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All right. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Daniel Turner joining us now, Power of the Future. Welcome back, Daniel. How are you?
SPEAKER 10 :
It's great to be on with you. Thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER 18 :
Always a joy. Give us your impression of the last, you know, it hasn't been even a full week yet. We've only been just a few days with Donald Trump. What's your first impressions?
SPEAKER 10 :
These energy executive orders are exactly what we need to jumpstart the energy industry. to hopefully lower prices. You know, I made a little video just not long ago walking through my sheep farm, and I was talking about how expensive hay is. You know, we've gotten a ridiculous amount of snow and cold in Virginia, where we normally don't. And when your grass is covered in eight inches of snow, well, you know, you've got to start throwing hay. That's right. Hay went from 750 square bales. when Trump left office to $11.75. That's a lot of money when you're throwing 20 bales of hay a day to keep your sheep alive.
SPEAKER 18 :
And really quick, Daniel, think of the ranchers out there that are doing many times over that amount.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, those round bales, which are going for $150, used to be $90. And it's all energy. It's because I don't begrudge the guy who sold me the hay. He has to make money, too. But energy is everything. It's our food cost. It's our home heating bill cost. And if these executive orders can start to lower the cost of energy, Americans are going to feel it in their pocketbook. And it will happen. It's going to take a couple weeks, but it will happen.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, no, in fact, Daniel, and I talked about this earlier in the week, just the whole atmosphere around what he's doing, not even the things that he actually did through executive orders and what I feel he even get pushed through Congress and make some of these things permanent, but just the whole attitude around energy and And even just coming out right off the bat and saying, you know what, we're going to end it. We're going to end this EV mandate right off the bat. We're going to change the way solar works. You know, we're going to do things differently. And oh, by the way, some of these coal plants that a lot of you have, a lot of you out there have maybe online to be shut down. Guess what? We're reversing that as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and it's remarkable. And I noticed, you know, of all the global elite who are gathered at Davos at the World Economic Forum, where they're cutting their heads off alive chickens and doing all their other rituals there, you know, all of them would make fun of President Trump because of his stance on energy, fossil fuels, and also his disbelief in the climate hysteria. And yet he's the only one who appeared via Zoom, right? Everyone else took private jets. True. Good point. Private jets were used up 170% in Davos. All those idiots flew their own jet because they're not going to fly commercial. They don't care. What are they, poor? It's all lip service, Daniel.
SPEAKER 18 :
The Paris Climate Accord, getting us out of that. I mean, the trillions of dollars in savings there, which it's a fleecing of the American public, because at the end of the day, as you know, Daniel, if we don't participate in that, the reality is there's not enough money to make that thing even happen. And the fact of the matter is, even if we were to continue in that, again, all it does is cost us money while other countries like India, China and others continue to do whatever they want to do.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. And I was at a number of the Senate hearings for Trump's energy cabinet members, and the Democrats kept pushing this angle. What about the green energy race? What about the subsidies for wind and solar? And yet simultaneously, they marvel that worldwide coal use continues to go up. And I've always struggled with the logic that why do we have to shut down coal in America? But China's allowed to open more coal to make these stupid wind and solar that nobody wants that we have to then buy to make expensive electricity here in America. And we call it green. So it's just a whole bunch of nonsense.
SPEAKER 18 :
Which, as you know, because you're in this more than even I am, we have some of the cleanest coal in the entire world. That's why so many countries want what we have. Why don't we just use it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. We've made energy expensive here in America. We used to on average. pay around for more than a decade, we paid around 13 cents per kilowatt hour. We're now paying close to 18 on average. And that's a huge jump. And every American has seen their utility bill go higher. And after four years of Kamala Harris and a trillion dollars, literally a trillion dollars spent on the green economy, Kamala bragged about it during her debate with President Trump. Four years of trillion dollars. When would it have kicked in, John? I guess that's my question. When would we have start feeling these savings of wind and solar? When would it have all started to work? Germany's been doing it 25 years. Their economy is in complete economic recession. All of Europe is struggling. England's utility bills are at cataclysmic rates. When does the good part of going green eventually kick in?
SPEAKER 18 :
It doesn't. In fact, in my opinion, Daniel, it's a way for... Certain individuals and people groups in the belief system of to destroy countries from the inside out because it makes people poor. It's literally a transfer of wealth. And to your point, we've got to get back to where energy is cheap. We are literally one of the leaders when it comes to creating energy in all facets. There's no reason why as a country we are not using that.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, there's not. And, you know, I saw your senator, John Hickenlooper, who was on the Energy Committee, and he had a great exchange with Governor Doug Burgum about these things. Senator Hickenlooper is an oil and gas man. He knows the industry. I wish people like him had more leadership prominence among the Democrats in Congress because they have this belief that the fossil fuel industry is somehow bad, that the fossil fuel industry is doing damage, when in fact it's giving us prosperity, health. It's a wonderful industry, and we've punished it for four straight years. So the turnaround is going to be exceptional, and the American people are going to feel it, and they're going to remember it.
SPEAKER 18 :
I cannot disagree with anything that you're saying, and I always hate to bring TV and things like that into it, although, and I know that this particular TV series isn't accurate. I know that it's Hollywood, and they put a lot of things into it that aren't necessarily true, but the series Landman, if anybody out there hasn't watched it, and it's not for the faint of heart, nor is it for kids. You shouldn't be watching it with your children, Daniel, but the reason why I think people should watch it is because a lot of what... You know, surprisingly, a lot of what is said in that particular series is very true. And they say things like, you know, we've created, you know, our forefathers, if you would, you know, our great grandfathers created a world that's reliant upon petroleum products. And the reality is it's there. We use it. We have to have it. Let's stop demonizing it. And until something else comes along to replace it, we have to have it. It's that simple. Exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, it is. And that's why I called my organization Power the Future. Because I don't know what tomorrow's going to be. We may discover something. We may perfect wind and solar one day. Who knows? I'm not opposed to any of that. But the fact of the matter is we haven't done it yet. And we're punishing ourselves now, saying if we hurt ourselves now, maybe tomorrow will be better. And the geniuses who are going to create the perfect energy source... They are using fossil fuels. And by punishing us now, we're not going to have a better future. We're having a worse future, and Americans are experiencing that.
SPEAKER 18 :
And, Daniel, I can't argue with what you just said in regards to will we find something else on down the road that does what oil and gas and coal and those sorts of things, quote-unquote fossil fuels – I hate that term, by the way, but it is what it is – You know, the reality is we've got these natural – that's what I like calling them. We have these natural resources that are at our fingertips. If something else that is better, cheaper, faster, stronger comes along, yeah, I'm all in on using it. But to your point a moment ago, the reality is that doesn't exist. We're trying to force feed – Some of these things that frankly don't exist and are not as good. And I've said it for years, Daniel, anytime you try to force feed something into the system, it is a recipe for disaster. And it is.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is, and we saw this with government mandates and government money. Government money didn't make the EV sector create better EVs. Government money didn't get us more efficient solar panels and more efficient wind turbines. All it did was it forced it on the American people. And if you really wanted a great product, if you really wanted a great EV or a great wind turbine, you would force it to compete in the marketplace. And so these government subsidies of the Biden-Harris administration, which are now gone, but they didn't do any good to that product. All they did was allow an inferior product to exist where without government money and government breath, it would have died of its own recourse.
SPEAKER 18 :
Let me give you an example, and you can steal this and use it later if you'd like. It's much like when the iPhone came out. Steve Jobs had this grand vision. He wanted to take a lot of different devices, shrink them down into one. He then called it a smartphone or the iPhone, if you would. And it was the leader when it came to making that whole industry become what it even is today. And my point, Daniel, is he saw a need. He figured out a way to fill that need, and because he did, the yearning for it created the market for the product that, as we know, and you look back at the history of and even the other products that have spun off of that, the reality is most everybody today, no matter what part of the country or world you're in, has a quote-unquote smartphone. So my point with energy is exactly the same. There was something else that came along that was bigger and better and badder than coal, than oil, than natural gas, than Daniel. It would be very apparent. People would be clamoring for it. And it would supplant the other things, much like BlackBerry, by the way, which at that time was the leader. And the iPhone came along. And literally within a matter of about four to five years, it was no longer. And RIM went basically broke, if you would. And what we're doing with wind and solar is what could have happened. Luckily, it didn't. If government had gotten involved and said, oh, no, hang on, time out, time out. Yeah, we know this iPhone thing is better. But the reality is we want you guys using BlackBerry. So we're going to subsidize and give you credits and give you the ability to keep using that because we want to force that upon you, even though the market says I want an iPhone. That's what we've done in energy.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. And the Biden-Harris administration did this by telling the banks they couldn't lend to the fossil. Yes. Even one step further. Imagine if Steve Jobs couldn't have gotten financing for his iPhone. Imagine if they punished people who used iPhones and they required by law that you purchase Blackberry. Good point. We wouldn't have these great products. And that's what they've done. It's going to take some time to undo, but it will happen.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think it will as well, because I think, frankly, the reason why Donald Trump got elected, and I know some people may not like me saying this, but he didn't get elected because of who he is, because a lot of people love him, a lot of people don't. He got elected, Daniel, because of the very things you're talking about right now, because people realized, I'm broke, I'm spending way more money on things than I used to, this particular administration keeps promising me things that aren't being delivered on, and I want to change.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and I think the change is going to come. Look, we don't have a bad short-term memory problem.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, we don't.
SPEAKER 10 :
Americans do remember when eggs were $2 a dozen. They remember when chopped meat was affordable. They remember when your car was more affordable and housing mortgages. Right. Oil hasn't been below $60 a barrel in four years. It's great if you're in the energy industry, but it's terrible if you're the consumer. And I try to remind people all the time, the industry would much rather make their profit online on volume than on price point. It is better to have 15 wells at $50 a barrel than have 10 wells at $90 a barrel. You would much rather have more at a lower price point because it is actually more sustainable. So we've punished the volume by stopping oiling and gas access, drilling, etc. So the industry is going to rebound. We just need a little bit of time.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I'll close with this. I had predicted before Donald Trump took office that within 30 days of him taking office, we would see oil drop about $10 a barrel because before he took office, just a few days before, it was in the low 80s. It is now, today, right now, 74.28 and dropping. So, Daniel, I don't think my predictions are going to be too far off.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, and that's great for the American people and our economy and our future. So we've got a lot to be optimistic in.
SPEAKER 18 :
Daniel, always a joy having you. We think alike. I appreciate you joining us. Let folks know how they can find you.
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PowerTheFuture.com, and I love being on your program. Thank you, Daniel.
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SPEAKER 18 :
We are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 08 :
John, I wanted to chime in on the podcast. possibility of the SALT deductions being eliminated. I don't think that's going to happen because there's a tremendous amount of pressure going the other way, even supported by some Republicans in high-tax states.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, there's a lot of those that I mentioned earlier, Joe, that, you know, nice thought. Yes, there's savings, you know, potential savings there if you could ever get them passed, but there's a lot of those on there that aren't going to happen.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because states like New York, you know, I mean, solid blue states like New York and California, they have Republican congressmen. And those are the states where people are paying. Now, by the way, and the Democrats, they're a little schizophrenic because on one hand, yeah, yeah, yeah, because that punishes the big rich guys because, you know, they might have $50,000 in property taxes and $100,000 in state income taxes, and we're going to cap them at $10,000. But now it's hurting. By the way, John, I live in a fairly modest house in New Jersey, four-bedroom house, you know, three-quarters of an acre. It's nothing special. My property taxes alone are $17,000 in New Jersey. So it's hurting me. And you go in Connecticut, Massachusetts, Westchester, Westchester up in New York, Darien, Connecticut, Stanford, Connecticut. These people are all paying $20,000 a year in property taxes. So their elected representatives are under tremendous pressure to lift the cap or double the cap. And there's all sorts of proposals out there floating and make it $10,000 per filer, so if you're a husband and wife, it'd be $20,000 instead of $10,000. Others want to have it lifted. I think it's going to be a bargaining chip.
SPEAKER 18 :
For example, there's things on here, Joe, like eliminate the death tax, which would cost us $370 billion. That's a great thing. I would love it if it happened, because my feeling on that is people are getting double-taxed or triple-taxed in some cases, but the reality is, will that actually... And, again, there's a lot of things on here that they go through, and some of them I could really get behind. Some of them are probably, while they're great ideas, just not going to get passed. There's just too many people, like you talked about, Joe, that are there that just aren't going to allow it, period, not going to happen.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, if anything, if I had to bet money, I'm going to bet that you will see the current $10,000 cap on SALT deductions increased. If I had to bet one way, I'm willing to bet money it's going to go up. Now, whether they eliminate it or bump it to 15 or make it $10,000 per person on the tax return, I'm willing. And by the way, inflation alone, John, if you just look at the Trump tax plan has been in effect for seven years now. Well, guess what? $10,000 seven years ago is almost $20,000 today adjusted for inflation. So if I have to bet money, I don't think deductions for state and local taxes are going away. I think we're going to see that cap. raised substantially. That's just my two cents.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and, you know, there's a lot of things in this report that I didn't get a chance to get to yet from, you know, the energy side of things and things that we can do along those lines. Like I was just talking to, you know, Daniel about a few minutes ago to welfare things, you know, limiting SNAP benefits, you know, a work requirement for SNAP benefits, you know, all sorts of things along those lines, Joe, that as you and I both know, highly doubtful those things will make it through.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, even though, by the way, when people talk about the work requirement, it was a choice of either work 20 hours a week or participate in free state-sponsored job training or 20 hours a week of community service. And that only applies to able-bodied adults who are not caregivers. Now, you can't be any more reasonable than that, John.
SPEAKER 18 :
I know. I know. I mean, I look at some of these proposals to redo SNAP and some of what we have with welfare, and it's like, okay, this makes total sense. Why are we not doing these things? But yet we're not, and there are people out there that know exactly how to game the system that will, unless it's changed, Joe, will never get off SNAP.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and John, it's the Democrats are pandering to their voter base. That's all it is. They're pandering to the voter base.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep. And they allow this nonsense to keep going on. And by the way, Joe, it also negatively affects our workforce. And people talk about, you know, illegals coming in and working and so on. Well, yeah, because in some cases they will do things that that SNAP benefit because they're on the dole won't.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 18 :
Unfortunately, that's the way it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah. John, you're right. I mean, you're speaking the truth. But, you know, unfortunately, the people who need to hear it and act on it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, there are Republicans that I could speak to that wouldn't understand and or agree with what I just said.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, unfortunately, you're probably right. You're absolutely probably right.
SPEAKER 18 :
I hate to say that because they either have such a hardcore stance on the illegal side, which I do as well, and I don't want people coming in willy-nilly. I'd love a merit-based system. I think the whole thing needs to have a complete revamp. But I also know that as an employer, if you don't get some people off the dole, good luck on finding workers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's too easy not to work. I go back to Ben Franklin. who said, you know, poverty, that we have to provide for those who can't take care of themselves, but we should not make living in poverty comfortable.
SPEAKER 18 :
And, you know, in this day and age, Joe, we, unfortunately, we do. Section 8 housing, SNAP, I can go down the list, Joe, you know that as well as I. If you know how to work and game the system, you could literally live better than you are right now, Joe, and not lift a finger.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, and by the way, living in poverty in this country, John, is upper middle class in a lot of other countries.
SPEAKER 18 :
Or even above that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, running water, flush toilets... Central heat, central air, electricity, Internet, color TV. John, you're upper middle class in most parts of the world.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, I have visited parts of the world where they would love to have that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they would love to be living in poverty in this country.
SPEAKER 18 :
They would think they went to heaven. And I am not exaggerating when I say that. When you live in a country where there is no running water and you're going out every day to bring water back in, you know, four- and five-year-olds are running the sheep or the cattle herd. You know, the waste, you know, the sewer is literally running down the side of the road. I mean, Joe, these are people that, yeah, if they could end up in Section 8 housing, have SNAP benefits, be able to go down to the local store and buy whatever they want to with those benefits, they think they died and went to heaven.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, you and I have been there. I've been out in countries where the people at dinner time, you know, they're living in stone huts. I mean, if they're lucky, they have stone huts instead of a tin roof.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But they're living in a stone hut, and when it's time to come out for dinner, they come out and they build a little fire by the side of the road with a wok because you can't start a fire because there's no ventilation in the house. The house would fill with smoke. They literally cook their dinner inside. in a charcoal fire, in a walk over a charcoal fire by the side of the road, and when it's done, they bring it back into the house. That's how they cook dinner.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep. Yep. Joe, I have witnessed a lot of that in very poor countries around the world, from Haiti to Africa to other places, and everything you're talking about, absolutely true. We in this country, our poorest in this country, don't know how good they have it. Our homeless, Joe, don't know how good they have it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's true, too. Our homeless, by the way, are homeless. If they need medical care, if they have life threatening under federal law, they can walk into any hospital and they will be treated on the spot.
SPEAKER 18 :
And Joe, the people that we're talking about, if your baby's ill and you don't have the ability to get them to the hospital, which, by the way, means you might have to walk several miles or, you know, tens of miles to actually get them there. And if you don't have that ability, they die.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Yeah. No electric, you know, no phone. And by the way, And they don't even have telecommunications. They have no phone. They can't even call for help. If their baby is choking or something or has had a seizure, they can't even contact people to come to fly in or drive in to help them.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, most of them, that's why there's well projects and things like that that a lot of ministries and folks do around the world. Some of those folks are doing good to get clean water.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and you're right, John. I actually donate to a group. I'm trying to remember the name of the group. But one of their biggest things they do is they help sink wells in some of these little villages so they're not dipping water out of a polluted river.
SPEAKER 18 :
Which, by the way, is typically where the animals are, where they wash the trucks and the vehicles and everything else that happened at the same time, and they drink that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're right. They're drinking water that has parasites. By the way, that's why so many people in African countries And even Indian countries are drinking water with parasites in it, and they wind up with tapeworms in their gut, but parasites in their guts. And by the way, they migrate into their eyes, and they affect their vision.
SPEAKER 18 :
And Joe, and by the way, what I'm saying, and for a lot of you listening, you understand this fully, it's why we have the situation with people wanting to come to this country, and even as an illegal immigrant, end up with some of the things, Joe, that you and I are talking about. It's also why I believe, you know, Joe Biden had an open border policy because he knew those people would come if you did. And it's a way to change literally the face of America. And that's exactly what this last party or that party has tried to do during these last four years. And fortunately, Donald Trump has, at least for now, closed those up.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, John, let me ask you a question. If you had a choice between spending a year in Douglas County Prison or spending a year in El Salvador in a... Give me the prison, Joe. You would take Douglas County Prison over a patched hut in El Salvador, drinking polluted water out of a river any day of the week, right?
SPEAKER 18 :
And not knowing if your life's going to be there next week or not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, because of the— Everything.
SPEAKER 18 :
Everything that you're surrounded by. Not only, Joe, the medical and what you're eating and drinking and all of that, but just the gang, the gang violence, all the different things that are going on. Yeah, put me in jail.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, life is cheap. In countries like Guatemala and El Salvador, life is cheap, and you may not be alive tomorrow. So, yeah, I would take—if I was in one of those countries, I would take a year in Douglas County Jail. You know, six days a week and twice on Sunday.
SPEAKER 18 :
And, Joe, while my heart goes out to all those individuals, and there's millions, billions of them, literally billions of them around the world. And, yes, my heart goes out to them. Why was I allowed to be born in this country while they weren't? Joe, that's above my pay grade. I can't answer that question. But what I do know is... You have to keep the border closed. You've got to have some sort of a merit system whereby if those people want in, what are they bringing to the table? Because I don't just want anyone coming in. I want to know exactly who they are. What are they going to do to help our country grow when it's all said and done? I am not against immigration if done correctly, but open borders. And Donald Trump, fortunately, on Monday stopped them. You know, we can't have that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, we can't. And by the way, the liberals are trying to play a poll. Who's going to pick our voters? Who's going to pick our tomatoes and who's going to, you know, clean our carrots and other? John, we have work visas. You want to come in and you want to come in to work the crops, migrant? You know, we have work visas.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, two things, by the way, and I'm glad you said that because there's two things that I always want to respond when it comes to that. A, you're right. We have the ability to bring people and do the things that are necessary along those lines. On the same token, hear me out on this, and I think you of all people would understand this as much as anyone. If you don't, and if push comes to shove, this is where technology, AI, and some of the things that we now have literally at our doorstep can come in, because you and I both know that what a big farm does today is... is far greater than they ever could have done prior with people actually working the fields. And if given, you know, again, if push comes to shove, they will develop the technology to do the things that labor is doing today. The problem, Joe, is when you don't have to, you don't.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Necessities, mother of invention. And, John, I grew up on a farm. You know, my grandparents raised apples and potatoes. I was watching this modern Marvel show the other day. Do you know there's some machines now? John, that harvest potatoes, now potatoes grow underground.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep, I've seen the machine in action. Absolutely. It's amazing.
SPEAKER 08 :
If you would have said, and I'm an engineer, you would have said, well, design a machine that's going to dig up potatoes and harvest them and separate them from the root system. I was just stunned.
SPEAKER 18 :
It does it all in one machine. It's amazing.
SPEAKER 08 :
One machine. It comes along and digs them up. It doesn't bruise them.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, some of these machines that we use, it's absolutely fascinating.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they now have machines that shake the nut trees and the fruit trees. That's right. And they've got the big nets, like circus nets. They get all done in one machine. Right. It literally shakes the tree and the stuff falls off.
SPEAKER 18 :
So my point, and I come back to a lot of those liberals that would say that, would be, you know what? To your point, necessity is the mother of invention. When push comes to shove, believe me, we'll figure that out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Now, we'll always need some – well, let's look at the auto industry, John. I mean, right now I think there's a million robots, each robot's doing the work of seven workers. If we didn't have robots, our auto industry would be out of business today.
SPEAKER 18 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because – All of the international competitors are doing that. So thank God we have a million. So a million robots are doing the work of 7 million humans in the auto industry. And people say, well, look how many U.S. workers they put out of business. Well, if you didn't have them, we wouldn't have any. You wouldn't be doing it. You wouldn't have any auto workers.
SPEAKER 18 :
Which, by the way, people forget last year General Motors here in America was the leading seller of vehicles in the United States of America, which they haven't done for a long time, proving your point, Joe.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Oh, and going back, I grew up in a telephone family. My grandfather and father both worked for the phone company. Do you know back when the rotary dial phone company was first invented, the telephone communications workers fought the introduction of the rotary dial phone? Yeah, because they thought they were going to lose their jobs. They thought they were going to put the switchboard operators with the plugs. That's right. You'd pick up the phone.
SPEAKER 18 :
Mary Jo wasn't going to have a job anymore.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and my grandmother still had this phone. She was on a rural line. You literally didn't have a dial. You'd pick up the thing. Click the receiver a few times. Right, and then the operator, yes, ma'am, yeah, can you connect me to so-and-so? So this phone number, and she and her central office would pull some plugs and stick you, and literally her phone didn't have a dial. Yep.
SPEAKER 18 :
Modern technology, and look where we are today, Joe.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and look at how many millions of people are employed in it. tens of millions of people employed in the telecommunications industry.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's right. Far more than they were then.
SPEAKER 08 :
Far more than they were then.
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All right, after nearly 61 years, Donald Trump announced just this afternoon, I saw it right before coming on air, that he is going to release the files on the assassination of John F. Kennedy Jr. He's going to declassify those also on Martin Luther King Jr., which why that hasn't been up till now is beyond me. Charlie wants UFOs next. Trump said this is a big one. He signed the order to make that happen. Lots of people have been waiting for this one for years, for decades, and everything will be revealed. Now, I have no idea what we're going to learn from this. This will be big news. Trust me, when this comes out, it will be big news. There's speculation, and a lot of people feel like it's the CIA that were involved in probably both of those. And in fact, if that's the case, of course, it will put there's already distrust inside government as is. That'll do nothing but feed that even more. And maybe that maybe Donald Trump understands that, knows all the repercussions, understands what may happen after that. Some of the revamping that you potentially could then, you know, dovetail into. Honestly, I don't know, folks. I don't know what's in those at all. But it's interesting that he is finally releasing those. Dave, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, John. Hey, I just wanted to expand a little bit about what you guys were just talking about, you and Joe. You know, what gets me is that how the Democrats seem to stage them and nobody holds a mirror up to them when they say, well, who's going to pick our crops or who's going to scrub our toilets and everything else? So what they're asking for is a permanent underclass, a permanent slave class that's working at the low wage level, because that's what they don't want to do. They don't want to pay a living wage themselves. And so that's what they're saying. We want to import more slaves. Why isn't people pointing out that hypocrisy of theirs.
SPEAKER 18 :
To your point, Dave, they literally want that quote-unquote slave labor. They are not willing to really even pay those individuals what they're worth. They like that quote-unquote cheap labor. And by the way, I think there's some Republicans, Dave, that fit into that as well. I don't want to say that one's a blanket statement on just the Democrat side, although, by and large, it's more Democrats that feel that way than Republicans for sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
And it's the Democrats who immediately point that out, you know, that, well, who's going to do this? And my counter to that also would be, well, guess what? Before all these illegal aliens started coming in here, there were Americans who were doing those jobs. And the problem that I have with that, and I think you pointed it out before, is, you know, starting in the late 70s, 80s, right then, we really started in this country to push people in school to say, you need to go to college. Well, the thing is that, no, you don't. There are plenty, and you're one of them, plenty of successful people who become giant successes without ever stepping foot on a college campus.
SPEAKER 18 :
True.
SPEAKER 09 :
as opposed to most people who went to college and now are asking for loan forgiveness of hundreds of thousands of dollars because they've got a worthless degree.
SPEAKER 18 :
Very true, Dave. Very, very true. And by the way, too, I got to thinking about this as Joe was talking, even on, okay, you've got to clean hotel rooms and bathrooms and offices and things along those lines. Well, Dave, I also know that as we continue to make advancements, and yes, there will always need to be some physical labor and some of the things that you and I are talking about. But as these robots, even the Elon Musk and stuff, are working on as we speak, as more of that comes around, and believe me, it will, AI and so on, when you can get machines – to come in and do some of the very things that we're now requiring humans to do, and maybe all a human has to do is supervise what these machines are actually doing, you don't need as many of those people any longer. And trust me, Dave, that day is coming.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, it is. And I'll tell you what, all we've got to do is look at the basic thing that the majority of people have right now, myself included, which is a robotic vacuum.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
I set it to clean at a certain time of the day, and it turns around and it vacuums the whole house without me having to lift a finger.
SPEAKER 18 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'd also like to bring up, you know, when I was in Europe several years back, seven, eight years ago, public restroom in Paris, France, you go in, you use the restroom, it closes behind you. When you leave, it closes, and then it cleans itself. It scrubs itself.
SPEAKER 1 :
They've
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Yeah. And my point, Dave, on that, and as you know, and Joe knows, as I said earlier, when there's more of a need because you can't find all the people that you need to fill some of these other roles, we will devise things like that or use things that are already existing or perfect some of these things that are already existing. And by the way. that creates a whole other economy of scale because now you're going to be going in and retrofitting, you know, toilets and things along those lines to where you put, you know, we had the invention of self-cleaning ovens way back in the day. Well, we will get to a point where there will be self-cleaning toilets as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. And, you know, it's one of those things where another thing that people got to realize is, sure, they may come in as field workers. They may come in as nannies or maids or whatever else. But I'll tell you this, they're not going to stay there. Because they want exactly what every other American wants, which is to advance. And so they're going to leave those jobs within two to three years, on average. That's what the statistic is. They'll leave those jobs, and they'll go off to something that's better paying, higher paying, and now... Those middle class jobs are going to be threatened because there's going to be people who come in from other countries. I mean, the Democrats are trying to do that with certifications. They want to be able to bring in people who said, well, I'm certified in my country as an engineer or as a nurse or as a doctor or as this or that, a pilot. And they're going to say, well, we're going to accept that certification without you having to recertify here in the States. I mean, that's just madness. We've got different. I agree. We have different standards. Requirements.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Different.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. No, Dave, good stuff. And again, yeah, I'm with you. And as we talked even with Joe, as the need comes up, and this would be my argument back to the lefties, as the need arises and we have to do things differently because of a lack of or an opportunity of, that's what we as Americans have done previously. For years, we want to get that back. We want these new inventions. We want to see things done along those lines. Because, no offense, Dave, at the end of the day, we want to see people lifted up and, frankly, not having to do those jobs and find something better in the economy to do instead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. That was the whole purpose behind, you know, everybody working a minimum wage job. Hey, this is just to get you going.
SPEAKER 18 :
To jumpstart.
SPEAKER 09 :
To come to work on time. Yeah, it was to train you for the working world. You were never meant to stay there forever.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, there's plenty of, like Joe pointed out, there's plenty of us who grew up with relatives who, grandparents or whoever, who had a farm and you went out and you helped and everything else and you realized, either I like this kind of work and this is something I want to do or... This is a little something I probably don't, I'm not good at, and I probably should go and do something else.
SPEAKER 18 :
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All right, wrapping things up on this Thursday. Again, tomorrow, don't forget, we always have movies. Andy's got some great ones. Let me go look at those really quick because I don't memorize those. So tomorrow we have Inheritance and Flight Risk. Both of them look pretty good. I don't know whether they will be or not. We'll find out from Andy tomorrow, of course. And then the second hour we'll do movies with spies. So spy movies is what's going to be second hour. Okay, one thing before we end today's program that I wanted to get in here is Trumps. Warning to FEMA literally telling them you haven't done your job. And we knew this was coming because, frankly, they haven't. And Trump, in this particular article, I think he did an interview with Sean Hannity, and basically talks about how, you know, when I was running things, I had FEMA rolling along. You know, we had issues that came up in different parts of the country, hurricanes in Florida, Alabama tornadoes, and we did really well at coming in as a response and taking care of things quickly and got things back on track. gone away in this particular administration. So he's basically putting FEMA on notice that, hey, changes are going to be made. And I think what he's really trying to say is, if you are part of this regime that hasn't done things correctly and you have added politics into what you should be doing in your job as somebody that works for FEMA, you probably aren't going to be around any longer. I think the biggest thing Donald Trump has to figure out next, and I know he's working on this, is how do you fire federal workers? Because, by the way, that's not easily done. I've been following somebody on social media that talks about that and the fact that that's easier said than done. So that's going to be interesting in the next few weeks here to see exactly how Trump and his advisers figure out ways to eliminate certain federal workers that, frankly, refuse to do their job without having politics involved. All right, that's it for today. Join us again tomorrow. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Luke is doing his best to get Phil Kirpin with us, but sometimes Phil has things that come up. We've had Phil on in the past many times. Before he does that or before we get him on, let's do the question of the day. Yesterday, which novel published in 1818 is considered the first true science fiction novel? And who authored it? It would be Frankenstein or the modern... Prometheus by Mary Shelley is regarded as the first true science fiction novel. Today's question of the day, what is the largest volcano in the solar system, and on which planet is it located? So again, question of the day today, what is the largest volcano in the solar system? And on which planet is it located? And you can always find our question of the day. Typically, they're on our Facebook page. You can go there and find them on pretty much a daily basis. You can answer questions there and interact with others that do the same. So with that, Phil Kirpin joining us now. Phil, welcome. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm doing great. President of American Commitment. So how do you feel this week has gone so far with President Trump?
SPEAKER 06 :
you know, I've been really, really happy with the number of early executive actions and with the quality of them. I think they're, you know, it's night and day difference to his first term in terms of how prepared he was and how many things he had ready to go. I mean, we just got yesterday the total gutting of racial preferences dating back to the Lyndon Johnson administration. We got all of the Energy executive orders we were expecting. We got all the border executive orders we were expecting. And, you know, some other things that were a little, you know, that we weren't necessarily expecting, like pulling out of the OECD tax cartel, reversing the Paris Climate Treaty again. It's a very impressive list. And I've got a lot of optimism. Really, I think we've got all the ingredients. for a really robust return to prosperity. Everything that can be done in the executive branch, I think, is being done. The key question is just, you know, can they get the tax bill through Congress? Because that's the one thing he really can't do on his own. And so that's the big unknown, but I've been very happy with the early action.
SPEAKER 14 :
Anything that you haven't seen happen that you would have liked to have seen?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, yeah, probably. I mean, I could come up with some... With some granular specifics in terms of regulations I'd like to see reversed and things I'd like done on doing some of the student loan giveaways. Agency by agency, I could find some things. But in terms of top priorities, it's on a good track.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, and I agree. I mean, I, like you, could probably run through and, you know, find some small things here and there. I shouldn't say small, large things here and there that you could actually attack. I do think also in the last hour we talked about this a little bit. I think some things he still has planned. But in my opinion, Phil, he's waiting for some, you know, head department heads to be confirmed so that he and they can make, you know, really hit the ground running, make some of those announcements together, if you would. And I think there's some things that he's just waiting for that on. That's my opinion.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, probably. I mean, I think, you know, the racial preferences executive order was a day two instead of a day one. I'm sure he's got, you know, he's got probably one big thing planned every day for the next couple of weeks, you know, the way he thinks. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's some more big ones still in, you know, kind of the on-ramp. And I agree with you also, you know, all he can really do so far is issue executive orders directing agencies to do things. He's not going to really be able to you know, have things implemented and big things done and Biden things reversed and so forth until he has his team in place. And he's got almost nobody in so far. I mean, he's got Rubio, but that's about it so far. It's incredible how the Democrats are going to extraordinary lengths to delay him having a defense secretary, and they're being very petty about him getting his team in place.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. The other thing, too, that we knew was going to happen, I think it was part of Trump's overall plan, was the birthright citizenship. He wants that to go to the Supreme Court. That's where it needs to end up to get a final call on that particular end of things. And frankly, and maybe I'm wrong in this, Phil, but... I think any constitutionalist could look back at what our founding fathers wanted, and I don't think any of them, and I'm pretty confident in this, I don't think any of them wanted somebody to just be born here and then be a U.S. citizen. I think they knew full well what they wanted to have happen there, and we, of course, have conscrued that and really messed it up, if you would. And maybe I'm wrong and maybe it's wishful thinking, but I think we've got enough Supreme Court justices that would look at it the way I am.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, don't get your hopes up too high on that one, because I think that Roberts and Kavanaugh are going to be looking for something to break with Trump on. And, you know, he Roberts is all about the court's perception and all this kind of stuff. And I don't know. I just have a hunch that that's the one that's the one they're going to go against him on. But I think you're right in terms of the history of the 14th Amendment. I don't think subject to the jurisdiction thereof only meant like the children of diplomats. I think it was brought in that. But that said, I don't. You know, Roberts and Kavanaugh don't have my full confidence on that one.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you know, I can't disagree with you on those two, Roberts especially. You know, Kavanaugh, I'm not sure. Roberts, yeah, he sort of flies with the wind in whatever that direction happens to be going at that particular time, if you ask me, is kind of what he is. Basically, what works best for him at that time is how he looks at it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, he likes to balance. You know, he likes to throw a couple in this direction and then a couple in the other direction. Yeah. I feel like he's going to be, on that one, he's going to be trying to convince, you know, Kavanaugh or Coney Barrett. He's going to try to put together a majority against Trump on that one. I just have a feeling. But I could be wrong.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what? We'll see. How do folks find you, Phil?
SPEAKER 06 :
AmericanCommitment.org is the website, and I'm also a little bit of an ex-addict. It's my last name, Kirpin, K-E-R-P-E-N.
SPEAKER 14 :
Awesome. As always, Phil, appreciate you joining us. All right, have a good one. You bet. Have a great night. Phil Kirpin again, American Commitment. Always enjoy having him on. Smart guy and literally just lays it out there. I like that about Phil and doesn't mince any words, and I appreciate that greatly. All right, I'm going to talk when we come back about the Ways and Means Report on a lot of things that – if some of these things even make it through, would save us as taxpayers a boatload of money. We'll talk about that here in just a minute. High-five plumbing and electrical is coming up next. Any plumbing problems at all, and that includes electrical because they do that as well, 877-WE-HIGH-5.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. So this is something that came out this afternoon. There's been a few commentaries on this, mostly, of course, from folks on the left. And there's no way I'll be able to go through all... 50 pages of this, and there's a lot on each page, but I'm going to do my best to try to hit some of the highlights. And we were talking to Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House in the first hour about some of the things regarding, you know, Medicare, Medicaid, some things along those lines. And so I'm not going to go through much of that because there's an entire section just dealing with and drug policies and Obamacare and et cetera. So that's one of those things where I would highly suggest you go out and download this for yourself and read through some of those. But there's lots of things in here. And I'll hit a few highlights. So, for example, repeal Title I of IRA, excluding 45Q carbon sequestrian, 45U nuclear power, 45Z clean fuels, and the EV tax credit. And this saves us as taxpayers $404 billion in 10 years. So it streamlines and reduces government intervention in the energy industry that props up green energy and distorts market competition. So that, by the way, is something I do think you'll see Donald Trump and this particular House and maybe the Senate. The Senate's always going to be the toughest one. Remember that. Even if you get something through the House, the Senate's going to be the next tough one when it comes to some of these things. But again, $404 billion over. Ten years closing the EV credit leasing loophole. That's a 50 billion savings in 10 years repealing the green energy tax credits. That's a seven hundred and ninety six billion dollar savings over 10 years. So almost a trillion dollars in seven years, a three quarter of a billion or three quarter of a trillion dollars over 10 years. And the employee retention tax credit, that's something that a lot of employers have taken. And the reality is if they ended that as of January 31st, it would save about $75 billion over the next 10 years. This is something that I already thought was required. And I didn't know that it wasn't. But if you're taking a child tax credit – I always thought you had to have a Social Security number for that child to be able to take the credit. Evidently not. Because I guess there's a lot of folks that take a child tax credit without putting in the child's Social Security number because this one, if we did, this would save us $27 billion in 10 years. So evidently there's a lot of people that claim kids that might not be kids May not be legit. People still claim them. Nobody goes back and checks, I guess, because right now we don't require a Social Security number for the child tax credit. And some of these, by the way, I'm sure you guys listening are probably thinking the same thing I am. Well, I thought that was already there. Again, evidently not. Or this wouldn't be in this particular finding by the Ways and Means Committee. There's all sorts of things on here about endowments and universities and keeping them accountable and so on. And there's also a repeal. This is a big one. And this would affect all of us. And this is one where, you know, in some cases... you know, we all have to suck it up, I guess you could say. This is a repeal of the SALT deduction. In other words, all of us have the ability on our taxes to deduct individual business, state, and local taxes. So if you pay your property taxes, that's a deduction. If you paid income taxes, that's a deduction off your federal. And so if they repealed that, That's a $1 trillion savings over the next 10 years. $1 trillion over the next 10 years. And by the way, as a taxpayer myself, if that were to happen and that takes a trillion dollars off of our debt, knowing what that does for my kids and grandkids on down the road, yeah, I'm in. I would have no problem doing that at all. Bill and Lakewood, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, remember I told you I was going to have veterans do the window, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
They just got done today. Five cars. Oh, nice. You know, I can't complain. They did a good job. You know, a little hard connecting, but, you know, with the weather and stuff kind of screwed everything up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I feel for you. That's like the worst time of the year you could ever do windows and doors. So, you know, good job on getting it done.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is. I don't know why I would do it, but the window happened to break. We had no choice. The one that was in there. And that was a guaranteed forever window. And you know what the company told me? They told me if anybody calls up and says they're going to sue them, hang up on them. That's what they told the secretary. Not veterans.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. No, the other guys. Got it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Down in Littleton. And it just... That whole story was a disaster.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I'm glad Dave got you taken care of.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, everything went good, though.
SPEAKER 14 :
Very good. Very good. Bill, I appreciate the update. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Again, Veteran Windows and Doors, I talked about them in the last hour. I'll talk about them again here coming up. And, yeah, they do a great job, and there's a great deal right now on Windows and Doors. Okay, when it comes to the Ways and Means Report, this one is a big one. And this is going to ruffle a lot of feathers, especially those that own homes. Now, it won't ruffle everybody's feather because not everybody does this. With the Trump tax cuts that happened during his first term, a lot of people don't deduct their interest on their home any longer. They get a straight deduction. Most people do an easy form, do a straight deduction, off they go. They don't even fill out the mortgage deduction. So you have to be an itemized deductor, quote-unquote, to be able to even take that in the first place, and not everybody does. But this is a proposal. Again, these are all just conversation pieces. None of these are set in stone. A lot of these will never take place, unfortunately. But they say that if you eliminate the home mortgage interest deduction over 10 years, it's another trillion dollars. So just like the last one, it's another trillion. Two trillion in 10 years. So my thought is... They – this is me talking, not them, not anybody else. The interest deduction, I believe, still encourages people to own homes. It's not the only reason people own homes. They still want to gain equity. They don't want to put money in the landlord's pocket. They want to put it in their own, so on and so forth. But there is some incentive with the interest side. If you itemize – and I understand not everybody does – But what I feel needs to happen is they need to revamp that end of things. I don't think people should be able to get that straight across the board deduction. People should go back to itemizing if they really want to have those deductions. I understand the whole idea was to give everybody a deduction, save money on taxes. It actually, despite what the left tells you, Saved the lower income folks way more money than it did the upper income. That is the exact opposite narrative of what the left will tell you. Their talking point is only the rich benefited from that. Frankly, that is a complete flat-out lie because that is not true at all. The numbers and the data show otherwise. A lot of people saved money and or became net tax receivers, not taxpayers. And some of that is because of the things I'm talking about right now. So I'm one that says that part needs revamped. They should do away with the straight deduction. If you've got interest on your mortgage and so on, OK, fine. We'll let you deduct that and you won't itemize some other things. So be it. But the straight line deduction, in my opinion, should go away. Again, that's going to ruffle feathers because that's going to mean some people pay more in taxes than they have been. Because when Trump enacted his tax cuts, they literally had a tax cut. while others ended up paying more in taxes, typically those that are wealthier and are itemizing and doing some of the things that I'm talking about right now. This is a really deep discussion. I don't want to spend a lot of time on it. Everybody's going to have their own feeling on that. There was also talk of just lowering the whole cap on mortgage interest and what you actually can deduct. They want to eliminate – this is a suggestion, again, from the Ways and Means Committee – That's a $260 billion savings in 10 years. All sorts of other things when it comes to the financial end of things. This is another one that's going to ruffle feathers. Probably won't ever happen. If you eliminate head of household filing status, meaning you're not married, you are head of household, maybe you're a single dad, single mom, and you file as head of household, if they eliminate that and go back to either you're married or not, And they just do away with the head of household section, $192 billion in savings in 10 years. Now, again, that's going to be a tough one to get past, although I'm guessing that one's a lot like the tax credit for kids that I mentioned earlier, where I always thought you had to have a Social Security number, but evidently you don't. My gut feeling is this elimination of head of household is probably more of a cleanup of people that are double-dipping. Because I'm guessing what's happening in a lot of cases, two people get divorced, they've got kids, both claim head of household. Even though that's not really the way it's supposed to work, they are, and they're getting bigger deductions for being head of household rather than just being single. So my feeling on this is this is probably a way to eliminate some of the quote-unquote double-dipping that's going on. Again, I don't know anybody. I'm not pointing the finger at anybody. I don't know for sure that that's the case, but that's my guess. There's lots of things regarding the income end of things in this particular Ways and Means Report. For example, they want to end treatment of meals and lodging outside of the military. A lot of businesses, by the way, deduct those things. That's $87 billion in a 10-year savings. They want to eliminate charitable contributions to health organizations. It's $83 billion in 10 years. They want to eliminate credit for child and dependent care. This is another one that probably won't get passed. Highly doubtful. Fifty five billion in 10 years. And they go into some other things about transportation and et cetera. And, you know, on site gyms for employers and so on. There's all sorts of things in the tax code that benefits certain individuals or people groups, if you would. Right. One of these, though, for example, and there's unknown savings here that's attributed to it because we don't know because it hasn't been done yet. One suggestion is, and we've talked about this on this program many, many times, increase electric vehicle fees. In other words, they don't pay anything into the highway trust fund because they're not buying fuel. So how do you get electric vehicles, EVs, to pay their own way? Well, there's a suggestion that they do. How much would that bring in and save taxpayers money when it's all said and done? They don't know. Now, I don't know why they don't know. 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SPEAKER 14 :
And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dan and Blackhawk, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 08 :
Not much. So a lot of these proposals, if they would incorporate AI and stuff, they could probably not eliminate them but increase the tax revenue because there's a lot of people that are dishonest, for example, head of household. There are certain rules that have to be followed in order to claim that status. And it's to help the single moms that have two kids, three kids, one kid or whatever. It gives them more of a tax break so that they can Feed the kids.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, right. And really quick, Dan, in some cases it's no fault of their own. Dad, whatever, either left, could have died, anything along those lines. And again, as I said earlier, these are suggestions coming out of Ways and Means and I'd have to go through each one of these and really look at them to determine am I even for that or against that. And as you know, Dan, there's a lot of these that would have so much pushback that good luck on getting them passed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the mortgage interest thing, that encourages people. I mean, I'm not rich by any means. Unfortunately, for the events that have occurred to me last year, I'm now going to be able to deduct mortgage interest because I had to refinance my house.
SPEAKER 14 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 08 :
And so I had to buy somebody out. So I'll be able to itemize deductions. And that's because my mortgage interest is going up significantly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that's going to help me because of my current financial situation, and I'm not rich by any means.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and typically in the past, Dan, as you know, and you're an accountant, you understand this as well as anyone, that was an encouragement to a lot of individuals that were thinking about, you know, I'm renting now. I'd like to buy a house. Where's my pros and cons? Well, one of the pros was you could deduct money. Now, I understand, as I said earlier, with Trump's tax cuts and some of the things that he did, a lot of people don't itemize anymore. They just do the straight deductions, and you know as much about that as I do, because I don't know what the percentage is of people actually itemizing now versus just doing the straight deductions. You might know that figure better than I. I don't know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, no, I'd have to go on the website, IRS website, get that number. But what it did is it simplified the tax return for a lot of people. you know and um the thing is is that there's people that abuse that too so it's it's one million on home acquisition debt that you're able to deduct the mortgage interest on so the the the left that says that the rich don't pay much taxes uh for example the people out in california that lost their two three million dollar homes right they're only able to deduct the interest on a million of that and that's home acquisition debt or debt to improve your home, and what they did is a lot of people were going out buying cars or personal vacations or whatever and deducting and doing second lines of credit, home equity lines of credit, and deducting that system. So they got smart and eliminated that. Like you said, it's to encourage people to purchase homes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Now, really quick, I did look it up while you were talking, and I thought it would be higher than this. I'm actually kind of shocked. In 2020, could be a little different today, Dan, although you probably see the trends. In 2020, only 10% itemized. Yep. That's it.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I'm going to be part of that 10% this year.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good for you. It's all right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, to a certain degree. And then the child tax credit thing with the Social Security. That's news to me because the reason why is my tax program that I use will not let me get a tax credit. It requires it, right? Right. It requires me to have a Social Security. But I didn't know that that was in there. I didn't know otherwise.
SPEAKER 14 :
I guess in a way, I don't know in your software if you can override that, but evidently it can be or that wouldn't be a recommendation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I wouldn't do it because I'm not going to put my neck out there to have somebody lie on a tax return.
SPEAKER 14 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 08 :
And if I only know that somebody is violating tax law, I can lose my license, and I'm not going to do that.
SPEAKER 14 :
So evidently, Dan, this has to be coming from people that are doing their own, you know, I don't know, TurboTax or whatever that are essentially lying because that's essentially – I mean, I shouldn't say that. Maybe they get – maybe they've legitimately had a kid. They didn't get a Social Security number. It comes a little late or something along those lines, although the way this proposal is would make it sound like that's not the case.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I don't know. That was just news to me when you said that, so – So anyway, there's a lot more. Let me ask you real quick. I didn't follow it real quick, but didn't New York take Trump to court because of something to do with taxes?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, they took him to court over the evaluation of his real estate holdings when he was going to apply for loans at banks and so on. They accused him of fraud by overvaluing his properties. Even though the banks did their own appraisals and agreed to the terms, the terms were all met, he paid the loans off, nobody got hurt, yet they still came after him criminally.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then if that was a falsification of records on the New York tax return... the IRS would look into that too.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, as you know, those are two different things. So when a person buys a property... And that's your basis for what you're going to now do with depreciation and so on. As you know, Dan, that is one side of the equation. But what you do on a loan app and what you now claim your property is worth, because by the way, that property could have been bought 10 years ago at X price. There's been X amount of appreciation over the past 10 years. You're definitely going to have a higher evaluation today. on what you do and apply for a mortgage and so on than what it was on your original tax return and what the basis for your depreciation is figured off of. So, as you know, not one and the same.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so that occurred with me personally, even though I can't deduct depreciation. I built the home. So when I built the home back in 2001, we built it for $100,000. And when I had to refinance it last year, it went up to six, I don't know, six something. Good job. 570 to six something.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
And so my basis in the house now is higher because I had to refinance. That changed my position on the house on my basis.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, it didn't.
SPEAKER 08 :
My basis was $100,000. No, it did.
SPEAKER 14 :
Not on the tax. If you look at it, and again, this is your world more than mine, but the way I understand it, if your original investment was $100, you can take additional upgrades and things that you've done, certain remodels and so on, can add to your original basis so that down the road... If you sell that as a single taxpayer, so the way it works is if you're single filing single, you get a $250,000 capital gain sort of washout, or $500,000 if you're married. The basis can be added to, so that $100,000, let's say you put another $100,000 in the house to do upgrades and so on, your basis is now $200,000. That has nothing to do with how much you owe.
SPEAKER 08 :
What I'm saying is the valuation of the house changed. You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 14 :
That part I'm understanding. Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. So it was valued at $100,000. Now it's valued at $600,000.
SPEAKER 14 :
Meaning you're at that $500,000 cap if you're married filing jointly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
If you sold it for that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. If I sold it for it, but my valuation and then my basis would have went up. There you go. See, I had to refinance. So it's basically I sold it. I had to sell it, and then I repurchased it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah, that one. Yes, yes, yes. In that case, your basis changes absolutely because there's a sale involved. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Right, exactly. And that's probably what happened with Trump, isn't it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, no, I think in Trump's case, it's more of what I explained to begin with, where you buy a piece of property, and it's X amount of money. And by the way, that's what you're going to put on your tax return. That's what your basis for your depreciation starts with, which, as you know, you can't depreciate land. All you can depreciate is the building, and that's all... done by you guys on the accounting side to figure out what's what. Anyways, that's where that all starts. But when you go out down the road and either try to refinance that or he's wanting to pull money out to maybe go buy another building or whatever the case may be, and let's say for round numbers he paid $10 million for the piece of property, but 10 years later it's worth $15 million, which, by the way, I'm probably not exaggerating with some of the properties that he owns. So there's that $5 million upside now that he can go borrow against. And where New York came in and said, you know, you're a big fat liar is, you know, Trump says it's worth 15. Maybe New York says, no, really, it was only worth 14. Keep in mind, the bank always goes and does its own appraisals. In fact, that big of a building, they're probably getting two appraisals and comparing the two. The bank's only going to loan money off of what they feel a good solid appraisal from their appraisers are. It doesn't matter what Trump even says at the end of the day. They're doing their own evaluation. They're loaning money based upon that evaluation. And in the case of Trump, he paid all of that off, and no one got hurt, and yet somehow Alvin Bragg felt like he should still go after him for fraud.
SPEAKER 08 :
And conviction of a felony, right? Bunch of crap, by the way.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, fraud that turned into felony, and it's a load of crap. Totally.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree with you, because the banks are going to, I mean, what, did they throw out the bank's valuation during this case?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, here's the thing, Dan, and this is where a lot of folks like myself are really upset. The reality is because the judge was so tainted, they didn't even allow a lot of the straight factual evidence into the case. So I can't even answer that question, Dan, because who knows what they did. It was a kangaroo court.
SPEAKER 08 :
So they just... Yeah, so they basically got their own evaluators that were probably hated Trump, too.
SPEAKER 14 :
Probably.
SPEAKER 08 :
And said, oh, no, this is what it should have been. Correct. And, of course, they won't release the court documents, because then that would probably be shredded in a normal... court of law that's saying your evidence is not valid.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, and I've said this numerous times, Dan, Donald Trump didn't do anything different than any other commercial property owner out there that goes and leverages that property to either buy another property, to fix it up, to do whatever they're trying to do. The reality is when they go borrow money on that, the property owner is always going to evaluate that one higher than what probably the bank or the appraiser does, because that's how it works. That's what you do.
SPEAKER 08 :
And So this is so where is it? Is it did it go to the Supreme Court or not or what?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't think I think they were you know, that was all in the process of appeals and so on. And then, of course, he got elected and most of those are now going to, you know, go away. I think Donald Trump wanted to that wanted that to appeal and go higher up because it was such a kangaroo court. The way they determine that stuff on the front side, to your point a moment ago that, yeah, I think he really wanted that to go to appeal so he could prove it. But I don't think that's going to happen now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because most people don't understand what we just talked about.
SPEAKER 14 :
They do not understand what we just talked about. What we just talked about involves, you know, on the same token, Dan, they should understand. Because here's another comparison. A lot of people want to go out and get a HELOC. So we're going to use you as an example. You now have a home. You paid $100,000. You had to go through and do a swap and a sale and so on. You rebased it. But bottom line is the house is worth $500,000 today. So you go out and try to get a HELOC. And let's say your mortgage is $200, and you're trying to get a HELOC. But by the way, you want to get as much HELOC as you possibly can. So you know what? You're thinking, man, you know, on a good day, it might actually be worth $550. Let's add 10% to it. It might be worth $550, not $500. Now, in most cases, depending upon the dollar amount, in this case it's high enough, where the bank's going to send out its own appraiser to look at what your property is actually worth, and that appraiser is going to come back and go to the bank, and they're going to base the HELOC off of what the appraisal is, not what you put on your form that you filled out to give to the bank. And, by the way, that's exactly what Donald Trump did. It is no different.
SPEAKER 08 :
And people don't understand that. And all they're going off of, oh, he's a convicted felon.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. They do not look at the story I just told.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And what I'm saying is most people don't understand how that works.
SPEAKER 14 :
They do not.
SPEAKER 08 :
They do not. And that's kind of – and I don't know where this is coming from, but that's – we talk about illiteracy – In America, we also got a financial illiteracy problem in America, too. Big time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Big time. Big time. Absolutely. Dan, I got another call coming in. Appreciate you always. I appreciate your input, and especially on the accounting side. Appreciate that very much. John and Cheyenne, you're next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just wanted to chime in on what you and Dan were talking about with the New York case, the civil case with the half a billion dollar fine. That went to the New York State Court of Appeals, and they did the hearing on it, and the judges pretty much destroyed the state's case. But they didn't want to grant, and it's a civil case, but they didn't want to do anything until the election was over.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct. You are right on that. Sorry, I forgot about that. You are correct, John. Absolutely. Yes. Thanks for reminding me of that. You're right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is, They're going to rule whether Trump's president or not because it's a civil matter, not a criminal matter.
SPEAKER 14 :
A criminal case, right. John, if they don't throw that out, I would be absolutely shocked.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, because the bank that he borrowed the money from actually presented testimony, and they took the testimony that said, We didn't lose any money. He paid us back with interest like he was supposed to.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, we're not hurt on this at all.
SPEAKER 05 :
Nobody got hurt. That was the thing that the just, if you remember from some of that Court of Appeals, the justices were asking the questions, wait a minute, who was hurt by this?
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, no one.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then they said, this statue has never been used in this way. It was just at Enron.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
She's going to lose that one. And then the other one, his conviction appeal. Because they're going to call him a convicted felon.
SPEAKER 14 :
Forever.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think they're going to hear his appeal. And wouldn't that be nice if a year from now the appeals court turned around and said, this was bogus, and throw it out?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
The other thing, did you see that the Democrats didn't veer from their playbook today?
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what, I didn't follow. I was so busy with other stuff today, John, outside of that report that was sent to me, I didn't spend much time looking at the news today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so they already got a TRO on the birthright citizenship.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, that I did know. They are a Seattle judge, I believe, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so they go to a liberal federal Seattle judge who grants it immediately, which means it's going to go through the court in Seattle. And guess who's this United States Court of Appeals for the state of Washington?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Well, yeah, the ninth.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Yes, yes, the ninth. Yes, yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
The most liberal appeals court, but also the most overturned appeals court by the Supreme Court. Because it's the most liberal. Yeah, and then it gets to the Supreme Court and they overturn their decisions. So I got a feeling that one is him again. You know how, and I think we talked about it, he's playing 3D chess and they're playing checkers.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
While they're all focused on this birthright thing and their hair's on fire, he's meanwhile got a hundred other things going on under the table that they don't even know about.
SPEAKER 14 :
You can't argue that. And I also and I said this earlier, John, I do feel like his end goal is he wants this in front of the Supreme Court. Now, I talked about that with Phil Kirpin at the at the top of the hour at four o'clock. Phil's not as confident as I am that that thing will get overturned. I just don't know, John. And I get it. I'm not a Supreme Court justice. But the liberals, of course, I know what they're going to do. But I don't know how you could be on the conservative side. and say that, yeah, the founding fathers' idea was if you're an illegal alien and you have a kid here, that kid's now a citizen. I guarantee you that wasn't their intent.
SPEAKER 05 :
And the 14th Amendment was passed in 1868 over Civil War things because a lot of the southern black former slaves, the southerners, were trying to have them deported, saying they're not American citizens. And that was the main reason. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
So they were using any end run they could. And I read this up. There was one case that did go to the Supreme Court in 18, I think it was 98 or 99. Sorry, I can't remember the date. But the difference was the parents of that child were legal immigrants. In other words, they came here legally.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Big difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
Big difference. And that's going to be the question. Are legal immigrants allowed? That's the question. Can they do it? So I'm not sure how it's going to go either. Either way, it would be nice to have finally a ruling that says one way or the other. I think that's what Trump is trying to get. But we don't know. It's going to take a while. In the meantime, I just saw this great, they did a raid in Boston. And they picked up this guy who was arrested 17 times. Wow. And he's here illegally.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Amazing. And I stopped him. Good. And he lost his, he's going back to Haiti.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good.
SPEAKER 05 :
And he lost his mind in an interval. He used the F word, Trump.
SPEAKER 14 :
I saw some of that, actually. Yes, I did see some of that, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
You saw that one?
SPEAKER 14 :
Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 05 :
I can't wait until they drop him off.
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Charlie Grimes. Charlie's with us now. Luke and he switched places here earlier in the hour, so appreciate that and appreciate Luke as well helping us out earlier. Daniel Turner from Power of the Future will be joining us here in just a few minutes, so stay tuned. Hour number three is next. Again, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Thank you. I'm a rich guy.
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All right, welcome. Happy Thursday, everybody. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. That time of the week, Dr. Kelly Victory joining us, as well as Steve House. Always start with the ladies first. Dr. Kelly, how are you?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I'm okay, John. We're four days into this, and honestly, the jury's out. I'm not exactly sure how I feel about the first four days of this administration, so I'm looking forward to the next hour where we can talk about what's what's happened that's been good, and what's happened that's been puzzling.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Steve, your thoughts as well? And, yeah, I mean, a lot going on, lots of executive orders. We'll get into a few different things today, not only along those lines, but even some of the budgetary suggestions that I sent both of you right before showtime. But, Steve, welcome as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks. Good to be here. And I guess my opinion on the first three or four days is, I like the action. I like lots and lots of actions have been taken. Some of it's been really, really good. There's a few puzzling things, too, but for the most part, people talk about the first hundred days. It's more like the first hundred hours with him and what he's done in this first four days.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I was saying this yesterday, and the reality, Dr. Kelly and Steve, is I don't know that we've ever seen a president get after it as quickly as Trump did that evening, you know, meeting with the press, signing executive orders. Granted, he had a head start because he knew what he was getting into from doing this once before, so in that end of things, he's not a first-term president by any means, and he showed that Monday night, Dr. Kelly and the things that he started Now, there's a lot of things that I believe he will still do. There's still lots of confirmations. We may talk about some of those things today. And the one thing that I wanted to really get started with you guys on before we even get into any of that stuff is the pardon of Dr. Fauci.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah, let me first say I agree with Steve wholeheartedly. I like the fact that he has hit the ground running. It was very clear in his inaugural address on Monday night. He did not equivocate. He did not play to both sides. He said, this is what I'm going to do, and he pulled no punches, and I really like that. I think that there are some things, again, that are perplexing to me. And we can get into that with regard to these the pardon, the last minute preemptive pardon that Biden gave to Anthony Fauci, as well as dozens and dozens of other people. I think that is really not only is it a slap in the face to Americans and insults, because it robs them of the opportunity to really hold accountable people like Anthony Fauci, who were participants in tremendous crimes against humanity, who perjured themselves and far worse. But it's also sets a very dangerous precedent. If this stands legal challenge, the idea that a president, as he's walking out of the Oval Office, can, quote, preemptively pardon a bunch of people who've never been charged. What is going to stop any president in his or her administration from appointing people saying, look, do whatever the heck you want. And in the final minute, I'll just pardon you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Steve, your comments on that, because Donald Trump, there was some conversation back in the day prior to him leaving office where he may do some preemptive pardons and so on, and the left just went up in arms. There's even video out there of Adam Schiff. just really throwing a fit over the fact that Donald Trump may even do something along those lines and the accusatory nature of what Schiff said. And by the way, a lot of what he said goes along the lines of what Dr. Kelly just said. And yet, their very own president just did that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I'll give some of them credit even now because a lot of them on the left were really upset with Biden for what he did. I mean, they can't believe he went through this process on the precedent it sets. So Fauci and others, I mean, I will tell you right now, you're waiting for the day. It's not going to take very long that people are going to be given the option. If you make a major donation to a presidential candidate and they win, you will get an option to have some immunity given to you or some pardon given to you in exchange for that, because that's where the country is. I mean, we're corrupt enough. that I believe, I mean, frankly, that's exactly what Biden did with his family. They got $27 million. They should not have gotten it. It was obviously illegal. He pardoned them on it. So essentially, he took a $27 million donation at least to his own family. and pardon them on it, let alone wait until donors are needed in the heat of a big race.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Now, some of the good things that I saw Donald Trump do, and I even talked about some of these this week, I didn't go through every single executive order this week, but Dr. Kelly, some of the things that he did right off the bat was ending all of the nonsense around COVID, you know, the disaster relief, if you would, the response to, you know, setting aside certain things for COVID response, which we're still using, you know, what we were using up until that day. Those things I'm going to give Donald Trump credit for, because frankly, those things needed ended years ago.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, my gosh, yes. You know, I think overall, Trump's overreaching or overarching, I should say, The plan right now is to staunch the hemorrhaging that's been happening, the financial hemorrhaging. We are spending stupid amounts of money on things that, as you rightly point out, should have ended years ago when the pandemic ended. So he's stopping that. He's made bold announcements with regard to the requirement for any federal employee to wait for it, actually show up at work, be there in person. None of this remote work anymore. That is going to save a lot of money. And he's really appointing people who I think have been tasked, each of them individually, whether it's Linda McMahon and the Department of Education or Cash Patel at the FBI, to get in there and clean house, clear it up. I mean, he said to Linda McMahon, look, if you do a good job at the Department of Education, you're going to be out of a job. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I think that he meant that. And I think that that's great. I think that those are all huge moves and certainly stopping the ridiculous spending on anything related to the pandemic, I think, was a great first move.
SPEAKER 05 :
Any other things that you would have liked to have seen him done? And granted, we're only a few days in. There's more pardons today that came out for some of the pro-lifers that ended up in jail that shouldn't have been, by the way. So some of those things he's still working on. And timing is everything. And I get it. He can't do everything at once. But is there things that you were hoping he would have done by now that he hasn't?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, I was hoping that he was going to at least give tacit acknowledgement in his Monday night address and then act on it. If not, he's never going to acknowledge that the mRNA shots, that the COVID shots were a disaster. But he could have said that he was going to stop all mandates. He made, you know, he said he was going to reinstate the military who were dismissed with back pay. But he didn't say, and I'm going to make it, you know, illegal. I'm going to make it unconstitutional to have a vaccine mandate because there are still universities.
SPEAKER 05 :
I thought he and this is where maybe I heard wrong. So, Dr. Kelly and Steve, you know, correct me. I thought. He referenced something along those lines in that speech where he, at the end of talking about reinstating those individuals with back pay, he said something to the effect of and discontinuing that in the future. Now, maybe I heard that wrong.
SPEAKER 15 :
But I think it's referencing with reference to the military. He certainly hasn't signed anything. Nothing has been codified, at least, that would make it so that the other people, whether it's healthcare workers or law enforcement or college students, I wouldn't be held to this. So I guess if you're asking me specifically, is there something that I wish he would have done? I think it's important because I think a lot of Americans were really waiting for that. As I said, you're holding your breath if you think he's going to come out and say no more MRNA right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right, right. Yeah, not going to happen.
SPEAKER 15 :
Or any of that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
But I do think that he could have, along with the tremendous... action of reinstating the military, I think he could have made a bold statement about eliminating mandates for others.
SPEAKER 05 :
Steve, your thoughts on all of that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I actually think he's going to do it, but I think what he's waiting for is he's waiting for Bobby Kennedy to assume the HHS head and they're going to do it together. I do think that it's coming. I mean, every indication is it is. But I do think that there's some bullets that he's going to wait until, you know, there's something appropriate. I mean, just like executive orders maybe and how we do, you know, the Education Department nationally versus in the state. I think he'll do those orders. I'm just suspecting and maybe that's wishful thinking, but I suspect he's going to wait until Kennedy's in office and they're going to do it together.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's funny, Steve, when you say that, my son and I today were talking about some of this and the timing of and, you know, what does he wait and do when each person that he wants confirmed gets confirmed, especially when it comes to RFK Jr. And by the way, I'm with you on that. I think some of these things he's waiting for some of these individuals to be confirmed and then together because it gives them sort of not only some kudos, but a jumping off point where together they announce X, Y, Z.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, it's political. Obviously, it's very political. What Bobby's going to do is political. He needs to have some wins that are good news. I mean, the Make America Healthy Again thing is a really good idea, and I'm really supportive of it. But there's going to be some tough decisions in there. So I think he needs to mix in some wins with some of those tough decisions, and that may be what Trump is doing. But clearly, it has to get done at some point.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Question when we come back from break. Dr. Kelly, we'll start with you. I'm going to throw it out now. And that is there's a lot of flack that he's taking over the recension of some of the orders, of course, that, you know, Joe Biden put out. One of those being the, you know, prescription drug end of things, lowering the price of and so on, in which I think there's probably some. More to that than what's on the face, so we'll talk about that as soon as we come back. Affordable interest mortgage is next. Kurt Rogers, by the way, wants to help you with all your mortgage needs. Those of you that are self-employed especially, give Kurt a call, 720-895-0500.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory with us during this hour, Steve House as well. And one of the things, Dr. Kelly, that Trump did in the reversal of some of the executive orders that Biden put out was this Medicaid drug negotiation and so on, which I'm sure he's going to take some flack over. But I guess the question I have is. Was that EO from Biden? I mean, did anything really come of that? And is Trump doing this, A, so that he can revamp the whole thing? Or what are your thoughts along those lines?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. So a lot of this is symbolic for one thing. You know, when a new administration takes over, it's not uncommon for them to try to reverse certain policies that were put into place, particularly ones that didn't have any meat on the bones anyway. This is really a lot of a do you know about nothing. First of all, Trump clearly wanted to do some take some actions that would weaken the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare. including some things that Biden had put in place to strengthen Medicaid, which included providing more outreach funding to states. And so Trump is trying to reverse those things. With regard to the drug pricing, most of that had not even been initiated yet, so isn't going to have any impact on people. And he didn't touch the the bigger Biden health care initiatives, including the thirty five dollar a month cap on insulin, for example, and the two thousand dollar annual out of pocket cap on prescription drugs. So they will not be affected by Trump's executive actions on Monday. So I really think it was more symbolic than anything else. And as you said, so that he can sort of start fresh with a new administration, including Bobby Kennedy Jr. heading HHS and say, OK, what really makes sense? Do these at the beginning of his administration so they actually can be enacted, take effect and we can see the benefits?
SPEAKER 05 :
So what I figured, Steve, your thoughts on all of that, because you look at this from the admin side as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, I mean, it's that and it's even those, you know, that list of budget things you sent. There's a general rule here which says, you know, that we're putting lipstick on a pig a little bit. I hope that's not where we end up. I mean, there is. So many things that really need to be fixed, but I don't think you can use executive orders to fix healthcare. It's too messy, too big, too burdened, too corrupt to do it. So yeah, that's nice for executive orders. I still think he's got to come to the table and say, I want to spend the time and effort to fix health care, unlike any president in history. And it's going to be hard and we're going to do it. And it doesn't end up with a revision of Obamacare. It ends up with a completely different patient incentivized, make America healthy again, structure that we don't have today. So I didn't really pay much attention to those either because I didn't think they're going to have any impact.
SPEAKER 05 :
right i sent both of you i just came out just this afternoon i hadn't seen it i got a little bit of a chance to look at it as i was sending it to you guys i scanned through the majority of it i've got a few highlights and this is a report from the ways and means committee on essentially you know outside of even doge how do we start trimming the budgets you know where's the fat how do we trim some of this and for all of you listening i'll get into a little bit more of this uh after we're done with uh dr kelly and steve an hour or two but there is a ton of things in here to trillions upon trillions of dollars of savings. And in some cases, there's some costs that get added in depending upon what they do with certain things. But one of the things that, you know, several health care things, Dr. Kelly, that with you and Steve, I wanted to go over because one of the first things I read here is Medicare site neutrality. Currently, Medicare and beneficiaries pay more for the same health care service furnished in hospital outpatient departments than in physician offices. The budget supports Medicare site neutral payments by equalizing Medicare payments for health care services that can be safely delivered in a physician's office. And this is on a 10-year mark, about $146 billion savings. I mean, to me, this seems like a no-brainer. Why aren't we doing this already?
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree. And I think if you look at how inefficient, that's why we need somebody, a department of people specifically looking at these inefficiencies. There is nothing that you give to the federal government that becomes more efficient and you know, more cost-effective and more competent, ever. It always, if you want something to get done quickly and on budget, you give it to the private sector. And so I think there's so much fat to be cut out of this. So, yes, you know, DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, is going to look at all of these things and hopefully... Under Elon Musk's guidance, we will be just cutting out, not whittling away, John, but hacking away at things. Entire departments are likely to go away. You know, the number of billions of dollars a year that have been spent. Not well before COVID on buildings in Washington, D.C. that are fundamentally empty because people are not actually working in them. They're working from home or they work from the office. They're required to be there one day a week or something. These sorts of things should go away very, very quickly. You know, I think the list is endless for where we can cut these things out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Steve, as I was reading through this and everything Dr. Kelly said, I cannot disagree with. And what you said, by the way, on having complete reform, as I read through the Ways and Means Committee report and some of the, you know, billions upon billions of dollars that literally we are wasting as taxpayers. And I'm not joking when I say that literally wasting in some cases, these hospitals are able to double dip and do things that frankly, they should not be able to do. And some of this stuff to me is a no brainer on getting it fixed. But to your point, Steve, if if they went in and just did a complete overhaul, a lot of what's in this report just gets fixed automatically. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and I think you've got to go up a level from there even, but let's address site neutrality for a minute. The entire reason stuff like that exists and even some of the other stuff you're referring to is that there's more than one lobbyist per congressional member for health care. And a bill like site neutrality really came about by lobbyists saying, look, if you allow – non-hospital settings to get paid the same as hospital settings, hospitals will go out of business. Well, you know, 60-some percent of hospitals today have negative operating incomes, negative EBITDAs, and they're in real financial trouble. So lobbyists go to Congress and say, look, help them out by doing this so that they can maintain more income than they would otherwise. And the competition, you're basically stalling competition.
SPEAKER 04 :
So that's one thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
But the higher level discussion has to be, if you look at, let's just take birthright citizenship and you look at all the stuff that's in there about illegal aliens using healthcare and everything else, the best way to solve those problems is get rid of the problem. And to me, the way you get rid of a birthright citizenship, which will never pass muster in the court system or the other problems associated with aliens using healthcare is you stop having them come in the country illegally. You've got to stop the problem. Otherwise, you know, making tweaks that save you $10 billion on, you know, illegal aliens accessing Medicaid and Medicaid expansion, getting health care for free. You just need to stop the problem. Yes, get rid of all of that crap in there. But at the same time, it won't happen. It won't work in the long run unless we solve the higher order problems we're talking about.
SPEAKER 05 :
I agree. For some of you listening, for example, eliminate Medicare coverage of bad debt. Medicare currently reimburses hospitals at a 65 percent of bad debt. That's uncollected cost sharing that beneficiaries fail to pay. While private payers do not typically reimburse providers for bad debt, this policy brings Medicare more in line with the private sector by gradually reducing the amount that Medicare reimburses providers for bad debt. Again, and really, when we read this, by the way, it says Medicare reimburses. Really, Steve and Dr. Kelly, what it should say, what the taxpayers reimburse. Really, that's what it should say, or am I wrong? No, you're not wrong.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, of course. Yeah, the government has no money. It's all taxpayer money.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but the way, again, we kind of clean that up by calling the departments out and saying, you know, this department pays this and that department pays that. Well, no, at the end of the day, it's the three of us and millions of others that are paying this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Back at the time that I ran for Congress in 2020, and Kelly will remember this because I think she was part of putting this analogy together, health care is like going to a restaurant and ordering food without knowing what it costs, at a table getting served the food, when it came time to get the bill, you get a bill from the concierge, from the waiter, from the busboy, from the cook and the owner, and the value of that bill from each and all collectively would depend on how much money the people sitting next to you at the next table, how much they paid. So you never know what you're going to pay because there's cost-shifting ratios and there's all these things. And then, of course, you spend 20%. on the credit card transaction for healthcare versus 3% in a restaurant. That's what's wrong with healthcare. It's just so confusing. You can shift the money depending on what the guy next to you pays.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I'm guessing, and this is where, you know, Steve, go to you first, then Dr. Kelly. I am guessing that all of what you just said, Steve, is by design, or am I wrong?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think if you talk to a hospital administrator, I know plenty of them, and you ask them about cost-shifting ratios, they say it's survival for us. But if I look at it as a taxpayer, I think For myself, okay, so Medicare pays a certain amount, and then, you know, commercial payers like Optum, United, you know, BCBS, they pay a percentage of Medicare, like 103% of Medicare, 105% of Medicare. It's inpatient and outpatient, same procedure, cost different stuff. I mean, as a taxpayer or consumer, you look at that and go, isn't it all the same stuff being delivered to patients? Why would it be radically different, and why would the cost depend on whether my neighbor paid their bill or not? It's crazy. It makes it confusing, but also a lot of hospitals, never forget this, they can bill you for any amount they want for any procedure that they do on you. There's no limitations on what they can do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. Dr. Kelly, I mean, all of that and what Steve just said, agree, by the way, not arguing at all, that's spot on, but just seems so unfair to the end user.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, of course it is, and they're taking advantage of you when you are not in a position to argue, okay?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you're on your deathbed. You're hurting. You're in pain. All these things are going on. You're not going to argue with them at that point.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. They throw things in front of you on a clipboard, say, sign here, sign here. You're not in a position to negotiate. You're not in a position to say no. So, of course, you sign it. So the entire thing is a racket. And the idea that you should pay something different, that all of these different negotiated rates are And you're always trying to, you know, yes, it's a survival thing for the hospital because they're trying to make up for the huge population of people who don't pay anything at all. You know, it truly is the only thing, you know, as Steve said, if you went into the grocery store, filled up your cart with groceries, had no idea what anything cost and then signed the thing on the way when you had the cashier saying, yes, I promised to pay. And then, you know, two months later, you get a bill. You have no idea if it's legitimate. And I think that the hospitals and the insurers count on the fact that at some point, a fair percentage of people will get fed up, they won't be able to sort it out, and so they just pay the bill because they can't figure it out.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, there's another part of this, and that to me is that, I mean, I love American hospitals. I mean, there's a lot of great hospitals and a lot of great doctors in this world, but here's the other part. Medicare and the federal government is a payer and a regulator, so part of the problem is Medicare Medicare regulates hospitals to do things that cost us money that are insane. So give me an example. Well, the number of threads, the thread count of the scrubs the doctors are wearing or how many pieces of this or that. In an outpatient or in a commercial world, a non-government, non-over-regulated world, You know, Dr. Victory is doing work in an emergency room. She will do what she believes is necessary from a quality medicine point of view because she's a scientist and she's well-trained. She doesn't need the government to tell her what to do, how to document. She needs to do what she needs to do to be a good doctor. And the government, unfortunately, gets involved in all aspects of medicine and gives you penalties if you don't do it the way that they want you to do it. And all that costs a tremendous amount of money.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's sort of like their law whereby if you work for the federal government on highway projects and construction, you have to pay certain workers certain wages, even though the free market might dictate otherwise. Am I right in that, Steve? It's kind of the same thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's called Davis-Bacon laws, and frankly, if you don't pay it Davis-Bacon wages, you don't get contracts.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and bottom line, and you get fined and all sorts of other things. To your point a moment ago, at the end of the day, they're literally telling you how to do business and not letting the free market dictate it. So, Dr. Kelly, in your world as a doctor, if you agree to do all of these things, you're bound by that agreement to do what they tell you to do, which, to Steve's point, at the end of the day, does nothing but raise costs. Am I wrong in that? Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, exactly. And there's an awful lot of medicine. Probably 25 to 30 percent of medicine is unnecessary entirely, but it's done as a CYA. OK, because doctors are forced because of our our malpractice laws and the litigious nature of our society. The fact that you can sue for anything, you end up ordering a test and doing things that are absolutely insane. Because if you don't, you can be sued. For example, let's talk about these are real life examples. If a patient comes in, if a biologic male comes in to the ER, but I quote identifies as a woman, you have got to do a pregnancy test. on that person.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, my word.
SPEAKER 15 :
You are going to get sued. You are going to be sued for not treating that person the way that you would as a biologic female. Okay?
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, these are things that are... Even though there's not a chance, and you know what, of him ever getting pregnant. Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. But but you see, and that is why these are things that happen. And I could give you dozens and dozens of examples of pure, unadulterated insanity. OK, but if you don't do these things and so this is in all people, all Americans pay for this, because whether you personally are paying for it or you're at your tax rate, or the cost of your monthly premium on your health care insurance, one way or another, you are paying for it. We have got to cut that out.
SPEAKER 05 :
And again, this report that I'm talking about, guys, I'll go over some of these other things in the next hour, but there's a lot of things here, a lot of criticisms, by the way, that are being thrown around right now on this particular report, Steve, as you can imagine, because there's a lot on the left that don't want to see any of these things change. For some of them, this is a huge cash cow, and or it's protecting their constituents or whatever the case may be. But the bottom line, to Dr. Kelly's point a moment ago, all this is is just costing us all a bunch of money.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is. It's actually transferring wealth, you know, from taxpayers who pay taxes to grant programs. And many of those grant programs and stuff are funding overseas activity, not just in the United States. So that's, you know, part of the problem. And it's just, as Kelly said, I mean, you know, Trump said two genders. Just going to two genders on all federal grants, all federal forms, will actually save a significant amount of money. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not because they're going to...
SPEAKER 06 :
It's just the paperwork, right? In fact, quite frankly, Kelly said it wrong. It's not a biological female anymore. It's a non-transgendered woman. I heard that one. Yeah, transgendered woman versus now you have to call if you're a normal female, I guess you're a non-transgendered woman.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, it's funny, Steve, when you just said what you said, which I don't think a lot of people, even on the conservative side, picked up on him just saying from now on, there's only two genders. That's a huge cost saving measure in and of itself that I don't think anybody really picked up on.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is, but that's underlying all of it. I mean, I'm not all about the cost, right? I have sensitivity to people who have gender dysmorphia and those types of things. But it is establishing a framework of understanding of what we believe the current situation is. And then from that basic understanding where you don't change the rules, it's like... calling the COVID vaccine a COVID vaccine. They changed the rules on what a vaccine was so they could call it a vaccine and give it liability protection. Don't change the rules on what genders we have. Deal with the problems that come from people having issues with their gender or dysmorphia and stop trying to change the rules to be able to make something else happen that doesn't help anyone.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House, and our engineer today, by the way, Luke Cashman as well, which I appreciate also. All right, Dr. Kelly, I have a question for you, and this is something where I'm not sure that an executive order could be done for this, so I thought I would ask you and Steve to just see if I'm on the right track or not. But one thing that... And maybe it's not possible. But I really wish if there if it were, Trump would do this. And that would be to at least put a freeze on. I'm not sure he could eliminate it, but put a freeze on royalty payments to those that are in the NIH that are making money off of my tax dollars. Is that even something he could do? So when you mean royalties... So Fauci's making money off of patents and things that NIH developed. We've talked about that in the past many, many times. I, as a taxpayer, funded all of that, but yet he's getting the royalties.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. Yes. And I think that there should be an absolutely absolutely can be eliminated. And I think it's something that if Trump doesn't do the executive order, it's something that Robert Kennedy Jr. will attack very early. It's not only a total misuse of your tax dollars. There's a conflict of interest that is absolutely inherent in that. The idea that anybody at any of our federal agencies should own parts of patents or products that they are in a position to recommend or mandate that people take is an absolute conflict. I mean, it is beyond racketeering. And so, yes, there's certainly something that Trump can do about that. And as I said, Robert Kennedy Jr. will take care of it, I believe, forthwith if it isn't done by executive order.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, Steve, maybe this is, again, one of those things we talked about early on where he's just waiting for the timing to do some of these things, make some of these announcements, and so on. And so I'm going to dovetail into something else, Steve, that I want you to answer. Why do we need FDA, NIH, and the CDC? Can't all of those run as one department?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, let's just one other quick thing on the patent thing, and that is, Technically, and I think this is where they're going to get a little bit more nuanced, is technically the patent money that's paid to those physicians, and I agree it shouldn't be paid, is not paid by federal taxpayers. It's paid by drug companies. But my tax dollars funded it, right? Well, funded what? The research for the patent? Not necessarily. I mean, in the COVID vaccines, there was a tremendous amount of tax dollars, but a regular drug that's not always coming out of your tax dollars to create a regular drug. What happens is if they did the patent, I mean, maybe the U.S. government should have an ownership of that patent because we the people own the government. I'm not sure about that. But, you know, that's one issue. And what was the other question that you actually asked and I diverted just like a conversation?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and so really quick, back before we move on, just to make sure that I'm clear on this and that I'm saying it correctly. I, as a taxpayer, though, are still paying the salaries of those people, back to Kelly's point, where they're then dictating and recommending where these things get used. And because they can dictate that and get more royalties based upon what they recommend, that alone should be stopped, right? Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is an incentive problem, a significant incentive problem. There's lots of those things in the government as well. So you're right about that. It's just that the royalties part is not paid directly from U.S. taxpayer dollars. It's paid from pharmacy companies or pharma companies. Okay, makes sense.
SPEAKER 15 :
But for example, John, I as a physician, if I can't own a – an x-ray, a radiology clinic or a radiology department or a lab where I refer patients to myself. I can't refer to myself, refer them to go to get care somewhere where I then make money off of it on the back end. And that's fundamentally, there's stark laws in place that prevent physicians from doing that. Why in the world would we allow Anthony Fauci to own part of a patent on a drug that he can then stand up there and say, everybody needs to take this?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
Everybody needs to take the drug on which I get paid through the back door.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
These guys made millions in addition to their federal salaries on the royalties that they got on these mRNA vaccines, for example.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. So, Steve, I'll run back to you because I know we're getting tight on time. So I'll run back to my other question. Could we and I know this is a bigger question and it won't happen overnight and there's a lot of moving parts to make this work. But why do we need NIH, FDA, CDC? Can't those all be one?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know if they'd all be one, but I do think that you bring up a great point. First of all, Mehmet Oz has a really big job, and, of course, Marty does as well with his role with the FDA. I think what ought to happen is Bobby Kennedy ought to sit with those guys and other smart people like Dr. Victory, for example, and sit down and say, what exactly do we need to actually do? Forget about the name of the agency. Let's talk about what needs to be done by currently public health, right? Public health is a big part of that. But, you know, how do we manage safety regarding new drugs coming to market, right? How do we manage the Centers for Disease Control? How do we manage when there's something coming along that we need to be concerned about? The question to me is not the agency. They basically it's like the budget, right? Everything in that budget plan, what you need to talk about the next hour is. all of them should be eliminated and restarted because we should have a zero-based budgeting strategy. The same thing might be true in healthcare today. We should start with a zero-assumption structure and say, what role does the government play that typically was played by CDC, NIH, and FDA, and how should that change given the technology changes and artificial intelligence changes? And everything else that's coming along, we haven't fundamentally changed those. We just made them bigger.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. You know what? Can't argue that. And I like your answer, by the way, Steve. Basically, if those three agencies still existed, but they were minimized and did exactly what they were supposed to do, and they didn't have all these overreaching things that they're involved in, at the end of the day, okay, I'm okay with that. My point as a taxpayer, Dr. Kelly, is I just want to see some savings, because to me, it just seems like far too much government.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree. The government is beyond bloated. I don't think it's an overestimation to say that we could cut our government down by probably 70%. Seventy. Wow. And still, truly, if you look at the number of things, just cutting out the Department of Education and sending those decisions and the funding and the things that need to happen back to the states, getting rid of the Federal Department of Education, which I will remind people, you know, began in the mid-1970s, okay? I went through, you know, all of grade school before there was a Department of Education. And I got a great education, thank you very much. We now have this overload of hundreds of thousands of federal employees. And hundreds of thousands of them making more than $200,000 a year, by the way. And it is billions of dollars that we stand to save by eliminating just the Department of Education, sending that back to the states, which is where it belongs in the first place. If you go down the line with all of the different cabinets... All of the different departments cut out the ridiculous funding for stupid scientific studies, you know, on the effect of, you know, cotton candy on, you know, rat brain, whatever. I mean, just I can't even make one up. That's as insane as what they do. I think that we truly, I think, could well cut our government by half without even feeling it.
SPEAKER 06 :
um you know what go ahead steve no go ahead so part of what the government does and it's become so bloated in is it's become a referee on almost everything right i mean capitalism should work without having to have somebody in the government decide what's really equitable what's equal what's allowed and not allowed why are there so many people in the irs i mean all of it is just looking at the way that we conduct business and conduct our lives and they're making decisions like a referee does. Yeah, you get this. No, you don't get this. I mean, there's so many people employed in that process. It's not unlike that in health care where you get prior authorization and then denials and, you know, who makes the decision. I mean, quite frankly, Kelly, as a doctor, oftentimes can get prior approval on something, and somebody who's not a doctor, who's not even a clinician will say, well, I looked at a flow chart, and it doesn't look like you're allowed to do that, Dr. Victory. I mean, it's just ridiculous the amount of refereeing that goes on and what it costs.
SPEAKER 05 :
Can't argue that one at all. Again, those two, and if we really want to trim government back, why two agencies? Why can't they be under one agency? Because it looks to me like there's a lot of crossover between what one and the other does, or am I wrong? Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I think there's tremendous crossover. And frankly, I think they have abandoned their mandate to do what they were tasked to do in the first place. Let's look at, you know, if you want to say that, you know, the Centers for Disease Control, they are supposed to investigate. what causes and what is contributing to different diseases, different illnesses, different problems that we have in public health. So why, for example, hasn't the CDC, the agency tasked with that, why have they not looked into what is causing, for example, the tremendous increase in autism? We all know it's true. We know that it was 1 in 10,000 children when I was growing up. It's now 1 in 34 births. From 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 34 births. Now, that is not because we are, quote, better at diagnosing autism. It's because there's been a monumental increase in that. Why do we have a monumental increase in diabetes, obesity, hypertension, depression, insomnia? It's not because we are better capable of identifying obesity. It's because we've gotten fatter. Why hasn't the CDC addressed that? Instead, as I said, they're doing stupid studies on beagles, horrific studies that are meaningless to the overall health and wellness of the American population. So, yes, I think not only is there tremendous overlap, there is so much fat that can be cut out. They need to get back to what they were tasked to do, and they need to justify everything. single position that they have before we go forward.
SPEAKER 06 :
I can't argue that. John, one thing I would add to all that, Kelly's 100% right on that, but here's the other thing. One of the things I love about Make America Healthy Again is that it's going to bring the siloed agencies together in ways we have not talked about ever before. For example... If Robert Kennedy says no more fluoride in the water, he needs to deal with interior. He needs to deal with public works. He needs to deal with all of these things. If you take about all of the things that cost Americans their health, from food production to the water to the air to chemicals to you name it, I mean, to structure and just make America healthy again, what you likely would find is you've got a bunch of agencies you don't need at all, and you've got a bunch of other agencies who are actually costing us money in one agency because of what they're doing in their own agency. And I think if they do that, that could be one of those programs that really makes a huge difference in the future of American life.
SPEAKER 05 :
Perfect. Great ending, guys. It was a fast hour. We'll talk more next week. Thank you both very much. Steve, I'll let you go first. Appreciate you.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what? I appreciate you, and I also appreciate Kelly and your wisdom, because you always bring something to the table I hadn't thought of, so I appreciate you being here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Dr. Kelly as well, thank you, and I'll second what Steve just said. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
Terrific. Look forward to next week. As always, I'm sure we'll have lots more to talk about. Thanks, you guys.
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Explore the promising landscape of nuclear energy, as Bill places a spotlight on companies experiencing a renaissance, driven by advances in AI and increased energy demands. Discover Guggenheim's bold pick for 2025 and learn why certain sectors are attracting significant investor attention. From AI investments to pharmaceutical breakthroughs in weight loss, this episode covers the most compelling opportunities in today's market.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gunderson.
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And welcome to the Friday. It is Friday already. It's the January 24th edition. The year is flying. We're already almost four weeks into a new year. This is Bill Gunderson, President of Gunderson Capital Management. And it is the Best Stocks Now show, which is heard every weekday, Monday through Friday, across several channels across America. And, of course, our podcast goes out every night on our website and most podcast sites. Well, we had a good day in the market yesterday. And we're off to kind of a mixed start today. Let's pick up where we left off yesterday. We left off yesterday with the S&P 500 at an all-time high. Yes, sir, it hit an all-time high, 6,119. And today it looks like we're tacking on, let's see, the S&P 500, last time I looked, was down a little bit here. And so we're not going to see a new high again today. Maybe we will. Maybe we won't. In the meantime, well, we are seeing a new high. We're up now. We've turned to the upside on the S&P 500 with a gain of 11 basis points. Or, well, it's up one point right now. The Dow's down 127 to 44.437. And the NASDAQ closing in on a new high. It's up 17. at 20,070. So welcome to today's Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only firm. We've had a pretty good start to the year so far in 2025. A little bit of Trump euphoria still in the air, it would seem. Valuations a little rich, however. I did send out charts this morning to all of our followers there on the current status of the Dow. Not only the technicals, but also the valuations. I sent out the current status of the S&P 500, which hit a new high yesterday, and is a point above that today. But I also sent out those valuation numbers, which are very critical at this time. And I sent out a chart of the NASDAQ this morning with my commentary, not only on the chart, but also on those all-important valuations. the nuclear stocks had another very good day yesterday it looks like they're doing well again today and like i said a little bit of trump euphoria still out there interest rates we're watching those very very closely because they could be a very important factor this year in fact i saw a A big firm out there, let me see, who was it? It was J.P. Morgan or one of those talking about if interest rates go back up above 5. They believe that 5% is kind of the key there. And if you start rising above 5, that could be very, very bad. for the markets. And I've said the same thing, basically. We did burst right through that old 4.7 level. It looked like we were headed for 5, and all of a sudden it caught hold, and we've held that. But there's some worry that if inflation comes back or sticks around, that we could go above 5, and that would really hurt the markets because we're at such high multiples already. And I did see this morning that Japan, that's kind of surprising. I mean, Japan is a very, very sluggish economy. They've been at zero interest rates forever. They've been at about 1% growth forever. They're having a bit of an inflation problem in Japan. Inflation went up to 3%. So I don't know if that bodes well for the rest or if that's any indication for the rest of the world. But inflation still is a problem, and that's why interest rates are so critical to watch. And, of course, you've got Trump calling for lower interest rates. Well, he's jawboning. He's jawboning, hoping that the Fed will hear him. and the lower rates at their next meeting. I don't see that happening. But, you know, you never know what could happen. There's a proposed constitutional amendment. Let's see, who was this introduced by? Andy Ogles, Republican from Tennessee. A resolution introduced to the House of Representatives to amend the U.S. Constitution to allow President Donald Trump to be elected to serve a third term in the White House. Okay. I don't know, you know, if I like changing that constitutional amendment. But he claims... that Trump has proven himself to be the only figure in modern history capable of reversing our nation's decay and restoring America to greatness. He must be given the time necessary to accomplish that goal. Well, you know, by the time he ends this term, he'll be 82, I believe, years old. But obviously, mind's still sharp and still in pretty good shape. I can't believe the energy that the guy has. But that's just being floated out there. something interesting. Okay, nuclear. Let's talk nuclear a little bit. They had a good day again yesterday. There's advances being made. I'm going to call it, I think the best word, I finally heard the word, I think, or the term that coins this whole move in nuclear the best. We're looking at a renaissance, a nuclear renaissance. And it's being driven by Artificial intelligence and data centers. And who would have ever thought that that would put to death? Well, solar and wind aren't completely out of the mix. But, you know, there are a drop in the proverbial bucket when you look at the surge in energy demand that is happening, not only from EV, electrical vehicle cars, being charged all night, but also from these data centers, which are big, big energy hogs. And we continue to get partnerships and deals being made in the nuclear space. I mentioned that yesterday, South Carolina, I probably live maybe 20 miles from where they started to build the nuclear power plant out at the Santee Cooper Lake area. And they abandoned that project, and guess what? They're going to reboot it. and try to get up and running. I'm sure that South Carolina wants to be a player in that data center business, which right now is really centered in Texas and a few other states. Virginia, believe it or not, has a lot of data centers. And I see today that Virginia, let's see, the private equity firm that the governor was a member of, I believe it's KKR, or KBR, one of those, they are buying the big energy company there in Virginia. So everybody kind of wants to be a player. Yesterday, Oklo had another huge day. Nano Nuclear also had a huge day. These are very small players. And I mean that in a couple of ways. They're small in that they're trying to develop smaller nuclear reactors so they can kind of go to private industry and be used for a lot of other purposes. Yesterday, Lightbridge, LTBR, and Oklo, I've talked about both of those many times, are doing a potential nuclear partnership. and they're coming up with new fuels for nuclear energy. So that continues to be. And I've also created a sector in my app. I've divided off the nuclear sector. You know, one of the important screens that I do daily in the Best Stocks Now app are the leading sectors in the market. I have about 66 sectors, I think. Might be up to 70 now. but I separated out the nuclear sector and made that so it could be the leading sector in the market right now. We'll see, those numbers will compute in the app and I'd say by next Tuesday we'll know where the nuclear sector is. I know that Vistra Energy out of Texas has been the number one ranked stock for a long time in the app. It's either one or in the top two or three for many months now. So that continues to be a very vibrant sector. Now, there's a lot of other players that I want to talk about when we come back. In fact, one of them gets an $11 billion contract to supply nuclear reactors for submarines in the United Kingdom. And let's not forget, we've had nuclear-powered submarines for many years, nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, and now we've got to even some of these cargo ships are nuclear-powered. So that is a big renaissance that's taking place and a very enticing, a very interesting area for investment. And in fact, I saw one of the big firms, we'll get to that in a bit, calling one of the big energy nuclear companies their best idea of 2025. Which one is it? And which one is it that got this $11 billion contract? We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, we're all in the red right now. Not by much. The Nasdaq's now down 24. Dow's down 103. The S&P is down just four points here right now. Okay, back to nuclear. That seems to be on a lot of investors' minds these days. It's definitely been a very good place for us here to be invested recently. Rolls-Royce is the company that got the contract from the U.K. Navy to put nuclear reactors down. into the submarines over there it's the biggest contract ever awarded here to Rolls Royce and you know you could say that Rolls Royce has gone through a massive renaissance itself it was a one dollar stock Not that long ago, nuclear was not all that popular there for a long, long time. And, of course, Rolls-Royce, their bread and butter is making jet engines. But now, all of a sudden, they're a major player in the nuclear space. And that has shown up in their... in their performance of the stock. Now the stock trades on the pink sheets. It does not trade as an ADR in the US. RYCEY is the symbol. I do have it in the app. Rolls-Royce signed the largest ever contract with the UK Ministry of Defense to design and build nuclear reactors to power new UK submarines. under a contract valued at 11 billion dollars uh rolls royce uh you know what has not been a very good stock over the last 10 years it's delivered about three percent a year that's it but all of that has occurred now listen to what it's done recently and i've got a chart here the the There's going to be a story in the newsletter this week about it with the chart and the performance of the stock. Over the last three years, Rolls-Royce has delivered 66.7% per year, while the market's delivered 13.1%. We call that alpha. There's some big alpha. And over the last 12 months, Rolls-Royce is up 91%, while the S&P is up 26%. So there's some massive alpha. Rolls-Royce is hitting a new 52-week high here. And really, you've got to go back to 2020. It's hitting a new five-year high also. It got as low as about $1 in 2022. And then with the renaissance of nuclear, I mean, that's been good for Rolls-Royce. The chart looks very solid. The valuation is pretty good. And, of course, the momentum is very good right now. Now, Guggenheim, they named their best idea. I did that at my NASDAQ appearance earlier this year, several weeks ago. Guggenheim happens to like a nuclear-related stock, very much a nuclear-related stock. And one of our biggest holdings, I've talked about this one many times, Constellation Energy, CEG, is named the best idea at Guggenheim. It says, they say, if you have to own one name in 2025, it's CEG. Well, I'm glad to see them come aboard. We've been in Constellation Energy, I think, for well over a year. And Constellation Energy, let's see how it's doing today, CEG, which is Three Mile Island. I mean, this is where all of the no-nuke stuff began. And now you've got this huge renaissance taking place, which really is breathtaking. CEG, I want to say it's hitting a new all-time high today. Yes, it is. It's hitting $347.86 today. The performance of this stock is about as good as it gets. Their earnings are exploding. Earnings are going to be up 87% this year, 10% next year out of Baltimore, but they're also in the natural gas, power, renewable energy business, but it's the nuclear part of this story. that is really driving it. So there you go, there's top pick for 2025 from Guggenheim. They think that the Calpine deal that they recently did changed everything. And we have a very large position in Constellation Energy in both our premier growth portfolio and our dividend and growth portfolio. Yes, it pays a dividend. So You know, there's your basic utilities, which 90% of the utility sector, maybe 95%, is just your basic old utilities. Edison, you know, Pacific Gas and Electric and all the different... suppliers, Dominion Industries, Southern. It hasn't been a very good sector for folks. But now all of a sudden, it has new life. And in fact, I used as my proxy here for the nuclear sector an ETF. The symbol is NUKZ, N-U-K-Z. I haven't heard of range ETF funds, but they're definitely got a good one here. in nukes, I'll read you the top 10 holdings in that, and I'm using that as my proxy for the nuclear sector. This is called the Range Nuclear Renaissance ETF, which is hitting a new all-time high today. Their top 10 holdings, Cameco, Oklo, Constellation Energy, NuScale, Centris, which is uranium, GE Vernovia, which we've talked about many times, Silex, which I believe is an Australian company that would be very difficult to purchase shares in unless you bought the ETF. Vistra and Honeywell. Honeywell has big nuclear ambitions. So you can see what a hot sector this is. And yesterday, we've had several in the incubator portfolio that is only available to the live trading audience out there. Nano had a huge day yesterday. NNE, nano nuclear, surged to an all-time high after securing new patents. for a micro reactor now this is the one i believe that's doing all of their testing up in idaho at the proving grounds up there they're looking not only for a micro reactor but also portable reactors and they got some really important patents yesterday that's nne let's see how nne it's had one heck of a run it's up 3.2 percent today but NNE is gone. In August, it was $6.50. Today, it's $44.37. How did I find it? The beststocksnowapp.com. When I add those stocks to the app, I added one today. I think we're talking about that one in the second half of the show. They show up on the A-plus momentum list. All of a sudden, wow, look at this thing, A-plus momentum. That means it's performing better than all the stocks in the market out there. And that's when I start doing my research on why. And a lot of times there's a good reason why. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. 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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, the newsletter will be coming out Saturday. That's a labor of love. I'm in my 25th year of writing the Gunderson Letter, which goes out every Saturday. And it has all five, six, six of our portfolios in it every week. Our macro call on the market, our outlook. and stories that I've talked about during the week on stocks that a lot of times you've never heard of, maybe sometimes new technologies, new kids on the block, new shooters, new players in burgeoning industries. I try to stay on top of things here, and if there's a better newsletter out there, please email me, bill at gundersoncapital.com, and I'd like to subscribe to it. But other than that, I do my own research, and I share it with you. Now, I have been offering, and that has been a big hit, and I am having so much fun doing it. The four-week trial of everything, which is the app, my newsletter, and all my commentary articles. during each day in the market and uh and then a lot of people end up saying you know what that's a lot of work after following that for a month they say maybe we'll just have the gunderson team over there manage our money for them then we put you through a financial planning process uh to determine where your risk level is at and what might be the proper allocation of our portfolios that we manage here for you. Now, you can get four free weeks at GundersenCapital.com. We've had an overwhelming response. GundersenCapital.com. And to set up an appointment with us to talk to us about money management, 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Okay, now we're going to go in a little different direction. We're going to go to AI, artificial intelligence, where we've had a lot of news this week. We had the big announcement on Monday, I believe it was, the $500 billion being committed. by a consortium of OpenAI and SoftBank and Oracle and others. We also found out that, I already knew this, Elon Musk does not like Sam Altman of OpenAI, and he warned that they don't have the money, the bucks that they're talking about, 500. But anyways, AI is definitely... one of the leading sectors in the market is not kimberly clark is not johnson and johnson is not the railroads uh... we have a whole new bunch of uh... leadership uh... sectors and industries uh... in in the u.s economy today It's my strong opinion that a portfolio should reflect that and not have dead wood from yesteryear in those portfolios. That doesn't mean we're out there taking big risk and everything. Look, NVIDIA is the biggest market cap in America today. You can own NVIDIA, you can own Intel. It's your choice. But semiconductors obviously play a massive role in today's economy. Well, we did an interesting story earlier this week of what Nancy Pelosi was buying and selling. She has an uncanny prowess for picking stocks. It's been proven that her track record is phenomenal. Of course, you know, she sits in on a lot of important meetings there in her role as a congresswoman from California. But anyways, one of the stocks that she disclosed was Tempus AI, which is T-E-M. And I added it to the app that day. I haven't looked at it since. Yeah, I have. I've got it on my daily watch list. But they create AI in the drug industry, the health care industry. And, you know, it's interesting, but it's out there. I mean, it's an $8.3 billion company headquartered in Chicago, Illinois. But I saw yesterday Kathy Wood goes all in. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing because I've seen many times where she's been the kiss of death on a stock. And she's written a lot of stocks right into the ground. I'm a witness to it. I've seen her write stocks right into the ground. She doesn't seem to have the ability to admit, you know, maybe I'm wrong and better cut my losses and move on before I lose 80%, 90%. But, hey, it is what it is. Everybody has their own style. Kathy Woods goes all in on Tempest AI, boosting her holdings by over 600,000 shares today. The symbol of the stock is TEM. She says that her interest began on December 6th when the Arc Genomic Revolution ETF made its initial purchase of shares in the healthcare technology company. Since then, Tempus AI has rapidly ascended with ARK's portfolio becoming the 10th largest holding in the flagship innovation ETF. Tem now represents 3.2% of ARK's total assets. She's got a $265 million stake, which is pretty big. I mean, she owns about 5% of the company. So I don't own it. I have it on my watch list. But now you've got Pelosi and Cathie Wood. Big news out of Novo Nordisk. In fact, there's two weight loss stories here that are big stories. Novo is up 7.4% today. They're working on, I guess, GoV2 or whatever they're going to call it. The Danish drug maker said amicretin, amicretin, one of its novel obesity therapies, caused up to 22% weight loss over 36 weeks. That's pretty good. 22% weight loss over 36 weeks. And the stock is up... 7.3% today. I think Lily's up too a little bit. Lily's up 1.6%. But the other one that just blows me away here, how about Allurion, A-L-U-R. They're combining gastric balloons. Okay, that's been their weight loss thing is putting a balloon in your stomach so obviously you get full real fast. They did a study on combining the gastric balloon with the GLP-1 drugs. uh... and saw tremendous results this is uh... i think it's phase two uh... i don't can't find it there but it it it's not like uh... it is like phase two is not the initial one the stock last time i looked a l u r was up four hundred percent well it's settled down a lot i would advise not buying stocks in the pre-market when they're up four hundred percent Now the stock's up just 183%. This is only a $29 million company. I mean, it began the day as about a $10 million company, and now it's a $29 million company. We'll call it the stock of the day. out of Natick, Massachusetts, Allurion, A-L-U-R, which is combining balloons, gastric balloons, with GLP-1 drugs. Maybe you just never eat anything with that in your stomach. I don't know. Boeing shares fall as preliminary results miss estimates. Poor Boeing. They just can't get out of their own way. Boeing, a member of the Dow. It has come back. It was 137 recently. Now it's 177. It's up about 33%. They've got the assembly line back up and running. They seem to have all their immediate problems behind them for now, but they're warning that they're going to miss their earnings estimate. Now, here's a surprise to me. Costco shareholders overwhelmingly voted to keep Costco's diversity program in place. And, of course, there's been a lot of controversy about DEI, diversity programs. Most companies are giving them up. And I think from the results of the recent election, DEI not real popular, but shareholders at Costco were overwhelmingly for it, and Costco is keeping their diversity programs. Okay, Bank of America keeps their buy rating on Apple. Well, that's why I don't have Bank of America managing my money. He took a shot at the CEO Trump did in his speech to the World Economic Forum. He called out Brian Moynihan, CEO of Bank of America, for kicking conservative investors out if they did anything funny. or discriminating against him. He also called out Jamie Dimon for the same thing publicly. Moynihan was in the audience. Jamie Dimon was in the audience. But you know Trump. Trump is Trump. And he says you haven't been fair to conservative Republican investors. But anyways, Bank of America, which is Merrill Lynch, keeps their buy rating on Apple. That's a terrible stock. What can I say? It was once a great stock. We're talking Steve Jobs, and I think Tim Cook came in, did okay for a while, but man, I just see that thing being dead in the water right now for a Quite some time with very little innovation. Okay, when we come back, let's look at underneath the surface here. And there are some big earning reports here today. A couple of Dow companies reporting. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now. Well, American Express, I can't knock too much. I've owned that. We owned it for quite some time. It's a very good company. They have reported earnings. And American Express is also in the Dow. They are, let's see, down 3.2% after their slight earnings beat. Now, one of the poster boy, soggy stocks, dodgy old growth giants of yesteryear, Verizon. I got to tell you, every single portfolio that comes to me from a Merrill Lynch or a Morgan Stanley or a Raymond James or any of these big firms, almost always, always on Verizon. and AT&T. Okay, now the app would say, why? The Best Stocks Now app shows you, look, here's what the stock has done over the last 10 years, the last decade, which has been a very good decade in the S&P 500. I mean, the S&P 500 alone has averaged almost 20% a year, believe it or not. It sits right now at 19.7. Verizon, however, has delivered 3.1% per year. You would have made more in a money market than Verizon. Oh, I know, it pays a big dividend yield. But you have to add the capital depreciation to that dividend yield to calculate your total return. And total return is very, very important. Verizon's current dividend yield is 6.8%. Well, do the math. If the stock's averaged 3.1% over the last 10 years, total return, the dividend 6.8, that means the stock's been going down by 3.7%. But you have received the dividend yield to make it look a little better. Over the last five years, you've been losing 3% a year in Verizon VZ. And if you look in your portfolio and you see VZ in your portfolio, you've got to make your own analysis of that. I don't think it's a very good holding. You know, I've only got 20, 25 slots on my roster. Verizon would be in a dividend and growth portfolio. The problem is there's no growth. So not good. Not good at all is Verizon. In my book, over the last three years, minus 3.6% per year. There's just nothing there. There's nothing there. New York, New York. Verizon's up 1.9% today. And then the other one that has reported here, Intuitive Surgical, which really arguably is the best robotic stock of all time. one of the great disruptors i have to admit i never really ever got in maybe in the early days of intuitive surgical that's a two hundred and five billion dollar company and that's obviously uh... was a big disruptor in surgery uh... where it's done uh... with uh... you know computer driven scalpels and very precise precision And it was a big advancement, a huge advancement. It's still growing by about 12%, 13% a year. They had a huge quarter, however. Maybe they've got some new products, but their earnings are up 35% and their sales are up 25%. ISRG, one of the great inventions, one of the great disruptors. of all time now let's just take a look inside the NASDAQ and see what's going on the internals of the NASDAQ in the few minutes we have remaining here the biggest loser Texas Instruments there's another one you take any sector the semiconductor sector is one of the best sectors in the entire market okay but there's about 50-60 stocks in that semiconductor manufacturing sector There's only a few good ones, and the rest are just kind of filler in an ETF or in a sector. TXN has not been a good stock. It's down 5.8% after they reported earnings today. Intel, also a big loser in the NASDAQ, down 2.6%. Arguably one of the worst stocks in the NASDAQ, recently kicked out of the Dow chart. Kind of a disgraced company looking for a massive comeback. Maybe they need to bring in Larry Culp from GE to turn that mess around. But they're in pretty deep water. They've got a long way to come back. On the upside in the NASDAQ today, Broadcom's up 2.4%. Workday up 1.3%. Pretty flat day. however, in the NASDAQ today. And we'll end with the S&P 500 here. NextEra Energy. Now, I wonder if they're going to become a nuclear player. They have not yet. They're Florida. NextEra was always kind of an innovative company and kind of a broker in electricity, but they are not participating in this big move, which tells me they don't have any nuclear companies. The stock is up 4.9% today, but the chart's not all that great on NextEra. Palantir's having a good day. Palantir is the top tech stock in the S&P 500. It's up 3.6%. We spent a lot of time yesterday, and we've spent a lot of time in the past talking about Palantir. Eli Lilly's having a good day. Eli's up 2.4%. The battle on obesity rages on. And, I mean, it's a war. It's a battle. The Battle of the Bulge, maybe they should call it. And with several players, but obviously Novo Nordisk and Lilly dominating. dominating uh... that uh... industry and i'm a big believer i'm a big believer that uh... weight loss uh... lead stew a lot of benefits lot of benefits and other areas i believe that the Just overall health, everything. Nothing bad can come from losing those extra pounds. And on the downside in the S&P 500 today, CF Industries down 6% and Texas Instruments down 6%. All right, well, I'm geared up. I'm going to be writing the newsletter here today, get a big head start on it. Kind of interesting to see how the sector rotation that's taking place out of kind of, you know, big tech is seeing money leave and going to other places, and then some of big tech is still doing well, like Netflix and Meta. etc so in very interesting time that we're in right now in the market should be very interesting newsletter sign up for four free weeks to follow gunderson it's been a lot of fun i think you'll learn a lot i sent out a lot of charts and teaching examples 855-611-BEST for an appointment for four free weeks of the trial go to gundersoncapital.com gundersoncapital.com Have a great weekend, everybody.
Kim Monson brings attention to the legislative developments in Colorado, emphasizing the influence these have on the community. From the repeal of co-payments for inmate health care to changes in flag policies at embassies, the discussion touches on the significance of these legislative actions. With a focus on promoting the free market and lowering taxes, Kim andProducer Joet advocate for a restoration of prosperity and unity under the guiding principles of liberty and justice for all.
Kim Monson (Host) :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the show comes to you because of our sponsors, Hooters Restaurants. Great, just great lunch specials and great food. And those lunch specials are Monday through Friday. They have happy hour specials as well. And they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And they have been great sponsors of both the Kim Monson Show and America's Veterans Stories for quite some time. And I mentioned the Center for American Values. That website is AmericanValuesCenter.org, so be sure and check that out regarding their event this afternoon. And for our legislative kickoff for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, that website is ColoradoTaxpayer.org. Let's get into some of these headlines here. And the first one that I wanted to talk a little bit about, this was from CNN. And as I was really contemplating on this, the headline is flights canceled for refugees who were slated to travel to the United States. And it says these are refugees that were slated to come here after years long and often cumbersome process. had their flights canceled, according to a State Department memo, to resettlement partners obtained by CNN. Resettlement partners, that would be your NGOs, your non-governmental organizations that have been receiving tax money for this. Now, I served for Gosh, I think six years, a while, I'll just say a while, on the board of Lutheran Family Services back in the 90s. And I joined the board because I had watched their adoption programs. I loved that. And so loved that they were adopting kids out, that they were giving options over abortion. I loved that. And then also helping seniors. And I love that, too. and helping refugees. And with refugees, I had in my mind the refugees back in the 40s and 50s, people that were being persecuted because of their Christian or Jewish faith and that they would come to America they would get a sponsor, and it would be maybe another family member, maybe it was a church. And what morphed into this was then like a Lutheran Family Services, where they were the sponsor to bring people over. Again, I'm thinking of Christian and Jewish refugees. But then the government got involved. And this would have been in the 90s. So this whole immigration thing has not been new. This has been occurring quite often. And so people would claim refugee status to get into the United States. And then there was government money that was going into these non-governmental organizations. And what they were doing instead of getting, and again, government money was being used. Some of the first things they did was get them on government assistance. And I'm thinking, well, gosh, in the old days, you had a couple of months, a wrench, you had a little bit of help and people hit the ground running and they built their lives. So all of this, I was becoming more and more uncomfortable with how this was coming down. And then when I understood the financials, and I think it was, again, this is from memory, out of a $14 million budget at the time, this was just for Lutheran Family Services in Colorado, that like $12 million of it was coming from government money, which then that was going to this whole refugee resettlement. And then I asked the question, I said, well, how are we assimilating? And are we teaching the Christian faith? And they said, well, we can't really do that because government money's not involved with that. So this has been a pipeline for many, many years. So this memo from Donald Trump is suspending these refugee admissions and it, this is CNN again, marks another example of the swift impact his actions are already having. The move stands to affect thousands of refugees who had flights already scheduled. Now, I have to pay for my own flight when I fly someplace. And most Americans do. And our young people, I'm looking at Joe. These young people that are working and paying taxes and having to pay for their cell phones, having to pay for their rent, and yet we're having people that are coming here. Both refugees would be legally, but I think – using the system I guess that's the word I would want to use but then all those that we saw even at the southern border that wanted to come here illegally getting all this free stuff it's not free stuff you can't give free stuff something to somebody for free that you have taken you have to take it from somebody else Joe
Producer Joe (Host) :
You're absolutely right. And another thing that this immigration problem has shown me is you really can't sift through the bad actors from the good actors if they're acting well. And I think that is the biggest thing I have a problem with is like I do want to help the refugees. But at the end of the day, I can't even help my grandmother. So why do I need to help them first before my grandmother? My grandmother is my main concern.
Kim Monson (Host) :
Right. And so, yes, we take care of ourselves. We take care of our own. And and I think all of us have a heart for refugees. However, the system has been figured out how to be used, and it's become really a refugee industrial complex. Just look at the numbers from the CNN report. Approximately 10,000 refugees had travel booked. 10,000, which is now canceled. And I think that this is pretty interesting, what is happening with the Trump administration on that. So any other comments on that, Joe? But in concept, it's a great idea. But then what happens is people get to a point where they use that system. They make money on it. That was the other thing is in these NGOs, these CEOs of these NGOs are making big bank.
Producer Joe (Host) :
I was actually just about to bring up that point, and the idea is great. I want to help my fellow people. That's what I care about. But at the end of the day, we got to help the people that are here for a reason. They were born in America. live the American lifestyle. That's the people I wanna help first. We gotta close down everything and make it smaller.
Kim Monson (Host) :
Yeah, we have to lower taxes. And if people have more money in their pocket, then they will make decisions on which charities to give to. And if they have a charity that is doing things that they don't agree with, then they won't give money to them. But if an NGO charity is doing things that you may not agree with, but yet they're getting your tax money via the government, that's a whole different thing. That's not a free market. So let's bring back the free market to all of that.
Producer Joe (Host) :
I absolutely agree. The free market was the thing that showed in the 60s to work and grow from there. That is what brought us back from the sad times after World War II. Literally, that is the thing that created prosperity for America.
Kim Monson (Host) :
And we're going to be getting that back, Joe. Here in Colorado, though, we've got our work cut out for us because this legislature and governor, when I say this legislature, those that are in control, That's not their goals for that, but let's lower property taxes. We have a lot of things to do. I didn't mention the bill of the day yet, and that was House Bill 25-1026. It's the repeal of copayment for Department of Corrections inmate health care. And the primary sponsors on this are both Democrats, Representative Michael Carter, Representative Lorena Garcia. And basically they're saying that if you are in – THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AS AN INMATE THAT IF YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AND YOU DON'T MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE FOR NOT LETTING THEM KNOW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY CO-PAYMENTS. AND THE COLORADO UNION OF TAXPAYERS HAS NO POSITION ON THIS. THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION AND THIS IS WHAT WE SAID. WE SAID, FIRST OF ALL, THE BILL USES THE SAFETY CLAUSE. WE TALK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME. IT IS NOT AN EMERGENCY. that inmates would have to pay copayments and fees. So right off the bat, we don't like that. And so we said this is not an emergency, therefore should be made available for voter review. Second, copays are common. Much of the general public must pay them. Why should inmates receive better treatment than law abiding citizens? No special privileges for inmates that are paid for by taxpayers.
Producer Joe (Host) :
You're absolutely right. And I hate that safety clause. I understand the reason it's there is for the changing of times to compensate for that. But at the end of the day, it is such a sneaky way they use to just get around everything. I do not like it.
Kim Monson (Host) :
It is, and I'll probably talk about this other bill tomorrow on that. So join us, Colorado Union of Taxpayers. This is the kind of analysis and conversation that you can have, and you'll know what's going on. Let me just give you a quick rundown on the number of bills that have been— Now we're at 179 bills that have been introduced here in Colorado. So you want to know what's going on. Next headline that I wanted to hit here. And again, this is so important. This is from Fox News. The State Department blocks pride BLM flags from embassies and outposts with a one flag policy. This is also, I think, fantastic because the flag that you fly over Your business or your embassy shows who your allegiance is to, and the allegiance to the United States of America and for all that it stands. The transgender flag or the – what is it? The – Pride flag, the pride flag, all that is celebrating carnal instincts. It's not thinking about the things that we can do with our brains, the creativity and innovation. All it is celebrating is, first of all, carnal instincts and acts, and carnal instincts and acts that are against nature's laws.
Producer Joe (Host) :
Absolutely right. And I can get behind two flags, the state flag, like Colorado state flag, and the American flag. Those are the two main ones because that is our government. As soon as you're showing off these other flags, you're right. It shows an allegiance and then you got a question.
Kim Monson (Host) :
Yeah. The Colorado flag, people like that. Right now, I'm not sure I can get behind it because of what's happening down at the Statehouse, but this is interesting. They did have two notable exceptions, the prisoner of war missing an action flag and the wrongful detainees flag. And so those are the only exceptions to that. But I love the fact that we're going to be focusing on Old Glory and all that she stands for.
Producer Joe (Host) :
Absolutely. And, you know, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. There's a reason those words were used for the Pledge of Allegiance. It is an important piece. We're supposed to be united and not broken up like we are today.
Kim Monson (Host) :
And my friends, that is from the voices or the voice of a 26 year old who has great hope for this this country. And that is producer Joe.
Producer Joe (Host) :
Why, thank you. I see good things, but we've got to keep this battle up.
Kim Monson (Host) :
We've got to do it. That is for sure. And we are engaging in this battle of ideas, and we get to do that because we have great sponsors. And she's going to be in studio in the next hour. And that is award-winning realtor with Remax Alliance, Karen Levine.
In today's episode, Bill Gunderson, alongside Jeff Webster, delves into major economic trends, from artificial intelligence's rising tide to the development of nuclear power projects. As they dissect market movements, they bring to light the effects of jobless claims and federal initiatives on the investment climate. Engaging anecdotes combined with hard-hitting data make this podcast a must-listen for anyone looking to understand the deeper currents of our financial world.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Thursday. It is the Thursday edition on this January 23rd of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with... With Jeff Webster today, my vice president will be filling in today. Barry's a little bit under the weather. We've had some cold weather here in Charleston. And anyways, I'm sure you've got some cold weather where you are too. The market is off to a little bit of a chilly start here. But it is a mixed market. The Dow's up 94 points. I have not really looked into the components of the Dow yet. We'll get to that in a bit. But the Dow's at 44,250. The NASDAQ got above 20,000 yesterday, closed above 20,000. It could be hitting a little technical resistance there. We're backing off today. We're down 111, a little bit of weakness in NVIDIA and Arista, some of the AI stocks. The NASDAQ's at 19,859. The S&P is down a little bit, 8 points, but it is above 6,000. It gets at 6,078. Small caps got roughed up a little bit yesterday. They're down 40 basis points again here today. And the 10-year, that could be causing a bit of an issue. It's drifted up 5 basis points today, which is a lot. to 6.65%. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. This is my 25th year of radio and 25th year being a professional money manager. I guess that's a celebration of sorts. jeff that's some kind of maybe a plaque maybe i need to print up a plaque for myself 25 years of my 25 year milestone in the business anyways look we've got six inches on the ground today here jeff you you've got about the same i think yeah yeah absolutely we it's it's pretty skatey out there uh
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My wife drove over our little bridge over the Water River between your house and mine, and there's a lot of black ice, good buildup of snow there, so we're hoping to see some melt-off this afternoon as things melt up. But, by the way, congratulations on 25 years. That's right. At a minimum, yeah, at a minimum, worthy of a certificate suitable for framing. Exactly.
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I haven't been inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame yet, but... I guess I'll have to nominate myself at some point. Hey, we're going to celebrate, too. We're bringing our crew out here to Charleston the first week of February and have a little get-together and have some fun together. Hey, what's this... Well, we'll get to that in a minute. There's a lot of news on Palantir today, but let's... Let's start with where we left off yesterday in the market. We had a good day in the market yesterday. We had a very good day. We hit a new all-time high as a firm yesterday. Not Palantir, but Netflix really helped us yesterday. And those nuclear stocks. which they are glowing here recently, and they continue to be big players. And I was interested to see news here in South Carolina. You know, when we first moved here about six, seven years ago, they had just abandoned a nuclear project that I think Dominion was building. And they had lost billions on it. And you know what? The regulatory hurdles and the environmental hurdles were just astronomical. And I think they just finally pulled the plug on the whole project. And I see they're going to reboot that project. which is more indication of the resurgence in nuclear. And that sector is a very vibrant sector, obviously. Constellation Energy hit a new all-time high yesterday. Vistra hit a new all-time high. GE Vernova, GEV hit a new all-time high. Talon Energy hit a new all-time high. And now, who knows, maybe Dominion could be a play. Let's just take a look at Dominion here real quickly. The symbol is D. No, I don't see much activity there today. It's pretty much your standard utility. But who knows? I mean, if they get into the nuclear business, that could get them going again. So we had a good day yesterday in the markets. Today's a little bit soft. I've got to believe that some of that Trump stuff You know, inauguration, fever, the big boost, which I saw predictions that that would give the market a boost, and it did. And, of course, that coupled with the soft inflation reports last week, and we've had a pretty good start to this week so far, even though we are backing off a little bit here. Okay, now, there's a lot of... You know, Trump's going to speak via... He's not going to Davos, Switzerland. But, you know, that's a big contrast. The World Economic Forum is obviously... at a polar opposite end of uh you know the trump agenda but he is speaking there today and it'll be interesting i mean all your guys are there jp or jamie diamonds there and all of the big financiers around the world and of course klaus schwab and And others, that's usually a place where Soros ends up. The tech company CEOs will be there as well.
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Thinking of my time in the industry, I can always remember that. That was something that a number of our senior executives seemed to find a spot there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's a place to make deals, right, Davos? Yeah. Because you're hobnobbing with leaders of countries and big industry CEOs. I mean, obviously, it kind of drifted in the, what was it, not the reboot, but the reset, the great reset is what they were calling it. And they got pretty controversial there. And we'll see if it gets back to kind of its original roots. Initial jobless claims. I woke up. I still had my job. You still had your job. Barry still had. So that's good news. 223,000 people did file initial jobless claims for the weekend of January 18th. That's still a very low number, very low. Anything under 300,000 is good. And that's an indicator we watch every week, every Thursday, because we feel that that's where weakness in the economy will start to show up first. It usually shows up first in the labor markets and obviously in the consumer markets. We're not seeing that yet, okay? So there are still no signs out there at all of a recession. And as I've said, we don't have an earnings problem. It's a valuation issue that makes my nose bleed a little bit here with those forward P.E. ratios up there at very high numbers right now. Right now we have a big schism going on in the world. You know, Jeff, over the years, my first presidential election was Barry Goldwater and Lyndon Johnson. That's the one I remember first. And the pendulum swings, doesn't it, back and forth? You know, the pendulum swings to the right, the pendulum swings to the left, and it just kind of goes back and forth. And this time, you know, I think we've had one of the biggest pendulum swings that we've ever seen. because I think the pendulum definitely swung too far to the left, and the results obviously were not good, and the people were not happy, and now we've had this swing back to the right, which is why this contrast between Trump speaking at Davos will be interesting today. But it's also showing up in real-life numbers. CNN is laying off hundreds of employees. And NBC News is also cutting some jobs. And, of course, MSNBC is a total train wreck. So not only is it showing up at the voting booth, but it's also showing up in these companies that went along with the big swing to the left. And now they find themselves lost a little bit. Warner Brothers Discovery, which owns CNN and Comcast, is the parent of NBC. So anyways, it's a sign of the times right now. You know, I know that the bishop that spoke at the, what's the name of the church, the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C.? ? She got a lot of airtime last night, and it didn't go over real well with kind of the people that voted for Trump and Trump himself. The EU bloc, and here's another sign of the time. Weak demand in EVs, electric vehicles. EU bloc. is going to start giving subsidies to get rid of EVs and get people into EVs, and it doesn't seem like they want to. The demand has become very weak, which is also a problem for Elon Musk. We'll be right back.
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And I'll see you next time. But he made the comment, you know, they said 500, was it 500 billion that they committed? 500 billion.
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The guy that I saw, I mean, he wasn't on the hot seat, but the CEO of Microsoft, they were, you know, one of the reporters was interviewing him and chiding him a bit about the situation and some of Musk's comments. And he goes, all I have to say is Microsoft is, stands behind its $80 billion commitment, and our money is good.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, okay, because Musk made the comment that they don't have the money. They don't have the money, $500 billion. They have not raised the billion or the money. I see that OpenAI, SoftBank, Oracle, and MGX will commit roughly $45 billion in total. Well, that's a long ways from $500 billion. OpenAI recently raised $6.6 billion in new funding. So I think maybe it's going to be over the years that's what it will add up to. And that's taking just a little bit of life out of AI today. Yesterday, ARM had a huge day. NVIDIA had a huge day. It continues to blow by Apple and pass it. as the biggest market cap company out there. Microsoft had a really good day yesterday. Oracle had a good day. But there's just a little bit of wind coming out of the sails today after Musk made the comments that they don't have anywhere near that kind of money secured yet. So anyways, that's the situation on that. I like this next one, OpenAI. Now, that's Altman. That's Sam Altman. And, of course, Microsoft has a huge investment in the company. Musk was in on the formation of the company. OpenAI wants to develop an agent with skills of an engineer. Can you imagine that? Open AI, artificial intelligence designing airplanes and rocket ships and whatever else, military equipment, et cetera. And, you know, I've had a lot of engineers as clients over the years. You know, they always make a joke about engineers. If Open AI wants to develop something,
SPEAKER 04 :
an agent with the skills of an engineer it's got to question everything and want you know proof right that's that's always been whenever i don't right i'm sure you have that experience yeah yeah i don't have the reference at my fingertips but earlier this week i saw a comment from mark benioff the ceo of salesforce.com indicating that I think it was 2030, he said, we will not have software engineers. It will all be done by AI. Yeah, well, we'll see.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. Yeah, I can see something which is kind of repetitive, software engineers, but still it takes a lot of creative thinking. And, you know, obviously what they're going to do is feed in data, data, data, data to mimic and follow what engineers do. And then from that, develop models that will mimic, you know, what they do. I don't know. We're going down a scary path, in my opinion. Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
We still need a wizard behind the curtains pulling all the strings and making everything come together. I still don't... I mean, conceptually, I get it. I just don't know how realistic it is in the near term, you know, or even in the next five or ten years.
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Yeah, well, when they want to replace God with AI, which I've heard Altman say, imagine we could get scriptures that are right and correct. Now, okay, all right, I don't be going down that avenue. Nuclear stocks rally a South Carolina utility to reboot huge project to meet AI demand. I think this is just another witness of... the tremendous needs that we have going forward. You know, they had two nuclear power plants under construction. This is Santee Cooper. The Cooper River is just... A few miles from me, and I've been up the Cooper River, and I've seen the big power plants up there. They halted those in 2017. They had spent $9 billion. Santee Cooper now owns 100% of the assets at the plant. but they want to now reboot that whole thing and build those nuclear reactors, which is helping Constellation Energy today and Vistra. I've never seen a time... Well, yes, there was a time when utilities became great growth stocks. There was a time in California. This was during the Enron. Remember when those guys were... Were brokers in the middle and they could raise and lower the price? Governor Gray Davis bought in and bought a bunch of energy futures way too high and lost a lot of money. It cost him his job. He was recalled as the governor. in California. And I remember companies, Enron was a player, Marant was a player. This company that Vistra recently bought, let's see, or yeah, I can't remember the name of that one, but they were a player also in that. And there were actually energy brokers and dealers, and there still are, right? Dealing. They knew where the needs were, and that affected the price of the energy that they would deliver.
SPEAKER 04 :
here's the deal phil you talked about this yesterday on the show it all centers around data centers yeah it's all centers around data centers you know the picks and shovels to build these data centers the infrastructure that's needed you know the ducting the air conditioning the heating the cooling all that type of stuff the energy those are the things that Again, you know, we look at the board today. The energy stocks, the nuclear stocks are still doing well. Yeah. You know, one of my favorite ticks and shovels companies around the data centers.
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Yeah, Vertiv, right? VRT. That's hitting a new high again today. Yeah. Well, you know, and it's also been the death of wind and solar, really. I mean, because... It's this data center need and really the NVIDIA chip and all the power that it needs. There was a big wake-up call. And the wake-up call was solar and wind aren't even going to be a drop in the bucket. And that's really killed the solar and wind stocks. And the pendulum has shifted heavily. towards nuclear. Okay, Palantir could be the next Oracle or Salesforce over the coming years, says Wedbush. And you sent me something about, I know the Army is wanting to change out the goggles that the guys use. When we come back, I want to talk a little bit about Palantir and all of the irons in the fire that Palantir has. We'll be right back.
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But it must have been the wrong time. I done said the right thing. But it must have used the wrong line.
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This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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and welcome back here to the uh second half of today's best stocks now show where right now we have uh
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Let's see. We've got the Dow up a little, up 79. The NASDAQ is down 63. Now, when I was in New York City a few weeks back, closing bell at the NASDAQ, I was also interviewed and asked what my top A conviction pick for 2025 was, I said, Palantir. And I see today that Wedbush is saying that it's one of their top conviction picks. Now, the valuation is high. There's no question about it. But here's what Wedbush has to say. And you know a lot more about the company than I do, you know, what they do for a living and all this and that. Wedbush is saying that they've got the premier artificial intelligence platform. Platform, meaning that they offer a lot. to a lot of different companies with their platform. And, you know, they've got a lot of irons in the fire. Give me your thoughts on Palantir, Jeff.
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Yeah, so first of all, you know, you talked, there's a comment about it becoming like an Oracle or Salesforce platform. You know, I've thought that for quite a while. You know, in the software industry, as we would meet with senior level executives, you'd always hear that every company has to have a few different solutions. You know, ServiceNow, Salesforce, Workday. You know, there were different things that every company would have some type of engagement with those organizations. And I honestly believe over the next couple of years, Palantir is going to become one of those companies. Their ability to analyze data and to slice it and dice it and allow leaders of companies or organizations in the military or what have you to make decisions. is outstanding. And, of course, the big thing that has gotten a lot of exposure here over the last day or two is we've got this new Army contract that potentially could change for some $20 billion. It's the integrated visual augmentation system. And currently, Microsoft has that contract. You know, Bill, you and I might have some of our grandkids that have those goggle headsets where you can play around a golf or, you know, dance to the music or whatever. It's a very similar type of technology, but it's on a much larger commercial scale. Microsoft has their Halo Lens 2 heads-up display. And it's a single device that allows soldiers to be used both in combat and in training. However, they've recently discovered some challenges with it, you know, discomfort, dizziness, nausea, and some reliability issues. So they're looking at the possibility of the change. And so folks that are looking at a Palantir investment, you know, be cautious that this is something that may happen. Right. And if it does happen, it takes time. They land the contract, which is a good thing. They will get orders, which is another good thing. But ultimately, they have to deliver to be able to realize revenue. And then, of course, you know, with the revenue will come, you know, the critical earnings piece that you harp on so often. So just think about those types of things. You need to look at it as an investment and not a trade. And it could be something that could be very powerful. Certainly, I think both you and I are bullish on the outlook for this organization.
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Yeah, Palantir seems to have good connections with the government. And that's one of the things that Dan Ives at Wedbush says. He says that Palantir's in the sweet spot to benefit from a tidal wave of federal spending on AI. I mean, you have a president now who's surrounded by AI people, and that seems to me like that can only be bullish for Palantir. And, you know, that's not their only – I mean, they're a security company. They help crypto. They have crypto exposure. So, you know, I just think they're in a very sweet spot in a lot of ways. Now, quantum computing. You know, these companies got blasted out of the water by Jensen Wang a few weeks ago, but they continue to slowly climb their way back. And I see D-Wave Quantum today is doing a secondary offering, and the stock is actually up 2%. which usually when they do a secondary offering, it drives them down. Then I see QUBT is also doing an offering. Those seem to be two of the big ones, QUBT and the other one, D-Wave. Quantum is also selling 8.5 million shares, and it's up 4.2% on that news. So there are animal spirits out there in this quantum space. And you made some comments to me that, yeah, the ultimate quantum computer may be out there a couple of decades away, but in the interim, between now and then, what are some of the baby steps that companies are benefiting now? They're spending on quantum now, right? Right.
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They are. I mean, they're researching. You know, my former CEO with SAP, Christian Klein, came out last week and indicated that, you know, SAP would be utilizing quantum computing within the next three years or so. You know, they have their big ERP mission-critical systems, and that requires a lot of computing horsepower to run those applications. There's others, I think, that indicate while the panacea may be out there in the future, there's certainly going to be applications over the next few years to take advantage of that.
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Yeah, and by the way, SAP's been hitting new all-time highs recently. And recently NVIDIA announced that they're going to have a quantum day. So, I mean, if it's 20 to 30 years out there, they wouldn't be having a quantum day here in the next several months. Okay, what's the one that RFK owns? He owns a biotech stock. He's going to divest most of the stocks that he owns, but the one biotech that caught my eye, caught my eye was CRISPR, C-R-S-P, which is that, you know, changing the genes, taking genes out of your body, putting them in a test tube, reprogramming those genes, putting them back in your body. That is out there on the frontier, but interesting to see that RFK had an investment in several stocks, including CRISPR, C-R-S-P. He also owns shares of Apple, Amazon, Zscaler, Marathon Digital, Progressive Corp., and S-P-I-Y, Spyder. That's the S-P-Y. You know, ETF. Okay, here's another one that Visual Neurosciences, VIGL is in the news today, Phase II Alzheimer's. And, of course, that remains one of the holy grails out there. There's a couple, you know, Lilly has theirs, Biogen has theirs. They're helping. But, you know, they're a long ways from really helping. Vigil is a small one. I have it in my app, and I did a little tweaking on it today. V-I-G-L is up 10.3% today. It's only a $90 million company out of Watertown, Massachusetts. Near Boston, Vigil is one I put on my watch list. Drones continue to get a lot of attention. I've been watching Red Cat, R-C-A-T. I think there's going to be a lot of government spending in the drone space. And Red Cat did get a $510,000. That's pretty small, but it's not bad. $518,000 order from the Army National Guard. made an order of some of their drones. And this has been a hot stock, Red Cat. It's gone from $1 to $8.56 here recently. We also have... Well, we'll go off in a totally different direction here. Boston Beer is cut at Piper Sandler after soft... Hard Mountain Dew launch. Okay, I didn't know they had launched a Hard Mountain Dew. That almost seems sacrilegious to me. I do like Mountain Dew. I do not drink. But Jeff doesn't drink either. But a Hard Mountain Dew, it didn't go over well over at Boston Beer. We'll have to talk. We have some friends that work for Piper Sandler. We'll have to talk about that. But Boston Beer did come out. They came out with one of those Truly. It might be Truly or whatever, those hard drinks that they came up with. But Boston Beer not doing well with their Hard Mountain Dew. You don't want to slip any of that in the cooler by accident on the 4th of July. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show.
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with Bill Gunderson and Jeff Webster joining us here today. We do have some earnings coming in here. We are in earnings season. We're closing up 2024, the fourth quarter of 2024. I can't tell you how important these earnings are. They drive the bus. They've been driving the bus since 2009, you know, and we've had earnings increase every single year since then, except for the COVID year and one other year. We had just a little jog lower. But we've gone from $60 per share in earnings, and we could get as high as $320 to $310 per share in earnings before this run in the S&P 500 is all over. We watch earnings very closely. GE Aerospace today. which, of course, GE broke into three companies. The aerospace division, which has a lot of irons in the fire, reported today not bad. Their sales were up 14% year over year. That's not too bad for a $217 billion company. And their earnings were up 28%. And I got to tell you, the Larry Culp era at GE continues to go very, very well. Jeff, I have a nephew who, he's uber smart. I mean, it must run in the family, right? I guess somewhere there were some good genes. Anyways, he got a full ride to Stanford. phd full ride went to harvard was a professor there but you know he was involved with clay christiansen who was the guy you know all about great clip christiansen and uh the uh what what's the word i'm looking for companies that uh not disruptors disruptors disruptors that's right inventors dilemma So that definitely runs in the family blood to be disruptors and to buy into disruptive companies. And he speaks all over the world on disruptors and disruptive, the whole model behind it, the emotions, the thinking behind it. And he told me one day he gave a lecture to a big crowd somewhere, and a guy came up to him afterwards and said, I really enjoyed your presentation. And it was Larry Culp. I don't know if Larry Culp, before GE, Larry Culp was, I can't think of the company right now. It's still a big public traded company. But Culp came in and divided the GE into three companies, medical, power, and aerospace. And if you add up how much those three are worth today versus, and of course, if you were an investor in GE at the time, you got those spinoffs. It's not like they were separate companies. No, you got shares in the spinoffs. So the sum of the parts was definitely worth a lot more than the whole. This is a perfect textbook example of that strategy in investing. That's what a lot of these activist investors do. I mean, they go into companies where they see if you broke your company up into some parts. Now, it hasn't always worked that way. If you got a bad company to begin with, Hewlett Packard broke off their services business. I mean, you've seen a lot of companies over the year break off certain companies that they had thinking that it would work out, but it didn't work out. But in this case, GE is up 7% today on that news, and they're doing a $7 billion buyback, which takes shares off the market. That's accretive to earnings. GE is a dividend payer, pays a half a percent, and the buyback, everybody seems to like that. Okay, American Airlines, which is in the NASDAQ 100, it's down 9.8% today. That's one of the small reasons why the NASDAQ is down today, but also you're getting a little bit of a sell-off in AI.
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Yeah, basically the American, they're down on a rough outlook. They're a little bit pessimistic about what air travel is going to look like here over the next 90 to 180 days, I think.
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Yeah, I'm surprised because the airline stocks have been doing really, really well. Now, believe it or not, even in today's AI age and quantum computing age, we still need railroads. All of those containers on those ships got to get to their destinations. We haven't found a better way yet than trucks and railroads. Union Pacific is up 4.3% today. That's a good sign that things are moving. But it's not a growth company at all. I mean, this is like... Your grandfather's dividend payer out of Omaha, Nebraska.
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A 1.28% bill over the last 12 months. Yeah. And a similar company, CFX, also, I think, reports or has reported they're up slightly, but also same rate. Same type of scenario. They're actually down over the last 12 months, 3.44%.
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And then the big, big loser. Now, Barry could weigh in on this because he's got teenagers that play video games. Electronic arts, which really... It kind of started this whole revolution. Well, I mean, you can go back to Nintendo and all of that.
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EA forced you in the game.
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Yeah, they took it to another level with Madden Sports and all NBA and everything. That thing is down 18% today. I guess time has passed them by a little bit. They've become a stodgy old growth stock of yesteryear. I remember when they were on the cutting edge and people couldn't wait until the next version of Madden Football or whatever it's called now came out. So anyways, that's your big loser for the day. We don't own any of those stocks. We consider all of them to be a little bit. And then last but not least, Freeport-McMoran, which is materials. Materials, that's a bad place to be invested in right now. Steel, aluminum, copper, coal, all of that stuff, not good. Freeport-McMoran is hitting a new 52-week low. And yet, you know, that's one that I see in a lot of portfolios that come to us. I sell it on day one. What are you going to do day one when that portfolio comes in? Get rid of the stodgy old growth stocks of yesteryear. Well, that's today's show. I just can't believe the response that we've had to the four-week trial today. I am having so much fun every single day. In fact, I ended my message yesterday. I said, man, I had a lot of fun yesterday. I can't wait to come back and do it again tomorrow. Well, here we are. Today was tomorrow, and I can't wait to do it again tomorrow. I just love all the challenges and everything that the stock market brings along and hope to share that knowledge with you and enjoy and hopefully make a little money along the way. I'll do my best. Give us a call at 855-611-BEST for an appointment with us or sign up for the free trial at GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this intriguing episode, explore the enigmatic note left by Joe Biden for Donald Trump. How does such a gracious message align with previous rhetoric branding Trump as a fascist? We also examine Trump’s execution of power in his second term, challenging the norms with actions against alleged enemies and navigating the tumultuous waters of immigration policy—all while staying true to his campaign promises.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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Every day the show starts, the man says, he's your happy conservative warrior. I don't know how much happier I could get. If I was any happier, I'd have to just, I don't know, go pop a champagne cork and just sit on a beach and count our lucky blessings. Count our lucky stars. My gosh. Trump sending troops to the border, firing thousands of Biden political appointees. The left is freaking out, of course. They're melting down as they are wont to do. But you have to wonder if the American people are on to the big lie, and that is that he's a fascist. He told Sean Hannity last night, look, I went through four years of hell. I spent millions and millions in legal fees. I won, but I did it the hard way. He paid a heavy price. Imagine what it must feel like to be called a fascistic dictator. Biden did it, right? I mean, we could pull out the tape of Biden's, the hits of Biden calling him a dictator, an Adolf Hitler wannabe. So when Peter Doocy of Fox News said to Trump the other day at the Oval Office, have you found the letter yet? And Trump opens up the desk drawer and says, wow, there's a letter from Biden. It's a tradition, right? The outgoing president leaves a personal note to the incoming president. And they put it in that famous resolute desk. And it was, I mean, emblematic of the era we're living in. It took the TV reporter to tell Trump, look, President Trump, look in your desk and you'll find the note. Oh, there it is. Well, he revealed the contents of the letter that Joe Biden wrote to Donald Trump. Now, I mean, riddle me this, Batman. What do you say to a fascist? Right? Right? It's a fair question. If you think the guy's going to be a dictator and a monster and an Adolf Hitler, what do you put in a letter to him? Well, we know, thanks to Peter Doocy's efforts and Trump's willingness to share the contents of that letter with the American people. And incidentally, I think that's unprecedented. Most presidents, I don't believe, reveal what the predecessor writes to the new president. So that's Trump. Trump doesn't, he's very, he's utterly transparent. What you see is what you get with this guy. He says he's going to close the border, he's going to close the border. He says he's going to send troops to the border, he's going to send troops to the border. He goes down the list of all the promises he makes and all the promises he'll keep. He says that the January Sixers were treated terribly and unfairly punished. The punishment didn't fit the crime. I'm going to pardon him. He pardons him. I mean, on and on, the guy does what he says. And he gives interviews, and he sits down with hostile reporters, and he talks, and he talks. There's no hidden agenda here. He's the antithesis of the deep state. So, Trump being Trump, he revealed what Joe Biden wrote to him. Now, again, you remember and you keep in mind as I read this brief letter what they said about President Trump. So at the very least, you'd think, well, it's going to be a very awkward note. Because if you're writing a note to a dictator, if you're leaving a letter behind for a fascist, You've got to be at least diplomatic, but you'll be cold. It'll be awkward. It'll be perfunctory. It'll be maybe formal, but it won't be like it normally would be because this isn't normal because it's not normal that we've got Adolf Hitler at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Here's the letter, and I quote, Dear President Trump, As I take leave of this sacred office, I wish you and your family all the best in the next four years. The American people and people around the world look to this house for steadiness in the inevitable storms of history. And my prayer is that in the coming years will be a time of prosperity, peace, and grace for our nation. That isn't even grammatically correct. And my prayer is that in the coming years will be a time of prosperity, peace, and grace for our nation. A little awkward there, but okay. May God bless you and guide you as he has blessed and guided our beloved country since our founding. Is that what you say to a fascist? Is that what you write to a dictator? May God bless you, Adolf? May the Lord guide you, Benito Mussolini? I mean, do you realize how we were conned by all of them? They never thought Trump was a dictator. They never believed he was some awful, horrific dictator. evil guy. Truth to tell, Biden is probably like the rest of us. He probably likes the guy. I mean, you don't write a letter like that. You just don't. You'd say, good luck or, you know, I mean, I don't even know what you'd say to a Hitler. I don't know what you'd say. But you sure wouldn't say that. You sure wouldn't. Bless you and God bless you and may God keep you and guide you. Are you kidding me? And a lot of people are texting me on the MyPillow text line that say he didn't write it. Well, I think he did. Just humor me for a minute as we try to... I want to just spend a couple of minutes on this. Humor me and let's pretend... or stipulate that he wrote it, okay? He wrote the letter, all right? Let's say Biden left him a letter that says, the American people look to this house for steadiness. May God bless you. I wish you and your family all the best. Let's say Biden wrote that. That does confirm that he never believed that Trump is a bad guy. Doesn't this confirm what we've said all along? that none of them believe that Trump is a bad guy? We're in the Relief Factor studios. Welcome aboard. It's Thursday, January 23rd, 2025. We have a couple of open lines for you. 800-655-MIKE is my number. 800-655-6453. One phone number does it all. You can text us on the MyPillow text line or call me. But I want to put your voice front and center. 800-655-6453. I want you to tell me what you make. of this fawning, warm, welcoming letter from Joe Biden to Donald J. Trump. Doesn't it confirm that the jig is up? That they like him too? 800-655-MIKE. Join us. The world outside looks so uncut.
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Thank you.
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Mike Gallagher.
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Lots of great text messages pouring in on the MyPillow text line and I love it so much. I always love the instant feedback you give me. It's like our own personal focus group. I was listening to Chris Stegall this morning talk about the Harumph Society. He loves his Harumph Society, and I know everybody loves that too. And, you know, our little club are people who text the show regularly, thanks to MyPillow. I mean, they sponsor and support the text line. Please don't ever text and drive, or text at a red light at least, or pull over. Standard text messaging rates can apply. Mike, Biden's letter just proves that they only tried to win the election by lying in order to scare people into voting for the Democrats. They used the Hitler accusation as a tool, not believing it one bit. It's true. It's absolutely true. And I think he wrote it. I have a hunch he voted, Biden voted for Trump. Now, that may sound outrageous, but considering what they did to him, the coup that they committed against him, forcing him out of office. There are all these reports now about the icy relationship between Biden and Kamala. You think? I mean, she was his pick to be his vice presidential running mate because of her skin color. and her gender. That's it. He promised, I'm going to have a black female as my vice presidential running mate. And instead of collectively vomiting at the idea that somebody would be selected simply based on the color of their skin and their gender, she wound up being the presidential candidate for a few months. Of course he hates her. And of course she hates him. If he had stepped down when they wanted him to, maybe they would have had a better chance of winning. I'll bet Joe and Jill Biden voted for Donald Trump. That letter that he left for Trump in the desk is a letter from somebody who's a supporter. That's a letter from somebody who said, I'm MAGA. I'm voting for you. Scott's in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Scott, welcome aboard. How you doing?
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Good. Good. I just wanted to add to the conversation that on the Laura Ingraham show last night, they talked about the letter, and it was, Written in cursive, and it was barely legible.
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That means he wrote it. That proves he wrote it, Scott. You know? And I think you're right. Liberals don't even know how to write in cursive. No, no. Well, nobody under the age of 70 knows how to write in cursive. Exactly. All right. I think you're right. And he's always... And whenever he sees Trump, he always smiles. Yep. Oh, I know. I still wonder what Barron said to him. Barron, although there's another video angle I saw last night where Barron was actually kind of leaning towards Jill Biden when Barron leaned in to shake their hands at the inauguration, and Biden lost his smile. He was smiling at the kid, and then he stopped smiling. I'll bet he said, hey, raiding my mother's underwear drawer was a really bad idea, old man, wasn't it? Bert's in Largo, Florida. Hey, Bert. How are you doing today?
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Hi, Mike. Hi. I disagree with what you said about the letter. I think that the letter is an escape hatch.
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How so?
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An escape for who? Well, I think that Biden is trying to get Trump to not bring charges against him.
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Oh, to try to cozy up to him so he doesn't wind up in jail.
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Yeah, peddling political influence, U.S. Code 8, Section 1324, and violation of other immigration laws. I mean, Biden's got a list of things he did. People died because of what he did.
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Remember when he was asked, would you pardon yourself? We got a really bad connection here, Bert. I don't know if you're on a speaker or whatever. I don't think you can hear me, and I can barely hear you. But remember when Biden was asked if he would pardon himself? Red State wrote about that today, how revealing that was. If Biden only pardons people who he thinks did something wrong, well, then clearly he thinks Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and Betty Thompson and Anthony Fauci and all the rest of them did something wrong. If you're only going to pardon... And Biden was asked, do we have that clip, Christian? Can you pull that? We played it yesterday or two days ago a lot. This stunned me. Are you going to pardon yourself? And Biden was shocked. He said, pardon myself? Why would I pardon myself? I don't need to pardon myself for crying out loud. I didn't do anything wrong. So, obviously, you think that all these folks you pardoned did something wrong. John's in Phoenix. Hey, John.
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Yes, I think this is one of the few times that Biden actually wrote something and said something that came out of Biden because everything else that he says was all written in front of him and teleprompter and stuff like that.
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Sure, sure. And you do think it was actually him? Yes, yes, most definitely. All right, appreciate it very much. I'm really, I think I'm doing pretty good, Eric. What do you think, Tracy? Christian, I'm doing so good. We did a change in the way I do the show in the studio. And I'm, look, just like I might be one of the few left that writes in cursive. No, somebody just texted me, hey, Mike, I'm 47. I know how to write in cursive. But I've always had like a gazillion monitors in here. And the Salem News Channel folks said, Mike, you've got too many monitors. You're cluttering up the desk. I'm on one monitor today. But I'm tabbing from screen to screen. Pray for me. But doggone it, I'm so brave. There's no better time than right now to call my friends at PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition to start your journey to a healthier you. As I hear from you about how PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition has changed your life, I know that each one of us has had our own reasons for starting. I started my journey because I gained enough weight and was ready to make a change. I sat down with Dr. Ashley Lucas, and like they say, the rest was history. I lost 53 pounds, and I've kept it off. We all have different reasons for starting. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or just go to MyPhDWeightLoss.com, MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Gellerin.
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They're calling it President Trump's revenge tour. He's flexing his vast new powers to target what he describes as the enemies from within. And look at these headlines just a couple of days into his presidency, his second term. Justice Department directs prosecutors to probe local efforts to obstruct immigration enforcement. The Pentagon is sending 1,500 active duty troops to help secure the U.S.-Mexico border. Trump tells the feds to report any COVID or covert DEI work. Trump fires all government DEI staffers, ending affirmative action for federal contractors. Trump suggested to Sean Hannity last night on Fox News that we ought to eliminate FEMA because FEMA did a whole lot of people in North Carolina dirty. I hear every day I get an email or two or more from people in the Carolinas who tell me that America cannot believe the devastation today. as a result of the hurricane and the storms, and how FEMA hasn't done anything to help. And Trump's position is, look, we've got to beef up the states. We can help them with funding, but the states have to step up and help their citizens. We'll help fund it, but you can't rely on this army of people from FEMA who may or may not show up, depending on whether it's a red state or a blue state. And back to the headline about Lake and Riley. The Lake and Riley Act has been passed. Boy, it's a real fascistic kind of a thing. It gives our country the right to detain illegals charged with a crime. You're here illegally. You get charged with a crime. ICE gets to get involved, and you can get detained and eventually deported, depending on the outcome of the case. Not really onerous. Doesn't seem to me to be a bridge too far, that an illegal who's charged with a crime, arrested and charged with a crime, has to face detainment and possible deportation. What lunatic thinks that's a bad idea? Well, 156 of them. Because 156 Democrats on Capitol Hill voted against the Lake and Riley Act. And I'm just absolutely mystified by this. What in the world could anybody say against the Lake and Riley Act? How does any elected representative... voice opposition to legislation that would force illegals to be detained by ICE if they're charged with a crime. I'm trying to follow their thinking. Look, I'm a pretty open-minded guy. I'm in a great mood today. We have so much winning going on. We've got so many good things happening. We've got this country is coming. I think this country is coming together. and certainly headed in a whole different direction. So let's take a look into the mind, let's peer into the thinking of a prominent American Democrat in Congress. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took to the floor of the House yesterday, railing against the Lake and Riley Act. Of course, the act was named for the young woman from Georgia who was brutally killed by an illegal. So here's AOC's argument against what I believe, and I think you believe, is common sense legislation that allows America to detain illegals charged with a crime.
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I want the American people to know what is in this bill. Because in the guise and in the wake of tragedy, we are seeing a fundamental erosion of our civil rights in this bill. If a person is so much as accused of a crime, if someone wants to point a finger and accuse someone of shoplifting, they will be rounded up and put into a private detention camp and sent out for deportation without a day in court. So when a private prison camp opens in your town and they say, we didn't know this was going to happen, know that they did and they voted for it.
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I don't even know how to respond to that kind of idiocy. Private prison camps. Now, you know what I heard when she said that? The funniest movie ever made, in my opinion, in my humble estimation. There's a couple of classics. Christmas Vacation, one of my favorite funny movies. But the absolute fall out of your chair, roll around on the floor, laughing out loud movie is Bridesmaids. Ever seen Bridesmaids? Kirsten Wiig. It's got some funny Melissa McCarthy. And it is hysterical. It's a little dirty. I think it's problem. Sure, it's rated R. But there are some scenes. It's like the movie is a series of one-act plays. There's the scene in the bridal shop. There's the scene, I mean, now if you rent the movie or watch it, the very first scene is very over the top, sort of a funny sexual situation with Kristen Wiig, who I think is one of the classic comic actors of our time. Anyway, there's a scene where she hates to fly and she's afraid to fly. And she takes pills and then her seatmate gives her some vodka or something to wash it down with and she gets all high on the flight. And she's like roaming up and down the plane, drunk. And she's in coach, and her friends are up in first class, and she keeps trying to sneak into first class. And the flight attendant keeps kicking her out of first class. And she says to the flight attendant, what are you doing to me? It's civil rights. It's civil rights. That's what I hear from AOC. It's civil rights. We can't detain illegals. who've been charged with crimes, it's civil rights. That's all I hear from AOC. She's as dumb as the character in the movie, who's actually smarter. I would vote for the character in that movie, Bridesmaids, over AOC any day of the week. She's warm and she's funny and she's got the bake shop that went out of business, but she's a loyal friend and she's going through rough times, but she's at her core a good person. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is none of that. Imagine arguing against a bill that would expect that if you're illegal, you're not supposed to be here in the first place, and you're charged with a crime, whatever it is. Hey, I'll go along with you, AOC. Shoplifting. You're going in and you're ripping off Walgreens and you get arrested for it? You get detained and deported. That's normal. You know, that's a normal reaction. How do you even come to grips with the idiot? Can we talk about the 156 Democrats who voted against the Lake and Riley Act? Is there anybody within the sound of my voice that thinks AOC has a point? Welcome aboard. It is Thursday. We are ready to roll in the Relief Factor studios. We're streaming again today up on X. And I know there was a little bit of an iPhone glitch around the country yesterday, but maybe that's all been worked out. So you can... Engage in the show from the Salem News Channel via X today. Just follow us at Gallagher Show. Don't forget to follow. You've got to follow us. That's all we ask. 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The Mike Gallagher Show. Deported all immigrants who are here illegally, 55% of the New York Times. Marquette, 64%. CBS News, 57%. ABC News with a slightly different question, 56%. A majority of Americans, in fact, when they're asked this blunt question, which I believe gets at the underlying feelings, do, in fact, want to deport all immigrants who are here illegally. There's no arguing with these different numbers because they're all essentially the same across four different pollsters.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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I was thinking a lot about my history with Sean Hannity last night when I saw him sit down with President Trump in the Oval Office for Trump's first post-inauguration interview. They went one-on-one. You know, Sean and I go way back. In fact, we both started at WABC Radio at about the same time. Sean was brought to New York not as a radio host but to be one of the original primetime hosts of a fledgling Fox News channel. And then Phil Boyce hired Sean to do, I think it was a nighttime, an evening show, originally at WABC. And not long after that, I started there after having worked in Albany. And anyway, Sean and I had a lot of history together, and I just am always so proud of his success. And he's, of course, become a household name and a good friend of President Trump. So I'm sure that's why Trump gave Sean that first post-inauguration interview. And I love seeing good things happen to friends of mine. I mean, Sean is engaged now to Ainsley Earhart. They don't make a big deal about it over on Fox News. But, you know, she's one of the hosts of Fox and Friends. And, of course, just kind of an interesting dynamic. You know, Sean, of course, is in Florida now. Ainsley works in New York with Fox and Friends. So I guess they get together on the weekends. which, you know, when you have a fleet of private jets and Sikorsky helicopters and rocket ships, I guess you can do that. It's not hard. It's an easy commute. I did it, although I took the Amtrak. Denise and the kids were up in Albany, and I was in the city in some ratty apartment over by York Avenue there in Manhattan. And we'd get on the train every Friday after the show and take the train up to Albany and we'd spend the weekend together. It's a little bit nicer for Sean and Ainsley, I think. I think that the perks of their lives are maybe a little bit better than mine. But look, I've got no complaints. And I'm proud of him and I'm happy for him and I'm glad for his success. And I was glad to see him ask Trump about the issue that really bothers me. And I've been reluctant this week. But I've got to get out of this mode. Look, Trump got elected. I think I did my part. I worked hard. I didn't agree with piling on. And I don't want to ever pile on. Because I love the direction our country is going in right now. And I'm grateful. And I'm grateful to every single one of you who voted for him. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. So I think I can kind of be maybe a little bit more objective than I was during the campaign and be a little more blunt about my true feelings over things that he does. And I've said all along, nobody agrees with everything somebody does. And I'm not going to agree with everything. And I have to confess, I am bothered by the pardon of people who were violent on January 6th. And let me tell you why. First of all, Trump's answer is perfectly plausible. It's a perfectly good answer. All of the January 6ers, he said, have been punished enough. And I agree with that. How many years do you go to jail for breaking a window? How many years are you supposed to spend in solitary confinement for being violent with a police officer? I mean, 100?
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50?
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And, you know, I understand the criticism. Well, look, this is a bit of a distraction. Let's move on. Yes, but... This is a fascinating issue, to me at least, the issue about the difference between a pardon and a commuting of a sentence. If you fought a police officer that day, if you assaulted a police officer on January 6th, I admit I'm not comfortable with that person getting a pardon. A pardon is like wiping the slate clean. A commutation means I'm commuting your sentence. but I'm certainly not going to excuse you for fighting with cops. And that's what Sean asked. That was what led to this question last night in this really riveting interview that Sean conducted with the 45th and 47th president in the Oval Office.
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The only criticism or pushback I've seen is about people that were convicted or were involved in incidents where they were violent with police. Why did they get a pardon?
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Number of reasons. Number one, they were in there for three and a half years, a long time. And in many solitary confinement, treated like nobody's ever been treated so badly. They were treated like the worst criminals in history. And you know what they were there for? They were protesting the vote. Because they knew the election was rigged and they were protesting the vote. And that you should be allowed to protest a vote. You should be allowed to. You know, the day when the day comes, you shouldn't be able to invade the Capitol. Ready? Most of the people were absolutely innocent. OK, but forgetting all about that, these people have served. horribly a long time, it would be very, very cumbersome to go and look. You know how many people we're talking about? 1,500 people. Almost all of them are, should not have been, this should not have happened. And the other thing is this. Some of those people with the police, true, but they were very minor incidents, okay? You know, they get built up by that couple of fake guys that are on CNN all the time. Nobody watches. They were very... minor incidents and it was time you have murderers in Philadelphia you have murderers in Los Angeles that don't even get any time they don't even collect them and they know they're there to be collected and then they go on television and act holier than thou about this one or that one now he's totally right I agree with everything he said I just struggle with pardoning somebody who assaulted a cop
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And, look, as somebody pointed out from California, it's got a text message on the MyPillow text line, assault on a police officer typically has a two- to three-year sentence. And all of them did more than that. Absolutely. I agree. It was time for them to get out. There were people sentenced to 15, 20 years. There were some people sentenced to prison for parading, for walking, going through an open door. And that's garbage. That is bull crap. There's no reason for that. So I get it. But, you know, as Julie Kelly confirmed to us yesterday, President Trump essentially said, you know, to heck with it. Let's just pardon them all. They were trying to go on a case-by-case basis for all 1,500 of them. And finally, Trump and his team said, forget it. Let's just give them a blanket pardon. If I had any reservations... And I suspect Sean does, too. I haven't talked to him about it, but I think that's why Sean asked the question. Why pardon somebody who would even think about assaulting a police officer? 800-655-MIKE. Let me get your reaction to all of it. And feel free to disagree. I suspect you will. That's okay. Let me get your take on it. Again. Difference between a pardon and a commutation. Why pardon all of them, including those who assaulted law enforcement? Got a problem with that. Let's see if you do, too. 800-655-6453. Hope you join us.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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Are you getting tired of the winning? I mean, are you getting... I mean, we talk about being deliciously fatigued by keeping track of everything. Do you think... Do people get tired of hearing us just revel in DEI gone, birthright citizenship gone, Green New Deal gone, gender sanity, climate sanity? I mean...
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I said that yesterday repeatedly. Are you tired of winning? It's like it's a dream that we don't want to wake up from. And he sat down last night with kind of a freewheeling conversation with Sean Hannity. And I like that Sean asked him about... Look, why pardon people who assaulted cops? And it's a fair question. It's a reasonable question. And his answer was a reasonable one. His answer was, okay, it's what I basically was saying. How long are you going to incarcerate somebody? I mean, and make no mistake, their lives were destroyed. So in other words, this isn't just about being in a nice, cushy jail. And incidentally, anything but. They were shuttled from one prison to another. They had all their... I mean, the way these people have been treated, let's face it, they're in a different category. Now, a different class of prisoner. Now, to the left and to people who hate Trump and people who hate Trump supporters, that's perfectly okay. That's normal. That's all right. They're a different... They tried to overthrow the government, Mark. They're monsters. Democracy was almost in the breach. They were going to hang. Right. They had a guillotine or a noose. I mean, this is all the hysteria. And the gig is up. I mean, it's absolutely, it's over. And some of these judges now are freaking out. I saw one headline this morning, judges push back against Trump's pardon, undoing years of the work they did. Oh, yeah. You put years of your work as a judge to destroy the lives of people, some of whom, maybe let me clarify, many of whom walked into the wrong area. They just were walking because that conviction was parading. The parading conviction, you went to jail. Some of those January Sixers went to jail. So when he asked Trump about, I think, I asked Julie Kelly yesterday, and if you missed my interview with Julie Kelly, we have it posted on YouTube. I hope you follow my YouTube channel. We're diving our brave new world. We're back into Facebook and Instagram and X and everything else. And Julie Kelly, who's the author of January Sixth, and she's on Substack, this you know she pointed out the the the way these prisoners have been regarded it's never been done before it's we've never had this happen this way before and uh you know and and many of these people were they're not afforded due process so she confirmed to me what the Axios reporting said. And the reporting from Axios was that as the Trump team was laboring over case by case, while this person was parading, while this person picked up Nancy's podium, this person broke a window. And finally, Trump's position was, and I certainly won't say the word, but I will say blanket. Yep. Pardon them all. Blanket. We're done here. Let's just do a blank. We're done here, and let's move on. And Julie confirmed that, which means Trump's position was, you know what? Some of these people probably did bad things.
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Are there a couple of people who, by virtue of attacking, who might have... Perfect world deserved a little more than four years of jail time. Sure. Okay, fine. But there are scads of people in the George Floyd riots and the BLM riots. And I know this is sort of both sides-ism. But it's true. Who got nothing? Who got nothing?
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That's right. They got away with it. They got away with it.
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They were actually heroes. Isn't it funny to watch the media culture, Mike? The other day, I guess night before last, when he came out with the tech guys with that Stargate healthcare AI thing. which is just fascinating. I'm excited by that. You phrased it exactly right. AI still scares the bejabbers out of me, but is it a possible force for good in so many ways? You bet. And then after that, he said, okay, I'll take some questions. And the very first questions were, harumph, harumph, President Trump. You've said it's never good to attack a cop. How dare you pardon these people? Suddenly the media culture cares about cops. They didn't care so much about police when George Floyd rioters were beating their brains in.
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And if you look at, and if we're going to talk about pardons, you can't gloss over what Grandpa Joe did with Fauci and Liz Cheney and all the rest of them for crying out loud. These people, if you accept the premise that Anthony Fauci was complicit with China and we did gain a function and everything else, if you accept that premise, I would argue what Fauci did, and I don't know that he did, but I'm just saying if you accept that, that's a heck of a lot worse than anything anybody did on January 6th.
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So you're talking about subverting democracy? How about what Liz Cheney and this committee did in their breathless zeal to destroy a president? That was a far greater stain and attack on democracy than the admittedly bad act of storming the Capitol. Absolutely.
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And he not only has his lifelong pension, I believe he still has security. How do we feel about Trump ripping the Secret Service away from John Bolton? How do you feel about that?
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Okay.
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It's not my favorite thing.
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It's not. And John Bolton immediately went whining about that. And my first thought was, relax, John. Iran joins America in no longer caring about you. That having been said, his point was, I'm a target. I've been a tough anti-terror guy, which he has, back when we liked him. And if it has been custom to – I mean, who gets it? We know ex-presidents do, ex-vices. Well, that's a good question.
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Who's entitled to it?
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If that's been the rule, I don't want it yanked from John Bolton if every other John Bolton has gotten it for 50 years. But by the same token, there's another question. That's right. How many people? Secret Service is, I think we've learned they're a little spread thin, haven't we? So in part of Secret Service reform, we've got to figure who gets protection and who doesn't. Maybe every last hanger on and staffer in every presidency, maybe the line is placed somewhere. So, I don't know. Does it look vindictive? Is your problem that it looks vindictive because Bolton hates Trump?
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Yeah, well, and I don't want anything happening to anybody. I mean, I want everybody to be safe. And some of these people, I'm, look, I already got in enough trouble over the pastor, so I'm not going to get in trouble again today. The bishop. I thought about you. Oh, yeah. I know.
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Did you see the tour she went on on The View and CNN?
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Oh, look, look. Hey, Mark. Mark, come on. How did... Look, Mark, Mark, how dare you? Every good woman of the cloth has to go to the view. Come on. A woman of God, there's nothing more spiritual than sitting down with Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar. I mean, if that doesn't expose who she is, then nothing does.
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Real quick, before you go, on the vindictiveness beat, this is just 30 seconds. What do you think about them yanking the portrait of General Milley off the wall of the Pentagon? Love it.
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Love it. Take them all down. Take them all down. Take out the pliers and the hammer and pull those portraits off the wall. I think you've got to take down Biden's. All right. Incidentally, let's talk grace. Did you see Biden's note to Trump in the desk? Now, first of all, 30 seconds on this. Outgoing presidents leave a little note.
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But wait a minute.
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But wait a minute. Here's how this was uncovered, though. This is hysterical. Peter Doocy, who is now reporter in residence at the White House. I mean, he gets to ask all the questions. It's a whole new dawn for that young man. He's just the happiest guy going because he gets all that. And he says to Trump in the Oval Office the other night, Have you looked in the desk to see if there's a letter from Biden? Have you seen the letter? And Trump says, this is on TV. I don't know. Is there a letter in here? He opens the drawer and there's the letter. Peter Doocy made Trump. So Trump never opened his desk, the resolute desk, and there was the letter. And it was charming and it was gracious. But I've got to talk about it. Well, but I got to talk about the letter. The letter was, hey, I'm praying for you and your family. May America shine. I love you. Did he write it?
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Did he write it?
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Well, but do you write that to Hitler? Do you write that to a fascist? I mean, this is what we mean about they never meant it when they were so... They couldn't have meant it, or don't mean it now. And here's the thing. If you think he's a fascist, well, then you don't need to leave him a letter. Who cares about tradition? Don't leave a letter to the... All right, now let's go down this hive rabbit hole. The Hive Bakery. lord in heaven above i did a little bit of a deep dive into that woman who owns it in flower mound and you and i got some some mentions all over the country because you you talked about it i talked about it i saw people posting oh mark davis at 6 60 a.m the answer talked about this mike gallagher and mark talked about it this is the lady the trump hating far left loony who's got a bakery in flower mound texas Now, Mark, is Flower Mound, am I crazy? Is it not a conservative community? Southern Denton County, pretty conservative stretch of territory, yes. Well, she hates apparently the people who live there because she said the MAGA people here are garbage. They're not fit to lick our spoons. We've got the best bakery in Texas. And you're all scum because people were asking her to bake MAGA cakes and everything. But I guess she perceived that to be a goof. What if it wasn't a goof?
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Exactly. I thought about this some yesterday. For those who don't know... We're all hopped up about bakeries in conservative land because everybody wanted the conservative bakers to make the gay wedding cake or the trans reveal cake or blah, blah, blah. And the bakers didn't want to do it. And we said, hey, you got the right not to do that. So flip the coin. Does the liberal baker have the right to refuse a MAGA cake? You and I would say, yes, that's a free speech right, too. So if they get 50 orders for MAGA cakes at the Hive Bakery where they got rainbow flags and Beto stickers, does somebody really want them to do it or is it just a bit? Are they just trolling? I'm
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Well, how do you know? I mean, you're in the customer service business. If you work at a Publix or a Winn-Dixie and somebody walks in and buys items... But I'd be suspicious. I mean, but it's not Publix. It's not Winn-Dixie. It's not Kroger. But it's not her role. I know. It's not... Somebody wants to order a dozen cupcakes.
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Well, anyway... But don't you kind of think... Okay, put on... Let's say you and I run the Lib Bakery, the pretty famous Lib Bakery, and we get 10 orders for MAGA cakes. Aren't you going to think, okay, this is a bit. They just want us to make the cake and then they're going to stiff us.
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Well, ask the lady who owns the bakery what she thinks of the guy who doesn't want to bake cakes for a same-sex wedding couple. I guarantee you she believes that that baker is discriminating for not doing so. So I don't think you get to sit around and say, but here's the bottom line. Yeah. Check out her social media posts. Oh, my Lord. This woman. I've seen them. You have? Not just over recently. I mean, like, how about people who she doesn't like, who, like, complain about, she was complaining about customers who don't like the style of icing she has. In other words, stuff that was completely unrelated to this controversy. I don't know. Just seems testy. Testy? Not since one flew over the cuckoo's nest have we seen testy like this. This woman, and this is the thing. It's beyond politics, Mark. Let's face it. Some of these people are truly, and I'm not saying this to be pejorative here, they're truly mentally ill.
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There's a mental health issue. It's got to be exhausting to go through life that way.
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But there's also something wrong with some of these people. And I have to respectfully say, ma'am, you might make good cupcakes. Get you to a counselor. Go to your pastor. Go to a rabbi.
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Well, find some counseling.
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Find some therapy because there's something wrong with her. She was mad about apparently some customer complained about what time they closed, and she was like, F you. I can close when I want, and I'm a baker.
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That's another talk show. Let's say they close at 6. Did somebody walk in at 5.58?
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with a really complex order. I mean, it's quite the adventure. Look, you want some fun reading? Go into the history of the Hive Bakery and Flower Mound social media posts, and you will go right down that rabbit hole. So, my goodness. All right, well, troops on the way to the border. AOC, what's not to love? Elon Musk's a Nazi. The talk show gods continue to smile on us, my friend. Brave new world for me today. You're a creature of habit. I know how you are about the way you do things in your studio. For 20 years, I've had like 19 monitors. It's like a space shuttle cockpit. I have to have my text messages displayed. I have to have my this. I have to have my – well, they've talked me into going to one monitor total. Oh, my. And I'm doing it to death. I'm scared to death. I'm in a sweat.
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Is smoke going to be pouring off that screen because you've got so much loaded into it?
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I've got like seven screens, but what they've introduced me to are the concept of tabs. I didn't even know about tabs. But you can tab from click, click, click, and you go to one screen. So I'm doing it all today. The show's going to be a disaster. I can't concentrate. I'm shaking. I've got a rash on my forehead. The first time in 20 years I've used one monitor for everything. I have an idea.
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Let's see how the show's going to go. Middle of the show.
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Yeah, Mike, this is Bill in Philadelphia.
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I just want to know... Eric, I can't get the screen to work. Eric, I can't see the monitor.
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Do you like Trump? Is this a good thing, Mike? I'd like your analysis.
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Tracy, where's my OneNote? Tracy, where's my OneNote? I can't see it, Tracy. Are you okay? Tracy! Yeah, that's the way it's going to go. We're in trouble here, so pray for me. I'm so brave. I'm so brave. Love you, too.
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First up, a Florida truck driver. You know how they got snow, right? Southern Florida, well, not southern, like the panhandle. Well, this one truck driver was very excited about the snow, and so he thought, you know, I get it. He's like, why not do donuts? But you're in a truck, and he crashed in Walton County, Florida. And this has now made it to where Florida Department of Transportation come out and they have to go, guys, we know you're very excited about the snow. Let's not be taking our big rigs out there and be doing donuts out in it, all right? It probably melted already anyway. But he's okay. Deputies responded to the crash. It got reported in. But they're telling people, stay off the roads. He, like, went off an embankment. it like a pretty big embankment i mean they're gonna have to tow that truck out i don't know how they're gonna get that truck out it's like on its side off a concrete drop off it's man so be careful out there you know a uh let's see this oh no no no a florida man 73 years old why is this always somebody who's like it's an old progressive right this is when you say that you don't like old people and that they're not innocent are you talking about the progressive ones Cain, if you could see how he's trying to turn himself off. Well, there's four different things. He's like chaotic. He's like, I am not going to be impugned in such a way.
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We need to clear this up. Not all old people are innocent. Stop what you're doing. Not all old people are innocent. And this is an example of one of those not all old people.
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Well, he's 73 years old. He was naked. Sorry, I'm doing the Ozark pronunciation. N-E-K-K-I-D. Naked. That sounds dumb to say. Doesn't it? Naked. That sounds so weird. He said that he was literally walking around the park in his neighborhood. Buck naked. And when police arrived, because obviously everyone and their brother called the police, he said, he said, well, there are new parks here. There's new beaches here because there are new beaches in Florida. And they're like, sir, you're not at the beach. You're literally in the middle of like a residential community walking around the park. Like, why are you why are you like this? He was taken into custody because he was doing the exposing of his sexual organs. So, yeah. And let's see. I got one more for you. A Florida man ate a diet of butter, cheese, beef, mostly butter and cheese, and his cholesterol went through the roof. Yeah, because, you know, you can't eat high fat butter and high fat cheese and eat all the high fatty fat stuff. You got to you got to be careful with this stuff. This was a story. It was Ars Technica that I was reading. He high cholesterol is considered 240. His over a thousand. How are you living? How are you living? That's insane. I don't know, man. It is a big week, and we're not just talking about Inauguration Day. Kel-Tec has officially unveiled their brand-new pistol, the PR-57, and it's causing a huge buzz. Over a million views on the release video already, and you need to see why. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com slash Dana today. Right now, check it out. It's the Kel-Tec PR-57. It's a revolutionary compact concealed carry pistol chambered in 5.7. It's ultra-lightweight, 20-round capacity. And here's what's the kicker. It's a unique top-loading design. It's slim, simple, and practical. You're not going to have a magazine. In fact, the PR57 loads directly into the grip. It's a rotary barrel design, and it reduces weight by 40% compared to the other 57 millimeters on the market. And it's not just innovative. It's built for real-world performance with ease of use in mind. So for a limited time, you can win your own Kel-Tec. Just head over to keltecweapons.com slash Dana. Enter their SHOT Show Week giveaway right before midnight Thursday. That's a deadline. The winner, I'll announce it live on air. The winner, Friday, January 24th. So don't miss your chance to own the future of concealed carry. Visit keltecweapons.com slash Dana. Kel-Tec. Innovation performance made in the USA.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you broadcasting from NSSF Shot Show. We come here every year. You all know the drill. It's like the one time I'm out of my hobbit hole. And this is a great event to come to. I haven't even seen hardly anything. I was just talking to my friend Ken Shamrock, the most dangerous man on God's green earth. That's not his official title. It's the world's most dangerous man. I think he's like the universe's most dangerous man. I have watched a number of his matches. And he looks like so, you know, he's so pleasant and so nice. Right now. I mean, totally not, you know, just so nice. And Ken joins us live here in Vegas at SHOT Show. And by the way, you guys are, people can watch the show, Channel 347, DirecTV. We're at X, Facebook, all over and terrestrially. So welcome. It's been a while. The last time I spoke with you, it was in Dallas and it was like seven or eight years ago. So it's been a while. We've grown up. We're big kids now. is that is that is that real yeah are we grown up i don't know like i maybe not i don't know i like i question some sometimes i see the way stuff goes down i don't want to grow up i know man i'm telling you so you're at shot you got in probably i think the same day that that we did and you come to shot show a lot i mean you like this stuff here i mean you you you walk around you you kind of take it all in you stay busy what do you have you gotten to see anything yet this year
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Yeah, you know, usually when I come to these, I just, I mean, I don't have a specific thing I'm doing here other than when I'm being coming in and doing something like I am this time. But yeah, I've been able to browse around and look and see. And it's just, for me, man, it's just such a breath of fresh air to come here and see this thing grow. Yeah. See that we're... We're getting our rights, you know, that we've had for I don't know how long, ever since man has been man, to be able to bear arms and the amendment. And it's moving forward. And there for a minute, we didn't know if that was going to happen. So it's awesome to be here, see this thing flourishing and growing and seeing all the different designs and things that are coming out with the weapons and things like that. It's just an awesome show.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, the weapons tech is I love the progression in technology. And I love this industry because people don't realize that. I mean, you do, but a lot of people don't. That these are all mom and pop businesses that got really successful in various degrees. And I don't know any other industry really that is like that.
SPEAKER 03 :
It seems like, you know, there's the freedom to be able to kind of explore and take up different designs and start businesses, you know, and this is one of them where they can just literally, you know, say, hey, I'm going to do this and jump in and do it. But again, I want to go back to that part where it's like, you know, six months ago, we weren't even sure we were going to be able to bear arms. So it's a refreshing thing to be here and see this thing growing.
SPEAKER 01 :
You seem like very satisfied and rested after November, Tuesday in November, a very certain Tuesday. You seem very happy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think a lot of us were that way, whereas like, you know, it's a major deal, you know, and for that to be something that we had to fear is just beyond me. I can't even think of how that would even be possible.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's, I mean, I think we're going to look back on the previous term, the previous administration and wonder what in the hell was going on? What was happening? for those four years. I mean, we're paying taxes out of the nose. For what? We're getting involved in every international dispute. They can't articulate any kind of American interest for it. I mean, every single thing that... Every day it was something new. It was exhausting, tiring. It affected Americans' moods. Now everyone... Like, you are so calm and happy right now. You're actually... You're almost giddy.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's probably the closest to giddy you'd be. Yeah, again, like I said, it is a good feeling to wake up and know that we're on the right track. We have a great president that's in there now. And it just feels like the sky's the limit. And that's really what I feel as opposed to six months ago where I felt like we were confused.
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Yeah, that's a good way to put it. We're talking with our friend Ken Shamrock, the world's most dangerous man. I mean, he is a UFC legend. He's a WWE legend. We're going to talk about some of that stuff. There was an interview that you gave, you know, speaking of, you know, where we were six months ago and how weird through these weird policies society has been made. You gave an interview and I thought it was so poignant. You were talking about your relationship with WWE and you and somehow like I guess China got brought up. And you were saying that you didn't want to you didn't feel it was appropriate to get into the ring with her. And you were like, I got kids and they see this. And I thought that was incredibly that was a really just as a parent. I'm like, I get that. I get exactly what he's saying right here. That that makes sense. And also, you're an athlete and you understand just, you know, basic anatomy and physiology. Yeah. You're like educated, unlike some of these people in HHS, apparently.
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Yeah, you know, and this was back when my kids were still in, you know, kindergarten and grade school. Yeah. And, you know, I was doing, obviously doing well in the WWF, just finished a career, you know, with UFC and over in Pancras becoming a world champion and, you know, the actual fighting. Then I went into pro wrestling and, you know, WWF and had some fun there. And it just, there was a time where I was asked to, get in and actually have a match with China. And now this is pro wrestling, right? So most people in their minds are thinking, Ken, come on, brother. It's not real. It's pro wrestling. You guys are going to go out there and do a script and tell a story. And, you know, it's just what it is. And I looked at him and I said... I have kids at home and there's all these other kids out there that are watching me. They don't know this is entertainment. And so for me to walk in there, even though China is in tremendous shape and I give her all the respect in the world and I loved her and I felt bad on how things turned out with her. I was not going to get in there and beat up a woman. Even though it may have been entertainment, the rest of the world or half the world that are young kids do not know that. And so I took a stand and I basically said, no, I'm not going to do that. Good for you.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's amazing because it's just, I think a lot of people, because it's a huge professional thing. I mean, it's not like, you know, you make a move in that industry and everybody knows about it. So this, you know, it became some news and it made some headlines. But I also think it set a precedent because you look at what's happening with sports. And one of the reasons why I think, you know, November went the way that it did. People are so tired of having to defend just like basic science and say, why can't boys play on boys teams, girls play on girls teams? I'm just glad I don't have a daughter. I have boys. I'm a boy mom. I can't imagine raising a daughter in that kind of environment and having to defend her before she even gets on the court or on the field.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then it's difficult for them to defend themselves because then they're looked at as being weak. You know, like, well, what are you afraid of? It's like, yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, kind of am, a little bit, yeah.
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There's a big difference between a man and a woman when it comes to the physical nature of sports.
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Do you think that point has been made with the last election? Do you think that maybe the people that have been pushing this in society, that they've gotten the message? Is this going to stop? I mean, how long are we going to have to deal with this?
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I don't know if it'll ever go away, but I don't think we're ever going to have to deal with it in the schools, or at least for the next four years, maybe even longer than that, if things go the way I hope they go. I don't think we'll have to deal with that in our schools. I do believe that we're always going to have to deal with it in society, period.
SPEAKER 01 :
I can't imagine being a principal and having to deal with this with the student body, and then forcing it on the student body, and then the parents... come in and one of the parents is Ken Shamrock. And Ken Shamrock comes in the principal's office. That has like the opposite intended threat. Usually you're scared if you go in the principal's office. Ken Shamrock coming in the principal's office is a whole different issue. But how does Dad Ken deal with that? I have four girls, three boys. God love you. And
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I just know this, that I haven't had any serious issues. I wouldn't imagine you would. Yeah, but I also think it's the way that I've raised my kids and choices and decisions that they make. And that I've always instilled in them that no matter whether it's a principal, a teacher, an adult, anywhere that you're at, your voice matters. And that if you run into something, whether it's... you know, something that you have in faith or, you know, obviously, you know, gender and things of that nature, you have a right to speak up and to stand your ground on what you believe in. And so most of the time I've never had to really intervene. They're very strong-minded women, thanks to my wife, because she's definitely strong-minded.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I would have to imagine you'd have to have the female equivalent of Kim Shamrock.
SPEAKER 03 :
She's a strong woman, and it's definitely been instilled in our daughters. So I haven't really had a head-butted situation where I had to really get in and take care of it. We've had situations, but they've dealt with it.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's awesome. That's awesome. Talking with our friend Ken Shamrock, who's got a lot of stuff coming up, which I'm going to ask you about, because you've got the WWE Legends. You've got a lot of stuff coming out on your plate. Tell me. You've been busy.
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Yeah, you know, it's been exciting, even though I've kind of stepped away from actually getting inside the ring. Right. Kind of stepping in and doing other things, even outside the ring, trying to stay involved in something that I love, which was the combat industry. So there's a couple things that got going. One of them is... We have an organization where we've actually done two fights so far. We've done in Florida. And it's true bare knuckle. And the reason why I jumped into that was because I saw what was going on in mixed martial arts. And, you know, they put gloves on and, you know, talk about safety. And the reality of it is I fought with gloves and no gloves. And I always felt like I took more damage with gloves on than I ever did with bare knuckle. Really? I mean, I got lacerations or broken nose, maybe broken hand. But as far as the amount of punishment that I took on my brain, I felt like I sustained so much more with the gloves on because guys were able to protect their hands, not my head. Like they didn't put gloves on to protect the head. They put it on to protect the hand. So that tells you something right there. Like, oh, I'm going to throw more punches. I'm going to hit this guy more often and I'm not going to hurt my hand. That makes sense. So I thought, you know, if I ever had the opportunity, I'm going to, you know, change that. And I'm going to go back to what I thought was pure and more real. And that was bare knuckle. And so we've done a couple fights, been successful, got some great business partners. And we're really at just the beginning of restructuring and building this thing and really making a move on the combat industry. And that's one of them. That right there kind of brings me to where we've actually met some other people that kind of align with what we were doing. Survivor Man, I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's on Pursuit Channel.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I've heard of Survivor Man.
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That's where we're going. Mr. Man, Survivor Man, his last name's actually Man, and he is a SEAL Team 6 guy. I mean, look him up. I mean, he is decorated. He's amazing. He's like Captain America. He's a bad man. Dang, when you're saying that. Yeah, he's a bad man. I mean, I think I'm tough. That dude's triple times tougher than me, man. I don't want to mess with him. Wow. Wow. But this show is incredible because it is a lot aligned with how I used to train fighters. You know, where it was like push them to the limit, push them past what they think they're capable of doing. This is what Survivorman does. I love that. So I'm like completely into this thing. I know we had actually met because I was playing golf up here with Blitnikoff's tournament here. Where they do charity for battered women and children. So I've been doing that for about 20 years. And I met somebody there, Bronco, who actually introduced me to these guys that were doing this show. Because he felt like this was lying right with you. And he's right. And I saw a clip of it and I was like, oh man, I want to do this. So we ended up contacting him. kind of met everybody and started to meet some of the people mr. Mann and a few others and I'm just Everything just seemed to line right up like this is exact Providence Yeah, it's like bringing me back to old school and I'm like, I didn't think we could do this anymore. I love that Yeah, bring back this macho
SPEAKER 01 :
you know where it's not so corporatized and you have like real fighter skill where you got to kind of think outside the box because anything i mean i feel like especially when you're talking about bare knuckle there's just there's a skill set i appreciate it i watch my husband is crazy into ufc i love i like the fighter story so i get another woman aspect of it like i i started following you and watching all your matches and i'm like i like mr shamrock he's Such a nice man. Such a nice guy. But it is, it's a total, it's a different skill. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. It's a different way of approaching hand-to-hand combat. It's definitely, I think, like an elevated skill.
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It really is because if you're not looking closely at it to how those things actually play out when it comes to the bare knuckle and actually having a glove on your hand, you don't really notice it unless you're in it. And the one thing that is the biggest difference between the glove and the hand is that it's less power. You cannot be swinging for the fences or throwing hard punches because if you miss, you break your hand and fight's over. So it's really about more accuracy, more footwork, and it also limits the amount of brain damage that you take over years and years of training because you're not sparring as much. You don't have to. It's more about accuracy and speed and footwork. So it really is. And I think we're at the actual beginning point of you know when UFC came in it was kind of this cult following it was a small group of people and then it went mainstream and then all of a sudden everybody got to see it and it was like oh my goodness this stuff is awesome I think that's where Bare Knuckle is right now where it's it's it's kind of got this following but we really haven't gone mainstream yet yeah but we got to package it right we got to deliver it right and then we've also got to be able to put in the The actual stuff that we've found over the past few years of the medical findings on this, on how it's safer. That's huge. And not taking as much brain damage when you're putting gloves on.
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That's absolutely huge because I never had honestly ever thought about that, the presence of the glove and all of that. So Ken Shamrock, surviving man. And then you also have the Legends contract because you're going to be coming back with WWE as well. I mean, we're running out of time. I would love to have you back anytime that you want to come on. Anytime you want to talk about anything, you know, you got an open mic here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I really appreciate it, man. And yeah, right now things are awesome, man. I'm blessed. You know, I've had a great career and I'm not done. There you go. Where can people go and find everything that you're up to and read more about Bare Knuckle? Yeah, True Bare Knuckle, you can go to TrueBareKnuckle.com. And then, you know, Surviving Man is a pursuit channel. I know there's a few other places, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Yeah, I've seen it advertised. Yeah. So, awesome.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's a great show. I'm going to be watching. If you really want a man's sport. And for women, too. I don't want to get beat up by my wife. Women love the drama of dudes in combat.
SPEAKER 01 :
They like the drama. There's something about it. When you know it's an athletic, skilled, artistic match, there's a drama and a pageantry in it that I think is very appealing to women. We like it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know. I think she's being modest. I also think she likes it because they don't have their shirts on either.
SPEAKER 01 :
I would never say that. I would never say such a thing. Mr. Shamrock. All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
We got to get moving.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh, you guys are going to be so sad. This is such a sad headline. CNN is going to lay off hundreds of employees as a post inauguration transformation begins. You know why they're laying off employees? I keep so I'm not in my regular studio, so I feel like I can, you know, be a little wilder. I got to be very careful. The reason that they. are not that they're having to lay off all these employees is because it's been a poonado. It's been a horrible fecal storm of nonsense. That's why. It's because they're so biased. Take it for somebody who was the token conservative there back in 2012. And then they never really ingratiated conservatives in the company. They never really ingratiated them with upper management, et cetera, et cetera. So that's why. Because people are tired of watching that nonsense. They're tired of it. Also, I guess they're bringing back Duck Dynasty at A&E. Where has it been? Has it been on this whole time? Still? So it's going to be the revival. And apparently it's coming back to A&E. The last episode aired in 2017. I did not know that.
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It's been that long?
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Yeah, I did not know that. By the way, how sad is it? Like a couple of years passed and we're all like, it's been that long? That's so wild. What? NFL suffers playoffs ratings blow for division round despite ESPN's record as the Bills and Ravens failed to deliver big numbers. Why is that? They just didn't like who was playing? Like, what's up? Whoa, what does that mean?
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There's a lot of different speculation. Some people sour, some people not. But it could be just a simple Nielsen ratings thing. So we don't know yet. We'll see.
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I don't know. That's very unlike your typical tinfoil hat stuff. I'm not satisfied with that answer. Former VP Kamala Harris. There's now they're saying that there's turmoil because the word is that she's blaming his scandals for her losing the presidency. She's got, you know, as a strong, empowered woman. It's paramount that you pass the buck to the closest male. That's how that works, right? So his scandals, remember the nanny scandal? It's all being blamed for her losing. Not the fact that she just copied and pasted Joe Biden's policies or that people retired under living under this Democrat regime. That's why. In addition to that, the Gulf of America is already appearing in government documents. They said that the shock and awe orders kick in. That's what they're calling it, shock and awe orders. But they said now already in government documents, Florida was the first. The U.S. Coast Guard has now officially used the Gulf of America in their press release when they were announcing the immediate action in support of the executive orders from the president. So they said, they said Gulf of America. They said it. So it's now, I mean, it's like, I guess after it's been used in enough places, government documents, then yeah, then it works. There you go. So that's pretty, huh? That's pretty interesting. And, uh, also I had a couple of other things for actually, you know what? I should probably, cause I'm not going to get this headline in. So we have Ken Shamrock who's coming up. Uh, I know he's got that what WWE legends that he's coming back with. I read an interview with him where he was talking about why he'd never wanted to get into the ring with China. And that was kind of like a contributing factor to him, uh, exiting. Very interesting, you know, especially when boys are playing girls sports. Stick with us. You want to hear a funny non-political story? I wasn't going to talk about it, but one of my friends, Dark Storm Norm, who's got the most beautiful, had the most beautiful Frenchie, and we both had brindles. He's here. He's a vet. You know, one of the sweetest guys. And they have a booth here at SHOT Show. And he had his Norm, his dog, his Frenchie. That dog had its own power wheels. That dog was like privileged. That dog had its own power wheels. It would drive around like the dog didn't, but he would. And he lost his dog recently. And he was there with a friend who has a Belgian Malinois. And you guys know we had, we got a rescue pup. So he's like part Belgian Malinois and part Rhodesian Ridgeback. And I'm used to, I've had working breeds before, but that was, you know, when I was like, 20 or when I was a teenager different now when you're like 40 it's a lot different now to have to have a working break dog now so wick is not having a good time he is with Nana And Nana has been watching all kinds of dog videos. Nana and Wick watch videos, animal videos together. And she talks to him like he's a person. She treats him like a grandchild. And he lost his mind and totally destroyed everything. Well, he totally destroyed the floor in our bedroom where he sleeps because he was mad at being put to bed. So we're... I don't know what to do. So anyway... Before we adopted Wick, I'm going to tell you this story, and then we're going to get a meat and potatoes. I swear to you guys, you're going to use this to make fun of me, and I'm going to let you have this because I'm in a good mood. I was driving. I was going to the tailor, right? I had to pick up a business jacket. Actually, I think it was the brown version of this one that I'm wearing right now. I had to go pick up this jacket, right, because the sleeves were a little long. I was getting a tailor. And I'm driving, right, and I see this mangy-looking gray dog, right? Now, can I just preface this by saying animals in Missouri are a lot bigger than animals in Texas. Like, whitetail are huge in Missouri. Here in Texas, they're, like, anemic. It's weird. But you get what I'm saying. Like, even the, all the wildlife is bigger up there. So I see this, like, mangy, like, gray, dirty dog. I'm like, oh, my gosh. that is a free pet, you know, and I'm pulling my car over and I get out of my car and I'm like walking to the dog. I'm like, I don't have no snacks or nothing to lure. I was like, woo, you know, pop, pop, pop. And the dog acted like it was going to come over to me and then it ran off. And I'm like, I mean, it got real close to me. It was like three feet away. And then it was like sniffing at me and then ran away. And I was so upset. No sooner did I get home than Glenn Story, who owns Patriot Mobile, text me because he lives in my neighborhood. He text me and he's like, did you see this? There is a coyote that is roaming the neighborhood. And I got a picture of it. It was and he sent me that it was that dog. It was that dog. I literally almost caught a coyote and took it home. Now, I say, I know what coyotes look like, yes, but they are so much smaller in Texas than they are in Missouri. It's just weird. Animals are bigger up north. But I literally almost brought home a face-eating coyote. Can you imagine if I would have gotten that thing in my like like Ricky Bobby from Talladega Nights with the Puma in the back? Can you imagine if I got that damn coyote in my car and my rig and took that thing home? Oh, my gosh. And I didn't say anything at first. And I was like, I think I saw it. And Chris immediately knew he immediately knew. He's like, woman, did you try to take that damn dog home? He immediately knew because he looked at my face and he's like, did you try to take it home? Do you want to hear one more funny story? I'm in a good mood. You want to hear one more? Alright. So, I got into a wreck over Christmas. I'm fine. It's fine. It's a long story. That's not the point. The point is this. So, I pull up, you know, we're doing the post-accident stuff, and it was totally not my fault. We're doing the post-accident stuff. And I called, you know, the police, the non-emergency number, and I called my husband. I was like, uh, my husband is best compared to Rip from Yellowstone. And... In certain occasions, I can be Beth, right? Legitimately, shut up, Kane. Shut up. I've never seen you look so smug in your life. Not even talking to you right now. Why am I talking about this instead of meat and potatoes? What? I don't know. Anyway, so. He knows me because I can be very aggressive and overpowering sometimes. So he gets there before the police do. He's in his big old rig. He's got giant tires. I can't even get in and out of that thing without ladders and help. You know, I fell out of it in the Tom Thumb parking lot one time just after church going in to get some bread. I look like a fool anyway. So he pulls up immediately, like parks perfectly in one move, swings the door open and he comes around the corner of the car and he goes, you over there. Cause he knew immediately my, he's like you over there, like total rip. Like I don't have time for you're crazy right now. And then I looked at his feet. Cane. My husband, I don't let my husband leave the house looking a mess because that's not what proper wives do.
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This is an accident. This is an emergency situation just in his defense.
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Anyway, I look at his feet. He's got on cherry red socks and camo Crocs. Camo Crocs. That is the thing that exists. And he wears them proudly after saying he would never wear such a shoe. And I forgot all about my accident. And I was like, what in the hell is on your feet? And he was like, woman, you call me saying that you got into an accident. I'm not going to be putting on fancy shoes. Look, can we focus on that? And I couldn't get over it. I'm like, oh my gosh. I felt like a teenager. I'm like, what is on your feet? Like, why did you leave the house wearing red socks and camo Crocs? And he just stares at me. And he goes, get over there. Handled it. Walked to the airport. Vegas. Going to the airport. Coming out here in those damn camo Crocs. I'm going to find them and set them on fire. Anyway, I thought you would all enjoy a little personal information. I may not ever do it again because I'm just anticipating the amount. I hope the chat's entertained. You guys will be entertained by that. I'm going to try to get a picture of the Crocs, but long story short, you know, he didn't care. He was coming in clutch with them cherry red socks and camo Crocs. I can't even deal. So I... Yeah, tried to take home a coyote and all that stuff. Anyway, a friend of mine, there's all kinds of service dogs that are here, too. You'll have a lot of veterans at this event, SHOT Show in Vegas. And I know you don't pet the service dogs because they're working, but it takes everything I have because I feel like I'm Snow White, right? And animals talk to me, and butterflies will land on my arms, and birds will help put ribbons in my hair, and the mice will set out my slippers. I feel like I really could be that. And so I see the dogs and I'm like, pet? You know, in my head. And I'm like, no, Dana, you can't pet them. That dog is a hard worker. Working nine to five. And then Dolly Parton comes in on my head, you know. Working nine to five. And I can't pet them.
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All of that is normal.
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Takes everything I have. 100% normal. When he told me I could pet his dog, I lost my mind. I was like...
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My administration has taken action to abolish all discriminatory diversity, equity and inclusion nonsense. And these are policies that were absolute nonsense throughout the government and the private sector. With the recent yet somewhat unexpected great Supreme Court decision just made, America will once again become a merit based country. you have to hear that word merit based country and i've made it official an official policy of the united states that there are only two genders male and female and we will have no men participating in women's sports and transgender operations which became the rage will occur very rarely that is the uh... president
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He's speaking there. He was speaking at the World Health Organization. And it's... I mean, his remarks were pretty good. He got up there and he basically... Take it down a little bit. He got up there and basically told them off to their face. And it was interesting. He was invited and he was supposed to go there to speak at the World Health Organization. Or not World Health, sorry, the Economic Forum. He's at the Economic Forum. And he's... was supposed to go to Davos, but then, you know, he's going to North, he's going to the Carolinas, he's going to Los Angeles, he's going to be viewing the damage from the fires, all that. And so he did, he joined this World Economic He joined it remotely and just kind of told everybody off and it was kind of it was nice to watch. It was nice to watch. Welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this first hour and we are broadcasting from Keltex booth at SHOT Show here in Las Vegas and it's. It's always a crazy, always a crazy event. Yesterday was a crazy event. You can, by the way, you can also look and check out all of our discussions. All of our, we had Don Jr. on yesterday. We have a packed show for you today. If you get the newsletter over at Substack, I sent that out. So you'll have that. You can see, get an idea of who we got coming on today. So lots of stuff happening. We're here. It's the National Shooting Sports Foundation. It's their annual industry event. And so it's a private event. It's not like a lot of the other firearm expos or conventions or anything of that nature. It's for the manufacturers. And so NSSF is the lobbying entity for the manufacturers. So they have this every year. It's interesting because the ATF booth is downstairs. And I walked by the FBI booth. Like on my way, you know, they're here to recruit. That's what they're here for. But fascinating stuff. It's always interesting to see the emerging tech that comes out of these events and to see what's happening and what you can expect in terms of Where I mean in terms of what people are carrying and the future of firearms and it's just really fun So anyway, so we're live from Vegas now. That's why I don't look like I'm in my regular studio and also on top of it We're in the I call it the snow white box. It's a glass box. It's a snow white box. It's a glass box and It's supposed to be soundproof. Top's open. But it's right here at the Caltech booth, right here on the floor in the middle of it. So we have a lot of fun. All right, so let's get to it. We've got a lot of stuff to hit today because, like I said, the president speaking at the World Economic Forum, having that discussion, going up there and saying, look, you guys haven't been so nice to us. I love how he went up and was saying that, you know, Europe hasn't been so great to us, that Europe hasn't been so nice. And, you know, you send us all your cars, but we can't hardly send you anything. And he said that, you know, unless you basically make it fairer, then he's we're going to implement tariffs. We're going to we're going to go for the implementation of tariffs. That's what we're doing. And I thought his remarks were good. They were, you know, he talked about his historic win and all of that. But everyone just kind of and I think he got a good reception there. I think that there are enough countries in Europe, especially if you've watched the way that the elections have gone, they've They've they've had it. They've they've had enough. They've had enough of the complete collapse of borders, no control over their own sovereignty. Of course, a lot of that was the EU agreement. But they're they're tired of all of it. And so I think they're really welcoming this. And he got a really he got a really good reception. I got some other audio as well. This audio soundbite three. Trump was talking about his visits to North Carolina and L.A. later this week. Let's play that.
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It makes no sense. So I'm stopping. I'm stopping in North Carolina. First stop. Because those people were treated very badly by Democrats. And I'm stopping there. We're going to get that thing straightened out because they're still suffering from a hurricane from months ago. And then I'm going to then I'm going to go to California. Will you meet with Gavin? I don't know. I haven't even thought about it.
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I haven't even thought about it. I like his, he hasn't thought about it. Well, because, I mean, Gavin Newsom, I mean, he's spent so much time in petty partisan politics and politicizing even the wildfires and the response to the wildfires. And so there's not going to be, there's not a lot of, there's not a lot of, for Gavin Newsom anyway, not a lot of sympathy for Gavin Newsom because he helped create these problems that the state is facing. So that would be, I mean, I think that that's, That's a decent... I mean, he's going there this first week. He's already making some of these big trips. He's going to North Carolina, going to visit all of the fallout in the Carolinas from Hurricane Helene because people are still homeless, freezing, going to Los Angeles, looking at the wildfire damage. All good things. So he's done so much already, I think, in just the first couple of days. My gosh. I wanted to get into some other stuff because there's all... It's like I said, the first... The cool thing about all gas, no brakes and going hard the first six months is that you're getting a lot done. However, there's a lot to cover. Like for instance, he was talking about interest rates dropping immediately. He's already, I mean, this is already having a pretty significant impact. And I was reading this is over from The New York Post. He's looking at interest rates after the mortgage and credit card hike under Biden. He talked to at this World Economic Forum about his economic policy, because right now everything has been so focused on energy. And in fact, that was noted when he was speaking at the World Economic Forum. So much of it is was focused on energy. But he was talking about what he's going to do. for the average everyday American tax cuts. We're going to have a huge tax cut package. He said that the tax cut package that he is looking to pass is actually going to exceed the amount in savings for taxpayers last time, his first term. So incredibly significant. Huge. That's very significant. And if we can reduce government spending, all the better. Imagine what that would look like if he could also reduce government spending a few other things To get into all of this the see some of the other fallout. I'm just going over some of these headlines here You have the ATF adjusting leadership titles under this DEI order you had the the ATF there they had a chief diversity officer and that was changed now to senior executive because they're trying to hurry up and get this all situated, make sure that they can retitle their people so that they can keep them. Maybe Trump won't notice that the senior executive used to be the chief diversity officer. So they defied his order because he wanted to get rid of all of these DEI workers that were he wanted to get rid of all of them. And Now, the ATF is trying to, well, they're trying to dodge the order. So I think that there should be penalties. There should be penalties to pay, I think. This is, I mean, he was told, or he told, he gave this order to all of these agencies. It's time to get rid of your DEI positions. And ATF said, no, we're not doing it. So they rebranded it. And the funny thing is, is they try to rebrand it on their website without... any kind of indicators that they had done so. They tried to very surreptitiously do it. But they were still caught. They got caught rebranding it. They all got to go. They all have to go. If you look at the number of bureaucrats that are running the ATF, it's asinine. They all have to go. So that was pretty significant. They're already trying to dodge this. They're already trying to do it. So this coupled with what he's been saying as it relates to the energy unleashing, domestic energy unleashing, getting our stuff out there for exportation, and then also tax cuts. This is significant. Cutting government spending is more. He took questions from the World Economic Forum as well. But I just like that he went up there. I don't know if you caught any of it, Kane. I just like that he went up there and he just told them off. He was like, you guys aren't helping us. Europe's not helping us. They're not. It was really nice to hear that articulated. Because it's true. I get really tired of defending, you know, tariff... the tariff issue because the people who engage in it and act like you're the one who's engaging in big government, they omit constantly the fact that every other country, they put tariffs on our product. I mean, it's asinine.
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They don't even accept any immigrants either. No. Illegally. He knows what they're doing. The narrative globally has been that we're the bad people of the world. And Trump is quite easily showing that that is not the case.
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So, again, remember how I was saying it's like drinking from a fire hose? All of this. So it's been reported. Daily Wire has the story. He's pardoning. This is brand new. He's pardoning pro-life activists that were targeted by Biden's DOJ. And apparently they're going to get pardoned in days. You have one woman, Lauren Handy, I think, isn't she the grandmother? She's 57 months in prison. Paulette Harlow, she's a grandmother, 24 months in prison. They would stand outside, whatever your thoughts on it, they were standing outside abortion clinics and they were praying for the women that were going in. And they were being accused of obstructing. Which, you know, you have an overzealous DA. Pretty sure I'm not going to trust their interpretation of things. But they said it's an immediate priority and it's going to happen in days. So that's huge. That's significant. So already there's so much stuff being done. Like I have just a whole list of stuff that there's so much that is happening. And it's only like, what, day two, three? Good night. It's going to be like this, I would imagine, for the next six months because they're going to try to get done as much as possible. That's what I think. We're going to get into a lot of this, including some of the ICE raids in Boston. They detained a number of people who were in the country illegally. I haven't seen it confirmed, but there were reports that some of them were like Tren de Aragua adjacent. We're going to get into all of that. I also have a number of guests for you coming up. We've got Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey. We're going to have Ken Shamrock, who's joining us. Because why the hell not? You're at SHOT Show. It's the first hour. Why not have Ken Shamrock? Come join halfway through the hour. And then later on, we got, do we have Randy Couture today? Yeah, we do. We got Randy Couture coming up. Taryn Butler, who did all the gun food for John Wick, all that stuff. So we got a lot of stuff happening. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver. to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top rated precious metals company, Goldco, to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. GoldCo has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh, you guys are going to be so sad. This is such a sad headline. CNN is going to lay off hundreds of employees as a post inauguration transformation begins. You know why they're laying off employees? I keep so I'm not in my regular studio, so I feel like I can, you know, be a little wilder. I got to be very careful. The reason that they. are not that they're having to lay off all these employees is because it's been a poonado. It's been a horrible fecal storm of nonsense. That's why. It's because they're so biased. Take it for somebody who was the token conservative there back in 2012. And then they never really ingratiated conservatives in the company. They never really ingratiated them with upper management, et cetera, et cetera. So that's why. Because people are tired of watching that nonsense. They're tired of it. Also, I guess they're bringing back Duck Dynasty at A&E. Where has it been? Has it been on this whole time? Still? So it's going to be the revival. And apparently it's coming back to A&E. The last episode aired in 2017. I did not know that.
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It's been that long?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I did not know that. By the way, how sad is it? Like a couple of years passed and we're all like, it's been that long? That's so wild. What? NFL suffers playoffs ratings blow for division round despite ESPN's record as the Bills and Ravens failed to deliver big numbers. Why is that? They just didn't like who was playing? Like, what's up? Whoa, what does that mean?
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There's a lot of different speculations. Some people sour, some people not. But it could be just a simple Nielsen ratings thing. So we don't know yet. We'll see.
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I don't know. That's very unlike your typical tinfoil hat stuff. I'm not satisfied with that answer. Former VP Kamala Harris. There's now they're saying that there's turmoil because the word is that she's blaming his scandals for her losing the presidency. She's got, you know, as a strong, empowered woman. it's paramount that you pass the buck to the closest male. That's how that works, right? So his scandals, remember the nanny scandal? It's all being blamed for her losing. Not the fact that she just copied and pasted Joe Biden's policies or that people retired under living under this Democrat regime. That's why. In addition to that, the Gulf of America is already appearing in government documents. They said that the shock and awe orders kick in. That's what they're calling it, shock and awe orders. But they said now already in government documents, Florida was the first. The U.S. Coast Guard has now officially used the Gulf of America in their press release when they were announcing the immediate action in support of the executive orders from the president. So they said, they said Gulf of America. They said it. So it's now, I mean, it's like, I guess after it's been used in enough places, government documents then yeah then it works there you go so that's pretty huh that's pretty interesting and uh also i had a couple of other things for actually you know what i should probably because i'm not going to get this headline in so we have ken shamrock who's coming up uh i know he's got that what wwe legends that he's coming back with i read an interview with him where he was talking about why he never wanted to get into the ring with china and that was kind of like a contributing factor to him Exiting. Very interesting. You know, especially when boys are playing girls sports. Stick with us. It is a big week, and we're not just talking about Inauguration Day. Kel-Tec has officially unveiled their brand-new pistol, the PR-57, and it's causing a huge buzz. Over a million views on the release video already, and you need to see why. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com slash Dana today. Right now. Check it out. It's the Kel-Tec PR-57. It's a revolutionary compact concealed carry pistol chambered in 5.7. It's ultra-lightweight, 20-round capacity. And here's what's the kicker. It's a unique top-loading design. It's slim, simple, and practical. You're not going to have a magazine. In fact, the PR57 loads directly into the grip. It's a rotary barrel design, and it reduces weight by 40% compared to the other 57mm on the market. And it's not just innovative. It's built for real-world performance with ease of use in mind. So for a limited time, you can win your own Kel-Tec. Just head over to keltecweapons.com slash Dana. Enter their SHOT Show Week giveaway right before midnight Thursday. That's a deadline. The winner, I'll announce it live on air. The winner, Friday, January 24th. So don't miss your chance to own the future of concealed carry. Visit keltecweapons.com slash Dana. Kel-Tec. Innovation performance made in the USA.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you broadcasting from NSSF Shot Show. We come here every year. You all know the drill. It's like the one time I'm out of my hobbit hole. And this is a great event to come to. I haven't even seen hardly anything. I was just talking to my friend Ken Shamrock, the most dangerous man on God's green earth. That's not his official title. It's the world's most dangerous man. I think he's like the universe's most dangerous man. I have watched a number of his matches and he looks like so, you know, he's so pleasant and so nice. Right now. I mean, totally not, you know, just so nice. And Ken joins us live here in Vegas at SHOT Show. And by the way, you guys are, people can watch the show, Channel 347, DirecTV. We're at X, Facebook, all over and terrestrially. So welcome. It's been a while. The last time I spoke with you, it was in Dallas and it was like seven or eight years ago. So it's been a while. We've grown up. We're big kids now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Is that real? Are we grown up?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know. I question sometimes. I see the way stuff goes down. I don't want to grow up. I know, man. I'm telling you. So you're at SHOT. You got in, I think, the same day that we did. And you come to SHOT Show a lot. I mean, you like the stuff here. I mean, you walk around. You kind of take it all in. You stay busy. Have you gotten to see anything yet this year?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, usually when I come to these, I mean, I don't have a specific thing I'm doing here other than when I'm coming in and doing something like I am this time. But, yeah, I've been able to browse around and look and see. And it's just, for me, man, it's just such a breath of fresh air to come here and see this thing grow. Yeah. See that we're... We're getting our rights, you know, that we've had for I don't know how long, ever since man has been man, to be able to bear arms and the amendment. And it's moving forward. And there for a minute, we didn't know if that was going to happen. So it's awesome to be here, see this thing flourishing and growing and seeing all the different designs and things that are coming out with the weapons and things like that. It's just an awesome show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, the weapons tech is, I love the progression in technology. And I love this industry because people don't realize that, I mean, you do, but a lot of people don't, that these are all mom and pop businesses that got really successful in various degrees. And I don't know any other industry really that is like that.
SPEAKER 16 :
It seems like, you know, there's the freedom to be able to kind of explore and take up different designs and start businesses, you know, and this is one of them where they can just literally, you know, say, hey, I'm going to do this and jump in and do it. But again, I want to go back to that part where it's like, you know, six months ago, we weren't even sure we were going to be able to bear arms. So it's a refreshing thing to be here and see this thing growing.
SPEAKER 09 :
You seem, like, very satisfied and rested after November, Tuesday in November. A very certain Tuesday. You seem very happy.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think a lot of us were that way. Whereas, like, you know, it's a major deal, you know? And for that to be something that we had to fear is just beyond me. I can't even think of how that would even be possible.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's, I mean, I think we're going to look back on the previous... term, the previous administration, I wonder what in the hell was going on. What was happening for those four years? I mean, we're paying taxes out of the nose. For what? We're getting involved in every international dispute. They can't articulate any kind of American interest for it. I mean, every single thing that, every day it was something new. It was exhausting, tiring, it affected Americans' moods. Now everyone, like you are so calm and happy right now. You're actually, you're almost like, you're almost giddy.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's probably the closest to Giddy you'd be. Yeah, again, like I said, it is a good feeling to wake up and know that we're on the right track. We have a great president that's in there now. And it just feels like the sky's the limit. And that's really what I feel as opposed to six months ago where I felt like we were confused.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's a good way to put it. We're talking with our friend Ken Shamrock, the world's most dangerous man. I mean, he is a UFC legend. He's a WWE legend. We're going to talk about some of that stuff. There was an interview that you gave, you know, speaking of, you know, where we were six months ago and how weird through these weird policies society has been made. You gave an interview and I thought it was so poignant. You were talking about your relationship with WWE and you and somehow like I guess China got brought up. And you were saying that you didn't want to, you didn't feel it was appropriate to get into the ring with her. And you were like, I got kids and they see this. And I thought that was incredibly, that was a really just, as a parent, I'm like, I get that. I get exactly what he's saying right here. That makes sense. And also you're an athlete and you understand just, you know, basic anatomy and physiology. Yeah. You're like educated, unlike some of these people in HHS apparently.
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Yeah, you know, and this was back when my kids were still in, you know, kindergarten and grade school. Yeah. And, you know, I was doing, obviously doing well in the WWF, just finished a career, you know, with UFC and over in Pancras becoming a world champion and, you know, the actual fighting. Then I went into pro wrestling and, you know, WWF and had some fun there. And it just, there was a time where I was asked to, get in and actually have a match with China. And now this is pro wrestling, right? So most people in their minds are thinking, Ken, come on, brother. It's not real. It's pro wrestling. You guys are going to go out there and do a script and tell a story. And, you know, it's just what it is. And I looked at him and I said, I have kids at home. And there's all these other kids out there that are watching me. They don't know this is entertainment. Oh. and so for me to walk in there even though china is in tremendous shape and i give her all the respect in the world and i loved her and i felt bad on how things turned out with her i was not going to get in there and beat up a woman even though it may have been entertainment the rest of the world or half the world that are young kids do not know that right and so i took a stand and i basically said no i'm not i'm not going to do that Good for you.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's amazing because it's just, I think a lot of people, because it's a huge professional thing. I mean, it's not like, you know, you make a move in that industry and everybody knows about it. So this, you know, it became some news and it made some headlines. But I also think it set a precedent because you look at what's happening with sports. And one of the reasons why I think, you know, November went the way that it did, people are so tired of having to defend just like basic science and say, why can't boys play on boys teams, girls play on girls teams? I'm just glad I don't have a daughter. I have boys. I'm a boy mom. I can't imagine raising a daughter in that kind of environment and having to defend her before she even gets on the court or on the field.
SPEAKER 16 :
And then it's difficult for them to defend themselves because then they're looked at as being weak. You know, like, well, what are you afraid of? It's like, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, kind of am, a little bit, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's a big difference between a man and a woman when it comes to the physical nature of sports.
SPEAKER 09 :
Do you think that point has been made with the last election? Do you think that maybe the people that have been pushing this in society, that they've gotten the message, is this going to stop? I mean, how long are we going to have to deal with this?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't know if it'll ever go away, but I don't think we're ever going to have to deal with it in the schools, or at least for the next four years, maybe even longer than that, if things go the way I hope they go. I don't think we'll have to deal with that in our schools. I do believe that we're always going to have to deal with it in society.
SPEAKER 09 :
I can't imagine being a principal and having to deal with this with the student body, and then forcing it on the student body, and then the parents... come in and one of the parents is Ken Shamrock. And Ken Shamrock comes in the principal's office. That has like the opposite intended threat. Usually you're scared if you go in the principal's office. Ken Shamrock coming in the principal's office is a whole different issue. But how does dad Ken deal with that? I have four girls, three boys.
SPEAKER 16 :
God love you. I just know this, that I haven't had any serious issues. I wouldn't imagine you would. Yeah, but I also think it's the way that I've raised my kids and choices and decisions that they make. And that I've always instilled in them that no matter whether it's a principal, a teacher, an adult, anywhere that you're at, your voice matters. And that if you run into something, whether it's you know, something that you have in faith or, you know, obviously, you know, gender and things of that nature, you have a right to speak up and to stand your ground on what you believe in. And so most of the time I've never had to really intervene. They're very strong-minded women, thanks to my wife, because she's definitely strong-minded.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I would have to imagine you'd have to have the female equivalent against Shamrock.
SPEAKER 16 :
She's a strong woman, and it's definitely been instilled in our daughters. So I haven't really had a head-butted situation where I had to really get in and take care of it. We've had situations, but they've dealt with it.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's awesome. That's awesome. Talking with our friend Ken Shamrock, who's got a lot of stuff coming up, which I'm going to ask you about, because you've got the WWE Legends. You've got a lot of stuff coming out on your plate. Tell me. You've been busy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, it's been exciting, even though I've kind of stepped away from actually getting inside the ring. Right. Kind of stepping in and doing other things, even outside the ring, trying to stay involved in something that I love, which was the combat industry. So there's a couple things I got going. One of them is... We have an organization where we've actually done two fights so far. We've done in Florida and it's true bare knuckle. And reason why I jumped into that was because I saw what was going on in mixed martial arts and you know, they put gloves on and you know, talk about safety. And the reality of it is I fought with gloves and no gloves. And I always felt like I took more damage with gloves on than I ever did with bare knuckle. I mean, I got lacerations or broken nose, maybe broken hand. but as far as the amount of punishment that I took on my brain I felt like I sustained so much more with the gloves on because guys were able to protect their hands not my head like they didn't put gloves on to protect the head they put it on to protect the hand so that tells you something right there. Like, oh, I'm going to throw more punches. I'm going to hit this guy more often and I'm not going to hurt my hand. That makes sense. So I thought, you know, if I ever had the opportunity, I'm going to, you know, change that. And I'm going to go back to what I thought was pure and more real. And that was bare knuckle. And so we've done a couple of fights, been successful, got some great business partners. And we're really at just the beginning of restructuring and building this thing and really making a move on the combat industry. And that's one of them. And That right there kind of brings me to where we've actually met some other people that kind of align with what we were doing. Survivor Man, I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's on Pursuit Channel.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I've heard of Survivor Man.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's where we're going. Mr. Man, Survivor Man, his last name's actually Man, and he is a SEAL Team 6 guy. I mean, look him up. I mean, he is decorated. He's amazing.
SPEAKER 09 :
He's like Captain America.
SPEAKER 16 :
He's a bad man. Dang, when you're saying that. Yeah, he's a bad man. I mean, I think I'm tough. That dude's triple times tougher than me, man. I don't want to mess with him. Wow. Wow. But this show is incredible because it is a lot aligned with how I used to train fighters. You know, where it was like push them to the limit, push them past what they think they're capable of doing. This is what Survivorman does.
SPEAKER 09 :
I love that.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I'm like completely into this thing. I know we had actually met because I was playing golf up here with Blitnikoff's tournament here. Where they do charity for battered women and children. So I've been doing that for about 20 years. And I met somebody there, Bronco, who actually introduced me to these guys that were doing this show. Because he felt like this was aligned right with you. And he's right. And I saw a clip of it and I was like, oh man, I want to do this. So we ended up contacting him. kind of met everybody and started to meet some of the people mr. Mann and a few others and I'm just everything just seemed to line right up like this is exact Providence yeah it's like bringing me back to old school and I'm like I didn't think we could do this anymore I love that yeah bring back this macho
SPEAKER 09 :
you know where it's not so corporatized and you have like real fighter skill where you got to kind of think outside the box because anything i mean i feel like especially when you're talking about bare knuckle there's just there's a skill set i appreciate it i watch my husband is crazy into ufc i love i like the fighter story so i get another woman aspect of it like i i started following you and watching all your matches and i'm like i like mr shamrock he's Such a nice man. Such a nice guy. But it is, it's a total, it's a different skill. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. It's a different way of approaching hand-to-hand combat. It's definitely, I think, like an elevated skill.
SPEAKER 16 :
It really is because if you're not looking closely at it to how those things actually play out when it comes to the bare knuckle and actually having a glove on your hand, you don't really notice it unless you're in it. And the one thing that is the biggest difference between the glove and the hand is that it's less power. You cannot be swinging for the fences or throwing hard punches because if you miss... my gosh your hand yeah and fights over right right so it's really about more accuracy more footwork and and it and it also limits the amount of brain damage that you take over years and years of training because you're not sparring as much you don't have to it's more about accuracy and speed and footwork so it really is and I think we're at the actual beginning point of of, you know, when UFC came in, it was kind of this cult following, it was a small group of people, and then it went mainstream, and then all of a sudden everybody got to see it, and it was like, oh my goodness, this stuff is awesome. I think that's where Bare Knuckle is right now, where it's kind of got this following, but we really haven't gone mainstream yet, but we gotta package it right, we gotta deliver it right, and then we've also gotta be able to put in the
SPEAKER 09 :
The actual stuff that we found over the past few years of the medical findings on this on how it's safer That's huge and not taking as much brain damage when you're putting gloves on that's that's absolutely huge because that's I never had honestly ever thought about that the presence of the glove and all of that so Ken Shamrock surviving man and then you also have the legends contract because you're gonna be you're gonna be coming back on with WWE as well and I mean, we're running out of time. I would love to have you back anytime that you want to come on. Anytime you want to talk about anything, you know, you got an open mic here.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I really appreciate it, man. And yeah, right now things are awesome, man. I'm blessed. You know, I've had a great career and I'm not done.
SPEAKER 09 :
There you go. Where can people go and find everything that you're up to and read more about Bare Knuckle?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, Chew Bare Knuckle, you can go to chewbareknuckle.com. And then, you know, Surviving Man is Pursuit Channel. I know there's a few other places, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I've seen it advertised. Yeah. So, awesome.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's a great show. I'm going to be watching. If you really want a man's sport, and for women, too. I don't want to get beat up by my wife. Women love the drama of dudes in combat.
SPEAKER 09 :
They just they like the drama of like there's some about it like when they go and when you know it's like an athletic, skilled, artistic match. There's a drama and a pageantry in it that I think is very appealing to women. we like it i don't know well i think i i yeah and i i think she's being modest i also think she likes it because they don't have their shirts on either i would never say that i would never say such a thing mr shamrock all right we gotta get moving ken shamrock you can follow him on x at shamrock ken congratulations my friend on all your success and more success to come god bless you appreciate you and as we move our partners that don't make it possible the folks over at super beats the super marine product which is now available at sam's club There are a lot of people out there that are trying to act like they're also Super Beats. And just let me tell you, I don't care if they claim to be the number one selling, blah, blah, blah. They're not. Super Beats actually hand over fist is the number one selling because it's the real deal. They don't just like pick whatever garden variety beet. and decide to, you know, make product out of it. They actually use, you know, the best of the best. And like, for instance, their Superberine. It's made with a berberine that, you know, which is a plant-based supplement. It's formulated with a berberine that helps to support your metabolism as well as blood sugar levels. And it's also more, it's easier to absorb. One, easy to swallow capsule a day helps you to do more to support metabolic health and blood sugar levels. All of that good stuff. They clinically study this berberine. It has a 10 times higher absorption rate than standard berberine, which is huge. So don't know what you're waiting for. Head on over to Sam's Club. It's the Super Beats Super Berberine. They also have the Heart Chews from Human at Sam's Club today.
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Welcome back to the program. We have Days of These United States, but we're in Vegas. And so it's a little different. We got a little bit of a different setup. But we're here broadcasting from SHOT Show. You just talked with Ken Shamrock. So coming up later, let me give you an idea of who we got coming on the program. If you get the newsletter, though, you have it already. So you already know who's coming up. But we're going to have Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, who, by the way, is like one of the most wholesome people in all of politics ever. He is like, Cain, is not Andrew Bailey legitimately the most wholesome dude in politics? I swear to you, he is. We're going to talk to him coming up. Also, we have Randy Couture. He's going to be joining us in our third hour. And then we got Taryn Butler. So we got a packed show for you today. Don't go anywhere. Pull up a chair and let's smack talk about all the people on the left we don't like. On January 24, Fourth, as the nation comes together for the March for Life, Preborn proudly stands in solidarity with the movement, reaffirming their dedication with the sanctity of Life Month and the protection of every unborn child. And more great news, the abortion pill reversal treatment is giving women a second chance to choose life, bringing babies back to life and empowering women. Join Preborn Ministries in supporting women in their darkest hours. With God's love and free services, Preborn's network of clinics are ready to help women choose life. And help start the new year right by supporting life just for $28. Just $28. You can provide one ultrasound with a gift of $140. You can help rescue five babies. And your donation can make a real difference. And if you're able, consider a leadership gift to save babies. A $5,000 donation sponsors Preborn's network for 24 hours. Rescuing 200 babies. Donate securely at preborn.com. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250 baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Donate today for the sanctity of life at preborn.com slash Dana. Welcome back to the program. Second hour of the show. I finally have caffeine. God bless America. Caffeine is the most amazing adult nectar ever. All right. So first off, welcome Dana Lash with you. We are broadcasting from SHOT Show. So we are in Las Vegas and we're broadcasting from SHOT Show. And this is. I don't know how many we've done of these. We've done a lot of them. But we've had on, we had Donald Trump Jr. on yesterday. We had Ken Shamrock on a little bit ago. We've got Randy Couture coming up. Did I tell you I have really strong coffee? It's amazing. I think it's making my hair grow hair. It's that good. So I am, I've actually had enough sleep, but I am so, I'm getting so over-caffeinated because I accidentally ate four of the Super-V tartews. I'm not even lying to you. I ate four of them and I'm about ready to shoot through the ceiling right now. On purpose.
SPEAKER 14 :
Accidentally.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was like, I need some energy today. But anyway, we're here at SHOT Show broadcasting from the NSSF event. We're talking about guns, and you don't even have to like guns or have guns in order to appreciate the formula in which you can plug in a gun. The left loves to use them as a scapegoat to take your rights when they act like... Oh, it's about saving lives. No, it's not. It's not about saving lives. It's not about that at all. I also, we've been following, so POTUS, did you hear it came? POTUS is coming tomorrow.
SPEAKER 1 :
What?
SPEAKER 09 :
POTUS. He's here? Mm-hmm. Nuh-uh. It is. I did not hear that. Can I just say how weird it is to, okay, I feel like, I don't know how else to put it. Does it feel like a parent is back? So when you were a teenager and you would, when you're a teenager, did you, you know, like maybe you got left home alone for a weekend. You were like a young teenager. Your parents went out for the day and you know, while it was fun, you know, you were staying at home by yourself. Then, you know, night came and you really wanted your parents to come home. You wanted somebody to make dinner. You wanted that security of having someone in charge, knowing that someone's guiding the ship at home. It kind of feels like that now. Kane, doesn't it feel like The parents are back?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Remember when they told us in 2020, or 2021, the adults are back in charge? Yeah, I had the same.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wait, were those the adults that had, can I say tranny? Or is the woke mob going to come for me to give a double-barreled finger salute?
SPEAKER 14 :
You may want to have to ask for forgiveness instead of permission.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's do it in pig Latin so it's less offensive.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
So do you remember when the ranny trays were on the, it's less offensive if it's in pig Latin.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is, and more funny.
SPEAKER 09 :
I am fluent in Pig Latin. I speak it fluently all my life. But it's when the Ranny Tays, yeah, the Ranny Tays were on the lawn, I can't remember which one, that's unimportant, of the White House, and then one of them went topless and the other was like... On Easter. Well, I think it was the Pride thing, but it was Easter, you know what, you're right, because it was Easter weekend. It was Easter. And that's when they did the Pride thing on Easter weekend.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, the adults were back in charge. No, but you're absolutely right.
SPEAKER 09 :
That was an adult thing.
SPEAKER 14 :
It feels like now, oh, this, it's almost like we're reminded what leadership looks like.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know what to do with the press conferences. I am so not used to this. For four years, I'm like, well, I guess I don't have any work to do because our president's not talking. And we just focus on Congress. And now Trump is on TV every damn day. And then he's like, yeah, I got... and you know how some people do dollar dollar bills he's like legislation legislation executive order executive order and it's coming in so fast i love it but also i'm like damn potus take a second can't even finish this draft take a second so I love it but he's so anyway POTUS is gonna be at SHOT Show he spoke at SHOT Show one year and I was like I think you just won the nomination and he likes coming here he's the president is not like he I know people get they get mad at him and look I I was right there y'all know where I was when the bump stock thing and he knows about firearms but he doesn't know a lot about firearms and he doesn't shoot he doesn't hunt not saying that you have to have those things as a requirement to respect rights he does want people left alone and i think he understands the application of big government in one industry sets establishes a precedent to create it in another and so for that And he's got his kids in his ear because Don and Eric hunt and they legitimately hunt. They're not like Tim Walls who they go and get a shotgun. I mean, Don does his own reloads. They hunt all the time and they really, really agree with all of us on 2A issues. And so whenever he's got, you know, a question. He's got his kids that he can just immediately lean on. And they're not going to let their dad ban the stuff that they like to do. You know, Don's not going to let his dad, like, ban, you know, half of the firearms he has. I mean, they're already... It's so... I think that helps a lot. But he likes coming here because he likes the people. I mean, this is, I mean, I look like I'm dressed up, but I'm in jeans and boots, right? You know, everybody comes here. They're chill. They're relaxed. It's casual. They're looking at all the tech. They're looking at all of the, you know, the progression of firearms over the years. They're talking to the mom and pop businesses. It's just a great experience. So, yeah, POTUS is coming here tomorrow. And again, it's weird, dude. Like our president talks to people again. Make talking great again. Make press conferences great again.
SPEAKER 14 :
Make connection great again. Our last president had zero connection with the American people.
SPEAKER 09 :
Zero.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I think Donald Trump has just naturally that kind of a guy that likes to make this connection.
SPEAKER 09 :
I legit was laughing my backside off when he brought out, when they're like, yeah, he was at that ball and he's on stage and he goes, yeah, we're going to sign some executive orders. Oh, right now. And then there's the desk and they bring them all out and everyone was going, wait, what? what and you know that vince mcmahon level that meme where he's like different levels of excitement like vince mcmahon oh i'm pleased by this news oh this is exciting what and then like you know his eyes turn red into red lasers people were freaking out over it and then they he narrated every that man opined on every single one of those executive orders there's a 200 of them they were there all night then he went to the rest of the oval office it's weird all right so We got a lot. We got Andrew Bailey's going to be coming up. Do you guys want to hear, because I got more politics, but you want to hear a funny non-political story? I wasn't going to talk about it, but one of my friends, Dark Storm Norm, who's got the most beautiful, had the most beautiful Frenchie, and we both had brindles. He's here. He's a vet. You know, one of the sweetest guys. And they have a booth here at SHOT Show. And he had his Norm, his dog, his Frenchie. That dog had its own power wheels. That dog was, like, privileged. That dog had its own power wheels. It would drive around like the dog didn't, but he would. And he lost his dog recently and he was there with a friend who has a Belgian Malinois. And you guys know we had, we got a rescue pup. So he's like part Belgian Malinois and part Rhodesian Ridgeback. And I'm used to, I've had working breeds before, but that was, you know, when I was like 20. Or when I was a teenager. Different now when you're like 40. It's a lot different now to have to have a working break dog now. So Wick is not having a good time. He is with Nana. And Nana has been watching all kinds of dog videos. Nana and Wick watch videos, animal videos together, and she talks to him like he's a person. She treats him like a grandchild. And he lost his mind and totally destroyed everything. Well, he totally destroyed the floor in our bedroom where he sleeps because he was mad at being put to bed. So we're... I don't know what to do. So anyway... Before we adopted Wick, I'm going to tell you this story, and then we're going to get a meat and potatoes. I swear to you guys, you're going to use this to make fun of me, and I'm going to let you have this because I'm in a good mood. I was driving. I was going to the tailor, right? I had to pick up a business jacket. Actually, I think it was the brown version of this one that I'm wearing right now. I had to go pick up this jacket, right, because the sleeves were a little long. I was getting a tailor. And I'm driving, right, and I see this mangy-looking gray dog, right? Now can I just preface this by saying animals in Missouri are a lot bigger than animals in Texas. Like whitetail are huge in Missouri. Here in Texas they're like anemic. It's weird. But you get what I'm saying. Like even the, all the wildlife is bigger up there. So I see this like mangy, like gray, dirty dog. I'm like, oh my gosh. that is a free pet you know and I'm pulling my car over and I get out of my car and I'm like walking to the dog I'm like I don't have no snacks or nothing to lure I was like and the dog acted like it was going to come over to me and then it ran off and like I mean it got real close to me it was like three feet away and then it was like sniffing at me and then ran away And I was so upset. No sooner did I get home than Glenn Story, who owns Patriot Mobile, texts me because he lives in my neighborhood. He texts me and he's like, did you see this? There is a coyote that is roaming the neighborhood. And I got a picture of it. It was and he sent me that it was that dog. It was that dog. I literally almost caught a coyote and took it home. Now, I say, I know what coyotes look like, yes, but they are so much smaller in Texas than they are in Missouri. It's just weird. Animals are bigger up north. But I literally almost brought home a face-eating coyote. Can you imagine if I would have gotten that thing in my, like Ricky Bobby from Talladega Nights with the puma in the back? Can you imagine if I would have got that damn coyote in my car, in my rig, and took that thing home? Oh my gosh. And I didn't say anything at first. And I was like, yeah, I think I saw it. And Chris immediately knew. He immediately knew. He's like, woman, did you try to take that damn dog home? He immediately knew because he looked at my face and he's like, did you try to take it home? Do you want to hear one more funny story? I'm in a good mood. You want to hear one more? All right. So I got into a wreck over Christmas. I'm fine. It's fine. It's a long story. That's not the point. The point is this. So I pull up, you know, we're doing the post-accident stuff, and it was totally not my fault. We're doing the post-accident stuff. And I called, you know, the police, the non-emergency number, and I called my husband. I was like, my husband is best compared to Rip from Yellowstone. And... In certain occasions, I can be Beth, right? Legitimately, shut up, Kane. Shut up. I've never seen you look so smug in your life. Not even talking to you right now. Why am I talking about this instead of meat and potatoes? What? I don't know. Anyway, so... He knows me because I can be very aggressive and overpowering sometimes. So he gets there before the police do. He's in his big old rig. He's got giant tires. I can't even get in and out of that thing without ladders and help. You know, I fell out of it in the Tom Thumb parking lot one time, just after church, going in to get some bread. I looked like a fool. Anyway, so, he pulls up immediately. Like, parks perfectly in one move. Swings the door open. And he comes around the corner of the car and he goes, you, over there. Because he knew immediately, my, he's like, you, over there. Like, total rip. Like, I don't have time for your crazy right now. And then I looked at his feet. He came. My husband, I don't let my husband leave the house looking a mess because that's not what proper wives do.
SPEAKER 14 :
This is an accident. This is an emergency situation just in his defense.
SPEAKER 09 :
Anyway, I look at his feet. He's got on cherry red socks and camo Crocs. Camo Crocs. That is the thing that exists. And he wears them proudly after saying he would never wear such a shoe. And I forgot all about my accident. And I was like, what in the hell is on your feet? And he was like, woman, you call me saying that you got into an accident. I'm not going to be putting on fancy shoes. Look, can we focus on that? And I couldn't get over it. I'm like, oh my gosh. I felt like a teenager. I'm like, what is on your feet? Like, why did you leave the house wearing red socks and camo Crocs? And he just stares at me. Then he goes, get over there. Handled it. Walked through the airport. Vegas. Going to the airport. Coming out here in those damn camo Crocs. I'm going to find them and set them on fire. Anyway, I thought you would all enjoy a little personal information. I may not ever do it again, because I'm just anticipating the amount... I hope the chat's entertained. You guys will be entertained by that. I'm going to try to get a picture of the Crocs, but long story short, you know, he didn't care. He was coming in clutch with them cherry red socks and camo Crocs. I can't even deal. So, I... Yeah, tried to take home a coyote and all that stuff. Anyway, a friend of mine, there's all kinds of service dogs that are here, too. You'll have a lot of veterans at this event, SHOT Show in Vegas. And I know you don't pet the service dogs because they're working, but it takes everything I have because I feel like I'm Snow White, right? And animals talk to me, and butterflies will land on my arms, and birds will help put ribbons in my hair, and the mice will set out my slippers. I feel like I really could be that. And so I see the dogs and I'm like, pet? You know, in my head. And I'm like, no, Dana, you can't pet them. That dog is a hard worker. Working nine to five. And then Dolly Parton comes in on my head, you know. Working nine to five. And I can't pet them.
SPEAKER 14 :
All of that is normal.
SPEAKER 09 :
Takes everything I have.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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We are here in Vegas broadcasting from SHOT Show. We got the Attorney General of Missouri hanging out as well. We're going to be diving into a lot of these issues coming up with him in just minutes. The Austin home price per Newsweek has dropped 50%. Texas housing market has cooled. Maybe, maybe people are waiting to see, like, you know, you got some of these other blue state governors that are coming up for election. And I don't know, maybe they think something's going to change. Housing market, I mean... political cycle. It tends to cool at this time anyway. However, it's very interesting. Jamie Dimon says U.S. stock market is kind of inflated. I'm not even going to I'm not even going to I'm going to rage if I address this story in any more depth beyond that headline. I mean, it's true that all that's going to change. Egg prices are soaring again. Man who lives on a cruise ship has spent 24 years at sea. I would not live on a cruise ship to save my life. I would be sick. And you're stuck on a boat with all those people like for a very long time. Quick segment here. I'll make it up to you next hour. We're broadcasting from Vegas. Coming up, Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey. All he does is wait and sue bad government. He joins us next. ReadyWise is always ready, even if you're not. And one of the things that I love most about ReadyWise is that you know where your food's coming from, first and foremost, U.S. ingredients. It's also chain of command. You know, the chain of command. U.S. ingredients, U.S. plants sent out from that plant right to you. And that's what I mean. And these are great, delicious meals because most I think, honestly, most survival prep food is kind of dry, kind of bland. but not ReadyWise. They actually have a team of in-house culinary experts, and they make sure that every choice you pick has the caloric needs, the good carbs, all of that stuff to get you through the day, heaven forbid, if anything goes sideways. And it's essential, comfort in a crisis and beyond, 25-year shelf life. Visit ReadyWise.com. Use promo code Dana20 at checkout, and you're going to get 20% off of your entire purchase. That's ReadyWise.com, promo code Dana20 for 20% off.
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My administration has taken action to abolish all discriminatory diversity, equity and inclusion nonsense. And these are policies that were absolute nonsense throughout the government and the private sector. With the recent yet somewhat unexpected great Supreme Court decision just made, America will once again become a merit based country. You have to hear that word. Merit-based country. And I've made it official.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's been so long since I've heard a politician say merit. I mean, at least president. For the last four years, it hasn't been meritocracy. That was President Donald Trump who says that he's abolishing all the DEI nonsense. Effective immediately. Hallelujah. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're here at SHOT Show NSSF, their industry event. And joining me right now from my home state, Missouri Attorney General, superstar in politics, Andrew Bailey. I know we need to get like a studio audience in here. We need to just like cram some people in the corner over there. It's good to see you, General. Thanks for being here.
SPEAKER 13 :
so much for having me on. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Of course. So this is not your first SHOT Show, is it?
SPEAKER 13 :
This is my first SHOT Show.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is your first SHOT Show.
SPEAKER 13 :
First one. It is incredible. I can't believe I... It's overwhelming. It is.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's in like three... You know it's also in like Caesar's Palace here and part of Harrah's?
SPEAKER 13 :
I haven't even made it over there yet, so I gotta go check that out. But yeah, I mean, I... I feel like I circle, and every time I go back through the same area, I see something new. And it just adds to my list of guns that I need.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's a great, I mean, it's a great place to go shopping. I mean, we're here in the Kel-Tec booth, and I don't know if you, they have a, not that I'm like, you know, promoting this, but they have a concealed carry 5.7.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, yeah, I mean, some of the Kel-Tec stuff is incredible.
SPEAKER 09 :
With a stripper clip instead of a mag. So all the people who like clips instead of mags, they made this gun for them. I mean, not really, but, you know, it works. There's all kinds of really, there's so many cool things here. One of the things I love about this, which I'm sure you're seeing, and you know, because you know guns, is that this industry is so unique. Every single business here has a story. They all began as a mom and pop shop. And whenever the gun control lobby, like for instance, with all the Chicago stuff, which I know that they were, which I got to bring that up with you, going after like Glock in Chicago. And they forget that all of these companies started as mom and pop shops. They had different degrees of success. I don't know any other industry that's like that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, no, you're right. Especially as I look at my home state of Missouri, your home state, I mean, there are so many gun manufacturers.
SPEAKER 09 :
Black Rain Ordinance.
SPEAKER 13 :
Black Rain, Fiocchi Ammunition has a plan. Ozark, Lake City Ammo, Olin Winchester, up outside of Kansas City. I mean, there's, you know, Bass Pro, obviously Johnny Morse is from, Southwest Missouri. You've just got this great confluence of the Second Amendment, freedom-loving Midwesterners in Missouri, outdoorsmen, you know, just it's great and great industry and you're right it employs working missouri families and protects our our right to keep and bear arms your first shot show you filed something very important today yeah that you just told us about when we're getting ready to come here tell everybody what you did yeah daniel look this is a groundbreaking uh we are filing a petition for writ of certiorari at the united states supreme court today and it's to protect missouri's second amendment preservation act and it's the first of its kind in the nation Our General Assembly, our people's elected representatives passed a statute that basically codifies the anti-commandeering doctrine from the 10th Amendment and says we're not going to let the federal government coerce the apparatus of state and local government into achieving unconstitutional gun restrictions. And the Biden Department of Justice sued the state of Missouri over it. And we've been defending it ever since I've been in office. My predecessor, Eric Schmidt, who's now in the United States Senate, began that defense. We carried it on and we're taking it all the way to the United States Supreme Court. It's an interesting vehicle because you've seen jurisprudence on the Second Amendment from Heller and its progeny that identified the individual right to keep and bear arms, applied an appropriate interpretive methodology saying, you know, we're going to look at the Second Amendment in a historical context, not some, you know, evolving... Yeah, all that garbage that undermines the rule of law. The words meant what they meant at the time they were written down or they have no meaning at all. And the Supreme Court acknowledged that in the subsequent decisions after Heller. But this is different because this is really as much about the Tenth Amendment as the Second Amendment. And, of course, the Tenth Amendment stands for the proposition that any authority not given to the federal government or denied to the states is enjoyed by the states and the people of the states. Do states still matter? That's the question we're putting before the court.
SPEAKER 09 :
Ooh. I love that. Do states still matter? We're talking with Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, who's really been at the tip of the spear on a lot of this, talking about Missouri's Second Amendment Preservation Act, which was huge. I remember at the time that that was getting passed, there were some Republicans that were kind of iffy about it. Not every Republican's the same, but I think people are learning, you know what, this is a formula that you can interject any variable into. Today it's firearms, tomorrow it's another freedom or it's another right. I feel like people are waking up to that fact.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and after four years of the disaster that was the Biden-Harris administration, where they used the federal government to brainwash children in school and push a radical transgender ideology and prevent criminal prosecution of actual criminals and try to deprive us of our Second Amendment rights.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, let me ask you about it. So one of the first things that Trump did his first full day, he just obliterated the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention. I had to remember the name. And that was tasked with implementing the bipartisan communities through the gun control bill. They were bragging about that bill, saying that state by state it helped reduce crime. I mean, that was like a whole separate post that Harris came out with. That's not what you've seen as a top cop in Missouri.
SPEAKER 13 :
Not at all. In fact, the opposite is true. Biden's Department of Justice administered grants that basically helped Soros-backed prosecutors not enforce the law, abuse their prosecutorial discretion to not go after criminals. That's why there's so much more crime, because we weren't arresting and prosecuting criminals. It's not legitimate gun owners that are the problem.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's the criminal, so let's go after them. And I'm so happy to see President Trump in office and kind of reset the conversation on that stuff and restore a sense of logic and rule of law. At the end of the day, again, if we just agree that the words mean what they meant when they're written down and we all play by the same rules, it's a better society for everybody.
SPEAKER 09 :
works well for everybody it feels like somebody's back in charge i know we were talking a little bit earlier about doge and i love the idea of doge because i always if he's unleashing energy we talked about his energy plan the other day today he talked to the world economic forum said he's going to be cutting taxes and he just socked it to everybody there which was amazing but then also cutting government spending which my one criticism other than tax cuts were not made permanent during his first term My one big, big, big criticism was that the government spending needed to be reduced more so Democrats couldn't, say, justify increase in taxes as a way to offset it. With Doge, they're already coming out with a number of things that they're cutting. But I also am very aware that this has to go through Congress. And as I was telling you earlier, I'm really concerned about how gummed up that's going to get. Because you know these lawmakers. I mean, if they can throw a wrench in it, they will. But you say this could be expedited.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I think so. I think we're at a unique point in our constitutional history of the United States of America for a couple reasons. Number one, we are a government of limited federal authority diffused over three branches of government with checks and balances. The founding fathers are rolling over in their graves at the idea that there's this unelected, unaccountable fourth branch of government, the administrative state. and so what happened in the last supreme court term was the supreme court overturned the chevron doctrine that granted deference to that administrative state's interpretation of their own statutory authority no longer will article three federal courts uh give the jump ball to the uh bureaucratic apparatus and so you've got that happening you've got trump coming into office you've got four years of republican he's like myself and my colleagues filing lawsuits to try to slash and burn and cut back on the growth of that administrative state. So it's this confluence of events that could really turn the tide and once and for all restore the constitutional order and the separation of powers doctrine that maxes minus freedom. At the end of the day, it's a zero-sum game.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
More government, less freedom.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I love that. That's such a simple answer to this, because I'm sitting there thinking, gosh, how are they going to how are they going to implement all of these cost suggestions from Doge? And it's just going to get caught up in this committee and that committee. And, you know, some Republicans are better than others in the House. But that's an excellent way. And that I mean, I would feel like they're going to bring that pressure to bear on those lawmakers, especially from the White House.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I think so. And again, to put a finer point on it, if you get rid of the code of federal regulations, get rid of the rules, you don't need the federal employees administering those rules. You don't need the funding paying for those rear ends in the seats in those cubicles in those government buildings. I mean, it's a brilliant and yet simplistic solution to the problem. And again, it's the constitutionally right answer.
SPEAKER 09 :
How different, we're talking with Missouri AG, Andrew Bailey, for those watching or listening across the country. This is kind of a funny question because I was, you know, I always joke, I'm like, Andrew Bailey waits and then he sues people because I have never seen anyone do as much as you do in your office. It's very, I mean, we were talking about how with Trump, it's like drinking from a fire hose. It's kind of like that with what you do too. Like every day you're like, I'm also going to sucker punch this person and I'm kneecapping this one. Is it, so you've had to be on offense. for such a long time what does this change in terms of how you're approaching because i know you still got stuff to clean up from the biden administration how much easier is this now going to be for you and missourians and really you know because these ags pass you fight for stuff that sets precedent it helps all of us because now you know we're in power what does that change
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I mean, let's take the First Amendment for an example. Missouri v. Biden was about ending government censorship on big tech social media platforms. You and I have talked about that before on this show. And look what President Trump did on day one. One of his executive orders was to dismantle the apparatus of censorship, the vast censorship regime in the federal government. He's ending that. So, like, what do we do now? Well, the lawsuit exposed it and gave him the target to then shoot at, which he did with that executive order. But that doesn't stop big tech corporations. censorship and so we're using consumer protection law. We proposed a rule that would require algorithmic choice from some of the major big tech corporations in order to empower consumers to choose the algorithms they want to maximize their content and by encouraging competition in the algorithmic marketplace, we will break up corporate censorship as well. And so it's things like that. Look, the radical progressives that are going to be fleeing Washington, D.C. with Biden-Harris running with their tail between their legs, what's going to happen is those radical progressives are going to end up in blue states and blue cities. And so we still have to stay on offense. It's just adapting to the evolving battle.
SPEAKER 09 :
You mentioned tech and the algorithms because this has been one of the approaches to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act with trying to figure out how best to, without tearing everything down, I always think that if you're editing your algorithms, that's editorialization. I mean, just because it's not words, we're in a different era. That's still editorialization.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the Supreme Court agreed with you in the Net Choice decision.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, well, look at that. SCOTUS agreed with me. I'm almost as smart as the Attorney General of Missouri. Look at me. Smarter, smarter. Look at that. But that's, did it, knowing that, I was trying to figure out how to feel when I saw all the tech titans at the inauguration. Because on one hand, I'm still mad at some of them. On the other hand, if they're motivated by trying to stay in the good graces of the administration, as long as I know your currency and what motivates you, then I know how to respond to that. What are your thoughts on that? Is that a promising thing, or are they just being exploitative, like, we'll do this if a Democrat wins in 2018?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, look, I mean, we've got to close the door behind us, right? I mean, we've suffered, conservative voices have suffered corporate censorship, government censorship for too long. We can't go back to that world. This is a strategic objective in order to save the United States of America, and that's why it's too important to let go. What Zuckerberg did is a step in the right direction, but remember, all he said was that, hey, look, We're going to change and let users choose more content as it relates to gender ideology and immigration. Well, that's great, Mark. Thanks. Those are 80-20 issues. The rest of America, beyond conservative movements, the rest of America is with him on that. But what about pro-life? What about 2A? What about those issues? Notice he didn't comment on those. So I don't think it goes far enough. I think that's why things like encouraging competition in the algorithm marketplace and using our state's consumer protection law to mandate algorithmic choice, again, it protects consumers, it breaks up the monopoly, and it maximizes freedom of speech.
SPEAKER 09 :
You do such a good job of representing my home state. My whole family just loves you. My folks always watch you on Fox, whenever you show up on Fox. And then they were calling me like I knew. They were like, well, we hear that Attorney General Bailey's been going down to Mar-a-Lago. Trump's not going to poach our Attorney General. And they started getting pretty sassy about it. You didn't get poached because you made a decision to stay in Missouri. That's all I'm going to say. But you had a lot of people that did not want to let you go. They were going to put up a fight. So I just had to tell you that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I appreciate your family. I appreciate the support of people across the state of Missouri. And, you know, at the end of the day, I'm excited about the Trump administration. He's got some great folks coming in and these cabinet level positions top to bottom. And he's got a vision. And you think about the Trump's first term and how the deep state tried to stymie his forward progress. And he's clearly not maneuvering. Yeah, he's absolutely outflanked them. And things are already, you know, in just a few days moving in such a better direction. I feel the energy. You feel it here on the floor of SHOT Show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Everybody's calm and happy.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
They've been crabby lately.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's really cool. So it's a great opportunity for me to serve the people of the state of Missouri.
SPEAKER 09 :
Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, who I've said, I don't say this as a joke. I swear he's like the most wholesome person in politics. He legitimately is. We really appreciate what you do. We appreciate your fight. You do such an amazing job representing Missouri. Thank you so much. You've got such a bright future because you're such a rock star. I appreciate it. So you really do such a good job. Thank you, General. It is a big week, and we're not just talking about Inauguration Day. Kel-Tec has officially unveiled their brand new pistol, the PR-57, and it's causing a huge buzz. Over a million views on the release video already, and you need to see why. Visit keltecweapons.com slash Dana today, right now. Check it out. It's the Kel-Tec PR57. It's a revolutionary compact concealed carry pistol chambered in 5.7. It's ultra-lightweight, 20-round capacity. And here's what's the kicker. It's a unique top-loading design. It's slim, simple, and practical. You're not going to have a magazine. In fact, the PR57 loads directly into the grip. It's a rotary barrel design, and it reduces weight by 40% compared to the other 5.7 millimeters on the market. And it's not just innovative. It's built well. for real-world performance with ease of use in mind. So for a limited time, you can win your own Kel-Tec. Just head over to keltecweapons.com slash Dana. Enter their SHOT Show Week giveaway right before midnight Thursday. That's a deadline. The winner, I'll announce it live on air. The winner, Friday, January 24th. So don't miss your chance to own the future of concealed carry. Visit keltecweapons.com slash Dana. Kel-Tec. Innovation performance made in the USA.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, so first up, a Florida truck driver You know how they got snow, right? Southern Florida, well, not southern, like the panhandle. Well, this one truck driver was very excited about the snow, and so he thought, you know, I get it. He's like, why not do donuts? But you're in a truck, and he crashed in Walton County, Florida, And this is now made it to where Florida Department of Transportation come out and they have to go, guys, we know you're very excited about the snow. Let's not be taking our big rigs out there and be doing donuts out in it. All right. Is it probably melted already anyway? But he's OK. Deputies responded to the crash. It got reported in. But they're telling people, stay off the roads. He like went off an embankment. Like a pretty big embankment. I mean, they're gonna have to look toe that truck out I don't know how they're gonna get that truck out. It's like on its side off a concrete drop-off It's man. So be careful out there, you know a let's see this. Oh, no. No. No a Florida man 73 years old Why is this always somebody who's like it's an old progressive, right? This is when you say that you don't like old people and that they're not innocent Are you talking about the progressive ones? Cain, if you could see how he's trying to turn himself off. He's like chaotic. He's like, I am not going to be impugned in such a way.
SPEAKER 14 :
We need to clear this up. Not all old people are innocent. Stop what you're doing. Not all old people are innocent. And this is an example of one of those not all old people.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, he's 73 years old. He was naked. Sorry, I'm doing the Ozark pronunciation. N-E-K-K-I-D. Naked. That sounds dumb to say. Doesn't it? Naked. That sounds so weird. He said that he was literally walking around the park in his neighborhood. Buck naked. And when police arrived, because obviously everyone and their brother called the police, he said, he said, well, there are new parks here. There's new beaches here because there are new beaches in Florida. And they're like, sir, you're not at the beach. You're literally in the middle of like a residential community walking around the park. like why are you why are you like this he was taken into custody because he was doing the exposing of his sexual organs so yeah and let's see I got one more for you a Florida man ate a diet of butter cheese beef mostly butter and cheese and his cholesterol went through the roof yeah because you know you can't eat high fat butter and high fat cheese and eat all the high fatty fat stuff you gotta you gotta be careful with this stuff this was a story it was ars technica that i was reading uh he high cholesterol is considered 240. his over a thousand a thousand how are you living that's crazy how are you living that's insane I don't know, man. All right, coming up, Randy Couture is going to join us. You guys know Randy Couture, Extreme Couture. I mean, UFC. I mean, you guys know Randy Couture. He's going to join us next. Stay with us. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver. to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top-rated precious metals company, GoldCo, to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. GoldCo has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
Finally, as we restore common sense in America, we're moving quickly to bring back strength and peace and stability abroad. I'm also going to ask all NATO nations to increase defense spending to 5% of GDP, which is what it should have been years ago.
SPEAKER 09 :
boom i love it i so i was this morning first off welcome back dana lash with you you can listen across the country coast to coast on a market near you terrestrially uh also we have channel 347 direct tv the chats at rumble uh they're usually rowdy and the best of ways over there uh and then also x YouTube. Geez, I don't even remember anymore. I just had like a brain fart. Like what? We're everywhere. Anyway, welcome back. Dana Lash. We're broadcasting from Vegas at SHOT Show, which is the annual event. I love coming here. Yes, because I shop. And yes, also because I love this community. I love the brains in this community. I love the... Some of the best all-American stories are in this community. These are mom-and-pop shops that have all various degrees of success. And it's just part of the American fabric. This is Juan's first SHOT Show. Juan is... God love him. He's going to be so tired when he goes back home. And he hasn't even hardly seen anything.
SPEAKER 14 :
He's tired now.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is his very first SHOT Show. So he's not used to this overwhelming, like, it's very poorly organized chaos. But we love it. So I was in my room getting ready to come down to the floor. And I'm brushing my hair. And I'm watching Trump address the World Economic Forum. And the thing that struck me, and Cain, tell me if you agree with us. I feel like this is his don't G-A-F era. I feel like his first term... He still I felt like he was being careful or maybe he was being advised. I think he's got a way better team of advisors this time around. I think he is infinitely more disciplined this time around. And I think he does not GAF.
SPEAKER 14 :
And here's what I think. I agree with you on that assessment, but I think it's actually that he gives.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, he doesn't care about how they're going to. So what he said in front of the World Economic Forum, I'm brushing my hair. I almost dropped my brush because he stopped for a moment and looked the room. He's speaking remotely, but he's doing this all for a fact. And he stops and he looks around. He goes, some of you haven't been so nice to us. And I fell out. I thought I've never. I like being defended, right? I want to feel like someone is sticking up for my interests. I mean, I don't care how selfish it sounds. That's why you all vote. You all vote because you wanted to help you. Come on. Yes, in the country.
SPEAKER 14 :
But our interests aren't really selfish.
SPEAKER 09 :
Our interests are the country's interests. So they're one and the same. But he's out there. He tells them this. Audio sound by 19. Listen to this. This is great.
SPEAKER 05 :
nato by nato also from the forum this morning go ahead steve finally as we restore common sense in america we're moving quickly to bring back strength and peace and stability abroad i'm also going to ask all nato nations to increase defense spending to five percent of gdp which is what it should have been a second there because
SPEAKER 09 :
They were only... Some of them were only making 3%. And I know I've talked about this before, but can you... In your mind, I want you all to go back. I think it was... Was it 2017? And wasn't it like a G... one of the g meetings over in europe all i remember is that he was there with uh it was true you had trudeau you had the uh prime minister of japan uh you had angela merkel uh you i don't think maloney was there yet but he maybe she was he was sitting at the table with his arms crossed and merkel was leaning over and she looked like a mad hot mess he That came after he had made comments, that photo, to give you context. That came after he said, NATO, these European countries need to start pulling their weight in terms of NATO. Because the United States cannot make up financially and with resource the shortfall of them not paying. This is for your own defense. And Merkel was livid. And there were reports that Trump's aides and Merkel's aides kind of were like, but, you know, he didn't back down from it and he reiterated it again. And so then it came out. Kane, who is the the A.I.? I put this in here because his name just slipped my mind. He's Masayoshi-san. Masayoshi-san had been talking about... This is about the investments, right? With AI, etc. Remember, at first it was going to be a $100 billion investment, and then Trump's like, make it two. And then, now it's like almost $500 billion. It's almost a $500 billion investment. Look, I know that people... in the past and, you know, maybe even with some stuff now are torn on some of the stuff that Trump does, but his best, he is at his best when he walks in a room with these leaders and he's like, you're going to give me what I want because he is very old school and they have not come up in that crucible. And part of that, there's so much psychology that's in this and it fascinates me. He is some like some people were saying oh he was just brutish and the way that he was talking with markle no he wasn't he's been a leader that's what leaders are supposed to do leaders don't give a rat's ass whether or not french citizens are going to be upset with the policy that best benefits americans and i want a leader like that i wanted jackass that's going to go in there and is going to stick the boot up the backside of some of these weak leaders why should you have to work three months out of your life for your salary to have that taken and go towards, oh, I don't know, shoring up Germany's defenses. When they can take a percentage of their own GDP to spend on their own self-defense, why do you have to shoulder that burden? That's the point he was making. Cain, you were watching some of it. What was the clip that you said that you liked, or the soundbite that you heard?
SPEAKER 14 :
When he was talking to Davos?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, he was talking about their anti-human agenda. It's over. And he's like, you know, he just continues and talks about the dismantling of the quote-unquote terrible Obama-Biden regime agenda. He was, I mean, the looks on these people's faces were like, what is happening?
SPEAKER 09 :
I wish that, because he seems to be having a lot of great success with this, now the success for finalizing his cabinet needs to be done. So, forgive me, because I'm pulling up. I don't have my four and a half foot game screen. Isn't, from what I saw, isn't Murkowski... Because we got a judge that's blocking right now temporarily his order that ends constitutional guarantee of birthright citizenship, which there is none. That's so poorly misunderstood. We're going to talk about that. But also, I think it was, I'm going to pull this up. I think we had Lisa Murkowski who was saying that she's still not sold on Hegseth. Is that what I'm reading correctly? Yes. because he's facing some and i knew he was going to this this he was going to be the most he and tulsi gabbard are going to be the most difficult ones but i think particularly him because it's sec def uh because it's the pentagon because it's dod because you're dealing with this you know decades of entrenched bureaucracy and um so to that point this I think that they need to get these cabinet members solidified. This has got to get done. We can't waste time on this. You know, he made his pick. Do it. Just get it done. Because we have got to keep this exact same pressure on going all the way through until summer. Otherwise, if they start throwing these hiccups like this, and this is one of the reasons why they were moving so fast, if they keep throwing these hiccups like this, all this is going to start slowing down. And it's going to give the left time to maneuver. So far, he's outmaneuvering them. uh... but if we keep running up against roblox like the c you know that's that's going to be a problem now the cabinet i think it's very important i he we gotta get the cabinet done i mean there's a lot of things you know we that we have to have the cabinet in place in order to fully implement so we got rubio uh... he got a unanimous vote ninety nine oh ninety nine oh he's a former senator you know what that speak you know what that is indicative of his skills of diplomacy. I don't agree with Rubio on everything. And I, you know, when we were on stage at Parkland and he, you know, had crumbled about the red flag law and that, one of the things I will say positive about him, and I think he's mad at me forever because I criticize that, but can I offer a positive nugget? He knew how to be diplomatic and he knew how to handle different factions. And I think that's really important when you're going for Secretary of State. That is the kind of person that you want in that role. Because you can let Trump be the heavy. And then you have bad cop, good cop. And I think that's a great formulation. But we've got to get everybody else done. I think what we've got, we're still waiting for Burgum's Department of the Interior nomination. We've still got to wait for that. We still have Lee Zeldin for EPA. We've got Chris Wright, Energy Secretary nomination. I think, isn't Burgum supposed to be, I think that might happen today. uh... that that's one of the cabinets that i think i might happen i think i might have a day uh... yeah and and lorraine confirms she found the tweet i could not find god love you uh... she at least a murkowski is a no she has a big old post that she wrote on acts she says she does not make the decision lately uh... she says that she has gathered all this feedback she's not with him it's a trade sector up And it comes back to women in combat. That's honestly what I'm seeing. Although he is, she says, quote, although he has recently revised his statements on women in combat, he didn't. She says, I remain concerned about what message that confirming him sends to women. Shut the hell up and just vote for the damn nominee. This is what makes me mad. We're going to hold this up because you're trying to pander to women. Do you know what helps women? A strong military. Do you know what helps women? Strong men and a strong military. Do you know what helps women? Strong leaders who are working with strong men to make a strong military. He did not revise anything. He said, yes, you can have combat pilots. That's great. We have tons of those women. Love what they do. God love them. And they can do that role. What he's specifically talking about for these Skeksis that want to misinterpret it purposely for a malicious narrative, he's talking about women being on teams and kicking doors in. No woman has any business doing any of that. And if you're a big birther type of girl and you think you can, God love you, sister, but you're an exception. You ain't the rule. Let's be realistic. Because you know what this is? This is more woke garbage. It is more woke garbage that's in this. So just make the damn vote, Lisa. I'm so tired of this stuff. So tired of it. And I get really passionate about this. I got military age males in my family. And that's all I'm going to say about that for that particular moment. But I I'm really been watching this almost more closely than just about anything else. And for her to hang it up on that. If you think that he revised his statement, you didn't listen to his statement in the first place. You didn't. He was very, very clear. You can have complaints about Hegseth all you want. One of the things you can't do is make up stuff that he said. I hate that. That he was specifically talking about women like being deployed on teams, strike teams and going in and being literally right there with the dudes hand to hand. I have tons of female veterans who are friends and in my own family, and they all agree with that. A thousand percent. I have not met a woman who has served who does not agree with that. She's like, and I know women who served in combat as pilots, as helicopter pilots. And they're real good. Women are great pilots. There's a role for that. But on the ground, with the other dudes, that's a whole different story. But the media thinks you're stupid. They think you're a bunch of dumbasses. And they're going to try to conflate it so that you think that he's being sexist and talking about all women. And I'm so tired of this stupid nonsense. If it's not the stupid Nazi stuff, then it's this. I get so tired of it. He's been very clear. You either vote and confirm it or get your ass out of the seat so we can find someone who will represent the people adequately and do what needs to be done. Aggravating. Now, I know we got a lot more on the way. Now I'm mad. I was in a great mood. Now I'm mad. I need. Thanks, Lisa. Don't be a Lisa. On January 24th, as the nation comes together for the March for Life, Preborn proudly stands in solidarity with the movement, reaffirming their dedication with the sanctity of Life Month and the protection of every unborn child. And more great news, the abortion pill reversal treatment. And if you're able, consider a leadership gift to save babies. A $5,000 donation sponsors Preborn's network for 24 hours, rescuing 200 babies. Donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250 baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Donate today for the sanctity of life at preborn.com slash Dana.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five.
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All right. Welcome back. Broadcasting here from Vegas. And we got some quick headlines for you. So, you know, like these machines like Peloton and the NordicTrack and all of this, apparently they are harvesting your data and sharing it. So your private data, this is one of the other reasons I hate all that kind of stuff, your sensitive information, and a lot of people bought these over lockdown. Consumer Reports is saying that they're harvesting your sensitive information, your basic data, your height, beyond your height and age. They're collecting information like your dietary habits, your pregnancy status, all kinds of stuff. Bowflex too. They found, Consumer Reports found that Bowflex's privacy contract allows them to even check olfactory data or the user's smell. How is that even possible? That's super creepy. So they said that Consumer Reports did add the caveat. They're unclear if it's actually happening, but it's happening. They're taking the stuff. So all kinds of very interesting things. I'm going to skip that next one. That's not. No, no. A woman chases another woman with an axe. In Washington, Percival Creek, Olympia. I mean, I don't know if this is like road rage gone wrong, but she went after a 26-year-old woman who was arrested Saturday. Last Saturday, she picked up an axe and chased another woman, according to the Olympia police. She was booked on suspicion of first-degree robbery while armed with a deadly weapon, Thurston County Jail. They were in a dispute over a hip pack. And then the acts got involved. Ladies, there's enough hit packs to go around for everybody. I'm just saying, you don't need to be that upset. Come on, come on. This, apparently in Manila, Coffins on the road really messed up traffic. That tends to happen when you're like, you know, doing something. Yeah, that tends to happen. Coffins fall out everywhere and they gum up traffic. This was in Philippines that they had coffins fall out on their expressway and it took a little bit. This one guy, a witness, motorist Noel Luardo, says he witnessed it. He was driving home with his family and he saw the coffins fall out of the back of this truck on the road. You know what I'm very sad about is they didn't say whether or not there were bodies in there. Our friend Taryn Butler, Gun Fu, up next from Shot. I've seen the amazing changes Relief Factor has made for so many people, and I've seen it firsthand through my husband Chris's pain relief from using Relief Factor. Right now, it's easy to give their product a try because Relief Factor makes it pain-free with their three-week quick start for just $19.95. Get rid of pain and start living better. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, it works by supporting your body's response to inflammation. It doesn't just mask pain for a short time. It helps reduce or even eliminate it. It's safe to take daily. And in fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective. Whether it's neck, back, joint, or muscle pain, Relief Factor can help. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Give Relief Factor a try. With their pain-free trial, you can get a 3-week quick start for only $19.95, less than $1 a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. With their pain-free trial, you can get a 3-week quick start for only $19.95. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF or visit relieffactor.com.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you, broadcasting from Las Vegas. We're at SHOT Show, NSSF, their annual event. And my very good friend, Taryn Butler, sitting right here with me. And we've been talking all kinds of smack about stuff going on in L.A. We're going to get into what's in this fun, magical box.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
And all the fun stuff you're doing. But you're safe, though, because I know you're kind of close to where all that's been happening.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yesterday got the closest.
SPEAKER 09 :
When you say got the closest, what does that mean?
SPEAKER 08 :
Like you could see the smoke? It was in Ventura County. It was a mountain area. That's like 40 minutes for me. Then another one was closer where I used to shoot competitions. But our firefighters out there kick butt and they're knocking it back pretty good.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because that's the last thing you want to have is a wildfire approaching your facility and your area because that's a whole other set of issues.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, my CEO Chris Perez had to leave last night, bail out of the hotel. It was right by his place. Sent me a picture of the backyard. It was like five miles away. It was crazy. But this morning, he's good. I said, get those sprinklers on your roof. You can never be more prepared for fires.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
I've been through eight fires now. I had one in 2004 burn everything down except the house. 2007, we had an internal fire, a bunch of video game stuff. That burned half it down, and I can't build it back. Because the regulations are insane, so I can't live on my property anymore, as of now, until I figure out some way to get around all these, so many things I want done. And then 2019 was the worst one. That burned, like, I had my whole life of ammo in these 40-foot containers and Glock mags and all the good stuff. Oh, my gosh. It was blowing up. going crazy. I had to just use fire extinguishers. You can't have enough fire extinguishers or hoses. Look, firefighters are great, but you can't rely on them. You've got to have your stuff together. And it was nuts. I had to get fire extinguishers and just run back and forth to save the house. It was on fire underneath. Holy cow. And my cat Tinker Boy was still in there under powder poof. So I put this jacket on and the container is facing the house so the bullets are coming out and hitting the wall. And when they hit me, they didn't hurt super bad, but it had this old dopey jacket that protected me. Oh my gosh. But one actually went through the wall. I don't know how it did that. That's insane. But I was just doing drive-bys and saved the house.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, for people who are, anybody who's watched the show for, you know, any amount of time, and we're on hundreds of markets across the country, we got, you know, the live stream as well, Channel 347, DirecTV. So, Taryn is like, you're, I think, the greatest gun-fu, the greatest shooter in the world. That's accurate. That's accurate.
SPEAKER 08 :
I've done good stuff. I'm super good at hip shooting, instinctive shooting.
SPEAKER 09 :
You have like so many disciplines where you're like a master. You're like a legit grandmaster. You have so many disciplines.
SPEAKER 08 :
I recently became the first ever nine time grandmaster. So that was super cool. I've been around a long time and I just got there just in time for anybody else about a year before anybody else with a limited optics division, which was a new division that came out. And I love the shooting sports. It's action. It's fun. It's not just sitting there for half an hour shooting one shot. It's based in like a real... It's dynamic. It's an over-the-top shootout. It's like a John Wick shootout, which isn't realistic. But if you could do that kind of shootout, you could do a real shootout.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. And that's what Taron does. So Taron is, he is the go-to guy in Hollywood for, if you're watching a film and it looks like they know what they're doing, it's because they train with Taron. So he did all the John Wick stuff. You did Lioness too, didn't you? You did Lioness.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
You've done so many things. You're also doing this new, or you were working with Austin Butler for this movie coming out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Austin's a total natural. Really good. Really good.
SPEAKER 09 :
You said Lewis Hamilton was the best person that you've ever trained.
SPEAKER 08 :
Most gifted, but doesn't want to do it like all the time. Right. It's a guy that just naturally just, it just naturally can. Yeah. But other guys that really like it get super good. Like, Henry Cavill's really super good.
SPEAKER 09 :
I can imagine that Henry Cavill would be really good.
SPEAKER 08 :
Never shot before. He's phenomenal.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Unbelievable. I'll show you a video later. And also, Chris Hemsworth came out years ago for Red Dawn. Way back. Tall, skinny kid. Oh, I may just become an actor now. I'll drive my little CRX Honda Code, you know.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's actually really good.
SPEAKER 08 :
And he's like, I'll be a big star someday. I'm going to think about this movie called Thor coming out. It's going to be awesome. And then, this is like 15 years later, he comes out with his son. And his son, Tristan, is just amazing. Ten years old. That's awesome. And Chris is just total natural. We even did double gun, which I don't do that that often. Let's do it, mate. Come on. Who cares? Let's do it. Like, really? It's not really broken. He's like... That's awesome. He's a natural, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you just worked with him, too, you told me a couple days ago.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's such a wonderful guy. Just amazing. Like Keanu. Just super nice, respectful, self-deprecating, fun guy. Wonderful guy.
SPEAKER 09 :
When you're approaching... how you're going to work out these scenes in these movies. What does that approach look like? Because you're working with the director, you're working with the actor, but it very much is in some ways like a kind of choreography.
SPEAKER 08 :
Usually it's like I ask them what guns they're going to use. Like recently there was an actress coming out, she's going to shoot a saw machine gun. and they want to pay for a ton of training, I'm like, what are we going to do with that, right? So Gary tours ISS, we have a saw, a blank gun, and basically it's a sit down racket, after that I'm like, we've got all these hours, let's teach you to do other stuff, because it's completely, what are you going to do? It's like, here's your scene, open an iPhone up, okay? We've been training for six months, okay? So we did that, but usually I find out what's it about, and I always like to add a little more, like if they're like, it's just a rifle scene, They'll get that down, but I want them to learn pistol. You can do another movie, right? You're a big movie star, so let's get your pistol reloads figured out. We're not doing dorky stuff and cup and saucer and all that stuff. It's hard in Hollywood. You could do the movie and they could still edit and mess stuff up a little bit. Editors don't really know weapons or whatever. A couple movies have been messed up for me a little bit, pissed me off, but it is what it is. I do the best I can, and 90% of it's come out really good. I'm happy with how it comes out on screen. Clearly, John Wick, Hallie, everybody was amazing. And a bunch of other films. He just did a back in action, trained the crap out of Cameron Diaz. She's super good. Oh, that's amazing. She's so fun. Again, she's exactly who you think she is.
SPEAKER 09 :
She's like America's sweetheart. She seems like the nicest person ever.
SPEAKER 08 :
She's wonderful. Everything, like health to Tetiana. all the things you know just know so much knowledge and they hit it off they're like BFFs and train together like crazy and then in the end the movie doesn't have much action it's just a bunch of random stunt guys getting shredded down a hallway but it looks but when she's doing it it looks real and you make it look attractive like these scenes it looks attractive and it looks accessible and it ends up being so good that you watch it and you're like I could do that And what I liked in this movie with her and Jamie is that she's tall. She's like 5'10", 5'11". She really throws some power into knocking down the bad guys and stuff. And Jamie's just so much fun to come out. He's just charismatic and surreal. And he's so cool because he'll sit down with you and talk to you for like an hour and a half about your life. Like, you want to know everything about me? Really? You want to know about me, this stupid shooter guy? He's like, I want to know it all, man. And just, we talked forever. It was funny because we were on set in England. and it was a 25 years to the date of when they did Any Given Sunday together, and it just happened Saturday Night Live was on, that old one, it was an old repeat, you know, and Jamie's on there with Cameron Diaz, she's in the audience, all this stuff, and we're in England, and I go, hey, what do you think's doing, Super Bowl's coming up, a Super Bowl party. He throws us this crazy, raging Super Bowl party, you know, with all his friends, everybody, and that's where he sat us on the couch to ask Tetiana all about her life, her career, me, with all these other guys running around, let's go party, man. And he's like, I don't have time for that shit. Sorry. And just, it was a wonderful guy. That's awesome.
SPEAKER 09 :
Super fun. He seems like very down to earth. And that makes, also, I think it makes the training easier. And it really translates beautifully on screen. We're talking to our friend Taryn Butler, who's also, he's got great stuff with Canik. You've been doing so much. There's a new series that I knew you were working on. I saw the trailer and I was like... Taron Butler did that. It's ballerina. It's the John Wick world. And this is centered on, so when he goes into his Russian family and they've got all the women on stage doing ballet.
SPEAKER 07 :
The Russaroma and everybody. Exactly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Then that's that story that takes off. Because I always wondered how that was going to play in. I thought that was featured too prominently to just be left.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
So you're doing that series, which I am stoked about.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's set, so people understand, it's set between John Wick 3 and 4. Okay. So in John Wick 4, he's dead, we don't know if he's dead, the lions get to decide if they need money, he's not dead, you know, Keanu's knees are bent, you know, all that stuff, you know. It can happen, it can not happen, it's up to Keanu, if he wants to do it. If you do it, it's going to make billions, right, whatever. So it's set between there, so when Keanu, when you watch the part with Angelica Huston walking downstairs like, we did all this for the puppy, it just wasn't a puppy, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they have Anna on the staircase there watching them come down. They have that scene. Basically, it's set during that era. And obviously, Keanu comes in to help her deal with a bunch of crazy people. And she has, we built the custom gun for her character.
SPEAKER 09 :
I want to do what you do. This is a beautiful.
SPEAKER 08 :
This is the gun we built for Ballerina.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh my gosh, look at this. This is beautiful. Taron Tactical.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's the Combat Master X. It's got the twin jet compensator on it. It's a 24 round 9mm, in the movie it's 9mm Magnum, so if you look at the barrel it says 9mm Magnum on there, which is a real round made in Vegas here by a company.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is a beautiful gun. You make, you make really beautiful stuff. I love the grips on this too, because you incorporate. So the stuff that you do when you're with your competition shooting, when you're customizing, especially stuff for film, you're adding those elements into those guns for, I mean, and it, and it works at translate beauty. It looks great on screen. So you're incorporating all of that into what they're shooting. So she has, and this is what you would, I mean, if you were going into competition, you would have these like exact same features.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Very similar. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, this is beautiful.
SPEAKER 08 :
And the director wanted a compensator on the gun, so we built, made this comp for the movie. It's, uh, it's got a very, like, you know, you want a comp to look good. There's a lot of comps out there. Yeah, yeah. It looks like a boxing in the end of his pole. She just wanted to blend in nice and look, and just look good. Like, guns gotta look good. You can't sell a beautiful Ferrari.
SPEAKER 09 :
Gun has to be beautiful, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. Then we have another gun here.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, excellent.
SPEAKER 08 :
Coming out in the movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
In case you guys didn't see this. This beautiful piece right here. Here we go.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just so people know, anybody watching the stream, we had to pull the video out because on the first, the stream, they can't show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, that's all right. That's all right. We're still doing it on the... Can't show guns, which is sad. This is beautiful. Look at this. Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
So this... So that's the Viper. That's a 5.4-inch barrel, 5.5-inch, so half-inch shorter than the Pit Viper. It's got a sight tracker barrel on it. Front sight doesn't move when you shoot it like a typical gun. It's got the new Trijicon HD on there. It's a great optic. Nobody can get them. It's like impossible.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I was like, that's a beauty.
SPEAKER 08 :
Instead of 17 rounds like your typical 2011 mag, we took a year to make this mag, better springs, better follower design, 20 rounds. Yeah. You know, instead of 17. And the spring doesn't, you know, take, you know, go super weak in like six months. Yeah. Yeah. And try the trigger.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh my gosh. That was, that's like butter. This is beautiful.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is beautiful.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that'll be in a movie coming out soon too.
SPEAKER 09 :
And so, so this is going to be, this will be available.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not going to tell you when it'll be the same.
SPEAKER 09 :
You'll figure it out though. It rhymes with Schmalerina. Right. Maybe. I didn't say. I don't know. This is gorgeous. This is a beautiful gun.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. So these two are, they're pretty awesome. So.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I was, actually when I was at our range. I can remember when we were at the range, we were shooting up stuff, and I can't remember what we were doing, but I saw you had a whole display, a Texas gun experience. You had a nice display there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so we were like, oh, there's Terran stuff. I almost sent you a picture. It's like, oh, here's all your stuff. It's a very nice display. So you've got Ballerina coming out, and you're rebuilding. I want to go back to that with the fires real quick, because does that change production for you? Like, how does that...
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, I know they were talking about... The fire in 2019 burned the entire range, like melted all the props and all these dumb rubber dummies out there. There were literally nothing left but the metal stands. And the whole kill house is burned to the ground. You've seen these Keanu videos back in the past. Wiped it all out. It was kind of a clean slate, you know, to build a nicer range. But it sucks to see all your stuff burned. Especially the ammo. The ammo was blowing out like crazy. And that ammo, then I go to call Black Hills. The price now, for $200 a thousand, for $253 now, my price is like, for that kind of special match tip, it was amazing stuff. Like VMAX and Burger Bullets was like $1,000 a thousand now. I'm like, dang it. Oh my gosh. I can't replace any of it. No, you can't. Holy cow. I had these special Triton rounds they made. They don't make any more. They're a 45 turns into duplex rounds. And it just blew out. And the fire wouldn't stop. It took a day and a half. I'd actually get a Benelli. I only had to save blue holes in the wall of the connex so the firefighters could crank a hole in the back because it was so far in the back. Because I saved the first thing. I thought I was a hero. I saved the house with the stupid fire extinguishers. I'm like, how does the connex catch on fire? It's a big metal thing. The wooden building's not burning, but the connex. It's all the little leaves up there with all the birds and stuff. So I run down this 40-foot connex and I start passing out from the smoke. I run out and I almost die. Tony McBride came to help with her dad, everybody. It was madhouse. And now it's like an aftermath now of just Glock mags, which are now metal because there's no more plastic coating. Thousands of them. Just what a mess.
SPEAKER 09 :
That makes me sick.
SPEAKER 08 :
That makes me sick.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's not even my stuff. We're out of time this time. Taren Butler, you're always welcome to come on the program. I'm going to get out there to California as soon as these fires kind of dissipate.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm going to build you a special box with a special gift.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh my gosh, that would be amazing. Oh my gosh, this is Terrence Abbas. Terrence Abbas.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks for having me again.
SPEAKER 09 :
Of course, as always. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick break. We've got a lot more here from SHOT Show coming up. We've got Randy Couture standing out there as well, I think. Stick with us. Our partners, this is an interesting partner because when they first came up to me, I was like, let's talk a little bit. Because I'm always going to tell people, I'm going to carry. I have no problem using the lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones. I train. I know the drill. But I have friends, like I have a very good friend who's very conservative. She works in the press corps in Washington, D.C. She got one of the very difficult to get licensed to carry there. But she can't carry anywhere. One of the things she can do, though, and she went out and got this, is a Berna gun. It's a non-firearm firearm. Berna SD is the most popular model. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. I just think it's all, you got knives, you know, everybody gets blades, you get, you know, different kinds of calibers. It's always good to diversify your weapons, your self-defense array. And that's what Burna is there to offer. Like another option so that you are not left defenseless. They don't care about gun-free zone signs, no background checks, no waiting period, ships right to your door. This is the perfect time to take inventory of your self-defense options. Visit Burna.com slash Dana. That's B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana and get 10% off your purchase.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Hey folks, welcome back. Dana Lash here, broadcasting live from Caltech's booth at SHOT Show. Really quick thing you need to know about, Caltech is giving away a gun, and you don't have to be here at SHOT Show to get it. So it's the SHOT Show week giveaway, right? And you gotta enter at www.caltechweapons.com slash Dana, and the winner's gonna be announced on tomorrow's show. Deadline is midnight tonight, and I'm very stoked about it. So you can actually enter to win your own Caltech www.caltechweapons.com slash Dana. And I'm announcing the first hour of the show tomorrow. I'll put some information up on social as well. Joining me right now, he actually got a tour of Caltech's facility in Florida. Randy Couture, the man, the myth, the legend. I mean, all around badass. Champion, movie star. I mean, I don't even know. At one time, maybe kind of a pretend divorce attorney, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
You like that skit? Yeah. I was for the MMA Awards. And one of those first years we started doing the MMA Awards, they asked me to do that skit. And I thought it was hilarious as someone who's been divorced a couple times. And... And everybody thought it was real. Like, oh, are you going to be a lawyer now? What the heck? Yeah. Oh, there were tons of stories about it. And it came back out like a year or two ago. It came back out and started making the rounds again. It was hilarious. Attorney Randy Couture. Kiltip was amazing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had a charity ride in Cocoa Beach.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Two years ago. And we got to tour. Blue Horizon, Bezos' rocket company, and then Caltech. And the CC&Rs and both of those, and the dichotomy of the CC&Rs, because Caltech makes all their own stuff, all those little parts and everything, they make it all. And I was amazed at what they had in their facilities. They were really, really cool. George Kellgren is kind of like a mad scientist. Yeah, it was really cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's like he said, the 5'7", or what they call the 57 that they're coming out with, where it's the clip, the stripper clip. I just got it. You got it already?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I just got it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Randy Couture got his before me.
SPEAKER 06 :
He's got that 5'7", with the weird mag that loads to the side, and the rounds sit in, and come around, and then get...
SPEAKER 09 :
It is. I've never seen a 5.7 that's that light and thin before.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's really cool. It's different. I haven't shot it yet. I literally just got it a week ago.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I'm so jealous. I don't even have mine yet. Don't even have mine yet. So I want to ask, because you have so much stuff going on. It's like every time we talk or every time I see you, you've got either a series coming out, you've got something, a movie, something. that you have in the works.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're basically saying I can't find my butt with both hands and that's true. It's like, yeah, managed chaos. I did a film in August, the last one I did was called Pitfalls, a horror flick, a lot of fun. I played the psycho, running around the woods killing people.
SPEAKER 09 :
You were great.
SPEAKER 06 :
It took two hours to glue all that hair on.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was going to ask you about the makeup process for that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it was quite a process. Because obviously I don't have any hair of my own. Yeah, you know. But it was a fun movie. Very ambitious. We shot that film in 20 days up in Canada in Langley.
SPEAKER 02 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
And, man, we banged it out. Had a blast doing it, though. Yeah. Most slasher flicks, they don't really give you any backstory.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, they don't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Why is this guy a psycho? What's this all about? They don't give you that. And what I liked about this script is it actually did flashback to why this guy is a maniac running around the woods killing people.
SPEAKER 09 :
And in some ways it made it scarier.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I thought that was cool. It did. You actually knew what he'd been through and then knew what he was capable of.
SPEAKER 09 :
Randy Couture, if you're around tomorrow, you're always welcome back. We've got to get going. They're going to drop us. Dana Lash, I'll be back tomorrow. Randy, always a legend.