
Gain insights into casting your burdens on the Lord, as Rick Hughes explains the significance of relying on God during difficult times. Explore the difference between gnosis and epinosis, and learn to transform simple knowledge into life-changing wisdom that strengthens your faith. As you grow spiritually and develop profound trust in God, you can navigate life's challenges with peace, precision, and divine protection.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around. I have some good news for you. The greatest news that I could ever tell you is that God loves you. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life. That's great news. A holy God loves you. In spite of what you may have done, in spite of what you may be facing, God loves you. He loves all members of the human race, you included, me included, and that's great news. And the great news is you can love him back. God loves you. That's his love for you, and you can love him. You can reciprocate that love by growing in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And that's what this show is about. explaining how God's plan works. You know, the Bible says that God said in the book of Jeremiah, he said, I'm looking for those who know me and understand me. And there's a big difference between knowing God and understanding God. That's why we have these Bible classes on this radio show called The Flotline, to try to help you understand the God that you may already indeed know well. But do you understand the protocol involved? What does it mean a right thing must be done in a right way? Do you understand those unique problem-solving devices he provided for you, at least 10 that we can identify it? And that's what we build our main line of resistance upon. The flat line is your main line of resistance. those 10 unique problem-solving devices that God gave you. Learn them, orient and adjust to the plan, and see the phenomenal things that can happen. That's why this show is geared up this way. We have high IQ. Some have high IQ. Some have low IQ. But the IQ is not the issue. Spiritual IQ is the issue. When you take God's Word and learn it and use it in your life, apply it in your soul, When you begin to think with the mind of Christ, you develop a spiritual IQ. Romans 12.3 says, stop thinking of yourself in terms of arrogance beyond what you should think, but think in terms of humility as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word. His word, how should we think? Philippians 2.5, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. Our Lord Jesus Christ operated under these problem-solving devices, but he never needed to rebound any sin. And he wasn't occupied with himself, but he sure had the impersonal love for all mankind. He sure had personal love for his Father. He sure shared his happiness. He was oriented to the Word. He quoted the Word constantly. He was grace-oriented. He lived by faith. He walked under the filling of the Holy Spirit just like you do. So this is all amazing information for us. What happens is that people don't want it until they get in a crisis. When a crisis hits, people tend to want to look to God because they have no answers. And there's no doubt that in this day, the United States of America, the year 2020, is facing a crisis. People are scared to death. People are hoarding food, hoarding water, hoarding toilet paper. They're afraid they're going to die. They're afraid they're going to be stuck in their house forever. They're afraid they might not be able to eat. I don't know what they're afraid of. But if you know the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior, you never have to fear death because Satan is the one who makes you fear death. He can intimidate you and manipulate you by your fear of death. And you don't have to do that. The Bible clearly says the dead in Christ will rise first, and we which remain alive together will be with them in the air, so shall you evermore be with the Lord. This is at the exit resurrection, 1 Thessalonians 4. You can read about it yourself. When that whistle blows, when the Father says that's it, it's over, the Lord Jesus Christ will come and retrieve the church, the body of Christ. And if you are a believer that's still alive, and you'll just go through the ceiling. You'll just zap right on out of here. But if you've passed away, then you'll walk out of that grave in a resurrection body, a new body, a body you'll have forever and ever and ever. It's an amazing thing to understand. Come to knowledge, and it gives you great peace and great confidence in God's plan. So we must all understand the spiritual life if we ever hope to glorify God. If we don't prepare, then we don't have any recognition of what's going on, then we don't have any confidence and trust in God. Here's what the Bible says concerning what you're facing today as a Christian. How can you orient and adjust to that? Well, let's use this verse, Psalm 55, 22. Cast all your burdens on the Lord, and he will sustain you. He will never suffer the righteous to be moved. Now we start off with the word cast and the imperative mood verb of the word shalach in the Hebrew. Psalm 55, 22, shalach is cast. That's what it means. And I know something about casting. I'm a fisherman. And so when I'm fishing, I cast my rod and reel. Accurate casting is a requirement for a professional angler, and I'm not a professional angler. I could have been had I wanted to go in that direction, but that was a passion, not a priority. My spiritual gift of evangelism is my priority in my life, and it should be your priority too, whatever your spiritual gift is. The fishing is a passion for a lot of people, and we know how to cast without throwing it up in the tree, without hanging it up in the rocks, without bouncing it off the pier. We're accurate casters. I remember telling the church the other day, I was fishing with a friend of mine who could skip a worm under a boat dock. Like you would skip a flat rock, he could skip it under a boat dock with maybe only an inch or two clearance between the dock and the water and maybe catch a big fish up under that dock hiding. Well, I couldn't do it. I couldn't get it under there. I'd hit the dock or hit the water in front of the dock and it wouldn't go under there. So we finally came to a, a pier that had about eight or 10 inches between the bottom of the wood and the water. And he said, now that's a Ray Charles pier. And I thought, what's he talking about? Ray Charles pier. And you know, Ray Charles was blind. He said, that's a blind man. A blind man could throw under that pier. And he was right. I finally got it under that pier. But, you know, being able to accurately cast is important. And it's important for you to cast. This is a mandate from the original languages. cast all your burdens on the Lord. In this case, it's the faith-rested drill. In this case, in order for your faith to be effective, you've got to hit the target. If your faith doesn't hit the target, you're not effective. In this case, the target is God's universal provision of scripture. And you cannot hit what you cannot see. So we all depend on healthcare when necessary. But the doctor that we trust most is our loving Heavenly Father. So when you have a threat to your safety, when you have a threat to your security, cast all your burdens on the Lord. And he shall, absolutely 100%, he shall sustain you. He won't throw you under the bus. He won't abandon you. He will never suffer the righteous to be moved, the verse says. Proverbs 8, 17 says this, I love those who love me, and those who seek me early shall find me. So casting your cares on the Lord would be like you seeking him early. You get up in the morning and you... Thank him for a wonderful day and ask for his provisions and protection during that day and look for opportunities to reflect the love of Jesus Christ through your life to your neighbors, to your friends. In Job 5.22, at destruction and famine you shall laugh. Economic, health, social, even death, you can laugh at those destructions. Job was told this, and it's true. If you are a child of God, if you are growing spiritually, staying in fellowship and not under discipline from God for your sin, you can laugh at famine and destruction, economically, health-wise, social-wise. Because you have, as Psalm 55, 22 said, you have cast all your burdens on the Lord. That means it's not your responsibility. Worry is you assuming an unassigned responsibility. It is not your responsibility to worry about your life, to worry about your kids, to worry about this. The Lord handles that. It's his responsibility to protect you if you are his child. Cast all your burdens, the word says, yeehaw, yeehaw in the Hebrew. It means the things that you have been placed under, the responsibilities that you have been given. And you have been placed under a responsibility at this time in our country. maybe of quarantine, maybe of staying inside. Maybe you can't go outside. Maybe you can't do this or can't do that. That's the burden that you're carrying. Just cast it on him. Relax. Take it easy. Enjoy life. He's in control. Matthew 11, 28, come unto me all you that labor, labor heavy, weary from trials, weary from exhaustion. Come unto me all you that are weary and I and who carry a heavy burden, he said. Let me back that up. Come unto me, all ye that are laboring and carrying a heavy burden, and I will give you rest. In the Greek New Testament, that word burden is different from the word in the Hebrew. In the Greek New Testament, in Matthew 11, 28, burden is portizo, portizo, P-H-O-R-T-I-Z-O. It's a different meaning. It means referring to the demands that you've been placed under physically, emotionally, placing demands on your resources. It's used metaphorically of the demands, for example, there of the law of Moses imposed by the religious leaders. And people couldn't live under those laws. They couldn't exist under those laws. No one could live up to that. So you have to cast every burden you have on the Lord. And then remember this verse, Matthew 10, 28. Fear not them who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. but rather fear him who's able to destroy both soul and body in hell. That's right. There will either be two births or two deaths. The first birth is when you're born into the world from your mom and pop, and you come into the world a shining baby, boy or girl. That's birth one. Birth two is when you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you are born again. The Lord Jesus Christ told Nicodemus he needed to be born again in John chapter 3. Nicodemus didn't quite understand it. He thought that was crazy that no one could go back into their parents' womb and be born again. And the Lord gently corrected him and said, no, it's not physical, it's spiritual. The spiritual rebirth is your human spirit being made alive. It's God the Holy Spirit coming to live inside of you and making you spiritually alive because you're born spiritually dead. You're born with a sin-infected virus, the virus of sin and death. And for by one man sin came into the world and death by sin, and now death has passed on all for all have sinned and the wages of sin is death. You're born into that. You have that virus already, and there's only one solution. There's only one thing to be inoculated with, and that is believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. There it is. That's the antidote to the virus of sin and death. So it's yours if you want it. Don't be afraid of anyone else. You want to be afraid of somebody, you better take a look at what God said. Hell is not the place you want to be. But remember this, hell and the lake of fire are horrible. Revelation 20 talks about the lake of fire and who will be in the lake of fire. And it says, whoever's name was not found written in the Lamb's book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. and this is the second death. I told you two births and two deaths. Either you're gonna be born twice or you're gonna die twice. The first death is when it's appointed and the man wants to die and after that the judgment. The second death is being cast into the lake of fire. If you have had two births, you will not have two deaths. But if you've only had one birth, then you'll go through two deaths, death one and death two. Physical death and cast into lake of fire, death two. So put your trust in the Lord and don't worry about what man can do to you. Psalm 56, 11. In God, I will put my trust. And I will not be afraid of what man can do to me, regardless of what man can create. Nobody's going anywhere until the Lord says it's time. 1 Peter 5, 7, casting all your anxieties on him, for he cares for you. This means your loving Father is watching over you. I pity those that have no hope, no divine protection. You need to tell them the good news about the eradication of sin and death virus, and maybe they might believe it. But if they don't have any hope, if they don't have any divine protection, they are scared to death today. Romans 8, 2, the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. There's the sin and death virus right there. And Christ Jesus is the antidote to the sin and death. Now, I want to go over to another passage that'll be interesting for you. I want to go to Philippians 1, 9, verse 9 through 11. And this will talk a little bit about the love of God for you. I told you God loves you. He's not going to throw you under the bus. He's watching over you. The question is, do you have the faith to trust him? do you do that can you trust god with your life with your life of your children with your finances if so then it's in his court not your court but if you don't then you're going to worry you're going to be afraid you're going to be intimidated in philippians 1 9 verse 11 through 11 9 10 and 11 This is my prayer that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight so that you may be able to discern what is best and that you may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ. Knowledge produces wisdom, and wisdom gives insight and discernment. What did he say? That your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight. Your love is the Greek word agape or agapao. That's the divine love that we understand to be occupation with Christ. He wants you, Paul is writing now to the church at Philippi, but to you as well, He wants your love to abound, perisuo. He's praying for your spiritual growth, just like your pastor would pray for your spiritual growth, that you would increase in spiritual growth. But you have to abound, abound, perisuo. It means to exceed a certain number or a certain measure. And what we call this in the Greek morphology is a subjunctive mood which says maybe it will, maybe it won't. That's really up to you. How much hunger you have. Whether or not you have a desire for knowledge. When knowledge becomes pleasant to your soul, the book of Proverbs says, that means that knowledge is great like a Twinkie. You know, you love them Twinkies. You love those donuts. You love that chocolate. Do you love the word of God? Can you, can't wait to get into it today. If you got some cookies at home you love, you can't wait to go home and get a cookie. But what about the Bible? What about God's word? Do you have a hunger for the word of God? I hope so, because that's what it's going to take. Abound. I want your love to abound more and more. The Lord Jesus Christ knew all about abounding. You know, when he fed those 5,000, they had 12 baskets full left over. And his love demonstrated his provisions and care for them. You have to do the same thing. You have to. You know, the greatest love we've seen apart from the love of God or our love for God is a combat veteran's love. Men that served in combat together, men who faced death together. You know, these men had a great love and great appreciation for each other in World War II and the Korean War and Vietnam War. I've had the honor of knowing men like this that love their combat veterans. In the war with Japan, when we fought World War II, Germany on one coast and Japan on the other, the Japanese would willingly die for the Emperor Hirohito, willingly die for him. However, they were amazed that the American fighting man would die for one another, that our love for our fellow soldier would cause us to jump on a grenade and save his life. Do you ever consider this? This is a thought I want you to think about. The Lord Jesus Christ jumped on the grenade in the foxhole with you. He died for you. He took your place. He sacrificed himself to make you free. He did it for you. Our love for God has different levels based on maturity, based on fidelity, based on trust, but you must grow to appreciate that love. And the only way to do it is to grow in knowledge. And the word epinosis is the word for knowledge there, but it's only one of two words. There are a couple of words for knowledge in the Bible. One of them is G-N-O-S-I-S, gnosis. And that knowledge doesn't do you any good. It's just an accumulation of facts that you understand. But epinosis is knowledge that you've converted from fact to faith and believed it and applied it into your life. This is what God is looking for, for you to take the information you're hearing even from your pastor and and to transfer that information from your mind where it assimilates over to your heart where you can make the application. When it's in your heart, it's epinosis. When it's in your mind, it's gnosis. Gnosticism is a worship of knowledge. Christianity is not gnosticism. We worship the Lord Jesus Christ and our Heavenly Father And so we come to understand these things when it gets into our heart. We learn about it and we apply it into our life. So he wants their love to increase. If you consider love is much like a river, it flows directionally. You know, when a river gets out of its banks in a flood, it's very destructive. It can wipe away homes and wash cars off the road and kill people. Well, love that's not under control is destructive. If you can't control passion, it's destructive. And so the only way you can ever control love is not to let it be an emotional thing. This is not an emotional thing. This is a different type of love. This is a love that is related to your understanding God's plan for your life. So he wants your love to grow in knowledge and depth of insight. And that word depth of insight is a Greek word called eistasis. Eistasis. And it means discernment. That you would have great discernment in your soul. And that's hypoxlegomena we call it. It's only used one time in the Bible. But if you consider the banks of the river, the river's flowing to the south. On one side of the river is knowledge. On the other side of the river is eisthesis or discernment. This is how you keep love directional going. If you learn about God's word, if you not only know him but understand him, then you have epinosis. So when you have epinosis... then you can respond to God's love by loving him back reciprocally. And when you love him, you have discernment. And that's the other side of the bank of the river, discernment or eistasis. And this is you having the ability to see through the devil's mirage. Satan throws up a smoke screen, and if you have knowledge of the Word of God, you can have discernment to see through it and not be distracted, not be knocked off course, not be defeated in your Christian life. So the delusional daydreamer, he's not interested in discovering the love of God. He's not interested in anything like that at all because he's in love with his own self. He considers himself to be equal with God. Proverbs 1.22 said, how long will you naive ones love being simple? Yes, Proverbs 3.7, they consider themselves wise in their own eyes. The people that are delusional daydreamers are in panic palace right now today because they thought they were so smart and they didn't need God. They didn't need God's word. They didn't need the filling of the Holy Spirit. They didn't need the Lord Jesus Christ. But when they start facing crisis like this, then they may begin to second think or they'll just get bitter and angry and say, well, okay, there is a God, but I hate him because of what he's done. It can go that way too, can't it? but without acquiring some sort of spiritual IQ by means of the filling of the Holy Spirit, that's problem-solving device number one. And without you having some epinosis, that's taking what you heard and applying it into your life, you will never, ever, ever have maximum love or maximum appreciation for God. At best, it'll just be a superficial emotion, which is, I guess, better than nothing but far from the best. The best is knowing the God you love. understanding the God you love, how you can reflect Jesus Christ through your life, how you can fulfill God's plan in your life. I mean, it's sad to wind up doing all the right things in the wrong way and thus accumulating nothing but wood, hay, and stubble at the judgment seat of Christ. That's what it's gonna be for a lot of folks that didn't understand. Never took the time, oh, they love God, yes. Oh yeah, I love God, they'll say. but they didn't understand the God they loved. They did the right thing, did it in the wrong way. And what does verse 10 say of Philippians 9, 10? So that you would be able to discern what is best and that you could be pure and blameless for the day of Christ. To discern is the Greek word dokimazo, and it's a verb, and it's a present tense verb. There never is a time you shouldn't discern. You should always be able to discern what is God's will for your life. If you don't understand that, then you don't even have a place to get started. The Bible wants you to approve God's will for your life, that you may be able to discern what is best, pure, and blameless. You have to make choices in life. You have to distinguish between what's excellent and what's wrong. And many, many people waste time doing good things that are totally a waste of time, totally in their spiritual lives. It's easy to get distracted and drift from grace. by getting involved in some program that has nothing to do with your spiritual growth. So I could talk a lot about that, but let me wrap this up by saying this, that he wants you to be pure, pure. And that's the interesting Greek word, alekrinos, alekrinos. And that means not contaminated, not contaminated morally and not contaminated with false doctrine. Pure from defilement. How could you reflect the love of God if you're contaminated with prejudice, religious ritual, or self-serving sin? You can't. So he wants you to be pure and blameless. And that means not causing others to stumble or lead them astray. That's what Paul is saying. He wants you to grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Peter actually said that, but that you would grow in knowledge and grace here and that you would continue to glorify Christ with your life. You know, there's some pretty sleazy people running around this country, and we have a mandate to love them, to love them just like Christ loves them. We might not approve of their sin, but we do offer them deliverance and forgiveness and love in Christ Jesus. We have to because God loved them just as much as he loved you. So is it possible you forgot that? Is it possible you don't have that first love you had? Remember why he came to start with, to seek and save those that are lost. And you're not the only one that needed it. The son of man has come to seek and save that which was lost. Luke 19 10. That's your mission also. To demonstrate God's love through your life. Be a reflecting of Jesus Christ's love for them. Give them hope in this time of crisis. People are scared. People don't know where to go. They don't know what to do. You have the answers. Some of those we gave you today, so think about it. If you'd like a transcript of this message, let me know. We'd be glad to send it to you. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flotline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.

In this episode, Ready Radio hosts John Rush and Bill Anderson navigate the complexities of power outages, emergency preparedness, and self-defense scenarios. Discover how planned scenarios can improve your mental readiness and why mindset is as crucial as the physical tools you have. We share insights into backup power options tailored to fit various needs and explore the true nature of necessity during power outages. Whether facing hailstorms or contemplating societal shifts, tune in to rethink how you prepare for the unexpected.
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This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything, now. Here's your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. All right, welcome. Ready Radio, KLZ 560, live program today, June the 6th. June the 6th, so thanks for joining us today. We appreciate it very much. If you're listening to a replay show, you know what day we recorded this on. Bill Anderson joining me, as he typically does. Bill, welcome. How are you?
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I'm doing okay. It's raining again here in Elizabeth. I tell you, it's crazy.
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I was reading something this morning. I didn't verify this. You see a lot of different things out on the Internet and so on, and I didn't verify this. But I read that we've had double the rain of Seattle since May.
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Yep. I read that this morning as well, too. Yeah, in fact, you know, it looked like it snowed at my house last night with the hail again. It's just like, holy cow. I don't know. You know, it fits right into the theme of this program, right? Because life is so unpredictable. That's right. You know, you don't know if you're going to have a hot season, a cool season, a wet season. You know, and we did all this garden prep stuff, and it's like I'm just watching it, like, all get washed out. And I'm like, oh, man, you know, okay, well, plan B, you know.
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Well, and as you said a moment ago, we could have all of those in one season, by the way. It could be cool and rainy, hot, tornadoes, hail. I mean, Bill, it's Colorado. We could have anything.
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We could have anything. You know, I once had an old electrician tell me one time, he says, hey, be really good at plan A. but, you know, be exceptionally well at plan B. You know, we all try plan A, and we hope that plan A works, right? I mean, that's the idea, but, you know, I mean, I don't know about you, but Murphy seems to show up a lot anymore, and it's like, okay, well, now let's adjust.
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No, you're right. I think that, I mean, here with what I do in this seat, folks don't recognize it or see it because things that go on behind the scenes, you know, guests don't show on time, or they can't show up at all, or other technical snafus might happen, or he might have a software issue or or or bill i can go down the list of things that happen and and i think your other electrician friend is very correct and and frankly there are there are those out there that get so structured in this world by the way you can't be because things can happen and you have to be prepared for that and ready to roll no matter what and that that can apply to every area of life by the way should apply to every area of life
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Yeah, it's actually a really good thing, and it fits right in with what we talk about on a weekly basis here of, hey, we plan, we think we have an idea of what's going to happen, but shoot, you never know who's going to jump on the TV. get into a quarrel with whoever. The whole economy tanks and shifts and stock market changes all based on silly childness, in my opinion.
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Yeah, well, and frankly, I think Wall Street itself can be very childish along those lines as well. Those guys are a bunch of knuckleheads sometimes. Also, don't get me started on them because most of them don't understand reality any more than the folks that are causing some of those things you just mentioned. So I have my own... Most people know my feelings on that. I don't have a lot of respect for Wall Street and the traitors that are there. I'll just say it that way.
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Well, you've just got to understand this. They have an agenda, and they make their money, as most things in life, they make their money on 90% of the maybe uneducated or the unknowing, we'll just call it, of those traitors. that get in the market, try to do stuff, they're really driving it, right? It's the whole 80-20 idea of life, right? It's like they're driving everything, and those guys are making their money on the backs of the people who are doing the investing and things like that. I don't know if I'm stating it quite correctly. I think you're right. It's all driven that way. It is. You lead it. You lead what you want. things to happen for for whatever outcome and you know that's just the way it is you know and and i've been thinking about this this week john and i've really kind of dropped the whole quote prepper prepping idea and here's why right um it's it's not i'm not preparing for anything anymore it just now is my way of life right you know i'm going back to what my my granddad did what my grandma did And that's what they did. You know, they had a garden and they put up stuff for the winter. And, you know, I mean, they weren't called preppers. They were just living. They were providing for themselves. And it's like, you know, if you have that kind of mindset, John, then I think it kind of takes the whole stigma away from it and people get a little bit more comfortable with it. And it's like, you know, hey, I'm, you know, it ain't no different than putting money in a bank account or putting money in a retirement account or whatever. It's the same idea, right? You know, I'm putting things on the shelf for the winter.
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Fully, fully agree. We've talked about that a lot here that that term can get a lot of, you know, at times negative connotations depending upon how involved you are or aren't or maybe some of your past history and people that you've known could even be family members. I think at times people tend to throw the baby out with the bathwater, Bill, because they, you know, I don't want to be that. That's the last thing I want to be. Well, time out. What if you called it something different or what if you took a different look at it versus what you've been used to? You might have a whole different perspective. In other words, change your perspective on it, which I think if there's anything we're trying to do on this program each week, to your point, is – that whole perspective, getting people to think, okay, what if this happened or what if I found myself in this particular situation? Am I ready? Am I able to, you know, take over? Do I have not only the physical tools available to me to make it through this particular predicament? Do I have the mental skills? Do I have the knowledge? You know, do I have everything that it takes to make it through some of these things? Because as I, and I know you do the same thing as I read books, a lot of these different books for end-of-the-world type scenarios and things like that. I'll give a hand to these particular authors. They think of things at times, Bill, that, frankly, I just never would have thought through. They come up with things, and granted, that's what they do. That's why they sell books and so on. But they've got me thinking about things that, frankly, a couple, two, three years ago, I wouldn't have thought about because it's just not something that's at the top of your mind.
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Right. It's kind of like in our self-defense classes, we constantly are running what you would call scenarios, right? A scenario, hey, you're in a bad neighborhood, or hey, somebody ran the shopping cart into your car, or they are accusing you of running your cart into the car, and how are you going to handle that situation? And basically what these books and things do is they're running scenarios for us in our mind. And when you get the reps in, Here's an interesting thing about your mind. Your mind doesn't know if it's a real scenario or a fake scenario, or even if you just imagine it in your head. Your body really doesn't know, and that's one of the bad things about reliving a tragedy in your life is you're re-experiencing that tragedy over and over and over and over again. And it's not healthy, right? And I know that's easier said than done, but sometimes that's hard to just shut that off. But, you know, your mind doesn't really know. And there's so many studies with the whole thing of, you know, kind of imagining, you know, hey, throwing three throws versus the test group that is actually throwing them. And the percentage is not that big of a difference of the people that just imagined it, they visualized it, and the people that did it, right? And so, you know, we are kind of doing that, if you will. And every week when we talk about a particular topic or things come up, we're running scenarios. And as people are listening and thinking about it, they're getting a rep in. Now, what you do with it is important, too. You know, you can't just say, oh, you give me something to think about. Hopefully we're giving people something to do. You know, in church, you know, it's kind of one of my things. If somebody comes up to me and goes, hey, you gave me something to think about, then I look at that as like, oh, I failed. Because I should have given you something to do, to take what we talked about today and go apply it to your life, in whatever area we're talking about. And hopefully we're doing that, you know, as we speak today. But one of the biggest things that I think we miss in all of this is if stuff goes, you know, we have the tools, we have the skills, do we have the mindset, right? Right. Do we have the mindset? Are we becoming fearful? Are we becoming overprotective? Are we becoming, you know, have we thought about that side of it? Because, John, I think a lot of people miss that. element, you know. They missed that portion of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree, and that's one of those things, again, we continue to talk about here. Somebody asked also, and yes, this is a definite yes, if there are any kind of bad weather situations while we were on air, hail uh tornadoes things like that whether it's this program or any other ones that i do live will you guys be notified of them absolutely plus you know klz is part of the emergency broadcast system as well so not only would i say something but you guys would hear that as well so at the end of the day yes you guys will all be notified if something like that happens bill one of the things in light of some of that because i was thinking today you know we're in that type of the time of the year where we can get all sorts of different storms we can have bad hail rain tornadoes things along those lines and backup power is one of those things that I think a lot of people think about but maybe never exercise anything on. And I get it. There is a broad spectrum of what is a need versus what a want is. In other words, some may want the entire house to have backup power. Well, that may be unrealistic depending upon your budget. So I thought maybe we could get into some of that and helping people understand that. you know, what do they need versus what they want, and then how do they determine whether they want, you know, whether they need, I should say, battery backup, regular, you know, generator, gasoline power, you know, natural gas type, you know, diesel power generators, things like that. And I guess the first thing I would ask you, given you're the electrician in all of this, where do folks start? What's the first thing that they should really look at in determining what they need?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, let's start there. But let's kind of touch back to the weather notification. So here's your first one. It is now hailing at my house. Okay, gotcha. So there you go. It is hailing. So the first place to start is, you know, there is no cookie cutter. You must understand that. And you've got to be careful, even listening to a show such as ours, or anybody out there for that matter on YouTube or whatever book, and thinking that, oh, you know, hey, John said this, so that's what I've got to do. You know, John's situation, Bill's situation, and your situation are completely different, right? So there is no cookie cutter in that. And, you know, I'm doing a lot of study in permaculture, and I don't know if you're familiar with that. No, I'm not. It's kind of setting up your yard in permaculture. what you would call you know kind of you know feeding back to the land and letting you know your gardening getting away from the traditional stuff and kind of getting into like food forests and tree guilds and i mean it's it's that's a very vague definition of it but when you're looking at permaculture or a little farm you know homestead or whatever you want to call it they talk about zones and and trust me this will this will make sense here in a minute And your zone zero is the things that are on your countertop. So maybe I have my sprouts there or I have whatever growing there. My zone one is whatever's in my backyard. And the idea is the further away from your house is, the less maintenance it's going to need, the less care it's going to need, because you don't want to be traveling all the way to the corner of your property to pick your lettuce. right? Because what happens? You forget about it. It's too far. It's not convenient and things like that. So you have these zones, you know, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, whatever it may be. And so the same thing is kind of true in whatever area we're talking about. Okay. So, you know, hey, what's my immediate need? If I'm in the house and let's say you and I are talking right now and the lightning is strikes and the power goes off. Okay. It's like, okay, well, how long is that going to be? And what do I need right now? Okay. Now that's going to be given, you know, hey, is it nighttime? Do I need to navigate my house in the dark now because there's no power? What do I need? Do I have medical? Do I have somebody on a ventilator or whatever kind of medical device? So you see how it doesn't necessarily, there's no cookie cutter, right? I can't say, oh, yeah, you need this, you need this, because you may be just fine. You may actually be just fine with no power for three to four hours. Like, actually, to be honest with you, most people are. Most people can survive this world with no power for three to four hours. True. True. You're not going to have your TV show. Okay. You're not going to have the Internet. Okay. Guess what? You'll live.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good point. And I'm sorry to be so tough on people.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you're right.
SPEAKER 09 :
People need to get out of la-la land, John, you know?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, no, you are correct. I mean, I think that's where for the long haul, what are you needing? Because to your point, that short haul, that, let's face it, Bill, even a half a day, if you keep your fridge closed, keep the door closed, keep the freezer door closed and so on, could you go four or five hours without power? Yeah, absolutely you could. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but I'm on a well. Okay, well, you know, you should consider that. So, again, now we go back to what are your immediate needs. Okay, if I'm on a well and I need that power immediately, to give me water. First of all, remember this. You're on a pressure tank, so you will have some water until that pressure tank drops. And then, you know, it'll try to call for water, but it won't be able to. So, you know, it's not like your water is going to completely shut off because you do have some pressure in that tank. So, you know, again, if you need a drink of water, get it. But hey, are you putting away a couple gallons in there? Because again, you know, if I had a couple gallons on the shelf or whatever it may be, push comes to shove. I'm okay. You're good.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. I'm okay. That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm not good. You know, people are like, I hate to be so blunt, but people are like, oh, my gosh, I'm so hungry. And I'm looking at you going, you got plenty in this tank.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you could, and people don't realize this, water, of course, you can't go as long without. But, Bill, for most people with food, you can go if you've got a good supply of water you could go a couple of weeks easily without food now you you may not have the energy levels and things that you would have otherwise some will go through withdrawals by the way because of all the crap we eat on a daily basis but you may not feel very well and by the way it's not because you're not eating food well It is because you're not eating food. You're not eating the food you're used to having, and your body's now going through withdrawals. So you're feeling bad from that, more so than not having the food itself, Bill, for the first 48 hours. After that, you can go weeks without food. Not a problem. Most Americans, easy three weeks.
SPEAKER 09 :
If not more. I mean, I talk to people all the time. I'm starving. I say, you want to see what starvation looks like? Look at the people from the concentration camps. That's starvation, buddy. You're nowhere close to that. And again, I hate to be so blunt, but it gets a little irritating because we are... We're a bunch of sissies, John. We're a bunch of sissies.
SPEAKER 07 :
I can't disagree with you on that. We are spoiled. Sissies is maybe not the right... I mean, it goes along with it. We're spoiled sissies. Maybe that's the way to say it, Bill. We're so spoiled. We have pretty much everything we want. at our fingertips. I mean, we live in a society today to where whether it's a big box store like a Costco, Walmart, Sands Club, all the way down to your local stores, all the way down to, in some cases, the quote-unquote convenience stores, gas stations, if you would, that we have placed everywhere. I mean, there's very, very few places you can't go find some substance to survive on literally in this country, Bill. We are very blessed in that area where most countries don't have that ability.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, so anyway, with that said, you know, I think people get a little overzealous with their battery or their generator or whatever it may be, power, their thoughts of what they really need. You know, because, again, now we're going back to that zones. okay so hey zone zero is okay maybe i got a little i think i've talked about this in the past i got a little you know knockoff pelican case or if you got the money pelican case i don't really care you know whatever suitcase i don't really care some type of a box and and you open it up and it's like okay i got some you know i got some headlamps in here got some flashlights in here um I'm good for a couple hours. I'm good for a couple hours. And like you said, as long as I don't open and close, open and close, open and close, because people are like, what about my food? Listen, we do service changes all the time. We turn people's power off for a good four to six hours. And everybody's food is fine. Your refrigerator will cycle for about 15 or so minutes every hour just to maintain the Right, because as long as it's sealed up, it's maintaining temperature. Right. Now, the more I open and close and all of that, then, yeah, I'm going to bring it down. Then I'm going to have to call for the cooling to bring it down. But for the most part, your fridge, your freezer can easily last a day with no power. That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Real quick, I had a question that came in, and this is something you may know some about. I know a little bit about this as well, and that is somebody texted and said, one of the biggest fears I have is lightning. It can punch holes in roofs. It can do all sorts of damage, things along those lines. And what I would tell folks is if you're in an area where you feel like you're more susceptible to that than maybe some others for whatever reasons, and you would know that more than anybody else, by the way, because you know your house better than anything. There are companies out there that make, you know, lightning, and Bill, you're the electrician, you would know this more than I, not necessarily deterrent, deterrency systems, but they're systems designed to handle the lightning when it shows up. Let me say it that way. Is that the right way to say it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, here's the reality. Again, the reality of the situation, you know, you're getting hit by lightning. I mean, that's pretty big, right? You're not going to... You know, deflect that 100%. You're not, I mean, you're, I'm sorry, but you're between, you know, a rock and a hard place, to put it nicely. You know, you're screwed. You're screwed. I mean, that's just pretty much what it is. I mean, I've got several trees on my property here right next to my house that have been hit by lightning. You could tell because there's a big scar right up the side of them. And so out here in the eastern plains of Colorado, we get hit a lot. So, yeah, if you're in that kind of area, yeah, you want to get a lightning system, right? And basically what they are is they're rods that are put up on the peaks and things of your house. And then the idea is that when the lightning strikes these things, it diverts the flow away from your internal energy. wiring of your house and takes it to ground through external rods and things of that nature. If you've got any understanding of electricity, electricity takes the path of least resistance. You're creating these lightning rods to dissipate the biggest strike through the path of least resistance. It's kind of the same thing with surge protection. People are asking me, hey, what can I get? Surge protection, will it protect me from a lightning strike? And I'm like, honestly, no. You're going to have damage. And even with EMP Shield, I think you guys offer that, we offer that. It's not going to protect it. They'll give you insurance with it. It might help. But, you know, if it gets into the interior wiring of your house and things of that nature or hits structure, I mean, listen, if it hits your roof and blows a hole in your roof, there's nothing electrically that's going to save you.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. No, it is what it is. And there was a company that was not far from a shop I had in Boulder called Lightning Eliminators. They're still around. They do really high-end, high-tech stuff. things along those lines, Bill, to where if you're a manufacturing company, for example, and a lightning strike would be detrimental to your business, yes, they do make systems. They're not cheap. I doubt most homeowners, unless you've got a boatload of money, most homeowners couldn't afford to put the type of systems they make in. Do they work? Absolutely they do. I've seen them in action, and yes, they work, but they are not for the faint of heart cost-wise.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's super expensive. And honestly, out here where I live, a lot of houses, a lot of outbuildings and things have a lightning system on them. But it comes at a cost. And this is the same thing what we're talking about with our topic today. If you want me to put in a 22, 24, 27K generator for your whole house because you're worried about that one or two hours of power you might not have, We can do that, you know, but whatever your pocketbook can afford, you know, we can do that if that's what you want. I just had this conversation yesterday with somebody. It's like, you know, you probably don't need this. What this will give you, honestly, is peace of mind. Right. And peace of mind is, you know, enough. for you to justify the cost, then I have no problem doing that. But that's up to you, and I don't know your budget.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're going to come back and talk more about that. So, folks, if you've got anything else, please send us a text message. Some of you are without power as we speak, so we're on the right topic, given that some of you are texting along those lines right now. Hang tight. We'll talk more about this in a moment. Don't go anywhere. You can text us, by the way, 307- 200-8222-307-28222. We'll be right back. This is Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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Bill Anderson with me today. Bill, do you have any classes, anything coming up that you want to talk about in the near future that we should mention before we get going?
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, so folks that are thinking about that end of it, where we're thinking, okay, and somebody mentioned that, keep in mind, if you're somebody that's got a high water table and you run on a sump pump, that's one thing that you would have to be more careful on because in a big torrential storm where things may be, you know, raining super hard, you do lose power, want to make sure that things aren't backing up inside, especially if you've got a finished basement. If it's unfinished, maybe not quite as big of a deal, but if it's a finished basement, something you probably ought to be paying attention to. what you need generator whatever to keep things going because in that particular case bill as you know you're going to have more water coming in you would normally power is out how are you handling a potential flood issue in your basement yeah so again we kind of go back to you got to figure out your situation and there's no cookie cutter with this let's talk about um some things here real quick and then we'll get back to this to answer this question but things that cause
SPEAKER 09 :
Power outage in the Denver metro area. Let's just kind of look at what those common are. Yes, weather conditions is probably number one. High winds, snowstorm, extreme temperatures, which we're going to start maybe have later this summer, are the primary cause for the power outages. You've got to remember, too, the Xcel energy power grid was built over 60 years ago. Got it? And it's still above ground, all right? So that is, you know, leaves it all susceptible to those high winds, snows, things of that nature. But that's actually, and that's probably why a lot of people are starting to experience more power outages is because of that. Also, I will say this, because we love to be, quote, green, John, right? And energy efficient, right? which is a bunch of balarkey, by the way, it actually is putting more strain on our grid. The requirement of car chargers and the demand electrically per house. You know, if you go back and think about it, sometimes people would go to these older houses and they're like, you know, hey, I only had one outlet in my bedroom. And they're like, I just don't have enough outlets. And it's like, yeah, what does that tell you? They didn't have the demand electrically back then as we do now. But we think we're energy efficient. You know, we think, hey, we got all these LED light bulbs. We got all this green stuff. I can tell you the houses now, which used to be 100-amp electrical service, used to be more than enough. Now, a lot of these houses, we're having to put in 400 amps, which is equivalent to, you know, three something by the time it's all said and done. But it's like, are you kidding me? You know, and a mandate, you know, now of, hey, every garage has to have a car charger. You know, that's between a 30 and a 50 amp 220. Hey, you got to have this. Oh, we can't do natural gas anymore. So all your stuff has to be electric. But hey, we're energy efficient. This is one of my favorites. stinking hot button because it's just it's it's a it's a load of poop you know it's it's really what it is yeah it's you know um It's just garbage. But anyway, so, you know, 60% of the infrastructure of Denver is, or not 60%, excuse me, most of Denver's infrastructure now is 60 years old. So that leads to equipment failures, right? Transformers and all of these things can lead to outages. In 2024, 15 problematic transmission feeder lines accounted for 18% of the outages in the Denver metro area. Did you hear what I just said? Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Amazing. Yep. Amazing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. And so then you have in 2024, the average Xcel Energy customer experienced 350 minutes of power outages, which is an average of 166 minutes between 2014 and 2023. And then additionally, 90,000 customers experienced six or more outages in a year. So that's what's happening. So you can take a look at Jackery.com, and you can see Xcel Energy's outage map. It provides real-time information on outages, including affected areas, estimated restoration times. And by the way, the whole idea of, oh, I get a text message saying, when a when an outage is in my area cool that's great it may work it may not work i mean whatever we did this last tornado we had come through elizabeth here um there was no emergency alert on nobody's phone kind of crazy somebody really quick somebody just said that there's a funnel cloud out towards your area franktown area as we speak to so those of you that are out in that area it's been posted on social media so be alert be watching and paying paying attention Yep. So if you lose me, hey.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, no. Okay, so those that are thinking, okay, I do need – I want to make sure that because of the stats that Bill just read off, I want to make sure that I'm protected, at least some of my key things are protected. And this is where it gets a little bit dicey and where actually Bill even having a sit-down chat with you at their home as an electrician and even going over – hey, these are your options, here's the cost, and so on, is really, really a great idea. And I mean that sincerely, not just trying to push bill services on all of you listening, but literally sitting down and saying, okay, have you thought about this? Sometimes an extra set of eyes and looking around your place saying, okay, you want to keep this running, but what about that over there? And so that really, I think, at times, Bill, helps. But in general, how do folks figure? So let's say they want to put a whole house generation system in. How do they know what KW they need?
SPEAKER 09 :
so you're going to be kind of limited to what you can you know reasonably afford let's just say that and i would say you know 22 kw is going to give you you know approximately 92-ish amps full load max you know the other thing you need to keep in mind that in an event that you do have a power outage listen you need to be very energy-conscious, right? Meaning, hey, I might not be able to run everything. I might not be able to fire up my hot tub. I might not be able to charge my car, you know?
SPEAKER 07 :
Even the AC, depending upon your budget, right, Bill?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, absolutely. Hey, maybe I've got to open up some windows and be a little warm. You know, again, you have to think about this. Now, when you think about that, and again, the biggest question is, too, is my furnace electric or gas yes i understand there's a motor in there that turns the you know that blows the the blower you know and and things but there's also furnaces out there that are completely electric elements right so is that that is my dryer electric okay and and by the way too to your point you know power outage i might not be doing laundry it might not right but then my stove. My stove or my oven, is it electric or is it gas? Because those are the big consumers. Right, right. Those guys are the consumers, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, anything that has a, I guess the way to say it, Bill, anything with a large element, that would be a stove, that would be a dryer. Microwaves are big suckers of energy as well, by the way. Most people don't realize that. They think, oh, that's just really easy. I'll just zap this. Well, that is one of your largest... energy-using kitchen appliances there is, Bill, as you know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. And, you know, you can look at your energy bill and see how many, you know, watts you've used because that's how you pay your bill, right? Right. Based on the kilowatt hour. So you can see what your consumption is and you can kind of get an idea. And the point I'm trying to make here, John, is, you know, even though I said just a minute ago that we are sucking the grid dry, right, that our energy consumption has actually gone up, not down, right? The reality is when push comes to shove, to really survive, let's say you have a well, let's say you have the essentials going, the furnace or whatever it may be. Furnace in the wintertime, you've got to keep going. AC in the summertime, yeah, I can turn them off. The reality of the situation is I might be pulling 60 amps. But, again, I don't want everybody to take that as a cookie-cutter answer because there's places out here where I live, it's like, hey, we got animals, and we got to keep the elements and the water, you know, thing from freezing. We got whatever it may be, you know. I mean, every shoe is different, so we got to tailor that. But when we throw that up there, John, you know, A 22kW, a 24, 27 should be more than enough for most people, most, you know, average-sized houses, yeah. So, you know, and those are pretty standard, and that's going to get you, you know, 27 might get you about 112 amps. And check that out, too. Between a 27 and a 22, you're talking maybe 10, 20 amps, again, depending on what you're pulling. And the more you're pulling... the more fuel, whatever that fuel is, you're going to consume, right? So think of a pickup truck and driving that pickup truck empty downhill, I'm not going to burn as much fuel as if it's loaded and I'm going uphill, right? So I'm going to consume way more fuel, whether it's diesel, propane, natural gas, whatever it is, you fill in the blank, I'm going to consume more fuel with the more load I have on it, which may or may not be a concern for you. But if you are not attached to a natural gas line or if you have limited storage with your propane, now you better be thinking about that. Or if I'm running gas tanks, right? So... Besides that, really just we got to look at what you essentially need, you know, kind of going back to the person that responded with the sump pump. It's like, okay, well, yeah, that's a legitimate thing in my opinion. We do a lot of generators out here, John, because people leave for the winter and they go to warmer places. And it's like, hey, I don't want my furnace to go down with no power. and then have lines, water lines freeze while I'm gone and come back to a big mess. And so they've got, you know, a... A generator going there, and it's all automated so that they don't have to worry about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that's another question that people need to think through as well, and you just mentioned it. If folks are on natural gas, can you power that generator, or do you want to power it with that? If you're wanting to do diesel fuel, well, that's a whole different animal. I talk about that even on Saturday on Drive Radio because keeping diesel fuel fresh is a whole other challenge. Maybe you're on propane, and maybe you just want to run it on propane. Maybe you've got a natural gas, but you want to be able to have a secondary source and be out of the natural gas end of things, and you want to run it on propane, and you've got the ability to do that. I mean, Bill, these are things that folks need to think about on the front side, correct?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and again, I go back to the layering system. You've got to go back to the layer system, that zones, right? We have, you know, zone one, zone two, zone three, and I've got many options, okay? So I've got, okay, I got my little box here with my flashlights and my little, you know, things that's going to get me through. Let's say we're getting into that one to two hour, getting close to that two hour mark, and it's like, okay, it doesn't look like the energy is going to come on. Okay, let's go to the next step. The next step is, you know, maybe I pull out a Jackery or some kind of a solar generators, they call them, which is really a misnaming of those. But anyway, whatever, I digress with that. But I pull out something like that. Okay, I got this ready now. Maybe it's a portable generator, you know, and I fire that up and we run some extension cords to that sump pump or we run some extension cords to the furnace. Again, you know, it's The lanes here are very wide and very broad in what we're driving in. Now we're going, okay, it's been several hours now. Okay, now I've got to start thinking about my refrigerator, my freezers. So having these scenarios, circling back to the scenarios, played out in your head, And then you have the plan to go forward and to implement the plans as you progress in that power outage, right?
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Is there – and I get this quote-unquote debate quite often, even from those that are listening, texting, emailing, and so on – do you do power wall, you know, generation backup with solar and so on, or do you just go straight, you know, regular natural gas, diesel powered, propane powered, you know, generation backup or, or both, or does it depend on the circumstances?
SPEAKER 09 :
Uh, whatever you can afford.
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Okay.
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You know, whatever you can afford. I mean, I'm sorry to say that, but it comes down to money, right? Um, if you want the, the best, what I would call create your own micro grid, uh, Um, yeah, I got solar and then I've got a battery wall and I've got a backup generator. Okay. And so the idea is this, because you got to understand, you got to understand too. And I mean, now we're talking long-term now. We're not talking for that, that power outage is out for, for a day or two. You're talking long-term. Okay. So, um, I'm, I'm going to top that battery. I'm going to work off of that battery. Okay. Now, whatever feeds my battery, if the sun's up, I've got my system set up that's going to prioritize taking the solar energy minus what I'm currently using, the excess of it, and instead of sending it back to the grid for micro pennies on the dollar, I'm going to store it and put it into my battery. Now, when the sun goes down and I don't have the sun, now I'm going to start to draw off the battery. Okay, if the battery gets drained in the night and it needs to pop off again, the generator fires. While the generator's feeding the electricity of the house, the excess, because when your generator's running... You're creating electricity whether you're using it or not. That's one of the bad things about a generator, right? If I want the energy on demand, I have to have that thing running the entire time. A battery energy on demand is, hey, I suck it down, I turn off whatever I'm using, well, I still got potential there. I still got potential in my battery, right? It's like a gas tank. You're using it, and then when it gets low, you've got to top it back off. So the generator kicks on. I'm using the generator power as it's running. The excess is topping off the batteries. Once the battery gets to a certain level, the generator kicks off, and now I'm working off battery here. And you can also add the grid into that to charge the battery. You can also add wind power, a turbine into that, whatever. Whatever you're tapping your battery off with, that's better. So now, how do I size the batteries? Well, again, you know, what's your load? What are you pulling from? You can start off with something as simple as a 5K, or Franklin makes a 7K, and you can start off with that. You know, it runs about $3,000 or so just for the battery, not the installation, you know, but kind of a general idea. And then, you know, hey, save up a little bit more, and hey, let's add another 7K, or let's add two 7Ks. You know, you can... you can stack it, you can grow it as you want to. And then at some point, you know, you can become energy efficient. And then, you know, the whole talk of, well, I can plug in my Tesla or I can plug in my whatever electric car and I can drain off that. You can't, it ain't gonna last very long, you know, but you can pull off of that guy too if you want to, if you get it set up right. You know, just don't plan on going anywhere because now you can't go anywhere. But so it's a very deep subject and it can take many different, directions. It can go off many different tangents, if you will, John. Again, we've got to figure out what you want, what you're looking for, and build it around that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Somebody just had a great question, which I never really thought about. Is there battery walls? We call them whatever. Tesla's got them. There's several different brands that are out there, as you know, Bill. Do they have to have solar to operate, or can you run those independent of solar? In other words, can you just charge those off the grid, and then when the grid goes down, you still have that power?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, absolutely, and that's what's nice about the Franklin system is is it doesn't care about the input. You can prioritize the input. So if you have a cloudy day, or during the winter we may not have as much sun, it'll pull off the grid. And you can program it to do it on non-peak hours. so that you can be charging your wall in the middle of the night, let's just say, when the electricity is cheaper, and then have it dispatched or use that when it's more expensive to kind of offset the cost. Now, I will tell people this, too, because people think they're going to make their money back, and I'm like, The return of investment on these things, solar, battery walls, generators, whatever, listen, it's... It's not there. You probably won't get it, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no. Not in our lifetime.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So, again, you're paying for that peace of mind. You're paying for whatever. Now, if you have somebody in your house that needs that medical stuff, you know, needs that ventilator, needs whatever, whatever. I don't know all the things that people use for medical things, but... Now it's not a question of return on investment. It could be a question of life or death, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Here's another question that I've even had, and this might be a dumb question, but on the power walls, do they make them where they're external? They can go on the outside, or do they all have to go inside of a garage or a basement? How does that part of it work, Bill?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, absolutely. They're made to go outside, inside. Now, you do want to make sure, you know, be smart about it, right? Because especially in Colorado, we have very intense sun. And, you know, the UV and the intenseness, it's not even an English word, but whatever, the intensity of the sun really will start to degrade your equipment over time. And plus, I don't know if anybody has an electric car, you know that that battery charges and the retainment of the energy in that battery is different in the winter than it is in the summer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then people that live like in Phoenix and stuff, you know, they've got to take care of their batteries because the excessive heat is good for them. Correct. So, you know, I would keep that in mind. But, no, to answer your question, they can go outside. They can go inside mine personally or in the inside of my garage. And I think the life of the battery will last a little bit longer if you put it in a better box.
SPEAKER 07 :
Less temperature swings, right, just like any other battery.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, exactly. Okay, makes total sense. All right, let's do this. We'll take a quick break. We'll have a couple of minutes or so when we come back. If you've got more questions, keep texting. I've got a couple more that have come in that I'll read in a moment. 307-200-8222. We'll be right back. Ready Radio. It's ready-radio.com is our website.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Sure. It's ARK Electric, A-R-K as in Noah's Ark, and the number is 303-656-3688. eight, nine. And, you know, what we can also do is we could probably just come out and set up a consultation where we will come through, walk through what you have going on, what you're looking to have accomplished. And then we can create, you know, a total energy, what we'd call plan that would say, okay, Here's some ideas from all of these different layers that you can do. And, you know, we can set that up. I mean, obviously, that wouldn't be a free consultation. That would be a charged consultation. But at least it would give you a plan. Great idea. And give you an idea of... Okay, here's what I do. And then if you wanted to go into that, you know, that final step of, you know, the power walls or, you know, I call them power walls. There's, like you said, there are Generac has one, several people have them. But, you know, hey, you know, give me a crescent wrench, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no, that is, Bill, that's a great idea. Just, it's sort of like... um you know there's other things where people pay for a consultation on the front side to determine you know do i want to do this do i want to do that a lot of you know remodeling things and you'll hire a contractor or a design artist or something along those lines to really get an idea of okay these are all of my you know this is option a b and c and then after that you can sit down as a family couple whatever kind of sit down and figure out okay these are all of the scenarios this is the options of each one of those scenarios these are the budgetary items along those lines and then when it's all said and done which direction you know do we want ahead and you're taking a really good solid educated approach versus and this is where i'm going with this everybody listening versus seeing those ads that come in from you know honeywell or generac or wherever hey get get a whole house generation and, you know, fill this form out and blah, blah, blah. And Bill, I'll just tell you straight up, not the way to do it. Having a consultation with you on the front side would be the best money spent.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah, because I'm not forcing, you know, that cookie cutter on you, right? That's right. That's one of the big problems with, you know, all this stuff. It's like, you have to do this. And, you know, and a lot of times, John, they use scare tactics. And, you know, being a pastor, I'm That's another hot button, right? I'm not here to scare you. I want to educate you. I want to educate you, and then you can make the best forms. And by the way, through that process, too, there's things in there that you'll have immediate takeaways from and that you'll be able to employ right on the spot. Be like, oh, yeah. And things that we can honestly do and get you started very, very cheaply. I mean, one of the ideas that I've got – You know, it's, hey, go out and buy a bunch of those 99-cent solar lights. Stick them in your yard. Hey, in the worst-case scenario, in an outage in the night, go grab those things. Bring him inside. There you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great idea. Great idea. All right. That's it for today. We'll have more next week. We might even continue this topic a little bit more because there's always a lot to talk about when it comes to the whole power end of things. If you guys have a specific question, again, reach out. Go to ready-radio.com, or you can see Bill at prep2protectco.com. Bill, appreciate you, man. All right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Talk to you next week.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Sounds great. You guys, that's it for Ready Radio. Ready-radio.com, KLZ 560.
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In this episode, we explore the lasting legacy of capitalism and how it fortified the United States in overcoming global conflicts. John, together with movie reviewer Andy Pate, shifts gears to discuss Wes Anderson's latest film, 'The Phoenician Scheme.' Combining candid reviews and engaging narrative, their discussion offers both critique and admiration, providing an insightful spin on current cinematic trends.
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It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I'm a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he's going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that coming. and movie reviews with Andy Pate.
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I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
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What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I've acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
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Jim Ray, what do you want to do tonight?
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I'm done.
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Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
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All right. Happy Friday. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And yes, we've got a lot of storm things going on around us right now. And for those of you may be listening to a replay of this show, it is June the 6th, D-Day. We'll talk about that here in a moment as well. But yeah, lots of storm things going on around us. And if things get really dicey, yes, we are a... A emergency alert station, so occasionally we may get interrupted depending upon what storms are doing around us. And all I can say right now is just be vigilant, keep your eyes open, pay attention to what's going on. Could be tornadoes, large hail. They said maybe even up to 2-inch hail, which is good size. It's damaging hail, unfortunately. But, yeah, be aware of that and be paying attention.
SPEAKER 09 :
How soon are they saying that could hit the area?
SPEAKER 04 :
Like us now.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I'm not seeing anything.
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Depending upon where you're looking, and some folks are even texting in that there are places right now that are looking really bad, even up towards – it's heading from north down south, by the way. So they've got texting coming in from up north right now as we speak saying, yeah, it looks like a pretty good-sized storm. It will move to the south is what they were saying even earlier today with the weather. So that's exactly what they predicted now until about –
SPEAKER 09 :
six or seven depending upon timing so just be aware of all of that and pay attention and be safe most of all well i may be running down and moving my car you may i went in the garage today just i mean i and i barely know but i barely did so john well as you know on these friday shows i put in a lot right of prep i mean it takes people have no idea how many hours and so i was buried in prep i had no idea a hailstorm was coming through
SPEAKER 04 :
No, and again, the only reason I knew is I was watching some things this morning video-wise on it, and I'm like, oh, okay, well, I think this afternoon I'll – I don't normally do that because my truck barely fits in the garage, but went in the garage. Anyways, today is also the anniversary of D-Day, and I was talking this morning to my son about that, and, you know, it's been several times – This is not a joke. Several times in the world events where the United States has come to the rescue of the world, literally, and I'm not exaggerating in the least when I say that. One of those days, the anniversary is today, to where we literally saved the world from German and also potentially Japanese annihilation, and I am not exaggerating in the least when I say that, Andy.
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You know, it's incredible, though. Only half of one country on the planet will admit that. The conservative half of America.
SPEAKER 04 :
You are right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Everybody else would say that we haven't done a thing and we are the problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, tell that to the families of the men that died that day that in some cases barely even got, maybe didn't even get out of the boat as the ramp was coming down. We've seen some of the images of that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, sure. Put a couple feet on the beach, you're gone.
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The water was blood red because of the amount of souls that we as a country lost that day. By the way, I hope everybody needs to realize, yes, we did it because of the world, but we did it to really help out those European countries that were struggling in the war effort at that time. And then on top of that, we had a lot of, I believe, intervention, which, again, certain parts of the country, Andy wouldn't believe, but intervention by God himself. The weather was very cooperative. for us that day that helped us out immensely, that had that not been the case, who knows what the outcome would have been. Let's just say that between the United States of America and the Lord himself, we saved the world from speaking German today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I agree. You know what, John? I think there's a message about what happened then for what's happening now. Obviously, we're not going through D-Day. That's not what I'm saying. But what I mean is this. You said that Europe was really struggling. And here it was, all it was was the Germans. Okay, and they overwhelm Austria and so forth, and then the Italians, and they branch out. But the thing is, is that the rest of Europe should have been able to outnumber them, overwhelm them easily, be prepared. But they weren't prepared, and here's why, John. Because they did not understand the fury of pure evil. They did not understand what it's like to deal with pure evil. Okay, now, when I look at what the Trump administration right now is trying to deal with, with these criminal illegal aliens coming in, okay? And I look at these liberal judges trying to look for every way possible to let them off the hook, to delay their release, and also, by the way, putting some of our ICE agents in harm's way now overseas. You know, when I look at what these liberals do and I look at how young people react to it and how they're marching in the streets, you know, for the people in Gaza, and I just want to look at these people and say, you have no idea about the fury You have no idea of what overwhelmed Israel on that day on October 5th. You have no idea. You have no clue what it means to actually go up against pure evil and the fury of it because Europe without us was going to be buried. What does that say?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you are correct. And I'll add one more thing to everything you just said. The other thing that they didn't have in their favor that we did that enabled us to literally win two world wars, capitalism.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Capitalism.
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We were the arsenal of democracy. And people say, hey, that's great. And I say, yeah. Why do you think that is?
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for a movie? Both of these, yes. All right. Well, John, you know Wes Anderson. I don't know if you know much about him, the director. He makes strange, quirky films with lots and lots of stars. This is kind of what he does. And his latest production is The Phoenician Scheme.
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At this moment, rescue workers are laboring to recover and identify the remains of Zsa Zsa Korda, international businessman, maverick in the fields of armaments and aviation, among the richest men in Europe. This was Korda's sixth recorded airplane crash. He is survived by 10 children, nine boys, one nun, his daughter Liesel.
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I've appointed you sole heir to my estate. Which you may come into sooner rather than later.
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Why? It's been six years since our last meeting.
SPEAKER 07 :
I have my reasons. Which are what? My reasons? I'm not saying. I'm saying I'm not saying.
SPEAKER 17 :
Why are you shooting my ceiling? This is a robbery on behalf of... I understand that. I'm asking about my ceiling. You idiots are destroying a magnificent nightclub.
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One thing you'll never know because you can't. The truth. I suppose I'm moved by this absurd performance.
SPEAKER 09 :
And actually, John, that's a statement about all of Wes Anderson's movies. Lots of absurdity, lots of absurd performances. It's very common. Now, his last movie, I've got to mention this, was Asteroid City.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. I couldn't watch that one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, did you watch any of it?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, as much as I could, and then I had to turn it off. Sorry. Right. It was just too out there for me. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah, what it was was just oddity for oddity's sake. Now, Asteroid City was hailed by critics, hailed by critics.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I hated it.
SPEAKER 04 :
I did, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
I said this is terrible. I said it is awful for audiences. It is trying to be artsy for the arts' sake, not for entertainment. You're trying to impress yourself, not entertain us.
SPEAKER 04 :
I couldn't get past 30 minutes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it was horrible. I warned everybody against it, and it bombed.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you were right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Word of mouth. Destroyed that thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was awful, Andy. It was awful. You were correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, looking at what's going to happen economically to Canada over the next six months is about equal to Asteroid City.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't argue that.
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Okay, anyway, it seemed like it was made for the directors and actors, not for the audiences. Now, would this movie differ? Here we go. In the Phoenician scheme, Benicio Del Toro. I like him. Always have. He stars as 1950s Eastern European billionaire Zsa Zsa Korda. And Zsa Zsa has a complex life. He is competing with other moguls. He's targeted by assassins and governments. And he has strained relationships with his nine kids. Yes, nine kids. This includes his daughter, an almost Catholic nun named Liesel. And she's played by Mia Threepelton, who is a young actress I just love. Anyway, she's good. It also includes Zsa Zsa's maniacal brother, Nubin, played by Benedict Cumberbatch. He's bad. Well, with danger everywhere, Zsa Zsa decides to put his affairs in order. But instead of choosing one of his sons, he chooses Liesel to be his successor. She agrees, provided Zsa Zsa helps her learn who killed her mother. She suspects him. He denies it. Then with the help of Bjorn, who is an entomologist and tutor. He's played by Michael Cera, who, by the way, is terrific in this role. He's been a little bit underwhelming lately, and I thought he really knocked it out of the park. Anyway, with the help of Bjorn, Zsa Zsa works to complete a series of land deals. No mention of Greenland or Panama, just land deals. And his enemies are fighting it every step of the way. They want to stop him from doing this. This is Zsa Zsa's Phoenician scheme, setting up a self-supporting empire. But this requires getting key investments from a wide range of characters in short time. Ultimately, Zsa Zsa wants to leave good things to Liesel. But more and much more is going on here beneath the scenes, beneath the surface. There is Zsa Zsa's second cousin, Hilda, played by Scarlett Johansson, and he wants to marry her. There are business cohorts played by Tom Hanks and Bryan Cranston. Do you see these incredible names, right? There's an elaborate game of cat and mouse as Zsa Zsa must outwit assassins and shady business people. Can Zsa Zsa survive? Will Liesel ever care for him again? Will his grand scheme work? That's the story of the Phoenician scheme. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
Sounds interesting.
SPEAKER 09 :
Interesting, right. It sounds interesting. Now let's see if they put a movie around the interesting. Okay. Well, what works in the Phoenician scheme? First of all, naturally, the cast is spectacular. While the film is Anderson's usual brand of quirkiness, very quirky. So in that way, it's just like Asteroid City. But the best ones in this movie are Del Toro, Threepleton, and Sarah, and they are all fascinating characters. As you'll remember from Asteroid, nobody was fascinating, right? These are fascinating characters. They work very well together. They have very, very good chemistry. Unlike the awful Asteroid City, notice how I keep mentioning that? I have to. I'm sorry. A movie that bad leaves a taste in the mouth of a lot of people, and they're afraid to see the next one. Well, unlike that, this espionage movie has a decent pace, for the most part. The characters actually matter. Rather than just mouthing lines to continue a boring plot, this is better. At least some of the characters matter. The look features bright and colorful pastels with great costumes and some witty lines throughout. Finally, there is some action with plane crashes and guns. The interesting thing is because everything is so monotone and deadpan, whenever something actually does happen, it feels sudden. And that's a real staple of Anderson's movies. Now, what doesn't work in the Phoenician scheme? Somewhat false advertising. The trailer looks like much more action than the movie. Okay? The movie does not have as much action as the trailer. 90% of the time, once again, the characters just spew lines with deadpan looks. This is what they do. All of them. It's strange watching so many renowned actors going out of their way to not act. I mean, it's just a strange thing. By the way, did you notice that with Asteroid?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
All these big-time actors going out of their way to not act.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And they're all cardboard cutouts. And they could have put some no-name actors in these roles with the same results. I mean, Tom Hanks, Benedict Cumberbatch, Scarlett Johansson. Good point. You didn't need any of them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. The script can be too business technical. And the entire scheme is uninteresting. I really don't care what he's building. The characters, except for Liesel, are such cardboard cutout stereotypes, it's hard to care about them. It's like every actor is portraying a character type, not an actual person.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 09 :
Weird. Yeah. Have you seen movies where they do that? You're watching a bunch of characters, not people. Right. And I can't get involved with characters. I need people on screen. The pace does slow down. All right. It's better than the previous movie. Definitely. But it does slow down. And though the whole film is bizarre, there isn't enough humor. There is some. And I enjoyed it, but not nearly enough. And finally, there are some unnecessary stabs at Christianity. Not much. A little bit. but just some, but totally unnecessary. It has nothing to do with the story. Unnecessary. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes gave the Phoenician scheme. This is a little bit surprising. They gave it 77%. And the reason it's surprising is Wes Anderson is art for art's sake. Usually his get higher, right?
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90%.
SPEAKER 09 :
I believe Asteroid said he was over 90%. It was up there anyway. And Rotten Tomatoes gave it only 77%. I'm going to give it quality two and a half stars. Okay. It had enough wit, enough story, certainly enough chemistry between the main three characters to hold up a movie and keep your interest throughout. This was not a dreadful nightmare like the previous show. This was actually a pretty decent movie. It was cool to look at many times. And I was rather, you know, entertained by some of the art of it. Okay. Political three, more religious. I'm going to knock it down to two. because I'll just say it was not friendly to her faith. Okay. Overall, do I recommend going to the Phoenician scheme? No, I don't. But I will say this. If you are somebody who can tolerate the Wes Anderson style, where a bunch of very famous people don't act and speak in monotone 90% of the time, but this is their way of doing something avant-garde, something artsy, something different, if you're into that... Go to this movie. I think The Phoenician Scheme is one of his best movies in years. Otherwise, no, I think you're going to be bored. I don't think it'll work for you.
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The best export we have is common sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLC 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for another movie?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hope this is better than the last one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Ah, I'm pretty confident. Okay, here we go. Hey, John, what if John Wick was Jane Wick? Hmm. Ah, girl gets a spinoff in But Pellerina.
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I know a school where they teach Johnson's. I could take you there if you'd like.
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To stop the assassin, you must become the assassin. You will always be weaker. You will always be smaller. You want to win? Improvise. Adapt. Cheat.
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Welcome to the Continental.
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Eve Makaro of the Ruskaroma. What a pleasure to see you again.
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You have no idea what you just walked into. They killed my father.
SPEAKER 15 :
This isn't done until they're dead.
SPEAKER 16 :
You are him.
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The one they called the Baba Yaga. How do I start doing what you do?
SPEAKER 08 :
Looks like you already have.
SPEAKER 09 :
What do you think, John?
SPEAKER 04 :
Previews look really good.
SPEAKER 09 :
How do I start doing what you do? Well, you got to work your way up from the bottom. Okay, John, there are so many elements here. Tell me what you think of these. Tell me if you like them. You combine the Red Room of Black Widow with the intensity of John Wick. Add in some La Femme Nikita and Kill Bill. And there you've got it. You go, girl. Sounds good. All right. Anna de Armas. She stars as Eve, a super fighter on a mission of vengeance. Sound familiar? As a child, Eve loses her father, and this little orphan is taken to the Rusca Roma. That's where they train. Here she is trained to be an assassin by the director, played by Angelica Houston, who also trained John Wick. But Eve must learn to overcome her small stature against larger opponents. Wow. So why is this film called Ballerina? Well, La Rusca Roma is also a ballet school, and she was given one of these little glass things with a ballerina that moved around in it when she was a kid. So, you know, the ballerina. Killing without remorse requires a focused purpose. Have you noticed this? If you don't have it – and this is something you learn in this film – You can't just train to do this and train to do this. If you don't have something painful driving you inside, you're not going to be able to kill without remorse. You're going to think too much of the feelings of others. And she has something driving her, and that's revenge and great loss. Eve wants revenge for what happened to her father. But of course, she first has to prove her worth on a couple of missions, slicing and dicing her way while mastering her skills. Eventually, Eve learns disturbing truths about what happened to Dad, and these lead her to an Austrian mountain village, which was beautiful, by the way. Aren't they all? Austrian mountain villages.
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I think so, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, where almost everyone is an assassin. Eve is tracking a ruthless cult leader called the Chancellor, played by Gabrielle Byrne, and she also receives help from Winston, Ian McShane, and, of course, John Wick, Keanu Reeves. So you have nonstop killing scenes with bad guys and girls coming from everywhere. Can Eve get her revenge? Will she learn who to trust? Can anyone stop the ballerina? That's the story.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sounds good. Sounds really great.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, what works in ballerina? Diarmus, first of all, is as athletic as she is beautiful. Perfect caricature of deadly intensity. And she looks like a model. I mean, just right off a runway. Probably has done a lot of modeling. Too many girl action films show scenes where small girls somehow punch and wrestle as strong as muscle-bound men. It always looks silly, doesn't it? Does that bother you? It bothers me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because it typically doesn't happen that way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and you see this little girl throwing these big guys around just because, I don't know, she had leverage. And they make it clear in this movie, just having leverage isn't enough. That's not going to work. I like that. Ballerina battles are more realistic. now the fun set designs are there for killing like nightclub a weapon seller scene which is really terrific the killing that goes on in that one is really well done and the austrian town there's a nice blend of new and old characters cameos are fun but not obligatory i actually like them the fight scenes are inventive and fresh especially there's a flamethrower battle which is outstanding i mean ultra that'd be kind of cool yeah and it was cool Oh, here's something, John. No agenda. No gratuitous skin.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, think about that. You've got Ana de Armas, and you don't have any gratuitous skin. This is pretty cool. So they just make a movie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which is kind of true to John Wick, because that's really how they've been.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah, but I was kind of wondering if they would deviate when you've got Ana de Armas. I was thinking, okay, is this going to be a skin flick, an action skin flick, and that kind of thing. Nope. So good they didn't. Yeah, they didn't.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good for them.
SPEAKER 09 :
And finally, John Wick, he has more screen time than I expected in this. It was more than just a little cameo.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not just a cameo appearance, actually.
SPEAKER 09 :
He actually did more, and it works well. I enjoyed it. Okay, what doesn't work in ballerina? Well, Ana de Armas lacks that Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron charisma.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
She's just gutting it out. And so you've got this beautiful young actress gutting out this performance. You... You want to feel for the character because she's going through all these terrible things, right? But if they had gotten a much more interesting young actress, somebody who could bring more personality to the role, I think it really would have helped, John. And she really can't. The story gets tedious. It simply takes too long getting to the point. All right, get to it. Hurry up. At some point, you know, I've seen the same roll over and pull somebody over and then put the knife up into. I've seen it 18 times. Get to the point. All right, next. The whole ruthless leader of a deadly cult thing has been done so much. It's been done to death, literally. Some silly sequences. Like when she has a sword. Here's one that really drove me nuts. She has a sword. She's in the middle of a room. OK, she's got a sword and bad guys coming from everywhere. Well, they've all got guns, machine guns. All right. And a bunch of these guys with machine guns, they rush at her one by one so she can slice and dice them. Any of them could have just taken a step back and shot her at this in this scene. And most scenes were not like that. Most scenes were directed much better. This is toward the end. But I was just like, would you run out of stuff? Guys, this is really lame. I mean, come on. There's a side story with a little girl that adds nothing to the movie. They're trying to add some emotional punch and heft into this film that it was lacking. It didn't work. It just stretched it out. All right. Rotten Tomatoes gave this the same score as the previous movie, 77%. I like this better than the previous movie quality. I'm going to give it three and a half stars. It is not a great movie, but it's definitely a good movie. It's serviceable. It's kind of it's very different because she doesn't have his personality at all. It has, I think, more believable action and better set designs and so forth. In that way, it's kind of on the level of the beekeeper. All right. I probably enjoy the beekeeper a little more just because of his personality. It's much more compelling. But this has a lot of good things in it. So I'm going to give it three and a half stars. Political three, more religious three. Doesn't say a thing either way. I like that. Keep all that out. Just give me a movie. Ballerina. Do I recommend going to Ballerina? Yes, I do. And I've been looking forward to this movie for a long time. All right, this is a movie I really wanted to see. This is one of the, oh, probably a half dozen movies this summer that I really wanted to see.
SPEAKER 04 :
They've hyped it up pretty well.
SPEAKER 09 :
They have. They've hyped it up a lot. Look, it matched the hype. It didn't go past it, though. It wasn't a movie where they had a really interesting young actress who would really draw you in. Right. Who would be quirky in some way, interesting in some way, funny in some way, have the right, you know, interesting facial expressions that would convey something or would go ultimate deadpan and make it work that way. She doesn't do that either way. She's just a beautiful young woman having to go through hell to get where she wants to go. We've seen that 80 times, but not a bad movie. Do I recommend going to ballerina? Yes, I do. I think you'll have fun.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. We had our two movie reviews today, The Phoenician Scheme and Ballerina. And I usually get this question from time to time. What did Andy think of X movie? And then I'll go back in the notes, look, and so on. they're they're all um you know we've got them all listed you can go back in time on our shows and find them but uh as i as i do for folks that text in if there's a movie that you want to know what did andy think of it i i keep notes on that so it's not that hard for me to you know go back and find uh it's all indexed out on my end so it's not hard for me to go back and find a movie that andy's reviewed and then give you exactly what his score was i keep notes on all that so it's real simple so
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, can I really quick here? I've got my best list.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go for it. We've got time.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, I haven't done this for a few months.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let me get a question of the day out of the way real quick. Yeah, go ahead. Let's do that. And then you can do that. Then it gives us plenty of time that way. Yesterday, what type of masonry enables rocks to move during an earthquake? Ashlar masonry. Masonry. Masonry. I didn't know... This came from Machu Picchu. They use it there because that's an earthquake-proof city. So a little factoid that some of you now know that I didn't know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wait a minute. So it enables rocks to move during an earthquake.
SPEAKER 04 :
So things don't tumble down.
SPEAKER 09 :
They shift in a good way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they moved with it instead of against it, I guess you could say.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, all right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, there you go. Today's possible question, which actor was in the following movies? The Outsiders, Wayne's World, and Tommy Boy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, well, I know it off Wayne's World and Tommy Boy.
SPEAKER 04 :
There you go. So answer that on the Facebook page. Okay, give us your list there, Andy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, really quick here. This is from 2024 last year, and the reason this is kind of pertinent, why? Rentals. You can go back and look at some movies from last year and have some fun. Okay, first of all, my best movies of the year. Honorable mention, Saturday Night was surprisingly good, and One Life with Anthony Hopkins was pretty good. Number 10, Gladiator 2 was not a bad sequel. Not quite as tight and good as the first one, but it was good. Number 9, Reagan. A little long, but pretty good. Number 8, A Quiet Place Day 1, surprisingly well made.
SPEAKER 04 :
I have not seen that. I've got to stop and watch that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it was surprisingly well made. Number 7, Transformers 1. These are all four-star movies, and that was a really good movie.
SPEAKER 04 :
That was the cartoon, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Soren gave it five stars. He went to it because I recommended it. He said it was incredible. Number six, Cabrini. Pretty good little movie there. A little slow at times, very well acted, well done. Number five, Alien Romulus. Finally, another good Alien movie. Very scary, excellent action, edge of your seat, good stuff. Number four, Hard Miles, the movie about the bike... Bicycling Gear in Colorado.
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Yeah.
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And it was really, really very good. Number three, Ordinary Angels, which was a very good movie. Very touching and funny at the same time. Number two, The Wild Robot, a cartoon. It was a very good cartoon. Best one I've seen in a couple of years. And finally, number one, Young Woman in the Sea with Daisy Ridley as Gertrude Ederle. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Great movie. Yeah. Absolutely. Richard in Colorado Springs. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi, hi. Hey, I've got five movies I've seen in the last month. Okay. Oh, let's hear it. Okay. One is Novocaine. You seen that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I gave it a... That was probably my best movie of the year so far, or tied for best.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know. That was great. How about Sisu? S-I-S-U. Oh!
SPEAKER 09 :
I thought I was the only one who'd seen that. I gave Sisu either four or four and a half stars. I can't remember.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it was pretty up there.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was one of my top movies of 2023.
SPEAKER 05 :
Another great movie. Okay, Barnyard Party Animals. Did not see it. How was it? Oh, you've got to see it. Okay. That's all I can say. There's one thing, if you do see it, you're going to question. But otherwise, it's a really nice movie. Okay. And then Drive Angry with Nicolas Cage.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, I didn't see it. Nicholas has been running kind of hot and cold lately. How was that one?
SPEAKER 05 :
I liked it. I mean, I think it was different from most of the mainstream Nicholas Cage movies, but it was very compelling. Great action, too. Okay. And then the last one, Serbia with Canoes. Serbia? Serbia. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know it.
SPEAKER 05 :
It'll be worth your watch.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you, sir. Another departure for Canoe Reefs.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. How old the movie is, that one?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. How old? I don't know. I think it might have been 218. Okay. Okay. I'm not sure, but thanks for taking my call.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you're very welcome, Richard. Thanks for the add-on. Did you ever see Sizzu? No, it's another one I just... Oh, the second one. So by the time the second one's out, maybe I'll watch the first one.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's brutal, and I really enjoyed it. I gave it at least four stars, I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
So in anticipation of Accountant 2, I actually watched Accountant, the first one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, how'd you like it?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, it's a great movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, see, I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a great movie, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Really quick here. I want to give... There are a lot of... I'm just going to not say anything about them, but I'm going to reel off my 10 worst movies of the year. Number 10, Lisa Frankenstein. Oh, I got to throw in honorable mention, Trap.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Tarot. They were both bad.
SPEAKER 04 :
I've avoided those on purpose.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Lisa Frankenstein, number 10. Number 9, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Number 8, The Substance, which got 90%. It was terrible. Which one was that about? It's a...
SPEAKER 04 :
Demi Moore. Oh, it was the stupidest movie ever. Demi Moore. Yeah, I saw it. It was dumb.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I told people. It was the grossest movie I've ever seen. It got awesome reviews. I said, do not see this movie. It is a dud. Do not see it. It is gross. Number seven, The Crow. What a terrible remake. Number six, The Watchers. Boring. Number five, Imaginary. Boringer. Boringer. Number four, Dragon Keeper. Boringest. Oh, wait, there's three more. Number three, Joker 2. Oh, my gosh. What a disaster. Number two, Skin Care, which was just depressing beyond all get out. And once again, number one, Y2K, worst movie of probably the last two or three years. And then one last thing. I want to give five pleasant surprises up for the year of 2024. Honorable mention, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Surprisingly good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you liked it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. Number five, Arthur the King. Nobody knows about this movie except me and you. I liked it.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a great movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
I've been recommending it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, it's a great movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Number four, the little ballerina vampire, Abigail. Mm-hmm. Definitely worth a watch. Number three, if you like something more arty and scary, but really well made and incredible acting, Oddity. Number three. Number two, Land of Bad with Russell Crowe as a drone pilot.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
I thought it was very underrated. And finally, number one, most pleasant surprise was Flow. It's a cartoon about a little cat.
SPEAKER 04 :
No words. Yeah, that's the one with no words, right? No words at all. They don't speak, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Cartoon about a little cat surviving rising waters in a flood in a post-apocalyptic world. The people are all gone. Very surprisingly good. There you go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Anyway, that's a lot of movies you can rent.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah, and then we're going to get into more of those, of course, this next hour. For those of you maybe that don't know, favorite teen movies, and that's kind of its own genre, and we sort of insert some of those from time to time anyways, but we'll do full bore here this next hour. If you want to start texting in some of your answers, feel free to do so. Favorite teen movies, we'll do that next hour. Okay, one last thing I wanted to mention before we – and you're seeing this, and Andy and I can talk about more of this even on – But this came out in the Wall Street Journal today. Companies are quietly watering down their climate claims in the latest investor reports. In other words, figuring out no one cares, Andy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. It's all part of companies leaving woke.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. No one cares. In fact, some might even not invest with you because you are doing that nonsense.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Right. Well, it's really surprising to see companies actually wanting to do this thing called making money.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, profit.
SPEAKER 09 :
What a thought. Profit. In other words, rewarding merit and rewarding real science, not junk science.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, for example, American Airlines highlighted its focus on ambitious climate goals in a report last year. This year, just a few weeks ago, nothing about that at all. Phrase is gone.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nobody cares. Totally gone. You know why? Because everybody cares about drill, baby, drill. People want our own energy. People... They've had it. Why did it take people so long? I mean, you've got a million predictions from people like Al Gore that came totally not true.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think between them not coming true for one, Andy, and then I think, and Grant, I know the hardcore lefties, they think you and I are crazy that they are coming true and this stuff is happening. You're a loony because it isn't. It ain't happening.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
But between that and them looking at, okay, what is this actually costing me at the end of the day? And, oh, by the way, all of you that are promoting this are the same guys flying around on your private jets telling me I can't drive.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right?
SPEAKER 09 :
They're guilty by hypocrisy, and they're also guilty by, you know, association with other issues. The same people who believe that we've got this climate apocalypse coming also believe men can have babies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean—
SPEAKER 04 :
They're the craziest, the craziest, the craziest. No, you're right, Andy.
SPEAKER 09 :
They also believe we don't need a border. They also believe that there's nothing different about having a lot of people from Arab lands move in here versus some other lands. They don't think you need to vet them. And they don't care that a bunch of killing happens as a result. They shut their eyes to everything real. They say, go ahead, let that guy into the girls' locker room, no problem. And I think people are just looking at them saying, we don't want to hear any of what you say. And what's happening right now with these companies abandoning the environmental nutsiness is just the latest part of it. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree, and I think a lot of them are finally realizing that, A, this is costing us bottom line. Yeah. B, there's a lot of customers, a lot of consumers out there that not only, A, care about it, but might even be turned off in doing business with us if that's all we focus on. And I get it. There's some of those companies, Andy, where they are hardcore to that 30% of individuals that are hardcore lefties that are going to go buy that product just because it's some renewable whatever, whatever, whatever. But that's not the majority of companies. And you have to be a niche company to even make money in that world, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I agree. John, sorry to stroke your ego here, but you are a brilliant businessman. You really are. So what I want to ask you a question is, look at the state of California.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
What if they did the exact same thing? No, seriously. With all their environmentalist nutso regulations, what if they remove them all tomorrow? What would happen with their economy over the next five years?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, first of all, instead of having an exodus of people leaving, you'd have the opposite. Right. Many more people would be coming back because they do have some of the best weather, climate, all of that of probably any state in the country.
SPEAKER 09 :
And resources.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, they are loaded with, we always talk about their oil off the coast, but they also have minerals. They've got it all there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Agriculture, the whole nine yards.
SPEAKER 09 :
How about logging?
SPEAKER 04 :
They got it all. Oh, my gosh. I mean, it's such a big state. They have so many different things going. Yeah, to your point, Andy, if they would drop some of this nonsensical things they do along those lines, it would be, if they did what a DeSantis does in Florida, it would be like Florida, only on the West Coast.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so let me ask you, is Florida, do they have no trees there anymore?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, they have a lot still.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is the climate completely destroyed in Florida?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it is not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, okay. Is it just smog everywhere you go in Florida?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it is not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, that's weird.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it's not. I mean, amazingly enough, Andy, no, it's not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's just some of these things that – and we get into this even in Colorado where our own governor and legislatures here – get off on some of these tangents that at the end of the day all it's doing is driving up prices, period. There is not going to be a net gain, Andy, at all. The other thing, just a side note, and then we'll talk more Tuesday, but this whole idea that something can be carbon neutral, there's no such thing, folks. No, it's a myth. That term is a lie, period. It shouldn't be spoken because it's a lie. There's no such thing.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you know what the next lie is? That you need to be carbon neutral.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you. Even bigger lie. Yeah. There's no benefit to it at all. There's no such thing. So how are you going to be something you can't be?
SPEAKER 09 :
You can't.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's stupid. It's unattainable.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, no such thing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. You look at Nate. Now, don't get me wrong. There is such a thing, especially we see it in China where they do it poorly. Right. There is such a thing as beating the living hell out of Mother Nature. I agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
And misusing it. And in that way, I'm glad that we have the environmentalists to give us the conscience on that. Hey, when you're going to do coal, do it right. When you're going to do oil, do it right. But we do it right. So what's the problem?
SPEAKER 04 :
We do.
SPEAKER 09 :
And how about nuclear?
SPEAKER 04 :
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Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. Got a minute left. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Some of you already giving us suggestions for teen movies coming up next hour, which we appreciate. Also, some of you reporting in the weather from up north, which it looks like it's much worse up north than it is where we are down south. But what I noticed this morning, according to the predictions, is it's going to move this way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep, I agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
And he's going to move his car.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I'm going to. Really quick here, John. Best decades for teen movies. I'm going to say 80s and 90s. And the reason is, when Woke came in, the quality of teen movies went down.
SPEAKER 04 :
Am I right? Yeah, you couldn't do the same things anymore. Even though it was funny, we thought it was funny. The world thought it was funny. They stopped making them. Right. Couldn't do them anymore.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because if you want to use teen movies to preach, you've lost it. That's not what they're for. No.
SPEAKER 04 :
We have no interest in that. We're there to have a good time. Yeah. That's kind of why you do them in the first place. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Teen movies are supposed to be escapism.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Take you back in time, all that. Absolutely. Yes. And they, again, it's funny. Give something to the left. And they'll screw it up. Sort of like government. If you want something screwed up, just give it to them and they will. All right, we'll be back in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 23 :
No, you just need to have some teens in the movie who are prominent.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 20 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard, are you with us now? That I am. Okay, so you're up north. What is the weather like before we get going? I mean, it's getting ready to storm. It's nothing like crazy. Okay, so those of you out and about, be paying attention. All right, Andy, take it away. Lead us off.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, we've got to start with one where there's virtually nothing in this movie I can play, but I have to anyway, and I think it's probably the best teen movie ever made. Not another teen movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, it's Sandy. It is, dude.
SPEAKER 23 :
And at this point, they steal a scene because they're spoofing all the other teen movies. And they steal a scene from another movie that I'm going to be doing called Bring It On. And it's about cheerleaders. It's hilarious. And you've got the all-white cheerleading team. And the black cheerleader girls from the rival school, and they're in a cheerleading competition, come up and talk to them and say, you're stealing our stuff. Here we go.
SPEAKER 28 :
Don't think you fooling us because we saw you at our practice and I know you stole our routine. Kate, I don't know what you're talking about because we've always done our own cheers. Right, girls? That's right. Well, then you better bring it. Oh, it's already been brought.
SPEAKER 1 :
Nice comeback.
SPEAKER 25 :
We are the North Compton Wildcats We're black, we know it We shake our big booties and show it We ain't white, we ain't white We definitely ain't white So bad
SPEAKER 23 :
So bad. Now, the girl, she was so funny.
SPEAKER 20 :
Isn't Jamie Presley in that? Isn't she one of the... She might have been, yeah. I think she's the one cheerleader, if I'm not mistaken. I lose track of who's who. And it is hilarious. That whole movie is just one... It's like that only one scene after another after another, Andy.
SPEAKER 23 :
And the scenes, and by the way, virtually all of it is so disgusting.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's hilarious, though. They can't play it. It's so hilarious.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's almost Team America level.
SPEAKER 20 :
Not quite, but it's close.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's right about almost Team America level disgusting.
SPEAKER 20 :
To your point, what makes it so funny is they're making fun of every other famous teen movie. Oh, yeah. Literally. And it's hilarious.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, it's great.
SPEAKER 20 :
Anyways. All right, Richard.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, so teen movies, like movies with teens that you watched when you were a teen?
SPEAKER 20 :
Or actual, you know, there were back in the day a genre of, we don't do it anymore because they're too offensive, but, or just teen movies. So they were genres of teens.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, basically movies where teens play a prominent role.
SPEAKER 21 :
Right. Because if we're watching movies that you guys watch when you're a teenage, we would be watching black and white. Oh, jeez, it wasn't that bad.
SPEAKER 23 :
Actually, Richard, what you didn't know, Richard, is that actually in John and my childhood, all of life was black and white. It wasn't just in the movies. Everywhere you went, all this color stuff has really been disorienting for me. But anyway, you're up.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, so if that's the case, I'm going to go with one, Andy. It probably is on your list. Clueless. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, Clueless is... It's on my list.
SPEAKER 21 :
Clueless is... Which has a really good conservative gal in there with... What's her name? Oh, yeah. Stacey, the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I spaced her name. Second in command, right?
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah. She was really funny, too. I thought she was really good. Here's just a little bit from Clueless.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't know why Dion's going out with a high school boy. They're like dogs. You have to clean them and feed them, and they're just like these nervous creatures that jump and slobber all over you. Ew! Get off of me! Ugh, as if! We got another notice from the fire department saying we have to clear out the bush. You said you were going to get Jose to do it. He's your gardener. Why you don't come in? Lucy, you know I don't speak Mexican. I'm not a Mexican! Great, what was that all about?
SPEAKER 14 :
Lucy's from El Salvador.
SPEAKER 20 :
so it's an entirely different country what does that matter you get upset if someone thinks you live below sunset good point that was that was very funny i thought john you're up oh man there's so many okay i'm gonna do a little i'm gonna do something a little bit old school just because of richard's comments a moment ago and you're old yeah yeah because i'm old let's do american graffiti
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, that is old school.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is. And it's classic. Okay, was it not one of the first, I mean, probably not the first teen movie, but one of the first popular teen movies, right? Am I pretty close in saying that?
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah. I would say it was the... Sort of started that whole... Yeah, I mean, there's one that came before it that was really popular, but that was definitely one of the early popular teen movies. Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER 20 :
Kind of started the whole genre, right?
SPEAKER 23 :
Yep. Okay, I'm going to go to, got to go to it now. If we're going old, old movies, well before Richard's time, before they had film, actually.
SPEAKER 20 :
Before they had film.
SPEAKER 23 :
This was done in paintings. Oh, gotcha. No, the teen musical, the most well-known one of all time, Grease. Here we go.
SPEAKER 27 :
Summer fling, don't need a thing, but I'm on the self of my life.
SPEAKER 23 :
And it goes on. But that movie had truly outstanding music.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes. I mean, really. Yeah, I'll give you that.
SPEAKER 23 :
Really great soundtrack. Richard, did you ever at least see any of the songs?
SPEAKER 21 :
Andy, I was not allowed to watch these movies. They were forbidden. It was like watching Satan in our house. This is a musical.
SPEAKER 20 :
She didn't watch musicals.
SPEAKER 23 :
No, I keep forgetting, no happiness allowed in Richard's childhood.
SPEAKER 20 :
We did not watch musicals.
SPEAKER 23 :
Andy, my happiness is a bottomless pit of sorrow. Do your kids get to see any happiness, or are you just too well-trained? Yes, Andy, I'm trying to break the cycle of sorrowness. So I'm trying to embark upon them some joy. Now remember, when Grandpa leaves, let's all smile. You are correct. We have to be very serious. Not too many smiles around.
SPEAKER 19 :
I understand.
SPEAKER 23 :
I understand. Well, keep the misery going. You are up, Richard.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, this will be in honor of my wife. I don't know if she's listening or not, but we'll see. Which is High School Musical, Andy. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
High School Musical.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yep. That also had some good music. Not on the level of Grease, but it had some very good music.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, you know, again, Andy, when you have to watch these in the dwindling night at 2 a.m. in order to avoid the hate that stems from... Dad, this is what you have to do, and your options are few and far between.
SPEAKER 23 :
What was it like putting your dad to bed every night? Did you have to drug him? I mean, what did you have to do to get him out so you could go and do fun stuff?
SPEAKER 21 :
He would end up going to bed before me because I'm a known procrastinator, and so when it would come to schoolwork and stuff, he would just go to bed. Just kind of hopefully I'll figure it out. It's a good plan.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, that's pretty much it. John, you're up. I can't believe we're being chased by Guido the Killer Pimp. Risky business.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, yeah. That is one of my favorites. It really is.
SPEAKER 20 :
That was a great movie.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Let's go to Bring It On.
SPEAKER 24 :
We'll try it all day. Awesome. Oh, wow. Like, totally freaked me out. I mean, right on.
SPEAKER 12 :
The tour, sure. Number one. I transferred from Los Angeles. Your school has no gymnastics team. This is a last resort.
SPEAKER 20 :
Is that a cheerleading movie? Is that what I'm thinking, right? Okay, so I've never cheered before.
SPEAKER 33 :
So what? How about something that actually requires neurons? Do it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Something that requires neurons.
SPEAKER 23 :
Neurons, yes. Bring It On was actually a surprisingly pretty good movie. It is, but it's a cheerleading movie, right? Oh, yeah. Kirsten Dunst is in it, who I really like. So there you go. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, I did this one last week, but it still isn't going to count because it's about teenagers, you know, stuck in a school, which is Breakfast Club. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's probably... Anytime I get a chance to mention it.
SPEAKER 20 :
That is probably one of the... It's got to be in, like, the top five of all-time teen movies. Am I right?
SPEAKER 23 :
Here's a little from the trailer.
SPEAKER 17 :
I have exactly 8 hours and 54 minutes to ponder the error of your ways. Any questions?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Does Barry Manilow know that you raid his wardrobe?
SPEAKER 18 :
A brain, a beauty, a jock, a rebel, and a recluse.
SPEAKER 17 :
I can't believe this is really happening to me.
SPEAKER 18 :
Before this day is over, they'll break the rules.
SPEAKER 34 :
Chicks, can I hold a smoke? That's what it is.
SPEAKER 18 :
Bear their souls. I'm a nymphomaniac. Are your parents aware of this? Take some chances.
SPEAKER 39 :
Being bad feels pretty good.
SPEAKER 18 :
And touch each other in a way they never dreamed possible. Why'd you do that?
SPEAKER 27 :
Because I knew you wouldn't.
SPEAKER 23 :
Now, The Breakfast Club, that's when they actually did a thing called writing.
SPEAKER 20 :
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 23 :
And that was just a very well-written movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, because there's not a lot going on in that movie other than them.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, you know what it reminds me a little bit of is the TV show Friends. Even though that's people in their 20s, but it is just very, very well written with some very good comedic actors all put together and just unleashed.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yep, absolutely. Absolutely. Good one.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, John.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm up. And then we'll go to the phones. Let's see. I was not allowed to watch this when I was younger, and I think Dan and I used to talk about this a lot when he was here. Porky's. Geez.
SPEAKER 23 :
No. Yeah. By the way, I never saw Porky's, believe it or not.
SPEAKER 20 :
I don't know that I've seen an entire thing from beginning to end.
SPEAKER 23 :
How can I be an atheist kid and not see Porky's?
SPEAKER 20 :
That is a great question.
SPEAKER 23 :
I was a lousy kid. Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
John, you're up.
SPEAKER 22 :
Sorry, I'm laughing that Andy never saw Porky.
SPEAKER 23 :
I was a good kid. I have no idea why. I didn't have to be, but I was. It was a corny movie to be. I was rebellious.
SPEAKER 22 :
I've seen Porky's more than once. It is very funny. Very funny. A little on the raunchy side, though.
SPEAKER 20 :
A little, yes.
SPEAKER 23 :
Just a smidge. Just a little.
SPEAKER 20 :
Just a smidge. John, did you hear it? And he said, from what he's heard.
SPEAKER 23 :
No, serious. I've heard all about Porky's.
SPEAKER 22 :
I actually have.
SPEAKER 23 :
I just never saw it.
SPEAKER 22 :
A very young, a very beautiful Kim Cattrall was in Porky's. Well, okay then. My wife gave me two from her list. The first one was Adventures in Babysitting, the original. Very funny. Good movie. Yeah, it's on my list. And the other one she gave me was Vision Quest. Oh, yeah. Oh, good movie.
SPEAKER 23 :
I did not think of that.
SPEAKER 22 :
That's a good movie. And, oh, that's a great movie. And then I got two oldies. I'm going to go way back on you in the way back machine. How about American Graffiti?
SPEAKER 20 :
I did that one.
SPEAKER 22 :
That was my first. We just jumped in the car. Sorry.
SPEAKER 20 :
That was my first one today.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, okay. That's a great movie, John.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and what I said was, you probably missed it, but that really, I think, John, set the tone for teen movies moving forward. It was really one of the originals.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, absolutely. And the other one I have goes back to the early 80s. Do you remember a movie called Hollywood Nights?
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah, but it's been a long time since I've seen it.
SPEAKER 22 :
I remember it, but I don't remember it. You know what I mean? The best... It was a good movie, but one of the things I loved about that most is I think Michelle Pfeiffer was about 18 and stole the movie. Yeah, but it had Robert Wall, Tony Danza. It's worth another watch because the jokes are still funny. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, they can't make those today.
SPEAKER 22 :
Hey, guys. Have a good weekend.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right, John. Appreciate you very much. Let's go to Dave and Thornton. Dave, go ahead.
SPEAKER 33 :
Yeah, just a real quick weather thing. It's cloudy and it's really windy. I don't know. It looks like it's going to get pretty rough. Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
Good to know.
SPEAKER 33 :
No rain yet. But anyway, my selection goes way back to Matt Dillon's first movie. It's a movie called Over the Edge.
SPEAKER 20 :
Over the Edge.
SPEAKER 33 :
It's part of the workforce movie trivia. I have not seen it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Me neither.
SPEAKER 33 :
Part of that movie was filmed up in Greeley in the Evans area.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 33 :
Good to know. Okay. The other one I really liked is, I still like going back and watching it, is Hazed and Confused.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 33 :
That one really just fits really good to the whole high school thing.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think that's on my list, so yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. Good one.
SPEAKER 33 :
Yeah. Definitely. And, you know, John had already brought up Hollywood Nights, and then, of course... when you brought up American Graffiti. But then, of course, you know, it really hit with me was the whole cruising scene.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 33 :
And I really think that a lot of kids in the last 20, 30 years are really missing something.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, they missed out. Absolutely, Dave. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 33 :
There was really something cool about that. And I can remember here in Colorado anyway, I don't know about anywhere else, but when local municipalities started cracking down, on the whole cruising thing, I always thought it was kind of stupid because if you were a parent and you wanted to know where your kid was, all you had to do was go down to the strip, park on the side of the road, and eventually you'd see him.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 33 :
And you'd say, hey, what are you doing here? You know, Dave, it's really interesting that— Any kind of trouble would be localized.
SPEAKER 23 :
Sorry, go ahead. I cut you off. Go ahead, Dave.
SPEAKER 33 :
No, no, no. Any kind of trouble that they might have got into would be localized right on that strip. So it made policing so much easier also, but my opinion, whatever.
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, you know, it's really interesting, and Dave, I'm going to put this to you, but John, you tell me what you think. Back then, when you look at 80s, 90s, 70s, 60s, okay, so 60s through the 90s, most of the car movies were about teenagers getting freedom in cars. That's right. Now, in the last couple decades, car movies are about adults. Okay. True. Yeah, you're talking Fast and Furious. You're talking, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER 23 :
About stealing cars and cool cars and everything. And back then, most of the cool car movies were actually with kids.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. Does that make sense? No, you're right. No, you're absolutely right, Andy. Yes. I have no idea what that is. Yeah, why the change?
SPEAKER 33 :
Yeah. And, you know, it was a little more realistic because, you know, what kids, I mean, maybe they can now these days, but Who can afford that Fast and Furious kind of car?
SPEAKER 20 :
No one.
SPEAKER 33 :
You're looking at a $60,000 car as a teenager.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, no one. That's where, to your point, that's probably why I don't watch those movies, Dave, is because the realisticness of it versus what you saw in, for example, American Graffiti, two totally different things. American Graffiti were guys that were actually affording to do what they could do. Everybody did it. The majority, I should say, did it. And yet, Fast and Furious, no one can do it.
SPEAKER 33 :
He ended up getting your grandparent's hand-me-down Chevy.
SPEAKER 20 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 33 :
That's right. When he turned 15 or something like that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 33 :
Then it was up to you, as you could afford it, to customize it to your taste. That's right. Engine work, whatever. Well, really quick here.
SPEAKER 23 :
Really quick here. I want to throw this to Richard because, Richard, you're in your teens. You're very young.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, someone like that, Andy.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, I know. Well, you're what, 14, 15? Your marriage is going well. Do you have any idea why car movies today are almost always adults and car movies back then were almost always young people?
SPEAKER 21 :
Maybe because the young people that were back then, Andy, are the only ones that will make the car movies today.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, that's well done. That's good. You're probably right. Actually, you're probably correct on that, Richard. Yeah. Good observation. Dave, good observation on your part, too. All right, Dave, I'll let you go. Appreciate it very much. All right, Andy, you're up because I did the last one, so you're up.
SPEAKER 23 :
Dave had his hands full.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, he did. That's actually Richard.
SPEAKER 23 :
That's Richard.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's not Dave. That's Richard. Oh, okay. It goes back and forth.
SPEAKER 23 :
Richard, do you have your hands full?
SPEAKER 20 :
Slightly. Okay, slightly, yes.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, well, here's one that we've all heard. It's pretty easy, and it's from their trailer. Way back, 1985.
SPEAKER 29 :
And 1985 is not his year. But Dr. Brown is about to change all that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Are you telling me you built a time machine out of a DeLorean?
SPEAKER 29 :
He's sending Marty 30 years back in time.
SPEAKER 25 :
It works! It's a floating saucer from outer space!
SPEAKER 29 :
Now, he's trapped in the past. This has got to be a dream. About to meet... Chocolate. His future father.
SPEAKER 23 :
wow and he's making an impression on his mother he's an absolute dream okay back to the future michael j fox one of the greatest most fun and interesting charismatic young actors i have ever seen in my life what do you think yeah no i agree absolutely richard what do you think absolutely i was it was next on my list andy of course oh well i feel good that i took it from you You see, John is teaching me how to steal your happiness, and I'm learning.
SPEAKER 21 :
The only happiness we had, Andy. You're up. All right. Emma, this is sort of a teenage movie, but Emma's going to say it. Go ahead, Emma.
SPEAKER 05 :
Ariel.
SPEAKER 21 :
Ariel. Ariel. Oh! Little Mermaid, because she's like a teenager, right, Andy? She kind of runs away, you know?
SPEAKER 23 :
Not only is she a little terrible, I want you to tell her that she stole my next one. So here, I'm going to play a bit.
SPEAKER 26 :
on land they understand that they don't reprimand their daughters bright young women sick of swimming ready to stand and ready to know what the people know ask them my questions and get some answers what's a fire and why does it what's the word
SPEAKER 23 :
Now, in the modern version, it's what is a Tesla, and why does it, what's the word, burn? Oh, jeez. Bad Andy. Well, the left has taken over. What can I say? Good job, Richard. Well, thank you.
SPEAKER 20 :
John, you're up. I'm up. I'm up. It is up to me now. I've got several from listeners that I'll do once we do this, take a quick break after that, though. In the meantime, let's do Footloose.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah. Yeah. That was a classic, wasn't it? Great movie. So good. So good.
SPEAKER 20 :
Second one wasn't as good. First one was the best.
SPEAKER 23 :
I didn't even watch the second one.
SPEAKER 20 :
I didn't bother. It wasn't worth watching.
SPEAKER 23 :
By the way, the second Grease, I never bothered.
SPEAKER 20 :
Kind of the same deal. Yeah. All right. We'll come right back. Listen up. Al Smith's got a great interview coming up. We'll be back right after that. Golden Eagle Financial.
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SPEAKER 20 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. We are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. All right, favorite teen movies. Andy, take it away.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, this is actually quite possibly my favorite teen movie. It's certainly in my top five, and it's a very old one with a very young John Cusack in Better Off Dead. Here we go.
SPEAKER 32 :
What do they want? They want a race.
SPEAKER 29 :
One mile. A kid from Green Bay.
SPEAKER 32 :
See, here's a good example. Two brothers, one speaks no English, the other learned how to speak English from watching the wide world of sports. You tell me, which is better, speaking no English at all or speaking Howard Cosell?
SPEAKER 1 :
They're Asian.
SPEAKER 38 :
You must obey the proper speed limits.
SPEAKER 32 :
A car is not a toy.
SPEAKER 20 :
I haven't seen that movie for a long time.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, these two Asian guys always pull up next to him to race him.
SPEAKER 20 :
I know. Speaking like Howard Cosell.
SPEAKER 23 :
Speaking like Howard Cosell. They got loudspeakers on top of their heads.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's hilarious.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's bizarre. The whole movie is bizarre.
SPEAKER 20 :
But it's funny.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's very funny. Very funny. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't think we said this one yet. And Andy, weirdly, oddly, we should have considering it was the anniversary of it yesterday or the day that he took off. which is Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Yeah. I actually don't have a clip. I've played so many. I mean, I know schools are in session later and later. How were they having school in early June in Chicago?
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, who knows?
SPEAKER 21 :
It's a movie. I mean, I know it's a movie, Andy, but let's get a little realism here. Well, no wonder he got out of it. I mean, that makes sense.
SPEAKER 23 :
I would have been out of school, too. Yeah, there you go. John, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
Let's do Easy A. Easy A. Okay, I got a little clip here. Okay, go for it.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, and here's the families together. They're all white except they adopted a black boy who's in it. And at one point, the kid is frustrated because he wants to grow up quicker. Here we go.
SPEAKER 12 :
We're a family of late bloomers. I didn't until I was 14, nor did Olive.
SPEAKER 06 :
What does that matter? I'm adopted. What?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my God! Who told you? Guys, we were gonna do this at the right time. Listen to me. Sometimes, even when a man and a woman love each other very much, like your mother and I used to, their insides just don't cooperate with each other.
SPEAKER 24 :
What's going on, honey? Why do you want us to take a bullet if anyone asks if you were here all weekend? It's nothing. It's just the rumor.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, it's just... Very funny. And that was Stanley Tucci, and he's a very funny actor, and he was the dad.
SPEAKER 20 :
Very cool.
SPEAKER 23 :
There you go. Am I up next? Was that you?
SPEAKER 20 :
Or no? That was me. You're up.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, okay. Okay, this is a serious movie, October Sky, and they were teens in it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Good one.
SPEAKER 23 :
And here is where he's talking to his dad, and his dad is the coal miner, and he is the dreamer.
SPEAKER 38 :
Here you met your big hero. Didn't even know it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, I know you and me don't exactly see eye to eye on certain things. I mean, we don't see eye to eye on just about anything. But, Dad, I come to believe that I got it in me to be somebody in this world. And it's not because I'm so different from you either. It's because I'm the same. mean i can be just as hard-headed and just as tough i only hope i can be as good a man as you are i mean sure dr ron brown's a great scientist but he isn't my hero great scene absolutely great scene richard have you ever seen october sky
SPEAKER 21 :
Andy, because it was a serious movie. We were allowed to watch it. Don't you worry. Okay.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's a good movie. It is really good, though, isn't it?
SPEAKER 21 :
It is. Okay, you're up. I have that one on VHS, Andy.
SPEAKER 20 :
Kids don't know it. I probably still have that movie on VHS somewhere. I have to dig it out. You're kidding me. No, I'm not joking.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm not.
SPEAKER 21 :
Go ahead, Richard. Isn't it weird how, real quick, how we've gone, obviously, you know, you guys, old people, you know, not having movies, right? They had to, like, stitch them together. And then, you know, like, wooden figures. And then you guys had, obviously, like, cassettes and whatever it is. And then we had VHS tapes.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, but really quick on movies, before VHS... If you wanted to go see a movie, you either waited until it was on television, and hopefully you caught it when it was actually on, and you watched all the previews and the TV guide and all of that, because if you missed it, you were screwed. You weren't going to see it until it was on again. And or you went to the theater, one of the two. That was the only way you could watch a movie. Right, Andy?
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, yeah. Well, in fact, back in those days, this is when people talked like this. I got to get home in time for X. Filling the show.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's right. That's going to be on. Happy days, whatever it was.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, now it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER 20 :
No, exactly. Our whole world ran around how soon you could get home to watch X. Yeah, our whole world, the whole schedule.
SPEAKER 23 :
Everybody would want to get home to watch Happy Days.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right, one other thing I've got to throw into that.
SPEAKER 23 :
All in the family.
SPEAKER 20 :
Meaning if you wanted to call someone and you knew they were going to be home, you knew what they watched on television, and you knew if they would be home or not, so if you called, you'd get them.
SPEAKER 23 :
Right. I know you're home. You're home watching the show.
SPEAKER 20 :
You never miss it. Answer. Exactly.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah. I mean, it's totally fun. It is incredible. You never miss MASH.
SPEAKER 20 :
No. No. Wow. Anyways, way different than today, Richard.
SPEAKER 21 :
You are correct. Well, yeah. Today, anything at your fingertips. I mean, again, my kids don't even know what a DVD is.
SPEAKER 20 :
I guess that's true. Never thought about that. This month, I churned 162. Wow. Wow.
SPEAKER 21 :
You should.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right. I will go with a – it's got teenagers in it. It's not maybe considered a teen movie, Andy, but, again, one of the few movies I could watch in childhood. I think we had this one on VHS. We didn't have the original. We had this one. That's why I named it this one. And the kids were a little bit older, which is D2, The Mighty Ducks, Andy. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's good. The original wasn't as good. I mean, I don't think – I actually think the second one was better.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah. I like them both. Good, good one, good one. Both really good. Okay, I thought of one as you guys were talking about all of that, and that was Weird Science, which wasn't on my list, but I just added it. Oh, yeah. Weird movie. Funny. It was a funny movie. Yeah, it was.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, how about this one? Here we go. Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Here we go.
SPEAKER 34 :
Who is Joan of Arc?
SPEAKER 09 :
And Ted.
SPEAKER 04 :
Noah's wife? We are in danger of flunking most heinously tomorrow.
SPEAKER 09 :
A force from the future.
SPEAKER 15 :
Can we go anywhere we want at any time? You can do anything you want.
SPEAKER 18 :
Is putting history at their fingertips.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let's reach out and touch someone.
SPEAKER 18 :
They're traveling through time.
SPEAKER 05 :
How's it going, royal ugly dudes? Put them in the Iron Maiden. Excellent.
SPEAKER 23 :
Excellent. The Iron Maiden. They think they're in a band. Excellent. Yeah. Sounds pretty good.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's pretty funny.
SPEAKER 23 :
Way before your time, Richard.
SPEAKER 20 :
No kidding, Andy.
SPEAKER 23 :
That entire movie was shown in still life photos. Oh, jeez. You're up.
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm up already?
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, I just did Bill and Ted.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, this is going to date me because, again, before my time, but still another good one. Kind of in the same vein as Breakfast Club, 16 Candles.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah. That's on my list. That's up towards the top of my list.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's a good one.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I can't argue that.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right, because this was popular when I was in high school or shortly thereafter and was a very popular movie at the time. I watch it now and it's like, man, it was really cheesy, but it was really popular then, Fast Time at Ridgemont High.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah. That was a fun movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
You watch it now, it's kind of cheesy. Huh, Richard? It's one of your favorites. It's a great movie.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's very cheesy.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is cheesy, though.
SPEAKER 23 :
And very dated.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is now, absolutely.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah. Okay, well, I played this one before. This is a... A zombie musical that was actually made in Scotland called Anna and the Apocalypse. Here we go.
SPEAKER 37 :
More than a lost piece weighed in a fit. I'm not a princess sat in a white dress hoping my chance will come. Then I'm a problem, don't want to solve them, just want to have some fun.
SPEAKER 28 :
Cause no one ever tells you when you're young. Love's not like the books, the films, or the songs. We've been living in a lie for far too long. We're tired of pretending. There's no such thing as a Hollywood ending.
SPEAKER 23 :
That movie had terrific music. I mean, it really did. It had a great soundtrack. And like I said, it came out of nowhere, out of Scotland, and did big business.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's the other thing, Richard. That was just a few years ago. You're talking about going back in time. That was the other thing, that when we were kids, it's not so much today, although they do some soundtracks, but when we were kids... a good movie, you'd go buy the cassette tape soundtrack to the movie you watched and listen over and over and over again. Right. That was a big deal.
SPEAKER 21 :
I know, Dad. Now we have, like, hi-fi audio, so you don't have to listen to the grainy scratchiness.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER 21 :
But you're correct.
SPEAKER 20 :
I know. Fast forward, rewind, all that. I get it. These newfangled days.
SPEAKER 21 :
Speaking of soundtracks, I just saw this. Are you... Ready, because I'm sure you saw The Mission Impossible and didn't hear your review. Yes, I'm a bad person. Are you ready for the F1 movie with Brad Pitt? Because that's an Apple movie, and supposedly the soundtrack is really good on it.
SPEAKER 23 :
I'm very, very psyched for F1. That's one of the half-dozen movies I'm very psyched for this summer.
SPEAKER 21 :
They say it's good. They say it actually lives up to the old... Yeah, to the hype that it's just a good old-fashioned summer blockbuster.
SPEAKER 23 :
I hope it does. It's so hard to say. A lot of these early reviews come out, and what they're doing is trying to pump it up. It's all the fans. Well, and it's also some reviewers who are trying to be kind of in good with the network. Usually one of two things happen. Either you hear really, really good things about a movie, or, oh my gosh, they need to do retakes. And this is nothing like that. So apparently it's going to be very good. I think it looks like a lot of fun.
SPEAKER 19 :
Good to know. Who's up?
SPEAKER 21 :
It's me.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, okay. Go for it.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, I'm going to go with one. Maybe not, but it's kind of fun. Whatever it is. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yep.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's one of mine. There are a couple of them, too. There are like a couple. Good old-fashioned movie, right, Andy? Oh, it's fun. I like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 23 :
I like Michelangelo.
SPEAKER 20 :
Go ahead. Let's see. I'm going to try to name a few that have come in on the text line. Let me do a couple. Romeo and Juliet, Encino Man, and Stand By Me. Now, is Encino Man really a kid flick? I don't remember it, so I've got to look that one up. Okay. Because that one off the top of my head doesn't... I'm not super familiar with it.
SPEAKER 23 :
You know, about the caveman. I know he's a caveman. Was he... Oh, he was a teenage caveman.
SPEAKER 20 :
Teenage caveman. Okay. Well, very good.
SPEAKER 23 :
Very good.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. That's why.
SPEAKER 23 :
But he was actually thousands of years old, so it doesn't really apply.
SPEAKER 20 :
So he's not really a teen.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, I don't think so. Okay. I'm going to go with... Here we go. The dad talking to his daughter, and the dad is a... Well, he's a doctor. Talking to her in 10 Things I Hate About You.
SPEAKER 24 :
Can we for two seconds ignore the fact that you're severely unhinged and discuss my need for a night of teenage normalcy?
SPEAKER 09 :
What's normal? Those damn Dawson's River kids sleeping in each other's beds and whatnot?
SPEAKER 12 :
Daddy, that is so not... I've got news for you.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm down, I've got the 411, and you are not going out and getting jiggy with some boy. I don't care how dope his ride is. Ugh! My mama didn't raise no fool.
SPEAKER 20 :
How dope his ride is.
SPEAKER 23 :
Ten Things I Hate About You. And for anyone who has not seen Ten Things I Hate About You, please see it. Trust me on this. It's a very good movie. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, Andy. I don't think I've seen bits and pieces of this movie, considering it came out when I was born. But Juice was old Tupac.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, Juice? Wow. I don't know if I've ever seen it.
SPEAKER 21 :
Probably not quite up your realm of a movie, Dad.
SPEAKER 20 :
No, that would not be up my alley.
SPEAKER 23 :
Mine either, but okay. Well done.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Some of these are so familiar. I'm trying to get ones that we don't think of all the time. Heathers.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, Heathers was good. Christian Slater was so evil in that movie. I really enjoyed it. Okay, really quick here. Classic movie, Say Anything. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 26 :
Diane Court doesn't go out. She's a brain trapped in the body of a game show hostess. We don't want to see you get hurt.
SPEAKER 31 :
I want to get hurt.
SPEAKER 26 :
Diane Court.
SPEAKER 28 :
Hello, Diane?
SPEAKER 31 :
Hi. Lloyd Dalbo, sir. I'm an athlete, so I rarely drink. I can kickboxing. You ever heard of kickboxing, sport of the future? I can see by your face, no. My point is you can relax because your daughter will be safe with me for the next seven to eight hours, sir.
SPEAKER 20 :
Is that Cusack again?
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, that was Sean Cusack. I'm telling you what, boy, back before he became a wacko.
SPEAKER 20 :
I know, he made some great movies.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, he made some wonderful movies. I just love his delivery. He's one of the most interesting actors I've ever seen.
SPEAKER 21 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 23 :
All right, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 21 :
She's All That with Freddie Prinze Jr.
SPEAKER 23 :
Great movie. Very well done.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes, pretty good.
SPEAKER 20 :
Kent, how about, I can't, it's right in front of me, I've got to say it, American Pie.
SPEAKER 23 :
yes it's evil and it's a teen movie and that makes sense and there's like 15 of them oh yeah yeah stifler's mom okay really quick here you guys you guys remember peewee herman oh yeah well he played a side character a vampire in buffy the vampire slayer the movie and here he is dying when she puts him through the heart with a stake
SPEAKER 25 :
Now he's on the floor kicking at something.
SPEAKER 27 :
Peewee Herman.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's one of the most dragged out death scenes ever. Pretty funny. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, we've mentioned this several times over the past few years, but this is a teen movie because it's about high school football. Not the one you're thinking I'm going to say, Andy, or the other one even, Varsity Blues.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah. Several listeners have mentioned that one.
SPEAKER 23 :
That is the one I thought you were going to say.
SPEAKER 20 :
So good job.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yes, very good. Okay, go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 20 :
Hang on, I've got to add this because it was not on my list. So lots of you added it in, so appreciate that very much. The Outsiders.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, okay. Well done. Okay, I got more clips. I'm not going to do them. We got to go more rapid fire here. Juno. Oh, yeah. A brilliant little movie with Ellen Page. That was her name. Ellen Page. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 21 :
Andy, I can't believe you wouldn't use his real name. Just saying. Not going to do it. It's a girl. The Princess Diaries.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, yeah. My wife loves that movie. Twilight. Fun one. Twilight. My wife loves that movie. Three O'Clock High, a surprisingly funny little movie about a guy who has to get in a fight at three o'clock, and he spends the whole day at school just trying to avoid it and get out of it. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 21 :
A sad one here. Andy, A Walk to Remember. Oh, yes. Very sad.
SPEAKER 20 :
Go ahead, John. How about The Edge of Seventeen?
SPEAKER 23 :
Good, good. Here's another sad one. Really good. Dead Poets Society.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, yeah. It's wonderful. Richard, go.
SPEAKER 21 :
A music movie. It's got some teenage because it's a high school. Drumline. I guess it's college. That counts.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's close enough. That counts. Yeah. Napoleon Dynamite.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
It's classic. Oh, my word.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, now here is a movie that's actually about, I don't know, all told, ten movies. But they're all about the teen character Spider-Man. Pick one.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, good one. Yeah, that counts.
SPEAKER 23 :
Richard, you're up. Mean Girls. Oh, yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 23 :
One of the classics. Scream. There you go, Regina George. Scream. That was good. Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead. Richard, go.
SPEAKER 21 :
My other football one, Napoleon Dynamite.
SPEAKER 20 :
Already did it.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, no, sorry, not Napoleon Dynamite. My other football one was Friday Night Lights.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yep, that's on my list. Freaky Friday.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, that's on my list. Did we do, going way back, Rebel Without a Cause?
SPEAKER 20 :
We did not on my list, but go ahead. Good one.
SPEAKER 23 :
Richard, go.
SPEAKER 21 :
The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Andy.
SPEAKER 20 :
Go ahead, John. 21 Jump Street.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
They weren't really teens. They weren't teens, but it had a lot of teens.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, here's a really good movie. I mean it. War Games.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah. Great. John Cusack again.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah. Well, no, actually.
SPEAKER 20 :
No, no, no, no, no. That was... What can I think of his name?
SPEAKER 23 :
From Ferris Bueller.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. Broderick.
SPEAKER 23 :
Broderick. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
Shall we play our game?
SPEAKER 21 :
Hunger Games.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes. I guess that one counts. Oh, totally. Totally. Didn't have that on my list. She's the Man. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER 23 :
It is pretty funny. That's Amanda Byrne. Bynes, I mean. The later Harry Potter movies.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 21 :
Richard, you're up. This is a pretty funny one. I Love You, Beth Cooper.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, okay. I did not see it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, this will be our last one. I'll let you go, Richard. Caddyshack.
SPEAKER 23 :
You're right. That does have teens in it.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's a teen movie for the most part.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
All right, finishing up favorite teen movies. I got a few that came in via the text line and Charlie, so I'll rattle these off, Andy. Carrie, Hairspray, Fame, West Side Story, Taps, and Cowboys.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, Taps, good one, by the way. Summer School, Teen Wolf, Superbad, The Craft, Election. Barbie, The Sandlot, Dumplin'. The Lost Boys, What a Girl Wants, Twilight, we already said, Dirty Dancing.
SPEAKER 20 :
The Fault in Our Stars, Pitch Perfect, and About Time.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, Sky High, Tangled is a teen movie, and Aladdin is a teen movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
Did you say School of Rock? No. Okay. School of Rock and Gidget. Okay.
SPEAKER 23 :
The Lost Boys.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's a good one, Andy.
SPEAKER 23 :
I Know What You Did Last Summer.
SPEAKER 20 :
Another good one.
SPEAKER 23 :
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World.
SPEAKER 20 :
American Teen, The Girl Next Door, and Seventeen Again.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay. Now, you already said that one. Did we say Sixteen Candles?
SPEAKER 20 :
We did.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay. Here's one that nobody knows about. Very good. Thoroughbreds. Scary little movie. Can't Buy Me Love. Lady Bird.
SPEAKER 20 :
Excellent movie. Good one. Did we say Dirty Dancing?
SPEAKER 23 :
I did.
SPEAKER 20 :
You said dinner. Okay. Cruel intentions to all the boys I've loved before. And I don't think anybody said pretty in pink.
SPEAKER 23 :
You know what? That was the last one on my list and I'm done.
SPEAKER 20 :
Really quick, I've got Blockers, which was a hilarious movie, by the way. It's about the parents, but there's teens in it as well. Nightmare on Elm Street. I'm surprised you didn't say that one, given it's the horror movie.
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, that's true. That's a good point. That's a teen movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
Eighth Grade. You said Lady Bird, right? Booksmart's another one. Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Booksmart. Thirteen War Games. Valley Girl was another weird teen movie.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
I didn't care for it much.
SPEAKER 23 :
That's going back.
SPEAKER 20 :
The to-do list, some kind of wonderful, and that's going to do it for today, guys. Thank you, Andy. Teen movies are a lot of fun. That was a blast. All right. We'll be back in the morning. Don't forget, 9 o'clock for Fix It Radio, followed up by Drive Radio. Have a great night. Stay safe, by the way, with the weather we're having, and we'll see you tomorrow. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Your happy conservative warrior isn't all that happy today. In fact, I'm perhaps most sad over the fact that we had planned to do a Good News Friday broadcast. I think my timing is a little suspect. Probably not a good day to do a Good News Friday broadcast. Holy cow. What did we experience? What are we experiencing in this battle of the titans? King Kong versus Godzilla. Elon Musk turns on President Trump. And then we're expected to take sides. And I don't want to take sides. This is a day where I just put my feet up and say, my number is 1-800-655-MIKE. Because if you've been paying attention, you are bone weary today. after yesterday, the bruising back and forth. And if you don't know, I almost don't want to tell you because you're going to get so depressed and so despondent that I'm going to ruin your Friday and screw up your weekend. Now, the good news is there's apparently rumors and murmurings of a truce. And according to Politico, The White House now is reaching out to Elon to have a meeting between these two giants. Look, I got to turn it over to you. 800-655-MIKE. Like I said, this is one of those days where, I mean, we've got all the clips. We've got all the good stuff. We got all the goods for you here on the Mike Gallagher Show. I turn it over to you on this caller-driven show, 800-655-6453. You know me. I'd rather talk to you than any talking head available, any author, any politician. They're all great, but I'd rather talk to Americans. And I got to find out what you're feeling, what you're experiencing, what your reaction is. Because this is pretty bad. The left is eating this up. They're loving every minute of it. They're delighted. Now they're embracing Elon because Elon has said horrific things about President Trump. President Trump has been fairly restrained in his response. Not a typical response. Not the typical Trumpian DEFCON 1 reaction, which is good, I guess. Look, I don't know. I'm going to tell you right off the bat, we shouldn't take sides. We really shouldn't. And let me tell you why. Both of them have enormous value to the United States of America. Both of them bring tremendous, tremendous value to MAGA, to making this country better, to making America great again. Obviously, these are two alpha males. These are two type A personalities. I talk to a cynical person. Trump hater last night, who of course just loves this, and she said, oh, I said this was always going to happen. I knew it. Trump does this to everyone. I thought, I don't know what Trump did. Trump was on kind of defense, a place that he's kind of used to, because all they do is come for him. And I couldn't help thinking, here we go again, this man who's been arrested multiple times, who's been shot, who's been impeached, who's been crucified on an hourly basis, now has the guy that he treated like a son turn on him. And Elon Musk... It's absolutely true. Has brought tremendous value to the Trump presidency. Has been tremendously effective with Doge, albeit not as effective as everybody had hoped. But so be it. He got a lot done already, and Doge continues. He's the richest guy in the world. He's Tony Stark of, what is it, Iron Man? He's Iron Man. An Iron Man got ticked at the king. So where do we go from here? Well, you know what I do on the Mike Gallagher Show? I say 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Call or text, one number does it all. We're in the Relief Factor studios for what is a wild, wild ride. 11 past the hour, your voice, your call, your perspective coming up. PhD weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me, I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Donald Trump is president, and I think at the end of the day, it's his administration that always has been. So, listen, a lot of people have views on this bill, and I'm sure there'll be a lot more criticism and other concerns, etc., etc. And the Senate obviously has some work to do in the next few weeks. But, you know, it's the president's administration, and I think he'll drive the train here.
SPEAKER 04 :
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Senator Josh Hawley talking about this epic battle of the Titans. I keep thinking of Godzilla and King Kong. There are probably many others. A lot of good feedback on the prayer I shared from Frank Pavone, praying that God blesses these two men and pours out your spirit, Lord, upon Trump and Elon. They've been changing the world for the better. The devil hates that. And look, I'm going to get spiritual on you here for a moment. This is devil stuff. This is evil. I'm not saying either one of them are evil, obviously, but the devil, this is mischief, and this is tumultuous kind of drama that the devil craves, you know? And the Democrats are, by the way... I'm having a field day with this. They don't know what to do. They really don't know what to do. I mean, we don't either, admittedly. But they don't know whether to embrace Elon. What happens now? Do they repair all the damage that they committed on Tesla vehicles? Are they going to go back to buying Teslas? What are they going to do now? Where do they turn now? AOC going to buy her Tesla back? This is hysterical on that level. But let's face it. It's bad for the country. It's bad for MAGA. It's bad, in a way, for the bill. And that's what kind of matters. I mean, what does the future hold for the big, beautiful bill? I don't know what the... I haven't even checked in yet with the naysayers of the bill. the Thomas Massys, and the Ron Johnsons. We haven't checked in with what are they saying about this battle royale. Incidentally, a lot of people were wondering why J.D. Vance was kind of silent. He's taken to X to vociferously defend President Trump. So that's good. Stocks are up. Market seems to be responding favorably, except for Tesla stock, which is in the toilet. So Elon's not exactly doing himself any favors here. So, look, I am prayerful. I am. I feel prayerful. I want this to heal. I want this to be resolved. And I'm going to talk a little bit about praying today. 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Again, we just reported that there is apparently no plan for Trump and Elon to speak. I was so excited today and late last night when I went to bed. There were murmurings that they were – and Elon himself indicated signs of a truce. Somebody on X said, look, we're stronger together than we are apart. They need to mend this thing. Well, Elon retweeted that and said, that's true, or words to that effect. So that's a good thing. It's like he's open to a reconciliation. The problem is President Trump may not be. And if we know Trump, He's probably not in a hurry to mend fences. Franks in San Antonio. Again, our number is 800-655-MIKE. We hope you're watching on Salem News Channel, snc.tv. Streaming on X today. Follow us at Gallagher Show. Be sure you check out the podcast for the Week in Review podcast. What a week it has been. We've got so much to cover here. But I always want to turn to you first. Look, I think about it. I think about 9-11. I think about COVID and the pandemic. Every day, I was blessed by you. So let's get a bunch of calls here. We're going to go kind of fast because I want to get a lot of voices. 800-655-6453. Here's Frank in San Antonio. Frank, welcome to the show. Happy Friday.
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Thanks, Mike. Thanks for having me. You bet. I think you'll like my theory. Okay. I hope it'll give you some hope. Sure. Because what I see is Trump is setting up a big, beautiful pivot. Once the bill passes the Senate, in whatever form, it really doesn't matter as long as he gets the key things he's after, he's going to start the case for spending cuts. This is all about 2026. And I see the media buzz about he and Elon getting back together, and they're going to have this big, beautiful announcement that they're in agreement that what they really need is 60 budget hawks in the Senate, and they need a larger majority in the House. And that's going to launch, you know, the selection of candidates and everything. But wait a minute. Go back.
SPEAKER 11 :
But you're not addressing this epic battle between these two men. You think this is an intentional setup for a pivot to spending cuts?
SPEAKER 03 :
I do. I do. I think he's getting a couple of his key promises accomplished in this bill. And he knows that it'll be 100 times harder if he tries to put the spending cuts in this bill.
SPEAKER 11 :
So he's going to do that as a next step. Couldn't we have gotten that done without Elon claiming that Trump is on the Epstein pedophile list?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's just part of the drama. The gamesmanship? I mean, let's remember he comes out of WWE wrestling. He knows how to set up the next press conference.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, look, that's how I felt yesterday, Frank. Don't get me wrong. I don't mean to say you're all wet, because that's what I thought all along. I thought, this has got to be a giant setup. But Trump has, I mean, Elon in particular has gone very personal. Trump got personal. Trump threatened to pull the government contracts for SpaceX. That's not a good idea for Elon as far as he's concerned. Then Elon said, okay, fine, then we're going to cancel the Dragon contracts or whatever the heck it is. The whole thing is a mess, a mess. And I would love to believe you, Frank. I was more confident in that view yesterday than I am today. Randy's in Colorado Springs. Randy, welcome aboard.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, good morning. Hi. My only comment is that Elon has – messed himself up with the left, and now he's making the right angry. He better watch himself. He's going to be in bad shape shortly.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. Thank you, Randy. Arlene in Kalamazoo. Hey, Arlene, thanks for your patience. How are you today? I'm doing okay. I'm just frustrated and angry. How about you? And sad.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, I have. No hope anymore of anything turning out good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Don't give up hope. No, no, no, no, no. Don't give up, Arlene.
SPEAKER 12 :
No matter what Trump does, somebody rips it apart.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know.
SPEAKER 12 :
And now his best bud is ripping him apart.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know. But you can't give up. You can't give up. You can't. I mean, we're never going to give up. Remember the Rush Limbaugh line I played last week? Never give up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I used to listen to him quite a bit, too.
SPEAKER 11 :
You bet. Look at what Trump did. Fight, fight, fight. The guy took a bullet for us, and he stood up and said, keep fighting. Don't give up, Arlene. Well, we'll see what happens. All right. I hear you. I appreciate the negative. I mean, look, I had a bad day, too, yesterday. But I don't want to give up. I don't want to lose faith. I don't want to – I mean, look at – how about Steve Bannon? And again, the guy's a beast. And I mean that with a lot of admiration. And here's – we've got the clip of Bannon saying that he ought to deport Elon. Well, that would be quite a look, huh? Yeah. But look, I mean, this is what's weird about the whole thing. It wasn't all that long ago that Elon Musk was praising President Trump. Remember when Trump and Elon sat down with Sean Hannity on Fox News? This was just a couple of months ago.
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Become one of your best friends. He's working for free for you. Well, I love the president. I just want to be clear about that. I don't care about that. I know. I love the president. I think I think President Trump is a good man. And he's, you know, that's the way he said that, you know, something nice about it really is, you know, because, I mean, the president has been so unfairly attacked in the media. It's really outrageous. And I spent at this point, spent a lot of time with the president. And not once have I seen him do something that was mean or cruel.
SPEAKER 11 :
How about that? What was the date on that, Tracy? Do we know? It was a couple months ago. So you talk about a 180-degree pivot. Holy moly. I'd like to believe it's a strategy. I'm still not giving up on that. In fact, I suspect if we did a poll right now, and maybe we can put a poll together. We're a little short-staffed today because our brain trust is with his family. Eric lost his mother-in-law this week. And so we're, of course, praying for God's comfort and healing for Eric Hansen and Gina and the girls and the family. But, of course, we've got the best team in the biz covering. We've got Dan flying the plane and Christian and Tracy. But, you know, if we did a poll right now, I'll bet you anything the majority of people believe this is still a strategy. I'll bet the majority of people would answer, that's my gut that most people would feel that way. I'm not 100% there anymore. I have to admit I'm about 75% there. There's no way that a smart man like Elon Musk goes from expressing his support and love and admiration for this man, Donald J. Trump, and then would turn on him the way he did yesterday. It's hard to even get your brain around it. So I still have a hunch that most people believe this is all an episode of the WWE. But it's not pleasant. Look at poor Arlene in Kalamazoo, ready to give up. And I can relate. But don't give up. Look, if you're suffering from pain, don't give up. I had lunch yesterday with the founder of Relief Factor. Brilliant man. We've got some big, exciting things coming your way in 2025. Relief Factor doesn't just mask pain. It helps reduce or eliminate it. And as I shared with Dr. Mixon, look, I was suffering for a while. Not suffering. That's melodramatic. I had lower back pain that was about a three or four on the pain scale. And I started taking Relief Factor and it was completely eradicated. You see, Relief Factor is the 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally, developed by a team of doctors. Relief Factor uses a unique formula of four natural ingredients. Now, they've done something really smart. They put together the three-week quick start. It was only $19.95, less than a dollar a day. Give it a try. Let's see if we can get you out of pain. Go to relieffactor.com, relieffactor.com. Try the three-week quick start. Take it out for a test drive. Look, if it works, don't. Great. If it doesn't, you're out $19.95. But if it works, wow, your life could be changed for good. Call 800-4-RELIEF. 800-4-RELIEF. 800, the number 4 relief. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor. I think we'll put that poll together. We'll slap this together even without Eric. We'll figure it out. We're pretty smart. Stay tuned for that and more on this epic breaking news episode of The Mike Gallagher Show on a Friday. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com, use the promo code MikeG, MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034. Sing along with me.
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You know the great thing about this show? We get to weather a lot of storms together. We've been through a lot. I've been thinking about people who've listened and followed this show for years. We've been through good times and bad and sickness and in health. We got through the pandemic together. And tragically, we got through 9-11 together as we were broadcasting from the 32nd floor of the Empire State Building that horrible morning and had to evacuate. And plenty of people are still with us today. In fact, a lot of people began taking in the Mike Gallagher show that day. And you've been with us ever since. I'm not going to pretend this is not a bad time for our movement. And our movement being a bunch of patriots who love this country, who cherish America. the ability to get it back on track and make America great again. This feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump is off the charts bizarre. It is perplexing. It is, on some levels, infuriating, because I don't know if this messes up the chance to get the big beautiful bill passed. I don't know. That's going to come down to the Republicans who agree with Elon that there's too much spending. And that is, of course, Elon's apparent complaint. Too much spending increases the deficit and you need to kill the bill and blow it all up because it just doesn't work. Now, I'm trusting the cooler heads can prevail. I'm praying the cooler heads will, there will be some kind of place where we can come back to some sanity. Because right now, let's face it, this is insane. This is beyond insane. This is DEFCON 1. You've heard it all by now, probably. You've been following it on social media, here on Salem News Channel. Salem Radio Network, I mean all of our stations around the country, this is all we're talking about. I'm a fairly intuitive guy. I cannot lose my grip on my belief that this is some kind of strategy. You go from... Claiming that you love President Trump as much as any man can love another man, which is what Elon just posted a couple of months ago, to he's on the Epstein list? You go from saying this is the greatest president of my lifetime and appearing with him on stage and jumping up and down like a schoolboy to he wouldn't have gotten elected without me and he ought to be impeached? No, no. It's too over the top. There's no way. In fact, we've got a poll up right now at X. And I hope you will vote on the poll. Maybe I'm wrong. Because I expect that a surprising majority of people agree with me that this is just a strategy. That these two men have concocted a strategy of WWE proportion. This is What do they call the big annual event at the World Wrestling Entertainment World? Yeah, WrestleMania. This is WrestleMania 2025. And look, you take part in the poll, and we'll start reading the results. If you go to X and follow me at Gallagher Show, and all I ask, the little favor I ask from you, is just follow me at Gallagher Show. You'll find the Mike Gallagher show where we stream the show, where we post a lot. I love X. And look, I'm not going to take a side on this. It's a mistake to take sides. We ought to really appreciate what Elon Musk did. And we certainly are grateful for the guy sitting in the Oval Office. So you go ahead and take sides if you want. Not me. Not me. I'll give you the results of the poll in just a moment, and we'll keep it up all day long and all into the weekend. Again, just follow me at GallagherShow on X and take part in the poll. We have it pinned to the top. Is this a strategy concocted by Elon and President Trump to try to move the needle, to get the spending down, to advance the big, beautiful bill and make it a lot better in the Senate? Is this a strategy, or is this... just a devastating divorce between the two most powerful men on the planet. Now, whenever we have a massive event like this, I wouldn't miss today's show if I was on my deathbed. I'd have Tracy plug in a microphone and a camera, and my last gasps, I'd be with you today. So I'm glad I'm here today with you because I always open up the phone lines, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I want to take your texts, your calls. I want to get a whole bunch of people on here. I want to get a lot of voices. And I want to get your input because this is either just a farce and a skit and a chapter right out of the WWE or this is pretty bad. Pretty bad. And I'm not going to sugarcoat it. It's very unfortunate. And I hope and pray it doesn't get in the way of getting the bill passed. This bill has to get passed. Trump's tax cuts have to be permanent. Look, I love Steve Bannon. He doesn't like Elon Musk at all. And he doesn't love the bill. But Steve Bannon knows the bill has to get passed. I want to share his thoughts with you in just a moment as well. But in the meantime, 800-655-6453. Your voice, your call, your perspective. Coming up on this big Breaking News Friday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show.
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We want to pass the bill because if we don't pass it, we're going to have an automatic $4.3 trillion tax increase on the American people, which will send our economy to the center of the earth.
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SPEAKER 11 :
I really believe in common sense, and the common sense perspective on the big, beautiful bill is it's got to pass. There's a lot of flamethrowers who don't want the bill to pass, and of course that's because they want Trump to fail. They really want the Trump agenda to go up in flames. I get that there's too much wasteful spending. I hate to break it to you, but as Trump was campaigning on tax... decreases, lower taxes, a thriving economy, a secure border, and all the other things that we've listed, hate to break it to you, nobody was chanting, too much deficit spending, too much deficit spending. And to hear people say that, I just want to, I mean, look, Steve Bannon is a guy that I follow pretty closely. The war room. Former, you know, Trump close advisor, and now he's parlayed his time in politics into a very popular podcast and presence all over the place. Steve's not a fan of the big, beautiful bill, but he knows it has to get passed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so we've never been enthusiastic about the big, beautiful bill. Number one, a big, beautiful bill is going to get done. It has to get done. Because you must extend the tax cuts for the working class and the middle class. All engines stop. There are also certain things on R&D, as you sent me, these things that weren't covered in 17, we've got to take care of. There's a number of things of depreciation, things that have to be done for business, a bunch of things for small business, etc., That has to be done as a supply-side tax cut, and we do believe in the supply-side tax cuts. However, as we've said from the beginning, the bill would be made better in the no need to kill it in the House, and the president didn't want to kill it in the House. It's going to be made better in the Senate.
SPEAKER 11 :
There you go. And that's what they're doing. They're making the sausage. They're getting through this. It is a process. And, of course, Donald Trump is up against the beast called Congress. I saw somebody posted on social media, Trump would love to have a bill with everything that Elon wants in it. If this was like either of their ideas. successful businesses like the Trump Organization or SpaceX or Tesla, they could just say the word and it would happen and the business would prosper. Try getting it passed by a hostile, corrupt Congress full of commie Democrats and self-serving Republican egomaniacs who hold a slim majority. That's what Trump is up against. And once again, Trump faces the nearly impossible. And we've been here over and over and over with this guy, where he faces the impossible. He's dodging bullets on a stage. He's staying out of prison. He's preventing them from bankrupting him. He has been up against this over, I've never seen a guy, one man, be put through more than this guy has been put through. And if this meltdown from Elon is real, if it's genuine, then Americans are going to love Trump even more. Because they're going to recognize that sadly he took a guy under his wing, who went bonkers, just threw a massive tantrum, and decided to try to burn it all down. So now Trump has to fight this battle. if this isn't contrived. I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. I love all the feedback I'm getting. The text line is blowing up today, the MyPillow text line, 800-655-MIKE. Text me your comments. Please never text and drive. Standard text message and your rates may apply. And, of course, it's brought to you by MyPillow and Mike Lindell. This is a guy who's also been targeted and attacked, and they've tried every way they can to destroy him. And you keep doing a very funny thing. You keep supporting MyPillow, which I love. And Mike has extended this incredible offer on the Giza Dream Sheets. I've been telling you about the Giza Dream Sheets for years. They're smooth. They're luxurious. They're silky. They feel like any sheets you'd find on any five-star luxury hotel bed, right? Well, Mike is now offering the best price ever on these sheets, any size. Any size, Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any color, $49.98. $49.98 for the entire set. Any size, any color. You can buy as many sets as you want. You've got to go to the Mike Gallagher Specials Square. Because some people don't go to that box. And then without that, you won't. That's the first step you've got to take. So go to MyPillow.com and then find the Mike Gallagher Specials. You'll see a box. Picture of Mike Lindell, Mike Gallagher. Click on that box. And then when you place your order for the sheets... or the pillows, or the slippers, or the doggy beds, or the loungewear, when you enter promo code MikeG, you'll get the Giza Dream Sheets, $49.98. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Let's take a look at the poll we have posted up at X, and I hope you'll participate. Hey, let's flood that poll to see where we are. Right now, 58% think that the Elon Trump feud is just a strategy. concocted by these two titans.
SPEAKER 1 :
58%.
SPEAKER 11 :
We've got a few hundred votes. Let's keep it going. I'd love to get thousands of votes in there. If you go to Mike, if you go to X, follow me at GallagherShow. And I don't even think you have to follow me to take part in the poll, but be nice if you would. But just go to X, formerly Twitter, at GallagherShow.com. and take part in the poll. Is the Elon Trump feud a strategy? Is this kind of a ruse to try to help get the bill passed, to make things better for Elon, to improve his business? Yes or no? Right now, 58% have voted yes, 42%. Vote no. Let's see what the results will be. We'll keep going back to it for you. Roberto, Wildwood, Florida. Hi, Roberto. How are you?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm doing good. I'm one of the folks that believe that this is a real spat. And I think that Elon is very angry because, first of all, his company was attacked. He was threatened. And I saw it a while ago, the GOP took a vote on codifying his, you know, codifying the things that he found, and 23 senators, GOP senators, basically said no. Okay, so why is he taking it out on Trump? No, no, I think he's taking it out on the wrong guy. Please, I'm a Trump supporter.
SPEAKER 11 :
I understand that, but look, I can appreciate him being frustrated that not enough senators were on board. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Excuse me, why would he take it out on Donald Trump?
SPEAKER 13 :
I have no idea, but he's taking it out on the wrong guy. He should be taking it out on the GOP.
SPEAKER 11 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because they should be rescinded. They should be rescinded.
SPEAKER 11 :
I got it. I got it. I got it. OK, let's get I want to get a bunch of voices on here, Roberto. Let's see what others say. So Roberto thinks he's mad. He's just taken out on the wrong guy. Greg's in Minneapolis. Hey, Greg.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I'd like to point out a fact that Mr. President Trump has an agenda and a job to do. He has to run the country. His staff has to run the country. They've been doing a damn good job. We're safer. We're stronger. We're going to be smarter. We're going to be growing. Imagine pushing a huge boulder up a hill. We're almost at the top. And this bill, this bill that they have to pass has to get us. to the top of that mountaintop, and it has to roll downhill so fiercely that this country will grow beyond growth.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct. You're preaching to the choir, so what's up with what Elon Musk is doing?
SPEAKER 14 :
Elon looked at that bill, and he saw all that crap in there, and this is not... People don't understand that in Congress and in the Senate... which they'll sort this out in the Senate, that there is just pure corruption in there. And these people cut out his, he did all this hard work with Doge. He did, him and his staff, these guys are great, great professionals. They did a wonderful job. And they just, they just totally like just threw it off.
SPEAKER 11 :
So I'll ask you what I asked Roberto. Why is he taking that out on Donald Trump?
SPEAKER 14 :
He's a super alpha male. He's a leader. He's not a politician. He doesn't operate the way Trump is.
SPEAKER 11 :
I understand, but everybody's dancing around this. What's he mad at Trump about?
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what? I think it's just his ego. His ego?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's not an answer. I mean, again, nobody, you know why nobody could answer this? Because there is no normal answer. This isn't a fight that Trump picked. Trump didn't go after Elon Musk. Trump just gave him the key to the White House the other day. This is so frustrating. This is crazy. I mean, again, you're all giving me reasonable arguments about why he should be mad at, you know, the rhinos in the Senate and the squishes in Congress. I get all that. What's he mad at Trump about? What did Trump do? Trump's trying to get this done. And, you know, he's got, as you've all said, this mountain to climb. And look, I am so reluctant to take sides on this. Because I do appreciate what Elon Musk brought to the table. I'm grateful for him. Is it possible this guy is a complete nutcase? I mean, you understand, we're talking about the behavior... If it's not contrived or if there's not a concerted, and how can a nutcase be one of the most successful businessmen on the planet? How could a guy get rockets to land backwards and send people to Mars and the moon and rescue astronauts and develop a car that drives itself and have the brilliance that this guy possesses? And I don't want to believe that he's completely off his rocker. I don't want to believe that. I just don't. I hope I don't have to get there someday where we just say, wait, wait a minute. Is this a strategy? Is this all smoke and mirrors? Is there something else going on? Let me just focus on that. And Tracy, let's look for that answer. Let's look for an answer to that question. Why is Elon mad at President Trump? Simple question. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. That's what I want to focus on right now. Why is Elon purportedly this enraged? And this isn't just angry. This is off the charts, go for the jugular, enraged at Donald Trump. 800-655-6453.
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This is, I think, so indicative of where we are as a society as well. It feels like the season finale of MAGA. I don't know if they're going to make up or not. That may change, but it feels like we were watching this, you know, it's like you're watching a reality show and you have the season finale of it and you're taking it all in and, oh my gosh, mom and dad are fighting. I don't know if you follow me on Instagram or not, but I found this most amazing thing Amazing AI image ever. And it's of like a 70s Trump and he's in this just one of the most horrific jackets I've ever seen in my life. And Elon Musk. And it's like mom and dad. It feels like mom and dad are fighting. And I don't know who's going to get custody of us. Who gets custody of the nation? I don't know. Who gets custody? Those are the most bitching glasses I've ever seen.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
I need those sunglasses. Oh my gosh. I would actually knock him down and rob him for those sweet Jim Jones sunglasses. This is my favorite. I put it to the tune of Al Green's Let's Stay Together. And all of you out there were so disturbed by this. But can I just appreciate that jacket is... So loud. But the hair is so sweet. And, I mean, it works. I would believe that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I can smell the cigarette smoke.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dude, can't you? And the leather seats, the Corinthian leather seats, the cigarette smoke, right?
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Is that Olin Mills?
SPEAKER 04 :
It feels like it's an Olin Mills photo, right? I need to see, like, you know, that's the nation's parents right now. I don't know. I don't know who gets custody of us. I just hope that I get willed those sunglasses, those sweet shades. I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
That jacket's mine.
SPEAKER 04 :
Golly, you can have that jacket. That jacket is like Ronald McDonald's 70s French fries, crusted ketchup. That's what that jacket is. But the glass, I mean, it's just loud and in charge. I don't know who gets custody of the nation. I don't know what happens. It was so awkward. It was so awkward looking at all of this. I don't know if we have all of these, these, the tweets that they have. Is it tweets or is it, I don't even know what the hell it is. Tweets, posts, whatever. I don't know. I want to kick with Audio Soundbite 1 because this is when... This is when I knew they weren't playing because we'll get into that. The 11DD chess, whatever. This is when I knew that they weren't playing. Audio Soundbite 1.
SPEAKER 01 :
He's upset. Remember, he was here for a long time. You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the Oval Desk. And even with the black eye, I said, you want a little makeup? We'll get you a little makeup. But he said, no, I don't think so, which is interesting and very nice. He wants to be who he is. So you could make that statement, too, I guess. Look, Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know if it will anymore. I was surprised because you were here.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you have two titans that are clashing and everybody else can get hurt in the process. And that's what we don't want to happen. And they, yes, you know, I said this when I was on Ingram last night. Yes. These are two people with outsized egos. And you have to have a large ego to be where you are at the level where they are because you can't survive if you don't. I mean, that's kind of like this commonality with all of these people. I mean, you kind of have to have an outsized ego to survive, right? So we had the... The tweets started. I don't even remember. There were so many. At one point, I lost track. We were going to go through all of them and throw them up. But they kept doing it. And Musk was like, yeah. And then he said that he was going to decommission Dragon X. I don't even remember. Juan, there's so many of them now. They would not stop. We were going to go through it. And you guys, there's so many. go through, just go through. He said, whatever, keep the EV solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil and gas subsidies. And remember, Elon Musk is actually on record as saying that he wants all of that to go away. I mean, he literally sat there and he'd said over and over again, yes, I, we, we need to get rid of this. We need to get rid of all of these things. Um, and then the Epstein tweet happened and I don't even know it, it, it went into the Epstein tweet, uh, I don't think that he is really saying that Trump's a pedophile. I can't even believe I'm having this conversation right now. So nuts. Did we accidentally get drunk or high? Like what happened?
SPEAKER 07 :
When mom and dad fight.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's so confusing because he drops this and he's like, haven't I stayed DJT? I don't really, because he's had little X hanging out with POTUS, right? He's had little X on Marine One with POTUS. I mean, I don't think he believes that. I think he's just trying to make it all very uncomfortable. This is, we have a society where everybody flexes online. This is part of it. So he's saying, he said that, you know, he's in the Epstein files, et cetera. Then from this tweet, before we go to the next, from this tweet, there was like an Epstein off, like who can get more photos with Epstein? And I'm pretty sure that halfway through most of them were AI generated. Like I really, I saw a picture of Elon Musk, Donald Trump and Epstein apparently chugging from a champagne bottle. And I'm like, pretty sure that's AI. Cause I don't think that Elon Musk was that old in the eighties. Anyway, uh, It just went crazy. And then POTUS went back at him. Musk went back at POTUS saying that he was going to then decommission Dragon SpaceX. And then Musk said Trump would have lost the election without me. I do believe that this is true. I believe that's true. I think that Trump needed Musk to win the election. I think that technology needs Republicans to progress. So it's kind of like, you know, tit for tat. I think that both of them need each other and the nation needs both of them. Look, ta-da! Look, can we all get along? I love fighting, but this makes me nervous. It makes me incredibly nervous. Is it 11DD chess? I don't think it is. I think that this is just the sign of the times. I think this is what happens when you have two titans who come together in this fashion and they duke it out. And it all is played out very publicly for a society that loves the public fight. It's like our new gladiators. This is what we have progressed to. It's our partners that help bring you the program. It's our very good friends over at Gold Co., Gold Co. Precious Metals. Gold and silver have stood the test of time. Hard assets offer real security. It's not like paper. You know, we love the gold standard. And you can get educated with Gold Co. before you invest. With Gold Co., they're offering a free 2025 gold and silver kit. You can qualify also and get unlimited bonus silver, real silver. instantly matched to your account, tax and penalty free, which are my favorite things. Unlock that exclusive bonus silver and walk through the whole nine yards. They break it all down, everything that you need to know about precious metals and investing and how it works with your financial strategy. And you understand gold and silver. For generations, smart investors have turned to precious metals as a hedge during periods of economic instability. And even now, in times like these, that wisdom still holds true. Visit danalikesgold.com and join the thousands of people like me who've called Goldco the number one rated gold company. And right now you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit. On top of that, you can also qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. That's danalikesgold.com.
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SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 04 :
I feel like this is scary. This is like a horror film. Amazon is apparently developing software for humanoid robots that could perform the role of delivery workers and spring out of the vans. It's a $2 trillion technology company. They're building a humanoid park to test the robots. And they said that they could eventually take the jobs of the delivery workers. And does that mean that, because I got some really great Amazon delivery workers, but then I have some of the other ones that are like, I feel like I threw the box close enough to the driveway that counts. But they said that they're developing the AI that's going to power the robots. I don't know how I feel about this. Yeah. People think that there's a serial killer prowling Texas. 38 bodies have been pulled from a lake in the past three years. Oh, sounds like it's Glock o'clock. The discovery is there's another... It was Lady Bird Lake in Austin. A teenage boy missing since Sunday was discovered by a paddle boarder. And they think that the rainy street ripper... They think that there's renewed fears that this mass murderer is loose in the city. And police insist the killer's not roaming the streets. And they said only one of the cases was a homicide. But still, I'm ready for Glock o'clock. All the same, just saying. A crew was charged with taking nearly... $32,000 worth of candles from a store in Fairfax, Colorado. How do you spend that much on a candle? It's a string of thefts. I guess, what, they're going to resell them?
SPEAKER 07 :
Bunch of candles, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
30. Oh, my gosh, that's insane. Let's see. Also, oh, this is so gross. So a baseball player. This is in New Mexico, Rio Rancho. They're not pursuing charges against a teenager who is accused of urinating in a rival baseball team's water jug. It happened between two high schools, and one of the principals sent a letter to the JV baseball family saying that a Rio Rancho student admitted to it, and the players and coaches drank from it. Oh, my gosh. They said that there are no statutes that make it illegal to interfere with someone's food and battery consists of unlawful touching or application in a rude and insolent manner. They said, so technically, the conduct isn't criminal. Really? Seriously? Seriously? Seriously. I mean, that is absolutely ridiculous. I think he should be kicked off the baseball team. Barred for the rest of his career. Oh, high school career. Yes, absolutely. That's a serious thing. That is a very serious thing. Yeah, it absolutely is. I couldn't even believe that that. I don't know. Apparently, it says this is a stupid study by a horrible British communist newspaper, The Telegraph. And it says that women should drink no more than six glasses of wine a year. A year. Was this written by beer people? I'm like, did a can of beer actually write this? I'm curious. I'm just, you know, I've got some questions. Also, let's see here. Oh, we got this. The fix for parched Western states recycled toilet water. Isn't toilet water kind of recycled already anyway? I don't know, but they're saying that in California, I mean, they live by a sea. They could have a desalination plant, but they decided to waste billions of dollars on a high-speed rail that was never built. So instead, they're going to just recycle toilet water for everybody to drink. Yay! Speaking of that, water flow was restored to residents of one town after a sewer main led to interruption. Oh, that's not the time that you want to have that issue either. This was in Rowlett, Texas. There once again, they had to tell people, don't flush your commodes. They had a sewer main that collapsed. How was the sewer main collapsing? Like, how is this happening? I had to kind of laugh when I saw this headline. Black Panther's son looks white. I don't know if you guys saw this story. So apparently Marvel has a new Black Panther. per a lot of sources, all the comic reporting sources. And they're saying that the new Marvel Comics, Today's the World to Come, the first one, it features a new Black Panther because T'Challa gets, you know, he's old, right? And everybody's like, that dude looks white. And they now they're I don't know. There's a lot of questions about it. And a lot of people are up in arms. I don't know anything about his like backstory. Like, you know, who is the new Black Panther's mom? Why does he look like, you know, I don't get it. I mean, but people are upset when he took off his mask and he had blonde hair and blue eyes and apparently pale skin. So people are like, well, how was the future king of Wakanda white? It's like mean girls like if you're from Africa, how are you white? Gosh, Karen, you can't just ask that. They think that his identity is going to even be hidden on the cover of the third issue of The World to Come. And that's the the upcoming issues of, you know, the Marvel story. So they're saying that the art appears to show T'Challa with shows him with two sons, the original Black Panther with two sons, hinting that the one who beat him in battle was actually mothered by the character. who first appeared in the 1970s, Avenger number 77, the Avengers number 77, and was apparently romantically linked with the original Black Panther when he was studying in the United States. So now there's like a lot of challenges over this legacy character who is celebrated for, you know, being a character in black culture. And there's a lot I was reading a piece. I was actually reading a piece about Wakanda and Afrofuturism came and how that plays into this, you know, Black Panther and Marvel history. Is this going to be a big deal, though? Is it going to? Yeah. Is it going to be White Panther? It's Albino Panther. Albino Panther doesn't really have the ring to it, does it? No, nobody. Nobody. I just seems that's like saying hairless cat. It's just weird. I just I don't know. Like, I don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you get superhero vibes after the mask comes off? It's so funny seeing the reaction, though, because you know how the woke left has been doing weird things by making Snow White and midgets and stuff. Can we say midgets? Oh, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't think you can. Thanks. Now we're canceled. Now we're canceled. Bye, guys. Bye. And that's the show. Gosh, you can't do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
But they're changing everything that we once knew traditionally.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, I'm ready for a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Mulan. Right? I mean, that's going to happen next. That's going to be the next thing that happens. I just, as long as things are faithful to the story. So Juan's showing you simulcast. That's the new, that's like the guy, that's the new white panther.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is this canon though? Is this like something?
SPEAKER 04 :
You're asking, I don't know. I don't, I mean, it's.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because if it is, that would be astounding.
SPEAKER 04 :
His mom is canon. His mom comes back from the, his mom's from the 70s apparently. Right. So there's a lot of people that are a little mad about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
So this is true to the storyline then?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, for the most part, it seems. There's going to be a lot of... Meltdown? Yeah, it's not going to... If he's on the throne of Wakanda, I don't think people are going to react... I mean, if it's canon, that's one thing. And if it's integral to the storyline, I get it. But at the same time, I don't like it either way, doing something just because you're trying to seem inclusive. Like if Black Panther is supposed to be like a Black Panther, then don't make him White Panther. Like, you know, let's not. The same way you would not change Mulan. That's like part of their story. Or like Harry Potter, you know, with Snape. Because him being a pale, sickly-looking white dude, that actually plays into... kind of the the playoff that jk rowling was making about bigotry and all of that stuff so i i don't know i i i've got some questions of course this is disney disney ruins everything that they touch i mean you remember this is audio somebody 20 their corporate president carrie burke remember when they did this like video call and she was talking about having all the alphabet characters in their stories like even when it was completely unnecessary listen
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm here as a mother of two queer children, actually. One transgender child. She's so proud of that. And one pansexual child. She talks about it like she has Birkins. And that was the thing that really got me because I have heard so much from so many of my colleagues over the course of the last couple weeks in open forums and through emails and phone conversations and I feel a responsibility to speak, not just for myself, but for them. To all of us. We had an open forum last week at 20th where, again, the home of really incredible, groundbreaking LGBTQIA stories over the years where
SPEAKER 04 :
She talks about her, by the way, she talks about her kids. This is the corporate president, Carrie Burke, the way she's like, well, one of them's pansexual. It's like she's going, I have two Birkins and one is a Himalayan Birkin, which if you don't know that that's like the priciest thing that you can get. And only the super richest people that have super yachts in Monaco can afford to get those things. But she talks about it like they're accessories. And mine, I don't... My kid's not just queer. It's a special queer child. Yours is just plain, boring, broke, basic, target, great value queer. Mine's pansexual queer. I mean... How many other words can you put in front of it? But that's the kind of stuff that they focus on. So are you shocked that Disney's deciding to ruin something? I mean, you saw what they did with Star Wars. Now, I don't know. I don't know if it's canon or not. It just seems part of the trend. Let's ruin things. Let's ruin stories. Let's do all of this. Of course, it's not affecting Bob Iger's paycheck. He made $41.1 million in 2024. Now, I don't mind people being rich. I don't mind people being capitalists because if you're a capitalist and you become a multimillionaire, it gives hope for all those other poor bastards out there. It gives everybody some hope, right? Like they can do it too. Although I feel like he's being rewarded unnecessarily because Disney has sucked out loud lately, like for a while lately. not just completely oversaturating everything with Star Wars and ruining it, but also the comic after comic after comic movie oversaturating that and then ruin a lot of these characters. So does he deserve it? I don't know. I mean, he's still living the fairytale life at Disney. I guess at least somebody is now. Somebody is. I mean, to say nothing of the trans influencer. We did a short on that, about that individual getting misgendered. They like whole trans adult culture at Disney. Check this out real fast.
SPEAKER 05 :
Looking cool.
SPEAKER 04 :
The bottom is from Thailand.
SPEAKER 05 :
Coconut bread from Thailand. Yes, sir. Cool.
SPEAKER 02 :
Ma'am.
SPEAKER 05 :
Ma'am.
SPEAKER 01 :
And the other one is from India.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's a papadum with a ginger and chutney.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the folks from Brazil, he's just mad. He's big mad. That does it for us this Friday, folks. Thanks for watching. Like and subscribe and find us on Substack Chapter and Verse as well. Dana Lash here signing off. Back with you Monday.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks for tuning in to today's edition of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast. If you haven't already, make sure to hit that subscribe button on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 03 :
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In this thought-provoking episode, we delve into the recent public feud between two of the world's most prominent figures, Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Explore the ramifications of their disagreement within the broader political landscape, and reflect on the importance of unity and collaboration. Uncover insights into how historical lessons from D-Day can inform our approaches to modern challenges.
SPEAKER 02 :
This is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. Picture this, you're on an important virtual interview answering that make or break question and suddenly your screen freezes. Not the impression you want. Good internet has never been more important. I'm constantly doing podcast interviews, video calls, and important work on my computer, so I have to have a solid connection. That's why you can't take slow for an answer. And with Optimum Fiber, you won't have to. It is the fastest, Most reliable fiber internet in the New York tri-state with 99.9% network reliability so you can stream, work, and game seamlessly. Plus, get a five-year price lock and a $400 prepaid card. Don't take slow for an answer. Call 888-4-OPTIMUM. Visit your local Optimum store or visit Optimum.com today. Terms apply. See Optimum.com for details.
SPEAKER 17 :
Why? Why did you do it? What impelled you to put aside the instinct for self-preservation and risk your lives to take these cliffs? What inspired all the men of the armies that met here? We look at you and somehow we know the answer. It was faith and belief. It was loyalty and love. The men of Normandy had faith that what they were doing was right. faith that they fought for all humanity, faith that a just God would grant them mercy on this beachhead or on the next.
SPEAKER 11 :
81 years today in what was called Operation Overlord. D-Day, the liberation, the Allied liberation of occupied France began. And by May of 1944, you had nearly three million soldiers that had amassed and was preparing to do what was pretty much kind of the unthinkable at that point. It had never, never before had you seen anything like this. It was considered the largest amphibious invasion ever attempted, ever done. Just unbelievable, unbelievable history. And it's the 81st observation anniversary of that. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour, and I know we got other stuff to discuss, but we got to talk about this. And we do this every year, and I think it's incredibly important to note this. We had, what, almost 3 million Allied troops that had assembled in southern England. And we had, I think at that point, 1,200 planes, one of the largest armadas in history, and And even going into this, and I love talking about these stories of lesser known things. I was going to wear my Ghost Army shirt today. It's really hot, though. They had Operation Bodyguard. They had the Ghost Army. It was the deception campaign that led up to this day. There were two different deception campaigns. You had Operation Bodyguard. You had the Ghost Army after our soldiers were in, after they landed in Normandy and they went into France. But then you also had all of the lead-up, the deception during the lead-up, so that The Axis powers that, you know, Germany, Nazi Germany, they didn't see what was happening. They didn't see the buildup. And the weather, gosh, the weather was so grim. Everything had to just hit perfectly. The timing, the weather. And before dawn, that's when Eisenhower gave that order. Operation Overlord is a go. And he addressed the troops that evening. And he said that you are about to embark upon the great crusade toward which we have striven these many months, and the eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and the prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you, and we will accept nothing less than full victory. Good luck, and let us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking. And then the next morning, 81 years ago today, you had 160,000 Allied troops that stormed about 50 miles, a 50-mile stretch of beach there. Not just beach, fortified coastline, Normandy. You had over 12,000 planes. You had something like almost 5,000 ships there. And you had airborne dropping divisions into France in the early morning hours, making sure that they could seize control of key bridges, key roads, all behind enemy lines. And I think from the U.S., the U.K., and Canada, you had 23,000 paratroopers. Of the landings, the bloodiest was Omaha Beach. U.S. forces. We had deadly terrain. You had underwater mines. You had, you know, these fortified bunkers in which Nazis could, they could pick off our troops as they were heading towards the sand and super heavy losses. And yet we prevailed. It began, it was like a war of attrition. Unfortunately, that was the tactic and it had to be. You had over 9,000 Allied troops killed or wounded this day, 81 years ago. But we got our foot into France. And from there, we cracked the stronghold of Nazi Germany. That phase, the assault phase, was Operation Neptune. And it went all the way through June and was really about building up supplies. Push, push, push, push, push inland. That was the whole goal. Inland from the beaches, interior France. This was a turning point because there were a lot of grim losses and it looked grim. You had the bombing of Britain. We saw what happened in Pearl Harbor in December and we were up against a great evil and we united and we pressed on and we fought and we had a mission and we achieved that mission. There was no mission creep. There was no coddling. There was no identity politics. There was one identity. You were an allied member. You were an American. You were a Brit. You were a Canadian. But you were a member of the Allied forces and you were fighting against a great tyranny. A tyranny you could see. A tyranny that had faces. A tyranny that had a body count. 81 years ago today, the greatest generation that ever walked this planet saved this planet. And we owe them everything. Everything. Everything. The scale, the immense planning was unlike anything ever. We achieved the objective and we left. We moved on. And it's an amazing thing. I just don't know if that's something that can be done today of that magnitude. There was a poem. It was written after World War I. Lawrence Binion. And I loved that. one of the stanzas in it where it said, they shall grow not old as we that are left grow old, and age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. And at the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. I told you last year that one of my favorite stories from D-Day was the story of the bagpiper. Bill Millen, the personal piper of Lord Lovett. This is one of my favorites. There's so many amazing stories. They had a rule against bagpipes on the front line and they were Scottish and they were saying, yeah, well, that's for the Brits. That's for the English. We're Scottish. And he played the road to aisles and it became an amazing moment in England. D-Day history because Lord Lovett had his personal Piper playing and everybody, the Germans thought he was nuts. They called him the Mad Piper. They thought he was crazy. You had rounds whizzing by. People were blown up and he played. He played to give courage. He played to give strength. He played for his men. It was just an amazing story. So welcome as we start this first hour of D-Day. Now, Kind of yesterday felt like a different type of D day, a destruction day, divorce day. It's the season finale of MAGA. I don't even know how. Kane, how long did it go on?
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
What do you mean? It's still going on, isn't it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, are the tweets still coming in hot and fast?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't know. I haven't seen any new ones recently, but man, there was quite the dump of them yesterday.
SPEAKER 11 :
Where do we start? So I think so. Elon Musk was critical of the big, beautiful bill. And then something that went from there, he was critical of the big, beautiful bill. And then Trump criticized Musk and then Musk criticized Trump. And and oh, my gosh, he dropped the Epstein stuff and was. Oh, my gosh. Can I just say, I don't think that Trump is I don't think that he was an Epstein. Client. He banned him from Mar-a-Lago, and we'll talk more about that. He banned him from everything. He was very critical of Epstein. He didn't like him. He thought he was a pervert. And if anything was going to come out, I mean, for crying out loud, you saw how those people were going crazy on the left in 2016. That would have come out. That would have been the first thing. But Musk had tweeted, time to drop the really big bomb. Trump is in the Epstein files. That's a real reason they've not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT. Oh, my gosh. Stop, mom and dad. Stop. Who gets custody of us? Who gets custody of the nation? I don't know. So it was a rough day yesterday because you have two of the biggest titans in this coalition that ended up fighting. And in a very public fashion. Fighting in a very, very public fashion. And... I wish that it would have been done all privately. Now that's to say, we don't know what has been, what was done privately and what wasn't. I will say that. Like, we don't know if they had these conversations private and that, you know, this ended up being kind of the consequence, all the falling out of that. You know, we don't, we don't know, but it ended up going public and we live in a culture where people flex online. And it's been like that for a while. Yours truly is just as guilty of arguing online. I mean, I love fighting. I love it. It makes me happy. And Cain will attest to this. I'm a weirdo. Like, if somebody, you know, if some political squawk tries coming at me, squawking at me, oh my gosh, you just made my day. My heart fills with joy. I'm like the Grinch. My heart grows. And I just get all warm, fuzzy feelings and it's amazing. And I'm like, yes! Yes! it's bad. We shouldn't be like, and our leaders shouldn't do this, but it, it happened and it is what it is. I also think too, that dudes argue differently. And I saw some people saying, this is peak masculinity. Oh, shush up dudes. Dudes argue differently. I do think that when you are a leader, you have an obligation to be a little bit more like Marcus Aurelius about it. And a little bit less like Jerry Springer. I think that's I just think that, you know, we we you got it. Somebody's we got to roll it back somehow. Both of these two dudes have done great things for this nation. I think Elon Musk and I I'm not down. I'm not I don't think this should be downplayed. I really do believe that Musk helped save speech in this country. I think he did. So with the acquisition of Twitter, now X, I think that he did a lot to save speech in this country, because think about where we would be. We had a lot. It was the only platform at the time when he acquired it. He turned it into the only platform that wasn't. I think the algorithm blows right now, but. at least they were working towards freeing speech. Whereas with Facebook and YouTube, my gosh, we get dinged on YouTube all the time. Even if it's not for anti-speech reasons. I couldn't even play Eisenhower's speech on D-Day for you because they dinged us and said it was copywritten content. We can't even play that for you on air. I can't play for you a number of famous speeches on D-Day. I can't play for you a lot of patent stuff. I can't play, you know, the Eisenhower address that he gave. I can't play that for you because it gets taken down. That's the stuff that, you know, you deal with. In addition to all of the times that people had their stuff taken down over COVID, the laptop, all that. My point is that Musk has done great things for this nation. Trump has led this nation through. I mean, the guy got shot at on stage for crying out loud. They both did great things. It's not mutually exclusive. You don't have to pick a side. You don't. We're going to talk more about this here coming up. We got a lot to unpack today. Summer is all about making great memories. Backyard barbecues, road trips, lake days, even just relaxing in a hammock with a good book. Spending time with friends and family, catching sunset views. But if you're living with pain... Those future memories can be stolen from you. It's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain. So here's a thought. Try Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain. It's a doctor-developed formula made with natural ingredients. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Today in sports ball, Aaron Rodgers has confirmed Pittsburgh Steelers' move in a $20 million contract announcement. I think I'm going to play football. Because you can make a lot of millions of dollars with football. And imagine it. I could play football. Know nothing about it. Just want my uniform to be cute. And I want, like, really good leather for my football. I can do anything. Girl, I can do anything. If a man can tuck and say he's a chick, then surely I can do this. He was let go by the Jets at the end of last season. He was considered in retirement. How old is he? How old is Aaron Rodgers?
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41.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh. So, now he's not. He's going to the Steelers. So, I guess. Is that considered old for football or no? 41, yeah. Oh, is it? Well, Tom Brady's like in his 40s. That's Tom Brady, though. Okay, yeah. I don't know. Um... Oh, my gosh, no. Why are we doing this? Madonna is apparently going to release, I don't care, a new Ray of Light remix album. Oh, boy. Ray of Light. Oh, my gosh. Too rare. Uh-oh. Doomsday Fish. So these Doomsday Fish, whenever they wash to shore, they're called oarfish. It's supposed to be like a sign of something bad happening, and it's linked to natural disasters. They look like fake things. They don't even look real. But they had two separate incidents, one in India and one in Tasmania, where they washed up on the beaches. And everybody's like, oh, my gosh, it's a harbinger of disaster. They are crazy-looking silvery fish. And they kind of look like wild sea serpents. They're huge. But they're from the deep. And when they wash up on the shore, it means bad. I don't know. Does it mean like was there some kind of underground disturbance? Is a kaiju going to come out? Trump and Musk are fighting. That's why the oarfish are floating to shore. So manga had predicted a great disaster in July 2025. So this is, you know, Japanese graphic novels, manga, and they have different genres. Some of them are for kids. Some of them are like adult graphic novels. But apparently this guy's called Japan's answer to Nostradamus says a bad thing is going to happen on July 5th. Maybe it's a mega quake. Or fight. Stick with us as we move. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. They make it so easy to get the medications that you need. No gatekeeping by Big Pharma. No gatekeeping from the government as well. And there was an executive order signed on May 12th to lower prescription costs so we can stop paying more than other countries. And, you know, you deserve medicines for fair prices without totally egregious markups. And All Family Pharmacy is offering a summer sale right now, 20% off of your entire order. And that's going to give you a little extra breathing room. And their prices are already affordable. First off, right now through June, they're offering 20% off site-wide. No insurance is required. I mean, they have licensed doctors in all 50 states. You get fast shipping right to your door. You can get your stuff in as little as two to three days online. If you're in a pinch, which I've absolutely done that, and they have come in clutch. And you can get everything that you need. Your day-to-day medications, antibiotics, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, everything. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and enjoy 20% off using promo code Dana20. Do not wait for permission to protect yourself and your family. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana20 to save 20%.
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Should not be personal. I trust the math from the guy that lands rockets backwards over the politician's math. I think that patient is on life support. And if the Senate thinks they're going to rehabilitate it and rewrite it, I think they're endangering this patient. I'd go with Trump politically.
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I mean... So I don't think you have to pick a side in this. And I would caution you against listening to the people who demand that you do. Because it's stupid. You don't have to pick a side in this. You don't have to. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. I wrote about this last night on Substack. Chapter and verse, if you get that. The newsletter. Because it's... I think people that are trying to get you to pick a side in the season finale of Macca are... They're motivated by their own interests. And I just think that there are a lot of things that we wouldn't have without either one of these guys. And I want them to work it out. And if they don't, everybody better learn how to just coexist because we have bigger fish to fry. That's the law. It's not your responsibility to mend bridges for anybody. Right. You don't have to pick a side. And all of this, these breathless click horror dramatists that are demanding that you do ignore them. You're not anybody's hired mercenary. Okay, you don't have to go and defend them. It is the job of elected officials and leaders to defend you. That's why they run for office and you elect them. They are the ones who stand there for you. They don't demand that you be their mercenaries. It's the other way around. But we do, I mean, live in a society that rewards online fighting. That's just the way it is. Here's the thing. And I talked about this, the art of disagreeing and remaining united. Didn't Reagan and Buckley, like, very vehemently disagree on a number of issues and they had public debates on it and they still maintained a friendship after. The right needs to remember how to do this. Do not be like the left. Don't be like the left that runs everybody out if they're not. You can't have a coalition and be a purist. Now, you can have a party and be a purist about your party. That's fine. In fact, you should be. Republicans, you should have your platform and your policy and that you should be purists on that. But your coalition is different. You work towards the things that you all agree with. And there are going to be disagreements. But if we're going to have this whole, I'm going to take my ball and go home every time, then you're a bunch of female copulatory organs. I can't say what I would really call you because I would, I'd get fined. And I'd have to call the FCC chairman, Brendan Carby, like, I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman, I got to use my get out of jail. free pass the one pass that you've promised me and he would be like why do you got to do that Dana I'm like because I call a bunch of people female copulatory organs on live air because they are and he would say well even if they are you can't do that I'm like but they are though and he would say no Dana so I can't I don't want to have the whole very awkward conversation with him right but you guys know what I mean we uh you have your the coalition is the republican party plus conservatives slash constitutionalists, plus libertarians, plus independents, right? That is the coalition. Now, you have the Republican Party, and that is not all of that. That's its own thing. On the left, you just have Democrats, and there's no one else allowed. Nobody else. Can't have anything else. Can't have any... deviation from hive mind. It's the Borg. You will be assimilated and you will love it. It's the way it is. It should be Carol Ross next book. You will own nothing to be happy. You will be assimilated and you will love it.
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Resistance is futile.
SPEAKER 11 :
Resistance is futile. Gosh, we don't want to be like them. Now that said, you want to make sure that we're still achieving the goals that we set out to achieve. uh i um gosh when kanye west even i mean kanye west for a brief moment i can't even believe i'm saying this i did not oh my gosh one of my kids was like you know what his song is right what his song was called the new song that he did i cannot even say it well no it was wasn't it heil inward Oh my gosh! Why? He was on X even. Going, bros, please no. We love you both so much. He was like, no, bros. Oh my gosh, it was... Even... I mean, when Kanye West enters the chat and is like, can you calm down? What is happening? What's happening here? It was a lot. I... I don't know. The bottom line is that we're not going to all agree on this bill. We can agree on reconciliation, and we can agree that what's being asked for in reconciliation is nowhere near enough, and that's great. But this... The fighting on this. And there are people that are looking at it in an advantageous way. They're thinking, oh, well, now if Musk is out, there's going to be room for someone else to influence Trump or be in the inner circle like that. I feel like there were people that were jealous of Elon Musk's friendship and association with the president. And that was kind of driving everything to this point. Apparently, this has been simmering behind the scenes for quite some time. Yeah, I mean, it definitely was. It had been simmering for a little bit. There were some of the stories that they had, like, oh, Susie Wiles is pushing Musk out of the White House and into a different building. And there was kind of a joke that POTUS made at one event where he was speaking. He was like, I can't get the guy to leave. And everybody laughs, and it's funny. But now I look back on it, and I'm like, I think he's actually being serious. Yeah. I don't know. He was out Mar-a-Lago. Apparently he lived at Mar-a-Lago for a while during the campaign. That's what I because he was there all the time. He lived there for a little while. I don't know. But all I know is that it helped the country and they work together and it benefits all of us for them to work together. They don't have to love each other and they don't have to be best buddies. But they need to have a working relationship, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
This is how I look at it because we all know Trump has a love for the country. We all know Elon Musk has a love for the country and its people. Right. That's all we have to know. Whatever little riffs or anything, especially the way the left capitalizes on, I think it's all noise at this point. I think they both have great motives. I think we just think that, hey, mom and dad still love the kids.
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They need to assure us of that by giving us two Christmases. I want tax cuts. I want all my tax cuts in. I feel like to make it up to all of us. I would take that, Cain. I'd be like, okay, yeah, I can take that. You know, I was thinking about this because I was talking with my kids yesterday. And, you know, there was the... it was brought up the idea of corporate involvement in politics and is what effect is that going to have on, I don't want to say corporate activism, but the involvement of like corporate heads in politics at this level. And is that going to kind of annex them, you know, out of the, I don't think it, I see what you mean. I don't think it does. I, it's a weird balance. bar to walk because you want all of these people that would be advantageous to achieving your mission on your side but at the same time too much influence and then who's actually in charge you know what I mean who's in charge then
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No, I see what you're saying, which is why I think governors are great choices for presidents.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's exactly why I always go for a governor, just like that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and business owners have a very good idea of how to make successful things happen through their boards of their businesses, which is very similar to local politics and politics in the state. I think there is a big benefit to including businessmen that think in this way, because I think a lot of times people can get jelly spines when they're politicians and they don't exactly do what's right for the people.
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Now, one of the things that happened that started that the left, I think, was trying to get more people. The left had Christmas yesterday. They had a field day yesterday because you had this travel moratorium. And then you also had this fight. The president announced a new travel ban. It was late Wednesday. So. It bars entry from 12 different countries and it limits entry from seven others. And this is after, you know, we had the situation in Boulder, Colorado, and this guy that overstayed his tourist visa, but then, you know, Biden gave him a work permit. And the president said that we cannot have open migration from a country where we cannot safely and reliably vet and screen. So it looks at Yemen, Somalia, Haiti, Libya, and several others, 12 countries. It also includes Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Iran, Libya, Sudan as well. And I think some of them, it's not they were suspended, but it's not an outright ban. And that's Venezuela, Sierra Leone, Togo, Laos, Cuba, Burundi. And they had several of their visa programs suspended, but there wasn't a ban. Now, this is very similar to what was happening during the first term. First off, it's not a Muslim ban because if it was a Muslim ban, then why doesn't it target like the biggest Muslim majority countries? Number one, because it doesn't. Number two, it does not cover. It's not exclusive to just Muslim countries either, unless you're trying to argue that people, for instance, in Venezuela are Muslim. I'm pretty sure they're not. Number three. I want the people who are decrying the moratorium on this to answer how you expect to safely vet for entrance individuals coming from those countries when we, A, do not have a working relationship with those countries in order to legitimately and honestly vet individuals. The individuals coming in to when some of these countries don't even have systems that allow you to vet the people coming in because they don't even keep this information. And three, when those countries have such a low bar for documentation that they don't even. they do not even enforce those kind of secure protocols. How do you expect then, based on that reality, to thoroughly and accurately vet individuals coming into the country? For instance, if you were hiring someone to work in your home, You would want to know, are you insured, number one? Are you doing this work legally, especially if it's like a skilled thing? Like what if it's like a wiring or something like that? You know what I mean? So are you skilled? Can you do this, number one? Are you insured, number two? You would ask these things and you would want to verify these things before you just allowed someone to come into your home. You're not going to go pick some rando off the street to come into your home and do this work. You are going to vet it. So why would you not do the exact same thing with people coming into the United States? That makes perfect sense. Every other country does it. Every other country doesn't. People who argue other. I think, honestly, some of the times the people that I think are against this stuff have never traveled outside of the United States. I don't know how, I don't think they've ever left this, the mainland. I really don't think that they have. Because they act like they've never gone through the process. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. And Patriot Mobile, they want to make sure that, you know, you want to be mindful with your money. They're mindful with the money that people send them for service. And so they're not going to put money behind things that you don't believe in or vote against at the ballot box. While also, providing you with exceptional nationwide coverage. They operate on all three major networks, so you get to stay connected wherever you go. And when you switch, you're working with a 100% U.S.-based customer service team. They're dedicated to making your switch easy. Keep your number, keep your phone, upgrade. It's never been easier to switch, and the choice is entirely yours. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Switch today and defend freedom with every call. and text you make. Get that free month of service using promo code Dana only at patriotmobile.com slash Dana or by calling 972-PATRIOT.
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Any quick reaction on what's going on with Elon Musk and President Trump on Twitter right now? Oh man, the girls are fighting, aren't they?
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The girls?
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Is she misgendering? Is she misgendering?
SPEAKER 11 :
I feel like she is. No, I don't know. I mean, is that supposed to be like a put-down? I mean, she pretended to cry outside of a parking lot, so I don't know. But, you know, I will say... this is kind of what happens when you have a big slap fight. I just don't like it when people try to portray it as, this is masculinity, what happens when, okay, those people are charlatans. It just is what it is. And you don't have to pick a side. You do not have to. You can like both of them. Just because they are fighting does not mean you have to go, OK, I guess they got to just completely disassociate. Stop doing that. That's so hive mind. You do not have to do that. And don't allow people to just browbeat you into doing it. It's ridiculous. And what it also does is it it obscures the bigger things right now in play. The rescissions package, which they're going to have a vote on that next Wednesday. And also the story that I was reading about in The New York Post. If I can pull if I can find it and pull it up, that gets into Iran ordering ballistic missile components from China, which is enough to fuel hundreds of explosives. Huh. This seems like what would happen like back in the 70s and 80s with Russia. Right. Like Cold War stuff. I mean, I love what they said. Some of the rocket propellant will likely find its way to Iran aligned militias, including the Houthis in Yemen. Yes, it's absolutely going to do that. That is absolutely what is going to happen. And we are now going to have Iranian backed militias using Chinese weaponry that are going to be launching attacks. on ships, including our own, going through the Red Sea. They've already been firing missiles at them. They've already been attacking some of our allies in that region. So that's all happening as Iran is trying to finalize and negotiate this deal with the Trump administration over its nuclear program. It's almost like they're there. Well, they're trying to hold us hostage. I mean, that's, you know, for that regime. But like, well, if you don't allow us to do this, then I guess we're just going to do this instead. It's very much that way. Of course, that came out. This report, it first was yesterday. I saw it in a couple of different publications yesterday. The New York Post had it this morning. This didn't get nobody's talking about this at all because everybody's been which i i get it everybody's been focusing on the trump musk fight and what that means not just for the administration but you know for us going into midterms and you know also for the bill and taxes and all this other stuff so it's you know it's a that's a it's a that's a big deal but i don't know how how are we how is the administration going to counter that How is that going to be countered? I'm just wondering. And also, we've got some stuff on immigration to hit as well, because now there's these stories coming out about people who, like, for instance, they're trying to say, oh, my gosh, this child from Southern California, he's a fourth grader. He was detained by immigration officials. He's going to be deported. Well, what Bill Maluj included everybody in on is that he and his whole family illegally crossed in here a couple of years ago. They've all been here illegally. Stick with us. Second hour on the way. Our partners over at Gold Co. I love gold. Love the gold standard. I love those hard assets. They offer real security and they've stood the test of time. You don't have to panic. You just be prepared. You can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today and you could qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. Real silver. instantly matched to your account, tax and penalty free. Think about it. I mean, national debt is rising about what I think 32% of it's going to be due for refinancing in the next 12 to 18 months. There's a lot of warnings about financial stability. So you need to be prepared. And this is where Goldco comes in. They can walk you through it with their 2025 gold and silver kit. Join the thousands like move called Goldco, the number one rated company, and see if you can qualify for and get that unlimited bonus silver. Dana likes gold.com.
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Good morning, John. Well, he said that he's, quote, well, here's exactly what he said, quote, I'm not even thinking about Elon. He's got a problem. The poor guy's got a problem. He said he won't be speaking to him for a while, but he said he wishes Elon Musk well.
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OK, well, I don't know. Maybe they'll get along. Of course, he is talking to CNN. You really think that Trump is going to be. Like, I'm going to tell you. I don't know. I'm not going to sit here and interpret it. It is what it is. I just don't give a rat's ass anymore. I'm just, you know, fight it out. Let him fight it out. Let him get it over with. I don't care. But I just care about what's best for the nation. What's best for us. It's all about us. It's not about anybody else. It's about us. Welcome. Top of the second hour. And we've got a lot still to unpack because we've got immigration. They're going to be holding votes on the rescission package next week. We'll talk about that as it gets closer. Whether or not this big, beautiful bill, whatever happens with this, I don't think anybody even knows what the Senate is going to send back yet. And the Senate... They're so good at being super conservative with the way they spend money and all that cane. They're very responsible, the Senate. Sure. Sure they are. They're super responsible. It all depends. I don't know what – we don't know. We were talking about this, the ban, though, and how the White House – is instituting this. It's a moratorium. I don't like to say ban just because it's just always, you know, not everything is a ban. Not everything has to be that. But I do think that it makes complete sense to not allow in routinely individuals who are coming from nations that have absolutely no ability to even vet its own citizenry, much less be able to vouch for, by way of documentation, et cetera, the legitimacy or the criminality or whatever of their citizens that are coming into the United States. We don't owe anybody anything. And like I said last hour, and I gave the example of, if you were hiring someone to come into your home and do work, you wanna make sure that they're legitimate, that they actually are skilled at doing the work. Like if whether it's, say it's wiring, say it's plumbing, whatever, gonna allow somebody just randomly to come into your, hey you, you there in the street, you look like you do, come on in, come on in and do this. This is not how that works. You wanna make sure that, so why would it be any less for having someone come into the United States? Doesn't make any sense. People are just they're so hypocritical on this stuff. They're so hypocritical. So I don't know. We it's that and these these judges that are constantly overruling POTUS. There was this red state had this piece of these federal this federal judge that stranded three ICE officers in Djibouti after an order was handed down to ground their flight. Seems like it's a big deal. You know, they have eight illegal immigrants. They were on their way to South Sudan. U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy stepped in late May, claiming that the Trump administration unquestionably violated a March decision on deportation. So they landed in Djibouti and ICE agents are not able to deal with what they said are outrageous conditions. They're marooned there. I mean, you've got right across the water, you've got attacks from Yemen and a federal judge barred their deportation. They're here illegally. They're from South Sudan. They're going back to South Sudan and now they're stuck in Djibouti. They were convicted of raping children. One was a convicted murderer, robbery and arson. That's who they're stranded with in Djibouti. And they're being housed on the shipping container on a U.S. naval base. And they have to be watched around the clock by ICE. And Pentagon officials warned ICE, hey, they're at risk of literal rocket strikes from Houthis that are just across the Red Sea there. And, of course, you have burn pits where people dispose of human waste and trash. You have all the toxicity, the smoke that comes from that. And so they also, DHS, this is the latest, this one was from a court listener through Red State. The agents didn't have any malaria medication. It's malaria season there right now. And some of them have already reported being sick and they're sharing bunk beds. They have limited supplies. And they have to have round-the-clock shifts to watch these eight dangerous, again, convicted murderers and child rapists die. and arsonists. Those are their convictions, who are here in the country illegally. They have to even escort them to the restroom. They have to go to the bathroom with them. One guy, His name is he's a Cuban national. He's not even from Sudan. Enrique Herrera. He was convicted of second degree murder, robbery, kidnapping, impersonating a police officer. He was supposed to be in prison for 15 years. You have another guy, Cuban national convicted of arson, cocaine trafficking, first degree murder. You have thonging. You look out. This guy's from Africa. He was convicted for first degree murder. He was sentenced to life in prison without parole. You have another individual convicted of second degree murder, stabbed his then roommate to death with a knife. Another guy who was convicted for raping a minor began routinely raping the child when the child was seven years old, starting when the child was seven. Another one also rape. He would he raped. His victims were mentally and physically incapable of resisting. Yeah. You have a Vietnamese national who was convicted of first degree murder. And then you have a Sudanese national who was convicted of armed robbery. So those are the people that ISIS stranded with in Djibouti because of an activist judge. Now, POTUS has asked the Supreme Court to intervene in the case, and so far, nothing. So, I don't know. I mean, this is what happens. You have the usurpation of the executive authority by judicial power. I have no idea. This is crazy. I mean, you're here in the country illegally. You are a dangerous murderer, convicted dangerous murderer. And they're more upset with... these activist judges are upset that these dangerous murderers are being deported from the country? Do they want to hang out with them and have margaritas? I don't understand. What is the objection to this? Like, I don't understand how the left can defend it. Why is the left defending these people? Like, you have actual child rapists, like convicted child rapists in this group. And notice I said plural. why would the left defend this? I don't even know. I wouldn't deport them. I would drown them in the sea. I don't know why. You prey on kids. You're a rapist and you die. That's it. You die. But no, no, no. Our left wants to give them free housing and have margaritas with them and help them live the good life. Meanwhile, our veterans get nothing. Just saying. It just doesn't make any sense. This judicial overreach is so dangerous. It is so incredibly dangerous. And if you don't have the consistency of equality before the law, which is how it works in a republic, I don't know what you got. But it ain't a republic. It's not a republic at all. But that's... That's not getting a lot of traction. Bill Mellujian was talking about how this is how the media reports this stuff. They had this is KTLA. Federal officials confirmed that a Southern California fourth grader was detained by immigration officials and is going to be deported. Oh, and there was a lot of discussion about it, how mean it is, what they actually forgot to report. is that the whole family are from Honduras and they crossed illegally a couple of years ago. And they were offered, they came here illegally in 2021. A judge in 2022 offered to return them like no penalty. The dad appealed, it was rejected and they refused to leave. So now they're gonna be deported together. Why would KTLA leave that out of the story? They didn't include any of that in there. They just talked about how ignorant it was that the administration, because of new policies, is deporting a fourth grader. Kane, they're so mean. OMG. This seems like that's a pretty significant story here. I don't know. I want to switch gears here. Audio somebody 12 MSNBC. Do you think that Democrats are going to get Elon Musk back?
SPEAKER 01 :
So what do the Democrats do with someone like Elon Musk, given how powerful he is? Do they keep trying to push him off to the sidelines, given how erratic he is, given his... I mean, there's been a lot over the past year. Or do they try to recruit him back into the fold? Because, again, that money... With our campaign finance laws, which I think are broken and should be amended, that money really matters, especially when you have a lot of AI firms now backing prominent Republican races because they think Republicans... The left would love this.
SPEAKER 11 :
They love their big business people backing their causes. They have no objections. They only object when it happens on the right. That's the only time that they ever object. You're not going to recruit Musk back. And I don't think Musk, I mean, his positions are genuine, which they seem to be. You're not going to go. It's not a case of who likes me more. It's a case of whose policies make sense. If you're opposed to spending in the big bad bill, then why would you go and embrace the party that made it worse and actually is one of the reasons why it's bad? Why would you embrace that? Why would you go to that on steroids? It doesn't make any sense. I think that's a fool's errand for the left to even entertain this. It's silly. It doesn't make any sense. But I don't know. I... I don't think that he's going to. If anything, he talked about doing a third party. He was saying, well, we need like an 80 percent party, et cetera, et cetera. I will tell you this. Republicans not listening to fiscal common sense. That will absolutely get them in that. They will find themselves in that Tea Party situation all over again. And it didn't work out so well for them at all last time. Now, I always am going to tell you that it's incredibly important to make sure, I think you should carry. I think you should train. I think you should carry. And I have no problem using lethal force to defend myself or my loved ones. The issue is that in some instances, we're blocked from being able to adequately defend ourselves, whether it is due to a municipal restriction, whether it's due to private property rules, whatever. And I especially worry you know, for college kids that are too young to carry a handgun, but also want to be able to protect themselves, you know, if they're walking to their car or whatever, this is where the Berna gun comes in. Now, if you compare this to regular like stun guns, you got what, one or two rounds there. Berna gives you five rounds. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can stop threats from up to 50 feet away. There's no recoil. It's legal in all 50 states. There's no background check. It does not care about gun-free zone signs. It can be shipped directly to your front door. It is accessible. to everyone. There's two versions specifically that I think you should check out. They've got rifles in that, but I think you need to look at for this purpose, the Berna SD or the Berna CL. That's their new one, CL stands for compact launcher. And it's actually 38% smaller than the SD, which is their best selling defensive model. And everything is proudly made in the USA. Visit Berna.com. Check out your options. There's different colors, there's different accessories and so much more. Get your hands on the new Burna CL. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana Burna. Ready when you are.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I feel like this is scary. This is like a horror film. Amazon is apparently developing software for humanoid robots that could perform the role of delivery workers and spring out of the vans. It's a $2 trillion technology company. They're building a humanoid park to test the robots. And they said that they could eventually take the jobs of the delivery workers. And does that mean that, because I got some really great Amazon delivery workers, but then I have some of the other ones that are like, I feel like I threw the box close enough to the driveway that counts. But they said that they're developing the AI that's going to power the robots. I don't know how I feel about this. Yeah. People think that there's a serial killer prowling Texas. 38 bodies have been pulled from a lake in the past three years. Oh, sounds like it's Glock o'clock. The discovery is there's another... It was Lady Bird Lake in Austin. A teenage boy missing since Sunday was discovered by a paddle boarder. And they think that the rainy street ripper... They think that there's renewed fears that this mass murderer is loose in the city. And police insist the killer's not roaming the streets. And they said only one of the cases was a homicide. But still, I'm ready for Glock o'clock. All the same, just saying. A crew was charged with taking nearly... $32,000 worth of candles from a store in Fairfax, Colorado. How do you spend that much on a candle? It's a string of thefts. I guess, what, they're going to resell them?
SPEAKER 10 :
A bunch of candles, yeah.
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30. Oh, my gosh, that's insane. Let's see. Also, oh, this is so gross. So a baseball player. This is in New Mexico, Rio Rancho. They're not pursuing charges against a teenager who is accused of urinating in a rival baseball team's water jug. It happened between two high schools, and one of the principals sent a letter to the JV baseball family saying that a Rio Rancho student admitted to it, and the players and coaches drank from it. Oh, my gosh. They said that there are no statutes that make it illegal to interfere with someone's food and battery consists of unlawful touching or application in a rude and insolent manner. They said, so technically, the conduct isn't criminal. Really? Seriously? Seriously? Seriously. I mean, that is absolutely ridiculous. I think he should be kicked off the baseball team. Barred for the rest of his career. Oh, high school career. Yes, absolutely. That's a serious thing. That is a very serious thing. Yeah, it absolutely is. I couldn't even believe that that. I don't know. Apparently it says this is a stupid study by a horrible British communist newspaper, The Telegraph. And it says that women should drink no more than six glasses of wine a year. A year. Was this written by beer people? I'm like, did a can of beer actually write this? I'm curious. I'm just, you know, I've got some questions. Also, let's see here. Oh, we got this. The fix for parched Western states, recycled toilet water. Isn't toilet water kind of recycled already anyway? I don't know, but they're saying that in California, I mean, they live by a sea. They could have a desalination plant, but they decided to waste billions of dollars on a high-speed rail that was never built. So instead, they're going to just recycle toilet water for everybody to drink. Yay! Speaking of that, water flow was restored to residents of one town after a sewer main led to interruption. Oh, that's not the time that you want to have that issue either. This was in Rowlett, Texas. There once again, they had to tell people, don't flush your commodes. They had a sewer main that collapsed. How was the sewer main collapsing? Like, how is this happening? So coming up, we're going to talk about the rescissions package. What? You know, it's like nine point four billion. Is there a way to tack more onto it? Stick with us. Our friends over at Caltech, the PR-57, P-R-57. This is a great, it's a great, a great gun. And it's from Kel-Tec. And they've really changed the game on a lot of this stuff. And this is no different. The PR57 rotary barrel pistol is the lightest 5.7 that's out there. 40% lighter than the competition. Perfect for concealed carry. You can actually conceal carry this thing because it's 40% lighter and it's so thin. The unique top loading design. So get this. It doesn't have traditional magazines. It top loads with stripper clips. That gives it a slimmer carry profile and a 20 plus 1 capacity. And that rotary barrel, that also helps redefine the size. And the MSRP is only $399. It is so ridiculously affordable. This is one that you have to have and you can have. Low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. Built to perform. And it's just incredibly innovative, groundbreaking from Kel-Tec. All-American labor, all-American parts, family-owned Kel-Tec right here in the U.S. of A. It's the new PR57 Chambered in 5.7 from Kel-Tec. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Innovation, performance, Kel-Tec. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Those Doge employees, the people that Axelrod was just talking about, are very dangerous. If Donald Trump is smart, the first thing he's going to do is fire, investigate, and prosecute all of Elon's people who are all throughout government with their laptops downloading data right now. You think he should prosecute them? Listen, I don't think that what they're doing is legal.
SPEAKER 11 :
OK, that's not even accurate. First off, that's oh, my gosh, I totally forgot his name. What's his face? Van Jones. That's right. On CNN, he's talking to Anderson Cooper. Can we just I got to correct it right off the bat because I can't continue. They have read only access that's covered by an NDA. No one's downloading anything from the system. That's fake news that they're that's that's not even accurate. What did they do that's illegal? It's a glorified audit. It's not any different than what Tom Coburn's staff did previously with his waste book. So you're going to go after Coburn's staff, too? This is just asinine. These people are all clutching pearls because this is billions of taxpayer dollars that has been wasted on what? NPR? Oh, the Hunter Biden laptop. That's just a local news story. PBS? Like, what have we gotten for our taxpayer dollars? Nothing. I don't even get a card from Big Bird for my birthday. And I pay more in tax to those people than any of their donors. So what do we get out of it? Joining me now on this, I just get so mad talking about this, David Boesel, who's the president of the Media Research Center, who's taken over from his most excellent father, who founded that great organization 30, almost 40 years ago, which is crazy to think it's been that long. David, it's so good to see you. Thank you so much for joining. I just got to get your reaction to that. Why are they so, I mean, it's a glorified audit. It's their tax dollars too, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, look, Van Jones does not know very well what he speaks. There was an issue, I remember, in Department of Labor. Department of Labor, those guys came in, they had the read-only access, they needed to see it. It was against the law for Department of Labor employees to give read-only access to people who were not technically Department of Labor employees. So guess what? A week later, they figured all that out. They became technically Department of Labor employees. All was well with the world. So, look, I wish those I wish like I like Donald Trump, obviously. I like Elon Musk, obviously. Smart guys. I wish they'd find two different hydrants to go fight over. And we'll figure it out from there. That's what I'm sure they'll make up.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think they'll make up. I mean, I will. They go back to being like first buddy. I don't know. Like I was joking, like who gets the nation in the custody battle? Like, you know, I don't you. But it makes sense. I mean, I think they've always been pretty straightforward with one another. I mean, Musk sat right next to Trump and was like, I don't like the spending in this, you know, whatever. And I get that. I just, you know, obviously it benefits the country for them to get along. I don't think, though, David, I don't think that Democrats are going to get Musk because they spent all night last night. I saw some of it, unfortunately, thinking, hoping that he was going to come back to their camp. I don't even think he was ever in their camp, really. Was he?
SPEAKER 06 :
He was Democrat-lite at most. He's more libertarian. His political musings are more libertarian than anything else. They always have been. Now, look, if I'm Speaker Johnson, I am engaging in some donor cultivation here. He is, by and large, the Republican Party's biggest donor. So I am going to try to bridge some of these gaps and try to be a little bit of a peacemaker because Mike Johnson has a responsibility as fundraiser-in-chief of the Republican caucus. So he'll step up to the plate and try to make that so because you should do that. As a manager of donor resources, you want to honor all that. But again, I think they'll be fine. I really do. Look, this could be about policy. It could be about the NASA thing. It could be about something personal. This is obviously heated and people are taking it to Twitter, but I think it'll all die down and they'll have a reconciliation.
SPEAKER 11 :
We're talking to David Boesel with Media Research Center. I was thinking, I was a kid in the 80s, but I remember Reagan debated with people on the right. And they were still friends like they had very public debates. And yet everybody still came together when it counted. I mean, why is that so unusual? Because I feel like a lot of the reaction to this is overreaction. Why is it? Why do people think it's so unusual?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, look, take it just on a personal level. My father and President Trump sparred during the first campaign in 2016. Yeah. Well, my father had endorsed Ted Cruz. So by definition, he was against Donald Trump's candidacy. He had previously endorsed Ted Cruz way early on in the primary. And Donald Trump didn't like that too much. And they sparred over X, well, Twitter back then. And now my father is President Trump's South African ambassador-designee. So they've reconciled any differences that they had. And so, yes, those things are temporary, particularly in politics. This is politics, right? This is not a blood sport here. And Elon Musk has done a terrific job putting waste, fraud and abuse into the forefront of the mind of the American voter, especially utilizing one of the world's biggest communication engines that man has ever created. So I think he's done yeoman's work. And so, again, I think they'll be fine.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you think because I know the rescissions proposal, they said that's like one of several. I think the first votes on that are Wednesday. And it's like nine point four billion. I know, which is not a lot compared to the one hundred and seventy billion that they were saying that Doge could save nine point four. But it's yeah, it's a start. I mean, that has to make him happy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, well, we both know Russ Vogt. Russ has been on record. This is the first of many, his words. So we're super excited about that. This will be the first of many rescission packages. Look, I understand Elon Musk was frustrated that his identified cuts were not in the reconciliation package. That has a lot to do with what's mandatory spending versus what's discretionary spending.
SPEAKER 11 :
In spines and easy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, right. So a lot of the USAID stuff that he identified is in this first rescission package along with Corporation for Public Broadcasting, PBS and NPR, which Media Research Center has been at the forefront for the better part of the last 38 years. Oh, yeah. trying to convince Congress to let's get on with it, right? This is an operation that is antiquated in its technology. It has outlived its usefulness. I know NPR and PBS are running around Washington, D.C., trying to say that farmers will never be alerted to a tornado if they don't have NPR. And that's been their tagline. And I think farmers are going to be just fine. We have the emergency broadcasting system for that. So this is $1.2 billion in removal of CPB's funding. Interestingly enough, Dana, They are on record in congressional testimony testimony saying that that government funding only accounts for less than one percent of their funding. But they're also on record saying that they will collapse if they don't have less than one percent of their funding. The two don't make sense.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it doesn't make sense at all. They can't they can't have it both ways. And I just think if the people wanted if people wanted to support PBS or NPR, why aren't all the people on the left writing bigger checks to do? I mean, nobody's stopping them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nobody. Yeah, go for it. I mean, one of the other interesting things is they claim that they're a voice for local news, right? And they're one of the few remaining voices for local entrenched news. We did an analysis on most of every station that NPR is carried. 23 out of 24 hours every single day are beamed into that local market from New York, D.C. or Boston. Only one hour at most is devoted to any sort of local programming in some of these local markets. So even that claim doesn't have any real residents. So they really don't have much of a leg to stand on. They've been laughably left wing. almost for the entirety of their existence. David Brooks, the so-called conservative, has been out there. He basically called Elon Musk whole pot a couple weeks ago, saying that his cuts are going to result in hundreds of thousands of deaths. No evidence of that whatsoever. You mentioned at the top how they just dismissed the Hunter Biden laptop story. Not a real story. not something that the public would be interested in. Christiana Rapport, she's a PBS anchor. She just gave a commencement speech to Harvard just the other day, very anti-Trump screed, I won't bore you with it. But she said in her speech that she was afraid to come to America as if she was visiting North Korea.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, she had to get a burner phone, she said.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, it's just silly. They're way off. They're viciously left wing. Their guess ratios, Democrats to Republicans, are way out of balance. Four to one, six to one. It's more Democrats than Republicans. So they have a left wing agenda, right, funded by the United States taxpayer that doesn't need to be. They can go out and get all this funding themselves and survive in the free market by themselves.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. And they should be. And it's insane for anyone to expect otherwise. Talking with David Bozell with Media Research Center. And you guys have been. And I remember the analysis that you did of that. We talked about that on air because that was they really were overselling how. Their contributions to local news by by quite a bit. Let me ask you this. Is there are you concerned that because I feel like the left going after the Musk and Trump thing isn't so much about Musk and Trump, but they're trying to get ahead of a lot of these cuts as well on this vote next week. It's going to be so hard for some of these lawmakers with razor-thin majorities. If you had to get out your crystal ball, how is media going to try to do their job of influencing people away from agreeing to these cuts and agreeing to the refusal to spend this money?
SPEAKER 06 :
Actually, the Musk-Trump feud actually might be the best thing. Because if I knew news bureaus right now, every single reporter has been tasked to figure out what went wrong, what went wrong between Trump and Elon Musk. And they're descending on the White House. But the action regarding the reconciliation and rescissions bills is on Capitol Hill. So it actually kind of might work, you know, sort of have a net plus benefit. I think some members of Congress had tired of Elon's proclamations about the work that he was doing. vis-a-vis Doge. They operate with CBO scores and those types of things. And that's not a lexicon that Elon was ever familiar with. And he never could translate his projected savings into the language that they're familiar with. So I think having that kind of out of the picture might actually embolden some members. The Senate so far has been has been the majority of the senators have been vocal have said they want to go deeper in cuts than the house version did wow so that's really that's promising you know from a government spending standpoint that's super promising so i actually think we'll be okay on the npr thing look i think 90 of republicans would have voted for this yesterday there's probably a nine percent of of the chamber that is hesitant but yeah but they'll do it anyway maybe one percent is going to hold out uh for a deal of some kind but i really do think we're going to get there in both chambers
SPEAKER 11 :
I hope so, from your lips to God's ears.
SPEAKER 06 :
Glass half full.
SPEAKER 11 :
I hope so. I've got to ask you before we go. I never, ever do cruises, and I'm doing one with you. I'm going on a cruise with you. We're going to the fjords. We're going to go where the giants live. Talk to us a little bit about this, because this is the Media Research Center's seven-day cruise to Norway. It's amazing. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's Joe Consig, yourself, Colonel West, Tim Young, Michelle Tavoya, the Sorbos. Your husband is going to be coming along, too. We'll put him to work, such as that you allow it. But, yeah, we've got a full crew, full team, great audience. There's a few tickets still available if you want to come out to Norway just over Labor Day weekend. and come out and see the sights and have some bonding with free-thinking souls and learn a thing or two. And we have a ton of fun doing it.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's probably going to be like the most liberty that Norway has seen in a long time. going to be so fun it's august 30th september 6th uh you can go to mrccruise.com to check that out and that's going to be that's going to be a good time it's going to be a really good fellowship yeah we will david bozell i have to have you back especially after we watch everything unfold over the next couple of weeks with these recent proposals but it's always so good to see you congrats by the way becoming president congrats to your dad as well good to talk with you
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks so much.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
SPEAKER 11 :
it's time for florida man oh let's see here so where do we start uh well we've got this story uh oh goodness where's hang on let me pull this up i just lost it because i was looking at another florida man story florida man attacked an officer because he refused to pay a restaurant bill he was arrested it was a 50 bill Daniel Robinson also choked the officer, prompting another officer to intervene with force. He now faces multiple charges, including attempted homicide of a law enforcement officer and battery. They didn't say which or which restaurant. They just said it was an Orlando restaurant. But he's a 22 year old guy, I think, according to his mugshot. Looks like he got punched in the face a bunch. But he, because he was trying to kill the guy, he was trying to strangle him. It was Orlando PD that responded. So he was taken into custody. Of course, he got treated for the injuries that he sustained after he tried to murk an officer. A plane crashed off a beach in Florida. Two dudes and a dog were rescued. And it was all actually because modern society, so much of it was on video. It was a Piper PA-23 plane. Thankfully, they made it to shore with the help of a good Samaritan Florida Fish and Wildlife in Brevard County. Brevard Sheriff's Office responded. It was a single engine plane. But two dudes and a dog. Everybody's in good condition. Can you imagine your plane crashes and you're in good condition? Disney refuses to say if a guy who posted photos of women in the park bathroom is going to be banned. from the Federalist, a man dressed as a woman, who I guess you can do that, you can be a man, you can just decide to dress as a woman for the day and you can go in the women's restrooms. He took photos of himself in 10 different women's bathrooms all over Florida Disney World and he put it up on Instagram and it showed him ranking the bathrooms on a scale of one to 10 and it had all the other women in the background of his photos. And it's the guy, the same guy who got mad because a server at Disney called him, sir. He's literally in the bathroom showing invading all these women's privacy. And he is taking photos of himself. He clearly looks like a guy. It's it's almost like it's a prank. And there's women all in the background of these photos that are trying to use the restroom. There is one woman who looks like she's at a changing table with an infant. I mean, this is insane. And they won't say if the guy who's violating these women's privacy in the restrooms, whether or not that, you know, he's going to still be allowed there. And he even like tag Disney was like, thanks for letting me use the women's bathrooms. It was like he's like it's like he's taunting them. And under the Florida statute, it's a felony for anybody who intentionally uses or intentionally installs imaging devices to secretly view, broadcast, or record people without their knowledge or consent if they are in basically the bathroom. So what he's doing is a crime. This is privilege right here that this guy can do this. And those are just some of the photos. There's tons of ladies in the background of so many of his photos. Why does he get to do this? Because he's he's protected because he's a dude who's cosplaying as a woman. That's awful. We have a lot more in store, including the season finale of MAGA. And this has been the biggest fight on the right, I think, since the Tea Party in 2009. Stick with us. More to come. I'm telling you about Angel Studios. This is the studio that had the courage to bring the world the sound of freedom. So how can you be part of it? Well, you can join the Angel Guild. King of Kings, an animated story about the life of Jesus, is now streaming on the Angel app. And when you watch King of Kings, it's going to move you. It's beautiful, it's powerful, and it's unlike anything else that's out there. It opened first on April 11th and broke records and earned an A-plus cinema score. So as a premium Guild member, you can watch King of Kings and access fan-curated films and receive two free tickets to every theatrical release. And the best part is that you are part of deciding what stories get told next. Experience the power of King of Kings, a film that's moving hearts and inspiring faith. Visit angel.com slash Dana to watch now and be part of this life-changing movement by becoming a Guild member. That's angel.com slash Dana.
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SPEAKER 11 :
This is, I think, so indicative of where we are as a society as well. It feels like the season finale of MAGA. I don't know if they're going to make up or not. That may change, but it feels like We were watching this, you know, it's like you're watching a reality show and you have the season finale of it and you're taking it all in and, oh my gosh, mom and dad are fighting. I don't know if you follow me on Instagram or not, but I found this most amazing, Amazing AI image ever. And it's of like a 70s Trump and he's in this just one of the most horrific jackets I've ever seen in my life. And Elon Musk. And it's like mom and dad. It feels like mom and dad are fighting. And I don't know who's going to get custody of us. Who gets custody of the nation? I don't know. Who gets custody? Those are the most bitching glasses I've ever seen.
SPEAKER 10 :
Juan's putting that up right now.
SPEAKER 11 :
I need those sunglasses. Oh, my gosh. I would actually knock him down and rob him for those sweet Jim Jones sunglasses. This is my favorite. I put it to the tune of Al Green's Let's Stay Together. And all of you out there were so disturbed by this. But can I just appreciate that jacket is so loud, but the hair is so sweet. And, I mean, it works. I would believe that.
SPEAKER 10 :
I can smell the cigarette smoke.
SPEAKER 11 :
Dude, can't you? And the leather seats, the Corinthian leather seats, the cigarette smoke, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Is that Olin Mills?
SPEAKER 11 :
It feels like it's an Olin Mills photo, right? I need to see, like, you know, that's the nation's parents right now. I don't know. I don't know who gets custody of us. I just hope that I get willed those sunglasses, those sweet shades. I don't know.
SPEAKER 10 :
That jacket's mine.
SPEAKER 11 :
golly you can have that jacket that jacket is like ronald mcdonald's 70s french fries crusted ketchup that's what that jacket is but the glass i mean it's just loud and in charge i don't know who gets custody of the nation i don't know what happens it was so awkward it was so awkward looking at all of this i don't know if we have all of these uh these the tweets that they have is it tweets or is it i don't even know what the hell it is tweets posts whatever I don't know. I want to kick with Audio Soundbite 1 because this is when I knew they weren't playing. We'll get into that. The 11DD chess, whatever. This is when I knew that they weren't playing. Audio Soundbite 1.
SPEAKER 12 :
He's upset. Remember, he was here for a long time. You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the Oval Desk. And even with the black eye, I said, you want a little makeup? We'll get you a little makeup. But he said, no, I don't think so, which is interesting and very nice. He wants to be who he is. So you could make that statement, too, I guess. Look, Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know if it will anymore. I was surprised because you were here.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, you have two titans that are clashing and everybody else can get hurt in the process. And that's what we don't want to happen. And they, yes, you know, I said this when I was on Ingram last night. Yes. These are two people with outsized egos. And you have to have a large ego to be where you are at the level where they are because you can't survive if you don't. I mean, that's kind of like this commonality with all of these people. I mean, you kind of have to have an outsized ego to survive, right? So we had the... The tweets started. I don't even remember. There were so many. At one point, I lost track. We were going to go through all of them and throw them up. But they kept doing it. And Musk was like, yeah. And then he said that he was going to decommission Dragon X. I don't even remember. Juan, there's so many of them now. They would not stop. We were going to go through it. And you guys, there's so many. Just go through. He said, whatever. Keep the EV solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil and gas subsidies. And remember, Elon Musk is actually on record as saying that he wants all of that to go away. I mean, he literally sat there and he said over and over again, yes, we need to get rid of this. We need to get rid of all of these things. And then the Epstein tweet happened and I don't even know. It went into the Epstein tweet. I don't think that I don't think that he is really saying that Trump's a pedophile. I can't even believe I'm having this conversation right now. So nuts. Did we accidentally get drunk or high? Like what happened?
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When mom and dad fight.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's so confusing because he drops this and he's like, haven't I stayed DJT? I don't really because he's had little X hanging out with POTUS, right? He's had little X on Marine One with POTUS. I mean, I don't think he believes. I think he's just trying to make it all very uncomfortable. This is we have a society where everybody flexes online. This is part of it. So he's saying he said that, you know, he's in the Epstein files, etc. Then from this tweet. Before we go to the next, from this tweet, there was like an Epstein off. Like, who can get more photos with Epstein? And I'm pretty sure that halfway through, most of them were AI generated. Like, I really, I saw a picture of Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and Epstein apparently chugging from a champagne bottle. And I'm like, pretty sure that's AI. Because I don't think that Elon Musk was that old in the 80s. Anyway. It just went crazy. And then POTUS went back at him. Musk went back at POTUS saying that he was going to then decommission Dragon SpaceX. And then Musk said Trump would have lost the election without me. I do believe that this is true. I believe that's true. I think that Trump needed Musk to win the election. I think that technology needs Republicans to progress. So it's kind of like tit for tat. I think that both of them need each other. And the nation needs both of them. Look, ta-da! Look, can we all get along? I love fighting. But this makes me nervous. It makes me incredibly nervous. So... Is it 11 DD chess? I don't think it is. I think that this is just the sign of the times. I think this is what happens when you have two titans who come together in this fashion and they duke it out. And it all is played out very publicly for a society that loves the public fight. It's like our new gladiators. This is what we have progressed to. We're going to have more on this coming up. But this is exactly what we've progressed to. We're also going to get into some of the reactions to all of this and how this is the biggest fight, I think, on the right since 2008, 2009. I really do believe that. So let's be real. Medical freedom isn't just a catchphrase. It's your right. Your health decisions belong to you and not the government, not Big Pharma, and definitely not some unelected bureaucrat. So that's why I'm all in on what All Family Pharmacy is doing. They're putting medical power back where it belongs, and that's in the hands of you, Americans. Through the end of June, they're making it even easier to take back control because when you control your health, you protect your family, your future, and your freedom. Get 20% off site-wide. No insurance, no problem. No insurance needed. And licensed doctors in all 50 states. You'll also receive fast shipping straight to your doorstep. This isn't just about convenience. It's also about freedom. You can get ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. You can get methylene blue, emergency kits, antibiotics. Whatever you need to be prepared, proactive, and protected. So visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use promo code Dana20 to get 20% off your order. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana20. Don't wait for permission. Own your health and take your freedom seriously.
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The reactions to this have been pretty interesting. I I before I get into that, I wanted to play this flashback just really quickly. Audio soundbite to where Elon Musk had sat next to Trump and explained this. He said that this was his position from the beginning. So for some of the reactionaries that were out there saying that, well, Elon Musk should have brought this up. I would think that this audio soundbite was kind of a clear indication of where he stood. Listen.
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Provided the economy grows faster than the money supply, which means you stop the government overspending and the waste, and the output of real useful goods and services exceeds the increase in money supply, you have no inflation. And you also drop the interest payments that people pay. The reason the interest payments are so high is because the national debt keeps increasing. So the government is competing to sell debt with the private citizens. This drives up the interest rate. If you cut back on the deficit, you actually have an amazing situation for people because you get rid of inflation and you drop the interest rates. And that means people's mortgage payments go down, their credit card payments go down, their car payments go down, their student loans go down. Their life becomes more affordable and their standard of living improves.
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He gets it. He gets it. For the first time ever, I think I'm going to actually seriously disagree with Chip Roy. Chip Roy remarked on this when he said that Musk crossed a line. Audio soundbite 8.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't think he crossed the line. Do you think he crossed the line? I don't think he crossed the line. Yeah.
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So you don't think the Epstein thing that he tweeted out was over the line?
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, you're talking about, if we're going to talk about where the line was, was the line accusing Ted Cruz of being the killer of JFK? I mean, where's the line? The line's been gone for a long time, guys. We're not going to turn into giant female copulatory organs right now because of this, are we? I mean, everybody's been slinging the feces for quite a long time. I am not going to have a bunch of people who are out there like, simp, simp, cuck, cuck. Cook this, simp that. I'm not going to have people going, that was too mean. No, there's no, welcome to politics, 2.0, baby. That's what this is. Everybody gets bitch slapped. Everybody. Bring it on. That's what this is. So, no, I don't think he crossed the line. And I also think, I mean, he didn't put out... Look, I do not think that Trump was... Trump hated Jeffrey Epstein, by the way. Didn't he ban him from Mar-a-Lago? Like, he banned him before banning Epstein was a thing. He thought he was a weirdo. He thought he was a pervert. He never... If there was any kind of association there, I think it maybe was maybe perhaps was a business one because there was a time when Trump had a little bit of a rocky road financially. He came back from it. I mean, people go through this all the time. And I think that maybe that was the association. But he had banned him. He was running him down in the press like for a long time. So I don't believe that. Also, if there had been anything, Democrats would have had it and they would have leaked it for forever ago. My gosh, they literally were making up stories about Russian collusion. But do I think it was too far? No. Do I wish that they would have handled this privately? Of course. But they didn't. So, you know, we could sit here and be like, if, if, if, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. We could do this all day long. The reality is that they didn't handle it that way. So here's where it is. All right. Some of the other reactions. I like I just disagree with Chip Royce. Who was it that do we have the I'm not a. I'm not a fan of Steve Bannon just because I've known him for over a decade and I used to work with him. So I I have a little bit of an inside track. I think when you start talking about deporting people who are here as citizens and he's a citizen, he's an American citizen. And this also sounds like Marxism. Listen to this. This is so stupid. The only time I'm going to play this on my program.
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know anything. He's a know-it-all. He knows some engineering. Don't get me wrong. I give a hat tip for that. But he doesn't know anything about the real world. Doge was, again, for any fanboys that still exist, while you're wrapping up in your cape tonight, understand on Doge, he didn't find any fraud. There's plenty of fraud out there. This is President Trump's first complaint. Was this all BS, right, with the Doge? The action that President Trump should be taking immediately, I think, when he threatens to take one of the big programs out of SpaceX, President Trump tonight should sign an executive order calling for the Defense Production Act to be called in SpaceX and seize SpaceX tonight before midnight.
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Okay, that's just plain stupid. That's one of the dumbest things that I've ever, that's like drunk girl logic. That's drunk chick logic. I just think, you know, that maybe we should just seize that. No, that's not what we're doing. I mean, for crying out loud, are we going to be statist about this now too? Just because, so if we disagree with someone, we're going to bring on the full force of government to start seizing companies and do it. No, we're not. Because you know why? Because we're not Californians. We're not Democrats. We're not Biden. We're not Newsom. So we're not going to sit here and do this stuff. And I just find it incredibly ironic for worthless people to complain about the worthlessness of others. But that being said, this is just dumb. Steve Bannon, again, I've known him for over a decade and I worked with him. So I have insight. He's just jealous. And that's what all of this is. If you've noticed anybody that's ever gotten into too close to Trump in Trump's orbit, he would react that way. I do not trust a guy like Bannon who all starry eyed led this notorious, notoriously bad progressive journalist through the White House because I guess he was happy with the attention that he was getting. A guy who literally called Donald Trump Jr. a traitor over the fake story of Russian collusion about him meeting that Natalia Levitskaya, whatever lady with Fusion GPS in a hotel in New York. That was all fake and he called him a traitor over it. So no, I don't trust someone who turns on a dime like that at all whatsoever. And I also don't trust anyone that would bring down the full weight of the government on someone over just because of a disagreement. Seriously? This is asinine. So, no, I don't disagree. I don't agree with those things. The other issue with this, this is like the biggest fight on the right since 2009. I remember back in the early Tea Party days, this was like 2008, 2009. And the very first fight that we had as the Tea Party was New York's 23rd Congressional District. And you had this woman named Didi Skozofava who was recruited to run against an actual grassroots conservative named Doug Hoffman. Doug Hoffman, God love him, he was a total dork. He is a total dork. I don't mean to say that meanly. He's a very smart individual. And Didi Skozofava was— was literally a Democrat up until the moment that she was recruited to run in this congressional district. And we had had enough of it as as conservatives and constitutionalists. So I got involved. I created a website called Dump Didi and we went ham. We went ham and we threatened the establishment. If you're not going to let the conservative grassroot win, we're going to defecate all over this race. And we did. We just destroyed everything. It just was pure chaos. We were the Joker. We were going to watch the world burn as as a way to win one over the establishment, because the biggest fight in that point wasn't against Democrats. It was against the establishment. And I remember I got into a big argument with Newt Gingrich about it. And Gingrich, to his credit, he was the guy who brokered the truce between the Republican Party and the Tea Party. You wouldn't have the House Freedom Caucus, I think, without Gingrich smartly, really with a lot of foresight, getting involved, brokering that truce. He got it. He came around. And we eventually got Trump because of all of those efforts. Now this coalition risks splitting in half because the right still hasn't learned how to manage it. And we're going to get into all of that here as well. Will progressives still key Teslas? That's the biggest thing. I don't know. Will they? Remains to be seen. We got more on that. Hey, folks. So I want to share something important that every American should be aware of. We're seeing a lot of economic uncertainty right now. You have the national debt rising, global trade tensions impacting markets and tariffs with higher prices on the stuff that everybody uses every day. It's not about panic. It's about preparation. So this is why I partnered with Gold Co., the top rated precious metals company, to help you take a step towards protecting your financial future. smart investors look to hard assets like gold and silver to help weather the storm it's a strategy that's been used for generations and right now you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit that breaks it all down for you and if you qualify you could receive unlimited bonus silver real silver matched to your account with no taxes or penalties it's a smart move that could help you feel more secure with what lies ahead visit danalikesgold.com to get started that's danalikesgold.com and move forward with confidence
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So do people still need to worry about their Teslas being keyed or do they have to worry doubly now about the people who are mad at Elon Musk because he argued with Trump? Is it going to be like one of those that meme where they come together and they grab hands and it's like progressives and, you know, like the most hardcore MAGA folks? Because I think most MAGA is like, oh, we hope they get, you know, make up and get along. But there are some out there like, no, cancel him. Cancel him now. Cancel all the contracts. Seize his companies. I just don't know if it's Dudes are different. It's hard for me to say. First off, it's hard for anybody to say who's not in this class of dudes. I mean, we're not frillionaires. I don't have $11 gajillion. Do you? No, I don't. I paid. I mean, even if I did, I'd have to pay most of it in tax. But I don't know if can it be repaired? I don't know if he's ever going to go back to like first buddy status. You know, he was first buddy. And there I I feel like it was kind of Brewing within some of Trump's inner circle. I will say that, you know, this time around, there are fewer leaks. There aren't any leaks and that's good. But I also think that you still have the same competing factions. And I think that people get jealous if they see somebody is getting too close or influential. where it concerns Trump. And so they get in there and they plant those seeds. You know what I mean? And I think some of that was this, because we had, we've talked about it on the program. A lot of the stories about how Elon wouldn't leave and Elon's already always there. He's always there with Trump. I don't know. But so what's going to happen? What's going to happen to Trump's Tesla? I do have some by 10. Peter Doocy was asked about that. He was talking about that a little bit here. Listen,
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on the South Lawn a few months ago to try to help Elon Musk's business while it was being vandalized. We are told that that Tesla, still sitting there, the red Tesla with Florida tags, is either going to be given away or sold off. And we are told that it was about a month that Elon Musk was wearing thin on Trump. So this was not a sudden exit and then blow up. There was about a month that he was wearing thin, the president's word. Something else, there was some...
SPEAKER 11 :
So we kind of saw that happening, but I guess nobody's going to key it. Obviously, they're at the White House. But to me, that kind of also suggests. I don't think it's going to go back to first buddy. If they do mend fences, it is going to be in a more... They're going to have a more traditional association, I think. You disagree. I don't think he can go back to first buddy.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't disagree necessarily, but I think guys handle conflict a little bit differently.
SPEAKER 11 :
Kane is correct. They do handle... But do you go back, though? And you know how Trump is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we all do.
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Trump... I don't know about Musk as much as I know about... Trump. So Democrats are all excited, though. I feel like they think that they're going to get they're going to get Musk. They're so excited. He's not going to go back to you. You stalkers. He's not good. He doesn't like the big spending. Why do Democrats think if if Musk is opposed to the big spending that's in the bill and the big, beautiful bill, he wants a slimmer and more beautiful bill. Then being a Democrat would be like embracing that on steroids. So no, he's not going to go back. If you're switching your ideology just based on spats like that, that's so stupid. And I think this is a spat that just happened to happen very publicly. I don't know how that's going to work, though. The coalition does risk. It does risk splitting. I'm not quite sure. Remember, this is CNN's Chris Eliza. He was talking about how his Tesla had been vandalized at his son's, his kid's soccer game. Soccer match. Watch this.
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A soccer tournament for my son. And we parked my car, which is a Tesla. And we went and watched the game. And when he and I came back, there was something attached to it that was not there. When we had left, it was this. Someone had taped a sign, Musk is a Nazi, to my car. Now, they obviously had pre-written this, or they have a bunch of them, right? But Musk is a Nazi, taped to my car. So, this is the first time I've experienced the sort of politics of Elon Musk. Well, now you don't know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now you don't know. Who could it be? You know? You have no idea. It could be a couple of different factions now. I just don't know if it's going to... If... They're going to go back to the way it was. Part of the problem of this is a lot of this was caused by unrealistic campaign promises. Don't go out and tell people that you're not going to attack Social Security if you're going to attack Social Security. Now, Mike Johnson said yesterday that this bill had already been 14 months in the making. Again, how long is Trump in the White House? OK, so it's the swamps bill. But if this if it's the swamps bill and all of this stuff has kind of been floating in it draft form and and you can just kick on over to these subcommittees or these committees and you can see what's being added and what isn't, then you know that certain things are in it that are going to make it impossible for certain campaign promises to be brought to fruition, particularly immediately. Although for voters, five months seems like a lifetime. When you are overburdened and dealing with inflation, five months seems like a lifetime. When you're a business owner and you're trying to plan in advance, this kind of time seems like a lifetime. So a lot of these unrealistic campaign promises, things like, oh, well, we're not going to, you know, no tax on Social Security, or we're going to make these things permanent. But the taxes aren't permanent in the big, beautiful bill. And that's one of the things that a lot of people have been objecting to. And yes, you're raising the debt ceiling, all of this stuff. I mean, you know, this has been... I think, Musk's criticism from the beginning. But... A lot of it also isn't as much as it is Trump. A lot of it is shared by these congressional Republicans. Because Trump can say one thing and say, I want to do this. Let's get this done. But you've seen the inaction from these congressional Republicans. Are you still a fascist? If you remember Neil Young's new hit song that nobody knows because it's such a hit. Are you a fascist if you still have one? Or has that changed because of opinion? Listen. I'm sorry. I just am not a fan. So are you a fascist if you have a Tesla now? Or has that changed because, oh, wait a minute. Elon got in a fight with someone I don't like. So I guess he's not a fascist anymore. Is it just that situational? What is the resolution, though? How does this the left one with us, not by their own hand, but the left one? This was a spat that they wanted. And everybody, everybody, not all of us, but a lot of people leaned into it, particularly D.C. Republicans. So I'm just. How do you get – you gave the left a victory, and now we're going to be going into midterms? There's a lot of pressure for these two to reconcile, a lot of pressure for them to reconcile. Going into midterms with this, having them fight is going to be a huge anchor on the neck of a lot of people running for office, and you already – We're already concerned with how well Republicans are going to do in the House. I mean, it's razor thin in the House and the Senate. This gets super dangerous here. This is when it gets really, really I get very nervous about the real life implications of this spat, because, you know, when we watched it unfold in real time, you know, it's kind of funny. Ha ha. Oh, my gosh. I can't believe you said that. Oh, my gosh. They're still tweeting at each other. It's a tweet tweet off. Yeah. But what are the real world implications of this? How is this? And it's I don't think it's a psyop cane. Someone said, well, what if it's like a levity D chess? And this is just to get people off of Elon's back. First off, I don't think Trump works that way. And I really don't think Musk does either.
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I had to kind of laugh when I saw this headline. Black Panther's son looks white. I don't know if you guys saw this story. So apparently Marvel has a new Black Panther. per a lot of sources, all the comic reporting sources. And they're saying that the new Marvel Comics, Today's the World to Come, the first one, it features a new Black Panther because T'Challa gets, you know, he's old, right? And everybody's like, that dude looks white. And they now they're I don't know. There's a lot of questions about it. And a lot of people are up in arms. I don't know anything about his like backstory. Like, you know, who is the new Black Panther's mom? Why does he look like, you know, I don't get it. I mean, but people are upset when he took off his mask and he had blonde hair and blue eyes and apparently pale skin. So people are like, well, how was the future king of Wakanda white? It's like mean girls like if you're from Africa, how are you white? Gosh, Karen, you can't just ask that. They think that his identity is going to even be hidden on the cover of the third issue of The World to Come. And that's the upcoming issues of, you know, the Marvel story. So they're saying that the art appears to show T'Challa with shows him with two sons, the original Black Panther with two sons, hinting that the one who beat him in battle was actually mothered by the character T'Challa. who first appeared in the 1970s, Avenger number 77, the Avengers number 77, and was apparently romantically linked with the original Black Panther when he was studying in the United States. So now there's like a lot of challenges over this legacy character who is celebrated for, you know, being a character in black culture. And there's a lot. I was reading a piece. I was actually reading a piece about Wakanda and Afrofuturism came and how that plays into this, you know, Black Panther and Marvel history. Is this going to be a big deal, though? Yeah, is it going to be White Panther? It's Albino Panther. Albino Panther doesn't really have the ring to it, does it? No. That's like saying hairless cat. It's just weird. I don't know.
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Do you get superhero vibes after the mask comes off? um i've seen it's so funny seeing the reaction though because you know how the woke left has been doing weird things by making snow white and you know and midgets and stuff can we say midgets oh man i don't think you can thanks now we're canceled now we're canceled bye guys bye and that's the show gosh you can't do that but they're changing everything that we once knew traditionally i mean i'm ready for a blonde haired blue eyed mulan
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Right. I mean, that's going to happen next. That's going to be the next thing that happens. I just as long as things are faithful to the story. So one showing you simulcast, that's the new that's like the guy that's the new white paper.
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Is this like you're asking?
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I don't know. I I don't I mean, it's because if it is his mom is canon. His mom comes back from his mom's from the 70s. Right.
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Right.
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So there's a lot of people that are a little mad about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
So this is true to the storyline then?
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Yeah, I mean, for the most part, it seems. There's going to be a lot of... Meltdown? Yeah, it's not going to... If he's on the throne of Wakanda, I don't think people are going to react... And I mean, if it's canon, that's one thing. And if it if there's some if it has, you know, if it's integral to the storyline, I get it. But at the same time, I don't like it either way, doing something just because you're trying to seem inclusive. Like if Black Panther is supposed to be like a Black Panther, then don't make him White Panther. Like, you know, let's not. The same way you would not change Mulan. That's like part of their story. Or like Harry Potter, you know, with Snape. Because him being a pale, sickly-looking white dude, that actually plays into kind of the playoff that J.K. Rowling was making about bigotry and all of that stuff. So I don't know. I've got some questions. Of course, this is Disney. Disney ruins everything that they touch. True. I mean, you remember, this is audio somebody 20, their corporate president, Carrie Burke. Remember when they did this like video call and she was talking about having all the alphabet characters in their stories, like even when it was completely unnecessary. Listen.
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I'm here as a mother of two queer children, actually, one transgender child. She's so proud of that. And one pansexual child.
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She talks about it like she has Birkins.
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And that was the thing that really got me because I have heard so much from so many of my colleagues over the course of the last couple of weeks in open forums and through emails and phone conversations and I feel a responsibility to speak, not just for myself, but for them, to all of us. We had an open forum last week at 20th where, again, the home of really incredible, groundbreaking LGBTQIA stories over the years where...
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She talks about her, by the way, she talks about her kids. This is the corporate president, Carrie Burke, the way she's like, well, none of them's pansexual. It's like she's going, I have two Birkins and one is a Himalayan Birkin, which if you don't know that that's like the priciest thing that you can get. And only the super richest people that have super yachts in Monaco can afford to get those things. But she talks about it like they're accessories. And mine, my kid's not just queer. It's a special queer child. Yours is just plain, boring, broke, basic, target, great value queer. Mine's pansexual queer. I mean... How many other words can you put in front of it? But that's the kind of stuff that they focus on. So are you shocked that Disney's deciding to ruin something? I mean, you saw what they did with Star Wars. Now, I don't know. I don't know if it's canon or not. It just seems part of the trend. Let's ruin things. Let's ruin stories. Let's do all of this. Of course, it's not affecting Bob Iger's paycheck. He made $41.1 million in 2024. Now, I don't mind people being rich. I don't mind people being capitalists because if you're a capitalist and you become a multimillionaire, it gives hope for all those other poor bastards out there. It gives everybody some hope, right? Like they can do it too. Although I feel like he's being rewarded unnecessarily because Disney has sucked out loud lately, like for a while lately. not just completely oversaturating everything with Star Wars and ruining it, but also the comic after comic after comic movie, oversaturating that and then ruin a lot of these characters. So does he deserve it? I don't know. I mean, he's still living the fairytale life at Disney. I guess at least somebody is now. Somebody is. I mean, to say nothing of the trans influencer. We did a short on that, about that individual getting misgendered. They like whole trans adult culture at Disney. Check this out real fast.
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Looking cool.
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The bottom is from Thailand.
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Coconut bread from Thailand. Yes, sir. Cool. Oh, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. And the other one is from India. It's a papadum with ginger and chutney.
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And I thought it was from Brazil.
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He's just mad.
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The episode covers the recent Supreme Court decision on reverse discrimination, featuring insights from David Kloss. Discover how this ruling impacts current societal debates over justice and equality. Additionally, the episode highlights the subdued enthusiasm for Pride Month and its implications for corporate America and public sentiment, emphasizing the importance of returning to foundational principles of equality.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Joseph Backholm.
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President Franklin D. Roosevelt, June 6th, 1944, D-Day. Almighty God,
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our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity. Lead them straight and true. Give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith. They will need thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again. And we know that by thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph. Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, thy heroic servants, into thy kingdom.
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Welcome to Washington Watch. I'm Joseph back home sitting for Tony today. And today is the 81st anniversary of D-Day. And that was the prayer that President Roosevelt made on behalf of our nation and our soldiers and the world on that day. And today we remember the steep price that was paid in defense of freedom and in opposition to evil. And we also At the same time, thank God for the victory that was won and all that has meant for us individually and the world since then. And so we do want to recognize that day. And later in the program, we will be talking more about D-Day with Mark Levesque. but also coming up the supreme court says the law can't treat straight people more harshly than people who identify as gay what was that case you heard a little bit about it from the news desk but why in the world is this something we need to say we're going to talk about that lady later coming up in the program in our world view conversation but first our headline for today the ongoing online feud between former doge head elon musk and U.S. President Donald Trump is drawing a lot of attention. What started with Musk's jab at Trump's big beautiful bill eventually evolved into Musk and Trump trading blows over behaviors, policies, government contracts, and Could anyone have seen this coming? And what broader impacts could this feud have on Capitol Hill and beyond? Here to discuss this with me is Ken Blackwell. He was part of the Trump administration's transition team on the domestic policy group in 2016 and in 2024. He's also a senior fellow for human rights and constitutional governance here at Family Research Council. Ken, thanks for joining me today.
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Joseph, it's good to be with you.
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Well, we are going to talk about this Musk-Trump story. But before we do, we have some breaking news that I want to react, get you to react to just in the last hour involving Kilmar Abrego-Garcia. Everyone knows he is kind of a progressive's favorite illegal immigrant. He has been returned to the United States, but it may not be exactly what advocates for Abrego-Garcia believe. had hoped for. Here's part of what Attorney General Pam Bondi had to say just about an hour ago. Let's play clip nine.
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Abrego Garcia has landed in the United States to face justice. On May 21st, a grand jury in the Middle District of Tennessee returned a sealed indictment charging Abrego Garcia with alien smuggling and conspiracy to commit alien smuggling.
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And then she also said this. Let's play clip eight.
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The grand jury found that over the past nine years, Abrego Garcia has played a significant role in an alien smuggling ring. They found this was his full-time job, not a contractor. He was a smuggler of humans and children and women.
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Ken Blackwell, your reaction to all of this?
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I'm so delighted, Joseph, that Garcia is coming to stand in the dock before the American people. He's a bad guy. And I think the American people need to feel the full embrace of justice being brought to him for the horrible crimes that he has has committed.
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Now, it is an incredible kind of turning of the tables, it seems, because he's been presented to the public as a victim of injustice. And now, based on these charges, he has been a perpetrator of injustice for a very long time. We will see which narrative ends up prevailing. We will certainly... keep you informed of the developments as they happen. But Ken, I want to turn to the story we intended to cover in this block. And everyone is kind of aware of the online feud, and it's mostly online right now, it seems, between President Trump and Elon Musk. How do you think we should be thinking about this?
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i think the two principles here need to understand and need perhaps to adopt uh that uh that strategy of uh because they have a mutual capability of destroying the forward movement of this country in terms of our national security in terms of dealing with the enormous debt that we have and dealing with the challenge of getting us back on the path of growth and opportunity. And so this back and forth between the President of the United States and a very smart, very affluent, now adversary, but just a few weeks ago, an ally, has to be brought to an end. The President is the President of the United States. He is the head of our Constitutional Republic, and he has an enormous challenge. He has to keep the herd moving west. And in order to do that, he has to work through not only with the House and the Senate, he needs to do it within the framework of our Constitution. That's a little bit more difficult than the deep dive that Elon has done along with his team and come up with a prescription for a comprehensive fix that just might not be doable this time around. But I think the big beautiful bill, while again, lacking in some aspects, it's probably the best that we can do to make sure that we keep the trifecta.
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that's necessary to keep us on a path of progress now you kind of described well the policy debate that's happening on the surface is the big beautiful bill good is the big beautiful bill an abomination as elon musk has referred to it do you think this conflict really is ultimately policy-based or is this personal on ways that on levels that we perhaps haven't seen yet
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Well, it's gone sideways and it's destructive and it's personal and we need folks to go to their mutual corners. But I'm not confused and the American people are not confused. Donald Trump stood for the presidency. He got a clear majority of the voters to say he was the one that they wanted to lead the nation. He now has to work within the framework of the Constitution. And that means that he has to be able to work with a House that has a slim majority and a Senate that has not always behaved and voted as a coherent force.
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Well, there is a lot of curiosity about the impact that this will have or will not have on the big, beautiful bill. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson was asked this question. Here's what he had to say.
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This is not a problem for getting the bill done. The House and Senate Republicans here know that we have a job to do and we're going to do our job. And we produced a very, very good product. It is not perfect because there's no such thing as perfect legislation. But we're really proud of this.
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Ken, do you think that is an accurate description of the impact that this feud will not have, according to the speaker on the bill?
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Well, I think there's an ounce of hope in that. He understands that this head-butting by these two powerful personalities can keep us off of what I consider to be a positive track forward and make the Speaker and the Senate leaders' jobs much more difficult. But again, I have confidence that in the final analysis, the two principles that we're discussing here will come to a daytime and make sure that this bill, while not perfect, gets passed. Sometimes you make the good the enemy of the best or vice versa, and we just can't make that happen this time around. We need to put the tourniquet on and while it doesn't completely stop the spending bleeding, it puts us on a track, I think, where we can complete the job over the next three and a half years.
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Do you agree with the analysis that we've heard from many that this is the best we can realistically do under the current political circumstances?
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Well, I have a lot of faith in the Speaker. I would imagine that something's going to be sent back to the House that is slightly different from what they sent over to the Senate. But I have full confidence that working with the President's team in the White House, he and Leader Thune can get this done. Again, the The worst narrative would be that this thing collapses and we all have eggs on our face and that just wouldn't be good for us. But more importantly, it wouldn't be good for the American people.
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Now, there seems to be a consensus that we're spending too much money. Nobody says, oh, we're not spending enough, right? Regardless of where you are in this bill, everybody seems to agree we should be spending less. The disagreement seems to be about when we can or if we can. And what the political implications of that are, is it possible? And the analogy that comes to mind is like, If we as parents had our children vote for whether we could be parents, we would be much more deferential to our children. Are we dealing with a situation where politicians are afraid to tell the truth and look out for the long term best interest of the American people because the American people don't really want that? We want what we want and we want it now.
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Well, look, let me tell you, one of the blessings of the United States of America is that our form of government is decentralized and it brings decision making back to the most basic level, ultimately to the national government, but starting out with the family as the basic unit of governance, working through cities, states, counties, et cetera. In the final analysis, a downside of our system is that it is decentralized and it makes for conflicting interests. But again, I think we know what the penalty would be if we fail. And I believe in the final analysis, we're going to get this done.
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Well, we hope and pray that you are correct. Ken, thank you so much for taking some time with us today.
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Good to be with you, Joseph. God bless.
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Up next, we will honor the 81st anniversary of D-Day by reflecting on the daring military move and the modern state of the American military. I will be speaking with Dr. Mark Levecky, a scholar and expert on war and ethics. We'll do it all when we come back. Stay with us right here on Washington Watch.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Joseph Backholm sitting in for Tony on this Friday evening. Today, June 6th, marks the 81st anniversary commemorating the soldiers who gave their lives to defend freedom in the D-Day invasion. marks an important reminder of how some landmark victories are achieved through great risk and sacrifice. President Trump issued a statement today alluding, quote, the warfighters whose indescribable valor, fierce determination, and unwavering patriotism delivered this pivotal victory for the global cause of freedom. Now, does that sort of heroism still exist? Does it hold the same moral weight today? Here with me to reflect on this important day and the effect it's had is Dr. Mark Levecky. He's a McDonald Distinguished Scholar of Ethics, War, and Public Life at Providence Institute of Religion and Democracy. He's also an author of the book, The Good Kill, Just War and Moral Injury, and a forthcoming book, Moral Horror, a Just War Defense of the Bombing of Hiroshima. which I'm sure will not be controversial at all. Dr. Levecky, welcome back to Washington Watch.
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It's great to be here. Thanks for having me back. Not controversial at all.
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I'm sure it will not be. And we're going to actually wait on that conversation for a moment. But I would like just your thoughts about why D-Day is still important for us to remember and reflect upon.
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Yeah, absolutely. If I can riff on then-President Roosevelt's prayer to the nation as he alerted the nation of the forcible entry into Europe then underway, he said the following. He said, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor to preserve our republic, our religion, our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity. And I think in those lines we see encapsulated everything that is important about D-Day. It reminded us, if we needed the reminder, that freedom, liberty, life, human flourishing, the good, the true, and the beautiful are things that need to be fought for. And so we needed men that were capable of fighting for them. And D-Day represented that fact. And it behooves us to remember that.
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Well, at the risk of insulting some members of our audience, we keep seeing some of these polls that say people don't even know who fought in the Civil War, right? So if you would, provide some context and set the scene for us. What was happening? Why was D-Day so important in our nation's history and, frankly, the world's history?
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Yeah, for sure. I don't know how far back I have to go, but I will remind everyone that World War II was one of the perhaps somewhat rare instantiations in which the line separating good from evil was crystal clear. America and her allies were fighting against Hitler's Nazi Germany, and then over in the Asia Pacific, fighting against militant Japan, Japanese militarism. But D-Day itself was... was the first real opportunity that the Allies had to open up a second front. The Soviet Union was busy fighting the Nazis in the East. Britain and the Allies had already been pushed out of Europe at the very beginning of the war. And this was the opportunity for Britain, for France, for the United States, for Canada to enter into Europe. And our orders were clear. General Marshall told General Eisenhower the following. He said to cross the Channel, to enter the heartland of Germany, and to liberate Europe. And so this was an opportunity for us to do that. It was Britain's triumphal reentry into Europe after having been pushed out. And it was the first opportunity we had to open up that vital second front to relieve some of the tension from the fight in the east and really to begin the end of the war in Europe.
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Now, we remember this day in ways that we don't necessarily honor every other battle and every other victory in World War II. It feels more significant to us. At the time, did they see this as a pivotal turning point moment in World War II?
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I would say yes. Obviously, it's easier for us because we have the benefit of hindsight where we know everything ultimately went well. We won. In the day, the contingency of war was still you know, alive. Things were not yet settled. There was no guarantee that even crossing the Channel would work. Contingency was everywhere. Sort of famously, for those who enjoy the historic weeds of the occasion, Eisenhower, who was the commanding general at the time, had to make a decision on June 5th yesterday as to whether or not we would in fact embark across the channel. They had been dealing with horrendous weather. On June 4th, he was told that the weather on June 6th would look good. There would be a temporary but significant break in the bad weather, and this was a good opportunity to go. It wasn't just a question of weather. You also had to have good lunar conditions. And on June 6th, there was the possibility that these things would come together. But it wasn't a sure thing. And he got a consensus of the Allied command, and there was no consensus. So he went to bed the night between the 4th and the 5th, trying to decide whether or not to push off on the 6th. After a fitful couple hours, he decided to go. And so he reconvened the Allied command, and he, in his memoir, says he deliberated for about a minute, and then he stood up and he said, let's go. And within two seconds, the room cleared, and the final preparations for D-Day were underway. So I think they knew it was significant, but it was no certain thing. He visited the troops as they departed, most famously the airborne divisions of the 82nd and the 101st Airborne, And their casualty predictions were as high as 75%. They did not know whether they could pull the thing off. This was by far the largest amphibious assault ever conducted in history. And contingency was everywhere.
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How innovative was it for the time?
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Yeah, that's a great question. I'm not a technical expert, but I think there was innovation all over the place. The landing craft were constantly being honed, the airborne assaults, new tactics, new strategies. Some didn't go off so well. I think famously, there was the glider division incredibly brave souls who tried to land behind enemy lines in wooden gliders. Those didn't really work quite so well, but innovation was everywhere. I think it was a technological wonder.
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I'm going to jump in right there, and I think we can hold you over, if you can, to the next, over the break, because I'd love to continue this conversation as we remember D-Day here on Washington Watch. Stay with us. We'll be right back with more.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Joseph Backholm sitting in for Tony, and we are continuing our conversation with Dr. Mark Levicki on the 81st anniversary of D-Day, why it's an important day in history, why it's important for us to continue to remember Dr. Levicki. Thanks for hanging with us.
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Pleasure.
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Now, I want to dive a little deeper into something that you touched on about the likelihood of success, because in my you know, the first kind of war moment I remember in my life was when we invaded Iraq and took over Baghdad and we overthrew Saddam Hussein. There was a lot of media coverage. We could kind of watch this as Americans. It was interesting, but we felt no stress, right? There was like, we know the outcome of this. This is not a fair fight. We're going to do whatever we want to do. How were people feeling? And I know that there was not like advanced notice of D-Day, right? The American public didn't know about this, but even within the leadership and then when Americans learned it was happening, I mean, compare it to that moment. What was the likelihood of success or to what degree were they like, we hope this works, but we just don't know?
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I think throughout the day itself, it was a near thing. There were certain points on certain beaches, right? I mean, we've got to remember that this was an endeavor that spanned, you know, 156,000 troops trying to forcibly enter Europe from the sea, 7,000 ships, 11,000 support and attack aircraft over a 50-mile beach. right, the numbers are staggering. And all throughout that day, periodically, it looked as if the thing would not come off and that we would be pushed off certain beaches and have to go back, attempt to go back to the ships. But we pressed forward, you know, Theodore Roosevelt Jr., the son of President Roosevelt, was in command of the attack on Utah Beach. They were, because of strong currents, thrown fairly dramatically off course. And he famously sort of said, well, our war begins here. and they were well away from where they were supposed to be, but they innovated, they adapted, they overcame, they went back to the place they were supposed to have started from, and they continued their war. And so it was always a near thing, but it was the strength of the Allied cause, it was their moral resolve, and it was their ability to innovate under duress in very time-compressed scenarios that won the day.
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Now, Mark, that is a great description of kind of the big picture. But let's talk about the individual soldiers, because, you know, a war is fought by people, individuals with their own lives and stories and concerns. And we always we've seen those images of the boats and the door opens and everybody just storms out the front into gunfire. Some of them never even got back above the water, like terrible stories of what happens afterwards. What motivates a soldier in that circumstance to go forward when they're commanded to despite the situation?
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Yeah, it's a great question. It's an important question. It's one that I can't answer directly, right? I have friends who have fought. I have never been shot at in combat. But I think there are multiple answers to it. There are the ideals and the ideas that motivate someone to join the military in the first place. World War II, maybe many of the military were already in, but there were an awful lot of post-Pearl Harbor volunteers. Many of them will simply say they were angry. Their nation had been attacked. Friends overseas were under duress, and they wanted to fight back. But then when you get into combat itself, you know, these high ideals of liberty and all sorts of other things begin to fall away a little bit. They're probably in the back of the mind. But it comes down to it in the moment, as I understand it, you simply want to protect the men to your left and to your right. And nowadays, you know, the men or the women to your left or to your right, you simply want to keep them safe. And so, you know, there is the mission and the mission is before them, but it's also just protecting their friends and a desire to get back home. You know, the high ideals are always on their mind, I'm sure. But I think in the moment, it comes down to the very basic things. You want to be safe, you want to keep your friends safe.
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Part of the reason we try to understand history is because we want it to inform how we live today and the things that we do. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth made a statement today, and he was part of that. Let's play clip seven.
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Because we strive for peace, we must prepare for war. and hopefully deter it. Because history is not over. Evil has not been eradicated from the globe. Good men are still needed to stand up.
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Is that true, Mark?
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100%.
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That is 100% true. There are some fights that need to be fought. Most, I'll say it this way, most American soldiers are not looking for a fight. Given their preference, they would rather live in peace. But they recognize that the choice is not always up to us. Our adversaries have a choice. They have a vote. And the just warrior is always only responding to evils that are already in place. We're not inaugurating fights. We're not starting new violence. We're responding to injustices that are already happening. If a fight needs to be fought, then we need the ability to fight it, both as individuals, but also as a nation. And so I think a nation has an obligation, comes out of the dominion mandate, to cultivate that kind of power that is necessary to protect the innocent, to take back things that have been wrongly taken, and to punish sufficiently grave evil. And America in that day, on D-Day, demonstrated that when the call came, we answered it and we were not found wanting. Our boys then performed magnificently. And I think this generation of warfighters that we've seen coming out of the global war on terror have performed magnificently. And those are lessons that must never be forgotten.
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Dr. Mark Levecky, thank you so much for your time. Pleasure. Stay tuned for our biblical worldview segment with my colleague, David Clausen. We'll be right back with Mark.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Joseph Backholm, sitting in for Tony and with you today. Now, before I go to my next conversation, I want to encourage you to take advantage of Family Research Council's $1.5 million challenge match to defend families. When you give before June 30th, you'll have twice the impact. So while LGBTQ activists are still pushing Pride Month, join Family Research Council in defending God's design for the family on the front lines of public policy in DC and across America. To join us, please text the word FAMILY to 67742. That's text the word FAMILY to 67742. And thank you so much for your support. While it's been another whirlwind week of headlines, yesterday, our nation's highest court issued a perhaps surprising decision authored by Associate Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson regarding a case of so-called, and in reality, reverse discrimination. It came out of Ohio and was brought by a straight white woman who claimed she was demoted and passed over for promotion because she was heterosexual or is heterosexual. We'll discuss this case and more in our weekly worldview discussion with David Kloss, and he's the director of the Center for Biblical Worldview at FRC. He's also the author of a new book, Life After Roe, equipping Christians in the fight for life today. David, thank you for joining me.
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Hey, great to be with you again, Joseph. Happy Friday.
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Well, happy Friday to you. This is a really interesting case to me that I want to kind of get beyond the legal arguments because those are real and interesting. But I think there's something beneath that that we need to kind of pull out. This woman, Marlene Ames. A heterosexual woman claims in her case before the Supreme Court that while she was working for the Ohio Department of Youth Services, she was passed over for promotion. Now, here's the interesting part. The Ohio Department of Youth Services did not say, no, we didn't discriminate against you. They said... that because you are a white heterosexual woman, you have a higher burden of proof in proving that you were discriminated against. You have not reached that burden of proof. Therefore, we are not liable for anything. Now, the Supreme Court came back and said, actually, everybody has the same burden of proof in a discrimination case. Why did this argument even have to be made?
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Yeah, Joseph, such a good question. And I think, yeah, the specifics of this are really interesting. And it's important to note this was unanimous. Katanji Brown Jackson is obviously the most recent addition to the court appointed by Joe Biden. And she wrote the majority opinion. And, you know, over years, this legal concept is known as background circumstances test, which is kind of a higher level of burden than, that folks from majority groups, so I think white, straight, male, need to prove in these discrimination cases. And I think, you know, again, I'm no legal scholar, but, you know, these kind of concepts and ideas don't develop in a vacuum. And clearly over the last couple decades where you have the rise of, I think, critical theory, things like intersectionality, You're going to have concepts and ideologies and legal frameworks begin to develop kind of that flow from the logic of even those ideologies. Now, as Christians, you know, I think we should be excited with the Supreme Court decided because as Christian, this ruling basically affirms kind of what I would call just the principle of equal justice. You know, as Christians, we believe all people are made in God's image. We're equally valuable. James 2 is another text, Joseph, that talks about how God hates partiality. And so I think this is a good legal decision, and it's one that Christians, for theological reasons, can also affirm.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it's important to highlight the ways in which good intentions actually result in unjust outcomes. The Supreme Court has spoken to similar issues recently where they've said you cannot prefer people of certain races over people of other races in your admissions practices to institutions of higher learning. And that has been done racially. And this is another example of where they've made a similar determination, where it doesn't matter if you're white or black or you identify as heterosexual or you identify as homosexual, equal treatment under the law requires that the legal standard be the same for people who find themselves in similar legal situations. Now, why on earth would anybody disagree with that? Because, and you mentioned it, but I think it's worth kind of describing, the critical theory mood that our country has been in, which says, well, if you are one of the oppressors, you should be disfavored. If you are one of the oppressed, you should be favored. And the way people seek to remedy what they perceive to be as injustice is to give preferential treatment to people in one group and disfavored treatment to people in another group. And I think that's where this is coming from. Oh, well, you're heterosexual, you're in power, you're the hegemony. If you want to prove discrimination, you have to work harder to do so. And as a result of this, I think it's good intentions results in unjust treatment where we, as a result, end up throwing out this standard of equal treatment under the law, which is supposed to be a bedrock American principle.
SPEAKER 03 :
Joseph, I agree with you. I think this ideology of critical theory, I think probably the most pernicious way that this has reared its head in our modern political discourse in the last year, year and a half, is actually what's happening over in Israel, where you will actually have Americans who will say, well, you know, looking at the situation between Hamas, which is a terrorist group, versus Israel, kind of the only stable democracy in the Middle East, well, there'll be those who sympathize with the Hamas terrorists because they will use the language, well, settlers don't have rights. And, you know, this is this privileging of minority groups just because the sake that they're part of a minority class. Again, this is pernicious. This is evil. Christians are the folks who should be on the front lines saying this doesn't cohere with a biblical conception of actual justice.
SPEAKER 08 :
And let's remember the worldview foundations of this idea of equal treatment under the law, because that hasn't always been how it's been, right? That was actually a Christian idea that was injected into a world that believed the rich and the powerful are better because they are rich and powerful, and innately they have more rights and more opportunities. And it was the biblical christian idea that we are all created in the image of god which injected into that environment this idea that it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor or in biblical terms male or female jew or greek slave or free everyone because we're created in the image of god has equal value before god therefore it is incumbent upon governments to recognize equal value before god And that works when our identity is rooted in the imago Dei that is inside of each of us. What critical theory seeks to do is root our identity in who we're attracted to, what our race is, how much money we've made, and therefore treat people differently in those circumstances. And as we see in this case, that results in people doing what should be kind of absurd by saying, oh, well, you're straight. friend who identifies as gay has.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. And we use the phrase all the time, ideas have consequences and underlying worldviews, underlying ideologies have significant consequences. And so this case is kind of an illustration in the legal arena, the legal realm of of, again, kind of the manifestation of what bad ideas can do. And I think, you know, because again, as Christians, we should be excited about this. And I do think, and we'll maybe talk about this later, Joseph, you know, we're in a cultural kind of almost resetting right now, where there does seem to be a return to kind of some of these creation order principles. And I think that's something we should be welcoming, especially as Christians.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that is something I want to get into next in our next topic here, because we, of course, know we are living in the holy month of pride, according to the priests of the sexual revolution, right? And we, of course, were, you know, is it the family month? Is it fidelity month? Anything but celebrating one of the deadly sins, right? And so any alternative is going to be better than actual pride. Something that a lot of people pointed out is the fact that the enthusiasm for Pride this year seems to be down. Do you agree with that? And if so, what do you attribute that to?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Joseph, I actually agree with it. And I'm here in Washington, D.C., which I'm told, you know, this week or next week, there's going to be this World Pride event. But I would even say here in our nation's capital, it is more muted than it has been in years past. And I think there's several reasons for this. Just think about the backlash to groups and corporations. Think Bud Light, their whole debacle with Dylan Mulvaney back in 2023. They lost $359 million because they partnered with this transgender activist to try to promote light beer. That debacle actually, for two decades, Bud Light had been the number one selling beer in America. And I take that on faith. I'm a Baptist. I have no idea personally, but I'm just told that, you know, it was knocked off as being the number one selling bear in America simply because they kind of got in bed with the sexual revolution and thought this was a good idea with marketing. Think of Target. They lost 35 percent. Their stock did a value over one summer because of their pride collection, Joseph. And so I do think the Probably one of the main causes is that the sexual revolution has overplayed its hand. Think of things like course pronoun usage, biological men being allowed to participate in female sports. Think of the medical interventions being pushed on minor children who are confused by their gender. And so I think kind of the T in LGBT has really overplayed the hand. You see this even last, two weeks ago, Gallup came out with a poll and showed Republican support for same-sex marriage is down 14 points from just three years ago. And so I think all of that is kind of part of, again, like I say, this return to kind of creation order morality, because we've done this for a couple of years and a lot of people are seeing this really doesn't work.
SPEAKER 08 :
There's a couple parts of that that I want to discuss with you, David, because one is what's the American people doing? And you cite kind of the polling from Gallup saying that support for same-sex marriage is down 14 points in the last three years among Republicans. But we also have seen corporate America kind of move away, indications of that. I know that Seattle Pride, right, or, you know, Seattle, can you get any more progressive than that? Their budget for Seattle Pride had declined significantly. 30%, I believe, was the number because of a decline in corporate sponsorship even there. Do you think that we're seeing a situation where corporate America, and a lot of them have not rebranded their logos this holy month of pride when they had in the past? And that's kind of a small but significant indicator. that perhaps they were never really in it for the cause, but they were in it for the money. And now that Target and Bud Light have told them, hey, the money may not be all you thought it was or hoped it was going to be. Maybe you should stay away. And so it turns out perhaps corporate America was just chasing the dollar anyway.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, absolutely, Joseph. I think corporate America thought this was kind of the direction that the broader culture was moving in, first on same-sex marriage, then on issues related to transgenderism. I think there was a lot of bullying that took place. Think about, you know, the Human Rights Campaign and their aggressive marketing plan that each year they would publish kind of the organizations and corporations that got their 100% backing for taking moves that they saw as LGBT affirming. And you know what I think a lot of corporations realize? It was never enough. No matter what they did, kind of the activist community always wanted to move the goalpost. And I think even with the election of Donald Trump last year, that sent a kind of a signal to a lot of these corporations, big business, that a lot of Americans feel tired of kind of this woke ideology, these different ideas, critical theory. I think a lot of CEOs realize this is actually simply not in the best interest of our shareholders. And then they've stepped back. And so I do think there was probably political reasons they felt bullied into it over the last 10 years. And so this is a welcome reprieve from that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, David, there's another potential explanation for why there could be kind of a decline in enthusiasm for Pride Month. And that is that it's just the new norm now. And are you at all concerned that Pride Month has kind of made its impact? Because we talked about the decline in support amongst Republicans, but same-sex marriage still polls very favorably across the public. And for so many people, like, what the sexual revolution has done is so normal that maybe it's not even controversial and they don't feel the need to be a crusader for something that has been normalized. While I do think there's, especially on the trans issues, a growing awareness of the You talk about boys on the podium at girls track meets and cartoon porn in schools and drag queens twerking in front of small children. All of this stuff that a lot of us look at and say that's terrible. And I think there's general recognition of that. Has the damage already been done culturally?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think at some place, yes, a lot of this has been normalized. But Joseph, I would argue that the further you abstract from God's created order, the more aberrations you introduce into culture. One, as Christians, we believe Romans 1, you're inviting God's judgment. And that's something that we should be nervous about, of course. For those of us who love our neighbors, we love folks in our communities. But yeah, I think that's a fair point. I would probably concede that, that for many people, especially the younger generations, this is normalized. You know, college students today, they don't know a day, Joseph, when same-sex marriage wasn't the law of the land. The Obergefell decision was handed down 2015. That was 10 years ago. A college student today was 10 years old when that happened. And so a lot of that has happened, which is why I argue those with teaching, preaching, discipleship opportunities, we can't take it for granted that people in our churches actually know what a biblical sexual ethic is, all the more reason to kind of recommit in our teaching and our preaching on what God's Word actually teaches on these fundamental issues.
SPEAKER 08 :
David, how can churches do that? How can people who care, who see what's happening and want to do something about it be part of the solution?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and that's one of the reasons the Center for Biblical Worldview exists. You can go to frc.org slash worldview, and we have a whole host of resources. If you have preaching, teaching, discipleship opportunities, we have resources on marriage, sexuality, religious liberty, political engagement, abortion, and the value of life. So I'd encourage folks to go to frc.org slash worldview, and Lord willing, those resources can serve you and your ministry.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they do, and they will. And we're not quite halfway through the month. There's going to be a lot more coming. And I would just commend people to the resources that you have put together, that we collectively have put together there at frc.org slash worldview. It will encourage you, but it will also equip you to understand what's going on this month, because we really do not wrestle against flesh and blood. David Claussen, thank you so much for your time. Thank you. And friends, we thank you for being with us. We'll be back with you on Monday here on Washington Watch.
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Join us as we dissect the latest in the ongoing feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. With behind-the-scenes perspectives and media reactions, we cover the implications of this clash of titans on American politics, media narratives, and global political relations. From fake news to public statements, we explore the explosive dynamics and what they reveal about the intersection of business, politics, and technology in today's fast-paced world.
SPEAKER 05 :
On today's show, we've got an update on the battle of the billionaires, Elon Musk versus President Donald Trump.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Secular.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it happened. Inevitably, we kind of knew this was coming. That's right. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. They lost that loving feeling. President Trump and Elon Musk decided to go head-to-head after rumors of a fallout. TMZ style, People Magazine style. Are they or aren't they? And now we have heard... that the white house currently right now is saying that uh elon musk would like to speak to president trump and currently president trump is saying not that interested in talking to you right now after if you really look you look you have to be a little bit discerning because even will sent me some fake news thanks well uh i was just sending you funny memes i can't help that you the problem is you don't know what's real that's fair you don't know what's real when elon musk who, again, I think is a brilliant person and an absolutely amazing person in terms of the technological achievements that he has made, what he has actually done for our lives in terms of all the different systems that he has done. So I'm not taking any of that away from him. And then you have President Trump, who, again, President of the United States. But clearly, I've actually been saying this for weeks as the conversation of Elon Musk leaving. started to bubble up, which is once you actually get into the swamp, if you will, in Washington, D.C., it doesn't run like a business where you say something, work gets done, things get changed, and then you do have a moment, like the big, beautiful bill, which kind of goes against a lot of what Elon thought he was there for. Now, however, did it need to be aired out in public? That is what Elon does. And he did it in a way that was maybe a bit aggressive, a bit rude, started making claims, started talking about the Epstein list, started talking about impeaching the president and having JD Vance replace him. All of this while JD Vance was was in town here in Nashville. He's clearly staying out of it. He's like not interested in, in fighting. But again, you have those, uh, two kinds of minds and those kinds of egos and those kinds of billionaires, if you will, in the same room for so long. Uh, I understand that inevitably this was probably going to blow up, but this has blown up on a big scale. Cause yesterday when we had this show starting, we said, Oh, he's like, we had a great relationship. Maybe he doesn't like me anymore. I don't know. And it felt like within a few hours, uh, It was very clear where you had Kanye, yay, saying, please, guys, quit fighting.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. The voice of reason in the room was not the most reasonable person on the planet. That did kind of take a turn. But we'll get into this in the next segment as well, because last night Politico was reporting that there would be a phone call between President Trump and Elon Musk. Susie Wiles this morning said that that wasn't true, as well as President Trump said that to dana bash on cnn and we can play that bite in the next segment uh what kind of what he thinks is going on right now and and that he's not even thinking about this anymore he's moving on kind of with the business you know i want to say this too everyone has to remember what you're dealing with in washington dc and why i have been sort of a uh i have to be there we have to work there we have to our office is there got a
SPEAKER 05 :
Because this is what happens. And remember, President Trump, who again, we have supported a lot of the things he has done. I think we can all debate on the big, beautiful bill. There are certainly elements in it that are very good. And there are certainly elements in there that I think maybe go too far or maybe a bit wasteful. You can discuss that. You can have that conversation. That's okay. But also remember, he took a call this morning from CNN. from Dana Bash, and they had a very cordial, interesting conversation. So don't get caught up too much in the theatrics, because know behind the scenes that this is what's happening. He's still taking a call from CNN. You can go on and yell about fake news. You can go on about that. But remember, he had dinner with Joe and Mika. This is all part of the political system. As much as I don't want it to be, you gotta remember. You gotta look through the evidence. And I'm not saying that the Elon Trump battle is phony. I don't think it is. But... Honestly, for the betterment of the country, I do hope this is something they can settle down because there are actual real news, big news that is coming out of areas. President Trump has now said he will be making his way to China, but that is being overshadowed by this battle of the billionaires. We're going to hear from you guys very soon. Welcome back to Seculo. I do want to take your calls on this. I want to know how you feel because, look, this is someone who President Trump has had out there on not only the campaign trail, but in the White House for his term right now with Elon Musk, richest man in the world. This is not a dumb guy. This isn't somebody who you can just laugh off. Now, however, does he say some ridiculous things? Is he very socially media active because he owns X and he can say what he wants on his own platform and that gets picked up? sure president trump also went after and said no one wanted your electric car and started kind of slamming him there now i will say elon took it up a notch uh you can go after somebody's business okay he started saying uh essentially equivalating him to being on the jeffrey epstein list and what that could look like and calling for his impeachment it escalated very quickly now President Trump spoke this morning to CNN, to Dana Bash, and we have a bite we're going to play for you. This is her discussing what they said and what that conversation looked like.
SPEAKER 03 :
He said that he, quote, well, here's exactly what he said, quote, I'm not even thinking about Elon. He's got a problem. The poor guy's got a problem. He said he won't be speaking to him for a while, but he said he wishes Elon Musk well. It was a short conversation. He didn't seem very exercised about it. And the interesting thing is, of course, the context of this is, how many people who are in both men's orbits are trying to broker a peace deal, so to speak, and trying to get them to talk because of the concern about the fallout in so many directions. I mean, the blast radius from this fallout is really, really big and very wide.
SPEAKER 05 :
don't think i heard that last part till right now the blast radius is going to be so wide from this uh you know and fall out okay these are two billionaires fighting publicly What could even the fallout be? He's the president of the United States and he's the richest man in the world. I'm sorry. My sympathy runs a little thin. I don't think I, and for me to try to be like, I'm not even thinking about Elon. Okay. But now he's saying he's very disappointed. He thinks he's unwell. Look, this is a guy who has been very public about some of his issues and some of the social awkwardness maybe he has and is on the autism spectrum. We know this. It's not like I'm not, I'm not, disparaging the guy this is he talks about it very openly and I look I'm very proud to say that he is who he is in that sense because it's an amazing inspiration for for kids to see someone that can go from that become the richest man in the world and can really change the world and I believe he has from Starlink to SpaceX to Tesla to, I mean, you should go back to PayPal and eBay and all of the things that he has touched over the last 30 years. Really impressive, impressive guy. And it was really great to have someone, to be honest, like him, you'd say on the conservative side. He called for a start of a new political party. We even know, even if you're the richest man in the world, It's just about the hardest thing that I think anyone has ever tried. Every time they flirt with a third party, unfortunately it falls apart because the machine, just like he probably learned the machine in Washington, DC, uh,
SPEAKER 04 :
Has very few winners. Well, and here's another way also to look at this is it's kind of when you have the richest man in the world that's able to, you know, buy a company on a whim to make it a free speech platform or send rockets into space. What is one of the most frustrating things probably in the world? The bureaucracy and Congress. Everything that is about the way that DC works today is what would frustrate someone who is able to achieve that greatness. And when his goal was to come in and eliminate waste and try to balance the deficits and try to tackle the debt issue that the United States have, we really... can understand a little bit why that frustration could bubble over when something like the big, beautiful bill seems at odds with what he had been working for. Now, the other part of that is that when you are in business and you have the luxury of being able to, uh, fire people at will get rid of departments. If you need to, you can do those things because there isn't the, the checks that are on the government, the, the entire, uh, reason a big beautiful bill is happening is because it has to be done through reconciliation because our system is so broken you can't get a straight bill through the senate because of the filibuster reconciliation you have to take a large swath of things and you have to kind of replace things within the existing system you can't make big changes because that would require 60 votes So in order to make big changes like tax cuts, you have to also find ways to maneuver the numbers so that it comes out at net zero effectively so that it can pass through the budget reconciliation process. isn't the best way for this country to operate. That is the reality of the very partisan environment we're in. And I can also see how that would frustrate someone very much like it frustrates me, like it frustrates Elon Musk. But what we also see is when you are a billionaire, both the president and the richest billionaire in the world, you don't get to that level without a very strong self-confidence and ego. And when you feel challenged, that's why people were trying to almost seed this happening in the, in the Democrat media for a long time of like, there's going to be a big blow up. They're hanging out out too much. It kind of was a little inevitable. There'd be a falling out. Now. I don't think anyone thought it would look like this, nor would they want it to look like this. And I don't think it's necessarily great because of some of the things that, like you mentioned that yesterday during the call with president G and president Trump, uh, They agreed to have a meeting in China and the talks continue. Jordan texted us and said, in France, where he is, that's all anyone's talking about because of the global ramifications. Here in the United States, people were saying, hey, if you've got some bad story you want to get out, drop it now because no one will care.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, because everyone is paying attention to this, you know, fight online between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two best friends who had a falling out. Look, we've all been there at some point. It's never fun. But you know what? Maybe we can air it out in public. Look, maybe there's things we can look at like, hey, President Trump, maybe let's not call it the Big Beautiful Bill. I get the joke. I get it's the Build Back Better, the BBB and all that. But you know what? Take things more seriously. Show us that you're being serious with this. And if it becomes, you can have a clever name. A lot of times they have clever names. But when it becomes a little too far in the comedic sense, maybe we have an issue. This is coming from me. who is typically one, I'm not usually one fighting against having comedy. Little jokes here and there. But if you're talking about a massive spending bill for a specific reason, maybe making it that silly in name is not going to make the base too thrilled. Now, do I think this sends people falling apart? No, I think most people who supported President Trump will probably continue to support President Trump over Elon Musk. I don't know if that's true, but it feels that way. Maybe you have some of those moderates that were in the middle that he won over. And I think Elon did a terrific job of bringing over a lot of people who were not. I think I could say that about Elon, about Tulsi, about RFK. These are a group of outsiders to the Republican Party that I do think brought a lot of votes. Let's go, though, to Justin in California, who's online, too. Justin, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I mean, yeah, I commend Elon's work and contributions to the government, especially with Doge, and uncovering just vast waste and fraud and abuse. I also think, and I understand your point of view, and I think it's unreasonable. I can see it from Elon's point of view, but I think it's unreasonable for the government and for President Trump to not put forth a bill that
SPEAKER 05 :
has the government spending money um it's kind of inevitable i mean it's not like and again maybe that's sort of the naivete that maybe was coming from uh a new group of people that were going to come into washington dc and change things up and i think that's what we see the government's obviously going to keep spending money we know this because you know what they don't want their money cut uh they don't want funding to be cut because they're looking out for their interest as well
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and as well, the reconciliation process isn't an appropriations bill. This is kind of what sets up the spending in the major, the mandatory spending and things of that nature. And so in reality... A budget reconciliation bill is always going to be very large. But the difference is that the Trump administration is trying to show that we are still working on promises through this because, as Justin said, you're going to have to pass bills that are spending bills. And really, they're not going to be great ever until we can fix the brokenness of wanting to rein in between both parties, government waste, fraud, and abuse. But I mean, it does deliver trillions of dollars in savings. It does have resets levels of things that were way too expensive, makes tax cuts permanent in ways like there are in the border. It gives money to the border. Like there are a lot of campaign promises in the bill that also do cost money. So you in order to do this process, have to pull from somewhere and put here and able to actually get something passed because the Democrats are never going to let anything get passed.
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I want to keep taking your phone calls. I want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. Look, if you like this show, by the way, two great ways, absolutely free, that you can continue to support the work of the ACLJ, even if you don't have the financials right now to make a donation. I'm going to encourage you today to download the ACLJ app. It's a great way to stay in communication with us, watch this show, sign petitions, get all of our content, absolutely for free, no paywall. You can do that at aclj.org slash app. Scan the QR code. If you're new and you're on YouTube or Rumble or you just haven't subscribed, half of you haven't, do it now. Welcome back to Sekulow. We do want to take your phone calls coming up. So let's go ahead and try to get some of those screened so we can have them ready to take because we are continuing our discussion. We're going to move on in a little bit. We have Rick Grinnell joining us a little bit later. We're going to talk about also, you may remember Tulsi Gabbard. She was placed on the Quiet Skies program. And now we have learned that the Quiet Skies program has been pretty much eliminated. We're going to talk about the fallout from that, the goods and the bads. Of course, we think it's mostly good as it did no good from what we've learned. But we'll talk about that coming up as well as continue the conversation about Elon Musk and President Trump. What it looks like. What's the fallout? Is there a fallout here? I know a lot of you are siding with one or the other or just saying hopefully they can get back going and get back along. We know that President Trump, or he reached out, or someone reached out saying he wanted to speak with President Trump today. And President Trump has said, not really interested right now. We're going to let things cool down for a little bit. And I understand that. Anyone who's run a business, anyone who's had to deal with people that you have issues with, it's not always the best to deal with when emotions are running hot. And they clearly are, as Elon started to throw out some pretty outrageous allegations. And President Trump has said to people like CNN, saying, hey, you know what? I hope the guy's doing well. I wish no ill will towards him. But, of course, also has to throw in his worthless cars that nobody wants and that kind of thing. So, you know, President Trump doesn't take fully the high road ever, but... higher road I guess than maybe where Elon is coming from right now but again the frustrations that happen in Washington DC I can't explain how annoying it all is you've had Rick Grinnell come on this show and say I leave as soon as I can there is a reason and it's not because it's a blood sport like they say or because everyone's so tough it's just so difficult to And it will. It's one of the issues we've talked about on the air here for years. It is so difficult to get things done. And that's why when the ACLJ, when we have a big celebration and we have a big victory, understand, the fight to get a law changed, to get anything moved, for status quo to be disrupted, it is nearly impossible in Washington, D.C. However, nearly. It's not 100% impossible, but you've got to have patience, patience, as Axl Rose once said, and you got to give it time and you got to have the best of the best. You got to have an incredible team working on your behalf. And that's why here at the ACLJ, we do hire the best of the best. I believe that. We hire the best media team. We hire the best legal team. Because you can't do it. You have to be able to wait it out. You have to be going through the disappointment, through the frustrations. You have to go through all of that to finally get to an inevitable, hopeful victory. Not inevitable, a hopeful victory. Because sadly, in Washington, D.C., the people who are representing us a lot of times are representing themselves. And you have to find the good people that are involved. I believe there are good people who really want things to get done in Washington, D.C. But there are a lot of long timers. There is a lot of new blood also that comes up and they are, you know, essentially becoming celebrities. They are not taking the job seriously to work in a bipartisan way or work towards... Look, I think we're seeing that with those cuts. So many of the cuts, I think a lot of people were very, very excited about. Finally, we're seeing government waste end. And then you turn and you look at some of the issues when it comes to some of the funding that maybe, like our call said, to think that government spending can't exist. Of course it's going to exist. There are things we want our government spending on. I want to make sure... that our servicemen and women are not treated poorly when they get back home, that they do have their medical bills taken care of, that they can afford to buy groceries. I want to make sure that we are taking care of people when they need it and that we're not falling into a trap of just deport everybody because it looks good on paper without actually spending the time to be nuanced on this. If we can't be at all nuanced, you're going to run into situations like happen right now, which is a campaign is very different than a presidency. And I think Elon Musk has learned that over the last few months, as sad as that may be.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and when you also look at the way that even Dana Bash, I want to read that line from that bite we played. You know, there are many people in both men's orbits trying to broker a peace deal, so to speak, trying to get them to talk because of the concern about the fallout in so many directions. I mean, the blast radius from this is the fallout is really, really big and very wide. This is the same day. That we had news that the president had a phone call with the chairman Xi in China and that there's going to be a trip. That is very high level. Remember, Joe Biden wouldn't even make a phone call to President Xi in his four years. You also had Russia retaliating against that drone attack with this massive barrage of rockets. You had President Trump hosting the Chancellor of Germany in talking about the world order as far as Ukraine and getting him to kind of side with the president in some things. Those are very big global stories that no one, I feel like, has heard about because... of reporters that want to talk like that that this is uh the fallout the blast radius they are making this salacious and tabloidy and now president trump and elon musk added to that they helped by keeping this this fight going online in public for hours but At the same time, it also shows you that the people in Washington, especially the Washington media, they thrive off this kind of salacious, partisan politic that... This is what they've wanted.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. They have wanted the fallout. And their fallout is show any sign of vulnerability because right now the Democratic Party is in a complete free fall mess. But when you have now two of the biggest names in current MAGA conservatism, as you will, fighting it out online and getting real petty, it shows cracks in the armor. It can happen. You can actually see how things can fall apart. And a midterm election is not too far away. I just saw a comment come in from Mr. X-Man. Good name, by the way. It says, I will always be Team Jesus because I'm never disappointed with human beings acting like humans. And I think that's true. We will always be the sense that you are dealing still with human beings who are flawed, have issues. No one escapes that. And they certainly, it is why we should not be putting up our political figures as some sort of spiritual guide or spiritual leadership. They are here to make sure our country is running safely, securely, that you're taken care of financially, that things aren't going horribly wrong with the economy, that we're safe, that we're protected here. Those are the things that they should be worried about. And I do think there is a mental mind flip that can happen here where we got to quit worshiping these people because you got to understand that there is no reason to. They are there to represent you and to make sure that we as American people and as America in general are stable. That is all I want. Some stability. I want to make sure that we are protected. that we can feel safe to walk down the streets, whether you are a Christian or Jewish or atheist or Muslim, that you can walk down the streets, not be afraid you're going to get attacked because the way you believe, which is what it is in the Middle East. But we're seeing that now in the streets of America. We want to make sure that we're still taking care of people like the way that Jesus would do while also being respectful of the money that we have to spend and make sure that it's not being wasted and sent to places that don't even exist or to organizations that don't even exist. There's a way for all of it to get done. We can meet in the middle on a lot of this. But if we spend our time on social media fighting, it just feels like you're ignoring the real issues of the day. And when President Trump has an opportunity now to go to China and start to solve those problems, that is what the story should be right now, not the fight of the billionaires. We're going to be taking your calls coming up. We also want you to go to the ACLJ website at ACLJ.org. Download the ACLJ app if you're with me. Also, we have a second half hour coming up. If you don't get us live on your local station, find me broadcasting live each and every day on YouTube, Rumble, or however you get your podcasts. Be right back in less than a minute.
SPEAKER 02 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. Second half hour, of course, we are talking about the, what happened to Dana Bash put it? She said the fallout. The blast radius could be quite large. The blast radius for the Battle of the Billionaires again. And if you're a WWE fan, you get the reference here. The Battle of the Billionaires, originally Vince McMahon versus Donald Trump. Now you have.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, you missed a golden opportunity for the thumbnail today, Logan, to just copy the Battle of the Billionaires artwork. You know what?
SPEAKER 05 :
A lot of people on the IWC, the Internet Wrestling Community, they've been posting that. Oh, got it.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you know what? I didn't inform our team.
SPEAKER 05 :
I should have. Obviously, President Trump and Elon Musk, the honeymoon's over. The fallout has begun. I don't think this is some sort of pretend shell game here. I do think that a lot of this has to do with frustration in Washington, D.C., And Elon must not be able to take it. And I do think you're talking about very, very strong personalities. Unfortunately, though. This has distracted a lot of the mainstream media because there is some real things happening. We're going to be talking about that coming up next with Rick Grinnell as the Quiet Skies program, the TSA program that we know that Tulsi Gabbard was put on and a lot of people have put on over the years where you were being monitored is being shut down by the Department of Homeland Security. So we're going to talk about what that looks like, why do we think that's important and why we think that's actually a good thing. I know some people will be like, why is that a good thing? When you hear about the facts of that program, I think you'll agree with us. But also, President Trump had a not just a call with President Xi Jinping from China. There is now planned movement for our relationship with China, whether you like that or not. By the way, I know some of the comments say don't go to China, but looks like President Trump will be making a trip.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. So that has to do with the trade issues that the United States negotiators are working out. And it's going to a high level. One, we found out that the negotiations will continue, that the U.S. teams will be meeting soon again with the Chinese counterparts, as well as an unplanned time yet. But there was an invitation from Chairman Xi to President Trump and Melania to come over to China, of which the president said he accepted. So they will be working on that. But I think there's another angle to this, too, Logan. And this is something that is quite frustrating when you've been around conservative politics for a long time. And that is sometimes conservatives are their own worst enemy. They get in the way of they we have the Senate, the House and the presidency right now. And everyone focusing, and I was as well. It was hilarious on the internet yesterday. The memes were top notch. It was the best meme day maybe ever. It was the best of memes. It was the worst of memes. But it was very funny and it was entertaining. I preferred the baby JD Vance ones, whatever. Those were making a comeback yesterday as he being the child of Elon and President Trump. Very funny.
SPEAKER 05 :
He was like, I'm hanging in Nashville with Theo Vaughn.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm not dealing with y'all right now. But that being said, while entertaining, sad for the country that that was the focus and the big issues weren't. And that... People were able to score political points like AOC had a very witty comeback when asked by a reporter. What is going on here?
SPEAKER 05 :
You're just trying to make the chat go crazy.
SPEAKER 04 :
What I'm saying, though, is that the right thing to do is one. President Trump has moved on on truth. He's no longer posting about Elon. But I do think for the good of the country and for the movement, the conservative movement, something needs to be resolved of it. reconciliation or even just no more hostility in order to say, hey, look, here's what we are focused on doing. And it does seem that President Trump has moved on. Elon, in some of his later statements later in the night, seemed like maybe he was cooling off. But I do think there was damage, not just to the country's perception, perhaps. President Trump has been saying what he wants to say for a long time. But I do think for the movement, with the midterms coming up, there needs to be some sort of fix there.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, phone lines are open for you. Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us in the next segment. And then after that, I'm going to take all the calls we can. So if you're on hold right now, Rich, James, Len, stay on hold. We got three lines open, 1-800-684-3110. As always, continue to support the work of the ACLJ, whether that's financially or just by engaging. Almost 490,000, we're at 489,000 people, are just on our YouTube channel. We're changing the world, everybody, one subscriber at a time. And we know only about 50% of people that watch this show each and every day even subscribe. So you can do me a big favor. While we're in this break, which is going to be very short, I promise, hit that subscribe button right now. I want to see that number pop. Be right back. Welcome back to Secular. We are going to take your calls in the next segment. We got one line open still. 1-800-684-3110. Rick Grinnell is joining us. Rick, it's been a quiet day in Washington, D.C. Not a lot of issues going on. Not a lot of feedback. But hey, we want to actually talk about some issues that we feel like are important for our audience today. uh to know about and to be following what's going on in one of those and maybe will could even set us up here one of those has to do with the tsa and the tsa's quiet skies program which some of you may be familiar with uh because we would have tulsi gabbard on this broadcast it was during the time she was under surveillance due to this program
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And Rick, now we're hearing that the Department of Homeland Security is shuttering this program. This was a program that began during the Obama administration, cost about $200 million a year, never stopped a single terrorist attack, and violated the civil rights of many Americans. So par for the course for Washington, D.C. But what's your take on this? Is this the right move at the right time from DHS?
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, Christie, Secretary Noem, is somebody who wants to see that programs work. If they don't work, she's going to act quickly. And this particular program over the last several years has spent almost a billion dollars of American taxpayer dollars And it just didn't work. It was a weaponization program, just exactly like what the Biden administration did to DOJ. They did with these lists and it was very political in nature, wasn't stopping terrorists. It was stopping people that were enemies of the Democratic Party and the controlling party. uh groups that were in the biden administration and so christine ohm uh is right to look at the program and say you know what look at this is not working this was a weaponization program it wasn't geared towards making us safer it was geared towards making us more politically uh against each other and and by ending it i think she deserves our support she it's it's you know not without controversy to step up and say i'm getting rid of this program all of the money was wasted uh we're cutting the people we're cutting the programs we're cutting the money we're going to save the money um and and she did it in a way She took her time. She looked at the program to say, is it working? Is this program from the Biden team a good program? And she decided it wasn't. So she cut it. I love the fact that she's acting like a governor, which is being responsible for the programs on whether or not they work. And implementing these programs is exactly what we need from cabinet secretaries, people who follow through on the money to see, is it being well spent? Not just saying, you know, we have a program that in theory is going to work. We want to know if we have a program in practice, if it's working. And she made the decision that it wasn't.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I think a lot of people look at this and go, well, why would we want to do away with a TSA program that's causing us, hopefully keeping us safe? But that's what we've learned, and it really wasn't that. It means you can start to free up that budget to reimagine ways to keep us safe, reimagine ways to change the way the airport system works, the TSA system works. It's not about eliminating safety precautions. It's about evaluating really what's going on from, like you said, from a gubernatorial, from a business standpoint, really.
SPEAKER 01 :
There's no question, Logan, that if this program was working, Secretary Noem would have kept it. There's no question about that. She's not a partisan person. When she was governor, she made decisions that were best for her state. And by the way, some of those decisions were controversial with Republicans and independents. Some of the programs were controversial with Democrats. What Kristi Noem has demonstrated is that she knows what works and is willing to make tough decisions. choices and tough decisions to make sure that the money is spent wisely. This program didn't work. It needs to be cut. I would challenge other secretaries, other cabinet members to really look at the programs that their divisions, their bureaucracies are spending our taxpayer payer dollars on and ask the question, is this program working? Does it justify the hundreds of millions of dollars that we're spending on it? If the answer is no, step up, take the political hits and do it. Cut it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Rick, when you look at this specific program, and one, this seems very much like the encapsulation of how things should work within the executive branches. When something's not working, cut it. And that's also what was a promise of the Trump administration when President Trump was running, that he was going to make reforms, make changes where things weren't working, do away with, and try to make government more efficient. Right. You see this, but they also, when he was running, ran on transparency and openness. Do you think we need to see, whether it be an inspector's general report or something of that nature, even just a congressional report, but into the types of abuses that went on? Because we know the high level of Tulsi Gabbard, which was high profile, obviously, and now the director of national intelligence. But just what extent... that this program could have or potentially did violate civil rights of US citizens.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, well, I thought that the way you characterized that was perfect. It's not vindictive. It's trying to figure out transparency and accountability. We spent almost a billion dollars on a program. I think there needs to be an evaluation. There needs to be an honest assessment. How was that money spent? Did it work? What were the abuses of it? What were the outcomes? I believe that transparency is not political. I believe that when government officials, whether they're Republicans or Democrats, when they come forward and they say, look, we tried this program, it didn't work, we're cutting it, or there was abuse here, or we did something wrong. I believe that when we're honest and transparent with the American people... that the American people then say, you know, I trust the government more. And right now, people don't trust the government because we see these shady things. And so, when you have transparency and when you have accountability, it may seem like it's painful to go through. It may seem like, oh, gosh, you know, we mismanaged funds or we spent money poorly. But I actually think for the long run, it helps the public see that there is accountability and they will have faith the next time you come up with an idea and decide that you're going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Obviously, we can't let you go without at least talking about some of the top stories that are going on today. China obviously is in the news, but obviously Elon Musk and this whole kind of debacle has been breaking. And there's a lot of people with a lot of feelings on it. And I know that you're involved in a lot of inner circle stuff, so I don't want you to violate any trust. You need to. But I think there are concerns when people see this and go, OK, it's not only just a battle of the billionaires, as I said, as President Trump and Elon seem to be talking it out. But how should people, especially those listening who who are are concerned about this, take all of what's going on for the last 24 hours?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, first of all, I think President Trump is right in that, you know, he was thankful for Elon Musk's support. Doge did some great things. But to be able to say, look, not any one person gets to have their way constantly. There's going to be disappointments. You're not going to be able to impact every single decision. I think that that's a strong leader. And the president is saying, look, I value Elon Musk's ideas and support, but I'm the president and I'm going to make the right decisions. And I think the non-political people tend to not get that. They just think that everything runs like a business and that's not true. There's politics in everything. And I love the fact that
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Rick, how many times have we talked about Washington, D.C. just operating so differently than any sort of business or environment that really anyone could step in, including the richest people in the world?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, exactly. And I think that's what we're seeing play out is the president is the president. He ran. He was almost assassinated. He's put skin in the game. And he's the one that's going to be accountable for these decisions. And he's going to make the decisions and he can rely on people like Elon, but they don't get to control the government. The president is in charge.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much for joining us. Will, you got any last? No, I thought it looked like your mouth was about to open. So I didn't want to stop that. You're like. Rick, thanks for joining us. As always, we always appreciate your feedback, your advice, and your commentary. If you want to support the ACLJ when you do that, know you're supporting having people like Rick on this broadcast, having incredible team members as part of the ACLJ, whether that's our legal team, our media team, our broadcast team. We can't do it without you. Right now, it's usually what I'd be saying, please call, but phone lines are completely jammed. So right now, if you're watching, you're one of maybe the 3,000 or so that are watching live right now, hundreds of thousands of you watch later on. Maybe you're one of those hundreds of thousands that are watching this not live. What I'm going to ask you to do, because we know, we can see the back end of the analytics. And over half of the people who watch this show every day, Maybe they've never seen us, but usually they just have, you know, I'll be honest. We're all a little lazy. I don't subscribe to some of these channels I watch every day, but I understand how important it is because it helps us get into the algorithms of other people, not just like-minded people, people that need to hear this. So I encourage you to just hit that subscribe button. We are about to crest 490,000 people just on YouTube alone. It's game changing. It's world changing. Understand that's bigger numbers than a lot of the mainstream media outlets could dream of having on their daily broadcasts. And that is because of people like you who support this work because we're not paid for by major sponsors. If you're hearing an ad in your local market, that's not going to us. If you're seeing a YouTube ad, that is a very small, small, small percentage of revenue that could come in here to the ACLJ. And that's why we always need your support, need your help. Become a champion if you can also. That's something that gives on a monthly basis. I see you got two champions on the line right now. They're getting buffed up to the front. Some people have been holding triple the amount of time, but they're going to go first because that is one of the perks of being an ACLJ champion. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Hey, one line opened up. Someone hung up. Give me a call. 1-800-684-3110. Let's go ahead and kick this off so we can get to as many calls as we possibly can. We're going to go to Bill, who is an ACLJ champion in Florida. Bill, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, this may sound a little far-fetched, but I keep thinking of the possibility that President Trump and Elon Musk fabricated this rift between them so that... Elon Musk could distance himself from Trump because his relationship has been damaged by everything that he's done. There's been a tremendous loss in Tesla and then there's, I read of a company I think in Finland that announced they were going to get rid of all their Teslas because they don't like the way that
SPEAKER 05 :
It's crossed all of our minds whether this is a course correction for Elon to try to get his actual businesses back on track. But I do think starting to throw things out like the Epstein list and all that, you don't have to go that far.
SPEAKER 04 :
I also think Tesla stock went down aggressively yesterday when this all started playing out. And I think the number reported was Elon Musk lost about $34 billion in stock value personally with it tanking like that yesterday. So I don't know that that was really the price that they would have done. There is a lot of theories out there. I think this was a pretty genuine fight aired publicly. I do see a lot of people posting their Trump-wrapped Cybertrucks. What are we going to do with this? Earlier in the week, you said, though, that I said, you know, that was a lie, like Maury Povich. Maybe we could broker the piece that Dana Bash was talking about, have both of them on here in studio, and we can just go through the tweets, go through the X post, and we can work it out for them.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. We can do it just like, look, we're on in the midday. Right. Or like those old shows.
SPEAKER 04 :
Daytime TV. Daytime TV. That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe we can get an Emmy for that. you know it better win an emmy if we can broker that beast deal yeah that'd be great so uh president trump mr musk the door is always open to you all right let's continue on elizabeth is calling from florida elizabeth you are on the air thank you for taking my call i am um it's pretty red hot down here in florida it's 92 degrees already but um
SPEAKER 11 :
I wanted to call and put in a plug for all the ACLJ, for all the work they've done, even for people I don't necessarily agree with. Sounds fair?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think that that, Elizabeth, we saw you reference the Green Party and some of the election rules that we were getting involved with. Last time. Look, it's true. The ACLJ team, what I've always told you is, sure, we are here to support Christian conservative values, but we also know that those values have to be protected and sometimes protected in ways that is unique, ways that are different, ways that aren't just directly tied to Christian conservatism, because we know. that if they go after another party or if they go after a candidate, there's a good chance they can turn that law back on you. That is what our concern is on some of what we talked about yesterday. Right, right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly that. I was just going to say, talking about the auto pen issues and the investigation retroactively, while it may be inconvenient or not what politically you want to see because of the damage that was done by the Biden administration, But that's also why we're going to tell the truth and we're going to say – call it like we see it and say I think it's maybe a short-sighted investigation, especially if they try to rein in certain things because it could hurt what we value down the road. What happens when you see the executive proclamation of – you know, reinstating the the ban of funding of abortion and things of that nature when the next president comes in and says, I'm going to undo that because also not just because I don't like it, but this can never happen again because I think the president was mentally unfit to make that decision. It's things like that that you have to think of. How can it hurt if you start putting limits on the executive, if you start putting things that are extra constitutional outside the Constitution as restrictions? It's not good for the country or for what we hold dear in the long term if you start to do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, let's keep going. We got four minutes, three calls. Let's try to do it. Let's go to James in New Mexico. James, you've been on hold for a long time. Apologize. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
uh, Sunday, more than likely.
SPEAKER 05 :
James back on hold. We'll try to get to him. All right. It looks, sounds like he was at a pottery class. David is calling. Uh, actually, yeah, let's go, David, David, quickly go ahead with your comment.
SPEAKER 08 :
Uh, yeah, I was wondering if the ACLJ could put together as, as you being attorneys, uh, a constitutional amendment that we could do as a grassroots type thing to, uh, make Congress do a balanced budget.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. Our legal team is listening, David, right now, so maybe they can get that done for you. We'll put in that request. Will and I are not attorneys, but we do kind of play one.
SPEAKER 04 :
constitutional amendment process david very very difficult i feel like especially something on like a balanced budget but you know uh i don't know that there's a more noble cause than trying that would be nice so david appreciate your call let's go to lynn who is calling in new york on youtube uh lynn you're on the air hi i just had a comment for president trump and elon musk
SPEAKER 10 :
You both have an ego problem right now, so take the egos, put them in a closet, lock them up, throw the key away, and move on. And I think President Trump's already started that, so Elon, it's up to you now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we know Elon's reached out to try to maybe make amends on a phone call. President Trump says, let's let cooler heads prevail, give us some time here. So we'll see, just like any time apart. Sometimes you just got to... Respite. You got to give a break. Just take a minute. Yeah. All right, let's go. Last call. James in New Mexico. You there, James? I'm here.
SPEAKER 1 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
I just wanted to comment real quickly that, you know, disbelief opened the door wide, opened for the... Democrats. And yeah, the fallout, the radius blast is nuclear in proportion. President Trump, comment for him, please. Seek God daily in everything you do and things will straighten out. I kid you not.
SPEAKER 05 :
i agree with you i think that's true for everyone who's listening this you should be doing that uh every day yourself so i appreciate james great call great comment to wrap up the broadcast here look we got two minutes left uh usually and that we went through those calls pretty quickly well yeah we did i i didn't monologue you didn't monologue we let them monologue yeah there was very distinct uh comments also so we appreciate everyone called in look it's friday We hope you have a great weekend. Try to take some time for yourself, for your family. Relax, rest, spend time in prayer. Know that the political side of all this, sometimes it can be very entertaining, but it shouldn't be controlling every aspect of your life. And look, today we've just simply asked you to download that ACLJ app or subscribe. So you can do that right now on our YouTube channel. You can download the ACLJ app in the App Store. Those are great ways to get involved with the ACLJ without just saying, you know, support the work, donate. No, you have to donate. Sure, that helps. It goes a long way. But these are easy ways to really support the ACLJ. I'm sure at times, specifically as we head into some of these bigger summer months, there's going to be things we're going to ask you to do that will be not as easy as that. And I want you prepared. I want you to be ready because we have a big second half of the year planned here at the ACLJ. Our legal team is ramping up. You've heard about it so much. Our media team, even more so. We're working on new studios. Talking to our crew before this about our new studio options that we're going to be having all over the world. Because like we've said, the ACLJ stands for the American Center for Law and Justice, but our borders do not exist. We are around the world. We have the ECLJ. It's a European center where my brother is right now. We have teams in Jerusalem at ACLJ Jerusalem. The European Court of Human Rights. We're at the UN. We're involved in politics here when we have to be. And of course, we're there to support your rights. views and your rights as Christians to believe how you want to believe, to worship how you want to worship. And we're doing that again around the world, whether that is in the DRC or Europe or America. It was a great week. Talk to you on Monday.

In this episode, host Reggie Rocco delves deep into the complex dynamics between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, uncovering the layers of influence and money that drive political decisions. Joined by his producer, Lukey Luke, they discuss how public personalities navigate the multifaceted world of politics, where morality and money intertwine intriguingly.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's up? What's up? What's up? You tuned in to 560 KLZ. KLZ. I'm a Uniter. I'm a Uniter. I'm your host, Reggie Rocco. Yeah. Yeah. KLZ. Yeah. Yeah. So right about now, we want everybody, I mean everybody, stand up. Stand up. Hold your hands up high. Lock arms. This is about America, baby. We bringing people together. I'm a United.
SPEAKER 05 :
One nation under God, indivisible.
SPEAKER 08 :
Woo! 560 KLZ. I'm United. This is Reggie Rocco. Of course, I'm with the greatest producer on the planet, Lukey Luke. What's up? Oh, what's going on, Reg? Lots, man. I'm not too happy, buddy. No, no. I mean, before the show even started, we were getting a little doom and gloom. Yeah, yeah. I think this is going to be an episode, one of your episodes, buddy. One of mine, huh? Golly. So let's get it kicked off. What happened to the bromance? The bromance with my boy. They broke up, Reg. They broke up. Dude, that quick? And over what? Now, if I'm keeping it real, look at it from a street level and look at it from a corporate level. And then look at it from a power level and a money level. And all that adds to me is that I see... I don't want to say Elon started it, but I believe maybe Elon supported Trump because he thought it was going to help his business. And The laws and that bill and the things that have been going on with the vandalism and all that is hurting his business. And maybe he left because of that. But see, here we go again. I'm about that same energy. You got all the money in the world. I mean, he's got all the money. Like, oh, what, $400 billion, $450, $450 billion, something crazy.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, it's never enough. It's never enough. There we go. Like I said, if you think Elon Musk is the richest person in the world, you're off by a big margin. The real richest people in the world aren't on the lists. They're paying people to keep them off the list. Off the list, huh.
SPEAKER 08 :
The E.V. bill. I always wondered about that. But how are you going to give 250 million? Is this this looks like a kickback because you don't have I'm deep rooted into what Trump said. It touched me. I'm standing literally three, four feet from him. and what he said to do. That was the whole reason. That whole thing, coming back here,
SPEAKER 01 :
Sorry, $288 million towards Trump's campaign. $288 million. And his net worth, Elon Musk's net worth, was $420 billion. This is his net worth. So, I mean, $288 million. Kind of chump change, actually, to a guy like that. Yeah, it definitely is. But...
SPEAKER 08 :
It looks like a kickback. It looks like he was expecting an off-the-record kickback. If you knew Trump was—he's always been saying he was going to cut the EVs thing. I mean, that's from day one. But you still came in and donated all this money. But my point is, if you're passionate about this man's policies, about America, about everything, if you're passionate like I am, It's impossible for you to turn around and hate this man or disrespect him, even behind the scenes, but especially in a public light or platform. That just don't make sense. That right there is not how it works because me, myself, I've sacrificed a lot. You got to deal with crazies, you know, and I'm talking about from the left and the right. You got to, you know, get out here where the people are. You got to show them love. You got to help them do this and that at the same time. Talk to them at the same time. Show them, teach them, and have a... To have the chance of bringing them in to grow in the party to where ultimately we can get back to God and country and make America great again. I mean, that's a tough task. And you have to do it from the bottom up, not the top down. I understand that. But I sit up here and I think about... Just how much personal money that I've spent in this. Let's not even talk about time. Now you know about time. You get paid to do a job, right? Whatever it is. But if you got to go to that job and work for free and put in overtime every week and you don't get anything and you're just trying to change somebody's perspective, Dude, all this stuff costs major money. And I believe you're absolutely right when you said nobody really cares because you're not helping the big man move his money. Is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER 01 :
I said the people who make the real big moves, right, the people who really matter, who have the real power, are looking at the guy who sent them $288 million. They're not looking at anyone who sent them less. Because that's what it is. Reggie, you have two friends, right? And you talk to them kind of regularly, right? These are your buddies. These are your pals. You go out with them. Well, you're making moves. You got a radio show. You're doing all right. Maybe work's looking out for you. One of your buddies... Buys you lunch. That's pretty nice. Takes you out, gets you a nice lunch. Another buddy says, here's $288 million. Let's get you a facility. Let's get you a car. Let's get you a private jet. Let's get you 15 buses. We'll go out to five-star restaurants every night of the week. You and I, we're going to make things happen. You're going to forget about the dude who bought you lunch real quick, Reg. That's just how it is. That's just how it works. Because if you want that private jet, and if you want that facility, and if you want your employees, and you want to keep that car, you've got to keep the dude who gave you the $288 million in your good graces.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so somebody like me, could I get the $288 million and still do what I do and just expand it like that? consequences and strings tied to it.
SPEAKER 01 :
Dude, there's always strings to any amount of money. When you're at that level, like I said, do you think they're giving away money out of the goodness of their heart? Do you think Elon Musk gave Donald Trump $288 million because he likes his social policies? That's not how money works. That's not how real life works. I think anyone who believes that they are giving away this money because they are good, moral people who just want to do what's right for the world, I think that's a very ignorant mindset. Because I think it removes all the evidence we've always seen across all of history and all of time. You're giving that money away because you're expecting something in return. That money always has strings attached.
SPEAKER 08 :
So with that, and that's 100, I believe that wholeheartedly what you're saying is absolutely true. So they don't care about the little guy, no matter how good or how well he does and moves.
SPEAKER 01 :
I mean, look at the music industry. Mm-hmm. They don't care about the little guy. They care about the big money, making big moves, playing with big players. Right. They don't care who's more talented, who's this, that. No, no. It's all about money. It's all about money. That mindset, that industry, that power, because money is power, right? And when you're in that sphere, you are in a powerful sphere. That doesn't go away when you move up. That mindset does not vanish when you get more money. That mindset gets worse when you get more money.
SPEAKER 08 :
So why is Trump... Running with that because he already had all the money. Why did he run for president and go through all this? Get shot for heaven's sake. And why did he do all this? He has all the money. He has all the power. Why is he doing if it's not from the kindness and the goodness from his heart?
SPEAKER 01 :
I think as far as Trump goes, you can say Trump is doing this out of the goodness of his heart. You can say that he does this because he believes in his policies and his stuff like that. But the people giving him money to run his campaign aren't there for the goodness of their hearts. Like I said, my opinion, I'm not a huge Donald Trump fan. I've made that pretty clear a number of times. But even assuming, let's take Donald Trump and say that he is a paragon of morality and that everything he's doing is out of the goodness of his heart. Well, the money from the people supporting his campaign, that's not always the case. Even if it's not a behind-closed-doors deal, even if it's not some deep-seated conspiracy, it's pretty open. I, as a... We'll say... Me as a free market capitalist, I'm going to support Donald Trump because I believe his economic policies are going to be better for my business. So I'm going to give him money. Even if it's not behind closed doors, that's the mindset. You are donating to the candidate whose policies you believe are going to help you. And you get enough of those people with enough of their own agendas. Well, Donald Trump's now in this position of, well, I got to make sure my policies are helping the people who helped me. There's a little give and a little take, which is why I think we're talking Elon Musk bounced is because Elon Musk gave Donald Trump a decent chunk of change with this idea that, hey, I think Donald Trump's policies are going to help me. And then they didn't. And then Elon Musk got mad.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree with what you're saying. But when does morality come in? When does ethics and godly instincts take over in reference to this whole situation? Because it can't be all about money, can it? Everything about money? Trump's not even taking a salary, but He doesn't really need to, but it's his. He deserves it. Obama's getting $2 million, was getting $2 million a year or whatever for creating Obamacare, which should be illegal. He's already getting paid. That's his job, what he's supposed to do. He turned it into a situation where this is his intellectual property, and he sold it to the government. Basically, that's what it is. That's criminal.
SPEAKER 01 :
I think when it comes to morality, For the most part, I think predominantly, a lot of people who get into politics go in with the right mindset. I think a lot of people, I'd prefer to believe that they get into this line of work because they care. And I'll reference it to the music industry again because it's something you're familiar with. You can go in with whatever mindset you want, but it's an atmosphere. It is a world, and you get wrapped up in it pretty quickly. You can be a very moral person in the music industry. But when you're surrounded by all these people, I mean, it kind of picks you up and it takes you where it wants you to go. And I think that happens a lot in politics, really any institution where a lot of that money is moving around.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, Luke, you're preaching it, bro. You're preaching it because that's exactly true. As soon as you sign on the dotted line, well, first of all, they don't even think about you unless they know you're out there doing something and you're making money. And they can make money off you. So then... Someone like me signs a deal. You go in there and you're doing that. You take your morality. You take the ethics. You take your spirituality with you and you start going in there and you're working. You're doing all this stuff. And then you start seeing everybody around you. Everybody around you is nothing like you.
SPEAKER 01 :
You're absolutely right. I think it's also, you know, it's a lot of compromises. I mean, throwing it to politics. Let's say you, Reggie, you want to become a congressman, right? You want to get into power because you want to do the right thing, right? Well, let's say something comes across your desk that you don't really like. You don't really want to approve it. You don't really want to sign it. This is not your cup of tea, right? But if you don't make sure that this bill goes through – your time in Congress is done. You're out. They will eject you, right? They'll never listen to you again. So if you want to be listened to, you got to let this one pass, right? Just this one, and then we can start making the real change. So you let that one pass. Well, how many times does that happen? It's like, oh, well, if you really want to make a change, if you really want to be someone, you got to make sure you grease a wheel over here. And this guy, this guy really knows everyone. So you got to make sure you're friends with him. And, you know, hey, make sure you give a little money to the dude in the back because he's good at what he does. I mean, like I said, you could go in for the right reasons. There's a little compromises here and there all along the line. Next thing you know, you are all compromised, kind of in service to the people with real power.
SPEAKER 08 :
We're all slaves, man, to money. We can't exist without money. Nothing is for free. I understand that. The price is just how the system is set up. But knowing that, you still, to me, have to get with the little guys first. You may not care about them, but if you have an agenda, they do play a part in your agenda in a broader spectrum. But you're absolutely right, because like Cavs will always say, He's like, yo, man, they don't care about the, it's about the big money. They don't care about what we're doing, how much it costs. They don't care about none of that stuff. They care about their bottom line and they set up. And my thing is, okay, they do. Okay, this is fact. And can't nobody tell me other words. I know what it's cost me. I know what it's cost me in time and deals and, you know, safety, you know, coming over here. But it's changing, dude. It is changing. It's a lot. My people are changing. You know, CPT time. You know what that is, right? No, I can't say I do. Color people time. Ah, gotcha. Better late than never, per se. And I kind of agree with that mostly, but there are incidents. But no, man, things are changing, and they're changing for the better. But if you have your mind totally focused on money...
SPEAKER 01 :
It seems like you get to where you want to go way quicker. I mean, you got to – like I said, you got to grease some wheels. Yeah, you were talking about the little guy, and it just got me thinking. It's – I mean, the people in real power, right, the people with real power and money, I think we as regular citizens, regular people – We are locked behind so many layers of bureaucracy that is so easily corrupted. I can send an email to the governor of Colorado all I want. He's going to trash it, right? He's not going to read it. He doesn't care. Right. And then it's like, you know, you and me, if we want to make real change, right, if we want to do something, we got to talk to like our local people. We got to go to like our county commissioner. Right. And then the county commissioner goes to the dude above him. And then the dude above him goes to the dude above him. And then the guy above, you know, and it just keeps escalating and escalating and escalating. It's like even if you go like a real small level, look at my town, for example. My town, small town, a little bit south. I'm out in Elizabeth. There was a big controversy relatively recently because a developer comes in to our small town and says, hey, I want to build a bunch of homes, hundreds of homes. Well, no. We don't really like that idea. We're a small town. We want to keep it a small town. Well, the developer's fiancée or the developer's wife says, is on the town council. Oh, my God. And the developer might not give anyone on that council money, but, you know, the wife might say, hey, friend. I got a cabin up in Vail. You want to come hang out for a weekend? No obligation or nothing, but come hang out. Right, right. Well, next thing you know, those houses start coming into the town, Reg. Yeah. And it's like at the smallest level, at the tiniest, tiniest, tiniest level, town council is happening, right? And that problem just compounds and escalates. It sure does.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're absolutely right. Who's on the phone? Johnny. Johnny, you there? Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
yeah yeah i wanted to add a little bit into this okay first about the little guy okay they won our votes and they promised right but they know like if you had a girlfriend and she promised something to you and then she doesn't do it you can look at her every day and say you didn't do it but the politician said well i'm your girlfriend i'm gonna promise you something i'm not gonna deliver it but i want your vote and you'll forget about it because you're not looking at me every day saying, you know, you're not going to give me what I asked for. Now, the president says there's only three presidents that have donated their salary. That was Kennedy and Hoover and Donald Trump. And what they do is, Instead of taking the pay, they donate it to their favorite charity. So the $400,000, he donates maybe $100,000 to this charity, donates another $100,000 to the charity. So they're required to get paid, but what they choose to do with that pay is what they choose to do with it, and so they just donate it to their charity.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, okay, with all that, Trump... And Luke, man, you know, this is a you might as well smile from ear to ear, buddy, because you are 100 on point with this, because I would have never thought Elon and Trump would have been doing this. Now, this this bill. Bill's is looking like it's full of a bunch of horse manure. But I trust Trump. So I don't know what's in there and if something's in there that shouldn't be. I don't believe it's done purposely. Me, purposely. I don't see it. Because at the same time, you've got to have what's the motive. Nobody does anything without a motive. You say it's money, money and power all the time, every time. But there, you know, I will say that. But sometimes it's security. Sometimes it's protection. Sometimes it's sacrifice. What's what's the motive? What motive would Trump have to put a bill out there that like you just showed me what everybody making thirty thousand or less? Is getting taxed, what percentage?
SPEAKER 01 :
Do you remember? It was a shocking amount of tax increases for people making under $30,000 a year.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that just don't sound like Trump. That don't sound like Trump to me. Because they're trying to make this like it's an actual tax break for the rich? Is that what you're really just boiling down?
SPEAKER 01 :
I mean, that's what the numbers of the bill state, right? The numbers state if you're making... under a certain amount of money, tax increase. If you're making over a certain amount of money, tax decrease. That's not speculative. It's not like an interpretation. Those are what the raw numbers in the wording of the bill say.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know where Republicans... conservatives make their biggest mistake is because they don't support the little guy. And what you're saying, nobody really does. But if you look at the broader spectrum of everything and you analyze this, You have to have enough people in your corner in your party so you can put into action the things you want to have done. And if you can't do that, you still have other chances to do it because you have a bigger party now. Our problem is we're not tech savvy. We've got to get younger. And we also have to get funded because, trust me, it's incredible how many people Trump got that voted. And it's incredible how many minorities and everything now have crossed over. and we can't take that for granted. And I know my people, so it's all gravy now. Trump's doing everything. He's letting out, he's partying people, he's doing all these things, but he always has done that stuff behind the scenes, but he's doing it in front, in front of the world. But if we have people bow out after all this work and leave the Republican Party, and I'm talking about the Hispanics and the blacks mainly, We got to start all over. So what we have to do is address this like we're behind, not like we're ahead. We have to keep pushing. And I would be pumping money into the little guy because that is the one that's out handshaking in the neighborhood, doing what he does and getting the information to these people. You can't ignore that because if you lose those numbers, we may never get them back again. What do you think, Johnny?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think it's a delicate chance that he has to do in order to keep the new people that he's got and to kind of see, like, are they going to really reap into what the bill really is saying. And like I said, okay, he has four years. He has to get this one through first, and then he'll get through some of these other things. But first, this one. And this one may look like it's really bloated. But maybe, I'm hoping like the second one that he goes for will have those cuts. It's like this delicate dance.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm glad you said that because to me, I'm going to just be honest, I'm not naive. You know I'm intelligent. So I'm just telling you personally, Trump is a chess player. So it doesn't matter to me what's in this bill because he's the type of person that gets things done and Once that's there, he can fake left, go right, or whatever he needs to do. So what's ever in that bill that people are going crazy about, I believe there's something else coming on the back end, on the side. I think he's a chess player, so I don't read into all this stuff because nobody thinks like him because they're not him. I believe he's genuine to the core on what he wants to do for America and American people.
SPEAKER 04 :
You got to remember, like, okay, this is his first time around in this kind of atmosphere. Trump did this before, remember? Every time he, the last time he signed this Umbria bill, he said, I really don't like it. I really don't want to sign it. But he saw those guys. Smiling at him and because they knew they wouldn't get some pork out of it So this is the second time around had time to think about it So he knows how to get around these guys because he's been there must First time he doesn't know if you think that all you screwed over, but it's not a screw-up He said this is how we got to do it.
SPEAKER 08 :
This is never about Elon Musk. So okay, so to Luke's point so, okay the bill has We're getting rid of that whole section with the EVs, okay? And that's his company. So what? You knew that from day one. You knew that from day one. Unless they were in the back saying, oh, we're going to do it, fix it, whatever. Whatever fell out, you don't disrespect because it makes you look insane and crazy and cheap. And it's not a good look for the party. And now you're giving energy back. to the other side to try to, you know, destroy what we have going anyway. To me, Elon Musk is doing some traitor, treacherous stuff right now just because of how he's handling it. And if he has a problem with that cut, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of people, and Luke, this is the kind of stuff you do. I'm sure there's a lot of people you could divide up that $488 billion and And I'm sure there's a lot of people you could help. A lot of people you could feed. A lot of people you could fund to grow the party, to grow your ideologies and everything. You know, go ahead. Put your money up and go ahead and do it. Because I'm not sure how he even got rich. I don't even know why he's that rich. I mean, I would think somebody in Saudi Arabia, Middle East or somebody, Dubai would be holding that. But... a white guy from South Africa? I mean, like, come on, man. You don't want to just, you know.
SPEAKER 04 :
He met somebody. He met somebody in the government that said, okay, if you fill out this paperwork for this contract, I'd have to do some of those grants. Those grants could be pretty big, especially the federal grants. So he was probably met someone and said, okay, if you do this, you partner with the government because they have all these contracts out there for the government. and you you supply this uh you can get to this level and then i'm thinking just step by step it started growing and growing and and nobody was looking so it got to this level so so but johnny that's okay i understand that but here's my point he elon musk has all this money already
SPEAKER 08 :
He's already a multi-multi-billionaire, whatever you want to call it. He could take that money and help a lot of people. it's crazy that he's upset over a grant. He shouldn't even be getting a grant, you know, to tell you the truth. Hey, Luke, I got $488 billion. I got $488 billion, Luke. But I want to go ahead and go to the government and get some more money free that I don't have to spend out of my pocket.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I'm calling it a grant because, I mean, that's my mindset. But it's government contracts. Is this government contract that you can sign up with the government and they want you to do a service for them? And so you do that service and you get paid for that service.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so what's the service? What's Elon Musk's service? Why do I care at all about Elon Musk? I hate electric cars. Like, period. I don't want a car driving me, telling me what to do, where to go. I just don't trust it. Technology is great, but I still don't trust it to that level. Nothing can replace a human being.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, that was another deal. That was a deal that he made with the Democrats when he was in good with them that says, OK, you love this fake Green New Deal. All right. Everybody's getting their hands greased. I want to get my hand greased. Give me, subsidize it, and I can guarantee you that if you write this bill in the right way, you know. Well, maybe you can plant then.
SPEAKER 08 :
So all you're telling me is that Elon Musk was a Democrat. He agreed with their policies, and he started doing, you know, let's make every car in the world electric, according to Luke. uh yes he's doing that because he thinks that it'd be better for our earth but that's a small part the real part is he's looking at that he's now got getting all this money in his company everybody will have to buy a car from him or companies like him so he's looking at the money move the money grab so because i don't i don't think he really cares about about the like greta
SPEAKER 04 :
yeah who's over there shipping uh food over to afghanistan or wherever she's at in israel yeah they don't really they don't really care about that they just say that to for fun like you know they're fronting people right and the money's there so okay i'll go along i'll pretend climate change But do I really believe it? No, I just believe in that dream.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so how can you sleep then? I mean, if I have $488 billion and I really believe in something, I don't need anybody else's money. I can do... It's like right now, if I had the money to do what I really, really want to do and can do, like... Man, it would be incredible. Everybody on the planet would know about it. But would it make me any money? No. All the money would be going out, Luke. It's not something. If I had my own money to do what I really want to do, like $100 million, everybody on the planet would know what's going on. But would I be making any money? No.
SPEAKER 01 :
I think you got to consider the implication of that. Where it's like, you know, the reason you don't have... 420 billion dollars right is because you would give it away the people who have that kind of money have it because they're not the kind of people who would give it away my god that is so true that is so true
SPEAKER 08 :
I would give it away, there's no doubt. And so that's a red flag to the greedy. They want their policies and they want everything done and they act like they want all this help to be done, but they don't. They really don't. They're not willing to put money into it to make it happen. Wow, this is good, man. This is a good conversation. Hey, stay on, hang on, Johnny. We will be right back. I'm a uniter.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Woo, 560 KLZ. It's Reggie Rocco, Lukey Luke. I'm United. Johnny's on the phone. Looks like we got somebody else. Alex. Alex, are you there? Yeah, what's going on, Rocco? What's up, buddy? How you been? i've been good man i've actually been really good man you know how you been good good um hard working you know trying to make it happen trying to you know what's the slang trying to make a a dollar out of 15 cents trying to get trying to get the message out there man it changed the world man what's popping yeah
SPEAKER 03 :
nah man i mean things are good man i just wanted to call in you know what i'm saying really just to say i'm grateful for the conversations we've been able to have over the past few weeks just about you know just about life politics you know keeping an open mind so you know i'm saying and like you know things have been going good with the real estate and just going good with my businesses and i know that we also got a little something under the wraps that me and you are working on and i'm saying like you know when it comes to the podcast And so, I mean, I just wanted to call in and to say I'm grateful. But, you know, I also wanted to personally invite you to a Rockies game tonight because I was able to get a few tickets, man. Great seats. It's going to be, like, pretty much on the field. And I got four tickets, man. And, like, you know, I was able to get it from, like, you know, someone I sold, actually, first client, Corey Sullivan. And so I just wanted to hit you up because – You've been in my corner for, you know what I'm saying? You've been in my corner for a few months now, and I just want to take you out, you know what I'm saying? So if you're free tonight at 640, I'd be happy to pick you up, Scoob, or we can meet somewhere. But, you know, yeah, yeah, that's the reason I'm calling pretty much.
SPEAKER 08 :
man that that that is so cool that is an honor man and and the way the day is looking i'm gonna need some uh rest and relaxation so apparently uh your your real estate situation is must be just banging i mean you got solid and cory and then he hooked you up with these tickets man yeah man oh man
SPEAKER 03 :
So, like, Corey Sullivan, he used to play for the Rockies. He's played for a few teams. But now he's more on, like, the commentary, you know what I'm saying, side of things. And, yeah, man, you know, I'm able to get tickets sometimes. So I was like, man, I got to call Reggie, man, because, you know, you personally have helped me kind of, you know what I'm saying, get in the mindset to be able to be where I am. So, you know, I'm just grateful, you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
I appreciate that, man. And, yeah, you and what's your partner's name? DeWitt, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like, you know. Yeah, man, you guys are special. And, you know, we got some things going on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you guys are special, man. And I appreciate that, man. And heck, yes, I'll contact you when I get off the air. But that's incredible, man. Keep it up, man, because, you know, I've been doing a little Googling, man, a little research on you and what's going on out there in that real estate world, dude. You're killing it. And I just remember you when I first met you. And now you're over here, conservative, out in front. And you got major deals going on. You got your music. You got everything. And your real estate is good. Man, that is just so great, man. And a black minority. That's the key. Growing the party. Growing the party.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly, man. It's a lot easier to be able to do that when I'm able to see people like you that's been doing this for years, man. I appreciate you. Also, just so you know, when it comes to real estate, it is a buyer's market. I happen to know people that will buy down your rate, have you be very comfortable when it comes to certain things. Anyone that you or anyone knows trying to get at home, trying to see what's possible, contact me. I'd be happy to make something happen.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, man, say your number, dude, because we need more people like you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, sir. Yeah. 719-717-7104. But if you just type in Alex Angels Real Estate, you'll be able to find me and you'll be able to see kind of what I do, you know?
SPEAKER 08 :
Cool, man. I appreciate that. I'll get with you tonight. I definitely appreciate the gesture.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, sir. Come through tonight, man. The seats are on the field, man.
SPEAKER 08 :
Golly, man.
SPEAKER 1 :
On the field.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. Wow. That's incredible, man. Okay, well, cool, man. I'll hit you when I get off the show. Thanks for calling in.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course, man. All right, brother. Stay blessed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Peace.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you know anybody that got any Metallica tickets.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, man. Hey, Luke, is this a kickback from all the great things in Wexley? It cheered up my day a little. It cheered up my day a little. Corrupt and you should feel bad. Oh, my God. You know it's bad when you feel bad. Man, rocking tickets on the field, dude? Are you serious?
SPEAKER 01 :
Take the tickets, Reg. Take the tickets. I got to, man. I got to do it. See right there?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's how it happens. See? You just made an example of that, too. That's how it happens. Yeah, dude. Stop it, man. Stop it. Donnie, come here. Get this dude. Get me off the air. Someone take away my microphone. Get Luke out of here. So, look, man. Elon is wrong. I don't care what back dealings, how he's doing it up front is number one. Number two, it looks like, you know, he's mad over that money. The Democrats were mad at him because he agreed to he got the money from the Democrat side. He got the money when. That was their agenda within the Green New Deal, all that kind of stuff. So then he switched over to Republican. So right there, that was a dirty move in politics stuff. I mean, there you go. So now he's coming up here. He's with Trump. And he's telling Trump, hey, I'm with you. I'm going to put X amount in here. And I got this, you know, government thing coming through. So let's just roll, you know, put me in those. We'll do all that work, blah, blah, blah. But I think maybe he was expecting that to stay and be. off the list. He was going to get that money and it wasn't going to affect him. So when Trump did that, it seemed like as soon as he did that, he left. And now he's saying all these things. See, when you meet somebody, you never really meet who they are. You always meet their representative. You never meet who somebody is. It takes you a minute to get through. And I know some people that can fool you for years before you really find out who and what they are, how they really think. So
SPEAKER 04 :
wait go ahead johnny look at this look at this okay uh biden is not a dealer in willard whoever the crony was that must dealt with he's probably out of that office gone right so i don't think he's ever had a chance to be next to like a president like like donald trump hang out at his house and things of this sort oh no he has that crony that crony who he dealt with the biden area or whatever he dealt with them it's probably gone doesn't have the same kind of pull as he did and so now trump is there he looked at this and says okay we want to have a variety of vehicles from hybrid to gas to electric and i want to just make another deal so so maybe um And then again, maybe they got together and said, okay, the heat was on you, Musk. Now in order to get the heat off of you, let's make you the bad cop and I'll be the good cop.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we better start looking at kickbacks from the Democrat side. This goes deep. But I'm telling you, big dog, the bottom line for me, is that you don't fall out of love with somebody in a day, overnight. You don't do it. I don't care what the relationship is. And if you ever respected that person and believed in that person from the beginning, even if you have a fallout, you still have respect to talk to this person, sit down, meet, greet, try to work it out. That type of thing. That's the energy where I'm at. I was just asked today about all these phones. Well... The only thing I'm doing for, and it's major, is teaching technology and getting the word out on the social media platforms because that's what's up. That's where the hundreds and hundreds of millions and millions of people are, and you have to be in that form, and you have to promote technology. Your message. God. Country. You know what I'm saying? And you have to promote the right way. You have to get it out there. So, unfortunately, the people who own these platforms, they have... They're liberals. They're liberals. Or they are dictators. And they are making money hand over fist. Legally and illegally from off of you. So, if you say anything against them, if you say... or fight or buck the system in any way, they're going to block you or take you down because they don't want the truth coming. They don't want you reaching other people to change their mind. That's why I have all these phones, computers, software, subscriptions, all this stuff. It costs a lot of money, dude. And that's not including the time or the work it takes to reach there. But that's what Trump do. That's what he said. So we have to educate. We have to grow the party and we have to get our message out. And if it gets buried, on social media or we have no slot or existence there, it's a wrap. It's a wrap, dude. So Trump knows this. Trump knows this. That's why he has his own social media platform. That's why, you know, with the X thing, you know, He knows. He knows. That's why he, with the TikTok, he said, hey, nah, let's put it off. Let's put it off. Let's put it off. Let's work it out. Trust me, dude. That's where it's at. So all I'm doing is promoting our message. And you have to do it in different. To the Christians, I'm doing it one way. to the conservatives, I'm doing it one way, to the Democrats one way, the liberals. It's all different ways that you have to do, but you must do it. You must do it because that's where everything is. Digital money, all that, everything's going to be, no hardware, everything's going to be in cyberspace, dude, everything. Every single thing. Your cars are driving. Your planes and trains are moving and driving themselves. I mean, everything. Your money is now turned digital. You know, it's being sent in the air. You know, that's what it is. And we can't stop it. We have to evolve to it. Is it dangerous? It's very dangerous to me. I wish we could actually go back to the old way. But I don't think that will ever happen, Luke.
SPEAKER 01 :
Do you? No, you cannot stop progress. You can attempt to slow it, but even then. I think the stuff that's here is here to stay, and the stuff that's in the works will be worked on. I mean, I've brought it back because it comes up a lot when you talk about AI. There's a lot of people who are scared of AI. A lot of people who are terrified of AI. Me, I am too, but I'm good at it. And it's like, you know, we need to stop it. We can't do it. It's not good. But I think, you know, it's very limited. Back in the day when lace making was all done by hand and then a lace making machine came out, you had people running into those factories and burning those machines to the ground because they didn't want it. It was removing jobs, whatever. We got factory-laced now. You can burn all the factories you want to the ground. It will not stop progress. People will move forward. That's just how it is. That's how it always has been, and that's how it always will be.
SPEAKER 08 :
And even Elon Musk, I've seen him. I heard it out of his own mouth. He said, AI is dangerous. Dangerous.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's not going to stop it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but I'm like, this is coming from the guy who's making all these cars drive by themselves and sending rockets into space and all this stuff. He's talking about it's dangerous. Well, it would be really dangerous if he was the only one that had the AI technology. So we all have to have it. We all have to learn it because, like you said, we can't stop it. We have to learn it, and we have to set up the future with our kids. and our kids' kids with this situation because you will be left in the prehistoric times on everything if you don't get into this technical world and understand where we're at. And, hey, that's where I'm at. So I'm going to always... Do what I have to do. It would be much easier. And if you're not in it, Luke, you're telling me everybody's in it for money. That's what you're telling me. You're saying every single thing is in it for money. Even if you're filthy rich, filthy rich, it's still you want more money. Isn't that the very definition of greed? Isn't that one of the seven deadly sins? Yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. Like I said, I think a lot of people are in it for money. Maybe not everyone. I don't want to paint with a broad stroke. But I think a lot of people are. Most people. I think a good chunk. I would say a majority of people are in it for the money. I think it takes – I mean, again, look at history. Look at our politics. Look at our industries. Look at anyone in power. I think you would find that people who are moral, who are good, and who care are the exception to the rule. I mean, just look at anyone who represents us. Look at, you know, look at just about anything, any industry. I think you'd find that the exception to the rule are the moral people.
SPEAKER 08 :
You can go right to the church and pastors and see how much money they have. I mean, we've got pastors that got jet planes and private homes in every state, in the country, out the country, you know, private islands and all kind of stuff. And I'm like, wow. you you're a church right and you're preaching this word and you can really make up stuff as you go oh today oh i need this god told me there was even a a pastor that locked everybody in the church and said nobody is leaving until we get a thousand dollars a person yeah
SPEAKER 01 :
I think sort of like what we were talking about when it's like the reason you'd never make $420 billion is because you'd give it away. I think it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy in a sense, right, if you think about it, wherein the people who are greedy, who are going to connive, who are going to lie, cheat, and steal – To get money are the people who are going to have that money. The good, moral, honest, hardworking people who take that money and redistribute it into their community, who create jobs, who pay fair wages, those people will never be filthy rich because their morality is making them be fair with it. So it's like anyone who is crazy rich is crazy rich because they're taking that money, because they're doing the things that secure them that. That's what I think.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll give you an example of a business guy I know. He has a moving company, and he hires legal. But he's getting undercut because there are other companies out there who are hiring illegal so they can cut the prices lower than him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Boy, book you with this gloom and doom. I just, I don't know.
SPEAKER 01 :
I think the logic tracks.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think it makes sense. It does, though. You know me. I'm straight up. I like to keep the same energy. Because you can't really battle. So we're all in agreeance. I don't care what you're doing. It takes money to make it happen. And then you have to do everything you can and be as ruthless as... technically as you can and as greedy as you can to bust through to get your money now once you bust through there and you get enough money that you need That's the point where it really bothers me. Okay, so you're there. I just don't know. I'm Trump. I'm not doing this, yo. It has to be a moral fiber. Elon Musk, if I've got all that money, don't you understand there's one thing that money can't buy your way into heaven. Money cannot stop you from dying. You know, so is it really, really, really that important?
SPEAKER 01 :
Evidently so.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is it really that important?
SPEAKER 01 :
Right? It's not going to stop you from dying. It's not going to buy you into heaven, but it can get you a private jet to Tahiti whenever you want. It makes your time on Earth a lot more enjoyable.
SPEAKER 08 :
But if you're greedy with your money, if you're not genuine in your heart, you can't fool the master. You can't fool the God, our God. You can't fool him.
SPEAKER 01 :
You think the people with that kind of money believe? I don't think so. I don't think so. I think if you have that kind of money and you believe in God and the Bible and the teachings of Jesus, then you'd understand that the teachings of Jesus implore you to use that money for the greater good. Right. And if they're not doing that, then clearly they don't believe, or if they do believe, they don't care.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's scary. That's scary. Johnny, where you at, man? I hear all this noise in the background.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm walking to the gym.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're walking. You sound like a parade.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm walking to the gym. I'm on 13th Street. It's a lot of traffic, so it is what it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, I appreciate you calling in, though. What's going on down there anyway? Why are you down there?
SPEAKER 04 :
Just down here, usually I go work out at 10 o'clock every day. Well, Friday's the week, and, you know, just trying to. Stay healthy because, you know, what's the good of having money if you're sick?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's true. That's true. I've seen the video out there. And some things, like, it touches me that, you know, it tears you up. And, you know, usually it's only things about my mother that can tear me up. Or things of great kindness or sacrifice. And I've seen... A father laying in bed with his son that looked like he was about 12. And his son is going to die without a heart transplant. And they can't find a donor to match. But the only match that they had was his father. So it went down to the timeline to where you have to make a decision or he's going to die. They show the father in bed and he's telling everybody, this is what I have to do. This is what I want to do. This is what I must do. He is going to let the doctors kill him to give his son his heart. Now. If that don't get you, nothing will get you. The kid is crying. He knows he's losing his dad, but he also knows he's going to be gaining life. And that was just very touching. And you just looked on the father's face and on the kid's face was so grateful and he's crying and he's bawling. The father's face, you could tell he had a little fear, but he was walking that way no matter what. Now, that is something else, man. That is something else. So, I try to mimic... myself in those ways on there. Like I say every day, Luke, what do I say? I'm not perfect. We're all sinners. After I leave here, haircut, club. Yes, that's what it is. But I do have morality. I do have ethics and morals. You just try to keep pushing. You know what, Luke? All that goes away with money, though. You're right. They can't believe in that because the reason they have that kind of money is because They don't believe. And you're right. I would give it all away. And that's a flag to the people up there. They want somebody that's going to keep making the money, bringing the income to the system. They don't want you to share the wealth and bring everybody up and do what you need to do. And I've been experiencing that for years, not just in politics. I really didn't think politics was like this, though. Boy, was I wrong. It's worse than music industry. Without a doubt, it's worse. Wow. Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, it's more money. It's more power, which means the problems are more.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, all these Democrats are admitting now that, you know, we are right. The right is the best way that they were wrong about Biden. They're wrong about all this other stuff. You got people leaving the country, people, you know, resigning. But then you got other people standing up and saying, yeah, I was wrong. You got other people that's changing and doing that. So that part is great. This is a real problem with Elon Musk. What he's spitting out and how they're doing in public, that's a real problem. Not because it's going to hurt Trump financially or his base. His base is his base. It ain't going anywhere. What I'm afraid of is that if they... If the Republican Party doesn't do what they need to do for the minorities and keep growing the party and getting that message out, it's not going to be good for this next cycle, even midterms. It's not going to be good. So we have to keep pushing. We have to keep getting the message out. We have to keep doing it, and we have to do it on that platform. And that's all I do with – Black Lives Matter is on the social media platforms. Promote the message. Grow the party. And, yeah, if we had that type of level of money, it wouldn't stop me. It wouldn't stop me. It would only make things better. So that's how I'm going to look at it. But, you know, man, Johnny, it is getting very, very, very close to this time. I love coming here. I love the show, man. I love talking what we're doing. And just you guys, if you guys want to donate, send checks to money orders whatever or go to weareblacklivesmaga.com and if you can do it do it great it's um either way we're going to keep moving nothing's going to stop and we're going to go ahead and count this down three two one and we out yeah all right y'all
SPEAKER 07 :
But you've been listening to KLC 560 AM. I'm a United Reggie Rocko. Yeah, it's fun. We will tackle the issues. We will unite the country every week, every Friday morning from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. It's about love, y'all. Have a wonderful morning and a great day. Yeah, we're United. Yeah, we're United. Yeah. That's right, Colorado.
