Join us as we explore the impactful cases spearheaded by the ACLJ this March, from advocating for a teacher's right to prayer to battling governmental inefficiency with Doge at the helm. We spotlight the recent court victories that reinforce constitutional rights and discuss Bill Maher's planned meeting with President Trump, signaling a surprising shift towards bipartisan dialogues. As the March Life and Liberty Drive comes to its deadline, we reflect on the significant strides made in supporting pro-life resources and urge listeners to participate in critical initiatives aimed at preserving freedoms.
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We got breaking news. Doge enters the CIA to start cleaning things up.
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And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We got a packed show today. We're going to have an ACLJ attorney on with a big win. It's real fun. It's actually continue on, but you're going to be able to hear an update, a real update of what we're doing. And look, I may be talking a million miles an hour. That is because this is the last day. of our Life and Liberty Drive for March. Of course, that focus usually is on life. And then we move into some of the big wins and the big moments that are happening for Liberty right now. As I said, phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. You may have seen the headline if you're watching on YouTube or on Rumble. And that is, yes, Elon Musk and co., the Doge team, are entering the CIA today. And look, I think we need to talk about this as those protests continue for Tesla, as Elon Musk has continued to be the boogeyman. I was just in L.A. over the weekend, I can tell you. No one's talking about Trump. They are talking about Elon. That is the number one discussion point. And of course, the people on the ground there, Maybe they like what's going on. Overheard a lot of conversations being like, well, you know, who wants government waste? A lot of that kind of discussion happening. But of course, in the media, it's being spun a very different way. But today... Elon Musk is set to visit the CIA to start discussing how they can bring more efficiency to the department. But, Will, I think what we need to make sure people are clear about is this CIA, we're now months into a Trump administration CIA. They're welcoming in Doge. It's not like a – you think of it like a raid. This is not a raid. These are cordial now. These are an organization. Sure, no one wants to see jobs get cut. But you even had John Ratcliffe saying that he's coming in and I'm sure he's happy to meet with him.
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That's right. John Ratcliffe, who is the director of the CIA, actually early in the administration said, I would like to see. The Doge team come to the CIA. He even did something similar with the buyout of staff at at CIA to to lower the workforce or give early retirement to individuals. I think that what you're going to see with this is another attempt by the media, though, to make this seem like something really nefarious is happening. You're going to see them say. How dare they allow Elon Musk, an unelected, not bureaucrat, just unelected individual, even though the only person in the executive branch that is elected directly is the president of the United States and his running mate, the vice president. But pay that no mind. But they'll treat you like you're stupid and don't. And they're going to have access to every secret of America. And then Elon Musk is going to sell that out to China. And it's going to be terrible. This is the end of the road here. He's going to go start doxing all of the undercover CIA agents. No, they're going to go in there. They're going to talk about efficiency. And I think carrying over from our conversation on Friday, where you saw those very serious principles of Doge talking about what their work actually is. Yeah, I think every single government agency needs a little bit of a taste of that to make sure that we're not just wasting money here and there. I think this is going to be one of the harder lifts for the Doge team because I think a lot of money is probably not directly enumerated in the budget of the CIA. But I think it is a good move and we'll see what comes out of it.
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That's right. I'd love to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. You're going to hear from this from me a lot today because it is the last day. And it is a big day. We got to make sure we hit our goal, and we are behind right now. So I need you. Midnight tonight is the deadline for March's Life and Liberty Drive. Your donations are doubled. You need to be a part of it right now. If you want to see what's happening with Doge, you want to see that to be more. We are involved in many different ways. We filed seven briefs in five different courts to defend the fight for Doge to stop corrupt spending. Of course, that is also... filing to allow president trump to stop funding planned parenthood and other abortion clinics and we filed and we've won in two other cases defending all those executive orders so right now it's very important that you give to organizations like the aclj that's why we're putting this qr code up on the screen right now i want you to scan it as we go into break Do it right now. Again, 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on the air. But go ahead and make that donation right now. It's tax deductible. We urgently need your help. And your gift will be doubled today at ACLJ.org. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. We are here. That's me. So that's great. There you go. 1-800-684-3110. We're continuing the discussion on Elon Musk and the team visiting the CIA today. And look, there's a lot of talk, a lot of talk about the defunding and whether what's good, what's bad. I was in LA over the weekend. I went to see a stage show, like a Broadway style show. Of course, I know you're probably gonna get mad at me for that. You're gonna be like, how dare he? But I'm a patron of the arts, if you will, Will. It's going to get worse when you tell them what you saw. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to tell them. Oh, okay. Good. They can figure it out themselves. Okay. It had a lot of, you know, a lot of magic in it. But I saw this play. And at the end of the play, they came out and they cast in and said, hey. Funding for Broadway Cares and AIDS research is under attack right now and it's a very unsettling time. So if you can give, please consider giving. And give right now. We're going to have buckets that's going to get passed around like a church to donate to this. And I thought, exactly. This is how it's supposed to be. Do you care about the funding of AIDS research or do you care about the funding of Broadway Cares and everything they're doing? Great. Make your donation. Put your money where your mouth is. You all just spent $150 to $250 on a ticket to see this play. This is how we were supposed to do charity. This is how we're supposed to do church. This is how the country works, which are when there are those specialty things and the government's not taking more of your money. You are able to make these kind of donations, support the kind of things that you care about, as a lot of us do. We don't rely on the federal government to give us that money. This is what happens here at the ACLJ. You support it. Do you care about what we talk about? Great. Well, there's ways you can help because it's all funded just by you. Same thing can happen for a lot of these organizations and charities. I'm not someone who's saying we need to go and cut everything. I think that there are some really great causes that the U.S. government does work with that does great humanitarian aid. But what I really wish is that the American people would actually stick up for those organizations and not rely on the federal government to handle charity.
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That's right. And to some degree, that's how the big government mentality has been able to creep, is that there are the ability to then start going and funding NGOs, which is almost comical to think that some of these non-government organizations... would not exist or do not exist without government funding so they should be quasi government organizations not non-government organizations but it the oversight breaks down at that point when you're looking at it from that perspective as well because then your taxpayer dollars are going to a third party that is not government that is not subject to the oversight and the checks and balances of our government and so when you talk about it's one thing to talk about charitable organizations or grants like that And that's what's been the big headline from all of the first round Doge media blitz is that those are also the easy things to find and correct of like a government here, a grant here that the government shouldn't be funding. We can just get rid of that until, you know, a lower court judge puts an injunction on it nationwide. Right. But the real work, and I think where, as we mentioned on Friday, that the Doge team should have done that style interview earlier to really get to the bottom of these are the types of things we want to look at, the systems within government. The way that our government operates, whether it be Social Security to the retirement program within the government to even now the CIA, are there things we can get in there and find ways that we're operating that are stuck in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s? And bring that up to modern standards for a host of reasons. One, to make it more secure, to make it go quicker, to save money. So when they talk about things like Social Security, that they want to find $300 billion or something within Social Security, they're not talking about cutting $300 billion of benefit to the Social Security recipient. They're talking about how expensive it is to run that bureaucracy. When you're talking about 40% of the incoming calls being from people trying to commit fraud. When you talk about the way that things are handled on paper still. How it takes nine months to retire someone from the government. Those are things that if they can be done quicker and more efficiently, save money. You don't have to spend that money of taxpayers to go in and do it this old way. And that's where you look at the CIA. I don't think as the media is going to try to declare that this is all of a sudden him, he's going to go in, he's going to start line iteming undercover agents to fire. No, what they're going to do is find ways that the CIA, the clandestine, uh, central intelligence agency is working inefficiently and try clandestine. You know, top secret spy stuff.
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I know. See, that's what you should say. Spy stuff. Top secret spy stuff, not clandestine. Well, clandestine seems like an all-inclusive resort I would go to.
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Clandestine? I would go to clandestine. They also have an escape room where you are a CIA agent trying to get out. Yeah, it sounds like very fun.
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Clandestine. You'll see the ads running now all of a sudden. We need to open that. All right, let's go ahead and take calls. Let's go to Minerva, who's calling in Texas. Also, name of a character I saw in the play. Minerva, you're on the air.
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I wanted to comment that I don't even watch the local news anymore because... my blood pressure can't handle it all the lies the we have veronica escobar and everybody here is the majority are democrats i used to be that way thank you to you guys you guys opened my eyes i hear you on kelp my christian channel but but it's wonderful when you open your eyes and you hear the lies they're going to cut social security checks they're going to cut this and then they came and they um did the picketing at tesla this weekend And ask them what they believe in. They're like parrots. They just say what they see on the news. Do you check it? Absolutely. And Elon Musk is rich and famous and he doesn't care about the local people. Do you understand where your money is going? And I'm going crazy.
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investigated it's lies and everybody here follows you're exactly right i have these conversations all the time especially with a lot of people who say hey i'm open-minded i want to hear your point of view you'll see a lot of those kind of baiting posts on social media now being like look i'm not gonna try to fight you i just want to know how you possibly can agree with what's going on and then you have a discussion you realize that their point of view is only you know a half inch thick They have no idea really what's going on, whether that's on this topic, whether that's what's happening in the Middle East. They are just, as you said, parroting the very brief posts that they see on social media. They are parroting what they are seeing on television. They have no idea truly what's going on. And then, of course, when you try to and you say, okay, this person really would like to have this discussion, it turns south very quickly. All of a sudden, you're getting called names. You're getting called a racist. You're getting called all these things because it's the easy way out. But I encourage you to try to have those conversations, but don't get sucked into it. If they're not willing to actually have a real discussion and actually have some open mind. And look, we're going to talk a little bit later about Bill Maher is going to be visiting the White House this week and what that's going to look like, or they announced it officially. You know, that's... an interesting spot to be in, okay? Where you have Bill Maher, who historically has been a leader of the far left who has now seen his own Democratic Party and his own left go beyond him. So much so that he is actually willing to go sit with conservatives now. He's willing to go sit in front of President Trump, actually be honored to go to the White House and meet with him, even if they disagree. After years and years of bashing, that shows you actually where conservatives land on a lot of this. that they will have those discussions and those debates and they're not scared of them. Because you know what your background is. You know the facts. You listen to this show. You watch this show on YouTube. We give you the tools to be your own boss, Will. Like Enterprise Rent-A-Car. Like Enterprise Rent-A-Car. And we tell people... The true facts. And then you're able to go and share those. That's one of the great things ACLJ does. It's not just this show. It sounds like I'm just like tooting my own horn here. No, you go to ACLJ.org and there is a treasure trove of content that is absolutely free, not behind a paywall. It is just there for you to take in, to ingest, and be able to use however you'd like. Whether you want to share that content on social media, whether you want to have that information so you share it with friends, or if you need legal help. Because there are some big wins happening right now. In the next segment, you're going to hear one of those wins. And then tomorrow, we can't say it yet, but there's something happening tomorrow. And I'm excited to share that as well. Because the ACLJ can be there for you and is there for you. Whether that's providing incredible content like this broadcast, whether you're watching it on YouTube in podcast format, Or maybe, like I said, you need legal help. Or maybe you just want to be armed with the facts. So you go to ACLJ.org, you download the ACLJ app. All of this material is available for zero cost. But it can only be at zero cost because people like you have decided that this work is important enough to fund. Not the federal government saying it's important to fund. Not some big government grant saying it's what should be. Not big corporate sponsors saying individual people like you, ACLJ supporters who maybe give one time a year during these big drives. And right now, this is the last day of the March Life and Liberty Drive. Midnight deadline to have your donations doubled. Of course, we've been focusing a lot on what's going on in life as well. We know you care a lot about the unborn. We have filed... to defund Planned Parenthood. Once again, we're waiting to hear back from the Supreme Court on this. This is a big moment. Of course, you have President Trump saying he's ready to do it. We've got a major lawsuit to defeat the government of Massachusetts. That's our plan. And the abortion industry, you've heard about that. Our Choice Begins Here campaign, which was our counter campaign, which we've seen massive success in because people like you donated up to $500,000 to have that campaign of hope and true choice. to help those pro-life pregnancy resource centers. As you stood up and it's time to do it again, we're short of our goal. Scan the QR code right now or go to aclj.org. back to secular phone lines are open for you right now i encourage you to call 1-800-684-3110 1-800-684-3110 we're gonna continue our conversation about elon musk visiting the cia as well as president trump having an unlikely guest coming to the white house of course that is real times bill maher from politically incorrect and stand-up comedian someone who has not been a friend to the to people of faith for a while but we've seen him have a bit of a change of heart recently And now they're going to have a sit-down dinner together, which is pretty interesting. But I did want to talk, because we are in that last day of our life, and Liberty Drive for the month of March. And I wanted to bring on one of our attorneys, ACLJ Senior Attorney, a great member of our team, Christy Campagnone. I say it a hundred times, Christy. You think I get it right. But... This is a good moment for the ACLJ. We are seeing success happen again and again. And this one, you all may remember us talking about, which is a teacher who essentially was told, and you can give us, Christie, a brief sort of 101 overhead, was told, no, you can't be seen praying by anyone, by your students or anything. Again, not leading prayer. We're not talking about that. We're talking about she couldn't be in her car praying in the eyeshot of someone on the staff and one of the students.
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Exactly. So this all came up with See You at the Pole, which is a standard thing that we've had in the United States for many, many years, where both teachers and then sometimes students will go before school, before classes and meet at the flagpole for prayer. So our client is one of the teachers with a few other teachers. There were no students there, went in September and prayed at the pole. And then, of course, had the principal come and grab them from the pole before. bring them into his office and tell them that they're never allowed to pray in the presence of students. And then when they responded with, well, it wasn't in the presence of students. There were no students there. He said, well, yes, there were students walking into the building that could have seen you. And you're not allowed to do that. That's school policy. So we brought our lawsuit and we just had a big win down in Texas. The court denied the school's motion to dismiss, which means our case is live and the court effectively agreed with us that our complaint sufficiently alleged all of the facts needed to go forward and win that our client's constitutional rights were violated by this official school policy.
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And Christy, for those watching, the motion to dismiss was brought by the defendant. So the school, the principal wanting to have this case thrown out of court because obviously they're not wanting to be sued over it. So this is really like the big first legal hurdle that you have to get past. And sometimes if a judge doesn't want to deal with it. or if they don't think that it was enough standing is there to be brought, they can just get it out of their court, clear it out. But I want to read this from the opinion on this motion to dismiss because it's one, it bodes well for the future of our client in this as we go forward. But I also want to get your reaction when the judge writes, accepting the allegations in the complaint as true, Kennedy serves as an on-point case that clearly establishes that it is a violation of the First Amendment for a school to instruct its employee that she cannot pray in the presence of students. Therefore, Principal Rounds is not entitled to qualified immunity. Meaning the principal was trying to argue that as an employee of the school district, he couldn't be named as one of the defendants in this lawsuit as well. But we claim big victory here because we have that next step. But now our team has a lot of work ahead. And there's no better time than today to have a victory like this when we're in the end of our life and liberty drive for March because these resources are going to be needed. We need to now take this forward and fight in court to make sure that, yes, we survived one hurdle, but we have to get to the finish line.
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Yes, it's very exciting for us that one line from the judge was very strong in our favor, but that doesn't mean that we have an automatic win. And so the next steps here is we've got to go through what's called the summary judgment motion stage. So that's where we ask the judge to rule based on the evidence that's been presented and based on our complaint without having it to go to trial. And if we can win on that, that would mean we win the entire case. So, we've gotten one step in, but now we have the big fight ahead of us with these summary judgment motions. So, we're going to file one. I am sure the school is going to file one. We then have to respond to each other. It's a significant amount of time, a significant amount of writing, and a whole team of attorneys that are going to be on this. So, you're exactly right. We couldn't do this without your support because this is, I mean, we're talking 30 plus hours of of our time and you guys are making that possible so that we can do that for our client and not just our client but this is going to set precedent along with kennedy for future school rulings and so this is very exciting but we got we need you to get it there
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And Christy, we know that while viewers and listeners may think, okay, this is one teacher in Texas. We know that's never the case. We know that school, and you may be surprised that this is happening in Texas, but you know that it's happening all over the country. It's one teacher speaking up. Right. So if people have something similar happening to them, they can go to aclj.org help and our attorneys will be there to guide them through this process and secure victory for their constitutional rights.
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Exactly. So if we hear of anything else like this, we can not only use the little win that we have here, but we can jump into court and try to bring another case as well. And so then the more cases that we have in all of the courts, the more likely it is that we can solidify this precedent moving forward. And right now, our whole goal is trying to determine where are the boundaries of the Supreme Court case in Kennedy and that quote that you read from the judge. is one step in helping solidify that, that these teachers do have the right to pray in front of students, maybe not in class time, maybe not when the students are asking for them to do certain things, but when they're on their free time, in the lunchroom, on snack, on break, before school, of course they're allowed to pray, and that is what we're here to fight.
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Thank you so much for joining us today. And look, these are very important issues. And I think people, like Will said, you can maybe look at it from a small scale and be like, this is sort of lowercase p persecution. Like you could say, hey, we know what's happening in places like Congo and where people are being murdered for their faith. And yes, this is not that. But the ACLJ is involved in that as well. So we're able to multitask. We're able to get an incredible team that can go all around the world. but also can go to Texas and represent a singular teacher to hopefully set precedent for the future to say, of course, you can pray. Of course, you can pray in your car. Of course, you can pray before your meal. Of course, that is violating your not only First Amendment, but your religious freedom. You get prey before a meal. This is absurd, but thankfully, we have an incredible team that can get into action very quick. And you may even say, why is the state of Texas even pushing this? Why do they not just figure it out and settle it? Hopefully, they do down the road. But what we like about this and what you can see this is that the ACLJ can get it done even when things may be hostile. So right now, this is the last day of our March Life and Liberty Drive. You just heard from Christie about this very good win that again, it's a, you don't wanna say it's a temporary win, but it's a win to move us forward. And a lot of times in the law, it doesn't move as fast as you'd like. Trust me, I've been there, I understand. It's not fun for it to last so, so long. But unfortunately, sometimes that's how the courts work. But there's other instances where things move very fast. And tomorrow, we should be able to share one of those. And I'm excited to share that one with you. But right now, this is the last before the break, the last time you can give. A lot of you lose us here. If you listen on Terrestrial Radio, find us on aclj.org broadcasting live, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time. That's on aclj.org, on YouTube, on Rumble, on Facebook, on X. And of course, you can find us archived later on, aclj.org, the app. Anywhere you get podcasts, you can find Seculo there. But right now, I'm going to encourage you, because without you, we're never going to hit this goal. And we are short of that goal. And midnight tonight is our deadline. Give right now. Scan the QR code. All your donations are doubled by another incredible ACLJ supporter, ACLJ champion. So right now, do it. Go to ACLJ.org and we will be right back.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. We got a second half hour of our show for you right now, and it's going to be packed. And we're going to talk not only about Elon Musk's little stop in, little visit, the Doge department, popping into the CIA, see what's going on, looking at the books, seeing where things can get cut. We're going to talk about that. So keep calling if you want to talk about that at 1-800-684-3110. You also heard about that victory that's going to allow our case for that teacher to continue moving forward. And that's an amazing thing. Those big wins, they may sound little, but they can move. And they move to the next step. And that next step is hopefully a step to full victory. And of course, if we live in America, you'd think that's the case, that that's what would happen. But we're also in that last day of our March Life and Liberty Drive. And I want to know of our topics, what do you care about the most? That's always something I find very interesting. Put it in the chat or maybe call in. Do you care about Israel? Do you care about what's going on in life? The pro-life movement right now, it's a very different time. Do you care about government efficiency and Doge and or religious freedom? Or maybe you care about the European center and what we're doing all over the world. Maybe you care about helping persecuted Christians all around the world. I want to hear from you. Give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. Because we can't win those battles without you. And I also want to make sure that we are supporting the causes you care about. And we're still short of our goal. And look, midnight tonight is the end for the March Life and Liberty Drive. Your donations are doubled. And we focus this month a lot on life. You saw us launch that Choice Begins Here campaign in Massachusetts. Hundreds of babies have likely been saved. Because we've seen how many people have gone to the website in that local area in just the one market, just Boston, Massachusetts, in that area. Hundreds of people have gone, maybe more than that now. It's probably thousands. They're going to get a new update on that number. Maybe thousands of people have gone and tried to find locations of pro-life pregnancy resource centers that are going to help them make the real choice. And that real choice is for life because we know these pro-life pregnancy resource centers are being attacked by their own state. simply providing that choice for simply providing hope and i don't know what else ultrasounds baby formula clothes we had one person call in said they paid for their kids first birthday party these are sweetest people you've ever met a lot of them are very volunteer driven and they are being you know really hurt by their own state and we have seen that ad campaign that they ran against the pro-life pregnancy centers work We saw that they had 30% less people visiting during this ad campaign that the state has been running. And 30% more abortions. So we knew we had to fight back. So the ACLJ created the Choice Begins Here campaign. And we've been talking about it for this month of March. It's only a three-month campaign because that's what we have budgeted. You helped us raise it. And maybe you want it to continue on. Maybe you want to see more. We need to hear from you that that is what you want. So I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org and if you can today, because your donations are doubled, which means, by the way, that there's another group of ACLJ supporters or ACLJ champions. Champions give on a monthly basis. Those ACLJ champions are ready to unlock a matching donation. They're asked sometimes if you're one of the top level ACLJ donors, maybe you've given a lot in the past, which we really appreciate. You're asked, hey, would you consider putting your donations towards a matching fund? So we know when this happens, your donations can be matched and doubled. You're essentially connected. You're essentially matched with someone who will say, yes, I'll give an extra $10. I'll give an extra $20. I'll give an extra $2,000. Because any donation, the cap is very high. And our goal, we're still short of. And without you, we can't do it. So I'm going to ask you right now, go to ACLJ.org. We're going to continue the discussions going on because I think, well, it's important time for people to focus on, sure, global events, what's happening around the world, what's happening in politics, but not to forget people like the teacher, not to forget the church on the beach.
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Well, and I also want to bring up what you mentioned in the last segment where the persecution in the Congo that we're also fighting for. Daniel on YouTube was asking about that. And that's in the Democratic Republic of Congo. There were 70 Christians that were abducted from their homes, primarily women and children, taken into a church and brutally executed there. And we at the ACLJ are also fighting that. And we've sent a letter to the UN Human Rights Office of the High Commissioner urging that the DRC government prosecute those responsible, pressure Rwanda to cease its support for the rebel group, and call on the UN to establish a dedicated body within the Human Rights Council to monitor that. That's also work we're doing at ACLJ. You can support that by giving today at ACLJ.org.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to Sekulow. We are discussing now the interesting dinner that looks like it's going to occur between President Trump at the White House and an unlikely... Maybe new friend. He says not a friend, but someone who's been very hard on the president, but has kind of seen the light a little in recent years. And that, of course, is television commentator, stand-up comedian Bill Maher, who I've actually been a viewer of real-time or politically incorrect most of my life. I think that Bill Maher is someone who I disagree with fundamentally on just about everything until the last maybe five years. But I always respected his show. He always would have on people who did represent the conservatives and not people that were just going to be there to get made fun of. Now, the stuff he was doing during the first Trump administration, I'd say, was pretty intense. And maybe I stopped watching towards then. But he's had a little bit of a wake-up call. And he started having a podcast where he would bring on people he would disagree with. He would bring on other conservatives. He would bring on different people. One of them recently was Nashville's own Kid Rock, Bob Ritchie, who came on and after a little bit asked the president, hey, would you consider meeting with Bill Maher? And this is big news because who knows how that can go. But the fact that the President of the United States is willing to have this sit down is pretty remarkable based on what we've been dealing with the last decade. And honestly, the fact that Bill Maher would accept it. Because that's kind of a death nail to certain people in his audience. Because he has certainly been more moderate recently. He has always, by the way, he's someone who is a devout atheist. He created Religious, which was a movie about that. Now, in that movie, and even if you saw him, he was very critical. on the radicalization of the islamic world very critical on the middle east and the way they treat women was very critical on a lot of those things so that kind of lines up with where he's gone including the support of israel because a lot of people look at that in the far left now you know is somehow advocating it seems like for that they're advocating For these moments. So he was never exactly, as his show said, politically correct. But President Trump, last night, it was been talking about the last couple of weeks that this is going to happen. Chris Cuomo was on a podcast on Club Random, Bill Maher's podcast, and he talked about how he was going to be honored to go. And finally, there was kind of the official confirmation. This is from President Trump just last night on Truth Social. It is a mouthful. I'm going to read it to you, so just buckle in. I got a call from a very good guy and friend of mine, Kid Rock, asking me whether or not it would be possible for me to meet in the White House with Bill Maher, a man who has been unjustifiably critical of anything or anyone Trump. I really didn't like the idea much, and I don't like it much now, but thought it would be interesting. The problem is, no matter how much he likes your favorite president, me, he will publicly proclaim what a terrible guy I am. Very much like the Democrats at my recent address to the joint session of Congress, where I stand correctly that no matter what I said or did, they wouldn't stand, they wouldn't applaud, they wouldn't smile or laugh, and certainly they wouldn't be in any way nice. Who knows, though? Maybe I'll be proven wrong. In any event, I'm doing a favor for a friend. I look forward to meeting with Bill Maher, Kid Rock, and I believe even the legendary Dana White will be present. It might be fun or it might not, but you will be the first to know. So I'm pretty sure that came directly from President Trump.
SPEAKER 10 :
You think Ian Stafford write that and say- He may have been speaking it. Did he put it in chat GPT and say, make it sound like me, your favorite president?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, make it sound like me and make it a little concerned, but I'm doing this for the greater good of the American people. Because it really is what, to me, that's what that is. It is actually being at the greater good of the American people. It's saying, let's sit down with people who have been really opposed to us publicly and A guy who said he is a dictator and so on and so on over and over again. But now he's going to the White House to meet with him. That's a good sign for the country.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I don't think that either Trump nor Bill Maher. have anything to gain really from their base by this meeting. You know, you think of a, some of the times the public meetings that turn into like a shouting match that are filmed or something, it's like, yeah, there's red meat for your base to see you being tough. I think that this for Bill Maher, he can, I really feel like he means it when he's like, this could be a good thing for the country because it definitely isn't a good thing for his most ardent supporters.
SPEAKER 04 :
that think this is a terrible idea they've already started to turn on him just for having some basically old school democrat true liberal theology right true liberal beliefs uh that has been an issue with his audience over the last few years and we've seen it kind of creep into it to now like i said if he had done this before it would have been the end of his career because his audience had become so far left. Now he is getting a bit more from the moderate podcast-y kind of world. So maybe that does help him a little. I don't think it helps him if though it turns into some sort of shouting match, nor do I anticipate that it will. I think they're both, you know, have similar backgrounds. I have a feeling this will be cordial and, you know, both really funny guys. So we'll see.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and I think also that, We say Bill Maher seems a little bit more moderated compared to the party. And I think it's important to point out for everyone, this doesn't mean that he is really what we would even consider a moderate. He is a liberal. He is definitely on far left of the political spectrum. But what separates him from the current party is he uses his brain and he can see things that are rational in the world. It doesn't mean that he believes the policies of conservatives, but he at least thinks about it instead of automatically writing everything off. There was this clip about the NPR PBS defunding that I think just showcases once again that if you're a rational Democrat or member of the left, then you can say things like this, and it's like, oh, I agree. There can be common ground on issues, but it doesn't mean that you're all of a sudden a conservative or even are going to vote for someone. You're just honest with yourself. Yeah, I think we should play this, though, because it's interesting to hear the rationalizing of what Republicans and conservatives have long thought about even NPR, which made so much news last week. This is Byte 12.
SPEAKER 03 :
The heads of NPR and PBS testified before Congress this week amid accusations of liberal bias. Should the government continue to send taxpayer dollars to public broadcasters? Well, a little background here. I mean, they've been after them for the Republicans have wanted to get rid of PBS for as long as I can remember. This crowd will probably do it. I mean, I also read my namesake, Catherine Marr, was head of NPR and NPR. You know, she said, we're completely unbiased. Give me a break, lady. I mean, they're crazy far left. So, I mean, I think we're past my view. We're past the age, really, where the government... First of all, why do we need to subsidize? Why can't we have outlets like this? And we're so polarized. These... outlets became popular at a time when republicans and democrats didn't hate each other and weren't at each other's throats and didn't think each other was an existential threat in that world you can't have places like this i think anymore they have to be private
SPEAKER 04 :
that of course is coming from Bill Maher on his show real time. And I think, yeah, I think that's the, that's the big wake up call to a lot of people is that there are people like Bill Maher. And look, I'll even go back to maybe the one of the first times we had Tulsi Gabbard on this show, she was still a Democrat. Maybe she had been an independent. And I kind of asked her, I go, does it not feel like our generation? And when I say our generation, people now that are getting close to her a little over 40, uh, aren't necessarily always striving for, do I agree with this person? It's, do I believe that this person is being honest and are actually talking what they believe? They're not just parroting a party. They're not just parroting some sort of rhetoric. And look, I think that Republicans and conservatives have had those issues too, where I think there's a lot of that going on where it needs to be, let's not just fall in line here and whatever a certain administration says, you have to agree. Let's talk this out. But in these instances, when you had a Tulsi Gabbard who then moved, again, didn't necessarily move far to the right as much as felt abandoned by her party. I think the same was with Bill Maher. Again, not praising Bill Maher. I think he's a talented guy, a smart guy, even when I disagree with him. And he's someone who clearly is thinking for himself. But I do think when you have a president like President Trump who's willing to do this, none of these kind of people probably would even be invited to a Biden White House. I don't think Bill Maher was being invited to do that. President Trump is willing to have those, I don't know, they're stirring moments because it goes, oh, this is sort of out of left field. And I love, of course, for me, the entertainer in me is like, I love that this was set up by Kid Rock and Dana White will be there. Those are like, that's an all-star cast right there.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. And once again, even the humorous post on True Social that he put up that's, you know, it probably won't be good. Maybe it will. You'll be the first to know. But just once again, everyone in the left and in the media tries to make it like Donald Trump is not in any way someone who could unite anything. But he's actually willing to have these conversations. And I don't see the other side willing to do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
Yes, thanks for taking my call. And I agree with the first caller and what she had literally said. It is very difficult to try and convince the liberal Democrats of the fact that it is the information of the Doge and so forth, that that is literally helping the entire country and even families because of the amount of money that they are literally saving and recouping from all of the useless spending that's going on. And it's unfortunate that they do not do their research because they're just trusting in the lies that has been given out by the by the liberal Democrats, and they're running on that, and running on that alone, and not doing the proper research for themselves.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, Ronald, and I think that goes to the point also of when you heard, one, the seriousness of the other aides and advisors to Elon on the Doge committee, or Doge organization within the government, and that it completely destroyed any narrative that you've heard that these are 22-year-old tech bros running around breaking the government. It was actually the opposite of that. It was... executive with Morgan Stanley, a rocket scientist, literally, that has been with Elon for a long time at SpaceX and Boring Company and X. And then you look at just the work that they're doing when they're talking about computer systems that don't even communicate with each other. So a small business administration may ping the Social Security to see if a Social Security number is real, right? but it doesn't have any sort of check like, oh, this person that's trying to get a loan is nine months old. So that kind of fraud is happening. Or you look at the systems internally where they're so redundant and it's costing hundreds of millions of dollars to prop up dated technology. And then Elon Musk says, we could not pass an audit if we were a company, the United States government. We would fail an audit. And we would be insolvent if we don't do this work. Those are very real terms that are scary when you think about the future of the country if it continues this spiral into more and more debt, less and less control over our own house's finance here in the United States. And that people will then hear one thing and run and protest a car dealership or vandalize another person's property. That's not rational. This isn't a world that we ever expected to be in where a government initiative to try and restore the financial safety of the United States and get it back on track is met with terroristic activity to the level that we're seeing from those on the far left that think it is okay to firebomb a car dealership.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I kind of go back to sort of the big push for BDS coming from Ben and Jerry's and a few of these other things. We were saying, yeah, don't eat their food. Don't eat their ice cream. You know what? Don't support them. If you feel like you don't agree with their policies or do. And you know what? You just realize that's what you're living with. In America, we have a bunch of different points of view. But no way were we saying, hey. Go take out Ben and Jerry. On my birthday, I want you to do that. Find Ben and Jerry. That's not the way we roll. Let's go ahead and take a couple more calls before we wrap up for the day. Randy's calling. Randy from Kansas, you're on the air. Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm listening to your radio and I've heard a lot about fraud and But my question is, who's writing all these scripts?
SPEAKER 04 :
crazy things that they're funding you know i know the origin i got i got you uh we run out of time so i'll make sure we get to you what's sort of the origins a lot of these a lot of these are negotiated some of these are lobbyists there are a lot of things that happen meetings if you think about aids research how much that like bono had to do with getting that uh done with president uh george w bush you know there's a lot of that a lot of politicking going on
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and Randy, to some degree, a lot of this is discretionary spending. So the agency asks Congress for a specific budget amount to fund NGOs in a certain nation. But then it's the actual bureaucrats themselves that are publishing the grants it's not the congress's line item it just says here's some money for grant work in in the continent of africa but it's the actual grants written within the bureaucracy where it gets out of control and then there's not a ton of oversight after it leaves that and you may remember elon even saying that it didn't seem like anyone was being turned down if you were on the left or even really looked into a lot of these organizations didn't have websites didn't even have ways for people to get in touch with them the money was just being
SPEAKER 04 :
flowed out, and that's what we're seeing change right now. Let's go ahead and try to get another call in. Rachel in Virginia, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hi, Champion, and you guys are wonderful. So I have a comment about my college in California. We were one of the very first to have what we called Freedom Rock. Where you couldn't have anyone, we had not taken. And he spoke. Rachel, I'm only cutting you off because we're running out of time and we think it's any other reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, I think a lot of people, when they went to college, they had that sort of free expression space where a lot of these things could happen, where you could have people from the other side or from all sides come and discuss and talk. I know at some of the university I've worked in, they have some of that as well. That has become less and less as the student body has changed. The student body is less accepting of hearing difference of opinions. But you know what I've really learned? A lot of time, it's the faculty. Students sometimes are actually pretty cool with hearing things they disagree with, having those discussions. The faculty is who clutch their pearls. But hey, let's go quickly to James. James, you only got like 10 seconds. We're running out of time. 15 seconds. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I was wondering, with all doses cutting the budget of the government, Is there any way they can work on dropping the salaries of everybody?
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm sure that conversation's happening, James. And also, you're definitely seeing people be, you know, their jobs being cut so that may, you know, balance itself out, if you will.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and to some degree, you know, there's levels within the government, the structure, the way it's set up. You're like a general services level 18 or something where that's kind of how your salary is dictated. It's a little different. It's almost like a military type structure to some degree, and there's a bracket range. But I mean, a lot of that would be set a lot of times by Congress. But I think that there's wiggle room there.
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Join Bill Gunderson as he navigates through a period of intense market volatility, triggered by President Trump's proposed tariffs. This insightful episode unpacks the immediate repercussions seen in indices like the NASDAQ and S&P 500, the ramifications for global markets, and the sentiment shifts among consumers and investors alike. Whether you're a regular investor or a market newbie, this discussion will broaden your understanding of how tariffs influence economic dynamics.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gunderson.
SPEAKER 01 :
And welcome to the Monday. It is the end of the quarter, March 31st, 2025. And what a quarter it has been and what a difference one week makes. We'll get into that. This is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. It is the Best Stocks Now show. If we can find any today. Right now the Dow is down 152. Not too bad. The Dow has recovered somewhat. It's down 37 basis points right now. The NASDAQ has also recovered somewhat off of its lows. Quite a bit actually. But it's still down 330. And we're going to compare that with where we were last week with the NASDAQ. Last Monday. What a difference a week makes. The NASDAQ is down 1.87% right now. The Russell 2000 small cap is down 2.2%. The S&P 500. We're going to end this quarter with the worst quarter since 2022. Since 2022, that's the year the Fed was on their interest rate hike extravaganza. The S&P is down 9 tenths of 1% right now. Meanwhile, gold is a winner again. Gold is up 1% today. Let me see if that's holding. Yeah, about 1%. 3,143. Interest rates are down. Flight to safety into the bond market continues. We're at 4.21% there. And Bitcoin is down to $82,957, up a couple hundred dollars today. So welcome to the Fox Now Show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here not with Barry Kite today. Barry's got a few days off here for spring break with his kids. And I'm here with Jeff Webster instead. Jeff, what a difference one week makes. Last Monday, one week ago today, we came to work. The Dow was up 598 points that day, one week ago. The NASDAQ was up 404. And my comments at the end of the day in the newsletter was, it was a huge day for the market as Trump tones down the tariff rhetoric. Greed, speculation, and momentum all showed up on Monday. Tech had a huge day. That was last Monday.
SPEAKER 06 :
What has changed? I don't know. I feel like I'm on spring break without even leaving. I'm on a roller coaster.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, we're up at Carowinds. Up and down, up and down. Theme park up there, or Dollywood. They're in Pigeon Sea. Well, I'll tell you what's changed. I can pinpoint it. I mean, when you do a newsletter every Saturday, you know exactly what happened, what changed from week to week. What changed last week was his 25% tariffs on all autos or parts thereof coming in from out of the United States. And that has rocked the markets. They've rocked his favorability ratings. I don't care what anybody says, they have. And also, we're going to find out tomorrow, there's three big elections tomorrow. And I'm sure the GOP will be watching them very, very closely. There's two in Florida. You've got Matt Goetz's old seat and Mike Walls, who's now the Secretary of Intelligence. His seat is up tomorrow. Both of those are very strong Republican strongholds, but from what I hear, they're hotly contested. You have a big Supreme Court election up in Wisconsin where Elon Musk has poured millions of dollars into it. So we're going to get an update tomorrow on where the GOP stands and where Trump stands. But, you know, most people have some kind of exposure to the stock market through 401ks, through IRAs, through Roths, whatever the case may be. And I've got to believe that the folks aren't too happy right now with the tumult, the tumult all of a sudden that has come to the market. Now, let's fast forward. We talked about last Monday. It was gleeful. There was greed. There was speculation. There was momentum. By Friday... The Dow was down 716 points on Friday. The NASDAQ was down a gut-wrenching 481 points. And the S&P 500 on Friday was down 112 points. In just the space of four days, we saw that big flip-flop in the market. Now, here's my hope, and I don't know if it's misguided or not, and I also have reservations about my hope. Trump is surrounded by stock market people. You know, I know that the guy from Cantor Fitzgerald, for instance, his name escapes me right now, but I've seen him many, many times on TV. I mean, he's a Wall Street guy. And he's in Trump's ear. Elon Musk is very familiar with the stock market and how it works. He's in Trump. And you've got also Besant, who's been a hedge fund manager for the last 35 years as his treasury secretary. He certainly understands how the stock market works. The problem is the rockiness in the stock market is trickling into consumer sentiment. And when it trickles into consumer sentiment, it can set off a chain of events, dominoes falling that lead to the consumer sewing their pockets shut and pushing us into a recession. Will Trump listen to his advisors and back down, tone down a little bit the tariff talk? Or, as he has said, tariff is his second favorite word. If not his favorite word, or is he going to go ahead with these tariffs? Now, here's my issue with tariffs, okay? Let's say that the tariffs go in place on April 2nd against any car not made in the U.S. Okay, you go out and buy a Toyota a month later. Who would do that? Or a Mercedes-Benz or a BMW? Number one, it's hurting the auto dealerships. I've got to believe our guy Tommy Baker here is pretty upset. Here in Charleston, he runs a Stellantis store, a Mercedes-Benz store, along with his American car stores. But when that tariff is collected, that 25% tariff is added on to the price of the car, it's the consumer that pays it. I think it's a little disingenuous for people tomorrow to go on TV and say, we're going to collect $6 trillion over the next 10 years. Well, who's paying that $6 trillion? The consumer is paying that $6 trillion. It's a tax. It's a tax.
SPEAKER 06 :
Bill, I basically did some back-of-the-napkin calculations and kind of summarized who I think the winners from the tariffs will be and who the losers will be. at the appropriate time, happy to share my insights on that. But it's kind of crazy and it's got everyone concerned. People are frozen. They don't know exactly what to do. But there's definitely going to be some folks that come out of this as winners. I think we'll see more people in more sectors as losers with the tariffs, but we can certainly talk about that.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, okay. The upside is, all right, we're going to crank up the American car factories, which takes time. I mean, to bring plants back from Mexico to the U.S. or for Toyota to build all their cars in the U.S., that's not going to happen overnight. I mean, the upside, what he's trying to achieve is to rebuild America's manufacturing base and bring back jobs to America, but that's not going to happen overnight. It seems to me like the pain in between then and now is, would be pretty severe so okay that's one thing to keep in mind here so stocks down again tariff uncertainty sparks volatility and you know the problem is a lot of the consumer is sentiment oh my 401k is going up my ira is going up i'm going to go celebrate i'm going to buy a new car i'm going to do this blah blah blah but as they watch their net wealth falling Just the opposite happens. And, you know, Wednesday is Liberation Day, so-called Liberation Day, when he's going to announce a whole other round. And it was just last Monday that he said he was going to tone things down, and that's why we had the huge jump in the NASDAQ at the S&P 500. And now we are back to very tough tariff talk. He's saying his reciprocal tariffs are going to target all countries. All countries. And I would just say, I'm just throwing all of this out here for everyone to know the different ways to look at this. There's also a huge backlash against American Goods. And there's a boycott of American goods in Europe taking place. And 19 cars were burnt at a dealership in Rome. Teslas. Over the weekend, as Trump presses his visors to go bigger on tariffs. We'll be right back. Welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, just four minutes ago, Trump was saying that reciprocal tariffs, six minutes ago now, Trump says reciprocal tariffs will start with all countries. He rejects a narrower launch. So either the market's got to get used to it, which I don't think it's going to, or we're going to break support. We're eerily close, as I pointed out in the technical analysis of the major indexes. We're going to break support and slip into a bear market. That's not going to be good for his market. His ratings. In the meantime, Trump's policies are fueling boycotts of American goods in Europe. Okay. But they're going to feel it big time because we're a big customer of their goods. So it sounds like we're not exactly firing, dropping bombs on Europe. And they're not dropping bombs on us. But 4 is taking place, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and I think Trump's popularity is going to be the biggest loser. I mean, there's a lot of supporters of his that are starting to become very frustrated with his tone. I mean, if you look at, you know, the U.S. consumer clearly is going to be the biggest loser. You know, industries that rely, and this includes companies that, you know, Toyota and Mercedes, We know that the BMWs are manufactured here in upstate South Carolina. Those companies rely on importers.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I mean, if you go to Home Depot or Lowe's or Walmart, almost anything non-food is made in China. And there's going to be a tax. I mean, call it a tax. You can call it a tariff, but it's a tax that the consumer will pay. unless they choose a good made in America. Now, what's the difference? If I go to Home Depot and buy a little power washer, to get rid of some of the pollen around my house that's made in the USA. I bet there isn't one, number one. And number two, if there was, I bet it would cost a lot more than the one made in China. So there's a lot of things to take into consideration here. And I heard about Peter Navarro making the round. I'm not so sure I'm a fan of Peter Navarro. He's out of Southern California. He taught, he was an economy professor. I think he was at San Diego State for a while, but I know he was at the University of UC Irvine. And, you know, he's saying that Trump's tariffs will raise $600 billion per year, amounting to $6 trillion over a 10-year period of time. But it's collected from us. We're the ones that pay that. Japan doesn't pay it. China doesn't pay it. But, I mean, their downside is nobody's going to buy their goods because they don't want to pay the tariff. And the biggest problem right now is there's not an equivalent U.S. good in many cases to choose from. Obviously, you can choose a car that's 100% made in America, if there is such a thing. I think Tesla might fill the bill there in some cases, but I'm not so sure about a Ford Mustang or a Chevy Silverado and things like that. A lot of that's made in Canada. So you've either got to buy from a very limited number of goods that are made 100% in America or not buy at all or pay the 25% tariff. Well, the European markets, which have been on a tear recently, Leading the U.S. markets, that's over. I noticed that the stocks, 600 Index, which has been leading the market. We've been talking about all these stocks ending in Y. Siemens, Engines, and all these different European stocks. The Rhine Metal, those stocks, that run in those stocks is over right now. because of the impact that the tariffs will have on them, which now you're talking about the potential for a global recession taking place.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. Same thing with the European banks, you know. Earlier in the month, I think some people were looking to some of those European banks as banks things that protect themselves a little bit, but they're all down right now. I mean, right now the only thing I'm seeing on my dashboard that looks up is some of the insurance companies right now, Bill, are up a bit.
SPEAKER 01 :
And gold. That's about it. And the bond market. The bond market is actually doing pretty good this year because rates have come down 60, 70 basis points since the beginning of the year. Now, the other safe haven has been China because they had the deep seek moment and their stocks were starting to come back. Now they're entering into correction territory amid profit-taking. So now China is going away, even though their factory activity is expanding very fast. Their service sector growth, it's a three-month high. But the big run in China looks to be over, and hedge funds are now dumping global tech stocks at the fastest pace in six months. You know, as I look at these charts, I know that things cannot be that bad at Palantir all of a sudden, and things cannot be that bad at ServiceNow all of a sudden, but these charts are ugly. And obviously, I mean, we have a line in the sand, and we've backed out again out of most of them and have raised quite a bit of cash and might have further selling to go. I mean, even Amazon's breaking down. Microsoft is breaking down. These are considered blue chip companies, you know, almost Teflon coated, but not in this environment that we're in right now. And that's where technical analysis comes in. As you know, Jeff, I download every day. I did it while we were there in Sarasota. You watched me in the little conference room before we started meeting with people. I begin, number one, with all the stocks that I own at the firm, which are usually a little over 100, somewhere in there. And then I download all the B-plus ranked stocks and then all the A-plus momentum stocks and then my bellwether stocks that I like to keep an eye on. And at the end of the day, I end up with about 600, 700 stocks, charts, charts to look at. And that's really the most telling thing for me is looking at those charts because that's a graphic representation in real time right now of the health of a stock. You go back several weeks and most of my patients look just fine, good color, good muscle tone, no temperature, blood pressure normal, blah, blah, blah. But as I look at these stocks now, which last week I was forced to sell a bunch of them because of the sell discipline that I have, they don't look very good. I mean, it's pretty hard to find a healthy stock. And as you said, where you're going to find healthy stocks? Travelers. Progressive Group, people that sell annuities, Gallagher, other insurance stocks, and pretty much especially tech. Oh my gosh, tech looks awful. So when we come back, I want to talk a little bit about Is It Time? to start hedging with inverse funds. Is it too late? This happened in three days. This is a very quick move to the downside after a very promising Monday one week ago. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson. Well, technical levels are becoming very important right now in the markets, in the indexes. a break below the 200-day moving average, which the S&P 500 toyed with, and is sitting right about there right now. A break below that could set off a cascade of selling with a lot of the people that watch the technical indicators on the market. A couple other things, though, last week. It's not all tariffs. Number two. On Wednesday, and I highlighted this in my newsletter, Microsoft greatly reduced the ambitions that they have for data center build-outs, okay? So they say there's a glut, there's an oversupply, and that sent the nuclear stocks reeling. That sent NVIDIA, that sent Arista Networks, all these stocks we used to own. We still do own NVIDIA, but not the nuclear anymore. It sent GE Vernova south. So that was a big, big hit to the tech sector. Now, on Thursday, and I don't know who's telling the truth there. Maybe it was Friday. I think it was Friday late in the day. Hewlett Packard Enterprises. And if I'm not mistaken, Jeff, that's when Hewlett Packard broke into two companies. One was the hardware, the printers and the ink, and the other one was Hewlett Packard Enterprises, which were the service, the service. Maybe you knew some people that worked there. But they're saying that the data center demand is still robust. And I also saw that SoftBank, they have major plans for investing there. $100, $200, $500 billion in data centers in the U.S. So where do you think, I mean, you have any feel at all from boots on the ground out there, are data center currently overbuilt? Have we priced too much? Have we run those stocks up too high? That's what the market is saying right now, and that's why we're seeing this big sell-off in anything data center related, Jeff. And on top of that, I'm going to give you one more piece of evidence. On Friday, CoreWeave, which is a highly anticipated IPO, an AI IPO, artificial intelligence, came public and it was met with a thud. So I got to say, and it led me to say pretty much in the newsletter over the weekend, I just think that investing in the AI and the data center space is over for now. until supply and demand get back in step. And I don't think we have any exposure there anymore other than NVIDIA in that data center space. Are you noticing the same thing, Jeff? Now, well, I have to say Palantir. What's up with Palantir right now? Is it just a sell-off because of the market, or do you think Palantir sales are collapsing all of a sudden? Maybe we lost Jeff. I don't hear Jeff anymore. Yeah, okay, we lost him somehow. Well, those are tough questions. I'm just looking at it from a technical analysis perspective and saying, wow. You know, look, there's an inverse fund. Oh, I want to talk about inverses. There's an inverse fund that is inverse the data centers. And the AI, it's inverse AI, AIBD. And that thing is just flying right now. So obviously the market feels like the data center thing is overdone, the AI thing is overdone, and they're backing out quickly. Now there's probably an overreaction to all of this, and these stocks could become good boys sometime soon. But in the meantime, that's a horrible place to be positioned. If you're not in insurance stocks and gold stocks right now, everything else looks pretty bad. And the data center related stocks look especially bad. Okay, inverse funds. Here's the issue right now with inverse funds. Look how fast things can change. On Monday, a week ago today, the NASDAQ was up almost 500 points as Trump backed down on his tariff rhetoric and his tariff plans. And then he stepped it back up on Wednesday and the market sold off. You go in there today and you buy inverse NASDAQ, inverse S&P, whatever the case may be, inverse Dow, inverse small caps, which are also getting creamed right now. And tomorrow he says, you know what, I'm going to put all of this auto industry tariffs on hold for a couple of months, which he's done before. Or this liberation day is very mild instead of being very, very harsh. And then you've got a problem being in inverse funds. I think right now I feel comfortable holding a very large cash position. I'm not like Kathy Wood, who thinks Tesla's going to $2,600 soon and staying fully invested. I think that having a big cash position, the market just does not like this environment, and so I let the technical analysis of the stocks that I own or I'm looking at help me make those decisions. Let's just look at the first quarter of this year. Salesforce down 19.3%. NVIDIA down 18.3%. I hear Jeff again. Nike down 16.4%.
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Apple down 13%.
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I do notice that Apple's up a little bit. Even Teflon-coated Amazon is down 12.2%. That's the kind of damage that has been done. And let's not forget that we probably hit a high in the market late January of this year when these stocks were way up. Jeff, I mean, so they're down year to date, yes, but they're down even more if you're measuring from the top of Amazon, from the top of Salesforce, from the top of Palantir. The damage is more in the 20% to 25% to 30% range. It's been pretty good. And who are the big winners so far this year? The soggy stocks, believe it or not. Amgen. I mean, even soggy stocks. have their day in the sun once every 10 years, once every blood moon, I guess. Amgen's up 17.8% this year. Chevron's up 14.7%. Get this, Johnson & Johnson is up 13.2%. Coca-Cola's up 13%. Is that because the fortunes at those stocks have changed and all of a sudden they're growth companies? No. Money has been leaving the higher, the big winners, the growth stocks, and trying to find a home and a parking place in these stocks. Now I would ask you, is this a safe haven right now? Absolutely not. They're vulnerable, just like all of that money that went into Europe. is now coming out of Europe. All of that money went into China is now coming out of China. All the money going into these so-called consumer staple stocks, they'll start coming out of those because now you've got a bubble in those stocks. So anyways, that's how it all works. Fire engulfs Tesla dealership in Rome, destroying 17 cars. Elon Musk remains optimistic about Tesla's long-term prospects, even as Doge Roll weighs on stock. Now, I watched the Doge guys. I love what they're doing. I couldn't believe. I can't tell you how many jaw-dropping moments there were on the waste and the fraud and the abuse and the graft and whatever else. But obviously, I mean, Musk has taken it on the chin. Musk said last week that he plans to step down from his cost-cutting role in the Trump administration at the end of May. But, Jeff, I don't think that'll help. I think that Musk is going to be forever painted, you know, as a guy that went in and was associated with Donald Trump in this cleanup effort of government. And I think Tesla's got big problems myself. But, Kathy, what's...
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It'll be interesting to see if it is, in fact. I mean, I still think that the Doge effort is a good one. Again, I think that the big culprit here, the big villain, is the big teamwork with the tariffs.
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Yeah, I do too. But, you know, I mean, it has put a lot of people. I mean, we're going to see some government spends a lot of money in the economy. Government's going to spend a lot less money in the economy. That's a good thing. But at the same time, I mean, you're going to see a hit to the economy and you're going to see a hit to the jobs market. which I know is a painful thing and it has to happen, but it's going to be a hit to our economy. We'll be right back. On that good news, we'll have some good news when we come back. Okay, I promise. There's something good out there right now. Stocks are getting cheaper. All right, we'll be right back.
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You've got to go where you want to go and do what you want to do and live whoever you do.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, the good news is, Jeff, the Padres are four wins and no losses. I can't remember the last time that happened. When was the last blood moon we had? But the bad news is the Dodgers are five wins and no losses. I know. Rub it in. I texted Jeff. I said, hey, the Padres are 4-0 so far. And guess what he texts back? Yeah, my Dodgers are 5-0. Okay, well, we're only a half game out. Isn't that right? We were on national TV last night versus the Atlanta Braves. Okay, now, let's get into some good news. The market is starting to stabilize here. The value, the relative value fund is started. The buying will begin tomorrow. I have an account that is in the value fund. So I'm the guinea pig. I am the template. I am the model that will be followed exactly to a T in the newsletter and in the daily trading announcements. And I've already seen two that look outstanding to me right now in that relative value category. Let's look inside the S&P 500. And as you said, there's certain stocks that are doing quite well today. AIG, this is Hank Greenberg's old company, is hitting a new all-time high today. If you look at a chart of AIG, which offers group and individual life insurance. And why are they doing so well? Number one, they're defensive. Number two, they're very profitable. I mean, Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway was originally an insurance company, and he owns a lot of insurance stocks. in his portfolio. And number three, they do well when the bond market does well because most insurance companies have a big stockpile of bonds that they hold in reserve. for their uh... for their uh... insurees that they have money premiums paying premiums to them so AIG is hitting a new high right now it's up three point one percent uh... the oil stocks are starting to look a little bit better I think there's going to be some supply taken off the market number one Iran Massive sanctions are coming down on Iran and their oil. If you remember, the first time around, Trump had Iran on the ropes, really, from a money point of view, and they've been selling oil on the black market, and they were getting money from the U.S., and look at all the havoc that they've done. They're still firing missiles through Yemen at Israel, number one. Number two, Venezuela. is being shut down. I saw that Trump has ordered Repsol, which is a Spanish company that had some contracts with Venezuela, through us, no longer. Chevron, he's ordered them to get out. So any Venezuela oil, which I'm not sure how much is in the world markets, is coming off the market. Number three, Russia. Putin has backed down a little bit. He's demanding a change of leadership in Ukraine, which Trump says, hey, that's not going to work in the middle of negotiations. We're not going to change and demand that Zelensky leaves office. and puts out an election, that just can't happen until the negotiations are done. So he's ready to slap big tariffs on Russian oil or anybody who buys Russia oil. China would be part of that conglomerate and other countries around the world. That's helping the oil stocks, and I see some pretty good action in them today. with the Conoco up 2.6%. Let's look at other S&P 500 stocks that are up today.
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IBM is up. Good old IBM, one of the blue chips of years past. It is one of the few tech companies that's actually in the green today.
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Ford's up 2.1%. Pepsi's up 2%. EOG oil stock up 2.2%. Devon Energy up 2.2%. Domino's Pizza up 2.2%. IBM 2.0%. Coca-Cola 2.0%. Where's Palantir? Where's NVIDIA? Where is, you know, Consolation Energy and all those? No, the action has moved away from those stocks for now. It's a different group of leaders in the market. There's actually quite a few winners in the S&P. And, in fact, if I look across at the S&P 500 right now, which just came down to its 200-day moving average, is now rallying off that stock. Its support level is 5,500. It came down, it briefly undercut 5,500, the S&P, and now it's at 5,535. So you see how those technical levels are so critical? You know, there's a lot of, what do you call these algorithms, trading algorithms that are built on these levels. They'll write in an equation, hey, if it comes down to this level, we want to be buyers in this pool of stocks. Coca-Cola, you know, Devon Energy, Philip Morris, Dollar General, Bristol Myers, etc. And all those stocks are up today. Okay, now as we go to the Dow Jones Industrial Average, there's a lot of winners in the Dow today. Let's see if the Dow has come back above even. That's why I say... It's pretty dangerous buying into inverse funds right here. The Dow is above. It's holding on to its technical levels. It looks a lot better than the other two. Well, there's more defensive stocks in the Dow. So all is not lost. The NASDAQ, on the other hand, has broken. That $17,238 level, it's moving back towards that level. I predicted that it was going to break that level on Friday in my newsletter. After it looked like a bottom had been put in, that bottom has now been violated. The tariff talk on Wednesday did it, and now the NASDAQ is rallying to some extent. It's off of its lows. Now you're looking at 16,668, which is about 300 points below where we are today. That would be a very strong support level for the NASDAQ, and that's another reason why you've got to step lightly with putting any hedges in place right now. Speaking of hedges, I've got to hedge my time here. We're up against the deadline. We've had a lot to talk about today. I'll be sending out a lot of messages throughout the day. The market is trying to rally here, is trying to get used to the tariffs. I don't know that it will. Wednesday's Liberation Day. Liberation from what? We'll see. Yeah. In the meantime, if you'd like to talk to us, GundersenCapital.com. Get the four-week trial, GundersenCapital.com. An appointment with us, 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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The discussion takes a sharp turn towards the political, as Mike and Mark explore the intriguing strategies of Trump’s presidency. They ponder on the motivations behind his polarizing actions and what it means for the future of American politics. This episode also covers essential topics like America’s stance on Meals on Wheels, the complexities of social security, and potential tax reforms, offering listeners a rich tapestry of insights and thought-provoking dialogue.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's M&M experience.
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I want to get to 90. Well, you're a mere 25 years away, coming up just in a few days.
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How bad was 65 for you? Be honest. Oh, it was meaningless. It didn't matter?
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It was absolutely meaningless. I turned 65 in November of 2022.
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I wish I could be like you. 40 was meaningless. 50 was meaningless. 40, 50 didn't mean anything. No, they're numbers. No, no, to me. Especially if it's you. No, I know. But 65 is hitting me hard. I don't know what the heck's going on with me here.
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And we all had fun when the AARP mail started to arrive in our late 50s or when you could get senior discounts. I take every single one of those senior discounts. Not me. Nope.
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Nope. I get offended. Oh, man. When they ask me, I say, how dare you? How dare you? And I'll do it when I'm, I don't know. I don't know why I'm so bothered by this. It's the weirdest thing. Meaningless.
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And 65 is the new 50. I mean, just come on. Look at Trump.
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Seriously.
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He's old enough to serve a third term.
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All right, well, let's talk about that, because I've got to get this off my chest. All right, is this going to be the first time I make MAGA mad at me? This may be the first time since he came down the escalator that I'm going to have, I know the emails are going to come in, I know people are going to get annoyed, but you know what I'm going to say, right? But just that it's stupid? It's just not my favorite thing. I don't know. He's got so much going on and there's so much on the table. Why troll everybody? Why do this? Why fan these flames?
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Because it's fun. It's this and golf are his sports.
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I mean, it is kind of a spectator sport, I guess, but I just wonder if he's not doing enough great, great stuff substantively that he doesn't need to do this, but maybe the distraction is the point? Is that why he does it?
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I think the first mistake we make is trying to analyze it with earth logic. I think he just loves watching people's heads explode. And the point that I don't want to read your mind, but I think we are of the same mind on this, that when so many wonderful things are going on, don't do things that give the haters a reason to even poke at you. Just, you know... So we kind of agree. I just don't think it matters. Yeah, sure.
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Oh, good.
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So direct all correspondence, MarkDavis at KSky.com. You think it matters, and I don't.
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No, I don't know that it even matters. I mean, we've got bigger fish to fry, there's no question. But I know in my gut why it bothers me. I'll tell you why it kind of just bothers me a little bit. It's not a big deal. You're right. It's not the end of the world. I want people who are on the fence to take him seriously. Yes. Yes. I want people – I'm thinking about the people who are sort of the undecideds, who will say, look, I don't really love his tweets and his personality, but I love his policies. His policies are good for us. I want to reach those people. And then they turn around and they say, well, Mike – How do you reach me when he says, I'm going to run for president? Actually, this is his strategy. J.D. will run. J.D. will win. And then on day one, J.D.
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will resign so Trump can take them.
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I mean, it's ridiculous. It's funny because I don't think I had actually heard what the plan was.
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Oh, yeah, that's the plan.
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Okay, let's go step by step through this. How does J.D.' 's resignation make him president again? Who? Who? Because when J.D. steps down, Trump would have to be his VP running mate. Nope. No one ineligible to the presidency can be vice president.
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We're talking logically here like it's any of it's normal. That's the whole thing. I mean, like you said, earth logic. And I mean, look, I watched this report yesterday. And this is why people are scared. CBS Sunday morning did a whole thing about the Kennedy Center. And, you know, you and I both love the arts. I know. But again, to the undecideds, they see that. Look, I'm not. I'm with him on this. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying those are the kind of substantive things we ought to be debating, discussing, analyzing. You know, does it make sense for him to run the board at the Kennedy Center and yada yada?
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No one cares. No, maybe not. Maybe I care.
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When I say no one, I mean only you. No, I'm teasing. I mean, there's some things that are so close to invisible on the public radar. Yeah, that's true. But on the Kennedy Center thing, he also has a good point. Ditto on the Smithsonian. Where this museum, this wonderful, this magnificent national jewel in the crown that is the Smithsonian Museum System, they absolutely have had a woke poison running through their history, their actual portrayals of history, for a really long time. So I think that's okay, too.
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Did I see a headline that we're going to get rid of Meals on Wheels? Did you see that headline? I don't know. I mean, but again, I'm torn because on the one hand, you think, oh, crap, you know, people who are incapacitated who get meals, that's a federal program. But on the other hand, is that something that, you know, that philanthropy takes over? Shouldn't that be in the private sector? Or should the government be involved in that?
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Or our friend the state. Right. Do I need to be paying money to feed people in Indiana? I'm going to go no.
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And certainly, are we going to pay to feed people in Ukraine? I'm going to go no. I mean, now when we go America first, though, then we start getting down into, we peel the layers and layers and layers of the onion. All right, so America first. Does that mean then we stop? Do we abdicate helping seniors and the disabled through a program like Meals on Wheels? And incidentally, I don't even know that that's true. I just saw the headline, and I had enough this weekend. I wanted to watch basketball. I wanted to just detach. And I have a happy announcement to make. Two episodes into the pit, and they got me. I'm in. I'm all in. Love it. Love it.
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Friendships. survives yes we can survive because you're right it's a great show and it isn't no little little young dr carter the fledgling in er yeah not only is he great what if i will listen 10 episodes from now you will say to me that if he doesn't get an emmy they need to stop giving away emmys I will say that I'm a little— He's that good in the entire cast.
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He's great. But I will have to admit, though, I'm a little tired of the he-solves-every-problem formula. I mean, no matter what goes on, oh, Dr. Robbie will fix it.
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Dr. Robbie will answer.
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are this dr robbie will handle this he's like the you know he's the wise sage of the other and then you got the villainous the lady the administrator keeps coming in and yelling at him because the rats are running around because of the homeless guy brought in the rats and it's a little trite but i'm still enjoying it you're right i'm enjoying listen
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And on a side note, on the world of streaming and the world of TV, we are really in a golden age. Lisa and I had a little, we floated something and we're going to work on this. This is either fair or unfair, either true or not true.
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1923.
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You on board? Are you doing 1923? Without to be, after I get through the pit, I'm going to. I'm ready to tell you it's better than Yellowstone.
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Because I love me some Yellowstone.
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As soon as I say that, I kind of stop myself. Because what it is, is it's more ambitious. It is kind of like an epic movie in terms of quality of direction. Yellowstone is just a churn it out, really cool podcast.
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Alpi's soap opera, A Masterpiece. And I love it on its own terms. They really are, even though it's a prequel of Yellowstone. It's very different. But this particular season of this formative story, 1923, is a masterpiece. Got it.
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Can't wait, can't wait. You mentioned I drove by the Tesla dealership over the weekend. Yes, tell everybody about that. That was fun. Well, I mean, it was interesting because they all looked like, well, you and me. I mean, it was a bunch of white boomers with printed up signs that were very professionally done, which leads me to this headline over at Fox News this morning. Critics speculate that the Tesla protests are not a grassroots movement, but a carefully organized, orchestrated campaign. Yeah.
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There was a weird moment. They had one in Southlake. There's a Tesla dealership in Southlake where apparently they also had record sales. So, whoops. Kind of a boycott, the opposite of a boycott, where when somebody you like is being victimized, you actually give them your money. But something weird happened. Did you notice that the window was supposed to be like 9 a.m. to noon or 10 a.m. to noon or something? In a real human protest, if it's supposed to be 10 a.m. to noon, there are protesters, and then noon arrives, and everybody kind of stands around them. lingers and you know has a cup of coffee or and then then they filter slowly away at noon it was like the whistle blew at the plant they dispersed they were gone by 1201 i know it looked very planned i also saw a picture online they were holding like scripts they had talking points for their protests
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And they were all printed out like cue cards. I mean, it just doesn't seem legitimate. I don't know. But look, I took a picture of them. I started to post it online and send it to you. And I thought, nah, you know what? Let them do their thing. If they want to stand out there on a Saturday morning, I don't care. Go buy a Tesla. Go do what you want to do. It's a great car, incidentally, and it's a great American company. And what Elon Musk is doing is nothing short of heroic. I hope you saw the clip from him in Wisconsin introducing one of his Doge engineers and what they've uncovered about Social Security. Now, we're all worried and wringing our hands, oh, are we going to lose our Social Security? And believe me, as of next week, Social Security is very much on my mind. I'll bet it is. As I go to a faraway country to try to avoid what's happening next week, this monumental achievement. And I'll be, by the way, on vacation next week, so don't call me, I'll call you. And by that, I mean don't call me.
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It's not coming at all.
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No. Or wish me a happy 37th birthday. You can do that. But Social Security is desperately in need of an overhaul to reduce the fraud, waste, and abuse. I've got a five-minute clip I'm going to play on my show. I'm going to play the whole thing. It's five minutes. I think Laura Ingraham retweeted it. Everybody should see it. What they've discovered, not only about the millions of dead people getting Social Security. Yep, 120-year-olds and stuff like that. But how about the illegals? How about all the illegals getting Social Security? And this is the plan, Mark. This has always been the plan. They're on Medicaid. They're on Social Security. They're getting American benefits now. And this guy lays out in this five-minute clip that I'll play that everybody should watch, Mark. And I've posted it on my social media. I've got it online, too, as well. Good, good. The guy lays out, well, this is why they want to have an open border. Of course. Because you've got to get them in here first, and then you give them benefits, and you reward them with things like Social Security for Meemaw or the Abuela or whatever. And then before you know it, you've got people who are here illegally living off the dole. Legalized, naturalized, and energized about Democrat forever. That's all they want is just don't vote Democrat. That's your only payback for us. So it's a really, really fascinating thing. Meanwhile, speaking back to Trump for a minute, CBS poll, he's at 50% overall approval rating. And considering what's all going on, I think that's a big win. It is remarkable. People are worried about the tariffs, and I get that. There's going to be some short-term pain. And whether or not we have the stomach for this, but I heard our buddy Chris DeGaulle before you this morning go on a rant about how Republicans fail to lead when they're in control. And he's right about this. Every time we get the reins, it's like we just all fall apart. We don't know what to do. I mean, we're happier. It feels like Republican leadership is more satisfied with the Democrats. We're better out of power.
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Sometimes we're better when we're out of power, tapping on the windows, trying to get in.
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Right, and we're complaining about not being able to do anything. Well, now we can, and now you've got to get it done, and you better get it done. You better figure out how to lower taxes. Speaking of taxes, by the way, do you want to know what DeSantis and the Florida legislature wants to do? They want to get rid of property taxes. Hello. Is Texas paying attention? Hello. Hello. Oh, my word. I mean, that's real savings. And they're talking like realistically that it could happen. I don't know where the money comes from because I look at my property tax bill. Holy moly.
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Our buddy Don Huffines ran for governor on that whole point. I was always asked him, how do you replace the money? And he said, I'm asking the wrong question. And by that, he means if you're going to get rid of property taxes, you don't look for other places. You look for things to cut. You look for ways to save. You doge the living daylights out of your state so that you don't need as much money. I think that works to a degree. But the other part, though, the other part is this starts another talk show. Maybe we can do it tomorrow. They're in Florida here in Texas. If we do away with it. Hello, sales tax. Yeah, well, that's your refrigerator just got a little more expensive.
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But maybe that's as it should be. Is that kind of a flat tax? No, no, no. Wait a minute. Consumption tax. Right, exactly. That's more of a consumption tax, which I think makes sense. If you make more, you spend more. You buy more. You pay more. If you make less...
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Except it's a little bit regressive. People who make a million dollars don't buy 10 times as much stuff as people who make 100 grand. Somebody making 500 grand doesn't buy 10 times as much stuff.
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I'm a mixed bag on the sales. I get it. I am, too, but we've got to overhaul the tax system. And you know what? Before he's done in 2028 or 2032, depending on... But before he's done, I think we're going to see an effort to overhaul the tax system. And I hope we do. Get rid of the IRS. Abolish the IRS. That'll be my protest. I'll walk around and say, I'm not really 65 and I'm against the, I'll abolish the IRS. You'll deny it if anybody holds you to it. All right. Happy Monday. Happy Monday. Final day of March. Can you believe it? I know.
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Tomorrow, April fools, who knows what we'll do.
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I hate pregs. I don't do April Fool's. I don't either. Well, now the FCC is all hot and bothered about it. You've got to be careful about it. There's FCC dictates about what you shouldn't be able to do on April Fool's Day to scare people, to fool people.
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What would be an example of something that will anger the FCC?
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Well, I don't know, like War of the Worlds stuff, I guess.
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Wacky DJ pranks and stuff like that?
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Yeah, I guess. I saw some memo the other day saying, be cautious. Don't go overboard. All right, very good. My April Fool's, I'm turning 65.
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Exactly, which is totally untrue. Total joke.
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Goodbye.
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In this eye-opening episode, Rick Hughes delves into the protocol plan of God, emphasizing the importance of divine inspiration for a stress-free Christian life. Learn the critical differences between sin and evil, and understand how your core beliefs can guide you toward spiritual maturity. Tune in to enrich your faith journey, centralize your core values, and become a role model to those around you through grace and integrity.
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Welcome to the flatline with your host Rick Hughes for the next 30 minutes You'll be inspired motivated educated, but never manipulated now your host Rick Hughes Good morning and welcome to the flatline
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This is your host, Rick Hughes, thanking you for coming in this morning. Thank you for giving me a few minutes of your time. My job is to give you some divine inspiration, motivation from the Word of God. Your job, orient and adjust as you learn God's plan, if you have a desire to do so. That's up to you. But we're going to get it right, and we're going to give you accurate information, because God gave you two ends. One of those ends you sit on and one end you think with. And quite frankly, success in life depends on which one of those you use. Heads you win, tails you lose. This is all something that someone said many years ago, but I think it's great. Real great cliche. 2 Peter 3.18 tells us to grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. That's my objective, to get you to a well-qualified pastor where you can study, learn, and apply God's Word to your life. We use a little acronym called LAG, L-A-G, Learn, Apply, and Glorify God. And so I thank you for listening. I thank you for so many of you that send me notes and letters. It's amazing to hear from you. I do really enjoy that. I've thought about reading a few of them over the air, but I don't think I really have time to do it in such a short show such as we have 30 minutes, and that's about it. But thank you. I love hearing from you. And I appreciate those of you that are telling me the show is definitely playing on your station when it's supposed to. We have a hard time with that, keeping up with shows that don't play due to technical error or just oversight or whatever. It's hardly a week that goes by that it's not a station or two that fails to air the show properly. So thank you for letting me know that. And thank you for writing. And thank you for your prayer support. So we will continue our study. Today we're going to take a look at something that's very unique. I think this is, you know, our show is called The Flot Line, F-L-O-T. This is something my pastor taught many years ago. The Flot Line is the forward line of troops, we call that. It's a military analogy. to the Christian life and staying secure in your Christian life by learning 10 unique problem-solving devices. When you learn those 10 problem-solving devices, and this is nothing new, this is age-old biblical doctrine that's been there forever, It's not something new he invented, he came up with, nor did I. This is sound, solid biblical principles. But when you understand them and when you learn them and use them in your life, then you are able to stop the outside sources of adversity before they become the inside source of stress. That's what makes the Christian life so unique. It's a wonderful way to live without stress. It's a wonderful way to live without worry, without fear, without bitterness, without antagonism, without jealousy. All the mental attitude sins that plague people of arrogance. You can actually get away from that. You don't have to be controlled by your sin nature. You can walk under the filling of the Holy Spirit. You can have a relaxed mental attitude. You can have the mind of Christ instead of thinking human viewpoint. It's awesome. And so all of this is what you do when you build a flatline in your soul. When you build that flatline, F-L-O-T, when you learn those 10 problem-solving devices, and we do have them now on a bookmark. If you'd like a bookmark, write to us. Don't send money. I'm not asking you for money. Just send us a a note, an email, we'll send you a bookmark, or we have the book Christian Problem Solving that lists all 10 of them for you. But anyhow, when you learn those 10 problem-solving devices, this gives you a standard by which you can establish a core values in your life, core values, C-O-R-E, your core values. And that's my question for you today. What are the core values of your life? You know, some people say God, family, friends. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about deeper than that. I'm talking about the fundamental beliefs of your life, the guiding principles that dictate the behavior of your life and can even help you understand the difference between right and wrong. What are your core values? A lot of people don't understand the difference between sin and evil. They think they're two different things. Well, let me explain something to you. God's plan is called grace. Grace goes like this. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. For by grace are you saved through faith. It's a gift of God, not of works, lest any man should brag about it. That's grace. It's a free gift. Now, what about evil? Evil takes grace and changes it. Adds a twist to it. So evil would say, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and give up smoking. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and give up moon pies. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and quit drinking sodas. See, they want to add something to it. Whenever you add to grace, you destroy grace because it's no longer grace. It's grace plus works. If you believe that giving up something gets you saved, you're wrong. First of all, your personal sins are not what sends you to hell. You may not realize that, but people don't go to hell because they fornicate. People don't go to hell because they steal. People go to hell because they don't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. That's, we were born spiritually dead, already destined to hell at our birth. The Bible says, for by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and death is passed on all. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. This is why you have to be born again. It's not related to sins that you do. You're going to commit sin because you have a sin nature. And as long as you're alive on this planet, you'll have a sin nature. But evil is the genius of Satan. So sin and evil are very close. Sin and evil are very close, but they are both. One's a product of Satan and his genius, and one's a product of your sin nature and its lust pattern. Both are wrong, and it's wrong for the Christian to get into sin or to get into evil. Evil can be organized religion. The most evil thing in the world is, in fact, organized religion because it's what Satan uses to trick people into thinking that they're saved because they joined up, fessed up, gave it up, did up, threw up, whatever they did. That's not salvation. And remember, let's remember, it was the religious crowd that shouted to Pilate, crucify him, crucify him, and let Barabbas, the criminal, go. We want the Christ guy dead. That was the religious crowd. They thought they were doing God a favor. They didn't want to give up any of their power, that's for sure. And so they wanted Christ dead. And it is organized religion today that will hate grace. Organized religion can't stand grace because organized religion wants to control you and manipulate you by a system of do's and don'ts. So sin and evil. Sin, all sin is evil, yes, for sure. But all evil is not necessarily sin. It's a system. It's something you do. It can be a political force, like put a chicken in everybody's pot and we'll all be equal. That's evil. And that's not gonna make everybody equal because you give everybody a chicken. We're different. We have different IQs, different mentality, different size. There's never gonna be a level playing field. If you gave everybody the same amount of money, they'd still wind up different. So we have to understand the core values in our life so that we can essentially understand sin and evil. We know how to live and avoid these things. We have to have those guiding principles in our life. We, as believers, operate under something called divine establishment. That's our value system. And it's the royal family honor code. This is where we get our core values and the royal family honor code. So if you are a member of the royal family of God, because you have trusted Jesus Christ to be your Savior, we say faith alone in Christ alone. You haven't said, I've trusted in Christ and I'm giving up smoking. I'm trusting in Christ and I'm giving up this, that, and the other. No, did you go to the Father and say, I'm a sinner. I believe Christ died for me. I'm willing to accept him as my Savior. It's that simple. Because the Bible says, he that believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. Jesus told Nicodemus, he that believes must be born again. Nicodemus didn't understand being born again. And the Bible goes on to clearly say that believe it or not, the wrath of God abides on him already. In John 6, 40, this is the will of the one that sent me, that you believe in me whom you have sent. And that's grace. So this honor code that we have, the Royal Family Honor Code, it relates to personal integrity in my life and in your life and the way that we treat other people. using obviously one of those problem-solving devices that we know as impersonal love. So the honor code would include on the flat line of your soul. This is what I'm telling you. As you build a flat line, you develop an honor code. And the honor code includes the filling of the Holy Spirit. It includes doctrinal orientation, grace orientation, and a personal sense of destiny as long as all those other problem-solving devices exist. That's your honor code. So you don't operate under the sin nature control. You operate under the filling of the Holy Spirit. You don't operate under human viewpoint. You operate under divine viewpoint, which is biblical orientation. You don't operate under work salvation. You operate under grace orientation. And you have a personal sense of destiny. You know God's plan, what that plan includes for you. So this is a code that you have to develop and adhere to in your life. as you learn and as you apply the word of God. And this is not a request, by the way. It's a demand. In 2 Timothy 2.15, study to show thyself approved unto God. You want God's approval? Then grow up spiritually. Learn his word, apply it into your life, and glorify him. How do you do it? Under a well-qualified pastor. You say, well, there's not one in my area. Well, there is a way to do it. You can order tapes. You can order, I say tapes. Today it would be CDs or MP3s or DVDs. I can show you a list of many great pastors you can study under, and all of their material is free. They don't charge you $19.95, $10.95, $9.99, nothing like that. It's free. And if you don't have a good church close by where you can learn, And you can get up in the morning like I do, get a cup of coffee, open your Bible, put in a DVD or an MP3 and take notes and study and grow and learn right there. And God will show you what you need to know. It's a wonderful way to grow spiritually. until he shows you where there's a good qualified church where you can find a pastor. But that's what you got to have. You got to have that pastor. If there's not one close by, then there's one you can get under. You don't have to be face to face always. Sometimes you have to do what I do. And that's get up, listen, shut up, get up, shut up and grow. So as a member of God's royal family, you are, I am, we unfortunately are considered aristocracy. And if we are aristocracy, which we are, we're a member of the royal family of God, then there's a code of ethics that we have to live by. That code of ethics or that core value that we have that is a much higher standard than what the world is by. The world under the cosmic system lives by relativism or humanism, but aristocracy has a standard based on the example set by the Lord Jesus Christ during his time in the devil's world. And so if we think right, if we learn God's word, if we think right with divine viewpoint, then we live right with right motivation. Right motivation means we do the right function. And we're not motivated under arrogance. We're motivated under grace. And that's the thrust of the royal family on our code. It's executed by means of the filling of the Spirit. So in your core values, when you develop those core values in your life, you can only execute, live under, and sustain yourself by means of the filling of the Holy Spirit. The protocol plan of God is what we call it. It's the greatest producer of honor and integrity in the history of the world. It's an honor and integrity produced by the ministry of God the Holy Spirit, and this honor and integrity is produced by you receiving and applying God's word into your life. Learning the protocol plan of God. What does that mean? It means the right thing must be done in a right way. A right thing done in a wrong way is absolutely wrong. A right thing done in a right way is absolutely right. You've heard me say this. Is it right to go to church? Yes. Is there a right way to go to church and a wrong way to go to church? Yes. Well, what's the wrong way to go to church with unconfessed sin in your life? If you have unconfessed sin in your life, you've quenched and grieved the Holy Spirit. Thus, if you go to church to worship God with the Holy Spirit quenched and grieved, you're not going to get anything out of it. You're not going to get any divine insight because you shut the Holy Spirit's ministry down. This is why rebound is so important. That's the core value for you. 1 John 1, 9, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us. and to purify us from all of our wrongdoing. We have to have that system of core values. We have to have the protocol plan of God. We have to understand a right thing must be done in a right way. Paul had a core value system in his life. He wrote about it in 1 Thessalonians 2, verse 10. This is what he said about his core values. He said, you are witnesses to the Thessalonians, And God also, by the way, you have family that will witness you and you will have God who watches you. You are witnesses and God also how devoutly and justly and blamelessly we've behaved ourselves among you who believe. There are three core values, devout, just, and blamelessly. This is amazing. This is what God expects out of you just like he expected it out of the Apostle Paul. He expects you to be just. You're not allowed to judge other people. You're not allowed to stick your nose in other people's business. You are to live blamelessly. You're not allowed to commit sins of the tongue, overt sins, mental attitude sins. You're not allowed to have people pointing fingers at you and saying, oh, that's a Christian, but I saw him do such and such. Listen, if you're going to sin, do it at home. You understand why I'm just kidding now, all right? I'm not giving you a license to sin. Well, what I'm telling you is that people love to blame you for their problems. And this is going to get more and more and more and more. If you're a Christian, the world is going to blame you for a lot of things because they hate Christianity. They hate God's grace. They hate the word of God. You've seen in the news already how much our nation is shifting towards a hatred for Christians. So we have to live blameless. We have to live devoted to God, which means we are consistently learning and applying his word into our life. We're consistently staying filled with the Holy Spirit. We're consistent in our prayers for others. We live justly. We don't criticize, malign, judge other people. And we live blamelessly. You know, all of this comes from absolute truth. Absolute truth. That's the Bible, the Word of God. And that tolerates nothing less than the honor code. Absolute truth tolerates nothing less than integrity, virtue, honor. All of this comes from the filling of the Holy Spirit and the perception and the application of the Word of God in your soul. this causes spiritual growth as you grow spiritually then you enter into the first stage of spiritual growth listen carefully it's called spiritual self-esteem spiritual self-esteem it's the mental attitude of self-confidence all based on knowing and applying those 10 problem-solving devices into your life, building your core values. So let me stop right now and ask you, can you tell me the 10 problem solving devices? We've only been on the air for 13 years and we've talked about them constantly. Do you know any of them? Do you know rebound? Do you know the filling of the Holy Spirit? Do you understand the faith risk drill? Do you understand grace orientation, doctrinal orientation? Do you have a personal sense of destiny? Are you motivated by personal love for God and using impersonal love for mankind? Do you share the happiness of God and are you occupied with Christ? That's 10 of them right there. And we could teach several days on each one of those things. Do you know those? Because if you don't know them and you don't live by them, you don't have a core value system in your life. This would give you a dependency on the word of God if you have it. If you learn these 10 problem-solving devices, you can have self-confidence and depend on the Word of God, not counseling from another believer. That is the worst thing you could do, to go to another believer and ask them, what should I do, brother? There was a movement around to be accountable to other people. You're not accountable to other people. You are accountable to God and the Holy Spirit. They're perfectly capable of keeping you in line. So the word of God is what you depend on, not some other believer. If you have to depend on another person, you wind up using that as a crutch. You've got to learn to stand on your own two feet. You've got to learn to act independently of other people. If God is going to be glorified in your life, you can't depend on other people to tell you what to do. What should I do, preacher? The preacher already told you what to do from the pulpit. You want him to come over and hold your hand while you go through this rough time? How does it glorify God if you're depending on somebody else to give you strength? In spiritual self-esteem, when you have that, you can deal with every stress, every problem, every adversity. You can even deal with prosperity, which you would like to deal with, wouldn't you? You'd love to be able to be tested by winning the lottery and winning $10 million in the lottery. That's a test you'd like to have. Well, who wouldn't? But if you can have spiritual self-esteem, you can handle all of these things because the core values in your soul The ones that are developed will guide you, lead you, protect you if you will live by them. You know, there's a term called professionalism. You must be a professional. A mature believer must be a professional. He must understand the mechanics of the Christian life. You and I must. We must be spiritual, quiet professionals. We have to understand humility, which is the mindset of our Lord Jesus Christ, minus any personal arrogance. I mean, the Bible tells us, you've heard me say it to you, Philippians 2, 5, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus Christ. who humbled himself and made himself of no reputation. Humility is a core value for you. You must have it. It's the opposite of arrogance. Humility is responding to living under the grace provisions of God, having a relaxed mental attitude, not being arrogant. That's humility. And then integrity. That's the spiritual strength to carry out the things that you learn, the spiritual strength to execute the plan of God in your life. When you have that, along with humility, then you have mental stability, and that stability is marked by composure in your life, self-assurance in your life. These are the kind of traits that make you a person of honor. Very attractive, too, I might add, to the lost man who will see it in your life But also you can get aware of this, it's gonna put a target on your back with Satan and the angelic conflict because the devil would love to see you fall. That way he can impugn the name of God. That's what he's all about. He doesn't wanna go to the lake of fire. he wants to get out of the lake of fire by impugning god's name and proving that god's not fair so if he can point out your failures then he can ask why are you sentencing me to the lake of fire and yet you're letting rick go look what he's done yes i'm a sinner yes i've sinned but yes i've accepted jesus christ and trusted him as my redeemer my savior and my sins have been paid for So, you know, the devil wants to see me fall. The devil wants to see you fall. Does this sound like you? You know, a lot of believers in the Lord Jesus Christ lack this self-esteem. They suffer from dependency on something else or someone else. They don't really have the ability to depend on the Word of God. They live what I call scared lives. And when you are scared, when you don't have that confidence and that dependency on the Word of God, sometimes you turn to depend on other things. You know, I mean, it could be alcohol. It could be drugs. It could be anything to remove the pressures of self-pity. Not self-esteem, self-pity. What a horrible sin of arrogance self-pity is. This is a form of arrogance that produces flaws in your character. You don't have to live like that. There's a better way to live. Proverbs 13.10 says, through arrogance comes nothing but strife, which means anger or bitterness. But in wisdom, wisdom is with those who receive instruction. One of the fantastic four, wisdom. It's the information you learned and applied into your life. It's called epinosis doctrine, full knowledge of doctrine. Remember, your pastor teaches, and you get gnosis. You get knowledge. But until you, by faith, believe it and apply it, it's not full knowledge. It's just information you heard. You might have even learned it. You might even be able to repeat it back, but did you apply it? That's where the wisdom comes in. Information you learn and apply becomes wisdom, and it's on the launching pad of your soul, ready to be fired off when you need it. And that's why you have to recall and go back over your notes, study your notes. And by the way, any of those radio shows that you might have heard us say, we can provide them for you on a CD or an MP3, or they're all on the website. You can go to the website and listen to all of them. So you may even have this flaw I'm talking about, some genetic flaw, some weakness that you're born with. Some people have a propensity to alcoholism because their parents were alcoholics. But then there's environmental flaws, and those are the flaws we acquire through our sin nature patterns and our sin nature trends. You can't afford to have a flaw. If you're going to have core value system from learning the protocol plan of God and applying those 10 problem-solving devices in your life, then you can't allow your sin nature to dictate policy. You can't follow a sin nature pattern or sin nature trend. You know, it all boils down to one thing. This is as simple as it gets. If I put it at the bottom line, it all boils down to your volition. Your volition. Volition, that's the decider, that's the chooser. You know, God put it in his word. I can tell you what the word says, your pastor can tell you what the word says, or you can read the word for yourself. But the bottom line is, will you obey? Will you comply with what's there? And we know it's the commander's intent. We know this is what God intended for you to do. Will you do it? And you say, well, I just can't do it right now. Okay, it's up to you. You can live your life however you want to live it. But at least you know what your choices are and you know what your options are. So when divine discipline smacks you on the head and drives you to the ground, you can take one look in the mirror and know why. Because you heard and decided to reject it as truth. You heard and walked away from it and went down the my way highway. And every bad decision you make just compounds the problems that much more because you have no core values in your soul. I hope you're listening. I hope you're learning. And I hope you'll come back next week. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
The Kim Monson Show brings you an episode filled with thoughtful analysis and engaging dialogue on societal control and liberty. Starting with a tribute to spring's arrival and a light-hearted weather discussion, Kim quickly transitions into more serious matters, challenging policies that employ force over choice. As Kim outlines the battle for property and personal rights under current legislative pressure, she invites listeners to consider how these issues align with historic American ideals. Further, the episode provides a rich discussion on climate change narratives and their influence on public policies. Kim scrutinizes Senate Bill 25-201, presenting it as a potential digital regulation threat disguised as a protective measure. This episode encourages citizens to stay informed and involved, particularly in recognizing policies that infringe upon voting fair play and exacerbate governmental overreach. Discover how you can engage in the conversation for a balanced political approach.
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It's the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water, what it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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Under this guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it's actually tapping down the truth.
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Today's current opinions and ideas.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And boy, it's starting to feel like spring. I hear the birds singing and the trees are budding. Spring is trying to spring or sprung. But I think there might be some snow later on in the week. So it's Rocky Mountains. God, I hope not. Well, we'll see. Because you know what? They can't tell us for sure what the weather is going to be like tomorrow. How do they think they are going to tell us what the temperature is going to be like in 100 years, right?
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That's a good question. Climate change.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we'll continue on here. We've got so much for you today. Be sure and check out my website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. While you're there, sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. That way you'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And Alan Thomas has a great essay that we published on Sunday, the, let's see, The Malfeasance of the Left. I think it's The Wonderful Malfeasance of the Left. You will want to check that out. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. And I always do like to hear from you on that as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station. searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, childhoods, or lives via force. and force can be a weapon but it can be policy unpredictable and excessive taxation fear coercion government-induced inflation the agenda by the world economic forum and the globalist elites played out through the united nations this legislature is so radical activists left as well as this governor here in colorado jared polis but you can see this assault upon property rights Via land use code, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. We're going to be talking with Virginia Maka, who founded Stand for the Land Kansas, as our featured guest in this hour. And she's going to give us an update on these land grabs and what is happening. People are stepping forward now. to push back on that. Remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. The show comes to you on all KLZ 560 platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM. The website and the app comes in loud and clear on Alexa. And the show podcasts are posted to Spotify and iTunes. So you can catch all of that. Let's see, did want to mention, I guess we're down to the, is it the final four? Where are we at exactly on March Madness? I know all the games were on yesterday, and I think that's where we are. Obviously, I was not partaking and watching all of them because I just got busy with all the other stuff that we needed to do. But a great place to watch the games. Baseball season is opening up is Hooters Restaurants. And Hooters Restaurants has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together to watch the games with friends. And wonderful lunch specials for both Monday through Friday and also for happy hour. Also, thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. and we really do appreciate it and again we are an independent voice on an independent station so we're not paid and bought by anybody and uh let's see here we just are all of you we are just grassroots coloradans who care deeply about what's happening on the show Somebody asked me, Kim, what do you focus on? And we certainly focus on this great American idea that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And how does that play out? Well, first of all, elections are very important. And as you all know, we founded the Colorado 2024 Election Project, We have our two lawsuits in place, and we're morphing this into Reclaim Colorado 2025-2026 because we've got much work to do here, my friends. So we're going to focus on elections because if we don't have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, we don't have anything. And we're seeing that play out today in Wisconsin. I know Peter Berninger is working diligently with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice regarding this Supreme Court election in Wisconsin. If the radical activist leftist wins, she will use her power to redistrict Wisconsin that will ultimately affect congressional seats. So this is really, really huge. And so stay tuned on that. But we're working diligently. On these elections, Colorado is the petri dish for all of the stuff that they are trying to do throughout the country. I'm going to be writing a book about that, so stay tuned on that because we need to know what's going on so that we can change it. But also climate change. Be sure and check out the documentary I'm involved in, and that is aclimateconversation.com. You can watch that for free. It's been on Newsmax a number of times. It is the project of Walt Johnson, and he wanted to just have a conversation about all of this stuff regarding climate, and so brought in scientists and experts to talk about that. And I think he might want to do a sequel, so stay tuned on that as well. But that's at climateconversation.com. So we focus on elections, climate change, our children, We have a duty to protect our children and obviously property rights. Property rights are inherent within the American idea. Our word of the day is presage. It's spelled P-R-E-S-A-G-E. First definition could be an indication or warning of a future occurrence, an omen. Number two, a feeling or intuition of what is going to occur, a presentiment. Or number three, it could be a prophetic significance or meaning. So presage. That's our word of the day. Your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. And... Let me think about, let's see, feeling or intuition is what is going to occur. If we do not get our elections under control so that we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, then we are going to continue down the road towards socialism and communism. Make no mistake, even though there are those that are saying that the Democrat Party is in disarray, and it is, they are not going to give up. The radical activists are not going to give up. And they realize that if they can take the congressional seats, the senatorial seats in 2026, that they can basically... thwart anything that Donald Trump is trying to accomplish for our country. Also, these local elections, and that would be special district, school district, your city, county, and obviously the state elections are super important as well. And so that's why elections and the integrity of our elections is so important. And so your challenge is to use the word presage in a sentence today. Our quote of the day, I went to Sir Isaac Newton. He was born in 1643. He died in 1727. He was an English polymath, active as a mathematician, physicist, astronomer, alchemist, theologian, and author. He was a key figure in the scientific revolution and the enlightenment that followed. And he said this, if I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants. And we here in America do stand on the shoulders of giants. Our bill of the day is Senate Bill 25-201, and it is to require age checks for online sexual materials. And this particular bill, I found it as I was going through all of the different bills for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And it certainly piqued my interest. It's not one that we chose because it didn't fall within the purveyance of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. However, it piqued my interest, so I decided to do some more research on that. And I find it interesting. curious, I think. Again, Senate Bill 25-201. The prime sponsors are Senator Paul Lundeen, who is the Republican minority leader in the Senate, and then three Democrats, and that's Senator Lindsay Doherty, Representative Megan Lukens, and Representative Mandy Lindsay. And I just think it's curious the way this is set up. So I texted Senator Lundin and said I'd like to talk with him about that. So I want to talk with all of you about this as well. And so we're going to do that here in just a moment. But a couple of things. Didn't want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. And they are going to have their second annual golf tournament out at the Ridge in, I think it's May 15th. You can find the exact date by going to their website. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. They have a limited number of spaces. It's a great golf course to my understanding, a great way to meet some new people, a great way to support the Marine Memorial. More information on that, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then we have wonderful sponsors. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Before we get over to this bill that I want to talk with you about, and then also we want to talk about Cut Engaged Colorado Unions of Taxpayers. This is our new service for all of you. This is from Colorado Politics. And on Saturday, the Colorado Republicans elect former county treasurer with Routt County, Britta Horn, as the state party chair. So we certainly congratulate her. Another thing that I thought was interesting, and this was from, I think it was from Axios, Denver 7, excuse me, and that is the Sundance Film Festival is moving to Boulder, Colorado. And what is interesting, though, is the state, as well as the city of Boulder, have given them incentives to do so. And And so if they want to move to Boulder, that's one thing. But to use taxpayers' money to entice them is not something that I think that we should be doing. I think that we should be lowering taxes across the board for all businesses. Now, it continually will cite that there's additional new business and revenue that comes to the city. But quite frankly, I don't think we should be using tax dollars anymore. to make that happen, lower taxes, lower regulations and rules across the board, so that businesses and festivals come to communities on their own volition instead of because of these gimmies that are given there. But that is big news on that. Oh, the other thing is, is the Colorado Assembly has sent this Senate Bill 003 to the governor, which is the magazine bill, which is one of the most radical Second Amendment bills in the country for the governor to sign. And when I say that Colorado's at the tip of the spear on everything, I'm not kidding. That's why these elections are so important. That's why... Understanding what's going on in Colorado is so important, and that's why we will be connecting those dots for you. So stay tuned on that. So next thing I wanted to just read through this. Okay, so my friends, something doesn't feel right on this. The Senate Bill 25201, and it is, I like the title, concerning requiring certain Internet websites that provide material that is harmful to children to verify the age of individuals who attempt to access such material. Okay, that sounds good, but notice it's only for internet. We're putting these pornographic books into our school libraries without any age verification. So why the internet? So me and my cynical on this, why the internet? Why are these Democrats pushing the pornography into our school libraries But here we have three Democrats, and I think Paul Lundeen, the Republican senator, I think he probably is looking at this as this is a step in the right direction. But something doesn't feel right to me, my friend. So I want to hear from you, 720-605-0647. So anyway, in the bill summary, it says this. It says, on and after July 1, 2026, the bill requires certain Internet websites that knowingly and intentionally publish or distribute material that is harmful to children to, number one, perform one or more reasonable age verification measures to verify the age of the individual. So first thing, they're going to want everybody to verify their age. So that means that people that are over the age of 18 are going to have to verify their age, which that seems a little bit like that might be something they wouldn't want to do. Joe, I can see that you're questioning this kind of like I am. Any comments as I'm running through this so far?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm just wondering why the specific regulation. I also thought about, well, these kids can be 18 to see this kind of material, but they can't drink a beer or own a gun.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's a good point, too. That's a conversation for another day. Good point. So it goes on to say, it says, prevent children from accessing such material. And it says that these, it says a covered platform may not rely solely upon the geographical registration of an Internet protocol address. So that means they're looking at your location. So there's a lot of, I think, Fourth Amendment stuff going on here. and must apply extensive due diligence based on available technology before concluding the individuals not located in Colorado. So there's all of that. So then in the legislative declaration, and they'll go through all these reasons, it says, Getting this, it says, recognizing the widespread availability of online pornographic content and its potential harm to minors, the General Assembly finds it necessary to require the implementation of age verification measures to prevent youth from accessing such material. This declaration affirms the state's commitment to safeguarding children from exposure to explicit content that may negatively impact their development while protecting the rights of individuals 18 years of age or older. says by requiring robust and effective age verification systems for access access to online pornography and requiring a non-identity document-based option this legislation seeks to uphold the well-being of minors while respecting the rights of adults to lawful next page here hold on lawful So then it goes on to say this. The General Assembly also finds that extensive research has demonstrated that exposure to pornography at a young age can contribute to adverse public health outcomes, including increased rates of anxiety, depression, and distorted perceptions of healthy relationships and consent. It goes on to say studies indicate that early and repeated exposure to sexually explicit material is linked to compulsive behaviors, desensitization to violence, and unrealistic expectations about intimacy, which can have long-term consequences on minor viewers' mental and emotional well-being. And then it goes on to say, leading public health organizations emphasize the need for protective measures to prevent premature exposure to pornography, citing its potential to negatively influence adolescent brain development and social behavior. Okay, I agree with all that. Why, why, why do we have in Colorado this movement to make sure that we have pornographic material in our schools? so this goes on though i look at this more and it says a child means an individual under 18 years of age who resides in colorado but yet we've had all of this legislation that says 12 year olds can have an abortion and that they can give permission for uh like psychotropic drugs without their parents knowing so this is not matching up but then it goes on to say that it's focusing on platforms that make revenue off of this. So I'm wondering if that leaves the door open for quote-unquote NGOs to promote this material. And is this also a way to start to control the Internet to some degree? Is this a way to... With online verification, that seems like that's onerous, that an individual would have to provide that. There's things that I'm concerned about. So I like the title. I like some of the whereas. But when you get into the guts of this, I think that there could be some real problems. I'd like to know what you all think about that. This piece, it's Senate Bill 25201. It's nine, it's 10 pages, I guess. Let me know what you think about that. I think we need to have a conversation. And Joe, your comments.
SPEAKER 05 :
It kind of sounds like an information grab, like that AI bill that they're trying to use for wild forest fires seems similar to that, where they're just trying to get every last bit of information out of you that they can.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's what I'm concerned about, because why is it only online? Why are they concerned about the age and everything here, and yet they are just adamant on getting pornographic books into our school libraries?
SPEAKER 05 :
Why are the teachers talking about it with second graders as well?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it just it does not make sense. It does not make sense. So a couple of other things that I wanted to mention and Colorado engaged. We have that up and running. My friends, you need to take advantage of this. We have spent time, money and energy to bring this to fruition. Go to the cut Colorado taxpayer website. That's Colorado taxpayer dot org. And at the top, Click on Cut Engaged and it will bring up the bills that we have selected that you can very easily make your comments known to the sponsors of the bill and then you can add in your senator or your legislator as well. And one that I think that we have four bills that we selected for this week, but one that I think you all should weigh in on is House Bill 25-1244. It's the Welcome, Reception, and Integration Grant Program. And the bill seeks to expand an existing program which awards money to NGOs for assisting migrants with language training, job searches, and navigation. Hold on here. Navigation. of the state's financial assistance programs. And the bill changes requirements for the immigrant to have arrived within the past year, to have arrived within the last three years. You have an opportunity to weigh in on this. Go to CutEngaged. It's super easy. If you have any problems, you can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. We've got Gammy on the line. Gammy, you've got one minute to weigh in on this. I think you're calling on Senate Bill 201. So what's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. I got exactly the same feelings you did about everything when I read it and reread it. And what I don't understand, They just made the case for that 063 library bill in this very messy thing. And the big question is, why aren't you just attacking the materials and removing them? That's what common sense would say. Why do you need to crawl into our underwear, our lives, our way of living, our parents, our rights? Why don't you just stop the materials?
SPEAKER 08 :
from getting to the children rather than trying to create don't look like another registry that all we're going to see if we won't yeah i i don't know already deep messed up and it's messing up on everything boy gimme thank you for calling in on that uh... at the same here and Paul Lundeen, I know that he probably has his name on it because he cares about kids. But these are things that we need our legislators to look at the long-term consequences and what is the underlying thing happening here. And, Gammy, thank you for weighing in on that. I'm like you. I feel danger, danger on this. But, Gammy, the language that they have in this bill... We can use that as we're fighting to protect our children on all of these other things. So, Gammy, thanks for calling in. I really appreciate it. You bet. Okay. And all this happens, all these conversations because of sponsors. And we're in the spring buying and selling season in residential real estate. And if you're going to buy a home, sell a home, or look at a new build, be sure and have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And you talk about a force, though, a force to be reckoned with. is Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. And even though we've not met in person, I feel we're kindred spirits. Virginia Maka, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. How is everybody in Colorado? Well, we're doing our best to fight all the nutso stuff out there, Virginia Maka.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, I'm telling you, Kim, I just listened to your last segment. And unintended consequences. we have so many representatives that are bringing forth bills that by the time that bill is done with the best intentions down the road the unintended consequences are devastating for property owners for taxpayers and even for our children in education so It's been fun watching this last session of the legislature wrap up here in Kansas for the 2025 session.
SPEAKER 08 :
Speaking of that, Virginia, the Kansas Capitol has made the news with that satanic thing, and I've just kind of watched it just from headlines. Any comments on that?
SPEAKER 18 :
I do have some comments. We... our God-fearing people in this state. And there are lines, I believe, that are very clear, crystal clear, that are drawn in the sand. And to let the satanic thing go unanswered or even opposed by our leadership in the House and that variation of timeframes I mean, two to three weeks before anyone made a statement, I think was a true sign that leadership is absent in our capital. This was, there were some people that had to suffer unintended consequences, some young people that were standing up for what's right for this country. And a black mass in your capital, that should have been an immediate response, not a dribble of, well, I'm not sure. Yes, it is free speech. But there are also boundaries of that free speech, I believe, that may have been violated. And it just seemed to be kind of a clown show. you know, when it all came down, and a governor with no backbone.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and we need to engage in this battle of ideas. So I think a response would be that we certainly, from a free speech standpoint, overwhelm the narrative there with the narrative of truth and clarity on these issues. One of the beautiful... things about America is our liberty. But liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. And we are seeing the radical activists, extremists use these great foundational principles against us right now, Virginia. I know.
SPEAKER 18 :
It was, it's, and me and you have often talked about, we are a country of laws, and we follow those laws. And including demonstrating and exercising our right to free speech. And as real followers and law followers, there are a lot of facts that haven't came out about this, but repressing some of those free speech for one side versus the other was, It will come out in the end, you know, all the facts to be known. But it's a stat affair when your state is to this point. And this session was a great demonstration of how freedom is wavering here in Kansas.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's really wavering here in Colorado as well. However, you, I, so many people are getting up every day and engaging in this battle of ideas. And where you really have become an expert, and I think it's almost... You hadn't planned on this. And that was property rights. But property rights are inherent within the American idea. The idea that everyday people could own property, the government would have a limited role, and that we would pay limited taxes. But that otherwise we would have the freedom to exercise the use of our property, both tangible and intangible, to go after our hopes and dreams. And what happens was a great, vibrant middle class. But we see with government, with USAID, the taking, the fleecing, the stealing of our money to be used to push these agendas. While the elites have gotten rich and everybody's gotten poor, that's not okay. So things are changing. But one of the things they've done is take our property. And if you can't use your property, if you're not in charge of your property, then you don't own your property. Hence, Stand for the Land Kansas. So give us a quick rundown on if this is the first time people have heard you. And then you've got some successes that are occurring.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, we do, Kim, and that keeps me going every day. In the last year, we have worked on growing our small groups in 105 counties. And those small groups are turning into 400 and 500 people that are attending public hearings, public meetings, questioning and calling their elected officials for accountability. And that has been a blessing for me to watch. These people never engaged and they're finding their footing and the leaders are rising to the top. So that's a great thing. We have a opportunity here in Kansas, and I've been working on this for the last about 60 days with a group of people. And we have a lawsuit heading for the federal court I believe in Johnson County, and it is in front of a Trump-appointed judge. So what this lawsuit will do, it's a Jackson County property owners have filed a lawsuit. They have a very credible team representing them in this civil action, and it's suing Janet Yellen, the Treasury Secretary of the United States, along with the environmental protection and a list of them over transferable tax credits and the ignoring of the NEPA requirement for any utility job, even economic development jobs that involve land and the environmental impact is being questioned on this solar project. So these three landowners have invested a lot of money in this civil action. So we decided to intercede with this civil case with an amicus brief. If you're unfamiliar about amicus briefs, they are briefs that have been put together by other interested parties that are affected. Solar is a very narrow lane, but we know solar is not the only problem. It's the transmission. It's the eminent domain. It's the environmental impact and changing of land use. It's the impact, the economic impact and changing of a economy of a local community, which impacts small towns, small rural farming towns. So this amicus brief we have worked on and we have the opportunity to demonstrate to the federal judge that this is more than solar. So we traveled to Western Kansas and shot a documentary for Judge Holly Teeter to view so that she can see the devastation of not just the solar and the changing of land use and how everybody has stepped over these environmental impacts. It's the changing of the economy of small rural towns, the impact of them having to submit more testing, environmental testing to the state, not to impact an environmental impact statement but just to remain say their wastewater treatment is picking up environmental entities like you know certain levels of say air quality or water quality they have to pay for that testing taxpayers will have to pay for that testing and that's extra on top of these small rural towns and they don't have the budgets for it so the requirements is really putting a lot of small towns at risk not to be able to meet requirements to maintain their wastewater treatments so virginia just a quick comment i wanted to make here in colorado as many of you know i'm the president of the colorado union of taxpayers it's all volunteer group and so we're watching legislation
SPEAKER 08 :
And we have over 570 bills and resolutions that have been proposed here in Colorado, and we're not done until May 6th. But there is a piece of legislation to fast-track. quote unquote, renewable, the permitting of renewable projects here in Colorado. And you can see they're playing long ball on all this stuff. And with 570 pieces of legislation, it's very difficult for everyday people to really watch what's happening. But I just want to let you know that they're doubling down over here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, please send me that information on that bill. if you really think about the the entire ball of wax for the united states each state will pass legislation that is very similar to other states and kansas is leading in this fast track renewable and the fast track of transmission and working it so that the taxpayers unknowingly are paying for that uh that those projects especially battery storage and they're doing it through tax credits they're doing it through uh taking money from the state general fund and putting it into slush funds that are very hard to track and so yes legislation has been very lackluster this session even giving tax credits to data centers and
SPEAKER 08 :
So you're saying they're trying to get tax credits to data centers? Tax credits to data centers?
SPEAKER 18 :
They have given tax credits. The federal government has actually issued transferable credits. Part of the civil suit, this civil suit that's hitting the federal court, is that these We have never in this country had transferable tax credits. And what those are now, you can transfer those to a third party and liquidate them for cash. And that cash is not taxable as income. Oh, man. Okay. And so you see how big this case is. And that is why we entered into an amicus brief. Because when this judge renders her decision, It could throw the jake break on all of this green energy. It could call into question all these recurring tax credits that are hooked to our land that we don't even know, that are hooked to property that property owners have no idea their land has been entered into these tax credit areas.
SPEAKER 08 :
OK, so. OK, so, Virginia, let's go to break. And then my next question, because I had I had teased the NITC transmission lines and wanted. I just have a question on whether or not that these tax credits, how that affects that. So I'm talking with Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. and doing amazing work. Check out our website, StandForTheLandKansas.com. All these discussions are so important because of all of our great sponsors. And one of those great sponsors is Lorne Levy. So for everything mortgages, you want to be sure that you reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom is something that's a good idea. Excuse me, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the Center for American Values website. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. They are located in Pueblo, Colorado. They've got a great event coming up on, I think it's the 16th of April, and on values presentation by Norma Donlon, who is the gold star wife of Roger Donlon, who recently passed on. He was the first Vietnam veteran veteran to be awarded the Medal of Honor. And so it's going to be a great presentation down at the center in Pueblo. The center is non-political, non-partisan. It is focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Virginia Mock is on the line with me. And check out the website, standforthelandkansas.com. Virginia, a question I wanted to know, you mentioned these transferable tax credits that the entities don't have to pay taxes on. How does that match up with this other discussion we've had in the past regarding NITC, the National Interest Electric Transmission Corridors? How does that match up with that?
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So the NITC has lost a little bit of steam because... funding. These lines, some of these, say the Greenbelt line, that's going to carry the power equal to three nuclear plants. It's astounding. Even when you say that to a professional electrical engineer who has helped me do calculations through this process, he's blown away. Three nuclear plants, the power to be on one line and that's direct current. So the grain belt was part of a Nipsey line. And we have some heroes in Washington. Senator Josh Hawley has been a warrior for us. And now he is calling for the Department of Energy to pull back the $4.9 billion loan for the construction of the grain belt. Now the grain belt has been canceled in Illinois This line is like 700 and some miles between Kansas and Missouri. It cuts our states in half. And so Senator Josh Hawley has called for the pullback of that $4.9 billion in loans to build the Greenbelt. Now, as for the NISI lines, They have pulled down all those niche lines because of the process and the environmental impact statement, the same principle that is being applied in the civil suit in Kansas, because there has been no environmental impact done. So environmental impacts take years to do, especially the amount of area that they're trying to cover. Now you do have one coming up from New Mexico and the South, uh, Southeast quarter, uh, Colorado, but it is slowed down because of the funding. Uh, so that's some good news. I believe you have a Congressman Babart, uh, in that area, Boebert, and she, uh, came to Kansas and she is working with some of our people that are working on the Greenbelt. So that's another plus. she is very aware. And so if we can get the Department of Energy and all of this money that has just been flying in the air for whatever and whoever, it's amazing how this has really kind of slowed the wheels. And counties now are rising up in Kansas asking for help to fight these green energy companies. Things are every day change and they are moving fast. I think this lawsuit will bring it all to a head. This is a lawsuit that could set a precedence across the state and it could head to the Supreme Court, giving Senator Josh Hawley and other people that bring in a little bit more clout than a state alone. They could intercede in this if it heads to the Supreme Court. And this ruling would be something that impacts every state, every county, at least give us some tools to battle back. And as for our President Trump, he has done all he can to call back the money that was left there, but as you would have the other side, has really been working overtime, trying to hide the money from Doge, try to hide the money from the departments through these NGOs. And the NGOs are like a spider web. So that is kind of where we're at. But President Trump is doing small things to bring down, push his executive order authority as far as it can go to at least slow it down if not get rid of the money for one reason or the other. So he has a very difficult, let's say, pathway to navigate. And drill, baby, drill. That's the smart thing to do.
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Well, absolutely. And Virginia, what you are doing with Stand for the Land Kansas and getting this lawsuit filed is really, really important. And so I know that the legal system moves slowly. Any kind of time frames on all of this?
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Yes. The civil suit hits the court in April. We will file our amicus briefs. right before that hearing, so it will be viewed by the judge. We're working on the finals of the production, the documentary, And it'll be a very short five-minute clip, but it's very impactful to get people's stories in front of the judge to show her the harm that it is doing to a lot of citizens and a lot of property owners. And once that video is done, I will share that with you. Okay.
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Will that be at Stanford Land in Kansas as well?
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We hope it will. You know, we hope we can get it online, but we would like the judge to be at first. There may be some legal legality there, but we'll work through that. But I think it's impactful that we all have stories, good, bad, or indifferent. But when it comes to the story of our land, that is our pride, and that is what secures our freedom every day.
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So, Virginia Maka, we've got a minute left. And you never really had thought that this was what you were going to do. You're, I think, an engineer by trade, but you've stepped forward because you realize this is so important for the American idea. Your final thought.
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When you hit a point of life where you're looking at, what am I going to leave behind? What is worth leaving behind? and what is worth taking on. And any time that you can stand up for freedom, I believe that that is not only all of our legacies, but it's what we hand to our children in the generations to come. So it's very important to have a voice. And you, Kim, have been a voice, an outlet for those voices. And we should have more of you. We should have more Kins in this world. That's what I think.
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Virginia Maka, thank you so much. Let's stay in touch. Again, that website is StandForTheLandKansas.com. Keep up the great work. We'll have you back on soon.
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Thank you so much. And everybody in Colorado, you have a great day.
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Western Kansas, I'll see you soon. Love it. And our quote for the end of the show, I thought this was great, by Isaac Newton. He said, "'Tact' is the art of making a point without making an enemy." So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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We sure are. Yeah, I think I read something the other day. This estate farm, we handled 400 hail claims last year all over the U.S. And Colorado is probably at the top of the list between us and Texas, Kansas. Lots of hail. Lots of hail.
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Well, so not just 400 clients.
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What does that mean, 400 different storms? Storms, 400 different storms, reported hail storms. Yeah, and some of them are, you know, gigantic and others are pretty small. So we're talking about all hail.
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Okay. Okay. Well, since Colorado is where we're located and we seem to get these hail storms, Roof, Is there any additional things that people should think about?
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You know, there is something that came out recently that has been problematic in terms of claims over the last, throughout my career. So here's what goes on. Let's say a hailstorm hits your roof. And it damages the south side of the roof. And there's no damage to the north side of the roof. So the adjuster comes out and says, we're going to pay for what was damaged. And so you could have half a roof, basically, which means that if you want to replace a whole roof, you're responsible for the other half on your own, your own dollars. People aren't happy about that because they want everything to match, and I can understand that. So State Farm came out with an endorsement that you could purchase that would actually replace that side of the roof that was not damaged. You have to do that at renewal. You can't do it. So if you renew and... March, you missed it. If you renew in May, I'd put it on, for example, or April. Because hail season usually runs from April through early October. July is probably one of the worst months. So that endorsement is probably maybe $160 a year. You could actually help yourself a lot by having that endorsement on. So we're talking about maybe $15 a month more in your premiums. So if you're ever put in that position, you could have some coverage. An average roof today is probably between 15 and 20, 25,000. And one thing I would caution you, once a hailstorm hits your area, please do not answer the door and talk to an out-of-state adjuster. We have a list of contractors that we have used for years that are reputable, that will take care of you, and they're accountable for to their own ethics, but they're also accountable to us, State Farm Roger Mangan. If we recommended one, two or three roofers and you choose one of those three and you have a problem with them and they're not responding, you can always call our office and we will then call them to take care of any issues that are outstanding. Give you a quick example. I had insured that, got a check from State Farm on a hail loss up in Arvada, and the adjuster missed a lot, okay? And by the way, these adjusters, when a catastrophic loss occurs, that's 500 claims or more, defined as 500 claims or more, then you get an adjuster from out of state, they come in and they adjust. A lot of them won't even go on the roof anymore, they'll use a drone, or they'll use some other a visual inspection, and they'll miss things. Well, in this case, it was about $5,000 of items missed in this claim. The insured called me and said, hey, how come they didn't have this or this or that in the estimate? I said, well, let me give them a call, find out what's going on. We did and sent another adjuster on a re-inspection, and the insured ended up with about $4,000 more on the claim. So those adjusters, by the way, are on rotation, 90-day rotation when they come in. So at the end of 90 days, the adjuster you had, they're gone. So State Farm is very good at keeping good notes. And again, it is troublesome. I mean, we even have a challenge as an agency getting our adjusters to have a conversation with us about details. So I can't imagine if you had a company that didn't have an agent, you're out there on your own. So I would advocate a direct writer. to have your insurance with. Could be State Farm, Farmers, American Family. They're all out there and they're all good. Your insurance really is as good as your agent. Let me put it that way.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I'm really pleased to have on the line with me. She was on the show a few weeks ago. And that is Savannah Crossfield. And she is a documentary maker, filmmaker. She's with Lucidity Pictures. And she has a documentary, Cradled in Glass. That is their project. And very important regarding IVF, in vitro fertilization. Savannah Crossfield, welcome to the show. Thank you. Good to be here. So Savannah, I wanted to get into more in-depth questions regarding IVF, in vitro fertilization. I've looked at it or heard about it. I thought, oh my gosh, what a miracle. People that I know that have wanted to be parents have used IVF successfully and have children that they love and they cherish. And I love that. But there's other things to consider, yes? Yes, definitely. So let's talk about that. Okay. So where should we start on this?
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Okay. So I think that when most people, of course, like you said, hear about in vitro fertilization, if they haven't themselves walked through it and had to research it themselves, think of it, like you said, as this miracle solution to infertility, this way that parents or intended parents, people who want to be parents, who have infertility can have children. And of course, we all love children, whether you're pro-life, pro-choice, from any culture, you love children and you want parents who desperately want children to be able to have that dream. But the issue that we see and that we want to look into in this series is that there is such a high risk to each individual human life that is created through IVF that we need to look more into whether or not the risk to human life is worth the few that make it through the entire process. And so the statistic that you can look to is that seven to eight percent of those created through IVF are born alive. And there's a number of factors that go into that. But at base, you can look at that a petri dish, which is where these very small human lives, these little embryos, are created in and grown out to for about six to eight days before, if they're intended to be implanted, then they would be implanted into the mother. But during that six to eight day period, there's a very high level of embryo attrition, which means that The number of embryos that don't make it through all of that growth to the sixth day is incredibly high. We see it to be around about half, but it depends on a lot of different factors, including the age of the mother or egg donor, whoever that the eggs are from. Also, the quality of the sperm and a couple of different factors. that risk is always very significant regardless of the quality of the eggs and the quality of sperm. And so that goes mainly into the reason why we have such low birth rates from embryos created through IVF. But a couple of other things that we look at are sex selection and genetic screening. And so if parents opt in to do genetic screening on their embryos, they're told that that would increase the success rate of a pregnancy because you're looking at each embryo and testing its quality, quote, unquote, viability, and you're looking at whether a given embryo potentially has Down syndrome or Turner syndrome or... some other kind of genetically related genetic disorder that could be passed down from the parents. And you can also, when you do genetic screening, see the chromosomes and you can tell whether an embryo is a male or female. And so parents can also be given the option of choosing whether or not they want to implant a female embryo or a male embryo. And so this obviously decreases birth rates because you are discarding embryos that are not chosen to be implanted. And then when you look at the rates of embryos that survive implementation, that's also around about 35%, depending on health of the mother, health of the embryo, many factors. But that is the highest that we have seen it, 35 to 40%. And so that also decreases that success rate. And so we are looking at the number of surplus embryos, is what they're called, when you have embryos that you don't implant right away. You implant about one or two embryos nowadays. And if you have extra embryos that you aren't implanting in that cycle in this Petri dish at their sixth to eighth day, then you would be freezing those embryos if you wanted to save them for successive pregnancies, or if you wanted to put them up for adoption, there's embryo donation, that's what it is called, that other families could adopt those embryos and then try to have those embryos and have pregnancy and try to implant them. Or you could also donate your remaining embryos to scientific research. And that is where you're getting stem cell research, other gene disease modeling, things like that, that we're doing in research labs. So yeah, obviously lots of different ethical questions of where all of these different embryos are going and if they're surviving the process at all.
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So Savannah Crossfield with Lucidity Pictures, what happens in the petri dish with the sperm and the egg, that is happening in the petri dish, which is what would normally happen during human intercourse, sexual intercourse, yes? Or right after, yeah. Okay, okay. And then the six to eight days, we'll see, I guess is the correct term, whether or not it would take intercourse. Savannah, why are you interested in this? Why does this matter to you?
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Sure. So I have been interested in issues, pro-life issues regarding those who have not been born for a very long time. And I only knew about the abortion issue, of course. Most people do. And so I had been looking into that, researching that, and that had been the thing that I was trying to help with the pain. And then I got married at 19, got married young, and then immediately after got pregnant with my son. And so I am fertile and fertile. I have not in any way had to use IVF, thankfully. And when I had my son, I had a perfectly healthy, natural pregnancy. And at birth, everything went well. And then I saw after I had him on social media somewhere that there is a statistic, and I verified it and we have it as part of our series, that there are 1.5 million at least frozen embryos in the United States. And I did not realize why they were there, why they were frozen, if they were up for adoption or if they were abandoned or what was happening or how they even got there in the first place. I felt that I needed to do something about the number of embryos that I believe in science shows are very, very early, very young humans that, you know, why this is the case. And so at first I looked into embryo adoption and to build our family that way. And so I wanted to do that. And then as I was trying to look into that process, I got pregnant with my daughter, naturally. And so, of course, obviously I couldn't adopt an embryo because my uterus was occupied. You were busy. Right, exactly. So I was thinking, okay, well, next baby, our third baby, will be an adopted embryo. And then I had my daughter prematurely, and we had an emergency C-section, and it was a rather traumatic birth. And so I'm now no longer a good candidate to do that very high risk. And IVF is just going to put pregnancies at a higher risk statistically in general. So not a good candidate for that anymore. But my background is in filmmaking and broadcast journalism. And I felt that there just wasn't anything for the public out there, for the lay person in the movie or documentary or film space that people could consume and truly understand this really important topic. And of course, it's in such a critical time for us to understand what goes on in IVF, how many embryos are frozen out there, what can we do, what should we be looking at as alternative methods to handle infertility and different treatments that make us healthier and allow us to naturally conceive. And it's such a critical time because Of course, this past presidential debate in the presidential election, the issue of IVF was brought up, and it was the very first time that we were talking about it as its national issue. And then, of course, a few weeks ago, a month or so, President Trump signed an executive order looking to get policy recommendations on how to make IVF more accessible and affordable for Americans when most Americans don't really know the science of IVF and what we need to be considering and what issues will increase necessarily if we're increasing the number of IVF procedures we're doing in this country. So, yeah, very important.
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Yeah, okay. So, again, I have friends that have used IVF. They have children. They wanted children. They love their children. And I see that blessing. I have to say the title of your documentary, Cradled in Glass. I was at church the other day, and there's children everywhere and pregnant moms. And I love that. And I... I do think about little ones that are frozen, that are cradled in glass someplace. And it does stop me in my tracks. And then this idea of selection. of genetic selection, sex selection, that can start to be a really dark road to go down. You can see some positives, but that could be a very dark road to go down. For example, Down syndrome kids. I know that Down kids, there's certainly challenges there. with that, but they're also beautifully, wonderfully made and precious. And so the idea to select to not have, and I guess that happens through abortion as well. Gosh, these are ethical questions that get you at the gut, I think, Savannah.
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Yeah. And the other thing is, like we said, in most cases, In IVF cycles, and of course, there can be exceptions, and when there are, that is amazing and beautiful. But in most cases, there are embryos that were created that did not make it in a given cycle. So you're looking at these beautiful children, and every single life is as valuable as another. And that is exactly why we're looking into this, because they probably had siblings that didn't make it. The wording in the IVF history or in these fertility clinics, when the doctors are talking to these couples that have been hurting and really psychologically have been struggling with the fact that they have had trouble naturally conceiving a child because they want one, and the language that is used to describe the processes to these parents is either scientifically iffy, not entirely scientifically accurate all the time. And then also can be very confusing. It's kind of like in the abortion industry when a doctor would tell you this is fetal tissue or just cells or tissue here and there, or using the word fetus or embryo. These terms can be very confusing to parents and they might not fully realize what is happening during these cycles. And ASRM, the American Society of Reproductive Medicine, which is the key board in this issue, has published information explaining that there are so many parents who have frozen embryos, have more than they intended to have in their family. They feel that they have finished building their family. They don't want any more children to raise. But they feel this ethical imbalance this ethical struggle, this dilemma on what to do with their embryos that they still have remainingly frozen, and often they feel that these are their frozen children, and they don't want to put them up for adoption because they don't like the idea of another family raising their children, and they don't want to discard them because they don't want to discard their children, but they also don't want to have them themselves, and that is one of the reasons why we have just so many frozen embryos in the u.s right now that will continue to be on ice relatively indefinitely many of them and then eventually they you know won't make it through that um for a number of reasons but that's you know just one of the things that we have to consider is a lot of parents don't really realize what's going on or that they'll have so many left over as a possibility and no one can control what numbers you know you'll end up with if you fertilize as many as possible And then you could be in this problem that we have so many Americans facing right now.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And as you know, I dearly love the USMC Memorial Foundation and all the work that they're doing. It's important to remember and honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for us, for our freedom. And there's a great fun way that you can... Support the foundation, and that is with their second annual Marine Memorial Golf Tournament, May 15th, at The Ridge at Castle Pines North. And you can register by going to their website, usmcmemorialfoundation.org, which you can support the foundation, play a great round of golf. meet some new people, and play a golf course you might not play very often. And so go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org to sign up for that. On the line with me is Savannah Crossfield. She is a filmmaker with Lucidity Pictures. And we're talking about IVF, in vitro fertilization. President Trump... issued an executive order regarding IVF, wanting to make it accessible and affordable. I guess the first question on affordable, does that mean that everybody else will pay for that, Savannah Crossfield?
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Right, exactly. That's something that we need to look at is, of course, when the idea is floated that something will be more affordable, we have to look at how is that going to be the case. And so in this situation, the government is looking into making IVF more affordable through having either subsidies toward that issue, so that'd be taxpayer dollars, or through medical insurance companies and requiring those companies to cover IVF treatments. And so we look at the cost of IVF There's a study from California that shows that the average live birth from IVF costs $61,000. And that is because you're not guaranteed to have a live birth every IVF cycle. And each IVF cycle, you know, tens of thousands of dollars, $10,000, $15,000 around there. And there are a lot of additional added features or services that you might want to have when you do an IVF cycle, such as the genetic testing we talked about or freezing. There's a cost associated, an ongoing cost, with having embryos frozen in cryoscorage. And so the average amount of cycles that a parent goes through to have one live birth is two to three. And so if you want to build your family or multiple children, not just one live birth, you're going to go back to IVF and do more cycles. If you have remaining embryos, then you can thaw some of those and then attempt to implant those at successive cycles. Or you might, if you don't have remaining embryos, you might have to go back and go through the process again with fertilization And if there are issues with the mother's eggs or with the father's sperm, then you may need to get donor eggs and sperm. And if you have an issue with the mother's uterus or her reproductive system in carrying the baby, then she might have to look into a surrogate. And all of those are incredibly expensive. And so what we look at in our series is, is there an alternative for qualifying individuals as a fertility treatment but is number one, a lot more cost effective, a lot less expensive, and then also healthier and doesn't allow, you know, necessitate all these ethical questions because the goal would be natural conception. And so we look at this concept called restorative reproductive medicine. It's a field of medicine that looks to the root of one's infertility, whether that be a female issue or a male issue. And then treating that through various different methods because infertility is, you know, such an incredibly complex issue. So we look at hormones. We'll look at do you have endometriosis or a physical structural issue that we need to correct with surgery? Or is this, you know, a timing issue? We just really need to lock down when your cycle is so that we can time things. intercourse for natural conception there's a lot of things it could be dietary there's just so many things that go into one's fertility that this form of medicine seeks to treat and really when you look at it IVF in vitro fertilization is a workaround to infertility we're not actually treating the root cause of your infertility but instead we are you know creating a embryos outside of the womb and trying to implant them into a woman that might not be healthy. And so if instead we have a policy that supports restorative reproductive medicine and makes that more affordable, also there's a study that shows that with a successful treatment, a successfully treated individual, they can now naturally conceive cost $3,000 to $5,000. And if you want to compare that to one live birth from in vitro fertilization, that was $61,000. So, of course, it would be way more effective as a government policy to support with either taxpayer dollars or with medical insurance dollars, restorative reproductive medicine, over IVF. And I know I mentioned that there are some individuals where, of course, restorative reproductive medicine will not work. If you've had a hysterectomy, you don't have a uterus, or if there are no sperm in the male's testes, and we can't fix that through surgery, then, of course, restorative reproductive medicine will not work. But in most, the vast majority of individuals, restorative reproductive medicine is a potential option.
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So that is certainly a solution because of these ethical questions. So we as human beings, we can have something that can be very good, but it can also be used in a non-ethical way. And so you mentioned scientific research, right? Right. So the fertilization occurs in a Petri dish. There are six to eight days to see whether or not that fertilization takes.
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It could take immediately. It's just you have to grow the embryo. The embryo is the embryo from the moment of fertilization, which takes less than a nanosecond. But you want to grow the embryo out to what's known as a blastocyst stage, which is six to eight day. It has about 100 cells. And that is when you would either freeze it or try to implant it, or you could do the scientific research at that point. You have to make some decision on what to do with the embryo, because the embryo can't survive in the dish for all that long. So, yes. Okay, got it.
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Thank you for the clarification on that. So people could determine whether or not they want a boy or a girl. They could... in some fertility clinics not all do it but most most do okay do genetic screening to determine if there might be some challenges with the embryo but you also mentioned scientific research now they're not going to just do scientific research on an embryo so in essence or i don't think they would you're i'm going to ask you the question So does that mean that that embryo would be planted? Would they ultimately be growing humans for scientific research?
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Right. So we want to look into this. So an embryo at the sixth to eighth day, which is the blastocyst stage, we've got about 100 cells in this embryo. Let's say they're donated to scientific research. And so a research lab would do a number of things with that embryo, one of which, one of the most common things that an embryo donated to scientific research could have done is taking the stem cells, the embryonic stem cells, out of this embryo, growing them out in petri dishes in their differentiated cell types. I want to stress that an embryo is an incredibly complex organism, human organism, and it has differentiated cell types. Stem cells, embryonic stem cells, are just the precursor cells to those that would develop into adult cells. And so we see all that differentiation and complexity in these embryos. And so you would grow out the differentiated cell types, so it's neurological cells, muscle cells, etc., And then you can use those cells to do disease modeling, try to develop vaccines. There's a number of different things you can try to do with those. But the key thing that I want to stress is that we have not been able to, we go into it the series, but we'll go too, too much into the complex science here. but we have not been able to make any medical advancements with embryonic stem cells. We have with adult stem cells, but not with embryonic stem cells. And there's a number of reasons for that, one of which is that they're incredibly chaotic and don't really merge very well with adult cells. And we can't control them and we can't reproduce them as easily, but regardless. When you take embryonic stem cells out of an embryo, it necessarily kills the embryo. And so you can grow out these stem cells, multiply them for decades, theoretically. And they've done this with, you know, aborted babies' cells as well. He's growing them out, and those are called cell lines. And it's the face of aborted fetuses. That would be fetal cell lines. you can use those cell lines to get vaccines and do other research with those. And so that's, yeah, one of the main things that we're looking at. But then there's also a lot of cutting edge technology, such as CRISPR and germline editing, which is taking the genes in these cells from embryonic cells that are either donated or there are embryos that are created in labs through donor gametes for the purposes of scientific experimentation. They will never be adopted. They will never be gestated. And so in either way that you procure those embryos, you can take those cells and then you edit some genes to CRISPR. And they've tried to be doing this to create ways that you can potentially cure cancer, all of these different genetic issues they want to be able to fix, of course. In order to try to make medical advancements, you need to do research, and that is where the justification for this research on human embryos comes into play. Yeah, please go.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Check out the Center for American Values. That website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. The center is located in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there were four living Medal of Honor recipients that lived at the same time there. The center is co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient, for actions he took during the Vietnam War and Brad Padula. an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker, and they're doing all kinds of great things. There will be a wonderful On Values event on the 16th of April. Check all that out at AmericanValuesCenter.org. The center is nonpartisan, nonpolitical, focusing on these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Talking with Savannah Crossfield. If you have a question for her, 303-477-5600. The text line is 720-605-0647. And Savannah, this in vitro fertilization, IVF, it is a miracle. It certainly has been used for families that have wanted children and could not have children. It's been that blessing. But there's this other side, these ethical questions. And so I think the overriding question is, we as humans, how do we answer this ethical question? Now, I know that having them frozen and using them for scientific research, there will be those that say, well, these embryos don't have a heartbeat, so they're not a human yet. What would you say to that, Savannah Crossfield?
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Right, of course. I would say that there has been Science has shown since the beginning of embryology since we've been able to study life and this very then the very beginning stages, we have proven that an embryo is a genetically unique.
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organism of course the human organism so so question just a quick question every one of those embryos same sperm same egg is and i think i know the answer i know this is set up but i think it's important to to confirm that but each of them are genetically different yes and just as because they are siblings are genetically different even though they have the same genetic parents
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And so, like I also talked about, embryos are incredibly complex. They're not just a cluster of basic, simple cells. They're dividing at an incredible rate and differentiating their different cell types, cells like neurologically embryonic precursor cells, embryonic cells, and skin cells, and all these different types. And the other thing that is important to note is that every single adult or baby that's been born, et cetera, all of them were once an embryo. And it's simply, and scientific textbooks will explain this, and if you pull, there's a poll that pulled scientists all around the world from different cultures, ideologies, religions, et cetera, and 95% of them agree that A human life starts at the moment of conception or the moment of fertilization, which is less than a nanosecond long, an instant. And then from that moment, you have a genetically unique individual human being that is given the right environment, just as you or I are given the right environment to continue to develop and live. These embryos will continue to develop and live And if the odds of their survival are on their side, then they will continue to develop and then eventually become an adult, just as any other individual on their given stage of development would. And so that is one of the key reasons that we actually look into the ethics of in vitro fertilization. If each embryo or just a sperm or an egg not just a cell, not a genetically unique individual, just cells of the mom, cells of the dad, then we would not be looking into the ethics of this procedure because we wouldn't be talking about individual human blood.
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So is the answer that we stop IVF?
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Well, so our series seeks just to talk about all of the ethical issues that we need to, as a society, look at since we are doing all of these to, of course, non-consenting, individual, unique humans. But I think that because we cannot separate the extreme risk of loss of life to each individual human life and each individual embryo then it's incredibly difficult, especially in the US with the lack of regulation we have on the number of embryos that you can create any given IVF cycle. Other countries have plenty of regulations. In France, you can make very few. But in the US, you can make as many as biologically possible, as many eggs that will fertilize that you have. And that just means that we're going to have an incredibly high loss of life, high embryo attrition rates. And it's really, really important to consider as a personal choice for parents who are in the situation where they're considering IVF. Much better, of course, to be informed rather than to go into it blind. And that's what we really want to address is being informed as parents make these decisions for your children for the next generation.
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Boy, that is so important. And Savannah Crossfield, first of all, you can find this cradled in glass at luciditypictures.com. And, of course, going to Psalm 139, 1318, for you created my inmost being. You knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully. and wonderfully made. I think that is so important that each human being understand that they are unique, they are precious, they're treasured, and they are wonderfully and fearfully made. Your final thoughts, Savannah, we've got a minute.
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Yeah, so I think that We would definitely appreciate anyone who is interested in learning more about this topic and to follow what we're doing to go to luciditypictures.com. So that's L-U-C-I-D-I-T-Y pictures.com. We have a blog that comes out with a post every week. about behind the scenes, about production, where we're going when we're traveling across the U.S., and who we're interviewing, and all these different interviews that we're doing with experts in the field, people from all different perspectives, and then, of course, people who themselves have gone through IVF or related issues. And so we would love you to sign up for our email list and to monitor what we're doing and support us. And you can reach out to me with any questions at scrossfields at luciditypictures.com. So that's scrossfields at luciditypictures.com.
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America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson kicks off a special series dedicated to the Vietnam War, exploring profound narratives from those who experienced the historic conflict first-hand. Featuring voices like Colonel Robert Fisher and with insights from Kim's own journey, this episode offers a unique glimpse into the lives of Vietnam veterans who have shaped history through their bravery and sacrifices. The series aims to correct misconceptions, highlight the deep personal tolls of war, and celebrate the resilience of those who fought. Listeners will be immersed in real stories from veterans reflecting on their experiences 50 years later, revealing the complexities and human side of the Vietnam War. Through interviews and personal accounts, the series brings to light invaluable lessons and truths about the conflict. This is more than a history lesson—it's an homage to heroism and a call to preserve the memories of those who shaped our freedom and future.
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Thank you.
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World War Two, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan and her other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's veteran stories with Kim Monson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Monson.
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Welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. Thank you so much for joining us. These shows are so important. This basically precipitated from a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans back to Normandy, France, for the anniversary, the 72nd anniversary of the Allies' D-Day landings. to ultimately free western europe free europe from hitler and his evil regime of nazism and came back realized that each person's each individual story is unique either they might be right next to each other and each story is unique they need to be told so in an in a way this is checking out our ancestry of our country our our history of our country And in studio with me is Paula Sarles. She is a friend. She is also a hero and a patriot. She's a Vietnam-era Marine veteran. Her husband, well, she's a Gold Star wife, so her husband passed on basically from, would you say it's injuries? Agent Orange. Yeah, Agent Orange. And it's on your heart to remodel and refurbish the Marine Memorial out here in Golden, which is the largest one west of the Mississippi, correct?
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It's the only one dedicated by a commandant of the Marine Corps. It is the largest Marine-type memorial west of the Mississippi.
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And you're raising money for this, and we've talked about this. People can buy a brick to honor one of the family member or a loved one or a friend.
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And in any service, there's a walkway for all services, too.
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But now we're doing something really special. We're going to be doing probably five shows regarding the Vietnam veterans that are noted in this book, Echoes of Our War. And what's going to happen with that, Paula?
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Well, the proceeds from this book have been dedicated to half of them to the Memorial Foundation and half of them to the Hyperbaric Chamber. And so what we're doing for this series is whoever donates the most money will get a hardback copy of the book signed by all of the authors plus kim and we just added that one in yeah i just added that in and um That's a collector's item because only 100 of these hardback copies were printed. So it'll be a collector's item, and it's a great gift. So we encourage people to donate at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And note in the donation block, book, so we know that you're participating in this promotion.
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And we need to have these books in our Freedom Library, most important, for sure. So on the line with us is the author, and that is Colonel Robert Fisher, United States Marine Corps, retired. Colonel Fisher, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, Kim. I'm not the author, Kim. I'm the sponsor and supporter of the book. and I'll explain how that happened.
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Okay. Thank you for correcting me. We like to get it right, Colonel Fisher, so you put this thing together. Tell us about it.
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Okay. You know that Brady and I have been on your show before, and we spoke about Cooper's Troopers, which is a group we started. Well, I started with just two members back in 1997 with Ed Cooper, and it turned out to be 165 members. Of that 165 members, half were in Fort Logan, But the 10 veterans who are writing in the book, their chapters are all Cooper's Troopers. And Paula also is a member of this group. It began with, I would say, in February of 2017, I was working on my Kovan book. It's a book about my advisor experience and all. And it dawned on me that I had been on the Ho Chi Minh Trail 50 years earlier, back in that February, and I began to discuss the idea for another book with Dan Benter, who's an exceptional supporter of my book. What I was thinking about is I wanted to write something, and originally I called it Echoes of My War, and there would have been a couple of other veterans from the Coopers in that book at that time. It turns out, in discussing with Dan, and then all of a sudden, Grady, thank God, you know my right arm, my full support, he's got my back all the time. Those two gentlemen, plus Mark Hardcastle, literally were the anchors of the book. They did all the legwork, all the coordination, all the spacing, all the whatever. The whole thing of the book, as the book comes into being, What I contributed was the original title, Echoes of My War, because at that time I had already written three chapters about Vietnam. And I'll just give you a little background briefly. I was in Vietnam. I was in Vietnam and almost all the countries in Southeast Asia from 1961 to 1962. I was captain of the Marines on the 73rd Flagship. My admiral lived there because we had conflicts. We had the emerging wars of liberation supported by the Chinese and Russians. And I got first-hand looks by going into ports of Saigon in Thailand and you name it in the Southeast Asian countries, wherever there's a port. So the thought came to me, why don't I write a book about that? And those three chapters were the beginnings, starting with that time of 6162. As it evolved, it began to dawn on me that whoops, I've got six veterans now, now I've got seven. And all of a sudden I have ten, and it became obvious to me that it was their book, and we changed the title to Echoes of Our War, and I became the advocate and sponsor for the book.
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Wow.
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So how did you then start? So you now have 10 veterans, and actually I highly recommend that people get the book because each of these stories is so important. So did you reach out and interview each of them, or how did you come up with these chapters?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, the chapters had begun where I'd ask Dan Gunther, Brady, and – Who else did I get in? Mark Hardcastle. Oh, no, Mark was the editor. Mark is an exceptional editor. I don't know if anyone knows what background. Mark's part of our Colorado Publishers, Independent Publishers Group also. And I just want to say kudos to him because he is a superb editor, a taskmaster. He's the content guy. He's an airline pilot, veteran editor. musical conductor, and he's the author of Symphony of Your Life, Restoring Harmony in Your Life, a phenomenal book. Grady, as you know, was with me on Miracle Workers, and he's the integrator, ombudsman, you name it. Got my back. And Dan, who is from the Iowa Workshop, of all things, he's the author of China Wind, Dog City Blues. They were the crutch that I had to use to get those 10 veterans to In the beginning, I only had three or four when I called it Echoes of My War. It was Grady and Dan who reached out and became the coordinators and the pacemakers for the rest of the book and the other authors that were in there.
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As I look at the book, Colonel Fisher, I'm also one of those that goes to the pictures first. I guess I shouldn't admit that. But the pictures are all powerful here as well. And it is a beautiful, beautiful book. I'm so excited that we're doing this series as well as this very, very cool promotion on this. So let's talk about, you said that you were in Vietnam 1961, 1962, right? And things were happening. Things were heating up. What should our listeners know about the very beginning of this war?
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Well, I'm glad you asked that question. Actually, I was the captain of Marines aboard the 7th Fleet flagship. And my Admiral, Griffin, made sure he was in Southeast Asia because it was a hot spot. I had the opportunity at that time to go ashore in Malaya. and study the emergency in its last year. They had a 12-year fight against the communist terrorists there. The Philippines had their own war of liberation, communist-inspired. Vietnam already had the dead teachers and the North Vietnamese cadres there in 62 when we pulled the ship into Saigon. And then you had Thailand, the 1962 intervention with the Pathlet Lao supported by North Vietnam's Ho Chi Minh and Jop had the Pathlet Lao encroachment into northeast thailand which is very fertile mekong river country and it was jfk right at the same time as he was taking crewshed on in 1962 who ordered the marine brigade off okinawa to counter that and my future boss general simpson was the brigade commander who went into thailand and i was i was in the port watching offloading of this marine brigade and they immediately went up to the border and the path that Lao ran for, like the college they were, and never came back again. That was attributed to JFK. Few people would know that happened. Now, the other side of it is, we were there because of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization that we were charter members of. Many people forget that we went into Vietnam and South Korea in those wars because we had treaties, Asian protective treaties. And that's why my 10 veterans can... hold their heads high today, but as volunteer young Marines, we went to war. We were ordered to war to help an ally.
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Okay, Colonel Fisher, and at the end of this series, we're going to really delve into your story. But I think this is important to understand that coming out of World War II, there was this concern about the spread of communism. And so is that where the Southeast Asia treaties, is that where that precipitated from?
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Absolutely. The Southeast Asia Treaty Organization came into being right after the North Vietnamese had defeated the French. One of the major land armies in the world was defeated in 1954 at Dien Bien Phu, and that's when France lost its colonies and exited Southeast Asia, the Indo-Chinese colonies. Now, that's amazing because I would hope to cover at some time one of the most amazing Marines that I had met in 1962 on the flagship, Colonel Victor Coyzaf, He was our alpha and omega of the whole 14 years' involvement in Vietnam. And I'm writing about that in my Sovan book that I'm rewriting about. What was going on in Southeast Asia at that time is we had a military advisory group in Saigon. General O'Daniel's victor was in the mag, and he was also the interpreter for Polizium. He had been to the Côte d'Ivoire in France, where Napoleon actually went to school, and Wittner was sent to Vietnam to not only monitor the partitioning of the two Vietnams in 1954, where one million refugees were allowed to leave the North because they were Catholic and Buddhist, and very few went from the South back to the North. Wittner orchestrated the entire move because he was a veteran of five amphibious landings in World War II. And he knew naval maritime shipping. He got with the French, and they pulled half a million of those refugees came out on ships that Victor coordinated and put to the south. One of those units that came out at that time were the famous dinosaurs, who Bernard Fall called the most famous and most successful fighting force in the Vietnam War. And those were the Catholic and Buddhist dinosaurs. who Victor spotted as the first Vietnamese Marine battalion, pulled himself to the trunk and set up the first Vietnamese Marine battalion, and I became a Vietnamese Marine advisor many years later. And he was the first advisor. So I saw all that happen, too, in those days. But I wasn't there in 54. Victor was.
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Oh, my gosh, that is very fascinating, Colonel Fisher. We're going to go to break. We are setting this whole series up, Echoes of Our War, Vietnam Veterans Reflect 50 Years Later. And Colonel Fisher is really the guy that kind of pulled this whole thing together. Paula Sarles is in studio with me, and we've got a really special offering going on. So stay tuned. We'll be right back with Colonel Bob Fisher and Paula Sarles.
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Welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson, and be sure and check out my website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. We are creating an amazing series, and it is Echoes of Our War, Vietnam Veterans Reflect 50 Years Later. The coordinator, the guy that really put this together, is Colonel Robert Fisher, Colonel Bob Fisher, retired United States Marine Corps. And in studio with me is Paula Sarles. She is a Vietnam-era veteran. Marine veteran as well as a Gold Star wife. And as we're going through this first segment here with Colonel Fisher, we're going to actually do at least another interview at the end of this. It's going to be a four- or five-week series. I can't wait. I'm on the edge of my chair right now.
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I do.
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But a friend of mine, Helen Raleigh, has really recommended that we have freedom libraries. I love books. I love to hold them in my hand. With what's happening in America today, I think it's more important than ever. And this Echoes of Our War, we're doing something very special on this, Paula.
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Yes, we are. Whoever donates the most money during this series of shows will receive a signed hard copy collector's copy of the book. And it'll be signed by all the authors. And how can people? And they can donate at usmcmemorialfoundation.org and put in the notations book so we know you're participating in this promo.
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And Colonel Fisher is the one that, you write a number of different books, Colonel Fisher, correct?
SPEAKER 12 :
That was my seventh book.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. I think that actually in your Freedom Library, you need all of these different books. But Colonel Fisher, what you were talking about, we only have really gotten to 1961-62 when you were over in Southeast Asia. But as you were talking about this, I don't know. I don't know about all of this, but you mentioned something about the dead teachers. What was that exactly?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, the armed forces, Stars and Stripes, and the military police, publication of the time when we pulled into Saigon. Actually, St. Paul had to be beached, the bow had to be beached on the Longtao-Sairoff rivers to get it up into Saigon. And at that time, there was no MAG. I'm sorry, there was a MAG at that time, military advisory group. In that starting strike, they had an article that I cut out called The Dead Teachers, and it was where since 1950... Joseph Stalin called a meeting of Mao Zedong, who had been just one year as the new premier of China, and Ho Chi Minh, who planned not only what was happening in the Korean War, but what was going to happen in South Vietnam in the Vietnam War. And that included the Vietnam War. So the origins go way back of how all this began. Our book then details much of that leading up to how we did get in the war. and why we got into the war. And then my biggest point I'm trying to make in the book is the lessons of the war. That would be an entire interview in itself. We didn't learn any lessons. We were totally untrained for the war. I wrote an article to the Marine Corps Gazette called The Forgotten Subject in 1962 and had it shoved back down my throat by the editor, who told me I was walking off base when I said Marines were totally untrained to go into the emerging guerrilla wars that were coming. The dead teachers were the cadres sent by Ho Chi Minh and Mao Zedong and Jopp into the villages, and they were massacring village chiefs, and they were taking over whole segments of the population. Now, here I go again. It was a people's war written by Mao Zedong and General Jopp, and you could buy those books written by them in the Hong Kong and Taiwan libraries. Nobody read those books. in the earliest days. I did. And I also got the Moya Dungle School syllabus. So I knew more about the war than anybody out there at the time, I think. And I tried to write the article in the Marine Corps Gazette. That's what provoked me to get ECHOS, because ECHOS is to try to show the lessons and the false presentation of so many that have interpreted the Vietnam War wrong.
SPEAKER 08 :
Colonel Fisher, I remember in one of the interviews that you and I have done together that you had mentioned you were one of the first guys out there that realized that we were going to be looking at a different kind of warfare, guerrilla warfare. And as you mentioned, we were unprepared. That's why this book that you've put together. Echoes of Our War is so important so that people can understand what happened. I really think I actually had been talking to a young college student that was talking about the Vietnam War, and I just knew enough to know that she is being told just a few pieces of truth and then a lot of propaganda. So as I'm reflecting on this, this book is becoming even more important in my mind, just as we're talking about it in this initial interview. Colonel Fisher, we've got about four minutes left. So where would you like to go in this last three to four minutes?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, there's some truth telling. The reason I supported this book so much and what Grady and the rest of us put together is we began to see the truth telling that was coming out that the people have not known for 50 years. For example, the hypocrisy of Walter Cronkite is a whole story in itself. He gave one speech in Saigon a week after, in which he stated unequivocally, and Victor Croizat heard this speech, was there at the time, in the night, America just won this war. The Gek Kong were 80% decimated. Two weeks later, after Fonda and Kerry got a hold of him and the anti-war types back in the States, it was the famous speech, we've just lost the war, and LBJ quit because of that. We're correcting a lot of this falsity that went in in the earlier days. The Ken Burns documentary has a brilliant part on the French brutality and the colonialism, but it goes off into liberal interpretation of our war. The war is a different war, a completely different war than people understand. That's why we did the book.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it is so important, and we definitely have a whole bunch more of information to talk about on this. This book, Echoes of Our War, Vietnam Veterans Reflect 50 Years Later. We're going to be talking with Grady Birdsong in this next segment. And quickly, you, Colonel Fisher, and Grady Birdsong, have done something very important to try to help our young guys coming back from the Middle East with this hyperbolic chamber. You've had some great success regarding treating PTSD. Tell us quickly about that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, our book, Miracle Work of the South Boulder Road, tells how Grady and I became involved back in 2010 as veteran advocates for that clinic. When we saw the miracles being worked, we brought the basket case kids in IED damaged, brain damaged, PTSD, and we put together the only integrated PTSD PBI program in the world, and that's supported by the Israelis. It's an integrated 40-day program, and you know we've successfully, Paula, put out 450 successful recoveries in there, and three are in med school today. They were basket cases when we got them.
SPEAKER 08 :
I tell you what, that is amazing. And that's the Miracle Workers of South Boulder Road.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's on Amazon.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. We're going to go to break here in just a minute. And I'll be talking with Grady Birdsong in segments three and four. This is a series that we will be doing. regarding this echoes of our war, Vietnam veterans reflect 50 years later. It is time to set the record straight. Paula Sarles, for so many years, our Vietnam veterans came back. They served valiantly, came back to a country. I think Colonel Fisher just mentioned, you mentioned it was Jane Fonda and you said Kerry. Was that John Kerry that you were referring to?
SPEAKER 12 :
Many people do not know that in the Hall of Honor in Hanoi today, There is in the center of the Hall of Heroes and the Hall of Honor that the North Vietnamese pay tribute to are the photos of Jane Fonda and John Kerry right in the center of the Hall of Heroes, the North Vietnamese Hall of Heroes.
SPEAKER 08 :
And now that guy is in charge of climate change here in America. Astounding to me. We're going to go to break. Before we do that, though, to tell these stories, I have many great sponsors. And one of my great sponsors is on the line with me. And that is Hal Van Herke. He is the owner of Castlegate Knife and Tool. It's a family-owned business. located right here in Sedalia, Colorado. And Hal, I so appreciate you. You keep our independent voice live and out there and also these stories of these veterans. And you are a valued partner of both of my shows. And Castlegate Knife and Tool has knives from the best blade makers from throughout the world.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, thank you very much, Kim. We're proud to be part of all the work that you do. And we also support our veterans community and first responder community One of the things we do is we provide a 10% discount on everything we sell all day, every day at Castlegate Knife and Tool to veterans, active duty service personnel, and first responders. A couple of the other things that we have going on is that we support directly through financial contributions and participation in the National Honor Tour. And the National Honor Tour is an organization that's designed to make sure that, first and foremost, no service member that's laid to rest has to be... has to go without having taps played at their memorial service. So we make sure that there's a live bugler there for the service, along with a couple of other national organizations. The National Honor Tour is also in the process of going to the gravesite of each Medal of Honor recipient in the United States and playing taps and recording that next to their gravesite. And coming up on Memorial Day weekend at Fort Logan Cemetery in Colorado, We're having a second annual event that we will play taps live at the gravesite if anybody buried there, including spouses, et cetera. And all you have to do is go to the National Honor Tour Facebook page and mention the name of who you would like to have played for on Memorial Day. We do it over a three-day period, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Last year we played taps over 500 times. This year we expect that we will exceed that. And we provide, and again, Castle Gate Nightly Tour is a very proud sponsor of the National Honor Tour. And I participate personally by assisting in playing taps when necessary.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hal Van Herke, I just got chills just how important this is and honoring those that have put it all on the line and their family members that have put it all on the line to protect our freedoms, to stand against tyranny. And this is a really noble thing that you're doing with the National Honor Tour on this, Hal.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we're very pleased to be part of it and pleased to be part of everything that you do for our veterans community on a regular basis, Kim. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's my honor to get to do this. And the Castlegate Knife and Tool, the website, it has a lot of information there because you have a lot going on. And so you'll have this on your website very soon as well, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. You can learn about the National Honor Tool on our website at castlegate.com. as well as other programs that we support and products that we have in stock at any given time. We have over 3,000 different types of knives in stock. We also do custom-made rifles here in Colorado, and we sell U.S.-made watches and a number of other things that are of interest to our customers.
SPEAKER 08 :
You talk about an entrepreneur. Hal and Linnea Van Herke, you are the American spirit to me. So thank you so much, and I so appreciate your partnership on both the shows. Thank you very much. And we'll be right back with Paula Sarles and Grady Birdsong.
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SPEAKER 09 :
God bless America
SPEAKER 1 :
And that I love you.
SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson. This is such an important show. I'm so excited to have in studio with me Paula Sarles. You know her. She is a Vietnam-era Marine veteran as well as a Gold Star wife doing all this great work on the Marine Memorial out here in Golden, Colorado. Paula, these shows are so rich with content. It's just so fantastic.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, they're very exciting to hear the stories and touching – Too many words to describe them, but I'm very excited to be part of it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and this book, Echoes of Our War, by Colonel Robert Fisher, who we just talked with, has told the stories of several of our Vietnam Marine veterans. And what is so exciting, we mentioned it, is for people during this time, it'll probably be about four or five weeks as we're going through all these stories, the one that contributes the most gets what?
SPEAKER 10 :
They get a signed hardback copy of the book. uh, autographed by all of the authors. And that's a great, um, collector item because there were only a hundred books printed in hardback copy. The rest are paperback.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
And all the proceeds from the sales of these books go to, um, half of the proceeds go to the foundation, the U S Marine Corps Memorial Foundation and, um, The other half goes to the hyperbaric chamber.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which is something that is really near and dear on the hearts of both Colonel Fisher and our next guest, and that is Grady Birdsong. Grady Birdsong, welcome to the show. I feel so connected with you because of Cooper's Troopers, which is this group of Marines that meets on a regular basis up in North Denver. And I consider you my friend, Grady Birdsong.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, thank you very much. Thank you and your audience for having Paula and myself today. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, let's talk about your story. You are one of the stories in this book, Echoes of Our War. And where do you want to start with this, Grady?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, let me start this way. Colonel Fisher, God bless him. Colonel Fisher is an accomplished colonel of Marines. He's a graduate of the United States Naval Academy, class of 1955. And his best friend was my battalion aide. executive officer in vietnam in 1968 and that's how kind of i got connected with him colonel fisher was a covan uh which is in vietnamese that meant he's a friend of trusted friend covan means trusted friend he was an advisor to the vietnamese marine corps in the early days of the war and he shot the azimuth he set the compass course in other words for this book this project, and he kind of asked me to pull it all together, which I did. And all of these men that are in the book, with the exception of one, are Cooper's Troopers members. So I kind of served as the chief editor, and I wrote my chapter, along with the others. Three of us contributed to the editing process. Dan Gunther, he was over in Vietnam at the same time I was. He's an accomplished author himself. He's written a number of books. And he formulated all of the questions that we would answer in this book, which, well, one of them are thoughts and feelings that we have today about the war 50 years afterwards. And so I went through and pulled everything together, did all of the developmental, or most of the developmental and content editing, and helped some of the authors enhance their narratives in their chapters. Some of them didn't need help, some of them did. Mark Hardcastle, a close friend of mine, Air Force Academy graduate combat pilot. He's now a United Airlines pilot and an award-winning author. Asked if he could participate, and he did all the fine-tuning. He knows the English language very well. He knows the finer points of grammar, and so he went through and fine-tuned it after we got it all put together. But our intended audience on this book, Echoes of Our War, are Vietnam veterans, Marines, corpsmen, historians, anybody that's interested in the war and the current-day military. And it's a book about the lessons we learned as kids in a war in a place that nobody had ever heard of. And each of us served different aspects of the theater. Denny Sedlak, the first chapter, he was a corpsman in the grunts. That's what you call the infantry, or Marine Corps calls the infantry. Denny's chapter will sober you up to the realities of the war right off the bat. It's the first chapter. He went right into the fire. He and I participated in the same operation in summer of 68, Operation Ellenbrook, a big operation. And on to the house-to-house fighting in the Tet Offensive of 1968 at Hue City. Bill Purcell and Gary Eichler, they were both involved and put to the test there. And not since Korea or World War II had the Marines been even involved in a house-to-house warfare. It had all been rice paddy, hedgerow, jungle warfare up to that point. And they got thrown into the big battle there at Hue City. They had 10,000 North Vietnamese troops waiting on them. When Bill and Gary walked into it, the first day, January 31st, actually February 1st, Bill, I think, lasted 13, 14 days before he was grievously wounded. And then they sent him back to the States, took him. a long time to recover from his wounds. Gary made it through the battle without any wounds. He was one of the very few. Dan Gunther's chapter, he relates about the Amtraks. Those are the 40-ton behemoths that are designed to land troops shipped ashore or across the wide, deep rivers. Dan came up with some excellent lessons learned in utilizing the Amtraks in that kind of a topographical arena. Bob Averill's chapter, he talks about the Combined Action Program. That's basically the Marine Corps' equivalent of the Peace Corps, but with rifles. What Bob and his men did, they helped develop the community during the day and provided the security at night. He's got a great chapter in there. He talks about some of the Vietnamese that he came to know and worked with there. Master Sergeant John Decker, USMC retired, gives everyone a glimpse of what it was like to stay in the Corps back in the 70s. John not only did two combat tours, but he went on to serve in Italy, took his wife to Italy right after Vietnam, and provided security for some installations over there. And then he went on to do a tour of the drill fields. He became a respected Marine Corps drill instructor. Well, it is the most important job in the Marine Corps. And that drill instructor billet is the actual foundation and formative backbone of the entire organization. Then we go on to Mike Frazier in his chapter. He's one of the grunts who got over there early in Vietnam, and he learned to walk point, and he did it quite well. He became really good at it, but he finally was seriously wounded. Not many people make it. too long walking point and he was evacuated back statesides and he reflects on his his time grady what what is walking point what is that i guess you have to read the book to find out right you walk you they they're the first man down the trail or first man into an unknown territory uh there's there's a lot to it uh you learn to look for booby traps you learn to look for trip wires uh You don't know if you're going to get ambushed. If you walk into a village and all of the little children are quiet, well, you know something's going on. Things like that. It's a dangerous, dangerous, dangerous occupation. And not everybody's cut out for it. Mike was.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tom Jacobs, he, God bless him, he walked Point into a, well, he was in the Point platoon when they walked into a battalion-sized ambush in 67 in the jungle west of Camp Evans up on the DMZ. And he survived that. I think 23 Marines were killed and 105 received real serious wounds there. Tom was wounded three times, he tells about it, and he ended up being evacuated out, and it took him a long time. Tom's a successful businessman now, and got a couple of restaurants here in town, Takabi's, American Indian Cuisine. We love that place.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then finally, Captain at the time, C.R. Cusack, he tells in his chapter what it was like to fly F-4s on support missions for us Marines on the ground. And he got shot down by a machine gun position on Hill 310 west and a little south of Devang. And I found the guy that... I found the story. I found the fellow that wrote the story about the Marines that went up and captured that weapon and put it in the book. Anyway.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, Grady, this particular book, Echoes of Our War, I've been talking with my friend Helen Raleigh, who she immigrated from China. She is a true patriot. She's also an author. But she has really floated this idea initially, and I totally agree with her that each of us needs to start to have the actual copies of books and create our freedom library and our history library. And Echoes of Our War is certainly a good place to start with that. And I would highly recommend that people do that, Grady.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of things that went on. Colonel Fisher will talk about the lessons learned. Well, and that is what is so important. So, Grady, we're going to go to break.
SPEAKER 08 :
And when we come back, we want to hear, start with your story. I have a feeling that maybe one segment is not going to be enough for that as well. Paula Sarles is in studio with me. She is a Vietnam-era Marine veteran and really excited about this book giveaway. Paula? Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
The USMC Memorial Foundation was formed to remodel the Marine Corps Memorial in Golden. And Colonel Fisher has been a part of that memorial for many years. And he has dedicated part of the proceeds of this book to our efforts to remodel the memorial. And the other part goes to the hyperbaric chamber, which we all love.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And while we're doing this series, whoever during this series, and it'll probably be four or five shows for sure, contributes the most, they will get a hard copy, signed copy of the book by all of the people in it. Every one of the authors.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my gosh. How can people contribute? And they can donate by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And when you contribute... Put in the comments book so we know that your contribution goes towards the effort on this project to raise money.
SPEAKER 08 :
Most definitely. So we're going to go to break. Before we do that, though, I have so many great sponsors that I get to work with. And one of those sponsors is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations here in the metro area, Westminster, Aurora, Lone Tree, Loveland, and Colorado Springs. And they have all kinds of different specials, whether or not it's dine-in, to-go, they have party packs, all kinds of great specials. And to get all the details on that, go to my website, kimmonson.com. Click on the Sponsor tab. That'll drop down, and then click on the Hooters icon, and that will bring up all the specials that they have. It is time for us to get together with friends and family and to get together over some of those delicious Hooters wings. It's a great thing to do. We're going to go to break. We'll be right back with Grady Birdsong.
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SPEAKER 09 :
From the mountains to the prairies,
SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson. And be sure and check out my website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. And we are starting a series, a really important series, based on this book by Colonel Robert Fisher, a retired U.S. Marine Corps. It's Echoes of Our War, Vietnam Veterans Reflect 50 Years Later. And Paula Sarles is in studio with me. She is a Vietnam-era Marine veteran as well as a Gold Star wife and is really working hard. diligently to remodel, refurbish the Marine Memorial out here in Golden. And Paula, if people, during this time when we're doing this series, the person that donates the most will actually get what? They get a hardback copy of the book signed by all of the authors. Something to add to your freedom library. And on the line with me is Grady Birdsong. During the last segment, he went through how he worked with Colonel Fisher and the other authors in creating this book. And I have a feeling, Grady, we're not going to have enough time just in this segment. So I think we'll probably record you next week as well. So where do you want to start regarding your experience in Vietnam and what you've contributed to this book?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, okay, let me begin with this. And I speak for a lot of Vietnam veterans. There's not a day that doesn't go by that I don't think back about the time that I spent in Vietnam. I spent 20 months over there, almost two tours, two full tours. And one of the things that comes to mind when I first got there, I was pretty naive, a new troop.
SPEAKER 08 :
How old were you, Grady?
SPEAKER 04 :
I was 20 years old. I had already had two years of college, and I had enlisted in the Marine Corps and then went right over.
SPEAKER 08 :
And what year was that?
SPEAKER 04 :
That was in 1968. When we got there, the Tet Offensive had broken out. But we were in staging battalion in Camp Pendleton, and the Tet Offensive broke out. Bill Purcell and Gary Eichler were already over there involved in the battle for Hue.
SPEAKER 08 :
Grady, what was the Tet Offensive?
SPEAKER 04 :
The Tet Offensive, Tet means the Lunar New Year. Every year the Oriental people, especially the Vietnamese people, they call it Tet, T-E-T. They celebrate the, it's kind of like our Christmas celebration. They celebrate the good happenings that are going to happen in the coming year. And everybody was on vacation the end of January of 1968. Well, every year they do this. And there was a lull in the fighting. And what had happened is the North Vietnamese had infiltrated most of the major cities in South Vietnam below the DMZ. Hue City, the old... capital of Vietnam. It's what Boston is to us in our revolutionary history. There was probably anywhere from 10,000 to 15,000 NBA soldiers infiltrated into Hue City. They did so in Saigon. They did so in Da Nang. They were up at Khe Sanh. And they staged a major push, major offensive to come in and crush us, the military, the United States military. Marines were all in the northern I-Corps area. And when the battle for Hue City broke out, why, a platoon, well, actually it was a company. It was a couple platoons, a couple, three platoons. knew that there was a disturbance going on in Wey City, and Bill Purcell and Gary Eichler were the two gentlemen that I talked about, the Marines that they were in the point. They went up there. They were the first ones in there, and there was 10,000 NVA waiting on them, and they started fighting house to house. And after that, after the Marines, the 5th Marines and the 1st Marines regiments arrived, secured the citadel inside the city of Hue while my battalion was rushed up there, 1st Battalion, 27 Marines, and they had pushed all of the NVA out into the canal area. The canal area was the rice paddy area out to the coast, and our mission was to go after them and curtail them. And the reason they were out there is that was the rice-producing area. That was their food supply. And it took us almost three months to secure that area out there. And then we went back down to south of Da Nang on Operation Allenbrook, which was a major operation that year. All this time, caisson's going on up on the DMC. And they were... In the case of the Marines up there, the 26 Marines were surrounded by probably 20,000 NVA coming in from Laos. It was the peak year of the war, the Tet Offensive. Does that give you a good idea?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think that's it. Paula, anything else to add to that right now? No? Okay, good. Okay, let's continue on then, Grady.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, when I first got there, right before we went up to Hue City, we knew that there was a lot going on, and we were staging. We were being snapped in, so to speak. We were being trained by the unit that was already there south of Da Nang, getting us ready to take over that area. And I remember in the chow line, I had—we had trays— go through the line, buffet style, get your food, eat it. Then you go out to a boiling trash can, boiling water trash can with a heat unit on it, and you dip your tray in there and wash it off with a brush. And as I walked up to that washing station, another Marine had a rifle trained on me, and he says, get out of the way with an expletive. And I knew that he was serious, and I moved out of the way, and he shot the man right behind me, right in the stomach. Miraculously, the fellow lived. We wrestled this guy down. His rifle jammed, and another quick-thinking sergeant Started wrestling with him, wrestling the rifle away with him, and a bunch of us jumped in and took it away. I wasn't ready for that. Nobody is. I had been there probably three or four days, and another Marine shooting another Marine, and these guys had been in the field forever, I think. They had the 1,000 yards there, and they were best friends. And miraculously, the other Marine lived. But the Marine that shot him, he went to prison over that. And I just wasn't ready for that. And I didn't tell anybody about that for a long time. And at a reunion about two years ago, I related that to another friend of mine at the reunion. And he says, I was in the line. He said, I saw that. I never told anybody about that because I was ashamed of it. I thought nobody would believe me.
SPEAKER 08 :
A couple of things on that, Grady. I remember the first time I heard the term 1,000-foot stare was from one of the World War II veterans that I interviewed that had served in the Pacific Theater. Tell our listeners what that is exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's post-traumatic stress therapy. It's the beginning of post-traumatic stress. A thousand yards there, that came from World War II. Everybody was just numb. Obviously, these two friends had an argument and they got mad at each other. It was normal to have a rifle and take care of the situation out in the field. I'm just speculating.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know. It's hard to know.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's hard to know. It really shook me up. I didn't really tell anybody about it for all my life. My wife didn't even know about it. But I thought it was crazy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it really is. And, again, I think I said 1,000 foot. I meant 1,000-yard stare. And my understanding also is that looking out to always be watching what is going on out there also is kind of a contributor to that 1,000-yard stare as well, Grady.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I would become numb myself later on as we got into the war, as we went up to – to Hawaii City out in the canal area. We met some pretty heavy resistance out there. It was no cakewalk. We lost a lot of Marines, and then we went back down on Operation Allenbrook, and we lost even more. Denny describes it well in his chapter. Denny's a close friend of mine. He was the corpsman. Anyway, that's Things like that in the book we reflect back on. That's why Colonel Fisher got me involved in the hyperbaric oxygen situation, healing our heroes. All these kids coming back from the Middle Eastern wars, I wanted to help them. I got to come back. I got to live. So the least I can do is help others. Some didn't get to come back.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Grady, we are actually just about out of time. So clearly this is going to be the cliffhanger for next week because we will get you scheduled to continue with your story. And it seems interesting to me, Paula, that so many people in America today are so interested in their personal ancestry. But we also have to be interested in our American ancestry as well, our American history. And that's why this is such an important series that we're doing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, it is. And it's very important because these guys didn't get to tell their story when they got out of the Marine Corps in the 70s. And I know my husband and I, neither one, talked about any of this until 1999.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and Grady, that is why Cooper's Troopers is this group of Marines that meets in North Denver. And it's very supportive of each other because you've each... seeing different things but in a lot of ways the same things and that has been such a healing organization for so many people and you're very humble about this but you've done a lot to help a lot of different marines and and service men and women in this so thank you so much for what you do
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, thank you. Thank your audience for listening.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so we are going to schedule Grady for next week, Paula. All right. We'll get that done.
SPEAKER 10 :
And again, let's see, how can people... They can contribute to the foundation, usmcmemorialfoundation.org.
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and write a notebook there. And the person that contributes the most after we do this series will receive a hardback copy with the autograph of all of our heroes here. So Grady Birdsong, we will talk to you next week.
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Most definitely. My friends, you can see that we as Americans stand on the shoulders of giants. And it is our time to step forward into this as well. We are in an ideological battle right now for the heart and soul of our country. And I so thank each and every one of these servicemen and women for my freedom. And all I can say is, my friends, God bless you and God bless America.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And boy, it's starting to feel like spring. I hear the birds singing and the trees are budding. Spring is trying to spring or sprung. But I think there might be some snow later on in the week. So it's Rocky Mountains. God, I hope not. Well, we'll see. Because you know what? They can't tell us for sure what the weather is going to be like tomorrow. How do they think they are going to tell us what the temperature is going to be like in 100 years, right?
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That's a good question. Climate change.
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And it's not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, childhoods, or lives via force. and force can be a weapon but it can be policy unpredictable and excessive taxation fear coercion government-induced inflation the agenda by the world economic forum and the globalist elites played out through the united nations this legislature is so radical activists left as well as this governor here in colorado jared polis but you can see this assault upon property rights Via land use code, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. We're going to be talking with Virginia Maka, who founded Stand for the Land Kansas, as our featured guest in this hour. And she's going to give us an update on these land grabs and what is happening. People are stepping forward now. to push back on that. Remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. The show comes to you on all KLZ 560 platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM. The website and the app comes in loud and clear on Alexa. And the show podcasts are posted to Spotify and iTunes. So you can catch all of that. Let's see, did want to mention, I guess we're down to the, is it the final four? Where are we at exactly on March Madness? I know all the games were on yesterday, and I think that's where we are. Obviously, I was not partaking and watching all of them because I just got busy with all the other stuff that we needed to do. But a great place to watch the games. Baseball season is opening up is Hooters Restaurants. And Hooters Restaurants has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together to watch the games with friends. And wonderful lunch specials for both Monday through Friday and also for happy hour. Also, thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. and we really do appreciate it and again we are an independent voice on an independent station so we're not paid and bought by anybody and uh let's see here we just are all of you we are just grassroots coloradans who care deeply about what's happening on the show Somebody asked me, Kim, what do you focus on? And we certainly focus on this great American idea that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And how does that play out? Well, first of all, elections are very important. And as you all know, we founded the Colorado 2024 Election Project, We have our two lawsuits in place, and we're morphing this into Reclaim Colorado 2025-2026 because we've got much work to do here, my friends. So we're going to focus on elections because if we don't have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, we don't have anything. And we're seeing that play out today in Wisconsin. I know Peter Berninger is working diligently with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice regarding this Supreme Court election in Wisconsin. If the radical activist leftist wins, she will use her power to redistrict Wisconsin that will ultimately affect congressional seats. So this is really, really huge. And so stay tuned on that. But we're working diligently. On these elections, Colorado is the petri dish for all of the stuff that they are trying to do throughout the country. I'm going to be writing a book about that, so stay tuned on that because we need to know what's going on so that we can change it. But also climate change. Be sure and check out the documentary I'm involved in, and that is aclimateconversation.com. You can watch that for free. It's been on Newsmax a number of times. It is the project of Walt Johnson, and he wanted to just have a conversation about all of this stuff regarding climate, and so brought in scientists and experts to talk about that. And I think he might want to do a sequel, so stay tuned on that as well. But that's at climateconversation.com. So we focus on elections, climate change, our children, We have a duty to protect our children and obviously property rights. Property rights are inherent within the American idea. Our word of the day is presage. It's spelled P-R-E-S-A-G-E. First definition could be an indication or warning of a future occurrence, an omen. Number two, a feeling or intuition of what is going to occur, a presentiment. Or number three, it could be a prophetic significance or meaning. So presage. That's our word of the day. Your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. And... Let me think about, let's see, feeling or intuition is what is going to occur. If we do not get our elections under control so that we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, then we are going to continue down the road towards socialism and communism. Make no mistake, even though there are those that are saying that the Democrat Party is in disarray, and it is, they are not going to give up. The radical activists are not going to give up. And they realize that if they can take the congressional seats, the senatorial seats in 2026, that they can basically... thwart anything that Donald Trump is trying to accomplish for our country. Also, these local elections, and that would be special district, school district, your city, county, and obviously the state elections are super important as well. And so that's why elections and the integrity of our elections is so important. And so your challenge is to use the word presage in a sentence today. Our quote of the day, I went to Sir Isaac Newton. He was born in 1643. He died in 1727. He was an English polymath, active as a mathematician, physicist, astronomer, alchemist, theologian, and author. He was a key figure in the scientific revolution and the enlightenment that followed. And he said this, if I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants. And we here in America do stand on the shoulders of giants. Our bill of the day is Senate Bill 25-201, and it is to require age checks for online sexual materials. And this particular bill, I found it as I was going through all of the different bills for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And it certainly piqued my interest. It's not one that we chose because it didn't fall within the purveyance of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. However, it piqued my interest, so I decided to do some more research on that. And I find it interesting. curious, I think. Again, Senate Bill 25-201. The prime sponsors are Senator Paul Lundeen, who is the Republican minority leader in the Senate, and then three Democrats, and that's Senator Lindsay Doherty, Representative Megan Lukens, and Representative Mandy Lindsay. And I just think it's curious the way this is set up. So I texted Senator Lundin and said I'd like to talk with him about that. So I want to talk with all of you about this as well. And so we're going to do that here in just a moment. But a couple of things. Didn't want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. And they are going to have their second annual golf tournament out at the Ridge in, I think it's May 15th. You can find the exact date by going to their website. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. They have a limited number of spaces. It's a great golf course to my understanding, a great way to meet some new people, a great way to support the Marine Memorial. More information on that, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then we have wonderful sponsors. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Before we get over to this bill that I want to talk with you about, and then also we want to talk about Cut Engaged Colorado Unions of Taxpayers. This is our new service for all of you. This is from Colorado Politics. And on Saturday, the Colorado Republicans elect former county treasurer with Routt County, Britta Horn, as the state party chair. So we certainly congratulate her. Another thing that I thought was interesting, and this was from, I think it was from Axios, Denver 7, excuse me, and that is the Sundance Film Festival is moving to Boulder, Colorado. And what is interesting, though, is the state, as well as the city of Boulder, have given them incentives to do so. And And so if they want to move to Boulder, that's one thing. But to use taxpayers' money to entice them is not something that I think that we should be doing. I think that we should be lowering taxes across the board for all businesses. Now, it continually will cite that there's additional new business and revenue that comes to the city. But quite frankly, I don't think we should be using tax dollars anymore. to make that happen, lower taxes, lower regulations and rules across the board, so that businesses and festivals come to communities on their own volition instead of because of these gimmies that are given there. But that is big news on that. Oh, the other thing is, is the Colorado Assembly has sent this Senate Bill 003 to the governor, which is the magazine bill, which is one of the most radical Second Amendment bills in the country for the governor to sign. And when I say that Colorado's at the tip of the spear on everything, I'm not kidding. That's why these elections are so important. That's why... Understanding what's going on in Colorado is so important, and that's why we will be connecting those dots for you. So stay tuned on that. So next thing I wanted to just read through this. Okay, so my friends, something doesn't feel right on this. The Senate Bill 25201, and it is, I like the title, concerning requiring certain Internet websites that provide material that is harmful to children to verify the age of individuals who attempt to access such material. Okay, that sounds good, but notice it's only for internet. We're putting these pornographic books into our school libraries without any age verification. So why the internet? So me and my cynical on this, why the internet? Why are these Democrats pushing the pornography into our school libraries But here we have three Democrats, and I think Paul Lundeen, the Republican senator, I think he probably is looking at this as this is a step in the right direction. But something doesn't feel right to me, my friend. So I want to hear from you, 720-605-0647. So anyway, in the bill summary, it says this. It says, on and after July 1, 2026, the bill requires certain Internet websites that knowingly and intentionally publish or distribute material that is harmful to children to, number one, perform one or more reasonable age verification measures to verify the age of the individual. So first thing, they're going to want everybody to verify their age. So that means that people that are over the age of 18 are going to have to verify their age, which that seems a little bit like that might be something they wouldn't want to do. Joe, I can see that you're questioning this kind of like I am. Any comments as I'm running through this so far?
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I'm just wondering why the specific regulation. I also thought about, well, these kids can be 18 to see this kind of material, but they can't drink a beer or own a gun.
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Well, that's a good point, too. That's a conversation for another day. Good point. So it goes on to say, it says, prevent children from accessing such material. And it says that these, it says a covered platform may not rely solely upon the geographical registration of an Internet protocol address. So that means they're looking at your location. So there's a lot of, I think, Fourth Amendment stuff going on here. and must apply extensive due diligence based on available technology before concluding the individuals not located in Colorado. So there's all of that. So then in the legislative declaration, and they'll go through all these reasons, it says, Getting this, it says, recognizing the widespread availability of online pornographic content and its potential harm to minors, the General Assembly finds it necessary to require the implementation of age verification measures to prevent youth from accessing such material. This declaration affirms the state's commitment to safeguarding children from exposure to explicit content that may negatively impact their development while protecting the rights of individuals 18 years of age or older. says by requiring robust and effective age verification systems for access access to online pornography and requiring a non-identity document-based option this legislation seeks to uphold the well-being of minors while respecting the rights of adults to lawful next page here hold on lawful So then it goes on to say this. The General Assembly also finds that extensive research has demonstrated that exposure to pornography at a young age can contribute to adverse public health outcomes, including increased rates of anxiety, depression, and distorted perceptions of healthy relationships and consent. It goes on to say studies indicate that early and repeated exposure to sexually explicit material is linked to compulsive behaviors, desensitization to violence, and unrealistic expectations about intimacy, which can have long-term consequences on minor viewers' mental and emotional well-being. And then it goes on to say, leading public health organizations emphasize the need for protective measures to prevent premature exposure to pornography, citing its potential to negatively influence adolescent brain development and social behavior. Okay, I agree with all that. Why, why, why do we have in Colorado this movement to make sure that we have pornographic material in our schools? so this goes on though i look at this more and it says a child means an individual under 18 years of age who resides in colorado but yet we've had all of this legislation that says 12 year olds can have an abortion and that they can give permission for uh like psychotropic drugs without their parents knowing so this is not matching up but then it goes on to say that it's focusing on platforms that make revenue off of this. So I'm wondering if that leaves the door open for quote-unquote NGOs to promote this material. And is this also a way to start to control the Internet to some degree? Is this a way to... With online verification, that seems like that's onerous, that an individual would have to provide that. There's things that I'm concerned about. So I like the title. I like some of the whereas. But when you get into the guts of this, I think that there could be some real problems. I'd like to know what you all think about that. This piece, it's Senate Bill 25201. It's nine, it's 10 pages, I guess. Let me know what you think about that. I think we need to have a conversation. And Joe, your comments.
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It kind of sounds like an information grab, like that AI bill that they're trying to use for wild forest fires seems similar to that, where they're just trying to get every last bit of information out of you that they can.
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That's what I'm concerned about, because why is it only online? Why are they concerned about the age and everything here, and yet they are just adamant on getting pornographic books into our school libraries?
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Why are the teachers talking about it with second graders as well?
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Yeah, it just it does not make sense. It does not make sense. So a couple of other things that I wanted to mention and Colorado engaged. We have that up and running. My friends, you need to take advantage of this. We have spent time, money and energy to bring this to fruition. Go to the cut Colorado taxpayer website. That's Colorado taxpayer dot org. And at the top, Click on Cut Engaged and it will bring up the bills that we have selected that you can very easily make your comments known to the sponsors of the bill and then you can add in your senator or your legislator as well. And one that I think that we have four bills that we selected for this week, but one that I think you all should weigh in on is House Bill 25-1244. It's the Welcome, Reception, and Integration Grant Program. And the bill seeks to expand an existing program which awards money to NGOs for assisting migrants with language training, job searches, and navigation. Hold on here. Navigation. of the state's financial assistance programs. And the bill changes requirements for the immigrant to have arrived within the past year, to have arrived within the last three years. You have an opportunity to weigh in on this. Go to CutEngaged. It's super easy. If you have any problems, you can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. We've got Gammy on the line. Gammy, you've got one minute to weigh in on this. I think you're calling on Senate Bill 201. So what's your thoughts on that?
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Correct. I got exactly the same feelings you did about everything when I read it and reread it. And what I don't understand, They just made the case for that 063 library bill in this very messy thing. And the big question is, why aren't you just attacking the materials and removing them? That's what common sense would say. Why do you need to crawl into our underwear, our lives, our way of living, our parents, our rights? Why don't you just stop the materials?
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from getting to the children rather than trying to create don't look like another registry that all we're going to see if we won't yeah i i don't know already deep messed up and it's messing up on everything boy gimme thank you for calling in on that uh... at the same here and Paul Lundeen, I know that he probably has his name on it because he cares about kids. But these are things that we need our legislators to look at the long-term consequences and what is the underlying thing happening here. And, Gammy, thank you for weighing in on that. I'm like you. I feel danger, danger on this. But, Gammy, the language that they have in this bill... We can use that as we're fighting to protect our children on all of these other things. So, Gammy, thanks for calling in. I really appreciate it. You bet. Okay. And all this happens, all these conversations because of sponsors. And we're in the spring buying and selling season in residential real estate. And if you're going to buy a home, sell a home, or look at a new build, be sure and have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And you talk about a force, though, a force to be reckoned with. is Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. And even though we've not met in person, I feel we're kindred spirits. Virginia Maka, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. How is everybody in Colorado? Well, we're doing our best to fight all the nutso stuff out there, Virginia Maka.
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Oh, I'm telling you, Kim, I just listened to your last segment. And unintended consequences. we have so many representatives that are bringing forth bills that by the time that bill is done with the best intentions down the road the unintended consequences are devastating for property owners for taxpayers and even for our children in education so It's been fun watching this last session of the legislature wrap up here in Kansas for the 2025 session.
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Speaking of that, Virginia, the Kansas Capitol has made the news with that satanic thing, and I've just kind of watched it just from headlines. Any comments on that?
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I do have some comments. We... our God-fearing people in this state. And there are lines, I believe, that are very clear, crystal clear, that are drawn in the sand. And to let the satanic thing go unanswered or even opposed by our leadership in the House and that variation of timeframes I mean, two to three weeks before anyone made a statement, I think was a true sign that leadership is absent in our capital. This was, there were some people that had to suffer unintended consequences, some young people that were standing up for what's right for this country. And a black mass in your capital, that should have been an immediate response, not a dribble of, well, I'm not sure. Yes, it is free speech. But there are also boundaries of that free speech, I believe, that may have been violated. And it just seemed to be kind of a clown show. you know, when it all came down, and a governor with no backbone.
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Well, and we need to engage in this battle of ideas. So I think a response would be that we certainly, from a free speech standpoint, overwhelm the narrative there with the narrative of truth and clarity on these issues. One of the beautiful... things about America is our liberty. But liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. And we are seeing the radical activists, extremists use these great foundational principles against us right now, Virginia. I know.
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It was, it's, and me and you have often talked about, we are a country of laws, and we follow those laws. And including demonstrating and exercising our right to free speech. And as real followers and law followers, there are a lot of facts that haven't came out about this, but repressing some of those free speech for one side versus the other was, It will come out in the end, you know, all the facts to be known. But it's a stat affair when your state is to this point. And this session was a great demonstration of how freedom is wavering here in Kansas.
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Well, it's really wavering here in Colorado as well. However, you, I, so many people are getting up every day and engaging in this battle of ideas. And where you really have become an expert, and I think it's almost... You hadn't planned on this. And that was property rights. But property rights are inherent within the American idea. The idea that everyday people could own property, the government would have a limited role, and that we would pay limited taxes. But that otherwise we would have the freedom to exercise the use of our property, both tangible and intangible, to go after our hopes and dreams. And what happens was a great, vibrant middle class. But we see with government, with USAID, the taking, the fleecing, the stealing of our money to be used to push these agendas. While the elites have gotten rich and everybody's gotten poor, that's not okay. So things are changing. But one of the things they've done is take our property. And if you can't use your property, if you're not in charge of your property, then you don't own your property. Hence, Stand for the Land Kansas. So give us a quick rundown on if this is the first time people have heard you. And then you've got some successes that are occurring.
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Oh, we do, Kim, and that keeps me going every day. In the last year, we have worked on growing our small groups in 105 counties. And those small groups are turning into 400 and 500 people that are attending public hearings, public meetings, questioning and calling their elected officials for accountability. And that has been a blessing for me to watch. These people never engaged and they're finding their footing and the leaders are rising to the top. So that's a great thing. We have a opportunity here in Kansas, and I've been working on this for the last about 60 days with a group of people. And we have a lawsuit heading for the federal court I believe in Johnson County, and it is in front of a Trump-appointed judge. So what this lawsuit will do, it's a Jackson County property owners have filed a lawsuit. They have a very credible team representing them in this civil action, and it's suing Janet Yellen, the Treasury Secretary of the United States, along with the environmental protection and a list of them over transferable tax credits and the ignoring of the NEPA requirement for any utility job, even economic development jobs that involve land and the environmental impact is being questioned on this solar project. So these three landowners have invested a lot of money in this civil action. So we decided to intercede with this civil case with an amicus brief. If you're unfamiliar about amicus briefs, they are briefs that have been put together by other interested parties that are affected. Solar is a very narrow lane, but we know solar is not the only problem. It's the transmission. It's the eminent domain. It's the environmental impact and changing of land use. It's the impact, the economic impact and changing of a economy of a local community, which impacts small towns, small rural farming towns. So this amicus brief we have worked on and we have the opportunity to demonstrate to the federal judge that this is more than solar. So we traveled to Western Kansas and shot a documentary for Judge Holly Teeter to view so that she can see the devastation of not just the solar and the changing of land use and how everybody has stepped over these environmental impacts. It's the changing of the economy of small rural towns, the impact of them having to submit more testing, environmental testing to the state, not to impact an environmental impact statement but just to remain say their wastewater treatment is picking up environmental entities like you know certain levels of say air quality or water quality they have to pay for that testing taxpayers will have to pay for that testing and that's extra on top of these small rural towns and they don't have the budgets for it so the requirements is really putting a lot of small towns at risk not to be able to meet requirements to maintain their wastewater treatments so virginia just a quick comment i wanted to make here in colorado as many of you know i'm the president of the colorado union of taxpayers it's all volunteer group and so we're watching legislation
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And we have over 570 bills and resolutions that have been proposed here in Colorado, and we're not done until May 6th. But there is a piece of legislation to fast-track. quote unquote, renewable, the permitting of renewable projects here in Colorado. And you can see they're playing long ball on all this stuff. And with 570 pieces of legislation, it's very difficult for everyday people to really watch what's happening. But I just want to let you know that they're doubling down over here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, please send me that information on that bill. if you really think about the the entire ball of wax for the united states each state will pass legislation that is very similar to other states and kansas is leading in this fast track renewable and the fast track of transmission and working it so that the taxpayers unknowingly are paying for that uh that those projects especially battery storage and they're doing it through tax credits they're doing it through uh taking money from the state general fund and putting it into slush funds that are very hard to track and so yes legislation has been very lackluster this session even giving tax credits to data centers and
SPEAKER 08 :
So you're saying they're trying to get tax credits to data centers? Tax credits to data centers?
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They have given tax credits. The federal government has actually issued transferable credits. Part of the civil suit, this civil suit that's hitting the federal court, is that these We have never in this country had transferable tax credits. And what those are now, you can transfer those to a third party and liquidate them for cash. And that cash is not taxable as income. Oh, man. Okay. And so you see how big this case is. And that is why we entered into an amicus brief. Because when this judge renders her decision, It could throw the jake break on all of this green energy. It could call into question all these recurring tax credits that are hooked to our land that we don't even know, that are hooked to property that property owners have no idea their land has been entered into these tax credit areas.
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OK, so. OK, so, Virginia, let's go to break. And then my next question, because I had I had teased the NITC transmission lines and wanted. I just have a question on whether or not that these tax credits, how that affects that. So I'm talking with Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. and doing amazing work. Check out our website, StandForTheLandKansas.com. All these discussions are so important because of all of our great sponsors. And one of those great sponsors is Lorne Levy. So for everything mortgages, you want to be sure that you reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom is something that's a good idea. Excuse me, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the Center for American Values website. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. They are located in Pueblo, Colorado. They've got a great event coming up on, I think it's the 16th of April, and on values presentation by Norma Donlon, who is the gold star wife of Roger Donlon, who recently passed on. He was the first Vietnam veteran veteran to be awarded the Medal of Honor. And so it's going to be a great presentation down at the center in Pueblo. The center is non-political, non-partisan. It is focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Virginia Mock is on the line with me. And check out the website, standforthelandkansas.com. Virginia, a question I wanted to know, you mentioned these transferable tax credits that the entities don't have to pay taxes on. How does that match up with this other discussion we've had in the past regarding NITC, the National Interest Electric Transmission Corridors? How does that match up with that?
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So the NITC has lost a little bit of steam because... funding. These lines, some of these, say the Greenbelt line, that's going to carry the power equal to three nuclear plants. It's astounding. Even when you say that to a professional electrical engineer who has helped me do calculations through this process, he's blown away. Three nuclear plants, the power to be on one line and that's direct current. So the grain belt was part of a Nipsey line. And we have some heroes in Washington. Senator Josh Hawley has been a warrior for us. And now he is calling for the Department of Energy to pull back the $4.9 billion loan for the construction of the grain belt. Now the grain belt has been canceled in Illinois This line is like 700 and some miles between Kansas and Missouri. It cuts our states in half. And so Senator Josh Hawley has called for the pullback of that $4.9 billion in loans to build the Greenbelt. Now, as for the NISI lines, They have pulled down all those niche lines because of the process and the environmental impact statement, the same principle that is being applied in the civil suit in Kansas, because there has been no environmental impact done. So environmental impacts take years to do, especially the amount of area that they're trying to cover. Now you do have one coming up from New Mexico and the South, uh, Southeast quarter, uh, Colorado, but it is slowed down because of the funding. Uh, so that's some good news. I believe you have a Congressman Babart, uh, in that area, Boebert, and she, uh, came to Kansas and she is working with some of our people that are working on the Greenbelt. So that's another plus. she is very aware. And so if we can get the Department of Energy and all of this money that has just been flying in the air for whatever and whoever, it's amazing how this has really kind of slowed the wheels. And counties now are rising up in Kansas asking for help to fight these green energy companies. Things are every day change and they are moving fast. I think this lawsuit will bring it all to a head. This is a lawsuit that could set a precedence across the state and it could head to the Supreme Court, giving Senator Josh Hawley and other people that bring in a little bit more clout than a state alone. They could intercede in this if it heads to the Supreme Court. And this ruling would be something that impacts every state, every county, at least give us some tools to battle back. And as for our President Trump, he has done all he can to call back the money that was left there, but as you would have the other side, has really been working overtime, trying to hide the money from Doge, try to hide the money from the departments through these NGOs. And the NGOs are like a spider web. So that is kind of where we're at. But President Trump is doing small things to bring down, push his executive order authority as far as it can go to at least slow it down if not get rid of the money for one reason or the other. So he has a very difficult, let's say, pathway to navigate. And drill, baby, drill. That's the smart thing to do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, absolutely. And Virginia, what you are doing with Stand for the Land Kansas and getting this lawsuit filed is really, really important. And so I know that the legal system moves slowly. Any kind of time frames on all of this?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes. The civil suit hits the court in April. We will file our amicus briefs. right before that hearing, so it will be viewed by the judge. We're working on the finals of the production, the documentary, And it'll be a very short five-minute clip, but it's very impactful to get people's stories in front of the judge to show her the harm that it is doing to a lot of citizens and a lot of property owners. And once that video is done, I will share that with you. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Will that be at Stanford Land in Kansas as well?
SPEAKER 18 :
We hope it will. You know, we hope we can get it online, but we would like the judge to be at first. There may be some legal legality there, but we'll work through that. But I think it's impactful that we all have stories, good, bad, or indifferent. But when it comes to the story of our land, that is our pride, and that is what secures our freedom every day.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, Virginia Maka, we've got a minute left. And you never really had thought that this was what you were going to do. You're, I think, an engineer by trade, but you've stepped forward because you realize this is so important for the American idea. Your final thought.
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When you hit a point of life where you're looking at, what am I going to leave behind? What is worth leaving behind? and what is worth taking on. And any time that you can stand up for freedom, I believe that that is not only all of our legacies, but it's what we hand to our children in the generations to come. So it's very important to have a voice. And you, Kim, have been a voice, an outlet for those voices. And we should have more of you. We should have more Kins in this world. That's what I think.
SPEAKER 08 :
Virginia Maka, thank you so much. Let's stay in touch. Again, that website is StandForTheLandKansas.com. Keep up the great work. We'll have you back on soon.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thank you so much. And everybody in Colorado, you have a great day.
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We sure are. Yeah, I think I read something the other day. This estate farm, we handled 400 hail claims last year all over the U.S. And Colorado is probably at the top of the list between us and Texas, Kansas. Lots of hail. Lots of hail.
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Well, so not just 400 clients.
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What does that mean, 400 different storms? Storms, 400 different storms, reported hail storms. Yeah, and some of them are, you know, gigantic and others are pretty small. So we're talking about all hail.
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Okay. Okay. Well, since Colorado is where we're located and we seem to get these hail storms, Roof, Is there any additional things that people should think about?
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You know, there is something that came out recently that has been problematic in terms of claims over the last, throughout my career. So here's what goes on. Let's say a hailstorm hits your roof. And it damages the south side of the roof. And there's no damage to the north side of the roof. So the adjuster comes out and says, we're going to pay for what was damaged. And so you could have half a roof, basically, which means that if you want to replace a whole roof, you're responsible for the other half on your own, your own dollars. People aren't happy about that because they want everything to match, and I can understand that. So State Farm came out with an endorsement that you could purchase that would actually replace that side of the roof that was not damaged. You have to do that at renewal. You can't do it. So if you renew and... March, you missed it. If you renew in May, I'd put it on, for example, or April. Because hail season usually runs from April through early October. July is probably one of the worst months. So that endorsement is probably maybe $160 a year. You could actually help yourself a lot by having that endorsement on. So we're talking about maybe $15 a month more in your premiums. So if you're ever put in that position, you could have some coverage. An average roof today is probably between 15 and 20, 25,000. And one thing I would caution you, once a hailstorm hits your area, please do not answer the door and talk to an out-of-state adjuster. We have a list of contractors that we have used for years that are reputable, that will take care of you, and they're accountable for to their own ethics, but they're also accountable to us, State Farm Roger Mangan. If we recommended one, two or three roofers and you choose one of those three and you have a problem with them and they're not responding, you can always call our office and we will then call them to take care of any issues that are outstanding. Give you a quick example. I had insured that, got a check from State Farm on a hail loss up in Arvada, and the adjuster missed a lot, okay? And by the way, these adjusters, when a catastrophic loss occurs, that's 500 claims or more, defined as 500 claims or more, then you get an adjuster from out of state, they come in and they adjust. A lot of them won't even go on the roof anymore, they'll use a drone, or they'll use some other a visual inspection, and they'll miss things. Well, in this case, it was about $5,000 of items missed in this claim. The insured called me and said, hey, how come they didn't have this or this or that in the estimate? I said, well, let me give them a call, find out what's going on. We did and sent another adjuster on a re-inspection, and the insured ended up with about $4,000 more on the claim. So those adjusters, by the way, are on rotation, 90-day rotation when they come in. So at the end of 90 days, the adjuster you had, they're gone. So State Farm is very good at keeping good notes. And again, it is troublesome. I mean, we even have a challenge as an agency getting our adjusters to have a conversation with us about details. So I can't imagine if you had a company that didn't have an agent, you're out there on your own. So I would advocate a direct writer. to have your insurance with. Could be State Farm, Farmers, American Family. They're all out there and they're all good. Your insurance really is as good as your agent. Let me put it that way.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I'm really pleased to have on the line with me. She was on the show a few weeks ago. And that is Savannah Crossfield. And she is a documentary maker, filmmaker. She's with Lucidity Pictures. And she has a documentary, Cradled in Glass. That is their project. And very important regarding IVF, in vitro fertilization. Savannah Crossfield, welcome to the show. Thank you. Good to be here. So Savannah, I wanted to get into more in-depth questions regarding IVF, in vitro fertilization. I've looked at it or heard about it. I thought, oh my gosh, what a miracle. People that I know that have wanted to be parents have used IVF successfully and have children that they love and they cherish. And I love that. But there's other things to consider, yes? Yes, definitely. So let's talk about that. Okay. So where should we start on this?
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Okay. So I think that when most people, of course, like you said, hear about in vitro fertilization, if they haven't themselves walked through it and had to research it themselves, think of it, like you said, as this miracle solution to infertility, this way that parents or intended parents, people who want to be parents, who have infertility can have children. And of course, we all love children, whether you're pro-life, pro-choice, from any culture, you love children and you want parents who desperately want children to be able to have that dream. But the issue that we see and that we want to look into in this series is that there is such a high risk to each individual human life that is created through IVF that we need to look more into whether or not the risk to human life is worth the few that make it through the entire process. And so the statistic that you can look to is that seven to eight percent of those created through IVF are born alive. And there's a number of factors that go into that. But at base, you can look at that a petri dish, which is where these very small human lives, these little embryos, are created in and grown out to for about six to eight days before, if they're intended to be implanted, then they would be implanted into the mother. But during that six to eight day period, there's a very high level of embryo attrition, which means that The number of embryos that don't make it through all of that growth to the sixth day is incredibly high. We see it to be around about half, but it depends on a lot of different factors, including the age of the mother or egg donor, whoever that the eggs are from. Also, the quality of the sperm and a couple of different factors. that risk is always very significant regardless of the quality of the eggs and the quality of sperm. And so that goes mainly into the reason why we have such low birth rates from embryos created through IVF. But a couple of other things that we look at are sex selection and genetic screening. And so if parents opt in to do genetic screening on their embryos, they're told that that would increase the success rate of a pregnancy because you're looking at each embryo and testing its quality, quote, unquote, viability, and you're looking at whether a given embryo potentially has Down syndrome or Turner syndrome or... some other kind of genetically related genetic disorder that could be passed down from the parents. And you can also, when you do genetic screening, see the chromosomes and you can tell whether an embryo is a male or female. And so parents can also be given the option of choosing whether or not they want to implant a female embryo or a male embryo. And so this obviously decreases birth rates because you are discarding embryos that are not chosen to be implanted. And then when you look at the rates of embryos that survive implementation, that's also around about 35%, depending on health of the mother, health of the embryo, many factors. But that is the highest that we have seen it, 35 to 40%. And so that also decreases that success rate. And so we are looking at the number of surplus embryos, is what they're called, when you have embryos that you don't implant right away. You implant about one or two embryos nowadays. And if you have extra embryos that you aren't implanting in that cycle in this Petri dish at their sixth to eighth day, then you would be freezing those embryos if you wanted to save them for successive pregnancies, or if you wanted to put them up for adoption, there's embryo donation, that's what it is called, that other families could adopt those embryos and then try to have those embryos and have pregnancy and try to implant them. Or you could also donate your remaining embryos to scientific research. And that is where you're getting stem cell research, other gene disease modeling, things like that, that we're doing in research labs. So yeah, obviously lots of different ethical questions of where all of these different embryos are going and if they're surviving the process at all.
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So Savannah Crossfield with Lucidity Pictures, what happens in the petri dish with the sperm and the egg, that is happening in the petri dish, which is what would normally happen during human intercourse, sexual intercourse, yes? Or right after, yeah. Okay, okay. And then the six to eight days, we'll see, I guess is the correct term, whether or not it would take intercourse. Savannah, why are you interested in this? Why does this matter to you?
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Sure. So I have been interested in issues, pro-life issues regarding those who have not been born for a very long time. And I only knew about the abortion issue, of course. Most people do. And so I had been looking into that, researching that, and that had been the thing that I was trying to help with the pain. And then I got married at 19, got married young, and then immediately after got pregnant with my son. And so I am fertile and fertile. I have not in any way had to use IVF, thankfully. And when I had my son, I had a perfectly healthy, natural pregnancy. And at birth, everything went well. And then I saw after I had him on social media somewhere that there is a statistic, and I verified it and we have it as part of our series, that there are 1.5 million at least frozen embryos in the United States. And I did not realize why they were there, why they were frozen, if they were up for adoption or if they were abandoned or what was happening or how they even got there in the first place. I felt that I needed to do something about the number of embryos that I believe in science shows are very, very early, very young humans that, you know, why this is the case. And so at first I looked into embryo adoption and to build our family that way. And so I wanted to do that. And then as I was trying to look into that process, I got pregnant with my daughter, naturally. And so, of course, obviously I couldn't adopt an embryo because my uterus was occupied. You were busy. Right, exactly. So I was thinking, okay, well, next baby, our third baby, will be an adopted embryo. And then I had my daughter prematurely, and we had an emergency C-section, and it was a rather traumatic birth. And so I'm now no longer a good candidate to do that very high risk. And IVF is just going to put pregnancies at a higher risk statistically in general. So not a good candidate for that anymore. But my background is in filmmaking and broadcast journalism. And I felt that there just wasn't anything for the public out there, for the lay person in the movie or documentary or film space that people could consume and truly understand this really important topic. And of course, it's in such a critical time for us to understand what goes on in IVF, how many embryos are frozen out there, what can we do, what should we be looking at as alternative methods to handle infertility and different treatments that make us healthier and allow us to naturally conceive. And it's such a critical time because Of course, this past presidential debate in the presidential election, the issue of IVF was brought up, and it was the very first time that we were talking about it as its national issue. And then, of course, a few weeks ago, a month or so, President Trump signed an executive order looking to get policy recommendations on how to make IVF more accessible and affordable for Americans when most Americans don't really know the science of IVF and what we need to be considering and what issues will increase necessarily if we're increasing the number of IVF procedures we're doing in this country. So, yeah, very important.
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Yeah, okay. So, again, I have friends that have used IVF. They have children. They wanted children. They love their children. And I see that blessing. I have to say the title of your documentary, Cradled in Glass. I was at church the other day, and there's children everywhere and pregnant moms. And I love that. And I... I do think about little ones that are frozen, that are cradled in glass someplace. And it does stop me in my tracks. And then this idea of selection. of genetic selection, sex selection, that can start to be a really dark road to go down. You can see some positives, but that could be a very dark road to go down. For example, Down syndrome kids. I know that Down kids, there's certainly challenges there. with that, but they're also beautifully, wonderfully made and precious. And so the idea to select to not have, and I guess that happens through abortion as well. Gosh, these are ethical questions that get you at the gut, I think, Savannah.
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Yeah. And the other thing is, like we said, in most cases, In IVF cycles, and of course, there can be exceptions, and when there are, that is amazing and beautiful. But in most cases, there are embryos that were created that did not make it in a given cycle. So you're looking at these beautiful children, and every single life is as valuable as another. And that is exactly why we're looking into this, because they probably had siblings that didn't make it. The wording in the IVF history or in these fertility clinics, when the doctors are talking to these couples that have been hurting and really psychologically have been struggling with the fact that they have had trouble naturally conceiving a child because they want one, and the language that is used to describe the processes to these parents is either scientifically iffy, not entirely scientifically accurate all the time. And then also can be very confusing. It's kind of like in the abortion industry when a doctor would tell you this is fetal tissue or just cells or tissue here and there, or using the word fetus or embryo. These terms can be very confusing to parents and they might not fully realize what is happening during these cycles. And ASRM, the American Society of Reproductive Medicine, which is the key board in this issue, has published information explaining that there are so many parents who have frozen embryos, have more than they intended to have in their family. They feel that they have finished building their family. They don't want any more children to raise. But they feel this ethical imbalance this ethical struggle, this dilemma on what to do with their embryos that they still have remainingly frozen, and often they feel that these are their frozen children, and they don't want to put them up for adoption because they don't like the idea of another family raising their children, and they don't want to discard them because they don't want to discard their children, but they also don't want to have them themselves, and that is one of the reasons why we have just so many frozen embryos in the u.s right now that will continue to be on ice relatively indefinitely many of them and then eventually they you know won't make it through that um for a number of reasons but that's you know just one of the things that we have to consider is a lot of parents don't really realize what's going on or that they'll have so many left over as a possibility and no one can control what numbers you know you'll end up with if you fertilize as many as possible And then you could be in this problem that we have so many Americans facing right now.
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Wow. Savannah Crossfield, there's all kinds of questions that are going through my mind right now. So we're going to continue this discussion. If you want to text me, that line is 720-605-0647. And these particular discussions are so important. And for that steakhouse experience at home, check out Lavaca Meat Company.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And as you know, I dearly love the USMC Memorial Foundation and all the work that they're doing. It's important to remember and honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for us, for our freedom. And there's a great fun way that you can... Support the foundation, and that is with their second annual Marine Memorial Golf Tournament, May 15th, at The Ridge at Castle Pines North. And you can register by going to their website, usmcmemorialfoundation.org, which you can support the foundation, play a great round of golf. meet some new people, and play a golf course you might not play very often. And so go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org to sign up for that. On the line with me is Savannah Crossfield. She is a filmmaker with Lucidity Pictures. And we're talking about IVF, in vitro fertilization. President Trump... issued an executive order regarding IVF, wanting to make it accessible and affordable. I guess the first question on affordable, does that mean that everybody else will pay for that, Savannah Crossfield?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, exactly. That's something that we need to look at is, of course, when the idea is floated that something will be more affordable, we have to look at how is that going to be the case. And so in this situation, the government is looking into making IVF more affordable through having either subsidies toward that issue, so that'd be taxpayer dollars, or through medical insurance companies and requiring those companies to cover IVF treatments. And so we look at the cost of IVF There's a study from California that shows that the average live birth from IVF costs $61,000. And that is because you're not guaranteed to have a live birth every IVF cycle. And each IVF cycle, you know, tens of thousands of dollars, $10,000, $15,000 around there. And there are a lot of additional added features or services that you might want to have when you do an IVF cycle, such as the genetic testing we talked about or freezing. There's a cost associated, an ongoing cost, with having embryos frozen in cryoscorage. And so the average amount of cycles that a parent goes through to have one live birth is two to three. And so if you want to build your family or multiple children, not just one live birth, you're going to go back to IVF and do more cycles. If you have remaining embryos, then you can thaw some of those and then attempt to implant those at successive cycles. Or you might, if you don't have remaining embryos, you might have to go back and go through the process again with fertilization And if there are issues with the mother's eggs or with the father's sperm, then you may need to get donor eggs and sperm. And if you have an issue with the mother's uterus or her reproductive system in carrying the baby, then she might have to look into a surrogate. And all of those are incredibly expensive. And so what we look at in our series is, is there an alternative for qualifying individuals as a fertility treatment but is number one, a lot more cost effective, a lot less expensive, and then also healthier and doesn't allow, you know, necessitate all these ethical questions because the goal would be natural conception. And so we look at this concept called restorative reproductive medicine. It's a field of medicine that looks to the root of one's infertility, whether that be a female issue or a male issue. And then treating that through various different methods because infertility is, you know, such an incredibly complex issue. So we look at hormones. We'll look at do you have endometriosis or a physical structural issue that we need to correct with surgery? Or is this, you know, a timing issue? We just really need to lock down when your cycle is so that we can time things. intercourse for natural conception there's a lot of things it could be dietary there's just so many things that go into one's fertility that this form of medicine seeks to treat and really when you look at it IVF in vitro fertilization is a workaround to infertility we're not actually treating the root cause of your infertility but instead we are you know creating a embryos outside of the womb and trying to implant them into a woman that might not be healthy. And so if instead we have a policy that supports restorative reproductive medicine and makes that more affordable, also there's a study that shows that with a successful treatment, a successfully treated individual, they can now naturally conceive cost $3,000 to $5,000. And if you want to compare that to one live birth from in vitro fertilization, that was $61,000. So, of course, it would be way more effective as a government policy to support with either taxpayer dollars or with medical insurance dollars, restorative reproductive medicine, over IVF. And I know I mentioned that there are some individuals where, of course, restorative reproductive medicine will not work. If you've had a hysterectomy, you don't have a uterus, or if there are no sperm in the male's testes, and we can't fix that through surgery, then, of course, restorative reproductive medicine will not work. But in most, the vast majority of individuals, restorative reproductive medicine is a potential option.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that is certainly a solution because of these ethical questions. So we as human beings, we can have something that can be very good, but it can also be used in a non-ethical way. And so you mentioned scientific research, right? Right. So the fertilization occurs in a Petri dish. There are six to eight days to see whether or not that fertilization takes.
SPEAKER 04 :
It could take immediately. It's just you have to grow the embryo. The embryo is the embryo from the moment of fertilization, which takes less than a nanosecond. But you want to grow the embryo out to what's known as a blastocyst stage, which is six to eight day. It has about 100 cells. And that is when you would either freeze it or try to implant it, or you could do the scientific research at that point. You have to make some decision on what to do with the embryo, because the embryo can't survive in the dish for all that long. So, yes. Okay, got it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you for the clarification on that. So people could determine whether or not they want a boy or a girl. They could... in some fertility clinics not all do it but most most do okay do genetic screening to determine if there might be some challenges with the embryo but you also mentioned scientific research now they're not going to just do scientific research on an embryo so in essence or i don't think they would you're i'm going to ask you the question So does that mean that that embryo would be planted? Would they ultimately be growing humans for scientific research?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. So we want to look into this. So an embryo at the sixth to eighth day, which is the blastocyst stage, we've got about 100 cells in this embryo. Let's say they're donated to scientific research. And so a research lab would do a number of things with that embryo, one of which, one of the most common things that an embryo donated to scientific research could have done is taking the stem cells, the embryonic stem cells, out of this embryo, growing them out in petri dishes in their differentiated cell types. I want to stress that an embryo is an incredibly complex organism, human organism, and it has differentiated cell types. Stem cells, embryonic stem cells, are just the precursor cells to those that would develop into adult cells. And so we see all that differentiation and complexity in these embryos. And so you would grow out the differentiated cell types, so it's neurological cells, muscle cells, etc., And then you can use those cells to do disease modeling, try to develop vaccines. There's a number of different things you can try to do with those. But the key thing that I want to stress is that we have not been able to, we go into it the series, but we'll go too, too much into the complex science here. but we have not been able to make any medical advancements with embryonic stem cells. We have with adult stem cells, but not with embryonic stem cells. And there's a number of reasons for that, one of which is that they're incredibly chaotic and don't really merge very well with adult cells. And we can't control them and we can't reproduce them as easily, but regardless. When you take embryonic stem cells out of an embryo, it necessarily kills the embryo. And so you can grow out these stem cells, multiply them for decades, theoretically. And they've done this with, you know, aborted babies' cells as well. He's growing them out, and those are called cell lines. And it's the face of aborted fetuses. That would be fetal cell lines. you can use those cell lines to get vaccines and do other research with those. And so that's, yeah, one of the main things that we're looking at. But then there's also a lot of cutting edge technology, such as CRISPR and germline editing, which is taking the genes in these cells from embryonic cells that are either donated or there are embryos that are created in labs through donor gametes for the purposes of scientific experimentation. They will never be adopted. They will never be gestated. And so in either way that you procure those embryos, you can take those cells and then you edit some genes to CRISPR. And they've tried to be doing this to create ways that you can potentially cure cancer, all of these different genetic issues they want to be able to fix, of course. In order to try to make medical advancements, you need to do research, and that is where the justification for this research on human embryos comes into play. Yeah, please go.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Check out the Center for American Values. That website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. The center is located in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there were four living Medal of Honor recipients that lived at the same time there. The center is co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient, for actions he took during the Vietnam War and Brad Padula. an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker, and they're doing all kinds of great things. There will be a wonderful On Values event on the 16th of April. Check all that out at AmericanValuesCenter.org. The center is nonpartisan, nonpolitical, focusing on these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Talking with Savannah Crossfield. If you have a question for her, 303-477-5600. The text line is 720-605-0647. And Savannah, this in vitro fertilization, IVF, it is a miracle. It certainly has been used for families that have wanted children and could not have children. It's been that blessing. But there's this other side, these ethical questions. And so I think the overriding question is, we as humans, how do we answer this ethical question? Now, I know that having them frozen and using them for scientific research, there will be those that say, well, these embryos don't have a heartbeat, so they're not a human yet. What would you say to that, Savannah Crossfield?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, of course. I would say that there has been Science has shown since the beginning of embryology since we've been able to study life and this very then the very beginning stages, we have proven that an embryo is a genetically unique.
SPEAKER 08 :
organism of course the human organism so so question just a quick question every one of those embryos same sperm same egg is and i think i know the answer i know this is set up but i think it's important to to confirm that but each of them are genetically different yes and just as because they are siblings are genetically different even though they have the same genetic parents
SPEAKER 04 :
And so, like I also talked about, embryos are incredibly complex. They're not just a cluster of basic, simple cells. They're dividing at an incredible rate and differentiating their different cell types, cells like neurologically embryonic precursor cells, embryonic cells, and skin cells, and all these different types. And the other thing that is important to note is that every single adult or baby that's been born, et cetera, all of them were once an embryo. And it's simply, and scientific textbooks will explain this, and if you pull, there's a poll that pulled scientists all around the world from different cultures, ideologies, religions, et cetera, and 95% of them agree that A human life starts at the moment of conception or the moment of fertilization, which is less than a nanosecond long, an instant. And then from that moment, you have a genetically unique individual human being that is given the right environment, just as you or I are given the right environment to continue to develop and live. These embryos will continue to develop and live And if the odds of their survival are on their side, then they will continue to develop and then eventually become an adult, just as any other individual on their given stage of development would. And so that is one of the key reasons that we actually look into the ethics of in vitro fertilization. If each embryo or just a sperm or an egg not just a cell, not a genetically unique individual, just cells of the mom, cells of the dad, then we would not be looking into the ethics of this procedure because we wouldn't be talking about individual human blood.
SPEAKER 08 :
So is the answer that we stop IVF?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, so our series seeks just to talk about all of the ethical issues that we need to, as a society, look at since we are doing all of these to, of course, non-consenting, individual, unique humans. But I think that because we cannot separate the extreme risk of loss of life to each individual human life and each individual embryo then it's incredibly difficult, especially in the US with the lack of regulation we have on the number of embryos that you can create any given IVF cycle. Other countries have plenty of regulations. In France, you can make very few. But in the US, you can make as many as biologically possible, as many eggs that will fertilize that you have. And that just means that we're going to have an incredibly high loss of life, high embryo attrition rates. And it's really, really important to consider as a personal choice for parents who are in the situation where they're considering IVF. Much better, of course, to be informed rather than to go into it blind. And that's what we really want to address is being informed as parents make these decisions for your children for the next generation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Boy, that is so important. And Savannah Crossfield, first of all, you can find this cradled in glass at luciditypictures.com. And, of course, going to Psalm 139, 1318, for you created my inmost being. You knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully. and wonderfully made. I think that is so important that each human being understand that they are unique, they are precious, they're treasured, and they are wonderfully and fearfully made. Your final thoughts, Savannah, we've got a minute.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so I think that We would definitely appreciate anyone who is interested in learning more about this topic and to follow what we're doing to go to luciditypictures.com. So that's L-U-C-I-D-I-T-Y pictures.com. We have a blog that comes out with a post every week. about behind the scenes, about production, where we're going when we're traveling across the U.S., and who we're interviewing, and all these different interviews that we're doing with experts in the field, people from all different perspectives, and then, of course, people who themselves have gone through IVF or related issues. And so we would love you to sign up for our email list and to monitor what we're doing and support us. And you can reach out to me with any questions at scrossfields at luciditypictures.com. So that's scrossfields at luciditypictures.com.
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3/29/25: Davis Tent & Custom Ear Solutions Today’s Guests: Will Marquardt, Owner of Davis Tent is with us to talk about al their amazing products. Check out the Davis Tent website at www.davistent.com. We also welcome back Dr. Melissa Fling with Custom Ear Solutions, she is our amazing Audiologist, to talk about their services and the importance of the proper hearing protection in the outdoors. Check out the website at www.customearsolutions.com. Today’s show is brought to you by the Mile High Hunt & Fish Expo April 11-13 at the Gaylord Rockies Resort & Convention Center. Go to www.MileHighHuntExpo.com for tickets and Event details. Use Promo Code SOCR2025 for Gen Admission tickets. Download the KLZ 560 App to listen live. The Sportsman Of Colorado Radio Podcast on www.SportsmanofColorado.com is sponsored by www.DavisTent.com.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us today. We are glad you are with us. We've got a great show in store for you. And, hey, we are coming to you live, actually. In all transparency, we're pre-recording this. But, hey, I wanted to come over and see our good buddy Will Marquart, owner of Davis Tent. So we're coming to you live from the world headquarters here of Davis Tent over here in Denver off of Broadway. Will, good to see you. Thanks for having us out.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, it's awesome, man. Great to have you here. Fun to be in our own environment and hearing those sewing machines making tents in the background.
SPEAKER 04 :
Man, I tell you, you were busy with an appointment when I first got here, and I walked around there, and I was just watching that for a few minutes.
SPEAKER 1 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is quite the view just to see them know what they're doing and so efficient moving their hands around on those big sewing machines, man.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're world class. That is for dang sure. It's so fun. I mean, almost anybody that comes in here just loves to stand there for a minute and watch it make intense. Because, you know, if you don't run a sewing machine or aren't around a sewing shop, it's all just kind of a mystery. Sure. How does all this stuff actually come together and look perfect? Walk us through the process.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean... When you get the materials in, what do you get in? Just big rolls of canvas, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
So on a roll of canvas that we use, we have it rolled bigger than most. I guess it would be 200-yard rolls. So, man, I'm trying to think of how big that is. Here, I could show you with my arms, but nobody can see it on the radio. Yeah. Maybe about 16, 18 inches, you know, diameter, I suppose. And that goes from a pallet that's going to have maybe 1,200, 1,500 yards of material on it, so figure seven rolls. onto a device that feeds the auto cutter so think of like the cutter for our material is like a cnc machine right people know what those are for steel well this is like a cnc machine it has a cutter on it it has a marker on it and it has a drill on it there's a specific reason why we use drills and sewing that I won't get into but it does all those things uh and on in each individual panel that's about 60 inches wide and then uh they take all those panels and kind of wrap them up into that's one tent along with that order and so every order is like its own little production piece and that goes to what we call the seamer And they have a double needle sewing machine that puts together the different panels. And when that person is done, you've got the front of a tent, the back of a tent, and what we call the roof of the tent, which is the roof and the walls. And then that goes to what you were talking about and what you were seeing, which is the sewers. And they're sewing that entire tent together at their station. They're putting windows in, Colorado doors, eaves sleeves, and all those things because it would all be on their order. And when they're done, it goes to quality control and grommeting, and then it's folded up and heads on out the door.
SPEAKER 09 :
Man.
SPEAKER 12 :
Easy peasy.
SPEAKER 04 :
So when you get all the different, when I look at just all you've got in a tent and the different type cuts that have to be made, is that all computerized in the cuts? Yeah. Just making the sides and top and all that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so even up until, let me see, 21, May of 21. So even up until four years ago, it was all done by hand. Three years ago, all by hand. But that's when we automated everything. So everything that we make, every tent, every bedroll, every bag actually has a CAD program associated with it. And so the person running the CAD table pulls up that, or the cutting table pulls up that CAD program, programs that one in, tells the machine to do this next, and the material automatically pulls and cuts and drills and marks and does all kinds of cool stuff. Cool. It is.
SPEAKER 04 :
But once again, you may hear little noise over now and then. We are coming to you from the shop. Hey, over here, it's 4230 Broadway. And check out the website, davistent.com. Now, around the corner, the Mile High Hunt and Fish Expo. We are super excited about this. It's April 11th through the 13th. Go to milehighhuntexpo.com for all the information and events, and you can get your general admission tickets there. Now, real quick, let me just explain. There are some evening events on Friday and Saturday night. Those are separate ticketed items. This promo code... We'll help you out a few dollars on your general admission ticket purchase. So if you'll put in an SOCR for Sportsman of Colorado Radio 2025, SOCR 2025 on your general admission ticket purchase, hey, you'll get a few dollars off of each ticket you purchase there. The individual evening tickets, you just have to get those separately. But I'm telling you, it's going to be a great night, Friday night, a casino night. type theme, and then our big sit-down banquet, live auctions, and both of these. And it is going to be spectacular. We hope that you will be there, and Will and his crew will be there as well, which it's hard to believe probably from January through now, show season. Will this be your last?
SPEAKER 12 :
Big show. Yeah, this is it, boy. I mean, yeah, we've been doing them since January. So here we are. And two weeks from now, middle April, we'll be done with the show at the Mile High. So it's a great show. I'm super excited to have that show here in Colorado. I think it's kind of a new day dawning as far as sports shows in Denver and Colorado. And they're really doing a great job, you know, building something there. Hey. I thought about this when you were talking about the show. It's probably important for people to consider buying those tickets for the evening events ahead of time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 12 :
Because I know they sold out last year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we did, and there was a lot of people disappointed. They didn't realize they were going to be under such demand. Because we can only put so many people in a room. I mean, a lot of these hotels have different capacities, and so... They do really go quick. Hey, maybe if you're looking at a table, maybe you want to bring a crew from work or family, whatever. And I'm telling you, this is a great family event. And it's at the Gaylord. All right. So, hey, if you've been out there, you understand. If you haven't been out there, you need to. It is an absolute beautiful facility. Now, last year when we were there, they were actually doing a bunch of remodeling. All that's finished now. And so it is an absolutely beautiful hotel, but that is a great suggestion from Will, is get those event tickets for those evenings now. And a lot of calling contests. We'll hit on some more of this stuff next week, but we just wanted to mention that real quick, and Will will be there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, the Casino Night, you know, is brand new. The Friday night that's sponsored by Howell for Wildlife. And so that'll be a great event, great money-raising event for wildlife here in Colorado. And, yeah, we'll be donating some things to that. So come on out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, good deal. Now, this also wraps up, meaning the end of show season, also wraps up some of the show specials that you offer. And, you know, folks here, you see a lot of... prices and games played with prices. A lot of different stores with 30 off, 40 off, all these different deals. All right. Will, I mean, they have a fantastic prices here for the quality you get. I mean, their prices are their prices, all right, all year long. This is the only time you will see these prices. I'm safe in saying that, right, Will?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely. In fact, on our, you know, really our flagship tent, the 14x15, $326 off. We've never done that kind of a discount on a tent. So this is the time. If you need a tent this year, try to figure out how not to wait to September or August. Try to figure out how to do it now because in September and August, you're paying full price.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right now, you're going to get a great deal.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's 22% off. It's a huge discount. 14 by 10, that's what a lot of people know as a cook shack, but still just a great tent in general. 22% off, again, that's $199 off. So we're talking about, what, that 14 by 15 for $1,099, that 14 by 10. I think that makes it $799. These are phenomenal prices for wall tents. A lot of people say we make a great product. I like to think so. We can also compete. You look at our prices next to others. I don't care where the tent's made. We're there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, absolutely. Any other few items you want to mention?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, for sure. We have a Royal Throne will be 10% off at the show. Cowboy bedrolls are 10% off at the show. And a sleeping bag cover, which we started to make a couple years ago and just keeps gaining popularity because it's just a great thing to use inside a tent to keep your... People are sitting on cots, and they're sleeping bags, and the sleeping bag cover kind of protects it. That's 20% off at the show. So we've got a bunch of good deals.
SPEAKER 04 :
So that Royal Throne, you remember that picture I showed you a couple years ago when I went on that hunt? I do. I do, too. We rode horses up, and a man got up there, and the guy said, you just go to follow this trail and follow the corner. And I walked up. They had like this old toilet seat thing on a buck. And I mean, just... In the elements. Hey, we all realize what that means, okay? But, man, how nice would it have been to have that just around you because, boy, you get up at 2 in the morning, whatever, or any time. But, man, it just would have made that so nice.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that was kind of insane, and I don't know if you remember. I was out on a hunt almost or just before that. This is a customer of mine, an outfitter who's really a good outfitter. But I got out to this camp. And they had a tree with some logs leaning up against it and an old blue tarp that was ripped up and blown in the wind around their little latrine area. And I'm not even going to say his name because some of you might know him. But I'm like, hey, bud, you got a great setup here. And all of a sudden I'm looking at this and going, come on, man. And so kudos to him. He bought, I think, six of them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Last year at the show. Oh, did he? Yeah. To get him out of his camps. Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good for him. That's cool. If you're just joining us, Will Marquardt is with us. He is the owner of Davis Tent, 4230 Broadway, davistent.com. And we're actually out on location here doing our interview with Will today. When you look, I mean, and you, you know, look at other tents that are made across the U.S., what are a few things you really feel set you guys apart?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I think, you know, first of all, we always have kind of built our core around the Sunforger treatment of canvas. A lot of people think Sunforger is a canvas. It's not. It's a treatment. So you have to start out with a really high-grade canvas, and we start out with the highest-grade 10-ounce canvas. But then we have the Sunforger treatment put on, which is a treatment put on in the United States, so... You know, I'm not necessarily and you might not necessarily be the biggest fan of some of the regulatory systems we have in the United States. But, you know, when it comes to health and safety issue around chemicals and how they impact our environment, I think that's super important. And so to have that done in the United States, Sunforger, thought of as the number one treatment in the world, that's pretty neat. And that's really core to what we've always done. We've always also tried to make sure that people understand that, look, yeah, I mean, if you go out on all the forums and people say really nice things about Davis 10, and I'm grateful for that. But also... Look, in some cases you might pay a little bit more for a Davis tent. I can tell you in a ton of places or a ton of situations you'd pay less for a Davis tent. We're right there playing in the price game, too. We have, I think, what's the most efficient production facility maybe in the world, certainly in the United States or Canvas. And, you know, I'm pretty proud of that, and it's really an important part of what we do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I heard her saying years ago, man, I mean, this is back in the 70s, and for me to remember it, Is I wrong? It's crazy. But it's that the bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low prices forgotten.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think there's several variations of that, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
But I'm telling you, I mean, you think about times, oh, I bought this because it was cheaper. Then you get out and it does not perform like you needed it to perform. Then it's like, man, you'd write a check right now for that difference you were hoping to spend to have that quality.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, you know, I just talked to a guy today, and I have all these, you know, my little thing that I love to say to people is they say, oh, I've got a Davis tent, and it's 14 years old. And I always say, oh, it's just a teenager. But, you know, because it is fun to see that kind of quality, you know, really last for guys. But it's fun also for me to hear guys, like I heard from somebody just today that I think he bought his tent five years ago, and he was just saying how happy he was. Yeah. You know, how it's held up in all these different conditions. And, you know, those are always fun things to hear and say. And we're trying to do things around here just as good as we did them around here 20 years ago. And that's a lot to uphold. And it takes a really great group of people and a commitment to that. But... It's also pretty cool to talk to people every day that are happy. Sure. And some of them you haven't ever talked to because they bought online or whatever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And it's like, oh, I love your products. It's like, wow, that's neat. Yeah, that's cool.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that is cool. You know, hey, you're an owner and you're face-to-face with these customers. It shows. I mean, I've been with you at a few of those, man. And that's what you hear over and over, you know. I mean – I've never heard anybody come up and go, man, I bought a Davis 10. It just sucked. It was not what I wanted. Do you know what I mean? I mean, never. I mean, you'll see things, like you say, 20 years ago, 25 years, that it's still performing well.
SPEAKER 12 :
I love shows for that reason, not only because it always makes you feel good, like that kind of thing, but also, like, you know, last year we rolled out our single-shot 10, and we sold that 10 out at the Northwest Sportsman Show, and we sold that 10 out at the Central Oregon Sportsman Show. We might have sold it out here. I don't remember specifically. But I haven't done this show yet this year. But I've done those other shows again. And I talked to four or five or six of the people that bought those tents. One guy, this is just a tiny little tent. One guy spent three weeks in it this last fall. I mean, but all of them, you know, were happy with it, which is awesome. But that's what I don't really know. I mean, they've collectively spent a lot more time than I ever spent in those tents, which is super cool.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Once again, if you're just joining us, we are coming to you live from Davis Tent, 4230 Broadway in Denver. Now, you recently built something that's kind of cool, too. I don't know, I call it kind of a little garage thing. You can park an ATV, a shed.
SPEAKER 12 :
Tell us about that. Yeah, yeah, the shed is a cool product because it's got so many usages. So I'll just give you an example. Just being up recently at the Northwest Sportsman Show in Portland, the first one we sold was to a longtime customer. I know his first name was Daryl, and he horse packs. And he bought it as a tack tent. So he's going to use half of it to put his hay in and half of it for a couple of saddle stands. And that's one of the things that we had saw, you know, it being a great fit for. But we also think that people will use it to store wood in or just gear in next to their wall tent. People will use it in their backyard to put their lawnmower in or their ATV in. You know, it's awesome for that. And we think there'll probably be a really big market for it among RVers because those of you out there that have RVs know that there's, you know, when the weather gets bad, there's no place to put your stuff other than under your RV. Right. And so this is, you know, that utility shed. $399 including the angles for it. Pretty cool product. By the way, probably important to say it's not canvas. It's made out of a poly material. I don't think you said that, but I just want people to know that. Which is actually... for this kind of product better, because for one, it lets a lot of natural light through. For two, it's not going to mildew, you know, if it's a little bit wet some of the time, and that's going to happen with this, you know, like if you accidentally stored it wet for a while, it's going to be fine.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, yeah, it's a poly product.
SPEAKER 04 :
You mentioned that. I was going to go there next. Mildew and different things like that made me think about, give us some tips on... You've had it out for two weeks. Now you're fixing to pack it all up. What's the proper way to clean, store? What should we do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, the number one, one of the questions I get, I don't know if it's number one, but one of the questions I get asked all the time is how do I clean my tent? And I think it's important to know that most tents get dirty when you're picking up your stuff because you've been walking around there. It's probably muddy, wet, and so on and so forth. And so If you just had your tent up, it's probably not that dirty from standing there. And a lot of times it's drier or cleaner when you're setting up, so that didn't make it dirty. So it's taking it down. So I would go out and spend $30 or so on a blue tarp bigger than the tent. throw that blue tarp down right next to the tent. So when you drop the tent, you're going to pull it right out of that blue tarp and you're never going to spend a bunch of time cleaning your tent. And that's easier, cheaper to do than buying things to clean your tent and taking the time to do it. So that'd be number one. And, you know, beyond that, For most people, and it depends a little bit on where you're listening, but here in Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico, Utah, wherever your reach for this station probably is, we're pretty lucky because it's such low humidity area that as long as we dry it out, we want it dry when it's rolled up ultimately. So you can take it back. You don't have to have your tent dry when you originally take it out of the field, but, you know, you should set it out to dry within a few days. That would be best practices. Get it good and dry, and you can store it almost anywhere except for, like, I wouldn't put it directly on untreated concrete because any product like that could potentially suck moisture out. out of the ground or out of the concrete. So, yeah, it's a pretty simple process. You know, like if you happen to be listening to this and you actually live in a high humidity area like the northwest or much of the east of the country, I always recommend that those people store their tents in a climate-controlled room. situation because there's so much humidity that I just don't want anything bad to happen in an air conditioner house. Climate control should be a lot drier in there than the 80 or 90 percent humidity that it might be in your garage.
SPEAKER 04 :
Once again, if you're just joining us and you hear maybe a few sounds you don't normally hear when we're in the studio, we are coming to you live from the world headquarters here of Davis Tent at 4230 Broadway. It's just right off 38.25 area here in And if you've never been by, you ought to come by, take a look through, just kind of see the shop, see a few of the tents they've got here. And a great crew here with Chris and Will and Taylor. Boy, they can help you out. And, Will, that's another thing, man. When I say infield experience, that's an understatement with the team here at Davis Tent.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
You guys know what's happening, don't they?
SPEAKER 12 :
They do, yeah. And, you know, when you're talking about collectively thousands of nights in wall tents, you know, that means that, let's say you spent a thousand nights in wall tents, which I've done-ish, you had ten nights that really sucked and you wonder if you're going to live through them kind of thing. Yeah. That just happens. You must have been with me the 10 nights, Sam, because I've had a few of those. Maybe yours were all in a row. But, you know, you just get – you also spend time in a wall tent because it's raining outside or whatever, and you just get a lot of time to consider what you're doing and how you're doing it. And, you know, also we just have so many experiences with people telling us what they do and, you know, just understanding how people sort of use their products that – Yeah, we are – it would be a true statement to say we are a wealth of knowledge when it comes to Waltons.
SPEAKER 04 :
Any tips you got? You know, let's say – especially folks that buy their first – tent from you and they get out to set it up. Any few questions you seem to get a lot to help folks out there?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well one thing I would say is that a good thing to do would be to remember that we have a lot of videos online whether you're on our website or our YouTube page so that's a really great place. I mean you might download some specific videos on setup or maybe tent folding because it's always good to have that when you're in the field. But, you know, the big thing is to get your tent out before you're going to use it in the field. I don't care if it's in your backyard or wherever, just to have a chance to set it up. Because in the event that you don't understand something... In the unlikely event that we did something wrong, like, you know, who knows what that would be, but maybe you got a wrong angle or something like that in your tent, that's the time to deal with it before you're going hunting. Now, fortunately, we get those things right pretty much all the time. Sure. But still, you learn things by just putting tents together. Like, for instance, when we send you your tent, your ropes are not tied on. They're deep inside your tent. They're all cut to size. Tensioners are installed. They're all set to tie on. But, you know, that's going to take you 20 minutes or better to tie those ropes on. That, you know, when you get out to set it up in a field, maybe it's, you know, maybe something happened at work and you're late and it's dark. Maybe the weather stinks. Well, that's a really crappy time to be tying on guy lines, you know, and maybe you wouldn't do it. And I don't, then that's not going to be as safe and it's not going to be optimal for the tent. And so I would just, you know. Have your buddy over, buddies over, if you can, that you're going out with, and have a dry run. And I think that's just going to take care of all the base problems. Because maybe you'll say, oh, this is weird. I have 10-inch stakes and I have 12-inch stakes. What do I do with these? Well, a dry run might have that question answered for you. Sure, sure, sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because, man, they're so cool. I've been around you a few times with different things. You've set up tents, and man, they're so perfect. And I think back to times when I went with my dad and son. Our tent never looked like that, and a lot of it was. You get there at night, and maybe it is raining, and you're just trying to get something over your head real quick, and son, it just looked like...
SPEAKER 12 :
I know. And you never know. I mean, you know, a lot of times that wind comes out of nowhere when you're in Colorado, right? I mean, all of a sudden it's like, holy mackerel. Well, you know, we can make you a great tent. We can help you get the frame that you need right for your tent. But we can't set it up for you in the field. So that's your part of it. And that's really going to be important to ultimately hold everything together and be safe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. What are a few of your top accessories you want to mention?
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, I always tell people at shows, probably just because it sounds funny, our top accessory by volume would be our orange hooks. Just because they're used for lanterns and hats and drying clothes is the main thing. You know, you can put them right up a rafter next to your stove and individually dry the pants and the coats and so on. So, you know, otherwise you're running a wire and everything sags and it runs together and not everything dries properly. So those orange hooks, you know, people buy four or five of them and come back the next year and buy four or five more or maybe come back the next year and buy four or five more. I mean, it's just one of those things that you're just not going to have too many of. And if you do, your buddy could use some for sure because they're just always a usage for them. organizers are always a really you know top accessory we make a two row a three row a large organizer rifle organizer we make a little gear loft too that's kind of neat uh well in fact we roll out a spice organizer this year oh really yeah yeah so organizers always top accessories and uh our sleeping bag cover is an awesome product i mentioned it before There's nobody in the world that doesn't like our sleeping pad. I mean, that is 3-inch foam that's a high-density foam, super comfortable to sleep on. I mean, kind of an unbelievable product in today's world to be $109. It's got a cover on it that zips off, so if you ever get the cover dirty, which you will if you use it, just zip it off, throw it in the wash, wash it. Let it dry. Put it back on. You're good to go. So I can't even think of... I mean, I'm sure there's others out there, but I can't even think of who makes a cover for a sleeping pad that goes on and off.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I've never seen one for you.
SPEAKER 12 :
But it's super practical, and it's the kind of thing that you do, that we would do, because... We know what happens. Sure. I mean, we've spent so much time doing that kind of thing. But I'm telling you what, I don't care if you have one of our tents or not. If you sleep outside or sleep on something that's not your own bed, you'd like our sleeping pad, period. Absolutely, absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Anything we forgot?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I just want to say real quick, we're going to have a big announcement at the sports show about our Gotent. So one thing I will say about it is our 10x10 Gotent has been a product for us for several years now, and it's been a good product. We're rolling out a 12 by 12 go tent. That's been the number one request for the go tent is to put out a bigger one. So we are going a little bit bigger. But we have a huge announcement of this show that's going to impact pricing. And I think it's going to blow you out of the water. So come by and see us and we'll tell you about it and hand you a brochure on it. We're going to do some things that will surprise you and will probably surprise some of our Chinese competitors.
SPEAKER 04 :
We'll be doing a live show from the Mahi Hunt and Fish Expo. Now, we're going to be taking our haystack time on Friday. So that show will be noon to 1. Our regular Saturday show we'll do live from the Mile High Hunt Expo will be 1 to 2. But on Friday, we'll announce that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sounds good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that good? Yeah, absolutely. I always like breaking news.
SPEAKER 12 :
Let's do it, man. I love it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, Will, thanks, man. And, man, thank you guys for all you do. You know, I don't have time to get into, man, all the help you did with Prop 127 and just, you know, when you're a business guy and you've got a business to run and you devote as many hours – Night and day to that. But I'll tell you, because of your help, man, I believe we were successful there, you and your team. So thank you for all you do, for all the – we were talking earlier, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, your big support of them and things you donate there for theirs. So just thank you for all you do for the outdoors here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thanks. It's our pleasure to do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
We appreciate it. You're listening to Sportsman of Colorado. Get on out to Davis Tent now. They are at 4230 Broadway. Check out the website, davistent.com. Now's the time to take advantage of these show specials. I promise you, you won't see these prices again. Save big and save now at Davis Tent. This is Sportsman of Colorado Radio. We've got to take a quick break. We'll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for being with us. Well, it's always great for you to have Dr. Melissa Fling with us. She is with Custom Ear Solutions. Not with, but owns Custom Ear Solutions. Check out the website, customearsolutions.com. Her number, 720-839-7705. And she is our exclusive hearing audiologist specialist here for us at Haystack Help Radio in Sportsman of Colorado. So welcome. Melissa, good to see you. How are you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Good to see you, too. I'm doing great. I want to just make an announcement that my website right now is very elementary. It's just a landing page. It gives basic information, and I'm in the process of upgrading it to a far more sophisticated, informative website.
SPEAKER 04 :
And her office is, I sort of say, conveniently located. I guess that's where you live and where you're listening from, but kind of here in the Denver Tech Center, and so extremely easy to get to. So when we talk about making an appointment for getting a hearing test or maybe checking out some of her custom ear solutions, we'll call them, for ear protection, hey, she'll be glad to help you. And as I mentioned, her number is 720-839-7705. You know, Melissa, when we talk about the custom ear solutions, there are some real benefits to that word custom. Yes. You know? Yeah. And I was doing a little research here just before you came in today, but there are several things. And I mean, you know, the number one thing is just when you say custom, what's that mean? It's fit to you in your ear canal, right? Yes. Yes. All right. Not your ear hole, but I... So medically termed it last time. All right. Your ear canal.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're not the only one that I've heard say that it's okay. Yeah. Your ear canal. Yeah. It's custom fit, which is really important for people who have small ear canals, which hopefully you won't be upset with me for saying this, but you have small ear canals, very small. Um, and so hugely beneficial for those people because they can't even fit regular sized ear plugs into their ears and then they don't have good hearing protection because Or if they're wearing Bluetooth earbuds and the tip on it, even the smallest tip is still too big, their AirPods or their Bluetooth earbuds are falling out or they don't feel secure. So. That's one situation where custom is really a great option for you. Also, some people have unusually shaped ear canals. They have sharp curves, and that can cause the same problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can they differ one ear to the other?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, they can, yeah. Or some people have had surgery on their ears that changes the shape of the ear canal. So there's all different reasons why custom would be a better option for those people. And there are quite a few of those people. Not everybody has the average size straight ear canal. There's a lot of variability out there, and custom is usually better for them fit-wise. Sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
And when you say custom, I mean, naturally that's going to tell you that's going to be a good, snug fit.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
But also, they're going to be very comfortable. Yes. Because they fit properly. Yes. And you're not having to keep jacking with them trying to get them to stay in, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, right. And that can be another issue with foam earplugs because... They expand in the ear canal and they put pressure, which is good for hearing protection. But if you need to wear them for hours, it can cause soreness over time. And that is something about custom is because they're not exerting as much pressure on the ear canal, they won't cause soreness as much as a foam earplug would.
SPEAKER 04 :
Gotcha. And we've said this many times, especially when you're on the Sportsman Colorado show. You know, I go to ranges and I see people with these phone plugs that are laying there on the counter for a dollar, which is better than anything, better than nothing. Yes. But 99.9% of the people don't know how to put them in right. You know, I mean, I look over there and there could not be an eighth of an inch actually stuck in their ear. The whole thing's sticking outside their ear.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Yeah. I guess they're not, they're not trained how to do it. Most people aren't.
SPEAKER 04 :
I realize we're on radio. So walk us through the right way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Okay. So first what I do is I put it between my thumb and my index finger and I roll it down slowly because one kind of nitpicky point is you don't want any creases in the foam plug because once you put that in your ear, The crease will be there, and that might allow sound through. So you want to roll it so there's no creases in it. Roll it down as small as you can get it. Then you're going to pull your ear up and back. And what I kind of have to do, because I also have smaller ear canals, I have to literally massage it into my ear canal. So I'm pulling my ear up and down while I'm kind of massaging the plug in.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we're kind of talking about pulling the top of the ear and then up and then back to open that up as much as you can, correct?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, because everybody has some degree of a curve in their ear canal. So when you pull the ear up and back, it'll open it up wider and straighten the curve. So that'll allow you to get the foam earplug in deeper so that you get better protection. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the other thing that's going to give you then, if it's fitting right all the time, what's that going to give you? Consistent protection.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, that's exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's what you're looking for. Yes. All right. Let's see here. There was a couple other things here I wanted to touch on as we were going through our little list here. with yours and we'll touch on this because we've described them other shows but one one set of your uh your solutions is um if you still need to communicate with someone whether that's in a hunting scenario work scenario whatever uh but you want to stay away when that loud sound happens you can do that so that improves if you've got the maybe just the foam top and that's all you're using um you know sometimes you can't hear as well as you need to so there are situations people do need to
SPEAKER 06 :
hear communicate talk but then they want that protection when the loud sound happens right exactly and foam can provide too much protection sometimes and then you can't you're not aware of your surroundings or it muffles things so in that case where you need to be aware and communicate a filtered option would be best and those can be made they have universal fit um filtered options but i can also offer custom ear molds with filters in them okay yeah um how long would these last kind of i mean people take care of them and put them in the case you give whatever yeah i mean they'll last quite a while right my first pair of custom molds lasted 11 years before the fit started to change and that was probably more just my ears changing
SPEAKER 05 :
So our ears change?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, they do. Because, you know, there's gravity always pushing down on us. And that changes the way your ears sit. Cartilage breaks down very slowly with aging. So yeah, your ears will change over time. If you lose a lot of weight, your ears will change. So that will affect a custom fit as well. But yeah, mine lasted 11 years and that's when the fit didn't quite feel as snug. So I got a new pair then.
SPEAKER 04 :
And if we just start out and we recently went through your line, but basically you've got a, a solid block type of hearing protection that when someone, maybe they're just going to a range and shooting, they don't want to talk to anybody. They just looking for the ultimate protection. Those run approximately how much?
SPEAKER 06 :
Those are $160,000 for the pair.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, $160,000 for the pair. Again.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not bad, huh?
SPEAKER 04 :
Not bad. All right, because you know what's bad? You know what hearing aids cost today? Right. $8,000, $10,000, you know. So, I mean, to invest, you know, $125, folks, for the hearing test that Melissa does. And like I say, I've done this. I've gone through her whole process. Highly recommend it. She does a great job explaining everything to you. And if you haven't had one in a while, just go get one. All right. Hey, that'll give you a baseline to see what's going on. So as the next year, year or two passes, you kind of see what's going on with your hearing. So you got that. Then the next ones that I love hunting is the filter ones that, again, you can communicate, but then it will kind of shut down when the gunshot happens. What are those running?
SPEAKER 06 :
Those are 205 for the pair.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yeah. Again.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
For under 500 bucks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can get an ear test, pick a couple of these that may fit different needs for you and what you're going to be doing, activities you're going to be doing. And man, protect your ears.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Get the full preventive protective package. Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was looking at some of the activities that we have here on just who should use hearing protection. So last few minutes, I want to run through these. And it's so funny. It says musicians and concert goers. Again, I've mentioned this before. Dr. Coates in Dallas I do a show with. We were talking about hearing once, and he's a family doctor. And he said, man, we used to go to concerts, and if we didn't come out and our ears weren't ringing, And we didn't think that was a good concert. But now, at 50 years old, he regrets not having heard it. But these concerts and the musicians themselves, I mean, these can be some loud sounds, can't they?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. I had a friend, actually, that went to an alternative rock concert the other night. And I told him, are you going to wear your earplugs? Do you and your wife have earplugs to wear? And he's like, oh, yeah, I've got some foam earplugs I'll wear. And then I followed up with him after that concert and he did not wear his earplugs. And I said, were your ears ringing after? Yeah, they were, but not too long this time. And it's like, oh, please, please don't do that. That is a sign that your hearing has been damaged. And if you're, I hate to say it this way, but if you're lucky, it'll go away. Your ears will repair themselves. But some people, it doesn't go away. It's just not worth it if you can prevent it. I mean, it's not the worst thing that can happen to a person. But do you want to be stuck with this annoying noise in your ears for the rest of your life just because one night you didn't feel like wearing earplugs? You know, that's the way I see it. I just don't want people to have regret about it later.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure. Another category for folks, construction and industrial workers, and I'm telling you, if you've ever been around a construction site, there are a lot of loud sounds around that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, killer loud.
SPEAKER 04 :
Shooters and hunters, and again, you'll hear Melissa on our Sportsman Colorado show as well, but shooters and hunters. What happens when that gun goes off? What's that eardrum do? What's the reaction to an eardrum?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, well, it vibrates. It's vibrating all the time with any kind of sound that comes through it. But if it's loud enough, it can vibrate. it can actually rupture your eardrum. If it's loud enough, that would be, you have to be up to like 140 to 160 DB, which some firearms are that loud, but where the damage typically occurs is within the inner ear, the hearing organ, um, the, the very sensitive hearing organ and the, its components, um, they will be physically damaged by a loud sound wave that comes in. And sometimes the damage is just temporary. Sometimes it's permanent.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And then on a previous show, we talked about motorcyclists. If you're into race car driving, that would be a good fit too. But swimmers we brought up.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Big need there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. We kind of talked about how with cold water exposure or even cold air exposure, like if you go skiing and snowboarding, your ears are getting exposed to cold air a lot. But with a lot of cold water exposure, that can cause a condition called exostosis in the ear canals. And that's basically... bony growth in the ear canals that kind of protrude into your ear canal and when it gets bad enough it can close off your ear canal completely and cause hearing loss because of that so a good reason to wear plugs or molds in that case would be to prevent exostosis from happening. Um, because you don't want to have to have a surgery to get rid of that. That's a bummer. So that would be one reason. And also if you're into like water skiing, something that you, you might, there might be a risk of falling and slapping your head against the water. I've seen a lot of people that come in with ruptures in their eardrum because the water hit their eardrum so hard that it, it ripped the skin open. And that can heal, but sometimes it doesn't. So wearing swim molds would be good for that, too, to prevent that risk. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I mentioned this on a previous show, but Melissa will be with us at our Mile High Hunt and Fish Expo. That's April 11th through the 13th at the Gaylord Rockies Resort. And go to milehighhuntexpo.com for tickets and event details. But, hey, Melissa's going to be having some stuff there. And you can actually look in some people's ears while you're there and help them out a little bit right there, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll have a video camera to show people what the inside of their ears look like. I'm thinking about bringing my irrigator to flush wax out of people's ears. That might be, I'll have to figure that out with water and everything. But yeah, if you just want to stop by and see what your eardrums look like, there's no charge for that.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Hey, it's Custom Air Solutions, 720-839-7705. Hey, when you call Mitch and you heard her here on KLZ 560, we'd appreciate that as well. But, hey, folks, $125. Here's one thing I'd like to. Melissa's very transparent about pricing and all that. So, hey, $125. And, again, she is not into the selling of products. hearing aids and all. Now, if she decides that's what you need and you need to follow up with that, she certainly has great connections for that. So this isn't going to be maybe a deal where you've been to before and then all of a sudden they're trying to pressure you into buying a $10,000 hearing aid. That is not what's going to happen. at Custom Ear Solutions. All right, so go in and see her, get your hearing tested. Hey, let her show you some of these great custom ear solutions she has to protect your hearing. And hey, get on the offense here and protect your hearing. So Melissa, thanks for your time. We'll look forward to our visit next time. Thank you so much, Scott. And once again, just a reminder, Melissa will be with us at the Mile High Hunt and Fish Expo, April 11th through the 13th at the Gaylord Rockies Resort. You can go to milehighhuntexpo.com and see all about the event. Get your tickets. And real quick, let me explain again. There's general admission tickets. You can use a promo code SOCR, for Sportsman of Colorado Radio, SOCR2025. And that's going to get you a couple of bucks off your general admission tickets. Then there are some separate ticket events for the evening events there. We're having a casino night on Friday night. and then a nice sit-down live auction, really exciting time on Saturday night. And those are separate ticketed events. But hope you'll come. Make sure and stop by our booth as well, Sportsman of Colorado. I believe we're booth 719. And, hey, we'll take you over and let Melissa take a look at your ears real quick. So quick reminder now, if you miss our live show on Saturdays 1 to 2, catch us twice on Sundays. That's 8 to 9 a.m. and once again 7 to 8 p.m., on Sunday evening, and we thank you for being with us. Hope you have a great rest of your day and a great rest of your weekend.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I do know that, but I'm spacing it right now.
SPEAKER 12 :
I figured you guys would just, off the top of your head, throw that right out there.
SPEAKER 14 :
I can't believe I just said I'm spacing it, talking about aliens. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good movie, by the way. All right, we'll come back in a moment. We're going to do movies about sports. And by the way, as always, we're a little loosey-goosey on things. If it's a movie and there's even a sports scene in it and you want to throw that in, we don't care. There's plenty of them out there. And what I would also say is remember, what we think of as sports, there's others – that are also sports that you may not think of as being a sport right off the top of your head.
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Yeah, sports can be pretty broad.
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putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Myself, Andy, Charlie, and Richard, are you with us now? That I am. All right, before we do the first round, let's take John from Cheyenne. And John, you're up. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, thanks for letting me start it off, John. Sure. Bro, one quick thing. Andy, I'm disappointed you didn't have that right on the top of your head, the answer to today's question. I'm disappointed.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we were actually talking off air. There were two prominent guys who were involved in it. Got it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I won't say any more. Okay. John, before we move on, because I was thinking of you this week, and this is something that involves both Andy and Richard, so since you're all three here and I was – oh, come on, John, call us back. Hang on. Let me see if we can get him up here. There we go. John, are you there? Yeah, I'm here now. That's okay. Before we continue on here, because this is a football question I have for you, Andy, and Richard. Okay. And I'm not trying to be rude because I think he is an absolutely nice individual, although he has got to be the biggest football grifter known to mankind, and that is your new recruit you just brought in as quarterback to your team, the Giants, Russell Wilson.
SPEAKER 19 :
I think they wasted their money and their time on this guy. I don't understand why they're not— I think so, too.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sorry, that's just my opinion.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, let's keep in mind, for quarterback rating, he was 11th in the NFL last year when he played.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
I still don't—I also don't agree with their move.
SPEAKER 12 :
Richard, your thought.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm just saying, I'm trying to give the positive side.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, Richard, your thought.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's a cheap—
SPEAKER 20 :
He's guaranteed $10.5 million, and then Jameis is guaranteed $4 million, so it's like $14 million, and then they're likely going to bring in Shador, John, which we'll get to as we get closer. I think that Prime's son is your... your new quarterback or quarterback of the future. It's a cheap solution to right now because here's the deal, guys. That front office has to win this year. And so if the rookie quarterback that they draft they don't think can do it, then, Andy, like you said, I think Russ can come in and be an admirable starter and probably get you to .500.
SPEAKER 14 :
um you know jamis is a little bit more willy-nilly but i think russ can do that i think that's his sole purpose there is is to be the guy that if your rookie is not ready he can help you be a competitive football team yeah russ is just look he is a veteran who knows the game knows it well he's going to come in there for a year maybe two is they're grooming the next guy that's it this is not a big deal it's not look they're just dating they're not getting married it's nothing to worry about you talk about guy that knows how to work the system holy cow i mean if you're talking about bringing some guy in who you think is let's face it in the afterlife already for his career and they bring him in on a four-year contract for a hundred million then i'd worry yeah but they're not doing that i get it so i don't think it's too big of a deal all right i get it although i i will say uh richard i'm not entirely sure which buffalo is going to go to new york just seeing oh
SPEAKER 19 :
No, I looked at... Interesting. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, go ahead. Go ahead, John. No, I looked at it more. I was hoping that... And I don't think Russell Wilson is the same kind of quarterback that Kurt Warner was. I don't know if you guys remember.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
But the year the Giants drafted Eli, they had signed Kurt Warner to a one-year deal. And he started the season. And halfway through the season, the Giants were 3-5. And Coughlin went to him. and said, we've got to see what this kid has, and I'm going to have to start him the rest of the season. He started Eli the rest of the season. And Kurt Warner said, I'm here for the team, and he helped Eli that first season.
SPEAKER 14 :
Kurt Warner, though, is one of the classiest guys ever. Russell seems a little more high-strung, doesn't he, Richard?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that was my question. He just sucks as a leader, sorry. He does. He's awful.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. And that's why I was hoping if they were going to bring a veteran in and draft a rookie like Shador, they were going to bring one of those veterans in that would be willing to step down halfway through the season and say, all right, let's see what the rookie has.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what I mean? I don't see Russell enjoying that.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, movies. We can talk more about this in the future. Go for it, John. What are your movies?
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, I'm going to, because yesterday was opening day, we're going to go straight baseball. I have three of my top ten. You cannot have a top five baseball movie list because there's more than five. I'm going to go with three of my top ten. First one, Gary Cooper was nominated for the Academy Award for Pride of the Yankees. Yep. True story. Lou Gehrig, great movie. Second one, one of my favorite movies, The Natural.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, good one.
SPEAKER 19 :
And And then the last one, third one, and, John, if you haven't watched this with your grandkids yet, you need to, and that's The Sandlot.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, great movie. You're killing my list, John. It's on my list.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, those are three of the top ten baseball movies. I hope you guys find the rest of them. over the course of the show, guys.
SPEAKER 12 :
We'll name them off. Don't worry. John, appreciate you, man. Take care. Have a great rest of your evening. All right, Andy, take it away.
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Well, I always have to start with this one just because I love it so much. So we're going to go to the announcers from Dodgeball. Here we go.
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Time is out. It looks like the clock is about to strike midnight on this Cinderella story, turning average Joes into the proverbial pumpkin. I sure do like pumpkins, Cotton. I'm sorry. He's hilarious.
SPEAKER 14 :
It was so funny.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, there's a guy that can play numerous different roles. Oh, yeah. Very well.
SPEAKER 14 :
He can do anything.
SPEAKER 12 :
He's always funny. From that to a cold killer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah, totally. He can be a stone cold killer, which, by the way, he was in a Netflix movie recently.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it was a great movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Okay. Richard, you're up. All right, Andy. But you can't top Dodgeball. I just want to warn you right now.
SPEAKER 20 :
No, you are correct. You can't top Dodgeball. And then we've got John listing off the litany of movies here, so my options are limited. I'm going to go with my favorite movie of all time, which is Remember the Titans. Yeah. And it's just up there.
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Richard, I purposely would never say Remember the Titans because I must leave it for you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I knew that too.
SPEAKER 14 :
It would be sacrilege.
SPEAKER 12 :
On here, yeah. It would be. I'm going to try to roll off a few that most people wouldn't think of as sports movies like Secretariat.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Horse racing.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's on my list. Okay, all right. Okay, we got to go to one just for John. Got to do this one, and this is from Major League. Here we go.
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Jabu. Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball. You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball? Okay, Harris, let's not start a holy war here. I wouldn't leave a rum sitting around out here with this group. It's very bad to steal Joe Boo's rum.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, I'll leave it at that. Very bad to steal Joe Boo's rum. That is classic. If you're talking about sports movies that I can see over and over and over, even Dodgeball is not Major League for me. I can watch Major League so many times.
SPEAKER 12 :
If it's on, I just keep watching it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
If I'm flipping through and it's on, I'll watch it.
SPEAKER 14 :
I love it so much. Richard, you've seen Major League, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
Of course I have, yes. Although, Andy, you can get my dad for this. I did not watch it with him. I had to watch that one of my own hubris because he was not a fan.
SPEAKER 14 :
He was a poor parent. I understand.
SPEAKER 20 :
I like it now. Poor parenting. All right. Richard, you're up. All right. I'm going to go with, again, animated. You may think it's not sports, but it is because it's racing, which is cars. Oh, yeah.
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That's on my list.
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that is on my list. What a great movie. Yeah. The first one especially, best of them all.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. Now, this movie is... In fact, I saw clips of it the other night, and I might actually watch this one here in the not-too-distant future. That's Trouble with the Curve.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. No, wait a minute. Was that Clint Eastwood?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Okay. That was Clint. He's the scout, the old scout. And then there's the younger gal. I can't remember what her name is. I think it's slipping my mind right now. Amy Adams. Yeah, Andy. Going against basically the other scouts and the coach who think that they've got it all figured out and they don't.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I just love Clint.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Here's one that I keep trying to get more people to watch. You've seen it. But the greatest game ever played. Here we go.
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He was a long shot. Oh, my gosh. That's President Taft.
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How you doing there, Mr. President?
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But he saw the game in ways no one could imagine.
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He has a God-given talent. He's just trying to make you proud.
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The man's a peasant. Peasants do not win opens.
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If Mr. Weimert wins tomorrow, it's because he's the best. Not because of whose father was. Not because of how much money he's got. Because of who he is! The greatest game ever played.
SPEAKER 14 :
Shia LaBeouf. I thought he was terrific.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know what's interesting? Yeah. When I watch that, and Richard, I think you could chime in on this. You look at the way those guys played golf back in the day with these, you know, what I would call inferior clubs compared to today. Wooden shafts, didn't have the grips we have today, didn't have the metallurgy even that we have today. The drivers weren't the same, and yet they could still play around a golf like no tomorrow.
SPEAKER 20 :
No, they could. It was a different game, a much more technical game back then versus today. They can make up for a lot of it. At the same time, no offense, Dad, but it's also partially why you don't really see amateurs, as they would say.
SPEAKER 12 :
make you know winning opens anymore it just doesn't happen it doesn't seem so really quick just for reference in the early 1900s it was uncommon to even see somebody hit a drive of you know 200 to 220 yards where now what are they richard 310 ish or so 300 310 yeah you're you're you're three you're you're 300 to 315 325 carry and then you obviously a roll after that so 100 yards more than what they were 100 years ago, roughly. Amazing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you know what? It's just like Richard and I, we're going to be doing the NFL draft here in a few weeks. Richard, just look at the size and speed of guys today go back 30 years. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's insane, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's insane.
SPEAKER 12 :
Unbelievable. And really quick, by the way, just as a side note for a lot of you listening, it wasn't even just shaft and club development. I was actually watching a video the other day. I think, Richard, I sent it to you about Titleist and how that ball was actually invented and the morphing of what they did throughout the years of going from even the rubber band type core to the solid core and what the ball did to even change the game itself.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, well, like I said, the technology, like I said, from the clubs to the ball. And now the biggest advancement is still the technology and the equipment, but the analytics, right? And it's safer to take this shot and make this read and do these things. I mean, it is. It is crazy, the advancements. But at the core of it, it's still the same game it was 100 years ago.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I think if you took some of these great players from 100 years ago and gave them today's balls and clubs, would they drive it 300 yards?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER 20 :
Richard, you're up. All right, I'm going to go with one that is slightly less family-friendly and not one I would advise watching with your wife or kids on any movie night, but one that all men must watch, which is The Program.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
I forgot about that one.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're right. That's not for kids. You're a bad father.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm going to call your kids and let them know what Daddy watches. Probably should. Good movie.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Only because it's at the top of my list and one of those movies also that when it's on, I can watch over and over again, Hoosiers.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh. Hoosiers is one of the greatest of all time. Here we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Forget about the crowds, the size of the school, their fancy uniforms, and remember what got you here. If you put your effort and concentration into playing to your potential, to be the best that you can be, I don't care what the scoreboard says at the end of the game, in my book, we're going to be winners.
SPEAKER 31 :
Let's win this and for all the small schools who never had a chance to get here. I love you guys.
SPEAKER 14 :
And we also play that in honor of Gene Hackman.
SPEAKER 12 :
Gene Hackman, who just passed recently.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. You know, that's one of those movies that is so good, and that's a five-star.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Whenever you see that movie, it's one of those that you're like, I keep forgetting how good this was. Because the story just pulls you along, pulls you along, and you have incredible performances throughout it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. All right, you're up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep, I'm up. And let's see here, because that pulled me off of my next one. Another one that was very touching and really drew you in, Talladega Nights. Here we go. Let's listen to some ads from Ricky Bobby.
SPEAKER 10 :
Fire safety week is right around the corner, and here are a few important tips you might want to listen to.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wrapping your kids a newspaper at bedtime sounds like a good idea. Keeps them warm. But guess what? That stuff's flammable.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, we've all run around with an empty milk jug full of gasoline and lit it in an open field. But make sure there's a parent close by.
SPEAKER 11 :
What's better than a nap? A nap with a cigarette. I know. I do it. If you're going to sleep in bed, make it a hammock. So if it lights on fire, you fall down and wake up.
SPEAKER 10 :
We've all wondered what gasoline tastes like. Don't drink it. Fire safety begins in your brain at home. Shoplifting's fun. We've all done it. But if you're going to steal fireworks, forget it.
SPEAKER 11 :
When them Chinese folks wrote on that label, light fuse and run away, they meant it. Get the heck out of there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Remember, stealing's not good, but if you're going to do it, don't steal fireworks. It's the law.
SPEAKER 12 :
So bad.
SPEAKER 14 :
I know. So bad. So wrong. And yet those are words lived by. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yes, Andy. Okay, similar racing, although slightly different movie, but we would be remiss if we didn't mention Tom Cruise in the movie, which is Days of Thunder.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. Are they going to remake that, by the way? There's rumors of that. Is that really going to happen?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I've heard rumors, but I've heard nothing solid.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. All right. My turn?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Friday Night Lights.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah. You know what? Every single one we've mentioned so far has been on my list.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, really?
SPEAKER 14 :
My list is shrinking fast. That's a good one. I better do this one really quick here. Here's Happy Gilmore.
SPEAKER 26 :
He's going to be on the tour. That's super. He's got the swing.
SPEAKER 30 :
He's a lady, boo!
SPEAKER 07 :
He's got the drive. He shoots, he scores! He's got the balls. Oh, God, that hurt a little, but I'm all right. Quite a large and economically diverse crowd here at Invitational. I guess it's the new tour sensation, Happy Gilmore.
SPEAKER 30 :
Hey, if I saw myself in clothes like those, I'd have to kick my own ass.
SPEAKER 07 :
And while he's trying to keep granny... That's so bad.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, what a funny movie.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, it's hilarious.
SPEAKER 14 :
And they're making a sequel. It's coming out this year, I believe. I think that's ill-advised, but hopefully they can pull it off.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, you're going to ruin the classic.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think you are.
SPEAKER 12 :
Leave it alone.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that's my opinion. What do you think, Richard? Richard? Richard. Richard. Richard.
SPEAKER 12 :
Are you there? Richard. Unmute us. Well, we may not take a break.
SPEAKER 14 :
Want to take a break?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I guess we can. Okay, let's do that. Richard, Richard, Richard. Okay, we'll be right back. We'll take a break. We'll come back. Fleshlock coming up next. 303-806-8886.
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SPEAKER 18 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. All right, Richard, your turn. Sorry, we might have some phone issues on our end, so it probably wasn't you, but go ahead.
SPEAKER 20 :
And I know Andy was making fun of me because that's just what he's doing. He's just mean. It's what I do, yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
It makes me feel better about me to talk down to you.
SPEAKER 20 :
I understand. Andy, I do have a question for you. What are your thoughts on Prime making more money as a coach than he ever did as a player?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm fine with it because I think, look what he's doing for the university and even the state. I think it's great. Good for him. And keep in mind, when he was a player, he didn't make what they're making today.
SPEAKER 20 :
What do you think? No, no. I mean, he did get paid pretty handily by the Cowboys and the Niners, too. But, yeah, it's nothing compared to these guys today. So, yeah, I mean, you've got to make it if you didn't make it then.
SPEAKER 14 :
In my opinion, he's still the greatest cornerback of all time.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, to answer your question, Andy, a moment ago, I was going to talk about this a little bit Tuesday, but since you just asked what I sent even to Richard earlier today, which you and I talk about all the time, Andy, is, you know what? When you bring value, this is a great lesson for any employee. When you bring value to the organization, guess what? They'll reward you. That's what happened in Boulder.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. And by the way, he is the opposite of... of the girl from Snow White.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Here's what I mean. She is a spectacular young talent. Spectacular.
SPEAKER 12 :
Not lacking there.
SPEAKER 14 :
But Dion off the field, he is the total package, right? He is the total package for the entire department, for everything at CU. What does she do off the field? She writes her movie. Go ahead, Richard. Great point.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I was going to say, he is bringing, again, I think they added this up, that it is phenomenal, the impact that he's making in the economy, right, local economy, the notoriety that CU is getting. But just the fact that it was not but four years ago that there were still regions up there that were questioning if CU should even have a football team.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 20 :
And now we are paying one of the top five highest paid.
SPEAKER 12 :
And you've got a bunch of lib regents to even agree to it. Go figure.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and some of those are gone, but they're still... Maybe they used... You know what I mean.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, no, no, no. I heard that they used Joe Biden's auto pen.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, there we go.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's how they got him to sign on.
SPEAKER 20 :
Wasn't that right, Richard? Whatever you got to do... There you go. ...is a long time coming. Some people are going to say, well, this is... I don't know. This guy hasn't won anything. They don't under... If he doesn't win a national championship, but he maintains what he's been doing over the past few years, it will still be... a resounding success and the best that they are saying that I think it's 20% out of state admissions are increased. over the past few years because of Deion. And for folks that don't know, it costs like 15, 20 grand to go in-state. I think it's like 50 out-of-state.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's a big chunk of change. I'll close with this. The reason I think it's great is this. I'm going to use another movie reference. Deion Sanders is the Tom Cruise of football. Not only is he great at everything he does, but it's impossible not to like him.
SPEAKER 12 :
Can't disagree, Andy.
SPEAKER 20 :
And, Andy, whether you like him or not, you're still going to tune in to find out what happens, and that's all he cares about. He doesn't care if you hate him or hate his product or what he stands for or anything like that. But the fact that you're tuning in to, again, love him or hate him, you're still going to watch, and that's what matters.
SPEAKER 12 :
Who's up next?
SPEAKER 20 :
Richard.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's me, sorry.
SPEAKER 20 :
I got off on a tangent.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, you're fine.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm going to go with one a little bit different, but I've got to go with the Kevin Costner movie, which is sort of Bull Durham.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. In fact, the texter just said that again, so perfect. Perfect timing. There you go.
SPEAKER 20 :
Great movie.
SPEAKER 12 :
Which I'm going to dovetail into that, and since we're doing that, let's do Field of Dreams. Another movie that if it's on, I can watch. A little slow at times, but still a great movie. If you build it, they will come.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I mean, that was pretty incredible, don't you think? Field of Dreams, just the way they put that together. I was really surprised by it. Okay, here's one people don't think of when they think sports, but I do. Fighting with my family. Wrestling. Here we go.
SPEAKER 13 :
I have no idea who I'm supposed to be out there.
SPEAKER 21 :
You're not just doing this for you. You're doing it for the family.
SPEAKER 22 :
Paige, I myself have come from a wrestling family too. I know exactly what it means to you. But don't worry about being the next me. Be the first you. What? It's Dwayne Johnson. How are you? Prove it. If you smell what the rock is cooking.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I'm Vin Diesel, mate.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm sorry. I thought that was terrific.
SPEAKER 12 :
Great movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
I gave that a very big review. I gave it one of the very best movies of its year. Fighting with my family. Nobody's seen it.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a great movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. All right, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm going to go back to the Kevin Costner one because I was looking up and I almost said the wrong one. But for the love of the game, where he throws the perfect game as the Detroit Tigers pitcher. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Excellent. Forgot about that movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well done, sir.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Perfect. This one came from a texter, but I'll mention it since it's going right along that baseball theme. 42.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Jackie Robinson. Yeah, 42. Good one.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, this is another one that is always mentioned in the top five movies usually, and that's Rudy. Here we go. Rudy, Rudy.
SPEAKER 09 :
We're going to go inside. We're going to go outside, inside and outside. We're going to get him on the run, boys. Once we get him on the run, we're going to get him on the run. And then we're going to go, go, go, go, go, go. And we're not going to stop until we get across that goal line. This is a team they say is good. Well, I think we're better than them. They can't lick us. What do you say, man?
SPEAKER 12 :
Good movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, such a good movie.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know that's not a true story, though. What? Why? It's not a real story.
SPEAKER 20 :
Who cares?
SPEAKER 14 :
You act as if I care. I review over 100 movies a year. Do you think I care if it was a real story? It was a great movie. You're so harsh. You're so harsh.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's what makes... It's what makes Secretariat such a great movie.
SPEAKER 12 :
Is it real?
SPEAKER 20 :
Is the movie itself really well put together in production? Yeah, there's some good parts and stuff to it. But no, it's the fact that it's so good, it feels like it should be a fictional movie, but it's a real movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
See, Richard, this comes from the joyless childhood you had at the hands of John. You cannot appreciate these stories.
SPEAKER 20 :
At some point in time, I'm going to put my wife and you in the same room, and she can tell you all of the things that I was taken of as a child that she has to fix.
SPEAKER 12 :
Psychologically.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm an adult now.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, there we go. Thank you. Who's up?
SPEAKER 20 :
You're Richard.
SPEAKER 12 :
Me.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right. I can't believe, I don't think we've said this one, but in honor of my son and the Eagles, since he is such a large fan of the Eagles these days, Invincible with Mark Wahlberg. Yeah. That was a good movie.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it is a good movie, actually.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, there's another guy you can't not like.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's true.
SPEAKER 20 :
Go ahead, Richard. Good one. True story, and he's much better than that Rudy garbage.
SPEAKER 12 :
Speaking of a true story, they did the movie very well, by the way. Miracle.
SPEAKER 20 :
Do you have a clip or no? Yes, I do. Do you know that Walt hasn't seen Miracle? Oh, oh.
SPEAKER 14 :
Walt. I know. You need to text him right now. Sinner. You can file the papers and disown.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, sinner.
SPEAKER 14 :
You should. It's disgusting. Okay, if Walt's listening, listen to this.
SPEAKER 1 :
This is your time.
SPEAKER 17 :
Their time is done. It's over. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great hockey team the Soviets have. Screw them. This is your time. Now go out there and take it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Great movie. Just great. I mean, come on. Yeah, I can't believe Walt hasn't seen that. What a fabulous movie. And that was at a time, too, you need to remind him of kind of like the golf thing we were talking about. We were so under, how do I want to say this? When we were competing in the Olympics back then with the Soviets, we really did use amateur talent where the Soviets in a lot of other countries used what I consider to be professional talent. Right. We were really, quote-unquote, undermanned at that time, and to beat them was an absolute miracle. It was a miracle.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, for the next one, obviously a movie that's mentioned maybe the most, once again, is Rocky. However, instead of playing Rocky himself, I want to play a guy who was an incredible actor in that movie, and that's Burgess Meredith, who played Mickey. Here we go.
SPEAKER 28 :
People think little by little we lose our friends, we lose everything. We keep losing and losing until we say, you know, what the hell am I living around here for? I got no reason to go on. But with you, kid, boy, I got a reason to go on. And I'm going to stay alive. And I will watch you make good. And I'll never leave you. And I'll never leave you until that happens. Because... When I leave you, you'll not only know how to fight, you'll be able to take care of yourself outside the ring, too. Is that okay?
SPEAKER 26 :
It's okay.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
He was so good. I mean, he was incredible. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 20 :
Again, we should be doing more of that. Which, by the way, back to Coach Prime, that's exactly sort of what he is. And he's even said that he wants to prepare his kids and his – students more for life outside of football than inside. And if you're not doing that, you're doing it wrong. So again, all the more reason. I agree. All right. On the same rocky train, which you took my movie, Andy, but I'll just go the other way, which is Michael B. Jordan and Creed. Yeah. I like Michael B. Jordan.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. He's good. Oh, he is. Most people don't think of this being a sport, but it very much is. And that is the going as fast as you can on the salt flats. And they do it in all sorts of different machines, but the world's fastest Indian. Yeah. Great movie, by the way. And by the way. If you're a car person, even though it's not cars, it's motorcycles, if you've never seen that movie, you need to watch it.
SPEAKER 14 :
By the way, great actor.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely. Solid.
SPEAKER 14 :
Anthony Hopkins. Solid. Okay, we got to go to this one, Boys in the Boat. I just loved it. Have I gotten you to see this yet?
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah, it's a good movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, here we go.
SPEAKER 28 :
But they didn't understand who we were.
SPEAKER 14 :
The show was in this book.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't believe what I'm seeing.
SPEAKER 07 :
I suppose they're connected. What it's worth, I'm proud of you boys. Inspiring. You missed the part where I told him not to tip over. Roll for your country. Roll for each other.
SPEAKER 05 :
For all the people who never believed in you. I won. I won.
SPEAKER 14 :
And boy, did George Clooney do a great job directing that movie. Really good. Really good movie. That's one you can watch over and over. Richard, you're up. Which one? George Clooney did that one? Yeah. He directed it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, I had no idea. Uh-huh. He did a great job, I thought. There you go. Very much so. All right, Andy. You said Trouble with the Good. Did we do Moneyball? No, we did not.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's another good movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 20 :
Especially if it's on.
SPEAKER 14 :
If he's a great hitter, why doesn't he hit good, Richard?
SPEAKER 1 :
Right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Good one. I'm going to mention this one just because Andy had talked about it. He reviewed the movie, and I watched it, and it is a phenomenal movie. You wouldn't think it being a sports movie, but it is Young Woman and the Sea.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is a really good movie.
SPEAKER 12 :
Because she is a swimmer. I gave it Best Movie for last year. It's a fabulous movie. Richard, if you haven't seen it, it's worth watching. Yeah, you can watch it for free on Disney. And your kids would love it. It's a great movie. Yep. What is it? Young Woman and the Sea.
SPEAKER 14 :
With Daisy Ridley, who, by the way, is an underrated actress.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's about the first female to swim the English Channel.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wonderful.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's awesome. Great movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, another one that's a very intense drama. Here we go.
SPEAKER 09 :
You can do it! Cover Winkler in bees. You can do it! You can do it! You can do it!
SPEAKER 12 :
You can do it!
SPEAKER 30 :
You can do it all night long!
SPEAKER 05 :
Water boy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Water boy. I'm sorry, but I love Rod Schneider.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, he's great.
SPEAKER 14 :
He's just so funny. Okay, go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 12 :
Really quick, before you move on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Before you move on. Another Hollywood relationship where those two have been tight.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Forever and have what I would consider to be probably one of the best friendships on and off air of probably any Hollywood actors, actresses you'd ever see. Am I right?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, they do. By the way, that guy saying that is a Trump supporter.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, solid. Anyway, so I didn't want to throw that in. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 20 :
You know, we need to do, this is an idea here, Andy, for movies. We need to do, which is, we've done this before, but we need to do it again, which is we need to do movies that you can't make anymore.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, we haven't done that for a couple years. Yeah, that's a good idea.
SPEAKER 20 :
Or that they won't do anymore is probably the better way of saying it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
The first one that leads it always is Blazing Saddles.
SPEAKER 12 :
There's a lot.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good topic. We can do that. Okay. I just put it down. Go ahead, Richard. You're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right. Let's see here. Oh, again, not a movie. Again, I'm going to be a bad person that you can't mess with or whatever it is. I won't tell your kids. Yeah, you should. He Got Game. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't know that movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, that's about Jesus Shuttlesworth. Ray Allen.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Now this one, yeah, it's about sports. It's kind of the back end of sports and how kind of the money end of it works, and that was air. Michael Jordan.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good movie. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
I gave that four stars. I sent a clip to Richard and Walt earlier this week, and I don't know that people really understood when Michael Jordan was playing the game how good he actually was.
SPEAKER 14 :
He's the greatest ever.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't think anybody's even close to this day.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, when you look at what he did at both ends of the court.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and then I added to that, Richard, you will appreciate this, and I think you will as well, Andy. He didn't get by with a lot of the looseness of today's game in regards to traveling and double dribble that a lot of these guys get by with now. He did not do any of that and was still the best of all time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Although I will say when he drove the lane, he would get the call. But he deserved it. Yes. But anyway, okay. Shall I go? Yeah, go. You're up. Go ahead. This is pretty classic. This is right from the trailer. Here we go.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't have much of a cheering section. You got me.
SPEAKER 18 :
In the end, it will be in Daniel's hands. Karate Kid. And most of all, in his mind.
SPEAKER 31 :
Concentrate, focus, pause, remember balance.
SPEAKER 07 :
No mercy. Columbia Pictures presents The Karate Kid.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, what kind of belt do you have?
SPEAKER 08 :
Canvas. You like? That was a good movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
That was a great movie. Yeah. Wax on, wax off. I loved it. Yep. Now, that's way before your time, Richard. Did you ever see The Karate Kid?
SPEAKER 20 :
Of course, Andy. I was allowed to as a child because it taught me how to do my chores.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Wax on, wax off.
SPEAKER 14 :
See, for a second I thought John allowed joy in your childhood. Now you say it was to teach you chores.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 20 :
Andy, it was for a purpose.
SPEAKER 14 :
It was for child labor? For a purpose, yes. Okay, never mind. Go ahead. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, jeez. Yes. Amy, everything is for a purpose. Come on. You should know that.
SPEAKER 14 :
I do now.
SPEAKER 20 :
I can't believe we haven't said good old Bill Murray yet. Caddyshack.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. That's a good one on my list. Absolutely. It's in the cup. It's in the cup. Oh, jeez. There's so many on my list. Let's do Ford v. Ferrari. Got to. Awesome. One of the greatest movies ever. Racing.
SPEAKER 14 :
I tied it for best movie of the year.
SPEAKER 12 :
Fabulous movie. Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Here we go. A little music. Chariots of Fire. Chariots of Fire. Great song and a terrific movie. Really touching. Solid. There you go. Good job, Andy. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right here, Andy. Oh, jeez, hold on. I had my list pulled up. Oh, we haven't done Show Me the Money.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, Jerry Maguire on my list. Good one.
SPEAKER 20 :
And it's not a love story, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Don't even try. Well...
SPEAKER 12 :
Kind of.
SPEAKER 14 :
They put one in there, which I think is sacrilege, but yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
They should have just left that out.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. I feel that way. Just like they should have left it out of, you know, A lot of movies.
SPEAKER 12 :
But go ahead. Okay. Maybe it's not on my list. You guys just gave me an idea. What's the one with Costner? Oh, Draft Day. Draft Day.
SPEAKER 14 :
Draft Day. Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. Now, I've got more clips. We don't have time, so let me just jump to Varsity Blues.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, good movie.
SPEAKER 14 :
That was a fun movie. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, very good movie, Andy. Let's see here. Oh, that was right on my list. Andy, kill me. A Million Dollar Baby.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Good one. John? Color of Money.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, so good. Okay, underrated movie, Tin Cup.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, great movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yep, go ahead, Richard. More controversial these days, but The Blind Side.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Yeah, uh-huh, good one. All right, this one, can you consider this a sport or not? I'll have to get you guys to chime in. 21, the card cheat game where they're all at MIT.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't consider it one, but we are very lenient here, so why not?
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
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Okay, works for me. Classic, Bad News Bears. Oh, yeah. Go ahead, Richard.
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Oh, let's see here. Yeah, very good one, Andy. Okay. C, white men can't jump.
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Oh, yeah, good one. Depressing, but good. Go ahead, John. It is depressing. You're right. Very. I can't believe Richard hasn't said this yet. Mighty Ducks.
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Classic. Love it. And now one that I'm still trying to get you guys to watch, Mystery Alaska.
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I've never seen it.
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Go ahead, Richard. Let's see here.
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Russell Crowe.
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Glory Road.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good one. Good one.
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All right, somebody said Hildalgo because it's a sport, racing horses. Oh, yes. That one counts.
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That one counts. You going to go with that? Yeah. Okay, The Iron Claw came out last year. It was a good movie. I liked it. Richard, you're up.
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All right here, Andy. Oh, we watched this with the kids the other day. Cool Runnings.
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Oh, yeah.
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That's a good movie. I love that movie.
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We'll have to make this one our last one. Go ahead. The Cannonball Run.
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Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Richard, I'll let you go. Have a good weekend. Sounds good.
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See you guys.
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We don't yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Raisin.
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All right, a little less than a minute left. Andy, I'll rattle off a few, and then you can do the same. Coach Carter, Sandlot, I think we already said earlier, Longest Yard, and let's do Rush. Both of them. And Rush. Yeah, Longest Yard, both of them, yes.
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Okay, Rocky IV, which was really good, a Brian song. The Replacements, you ever see that? That was a good one. Any Given Sunday and Seabiscuit.
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Million Dollar Baby, McFarland USA, The Color of Money, we did already, Bad News Bears, we did The Wrestler.
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Slapshot, Fast Break, Radio, Breaking Away, and Heaven Can Wait.
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King Richard, I, Tonya, how about A League of Their Own and Raging Bull?
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And I'm going to throw in a couple more here. One-on-one with Robbie Benson and a league of their own. You just said so. There we go. I'll end with that.
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I'm a rich guy
This episode of The Flatline addresses one of Christianity’s most profound journeys: transitioning from merely knowing to truly understanding God. Rick Hughes examines how believers can nurture their spiritual lives, emphasizing the contrast between living by divine standards and succumbing to the pitfalls of carnality. Learn about the spiritual tools available to every Christian and how to employ them to ensure spiritual maturity and growth.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, you have a cordial invitation to stick around, listen for a while. We're not going to try to con you. We're not going to try to hustle any money out of you. We're not trying to sell you anything. It's simply a show about verifying and identifying the will of God for your life. If you're interested and you listen, you can orient and adjust wherever you want to do. But my job is to be accurate and not to play games. The Flatline is always about explaining God's protocol plan in a way that you and I can understand. Not using spiritual cliches like just let God do it, brother. Turn it over to the Lord, brother. We're talking about how this thing, the spiritual life, really works. Remember a key verse that I want to bring to your mind today is in Jeremiah 9, 23 and 24. Jeremiah speaking for God said this, I'm looking for those who not only know me but understand me. My premise is there's a difference between knowing God and understanding God. Many people know God through Jesus Christ as Savior. They've come to experience salvation. They're born again. They know they're going to heaven. But they don't really understand the God they know. If you're going to grow in grace, you must come to understand the God that you know. And so as we begin to explain some of these things today, I think it's critical that we understand this. We're going to talk about spirituality. Every believer must know and understand the spiritual life. If you ever hope to glorify God to the max, you've got to understand that. And so in the Bible, it talks about being spiritual, and that's the first question. What does it mean to be spiritual? I mean, I was around people a lot of times after I became a Christian and in the younger years of my Christian life that I thought were great spiritual people. And sometimes it was based on how they talked. I remember meeting an English man that had the accent like this, and he spoke really godly. He called the god master. I mean, you know, and I listened to that, and I thought, man, this guy really is godly. Listen to how he talks. Listen to how he prays, and he would pray, dear master. And so I was assuming it was a godly man when I was wrong. And, you know, I've been around people that didn't do certain things. They considered this spiritual because they wouldn't go into a 7-Eleven that sold a beer. You know, I'm a Christian. I'm not going in there and give that place any business. They sell the devil's liquor in there or whatever. All kind of crazy things. I'm spiritual because I don't eat bubble gum or chew lollipops or whatever. Come on. What is spirituality? What really does the Bible say spirituality is? What does it mean to be a spiritual person? Is it how you walk and how you talk? Is it the way you live your lifestyle? Or is it what you think? So let's start in the Bible in 1 Corinthians 2, verses 13 through 15. And the question I want you to answer today, if you listen to this entire show, is are you spiritual? Are you spiritual? Paul said in 1 Corinthians 2, 13, and we speak about these things not with words taught us by human wisdom, but those taught by the Spirit explaining spiritual things to spiritual people. The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness to him. and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The one who is spiritual discerns all things, yet he himself is understood by no one. The one who is spiritual, understanding spiritual things, First question we must answer is who is the spiritual person? What's Paul talking about, who's a spiritual person? In 1 Corinthians 2 verse 12, Paul wrote these words, we have not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. And so a spiritual person is a person who possesses the Holy Spirit. If you have the Holy Spirit, you are a spiritual person. Jesus said this was going to happen, that the Holy Spirit would come to live in people. And listen to that verse again. So that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. We don't have the spirit of the world, but the spirit who's from God. The reason God gave you the spirit, the Holy Spirit, is so that you can know the things that have been freely given to you by God. In other words, to understand your grace assets, you must have the Holy Spirit. Jesus told the disciples in John 14, 25, I've spoken these things while staying with you. But the advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything and will cause you to remember, that's recall. So he will teach you my word, the things that I said, and he will help you to recall everything I said to you. Now remember, these guys wrote the Bible, the New Testament, and they wrote it 30, 40 years after he said it to them. So they had to have recall by means of the Holy Spirit to refresh their memory. so that they could write down and record what we know today is the gospel narratives of the New Testament. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. John and Matthew were eyewitnesses. Mark was not, Luke was not. They were given information by Peter, who wrote two books of the New Testament himself, 1 and 2 Peter. So if you are a Christian and you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior, You are spiritual. You have received the Holy Spirit. When did you receive the Holy Spirit? Ephesians 1.13. And when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, when you believed in Christ, quote, you were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit. So the minute you believed in Jesus Christ, the minute you heard the gospel and said, that's for me, I believe that Jesus Christ is the anointed son of God and I'm willing to accept him as my savior. Boom. That's when you receive the Holy Spirit. You probably didn't feel it. I know I didn't. I didn't hear a heart. The roof didn't shake. The lights didn't flicker. Nothing happened. I mean, I got on my knees beside a bed and prayed with a preacher and said, God, please save me, and nothing happened. I didn't think, but it did. Because it's not an emotional thing. Some people get emotional about it. Some people weep tears of repentance at the altar, as they say. But salvation and what actually happens, being born again, is not something you will feel. Being born again is a spiritual birth experience. And that's what we'll talk about here. When did you receive the Spirit of God? Well, point one. Let's get this down. Whoever is born of God has the indwelling Holy Spirit and is thus no longer a natural man. But now he's a spiritual man, referring to his spiritual birth. Remember 1 Corinthians 2.14. The natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolish to him, nor can he know them because they are spiritually discerned. So we have two sets of individuals, a natural person and a spiritual person. You may be in your marriage like that. You may have a natural person which is an unbeliever and a spiritual person which is a believer. You may have in your family like that. These are two different distinct classes of people. The natural man has not received Christ as his Savior because he has not received the Spirit of God, and anything about the Bible would be foolish to him. And he can't know the techniques or the nuisance, the insinuations of the Word of God, the principles of the Word of God. He can't know them. because they're only spiritually discerned. He won't understand why you pray. He'll think that's ridiculous. He won't understand why you claim Bible promises. He doesn't see the validity to that. He's a natural man. But point two, if you are a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, because of your salvation, you were born again, and you are no longer a natural man. You are now a spiritual man or woman. Either one. This means simply this, that you have a body, a physical body. You can look in the mirror. Don't laugh. There it is. That's you. Correct. And you have an invisible human spirit that has been indwelled by God, the Holy Spirit. That's what salvation is. When you get saved, God the Holy Spirit comes to indwell your human spirit that was spiritually dead. But now it's been made spiritually alive by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. So now instead of just having a body and a soul, now you have a body and a soul and a spirit. When we decease, when we pass away, when we pass on, the body is going to be useless. We're going to get a new body, a different body, a resurrection body. Like the eyes never seen and the ears never heard. It's going to be unbelievable, but don't need this one anymore. but you're going to have the same soul and the same spirit. It's going to heaven. It's going to live in that new body. So if you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, when you were born again, that's when the Holy Spirit came to indwell you. And this is called positional truth. Positional truth. You are in the family of God. You have the Holy Spirit living in you. You are spiritual. You're not a natural man. You're a spiritual man. But, but, and this is a big but here, you may not be spiritual in your experience. It may be that you are a believer in Jesus Christ, thus not a natural man, but a spiritual man. But in your experience, day to day, you may not be spiritual. You may be carnal. Paul states this principle of carnality in 1 Corinthians 3, one through four, the same principle I call, from learning it from my pastor, reversionism, reverting back to living like the lost man lives, reversionism. Paul states the principle in 1 Corinthians 3, 1 through 4, And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I fed you with milk, not with meat, for hitherto you were not able to bear it, neither yet now are you able to bear it. For you are yet carnal. For whereas there is among you envy, strife, and division, are you not carnal and walk as the lost people walk, walk as men? For while one says, I am of Paul, and another says, I am of Apollos, are you not carnal? Mental attitude sins are indicative of carnality. Sins of the tongue are indicative of carnality. A believer who has known sin in his life is a carnal Christian. And most of the time, he's not a mature Christian. We'll study that. What does it mean to be spiritually mature? But so far, we've had what does it mean to be a spiritual person? That's a person who's born again. What does it mean to have spirituality? And we're going to see that here. That means to be filled with the Holy Spirit. And what does it mean to be a spiritually mature individual? That's to be controlled by the mind of Christ, having his thinking, controlling you, living by divine viewpoint. So Paul recognized in Corinth there was a problem. There was a lot of problems in Corinth. It caused him to write several letters, two of which wound up in the New Testament. And he called them babies in Christ because they weren't mature. They were carnal. They allowed their sin nature to control their life, not the Holy Spirit of God. So here's the principle. The believer, you and me, who has unconfessed sin in his life is not spiritual in his experience since he's grieved and quenched the Holy Spirit. So even though we are spiritual in our position, we are in the royal family of God, we've been born again, we are not spiritual in our experience since we've grieved the Holy Spirit, quenched the Holy Spirit. The Bible gives some negative mandates in Ephesians 4.30. Grieve not the Spirit of God, whereby you're sealed until the day of redemption. God's not going to take the Holy Spirit away. He's not going to say, give it back now. He sealed you with the Holy Spirit, but it's possible when you sin, you will grieve or sadden the Holy Spirit. We say it that way. Now, the Holy Spirit doesn't have emotions like you and I have, and he's not emotionally manipulated like you and I have. But this is a way we can understand he does not approve of our sin. And so when we sin, we must rebound the sin, which you should know is problem-solving device number one on the flatline of your soul. It says, if we confess our sin, then he's faithful and just to forgive us of our sin and to purify us from all of our wrongdoing. So we are mandated. This is not a request. This is an order from God through Paul. Do not grieve the Holy Spirit. Do you know what happens when you grieve the Holy Spirit? You wind up standing alone in the devil's world. You've lost the man who protects your back. You've shut him down. And think about this. Now, there you are living in the devil's world, a believer in Jesus Christ, not a natural man but a spiritual man, and you have quenched and grieved the Holy Spirit who has your back, and now you've walked out the door into the devil's world with no protection. That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why would you want to do that? Because you're going to be a victim right off the bat because Satan, I mean, his objective is to intimidate you. His objective is to discourage you, to defeat you in the angelic conflict. He doesn't need you being a witness on behalf of the prosecution for God. So, don't grieve the Holy Spirit. You are sealed until the day of redemption. You don't have to worry about losing him, but you can grieve him. And the Bible says don't quench him, 1 Thessalonians 5, 19. That's to shut off his power. When you shut off the power of the Holy Spirit, he's not able to... give you insight. He's not able to carry your prayers to the throne of God. Romans talks about we don't know how to pray as we should pray but the Holy Spirit makes intercession for us. So here you are and you're trying to pray But you have quenched the Holy Spirit, shut off his power, and your prayer will not go any higher than the ceiling because you're doing it in the energy of the flesh. And unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit, your prayers are not going to go before the throne of God. You can't do it in the energy of the flesh. That's not the protocol plan of God. So spirituality is an experience. Spiritual is a birth. You're spiritual because you were born again, but spirituality is an experience, not a position. Now listen to this principle. One, this was a term used for the filling of the Holy Spirit. So if you are filled with the Holy Spirit, you are spiritual. How would you know you're filled with the Holy Spirit? Is it something you're going to feel? Is it something you will see? Is it something you must strive hard to obtain? The answer is no. When you name any known sin to God, you are instantaneously filled with the Holy Spirit. You're already sealed with the Holy Spirit. You're already indwelled by the Holy Spirit. You've already been given your spiritual gift and but you quenched him and you grieved him with your sin. It could be a mental attitude sin. It could be a sin of the tongue. It could be an overt sin. Whatever you decided to do to carry on in your own volition, You know, you are the decider. You have a volition. You make a decision, and you made a decision to do this. It's expedient for you to do it right now, and you compromised your principles. You compromised your core values because it was expedient. You were thinking about self, and you did it for self, and you quenched and grieved the Holy Spirit. You're standing alone in the devil's world with no one to cover your back. And now you look around and you go, good grief. I was a fool. I was an idiot. I can't believe I did that. Then go to God immediately and confess the sin. Because the Bible says if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That's the rebound technique. That's problem-solving device number one. So this term spirituality is a term used for the filling of the Holy Spirit. But point two, when we're in a state of sin, we are not spiritual. We're carnal. When we're in a state of sin, that's unconfessed sin in your life, mental attitude sin, sin of the tongue, overt sin. Let me say mental attitude sin. Worry is a mental attitude sin. Bitterness is a mental attitude sin. Jealousy is a mental attitude sin. Envy is a mental attitude sin. Listen, this Christian life is a unique way of living. This is the most unique life the world has ever seen. It's the life of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, manifested in you by means of divine viewpoint thinking under the power of the Holy Spirit. That's amazing. So you're not spiritual in your experience when you have sin in your life. Excuse me. all right so it could be mental attitude sins it could be sins of the tongue such a thing as gossip slander maligning criticizing let me just give you a warning you're watching the television you're watching your favorite politician and you see some real jerk who hates your favorite politician And that jerk is going off on your favorite politician and telling everybody what a liar he is, what a liar she is, what a reprobate they are, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The public lie, you know, you tell it often enough, loud enough and long enough about half the world will believe it. So people drink the Kool-Aid every day. If you know what I mean, drinking the Kool-Aid from the Jim Jones experience. Listen, if you get mad, lose your temper, stand up, point at that TV and say, that S-O-B, you just sinned. You just sinned. Mental attitude sin. You don't have to be in front of him and smack him in the nose or say something to her. You sinned by that hatred in your soul. This is where you have to learn to use problem-solving devices. Number six, which is number seven, which is impersonal love for others. Impersonal love for others. You can love the biggest jerk on television if you love him based on your divine standards, not theirs. It's the same way God loved you. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life. God loved you. Were you a wonderful, sweet, marvelous, magnificent person? No. You were a sinner just like me. God loved us before we ever loved him. So spirituality, which is the filling of the Holy Spirit, And carnality, which is being manipulated and controlled by your sin nature, they are both absolutes and they are mutually exclusive. You cannot be both at the same time. The believer is spiritual when the Holy Spirit controls his life and he's carnal when the sin nature controls his life. So which one are you right now? Are you spiritual in your experience? Or are you carnal in your experience? Is there unconfessed sin in your life? That's the answer. So the spiritual believer You and I, when we are filled with the Holy Spirit, we are to imitate Jesus Christ. And the carnal believer, he imitates the natural man or the lost man. Ephesians 5.1 tells us this. Therefore, we are to be imitators of God as beloved children. We are to think like he thought. You can't do this apart from the filling of the Holy Spirit. And the only way to be filled with the Holy Spirit is to use the rebound technique. When you're filled with the Holy Spirit, you subdue the lust of the flesh. You overcome the flesh. The Bible says if we walk in the spirit, we will not. We will not give in to the lust of the flesh. The book of Galatians talks about it. The flesh wars against the spirit and vice versa. So imitators of God. It's impossible apart from the filling of the Holy Spirit because we have to imitate his thinking, Philippians 2.5. Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. and we have to replicate his lifestyle as we become mature believers, living in the cosmic system, living in the devil's world, replicating the lifestyle of the Lord Jesus Christ. So there's a difference between spirituality and maturity. A spiritual person is a person filled with the Holy Spirit. A mature person That's based on the content of the word of God in your soul. One's based on the filling of the Holy Spirit and one's based on the content of the word of God in your soul. No one can ever glorify God to the maximum until he or she, they learn God's protocol plan. That's why we have 2 Peter 3.18. Grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That's why we have 2 Timothy 2.15, study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. That's why we have Matthew 11, 28 through 30, come to me all you that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke and learn, learn, learn of me. My yoke is easy. My burden is light. Learn, study, grow. The Christian life is not something you get by osmosis. You must commit yourself to learn the word of God and apply it into your life. It's known that you're a spiritual person since your spiritual birth, yes. But it's possible that you are not a spiritual person right now in your experience, isn't it? That's possible since you have unconfessed sin in your life. And if so, it's highly probable that you're not spiritually mature. since you have no desire to study god's word and prove it grow it learn it use it in your life you may have settled for ritual without reality and that's totally meaningless ritual without reality is you shuffling on down to your local church singing a few do lords and a few praises to the god and and having a 15-minute sermon and heading over to your favorite restaurant and you consider Your Christian deed done. You went to church this Sunday. Well, I thank God you went to church. But that's not the spiritual life. It's much, much, much, much more. And your pastor will be the first one to tell you that. You must grow in grace. You must find a well-qualified pastor. Study God's Word under the mentorship of the Holy Spirit through this man's spiritual gift and grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I sure hope you're listening, and I hope I've explained the difference between spirituality, carnality, and maturity. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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