HR2 A Republic to Keep: Preserving the Wisdom of 1776. The Case for American Self-Sufficiency 4-2-25 by John Rush
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, how are you, sir?
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Good afternoon, John. We're doing great. Thanks for having us back.
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Always a joy. Our founding patriots blessed us greater than our appreciation of them. Yeah, that's for sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it's interesting because I wanted to do this topic because in the next couple of weeks, we begin the 250-year celebrations that will last over the next year or two. And then with what we've seen in Congress the last couple of days, it makes it even more pertinent to talk about this today than it might have been otherwise.
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All right, let's get into it. Let's get started.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, our founders, when we look at what they did for us and over the length of period, I don't think we properly appreciate it because if we study it at all, we think it happened in a very compressed timeframe. But if you go back and look from the first of the independence movement after the Stamp Act in 1765 until the end of the War and the Peace Treaty, that was 1783. That was 18 years. that they sacrificed and struggled to get the independence that we so cavalierly throw away on a regular basis.
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And, you know, your comment about how much they actually did and over how much time they did it, we tend to just sort of put them in this small little square box and think, oh, you know, they did a few things here and a few things there. No, they dedicated their life to this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, absolutely. And it was not just the people that carried the muskets. It was the women, the children. Everybody was contributing that was on the independent side and at very minimum sacrificing. But they were contributing food, clothing, other types of things that would support the effort. And it took everybody. And there were people that died before the Declaration of Independence was ever even signed that contributed to the effort. And so we forget about all of the efforts, and it took all of them then, just like today it takes all of us to make our country as good as it can be.
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And I know this is a hard question, Richard, but do you think they knew what they were getting into prior to it? I mean, in other words, do you think they knew what those sacrifices were going to be, or did they just address them as they came?
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Well, I think there's probably a little bit of both. I think it started out addressing some things as they came, but then as they became more and more either committed or resigned and having to go to independence versus hoping the king would change his ways, I think then they became much more strategic in what they thought they would have to do. And because if you look at the colonies, while the war was going on and while things were going on, 1774 and 1775, the Congresses or the legislatures in the colonies were coming up with their own laws and things of that type nature. So it was not an emotional reactionary movement. It was very much a responsive movement to the way the king was treating the colonies and their desire to break free and be independent in individual liberty, not collective liberty.
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And we even, you know, as you know, and this is a quote that I had to, I remember I was young, there was a, you know, play at school, and I had to play Patrick Henry, so the give me liberty or give me death quote is one that I will forever remember, Richard, because when you're a kid and you learn those lines, it's one of those things that you just never, ever forget, and I happened to play Patrick Henry in that play. But there was a guy that I think, and this is my opinion, I think he really did understand what that statement meant, and he was willing to give it all.
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Well, absolutely. And by the time he said it, and we just celebrated the 250th anniversary a week or two ago of that speech, by the time he said it, he was all in committed. And he ended up helping to write the Constitution for Virginia and being the first governor of Virginia and all kinds of service to his people. fellow countrymen after that statement, but he was committed just like we'll talk about the signers of the Declaration.
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All right, let's move on. There's others here that I want to make sure we don't forget, because there's a lot of them. And I've said this before with you and without you being on, Richard, and the reality that there was a lot of those founding fathers that literally gave it all. And I mean, when I say gave it all, folks, they had literally nothing left over when it was all said and done. They had given every single thing. They had family, friends, money, you name it. They gave it all so you and I could have freedom today, Richard.
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Well, I think that's the thing we need to remember. They pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor signing the Declaration of Independence. Nine of them died fighting or under hardship. Twelve had their homes pillaged and destroyed. Five were captured and interrogated and died in captivity. Two lost sons. Another one had two sons captured. They lost wives and fortunes. But the thing that's amazing is not one of them betrayed their pledge and trust with the other signers, despite all of that suffering. And to me, that example for us is one that we should remember and honor.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I'm one that thinks, and I think you would agree with me, those guys especially signed. They realized at that point in time, the minute they put their pen to paper, back then the quill and the ink to paper, I think they in that time realized exactly what they were doing and what the consequences would and probably could and or would be in the end.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they knew what would happen when they signed because they knew there'd be a death warrant from the King of England on their heads. They probably didn't know exactly what would happen, but I'm sure they knew they would all pay a price and just hope that they would win in their effort.
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Richard, and I'm not trying to change the subject or anything along those lines, but Trump today, he was out, he was talking about terrorists. I'll get into a little bit more of that here later in the program. I've got another guest joining us at the bottom of the hour that will talk about that as well. But I'm afraid, Richard, that we have a country today that, A, Wouldn't give it all. We have some that aren't even willing to suck up some tariffs for a little while. And yes, I realize it raises prices and ultimately it's a tax on us as consumers when it's all said and done. But you have to somehow level the playing field. And so many countries have gotten away with absolute total murder when it comes to our exports into their countries. You know, what I'm getting at, Richard, is we live in a day and age right now where we can't even suck it up to pay tariffs.
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We could do a whole segment about the tariffs and how we've been abused since the end of World War II. propping up other countries and resuming the reciprocal tariffs will make it much more fair for us. Dr. Joseph Warren, who was one of the leaders of the independence movement, he was killed at Bunker Hill before independence was declared. And in one of his speeches, he told the patriots, act worthy of yourselves. And that's good advice for us as well. We need to act like we deserve the liberty that we've been given.
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Yeah, and again, I'm afraid that, and this is not a blanket statement because we've got a lot of great men and women that are even serving in our armed forces that know exactly what it means to give it all. We've got families of those particular individuals that know exactly what it's like to give it all. Unfortunately, Richard, those are the minority. I mean, we've got people running around this country right now that just because they don't like a particular person is trying to cut waste, fraud and abuse. They're willing to burn down Teslas and or key them and or do whatever else they don't like just because they don't like that particular individual. Yeah, those are people that I guarantee are not willing to lay their life down for the country.
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Well, absolutely not, because all that side wants is raw power. And if they don't get power the way they want it, then they throw a temper tantrum because they are very selfish and very immature. And just like children who don't get what they want. And our country has to work. as a constitutional republic where the majority wins, but the rights of the minority are respected and not trampled like they are in a democracy. And when people on both sides have done that with respect to each other, it's functioned much better than it does today.
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Agreed. When we kind of close things out here, as we, I should say, kind of close things out here, and you look at some of the other individuals and what they sacrificed and some of the quotes that they have, which I definitely want to close out with, Richard. What I want, though, to make sure that folks... realize is we tend to, and I get it, Richard, I can do the same thing. We go about our daily lives. We've got our families. We've got our jobs. We've got all the things that we work on. And yes, those things are important. And we get caught up in all of these day-to-day activities, which we need to. They have to be done. These things have to be accomplished. Otherwise, we don't put food on the table. And I understand all of that. Yet there are times where we have to sit back and reflect upon what got us here in the first place. In other words, what happened to allow us to even be here today?
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Well, I think that's a great, great statement. And as I tell people, none of us can do everything to make the country the way we want it. But we can all do one thing. And I encourage people, find something you're passionate about, local, county, state or federal. Contribute to that. Be involved in some little bitty way. more than we are today, because if we don't exercise our citizenship, it's going to be taken away, and we will be dictated to by whoever takes control.
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Great point. Close us out with a couple of these quotes, if you would.
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Well, I think Thomas Paine's, "...the greatest of tyrannies are always perpetuated in the name of the noblest causes." To me, that is so critical because they're telling us they're going to help us while they're taking our liberty away. And there's one, and I can't remember who said it, and I don't have it on our notes, but one of the founders said he was willing to fight for freedom and independence then. so that his sons would not have to. And we've had great people like that over our history, but we need people to contribute today to make sure the country we leave for our children and grandchildren is the same independence that we have.
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The last quote that you've got in my notes, which is another one that I just enjoy, my only regret is I have but one life to give for my country. In other words, Nathan Hale, he believed very much in our country.
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Absolutely. He was 21 years old when he said that and went to the gallows for being a spy for Washington. He wasn't a professional spy, but he wanted to serve and volunteered when Washington needed him and gave his life at 21. Wow. Amazing.
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Amazing. Okay, Richard, as we head down this stretch into, you know, we've got graduations coming up, other things that will be happening in the not-too-distant future as folks prep for that and trying to figure out what to buy, those special individuals in their life that may have that, you know, that momentous occasion coming up. How do they do that from RichardBattle.com?
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Well, we appreciate it, and the latest book is Americans Who Made America, the 18th Century Birth of the Republic. The 19th century volume will be out in June. You can go to richardbattle.com. That and all other books are signed. If you'd like them inscribed, email me, richard at richardbattle.com. We're happy to inscribe gift copies. Everything's at Amazon in Kindle and audio as well as printed.
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I understand that the left is a little out there at times, and I call being a liberal a mental illness, and I mean that, because their mind just works in a way that mine doesn't. Now, maybe I'm mentally ill, and they're not, and that's the problem, but I don't think so. I don't think so. And here's why I say this. Liberals admit to shoplifting... from Whole Foods as a way to stick it to Jeff Bezos. Charlie sent me this a day or so ago. And as I read through this, as I'm reading this, I'm thinking to myself, this mentality surely doesn't exist. But it does. There's people in this particular article here, this is from Fox Business News, where they interview these people, and they're talking about how they shoplift enough in a month's time to cut their grocery bill by $1,000 or so. And they somehow think that because of doing so, it's like Robin Hood. They're stealing from the rich and giving to themselves, which they consider themselves to be poor. And so they feel like because Bezos has so much money and Amazon has so much money and Whole Foods turns a profit and this, that, and the other, that they're somehow sticking it to the man by stealing, by shoplifting. Whole Foods and Amazon, of course, had no comment on this particular story. Yeah, and I can already tell you why, because here's their comment. We have shrinkage on an annual basis. This is me talking as I'm Whole Foods now. We have shrinkage on an annual basis, and what people don't understand is all of that shrinkage is put back into our total cost of doing business, meaning that everybody else down the road just pays a higher price for the shrinkages that we incur each quarter, each year, et cetera. That's the answer, by the way. That's why I say these liberals that think that they're really sticking it to the man. No, they're actually sticking it to everybody else that walks in the door after them, including themselves. They think that because of this theft, they're somehow taking it out of Jeff Bezos's pocket or Amazon's pocket. No, that's not how this works. That's not how it works. There are times, yes, where businesses will suffer a quote-unquote loss, and yes, they have to cover that loss on their own, and they will not pass that on. That's rarity, by the way. That doesn't happen very often. Normally, businesses will look as a whole at, okay, what did we lose on last year? And they have to make adjustments. They either have to say, okay, we are not going to provide that service any longer because we're not making any money on that. For example, I hate to pull this in, but I might as well. Southwest Airlines, which is all over the Internet and some people love what they're doing. Some people hate what they are doing. Most people hate what they're doing because they've been so used to the way things have been that they don't like the changes that are being made. And at the end of the day, they feel like, you know, they're somehow going to. to benefit, I guess, by complaining, whining, moaning, whatever. But my point is, Southwest is making changes because they have to, because their current business model isn't supporting enough profit to keep things going in the direction that they have to. So they have no choice but to make changes necessary to stay in the black. Dan and Blackhawk, you know about the black, Dan.
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I do, because I used to work retail when I was younger, and most of the markup, like, Mark it up 50%, but you're only making a 30% margin. 33 and a third, that's right.
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Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, 33 and a third. You mark it up 100%, you're making 50%.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And grocery stores don't work on, they don't even work on a 33 and a third margin. They work on less margins than that.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. Yeah, most grocery stores, we've talked about this in the past, most grocery stores, their net after everything's all handled is, I don't know, 1.5%, 2.5% when it's all said and done.
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Yeah, so you have people that are stealing from them, and they got to raise the prices in order to stay in business.
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And, Dan, you're on the accounting side of things. You see what businesses do and so on. And I can tell you right now that I've had conversations before with, I've only had a couple of accountants my entire career, but I can tell you that my current accountant, if I had a particular division that was doing nothing but losing money year after year after year and he could see that, I can tell you what he would tell me. Either you have to change this to where it starts making money or stop doing it. Yeah, raise prices or go out of business. Right, or stop doing it. One of the two. Absolutely.
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Right.
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Yeah, exactly. So my question, Dan, is, and again, I know the rhetorical answer because I understand how the left thinks, but I just can't believe that people are this ignorant that they think somehow this is somehow punishing Jeff Bezos himself.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's punishing everybody else.
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It's not punishing Jeff at all, by the way. Zilch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah. They're just sticking it to the person who's honest, who is quote-unquote poor. That's what gets me. They're liberal, and they're going to an organization that's pretty much liberal, and they're stealing from their own. It makes no sense. But like you said, they don't think straight at all.
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No, they do not.
SPEAKER 06 :
Liberals.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, and again, that mentality of I'm going to steal and therefore somehow affect the outcome of the person that owns said business, especially when it's a business as big as what Amazon Whole Foods is. I mean, it'd be one thing to be doing that to your local market, thinking you're sticking it to the owners there because, yeah, there's more of a direct effect there. But, Dan, in this case, there is absolutely zero effect.
SPEAKER 06 :
Except us, if we go to Whole Foods. Right. and buy our groceries at Whole Foods.
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Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, yeah, it just boggles my mind, like yours, that they don't think, is what I'm thinking.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, they don't. Well, if they were thinking through this, then they would come up to the same conclusion you and I are, but they don't think.
SPEAKER 06 :
But they went to, if they went to a college, they went to a liberal college and were fed liberal information, and they're not taught business, or economics, or any of that anymore. When I talk to people that went to high school and college, especially high school, economics was how to write a check. I'm like, that's not economics. That's personal finance.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's basics.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and they're not teaching the macro and the microeconomics. So people don't understand that. And they do that on purpose, or they've done that on purpose. Because if people don't understand how the economy works and how macroeconomics and microeconomics work, then they can do what they want to do. So I was working with a tax client of mine, and she was complaining about she didn't want her Medicare and Social Security taken away. And I thought to myself, is it the government's responsibility to take care of us?
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No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, and that's where we need to plan accordingly so that when we do get to retirement age, we don't have to rely on Social Security and Medicare.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct.
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But for somehow, the society has taught us that, well, we'll be taken care of because of Social Security and Medicare, and then the liberals can always threaten to take it away and get what they want. I'm like, well, if you took care of yourself, you wouldn't have to worry about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's a non-issue. It's a bonus.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know. Right. Exactly.
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And that's, personally, that's how I'm looking at it. If I get it someday, great. If I don't, I'll still be fine. Yes, I realize I've paid in. I understand all of that. I understand the arguments. I understand why it's called an entitlement. Dan, I get all of that, but the way I'm personally looking at it is, and I try to train my own clients to look at it, is have enough other things in place that if you end up getting those, there's your play money.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and you, and, um, What was I going to say? We're not... I lost my train of thought. We need to make sure that we don't have that entitlement mentality. We need to get people away from that entitlement mentality because it's just costing us money. Oh, that's right. So I remember Bush wanted to turn Social Security into... A funded or similar to para where you draw interest on what you're paying in and that got shot down. If they could get that switched over to where the money we put in would draw interest and we could draw it out. then it would work. But it doesn't work. It's a pay-as-you-go type of program. That's right. Which is stupid.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sunny Kutcher joining us now from Young Americans Against Socialism. Sunny, welcome. How are you today?
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Doing great, as always. Liberation Day.
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Liberation Day, I didn't watch all of President Trump's speech. I had to be ready for the program at 3, but I watched a good portion of what he had to say today. And he hit all of the high notes, I guess you could say, Sonny, when it comes to tariffs. And I think he did a – one of the complaints I've had is not communicating well enough with the American public as to why are we doing what we're doing. And I think he did a pretty good job today of – of talking about why these things need to be adjusted. And I get it. There are so many different thoughts on tariffs. Do they work? Do they not work? Is it just a tax on the people? On and on we go. And the comment that I always have back, Sonny, is, you know, you may not like or agree with what's going on, but something has to change. We can't keep going down the same path that we're on and letting some of these countries get by with what they're getting by with. Something has to give.
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Absolutely, and I think President Trump made a really good point when he said that a lot of these countries, that they completely understand his reasoning behind this policy because they want a great deal for their country, and they've been riding off into the sunset taking advantage of Americans for so long. And America is the largest consumer base in the world. I mean, we are the land of consumers. And so we essentially consume all of the world's stuff. And in order to increase manufacturing in this country so that, you know, it can Costs can still be maintained low for Americans. I think that's really where the policy is strong because it incentivizes businesses to build factories here, which they've been leaving for decades.
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Yeah, and I think, you know, one thing, too, that I don't think gets brought in enough, and I wish President Trump would have said something along these lines today, in regards to some areas of industry, not all, but some areas of industry, it becomes a national defense issue as well. For example, car companies. And I was very critical of the fact that we allowed, back in the day, it was, you know, Dodge, Ram, Chrysler, Jeep, We allowed a foreign company to basically buy an American company. It is now no longer an American company, meaning we have two American car companies left in America versus the three. It used to always be called the big three. And as a car person myself, I looked at that and said, that's a bad move because that does have an effect upon our national security. And for those of you listening, let me explain. When we have things needed for wartime events, building different things and so on, automakers have the ability to build other things just like we did during World War II and navigate around different things that give us the ability to make those things happen and be self-sufficient. And, Sonny, when we let some of those things go other places, our auto plants going to Canada or Mexico or wherever, the reality is we lose some of that national security capability in those things happening. And I wish President Trump would have said some of those things today.
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I definitely think that that's a valid point, you know, and to some degree with the free market, how can I think and even, you know, there are strategies where we can kind of combat that type of thing, because of course, it's hard to, you know, how can you say an American company can't be bought by any other company. But the problem is, I think that there should be more incentives as far as perhaps, I don't know, tax credits or different policies for Americans to stay as an American company, you know, to remain in major part owned by American shareholders, owned by American individuals and partners because I think that America does have the advantage when it comes to prosperity. I mean, as you see, we are the superpower of the country and I think that we should be respected as such. I think we've just been kind of living off of the fat of decades of just the innovative industries and the prosperity of our country. But at a certain point, it has started to decline, which is what has led us to this spot, which is what has made President Trump so successful and in hitting the golden age of America, bringing back those industries because the middle class is suffering. The middle class is losing those jobs. The middle class is being hit where it hurts. The inflation, all of these things that have just really decimated the middle class in our country and the industries as well. I think, just to reiterate, some policies like that would be really interesting to see, just like the tariffs are bringing in completely new companies to build their factories here. I also wanted to point out that the White House actually shared an article on their website, it's one of their main pages where they write articles about all the things that President Trump is doing. And they actually included a link to when Janet Yellen was discussing major tariffs on Chinese imports by President Biden in his term. And that when he implemented it, I think it was MSNBC, they were asking Janet Yellen what she thought about these tariffs and if she felt that it was going to have an impact on Americans and the American consumer. And she said that, quote, I don't believe that American consumers will see any meaningful increase in the prices that they face. So it just kind of shows you that despite, you know, the hullabaloo, like the financial boom, you know, the bastions of financial acuity and intelligence of, you know, where financial trends are going. They love to poo-poo President Trump's ideas and come down on conservative ideas, out-of-the-box ideas, perhaps, or maybe even stronger policies like tariffs that do kind of, like Trump said, a little bit of tough love. They like to come down on that because it doesn't sound good, but that's actually what's going to demand respect for our country and bring us prosperity in the long term.
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Well, one thing I've talked about, too, and I have to remind people of this from time to time, is even some of the already, how should I say this, Sonny, the investments that are already being looked at and or, you know, companies already in the process of moving forward with certain projects in, And Trump mentioned some of those today. He didn't even do some of them specifically. You know, Hyundai's looking at $25 billion investment to build cars here in the U.S. Now, one thing that I always have to remind people of is, and this is something that most folks on the left don't even understand, it's not just the car plant and the workers at the plant in California. Maybe I know more about this because of what I do for a living outside of being on air, Sonny. But the ancillary things that come out of having that plant not only built, but then maintained and managed, it can drive an entire community. In fact, in some cases, an entire city off of one or two or three of those types of plants being built. Literally, those plants alone can drive an entire community. And I think it's one of those things that, by the way, isn't being – I know Trump talks about it. He'll brush across it, talk about the investments being made. But I wish he'd get into more of the details along the lines of what I just said a moment ago because we don't say that enough to get people a proper understanding.
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Absolutely. And all they're hearing from the punchy headlines is tariff is just another tax. But like you said, the plan is to have countries actually avoid that tariff by investing in this country. And like we've said, America is the land of the consumer, so they're selling it to us anyways. In fact, if they have a factory here, it actually saves them money because they don't have to ship their product across an ocean. So I think that I absolutely concur with your point. I do wish the president would talk about that a little bit more as well. Because, like you said, it can actually generate an entire city. And not only the jobs that it's already creating to build these factories and the plans that these companies have been starting, but what's to say in years, 10 years from now, what a town could look like because of this business boom.
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That's right. And again, one of the things that... Again, I guess me being a businessman and always doing that and understanding some of the ancillary things that happens when big organizations and big plants come into play. It's one of the things that at times I get a little nervous about as well because it's like, okay, you build this entire community around this plant, and all of a sudden the plant decides, oh, you know what? We're going to offshore these, which, by the way, happened to us in Colorado on more than one occasion to where somebody then decides, oh, you know what? We'll buy these guys out. We can consolidate that. And we'll go offshore some of these things. And you know what? Then that community that was relying on 3,000 to 4,000 jobs that are now no longer existent, the reality is that's a huge impact upon that community. So the one thing that I don't think it's talked about enough is all of the ancillary things to our point, Sonny, as to what happens when these things get built and then get maintained. Even though... A physical auto plant, for example, may not have as many workers in it as it used to because of robotics. The reality is those robots still need to be maintained. There still needs to be deliveries made. There still needs to be floors washed and bathrooms scrubbed, and, and, and, and, and. I mean, there's all sorts of other things that still go on. There's all sorts of engineering things that happen in that software and hardware and, and, and, and. I mean, I can go down the list, Sonny, of the things that still have to happen to make that plant operate. And then out of that... all of the other little businesses that may be formed around that, that also then create jobs. I mean, the multiplier effect is huge, and I wish Trump would talk about that more.
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Absolutely. And yeah, from a report, or I'm sorry, an analysis from the Coalition for a Prosperous America, in 2024, they did a study that implementing a global tariff of 10% on all U.S. imports would grow the economy by $728 billion, create 2.8 million jobs, and increase real household incomes by 5.7%. So those are some pretty big numbers, and that's just 10% on U.S. imports in their report. I could not agree with you more. I think, you know, there are a lot of people who are very apprehensive or, you know, even actually openly against these tariffs. And, you know, that's totally valid. I mean, everyone's entitled to their opinion. I think when you really look at the economics of it, it. it's kind of the proof is in the pudding. I mean, this one seems a little bit more self explanatory because it just not only on the economic side, but in, in, in a negotiating side, when you talk about countries on a global political, uh, playing field or landscape in order to have a good deal. I mean, those countries want to make money and they want good business. Um, we need to be respected and so if we need a leader who is going to demand that respect we're we're not going to get get a good deal in anything if you know we don't actually push back a little bit and say well if we're the consumer what are what are we getting out of it yeah as a buyer what are we getting out of this the other thing that i would caution everybody out there listening by the way when it comes to who you're watching listening or reading about when it comes to tariffs is first things first
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Are they a globalist? Because number one, Sonny, if they're a globalist, they're always going to be against terrorists. And frankly, I don't listen to anything those guys have to say. I might read a little bit here or there just to see what their side is saying. But I don't listen to globalists because they have a completely different agenda on what needs to happen on the global front than what I do as a nationalist. As somebody, I want to keep things here nationally. I don't care about the globe itself per se when it comes. So first things first, are they a globalist? Have they always been? Second thing, Sonny, that I typically look at is what's their background? Is this person only ever been a talk show host? Have they ever written a payroll check? Have they ever been in business for themselves? Have they ever ran a successful business? Because no offense, Sonny, but if you haven't done some of those things, shut up. I'm sorry to say, but if you haven't done some of those other things, shut up because you know nothing about how tariffs works when it's all said and done.
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Absolutely. And I think there is also, you know, pundits and our media, just the whole thing has conditioned people. This globalism that you speak of has conditioned the narrative to, you know, be about, oh, fairness. And, you know, well, we need to be friendly with the world because, you know, we get our chips from Taiwan and all of this stuff. And it's like. Other places make these things. It's not like a one-size-fits-all.
SPEAKER 11 :
The sad thing on the chip thing, Sunny, back to your whole point, we allowed these things to be offshored and for those things to be built in one part of the world that, frankly, that didn't need to happen. We could have easily done what they're doing there here on our soil. We just didn't. That's our fault.
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And and to your point about globalism and the globalists who, oh, yeah, it's all about the world. You know, we want free trade. Well, they want that because they want an imbalance of control.
SPEAKER 11 :
They want a one world government, Sonny. That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly.
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Don't forget, they want a one world government when it's all said and done. So that's why globalists don't like what's going on, because they don't want to see the U.S. win.
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They don't want to see us win. They would love to see us, you know. Yeah, no, absolutely. I completely agree with you. And I think also they want control in China's hands. They want control in these countries' hands that they can control, that the invisible hands can control.
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It's all connected. And I mean, even, you know, when you look at President Trump's first term, there was billions of dollars invested. He was discussing the billions, if not trillions at this point, all combined of investments that will be made in this country in the next four years. And I think that alone is something to congratulate. I mean, even if it's a fraction of what we hope it to be, I think that's still a win for us. And it is also decoupling us with just the system, the system of the Federal Reserve, the inflation, all these taxes, all of those that he is implementing is decoupling us from this this globalist agenda and narrative to push us into a one-world government, and that's why we can't have central bank digital currencies and all of these things.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. No, you are 1,000% correct, and again, I would caution all of you listening, when you start reading different things about tariffs and so on, always look at it through the lens of who's actually doing the writing, the talking, the commentary, and so on. The other thing that I really want, and I think they're doing it, I wish they would do a little bit better job, and I'm always, you know, I'm always willing to call out something when I see it like it is, Sonny, and that is the current administration. I wish they would be talking about, and you said it a moment ago, some of these investments that Trump talked about in his speech, the $5 trillion of investments. Those are trillions of dollars that will not only initially be invested, but these are decades worth. Plural decades long investments that we will see the outcome of as a country for the next 20 years. I mean, no offense, Sonny. You'll be in your middle ages by the time some of these things, even if they do start to wind down, will even wind down or level off. You'll see the upside of that for a very long time. I'll be dead and gone and you'll still be seeing the benefits of. And we're not talking about that enough.
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Absolutely. And I just. Ultimately, I think it's because people, you know, the left shies away from American exceptionalism. They really don't like this country when it comes down to it. They think we're a racist country. You know, you see all these videos, all these judges, everything that's going on is an attempt to stop the prosperity of this country. And when you really look at it that way, it becomes a lot more obvious. And so that's why it is so incredible to finally have a leader who can stand for the American people and demand respect, especially where it matters most, because if not, this country will go bankrupt. And especially with, you know, the cuts that are being made. And I also heard that, you know, they want to create an external revenue service, which I'm sure would go hand in hand with these tariff policies. And I think it's a wonderful sign to come.
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Awesome. Sunny, I thank you very much. Have a great rest of your day.
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All right. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for all the text messages, by the way. And I apologize. I didn't get a chance to read those through the top of the hour. Charlie and I were talking about different things that sometimes we do from time to time. And at any rate, I will answer some of these as I'm – actually, that's when we actually could type and talk at the same time. So occasionally I'm able to do that. I don't do that very often. But sometimes I actually can talk and type at the same time. All right. This was news I didn't talk much about. I don't know why. I guess because when I heard it at first, I was just sort of like, eh, I'm not sure that's all true. And that was the Atlantics story that came out, I think it was Monday. that talked about the dad, the father, that had inadvertently been deported and is now along the other MS-13 gang members and so on. And it was a big mistake. He shouldn't have been deported. He was just a regular old dad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that was the story that came out Monday. Charlie, you probably saw the headlines and read some of that as well. And I did, too. And I didn't mention it on air. And frankly, I'm glad that I didn't. Because guess what? It's not true. None of it's true. The Atlantic basically, well, did they fake the story or did they just screw up? Who knows? Bottom line is, that's not the whole story. That particular individual, it wasn't a human tragedy that he somehow got deported on accident. No, the reality is that particular person was, in fact, a member of... MS-13. And I can't read the entire article in front of me because this is one of the paywall things, and that's what I hate about certain sites, and no, I won't do the paywall. But bottom line, yes, in fact, he had been in line to be deported in the past. He had gotten some passes under the past... He should have been deported. There was no mistake made. This wasn't some just regular house dad with kids in school and this, that, and the other like they made it sound on Monday. No, in fact, this was somebody that should have been deported from the get-go. He was, in fact, a gang member, and he shouldn't be here. Once again, the left, doing what the left does best, fabricating stories to fit their narrative, And I mean, I already know this answer. Why does the left, you know, why are they so bent on keeping criminals in our country? That's a question I have for some of you that are on the left. Why are you so bent in keeping criminals here? I thought you were for law and order and all of those things, but it's evident that you're quite the opposite. You aren't for law and order. You would like to see chaos. You are basically bent on chaos rather than law and order, proving my point as to what happened on Monday. And by the way, if you don't believe me on that, that is all over the news today that that Atlantic story was basically made up. I first noticed it in Blaze, but then I went and thought, OK, well, that's Blaze. Let me look a little bit further to make sure that that's not just something the Blaze is throwing out there. But no, he deserved to go to the Salvadorian prison. He's been involved in MS-13. There's very much a history there of all of that. And again, he has been involved in things in the past, and he actually had a deportation proceeding back in 2019. He was deemed to be a danger to the public and a flight risk then. So, yeah, this is not a nice guy. Now, maybe he was to his own family and all of that, but to the public, no, not a nice guy, not somebody that we need here. And furthermore, if you're not here legally... And what the Trump administration is currently doing right now is taking those that are here illegally and are a known threat to the public, and they're the first ones that are getting deported. Now, the other thing that they are doing, and rightfully so, because I don't have any issues here, there are students here who have overstayed their visas on certain college campuses, I guess because they feel like they can. And, yes, they're going through the process of being deported as well. And when I hear these things, at first people would say, well, isn't that kind of mean? Well, let me send you to another country, any country, and let's see what happens when you overstay your visa. Because I can tell you, as somebody that's traveled around the world, I've been to a lot of different places, most of the Caribbean. I've been to Africa. I've been to parts of Europe. I've been to Mexico, of course. I've been enough places to know that I can tell you that they ask you specifically how long are you going to be here. In some cases, you have to, Africa, for example, you have to apply for a visa in advance, and there's a period that you're allowed to be there. And I can guarantee you that if you don't leave as you're supposed to, they will come find you. And or when you get to leaving and you didn't leave on time, you're going to have a problem. So other countries are very serious about overstaying visas. We haven't been here. We've allowed things to just sort of, you know, slip through the cracks, if you would, and it's become a habit. And, well... Guess what? Those cracks are being filled in. They're no longer being allowed to slip through. And if you're here on a student visa and it's starting to expire and you don't do what you need to do to get it renewed, that's on you. That's not on me as a citizen. That's on you. That's not on DHS. That's on you. You need to be the one responsible for making sure that you get things updated. And if not, then go home. Go home and figure it out. And again, I could go south of the border. I could go to Mexico and overstay my visa, and I'd have the same problem. So it's always confusing to me that you hear all of this nonsense from the left, and yet if any of those individuals that don't like what's going on right now in regards to deportation went to another country and overstayed, or entered illegally, by the way, they'd have a problem. But yet, because we're the United States of America... We should just be throwing our arms open, open wide, let anybody that wants to come, come. 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Yeah, John, this all ties back to what you were talking about in the last hour with the tariff center and everything else. You know, this globalist agenda that they have that's against the success of the United States is all tied together as one large plan, and these are just parts of that same plan. You know, economically, they want us to suffer because our economy is the economy.
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Right.
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Everybody wants to come here and sell here. Everybody wants to do business here. Because why? Because we've set up a system where freedom to go out there, and you know this as well as anybody. You're an entrepreneur yourself. You go out there, and if you've got the will and the guts to get out there and do it, you can get here, and you can make it very well. They all come here, whether it's from England, Germany, Russia, Japan, the Chinese even. They want to buy. They want to invest. They want to do business here because we are the marketplace. We drive the world's economy, and they want to take advantage of that. And if they can take advantage of that and hurt us at the same time, they will. There are no friends out there. Even our allies are not our friends.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. That's right, Dave. You're 1,000% correct. And that's what cracks me up about some of these people that are so against what Trump is doing right now. It's like, okay, first of all, you couldn't run a lemonade stand, most of these people that are complaining about it. Second of all, you might know... Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly right. And, you know, as that old saying goes, you know, charity begins at home.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
We can't take care of anybody else. We can't go help anybody else if we ourselves are suffering. I mean, it's literally cutting off your nose in spite of your face. You're not going to be able to help anyone if you're a poor man.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, and what's happened is, as a country, Dave, that what you just said, that's exactly what's happened to us. Thirty-six and a half... trillion dollars in debt, and it's higher than that if you look at some of the other unfunded liabilities. And by the way, all of that because of the very things that you and I are talking about right now. We give 70-plus billion dollars away every year to a lot of other countries. We've got all sorts of social programs that are going on. We don't do tariffs like we should. We're getting killed in that particular area. I mean, I can go down the list, Dave, of the things that are happening, and it's high time we started paying attention to what's going on here at home. Donald Trump is, and... And I get it. There's some fear that, you know, well, is he doing too much and are we going to be okay in the midterms? Well, fortunately, he's doing this really early. The midterms, frankly, I don't think most people are going to start paying any attention to those until probably January of 2026, January, February of 2026. So the reality is he's got almost a year to get these things handled and done. And I think by then he will have. And, yes, we might go through a little bit of pain, Dave, in getting to where we want to go. But I'm willing to take that pain.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and I think another thing that a lot of people don't seem to realize, it's just history, and people are going to eventually learn about it, but prior to 1913, we didn't have an IRS, and we didn't have personal income tax. What we had were tariffs, and the government ran 100% off of tariffs that we charged other countries, and that funded the entire government. We did not need the tax system that we have now, and it's become a big scam. against the average taxpaying American.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and some would come out and say, well, okay, so that means you're either going to pay a tax in the goods itself, i.e., the tariff, or you can pay the income tax. Dave, I mean, I guess the way I look at it is I'd rather pay less in income tax, pay more for the goods if that's how you want to consider it being done, then it's more of a flat tax approach anyways. I'm fine with that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, absolutely. And guess what? Leave me to my own devices with my money. Maybe I turn around and I invest that money and I become that much more successful. Maybe start a business, become an entrepreneur, start hiring people, expand the economy by keeping people employed. That can happen. That's what's happened in the United States. There was one short video that I sent you on. There's one guy who'd done a study. He was an MIT researcher. And he looked at the last large billion-dollar startups. And he said these are startups that started up from scratch, not from inherited money, not from mergers, not from anything. Straight from scratch startups. Apple, Amazon, Facebook, those kind of things. Every single one of those happened here in the freedom of the United States.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
He did a contrast of Europe, and what happened in Europe is minuscule. to the wealth creation than what the United States is creating as far as creating millionaires and billionaires from scratch.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. Well, and I go back to what we were talking about with Sonny Kutcher last hour, Dave, and that's one thing I wish this administration would do a better job of talking about, and that is when a... a company like we'll just use hyundai on the small side because there's been a lot of other companies that have came in and talked about much larger investments we'll just use hyundai in this case so south korea hyundai they have agreed to come in and put in 25 billion dollars into their own plants and so on that they can now make cars in america they want to make up to a million cars a year here in america uh in a mixture of by the way which is which is great more power to them What we don't talk enough about, Dave, is the byproduct of what comes out of that $25 billion. In fact, what you just said a moment ago about some of the startups and some of the other companies that will be formed and some of the people that will go out and do things on their own to either help support the plant or the people that are now working in and or around the plant or for some of those companies that are servicing the plant. I can go down the list, Dave. The reality is, you know, just one plant alone, and I'm not exaggerating, one plant alone can literally handle a small town and the economy of.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. This is what I'm driving crazy about the whole thing, tying it all together about what you're talking about with the globalists. It's not just the economy, but this president is forcing the rest of the world to realize the United States is not going to be your policeman anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
You have the capacity to defend yourself. You defend yourself. We're not going to cover that anymore. The Cold War is over. The Cold War is over. We won that war. This is now the peace dividend that we were promised by George Bush, number one. We're not going to cover NATO anymore. Number two, we've been taking it. for years when it comes to immigration why people think that they're just entitled to come in and then we've got our own citizens specifically democrats on the left and even some people on the right who believe that well they're here now just let them stay no there's a process there's a process like you pointed out you can't go to any other country around the world and say hey just let me in i don't want to fill out any paperwork and i want to stay here as long as i want right they're going to look at you like you've grown three heads and they're going to say No, you're going to get back on that plane. You're going back from whence you came. Why people believe that the United States is somehow responsible to the world to bring in everybody's dregs, bring in everybody's problems. We've got our own problems. And like I said, you know, charity begins at home. We're never going to be able to fix anything or help anyone out there if we're destroying ourselves from within. And it's not our responsibility. And thankfully, we've got a president now that's saying, hey, you know what? This isn't the responsibility of the people of the United States. These are your issues. You need to fix them. If you need help, and if we can help you, then we will. But it's not going to fall to us primarily.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. It's interesting, Dave. Some of what you're talking about, I just read an article. It just came through to me. Somebody sent this to me. It's in Fox 31 talking about color repair shops, brace repair. for Trump tariffs. And there's an interview in here. I'm not going to name names of a particular import shop here in town talking about tariffs and so on. And the fact in this particular shop's case that 50% of the components that they work with come from either Canada or Mexico. Well, I can tell you right now, Dave, from being in the industry myself, They don't have to. There are plenty of products that are made here in America whereby you're not going to have any effect whatsoever on some of the things that we are talking about. Yes, there are some things that come from overseas or Mexico or Canada. And the reality is, Dave, they don't have to. We do have enough manufacturing capacity and things along those lines in this country to shift some of those things right back here on almost an immediate basis. The problem is those manufacturers haven't been incentivized to do so. These tariffs will do that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And it's one of those things about the vagaries of an economy, an economy of scale. When you're forced to change, you will. If you want to stay in business, as you pointed out, you're going to adjust or you're going to go out of business.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Plain and simple. And that's what those companies will do. We have that capacity to grow and do what we've got to do. And should there be any kind of a pain that some producers might run into, it's going to be short term. It's not going to be a long-term, years-long, decades-long, as we've been suffering through with all of these trade imbalances that we've had with the rest of the world. That's just not going to be it, Wade. Once these things get in line, because guess what? Eventually, don't be surprised if by the end of the week, a lot of these countries are coming back and saying, hey, you know what? We didn't realize you guys were serious. That 50%, 100% tariff that we had on your products, we're not going to do that anymore. Let's sit down and talk.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. I think you're going to see a lot of that, Dave. You're already starting to see it. You're going to see more of it. I think Trump's doing this the right way. A lot of people would disagree with me, but I think he's doing it very well, and he's setting the stage to where these guys are now going to bend the knee because, again, I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it. We're an almost $30 trillion a year gross domestic product. The next closest is China with around $18 trillion a year. The reality is we are so far above anybody else out there that they don't have any choice but to bend the knee.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. Like I pointed out before, we are the marketplace.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
We're the customer. Everybody produces stuff to sell here, exactly. And the reason why is because of the freedoms that we have as a consumer society, as a free society. That's right. Like it or not, they can bash consumerism, they can bash capitalism, but guess what? It's what made this country great, and it's going to continue to make it great if we don't shoot ourselves in the foot.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
wasting money willy-nilly, and thankfully, you know, Doge is coming out and pointing out a lot of the waste that a lot of people have known or suspected for years, but it hasn't been, you know, Penn hasn't been put to paper, and I wish they would really come out with a weekly regurgitation of what they found, you know, because then it would shock a majority of Americans into the reality that, hey, you know what, we can't continue this way. I mean, you pointed out we're already $36 trillion in debt and growing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know, the president's not going to be able to fix that, but he's going to be able to put a dent in it, at least, or maybe slow the spending.
SPEAKER 07 :
Put a cork in it and try to slow it down some.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know... You may have been shot in the chest, and you may be bleeding, but if you don't do something to stop the bleeding, you're going to die.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. I'll leave it at that. Great comment. Dave, I appreciate it as well. Thank you very much. One last thing. These are the kind of articles, when I read these, I just think to myself, you really didn't say that, did you? I'm not reading the article. I'm not going to throw any particular business under the bus, but in this particular article, when they're talking about price of auto parts and so on, this particular auto shop owner says that his shop... We'll likely try to absorb a bit of the cost of the increase of tariffs and so on. But we don't have a whole lot of room for dropping margin to absorb the tariffs ourselves and stay in business. You're not going to absorb any of those. You are a business. You're an auto shop business. I coach auto shops. I know exactly what your margins need to be to stay in business. And if you try to absorb any of those at all whatsoever, you won't be in business. So this is my point with this. Don't lie to us. So I'm sorry, but you can go read this article for yourself. This would be the last shop I would ever take my car to because this person is flat out lying because, no, they won't absorb any of this because if they do, they won't stay in business. So at the end of the day, no, they're going to have to pass these along just like any other business does. That's the way it works. And don't lie to us in the process. Sorry, I'll get off my high horse and move on. All right, Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. Dave Hart would love to help you with whatever your roof need is. Commercial, residential, all under one roof. He can extend the life of your roof, replace your entire roof. Call Dave today, 303-710-6916.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Scott Garlis will be joining us here in one moment. Before that, though, this is interesting news that was out on X this morning, and I have not verified this, but this would not surprise me that Amazon has put in a last-minute bid to acquire all of TikTok. which there is a deadline coming up, I believe it is this coming Sunday, for something to happen along those lines or it may go dark again unless President Trump decides to extend that out. I don't know exactly how that's going to play out. My gut feeling is TikTok's not going anywhere. It will get settled. Somebody will figure out a way to make that happen. It might even be somebody like an Amazon time will tell. But Scott Garlis joining us now. Scott, welcome. Hey, John, how are you? I was just talking about how Amazon looks like they put in a last-minute bid for TikTok.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, yes. Is that true?
SPEAKER 07 :
So did I hear that correctly?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I was reading some stories about that today.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, that is true. And the deadline is coming up. Is it not Sunday that they at least need to decide one direction or another what's going to happen? Is that not the deadline?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I for some reason thought the deadline might have even been today, but yes, it's very soon.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's looming is the point. Yes, that's correct. All right, so talk to us about all kinds of stuff happening. We've got a slowdown in the labor market. The economy is not looking as good as what maybe some would have said. In fact, what I would say, Scott, is, and maybe this is me just being who I am, But it's funny how as we start to shut down some of the waste, fraud, and abuse that Doge is finding, that we're now starting to see an overall slowdown in the economy, meaning that if the Fed had been sharp and had known, like you and I, that a lot of this was going on anyways, they would have already lowered interest rates another half a point by now, which they should have already done, because the reality is they're now behind once again. Because what's really happening is once you pull out some of this government spending, even in relation to some of the waste, fraud, and abuse, yeah, the economy's not as good as everybody thinks.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yes, that's correct. So they can only deal with the data sets they're being presented with. I agree.
SPEAKER 07 :
The problem with that is they're inaccurate.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's exactly where I'm going, yes. So if the BLS is reporting numbers that aren't right and they're inflated or... They've been inflated because of things that are going on, and now that is being taken away. Yes, they have inflated. Sorry for saying that word three times so quickly. No, you're fine. You're right. The numbers have been created that shouldn't have been there in the first place, and you're exactly right. So that has held the central bank from normalizing policy. And so now you're running into a problem where it's like, wait a second, all these other things are going on. Monetary policy or interest rates are way higher than they should have been the Fed is going to have to course correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
So how quickly, and I know the Fed said last meeting that, you know, we can only maybe see a couple of rate cuts for all of 2025, which, again, I understand they can make a prediction and they can go back on those predictions based upon the real numbers and things that start to come out. Now that some of these real numbers are coming out, and, again, some of this quote-unquote government spending is now slowing down, therefore lowering inflation and so on, even with tariffs and so on, I don't think you're going to see the inflation numbers that the Fed maybe had even been expecting. I think it's going to get below that. So my question is, will the Fed reverse course and actually start lowering rates?
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, they should. Now, how aggressively they do it or whether they do it remains to be seen. I mean, yesterday, the bond market was building in five rate cuts. Right now, it looks like um one two three four ray cuts are built in they had one in for late late 26 they just wish they'd back that one out we'll see um yeah i mean if that could do it they could do it all in one meeting i doubt they would they my guess would be they're going to want to do it gradually not to give the appearance like hey economic collapse but you do have the atlanta fed that recently put out a uh It's GDP now forecast for the first quarter. It's estimating, I believe it was a negative 3.8% growth number.
SPEAKER 07 :
Saw that.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's a big court shift. I mean, at the beginning of the quarter, they were talking about up like 2%. Right. And now to be all the way down to negative 3.8%, that would be interesting. Now, I will caveat that with, They tend to be a little aggressive on the upside. I wouldn't be surprised if they're a bit overly aggressive on the downside. So, yeah, maybe the number isn't quite this bad. Maybe it's more like zero. We'll see. But still, it's going to be lower than where it has been.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and again, like you, I don't have a crystal ball. I'm not in the Fed's mind. I don't know what they think or how they look at things and so on. What I do know is that to get some things back on track, economically speaking, regardless of what even happens on tariffs, because the reality is, Scott, I mean, there might be a little effect on some things that go into housing, but typically construction and those sorts of things, it might be a little bit of lumber, but I think even that's gotten itself dialed in with Canada. The reality is there's not going to be much of a change when it comes to lumber and building goods and so on. The reality is the cost to build a house isn't going to change a whole lot. So my point is the only way they're going to get houses sold moving forward is they're going to have to get the rate dropped.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, housing numbers have waned a little bit. We've seen a home builder recently come out and See, not good things about demand. Yeah, I mean, look, if hiring is slowing, I would think all those things come into effect. And, yes, you need rates to drop. Again, the housing market is a big part of the economy. Construction and the ancillary businesses associated account for typically between 15% and 18% of economic output. So, yes, if you want to get a part of the economy really revving that you need, that would be a good way to do it, drop rates. get the homebuilders to see demand pick back up, business pick back up. That would be a good thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and again, for those of you listening that would say, because I've heard this from listeners at times, Scott, where it's like, well, hey, we've had rates in the past where you look at the rate trends throughout the years on a 30-year mortgage, and the reality is there's nothing wrong with a 5%, 6%, 7% mortgage. Well... scott i wouldn't normally disagree with that the exception in this case though is when a lot of people are used to a three to four percent range and now they're at six and a half percent that's a big difference and unfortunately Because of what the Fed created even back in the day of getting those rates all the way down into that 3% to 4% range, the reality is I don't see that changing for quite some time. To keep housing moving forward and continuing to have a good positive trajectory, I hate to say this. They've baited them. They've given them the cocaine, if you would. They've been outside the schoolyard baiting these kids on how that works. The reality is they now can't pull it away. The only way you're going to keep that going is to have 5.5% or lower mortgage rates, or you're not going to sell houses like you used to.
SPEAKER 09 :
So basically since, what, 2009, people have been stuck on almost a zero or very low interest rates. When I bought my house in 2003, I believe the mortgage rate was six and seven-eighths, and I can remember my dad saying that's an incredible long-term... Yeah, because my first house was nine and three-quarter, and that was a good rate then. Yes, exactly. And so, yeah, I mean, so people have got, because we dealt with ultra-loose monetary policy, low rates for so long, the economy had adjusted to it. And then... To go through a cycle back in 22 where you raised rates at the fastest time in the last 45 years, that is a very abrupt shock to the system. But to your point, though, the positive side of this is they have a lot of firepower to cut rates and support the economy. They do. So while it's been painful, that is a silver lining.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's true. No, that's a plus. And, you know, me, I'm one, and I know I talk about this a lot, and I've had several different discussions, not necessarily arguments, but discussions with Scott, even family members at times when it comes to tariffs, because... I am one that says it's high time. I know it's going to be a little bit painful, but we've got to get some of these other countries in check. We've let them run rip shot over us for far too long. We've got to get some of these things back in order and quit being the stepping stone for the rest of the world. We are the largest GDP on the planet by a long shot. We are the ultimate buyer of goods when it's all said and done. And as the buyer, as the customer, they need to start listening to us.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I tell you, another big thing going on here, John, that could really help things, too, is the Fed is dialing back up its balance sheet. So we talked a lot about quantitative tightening. Originally, I don't think we have. But the Fed is backing off on the amount of bonds it's letting mature. It could do that even more. And again, that'll be another thing that'll help ease interest rates. You know, I think a lot of this is focused on bringing down the yield on the 10-year bond as well. And to your point, sort of deflating some of the false economic growth that's out there and rebasing things. And so if you want prices to come down, if you want the economy to reset and then rebuild from there, it feels like you have to go through some of this pain. And it's been staved off for the last year.
SPEAKER 07 :
So recession, that's always the big R word, and I kind of promoed you talking a little bit about that and your thoughts. I mean, I think even President Trump feels like we might have a little bit of a hiccup, and frankly, I think he wants one because I think he knows that's another way to actually get the Fed to move on things and get things really bounced back heavily as we enter into 2026, which would be great for the midterm. So I think he's wanting that to happen. So what are your thoughts on recession?
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, yeah, to that end, yes, it could happen. You could see a shallow one, and that would definitely reset a lot of different things. And again, back to resetting prices and getting rates way down, that would really help demand. And what you're asking on the front end of this conversation about could the Fed be more aggressive, if you had a recession, that could be the impetus for the Fed to get very aggressive on stimulating the economy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, personally, I think they need to. I think you start pulling back more of these numbers, pull back the curtain more on some of this wasteful spending that's happening, governmentally speaking, and you start realizing that, wait a minute, we're not quite in as good a shape as we once thought we were. And I think more of that's going to start coming out in the data. As you know, data always lags in that particular area. In other words, you know, Doge could shut something down January 1. You may not see the real numbers show up on that until April 1.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's correct. A good friend of mine recently pointed this out to me. It's been a while since we've seen any sort of pullback in government hiring. And so what we're going through right now might be overdue. And so it might seem greater and feel, again, back to the feel more painful than maybe it really should be. But a big part of that could be because It hasn't really happened, and because it's overdue and it's built up so much, it seems worse than it really is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Scott, we have gotten into the habit in this country, and this is long, long overdue, because in my entire lifetime, the theory always was if you go to work for government, city, state, feds, whatever, once you go to work for them, you're going to have a job for life. Unless you royally screw up and end up in prison... or die, you're liable to not lose that job. And by the way, that is something that, in my opinion, needs to be completely reversed. You need to perform to keep your job. Just because you have it doesn't mean you keep it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I would agree. I still don't understand. Look, I think lifetime pensions, because that's Why shouldn't you be treated just like every other employee at every other company? And you pay money into a 401K and a retirement plan. Look, you're a cop or a firefighter, and you're part of the military, and you're getting shot at. That's a different story. I get that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
You guys are putting their lives on the line. I agree with you.
SPEAKER 07 :
They deserve it.
SPEAKER 09 :
But others, like doing some of these other things, You know, if you go serve in Congress for four years, you shouldn't get a lifetime pension. I agree. You shouldn't have a different health care plan than you're voting to put on other people. You should be just like the rest of us because they get back to another thing you were talking about earlier. You're there to serve us. We're not there to serve you.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. That's right. What you would do, Scott, in doing some of the things you just said is de-incentivize certain people from getting into politics, what I call grifter politicians. You would discourage grifter politicians from ever getting in the game in the first place if you changed what you just talked about. And you'd have better politicians, by the way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and the role of going – so our forefathers, when they founded the government, in my mind, it wasn't so you get there to go rich. Nope. It was because – You went to serve. You've had a good – yeah, you've had a good career maybe, and you went there because – you want to do things to make the country better, more sound.
SPEAKER 07 :
In some cases, Scott, it was even the opposite. In some cases, these guys were really young, and they went to actually have a better country that they could come back to and then serve in their private life. So in some cases, yes, they had a good career and then served. In some cases, they were pretty young and served because they knew what the outcome would be on the flip side. Either way, they went to serve, not be lifelong politicians.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, that's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. Scott, as always, I appreciate it. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, sure. Link in Twitter, Instagram, or Substack. See Scott Garlis.
SPEAKER 07 :
Scott, I always appreciate it. Appreciate you very much. Thanks for your time. All right, man, have a great evening. And Scott's a good guy. He thinks a lot like we do. Not a lot. He thinks like we do. We talk back and forth throughout the week on different things, and he's a solid guy, really understands the investment end of things very, very well. Speaking of interest rates, where are things going to go when it comes to mortgages and so on? You know, folks, I don't know, but I do believe that Kurt can tell you everything you need to know when it comes to a mortgage. Give Kurt a call today, Affordable Interest Mortgage, 720-895-0500.
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All right, got a couple of minutes to close out today, and because I was talking to Scott Garlis about this with the political grifters, might as well close with this, because frankly, there's far too many of them on both sides of the aisle. The left has them, and you're darn right, we have them as well. I'm sorry to say. There's a lot of folks, I believe, and again, I've been on air for, I don't know, 11 plus years now, And I can tell you by interviewing all sorts of different politicians, having conversations directly with politicians and so on, it's like anything else. There's some really good ones. Solid. You know, they love America. They want to do what's best. They're not in it for themselves. They're in it for the country or their community or whatever the case may be. And they're looking out for whatever that best interest is of those folks that they're trying to represent. And I do believe there's some really good, solid people along those lines. And by the way. Those are typically people. This is kind of my kind of my test. And I could be completely wrong in this. And if I am, you guys can text me and correct me if I'm wrong. But I typically look at that test as have they been successful? Outside of politics in their own life, whereby they don't need politics to fund what they're doing moving forward. In other words, have they been able to make enough money and do things in their life like a Vivek, like a Elon Musk, like a Donald Trump, like a I can go down the list of a lot of good politicians that I feel are good and have the country's best interests at heart because they don't need that to further their career. On the same token, I can look at some politicians, both sides of the aisle, and say, are they really in this for the community, and are they in this for the long haul, or are they in it for themselves, and are they just a political grifter? In other words, if they've never really done anything other than be in politics, what are they really in it for? Now, there is always an exception. Our governor is an exception to this. He's a guy that, yes, made a lot of money prior to ever getting into politics. Now, in his case, I believe he got into politics mainly because he wants to be president someday. This is an ego thing for him more than it is anything else. He's not in it for the people. He's still in it for himself. Even though he's made money and done things, and I don't call him a political grifter because that's not what Polis is. No, he's a political opportunist. He's looking at what can he gain politically speaking and further himself along. He didn't care anything about the community or Colorado or anything along those lines. This is all about him. So he is an exception to what I just said. But generally speaking, people that get into politics that have already made a name for themselves, they've made some money, they've done whatever, they're typically getting into politics for a completely different set of reasons than what I call those political grifters. So one of the tests that I use, even among our own Republicans, are what have you done prior to this? Kind of what I was talking about in regards to the state chair. And who was going to be that? And as it turned out, Britta Horne got elected. Britta's done some things and accomplished things in life outside of politics, which I admire her for. There were some others running that, frankly, haven't done anything outside of politics. And I don't want them, by the way, leading the party. I want people that have done other things in life, had real jobs, if you would, that I want leading the party. I don't want just politicians, which, by the way, is what Dave Williams was as well. I don't want just politicians running the party. I want people that understand what the real person out there goes through on a daily basis. So I can talk more about that in the future, but I have a very much utter disdain for political grifters, and there's far too many on both sides of the aisle, and at the end of the day, they don't serve us well either way, either side of the aisle, I'm afraid to say so. A lot more to come tomorrow. Have a great evening. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
As health expert Michael Bailey joins John Rush, listeners are treated to a compelling discussion on the intersection of physical health and estate arrangements. Stress is a theme throughout the episode, as the hosts discuss how significant life events can become manageable with proper planning. Real-life anecdotes highlight the impact of estate disputes and the peace of mind that can be achieved by handling these affairs with foresight and care.
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You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Welcome to Health and Wellness Wednesdays on Rush to Reason. Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, sir.
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I have what doctors call a little bit of a weight problem. I used to grab bear claws as a kid, two at a time, and I'd get them lodged right in this region here.
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Exorcist gives you endorphins. Endorphins make you happy. Happy people just don't shoot their husbands.
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Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.
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I'm sorry that I'm fat. All right, welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560 Health and Wellness Wednesday Edition. Michael Bailey with us as well. We try to get him to hang around after his own program because this fits into health and wellness. And some would say, well, wait a minute, how's estate planning? health and wellness? Well, it has to do with your overall health because at some point in time that ends. Right. But it really, Michael, in most cases, or in all cases, I should say, really has more to do with the health and wellness of those you're leaving behind because stress is a... is a... Killer. Yep. Literally. We talk about that in this program this hour a lot. And trust me, having a death in the family is stressful enough already. Right. Nonetheless, not having things dialed in prior to that happening and then leaving all of that on the backs of the folks you leave behind. Yeah, that's kind of the worst thing you could possibly do. I've unfortunately, unfortunately, you have way more than I, but I've seen it happen far too often. And yes, it is extremely stressful for those you leave behind.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, your losses that you've experienced and, you know, stressful and, you know, difficult on you, and you're a very capable and resilient person, but you still, we can all see that it takes a toll on you. It does. It absolutely does. I mean, I think of the silliest example I can think of is when, so a little over six years ago, we lost a puppy dog. She was fine on Monday and gone on Tuesday. And my wife had never had puppy dogs live a whole life cycle at her parents' house. They always were there for six months to a year, and then they went to live on the farm or just disappeared. Gotcha. But, you know, we'd had the puppy dog for 13 years. And then, you know, we had to let her go. You get pretty attached. Right. But the next day my wife was sad and she was crying. She's like, I just want the dog so that I can sit and pet her. And so she's like, so the thing that was causing her the stress would have been the thing that would have helped relieve the stress. Right. But the puppy dog was gone. So puppy dog was the cause of the stress and not the release of the stress. Great point. And, you know, just, you know, so if your parents are gone... usually your parents are there to help relieve your stress, not to make it worse. In a lot of cases. And so you've turned what was supposed to be helping you into something that suddenly is a drain on you. It's a great point. And you don't, you've lost that support system.
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You had never really thought about it that way here. You're a hundred percent correct. That's exactly what happens now. I know the reverse can happen and they always say that, you know, you're not supposed to bury your kids. Sure. Well, that happens sometimes as well. And that's not any fun either, because typically there's also some comfort in that end of things going back and forth as well. So the same thing happens there.
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Yeah. I mean, and whether it's your adult children, you know, we have we have a friend who her son was killed in Afghanistan. And there has been fights and controversies about the mom had taken out a life insurance policy on the son before he went off to Afghanistan. And his new wife, they'd been married about six months when he was killed. She thought the life insurance policy should pay out to her and not to mom, even though mom was the one who took the policy and was paying the premiums. And they had huge fights where they'll probably never speak with each other about it again.
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Which is not what son wanted.
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No, it's not. Guaranteed. I mean, son probably... I mean, I imagine he didn't want to die in war. But he probably may not even have known or cared that mom took out a life insurance policy. But somehow you get death and then you get money involved. And so now you have death and money. And sometimes parents kept the peace about money. And now you're going, what in the world? It just kind of all opens up and explodes all over everything. And you're like, what are we supposed to do here?
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Some families do really well at the money and stuff. Other families, not so much, I guess I should say, Michael. And what I've learned also along those lines, and this I think is a misconception, some think, well, I don't have that much to worry about, so it's not a big deal. You would be surprised, and you wouldn't because Michael has seen this.
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No, I would not.
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But those of you listening, you would be surprised at the things people will fight over that even to the person that has left it, didn't think much about it in the first place, but what got left behind is now all of a sudden a major deal. Right.
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And it's silly things. I mean, I think of my wife's... It can be a coffee mug. I mean, literally, Michael, it can be anything. Yeah. My wife's grandfather, who's deceased, he was a... traveling sales rep for like winchester okay and he had this big shadow case would be like the size of you know like almost one of the walls in the studio right and it had all sorts of knives and hatchets and all sorts of really just super cool things oh yeah and a guy like me that's super cool yeah i mean it's it's it was just you know that's cool all the antique things absolutely and you know oddly enough it was a it was a hot commodity well my mother-in-law picked it up one time when she was there and said, hey mom, can I have this? And mom said, sure. And so she took it and it was at their house. Well, then when grandma died and You know, sister was like, well, hey, where's the knife collection? She's like, well, grandma gave it to us. Well, that wasn't grandma's to give. It kind of was.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, suddenly. That's how it happens. It's a knife collection or, you know, the taxidermied marlin fish that he had caught.
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The jackalope. Yeah, exactly. Yesterday was National Jackalope Day, by the way. Oh, was it?
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Yeah. Okay.
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April Fool's.
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Well, you know, I've hit a couple of jackalopes in Wyoming, so I can testify they're real.
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I mean, we're laughing only because, you know, you can make light of some of this and try to laugh through some of this. But I will tell you in all seriousness, when these things happen and this gets to rolling along and Michael knows this firsthand, nobody's laughing. No. People are angry. They're mad. They're upset. There's all sorts of things going on. Michael knows this as well. Emotions get really high, especially in these particular circumstances. Where we're going with all this, by the way, is call Michael on the front side. Get your will and your estate all established and done and handled. And then you can avoid... all of those things as well. And not only that, but Michael, in my own story with, you know, like my mom and the situation we went through this last summer with her last fall, just having even the, you know, your DNRs and all of the things that you need to handle things, even while somebody is still alive, but there's decisions that have to be made, having all of those things done on the front side makes everything for the family that much easier. It's incredibly important.
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I mean, so your mom went through a medical procedure, if I remember correctly, and then never came out of it. Correct. Well, I mean, are we going to put that on? You are going to say, hey, why don't you decide whether or not mom lives or dies? And you're not the only kid. Right. So now other people are involved. And, you know, there's usually there's one who wants to be, oh, everything has to be, you know, you can't ever let mom go because, you know, we're going to do everything we can to save mom. Right. Up until the point where there's absolutely nothing left to be able to do. Right. And then there's a person who's like, oh, well, mom's not going to make it. Cool. Let her go. We need to move on with our lives. And that's the spectrum. And everybody in between and getting everybody to agree can be almost impossible.
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Yep. We have a question, which is fine. We'll take these very much. Steve, go ahead, man. What's your question? Go for it.
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Good afternoon, gentlemen. And Counselor Barry, a quick question on conservatorships. The condensed version is we have a sister-in-law in the family. wife, sister, obviously, and she has been stroke impaired since 2010, seizure impaired since adolescence, and it's going to become more and more important to get a conservatorship. She has the assets to be anywhere, and we've just got to get this thing done. And talking with the wife, my understanding is about $5,000 to $10,000 for a conservatorship. Is that your understanding?
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Yes. Um, somewhere in that neighborhood is what my friends who charge, who, who do conservatorships charge for that. Yes. And that is that something you do or no, I do not know.
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Okay. I guess Andrew said, thank you much. You're very welcome. Okay. So it's really quick. 10,000 foot version. What is all of that?
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A conservatorship is if you don't set up a financial power of attorney so that somebody can make decisions for you and then you become incapacitated, It's too late to set up that power of attorney. But you're still alive. But you're still alive. Okay. So say like so my – I have set up a power of attorney so that my wife can make decisions for me. If not my wife, then my brother-in-law and sister-in-law. Right. We've got it set up. Right. Well, if I hadn't done that and I become unable to make my own decisions, then – You have to go to court to have the court appoint somebody to make your financial decisions for you. I see. So that's what a conservatorship is. I see. And that process is lengthy and costly and so on. Anything that has court. Yes. When you have to go through the court to do things.
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Anything with that name in it ends up being expensive, right?
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Right. There we go. Because courts don't exactly move quickly.
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No, and you're not smart enough nor able to represent yourself in that case. You need somebody that knows the system, right? You might be able to do it. I'm not.
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I don't know too many people that can, by the way. Right. But it's so much easier to, like, hey, I've got a power of attorney. So I'm going to charge you $125 for a power of attorney. Cool. Now you don't have to spend $5,000 to $10,000 on a conservatorship. That's a great example. Given his situation that his sister may not have ever been able to execute a power of attorney, it's nice that we have that extra thing there. Okay. But if we're going to get the courts involved and we're going to do it what I would consider the hard way, it becomes more difficult.
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Okay.
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Makes sense.
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How far out are you on getting things done? July 7th through the 11th. Okay. So those of you listening, get this done sooner than later because the schedule continues to fill up. Find Michael, by the way. Go to klzradio.com. Go to rushtoreason.com. You can go to drive-radio.com. Anywhere you find me, you're going to find Michael. And what's your number if they want to call you directly? 720-394-6887. And that's 720-394-6887. Perfect. Thanks, as always.
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Appreciate you, Michael. Okay.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560 Health and Wellness Wednesday. Yesterday's impossible question, which moon of Jupiter has the most liquid water beneath its surface? That would be Europa. And actually, somebody got that right yesterday and said we know that because we have sent vessels there to discover those things. So thank you, by the way, for saying that yesterday. I appreciate that. Today's impossible question, what is the term for animals that are active during twilight hours? What is the term for animals that are active during twilight hours? That is the question of the day. Answer that again on our Facebook page, Rush to Reason Facebook page. And interesting article. I'll squeeze this in here before we go to Troy Duell here at the bottom of the hour. Troy was going to be with us last week, had a late, you know, last-minute emergency that came up, so he agreed to join us today, which we'll get to him here in just a little bit. But there is an article in, of all places, the... Atlantic, which we all know where the Atlantic stands. In fact, that was one of the reporters that was involved in the signal texting string and so on that we learned about here recently. Anyways. Article that I was reading today, America is done pretending about meat. Plant-based eating has lost its appeal. Now, first things first, we – really? I think maybe for – Some, it may have lost its appeal, or meat at some point might have lost its appeal, and people went over to the plant sides of things, but I was not one of those. And most of the people that I know, that wasn't the case either. In fact, I can probably... I can probably list on, I'm not joking here, on one hand, the amount of people I know that don't eat meat. I just don't know that many. Nothing against those that choose not to, by the way. I just don't know that many. Now, I know some that eat more meat than others, and I just happen to be – you all probably know that just from listening. I'm a meat eater. That's just me. You put any kind of protein, meat in front of me, not tofu and all that nonsense, but chicken, salmon, any kind of good fish, a steak – On down the line we go. Pork, I'll eat it. Absolutely. And I have to, at times, remember that, yes, I need to eat vegetables and things along those lines. But this whole article basically is talking about the fact that it seems like the – and I would call it a fad. I think that's what Charlie and I a few years ago even would have called going to the vegan side. And being vegan is even, I know, different from even being a vegetarian, and I get that. But this whole idea that meat is bad – i think it's starting to fizzle out this article is basically talking about that as well and i think what people are learning is types of individuals that have gone that direction and gone to a totally plant-based diet, they start having other health issues because there's not enough protein in their diet when they do so. And what do I mean by other health issues? They can have everything from hair loss to other types of ailments that can come along their way from just not having enough protein in their diet. And no, and we all know this, Eating other types of protein, because yes, I know there's protein in other things besides just meat, chicken, pork, red meat, and so on. But the reality is, I guess it's the way God made things, they're not the same. It's not the same. So the more you start studying... the downsides of being a vegetarian and you know again no judgment if that's something that you've chosen to do in your world and it works for you you know what that's fine and if you've ended up being healthier and everything works for you that's great and by the way you're probably an anomaly when it comes to some of these things because by and large the majority of people that switch over to a plant-based diet only don't fare as well as you think Now, I think the other thing that happens in that world, and I think Charlie would agree with me on this, is a lot of those folks, they wouldn't tell you that they didn't feel bad just because they don't want anybody knowing they wouldn't. In other words, maybe they don't have the same energy they once had, or maybe they're not as sharp or they're not as focused as they once were, things along those lines. I'll just say it straight up. A lot of them are not going to tell you that because they don't want to admit that they're wrong, by the way. Now, I'm always careful and cautious when it comes to different studies that say different things because you have to look at who actually did the study, who paid for the study, how are some of the questions worded, what did they actually study, how many people are actually participants in said study, so on and so forth. But I think what you're starting to see, and there's more and more data coming out on this, that a total plant-based diet – is not as good for people as what they first thought it was or what what they once thought it was and and again i'm not campaigning one way or the other against or for any particular way of of having you know having your diet go you have to do that on your own we talk about that a lot with the different people that i even interview here i am 100 percent against one size fits all In other words, well, my buddy in the cubicle next to me did such and such, and it worked really well for him, so I think I'll go on that diet. Slow down. That may have worked extremely well for that particular person, but it may not for you. And I think you've even heard Dr. Kelly on Thursdays talk about this quite often. I mean, I think a lot of – far too many people – go the quick fix, and this is where Dr. Kelly and I agree, they'll go the quick fix, and I want a shot of this, or I want this special pill, or I want that, or whatever the case may be. And no, I'm not for that. Without doing some of the work necessary, no, I don't agree with doing it that way either. Now, the one thing where Dr. Kelly and I probably will disagree a little bit is I do think there are times where there are certain individuals and some of you know who you are, that you have done all the different types of diets. You have been disciplined. You have done all the things necessary, whether it be eating right, exercising, you name it. And for whatever reason, you just need a little extra kick to get things going. And that's where I do believe that doctors like Dr. Scott, for example, can come into play and say, listen, maybe there's something else we can do medically speaking. You know, drug wise, even even homopathic things that may help you kickstart your metabolism and get some things going in the right direction. And maybe there's something else going on with your body that we better let's find out. Let's double check to make sure that everything is the way it should be. Or if it's not, let's fix that. And by the way, I don't think Dr. Kelly would agree with me on what I just said there. I agree with her that far too many people just go the easy, quick fix without actually looking into what they're actually doing. But I'm also one to say that I think there's all sorts of things out there in the marketplace. Dr. Scott's one of those that can even explain what these things are when it comes to losing weight, getting more healthy, doing all these different things. And no, I don't think, like Dr. Kelly, that everybody needs to be on a GLP. On the same token, I think there's some benefits to GLPs depending upon you, your body makeup, your DNA potentially, and some things along those lines. Now, going back to this article, I also think that you need to be very well-rounded in your diet, and nobody can live on one thing alone. You can't live on just red meat. You can't just live on chicken. You can't just live on fish. You can't just live on veggies. You need to have, and most every single nutritionist that we bring on this program on Wednesdays and talk to them, they will all tell you the same thing. It needs to be well-rounded. You need to have a variety. And by the way, I think you need to have a variety, personally speaking. I think your body recognizes... certain things and can get into certain patterns and will react accordingly if it gets used to the same thing over and over again changing things up keeps that from happening that's my take I'm not a nutritionist I am NOT a dietitian but I do know enough from interviewing people and studying it and losing a lot of weight well over 10 years ago actually it's been 15 years ago now I do know that there are certain things that can go on in your body to where your body can even plateau And having something change up in your diet to get away from that plateau is exactly what you need to be doing to keep things moving forward. So, again, interesting article in The Atlantic. I didn't read this entire thing word for word. I'll be straight up honest because, again, it is. the Atlantic. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. Troy Duhl joining us now. Troy, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Good, John.
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How are you, man? I'm doing great. Always enjoy having you. I appreciate it very much. As we enter into the springtime, A, allergies are at an all-time high, as you can tell from listening to me. But let's talk about the good, the bad, and the not worth it when it comes to treats, health, wellness, all of that as we head down this stretch in the summer.
SPEAKER 07 :
that's a tough one to tackle, especially when we've got Easter coming up and a lot of people jumping into some jelly beans and other treats that are out there.
SPEAKER 20 :
You certainly want to be careful. And, you know, Troy, it's funny because – well, maybe it's not funny. I think it's by design. It seems like every single time, you know, you and I talk, there is some sort of a – holiday event something coming along that involves this so it's like well wait a minute i just got done trying to be good for thanksgiving and then it's christmas so i just get done being really good for christmas and new year's and then it's uh you know this whole valentine's thing and then we go from that into where we are now and then pretty soon as memorial i mean really troy this is something we have to learn because it's ongoing right uh you are absolutely correct and
SPEAKER 07 :
It seems like one of the biggest celebration events we can have as individuals is food, and the sweet tooth seems to win the day because it is so addictive, and sugar is certainly that way.
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Well, yeah, we talk about that a lot during this hour. That is, I believe, you know, by design not in what sugar is, but what has been done with sugar by sugar lobbyist groups and others. I mean, I think the reality is once people, you know, once... Once an industry, let me say it this way, Troy, learned how much money they could make off of that drug, they soon realized that, wait a minute, time out. We can make more money on this than these guys selling cocaine and other things they're doing, which back in those days was legal. Reality is sugar won out.
SPEAKER 07 :
It definitely did. And if you look at our foods, there is no doubt that sugar has been added because they know that it increases our desire for it. So there are studies out there that show sugar – lights up the same area of the brain that cocaine does, which is what you mentioned earlier. So because of that, the more sugar we add into our foods, the more addicted we become, and it's amazing what it's in. I mean, you've got it in salad dressings. For whatever reason, they add sugar into that and pastas and cheeses. I mean, you name it, and they've put sugar in it because they know that it keeps us coming back for more.
SPEAKER 20 :
I don't think folks realize this. Maybe some do. Maybe some do, Troy. But the majority of dishes that you eat out – and, folks, hear me out when I say this. And, Troy, you can correct me if I'm wrong. But the majority of dishes that you eat out – so say, for example, you go and get XYZ at the restaurant versus what you would make at home – The chances of it having not only sugar but a substantial amount of it at the restaurant versus what you make at home, it's probably, Troy, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll bet it's four, five to one. You know, one being home, five being the restaurant. Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 07 :
I would say you are probably dead on, and especially in the case of any of those processed foods or prepackaged foods that you get from the grocery store. So restaurants can vary from restaurant to restaurant in what you get, but certainly going to have more sugar in that than you will at home because – we're not usually in the habit of adding sugar to all of our foods at the house.
SPEAKER 20 :
You mentioned the pasta dish, and I just know that typically at a restaurant, they're going to add some sugar to that dish whereby your recipe at home probably isn't going to have that. They're going to sugar and salt that dish up because it makes you want more of it. It makes you want to keep coming back for more, I guess, Troy, is the best way for me to say that, and the restaurant industry knows that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. And I mean, we're all privy to that and we're all going to fall prey to it because it does taste better. Anytime there's sugar in there, it tastes better and it is lighting up that pleasure center in our brains that make us happy. Want to keep on coming back for more.
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And a little tip to all of you listening, by the way, is if you're out or if you're somebody that's wanting to really be, you know, aware of what you're eating and really be healthy and you're trying to cut some weight or do some things along those lines and try and just know some of this from... losing weight over 15 years ago, you can order things out and say, for example, you want to order the salmon or you want to order that steak. Just make sure you say, listen, all I want is some seasoning and nothing else added because what's going on back in the kitchen, trust me, there's a lot of things that that's getting cooked in unless you do what I just said.
SPEAKER 07 :
You are absolutely correct. And, you know, on top of that, making sure that if it's a dressing, put it on the side because you won't put as much dressing on your food as the restaurant does. That's right. That's certainly one good trick as well.
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So for all of you listening, please, just as another note here, and Troy, I've not found too many restaurants that wouldn't, because they understand the dietary restrictions and different things that are going on in the marketplace and so on. I've yet to find a restaurant that won't do those things, but you have to ask. If you don't, they're just going to throw it on like they always do.
SPEAKER 07 :
You got that right, because it is a system. And in the back, they've got a process of doing things, and they don't want to change that system unless you make them change it. And they will accommodate you because they don't want you to be upset, and they know the benefits. the happier you are with your food, the more likely you are to come back. So don't be afraid to do that. I think they're used to it and getting more used to it. But if you don't say anything, they certainly won't change a thing.
SPEAKER 20 :
By the way, that includes, hey, instead of having that hamburger with a bun, can you put that between two pieces of lettuce for me? And instead of having fries, can you throw some extra veggies on there for me instead? And you know what, Troy? The majority of restaurants will say, sure, we can do that, because really at the end of the day, their cost didn't change.
SPEAKER 07 :
You got that right. And a lot of times, especially if you get that side salad or you get those veggies, they may charge you an extra dollar. But ultimately, if you pay an extra dollar and you've got better health, that's a good way to go.
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All right. So now, when it comes to, though, the savory sides of things, and I am not a... ogre. I'm not going to tell somebody, never have a dessert, never have this, never have that. I am one, Troy, that believes you can do all of this, still enjoy some things periodically. It has to be done with balance, of course. You can't just have a cupcake for every meal, of course, but can you have a cupcake periodically or have that piece of chocolate cake periodically? I think you can, and my recommendation, too, on that, and I want to get your thoughts on this. Let's say that you're out... You're out for that Easter dinner, and you're going to have that dessert, and it's a big, nice, you know, large-sized piece of cake. You know what? Trim off one sliver of it, eat that, box the rest up, and have that over the next several days.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think that's a great strategy. You know, the other one that I always like to put in place is I'm not going to have desserts unless it's Saturday, or I won't have desserts the full week prior until that Easter celebration or Easter dinner. So they're great. certainly different ways to skin the cat. But one thing that I think everybody needs to understand is just because it may have some artificial sweeteners in it or other things, it does not necessarily mean that it's going to be healthy. I always say you can't make something that's unhealthy healthy by substituting some other false sugar in there. So always remember that.
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Oh, no, in fact, Troy, my wife and I have this discussion quite often. There are some of the, and I hope I'm okay in saying this again, if not, correct me, but I will go as far as to say that there are some sugar substitutes that, frankly, folks, you're better off just having the sugar than you would be having the sugar substitute. That's my theory.
SPEAKER 07 :
I totally agree, and I think the evidence shows that. They show that those people who drink more diet drinks actually have greater belly fat, and they have other issues that go along with it, much like the issues that come along with having too much sugar itself. So you're not getting away from those cravings. We know that the sucralose and the other things are about 700 times stronger sweeter to the palate so it gets you craving it even more so a lot of times we would we can cool ourselves into thinking well this is a diet thing so i can eat more of it well then you've just defeated the whole purpose of of having that item okay are there certain this is one thing i'm not really up on so if you can help us with this it would even help me are there certain types of
SPEAKER 20 :
foods that we can let's say we're going to dinner we know that we're out we may have a dessert a little bit later we've prepared for that by some of the things that you've even mentioned i don't have dessert for the you know previous two weeks or longer but i might go ahead and splurge that particular this particular event but are there other things that we can do even in the meal we order or that we have in preparation for in other words are there different types of foods that would even make us not want to eat as much of that dessert as we normally would
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think if you limit the amount of sugar you're getting in your normal diet in your meal prior to that dessert, you've already reduced that craving a considerable amount. So definitely don't have sodas with your meals because, you know, I don't think we've talked about it, but the average American consumes about 77 grams of added sugar per day. One Coke, one Coke, eight-ounce Coke gets you 39 grams. Wow. recommendation that the American Heart Association has is 36 grams a day for a male and 24 grams per day for a female. So that one Coke blows that whole number. So avoid any sugary foods or that creamed corn that may come with your meal or the sweet potatoes or the mashed potatoes that may have some other sweet piece to it because The more you take it in, the greater your craving is going to be, and then you'll finish that plus the dessert. So prepare yourself well.
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Before I forget, since you're from Centurion Labs and you guys have all sorts of great supplements and they're just fabulous, we've talked about that in the past, and for those of you maybe that don't know what these are, just go to the website, check it out, Centurion Labs. And I guess the question that I've got along those lines, though, Troy, is, Are there certain supplements that help with everything that we're talking about? In other words, are there supplements that I can be taking daily that would help reduce some of those cravings? Are there things that I can follow up with after a particular meal like we're talking about? How can we use some of what you have and offer to help us in this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think there are definitely those that are out there that we know certain ingredients are going to help. So they've done plenty of studies on cinnamon, for instance. And we know that cinnamon can help control blood sugar. It can help really regulate that blood sugar. So that's a great way to do it. There are things like licorice root, bitter melon, all those type little pieces that you can put together. And they have studied each of those ingredients to say, hey, there are ways that we can help control our blood sugar and not get to the point of of having some kind of issue with diabetes or prediabetes or any of those other things. But it all starts. Obviously, those things are great. But if you're still eating poorly, it's only going to help so much. So you've got to help by changing the diet and then coming in and adding some of these things. to really minimize the consequences of the sugar that we do eat, that sometimes we aren't aware of, and to minimize some of those things like genes that we have that may make us a little predisposed to some of that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 20 :
I had a question that came in on the text line, too, asking about raw honey and specifically manuka honey. Is there anything to any of that as far as the health benefits go?
SPEAKER 07 :
There are a ton of studies out there that are showing – that honey is actually a beneficial sugar in many ways. Now, I probably wouldn't drink honey on a regular basis, but if you're going to have some kind of sweetener, then they've found that honey is probably one of the best because – It's got things that have shown to lower fasting blood sugar levels. It's reduced bad cholesterol, and it's increased good cholesterol. So we know that that fructose that's in honey is totally different than the processed fructose that we get in all the other foods and processed foods that we have.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, and I have read some of those same studies, and I also am a believer, and some of you listening might think I'm crazy, but I'm also a believer in if you can find local unfiltered honey and you really struggle with allergies, which I will be the first to tell you that prior to Losing a bunch of weight back in 2010, I was one of those that had an allergy problem pretty much year-round, 12 months out of the year. In fact, at one point in time, Troy, I did the whole, you know, they prick your back and mark it all up and on and on you go. And it was awful. All I can say is that was one of the most awful experiences as a young adult that I could ever imagine. It's one of those things I struggled with forever. I will say, though, eating correctly... losing weight, and then on top of that, I do have a tablespoon or two every morning of local unfiltered honey that I do think, and maybe it's just me, maybe it's a placebo, I don't know if it actually works or not, but for me, I have about two weeks out of the year, which is right now that I struggle the most with allergies, and outside of that, I don't have much issues with them anymore.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you're dead on because I think studies have verified that All that anecdotal evidence that we've had over the years and that we've heard that local honey, because they're pulling in all the pollen from the local plants, seems to really be a benefit on the allergy side. A quick throw in, I know we're talking about sugar, but quercetin is one that we talked a lot about during COVID. Well, quercetin is one of those that a lot of even ENTs, especially older ENTs, use to give a natural defense against allergies. So if you're not taking a quercetin supplement this time of year, maybe a good thing to add into the mix.
SPEAKER 20 :
Good to know. Troy, give us your website so folks can find you, sir.
SPEAKER 07 :
Actually, we have just changed it, so it is now centurion.health, so it makes it a little bit easier. So it's C-E-N-T-U-R-I-O-N dot health, H-E-A-L-T-H.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right, perfect. I will put that in our notes, and we'll make that change. And, Troy, as always, I appreciate you. You're always gracious. Appreciate you very, very much and all that you do for us.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, thank you, sir.
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All right, we are back. A couple of minutes left here of this Health and Wellness Wednesday, which I always appreciate you guys listening, all the text messages that come in as well, and all the different guests that we have on. And one thing else that I would throw out to all of you as well, if there's somebody that you follow or somebody that... you think might be a great guest. I can't guarantee you that we can have them on, but I will do my very best to at least check into it and find out exactly what's going on and what we could do there and so on, and I'm always welcome for that. So if you've got anybody along those lines that you think would be a good fit for us, please, please let us know. And I got a question that came in late on the text line about Quercetin, which I think he answered okay if not by the way i will say this also about troy if you have a specific question about any of his supplements or whatever the case just go to his website send in a message and they he will answer it and and you know take it from there he is that kind of an individual or he has no problem uh answering questions anything along those lines uh he is an absolute uh joy to work with i will say that immensely and troy's just a great guy so if you've ever got a question specifically about any of his different products or even a product he doesn't carry but you have a question you'd like to have answered and you feel like he'd be a good source for that answer by all means reach out to troy and i can tell you right now that he will have no problem and answering your question especially if you tell him that you're one of our listeners I will tell you straight up that he will have no problem taking care of you and answering those questions and that's true by the way for all the folks that we have on on a routine basis they will do the exact same thing but I know that Troy especially is just one of those individuals he's just so gracious to us and just love having him on on a regular basis All right, that's it for this first hour of Health and Wellness Wednesday. As I say all the time, if you want to go back and listen to a previous episode, go right to the website, RushToReason.com. You can listen to our previous episodes. I know a lot of folks do because the National Crawford Roundtable plays in Hour 3 on Wednesday. So if you want to listen to this hour or send it on to somebody else, just again, go to our website, RushToReason.com. That's it for this hour. We'll be right back. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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welcome to the flatline with your host rick hughes for the next 30 minutes you'll be inspired motivated educated but never manipulated now your host rick hughes good morning and welcome to the flatline i'm your host rick hughes please for the next few minutes stay with me just a short time of motivation some inspiration a whole lot of education
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And you remember we do it without manipulation. We don't try to con people. We're not soliciting you for money. We're not asking you to join anything. The objective of this show is to simply give you accurate information. Hopefully information that will help you verify as well as identify God's plan for your life so that you can orient and adjust to the plan. if you want to. That's really up to you. But the Flotline has been on the air for 13 years. Many of you have been listening. Thank you for listening. Thank you for letting me know the show is playing in your area. I'm very grateful when my spotters out there say, yes, it did play today. Good. We like to hear that. And if you have anything you'd like to send us and tell us that you're learning, always love to hear from you. You can email us from our website, rick at rickhughesministries.org. rick at rickhughesministries.org. Or simply go to rickhughesministries.org and you'll see how to email from there. And, of course, we have our material that's available, books and different things that we've written and we've published free of charge, never a charge, for anything we do on this radio station. We believe in operating by grace. That means if God's in it, he'll pay for it. If not, we'll shut the doors and go do something else. So thank you. Thank you for being here. Please listen up today. You may remember last Sunday we talked about the core values of the mature believer. Those core values are built around the flat line in your soul which is made up of those 10 problem-solving devices. 10 unique problem-solving devices taught in the Word of God. beginning with the rebound technique, it solves the problem of sin, moving to the filling of the Holy Spirit that solves the problem of the genetically formed sin nature that wants to control your life, moving to the problem-solving device of the faith rest drill that solves the problem of unforeseen circumstances and disasters that may hit your life, and then Moving into grace orientation as a problem-solving device, understanding we're saved by grace, we live by grace, we treat others in grace. Moving from there into doctrinal orientation, which means that we now begin to develop a new way of thinking. We make a course adjustment in our life. We begin to think with terms of grace. divine viewpoint instead of human viewpoint, and that comes from the Bible doctrine in our soul. This gives us another problem-solving device called having a personal sense of destiny, beginning to realize that my life is about more than just me. beginning to understand what God's plan for me is, what my spiritual gift is, and where I fit into this thing. It's a wonderful thing to walk through the door with a personal sense of destiny and leave your agenda behind. This is all developed by personal love for God, which is a problem-solving device, our greatest virtue we have. The Bible says, if you love me, you'll obey me, and my mandates are not hard. That's 1 John 5, 3. So virtue love is the greatest motivation for the believer. We love him, the Bible says, because he first loved us in 1 John. And he did for John 3.16. God so loved the world. He loved you and loved me before we even thought about him. And so from personal love for God, we develop the problem-solving device of impersonal love for others. This lets us deal with people that don't necessarily like us, people that we don't necessarily like ourselves, people that are weird, obnoxious, rude. We can still love them through using impersonal love in our lives. It's a wonderful operational tool for you. Then this leads us to sharing the happiness of God, plus H, the happiness of God. What a wonderful way to live. Jesus talked about it. Happiness belongs to those people who hear my Father's word and keep it. So it is possible for you to have a lifestyle of happiness in your life. And from there to move into occupation with Christ, the final problem-solving device for us. If it's no longer I, but Christ in me, Paul talked about. For me to live is Christ, to die is profit. So there we have it. These are 10 unique problem-solving devices that we could go into in great depth on each one of them, and we may do that soon. We may go back through and review all of those, but those are where your core values come in. Without understanding core values, you can never have the fundamental beliefs of that you need to sustain your life in the devil's world. They are the guiding principles in your life that should dictate your behavior and help you understand the difference between right and wrong. It's sometimes hard to understand what evil is. Evil is a genius Satan. The genius of Satan is called evil. And the most evil thing in the world is organized religion. It was organized religion that crucified our Lord, and it is organized religion that opposes grace today. So if we operate with these core values, we have a divine establishment system in our soul. We're called the royal family. So we learn the royal family honor code. I hope you've heard me talk about that last week. There is a code for the aristocracy of those who are in Christ Jesus. It's an honor code, and it relates to personal integrity in our relationship with others using impersonal love, and only can that function as we are filled with God's Holy Spirit through rebound. As we learn the word and make a course correction in our thinking and treat people in grace, then our destiny becomes clear to us. So this code we develop, this code we adhere to in our life is essential. And therefore, we're told in 2 Timothy 2.15, we are to study to show ourselves approved unto God. If you must be approved, then obviously you could be disapproved. That doesn't mean you're not saved anymore. It just means that God said, nope, you're not cutting it. It's like the football player that has all the talent and all the strength and speed and beauty and all of that, but he doesn't know the plays. So the coach can't trust him, can't put him in the game. He doesn't know the plays. As a member of God's royal family, you must know the plays. You must understand the code of ethics that are in the word of God. You must understand that aristocracy of the royal family has a standard based on the example set by our Lord Jesus Christ. That's why it's essential that we understand God's protocol plan because that's where the honor is produced. That's where the integrity comes from, the protocol plan of God, which simply means a right thing must be done in a right way because absolute truth will tolerate nothing less than honor and integrity and virtue and All of that comes through the filling of the Holy Spirit and the perception and the application of God's Word in your life. That's called spiritual growth. That's where you begin to develop integrity. So it starts with spiritual self-esteem, which is an attitude of self-confidence, not having to depend on other people. A lot of people have this dependency on others. They have to go to others to get advice, go to others to tell them what to do. You really don't have to do that. As you learn God's Word under a well-qualified pastor, you are perfectly capable of handling every situation in your life. You're perfectly capable of knowing the solutions and what you should do and not do. I mean, I understand. When I first became a Christian, there was much I didn't know. I went to people and asked them. And I've got a lot of goofy answers. I mean, everything from play the tambourine and sing do Lord to you can't drive a certain automobile. You have to dress a certain way. You have to talk a certain way. There was so much legalism. I couldn't believe it. And I didn't know what legalism even was, but I tried to fit into the mold that they wanted me to fit into, and obviously it didn't work for me. And of course they wrote me off and said, what a loser he is, you know. So I had to find my own pastor who taught me God's Word, taught me what the real Christian life is about, and I was able to study and grow and learn just like you, and make the adjustments in my life, and now we've been in the ministry 50 years now, 50 years of serving our Savior, speaking in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of schools, hundreds of radio shows, And it's amazing how every time and every now and then I run across people who listen to this show who want to straighten me out, want to tell me that I'm wrong and don't mind sending emails and telling you, you need to listen to me, brother. I could straighten you out. I don't need straightening out. I'm just fine. So keep your emails. But you can pray for me always. If I'm wrong, if I'm wrongly arrogant, then the Lord will let me know. Because we have a law of volitional responsibility. This is what I want to go over with you today. You have a volition. When we talk about this, 10 problem-solving devices, the only way you can learn them is to exercise your volition. God gave you a chooser. It's part of the format of your soul, mentality, and volition. Volition is you saying, yes, I will do that. Are you saying, no, I won't do that? You use your volition every day. You walk into the grocery store and you say, yes, I will buy that one, and no, I won't buy that one. You choose. And under the law of volitional responsibility, it's possible. For you and I, it's possible, listen carefully, that we can cause our own misery and our own suffering. It's the most common and the first cause for the human law of volitional responsibility, suffering in general. We can create a mess in our life because we go negative to God's Word. We can create suffering in our life from our own bad decisions. As a matter of fact, I'll go out on a limb and I'll say that probably 90% of the suffering that you and I go through is because we mismanage our money, we mismanage our health, or we mismanage our relationships with other people. And then there's the 10% suffering, which is divine discipline with God taking us to the woodshed to straighten us out every now and then. I'm sure you've been there. I'm sure you've been in the woodshed with the Lord and he got your attention, didn't he? And maybe for a while you say, I'm going to do better, Lord. I'm going to do better. And then you're right back to letting your sin nature dictate policy. Your volition doesn't have the strength to say no. Well, I'm sorry, but the Christian life must be lived by your volition. No one else can live it for you. No one else can decide what you should or should not do. You have to make the decision, which means you have to have a desire. If you don't have the desire or the courage to live up to the mandates that God gives, then all of your life you're going to be a very weak believer, and all of your life you're going to vacillate between the spiritual life and the trends of the sin nature. So every one of us, we must take responsibility for our own decisions, for our own actions. We can't blame other people for our own misery. Our unhappiness, our suffering is sometimes brought on by our own bad decisions. We made it. Volitional decisions. Bad decisions limit future options. I have a bumper sticker that says that. You may want one, right? We'll send it to you. You may want to put it in your kitchen, on your car, in the back of your Bible, whatever. Bad decisions limit future options because you must take responsibility yourself for based on your own bad decisions, related sometimes to your associations with people, sometimes to your activities that you got involved with, sometimes your motives, sometimes your function in life. There are people listening to me today that are incarcerated. They made a bad decision and bad decisions limited their future options. You need to remember this because there will come a time when you'll be free and you can't afford to make those mistakes again. So it's inevitable that throughout all of our life, As Christians, we are going to sin. That's obvious. We have a sin nature, and we're not perfect. That's why God provided rebound for us so that we could recover from our sin by using 1 John 1.9. If we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us. So it's inevitable we'll sin. It's also inevitable that we're going to get into some sort of human good, which is nothing but pure evil. That's not following the protocol plan of God, not doing a right thing in a right way, but maybe doing a right thing, but not in the right way. You know, human good. A lot of Christians fall into this human good, and they want to pick up all the garbage in the world, feed all the hungry in the world. take care of all the babies in the world, and those are all fine and noble things, but that doesn't solve the problems of the world. The only thing that will solve the problems of the world is salvation through faith alone and Christ alone. Only when man gets a new heart can the sin nature be contained. And so we can pick up all the trash, we can feed all the hungry, but nobody's gonna contain the sin nature until the Holy Spirit moves in. And that only happens at the rebirth, when we reboot, when we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. And then, even then, we must exercise our volition to stay in fellowship with God. Because volition is why we sin. Volition is the case for sin. You decided to do it. You chose to do it. Even in insanity or neurosis or psychosis, sociopathic behavior, it's volition. The psychiatrist, psychologist will tell you that. We are a product of our volition. And what causes our volition to go negative? is nothing but pure arrogance. I know people today that are negative about certain things. They're arrogant because they think they're smarter. Some think they're smarter than the president. Some think they're smarter than the Congress. Some think they're smarter than their pastor. Some think they're smarter than their spouse, and they use their arrogance to be negative to anything that particular person says. So Galatians 6-7 states this law about volitional responsibility. Here's what Paul wrote. Be not deceived. God will not be mocked. Whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. When we sow to the wind, the Bible says, we reap the whirlwind. And so under the law of volitional responsibility, We inflict on ourself unbearable suffering, unbearable suffering from the following categories, personal sin, we sin, we don't rebound, we get under warning discipline, we get under intense discipline, we may even move into dying discipline. You say, what are those three things? Well, when you sin and fail to rebound, whether it's a mental attitude sin, whether it's a sin of the tongue, or whether it's an overt sin, whatever sin you commit, when you fail to rebound, God will warn you. The Holy Spirit will convict you. You will know you have broken God's law. You're out of fellowship. This doesn't mean that you're out of fellowship because you ate one too many pieces of chicken or because you drank one too many sodas. That's not what I'm talking about. When you sin, mental sin, worry, fear, antagonism, hatred, bitterness, When you sin of the tongue, gossip, malign, criticizing, backbiting. When you sin overtly, stealing, murder, murder, I mean stealing and murder and other overt sins that may go along with something like that. Adultery, fornication, things like that. These are overt sins. So the Holy Spirit will nail you. He will tell you, you just blew it, buster. You just committed a sin. And when you don't rebound, when you don't admit the sin to God, when you forget it and go on down the my way highway or you cover it up, you are guaranteeing one thing. The hammer is going to fall in your life. And that may be why you're suffering today. Maybe you've been so arrogant. You've never admitted that. But the hammer may be on you right now and God may be driving you six feet under eventually. Because warning discipline leads to intense discipline. Hebrews 12, 6 says, those that I love, I scourge. Sometimes he really puts the hammer to us. Why? Because he's mad at us? No. Because he's trying to keep us from self-destructing. You may be on the road to self-destruction right now. And the warning discipline of God and the intense discipline of God may be trying to deliver you from sin nature domination. And unless you rebound, unless you recover, unless you make a course correction, unless you begin to take in the Word of God on a consistent basis, you will not last much longer. You're gonna ruin your life and probably ruin the lives of those associated with you because of your own arrogance and what a shame it is. So that is the law of volitional responsibility for you and for me. We, me and you, we both have the ability to destroy our lives and destroy the lives of those associated with us. We can't let that happen. We have to have positive volition. Listening to the word of God. Following the leadership of God the Holy Spirit. Not listening to the sin nature and the lies that Satan may perpetuate. Like, this will make you happy. That will make you happy. You know, the happiness is related to people or circumstances. That's just not true. So, under the law of volitional responsibility, we inflict on ourself unbearable suffering by personal sin. Sometimes we get into moral or immoral degeneracy. And by living in the cosmic system, the devil's world, we wind up quenching the Holy Spirit, grieving the Holy Spirit. Thus, we wind up with any lack of common sense and make a lot of bad judgment. because we get very subjective. You see, if you overestimate your own ability, or you fail to see yourself in light of reality, you're just gonna destroy any opportunity you have for happiness in your life. If you overestimate your abilities, fail to see yourself in light of reality, you're gonna destroy any capacity for happiness you could ever have in your life. Because both believers and unbelievers do function under this law. What law? The law of volitional responsibility. Believers and unbelievers, not only from sin, but also people can violate the laws of divine establishment. These are the operational laws for the entire human race within the framework of a national entity. The laws of divine establishment, freedom, marriage, family, nationalism, and there's intense suffering from violating these laws and from violating the sacredness of life and property and privacy by means of criminal acts there's also suffering from the rejection of responsibilities it's all volitionally related it's all part of your volition if you stole you chose to steal if you injured you chose to injure if you lied you chose to lie If you got drunk, you chose to get drunk. If you committed adultery, you chose to commit adultery. See, many of our wrong decisions come from our own arrogance. We don't see ourself as we really are. We see ourself as we think we are. Or we don't want to look at all at ourselves. We just want to feed our desires. And we've all been there. I've been there. You have too. And so many wrong decisions come from arrogance. And God can protect us from this. He has. He gave us parents. He gave us pastor teachers. He gave us coaches, bosses. I mean, what happens is God puts us under legitimate forms of authority. That's not to intimidate us. That's to protect us from who? From ourself. That's why you have parents. That's why you have police officers. That's why you have pastors, to protect you from yourself. You know why? Because we're just naturally fools. We're fools since the fall of Adam. Adam was a fool to ever do what he did, but he chose. He made a volitional decision. He took a look at Eve, took a look at the forbidden fruit. He recognized that she was in deep trouble, and maybe if he just went ahead and took a bite, they wouldn't both get fined. Whatever his motivation was, he fell for the lie. The lie is that God is trying to keep something from you and he doesn't want you to know these things, Satan told Eve. And if you eat this, you'll be just as wise as God is. And she took a chump and she found out she was not as wise as God. Many wrong decisions come from our own arrogance because we're just fools. This is proved by the tremendous amount of suffering we experience, not only in our own personal lives, but in our nation. all throughout human history. You know, history proves one thing, it repeats itself. And if there's ever been a nation that's foolish, it's America. Because we make a lot of foolish laws, legislate a lot of foolish things that are completely opposite of the establishment principles taught in the Word of God. And if we can continue to exist as a free nation for the next 20 years, it'll be a miracle. And you need to prepare your children and your grandchildren for what's coming because if you look at the news, And you pay attention, you can see what's around the corner. And we are in a critical time in history. So we've all been born with this handicap. You know, a genetic handicap sometimes. Maybe your parents were alcoholics, so if you take a drink, you're gonna be alcoholic. But you can also inquire environmental flaws. You know, you can get into a pattern of doing things And the end result is you get hooked on them yourself, like drug abuse. And you may start into drug abuse and get hooked on it, and you're having a flaw that you've acquired. You inquired a flaw. Genetically, it's out there, but some people just acquire it by their own decision. It all ends up being suffering. It all ends up being a miserable life because we manufacture our own problems. And we manufacture our own suffering. Here's what God manufactures. Listen carefully. God manufactures solutions and blessings in the middle of your suffering because only God has provided a system to turn that cursing into blessing. Did you know that? When you rebound, when you confess your sin to God, he can turn the cursing into blessing. Now, there are a lot of ways to make yourself miserable under the law of volitional responsibility. And I'm going to have to come back next week and maybe talk about some more of this. But let's talk about turning cursing into blessing. If you're under discipline now, if you're suffering now because of your continual bad decisions, if you will go to your father and admit your sin, he will be faithful and just to forgive you. What happens is you've acquired scar tissue in your life. You wound up searing your soul. You wound up quenching and grieving the Holy Spirit. So the first thing is to get him back in control by confessing your sin. And the second thing is to purge yourself with the Word of God. to cleanse out that evil, wicked, wrong thinking by the pure water of the Word. 1 Peter talks about this in 121. So that's your option. You can continue the life you're in, continue to be miserable until you wind up self-destructing, or you can confess your sin to God, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, reboot your life, and change your course by thinking divine viewpoint, learning God's Word, and applying it into your life. It's a short solution, short message, short answers. There's much more to it, I assure you. But at least maybe I got you thinking. I hope so. If you want to know more, contact me. And until next week, I am your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you so much for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
In this episode, Kim Monson reflects on President William McKinley's contributions to American history and connects those lessons to current political climates. We explore how past policies influence today's ideals, particularly in the realm of economic strategy and expansionism. Discover how this historical perspective is revitalized in contemporary discourse around state budgets and taxpayer rights as we highlight critical legislative decisions affecting Colorado citizens. Join us in understanding how a proactive approach can equip you to engage effectively in legislative processes, protecting personal freedoms and ensuring accountability among elected officials.
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It's the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water. What it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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Under this guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it's actually tapping down the truth.
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Today's current opinions and ideas.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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indeed let's have a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history thank you to the team that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy wednesday producer joe happy wednesday kim And if it's Wednesday, that means it's Wings Day over at Hooters Restaurant. You buy 20 wings. You get an additional 10 for free. And that is for to-go or to dine in. And I particularly like the... lemon pepper rub and the texas barbecue rub and so anyway today's a great day to partake of that they have five locations loveland aurora lone tree westminster and colorado springs i did see it come across the wire yesterday and we had reported about this that hooters restaurants uh corporate has declared bankruptcy and so there's uh they have corporate stores they have franchise stores I work with a couple of very successful franchisees. They do have other restaurants as well. They truly are conservatives who love the American idea. And I actually had been back and forth in text with Brian, and he said, we're going to be able to make lemonade out of these lemons. And I love that. So really appreciate their partnership over all these years for both the Kim Bunsen Show and America's Veterans Stories. And so check them out either to go or to dine in. Be sure and check all that out. Our word of the day is misnomer. Thank you to Mark for suggesting it. It's spelled M-I-S-N-O-M-E-R. It could be an error in naming a person or place. It could be an application of a wrong name or number three, a name wrongly or unsuitably applied to a person or subject. And I hadn't even thought about this, but this might be actually a great segue into our quote of the day regarding when Mount McKinley died. was renamed by Obama to Mount Denali. And one could say that that was a misnomer. And I don't know that much about William McKinley, president, the 25th president of the United States. But he was born in 1843. He died in 1901. And he was the 25th president of the United States. And he served from 1897 until his assassination in 1901. He was a member of the Republican Party. and he led a realignment that made Republicans largely dominant in the industrial states and nationwide for decades. He successfully led the U.S. in the Spanish-American War, overseeing a period of American expansionism with the annexations of Puerto Rico, Guam, the Philippines, and Hawaii. McKinley also rejected inflationary plans such as free silver in favor of keeping the nation on the gold standard, and he raised protective tariffs. He was the last president to have served in the American Civil War, and he was the only one to begin his service as an enlisted man and ended up as a brevet major. And so he was a tariff guy, and he made no bones about it. And, of course, tariffs are in the news right now. But he said, I am a tariff man standing on a tariff platform. And so that is William McKinley. Our bill of the day, we're going to be talking with Corey Onusorg in the next segment. He is one of my fellow board members on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers Board. And we'll be talking about some of our new bills that we have on our Cut Engaged program. And so just stay tuned for that for the next segment regarding the bills of the day. I did want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. And it is because of them, your resources, that we are on the air. We're an independent voice on this independent station. And so I really do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. Probably the biggest news of the day is, and we talked a little bit with Kevin Lumberg yesterday about it, was that the long bill, the Colorado state budget, has been introduced down at the statehouse. And $43.9 billion. And this is from Colorado Politics. And it says that this was introduced last Monday in the state senate. Setting up the 2025-2026 budget, which contains hundreds of millions of dollars in funding cuts, transfers, and sweeps. Now, let's just take a quick look at that sentence. They say that it's cuts, but it's because they've asked for so much money. So they're having to cut a lot of what they're asking for. It says the plan includes $16.7 billion in general fund dollars, and that is the discretionary money that comes from corporate and individual income taxes, as well as sales and use taxes. And the lawmakers use that to fund new programs, although it'll be in shorter supply this year because they have to find a way to cover expenses. a $1.2 billion shortfall. As Kevin mentioned, they have these orbital bills, and we thought there were 49. In this article, it says that there's 63, and they make statutory changes to balance the budget, and that's where a number of those cuts can be found. It says among the largest is Senate Bill 264, which transfers $225.2 million from 52 separate cash funds to the general fund in the 2024, 2025, and 2025-26 budgets. And it says the current year transfers would roll over into the 2025-26 budget. It says the largest sweep is $71.4 billion, which – excuse me – which for the Multimodal Options Fund, a cash fund within the Department of Transportation. And so they're going to be using that. That multimodal, let's just unpack that just a little bit. Multimodal does not mean roads or bridges. Multimodal means all of these things that they are trying to fund to get you out of your car. And as we've seen with the whole Tesla thing is this push on EVs obviously really wasn't about EVs. It was about control. And so it would be nice to see money pulled back from that multimodal focus. However, one of the first things that they're going to do is, I think, reduce money to go to roads and bridges because they want to make it painful. So that if you're hitting potholes, in fact, I saw a friend yesterday had to go out and deliver something, was getting on C470. And he said a friend hit a pothole and lost a tire. So if they can make it so painful. to drive on our roads and then ultimately what they hope is that then we will approve more money for them to spend on down at the state house but they're spending it on all kinds of other things so that's really the first big headline out there the next headline and this is very important as well is that Democrat lawmakers are preparing to sue over the constitutionality of Colorado's TABOR laws. That's the Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. So just connect this dot. Democrat lawmakers want to sue to keep more of your money. And it's Sean Camacho who's sponsoring this resolution to require the General Assembly to sue, which would be to use money over the constitutionality of Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. This is an article from Mary Ann Goodman from Colorado Politics. And I remember this. In 2011, a coalition of 33 individuals and groups, including current and former lawmakers, county commission, and other elected representatives in school districts sued the state of Colorado, challenging this constitution of the Colorado's Taxpayers' Bill of Rights. A decade later, the lawsuit was dismissed on a technicality. The lawsuit the federal courts indicated had the wrong plaintiffs. So a state Democrat lawmaker who is part of the legal team in Kerr versus Hickenlooper, later Kerr versus Polis, is now sponsoring a resolution to try again, but with some important differences. It says this Representative Sean Camacho sponsored House Joint Resolution 1023, which would require this suit. The two differences between Kerr and this lawsuit are the plaintiffs and where it will be filed. It says Camacho told Colorado Politics that Kerr was litigated for years, going from federal district court to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals, on to the U.S. Supreme Court, back to the district court and appeals court. And it said they had the wrong plaintiffs. And so it says Camacho said we never got to the merits of the actual legal argument. So instead of being in federal court, they're going across the street, going to state court. So stay tuned. The people of Colorado. Put this amendment in place. We approved it because we wanted to make sure that we could keep government in control, keep more of our money. And now you have representatives, supposed representatives that are going to sue to keep more and more of our money. And so that is certainly a big problem. So let's see. A couple of other things I wanted to mention is a friend of mine has teenage kids. And she said that yesterday they would be bringing the baby home from school. I think her daughter's 14 years old. And I don't know if this is health class or what it is exactly. I do remember hearing about this where... uh ostensibly this is to teach kids about how to take care of a baby and apparently this baby is computer generated it'll wake up you have to change the baby you're shaking your head yes producer joe so you've seen this before or tell me about that i had to do it in middle school
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Legitimately, you bring home a computerized baby, it'll wake up in the middle of the night. It's supposed to really closely simulate a baby, and it kind of teaches you the struggles of it.
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See, that's the point right there, is I think that this is a way to, first of all, having children is very challenging sometimes. It just is. But this bringing home a computerized baby that's not really your baby, that you've not carried the baby in pregnancy, delivered the baby, that connection with your offspring. I think that this is setting it up for kids. And you said this was in middle school, setting this up for kids that if they get into a situation where they have an unplanned pregnancy, they're going to remember, oh, my gosh, this is really so hard. In swoops, the abortion industry and wham, bam, thank you, ma'am. I think this is all connected. And I hadn't really thought about that until my friend just mentioned this show.
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That's fair. I never thought about it that way, too. I just I took it as a project. But that that makes it you make a good point on there is no connection. There's no emotional building through the pregnancy to get to this child that is yours. The love that is built with that.
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Yeah, so that was my first aha. One other thing, I was going down to meet a friend of mine in North Cherry Creek. We went over to a meeting first in downtown, right across from the Brown Palace. My friend's Denver is in disarray. It is a mess down there. And you can put this at the feet of former mayor Michael Hancock, this mayor Michael Johnston, and these Democrat governors as well. And downtown is in decline. They're shutting down access to businesses down there for their multimodal projects. It is really a mess down there. But I was at the corner of I-25 and Colorado, Joe. And I saw something that I haven't seen in years. And that is somebody opening up their car door and putting their trash on the ground. I haven't seen it in years. I was shocked. It must be happening because there's trash everywhere, but I haven't seen it in years. Have you seen it? I've never seen that before. And it was a Tesla, somebody in a Tesla. And so I kind of wanted to look at them. So I drove up and It actually looked like a couple of people that I really wouldn't want to mess with. But I could not believe it. I was just shocked to see that happen. And then to have somebody driving around in a Tesla, because isn't that the virtue signaling, or it used to be, that you took care of the environment, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and they're also really expensive cars. So I'm confused on how that goes. Like a lot of them are about $50,000, $60,000. That's a lot.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're over there. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. That comes out on Sundays. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Pleased to have on the line with me my fellow board member, at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is an all-volunteer group, which is watching legislation down at the Statehouse. He did run for Statehouse as well, and that is Corey Onazorg. Corey, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good morning. How are you, Kim?
SPEAKER 13 :
I am well, and we are absolutely thrilled that you recently joined the Colorado Union of Taxpayers board. You are adding so much to what we are doing and watching all of this legislation, and I want to say thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thank you, President.
SPEAKER 13 :
And let me just give a shout out to our other board members, Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And it's quite a job. Aren't you learning a lot, Corey Onizorg?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, it's changing my perspective on, you know, What my job would have been had I won House District 23. And it also changes my perspective on the majority party having gone pretty far over to the left with their legislation. It's pretty wild to see what they're doing. And 644 total bills, I believe, as of today.
SPEAKER 13 :
It really is unbelievable. And Colorado Union of Taxpayers has been around since 1976. People ask me if we are making a difference. And first and foremost, I think we're making a difference in, first of all, understanding what's going on down there and offering a tool to to inform everyday people about that because I feel they're flooding the zone down there. It's difficult for us to keep track of it, but the first step is to know what's going on, Corey.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's exactly right. That's why we came up with Cut and Gauge that you can find on coloradotaxpayer.org. It's in the top tab there. And we also started a Colorado Unit Taxpayers X Account, and you can follow that at COCUT1776.
SPEAKER 13 :
And you're handling that, which I'm absolutely thrilled about. But Cut Engaged, we just have dedicated time, money, and resources. We're choosing four to five bills each week. We just kicked it off. But it's a super easy way for people to weigh in on pieces of legislation. And I think one of the ones – I mentioned it yesterday – that we chose for this week was the House Bill 25-1244, the Welcome Reception and Integration Grant Program. This is money going towards NGOs, to bring illegal immigrants to Colorado. And you can easily weigh in on that. Just go to coloradotaxpayer.org, hit Cut Engaged. That brings up the opposed bills or the bills. You can click on that. And with just like one, two, three, you can let the sponsors know you're on this case disapproval of this bill and you can also put some comments in and you can send something to your own senator and representative so it's it's really slick i love the way that it works cory yeah it's great it's easy to put your your first last uh name in there email and then uh
SPEAKER 10 :
You can personalize the message and get it to your specific house rep or state senator. And, you know, it gets the message out. We really like to get this across all of our counties and all the house districts, all the Senate districts, and get everyone engaged as much as possible. So when legislators do against the will of the people, they hear about it. So it's a great tool.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and on Monday, and I mentioned this in the first hour, is Representative Sean Camacho has introduced a bill to basically challenge the constitutionality of TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. So we're going to have to roll up our sleeves on that one, Corey.
SPEAKER 10 :
There's a lot of work yet to do, and they got a lot squeezed in for the season here, so. And, you know, we're watching them with our eagle eyes. And it's just a great group of people that all volunteers and, you know, work so hard to keep people informed.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and that is the first thing that needs to be done. Now, the other bills that we have on Cut Engaged, if you have that in front of us, why don't you just give us a rundown on those? If not, I've got it here in front of me, Corey.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, the four we chose this week in addition to 1244. And one note on that that I think is interesting, fun fact, 1945, the first NGO was created by Article 17 at the United Nations meeting, I believe it was in San Francisco. And not ironically, United Nations also wrote the paper Replacement Migration, which is basically the Cloward and Pivot model that we're going through, bringing all these illegal aliens here. So I just wanted to point out that fun fact, but... The other bills are House Bill 25-1269, building decarbonization measures. This is going back to, you know, quote-unquote settled science of how we have to decarbonize. And it's amazing. They're trying to put fines up to $47,000 per day. We really think it's going to be a job killer. And... You know, this ideological legislation is, you know, they keep doing it and we keep screaming about it. We're going to continue to call it out. And then also Senate Bill 2537 coal transition grants. Basically, you know, the taxpayer, we said the taxpayers cannot afford to compensate for the loss of businesses that the state destroyed. uh property remedies tend to do the legislation and the coal business you know and on on top of that you know what where the solar and wind industries are you know supposedly supposed to employees people so um and the other one the last one this this week we have out house bill 25 12 11. uh this is a real bad one uh a lot of our members uh worked in city council really opposed this um so yeah house bill 25 uh 12 11. The state's not a water utility, and it's not a proper role of state government to diddle their way into water utilities.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and this really seems like a special interest bill as well. And that's another thing that I'm learning, Corey, is I used to think – I was very naive. I thought that down at the Capitol that we had legislators that were looking at legislation that would be good for the people and make sure that we're protecting their rights and protecting – They're right for their property. Oh, no, no, no. There's a lot of special interests down there that what they do is they find a legislator to write a bill to carry a bill. And then the legislator ends up with legislative council. I think it is. They write the bill up. but it's all done with special interest so in this case two of our board members are all over this they said that this is a special deal for probably developers out in Lakewood particularly regarding the federal center and interestingly enough one of the legislators who had been on the Lakewood City Council she's now in the state house is one of those that's carrying this bill so it's like it is kind of fun to connect the dots. It's not that hard right now to connect the dots, but well, sometimes it is, but this is a pretty blatant connect the dots, Corey.
SPEAKER 10 :
I couldn't agree more, Kim. And, uh, you know, I was seeing a bill, I believe that was heard yesterday that I don't believe we rated, uh, but it was all over the news. House bill 1312 legal protections for transgender individuals, uh, called the Kelly loving act. That's a wild one where, um, POTENTIAL OF IMPOSING FINES FOR GOING AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND ALSO THE ISSUE OF BASICALLY IF A PARENT DOESN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR CHILD'S WHATEVER THAT'S GOING ON, THEY COULD LOSE THEIR CHILD TO CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES. SO IT'S REALLY JUST THE WILD STUFF THEY HAVE GOING ON DOWN THERE. We're keeping up as best we can, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it really is wild. And I didn't choose that bill because we do have, with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, things we're trying to stay within a wheelhouse of taxpayers and parental choice. I guess I could have pulled that. Maybe I'll add that on because that does fall under parental choice. Maybe I'll add that on this week. And then property rights and then protecting Tabor. And those are all really important things. Corey, just a quick description of what you are doing over on X. I am absolutely thrilled. Again, just bringing up this fun fact. I didn't know that about NGOs. I love what you're doing on X. And we would really love to have people follow us. That handle is COCUT1776, correct? Correct. Yeah. Did I lose him? Oh, okay. I lost him. Okay. So that's C-O-C-U-T. Yeah, we're back. We're back. Oh, we're back. Okay. C-O-C-U-T 1776. I love what you're doing over there on X and would really recommend people start to follow us there, Corey.
SPEAKER 10 :
We really appreciate your leadership, Kim, and you're fighting every day against tyranny. So you're a great leader.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, thank you. That is what we're doing for sure. And Corey Onizorg, thank you so much. Keep up the great work. Be sure and join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. And we will talk to you soon, Corey.
SPEAKER 10 :
God bless you and God bless Colorado, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. Did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are having their second annual golf tournament, and that will be on May 15th out at the Ridge. golf course in Castle Rock. It's a great event. You'll get to play a great course, get to meet some new people, support the USMC Memorial Foundation, and I guess there's a limited number of spots, so you want to make sure that you get that taken care of. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have on the line with me Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy and And as we talk about on a regular basis, it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources from oil, natural gas, coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So it allows us to thrive and prosper. And the industry has been under attack culturally. We've seen it in media and certainly from a political standpoint, a regulatory standpoint. So pleased to have Chris Wright with Liberty Energy as the new secretary of the Department of Energy. But the globalists are not going away. They are doubling down. That's why we need to talk to Bob Boswell. Bob, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's good to have you. And first thing, you texted something over regarding potential fines, I think, on the oil and gas industry regarding our oceans. And I was trying to find that. And I found that there's going to be the fifth UN Ocean Forum. And that looks like danger, danger to me. And that's going to be coming up here very soon. So unpack this for us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's not oil and gas as much as it is shipping. And the UN's proposing some fees against shipping companies in the name of climate change. And what, you know, they're saying that the shipping is affecting the oceans and therefore there needs to be a fee extracted to compensate for that. And it's very controversial. I doubt that it will pass. At least I certainly... Hope not, but it would increase the cost of all things shipped because it would cost increase. These fees would increase the cost of shipping. So it's a very punitive type of action, you know, and it affects all products that go across the waters. So it's just another example of a of a. semi-governmental organization, the United Nations, trying to promote various policies which can affect countries throughout the world and increase the cost of products for everyone, which is inflationary and would hurt particularly poorer countries that don't have the ability to pay these extra fees on the products.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, Bob, so I'm looking at this. It's this website. It's unctad.org. And, yeah, I hadn't quite connected that dot as I was looking at this last night. So it's shipping, but obviously these ships have to be powered by naturally occurring fossil fuels, yes? Right? Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nuclear submarines and things of that nature, but it's not in the commercial shipping yet to my knowledge.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And in this article, it says climate change is one of the first things. Overfishing and pollution threaten marine ecosystems and the 600 million people worldwide who rely on fisheries for their livelihoods. The ocean is pretty big. We've had Patrick Moran, who was one of the co-founders of Greenpeace. And he is very, he certainly calls himself the sensible environmentalist. And we all want to take good care of our world, but the ocean is really, really big. And he's really made the case for naturally occurring fossil fuels for people to thrive and prosper. And I guess this is a good time that I should mention, people should go to our documentary at climateconversation.com and see just this great conversation about all of these issues out there. Because what I figured out, Bob, in all these podcasts that we've done, is the green in the Green New Deal is the green that is going into special interest pockets. So these fees that would be extracted for shipping are going to go into, I think, interested people's pockets as I really look at this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think that's obviously the case in the United States with the different programs that have been put in. The biggest allusion to the public is the Inflation Reduction Act, which spends trillions of dollars and does nothing more than create a tremendous amount of inflation, and then it funds some of these green initiatives. several of which have failed, and many of which are just for intermittent power that needs to be supplemented by fossil fuels. So if you want reliable, affordable, clean energy, you need to really focus on natural gas and nuclear. Nuclear is going to be a transitory. It's being used more highly in other countries, but the U.S. with our stringent policies and regulations. have inhibited the development of nuclear at the scale it should be. Fortunately, there's some modular nuclear plants underway, under study, under development, that I think in the next probably 10 years will become more of a factor in terms of the generation of electricity.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. But this reliable and affordable and abundant energy sources have really been under attack. And ultimately, that comes down to everyday people here in America and across the world, that if they don't have this reliable, efficient, affordable energy sources, it's very difficult for them to go after their hopes and dreams and to thrive and prosper. And we've taken all of this for granted here in the United States, but we also want people across the world to thrive and prosper. And these proposals, for example, from this United Nations Ocean Conference, in the guise of saying they want to protect fishing and fisheries and those kinds of things, will actually... keep people, I think, into poverty, not only across the world, but it will also, I think, make it more difficult. We see a disappearing middle class if we don't have these good, affordable energy sources.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, I think, you know, one of the issues is that we've got eight billion people on the planet. We've grown from four billion to eight billion. And how do we feed these people and how do we how do these provide for an economic well-being for these people? And part of that is, you know, it's being allowed the freedom for them to develop, allow freedom. the ability for us as people to invest and help some of these countries grow their own economies, things like that. And what we don't need is more regulations that inhibit the ability for us to do that and to use our natural God-given elements and knowledge to help develop a better world. You can't mandate it. You can't have a central governing agency that covers it, but that's what elements such as the World Economic Forum are advocating, and it's just the wrong way to go. We've seen that through history. Independence, freedom, and capitalism are the ways to bring a country and develop its resources and the betterment of its people.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, Bob, I feel like we're at the tip of the spear here in Colorado. As watching all of this legislation and, of course, from the regulatory situation, I was with a friend last night, and she was talking about these new rules. I think it's in Colorado. across the board where new buildings, commercial buildings over a certain square footage. Of course, I think that they'll change that, so it'll be lesser square footage. And then also, if you're going to refurbish a building, have to meet these, and I have this in air quotes, energy kind of mandates on these buildings, and the cost is is really almost prohibitive, and I think that that's really going to affect our economy in a negative way here in Colorado. And so I think we're at the tip of the spear on all of this stuff that's happening. That's why we have to keep having these conversations about this, Bob.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think you can look at California as an example on that and how they – mandated that you know that you couldn't use natural gas to heat and provide power to cool buildings and it's really backfiring on them so it is uh you know these policies that are uh implemented in the name of climate change aren't often the best for, you know, the environment or the economy. But they have these politicians that like to grab onto the theme and ride that for their own, mostly individual purposes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, so, Bob, with your ear to the ground, and you know Chris Wright with Liberty Energy, and now that he's in Trump's cabinet, It seems that the Trump to administration is really working to get to sensible energy policies for the people of America. But as this what you had mentioned regarding the United Nations Ocean Conference Forum is the globalists are not going to are not going to back down. They're going to continue to push this kind of stuff. So how is this matching up as you're watching Trump to Chris Wright and then the globalists?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think this is America first now. And what you've got in Chris Wright is an incredibly charismatic, intelligent leader who understands energy perhaps better than anybody in this country. And his leadership throughout his career has demonstrated that. He will be a strong advocate for the right policies. And, you know, we'll do use common sense. And I think you're going to see that we couldn't have had a better choice than Chris Wright. And we're just fortunate that he's in that leadership position. But, you know, the globalists will do what the globalists will do. But the United States is the strongest economic power on the planet. We have the best economy. We have the best resources from multiple viewpoints. And I think we can steer our own ship and hopefully by our model and for others that we can help influence other countries so the global elitists have less influence and less power.
SPEAKER 13 :
We're at an exciting time, Bob Boswell.
SPEAKER 07 :
We are.
SPEAKER 13 :
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. Email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, shouldn't have to force people to do it. And I know where I'm going to be on April 16th. That's going to be down at the Center for American Values in Pueblo for one of their On Values presentations featuring Norma Donlon, who is the widow of Roger Donlon, who was Roger was the first Medal of Honor recipient that was awarded in the Vietnam War. and he just recently passed on. So this is going to be a really fascinating presentation. It doesn't cost anything, but RSVP by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's on April 16th down at the Center for American Values. On the line with me is Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy, located or headquartered right here in Denver. Great sponsor of the show as well. Bob, tell us just a little bit about... Laramie Energy, the business, you're primarily focused on natural gas, correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct. Yeah, Laramie Energy is an oil and gas exploration company that produces natural gas primarily in the Peons Basin, which is roughly between Aspen and Grand Junction. and it goes north and south. It's an intermountain basin of stacked sands and shale that go roughly from about 6,000 feet down to about 15,000 feet. We operate about 1,500 wells. We're the Third largest operator in the basin. There's actually only about three of us, so the other two are much larger than us. But we've been at this longer than the others. They've come into a series of acquisitions. Most recently, both Terrace and Terra have sold. Terra is scheduled to close, I think, in April. Coast in the next couple weeks. So if longevity counts, we've been here the longest, but it produced clean natural gas. We comply with all the Colorado regulations. They have increased the cost of operations and hurt the development economics in the basin and in Colorado, but we're compliant and I think in the longer term that common sense and the realities of energy and cost of energy will prevail.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we're working on that. We certainly are. So explain then the process. So exploration, development of oil and natural gas. And then how does natural gas become liquefied natural gas or LNG? How does that work?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, natural gas is cooled down to a negative, I think it's around 160 to 200 degrees, and it's liquid at that. It's encased in these large tanks on ships, and then it's transported across the ocean. A lot of ours goes to Europe, which was reliant on Russia for natural gas and And Russia tried to use it as a lever against Europe. And so the demand for liquefied natural gas has increased quite a bit. We've been one of the main suppliers of it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And so this was interesting. I saw this from World Oil, and I guess it's a Bloomberg report. But this is frustrating when I feel like somebody's not shooting straight with me. And this is titled, a shelved Biden study found pollution impact of LNG exports minor. And again, this is from Bloomberg. And it said, when the Biden administration stopped approving licenses to export U.S. liquefied natural gas in January of last year. Officials said they first needed to determine how those shipments would affect the environment and economy, but they already had the answers. Just four months earlier, the Department of Energy completed a study. This, again, is under the O'Biden-Harris administration. Of the issue, they concluded that ramped-up LNG exports would only modestly increase domestic residential gas prices and wouldn't appreciably change global greenhouse gas emissions, and it would help the people in Europe, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So I just indicative of a number of difficult to understand decisions made during the Biden administration. For example, what we have on immigration by their actions and policies actually incentivize people to come. And we saw what happened. I'm not sure how many people came in. I've heard anywhere from 6 million to 17 million, but a significant number. And, you know, that's worked against us. We've got increased drug problems. We've got homeless. We've got increased criminal activities. You know, we've had some of the gangs that have come out of Venezuela that have operated illegally and have done, you know, broken many laws, some violently. It's created a whole bunch of issues. So how do you understand some of these decisions and the detrimental effects it's had on this country? It's difficult to understand.
SPEAKER 13 :
But we're getting that changed, which I think is super important. Changed at the national level. Bob, as I'm watching legislation down here at the Statehouse with my fellow volunteers, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, they're still doubling down on a bunch of this stuff here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, I guess... This grand bargain we had with there would be no new legislation on energy didn't stop them from increasing the regulations. And they've proposed several things that are just going to increase the cost of power in the state of Colorado. The most recent one, which we are fighting as an industry, is an imposition on a methane tax. And this mainly affects midstreams, the people that compress and transport gas, but it's going to increase the cost of that fee and to the detriment of the state of Colorado without any effect on greenhouse gas emissions. It's just another example of those type of regulations, but it's not just that. Multiple regulations coming down the pike on water. We're already regulated on water, but this is additional regulations, most of which will have only a minor effect that's positive, but at a much greater cost. It's difficult to understand other than it's just the I guess the blue nature of our electorate.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, that's why elections really do matter, Bob Boswell. And so we're working over in that arena as well because people want to make sure that we have honest, transparent elections. And so we do need to work on that because what I see down at the Statehouse is it's almost like without any abandon whatsoever, so many of these different bills. And so just to report on our Bill Track 50, which is what we use for Colorado Union taxpayers, I asked them to flag some different words so that we could see different legislation quickly that might have some of these words in it. So regarding energy, there's 37 bills down there at the statehouse right now that are referring to energy. And then I also asked Karen to flag the word climate. And there are 27 bills referencing climate. So there's so many of these things that are under the radar because they're flooding the zone. It is really difficult to keep track of everything that's happening down there. And I think it's by design, Bob.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it absolutely is. You know, I'm with you. The current administration in Colorado government is doing is they're trying to get around the Tabor laws by the Tabor law by instituting fees. And last count I saw there was some 20 new fees that are actually taxes that are called fees to increase government revenue. And a lot of these are fees that are made up around these regulations that they're promulgating that are unnecessary. And you see today where the state of Colorado has a $1.2 billion deficit. You know, it's just hard to understand how we could have that large a deficit, you know, with a reasonably good economy. So it's just government spending, you know, gone wild. Too much regulations. They're doing everything that... we've seen examples of that have worked against really the economy of the state and ultimately the well-being of its people.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and so quick question. This came in on the text line. Somebody said that diesel prices are up a little bit. I've been pleasantly surprised at the gas pump. What do you think is going to happen with gas and diesel prices here over the near future?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think there's two elements to that equation. One is the cost of crude oil, and we've seen the cost of crude oil has come down. The other is the margins in refineries and the cost of operating these refineries where inflation has affected them. So I suspect that the price of gasoline and gas And diesel will come down modestly just simply due to the decrease in the price of crude oil. But it'll be offset somewhat modestly as well by the increased refining costs. So net-net, I think it's going to be down modestly both for diesel and gasoline.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK. Hey, Bob Boswell, thank you so much. I learn so much. I know our listeners do as well. I appreciate your partnership. So you have a great day and we'll talk with you next week or next month.
SPEAKER 07 :
OK. Yeah. Thanks, Kim.
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OK. And the quote for the end of the show is from William McKinley. He said, the free man cannot be long an ignorant man. That's why we need to know what's going on. And of course, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, that's a great place to start. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals that like Superman stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. Great information with Bob Boswell from hour number one. And you can actually, the show comes to you live 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour 10 to 11 at night. And this is on all KLZ 560 platforms, KLZ 560 a.m. the KLZ 100.7 FM, the website, the app, Alexa, the podcast, go on to Spotify and iTunes. So you can check all that out. We search for truth and clarity on the show by dissecting these issues, looking at them through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I Let's get over here. Our word of the day, and thank you to Mark, and also thank you for challenging me on something I said in our number one. I do appreciate that. You're right. And his word is misnomer, and it's M-I-S-N-O-M-E-R. And number one, it could be an error in naming a person or place. Number two, an application of a wrong name. Or number three, a name wrongly or unsuitably applied to a person or object. And I would say that calling wind and solar clean, renewable energy is a misnomer. Because first of all, it has to be, it's unreliable, and therefore it has to be backed up by naturally occurring fossil fuels. so that's the first thing but they never talk about the strip mining in third world countries for the rare earth minerals that have to be used in electric vehicles they don't talk at all about what happens to solar panels or wind turbines when we're done with them and so it really is a misnomer when you hear the word renewable energy or clean energy and we need to challenge that So you should be able to use misnomer in a sentence today. That is your challenge. I quoted the day I went to William McKinley. And you may remember that within the last few months since Donald Trump took office in his second term that he – reversed Obama's renaming of Mount McKinley in Alaska from Mount Denali back to Mount McKinley. And I don't know that much about William McKinley. He was born in 1843. He died in 1901. He was the 25th president of the United States, and he served from 1897 until his assassination in 1901. He was a member of the Republican Party. He was in favor of the gold standard, protective tariffs, and he was the last president to have served in the American Civil War. And so tariffs is in the discussion out there. And I thought this was an interesting quote. He said, I am a tariff man standing on a tariff platform. And I did have a discussion yesterday with somebody regarding tariffs, because many of the headlines particularly said, From the left, there's concerns, though, across the board regarding what will these tariffs do to our economy. Would recommend that you check out the interview I had with Lauren Fix yesterday. Card Coach reports regarding these tariffs. It's not what the headlines are saying. And you can find that on Spotify and iTunes. But ultimately, it sounds like Trump. would love to reduce spending, find all this waste, fraud, and abuse, have some tariffs to ultimately – and remember, these other countries have been charging tariffs on our goods going into their countries. So some of this is just protective tariffs that he's doing – that he could get rid of the income tax. Would that not be something for everyday people to get rid of the income tax? And what that might do to the economy and to everyday people thriving and prospering would be pretty amazing. So speaking of taxes, though, Representative Sean Camacho. down at the Colorado State House is introducing a bill to sue to the constitutionality of the Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, which was approved by the people of Colorado in 1992, because there's this insatiable appetite for more and more of our money. And Tabor, basically all Tabor says is three things. One, hey, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, if you want to raise our taxes, you just have to ask us. And actually, the taxes, let me, yeah, if you want to raise our taxes, you have to ask us. If you want to incur debt that we have to pay off, you have to ask us. And if you want to keep excess, let's see, your over-collection of money from us, and that is above a very, So generous formula of inflation plus population. If you want to keep a revenue above that, you just have to ask us. So this representative, Sean Camacho, wants to sue to say that they don't have to ask us. That's going to be a serious problem. So we need to understand what's going on on that. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, be sure to reach out to Lorne Levy. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. So Lorne Levy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, good morning, Kim. How are you?
SPEAKER 13 :
Good. So what do you think about Senator Sean Camacho and the Democrats suing to keep more of our money?
SPEAKER 17 :
I read that yesterday in the morning in the headlines, and it immediately was like, Kim has content for the next like three years here.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's for sure. Unfortunately, but we will be in.
SPEAKER 17 :
I couldn't believe it. It's like going against everything you always talk about. I'm like, that's going to be a no. That's going to be a no. The question is, can they get away with it? You know?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and that's why we have to shed light on it. And that's why what we do here with your help, your sponsorship is so important. But the other thing, Lauren, is people wanting to buy houses. I see houses for sale out there. Mortgage rates are staying pretty stable at this rate, yes?
SPEAKER 17 :
They are. In the last few days, they're creeping down just a little bit, which is nice, ever so slightly. Every little bit helps. You know, we talk about it constantly, you and I, about the 10-year U.S. Treasury. It's down to about 412 today, which is a relief from being closer to 5, you know, like it's been before. So that helps a little bit, bringing rates more down into the probably middle 6s, you know. So that's always helpful for more buying power. But, yeah, there's a lot of activity. People are buying homes. I think people are used to these rates now and, you know, are having to move for one reason or another, which is, you know, helpful for the whole overall real estate market. So, yeah, things are going okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and that's one of the things that I had learned in talking with you and with Karen is that when interest rates were really low, there wasn't much inventory, and it really had stopped the velocity of housing. Of course, I think a lot of that is regulatory, stopping the supply and creating supply for housing. But it has stopped the velocity of that, and I am pleased to see it looks like things are starting to really move again.
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You never know why someone needs to move. It doesn't have to be job change or job loss. I think there's people out there that maybe just get tired of living in the same house. I don't know. I look around my neighborhood and there's been a couple sales here in the last couple months and there's a couple signs up now. I thought those were people that would just never move because some of the people that you think are stuck with low rates that don't have an incentive to move because their mortgage payment is so low. But for one reason or another, they've decided to list our homes. So we're starting to see more of that now. And I think people are just getting their arms around these rates in the sixes and realizing that, you know, it's not that big of a difference in their mind to stop them from moving. So, you know, we are definitely seeing that, which is nice. But it also is what we talk about a lot, creating some competition for new homes, depending on, as Karen would say, if they're listed at the correct price and if they're in good shape and We're seeing people having multiple offers happen and bidding a little bit again, which makes it so important to be pre-qualified and ready to go and know what you can afford and what you can get to.
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How can people do that, Lorne Levy?
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SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I love that. And you take such great care of your clients. That number is 303-880-8881 for everything mortgages in all of the states except New York. Lorne Levy, thanks so much. We'll talk with you next week.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, you got it. Thanks, Kim.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It is Wednesday, so that means that it is a Trent Luce Wednesday. Trent Luce is a sixth-generation farmer and rancher who's been shedding light on these issues that have been facing the people that feed and fuel us, rural Colorado, rural America, for over 20 years. And ultimately, this affects us in the urban corridors. We've taken it for granted. reliable, affordable, abundant, and efficient energy, abundant and affordable food at the grocery store. We've taken it for granted, and it has been under attack, regulatory, politically, mainstream media, all these things for quite some time. But I think people are waking up. So, Trent Luce, it's good to have you. Welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Has it really been a week already?
SPEAKER 13 :
I know. It's crazy, isn't it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Days go slow, the years go fast. Yeah, that's for sure.
SPEAKER 13 :
So what's going on, though? You've been a little busy, yes?
SPEAKER 09 :
I had a massive day yesterday. It just seems like, and I know everybody's busy, but I got one phone call after another and ended up in the middle of six projects, and this was on the heels of going to Valentine, Cherry County, Nebraska, the day before on Monday because of a 23,000 acre fire. But then also yesterday, I accidentally got in the middle of a situation where a mother had her 24 hour old baby taken from her while she was breastfeeding in the hospital.
SPEAKER 13 :
What?
SPEAKER 09 :
Because she was reluctant, not reluctant. She opposed them giving her baby vaccinations, and a rectal thermometer temperature, taking our temperature. She opposed that, and they literally, Child Protective Services, literally brought three police officers in the room. She had already been cleared to leave the hospital, and they took that baby away. And last night at 7 o'clock, on behalf of a lot of people who got involved, the baby was taken from her on March the 26th. And last night at 7 o'clock, the baby was returned to her. It just, I mean, that came at me in the middle of the day. I had no idea anything was going on. Then, of course, I jumped in the middle of it and went to bed very happy, but not as happy as Rhonda Christensen is.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, set this up. What hospital we're at. Give us the details.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sanford Hospital in Bismarck, North Dakota. But I did a little search just to figure out, and I think there's something here that needs to be followed up on. Child Protective Services follows up on leads of 7.1 million children and infants a year that they go look and determine whether or not there's a problem. And when they deem it a problem and being an unfit mother, I mean, we went through the medical report. The baby was born at eight pounds, three ounces. And they considered her an unfit mother because she didn't push, which she says she did. But this was right in the report. She did not push trying to get this baby out. It obviously was too big and she couldn't handle it. Eight pounds, three ounces. It's like, why is this even part of the discussion? What's this really about? And then... Without people even knowing that I had been brought up to speed on what was going on with it, I started getting phone calls from my regular listeners and viewers to say, Trent, I think there's something going on that's the kind of thing that you normally engage in. And so the word got out, and there was a significant number of legislators in North Dakota that engaged. But my phone calls... We're all along the lines that this child protective services in every state are just out of control. And who are they answering to? Who holds them accountable? And I'm bringing it up here today because I'm pretty sure there's plenty of people in our listening area from central Wyoming to Utah to New Mexico that have experiences and stories that are like, what is going on with this where a government entity, child protective services, can take liberty to just take a baby away? while nursing?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I'm just thinking about how important, first of all, baby, new baby, bonding with the mom. Of course, if she's breastfeeding, and you said that they took the baby on the 26th, and here we are to April 1st. So a woman's body, as she's breastfeeding, there's all kinds of things going on. If she's not getting the relief of the baby nursing, that's a problem. And where did the baby go for those five days? Who was taking care of the baby? This is downright scary is what it is.
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The good news is that she did mention, because I was not in the interview, but part of an interview that she was a part of yesterday, she was pumping. and trying to supply the breast milk to her baby, but she has no idea where the baby was. Zero contact with the baby from the time they took it until last night when it was returned. But you are absolutely right. That bond that's created in those first days and that colostrum effect and all of those things that come about with newborns was completely disrupted.
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Wow. Well, we've got trouble out here in River City, Trent, and that is there's a bill out here that, gosh, now, my friends, I think it was 1312, I think it was, that basically if parents don't affirm their child, this is my understanding, I've not read the whole bill yet, affirm their child with their child, sexual dysphoria, thinking they might be transgender, particularly during adolescence, that they could take those kids away from them as well. We're in a really dangerous position right now with our children. And the government doesn't give, no government can ever care for your children the way you would care for your children.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, you're absolutely right. And it's great that we continue to focus and probably should spend more time on what's really going on with our kids because we're literally shaping the future of not only the nation, the world.
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Well, and Colorado's at the tip of the spear. This is very troubling. So I had no idea about that. I know that you've been involved regarding this fire in, what is it, Dad's, I had written this down, it is Dad's Lake Fire. Okay, so bring us up to speed on that.
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So I got a phone call from a gentleman who had just purchased a ranch in Cherry County south of the Valentine National Wildlife Refuge. He purchased it so that his son and his daughter-in-law had a place to raise cows and be a part of the cattle business in Cherry County, which is the number one cow-calf county in the nation, by the way. Got to throw that in there. Cherry County arguably is God's own cow country. It's the largest county in the state of Nebraska. This fire started on the Valentine National Wildlife Refuge. It was started, and in fact, Fish and Wildlife Service issued a statement right away saying that they were responsible for the fire and they would do an investigation into what really truly caused it, which everybody in Cherry County contacted me and said, this is strange. They never admit guilt right away. They never admit there's going to be an investigation, and yet there was. So I jumped in my pickup, and I went up there, and I visited with Matt Blackford, and he's from Brownlee, Nebraska. You want to hear the really interesting story about Brownlee, Nebraska? The population of Brownlee is seven people. Wow. 12 people on the fire department. Wow. It may be the only fire department that is actually larger than the population that it serves. But anyway, it's just how remote this area is. And obviously there are ranchers that are on the volunteer fire department. So Matt gave me a tremendous tour, and we looked at where the damage was. But then I started digging into what's taking place. And the damage is totaling about 23,000 acres. Not all of that, by the way, is on the refuge. The majority of it, in fact, is on deeded property. And the refuge itself is 71,518 acres. The Fish and Wildlife owns 71,516 acres in Cherry County, Nebraska. And it goes back to a 1935 bill that... in fact, created this refuge. And then there was a change in 1978 and the Refuge Revenue Sharing Act that I'll get to in a moment. But what I learned is that the refuge itself, I went and dug through and with the help of Twyla, a friend in Cherry County, we found what the refuge federal government had been paying to the tax base of Cherry County. 21% of what every other person in Cherry County pays. That's the deal, 21%. And that is a direct result of the Refuge Revenue Sharing Act of 1978. So just on first glimpse, I look at this and I see the federal government who gets a major exemption, and it's a payment in lieu of taxes. They get a major exemption because they're a federal government. They cause, and I then yesterday talked to a firefighter who was on the scene watching one of the fish and wildlife vehicles drive through a pasture that they're not grazing properly because there's this whole anti-grazing component of what's going on today in the federal government. And this pickup driving through the pasture refuge was, he said, I literally saw that pickup start four separate fires because of the systems of driving through. I'm sure it still had a catalytic converter on it. And it's been extreme drought. It was a high wind day of 75 degrees. All the conditions were perfect for starting a fire. So one rig with the volunteer fire department was literally following this government pickup through the pasture, putting out the fires that they were starting. That's the mismanagement that's going on. And it turns out the investigation was yesterday, the day I was there, Monday. I don't know what the results of the investigation are. But just a little glimpse of what happened here. Kim, and I'm going to bring this to a close because I know where we're at. The entity that pays 21% of their owed property tax to the county caused a fire that burned a majority off of their property to people who pay 100% of what they owe in property tax, and their livelihoods for the next two years are in peril right now because the feed for their cows just went up in smoke due to mismanagement on federal property.
SPEAKER 13 :
Goodness. We've talked about it regarding the mismanagement of our forests as well, and that rolls over to our grasslands. Also, this, I don't know what to say on that. So is this fire under control now?
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The fire was put out that day. Saturday was completely out. It did follow with five inches of snow, which was a great thing. And now the true danger is coming about. The sandhills of Nebraska were created really by buffalo overgrazing. And then the winds, and we get a lot of wind in the sandhills of Nebraska, the winds come up and blow the sand dunes out. So the concern now is one of two things. If we get a normal rain this spring for the area, and like we had last night, we had a pretty hard rain last night, which we needed badly. But you have a hard rain on 23,000 acres that's just been burned to zero. There's nothing there. You'll have massive erosion, which will then be followed by high winds. And so they've literally changed the landscape of this 23,000 acres forever because of mismanagement on federal land.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's mismanagement. It's not nefarious intention. It's just mismanagement in your opinion, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I don't have that opinion yet. I'm neutral on that question.
SPEAKER 13 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And May 15th, there's going to be a great golf tournament. It is the second annual USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament to raise money and awareness for the Marine Memorial located right here in Golden, Colorado. The event is out at the Ridge Golf Course in Castle Rock. So a great way to play that course. Meet some new people. support the USMC Memorial Foundation. So to reserve your spot, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Trent Luce is on the line, a sixth-generation farmer and rancher. We had talked about this Dad's Lake fire outside of Valentine, Nebraska, in the Sandhills of Nebraska. But he started the conversation with this mom in Bismarck, North Dakota, who had a two-day-old baby, was breastfeeding the baby, was going to be getting out of the hospital. She refused some vaccinations. That's probably the key thing there. And Child Protective Services came in, took the baby for some of those crucial first days after birth, that bonding between mom and baby, after birth. And so one of our listeners, well, Yvonne, she wanted to know, was the baby vaccinated against her will before return back to her? Do you know the answer to that, Trent?
SPEAKER 09 :
I sadly do know the answer to that, and it's yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Wow. Which vaccine was it? Was it that Hep B? Is that the one that they are forcing on?
SPEAKER 09 :
That was one of, I believe, three that the baby was given.
SPEAKER 1 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 13 :
In Bismarck, North Dakota.
SPEAKER 09 :
Against the will of the mother. Wow.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Okay, well, we answered that question. Next thing, Trent, I talked about this in the first hour. One of my friends has three teenage kids. Her daughter, I think, might be a freshman. And it was her project to bring home from school a computerized baby. that they would take care of, feed, change, wakes up at night. I guess this is a pretty realistic computer thing from what producer Joe has said, because he said he did that in junior high school. He's 26. And I remember hearing about that project thinking, oh my gosh, that is so creative that kids would learn how to take care of a baby. And babies are a lot of work. They're a blessing and they're a lot of work. But as I was thinking about this now, is I think this may play into then encouraging kids to have abortions if they have an unplanned pregnancy because they've just had the school experiment where they brought home this computerized baby who they have no connection with because It hasn't gone through pregnancy, delivery, any of that stuff. And I'm thinking about it. I'm like, huh, I wonder if this is another conditioning for young people to choose abortion over babies. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I could absolutely agree to that. But you're spot on. It's maybe a simulation of something close. But until you actually have the hormones, until you actually have all of the chemistry that takes place with childbirth, you can't replicate what is happening. And how long does this project last? I mean, there's so many unanswered questions for me that I could absolutely see where it would contribute to that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I know. I know. And then text line. This came in from Yvonne. She said the baby received these vaccines before the baby was able to receive the colostrum from natural immunization. And that's a really excellent point, I think, as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I don't know. I mean, she had been nursing in the 24 hours that she was there, so there would have been some classroom transfer, but clearly it's a disruption of the natural process. And the reason I brought it up here today, Kim, I wonder how often this is happening all across the country. I have to believe this is not a rare isolated incident.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, gosh, now I want to make sure I get it correct. I want to say it was with Dr. Jack, but, again, I'm not going to say that for sure. But my understanding is if you go in for surgery and you're under and you've not had some vaccinations, you might get vaccinations against your will there as well. This whole thing is a little bit out of control.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know people that tell me that that has happened to them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. So we need to continue to shed light.
SPEAKER 09 :
My question for Rhonda, which I think is a valid one, and she answered it to the best of her ability, is if you had these concerns before you went to the hospital, why didn't you choose an alternative method, home birth or something else? And Number one, she said she explored that, could not find someone that would be suitable to assist her in doing that, and that she had a level of fear that they would come and take the baby away if she did a home childbirth. Well, she went to the hospital. They took the baby away anyway because she knew that she was not going to accept a vaccination regimen of any kind.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and a baby that size, to have a baby that size at home, there could be complications on that as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and it's easy for anybody now to second-guess her and her decisions at that time. But at the end of the day, they took a 24-hour-old baby away from a mother while nursing. That's just unimaginable in today's world.
SPEAKER 13 :
It is. It truly, truly is. Okay, well, we'll ruminate on that for sure. Gosh, if they, yeah, we've got our hands full here in Colorado because I see them setting this whole thing up. Let's just talk a little bit about it. Indoctrination regarding the extreme transgender activist agenda. We're seeing that. pride flags transgender flags at school and so these kids are inundated with it junior high is a very impressionable time and so a kid comes home and says hey you know i think i'm the other sex and parents say you're you know knock it off you're not in colorado it may get to a point where if the parent says knock it off child protective services may come in and take the child We are in tough times right now, Trent. It's bad.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's two other issues I got to work on yesterday.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
In Winnipeg County, Iowa, there's a sheriff, Sheriff Marks, who's been charged by the state's attorney under the direction of the governor, Kim Reynolds. because she is saying that there's a federal mandate on how expected or potential illegal citizens of the county are in the county. And he is saying, I am constitutional sheriff. I'll follow the constitution and the law and protect the citizens of this county and not comply with any mandate from the state or federal government. He said that originally in a Facebook post. And this is so I did a show on it with a gentleman from Iowa talking about what had taken place. And that was on March the 12th. And then lo and behold, this week she did place him under arrest. And so there are many sheriffs in the state of Iowa that are rallying around Sheriff Marks. And we at every turn. This has been my mantra, and I will continue to be our mantra. We have state and federal policies trying to mandate what's happening at the county level, and the sheriff is the ultimate authority in that county. And his county commissioners, everybody in the county is 100% behind the sheriff, and this is going to come to a head at some point in time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Boy, I thought that, okay, this says, I'm looking at this, KCCI 8 News, Iowa Sheriff deletes social media post after AG report calls it illegal. The AG files lawsuit. This is in Iowa. Now, I thought that we were all pulling on the same side regarding this illegal immigration because Kim Reynolds is a Republican, right? We are not.
SPEAKER 09 :
We are not pulling on the same side. In fact, we need to follow the law. These people that are illegal should not be here. But to illegally remove them unconstitutionally and put other citizens of your county at risk is not something we need to be a part of. Okay. This whole deportation of illegals has gotten really murky for me, and it's very troubling. Unfortunately, we have somebody like Sheriff Marks who's willing to take a stand and say, no, I'm not going to comply when it violates the rights of my citizens.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, now I'm not sure I'm understanding. Is he saying that he will not deport illegal immigrants?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, that's not what he's saying. He's saying that he is going to go through the proper procedure to verify that they are illegal immigrants and that the state is wanting them to detain them longer than legality will really allow them to do so. In addition, what the cost is to the county is going to be beyond what they can handle. And that's not just him saying that. I had two other sheriffs come up with that yesterday and tell me that this is a bigger deal than anybody's really talking about.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hmm. I don't know if I agree totally. I'm going to have to research that out. Thank you for bringing that to our attention here. So we're going to continue the discussion with Trent Luce. We have all these important discussions because of all of our great sponsors. And one of those is John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 13 :
It is a great day to be alive, and we're having important discussions. I want to say thank you to Harris Family for their gold sponsorship of the show, and also the Center for American Values is going to have a great event on April 16th. I will be emceeing that event down in Pueblo at the Center with Norma Donlon, who is the widow of Roger Donlon, Medal of Honor recipient. I would love to have you join us, and so check that out by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. And Trent Luz is on the line with me. Trent, I'm going to have to do some more research. I think I may be on the other side of you regarding this sheriff. So I'm going to have to do some homework on it because it looks like he's not following ICE detainers and those things from this initial article. So I think that we may have to have another discussion about this next week. I need to do some more research on it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's perfect because I'm actually headed to Iowa on Friday, so I'll have some on-the-ground stuff. But if a sheriff is asked to do something that's unconstitutional, you can't support that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Sanctuary says that this is Attorney General Byrd said sanctuary counties are illegal. Sheriff Marks was given the chance to retract a statement, follow the law and honor ICE detainers, but he refused. So, yeah, this is going to be so you and I have our homework for next week. That's great. You also mentioned you had this issue. Was there one other thing that you that you'd done this week?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, well, absolutely. You promoted that in your newsletter. We're talking about CO2 pipelines. And the CO2 pipeline is under construction in central Nebraska. And I've been working at letting particularly the first responders, the emergency responders, firefighters, let them know that they are not prepared to deal with a rupture if, in fact, and when the rupture occurs on a highly pressurized CO2 pipeline. But, you know, all the work I've been doing in Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota, that was over a proposed deadline. pipeline. This one is going in. And so I'm trying to bring my neighbors in Nebraska up to speed on how dangerous and this is not just another pipeline.
SPEAKER 13 :
So this pipeline goes from where to where?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it goes, what is taking place is that they have the old tall grass and trailblazers natural gas pipelines are two that run through the middle of Nebraska taking natural gas from Wyoming, into the eastern part of Nebraska. And so what they're doing is converting the trailblazer into a CO2 pipeline, which any engineer will tell you is problematic. But then what they're laying right now, the pipe that is going in the ground, is feeder pipelines from existing ethanol plants to tap into, and those are 8-inch lines for the most part, to tap into the tall grass pipeline that scotia called the trailblazer so it would literally go from eastern nebraska into that denver formation underneath cheyenne because we're still committed and putting co2 in pore space and there is no data that says that it's safe and yet that they're laying pipeline to do it so in the next week you will continue on my substack to see me bring greater awareness to the risk as opposed to my neighbors in Nebraska.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the problem is there's incentives, tax incentives, to make that happen. Otherwise, it would not be happening. And so we've got to get that stopped. We've got several callers. First of all, we've got Gammy on the line. You've got a minute and a half, Gammy.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good morning, French. My phone doesn't work right. You haven't been getting my messages for weeks. I have to go on signal. Now, that's my secret code to you. Now, secondly, I want to read something that you all are very familiar with. After being up all night on another Zoom for the, you know, gender garbage. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient suffering of the colonies. Declaration of Independence. Trent, you have been saying this for two years. We, the people, are going to have to get very local, vet our sheriffs, our law enforcement, our everything, our commissioners, city councils, school boards, and show up in such big numbers that we cannot anymore be ignored and recall people that are doing illegal things. bills like our legislature that are literally eviscerating sterilizing mutilating our children and they're claiming it we're targeting them uh think not we
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and Gammy, you're spot on. And our children are under attack from before they're born till when they're born. And we have a duty to protect them. So thank you, Gammy. And thank you for all the great work that you're doing. We have Ron on the line as well. Ron, what's on your radar?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Kim. Just your first hour about the oceans. I have a couple things. But the oceans, what they're doing... And the plastics and everything, they're dumping, after they get about 70 miles out, they can dump trash. And they go in there and they dump all this trash. Military, commercial, you know, cruise lines, they dump all their trash in the ocean. So that's where they're getting all this plastic and everything. And that's why they got this big island of trash. They need to stop it. And the nets, the abandoned nets are causing issues, too. And the second thing is about the MS-3 or MS-13 guy that they busted. He had automatic weapons and assault weapons, and he's illegal. And he doesn't—I wonder how he passed his background check. So I'm just kind of curious of— you know, how he was able to get that, and they're trying to disarm us.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's a really excellent point. So the bad guys will have firearms, and the law-abiding citizens would not. That's really a focus here in Colorado. Thank you so much on that as well, Ron. So Trent Luce... Gosh, I want to go back, first of all, to this CO2 pipeline. Since they're building it, it's going to be difficult to get it stopped. I'm sure that there's all kinds of incentives, tax incentives or tax credits around this pipeline that you're seeing being built in Nebraska, yes?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, it's 45Q tax credits that they're tapping into. and they get $85 per metric ton for every ton that they bury somewhere. That's the proposal. It hasn't happened yet. There have been, I should mention, it has happened in Decatur, Illinois, where an ethanol plant owned by Archer Daniels Medlin, ADM, they have been for two years. And I was at this location two years ago when they started burying CO2 They've stopped because the seismographic activity taking place and the potential of earthquakes has accelerated to the point where they could no longer take a chance. And yet, with that being known, we're continuing to funnel taxpayer money into these projects, which will create chaos and death.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the other thing is, is these tax credits, many of them are transferable. So they're not really getting the tax. They want these tax credits for the tax benefits. And then, gosh, I can't remember which credit. Yes, it was. They said that then the income from those tax credits is not taxable as well. And we had an expert on. I can't remember who it was, but I would say that they knew what they were talking about. This is a racket is what it is, and it's a dangerous racket, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a production tax credit. You're absolutely right. It's a deduction from the taxes they owe. And Warren Buffett, just as a reminder, last year at the end of his Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting, was happy to report they had a $37 million tax credit that came from their investment in wind alone. That didn't include anything else they're doing, just wind alone. $37 million they did not pay in taxes because of that tax credit. And that's what happens, Kim. That's the moral of the story. We're transferring wealth from people who are working hard every day to make something work to these individuals who are already wealthy. It's a continued acceleration of transfer of wealth.
SPEAKER 13 :
And the hypocrisy of Warren Buffett when I think it was Obama was looking or saying that, hey, everybody needed to pay their fair share, when in essence they wanted to make everyday people pay more in taxes. decimating the middle class and warren buffett said well percentage wise my secretary pays more in taxes than i do well i guess the reason is is because he's taken advantage of a number of these tax credits so hey warren why don't you step up and pay your quote-unquote fair share right that would simplify the whole thing would it not Well, it would. So let's lower taxes across the board and let everyday people have more money in their pocket. And it will decrease this wealth disparity that has been occurring because of PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties. They're all in bed together making sure that they are feathering their pockets with the Green New Deal, if you will. We've got a minute left. Trent Luce, as always, it's riveting. And so your final thought. Did I lose him? Sounds... Okay, Trent.
SPEAKER 08 :
I made a mistake, Kim. My fault.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, your final thought.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my final... I'm sorry. I'm what Danny said. All of these things are local. We can't sit back and say I can't do anything about it. We must engage. In fact, the Constitution says you must be a dutiful citizen to keep these rights or you will lose them. That's why we need to have faith and get engaged.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and to Gammy's point, I love the fact that she quoted the Declaration of Independence. We need to make sure that we understand our founding documents, our declaration, and our Constitution. We need to adhere to that, that vision that all men are created equal by God with these rights of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. Trent Luce, we've got our homework for next week. We will talk next week, and you have a great day.
SPEAKER 09 :
Can't wait. See you then.
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Join Dana as she navigates through the complexities of modern politics and media. This episode examines outrageous political stunts including Senator Cory Booker's surprisingly energetic filibuster, underscored by hilarious childhood memories that highlight the absurdity of these tactics. Alongside riveting discussions on the manipulation of media narratives, Dana engages listeners with her unique storytelling that both entertains and informs, bringing clarity to the often chaotic world of news and politics.
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SPEAKER 08 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 02 :
These are some real bangers today, so let's see if we can get through these. All right, first and foremost, this is the headline at the smoking gun. Everyone knows what conch is, C-O-N-C-H. Let me just establish that. Florida woman charged with conch bonking. 40-year-old Florida woman was charged with felony battery because she attacked a dude with a giant conch shell, according to police. They said that Nikki Quarterman was very intoxicated when she got into a domestic argument with a 63-year-old victim. They've been in an on-off relationship. And she, after the argument, she undressed and broke everything. And then she grabbed a 10 to 12 inch dried conch shell and swung it at his head multiple times, threw it at him. He got a laceration to his hand when he tried to block it. And then she locked herself in the garage. She was taken into custody, posted $15,000 bond. She was arrested six months ago for pretty much the same thing, except no conch shell this time. So now she's got all kinds of battery, DUI, assault, law enforcement, oh my gosh, everything. Her rap sheet is forever long. A Florida death row inmate says his morbid obesity will complicate the lethal injection, and he wants leniency. Or just use another shot. The needles aren't expensive. You know, I mean, if it takes more, it takes more. He wants leniency. 48-year-old Michael Tanzi is morbidly obese, and he's got some stuff I don't care about because he's a killer, an unrepentant killer. And so he says that it would cause needless suffering. Well, that's kind of the... point. I want suffering. Maybe I shouldn't say that, but I do. So no, gotta go, dude.
SPEAKER 09 :
Friend, you are somebody that is a hero who folks don't know their name in the countries that you've affected with your strength on foreign policy. Dear God, my friend, I yield the floor for a question while retaining the floor. Excuse me, I'm going to say that correctly. I yield for a question while retaining the floor. I do not yield the floor.
SPEAKER 04 :
I ask my friend and colleague from New Jersey if he is familiar with Psalm 30, verse 5. Oh, Lord.
SPEAKER 02 :
Wow. You hear that giant sniff? I'm not saying that he probably had like a line of booger sugar right there on the podium, but I'm saying that he may have. That's Cory Booker, who is tweaked out to the nth degree. I mean, I have seen actual tweakers on cops look less awake than him. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. Cory Booker, who is bright eyed and high, is I'm not saying he's high, but I am. He's on the floor of the Senate and he's filibustering. Those eyes, though. Demized dough. You want to hear a funny story that's about that is that I will bring back to Cory Booker's eyes. All right. So picture it. It was like seven-year-old Dana, right? And my grandma, just keep watching his eyes because this is terrifying. If I saw that, by the way, in my bedroom at night, like the devil eyes coming at me like that, those are crazy eyes. What is up with the move of people who just think if they open their eyes more, it makes them more intimidating? It doesn't. You just look nuts. So when I was about seven years old, my grandma got me this cheap baby doll, right? Just like as a nice thing. She's at the dollar store, you know, it was probably made in China, you know, back before, you know, we really did not like them. Although we were, we were with them anyway. So she got me this baby doll and it was one of those where you laid it back and its eyes closed and you pulled it up and it opened. Well, this doll was psycho and its eyes just got like stuck open. And there was no way it was just a default. It was because of her, the plastic flesh of her eye cavity just hung over and it just wasn't, you know, there's a lot of, we would have had to do an upper eye lift and all this on this doll. And I just was at seven years old. I just was not technically able and equipped to do it. So I just had to deal with it. And my grandma was like, well, you can pretend her eyes are closed. You can't tell a kid that. Pretend my doll's eyes are closed. They're wide open. She looks like a damn demon. It's weird. So anyway, had this doll. Couldn't get her eyes closed. So I sat her in the corner of my room. And I woke up in the middle of the night one night. And I remember looking across my room. And it was fairly dark. There was a street light outside that still filtered through the blinds. So there was a little bit of diffused light outside. And the way that the light, the diffused light was coming through those slats on my plastic blinds just hit that doll's face and illuminated those eyes in a way that was more than unnerving. Dare I say it was terrifying. And it was like the eyes were illuminated from within. Right. This crazy doll. And I, you know, like any normal seven year old had normal seven year old thoughts. I'm looking at this. I'm like, this doll is possessed. This doll is going to cut my throat open while I sleep. Oh, my gosh. So I didn't want to go to sleep. I wanted to watch that doll. And it was creepy. I ended up like trying to hide it out of my room. My grandma would, you know, she was babysitting me. She would put it back in my room and I, but I hadn't really thought of that story until I watched Cory Booker on the floor with his coke eyes. And he's filibustering. And is he trying to look angry? You know, when people do that, they're like, I'm going to open my eyes real big at you in an attempt to be intimidating. And the rest of us are just like, no, you're not intimidating. You are crazy, though, but you're not intimidating. It's the same thing. I just got that whole vibe. So he's filibustering. They're mad over Trump's policies, essentially, right? They're mad over Trump's policies. I love the, I yield the floor while we're chaining the floor. He's a meme. Oh, man, I'm going to use these pictures forever. I want to apologize to all the subscribers to the newsletter over at Substack, Chapter and Verse, because I just found a bunch of pictures that you're going to see a lot of for all of my headlines from here on out. I'm really sorry about that, but it's worth it for me. All right, so he's on the floor. He's carrying this out on the floor, and he does look nuts. And they're trying to... I think that they are trying to figure out – well, I think some in the party are trying to figure out, wow, everyone hates us. What can we do? Nobody likes us. What are we going to do? We've got to figure something out. And I think that they believe that these stunts somehow endear them to the American voter or even to their base. Their base wants them to get angry, but they don't specifically state about what – or what to do with said anger. They don't actually say it. I mean, man, cocaine is a hell of a drug. Good night. Good night. So he's been, I think he's trying to get B-roll footage. Have you seen the pictures of him? I mean, they're amazing. They're one of my favorite. Here, I gotta share this with you in Slack because we can use these photos forever. So what's the point of a filibuster? What exactly do they think that they're going to accomplish here? He's on, is it hour 14?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think it's 17 now.
SPEAKER 02 :
Spartacus is still at it. Has he said anything about the Democrat-fueled targeting of Tesla consumers?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, no. No Democrat has, actually.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mm-hmm. 13 hours, he runs his mouth, and he hasn't said anything about at all Tesla?
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 02 :
No. 13 hours. Has he had this energy for the whole 13 hours? That's a good question. I mean, he's going to OD if he keeps it up. That's why I'm asking for his... I don't know.
SPEAKER 08 :
You get bathroom breaks, right?
SPEAKER 02 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
You don't get any... So he's got to wear what depends?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think you can tag team it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay. So...
SPEAKER 02 :
I think he can do tag team. I mean, not to my knowledge. I don't think that you can. But yeah, he's for 13 hours. For what? We need more government money. Look at him. He's mad. If you're watching the simulcast, you're looking at a photo of a man mad that the government doesn't take care of him enough. That his sugar daddy government, oh my gosh, they're just so great. Get out, he says in this image. Get out if you don't like more government. If you don't like more government, you can exit now. Does he look intimidating to you?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, he never has. But imagine being on the side of not wanting waste, fraud and abuse to be removed. Imagine being on that side of the argument.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I don't. I mean, if it's about saving money, all these people. I heard a soundbite from Elizabeth Warren this morning. who I think it was, I don't think it was from yesterday, but it was a soundbite where she said that, you know, Elon Musk, he's going to get his hands on your, she swear to you, hands to sky. She said, Elon Musk is going to take your social security and they're going to spend it on tax breaks for billionaires. I have heard this phrase over and over again. When I heard her say it, that was it. That is one of the stupidest things that I've ever heard in my life. It's, it looks, it, it, the reasoning is the reasoning of someone who only has one brain cell to their name. And they're trying real hard. It's one of the dumbest things that I've ever heard in my life. So just imagine. So you're saying that Elon Musk, who has no capability to do anything except audit what he's allowed to audit under a specific type of NDA with read-only access, he doesn't actually access any sensitive information. He can see where the government is wasting money and spending money, and he can make recommendations as to what needs to be cut from everything that he's taken in. because he's not Congress and he can recommend it to Congress as is their right to determine whether or not they want to cut it since they're the power of the purse. And then they want to use the savings to maybe pay off our debt. But Elizabeth Warren is insistent that it's going to go to tax breaks for billionaires who, frankly, I think everybody needs a big fat tax break. I think we need a big fat abolishing the IRS. But we have a bunch of people who are absolute pansies in all levels of government. And that's never going to happen because they're more worried about them staying in office than they are you paying lower taxes or none at all because it's unconstitutional. They care more about their seats than they do the Constitution. If you're not voting to abolish the IRS, that's an unfortunate stat. That's a fact of your life. So this talking point, these talking points that I keep hearing, oh my gosh, Elon Musk is going to take all our money. He's going to take all... First off, tax cuts don't cost. You're not paying for them. In order to allow people to keep more of their own money, you're not paying them. You have to spend less. Less. Meaning we're not going to be spending stuff on trans propaganda in Africa. Nothing like that. It's just... Wild that these are the talking points get dumber with each passing year. Like we were talking about the guy who got deported from Maryland, the innocent Maryland dad who is literally a member of MS-13. And that's why he got deported. And now all the capital libertarians are freaking out. Oh, my gosh. Trump is just pulling people off the street. Now, I call balls and strikes. The Atlantic was leading, leading the hysteria this morning, leading it. If that were the case, I would be one of the people criticizing it. But that's not what's happening. That's not what's happening. It's just so disingenuous. So disingenuous. And they, I mean, look, they said, well, he's not convicted of being a missearching. Why are we going to waste taxpayer dollars on court proceedings for someone who's not in the country illegally? A gang member who's not in the country illegally just to prove that he's a gang member so progressives won't protest him getting deported. I mean, I was explaining this to one of my kids over spring break, this idea that the whole, whether it was the Flores Agreement and the grace period for deportations for kids who were brought over unwillingly by their parents, like little kids. I question your innocence when you've been in the country for decades and you can file paperwork to go to college and get scholarships and for jobs and all of this other stuff, but you just can't seem to get yourself You know, especially when Flores was in effect and you had any kind of deportation. I mean, you were excluded from that under the Flores Agreement. So why were people not taking advantage of that and going through and becoming starting the process in order to protect themselves when they were excluded from deportation as a result of that? It doesn't make any sense. So I don't have a lot of sympathy there. I don't have a lot of sympathy. Audio 7x7, this is another representative who's very upset. You can't fire people. You can't fire people if you're trying to find efficiencies. What? Listen.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I would say that it's important that we we go in with a with a scalpel and not a chainsaw. Right. I would say that you don't fire the workforce if you're trying to find efficiencies. These are the folks who know where the efficiencies can be made.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it's them. They need to go. That's why. Oh, it's them. The calls coming from inside the house, ma'am. It's them. They got to go. And yes, you do need a chainsaw. Why is that a talking point? Is it because Malaya gave Elon Musk a chainsaw? You need a chainsaw. Oh, we need to just be very specific? No, we're past that. I don't think people realize how dire the circumstances are. They don't realize how unbelievably dire the circumstances are, how fragile everything is economically at this point, how much debt we have. The time for surgical cuts was like 30 years ago. 40 years ago. Now it's chainsaw time. And I think anyone who disagrees with it, respectfully, I think that you really underestimate the severity of the situation that we are in right now. Our partners that help make the program possible, our friends at Caltech, the PR57 rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7, one of the latest offerings from our friends over at Caltech. And this is incredibly innovative because it's super... Super light and super thin. It's like 40% lighter than the next lightest 5.7 that's out there. Two different ways they achieved this. The innovative rotary barrel, making it the lightest 5.7 on the market. And it has a unique top loading design that replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips for slimmer carrier profiles in a 20 plus 1 capacity. Built to perform, engineered for simplicity and reliability. Quickest and easiest field strip available. And this is something you actually can carry because it's so light and thin. Also, everybody can afford it. MSRP. is only $3.99. So get the first of its kind, Kel-Tec PR57 Rotary Barrel Pistol Chambered in 5.7. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com to learn more. Innovation Performance Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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A carjacker found out the wrong way when he tried to carjack a citizen who was lawfully armed and protected themselves. A man was shot and killed Sunday night in an act of self-defense because he tried one of several armed assaults in the area. The Hardyville Police Department got word of an armed suspect who was trying to carjack a DoorDash driver, and then he tried to run away on foot. They responded to the call. They heard gunshots. The guy, he tried another carjacking. He pointed his gun at the driver of the car, fired at least once. The driver fired shots in return, and the carjacker was struck. The driver was initially detained. That's standard operating procedure. But, of course, they determined it was self-defense, and so they released him. Of course they did, because it's self-defense. You just don't carjack people, and you won't get shot. There's a consequence. They're trying to still panic. Goldman Sachs lifts U.S. recession probability to 35%. We're in it now, though. I don't know why we're talking about lifting anything. The expectation. We're in it now. YouTube is about to eclipse Disney as the biggest media company in the world. That's really sad because YouTube is horrific when it comes to broadcasting anything. They hate us. They've demonetized us multiple times. They have outright deleted videos of mine that they don't like. It's heinous. So I can't. I mean, that just is the state of everything that that is the biggest media company. That's kind of unfortunate, but they're overtaking Disney. I don't really care about this at all. I don't. I've never watched the show. Kelly Clarkson is going to take over from Hoda Cobb on the Today Show. Nobody cares. Nobody watches. Nobody actually watches this. What is it? One of the Bush daughters and Hoda. And now they're having Kelly Clarkson on. I thought she had her own show. I don't know, maybe it's just not, I don't know. Does it mean I just don't care? I do not watch daytime talk. At all. 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Can I just say that I could go forever without watching the Timothy Dalton S&M stuff? How in the world is that in a Taylor Sheridan series? Why do we need that? It literally does nothing to the plot. We get it that Timothy Dalton is a weirdo. We get it. He's a weirdo without trying to be a weirdo. He's one of those people, right? You ever meet people that look creepy without being creepy and you're like, you're creepy. You know what I mean? And if they did something creepy, you tell your friends, I'm so not shocked because Timothy Dalton's like that. He's like a walking one-man horror show. You don't need to have S&M scenes in every episode to reinforce the fact that the guy is... And he's a sadomasochist and all this other stuff. You don't have to do that. So I could do without it. And it's a pain in the backside to fast forward through all that because I don't want to watch that. Now, the series I like because of one actress in it. She's the actress. I can't pronounce her last name. Her first name is Julia. She plays Alex Dutton. So if you haven't watched the series, it's really good. We are on, what, episode six million of Spencer Dutton trying to get home. This, you know, wild Greek tragedy, 10-year journey, modern-day Odysseus trying to get back home to his ranch in Montana. I like the actor who plays him. He's got good chemistry with the actress who plays Alex Dutton. And it is, it's a good, it's a good series. Helen Mirren is fabulous in it. Harrison Ford is really good in it. Is he really trying to be old and slow moving or is that him? That's a good question. He's really good in the series. He doesn't really have to do much. He's very good.
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I'm also no acting coach.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, but you, I mean, he sells it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm wholly unqualified.
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I can almost smell the tobacco on him. You know, like my grandfather was a cattle rancher and he's, you know, old grizzled cattle rancher and, and he would smoke Marlboros and I could just, that's what he reminds me of. Anyway, it's such a, it's a very good series, but right now Alexa Dutton has been trying to get to her husband's ranch in Montana and she's currently caught in a snow drift. In a car. And there's probably going to be a Bigfoot out there that's going to try to rape her. I'm just saying, because she's been going through hell for this last season. You haven't watched any of it, Cain. Have you watched any of the Yellowstone series?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I've seen some Yellowstone episodes, but I got rid of Paramount like a long time ago. So I can't watch it.
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The only TV shows that I actually watch are those people are people ask me, do you watch watch White Lotus? No. And there's there's one show that I was so not interested in watching. But Walton Groggins is in it and he's a brilliant actor. And he apparently plays somebody who's so over the top and crazy that I'm it's like something gemstones. I'm interested in watching that just for his. He's a great character actor just for watching him. I don't know. But I don't watch a lot. So I could do, like I said, with all the weird Timothy Dalton stuff, I could do without all of that. But I want more of the Spencer and Alex storyline. I want more of them and I want more Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren. I don't care about the whatever rainwater girl story. I don't even care. Don't care. Some chick out in the prairie. Just I wrap it up. It's like such it's filler. So I don't know. That's the only stuff because every now and then people will go, well, what is it that you're watching? And I put stuff out if I'm like reading something or watching something, but I don't watch a lot of a lot of things.
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Join us as we dissect the political battlefield that is raging in Wisconsin and Florida. The stakes couldn't be higher with significant local races potentially altering the national landscape. We unravel the dynamics at play, including endorsements, voter complacency, and the critical need for action. Stay tuned to hear direct insights, media narratives, and what they mean for the country's political future, as well as engaging discussions on how today's political choices shape our tomorrow.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Dillon.
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It's a big day. It's April 1st, but don't be fooled. Do not consider staying home if you're a Wisconsin voter. You've got to fight for your country, like you did on November 5th. Remember how great it felt? You voted, and you got the outcome that you prayed for. Now you've got to do it all over again. And I remember fighting for Georgia, and we got stuck with Ossoff and Warnock because people didn't vote. Republicans stayed home. And I don't want to beat you up, Georgia, but you happy with those guys? Look, Trump got a mandate to take this country in a different direction. He could lose his ability to take this country in a different direction. if Wisconsin voters don't elect Brad Schimel on the Supreme Court. The angry left is pouring tons of money into this race to get her over the finish line so that she can change the makeup of the House of Representatives. This election has huge national implications. Hakeem Jeffries promised it. He said the quiet part out loud. I want you to hear a report out of Florida. I had a rare moment of a fit of pique with my pal Mark Davis, who this morning said, I'm pretty confident about Florida. I think we're okay there. You can't take that tone. We've got to fight. We've got to fight. We've got to fight. You've got to vote. We've got to save this country. And if you stay home, you can't listen to people who say, oh, it's all probably, oh, Trump took that district by 30. We're all right there. Oh, it's okay. People in Wisconsin are tired of the lunacy, even in Wisconsin. No, you've got to show up. You've got to take an hour out of your life and do your constitutional duty. Here's a report. From WKMG, this is News 6 in Orlando. And I want you to hear this report and realize that you cannot take Florida District 6 for granted. You cannot take District 1 for granted. You've got to fight for Wisconsin and the Supreme Court. You've got to show up. The heavy lifting is now. And the answer is at our fingertips if we will only exercise force. The right to vote.
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This local race is also in the national spotlight because Randy Fine is endorsed by President Trump. I spoke with both candidates who both believe they'll win.
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Josh Wheel and his liberal Washington backers want open borders and higher taxes.
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Have you seen this political ad for U.S. House candidate Republican Randy Fine? How about this one for his challenger, Democrat Josh Wheal? The special election race for U.S. House seat in District 6 is heating up. It was left vacant by Mike Walz, who is now President Trump's national security advisor. It's a large, heavy Republican stronghold that covers parts of Volusia, Flagler, St. John's, Merriam-Putnam, and Lake Counties. President Trump won here by 30 points, and he's endorsed Randy Fine.
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I've been honored to see him several times already since he became president. He gave me a challenge coin. It's actually not fair to call it a challenge coin because it's the size of like a dessert plate. But to honor me for the big win that we had in our primary with 83 percent. And I appreciate his support as I get ready for my election on April 1st.
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But challenger Josh Wheel thinks fine having President Trump's endorsement will actually work against him.
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When we flip this seat and we take it back and the only thing my opponent ran on was Donald Trump's endorsement, every single Republican legislator in this country is going to have to start being accountable to their constituents and representing them with fidelity in Congress.
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We went out to Lake County to hear what voters think about fine.
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He's a Republican and he's Trump's backing. That's the main reason.
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He's honest, he's not corrupt, and he'll do a good job. So you're voting for Randy Fine? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
Republicans just seem to make the country do better. Like all the prices and everything, everything just seems to be better.
SPEAKER 01 :
And we'll. He wants to protect Social Security, protect the environment, public school system. Randy Fine is way too conservative for my tastes.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's all I'm going to say. I know there are some people in this county that would disagree with this, but the Republican Party has failed, especially the senior citizens.
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The race is far from over. You can expect to see more TV ads up until Election Day on April 1st.
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Election Day has arrived. And with Florida, do not say, well, we're safe. And Wisconsin, my gosh, I know you got a mountain to climb in Wisconsin, but we had a mountain to climb on November the 5th. We had a mountain to climb in November of 2016. You know, we can win this if you show up. If you stay home, we're going to lose and the country loses. And the Democrats don't quite get it. There's an interesting dynamic at play here about voter turnout. I want to share with you what Senator Chris Coons from Delaware said about why the Democrats lost in November. This really intrigues me because I want to share with you an editorial in the New York Times suggesting that Chris Coons doesn't get it. Democrats like him don't understand it. And when you've lost the New York Times, that's really saying something. Listen to Chris Coons on CNN.
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So I think the reason we lost principally had to do with millions of folks choosing not to vote. We lost to the couch more than we lost to Donald Trump. And if we focus on the issues that those folks care about and that we haven't talked enough about or fought for them hard enough on, I think we win.
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Okay, I want to share with you what the New York Times editorial said over the weekend. It's fascinating. Let's dive in today. Special election on the table today. Wisconsin Supreme Court. Voter ID on the ballot in Wisconsin. Come on, Wisconsin. You got to come through for us. The country's at stake. 800-655-MIKE. Happy April Fool's Day. No pranks here. April 1st, 2025. We are in the Relief Factor studios for another day. Strapping on the armor and going to work. What do you think? 800-655-6453. You'll want to hear this New York Times editorial. Very important stuff. What's at stake here? We'll share it with you coming up.
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It's so funny. A friend of mine sent an article from the Wall Street Journal saying when you've lost the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal says it was a pleasant surprise to read a weekend editorial in the New York Times of all places suggesting the Democrats take a step back from the progressive ledge. The New York Times, according to the Wall Street Journal, is now urging Democrats to reconsider a number of the destructive ideas that party leaders embraced after reading about them in the New York Times. James Freeman of the Wall Street Journal says, let's be optimistic and call this a great start if the newspaper wants to embark on an era of reform. I'm not sure I want them to reform. You know what I mean? Let them be crazy. Stay out there in crazyville. And you may never win another election. Let's face it, the Wall Street Journal says it's a pleasant surprise. I mean, let me quote for you. what the Wall Street Journal says, what James Freeman says. America is not well served when one of its two major political parties embraces both misery-inducing Sandinista socialism and the race and gender obsessions of the radical left. Sadly, by the end of last week, it seemed that the kooks were once again winning the day in the debate over the party's future. But what a difference a day makes. Along comes the New York Times. And the headline in the Times is, the Democrats are in denial about 2024. Party leaders claim that most Americans still prefer Democrats, but that voter apathy allowed Trump to win. That's the Chris Coons quote that you heard just now on CNN. According to his logic, Democrats don't need to worry about winning back Trump voters and should instead try to animate the country's natural liberal majority. Tim Walz said, I don't think we're going to win over those 77 million that voted for Trump. I'm concerned with the 90 million who stayed home. It was an unfortunate echo of Hillary saying that millions of Trump voters were deplorables and irredeemable. The journal says Tim Walz's odd analysis reflects deep confusion about the millions who stayed home. The New York Times editorial board punctures that delusion, writing, Non-voters appear to have favored Mr. Trump by an even wider margin than voters. Nate Cohn, the Times chief political analyst, reported, And David Shore, the bracingly honest Democrat data scientist, put it well. We're now at a point where the more people vote, the better Republicans do. The more people vote, the better the GOP does. The Times editorial board then gives Democrats some advice on how to regain voters' trust. And most strikingly, says the New York Times, Democrats need to recognize that the party moved too far left on social issues after Obama left office in 2017. Even today, the party remains too focused on personal identity rather than shared values. Even on economics. The New York Times editorial suggests an open mind on ideas that don't involve central planning. The people at the Times wrote, where is the governor who does more than talk about an abundance agenda and actually cuts regulations to help America build? New ideas should come from both the party's progressives and its centrists. The Wall Street Journal concludes by saying, whoever the weekend editors are at the Times opinion section, let's hope they get a promotion. Now, again, I'm back to, I don't know if I want this to happen. If the Democrats figure this out and become more reasonable and moderate, and see, my fear is they will do so in order to try to win elections, and then once they get in power, they're going to go back to their same old tricks. I mean, let's face it. You trust Republicans. Today's Democrat? There aren't a lot of reasonable moderate Democrats left. John Fetterman is one of them. He just recently canceled his town hall meeting. He didn't want to have a town hall meeting. The Democrats in Pennsylvania are livid at his reasonableness, at his relative moderate stances. So I don't think that there's any coming back for them. Let me turn it over to you and see what you think. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. And again, I'm going to remind you all day long. In fact, let me hear from Wisconsin and Florida voters. I want to hear from people in Florida District 6. I want to hear from people in District 1. I want to hear from Wisconsin members of our audience. Call me. Tell me. Are you voting today? Are you encouraging others to vote? Do you know how crucial these elections are today? It's all on the line. Please do your part. Give me a call if you're out voting or if you can give me a lay of the land. Be our reporter on the spot here. Be our Roger P. Shulman, our newsman, by calling in at 1-800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Janet's in Indianapolis. Hi, Janet. Welcome aboard.
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Hi, I just turned on your program, so I don't know if anybody else has said this, but I can't understand why people that went and fought and bled for us to have the right to vote can't get off their couch and go vote and be a considerate. that loves their country and does something to fight for it. We have to fight to keep the good people in and get them in.
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It's the eternal mystery. I swear for the rest of my life, I'm going to wonder how people can bellyache and gripe and moan about the other party and the craziness, and they don't vote. The turnout, I mean, Janet, even the turnout in 2024, I mean, in the general election, too many people stay home, and I don't get it, Janet. Are people that lazy? Are people that detached? Do they not care?
SPEAKER 26 :
Well, we can't take this country for granted. We're so blessed to live here, but we have to fight to keep it the way it needs to be without the evil... Taking dominance. We have to get off our blessed assurance and go do our due duty.
SPEAKER 06 :
I love it. I love it. I love it. Janet, I'm going to hold you up as one of my favorite callers of the day. You cannot rest on blessed abundance. You've got to say, look, we've got to fight. The fight in many ways is just beginning. You think Donald Trump said November 5th we won and now it's over? Now we just coast? You think he's coasting? You think anybody on the Republican side are sitting around? Maybe some of them are. I about flipped when Mark Davis said that to me this morning. Well, I feel pretty good about Florida. We're okay there. No! Can't say that! It's not over till it's over. These are the Democrats, don't you know? Don't take that for granted. One open line, 800-655-MIKE. Spring is here, and my pillow is ready to meet the moment with the Spring Sheet Sale. Got to be careful with the way I say that. The Spring Sheet Sale. Say that three times fast. You know the Giza Dream Sheets that I've been telling you about? These and the percale sheets, holy cow, check out this offer. Just in time for spring, you can get your very own set of Queen Giza Dream bed sheets from MyPillow. You'll save 50% or more. You can get the queen size. Queen-sized Giza Dream or percale bedsheets for as low as $29.98 with the promo code MikeG. That's an extraordinary offer. And when you go to the website, check out the pillows, the slippers, the doggy beds, the loungewear. and more. MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. Click on that box, and then with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, here's Mike Geller.
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I'm so blessed to have a lot of good people around me. I say that all the time. Every morning I visit with Mark Davis, who's the morning host in Dallas, Fort Worth, on 660 AM The Answer. He's a legendary... Veteran talk show host. And I said, gosh, we got big day today. We got Wisconsin. We got Florida. And Mark said, well, I'm feeling pretty good about Florida. It's reliably red. And it kind of I had like a little delayed reaction. I should have screamed at him when he said it. Because that's what we make. That's the mistake we Republicans make. Well, we're all right. We got this. Trump's in the White House. We've got majority control in the Senate and the House. Do you know what's at stake? And do you know how the Democrats are salivating at the chance to flip any of these seats? It's going to be a massive upset. Oh, my gosh. Look at the Trump agenda has been thwarted. The only place... that we can prevail is at the ballot box. I was looking at some numbers this morning at how many activist judges are trying to stop the Trump agenda. You get some lone federal judge, some leftist Obama appointee like Boasberg, And they rule against and against and against. The numbers are staggering how many times now judges are attempting to block the America First agenda. So we have to stay in the majority in Washington. And it's no secret. In fact, Christian, when we get ready, when we talk to Roger P. Shulman in the newsroom here in just a moment to get the latest on Florida and Wisconsin, let's have the Hakeem Jeffries clip from yesterday pulled up and ready to go where he let the cat out of the bag and explained that if the liberal judge in Wisconsin wins, if she gets in, she's going to redistrict and deliver more Democrat votes seats in the House of Representatives. If the Democrats, and look, the Republicans have a slim majority right now. If the Democrats take the majority in the House, wow, are we in for a mess. Because they'll start impeaching Trump, and you think that some lone activist judge can stop his agenda? Wait till you see what the House of Representatives can do. If... Brad Schimel loses today in Wisconsin. What about the two races in Florida? Nobody knows Florida politics better than our veteran newsman, Roger P. Shulman, who joins us now from the newsroom. Roger, good to see you, and we know you're all over it. Tell us about the Florida races and how things are looking.
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I'm going to tell you a little story first about a Florida race a few years ago. We had a guy named Mark Ober. He'd been the state attorney in the Tampa area for years, usually ran unopposed. He was Republican. Everybody loved him. Prosecutors and defense attorneys thought he was fair. He was harsh on crime. The law enforcement loved him. And then George Soros came in, had this good looking guy named Andrew Warren. bought a bunch of TV ads, I mean, a massive amount, just poured money into this place and raised all kinds of false questions about Ober and Warren won. And it was because the Republicans said, oh, we don't need to vote for Ober. He's been here for a thousand years. There's no chance he's going to be removed. Well, he lost because... The Republicans were complacent and let this happen. And this is what this is.
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It is dangerous. When Mark said that this morning, I about flipped and I later I thought about it. I thought, no, no, no. We can't say, well, I feel pretty good about Florida. I mean, what's Florida looking like right now? We're talking about the two seats that were vacated by Mike Waltz and Matt Gaetz, right?
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Yes, yes. Democrat Josh Weil is taking on Republican Randy Fine in a special election in District 6. That runs from Ocala to north of Daytona Beach. And the seat is vacant as Michael Waltz was chosen by the president to be his national security advisor. While the Democrat got $10 million in donations, Fine only has $1 million in his war chest. That shows that a lot of outside people are... are donating money, and he has a good war chest. In District 1 in the Panhandle, Trump-backed former Florida Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Petronas hopes to be the Republican victor in the congressional seat formerly held by Representative Matt Gaetz. Now, Democrat Gaye Villamont is running against Petronas and says she can beat him, and a lot of money for her. Huge amounts of money has come in from states like New York and California. And Massachusetts for her. So they're got they've got a pretty good war chest. And it's you know, anything can happen if the voters don't get out. And speaking of Wisconsin, which we were a moment ago, weather in Madison, 37 degrees, Milwaukee, 34, 36 in Eau Claire in the northern part of the state. So it's not horrible. It's just a great typical weather. Wisconsin Day. So there's no excuse for people not to get out. It's not raining. It's not snowing. It's not hideous. It's just an ugly old winter day in Wisconsin. That's why everybody comes here. But if people are complacent, this could happen. We could lose. We've got, what, 218 Republicans in the House. Democrats have 215. That is too close a margin. If anything happens at all, we could be in big trouble in the House of Representatives and the Trump agenda could be going down the toilet, to put it rather crudely.
SPEAKER 06 :
Or mildly. I mean, Roger, don't you love how the Democrats complain about Elon Musk's money influence in elections? And you've got outside, you've got activists that are pumping in hundreds of millions of dollars into these races all over America. You know, they always project. They always do what they accuse us of doing.
SPEAKER 23 :
Of course, that's part of the, what is it, the Pliven, that campaign. book of how to win elections that they came up with years ago that the Clintons use. They've all used this playbook to win. Accuse the Republicans of doing the same thing they're doing. Accuse them of having billionaires when they've got Soros pouring huge amounts of money to defeat Republicans all over the country. It's just the same old thing, and we fall for it every time. That's what's so sad.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, let's hope we don't fall for it today. We've got to pray. We've got to be confident. We've got to be optimistic. But we've got to vote. Wisconsin, Florida, you've got to vote. Get out and vote, vote, vote. Roger P. Shulman, thank you, sir. We appreciate you checking in from our newsroom. Great to see you. Okay, more coming up, including a report from Fox News that the Tesla attacks are continuing. Now, I don't see a lot of that anecdotally or even in the media a lot, except I see that report and I wonder if you saw the guy who got caught red-handed and what he said. This is astounding. And it turns out his identity was revealed. He's a business owner. Has his own company. Doylestown, Pennsylvania. I would love to talk to this guy. And I don't know why I'm obsessed with this. I really am working hard at trying and thinking about what it feels like to hear from the other side and let them hear from us. Have dialogue. Maybe it's because of some of the personal interactions I've had with friends and family who don't agree with me politically. But If we're ever going to survive as a country, we've got to have some kind of a meeting of the minds. There's got to be some area of common ground. So I want to break this down. This guy caught red-handed scrolling a swastika on the side of a Tesla and something that Fox News is reporting is continuing to happen. And I want to see what you think about his reaction. We've got a lot to break down this hour. Welcome in. It's a Wednesday episode. April Fool's Day 2025. 2025, no fooling around, especially in Wisconsin and Florida. Join us. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453.
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These tariff schedules in Canada, Mexico, and now 13 other countries. We've got a list of 15 coming out next week, 15 countries. What Trump is trying to do is examine all of these, and some of them were put in place right after the Second World War. So there's a lot of imbalance. I think this is one giant negotiation, Trey, and we're starting April 2nd.
SPEAKER 08 :
In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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It is going to be a big day tomorrow, April 2nd, and that's where there will be certainty. There will be a conclusion. We'll see what Trump is going to do. The Wall Street Journal theorizes that he's been sort of negotiating with the promise of massive tariffs. Nations are wondering what he's going to do. Other countries are. My financial guy yesterday said, because I'm panicking about a real estate deal, and he said, look, just sit tight. We've got to get through tomorrow, and then people will be, once there's certainty, then people will be more willing to free up their own economy as well as the nation. Incidentally, a thank you to Purser. At Purser Trust, that's a follower of mine on X, and she wrote, let's rally together to help At Gallagher Show reach 75,000 followers. He's been at a standstill of 73,000 for the last month. Achieving this milestone will not only lift a superstition, but also bring victory to Wisconsin. Purser, now you're going to get me in trouble. I'm kind of playing around with my superstitions here. Plus, he'll follow back everyone he can. Let's make it happen. Following. Thank you, Purser. Look at that. It's pretty quick. That didn't take long. Got a few hundred. We're up to, let's see, 74,000 and I think 300. So maybe we'll get over 75,000. Maybe we can celebrate in Alaska with the big summer vacation we've got planned for you in August. The Patriots Alaska cruise. The second annual. Larry Elder and I will be your hosts. We'll be on a luxury cruise ship surrounded by breathtaking glaciers and majestic mountains and fjords. We'll be watching bald eagles and whale watching and sightseeing. Joe Piscopo, Jennifer Horn going to join us on the ship. August 16th through the 23rd, The Last Frontier. And then on board, not only will you enjoy beautiful restaurants and there's a spa and there's a casino. It's a great ship. It's the Eurodam. I love this ship from Holland, America. But we're also going to just gather every night on the world stage. We'll have town hall events. It's a great vacation, great way to spend a summer vacation. Text the keyword TRAVEL to 94878 to book your state room. The state rooms are going fast. Cabins are flying off the shelves. We've got hundreds of you joining us. Space is limited, so don't delay. Way more than just a cruise. You'll have the adventure of your life. Text TRAVEL to 94878. That's TRAVEL to 94878. And some people have asked for a phone number. If you want to call Inspiration Tours, directly talk to a live person, here's the number. 855-565-5519. 855-565-5519. Come join us this August for the second annual Patriots Alaska Cruise. You're going to have the time of your life. Here's Ben Shapiro talking about this trip. trend we're seeing all over the world, the weaponization of the courts. We witnessed it in America. I believe it backfired in a spectacular way. I'm going to believe, look, I have two deeply held beliefs. Trump lost 2020 because of COVID. Trump won 2024 because of the way they weaponized the court system. They did everything they could to try to prevent him from running by locking him up. by trying to incarcerate him, and the American people said, nope, that's a bridge too far. Well, listen to Ben Shapiro's analysis of what's happening all over the world.
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You know, when President Trump said a long time ago that the deep state was actively intervening in American politics in order to thwart a particular agenda, it turns out that he was right about that, but he was also right globally. It turns out that there is, in fact, an elitist deep state everywhere, from the European Union to Brazil to Israel to... Romania that is interested in overturning even the possibility of the will of the people in order to stop the bad guys from possibly winning. And the bad guys range again from Bibi Netanyahu in Israel, who again has been targeted by the legal establishment, to Bolsonaro in Brazil. Remember that in Brazil, Lula da Silva was actually in jail and he was freed by the judiciary so he could run again. And then they moved to jail, Bolsonaro. You're seeing the same thing happen now with Marine Le Pen. who is set to win this current election in France, the party that she leads, was set to actually win the next election. And I think the giveaway is this. The jail sentence that you mentioned before, that is a suspended jail sentence. They're suspending that until the appeals can go through. You know it's not suspended or banned from running, which demonstrates exactly what they were after.
SPEAKER 06 :
They're open about it. They don't hide it. And I suspect that in Europe, they're even less willing to try to disguise what their true motivation is than what happened here in America. They're suspending her right to run, but she can't run, but they're withholding the prison sentence until she gets to appeal. Can she appeal being banned from running for office? She's the favorite. You understand in the polls? She's expected to be elected president. And every time they introduce her, and I admit, I don't know French politics. I don't want to be under a French form of government. I don't like socialism. I don't want the European style of governance in America. All I know is it's suspicious to me that every single time she's identified, it's like her name is Far-Right Marine Le Pen. Far-Right, Far-Right, Far-Right. And they never identify any whack job progressive as far left. You never hear it. It's always the same. And I just continue to wonder if the Democrats are going to get their act together. A lot of it boils down to Wisconsin. Just don't kid yourself. There's the country... The future is on the line. If you don't want to mess on your head, if you don't want to wake up every day to watching Hakeem Jeffries try to lead an impeachment of Donald Trump because of a phone call he made, then you've got to vote for Brad Schimel in Wisconsin. And look... Hakeem Jeffries himself let the cat out of the bag in an interview he gave not long ago. Listen to what he said about what the real plan is to get the activist liberal judge in Wisconsin elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
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In Wisconsin, that's a 50-50 race because we know Wisconsin's a 50-50 state. Yeah. And we have a strong Democratic candidate. Whoever wins is going to determine who has the majority in the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Why is that important? Because there are gerrymandered congressional lines right now in Wisconsin. Wisconsin's a 50-50 state, as I mentioned, but there are six Republicans in And only 2 Democrats out of an 8 person delegation, because the lines are broken. Right. And. As soon as possible, we need to be able to revisit that and have fair lines. The only way for that to be. Even a significant possibility. As if you have an enlightened Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you got to get an enlightened Supreme Court. A little bit like the Chuck Schumer rule. You vote our way or the highway. You'll be enlightened if you're one of us. But if you're not, well, you'll reap the whirlwind. You won't know what hit you. If you like your car, you might get it scratched up by an Elon Musk-hating progressive. I wish I could let that thing go. I want to interview the 55-year-old business owner from Doylestown, Pennsylvania, caught red-handed, scrawling a swastika. It's a grown-ass man. Pardon my language. A grown adult carving things into a car because you're mad at Elon Musk. These people need to grow up big time.
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Sound.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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Written by Paul McCartney when it's on Sergeant Pepper. But McCartney wrote this when he was like 14, thinking about being really, really old at 64. Now with Mike, who is 64, reflections on that. And I offer this really just as an affectionate nudge. 64 ain't nothing. You'll be 64 for another six days before you hit the big 6'5". You know who's laughing at you? Trump. Everyone who's not laughing at me? Biden. I'll match you. 82-year-old for 82-year-old. You know who is? Harrison Ford. Doing the most energetic, incredible work of his life. He's old enough to be your dad. Riding horses, playing pickleball, who knows what. So I'll hear you.
SPEAKER 06 :
probably wearing diapers on the set.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't think, I bet not. I'll hear nothing of you young whippersnappers at 65.
SPEAKER 06 :
Can we put a moratorium on this talk? I want to skip it. I talked to my boss this morning. We were talking about how 65 just all of a sudden, it's like, how did this get here? And Phil said, Phil and Diana, his wonderful wife, they were just talking about this the other day. Isn't it crazy, the older you get, how much faster time passes by? Yes. Think about it, Mark. We're in April. It's April 1st. It feels like yesterday it was the election.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, blink of an eye, but it didn't used to feel this way.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, this is weird. It may be math when because I'm 67 and here we are in our mid 60s. Every year is a smaller percentage of the life we have led. When you're 10, another year is like another 10% of what you've lived. When you're 60-something, another year is but a tiny sliver. So once you've got all that behind you, everything that's before you, seems to be a smaller fraction. That may be a clumsy explanation.
SPEAKER 06 :
I choose to ignore next week. I'll be off. I'm going to just try to disconnect. I'm going to go enjoy and pretend I'm 49. We'll be thinking about you. Hey, big day today, a huge day in Wisconsin, a huge day in Florida. The stakes are so high. Wisconsin voters are heading to the polls. Look, the truth is, if we lose the Wisconsin Supreme Court, Wisconsin is going to redistrict immediately. They made it clear. Hakeem Jeffries admitted it. And Akeem Jeffries said, you know, here's the key. We've got to get this progressive, Susan Crawford, this former Obama official, and we've got to get her elected. And then they're going to gerrymander, they're going to redistrict, and we're going to lose a couple of seats in the House of Representatives. Same is true for Wisconsin. I mean, for Florida. We've got that Central Florida, that District 6, that race is so tight.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's the Mike Waltz vacancy, and the other one is the Matt Gaetz vacancy. But you know what? I'm confident of Republican victories in both of those.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don't say that. Don't say it. I am. I am. Don't say it. Don't say it. I mean, that's the problem. I mean, you know, I think we sort of go the conventional route, and Trump's not at the top of the ticket right now to take people over.
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I understand.
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And it's a whole different ballgame. And people, these people on the left are loud. They're aggressive. They're rattling cages. And it's the Democrats.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they got money. They have poured, especially into that first district race where the Matt Gaetz vacancy. A Democrat has outspent the Republican there like three to one. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
I was talking to a family friend yesterday. They have a loved one in their family who's mad at everybody who's a Trump supporter, and it's causing a rift in the family. It's causing a rift with friendships. And the person I talked to is not really a Trump fan per se, doesn't really like his personality. However, he knows that the alternative was unthinkable. And he said, this is policy, policy, policy. And he said something that captures the Trump era. It's all common sense stuff. None of this stuff is radical. None of this stuff is crazy extremism. It's common sense. When you think about looking through the lens of commonsense-dom on everything Trump's doing, it's so true. I mean, it's not, look, we're doing Social Security the way we did it in the 1950s. We're sending checks to dead people. And Trump wants to make the Social Security Administration function like an Apple store. efficient you know online if you've got a grandma or grandpa that doesn't know how to get online well then guide them lovingly and show them how to do it instead of sending checks to 137 year old dead people I mean it's just common sense and I mean look at Pete Hegseth yesterday they're all mad at him now because he wants to have combat standards be the same for men and women look if you're a woman and you want to serve in combat knock yourself out you just got to meet the same rigorous standards as a man isn't that common sense of course it is i mean we go down the list of everything on and on and on so today's a huge day tomorrow's a big day uh the tariffs and i we haven't spent enough time on this mark i was talking to a financial guy yesterday and he said look Because I've got some real estate stuff going on right now, and I'm a little nervous about it, and it's not moving like I thought. And Florida real estate's a little unusual. And he said, look, let's get through Wednesday because there's a lot of uncertainty because of this whole tariffs thing that's sort of looming over our heads. The Wall Street Journal is... is wagering that Trump is just doing some gamemanship, that this is the art of the deal. The Trump tariffs aren't going to be quite as promised because it's part of his negotiation. But whatever happens tomorrow, there will then be a conclusion and the markets will settle in and then things will start happening. Real estate is going to start bouncing back. People will feel a little more confident about spending their money and making purchases. So really, Mark, this is a huge, huge week. Today and tomorrow, two big days. And it's long-term.
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And everything you described, and the markets, I think, even this week, the markets may convulse in there. You know, your 401K may take a little bit of a hit in the coming days. That's because if there's anything the markets don't like to make them nervous, it's unpredictability, real change. The markets, our country, our society has been so used forever, so used to socializing. slow, glacier pace. Nothing ever really happens. Now along comes Trump with his fire hose of developments and Musk with his fast-paced way of doing things. It's exactly what we need. Long term, it's going to work out just fine. Have some faith. It's going to create American jobs. It's going to reinvigorate American manufacturing. And these are for good reasons. But it's so rare to have anybody in politics say, look, Rather than just curry favor right now, today, in this news cycle, I'm going to do something that might look a little weird and a little squirrely, might make you a little nervous right now. But trust me, long term, it's going to be good. And I have that trust. It is going to be good.
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Caroline Leavitt yesterday outside the White House did a beautiful job of detailing why Trump wants these trade practices to even out. The trade practices that we're currently under are hurting American businesses. 50% tariff from the EU on American dairy. 700% tariff from Japan on rice. 100% tariff from India on agricultural products. And Trump's position is it's impossible for American products to be imported into these markets. It's time for reciprocity. And that's all it is. You talk to these smart people, you hear from the Larry Kudlows and all these people who know this, the Canadian guy, what's his name, Kevin O'Leary. These are smart people, a lot of common sense, a lot of wisdom. Speaking of a lack of common sense, though, tell me you saw the clip of the guy caught. carving a swastika onto a guy's Tesla.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, I did.
SPEAKER 06 :
Can we play it? Can we all share it together? Do you mind?
SPEAKER 07 :
Sure, got a minute?
SPEAKER 06 :
I do. I think Christian's got it. It's delicious because this is a grown-ass man. Pardon my French. This is an adult. You talk about 65, 75. This guy looks like he's 45, 50. This is not a kid. So this dummy is defacing a guy's car and because he owns a Tesla, and heaven forbid you have a Tesla because then you're a Nazi. Now, check this out. He gets caught. Listen to how the guy acts after he got caught carving a swastika or painting a swastika onto the side of the guy's Tesla. This is rich.
SPEAKER 12 :
Free service.
SPEAKER 11 :
How about you pay for the repairs? Write a check. You just bought a Tesla.
SPEAKER 12 :
I can wipe it off with a towel.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, no. It's not a key. It is a hate crime, sir. It was a crayon. It is a hate crime. Did you write a swastika on there?
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm sorry you're upset.
SPEAKER 11 :
Did you write a swastika?
SPEAKER 12 :
It didn't even work. Apparently it doesn't work.
SPEAKER 11 :
Did you write a swastika on the... It's a key, sir. We see it on the video.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's not a key.
SPEAKER 11 :
Is it a swastika?
SPEAKER 12 :
I was probably putting my keys in my pocket. Is it a swastika? Have you looked at your car?
SPEAKER 11 :
Is there a key mark? Is it a swastika? That's impossible. It's at the police right now. It's being fingerprinted.
SPEAKER 12 :
What do you mean it's being fingerprinted?
SPEAKER 11 :
Because they were trying to track you down. Thankfully, Facebook tracked you down. So your business, your freaking livelihood, everything now. Because you chose to tell Facebook that you're sorry for writing a swastika on a Tesla.
SPEAKER 12 :
I said, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 11 :
For what? And I apologize. For what?
SPEAKER 12 :
I have nothing against your car, and I have nothing against you.
SPEAKER 11 :
So why would you write a swastika on a Tesla?
SPEAKER 12 :
Obviously, I have something against Elon Musk, but that's not the way to show my... So Elon Musk owns that car?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, he owns the company. It was bought and paid for a long time ago.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's why it's misguided, and obviously, I did not intend to do this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well... His hand slipped. He didn't intend to do it. Now, Mark, people know the guy in the community. I'm sure he's got a job. He's got a family. Mark, let me put you on the spot. You work with people all day long. You've spent decades working with good people. That guy worked for you. Yeah. How would that affect your relationship with him? I mean, what an imbecile.
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Now that he is famous in the community and instantly recognizable as a political bigot idiot. It depends on what he does for me and what the nature of my business is. Because I'm a big believer in redemption. It sounds like the shock of being discovered and caught brought him around to some clarity. I shouldn't have been doing it in exactly this fashion.
SPEAKER 06 :
I have nothing against your car. Oh, nice.
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I know. He's a complete moron. If he can continue to do the job, if the strong letter in the file and a scolding from me don't do that anymore, go forth and sin no more. I'm a big believer in second chances. Here's the asterisk. However, if he is visible, if he's like out in the community as a sales guy and he's going to go out and try to sell widgets for my, you know, Mark Davis widget company is like, hey, you're the big dummy to put the swastika on the Tesla. He's gone.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, well, you have to wonder how would he treat somebody that he comes in contact with whose political views don't align with his.
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And there's a big difference between people who are sorry and people who are sorry they got caught.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, come on. He was sorry he got caught. But here's the thing. This perfectly encapsulates their side right now. They are flailing. They don't know what to do. They think maybe if I carve up a swastika on a car, that'll make me feel better.
SPEAKER 07 :
And see these clowns... clubbing the living daylights out of toy Teslas on a curb. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 06 :
That big fat guy on a scooter crashing his scooter into a Tesla. I mean, like a nutcase. Lucky he didn't break his neck. I mean, well, that's what they get. But this is what we're up against, Mark. And let's face it. I like our chances.
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I like our chances. And I like our chances in Florida. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it again. That doesn't mean you should rest on your laurels in Florida. Get out and vote. Get out and vote. Do it. Do it. Do it.
SPEAKER 06 :
You can't sit on the sidelines. Do not listen to Mark Davis. Ignore Mark Davis. Ignore his comfortableness. You're behind by 10. You're behind by 10. Well, what about Wisconsin? Hey, Swami, what do you think is going to happen there?
SPEAKER 07 :
I have no idea about Wisconsin. My fingers are crossed so tight my hands are purple.
SPEAKER 06 :
The extreme is progressive is up like five or six points in the polls. So come on, Wisconsin. Let's go. You got to do your part. You got to work. You got to get off the sidelines. All right. Let's happy. Any April Fool's Day tricks planned? None whatsoever. I'm anti-prank. I mean, too. I don't know. I like a good prank, but I'm a little leery about today, especially especially in the time we're living in. I mean, a good prank may put me over the end.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is this bluster? He's just not ready.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I got a call from the birth certificate place saying, no, you're really only 59. I like that. Yes, I'll take that prank.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now that's a prank we can line up behind.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm on board. All right, I love you. Take care.
SPEAKER 07 :
Forever young, Mike Gallagher. Ready to go. 10 o'clock, soon as we're done on 660 AM, The Answer.
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while appealing whichever ones they want to appeal and to demand the return of people unlawfully taken to El Salvador on that so-called plane full of gangbangers.
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And I especially... That is going to be my hip-hop album name. I don't know if you guys knew that. Plane full of gangbangers. I'm all about it. That's going to be my hot new album. And I'm going to go on a summer concert series and we're going to do it. I don't know what the heck is happening, but that's I heard whenever Jamie Raskin says anything, I immediately want to make fun of it because he's so worried in this audio soundbite about the quote unquote illegal alien gang members taken to El Salvador. That is so mean for those. It's so bad for those poor little gangbangers. Bless their little baby infant hearts. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Let me use my dog voice. Oh, my goodness. What's the matter? Hopefully Wick is not listening somewhere out there because I just realized it's actually probably a very bad idea. He's he's kind of being a teen home alone right now. Sort of. He's yeah, he's. He's going to be testing his limits today. All right. So that's Jamie Raskin, who is trying to intercede on behalf of the precious, innocent, just as pure as the driven snow, baby infant, little gangbangers. Yeah. So yeah. You guys agree with him?
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Why do Democrats want them back?
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Well, because who is, according to them, if you listen to, oh, got that guy who looks like a mini Pritzker. Nadler, Jerry Nadler. Sidebar. I'm in a weird mood. First off, welcome. Let's do salutations and greetings, everyone. Thank you for going on this wild journey. goat rodeo with me uh number two uh the chats at rumble channel 347 direct tv all that good stuff uh number three Remember, if you see J.D. Pritzker and you see Jerry Nadler, it's like Jerry Nadler, it's like J.D. Pritzker, it's going to sound mean to some of you, I really don't care, broke off a fat roll from his neck and it sprouted arms and legs and became sentient and was elected to Congress and called itself Jerry Nadler. That's so descriptive. Yeah. All right. So that is yeah, that's that's that's right now where they are. The latest, the latest. We've got a lot of stuff to discuss today because we got that Supreme Court election in Wisconsin and there's a lot of concern about turnout. And we also have some other special elections that we're watching. And just a little I want to need to be a little worried about this. Some of the turnout, because I think some people think that if Trump's not on the ballot, then they don't need to turn out. I don't want to be mean, but that's wrong. And also, then I guess you don't want his agenda implemented. Because if you don't show up for special elections and for midterms, how is that any better than what Democrats do? I mean, you're not helping the implement the agenda. You're not helping get good Republicans elected. So whose side are you on? Dana, it's too early in the week to be that mean. No, it's not. It really isn't. So this latest, this crazy story, and we're going to get to all of this stuff. Let me start with this guy who was, pull this article up. This was at the Atlantic. They have been apoplectic. Pretty much all 24 hours. Well, for the last several days, along with the rest of the media. The reason why is because they said, oh, my gosh, it's so horrible. They're just dragging people off the streets, throwing them on the airplanes. They're deporting them. They're just those poor baby gang members. So sad. Did you see other? I mean, El Salvador doesn't play. El Salvador is like they have an intrigue. crafted for every gang member it's pretty wild to watch it it's actually very very fun the it's what happens when you're with trended or agua or ms13 atlantic headline an administrative error sends a maryland father to a salvadoran prison now let's just go off the headline let's not dive into the in the meat and potatoes yet The subhead says the Trump administration says it mistakenly deported an immigrant with protected status, but that the courts are powerless to order his return cane. This poor baby dad, this baby infant father dad. He's he was taken. He's got protected legal status, guys. Protect illegal status. Wait, let's not dive into what that means yet, because there's a little bit of an asterisk on that phrase. Little bit. Now, when you say, first off, the dude, he's just an innocent baby dad, right? He's just, you know, Kilmar Garcia. He was accidentally deported. They said you can't touch him. Remember, they put a gun-free zone sign on him, the equivalent of that. They put the gun-free zone equivalent for immigration, protected legal status, right? Now you're like, well, protected legal status, Dana, that sounds official. It does, does it not? Yes, it does. It sounds like there's probably some paperwork with letterhead involved. I'm saying. There's a little bit of a they the way that they are portraying this to average everyday Americans. They want you to be terrified and think that you're going to next get picked off the street. And that's not accurate because this guy, whatever protected legal status means, doesn't mean what you think it means. So the digging on this guy. And looking up his history and how is it that someone with protected legal status, all the capital libertarians are screeching and crying. And here's the problem with this. He actually wasn't legal status. He just got permission from the Biden administration to stay. Biden let every Tom, Dick and Harry stay. Every Tom, Dick and Trenoragua stay. He let everybody stay. And so this is... because this guy he was literally actually with ms-13 he this kilmar garcia now remember they said he was granted legal protection for from removal in 2019 and mistakenly deported he had no criminal conviction no criminal conviction guys do you know why he didn't have a criminal conviction Well, because he was a damn gang member and the country was like, get out. We're not going to go through the Victorian freak show of having a theatrical trial for you. You're not a legal citizen. You came here illegally. You were running around with MS-13. You were granted somehow by the cheese whiz brained president of the last administration. You got protected status somehow. And now you got to go. Yeah, they didn't. Nobody in the press is telling you this. And then the left's big thing is, well, he wasn't convicted with MS-13. No, he was literally caught running with them. I'm not quite sure what people don't understand here. And then he went to ICE. He was in detention with ICE. And they're like, well, he's been out for the last five years. He married a U.S. citizen. He still has no criminal record except for the fact that he entered illegally and he was running around with MS-13. By the way, there are court documents on this. And that's what's so funny that the left totally doesn't realize. Oh, my gosh. There are actual like, you know, I mean, there's there's there's work. I'm looking at one of the the charging docs. And it said during the course of his proceedings, when he was in ICE custody, there was an immigration judge that denied his bond at a hearing on April 24th, 2019. Why did this judge deny Mr. Infant Dad Baby Garcia bond? Bond at a hearing on April 24th, 2019. You dare may ask. Well, I will tell you it's because he was cited as a quote unquote danger to the community because the evidence showed he's a verified member of MS-13. Oh, oh, but there's more with the purchase of one slap chop. You get another one. This one. They also determined that he was a flight risk. That is a direct. I'm reading from the charging docs. You can't see the giant four and a half foot screen in front of my face. So that is why, and not only that, but a board of immigration appeals upheld this decision. They also concurred. This dude is super dangerous. He is a verified card-carrying, members-only jacket member of MS-13. In another set, he was described as having a quote-unquote prominent role in MS-13. Oh, look at that. Now, the operation that led to his removal to El Salvador was designed to include only individuals that had no impediments to removal. So see, when they grouped up people to send them back to their place of origin, they made sure that there was no impediments and they could just be sent right back. And in the case of this person, there was no impediment and he got to go. He got a free flight home. Look at that. Most of you have to pay for your flights. This guy got a free flight home. And so the whole process, ICE was aware of the grant of withholding at the time. And he was not on the initial manifest to be removed. He was an alternate. Others were removed from the flight for various reasons. He was moved up to the list and assigned to the flight. And they said it was an administrative error. Removal carried out in good faith, literally based on his verified membership in MS-13, on the existence of a final order of removal. The guy was in MS-13. Oh, it was a paperwork error. This gang member gets to stay here. What does he do? Run Hunter Drugs? I mean, you're a verified member of MS-13 and President McChee's brain. Daddy Showers gets to go, oh, well, no, he gets to stay here. He's a precious little baby gang member. No, he needed to go back. That's what happens. When you F-A, you F-O. And there are consequences to bad decisions. It doesn't mean there isn't a path to redemption, but it also doesn't mean that redemption cancels out any kind of justice. Mercy and justice can coexist, don't you realize, as can grace. So I just completely trash can all of those arguments. He wasn't an innocent father. He was literally a member of MS-13. But the media thinks you're stupid. They have zero respect for you. They think you are the dumb, unwashed masses and that they can manipulate your emotions by withholding information about actual violent gang members who entered the country illegally. This has been a top trending story for the past 48 hours. And if you watch CNN or any of the alphabet legacy press, not a single one of them. have any kind of ethical awareness or journalistic duty to actually bring you the full scope of this guy's story. So no, Trump didn't just pull some innocent dad out at t-ball practice off the street and then send him to El Salvador. The guy had been listed as being a deported, up for deportation for quite some time. And he had a verified membership in MS-13. I mean, they literally caught him running around, you know, doing shenanigans. So I don't know what they think that they're trying to pull here. But this is exactly what we're talking about. And then it gets all the capital L libertarians upset. Oh, my gosh. Trump is just pulling people out right and left. But he's not, though. I mean, if he was, I would be. I mean, I think I've, you know, made no bones about it. I call balls and strikes. That's not what is happening here. 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A carjacker found out the wrong way when he tried to carjack a citizen who was lawfully armed and protected themselves. A man was shot and killed Sunday night in an act of self-defense because he tried one of several armed assaults in the area. The Hardyville Police Department got word of an armed suspect who was trying to carjack a DoorDash driver, and then he tried to run away on foot. They responded to the call. They heard gunshots. The guy, he tried another carjacking. He pointed his gun at the driver of the car, fired at least once. The driver fired shots in return, and the carjacker was struck. The driver was initially detained. That's standard operating procedure. But, of course, they determined it was self-defense, and so they released him. Of course they did, because it's self-defense. You just don't carjack people, and you won't get shot. There's a consequence. They're trying to still panic. Goldman Sachs lifts U.S. recession probability to 35%. We're in it now, though. I don't know why we're talking about lifting anything. The expectation. We're in it now. YouTube is about to eclipse Disney as the biggest media company in the world. That's really sad because YouTube is horrific when it comes to broadcasting anything. They hate us. They've demonetized us multiple times. They have outright deleted videos of mine that they don't like. It's heinous. So I can't. I mean, that just is the state of everything that that is the biggest media company. That's kind of unfortunate, but they're overtaking Disney. I don't really care about this at all. I don't. I've never watched the show. Kelly Clarkson is going to take over from Hoda Cobb on the Today Show. Nobody cares. Nobody watches. Nobody actually watches this. What is it? One of the Bush daughters and Hoda. And now they're having Kelly Clarkson on. I thought she had her own show. I don't know. Maybe it's just not. Does it mean I just don't care? I do not watch daytime talk. At all. I could not. Even if I just couldn't do it. I'd have to put on horror films all day. There's no way I couldn't do it. Listen to this. This is wild. A water shortage is threatening the world's most abundant lithium reserves. What? This is the lithium triangle and mineral rich region in the Andean Plateau. It stretches across Argentina and Bolivia and Chile and it's about half of actually more than half of all global lithium reserves. They're saying that they don't have enough fresh water to extract it. Because it's a dirty, arduous process. Stick with us. We've got more in store. The folks who help bring you the program, it is our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is out there. You can keep your number, keep your phone. You can upgrade. It's entirely up to you. Patriot Mobile makes it to where your money goes. doesn't work against you you can switch today you don't sacrifice quality you don't sacrifice service and every dollar you spend either supports your value i mean it supports your values you don't want your money working against you and in this economy where you spend your money matters it's one of the ways that you resume control take back the country visit patreon mobile.com slash dana or call 972 patriot you can get a free month of service using promo code dana They have exceptional nationwide coverage, access to all three major U.S. networks, unlike the big budget providers. They also have an exclusive feature where you can get two numbers on two networks on one phone. Big carriers cannot do this. They also have flexible, unlimited data plans designed to fit your lifestyle and seamless switching. So support what you believe in, because it's not just about getting better coverage when you switch to Patriot Mobile. It's about working with businesses that think like you, create and maintain U.S. jobs, and support causes that matter to you. Visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT for that free month of service using promo code Dana. Defend freedom every time you call or text. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana 972-PATRIOT promo code Dana for your free month of service.
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friend, you are somebody that is a hero who folks don't know their name in the countries that you've affected with your strength on foreign policy. Dear God, my friend, I yield the floor for a question while retaining the floor. Excuse me, I'm going to say that correctly. I yield for a question while retaining the floor. I do not yield the floor.
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I ask my friend and colleague from New Jersey if he is familiar with Psalm 30, verse 5. Oh, Lord.
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Wow. You hear that giant sniff? I'm not saying that he probably had like a line of booger sugar right there on the podium, but I'm saying that he may have. That's Cory Booker, who is tweaked out to the nth degree. I mean, I have seen actual tweakers on cops look less awake than him. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. Cory Booker, who is bright eyed and high, is I'm not saying he's high, but I am. He's on the floor of the Senate and he's filibustering.
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Those eyes, though.
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Dem eyes, though. You want to hear a funny story that's about that is that I will bring back to Cory Booker's eyes. All right. So picture it. It was like seven-year-old Dana, right? And my grandma, just keep watching his eyes because this is terrifying. If I saw that, by the way, in my bedroom at night, like the devil eyes coming at me like that, those are crazy eyes. What is up with the move of people who just think if they open their eyes more, it makes them more intimidating? It doesn't. You just look nuts. So when I was about seven years old, my grandma got me this cheap baby doll, right? Just like as a nice thing. She's at the dollar store, you know, it was probably made in China, you know, back before, you know, we really did not like them. Although we were, we were with them anyway. So she got me this baby doll and it was one of those where you laid it back and its eyes closed and you pulled it up and it opened. Well, this doll was psycho and its eyes just got like stuck open. And there was no way it was just a default. It was because of her, the plastic flesh of her eye cavity just hung over and it just wasn't, you know, there's a lot of, we would have had to do an upper eye lift and all this on this doll. And I just was at seven years old. I just was not technically. able and equipped to do it. So I just had to deal with it. And my grandma was like, well, you can pretend her eyes are closed. You can't tell a kid that and pretend my doll's eyes are closed. They're wide open. She looks like a damn demon. It's weird. So anyway, had this doll, couldn't get her eyes closed. So I sat in the corner of my room and I woke up in the middle of the night one night. And I remember looking across my room and it was fairly dark. There's a street light outside that still filtered through the blinds, you know, so there was a little bit of like diffused light. And the way that the light, the diffused light was coming through those slats on my plastic blinds just hit that doll's face and illuminated those eyes in a way that was more than unnerving. Dare I say it was terrifying. And it was like the eyes were illuminated from within, right? This crazy doll. And I, you know, like any normal seven-year-old had normal seven-year-old thoughts. I'm looking at this and I'm like, this doll is possessed. This doll is going to cut my throat open while I sleep. Oh my gosh. So I didn't want to go to sleep. I wanted to watch that doll. And it was creepy. I ended up like trying to hide it out of my room. My grandma would, you know, she was babysitting me. She would put it back in my room. But I hadn't really thought of that story until I watched Cory Booker on the floor with his co-guys. And he's filibustering. And is he trying to look angry? You know, when people do that, they're like, I'm going to open my eyes real big at you in an attempt to be intimidating. And the rest of us are just like, no, you're not intimidating. You are crazy, though, but you're not intimidating. It's the same thing. I just got that whole vibe. So he's filibustering. They're mad over Trump's policies, essentially, right? They're mad over Trump's policies. I love the, I yield the floor while retaining the floor. He's a meme. Oh, man. I'm going to use these pictures forever. I want to apologize to all the subscribers to the newsletter over at Substack Chapter and Verse because I just found a bunch of pictures that you're going to see a lot of for all of my headlines from here on out. I'm really sorry about that, but it's worth it for me. All right. So he's on the floor. He's carrying this out on the floor. And he does look nuts. And they're trying to... I think that they are trying to figure out – well, I think some in the party are trying to figure out, wow, everyone hates us. What can we do? Nobody likes us. What are we going to do? We've got to figure something out. And I think that they believe that these stunts somehow endear them to the American voter or even to their base. Their base wants them to get angry, but they don't specifically state about what – or what to do with said anger. They don't actually say it. I mean, man, cocaine is a hell of a drug. Good night. Good night. So he's been, I think he's trying to get B-roll footage. Have you seen the pictures of him? I mean, they're amazing. They're one of my favorite. Here, I got to share this with you in Slack because we can use these photos forever. So what's the point of a filibuster? What exactly do they think that they're going to accomplish here? He's on, is it hour 14?
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I think it's 17 now.
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Spartacus is still at it. Has he said anything about the Democrat-fueled targeting of Tesla consumers?
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Oh, no. No Democrat has, actually. Mm-hmm.
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13 hours, he runs his mouth, and he hasn't said anything about at all Tesla?
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No.
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No. 13 hours. Has he had this energy for the whole 13 hours? That's a good question. I mean, he's going to OD if he keeps it up. That's why I'm asking for his. I don't know.
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You get bathroom breaks, right?
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No.
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You don't get any? So he's got to wear what depends?
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I think you can tag team it.
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Oh, okay. So.
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I think he can do tag team. I mean, not to my knowledge. I don't think that you can. But yeah, he's for 13 hours. For what? We need more government money. Look at him. He's mad. If you're watching the simulcast, you're looking at a photo of a man mad that the government doesn't take care of him enough. That his sugar daddy government, oh my gosh, they're just so great. Get out, he says in this image. Get out if you don't like more government. If you don't like more government, you can exit now. Does he look intimidating to you?
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No, he never has. But imagine being on the side of not wanting waste, fraud and abuse to be removed. Imagine being on that side of the argument.
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Yeah, I don't. I mean, if it's about saving money, all these people. I heard a soundbite from Elizabeth Warren this morning. who I think it was, I don't think it was from yesterday, but it was a soundbite where she said that, you know, Elon Musk, he's going to get his hands on your, she swear to you, hands to sky. She said, Elon Musk is going to take your social security and they're going to spend it on tax breaks for billionaires. I have heard this phrase over and over again. When I heard her say it, that was it. That is one of the stupidest things that I've ever heard in my life. It's, it looks, it, it, the reasoning is the reasoning of someone who only has one brain cell to their name. And they're trying real hard. It's one of the dumbest things that I've ever heard in my life. So just imagine. So you're saying that Elon Musk, who has no capability to do anything except audit what he's allowed to audit under a specific type of NDA with read-only access, he doesn't actually access any sensitive information. He can see where the government is wasting money and spending money, and he can make recommendations as to what needs to be cut from everything that he's taken in. Because he's not Congress and he can recommend it to Congress as is their right to determine whether or not they want to cut it since they're the power of the purse. And then they want to use the savings to maybe pay off our debt. But Elizabeth Warren is insistent that it's going to go to tax breaks for billionaires who, frankly, I think everybody needs a big fat tax break. I think we need a big fat abolishing the IRS. But we have a bunch of people who are absolute pansies. in all levels of government. And that's never going to happen because they're more worried about them staying in office than they are you paying lower taxes or none at all because it's unconstitutional. They care more about their seats than they do the Constitution. If you're not voting to abolish the IRS, that's an unfortunate stat. That's a fact of your life. So this talking point, these talking points that I keep hearing, oh my gosh, Elon Musk is going to take all our money. He's going to take all... First off, tax cuts don't cost. You're not paying for them. In order to allow people to keep more of their own money, you're not paying them. You have to spend less. Less. Meaning we're not going to be spending stuff on trans propaganda in Africa. Nothing like that. It's just... Wild that these are the talking points get dumber with each passing year. Like we were talking about the guy who got deported from Maryland, the innocent Maryland dad who is literally a member of MS-13. And that's why he got deported. And now all the capital libertarians are freaking out. Oh, my gosh. Trump is just pulling people off the street. Now, I call balls and strikes. The Atlantic was leading, leading the hysteria this morning, leading it. If that were the case, I would be one of the people criticizing it. But that's not what's happening. That's not what's happening. It's just so disingenuous. So disingenuous. And they, I mean, look, they said, well, he's not convicted of being a mis13. Why are we going to waste taxpayer dollars on court proceedings for someone who's not in the country illegally? A gang member who's not in the country illegally just to prove that he's a gang member so progressives won't protest him getting deported. I mean, I was explaining this to one of my kids over spring break. This idea that the whole, whether it was the Flores Agreement and the grace period for deportations for kids who were brought over unwillingly by their parents, like little kids. I question your innocence when you've been in the country for decades and you can file paperwork to go to college and get scholarships and for jobs and all of this other stuff, but you just can't seem to get yourself You know, especially when Flores was in effect and you had any kind of deportation. I mean, you were excluded from that under the Flores Agreement. So why were people not taking advantage of that and going through and becoming starting the process in order to protect themselves when they were excluded from deportation as a result of that? It doesn't make any sense. So I don't have a lot of sympathy there. I don't have a lot of sympathy. Audio 7x7, this is another representative who's very upset. You can't fire people. You can't fire people if you're trying to find efficiencies. What? Listen.
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Well, I would say that it's important that we go in with a scalpel and not a chainsaw, right? I would say that you don't fire the workforce if you're trying to find efficiencies. These are the folks who know where the efficiencies can be made.
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Yeah, it's them. They need to go. That's why. Oh, it's them. The calls coming from inside the house, ma'am. It's them. They got to go. And yes, you do need a chainsaw. Why is that a talking point? Is it because Malaya gave Elon Musk a chainsaw? You need a chainsaw. Oh, we need to just be very specific? No, we're past that. I don't think people realize how dire the circumstances are. They don't realize how unbelievably dire the circumstances are, how fragile everything is economically at this point, how much debt we have. The time for surgical cuts was like 30 years ago. 40 years ago. Now it's chainsaw time. And I think anyone who disagrees with it, respectfully, I think that you really underestimate the severity of the situation that we are in right now. Oh, and Lorraine notes, yes, he cannot leave the floor. It reminds me that in 2022, Cory Booker, remember, he was one of the senators that changed the rules of the filibuster. Dude, he's got to do all of his dinks and do's right there on the floor. Dude, he does. Just saying. He can road trip it with a water bottle under the podium.
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I am a 58 year old adult human female. I am formally making my proclamation exclamation right now to you. I will no longer be associating with any white Males of any kind. It does not matter if liberal or conservative. It does not matter what color hair or eyes. As long as the skin is white and it is a male, I will not be associating with it anymore.
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There's no way that this is real. There is no way. It's too easy, dude.
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The fact that we're questioning it, though, should say something.
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I don't think that she needs to make a proclamation that she's not interested in any dudes anymore because I feel like I can speak for you dudes. None of y'all are interested in her. So it's not like you're going to be consoling yourself over that loss of association. I don't think so. Also, pro tip, if you take that stupid, ugly hook out of your nose, you could actually breathe.
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It looked like a hose clamp.
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As someone who had her nose pierced when she was younger, and not like that. I'm not like judging you. Well, yes, I am. I'm not like judging you because you have it pierced. I'm judging you because you look stupid. It's stupid. It's so dumb. And the glasses with it. Like, pick a lane. She's trying so hard to look weird. So hard to look weird. People without any kind of mental substance overextend themselves visually because they want to look weird as a way to make up for the fact that they are absolutely, they have banana cheese brains. That's why. Banana pudding brains. That's it. That's why. Oh, well, I can't be pretty, so I guess I'll be weird. I can't be smart, so I guess I'll be weird. That's what they do. That's like their whole identity. You know Cory Booker's staffer was arrested with a gun? What? Yeah. Just last night, right as he got started. I mean, to Kane's point, do you actually expect him to show up to that cocaine deal without a gun?
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I mean... Yeah, he did say it.
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can get classified by simply having certain symbols in your tattoos and wearing certain streetwear brands. That alone is enough to get someone classified as TDA and sent to El Salvador.
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because she's talking about this MS-13 gang member. You know what I just realized as he's questioning her and the reporter is accusing her of targeting these poor little baby gang members, Kane, because based on their tattoos. Did the press, did they or did they not freak out over tattoos for people that they would see at protests? And didn't they think, did the press, did they or did they not, freak out and think that the Iron Cross was a Nazi symbol? That is correct. Did they or did they not freak out and say that the SecDef Hegseth was basically a Nazi because of his Christian tattoos that had nothing to do with it?
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Magazine, newspaper articles, all about it.
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So why now, all of a sudden, they don't want people to, what? Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead. This is the, because it's worth hearing. Go ahead.
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And wearing certain streetwear brands, that alone is enough to get someone classified as TDA and sent to El Salvador.
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That's not true, actually, Andrew.
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According to this document, it is.
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No, according to the Department of Homeland Security and the agents, have you talked to the agents who have been putting their lives on the line to detain these foreign terrorists who have been terrorizing our communities? TDA is a vicious gang that has taken the lives of American women and our agents on the front lines take up deporting these people with the utmost seriousness and there is a litany of criteria that they use to ensure that these individuals qualify as foreign terrorists and to ensure to ensure that they qualify for deportation. And the president made it incredibly clear to the American public that there would be a mass deportation campaign of not just foreign terrorists, but also illegal criminal aliens who have been wreaking havoc on American communities. And shame on you and shame on the mainstream media for trying to cover for these individuals who have... This is a vicious gang, Andrew. This is a vicious gang that has taken the lives of American women.
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Yes, they are covering for them.
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And you said yourself there are eight criteria on that document. And you are questioning the credibility of these agents who are putting their life on the line to protect your life and the life of everybody in this group and everybody across the country.
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And their credibility should be questioned. And the reporter's wrong in here. I mean, by nature of asking a question and you're... You're excluding the very important context of the fact that this guy was a known MS-13 member, that he entered the country illegally and took part in gang activity. By omitting that from the question and insisting that the frame of the question be, how could you deport this innocent dad? That is covering for them. It's covering for the criminality. Absolutely. And it is done so with the purpose of chilling any kind of question about any association of anyone here illegally. Welcome back to the program. Top of this second hour. Dana Lash with you. That's one of the big stories. We talked about this last hour about the dad that was this. Oh, he's just this Maryland dad. Maryland dad. And he just was deported. So mean. Well, all of the newspaper articles that have been written, the pieces over at the Atlantic, everything, they didn't actually include the fact that the guy, according to documents, court docs, was an MS-13 member. And the press says, well, he wasn't convicted. Why would we have a trial case? for someone who is not a citizen of the country and was caught in the commission of shenanigans. Just curious. Seems like a question that answers itself. I'm just saying. Audio Sunbite 15. So the White House Correspondents Dinner that I don't ever watch this. It's where the press, it's like where people come and they, the political and legacy press members, they show up and You know, it's like a prom for them. I've never wanted to go rub elbows with these people. Steve was explaining that because The Daily Show hasn't been funny in forever. This chick apparently was a writer there. I guess she was going to host it. And they asked her about it. Listen.
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Yeah, I think it's just that Burns on Trump hurt badly. And then it trickles down to everyone who is around him. Because y'all also guilty. So I think it just, they got their feelings hurt. And they want that false equivalency that the media does. They want that. It feels great. It makes them feel like human beings.
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But they shouldn't get to feel that way because they're not. Oh, wow. You seem super nice. Who's she that gets to determine who is or who is not a human?
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She's a comedian.
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She sounds like a bitch. She doesn't sound like a comedian. Sorry, am I supposed to say that? Because they did. I don't have any courtesy for people like this who are... She's described as a comedian. I've never heard of her, and there's probably a reason. But I don't think she's funny. She doesn't sound funny. She doesn't sound funny. And I guess she was mad because she wasn't... She was going to host the... White House correspondence dinner. And then now it's not. She can't. She's not hosting it anymore. So I guess she's upset. But sitting here and acting like people aren't human because their political persuasion is different. That's actually that's that's that's the inhuman thing. That is actually what fascists do. They rob you of your humanity because you disagree with them. And they have to do that to justify how heinous they really are behaving. I mean, that's the big thing. If they think that you're a human, they can't justify mistreating you. But if they are... convinced or if they convince themselves or at least convinced other people so that those people don't pass judgment on what they're doing, if they can convince others and maybe themselves that you're inhuman and that you forfeit your humanity because you voted for Trump, then that in their mind justifies their treatment of you. It's really monstrous. If you want to have a discussion about who should or shouldn't be there or who shouldn't feel like a human, that's an inhuman action. So, yeah, I would say that you're not. To deny a personhood because of someone's politics. Now you can see why people justify going in and doing things like scratching up Teslas and all of that stuff and threatening people, running them off the road for driving a Tesla. They're able to convince themselves of this because they have been able to convince you and themselves that these people aren't human. So they can treat them in mean ways because they're not human. The left has always been like that, though. Always been like that. So I guess the filibuster is still going. To your point, because you asked earlier, Cain, if he can stand on the floor. So Lorraine, so Strom Thurmond, the Civil Rights Act still remains in history to be the longest filibuster. Democrats filibustered the Civil Rights Act because nobody knows about that. It was the longest filibuster in congressional, in the record. And Strom Thurmond, he had to keep a foot on the floor, but he had a bucket. uh in the coat room and he could just keep a foot on the floor and then yeah go to the bathroom in a bucket 14 hours there's no way you know you got to be drinking water i wonder if yeah is he wearing man diapers i mean more than usual I'm just curious. I got a lot of questions about this. Got a lot of questions. Just saying. So nothing's going to get done in the Senate. Nothing's going to get done. Nothing's getting done today. And I'm sure, I think one of them brought up the deportations. The whole thing, just another quick note on that, the whole thing is that they're trying to argue that the deportation plan that POTUS has is... unjustifiable and they want it all stopped. And they're trying to use the stat as like the big excuse to not carry out deportations. He wasn't pulled off the street, you know, just walking around on the street. He's, he wasn't, he was like an actual gang member. Good heavens. But this, the whole point of propaganda is to convince you of things. The whole point of propaganda is to persuade you to make you feel either uneasy or to motivate you into supporting people. you know, what they're wanting you to support. They want you to think that an innocent man, the sweet dad, was just sent to an El Salvador prison and left to languish in there along with Trend at Aragua and MS-13 members. And that's, well, he was an MS-13 member. The way that they're telling you it happened did not happen that way. And this has been day two of the administration trying to kind of correct some of this stuff. I mean, there are people who I mean, I mean, the just, you know, the evidence that was presented to the judge at the time when he was in court. I'm going to pull this up because this is I don't even think it was an administrative error, really. This order, this was done in 2019. And when they went before an immigration judge and, you know, these immigration judges, I'm sorry, they've been incredibly lax. That was one of the things under Obama, Biden, they wanted to get a lot of lefty judges in and that's why it was important for the latter portion of Trump's first term to try to reform some of that judicially. But in 2019, they had presented enough evidence to persuade a judge to deny this guy bond and demand his removal. That was in 2019. And that is the order that was still existing when he was deported. So nothing, there was no administrative error I just kind of want to touch on that talking point before I move on there. It wasn't an administrative error. I actually disagree with that. This was the order from 2019. And these judges have been fairly, I think, left leaning. I mean, if you go back and look, a lot of these people have been allowed to stay. This guy had serious. He had a serious criminal activities happening. He was running around with MS-13. There was enough evidence presented to the judge for the judge to say that he is a danger to the public. And that's why his bond was denied and that's why it was demanded that he be deported back in 2019. Now, what they're trying to argue as it pertains to the administrative error, they're trying to say that the president, the administration, he wasn't supposed to be deported and that they made the mistake of deporting him when he wasn't supposed to be deported. And that's the error. I really don't even care. I don't care at all. He was based on evidence, was running around with MS-13, and these left-leaning judges thought, wow, that's enough to deny him bond and order his removal. And so that's what, but the thing is, he could, he was, he objected saying that he would be, he would be tortured if he was sent back to El Salvador. That's not my problem. That's not your problem. Maybe don't do stuff with gangs and you won't have these issues. Just saying. So this idea, well, it was a paper was an administrator. I'm just that's not what it was. That is not what it was. There was enough evidence there. And these people arguing, well, what do you know what the evidence? Well, do you know more than the judge does who was there in the courtroom every day and looking at this stuff? That's why we have these judges in place, right? The guy was here illegally. That should be enough for you. But if it's not, he was also running around with MS-13 to the extent that the evidence presented was overwhelming and it then justified his deportation. These people, they got to stop with us. It's just asinine. I feel like some people, some of these contrarians out there, are purposefully stupid because they feel like that's an unexplored niche in the right. Right? Oh, we're going to be members of the dumb right. Well, you can be. I just don't know how you're going to sustain an audience that way. It's our friends over at Tax Network USA. They can help you with the government theft agency. I mean, the government extortion department. Sorry, the Internal Revenue Service. And the IRS is the largest, meanest collection agency in the world. And if you did not pay what the government demanded that you pay, if you have what they call back taxes, I hate using any kind of words that justify these demands from the IRS, but there it is. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So first up, this is a crazy story. It was tragedy at a hockey game after a goaltender was killed when he was hit in the chest by a puck. It was an adult league hockey game in Florida. A 64-year-old was killed after he was hit in the chest with a puck while making a save. It was the Kraken Bears at the Community First Day Blue in Jacksonville. He felt unwell and then left the game and then collapsed in the stands. They performed CPR, but they weren't able to save him. That is horrifying and incredibly tragic. The world's fattest, well, not the world's, the fattest countries in the U.S., or sorry, cities in the U.S., the most overweight and obese cities in the U.S., according to WalletHub. They said obesity more prevalent. They looked at these, wow, some of these cities, like they said the number one was McAllen, Texas. Our sweet sister station, KRV down in McAllen.
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Sweet like diabetes.
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Oh, my gosh. The overall rank is number one. Second place, Little Rock. Third, Jackson, Mississippi. Fourth, Mobile, Alabama. Five, Knoxville, Tennessee. Shreveport, Augusta. It's all like Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi. And then you go down Oklahoma City's 12. Memphis is 11. San Antonio is 13. Dallas is 24. Go way, way down. Honolulu is like one of the healthiest. Well, it's Honolulu, though. I mean, it's to be expected. Sorry. Adults. What? Experts are saying that adults can sleep with stuffed animals, too. If you're a weirdo, yeah, go right ahead and do that. Just ignore that headline. And if you're a weirdo, sleep with a stuffed animal. That's fine. Coming up. We've got a lot more on the way later on in the hour or in the program. Florida Governor Rhonda Santos will join us. Stick with us. Burn a gun, the non-firearm firearm, and has the ability to shoot chemical irritant projectiles and disabling threats from up to 50 feet. away. And the SD, this is Berna's best-selling model. Now, I say it's a non-firearm firearm, and I also believe in diversifying your weapons array. Now, I'm always going to carry, and I have zero issue using lethal force, but there are some times because of municipal anti-constitution restrictions or you know, private property, whatever, I am barred from carrying a firearm. Well, I don't want to be made defenseless. And so again, you know, it's good to diversify. You carry blades, you carry knives, you know, you have rifles and pistols, there's no problem with having something like a Legal in all 50 states, no background checks, no permits. It doesn't care about gun-free zone signs. And it can be shipped legit right to your front door. So it's accessible for everybody. Now the SD, I have friends who've gotten this one. All my friends who've gotten the SD live in New York and D.C. And they really did need something where they could not carry their firearms because one of them works in the press, very like-minded. So it's important to make sure that you have you know, you're able to protect yourself in some way. Now, the Berna SD shoots five rounds. If you compare that to regular stun guns, they only have like one or two shots. This is five rounds. And this is the perfect time to evaluate everything that you have in your self-defense array. Visit Berna.com slash Dana. That's where you can get 10% off your purchase. B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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A climate of fear and trepidation has descended upon the nation.
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Why does he talk like this?
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The people of America are more afraid today for our democracy.
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It's like a Key and Peele skit.
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And for their personal safety than ever in our lifetimes. College students have disappeared off the streets paramilitary style by plainclothes, mask-wearing individuals, and held incognito for days before they are discovered thousands of miles away in some private for-profit ICE detention facility. Why? For exercising their free speech First Amendment rights.
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He, this is like a key and peel character. Attention teachers and students. I mean, he is, why does, I have always been fascinated. That's a Democrat representative, Hank Johnson, the guy who once said that Guam would tip over. Islands, how are they made? He has the weirdest elocution ever. Like, I thought it was Chris Walken. It's not, it's him. It's so, it's a climate of fear and trepidation. Why does he, there's like only certain words that get enunciated and then he just kind of pushes through the rest. It's fascinating to me in a weird way. Welcome back to the program. We're at the bottom of the second hour and it is Wisconsin. Wisconsin is, it's voting day in Wisconsin. They're having elections today. for their state Supreme Court. And we talked about this, mentioned this the other day, how, and I can't believe how much money, by the way, has been spent here. This Supreme Court, one of the reasons why it's so incredibly important is because this is ultimately the race that could determine the map. And we theoretically could, well, we could lose two seats here. People are going to decide who is going to be the next Supreme Court justice. The money that's been spent on this race is wild. You have the Republican Judge Brad Scheimel and then the Democrat Susan Crawford. They're the candidates that are facing off in the state race. And it is I mean, you have George Soros involved in this race. Elon Musk has been spending money in this race. And I think it's hysterical that Crawford, who was the progressive communist judge, said that Musk's involvement is undemocratic. Now, George Soros is equally involved in this race. And I noticed that Crawford, who probably got donations from Soros, did not say that Soros's involvement was undemocratic. Just Elon Musk's. Because Elon Musk isn't a communist. They think that that's undemocratic. I just think that she hates immigrants. Why does Susan Crawford hate immigrants in Wisconsin? Gosh. Why does she hate this African man, you know, that's spending money on to get, you know, going up there and helping to get Republicans elected? She actually said, quote, I think it's a sad day for democracy to have someone. See, they like immigrants unless they're, you know, like Elon Musk. They like getting involved in elections unless it's somebody like Elon Musk. That's it. So they're facing off. And these are some pretty high stakes with this race. The end, of course, today's April Fool's Day, as it would be. I am so not allowed to do anything on April Fool's Day. And you snitches get stitches. So the Republican in this race, Brad Schimel, they're trying to replace this retiring judge. I can't imagine if he loses, this will undo. I mean, it could theoretically undo the House majority. Because they would redistrict that they would be gerrymandered and you would lose two seats. I don't even know what this means. I mean, it also would shape the state to be a lot bluer than it is. they desperately need to redistrict things to gerrymander things to prevent another Republican from winning that state. And that's what Democrats are focused on. They want to redistrict the Republican strongholds into losing seats where Republicans have tiny, non-existent majorities. Derek Van Orden, who's a Republican out of Wisconsin, and by the way, he's one of the 14 Republicans that Democrats are targeting going into midterms. He said, quote, what's at stake is control of the House of Representatives. And he said that they're trying to buy the House of Representatives so they can subvert the president's agenda and disenfranchise 77 million voters. Well, because they are trying to buy it. It's always interesting when people or entities are accused of doing something that they absolutely are doing and they get butthurt about it. So... They had this back in 2011. This is the other thing that's going to be... Also could go away. Back in 2011, the state legislature in Wisconsin, they were passing voter integrity protections for voter integrity. Right. So you would have to have actual identification to vote. And the other thing that's on the ballot is an opportunity for voters to actually codify this, make enshrine this in a constitutional amendment. to make it to where you have to have voter ID. It's in the state constitution in order to go and vote. Now, one of the things that red state noted is that Susan Crawford, who is the progressive judge facing off against Brad Schimel, she was one of the lawyers who represented these League of Women Voters in 2011. She was fighting against the voter ID law and she ended up losing it. So clearly you see where she stands on this. And also she represented Planned Parenthood in Wisconsin. Susan Crawford is one of those who subscribes to the belief that Planned Parenthood should not only be taxpayer funded, but it's something that should be offered up to every woman. Like, hey, ladies, remember, go get your free abortions. Asterisk by free. It's taxpayer funded and it's all ages, meaning it doesn't matter if you're in your ninth month or in your second month. She's one of those. And she had a lead in early voting. But the people who actually, according to, and this is, I honestly think there's been a real absence of polling in this, good polling. He had an advantage with the most plugged in voters, the people who went out and regularly voted, who voted every election, not just general elections, but they go out and they vote in the municipal. They go out and vote during midterms, things like that. This would be a huge win. I honestly think it's something that Trump should have gone to Wisconsin for and rallied. And I think it's good that Musk was there yesterday. There have been a lot of people who have been sounding the alarm on this. Ultimately, only Wisconsinites can make this determination, but... It's going to be super close. Now, if Susan Crawford wins it, first off, if Brad Schimel wins it, that's a huge victory for conservatives. It's going to be looked at as a victory. One of the first post-general election challenges to Trump. That's how this is going to be viewed. And it will be viewed as a win for POTUS and a win for Elon Musk. His PAC that he created to support these good candidates, they've given millions to Schimel's campaign. If Crawford wins this, it's going to be like I said, you can imagine the headlines, the first election post presidential election. And Trump has you know, there's they're going to look at it like, oh, Trump has suffered defeat or he has a crushing blow. What is this forecast for future special elections and midterms? And they are going it's going to be a shot in the arm for the left. Democrats were fell apart at the at the polls in 2024. This is going to be a shot in the arm for them. And they need every bit that they can get. Now, also, remember, take this up. There's two other special elections. You've got one in Matt Gaetz's seat of Matt Gaetz's district. I think it's Petronas that's going for that seat. I think he'll win it. But you never know. But the one the other one is the Florida 6th Congressional District, where Randy Fine, who doesn't who actually legitimately does not even live in the district. decided he just wanted that seat and wanted to go and represent people he doesn't know and doesn't live amongst. And he is like the worst, out of all of the Republicans in Florida, the fact that they put this guy up for this seat that Mike Waltz won by 30 points, and now they're literally tied, and it's been classified as a toss-up, and the Democrat has outraised fine by like, what, two to three times? He's got such a huge war chest. They were ready, and... This is what happens when you think that you're entitled to certain seats and that you shouldn't have to put any groundwork to get them. I mean, you know, I guess he's too good to live amongst the people in the 6th Congressional District. I don't know. But it kind of floored me. And I'm like, I cannot even believe that this is considered a toss-up race at this point. You realize that if this race goes to a Democrat, that means in midterms, Democrats have to flip three seats to take back the House. Randy Fine loses this seat. There's a less seat that Democrats got to worry about going into midterms. This is crazy. Absolutely insane. Republicans are their own worst enemy time and time again. And and what I will say, I'm going to tell you something, and I've seen this because I've been on the ground. In off election years, when Trump isn't on the ballot, Republicans don't vote. And the coalition doesn't vote. I think that the coattails of your candidate. extend to midterms and can be measured by midterm and off-year elections. I remember going to Georgia when they had the special election there and going from town to town and trying to get out the vote. And people were just done with it. This was after the 2020 election. It was in, I think, what, spring? No, this is before... I'm trying to remember the time. I've been to so many places. But I just remember going around and I was there with Victoria Sparks and she got real mad because people were like, we just don't think we should... It's not important to vote. You're telling this from a woman who came from an Eastern plot country, grew up with socialism. She's like, oh my gosh, what do you mean? You're just going to throw away this constitutional option that you have? This is insane. This is your... Term limits are your vote. And... When all was said and done, and this was that Herschel Walker race, the Republican turnout was so low, terrifyingly low. And especially in the most conservative areas, it was lower than it was during the general election. And so there have been enough elections that pollsters can confidently say, when Trump isn't on the ballot, Republicans do not vote. And not just Republicans, the coalition doesn't vote. Now, that's a real problem. It's a problem because the party health also is as important as the candidates political health. And you can't just say it's one and done. He's in the White House. Let's forget about it. Well, no. Do you want your taxes cut? Do you want jobs to be brought back? Do you want all of the fraud and abuse that you saw that Doge uncovered? Do you want that to actually be cut or do you just like reading headlines about it? Because see, if you want actual action, then you've got to go and you've got to show up at these other elections when Trump isn't on the ballot. And I know you all know that, but apparently there are enough people who don't know that, that it literally changed elections. You realize that low Republican turnout is the reason we lost the Senate in 2020. That is a very uncomfortable fact. If registered Republicans had turned out to vote in Georgia, we would have kept it and we lost it. That's a true thing. You can't blame that one on Trump for the people who always criticize Trump. You can't blame Trump for that. That was Republican voters. That had nothing to do with Trump. So there's a lot to consider here. And Wisconsin is I have to say, I don't know where the RNC has been. Where's the RNC? Have you heard anything from them? We're in the fight of our lives. Taxpayers demand answers. I should see the leaders of the RNC on the television every damn day. I should see them making statements every single day. I want to be so overloaded with information coming from them that I'm tired of seeing their faces. Just like I want to win so much that I want to be tired of it. See what I'm saying? That's what I want. So the RNC need to get involved here. It can't just be third party and then Scott Pressler. He's been sounding the alarm like there's nobody from the organization up here, guys. There's nobody. I mean, he is. And he's not the only person I've been hearing this from. This we have got to get a handle on this before midterms or we're going to lose our backsides. And then it's all over. All over the cycle, they start people start raising money and filing. They're already getting in position now. Gold prices have surged over 40 percent since January 2024, consistently reaching new highs. According to Goldman Sachs research, the upward trend is expected to persist due to strong demand from central banks. 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Pastor Alan Jackson encourages Christians to get tough and fight.
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The military had been turned into a social experiment. Apparently, they've been looting the coffers in Washington for a long time of hundreds of billions of dollars, terminating the lives of our children. I mean, we all know the litany of things that are happening. It feels like it's going to take a determination from the people of faith if we're going to see this walked back to the place it needs to be for the sake of our children.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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These are some real bangers today. So let's see if we can get through these. All right. First and foremost, this is the headline at the smoking gun. Everyone knows what conch is. C-O-N-C-H. Let me just establish that. Florida woman charged with conch bonking. 40-year-old Florida woman was charged with felony battery because she attacked a dude with a giant conch shell, according to police. They said that Nikki Quarterman was very intoxicated when she got into a domestic argument with a 63-year-old victim. They've been in an on-off relationship. And she, after the argument, she undressed and broke everything. And then she grabbed a 10 to 12 inch dried conch shell and swung it at his head multiple times, threw it at him. He got a laceration to his hand when he tried to block it. And then she locked herself in the garage. She was taken into custody, posted $15,000 bond. She was arrested six months ago for pretty much the same thing, except no conch shell this time. So now she's got all kinds of battery, DUI, assault, law enforcement, oh my gosh, everything. Her rap sheet is forever long. A Florida death row inmate says his morbid obesity will complicate the lethal injection, and he wants leniency. Or just use another shot. The needles aren't expensive. You know, I mean, if it takes more, it takes more. He wants leniency. 48-year-old Michael Tanzi is morbidly obese, and he's got some stuff I don't care about because he's a killer, an unrepentant killer. And so he says that it would cause needless suffering. That's kind of the... point. I want suffering. Maybe I shouldn't say that, but I do. So no, got to go dude. Third hour next. I've seen the amazing changes Relief Factor has made for so many people. And I've seen it firsthand through my husband, Chris's pain relief from using Relief Factor. Right now, it's easy to give their product a try because Relief Factor makes it pain-free with their three-week quick start for just $19.95. Get rid of pain and start living better. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, it works by supporting your body's response to inflammation. It doesn't just mask pain for a short time. It helps reduce or even eliminate it. It's safe to take daily. And in fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective. Whether it's neck, back, joint, or muscle pain, Relief Factor can help. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Give Relief Factor a try. With their pain-free trial, you can get a three-week quick start for only $19.95, less than a dollar a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Get rid of pain and start living better. Give Relief Factor a try. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF or visit relieffactor.com.
SPEAKER 18 :
Of course, sir. So this is an executive order, as you said, that deals with the ticket reselling business. For fans of live entertainment and for entertainers as well, the ticket reselling industry has become a huge issue. These people use bots and computer algorithms to buy up huge blocks of tickets and then jack up the price so that fans of live entertainers like Mr. Ritchie I almost called him Mr. Rock, don't have access to concerts the way that they should. And when they do, it's at exorbitantly high prices. So what this executive order does, it charges the FTC and the Department of Justice with rigorously enforcing laws on the books in collaboration with state attorneys general that have power over consumer protection.
SPEAKER 13 :
uh and other people who have the power to really crack down on this issue uh so that entertainers and fans uh won't be subject to these abusive and oftentimes illegal practices good thank you very much i love this guy who makes the every time he hands him executive order well sir this is an executive order barring green day from calling itself punk as you know green day is not punk and there's a lot of debate as to how pop they actually are And another thing to note, sir, that has been brought up is that they faked a British accent their whole first album. You know the song Longview, which was their chart-topping single that came from their first album, Green Day's Dookie. And that, sir, was out in the 90s. So this is what this order is, just barring them from being able to describe themselves as punk. And then hands it over. I love this guy. It's great. Welcome back to the show. Top of the third hour. Dana Lash with you. So they had Mr. Rock. That's Mr. Kid Rock in there, standing next to the Resolute desk. And is that the one that he changed because they said Elon Musk's kid wiped a booger on it? I don't know. The press was going crazy over that a couple weeks ago. I don't know if it is or not. They switch out different things, but I highly doubt that that's why. But that was funny. But they had Kid Rock in there. And then you got Peter Doocy. This is Audio Sound by 19. Go ahead and play this one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you. Did Biden do news conferences like this, Peter? I don't think so. No.
SPEAKER 22 :
He was never standing next to somebody who looked like they were about to get shot out of a cannon. Thank you.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, that jacket, though. Yeah, he does. He's got his bandstand hat, like the hat that you would wear out to a garden party in your town squares. The band plays the American standards. You know, he's got the... right i liked how kid rock was he's like you know what do you see you're right that was yeah he's like that's a good one it's true though i think you need it's like a hype man right there but that's good no so does this mean that everybody all the people in hollywood got to thank kid rock for being there because i think he is that the purpose of him being there is because he was one of the people that pushed those
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I assume so.
SPEAKER 13 :
So does everybody in Hollywood have to kiss his butt? Isn't that how it goes? Like, look, where's Taylor Swift at? Didn't Taylor Swift always complain about tickets and Ticketmaster and all this stuff?
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, there's a lot of bands out there that have been against the machine that Ticketmaster has become.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, yeah. And look, and Trump, not Biden, but Trump did it. Now you might say, that's stupid. Why are we worried about this? Well... You got to remember populist tactics. It keeps the younger voters or younger voters happy. Right. It's kind of what part and parcel of what that is. So just very interesting. A couple of other things. We're going to have Florida Governor Ron DeSantis coming up at the back. bottom of this third hour he's been super busy in florida and they've been dealing with florida rhinos and fighting with property tax and uh all kinds of good stuff over there so we're gonna we're gonna touch on all of that and one other quick thing to note too let me pull this up because i saw this a little bit earlier so hhs nih cdc uh yeah they had a bunch more people fired More people were put on leave. They were told they were nil, according to CNN. They were not going to have access to their buildings starting today. Apparently, RFK Jr. was going to fire X amount, and I think he doubled it. That's a shame. Maybe they can learn to code. They said that entire offices were being eliminated and much of the focus appeared to be on the administrative side of things, but not all of it. Hmm. So they that's yeah, I don't feel bad. No ways about this. None at all. None at all. There are too many. I mean, I still go back to the fact that the CDC was trying to overextend its authority and tell people that they don't have to pay rent for But the property owners still had to pay taxes. They just didn't have to pay rent. So they got to live there for free. And then House Judiciary put out just a couple of hours ago, new internal FBI chat logs show that the FBI imposed a gag order about the New York Post story on Hunter Biden's laptop the day it came out. This is wild, this story. I was looking at some of this on break because the FBI had the laptop the day the story came out. the FBI refused to be honest about it. And they really worked hard to discredit it, even after October 14th of 2020, one FBI analyst tried to tell Twitter that the laptop was real and his bosses silenced him. And the FBI refused to, in spite of requests from the House Judiciary, produce internal communications from that day in an unclassified form for the American public to see. And there are time-stamped messages, and it is damaging. For instance, someone, you have Laura Demlow, James Dennehy, Bradley Benavides, and several others saying things like, oh, this is just a domestic hit job. You guys are tracking coverage of the laptop, right? I would love to know if a copy exists and if it was provided to anyone else. And it said that... And they were talking about briefing each other on on it. And it said that no one on no one's authorized to comment. And then they also stated in this, please do not discuss Biden matter. Here's a gag order. Someone said Twitter's treating as disinformation. There was one whistleblower that they asked, have you admonished? Yes, but he won't shut up. That's literally a message that they literally said that. I can't even make this up. Oh, my gosh. They said, in fact, one said that someone from Twitter asked whether it was real. One of the FBI folks who was on the call confirmed, yes, that it was. And this is testimony of Laura Demla, who was the then China unit chief of the FBI's Foreign Influence Task Force. They said that one of the people, one of the FBI people on the call, according to this transcript, confirmed that, yes, it was. Another participant jumped in, said no further comment. And she said, I recall that when the question came up, an intelligence analyst assigned to the criminal investigative division said, yes, the laptop is real. And then it was an OGC attorney assigned to the case that stepped in and said, we will not comment further on this topic. They were really working to not talk about it, to downplay the importance of it. And then Facebook demoted the story right before the election. I was one of many people who had their accounts suspended. Oh, my gosh. I was suspended on Facebook. I got suspended. I got a strike on Instagram. We got in trouble on YouTube. They took videos done on YouTube. They demonetized a bunch of stuff. I was suspended on Twitter. uh and um then i then they finally reinstated it because i kept having to fight it it was ridiculous and then they try to punish you every time you you object to being struck if you're on youtube or facebook or wherever like if you do if you object too many times and they just think you're problematic and they get rid of you it's ridiculous um And so I'm finally I'm glad that this was I'm glad that this was remedied and that this I mean, it was absolute election interference, absolute, unarguable election interference. No absolute doubt. No doubt at all whatsoever. This is one of the greatest cover ups just ever. So. This is one of the things we're also... Tomorrow, one of the things I'm going to discuss as well and get more into this is this EPIC project in Texas. We first talked about this a few weeks ago. A large-scale community that's being planned for Texas. And there's a lot of questions as to whether or not the project is in compliance with state law. And we're going to talk about some of this tomorrow. In the meantime... One of the other things that... Because I don't watch a lot of TV. There will be some series. Kane and I were talking about this on break that we watch. How difficult is it for you guys to find stuff that you want to watch? Like on even on streaming services, everything's such a garbage nowadays. It's all garbage and it's all super highly sexualized. And I've been I've got some objections, but I've been I like Taylor Sheridan's storylines and I've been watching 1923. I watched the earlier one that was in the 1800s and that was great. And then, you know, obviously you watch the Yellowstone flagship. Not every series that you watch is perfect. Been watching 1923. Can I just say that I could go forever without watching the Timothy Dalton S&M stuff? How in the world is that in a Taylor Sheridan series? Why do we need that? It literally does nothing to the plot. We get it that Timothy Dalton is a weirdo. We get it. He's a weirdo without trying to be a weirdo. He's one of those people, right? You ever meet people that look creepy without being creepy and you're like, you're creepy. You know what I mean? And if they did something creepy, you tell your friends, I'm so not shocked because Timothy Dalton's like that. He's like a walking one-man horror show. You don't need to have S&M scenes in every episode to reinforce the fact that the guy is... And he's a sadomasochist and all this other stuff. You don't have to do that. So I could do without it. And it's a pain in the backside to fast forward through all that because I don't want to watch that. Now, the series I like because of one actress in it. She's the actress. I can't pronounce her last name. Her first name is Julia. She plays Alex Dutton. So if you haven't watched the series, it's really good. We are on, what, episode six million of Spencer Dutton trying to get home. This, you know, wild Greek tragedy, 10-year journey, modern-day Odysseus trying to get back home to his ranch in Montana. I like the actor who plays him. He's got good chemistry with the actress who plays Alex Dutton. And it is, it's a good, it's a good series. Helen Mirren is fabulous in it. Harrison Ford is really good in it. Is he really trying to be old and slow moving or is that him? That's a good question. He's really good in the series. He doesn't really have to do much. He's very good.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm also no acting coach.
SPEAKER 13 :
no but you i mean he sells it i'm wholly unqualified i can almost smell the tobacco on him you know like my grandfather was a cattle rancher and he's you know old grizzled cattle rancher and and he would smoke marbles and i could just that's what he reminds me of anyway it's such a it's a very good series but right now alexa dutton has been trying to get to her husband's ranch in montana and she's currently caught in a snowdrift In a car. And there's probably going to be a Bigfoot out there that's going to try to rape her. I'm just saying, because she's been going through hell for this last season. You haven't watched any of it, Cain. Have you watched any of the Yellowstone series?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I've seen some Yellowstone episodes, but I got rid of Paramount like a long time ago. So I can't watch it.
SPEAKER 13 :
The only TV shows that I actually watch are those. People ask me, do you watch White Lotus? No. And there's one show that I was so not interested in watching, but Walton Groggins is in it, and he's a brilliant actor. And he apparently plays somebody who's so over the top and crazy that I'm, it's like something gemstones. I'm interested in watching that just for his, he's a great character actor, just for watching him. I don't know. But I don't watch a lot. So I could do, like I said, with all the weird Timothy Dalton stuff, I could do without all of that. But I want more of the Spencer and Alex storyline. I want more of them and I want more Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren. I don't care about the whatever rainwater girl story. I don't even care. Don't care. some chick out in the prairie just i wrap it up it's like such it's filler so i don't know that's the only stuff because every now and then people will go well what is it that you're watching and i put stuff out if i'm like reading something or watching something but i don't watch a lot of a lot of things so and now all of the news you would probably miss it's time for dana's quick five So the pull this up. Well, we talked about this. Massey and Republicans are pushing getting rid of dual citizenship. Talk about that yesterday. Can you get this one also? Let's see. Let's go. Here's one. This is I didn't have time to get to all of this yesterday. I think I only actually just read the headline real quick. This has to do with the plumber that went back to reclog a pipe after a restaurant refused to pay the bill. That's a level of pettiness to which I aspire. In Evansville, Indiana, owners of Eastside Restaurant, they said that it was extortion. That's not what extortion is. The plumber, they hired a plumber. The plumber came out, fixed the pipe, fixed the, you know, they had their kitchen's grease trap that overflowed. So they called the plumbing company to come and fix it. When it happened again three days later, they called them back, said it was an emergency. They returned for the second job. And they said that the bill was nearly double for what was paid the first time. The first one was $235,000. Then it was $390,000. The owners wouldn't pay for the second one. And they said that he needs to stand behind his work. Okay, that only matters if you didn't, did you not use it? Like, what's happening? And then, so he went back and he basically stuffed the pipe up again. I mean, right? So they said that they paid it under protest. They had to pay. Well, because you had to pay because he performed a service for you. He was not robbing you blind. Kane says that this is like a Mad Libs headline. All right, get ready. An Atlanta bagpiper killed while scuba diving. Son who vanished four years ago found dead at home.
SPEAKER 08 :
Seems like a long story.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, do you need to have every identifying factor about the guy in the headline? You could just say a man, you know, was killed in a scuba diving incident while on vacation in Hawaii.
SPEAKER 08 :
He plays bagpipes. How would we know?
SPEAKER 13 :
But here's like some more. So he was known for playing bagpipes around Atlanta. And then when the family went to get to his home to settle his affairs, they found the skeletal remains of their missing brother. That's a lot. We got Governor DeSantis up next. Jesus.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 21 :
So we have almost three to one Republicans in the House of Representatives. Have they passed open carry, which 38 states have? Of course they haven't done that. They haven't done it. Now, if you ask them when they campaign, do you support it? They will all say yes. And then somehow it just magically doesn't get doesn't happen.
SPEAKER 13 :
See, this is why it's so important. Yes, you want to elect you want to elect Republicans. And yes, it's great. to have a super majority. But you also have to be sure that you are electing good quality Republicans. And nothing frustrates any voters more than what we're seeing in Florida and Texas. But Florida, I think, is even bigger because Florida is like the blueprint for the nation, how Republican policies should be enacted and how things should be governed and administrated. And they have such a wealth of victory over there. And it's like the governor is... like fighting. He's just out there fighting the legislature. And it's just I want to pull my hair out. So I can't even imagine where he is right now. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis joins us from the governor's mansion on Skype. It's good to see you, Governor. First off, thank you for fighting for Second Amendment rights and holding true to the promises that you made when campaigning. You have been pushing these lawmakers to deliver this for voters. So I thank you as a big Second Amendment advocate on that. But I also have to say I'm so sorry that voters and you are fighting just to get everything else that was promised that these lawmakers promised them.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, Dana, you know, I will say this. I think that I do see a distinction between the Florida House and the Florida Senate. I think we've had real productive discussions about all these significant issues with a lot of our senators, whether it's property tax, whether it's some of the other things that we want to do with things like education, law enforcement. I think the Florida House of Representatives is basically engaged in something that voters clearly don't like and will not like in the future. They have ridden into office on the goodwill that has been generated by our Florida model, where, you know, Previous legislatures were very much working with me on that. It wasn't like I just did it all. But it generated a lot of goodwill. We tackled all the big issues. We delivered an unprecedented amount of conservative wins. And so they now have this big supermajority in the Florida House, almost a three to one supermajority. Wow. And how are they using that? They are using it to do things like carbon sequestration. They are doing it to do things like joining with Democrats to undo spending reductions that I put in the budget last June. They are doing things like expanding bureaucracies and trying to create new government offices. And so you think about like, you campaigned on the Florida model. And yet you're doing your best to squander it. And people will say, oh, the governor thinks they just have to do what he wants. No, you do what you campaigned on. If you told the voters that you were opposed to expanding Second Amendment protections, if you told them that you were going to join with Democrats to increase pork spending, if you said to voters that you weren't going to entertain property tax relief, but you were going to indulge and climate hysteria and things like sea carbon sequestration. If that's what you campaigned on, look, I disagree with that. But if that's what you do, then you're being true to the voters that elected you. But none of these guys campaigned on that. They all campaigned on our conservative agenda. And now that they're in power, they're basically squandering this. I even had to make a statement on, you know, they don't want to do property tax. They don't want to do open carry. But one thing they have done is they have tried to take away the capital office for our U.S. Senator Ashley Moody. It had been with Marco Rubio for 15 years. Marco became Secretary of State. I appointed Senator Moody to be the U.S. Senator. and the House took it away because Senator Moody, and you remember these discussions back in January, she sided with me against the House on the immigration enforcement legislation. I called a special session. We wanted to make sure all state and local were participating with ICE. We wanted to help Trump increase deportations. The House leadership and staff drafted a bill that was basically an amnesty bill. There was huge voter blowback. I know you had one of the rhinos on, I think one of the rhino senators on your show and he couldn't answer any of the questions about it. But this was really something that the House was driving and she did the right thing. So they're now taking that away and they're actually filing legislation to deny her the ability to use the office and to regulate parking spaces in the Florida Capitol. How petty is this? How embarrassing is this, that we are this model Republican state, we had two years of unprecedented conservative victories, and now the Florida House of Representatives is all spun up about legislating who controls parking space in the basement of the Capitol.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's you're right. Petty is a great way to describe it. We're for those listening. We're talking to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. You can watch it also channel 367 DirecTV. You you mentioned they're trying to undo a lot of the cost savings that you've implemented from what I read. And I think you cited this as well. Over 60 million dollars. That's for what are they what are they trying to spend this money on? I mean, this is this these these savings. This is one of the things that you promised voters. Voters were very happy. And now they're trying to undermine your efforts. They do realize, Governor, that all the people that moved to Florida were moving to Florida because they were happy with the administration of the state and that they were happy with the direction that the state was going. This seems like a bait and switch what these Republican legislators in the House are doing.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, that's the thing, Dana. And I mean, this is not for me to like, you know, beat my own chest. But the reality is when I go out, do different events, even just go run errands in Florida, someone will come up to me every single time without fail and say, I moved to Florida because of you and what you've done and what Florida stands for. So we have a unique brand in this country right now for the type of governance that people who think like us really aspire to. And that's just a fact. I mean, that is that is how we've had hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Republicans who gravitated to this state since I've been governor, driven by they want to live in a place that respects their freedom, where the folks in power share their values. And so that's just kind of what we've done. So it's really false advertising to get into office on that goodwill. And remember, we didn't have a super majority my first term. We got the super majority in the House with the reelection, my reelection in 2022. We were winning places. that Republicans had never won before, and then we were able to hold that in 2024. And I think a lot of the reason why we held it in 2024, the supermajority, is because voters saw the results that we had produced. We had delivered a huge legislative agenda more significant than probably had ever been done in american history certainly in modern republican party history and the voters responded positively so to now go in and to be doing all these games and to not really focusing on the issues that matter and here's the thing um you know i think that there's a lot of folks in the florida senate that want to continue to advance the ball they're working hard on different things and i may not agree with them on everything but i think their goal is to try to arrive at the best outcome for the state. I do think a lot of what motivates the House, particularly the leadership, is they want to join with Democrats to stop me. This is what they want to do. They view the last two years, even though we've had unprecedented success legislatively, they view those last two years negatively because they say, oh, the governor was getting everything he wants. And it wasn't what I wanted, Dana. It was what the voters delivered us here to do I won the state by 20 points. I mean, no Republican has ever won a victory like that in the history of Florida. And so the legislators in the House, they were following through on the mandate that we had received. It wasn't because I was saying it. It was because the voters demanded it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. And the voters demanded tough immigration enforcement. So this is one of the things that you were victorious on, making sure that emergency powers were retained, the illegal alien transport, going after transnational gangs, no in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. Suspensions removal from office, your authority to suspend or remove local officials who are not complying with the federal deportation. I mean, this is all the federal mandate coming in and being implemented at the Florida state level. And there were fights against you for this. This is I mean, you can even see, though, on that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Look at what's happened. So the House, Florida House, fought me on that. They said that this wasn't something that was urgent. They said that it could wait till the regular session. Now, they wouldn't have done it in the regular session either. And I knew that. That's why I insisted on a special session. And so the House wrote this ridiculous amnesty bill that stopped my efforts that I had been doing. But what we have now in Florida, because of the legislation that we got enacted— We have all 67 Florida counties, the sheriffs, have 287 agreements with ICE. We're the only state in the country that can say that. We now have more and more police departments that are signing up. We had the Fort Myers City Council They initially voted not to cooperate with ICE, and then the Attorney General and myself reminded them, you don't have the choice. The state law mandates you, and I have the ability to remove you. So then they reversed course, and they did. So not only are we not a sanctuary state, we're a state where you have a duty to affirmatively help with these deportation efforts. So no other state has done that, but none of the stuff that has made positive news on immigration in florida with state and local none of that probably would have happened had the house gotten their way back in january and so you think about it of all the things president trump ran on border and immigration was probably number one He got delivered a mandate. Biden was the worst president on immigration in American history. Here I am as governor saying state of Florida needs to be on board with the Trump administration. Let's go day one ahead of the curve. We got to do it. And the House of Representatives in Florida fought me over that. And eventually we landed the plane. But I mean, you would think, why did I have to call that special session? why didn't the house call the special session after trump won and say no we've got urgency let's stand with the president they didn't do that because that's not what they wanted to do and because i wanted to do it that's why they fought it if i propose to get rid of property taxes they will fight it if i propose you know to continue with hope florida the first lady's initiative that has gotten people out of welfare onto self-sufficiency save taxpayers 100 million dollars they'll oppose it, and they are now opposing that. So it's all just a reaction to try to fight me rather than try to do what's best for Florida. And again, if they had run in their primaries saying, if you nominate me, I pledge to oppose the governor, and they were to win and that's what they do, that's totally fine with me. None of them campaigned on that because none of them would have won their primaries if they campaigned on that.
SPEAKER 13 :
It looks like one of them is not going to win an election in the sixth congressional district, a seat that you know very well, Governor, because the candidate doesn't even live in the district, apparently. And even though I think Waltz won that seat by 30 points, you won it by a huge margin when you held it. But now it's considered a toss up within the margin of error to the Democrat challenger. And that's, of course, the one that Randy Fine's going for. I think that states everything about the nature of the game they're playing.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, here's the thing. I do think that the Republican will win that district. I mean, President Trump won it by 30 points. I think I won it by 30, 35 points. I know the area well. I represented that area in Congress. He's not from that district. i think the president got really bad advice about endorsing him and was told that he was the only candidate that could win which is totally not true and there's a whole host of reasons how that advice gets to him that i think is very problematic but it is what it is um but he is going to underperform so i i think the republican will win but he will underperform and he's going to underperform because a lot of republicans aren't going to be willing to go out and vote for him i mean you had him on your show he was fighting for an amnesty bill in the Florida legislature. He was attacking me for wanting strong immigration legislation. And so when voters see that, it's like, you know what? Why would I wanna vote for you if you're just gonna stab us in the back? So I think he's gonna have trouble generating even close to the amount of enthusiasm that President Trump did or other candidates have done. But I think it's almost physically impossible for a Republican to lose that district. So I think we're looking at a Republican victory, but an underperformance. Then what's gonna happen? The media is gonna blame President Trump. They're gonna say, see, this shows the Trump agenda is somehow not popular when you and I know, because we know the candidate, This is a referendum on this particular candidate being somebody that a lot of voters don't want to vote for. And it's a reflection on his deficiencies. It's not a reflection on the Trump agenda. And so just prepare for an underperformance. Hopefully there's great performance in that district. I mean, I want Republicans to do well, but I think that Republican voters are sick of these guys getting into office And then basically telling them that an amnesty bill is what voters should want. Nobody wanted the legislation that that person was pushing.
SPEAKER 13 :
I have two quick questions for you. I'm going to end with asking you about Hope Florida really quickly on the property taxes. God love you for the property taxes, because you, I think, are the only person that's gone out there and said you don't really own your own property. You're constantly paying rent. rent to the government for it. And you're pushing now to to undo this in the state of Florida. That would be amazing. We're never going to do that in Texas. So, I mean, Florida is looking better and better.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, so we're trying to get a stopgap cut this year of about $1,000 on average per household. But the main event is going on the ballot because ultimately under Florida's constitution, the property taxes are a power of local government. And so you would need a constitutional referendum. We need 60% of the vote for that. But man, can you imagine... no income tax, and then we go after a property tax. But the thing is, it's possible in Florida because we have the luxury. We had 142 million visitors last year. We have a lot of seasonal folks who aren't Florida residents. We have the luxury of being able to offload our tax burden to non-residents, basically. So why would we not take that opportunity to do that Plus, these local governments have gotten bloated over the last five or six years. So they'll say, oh, if you do property tax and they're not going to have money for services. But the reality is, if they just reduce their budget to where it was five years ago, that would be most of the way we would need to go anyways on this. So that's going to be a big fight. But this is ultimately about. do you actually own private property or not? Because if I buy a TV and I hang it on my wall, I have to pay sales tax when I buy it, but I don't keep paying tax to the government. It's a private property. So is your home and your land private property? Well, if the government can seize it because you're not paying them taxes for your entire life, then it's not truly yours independent of the state.
SPEAKER 13 :
I have one last question for you. About a minute left. Hope Florida, the project of the first lady, which is a brilliant private public partnership that is doing so much to help people in Florida. This would be so great, even like grown and enacted even more if she were sitting in the governor's mansion. So it's a one two punch. I'm sorry, but I got to do it. Hope Florida is great. And is the is the first lady of Florida going to run for governor?
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So on Hope Florida, this is her initiative. She came up with this and it's really a frontal attack on Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty approach. Instead of having folks working in the government trying to get people on programs, we've transformed their roles to be navigators to try to navigate people in need to all the resources available in society outside of government. We embrace the faith-based community. We embrace our charitable organizations, businesses that want to help their community, individual volunteers. And so just in less than two years, she's gotten 30,000 people off welfare and saved the state $100 million. And I would say, that I look at a lot of these politicians that have been in office for 20 years, just that achievement alone is more than what most of these folks ever accomplished. And so Rush Limbaugh said at one time that he's always worried about the spouses pulling the principal to the left. And with Casey, he said she's more conservative than you.
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So there's a chance. Yes. Last word, Governor. Yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
You're saying there's a chance.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right. There it is. Governor DeSantis, thank you so much. We got to go. We're short on time. We'll have you back. Thank you, Governor.
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This episode of The Good News with Angie Austin celebrates both individual and collective narratives, as it chronicles Rebecca Maciera-Kaufman's personal experiences in crafting her book 'Fit CEO'. In addition to healthy living tips, the episode showcases a poignant conversation with Monica Mohindra from the Veterans History Project, emphasizing the importance of capturing and honoring the stories of Vietnam veterans. Tune in for a blend of inspiration and reflection, ideal for anyone looking to lead a fulfilling and balanced life.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with The Good News. Joining us is Rebecca Maciera-Kaufman to talk about her book, Fit CEO. And the full title is Fit CEO, Be the Leader of Your Life, Achieve Holistic Health in Your Busy Life at Work, Home, and Play. And Rebecca, you wrote this book with Lillian So. Welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. It's great to be here, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so tell me, great to have you, tell me a little about your CEO background and then Lillian's personal training background and how you put that together for this, you know, these simple habits for a holistic life.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. So over my years as an executive, I always wanted to be CEO someday and let the universe know. And at the time, one of the places I worked had a subsidiary bank that they asked me to be CEO of that required commuting. So I looked for a personal trainer that might be willing to work with me just half an hour a month. And I met Lillian Sobe. And Lillian The two of us had a mind meld. I had already planned to write the book, said CEO. It was an accumulation of all my habits and hacks that people were always asking about with my extensive travel and leadership about how I managed my schedule, my energy, and seeing my family. And so I asked Lillian if someday when I wrote the book she would be willing to be my co-author, and she said yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that's pretty cool. All right, so when you say you wanted to work with her half an hour a month, how did that work?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, at the time, I was commuting to multiple countries and states, and I was trying to figure out how to have a routine that I could do in under 30 minutes in a hotel room or in a gym. And so she and I worked together once a month, sometimes twice a month if I was in town enough, and built routines for me. So I traveled with a jump rope, some stretchy bands, and was able to create a really quick routine, 25 minutes that I could do anywhere. Five minutes of jump roping, some bands that are like using your muscles and building muscles and then some stretching and stay fit while traveling.
SPEAKER 07 :
And do you incorporate those workouts in your book?
SPEAKER 05 :
I do. They're all in the book. In the appendix, we show pictures of how to do them and then The book is written in 30 chapters. Each chapter is two to three pages. It takes a total of two hours to read the book. It's very short and sweet. And each chapter is a leadership lesson from my life as being an executive and a CEO, and then the leader of my life, as well as then Lillian adds her voice that's literally in another font, which says, what to do, immediate and imperfect action, or getting in your body, or pen to paper, and we give you exercises that you can do in five or ten minutes.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, I love this idea because I have three kids, and I have a home studio, and I am, you know, fairly busy. My kids are all in competitive sports. One's going to be a college athlete next year, and we travel, I would say, 10 to 12 times a year just for their sports. And then all my old NBC News friends from L.A., we travel again together now that our kids are older that we can get together and travel. So I travel a lot more probably now, though, for fun than when I was younger. So this is very intriguing to me. I was just part of a study at the University of Colorado Health Center on the Anschutz campus. It's a huge medical campus. It's kind of cool. I do five minutes of exercise like 10 times a day. And that was to prevent diabetes. But I started to realize like, wow, even though it's a hassle to remember to do it 10 times a day, if I set a timer, it's really easy to do five minutes of exercise at a time. And even though yours is 25, like in a piece, I see how you could really fit all of these little bits of exercise into a very busy schedule and stay fit, like no excuses, you know?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And in the book, we share exactly what you're talking about. If you want to do five minutes a day to start, 10 minutes a day, four times a day of five minutes, whatever works for your schedule, going for a walk, parking a few blocks away from the grocery store and walking there and back with your bags. Right. Taking the stairs if you're in a place that has a, you know, there's an escalator or there's stairs. Take the stairs. And just adding it throughout the day, which we say get in your body and move.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm telling you, I don't know how there are overweight sports parents because when we go to, we just got back from two volleyball tournaments and one in Boston and one in Vegas. I was walking like I'd say seven miles a day because you have to walk so far to get into these giant coliseums and all that jive. But I'm really intrigued also besides the fitness aspect, what are some of the key principles to becoming the leader of your own life? Because I know you put some of your CEO aspects into the book.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. I mean, like with anything in life or business, if you want to get it done, I talk about starting and we talk about starting with intention. What do you want to achieve? Where do you want to go? Setting your intention is the start to achieving the life you want or the result for a business outcome. Then set aside the time in small increments, five to ten minutes, and build the routines and habits to get you there and commit. One of the things I did in business is create a set of routines that we did as a management team consistently that signaled exactly where we were going for the whole team, how we were planning to get there, and how we were doing against that, and then celebrating each time we made a good step towards it. So these are examples in business. And in life, it's the same. It is setting the time to, say, move five minutes a day as you do 10 times a day, and then celebrating the fact that you did it. And if you don't, be nice to yourself. It will happen tomorrow.
SPEAKER 07 :
How about some suggestions, you know, to make the most out of each of our days? And, you know, what are some of these healthy habits?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it's really about eating right and moving as well as getting outdoors and smiling. A lot of what one can do is just start your day right with the right kind of food and Make sure you're moving throughout the day. Make sure you get some fresh air and some sunshine. And remember to smile and enjoy the day. There are other things like the fresh air really helps when you get outside, looking at the sky and maybe finding some awe. And then throughout the day in those minutes where you're going to move, maybe get on the floor and get off the floor. It really helps with your leg muscles. And then find gratitude for yourself first and foremost that you did. Move and get outside, get on the floor, and then gratitude for life, and you'll get a lot more out of your day.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm wondering, you know, for people, I mean, this is really great for people who are busy, but to be honest with you, even if they're not busy, a lot of us just take those extra moments and sit on the phone. You really can't incorporate watching a movie. I watch Netflix while I'm doing my five minutes. I sit on the stairs, my phone on the stairs, and then I do, I have my headphones on. I can still watch my Netflix and then I do my five minutes. So a lot of the things we waste time on, like a Netflix show or TV, just playing some video game. You can walk around your yard with your dog and still do these goofy games or whatever you like to do on your phone. You can do these things together and still work out. I think stress, though, for someone like you who really truly is busy When you talk about your travel schedule, missed planes, sleeping in the airport, trying to find a hotel, they're all taken because there's a storm and all the planes are grounded. How do you manage stress? Do you have tips for managing stress as well?
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. We share a lot of those in the book. But start with resetting. And what I mean by reset is take a break, step back. So the problem, you're stressed, your planes cancel, meetings are all messed up. So before you allow that. stress to rise through your body. Take a break, step back and put your own oxygen mask on first and gain some perspective. Zoom out. Okay, we're going to get on another flight. Okay, I'm going to get the meetings rescheduled or I'm going to do them by phone and walk to the airport. And think about the stress at arm's length from you, maybe in the middle of the table and not on your chest as a heavy weight. Another key habit is take a breath. Move some more. And if it's a personal stress, something not related to business, you've got bad news at the doctor's office, call a friend. Gain perspective. Get some support. But one of the things I love to tell everyone is think of a metaphor. And the metaphor I love is be a duck and let it roll off your back. You can look at it in a puddle on the floor instead of, again, a weight on your body.
SPEAKER 07 :
know i just traveled with a lot of people on these trips um you know so you've got 10 players and that means usually at least 20 family members maybe a couple of kids so that's 30 throw in a couple of extra kids that's 35 and then the coaches you're around 40 people you're interacting with every day just on your team and then we actually took a spring break after that with another family and stayed in the house okay so with that i realized how many people can't let things go Like they hate this other team because they don't like the coach. They don't like the setter on that team because their kid used to play with them and the dad is mean and I can't wait, you know, cheering when they fail, you know, getting irritated about some problem with the rental house or like just fixating on it. problems and i turn to my husband and i'm like we are so blessed that we can just let things go it takes so much stress out of your life like you cannot change this so how can we make the best of this right like in one case they offered us another backyard of a house two blocks away with a waterfall and slides and a pool and a basketball court and like how is that not making the best of it, right? But my friend was still mad that our pool at our rental wasn't working. And I'm like, who cares? We got a waterfall and a slide, you know? But not being able to let things go. I love your duck analogy because if you can visualize it, maybe you can help you let things go because that fixation on those things you can't change is exhausting.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I have another example. I used to You know, walk into the house. I had kids, a husband walk into the house from my job and it would sort of be on my body, all that stress.
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Yes.
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I gave me that feedback, which is great. And so I started a practice of a few blocks from home. I stopped being on the phone with a colleague or employee and I would roll down the window, have the fresh air come in and I would throw all my stress mentally, you know, metaphorically out the window. So by the time I ran home, I was back to being mom and kids would run and grab my legs and my husband and I would hug hello. So not bringing the stress into the household. And another way, roll down the window, throw it out the window. Or when you walk in the door, flush it down the toilet. Whatever you need to do, do symbolic things to take the stress off your body metaphorically. And guess what? It does help.
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I like that. I like that a lot. I do the filing cabinet in my brain. And so the filing cabinet in my brain, I go, okay, this is like right in the front right now, but I've got to go have fun at this, you know, like we had a banquet last night, let's say for basketball. So I've got to honor my kid. I can't be worried about something. So I file it in the back of my brain. I have this little visual where whatever the problem is, it goes way to the back of the file. It's so stupid, but it works.
SPEAKER 05 :
Love it. It's a great example of using an image, a metaphor to really compartmentalize the stress somewhere else so you can be present for the thing that you need to be present for, which is your kids or the game or the friend.
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Yeah, they won state. So it's really fun. So I didn't want to ruin that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're so excited. They have a big trophy and everything is really cute. Okay, so what we got a minute left. What do you want people? What would be your dream for people to take away from the book after they spend two hours going over all your routines and your tips?
SPEAKER 05 :
My dream would be that at the end of the day, people realize that they really are a collection of all of our own habits and choose the habits that nourish you.
SPEAKER 07 :
I like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
That would be my dream.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I like that a lot. And really easy to find the book Fit CEO. Give us a website if you'd like as well. I found Fit CEO, Be the Leader of Your Life on Amazon, but I'm sure it's all over where books are sold and a website for us as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. So my website is rmkgroupllc.com. That's rmkgroupllc.com. And in there are all my publications. You can link on, you know, go to the publications link and there'll be Fit CEO there and other articles and things I've written. And Fit CEO is at amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com, booktopia.com and any local bookstore you can order it. Awesome. Thank you, Rebecca. Thank you, Andy. You bet.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. Real excited about this interview. National Veterans Day is March 29th, and this April marks the 50th anniversary of the war's conclusion. Joining us again today is Monica Mohindra, director of the Veterans History Project at the Library of Congress. The Veterans History Project hopes to preserve the stories of all veterans, and at this time is particularly calling upon Vietnam vets and their families also to share their personal stories as part of our national record. Welcome back, Monica.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks so much for having me back, Angie.
SPEAKER 07 :
One of my favorite interviews, and you know, I've done thousands because I've been doing news and TV and radio for 30 years, and I love this project.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow. How flattering. How kind. It's not me, though. It's all of us. It's the Veterans History Project. That's really what gets to everyone because we're all having the opportunity here to engage in this important national mission together.
SPEAKER 07 :
I love it. All right, so let's just give an overview for those people who don't know. What is the Veterans History Project?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's at least three things at once. It is a national effort, as I just mentioned, created by the United States Congress through unanimous legislation in both the House and Senate in October of 2000. That law had original signatories numbering over 238 members of Congress. And their idea then, as well as what we continue to do today, is to work with people like you and your listeners all across the country to collect information, preserve and share the firsthand experiences of U.S. military veterans, those who served from World War I through the more recent conflicts. At the Library of Congress, it is also already an archive of over 121,000 individual collections of those veterans, in their own words, absolutely unfiltered. And it's an opportunity for anyone hearing me or learning about the Veterans History Project to participate in gathering these stories and making history themselves by participating in the Veterans History Project at the Library of Congress.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've gone in and I've read a few of them. And it's really neat to do this. So let's also touch on what we mentioned at the beginning, that this is the 50th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War. And so what are you specifically doing to commemorate that?
SPEAKER 04 :
50th anniversary of the conclusion and this opportunity to understand this milestone is something that we've been working towards for many years. We're fortunate to work directly with the National Vietnam Veterans Commemorative Commission. They worked all across the country and gathered 800 interviews just through their singular effort of Vietnam War era veterans. And that was a really great start to us being able to share those stories and use those to gather more stories. So we have also really wonderful special focus Vietnam collections in an online set of exhibits on our website, which is locforlibraryofcongress.gov for government.gov. forward slash VETS, V-E-T-S for veterans, so L-O-C dot gov forward slash VETS. There you can find absolutely unmediated raw collections of these Vietnam veterans, but also some curated exhibits. And what I mean by that is we're not messing with what they say or what they contributed. It's what they want to share. Put them together in a way that helps you connect to the through lines of their story. So one of them is in-country stories from the Vietnam War. Another is personal snapshots picturing the Vietnam War through their photographs, their eyes literally at the moments that they were there. And Vietnam War looking back, more of a retrospective. So with this and with partners... partnering organizations all across the country. We're doing what we can to really put a focus and a highlight now on these Vietnam veterans' stories and the importance of collecting them.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what's so neat, I think, about the way you collect it? A lot of people that are a little bit older-ish sometimes, like my mom, for instance, she would be intimidated by, oh, how do I do this? Do I log on? I don't have a computer. What do you mean log on? But you have this VHP field kit that I've looked at that you can fill out as a PDF document. But if you're blind, they have Braille. If you can't hear well, they have options for you to be able to share your story so that you aren't eliminated from sharing because of some unique, you know, ability or I would call it, it's not really a disability. It's differently abled. You know what I mean? Like anyone can do this and you can always get help from a family member as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
absolutely i love you calling out not only do we have braille but we have audio described for those who would like that help that's available on the website you can also call us directly you can leave a message sometimes we're able to actually pick up the phone we continue to print the field kit you can call us or have someone email us we will send it out to you in that amazing thing called postal delivery you will receive the field kit in your hands sometimes it's easier to talk to a family member about contributing their story when you can show them this tangible paper. You can show them the release form that ensures that they keep their copyright. You can show them the other archival forms that we need to fill out to ensure their story is told correctly. There's a biographical data form that gathers the information from a DD-214, so you know that your story as the veteran is being told in this raw, unmediated fashion and you're sharing it the way you intend it to be shared. So yeah, absolutely. Please call us. Please visit the website. We want to make this as accessible for participation as possible.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, as I mentioned to you, some interviews stand out to me. I just interviewed a veterinarian that worked for the Rolling Stones when he was young, and Keith Richards told him to do something with his life, and now he's my vet, and he just wrote a book. That stands out to me. Or you talking to me about the Veterans History Project, or my friend who's blind who's written 60 books, and he's done nine movies, and he said, I make movies I can't see, and I write books I can't read. Those stand out. Now, Now for you, you have all these stories. I know they're all amazing in their own right because everyone has a story, but any that you can give us a little snippet of that really touched you or stand out to you?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, it's so hard always to answer that question because We have so many. There's 121,000, and I like to say my favorite story is the one you're about to send in because it's true. But it's also true that while we're commemorating the end of the Vietnam War, there have been some that have been playing on my mind a little bit more recently, including Jack Danner, Jr., who was deployed with the 1st Cavalry Division in 1965. He helped establish Camp Radcliffe before then serving as an advisor to the South Vietnamese Battalion. His collection really stands out to me because it includes vivid photographs from Operation White Wing Masher. I really, really appreciate the chance to delve in and see photographs from the eyes of the people who were there. Operation White Wing Masher was a large search and destroy mission, and it shaped his view of the war, and you can see that yourself when you get to his collection. Again, you can search that just by putting his name in our database on our website, loc.gov forward slash vets. And then, of course, there's Ray Marie. Ray Marie left. She was a nurse aboard the USS Repose, and she treated soldiers airlifted straight from the battlefield. Her photos document a harrowing and deeply human series of moments aboard the hospital ship. These stories weave together most compellingly because they're about humanity and sacrifice and bonds in this mission of purpose that lasts a lifetime. They help us understand not just what happened in the moment in Vietnam, but how that shaped the men and women who served and then how we are connected to that.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then people can read these, they can listen to some of them, right? Some of these are the actual vets' recordings of them?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, absolutely. Of our 121,000 and growing collections, over 80% of them, if you go into our database, you're not just reading a snippet or hearing a snippet you're going in and you're hearing the whole thing unedited completely raw what it was they wanted to say what it was they wanted the world to witness whether that's letters diaries photographs or the actual audio and video interviews, if we were able to gather those, if people across the country were able to gather those.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, Monica, I want credit for this idea, okay? I want to do this for you. I want to do a podcast where I would share all of these veterans' stories, and then you'd cut snippets, obviously, of their interviews, just news style, so it would be like, you know, kind of the way Dateline does it, so we'd introduce someone, and then we'd share some of their story, and then I would talk and give some of their background. I think that would be an amazing podcast.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let's do it. I love it.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love Nancy.
SPEAKER 07 :
People would listen because I listen to this history podcast. It's like history made fun or something. It's just like, I can't remember the name of it, but it's like reenactments or like real life stories. And I find that so interesting where it's the real story of someone in the Wild West that... like the lady in the camp that did all the laundry because she didn't want to be that other kind of lady in the gold mine camp, you know what I mean? So I don't know. I just love hearing about history. So thank you so much for what you're doing to preserve these memories. Obviously, the Vietnam vets, not just the anniversary now, but the fact that they're getting older and we want to catch these stories while they're still here is really important. So give us that contact info again one more time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Please visit us at loc.gov. forward slash vets, V-E-T-S. So that's libraryofcongressloc.gov, government, forward slash vets, V-E-T-S for veterans.
SPEAKER 07 :
I highly recommend checking it out. Thank you so much for joining us again, Monica.
SPEAKER 04 :
I really appreciate it, Angie. Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
You betcha. Well, just so fun to talk to Monica again. Okay, so obviously I think this is important to preserve these stories, but not just to preserve these war stories, but family stories as well. I know some people are interested in putting together those family trees or doing their DNA testing and figuring out who they're related to, but I also like getting the stories of family members Um, I've asked grandpa, um, my father-in-law if he would share some, they're not really that interested in it, but maybe if I can get Riley to ask him, he might, cause he and Riley talk a lot. And maybe it would be nice if Riley could say, Hey, could we preserve some of your history? And could mom and I interview you, grandpa, my father-in-law, I did do some interviews with my dad and I cherish them. I sent two of them to my, uh, my stepmom not so long ago and she said it was like he was in the room that it was so wonderful to hear him and i've done several with my mom because i've toyed with the idea at times of writing a book and been told many times wow your your story your family history is pretty difficult you should write a book about this you know like overcoming or beating the odds or whatever it may be And so I have done quite a few interviews with my mom, which reminds me I need to start doing that again. And so I've saved the files on my computer. So if I do ever decide to write a book, I can have them. The hard thing with my mom is a lot of her memories are really painful. And oftentimes there's not like a positive lesson out of that. But I guess for my mom would just be survival. You know, for my dad, it was, you know, overcoming his alcoholism. He was an abusive alcoholic. and overcoming that to really do something with his life and really make something of his life. It's so impressive what his siblings, six of them, came out of the Depression, and they all were able to, without really parents, some of the siblings had to raise other siblings, that they all went, you know... universities and, you know, higher education was something each of them achieved. Teachers, a nurse, head engineer on the Hoover Dam. My dad had his PhD. So really impressive, you know, what they were able to do with their lives. So I wish I would have saved more of their stories. But some of them passed away before I really was, you know, doing this type of thing, radio, where I do a lot of recordings and a lot of interviews. TV was a little bit different. Although now with iPhones, you can record anybody, anywhere, anytime. So think about that. Think about recording maybe even your own for your own grandkids or your own children. I think that'd be a cool idea. Maybe I should think about doing that myself for my kids. All right. Thanks so much for listening to the good news. It was a lot of fun.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
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I love that Lincoln said, with malice towards none, with charity towards all, But I hear Donald Trump say with malice towards everybody that does not tell me how great I am. And charity, I don't know if he understands that, what it means to show sympathy and compassion and empathy and to help people whether they like you or not.
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All right, New Jersey Senator Cory Booker has been on the Senate floor since 7 p.m. last night in opposition to the Trump administration's policy. We're going to talk about that in just a moment. Although Senator Booker's remarks don't technically amount to a filibuster, since he's not blocking a specific bill, they could slow the Senate's plan to advance its budget resolution. So that's the next step in the budget reconciliation process. We'll talk with Oklahoma Senator James Lankford about what this could mean for the Senate's agenda. Meanwhile, the House abruptly adjourned today after nine Republicans voted with Democrats on a procedural measure.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it's a very disappointing result on the floor there. A handful of Republicans joined with all the Democrats to take down a rule that's rarely done. It's very unfortunate in this case. 96% of House Republicans voted against proxy voting because they believe it's unconstitutional and they agree that it would open a Pandora's box. And so that's what we just saw.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was House Speaker Mike Johnson outside the House chamber earlier this afternoon. Those nine Republicans supported a proposal that would allow proxy voting for new mothers and fathers. A noble goal, but one that raises larger questions about proxy voting in general. Texas Congressman Nathaniel Moran will join us to discuss the potential ramifications.
SPEAKER 09 :
Southwest border crossings in March fell to the lowest level in American history, down 94 percent from March of last year, under President Biden, when 137,000 illegal aliens poured across our wide-open southern border. Thanks to President Trump's leadership, Border Patrol agents are now back to doing the jobs they signed up for, securing the border, rather than serving as travel agents for illegal aliens.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt announcing a record low rate of illegal border crossings. That's right, a record low. If there's a will, there's a way. We'll hear more from Texas Senator John Cornyn on why this drop isn't surprising and what it means going forward. And over in the Senate Judiciary Committee, Chairman Chuck Grassley has introduced legislation to end the practice of nationwide injunctions by federal judges. He'll join us later to explain the Judicial Relief Clarification Act of 2025 and why he believes it's urgently needed. And finally, we'll hear from David Claussen, director of the FRC Center for Biblical Worldview, on his new book, Life After Roe, which releases today. Well, before we dive in, a quick reminder, the seventh episode of God and Government is also out this week, exclusively on the Stand Firm app. It explores how Christians can engage in public policy debates when right and wrong, well, they've become subjective. You can find out how to navigate in today's policy world. Get access by texting the word COURSE to 67742. That's COURSE to 67742. All right, we've got a full lineup, so let's get started. Joining us now from the United States Senate, Senator James Lankford, a member of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, the Finance Committee, and the Select Committee on Intelligence. He represents the state of Oklahoma. Senator Lankford, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to see you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Always great to see you, Tony. Thanks for the work that you do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, let's let's start by talking about it's not yet a record, but I think we're 19 hours into not technically a filibuster, but one of your colleagues, Cory Booker, maintaining control of the Senate floor in opposition to the policies of the Trump administration.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it's interesting. He's actually coming in opposition to things like we now have record low immigration, illegal immigration numbers coming across the border. We're getting control of our spending, starting to be able to reduce some of the waste in government. And we have a tax bill that we're trying to start the debate on that will actually prevent a massive tax increase on the American people. This tax bill actually has a deadline. It expires in December of this year. And if we don't act, We will have taxes go up on every single American, every single person that's right now watching or listening to your program, their taxes will go up. And Senator Booker is in apparently strong opposition to that. He wants us to see the tax increases go up. Tax rates go up. We do not on it. So this is kind of a side by side differences between where we are right now as political parties and where we are as Americans.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, the plan, as of yesterday, was to advance the Budget Resolution Act in the Senate. That would trigger 50 hours of debate. Is that still going to happen this week, or is Senator Booker's kind of commandeering of the Senate floor going to throw off that schedule?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, we're still going to do that. So it's 50 hours of debate, but it's actually 25 and 25. So it's split Republicans and Democrats. We will just yield all of our time back and get straight to the votes on it. People are not tracking and watching all the ongoing debate leading up to it either way on it. They know our arguments. They know where we stand on this, that we want to be able to have a good tax policy for small businesses, individual rates that stay actually affordable. We've had high inflation for the last four years. We can't have a huge jump in tax rates on top of that. So they know where we stand on that. So we'll try to get to the vote as quickly as we can. Once this vote starts, as you know, that's what they call a voter Rama. It sounds fun, but it's not. It's just endless amendments one after another. We'll keep going through that until we're done. Thursday could be Saturday, but we're determined. We're just gonna keep
SPEAKER 15 :
I want to talk about a measure that you introduced yesterday along a House version of it from Congressman Mark Harris. But before I do that, one more question. As we look at the budget resolution which sets up the reconciliation, that has to go through the parliamentarian, and there's an area – of that an argument is being made by Republicans in the Senate that the tax cuts are simply the baseline. So the expiration of tax cuts and the revenue that that would generate should not be counted when the parliamentarian looks at the fiscal impact of this. Explain that and tell us where that stands.
SPEAKER 14 :
So whenever you start a budget debate, the first thing you have to start is, what's the baseline? Where are we starting from? When you start counting numbers, for us, most of the time, we start from zero. So we're zero, one, two, three, four. But when you're doing tax or budget, we're not at zero. There's already debt that's happening. There's already spending and everything that's happening. So you have to figure out, where is the spot we're going to start from on this? the law actually the 1974 budget act says that actually the budget committee sets what it is so there's three different groups that could set the baseline one is called joint tax it's an outside committee one is called the congressional budget office outside group or it could be set by the chairman of the budget committee It's typically done by the Congressional Budget Office. We're saying we want to actually have the budget chairman do this this time. And so it's in the statute that it's allowed. And for this strange reason, this has become this big debate to say, just because typically it's done by one of the other two doesn't mean it has to. The law allows any of the three to be able to set the baseline. We're saying the baseline of where we should begin is where the law is today. That doesn't seem that complicated to me to say the law today says here's where where we're going with the current policy. Let's just if current policy were to continue, what would that look like?
SPEAKER 15 :
Seems to make sense. I mean, this is what we're working with today. So going forward, if we just assume that we are where we are, I mean, it's it's just basically carving a path out going forward.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And it's a Washington, D.C. argument. No one outside of D.C. is really going to track this day to day on this. But it is important. when you're doing any kind of accounting to be able to know what zero point. So I do understand the accounting side of it. But quite frankly, most folks are not going to be able to track that. What we're trying to do is we're going to follow the law. We're going to do what the law allows. But we're also going to be able to set a policy decision that I'm sure Democrats are going to argue with and say last time they picked a different arbitrator. Fine on that. They did what the law allowed. We're doing what the law allows as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, that's a really big question to be answered because that's going to really shape this debate going forward. If the parliamentarian says, no, you can't take where you stand today as the starting point, that's going to, I think, set Republicans back significantly, will it not?
SPEAKER 14 :
It would, but I don't think it's going to be an issue because, again, the law is pretty clear on this. Okay, very good. All right. So we'll see what the parliamentarian says, but there's not a big argument about the law.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. Very good. Well, let's go to something else you and I passionately care about. And that is the ability of pastors to preach the word of God as it applies to the issues of our day, including politics. You care about that as one who's been in the ministry. And so you have introduced the Free Speech Fairness Act. Talk about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, pastors should be able to preach the Word of God. They should not have to worry about an IRS agent sitting in their congregation monitoring their speech to make sure they don't mention something in politics in their sermon. That's absurd. We're the United States of America. Pastors have First Amendment rights just like every single American has First Amendment rights. Why we even discuss this at all is because decades ago something was added to the IRS rules called the Johnson Amendment. that says if a church endorses some political candidate, and again, that's up to the interpretation of the IRS agent, what that actually means, then they could actually have IRS take away their nonprofit status. Churches often live in fear of something that has literally never happened to any church, but they just live in fear of that. So it restrains their speech. So all I'm trying to do is be able to clarify and say pastors have the same free speech rights as everyone else. Now, I don't believe pastors should preach politics all the time. I think they should talk about Jesus and salvation and the goodness and grace of God all the time. I think that should be their obsession to be able to talk about. But when things like abortion come up or marriage comes up or so many other things, or when there's an election coming and they encourage people to go vote or say there's an obvious candidate here that shares our values, they shouldn't be restrained from that either. And so this gives the opportunity for people to just freely speak as every other American.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, the Word of God speaks to practically every aspect of life. And so when those issues are touched upon in the Scripture, we need to be able to preach freely upon them. Now, I had Congressman Mark Harris on yesterday, as I mentioned. He's a pastor, and something that happens very frequently are those on the left that want to silence biblical truth. They will send out letters to pastors right before an election saying, if you violate this IRS law, you could lose your tax exemption. And so there's a lack of clarity, as you alluded to, and it has the effect of self-censoring the pulpit.
SPEAKER 14 :
It does. And again, it tries to make churches and church leaders live in fear of their own government as if they don't have First Amendment protections. Quite frankly, churches that are more left-leaning, they talk about politics all the time. They endorse candidates all the time. and don't live in fear of the irs because there's a belief that they have they're not going to come after us we're on the left it's only going to come after churches on the right on that we need to be able to make sure this is very clear the irs doesn't have the authority to go monitor the speech of pastors and the church leaders let's have them do tax collection that's what their job is not monitoring free speech
SPEAKER 15 :
Final question for you, Senator Langford. The House, I've spoken to the speaker about this. The majority leader feel pretty confident this will come out of the House successfully. You're going to need Democratic support in the Senate. Do you think you can find Democrats that will support the freedom of the pulpit?
SPEAKER 14 :
I have not found it yet. And it's a very interesting thing because even folks that are here that are on the left that come out of a ministry background as well, kind of like the opportunity for the government to be able to reach in and to be able to dictate that. So we're working to be able to have a coalition in saying this is a basic constitutional freedom. As you know, there are many churches that for years have actually recorded a message, endorsed a candidate, mailed it to the IRS and say, I dare you to go to court because they want it to go to court. People just want it to be resolved. It's clearly unconstitutional. It's just a bully pulpit that's out there, just a bully stick out there to go after the pulpit.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, Senator, thanks for joining us. Stick with us, folks. We're back after this.
SPEAKER 07 :
At Family Research Council, we believe religious freedom is a fundamental human right that all governments must protect. That's why FRC President Tony Perkins went to Capitol Hill to testify on behalf of persecuted Christians in Nigeria. Islamist terror groups target Christians and other religious minorities in Nigeria with brutal violence. Representative Chris Smith, who chaired the hearing, said 55,000 people have been killed and 21,000 abducted in the last five years alone. The congressman also stressed that 89% of Christians in the world who are martyred are from Nigeria.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yet the government of Nigeria has failed to make progress against religiously motivated persecution of Christians despite religious freedom being enshrined as an essential human right in their constitution.
SPEAKER 07 :
Tony Perkins called for the United States to send an unmistakable message.
SPEAKER 15 :
This is systematic religious violence. Nigeria must be redesignated a country of particular concern. The Biden administration's removal of this designation was a reckless mistake that emboldened the very terrorists who are slaughtering Christians.
SPEAKER 07 :
Redesignating Nigeria will enable the U.S. government to pressure Nigerian leaders to protect vulnerable Christians.
SPEAKER 15 :
These are not just numbers. These are fathers, their mothers, their children, their families.
SPEAKER 07 :
Bishop Wilfred Anagabe risked his life to speak out, sharing firsthand accounts of the danger faced in his church district in central Nigeria.
SPEAKER 02 :
We live in fear because at any point it can be our turn to be killed, but to remain silent is to die twice. So, I have chosen to speak.
SPEAKER 07 :
FRC is calling on President Trump to act now to promote religious freedom around the globe and speak up on behalf of Christians in Nigeria.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 15 :
Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in on this Tuesday. All right. The House of Representatives adjourned earlier today, earlier than originally anticipated, due to a fight within the Republican caucus that just boiled over into public. The issue has caused this unexpected adjournment is the issue of proxy voting. Now, you may recall the proxy voting system was widely used during COVID. Nancy Pelosi put that into place, but Republicans actually took it to court. The court sidestepped it, saying it was up to the Congress. But there are serious constitutional questions about proxy voting. Now, there's been a measure. There was a measure put forward to allow new parents to vote by proxy, which sounds nice. But how do you draw the line just with new parents? What about someone who is ill or undergoing cancer treatment or you name it? Well, the House Republican leadership was opposed to it, but nine Republicans joined with the Democrats to It's a procedural vote, but to take down a rule that was put forward earlier today on the House floor. Joining me now to talk more about this, Congressman Nathaniel Moran, a member of the House Ways and Means Committee, the House Ethics Committee, and the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party. He represents the 1st Congressional District of Texas. Congressman Moran, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 10 :
Tony, it's great to be with you. Unfortunately, under these circumstances where Frankly, we have shot ourselves in the foot here in the House of Representatives and done ourselves a disservice and done the people of America a disservice.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's talk about the measure we're discussing. There was a member of Congress put forward a measure that would allow parents, I think it was at 12 weeks, 6 or 12 weeks, to have proxy voting after having a child, both fathers and mothers.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it was a proxy voting proposition put up by a Republican member. It's for 12 weeks, not just if you had a baby, but if your spouse had a baby. So it's both for male and female to access. And in the history of the United States, we have not allowed proxy voting up until Nancy Pelosi did it during the pandemic a few years ago. We didn't allow proxy voting after 9-11, not during the Spanish flu epidemic of of 1918, not during the Civil War or the War of 1812, you can go through the list. We never allowed it. Why? Because the Constitution is firm in its regard to getting together physically and being present physically with one another to deliberate and decide the important matters of the American people. So proxy voting is not a constitutional issue. I mean, it's not a constitutionally permitted avenue to go, and it certainly is not a conservative viewpoint. Here's the real problem. We cannot allow our sympathetic propositions to supplant constitutional principles, and that's what's going on here.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I mean, look, you're tugging at people's heartstrings. And look, we're the Family Research Council. We know how important it is for that bonding of parent and child. But we also know if you signed up to run for Congress and you were elected to Congress, you have a constitutional obligation to represent the people that you were elected to represent and to do so in a way that's consistent with the Constitution. So let me ask you a question that I posed at the beginning of this segment. How do you draw the line at new parents?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you don't. And Mike Johnson made this point in conference. He said, look, if you accept this and allow new parents to provide for proxy voting with a new child, then there is no limiting principle. And where does it stop? Is it somebody next going to say, well, I have an illness that's going to prevent me from being there, or I've had a car accident, or I have something important to do at home? Under those circumstances, where does it end? And there is a slippery slope. Once it begins, there is no end to that. And ultimately, we are going to take away what is the important nature of being together physically. If you look back at the Constitution, it mentions words like meeting and assemble and attendance and present and sitting and seat. It uses physical words to talk about us getting together to deliberate and decide the important matters of the legislative body.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. So explain kind of what happened this afternoon and why. I mean, we talked about the substance, but let's talk about process. What happened and why Congress has adjourned for the rest of the week?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, we have a process where we're going to adopt a rule, which is the procedural guidelines for voting on substantive matters to follow. And this was that procedural vote ahead of a number of very important substantive matters. And here's the thing I think the American people need to realize about what happened today is Now we have a number of really important bills that we cannot vote on this week that were planned. A couple of them really, really important. The SAVE Act by Chip Roy that would help to ensure that we only have citizens voting in national elections. We have a bill by Darrell Issa to rein in these rogue federal district judges that are trying to do these nationwide injunctions. Those were bills that we were gonna vote on this week that were part of this rule that we can no longer vote on this week. Hopefully we can bring it back in the future, but who knows, all over this desire to allow proxy voting. And as you said, we just had a handful of Republicans joining all the Democrats. And here's the other problem with that is that we effectively let emotion trump logic in this debate. And when that happens, we simply become liberal policymakers. That's how liberals make decisions. Conservatives should make decisions based on logic, principles, and the Constitution, not emotion.
SPEAKER 15 :
So in order, just for the benefit of our viewers and listeners, in order for votes to take place on the House floor, you have to have a rule in place. Nine Republicans joined with Democrats to take down that rule. Therefore, there can be no vote on these legislative matters. So you regroup, come back next week, and what, try it again?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, hopefully there's some discussion between now and then between the Republican representative that's pushing this and the leadership to help cool temperatures a little bit, but we'll see. And, you know, as we look back at how this even came about, it was through a discharge petition which circumvents the ordinary course of of deliberation and debate, it skipped committee. And this representative was offered an opportunity to take her bill to committee, to the Judiciary Committee, to the Constitutional Subcommittee, have a hearing, go through regular order, the amendments process, and bring it before the body using that method. And she simply declined to do that. I thought that was a fair offer.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, Congressman, it sounds like Some of the Republicans need to have a conversation with their colleagues about derailing the agenda of the American people. Nathaniel, always great to see you. Thanks so much for taking time to join us today.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks, Tony. Have a great evening.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. You too. All right. On the other side of the break, Senator John Cornyn joins me with some good news about the southern border and just how little illegal immigration is taking place at the southern border. Can you believe it? We've actually hit a record low after hitting record highs. We're now at a record low, which says to me, if there's a will, there's a way. Don't go away. We're back after this.
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SPEAKER 15 :
Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us. Let me remind you, it is out, the seventh episode of our God and Government series. You can get it only on the Stand Firm app. So make sure you have the Stand Firm app. Go to the App Store, download the Stand Firm app. where you can listen to Washington Watch. You can also get our news feed, our news and commentary feed, the Washington Stand, as well as my daily devotional, Stand on the Word. So if you don't have it, text the word course to 67742 so you can have access to the God and Government course. I'll send you a link. Earlier today, White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt announced some good news that would have been unthinkable during the Biden administration. The news? Illegal immigration at the southern border was down, are you ready for this, 94% from this March to last March. As one unnamed DHS source told the New York Post, these illegals are scared. There are consequences now. What does this say? It says that if you want to do something, you can do something. This whole thing that what we saw for four years at the southern border was by design. Joining me now to talk more about this, Senator John Cornyn from the great state of Texas. Senator Cornyn is a member of the Judiciary Committee and the Foreign Relations Committee. Senator Cornyn, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Thanks, Tony. So this is big news, and it does reveal that if there's a will, there's a way.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. We didn't need to pass any more laws. We just needed a president who would enforce the law. And that's exactly what President Trump has done. And as you point out in your introduction, you talked about consequences. That's one of the things that the Border Patrol would always tell me during the Biden administration was lacking. There were no consequences to coming to the country outside of legal channels. And also, I would say that we're seeing some deterrence. That is, people who know that they're not going to be allowed into the country absent a legally valid claim aren't coming. And that's had a dramatic impact.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, Senator, the president has been citing the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 as his legal backing to deport dangerous gang members like MS-13. In fact, I think it was Sunday night, he sent another 17 people identified as violent criminals to El Salvador. If I'm not mistaken, there are some on the other side of the aisle, Democratic members of the Senate, that are trying to take that authority away from the president to crack down on what has been happening at our southern border.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's hard to imagine, because if there's people who certainly we do not want in the United States, it's hardened criminals, and particularly those under final orders of deportation. There have been roughly a million and a half, maybe more, immigrants who are in the country who have had final orders of deportation, but the Biden administration simply refused to send them back home. That's changing now, but certainly the Biden administration and Tom Homan, the head of ICE, is focusing on the worst of the worst, and that's who you're talking about here.
SPEAKER 15 :
Have you seen a noticeable difference in Texas? I mean, Texas is a border state. This is where a lot of these folks are coming across. Have you seen a noticeable difference in Texas?
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. It's been dramatic. And of course, to your point, it has been the border of Texas, 1,200 miles of common border with Mexico, that has borne the burden, the principal responsibility to deal with what is actually a federal government responsibility. Governor Abbott and Texas leadership have had to step up and fill the gap and to do the federal government's job because the Biden administration refused to do so. But now, as a result of the enforcement efforts of President Trump and his administration and the continued efforts of the Texas leadership, we're seeing the kind of dramatic decreases in immigration that you've mentioned.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. I need to ask you this question, Senator Cornyn, because as you've laid out, this was President Trump taking the authority that he had and using, looking for the authority under the Constitution and federal law. But Joe Biden had that same authority. He just didn't use it. He didn't want to use it. What can Congress do that would ensure that that southern border remains secure, regardless of who's in the White House?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, the first thing we can do is provide the funds that Tom Homan needs, the border czar, and this administration to provide for detention facilities and for additional personnel. Because you can imagine this is a very labor-intensive job, identifying these immigrants who are illegally in the country and then detaining them and then sending them back to their home country. But we need to, in order to actually make this permanent, we may need to consider additional legislation. Most of this is occurring under an executive order, which would expire at the end of President Trump's term. And in fact, that's what happened the first time, is all the executive orders that President Trump put in place, President Biden withdrew all those and created the open border. I guess more than anything, Tony, that what we need to do is to elect presidents who take their job in the law seriously, because we didn't have that under Joe Biden.
SPEAKER 15 :
Just about 30 seconds left. But if you did have the law and a president did not enforce the law, could not Congress then take action against that president for not enforcing the law?
SPEAKER 12 :
It would be extraordinary, but I think warranted when we have a sort of invasion of humanity coming in. And so there are things we could do. For example, impeachment is something that's provided in the Constitution if presidents aren't doing their job.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, right. Senator John Cornyn, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, when we come back, a part of the equation here, the courts, courts being used to stop the president's agenda with nationwide injunctions. And we're going to talk with the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee next.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. All right. Since President Trump took office in January, more injunctions have been filed by federal judges against President Trump than any president in history. One of the more controversial injunctions includes one from a Washington, D.C., district judge who sought to prevent President Trump from deporting dangerous criminals who were part of foreign gangs. Now, what's happening here is that these injunctions are coming from district court judges, and instead of applying to their district, they're applying it universally for the entire nation. This is an unprecedented use of misuse, I would say, of their judicial power. Therefore, Congress, which has authority over the lower courts because the lower courts are a creation by the Congress, they are clarifying this. And one of the measures that's been introduced, introduced yesterday by Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa, who is the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is the Judicial Relief Clarification Act, which would put an end to this judicial activism. And he joins us now by phone. Senator Grassley, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm glad to be with you. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, Senator. So I think I laid it out what the need is for your bill, but provide a little more context as to how urgent this legislation is needed to clarify the scope of the court's authority.
SPEAKER 11 :
The urgency of it is, and my bill brings attention to the issue and how these national injunctions have been used to fight President Trump's agenda. And so we have 600 or 700 district court judges. They serve in 93 different districts encompassing all of the United States. And when you have a national injunction in a California district, that means that that judge is making his decision nationwide to stop the president from doing what he thinks he should do as a result of his election and carrying out that election. And in the final analysis, this judge, one out of 600 or 700, is a policymaker instead of being a judge interpreting law. So my legislation would stop district judges from dictating national policy. It would limit judges to deciding cases and controversies. And the words cases and controversies come directly from the Constitution limiting what judges can do. So starting over again, it limits judges to deciding cases and controversies and the parties directly before them. and just having that interpretation applied to that single district court district and just to the parties and not any nationwide application. And to make sure that this sticks, we would strengthen and speed up the appeals process if either party wanted to take it higher up.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, that actually has been the tradition. Usually, that's what has been the case, that these decisions are rendered for the parties that are before the court affecting only that district. Am I correct? Yes. And so it's highly... unusual that we see the courts taking such far-reaching actions. I mean, the only thing we're left to assume here, Senator Grassley, is that this is, as you pointed out, judges who are legislating, judges who are trying to stop the agenda of President Trump and the Republicans.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. So far, this bill has been introduced just by roughly 21 Republicans. It should get Democratic support because we had an effort made in the Biden administration by at least 243 Democrat members of Congress, Republican and Senate, saying the same thing I'm saying, how this was being abused. right by then i suppose republican judges in the biden administration to stop the biden agenda right so we should get bipartisan support but i'll bet you we won't because the democrats are using this tool very effectively
SPEAKER 15 :
You are correct in that this is something that cuts both ways. We saw this, not to the degree that we are seeing it now, but we did see it during the Biden administration. It's kind of venue shopping. You get a judge that is going to be inclined with kind of your position, and hopefully you can get a broader ruling or injunction from the judge. Again, it cuts both ways. You're right. You should have Democratic support for this, but I think you're also correct. It'll be unlikely that you will get it. So give us the timeline. You're obviously the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, so you're going to get a hearing in the committee. Do you think this will make its way to the Senate floor anytime soon?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think we have all Republicans on board. There's a couple that have sponsored other bills, but I think in the end we get them all on board. So we have the hearing tomorrow. We will put it on the agenda. I assume we'll put it on the agenda the next Wednesday. It can be automatically carried over for a week, so it will probably be after the recess of Congress. And there is one other thing that is a factor here, if the Supreme Court could do it. The Supreme Court writes rules of civil procedure. And there's a process for them to put a stop to this by amending the rules of civil procedure, and it works this way. They have to submit them to Congress for our disapproval. So if we don't disapprove of them, they automatically go into effect. And with the Congress the way it is right now, if Chief Justice Roberts would decide to do this, I can guarantee you that this would be handled much more effectively and probably with more strength behind it, I mean more prestige behind it, if the Supreme Court would do this on their own. But we can't wait to see whether the Supreme Court will do something. So let's say in 240 years the Supreme Court's never done anything on this, Maybe they won't. So that's why Congress can act.
SPEAKER 15 :
And it is under the authority of the Congress. The Congress creates lower courts according to the Constitution. So it's certainly within the purview of Congress to take these actions. Senator Grassley, always great to talk with you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 11 :
Keep up your good work there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Goodbye. Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. So there was a similar bill in the House, Congressman Daryl Ice of California. That was to have a hearing this week in the Judiciary Committee, actually a vote this week. But that's not going to happen as a result of the House having to adjourn. So we'll watch it. It is important. It's an important measure. It's something that... needs to happen, restricting the reach of the court, the overreach of the courts. One of the issues that's very important here at the Family Research Council, because it's fundamental, is the issue of life. And of course, we've talked a lot about that, especially since the overturn of Roe v. Wade in the wake of the Dobbs decision. And we've continued to discuss that issue, even though many Republicans, especially in the year or two right after that, running from the issue. But we need to know how to address this life issue. It's a spiritual issue. Before, it's a political issue. And it has significant ramifications for our culture. And it's so important that we get this right. And we got to begin from a biblical perspective. And I want to bring in David Clawson, who is the director of our Center for Biblical Worldview here at the Family Research Council, because he has a new book out. today called Life After Roe, Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today. The book takes a comprehensive look at the pro-life issue biblically, theologically, historically, and politically. And joining me now to talk about that is the author himself, David Klaus. And David, welcome back to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, great to be with you, Tony. Thank you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, I know this is actually a book you've been working on for over two years. Let me just ask you first the question of what was the motivation for you to write this book, and what do you hope readers will take away?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely, Tony. And again, I want to thank you for your gracious endorsement of the book. And I interviewed you as well, along with other major pro-life leaders. So your comments are in the sixth chapter. But I think really, Tony, the Lord put it on my heart beginning really on May 2nd, 2022. So we all remember, of course, the Dobbs decision came down on June 24th. But about six or seven weeks before then is when Justice Alito's opinion was leaked. And I happened to be near the court, and I was probably one of the first people to gather at the court once that leaked opinion came down. And it just reminded me afresh, Tony, the spiritual warfare around this issue. And so, of course, we've engaged on this issue since then. And to answer the question directly, I really felt the Lord calling me to write a book that could educate, equip, and encourage. We've done a lot of worldview research with George Barnum, and the church is not monolithic on this issue, Tony. Only 63% of regular churchgoers identify as pro-life. About 23% identify as pro-choice, and another 15% don't know where they stand. But what's encouraging is that 71%, according to the study we did with George Barna, desire more training from their church. So most Christians want to learn more. So my hope is this book will educate. I also want to equip. There's a lot of new challenges, Tony. Chemical abortion, state constitutional referendums. other issues. So I want to equip and I want to encourage. I interviewed about a dozen state lawmakers around the country who passed courageous pro-life bills in the aftermath of Roe v. Wade overturning. So that's the goal, Tony, educate, equip, and encourage.
SPEAKER 15 :
David, why do you think pastors are, not all, I want to be very careful, but some pastors, many pastors maybe, are hesitant to preach or teach on the topic of abortion.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think mainly there's a lot of pastors, Tony, especially younger ones, so millennial pastors, guys that I went to seminary with, don't want to be perceived as being too political. And what's really interesting, I mentioned that research we did with George Barna, one year after Roe was overturned, only 44% of regular churchgoers told us that they had heard a sermon or teaching on the life issue in the 12 months since Roe was overturned. Tony, that astounded me. And then the 12 months after Roe was overturned, everyone had an opinion. The NBA put out a statement. The NFL put out a statement. Everyone in America had an opinion except a lot of pastors, apparently, only 44%. And so I think there's some fear there, Tony. I think there is some fear of man, fear of offending people. But what I'd argue in the book is the Bible is clear from cover to cover. There's a thus saith the Lord. Now, there's some issues, Tony, we can agree to disagree on. On the life issue, we don't have to guess what God's opinion is. We have Psalm 139. We have Luke chapter 1, verses 39 through 45. So my encourage to brother pastors is that they would speak the truth clearly as revealed in Scripture.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. And I think when you look at Scripture and you go through that in the book, Our position about the sanctity of human life is not built on one passage of Scripture. We see this thread of the sanctity of human life woven throughout Scripture from beginning to end. Therefore, I mean, we see this and we can have confidence in taking this stand. And this is not a new issue for the church. I mean, you also point out in the book, in church history, what Christians have taught about abortion for 2,000 years.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tony, I've got to be honest, that might have been the most encouraging part of my research, spending hundreds of hours in the Library of Congress. You know, the church has been clear on this issue for 2,000 years. And why is that? Well, one is because the Bible is clear on it. But the very first moral instruction manual says, of the Didache from the first century clearly prohibits abortion. This is something that Christians ought not to have any involvement with. And really, Tony, kind of if you put every figure in church history from Christostom to Augustine to Aquinas, there's been one unbroken succession of voices. Again, whether you're Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic, There was just unbroken teaching on this until the 20th century. What happened? That's when theological liberalism began to rise in some denominations, in some churches, and those churches in the 1920s, 1930s began to kind of get embarrassed with the supernatural teachings of the Bible, the virgin birth, Jesus's miracles, literal resurrection. The churches that kind of overturned the Bible in the 1920s are the churches that changed their view on sexual ethics and abortion in the 1960s, 1970s. But even today, any denomination that has a high view of Scripture is crystal clear on the teaching of Scripture on this issue, Tony.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, David, before we run out of time here, how can folks pick up a copy of your new book?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, my understanding is you can just follow the links at TonyPerkins.com, but it's available wherever books are sold. You can go to Lifeway.com, B&H Academics, our publisher. And for listeners and viewers of Washington Watch, really grateful for my publisher, Tony. You can use actually the code WashingtonWatch, all one word, at checkout at Lifeway's website, and you get 40% off. So that's just a special gift from our publisher to viewers and listeners of this program.
SPEAKER 15 :
So it is entitled Life After Roe, Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today. And I would encourage you to get a copy of this because this issue is not going to go away. And we need to lead. You know, people are complaining about the politicians not taking positions. The spiritual leaders, Christians, have to lead the way and the political class will follow. David, final thought. We've got 20 seconds left. Final thought.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, my hope is that pastors, Christian leaders, and Christian parents, this is a book for discipleship and catechesis on, I think, what is the most pressing moral issue of our day. So again, Life After Roe, equipping Christians in the fight for life today. Pray that it serves the church and the body of Christ.
SPEAKER 15 :
David Clawson, great job. Thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you, Tony. And folks, I would echo, I do believe this is the pivotal issue. I know there are many, many other issues and we talk about those other issues, but this is at the core. It is the sanctity of human life because they're created in the image of God. You get that wrong and you're going to end up in the wrong place. Thanks for joining us today. We're out of time, but until next time, just keep standing.
SPEAKER 17 :
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