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In this episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush hosts Sam Sorbo to discuss the critical issues facing today's education system. From the controversial influence of schools on societal issues to the empowering choice of homeschooling, the conversation reveals eye-opening insights about the true state of American schooling. Sam Sorbo, an advocate for homeschooling, shares her experiences and expertise in helping parents navigate the complexities of educating their children outside the traditional school framework. As the author of 'Parents' Guide to Homeschool', she provides practical advice for parents who wish to take control of their children's education.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We've got a special guest joining us here in just a moment. But before we go to Sam Sorbo, somebody texted in based upon all of what we were talking about last hour. Could I explain how to protect your deed on your house if your house is paid for? Because if it's not paid for, there's a mortgage. The chance of somebody stealing your deed with a mortgage on it is slim to none. I mean, it could have happened. Unlikely, but it could. But it's very, very unlikely. So how to how to protect your deed if your house is paid for. So in a nutshell, go on your county's Web site and you'll find, you know, your account, your deed and so on. And to my knowledge, I don't think there's too many counties now that don't have the ability to email you if any changes are made or submitted. So that's the first thing to do is sign up for any kind of updates on your deed. That way, if somebody is trying to do something nefariously, you'd get an update on that right away. On top of that, I would do this on a monthly basis. Put it on your calendar. Go in and check monthly. Is everything still OK? You can go look again. It's all public information. You can figure out what's going on with your deed and so on. Very, very simple. So just remind yourself, hey, on the first of the month, I'm going to go check to make sure that everything's good at the county when it comes to my deed. Now, on top of that, make sure you've got good copies, which you should already have. But as your house is paid for, you'll have a copy of your deed and so on. Make sure you keep that and probably a couple of extra copies. I would have that in a really secure place and have a couple of extra copies. Put your original deed somewhere where it's secure and then have a couple of copies kicking around. That way, if something were to ever happen... You can go right down to the courthouse and get things taken care of quickly because you've got proof that, yes, in fact, this is me. And no, I didn't enter into any transactions to have this thing changed over. And again, if you're watching things closely, no need, by the way, to pay for somebody to have a service. You don't need to pay for a service to have this done. Everything I just gave you is no different than what somebody else is doing. You're just paying them to do what you could very easily do yourself. So pretty simple. Just do that. on that end of things. And Sam, are you there now by chance?
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Yes, I am.
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Okay, Sam, I appreciate it. Thanks for listening to me kind of roll through some last minute things from the last hour. I appreciate it very much. Sam Sorbo joining us now. And okay, I'll start off asking this because it's in my notes, but it goes right along with the things that I talk about regularly. Are schools doing more harm than good?
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Well, I think that much is pretty obvious at this point. I mean, we see the transgender movement that's taken over in our schools. We see the, I mean, President Trump came out and said we are 40th in the world now. Out of 40 nations, we're not even, like, just low on the list. We are at the bottom, and we are the United States of America. And that makes me angry because we should be still at the top, but we're not because of our schools.
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Right. We are. And, again, I want to make sure I plug this. You are author of Parents' Guide to Homeschool, Making Education Easy and Fun. And through COVID, Sam, as you know, there was a huge – when it came to homeschooling. I think the one thing that backfired for the other side was the fact that kids were home now. Parents were actually able to see exactly what kids were doing, what they were working on, what the homework actually looked like, what the daily lessons looked like. And they soon learned that, wait a minute, to your point a second ago, granted, my tax dollars are paying for this, but I'm not getting my money's worth. I can do something way different. I could teach my kids at home, and a lot of people started doing that.
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Yeah, that's right, and it basically doubled overnight, the number of parents that were homeschooling and the number of children that are being homeschooled. And my concern is that they are just recreating school at home, which is not what you want to do. School is a failed experiment, and I want people to understand this. We've had about 100 years, maybe 120 years of school, as kind of as we know it today. It is a failed experiment. They failed to educate. So do not think of school as education. Think of it as training. It's not even job training. It's obedience training for you. And you are disobedient that you are willing to put your children in a school that made you feel incompetent to teach them.
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Good point.
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And that's what we're, right? No, you're right.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, that's a great point. No, you're exactly right. And, again, you are in great company because I have an utter disdain for the public school system so much that all of the kids that I raised went to a private school. I wasn't able to do homeschooling. Long story. I'm self-employed. I have a lot of things going on when it comes to that. And to be able to stay home and do things along those lines just wasn't in the cards for my wife or I either one because we were running a business. But we still did the alternative to homeschooling. And I wasn't going to send my kids to public school no matter what, Sam, for all the reasons you're talking about.
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That's awesome. Can I speak to that for just a moment?
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Absolutely. Go ahead.
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So you think that you're not capable because you think of school as education, but it's not. The education that you could have offered your children is an education in being a small business person, being an entrepreneur, doing it yourself, understanding how business works. You had so much that you could have taught your children. And I didn't think I just did both.
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I guess you could say, yeah, I did both sides. I mean, you know, one of the one of the rules in our family was when our kids started to be old enough to sweep the floors and do things along those lines. Sam, they were in the business. Trust me.
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Right. Sure.
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Absolutely.
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And so, which is great because you have that mindset already, right? But most parents, they say, so many parents say to me, I could never homeschool. And I say, why? Oh, I don't even know where I'd start. I say, well, what do you think homeschooling is? And they have no idea. They just think they can't. Why? Because they went to school. And what we learned in school is that we can't do anything that we didn't get an A in.
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Great point.
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Which is, A debilitating. It is purposely debilitating us. And so I've reached this point where I've understood, listen, children are intrinsically curious. If you give them the tools to teach themselves, they will learn far above and beyond anything that you can possibly imagine.
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Absolutely.
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And that's what the book is about. Absolutely. It's a parent's guide to homeschool. It really is about setting the parents free from the enslavement of our modern schools, this paradigm that we think that we are beholden to somehow, and we're not.
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No, no, we're not. No, we are not. And as you know, too, and this is something, again, you're more familiar with than I, although I interview a lot of different people from the homeschooling end of things on an annual basis, and the amount of tools for those people that don't think that they've got the ability to do this, the amount of tools now at their disposal today, Sam, even what was around a decade ago and even two decades ago, it is night and day. I mean, to your point, things just exploded during COVID. There is more resources today than there's ever been.
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Yeah, there's so much out there. It's almost overwhelming. And so in my book, I go through the basics. And the basics are children are already curious. Feed their curiosity. Give them classic literature. Give them founding fathers documents. Give them the real stuff. Give them the Bible. And from that, they will learn far and above anything that you could possibly imagine. But be careful with the new stuff. Be careful with all of this newfangled curricula that purports to teach your child things because the new curricula has also been taken over. The producers are producing for the schools. They want to get in the schools because that's the big ticket item to sell to a school. And so you do have to be careful with the curricula that you choose out there. And I put a list in the back of the book also of of ideas for curricula for the kids and stuff like that. But I want parents to understand education is parenting. The job, the role of education in the child's life, education should bring the child into adulthood. You as the parent are perfectly capable of training your child to be a good person, to be an adult, to be responsible, to know how to give, to know how to forgive, to know how to ask for forgiveness. Like you have all those tools. And so, for an example, I want to point out, I was at an event, and there was a multi-platinum Grammy-winning artist, singer-songwriter person. You would know him. He's super famous. And he very proudly said that his child was attending some big-fangled university for music production. And I'm looking at this guy and going, those kids at that school would pay twice as much to study under you. But you're sending your own child... to idiots who can't do it and only teach it to learn what you know in your little finger.
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Good point.
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You see what I'm saying?
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I agree with you 100%. Absolutely. Yes, exactly. You know, there's that old saying, nothing against teachers. I'm going to make sure I always preface that because there are some really great teachers out there, Sam.
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I'm with you on that.
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I never want to be against them, but I will say this. There's an old saying, you either do or you teach.
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Yeah, well, and there are people who love to teach, and that's great.
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That's right.
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And there's a place for them, but it does not supplant the parents.
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Agree.
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And by the way, good teachers will tell you that. And they will, absolutely. And so what we have to do is we have to take back our schools. Now, how do we do that? I have an initiative to put parents on all the school boards. School boards should be comprised of parents.
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Agree.
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They used to be comprised of parents. It used to be that parents would go And and hire. They would go in community. They would get together and they'd say, we need a teacher to teach our kids. And that was how the one room schoolhouse came about. And the parents would band together and they would hire the teacher. By the way, homeschooling does not cost that much. I don't know what people are smoking that they think that homeschooling your child costs an inordinate amount of money, but it doesn't.
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No, and in fact, that's one thing I haven't discussed for a while, Sam, but the last time I checked, and again, you would know this better than I, but you can homeschool a student curriculum and all for under a couple thousand bucks. Am I still correct in that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, it's like a thousand. It's definitely under $2,000.
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Okay, that's what I thought. Okay, all right.
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Without a doubt. Now, if you're signing up for online, the online programs have accelerated and increased their pricing because we have the school choice movements. And the school choice movement is the government's attempt to enter into all the private institutions so that there are no more private institutions to compete with the government institutions that are failing so abysmally. Right. That's their way of taking out the competition. And so all these school choice movements, you know, they say, oh, the money follows the child. No, no. The government follows the child. And, oh, it's no strings attached. Oh, so you're for fiscal irresponsibility in our government? Are you really saying that to me? That's the school choice movement.
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Good point.
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It's a very dangerous movement. They implemented it in Sweden, and 10 years later, homeschooling was outlawed.
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Wow. Yeah, I would.
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Private education.
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Yeah, you'd have to be very, we don't have it in Colorado, even the few movements that have tried to get any traction here. We are so blue, Sam, that I don't see, unless it's mandated on a federal basis, you know, through some other means, you're not going to see Colorado ever do what you're talking about because we're too blue to even start down that path, even though, to your point.
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It's funny because it's a socialist issue. Like, it's super socialist. for the government for parents to go to the government and say hey government give me some money please and the government to redistribute its funds only to parents right right is a super socialist idea but they somehow they've sold all these conservatives on it it is not conservative at all it's obamacare for school gotcha gotcha so you don't feel at the end of the day that does any good whatsoever Unfortunately, it does good for like three years, and then all hell breaks loose, and we lose private education for good.
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I'm assuming that would even, because you've got government money now coming in, it even affects a private institution, parochial, Catholic, Christian schools as well, right?
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Oh, the government money, look, they said in Florida, no strings attached. The first year you got the money, you could go buy a flat screen TV with the money, you could buy tickets to Disney World for the year, you could do all kinds of things. with the no strings attached money. You couldn't buy a laptop for your child, though, for some reason. But still, no strings attached, apparently, right? And then the next year they said, oh, but we do want test scores. What are they going to do with those test scores? I don't know, but they paid for them. They bought them. I mean, this is child trafficking, right? The government pays you for your child. So... And so that was the second year. And pretty soon the government's going to say, oh, but you have to teach LGBTQ parents in the state of Illinois.
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Yeah, because they can put the strings attached as to if you don't do this, your child doesn't get a diploma at the end of the year, basically, or the end of their senior year, basically, right? Right.
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Yeah, or you don't get the money.
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Or you don't get the money that way. That's true, yeah.
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Once you become dependent on the money, come on. So these little private, these little tiny Christian schools, they become dependent on the money. And then they grow. And then they hire more teachers. And then the government says, oh, but you've got to do LGBT. What are they going to do, fire all those nice little Christian teachers that they just signed on?
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No, you bring up some great points that I don't think a lot of times get thought through, because to your point, it's an old saying. The old saying of the golden rule, Sam, it's the guy with the gold rules. It's not doing to others. It's the guy with the gold rules, right?
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That's right. What we ought to be doing is divesting the government of education. Hey, government, butt out. We'll take it from here. Thanks for playing.
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And by the way, I would love that, especially as a person that pays a lot of property taxes on an annual basis through all the different properties I own and so on. Sam, it's an absolute, it's ridiculous the amount of money that we fund. school systems with, and to your point, as we opened up with, the results that we actually get, we ought to all be crying to the rooftops, I want my money back because I'm not getting my value at all.
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Right. It's absurd.
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I mean, I can tell you as an employer, I'm not getting my money's worth when people come and apply for a job. Of course. Young people, I should say. Well, you know what? It's not just young people because we've been doing this now for decades. It's young and old. I used to say it was only the young people that were coming out of school that were that way. Sam, it's multi-generational now.
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Well, that's a cultural issue, right? And that's because we stopped teaching character in the schools. So part of my initiative is to reinstate character building in the schools. And because here's the thing. You cannot teach academics to a child who lacks character.
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True.
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Why? Because he doesn't see the point in learning the academics. True. He has no character, so he doesn't trust you.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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You're right.
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And by the way, character is from the parents.
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That's right.
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The parents teach the child character, but they stop teaching because they were surprised. They were just. you know, pushed aside by the school.
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Right, right. They were replaced basically at the end of the day. I had somebody just texted a moment ago too that said, and by the way, don't forget the homeschooling can be done for a fraction of the time kids are spending in, you know, regular school, meaning there's so many other things they could even be doing to learn life. And, yeah, I think that's something else we need to always remind folk of is you can do what they're learning, you know, in a seven-hour day at school or whatever it is now, seven, eight-hour day, you could do in a third of that time at home.
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Absolutely. And then your kid can focus on getting his pilot's license or starting a business or, you know, rebuilding a car or whatever.
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Right, right. No, you're right up my alley.
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Absolutely. This is why I wrote the book, because the ideas that we have about education are are completely wrong, because they have all been informed by our own schooling. And our own schooling was just obedience training, basically. And so you need to step outside that paradigm. When you get my book, that's what it does. It brings you outside that paradigm. It helps you to focus on your goals for your children, and then you can understand that the education of the children is really about discovering who your children are, and helping them to be the best version of that that you possibly can. And then you have a lifelong relationship.
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In a lot of ways, Sam, your book is helping people get through their own, not the child's fear, but your fear of not being able to do it. Am I right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. Children aren't afraid.
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Because I was going to say, the biggest thing I believe in all of this isn't the kids being afraid. It's the parent, right?
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No, the parent's the one that says, I can't homeschool my child. And it's because they've been debilitated by their own schooling. Here's a funny thing. You know, when you say, oh, I can't do math, you say, I don't have a math brain, right? That's on me. I can't do math because I don't have a math brain. But if you learn how to do math, you credit your teacher. You say, oh, I had a wonderful teacher in school, taught me math, right? We personalize our failures. And yet we corporatize our successes to the institution of school because we know no other paradigm. And I'm here to tell you, if you've done anything, if you've learned anything outside of school, look at that and look at yourself and understand you are a lot more capable than you think you are.
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No, I would agree. I would agree with that. I'm very unique. I was very fortunate to, again, my folks put me, and this is before homeschooling even happened, went to a Christian school at a very early age. And unlike other types of schools, it was not through an additional type of school with a teacher up front. You did a lot of self-learning, Sam, to your point. And so for me. Right. I don't ever say what you just said because I didn't have a specific teacher that taught math, English, science, things like that. We were in a lot of ways, quote unquote, self-taught. It's why I feel today I'm a very good reader because you had to do so much reading at an early age. If you didn't read, you wouldn't understand. You wouldn't comprehend. You couldn't apply. So I was very fortunate. And I feel today I was fortunate not because of the teacher, but the system I was actually in to be able to teach myself how to learn.
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Well, that's the paradigm, right? So that's what we want to offer our kids. We want them to become lifelong learners, and we want them to know that they can teach themselves anything that they want at any time. So our job as parents is to teach our children how to learn. Right. And we can all do that because there's always something you don't know. Absolutely. So you pick the thing that you don't know, your kid doesn't know, and you show them how to go learn it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And then you're done. Absolutely. Like, stick a fork in you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. Sam, it's great. No, this is awesome. I appreciate you joining us and taking time out of your day for us. How do folks get the book?
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Just go to sorbostudios.com. That's where everything is, the books, my podcast also. I do a podcast on education, and I could use more subscribers. You can go to sorbostudios.com. Also, I'm doing a homeschool trip to Washington, B.C.
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Nice.
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It's going to be like a history tour. We're going to see some of the monuments and stuff. It's going to be a lot of fun. That's next year, but you can find that on sorbostudios.com also.
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And it's S-O-R-B-O for all of you listening that want to know how to spell that. And by the way, what you just talked about, we did as a family with our kids one summer and did that entire trip. I guess you could say that the circumference of all the things that you're talking about, and I will tell all of you listening, you won't have a more fun time in your life. It was a blast.
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It is. It's so great. And we did it. That's why I want to bring other people back, other families back to do it. That's awesome. Hey, thanks so much for having me. Thank you, Sam.
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I appreciate it very much. Have a great rest of your day. Appreciate you joining us. And for those of you maybe, again, that don't know Sam, she's actually very famous. She's a person that has been on all sorts of other talk shows, and her husband is very famous. He's an actor. Kevin Sorbo, the actor, and she's done some acting and things as well. So just so you all know, she was at what was she on, Charlie? We were talking about Friday or Thursday, rather. Well, she had a national radio show, but then she was also in Hercules, I want to say. She was one of the voices in the Hercules series that was out for a while. And her husband was Hercules, so there you go. So, very famous, and appreciate her time joining us today, and that's how you can find her. And yeah, if you want to subscribe to her podcast, absolutely help her out some. As you guys all know, education is a big deal to me. We talk about it on an ongoing basis. And she gave a completely different take on the whole school choice thing that, frankly, I don't know that I've ever talked to anybody prior to having that exact feeling on things. And I'll have to process that one. I can't say as I disagree with her, and everything that she gave is a very good point on why we shouldn't have school choice. I'm one that says, yeah, if you can get government out of schooling altogether, yeah, I'm all for that. The question is, how do you do that? So I'll have to listen to her a little bit more. So we'll be back here in a moment. Veteran Windows and Doors is next. 35% up to three windows, 40% four or more. Find veterans at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard joining us now. There was a big event today. Actually, Charlie was even asking me about it a little bit earlier from Apple. And I thought we could take a few minutes today and just talk about some of the updates that they have coming out. Because it's not just on phones. There's several things they're doing across their platform.
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You are correct. Yeah, it's a decent-sized update, Dad, right? And this is their time of year where they come out with it, right? Their Worldwide Developers Conference. So this is different than their release of the iPhone. This is more of a release of their software, right? Because there's kind of two parts of Apple. And this is always nice, Dad, because this is free. You know, this is the free... stuff that as long as you have an Apple device that can accept the update, you're in a pretty good situation to receive that. And so what they came out with today, Dad, is, well, you and I kind of talked about it earlier, maybe the easiest way to talk about it is it's more streamlined, I feel like, which Apple's already really streamlined, right? They kind of have that piece down of their stuff goes really well together, fits really well together. It's actually one of the names of their features, which is continuity. And so they've got quite a few different things. One of the new things, Dad, which depending on if you're in Los Angeles or not and you need this feature, is live translation. And you can basically be talking on the phone to someone, and it will literally sense what language you're talking in. translate it for the other person, and vice versa. And if it does work as they're advertising it, that is a really cool thing, because there are a lot of devices on the market today that, you know, you put two earbuds into people's thing, and it still uses your phone, but it uses an internet connection, and sometimes it's slow, and it is clunky, right? And so if this works as They are intending, I actually think it's got a potential to be a really, really cool feature that a lot of people use. Also, in messages, it's supposed to do the same thing, because right now you can kind of select certain text and translate it, but this way it will do so automatically, which, again, I think is a really nice feature. You and I were kind of talking about some of this other stuff, which in today's day and age, these two features I think are a big deal, which is hold assist, And call screening. And so what hold assist is, is just as it sounds, right? You call the airline or you call your computer company or anything these days, right? Credit card company.
SPEAKER 10 :
You get stuck on hold.
SPEAKER 14 :
It seems like you're on hold for a minimum of 15 minutes, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
You get stuck on hold. You're number 10 in the queue, whatever. They'll come back and tell you that sometimes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. And sometimes, right, some of these places, you'll have the thing where, you know, if you want to receive a call back, although I'm always skeptical of that because I feel like they don't always call you back in the order in which your call was received. Even though they tell you that, I think they're full of, you know.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I usually just stay on the line because I don't want that call back because, again, and that's a whole other conversation because will I miss the call? Will I be on another call when they call back? I'd rather just hang on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, precisely. And that's the point of this is basically through Apple intelligence, and these are becoming more and more common, right? A lot of these AI demos, these artificial intelligence demos, you see essentially people calling restaurants for you. I think Google, they demoed that when they first came out with it, right? Where their computer will call the restaurant, it sounds like, sounds like you, whatever. Well, Apple's basically doing that in this case, just through different means. So essentially, you're on hold, it senses the hold music, and you can basically almost hang up the phone call. And you can go about your life, do whatever you want to do, use other apps, make other phone calls, do other things. And then when the customer service person comes back on the line, they will actually call you, which I think is a super, super cool feature. The other thing that they announced, Dad, is call screening. And I know you're big on this because you get a lot of phone calls from people all the time. And today, I feel like everyone is, right? Because most of us don't have home phones anymore. We're not weirdos like you. And so we have just our cell phones, and we put those out to everything, and so you get all these spam calls, right? Right. Or even if you go give blood. Granted, I love the give blood people, but, man, they are brutal.
SPEAKER 10 :
And they are relentless. They are.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, man, they are.
SPEAKER 10 :
They are relentless.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean... Whoever those people are, credit where credit's due, because eventually you just get me to give in. Well, Paul's screening, and Apple kind of has this built in right now, Dad, right? Where you can sort of decline a call, but then you can kind of see the message they're leaving. Well, this does one better, where you don't even need to pay attention. If Apple senses that this call is from someone that's important, for example, in their demo, they used a flower person, right? Flower guy's there for delivery. He calls, says he's downstairs. You don't know the number. You ignore it. Guy leaves a message. Hey, this is John from Flowers R Us. You know, I'm here to deliver. Well, then once it senses that this person is legitimate, it will call you. You can then answer after seeing it and say, hey, you know, okay, great. You know, I'll be right down or whatever it might be. So it really is a call screening, right? It's like if you have a personal assistant there to help you.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's kind of cool. actually.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think it's kind of a cool feature. We'll see. And then there's filtering messages, live translation. There's maps, which I know you've always talked about. You want those blasted speed traps reported a little bit more consistently, which certain apps do that versus others. And then you and I kind of talked about this, Dad, where So for some of your listeners, they don't know this, but Apple's systems, their operating systems, they're kind of similar, but they all have their unique features, right? Your phone is kind of designed for simplicity. The iPad, right, the tablet is designed for a little bit more robustness, but it's not quite computer, but they're very similar looking and feeling operating systems. But then you get to the Mac itself, and while similar, Dad, it's not quite 100% the same, and there's Well, let's just face it, right? Computers do a little bit more intense work than tablets or phones. And you and I have kind of talked about the future. We won't get into that today. And so one of the things that they kind of introduced is, for example, the iPad operating system, they are getting it to be a little bit more – Well, it really is now becoming a combination of your phone operating system, Dad, and your computer. And for anyone who's used an Apple device, and yes, we'll give Charlie and Andy a hard time, right, because they're on a greeny, the Android. There's just something about their ecosystem, Dad, you and I have talked about this a lot, where stuff just functions really, really well together.
SPEAKER 09 :
It does.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it's sort of hard to explain, but it just functions really, really well. And the way that they're doing it is they're now having the tablet act a little bit more like a computer. but you don't necessarily pay the cost of the computer. So maybe you can save a little bit on that, but it's still a seamless experience to go from the tablet to the computer, back to your phone, just certain things that way. And Apple has always prided themselves that on the ability to kind of make it everything really intuitive, right? To where, you know, if it feels like you should do that gesture with your, with your hand, um, then you do that gesture and it does what you want it to do. Whereas a lot of times with a lot of software, you're going to have to learn a unique command for a specific task. And again, where Apple has prided themselves and they've always kind of done it is it just feels really natural. And I think that you and I both kind of think this is where it's going, right? It's really going to where everything's kind of coming together and being one. And, you know, that has been a while since they've really made leaps and bounds on the software. You know, they always kind of come out with a couple of cool features each year. And I think that that's where they're at now. And maybe this live translation, some of this will be the wow feature that really takes over, but it's been a few years since they've been able to say that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and frankly, it's been a few years since any of them have come up with anything really game-changing, to be honest with you. And for all of you listening that aren't Apple users, here's the plus side for you all. Competition will add things even to your phones on down the road, and Charlie's agreeing with me, because what Apple does, the rest will soon follow, Richard, in a lot of areas. I mean, Apple invented the smartphone in the first place, and look at where we're at today with all of the other different makes and models that are out there. So I'm not against anybody that's non-Apple, and some would say, well, I'm not an Apple user. I could care less what's going on there. You should because, again, what happens there, Richard, as you know, and Charlie's agreeing, it will filter into some of the other platforms that are out there as well. So, yeah, you should care because what one does, the rest will have to do as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and that's sort of how it goes, right? You know, Apple sort of becomes synonymous. A lot of Android people will give a hard time to Apple, right? They'll come and say, well, you guys, you know, we've had that feature for forever. Well, again, what Apple has sort of become known for is they kind of take that feature, Dad, and they make it a lot better, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
They do. That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And they, you know, they take that really rough translation feature and they just make it seamless. And then other companies kind of take it and, And they put it in the way that their users would like it. But like you said, competition breeds excellent. It's one of the best things about Apple.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I hope they continue to get better at it because, like you say, for a few years now, it feels like they've slipped a little bit. So hopefully this is the start of something good.
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SPEAKER 10 :
All right, we are back. As I said a moment ago, we do car reviews each week, which this week, Richard, we've got a review again. What did you drive recently?
SPEAKER 14 :
so dad i drove actually one of my more enjoyable cars of the past few months and kind of some of you're going to think well that's kind of a weird thing to say but you know that's what it is this is a 2025 volkswagen a volkswagen taos this is the s e dad which is kind of their middle uh sort of kind of middle value pick i guess you could say this car dad or i should say this suv As it sits with 31, 475, and you can get an S model for about 26, or you can get the SEL for about 36. So right there between kind of the mid-20s to mid-30s as far as that goes, Dad. This on it, I've got the window sticker here, so I'm going to give folks some of the features. This has the all-wheel drive, the 1.5-liter turbo four-cylinder engine, the start-stop system, 18-inch wheels. rain sensing wipers uh rear windowed washer and wiper all that sort of stuff illuminated mirrors front row charging ports it's got cloud text and cloth seating surfaces which i'll talk about in just a second it's got a lot of other obviously kind of safety features as far as the digital cock digital cockpit and push button starts and remote engine start and all sorts of things that all these things for i guess at 31 475 and it also has that which this might be a nice thing 24-hour roadside assistance for three years and 36,000 miles, which I think is a really, really nice feature on that. All this to say that the reason it was one of my most enjoyable cars is because for the money, it is really hard to beat, and it was just a fun car to drive. You got in it. The controls were very functional. They were very intuitive. They worked really, really well. The soft tech that features or that... The cloth, kind of like material I mentioned, it kind of was like a suede, kind of like a leather, Dad, but you felt like you could beat it up a little bit more. And you know kind of what I mean, right? When you have kids especially, it's not something that I worried about getting super dirty or anything like that. I felt like I could spill something on it and wash it off, right? And it's not something that did happen, but I felt like it could. And especially here in Colorado, Dad, we see a lot of Volkswagens around. People take them off-road all the time, and it's something I felt like you could do, and you didn't have to worry about taking super, super great care of it. This is the updated Taos generation that was introduced in 2022. They've revised the styling a little bit. I already mentioned the engine. The all-wheel drive models do have a new transmission on it, Dad, and they've also updated it with a larger touchscreen, and so that kind of goes back to some of what I mentioned. Relatively quiet on the inside, Dad, right, for a car in the low 30s in terms of a price point. In this segment, Dad, and you can speak on this, kind of this, I guess it's the small SUV, or Volkswagen kind of says it's like the extra small SUV category. This is becoming a really popular category, and for this price point, I think the Taos fits really, really nicely.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and again, for a lot of folks, that particular segment, as you know, Richard, is huge. And I mean, when I say huge, I mean huge. There are several, typically in a manufacturer, several different cars that fit in a particular lineup. And what I mean by that is, no, they're not all the same size as the Taos, and Volkswagen will even have smaller, larger, and so on. My point is that... That midsize, small to large midsize SUV, end of things, Richard, is absolutely ginormous. It is a huge segment of the marketplace right now. It will continue to be a huge segment. And the reason for that is because the cars in that segment, the cars are so versatile that you find yourself not needing anything else other than that particular vehicle. That's why they're so hot right now and why everybody wants one.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. And especially, you know, I'll go back to the kid side of stuff. I was able to get two car seats in here. Now, are you going to be able to fit two rear-facing car seats? Probably not. You've got to kind of move that front passenger seat up. But like you said, Dad, in terms of versatility, especially in an urban environment where you may be going into some tighter spaces, but you still want a little bit of room, this vehicle fits for that. Now, it's not ginormous by any means, right? Right. you know, going to get a full sheet of plywood in the back, but I don't think most people would expect that, right? They just want a car that's reliable, works here in Colorado, that all-wheel drive is a great feature to have, right, for all of the weather that we do have. There's a few other kind of, I guess, features on this car I really, really like as far as some of the visuals of it. It's got a full LED bar that's It makes this car really recognizable in kind of how they've done some stuff.
SPEAKER 10 :
I see that. It's a really good look. I mean, their update, it's a good-looking car. They've done a good job on it.
SPEAKER 14 :
And, again, for folks who haven't driven one, Dad, or maybe they've seen these from afar and you're not sure what it is, I encourage you to check it out because, again, if you were in the market. for that extra small kind of SUV type of a vehicle. Like you said, Dad, the options are sort of endless. And I was actually talking to someone about this this past week. When it comes to a car, folks, we don't tell you a lot of times, you know, yes, this car is for you. No, there's lots of options. You have to be the judge, right? Do you like the styling? Do you like the fit? You may like what we have to say about a car. You may not like what we have to say. We're just trying to give you a very overview perspective to see if it maybe piques some interest that you have, Dad. And I think that this, again, the 2025 Volkswagen Taos will do that for a lot of people. So encourage people. Go check this vehicle out, Dad. Last thing I'll tell people real quick is fuel economy. It's got an average of 25 and 33 for an average of 28, so almost 30 miles per gallon, Dad, in this car, which is really fantastic. Yeah. Again, check it out at your local Volkswagen dealer. Let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, last but not least, and I'll talk a little bit about this in the next hour. I've got a special guest at 5 o'clock, but I'll talk a little bit about it. But I figure we've got a couple of minutes here, Richard. We can talk about what's going on in L.A., the riots, the National Guard. And there's a lot of confusion, by the way, even from those that are on the left when it comes to the National Guard, what they're doing, their presence there. There's even been some Marines now that have been called up, and they're there to protect L.A. our federal buildings and so on, which, by the way, all of what is being done in that regard is 1000 percent within the purview of the president. He can do that. So all of you out there listening that are on the left that would accuse Trump of doing something that he is not allowed to do. And it's the end of democracy because he's done this. First of all, you don't know how things work. You don't know the Constitution. You don't know the setup. And shut up because you don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and furthermore, Dad, you and I were talking about this earlier. Yes, in a city of 10 million, this is few and far between. And maybe that is the case, Dad, but like we talked about with Boulder, right? Boulder is several hundred thousand people. Twelve to 15 people were injured by the crazy terrorists, right? But it still matters, right? Those things still do matter. And you're doing damage, just like the Black Lives Matter protest, Dad, right, where people You know, it wasn't everywhere. You know, it's not like you walked down every single street and it was there. That doesn't matter that it's not everywhere.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's not something that should be happening. Trump has every right to secure federal buildings, federal property. And if the governor in the city is not going to do anything about it, which, mind you—
SPEAKER 10 :
Really quick, one other thing, too, that I think is getting missed here. He also has the ability and the right to protect ICE agents any way he needs to. So in other words, those that are saying he can't do this, absolutely he can. If it is protecting another federal function, which is exactly what they're doing, he absolutely can call them in.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. One last thing, Dad, and then we'll run. I saw this thing. There's this Twitter account, X account, called LA Scanner, and it's basically the biggest leftist thing you ever seen. I don't know if you saw that. It basically got shut down because they were giving reports of where ICE agents were at, and it's like... There's an old phrase, Dad, right? Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. It would not surprise me if the person behind that account ended up bringing up on obstruction charges for doing certain things like that because, again, this is federal stuff that these people don't want to mess with, Dad. They have no idea what they're doing.
SPEAKER 10 :
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And welcome. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. As I said earlier, Elaine Parker joining us now, president of the Job Creators Network Foundation. Elaine, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, John. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 12 :
Always a joy. And you guys took a poll recently on what small business owners are thinking about the current administration and what things look like for their future.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, small businesses, I mean, I'll bottom line it for you. Small businesses overwhelmingly support the Republican legislation to expand and make the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act permanent. And what you need to remember is, in many ways, this bill really is just keeping the status quo because it's on schedule to expire at the end of this year. If nobody does anything, we can all sit back, put our feet up and basically taxes are going to go up by four trillion dollars on our economy. It will be a devastating blow to everyday ordinary Americans and to our small business owners who were really the biggest recipients of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. And that is why they overwhelmingly support it. 70% of them in our polling say that they will create jobs, expand operations, boost worker wages, and reinvest in their communities, which is exactly the types of things that they did in in the first term under the Trump administration when it was passed. And, John, when you get 70% in any poll, that's nonpartisan.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's a big number.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a massive number.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, in their defense, and I'm one of them, and one of the things that, you know, folks like I look at on the small business end of things, to your point, you know, and there's a lot of things that folks, you know, don't like inside of the big, beautiful bill. There's things in it that we like as well. And at the end of the day, it is what it is. I mean... You can try to lobby against or for or whatever, but at the end of the day, it's going to end up being what it is. One of the things that's in it, though, that I think myself included, small businesses look at is you're talking about the tax cuts. One of the things that to the average person may not matter, but to small businesses, it does. Currently, bonus depreciation is starting to phase out. Already started in 2024. It'll be bigger in 2025. But if this passes, it'll bring it back in 2026 to a full 100%. And Elaine, for small business owners, that's a huge thing. And for folks that don't understand it, just go look it up or text me afterwards, and I can explain why this is such a big deal. But it is, Elaine, because it encourages small businesses to spend money on things that will help their businesses grow. It then helps them out reverse on the tax sides of things. But it's a big deal for small business owners across the country.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And that that provision, you know, is probably one of the biggest drivers. Absolutely. Absolutely. In 2018 and 2019, when the bill was first passed, it was really the biggest. Our small business owners tell me I've got some members who have told me who are manufacturers. That was a game changer for them. It was about expanding facilities. It was about buying machinery. It was about creating jobs and hiring new people and boosting wages and being able to write off an expense. Those investments in the year that they were made was huge because the alternative is is expensing over, you know, 39 years or something like that.
SPEAKER 12 :
At least five. I mean, that's the minimum. And to your point, yes, as small business owners, we take big looks at that. And I'll just tell you straight up, as a small business owner myself, when it comes to those sorts of investments, especially as you get towards that, you know, Fourth quarter of the year and you start looking at where you might be tax wise. OK, we made this investment. We could do this with the taxes and so on. And with bonus depreciation, you have a lot more options than what you normally would have, Elaine. And I'll tell you, business owners and I coach other owners. We take advantage of those things when they're there.
SPEAKER 06 :
100%. That is exactly what small business owners do. And they did it a lot in 2018 and 2019 pre-COVID. And they did it because it was a great opportunity. They were the drivers of this economy. And not only that, in this bill, in this particular bill, as you know, the small business tax deduction is 20% currently. We've been pushing and we're so happy to see that Republicans increased that tax deduction to 23 percent. Nice. That's massive when you multiply it by the 26 million small business owners that utilize that deduction. It's huge. These are massive numbers.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right. Well, and Elaine, as you know, too, when you're running a small business, depending upon how you've structured your sub-S corporation or your LLC or whatever, the reality is you're still paying personal taxes as well. So those tax cuts on that side also help. So, yeah, I mean, I've got to believe I am. And one of those where if you were to poll me, I would look at it exactly the same way. I'm excited about the future. These are changes that need to be made permanent, which is exactly what we're doing here. That's the other thing I think we need to remember, Elaine, with this is if this passes and goes through, it's not one of these things like and I get it, another administration come along and make big changes, but it has to be done in this manner. This is going to make permanent some of the things that we've seen happen in the last go around, you know, four years ago. And this will solidify those things, you know, quote unquote, permanently until, again, another administration would come along and change it. But, you know, as well as I, Elaine, when you make things permanent and people get used to them and then somebody wants to come along and take those away, that's usually political suicide.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, exactly. And look, I know there are things to criticize in this bill. Absolutely. I get it. I do too. But that's called passing legislation. That's how you do it. And there are things in there that I'd like to see differently, but I can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And I know that... You know, Elon Musk is dominating all the headlines and saying the bill doesn't do enough to cut spending.
SPEAKER 12 :
And by the way, Elaine, as a business owner myself, it doesn't. But, you know, what's that old saying? Beggars can't be choosers. I mean, I also understand, and there's a lot of people out there right now probably mad at me for saying this, but you have to have some compromise in some of these areas or you're not going to get anything that you want. And I want as much as I can possibly get knowing I can't get the whole enchilada.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. You just have to read page one of the conservative governing playbook, which says cut taxes whenever, wherever and however you can. That's right. And when we have such a small majority in the House, we've got to take advantage of it right now.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and again, Elaine, I would be the first to say, are we doing enough? No. Do we ever do enough? No. Do we have way more in government spending even still than what we need? Yes. Are there entitlement programs, i.e. Social Security, that we need to get in and revamp or we're not going to have them on down the road? Yes. And I also know, Elaine, that no matter which side of the aisle you're on, some of the things I'm mentioning aren't going to be touched because, again, it's political suicide. Yes, it needs done. It's not going to get done because of that. So in turn, we take what we can get when it comes along.
SPEAKER 06 :
exactly and really you know this the only way to truly fix our fiscal you know situation is through strong economic growth we saw in 2017 despite all of those dire predictions from you know the congressional budget office this was going to cost 1.5 trillion and the media and the democrats when you look at inflation adjusted federal tax revenues not including tariffs They have significantly grown as a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. And last year alone, tax collections were a half a trillion dollars higher than the CBO predicted.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that same thing will happen again. That's my other complaint, Elaine, with a lot of the naysayers on both sides, by the way, is, okay, number one, you don't have a crystal ball. You don't know exactly how it's going to work out. You're not factoring in some of the job growth and economic growth that will come from doing the things that you're doing. You guys are flatlining a lot of these things. You're putting very, very small increases, and the reality is the economy could explode. I hate to go this direction, Elaine, but if we could now get the Federal Reserve to help in some of this as well, i.e. lowering rates, it would also help a lot of small businesses with lines of credits and buying equipment and some of the things that we're even talking about. If you could get the Fed to participate, we would have an absolute explosive economy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And that is the piece that we haven't started talking about yet. But yes, the Fed needs to move. I mean, inflation is under control. We've got energy prices have come down. Grocery prices have come down. But I mean, inflation is at that magic number where the Fed could cut. And we watched them cut under the Biden administration a couple of times. Don't get me started. Don't get me started. Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
They are behind. It is political, even though they say it isn't. I'll have a guest on tomorrow. We'll talk even more about this, Elaine. And he and I will argue on this because I know it's political. This is becoming a stalemate between Jerome Powell and the Trump administration. It shouldn't be. He should be cutting. He's already, in my opinion, late to the game. And as a small business owner, and I'm not even in the housing world, Elaine, if I was, I would even be more that way, because we've got to get things jumpstarted on the housing sides of things. And right now, you know, Trump and Besant and so on, they can do as much as they can behind the scenes. But the reality is the Fed is the only one that's really going to affect that at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and he was slow when inflation was increasing.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, they kept saying it's temporary. It's transitory. That's right. Transitory. Thank you. I forgot that word. I heard it so much back then. But, you know, they were slow moving. And I realize they're working on looking at data that's already happened, things that have already happened and then trying to move. But they kept saying it's transitory, it's transitory. They were so slow moving. That's right. We ended up with a massive problem with massive inflation, and they didn't move. And here it seems like the Fed is doing exactly the same thing in the opposite direction.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right. You are right. And, again, A, I appreciate you and what you're doing. I'm on your team, as you can tell, not only as a business owner but talking about these things on a daily basis. And I know this. I say this a lot, and I know I sound like a broken record sometimes. But small businesses, we are the backbone of this country, and sometimes we don't get near enough credit, Elaine.
SPEAKER 06 :
One hundred percent. That is absolutely true. And that's why we're here trying to fight for them as much as possible.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we sure appreciate you very much. Again, Job Creators Network Foundation. How do folks find you, Elaine?
SPEAKER 06 :
They can go to joinjcn.com. Find out all about us.
SPEAKER 12 :
I appreciate it very much, Elaine. You're welcome anytime. You're in great company, as you can tell.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Have a great night. You bet. Appreciate it very much. And up next, Golden Eagle Financial. Al did a great interview the other day with Travis. So stay tuned to listen to that. We'll be right back after that.
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Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial and the show you love, Retirement Unpacked, is here with me. How are you today, Al? I'm doing great. How are you, TJ? I'm doing great as well. I have a couple questions for you. As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I don't prepare my clients' taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it's working.
SPEAKER 03 :
And how much are taxes a part of that game plan that you create?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, with so many different taxes we're faced with, it becomes an important thing to take into consideration. It's not how much income you have, but how much you get to keep. In addition to federal and state income taxes, there's property taxes, state and local sales tax, and fees. And they all play a part in shrinking our income.
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What about people who already have really healthy balances in 401ks, IRAs? Won't they be facing significant taxes as they draw income from those accounts?
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Well, it depends. Everybody's situation's a little bit different. There's no one size that fits all when it comes to tax planning. But often when I work with people, we'll create a strategy where we will convert traditional IRAs to Roth over time. And that not only reduces taxes in the future, but it will also lower the tax they'll be paying on their Social Security.
SPEAKER 03 :
Is that kind of strategy really only for the wealthy?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not at all. Many of my clients who have modest IRAs have chosen to convert to Roth over time. They enjoy the freedom of having a tax-free nest egg that they can access on their own timeline rather than an RMD schedule.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that is excellent. And how can people reach you if they want to learn about their own taxation in retirement?
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You can reach me through KLZ or contact my office at 303-744-1128. And when you call, I'll provide you with a summary of all the tax changes for 2025.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right. I don't normally meld drive radio stuff into the daily Rush to Reason show, but I've had two text messages that I just have to address because a lot of you are out. It's the time of the year where you may be looking at new cars and doing different things and shopping and so on. So I might as well explain this now as opposed to Saturday because these questions are coming up. Number one. Somebody asked me because I was talking about doing my own oil change on my vehicle here recently, and this particular person thought that's illegal, that's not okay to do because the dealership requires you to go back to them for all of your services. That's actually against the law for them to even insinuate that. There's a Magnus Moss Act that was passed a long time ago. I don't know exactly what year. I'd have to go look it up, but it's been a long time, decades. And in that law, it required any manufacturer that requires you to have them do the service to do the service for free. And the example they give is if Maytag required you to use Maytag soap to keep your washing machine under their warranty. In other words, if you use Tide, it voided the warranty. The law says they have to give you the soap. The same would be true for any dealership telling you that you have to come back to us for the oil change or it will void your warranty. If they, in fact, say that, the service has to be free. Otherwise, they're breaking the law. And the reality is nobody does that anymore. And any dealership telling you you have to come back to them for any kind of service under warranty, tire rotation, oil changes, even filling the washer fluid, if they tell you that, A, they're lying, and, B, they would have to provide that for free. So, no, you can even do oil changes yourself at home if you have that ability to do so. And all of that is still under our law, federally, federal law. That is all legal. more than fine for you to do, and the dealership still has to keep the warranty on that vehicle intact. The manufacturer, I should say, not the dealership. The manufacturer has to keep that warranty intact. So if you hear anything other than that, they're lying and walk away. That tells you that's not a good dealer. Second of all, I've had this particular comment from several, three people so far texting me this since like last Thursday, and I didn't get a chance to talk about it on Saturday. I apologize. I'm going to talk about it now. That is ceramic coatings. It's becoming a bigger and bigger deal for ceramic coatings. And you're hearing ceramic coatings on all sorts of stuff now. You can do it on your countertops. You can do it on your car. You can do it here. You can do it there. Now, on the vehicle sides of things, I don't know about everybody else as far as all of the other things that are out there that can be ceramic coated. But I do know when it comes to your vehicle. Number one, there is no such thing as ceramic coating that can be done while you wait. And I've got a sponsor on Saturdays, ProTech Auto Shield, that does ceramic coating. So I can tell you firsthand, I know all about the whole ceramic coating end of things. And if it's done correctly, number one, the paint on the vehicle has to be prepped. meaning you take out any high-low spots. It has to be perfect before you put ceramic coating on because you're really sealing. Think of it this way. You're adding a layer of sealant, quote-unquote, ceramic sealant to the paint, and no, that cannot be done while you wait. Just the paint correction alone on the vehicle will take several hours, to get done. And then as you're doing the ceramic coating, in some cases you're putting one coat or two coats on depending upon what's needed and what the customer's paying for and has agreed to. But either way, one or two coats. And in that process, the dry time even between coats is lengthy and it's an overnight, at least 24-hour dry process. on the actual ceramic coating that you do so there's no way if a dealership is telling you they can do that while you wait is it legit ceramic coating it it's not it's probably something coming out of a spray bottle that you literally could go home and do yourself so so whatever that money is that a dealership's trying to charge you for ceramic coating just walk away because it's not true on top of that There are dealerships out there that will tell you that the ceramic coating is hail-resistant. It's a protection against hail. It is not. That's another lie. And even the folks, again, that I know at ProTech AutoShield, Roy and Dietze, they will straight-up tell you. In fact, one of the only reasons they agreed to come on as a sponsor of my program on Saturday was that we would dispel that myth because that's exactly what it is. It's a lie. It's a myth. Ceramic coating helps with the paint protection. Helps with a lot of the gunk and the garbage that we get during the winter months especially. The salt, the mag chloride, all those sorts of things. Tree sap, the UVs, all of that. It helps against all of that. It will not help protect against a dent. Period. Period. For example. I get my vehicle ceramic coated. Roy and Dita take great care of me. And I park down here at the station. And a lot of times the parking places are fairly close. And I was over at Roy's one day and he walks out and says, hey, you know, you got a dent in the passenger side of that door over there. And I'm like, oh, great. I hadn't noticed it. And I'm like, yeah, sure enough, I do. He said, OK, well, we'll take care of it. You know, we've got PDR. We get paintless dent removal and so on. My point is this. It was ceramic coated and yet got a door ding. If the ceramic coating protected against hail, it would also protect against a door ding. It doesn't. Now, did it help in the scratch-resistant part of it? Yes, it did do that, and it didn't get scratched. They were able to take the dent out, no problem. But if you have a dealership at any level telling you that ceramic coating will help against hail, anything else, any other kind of natural occurrence that would be out there, they are 100% lying and walk away. In fact, I wouldn't buy a car... car from anybody that's lying to me on that level. And if you get some sales guy that tries to BS his way around what ceramic coating actually is, you can tell them to call me, text me, and I'll straighten them out because the reality is they don't know what they're talking about. They're talking out of both sides of their mouth in a lot of cases. They're trying to basically get you to buy a car for all the wrong reasons, and I would never buy anything from anybody that's lying to me straight up. Sorry to get into some drive radio things today on Rush to Reason, but those are things that I think a lot of you can apply. Some of you, evidently, I wouldn't be getting these text messages if you weren't out shopping for cars right now. So those of you that are, remember these things that I just said and never, ever, ever deal with anybody that's going to lie to you. I'm sorry, just don't. Now, if you find a car you really like, and they're trying to sell you all these add-ons, and you can walk out the door without having them, and you still get the deal you want, that's up to you. If you want to buy the car from them, that's fine. But I'll just tell you straight up, you cannot put ceramic coating on while somebody waits. It takes longer than an hour or two to get done. So anybody telling you that, again, either A, doesn't understand what ceramic coating is, or B, has been lied to internally to sell you something that frankly isn't what it is, or three knows all of that, and they're still trying to lie to you and sell you a car and make some money on top of that. In this particular case, this dealership was asking $600 for the ceramic coating. And by the way, that is about half, probably a third of what real ceramic coating costs when it's all said and done, meaning they're using a spray bottle, they're spraying it on. They don't have, I'm not exaggerating, parts and labor and everything in that. They don't have 50 bucks in that whole application. They're charging you $600, and I am not exaggerating when I say that. That's how much upcharge costs. They're making on that all the more reason to run and, frankly, go find a car someplace else at the end of the day. All right. 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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. One last thing on ceramic coating before I move to Christian Briggs is somebody asked in a lot of states, in this case Texas, because we have listeners there as well, they were saying down there at dealerships that the ceramic coating will improve fuel economy. Hogwash. No, it won't. That's another lie that's coming out of the dealership world. And so, yeah, it does not do that either. So add that on to the things I just talked about a few minutes ago as well. Christian Briggs joining us now. Christian, welcome. How are you? Great. And thank you so much for having me on your show. I appreciate it. All right. You are an expert on all things economy and you're an expert. You talk on national syndicated shows and all sorts of things as well. And you're a CEO of Hard Asset Management. I should have said that to begin with. So thank you again for joining us. And question, and this is in my notes, and I've got a question on this as well, because I talked even during the first hour when you weren't able to join us about the cryptocurrency end of things. But there's all this talk all the time about the central bank and digital currency, and are we going to go to a digital dollar, and, and, and. And Christian, I don't know, I have my own thoughts when it comes to cryptocurrency. I'm not against it, but is it for everybody? No, I don't believe it is at this point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I'm not sure we have a choice. It's kind of like taxes and death, right? I think those are the two things that we can pretty much turn on during our lifetime. So let's just quickly define something very fast so your listeners can understand between the parallels here. We have what they call central bank digital currency, and we have what they call Bitcoin or decentralized cryptocurrency, and they're completely different. Digital may be the means of which they transfer money from A to B, from a seller, buyer, and what they call a tokenization. But at the very heart of the matter, and I know people have heard this before, centralizing power means that you allow a very few people to control a very large amount of people. In other words, the classes will control the masses. So the difference between these two forms of payment is as such. we are moving into a centralized platform and the reason we're moving from a decentralized bitcoin is because when you centralize the payment system or centralize anything you're allowed then to surveil contain control and because we already run on a centralized system for payments like bank wires and so forth the way banks pay each other and what individuals would call the swift That's called central bank. That's why they call them central banks of the world. The difference we're talking about today is cryptocurrency runs on what they call a decentralized system, which means it runs with complete anonymity. And that allows users not to have any, I call it the crypto cops. In other words, people of which that would stop the direct payment. Let's say I want to buy a car from you and you say, great, let's do it in Bitcoin. I push a button. It goes to you. It goes into this wallet. No problem. When you have centralized systems and I want to pay you, and the government determines that, well, you know, that's a diesel truck. I don't like diesel trucks. We might get somebody in there on the Democrat side that doesn't like the way in which the products or services were bought. They can then immediately cut it off. That's called programmable money.
SPEAKER 12 :
Makes sense. And by the way, a little bit of that's even happening now as we speak. For example, if you're... And not that I'm against this, Christian, but if you're somebody that doesn't normally buy cars and things like that, and all of a sudden there's a transaction that's happening and you're going to the bank to withdraw $15,000 to go pay Joe Schmo for the used car you just bought, you may get a lot of questions out of your bank. And by the way, I'm not against that, but to your point, you're going to get a lot of questions.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, you're going to get a lot of questions, and those questions are going to be because red flags are going up everywhere. Bells and whistles are going off as if you just robbed a bank or something. That's right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And unfortunately, it's because of the nefarious individuals that aren't doing things correctly on the sales of those that create some of this, although it doesn't create all of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. If you look at any kind of regulatory environment, I don't care if it's a small business that's selling jet skis or some of the biggest businesses like coal refineries, there's always going to be nefarious systems, and people that run those systems, that's why we have over-regulatory environment. Look at going to the airport. You ever seen the TSA lately and the screening of everything? That's right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Talked about that last week, actually.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, it's only getting worse, but... Those things come about because of bad people. That's right. But the problem is we're going to automatically put people into an arena where we're going to centralize their wealth. We're going to centralize their assets. And we're going to have overseers at some centralized system, whether that's in D.C., New York, who knows. Or it may be randomly done through satellite offices by government-controlled people. But at the end of the day, we're going to have this. And I'll tell you how close we are to it. In October of this year, the European Union is expected to launch the e-euro. Now, everyone is wondering, what is that? Well, I'm glad you asked. The e-euro is the paper version of the euro digitized on a centralized system. It's expected to launch October 18th, at some point within that realm, maybe the 20th or 25th. And what that's going to do is, that's going to be the first introduction in about 40 countries globally of a digital currency that doesn't exist, it's an algorithm, uniquely tokenized with unique serial numbers that identify each euro, and it's a digital form, to pay people or to be able to receive monies, whether you're getting paid directly from an employer. The problem is that the leader, Legrand, she's the one that runs the IMF, International Monetary Fund, which is basically the third version of Central Bank for Europe. Right. She said, oh, but understand it's very programmable. And if we determine that you're buying something that we don't like, well, we'll not let you do that. Or if you're not spending your money every month that you need to to keep the economy going, well, we'll tell you to spend it, like either spend it or lose it. So we're entering a phase of complete government surveillance and control. And that's the worrisome where crypto is a decentralized system. So it's free to roam and run and do whatever it needs to do between parties for buying and selling and what forth. But the centralized system or CBDC, central bank digital currency, is now the ultimate control. Because if you control people's wealth, You control them, period. Where are they going to go? Are they going to leave?
SPEAKER 12 :
And so being, you know, I'll just be devil's advocate here because the same thing would apply here to the U.S. and maybe not quite the same as it would in the EU. What happens with all of the floating around paper money? Do they just do away with it? It now becomes illegal to use paper money? Or how do they handle that? Because, as you know, to do what you're saying, you've got to get away from paper money altogether. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. So two years ago, just a little over two years, no, actually about two years ago, I was over in Europe. And when I got to London and I had brought a few thousand dollars worth of British pounds with me, what happened was I immediately, when I was in the cab leaving the airport to go to the hotel, I was reminded by the cab driver, not knowing this, that that money had become worthless. And I go, what are you talking about? September of 23rd, They basically said they had converted from paper to more of a synthetic kind of a plastic currency, not digital yet, but currency, and they gave their citizens 30 days in which to turn in the old for the new. Now, the only way you can do that was to deposit that into a bank account. Now, if you had nefarious issues or systems and you didn't declare that cash as income somewhere, then it would, well, you just write it off or burn it. So that's exactly what's going to happen. As we kind of enter into the new phase, there was a Treasury mandate here recently, about in the last month or so, where the Treasury Department has now issued a warning to banks all over the world that if there's any suspicious cash transactions, they'll be notified. We are creating an environment that in the next 18 months, will make cash toxic. You go to the bank and you try to withdraw $5,000, they look at you, they ask you questions, you draw $10,000 or more, and that's red flag city. So even if it's not something that is being done in such a bad manner, maybe you want to buy a jet ski or you want to buy a boat or car, and you don't know the person you're buying from, they probably won't take your personal check. So cash has been symbolizing a lot of ways in which to do transactions. Those days are numbered, I can assure you. Within the next 18 to 24 months, and it may happen before Trump leaves office, we may be a predominantly digital society, cashless, and I can give you stats to back that up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Man, not that I'm disagreeing with you, but if they do that, you're going to see a civil war because there's X amount of people out there that are not giving up their cash. I can just tell you that right now. Not going to happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm one of them. And I couldn't disagree with you. That's the problem. But let me give you statistically what's happening. That 18 to 30-year-old has now been programmed and conditioned to go digital. 88% of transactions. under the age of 26, I believe, or 25, is all digital. They don't even know what checking accounts are. Yes, an 18-year-old. Okay.
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And actually, I think, Christian, for most people in that figure, I'm not saying you're wrong, but, man, that even gets up into people that are in their 40s and 50s in a lot of ways.
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Oh, you're 100% right. I didn't want to go that far and release all the numbers we have here in my office because I've got number crunchers. I've got some of the smartest PhD brains on the planet that all we do is crunch numbers statistically to determine what are conclusiveness within theories. And I can tell you what's conclusive, and that is This year, well over 60% of all transactions in this country will be in digital form. Some crypto, some credit cards, that's all digital. Debit cards, digital. Venmo, digital. It's all digital. And it's growing to the point where by 27, our estimate is if it's not close to 100% by 27, it sure will be by 28. That's a cashless society by definition. True.
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True. Yep, won't deny that. And at that point, then it just becomes easy to move into what you're talking about. And again, and I have said this for years, it will go totally digital 100% when all the old guys like me still carry cash. When we're gone, it's done.
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Correct. I would say within the next five years, and I think I'm going to actually turn out to be wrong, I think it's going to happen within three and a half to four years, that cash is going to be made toxic, that it's going to be like Europe. Take Europe, for example. If you're caught spending more than 1,000 pounds in the UK, that's a criminal act. If you're caught spending more than 1,000 euros without permission or predetermined in telling the government what you're going to use it for, that's a criminal offense. It's a felony. In fact, it's up to that level. If you try to withdraw over 10,000 or I think the max is 10,000 euros, you've got to have a certification of what's the purpose of the money going to be used for? Who is it going to be given? Find out a person. They need to find an affidavit. You're buying something. You've got to go through such hoops so they can track the cash that it's almost a deterrent. And that's what they want to do. You remember the old story is government doesn't want you to do it. They may not come out and say you can. They'll just make it so incredibly difficult that you don't want to do it in the first place.
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No, I can see that. And to your point, that's exactly how, as time goes by, they'll continue to wean even the old guys off of it. They'll just make it just, you know, not necessarily a legal Christian, because if they do that, they'll have a revolt. But they just make it hard to use.
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They just make it hard to use. It's kind of like what Biden was – well, let me take a step back. Obama tried to make owning a gun very challenging, certainly buying one, owning one, owning a suppressor. And then Biden came in, and what did he do? He goes, well, if I can't make you not own a gun or prevent you from owning a gun, I'll make it impossible for you to own ammo. What happened to ammo prices? They skyrocketed because he went out there and cut back on the ability. He took about two-thirds of the gun dealers out, and he tried to take about 50% of the ammunitions dealers and manufacturers in this country out as well, saying, look, you can have all the guns you want. That's what the Constitution said. But it didn't tell you anything about bullets.
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Right. Good point. You're exactly right. That's exactly how they'll implement some of these things. So I guess question for you, what do we do? How do we fight against this? How do you still keep your investments solid, make money at the end of the day? Because as you know, as time goes by, we still got to feed our families.
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You do. And if we weren't getting down to this path... That you and I are speaking to right now, and I know your listeners are probably their heads are hurting a little bit because there's a lot of information, but it is truthful. I've always said at some point, and I'm going to answer your question, but I'm going to make this defining point to get to the answer that everybody. who loves the Lord, will realize the entire Bible is true. Not just parts we want, but the entire Bible is true.
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Great point.
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And we are now in the new world order. We're in the great reset. We're actually seeing the evolution. I call it the evolution, where there's a revolution. Remember the old saying is, they don't want you to see the revolution, because that clearly shows the bad guys are coming with their guns and what have you. So they call it an evolution, where evil will reside in a very... quiet manner, but yet, just like an elephant has to be eaten, small bites at one time, and then over the months or years, it's all gone. The evolution is to treat the way of which we're being programmed and conditioned. Crypto was one part of it to go into digital. So the answer to your question is this. What is God's true form of money? Mentioned 93 times in the Bible. It's the only asset that that is truly known as a little child, we all know the intrinsic value. We don't have to be told that's gold, that's silver. And if you look at gold, if it wasn't coming to the digital age of transformation of currencies, doing away with the paper to go digital, gold is up 300% in the past five years. Now, that's astonishing. That never happens. If you look at hard assets in general, I don't care if it's rare cars, rare coins, or even rare Art, it's all skyrocketed over the last five, six, seven years in some form, some better than others. But granted that you're starting to see the dynamic shift into hard assets that are more mobile. that are more liquid, but offer value that goes far beyond just the intrinsic. So the answer is diversification, one, which we should do that anyway. That's a good long-term portfolio. And two, go back to God's money, but you can buy it in different forms. But hard assets are not cyclical this time. This is different. This isn't like a financial crisis that's going to wean itself somehow off mothership because the federal government's having trouble with the debt. We know this to be true, $37 trillion within the next couple, three weeks. And number two... Even if Trump's bill goes through, and I do expect it to go through, it's still going to increase the debt by at least $4 to $6 trillion over the next three to four years. And that's not payable back. So even if digital currency wasn't on the forefront of the evolution that we're now experiencing, especially in Europe, in less than four months, Europe transitions to digital from cashless. Not right away, but over the next 18 months, it'll slowly move cash out of society. We will also. And then you'll have to understand that that's all part of what was supposed to happen with, what, one world government, one currency. And here's a third thing that people aren't aware of. Apple, two weeks ago, started introducing the first chip that goes in your brain that you can buy and sell with, as well as it will then take the place of your mobile phone, if you want to look that up.
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Interesting. Mm-hmm. Not denying any of it. I mean, again, as you're saying, a lot of this is what happens as we get down that path. And you're the same as me. I don't know exactly when or how. I just know the warning signs and what's happening and just be prepared.
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You've got to be prepared. The way the Americans think is the next five to ten weeks, maybe we even get a little bit in the next quarter, two quarters of the year we look forward. If you look at the rest of the world, it's the next quarter century or at least the next five or ten years. further down the road you've got to start thinking not as a microwave or a drive drive-through that's right rather as a crock pot you've got to understand that the time it takes in which to do these things is just like eating an elephant tiny bites you never see it that's right but eventually it goes through so you've got to start protecting your your assets your wealth your family's interest today and i'm not saying stocks are bad what i'm saying is if the stock market dropped 30 or 40%. And Goldman Sachs came out today and actually said that this may be one of the worst economies in decades because of a number of different factors, that we may actually only have about a 1% GDP, which I'm even disagreeing with that. I think it's going to be negative, not maybe every quarter, but certainly as an average, it may actually be break-even. at best because we have the tariffs aren't working like they should be the debt's not being paid down doge did not go through with any of the three to four hundred billion in cuts i believe the codified number was 9.3 billion which is that's like not even one percent of our entire budget of the united states government it's nothing it doesn't have any material value And the next thing is you've got reports out there that Elon Musk and Secretary of the Treasury Scott Besant were having physical or certainly verbal altercations, and that's one of the reasons. And that's not an environment that gives a lot of people the warm and fuzzy feeling.
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True. All right. Good stuff. I'll leave you with that. Christian, how do folks find you?
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You can find me on X. It's BMC, Bravo Mary Charlie, underscore ham, H-A-M, BMC underscore ham, or on our website. You can call us directly. I'm happy to take a phone call. It's BMCHAM.com. Call us up anytime. Ask for me, and I'm happy to chat with anybody.
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Christian, I appreciate you very much. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me.
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You're very welcome.
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All right, we are back one segment left here, and I did notice this today, and this is where I always want to caution our side, that be very careful of what you post and or repost, because I saw somebody, and I wanted to mention this because I wasn't able to verify this, so my gut feeling is this particular picture is an old picture, and it just resurfaced today, and it's a picture of Polis and another person and our lieutenant governor, hoisting up a Mexican flag at the Capitol or someplace. But the picture and the caption make it sound like Polis is hoisting up a Mexican flag at the Capitol. Now, I looked everywhere I possibly could to see if there was any other place where that had actually taken place, and I couldn't verify it. So yet our side is – now, here's the problem. It wouldn't be that hard to believe that he and his administration would do that because it's something he would do. But did he do it today in light of what's going on in L.A.? Nowhere that I can find. I can't find a single place. So not that I'm defending Governor Polis because the guys are Marxists through and through. I talk about that constantly. But did he and his lieutenant governor hoist – the Mexican flag today at the Capitol, not that I can verify, folks. So if you or anybody you know have posted or reposted that, please take that down because I can't verify that, and I don't think you can either. And this is the kind of stuff that on our side of the aisle really bothers me at times because it makes us look really stupid. We're trying to be accurate. We're trying to hold our own. We're trying to fend off the left and the Marxists and so on, and yet we can't take—in my case, I took two minutes— to see if I could verify that that picture was actually from today. And I didn't even throw it into AI. I probably could have even found where the picture originated from. But I couldn't see anything about that happening anywhere today, yet it's getting posted on our side of the aisle in different groups that I'm a part of on Facebook, and it shouldn't be. So those of you, if you're listening to me and you posted that, please take it down. I didn't comment. I didn't want to get into that whole rigmarole. I'm not going to be that Karen that's on Facebook trying to tell people to take certain things down. But if you can't prove that it's real, don't post it. It's that same rule of thumb I constantly try to feed into all of you guys as listeners is if you can't prove that it's real, even though you might want it to be, even though it looks like it might be, even though it would pass off for being, please don't post it unless you know for a fact it's real. Because when you do, and it turns out that, like in this case, it's not real, then it makes us really look bad. And everything going on in L.A., there's already a ton of stuff going on. It's a huge advertisement, by the way, already for the Republican Party and for Donald Trump, despite what Newsom and Newscombe, that's what a lot of people call him, and all of his cronies are saying. Reality is it's a huge advertisement for Donald Trump. You can see how out of control California is. And I'll just say it this way and end it this way. I have no use for anyone that would fly another country's flag while burning down a city. That just makes no sense to me whatsoever. Go back to where you came from is my advice on that. We'll be back tomorrow. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
In this insightful episode, Kim Munson challenges the narratives surrounding today's political climate, questioning the forces at play behind scenes of protest and advocacy. With the help of former State Senator Kevin Lundberg, Kim examines the ramifications of these movements, emphasizing the importance of maintaining individual freedoms against the backdrop of governmental overreach. Discover the nuanced debates on freedom, equality, and economic policies central to understanding current events.
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We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives. And force can be a weapon, but policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum, and the globalist elites, which would have everyday people live in little apartment boxes, live within 15 minutes of they couldn't get out of that 15-minute boundary, and ride around on trains and buses and bicycles and walk around. And if people choose that, that's one thing. If it's forced, it's quite another thing. And we see this play out then through the United Nations, this Colorado State Legislature, local county state governments using land use codes, zoning regulations, forced fees. All those kinds of things are things that take away our freedom. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday, and the first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night, and that is on all KLZ 560 platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And so you can check us out at all those different places. I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show, and It is because of all of your support, all of our sponsors, that we keep this independent voice out there looking at all of these important issues. Our word of the day, and this is thank you to... And Dave is, oh my gosh, I had it in my brain and I didn't put it on the outline. So hang with me. It is patronage. And thank you to Dave. And it is the definition on this. is the support or encouragement of a patron as for an institution or cause. Number two, support or encouragement proffered in a condescending manner. And their example from American Heritage Dictionary is our little establishment has finally been deemed worthy of the bank's patronage. And then lastly, the trade given to a commercial establishment by its consumers. And their sentence there is shopkeepers thanked Christmas shoppers for their patronage. And it is spelled P-A-T-R-O-N-A-G-E. Thank you to Dave for that word of the day. And Dave Evans is one of our Colorado Union of Taxpayers board members. We met last night. We are working on our ratings report, which will come out tomorrow. It'll probably be at least a month, as much work as we put into it. But this is an all-volunteer group. And when you see them, say thank you to Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner. Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. This all-volunteer group, I really feel when I'm sitting around the table with all of them that I'm sitting around the table with some of our founders, people that volunteered because they care about freedom, liberty, human flourishing. And between, I would say, Colorado Union of Taxpayers and and then Sue Moore and her group over at Liberty Scorecard. Those two things are really great tools to have in your toolbox as you're watching what's going on in Colorado. And then also I would add in, and we'll talk with him in just a few moments, Kevin Lundberg and his Lundberg report. Those three things will keep you very informed on what is happening in Colorado. And so thank you to the group there. Our quote of the day, I went to Alexander Shultzenitsyn, and he was born in 1918, he died in 2008. And he was a Soviet and Russian author and dissident who helped to raise global awareness of political repression in the Soviet Union, especially the Gulag prison system. He was awarded the 1970 Nobel Prize in Literature for the ethical force with which he has pursued the indispensable traditions of Russian literature. And his nonfiction work, The Gulag Archipelago, it was practiced that last night with Zach, Archipelago, amounted to a head-on challenge to the Soviet state and sold tens of millions of copies. And he said this. He said, outweighs the world. And again, that was Alexander Schultz and Knudsen. Probably one of the big headlines out there is what is happening in Los Angeles. And this is interesting, the different takes that we see, once again, because of the different reporters out there. Is this just... Protesters getting together because they want to protest Donald Trump, want to protest people that are being deported here from America that are being deported that are here illegally? Or is this somewhat of what's called a color revolution? And we were talking about it last night at... the CUP board meeting, what is a color revolution? And it says that, this is from Wikipedia, and it says that a color revolution is a series of often nonviolent protests and accompanying or attempted or successful changes of government and society that And this took place in many of the post-Soviet states, such as Georgia, Ukraine, and Kyrgyzstan, and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. It says the aim of the color revolutions at that time was to establish Western-style democracies, and they were primarily triggered by election results widely viewed as falsified. It says the color revolutions were marked by the use of the Internet as a method of communication. What I'm concerned here... is that we may have a situation of a revolution to, in this case, to overturn Western values. And I'm concerned by the Trump administration in over, if there's overreaction to this, this is going to play into a very organized effort to, on these protesters. And take a look at its no kings.org. Very well organized. And it says in America, we don't do kings. He says they've and this is their their byline, they've defied our courts, deported Americans. Disappeared people off the streets, attacked our civil rights, and slashed our services. And then it says the corruption has gone too far. No thrones, no crowns, no kings. The implication is that I would say that Donald Trump is acting like a king. And so they are going to have events happening. This weekend, which is on June 14th, that is Flag Day. That is also Donald Trump's birthday. And if you go to knowkings.org, you can see how well organized they are. And they are having protests all over the country. And hopefully they will be nonviolent protests. I believe in that. However, I think that there will be situations where they will try to escalate this situation. And, in fact, I've got to see if I've got to get somebody on here at the end of the second hour to talk about this because I think that this is the opposite. This is not trying to establish Western democracies. I think that these protests will be trying to take America and the American idea really and attack upon that. So stay tuned on all of this. We're going to talk with Kevin Lundberg about that. One other thing that I wanted to mention are two things. And one of those is, and I guess we could talk about these other things with Kevin Lundberg, that Colorado Senate Minority Leader Paul Lundeen has resigned from the state Senate to take a position that with an organization that is called, let's see, I think it's American Excellence. And I like Paul Lundin personally. It's the American Excellence Foundation. And his resignation was effective as of Monday. And tried to take a look at who was on the board of the American Excellence Foundation and was not able to find that. But this is a strategy. And as I say, I like Paul Lundin personally, but as far as his scores on cut, which would be standing for the taxpayer or over on Liberty Scorecard, he had many areas of places where he could improve. And so the strategy is this. The Democrats do this all the time as well, is that there will be a resignation and then there will be a vacancy committee that will fill that position. making that particular person an incumbent, which hopefully then, in this case, that Republican incumbent will then be reelected upon the next election. I do wish Paul Lundeen well on all of this, and I really would like to encourage Republicans our representatives to really stand for the taxpayer and for liberty. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. 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Well, thank you, Kim. There's never a dull moment when we look at these issues.
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We look back at the summer of love of 2020 where peaceful protesters, I have that in air quotes, rioters, destroyed businesses, destroyed many of our cities. And the one thing about it was is they were unbiased. No matter whether or not you were black, white, white. No matter your race, no matter your gender, whatever it was, they destroyed all the businesses. So I would say I guess they're pretty fair about that. But I'm really concerned that this that I think I'm concerned that this is a provocation to get to get a result that is very dangerous. What's your thoughts?
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Well, it reminds me of what occurred in 2020. Let's see. Yeah, yeah, 2020, during the COVID thing down at the state capitol here in Colorado, where rioters were allowed, or insurgents, I don't know what you want to call them, were allowed to camp out right outside the capitol building and across Lincoln Street. And then they tore the outside of the building apart. They weren't able to get in. I mean, they tried dramatically. But the reason I bring that up as an example is I got to see that a little more up close and personal. Of course, I had was no longer in the legislature, but I've been active all along. And I remember being down there one day and I thought, I need to make a visual record of what has occurred. So I went around the building taking pictures of all of the destruction that had occurred. And I've got 40 or 50 shots that I think I've still got them up on my website somewhere, if I recall. And As I went around to one side, I was taking a picture of the window to the governor's office, and this guy comes up to me, and he acted like he was one of the organizers of this. And he said, what are you doing? Kind of like he was in charge and I was not. And I said, well, I'm documenting all of this destruction that's occurred here. And he said, you're right. And he took credit for it. And he said, if they don't do what we tell them to, we're going to burn the place down.
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And I don't think he was kidding. And here's the point, that this is an organized agenda to destroy our culture, to destroy the infrastructure, in this case to literally destroy the state capitol building for Colorado. And the governor and the mayor stood by and watched. They said, well, let them blow off a little steam. Of course, this was the middle of COVID where they were locking everybody else down and telling them, you've got to stay six feet apart and you can't do this and you can't do that and you can't meet. But when it came to this rampant destruction, they just let it happen. And I'm not going to accuse them of being a part of the conspiracy to burn it all down, but they are certainly complicit in the actions, because what needs to happen is what law enforcement is supposed to do every day they go to work, and that is you keep the peace. And if you see some You know, if you're brought into a situation where somebody is breaking the law, you break it up. You get, you know, you put them in jail. And that's why we have these laws. But they've been ignored when it gets to this big, you know, it's like they're cowards. either that or they're a part of the problem. You know, they're simply trying to tear the place down. But these aren't little random occasional actions from, you know, kids that just got out of school. No, no, there's too much organizational effort behind it. And right now it's the efforts of ICE, to get rid of the truly bad guys who came here illegally and are criminals. I mean, what ICE is doing right now is they're individually determining where are these people and going and trying to find them. And if they find somebody else who is here illegally, they deal with that as it's ICE's job to do, which is you detain them and you deport them. But what we're seeing... is a bigger picture than just that. That's just the latest event because, you know, there was the something Wall Street. What was that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I remember now. Yeah. It was Occupy Wall Street.
SPEAKER 06 :
Occupy Wall Street. Yes. Thank you. And then when it came to the COVID year, Then it took on a new face, but it was sort of the same thing. It was the anarchists, and there are plenty of people who have probably been taught in their universities that this country is bad and anything else has got to be better, so they kind of pile on and become the unwitting pawns of people who really do have an agenda to tear it down. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if you discover that our international enemies are behind this. You know, the people who chant in Iran and the people who push them on to say, you know, America is the great Satan. And then, of course, the Chinese Communist Party, they're their goal is to dominate and they want to take out the superpower and that's us. And, and of course there's a real conflict in, in, in worldviews here too, because we are talking about cultures that, that are set on domination. And in the case of the communist China party, they're, their whole foundation is is an atheistic perspective on life that you know it's the law of the jungle and and they're they're trying to be the top lion you know and and this country was founded on very different principles but but right now we're being threatened in many ways and and in my mind what needs to happen let me just kind of wrap this up to say that that the leaders of this nation need to step up and say, we've got a problem that needs to be fixed now. And I'm very grateful that the president and the people he's put in charge have that very attitude. And, you know, the leaders in our state and in our nation and in other states that don't share that sound voice view, and dare I say it, a biblical view of what life is all about and how nations and how governments are to conduct themselves, you know, those who are contrary to that need to be told that in this country, We have the rule of law. We have a set of laws that are as fair and square as we can contrive them to be. And we're going to enforce those. And if you intentionally break the law, if you do it in mass, that doesn't make it right. That makes it more wrong. And you need to be stopped and stopped now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I want to continue this discussion with Kevin Lundberg about what is happening in our country right now. I would say that this is a color revolution has been defined as setting up Western democracies. I would say then that this is an an anti-color revolution where i believe that it is trying to undermine america there are those that i think are being played in in this whole thing this whole no kings.org we'll continue to talk about that here in just a moment we have these discussions because of our sponsors and if you're buying or selling your home you certainly want to have karen levine on your side of the table
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity on all of these issues that are facing us. And Hooters Restaurants is one of our sponsors of both the Kim Munson Show and America's Veterans Stories. How I Got to Know Them, very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and those pesky PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties who are trying to control our lives, our communities. And so it's a really important story. But again, they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. So be sure and check them out. And also the Center for American Values is located in Pueblo, Colorado, on the beautiful Riverwalk. They're nonpartisan. They're nonpolitical. They're focusing on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism, which are foundations of our country. And so check out their website. That is AmericanValuesCenter.org. I have on the line with me Kevin Lundberg, and he is a former state senator, author of the Lundberg Report, which you can find at KevinLundberg.com. And Kevin, I just wanted to run through this thing on this KnowKings.org, because if... What I think – this is very well organized, and it's hiding these issues where people that may be only watching CNN or MSNBC have this hatred of Donald Trump. That it's going to play into, they think that in their minds that they would be doing something good to show up at these protests. And I think that some of these protests will devolve into riots and word on the streets that's going to happen in some of these cities. But I wanted to go through the things that they have. So you grew up in the 60s, and you thought government was overreaching, yet how – I can't understand how – those progressives thought everything was okay during the old biden harris administration to to do all the things that they did but anyway you're there you're watching cnn msnbc and you see they've defied our courts so you first of all we take a look at all this lawfare against donald trump we've seen law i've seen lawfare personally with some good friends of mine And so we see lawfare, but they're saying to fight our courts. Then deported Americans. Well, I'm not sure that I know of any Americans that have been deported, but I know that guy that's a criminal, El Salvador, where the Democrat senators are going down to visit him. So you've got this fomenting in your mind. Disappeared people off the streets. Well, this is one of the news stories that they're saying. Attacked our civil rights and then slashed our services. So, for example, Medicaid, which Doge was looking for, waste, fraud and abuse. And so they want to play into all that. And I'm just concerned that people... that might be your cnn msnbc watchers are going to get dragged into this agenda that's being pushed that i think wants to take it down america is what i think i know that's big you know big comments there what do you think well uh first off i i agree with you um
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that it's very easy for people to get pulled into this. They're in their own little news bubble, you might say. I try to cover all the bases in my searching for the facts and the issues that really need to come out in the things I do, like my newsletter and this conversation here, the Monday morning Zoom call that I conduct. And something happened on the call last night or yesterday on my Zoom call that I think is very important. We were obviously discussing the same subjects here. And one lady that is a regular listener to your program as well and has a military and a police background said, don't get sucked into this. Don't even go down to observe these things, because that just ramps up everything. And this is really dangerous stuff. This stuff can blow up into a real riot where people are killed very easily. And that's what a lot of the fomentors of this, I'm certain, are doing. One thing, they want to, as I said before, burn it all down because they think they've got a better idea, and that's them being the top lion in the world. Don't comply in any way whatsoever. Look at what a civil society is all about, and that's understanding right and wrong, establishing a framework, a set of laws in this country. We start with what's called the United States Constitution and then following those to the best of your ability and encouraging that normalcy that we should seek to live a peaceable life. and to do good to one another. But this is the exact opposite of that, and it's really dangerous stuff that you can get sucked into because there are group dynamics that can occur. You get down in a big crowd like that, and if things start to unglue like they are in L.A., and we see... You know, it's not just one isolated incident. Every day there are multiple pictures of people throwing rocks at cars and, you know, particularly ICE vehicles on freeways and burning other cars. And, you know, we need to back off. My daughter called me yesterday and she said, you know, they're planning one of these, quote, protests in Berthoud. You know, that's the town I live nearby. And and she said, yeah, and in Longmont and Port Collins and Greeley and Loveland. And, you know, it's it's it's like there's a real organized effort. And I know that this is no King's group. has really popped up. I see that just going through my email during the break, I ran across one where Westward magazine is encouraging people to join the protests in Denver, what they call the No Kings Rally. These are anarchists who are promoting this being egged on by big international leaders who want to burn this country to the ground. And they think maybe they've got the opportunity. I don't think so, frankly. I believe that the vast majority of the people in Colorado and the people across this nation have had it with all of this stuff. And I think the opposition is going to burn themselves out over it. But you could get You know, you could become a part of the problem if you're not careful on this stuff.
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Well, we do need to be really careful, and I am looking at this. So two things, but I'm looking at this nokings.org, and it's difficult to find names on it, but I just found one, and this should give you – so first of all, one of them is they go after President Trump, but the next thing – Join AFT President Randy Weingarten for a special town hall on June 10th at 6 p.m. to prepare for No King's Day on June 14th. Together, we'll get ready to organize, mobilize, and build power for the future. There you have it. This woman, who was the head of the American Federation of Teachers, the Teachers Union, you've got personal experience in how they've been going after our children. through this whole trans activist agenda. So connect that dot. We need to connect that dot.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, this is supposed to be a leader of the teachers in our country. Well, the agenda is pretty clear here. And here's an irony of all this as well, is these people who are saying no kings are actually playing right into politics. into the tyrant's hands who think they are king. And our nation that is really set up on the principle of individual liberty and individual responsibility and free market economic systems, I say based on the principle because we've been compromised to so much by those who, you know, they call us fascists. Well, they have no idea what fascism is. Fascism is the government control of everything. You know, if the government goes ahead and says, well, we own it as well, now you call it socialism. But they're very, very similar. It's a dictator from the top who's telling everybody what you're going to do, when you're going to do it, and how you're going to do it. That's what they've got in China. That's what they have in far too many other dysfunctional countries in this world. But our nation was founded on that principle of liberty. And these folks who are pushing this are the exact opposite of what they claim to be. You know, I ran across another. What was this deal where there's a conference being held somewhere here in Colorado about the those who are pushing for a single payer health care system. And they've put together this conference, and it has a poster. Let me just read to you some of the details on the poster, because they're trying to say that we, the people, need to get involved. And they say, people-powered action for single-payer health care. Stand up to corporate greed. Health care... a human right, people over profits. I'm just reading off this poster they have, which looks like it came out of an old-time Soviet propaganda piece, and demonstrate with us health care for everyone, stand up to corporate greed. I'm just reading through the thing. Oh, yeah, and here's a little... This is a telling one. So there's a little graphic within here where it's got that red circle with a line to it that says no, you know, means no. And then it's got across it the word kings. No kings. So they're doing the same thing. But what they're begging for is the government to be in charge of all of the medical systems.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so and the other thing you said, standing up to corporate greed. And as I've talked with our young producers, Joe and Luke said, what can be greedier than government taking 10, 20, 30 percent of your paycheck and they can do it by force? What is greedier than that? And so it's important that we understand that, I think, Kevin Lundberg.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. You know, I know we've got to go to a break pretty quick here, but maybe we can wrap this up on a topic that I think we're going to cover a little bit, and that is I had some comments about the big, beautiful bill cutting back on Medicaid. And that's because Trump's trying to break this cycle, this maddening cycle that the government's got to step in and take care of everybody and everything. And isn't it ironic that these folks who are saying no kings for us are actually begging to become the serfs of the system?
SPEAKER 04 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. It is a nonprofit I dearly love. The memorial is located right here in Colorado in Golden. And it's time for a facelift. And Paula Sarles and her team's working diligently to make that happen. And you can help them by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Talking with Kevin Lundberg, former state senator, author of the Lundberg Report. And, yes, let's talk a little bit about Medicaid. Because on this thing, on nokings.org, one of the implications, it says, is slashing services. And one of the things that has happened with Doge is they found waste, fraud and abuse in the Medicaid area. And they said, we've got to get rid of that. And, oh, my gosh, we've got people now saying, no, no, no, we want to keep that waste, fraud and abuse. But they're saying it under the guise of that Trump wants to cut services. So what's your thoughts on this, Kevin Lumberg?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's why I highlighted that in my current newsletter. I was confused. Looking at all this stuff and all the stories I've heard about the Medicaid funding, which the bill in Congress is designed to tighten the screws on that and to back away from such a wholesale providing of Medicaid. Here in Colorado, it's somewhere between 30 and 40 percent of the population of everybody in the state is on Medicaid. And yeah, should that be cut back? Yes, it should. But not, you know, and there will be personal stories of somebody who says, well, you know, this is a real dilemma for me. Well, yeah, but the problem is when the government starts to kick in and when you have this, you know, the biggest payer of medical bills is the government. And that's a third-party payer. And you've got to go back to the fundamentals of the economics here. If you've got a third-party payer, in other words, they're not giving the services, they're not receiving the services, they're just paying for it. Well, the other parties, the providers and the patients think, well, I guess it's free money. We'll just go ahead and, you know, spend whatever we can, whatever the government's dumb enough to give us, we'll be smart enough to take. Well, this has developed a system where the pricing within medical services is completely out of control. I understand and I've heard on many occasions that if you go to the hospital and they then send you a bill and you pay it, you probably paid 10 times what they expected to get out of it. 10 times. And how many times have you seen if you've got medical insurance covering some drugs that the bill will maybe be 20 times what actually your insurance company reimburses. Well, you know, the pharmacies, the pharmaceutical folks in the insurance companies, they've drilled down to what the real costs are. And this is just nonsense and nuts. Today, the average citizen cannot afford to get sick if they're paying for anything. And this is not crisis and now the government has to rush in and pay for more of it. No, it's because the government has provided so much of this third-party paying system that these prices have gone completely ballistic and unrealistic. I applaud Trump and the leaders in Congress that are doing their level best to pull back on this. I mean, and they're just barely touching the brakes right now. But one of the effects is that the hundreds of thousands or maybe a million people in Colorado, literally, who have productivity, you know, productive capacity themselves are on Medicaid. And Medicaid is supposed to be for those who are just at the, you know, at the end of their rope. There's no other financial support. to handle their medical costs. It was supposed to be that safety net of last resort where just a few people are actually on that role because the rest of us are out there working and paying our bills and buying our medical insurance, et cetera. But it's blown up, and we've got to change gears. And we cannot get sucked into this, oh, you're slicing services. No, what you're doing is you're pulling back to what might be realistic in the future.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and ultimately, I was thinking about it yesterday. I had mentioned that I'd love to start a MAFA movement, Make America Free Again, and checked out and some of those words are used already. But I'm looking at what we need to do i think first and foremost for freedom i think we need to demand that government across the board uh local school districts all the way up to the top that we have a ten percent cut i think we just need to ask for that and with ten percent cut in regulations but uh oh kevin this has been so fascinating we're just about out of time but hey let me jump in right there if i might because when i was in the
SPEAKER 06 :
On several occasions, I actually tried to do that to the state budget. I had an amendment that would, across the board, cut 10% out of everything. And, of course, it was seen as just being completely unrealistic, that nobody will ever do this. And actually, I was following the pattern that Joe Nunez did when he was in the House many, many years ago, where he came up with that. And then, okay, you don't like that amendment? Well, how about if we cut 1%? And then I had another amendment that said, how about if we cut one-tenth of one percent? And, of course, everybody laughed as if it was foolish. But, in fact, you're quite correct that it's going to take that kind of rolling up our sleeves and really getting the job done. And I do believe that Trump and Musk, when the two of them were talking well, had that in mind. And still have it in mind, and it must happen, because we are on a trajectory of destruction.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, we are.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if we just tap the brakes, that just means we get there a little slower. But we've got to turn the wheel around 180 degrees, and that's a huge part of it.
SPEAKER 04 :
It certainly is. Hey, Kevin, one other thing as I'm messing around multitasking when we're talking, you've got me thinking about all kinds of things. On this nokings.org, they have their partners. And you can take a look at it, and it is many of them very left-leaning organizations. So you can see how this is all being very well organized together. to ramp up because they're trying to make something happen. And to your point, those that want to put total faith in government is making government their king. And that is not how it's supposed to be in America. So we've got 45 seconds for your final thought.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I couldn't agree more. But as we go through the next few days, and especially as they're trying to import all this to not just Denver, but little towns all across the state, don't take the bait. Don't think you can go and argue yourself, you know, argue with these organizers. They're looking for people to show up because they're trying to ramp this up into a real crisis. And I believe that we, the people of Colorado, can... can put this to bed by not playing into them and insist that our law enforcement... Now, if they're legitimate protesters putting signs out, I have no problem with that. But I have a big problem with those who are fomenting violence and, as I say, stay far away from them, give them their constitutional right to protest, But when something goes further than that, get out of the way.
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Well, and we need to enforce the law. And you'd think that you and I talked about our quote for the end of the show. We didn't. It's from Alexander Shultz Nitzan. He said this, violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence. So there you have it, Kevin Lundberg. Thank you so much. My friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You are not alone.
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Yes, ma'am, it was. A lot of good information, though.
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And if you missed it, you can catch that today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon, because we're on 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night, and that is on all KLZ 560 platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. the KLZ website and the KLZ app. And check out my website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. You will get a sign up for our weekly email newsletter. That way you'll get first look at everything that's going to happen over the next week. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. Our word of the day. and thank you to Dave, is patronage. Let me get to it. And it is, this is from American Heritage Dictionary. Could be the support or encouragement of a patron as for an institution or cause. It's spelled P-A-T-R-O-N-A-G-E. Number two, it could be support or encouragement preferred in condescending manner such as our little establishment has finally been deemed worthy of the bank's patronage and then lastly to the trade given to a commercial establishment by its customers they have an example of shopkeepers thank Christmas shoppers for their patronage and so your challenge is to use that in a sentence today Our quote of the day comes from Alexander Shultzenitsyn. He was born in 1918 and died in 2008. He was a Soviet and Russian author and dissident. And he helped to raise global awareness of political repression in the Soviet Union. And he said this, the simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie. One word of truth outweighs the world. So one more time, the simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie. One part of truth outweighs the world. And that's why the discussion with Kevin was so important today, is these protests that are... being planned for this saturday throughout the country and i agree with kevin peaceful protest is inherent in the american idea my concern is that there are those that want to devolve this into violence and ultimately they want to take it down take down The American idea, the sanctity of the individual, the vision of our country that we're all created in the image of our creator and with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And those that are fomenting this NoKings.org, and you look at all of the different organizations that are promoting that, are those that are promoting that government, which they control, would be in control of everyone's lives. That government would be the king. And that is not the way it is supposed to be. And If, in fact, we see these Democrat mayors and governors, primarily of these blue states, step back because this is somewhat orchestrated. Step back and don't have our police officers come in to keep the peace. And put our police officers, first of all, in great danger. This is not okay. But ultimately to escalate to some kind of violence that can then play out in the news is really wrong. And so with Donald Trump sending in the National Guard, normally a National Guard would be invited in by a governor. Gavin Newsom is not inviting him. that the national guard in meanwhile there is protests that are devolving into cars being burned which is property being destroyed that is not okay that is not a peaceful protest and it could be trying to fan the flames of violence which the quote, it's amazing how that happened, that I had chosen for the end of the show, I'll just share that with you, from Alexander Shultzenitsyn, is, violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence. And so stay tuned. We're going to watch what's happening with all of this, and hopefully people are not injured. But if you're injured... You certainly want to reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law. I wanted to talk with him about products and products that may not work properly. John Bozen, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good morning, Kim. What a segue there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Man, there's a lot going on right now, John Bozen.
SPEAKER 07 :
There is. You and I know it. I think there's another layer or two beneath what you cover already. Some would call that the ultra conspiracy. But yeah, these things are definitely organized and the professional disruptors, rioters that are being more likely than not paid. It's just a matter of time before I think all of that comes to see the light of day. But very disappointing what's happening. And we're going to see what happens in Colorado here real soon, aren't we?
SPEAKER 04 :
We are. Is Mike Johnston and Governor Polis going to step back like they did? Well, I guess Johnston, I don't think he was the mayor in 2020. But are they going to step back and hands off and and again, let businesses be destroyed? As Kevin Lundberg said in our number one, he'd taken pictures. Our capital is. was totally attacked. In fact, Rick Turnquist had written an essay for us about all of the Summer of Love protesters. And on the side of the Capitol, in big letters, was the F word. And so we had used that image, which was out there in the public, for his essay. And Facebook denied it because they said that it was words that could not be used. But yet that was a word that was painted on the side of the Capitol after the Summer of Love.
SPEAKER 07 :
I didn't know that. But disgusting and We'll see. I guess this Saturday what happens. I don't expect Johnston to do anything. He has presidential intentions, and so he's going to have to handle it very carefully. We'll see what he does.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we'll have to see what happens on that. But I wanted to ask you some of the things, and we haven't really talked much about this recently, but you can help people regarding product cases, defective products, and pharmaceuticals. So expound on that a little bit, John Bozen.
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SPEAKER 04 :
So, John Bozen, another question, because as we've been talking about this narrative out there, and what you've alluded to is what would be called corporate greed, putting people over profits or putting profits over people. And ultimately, a business, if they always do that and they harm the people, they need to be held accountable. But I think it needs to happen through the courts because those that then want to make government in charge of everything to keep us safe are Ultimately, government takes more and more control. I'm not sure I'm getting my question to you like I want to.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think I know where you're going. Yes, at some point, the government needs to be looked at for their responsibility in situations and harm caused by people or caused by their decisions, government's decisions. We've got some tough stuff that we as law firms and lawyers are going to be looking at, have been looking at for some time with regard to the COVID vaccines and government's part in allowing what happened to people to happen, granting immunity to pharmaceuticals, companies that have histories of lying and doing the wrong thing. There were a lot of mistakes made. And as more and more, again, information becomes more public and acknowledged as the truth about what was going on during that time and when all of that happened, there's more of a likelihood that we're going to be looking at the government for their part in allowing what happened to happen.
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Okay, and that's 303-999-9999. John Bozen, thank you so much. We'll talk again next week.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Kim. Keep your voice loud.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning, Kim. I'm excited to be with you. Yes, the book's out there and it's on the move.
SPEAKER 04 :
That is exciting. And it's the title is The Revelation of Emery Audubon. And your website is annrecker.com. That's A-N-N-R-O-E-C-K-E-R. And I guess my first question is, what is apologetics fiction?
SPEAKER 09 :
Apologetic fiction is a trending genre I'm really excited about. It entertains readers like any good story, but it also seeks to answer readers' questions about God, Jesus, the Bible, and life. I like to say that apologetic fiction smuggles God's truth across enemy lines using story as a cover. So it's a lot of fun. And I like to posture it as if apologetics fiction is brand new. In one way, it is because it's coming back out in the public square. But Jesus's parables were short stories that answered questions about God in heaven. Some examples of apologetics fiction that are well-known might be C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters. which answers the question, what are the devil's everyday schemes we barely notice that mess with our lives? The shack answers the question, where is God when horrible things happen? In my story, the revelation of Emery Audubon answers the question, why hasn't God put a stop to evil in the world? So I do that in a fun way, and it's a romp through the book of Revelation as we look at that question.
SPEAKER 04 :
which is amazing. And so this is the book, you've geared this towards young adults, yes, but it's probably really for everyone, yes?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, it's absolutely for everyone. In fact, a lot of people, a surprising group of people are older guys that are reading it, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
And tell us a little bit about Emory Audubon.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Emery Audubon is—the story is about a student who sparks reformation at her prestigious but corrupt university after reading Revelation. But unlike many young adult stories, Emery Audubon, who's my main character, she isn't a loser. She isn't a victim. In fact, she has everything going for her from the normal point of view. Her father's a pioneering space scientist. She's a good student. She's been accepted at the nation's top university. And her future's bright. But what she doesn't have going for her is the truth. And she doesn't even know it. She's been raised in a near-future America that advances some of the societal trends that we're seeing in our own culture. In Emery's world, the history books have been rewritten to erase our nation's Judeo-Christian heritage. The Bible's been banned, and schools are required by law to teach kids that there is no God. And Emery doesn't really care about this ideological takeover, and she... She doesn't think it matters. But then she gets to college, and a fellow student invites her to take an illegal class that meets in a campus basement on the Book of Revelation. And over the course of the story, Emery reads this dazzling last book of the Bible, and she studies Revelation's key symbols, and this wakes her up to what's going on around her. And she discovers that there is a God, that what she's been taught all her life is a lie, and that not only is there a God, he's the only God, and he reigns and he redeems, and he's on track to redeem and reform and restore our fallen world. Emery still doesn't intend to do anything about this as she wakes up to what's going on in her world. But then she gets in a big tangle with the officials at her university. And at the end of the day, she is in a position where she has to stand up for her new faith. And she has to do it in a big way. And she doesn't yell or scream, but she does shake things up. And so it's a question that we have to ask as we read the book. Can we reform the ruin in our society? And in her case, particularly the educational system. And if so, what does that look like? And Emory has to go on that journey to answer tough questions and make some mistakes and confront her university. But she does this through lessons she's learned from the Book of Revelation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and there are those that think that Revelation is really just a book about the end times. So what would you say to that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah, a lot of us tend to think, okay, Revelation, it's about the end times, and it's going to be a mess, and how do we avoid it? And there's been mega best-selling stories about the end times and when we'll get raptured and all this stuff. But I feel like these stories have totally missed the biggest point of Revelation. And yes, Revelation gives us a heads up on the end times. But the point of the last book in the Bible isn't the greatest tribulation in history and trying to avoid it. It's about God ending evil in the world once and for all. And ending evil isn't something we can do. God does it for us, and this is mighty good news. Another amazing aspect of Revelation is its symbols. The Revelation of Emery Audubon takes readers on a journey to discover what the key symbols mean in Revelation and how they explain all of history. And when Emery understands these symbols, she has her own revelation, and she understands what steps she needs to take despite the opposition to spark reformation at her corrupt university, even as top officials are out to ruin her life. And so she's facing deeply entrenched strongholds, lies that have been widely accepted in society, and so Revelation equips her to do that. And so... I've begun to look at Revelation in a whole new way. It isn't about the end times so much as it's a roadmap for reformation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's a really interesting book, The Revelation of Emory Audubon by Ann Recker. We're going to continue the discussion. Before we do that, though, where can people purchase the book?
SPEAKER 09 :
People can purchase the book on my website, www.emoryaudubon.com. and record.com or they can go to amazon.com slash author slash and record and you can just type in and record and Amazon books and you'll it'll pop it up.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation. Their website is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And it is so important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives, been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And in getting to know Paula Sarles with the USMC Memorial. Foundation. Got to know Don Whipple, who is one of the Iwo Jima World War II veterans that was a member of Cooper's Troopers, and he recently passed on. A fabulous man, a pastor, ministered to many, many young military and veterans, and he recently passed on. We did, on America's Veterans Stories this last weekend, replay one of his interviews that we had done because we wanted to honor him. So check out usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I'm talking with Ann Recker about her book, The Revelation of Emery Audubon. And I've seen different reports that young people have walked away from the church, but I'm seeing reports that young people are Coming back to faith, how would you address that, Ann?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yes, I'm hearing those same reports, Kim. And about 10 years ago, we were hearing a lot of studies about students getting, leaving home. You know, they were raised in Christian homes, went to youth groups. had a lot of fun, made friends, but then they went off to college or they were in youth groups in college and then graduated, got into careers, and then left their faith. And those studies showed that the reason for that is kids weren't getting their questions answered about God. And that's where apologetics comes in. Apologetics answers our questions about God. It defends our faith, both for ourselves and for the public square. But pastors and parents were feeling like if kids were having fun in youth groups and singing songs, that they were getting grounded in their faith, and we were finding that wasn't true. Apologetics, though, isn't something every kid takes an interest in. They're not going to dive into the answers to their faith. And that's one of the reasons I wrote the Revelation of Emory Audubon. It's a fun way to answer the reader's questions about God. And kids that won't read a tome on apologetics, they will read a good story. But the more recent news is we're hearing kids coming back to faith, especially young men. But I think one of the things that I feel a word of caution about is we're hearing about revivals and kids coming back to faith and campuses getting excited about Christianity again. But I came to faith during a revival, during the Jesus revolution. And millions of people came to faith during that time, and church services got livelier, and some things began to be done in a new way. But what didn't happen is that revival didn't go on to impact our culture. It didn't go on to reform our nation, to disciple our nation, as Jesus calls us to do in the book of Matthew. He says... disciples and nations, what that means is to reform our nation, to get involved in every pillar of society. And if we don't do that, I would posture that the devil does. And we've seen that in the steep downgrade in our culture since the 70s and 80s, that Christians weren't out there speaking up in education and and media, and business, and all aspects of society. And so we've seen this horrible things happening in all pillars of society. So as these new revivals and this new return to the Church comes, I think it's an invitation to, yes, let's come back to the Church, but let's not be lazy about that. Let's tackle those hard questions about our faith. Let's make sure people coming back to the church understand what Christianity is. It isn't just a feel-good experience. It equips us to have victory in our lives. It connects us with our Creator. It builds a coalition of people who are out there fighting the good fight. And many people are doing that, and you're doing that, Kim, on the airwaves. And we have to keep doing that, and we can't give up on these tough fights. that look like a losing battle, they're not losing. At the end of the day, God's our victory, and we have to bring God's truth out into the public square and keep fighting that fight and equip those who are returning to the church to understand that it's not just, you know, Christianity light. It's a Christianity that's robust and powerful, and it demolishes strongholds, so let's go do that fight.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and that's why your book, The Revelation of Emery Audubon, is so important. Ann Recker, I've been reflective, really thinking a lot about our culture and our society, and we've got these foundational principles. Now, America did not force religion, which I think is amazing. And the reason is, is because I think the founders felt that Christianity can stand on its own two feet in the battle of ideas. And I say on the show, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force it. Christ did not force himself upon anyone. It's all based—and the word liberty and freedom is in the Bible— But the sanctity of the individual and these rights from God, and when we're created in the image of God, he's a creator. So that means that we create, we innovate, which America gave people the freedom to do that. And when we talk about life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, I've been thinking a lot about this transition. transgender agenda this radical activist agenda that has has um encouraged the mutilation of children so that they cannot create uh and have children in the future and i think we take a gut test and say hey if there's something that's standing against creativity And life and liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom, those are not good ideas. And I think we need to be engaging in that, which is, I think, what you're doing with your book.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, exactly. And it means saying it's discerning the times, Kim. And my book is an invitation. Let's discern the times. What's really what? What's really truth? What really isn't? And the transgender issue is such a tough one because essentially it's kidnapping kids from their God-given identity and their God-given identity and who they are and who they're created to be. Every single one of us, God has given us a purpose, and we don't have to reinvent that. And there's an element in our culture— that wants to say there is no God, like there is in my story, The Revelation of Emery Audubon. So we're going to create our own version of truth. And it only leads to ruin. It only wrecks kids' lives. And I just, we're hearing horror stories of one gentleman who who totally lost contact with his daughter because some teacher in her school talked her into becoming transgender. And he couldn't, he couldn't, he couldn't, the school system, unless he bought into that agenda, they wouldn't let him own his daughter anymore. Well, the schools don't own our children. That's a bold-faced lie. And to put up with this, it's like, enough. We're not going to put up with this. And I think we have to learn how to have that conversation. I know one mother who her son walked into a bathroom at school and or rather her daughter walked into a bathroom at school and there was a boy in there and she trained her daughter how to talk to that boy. As he was trying to transgender, she trained her daughter to say, I like you as a boy. You're OK as a boy. And she talked to the school system in a noncombative way. And she said, my daughter has a right to her identity. And how are we going to partner together? to make sure her identity is affirmed. And so she turned it around. So I think there's some creative strategies going on out there, and we need to learn from each other. I think sometimes that conversation is a gentle, let's find common ground conversation. And sometimes it's saying to the thief, get out of my house. You're not stealing my kids. You're not stealing common sense. You're not stealing biblical truth. And we're not putting up with it. So I think we have to be armed with both strategies, and both strategies have a time and place, Kim. But we just can't sit back and say, oh, this too shall pass. I think we've got to fight it with the truth and clarity you're talking about. And we do it, and we do it consistently. And we say, no, you're not snatching our kids. And Colorado has some particular challenges because laws are passing and being attempted to pass that really upend biblical truth and seek to overtake them, at the end of the day, biblical truth is going to last. And these other, they're not just weird things. They're wicked, and we can't put up with them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and that's why your book is so important. One last comment, and I love to read. I read all kinds of books when I was a child. I used to read total books. That hasn't happened lately a lot because I've been reading to stay up on things for the show. But when people say that they're reading for pleasure – I remember that there was a really nasty book out there that was very popular. And I would see all kinds of suburban women reading the particular book. And my dad taught me this. There's only a certain amount of hours in the day. And you choose what you do with those. So if you're going to read for pleasure... I recommended this to my family is read for things that uphold the human spirit. Read things that are not nasty, those kinds of things. That's not pleasure. That's not a good idea to go down that road. We as individuals have to have that discipline. And so the book, The Revelation of Emery Audubon, is something you have a certain amount of hours in the day, your students have a certain amount of hours in the day, your kids, encourage to be reading these kinds of things that will uphold their spirit and, you know, give them some clarity to all of these issues that are out there right now. Your final thought on all this, Ann Recker.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, my final thought, Kim, is that I believe we're in an age of reformation. Many people have woken up to the fact that We can't put up with these ludicrous things in our culture anymore. I believe our government, our president and cabinet members are saying enough is enough. And I think let's join this season of reformation and jump into the fray and be reformers ourselves. And the revelation of Emery Audubon is all about that, is how do we spark reformation in the midst of ruin? And that's Emery Audubon's journey, and she's
SPEAKER 04 :
you know, let's join her in that journey. I love it. The book is The Revelation of Emery Audubon. Author is Ann Recker. You can purchase the book at her website. That's annrecker.com, A-N-N-R-O-E-C-K-E-R.com. Ann, thank you for this amazing book. The world has been waiting for this, and thank you for writing it. Thank you, Kim. I sure appreciate you. Right back at you. And these are such important discussions. And I have wonderful people that I work with as our sponsors. So for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. They're non-political, they're non-partisan, and they do this through their K-12 educational programs, their On Values presentations, and then honoring our Medal of Honor recipients. So be sure and check out that website. That is AmericanValuesCenter.org. On the line with me is Yvonne Paez. She's a co-founder of Perspectives 101. And she is an Army veteran. She was in law enforcement, grew up south of the border. And so she's got a unique perspective on what is happening out in L.A. Yvonne Paez, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you, Kim. It's nice to be with you.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you do guest host the show periodically. And you called yesterday. You'd actually got on the national radio show yesterday of Clay and Buck because of your perspective. So tell us a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I guess he was looking for other police officers in the area too, but they're a little busy right now. So I do have relatives in California, so I got in for a couple minutes. But I wanted to start with something here. Also, interesting enough, I was also in the National Guard. So really, I'm like the trifecta with all the angles to this. But it's interesting how during my 14 years as a guest in Mexico, it never occurred to me to fly a U.S. flag or start a riot. in mexico flying the u.s flag so um the only u.s flags i ever saw there was the u.s embassy flag at the embassy and uh and the well the american flag at the embassy and an american flag at american schools which flew you know they flew the flags in proper protocol placement as a respect to the country and respect is a beautiful thing and i think some folks in l.a could use a lesson in respect
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, this thing, as we have continued to unpack it, is very well organized. And people can see what they have planned at nokings.org. And then I got over here on the partners side of this, and this is a mini left-wing company. groups that are behind this, and there's a bunch of them. So your recommendation on what people should do this weekend, because they have protests, and you and I both believe in peaceful protests, but I'm concerned there are those that want to at least get some of these to devolve into violence.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, absolutely. These things are dangerous. And they, you know, the folks behind this, are just trying to suck people in and turn you into the next j6 scam so stay away these are not protests so there's no need for a counter protest these are riots um and they are a rent-a-mob and they are fire starters paid for by leftist communists or just whatever people that are trying to start things and um do not give them the attention that they're bucking for do not at all play into their hand because that's exactly what they want So the only attention they need is from the police and the National Guard, who exist precisely to end these little parties. And, you know, the leftist media has been saying that it's just some people having fun burning cars. Well, that is the definition of destruction and a riot and everything else. So these people are they're just lunatics, even the ones who are reporting on it that aren't being honest. And Colorado better take this stuff seriously and nip it in the bud or good people are going to get hurt. So a message to the mayor and to the governor, do not be like California. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. Do your job and direct law enforcement to do theirs. I say release the Kraken. Seriously, this stuff is dangerous.
SPEAKER 04 :
So the way I see this being played out, and particularly when I look at this list of partners, is that having Donald Trump bring in the military, which I don't really like the idea of military having to be used as law enforcement in America. I'm really uncomfortable with that. with that. So we have the National Guard and then there's reports that we have Marines or Army in California as well. What would you say to that? Yvonne Payette.
SPEAKER 10 :
Here's the thing with that. Here's the thing with that. I don't like military use either. As a matter of fact, if we all followed the Ten Commandments, we wouldn't need police either, you know? So, yes, we use police when we need them. We use the National Guard, which is at the discretion of the governor, as we need them. But when you have a governor who's probably in bed with all the people doing this, so he is not going to stop it because they're the ones who started it or his buddies are the ones who started it. Then we have a situation where California is part of the United States and it sits right on the border, which is inconvenient for having these kinds of riots with people flying the flag of, you know, that's just of the country that's just south of the border. So when we get into these things, when governors are not taking care of their own backyard and their stuff the way they should, and they do belong to a larger conglomerate, named the United States of America, and they happen to be precariously positioned on the border, well, then daddy's got to step in and take care of business. And that's what I mean by lead, follow, or get the heck out of the way. So if Gavin Newsom and his, you know, whatever, the governor over there and the mayor over there were taking care of their business, which they were not, somebody else wouldn't have to take care of it for them. So there's a time and a place, and I'm not for that either, but I'm also not for just handing over our country to a band of anarchists.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And as you're saying all this, I was just thinking about, remember all these news reports that Gavin Newsom wanted to have Trump, the federal government, he's frustrated that Trump has said, we're not going to send you these federal funds for blah, blah, blah, because of your policies. It's In our country, it's out of whack anyway. We should not be taking money from other states and borrowing from our children to fund things going on in each state. That's another thing that needs to go away is these government grants. But Gavin Newsom sure wanted the Donald Trump administration to send him money, though.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and you know, there's all of that stuff. And I don't know, you know, California is a long ways away from here kind of thing. I don't know him well. But the proof is in the police. So I don't know the nitty gritties of it. But I can see what's going on now. And the command takes on the personality of the commander. So frankly... California is a mess because those who are leading California in positions of government are a mess. So there's just I will make no excuses for them.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, final thought. We've got about a minute left. And thank you. Late breaking to call in and share your perspective on this, Yvonne Piaz.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. It's just so important because this is dangerous. So people shouldn't go in there, shouldn't play into the hand of any of this. And don't go to these riots disguised as protests. And it's time for some folks to face some consequences. So you started it. Somebody's going to have to finish this. And hopefully it'll be okay. But if people get stupid, it's not going to be pretty. Stay away.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that's really important advice to stay away and don't even go as an observer. And there are those with the agenda. And then I think we have... people that are well-meaning Americans that have this Donald Trump hate that are going to show up and could be pawns in this whole thing. So we need to be really wise as a country on this. Yvonne Paez, thank you so much. I greatly appreciate you sharing your perspective with us. Thank you, Kim. And we are in a very dangerous time in our country, and this is a trying to foment some kind of a revolution to overthrow the American idea of a constitutional republic. And so we need to be praying, we need to be working, shedding light on what's going on, talking with our friends, our family, and our neighbors. And our quote from Schultz and Knitzen is this. He said, violence can only be concealed by a lie, and a lie can only be maintained by by violence. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, we are not alone here. So God bless you, God bless America, and we'll talk with you again tomorrow. And so have a great day.
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Join us in this episode as we delve into the detailed review of the 2025 Volkswagen Taos SE. Richard and John explore what makes this compact SUV not only economical but also a fun ride. From its robust features like the 1.5-liter turbo engine to practical elements designed for both everyday commutes and off-road excursions, this car stands out in a rapidly growing segment. Discover why the Taos SE, with its intuitive controls and resilient interior, is becoming a favorite among families and city dwellers alike. The episode provides an insightful peek into the functionalities and updates, including a new transmission system and spacious interior, suitable for everyone from small families to outdoor enthusiasts. Wrapping up with a discussion on the broader SUV market, including the importance of versatility, Richard and John leave listeners with a strong understanding of the 2025 Volkswagen Taos SE's place in the automotive landscape. Tune in for all the reasons this vehicle may just be your next necessity.
SPEAKER 01 :
All right, we are back. As I said a moment ago, we do car reviews each week, which this week, Richard, we've got a review again. What did you drive recently?
SPEAKER 02 :
So, Dad, I drove actually one of my more enjoyable cars of the past few months. And kind of some of you are going to think, well, that's kind of a weird thing to say. But, you know, it is what it is. This is a 2025 Volkswagen Taos. This is the SE, Dad, which is kind of their middle, sort of kind of middle value pick, I guess you could say. This car, Dad, or I should say this SUV, as it sits with 31,475, and you can get an S model for about 26, or you can get the SEL for about 36. So right there between kind of the mid-20s to mid-30s as far as that goes, Dad. This on it, I've got the window sticker here, so I'm going to give folks some of the features. This has the all-wheel drive, the 1.5-liter turbo four-cylinder engine, the start-stop system, 18-inch wheels, rain-sensing wipers, rear window washer and wiper, all that sort of stuff, illuminated mirrors, front-row charging ports. It's got cloud tech and cloth seating surfaces, which I'll talk about in just a second. It's got a lot of other obviously kind of safety features as far as the digital cockpit and push button starts and remote engine start and all sorts of things, Dad. All of these things for, like I said, $31,475. And it also has, Dad, which this might be a nice thing, 24-hour roadside assistance for three years and 36,000 miles, which I think is a really, really nice feature on that. All this to say that the reason it was one of my most enjoyable cars is because for the money, it is really hard to beat, and it was just a fun car to drive. You got in it. The controls were very functional. They were very intuitive. They worked really, really well. The soft tech that features or that... the cloth kind of like material I mentioned, it kind of was like a suede, kind of like a leather, Dad, but you felt like you could beat it up a little bit more. And you know kind of what I mean, right? When you have kids especially, it's not something that I worried about getting super dirty or anything like that. I felt like I could spill something on it and wash it off, right? And it's not something that did happen, but I felt like it could. And especially here in Colorado, Dad, right, we see a lot of Volkswagens around People take them off-road all the time, and it's something I felt like you could do, and you didn't have to worry about taking super, super great care of it. This is the updated Taos generation that was introduced in 2022. They've revised the styling a little bit. I already mentioned the engine. The all-wheel drive models do have a new transmission on it, Dad, and they've also updated it with a larger touchscreen, and so that kind of goes back to some of what I mentioned. Relatively quiet on the inside, Dad, right, for a car in the low 30s in terms of a price point. In this segment, Dad, and you can speak on this, kind of this, I guess it's the small SUV, or Volkswagen kind of says it's like the extra small SUV category. This is becoming a really popular category, and for this price point, I think the Taos fits really, really nicely.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. And again, for a lot of folks, that particular segment, as you know, Richard, is huge. And I mean, when I say huge, I mean huge. There are several, typically in a manufacturer, several different cars that fit in a particular lineup. And what I mean by that is, no, they're not all the same size as the Taos and Volkswagen will even have smaller, larger. And so my point is that That midsize, small to large midsize SUV, end of things, Richard, is absolutely ginormous. It is a huge segment of the marketplace right now. It will continue to be a huge segment. And the reason for that is because the cars in that segment, the cars are so versatile that you find yourself not needing anything else other than that particular vehicle. That's why they're so hot right now and why everybody wants one.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. And especially, you know, I'll go back to the kid side of stuff. I was able to get two car seats in here. Now, are you going to be able to fit two rear-facing car seats? Probably not. You've got to kind of move that front passenger seat up. But like you said, Dad, in terms of versatility, especially in an urban environment where you may be going into some tighter spaces, but you still want a little bit of room, this vehicle fits for that. Now, it's not ginormous by any means, right? Right. you know, going to get a full sheet of plywood in the back, but I don't think most people would expect that, right? They just want a car that's reliable, works here in Colorado, that all-wheel drive is a great feature to have, right, for all of the weather that we do have. There's a few other kind of, I guess, features on this car I really, really like as far as some of the visuals of it. It's got a full LED bar that's It makes this car really recognizable in kind of how they've done some stuff.
SPEAKER 01 :
I see that. It's a really good look. I mean, their update, it's a good-looking car. They've done a good job on it.
SPEAKER 02 :
And again, for folks who haven't driven one, Dad, or maybe they've seen these from afar and you're not sure what it is, I encourage you to check it out because, again, if you were in the market... for that extra small kind of SUV type of a vehicle. Like you said, Dad, the options are sort of endless. And I was actually talking to someone about this this past week. When it comes to a car, folks, we don't tell you a lot of times, you know, yes, this car is for you. No, there's lots of options. You have to be the judge, right? Do you like the styling? Do you like the fit? You may like what we have to say about a car. You may not like what we have to say. We're just trying to give you a very, you know, overview perspective to see if it maybe piques some interest that you have, Dad. And I think that this, again, the 2025 Volkswagen Taos will do that for a lot of people. So encourage people. Go check this vehicle out, Dad. Last thing I'll tell people real quick is fuel economy. It's got an average of 25 and 33 for an average of 28 to almost 30 miles per gallon, Dad, in this car, which is really fantastic.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
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Join Angie Austin and special guest Katie Millar-Wierig as they explore the delicate balance of parenting teenagers in a complex world. Together, they unveil the common mistakes parents make in pursuing their children's dreams and emphasize the importance of nurturing independence over control. Get inspired by Katie's personal anecdotes and evidence-based strategies that encourage a healthier parent-child relationship, equipping them for a future where they don't just survive but thrive.
SPEAKER 01 :
welcome to the good news with angie austin now with the good news here's angie
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin with the good news along with Dr. Cheryl Lentz, the academic entrepreneur. We just caught up about her summer and we know what's going on. She wants to talk a little bit about following direction. And then I've got an article about popular social habits that drain the life out of our relationships. And I think you'll be shocked at how many of these that maybe you do or, you know, people around you that do them and they're not really uplifting habits. Welcome back, Cheryl.
SPEAKER 05 :
Very nice to be here, Angie. Thank you so much. Oh, I want to know about these things. So I will be quick because I have seen a pattern. I really see this often in summer times around Easter and around Christmas. We all get so busy, busy, busy in our work that most of the time my students in particular – are lacking the ability to slow down and read directions. I don't care if you're reading a contract, if you're reading an assignment, if you're reading directions I gave you or your boss gave you or anyone gave you. The fact that most people, it's very disrespectful, and this is the key, and I'm sure you're going to tell us about the social stuff you're about to tell us about relationships. It's not that you didn't follow directions that's the problem. It's the disrespect of somebody giving you information that that you did not read, then you go back and talk to them as if your time is more important than their time because you couldn't take the time to read an email. That's shocking and a little disturbing.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, speaking of not following directions, my husband's so good at fixing things and putting things together. So we had a faucet that, well, first of all, we're building the brick walkway and we're quite a ways on that. He is, I should say. And he learned how to do it on YouTube and that's going really well. Then secondly, he'll take something out of a box like the new faucet we bought or the ceiling fan and light for my son's room, and he'll start putting it together. And he knows so much that he doesn't think he needs the directions, so they're all miffed at me because – Apparently, the ceiling is sloped and most ceiling fans are for a straight ceiling and you have to do something to modify them in order to do like a cathedral ceiling or a slope ceiling. And so they're irritated with me saying like, you should have gotten a fan that was for a slope ceiling. So then I Google it and they don't really sell specific fans for slope ceiling ceilings. You get this kit. that modifies it for the cathedral or the slope ceiling. And so then I realized I really didn't do anything wrong, that they just were, you know, putting it up and they were already like, you know, on ladders and wiring things when they realized that, oh, wait, this won't work. So I thought to myself, maybe it was them that they didn't follow the directions and look and see that, oh, we would have to modify this thing. I don't know much about ceiling fans. I just bought the one that I thought would look the coolest with a light, you know.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I get it. I have the same problem because I have three of the same fans in this house and I have three different versions, blade size and guys, I do have that cathedral ceiling and that sloped and that down pole that is needed and how they do. So I've gone through all of that in there and with three different handyman trying to get the wiring and stuff correct. Because it didn't work for three years until I found the right guy who understood all of that. Oh, yes. So I am your girl with that because I can just hear me going, oh. And I'm amazed every time I look at that fan and I'm looking at it now. It's working. And it's worked for the last year. And it's fabulous. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
And my son's room is so hot that he definitely needs a fan up there. And he has very high ceilings in his bedroom. And he's on the top floor, so, of course, heat rises. So it's been pretty hot up there. So we figured that out. We've gotten a device to fix it. And then with the faucet, I had to order two faucets. Because the first one didn't work. And then the second one didn't work. But the compilation, combining parts from each one, it worked. And we're talking like, this wasn't a cheap faucet. It was like $400. So it's like, wait, wouldn't this high-end brand of faucet, you would think that we wouldn't have to be... piecing together two different you know boxes of pieces you know parts to put it anyway so uh i don't know if that was a direction thing or not but that's done and that's not dripping anymore but i want to talk to you as well besides following directions about i love this um website it's called mark and angel and they just have a lot of common sense uh information and advice on life and this is um regarding, I don't know if I'll get through all nine, but nine popular social habits that drain the life out of our relationships. And as I looked at them, I thought, oh my goodness, the silent treatment. Don't worry, my mother-in-law doesn't live anywhere near here. She lives by you in Chicago, actually. She uses the silent treatment as punishment. I call it emotional blackmail. Like if you don't do as she wants you to do, if you don't behave in the way she wants you to behave or, you know, like if like a kid doesn't want to go to the store with her or a kid didn't, you know, want to stay overnight with her at the hotel when they were little, she'd punish them the next day. And then that would manipulate them into, you know, behaving the way she wanted them to in order to get her love back per se. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 05 :
Of course. And we call that ghosting in the text world with dating. So same kind of thing. It's somebody that instead of having an adult conversation, now sometimes they're not easy, but instead of just disappearing and giving the silent treatment because you'll have the infamous, well, you know why I'm mad at you. It's like, no, I don't. Can we have an adult conversation and clear the air and move on as opposed to both sides sticking in? And doing nothing or in the texting world and dating, they just disappear and you have no idea why. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that's happened to you a couple of times and it perplexes me. So it ends up removing the person emotionally from the relationship you have with them. So it ends up just being like kind of this void, this nothingness. And then it leaves the person who's been ghosted, as you call it, feeling pretty empty and confused. So I don't like that one. And then this one. seeking attention by complaining. My mom is the queen of this. And I would say like, how do you find that one little sliver of in a, in the perfect day, like the best day ever, as they say in the Barbie movie, the best day ever. How do you find that sliver of complaint? But I think she gets attention by complaining. And I do have a couple of friends like that, that just, that's how they get attention. And it's to me, one of the worst ways to get attention.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, nobody wants to be around a whiner. And unfortunately with their family, we seem to have this preconceived notion that we're stuck with them and we have to put up with their bad behavior. And the answer is no, we can choose not to want to be around them at all or we limit our time around there. Because when you've got someone that sucks the energy out of you, and like you said, they can find 99 out of 100 things are perfect. What are they complaining about the one thing? It's like, oh, come on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, they just got to lighten up, Francis, is what they're being like.
SPEAKER 03 :
Come on. All right, here's another one. Using subtle, and this is, okay, we right now have three teenagers in the house, and I was watching this sketch the other day, and the woman was saying that she thinks that teenage girls become kind of hateful because they... Um, God is trying to get you to let them go that, you know, God knows that you're going to grieve them going off to college or leaving the home. So if he can make them kind of hateful, then you, you miss them less. And that made me laugh. And she said, but I don't blame my daughter. You know, during that phase, she had a lot on her, like, like, you know, she had to like unload the dishwasher.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, tragic. So anyway, you had to take out the garbage too. Horrors.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I mean, that was, that was part of her joke, you know, that, Oh, she had a lot on or she had to unload the dishwasher. That's why these teens are so, so anyway, um, here it says frequent. Okay. These hateful gestures. Frequent name calling, eye rolling. My youngest daughter gives the side eye to her dad a lot. Belittling, mockery, childish threats, rude teasing. In whatever form, gestures like these are poisonous to a relationship because they convey hate. Or I would say they would convey disdain or dislike. And it's really difficult to resolve a relationship issue when you use those types of communication.
SPEAKER 05 :
I would agree. And matter of fact, this is the one thing that I have enjoyed about not having Zoom calls in some of my faculty meetings that we can only be there to watch because they cannot see the eye rolling in my face when something is said and I'm trying to be professional and I'm eye rolling. Even though we say nothing in the meetings, no one ever sees us and we can have those facial expressions that, oh, I've done that. That's a big one for me I got to be careful about. But I will like, oh, dear God, you know.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I have a feeling you and I might both be multitaskers. And multitasking while engaging with people is super rude and really makes them feel diminished and not important. And my son was dating this girl or hanging out with her, I guess I would say. And she was on her phone all the time. And he's like, why can't she put her phone down? I mean, it's really offensive. I don't know why. Oh, and she broke up with him via text message too. So, you know, she's very into the phone.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's the new normal. And I think I think that's the coward way of dealing with emotions, by the way. Yeah. And having to do it face to face because the text is easier. That's why ghosting is so easy. I don't have to bother with you. I'm not going to get involved with having to deal with the drama. I just don't talk to you. And then problem over. But what they don't realize is that the problem may be over in that moment. But that problem continues because you bring yourself to all the other future relationships. So you're going to keep pissing people off unless you change your behavior.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and I think, too, that – right, it's that ripple effect. You treat someone like that, and those ripples go out into the world, and they end up coming back at you. And then you also will, because of your poor communication skills, will reap the – not the benefit, the not benefit of someone treating you the same or in a poor manner because you're not a good communicator.
SPEAKER 05 :
We bring ourselves to work, don't we? Yeah, it's horrible when they realize going, well, it may not have been them. It may have been you. And if you're doing the same techniques and wondering, well, you know, people just don't like me really well. It's like, huh? I wonder why that is. I want to think about this.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is this is another one, Cheryl, that I get with the teenage girls deemphasizing compliments. You know, if you compliment them or fishing for more. And I don't think they're fishing per se anymore. with self-effacing remarks like teenage girls have this habit of saying so they don't seem like they're bragging or that they're full of themselves that they're like oh i'm not good at that or always mess up at that or oh i don't like this or my hair doesn't look good or blah blah blah and i don't think with my older daughter i don't think she's fishing for compliments And I've even told her during lessons when she's working with a private coach on like her volleyball that she can't be so negative and like, oh, I'm terrible at that or I just can't get that. I'm like, if you don't believe in yourself, why would the coach believe in you? And why are you being this self-effacing of these remarks that I think that these teen girls get in the habit of doing this? Oh, I look terrible today or I just threw this on at the last minute or I didn't even do my makeup or I couldn't I didn't have time to dry my hair. No, it doesn't look good. And it's like they all do it. These teenage girls. It's kind of weird to me that they I think they're trying to prove they're not full of themselves or they're not conceited by putting themselves down. But with a coach, it does not work.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, and I think that's the hard part we need to teach them is how do you be honest when you cannot sit there and have that, oh, my gosh, I just don't look too good, other than say, you know what, I really struggled with my hair, and just have an observational, not a judgmental comment. That's really the distinguishing we're trying to make. And it's not easy, but we don't want to come off as the, you know, the, oh, my God, kind of a, you know, braggadocious, I guess is the word.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
We don't have those skills.
SPEAKER 03 :
And what's wrong with just saying thank you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. You know, it's a friend of mine actually go through class once and she had to learn how to take compliments. And I said, How hard is that? She goes, Let me try it. I'm like, Oh, point taken.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it is a skill that we have to learn how to be able to do that. So I think that's definitely something worth exploring. Again, just another skill set. Let's read the directions. Let's practice the skills. Let's not keep doing the same things over and over. and expecting different results. Because it's not just teenage girls. We create those habits as teenagers, but we maintain them as adults. And that's the sad part.
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That's so true. All right, two quick ones. We only have a minute left. Holding the past against someone that has been allegedly forgiven. I think that's big as a Christian. If you've forgiven someone, you've got to let it go. And then number nine is what I was talking about, about my mother-in-law. Emotional blackmail happens when you apply an emotional penalty against someone if they don't exactly do what you want them to do. We have to... We have to stop doing that because what they're trying to do is they're changing someone's behavior against their will by removing their love from that person. So not good. All right, Dr. Cheryl Lentz. She helps you write books. She is a professor. She is a musician. She is an adventurer. How do people get in touch with you, Cheryl?
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Dr. Cheryl Lentz at gmail.com. Dr. Cheryl Lentz dot com. Easy peasy.
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Excellent. And you can find me at Angie Austin dot org. And that article is from that Web site that I use a lot that I really enjoy. Mark with a C. Mark and Angel dot com. Mark and Angel dot com. Thanks so much for listening to the good news. Thanks, Cheryl.
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You bet. Have a good one. Enjoy the eyes of summer.
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Angie Austin here with the good news, along with our friend, author Katie Millar-Wierig. Her book, Becoming a Mean Teen Parenting Machine, a step-by-step guide to transform your relationship with your teenager. And since I've got three of them and she's got plenty of kids as well, we have a lot in common. Welcome back, Katie.
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Oh, thank you. I'm so happy to be back.
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All right, you and I were discussing in the break just being a good example to our kids that in sports we run into some poor examples for kids, even parents who get into repeated issues where they're repeatedly kicked out of games, et cetera, in tournaments. Even my daughter's basketball team in particular, we see this. But you also mentioned that there is this desire, and I think this is very timely for you to say to me and hopefully some of you listening about – Holding back on that urge to get involved and try to, quote unquote, I'm using air quotes here, solve our kids' problems, because my experience is I've pretty much always made it worse. The two times that I distinctly remember trying to get involved.
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Absolutely. And here, as we were talking, it made me think of. of why we as parents over-involve ourselves anyway. So let's talk specifically sports. So a parent who becomes very involved in the game, becomes emotional, and then gets in the car with the child and feels the need to berate the child or say, you've got to do it differently, you've got to do this, instead of simply asking the child, did you have a good time? What were your goals? Did you achieve your goals? Not my goals as mom, but did you achieve your goals as an individual? And where this stems from is our own insecurity as parents. And I don't think we see it as a reflection on ourselves when that's essentially what it is. What I've found is that the parents who have had experiences in their life that have made them, helped them to fulfill that aspect of their life. Let's say, so for instance, I was, as we talked about in prior ones, I was Miss Utah on a top 10 contestant at Miss America. And I found that when my daughters would do things that would kind of go within that realm, I was totally laid back. And I was like, it's fine. I've been there. I've done that. I know what can be gained from it. I want you to have your own independent experience because it really doesn't matter to me whether you go all the way or you don't choose to do it at all. Conversely, I always wanted to be a vocalist. And I had this desire to be a really good singer, but I found myself when my daughter was taking voice lessons and really developing this talent. I was like frantic, like you cannot quit. You cannot stop. You have to do this. And I was pushing her and I was eventually projecting my goals that were unfulfilled onto her.
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Oh, wow.
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That it stressed her out. So when we look at these parents who are getting involved in sports, I bet if we asked ourselves or these parents say, did you have a fulfilling sports career? And the parent might say, no, I tore my ACL, you know, and I never got to go all the way that I wanted to, or I never, my parents couldn't afford to put me in sports or something like that. And so the parent is projecting their own personal goals onto the game and onto their child. And so if you find that you are almost frantic towards your child's extracurriculars and their development, their grades or this or that, it's this feeling of, I didn't get into Harvard, but you can. You can fulfill that for both of us. And that is very unhealthy for the child because it takes away their desire and the reasons why they're doing it. They're now doing it for mom. They're doing it for dad. Instead of you looking at your child and saying, what's your goal with basketball? What's your goal with volleyball? What's your goal with music? And they say, I just want to have fun. And you say, that's okay. I can support fun. If they say, I want to go to a Division I school and want to do this, you can say, I can support that too because this is independently yours to own, and it is not ours. It is yours because in the end, your child will be the only one on the court. Your child will be the only one there experiencing these things, and us as parents will be on the sideline, and we need to recognize that that is our role now. And it's okay to step back, and it's okay to allow them to have that experience on their terms and not our terms.
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Why do we get so nutty? Like, I just realized as you're talking, my husband, who's 6'6", is a very good basketball player, but he was shorter and like a lot of these dads were kind of buddies when he was trying out for, I think it was like maybe the ninth, eighth or ninth grade team. He was in a private like Catholic school. Anyway, to make a long story short, they didn't pick him that year. They picked like some of their friends or the assistant coaches, kids or this, that and the other. So then the coach sees my husband, like, you know, 10th, 11th, 12th grade senior year being, you know, well over six feet and says, why aren't you on our team? And he said, well, you cut me. And, you know, a lot of people know the story. I believe it's Michael Jordan who was cut off his team. And, you know, obviously, you know, he's one of the greatest ever. And I think it was Michael. And so I... that's a lesson in our family that we've talked about over and over again about not giving up. Like my son was cut from the baseball team and he tried out again. Like we don't let like embarrassment or humiliation or our ego get in the way of continuing to try for something. And I know the coach really admired him and it gets pretty competitive. And when you're in a school of 3000 kids, the senior year when there's like 10 or 12 kids on a team and they've got some of the like really amazing freshmen and sophomores and juniors on the team and They might only have four seniors on the team, you know, so it really starts getting more and more competitive out of a school that big. It's like a college, you know, like to get onto the team. So he tried again, and I know the coach admired him for going through all the winter training and months of training, and he didn't make it again. But he didn't care. Then he went out for volleyball, and he played all season on JV Volleyball. So we've just really taught them to not give up. But I do really think that what you're saying does really resonate with me and that my husband says to me when I'm not as upset at a game as he gets when he grades Faith in the car on her basketball performance and it's like an A through or whatever. And to get an A from him is very difficult. You have to have a really amazing game. So she gets a lot of B pluses and A minuses. She's completely irritated. And so he says to me when I'm like, why can't we just cheer him on? Why can't we just like encourage him? Like, why can't we just clap, you know, and say, wow, you really put some effort in there. And if you do want to criticize like her defense, can you give her like five or six compliments on what she did do right before you give her that, you know, knife in the back? about the defense or whatever it is you want to tell her about her shooting or whatever. But he's like, well, she already knows what she did, right? I just need to tell her what we should do wrong. I'm like, no, that's not the case because that's really detrimental to her self-esteem, which she said these parents that have been yelling things from the sidelines about who she should pass to and this, that, and the other, that that's affecting her right now. She's like, I just got my confidence back, mom. And then these parents are yelling things at me. And I'm like, they're irrelevant to your game. These parents that don't half of them have never even played, you know, that think that they're experts from the sidelines. But my husband then said to me, you're not invested like I am. I'm the one that takes them to the gym. I'm the one that lifts with them. I'm the one that does the cardio and the stair stepper with them. And I'm the one that gets up at 6 a.m. and goes to the basketball court every weekend so we can get in before the crowd so that she can do, you know, 200 three pointer shots or whatever every Saturday and every Sunday. And I'm the one helping out with coaching. So you're not invested like I am. And that's why I'm more critical than you are. And I'm thinking he's invested in yet another way that you just mentioned that he stopped playing when he probably could have gotten a college scholarship. He's very athletic.
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Well, and what we feel, and it's hard because, you know, today we're talking mostly about, like, the parents, not necessarily what we're doing for our kids, but having to take a look in the mirror and saying, ooh, am I maybe handling this a little unhealthily? All of these things that we're doing are coming from a place of love. And it's coming from us wanting to protect our children from something that we might have experienced that we haven't fully healed from. And so what we need to ask ourselves is, is there something that I haven't come to grips with? So maybe we had a self-esteem issue with sports and rather than heal from that and look back and say, wow, look how good it made me for this and this and this and see the good in it. We still feel like we need to write that wrong. And so we're writing it through our children. But in the process of doing that, sometimes we continue to create the problem. So with these like sports per se, we need to make sure that we look at it as what is the growth that's happening for my child? Not necessarily the result, but what's the growth and what do they need out of this? And often it is, us hindering that growth because we are trying to overprotect them from having these important life experiences that are going to make them better. I mean, could you imagine if, I mean, we have this wonderful story about Michael Jordan getting up and doing that again, but if his dad went in and, you know, offered some money or offered some stuff or did some things to get him back on the team or do whatever he needs to do, does Michael Jordan have that confidence that said, I earned this. I am here. I can do this on my own merit. Or is it, Daddy rescued me, and I still don't know if I deserve to be here. And so when we allow our kids, and that's one of the worries about parents even yelling on the sidelines, that takes away the confidence of the kid when they had a good decision that they made or a good play. The parent might say, see, I told you so. Do it my way. And in saying that, just to absolve ourselves, it also makes the child feel like I'm not capable of making these decisions. It still hurts their confidence in their own self. And they believe that, well, I'm only good because someone else has told me how to be good instead of feeling like I've earned this position. I am good. I can trust my intuition on the court. I can trust my intuition in school and in life because I've made these decisions. I've seen the consequences and this is what I want. And so especially as we talk about teenagers, it's just so important that we recognize that this is the goal of the teenage years. And as a parent, what we want is our child to be well-adjusted. We want them to have confidence. We want them to go into their adult life feeling like a million bucks. But often we undermine that without realizing we're doing it by becoming too involved in their success and their failures and wanting to fix every failure and wanting to take credit for every success. And in so doing, we take away that confidence in themselves that they are able to achieve their goals, and that's an important word, their goals on their terms. And we are essentially there for support, cheerleading, funding if needed, and, you know, driving and all these things. But in the end, it is their goal and their life, and they get to dictate how that works. I mean, not as a 13-year-old, but that's the goal is to get them to that point where they can be independent.
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Yeah, and I think that we also were talking about parents' interference in their issues and that part of what's going on right now, the way you explained it to me, is that they're not trying to be disrespectful. They're trying to become independent because within the next few years, they will need to be. And so we need to allow them to solve their issues. And I did have a mom that wanted to get in the middle of an issue. And she got really upset with me because I said, you know, I've tried this in the past and it didn't work. I know the girls will work it out. So then she and I became not friends. And guess what? The girls worked it out and they're like really good friends. So then I'm, of course, running into the mom all over the place. And so I just had to do the olive branch because I thought, well, she must feel so uncomfortable because she was upset that I didn't want to get in the middle of all of this. And she thought I wasn't being helpful when really I knew they'd make up. They like too many of the same things and have known each other way too long and are both so good at what they do that I knew they'd be friends again. And now they're really good friends. So when I bumped into the mom, I thought... Well, I have to figure out how to make this right because she obviously feels extremely uncomfortable around me. She wouldn't even look at me. And I always really liked her. So I thought, well, I got to fix this because these kids have four more years of school together and playing on teams together. So I did and we're fine again. But I just it's such a slippery slope. I know she meant well, but I have not had success in that arena. And my both of our kids are extremely smart, too. They're like honor students. So I thought they could do a better job of fixing it than we could.
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Well, and if the goal as a parent is to build confidence and independence in your teenager, then we have to allow them the space to be able to do that. And the confidence that your daughter built in repairing a relationship knows that when something else happens like that in the future, she has the skills and the confidence to know, I can manage this and I can navigate it. And one of the best things I've heard of parenting, I'll have to bring up the person who said, I can't remember. But he said, we want our children to actually want us and not need us. So if you don't want your 30-year-old kid to need you, you want them to want to talk to you because they enjoy talking to mom because they need this, not because they need you and they can't function without you. And if we've created a dependency on ourselves where our children need us for the rest of their lives, then we haven't done our job.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, you're right. That is such great advice. Katie, give us your website.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, it is. You can see me at Instagram at The Balanced Mind Project or visit us at anxietyhealingprogram.com.
SPEAKER 03 :
Always the best advice, my friend. Thank you. God bless.
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Thank you. See you guys soon.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stay with me. It won't be long, only about 30 minutes of inspiration, some motivation, some education, and all of it done without any type of manipulation. That means we're not going to con you. We're not going to ask you for money. We're not going to try to sell you anything. We're not going to ask you to join up, fess it up, or give it up. We just ask you to listen up. Listen as I try to do my very best to verify and identify the plan of God for your life. If I'm able to do that, and then you could orient and adjust to the plan if you'd like to do so. It's your life. You got one shot at it. No redos. So I pray you're listening. I pray you'll pay good attention. This morning, I'd like to welcome several new stations to our Flatline broadcast. If you're a regular listener, you might remember that last year, back in December of 2024, we dropped some stations where we had very little listener response. I mean, we have over 100 stations, and we like to keep up with where we're hearing from people. And if we're not hearing from anybody after being in an area for a year, maybe sometimes as much as two years, then we'll change that station and go to another location. So I want to announce to you that we are now expanding again the shows based on why we took a look around and see where it is we can go. So we're going to expand these shows based again while we look for those that are anxious to understand the plan of God for their lives. You know, I'm a fisherman, and I consider this outreach to be a fishing expedition. I'm always casting the truth out and always try to get listeners to wait and see if we get a response or get a bite. Remember, we're not asking you for money. We're not trying to sell anything. What we're looking for is positive volition. Hopefully, what we can teach you will give you a degree of confidence that we are legitimate people if you see we're not trying to con you, if you realize we're not trying to trick you into doing something for our advantage. So sit back and relax and listen. as I try to verify and identify God's plan for your life. That's my prayer for you today, that you'll be joining our show and that you'll start listening every Sunday and that you'll take advantage of the many materials that we offer through our website, rickhughesministries.org. The show you're listening to today is 1,033. That's 1,033 Sundays we've been on the air all across the United States of America trying to represent our Lord Jesus Christ and lift up God's Word. So, I want to talk to you today about freedom. This morning, let's talk about freedom, F-R-E-D-O-M, freedom. As Americans, we love freedom and we cherish our freedom. Many men and women have given their lives to defend this freedom since this great nation was founded. Many prayers have been offered to God requesting the divine assistance in preserving our freedom. You might not know this, but since our new president got in office, we're paying attention to the military, trying to get it back on track, get it away from the agenda that it's been on the last few years. But the United States Army Special Forces has a prayer that they offer to God. It's a prayer for freedom. I'm gonna read you this prayer. And remember, many prayers are being offered to God requesting divine assistance and preserving freedom. So this is the prayer the special forces, the United States Army Special Forces, this is the prayer they offer. Almighty God, who art the author of liberty and the champion of the oppressed, hear our prayer. We, the men of the Special Forces, acknowledge and depend upon thee in the preservation of human freedom. Go with us as we seek to defend the defenseless and to free the enslaved. May we ever remember that our nation whose oath in God we trust, quote, expects that we shall acquit ourselves with honor, that we may never bring shame upon our faith, upon our families, or our fellow soldiers. Grant us wisdom from thy mind, and courage from thy heart, and protection from thy hand. It is for thee that we do battle, and for thee belongs the victor's crown. For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever. I love that. What a phenomenal prayer the Special Forces have. That's their special private prayer. You know, the Bible talks about freedom in a lot of different areas. Listen to these verses that I give you. This is from Galatians chapter five, verse one. Stand fast, therefore, in the liberty with which Christ has made us free. There we go, freedom. Free from the bondage of organized religion. That's one thing. This is the Lord Jesus Christ. And Paul wrote back and said, stand fast in that liberty. Christ made you free. You don't have to be under organized religion anymore. You don't have to be following the rituals anymore. There's now grace. It's a wonderful way to have a relationship with God based on grace. It's not based on your baptism. It's not based on your circumcision. It's not based on the adherence to the laws of Moses. Grace is the ultimate expression of freedom in Christ Jesus. Grace is freedom, freedom from trying to earn your way to heaven, freedom from worry. A lot of things we're going to show you this morning, but remember Ephesians 2, 8, and 9 says, for by grace are you saved through faith. Faith and freedom go hand in hand. Our Lord Jesus Christ himself proclaimed grace in knowing him. He said in John 8, 32, and you shall know the truth, and the truth will make you what? Free. You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. The question is, what freedom comes from knowing the truth? And what is the truth that Jesus, our Lord, is actually speaking about? In John 14, 6, here it is. This is what he's talking about. Jesus said to him, I am the way and the truth and the life, and no man can come unto the Father but by me. It's now obvious that Christ was referring to himself, and he was saying there's only one way to come to God, and that's through him, Jesus, the anointed Son of God, and that's the grace blessing that God gives you free, freely, freely. Once any individual believes in Christ and receives him as Savior, there's an amazing thing that happens. John 16, 13, the Lord Jesus Christ told them, when he, the Holy Spirit, comes, called the Spirit of truth, he will guide you into all truth, for he shall not speak of himself, but whatever he shall hear, that shall he speak, and he will show you things that are to come. And so remember this, that the Holy Spirit is your guide through life, taking the scriptures, the word of God. This promise gives assurance to you and to me that we never have to be deceived by Satan again, just as Eve was deceived in the garden. We don't have to be deceived. Why? Because John 16, 13, he will guide you into all truth. He will show you what's to come. So let me make a few principles here. The first freedom you receive when you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior is you are now free from the penalty of sin and death. In Romans 6.23, for the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God through freedom now, grace is freedom, the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. That's Romans 6.23. You and I are the guilty ones because we're the sinners, not him. But as a great act of obedience to the Father and his love for others, he took our place on that cross. Romans tells us that in 5.8, but God committed his love towards us and that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Because of this act of love, you and I are now given the honor of possessing eternal life. John 3.16, you've heard it before, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. You are now free if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and receive him as your savior. You're free from the penalty of sin and death. And this freedom is provided by grace. Grace is not a license to do what you want to do, but rather it's an opportunity to replicate God's love through our behavior with other believers. Galatians 5.13, For you were called to freedom, brother, there it is, but do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. Again, I repeat, the freedom we have been provided by grace is not a license to do what you want to do, but an opportunity to replicate the love of God. So there's another freedom also, and that freedom is given in Christ Jesus, and that's freedom from the control of your sin nature. Once you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you are given the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit offers you freedom from the slavery to sin nature domination. We see in Ephesians 1.13, in whom after you trusted, you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom after you believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. Now, you actually have a choice in your sin nature. You don't have to obey it any longer. Galatians 5.16, this I say then, walk in the Spirit, and you won't have to fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh fights against the spirit, and the spirit fights against the flesh, and these are contrary one to the other so that you cannot do the things that you would. This is why you feel like two different people sometimes. Every believer has this battle going on with inside of them. The flesh wants to control your life as it always did before you accepted Christ. But now the Holy Spirit says, I want to control your life. Let me run the show. And so you have to make a volitional decision. Are you going to say no to sin and yes to the Holy Spirit? Prior to your salvation, you didn't have a choice. You were under sin nature control 24-7. That does not mean you never did anything good, you never did anything helpful. I'm not saying that. It simply means you could not manufacture enough good deeds to equal God's righteousness. In Romans 3.10, there are none that are righteous, no, not even one. Notice Isaiah 64, six. All of us have become like one who is unclean, and our righteousness acts are like filthy rags to God. So you can try to impress God with not smoking, not drinking, not cussing, not dancing, whatever you want to say. God's not impressed. What he is impressed with is the righteousness of Jesus Christ credited to your account. So being free from slavery to the oaths in nature is a wonderful thing. And this is how you overcome lifelong flaws in your life that you chose to hesitate in. Because now that you're a believer, now that the Holy Spirit lives in you, sustains you, and strengthens you, you can walk in the Spirit and not fulfill the lust of the flesh. This means you no longer have to commit those sins that used to dominate your life. It means you now have a choice. And when you do fail, when you do mess up, when you do commit that sin that you wish you hadn't have done, You can always use problem-solving device number one, which is rebound, which means to recover from that sin by problem-solving device number one, found in 1 John 1.9. If we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us and purify us from all of our wrongdoing. So staying filled with the Holy Spirit is the key to overcoming the lust of the flesh. And we are actually mandated in Ephesians 5.18, don't be drunk with wine, which leads to accessory debauchery, but instead be filled with the Spirit. That's a command. That's not a request. It's a command. There's another freedom the believer possesses, and that's freedom from worry about our daily needs. Notice Matthew 6, 25 through 34, rather long passage I want to read to you, but it gets the point across. You are free from worry. Matthew 6, 25, the Lord Jesus Christ said, therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life. If you're sitting around worrying about your life, you're sinning, I promise you. You don't have to do that. If you're a child of God, there's no reason to worry. I read on. Worry about what you're going to eat, worrying about what you're going to drink, worrying about what you're going to wear. The Lord said, is not life more than food and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air. They do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than a bird? Can any one of you by worrying add one single hour to your life? No, so why do you worry, the Bible says, about clothes? Look at the flowers in the field and how they grow. They don't labor or spin, yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all of his splendor was dressed like one of these. So if that's how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not even much more clothe you? So don't worry. Freedom from worry. What a wonderful thing. Lord Jesus Christ made that clear. Don't worry. Say, what do we eat? What are we going to drink? Oh, what are we going to wear? You can just hear it. Oh, my goodness. For the pagans run after all these things, the Lord said. Your heavenly Father knows what you need, so seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and then all of these things will be given to you as well. Therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. So you're free from worry, free from the lake of fire, free from eternal damnation, free from control of your sin nature, free from worry. This promise is a divine provision provided by God himself. And I promise you, I assure you, he will never throw you under the bus. So when you say, what does that mean, throw me under the bus? That's slang for turning his back on you. In Psalm 55, 22, the Bible clearly tells us, cast your cares on the Lord and he will sustain you. He will never let the righteous be shaken. You are considered the righteous. You are, since why are you righteous? Well, you have the righteousness of Christ, and it's been credited to your account. If you take the letter R and put R plus or R minus, maybe that'll help you understand it. As good as you are, as good as you can be, all the good deeds you can do is the letter R with a minus by it, minus righteousness. You cannot manufacture equal righteousness with God. But if you take the letter R and put a plus by it, that's plus righteousness. And that's the righteousness of Jesus Christ given to us. In 2 Corinthians 5, 21, he who knew no sin was made sin for us so that we might be made the righteousness of God through him. That's how you get plus R. Free, you don't earn it, you don't buy it, you don't deserve it, it's free. The gift of eternal life is free. In Isaiah 41 10, so do not fray, I'm with you. Do not be dismayed, I am your God. I will strengthen you and I will help you and I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Wonderful freedom in Christ Jesus. freedom that we have. So let's recall some of this freedom again from Christ Jesus. One, we're free from eternal damnation, the lake of fire. You're free, your penalty has been paid. Christ stepped up to it and he paid the price for your freedom. He bought your freedom on the cross. Two, you're free from sin nature domination. Never again do you have to submit to the sin nature and let it control your life. Now you actually have a choice. Now you can decide what you want to do. The Bible clearly tells you don't quench the spirit. Don't grieve the spirit. That means when you use your volition to go negative to God's plan, you're making a terrible mistake. You don't have to live like that. You can let the Holy Spirit guide you and lead you through the truth. That's the Bible and the Lord Jesus Christ. Once you accept Christ as your Savior, all truth is found in the Scripture. So when you have the Scripture and you have a well-qualified pastor teach it to you, then you don't have to worry about what you're doing, whether it's right or wrong, because it's there. You can see it in the Word. So we could also be free from worry, as I showed you, free from stress, free from being concerned about the details of life. What am I going to eat? What am I going to wear? What am I going to drink? Your Heavenly Father promised He would provide all of that for you. And finally, you are given the freedom to choose. You can choose who you wish to follow. In the Old Testament, in the book of Joshua, as he approached the end of his life, he had taken over command from Moses and he had gone into the Promised Land and led the people into the Promised Land, starting with the Battle of Jericho. And now Joshua's coming up to the end of his life and this is the challenge that he tells his family. And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, And you choose, there it is, you choose for yourself this day who you want to serve, whether the gods of your father, whether the god that your father served that were on the other side of the Jordan River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose, what? The gods of the Amorites, in whose land you now dwell. And here it is, listen carefully. but as for me in my house we will serve the lord that's a choice that's a choice you know god would never bully you into serving him he's not going to force you to do it if your eternal destiny is secure you can go on down the my way highway Just whatever you want to do, go do it. Until your time on earth runs out. I did a message called TOE, T-O-E, time on earth. All of us are granted a certain amount of time by the grace of God. So you accepted Christ. I've seen this happen. I've seen people get saved. They got on fire for the Lord for a couple of months and then they just finally slid back into their old lifestyle. Quit going to church, quit studying their Bible, quit praying, kind of got caught up in the process of life. You can do that. Whatever you want to do, it's your choice. But why? Why on earth would you choose to reject all the divine advantages that God offers you? Are you crazy? The Word of God gives you insight, understanding. The Word of Proverbs 2 talks about this, insight and understanding and discernment. What a protective shield around your life, being able to know if you're making the right decision or the wrong decision. It's no longer flip a coin. It's no longer, oh, I hope I'm doing the right thing. Now you can see it from the Scripture, and God the Holy Spirit will lead you to the answer and tell you this is what you do. You may fall in love, you may want to get married. May be a wonderful person and you're a Christian and maybe that person's not. You say, oh, we'll work it out, it's okay, we'll get together. The Bible says don't marry unbelievers. There's your answer right there. Don't do it. You think God's got something against you, you think he wants to keep you from having a good time, stop you from being in love? No. I mean, God's got something better. The problem is you don't want to wait. You're not willing to wait for the better. You want to get it done now. That's where you mess up. You're not willing to wait on the Lord. So what is the reason that you neglect your spiritual life? Why do you neglect to serve a risen Savior? Are you just too busy hustling through the day that you cannot stop? You don't have time for God any longer? You don't have time for what God has done for you? Are you a Christian? Have you believed in the Lord Jesus Christ? Have you accepted Him as your Savior? Maybe what the Lord Jesus Christ said in Revelation 3 refers to you. Has your spiritual life grown cold? When I accepted Christ, the first night I went to bed, it was an unbelievable, peaceful night. When I got up the next day, it was peaceful. Every day I found out I had to make decisions. I had to learn the Bible. I was given a Bible. I had to read the Bible. I had to learn. The first thing I read was the book of John, and I thought, gee, how did God know all of this stuff about me? A year or two into the Christian life, again, those struggles, those choices I had to make. Am I gonna do what the Bible says or am I gonna do what I wanna do? So many people do what they wanna do or they try to blend them together. I'll do what I wanna do and add God and try to give him the glory while I do what I wanna do. Crazy. In Revelation 3, 15 through 16, this is what the Lord Jesus Christ said. I know your works. I know that you're neither hot and you're not cold. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then because you're a lukewarm, not cold and not hot, I will spew you out of my mouth. That means to vomit you out of his mouth. In Matthew 8, 18, we find Jesus boarding a boat in order to cross the Sea of Galilee because of a great crowd that followed him when he went to Peter's home to heal Peter's mother-in-law. It was getting dark late in the evening and thousands of people were pushing the Lord Jesus Christ And several followers made excuses. And the Lord says, let's get in the boat and let's go to the other side of the Sea of Galilee. Let's leave this crowd. And several followers made excuses so they would not have to get in the boat with him. What's your excuse? Why are you not willing to get in the boat with the Lord Jesus Christ? He offers you freedom. He offers you a wonderful life. He offers you protection and encouragement and freedom from worry, freedom from sin nature control. All the advantages the Lord Jesus Christ offers you, the scriptures offer you, and you won't even take time to do it any longer. You don't have time for God in your life anymore. You're too busy running around, too busy doing whatever you want to do on Sunday morning. I pray you're listening. I pray you're paying attention. I gave a message not long ago on a well-qualified pastor and why you must have him. My prayer is that you will find that pastor, that you will do whatever it takes to get under his authority and learn the scriptures on a daily basis so that you can truly be free, free to live life the way God wants you to live it. free to follow God's plan. But it's your choice. You have volition. That's one thing about God. He didn't make you a little robot. He gave you a choice. He gave you freedom. You can do whatever you want to do. Go down to my way, highway, or I will serve you, Father. What's your choice? What's the choice that you're going to make today? Because the freedom is there if you want it. I hope you're listening. I hope you're paying attention. It's my prayer that I'll be able to come back next week, same time, same place. If you have questions, you can go to our website, rickhughesministries.org. You can always write us from there. You can order the books from there. We'll be glad to do anything we can to give you assistance and help, and even provide you the transcripts of these messages. So thank you for listening. I pray you'll come back next week, same time. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Join us in this rollercoaster of an episode, where everyday absurdities meet headline-making dramas. We unfold a series of eyebrow-raising tales featuring Florida's most infamous residents and their bold escapades. From high-stakes check fraud to fast-food confrontations, these stories will captivate your imagination. Plus, we delve into the heated online exchange between gymnastics star Simone Biles and swimmer Riley Gaines, exploring the implications for the future of women's sports.
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So I think if you're trying to pass off a bad check, maybe don't go for a high dollar amount, like right off the bat. I don't want to give anybody advice for breaking the law, but, you know, a Florida man got charged with trying to cash a fake $5,000 check. He's back in court. And he also had a counterfeit state ID. And he wanted to cash this fake $5,000 check. Billy Pierre, 21 years old of Homestead, Florida. He was arraigned just a few days ago, given $200,000 bond. But yeah, they said that they immediately knew that it was a fake. I mean, first off, $5,000. I mean, you know, it's like, I think it would be people are going to pay more attention, obviously, if it's a higher dollar amount, right, than if it was like maybe $100. But he really wanted to go hard, man. He wanted to go all the way. A man assaulted a Chick-fil-A worker after trying to refill a cup that he brought from home. Okay, you can't just bring a cup from home and go into a fast food restaurant and try to get free soda, free drinks. So he's facing, but it's a felony burglary and assault charge. He forced his way into the employee area of Chick-fil-A to fill the beverage cup that he brought from home. It was in Coral Springs. And they said the guy, Ralph Maurice Auguste of Coral Springs, he carried a cup that he had not, it was a Chick-fil-A cup, but it was an old one. And when they said, no, you can't use that cup and try to take and throw it away, he became irate and physically abusive. He pushed the employee. And it was a woman. He pushed her and then trespassed into the restricted area and then tried to flee the scene. But, of course, they caught him. So now he's in a lot of trouble because he was an idiot. Let's see this. Oh, we had an impersonation. Another Florida impersonation police. You can't do that. You can't fake being a police officer. 59 year old Mario Allende was charged with falsely impersonating a police officer, pulling someone home. He told pulling someone over. He said he was a federal agent. And that the person's driving, he didn't like how that person was driving. So they were going to go to federal prison because he did not like their driving. They said that the witnesses said that he had a car with red and blue lights. He had a black FBI hat and a black wallet with a card that had the FBI insignia on it. And after the incident, the victim flagged down an officer stating that, I think I just got pulled over by a fake cop. And so they got him and they saw him at that exact intersection. And when he saw the cops, he took off his red and blue lights and tried to put them in the backseat of his car. Yeah, he got arrested totally. We have our third hour on the way. Go nowhere. We got more in store. Stick with us. Our partners, it's a Florida company. Our friends over at Kel-Tec, the new Gen 3 Sub 2K, one of their newest innovations from the genius mind of George Kellgren. They raised the bar again. And the Sub 2K, this is the carbine that folds in half. And now it comes in 10 millimeter. innovation with a twist so it's a folding carbine available in a variety of calibers now even more versatile with the new 10 millimeter chambering single twist and fold motion of that rotating forend it folds quickly in half optics and all and just as quickly deploys zeroed and ready to rock and when it folds down at 16 and a half inches easy storage and transport it takes glock mags you also have an internal buffer for softer recoil lighter five pound trigger pull integrated m lock you got the rails up top for accessories and it's ideal for everything backpacking camping church security, home defense, whatever it is, and everything right here in the U.S. of A. All the parts, all the labor, all the materials made in America by Americans with American stuff. That's Kel-Tec. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com, Innovation Performance Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Case in point with the cultural stuff. I want to shift gears somewhat here. I don't know if you saw this over the weekend. So Simone Biles, who she's I think they consider her one of the greatest gymnasts of all time, right? I think they do. Yeah. I was trying to remember who I think like of our generation, they consider her to be like one of the one of the greatest. So Simone Biles went after I'm pulling this tweet up. Riley Gaines out of like nowhere. Riley Gaines wasn't talking to anybody. She was just making a comment about a trans athlete, a man competing as a woman. Who decided who ended up, you know, beating out all of these other women, obviously. And she went after Riley Gaines made mention of it. And then out of nowhere, Simone Biles gets gets involved, which is kind of trashy. And she went after Riley Gaines for it. And like tried to insult her. She went on a tear. It was like all weekend, wasn't it? It's like all weekend. She made fun of her height. She goes, bully someone your own size, which would ironically be a male. Riley Gaines is like five, four, five, five. She's only a few inches taller than Simone Biles. Okay, so that doesn't make sense. She retweeted and said, you're sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive or creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category in all sports, but instead you bully them. One thing is for sure, no one in sports is safe with you around. Simone Biles is a thug. This is thug behavior. Shame on you. She's a fake feminist. She's somebody who, and she seems like a handful, like she seems like a diva and she constantly complains. And she was always like, I'm bullied, mental health, blah, blah, blah. She didn't want to do press. You know, you're an Olympian, whatever. She has a silver spoon. She's wanted for nothing in life. She's had a completely, you know, fairytale existence. And she's mad because Riley Gaines, Riley Gaines was robbed of a spot on the podium by a man who is bigger than her, has greater muscle strength than she does, is faster, who went through puberty as a man who competed in swimming as a man until when until like, you know, just a few years ago. So, yeah, she would have been tops in her category were it not for the man that knocked her down a peg. And if Simone Biles had to compete against a male gymnast, guess what? Simone Biles is going to lose. But there I honestly feel like there are some women. who advocate for the trans stuff, like Simone Biles, who see younger talent coming up after them. And I feel like they don't want their crown to get tarnished or they don't want to be outshined by younger talent. So they're trying to pull that ladder up. They don't want other women to actually be able to share their space. So they're trying to force them to compete with men to make that not possible. I honestly think that's a motivation, one of the motivations here. Does that make sense? That's how women think. Women are weird.
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Yeah, I don't get that.
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Yeah, women can be catty. Like a lot of women, especially if they're on the left, they really believe in the scarcity of opportunity. Although some on the right believe that. I mean, there's stories out there. But they believe in the scarcity of opportunity. And I really get the sense that Simone Biles is just like, I don't want anyone else to outshine me ever. So we need to have men integrated in women's sports now. Because that way then it's all men and she doesn't have to ever share the title with another female. She doesn't ever have to compete with another female for sports endorse or for endorsements. Right. She doesn't have to worry about all of that. She can mean she can keep, you know, this title of being one of the greats so long as no one comes up underneath her to outshine her. Honestly, I really feel like that's what a lot of it is. A lot of these women are too insecure and they don't have the confidence. And I feel like they don't really want to maintain what they have anymore. So they just want to keep other women from coming up. That makes sense if you think about it. And given the way that her personality seems, I totally buy that. And that's sad, right? That's sad that there are some women out there who are so threatened and who are so weak that they feel like they're going to be diminished because younger talent comes up. It's like you can't just revel in the fact that you helped pave the way and you helped make this happen and you helped elevate women's sports. You feel like you've got to gatekeep by taking that letter away and preventing other women from ascending also. That's anti-woman. And they lie to themselves and they pretend that it's actually pro-trans when they're using trans as a tool to gatekeep and keep others from outshining them. You see how that works? They pretend to be trans adjacent, but they're really not. They're using it as a tool to protect and gatekeep so that they don't have to give up an endorsement or lose anything on their own. Interesting. We're on to you. As we move, our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. They make it so easy to get the medications that you need. No gatekeeping by Big Pharma, no gatekeeping from the government as well. And there was an executive order signed on May 12th to lower prescription costs so we can stop paying more than other countries. And you deserve medicines for fair prices without totally egregious markups. And All Family Pharmacy is offering a summer sale right now, 20% off of your entire order. And that's going to give you a little extra breathing room. And their prices are already affordable. First off, right now through June, they're offering 20% off site-wide. No insurance is required. I mean, they have licensed doctors in all 50 states. You get fast shipping right to your door. You can get your stuff in as little as two to three days online. If you're in a pinch, which I've absolutely done that, and they have come in clutch. And you can get everything that you need. Your day-to-day medications, antibiotics, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, everything. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and enjoy 20% off using promo code Dana20. Do not wait for permission to protect yourself and your family. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana20 to save 20%.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Today in sports ball, Aaron Rodgers has confirmed Pittsburgh Steelers' move in a $20 million contract announcement. I think I'm going to play football. Because you can make a lot of millions of dollars with football. And imagine it. I could play football. Know nothing about it. Just want my uniform to be cute. And I want, like, really good leather for my football. I can do anything, girl. I can do anything. If a man can tuck and say he's a chick, then surely I can do this. He was let go by the Jets at the end of last season. He was considered in retirement. How old is he? How old is Aaron Rodgers?
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41.
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Oh. So, now he's not. He's going to the Steelers. So, I guess. Is that considered old for football or no? 41, yeah. Oh, is it? Well, Tom Brady's like in his 40s. That's Tom Brady, though. Okay, yeah. I don't know. Um... Oh my gosh, no. Why are we doing this? Madonna is apparently going to release, I don't care, a new Ray of Light remix album. Oh boy. Ray of Light. Oh my gosh. Too rare. Uh-oh. Doomsday Fish. So these Doomsday Fish, whenever they wash to shore, they're called oarfish. It's supposed to be like a sign of something bad happening and it's linked to natural disasters. They look like fake things. They don't even look real. But they had two separate incidents, one in India and one in Tasmania, where they washed up on the beaches and everybody's like, oh, my gosh, it's a harbinger of disaster. They are crazy looking silvery fish and they kind of look like wild sea serpents. They're huge. But when they they're from the deep and when they wash up on the shore, it means bad. I don't know. Is it mean like was there some kind of underground disturbance? Is a kaiju going to come out? Trump and Musk are fighting. That's why the oarfish are floating to shore. So manga had predicted a great disaster in July 2025. So this is, you know, Japanese graphic novels, manga, and they have different genres. Some of them are for kids. Some of them are like adult graphic novels. But apparently this guy's called Japan's answer to Nostradamus says a bad thing is going to happen on July 5th. Maybe it's a mega quake or a fight. Stick with us. Now, Greta Thunberg was on her selfie flotilla. audio somebody thirty-two she was uh... intercepted and apparently a lot of the so-called aid that they were going to deliver to gaza they actually consumed themselves according to reports listen to this how did you thirty-two my name is gita timber and i am from sweden if you see this video we have been intercepted and kidnapped in international waters by the israeli occupational forces or forces that support israel
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I urge all my friends, family and comrades to put pressure on the Swedish government to release me and the others as soon as possible.
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She's 22 years old. She is a grown adult woman and people still like coddle her like she's a 10 year old. I mean, I blame her parents for this. Honestly, she's like, we've been kidnapped. Guess what? When you try to, hey, put it like this. We're on a flotilla. We're on a bunch of unicorn rafts and we're, Kane, we're going, we're going to illegally enter Cabo. How well do you think that's going to go?
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Yeah, we'll probably get shot.
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Well, I mean, you'd be intercepted for sure.
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Oh, no doubt.
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When you're taken into custody after trying to illegally enter a specific area, especially if it's in a war zone, are you being kidnapped or is that just a consequence of you being a dip redacted?
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It's that last part you said there.
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That's what I think. That's what I think. So she was on her selfie flotilla. And apparently that's like all they were doing. They were taking a bunch of, I don't know, what was their purpose? They thought they were trying to deliver aid. Apparently they had two tons of aid. Israel is the only nation on earth that's expected to give aid to the people trying to murder it. explain that one to me remember this anytime another see this is why i'm like you know you have countries like ukraine and everyone else like wait a minute oh now we're supposed to care what's different now we're supposed oh you're oh oh you're being targeted oh but it's we're what's the situational difference here they were on their selfie yacht and uh apparently they're also now going to be forced to watch all of the video footage from october 7th I think that's genius. And I think that they should. They all showed up, these little activists with their little picnic blankets on. And they had 12 activists and an Irish actor. I don't know who this Irish actor is. And they were intercepted by the IDF. And the IDF was like very, you know, they brought them to shore. They brought them to Israel. And I... I think it would be very bad for them. I think that they think that they want to go to Gaza. And then when they get to Gaza, what they think and then what the reality is are probably two very different things came. Yeah. But they pretended that everybody knew where they were the whole time. These people are such drama queens. They were like, oh, the seas are rough. They weren't. Oh, we lost radio contact. Everybody knew where they were. But they were still able to take photos of themselves and, like, upload it to the Internet. I don't get it. And then the IDF, they boarded and they fed them. They gave them sandwiches. Jeez. They did all this stuff for them. These brats, these absolute brats. It's so embarrassing. That is so embarrassing for these activists. And so now they their Freedom Flotilla was detained and they're all going to be deported back to their home countries. And they're forced to watch Hamas's video footage of the October 7th terror atrocities, the genocide. And they I mean, it was, you know, they called it the selfie. And they are their celebrity activists. They said that any of the remaining aid that the celebrities didn't consume, because they apparently ate through a lot of it, because they had a little party. I'm not kidding. Apparently they ate through a lot of it. How embarrassing for you. They said that they would actually distribute it through their actual humanitarian channels. That's so there's a picture of Greta Thunberg of their they're handing her a sandwich. Oh, my gosh. She looks like she's well fed. I don't think that they need to worry. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just saying she doesn't look like she's, you know, starving. Like what? She doesn't look like the prisoners that Hamas kept. She doesn't look like the Israeli prisoners that Hamas had in custody for over a year. I mean, it's so cringe. It's so cringe.
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In today's episode, we dissect the chaos unfolding across Los Angeles. Are these truly peaceful protests, or is there more behind the mayhem? We dive into the narratives of political leaders like Mayor Karen Bass, who argue that the administration's stance complicates the city's peacekeeping efforts. Eyewitness accounts, soundbites, and firsthand testimonies paint a vivid picture of the immigration issues at the core of the unrest. Tune in to hear about the impact of federal actions and the divisive depiction of law enforcement as we examine the struggles of maintaining order amidst conflicting political narratives.
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We agree that if you're being violent, you should be arrested. You should be prosecuted. There is no disagreement on that. I think that's a effort that we can all say. But this is not what's happening. We are having an administration that's targeting peaceful protests, people that are there to protest. The president is sending the National Guard because he doesn't like the scenes. He doesn't like the scenes of people peacefully protesting. And we know that California law enforcement, local law enforcement, they're there to protect the public. They're there to protect and have public safety. And that's what they're there to do. Now, when people turn on law enforcement is when you get that response. So we want to make sure that people continue to speak up, that people show up, that people are peaceful about the situation.
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and um that's what we're continuing to tell people peaceful protests they said super peaceful i mean it sounds peaceful right look at all that peace behind her i mean there's so much peace happening in the video behind her it is i mean i don't even understand how anybody could be upset over all of the peace that has been had in los angeles and that's what they always say you know when the left goes crazy no no no don't be upset it's mostly peaceful though And I'm trying to figure out what would it be like if that's, you know, mostly peaceful? What would not peaceful look like? I mean, the stories that are coming out of L.A. are pretty amazing. And it all has to do, obviously, with immigration. People are these leftists are. They're super upset because law and order is finally being had. And we've got like a huge amount of these these audio soundbites where they say that these well, like, you know, oh, they blame Trump also. They also blame Trump. That's the that's the other thing. Of course, it's Trump's fault. Listen to the mayor, Karen Bass, right now. Listen to this. I'm sorry. This is eight. Cut eight.
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what we're seeing in la is chaos caused by the administration people should exercise their right to protest that's their first amendment right but people should also exercise that right peacefully We do not want to play into the administration's hands. We're working with officials. We're organizing resources. But what we're seeing in Los Angeles is chaos that is provoked by the administration.
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How is it provoked by the administration is what I would like to know. I mean, how is that? How is it there? You know, I'm trying. I get it that they're Democrats, but I also don't understand why. This is being blamed on POTUS. Now, first off, if you're joining us, Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this weird Monday because what I had read that was happening, and this is what I read. Kane, tell me if it's different for you, is that the... Border Patrol, Customs agents, Border Patrol, ICE, they had ICE agents. I'm pulling up this one story that I have that I accidentally closed out right when we started. Forgive me. So the way that I understand it, they had ICE agents that set up a command post near a Home Depot. And then everybody lost their minds. Isn't that kind of like the left, not everybody, but the left lost their minds.
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That's kind of what I... It was a whole warehouse and highway away from the Home Depot, but okay.
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And well, yeah, it was near a Home Depot. The way that it was spun is that ICE agents were raiding the Home Depot. I mean, I I don't know. I mean, there was there's also I got I have like more audio for you, too, because there's one video where Karen Bass was on CNN. And she was on with Wolf Blitzer. And I think this was this morning. And as she was on with them, and she was saying that the National Guard was not needed and it's ridiculous. There's literally a car literally in the background that blew up. I mean, they are showing her and she's talking to Wolf Blitzer on CNN. And as that's happening, there is a car that literally blows up. Watch this. This is insane. Juan's got the B-roll.
SPEAKER 04 :
There she is. Karen Bass. Hi, Mayor. Thank you so much for joining us. Hi. So what are you and your police force? I know how busy you are preparing for the hours ahead. What are you expecting on that front? She's like,
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I just have to say that if you dial back time and go to Friday, if immigration raids had not happened here, we would not have the disorder that went on last night. I will tell you that it is peaceful now, but we do not know where and when the next raids will be. That is the concern, because people in the city have a rapid response network. If they see ICE, they go out and they protest. And so it's just a recipe for pandemonium that is completely unnecessary. Nothing was happening here. Los Angeles was peaceful before Friday. When we find out when and where the other raids are going to happen, that will determine how the police respond.
SPEAKER 19 :
So the other thing that I understand, now the Waymos, aren't those... Those are like Ubers, but they drive themselves, right? The Waymo cars. I think those are like only in California. Now, the reason I bring this up is because these protests, these rioters literally began calling Waymo cars. And then when the Waymo cars, the little Waymo cars would show up, they would blow them up and set them on fire. I've never felt bad for a piece of machinery before. Imagine you're the little Waymo car and you're pulling up because a writer called you and you're like, Hello, I'm here to take you to, oh. And then they set you on fire. I've never felt bad for an inanimate object before, Cain, but I do now. I was like, oh, those little Waymo cars.
SPEAKER 11 :
Are there no victims left over by the left?
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, I'm kind of thinking that way. But she was saying, oh, it's just peaceful. It wasn't peaceful. They were looting stores. I mean, you know, loot stores. including foot lockers for social justice or whatever i mean you know you got to have a cool pair of sneaks i guess to go out and burn down the waymo cars this has been going on what what are we like on day three now i think are we on day three is it day four Day three or day four, one of the two. Hell, I don't know. They've been rioting this whole time. Nobody knows. Nobody knows anymore. But it's been quite a bit, a little bit of time. And it's been very violent. There's been a lot of fires. There have been people assaulted. They've assaulted cops. I mean, this has been going on for quite some time. And so, yeah, they were refusing to get anybody involved. That's what happens. There are people and business owners that are in Los Angeles that were begging, begging city leadership, please get involved. Please do something. Please help us. Please help us. And then you you've had this insane destruction. And then the city leadership is like, no, we're just there's nothing to see here. It's mostly peaceful. And then you have wrapped up in this, you have the little Hamas picnic blanket wearing terrorist sympathizers. I mean, you got Waymo's cop car set on fire in the middle of the street. What I don't get, the people who walk around with the Mexican flag, I mean, I guess it's pretty customary to profess your love for a country you absolutely refuse to live in. Who knew, Cain? I love Mexico so much, but don't you dare make me live there. I'll burn down but here's how i look at it if you're waving a foreign flag and you're destroying a different country is that not war or an act of war of some well i mean if it's i don't think it's organized by mexico hell who knows no of course not crazy my lord we should treat them as such i just think you gotta go right i mean you gotta you know california calls for aid the way mos are lit i mean come on you got at that point the guys were circling around with i mean it's And then you got the donuts stand in the background. I mean, you can't make this up. This is just, this is a B-roll for Republicans, for Gavin Newsom going into 2028. Of course, they're too stupid to actually think that. They're going, we can't even get the judicial process right for some of this stuff. But I mean, this is not a peaceful protest. And I think all of these people need to be sent TF home. Send them home. I don't even care if they go home. I just fling them to wherever you think they're from. I don't care. It's mostly peaceful. Mostly peaceful. Who is this? This like riding around on a crotch rocket waving the Mexican flag. Like, what is this? What is this? These are not peaceful protests. I mean, I was told, Kane. Now, you guys all watching. Bear with me. I was told – we were all reliably told that when you're attacking the police and when you are committing destruction, I was told that that, ladies and gentlemen, was an insurrection. I was reliably told this. Now – is that I think that this is an insurrection. I feel like it is. Doesn't it seem that way? I feel like it is. I mean, they've had rocks through windshields. I'm just looking at a list of some of the destruction and all that. I mean, we could sit here and just regale you with all of this video nonstop.
SPEAKER 11 :
Their biggest complaint about J6 was about the federal officers that were involved. I wonder how they feel about federal officers now that they've been. And we have even from this morning where you have giant chunks of concrete being thrown onto the heads of police. This is what they're doing somehow. Now they don't care about federal officers.
SPEAKER 19 :
I saw this one report. from a local i don't think it was ktla but it's another local station in los angeles and they were saying well some of these protesters have taken to tossing rocks by tossing rocks we mean giant chunks of concrete from bridge overpasses onto the police cars below that seems like attempted murder to me that's not you're not protesting that's attempted murder And you had Mayor Karen Bass. She put out this statement. This was yesterday that she had sent. Well, yeah, this was she said, we will not stand for this. And she had her little statement. Actually, so this is the sixth. So this is Friday, Friday evening. She said this morning we received reports of federal immigration enforcement actions in multiple locations as a mayor of a proud city of immigrants. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We will not stand for this. OK, you can be a proud city of immigrants, a proud city of legal immigrants, people who came legally, not people who are sneaking across the border and doing, you know, stuff like I don't know, just case in point. I have a million stories like this. There's a Marine, according to The New York Post, that reported this. He's fighting for his life. After he was paralyzed, he was shot by an illegal immigrant who had previously been arrested and deported four separate times. This Marine veteran from Texas, his name is Jimmy Friesenhan. He survived multiple overseas deployments, including to Iraq. He was in the Marines for 14 years. He was shot by an illegal immigrant at a sports bar, and he is now paralyzed. The illegal immigrant uh wilmer ruiz ortega ruiz he refused to give up the pistol uh he was identified as cops they i mean it was not a peaceful arrest and the marine veteran has a five-month-old baby girl he was left with a spinal injury uh ruptured esophagus and vocal cords he's gone through six surgeries his prognosis isn't fantastic and It was discovered that, I mean, there have been countless detainers placed on this illegal immigrant who shot him, Ortega Ruiz. And he was first arrested in San Antonio, the illegal immigrant charged with a DWI in October 2020. He was let go and failed to show up to court. Bexar County, they also downgraded the DWI charge to simply obstructing a passageway because that's that illegal immigrant privilege. And then he violated his terms of his probation. He got arrested for a second time. They let him go. He didn't show up for court. They got he got arrested again in September 23, bonded out, failed to show up for court. He got arrested a fourth time in November 2024 and sentenced to time served three weeks later. And then he was in an assault where he beat his girlfriend, fled before cops arrived, and then he sneaked into the country again as a gotaway. So that's because we don't we have a completely lawless border. So under the Biden and Harris policies, got this Marine veteran shot and paralyzed. Now, this is the type of stuff we're talking about. No one is a city of that right. We have a lot more on the way because we've got the latest with Abrego Garcia, the Kilmar Abrego Garcia in that case. And then, of course, the little selfie flotilla going into Gaza. We've got that and a bunch of stuff as we move. Summer is all about making great memories. Backyard barbecues, road trips, lake days, even just relaxing in a hammock with a good book. Spending time with friends and family, catching sunset views. But if you're living with pain... Those future memories can be stolen from you. It's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain. So here's a thought. Try Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain. It's a doctor-developed formula made with natural ingredients. And unlike pain meds that just mask it, Relief Factor works to reduce, even eliminate, your pain for good. So whether you're spending time at the lake or chasing your kids or grandkids or just enjoying a summer stroll, Relief Factor can help you feel better, move better, and do more of what you love. Reclaim your summer. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so first up, an urgent recall now. Oh, here we go, Kane. with eggs. Salmonella could kill you. Kill you if you eat it. Nearly 2 million eggs are being recalled over fears they could be contaminated with a deadly, potentially, pathogen. The FDA revealed the recall of 1.7 million brown cage-free and certified organic eggs. How? I mean, are you licking the shell? They said that some of the affected cartons could be lurking in refrigerators. They said it's brands like Rally, Simple Truth, and Sun Harvest. And they have a Julian date. A timestamp indicating when they were packaged between 32 and 126. I don't know. Another one is apparently, I guess, with the organics. I've seen those in the stores before. But I don't know. Just like don't lick the shells. They're like, you know, cooking them sunny side up. That might not be enough. Blah, blah, blah. I don't know. Just Google your damn egg carton. You know, I'm not going to sit here and go through the whole thing of eggs because I think some of this is so overblown, really. The White House dismissed Pride Month as World Pride gathers in Washington. Oh, nobody cares. Everybody pay attention to our protest about how we have to sex. No, amid recession fears, Americans are changing how they handle money in unexpected ways. They said a lot of people are now prioritizing no surprise fees as their top concern when making purchases. And 58% believe a recession is inevitable. Drinking sugar could be worse than eating it, according to a new study. And dating apps might be messing with your mental health. I think almost every app messes with your mental health. Stick with us. We've got a lot more in store. So let's be real. Medical freedom isn't just a catchphrase. It's your right. Your health decisions belong to you and not the government, not Big Pharma, and definitely not someone elected bureaucrat. So that's why I'm all in on what All Family Pharmacy is doing. They're putting medical power back where it belongs, and that's in the hands of you, Americans. Through the end of June, they're making it even easier to take back control because when you control your health, you protect your family, your future, and your freedom. Get 20% off site-wide. No insurance, no problem. No insurance needed. And licensed doctors in all 50 states. You'll also receive fast shipping straight to your doorstep. This isn't just about convenience. It's also about freedom. You can get ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. You can get methylene blue, emergency kits, antibiotics, whatever you need to be prepared, proactive, and protected. So visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use promo code Dana20 to get 20% off your order. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana20. Don't wait for permission. Own your health and take your freedom seriously.
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SPEAKER 06 :
But there you have some of these people there. objecting because they don't want to get kicked out of America, and yet they're burning the American flag. And yet they're waving the flag of the country that they don't want to get sent back to. Can you please make this make sense to me? I mean, it's insane. What happens in California, I think a lot of people over the years, they just haven't felt safe, particularly in places like L.A. and in San Francisco because, you know, they really do let the inmates run the asylum. When you try to do that in Florida, the chances of you getting away with that is precisely zero because we will hold you accountable.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they will grab you and deport you. They're not messing around in Florida. People can sit here and they can joke about having those protests. There ain't going to happen. Welcome back. That's Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. He was addressing some folks and was asked about that question. We're at the bottom of this first hour. Daniel Lash with you. Channel 347 is the stream. The chat's at Rumble. The response, I mean, it's a very stark difference between that. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and California Governor Gavin Newsom, who has, well, audio soundbite. Which one? We've got a million of them. This is maybe what? Let's do six. Yeah, he he's challenging Tom Homan. And I just feel like you don't do that with Uncle Tom Homan. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
Max has been here 10 years. The fear, the horror. The hell is this guy? Come after me. Arrest me. Let's just get it over with. Tough guy. You know, I don't give a damn, but I care about my community. I care about this community. The hell are they doing? These guys need to grow up. They need to stop. And we need to push back. And I'm sorry to be so clear, but that kind of bloviating is exhausting. So, Tom, arrest me. Let's go.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, my perception is this guy, by the way, who has not rebuilt any of his area back yet from the wildfires. And they've had so much. They've had so much corruption. It's under his policies that made it so difficult to even to even start rebuilding. And now they've they've been they've actually been you know, he's got a lot of insurance companies in his back pocket. He's been doing everything he can apparently on behalf of the insurance companies more so than people than Los Angelinos and everyone in the wildfire area. So Gavin Newsom, he's challenging Tom Homan. Like, that's so dippy. Just stop it. Just stop. Stop acting like these are peaceful protests. They're not. They're destroying your city. I mean, I don't know how much more support this guy can lose at this point. But I this is I feel like he is he doesn't really he can't run moderate on this. And this is going to shatter all of the work that Gavin Newsom has done to try to run to the center these past like this past year and a half. Because this does not look like a center-moderate position at all. I mean, you're advocating and you're defending violent thugs who are taking the opportunity just to cause destruction and to loot. They actually, I saw that... They had it go out over the police scanners that LAPD is trying to make it to where they they want Waymo to shut down their app because most of the cars have been called up for Waymo, the self-driving stuff. Most of the cars that have been called up for that, they're getting set on fire. Now, on top of this, you have the Mexican president, Claudia Scheinbaum, very Mexican name. Yeah. I wonder if her family name changed somewhere sometime after World War Two. Curious. Anyway, Claudia Scheinbaum, who is she's she's mad. She says they're not going to stand for any taxes on remittances. And it sounds like she's encouraging protests in the United States in this audio soundbite. Now, as one gets ready to throw this up, I want you to remember that it's you can't go and protest in Mexico if you're a foreigner. Watch this.
SPEAKER 01 :
If necessary, we will mobilize because we do not want taxes on the remittances sent by our fellow countrymen from the United States to Mexico. Hmm.
SPEAKER 19 :
Mobilize. What do you mean mobilize? How much more can you mobilize? Can you send water in there by Tijuana near San Diego? Can you just pump that right out in the Pacific anymore? What do you mean? What do you mean mobilize? You're going to send up more fentanyl through the cartels? You can't tell me this chick is not in bed with the cartels. You cannot tell me. She doesn't get up every morning out of a cartel bed. You can't tell me. Come on.
SPEAKER 11 :
She's alive. That's how you know.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, she's alive. That's exactly it. No, she's shady. She is shady AF, that woman. What does that mean, mobilize, though? Mobilize how? Oh, we're not going to stand for the taxes on remittances. Well, then why don't you do more to stop the flow of illegal immigration in from the southern border? Why don't you do more to control the cartels? Why don't you do more to stop the fentanyl? I mean, Claudia Scheinbaum's getting played like a cuck by China right now. She is. She is getting Claudia Scheinbaum is getting played like a cuck by China. And it is embarrassing to watch. She thinks that she's the strong female leader and she's not. She's getting played by the cartels. She's getting played by China. And it doesn't care how weak and ineffective and pathetic she looks, apparently. So long as she has this this optic of being in power. Good grief. She's like the Mexican Kamala Harris. Unbelievable. So what is that? You know, you can't if she's trying to get people to mobilize in the United States and her wording is vague there, but I'm just going to assume that that's what she means. You can't you can't do that. They had back in 2002, 18 Americans from Evergreen State College were were deported from Mexico because they took part in a May Day march. And there wasn't they didn't riot. Nobody did any. I mean, it was actually just a march. Their law in Mexico, you cannot even show up at a demonstration. You can't even be present at a demonstration, much less speak or anything like that. I mean, nothing like that. I mean, this is this is. I mean, it is illegal for that to happen. I mean, they have I mean, you can sit here and look at it. They say they give lip service to what do they say, human rights and all this other stuff. But you're not allowed to protest. You're not allowed to take part in any marches, show up at any demonstrations. You're not. I mean, it is highly illegal to participate in any and all political activity in Mexico. If you are not a Mexican citizen, you are not a lot. There's no there's no protesters rights for you there. They don't have a First Amendment. They don't do that like we do. So, no, you can't. You will get immediately arrested. And they will identify you and they will arrest you. That's one thing. They do that better than they do stopping fentanyl in the cartels at the southern border. So, Claudia Scheinbaum, no. No, no, no. We're applying the exact same law that Mexico has to people who immigrate here illegally from Mexico. That's how that works. We're going to continue doing it because it's our right. And we're going to continue doing it because we voted for it. If you don't be respectful, don't be trash. Don't be a thug, Claudia. Don't be a thug. So this. Yeah, you have no. I mean, I was reading this piece there. There is no protection of foreigners rights in Mexico. There is none. Would you vacation in Mexico, Kane? And I know I ask this because you have family there.
SPEAKER 11 :
I do. I haven't vacationed in Mexico since the 90s. So the answer is no. I can't even, from the 90s to now, I can't remember a stretch of time that was actually safe and inviting to go to Mexico.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. And I would love to go. I mean, I've never been. I've never been to Mexico. I've been down there at the border. Like literally I've been across the Rio from it and I've seen it. Uh, and I've seen cartel, I've seen coyotes on the other, like actual human coyotes on the other side of it. And, um, but I've never, and I, I don't know that I would feel comfortable doing that. You know, I just, I don't know. I'm not quite sure I would. I mean, we have, we have friends and family that go all the time and they're like, oh, you should come. And I just, I don't know, especially cause I think that their president is a cuck. No, I don't think I could. No. Oh, I'm sure they'd probably, yeah. I'm sure if you were critical of the president there or some, or one of the cartels, I'm sure they would totally get you. Oh, And it's sad because it's so beautiful. It's so beautiful. My gosh, I would love to go all over. But just not. I mean, the cuisine and the food and the scenery and everything, the history, that would be amazing. But no, no, no, can't, no. And I just, can you imagine? How would the left react if Trump got up and was saying that we were going to mobilize in protest of other like in other countries because of their policies? They could actually verbalize that the way Scheinbaum did. Can you imagine? Well, they're celebrating her. What would they say if Trump did that? Dictator, fascist, you know, et cetera, et cetera. Audio somebody said this was Newsom kind of pleading to that. Listen to this. This is him asking that of POTUS.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, where's your decency, Mr. President? Stop. Rescind this order. It's illegal and unconstitutional. And I said it. I'll say it again. It's immoral. You're creating the conditions that you claim you're solving and you're not. And you're putting real people's lives at risk.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, Tom Homan responded to Gavin Newsom. Audio soundbite five. He had a couple of things to say to him. His little challenge. Listen to Tom Homan here.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'd love to get your response to Governor Newsom saying essentially that your actions here are provocative and the quote that he used was sowing chaos.
SPEAKER 13 :
Governor Newsom is an embarrassment for the state. He's the one that's feeding this mantra. He supports sanctuary cities. He supports sanctuary laws. If he cared about public safety in the state of California, he would not have a sanctuary for criminals. Where criminals get released to the streets of this state every day because of his policy.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know what? And we were talking about vacationing in Mexico. So Kane's family's from Mexico. So Lorraine, who moderates the chat, and she's a contributor over at Chapter Inverse and Substack, she's like, nope, I wouldn't go to Mexico. Her husband's Mexican. Her husband, she says he's first gen, born on the side of the border. She wouldn't even go and vacation over there. That's man. That's you know, it's bad then. Oh, my gosh. So, yeah, Scheinbaum needs that. Like, what do they what what do they think is going to happen? What do they what are they? Do they think that these protests or riots are going to do anything to move public perception away from law and order and more towards mass illegal immigration? I'm asking that seriously, because you even get a moderate out there. And a moderate's looking at this going, no way. This is not going to fly. This is this is chaos. It's dangerous. They're not doing I mean, it's this, you know, it's the summer and you're going to see these next summer. These protests are going to be even crazier because we're going to be going into midterms. But I'm just amazed at the way that they've been running defense. Mostly peace. So, I mean, amazed was sort of not really surprised, though, if I'm being honest. And, of course, so many of these things are organized. We have... this uh looking at some of my other things here a lot of ngos coalition for humane immigration rights uh the party for socialism and liberation all of these are well funded by third party entities and they uh i mean it's incredibly it's all very organized and isn't there another thing that they're doing coming up on june 14th called no king's And Christy Walton reportedly paid for an ad, a big giant ad in the New York Times. The Walton heiress, Walmart heiress, calling for a nationwide day of defiance and for people to rise up. Oh, my gosh. Stop it. I'm so tired of this stuff. Rise up for what? Oh, we're just mad. You're mad over what? Because you lost an election. Get over it. Our good friends over at Angel Studios. I don't know if you guys have seen their record-breaking animated faith-based film, King of Kings, because this is one of the new offerings that they have out there. Angel Studios has built something pretty different. They're putting power back into the hands of the viewers, and the film has an all-star cast. I've never heard of such a faith-based film having an all-star cast. Like, You have Ben Kingsley in this and Kenneth Bragna. You have Uma Thurman in this. You have Oscar Isaac in this. Forrest Whitaker's in this. They've got an A-plus cinema score, 98% audience rating. So it's a super popular, very well-done animated faith-based film that you can watch without drowning in wokery. And when you join the Angel Studios Guild and become a member, you can watch not just King of Kings, but stream all of the fan-curated shows and get two free tickets to every show. Angel Studios theatrical release. So visit angel.com slash Dana. Join over a million Americans taking back control of entertainment. Become a premium Angel Studios Guild member. Watch King of Kings. Stream the shows and the movies and get two free tickets to every theatrical release. That's angel.com slash Dana.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm going to say one thing. Trump.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, the Tony's. That's right. They had the theater kids awards over the over the weekend, didn't they? Here's the bit loudest theater kid. You win. So that was Robert De Niro who came out. And look, I don't care if you don't like the president, but when you do something like that in an award ceremony, it's just kind of cringe, right? Oh, he said the F word. Wow, he must be smart. He said the F word. He's a hardcore bad-ass person. No one thinks this. Nobody, I'm just like, that old man is mad. Who made him mad? Someone did not give him his early bird, his senior citizen discount. Like, what's up? Yeah, I didn't pay attention to the Tonys. My mother ruined me on all theater. Except for, well, I will say, we had a friend who is a conservative opera singer, and I went to the opera to watch him perform, and I was blown away. It was amazing. But I know, it's weird. But I just can't get into the sidebar. In case you're new here, I cannot suspend my disbelief. I'm like, why are all the, how do all these people know the same choreography? Like, how are they, you're harmonizing just like that you just met. Like, how does that, it doesn't happen in real life, you know? Like, where's the practice? I got to see the rehearsal first. Anyway, what, isn't this like the third or fourth time that, that De Niro did this? Yeah. Is it really, I mean, is it really tough that, I don't know. I just, I don't know. But I think that there are classier ways to disagree. We need to make class great again, I think, in this country.
SPEAKER 11 :
Actually, I'm 100% with you there. And also, it sounded like he was literally reading that off a teleprompter. Like he couldn't even remember how much he hated Trump.
SPEAKER 19 :
They had a Biden moment, you know. They are the same age or something like that, aren't they? I don't want to dislike De Niro because he played some really good characters. But he makes it hard for me to like him. It's like I don't begrudge anybody having a political opinion. But when it feels like it's directed at me because I disagree with you, then I have a problem. You know, it's just just, you know, do what you're that's that's on you. If you want that livelihood and you want that fandom. But it's just tacky. It's so tacky anymore. I can't even watch these award shows because somebody gets up there and they have their queer, trans, two-spirit, whatever, who is upset over immigration slash whatever the scene of the day is. It's annoying. It's annoying. All right, so coming up. Oof. Couple of things. Who's funding the protest? Because it's all organized. And you know that they're trying to they're they're redoubling their efforts to flip Texas blue. We're going to talk about that a little bit here coming up. We're also going to get into the latest with Kilmar Abrego Garcia. He was brought back to face charges. Kane is dying laughing right now. We're going to dive into all of that and more. Second hour on the way. Stick with us. More of the Dana Show back after this. And our partners that help make it possible. And the folks over at Super Beats with Super Bering. Their latest product. Invest in your metabolism and blood sugar support for less than a dollar a day when you buy Super Barine at Sam's Club. You know Super Beats, which helps to provide healthy blood pressure support. I've used it. You're going to like Super Barine. It's from the same brand that you can trust. doctor-formulated, plant-based, and doctor-formulated with a unique form of berberine and Italian olive fruit extracts. You're getting additional antioxidant and cardiovascular support. And you can't just like walk out and buy any old berberine. I mean, you can, but you're not going to get the same results. The unique berberine and superberine is clinically studied to deliver nearly 10 times higher absorption. Thank you so much for having me. with new Super Boreen for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support. Start today and get on the road to better cardiovascular health support from the folks at Human.
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SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, my first message is to keep it peaceful. I mean, obviously, this is a moment where we have to be on the streets all over the country to protest what's happening to our immigrant community, but more broadly, to protest what's happening to our democracy. This is the most corrupt administration in the history of the country. And we are going to rise to this moment by being out there on the streets. You know, ultimately, I think the country sees what Donald Trump is trying to do here. He's looking for a fight. There's nothing in what he is doing that is about peace or about restoring order. He's taking a protest that is relatively isolated. You know, people in Los Angeles over the weekend would tell you that 99 percent of them went about their day. And it was pretty.
SPEAKER 19 :
I have friends that live all over Southern California, all over. I have friends and like central. I have friends from Santa Barbara all the way down to San Diego. And I'm talking like, I don't know, like at least 30, almost 40 people that we are actually known, talk to regularly that live there. And they are like, this is not isolated. Like whatever you're hearing, it is not isolated. And some of the neighborhoods are actually a couple of the neighborhoods where we have some friends who live. They're like, oh, they try to act like it's all just Compton. And it's not. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Of course, the Californian press goes along with it. The leftist press there. That was Chris Murphy. He's calling for more disorder and more unrest. That's what they're that's what they're calling for, because the left knows, you know, they know they know their people. They know that if they call for everybody to get out in the streets, that they're going to get out in the streets and they're going to run roughshod over law enforcement. That's they've been they are protected in doing that. It's so stupid. And I'm I'm just curious, too. I made mention of this. I'm like, well, why are they so you know, I'm I'm waiting for there to be as much criticism over the masked rioters as there has been over masked people. ICE agents who have to max because cartels have put bounties on their heads and even targeted their family. There was one account called L.A. Scanner on Twitter. By the way, don't ever think. Let me just let me tell you, a lot of people who like myself, who are just constitutionalists and we want to be left alone and we want to be happy, you know, and we want to like just enjoy life and listen to good music. And, you know, we want to bitch and moan about monetary policy. That's what we want to do. We want to slap fight over that kind of boring stuff. The moment you make us have to exert more energy into this other things is the moment that life is going to get bad for you. Because we're all like Gen Xers, baby Gen Xers, disgruntled Gen Zers. We are like the meanest people you will ever encounter. The moment you make it to where we have to exert energy to deal with your nonsense on the left. So this little lunchbox named L.A. Scanner, I don't want to say his name. We know his name. Yeah. Know his address, license plates, everything. Now, I don't, you know me, I don't like going and doing, you know, I mean, yes, part of me loves vigilantism. That's the anarcho side. The other part of me does not like it because, you know, I just know. But when you're trying to dox ICE agents like this dude was, I've got screenshots of this dude online who's saying, you know, give me any, you know, photos, you know, et cetera, of ICE agents and location, et cetera, et cetera. And then the tables turned. Someone found him. And then he said he posted, I recently discovered several posts containing my family's name and home addresses. This is unacceptable and violates our privacy. And if anyone appears at my residence with harmful intentions, I am legally entitled to use deadly force in accordance with my state's law. So he pretends to be this Los Angeles expert and he lives in Texas. He doesn't even live in Los Angeles. And he looks like he's a couple of years short of even being able to legally carry a handgun. I mean, he might be, but it's kind of hard to tell because I don't think he's a fan of working out. And I'm just saying, like, when you are running your mouth like that and you're doxing people and trying to act hard. It's going to be thrown back in your face. Eleventy times. That's the rule of the internet. So normally I would condemn something like that. But I'm not. Because it's like you FAFO. You play stupid games. You're going to win stupid prizes. And he's been scrubbing his posts non-stop with this. But he was trying to post photos of anything that he thought was ice agents that were unmasked. There was all kinds of crazy stuff he was doing. Super dangerous. And... He was doxing ICE agents and he ended up getting doxed is what happened. And this – and when you see everything that – These ICE agents have been, and not just ICE agents, local law enforcement that even try to uphold the law. They get photos of them. They put their names out online. They find their home addresses. They find out where their kids go to school. It has been pretty, it's becoming commonplace. That's one of the reasons why all these ICE agents have been covering their faces to protect themselves because cartels have put actual hits on them. Don't try to flex online like this. I can't stand it when people do this. Do not try to do this because there are people on the internet who are not like me who do not have restraint. And you open that Pandora's box and you cannot close it. So don't be stupid. And it's nobody's fault but yourself because you were trying to act hard and endanger other people's families by doxing them and putting this information online. And nobody feels bad for this chump. Nobody feels bad for him. It's just it's unfortunate that people have to learn the hard way. So, you know, and then he's been scrubbing. I hope he learns a lesson. I hope he learns a lesson and doesn't try to violate other people's privacy for clicks anymore in the future. Now that it's been thrown back at him after he's endangered all of these other families. And then when it got turned back around on him, hopefully he learned his lesson. And like I said, it's unfortunate that he had to learn it in so stupid a fashion. But there it is. So this is just this is how ridiculous it's gotten with all of this. And then you have got people like Chris Murphy out there saying, oh, yes, we need nationwide street protests. That's the last thing we need. You do not want this. I'm telling you, it's summer. People are tired of this nonsense. I mean, have we had a summer came where this has not happened with the Republican in office?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, no.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, it was quiet when Biden was in office because they didn't have anything to rail against. But now. Every time a Republican's in office, every summer, it's riot season. Riot season every summer. We're tired of this stuff. Blocking highways. And then whenever we get, whenever arrests start, then they're like, oh, it's escalating. Trump did not escalate this. This had been violent long before. Stores were getting looted long before. Fires were being set long before. Waymos were being destroyed long before. Chunks of concrete were being thrown at cops long before. Border agent or ICE agents were being doxed long before. So don't ask. Act like after a half a week that Trump calling up the National Guard or talking or getting the National Guard involved and maybe calling up the Marines. Don't act like he's escalating this. The people who escalated it is Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass and all these other elected officials in California who refused to do anything to tamp down the violence. And they let it grow and feed itself and grow and grow and grow and get completely out of control. You have livelihoods that are being wrecked. Again, it's like we have the same, it's like, you know, monsoon season with this. We have the same commentary every time stuff like this happens. You know, you've got you've got all of these these people that are having their businesses ruined. And what gets me to is that all of this always kick starts off in minority neighborhoods. Have you noticed this? All of the and these are organized. Don't think for a second that this is not all organized. There's a lot of threads that deep dive into the money. A lot of the money that's involved in this are a lot of these packs and a lot of these shadow groups. fund these activists and all a lot of these activists are very well known because they take their circus show on the road it's like a traveling circus but they always start in minority neighborhoods like they think that targeting and starting a minority neighborhood that that's okay for them to sacrifice that those types of neighborhoods for their activities They did it in St. Louis, Kane. Oh my gosh, when they started that off in Ferguson. Because people, when it first started, let me just go back real quick. When the Mike Brown stuff first started, and Kane is from that area, and I lived like maybe a couple miles down the highway from Ferguson. That area, when it first kicked off, they had protests, but they had a lot of church leaders involved. Kane, as you remember. And I'm not giving anybody a pass for anything because you always got bad actors in every one of these situations. But the leaders of that, they had church elders. In fact, nobody talks about this. In Ferguson, in the very beginning, those churches got involved like that. They were like, uh-oh, uh-oh, this is going to get bad real quick. So they had a lot of the church leaders. They had a lot of the elders that got involved in Ferguson. And they were immediately like partnering with some of these activists. And they're like, OK, if you're going to do this, it's going to be done peacefully. And you had elders. You had like grandpas. You had deacons in the church. You know, you had historical black churches that were involved. And they were like, we're not going to let this get. And then it changed. It changed, and this is fact, because you had organized activists that came in from Chicago. When ACORN was busted up, after the ACORN bust, and I was helped with that story when I worked with Andrew Breitbart, They reformed and they called themselves more. And I forget what that's short for. M.O.R.E. But Acorn Reformed. They became more. More was that was the group that helped facilitate. They brought in all of these Chicago Marxists, all of these activists and some of them we knew. Because we had been involved in a lot of street activism during the Tea Party days. And we knew a lot of these activists because we had seen them trying to start trouble around St. Louis on behalf of like Obama and McCaskill and all that stuff. So they came in this and we and we were like, wait a minute. And they were white activists. marxists who came in from chicago and they hijacked all of that stuff in ferguson and in fact uh one some of the leading voices and the peaceful protests and what they were trying to do was create a coalition to work with police and to actually get more black police officers from ferguson they were trying to they came in and threw all that out the window and all hell broke loose and and Moore was paying them, and that's a fact. And you want to know how we all know that? Because the activists didn't get a check one day, and they staged a sit-in at the Moore offices, and they trended it, hashtag cut the check on Twitter. That's how we know. They didn't get paid when they were supposed to, and so they protested. So you had all these Chicago activists who paused protesting in Ferguson, and they did a sit-in at Moore, and they had that hashtag cut the check, and it trended. And that's how and they told on themselves. And meantime, in the meantime, all of the peaceful activists that were trying to organize things, they got shoved to the side. And then they had the Marxist activists come in and they had their their leftist press attack the peaceful. Actual people who lived in Ferguson attack them and say, oh, they're just mad because they're not getting camera time. They weren't mad because they weren't getting camera time. They were mad because these Marxists from Chicago came in and were burning down their businesses in their neighborhoods. That's why they were mad. It is always organized. And the same people that were involved in funding that. They were also involved in helping to flip the Colorado legislature. They're involved with trying to flip Texas. And they are involved in funding all of this stuff out in L.A. It is all absolutely connected. I mean, some of these activists I recognize. Some of the older ones, I recognize them. You remember the chick? This was after Kenneth Gladney got beaten on camera by some SEIU dudes. in the parking lot of a Russ Carnahan town hall. That was the first time, one of the first times I started going on Fox regularly. This is like back in 08 and I had the video and I gave it to Greta Van Susteren who had her show on and hers was the only producer I knew at the time at Fox. And I made sure that her producer got that video and she broke that whole story on her show. And that's all of that stuff with the town halls just blew open. And that happened in St. Louis. It happened with our stuff. And there were activists there that we saw that were from Chicago. And one of them was this old lady. You remember what her name was? I can't. But she was everywhere. She was everywhere. She I think they even went to Sanford after the Trayvon stuff. She was everywhere. She was like the one that you would. She was literally like an organizer for hire. This white Marxist from Chicago. But she worked with the SEIU stuff after Gladney. She did all this. And it is also organized. You guys would fall out if you knew. It's always the same players every single time. Always the same players. Gold Co. I love gold. Love the gold standard. I love those hard assets. They offer real security and they've stood the test of time. You don't have to panic. You just be prepared. You can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today and you could qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. Real silver instantly matched to your account. Tax and penalty free. Think about it. 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SPEAKER 11 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm just still finding some of the craziest audio, by the way, of all this coverage from media of L.A. stuff. We'll have more of that. Let's see. United has switched off Starlink Internet on regional jets after a static problem. I hope that is a one off issue because Wi-Fi on planes are so bad. And usually when I'm on a plane, I'm working on a plane, too. And that means I have to have Wi-Fi. I mean, I usually work the whole flight when I'm on a plane. So that's I really hope they get that fixed. Let's see here. I don't want to miss it. No, we'll come to that one if we have time left. College students are using no contact orders to block each other in real life. Oh my gosh, this is so stupid. Oh, my gosh. So everybody's like everybody is getting out protective orders against people. That seems really dumb to do that, because in some states you can become a prohibited possessor until the conclusion of an investigation. And in Tulane, they've been doing this. Some of their students have been doing this on each other. They said that, yeah, they've been issuing no contact orders. I think it's from through their agency. but still, you can't, that has to be something that, I mean, you need a process for that. You can't, good heavens. British Airways is banning crew members from taking selfies and making TikTok videos. I think that's smart, too. And we've got a lot more on the way, including Greta Thunberg and also Simone Biles. Stick with us. Our friends over at Caltech, the PR-57. F-I-D-D-Y. PR-57. This is a great, it's a great, a great gun. And it's from Kel-Tec. And they've really changed the game on a lot of the stuff. And this is no different. The PR57 rotary barrel pistol is the lightest 5.7 that's out there. 40% lighter than the competition. Perfect for concealed carry. You can actually conceal carry this thing because it's 40% lighter and it's so thin. The unique top loading design. So get this. It doesn't have traditional magazines. It top loads with stripper clips. That gives it a slimmer carry profile and a 20 plus 1 capacity. And that rotary barrel, that also helps redefine the size. And the MSRP is only $399. It is so ridiculously affordable. This is one that you have to have and you can have. Low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. Built to perform. And it's just incredibly innovative, groundbreaking from Kel-Tec. All-American labor, all-American parts, family-owned Kel-Tec right here in the U.S. of A. It's the new PR57 Chambered in 5.7 from Kel-Tec. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Innovation Performance Kel-Tec. Tell them Dana sent you.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Are Democrats out of touch on this issue?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think if you did the polling in Los Angeles, I'm not sure it would be that way, considering we are a city of immigrants. And then people might approve that policy. But do people really approve the federal government coming in and seizing power from a state and from a city? So I drill down a little further on that poll because I do not believe that Americans support the federal intervention in a city takeover or a state takeover.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, well, unfortunately, they do, in fact, approve and disapprove. It's 54 to 46 percent. And that's of Californians, apparently, according to CNN. And they said, she's like, well, I think if you did the polling on Los Angeles, I'm not sure it would be that way. Well, they did. And it is. I actually thought it would be by a wider margin. But still, it's, you know, it's what, plus 12. So, yeah, that's, you know, that's pretty significant that they do. I mean, I don't know what they think that they that they were doing here by not doing anything. Welcome back. That's Karen Bass, who's the mayor of Los Angeles. And I find it all fascinating that they were allowing this to happen. Business owners were watching their properties get destroyed. And what are Democrats trying to flex on? What are they trying to flex on? I mean, people, businesses are being looted and destroyed. And this is being described as mostly peaceful. Do you think if Gavin Newsom's mansion was raided by mostly peaceful writers that he would be OK with it? Because it's the same thing when someone's going into your store, stealing product that you're selling that that in a in a business that you used to pay other people's salaries, not to mention your own bills. It's the same thing. But, you know, Gavin Newsom doesn't know that because he's literally a nepo baby. And Karen Bass is a DEI hire. It's just it's sickening to me. And they're upset. Well, you know, this was all started and kicked off by the administration. No, he responded only after all of this had been going on for days afterwards. I, you know, and I made this point because there's several tweets. I don't know if you've seen Gavin Newsom went on a tear over the weekend and he was very upset about all of this and saying that it was basically all it's all Trump's fault. It's all Trump, Trump, Trump. It's, you know, he did that. I mean, this is even from days ago. He said the federal government's taking over the California National Guard, not because there's a shortage in law enforcement, but because they want a spectacle, he said. And I'm like, but the violent riots weren't a planned spectacle. You're telling me that the riots weren't? I mean, think about it. You had ICE agents that established an outpost near a Home Depot. And the media in California ran the story as ICE agents are raiding Home Depots. I'm not kidding. It's the way that they were putting it. And then everyone loses their mind. And then you started to see what you saw. And Newsom says that response to the violent riots and fires and destruction, etc., that's escalation and that's a spectacle. These people will do everything possible to protect criminals, won't they? I read this thread of this guy who lives in L.A. and he works there. He doesn't really want to live there anymore. And he had a separate thread where he was discussing all of that. But he said his son, who's six years old, he did really well in school or something. So he took him to the store to pick out a Lego set as a reward because he worked really hard in school and he's been working, really doing a lot at home and really being helpful and pitching in and going above and beyond. So his mom and dad were like, okay, well, you can go to the store and you can get a Lego set. So they go into, I think it was a Target, they go into a store and they walk to the toy section and all of the toys are behind glass doors locked, all of them. the whole Lego aisle was nothing but locked glass cabinets. You don't even have the joy of picking up the box and turning it over and looking to see what's on the back of the box. I mean, and what the dad said was like, it's little moments like this that just ruin it. And that's true, think about that. It's those little moments that these people sacrifice at the altar of coddling criminals. What is the point of coddling criminals? Why are they trying to kiss the ass of illegal immigrants so badly? Sacrificing the businesses of citizens here. The well-being of citizens here. Everybody talks about mental health, the mental health of citizens here. You know how mentally taxing it is? To know that, you know, like the Marine veteran I was sharing about guys shot and killed or shot and disabled in a restaurant. He was made he was paralyzed because he was shot by an illegal immigrant. What about that? It's why are they protecting these people over that of their own citizens? You know, I keep thinking of Jamil Shaw, senior, who lost his son. Who was killed by illegal immigrants. His son was a high school athlete, honor roll student. I introduced him to the Trump campaign back in 2015. And his son was shot and killed by gang members because Jamil Shaw Jr., his school colors, apparently the gang members did not like literally the jersey of his school colors. He was coming back from practice. And he was apparently like a half a block away from his house. His dad heard the gunshots. And Jamil Shaw Jr. took his last breaths in his dad's arms. And those people, the illegal immigrants that shot him, apparently had been deported. One of them was deported twice. Now, Keynes thinks that's going to be their future voting bloc. I mean, it is. Invasions aren't necessarily... Like what you see in D-Day, which was an honorable thing that was liberating occupied France. They're not like amphibious assaults. They're not land-based, you know, with armies marching in. For people who think that there has to be a formula followed for an invasion, they are ignorant of history. They need to read some Sun Tzu. They're ignorant of history. They need to read some Marcus Aurelius. They need to read previous military tacticians throughout history. There's a million different ways that you can invade another sovereign nation without firing a single shot. There is a number of ways that you can declare war on another sovereign nation without firing a single shot. It can be monetary. It can be policy. It can be this. And you can't tell me that it's not. And I also think that a lot of it and I don't think I know a lot of it's funded by China. Think of the drug trade. Think of China's relationship with Mexico and the cartels and fentanyl. It is a booming business for them. They trafficking humans and trafficking fentanyl. That's their biggest export. Probably next to tequila and avocados. Maybe some citrus. It is a huge cash crop for them. And China loves it because now they have an agent of destabilization right at the United States' southern border. You're destabilizing a geopolitical foe without using up any of your military resources. And staying out of trade policy. You're not even invoking that. And by going through all of these third parties and working through the cartels, you're doing everything you can to just muddy up the fingerprints on it as much as possible. It's super smart. But unfortunately, we have a political party in this country that has enough influence and power that they don't care or they don't know or both. But this stuff that's happening at the border, the stuff that you're seeing in California, that's insane. I can't imagine immigrating to a country. And first off, I can't imagine insulting the country, being such trash, you go in illegally. And then further, I can't imagine trying to participate in criminal activity and doing stuff like this. Because you think that there should not be any kind of consequences for your criminality. I mean, every country has consequences for that. But the United States isn't allowed because the United States is a threat. And you have all of these other players that don't want the United States to be able to enforce that. They want the United States to be weakened from within, much like it was in the final days of Rome with the barbarians. I mean, it's very similar. People don't read history. Now, Greta Thunberg was on her selfie flotilla. Audio of somebody, 32. She was intercepted and apparently a lot of the so-called aid that they were going to deliver to Gaza, they actually consumed themselves, according to reports. Listen to this. How dare you?
SPEAKER 1 :
32.
SPEAKER 14 :
My name is Greta Thunberg and I am from Sweden. If you see this video, we have been intercepted and kidnapped in international waters by the Israeli occupational forces or forces that support Israel. I urge all my friends, family and comrades to put pressure on the Swedish government to release me and the others as soon as possible.
SPEAKER 19 :
She's 22 years old. She is a grown adult woman and people still like coddle her like she's a 10 year old. I mean, I blame her parents for this. Honestly, she's like, we've been kidnapped. Guess what? When you try to, hey, put it like this. We're on a flotilla. We're on a bunch of unicorn rafts and we're, Kane, we're going, we're going to illegally enter Cabo. How well do you think that's going to go?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we'll probably get shot.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I mean, you'd be intercepted for sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, no doubt.
SPEAKER 19 :
When you're taken into custody after trying to illegally enter a specific area, especially if it's in a war zone, are you being kidnapped or is that just a consequence of you being a dip redacted?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's that last part you said there.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's what I think. That's what I think. So she was on her selfie flotilla. And apparently that's like all they were doing. They were taking a bunch of, I don't know, what was their purpose? They thought they were trying to deliver aid. Apparently they had two tons of aid. Israel is the only nation on earth that's expected to give aid to the people trying to murder it. explain that one to me remember this anytime another see this is why i'm like you know you have countries like ukraine and everyone else like wait a minute oh now we're supposed to care what's different now we're supposed oh you're oh oh you're being targeted oh but it's we're what's the situational difference here they were on their selfie yacht and uh apparently they're also now going to be forced to watch all of the video footage from october 7th I think that's genius. And I think that they should. They all showed up, these little activists with their little picnic blankets on. And they had 12 activists and an Irish actor. I don't know who this Irish actor is. And they were intercepted by the IDF. And the IDF was like very, you know, they brought them to shore. They brought them to Israel. And I... I think it would be very bad for them. I think that they think that they want to go to Gaza. And then when they get to Gaza, what they think and then what the reality is are probably two very different things came. Yeah. But they pretended. Everybody knew where they were the whole time. These people are such drama queens. They were like, oh, the seas are rough. They weren't. Oh, we lost radio contact. Everybody knew where they were. But they were still able to take photos of themselves and, like, upload it to the Internet. I don't get it. And then the IDF, they boarded and they fed them. They gave them sandwiches. Jeez. They did all this stuff for them. These brats, these absolute brats. It's so embarrassing. That is so embarrassing for these activists. And so now they their Freedom Flotilla was detained and they're all going to be deported back to their home countries. And they're forced to watch Hamas's video footage of the October 7th terror atrocities, the genocide. And they I mean, it was, you know, they called it the selfie. And they are their celebrity activists. They said that any of the remaining aid that the celebrities didn't consume, because they apparently ate through a lot of it, because they had a little party. I'm not kidding. Apparently they ate through a lot of it. How embarrassing for you. They said that they would actually distribute it through their actual humanitarian channels. That's so... There's a picture of Greta Thunberg of their handing her a sandwich. Oh, my gosh. She looks like she's well-fed. I don't think that they need to worry. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just saying she doesn't look like she's, you know, starving. Like, what? She doesn't look like the prisoners that Hamas kept. She doesn't look like the Israeli prisoners that Hamas had in custody for over a year. I mean, it's just so cringe. It's so cringe. Coming up, Kilmar Abrego-Garcia is going to be facing charges here in the United States. We're going to... I think that's all... I have thoughts. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. And Patriot Mobile, they want to make sure that, you know, you want to be mindful with your money. They're mindful with the money that people send them for service. And so they're not going to put money behind things that you don't believe in or vote against at the ballot box, while also providing you with exceptional nationwide coverage. They operate on all three major networks. So you get to stay connected wherever you go. And when you switch, you're working with a 100% U.S.-based customer service team. They're dedicated to making your switch easy. Keep your number. Keep your phone. Upgrade. It's never been easier to switch, and the choice is entirely yours. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Switch today and defend freedom with every call and text you make. Get that free month of service using promo code Dana only at patriotmobile.com slash Dana or by calling 972-PATRIOT.
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SPEAKER 11 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 19 :
So I think if you're trying to pass off a bad check, maybe don't go for a high dollar amount, like right off the bat. I don't want to give anybody advice for breaking the law, but you know, a Florida man got charged with trying to cash a fake $5,000 check. He's back in court. And he also had a counterfeit state ID. And he wanted to cash this fake $5,000 check. Billy Pierre, 21 years old of Homestead, Florida. He was arraigned just a few days ago, given $200,000 bond. But yeah, they said that they immediately knew that it was a fake. I mean, first off, $5,000. I mean, you know, it's like, I think it would be people are going to pay more attention, obviously, if it's a higher dollar amount, right, than if it was like maybe $100. But he really wanted to go hard, man. He wanted to go all the way. A man assaulted a Chick-fil-A worker after trying to refill a cup that he brought from home. Okay, you can't just bring a cup from home and go into a fast food restaurant and try to get free soda, free drinks. So he's facing, but it's a felony burglary and assault charge. He forced his way into the employee area of Chick-fil-A to fill the beverage cup that he brought from home. It was in Coral Springs. And they said the guy, Ralph Maurice Auguste of Coral Springs, he carried a cup that he had not, it was a Chick-fil-A cup, but it was an old one. And when they said, no, you can't use that cup and try to take it and throw it away, he became irate and physically abusive. He pushed the employee. And it was a woman. He pushed her and then trespassed into the restricted area and then tried to flee the scene. But, of course, they caught him. So now he's in a lot of trouble because he was an idiot. Let's see this. Oh, we had an impersonation. Another Florida impersonation police. You can't do that. You can't fake being a police officer. Fifty nine year old Mario Allende was charged with falsely impersonating a police officer, pulling someone home. He told pulling someone over. He said he was a federal agent. And that the person's driving, he didn't like how that person was driving. So they were going to go to federal prison because he did not like their driving. They said that the witnesses said that he had a car with red and blue lights. He had a black FBI hat and a black wallet with a card that had the FBI insignia on it. And after the incident, the victim flagged down an officer stating that, I think I just got pulled over by a fake cop. And so they got him and they saw him at that exact intersection. And when he saw the cops, he took off his red and blue lights and tried to put them in the backseat of his car. Yeah, he got arrested. Totally. We have our third hour on the way. Go nowhere. We got more in store. Stick with us. It's a burn a gun. I'm always going to tell you to carry. I carry and I have zero issue at all whatsoever. Ladies and gentlemen, with using lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones, I'm trained and completely not emotional in doing so. Here's the thing, though. Sometimes you're disarmed, whether it's by municipal restrictions, private property restrictions, or maybe you're a college student and you're living on your own, but you are yet young, too young to be able to have and carry a handgun. This is where Burna gun comes in. So there's two versions. You have the Burna SD, which is their best selling model. And then they just came out with the new Burna CL. CL stands for compact launcher. Now it's like the SD model. But the difference, 38% smaller, a little bit more compact. All of it's made right here in the U.S. of A. And they shoot chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. It's easy target acquisition. There is no recoil. And when you compare it to like regular stun guns, et cetera, you got one or two rounds there. Berna has five. It's illegal in all 50 states. No background checks, no permits. They ship it right to your door. It does not care about gun-free zone signs either. and it makes it accessible for everyone. So the SD, and then there is the CL. Both of them are great. Now, they have, like, rifles and that, but for the purpose of self-defense, especially, you know, when you're trying to conceal, I would suggest the SD or CL, and the CL is even more compact. But this is a self-defense option for when your options are limited out of your power. Visit Burna.com slash Dana and get your hands on the new Burna CL. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana. Burna, ready when you are.
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SPEAKER 19 :
ICE agents driving through L.A. and they're trying to leave this protest, this riot. Rocks.
SPEAKER 01 :
Rocks.
SPEAKER 19 :
Didn't somebody, didn't they punch a horse? Yeah. I have this story. Yeah, there's apparently like... somebody there's a horse that got punched I feel like if you're punching a police horse I should be able to just go free for all on you right I feel like you are forfeiting any right to be in any way gently handed handled after that oh my gosh yeah they attacked I can't even is this video because I cannot watch this video do not play it because I you know how I am I'm like oh no no pause pause pause I don't want to watch it oh my gosh no it's autoplaying
SPEAKER 11 :
They're using the giant fireworks to scare these horses. Like, these people have no heart. Like, at all. Lump of coal.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, it is, this is just garbage. Garbage. And, I mean, everybody, they were just sitting there, watching. Okay, go ahead and play it. But I don't, oh my gosh, I feel so bad for these horses. Oh my gosh, if you're doing this to horses, I want to just B-slap you into another... so hard that your ancestors feel it. I mean, they're trying to hurt and scare these horses, so they're attacking the horses now. Thankfully, the riders are very well trained, and they're able to calm the horses down and keep them. It's just horrible. This is not peaceful. These people are thugs. If you're participating in this and you're in the country illegally, GTFO. You are not owed a single damn thing. This is our land. Get out. I'm done with it. I'm done being, I mean, I guess you have to like devolve down to just brutality and, you know, ancient tribal warfare, I guess, in order to get the message across to people who don't understand that these actions, this is felonious criminal activity. Um, I, I, I can't, that's just as sad. And they, and these sweet little horses, they were, they weren't doing anything wrong. And the right, they were just there overseeing everything. It's not the, you know what, if you don't want the police to come out when you're protesting, then don't write and damage stuff. I've been to, I can't tell. I've organized protests. I've attended more protests than I can count over like a 15 year period. I've crashed protests. The only time that I saw that we had SWAT respond to a protest, I wasn't actually at this one. It was in Illinois. And it was during the early the first Obama term. And it was I wasn't there because it was in the middle of the week and I was on air. And so there were a bunch of elderly people that were coming out because it also had to do with some of the things that with Social Security that Obama was proposing to do. This was in the lead up to Obamacare. And there were a bunch of elderly people who came out legit with coolers filled with little Hi-C pouches and they had folding chairs and they were going to sit and just like protest, you know, that's what they, and they sent, there's video of it, they sent SWAT out to basically face off with these elderly people. It was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. But I've been to so many protests, the conservative protests and, you know, people who are constitutionalists, it never does, they never devolve into this. This is always what leftists do every single time. you have illegal immigrants and then you have marxists that are that are exploiting this moment to do this and i just i don't know i think these people where's peta with this stuff where are you at peta where the hell was peta about you know all of these they reached out to me one time because they liked one of the stories i did and i'm like where the hell were you guys at when all these animals are being released at the southern border by people coming in across the border illegally you know claim to care about animals so much ain't hear nothing from you on that Let's sit here and compare and contrast the actual love for animals, shall we? Where's the concern for these horses that what these protesters are doing to these riders, what they're doing to the horses? Where are these animal rights groups? Just like with these bitches who sit here in cottage industry, feminazism, they are nowhere to be found, nowhere to be found ever. It's insane. I feel like. You know, we're going to have to go back to centuries of yore to deal with some of this stuff. I am way more hardcore than this. I think if you're in the country illegally and you're taking part in this stuff, I think that we should be able to react to you the same way that Mexico would react to somebody that came into its country illegally and then started participating in riots. I think we should be able to enact the exact same kind of penalty to those people that they do. Absolutely. But this is this is just it's it's ridiculous. And the media cover up of this, the media cover up. Now, I do want to say something that might be unpopular. Because I see a lot of people breathlessly saying that we are on the edge of a civil war. No, we're not. How do I know that? Have you seen the way did you see the way the last election went? Did you see the way the last election went? Sorry, but you can't have as many people as you have as we had back in 2024. Can't believe it's only been like five months. You cannot have that many people vote the way that they did and also be on the edge of a civil war. People are tired of this stuff. I really want to drive home this point. The left is the minority now, and this is what the right is getting wrong about the approach to this. These far-left progressives are the minority. The right has been succeeding in stamping out this ridiculous lawlessness and disorder, and they have been making the case. See, left and right, this paradigm used to be based on policy, and now it's so much more. It's cultural policy. And this this is the problem. It is the criminal criminality and the disorder and the chaos is a cultural building block of the left now. Which they've conflated with policy. So it's changed things. But I don't believe that we're on the edge of a civil war simply because too many people voted against this nuttiness. I mean, would you agree with that, Cain? I think a lot of people are saying that. And I kind of wonder if they're not saying it for clicks. I just feel like there needs to be a perspective here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we actually have even this morning a poll from CNN that talks about Trump's approval rating as it relates to immigration. A CNN poll. It's up 22 points from 2017. People want this. The majority of people want this. And it's just something the media is going to have to accept.
SPEAKER 19 :
And in California, it's like plus 12 in favor of the administration's policies. In terms of dealing with illegal immigration. So I know I don't believe that we're on the cusp of a civil war. What I do believe, though, is that the left is losing the cultural revolution. In one instance, the. I think that there is a secondary ulterior motive in which they want to remake the right surreptitiously. And that's a conversation for another day. But by and large, I just I'm not seeing that too many people voted against this. I got to tell you, I know of people. who live in some very liberal areas and we do not agree on everything. And some of them, like I have an individual I know who is very opposite me on the trans issue, but they also are not one of those individuals that's forcing it on kids and in schools and all this stuff. If you do what you're doing, you wanna be left alone and you're an adult, then don't mess with me, I'm not messing with you. As long as you're not involved in like pedophilia But they see this stuff and they're like, wait a minute, we don't want people here coming in illegally and then causing all this trouble and creating this chaos and engaging in criminality. They don't want to deal with that either. And I think focusing on those issues of that common ground has been chipping away at the left. And that's why I think we're really not like on the edge of a civil war. And I don't want the right to start engaging in that clickbait stuff as a way to kind of turn up momentum because that dissipates very quickly. The right is not the left. The left has to have that kind of fodder to constantly motivate them. The right doesn't because the right, when you ask something of voters, they want to see a receipt. They are very different from the left. They want receipts. And we can all see this stuff happening. So it's just bad for them. This is all bad for them. Case in point with the cultural stuff. I want to shift gears somewhat here. I don't know if you saw this over the weekend. So Simone Biles, who I think they consider her one of the greatest gymnasts of all time, right? I think they do. Yeah. I was trying to remember who I think like of our generation, they consider her to be like one of the one of the greatest. So Simone Biles went after I'm pulling this tweet up. Riley Gaines out of like nowhere. Riley Gaines wasn't talking to anybody. She was just making a comment about a trans athlete, a man competing as a woman. Who decided who ended up, you know, beating out all of these other women, obviously. And she went after Riley Gaines made mention of it. And then out of nowhere, Simone Biles gets gets involved, which is kind of trashy. And she went after Riley Gaines for it. And like tried to insult her. She went on a tear. It was like all weekend, wasn't it? It's like all weekend. She made fun of her height. She goes bully someone your own size, which would ironically be a male. Riley Gaines is like five, four, five, five. She's only a few inches taller than Simone Biles. Okay, so that doesn't make sense. She was, she retweeted and said, you're sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive or creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category in all sports, but instead you bully them. One thing is for sure, no one in sports is safe with you around. Simone Biles is a thug. This is thug behavior. Shame on you. She's a fake feminist. She's somebody who she seems like a handful, like she seems like a diva and she constantly complains. And she was always like, I'm bullied, mental health, blah, blah, blah. She didn't want to do press. You know, you're an Olympian, whatever. She has a silver spoon. She's wanted for nothing in life. She's had a completely fairytale existence. And she's mad because Riley Gaines, Riley Gaines was robbed of a spot on the podium by a man who is bigger than her, has greater muscle strength than she does, is faster, who went through puberty as a man who competed in swimming as a man until when until like, you know, just a few years ago. So, yeah, she would have been tops in her category were it not for the man that knocked her down a peg. And if Simone Biles had to compete against a male gymnast, guess what? Simone Biles is going to lose. But there I honestly feel like there are some women. who advocate for the trans stuff, like Simone Biles, who see younger talent coming up after them. And I feel like they don't want their crown to get tarnished or they don't want to be outshined by younger talent. So they're trying to pull that ladder up. They don't want other women to actually be able to share their space. So they're trying to force them to compete with men to make that not possible. I honestly think that's a motivation, one of the motivations here. Does that make sense? That's how women think. Women are weird.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I don't get that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, women can be catty. Like a lot of women, especially if they're on the left, they really believe in the scarcity of opportunity. Although some on the right believe that. I mean, there's stories out there. But they believe in the scarcity of opportunity. And I really get the sense that Simone Biles is just like, I don't want anyone else to outshine me ever. So we need to have men integrated in women's sports now. Because that way then it's all men and she doesn't have to ever share the title with another female. She doesn't ever have to compete with another female for sports endorse or for endorsements. Right. She doesn't have to worry about all of that. She can mean she can keep, you know, this title of being one of the greats so long as no one comes up underneath her to outshine her. Honestly, I really feel like that's what a lot of it is. A lot of these women are too insecure and they don't have the confidence. And I feel like they don't really want to maintain what they have anymore. So they just want to keep other women from coming up. That makes sense if you think about it. And given the way that her personality seems, I totally buy that. And that's sad, right? That's sad that there are some women out there who are so threatened and who are so weak that they feel like they're going to be diminished because younger talent comes up. It's like you can't just revel in the fact that you helped pave the way and you helped make this happen and you helped elevate women's sports. You feel like you've got to gatekeep by taking that ladder away and preventing other women from ascending also. That's anti-woman. And they lie to themselves and they pretend that it's actually pro-trans when they're using trans as a tool to gatekeep and keep others from outshining them. You see how that works? They pretend to be trans adjacent, but they're really not. They're using it as a tool to protect and gatekeep so that they don't have to give up an endorsement or lose anything on their own. Interesting. We're on to you. Hey, folks. So I want to share something important that every American should be aware of. We're seeing a lot of economic uncertainty right now. You have the national debt rising, global trade tensions impacting markets and tariffs with higher prices on the stuff that everybody uses every day. It's not about panic. It's about preparation. So this is why I partnered with Gold Co., the top rated precious metals company, to help you take a step towards protecting your financial future. Smart investors look to hard assets like gold and silver to help weather the storm. It's a strategy that's been used for generations. And right now you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit that breaks it all down for you. And if you qualify, you could receive unlimited bonus silver, real silver matched to your account with no taxes or penalties. It's a smart move that could help you feel more secure with what lies ahead. Visit danalikesgold.com to get started. That's danalikesgold.com and move forward with confidence.
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SPEAKER 11 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 19 :
So, a video shows a crane delivering Jeff Bezos' furniture to a penthouse after he closes down Fifth Avenue. I mean, I guess you can... That's actually pretty impressive. I think you do have to do some of that with some of the furniture if you live in some of those high-rises, but... He apparently had to shut down all of Fifth to make this happen, to deliver his furniture. And it showed it being hoisted above the intersection and lined with caution tape and all kinds of stuff. I don't know how many pieces they put up there. That cannot be cheap.
SPEAKER 11 :
Ikea makes me put it together.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know, man. It makes IKEA look kind of good, doesn't it? I'm just saying. Let's see. Also, we've got, there's Gen Z or, what is this? Drinks not in employment, education, or training. Gen Z are becoming NEETs by choice. They don't want to be employed, educated, or trained for anything. That's a thing. Yeah. I'm a little short here, but I'll make up for it next segment. Stick with us. We got more in store. Summer is all about making great memories. Backyard barbecues, road trips, lake days, even just relaxing in a hammock with a good book. Spending time with friends and family, catching sunset views. But if you're living with pain. Those future memories can be stolen from you. It's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain. So here's a thought. Try Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain. It's a doctor-developed formula made with natural ingredients. And unlike pain meds that just mask it, Relief Factor works to reduce, even eliminate, your pain for good. So whether you're spending time at the lake or chasing your kids or grandkids or just enjoying a summer stroll, Relief Factor can help you feel better, move better, and do more of what you love. Reclaim your summer. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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SPEAKER 20 :
What is your response to the fact that the president has ordered 2,000 National Guard troops to California?
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, Dana, we have a president who is moving this country rapidly into authoritarianism. This guy wants all of the power. He does not believe in the Constitution. He does not believe in the rule of law. We just celebrated a few days ago, June 6th, the American landing at Normandy, which began the invasion of Europe to defeat fascism and Nazism. Those guys died. They gave up their lives to defend democracy, not to have an all-powerful ruler in the United States of America.
SPEAKER 19 :
How is enforcing immigration law like having an all-powerful ruler in the United States of America? How is enforcing existing constitutional law that was already law and predates the election or the candidacy, even the birth of the current president, how is that in any way a fulfillment of what you're fearmongering about, Bernie Sanders? This is like brain dead commentary. If I was Dana Bash, I would have sat there and I would have asked him to fall. I would have asked him to explain that. Like, what do you mean? What are you talking about? How is enforcing law that actually predates the birth of the current president of the United States in any way like tyranny? Can you explain that? Or what would you do, Senator Sanders? How would you change the Constitution to enable or facilitate further immigration by people who enter illegally? What would you say you believe in de facto illegal immigration? I mean, I would just keep like I mean, if anything, if here's what gets me, some of these people on the left, including these people in the press, they are such zealots. They don't even care about doing good journalism or even, you know, having a good segment that goes viral because you're asking some really tough questions. I don't get that. There is nobody or no ideology, except there's nothing that I am. No, no exceptions. There is nothing, no political ideology that I am so zealous about, except maybe for two ways. I'm not, but I'm not going to cover for anybody. You know, you still grill them and ask them questions. I just can't even believe that she, I mean, that's an easy layup, Cain. Absolutely. Like, why wouldn't she even follow up? Like, what are you talking about? What about this constitutional law? What about it makes it tyrannical?
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, this is how irresponsible the Democrats don't mind being, because they understand that emotions are hot. So instead of go out there and quell the emotions, we've seen it time and time again, just in the last 24 hours, Democrats have gone out there and said, we need more in the streets. We need more of this. Trump is the bad guy here. Upholding the rule of law is somehow the bad thing. So Democrats are manufacturing this, and they're doing it 100% with the help of the media.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Oh, completely. They are. The media is not doing their due diligence at all whatsoever. I just that was embarrassing. Then she just sits there and listens to it and doesn't follow up with it. If I had a lawmaker tell me that on my program for I would be dumbfounded and I would not be able to prevent myself from going. What the ever loving redacted are you talking about? What? What do you how is what? So you think that this current law, the way that the Constitution is written is tyrannical. Can you be specific? What clause specifically? And then there's no, no, no. Senator, I'm asking you, look, what specifically you think? Do you think that Trump somehow was able to predate his own birth and manufacture this portion of the Constitution that has established this law that has existed, even predating your birth, Senator Sanders? Can you can you explain that? I just want to watch them tread before they go under and their lungs fill with stupidity. It's asinine. I mean, this is brain dead. It's brain dead. That's not journalism. That's brain dead fluff. That's all that is. Chimney Christmas. And we got this whole situation with Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Lorraine's got a very, very insightful post up that you need to read over at Chapter and Verse and Substack because he's been brought back. Now, I always think, and I know she agrees with us, that this dude had his due process. How many trials did he get? How many times did he see a judge? Three or four? At least three. And don't forget, he's a wife-beating human trafficker and he was caught red-handed trafficking people. And apparently he's, you know, he's he's got a lot. He's got two counts related to transporting illegals. That was just on the body cam footage alone. Bondi said that he was also part of that same human trafficking ring that was connected to the 2021 truck crash in Mexico that killed 50 people. Now, remember the vehicle that he was driving when he was pulled over in that body cam footage was apparently owned by the guy who like runs that whole human trafficking ring. One of his co-conspirators apparently already told investigators, Lorraine reports, that Abrego Garcia was involved with the murder of a rival gang member's mother. The women that he trafficked, he apparently abused. He apparently also solicited nude photos and videos from minors. He hasn't been charged with those yet, but apparently that came up with the investigation. Now, this is what this is what she says that I think is interesting, because I think we all agree that Kilmar Brego Garcia got his due process right. I don't really care that he was sent back. I don't care. He was sent back to El Salvador. I get him away. I don't care. And I trust that dude was going to keep him in a prison forever because that dude, everyone was talking about the El Salvadoran president. He's pretty brutal, y'all. But, you know, sometimes that works for us and I'm not objecting to it. So this is what Lorraine says. She says the real issue here is the stonewalling from the administration. So she's kind of got an issue with Bondi. And she says, you know, because of the breakup between Trump and Musk, she writes, and again, you can read this the chapter and verse. I can't help but wonder if Bondi and all of the lawyers that she's got that she's been working with at the DOJ, if they're trying to walk this very narrow pathway between the executive and judicial branches. And she says Trump has a very reasonable distrust of the judicial system. Over the past few years, he's wound up before several activist judges who actively tip the scales of justice against him. She adds, it seems that Bondi and crew don't want to anger Trump, which would explain why the DOJ is being so utterly stupid in court. So instead of just asking, apparently, this judge to send them back for a bit, they chose to play word game, she writes, and stall. And all they managed to do was anger a judge that actually is fairly reasonable, she writes. And Lorraine has done a whole series of examinations on these judges, these activist judges. So the running back, he's jailed like outside, what, 50 miles outside of Nashville. And this reasonable judge was told by the DOJ that they consider to be in compliance with her order. They got to return him and they're going to file to dismiss the case in Maryland. And Kilmar's lawyer responded by pointing out that the new grand jury indictments only happened because the government was stonewalling discovery and would not comply with the judge's orders in that Maryland case. And so Kilmar's lawyers pushing for the Maryland case to continue, not just to allow the judge to hold the government in contempt, but also because Bondi said that Kilmar would be returned to El Salvador after serving his sentence if convicted in an American jail. But the charges in Tennessee don't negate the withholding order that prevented him from being sent to his home country. And because of how the DOJ handled this case from the jump, she adds, I can't imagine the judge is going to be on their side. So that is that is an issue. That is an issue. So I think there was there was a little some missteps there by the AG. And I don't think it was necessary. I don't necessarily think it was directed by Trump. I understand what they were doing. But then at the same time, I'm also here. So we are going to hold ourselves to protocol, but we are under this assumption that he should be given more due process than the average bear in this country. Is that am I being goofy? Can't weigh in on this because I feel like I don't care. No, I mean, send his ass back.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly how you described it is exactly what it is. They want to guess.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, if they can say things like undocumented instead of illegal, then I feel like, what does it matter that some protocol was messed up? See, this is the problem, by the way, guys, of not practicing consistency before the law. The strength of the law a great part of it comes from the consistency to which it's applied. And when you do not have consistency with the law before it and under it, when it's broken, then, you know, people like me are, I will absolutely look for ways to skirt it. Oh, I'm not even going to lie. Not even going to lie. This is why you can't have me in elected office because I'm a step above anarchy. Maybe, maybe a step and a half. I will always look for ways, you know, like, oh yeah, well, it's a sending back. I don't know. I don't care about protocol or paperwork error. I really don't care. The guy's a human trafficking wife beating thug. I don't care. I don't even know why he's alive. You're a predator. You're soliciting nudie photos for minors. Why are you breathing? That's my two cents on it. I just feel like a strong message needs to be sent. What is anybody else going to do? Step off. Most powerful country in the world. Kiss my backside. Don't care. Right. That's I'm 85 percent there. I really don't care. But then I know I know I also have that little, you know, replica voice of John Adams in my head going. But I defended the Redcoats after the Boston massacre so that we could we could show our consistency in upholding the rule of law. I get it. But still. I just Lorraine adds what the DOJ should have done way back. They should have brought him back onto the judge, had the withholding removed because the rival gang that he was claiming that he was under assault from because he was in a gang is gone. What cyber? I don't care if a gang member says that they're in trouble with another gang because they're in the opposing gangs. Oh, my gosh. And she said and said the DOJ chose to jerk the judge's chain and play games. So the DOJ kind of messed kind of the DOJ mess this up is what it sounds like. It sounds like they messed this up. Are you okay over there, Kane? I can only see the top of your head rolling off your shoulders. Are you all right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, if you think this judge originally had the right for this injunction, then yeah, I guess what you're saying is correct.
SPEAKER 19 :
I just feel like if I were president, I would fax her my middle finger and be like, meh, he's gone. But you're like, Dana, you can't do that. And a Dana administrator, you think Trump is bad? Jeez. Imagine me. You guys don't even know. I don't even care about the optics. I just don't care.
SPEAKER 11 :
So you'd send those big baseball game size foam fingers that was the middle finger.
SPEAKER 19 :
I would have someone in a giant middle finger foam costume show up to the courtroom and just dance around. Like, don't care. He's gone. He's gone. Don't care. You know, I'd buy them from where the unions get the inflatable rats. That's where I'd get it. You know, I'm sure they make all those costumes, you know. But I don't know. I just.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, is this going to. So here's the deal. Where he is in El Salvador, like if he was to stay there, was that a better situation than the one he's actually getting now? Or is it worse?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, I don't know. He's going to be coming to. I would have sent that El Salvadoran president. I know he's a thug, but if he's a thug for the right reasons right now, I'm very Machiavellian. Send him a nice fruit basket.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Send him some a brisket of the month club. I'm sure one exists. Send him down some good Texas brisket.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Just saying. He's the reason why that rival gang is no longer a threat to Garcia.
SPEAKER 19 :
So I'm just saying, you know, I feel like he did him a favor. It's how you're going to return that favor. You're going to do that favor that way. It's not good. Not good. I get, you know, I'm just saying like modern problems sometimes call a cane for old solutions, you know. But I mean, I get it. And again, I know because I'm going to get email about this. I have the little John, but you know, Dana. You know, the ghost of John Adams. I defended the red coat so that we could uphold due process in our fledgling republic and show that we were serious as a breakaway sovereign entity from the monarchy. I get that little replica ghost of John Adams. I get that. But again, modern problems, old solutions, foam finger. Let's get it. We got more on the way. We got I seriously, I'm not even kidding you.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
So make sure you sign up over at Substack as well, chapter and verse. There's a lot of good stuff that goes out there regularly. And Lorraine's got a piece up about Kilmar Brego Garcia right now. And kind of the slow walking from the DOJ. And then the judge reacting the way they did with this whole case. And then we've got the ongoing peaceful protest. There's an interesting piece that I'm going to drop into later. It may be a standalone piece. If not, it's definitely going to be in your prep for tomorrow where I share the links of the stuff I'm talking about that day. And it's a Wall Street Journal piece. And it says a group backed by George Soros is going to plow millions into turning Texas blue. Now, this is like the second or third time that they've tried this. There's a book out there called The Blueprint, and it details how Democrat operatives flipped Colorado after 63 years of Republican administration to blue and just two election cycles. The same people were involved in trying to do that to Texas, but they met a lot of resistance. So now a Soros financed group is going to try again because they haven't won any statewide races, really. since 1994. But they're trying to make some gains in the state legislature. Of course, it doesn't help that you have a bunch of rhinos down in Austin, Texas, that are facilitating this by making these Democrats chairs of committees that they do not have the numbers technically in the legislature to even command. So it is a very good read. And you need to be on the lookout, especially if you're in a red state. You need to be on the lookout for this happening in your state. Don't think that you're safe because you're not. In the meantime, today in stupidity came.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's L.A.' 's attorney general. Well, it's California's attorney general is what we should say, because you would think he'd be upset about the people throwing fire and rocks and stuff at police. But apparently this is his focus. Juan, go right ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
An order that abused the federal government's authority and violated the 10th Amendment and federal law. An order that skipped over multiple rational, common sense, strategic steps that should have been deployed to quell unrest and prevent escalation. As a result, I, in partnership with Governor Gavin Newsom, are suing President Trump and asking the court to set aside
SPEAKER 11 :
The person who's actually working to restore law and order in California because California leaders aren't doing it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Can those business owners sue him for the destruction of their businesses?
SPEAKER 11 :
I bet you they should. I don't know if they could.
SPEAKER 19 :
Can like residents who have been affected negatively by the violence and the destruction, can they sue the city of L.A. for failing to do anything to contain it?
SPEAKER 11 :
How many times in the past and how far back can they go?
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, that's a great question. I am scheduled to be on with Waters tonight. Jesse Waters, Waters World. You can watch Facebook for updates on that. In the meantime, find us Substack, Chapter Inverse, Facebook, YouTube, like and subscribe. I'll be back with you tomorrow.
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In this episode of Sportsman of Colorado, host Scott Whatley tackles one of the most overlooked dangers in outdoor sports: hearing loss. Dr. Melissa Fling of Custom Ear Solutions returns to the show to explain how shooting sports can permanently damage hearing and how to prevent it. They discuss myths about suppressors, the importance of double protection, and hearing safety for kids. Later, Scott visits the new world headquarters of LT Arms in Littleton, Colorado, to talk long-range shooting, gunsmithing, reloading classes, and estate firearms with Kyle and the team. Then, Billy Paddock from Outdoorsman’s Attic shares how consignment can help sportsmen gear up affordably while decluttering unused equipment. It's a jam-packed hour of advice, gear, and expert insight for Colorado's outdoor community.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome to Sportsman Colorado. Thank you so much for being with us today. Hey, we've got a great show in store for you. Once again, congrats to all those that were successful in the draw. And a second draw coming soon, and we'll see how that goes as well. But hey, today we're going to talk about something that is super important. And unfortunately, if you're in my age range, after 60, you grew up hunting and shooting. you probably were not aware of how damaging our sport we love in hunting and shooting can be to our ears. And we welcome Dr. Melissa Fling, our exclusive audiologist here for Sportsman of Colorado and Haystack Health Radio. She owns Custom Ear Solutions. Her number is 720-839-7705. Dr. Fling, thanks for being with us. Hi, Scott. I'm still going to get you to a range, all right? So in the next couple weeks, I know I say that every time, but I want to get you to a range where you can kind of really get an idea of what all. Then that's going to give you a big insight and say, boy.
SPEAKER 02 :
Can we do an outdoor range? I'm scared of the indoor ones.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know, because I've got a feeling your ears are very sensitive.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, they are. That's why I'm afraid.
SPEAKER 05 :
There are some guns that go up, and there are some times that I jump, because you're just not expecting it. But it is pretty loud. But let's give one tip real quick here. If you're in a range, and we're going to talk about your products, But there's nothing wrong with double protection. You've said that before, using some of your products possibly and then using your muffs, right?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Double is so important with indoor because probably as everybody can tell when they're doing indoor shooting, it's louder than it is outdoor because the sound reverberates and bounces off the walls. So it makes it louder, which means it's more dangerous and you need more protection. So ear molds or ear plugs and muffs over it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. What have you seen? You've been to a couple of our expos and different things. You've talked to people in the outdoors a little bit here. I think there's so many myths out there because a lot of people think, hey, if I'm behind the person shooting or five or six yards away, the sound's not – I mean, it is still a loud thing for our ears, isn't it?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, definitely. I always think that anybody that's standing by, no matter how far – I mean, at a certain point, obviously, you won't need it. But if you're standing nearby – it could be loud enough for you to, I mean, at, so the person that's shooting at their ear, it depends what the firearm is, but it could be up to 160, 170 DB sound pressure level. Um, And so it could potentially be still up to like 120 if you're standing just a few feet away. And that can still do instant damage. So bystanders also need to wear hearing protection.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And we talked about a few weeks ago, we did a great show on suppressors and silencers and all. And there are some things even now where those may get to a point where we don't have to go through such a special process and we can just get them over the counter. But I fear sometimes people think, Well, good night. Man, if I got a suppressor, I don't even need to wear hearing protection.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that would be a bad myth because that's not true.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, that's a myth. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I think it's always needed. I mean, really, when it comes down to it, firearm use is not safe for your hearing, no matter if you have a suppressor and hearing protection. So you'll still have dangerous exposure. But... If you don't use either of those things, it's far more dangerous and will do damage much faster. So even with a suppressor, it's always important to still wear hearing protection. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
So let's break down your products here, and especially we'll talk now. You'll hear Melissa on our Haystack Help Show. She's on Wednesdays at 1230 with us. And, of course, you'll hear her on Sportsman of Colorado, too. Let's kind of break down what you feel are your best products for those in the outdoors.
SPEAKER 02 :
So solid ear molds for maximum hearing protection. And that could be for indoor shooting, like we talked about. Or if you're like in an industrial setting where you do not need to be aware of your surroundings or communicate, solid ear molds would be the best option for that. If you do need to communicate or you want to be able to hear between shots, then we could look at some type of filtered custom ear mold.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that's what I have.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's what you have. And I love those. Yep. You've got impulse filters in yours, which will allow you to hear fairly. It still takes a little bit away from your hearing. I mean, what's your experience with that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, no. I mean... I can understand guys when they're talking and things. We were actually pheasant hunting in Kansas. So I don't know, 30 yards or so, 40 yards, another hunter may be away. But I could understand them, okay, at that distance. But it was nice when the shot rang that it wasn't as before.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, yes. So filtered could be a good option for hunting where you need to hear between shots, work situations where you need protection but still need to be able to communicate somewhat effectively with people. Filtered is also good for water activities, swimming, surfing, whitewater rafting. If you're with a group of people and you want to have some awareness and be able to communicate, then we could do a filtered water ear mold filter. And what was the – tell me again the question. I lost my train of thought.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, what we were talking about, what do you feel in your products would be great for shooters and hunters?
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, yes, yes. Yeah, so it would be either the solid ear molds, filtered ear molds. Electronic is also an option if you need some amplification, if you're trying to listen to the game, or if you have some hearing loss, amplified electronic products. hearing protection would be a good option. So it'll offer the same thing that a filtered ear mold would. It will compress on a shot, but it will amplify between shots and make it so you can hear soft sounds more easily.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Yeah. And your solid ones, approximately costing?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, those are 160 for the pair. Filtered will be a little more. Those will be more like 260 for the pair. And then there is the cost of doing impressions on your ears as well, which is 25 per ear. So if we're doing both ears, it would be 50. And that would be in addition to the cost of the ear molds. Now, one thing that I can offer is... Once I do the impressions, I'll scan them and convert them into digital files and I'll have that file indefinitely. So we don't have to repeat the impressions every time you want a new pair of ear molds. I'll already have those scans and those are good for about up to five years after which your ears might start to change a little bit.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And I honestly think everybody needs at least two of what you mentioned. The solid.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 05 :
We are in ranges here. I don't need to talk to the guy next door. I don't even know him. You know what I mean? So you just want that maximum protection and then getting the filter type. you know as a win-win to you yeah as well and then so if you got 125 dollars um for your your awesome hearing exam i mean to spend you know three five hundred bucks let's say yep be totally protected yep and know where you're at with your hearing that's a pretty good investment in your health to me
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and it'll make the difference for you in the long term.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because you know what? Hearing aids ain't no $500 hearing aids. You know what I mean? Seriously, right?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, those are a little more expensive.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, man, to spend, you know, I'll just say it, spend $500 to protect what you've got. I'm telling you, you don't want to wait. And unfortunately, as I said at the beginning of the segment, growing up, I never even thought about this as a teenager and stuff. Shot a ton. And even, you know, early adult years a lot in shooting guns and letting my kid put a gun on his shoulder so it would be steady and then letting him pull the trigger, you know. And I stick my finger in my ear, which probably didn't do a lot, you know. And now the tinnitus rings. yes 24 7 never shuts off so hey if you're not there yet don't get there i promise you uh you don't want that for sure um and your hearing test we can break that down a little bit um that that is not only just a traditional beeps if you've had a testing for i remember with mine um also some audio some voices and different things and just how you understand some verbiage right
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, yeah. It's testing the softest volume that you can understand speech. Then we test how you understand speech at conversational level in quiet, and then how you understand speech when there's background noise.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Do you find that from shooters, is it across the board, whether it's their high-pitched hearing they lose or the low end of the spectrum they lose from shooting? Is it hard to tell that?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, it's almost always the high pitch end.
SPEAKER 05 :
The female end where we can hear our wives, right? We can hear an elk from like four miles away bugling, but honey, come in the garage. I couldn't hear you.
SPEAKER 02 :
You're going to get me in trouble with the wives, Scott. Yeah, that is. Well, you know what? Actually, when we look at where speech sounds fall in terms of their pitch and how loud they're spoken, you know, vowels and consonants, the ones that are in the higher pitch range, somewhere between two and eight thousand hertz are K, S, T, F. TH, those sounds are beginnings and endings of words. And that's exactly why when you start to lose some hearing sensitivity in that area, you start to perceive that people aren't talking clearly or they're mumbling because you're not quite picking up on those really subtle consonant sounds. So I'm going to comment on the wives' voices. Yeah. No, but that does happen. It's very common for people with hearing loss to feel like they don't understand women as well. We just don't have as much power and volume to our voices. And it's not so much the pitch of women's voices that's a problem. It's more the power and the volume. We don't have the same power behind our voices. So that's a problem for a lot of people with hearing loss, women included. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Once again, it is Custom Ear Solutions, 720-839-7705. When you call, let her know you heard her here on Sportsman of Colorado. We would appreciate that as well. And as I mentioned, hey, $125 for a great hearing exam. She doesn't take insurance, but again, if you have an HSA account, something like that, she can work with you there. But then the whole idea with custom is it's a perfect fit. And if you've messed around with these foam plugs, anything you do is better than nothing. But most of us, and I've seen people at Rangers, and I've told you this before, Do not know how to insert the foam here. You know, and I look over and there are three, four sticking out of their ear. You know, they just think, oh, I'm protecting my hearing. You're not. So, you know, when you've got something that's custom, it's a true fit. It's going to do its job for you there. I never thought about this just while we were talking. It's a little off the topic. But as far as children go. At what age should people bring kids in to get hearing tested just to see where they are, even as smaller children?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, that's a good question. Well, for the most part, it's already built into the system. So unless they get caught – so, well, let me back up. So when they're born, they have a newborn hearing screening. Okay. Most of them pass that. If they don't pass it, they'll have a retest. If they fail that test, then they'll go on to see an audiologist for a diagnostic hearing evaluation. And then we'll go from there. So if hearing loss is identified, then they'll see an audiologist potentially for a hearing aid fitting, right? And they'll be monitored closely throughout their childhood until they're an adult. So if they pass their newborn hearing screening, There are milestones, you know, that children will have as they develop. And it's partly the parent's job and the pediatrician's job to pay attention to those milestones and make sure that they're meeting those milestones. If they're not, then sometimes hearing is the issue. And then the pediatrician will refer to an audiologist for testing. Once they get into school, then they're screened pretty regularly. I want to say every three years, roughly, through high school. I mean, I even remember having hearing screening probably my sophomore or junior year of high school. You know, they just come in and put you in a quiet room, put the earphones on and have you raise your hand for the beeps, and then you're done, you know. And so kids are screened pretty much all throughout their public schooling. I don't know if that differs in private schooling. I wouldn't think it does. But anyway, so kids are pretty well monitored. But I would say between birth... And school, it is more the parent's job and the pediatrician's job to kind of keep an eye on milestones and get them in to get a hearing test if something's not quite right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And last minute here, but I would think if you're a family that shoots together, and I know tons of families that do that. Don't just think the ear muffs are enough for you or your child, as we kind of talked about the double protection. So I would think, if nothing else, getting children made these little small molds, the solid ones for them, then the ear protection with the muffs would be really good for them, too.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and we can do that. Now, their ears obviously are growing very quickly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure, sure.
SPEAKER 02 :
So they'll have to be replaced more often. So if you didn't want to do custom, then you could get foam earplugs and just trim them down much smaller and put those in and then muffs over. And that's a good point. Yeah, if you're going to have infants as bystanders, they've got to have double hearing protection. Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Dr. Flynn, thank you. Always a pleasure to have you in. 720-839-7705 is the number. And when you call, like I say, hey, get an appointment. And I don't want to say don't go for just a hearing protection because that's the whole purpose of the show. But I'm telling you, it's better for you to get the hearing exam, especially if you hadn't had one in a while. When's the last time you had one? Think about it right now. If you can't remember, it's probably time for one, all right? And she'll get you fixed up. Again, mention you heard her on the show, and we will thank you for that. This is Sportsman of Colorado. We've got to take a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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KLZ 560, your home station.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for being with us today. Hey, we've got a jam-packed show for you. And just a quick reminder, if we miss our show here on Saturdays, 1 to 2, you can catch us twice on Sundays. That's from 8 to 9 a.m., 8 to 9 p.m. Then the following Thursday is also 9 to 10 a.m. And hopefully one of those times will work out for you. And, of course, our podcast is on our website, sportsmanofcolorado.com. And, of course, wherever you get your podcast, you can find us there as well. Well, we are actually once again at the new world headquarters for LT Arms over here in Littleton. That's right. New world headquarters across the street from the old one. 8130 Schaefer Parkway, Unit C. When you come by. Pretty sure it will be the only building with an elk on the window, all right? If you come by and you see three elk on a window, call us, because that means there's elk over here. But, hey, seriously, great new store, and we are proud to say they are open for business. So, Kyle, we'll start with you, the owner. How are you?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm doing good. Thanks for coming out, you know, seeing the new shop. I really like it. I mean, it's great. Great to have the space, and we can offer so much more to our clientele.
SPEAKER 05 :
You guys, and I said this before we came on air, but I've never seen – I came over here just a couple weeks ago, man. You were putting the flooring in here. I mean, there was really nothing in here. The next time I come over, the whole gunsmith – Folks are already in here with some huge equipment. You know, I mean, that took a lot to move. How come we're today and it's a complete store like you've been here for six months already? Yep.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's a lot of work. Yeah. Well, you know, a lot of us are pretty tired, but we get the work done and get it turned around so that our customers can come and not miss a beat. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So what your mission and your customer experience here when people walk in the door? What do you have? I mean, it's come to fruition. I can tell you that. But I mean, what did you really want when people walk in the door at LT Army?
SPEAKER 14 :
So I wanted a nice, warm, inviting place for people to come to spend time and just, you know, get away from the craziness of life. Nothing beats coming to a gun shop and just, you know, talking about your hunting trips or, you know, guns and stuff like that. Just being able to relax and talk to nice, knowledgeable people. Yeah. Have you found some nice ones?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm still working on that. Yeah. And I'm going to try to keep these two guys awake that are with us here, yeah, because they have been busting it. For sure. And kind of give us a virtual tour. You walk in the door. Kind of explain your layout.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, so when you walk in the door, it opens into kind of our main showroom area where you can find accessories, ammo, apparel, all that kind of stuff. And then off to the left, we have our nice gun library and then our reloading room where we teach classes and have – the option for people to rent our reloading benches and then you go over to the right and one of the things that I really like is we have a vault door and you walk into our vault room and you can look at all the guns that are in there it's a great experience for people it's kind of something unique that I haven't seen in any other shop so I kind of wanted to have that option for people yeah and I mean there's some nice guns in there man yeah I just look through there wow Yep. That's a cool look. Yeah, we try to keep a nice, good inventory in stock. And a lot of the old antique firearms that are in there, we do estate purchases and all that. So it's a great option to offer to people. And we get some really cool guns in by doing that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And also in that room, you kind of give an inside look to your gunsmith area. Big glass wall there, which is cool to let people see what's going on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, exactly. And that's one of the things is people don't realize that we are a full service gunsmith shop. Everything from, you know, repairs to complete custom builds, we can do it. And so having that option to see the work being done just lets people know that the only limitation is your imagination.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow, that's so cool. Once again, it's LT Arms, 8130 Schaefer Parkway, Unit C. And in all seriousness, there is a really nice bull elk painted on the window, so you'll know you're in the right spot. All right, Evan, let's talk to you here, sir, a little bit. How are you? Great, Scott. How you been? Good, man. Every time I come in, man, you're always busy working on rifles and cartridges and all this stuff. Something's going on here all the time. Is that your real passion is the whole cartridge thing?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the reloading aspect and getting things tuned in for performance and accuracy. That's kind of my pet project.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good deal. And you're helping me get something set up. I got a new rifle, and so I'm interested to watch your process and see your process. And just to see how that works, because I've never done that before. So this is a cool experience for me, too. It'll be fun. We'll have a good time with it. Yeah, we're looking forward to it. So let's talk about that. And you do some classes, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we do reloading classes. A lot of folks are wanting to get reloaded. And factory ammo is as good as it's ever been. We've talked about this before. But a lot of people want to just kind of get something really tuned in using a particular bullet that the manufacturers of ammo might not be using. So, you know, custom bullets that aren't offered by the major manufacturers, they want to use that bullet. Their only option is to hand load. So we teach them how to do that. We also just basically use 101 level. If you want to learn what it's like to hand load ammunition, that's what we do. We sit down at the bench and we hand load ammunition and you can get a hands-on experience.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Do you help people as well, like if they don't have any equipment? Do you help them find kind of that equipment and tell them what to buy and stuff like that?
SPEAKER 08 :
We've got kits available, but also people like they already kind of know what they want. So we'll assemble that for them and then they can purchase kind of the kit that they custom built for themselves.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or all the components. I know over the last few years, it's been crazy with ammo, you know, but all the components of powder and primers and has all that stuff pretty much readily available.
SPEAKER 08 :
Things are loosening up really nice. Yeah, production's back up. We're starting to see large rifle primers for the first time in four years. We've got a good primer selection. We've got a good powder selection. Yeah, brass has become pretty plentiful again, so things are going really well. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, can they get all that just shipped to their house, you know, as far as components like that, or do they have to get stuff shipped?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no. Components are just metal. It's just bullets and brass are just metal. You can order them from any of the manufacturers. They'll ship them right to your home.
SPEAKER 05 :
Cool. All right. Good deal. All right, Mr. Brandon, how are you? Good. How are you doing? Good, man. All right. You were telling me a little bit before we came on air here, precision shooting is one big thing. That's another area you guys focus on here. Are you seeing a lot of guys? I mean, Evan can comment on this as well, but that's a pretty big sector growing all the time, isn't it?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, the guys doing the long-range stuff like ELR competitions and things like that, it kind of goes hand-in-hand with what he's doing with the classes, and we're going to kind of ramp that up and try and get people in here that are doing long-range shooting out past 1,000 yards, and we have a couple guys that work for us that have gotten into that recently, and so we're going to be ramping that up and... getting more of those long-distance guys in here and teaching classes based around that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Does that start in a classroom kind of deal just to educate a little bit, or does that start out on a range somewhere? I mean, when you talk about classes, what does that look like?
SPEAKER 15 :
Kind of both. The basis for the ammo loading is in the classroom, but then after you kind of figure out bouncing between the range and the classroom, figuring out what loads work best for your rifle, we're doing a custom build in shop that is going to be a long distance rifle so yeah you kind of have to go in between the range and the and the reloading bench and figure out what load works best for the gun you're using and dial everything in and you can take one of our one of our gunsmiths just did a four day class up in Wyoming that
SPEAKER 05 :
was from the ground up like shooting out you know starting out short distance and working his way out to about 1500 yards so wow yeah yeah because there's a lot that goes into that long range shooting right i mean yeah you got the gun aspect ammo aspect um
SPEAKER 08 :
you know thermals wind i mean just learning how to dope wind learning how to elevate learning how to dial in your scope and ballistics and calculators and all those there's lots of technology now you used to just have to kind of wing it kentucky windage they called it yeah yeah but now you got a lot of really nice tools that help you do it and uh there's some there's some extremely long shots being made accurately it's a really exciting time to be in the game yeah absolutely yeah
SPEAKER 14 :
And one of the biggest things is the ballistics behind it. I mean, everyone says, oh, I want to shoot long distance and all that. But what really keeps people interested in it is the ballistics because there's – I mean, if you're a numbers guy and like to geek out about all this stuff, it is amazing what you have to look into and all that, the – What's your bullet doing at certain yardages and how is it changing? You have to try and fine-tune the ballistics of the cartridge so that you can get out past that mile-long shot and everything.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's crazy when you stop a mile. Yeah. I mean, what are ranges around here if people enter a long range? What are some good ranges to go to that can stretch out, you know, that 6, 7, 8, or 1,000 or other places like that?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think Colorado Rifle Club has gone out past 1,000 yards now, but that's where a lot of the competitions are held on this side of the hill on the western slope, the Cameo Shooting Center there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's awesome.
SPEAKER 08 :
That place, you want to do it, you can do it there. It's fantastic. You can go out just thousands and thousands of yards out there in the desert.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. sometime we ought to try to put together some sportsman of colorado day you know seriously where we could say hey if you want to come here's the cost whatever you know we can meet and caravan up or something and just have a day or so up there that'd be really cool man once again we're at lt arms hey the doors are open and again if you've already been here um throughout the last few years just directly across the street so not far 81 30 schaefer parkway unit c And Kyle, what are your hours?
SPEAKER 14 :
So Monday through Friday is 10 to 7. And then Saturday is 10 to 4. 10 to 4.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Now, we mentioned full service store. So let's kind of run through what all that means. Typical words we hear, buy a sale trade, top deals, consignment, but then also transfers, guns. I mean.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if it has to do with the we even go past the firearms industry. So I like to tell people we are a one stop shop for everything hunting related. So we also touch on other stuff, too. But as far as the firearms, everything to get you outfitted for your hunt. we can easily help you with that. And then when you're done with your hunt, we have a taxidermist here in shop that will take care of all of your, you know, trophy needs. And so that's, that's one of the nice things that I like to tell people is we are the place to go to for your hunting needs. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And we're working on a freezer and processing. Okay. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It really is cool. And Keith, uh, Of course, he's done stuff for me through the years, too, formerly of Hunter T's Taxidermy. And Keith's done a great job, been known around here in the area for a long time. And it is cool that you can come in here and really get some infield experience, you know, and you can talk to Keith even before the hunt. And that's what I tell people all the time, man. Get all those questions answered before you go, you know. Come in and visit with Keith, visit with Evan Brand and these guys. Figure out, you know, like I say, get your rifle set first, of course, with ammo and things like that. But then if you've got questions about taxidermy, even field dressing some things, proper care in the field, you know, Keith's a taxidermist, not a magician, all right? So, I mean, you've got to take care of your animals in the field, too, and he can help you with any tips maybe there. Now, you just brought up something, too, where you're geared toward hunting. This is something that I see different from most stores in the Denver area. A lot of times you walk in and you kind of feel like you're in an army surplus store or something. You know what I mean? You know, guys wearing, you know, eight, ten magazines around their hip and, you know, like they're about to get robbed or something. I don't know. But here's super relaxed atmosphere. But yet, man, you do have that hunting flavor.
SPEAKER 14 :
you know really good at that but then you've got the other things too yeah we touch on everything firearm related i mean we'll build you your custom ar that you want uh we have a ton of guys that's their bread and butter they love doing that stuff and then as far as you know old vintage firearms we can restore all of them for you put them back to you know how they were in their pristine condition and you know as far as handguns we have a huge selection of handguns for people to select from so we touch on everything it's just the hunting market was hurting in the Colorado area so we want to focus on that but we do touch on everything else there isn't anything we can't get our hands on right right this suppressor movement yeah is looking pretty exciting I mean what do you what are you guys hearing on on that Yeah, I mean, the nice part about that bill is it's tied into all the other bills that if it doesn't pass, there's going to be a lot of people mad. And so that's one of the nice things there. And since it's already, you know, passed, you know, a few of the, you know, criterias makes it super nice.
SPEAKER 05 :
Man, I mean, I can't imagine what it would be like to just walk in and buy a suppressor and be done. And it's so funny. My friends from Africa were here, you know, for Mile High Hunting Fish Expo we did back in April. And they can just walk in and do that, you know.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I'm just like, man, that's the way it should be. Yeah, I mean, it's just an accessory beyond, you know, it goes on a gun, but it's not a gun, and they get treated like they're more dangerous than guns. Yeah, you go to other countries where, you know, it's extremely hard to get a gun. I know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, they can only own, like, so many guns, but, oh, you can get suppressors.
SPEAKER 15 :
But you're almost required to use them, yeah. It's really weird. We have it kind of backwards here.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, right. And that's one of the crazy things is... In other countries, you are legally required to use a suppressor to hunt. In the States, you're not, and it's kind of hard to use it to hunt. But once you use one, you're never going to want to go back. Oh, yeah. Because that's, I mean, it is such a game changer in the hunting world.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, to be honest with you, most people, if you ask them, hey, can you use a suppressor hunting in Colorado? No, no, that's against the law.
SPEAKER 14 :
Most people think that. Yep. Yep. And that's one of the crazy things is we partnered with a research department testing muzzle brakes and suppressors and all that. And one of the things that we found out in this research is that your muzzle brakes cause brain damage. Dude, that's what's wrong with me, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
Son.
SPEAKER 14 :
And so as far as hunting with a muzzle brake, it's not good. It cuts back on recoil, but it just destroys your hearing and everything else. It's just not safe. And so having a suppressor makes it so much better because you get the recoil mitigation. But you also get these safe hearing. And you still need to wear hearing protection with suppressors, but it just makes it that much better. So you get the best of both worlds without having to destroy your ears.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I think we've all been in those situations, whether you're a bird hunter or whatever. But just standing next to a buddy and when he shoots and, you know, you're not really thinking about it. And I'll say, wham. And, man, I mean, there's some big rock. You can feel the ground shake. It feels like you can feel like you're at a rock concert and your chest is, you know, going in and out. I mean, just that reverberation. And then once it hits, man, I do a show, Dr. Melissa Fling, Custom Air Solutions. And, man, once that hits and all of a sudden you get that high pitch ring in your ear. Man, you could be, you know, done for. You got it for life sometimes. It's damage, yeah. LT Arms, 8130 Schaefer Parkway, Unit C. Hey, come by. Let them know you heard them here on Sportsman of Colorado, and we'd appreciate that as well. Now, we mentioned the full-service door consignments, and we mentioned kind of some estate buys. And, I mean, you just picked up a nice one the guys were telling me and showing me some of the guns there. But kind of explain how consignments work and then what we call estate buys, and I'll let you explain that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, so I mean, as far as all that, we are happy to look at anyone's estate. Some people keep better records than others, and so that makes it hard for the widow or the family that is left behind. to truly know what their, you know, ancestor had or their father or their husband had. And so we like to go in and kind of evaluate stuff for people, give them, you know, top dollar or what they could get and stuff like that. And then we'll kind of, you know, help them through the process, explain to them, hey, you know, you could try and sell them all yourself here. You could sell them to your friends and family. This is what the value of this firearm is. But a lot of the times people just want to, you know, unload the headache. And so we'll take it in on consignment or we'll buy it outright depending on what the people are wanting. But as far as consignment, 20% is what we offer for consignment. We'll do all the legwork at getting them sold and all that. And once it sells, we write you a check. That's the best way to do it, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
You don't want to be running something on Facebook Marketplace if you're going to get by with that now. And then what, are you going to have people come to your house to look at your guns that you don't know? Exactly. And getting all the paperwork done. So absolutely the safest way to do it. Any other type classes we want to mention that you guys either are offering or are soon to be or anything like that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, so some of the classes – I mean, we offer our concealed carry classes and all that and everything, reloading classes. But some of the fun classes that we're going to start offering is kind of more – Less lethal stuff, scenario situation classes of how to react, and also first aid classes is some of the stuff we're going to start offering here in-house. We're trying to, right now, build out a nice classroom. We're holding a few classes a month, and so it would be a nice place to have people come and just... learn more about the industry and better things the you know the biggest problem we have in the gun industry is the lack of knowledge yeah so the more knowledge-based we can have our classes to help people in the industry understand more the better off the industry will be and you know what i mean i hate to say this and i'm not knocking big box stores but i have found through the years here all these last few years especially since covid you walk into these big box stores
SPEAKER 05 :
Dude, they know nothing about the counter behind their work. I mean, the counter behind their work.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's alarming, for sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I'm like, dude, how could you not know? I mean, I'm there to ask you a question because I don't know. But, dude, you work here. I mean, they just don't know. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Again, to further elaborate on Kyle's statement, really, education is everything. The more you know, the safer you are and the better you are with your firearm. Sure. One of the ones that we really enjoy doing right here in the gunsmiths is an hour with a gunsmith. We offer an hour with a gunsmith. You've just taken possession of your first firearm. You've taken a class on how to use it, but you really don't, you know. The manual of arms is great, but you don't know how to maintain it. You don't know how to break it down, how to field strip it, things like that. So you can come in here and take an hour with one of our gunsmiths, and they will take you all the way through field stripping your new 1911, for example, showing you the proper way to clean it, showing you how everything goes together and how things work. Again, you're understanding functionality. You're also going to understand how that thing works in your hand better. It just makes you a better shot, a better marksman, a better gun owner ultimately.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely. Well, gentlemen, this has been fun. Hey, hope you guys get some sleep over the weekend. All right. This slave driver that you guys got for a boss here. No, I'm kidding. No, you guys done well, man. I'm telling you, it is super impressive. And so I can't wait to start getting a lot of our listeners over here to see you guys. And folks are going to be with us. Hey, the first of every month is our goal. Now, could something happen where we might be the second Saturday of the month? But Hey, you can look for them on the first Saturday of every month here to be on Sportsman of Colorado. But more importantly, get over here and see them and let them know that we sent you. And once again, we'd appreciate that. So, Kyle, thanks for having us out. And, Heaven, thank you, sir. Thank you, Scott. Brandon, thank you as well. You're listening to Sportsman of Colorado. We've got to hit a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to the show. Hey, always good to have our good friend Billy Paddock with us. It is the Outdoorsman's Attic 2650 West Hamden. Now, Billy's been with us for years since we started, really, our shows. But if you haven't heard him, this... is a great concept he came up with it is a consignment store for the outdoors now let me define outdoors that's hunting fishing camping all right none of the the golf or anything like that it is strictly hunting fishing and camping gear billy always good to have you on how are you sir
SPEAKER 16 :
Good. I appreciate that disclaimer. It's not like I don't like golf and all that kind of stuff. But if I don't do it, I can't sell it because I don't feel comfortable telling people about it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, no, no doubt.
SPEAKER 16 :
No key gear, no golf. There's plenty of shops out there. But yeah, hiking, fishing, that kind of thing. We're all about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Man, no doubt. You know, it is something. Buddy and I, we were talking that day, just all the gear that you accumulate as a sportsman. And you kind of look back at things and you're like, why did I buy this? And then the big thing I run into a lot of times, I can't find something. So then I go buy it knowing I had one. And then I find myself with two. So a lot of things can go on there. But let's approach the consignment side first of things in just gear and whether that's hunting, camping, fishing, and just kind of tell people how all that works.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, so, I mean, we're not high pressure here. You know, we're a family business. Most of your listeners probably know that by now. But I don't try to make things harder than they really are. So you bring your stuff in. We set you up with a consignment account. um, you know, to kind of go through your stuff. We want stuff that's usable guys. If it, if you're not going to use it out there, chances are somebody else isn't either. So no funky smelling, you know, tents and no, no ripped pair of pants. Um, you know, we want usable stuff. That being said, everybody's got that kind of stuff, you know, like to what you mentioned earlier, guys go in and out of stuff all the time. You know, I, I thought that I was going to be a fly fisherman. I found out it wasn't for me. I get frustrated. So I had all that junk and everything. And so you bring it into a shop like mine. We sell it for you. We get some money back. More importantly, you get to go and use that money or find something else that you really like to do. It's a good outlet for that kind of thing. Because every year, everybody looks through the magazines and goes, I've got to have that part. A lot of times that stuff doesn't work out for people. Our shop's a great way to get introduced into those kind of sports too. A typical guy, I just talked to a guy earlier this week, he just dropped $1,000 on a bunch of fly fishing stuff. And he's like, oh man, I wish I would have known. I just picked this up and He walks into my shop. I probably could have outfitted four guys.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I started to say, yeah, $1,000 goes a long way at your store.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it does. It does. And so, you know, even on the fence, guys, you know, if you're just thinking about getting into elk hunting, you know, come into my shop. You know, the clothing gets expensive so quickly. You know, another great outlet is kid stuff. You know, kids' camo, you know, kids' fishing stuff, kids' waders, you know. Those kids aren't going to stay that size. There's no sense in spending $200 on a set of waders for a kid that's going to wear them for maybe three trips. That being said, if you've got kid gear, bring it in because we're always starving for that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 05 :
That'd be a huge sector, man, that really needs help. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, and I mean, you know, going forward, I mean, even like muzzleloading, that's getting hot again because you guys are getting kind of frustrated with some of the draws. And if you got muzzleloading stuff and you tried it, you decided it's not for you, bring it in. We can turn it into cash for you. and get it in front of somebody else that's going to use it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And, you know, a lot of times, too, man, fabric shrinks. In other words, our sizes change. And I've got some things that, you know, used to fit different. I'll just put it that way. And a lot of times this stuff, you know, is gently used, you can say. Oh, yeah. You know?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. You know, I'm guilty of it. I always say that my arms get longer. And so... long sleeve shirts and me never work out. And so my wife's like, gosh, what are you going to do with all this stuff? So I just bring it over to the shop and resell it. But I mean, that's true. You know, this clothing stuff, a lot of the stuff that I get in is real lightly used. Guys, we're all gear junkies. We all like the greatest, best thing that, you know, blah, blah, blah, that the neighbor has. But at the same time, the fish, the birds, the You know, the elk, nobody's looking at the labels, guys. They're not trying to see if you got the 2025 camo pattern. Yeah. You know, don't let that fool you. And so you come into a shop like mine, you save a buck, and you still get, you know, you still get good results.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely. And once again, it's located at 2650 West Hamden. And what are your hours, Billy?
SPEAKER 16 :
And so Tuesday through Friday, we're here from, well, I'm usually here by 8. We're here until a little after 5, depending on if it's a little slow out there. We might go and play hooky, and I might go try to drop a line somewhere. And then on Saturdays, we're from 9 to 4. We're closed on Sundays and Mondays. I've got to get out and play, too. I'm sick of hearing all the stories about everybody else going out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
SPEAKER 16 :
And fishing and hunting. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, you know, just kind of thinking the last time I was in, I mean, man, if people are in the market for packs, man, you've got a big selection. You've got sleeping bags down. I mean, folks, this is something. There's an upstairs and a downstairs now when you go. So how do you describe the best way for people to get to you there off that service road?
SPEAKER 16 :
So we're just, you know, a lot of old-timers know the building as the old camera trader building. That was around since dirt was invented. We're in that building. We're basically between Santa Fe and Federal on 285. Okay. Everybody thinks it's a frontage road that's just north of Hampton there. It's actually Hampton Avenue.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
You'll see the back of the building up against 285. It's got a giant purple mountain on it. You know, that's us there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And once again, folks, fishing, hunting, camping gear, and if you've got some things that, you know, hey, you're just not using anymore, I'm telling you, it's a lot better than trying to do Facebook Marketplace and some of these other things. um apps that may be out there you can take it into billy hey he'll help you price it reasonably where it'll sell and um like i say it's a great way to uh make some extra bucks or hey what i do is just end up buying something else there that ends up being a really really good deal because bill i mean i've seen things through the years i mean and quite often that's brand new in a package dude oh yeah i mean i mean we we've got a ton of ammo the reloading stuff is always hot if you
SPEAKER 16 :
If you've decided to back off of reloading, bring it in because I've got guys daily coming in and just buying everything that I have for reloading. So I'm starving for reloading supplies. And so you're going to get a premium for that. You know, the ammo, you know, it's all new stuff. You know, the fishing stuff, guys go in and out of fishing all the time. Right. Tents, wall tents. You know, the draw is going to be coming up here pretty quick.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amen. Going through your stuff and thinking, okay, do I want to? Still be in this tent or do I want another one? Bring it into the shop, guys. You know, this is a good time of year for me to – I say that the store always kind of swells up after the wives start going through our closets and going, you know what, you're not going to fit that. I want to park my car in the garage kind of thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now's the time to do it, guys.
SPEAKER 05 :
And like you said, man, for families to come in, you know, and you got kids and you need to buy them some fishing gear, you need to get them some things. As Billy said, hey, their sizes are definitely not going to stay long. And, hey, there's a great selection in there of different things, and it can change day to day. I mean, this is actually a store, honestly, you can go in two, three times a week, and you will see different things every time you come in. And, Billy, it's got to be a fun deal. You know, I used to watch some of those pawn shop deals on TV when people bring stuff in. I mean, every time that the bell goes off and the front door opens, you never know what's going to walk in there that somebody wants to sell, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. It's crazy, the stuff. And, you know, I've learned a lot over the years, too. I thought that I knew everything. Oh, sure. Um, I mean, some, some of the best knowledge that I get are from my customers. You know, they bring in something that I've never seen before and they have to explain it to me. And then not five minutes later, one guy comes in and says, I've been looking for that for years and buys it and out the door happier than anything, you know? same thing with scotty our gunsmith downstairs you know he's a wealth of knowledge for me sure um and i mean he's just turning and burning right now um guys are bringing in a ton of stuff so right right and you got live bait too right we do yep yep uh ice fishing guys i i don't know what happened but we had good ice and then it quickly disappeared here in town but um the yep the mount lakes are still looking good so we still got plenty ice up there but Yeah, we go through a ton of bait and a ton of fishing stuff here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Once again, Billy Paddock is our guest. It's the Outdoorsman's Attic, 2650 West Hampton. Hey, when you go in, let them know you heard them here on the show. And you'll hear them on our Haystack show. You'll hear them on Sportsman of Colorado. But Billy has been one of our great supporters since we first started. And I just walked in one day and said, hey, I'm going to start a radio show. And they were kind enough to help me. um have been just just terrific um personal friends great partners for us here on the show helped a lot of our listeners and um i love the stories billy i think last year a couple times you had people listen and they were passing through town going to hunt and and swung in and bought something so that's good yeah you know and it works both ways scott it really does i mean you've truly been a help to the shop you know i love you guys you've
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, all your listeners have been great. And make sure you drop his name because you never know. I might be in a good mood.
SPEAKER 05 :
You won't charge him more, right, if they say Scott sent me?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, you're one of the few that if you drop Scott's name or the show and everything, you're going to get a discount. I promise I won't upcharge you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, man, we appreciate it. And, again, it's the Outdoorsman's Attic, 2650 West Hampton. So get by and see Billy again. Tell him I sent you, and they'll take great care of you. And if you've got some things, hey, taking up your garage space, closet space, go through it, get it over to Billy, and turn it into cash. So, Billy, I know you're busy, man. We appreciate it, and I'll get over and see you soon.
SPEAKER 16 :
Guys, thank you very much.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Thank you. Thanks for being with us today. Hope you have a great rest of your day. Leave it right here on KLZ 560.
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Amidst a backdrop of unrest in Los Angeles, this episode dissects the escalating conflict between state and federal powers. Governor Gavin Newsom's threat of legal action against President Trump is central to the discussion, with insights into the historical context of the Insurrection Act of 1807. As protests consume the streets, Sekulow callers and social media commenters contribute their perspectives, transforming the episode into an interactive forum. From calls for more law enforcement to debates on sanctuary cities and the role of media, the episode manages to encapsulate the multifaceted layers of the crisis with expert commentary from Rick Grinnell and other political analysts.
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After a chaotic weekend, President Trump pushes back on Gavin Newsom's lawsuit threat over the L.A. riots.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekula.
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Welcome to Sekula. Will Haynes is joining me here in studio. This is Logan Sekula. Rick Rennell will be on the broadcast later on. One of our favorite Californians. He'll discuss what's going on in Los Angeles. Obviously, it was a big weekend in L.A. And for a lot of us, you may have been watching. I was watching late night coverage of what was going on, even up until the early hours yesterday morning. or this morning. I guess it was late last night, including car chases and the chaos that was breaking out in Los Angeles. And then, you know, we're seeing some of the footage right now. And look, it's horrifying. What you're seeing right there, I was on those streets two weeks ago, three weeks ago, uh, as you see a lot of those Waymo, the, uh, you know, the automated cars being destroyed, uh, that was interesting that that became the target. Those are the cars that are autonomous, do not have drivers. So I guess they felt maybe that, uh, you know, less of a soul to burn in that. Uh, but it was chaos, uh, in certain areas. Now, look, I think we have to always keep in mind the scale of what we're actually seeing here. When you zoomed out and they showed sort of the big picture of LA, it did seem like it was happening in pockets, but some of that is because they sent in, you know, essentially combatants, whether that's from the local governments, the local police force, And then obviously the federal side of this to say, hey, we may need more protection in here. And some of it, as Will and I were watching last night, we were watching local L.A. news, which I thought was a fascinating version of it. They were talking about a lot of the issues coming from the lack of police.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. They were talking about how there were budget constraints on LAPD and the L.A. County Sheriff's Department. And some of these things were making it worse. That was the coverage that the local news was giving at the same time. Governor Newsom had said that President Trump had manufactured a crisis and was in flaming conditions. This is in reference to him activating and federalizing National Guard to go and help out with the situation that had become worse over several days. Gavin Newsom is saying that they will be filing a federal lawsuit against the Trump administration today, and we'll get into some of that as well today. But Carolyn Leavitt, the press secretary, pushed back on Gavin Newsom's claims that Donald Trump had manufactured the crisis and he can't solve it and we will. And she said this on X, Gavin Newsom did nothing as violent riots erupted in Los Angeles for days. federal law enforcement officers were attacked by violent radicals and illegal criminals waving foreign flags because Governor Newsom was too weak to protect the city. As the Los Angeles police chief has even said, the riots were getting out of hand. President Trump has stepped in to maintain law and order and protect federal buildings. But there are big questions when the president of the United States uses the National Guard or military for policing civil unrest, as we're seeing here. Generally, the Posse Comitatus Act is something that forbids the use of military from enforcing civil law. But there are always exceptions. And we're going to get into that. But that's what the crux of this lawsuit threat from Governor Newsom is going to be around. So I think our listeners need to hear what the law says, what the options are here, and kind of how it can potentially go forward. And we'll get into all of that today in the next segment.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. We will. Our phone lines are down right now, but we are working on it as we speak. So right now, if you're trying to call, unfortunately, you're not getting through. But I'm going to ask you to move those into YouTube comments, into Rumble comments. We'll try to pull some questions or comments directly from there right now. And I'll let you know once our phone lines are back operating. Apologies. I know a lot of you want to call in on Monday. But unfortunately, sometimes we have some technical issues and they're down right now. Share this broadcast with your friends if you care to as well. We're going to really break down not only the implications of what's happening in Los Angeles, but around the country and how we are going to look at this, not only as people who respect law and order, if you will, but also those that are Christians. I know there's a lot of people who feel like they're being pulled in many different directions. Let's discuss that. coming up in the next segment what do you think how do you feel about not just the riots because the riots i think we can uh isolate a little bit and talk about the real truth behind what's going on there but even the issue overall we'll be right back Welcome back to Sekulow. Like I said, phone lines are actually down right now, so we're going to be taking comments through our social media feeds. So if you find one on YouTube, if you have a comment, feel free to put it on. If you're watching on YouTube, if you're watching on Rumble, put a comment in there, and we'll do our best to get to as many of those as we can throughout the rest of the hour. Look, we've got to look at what's going on holistically in Los Angeles and what's holistically happening around the country. You do have to look at the riots and say, how much of this is real? How much of this is media making it a bigger deal? And also, How much of it is being inflamed by people that are not there for the right reasons or even for even say the right reasons, even there for the cause. And you can honestly tell you can kind of look at the crowd and go, that person cares about immigration. That person is there to cause chaos. It's a lot of the similar visuals that we saw in 2020. which is there were people who I think were protesting for the reasons that they felt they were passionate about. And I don't take anything away from them. Same way I feel about people who are protesting this. I don't necessarily have to agree with them always, but that is not what we're seeing on the streets. What you're seeing is destruction, rioting, all of the sort of boxes that you can check for this to be a moment of being exploitive and of a protest of a um demonstration it's not always it just becomes uh spray painting and violence and looting and and it goes well beyond the issue at hand and the issue at hand of course is about immigration and ice and like i i can understand the genuine feeling That you feel like people that have been here in this country for many years, even if they're here illegally, that are peaceful, who have been living their lives, who have been raising their families here, who have been working in jobs, feeling like they're getting rounded up and sent out of this country. I don't love that. I'll be honest, I don't feel good about that. Now, when it comes to people who are here illegally and are also violent criminals, sure, I don't have a problem with that. And I think a lot of people would have a problem, not have a problem with that. But the lines get blurry and the lines get blurry specifically when you are trying to what they've honestly kind of quote what President Trump and and what Pete Hegseth have been saying, which is really to kind of clean up the streets, if you will, to try to deport as many people as possible. I don't know if that's the best method. We've been saying for years on this broadcast, we believed in a comprehensive immigration reform. I still think getting to this country and becoming a legal tax paying immigrant citizen, or even just the steps to become a citizen is, is, yeah, that's where I wish Elon Musk had come in and clean that up as well. Cause it's a bit archaic. It's, it's not easy. It shouldn't be easy, but it's certainly not clear. And you have a lot of people who are now protesting this saying we need to – there's the writing in the streets as they wave the Mexican flag, as they wave then also Palestinian flags. And that's where it starts to become like, okay, what are we actually saying here? The protests are against Trump or are they against ICE or are they – it just becomes conflated once again. But look, I think President Trump – Got to get this to get to get it chilled out a little bit yesterday. Got to get a hold on this, though. People do not like to see this in their streets, even in cities. They sure are maybe known for a bit more high crime rate, but still they don't want to see that in Los Angeles. Like I said, I was there three weeks ago and did not feel that way.
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Well, here's the big question that comes down to is, will this lawsuit that Gavin Newsom has put forward, will it stop the use of the National Guard in this situation? And one, to that point of the narrative that they're just going around and rounding up people, the Department of Homeland Security put out a list of people that over the last week have been detained by ICE. Someone convicted of second-degree murder. Yeah. illegal immigrant that was convicted of that. Some of these charges, I cannot read on air what these people had done to people in the United States while they're here illegally. It's grotesque. It's terrible. A lot of violence, a lot of very horrible crimes. So it's not just that one narrative. They are doing what Tom Homan has said, is that they are going to first go after the worst of the worst. and try to get a handle on what is seen by many people in this country that voted for this, that this is rounding up and getting rid of the people here that are doing horrible things and shouldn't have been here in the first place. But the big question goes back to can the president even do this? Can he send the National Guard? Legally. legally can he legally do this and and it's kind of an untested waters at this point as many things within the last time national guard was done like something like this was under kennedy i believe there there were some that it was used in this way where governors of some southern states were not allowing the integration of universities And so therefore the president, because the governor was not allowing the enforcement of federal law, sent the National Guard there. So some of that during the civil rights era, the National Guard was used in this way outside of the normal channel where the governor can request the president to federalize the National Guard to help with disaster relief. If there is an out of control riot, it was used at the request of the governor after the Rodney King riots in 92 during George H.W. Bush. And so the National Guard was used there, but it was in conjunction with the governor. What we have here is where normally the National Guard is under the governor's control. But under Title 10, all forces at the end of the day are under the commander in chief. So can the president direct the National Guard outside of the governor's control, federalize them, so to speak? And what it comes down to is actually an interesting title from 1807. It was the Insurrection Act of 1807. We're going that far back. But that is a part of Title 10, which is how the armed forces are to be conducted under federal law. in this it says the use of militia and armed forces to enforce federal authority whenever the president considers that unlawful obstructions combinations or assemblages or rebellion against the authority of the united states make it impractical to enforce the laws of the united states in any state by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings he may call into federal service such of the militia of any state and use such of the armed forces as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or suppress the rebellion what the president is saying here is that under this title that this is a rebellion their entire purpose is not just to be heard but it is to stop ice enforcement the enforcement of federal law and the governor of that state is not on board with helping the president ensure that federal law is being carried out.
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We know he has his own political motives. We know Gavin Newsom has been someone who has been flirting with running for president for how many years now, debated Ron DeSantis. I mean, remember, all of that's happened only in the last, what, 18 months that all of that has happened. So you have a guy who is out there who is somehow largely becoming more popular, it feels like, over the time. Had his podcast where he's like, I'm going to talk to Charlie Kirk. My son's a big Charlie Kirk fan. I'm going to have a lot of these interesting conversations. I think those are good moves from a political standpoint. This one is going to be interesting to see how it plays out. I think for Democrats, and look, I've seen this even from the pro-Israel crowd, because a lot of those are Democrats, saying, you know, I believe we've gone too far, that maybe there needs to be a pause to this ICE situation until we can figure out how to not escalated to this point. Cause you may not. And you say, look, we got some great, you know, people off the, off the streets, people that were doing horrible things. And, you know, you gotta give it up to the department for doing that. But we have seen some blunders. We've seen some mistakes. We've seen some hiccups in this as you are going to, when you have any sort of situation like this, where, where people were either wrongfully detained or held or, and there does get that word, that feeling does come in, uh, that tugs at your heartstrings. Now, I see a lot of people saying, well, it's not about that. It's about the law. Right, but I'm talking about when you're trying to galvanize a base and even galvanize a liberal base, a Democrat base. When you're trying to galvanize a Democrat base, you want to be the rebellion. You want to be there. And look, I think Americans want to be the rebellion. We see that. Like, you empathize with them. You feel for a rebellion because you know that's, in the back of our heads, that's America. America was founded on some form of rebellion. Now, this is obviously not what we're talking about,
SPEAKER 03 :
The imagery here, I don't know if a lot of Americans are empathizing with when they're burning American flags in the street, sending cars on fire, throwing rocks at police officers and waving Mexican flags.
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Our audience will not, is not. I'm talking about a liberal California base. I think they are. I think they do see that there's a good and a bad. And I think to them, and some of that is Gavin Newsom presenting that, which is good. The people, maybe we don't want them to be violent. They'll say no violence, of course, but they don't do anything about it. they want that, that imagery. Cause they also want to see a pushback on president Trump. They want to see president Trump's campaign promises fail or have issues. And I think, look, you can see that. You can see that with their response. I saw one person that put up a post and I got to give it to one of my friends who reshared it. It was much more liberal than I am saying, you know, Obama deported so many more people. We were even better at that. And it's like, Okay, well, that goes against your entire narrative of what we're talking about here. He's like, we deported three million. He only could deport two and a half million. It's like, okay, that is where it's, that is the Trump issue, which is everything Trump does is bad. And look, we can even do it better. We can commit the atrocity of which we say is an atrocity even worse. ridiculous phone lines are not open for you because they're still down i do want to get to some comments coming up and a few of you put in some comments also president trump uh just made a statement on truth social we'll read that to you when we get back rick grinnell will be joining us and of course if you want to support the work of the aclj you know today we're talking about the news but there's a lot of great work happening in the aclj and i want to talk directly to our aclj champions i want to tell you that you're the reason we could take on some of the biggest fights in this country right now not just defending clients but defending freedom so right now We're defending, as we said, peaceful pro-life advocates on the streets that are being criminally targeted. We're battling the Supreme Court to stop rogue judges from stripping away presidential authority. And we are suing to protect Christian clubs and public schools once again back in the news. That's it. Stand with us. Become a champion right now if you haven't already. If you have, thank you. Welcome back to Sekulow. Hey, it looks like our phone line situation has been fixed. So if you want to call in, great time to do it. 1-800-684-3110. We should test to see. Let's go to Ann who's calling in Pennsylvania. Try it out. She's watching on Facebook. Ann, welcome to the broadcast.
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Oh, hey, guys. Love you guys. Yeah. I just wanted to say the Insurrection Act of 1807 absolutely gives the president the right to deploy the military, to deploy the National Guard. There's a lot of violent protesting going on. Our Constitution states very detailed that you must peacefully protest. People are being hurt. Cops are being—their cars are being set on fire. The president has broad powers and discretion on also military matters. The president has the right to send in federal troops. When the states, the governors, and the mayors force the police officers to stand down, this is our way of being able to protect and serve the American people. Their protection is of the utmost importance. If the president has no executive authority privilege to be able to deploy the National Guard or the military in circumstances where there is an emergency taking place, where these states are denying the protection of the people. He absolutely has full discretion to be able to do this. And this is constitutional. It's constitutional. I love you guys.
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And I think what the argument in court is going to be from the state of California when they try to block the president from doing this, is they're going to argue that. what the president did didn't rise to the definition under the insurrection act of 1807 and they're also going to probably argue that in his memorandum he did not cite that that was the reason however i think you can read uh section 252 this is from uh the Title 10 of the U.S. Code, Chapter 13, where it says whenever the president considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations or assemblages or rebellion against the authority of the United States make it impractical to enforce the laws, that then they can use that. But then you also have to look at what the president said in the memorandum to the secretary of defense, the attorney general and the secretary of Homeland Security. In addition, violent protests threaten the security of and significant damage to federal immigration detention facilities and other federal property. To the extent that the protest or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the United States government of the United States. That is using the language of of the Insurrection Act, which was codified under Title 10 of the U.S. Code. So it's using the language, but I also wonder if the state of California will try to pick that apart and say, they didn't say under the authority given to me by Title 10 of the U.S. Code, Chapter 13, Subsection 252. So this is going to have a fight in court, and it's in California, in a federal court. So now we're going to see if they file this lawsuit today, if a district judge puts an injunction against the use of the National Guard in L.A. This has become what was a dangerous situation is now become a huge political fight between someone who wants to be president of the United States and someone who currently is president of the United States. And they're going to be arguing over executive power.
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And heading into a midterm, it also does change the way we look at the National Guard. You know, that could fundamentally change the way they could be used. You always hear, and I think that's why, you know, we live in a pretty peaceful country overall. If you think about, in a grand scheme of things, if we were to take this to the Middle East, if we were to take this to China, any other areas of the world, we live in a pretty peaceful country. uh united states of america we're split politically but though there is violence on the streets and it's getting worse and worse and trust me uh i i feel it it's still overall we've always heard send in the national guard it's almost a joke you know that Sentence is like a funny catchphrase that people say, what do you do, send in the National Guard? So now when it's actually time to send in the National Guard, we honestly, it feels like mentally we can't handle it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and to some degree as well as conservatives. One thing that we aren't a big proponent of is martial law. And when you're using the military to carry out law enforcement, that is a form of, if not directly, a martial law situation. Obviously, it's not nationwide. It's not everything. But we also need to be careful about that and the precedent it can set. Now, when you see a governor that is saying that they've got it under control, When the entire protest and riot is not against his police force, it's against the federal government trying to carry out and faithfully execute the laws. That is a different situation than what we saw in 2020 because those were a response to local police action and it went across the country. This is directly trying to stop the enforcement of federal law and under that definition of rebellion that is cited I think it is very clearly a form of rebellion. Now that will get fought in the courts. I don't have high hopes that they will not get some sort of temporary restraining order from a district judge in California if they so file that. But that is what we're going to see here. And now we're potentially going to have a Supreme Court fight about the Insurrection Act of 1807 and how it can be used and how the National Guard can be deployed. This could change the tone of how we even say that term. It's a little school-based.
SPEAKER 10 :
send in the national guard because once again these are things that genuine generally had not been done except for in very limited cases like it's like a sentence that we say that we don't even know you could do uh let's go to i mean we know you could do it but you know what i'm saying doesn't get done very often let's go to gilbert who's calling in nevada gilbert you're an aclj champion means you get bumped to the front of the line and first i just want to tell you thank you uh because people like you are the backbone of this organization so thank you but go ahead with your comments
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, yeah, it's common. I agree with your brother, Jay, Brother Logan, and all your brothers. I thank you very much for your program. And I do listen to 90.1 FM in Vegas. And thank you very much. I agree with you all the way. If people are citizens here that's got their home, they've got their kids in school, they've got a job, I think they should definitely stay. I don't see them trying to get a Social Security with the USCIS. But the other ones, the vagrants, the ones that are the traffickers and murderers and killers and you name it, drug dealers, cartel, they should go. I agree. I just want to let you know. So I know you're in a hurry. So I just wanted to make a comment. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 10 :
I appreciate that. And that's why I was trying to kind of get the tone of what people were feeling online and on the phones. And as I think as Christians, we want to help the least of these. We want to always help people who are in need and want to help the poor, help the immigrants. We all are immigrants from somewhere, you know, not that far back. We're a very young country. So in general, none of us have been here all that long. Some of the native Americans, but none of us have been here. So I think there is a natural want to help. Now, what does that look like? I think when you have a situation at hand and I'm not saying there's an easy answer, certainly there's not an easy answer because we would have had every other president who has made these campaign promises actually fix this problem, fix what's going on at the border. You know, actually make immigration something that we encourage, but properly. And how do you make this difference between someone who has been here for decades, who has been a good citizen, has been a good citizen to their community, but maybe not originally got here legally? And how do you make the difference between them and someone who's committed murder or child trafficking or trafficking of drugs? I do think we need to figure that out. Because this chaos can't spread all across the United States. Phone lines are open for you now. Again, they are back up. So 1-800-684-3110. That's it for the first half hour. Second half hour coming up. Become an ACLJ champion if you can. If you don't get us on your local station, find us broadcasting live now on ACLJ.org. And all of your favorite podcast players. We'll be right back. keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo and now your host logan seculo we do have a statement from president trump that we will read to you in just a moment uh it is uh pretty long so i'll make sure we have the time to do it of course responding to what's happening in los angeles as those riots which have seemed to have calmed down some uh really reached a peak over the weekend We're also following, you know, the story out of Israel right now where you had Greta Thunberg. She had a what they call it, the selfie selfie selfie. The IDF had to essentially intercept as they were heading into Gaza with less than even one truckload of humanitarian aid. This is the global problem here, everybody. Do I think we should be getting humanitarian aid into Gaza? Absolutely. I think we need to be helping people out. I think we need to be helping starving children. I think that that shouldn't even be a question. Do I think we need to make these cartoon characters into some kind of hero? And this is the issue we have. And you see the pictures that came out of that and you saw her very happy. It seemed to be being intercepted and they handed plenty of water and food and sandwiches all from the Israeli defense forces. So again, the show crumbles very quickly. This is where we actually need real help and not social media help. This is where the performative side of it, you know, some people have said that there is, you know, philanthropy issues online because it's all about me, me, me. It never becomes about the people at hand. This is like the number one. that i've ever seen people have gone after mr beast mr beast because he i don't know decided let's uh let's let's cure thousands of people of blindness let's build wells across sure i'll do a video on it that video the ad revenue then goes to support this great i got no problem with that i think people go after him are absolutely ridiculous for that specific reason But this where you have Greta Thunberg and friends loading up a boat to try to sail to Gaza. I mean, it doesn't even sound fun. It just sounds like a publicity stunt. And that is exactly what it was. And of course, that is at the same time that California is having so many issues. And our next segment, Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us. And Rick obviously has been someone who has been an advocate for probably the biggest advocate for the state of California that I know, especially on the conservative side. So I can't wait to hear from him and get his feedback and thoughts because he's someone who's living there and dealing with it and whether we're seeing this being overblown or whatever it may be. Here is a statement from President Trump. This was just posted just minutes ago. He said, we made a great decision in sending the National Guard to deal with the violent, instigated riots in California. If we had not done so, Los Angeles would have been completely obliterated. The very incompetent governor, Gavin Newscum, and Mayor Karen Bass, again, these are his words, not mine, should be saying, thank you, President Trump. You are so wonderful. We would be nothing without you, sir. Instead, they chose to lie to the people of California and America by saying that we weren't needed. And these were peaceful protests. Just look at one picture or video of the violence and destruction that tells you all you need to know. We will always do what is needed to keep our citizens safe so we can together make America great again. So kind of a traditional Trump statement. statement throwing some insults in there flipping uh some uh thoughts towards you know some some catchphrases some names um overall just saying look if you if you strip away the trumpiness of that post what it really reads is we had to do it to protect the citizens we had to send in the national guard i wish they were thanking us instead of making us the villains
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and he also raises that many of these people have been saying these were peaceful protests. You even saw a statement out of the former vice president's office, Kamala Harris, that said, you know, these demonstrations in defense of our immigrant neighbors have been overwhelmingly peaceful. They're redoing the meme of the fiery but mostly peaceful that CNN, I think, lost every last bit of credibility they had in that moment during the 2020 riots that these are fiery but mostly peaceful. The moment that they are throwing cinder blocks at police or shooting fireworks at police and it's going unchecked and they're setting cars on fire, that's no longer peaceful. That is causing property damage, potential life-threatening damage. They're throwing bird scooters off overpasses at police cars. That's not peaceful. I don't care if half the people aren't doing it or what numbers are. That isn't peaceful when that's now being fostered and your presence on that is giving cover for those of them that are not peaceful. So the whole thing becomes not peaceful.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, when we get back, peaceful, not peaceful. We'll be back with Rick Grinnell, one of California's finest, and he'll be on in the next segment here. He's been an ACLJ contributor for many years, and we usually love his advice and his thoughts, and this one is going to be perfect. So we'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. Rick Grinnell is joining us right now. And Rick, obviously someone who California is very close to your heart and, you know, a bit of part of your life for a very long time. I wanted to get your feedback on this because we see a lot of comments coming in. A lot of mixed feelings. Obviously, no one wants to see violence on the streets of California. But there's also people who, you know, their heartstrings are being tugged for people that feel like their families are being pulled away from them. But again, a lot of this comes from Gavin Newsom and what's going on in California. And it feels political once again in nature. It doesn't feel like a protest that has the right heart behind it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, first of all, if you're protesting some sort of policy that's protected speech, we welcome that in America. We celebrate that in America. But that doesn't mean that you throw bricks from an overpass onto ICE cars. It doesn't mean that you stand in front of moving vehicles. This can be extremely dangerous. And so what I would say is we welcome peaceful protests. Of course, this is America. But at the end of the day, you can't stop what law enforcement is trying to do, which is to keep our streets safe. I'm in Washington, D.C. now. I just came back from California last night. I live in Los Angeles. And, you know, my neighbors, people are freaking out. They don't want to see riots. We just got through the fires. And we have communities that have been upended. My community is flooded with people from Pacific Palisades who are trying to start over and start a new life. And their kids had to go to new schools and they still are not in. It's devastating to these families. And all of us in the community know that these individuals are hurting. And so we all feel it. outraged, they're mad that somehow we're trying to bring in more law enforcement officials. I think what President Trump is trying to do is send in more of the good guys, more people that want to calm the situation down. And I don't understand how Gavin Newsom thinks that sending in more police is somehow antagonistic. The only way that you can think that sending in more police is antagonistic is if you hate the police. If you're somebody who doesn't want law enforcement, and by the way, Gavin Newsom is the author and creator of Sanctuary Cities and States. This is a term that sounds so nice, but at the end of the day, it's a wink to say you get to decide which federal law you follow, which federal law you don't. And you get to live in our city and we're not going to punish you and you get to pick and choose. It's an attack on the rule of law. And so I think having more police officers, more law enforcement officials is a good thing when there's riots going on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Rick, how much do you think of this Gavin Newsom thing? Like you said, even the sanctuary cities, all the things that he's done over the last few years. And then, of course, he had a podcast where all of a sudden he's talking to conservatives and saying, Charlie Kirk, you know, my son loves you, all these things. How much of this is politics? I honestly look at what he says and go, I don't know if you even believe what you're saying here. It's not even like a Bernie Sanders who I disagree with on almost everything. But I'm like, I think that guy believes what he's saying. Gavin Newsom just feels like he's always one step ahead in terms of where his political future is going and trying to kind of keep up with that tide.
SPEAKER 02 :
Look, between the hair, the voice and the motions, the guy is a total robot who just everything is politics. He's the most inauthentic person in politics today. There's just no question about it. He will say anything and do anything. And he does this faux outrage and he's, you know, on MSNBC beating his chest. I mean, I just can't imagine that Gavin Newsom works in Michigan or Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. The idea that he's going to run for president, which he is because everything is politics with him. And he's never been vetted, by the way, in California. He's never been vetted by the California media. They just celebrate him and all Democrats. So as soon as California Democrats get on the national stage and they get looked at publicly, by media, by real journalists. They all implode because they haven't been vetted for decades.
SPEAKER 03 :
And, Rick, I think when you look at the politics of this and the way it's already playing out is they haven't learned lessons from the past when we saw in 2020 the riots that took over the country that were in towns that had nothing to do with what happened in Minnesota with George Floyd that were getting... millions of dollars of damage, people losing their businesses, losing their livelihood that had nothing to do with what took place. And the CNN meme of the fiery but mostly peaceful, you're already seeing Kamala Harris saying these are overwhelmingly peaceful. You're hearing Karen Bass parrot that. When we see what's happening and the moment that these things go from being a march and a peaceful assembly, which is what the Constitution allows for and protects, to firebombing, throwing bricks, having pallets of bricks show up out of nowhere on street corners where there doesn't seem to be any construction. We know this game and we've seen it before, but we also hear people like Senator Chris Murphy saying, saying that this should be the moment that everyone realizes they need to be in the streets across this country, calling for more of this. How do they think that this is rehabilitating the brand of their party, which was so utterly rebuked over this very issue just a few months ago?
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, when you put Karen Bass, Kamala Harris, and Gavin Newsom on one side of any issue, common sense is on the other side. And so many Californians know that. They're so tired of this. I actually think they're helping fix California because they're all together and they're screaming about the same issue and they don't want more law enforcement officials, they want fewer, and they want people in the streets. And common sense Californians are tired of it. They know after the fires that this crowd was ill-prepared. They've given us policies like less water, They've killed desalinization plants. They've given us policies that when it comes to forest management are atrocious. We can't clear the forest bed of dead trees and dead bushes. This is a tinderbox. that is literally going to, in a hot, dry weather, happen all over again. We're going to have wildfires and we still don't have enough water because the water is not in the reserves. This crowd is totally incompetent. And Californians know that. And when they see now them advocate for fewer law enforcement officials during a riot, they say, well, there you go again.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think we should actually, Rick, while you're on the air real quick, take this call. We have Michelle, who is an ACLJ champion, who is in California, and she has some thoughts, and I wanted to give her a chance to weigh in as well. Michelle, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, thank you. Okay, so I watched what was going on yesterday on a live stream, because I don't look at mainstream media because they lie, and it reminded me totally of the BLM riots. The police were absolutely standing down, and the situation escalated over literally hours. The police vehicles on the 101 freeway should never have been destroyed. The little cars, the electric cars, should never have been burned. They burned one at a time. There was no police presence there whatsoever. If the police had been allowed to do their job and disperse the crowd in the beginning, none of this would have happened. This is all on Karen Bass. And the last thing, I hope the FBI gets involved and finds and prosecutes all these people who broke the law.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, Rick, I'll let you respond to that. Because I think a lot of people also see the sort of liberal talking points coming out going, hey, don't let them tell you that there are riots happening in LA. These are isolated. These are small. This isn't actually happening. Don't look over there. You're just seeing a small group. Hey, we're going to follow one car chase. It'll be fine. What do you say that, though, to Michelle, who's calling in again, an ACLJ supporter and a Californian?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, first of all, for those of us who live in Los Angeles, we know that this is a very real riot and multiple riots. It's happening. Our city already is mismanagement when it comes to fire, water and homelessness and taxes. Michelle is right. We need some sort of fire. federal response to punish these individuals, whether it's DOJ or the FBI. We can't just point out all of these individuals that are fanning the flames of lawlessness. We need to prosecute people so that it doesn't happen again. The California common sense voter and citizen is so tired of this. I really believe that we are going to see in the next election, someone like Karen Bass completely defeated, someone like Gavin Newsom completely defeated because people want common sense leadership. They want people who are gonna solve problems. And right now, California and specifically Los Angeles is getting worse, not better.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you, Rick, for joining us. I appreciate it. Rick Grinnell, obviously a great member here at the ACLJ, always been someone who is just incredible to hear his feedback and thoughts. And, of course, at the Kennedy Center right now, heading up to Kennedy Center. I was looking at the Tonys last night. I was like, is Rick there? I don't think Rick is there. But we are going to have in the next segment your phone calls. And we haven't got any right now. I'm just going to be honest. The first three segments, the phone lines were down. So usually we get it. You have people on hold. We get ready. Pat will start going after me saying, I don't know, take him in time. That means we got right now six open lines and one more segment. So call in right now at 1-800-684-3110 with your feedback, with your thoughts, your comments over your weekend. What happened? Make it short. Make it sweet. Let's get you screened up. Let's get you on the air. Coming up in the next segment, because I always like to hear from you all over the planet. Once again, 1-800-684-3110. And before we go to break, once again, I want to thank you for being an ACLJ champion. It means a lot. We'll have some breaking ACLJ news later on in the week. I can't wait to share with you. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back to Sekulow. We only have two lines open right now, but we are still screening those calls, so it's going to take a minute for the first caller to get up, but we'll get them up in just a second. Stay on hold if you're on hold right now. Again, I wanted to let you know that the ACLJ is hard at work. We will, and I just got off of right before this broadcast, a call with our legal team, which we do every week, where they give us an update on all the big wins, what's going on. What any new cases, any updates? And there are some really great ones that sometimes we can't share all the information with you in the moment, but no, there's some really good things on the horizon right now. And you've been standing with the ACLJ for a long time. Many of you for decades. And I wanted to tell you that I appreciate it. And when we rolled out the champions campaign just a few years ago, where you could become a recurring monthly member, because look, the ACLJ was built honestly on individual donations, not by big sponsors, not by a big giant corporate sponsors or even large donors. I mean, yes, there are some amazing large donors. I want to thank them. But the, the basis of it was individual donations. Now we're able to build a baseline with not only individual donations, but but with people who give on a monthly recurring basis who become ACLJ champions. So we know going into a month, at least we have an idea of where we're headed, where we can set our budgets and where you want our money to be spent. So when you give and you donate, you may say, hey, we can tell if it's on this kind of show or if it's on another show or what topics that you care about. When you become an ACLJ champion, you can also download the ACLJ app and it tells you, hey, what are these are most important to you? That's a lot of data for us to be able to look at and go, okay, what do our members actually want? What do our champions actually want? And it's a really great part of sort of the way the new media, we're not just picking in thin air. Hopefully you'll like this. But also because we're not controlled by major sponsors, or a network, we can also tell you the truth. We can say whatever we want, within realm, within reason. we're able to say essentially how we feel. And that's been today's show, which has been really interesting to watch all the comments come in. Because again, there is two kind of sides to this, your heart and your head going, okay, I believe we should not have people here illegally who are breaking the law. And then you have people, and we certainly shouldn't have riots and protests and violence. The other side of people going, well, we need to be helping the least of these. We need to making sure people that want to be here for the right reasons have a way to get here. And all of a sudden you have this interesting split. And I love seeing in the comments that conversation happened. You can't do that on most mainstream news outlets. We can't have nuanced conversations, but let's go ahead and take a first phone call. Let's go to Vince. Who's calling in New York online three. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 05 :
How are you guys doing today? Pretty good. Vince, go ahead. Um, I agree with Trump that he should send in the national guard, that he should stop the violence, uh, My only concern is the precedent that it sets in a future liberal administration. Could they use this to somehow start like a federal police force?
SPEAKER 10 :
Vince, I think these are always the real issues. Will and I talk about this. You have to look at the unintended consequences of a lot of the decisions coming out of the Trump White House, which is what does it look like in three years if there's a Democrat president?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think to some degree, you'll hear from the Gavin Newsom's and the politicians on the left. They're saying this is a fascist move. This is the act of an authoritarian. But then when you read the memo from President Trump and you see what's going on and he talks about what is happening constitutes a form of rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States, because these protests weren't just to make their voices heard. The goal was to stop violence. the faithful execution of federal immigration laws by the Department of Homeland Security, ICE, and the like. And so there is a very valid point, and I'm sure this is going to be fought in court, that the president is making about that as a rebellion under the law, under multiple different laws, both the Insurrection Act of 1807 as well, as other Title 10 uses of the military, that he can make that case. And now, once again, though, it should be something that is rare. This shouldn't be something where we see the National Guard is always deployed anytime there is something like this because of the potential future consequences. Right now, at least according to the White House and the way that they are putting this forward, it I think you can make the good argument they are doing this legally through statutes that are on the book and the way that the commander-in-chief can operate. It should be rare. We are seeing this unfold this way. There is definitely going to be legal challenges to it. But I don't want it to move outside of... well, it's not really a rebellion and they're not trying to faithfully execute. We just don't like this protest and there are no cars on fire. They aren't trying to hinder police activity. They are just using their voices. That is the concern that also could be used by a future administration. A little like China.
SPEAKER 10 :
Let's go to George, who's calling. George in Georgia. He's ACLJ champion. My home state of Georgia. Go ahead, George.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, good afternoon, gentlemen. I really appreciate your program. I've been a long-time listener. The one thing that It really bothered me. I've had this conversation with family members. It's often, we will say, well, someone got here illegally, but now they're a member of society. They are family members. They have families here, but we have families in America that are broken up every day. If one breaks the law and that family member, the father of someone there is sent to prison because of what they've done. And then they say, well, remove the worst of the worst. But if you hear illegally, then that means you're already a criminal, a lawbreaker, if I understand the law correctly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, George, I mean, you're not wrong. It doesn't mean that people don't have different points of view on that, because I understand what you're saying, and I don't think you're wrong in the sense of going, yes, they came here illegally, therefore they have broken the law, therefore they are a criminal. Sure, absolutely. But you are talking about tens of millions of people at this point. So now we also have to figure out what that looks like. It's not like you could just throw everyone in jail. And I honestly don't think you can deport all of these people. So what does it look like? President Trump is trying a different approach. Look, I think it's good to start trying different things differently. As we know, previous attempts have failed. But George, I appreciate your comments so much. I definitely appreciate your ongoing support. Let's take one last call for the day. Christine in California. Good way to end the call or end the show today is to go to California and hear from you. Christine, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, good morning. Yeah, I just kind of said all I had to say. And you actually answered some of my questions. The protests are so huge. We have to come back and answer back with the National Guard and different things because this is unprecedented. And when the National Guard was called in, I could sleep at night. It gave me a ton of peace. It's amazing. I mean, it's out in my backyard. And it's just so disruptive. And also, I do believe that the Democrats and the mainstream media are using the same old playbook. They're using compassion as a weapon against. To me, it feels like the conservatives and the Republicans and to come against Trump on this. First of all, I believe the president has a duty to protect the American people, not just a right, a duty. So this is, it needed to be done. And I'm really mad at Newsom right now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Christine, California, I appreciate it. Only cutting you off because we only got a minute left, Will. And we want to encourage people to become ACLJ champions today because as we head into the end of the show, it's always good to take a look at what we're doing at ACLJ.org. Look at how you can give, obviously financially, monthly, but you can also look at some of the great free content we have on there.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. As well as our legal team is even looking at this, trying to see what state FOIA angle we can take to find out if there were stand down orders from the governor or from the mayor within California. And so our legal team continues. And when you stand with us, it gives us that opportunity, the ability to keep fighting. not just for our clients, not just for the people that have been told, you can't pray here, you can't do this, you can't have your Bible club, but for the Constitution and for everyone in America's freedom. And that's what we fight for every day. And you as a champion, when you stand with us, you give us that ability and opportunity. Join today.
