. I think 14. Was it 14?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so you're still watching health care, Dr. Jill Vecchio. And I thought, let's talk about health care. That hasn't really been an issue that we've talked a lot about on the national stage lately. But it is very important to people. And, of course, Obamacare moving us towards socialized medicine. We do have a... bill down at the Colorado State House that's doing an analysis on a government-run health care system here in Colorado. So they're not giving up. And, of course, Colorado's the petri dish for trying all this stuff out. So what's the macro view on health care right now, Dr. Joe Vacchio?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and it's funny. I just watched all three and a half hours plus of the Senate confirmation hearings with RFK Jr. I watched that last night. Really interesting. I don't know if they've had the vote on him or not. They were voting on something, but I'm not sure. Anyway, yeah, so now health care is going to come back into focus, I think, because the Republicans have an opportunity to right the ridiculous wrong that they did the last time they had full control of the White House and both houses of Congress. So hopefully they will do the right thing this time. But a lot of change needs to happen. And I think RFK Jr. is the perfect person to kind of wake people up to entirely new ideas and ways to approach the overall health care atmosphere in our country. And I think he's willing to do that and anxious to do that. And he's very, very, very knowledgeable, very knowledgeable. I'm always amazed if you do listen to some of those long, more long format podcasts and stuff with him talking about health care. He's very well informed and very bold, not afraid to say what needs to be said or address things that need to be addressed that have been kicked down the road for so long.
SPEAKER 14 :
And Jill, did you see the exchange between RFK Jr. and Bernie Sanders about the, do you have a right to health care? I found RFK Jr.' 's response brilliant.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, the simple answer is absolutely not. Do you have a right to food? Do you have a right to a car? No, because if you had a right to somebody, to a service or some product, that means somebody else would be obligated to pay for it for you. And you don't have a right to take somebody else's money. You don't have a right to somebody else's skills. Period. You don't have that right. It's nowhere in the Constitution that you don't have a right to food, which is more health care and food. Come on. You don't have a right to walk into a grocery store and take whatever you want and walk out. Now, do you? Would anybody claim that they have a right to do that? No. So, yeah, RFK, you know, when he was barely even allowed to get out the word no, you know. And the opposite party always does this to every, you know, Senate confirmation candidate. You know, they use it as some platform to blab and blab and then never let the other person answer or give them some trick question like, have you stopped beating your wife, right? Yes or no, you know. So it's the same kind of a – kind of a joke, theatricals that go on. But I thought he did a very good job when he was allowed to answer. I thought he did a great job. So I was very impressed.
SPEAKER 04 :
So where are we at with health care? He has asserted that we're very unhealthy and that we want to make America healthy again. And so where are we on? And all these pharmaceuticals, of course, many of the shows, that is all it is, is basically pharmaceuticals that they're advertising.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, exactly. And what are the most common pharmaceuticals? Diabetic care. and uh autoimmune disease and you know all of that yeah so the the things that rfk jr described as the biggest problems so obesity diabetes type 2 and then the the rise in autoimmune and autism and chronic disease the pharmaceutical industry has a unique way of kind of creating issues and then having a chronic medication that you have to take for the rest of your life you know, to deal with it. So you're never off of these things, and we're not encouraging people to live healthy lives. But I think that part of the problem, I mean, government controls a whole lot more of our health care than we realize. Obviously, you know, it started after World War II, but over time, since Medicare and Medicaid came into being, we have a health care system now where the person giving the care, the provider, the the person getting the care are bureaucratically separated by the person paying for the care or the entity paying for the care. That's the problem. If you could realign the entire reimbursement system, the scam of these ridiculous charges, $30 for a Band-Aid, kind of stuff where they charge you $30 for a Band-Aid or they're charging $30 for a Band-Aid, but they only get paid like $0.03 or not at all, right, by the third-party payers. But you don't know what happens in that black box of a $30 Band-Aid all of a sudden is free, right? So it's kind of like that is the scam. I can't imagine that that is really legally okay. certainly ethically and morally, it shouldn't be okay to have this ridiculous lie going on about what health care really costs and who should have to pay what cost, how transparent all of these costs and charges should be, which they should all be completely transparent, and now They're not. Am I making sense? I think people kind of understand a little bit, but I can go into a little more detail. Yeah. I mean, I think, Kim, you understand me. OK, so so just a quick example, if that's OK. Sure. Like, you know, I had I had a surgery. I've had a couple of cancers. I had a surgery and my bill was I got a bill with the charges of ninety one thousand dollars. Okay, I was in the hospital for a couple, $91,000. My insurance company didn't pay it right away. I get a letter from the hospital where I was a physician, actually, and I get a letter from the hospital saying, you're going to have to pay all $91,000 if your insurance doesn't pay this. Well, that's a horrible letter for anybody to get. Who could pay $91,000, right? Just write a check. And so the thing is, it didn't shock me. It made me mad because I already knew what the game was. It turns out my insurance company paid shortly thereafter. Then I get another bill, kind of a notice from the insurance company saying, here was the charge, $91,000. Here's what your insurance paid, $9,100. $9,100, you owe nothing. Now, how did that $91,000 get down to $9,100 and everybody's okay with that? It's because the $91,000 never existed. It's a made-up number. It's fake. That should be illegal. That is a scam. It's a fraud. And every provider pulls this trick. They just charge all this money saying, well, maybe somebody will pay it. The only people that ever have to pay that are the people who don't have money. full coverage health insurance and all this stuff so the insurance companies allow this to happen because they know they're not going to have to pay that number they contract all the time with the way most of the reimbursement stuff that i saw in two cancers multiple surgeries the reimbursement was about 10 percent of what the charge was now if i only had to pay 9 100 for that cancer I could do that if I weren't paying $30,000 a year for health insurance with a $6,000 deductible. You know, if I'm paying a $24,000 plus $6,000 deductible before I can ever even use the health care that I'm paying $24,000 for, I could have paid for three of those surgeries cash, written a check. if I didn't have to pay ridiculously high premiums for health care that I didn't expect to use. Now, that being said, I would have had a catastrophic coverage, catastrophic insurance for that hospitalization, and that would have paid that hospitalization even. So if I had cancer, I'd have insurance for that, but for all the average little things, tell me what it really costs, not... 91,000 or half of 91,000, what are you paying, what are the insurance companies paying you to do this? Because clearly you're happy with that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Ellen, you had a comment?
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And, you know, Dr. Jill, one of the ways my eyes was open to this is we the health provider, we went to actually transition to a direct primary care because he said he spent most of his time coding to charge and bill insurance as opposed to actually seeing patients. And so he switched to a, hey, you pay us a monthly fee and you can come see us however much you want. And it was really nice because one, the care increased. He was able to spend more time with us. But Dr. Jill, to your point, he charged at cost for prescriptions, for blood panels, for blood work. And when we got the bill, every time I was like, oh my goodness, this is how little all of this costs. And I mean, we have pretty good health insurance, uh, through my employer and it's still worth it for me to go to this direct primary care doctor to pay on top of my health insurance, this monthly fee, just so we can pay at cost for all the, all the things that, uh, these primary care doctors have. It's mind blowing.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it, and when it exactly, and I talk about this all the time, that is the basis. And, and, um, RFK Jr. was trying to explain that direct primary care. He mentioned it, I think, three different times. But he was never allowed to expound on it because it's such a wonderful business model that the practitioners of it, a lot of times they even have urgent care services available as well and call services for minor emergencies, which is brilliant. Great for families with kids, the perfect model for Medicaid patients. So all you would need is a catastrophic policy. Now, isn't it sad that your employer wouldn't have doesn't have the option of saying, you know what, if you want to do a direct primary care here, let me just give you the amount of money that I'm paying for you to be to have this insurance. And they should have the option of saying, here, I'm just going to give you this chunk of money, and you can use it for your health insurance. You just have to tell me what you're doing so I can have a record of you're going to have direct primary care with a catastrophic policy. The other problem is who's selling catastrophic policies? who what insurance companies anymore are selling what used to be called major medical or catastrophic policies. And it's not in the insurance company's best interest to do that. No, everybody has to have the Obamacare massive laundry list of mandated coverages, which makes these policies so expensive.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people forward. to do it. Do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation website. And it is so important to Alan Thomas that we honor and remember those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And the official Marine Memorial is right here in Golden, Colorado. And so I think that's a great thing for people to do is to support it.
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And that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Dr. Jill Vecchio is on the line, and we're talking about health care. And, Jill, as you were talking about that you had this surgery, you got a bill for $91,000, which is going to take everybody's breath away, and told if you don't have insurance, you have to pay that. But yet the actual payment was about 10% of that. which seems much more reasonable. But this care that is not, well, my point on this is, and I watch this issue closely regarding Denver Health. where they said that their unpaid health costs will soar to $155 million. This was a report September 17, 2024, from Denver 7, because they wanted to get a 0.5% – actually, hold on here. yeah 0.5 percent no it was a different one it was a little bit less than that to help fund so there was a sales tax increase people voted for it for Denver Health because they're out there saying that they're losing all of this money but I think it's part of maybe this this um you use the word scam but I this this this difference between the two talk to me about that
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and I think I'm going to keep calling it a scam, scam, scam over and over again because it's not morally or ethically fair, right, honest. And, yes, so when – I think there are two reasons why the industry embraces this massive charge thing. Number one is to scare the heck out of people, to scare the hell out of people so that they will think that they cannot – do without total comprehensive health care insurance, health insurance. They have to believe that they could never pay cash. They could never afford health care without having a fully comprehensive policy. And that's where the insurance companies make a ton of money, because they can charge healthy people who take good care of themselves, aren't seeing a doctor, you know, but once in every five years, think of all the money they're accumulating. And not having to pay out. So healthy people are having to pay way too much for health care that they can never even use, never even begin to use because of the high deductibles. And then the sick people are benefiting that people can make bad choices and they're still benefiting. So it's an unfair system in that respect. And especially for the average person. also number two just like you said so these so these facilities and providers can claim that they give free care this much care tax deducted you know that sort of thing that they're giving all of this free care when it's kind of like which which number are you using are you using the charge number because that's going to be in your best interest especially if you want to pass some legislation saying we gave this 150 billion dollars or whatever or a million dollars in free care. Well, sure, Denver General, well, DG, we used to call it Denver General, right? Denver Health. They get very little reimbursement. And most of those patients that show up there, or at least it used to, were cash pay if they paid at all. And then they were stuck with the high charge and expected to pay that. And then we get Congress... you know, and people who are proposing this legislation or single payer health care, they're going to use those big numbers. And they're going to say, look at all these people who went bankrupt because of medical expenses, right? That's because, sure, you're going to go bankrupt if you get a $91,000 bill, when the insurance company for exactly the same thing only had to pay $9,100. Tell me how that's fair. Yeah, you're going to go bankrupt if you're expected to pay that ridiculous charge amount that nobody else has to pay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you see what I'm saying? I do, and I think that's so – it was a 0.34% sales tax increase, which sales tax is regressive because it makes things more expensive. Now, Denver, I don't think, charges sales tax on some food items, but it makes life more expensive for everyone, these people that are trying to keep it together. And that did pass. The affordable housing did not. I was a no on both of those and actually debated – the CEO of Denver Health on this particular issue. And then I debated Mike Johnston, Mayor Mike Johnston, on the affordable housing issue as well, which did fail. But I think on the Denver Health, I think people look at it and Denver Health makes the case that they're that safety net in case something really bad happens, you could go to Denver Health. And I think that's probably why it passed. But what you're shedding light on here is Jill, is the game. The game, what the bill is, what's really paid, and how that big difference is used as a narrative to push forward. Ultimately, single-payer health care, government-run health care is communistic in where it's based. And you said this early on when we were together, I learned this from you, that when government gets involved, Typically, the price goes up, the quality goes down, and the supply becomes limited, Jill.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, exactly. But this whole thing with the charges and using it legislatively and everything, how can you expect lawmakers, legislators, to make proper decisions if the information that they're being given is so inaccurate? You can't expect the right decisions. Even good people can't make a proper, effective decision if they're only being given skewed, massively skewed information. So this is like the first thing that needs to be addressed, in my opinion. And the second thing is all the lobbying and campaign money that goes to legislators, especially in Washington. But, you know, I think one of the other things we need to do is have like a big scarlet letter, a big sign around every legislator's neck with a list of what donors they've had that will have a stake in whatever piece of legislation they're standing up to vote on. And they should have to walk down with a little sign around their neck and openly say how they're voting on this piece of legislation. You know, that's transparency. I mean, it should be right there in front of everybody. Who's paying you to vote the way that you're voting? Or are you going to vote in spite of who's paying for your campaign?
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. Alan Thomas, you've stayed in studio. It's always interesting when we have Dr. Jill on.
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It always is, and you learn something, too.
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Yeah. Well, we hope that happens every day here. Right. And Dr. Jill Vecchio is on the line. We're talking about health care in America. And we have Johnny in Denver on the line with a question for Dr. Jill.
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Well, I've been listening to her idea about the sign and the politicians. What about having it like an Amber Alert, using AI to digitally write down who these people are, And who's paying for them to vote that way so it notifies you in your district that's your senator and pay attention.
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Yeah, you know, yeah, I think it needs to be much more public. We shouldn't have to seek out, you know, we shouldn't have to be little private investigators to figure out. who is paying for the campaigns for the people that we are supposed to be controlling the elections for, right? I mean, we're supposed to, they're supposed to answer to us, but clearly they're going to answer to whoever donates their campaign, whoever has a bigger say in whether or not they get elected. And, you know, all of that stuff, I think, does need to be addressed. But until it can really effectively be addressed, there will always be corruption. There's always going to be background money. You know, you're not going to get rid of that. because it's just human nature, but it needs to be much more public, and they need to feel the pressure. Go ahead.
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I have another question. I was on this insurance plan, and somebody in Texas with my name was using my insurance, and when it was $36, I didn't think about it because they would always say, oh, you don't have to pay that. We'll go into it. After two years, and it went up from $36 to $3,000 and up, I wanted to go down to Texas and find out who is this other Johnny who's using my name and using my insurance and nothing seems to be happening. Wow. It sounds like to me that.
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I have never heard of that. I have never heard of that happening. United Health. What do the insurance companies say? Really?
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And they're not addressing it themselves? This is fought against them. I was calling and saying on the phone for hours, you know, why they went to this line and this line. And we just got tired of calling. And I just switched insurance plans because even though they said I wasn't going to be charged for it, I just hated seeing who is this person with my name that it doesn't seem to be doing anything.
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Well, it could affect your credit rating if they're running up a bill and not paying it in your name. You might want to check your credit score stuff to see if it's showing up.
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I'm on top of that, but it just seemed like they acted like they cared, but nothing happened.
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Right. Well, that's pretty typical, though, isn't it? You're lucky you haven't had somebody answer the phone. At this point, there are so many people, places you can't. You're expected to go online and chat with some AI person. Right. So, yeah.
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Thank you, Johnny, for sharing that with us. And I think health care is coming into the forefront here, obviously, with RFK Jr. So, Jill, what you and I are doing is we wanted to give the macro perspective. view today and then you're going to be on next week as well to have a follow-up on this. So we've got maybe about five minutes left. What do you want to make sure that people know?
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You know, one of the things you did bring up, I mean, places like Denver Health, really any hospital should be a place where someone can show up and get care and then get the proper care and then let's figure out the payment and but make that fair as well. Now, the other thing is, if all these hospitals have foundation money, I'd like to know how they're spending their foundation money. Are they giving free care? Or where is that foundation money really going? And then another thing, why don't we have, why don't we let charities and churches start health savings accounts that they can use that money only for medical care when somebody approaches them, just like a charity gives away, you know, gives clothing away or at a discounted rate or something, right? I mean, we're a very giving country. Why don't we have the ability for charities and churches to have health savings accounts that they can help other people in need pay for medical care? Well, they should be able to do that. We should be able to do that. I don't understand why that... has not already occurred. And then you think if that was the case, then why do we have to have all of the indigent going to one single hospital, one single entity? You know, you could raise the bar of care everywhere and you'd be able to distribute the burden and the workload. I mean, Aurora Medical Center also has a boatload of unreimbursed care. So why does it need to be concentrated on just a couple of facilities and the other ones are rolling in dough? You know, it just doesn't make any sense.
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Well, and again, I still question that unpaid care if they're using that, for example, in your example, $91,000 instead of the $9,100. But this is also, this was from the Denver Post. It says, Denver Health has paused gender-affirming surgeries recently. for youth to comply with Trump order, preserve federal funds. So I'm just going to say that Denver Health, change it to what it really is. Denver Health pauses mutilation surgeries for youth to comply with Trump order and preserve federal funds. So we've been using federal funds to pay Denver Health to mutilate children. And I think we kind of have to question that, Dr. Jill.
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That's pathetic. Yeah. Yeah. Pathetic that they're even doing that. I know. So we're just about out of time. Why is it? I mean, people pay for Brazilian butt lifts, for crying out loud. I mean, they pay for cosmetic surgery. Essentially, it's a cosmetic surgery. This is not medically indicated surgery. This is elective surgery. Why do we have to pay for elective surgery? surgery even though i completely disagree with the notion of gender gender transition surgery at all but if you want to if you want to mutilate your body or your kid's body then don't don't ask me to pay for it that makes me an accessory to a crime right either through federal funding or through your and the insurance that you have so um final thought uh dr jill then we'll go over to alan Let's just go to Alan.
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Okay, we'll do it. And you're going to be on, I think it's next Thursday, right? If I remember right. Whatever you tell me, I will do. I will obey.
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Dr. Jill, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. And Alan, your final thought on all this.
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One, it's great that Trump is able to stop these surgeries, but it should give us pause and it should scare us that the tendrils that the federal government has into our everyday life. And we really need to work hard at removing the stranglehold that the federal government has over all of our life. The fact that there's federal funding that can determine the type of care I'm going to get out of hospital should strike fear into all of us. And this is really something that
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republicans really need to start cracking down on in these next years with trump is saying the federal government needs to get out of your life and we're going to make sure we can do it that is what and that you sound so founding fatherish on that well that's what happens when you study them right that's absolutely right and jill thanks so much i appreciate you doing all the research on this yes and i just to say you know what hail what alan just said because
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The government now controls everything through HHS, and now we have the opportunity for a secretary of HHS who is really competent and not afraid to go after all of us.
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And so it's exciting times here in Colorado and in America. We're at the tip of the spear here in Colorado. God put us all here for a reason, and so we need to step into this. We're definitely at a time in history, and we were made for this moment. Our quote for the end of the show is from Thucydides. He said this, he said, happiness depends on being free and freedom depends on being courageous. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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Young like a new moon rising Fierce through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great unknown And I don't want no one to cry But tell them if I don't survive I was born
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In this episode, Mike Gallagher explores the complexities surrounding the tragic midair collision near Reagan National Airport. From dissecting media coverage to examining infrastructural concerns, Mike sits down with pilots and aviation experts to offer insights into the accident's causes and consequences. Listen as Mike engages with callers, discussing the broader societal implications and questioning the erosion of empathy in times of tragedy.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, here's Mike Geller.
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I hope we never lose our humanity. As awful as political battles can be, I hope we never forget our humanity. I hope we never lose sight of the things that matter. Family, life, freedom. There's been so, so many bizarre reactions to this horrific, catastrophic aircraft collision over Reagan National. And I don't want to give a lot of attention to the people who have politicized this. If you sit around and tried to come up with ways to blame the Trump administration or the Department of Defense or Sean Duffy, the new Transportation Secretary, if you thought it would be smart to publicly express criticism of the brand-new Donald Trump administration over this aircraft disaster, you need help. You've got to rethink your life. You have to look in the mirror and say something has gone really, really wrong with you. Because these are broken people. They don't have all the bodies out of the water. This is a horrific catastrophe. And there are 68 families who lost loved ones last night. And, you know, unlike a news program, this is a talk show. I get to make editorial decisions over what is aired on my show. I told my team. First thing today, I don't want to play any of the video clips that show the impact and the immediate loss of life. There are 68 families who don't want the world to gawk at the moment their wife or husband or son or daughter or mother or father was killed. And I don't want to play that. And we're not going to play that. We'll do our job. We'll react. We'll get your analysis. We'll get your thoughts. We have a lot to cover, but I don't want to exploit this horrific accident. And so if you felt the same way that I did last night when the cable networks and the news channels were playing the point of impact over and over and over again, And I don't know that they mean it this way, but that's the moment that 68 souls lost their lives. Incidentally, I hope that was when that happened. I hope that nobody plummeted into the water alive or aware. My hope and prayer is that they didn't know what happened. It doesn't look like they did. I hope and pray. We may never know. Then again... The way the culture goes, we probably will know if any of them were alive. I hope they weren't. For the family's sake, I hope they didn't spend the last seconds of their life on Earth experiencing that kind of terror. Let's not lose our humanity. These are people's loved ones and friends and lovers and family members. You've got to bear in mind co-workers, members of the military. Somebody made a horrible, horrible mistake. Somebody did something terribly wrong. And the family of that person will have to live with that for the rest of their lives. But it is just inconceivable to me that somebody would think it's a good idea to blame Trump. It's astounding how many people did that last night. And some of them took it all down. There was a Nashville TV guy that went down that stupid rabbit hole. And then, of course, he took it down and said, well, it was misinterpreted. No, it wasn't misinterpreted. You're blaming the incoming administration for an aircraft disaster. What are you talking about? What are you talking about, you people misinterpreted? You intentionally wanted to score political points before all the bodies are even recovered. Guy bragged. I looked at his stupid social media account. I'm not even going to mention his name. I've been a journalist for 40 years. Oh, you're that kind of journalist? And then I looked at the kind of journalist he is, stalking Christians and ripping the Trump administration. Guy's a world-class jerk. Remember the Mark Davis credo, my friend in Dallas, Trump hatred makes smart people stupid and it turns nice people into mean, insufferable fools. Nice people turn vicious. when their souls are poisoned by that irrational hatred of the 45th and 47th president of the United States. Never seen anything like it in my life. Never have. Look, I lived through 9-11, as you did too, probably, unless you're too young for that. We were in the Empire State Building the morning of September 11th. We lived it. We watched it. Saw bodies falling out of the towers with our own eyes. I don't remember anybody blaming George Bush in the days or weeks afterwards. We were unified. We were unified. Democrats and Republicans in New York City, they didn't even honk horns at each other for weeks. It was astounding. People weren't yelling at each other on the Long Island Railroad like they normally did every morning when I would go in for the commute. People felt a sense of community. And we ought to feel that now. And I'd like to believe we do. I'm going to try to ignore and avoid the awful, awful people who have tried to politicize this crash. I want to certainly open up our phone lines. In fact, today is a day I'm going to lean on our callers a lot. I want to hear from pilots. Like many, I've flown in and out of Reagan National many, many times. And every time, it is a... nail-biter every time. Any pilot will tell you it's not a normal approach because of its proximity to our nation's capital. Pilots are required to do all kinds of odd maneuvers to get into the airport. I'm not sure if that contributed to this in any way, shape, or form or not, but it is a long-debated issue about that airport being plopped almost right in the middle of the nation's capital. And, of course, the lawmakers love it because they can get in and out and go back to the district. And it's a wonderfully close. My hotel the other day for the inauguration was about a minute from the airport. There's a whole hotel row that's one mile away. It's amazing. Took me five minutes to get to the airport. Got out, rolled out of bed, got dressed, got my bag, went to the airport in about 10 minutes. It was amazing. That's what people love about it. But what people love about it might be a fatal flaw. I don't know. I don't know. So I want to hear from pilots. I want to hear from people who are familiar with Reagan National. I want to hear from people who are familiar with the Blackhawk military helicopter technology. One of the frustrations about this awful event is that they are supposed to have world-class technology on both aircraft to have prevented such a catastrophe. So let's get into all of it here on this Breaking News Thursday. Welcome into the Relief Factor studios. We'll give you some of the updates from the officials. Sean Duffy, the brand-new Transportation Secretary, he spoke earlier, and sadly they have confirmed that they've changed it from a recovery, I mean from a rescue to a recovery mission, which means there are no survivors. All 64 souls on the American Airlines flight. Commuter jet, 64 passengers, 60 passengers rather, four crew members all perished and all four members of the military presumably on that helicopter died as well. So no survivors. Let's get your reaction to all of it. 800-655-MIKE. Again, I want to put your voice front and center. Let's remember our humanity. What happens to people's humanity? How do people get so lost? And so broken that they think it's a good idea to politicize a midair collision like this. Unreal. Unreal. I couldn't believe my eyes last night. Let's get your reaction to all of it. 800-655-MIKE. One phone number does it all. You can text or call here on the Mike Gallagher Show for this Thursday. 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. I wanna welcome some brand new partners to the Mike Gallagher Show, like Equity Protect, and this is a big, big deal. Your home's title is often the most valuable thing you own. Next generation criminal technology is more advanced than ever. I've been an identity theft victim, it is no fun. 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Mike Gallagher.
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Moments ago, the mayor of Wichita, Kansas, which is where American Airlines Flight 5342 originated from, spoke to reporters about the Olympians that were members of the U.S. figure skating team on that doomed flight. We'll carry his comments for you in just a moment. Here's cut 20. This is the... Washington, D.C. Fire and EMS Chief John Donnelly confirming the dreaded news that no one survived this crash.
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We are now at a point where we are switching from a rescue operation to a recovery operation. At this point, we don't believe there are any survivors from this accident. And we have recovered 27 people from the plane and one from the helicopter. The district office of the medical examiner has a lead on reuniting these bodies and these people with their loved ones, and we will continue to work to find all the bodies and collect them and reunite them with their loved ones. We should also acknowledge that the Virginia medical examiner and the Army medical examiner are involved in this operation and a very important part of getting people identified.
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Heartbreaking, just heartbreaking. A lot of text messages on the MyPillow text line. Colorado, Mike, I've flown in and out of Reagan National many, many times. I always pray on approach. Crazy, the runways are at water level. Remember back in the 80s, a plane crashed into the 14th Street Bridge. I remember that. And there were survivors. There were people swimming out of the river in the horribly cold weather. Colorado says in his text, or her text, I don't think you could get approval to build it there today. Here's Sean from Dayton, Ohio. Mike, these people are heartless and soulless. How about they just take a breath and not look at tragedies as an opportunity to pounce on a man like Trump and his administration? It's just ugly. It is awful. And, of course, we are inevitably left with the question, how did this happen? And I want to turn to our audience and people who are pilots or who know aviation way better than I do. We'll start with John in Annapolis. John, thanks very much for joining us. I understand you are indeed a military pilot. Is that correct?
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I am. I've flown a couple of different airplanes, one of them H-60s. I'm not in the Army, but... Everyone except the Marines fly them, so I'm familiar with them. I've flown through D.C. I got a great picture of myself with the Washington Monument behind it. It's a beautiful flight daytime, but it's extremely busy airspace.
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And can you speak to the approach? Even the texter agreed with what I said a few minutes ago. The approach into Reagan National is so bizarre. I mean, they bank to the right, they bank to the left, and it's because of its proximity to the District of Columbia, right?
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So, yeah, so there's a whole bunch of rules. There's a whole lot of things that change it there all the time. I've only been a passenger on that approach.
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Right.
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So I can't speak to flying it. Right. But as a helicopter pilot flying there, I can say helicopters have a lot of different rules. Helicopters are in different frequencies because helicopters can do things that fixed-wing airplanes just can't do, like, you know, hover or fly at 30 knots. Sure. Weird thing. So, I mean, it's... It could be a whole bunch of different things that happened.
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And of the two aircraft, John, the jet is on a fixed approach into the airport. The helicopter would have had the ability, right, if it saw the jet to maneuver around the landing jet, right? In other words, there's only so much the pilot of the American Airlines jet could have done, isn't there?
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Uh, yeah, I would agree that he's, uh, on approach. It doesn't mean that if he saw them, there's nothing stopping him from waving off. No one would, uh, would fault him. You know, Hey, I see something my way. I'm not taking this approach. It's not safe. Uh, no one would fault them for that. Right. But, um, I don't think it'd be very easy to see anything. I mean, it's, it's, uh, relatively speaking, a tiny little speck at night. Um, They should have had their anti-collision lights on, but it was a training flight.
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Right.
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They were training for some kind of night mission. Maybe they didn't have them on. Maybe they forgot to turn them back on.
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In 30 seconds, what do you think went wrong? Just an opinion, what do you think happened?
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I think that 70% of airport collisions happened or aircraft collisions happened right at airports, and I think Murphy got the better. I don't. think we know enough to blame the aircrew of either aircraft yet.
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Interesting. All right. Appreciate your expertise. That frees a line for you. I hope you'll join us. 800-655-MIKE. Also making news, Bobby Kennedy Jr. yesterday, fiery testimony before the rabid Democrat senators. We'll take you into that hearing a little bit next. There's no better time than right now to call my friends at PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition to start your journey to a healthier you. As I hear from you about how PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition has changed your life, I know that each one of us has had our own reasons for starting. I started my journey because I gained enough weight and was ready to make a change. I sat down with Dr. Ashley Lucas, and like they say, the rest was history. I lost 53 pounds, and I've kept it off. We all have different reasons for starting. consultation. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or just go to myphdweightloss.com, myphdweightloss.com. Mike Gallagher. We're streaming live on X again today. We're everywhere. Salem News Channel. We're on hundreds of radio stations all over the country. If you're new to the show, check out our website, mikeonline.com. It's a good... A good clearinghouse of all kinds of information about what we do and why we do what we do. Going to talk to my buddy Joey Hudson tomorrow about law enforcement. I've been thinking a lot about the first responders to this air crash yesterday. The frigid waters of the Potomac. There's divers that have been in there. What our first responders go through is unlike anything else. That any normal person has to experience. We completely lose sight of that. That's why we publish the First Responders Bible, which is a King James version of the Bible as well as a spiritual fitness manual. And the executive director of Gallagher's Heroes, the Fallen Officer Fund, Joey Hudson, is going to join us on the show tomorrow to talk a little bit about what we do in our foundation. Before we take some phone calls, and again, we're standing by for President Trump. He has not yet approached the presidential podium, but when he does, we will take you to Washington so that we can see what the president has to say. Last night, he tweeted something like an ordinary Joe. I mean, he had an official statement on Truth Social about praying for the victims and this terrible, terrible tragedy. But then he also almost sort of conspiratorially said, gosh, you know, that helicopter appeared to aim straight for the jet. Why didn't the helicopter go up or down? I mean, he's like he is the people's president. This is not a lifelong politician. This is not a career politician who, you know, pulls his punches. And he took to social media reacting the way, well, everybody was reacting. How did this happen? Why did it happen? This didn't look right. Something went terribly wrong. And make no mistake, something went terribly wrong. And, you know, I want to just be fair and make sure that I'm even-handed in my criticism. for those who would politicize an event like this. It wasn't just the loony left. There were people on our side. There were some people who wanted to blame, you know, DEI for the tragedy. Look, I mean, there's a robust discussion about DEI policies in our government and in our country. When the bodies are still in the Potomac, That's not a good time to go down that path. I mean, you can't do that. Where's our humanity here? Those are people's family members on that plane. You think they want to hear about people saying, well, were there too many people of color in the air traffic control tower last night? Let's just not... give up on having a modicum of compassion and some empathy for those families who are dealing with this horrific, horrific event. Dottie is in Ohio. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. Again, as soon as President Trump takes to the podium, we'll take you there. Hey, Dottie, how are you?
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I'm okay. Like I said, I'm so upset. that I wish I can find those people that are blaming our president. Everything that he's doing, I know, is for the best of the United States. People, illegal aliens, the people, whatever they did yesterday. Why do they have to bring him in the picture?
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Well, I mean, you're asking a really reasonable question about why in the world... These people on the left don't seem to want what's best for America. Look at Bernie Sanders. I mean, they're screaming at RFK Jr. RFK Jr. is committed to making America healthy again. lowering the cancer deaths, better food in our food chain, better ingredients, get rid of things that are hurting us. You're against that? What did Bernie Sanders do? I've got to play this clip for you. This is astounding. This is Bernie Sanders, the lunatic, radical, unhinged socialist senator, More unusual than usual. More unhinged than usual. Here's Bernie Sanders screaming about the onesies. He's even got signs up. He's got signs with little baby onesies asking Bobby Kennedy about the message on the signs.
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They are selling what's called onesies. These are little things clothing for babies. One of them is titled, Unfaxed Unafraid. Next one, and they're sold for 26 bucks apiece, by the way. Next one is no vax, no problem. Now, you're coming before this committee and you say you are pro-vaccine. Just want to ask some questions. And yet your organization is making money selling a child's product to parents for 26 bucks, which casts fundamental doubt on the usefulness of vaccines. Can you tell us now that you will, now that you are president, pro-vaccine, that you're going to have your organization take these products off the market.
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Senator, I have no power over that organization. I'm not part of it. I resign from the board.
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That was just a few months ago. You founded that. You certainly have power. You can make that. Are you supportive of this? I've had nothing to do with leadership. Are you supportive of these onesies? I'm supportive of vaccines.
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Are you supportive of the onesies? My goodness, that's a U.S. senator making a fool of himself on Capitol Hill. Meanwhile, also in our nation's capital right now. Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show. Here's the 45th and 47th president of the United States addressing the nation over the deadly midair crash in Washington, D.C. Let's go to the White House.
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I'd like to request a moment of silence for the victims and their families please. Thank you very much. I speak to you this morning in an hour of anguish for our nation. Just before 9 p.m. last night, an American Airlines regional jet carrying 60 passengers and four crew collided with an Army Black Hawk helicopter carrying three military service members over the Potomac River in Washington, D.C., while on final approach to Reagan National Airport. Both aircraft crashed instantly and were immediately submerged into the icy waters of the Potomac. Real tragedy. The massive search and rescue mission was underway throughout the night, leveraging every asset at our disposal. And I have to say, the local, state, federal, military, including the United States Coast Guard in particular, they've done a phenomenal job. So quick, so fast. It was mobilized immediately. The work has now shifted to a recovery mission. Sadly, there are no survivors. This was a dark and excruciating night in our nation's capital and in our nation's history, and a tragedy of terrible proportions. As one nation, we grieve for every precious soul that has been taken from us so suddenly. And we are a country of Really, we are in mourning. This is really shaking a lot of people, including people, very sadly, from other nations who were on the flight. For the family members back in Wichita, Kansas, here in Washington, D.C., and throughout the United States, and in Russia, we have a Russia contingent, some very talented people. Unfortunately, we're on that plane. Very, very, very sorry about that. Whose loved ones were aboard the passenger jet, We can only begin to imagine the agony that you're all feeling. Nothing worse. On behalf of the First Lady, myself, and 340 million Americans, our hearts are shattered alongside yours, and our prayers are with you now and in the days to come. We'll be working very, very diligently in the days to come. We're here for you to wipe away the tears and to offer you our devotion, our love, and our support. There's great support. In moments like this, the differences between Americans fade to nothing compared to the bonds of affection and loyalty that unite us all, both as Americans and even as nations. We are one family, and today we are all heartbroken. We're all searching for answers. That icy, icy Potomac. It was a cold, cold night. Cold water. We're all overcome with the grief for many who have so tragically perished, will no longer be with us. Together, we take solace in the knowledge that their journey ended not in the cold waters of the Potomac, but in the warm embrace of a loving God. We do not know what led to this crash, but we have some very strong opinions and ideas, and I think we'll probably state those opinions now. Because over the years, I've watched as things like this happen, and they say, well, we're always investigating. And then the investigation three years later, they announce it. We think we have some pretty good ideas. But we'll find out how this disaster occurred, and we'll ensure that nothing like this ever happens again. The FAA and the NTSB and the U.S. military will be carrying out a systematic and comprehensive investigation. Our new Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, is second day on the job when that happened. It's a rough one. We'll be working tirelessly. He's a great gentleman. The whole group is — these are great people. And they are working tirelessly to figure out exactly what happened. We will state certain opinions, however. I'm also immediately appointing an acting commissioner to the FAA, Christopher Rocheleau, a 22-year veteran of the agency, highly respected. Christopher, thank you very much. Appreciate it.
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So some breaking news with President Trump. We won't miss a word of it. Don't worry, we'll pick up right where we left off. But appointing an acting commissioner of the FAA, the commander-in-chief, as consoler-in-chief over this terrible catastrophe at Reagan National Airport. Stay with us. More coming up. You know, there's a cross that Mike Lindell of MyPillow wears around his neck. And for years, people have said, Mike, can we get that cross? And so I'm real proud to share with you that MyPillow is now offering the MyCross necklace. It's a beautiful sterling silver cross, onyx-styled black enamel with a protective clear coat, mother-of-pearl-styled translucent white enamel. They've got a men's size and a ladies' size. The MyCross necklace is now available for you at MyPillow.com. If you go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials, and click on that box. You're going to get a huge discount. I mean, big-time discount. In fact, you're going to get, I think, $30 less of a price than what is available on the MyPillow site if you don't go to MySquare. So if you want a beautiful gift, if you want to remind yourself what matters, if you want the same cross, it's the same cross that Mike Lindell wears every day whenever you see him on TV, This cross is now available for you, and you're going to get a huge discount when you enter the promo code MikeG. So go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials, click on that box, and then find the MyCross. There's also all kinds of great items to get you the best night's sleep of your life. Just don't forget to enter the promo code MikeG so you'll save big, and you've got to go to that square. Go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials, click on that box, and then with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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Let's go back to Washington, D.C. We promised we wouldn't miss a word of the president-in-chief addressing the nation over this D.C. disaster. Here's where we left off, the president at the presidential podium at the White House.
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We must have only the highest standards for those who work in our aviation system. I changed the Obama standards from very mediocre at best to extraordinary. You remember that. Only the highest aptitude... have to be the highest intellect and psychologically superior people were allowed to qualify for air traffic controllers. That was not so prior to getting there. When I arrived in 2016, I made that change very early on because I always felt this was a job that, and other jobs too, but this was a job that had to be superior intelligence. And we didn't really have that, and we had it. And then, when I left office and Biden took over, he changed them back to lower than ever before. I put safety first. Obama, Biden, and the Democrats put policy first. And they put politics at a level that nobody has ever seen, because this was the lowest level. Their policy was horrible, and their politics was even worse. So, as you know, last week, long before the crash, I signed an executive order restoring our highest standards for air traffic controllers and other important jobs throughout the country. So it was very interesting. About a week ago, almost upon entering office, I signed something last week that was an executive order, a very powerful one, restoring the highest standards of air traffic controllers and others, by the way. Then my administration will set the highest possible bar for aviation safety. We have to have our smartest people. It doesn't matter what they look like, how they speak, who they are. It matters intellect, talent, the word talent. They have to be talented, naturally talented geniuses. You can't have regular people doing that job. They won't be able to do it. But we'll restore faith in American air travel. I'll have more to say about that. I do want to point out that various articles that appeared prior to my entering office. And here's one. The FAA's diversity push includes focus on hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities. That is amazing. And then it says, FAA says people with severe disabilities are most underrepresented segment of the workforce, and they want them in and they want them They can be air traffic controllers. I don't think so. This was on January 14th, so that was a week before I entered office. They put a big push to put diversity into the FAA's program. Then, another article, the Federal Aviation Administration. This was before I got to office, recently, second term. The FAA is actively recruiting workers who suffer severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's website. Can you imagine? These are people that are, I mean, actually, their lives are shortened because of the stress that they have. Brilliant people. have to be in those positions. And their lives are actually shortened, very substantially shortened, because of the stress, where you have many, many planes coming into one target. And you need a very special talent and a very special genius to be able to do it. Targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring. The FAA's website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability, and dwarfism all qualify for the position of a controller of airplanes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot, a little dot on the map, a little runway. The initiative is part of the FAA's diversity and inclusion hiring plan. Think of that. The initiative is part of the FAA's diversity and inclusion hiring plan, which says diversity is integral to achieving FAA's mission of ensuring safe and efficient travel. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it's just the opposite. The FAA website shows that the agency's guidance on diversity hiring were last updated on March 23rd of 22. They wanted to make it even more so. And then I came in, and I assume maybe this is the reason. The FAA, which is overseen by Secretary Pete Buttigieg, a real winner. That guy's a real winner. Do you know how badly everything's run since he's run this Department of Transportation? He's a disaster. He was a disaster as a mayor. He ran his government agency charge with regulating civil aviation. Well, he runs it, 45,000 people, and he's run it right into the ground with his diversity. So I had to say that it's terrible. Then it's a group within the FAA, another story, determined that the workforce was too white. that they had concerted efforts to get the administration to change that and to change it immediately. This was in the Obama administration just prior to my getting there. And we took care of African Americans, Hispanic Americans. We took care of everybody at levels that nobody has ever seen before. It's one of the reasons I won. But they actually came out with a directive to white And we want the people that are competent. But now we mourn and we pray and would like to ask all Americans to join me in a moment of silence as we ask God to watch over those who have lost their lives and bring comfort to the loved ones. And I just want to say God bless everyone in this room. This has been a terrible, very short period of time. We'll get to the bottom of it. So, we all saw the same thing. We've seen it many times. I've had the honor of hearing tapes. Tapes are scary, very scary tapes. You had an airliner coming in, American Airlines. He was doing everything right. He was on track. He was the same track as everybody else that came in. It's probably the same track as they've had for 25 years or more. He's coming in the path. And for some reason, he had a helicopter that was at the same height, obviously when they hit, but pretty much the same height, and going at an angle that was unbelievably bad when the air traffic controller... From the White House.
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Of course, moments ago I said not a good idea to bring up DEI, and he went full scale. You know, that's President Trump. Maybe nobody noticed my comments. Look, I had a good run. I really did. I had a nice run as a talk show host. All right, more coming up. President Trump addressing the nation with a combination of frustration over the DEI policies of the FAA and mourning the loss. Stick around. More coming up.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis. Morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's M&M experience.
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Look, we got a lot to cover today. And of course, just our hearts are so heavy. We all went to bed last night with the grim, grim news that this unthinkable thing happened at Reagan. You know, I was obviously those of us went to the inauguration. We just went out in and out of Reagan. And you I know you've gone in and out of Reagan many, many times. There is an issue about its location, its proximity to the district, and how really harrowing every approach is into Reagan National. And it has to do largely with the lawmakers who love the airport being right where it is.
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It is a badly placed harrow. harrowing i don't say dangerous airport but it's it's it ain't ideal it'll never move because the other the other washington airport uh option is dulles which is 45 minutes out to the west which would make perfect sense but nobody in congress hello or anybody in the cabinet or anybody at the white house wants to schlep all the way out to dulles they want to go across the bridge and be at national in 15 minutes which you can do
SPEAKER 09 :
I was talking to my seatmate going into Reagan last week for the inauguration, and I said, now watch this approach. It's going to be really intriguing. And it is. They bank one way. We're going to get pilots on the show today as well. I'm going to catch up with my buddy Captain Will Smith. of Will Smith Aviation here in Tampa Bay, Florida. He's gone in and out of Reagan many times. And your pilots, I've been listening to your pilots talking about their experience. And I've been struck about North Texas because as I understand it, the community that Denise and the kids and I called home, Southlake, was largely built because of the presence of American Airlines at DFW.
SPEAKER 10 :
From Southlake to ULIS to... You know, the DFW, I guess, kicked off circa 1971. The number of human beings that were going to be employed there, it is its own city. And so it, of course, affected development within a 10 mile radius, to be sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about the ugliness of this awful, awful catastrophe. And that is the politicization of an airplane crash. I mean, and look, our side isn't immune from it. Let's just stipulate we had people, we had knuckleheads on our side saying, oh, DEI, DEI in the control tower. Not the time. The bodies aren't even out of the river yet. And to weaponize an event like this, to try to score political points one way or the other, I'm not trying to be holier than thou, but knock it off. And, you know, from the Nashville journalist who was blasting Trump, and then he took the Post down to... What did he say?
SPEAKER 10 :
What are you talking about?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, same crap about Trump's policies, hiring freezes and all this nonsense. I mean, the man's been in office nine days. There's nothing Trump has done in a week and a half that could have anything to do with what happened last night.
SPEAKER 10 :
And yet, because I think you're going to go to one post and I'll let you share it because you very kindly attached me to it. And as an example of Trump hatred, making nice people mean and smart people stupid. But as I went to bed last night, I had a political thought of my own, and I had a thought about the aftermath of this under Trump and Pete Hagseth with the Department of Defense and Sean Duffy at Transportation, and I found myself grateful that we do have an administration that I believe in the fog of speculation and with the mystery of an impending investigation and so many questions, I have the confidence that we have an administration that will shoot straight with us, and that's confidence I have not had for four years. We talked about this a couple of days ago. It took Caroline Leavitt like 30 seconds at the thing to say, oh, the drones were totally ours. The FAA knew it, and they just didn't tell you. So we find... And why didn't they? And why didn't they?
SPEAKER 09 :
What could possibly... I'm not asking that as a rhetorical question. Why would they keep that from the American people? I mean, the Trump administration took five minutes to say, here's what this was. The Biden administration kept us in the dark. Why?
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So I'm grateful that we've got people in power now, that as we go through tough times like this, which we will, that we have... I really believe we have people who, if there's something squirrely about the military aircraft or those pilots... or anything that we learn that's nefarious or weird or strange. We have an open and transparent administration, at last, that will shoot straight with us. And now here's Mike with someone who feels differently. You want to go ahead? And I hate to give idiots like this attention.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I don't even like to give it a lot of oxygen. In fact, the problem is I'm really making some editorial decisions today. For example, when I take to the air with Salem News Channel and the video side of what we do, not unlike what we're doing right now on X, I refuse to let my team, play any video of the actual impact and I thought about this when I went to bed last night and I'll tell you why somebody's wife was on that plane somebody's husband somebody's dad son there were there are loved ones there are at least well I'm sure it sounds like there are 68 souls that died that moment I don't like playing that. I don't want to show that impact. I understand we are in the information business and we can analyze and we can break things down. But I told Christian, no video of the crash. Because of where it is, there are already tons of videos that have been released. You know, there was a webcam from the Kennedy Center. And admittedly, I will tell you, and you and I talked about this last night, One of the videos appears to show the helicopter streaking across the sky directly into the jet. Like one of your pilots said, you don't have a lot of leverage on how you're doing the approach. In fact, did the pilot, incidentally, quick diversion here, and pardon me for, I digress. Did the pilot tell you I refuse to go in on runway 33?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, he said, I don't want to do 33 at Reagan National. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
They're allowed to do, the pilots can do that?
SPEAKER 10 :
That's what I said. You get to wave off somebody.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow, the power. Look, I don't want to question his veracity there, but that seems like a really hinky system. Well, I don't feel like flying in on runway 29 today. Give me 27. What? You go where they tell you to go or else you're going to have chaos. I don't quite understand that.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't think you get to do it on the fly, so to speak, like with 30 seconds to spare, but maybe well in advance.
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe he picks it out.
SPEAKER 10 :
On the imagery, you brought up something really important that I support you on 100%. Is such a video newsworthy? Of course it is. So if you have a news network, and obviously Salem News Channel is a news network, but we're running talk shows all day like yours, et cetera. So is there justification in showing it on a CNN, a Fox News? Yes, there is. And for loved ones, I might say don't watch cable news because you might see your loved ones die on TV 14 times. Now, the thing is, though, however, but is the decision you've made. Here we are morning after you're showing B-roll alongside your discussions. Do you need to show it 35 times? No, you don't. And that is a very thoughtful and proper decision that you have made.
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Well, I'm also not going to play the interview, a heartbreaking interview. And I just got emotional when I saw this poor young husband who was interviewed by a reporter at Reagan who was getting texts from his wife on the plane moments before they landed. And he's showing the reporter her texts. And I thought, I can't even begin. Look. All of us have had loss in our lives. We've all experienced heartache. This poor guy is telling the reporter, I haven't heard anything. I hope they're pulling her out of the water. Now, I'm not going to exploit that. I'm just not going to play that. I told Christian, every day we go through a process of what videos we're going to show, what we're going to air, what we're not. I'm not airing that. Rightfully so.
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But I'm just going to throw in as journalism 101. I would throw in. Does a reporter get to ask somebody that? Yes. And the guy, the guy with a loved one on the plane can say, you know, get lost. Or if he does talk to the cameras and the microphones, that is something you can run.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, this, however— But like you said, let's—but wait a minute, real quick. Let's stipulate, and you said something that's important, and I want to reiterate this. We're different. We're a talk show. We do cover breaking news, what to make of it all, but it's our show, and we can make editorial decisions. And I just—I'm just going to respect the families right now. There are 68 families right now that are going through the unimaginable, and I just want to respect that.
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And they deserve better than this. I'm not even going to mention the guy's name. He shows up on social media every once in a while. Shocker. Trump hater. So whatever. And shares this. Needless to say, at a time like this, you really wish you had some confidence that the head of the DOD, Department of Defense, had some clue of how to lead an organization. A Blackhawk right on the Pentagon's back porch and in the approach path of a major domestic airport? We need answers. Shut up, you moron. Taking this moment to bag on what all Pete Hegseth has done is said, look, prayers for everybody we're going to get to the bottom of this investigation's underway which is exactly the proper thing to do so just i literally it's the mark davis it's the mark davis nice people get smart people stupid pray for people who are this bent pray for people whose petty stupid political hatreds lead them to post garbage like this
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Well, and they should largely be ignored. Yesterday, also in Washington, D.C., of course, Bobby Kennedy Jr. I've got a little bit of a different take than you do. I sense a little bit of reticence on your part. I thought he was spectacular.
SPEAKER 10 :
He was great.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, good, good.
SPEAKER 10 :
He batted it down with enormous skill. They tried to poke at him, and he was hitting home run.
SPEAKER 09 :
How about Bernie with the onesie? I know. Look at these onesies.
SPEAKER 10 :
It says, no vax, no problem. Do you support these onesies?
SPEAKER 09 :
Do you support the onesies? And Megyn Kelly was in the background. She was over Bobby Kennedy's right shoulder. And it was classic because you saw Megyn just laughing hysterically. Now, Bernie Sanders thought that was such a good idea. He had signs made and everything of the onesies. Do you like the onesies? Will you take these off the market? Will you take them off the market? My gosh. If that doesn't guarantee his confirmation, I don't know what does. But here's the problem. We're going to go back to Mitch McConnell. We're going to go back to Susan Collins. We're going to go back to Lisa Murkowski. And it's only going to take one more. And he doesn't make it. And that's going to be a big, big blow.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you know who it might be? Republican Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, who is a doctor. and has that doctor's ego thing going. And by the way, if you are a doctor, you deserve to have a pretty big ego. But this, I don't know. I think that I don't trust these people.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, but let's admit, doctors always have outsized egos.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know what? If you survive medical school and you have life, in fact, and pardon this quick aside, I mentioned The Pit, the show that's on, I don't know what, the PITT with Noah Wiley from ER. Oh, yeah. Third episode of that. It is so incredible and it gives you the thought, this is people's lives every day. Life, they save lives. They see life end. There's an older gentleman.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, please. I put my life on the line every day with this show. Come on. I'm risking life and limb.
SPEAKER 10 :
P-I-T-T. I think it's on HBO Max or some such. Noah Wiley. It is fantastic.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the Kennedy thing comes down to one thing. They just don't trust him on his vaccine skepticism. And he shares the same skepticism we all do. I did a thing yesterday. Should I get a flu shot or not? 98% of people on social media said it's got the mRNA. You're going to have an eyeball. People don't like that, and I'm not getting it. You know what I did yesterday? I was in the chair. I got my IV treatment. I got my flu kicker. Your chelation mic shows up now. Oh, yeah. I'm in the red room. I got laser beams. I got laser beams. I got light. No, I'm not doing the flu shot. That's for me. But, you know, hey, like they say, my body, my choice.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you'll do that witch doctor chelation stuff, but no flu shot. And I'm kidding.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm half kidding. Half kidding. Half kidding. Now, today, this week, we got to get ready for Tulsi Gabbard. Yes. The secret vote. How's that going to go? I think it'll be. I got. I don't know. I got doubts about that. Kash Patel, get out the popcorn.
SPEAKER 10 :
What are your doubts about Tulsi's worthiness or doubts about whether she'll succeed?
SPEAKER 09 :
As I understand, the Tulsi Gabbard vote is the one that will be held in secret. Now, why that is, I don't quite fully understand that. But no one's going to have to answer whether they voted or not. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
SPEAKER 10 :
I better know exactly how my senator and every senator deal on everything.
SPEAKER 09 :
We got a new administration with a ton of transparency, and you nailed it. Trump posted something on social media last night. It's like he's just like a guy. He's not the president. You talk about the people's president. I mean, we were all doing this, speculating about what did this look like. And that's what he did. He said the helicopter went straight for the plane, and why didn't it go up? Why didn't it go down? But that's a normal average American asking, how could this happen? And it's our president. Sorry. We love that. We love that about him. So here we go. All right. Well, prayers out for everybody involved and the first responders who are doing an amazing job. So God bless them all. All right. Hang in there, Mark.
SPEAKER 10 :
Appreciate you. Mike, show starts as soon as we're done at 10 right here on 660 AM. The answer.
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I am well. Great to be with you.
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Always a joy having you, and we were going to talk today and still will about some of the deportation flights that are starting to happen, and we've seen some of the results. But before we get to that, and I didn't get a lot of time in the last hour to discuss and acknowledge the plane crash last night in D.C., American flight 5342, and we all saw what happened, and unfortunately, no survivors, and just a tragic night last night and day today.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's just really surreal, especially for all of us that live here in Washington, D.C., that fly in and out of Reagan Airport quite frequently, that drive across those bridges that were seen in the videos that were posted online daily. So it really feels obviously so bizarre for anything like this to happen at this point in history when we have so much technology and our aircraft are equipped so well in order to avoid this kind of thing. But then especially in Washington, D.C., where regulations over who and what flies over D.C. are so stringent. So I think the American people will be really eager to have answers. And of course, there will be a full investigation. But so much of the country right now is just grieving.
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These are
SPEAKER 18 :
So many lives, over 60 lives lost in a moment and just nothing you expect.
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No, not at all. On the same token, I'm not trying to be coy for all of you listening. And yes, it's a very tragic thing. Although life goes on, business has to take place. Things need to keep going. In regards to our conversation about illegal aliens, especially really the first ones are rounding up, as you know, Virginia, are the hardcore criminals. That's what I'm going to call them that have come across the border. And the reality is a lot of them are being rounded up as we speak, in some cases being flown back to their original country of origin, which, by the way, is where they should. On the same token, some of them, and I read today, were Guantanamo is now going to get opened back up, and there's going to be some of those that go there. I don't know, and I have not read. Maybe you know the criteria as to where. They'll go. I'm guessing that some of them that end up in Guantanamo have probably committed crimes here that they need to have restitution for. And I'm guessing that will be the criteria. But I'm not an expert there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah. I mean, Guantanamo, it's really operating as a holding facility when you're trying to do mass deportation like President Trump is trying to do, where we have 10 million people who have entered our country illegally over the past four years. And hundreds of thousands of those individuals are criminals, many of whom very violent criminals. Right. There has to be a process of, okay, we're getting these people on planes, we're taking them, but then you kind of have to process them out of the system, figure out, okay, where is their home country? Because they're not always shocking, but criminal legal aliens are not always honest.
SPEAKER 15 :
I was going to say, they're not really forthright in where their home of origin is, right?
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly, exactly. So all of that takes time to get that information out. So Guantanamo is set up as a facility in order to, you know, instantly they can take 10,000 of these folks and, you know, you give them a few weeks and they can be prepped to take many, many more thousand. So it's a staging area that then flights would go out. Makes sense.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you. That's some good clarification on my end that I didn't. Quite really, you know, and again, there's so many things going on right now. And I try to read as much as I can. That was one of those areas where I'll just be frank. I did not go through all the details and read exactly what that's going to be used for. So thank you very much for the clarification. And I think what you just said a moment ago is very true as well, because one of the things I was wondering, I'm like, OK, wait a minute. You're a member of a cartel, which in a lot of cases they are, or you're a member of some well-known gang that, by the way, operates on a worldwide basis. What incentive is there for me at that point, if I'm one of these individuals, Virginia, to say where I came from?
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. It's interesting. I remember being down at the southern border, gosh, this was probably almost two years ago now, and just finding ID cards, passports from countries literally all over the world. And that was very, very common. It's a very common practice that illegal aliens would kind of shed that identity because they didn't, for one, they didn't want to have evidence of having passed through multiple countries where they could have stopped to claim asylum. Right. But then also they didn't want their identity to be known often to the U.S. government. So they would throw those documents away just before crossing. And so absolutely, when you're talking about arresting criminals, they're probably not going to be super honest. I watched one video of an arrest and, you know, the gentleman saying, I'm not going to say anything without a lawyer. So, you know, it's. going to present many, many challenges. And I think with Tom Holman at the helm of Sport Bazaar, he's certainly up for the task and has meant no words about saying, hey, the process might be long, it might be hard. At the end of the day, we're going to get this done. But it is a process and it's a tricky one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. And one of those things that I was thinking in the back of my mind, I haven't said much of this on air because I'm thinking, OK, to your point, a lot of these folks end up here. They have shed blood. and or maybe even picked up new identity along the way. I mean, we have to remember these are hardened, in a lot of cases, hardened criminals. We're not talking about, you know, the folks that are doing petty theft and things like that, Virginia. We're talking about those literal hardened criminals. Some of them ended up here in Aurora, Colorado, by the way, and you saw what happened here with the big bust that happened on Sunday morning early. Reality is these are not nice people, let's just say that. And so I've always wondered, okay, I get all of that, but how do you determine who's who? I mean, these guys don't have to tell you the truth as to who they are and their name and where they've come from. I mean, do we have a system of, you know, identification through fingerprints and things along those lines? I mean, do you know, Virginia, how that works?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so it is much easier when we are working with criminal legal aliens who are originally from countries that are friendly with the U.S. Because countries that are friendly with the U.S., some of them will share their criminal databases with us. So we have access to the information that they have. We can run fingerprints through those databases. But not all countries do that. And that's where it gets tricky. And that's where you need that additional intelligence. that it gets much more complicated and takes a lot longer when you're dealing with countries that don't want to share information with the United States or work with us at all, for that matter.
SPEAKER 15 :
Makes total sense. And that's where I think to a lot of people, they think, oh, it's easy. Go round them up and send them back. Yeah, time out. for a moment. This is a bigger chore than what anybody thinks, especially, and I want to make sure I add this in, Virginia, especially given the open border policy we've had under the last administration and the reality of the fact that, I don't know any other way to say it, We've literally given them not only an open door, but then in a lot of ways have literally hidden them, if you would, or given them the ability to just stay under the radar. In fact, gone one step further, here in Colorado, we've had our news media, we've had our governor. We've had officials in the city of Aurora where these particular gangs have hung out. And the reality is we, as conservatives, myself included on this program, have been told, oh, you guys are Looney Tunes. You have no idea what you're talking about. These gangs don't exist. This is just a figment of your imagination. There's nothing nefarious going on there. So literally, you've had an administration and the cronies thereof basically telling the rest of us that, oh, there's nothing to see here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, it's unbelievable when we know there's MS-13 gang members active across the United States. Trende Aragua, a prison gang founded in Venezuela, active across the United States, which you all know very well in Colorado. So, I mean, this is a widespread issue, and you're absolutely right. I mean, it's bizarre in some ways to see these states, these cities, who have said, no, we're not going to participate anymore. with the federal government in deporting legal aliens. In the case of California, I mean, they have put together literally a flesh fund of $25 million in order to help provide legal services to criminal legal aliens and illegal aliens in general to avoid deportation. I mean, talk about rolling out the welcome mat to criminal legal aliens to say, Hey, it's okay. You can just come here. I mean, if I lived in one of those cities, I think I would just be so incredibly offended that you're literally welcoming criminals into my city at what cost? At the cost of my safety, my family, my kids? It's unbelievable.
SPEAKER 15 :
I fully agree. Daily Signal, again, for those of you listening, please follow them. In this case, Virginia is the news producer for Daily Signal and host of the Daily Signal podcast and Problematic Women, so I would encourage you to listen to those things. And, again, go to the Daily Signal, subscribe. Actually, if you do that, it shows up in your inbox pretty much every day, Virginia, which we appreciate you doing, by the way.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. No, it's our pleasure and joy to keep on reporting on these critical issues. I had the privilege just recently to sit down with Borders R. Tom Holman on the Digital Signal podcast. So if you're looking for somewhere to start and you're fascinated by this issue, start with that conversation because we dig into all the details of his plans and what the priorities will be for these deportations.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. Last question I have for you. And this is a little bit off topic, but because Daily Signal and the fact that you're what I consider and I'm sure you would define yourself as an alternative to mass media news source. And given what the White House press secretary just said a couple of days ago about now allowing those of you like that a seat at the table. Question I have is, have you had a seat at the table prior to some of these press conferences inside of the White House? And if not, will you now take advantage of that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. So we are so excited for these changes and we experienced the day with people. My team experienced firsthand being pushed out of the white house under the Biden administration. My colleague, Fred Lucas had white house press credentials, um, and then lost them under, under Biden. And so now to have an administration that is saying with welcome arms, Hey guys, come on back in. We want these alternative media sources. is really exciting. And here at The Daily Signal, we are going to benefit, but not only us, so many small news agencies and even podcasters. I was excited to hear that, that they're going to be bringing podcasters in so many ways. That's the new source, one of the new sources of news that people are relying on. So it is a new day in the world of media, and it's exciting to see an administration that's really embracing that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we appreciate all that you do, and I'm sure we'll be hearing some of those things, you know, straight from the horse's mouth, if you would, in Virginia. I appreciate all you guys are doing, and we'll keep having you back on.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. Thanks so much.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're very welcome. Appreciate it. And, yeah, I wanted to ask that on purpose because I had a feeling that that was the case with them. They were probably one of the, what, 430 people that had press passes revoked under the Biden administration, and those will be coming back, and we'll be able to hear directly from them. them you know from daily signal and others when it comes to some of the press briefings and so on hi-fi plumbing and electrical is next and again folks if you've had any issues with your plumbing fresh water coming in going out freezing or you just want to do some upgrades they've got a great deal right now when it comes to hot water heaters and garage or sorry and garbage disposals i should say and i mean water heaters yes i know it's hot when it's done that's why it's called a water heater give them a call today 877 we high five
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, in our next segment, we've got a lieutenant colonel, retired, that will be coming on. We'll talk a little bit more about the plane crash that happened last night in D.C., Dulles Airport and right outside. And, again, I don't know exactly what he'll have to say or what he'll be able to fill us in on. Most of you know the story. You've seen some of the reports. You've probably seen even some of the videos. And, again, that was American Airlines Flight 5342. And what we know is they were on descent. Everything had been going well, no problems. And there was a Black Hawk helicopter that was doing some training maneuvers. And this is the part that drives me crazy. All of the stupid conspiracy theories that are out there that I've had to read through today, please, for the love of God, until you know exactly what went on, please refrain from being stupid. And I mean that sincerely. Please refrain from being stupid because most of that comes from our side, not others. And I understand that, you know, Black Hawk helicopter is equipped with all sorts of, you know, gear and this, that and the other. But you weren't there. You have no idea what was going on. You don't know what the control tower had told them. There's some reports that about 30 seconds prior to impact, the control tower had asked them to look for an incoming plane. Again, folks, you don't have that exact timeline. You have no idea whether that's accurate or not. You don't know what was going on in the cockpit of the Blackhawk at that time. You don't know if they were using night vision or not. You have no idea what was going on at that given time. You're speculating. And I've read all of the stupid comments on, well, you know, this was a direct hit. This was planned. This was this. This was that. You don't have the foggiest idea. So please don't be stupid and post those things because you don't know. Literally, you do not know. Don't be a moron. And refrain from reposting something else as much as you might want it to be true. Until you know what it is, don't post it. Don't be that person. Don't be a moron. And by the way, today I asked several people that basically fly for a living or have and asking their opinion as to what could have happened. And, you know, we'll hear that from Lieutenant Colonel Allen here in just a few minutes. Allen Campbell is going to join us. But I'm guessing he'll likely have the same type of advice for you all that I have right now is until we know more details on it, refrain from saying things that would be extremely ignorant and stupid at the end of the day. Joe, what's going on?
SPEAKER 03 :
John, as you know, I'm a licensed commercial pilot, and I was able to listen to the exchange between the control tower and the helicopter pilot about an hour ago. And it was in real time. There was no delays or anything. And at one point, so the tower is communicating with the helicopter pilot, and she asks the pilot, the helicopter pilot, do you have the landing aircraft in sight? And the helicopter pilot says, affirmative. And then she replies to him, maintain visual separation. And the helicopter pilot replies, Roger. I then looked at the radar tracks of the two aircraft. The landing aircraft was coming straight in for the runway. He's just on what's called a glide slope coming right straight into the runway. And the helicopter that had been over the Potomac River, which is right parallel to and adjacent to this runway, you watch the radar track of the helicopter. For some reason... And he's flying in the exact opposite direction. The jet's coming in from one direction, let's call it right to left, and the helicopter is going left to right. And had he stayed on his track, they would have just passed each other like two ships in the night. But as he passes beyond the approach end of the runway, the landing run, he turns into the path of the landing jet and T-bones him. So clearly when he said, I have the aircraft in sight, if he did, he had a different aircraft in sight.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. And my gut feeling is, as busy as that is and everything going on, and Joe, I know we don't have these things happen very often for lots of reasons, and you know more about that than even I. There's lots of things that take place, and there's lots of preemptive things that can happen inside of the cockpits and so on. But Joe, at the end of the day, people still make mistakes.
SPEAKER 03 :
They do. And John, I've had some near misses. You know, I've probably flown in and out of Centennial Airport, I don't know, 500 times because it was my home airport. And I've had several near misses. I'll give you an example. I was coming straight in one day and it was a calm day. So normally you take off and land and normally all the traffic goes in the same direction because you always take off and land into the wind. So landing aircraft and departing aircraft normally take off. But on this particular day, it was calm. And one pilot had asked to depart on the same runway that I was coming in, been cleared to land on. So he's taking off at me. So the tower controller cleared the pilot immediate right turn after liftoff. And I'm coming in. I've got wing lights, and they're back and forth, like flashing left, right, left, right, left, right. And I'm coming straight in, and I see this guy, and I'm watching for him. He doesn't make the turn as instructed by the controller. And the controller who has radar can see both of us, even though she may not be looking in our direction. She's got a radar screen that shows, you know, every aircraft in and around the airport. She doesn't notice that this guy has not made the turn. So I have to take evasive action because this guy is coming straight at me. And then I radioed the tower. I said tower just had a near miss. You know, the departing aircraft, you know, did not make the turn. So, yes, that's one of several examples, John, but that's the most. Stark won. It was on a clear day, sunny day, not a cloud in the sky. And he made the mistake of not following the controller's instruction to make an immediate right turn. And she didn't notice on her screen that he didn't make the turn. you know, there's two compounding errors.
SPEAKER 15 :
And we've seen some, you know, I'm not trying to, you know, make light of last night by any means, Joe, because I wouldn't do that. But we've seen in the past several years, lots of near misses that have happened under the watch of the current, you know, FAA control tower folk and so on. And again, you have to wonder, and I think Donald Trump was alluding to this today, even, you know, how much has the the dei hiring thing and i've got my own personal story of somebody that i know very well that didn't go into that field because of the dei thing that had been implemented you know years ago joe when it came to you had to hire this person versus the most qualified and so you have to wonder because of some of those policies of the past is that part of what happened last night and again i don't know right and john on that near miss by the way they uh fox they did run a statistic on that
SPEAKER 03 :
We've been averaging three near misses. These are three reported near misses. Now, I never filled out, like on this one I just gave you, John, that was clearly a near miss in my case, but it never got recorded. But when there are two commercial jets and there's a collision, and there are warning systems that will go off in the tower when there's a near miss, and the tower is required to log those and report those. But there have been we have been averaging three near misses per year for about the past 15 years.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. In other words, unfortunately, it finally happened. And I'm sure from here on out, there will be some most likely. Well, I can already tell you under President Trump, there will be some changes made moving forward. No doubt about that. And I you know, again, we've got a special guest, a lieutenant colonel coming on this from the Air Force and the things that we'll know more of this than than probably possible. you or I do, but when it comes to the Blackhawk, I'm assuming because that's a military aircraft, it may not have all of the same things communicating back to the tower that a commercial airliner would have. Am I wrong in thinking that?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think you are, John, because, again, he was clearly in communication with the tower, but here's, I think, a mitigating factor. They were doing night vision training where you put the thing down, and then the night vision, even though it's good for seeing things on the ground, In my opinion, if you're looking out the window without those, you're much easier to distinguish between near and far lights. When you're looking through night vision, you see a bright spot, but you don't know if that bright spot is 100 feet away or 1,000 feet away.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think his ability to distinguish which aircraft he was looking at was impeded by the fact that he— had his night vision goggles on.
SPEAKER 15 :
I would agree. And again, I'm not, you know, we'll listen to our next quote-unquote expert because this is something that I'm sure he's very familiar with because that's something, Joe, that's literally, you know, out of my wheelhouse.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and one thing, I know you're going to go, John, I would say that the military should not be conducting night training exercises within five miles of a busy commercial airport.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was my first question, but who am I?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, but, John, it's common sense. Thank you. I mean, it's a high traffic area. You know, sometimes they're like busy, almost like a bee's nest. I've come into Centennial on a Saturday afternoon. John, it's like a swarm of aircraft. Literally, there's, you know, on the right, on the left, above you, below you. And I wouldn't be one of conducting any sort of training exercise within five miles of Boston Logan or Denver International at night. I think that's just stupid.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, our next guest flew 21 1⁄2 years in the United States Air Force with over 3,000 hours and then became a commercial airline pilot after that. So I'm sure he'll have some insight.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. John, what time is it coming on?
SPEAKER 15 :
Next, as soon as we're done with the commercial.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. I'll be listening.
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All right, we are back. Thanks for listening. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Alan Bullitt Campbell joining us now. And welcome to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you for having me. I'm sorry that it's under circumstances like this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and yeah, thank you so much for joining us, really, on such short notice as well. Author of My Life Above the Clouds. You are, and I said this a moment ago, but for those of you maybe just tuning in here just in the last few minutes here, 21 1⁄2 years, 3,000 hours for the United States Air Force and Florida Air National Guard, and then you also went on to fly commercially for about 37 years. So you know a little bit about what happened last night.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I do. I know about the commercial airplane side of it. I don't know about the Army helicopter side. But that's all going to be uncovered. They're looking into that. They'll start scripting off the obvious things that weren't involved. But then they'll start looking at the specific things that were involved in this. And I just think it's really bad for the commercial airplane because I think they did everything exactly correct as they were supposed to. I think for some reason the Army got in the way, who knows why, altitude or latitude or whatever it was. They will uncover all of that, but it's just a tragedy.
SPEAKER 15 :
And this is something where you may know, because I don't. And I was talking to one of my listeners here a moment ago who's also a pilot. So we were having a discussion just before you came on. And I maybe I shouldn't assume, but I'm assuming that the Blackhawk, you know, the Army Blackhawk doesn't have the same type of avoidance systems and so on that a commercial airliner would have and maybe can't even communicate back to the tower in that way. Or am I wrong in thinking that?
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I really don't know. I flew military airplanes for the Air Force, but the Army Black Hawk, I really don't know. They were flying VFR, which is visual flight rules. They do that regularly up and down the river there. They were a little bit off the altitude, I think. They were supposed to be down at like 300, 200 feet, and they were up to nearly 400 feet. Who knows why? I've also heard stories that they had the night vision goggles on. I don't know why they would do that with all the lights in the Washington, D.C. area and at that airport. That seems inappropriate, but that will be uncovered in this investigation.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that's one where, yeah, I'm glad that you mentioned that because, again, I'm not – I've never been in the military. I've had – Some family members, my son has been. I've never experienced night vision, so I have no idea what that looks like outside of TV and movie shows and so on. But what I've heard and what I understand is actual light shining at you is actually a deterrent when you have your night vision on. Am I correct in thinking that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I would assume that. We actually wore them down in Panama, and we would fly in a two-seat airplane. So one guy would have the goggles on. The other guy would not have goggles on, and that way you could pretty much cover everything. We actually went up in formation with a drug-carrying airplane, had all of its lights off. The guy with bare eyes could see absolutely nothing. The guy with the night vision goggles could read the numbers on the side. He saw a guy get up and walk down the aisle. He could see him through the windows. The difference is just stunning.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow, amazing, amazing. And like you say, there'll be a lot of things, and I'm always one, and I reminded my listeners of this in the last segment, that I'm always one to not judge. I have no idea what actually happened. I'm also not a conspiracy person. I just don't want to go down those paths. There's not enough information right now. Again, I just – we don't know. I mean, I should say I – We, we as a country and as a world right now, just don't know. We need more information to really determine, you know, what was going on and whose fault, you know, if any. I mean, there's got to be somebody's error here in whose was it. I just don't know at this point.
SPEAKER 05 :
yes and i have some suspicions and they brought up the term dei i wouldn't even go there yet they've got to do all this investigation they've got a lot of information and they've got to determine what was an issue and what was not an issue and so i think everybody needs to be patient and unfortunately this is good for two or three days and then it kind of loses its steam right they'll know all about this in a few days they've got the recorders on the commercial airplane they'll have all kinds of information So basically we just need to stay tuned.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, on the commercial side, and this was a question I did want to ask you because this is where you've got a lot of experience. You're flying, you're coming in for the landing, you're doing everything you're supposed to, and then out of nowhere, all of a sudden, this Blackhawk shows up. I am assuming, and again, I've never flown an airplane, something I've always wanted to do but never have, but I'm assuming it's much like being in a car. As you're entering an intersection, somebody runs a light, and all of a sudden, you're there, and there isn't anything you can do. Is this pretty much the similar situation?
SPEAKER 05 :
I would say that pretty much tells the story because the commercial pilots are focused on that runway. That's a busy airport. I understand they were supposed to land on the north runway, which would take you right off of the river, but they went to the other runway because there was a delayed takeoff or something like that. That'll all come out. But if they did that, then that put them further to the right, into the middle of the river, further to the north, and that's what
SPEAKER 15 :
helped the conflict if they'd landed on the normal runway this would have never happened okay i didn't you know what you just told me something that i had not heard either and that's that's great information and you know the other thing too and i did we did talk about this in the last segment this is something i wanted to get your input on as well and again for all of you listening we're talking to retired lieutenant colonel alan a bullet campbell and has been behind the um How should I say? It's been behind the windshield of an airplane many, many, many hours. And you could probably tell us total how many that is. But from what I'm seeing in my notes, there's a lot of hours there. Let's just say let's just say that. And the question that I've got for you is, you know, we hear of, you know, near misses and a lot of them are reported even in the news. But I'm guessing there is a ton that are not. And I'm not trying to say that, you know, this was. bound to happen because of all the near misses we've had but it sure seems like we've had an awful lot of them especially in the past i don't know decade or so am i wrong in thinking that no i don't think you're wrong there's always going to be some errors and mistakes but
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you have to keep this a little bit in perspective, because when you land at the San Francisco airport, the runways are fairly close, and you can actually have two airplanes on parallel runways, I mean, within like 500 feet of each other. It's almost like you're in formation, but you're totally under control. When you go to an airport like this, it's really different, and then when you put in an Army, a black helicopter at night, it would be very, very difficult for those commercial pilots to even see it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good point, good point. This is great information, and I want to remind all of my listeners, and I'm really big on this. Lieutenant Campbell, I mean, the reality is everybody's reeling in. There's all sorts of speculation. People want to believe something in some cases where that may or may not even be true. They see a post. They want to go ahead and further that on on social media. And my advice to folks is just don't do it. Until you know exactly what's going on, don't be that person that forwards something that may very well be false.
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Well, and don't be afraid of aviation. And you look at commercial aviation, it's probably the safest thing on the planet.
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True.
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You know, driving on the interstate or riding in a taxi or riding a motorcycle are much, much more dangerous than riding in a commercial airplane. When you talk about the numbers of when the last major accident was, they are safe. And so people just need to move on. The story will come out. This was unique beyond belief and should have never happened. And it's rare.
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All right, author of My Life Above the Clouds. Let's not forget about that. For those listening, what are they going to find when they get the book My Life Above the Clouds?
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You know, the whole point of that is my life has been unique, but I want to spread the word to kids. Read this book and see how an ordinary, regular guy that grew up in a small town did all of this in his life, and it just tells you, And one of my expressions is, go for it, because there's incredible things you can do. It doesn't have to be aviation, lots of different choices, but don't get on drugs, don't get arrested, don't make these stupid mistakes, and then focus and go for it.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know what? Very well said. Thank you. Man after my own heart. I believe the same way. I mean, I'm like you. I'm a guy that never thought I'd sit in a seat like this. I've been a small business owner, came out of the automotive world, was an auto technician for the majority of my life, and then figured out I needed to learn how to run a shop and not necessarily be the worker in the shop and learn the hard way. And at the end of the day, though, I'm like you. Anybody can do anything they set their mind to. Just decide what you want to do and then go do it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly, and it's the greatest country on the planet. Amen. You can actually do things like that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Amen. Lieutenant Colonel Alan Bullitt Campbell, thank you again for your time. I know it was short notice, but I appreciate you being with us today.
SPEAKER 05 :
My pleasure. Thank you.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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Okay, on Tuesday, by the way, when there were a lot of folks down at the Capitol testifying against the basic outlaw of a lot of guns in Colorado, and it's not just assault-type weapons and things along those lines. It's literally a lot of different guns. While that was going on, This is what Democrats do, folks. I don't know how else to say it. in Colorado. It would increase the legal age to purchase to 21, mandate ammo be locked up and only accessible with the assistance of the vendor, and new regulations around shipping ammo to Colorado, most of which directly conflict with existing federal laws. The bill has not yet been scheduled for a public hearing, but it has been assigned to the House Business Affairs and Labor Committee. So, like Democrats do... While something's going on over here with one hand, and everybody's distracted doing that, they're over on the other side doing this. Slime balls. Slime balls. No other word for them. These people have no scruples. They do not care. Their goal is to have an outright ban on guns and ammunition in the state of Colorado, like all lefties want, all Marxists want. It's the only way they can take over is to de-arm us. Trust me when I say that. That is their end goal. And these people will stop at nothing to make that happen. Total, total slimeballs. All the more reason why... We've got to have a better plan of attack in Colorado when it comes to elected officials and how to get them elected. We've got to have somebody at the helm. Yes, I'm talking about the Colorado GOP. We need someone at the helm that will actually have a mission and a plan and the ability to make things happen because we don't have that right now. And despite what anybody else out there would say, and there's people out there trying to counter what I say here on a routine basis, they're doing their best to try to change that narrative of what I have in regards to our current leadership. Good luck. Good luck. You're preaching to your own. You're not even trying to reach those that aren't listening to you, which, by the way, there's a lot that don't. And the reality is your comebacks and your rebuttals to the things that I talk about on a routine basis, A, they're falling on deaf ears. B, they're completely false. They're wrong. They're inaccurate. They're not correct at all. And I will encourage any of you that are listening that are on that side, call in and debate me. More than happy to. I'll even do it when Andy's not here. More than happy to have a debate on any of these things. Because keep in mind, even prior to Andy, I was the one calling for Dave's removal before Andy. Andy got on board after me. So those of you that, by the way, criticize Andy for his stance on things, I was first. I was first. I called for Dave's removal long before anyone else, especially in media, did. Now, most media in Colorado, besides a few podcasters that frankly don't amount to anything, outside of those folks, everybody wants him gone because he's done nothing but tear this party apart, not bring it together, despite... what some of you might think. And in your fallacy of wishes of what you think might actually be true, you're completely wrong. And that includes you, Hope. Hope Scheppelman, the vice chair. You're completely wrong. You're delusional in your thoughts. You're thinking one thing, and it's not true. It's not factual. And the data will show it. And you'll say the data proves your point. No, actually, it's quite the opposite. So we need solid leadership in Colorado that will help defeat some of the things that we're up against. As I just said a moment ago, which I haven't even heard anybody yet talking about this particular ammunition bill that has been submitted and is now going to go to committee. This is the kind of stuff that Democrats do, and we have to be better on our side at defeating these things. But, folks, when we have really no presence at the Capitol, which we don't, I know we've got a few people down there that will do their very best, and I'm very happy they're there, and I'm not trying to beat them up at all. It's hard. This is like that football team where the other team has already scored 50 points and you haven't gotten across the goal line yet. It's a very defeating place to be in, and it's a very hard thing to do, go to the Capitol every day knowing that the other side outweighs you that much. So I admire those that are going down and doing their very best to represent us as conservatives in Colorado. And, yes, I appreciate each and every one of you that do that, and I wish we had more of you. And I wish we had leadership that thought enough of you even to help others like you get elected because we would rather spend money at the Colorado GOP on attorneys and legal fees and dumb stuff like that rather than actually help local candidates get elected and do what we can to coach and instruct and help them with all of those things. We don't. We don't because we don't have anybody that's a true leader. And by the way, this includes those folks that are on that side, even some of the folks I just mentioned that are out there in quasi media roles. They're not leaders either. They're wannabes. They're not leaders. Trust me, they're not leaders. And if you want to know what it takes to be a leader, go read some of the leadership books that are out there, mostly by John Maxwell. And then you tell me if these individuals, Dave himself, are leaders. I will tell you that, no, they don't fit the definition in any way, shape, or form. Not in any way, shape, or form. So I know I hammer on that a lot, but it matters. I talked to a good friend of mine the other day that was asking me, hey, I hear you talk about some of the stuff going on inside of the Colorado GOP, and can you explain to me why you feel the way you do and why it's such a big deal? I know you do a lot of that on air, but just one-on-one, how does this work and why is it such a big deal? So I went through. my thoughts on everything and how we can get some folks elected and how there's times we need to probably not be. And I know some of you on the on the right, the hardcore right are going to have a hard time with what I'm going to say here. But in some cases, you can't be as principled as you are or you're not going to win that election. And we need to win elections. We need to still take somebody that's eight out of 10 and get them in office and not worry about whether they're a 10 out of 10. And yes, that's that's my strategy. That's me talking. And I know that goes against the grain of what some of you out there listening may think. But trust me, I'm right. You're wrong. You will not win and get across the goal line doing it the way you're doing. It's proven. The data shows it. And if you don't believe me, go look at the data for yourself. It's not that hard to figure this out. So, yeah, the conversation I had and I explained everything. And by the way, when I was done explaining things after about, I don't know, 10 minutes or so, it was like, okay, that all makes sense. I get that. Yeah, that's what we should be doing. And I may talk about this a little bit more in the next hour, but the reality is we're not doing those things because we don't have leadership in Colorado at all because, A, they don't know what being a leader really is, and they for sure don't know how to implement things. And this has nothing to do even with the money sides. 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All right, next hour, Stacey Washington's going to join us at the top of the hour. We've had her on before, and she is a ball of fire. We'll talk to her next, so don't go anywhere. By the way, she's host of the nationally syndicated SiriusXM radio show, Stacey on the Right. So we'll talk to her in just a moment. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We'll be right back.
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Thank you.
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I'm a rich guy.
The latest episode engages in a riveting discussion on the enigmatic presence of RFK Jr. and his departure from traditional Democratic views. John Rush, alongside esteemed guests Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House, tackles the week's hot topics, including the unprecedented hearings and RFK Jr.'s controversial stance. They provide an in-depth analysis of how these events illuminate the fracture lines in today's political landscape. From Big Pharma's influence to RFK Jr.'s unique perspective on health care, join the conversation that questions the very fabric of political allegiance and the pursuit of genuine reform.
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And happy Thursday, everybody. Welcome, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory with us so far. Steve House will be joining us here in a minute or two. Dr. Kelly, welcome.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thanks for having me, as always. It's been an interesting week watching these hearings. I've been watching as much of him as I can, particularly the one with Robert Kennedy Jr. So I'm hoping we will get into some of that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
We absolutely will. And of course, for all of you, and I'll get into this a little bit later, I've got a special guest even that's going to join us to talk about the. American Airlines and the Black Hawk helicopter that crashed last night. Our prayers go out to all the family members of because as we know now, Dr. Kelly, no survivors, which if you were watching any of that last night, you could have pretty much figured that one.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, there's some pieces of this puzzle that are clearly missing. I was watching it with great interest last night and reviewed multiple, multiple different angles on that collision. It is inexplicable to me. Clearly, the helicopter did not make any maneuvers of any sort to avoid it, despite the fact that they've been contacted, apparently. about 30 seconds before the collision by the air traffic control. So something doesn't add up here. It is absolutely tragic. All 67 people involved, three on the helicopter and 64 on the CRJ, all perished in this tragic event. But there's a piece of this that's clearly missing.
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Yeah, and again, like I said, everybody listening, stay tuned. After we get done with this hour, I've got a special guest that has been in that world in the past and has flown these types of helicopters and so on, a retired lieutenant colonel. So you can imagine some of his experience. We'll talk to him as we move through the rest of the program. Oh, Steve is with us now as well. Steve House, welcome. How are you, sir? Hi. I am doing well. How are you guys? Doing very well. And it has been definitely an interesting week. So, Dr. Kelly, you said a moment ago and that really where I wanted to start anyways was, you know, the confirmation hearings. And I talked a little bit about this yesterday, you know, letting people know that we would get into this in more detail today. And I guess I'll just start this way, Dr. Kelly. And, you know, RFK Jr. better than any of the other two of us, myself and Steve. But with what's gone on and the attacks from his own party, when does he change the D to an R?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think he really has. He has made it very clear that he has left the Democrat Party. He hasn't said that he is officially now considering himself a Republican, but he clearly has said that he's no longer a Democrat. He said in in. He has many words that the party is no longer the party that his father and his uncle supported. He's been a lifelong Democrat, but they have abandoned him. And he went through a litany of reasons why he can no longer, in good conscience, consider himself a Democrat. And he did that back when he decided to withdraw from the presidency, his run for the presidency. So I don't know if he will actually officially declare that he's a Republican, but it's clear where his allegiance lies. He has been very, very loyal to President Trump so far. He's done a spectacular job, I believe, in handling the ridiculous onslaught of assaults and insults that have come from people in the Senate during these hearings. It is clear that they are not interested in hearing his particular answers or position on anything. They are simply interested in hurling pejoratives. and insulting him, calling him everything from a conspiracy theorist to a climate extremist. They don't really want to know where he stands on any particular issue.
SPEAKER 04 :
Steve, you have all three of us, given your political background and so on, could most likely back me up on this, but his uncle couldn't get elected in the Democrat Party today. Am I wrong?
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No, you're not wrong about that at all. The question that we've got to ask pretty soon is, so what's the point of being part of a party? The real answer is it's because you have political resources that go out there and help you get elected, right? And there's processes to get on ballots and other things. But anymore, every day something more happens that pushes us away from needing the party's help because many times the party doesn't support you because you're different than whoever's running the party. So Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard, Donald Trump in some respects, You know, they can run their own thing. They don't need the party anymore to do that. And I think we're going to start and see, especially with the way media is, I just don't know how parties are going to exist in the future. What I care about is what do you believe and what are you willing to do? And I frankly believe in Bobby Kennedy's case. I just walked out of a hospital talking to people who are, you know, strong R's in a very Republican area. As far as they're concerned... He needs to save health care. And Bobby said it the other day in this confirmation here. There's very few people, if anyone, who can do what he needs to do or what needs to be done outside of him. I don't care if he's a Democrat, Libertarian, Republican. I want the man to fix health care or it's going to die. And I think that's what matters now.
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I can't argue any of that. Dr. Kelly, before we get into some of what Steve just said a moment ago, because I do want to dig into some of that on how does he go about doing some of these things, but I also find it ironic, and granted, there's been a lot of people that have called this out, not networks, of course, but A lot of the other media that, by the way, the current White House and the press secretary are now inviting in to actually be in some of these press secretary briefings and so on, which I found really refreshing when she said that a couple of days ago. But reality, Dr. Kelly, is there's a lot of folks out in the nontraditional media calling out these folks that are going to these senators that are going after RFK Jr. by basically saying, isn't it ironic you're the ones on the biggest dole from Big Pharma?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, absolutely. I mean, many, many people have called them out. Certainly I have. And you've got people like Nicole Shanahan. uh... need our case that right work choice as vp you're quite okay look we know we're going to call you out we are going to expose you to millions and millions of dollars certainly people like elizabeth warren bernie sanders and many others to millions and millions of dollars from big pharma over the years and they're clearly trying to protect their you know ability to feather their nests and to continue to get this money uh... it's But another thing I was going to point out with regard to your question whether Bobby Kennedy now considers himself to be a Republican, whether he does or doesn't, the reality is we have people weeing from the Democrat Party. They recognize that the Democrat Party has let them down. They have failed to make life better for anybody. You've got not only Bobby Kennedy, but also Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi sat in Congress as a Democrat. She is a lifelong Democrat. She's now being confirmed. These are really, as the head of DNI, these are really important cabinet positions, and the fact that they are going to be occupied by people who had been lifelong Democrats who have now seen the light and said, We want to put our time, our talent, and our resources behind Donald Trump and what he stands for. It does not bode well for the future of the Democrat Party.
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Question for you, Steve, and I do think at the end of the day, and I could be wrong, I think this one's going to come down to the wire just like Pete's confirmation was where you may have J.D. Vance being the tiebreaker when it's all said and done. I do think RFK Jr. will get confirmed, but again, I think it's going to come down to the wire. Your thoughts?
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I do. I mean, you know. I haven't heard – somebody asked me today, what's the status on Murkowski and Collins because they seem to be the ones that always, you know, we're worried about. But if McConnell and Graham have already stated they won't support Kennedy, I mean, I think it's perilous a little bit for him. But at the same time, I don't know what the alternative is. I mean, I just don't think – I kept thinking, who out there other than Bobby Kennedy would do what needs to be done, which is, you know, we've been talking about if you do health right – then health care and hospitals especially are going to suffer during the transition because the money is going to be spent on getting people to be healthier. Right. And not just, you know, you know, fixing them when they're broke. I really believe he's the only guy that can pull this off. I mean, you know, they say, you know, Caroline Kennedy of there's 330 million Americans is the only guy we can choose. Well, quite frankly, it may be. So I don't know if he'll make it, but if he doesn't make it because the Republicans don't allow it, because that's the only way you can't make it here, the Republican would have to stop it. If he doesn't make it, I have a hard time thinking I'm not going to be really, really disappointed in the Republicans and the people like Lindsey Graham who stopped it because it just isn't the thing to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
If that ends up being the case, Dr. Kelly, have you heard through the grapevine what a second choice is or has that even been discussed? Do you know?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I communicated with Ron Johnson on Tuesday this week, and he acknowledged that he was not certain that they have the votes. But as I said to him, I think there are a number of Democrats who will vote for Bobby Kennedy, people like John Fetterman.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, true. Good point.
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So I think we have the ability to lose some of these rhinos, as despicable as they are, and I find them absolutely abhorrent, people like Lindsey Graham. who are voting because of their self-interest in continuing to get money from Big Pharma. I agree wholeheartedly with Steve. I have come to believe that Bobby Kennedy is the only person who can fix this because of his unique background and his ability to understand not only the science, but more importantly, the way these things work. He has sued these big companies. He knows how to clean the house. He knows how to really fight for safety and fight for the environment. So he's got a great pedigree for this. Anybody who votes against him, I can guarantee you, is not voting on the basis of what is best for this country, for our children. and for the health and welfare of American citizens. They're voting to protect their own interests and their own bank accounts. And they should all be primary.
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I fully agree. Go ahead, Steve. Hey, John. I mean, I think I'm in the process of writing something about the intersection of health and health care where they're both sustainable in the future and it's, you know, financial and all this. But I would also say that the day they turn him down, if they turn him down, is you're going to see something from me that says the day that health care died. Because unless we embrace health, unless we stop doing what we're doing, over-regulating health care and allowing big pharma to dominate because people are so sick they have to depend on it, it'll be the day that health care died. And we'll have to look at a different strategy going forward. So I think it's that important.
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back on this Thursday edition. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House. If you're listening to us for the first time, we have been doing this hour on this day pretty religiously. We've missed a few here and there, but not many over the course of the past four years, literally since 2020. So if you guys want to know more about what we've done during this hour, go back and listen to some of the past episodes, which there's hundreds of them up. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. And you can find a full page dedicated to Dr. Kelly there as well and her background and all that we have been through literally since COVID and all of the things we're talking about today. And, Dr. Kelly, back to you. Literally everything we've been talking about today has a lot to do with what we've been covering over the past four years. And this is where, you know, RFK Jr., for some of his faults, and there are some things he and I do not agree upon, but in general – The things that we have been discussing, he is right there with us across the board and is now literally, I hate to say it this way, but it's almost like he's on trial for the things that we've been discussing the past four years. Am I wrong in the way I'm saying that?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I think that's exactly right. And in fact, you know, it was one of the Republicans, Tom Tillis, I believe it was, who asked Kennedy if he was, quote, a conspiracy theorist. And Robert Kennedy, I think, answered correctly. So no, I've been called that. I've been called that because I said everything from the fact that the shots, quote unquote, vaccines would not stop you from contracting or transmitting COVID, that the masks didn't work, that social distancing was made up. that there was no rationale for the lockdowns. All of the things that we've been saying on this show that Bobby Kennedy was also saying was absolutely pilloried for doing so, was ridiculed and threatened and censored and shut down and called a conspiracy theorist. When it turns out, just like the three of us, we've been proven to be 100 percent correct. There's not a single one of those things that I just rattled off that hasn't been proven and acknowledged, by the way, by people like Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx and Rochelle Walensky and all of the people who have gotten away scot-free. So people like Bobby Kennedy paid a huge price, just as I did, for the five years of the debacle of COVID. He paid a huge price, and he's out there still today defending himself that he's not a conspiracy theorist.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Stephen, during the confirmation hearings, you know, one of the things that he was grilled on to, which I'd like to really just sometimes literally get in the face of some of these senators and literally ask them, you know, you are literally posing questions that. A, will most likely never come up, and B, are the type of questions that literally should go before the Supreme Court to even get answered, because they're really grilling him, Steve, on things like, hey, there's a particular state. They've got a law against abortion. A woman comes in, and she's bleeding. She's in the seventh month of pregnancy, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And at the end of the day, is it correct? And would you, in your particular role— you know, require that state and literally, you know, force them to do things that they may not might not otherwise be doing. And Steve, they give these hypotheticals that, frankly, just aren't going to exist, in my opinion. And if they did, these are questions that need to go on up the food chain. And then they then they throw things out to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as to. well, you know, you have the force of law behind you. You know, you can actually, you know, quote, unquote, become the policeman in these situations. And he's coming back with, like, not to my knowledge. And by the way, Steve, not to my knowledge either.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, so a couple of things. There was a lot you said there. Number one, it technically, after the Dobbs decision, if the federal government tried to enforce a specific policy pro-abortion stance on a state, it would be considered unconstitutional. And he said that. Because Dobbs made it, you know, and back to the states, right? Right. So, you know, that's one thing. And the hypotheticals were a bit crazy, but consider this possibility. If I were writing Bobby's speech or response to questions... When they ask him the question, not necessarily about the woman who was dying in ED, because I think that doctors would make the right decisions there regardless, but he talked about suing the federal government over COVID vaccines for six-year-olds. And what I wanted to hear him say was, look, guys, you've all been concerned about making sure the Republicans know that I am pro-choice. But in reality, I am also pro-life. And the pro-life part of me doesn't want a six-year-old to get a vaccine that's going to cause myocarditis or cardiomyopathy or other turbo cancers. So you can consider me pro-life because I'm going to fight like hell to stop that from happening. And I think he probably saved lives by fighting that battle, and they're still trying to bring him down.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dr. Kelly, again, some of the things they're throwing at him, I literally just want to get in their face and say, you guys are just a bunch of Evil knuckleheads that are being paid by big pharma. You're afraid you're going to lose your payday. So you're grasping at every straw to try to figure out how to not have this guy be in charge because that will affect your payday. And the questions they're throwing at him, literally, I mean, it's a one in a million chance of these things ever happening, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And some of the questions, for example, about abortion are just preposterous. And I think that the only thing Bobby Kennedy could have done better is to say the legislation has spoken, the Supreme Court has spoken. This is now an issue to the state. I, as the secretary of HHS, will have nothing to do with what decisions are made at the state level about abortion. So next question, please.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
And furthermore, the other thing I would have said.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think he did pretty well on talking about, you know, he was pressed on, you know, do you have the authority to enforce basically some of these things? And his answer was, well, not to my knowledge. And of course, the senator, you know, she rolls back. Well, yes, you do. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking, well, first of all, I doubt that's ever been used. And second of all, I would question her on the fact that, you know, does he have policing ability in that role? Because I think he answered that correctly and said, you know, I've got a huge budget and things like that that I'm in control of, but I didn't realize I had a police force at my disposal. Because really, he doesn't, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct. And the reality is, as I said at the beginning, these senators were not interested in getting an actual answer to any of this. They are terrified people that he's going to be confirmed for the reasons we said, because they are going to lose their payday, the gravy train that they've been on with big pharma. Elizabeth Warren really played her hand. She tried to get Bobby Kennedy to agree that he would not take money for suing any pharmaceutical companies for a period of four years after is out of his position as secretary of HHS, which is preposterous. First of all, she has no right to ask him to not take money to do work. But on top of that, he rightly pointed out, he said, you are asking me to not sue vaccine manufacturers. And she's out there, you know, foaming at the mouth saying, no, I'm not asking you to do it. Well, yes, you are, because who in their right mind would try to would sue a vaccine manufacturer and not be paid for it? And if he's not working, you know, the behest of the federal government, he has every right to do that. She's terrified that these vaccine manufacturers are going to get shut down. They are all terrified that Bobby Kennedy is going to reverse the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that has provided blanket liability protection for all of these people. vaccine manufacturers this is terrifying to them likewise and it isn't just about vaccines and big pharma it's big ag it's the fact that we have you know agriculture and the food industry paying these senators for influence the fact that you know how do you get to have your particular product you know in the school lunch program or in the whisk program or the snap program And these senators know that will all go away under a Bobby Kennedy-governed HHS.
SPEAKER 04 :
Steve, I think the other thing that not only they're worried about, but the big networks are, because, by the way, if he gets confirmed and does what I think he'll do in regards to ads that are now run on TV, it will have a huge impact upon big networks. They're already struggling to have any kind of of, how should I say, influence upon the general public. We saw that even in the last election and what the White House just did, the press secretary just did in allowing a lot of non-traditional networks into the briefings and so on. You know, their days are numbered. And if you pull pharma ads, big pharma ads from the network, Steve, those guys are done.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's interesting. I was hoping you'd bring this up because there's another side, as I agree with you, and that's motivation and incentive. I mean, clearly, Elizabeth Warren and the guys that were on that panel, first of all, were childish and foolish and ridiculous because they didn't even let him answer questions. And I wanted to have a serious conversation about it in front of the American public. The other thing is they're getting those questions, and those setups are coming from pharma itself.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I wanted to ask you guys, did you notice? I don't know where you've been, what TV you've watched this week. Have you noticed the PBM commercials for the last week?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I have.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I don't watch a lot of TV, so the little bit that I have. Have you ever seen a PBM? Ever seen one before?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, and I was just going to say, Steve, the little bit of TV that I actually watch, network-type TV, for me to notice that, that means they're everywhere.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, that's right. So they're getting in the game, too, because they know their days are numbered. And, you know, I mean, ultimately, I mean, I don't know how pharma is going to do what they do. But I do know that if it doesn't change, just like we talked about, if it doesn't change, a conspiracy theorist. You know what, John, I already sent your application in for Rush to Reason as an alternative media getting a seat in the White House press briefing room. And I listed you as an alternative conspiracy media just to make sure we had it right.
SPEAKER 04 :
There we go. And, Dr. Kelly, again, Steve's right. And the other thing that he threw into that with the PBMs, the reality is if Robert Kennedy Jr. gets confirmed, it will be, and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this, it will be the biggest shakeup we have seen in health care probably in my lifetime. Am I correct? Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I think you're absolutely correct. There's no question. And I think that there's synergy. It isn't as a standalone. Yes, he will absolutely shake up every one of the agencies that he oversees, which includes the CDC and the FDA and the NIH. All of those agencies report to him. But there's a synergy with the fact that with, you know, Kash Patel heading up the FBI and Tulsi Gabbard as DNI and, you know, Pete Hegseth at DOD. There's a synergy there that is saying we aren't messing around. There will be not a dime spent on stupid DEI programs. There will not be a dime spent on people who are not willing to work in person, you know, at their desk. whether it's in Washington or Atlanta or wherever they're supposed to be. There will not be a dime spent on wasted, stupid research. It is with all of these agencies working in consort. And so I think that Bobby Kennedy's is critically important because that is such a big part of our national expenditure is health care.
SPEAKER 04 :
Steve, and you're on the political side of this more so than, you know, Dr. Kelly and I are. When you're these senators and you're doing your best to make sure he doesn't get confirmed, and yet you've got RFK Jr.' 's old, you know, VP-elect Nicole Shanahan, who is a billionaire, coming out and saying, guys, you go down this path, I will spend every dime necessary to make sure you are primaried out the next time around. How much weight does that hold, Steve?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I don't think it holds as much as I'd like it to, and the reason why is most of the people that she's threatening are in uncompetitive areas. You know, like Elizabeth Warren's not going to lose in Massachusetts. Bernie's not going to lose in Vermont. White House is not going to lose in Rhode Island. I mean, it's hard. I mean, I wish it were true that she could have an impact, but I'm concerned that their war chests are way too big for her money to be a problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
Interesting. And by the way, that's... I was... I was figuring you'd probably say that, but I was hoping you wouldn't because I was hoping that there would be an actual legitimate threat there and it would make these folks wake up a little bit. And Dr. Kelly, unfortunately, as Steve said, you're dealing with old, old, old political money. These folks have become extremely, extremely wealthy doing the things that they're doing. And to your point earlier, Dr. Kelly, they do not want to give that up. This is a big deal to them because of that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly. And so they're going to fight tooth and nail. I am hopeful. The other thing you need to remember is there is going to be hell to pay on the Republican side if you go against Trump on this vote.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you. No, thank you, Dr. Kelly, for saying if there's any of them. And Steve, you can chime in after Dr. Kelly. But if there's any of them that you could probably primary out, it definitely would be on the primary side or it would be on the Republican side, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I think that they're the ones who are a real risk. It's the the Lindsey Graham types. And I don't know that he was planning on running again, but it's going to be really unpleasant there in Washington if these guys go up against Trump on this and vote against Bobby Kennedy, who is such a big pick for them. You know, he he folded on Matt Gaetz. That was his one sort of that he was willing to leave behind. But if they vote and do not confirm Bobby Kennedy, God help them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Steve, your thoughts on that? No, I absolutely agree. I mean, do you think that there's some Democrats who could be vulnerable in one respect? And that is that if. If he does get confirmed and the next couple of years go really well from Kash Patel, from, you know, all the people that we've seen, Pete Hegseth, we do see major changes. Then I think that some of the Democrats, maybe not on Elizabeth Warren, but some of them become vulnerable because they kept saying it wouldn't work. He wouldn't do the job. He wasn't right for the job. And it ended up they ended up being wrong. And so at that point, they may be vulnerable, but I agree. I mean, I don't think you can be a Republican. I don't know, Murkowski in Alaska, it's time for her to go anyway. She's not really a Republican. I also think, I mean, Susan Collins has done some good things over time, but God, these people are in their 70s and 80s. I know Trump is too, but there has to be some turnover and leadership at some point.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's a little different between being one of them, by the way, that keeps going in perpetuity versus Donald Trump, who will be there, you know, four years. Because, you know, in my opinion, anyways, there's a big difference between those two and their ages and what they're going to be doing along those lines. OK, really quick. I got to switch gears because I got a couple of things I want to ask you guys, especially you, Dr. Kelly, in regards to some health things. And Steve, this was a video that you sent out to both Dr. Kelly and I. And question, I guess, Dr. Kelly, is the Marburg virus, which we're seeing more and more coverage on, I guess would be the best way to say that. Give us your thoughts. I mean, is that the next big thing we need to actually worry about, not in getting sick from, but worrying about it in like a COVID-type situation?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, first of all, I don't think there's any reason for people to be particularly concerned at this point about Marburg. It's been around for many years. It's in the family of viruses like Ebola. It's a hemorrhagic fever. has a relatively high mortality rate, and as a result, doesn't spread very quickly or easily. Whether or not they will use it, I think the question you're asking is the important one. They are constantly looking for the next thing to drive fear into the population, to control and manipulate people's behavior, how they travel, whether they work, what they do. And to be able to foist a new vaccine, a new mRNA product on them, because that is always their motivation. So, you know, my bingo card includes Marburg virus, but it also includes Zika and malaria and RSV and bird flu and half a dozen other of these viruses that they could dust off at any time. I am unaware at this juncture, and I think it's a good thing. It doesn't mean it's not happening, but I am unaware that they are doing gain of function research on Marburg, which would be very problematic. Gain of function is any time you take a pathogen, a virus or a bacterium. manipulated in the laboratory to make it either more virulent or more transmissible or more resistant to treatment or anything of that sort. And if they start doing that, which I'm hoping will be shut down quickly, in this new administration, then we could have a problem. But at this point, I think it's a lot of fear-mongering.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Steve House and Dr. Kelly Victory with us. Dr. Kelly, we'll start with you. Will, the fact that Trump has literally ordered communications cut off between CDC and WHO, what kind of a positive effect will that have on us at the end of the day?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think it's very important because one of the things that was done under executive order was Trump leaving, withdrawing the United States from the WHO, something I certainly strongly support for reasons we've talked about many times. But you have to remember, there are an awful lot of people currently working at. In agencies like the CDC that do not agree with that, they are, you know, holdovers from the Biden and even the Obama administration. So the last thing we want is during this interim period before Bobby Kennedy or whoever can get in their clean house. at the CDC. You don't want people going ahead and sharing with their colleagues at the WHO things that we've been working on or continuing to have communication, continuing to collaborate on things. So I think it was very important to say, we're withdrawing from the WHO. Oh, and by the way, you are no longer to work with them, whoever you are at the CDC or the NIH or wherever else.
SPEAKER 04 :
Interesting. Steve, your thoughts. And, you know, you get to hear some more of probably the inside admin end of things. And what's the scuttlebutt there?
SPEAKER 03 :
So first of all, laying people off in the federal government or getting rid of them is difficult at the very least. I mean, it's just not a simple thing to do. Right. I think it'll take time. But I want to go back to Marburg for one quick second and say, look, you don't need gain of function for Marburg to be a problem in the United States. What you need is somebody who has the will to infect five people, 10 people, you know, in a small area or even over a broader area. And then you need the TV news to show them what hemorrhagic fever looks like. People will be scared to death. Do I really think there's people inside this government that would do something like that? We got turbo cancers, a COVID vaccine they knew wouldn't work. I'm not sure. So I'm still worried about Marburg.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK. All right. Your thoughts on the CDC and, you know, Trump basically putting a moratorium there to where they are not to communicate with the WHO, which I talked about the other day. I mean, the reality, Steve, is without the U.S., the U.N. and the WHO, either one exists because they can't fund themselves without us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that, and by the way, what do you mean they can't communicate with them? The WHO, everything they do is basically public. They can't do the private communications for sure. I would just as soon shut it down. I agree with Trump. Don't let them communicate. Put that off limits so that we can control our own destiny and our own narrative, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because reality, Dr. Kelly, and I get lots of things that come my way when it comes to the WHO, and I know in some cases it's probably a little out there, and some of it I have to kind of wonder, is this really what's going on? Although, I say all that to say this, one of the most evil organizations on planet Earth, if you ask me.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, no, the WHO is absolutely corrupt. I thought you were talking about the CDC.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, no, WHO.
SPEAKER 13 :
The WHO is the long arm of the Chinese Communist Party. They have nothing to do with health and wellness. They're concerned with world dominance and control. The head of the WHO, Dr. Tedros, was handpicked by the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, to run that. And the WHO is nothing more than their long arm. President Trump, under his first administration, tried to get us out of it. We got reentered under the Biden administration, and it's taken us nowhere good. They are hand in glove with the World Economic Forum. with the world elites like Bill Gates and Soros and other really bad actors, Klaus Schwab. And we've got to disentangle ourselves from it. The idea that we are spending any monies funding the WHO is absolute insanity. They do not have our best interests in mind.
SPEAKER 04 :
Agreed. Steve, back to you talking earlier about the federal workers being really, government workers being really hard to fire. And by the way, you are correct. I believe it's also why Donald Trump put out, if you would, a carrot where, hey, if you guys want to take this buyout, here you go. We'll get rid of you that way. On the same token, you've got somebody like the USDA inspector general that had to get escorted out of her office because she didn't believe, in fact, she could be fired. I mean, all I can think of, Steve, in that particular case is all-out arrogance where you think you can do nothing wrong and stay in your job indefinitely.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, first and foremost, you got to think about this, right? So Trump puts that out there, puts a carrot out there. And one of the U.S. senators in one of the hearings I listened to said, for all of you who have heard this from the president, just say no. Basically telling him, even though it might be in the best interest of the American people to have these jobs cut and the costs reduced, no, don't say yes. I mean, you shouldn't say yes to this. You should keep going and fight for more money from the taxpayers. You know, that's one thing. I just think you're right that the arrogance is so ridiculous at that level. They want constituents, and they also want a bureaucracy that supports them. It's that simple.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, Dr. Kelly, you've been around some of this to know exactly what we're talking about. You've seen, you've met some of these people, talked to some of these people where, to Steve's point a moment ago, literally, it is absolute arrogance. They think that they are literally above everyone, including the people that are actually writing their check, those of us that are taxpayers, by the way. They literally think they're above the law.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And I think people need to really understand just how inefficient our government is. There's a reason why our taxes are insane and we have the kind of debt that we have. And it's because we have this unbelievably bloated government full of arrogant people who do essentially nothing and live off of nothing. The taxpayers, they're living off of the people who are working at Waffle House and working construction jobs and paying their taxes dutifully every year so that some person can live in a paneled office or work in a paneled office in Washington and do nothing. They do think they're above the law. One of the senators asked Bobby Kennedy was aghast. that Bobby Kennedy was talking about cutting out 600 jobs from the CDC. And this, I can't remember who it was, said over and over again, 600 jobs, 600 employees of the CDC who are looking after our health and welfare. And Bobby Kennedy said, 600. Do you know how many people work at the CDC?
SPEAKER 1 :
91,000.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. There are 91,000 jobs. People who work at the CDC, I think we can get rid of 600 of them without feeling any worse for wear.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I know I'm not in that world. I don't know exactly every little thing they do and so on. But, Steve, I've got to believe that out of 91,000, I think that you and I could sit down and probably trim half of them, or am I wrong?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it's like we talked about last week, which agencies... need to exist is dependent upon what you believe they should do. Tulsi Gabbard talked today about the fact that the office of the DNI is 3,000 people. When it was originally conceived as an agency that was a go-between between the other 18 intelligence agencies, it was an agency that needed 25 people, 100 people. How the heck did it get to $3,000?
SPEAKER 04 :
Unreal.
SPEAKER 03 :
It got to $3,000 because they just keep getting more budget and they keep hiring more people.
SPEAKER 04 :
And yet at the end of the day, Dr. Kelly, they're not doing anything for the average person's health in America. Am I correct in saying it that way?
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct. Let's look at, okay, you've got 91,000 people who work at the CDC, yet they haven't reviewed one autopsy report yet for somebody who died from a COVID vaccine. Not one.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not one.
SPEAKER 13 :
They haven't reviewed the VAERS data. This is their job. You cut 91,000. If you can't run the CDC in this country with 20,000 people, I would cut it down by three-fourths. If you can't do it with 20,000 people, you are doing something very, very wrong.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I cannot. As you guys know, I can't argue that at all. Steve, you know, in the private sector, what government gets by doing, you'd never be able to do in the private sector, even at some of the largest companies out there. Am I right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I'd ask a couple of real simple questions. Number one, are you aware of the fact that 90% of the healthcare dollar is spent on chronic disease and mental health issues? Yes. Number two, how have the outcomes in those categories improved since we have 91,000 people who are working on the center or for the Center for Disease Control? If we're controlling disease, how are we doing it with 90% of the largest health care spend in the world by more than double per capita. What are you doing at that agency?
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Dr. Kelly and Steve, both are to Kelly. I'll let you finish up. Reality is a lot of nothing and or nefarious things against the American public.
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100%. I think they have not been good stewards of our tax dollars, and they certainly have not come through in their jobs to improve the health and wellness of Americans. Bobby Kennedy pointed out multiple times, just again with COVID, we have 4.2% of the world's population, yet we had 16% of all the deaths from COVID-19. in the wealthiest country in the world. Something's very, very wrong, and the agencies that are being paid for by our tax dollars have failed. They are an absolute failure. They need to clear house.
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Agreed. Well, we will see, and I'll let you guys go. We'll see how things go as far as the confirmation goes. For all of you listening, please keep praying. We need this to happen. For all the reasons we've just talked about for the past, I don't know, 50-plus minutes or so, Dr. Kelly, I will let you go first. Thank you very much. And I'm sure we will be communicating off air about what happens next.
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Sounds great.
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Thanks, Dr. Kelly. Steve, you as well. Thank you so much for all of your insight. And yeah, like I just told Dr. Kelly, we'll see what happens next.
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The war did not end on November 4th or whatever the election day was. The war is not over, guys. You've got to stay in the fight. You've got to let senators and congressmen know we need these people leading. It's time.
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It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right. It's time for Florida Man. This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Find Dana everywhere at Dana Lash Radio. Two great ways to stay connected on X on Twitter. I love this first Florida Man from Stories Today. Radio Kane does an awesome job of sending these to me. A Florida man with an ankle monitor tells deputies he can't go to jail. I have a curfew. I got to go back to my house because I've already got the ankle monitor. I'm already in trouble. He went on to also complain that you can't do bleep is the word he said when he found out that you can get arrested while wearing an ankle monitor and under house arrest if you do other bad stuff. There's something amazing about this. He thought that there was some sort of like get out of jail free scenario that if you do something you're not supposed to do, the guy in Winter Haven, but you happen to already be in trouble that you just point to the ankle monitor and you're like, no, guys, they got me. It's fine. You don't have to get me in trouble for this. I'm already in trouble. And they're like, well, no, if you do a bad stuff, then you have to actually also go back to jail. A car crash happened, et cetera, et cetera. The guy is in trouble. I just love the things he said and the way he acted as though he can't possibly have things. It's like double jeopardy to him, even if the crimes are totally different. Amazing. A Florida man pled guilty to assaulting a Dallas-Fort Worth airport gate agent. This is according to the U.S. DOJ. Usually Florida people, some of them, may Florida hard. This seemed to be one of those situations where that would happen. The guy was accused of assaulting a gate agent and pled guilty to it. In the statement, the DOJ said the security cameras captured Keith Charles Owens, 53, repeatedly punching the gate agent in the head. The incident occurred back in October of 2024. I went according to court documents at 4.42 p.m. He arrived at his gate to tell the agent he was late and tried to scan his boarding pass when the agent explained that he had the wrong gate. You're not in the right place, sir. You can't get on board this plane. It's not your plane. Owens lost it. He started cursing, walked away for a bit, came back and attacked the agent. This is surreal. Owens went back to A36 and started yelling at the gate agent, grabbed him by his shoulders and punched him repeatedly in the face, even though he was supposed to board at A35. That feels like the kind of thing where eventually, I hope, with enough time, enough clarity, you look back and you regret the fact that you got that mad. I don't know if that'll ever happen for this guy, but hopefully it does. Florida man was arrested for allegedly calling for a Trump assassination on Facebook as well. One other crazy story out there. This is illegal. You can't go around and do this. Shannon Atkins, 46, faces possible federal charges for essentially asking for something horrible to happen to the current president of the United States. Atkins is also charged with drug possession, smuggling contraband in a county detention center and other stuff. So obviously he's, you know, the cream of the crop in the world in which we all live. But darn it, it seems just insane, again, that these individuals do these sort of things and then assume that there's not going to be any sort of consequences. I wonder how you actually react when you throw that up on social media. You type out the crime and then hit post and then just sit back and look at it and go, this was a good idea. I've done a great thing. Maybe you're something like the ankle monitor dude who just assumes you can't get more trouble if you're already in trouble. So what's the worst that can happen? And well, you can go back to jail. You can have a lot of other crazy things occur. I just can't get over that. The individual thinking that it's no big deal, it'll all be fine. And then, you know, not so much. All right, one last thing, and it's just because I love it so much. Before we take a break, I want to keep playing this audio of Chuck Schumer saying that people are aroused. I don't know if he was talking about Florida specifically or something else, but I can't get over that this exists. Let's use this as a palate cleanser to close out the hour. on the show because, well, darn it, it's awesome.
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People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time in terms of going, trying to get this done. So, yes, I think democracy will have an effect and we are going to keep at it.
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I hope you don't. I don't want you to keep at it. Nothing at all whatsoever. That sounds like a Florida man. I took over the body of a Chuck Schumer and said some things that a Florida man would say.
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It's it's unfathomably sad. First and foremost, it's the kind of thing that we don't see very often here in the United States. And so it's sort of surreal to an extent to know that it happened. There's a second aspect of it, though, that's certainly going to be talked about and I think deserves to be talked about. And that is why this happened. And there are people that think it's horrible to even ask those questions, to wonder how this could be in general. But I don't understand that. And I'll be honest about that. I know whenever anyone thinks... that they're um you know fighting against a conspiracy theory or whatever you want to call it that they seem to think they're doing a good job uh they seem to think like how dare you say that you should be stopped at all call at all costs for the things you say and do uh because they're inappropriate to be said and done and that's insane um and the best way that i can explain this is the only way to get honest answers to get truth is to ask questions If you don't ask questions, you don't get truth. And don't claim things are true when you don't know if they are. But never be afraid to ask a question. Never be afraid to wonder how a military plane that may or may not have been flying in a way where it can't really be detected, although there was communication between that plane and between air traffic control. But if you ask a question why that plane would seem to... Almost by a flight path purposefully crash into a airline plane that's landing a helicopter in a plane crashing in a way that that seemed like it could have been intentional. Granted, not saying it was this absolutely could be a horrific accident and not intentional at all. It's not wrong to ask those things and to wonder that, especially when you have a person like this president trying to remove corruption from our society and wondering how corruption will respond to that. That is something that deserves, I think, to be asked. Caitlin Collins seemed to think it was horrible that President Trump not only called a press conference, showed up at his press conference this morning, but even laid out there. And certainly not the way I'm saying things, but that the cause of this might also be a hiring of an individual that didn't deserve a job. I think that makes sense, too. Here's a little bit of that.
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Do you know the names of the 67 people who were killed? And you are blaming Democrats and DEI policies and air traffic control and seemingly the member of the U.S. military who was flying that Black Hawk helicopter. Don't you think you're getting ahead of the investigation right now?
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No, I don't think so at all. I don't think with the names of the people, you mean the names of the people that are on the plane, you think that's going to make a difference? Does it comfort their families? They are a group of people that have lost their lives. uh if you want a list of the names we can give you that we'll be giving that very soon in coordination with american airlines we're in coordination very strongly obviously with the military but i i think that's not a very smart question i'm surprised coming from you i'm surprised coming from you someone he's uh thought doesn't ask great questions in the past
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What's most amazing about this topic is CNN itself put out yesterday, right after this horrible thing happened, that it's Trump's fault, more or less, in saying that some of the decision-making to pull back on government funding, including even with air traffic control, might have somehow played a part in this, even though it couldn't possibly have. The man has been in office for a very short amount of time. Nothing that he's done has had the impact that CNN was trying to allude to it being. And more so than that, if you go even further, Trump is trying through executive action and other things to make it harder to become an air traffic control person, but also to make sure you're hiring people that deserve the job and not necessarily hiring people that don't deserve the job for a tremendous amount of reasons. A DEI among them. And Trump was not shy at all about this. And I think there's something great about that. Because again, you're not saying out loud that you definitively believe that something did occur. You're saying out loud that it could have occurred and we're not going to pretend it didn't. One of the best examples of this, by the way, in recent history is the lab leak theory about COVID. The amount of people that said it was horrible to say that. And Trump, one of the people who put that out there at the time. But how dare you? And now most of our intelligence community recently updated us into believing that COVID leaked from that lab in Wuhan. So all these years later, When they hope that you've forgotten the way that they fought against you at the start, they want to pretend as though they always accepted it as a rational, potentially likely scenario. And now inevitably the main, you know, belief in what caused all of that. But for now, they're going to pretend with the DEI stuff like it's a horrible, terrible thing to say. Here's a little bit more Trump on it.
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It's all under investigation. I understand that. That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash.
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Because I have common sense, okay? And unfortunately, a lot of people don't.
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The tragedy itself is not funny. I want to make sure that I make sure everyone knows that I'm not even remotely laughing at anything like that. I don't know why, but just the matter of fact way that Trump responds there, I think is incredible. And here I'll say one other thing about media and press. This is the president of the United States. I'm not trying to say that. So you respect him more because media won't do that. And I actually don't really need them to. I mean, look at the way they treated Biden and the amount of stuff they ignored that Biden evidently was doing that you could have easily actually attacked him for. But assume that he might have some decent information that he's going to get briefed by people that know more than you do. The amount of media that so arrogantly seems to assume they know the story better than the guy who's going to actually get the intelligence briefing that no one else has given yet, the non-public information that may or may not ever be public, that we want to be public. It's incredible. The amount of times that I think we've seen this play before and are likely to see it again, and then media has egg on their face for being the idiots in the room, and they don't learn their lesson. They keep going with the, how dare you say that, or how dare you think that, and we'll see what occurs. I want to say one other thing, actually, and I mean this with all sincerity. Just because something like this could have happened, that DEI itself could have potentially been to blame in some way, shape or form. And again, you're waiting for the information to know for sure. It doesn't mean that Republicans or conservatives or people who are willing to say that out loud, no matter what political party they think themselves to be, are also hateful. They're not hateful. I'm not hateful. I just think that you need to tell the truth. Whatever the truth is, you can't be afraid of it. And more and more people seem to pretend as though not only can you be afraid of the truth, you should be afraid of it. You should be afraid of asking the questions that get us there.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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The world doesn't look great for a couple reasons out there and sillier stories. Well, actually, probably you could take these very seriously. AI girlfriends are a trend that is exploding. This is real. Eight in ten men. Well, it's actually not real. The exact opposite. Eight in ten men think they could one day replace people, humans. Mostly out of a survey of 2,000 guys, people that said they were lonely and struggling to find a human being that interacts with them the way that AI does on their phone. There's something about a detachment from reality being so strong that just having fake AI messages on your cell phone feels like human interaction. And that is terrifying. Just one of two. stories out there that makes us worried about our future the other one is a story about an asteroid that's being called the christmas asteroid that has a perilous path ahead of it that might in fact harm us we pray to god that doesn't happen and usually it doesn't happen but it's also a story out there in the world that i couldn't get over relaying to you for some reason whatever reason Super Bowl commercials are going to be $8 million. Most of them will leak online or not even leak, just purposely be put online. The significance of the Super Bowl commercial now compared to before, totally different. It feels tremendously like you've already seen everything. Honestly, even if you stream stuff and I do a lot of streaming television, I think they're putting some of those commercials out there already along before, say, they're going to be out there for regular TV. And a lot of us watch it the other way. So really, none of this is getting debuted. None of this is new and different. So who knows? But that's another story in the world. Another quick five topic. The UK Navy mistook a farting whale, this is real, for phantom Russians trying to track their nuclear submarine. This was hilarious, I guess. Navy officials feared that Vladimir Putin had locked onto them. We have been analyzing the sounds and now believe it to be a marine mammal, a whale, and some, you know, flatulence was what they put out there in the world after for a while thinking that it was something else. It's one of the UK's doomsday subs, apparently, that was worried if it had been located. I wonder how that feels to go through all the procedure, all the elements of this. And it's, you know, a bunch of dudes who will probably find this funny when it's all said and done. But finding out that what you're freaking out about, what you're preparing to interact with is a whale that maybe had too many fish that day. That's got to be something as far as the conversation sitting across the table after it's all over and being like, man, we can't believe we thought that was a real thing when it was, in fact, just a whale farting. I can't get over how stupid this is. Man, I love that topic so much. And probably partially because I was nowhere near the actual version of freaking out about it and then finding out that it was not, in fact, a real risk. And then, all right, one other thing out there that I saw. A study found breakups are harder on men than on women. This scares you in connection to the story about AI, artificial girlfriends who are never going to break up with you. But apparently young people specifically, with a couple weeks until Valentine's Day, were asked about this. And straight men are ones who feel like they have no, quote, emotional support after the breakup. You just own it, man. You just you live in your own world for a few days. You figure out how to move on and then eventually you move on. That at one point was something a whole lot of us as men did and didn't complain about as much as you complain about now. But loneliness, sadness and other things together apparently demonstrate just how difficult this is on men. I will go a step further. because it mentions divorce too. There are ways in which society, I think, does make that harder on dudes, whether it's more challenging to see your kids for a man than for a woman, et cetera, et cetera. So there are a lot of, you know, valuable aspects within this story that I think matter and deserve to be looked at. But for some reason, there's also the things about it that make you just feel bad about the world we live in now, if that's the right word. All right, let's play this audio. Call this a palate cleanser if you want to. This is Democratic Senator Brian Schatz. That's his name. Don't get mad at me. He's out of Hawaii, and he made an insane claim about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. This is just trying to get a pound of flesh by inventing something. This is performative politics to the T. This is nuts. Here we go.
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That RFK Jr. wants to conduct the Tuskegee experiments... on all of us.
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No. You actually even hear behind him, some of the politicians who are standing with him in a video shot of the podium, their reaction to it.
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That RFK Jr. wants to conduct the Tuskegee experiments on all of us. He wants to observe the disease process population-wide. No. But I believe, I believe, Don't know. I believe the Democrats will be united.
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All right, I'll stop it right there. I'm having a very hard time not making fun of the fact that this senator's last name is Schatz. I'm trying very difficult. It's very difficult for me. I'm not going to be able to completely do it. I kind of want to coin a new term when you just speak nonsense into the air. You're, you know... Doing a Schatz. You're pulling a Brian Schatz. Let's make sure to have clarity there. You're Schatzing all over the world in your takes and whatnot. I'm a child. Because this is insane. This is ridiculous. And I'm thrilled. that his name is what it is because it feels tremendously appropriate after that take, after that information is thrown out into the world or lack thereof information is probably what you can call it. But honestly, I don't know why Democrats can't learn their lesson. And the lesson should be that the worst way to garner the attention of the American people to the degree you need it in order to, say, win an election is just crap all over. I'm not going to shats all over the and that's Brian Shatz, by the way, all over the other people involved in this situation. the other people out there in the world, and don't actually provide any sort of solution yourself. Don't give us any real information. Many of these organizations that Trump has put people in charge of need to be overhauled, dismantled, potentially, or at least fixed by going ground up and rooting out all the waste, abuse, etc., etc. That's what I think is happening. Honestly, real quickly, too, about the memo that gets rescinded, the memo that essentially paused a whole bunch of government funding for everything as they get an understanding of whether or not people are going to follow Trump's executive order to remove DEI and other things from our situation, from the world in which we live. This is good. I don't know why anyone would actually care about a slight pause, which is what they said it was, and no one actually took any money directly out of the hands of a human being who was getting money themself for this. He said that money going directly to people was going to continue. It was money going to organizations, to anything else that had to be reviewed and made sure that it follows... the new policies of the new administration. And you know what's great about that too, by the way? Just real quick. If you know anyone in the world of government that gets paid by the government, they sometimes act as though it doesn't matter who's in charge. Like, ah, we're still going to get our money. We're still going to get this over here, get that funding over there, or move these dollars around once we claim they're for this, but we know we're going to be able to use them for something totally different. They essentially act as though there is no check and balance. And so this was, the most profound example of that. And even if it was a couple day example, and that's all it was intended to be, hey, I can turn the faucet off if I want to, and you now know I can turn it off, and so we'll see who actually gets the faucet to stay on and who doesn't. I think that's brilliant. I think that's incredible. And honestly, I'm not a giant Trump fanboy. I might sound like one filling in today on the show, I don't begrudge you if you are one, but I don't call him, or at least during the first term, didn't often say that the moves he made were always the most genius decision anyone's made. But in the first couple weeks of the new administration, I think there's a refinement to how this process goes. What's said to the public, what's said in private, the actions that are being taken. I continue to see... what I believe to be a very focused individual and a very significant individual, certainly not just by being our president, but in general by how he's going about wielding that power. I think there's something new about some of this, even from last time. One of the biggest knocks on Trump, I will remind people of those who voted for him the first time around in 2016. But then I don't know if they were truly unhappy. I can't imagine a lot of them voted for Biden. But one of the knocks on him was that he didn't do the removal of the deep state, the removal of the government corruption the way he promised to. And it feels like this time it's all or nothing, baby. There's a version of that that is occurring and occurring more significantly. And I think that's good, regardless of what else other people, other, well, idiots, in my opinion, have to say about this.
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My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Bunch of stuff to talk about. Let's get to this first. A horrible thing happened in the world yesterday. And I want to touch on, and by the way, just to the studio, I'm hearing myself back. If there's a way we can fix that, that would be... There we go. That's awesome. Thank you. Anyway, something horrible happened in the world. And I'm going to touch on a lot of the questions that people are asking out there. And I'm not surprised they're asking them. But first, we're going to just discuss the... the situation itself and also this crazy almost surreal audio of uh dc air traffic control describing what they saw as the american airlines flight collided with a blackhawk helicopter and went down and as of today we've been told there are no survivors not that that is surprising that update because the crash looked horrific and you fall into freezing cold water, but certainly something where thoughts and prayers doesn't even feel like enough. And I'm not trying to be woke about that. I'm just saying that this is horrific and shocking and quite a few different reactions probably go through lots of our minds. But here, this is how air traffic control sounded as they were trying to describe what happened.
SPEAKER 17 :
Fire command, the accident happened in the river. Both the helicopter and the plane crashed in the river east of the approach end of Runway 33. It was probably out in the middle of the river. I just saw a fireball and then it was just gone.
SPEAKER 22 :
So I haven't seen anything.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that is somewhat impossible to get over, just hearing the description of the fireball. There are videos you can find online on X on Twitter and other places if you want to go looking for those. There's certainly a lot of ways to do that. And I'll say one other thing just quickly before I get into the questions that people are asking part of this discussion. I did absolutely see that there was a husband that was asked, I think, by CNN as he was sitting in the airport very quickly after this occurred. You know what was going on. And there were even text messages shown on the screen. And I think that's horrible. I couldn't get over thinking about that individual still trying to figure out what has happened to their loved one and now being a part of this news media story where their face, their name, and even the texts that were not received by the telephone of his wife who said, I'm landing in 20 minutes and I'm not going to throw the name out there or anything. But there was just something that was horrific about that. Like, leave the guy alone. You don't need that version of a discussion when you in news media don't even know what happened. And I will say that I think the reason the individual spoke to the news is you're searching for answers. You don't know if your loved one is OK. You don't you don't know anything. And maybe you think that this news media outlet is going to give you information that you don't have. And so you're hoping for it. And then you interact with them and you're on the television with them and then you become a face of this. And that I feel horrible for that person. But here's the other thing I want to say. Because it's a Blackhawk helicopter and there's a military-esque connection, because of Donald Trump, the President of the United States' desire to take out all of the horrific things that exist within our government as far as corruption and whatnot, and because we never see this in the United States. We haven't seen an accident like this in many years. Well, maybe not ever specifically like this, but accidents in general to this degree. And so when you have several components, was the Blackhawk helicopter flying dark, meaning that you couldn't pick it up on certain equipment? It was communicating with air traffic control. And actually, there is other audio I can play of air traffic control trying to tell the helicopter what it was allowed to do and what it wasn't allowed to do. And that's kind of crazy in and of itself, too. But what I really want to say about this, and I apologize if I've taken too long to get there, The questions are never wrong. That doesn't mean that they're accurate. That doesn't mean they're correct or factual. But the people who shout down, how dare you ask that question? How dare you say this thing? How dare you wonder if this could have been somehow intentional or someone involved in this crash was someone that, you know, for whatever reason, someone else out there didn't want to be alive anymore. Those simple questions are, And they matter in any situation, not just this one, but any situation, because I think asking questions like that eventually does get the truth or at least attempts to get the truth. We're not asking them. Never gets the truth. If you're shouted down, it's how dare you. It's too soon. It's insensitive or it's this, it's that. And honestly, CNN did something that was crazy insensitive that I saw when it tried to blame Trump for this horrible accident and saying how restricting air traffic controllers is a part of the problem. Although Pete Hegseth, the new defense secretary, has said that he's going to do an investigation into this. And then also your new transportation secretary has said that they're probably going to add more air traffic controllers. But nonetheless, What I think is so interesting about the potential for there to be some sort of tinfoil hat conspiracy theory behind all this to yell at those individuals who are going to ask those questions and say, how dare you do this? You're a horrible person. You're a terrible person for thinking that you need to shut up only allows things that people desire to be hidden to stay hidden. When you ask questions, you potentially uncover the truth, no matter what the truth is. If the truth is completely innocent, if no one did anything nefariously wrong, if this is simply just a horrific accident, all those things can come out as defense against the questions that are being asked. But I don't think asking those questions is simply wrong. But nonetheless, to start the show, I figured I'd mention this a few times throughout the show today, and we will play the other audio. And it's hard to make out a communication between air traffic control with the Black Hawk helicopter saying that it's allowed to fly behind the plane as the plane is trying to land. That plane out of Kansas landing near Washington, D.C., And obviously that interaction, that communication, I don't know what happened there because they're even asking if they can see the plane and you don't really make out exactly how the helicopter responds. But it's just horrific, just a horrific, a horrible thing to have happen. I won't keep repeating that. But even more so, the people who shout down questions in these moments are people I'm often afraid of because those are the people who don't even want you to wonder or ask or be curious and never definitively say with facts. You're lying if you say something is true that you cannot prove to be true. That's something that we know quite often is happening now in the world of mainstream media. But I've never been afraid to ask a question. I don't think you should either. All right, let's move on. Trump got a lot of backlash. A lot of reactions to trying to pause funding within our government for a bit to figure out how much of it is wasteful and how much of it is actually good. He went and responded on television yesterday trying to dismantle the media narrative about what was and wasn't frozen. And I thought this was excellently done. Donald Trump 2.0, President Trump 2.0 is intriguing to me. I assume he's intriguing to you, too, but the way he handles himself, he still does the things that media obsesses about. He still behaves the same way you're used to Trump behaving. But there's a clarity. There's a focus as well in some of these moments that seems better than what you had a few years ago.
SPEAKER 25 :
Announced in 2015 and we won in 2016. We did very well in 2020, but we did really well just recently. And I'm restating right now to correct any confusion that the media has purposely and somehow for whatever reason created Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid have not been affected by any action we're taking in any way, shape or form. We are merely looking at parts of the big bureaucracy where there has been tremendous waste and fraud and abuse. In that process, we identified and stopped $50 million being sent to Gaza to buy condoms for Hamas. $50 million. And you know what's happened to them? They've used them as a method of making bombs. How about that?
SPEAKER 03 :
That is crazy that that is a completely accurate statement by the current president of the United States and also something that gets laughed within the audience because you wonder to yourself, we're spending $50 million on that? We're sending taxpayer money there for that reason? That makes no sense, and obviously it doesn't. But he goes on to say that, of course, Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, they weren't impacted. Many of the things that the mainstream media claimed were happening weren't. Even the discussion about funding for medical research is completely different than reality. Any sort of pause, any sort of attempt to understand what's going on there doesn't have the level of impact that people claim it's having if you're actually trying to weed out all of the wasteful spending. And there's a ton of it. And they found some of it with just a couple days window and they will continue. So that seems to make sense, too. Even if the memo gets rescinded and gets covered crazy in media, the actual desire for people to follow executive orders hasn't hasn't changed.
SPEAKER 25 :
One other thing from Trump real quick. Their home as federal employees, they must meet a high standard. They're representing our government. They're representing our country. If they don't agree by February 6th to show up back to work in their office, they will be terminated and we will therefore be downscaling our government, which is something that the last 10 presidents have tried very hard to do but failed. That's true. Most of the people we're talking about have not been going to their federal offices in many, many years from even before COVID. But they have nevertheless been paid. Some have worked. Some haven't worked. And most of the studies say that some have just gone through the motions. We may ask these people to prove that they didn't have another job during the...
SPEAKER 03 :
so-called employment with the united states of america because if they did that would be unlawful sound the problem and a lot of people who work from home uh... double-dip uh... in that world and they double-dip here to us yet that's great from trump and honestly if you save a bunch of money by weeding out the wasteful spending in our government you should make a lot of taxpayers happy. A lot of Americans should be thrilled that our money isn't going to terrible things. Nonetheless, that is just one of several topics out there today. Lakin Riley's mom made an appearance during Donald President Trump's press conference yesterday. We'll get to some of that audio a little bit later. And Chuck Schumer, in what is for some a difficult day to find levity after a horrible thing happened yesterday, he provided a whole lot of it. He said aroused. More times than I've ever heard a politician that is Chuck Schumer or anybody like him use that word. And the way he used it, even better. We'll get to all that in a bit. This is Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Lots of stuff to talk about out there. Let's do a quick five.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, one of the first topics that I saw that I thought was pretty funny, AI commercials are going to be all the rage at this Super Bowl. Apparently, one of the biggest things... Sorry, I'm getting that feedback again. If we can get that out of my ear. There we go. One of the biggest things that you'll be seeing with 30-second commercials now hitting $8 million in cost is companies that are either working in AI... or even AI that has helped to create said commercials because it's ridiculously cheaper than, say, buying actual talent. Will we be able to detect those things? Will they annoy us? We will see. But the Super Bowl is going to try out a whole bunch of artificial intelligence-created commercials, and they're going to be nuts. A woman was arrested on 15 different charges. Many of them sound somewhat repetitive, but 15 feels like a lot. It feels like she and P. Diddy have some things in common. Her name is Bridget Fawcett. None of her crimes are the same as Diddy's. I should make that clarification. And her bond is only $11,250. You feel like if you have that many charges, the bond would be higher. Three counts of vehicular eluding, second-degree burglary, third-degree motor vehicle theft. first-degree criminal trespass with the intent to commit a crime, etc., etc. Some of the crazier ones are two counts of speeding 40 miles over the speed limit and speeding 25 to 39 over the speed limit. Hit them for both. Also, drugs, alcohol, and other things probably being in this woman's system. Unsurprising there. Was a Van Gogh painting sold at a garage sale? That's a real question people are asking. The Wall Street Journal had a story about this. A team of specialists are trying to figure out if a $50 sale was actually an iconic painting not done by Hunter Biden. Certainly not for this amount of money. Well, maybe the $50 because it's actually worth $15 million if it is, in fact, the authentic Vincent Van Gogh painting. Why are my yard sales not full of this stuff? Why don't I ever interact with this? And then finally, one last one that I saw and loved out there. Twix is offering you a chance to win two gold bars. I think you have to skip some Super Bowl commercials in order to do it. What I find hilarious about that is Bob Menendez was also in the news. I'll talk about him after the break in a little bit. But apparently, Twix is trying to give you your Menendez gold bars in order to promote their products. Okay, they didn't make that connection, but I did, and it's awesome. Quick break. A little bit about Bob Menendez coming up in a bit. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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SPEAKER 03 :
My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Lots of stuff to talk about out there in the world. Of course, one of the biggest topics of conversation right now is the horrific crash that occurred, the American Airlines flight crashing into a Black Hawk helicopter that was flying a training mission with three military members on board. There was a press conference. Donald Trump is certainly not afraid, President Trump, of press conferences. I can't even picture, in all honesty, president biden um having you know so few press conferences in general and this isn't meant to to pivot the conversation we're definitely going to get to the topic at hand but but going out there and speaking himself i feel like this would have been handled by others uh trump and jd vance uh spoke uh several things important were said uh there was a back and forth with caitlin collins of cnn because of course there was and we can actually start there um but here's some of the information that was provided today
SPEAKER 18 :
We don't even yet know the names of the 67 people who were killed. And you are blaming Democrats and DEI policies and air traffic control and seemingly the member of the US military who was flying that Black Hawk helicopter. Don't you think you're getting ahead of the investigation right now?
SPEAKER 25 :
No, I don't think so at all. I don't think with the names of the people, you mean the names of the people that are on the plane? uh... you think that's going to make a difference they are they are a group of people that have lost their lives if you want a list of the names we can give you that will be giving that very soon in coordination with american airlines were in coordination very strongly obviously with the military but i i think that's not a very smart question i'm surprised coming from you that's amazing uh... look first and foremost a horrific thing happened a terrible thing happened
SPEAKER 03 :
Someone made a mistake. This isn't the kind of thing that occurs where everyone made the right decisions. And saying that part out loud the day after is strength. It's not the opposite of that. And desiring to figure out who made the mistake and why they made a mistake, whether it is air traffic control and what they were communicating to both sides. And there's a lot of audio that's available now to dive into that rabbit hole if you want to. whether it was, you know, someone on the on the airplane, the helicopter, the helicopter's decision to stay in the position it's in. Obviously, this isn't without fault. Someone deserves to be blamed. And that's not mean. That's not dark. That's not whatever Caitlin Collins is trying to say it is. It's it's simply being honest. Here's a little more from Trump.
SPEAKER 16 :
Mr. President, on DEI and the claims that you've made, are you saying this crash was somehow caused and the result of diversity hiring? And what evidence have you seen to support these claims?
SPEAKER 25 :
It just could have been. We have a high standard. We've had a much higher standard than anybody else. And there are things where you have to go by brain power, you have to go by psychological Quality and psychological quality is a very important element of it. These are various very powerful tests that we put to use and they were terminated by Biden. You know what's crazy to me?
SPEAKER 03 :
And that is true, by the way, that Trump in office the first time did try to make air traffic control a uniquely challenging thing to get a job in. He did try to do away with certain things that made it easier and wanted to do so again. But what's crazy to me is how often the press is arrogant when speaking to the president of the United States, as if the press has a greater handle on information than what they would brief the president with. Whatever you think about Trump, however you feel about him, pro or negative, as a human, as a person, or as the president of the country, he gets briefed with the deepest level of information before he shows up and speaks. Whether he uses it all, I don't know. Whether all that information is communicated the way that, say, his own team wants him to communicate it, I don't know. But he knows it. And so if he's going to say something like DEI may have played a role in this, I don't think my first response as a reporter and as press would be to be arrogantly defiant to that idea. I would ask him in a different way, what other information can you provide to us now to back up that claim or back up that potential claim? And he doesn't say that it did happen. He says it may have. And there are ways that I think you could probably point to Maybe someone getting a job that didn't have the qualifications of someone else. And then maybe being on a staff in a rotation of people that they're not supposed to be in because they're not as qualified as someone else. And somehow that having an impact on a story like this. But nonetheless, I just love how often media behaves as though we know more than you do, sir. How dare you when he's getting the ground level information before he speaks. J.D. Vance was also there for the press conference and said this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Mr. President, for your leadership. I just want to reemphasize something the President said, and you've heard from the Secretary of Transportation and of Defense. There really was a whole of government response. We were all on the phone. We were all communicating yesterday, trying to get to the bottom of this immediately, but also try to communicate with the American people about what happened. Something the president said that I think bears re-emphasizing, which is that when you don't have the best standards in who you're hiring, it means on the one hand, you're not getting the best people in government, but on the other hand, it puts stresses on the people who are already there. And I think that is a core part of what President Trump is going to bring and has already brought to Washington, D.C., is we want to hire the best people because we want the best people at air traffic control. And we want to make sure we have enough people at air traffic control who are actually competent to do the job. If you go. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
You don't want to have people in positions that matter wherever they are in government just taking money from us and not filling their part of the equation and essentially just throwing that money into the ether and needing other people who are competent who may surround them to pick up the slack. Yeah, that all makes sense. And whatever information comes out about this, whatever discussions are had, I think you have to be open to the idea first. This is difficult for some, not all, probably not a lot of this audience to handle. Open to the idea that someone made a mistake and they deserve blame. You know, I find that crazy. And I'll be honest about this, as honest as I can be. I'm a millennial. I can be pretty honest, actually, so I don't think I'll struggle there. I understand the millennial people who don't like when they get blamed for stuff because of the way that a lot of people were raised in my generation. A lot of people want to skirt blame for anything and everything, and they don't like it when someone else gets it. blamed for a thing, but someone made a mistake and they deserve to be held accountable here. And it's not wrong to be saying that one day after a tragedy. Certainly the families of the individuals who lost their lives are going to want to know who's to blame. And so we'll see more on that later. I thought this was interesting. Former Democratic Senator Bob Menendez was in a lot of trouble. This is because he had gold bars in his house and just jackets stuffed with cash, which was hilarious as far as the story goes. But Democratic Senator Bob Menendez did a press conference yesterday after getting a sentence of 11 years in prison. I think he was even crying in the courtroom as he begged not to be found this guilty and imprisoned like this for his bribery scheme. And he said something that was kind of amazing. I'll see if you think what I think about it. Here we go.
SPEAKER 01 :
Only in the SDNY could you embrace an FBI agent who was caught lying on the stand in order to make their case. Only in the Southern District of New York would prosecutors allow a witness to walk away from over 10 criminal charges, including defrauding the United States government so that they can get him to lie on the stand. Welcome to the Southern District of New York, the wild west of political prosecutions. President Trump is right. Oh, this process is political and it's corrupted to the core.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is amazing. Now, I think Bobby Menendez is definitely a guy who committed a bunch of crimes just personally. He's been convicted of them. It's kind of hard to explain gold bars in your house. But it's amazing as the system may be going after some of these individuals that they're starting to side with Trump. The ultimate outsider to the system is starting to get a lot of praise from the, you know, Eric Adams of the world, the mayor of New York, or people like Bobby Menendez after he goes down for 11 years in jail. And I think what he's actually saying is a whole lot of other people are guilty of crimes, too, and they're not being held accountable. That's what I hear when I hear him say that, you know, this is all political. It's not necessarily that I didn't do this. It's that the kind of things that are happening are fairly common, and only some of us are getting in trouble depending on who they want to hold responsible and who they don't. All right. Let's do a palate cleanser if ever there was one. Granted, it's still politics, but to me, this is amazing. This is Chuck Schumer talking about stuff. All kinds of things. And the way in which he articulates the what he thinks is, you know, movement of the people, the activating of the team is, well, strange to say the very least.
SPEAKER 29 :
People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time in terms of going trying to get this done. So, yes, I think democracy will have an effect and we are going to keep at it.
SPEAKER 36 :
I don't want you to keep it anything, sir. And I'm not surprised when you tell me how long it's been since you've seen something like this.
SPEAKER 29 :
People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time. Sure you haven't. In terms of going, trying to get this done. So yes, I think democracy will have an effect and we are going to keep at it. We're going to keep at it legally. We're going to keep at it legislatively. Please don't. But we're also going to keep at it in terms of the grassroots.
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Okay, I don't want you to do any of that.
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I would really prefer you don't. I don't know why he said that, why he used that word, and why he went that way with it. But Chuck Schumer is excited that people are aroused, and they haven't been this aroused.
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You just repeat the words, and it's hilarious. It's crazy. One last thing. I wanted to touch on this, too, before we take another break. Dana is sick today. She put it out on X on Twitter, D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio. But she was all over. uh, social media last night, which was awesome. And she put out one, uh, well, many very great tweets, but one that I wanted to, to relay to you on her show today. Uh, and you should go find her D lash on social media. If you don't follow her, which I imagine most of this audience does, but you want some real questions asked to RFK jr. And I thought she was incredible about what she put here, too. She's not looking for a pound of flesh. She just wants reassurances. But here, this is part of what Dana put up on X yesterday. I just want one Republican to grow some cojones, I'll do that word for it, and ask two basic questions for RFK Jr., You once described gun owners as a terror group. Do you still hold that view, and can you clarify? You once called oil and gas heads traitors who should be jailed for all eternity and demanded that they be put to corporate death. Do you still hold that view, and can you clarify? Why is clarifying these questions important? She went on to say because HHS has been weaponized to target firearm owners. This is easily true. Remember the push to classify firearm homicide as a health epidemic and the CDC directed directed pause on rents caused during covid. Excuse me. There is always mission creep that includes the animus of the people leading the agency. That's fantastic. And I agree with her that there are tough questions that deserve to be asked of a lot of people, even if RFK Jr. will still eventually wind up, I think, being, you know, put in his position of power as everyone else within Trump's cabinet has been. But I just thought that was really great. And this her show figured I'd relay that one, especially the end explanation of it for anyone that's going to get mad at her. And obviously, Dana's not one to care about that. But she said she's not looking for a pound of flesh, as I said a moment ago. Just reassurances, which is exactly what that is supposed to be for. These questions, these grilling, essentially, of cabinet appointees to make sure that you understand how they're going to behave when in office. Whether or not they tell the truth, whatever, it is what it is. I just think it's incredible. And that is, out of all the stupid things that are being thrown at RFK Jr., this is one that needs to be put out there. All right, we'll take a break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Bunch of stuff out there to talk about today. Puxatawney Phil.
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The groundhog that gets most talked about makes all the other weather predicting groundhogs jealous, probably. He's only the 17th most accurate groundhog, according to some sort of crazy, weird, people wanted to waste their time study that was out there recently. There's even some large squirrels that do quite a bit better, according to this. I find that amazing. We probably have to introduce ourselves to some of the other ones. Staten Island has one named Chuck. He's the best, 85% accurate in the last few years. There's a groundhog out of Georgia named General Lee. He's 80% accurate. And then finally, third place, 75% of the time, Lander Lill. which is out of Wyoming, or Lil Lander. I'm not really sure what it is. Sounds kind of like a rap name. But that isn't actually a groundhog. It's a prairie dog. And apparently she's quite good at this too. I love this. I love that stat just being out there in the world a couple days before Groundhog Day. A Little House on the Prairie is getting a reboot. Netflix will be recreating the show, which I don't know why we're doing that. The original series ran from 1974 to 83. People streamed more than 13 billion minutes of it in 2024. So that's one of the reasons to reboot it. It seems like it's fine just leaving it how it is and not trying to recreate a thing and trying to come up with something new. But darn it, they're going to make more Little House on the Prairie. One other thing that I saw out there that I thought was interesting, this was a BuzzFeed and Reddit list of the common things that people find disgusting. I would probably allow you to play a game if we were doing this a different way, but I'll just give you some of these answers. Number one on the list of things that people find gross but is pretty common is the feeling of lotion on your hands, on your skin, even if you need it, even if things are dry. It's kind of gross, and I actually agree with that one. Toddlers with food on their face, people actually think that's disgusting. I think that probably goes with being a toddler. When people floss in front of you was number three on the list of gross things. You see, I think you can do worse in the world of something that might happen in front of you in the bathroom, depending on your closeness to someone else. That's all I'm going to say about that. When people wear dirty shoes on a couch or a bed, this one drives my wife nuts. If you have shoes on at all in the house, she's going to look at them and be sad about it. Even if she's not actually going to tell you, she's going to be nice. Not tell you to take them off, but those are the rules people. And then finally, one last one on this list, eating runny eggs. I came in at number five of things that people think are gross when you see them. And sure, that sounds fine too. One other thing before we take a break and get back to stuff in a bit. A woman went viral on TikTok. Her name is Catherine Hates Boomers, or that's at least her social media name, for saying that your boss, especially if you have an older boss, a boomer boss, according to her, schedules meetings just to feel important. This went viral. A lot of people reacted to it. You may have a boss that, in fact, does this. Here's the thing I wanted to remind Catherine Hates Boomers. Your boss is important. If they are someone who's in charge of stuff, they are, in fact, important. They don't have to feel that way or they don't have to remind themselves of that. And you might not like that. And that might be a you thing, not a them thing. Even if they do schedule meetings just to talk because they feel like talking, they are, in fact, valuable more so than you at whatever company you're at. So I just thought that was interesting that she went viral. She said some stuff. Maybe I'll play some of this audio a little bit later on in the show. But she is, in fact, correct about a thing that might eventually cost her her job if it keeps making her grumpy, which is a thing that a whole lot of people are. All right, we'll take a break. We'll talk more about some of the biggest news of yesterday and today. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you as Dana's getting better. She's on the mend on social media. You can follow her at DLash at Dana Lash Radio and a bunch of stuff that you should follow all the time right there. Let's do this. There's a lot of reaction to the idea that Trump will put 30,000 detainees, migrant detainees, illegal people here in the country in Guantanamo Bay. And I think this is a brilliant idea. And I'll tell you why in just a second. First, I will tell you that the Cuban president is upset about it. And a lot of other people are upset about this, putting out all kinds of reactions, how horrible it is. San Francisco and their government.
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uh people uh their politicians are certainly very proud of the fact that they want to harbor illegal aliens and break all kinds of rules here we go we know that san francisco is a sanctuary city we will always be a sanctuary city yeah we will be clear the sheriff's office does not and will not take part in immigration raids by any federal law enforcement actions directed towards the immigrant community. Very simple message. If you want a safe city, you must support a sanctuary city.
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That doesn't make sense. Many of the sanctuary cities are not exactly safe. Places like Chicago, they don't scream safety when you think about them. But here's the bigger reason that I think this is brilliant. I want a deterrent. The wall is one said deterrent. There's several other ones. I want people to believe that coming into our country illegally is not a good decision. It's a bad decision because I want the amount of people that are coming here that way to stop. You want to plug the boat. Then you can have conversations about how you change things to make it, say, fair or For someone who wants to get into this country a certain way, if that's not something happening now, you don't do that part first and you don't keep leaving the influx of people who are coming in the wrong way to keep going. So saying that you're going to send people to Guantanamo Bay, a notorious, obviously, location within our world. is brilliant. It's brilliant discussions about these topics and it's willing to push people to understand, all right, if I go there and if I get caught, especially if I do something else horrible, I want to get into that country, I may very well be punished and punished severely. Those deterrents prevent people from doing bad things. We like those things. That's how society works to a certain degree. All right, let's also play this. When you're talking about illegal immigration, we're talking about all those things. Lakin Riley and Lakin Riley's mother may come to your mind. She spoke yesterday at Trump's press conference talking about some of these issues and really said some very moving things.
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We also want to thank President Trump for the promises he made to us. He said he would secure our borders and that he would never forget about Lakin. And he hasn't. He's a man of his word. I trust that he will fight for the American people. Most importantly, I want to thank our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Because without his sacrifices, Lakin's story would have ended on that horrific day that she was taken from us. But because of him, we can continue living knowing that we will see Lakin again.
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Look, I don't know if you know anyone that's lost a loved one younger than them, a child, essentially, and the amount of impact that that has. And especially when you feel like the child was taken from you in a way that is deeply unfair. whether that's the story of Lake and Riley or even some stories I've personally known about in communities I've lived and worked in where tragedy and or question mark thing happens and you wonder to yourself how people deal with The loss. I mean, when you think about the American Airlines flight that went down yesterday and the amount of families that lost a loved one now, and they're going to want answers. They're going to want information and they're going to want people who made mistakes to be held accountable if that's possible. or at least know who those individuals were that caused the problem in the first place, that's human. And I think it's even more moving. And I've known people that said similar things to me about stories I've talked about in my career in broadcasting. Thank you for keeping this person's memory alive. Thank you for not letting them be forgotten. A lot of military individuals that I talk to have said those sort of things to me and others. And so I know that wholeheartedly Lake and Riley's mom believes that and honestly feels that way about President Trump. And so it's incredibly moving, even even more so for that reason. And these stories do matter. Sometimes when you pivot to the emotion, oftentimes I think in the world of politics, you're trying to take advantage of someone's humanity to convince them we need to do something. But other times when you prop up the individual themself that's lived through or fought through whatever the horrific thing is they've dealt with. you might better understand the need to do something. So I think sometimes it's a very good thing when it happens. And that was one of them. And a very moving set of comments made from a mother who probably still can't every day that she wakes up believe for mere moments or maybe for an entire day what happened to her family happened and is still in a grieving process and probably will be for a long time. all right let's play this audio uh... call this a palate cleanser if you want to uh... this is uh... democratic senator brian shat that his name don't get mad at me uh... he's at hawaii and he made an insane claim about robert f kennedy junior this is just trying to get a pound of flash by inventing something uh... this is performative politics to the t uh... this is not here we go that rfk junior wants to conduct the tuskegee experiments
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on all of us.
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No. You actually even hear behind him, some of the politicians who are standing with him in a video shot of the podium, their reaction to it.
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That RFK Jr. wants to conduct the Tuskegee experiments on all of us. He wants to observe the disease process population-wide. No. But I believe, I believe, Don't know. I believe the Democrats will be united. All right, I'll stop it right there.
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I'm having a very hard time not making fun of the fact that this senator's last name is Schatz. I'm trying very difficult. It's very difficult for me. I'm not going to be able to completely do it. I kind of want to coin a new term when you just speak nonsense into the air. You're, you know... Doing a shats. You're pulling a Brian shats. Let's make sure to have clarity there. You're shatsing all over the world in your takes and whatnot. I'm a child because this is insane. This is ridiculous. And I'm thrilled. that his name is what it is because it feels tremendously appropriate after that take, after that information is thrown out into the world or lack thereof information is probably what you can call it. But honestly, I don't know why Democrats can't learn their lesson. And the lesson should be that the worst way to garner the attention of the American people to the degree you need it in order to, say, win an election is just crap all over. I'm not going to shats all over the and that's Brian Shatz, by the way, all over the other people involved in this situation. the other people out there in the world, and don't actually provide any sort of solution yourself. Don't give us any real information. Many of these organizations that Trump has put people in charge of need to be overhauled, dismantled, potentially, or at least fixed by going ground up and rooting out all the waste, abuse, etc., etc. That's what I think is happening. Honestly, real quickly, too, about the memo that gets rescinded, the memo that essentially paused a whole bunch of government funding for everything as they get an understanding of whether or not people are going to follow Trump's executive order to remove DEI and other things from our situation, from the world in which we live. This is good. I don't know why anyone would actually care about a slight pause, which is what they said it was, and no one actually took any money directly out of the hands of a human being who was getting money themselves for this. He said that money going directly to people was going to continue. It was money going to organizations, to anything else that had to be reviewed and made sure that it follows... the new policies of the new administration. And you know what's great about that too, by the way? Just real quick. If you know anyone in the world of government that gets paid by the government, they sometimes act as though it doesn't matter who's in charge. Like, ah, we're still going to get our money. We're still going to get this over here, get that funding over there, or move these dollars around once we claim they're for this, but we know we're going to be able to use them for something totally different. They essentially act as though there is no check and balance. And so this was, the most profound example of that. And even if it was a couple day example, and that's all it was intended to be, hey, I can turn the faucet off if I want to, and you now know I can turn it off, and so we'll see who actually gets the faucet to stay on and who doesn't. I think that's brilliant. I think that's incredible. And honestly, I'm not a giant Trump fanboy. I might sound like one filling in today on the show, I don't begrudge you if you are one. But I don't call him, or at least during the first term, didn't often say that the moves he made were always the most genius decision anyone's made. But in the first couple weeks of the new administration, I think there's a refinement to how this process goes. What's said to the public, what's said in private, the actions that are being taken. I continue to see... what I believe to be a very focused individual and a very significant individual, certainly not just by being our president, but in general by how he's going about wielding that power. I think there's something new about some of this, even from last time. One of the biggest knocks on Trump, I will remind people of those who voted for him the first time around in 2016. But then I don't know if they were truly unhappy. I can't imagine a lot of them voted for Biden. But one of the knocks on him was that he didn't do the removal of the deep state, the removal of the government corruption the way he promised to. And it feels like this time it's all or nothing, baby. There's a version of that that is occurring and occurring more significantly. And I think that's good, regardless of what else other people, other, well, idiots, in my opinion, have to say about this scenario, these situations that go on. It makes sense because the system that's operated for so long, believing itself to be independent of any sort of prevention or at least checks and balances, is getting a tremendous wake-up call. And I think that that will only expose some of the deepest sets of corruption that we've seen. All right, I'll take a break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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The world doesn't look great for a couple reasons out there and sillier stories. Well, actually, probably you could take these very seriously. AI girlfriends are a trend that is exploding. This is real. 8 in 10 men, well, it's actually not real. It's the exact opposite. 8 in 10 men think they could one day replace people, humans. Mostly out of a survey of 2,000 guys, people that said they were lonely and struggling to find a human being that interacts with them the way that AI does on their phone. There's something about a detachment from reality being so strong that just having fake AI messages on your cell phone feels like human interaction, and that is terrifying. Just one of two stories out there that makes us worried about our future. The other one is a story about an asteroid that's being called the Christmas Asteroid. that has a perilous path ahead of it that might, in fact, harm us. We pray to God that doesn't happen, and usually it doesn't happen, but it's also a story out there in the world that I couldn't get over relaying to you for some reason, whatever reason. Super Bowl commercials are going to be $8 million. Most of them will leak online, or not even leak, just purposely be put online. The significance of the Super Bowl commercial now compared to before... totally different it feels uh tremendously like you've already seen everything honestly even if you stream stuff and i do a lot of streaming television i think they're putting some of those commercials out there already along before uh say they're going to be out there for regular tv and a lot of us watch it the other way so uh really none of this is getting debuted none of this is new and different uh so who knows but that's another story uh in the world another quick five topic The UK Navy mistook a farting whale, this is real, for phantom Russians trying to track their nuclear submarine. This was hilarious, I guess. Navy officials feared that Vladimir Putin had locked onto them. We have been analyzing the sounds and now believe it to be a marine mammal, a whale, and some flatulence was what they put out there in the world after for a while thinking that it was something else. It's one of the UK's doomsday subs, apparently, that was worried if it had been located. I wonder how that feels to go through all the procedure, all the elements of this. And it's, you know, a bunch of dudes who will probably find this funny when it's all said and done. But finding out that what you're freaking out about, what you're preparing to interact with is a whale that maybe had too many fish that day. That's got to be something as far as the conversation sitting across the table after it's all over and being like, man, we can't believe we thought that was a real thing when it was in fact just a whale farting. I can't get over how stupid this is. Man, I love that topic so much. And probably partially because I was nowhere near the actual version of freaking out about it and then finding out that it was not, in fact, a real risk. And then, all right, one other thing out there that I saw. A study found breakups are harder on men than on women. This scares you in connection to the story about AI, artificial girlfriends who are never going to break up with you. But apparently young people specifically, with a couple weeks until Valentine's Day, were asked about this. And straight men are ones who feel like they have no, quote, emotional support after the breakup. You just own it, man. You just you live in your own world for a few days. You figure out how to move on and then eventually you move on. That at one point was something a whole lot of us as men did and didn't complain about as much as you complain about now. But loneliness, sadness and other things together apparently demonstrate just how difficult this is on men. I will go a step further. because it mentions divorce, too. There are ways in which society, I think, does make that harder on dudes, whether it's more challenging to see your kids for a man than for a woman, et cetera, et cetera. So there are a lot of, you know, valuable aspects within this story that I think matter and deserve to be looked at. But for some reason, there's also the things about it that make you just feel bad about the world we live in now, if that's the right word. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Find DLash, Dana Lash Radio on X, on Twitter, all over the place for Dana on television. Her podcast is great. Just follow her everywhere, as I imagine many people who listen do. Let's do this. A Democratic senator was unaware of how smug and hilariously hypocritical he sounded. Well, I don't know if he was actually unaware. I imagine they don't care. They very much are aware of how how big of idiots they sound like. But anyway, this individual's name is Ben Ray Lujan. He was asking questions to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. And then he had to take a pause. as Kennedy was kind of winning, I think, some of that discussion, to yell at the audience for the signs that they were holding up and the things that they were doing to kind of voice their displeasure with said, Senator, here we go.
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If President Trump asks you to cut Medicaid, will you do it?
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Oh, it's not up to me to cut Medicaid. It would be up to Congress.
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Oh, and I'm going to work. Mr. Kennedy, you don't want to answer? I'll move on. That was the answer. Sorry. I know you didn't like it. Do you know how many states will end? Mr. Chairman, if I may pause my time. So I understand that people are getting asked to leave if they stand up with signs. But there's a lot of other as well, Mr. Chairman. So it needs to be extended to everyone. As Mr. Kennedy said, we should respect each other when we have a difference of opinion. We're just trying to do our jobs here and trying to ask questions. That's all.
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Oh, so many great things happened within that piece of audio. First, he got all upset. He got all butthurt toward the end there when he was realizing that people seemed to not be thrilled with the questions he was asking. And also just the very beginning of the audio, his own reaction to Kennedy letting him know that he's not going to be able to cut those programs even if he wants to, because darn it, he doesn't control the purse.
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If President Trump asks you to cut Medicaid, will you do it?
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Oh, it's not up to me to cut Medicaid. It would be up to Congress. Oh, shit.
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I love that he goes from that ownership of a quick answer to the version of how dare these people say and do things that they're doing in front of me that are making me look bad. I want these people kicked out of here. That's insane. All right, let's move on to one of the most serious stories of the day, something that's certainly important. The American Airlines flight that crashed yesterday into a Blackhawk helicopter that took the lives of everyone on board the flight and all three individuals on the helicopter. It's it's unfathomably sad, first and foremost. It's the kind of thing that we don't see very often here in the United States. And so it's sort of surreal to an extent to know that it happened. There's a second aspect of it, though, that's certainly going to be talked about and I think deserves to be talked about. And that is why this happened. And there are people that think it's horrible to even ask those questions, to wonder how this could be in general. But I don't understand that. And I'll be honest about that. I know whenever anyone thinks... that they're fighting against a conspiracy theory, or whatever you want to call it, that they seem to think they're doing a good job. They seem to think, like, how dare you say that? You should be stopped at all costs for the things you say and do because they're inappropriate to be said and done. And that's insane. And the best way that I can explain this is the only way to get honest answers, to get truth, is to ask questions. If you don't ask questions, you don't get truth. And don't claim things are true when you don't know if they are. But never be afraid to ask a question. Never be afraid to wonder how a military plane that may or may not have been flying in a way where it can't really be detected, although there was communication between that plane and between air traffic control. But if you ask a question why that plane would seem to... almost by a flight path purposefully, crash into a airline plane that's landing, a helicopter and a plane crashing in a way that seemed like it could have been intentional. Granted, not saying it was. This absolutely could be a horrific accident and not intentional at all. It's not wrong to ask those things and to wonder that, especially when you have a person like this president trying to remove corruption from our society and wondering how corruption will respond to that. That is something that deserves, I think, to be asked. Caitlin Collins seemed to think it was horrible that President Trump not only called a press conference, showed up at his press conference this morning, but even laid out there, and certainly not the way I'm saying things, but that the cause of this might also be a hiring of an individual that didn't deserve a job. I think that makes sense, too. Here's a little bit of that.
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of the 67 people who were killed. And you are blaming Democrats and DEI policies and air traffic control and seemingly the member of the US military who was flying that Black Hawk helicopter. Don't you think you're getting ahead of the investigation right now?
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No, I don't think so at all. I don't think with the names of the people, you mean the names of the people that are on the plane? You think that's going to make a difference? They are a group of people that have lost their lives. If you want a list of the names, we can give you that. We'll be giving that very soon in coordination with American Airlines. We're in coordination very strongly, obviously, with the military. But I think that's not a very smart question. I'm surprised coming from you.
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I'm surprised coming from you. Someone he's thought doesn't ask great questions in the past. What's most amazing about this topic is CNN itself put out yesterday right after this horrible thing happened that it's Trump's fault, more or less. in saying that some of the decision making to pull back on government funding including even with air traffic control might have somehow played a part in this even though it couldn't possibly have the man has been in office for a very short amount of time nothing that he's done has had the impact that CNN was trying to allude to it being and more so than that if you go even further Trump is trying through executive action and other things to make it harder to become an air traffic control person, but also to make sure you're hiring people that deserve the job and not necessarily hiring people that don't deserve the job for a tremendous amount of reasons. A DEI among them. And Trump was not shy at all about this. And I think there's something great about that. Because again, you're not saying out loud that you definitively believe that something did occur. You're saying out loud that it could have occurred and we're not going to pretend it didn't. One of the best examples of this, by the way, in recent history is the lab leak theory about COVID. The amount of people that said it was horrible to say that. And Trump, one of the people who put that out there at the time. But how dare you? And now most of our intelligence community recently updated us into believing that COVID leaked from that lab in Wuhan. So all these years later, When they hope that you've forgotten the way that they fought against you at the start, they want to pretend as though they always accepted it as a rational, potentially likely scenario. And now inevitably the main, you know, belief in what caused all of that. But for now, they're going to pretend with the DEI stuff like it's a horrible, terrible thing to say. Here's a little bit more Trump on it.
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It's all under investigation. I understand that. That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash.
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Because I have common sense, okay? And unfortunately, a lot of people don't.
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The tragedy itself is not funny. I want to make sure that I make sure everyone knows that I'm not even remotely laughing at anything like that. I don't know why, but just the matter of fact way that Trump responds there, I think is incredible. And here I'll say one other thing about media and press. This is the president of the United States. I'm not trying to say that. So you respect him more because media won't do that. And I actually don't really need them to. I mean, look at the way they treated Biden and the amount of stuff they ignored that Biden evidently was doing that you could have easily actually attacked him for. But assume that he might have some decent information that he's going to get briefed by people that know more than you do. The amount of media that so arrogantly seems to assume they know the story better than the guy who's going to actually get the intelligence briefing that no one else has given yet, the non-public information that may or may not ever be public, that we want to be public. It's incredible. The amount of times that I think we've seen this play before and are likely to see it again, and then media has egg on their face for being the idiots in the room, and they don't learn their lesson. They keep going with the, how dare you say that, or how dare you think that, and we'll see what occurs. I want to say one other thing, actually, and I mean this with all sincerity. Just because something like this could have happened, that DEI itself could have potentially been to blame in some way, shape or form. And again, you're waiting for the information to know for sure. It doesn't mean that Republicans or conservatives or people who are willing to say that out loud, no matter what political party they think themselves to be, are also hateful. They're not hateful. I'm not hateful. I just think that you need to tell the truth. Whatever the truth is, you can't be afraid of it. And more and more people seem to pretend as though not only can you be afraid of the truth, you should be afraid of it. You should be afraid of asking the questions that get us there. By the way, one other thing that I thought was amazing of just audio that's out there, Caroline Leavitt, I think, is going to crush the job as the press secretary. Did a very good job the other day. um she also popped up on uh good morning america michael strahan asked her a uniquely stupid question and she she did pull no punches she definitely went after the stupidity of it in a 30 second sound bite that i thought was amazing here we go but is there any concern that we risk losing people with years of experience like doctors and and let's say scientists
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Well, most doctors who work in actual hospitals and medical institutions have to show up to the office. We know that employees are more productive and more efficient when they are working in an in-office environment. And that's what this administration expects. And I think that's what American taxpayers expect. Don't forget, it's the American people who are funding this government. And they deserve people who are actually showing up to work.
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Yes, they do. They deserve people who are showing up to work. And even if you can do the over-the-internet version of a medical consultation, you can't imagine that that doctor isn't showing up at some hospital somewhere and doing hands-on work in order to be good at their job. I don't know a lot of people who are exclusively... individuals who are giving online care and no in-person care, because that seems like it shouldn't be a thing in the world of the medical profession. And certainly when we're paying taxpayer dollars to doctors who quote unquote work in hospitals. But I just love that reaction to the question. What if we lose some really great people? some really intelligent ones, some people we can't lose. Why can't they show up at work would be the question back, much like I think a lot of them have to anyway. But what is the problem with asking people who are taking checks from us, from our bank accounts, from our tax dollars to go ahead and show up for the day, punch in and be in the studio for a little bit or be wherever you got to be, be in the hospital in order to get that money? That seems like the lowest request we could possibly give. The bar is as low as it's ever been, and Democrats and media are still pushing back against it, which should say something. It should scream something, in fact, to a whole lot of us, a lot of us who are being shouted down every time we have a quote-unquote conspiracy theory that we just want answers about. How dare you ask the question is insane. As I said before and insane again, and when people ask stupid questions, they should be slapped like that, which was amazing for the new White House press secretary. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right. It's time for Florida Man. This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Find Dana everywhere at Dana Lash Radio. Two great ways to stay connected on X on Twitter. I love this first Florida Man from Stories Today. Radio Kane does an awesome job of sending these to me. A Florida man with an ankle monitor tells deputies he can't go to jail. I have a curfew. I got to go back to my house because I've already got the ankle monitor. I'm already in trouble. He went on to also complain that you can't do bleep is the word he said when he found out that you can get arrested while wearing an ankle monitor and under house arrest if you do other bad stuff. There's something amazing about this. He thought that there was some sort of like get out of jail free scenario that if you do something you're not supposed to do, the guy in Winter Haven, but you happen to already be in trouble that you just point to the ankle monitor and you're like, no, guys, they got me. It's fine. You don't have to get me in trouble for this. I'm already in trouble. And they're like, well, no, if you do a bad stuff, then you have to actually also go back to jail. A car crash happened, et cetera, et cetera. The guy is in trouble. I just love the things he said and the way he acted as though he can't possibly have things. It's like double jeopardy to him, even if the crimes are totally different. Amazing. A Florida man pled guilty to assaulting a Dallas-Fort Worth airport gate agent. This is according to the U.S. DOJ. Usually Florida people, some of them, may Florida hard. This seemed to be one of those situations where that would happen. The guy was accused of assaulting a gate agent and pled guilty to it. In the statement, the DOJ said the security cameras captured Keith Charles Owens, 53, repeatedly punching the gate agent in the head. The incident occurred back in October of 2024. I went according to court documents at 4.42 p.m. He arrived at his gate to tell the agent he was late and tried to scan his boarding pass when the agent explained that he had the wrong gate. You're not in the right place, sir. You can't get on board this plane. It's not your plane. Owens lost it. He started cursing, walked away for a bit, came back and attacked the agent. This is surreal. Owens went back to A36 and started yelling at the gate agent, grabbed him by his shoulders and punched him repeatedly in the face, even though he was supposed to board at A35. That feels like the kind of thing where eventually, I hope, with enough time, enough clarity, you look back and you regret the fact that you got that mad. I don't know if that'll ever happen for this guy, but hopefully it does. Florida man was arrested for allegedly calling for a Trump assassination on Facebook as well. One other crazy story out there. This is illegal. You can't go around and do this. Shannon Atkins, 46, faces possible federal charges for essentially asking for something horrible to happen to the current president of the United States. Atkins is also charged with drug possession, smuggling contraband in a county detention center and other stuff. So obviously he's, you know, the cream of the crop in the world in which we all live. But darn it, it seems just insane, again, that these individuals do these sort of things and then assume that there's not going to be any sort of consequences. I wonder how you actually react when you throw that up on social media. You type out the crime and then hit post and then just sit back and look at it and go, this was a good idea. I've done a great thing. Maybe you're something like the ankle monitor dude who just assumes you can't get more trouble if you're already in trouble. So what's the worst that can happen? And well, you can go back to jail. You can have a lot of other crazy things occur. I just can't get over that. The individual thinking that it's no big deal, it'll all be fine. And then, you know, not so much. All right, one last thing, and it's just because I love it so much. Before we take a break, I want to keep playing this audio of Chuck Schumer saying that people are aroused. I don't know if he was talking about Florida specifically or something else, but I can't get over that this exists. Let's use this as a palate cleanser to close out the hour. on the show because, well, darn it, it's awesome.
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People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time in terms of going, trying to get this done. So yes, I think democracy will have an effect and we are going to keep at it.
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I hope you don't.
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I don't want you to keep at it. Nothing at all whatsoever. That sounds like a Florida man took over the body of a Chuck Schumer and said some things that a Florida man would say. But darn it, that was really Chucky. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about. Find Dana everywhere. DLash, DanaLashRadio, two great ways to stay connected on X, on Twitter with her and all the things that she's up to. Let's do this today in reaction to the horrific accident that happened yesterday. The American Airlines flight and the Blackhawk helicopter that collided, taking the lives of everybody on board of both. Trump has announced a new FAA veteran to lead that organization.
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They are working tirelessly to figure out exactly what happened. We will state certain opinions, however. I'm also immediately appointing an acting commissioner to the FAA, Christopher Rochelieu, a 22-year veteran of the agency, highly respected. Christopher, thank you very much. Appreciate it.
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Thank you very much. And I appreciate it as the words back to the president on that for putting him in a position of authority. And this certainly demonstrates the huge difference between, say, moves that Trump is making and media will give him no credit for where you're finding people that have deep amounts of understanding and connection to the agency they'll be in charge of and what Biden did. When he was in charge, there's audio going viral of a nominee that Biden put forward for the exact same position who couldn't answer questions. This was back in 2022. Eventually, this individual, I think, withdrew their candidacy for said job. But here we go.
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Mr. Washington, can you quickly tell me what airspace requires an ADS-B transponder?
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Not sure I can answer that question right now.
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I don't know. OK, we'll just keep going. So that's a that's a pretty important part. So what are the six types of special use airspace that protect this national security that appear on FAA charts? Sorry, Senator, I cannot answer that question. So what are the operational limitations of a pilot flying under basic med? Senator, I'm not a pilot, so. But obviously, you'd never see the Federal Aviation Administration. So any idea what those restrictions are under basic med? Quickly.
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Well, some of the restrictions, I think, would be high blood pressure. Some of them would be it's more like how many passengers per airplane, how many pounds in different categories.
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Many even have to explain the questions. Again, Trump went on in a press conference today to remark about DEI and how it could potentially be to blame in some way, shape or form for horrific things like the accident that occurred. There are a lot of other people who might ask if some sort of conspiracy theory could wind up being true on this. And I think asking questions is important and is smart and is never a bad thing and shouldn't be shouted down even a day after something horrific happens. But don't present those questions as if they're statements of fact. That part matters too. But a lot of mainstream media and other outlets are Already up in arms about some of the potential reasons that are being floated or put out there in the world. And again, I think these type of questions actually get you to the truth. Let me put it this way, and I'll play some more Trump audio in a second. If someone is lying to you and you look them in the face and go, OK, thanks for the information, you never get the truth. They're never going to tell you what actually occurred if the way you respond to lying is, thanks so much, man, can I have another? The way that you respond to lying where you actually get real information is to go, you know, I don't think that makes sense. Or to at least say, well, what about this other person? Is this at all plausible? And then they have to react to that one, too. And you gain more information. But here's Trump talking about DEI and some of what may be to blame for the horrific accident that occurred yesterday. And then getting an immediate reaction from the media that thinks he's a terrible person for saying this out loud.
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It's all under investigation. I understand that. That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash.
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Because I have common sense, okay? And unfortunately, a lot of people don't. We want brilliant people doing this. This is a major chess game at the highest level. When you have 60 planes coming in during a short period of time, and they're all coming in different directions, and you're dealing with very high-level computer computer work and very complex computers. And one of the other things I will tell you is that the systems that were built, I was going to rebuild the entire system and then we had an election that didn't turn out the way it should have. But they didn't build the systems properly. They spent a lot of money renovating a system, spending much more money than they would have spent if they bought a new system for air traffic controllers, meaning the computerized systems.
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Look, here's the thing, and I find this is very important to mention. We have a lot of close calls in the world of air traffic control right now. You might not be aware of that, but it's true. And there are even videos that go viral occasionally of almost terrible things that luckily, thank God, didn't happen. But you see planes just missing each other. And that's a mistake by someone in an air traffic control situation of saying, go ahead and land when you shouldn't be landing. And whether it's telling the helicopter where it can fly, telling the plane when it can land, getting something wrong is horrific and obviously incredibly important. And so Trump is pulling no punches and shouldn't be pulling punches because, again, asking those questions matter. You know who agrees with this, by the way? The simple philosophy of of no question is in and of itself bad or inappropriate. If you actually are after getting the truth and not just trying to be a performative lunatic, then darn it. This is a good thing. Bernie Sanders, apparently, although he immediately becomes a performative lunatic after saying it, he was talking about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and about President Trump. during the hearing yesterday and he started his question by saying something that a lot of people who are not on his side of the political aisle will agree with care system is broken and it's broken for some of the reasons the mr kennedy indicated we have not paid attention
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to the fact that we have massive amounts of chronic disease. We have not answered the question why in the richest country in the history of the world, our life expectancy is lower than it is in countries far poorer than we are. Yes. So I think in many ways, President Trump And Mr. Kennedy has asked some of the right questions.
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Great. Asking the right questions is important. I paused him before he went crazy, and I'll let him go crazy in just a second. Because again, and this is what I'm saying about the DEI discussion or even potentially something more nefarious in the world of the crash yesterday, asking those questions gets you closer and closer to the truth where ignoring them doesn't.
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Problem is their answers will only make a bad situation worse. I don't think so. So let me ask Mr. Kennedy again. out there if we want to make america healthy uh... will you are sure the american people that you will fight to do what every other major country on earth does guarantee health care to every single american okay if our health care isn't a good if the americans who have access to its aren't getting the version of it that bernie sanders thinks he deserves
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Why would the first thing you decide to do be to give that health care to more people? Why wouldn't you try to fix the thing that you're providing before you just dole it out in larger numbers? That's a simple question. That's a valuable question. That's not one Bernie Sanders wants you asking. But I love this back and forth, and it's only going to get crazier for Bernie Sanders and all involved. And honestly, I feel like if you shout enough, Like if you go crazy enough in a political sense, you should eventually be able to like attack the other person. And I don't mean violently. I don't. Well, there's not going to be a way to do it nonviolently. What I mean is maybe do it like gladiator style, like put both guys. And I'm talking about the American gladiators. I'm a millennial after all. Put both guys on the jousting pad and give them the foam things and have them swing at each other. And whoever gets knocked off the jousting pad, that person loses. And the other guy wins. Because this gets to the point where I would really like to see Bernie Sanders and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joust. I took a long walk to my joke there, but I liked it. I hope you did too. More Bernie going nuts.
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I'm going to make America healthier than other countries in the world right now.
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Will you guarantee do what every other major country does? It's a simple question, Bobby.
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And by the way, Bernie, the problem of corruption is not just in the federal agencies.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's in Congress, too.
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Yes, it is.
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Almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry.
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Oh, no. And protecting their interests. Oh, I thought that that would come down. I love that that would happen.
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I love that he got applause for that. I love that that's amazing. And again, at this point, you need Blazer and Taser to walk out and invite both of these guys under the jousting pad. A little bit more from Byrne.
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I ran for president like you. How dare you? I got millions and millions of contributions. They did not come from the executives, not one nickel of PAC money from the pharmaceutical industry. They came from workers. 2020.
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In 2020, you were the single largest... Because I had four contributions from workers all over this country.
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Nah, buddy, come on. Be more honest about that. Bernie Sanders, it's also hilarious to mention whenever he rails against all the different corruptions he sees in the world is that he's a millionaire, a multimillionaire worth a bunch of money who spent a lot of time in the political system How does that happen, Bernie? How do you get that much money? How does it go that way? But nonetheless, I love that. And I love the back and forth of all of this. And honestly, yeah, I would like to see us be a healthier country. And let's go back to the start because Bernie admits what's happening is good. Asking questions is good. Putting people, he didn't say this part, in positions of power who are not going to just do same old, same old and have a bunch of friends that they want to protect is also a good thing.
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The care system is broken. Yes, it is. and it's broken for some of the reasons the mister kennedy indicated we have not paid attention to the fact that we have massive amounts of chronic disease have not answered the question why in the richest country in the history of the world our life expectancy is lower than it is in countries far poorer than we all let's answer that so i think in many ways president trump And Mr. Kennedy, I've asked some of the right questions.
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I would have loved it if it just stopped there, because I agree with him wholeheartedly. And then getting to those answers might take time. I get those answers might be multifaceted. One of the things I'll tell you, as far as the information I've seen on this, in some other countries, medical professionals are motivated to have good outcomes for their patients, financially so. You make more money if you're doing good things health-wise for the people you're treating. The United States is unique in not having that as a requirement. You get money if you ask for a bunch of tests. That is something that gets you paid well, or you provide a lot of medical care. Whether that care is actually making someone better or not is something we can all debate until we're blue in the face, and I'm not going to outright accuse the entire community of not doing its job of trying to make people better. But it's not good when the money part is handed out just for doing work that may or may not actually be saving and helping people. And in some of those other places that Bernie Sanders is referencing, some of the other valuable countries in the world as far as medical care goes, you get compensated for treating people successfully. So is there a way to provide that without, say, socializing all of health care, which is what Sanders wanted to do? I think those questions deserve to be asked. And even more than anything else, just having transparency in the cost of things would matter. Because if you're sitting in a doctor's office and a doctor says, you know, you're not really in need of this test, but I'd like to have this test for you. Let me go ahead and order this test and see if it comes back a certain way. And you get to look up on the big giant board of charges and go, you know what, for a few hundred bucks, I'm going to go ahead and pass on that. I'm going to go ahead and take that one. That part makes sense to me. And that's nonexistent here in this country, too. And it should be. Those are some of the things that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would like to do that other people are too afraid to do because they're too much on the inside of these systems. All right. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Let's fire off a real quick Quick 5.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick 5.
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All right. There's going to be some football mentions in this. But first, an Ohio man bought a street for five grand. Now the city would like it back. The guy's name is Jason. He thought it was the deal of a lifetime for five thousand dollars. He bought a street at an auction in Butler County. The city then said, hey, this isn't good for us. We're going to need you to give that back. We'd very much like it. The drama began in October of last year. There's been all kinds of things since. And he said, essentially, I bought something fair and square and they've shut me out of it. Probably shouldn't should not sell your streets for five thousand dollars at auctions. If people are going to show up and be allowed to bid on them, they might do things once they think they own stuff. All right. Another thing that I love out there are the weird prop bets. I probably will dive a little bit into Super Bowl betting before I end the show because I can't help myself. But when you look at just silly prop bets. There's a lot of great ones out there for non-sports gamblers and degenerates to pay attention to. Will a player or coach cry during the national anthem? You do not get good odds for going yes on that. You're going to have to pay $430 to make $100. You get great odds if you think no, if everybody's just going to hold it in until after the national anthem, although people do often cry. Will Travis Kelsey propose to Taylor Swift is one out there. I know even the name T Swift annoys a lot of us, but you're getting great odds. If you say yes to that, you bet a hundred, you get $500. So that seems pretty good. You got to spend up to a thousand almost in order to win any good money. If you say no. So a whole lot of people seem to think it's not going to happen, but Hey, if it does, you could be rich, baby. Kendrick Lamar's halftime show guests. Who will they be? Will there be a power outage is another bet that has a giant benefit if you go yes on that. You just throw a dollar on it. You can make $160. Any non-quarterback to throw a touchdown is a big one. And any offensive lineman to score a touchdown as well in there. These are the kind of things that if they happen... make you wonder if maybe a ref has some sort of money on the game, especially any sort of profits involving Patrick Mahomes. That's going to be something people pay attention to. I'll talk about that more in a bit. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Yes, follow her YouTube podcast, all the places you can find her on television and whatnot. Also, D. Lash and Dana Lash Radio, two great ways to stay connected to her. The Dana on X on Twitter. Tulsi Gabbard is certainly a strong, independent human being, which as a woman is something that a whole lot of people on the Democratic side of the aisle love to. I usually love to, you know, celebrate, be happy about. This is an opportunity for woke to do its woke thing. Not that Tulsi is asking for that. And yet they're not going to, of course, because she's a bad guy. She's on the wrong side of the political aisle. This is part of what she said at her confirmation hearing today. Pretty great stuff.
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Before I close, I want to warn the American people who are watching at home. You may hear lies and smears in this hearing that will challenge my loyalty to and my love for our country. Those who oppose my nomination imply that I am loyal to something or someone other than God, my own conscience, and the Constitution of the United States, accusing me of being Trump's puppet, Putin's puppet, Assad's puppet, a guru's puppet, Modi's puppet, not recognizing the absurdity of simultaneously being the puppet of five different puppet masters. That's good. The same tactic was used against President Trump. Yes, it was. And failed. The American people elected President Trump with a decisive victory and mandate for change. The fact is what truly unsettles my political opponents is I refuse to be their puppet.
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You go, girl. I feel like that's the right thing to say in response to this moment. Isn't that what people use anyway? Yeah, she's going to be attacked ad nauseum and was attacked a whole lot today for being a terrible person, even though she seems like a very tough, no-nonsense human. She also said this about terrorists and dictators.
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I have no love for Assad or Gaddafi or any dictator. I just hate Al Qaeda. I hate that we have leaders who cozy up to Islamist extremists, minimizing them to so-called rebels. As Jake Sullivan said to Hillary Clinton, quote, Al Qaeda is on our side in Syria. Insane. Well, Syria is now controlled by an Al Qaeda offshoot, HTS, led by an Islamist jihadist who danced in the streets on 9-11.
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Yes, go after those people, please. Go after them hard, and it would be great to see you do it. Chelsea Gabbard seems utterly appropriate for this job. She also has asked a lot of questions about Edward Snowden. This was probably one of the more notable back-and-forth moments within her confirmation hearing, which shows that she's also really good at navigating the nuances of an issue. Here we go.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Gabbard, Edward Snowden does stand out as having done particularly grave harm to our national security by revealing top secret information, including sensitive sources and methods, thus jeopardizing agents in the field. So let me ask you a question. If confirmed would you support or recommend a pardon or any kind of clemency for Edward Snowden?
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Thank you for the question Senator Collins. If confirmed as the Director of National Intelligence my responsibility would be to ensure the security of our nation's secrets and would not take actions to advocate for any actions related to Snowden.
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So the answer is no. Is that correct?
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Correct. Yeah, if you need the no, I'll go ahead and throw out the no there. But Tulsi Gabbard, not afraid to do or say whatever she thinks she's going to do or say. Usually something, again, the left likes to celebrate when it's a woman that does that. I'm not trying to be sexist. I'm just being honest. They're not going to celebrate it in this sense, again, because the wrong individual or the wrong belief system, I guess, of the person saying these things. Let's also do a little bit of Kash Patel, who's also having a confirmation hearing today and some of what he dealt with from Senator Dick Durbin.
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Leonard Pelletier was in prison for 45 years. He's 80 years old and he was sentenced to home confinement. So he's not free, as you might have just suggested. He killed two FBI agents.
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That's true.
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He did. And he went to prison for it.
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Yeah. And then he got out because Biden commuted his sentence, which makes no sense. And Patel thinks that's wrong. And I agree with him that that's wrong. And I love that Dick Durbin is trying to defend that while also trying to go after Kash Patel. Look, to be honest, and just to say this one more time before pivoting to something else, you need people from the outside who are willing to actually go after and attack the brokenness of our systems in order to fix them. You need a ground up version of working on things to make them better. That sounds like what a whole lot of people who have been nominated by Trump and are very likely to wind up in positions of power. are going to do. And that's going to be a good thing. And that should be considered a good thing, even if a lot of mainstream media is acting like it's a horrible, terrible thing. Something else out there that I really just like, this is Good Morning America. The new White House press secretary already leaving some people kind of surprised, not me so much, at her willingness to say certain things or behave a certain way. She was asked a uniquely stupid question on Good Morning America from Michael Strahan, and her answer was about as awesome as it gets.
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But is there any concern that we risk losing people with years of experience like doctors and let's say scientists?
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Well, most doctors who work in actual hospitals and medical institutions have to show up to the office. We know that employees are more productive and more efficient when they are working in an in-office environment. And that's what this administration expects. And I think that's what American taxpayers expect. Don't forget, it's the American people who are funding this government. And they deserve people who are actually showing up to work.
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I do feel that way. I would like you to show up to work to get my dollars. I also just really love the question from Strahan where he looks at her and goes, what about like doctors and scientists? Because you could have oversimplified that even more. Smart people. Are we going to lose smart people? We might lose them. What do you think about that? And then you actually contextualize it and say, well, a lot of these people should probably be in an office setting or a hospital setting or some sort of workplace setting. In order to do these things, we're paying them money to do. So, no, we're not worried about losing smart people, long tenured ones. In fact, we're actually really excited about getting people that want to do their job and not just take money from us as a byproduct of this. But I do love that. And I love the reaction to it, too, because we're in for a treat. I think forever long she winds up being the White House press secretary. All right. The one last thing that I do want to play, and Trump talked quite a bit about DEI in a press conference he gave today, reacting to the horrific American Airlines crash with a Blackhawk helicopter carrying military personnel that happens yesterday. Before you even play any audio and people try to attack the things that Trump is saying, just realize that how different of a world we're in now than just a few weeks ago, that a day after something like this, the president takes a press conference and answers questions from the press, even press who vehemently disagree with him and don't have the level of information he has because darn it, he's the president of the United States. He is going back and forth with the press. This is what they want. This is what they beg for. No matter how they shape the narrative and how dishonest and crap sometimes so much of their own version of events is after they attack whatever it is that this president says, the fact that he's actually willing to do it is profoundly new compared to what we had to deal with for four years. Not so new if you go back a little further than that. And that's great. That's awesome regardless if you think he's a good or a bad guy. It's just kind of amazing. Having done this job for a while, when you show up the next day to work after something horrible happens and it's President Biden in charge and you know he's not going to speak or he's going to do some very taped, canned thing at the end of the night with no press being able to ask any questions unless they're written on a piece of paper and probably submitted in advance, you know how much better this is just from a media or journalist standpoint in general.
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It's all under investigation. I understand that. That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash.
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Because I have common sense, okay? And unfortunately, a lot of people don't. We want brilliant people doing this. This is a major chess game at the highest level. When you have 60 planes coming in during a short period of time and they're all coming in different directions and you're dealing with very high level computer
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Yes, and very difficult things to manage. You want people who are good at this job to do it, and you don't want to hire and celebrate people based on something other than their ability to do the job. That's the thing about DEI that I will never understand. And I'll put this out there and I'm not trying to get the bad guys, you know, a roadmap to do their job better, whoever they are, whatever they're doing. If you hire someone based on something other than their capability of doing a job, why would you ever tell anyone about it? Why do you need the political win, the political score? Because it makes Trump's comment about common sense make profound sense. Make, you know, it's the obvious move or the obvious conclusion. In this scenario, because you say to yourself, man, we shouldn't really be celebrating and highlighting the fact that this person got hired because of what they look like or because of their race, ethnicity, whatever it might be, their sex. We should be grateful that they're great at their job or we believe they're going to be great at their job. And if they aren't, they get canned. They get fired. They don't get to stay in that position of power, that position of importance. And it's just surreal that we so often have that. But again, for media to be reacting so negatively to Trump, and he's not definitively saying something. He's saying that it's his belief or his conclusion that this could have been or likely is a cause, a potential problem. There are also a lot of people who are asking if somehow this was intentional, and they're being shouted down and told to shut up by a lot of mainstream media and others out there for being reckless conspiracy theorists. And yet, if you don't ask questions, you don't get answers. So asking questions is, I think, a smart decision. No matter who you are, no matter how crazy the question is, and getting an answer that disproves it helps us understand what really occurred. It helps us get to the truth, essentially. But I just think this is sort of amazing. And it's so profoundly different than what we had just a few weeks ago, as I said, to start this. that I couldn't be more grateful, regardless of if you like the guy or hate the guy, think what he's saying is true or false. The amount of conversation now and the way in which it's going to evolve, profoundly different. And if you think you can disprove a narrative, go do it, whoever you are. The media outlets are there. The ability for you to get a whole lot of coverage to your position is there. Go bring the receipts and show us what the truth is, and people will pay attention. All right, quick break. A little more coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Dean Lash, Dana Lash Radio, two great ways to stay connected to her. I watched a lot of football over the weekend, last weekend, so forgive me, can't help it. Going to do a few quick things about the Super Bowl. Just general information out there. The commercials are something that people are probably going to see a lot of before the Super Bowl happens, and there might be a lot of AI information featured in what's being advertised, which is weird. But when you talk about the actual game itself, and again, can't help it. This is where my mind's at. So we're going to go a little deeper than normal here on this kind of topic. The Eagles are being given a point and a half. So the Chiefs are the favorite. If I were a betting man, which darn it, so many of us are now in the world of sports, I would go Eagles on this. They're much better at covering the spread than the Chiefs are. Actually, if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl, they will be the worst team against the spread in the history of the game, since we've been paying attention to that. I don't know if you care, but I do. So I think the Eagles outright have a great chance to actually win this game for a variety of reasons, man. Saquon Barkley looks unstoppable. The Eagles' run game looks unstoppable, even if, candidly speaking, the Chiefs are a much better run defense than the Eagles have played so far. But let's do some other bets. because we're degenerates, and I can't help thinking about this before I get out of here today, and I just can't do any more politics. I think I'm sick of it for now, and this is darn it more fun for me. Jalen Hurts, right now you can bet to have over or under 212.5 passing yards. A lot of smart people, a lot of people in Vegas are going with the under there, because Jalen's not throwing for a bunch of yards. Although I do believe that in a game like this with the expectation that they're going to run the football a whole lot, there's a tremendous chance for them to have some really big down the field, you know, just let them loose kind of plays. And you have two really great wide receivers playing for this Philadelphia Eagles team. So I think there's a chance for a lot of home runs. So I'm going to go over on that. I'm telling you to go over. You make more money that way. Again, I know I shouldn't be doing sports betting down the show, but I can't help it. As far as Chiefs running back Pacheco goes, under 30.5 rushing yards is pretty significant of an under bet. This is mostly because he's probably not going to be the starter in the game after getting hurt earlier on in the season. So why not go ahead and take that bet? And finally, Patrick Mahomes being over six and a half rushing yards. A lot of people are going to take the over on that. And you only get a little bit less than a hundred bucks if you bet for that one. And I think that's probably the smart decision. He's definitely going to run for more yards than that, as you saw in just the last game. But yeah, I got football fever, baby. I can't help it. Some other things I saw out there in the world of football, if you care at all about it. Saquon Barkley, ridiculous season that he's had for the Eagles. He could break the all-time rushing record in a season, including the playoffs. For any running back, if he gets 30 or more yards in the Super Bowl, I think he's very likely to get way more than that. So I think that's going to happen. The Chiefs finished the regular season as the eighth-ranked rush defense, but they have struggled against the run in the playoffs. So for that reason, even more so, you think it could happen. And then the over-under on the score in general. Right now, the expectation is that, at least from Vegas, that it's going to be about 49.5 points over and under for this Super Bowl. I think it's going to be way more than that. I think you're going to see a lot of scoring. You're going to see a lot of offense out of both teams, even though their defenses are great, because Patrick Mahomes is going to have to fire the football all over the field in order to keep up with the ridiculousness of the Eagles. They look dominant. They look unbeatable after their win in the NFC Championship game. And yes, selfishly, I did that for the whole end of the show. Just sports because, darn it, it's more fun than the world of politics sometimes and the craziness of human beings out there. This is just a more enjoyable thing for me to talk about. And hopefully it's something that you talked about. And maybe throw some bets out there and go ahead and credit us if we got it right and pretend it never happened. if we got it wrong. I'm telling you to do whatever you want to do, though. I don't know if I should go that far into that world, but I'm excited. Super Bowl should be a lot of fun and should be a great game, and hopefully you're tuning in for more than just the commercials and everything else, and you care about what's happening on the field, and it's not just the time you think you go and pee. A lot of people do, though, I guess. Apparently, I take a restroom break during the game as opposed to during the commercials or during the halftime show. As apparently it's been pointed out on social media, that's the best time to do it. I disagree, sir. I disagree a lot. All right, I'm out of here. Dana should be back tomorrow. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
