Join us for an insightful episode as we discuss critical changes in immigration policy, highlighted by President Trump's recent announcement to send 10,000 additional troops to the southern border. This episode explores the Trump administration's response to the immigration crisis and details the collaborative efforts with ICE and the National Guard. We also cover legal battles backed by organizations such as the ACLJ, pushing against pushbacks from groups like the ACLU. Our conversation navigates through the complex legal challenges against the backdrop of rapidly changing administration dynamics. We invite listeners to join in the conversation and share their views on how these decisions affect border security, the economy, and American communities. This episode sheds light on the intricate balance of power, policy-making, and grassroots activism that drives the national discourse on one of America's most pressing issues.
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Breaking news today on Sekulow is Trump to deploy 10,000 troops to the border.
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All right, folks, so you heard it in the alert. As you heard yesterday on the broadcast, we talked about an additional 1,500 troops being sent to the border to help 2,200 that are already there from National Guard. And President Trump has now announced through the administration that we are looking at putting in an additional 10,000 U.S. troops. Now we don't know if that's 10,000 plus those 1,500 that were announced or in addition to those 1,500 but you're looking at a significant increase going from about 2,200 to what we know is it definitely over 12,000 somewhere around there and it could be closer to 13,500 troops to again work with ICE and Customs and Border Enforcement on the areas where you've got the most illegal immigration going on to make sure that we are able to secure our border and again this is something that the president has the power to do the resource wise different than trying to go for the wall or changing immigration laws or changing definitions that might come under your legal attack here as a commander in chief if you believe that there's an emergency at the border and of course we've talked about that the remember the Biden administration never wanted to admit that that this was actually a crisis though they had a crisis team inside the department of homeland security We're just getting the teams, you know, ramped up. So a lot of this is coming out directly from White House or from sources because we don't have, you know, Kristi Noem is not yet the secretary. It could happen soon. Same thing goes with Hegseth at DOD. But you've got to get people in there. But right now, these are the... plans that the Trump administration has to start dealing with the problem. It's not the only way they want to deal with the problem, but these are the ways what you can do quickly as president that changes the kind of the scenario at the border immediately. I mean, just with these 10,000 additional troops, you think about the amount of border crossers that will be apprehended, but also the the cartels are going to have a tougher time selling the idea of illegally crossing the U.S. border and then having people give them their entire life savings and basically be trafficked by these cartels or indebted to them as slaves when they get to the U.S. or they are also being used as drug mules, bringing in the fentanyl that's killing Americans. They have to think twice now because... it's not just you might run into some pushback or maybe it's a 25% chance that it doesn't work this again when you put these kind of troops in the areas they need to be and border patrol knows this and the people on the border ICE knows this as well but they're going to get pushback we're already seeing Will to the ACLU trying to get pushback on deportations and saying that this is the people in the U.S. who don't have any documentation that they are here legally or that they are even here awaiting trials or awaiting asylum hearings they have nothing no paperwork for at least two years and the ACLU is saying no you can't just deport them they have to go through the entire legal process and what we know is that if you go through our entire legal process with the backlog that we have in the immigration courts which we haven't really even gotten to that problem yet but You're talking about people... You're never going to deport these people. Well, that's the truth. Unless you'd have to double or triple the courts, which then you'd be spending there... And just to handle who's already here, if you have to then fight each one of those as a separate legal case. We're going to take your calls, 1-800-684-3110. But see, this is why the work of the ACLJ is so important right away. You get the policy announced. We know what the Trump administration wants to do on the key issues that got President Trump back to the White House. Now we have to figure, okay, where will be the legal battles? Which battles can we win quickly? Which battles are going to be more legislative? Which battles are kind of left versus right? All of that work goes into now making sure we get the ideas actually put into place or else they're just ideas. Support the work of the ACLJ as we begin those battles. Donate today at ACLJ.org or become an ACLJ champion, a monthly donor. All right welcome back to Sekulow we are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110 that's 1-800-684-3110 so as you heard of the news I mean the the 1500 troops were given 24 hours to deploy these additional troops to the border then additional 10 000 troops and all sorts of different kinds so you've got intelligence troops uh just to figure out you know where the people are coming across what the cartels are doing it is a massive change in policy on the southern border. Is it everything? No. Is it a huge start though in changing the security of the American people all over the country? Absolutely, because you have to do these things at the same time. You can't just go and focus on who's here illegally now and let that continue to happen, right? So if everybody, if you deport one person, four more people come in illegally that day, you're not really changing the numbers at all. So you've got to do both. It's a big... crisis that this administration isn't afraid to treat as an emergency in fact well that's how the president was able is able to send the troops he had to declare it was an emergency the Biden administration they that it was not in their political interest I guess even though that they the American people understood what was happening across the country not just in border states but they wouldn't do it and so they didn't give themselves the authority to put more security on the border and that's because they've got leftists on on that we're pushing these basically open border don't enforce the laws that we already have and of course don't declare it an emergency because that means you'd actually be sending troops down who would stop people coming in illegally
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Well, and we were gaslighted by the administration for four years saying that it wasn't a crisis, there wasn't an invasion, that the border was secure. When in reality, what you've seen since Monday, when you not just look at the border and these steps that he's taking to secure the border itself, the physical border, but Bill Malusian at Fox News put out last night that they've embedded with an ICE unit in Boston. So Northeast America, not anywhere close to the southern border. And they, just in the time they were reporting with them, witnessed eight arrests, including multiple MS-13 members, Interpol red notices, murder suspects and a volatile Haitian gang member with 18 convictions in recent years in the United States. And he yelled at the cameras, he ain't going back to Haiti, an expletive about Trump and Biden forever. They also witnessed what they called collateral arrests that weren't their target arrests of knowing where the violent criminals were, but people that were with the gang members that also were undocumented. So here's what it really shows me. One about we knew that we were gaslighted by the Biden administration, but it wasn't just that they were incompetent and wouldn't do their job. The fact that ICE this quickly knows exactly where to go. I saw a report that they went to a prison in Colorado and picked up a illegal immigrant who had violent crimes against him that he was serving term for in prison. They went and picked him up, put him in ICE detention so they can start the deportation proceedings. The fact is, not only did they let the border stay open, they knew where the bad guys were in our city. They knew where the people that committed crimes against American citizens, like Lakin Riley, who was killed by an illegal immigrant who had charges against him. ICE knew where to go the whole time. It tells me that Secretary Mayorkas was rightfully impeached by the House of Representatives because they weren't doing their job. They knew where to go find the worst of the worst. to get them out of our country, put them in ICE detention until they can go through the deportation hearings to get them out, and they refuse to. That is so much worse than them just not doing their job. They had people that were doing their job, knew exactly where to go, and it only took a couple days for thousands of these people to be taken into custody by immigration services, by ICE. That is really, really devastating to the American people that the Biden administration knew exactly where to go. and they did nothing. They didn't care about protecting Americans because of their political narrative and now you see the left groups like the ACLU filing cases in federal court against the administration trying to block Trump's expansion of fast tracking deportations. They're trying to make it take more time when What right now, this isn't, I wouldn't even say this is securing the border face for President Trump. This is cleaning up the mess that is left to him by the Biden administration. And that's going to take a while, but that's also why it's important to do it in two parts. Send the ICE agents, go get the people you know where they are, but at the same time, get the National Guard, the military down to the border to secure it so that you're not playing catch up later when more of these people keep coming in.
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Yeah, I mean, this is, again, folks, what we have to understand here is you've got multi-pronged policies being put in place by, as you said, by, as Will said, I mean, this is to kind of clean up and just get you to square one so that you can then start looking at the policies that will really prevent, the long-term policies, whether it's building walls in certain areas along the border where it's necessary and utilizing that equipment. That you've got to work with Congress on board. Is it... that you need more people and you've got the military able and ready to be deployed within 24 hours. I mean, the fact is it tells you a lot about the United States. a president can come in in a few days not even have a secretary of defense yet and have you know 1500 troops deployed to the border in 24 hours and probably the additional 10 000 employed as not much longer than that once they put together what who that what kind of troops they need and who is available for these deployments and remember it's not all the same kind of individual so I think right off the bat what you have to understand here is you've got an administration that wants to fight for you. They want to fight for the issues that you care about. What we have to make sure first is that they get their team in place so that while these announcements are being made and the left is saying, you know, we're going to file the lawsuit here, we're going to file a lawsuit there. that the team is getting in place in Washington, D.C., and that we're getting prepared for what the ACLJ can do in response to the legal, it'll be a legal onslaught against most of the policies, even policies that most Americans would agree on. They will use and they will try to use to divide us. They'll try to use to attack us. But the truth is, and I think what we can seize on, you may be feeling it too, and it's different about where you live. But we know the left has been clear, Will, they've had a tough time energizing their base because President Trump not only came in with more votes, with a popular vote, did better in blue states, even states he didn't win, got a lot more of the vote, got a lot more diversity of the vote. So their traditional base has looked at it, I think, two ways. One is... Okay, we got destroyed in the election trying to run on our issues even by shifting in a new candidate and that didn't work. So how do we fight this guy who is, we know from the first term, was able to get a lot done in four years. And you already see what he's doing in one days. Most presidents at this point, you might get a few of those executive orders going and it might be a hundred, but that's about all you'd see. You would already see them engaging international discussions, but this is a president who was already ready. He was ready before day one because he's been through the process. He knows these leaders. He's able to do. I mean, I've already seen him more speaking out, answering questions than I remember ever by doing. And the American people, that could go a long way. and getting public support for your policies. Then you have to get, though, you have to have the legal backing. If we don't win in court, would these get challenged? Some we hope to win quickly. Guess what? They're just policies. So we have to be ready and prepared. We want to take your phone calls to 1-800-684-3110 if you want to talk to us on the air.
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And Jordan, we should point this out as well, because Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well, especially in the mainstream media. This is a contrast. We're going to show this photo. It's of an SUV that was seized at the border in Arizona. Deputies found 10,000 rounds of 50 BMG ammo and nearly 20,000 rounds of AK-47 rounds. This comes out of a local Fox affiliate there, Fox 10 in Phoenix. They were stuffed into vehicles, and all this ammunition— 20,000 rounds of .50 caliber and 20,000 rounds of AK-47 were being transported by asylum seekers. So cartel activity, trying to exploit our asylum laws and processes, that's what's being brought over. That's not being used for anything good. But you know how the New York Times is categorizing a lot of these moves by President Trump? Listen to this headline. How labeling cartels as terrorists could hurt the U.S. economy. The New York Times, the gray lady, is carrying water for cartels because of the trump administration's actions to try to stop things like massive shipments of high caliber ammunition that will not be used for anything good in this country but further death and destruction by these terrorist cartels and the new york times is trying to say but it could really hurt the economy Are they going to say now that he announced the Houthis are back on the list that it's going to hurt soybean farmers in Iowa? I mean, this is the most absurd thing I've ever seen in my life.
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Yeah, folks, this is why you got to start. You got to join the fight. And really, I mean, there was the fight. Obviously, there's election battles. And we were successful. So let's do something with this. And that means we have to be ready. The left is ready to take every one of these issues on in court. So you need to support the work of the ACLJ. You know our record there. You know we're ready. You know we're already working on it. We've already got our teams on a lot of these executive orders ready to fight back when necessary. Donate today at ACLJ.org. We need those resources to fight. All right, welcome back to Secular. We're taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. We know tomorrow there will be the March for Life in Washington, D.C. President Trump is going to address that likely by video address. And he is one of the first, if not only, presidents in office that's ever addressed the March for Life in Washington. a different tone obviously since the overturning of Roe versus Wade but there are a lot of abortion battles ongoing right now there's some efforts to pardon some abortion protesters who have served in prison sentences because of the FACE Act there have been moves to try and repeal the FACE Act there have been moves unfortunately thwarted in the U.S. Senate on the board alive protections for those children who survive abortion procedures and there was hope that you could potentially get to cloture there but the democrats held together to stop that vote but that doesn't mean that we aren't seeing a whole change in the policies, which we will see from the Department of Justice and, of course, from the Trump administration. We're also seeing, bring in CeCe Howell here, from senators who are notifying those places like National Archives where we've had issues and the Smithsonian where we had the issues with the students with their beanies to make sure they aren't harassing or violating the First Amendment rights of any of these students not just peaceful protesters, this is a protest that goes through, it's not a protest, it's a march. They have permits, they go through the system, they get all the legal documents they need, the people go, it's not wild, it ends, and the kids want to go see some museums, and it became a constitutional crisis, these museums trying to scream and yell and tell these people they've got to take their clothes off at 20 degrees outside or less, or put their clothes on inside out, or they're not welcome there.
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Yeah. And, you know, again, we always talk about abortion distortion and we see this again. You have the March for Life happening a couple of years ago. And like you said, there were children, minors going to the Smithsonian, going to the National Archives. And in both places, they were harassed and told to take off. their pro-life clothing they literally at the smithsonian they were kicked out and and that one was the most egregious because they they cussed these guards cussed at these kids they kept harassing them as they kept going through the the air and space museum and when they kicked him out the guard literally rubbed his hands in glee as he kicked him out and made the statement and this is the most just ridiculous statement that you can ever make, that the museum was a neutral zone and the First Amendment does not apply here. And of course, we sued immediately at the Smithsonian and then the National Archives. They had a similar situation where pro-life people were told to take off their apparel or leave. All the while at the National Archives, while people were walking around with my body, my choice and pro choice, those T-shirts were fine, but the pro life T-shirts were offensive. So we sued in both of those cases. We won in both of those cases. And now we have Senators Young and Senator Cruz sending letters reminding the National Archives and the Smithsonian that they have to uphold the First Amendment and allow pro-life speech and pro-life t-shirts and apparel to be worn there.
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And Jordan, I think it's also important to point out because this was egregious and we fought, but also in this time, as we've said, you know, the department heads of the cabinet are not all in. As far as, it's not chaos in like a crazy way, but in just a, there's a lot of moving parts. That's a time when you see the leftists try to take their stand and make a point that That's when it could be there could be a perilous time for those who are going up for the March for Life because there's a lot of eyes are on other things, not on an individual that just has a beanie hat that says pro-life in the name of their school. But this is what was written by these senators. And that's another reason why you support the ACLJ. Our close contacts and relationships with these very powerful senators that will Take the time to send a letter and remind these institutions through their oversight role. Hey, you're on notice, by the way. We control your funding. We control a lot of the aspect of how you operate. Just remember to follow the law. And I want to read this. It says, furthermore. This is to the National Archives. February 15, 2023, NARA, National Archives, settled a suit, a civil case brought by the impacted individuals represented by the American Center for Law and Justice. As set forth in that consent order, the victims alleged that when they had visited National Archives, they were subject to a pattern of ongoing misconduct within the National Archives Museum by National Archives officials. contract security officers so these senators are pointing out not just hey generally be mindful that you protect free speech they are pointing to our case the resolution of our case our lawyers are able to help with the councils of these senators to give them the pertinent facts when they want to send these letters and They know exactly which case they're talking about. It is the individuals represented by the American Center for Law and Justice. And when you support the American Center for Law and Justice, you support this work. You support U.S. senators sending letters to these government agencies saying, stop discriminating against conservatives and pro-life Americans. It's unconstitutional and you lost in court already. So make sure you don't do it again. And that's what you support when you become a champion of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org or even with a one-time donation.
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Yeah, I mean, ACLJ champions, what does that mean if you're new to us or new to supporting us financially? An ACLJ champion is you come up with an amount that you are comfortable donating monthly and it automatically comes out each month. So if it's $50 or it's $100 or it's $20, you can do that at aclj.org slash champions. And that is really important for us and it's become extremely important for us when we have these big battles where you might have, you know, 50 clients and you've got minors and young people and parents and different agencies of the federal government. I mean, the National Archives, different than this, all of those battles. You have to be able to act quickly, but then also be in the battle for the long term. So those ACLJ champions that we know that your support is coming in on a monthly basis is so key to that recurring support to know that we've got that coming in and that we can continue those cases. You know, it's always our goal, as we say, that in any case that we are presented with, that if we are considering to take the case, that the cost is never the issue. That we don't ever have to say this is going to cost too much. We won't be able to afford to do this case at the ACLJ. And we're able to still say that because of our donors to the American Center for Law and Justice. And as Will pointed out and CeCe pointed out, these cases, CeCe, these are things you have to act really quickly on. But then there's the short-term impact and then there's the battle.
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Absolutely. And what's so great about it is we at the ACLJ are able to bring these cases to light. That's why these senators even know that this situation evolved and what happened. We fight the battle. We win. And then we have success continuing on when we say, you know, these senators are saying Congress will closely monitor the Smithsonian institutions conduct next week. And we stand prepared to exercise all available oversight powers. If the institution fails to adhere to the constitution, that's our win. That's the ACLJ. And just like you said, we cannot do that without the support of our donors.
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Yeah. We've got to have you folks. ACLJ.org slash champions. And if you make a one-time donation, that's very important to the ACLJ as well. ACLJ.org. There is a lot of work to do. These cases are all just beginning again as the policies are announced. And the lawsuits come in from the left. We're able to respond. We've also got nominations to fight for. So we're just talking about the first few days here. And we've got to have the resources to make sure we're fighting back and supporting these good policies while we're on the offensive. You know, we have to move and mentally we have to move that way as well. After being on the defensive for a few years with the Biden administration, we're back on offense. So let's act like it. Support the work of the ACLJ. Donate today at ACLJ.org or give monthly at ACLJ.org slash champions.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
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All right, welcome back to Sekulow. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110 if you want to talk to us on air. We're going to take some calls now. And we encourage you, again, to call in about all these different issues that we are working through in the first week of the Trump presidency. Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us, too, on the broadcast. He's already gotten to work there, too, as a special envoy and with his role with ACLJ. So let's go to the phones, Will.
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Yeah, we're going to go to Phil calling in Pennsylvania on line one. Phil, you're on Sekulow.
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Hey, you guys got me? Can you hear me?
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We got you.
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Okay. All right. You know, I mean, it's fantastic what President Trump is doing at the border. I mean, we stopped the bleeding, but now we got to get the infection out. Last Friday, I mean, it was a blip in the news. Last Friday, the District of Columbia comes out and announces that 1% of their electorate, which was about 300 plus people, were non-citizens. chest thumping, very proud. I'm like, wait a minute. Did they just gift wrap a federal warrant for Tom Hallman to go in there with ICE and get those names and addresses? I think they did. And if that's the case, wouldn't that be a precedent to go county by county, state by state, and get these names and addresses of these people?
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Yeah, I think, listen, D.C. is unique. Obviously, there are people there illegally and there are people there that are not citizens who are there legally. I mean, there's actually a lot of people in D.C. that are there on whether it's student visas, temporary work visas. You've got a big international community, not just with the countries that are there with embassies, but you also have you know international organizations there so it's it's not what's unique is that Washington DC allows those with these uh certain statuses who are not citizens to vote in local elections so when they have uh when they have votes that are not uh federal but are just DC specific which are still federal so the issue there uh but they allow people who are not US citizens to vote like for mayor and for their uh you know for their representatives on the city council I do think what you brought up is an interesting point is that because these liberal places have tried to, I guess, make this kind of like statute, you know, they've actually put the documents together and these lists of people. You certainly can go through and see, is anybody on that list here without the proper documents? um you know extensions or have they have they outstayed their time here legally are they still in the united states that's a lot of the questions because we don't even know who's here half the time um and i guarantee you on those voter rolls uh it's it's happening in blue cities across the country uh it's not for people who are here technically if you're here illegally you would not qualify even into these liberal states so that's that that's the legal difference is they're not voters who are in the United States illegally. I don't think it should happen this way, but they are voters who have some kind of more permanent status.
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And also to clarify for Phil as well, and it was about 500 voters that they announced, which was a very small percentage of the electorate, but those individuals weren't able to vote for President of the United States or any federal office. Those voters, when they register, are put in a category and only get local election ballots or local measures. So it isn't as if D.C. subverted the federal election law by allowing them to vote for president of the United States. I agree with you, Jordan. I still think these cities and municipalities shouldn't be doing it. However, they have done that. They have their own rules within how they elect their own city members and council members and mayors. If they want to add to that, they can. I don't think it's been challenged yet. I do know that Congress last year tried to put forward a bill which would block that because U.S. Congress and the federal government has a lot of control over over DC for obvious reasons. But once again, these people weren't specifically illegal aliens or illegal immigrants to that point. But it does raise a lot of questions about things going forward in that nature.
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Yeah. And folks, again, We're just getting started in the work that we can do, but you have to use every moment you've got. So you don't want to just say, oh, yeah, we'll get to that ultimately. So let's get the team in. I mean, Rick Ronell's already gone to work. He's going to be joining us in the next segment of the broadcast. You can support the work of the ACLJ right now at ACLJ.org with a one-time donation at ACLJ.org or to give monthly with a recurring donation and become an ACLJ champion. Go to ACLJ.org slash champions. They are the key. to the why we never have to ask can we afford to do this case it's just are we ready to go We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. One note to Tulsi Gabbard, who's part of our team, has got a confirmation hearing scheduled for next Thursday before the Intel Committee at 10 a.m. on a director of national intelligence. And so we'll follow that closely. There's more to do on that nomination as well, but we wanted to put that out there. Let's go to the phones, Will, at 1-800-684-3110. You definitely have time to join us on the broadcast.
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We're going to go to Jennifer in Oregon on line four. Jennifer, you're on Seculo.
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So, I serve this country. I took the oath to defend this country from enemies foreign and domestic. I nominate our governor for Gitmo. She just ordered... Oregon employees to undergo training, mandatory training, on how not to cooperate with the federal government on courting illegals.
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Yeah, well, this is what we're going to see, right? State governments battling the federal government. And, of course, these states rely on a lot of federal funding. So that's when you have to go from policy will to then actually putting laws in place. Because what the laws do is say to that... governor of Oregon yeah if you do this there's going to be economic consequences to your state right now that this is a policy announcement of we're not going to work with them and we'll tell you how not to work with them so we have to be able to work with congress to make sure there's teeth and some of that you don't have to do legislatively some you do and again none of our states in the United States are operating without federal funding and significant federal funding even your state programs that you would think are run entirely by your state oftentimes get big federal grants so that means that they are responsible for following the law and the bigger the policies within that law which again this is not like we have to write new laws to deport people who are here illegally I don't know the left is acting this is some kind of like we have to rewrite the constitution to deport people who are here illegally that is not necessary you prioritize you let the the people who handle that know where your priorities are we know the priorities are the most dangerous people first and then move on from there
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And if you remember back during the Obama years, Arizona had that bill SB 1070. I mean, this is a blast from the past, but what Arizona was trying to do is try to actually strengthen the way that the state could enforce the laws on the books, really, but by allowing local deputies and sheriffs to be able to, if they found someone who was here illegally, then be able to detain and report properly and that went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and the Obama administration argued no the border enforcement is ours. You don't get to do this on your own. You can take directives from us and do it but you don't get to make these laws about securing the border on your own. That's the job of the executive branch. That's ours. That's Congress makes the laws. We enforce them. You listen. And so it actually got overturned at the Supreme Court of them trying to do that. Now I understand that states can claim prosecutorial discretion, that they don't want to use funds because they have to use it here and here. So it's a lot more conniving way to get around it. But they're doing the same thing. They are just choosing to not enforce the law in a different way that should be. Unfortunately, you can't just go and and force a prosecutorial discretion issue in the court system. But that's what we're looking at. And I know that we have Rick Grinnell joining us now. So we'll get back to this discussion. But it is very frustrating. And I feel for Jennifer.
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And I think this will become more normal in our discourse as we get used to being on, again, we're not just the opposition fighting and pushing back on the defensive side, but taking more of an offensive... actions and working like we should, which is that we're on offense right now. We have the White House, the House, and the Senate. Doesn't mean everything's going to be easy, but we don't need to be acting like we're on defense right now. The American people put these folks in place. And Rick Grinnell is joining us now as part of our team. Rick, you're also an envoy for special missions by President Trump. You've already gone to work there at a meeting in Davos with NATO. Tell people about that.
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Well, I did a satellite video interview from my home in Los Angeles, but into the Davos breakfast on Ukraine. Farid Zakaria interviewed me. And in the lead up, I was hearing from the NATO Secretary General and some others talking about you know, how we just got to have Ukraine and NATO and this is how the problems are going to be solved. And so when it came time for me, I felt like there needed to be a little perspective in that room because it seems like a lot of globalists were just thinking that, gosh, we're going to just end this war and put Ukraine and NATO and everything is going to be fine. So I just made the point that, you know, you're going to run into a buzzsaw in America if you in Europe think that you're just going to start expanding NATO membership with the expectation of the American taxpayer paying for the new members to come in and the commitment of defense cooperation treaty protection. You know, we have members of NATO who haven't paid their fair share. Donald Trump just announced that they should be paying 5%. We struggled to get them to 2% and then 3%, they kind of ignored, and now he's raised the bar to 5%. And so the question really is, is Europe ready to kind of shake off this woke culture that they seem to be trapped in and concentrate on their economies? The economies in Europe... are really struggling and what Donald Trump did today via satellite into Davos was amazing. It was classic Trump, very clear, could not be more proud to be serving this president who is filled with common sense after years of people just, you know, leaving common sense and racing towards this woke ideology. Those corporations in the room, when I was speaking and Donald Trump was speaking just a little bit ago, they became very shaken by the fact that America isn't going to concentrate on this woke uh, political stuff that we're going to concentrate on the economy. And I got a taste of this when president Trump asked me to do Kosovo, Serbia negotiations. And he told me, you know, concentrate on growing the economy, getting them to work together, creating jobs for young people, hope, uh, not about political posturing and words on a piece of paper, fighting with politicians. It just doesn't matter to the people's lives. And I think that's what we're hearing, uh, The new day, President Trump is equipped, working hard, and classic Trump. And Davos, I think, got a taste of it this morning.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Rick, one, it's a real treat for our audience who's used to hearing from you, senior advisor here on the broadcast, but also now current presidential envoy for special missions and carrying out really one of the first public roles of that job. And they're getting to hear from you just hours after that took place. But one, we saw in a clip that the secretary general of NATO was saying, You know, and thanks to Donald Trump, we were paying more into NATO as if they were so glad to do it. They just needed someone to ask them. But you were very pointed, especially with the secretary general being Dutch and said that the American people are the ones that are paying for the defense. You cannot ask the American people to expand the umbrella of NATO when the current members aren't paying their fair share. And that includes the Dutch who need to step up. Obviously, from that statement from the Secretary General saying that we are paying more, but having direct words like this from you, the presidential envoy, they're not used to being talked so toughly to after four years. How is it received from those members?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think the Germans are used to it. They're used to me, but... Look, I think that Secretary General Mark Rutte is a nice guy. I think he means well. I like him. But he was the leader of the Netherlands for years, and they didn't step up and pay their fair share. And he got a promotion to go from being the leader of the Netherlands to being the Secretary General of NATO. And now... He's there saying that we should all do more. And what I wanted to make clear was, I agree, Mark. I think that's a great idea. Let's work together to get there. Tried to be a very calm voice. But I think it's really important to be direct and to not say a bunch of stuff that doesn't really help push us forward. And what I said is that, you know, here the leader of the Netherlands is now telling us, as the Secretary General for NATO that we need to step up and do more. But when he was the leader of the Netherlands, he didn't do that. He didn't move his country to pay their fair share. And so I just said, look, this is something that you didn't do. when you were the leader. And now we're struggling. We need it to get done. The Dutch need to step up. Everybody at NATO needs to step up. The American people deserve that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Rick, as always, we appreciate your insight. I mean, this is very interesting because of your role already engaging at Davos with this panel on NATO and letting, you know, NATO know. It's not going to be the U.S. paying for everything, every expansion, every war, every conflict that they want to engage in, that they've got to pay their fair share if they want to continue, again, even talking about expanding. How about just getting to 100% of what they owe in their payments? We'll be back on Secular. I think it's going to be very cool to have Rick Riddell joining us on the broadcast still. He's able to do that with that role as a special envoy. And as you see President Trump immediately in the White House. And that's why people like that are key. Because when you don't have a team in place, you've got to go to people who you trust who can represent you at these major forums in the first three days of your presidency. And really... spell it out not in a way to start a fight amongst our allies in NATO but to say you know what stop talking about expansion when you're not even paying your fair share today so we're not going to talk about you know you know, the unending war in Ukraine or bringing in new countries into NATO until you're paying your fair share. And then you can start talking about that. But first, you got to get up to speed. And they, for too long, have been used to the United States, maybe for a few years, with a Trump presidency, the first time saying, you know what, this could significantly, you know, impact NATO. But then they get Biden back and suddenly they can start saying, spending and not really have to worry about the oh the U.S. will cover this if we need it and they'll handle the majority of the cost and we can just keep adding on to the deficit spending if you will inside this international organization and it was important I think for the Trump administration just these first few days and to use Rick to say remember we are not a blank check. And so you're talking about all these ideas, wonderful ideas that cost a lot more when you're not even paying what you should right now. So let's work on that and then start talking about, let's stop talking about expanding. And by the way, that's not helping with Vladimir Putin either. By the way, just trying to bring it into that conflict and then talking about expanding NATO at the same time with our resources and our tax dollars, which we know our president, he wants to take care of us first and the American taxpayers first and the American people first. And to make sure these other countries, who have much more interest, by the way, in how close they are, geographically into making sure this conflict does come to a close but you've got to pay your fair share and you know though you're not hitting those percentages it's fair game for the country that you're used to relying on to say you know what I mean we want to we could play a big role but we cannot be the only role in this economically let's go to the phones Jordan we've got Bob calling from Ohio he's listening on radio Bob you're on Sekulow
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. Yeah. I wanted to say great work you guys are doing in regard to the Smithsonian and the, uh, archives issue that you talked about earlier. And I think there's a large number of us out here that would, uh, be happy to see that these people that actually, um, treated these people so badly, uh, when they were visiting, uh, the archives and such that they would be, um, identified and, uh, At least fired, if not prosecuted and imprisoned.
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, listen, what we had to fight for was first the training to make sure, again, who took the wrong action here and where did it start? And it was different in both situations. So the National Archives was different than the Smithsonian, which are different entities. but we fought that out to make sure our clients were made whole in the way they were treated and to make sure and that's what the senators are doing with these letters to make sure that they got the correct training and they have not got received any incorrect training before the March for Life tomorrow to make sure because we changed and made sure that they had to go in and make sure that they were educating their security employees correctly on the free speech rights of visitors to these museums.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. And just in the Smithsonian case, our clients received a tour and apology from high up within the leadership. They had to do retraining. I believe in one of the cases, it was a third party security contractor. So they had a little bit of cover, but those people were not to be reassigned to the archives by the company that was contracted with them. the students and were able to show the footage and of the events but also they were given monetary damages the Smithsonian had to actually pay damages and the senators say in their letter while we're pleased that the victims of this harassment received justice it clearly should have never happened in the first place and no sum of money could truly undo the atrocious acts. So they are putting them on notice, and they reminded them of what they had to pay out and what they had to do. So hopefully this strongly worded letter, and we'll be watching as well. And if there are people that go tomorrow, that are listening today, that feel like they are treated differently because they have a March for Life sweatshirt on or a hat that says pro-life, go to aclj.org slash help and we will spring right into action. We've got the template. We've done it before. Our attorneys are ready to help. Let's go back to the phones. We've got, let's go to Forrest. He's an ACLJ champion calling online to Forrest Geron Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, I'm flabbergasted that Joe Biden should be able to... shield from all prosecution his son his family going back 20 years as well as anthony falchion chris gray the j6 committee and all their staffers my question is i have a follow-up question is um has a truly blanket retroactive preemptive preemptive as in before prosecution indictment pardon ever withstood the scrutiny of the u.s supreme court and if so can it be re-examined the way hobbs re-examined roe v wade i have a follow-up question
SPEAKER 02 :
Listen, first of all, if you're talking about the pardon power of the president and the fact is on a federal level, it's not going to be tested. And you could try to test all you want, but it's very broad. And if you read the Constitution, it's broad. Now, it doesn't impact state laws and state prosecutions. But again, it's not that – I don't think people were so shocked. I think the shock was his presidency. He didn't include himself, the self-pardon issue. But again – I think most Americans, what we'd like to do is de-weaponize the federal government. And that means get the federal government out of politics. So don't pick your targets based off their political views on issues and whether you agree with those or not. We're supposed to be going after the bad guys and the bad actors and the criminals. And start with the very worst, especially our federal government. Let's start with the biggest, baddest, and worst guys. And then, again, the pardon power, it's broad. But, you know, we're not supposed to be using really our law enforcement to go after our political opponents. And we shouldn't become we don't want to become that that embrace that either. But we have to make sure that that we are going to be treated that way. I mean, there is a fair balance there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and if you look at it as well, what President Biden actually did was give a gift, I would say, to those that were imprisoned for January 6th related offenses, because the Constitution says he shall have the power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States. It doesn't really put limits on that. That is some of the most broad language in the Constitution. The only exception is except in cases of impeachment, which is that political process that we are all too familiar with here at the ACLJ. But I think back to that point is that the only thing that was really binding presidents was political fallout and or what they call norms or traditions. And Joe Biden decided to throw all those out the window on his way out the door. And I think there's even reporting already that the scope of the January 6th pardons was more narrow until Biden did all those last minute pardons. And then President Trump was like, you know what? Forget this. We're just going to go ahead and pardon everybody so we can move forward in America and get all this behind us.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. And I think that is a lot of what we want to do. The best would be to get this behind us and let's stop using law enforcement and law enforcement agencies to take out or down or bankrupt, as President Trump is talking about, financially ruin our political opponents, starting with former presidents who run for president like President Trump, who was treated the worst. This is not what these agencies are for. And I think, as he said, we can move forward and stop politicizing law enforcement or else you're not living in the United States of America. Support the work of the ACLJ. Donate today at ACLJ.org. We need you.
The episode also covers a range of topics including President Trump's bold moves on the reconciliation bill and military reorganizations. Wisconsin's Senator Ron Johnson shares insights into potential fiscal strategies as debates swirl around budget proposals. Further, Vice Admiral William Dean Lee discusses the impact of diversity initiatives in the military, and Senator Steve Daines explains the significance of redesignating the Houthis as terrorists, stressing the broader implications for US-Israeli relations. Join us as we navigate these pivotal developments in national policy and governance.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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This bill just asks the simple question, if an abortion is botched, and the child is delivered instead of destroyed in the womb, and the child is alive and viable on the table, what happens next? Current medical practice is everyone in the room just backs away and you allow the child to die on the table. I don't think that's what most Americans would want.
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That was Oklahoma Senator James Lankford on the Senate floor yesterday debating the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. Welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in and making us part of your day. Well, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act failed to advance in the Senate yesterday when every Democrat senator voted against it. One of the most common arguments that was given was that it doesn't happen, so it's not necessary. Later in the program, Senator Lankford himself will join us along with Josiah Presley. an abortion survivor. Meanwhile, the big question on Capitol Hill is, will there be one bill or two?
SPEAKER 10 :
I like the concept of the one bill. I guess I said one big beautiful, and that's what everyone faces. Actually, it's sort of a nice sound to it. But I do like that concept. It could be something else. It could be a smaller bill and a big bill. Right. But as long as we get to the right answer.
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That was President Trump in an interview with Sean Hannity discussing possible paths forward on a reconciliation bill, which is a budgetary means to circumvent the 60-vote threshold required in the Senate. Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson will join us with the latest on this debate. And actually, he's leaning toward three bills. We're going to talk about that. Also, President Trump signed an executive order once again designating Yemen's Iran-backed Houthi rebels as a foreign terrorist organization. Former President Biden had previously removed that designation. Montana Senator Steve Daines, who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, will give us his perspective and the latest on this. Finally, in evidence that it's not business as usual in D.C., the commandant of the Coast Guard, Admiral Linda Fagan, was ousted Monday night. One reason cited, an excessive focus on diversity, equity and inclusion, which diverted resources from operational priorities. That, of course, is a hallmark of much of the federal government under the Biden administration. Retired Coast Guard Vice Admiral Dean Lee joins us to discuss what this signals ahead for our armed services. All right. We are in the first 100 days and we've created a brand new resource for you. It's the first 100 days toolkit. It helps you track campaign promises as they become policy, provides contact information so that you can take action when necessary to contact your senators and your congressmen. And it includes prayer points for our government leaders and for the policies they're considering. To find the toolkit, you can find it on the StandFirm app, or you can text TOOLKIT to 67742. That's TOOLKIT to 67742, and you'll be prepared for the first 100 days. All right, the Trump administration continues to take shape following the president's return to the Oval Office on Monday. The Senate voted today to confirm John Ratcliffe as the next CIA director, making him the second highest level appointment for the new administration to be confirmed. And Senate leaders are pushing ahead with a series of votes on President Trump's other cabinet picks. Meanwhile, Republicans are still working to reach consensus on budget reconciliation with more members of Congress and even the president saying it's the results that matter, not whether it's one or two bills. Well, joining us now is Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, who serves on four Senate committees, including the Budget Committee and the Finance Committee. Senator Johnson, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you. Well, Tony, thanks for having me on. All right. Where are we on this reconciliation? We've got one bill, two bill, and now you say maybe three is the best way forward.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, Tony, I come from the private sector, and I'm a firm believer in the KISS principle. Keep it simple. I'm well aware of the grotesque dysfunction here in Washington, D.C., also very well aware of the slim margin in the House. We have a little bit more leeway in the Senate, but, again, that doesn't necessarily guarantee success. So when you talk about one big, beautiful bill, I recognize that one big, beautiful bill is really complex. And what I think, we need to really lay out the goals. And the first goal is what President Trump ran on in his 2016 election and then 2024, because Biden opened up the borders. We have to secure that border. We need to make sure this administration has the resources and funding for the full four years. That's something we all agree on. So get that one done off the table. Then we have this massive automatic tax increase barreling toward us. By the way, We did that because we couldn't have the pay-fors to make it permanent, but we have this massive automatic tax increase. Let's take that off the table. I understand that the whole discussion around President Trump's tax proposals, the SALT deduction, I want to take the time to simplify and rationalize our tax code. So what we can do is we can just extend current policy Get that off the table. Assure the American public there's not going to be a tax increase. I think that would be very good for our economy. Private sector wants stability. They want certainty. And then let's take our time to simplify, rationalize our tax code, and make sure that whatever we do is permanent so we're not facing another fiscal cliff like this. So again, I think three makes sense because I think we can knock the two out pretty fast. and then take our time, because we'll have the time, to get tax simplification right. Does the reconciliation process allow for three bills? Absolutely. So what we're going to first be doing is we're going to be passing a fiscal 2025 budget. We're four months into that fiscal year already. By the way, I didn't even mention the complications of increasing the debt ceiling— funding 2025 before we turn our attention. So, yeah, we would pass a 2025 budget, as bizarre as that sounds, use that for the first two reconciliation packages, and then turn our attention to a fiscal 2026 budget. And then we would use that for reducing the size of government. You know, I have proposals on that as well. We've not returned to pre-pandemic levels. 2019, we spent $4.4 trillion. Pandemic spending spree, $6.6 trillion. But we haven't reduced that. A family, if you have a major medical issue, maybe they have to borrow $50,000 to pay for bills. They're not going to keep borrowing and spending that level if they get well. They're going to return to their reasonable baseline of spending. We didn't do that for the last five years. We spent six point five trillion dollars. So we need to work hard to reduce the level of spending. I thought it was interesting in President Trump's double speech. He mentioned the fact that because of this gross mismanagement on part of Biden, we're spending one point five trillion dollars more than we would have under his projection. So I've actually been talking about the budget he proposed. proposed was about $5.5 trillion versus the $7 trillion. So we need to, in some way, shape, or form, return to that pre-pandemic baseline. And again, that's going to be complex to do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Once government gets kind of attached to that funding stream, inflated funding stream, dialing it back is a challenge, but needed. Absolutely needed. When you look at the fact that our interest on our debt is more than what we're paying for national defense, there's something seriously wrong there. Is it a foregone conclusion that Democrat members of the Senate will not vote for the extension or the making permanent the tax cuts? They want to vote a tax cut upon the American people?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they want to vote a tax increase on some of the American people. I think a good chunk of that, the middle-income tax cuts, they would want to extend as well. But, you know, to get back to spending, what I proposed is, you know, rather than talk about cuts, why don't we go back to other baselines? You know, President Trump's budget would be one. That's $5.5 trillion. if you'd use President Clinton's back in 1998, the last time we had a, or the first time we had a surplus since 1969, and if you increase that budget, it was 1.7 back then, by population growth and inflation, and you use this year's Social Security, Medicare, and interest, you know, At current levels, so you basically exempt Social Security and Medicare. You spend what you need to spend. That also would be $5.5 trillion. And President Biden is projecting $5.5 trillion worth of revenue. Tony, we'd have a balanced budget. Now, I don't think Bill Clinton spent too little. back then. So again, you're basically using his spending levels, just inflate them, we'd have a balanced budget. And by the way, if that's too reasonable, use President Obama's 2014 spending levels, do the same thing, it'd be 6.2. So there you've got your range, somewhere between $5.5 and $6.2 trillion versus the $7 trillion we're spending basically this year. So let's talk about the obstacles to get there. What stands in the way? Republican votes, probably. We can do this through reconciliation. So we really need presidential leadership, which is why I was really glad to hear President Trump talking about his projection for 2025 at that 5.5 level that I've been proposing using Bill Clinton's baseline as well. So again, it's kind of a confluence of rationales for returning to about a $5.5 to $6 trillion baseline of spending. To me, that's really good news, because if we have presidential leadership, I think House members, I think senators will get behind this concept. Again, we can do this quick. I actually printed out that budget. It's about that thick, over 6,000 line items, a couple hundred pages worth. I can drop that today. I'd vote for it.
SPEAKER 05 :
All Republicans should vote for that. If I recall correctly, Senator Johnson, before the pandemic in the last budget, I think the president, President Trump proposed, it was actually lower and Congress beefed it up. He actually had a very, in fact, I think if I'm not mistaken, it took out funding for national public broadcasting and some of the other leftist agencies. But the Congress put it back in.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we have big spenders in our Republican Party here in Congress, too, so that's why we need presidential leadership. Now, obviously, he ran on reducing the size, scope, and cost of government, its influence over our lives. If you want to do that, don't fund it. Again, we'd still be spending somewhere around $6 trillion, which is still trillions of dollars too much, but... That would be a reasonable level to return to. Hopefully, it's not going to be much of a fight. Hopefully, again, President Trump will lead us in this effort and kind of embrace this concept that I've laid out there in a Wall Street Journal column on January 2nd.
SPEAKER 05 :
That would be absolutely amazing if we could balance our budget. I mean, it can be done. But if we had the intestinal fortitude to actually accomplish it, that could be quite—I mean, the impact that that would have on our economy, I mean, that would fuel economic growth, would it not?
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. And again, I'm using a rationale. Go back to Bill Clinton's budget. Grow it by inflation population. We'll use his spending priorities. We'd be at $5.5 trillion. Or again, use President Trump's projected budget. I don't care which one we use. We can mix and match. Some things we can increase. Some things we can decrease. We can get into greater detail. But that's the general framework. That's how we control government spending.
SPEAKER 05 :
Here's a challenge. The clock is ticking and we're having this. This debate's been going on now for a few weeks about one bill, two bill, one bill, two bill. If we don't do something, we're going to miss the opportunity.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think Chairman Graham, chairman of our budget committee, I serve in that committee with him. We're in talks. We're meeting with House Freedom Caucus individuals who are being more than reasonable, as I think we are being more than reasonable. I think Lindsey wants to plow forward. So if President Trump gets behind this effort, we'll plow ahead. We can get this done literally in weeks.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, the reconciliation process, does that have to originate in the House?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think we can pass our budget here and marry it with the House product. It's not the same thing as like a tax bill or something. So I think we can, you know, lead this effort if the House is having trouble kind of gaining consensus. Again, keep it simple. Let's break this up into pieces. I think it's eminently doable then.
SPEAKER 05 :
Senator, I have to say, it makes a lot of sense, especially if it gets back to that place of having a balanced budget. That could be huge for our country. Senator Johnson, thanks so much for joining us. Always great to see you. Have a great night. All right. And, of course, we're going to check back with him and see if he's making progress on that. It really is. I'm getting a little concerned because it's more about a debate, just back and forth, one bill, two bill. Let's just move. We've got to get something done. All right. Coming up next, could there be a change ahead in our nation's military as we see the president relieving the head of the Coast Guard for being too DEI-focused? That's next. We'll go away.
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Thank you.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Be sure and get the first 100 days toolkit. You can get it at the Stand Firm app or you can text toolkit to 67742. That's toolkit to 67742. You'll have all the information you need there at your fingertips to be engaged. As I've said many times, our government, our system of government was not created for spectators. It's for participants. So be involved. All right, in rolling back, Biden-era attempts to let DEI drive hiring in federal government. President Trump made clear that he wants to see hiring based upon merit. His administration is working quickly to do just that and move away all remnants of DEI. On Monday, the new acting head of the Department of Homeland Security fired the Coast Guard Commandant, Admiral Linda Fagan. reportedly due to her excessive focus on DEI initiatives, which hindered the actual mission of the Coast Guard. Will we soon see a turnaround in our military as the Trump administration continues to shake things up? Joining me now to discuss this and more is Vice Admiral William Dean Lee, who retired from service in the Coast Guard in 2016 after 35 years of distinguished service. Admiral Lee, welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to see you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it's good to see you again, Tony.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me ask you a question. Were you concerned about the kind of the DEI policies that were moving into the Coast Guard and affecting the agency's focus on its mission?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the short answer is yes. Yes, I was. But I belong to an organization of like-minded generals, admirals, retired JAG officers and colonels called STARS.US, who has been trying to get attention placed on that issue for the last two or three years. I mean, it's not just the U.S. Coast Guard. It's rampant and deeply embedded in all of the military services. And it was our concerted opinion that it was divisive in nature. On the surface, it sounds good. But underneath, it's got its roots in Marxist ideology. which pits one group against another, one gender against another. And we do not think, based on our decades of service, that that's how you build a team. And so I'm glad to see that it's being rooted out of our services.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, the Coast Guard is different than the other branches of the service. It comes under the Department of Homeland Security. Does that—did that enable the president to take more directive action immediately?
SPEAKER 06 :
I can't speak to that, Tony. I mean, obviously, the Coast Guard is under the Department of Homeland Security, and it's because we have a law enforcement mission that requires that. I was as shocked as anybody on Tuesday morning when I awoke and my phone had exploded with People sent me the message that my former friend and colleague, Admiral Fagan, had been relieved. I did not see that coming. I'm not surprised that they're going to let loose some generals and admirals, but I was a little bit surprised to see that she was the first. And I feel that. I do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let's talk about something that you and I discussed sometime back on this program, back during the COVID pandemic. We saw many service members pushed out because they refused to get the jab, and that included the Coast Guard. And you were on—we were discussing that. You had real concerns about that. President Trump is looking to reinstate those who were expelled. I'm sure you're relieved to hear that. But How's that work? How is that going to work with these individuals whose reputations, their careers in many ways were tarnished, some ruined? How's that restored?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's a good question, sir. We've been talking about that a lot. The first thing you do is you acknowledge that we, the government, were wrong in forcing that mandate down upon them based on what we know now. And then you—and you actually—you just apologize, and you make it right to the best of your ability. For those who got dismissed with 7, 16, 17, 18, sometimes 19 years of service, they need to be allowed to come back on active duty and to— and to get the benefits that they worked so hard to earn. And I hope that that happens. And with that, you'll start to build—you'll be in confidence, again, that leaders, at least the new leaders and commander-in-chief, is willing to take a hard look at what happened, why it happened, and make sure that we don't make the same mistakes again.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think that last statement is so important that we acknowledge what happened was wrong, but how do we put safeguards in place to ensure that it doesn't happen again?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the first thing I think we need to do is this team I've been working with has developed a draft executive order that we hope to get into the president's office for signature. We call it the Comcat. It's to develop, create a commission to study the COVID and the anthrax policies, how they rolled those out, what was done right, what was done wrong. pull it all out into the report, capture that information, and then codify it and make sure that we don't do it again. And to the extent that some people may have broken the law or breached policies, hold them accountable. Not a witch hunt, but it's just, if you want to restore trust in the military services, because this is one thing, one policy that affected all of them, we owe it to them. We have a duty of care to do just that. Let's analyze it, recognize what we did wrong, acknowledge it, and ask forgiveness and move on.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think that is so important. And I've had this discussion with those in the healthcare industry, FDA and others, where the policies that they pushed through, they now recognize were wrong, admitted it. But unless we put new processes in place going forward, we're going to repeat the same mistakes again. Somebody will. I mean, it might not be the same people, but there's going to be another challenge somewhere down the road. And it's best if we have documented and made the necessary changes to ensure that these people that serve this country are not harmed again.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Yes, sir. So to the extent that you can help us with this effort, if you just remember this word, you know, we got a draft executive order. It's titled ComCap. And if you can talk people into at least taking that thing out and looking at it, we would be grateful, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
We will do that, Admiral. Admiral, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Likewise, my friend. God bless.
SPEAKER 05 :
Take care. Admiral Dean Lee. All right. When we come back, we're going to talk foreign policy. The Trump administration redesignating the Iranian-backed Houthis as a foreign terrorist organization. We're going to talk about it. Don't go away.
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Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council here in Washington, D.C. Behind me is one of the most recognizable buildings in all the world, the U.S. Capitol. What does it stand for? Well, most people say government. But you know, the Bible talks about four institutions of government. You know what they are? And do we have a republic or a democracy? Well, what do you say? Also, what about this saying separation of church and state? Does that mean Christians shouldn't be involved in government? Guess what? We address those issues and more in our new God and Government course. I invite you to join us to see what the historical record and the Bible has to say about government. Join us for God and Government. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us. I'm Tony Perkins, your host, and I've got a great resource for you as we move into the first 100 days of the Trump administration. It is the 100-Day Toolkit, and it will help you keep track of promises made and policies adopted. It will also give you... Access to contact information for members of Congress, your senators, so that you can be involved. So simply text the word TOOLKIT to 67742. That's TOOLKIT to 67742. And you'll have it right there with you. All right. Yesterday, President Trump redesignated the Iranian-backed Houthis as a terrorist organization, reversing the decision by the Biden administration. This follows Trump's continued push to strengthen U.S.-Israeli relations, including lifting restrictions on arms sales to Israel, cutting funding to the terrorist-compromised aid group UNRWA with the United Nations, and giving the go-ahead for deportations of U.S. visa holders linked to pro-Hamas protests. With all that... happened with all that's happening in the Middle East during the Biden administration. What message did these actions send to our allies and why are they important? Joining me now to discuss this is Senator Steve Daines, who serves on four Senate committees, including the Foreign Relations Committee. He represents the state of Montana. Senator Daines, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you. Hey, good to see you, Tony. Now, yesterday, you actually introduced the standing against the Houthis Aggression Act to designate the Houthis as a terrorist group. So you should be pleased with the president's actions.
SPEAKER 13 :
Tell you what, it's been a flurry of activity with President Trump out in front. There are all these executive orders and so forth, but we're doing it on the floor here to move President Trump's nominations through. But I couldn't be more pleased. I introduced the bill to designate the Houthis as a foreign terror organization, and lo and behold, Trump, through the stroke of a pen, did the same thing. Look, what I'm really encouraged by, Tony— is restoring the moral clarity that was so needed by the commander of chief under the Biden and Harris administration. They were really handcuffing Israel. They didn't know who the good guys were and the bad guys were. Now President Trump's in office. There's moral clarity with President Trump, Marco Rubio, Elise Stefanik, our next UN ambassador. You've got Mike Huckabee, soon to be the U.S. ambassador to Israel. They understand what's going on with Israel in the Middle East. And the path forward in the Middle East is first and foremost, make sure that Israel is strengthened and protected. And second, to make sure we diminish the capabilities of her adversaries, which in this case, add the Houthis to that list, as well as Hamas and Hezbollah as terror organizations.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, this isn't difficult. I mean, they've been firing missiles on Israel. In fact, when I was there in Israel the week before Christmas, two missiles were fired by the Houthis into Israel. But talk for just a moment, Senator Daines, why this designation is important. What does it mean? Why do we designate these entities as terrorist organizations?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it gives the United States government, starting with the president of the United States, our commander in chief, more optionality as it relates to amping up necessary, whether it's force, literally preemptive, a kinetic force against a terror organization. to ramp up sanctions, to cut the flow of financial resources organizations. It just gives, again, more tools in the tool chest that allows us to ultimately destroy these organizations. That's what we have to remember, that when Obama was president, I remember spending some time at Bagram Air Force Base there in Afghanistan, talking to our generals who were frustrated by the fact that Obama required every single kill shot against what they call jackpot targets, which would be known terrorist leaders. They had to go all the way through the Oval Office to get cleared, and by the time they got clearance from the Oval Office, they've lost their shot on a terrible bad guy. President Trump's elected. He comes in. He tells the military, here's the objective. Destroy ISIS. You figure that out on the battlefield. I'm not here to run the war. I'm here to give you the tools you need to win the war. And that's exactly what happened when we took ISIS off the battlefield. Well, now they've reconstituted, certainly under Joe Biden. And you're seeing the same thing with these Iranian proxy groups of terror proxy groups of Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. This just gives the United States government now, under President Trump's leadership, more tools to destroy these adversaries.
SPEAKER 05 :
And as you mentioned, as you referenced, this certainly sends a strong message to our ally Israel that we're standing with and no equivocation here on that. And speaking of encouragement, I want to shift gears here. We just got about a minute and a half left. You founded the pro-life caucus in the Senate. You've got to be encouraged by the fact that just less than two hours ago, the president signed pardons for the pro-lifers who were unjustly targeted and jailed by the Biden administration under the FACE Act. Your reaction?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, thank God for that. And thank God for the election of November. Thank God for these protesters that are standing for life out there, being the voice for those who are voiceless. Talk about injustice, Tony, to think that these protesters literally were thrown in jail in some cases. Absolutely wrong. You think about Micah 6-8 when we talk about injustice. walk humbly and to seek justice. Here's a great example of that, of justice being delivered to these individuals who are fighting on behalf of the unborn and now are set free. Very, very thankful for the President's action today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it is. Praying grandmothers are safe in America again. Intercession is no longer grounds for an indictment, and probable cause will not be pursued by those who protect the unborn.
SPEAKER 13 :
Tony, maybe we need to have some hats that say, making praying grandmothers safe again. Maybe some red hats and distribute them, but it's a day to be encouraged.
SPEAKER 05 :
It is. Senator Daines, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today. Thanks, Tony. All right. We're going to continue our conversation about life next with Senator James Langford of Oklahoma. So don't go away. We're back right after this with more.
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As President-elect Donald Trump's second inauguration approached, a powerful prayer gathering took place in Washington, D.C., drawing Christians together to intercede for our nation.
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This is not an interreligious service. We will not be praying to Allah or Buddha. We'll be praying to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We're talking to God, a holy, righteous, just God from a nation that desperately needs the touch of this God.
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Lord, may this not be the end, but may this be the beginning, this convocation, this gathering. And may we commit to pray and to seek you and to walk in your word and in your ways. In Jesus' name, amen.
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You are tuned in to Washington Watch, and I'm Tony Perkins, your host, and I am glad to have you with us. And as I mentioned, we've got a resource available for you. It's the 100-Day Toolkit. It's for the first 100 days of the Trump administration. It'll help you keep track of the promises made as they become policy, and sometimes they're going to need a little push. So we've got contact information here for members of Congress, for your senators and your congressmen. And you'll get action alerts. So go, if you have the StandFirm app, you'll find it right there in the StandFirm app. If not, text TOOLKIT to 67742, TOOLKIT to 67742. Our word for today comes from 2 Kings chapter 22. Then Hilkiah the high priest said to Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan and he read it. Then Shaphan the scribe showed the king saying, Hilkiah the priest has given me this book. And Shaphan read it before the king. Now it happened when the king heard the words of the book of the law that he tore his clothes. Now this is amazing. The word of God had been lost in the temple. How do you lose the word of God? The word was their authority, it was their direction, it was the core of their identity, but yet it was missing and no one even noticed. But could the same be said of the church today? The Bible remains one of the best-selling books, with sales actually increasing last year. But is it being read? And more importantly, is it being followed? What would happen if the church rediscovered the Word of God? I mean, really rediscovered it and returned to living by it. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. That's BIBLE to 67742. Well, yesterday, Democrats in the Senate blocked the advancement of a bill that would prevent a doctor from simply ignoring a newborn who survives a botched abortion procedure, an action that inevitably leads to the death of that newborn child. All 47 Democrats voted against the Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act. That prevents Republicans from getting the 60 votes needed to secure a vote on the measure. That's a procedural vote. It's known as a cloture. Now, they accused Republicans of using false narratives and fearmongering, saying, no, no, this never happens. It's not a problem. Well, joining me to separate fact from fiction is the senator who introduced the bill, Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma. And with him is Josiah Presley, the survivor of a first trimester abortion. Senator Lankford, Josiah, thanks for joining me today. Great to see both of you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely glad to do it, Tony.
SPEAKER 05 :
Josiah, good to see you again. Before we unpack this, I want to get your reaction to something that just happened within the last couple of hours, President Trump signing pardons for the pro-lifers who were unjustly targeted and jailed by the Biden administration under the FACE Act. Your response, Senator?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's good to be able to see on that. As people get the context of this, this was a time when abortion clinics were being, or I'm sorry, where pro-life pregnancy resource centers were being attacked, were being defaced, were having graffiti on them. People were being afraid. The Department of Justice wouldn't step in and protect those individuals, but individuals that were speaking out for life around abortion clinics, they were being jailed. So literally, the Department of Justice was saying, pregnancy resource centers, you don't need protection. Abortion clinics, you do, and we're going to overprotect you. So this was a response from President Trump. It was a positive response to say, we're going to be back to equal justice under the law, and these individuals aren't going to be targeted because of their beliefs about the value of children.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it certainly reestablishes a sense of justice in this country. It's unfortunate that we have to wait for a new president to come in to establish justice in a system that is ruled by law. We should be able to trust our laws, but it's the unequal application of them that creates this problem. Senator, let's get to the bill that you introduced yesterday on the Senate floor. It was blocked by Democrats. Unpack for our viewers and our listeners what this bill would do.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's a very straightforward, what I consider a common sense, common ground kind of bill. This is not about abortion at all. This is literally if an abortion is carried out, but the abortion, instead of destroying the child in the womb, the child is actually delivered. What do you do in that case where a child is actually delivered? They're literally crying and breathing on the table in front of you. Now you have a fully delivered child in front of you. Do they get medical care or not? This seems like a no-brainer. I don't run into anyone that says you do abortion after a child is fully delivered, but that is the current practice. The current practice now is they can't take the life of that child at the table. That'd be infanticide. So what they do is they basically back away and allow the child to die on their own right in front of them. I think that's horrific to just allow a child to be able to die of exposure. And so we're trying to step in and to say, hey, where are we as a culture? Post-abortion conversation here, just delivery conversation. Can't we at least agree? that when a child is fully delivered they should get medical care and painfully yesterday democrats said no if it was intended to be an abortion even after they're fully delivered and alive on the table their life should still be taken from them i think that's abhorrent and i think that's very extreme and well past where the american people are
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think you made that point very clearly yesterday on the Senate floor. That's not America. That's certainly not how we want to be known. Josiah, you spoke at our Prevost Stan Summit back in 2021. And Senator, I don't know if you know this, but I know Josiah at the Prevost Stan Summit, as we began to have a conversation, his father was my youth minister back when I was in high school there in Oklahoma. So I know you have an affinity for youth ministers having overseen the campground there in Oklahoma for summer camp for churches. But Josiah, for those that haven't heard your story, can you share that with us?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so I grew up in Oklahoma. I'm adopted. I'm one of 12 kids, 10 of us being adopted. And my story, my adoptive parents, when I was 13 years old, they told me more about my adoption story. And they told me how two months into my birth mother's pregnancy with me in South Korea, she actually underwent a DNC abortion. a type of abortion where the doctor goes into the mother's womb and rips the baby apart and brings them out in pieces. This obviously was a lot for me to take in at 13. And as a kid who'd grown up in the church, who'd grown up very pro-life, and with these Christian convictions, it was a lot for me to take in, something I struggled with for years. And then it wasn't really until I was 16, and I surrendered my life to Jesus actually at Falls Creek, that God changed my heart. And as I found value and worth in him, I also began to see that in everybody's life, in every human being's life. And that's then flowed into a lot of the advocacy I'm able to do now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Josiah, kind of walk us through how you dealt with this revelation that your parents shared with you. And then when you hear people today, just like on the center floor yesterday saying, well, this doesn't happen. It's not really a problem.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so I mean, so at the age of 13 and for a number of years, I struggled with a lot of anger and really a lot of hatred and hurt over the circumstances surrounding my birth. I knew what we believed as Christians and what we believed as people who were pro-life. And that's just talking about my birth mother, her decision for abortion. That was a first trimester abortion. And even when we think about this act that was voted against yesterday, that's not even talking about abortion. And to me, the scary and really the disheartening thing that I think that really we should hear me thinking about as American people is, We're not talking about abortion there. What we're talking about is a baby who's been born. Right. Like, that should be an easy threshold. That should be an easy common ground thing for us to all say, hey, yeah, human life, they're born. They're valuable. We ought to protect them. And we can't even find that common ground there. And that's very concerning, I think.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, we're talking infanticide is what we're talking about. about, is allowing a child to die. In fact, if you go back to the origins of the church, that's where the church really made its first incursion into society, was taking those abandoned babies and caring for them. And as a Christian society, I mean, we want to identify ourselves as a Christian society, at least the majority does. This is a no-brainer, as you pointed out, Senator.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, this should be easy. Democrats were saying, well, this is going to be some secret backdoor way to instruct doctors or to be able to punish doctors that aren't doing care. But quite frankly, every physician has basic Hippocratic oath to do no harm and then to also to do basic care. If you've got a living child in front of you, there's a responsibility to be able to take care of a living child, not back away. And this doesn't happen often. But it does happen. And then the question is, when it does happen, what are we going to do? And currently, we've not even been able to agree on that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Josiah, there is a growing number of those who have survived abortions who are now speaking out. There's a network. Speak to that for a moment, how that has been helpful in just having those conversations with others who have had some of the similar experiences that you've had.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so when I first found out the origins of my story and I was navigating what it meant to be an abortion survivor, frankly, I thought I was one that was far and few between. Like, I was not aware of very many others. And as I've been able to connect with specifically Melissa Oden, as she's the one who's founded the Abortion Survivors Network, it's It's been crazy to see the number of people who have come out of the woodworks who actually are abortion survivors, who are going through that grief or going through that pain, that anger, trying to sort out those pieces of their story. And so it's been really encouraging for me personally in my own journey, as I've been sorting through it as I go, but then also to see that I'm not alone. And it's also a reminder, though, of the humanity of the unborn. more and more of us get through. And those who get through, they're the proof. They're the reminder. They're the living, walking, breathing voice to us all that the unborn, they're human and they're valuable and we ought to protect them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Josiah, let me ask you this, because you've done a lot of this in terms of advocacy and having conversations. It's hard to push back when people hear your story. But for those that need to engage in their elected representatives, whether it's at the state level or the federal level, obviously, in this bill. How would you suggest they approach this conversation and politely push back on this narrative that it doesn't really happen, this bill is not necessary?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think actually just talking to Senator Lankford earlier and just hearing some of the things that he brings up when he talks about asking them, okay, we have to consider there's three people involved in an abortion, the father, the mother, and the child. And he's brought up, and I think this is a really good question, at what point does a child become a child and should have that protection? And I think that's something every one of our elected officials should have to answer. I think that's something every elected official should have to answer because that's something they're answerable to the people on. We should be able to know where elected officials stand on that and how they're going to vote on that, how they're going to pass legislation on that, because we're literally talking about a life and death situation here. And it's important, I think, for the people to ask those questions.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, Senator Lankford, for now— Senator Lankford, for now, is this bill—I mean, is it going to move forward? Is there going to be another attempt on it, or is it finished?
SPEAKER 07 :
So it is finished in the Senate for now. The House picked it up. They passed it. And what's interesting, the House and the Senate both had a majority vote for this. But as you mentioned, the top of the of this conversation, you have to have 60 to be able to move it. But we had 52 votes. That's a majority of the Senate agrees with this. But we don't have enough to be able to move it. The House did have a majority when they voted on it today and they're able to pass it in the House. But we're not able to make law on it. until we get out of the Senate with 60. The other part of this, though, is there's only eight states in the country that do full reporting for abortion survivors. So many states, and this is an era where state legislators and individuals can engage with their own states to say, what does our state do? How do we protect abortion survivors? So we're talking about this on a federal level. But every single state and every single person that's listening to this program right now should be able to say to their legislators, do we report abortion survivors? Do we require that? Do we require care for children in a botched abortion? My state in Oklahoma doesn't allow abortions. Many other states do not allow that. That's great. But for those states that do, as a minimum, we should also track botched abortions, where in this case, we typically think of a doctor who makes a mistake and a life is taken. In this case, a doctor makes a mistake and a life is actually protected. We should be able to know that documented and then to know what's done.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just to have a couple minutes left, tomorrow's the March for Life, which has been held every year since the infamous Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision. It's clear that even after the Dobbs decision and Roe was kicked to the dustbin of history, we still have a fight on our hands to—as we just talked about here, this— common sense piece of legislation to provide aid to a child who survives an abortion. We can't agree on that as public policy. We've got a lot of work to do, Senator. Where do we go from here?
SPEAKER 07 :
We do, even though we weren't outside for an inauguration this week, we will be outside marching for life. It's just as cold in DC, but those tough marchers are going to be out there standing up for the value of every single child. So that's extremely important. I'm telling people more and more. There are folks that are out there saying we should stop talking about this. This is a state issue. Don't discuss anymore. That's exactly the opposite thing we need. We need to talk about it more. Just like I think about 105 years ago, my wife and my daughters couldn't have voted. And I can't believe there was a time in America that women were not allowed to vote. And this generation looks back at that time and is appalled by it. I think 50 years from now, that generation will look back at now and say there was a season where we considered some children valuable and some children disposable, and they'll be appalled by it. But that doesn't happen accidentally. That happens because this generation talks about the value of every child, continues that dialogue, and we continue the work that will take a generation to accomplish. But let's keep going.
SPEAKER 05 :
Josiah, and we cannot overlook the fact that this is spiritual in nature when we look at this battle for life. Yeah. Josiah, I want to thank you for joining us. Senator Lankford, I want to thank you for joining us and for your continued fight for the unborn. I greatly, we all greatly appreciate it. And Josiah, tell your father I said hello.
SPEAKER 07 :
His father did a great job in youth ministry, clearly, Tony.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I could tell you some stories. I could tell you some stories. All right, gentlemen, have a great evening. And folks, I want to thank you for joining us. And let us not give up standing for the unborn. And I leave you with the words of the Apostle Paul, who said, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, you've prepared and you've taken your stand. That's right. When you've taken your stand, just keep standing. Have a good evening.
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In this episode of the M&M Experience, Mike Gallagher and Mark Davis embark on a comprehensive discussion surrounding recent political pardons, specifically focusing on the implications and public reactions to these decisions. Engage with fascinating insights on how media narratives shift when it comes to law enforcement and justice. Dive into the complexities of the justice system concerning January 6th events and explore the ethical dimensions of blanket pardons for those involved.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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Are you getting tired of the winning? I mean, are you getting... I mean, we talk about being deliciously fatigued by keeping track of everything. Do you think... Do people get tired of hearing us just revel in DEI gone, birthright citizenship gone, Green New Deal gone, gender sanity, climate sanity? I mean...
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I said that yesterday repeatedly. Are you tired of winning? It's like it's a dream that we don't want to wake up from. There's so many... And he sat down last night with kind of a freewheeling conversation with Sean Hannity. And I like that Sean asked him about... Look, why pardon people who assaulted cops? And it's a fair question. It's a reasonable question. And his answer was a reasonable one. His answer was, OK, it's what I basically was saying. How long are you going to incarcerate somebody? I mean, and make no mistake, their lives were destroyed. So in other words, this isn't just about being in a nice, cushy jail, and incidentally, anything but. They were shuttled from one prison to another. I mean, the way these people have been treated, let's face it, they're in a different category now, a different class of prisoner. Yeah. Now, to the left and to people who hate Trump and people who hate Trump supporters, that's perfectly okay. That's normal. That's all right. They're a different, they're a more, they tried to overthrow the government, Mark. They're monsters. Democracy was almost, it was in the breach. They were going to hang. Right, they had a guillotine or a noose. I mean, this is all the hysteria, and the gig is up. I mean, it's absolutely, it's over, and some of these judges now are freaking out. I saw one headline this morning, judges push back against Trump's pardon, undoing years of the work they did. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You put years of your work as a as a judge to destroy the lives of people, some of whom maybe let me clarify, many of whom walked into the wrong area. They just were walking because that conviction was parading. that the parading conviction, you went to jail. Some of those January Sixers went to jail. So when he asked Trump about, I think, I asked Julie Kelly yesterday, and if you missed my interview with Julie Kelly, we have it posted on YouTube. I hope you follow my YouTube channel. We're diving our brave new world. We're back into Facebook and Instagram and X and everything else. And Julie Kelly, who's the author of January 6th, and she's on Substack, this you know she pointed out the the the way these prisoners have been regarded it's never been done before it's we've never had this happen this way before and uh you know and and many of these people were they're not afforded due process so she confirmed to me what the Axios reporting said. And the reporting from Axios was that as the Trump team was laboring over case by case, while this person was parading, while this person picked up Nancy's podium, this person broke a window. And finally, Trump's position was, and I certainly won't say the word, but I will say blanket. Yep. Pardon them all. Blanket.
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We're done here.
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Let's just do a blank. We're done here, and let's move on. And Julie confirmed that, which means Trump's position was, you know what? Some of these people probably did bad things.
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Are there a couple of people who, by virtue of attacking, who might have... in a perfect world deserved a little more than four years of jail time. Sure. Okay, fine. But there are scads of people in the George Floyd riots and the BLM riots. And I know it's, this is sort of both sides ism, but who were, but it's true. Who got nothing? Who got nothing?
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That's right.
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They got away with it. They were actually heroes here. Isn't it funny to watch the media culture, Mike in the other day, I guess, night before last, when he came out with the tech guys with that Stargate, the healthcare AI thing, which is just fascinating. I'm excited by that. You phrased it exactly right. AI still scares the bejabbers out of me, but is it a possible force for good in so many ways? You bet. And then after that, he said, okay, I'll take some questions. And the very first questions were, harumph, harumph, President Trump. You've said it's never good to attack a cop. How dare you pardon these people? Suddenly the media culture cares about cops. They didn't care so much about police when George Floyd rioters were beating their brains in.
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And if you look at – and if we're going to talk about pardons, you can't gloss over what Grandpa Joe did with Fauci and Liz Cheney and all the rest of them for crying out loud. These people – if you accept the premise that Anthony Fauci was complicit with China and we did gain of function and everything else, if you accept that premise – I would argue what Fauci did, and I don't know that he did, but I'm just saying if you accept that, that's a heck of a lot worse than anything anybody did on January 6th.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you're talking about subverting democracy? How about what Liz Cheney and this committee did in their breathless zeal to destroy a president? That was a far greater stain and attack on democracy than the admittedly bad act of storming the Capitol. Exactly.
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And he not only has his lifelong pension, I believe he still has security. How do we feel about Trump ripping the Secret Service away from John Bolton? How do you feel about that?
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Okay. It's not my favorite thing. It's not. And John Bolton immediately went whining about that. And my first thought was, relax, John. Iran joins America in no longer caring about you. That having been said, his point was, I'm a target. I've been a tough anti-terror guy, which he has back when we liked him. And if it has been if it has been custom to I mean, who gets it? We know ex-presidents do. Well, that's a good question. Who's entitled to it? If that's been the rule, I don't want it yanked from John Bolton. If every other John Bolton has gotten it for 50 years. But by the same token, that's right. Question. How many people? Secret Service is, I think we've learned, they're a little spread thin, haven't we? So in part of Secret Service reform, we've got to figure who gets protection and who doesn't. Maybe every last hanger on and staffer in every presidency, maybe the line is placed somewhere. I don't know. Does it look vindictive? Is your problem that it looks vindictive because Bolton hates Trump?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, and I don't want anything happening to anybody. I mean, I want everybody to be safe. And some of these people, look, I already got in enough trouble over the pastor, so I'm not going to get in trouble again today.
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I thought about you. Did you see the tour she went on on The View and CNN? Look, hey, Mark, Mark, come on.
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Look, Mark, Mark, how dare you? Every good woman of the cloth has to go to the view. Come on. A woman of God, there's nothing more spiritual than sitting down with Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar. I mean, if that doesn't expose who she is, then nothing does.
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I don't really like working. I'm going to need a priority parking space. I only work remotely. How are your safe spaces? Can I bring my dog to work? Will your company protect me against microaggressions? You're triggering me. Is this interview almost over?
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What's your policy on paying employees to attend protests? I demand eight weeks of vacation. I need at least 12 weeks of paid vacation. I'm going to need a lot of mental health days. Do you have a game room? My pronouns are Zs and Zs.
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What do you think about them yanking the portrait of General Milley off the wall of the Pentagon? Love it. Love it.
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Take them all down. Take them all down. Take out the pliers and the hammer and pull those portraits off the wall. I think you ought to take down Biden's. All right. Incidentally, let's talk grace. Did you see Biden's note to Trump in the desk? Now, first of all, 30 seconds on this. Outgoing presidents leave a little.
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But wait a minute.
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Here's how this was uncovered, though. This is hysterical. Peter Doocy, who is now reporter in residence at the White House. I mean, he gets to ask all the questions. It's a whole new dawn for that young man. He's just the happiest guy going. And he says to Trump in the Oval Office the other night, Have you looked in the desk to see if there's a letter from Biden? Have you seen the letter? And Trump says, this is on TV. I don't know. Is there a letter in here? He opens the drawer and there's the letter. Peter Doocy made Trump. So Trump never opened his desk, the resolute desk. And there was the letter. And it was charming. And it was gracious. And it was great. Well, but I got to talk about the letter. The letter was, hey, I'm praying for you and your family. May America shine. I love you. Did he write it?
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Did he write it?
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Well, but do you write that to Hitler? Do you write that to a fascist? I mean, this is what we mean about they never meant it when they were so... They couldn't have meant it, or don't mean it now. And here's the thing. If you think he's a fascist, well, then you don't need to leave him a letter. Who cares about tradition? Don't leave a letter to the... All right, now let's go down this hive rabbit hole. The hive bakery. lord in heaven above i did a little bit of a deep dive into that woman who owns it in flower mound and you and i got some some mentions all over the country because you you talked about it i talked about it i saw people posting oh mark davis at 6 60 a.m the answer talked about this mike gallagher and mark talked about it this is the lady the trump hating far left loony who's got a bakery in flower mound texas Now, Mark, is Flower Mouth, am I crazy? Is it not a conservative community? Southern Denton County, pretty conservative stretch of territory, yes. Well, she hates apparently the people who live there because she said the MAGA people here are garbage. They're not fit to lick our spoons. We've got the best bakery in Texas and you're all scum because people were asking her to bake MAGA cakes and everything. But I guess she perceived that to be a goof. What if it wasn't a goof?
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Exactly. I thought about this on yesterday. For those who don't know, we're all hopped up about bakeries in conservative land because everybody wanted the conservative bakers to make the gay wedding cake or the trans reveal cake or blah, blah, blah. And the bakers didn't want to do it. And we said, hey, you got the right not to do that. So flip the coin. Does the liberal baker have the right to refuse a MAGA cake? You and I would say, yes, that's a free speech right to. So if they get 50 orders for MAGA cakes at the Hive Bakery. where they got rainbow flags and Beto stickers. Does somebody really want them to do it, or is it just a bit? Are they just trolling?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, how do you know? I mean, you're in the customer service business. If you work at a Publix or a Winn-Dixie and somebody walks in and buys items... But I'd be suspicious.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, but it's not Publix. It's not Winn-Dixie. It's not Kroger.
SPEAKER 05 :
But it's not her role. I know. It's not... Somebody wants to order a dozen cupcakes.
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Well, anyway... But don't you kind of think... Okay, put on... Let's say you and I run the Lib Bakery, the pretty famous Lib Bakery, and we get 10 orders for MAGA cakes. Aren't you going to think, okay, this is a bit. They just want us to make the cake and then they're going to stiff us.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, ask the lady who owns the bakery what she thinks of the guy who doesn't want to bake cakes for a same-sex wedding couple. Good point. I guarantee you she believes that that baker is discriminating for not doing so. So I don't think you get to sit around and say, but here's the bottom line. Yeah. Check out her social media posts. Oh, my Lord. This woman. I've seen them. You have? Not just over recently. I mean, like, how about people who she doesn't like, who, like, complain about. She was complaining about customers who don't like the style of icing she has. In other words, stuff that was completely unrelated to this controversy. I don't know. Just seems testy. Testy? Not since one flew over the cuckoo's nest have we seen testy like this. This woman, and this is the thing. It's beyond politics, Mark. Let's face it. Some of these people are truly, and I'm not saying this to be pejorative here, they're truly mentally ill.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's a mental health issue. It's got to be exhausting to go through life that way.
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But there's also something wrong with some of these people. And I have to respectfully say, ma'am, you might make good cupcakes. Get thee to a counselor. Go to your pastor. Go to a rabbi.
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Well, find some counseling.
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Find some therapy because there's something wrong with her. She was mad about, apparently, some customer complained about what time they closed and she was like, F you. I can close when I want and I'm a baker.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's another talk show. Let's say they close at 6. Did somebody walk in at $5.58 with a really complex order.
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I mean, it's quite the adventure. Look, you want some fun reading? Go into the history of the Hive Bakery and Flower Mound social media posts, and you will go right down that rabbit hole. So, my goodness. All right, well, troops on the way to the border. AOC, what's not to love? Elon Musk's a Nazi. The talk show gods continue to smile on us, my friend. Brave new world for me today. You're a creature of habit. I know how you are about the way you do things in your studio. For 20 years, I've had like 19 monitors. It's like a space shuttle cockpit. I have to have my text messages displayed. I have to have my this. I have to have my – well, they've talked me into going to one monitor total. Oh, my. And I'm doing it to death. I'm scared to death.
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I'm in a sweat. Is smoke going to be pouring off that screen because you've got so much loaded into it?
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I've got like seven screens, but what they've introduced me to are the concept of tabs. I didn't even know about tabs. But you can tab from click, click, click, and you go to one screen. So I'm doing it all today. The show's going to be a disaster. I can't concentrate. I'm shaking. I've got a rash on my forehead. The first time in 20 years I've used one monitor for everything.
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I have an idea. Let's see how the show's going to go. Middle of the show. Yeah, Mike, this is Bill in Philadelphia. I just want to know.
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Eric, I can't get the screen to work.
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Eric, I can't see the monitor. Do you like Trump? Is this a good thing, Mike? I'd like your analysis.
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Tracy, where's my OneNote? Tracy, where's my OneNote? I can't see it, Tracy. Are you okay? Tracy, I can't.
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Yeah, that's the way it's going to go.
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We're in trouble here. So pray for me. I love you. I'm so brave. I'm so brave. Love you too.
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I'm sorry that I'm fat. All right, welcome Health and Wellness Wednesday, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Michael Bailey from Michael Bailey Law. He is our mobile estate planner. He has a program on Wednesdays right before my show, so there's one time each month I do my best to get him to hang around and stay with us because it fits very well into health and wellness on a Wednesday anyways. Not only because do we want to leave our families in good shape if something were to happen to us, but the... We talk about Michael a lot with stress. Stress is literally a killer in a lot of cases. It causes all sorts of health problems and so on. And I will tell you that if you don't get these things taken care of prior to your death, you will stress everybody out once you're gone because that's how it works. It is. I'm sorry to say, but that's how it works.
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It absolutely is. I mean, you know full well that even with estate planning, it's plenty stressful. Yeah. But if you lose a loved one and then you're like, hey, we have absolutely no idea what to do with their stuff or where to go or how to start or who's supposed to get what. Who's making what decisions. We don't even know what they have. We don't know what they had. We're like, okay, well, there's a house. Cool. Well, we probably ought to sell the house. Well, how the heck do we sell the house when we don't know who's supposed to be in charge? You know, all of that, it's just adds, and it's a time when nobody's doing well.
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No, right, exactly. You're already, as a family, friends, whatever, you're already stressed to begin with because of everything that's already happened. Right. On top of that, you now have this additional layer of things that now folks are having to worry about, and that can add another layer of stress. And let me go one step further. Okay.
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that's all the stress if everybody gets along right if if you don't that's now michael a whole nother added layer of stress on top of it right and you may have people who got along before but i've seen it one too many times where mom and dad die and now suddenly the kids are at each other's throats fighting about money and who's supposed to get what and who's supposed to get more and Who got promised what? And I'm like, did mom and dad keep the peace in your house? Or what exactly happened here?
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And what's funny about what you say, and you read these stories all the time, and this is by no means, folks, to put any level of individual up, down, or otherwise. But the reality is people think that only happens to, quote, unquote, rich people. You know what? That can happen over something as simple as the value of a motorcycle. Right. I mean, I'm not joking. You can get into big arguments about things at times where you would think, why are they fighting over this? But they do. The motorcycle or...
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Who gets the coffee pot or who gets the ugly picture of Walla Walla, Washington because that's where grandpa and grandma used to live and so it's their only connection to them or things like that. We down in our basement have a picture of the Sydney Opera House and the Sydney Harbor because when my wife's grandmother moved out of her house, We claimed that. Some people are like, my wife's brothers are like, we thought we wanted to get that. We're like, sorry, it ended up at our house. My wife's family is not such that they're going to get really upset about it, but if somebody really thought they got slighted, then... Point being, everybody thinks this is true. You want to set it up so that you're removing the stress that you can.
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Correct. Well, and the reason I say all that is because there's misconceptions in a lot of areas. This is one of them. Because people see TV shows and things on the news and so on. And Michael, most people think that what I just talked about only happens to people that have a And frankly, and this is probably somewhat true, the more you have and the better you've done at dealing with it, i.e. meeting with you and so on, the less issues there actually are. So my point is a lot of these arguments happen to people that, frankly, probably aren't on the upper end of the income level because they never thought it was important enough to do anything about it.
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Right. It's the kind of average Joe Middle type of person. Where you're like, okay, you've got somebody who worked for, say, the post office their entire life. They were a letter carrier. And they made a decent living, they paid off their house, and then got into retirement, had their pension, and then they die. And they've got what was kind of a really cool, brand new, awesome, amazing neighborhood house in, say, Commerce City, And now they pass away. And so now they've got a house in Commerce City. And Commerce City House, you know, you can sell it for, you know, they've maybe paid, you know, $15,000, $20,000 for it. Back in the day. Yep. But now it's worth $300,000 or $400,000. Right. And so, you know, they die. They're going to pass it on to their four kids. So there's about $100,000 apiece. Well, $100,000 is not going to make you rich. Right. But $100,000 is enough that you can get really upset about it. And then if you go, oh, well, mom and dad, before they died, they had a reverse mortgage, which is not for everybody, but not a terrible thing.
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And it's common in some cases.
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You're like, okay, so mom and dad, in order to live so that you didn't have to pay for them, had a reverse mortgage. So now yours is only $300,000 worth of value in the house. So it's $75,000 per person. Mm-hmm. Well, what if one of the kids was the one that encouraged mom and dad to have the reverse mortgage? Well, hey, you cost me $25,000. Now they're getting blamed. That's right. And now they're angry and bitter, and you're like, whoa, let's... Slow this train down. We're trying to... preserve your family through what is a very trying time.
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Yes. And it is. And some of you have been through that. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Some of you have been very diligent, by the way, in getting all of these things dialed in. Although I talked to an individual yesterday that will be calling you in the not too distant future because they don't. Yep. And we had that conversation yesterday that yes, you need to. And this is an individual that does have some assets in a business and some other things. And it's like, yeah, you, you are a, You know, you of all people really need to make sure you get this stuff dialed in. Right.
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Well, and you said the word business. I'm like, well, if you're a business owner, who's taking over? Are you sure your kids want to do it? Are you sure? They may not. And if your kids have the ability to do it. Right. Or, you know, ability, desire, whatever, you know, it's one of those things, you know, most small businesses disappear when the owner dies.
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Absolutely. Happens all the time.
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And if that's what you, I mean, I mean, you know, the Michael Bailey law office will probably cease to exist when Michael Bailey ceases to exist. but I can pass my clients on to somebody else who will then make sure that my clients are taken care of. Because although my clients tell me I'm young, my kids tell me I'm old, and I know for a while I'm middle-aged. So you plan for this, say, okay, when something happens, and because of the way that life works and the interlopers and the ne'er-do-wells who are going to come in and try to do things, If you walk into a bank and say, oh, well, my dad died. I need to withdraw all his money. The bank's going to be like, okay, there's a whole process we have to go through here because they don't want to just hand out money willy-nilly.
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Well, A, legally they can't.
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Right.
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So I've been through some of that of late, and there is a lot more hoops to jump through than most people think. Let's just say that. Right.
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So we're trying to— help you know which hoops to jump through, or give you the proper paperwork so when there's a hoop, you can jump through it.
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There you go. And it does work, folks. I'm a living testament to that. You guys all know kind of what happened to me this past winter, or sorry, this past summer, fall, with my folks. And Michael, fortunately, because I made my folks go see Michael years ago, a decade ago almost. And because of that, yes, things go much more smoothly when you have those things dialed in, Michael. Right.
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And you say it was almost a decade ago that I met with your parents, but everything was in place and it sat there for a decade. It didn't matter. It was all good to go. And then it needed to be used. That's right. All good to go. People think there's like an expiration date on it. I'm like, no, there's actually not. We just need to make sure that you're set up for when things happen.
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Get them all dialed in. All right. Appointment-wise, how far out are you right now? April 8th, 9th. Okay. And I say this all the time. Get on the schedule. Get on his docket. Get all that dialed in. In the meantime, once you're on the schedule, start maybe in the back of your mind or even on paper, start figuring out how would I like to do some of these things so that it makes things a little quicker when you actually do something. you know, have that meeting with Michael. And then after that's all said and done, you'll go back and forth on some questions and different things. And before you know it, you've got everything all dialed in. And for the majority of you, that's probably all you'll need to do. For some of you that have businesses and so on and have growth and assets and so on, you may want to review that every five years or so. Right. Or when your kids go from being young to being old.
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Or when major changes happen. You know, just when you do it so that it reflects your current life.
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There you go. All right. So with that, you can always find Michael by going to any of my websites, RushToReason.com, Drive-Radio.com. Honestly, anywhere you find me, you can pretty much find Michael. On top of that, you can go to KLZRadio.com. Last but not least, how do they call you? 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. There you go, folks. And I encourage you to get that done sooner than later. Michael, as always, appreciate you very much.
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Thanks for having me.
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All right, we are back. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Question of the day. What was the name of the German military's plan to invade the Soviet Union in 1941, and what did it ultimately fail to achieve? It was Operation Barbarossa, which aimed to conquer the Soviet Union but failed due to harsh winter conditions and fierce Soviet resistance. Today's Impossible Question, which novel published in 1818... is considered the first true science fiction novel and who authored it? So which novel published in 1818 is considered the first true science fiction novel and who authored it? All right, I want to talk for just a moment. I was going to try to get a special guest on, but I knew we'd be a little bit tighter on time today. We've got a special guest joining us at the bottom of the hour. Kylie Larson's going to join us, and we're going to talk about It is actual this week is National Healthy Weight Week. So we're going to talk about dieting and how to do well with your optimal health and staying on a diet and so on. So we'll get into that here in just a few minutes. So I thought something we haven't talked about for a while. And I do bring guests on from time to time. But again, didn't quite have the ability to do that today because this is a deeper topic that when I get a guest on, they can go for literally almost a full 20, 25 minute talk. but that's brain health. There is a direct correlation, and I've had these folks on in the past, the experts when it comes to brain health, and they will tell you there's a direct correlation between your diet and your brain health. Now, what does that mean exactly? Well, and again, I've had specialists on that have talked about even the types of food you should be eating, what you should be doing in regards to your intake and so on. But in a nutshell... Focus on nutrient-dense foods that are rich in healthy fats. Because, again, we talk a lot about the fat sides of things. And, by the way, this is something that I feel maybe this will change even under the Trump administration. But there's a lot of misinformation when it comes to fats. We were told forever, don't eat fat. Don't eat fat, don't eat fat, don't eat fat. Fat bad, fat bad, fat bad. Well, that's not totally true. It's the type of fat that you're eating that's bad. Some fats we actually need. It's healthy. It's what our brains need, brain health, brain function. So rich in healthy fats, lean protein and antioxidants, and then, of course, as I'm talking now, incorporate fatty fish, nuts, seeds, colorful fruits, and vegetables. And really what they tell you is if you're looking at your plate, how colorful is it? And in a lot of ways. You can literally look at your meal and decide, is this a healthy meal or not? Do I have some fruits? Do I have some veggies? What am I eating as far as the protein is concerned? And I know some people are much better at preparation and cooking and all of that, but literally anybody can make these things work. You don't have to be a gourmet chef. and be able to cook that way to serve your family a proper balanced meal. And yes, I understand, and this is something that I probably should bring a special guest on at some point and really discuss proper cooking techniques, not how to prepare food and keep it sanitary and so on, but literally how do you do certain things with certain foods? Because unfortunately, we live in a day and age where a lot of people were raised where nobody cooked. Either they went out or they were pre-done meals and things just got warmed up, microwave, whatever, and people didn't learn how to cook. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. There are many an individual, it's not even young anymore, many an individual that literally could be in their 30s on down, maybe even 40s on down, that never learned how to cook. And believe me, I've met these people. And it's not judgment. This is not being critical of anybody. They just were never taught how to properly cook. And I always say it this way. Some of them are lucky to boil water, and I'm not exaggerating. Now, for a lot of you listening, myself included, we look at that and think, you know, how hard is it? Well, it's not hard for us because we were taught how to do it. I mean, I was taught how to cook certain things at a very young age. I'm sure, Charlie, you were as well. I mean, there were things I was cooking when I was probably not more than 8, 9, 10 years of age. And you just learned how to do certain things, fend for yourself in certain ways. I mean, by the time I was 10, you know, I could cook up my own breakfast, eggs, bacon, whatever you were doing, and off you go. Now, could I do a gourmet meal? You know, could I layer together lasagna and bake it and do all the things necessary at that age? Of course not. But could I cook basic things and get by? Yes. Unfortunately, we live in a day and age where, believe it or not, a lot of people can't because they were never taught. Some folks don't even know what temperature to even set the pan at or the oven at or whatever it is they happen to be cooking. And, again, I'm not exaggerating when I say this. They don't know, in some cases, even how to turn the oven on. So... As I'm talking about this, if you have folks in your family where you're thinking to yourself, have I really ever taught them how to do these things? You should probably take a peek at that and, if not, really get into teaching, at least the next generations, plural, how to cook. Because that goes along with what we're talking about. Stay physically active. That's our next bullet point when it comes to optimizing brain health. Regular exercise promotes blood flow to the brain, encourages the growth of new neural connections. Engage in mental challenges. Activities like puzzles, reading, learning new skills, they stimulate the brain and help maintain cognitive sharpness. So that's one of those things, especially if you might have a history in your family of dementia, Alzheimer's, something along those lines. It might benefit you, might, because there's no concrete evidence of this. Some of these are definitely a might, although it's not going to hurt anything. If you've got the propensity in your family to have these things, doing these things that I'm talking about especially would help. Not going to hurt anything. And keeping your brain sharp through whatever it is you enjoy doing and not just sitting, vegging out, watching TV is a way to keep your mental sharpness up. Prioritizing sleep. We talk a lot in this particular hour and have interviewed many, many an expert in this area on sleep. And yes, it's very important. Now, as I say all the time, how much sleep you get depends on you. Everybody's different. 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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, welcome back. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Appreciate you all listening. Kylie Larson joining us now from Elemental Coaching. Kylie, welcome. Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you for having me, John.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I appreciate it very much. This is National Healthy Weight Week. Let's talk a little bit about dieting. And I know you guys specialize in the female end of things, but really what we're going to talk about will apply to anybody, I assume.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, I was just listening to you before we got on together, and yes, we're going to talk about a lot of the same things.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, perfect. All right. So we're going to talk about breaking free. Let's start here. Breaking free from the diet culture while still maintaining optimal health. And I think... Kylie, this is one of the things I wanted you to chat about was this time of the year, January of every year, everybody decides, I'm going to get healthy, going to lose weight, going to drop those extra pounds. They go out, they look at all the different fad diets that are out there, and they may find one that maybe somebody they knew did really well at, and so, boom, they're on that fad diet.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. I mean, the bottom line is traditional diets, what people think of as diets, They don't work because they don't work long term. And so what you really want to do is find a sustainable way to eat. that suits the goals that you're trying to achieve. So dieting, the way I look at it, dieting is not a long-term strategy. Learning how to eat, like you were talking about learning how to cook, is actually what you need to do so that you have that long-term success so that you're not starting over every single January. And that's like a best-case scenario. Most people are starting over like every week, every three months, etc.,
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point. No, you are right. And unfortunately, and I don't know how else to say this. Unfortunately, in this country, we have done honestly a very poor job of teaching everyone, not just, you know, old people, but young people as well. We have not done a very good job of teaching people really what to eat, how to eat, how much to eat, when to eat and so on. Am I right in saying that?
SPEAKER 16 :
You're absolutely right. Honestly, that's what I always say. When women come to my program, and I also work with men sometimes, I'm like, I'm going to teach you how to eat. And I know that sounds so funny, but no one taught you. And it does boil down to how to eat and the way in which we do it. One of the things I coach people through is slowing down when they eat, not multitasking when they eat. Because when you're not present when you're eating, you're more likely to overeat.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, because you're kind of going back to the brain health thing I was talking about a moment ago. Your brain's engaged in one thing, yet you're eating and shoveling food in on this other side. And by the way, not saying you can't go and fellowship and enjoy a meal and so on. I'm not talking about that, but I know where you're going with this, Kylie. The bottom line is unless you're really focused on what you're doing eating-wise, you'll get sidetracked. And to your point, you'll eat the wrong things and overeat at the same time.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. Like you're not going to know when you're full. You don't have the bandwidth to recognize, oh, I'm full now. I will stop eating whatever it is that you're eating.
SPEAKER 17 :
You kind of go into this autopilot, if you would, where you've always been doing it. You're kind of shoveling the food in. You're you're not chewing as much as you should, which we could talk about that even because even that sends a signal to your brain. I mean, there's all these things going on if we're doing it correctly. But when we don't, the food just gets shoveled in literally.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. I mean, think about how many times you've been sitting there watching your favorite television show and your hand just automatically keeps going into that popcorn ball or that bag of chips.
SPEAKER 17 :
And we're all guilty of it. I mean, everybody listening, please. I am not you know, I'm not an angel by any means in this. I have to watch this. And you don't know my backstory, Kylie. But in 2010, I lost over 100 pounds. So I learned a lot of things along the lines of what you're talking about and how you have to have this entire mental shift and how you look at things and do things. And I will be the first to tell everybody that for me, that is a daily battle struggle I deal with constantly, because if I didn't, I'd weigh 300 plus pounds again.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. First of all, congratulations on that. And you really hit the nail on the head when you talked about this identity shift. Once we start to identify as healthy eaters or people who are healthy, then we're more likely to be able to follow through on all the behaviors that you and I will continue to talk about and everything you were talking about earlier.
SPEAKER 17 :
And again, for all of you listening, it's – how should I say this, Kylie? It's a mental shift. I've caught people where I'm not – I'm a business coach. I'm not a diet coach. But I've taught people and I've caught some people at times, Kylie, where you're helping them through something and they're on a diet and so you're trying to encourage them and they're trying to lose weight and so on and so forth. And one of the things that I've had to correct some folks on at times is they'll say things like, oh, man. I can't wait till I get to my goal weight because then I can eat such and such again. And I'm like, OK, time out. Not to be rude or accusatorial, but yeah, you might be able to have that at times, minimally speaking. But if you just go back to what you were doing and you eat that all the time, then why are you doing this? Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. And that's exactly why diets don't work. It goes back to that long-term sustainability. If you're only on a diet for a short period of time, even if you do have wild success, but you eliminate so many foods so that when the holidays roll around or a birthday party rolls around or vacation, you can't maintain your diet. You will never, ever, ever stay where you want to go, and you'll be on this hamster wheel forever. And that's why I like – I mean, I take a very – abundance mindset approach to dieting. Like, incorporate the food that you love. If you love ice cream, well, then let's try and have a little bit of ice cream every now and then so you're not constantly craving it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 16 :
Otherwise, we know what's going to happen, right? True. Willpower runs out. True. All of a sudden, we're running down the subway. No, no, no. You are.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're a thousand percent correct. I talked about stress a little bit ago as well. I mean, you get into that stress area and something's happened and all of a sudden things are out of whack. And if they're like me, which I am, I'm not a I'm not somebody that ever got addicted to drugs and I never got addicted to alcohol as an alcoholic. But I can tell you I was addicted to food, Kylie, because that's my release. That's that's what I enjoy. So when things get to that point, you eat.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. Exactly. And it's not you. It's just the systems that you have set up in place. You also really need to set up your environment for success. And part of that is incorporating foods that you love, but then also not always having these very tempting, high-reward foods constantly around, like coming back to that addiction. Is it hitting that dopamine spot where you're like, yes, crunchy, salty, sweet, boom, I want more, I want more, I want more? Mm-hmm. So that you aren't tempted all the time.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, you're right. And, you know, the other thing that I think is that I want to talk about for a moment that is a big misconception because I've encountered people along these lines. Everybody thinks that when you eat healthy and do things right, it costs more money. than by not doing that. And I will tell you that that is wrong thinking because if you do it correctly and you're eating the right things at the right times and you're managing the things that we've even talked about so far, you actually find yourself eating less and spending less money when it's all said and done.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Like I always tell people going out to lunch, I think, is the biggest waste of money.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it is the one thing that you could easily like it'll save your bank account and your waistline.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
Like you're you're paying 16 bucks even if you just go to like Chipotle now. Right. Plus how many calories?
SPEAKER 17 :
You're right. And by the way, that same person that I would have been talking to a moment ago that says, oh, man, dieting is just so expensive. I can't eat those foods is the same person doing what you just said.
SPEAKER 16 :
But also, even if it were more expensive, is there any better investment that you could make than in your health?
SPEAKER 17 :
No. No.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, especially business owners, people that you're working with and you're coaching, like you have to be well if you are a business owner. You are your business.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. No. And and I will be the first to tell everybody and most business owners know this, that that is a really hard thing to get dialed in because you're so busy. You've got a bunch of things going on. You are juggling multiple things at one time, typically. So stopping and eating correctly. Honestly, Kylie, for a lot of owners is sort of at the bottom of the list. But to your point, it should be at the top of the list.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. You are your most valuable employee.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Right, yeah. If you're not running correctly, the business won't either.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so outside of some of the things that we've just mentioned, because I'm sure as a coach you've got many little tips and tricks and things that you can help people with, and I'm also one, Kylie, where I don't believe in a one-size-fits-all. I know everybody's different. Metabolisms are different. Male, female, age, activity level, hereditary things and so on. In my opinion, there is not a one-size-fits-all diet. Is that true?
SPEAKER 16 :
That's absolutely true. Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
So how do you, when you're interviewing somebody and having, because we'll get into that in a moment as well, but as you're going through that process and learning about somebody, how do you determine those parameters?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, there are a couple basics that most people want to be following, but then I also take into account lifestyle and preferences, right? I'm not going to put a busy mother of four who might also be a business owner on a really strict exercise routine, um, and a really rigid diet because she's got kids around. She doesn't have a lot of time. I'm going to give her more flexibility within those parameters. So it's really about looking into what are their lifestyle and preference and preferences like and how can I help set you up for success? Cause I think that's one of the biggest barriers that people encounter. They go in full bore, jumping in headfirst, and then all of a sudden they realize that they're in over their heads, and they've set themselves up to fail, which is why they don't feel successful. They quit, and they're like, I'll never be able to do this.
SPEAKER 17 :
They're discouraged. They didn't have a win, if you would. I mean, it's almost like coaching business owners. When you get a few little wins, you become encouraged to go do the next big thing. When all you have is defeat after defeat, you don't want to do it anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. So to your point, how do I help determine who does what? I really just look at their lifestyle and their preferences, and I try and make it as easy as possible so that they can be successful. And you know the whole confidence-competence loop. The more confident they get, the more competent. It's a win-win. Success gets more success. And then once you start getting those quick wins, it's like you want them. You want to do more. Your bandwidth expands. Your habits are dialed in. And it's this snowball effect. And, I mean, it gets me excited to think about how you can really help someone.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, thank you. I mean, I know, A, I wanted to have you on for that reason alone. B, this time of the year, people are looking for ways that they can change their lifestyle, lose weight, whatever the case may be. We have a vast audience, by the way, young, old, male, female, literally. We've got a vast audience, multi-state that we cover. Reality is people need help in this area because, as I said earlier, even about the cooking end of things, Kylie – Most have never been taught these basic things.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it's so true. That's why it all goes back to like actually learning how to feed yourself properly. And that's why I'm against, like, all of the diets, because people know how to diet. People know how to restrict. True. They do not know how to nourish themselves properly.
SPEAKER 17 :
True. All right. Elemental coaching. Let's talk about that for a moment. You've got a nice website. I was there. I checked everything out. And for all of you listening, I would encourage you to go there. and look at it and really kind of get dialed in. So question, Kylie, and I'm sure most people, if they go to the website, are going to ask the same thing. Do they do one-on-one? Do they do some group stuff? What's the best thing for them to do once they get to the website?
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. I like the group coaching the best so that you get a solid foundation to see where you need to go next. Okay. So you can also get that group learning, although I know a lot of busy business owners don't have time for group stuff, so I do have one-on-one coaching options also available. It's just when you start with the group, you get the foundation, you get the nuts and bolts, you get the springboard so that you can jump to that next place.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. When it comes to, because you see a lot of things out there today also where, you know, you go to the gym and they'll give you your full body scan and, you know, what's your BMI and, you know, you should weigh every day and measure all of these different points on your body. You know, what do you do in that regard when it comes to getting people, you know, started where they can see the wins? You know, how do you get them started along those lines?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I'm a big fan of data. You know, no different than looking at financial data and making good business decisions based on that information versus emotion.
SPEAKER 07 :
I got it.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm a huge fan of data, but it's important that we're tracking the right thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So first of all, in order to get quick wins, I want to focus more on performance goals and consistency with habits. So rather than saying, oh, did I lose two pounds this week? How many times did I get to the gym? How many times did I go to bed on time? How many servings of vegetables did I get? So that you look at that data and see, am I on the right track? If you fix the inputs, the outputs happen automatically, right? The output will happen.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 16 :
So that's what I'm interested in tracking first. Now, as it comes to body composition and scale weights, I am actually a big fan of frequent weigh-ins, so you get accustomed to seeing your body's daily fluctuations.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep, I agree.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just like watching the stock market. I agree. It goes up, it goes down. We don't need to freak out.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, because it's going to change. Again, just like your stock, it may go up a little bit one day, it may come down the next day. Weight can do the same thing. Sometimes you eat some things that will make you retain a little bit of water and fluid. So you've got to keep all of that in mind. But ultimately, to your point, it's that old saying, if you're not tracking it, how do you know if you're making any progress?
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly, because people will come to me all the time and they'll say, I don't think it's working. And I'm like, well, how do you know? What data do we have? So I'm big on making outcome-based decisions. What is the data telling us? Not your emotions. But then I do want to touch on the BMI. Not a fan. Not a fan of the BMI. Because now, if you're an athletic-built person or a bigger-boned person, you might be considered overweight when you aren't. I am more... I'm more interested in body composition. What is your percentage of body fat? What is your waist measurement? What are those things doing? But again, big fan of the data so we can make the best decisions possible for your next step.
SPEAKER 17 :
You are speaking my language. I like that. It's one of the things that I was taught back in the day when I lost all of my weight and even some of the things that you just talked about and how you track things and look at things and the day-to-day end of things. And, yeah, I know sometimes it can sound a little bit overbearing and maybe a little bit burdensome. But to your point, Kyle, like my business clients I have, if you don't know the numbers, how do you know what to change?
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. This is just like business. I love that you're a business coach because it's the exact same message for both parties.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is. It is. No, you're absolutely right. Okay, I also know that you specialize on the lady side of the fence, which is great. On the same token, you said you would also do some things for men. Now, I also know that with age... body composition, hereditary things. Everybody can kind of come into different things in their life at different times, and I will be the first to tell you that when I turned 55, luckily I lost weight way before that, because when I turned 55, it got a lot harder to do these things than it was prior.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, yes, it's true.
SPEAKER 17 :
Age is not a help, let's just say that.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's not a help, and for the female population... Even though we all have different genetics and everything, the one thing all of the female listeners are going to go through is perimenopause. And that's when our hormones start to shift. And it will rock your world if you are not prepared, if you don't have certain habits established. So everything we talk about, it's not that anything is different necessarily for perimenopausal and menopausal women. It's just even more important.
SPEAKER 17 :
Makes sense? No, absolutely. Okay, for those of you listening, it's TheElementalCoaching.com. I'll have a link up in our show notes as well a little bit later, but TheElementalCoaching.com. You can go to the website. You can do everything you need. You can sign up. I mean, again, Akali, I was there not wanting to steal any of your thunder, but you guys make it really easy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you, John. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Very good job. And so, again, for all of you listening, I would highly encourage you to, again, set those goals, figure out where you want to be. For some of you, it may be just, hey, you know what? I'm tired of looking at that extra X on my shirts or whatever. Or, you know, hey, I'm out of breath when I tie my shoes. You know, what do I need to do to get some of these things back on track? And Kylie, that's what you guys are there for.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. I'm here to simplify it for you.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Kylie, I appreciate it. As you can tell, you're in great company. You are welcome back anytime, anything that comes up where you would like to get a little extra push on something and remind people of things. Please reach out. You're welcome here anytime.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you, John. I appreciate it. Keep up the great work.
SPEAKER 17 :
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I had a text message that came in about the time I was talking to Kylie, and I'm sorry it's hard for me to read those, and then ask her questions at the same time. Somebody had the question of, what if you're a smaller person and can only lose weight if you're at about that 1,000-calorie-a-day mark? Well, I will tell you that as somebody that's not small, but I'm 5'10", 200-ish pounds roughly, and I will tell you that I cannot take weight off And I will pick up weight if I eat any more than about 1,500 to 1,800 calories a day. So I can relate. Now, what I will tell you is, you that texted, might be a really good idea to just contact Kylie, ask that question, and say, hey, here's where I'm at. Here's what I have to do. And I do know that there are certain things that they as coaches can do that can help get you dialed in to where you might be able to do some things and change some things, dietarily speaking, that help your metabolism. Right. that then allow you to eat a little bit more but still do what you need to do weight-wise. And I'm not going to get into all the details because there are different tricks of the quote-unquote trade that they can do that unless you've had somebody like them as a coach, you won't know what some of those things are. And this is where, no, don't go to the Internet. Don't look for all those things because the reality is you'll be all over the map. contact her directly, ask those questions, and find out exactly what would work better for you. And I guarantee you she will have some answers for you. Let her know, of course, that you heard her on air here. And I guarantee you she will be more than willing to assist you. Again, all of that working into not only our goals that we may have for our health for 2025. I started off the day talking about the whole brain health end of things, which that also helps with. So all in all, you know, we do health and wellness on Wednesdays to help that whole end of things. And as Kylie said, and I'm a firm believer in this. If you're a business owner, by the way, the healthier you are, the healthier your business will be. And I cannot stress that enough. So, yes, let's make 2025 a great year when it comes to our overall health across the board, including our brain. And that is it for this first hour of Health and Wellness Wednesday. We'll be back with Richard Battle in just one moment. Don't go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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And we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, how are you, sir?
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Good afternoon, John. We're doing fantastic. The air's cleaner. The water's cleaner. The birds are happier. The sun shines brighter. It's a new, new deal.
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and global warming has ended because it's snowed all along the Gulf Coast.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we had snow yesterday. It's gone today, but I tell people, just think how bad it would be if we didn't have global warming.
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There you go. A new beginning and a new hope, and yes, indeed.
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Well, yes, we had a New Deal 90 years ago under Franklin Roosevelt, and while it's not being called a new New Deal anymore, To me, that's in effect what we're getting because there's going to be a turning away from a lot of those concepts and government agencies and how things are done. And this is our last great hope to return to the federalism and small-R republicanism of our country.
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And for those of you that maybe don't believe that or understand that, some of the executive orders that have already been handled, that are out-signed as of right now because it's 6 o'clock on the East Coast, Richard, there is a lot of federal workers inside of DEI programs. that are now on paid leave, that also have mandates from their higher-ups to fire them. That is the next thing that will be happening. They're eliminating basically all of the DEI nonsense that's been inside of government. That, by the way, will spread into the private sector. On top of that, there is a hiring freeze in the federal government, which he also did. I believe even that one was on Monday, Richard. Both of those, by the way, were much needed.
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Well, absolutely, because we've got such a bloated government who makes work, if you will, to try to justify their existence versus doing things that benefit the country because we're spending way too much money, and that's the reason for the deficit. And if we can reprioritize and only take in the revenue we need and only spend the revenue we take in, we will be a lot healthier, and you and I and the listeners will be freer and have more money in our pockets.
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The other thing that he did to Richard along those lines is which, again, you know, some people may argue with, but I think it was the right move. All federal workers back in the office, no more remote work, which I'm sure some of those are very upset about. And again, I I will be the first to say I've said this many times on air, Richard. There's a small percentage of people that work remotely that do really well and can excel. The other 95 plus percent don't.
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Well, yes, and this applies to people who used to work in the office all the time, and only 6% of the federal government workers are back working in the office. That's unheard of in the private sector. And so this is something that's normal in the private sector, and we have had worse services from people working remotely. We, the citizens, for what we're paying for, and hopefully... This will get them back in the office as well as, to use the term in the private sector, right-size the organizations for the staff needed for the work that's needed to be done.
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The other thing, and I know it's not in our notes, Richard, but the other thing I think that we'll start seeing incorporated, because I think you'll see the likes of Elon Musk and others work on this, and that is working AI more into what's going on governmentally speaking. And you and I both know there are so many things that happen inside of government that, frankly, don't need any bodies, you know, any bodies there to handle. You could automate so many different things inside of government that, frankly, because We've always done it this way. We can't do that, according to them.
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Well, that's exactly correct. And that's, again, another advantage of the people coming in, because so many of them have private sector work experience and leadership experience. And so many people in the past administration never worked anywhere but government.
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Right.
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And so you get this incestuous situation where no one comes up with new ideas or No one wants to change. And so it perpetuates this, doing it the same way forever and ever.
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We've got lots of examples of poor government leadership. The biggest one we saw of late with the California fires, Richard. And I've said this on air publicly. I really think that's going to affect the politics in California. And I will go as far as to say that I believe Gavin Newsom, as governor of California, has probably seen his political career end once he's done being governor.
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Well, I hope so, but he's almost had an eternal life, and he's one of the members of the four big families in California, and if there's anyone who could survive this, he could, although I hope he doesn't.
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Yeah, and again, because of the mismanagement and things that have happened there, and you could be right, he may, although there's a lot of individuals in California right now not happy with him.
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Well, and I agree, and I hope he doesn't. I'm just saying that he's part of the Pelosi family and the Leland-Stanford family and all the big four families that have run California for the last 100-plus years, and he's been their kind of golden child, so we'll see how much protection he gets.
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One of the things I think you're going to see under Donald Trump, because you're already starting to see it, is a return to individual liberty. In other words, not even democracy, but each one of us having individual liberty, which is what a constitutional republic is all about.
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Well, exactly. And this is one of the things that frosts my cake. And we saw people in Washington Monday, and everyone on the other side, they'll talk about democracy all the time. They will never use the word republic. And we are a constitutional republic, and a republic protects the minority viewpoint, whereas a pure democracy runs the minority viewpoint over. And I think it's important for us to point that out and return not only the republic, but return talking about it so that the citizens know why it's beneficial for all of us.
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That's right. You're also seeing him drive political and economic freedom. Now, with all of that, by the way, there are some personal responsibilities, which I talk about constantly on this show, that come with that.
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Well, absolutely. And we need people to realize that if they want the freedoms that the country can give and have given in the past, that we have to do certain things. And so it means government not being the provider of first choice in a disaster. It means families helping each other in the church and neighbors and community and the state. And finally, the feds last if we want to make the government small. And I always talk about the story in Galveston because the hurricane in 1900 killed over 6,000 people at least. Wow. And they rebuilt the town. They put a 17-foot seawall up to stop the storm surges from flooding the island. And then each property owner was responsible for raising their own property 17 feet higher and having their building on top of that 17-foot increase. It took 10 years to complete. Everyone had to provide their own solution for that. And that is totally unheard of these days. Like in California, people have a fire, and they immediately expect the federal government to rebuild their houses without any cost at all.
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That's right. The other thing that I noticed on Monday, and I talked about it a little bit, but since you're here, let's talk a little more. The one thing that Trump said that I really appreciated was, we're going to be colorblind and merit-based.
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Well, merit-based is so important because that's what gives people the opportunity to perform well. and excel and climb the ladder and be more successful in life because things aren't stacked against you. And yes, in the past, we had things stacked against certain groups, but that's no reason for us to stack things against other groups today. And you can't take unequal people in unequal circumstances and the government come in and give them unequal remedies and end up with equality.
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Yep, you are. And again, I appreciated that about Donald Trump, and he delivered on that by doing what he's done with some of the executive orders when it comes to DEI and other things. Reality, Richard, is people should be rewarded for what they do, not who they are.
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Yes, and when I worked for the city I grew up in as a kid during the summer sometimes, and you went out and worked hard, some of the workers would say, hey, stop working so hard, you're making me look bad. We want people to go out and work hard and excel, and the other people have to work to catch up or else leave.
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Yep. You close with this, your last sentence. Public service should be temporary and a sacrifice versus an all-you-can-take buffet. And the reality, Richard, is government has gotten in. By the way, this is across the board. You can go to a local county. You can go to state. Yeah, I know there's a few counties and maybe there's some exceptions. But by and large, Richard, you can pretty much go to any government entity, and this is true, unfortunately.
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Yes, it is, and it happens across the political spectrum. Unfortunately, it's all you can take. People think they have a right. It's their turn now when they get into office because other people are doing it, and we see people. make vast sums of money in political service when it should be a public service job. And we need to punish people who do that, regardless of what political party they're in.
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Agreed. Richard Battle, as always, I appreciate you joining us. Your books are always available on your website. Talk about how folks can grab a hold of one of those. They can get them signed as well. And I know, folks, it might sound early, although, Richard, the time will fly by the time folks are looking at graduations and things along those lines.
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Well, thank you. RichardBattle.com is our website. All 11 books are there. The latest is Americans Who Made America, the 18th Century Birth of the Republic. If you order there and email me, we're happy to inscribe the books. If you email me, richard at richardbattle.com. They're all on Amazon and other places as well, including Kindle and audio versions.
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All right. Richard, as always, I appreciate you very much.
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Always my pleasure. God bless America.
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God bless you too, Richard. I do appreciate that. We'll have Sonny Kutcher, by the way, joining us at the bottom of the hour, and we're going to shift our breaks around a little bit today and so on. So if you hear us go a little bit longer on a break, you'll know why. I wanted to get some things changed around along those lines, and we'll have plenty of time to talk to Sonny as well. Before we do that, though... Some of you may have seen the video, and there's some audio on it as well, but the prayer gathering that happened after the inauguration. And I was not able to watch that live. I pretty much watched the inauguration a few things afterwards, watched his speech to those supporters that were there that were not able to actually be in the room for the inauguration itself. And after that, I kind of turned it off, really didn't think much about it. Well... There is a bishop, Marianne Edgar Budde, I'm not saying that right. Do you know how to say her last name, Charlie? B-U-D-D-E. Who holds one of the most prestigious, I should say, clerical posts as a bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington. Now, by the way, whoever put her in as somebody to pray for the president should have done a little bit of fact checking on her. Because reality is she is a total dyed in the wool, hate Trump lefty. has been very outspoken on that from the get-go. Why somebody thought, other than probably somebody that set this up was a lefty themselves, why somebody thought it would be a good idea to have her praying for President Trump as he starts his term is beyond me. She had the gall—yes, I'm saying it that way. She had the gall, and I know there's a lot of lefties that are praising her for what she said, but she had the gall to basically, in the prayer itself— chide Trump and preach to him, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that, on the LGBTQ crowd, the illegal immigrant crowd, and so on. And you can watch this and know exactly what she said, you know, verbatim. But the reality is she basically got all over Trump's case because of his positions, much like my and your positions when it comes to illegal immigration. the wokeness, DEI, all of the different things that go along there, that go along with that. And she literally, and I'm not exaggerating, chided him and... What's interesting is a lot of the video isn't even of her. It's of the crowd. Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, their wives and kids and so on. And all you have to do is look at the faces of the individuals, not just Donald Trump, as this lady is spewing out all of this nonsense. And it is utter nonsense. And you look at these folks and they're just like, what are we doing? What are we doing here? I'll just say it straight up. They're better men than me because I would have got up and left. I wouldn't have sat there. I don't care whether that would have ruffled feathers or not. I would have stood up and left. But that's me. Well, Charlie said it wasn't a prayer, but it was at the prayer service. Yeah, she was praying, but it wasn't a prayer. Thank you, Charlie. Yes, that's a good way to say it. Yeah, it was presented as a prayer, but it wasn't. It was a sermon against Donald Trump. And wrong place, wrong time. If you want to have those feelings, great. We live in a free country. You're free to have those feelings. It is a free country. Freedom of speech. We will protect that at all costs. But again, wrong place, wrong time. And again, I've read all sorts of things from the left that praise her. And, you know, she had guts to do something. And she's going to now be on Trump's hit list and this, that and the other. And by the way, that's all utter nonsense also. Trump did come out and say, you know, you owe all of us and your church an apology. Because reality is, that's not what that event was about. And furthermore, you are forgetting what a lot of these illegal aliens have actually done once they've arrived here. You're making a blanket statement, making them sound like, you know, they're all choir boys. I'm paraphrasing Trump, but she made, in her speech to Trump, it wasn't a prayer. She basically made it sound like every immigrant that arrived is a choir boy. We all know that's not true. Even folks that have come here and have immigrated legally are upset about the way we've had open borders and the people that we have allowed to come through. So the reality is this particular, in my opinion, bishop should be canned. Won't happen, of course. There are those on the left talking about how this is really the quote-unquote Christian thing to do, and she was very right in doing what she did. I would fully and firmly disagree with them. They are completely wrong. Now, I'm sorry, but I'm just going to say it. The church that she's involved in, would I consider them to be, you know, straight down the road Christians, Bible-believing, doing what's necessary when it comes to winning souls and so on? No. No. Sorry. They are about as liberal as it gets. It's all feel-good nonsense. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. I'm sorry if you're part of that church. Sorry. Defend yourself. Reality is, it's about as unchristian, unbiblical as it can be. Yeah, thank you, Charlie. The gospel is not preached. In fact, I would go as far as to say I'm not sure they even believe in the gospel. And I don't think I'm too far off in saying that, am I, Charlie? I mean, it is the Episcopal Church. And they have strayed so far away from what their core was back in the day that it's not even funny. And this is who she's a part of. I had said on the National Crawford Roundtable that they should have taken the young black preacher from Detroit that was in the middle of the prayer service. You know, the three people that prayed, he was in the middle. They should have had him here. should have just had him do double duty. They would have been much better off in doing so. But reality is, they didn't. This has become actually a pretty big story. If you haven't seen this, I encourage you just go look it up. It is easy to Google and find. The article I'm reading right now is on the Daily Signal, titled Episcopal Bishop Chides Trump on Politics, and of course he pushes back. And once again, this is a bishop that, in my opinion— I could sit here and interview, and I'm not of the ministry. I don't have a degree in it like Andy has and so on, but I could tear her apart, theologically speaking, all day long. Because her and I believe in totally different things when it comes to what Scripture says. So at any rate, it's a big story. It's worth looking up. She basically, yes, in a lot of ways, preached to, chided Trump during this quote unquote prayer slash sermon, I call it. It wasn't a prayer, it was a sermon. And at the same time, forgetting, which is what the left does, forgetting the reality of what's really going on. It's sort of like our own Mayor Johnston here in Denver. He thinks every one of these quote-unquote refugees that's come to Colorado and Denver is completely innocent of anything. Just ask him. It feels like we need to roll out the whole silver platter and the like, give them the keys to the city when they show up. That's what Mike Johnston believes. By the way, Mike's in for a real rude awakening when they start doing some roundup in Denver, by the way, is on their list when it comes to rounding up some illegals and so on. And there's, by the way, some really great articles. We're going to talk about some of this with Sonny Kutcher and some of the folks they've already rounded up and some of the things that they have done already today. And the criminal gang members that they've already, MS-13 and so on, some of those gang members, they've already rounded up to deport. It's happening literally, folks, as we speak. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. So, again, this particular bishop, completely off base in the things that she was telling Trump, which is not uncommon for a lefty because they're mentally ill. They literally have no idea what reality is. They live in their own reality, is what I should say, having no real idea what's going on in the real world, and that is this particular – I have a hard time even calling her a bishop because she's an activist. She's a political activist. She is not a bishop. So that's what I'm going to call her. She is not an Episcopal bishop, in my opinion. She is a political activist that used her position to do just that in this inaugural follow-up prayer service that they held, and was very wrong, in my opinion, for what she did. All right, let's do this. 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All right, we're back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sonny Kutcher joining us now. Young Americans Against Socialism. It's been a great week so far, Sonny.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's been a great week for freedom. Very excited to discuss it. And we can already see some of the changes taking place post-inauguration day.
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And some of those actually late inauguration day, which hardly ever happens. Give him credit where credit's due. Donald Trump did some things on opening day, I guess you could say, unlike other presidents in the past.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. And America deserves a truthful and honest president. We deserve a president who is going to take our country back to its roots and the values that created the framework of this country, like limited government, individual liberties, power to the people, real power to the people, meaning our voice is heard and that our public servants are being held accountable to our needs and the things that people need in each individual state. I think President Trump has shown that he listens to the people and that he has advisors on his team who are willing to, as you saw with the election, you know, go out there and talk to people, podcasts, young people, all kinds of people to really hear what, you know, what will help them make this country better.
SPEAKER 11 :
One of the first times – and this is a little bit off topic, but I wanted to get your opinion on this because watching everything that happened up to the election and then even after the election and really watching the inauguration and looking at not only Donald Trump's son but – his granddaughters and so on, and realizing that while he might be 78 years old, he is surrounding himself with a lot of other young and vibrant individuals that I believe are really pouring into him some of the things that are happening in their own world. And as you being a young person as well, I think it's, in my opinion, the first time I've seen any president really look to the younger generation the way Trump is. Am I wrong in my thoughts?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think you're absolutely right. Spot on. You know, I think Trump understands that we need leadership in this country. That is what makes the wheels of freedom turn. Be someone who understands business, that overregulation leads to disaster, that allowing people to have the resources they need in order to prosper, but also the freedom to do so as well. And I think President Trump really understands that the young people that he has on his team that are advising him really well can see what the young people in this country need in order to become better leaders.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it was interesting. One of the stories that he told was his son, Barron, who, by the way, is turning out to be just a really awesome young man and was highlighted a lot in the inauguration itself. He was one of those that came to Trump and said, hey, we're missing this whole segment of the population. And, you know, they play games and they do this and they do that. And Trump was kind of looking at him like, huh? And yet had enough intelligence to say, OK, show me. which, you know, Barron did, and Trump was able to capture a lot of those young men especially, but I think it was young ladies as well, and just did a fabulous job, and by the way, is now delivering to those people the very same things he told them he would do on the front side.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely, and I think it's because young people are understanding the problems that we've been plagued with, especially the last four years, but for a long time now, right? that these issues really affect young people the most because we are inheriting this country. And in order for freedom to prosper for generations to come, young people need to get involved. And for, you know, President Trump and, you know, I think any candidate should be taking advantage of these opportunities, podcasts and whatnot, because, again, that is how you reach the people. And we are seeing now that the mainstream media is just absolutely dead. Nobody believes them. They're the enemy of the people. It is really bought and paid for by communists. That is actually the story of service buying hundreds of radio stations. They want to control the wavelength. They want to control the information. And if you want to circumvent that, you go straight to the sources. You go straight to the people who are going to release long form content showing the people. for in President Trump's case, what he had planned for this country. And I think those issues like immigration, like bringing jobs back to this country, limited government, taking restrictions off of, you know, the over-regulations that have been put in place, those are all very socialist tactics and very socialist policies. You know, I think young people are starting to make those connections because they're hearing the truth. And now they're able to cross-reference and see the difference between what we've had and the lies that these communists have been telling us. that socialism is the answer or, you know, disguising it under other names. But we know that it's socialism. And they're seeing that entrepreneurship and limited government and economic independence is the way to go for America because it's what served us. And it's what has catapulted this nation to, you know, the prosperous nation that it is.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. The other thing we're seeing right out of the gate, you sent me an article talking about how they are already out right now. ICE is rounding up. They were in Boston today. They're rounding up, you know, any of these egregious criminal aliens in this particular case, this particular case. A person reporting witnessed eight arrests, including multiple MS-13, Interpol red notices, murder and rape suspects, a violent Haitian gang member with 18 convictions. In other words, these are not nice people, which, by the way, the last administration allowed to come in and probably handed them some freebies along the way. This administration, though, Donald Trump is saying, yeah, no more. We're going to deal with this, and you're not doing this any longer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, there's been a line drawn in the sand because we can't have people walking, millions of people walking into our country. That in itself is a crime. If you want to get down to brass tacks, sorry, it doesn't mean that all these people are bad people. It has absolutely nothing to do with that. We are a country of laws. We have the law of rule and order.
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border.
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And in order to maintain security for the people who pay taxes, who live in this country, who have a stake investment in this country, get families in this country, they want to have the process be exactly what it is, the process by which it happens legally. And unfortunately, if you are in this country illegally, then that's not going to work out for for them because we've had an issue and now we have to crack down. I mean, I think that's truly what's happened. And we've been lied to by the left. for so many years that this wasn't a problem, that it's a great thing to have people just walking across the border who knows what they are. You know, we had COVID mandates and restrictions, but then you had illegals crossing over the border and just we don't even know where they're going or who they are or anything about them, let alone if they're vaccinated with the COVID vaccine, you know, or any other vaccine for that matter. It's just it's absolutely outrageous. And I think people are just seeing straight through the lies. and the deception. President Trump understands that securing the border has absolutely nothing to do with immigrants being bad. It's exactly what they tried to do. Orange man bad. So I think we have to really just take these issues for what it is. He also sent another 1,500 troops to the southern border as well, just announced recently. That's fantastic. We have the closures of federal DEI offices and affirmative action. Yep, absolutely. Awesome. Affirmative action. Yep. And another one that's really a big one for us is that right before President Biden left office, he signed an order that revoked or I guess downgraded Cuba's status as a state sponsor of terrorism. And so President Trump put that back into law.
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And then adding on to that, a lot of the people that they're rounding up right now, including, you know, cartel members and so on, you know, Donald Trump is basically saying, you guys are terrorists. We're going to label you as such. We're going to round you up and take care of you. Now, with all that being said, really quick, somebody asked me, will Crawford Broadcasting ever sell to somebody like a George Soros? Well, number one, we're not for sale. Number two, there's already a secession plan in place when it comes to what will happen if Don Crawford Sr. decides to not be at the helm any longer. And I will assure you. This one I know for a fact. Yeah, that ain't happening. We are not selling that. No way we're ever going to do anything along those lines. We will continue to do exactly what we're doing right now. Literally, you know, indefinitely is what I should say, Sonny. So the reality for somebody asking that is, yeah, no, we're not going anywhere. We're going to keep doing what we're doing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'm glad to hear it. And we'll be here talking about the issues as long as that's possible.
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Absolutely. Talk to us, because this came up, and it continues to come up. We saw the wildfires in California where you're at, and heart goes out to all those people and so on. But on the same token, we saw Joe Biden walk right in and say, we're going to help you rebuild 100%. Yet we've got folks in North Carolina that are struggling. Yet today it looks like breaking news. They are now seeing some relief that, by the way, is long overdue, months overdue. And finally, we're seeing this administration treat them the same way Joe Biden treated Californians.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the same way that everybody should be treated in this country when there is such a disaster like we've seen across the country in Hawaii. I mean, those people only got $750. They're probably thinking to themselves, okay, North Carolina and California, what about us too?
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Right, right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good point. But we did see that residents in Western North Carolina specifically. You know, they've been sitting in these hotels. Some have been literally on intense, in freezing cold weather. It is absolutely heartbreaking. This should never happen in our country. Our people should be the first ones that we help in disaster, in times of crisis. And now, finally, you know, we're seeing videos of people being moved into long-term furnished apartments. And just watching the video of some of these people reacting to, you know, being... Yeah, they're in tears.
SPEAKER 11 :
They're literally... And by the way, for everybody listening, and I think most people know this, Sunny, but again, not trying to diminish anything in California, although some of what happened in California was the result of improper leadership, not taking care of things, and so on. The folks in North Carolina... it was simply a natural disaster. There was nothing those folks could have done on the front side to prevent anything that happened. And so, not that my heart doesn't go out to folks in California that lost everything, but Sonny, I'll just say it straight up. What happened in North Carolina, in my opinion, is, and granted, it's been devastating in California, but those folks in North Carolina, that was not of any of their own doing.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, and I just think I think the recovery has just been abysmal. You know, the leadership needs to take a real hard look in the mirror. That's right. And I think, you know, once the disaster happens, like you said, it's like, what can you do? Even in California or Hawaii, for that matter, of course, there are ways that we could have minimized the damage or the destruction. But at the end of the day, it's really, okay, the road to rebuild and recover is maybe even more challenging than just accepting the disaster for what it is. you know, we have a long way to go in terms of that across our country. And this is another, you know, just another notch kind of in the belt in the sense of why is America, you know, this prosperous nation, this nation that prides itself on economic independence, and we've been so successful, but our, you know, airports are falling apart, our infrastructure is falling apart, our people are being forgotten and neglected and almost to a criminal, willful negligence standpoint. It's just absolutely absurd. We've been, you know, prioritizing illegal immigrants, you know, as we just discussed and the DEI and just doing everything backwards. We're finally going back to the framework, which is everything is based on merit. based on your content of your character. And we need to have leaders in place who are going to prepare their people and their infrastructure, the state, the local government, and protect our people from further disaster when emergencies happen.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and on top of that, and this is, you know, I'll say this openly, we have spent billions of dollars in other areas, Ukraine being one of them, the last administration did. All the while, to your point, Sunny, the amount of money that we spent sending, you know, not only money, but arms and other things over there, the reality is we could have rebuilt both California and North Carolina and Hawaii with the money we've spent there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. Billions to Ukraine. It's quite remarkable. I think people, the news cycle is so short, we just tend to forget, truly, like the crazy things that have taken place, the ways in which this country has been almost poisoned by its leaders. I'm getting a motorcycle driving by very loud here.
SPEAKER 11 :
And really quick, just so everybody knows, because this number doesn't get publicized much by mass media or the non-mass media, which I think you're correct on saying as well, Sunny. But as of September 30th, the U.S.-Ukraine response funding is $183 billion. Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Staggering.
SPEAKER 11 :
$183 billion. That's a ton.
SPEAKER 09 :
Really unbelievable. And that is why this administration will prioritize eliminating U.S. foreign aid for 90 days. We put a pause on that, which is really important.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
We don't want to be in any foreign wars. We're not giving handouts anymore. America first. We want America first in all of our agreements. And, you know, If other countries aren't going to be happy about that, then they're going to have to take that up with President Donald Trump because he is serious about, again, bringing this country back to its values, the economic independence values, such as taking off those regulations on home appliances, like light bulbs being banned and things having crazy taxes that just make absolutely no sense. This is the way of the future in order to save our freedom, truly. And once our freedom was taken away, it's very difficult to get it back. And so all those regulations need to be removed. And I think that is why people have really put their trust in this administration. And, you know, time will tell. I think things are looking really good. We're restoring. freedom of speech. We're ending censorship. We're not prioritizing climate change anymore. We're not prioritizing COVID anymore. We finally put into law that there are only two sexes, which is so important. I mean, just wins across the board, culturally, ideologically, for American values, for our people, for the economy of this country. We got the Department of Government Efficiency is going to be just flashing numbers here and there. So It feels like a weight has been lifted, truly, and I'm really excited to see what happens. We have a long way to go, and we need to continue putting in the work, which is obviously what makes the work that we do so important, because we want people to learn the truth so that they can really embrace it and speak up now at the time.
SPEAKER 11 :
Young Americans Against Socialism, how do folks find you, Sunny?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, YoungAmericansAgainstSocialism, YAS.org, Y-A-S.org. On Instagram, we're YAS underscore America. I go live on this show every day. I'm live right now on Instagram. So next time you can watch the segment live if you're into that. And we're just really excited, you know, and happy that we have the support from your team, from our audience. We did release our Inauguration Day Guide last week. So you can learn all about the inaugural ceremony and the constitutional process and why the founders came. made it so important to teach that and the value of it. So please check out our resources, and if you're inclined to support and partner with us, we'd be really grateful. Thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Sunny, again, thank you so much. We'll talk next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you. You bet.
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All right, don't have enough time for a full segment, but somebody asked, and I'm going to dovetail into that question because another person actually asked something similar when it comes to Crawford Broadcasting and a lot of what's happening in regards to the whole broadcasting end of things, all of the consolidations and so on, and somebody asked, you know, would we ever be sold to, you know, Mr. Crawford Sr. ever entertain an offer from a large corporation like, you know, Soros or Cirrus or, you know, And we get them. Yeah, I mean, every large company gets offers. And I can assure you that, yes, those offers come in. Yeah, this particular station, especially if it's three letters, K-L-Z, we are the oldest station in Colorado. We are. 102 years old. So, yes, offers come in. On the same token, as I said earlier, I know full well that there are no plans at all. Trust me, I would be privy to those if there were. There is no talks, no rumors, no nothing about us doing anything other than what we do. We're going to continue to move forward just like we always have. Yes, Mr. Crawford Sr. is not a young man. But there is already a plan in place as to what's going to happen if something ever does happen to him or if he decides to even, you know, let go of the reins and his son would then take over and off we go. So the reality is, no, we are not going anywhere. We are also this is something else I think is really key. We are not beholden to anybody. We don't owe anybody anything. We are debt free. We don't have any outside investors. We are not owned by anyone else. No board, no church, no nothing. Nobody out there owns us. Reality is, it is Crawford Broadcasting only. We are debt-free, and it will stay that way. And I will also say on top of that, which we hear this from different individuals, and you would think that... You know, not having all of that, you know, corporate interjection of cash and this, that or the other that, you know, we would not have the equipment and the tooling that other stations and other networks out there have. I will tell you, it's quite the opposite. We actually have some of the leading technology out there, and we'll get people that come from other companies that come to work for us that will say, wow, you guys have things that I didn't even have at that quote-unquote big place I just came from. And I am not exaggerating in the least in what I'm saying. We have the top of the line across the board. equipment out there. So the reality is, no, we are not going anywhere. We are going to continue to do the same things that we're doing here on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. And there is no plan, any way, shape or form to change that. You hear the Crawford stand on a daily basis. You know exactly where Mr. Crawford's heart is. And I will tell you that his son feels exactly the same way. So, yeah, no, we are not going anywhere and we are not going to change a thing. So rest assured, we're going to keep doing just exactly what we're doing so by the way thank you though for those questions i do appreciate that and i hope that clears a few things up for some of you that are out there listening all right another full hour coming your way don't go anywhere we got a lot to still cover today tyler o'neill from daily signal is going to join us in a moment so don't go away this is rush to reason denver's afternoon rush klz 560.
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All right, hour three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Tyler O'Neill joining us. Welcome back, Tyler. How are you?
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, doing well. Thanks for having me.
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Daily Signal and author of The Woktopus, The Dark Money Cabal Manipulating the Federal Government. So the question I have for you, has a couple of the tentacles been chopped off in the last couple of days?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes. Well, so it's interesting. The actual Woktopus is pulling a lot of the tentacles back, and some of the tentacles are being sunk in underneath the ground, for them to be put up later. But yes, I mean, President Trump has come in with a lot of really strong executive orders. He's been chopping away left and right. The problem is there are so many tentacles that it's hard to get all of them. And so what I'm warning is The deep state is still going to oppose Trump from within. He's doing what he needs to mostly, but Congress really needs to step up and help him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you. You took the words out of my mouth. What I was going to say next is to really make these things lasting. Now, granted, they can be changed again even through, you know, congressional changes. bills and so on, but you know that's always a lot harder than executive order. So the reality is if you want these things to stick even longer, you'll be longer lasting, you've got to get them through Congress and approved by Senate and then signed out by the president.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly. And there are some key legislative reforms that need to undermine the deep state. One of them, I think, is making it so that you can't have public sector unions representing government employees.
SPEAKER 07 :
Amen.
SPEAKER 17 :
That was an idea.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've said that for years, by the way. Amen on that one. Absolutely. You know, as taxpayers, this is where I draw the line, Tyler, really quick, just to give you my explanation. We as taxpayers, when I'm paying the bill, they should not have the ability to, you know, have a union if you would represent them against me. That's how I view that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly. Yeah, they'd be going on strike against the American people. Correct. one of the things that turns public servants into public serpents.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct. Correct. So, yeah, that one to me is one that ought to happen right out of the gate. And I think when it comes to, you know... hear me out here when it comes to some of the wokeness. So the DEI thing that Trump, through executive order, has ended. A lot of those people, as of 5 o'clock Eastern time tonight, so they're already two hours past that, are essentially laid off with pay, but yet there's directives from their higher-ups to fire them, figure out a way to eliminate them altogether. And my point on that is, and I don't know that this has been done yet, but the, you know, the... whatever you call it, the – I can't think of it right now – the Government Accounting Office, GAO, they need to figure out exactly what does DEI cost the American taxpayer across all federal agencies, and then that needs to go to Congress and say, okay, time out. We've got to cut spending any way we can. This is a great way to do so. And to me, that would be the way you run that bill through is not necessarily we're going to kill – you know, DEI because it's woke, but we're going to kill it because it's costing us too much.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Yeah, well, it's costing us too much, and it's pitting people against each other. So it's putting good money after bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
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In a really clear way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in my opinion, it lowers the overall quality of goods, whether it's something that's produced by government or something that's produced by the private sector. At the end of the day, it literally is lowering the overall quality.
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Yeah. Yeah, lowering it quite a bit. I think the other aspect, though, is that this is a personnel issue, too. You have to get rid of the DEI superstructure in the government, which is key and he can easily do. But you also have to watch, and this is where my book comes in. I talk about all of the woke interest groups that are feeding staff into the administration that fed them into the Biden administration. A lot of these people are hankering down. They're hunkering down. They're changing their titles so they no longer are part of DEI this or DEI that, and then they're trying to stay. And there was a shocking poll that found 64% of D.C.-based federal bureaucrats who voted for Kamala Harris say they would not implement a Trump lawful order if they thought it was bad policy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they need to go. I mean, my feeling is they just need to go. This goes back, though, to conversations we've even had in the past when it comes to just trimming government in general. It's bloated. And by the way, Tyler, I could say government is bloated on any level. I could go to almost any state, county, city level, all the way up to the feds. Reality is government bloats. It's what they do naturally. Oh, yeah. It's one of the reasons why I believe Donald Trump said no more hiring. We're done with that for right now. You know, we are not going to send even four and eight out right now. We have got to get our ducks in a row. I'm paraphrasing, but we got to get our ducks in a row before we do anything else. And the reality is, Tyler, that needs to happen across the board.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, no, it really does. And one of the aspects of it that I cover in the book is the immigration industrial complex, all these NGOs that are receiving federal funding from to move illegal aliens throughout the country. And that makes, you know, the border crisis, you know, every state becomes a border state, and the border crisis comes to everywhere. We've been seeing it these past four years. I mean, I still was shocked to see a Venezuelan gang going door to door in Aurora.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. In our backyard.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Like, I grew up there in Colorado, in Golden. But to see that, I'm like, is this my country anymore?
SPEAKER 07 :
In some cases, it doesn't look like it anyways. And to your point, what's happened even here locally, yeah. I mean, and by the way, every single liberal in Colorado downplayed all of that up until the point of that particular event happening, and then they had no choice but to recognize what was going on. That includes even some of our liberal newscasters and so on. So, yeah, when those things actually get to that point, people have to pay attention. Unfortunately, it took that to happen.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, not, and I feel that way about the Trump administration, you know, the second administration of Trump in general, it's like in order for this administration to happen, we had to hit real rock bottom under Biden. Everything had to go wrong. And now Americans are, you know, I was surprised to see a lot of elites, you know, those tech CEOs standing with Trump yesterday, And this poll that showed that a lot of members of the federal government are gearing up to oppose Trump, it also found that more of the elites than not are actually supporting the administration and hopeful about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and hear me out on this one. I feel, this is me, these guys know where their bread is buttered. They're not dumb. And I feel like, number one, if they felt like they would have a continuation of Joe Biden even in 2028. They wouldn't be so apt to do what they're doing now. To me, this is an indicator that they firmly believe that this particular party is going to be in charge well beyond the four-year mark. So I think what they're looking at is playing the long game.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it could be. I mean, yeah, I hope that is their calculus. I tend to be a little bit cynical and think in shorter-term cycles. and think that they're just trying to get in with the administration.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, no doubt. By the way, I'm not going to argue with you on that, although think of some things that have changed recently that are probably making these folks pay a little bit more attention than they would have. X has become a huge competitor. X is Musk. Musk is definitely not on the left. He's definitely for sure on the right with Donald Trump. He's become a big player in that world. These other folks, you know, Bezos and Zuckerberg and so on, they have to be looking at that saying, wait a minute. this guy's wealth has increased almost double since he went down this path. Ours, by the way, isn't. Maybe we're on the wrong bandwagon.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. No, it is hard to overstate the impact of Elon Musk buying Twitter and freeing it up when it comes to speech. It changed the media ecosystem, and it made the sort of suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story impossible and that i mean that story may have swung the 2020 election there are a lot of i mean i think it did i think it did yeah yeah but i think you know there's really good polling from the media research center showing that if enough biden voters knew in 2020 about Hunter Biden, they would not have voted for him.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. We'd have a different outcome. Yep, absolutely. Well, really quick, too, I want to say this, Tyler. I do also think that, number one, the left is losing, A, the mainstream media. In fact, it's not even going to be that any longer. This last election, I think, proved that. They do not have ABC, NBC, CBS. They do not have the power they once did. The other tech companies, quote-unquote, TikTok, for example, which, by the way, they wanted to kill off. That's a whole other story we could get to maybe on a different day. But TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, X, I mean, you go down the list. They are becoming what mainstream media used to be.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Well, and the funny thing is conservative media is competing. And at The Daily Signal, we are growing.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
by leaps and bounds. So I think, yes, to a large extent, the way that news is mediated is through platforms more than it is through specific companies these days. So people will go to YouTube, and the algorithm will serve them the news they're interested in. And people will go to X, and people will go to other places. And so that frees up things. I mean, luckily, I feel like they've tried to crack down on this explosion of content with the Internet time after time. You know, we had all these all these moments, especially since 2016, where they say, oh, conservative media is misinformation. We have to stomp it down. Right. And so Facebook stops promoting allowing political content. And, you know, one thing falls after another. But the Internet is keeps pushing forward, and thanks to people like Elon Musk, that trend seems to be accelerating now.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 17 :
To see Mark Zuckerberg come out and say that Facebook is going to finally allow political content again, that it's not going to censor speech, that it's going to have a system like community notes on X, I mean, all of this is very exciting, and I don't know how much I trust Facebook to apply it evenly, but I'm really glad it's happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. Time will tell. Again, Tyler O'Neill, thank you so much. Daily Signal. Guys, go check that out as well. And Tyler, as always, I appreciate you joining us.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're very welcome. Have a great night. And it's a great website, by the way. If you guys don't go to that on a regular basis, I would highly recommend that you do. They have a lot of great stories on a daily basis. They're doing a fabulous job, and we'll keep having them on as guests. Flesh Law is up next. Civil, criminal, you name it, Kevin is there to represent you. 303-806-8886.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, before we talk to Scott Garlis here at 530, this came out in the Wall Street Journal today. Trump is now threatening sanctions, more so, and tariffs on Russia if Putin doesn't end the war in Ukraine. Now, will that have a huge effect or is that a lot of lip service? And I love Donald Trump. And behind, you know, his processes, because he usually thinks long term and has a way of getting to where he needs to go. Unfortunately, when it comes to Russia, they don't buy a lot already. Now, if Trump can somehow put sanctions on and tariffs on that affect other countries, countries besides us, and he can get them on board to agreeing to do that, well, then that would have a much larger effect, because the reality is Russia doesn't really export a lot of goods to us. In 2024, it was about $2.9 billion is all, and I know that sounds like a big number, but in regards to goods that are traded back and forth and so on, not a huge number. Number by any means. So that'll be interesting to see. I do predict that Trump will come up with ways to even strong arm Putin into doing more things. Now, I also will tell you this. I think Ukraine's going to have to have a really hard look at what they're doing as well, because I can guarantee you Trump's going to come along and already has foreign aid right now is done. We are not giving out anything for the next 90 days. So Ukraine is not going to get a nickel in the next 90 days. Now, I understand before Biden left, he gave him a nice lump sum and helped him out quite substantially. But that's ending. And that's going to hurt. And they're going to also have to be more willing to come to the table and negotiate and figure out a way to end this thing. But my prediction, I really thought by now this would be over. Although when you're not president, you don't quite have all of the purse strings and the ability to control everything. It's a little harder to negotiate now that he is. Trust me, this will get negotiated, and I believe it'll be negotiated fairly quickly. Will we be dealing with a Russia-Ukraine war this summer? I highly doubt it. I highly doubt it. Will it end in the next 90 days? Don't be surprised if it does. That would be more my prediction. I think it's going to be right. Well, not going to be. I think it's on Trump's agenda. top agenda already. He does not like us being involved in any of these wars. He doesn't like them going on, period. He has said that publicly many times. Even though the left accuses him of being a warmonger, he is the farthest thing from it. He is far less of a warmonger than anybody on the left. So I believe wholeheartedly that he will do everything he possibly can to crush them. Now, the other thing, by the way, that will hurt Russia is us upping our oil exports, our capacity here in the U.S., Our LNG exports, which, by the way, Biden, who claims, and he told Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, that he didn't know what he was signing. Yes, that's a true statement in what I'm just saying there. Joe claims he didn't sign anything limiting exports of LNG. In fact, he did. And that's where Mike comes back and says, who's been actually running the country? Because Joe's just signing anything that's put in front of him. So you get some of that back on track, which, by the way, is a competition to Russia now. You do enough of those things that that will put some pressure on Russia when it comes to their financial end of things. By the way, just producing more oil and dropping the price will put pressure on Russia. So there are lots of things. There's lots of tools in the tool bag, if you would, that Donald Trump can use in a way to strong arm Russia into coming up with a deal with Ukraine. And by the way, doing the same thing with Ukraine along those same lines. And I'll be the first to say it. Neither one are innocent. And I know there's people out there that would disagree, that love Ukraine and think they're innocent. No, they're not. No, they're not. They have their own corruption and things going on that they need to deal with as well. And one of the fears that I have, and I don't think I'm wrong in this, is how much money that we as taxpayers have borrowed and sent there ends up not even going to the battlefield but in some of those higher-ups' pockets. And I'm guessing far more than we want to see. I don't want to see any, but I'm guessing far more than what anybody could imagine. Again, they have their corruption issues, too. They're not perfect. They're not angels. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And Charlie's getting Scott rounded up. We're going to talk about some of the things that we've been talking about now. Last few weeks, now that Trump is actually in office, what are the tariffs looking like? What's that doing when it comes to Wall Street itself? What's Wall Street thinking? You've seen the actual Dow go up. most every day this week in fact it broke a record i believe uh yesterday don't quote me on that but i think that's what andy was telling me as he arrived yesterday i did not check that myself but you know bottom line uh it'll be interesting to listen to scott and see what he has to say in regards to what wall street thinks and so on but there's scott right now scott welcome how are you sir are you there oh scott Maybe. Hey, Scott, are you there? I will. Oh, there you are. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm well. How are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm good. I'm good. Things are probably switching over in the car. Not a problem. All right. It's been a interesting week. Donald Trump is now president. I've seen the markets respond positively. Am I correct in that? Is that the sentiment around Wall Street that things are going to go much better than they originally thought? Or where are we?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, no, that's it. So, you know, leading into the event, one of the things we had talked about was there was lots of speculation about, man, everything's going to be terrible, all these bad things are going to happen, inflation's going to be a runaway freight train. And so there's this old saying on Wall Street, this thing that traders kind of do where they sort of, it's called buy the rumor, sell the news. And in this case, it's the opposite. It was sort of sell the rumor and buy the news. So when you're uncertain, fund managers tend to sell first and ask questions later, so they raise cash just in case something bad happens. That way they have money to invest when they figure things out. So as we started to get some details, one of the things we were really worried about was Trump was going to slap China with 60% tariffs on the first day he got into office, and that didn't happen.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
That makes them less nervous about inflation because one of the big sticking points about inflation is going to take off is Trump was going to jam people with all these big tariffs from the get-go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in fact, yeah, some of the things that he did, Scott, were kind of opposite of that. In other words, he cut all of the DEI programs. A lot of those people, by the way, as of tonight are still on payroll, but there's mandates from their higher-ups to actually let those individuals go. He put a hiring freeze in, meaning no new employees in the federal government. He told every office and corporation to boot. figure out a way to lower what you're doing, lower your overall costs, and let's pass those things on to the general population. Let's cut back on some of these stupid mandates that make washing machines more expensive and so on. So the reality, Scott, is literally from day one, he came in and did things that, frankly, should actually boost the economy and save the American worker money.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Exactly. That was one of the other big things, too, that he was telling all these government agencies to start looking for ways to save people money. And that's correct. He knows how painful inflation has been for Americans, and he knows that that's one of the big things that got him elected. So Wall Street sees and hears that from the get-go, and they like that because they want to see inflation come down because the Fed, what is it, about a month ago, said, hey, We might not cut interest rates this year like we previously got it for because we're worried about inflation. And when they see this guy's doing everything he can to help ease inflation, they look at that and they think, okay, wait a second. Well, maybe the Fed can build those rate cuts back in and maybe expectations are super low. And there's nothing but upside right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Interesting. And I think also, too, the other thing that Trump did is, you know, on top of not only implementing those tariffs that he was pretty gung-ho on doing and I think was really a large saber-rattling when it came to some of the foreign entities, China, especially, he basically said, yeah, you know, let's do this. Let's put a committee together. Let's figure out exactly what we should and shouldn't do. I want to go to China, have a meeting as well. So you know what? Let's make sure that we got our ducks in a row first before we do anything.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, the China meeting to me was super interesting. The fact that he said he wants to go over there as soon as possible and sit down with Xi. That is completely the opposite of what anybody expected. Everybody on Wall Street, all the fund managers and hedge fund buddies I talked to, they were like, man, China tensions are going to ratchet up big time. And that threw a lot of people for a loop. If you go back to 2018, the economy was falling apart because the Fed was in this, we're hiking rates no matter what, and Trump was like, hey, we might be going into a trade war. Well, You know, when he did that and then he sat down with Xi, I want to say it was maybe in Chile, I think, where there was a G7 meeting at the time, and he sat down with Xi and they figured things out. And they said, okay, we're going to work on all this stuff, that we're going to try to work on reducing the trade deficit with you guys. And that turned the corner, and I feel like people saw and heard this commentary, and they're like, investment managers are thinking to themselves, okay, wait a second, that puts credibility to the fact that he didn't implement tariffs from day one, and he wants to figure out a way to move forward on this, not move backward.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, and on the same token, he's simultaneously telling Canada and Mexico that, hey, we've got this immigration problem, we want to get this thing fixed, and the reality is if you don't help us fix it, we are going to slap tariffs on you. I think he really means what he's saying there. On the same token, you're seeing Canada and Mexico literally, as we speak, getting on the bandwagon saying, okay, what can we do to help fix this?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and I know the president of Mexico, she recently said, look, I think cooler heads will prevail in this situation. I don't want to get in a fight over this. Let's figure this out. You're right. You know, another interesting thing about this was, you know, the Canadian oil firms, they've been worried about this and they're trying to get oil and energy products into the U.S. as fast as possible. One of the pipeline companies, Enbridge, has had to slow them down. They're trying to transport so much oil. And what What people don't think about, that the average Joe doesn't think about with this, and Wall Street is, is all of a sudden you can see the Midwest storage facilities. have too much oil.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, at capacity. Too much gas. Yeah, right. Well, and really quick for everybody listening, and most people don't know this, Scott, the reason why Canada, A, has the prices that they have on oil, and the reason why, by and large, that oil all comes down into our ports is because the reality is they have no other way of exporting that oil to other countries. So we're their biggest customer, and we have to be because even once we get it and then export it or basically become the broker for them... there's no other option for them.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, I mean, and another one that I was reading about today, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, I believe Narendra is his first name, his cabinet is now looking into ways preemptively to lower the trade deficit they have with the U.S. right now because they don't want to get into a tariff conversation. And apparently some of the plans are, they're talking about importing more You know, goods like whiskey, they like U.S. whiskey. They're talking about importing more steel. And they're talking about getting rid of tariffs they have on the export of U.S. goods to India.
SPEAKER 07 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 18 :
So that they can increase trade, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Those are all things, by the way, as you know, Scott, I mean, big picture, those are things that will help the U.S. economy grow, correct?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes. That is exactly right. That will help the U.S. economy grow.
SPEAKER 07 :
One of the things that, you know, aren't in my notes, but I want to ask you anyways, is I also know Donald Trump is a smart guy. He understands the market, the economy, the real estate end of things especially. I mean, he has to see that we're in a real estate slump right now. You know, Housing prices haven't done much in the way of going down. Interest rates are up. A lot of people can't afford to get into a home. He knows all of that. And the best way to get that moving forward is rates have to come down. Now, I know everybody will say the Fed is independent. They're not going to do whatever Donald Trump says, although you and I both know that there are some talks that can go on and some leverage that Donald Trump can use. My question is, How long do you think it's going to take Donald Trump to get those rates down to a point to where housing goes back up again?
SPEAKER 18 :
I bet by the end of the year, rates are going to be significantly lower. I bet your percentage point from where they are now. I could be putting my foot in my mouth, but that's how I honestly feel.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I mean, by the way, if the builders even feel like you, they will not wait and start builds at the end of the year. If they feel like rates will even be down by then, they'll start building in the summer because they know how long it takes to complete things.
SPEAKER 18 :
Completely. And then supply will go up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 18 :
And people will find availability. I mean, let's think about it this way, too. I mean, Think about some of the balance sheets that some of these big banks have. You know, they have treasuries they've been sitting on for years because rates took off and they can't sell them right now because they would have to take big markdowns and losses. So these are all balance sheet issues. You know, getting interest rates down, that'll help the value of those treasury bonds they have. Not to mention, if you can get rates down, borrowing costs for the U.S. should drop.
SPEAKER 09 :
Huge.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, and there's potential that If you can get that to happen, the U.S. could go out and refinance some recent debt it's issued with cheaper debt.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct, correct. Yeah, well, and then on top of that, Scott, as you know, the average, you know, even small to medium-sized business where they're relying on, you know, different loans, lines of credit, people have credit card debt, of course, they buy cars and so on. I mean, the reality is, and this is something where I just think the Fed are a bunch of knuckleheads, but anyways, we've talked about that plenty in the past. The reality is to really get the economy spurred along, And I'm sorry, this is where the Fed and I probably are going to disagree. You have to lower rates. You're not going to get it done any other way.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's correct. I mean, what we're seeing in Europe right now is, you know, there are a couple of guys. Philip Lane is the chief economist of the European Central Bank. Big Hawk. There's another guy, Ali Ren. I want to say Ali Ren is from like Denmark or Norway. He's a huge hawk. And these two have recently come out and said higher rates and sort of basically higher rates for longer are destroying the European economy. They have to get rates down fast. And it's a matter of time.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I feel, Scott, and again, I didn't go to college. I don't have an economic degree or anything along those lines. But common sense would tell me that, number one, gone are the days where you're going to have double-digit-type rates coming out of the Fed. No matter what anybody says, that's just not going to happen because it's so destructive. And the reason why... It's so much more destructive now than it was even back in the 70s is because of what you said a moment ago. The large national debt that we as a country are carrying right now, the reality is we can't go back to that because it would crush us if we did. Am I correct or not?
SPEAKER 18 :
It would completely destroy us, the interest payments. I mean, we're experiencing that problem now. Interest payments have ballooned because of what the Fed has had to do to fight inflation. And so the Fed cutting rates, would actually help to get interest payments down.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and then the question I've got for you, and again, this is a larger question. The Fed will look at it, of course. Wall Street's going to look at it and so on. But a lot of the things that Donald Trump is doing in week one, really in the last couple of days, in regards to cutting the federal budget by some of the things that he's executive ordered done, the DEI, end of things, the freeze on workers, the freeze on foreign aid, by the way, for the next 90 days. I mean, he's already done several severe things that literally trim the cash outflow of the U.S.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah, and, you know, they're actually talking about there are a number of office buildings that they own in D.C. that simply aren't used. They're talking about offloading all those. I mean, those are expenses, maintenance costs, everything off the books.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 18 :
And it's interesting with the back to work stuff, too, because to your point on real estate, having all the federal workers come back to work, that's going to help commerce. That's going to help real estate.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. No, I agree. And I do think these are things that Donald Trump and his team are going to look at. I think some of these things, Scott, frankly, are going to happen sooner versus later. I think the other thing you're going to see, and I talked about this before you came on, you're going to see the Ukraine recession. Russia war end fairly quickly because, by the way, Trump will do some things to make that painful for both countries. And the reality is they're both going to have to come to the table and figure out how to stop that. Again, that is less cash outflow for us as a country, meaning more of that stays home and helps our economy.
SPEAKER 1 :
That's correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. We'll keep watching it. I appreciate you, Scott. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, sure. See Scott Garlis on LinkedIn or Twitter.
SPEAKER 07 :
Awesome. Scott, I always appreciate you, man. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thanks so much for your time, Scott.
SPEAKER 07 :
You bet. Have a great night. And, again, Scott's a great guy. I appreciate him. He has been with us, by the way, coming into the evening hour now, all the way back before COVID, during COVID, and all of that. So I enjoy Scott. I believe Scott's one of those very common sense guys that thinks much differently than probably a lot of other folks in his field does, and I appreciate that. Affordable interest mortgage, Kurt Rogers speaking of rates and where are mortgage rates going to go, what are they going to do, and so on. Kurt has a pretty good feel on this as well. Give him a call today, 720-895-0500.
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All right, a few minutes left here of today's program. Thank you all for listening. Text messages coming in and so on. I appreciate it. Now, here's another story that a lot of you probably already heard, and that is the quote-unquote, it's funny, all the news agencies call them migrants, the illegal aliens that are stranded with thousands of appointments... To enter the United States, but they're canceled as soon as Donald Trump took office. And what I mean by that is the CBP one app. There was an app created by the Biden administration that allowed migrants, quote unquote. people seeking asylum, I guess you could say, they could go on the app from anywhere, make an appointment through the app, and that was sort of their quote-unquote fast track to get into the country. I don't agree with that. I've talked about this particular app in the past. It was a way for the Biden administration to literally allow tens of thousands of immigrants to come through illegally. Yes, I know they would say legally because of the app, but let's be honest, illegally. They bypassed a lot of the systems that we would have in place otherwise, and it allowed them into the country. So what Trump did was the minute he took over, done. App got shut down. It no longer existed. If they tried to log in and do anything, they couldn't. There were a few people on Inauguration Day Monday that were able to slip through, and they were able to make their appointments. About 400 of them were admitted, at least in Tijuana, across the San Diego border. But a lot of folks... As soon as that got shut down, realized, oh man, we can't get in. There was one particular example they gave of a particular lady who was crying, which I can imagine, who had an appointment for 1 p.m., which was about four hours too late and not allowed in now. Now, I'll just say it straight up. Is there a lot of sympathy on my part for this? No, I'm sorry, there's not. Now, If there's any sympathy of mine, it's because they were misled by the last administration. That I have sympathy for because they were being lied to and misled literally by the Biden administration. publicizing and allowing them to come in when they shouldn't have in the first place. And so at the end of the day, Trump came in, shut this down. The app is no longer useful. They can't use that any longer. And I look at that and say, yep, OK, this is exactly what he said he was going to do. And those of you that were on your way here thinking you were just going to waltz on in, you should have thought about that prior to Trump. And you should have been reading the tea leaves, if you would, on what Donald Trump was going to do the day he took over because the bottom line is he did exactly what he said he was going to do. So at this point, the doors are closed. You're going to have to figure out a different way to do that. So veteran windows and doors, 35% off windows, 45% off doors, free labor to install. If you've noticed some major leaks and things like that during this cold weather, please give Dave a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right. In closing, by the way, Charlie reminded me that app, by the way, that these folks were using was typically on phones. We, as taxpayers, gave them and are paying the service on to boot. And it'll be interesting to see what happens on that end of it moving forward as well, because we got to stop that nonsense. That is the stuff that just has to stop moving forward. And I believe Donald Trump will do all of that. Guys, have a great night. Be safe. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
In this captivating episode, host John Rush is joined by a panel of speakers to explore the internal workings of the Colorado political scene. Learn about past actions and strategies that have fueled rumors around Dave Williams' potential candidacy for governor. Gain insights into the complexities of political influence, the backlash against current GOP strategies, and the driving forces behind political maneuvers. Discover why the stakes are higher than ever as leaders grapple with maintaining relevance in a rapidly shifting political landscape.
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. OK, before we get back into Trump and what he's gone on the last couple of days, let's talk some local politics here and potentially some rumors that Andy has heard about what may be happening in regards to who's going to run for governor. on our side of the aisle in Colorado. Now, along those lines, Scott Bottoms, who's a pastor here in Colorado, from Colorado Springs, he has all, he's a state representative as well, he's already thrown his hat in the ring. He announced that to his congregation last Sunday. Great. Do you know Scott at all?
SPEAKER 04 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
Me neither. Never met him, so no idea who he is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
I will tell you by the article that I read, nothing against you, Scott, but I can tell by the article that I read in his, and again, this is the left writing about him, so you always have to give somebody the benefit of the doubt and actually have a conversation with them. But if everything in this article is true, he doesn't have a snowball's chance of winning in Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I don't know him, so I have no idea.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just saying.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, in regards to that... Does he have some, like, you know, is he against abortion, even in cases of rape, incest, danger?
SPEAKER 14 :
Hardcore on all those things, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Again, given the climate... Against gay marriage. Yes, given the climate in Colorado, he doesn't stand a chance.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's a blue state. And again, it's unfortunate, but yes, we live in a blue state. He's embraced the election conspiracy. He's opposed efforts to protect and expand the rights of transgender people, which, by the way, I could care less about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Take a step back. You said he embraces the election conspiracy.
SPEAKER 14 :
That alone is enough.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, obviously, I do not agree with their terminology and how they put that. This is a leftist that's writing this. However, anybody who gets into the 2020 steal we have said over and over and over again is going to be a disaster here.
SPEAKER 14 :
Especially in Colorado. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Other states may be divided, but not here. This is why Ron Hanks, when he ran in, what was it, CD3? Yes. Yeah, okay. When Ron Hanks ran in CD3, the Democrat was literally spending money on ads trying to help Ron Hanks in the primary. Right. Okay. Because of that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Absolutely. No. Okay. And again, I don't know all of his stances. This article's calling him one of the more controversial members of the legislature. I don't know some of what he's done in the past and so on. I would have to roll through and look at some of those things. I just know from the... If those two or three things that are in this article are correct about him, and if you want to call in and defend yourself, you're more than welcome to, Scott. But at the end of the day, if those things are true, yeah, not a snowball's chance.
SPEAKER 04 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
Not in Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, and that doesn't mean I wouldn't like him. I'm sure I would. Oh, yeah. Probably a great guy. This is nothing personal.
SPEAKER 14 :
This is just politics. How are you going to get elected in Colorado as governor? That's what this is about.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, John, you know, I've heard only a rumor, just a rumor. There's a worse candidate.
SPEAKER 14 :
There can't be.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, there is.
SPEAKER 14 :
Really?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know, as we were mentioning last week, who is running for state chair now? Darcy Schoening.
SPEAKER 14 :
Darcy, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And what did I say?
SPEAKER 14 :
There's a reason why she is.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's no way Darcy Schoening would run against Dave Williams. She is hopelessly devoted to him, okay, to Dave Williams. So why would she do this except that Dave is not running for state chair again, which I said, you know, maybe he will and she drops out and endorses him and they do some kind of a two-step there. But... It looks like Dave Williams is probably not running for chair. Well, a rumor, just a rumor. We don't know. Facebook rumor.
SPEAKER 14 :
We can't verify this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nope, not verifying. Nope. But you may hear it here first. Yeah. Is that Dave might be running for governor.
SPEAKER 14 :
Lord help us. Lord help us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, come on.
SPEAKER 14 :
When Andy told me that before we started the show, I did say that, okay, if in fact he does, and again, you may be hearing this here first. We will see. So Dave Williams, at this point, rumors are he may be running for governor of Colorado. Now, here's the plus side if he does. Maybe he's floating a trial balloon. Maybe he's throwing it out there. I don't know. But here's the plus side if he does. He won't win the primary. No. Period. And by the way, now here's a question, though, Andy. Yes. If he gets done what he'd like to do, would there be a primary in 26?
SPEAKER 04 :
See, and this is where it goes. Let's say that he gets Darcy Shaning through, because Darcy Shaning is much, and it might be Shoning. It's S-C-H-O-E-N. I've heard Shaning, but it could be Shoning. I'll say Shaning.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just call her Darcy. Whatever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Whatever. If Darcy wins the state chair position, she will push very hard to get us out of a primary. Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Through the lawsuit and all that stuff, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Use the lawsuit to get us out of the open primary. And by the way, they were close to getting the votes to get us out of the open primary, fairly close before, because you got a lot of people on the SEC who are so angry at the open primary. By the way, they're insane. Sorry. And good people. I'm sure I agree with them on a lot of things, but they're insane on this topic. Right. Opting out of the open primary is the dumbest. It's a total death knell to the party. But setting all that aside, the strategy of this makes perfect sense. If she can get us out of a primary so he doesn't have to run in a primary.
SPEAKER 14 :
Then he's a shoo-in to be the nominee.
SPEAKER 04 :
Then he has, just going through assemblies, then he has a very good chance.
SPEAKER 14 :
He would be the candidate then.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, he has a very good chance.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, in that particular setting? Probably, Andy. It's almost a shoe-in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because once again, as we've said before, less than 1% of Colorado Republicans go to caucus and assembly. If you only have to go through caucus and assembly and through those methods to get to win... And if it's only in those settings where they hold the vote, however they're going to structure it, and there's been a few different plans, but however they're going to structure it, if they only hold it in those settings to hold the vote for who is our candidate because we don't have a primary, because once again, if you get out of the open primary, that doesn't mean you have a closed one. It means you have no primary. You have to put through a different system as a party. Correct. If there is no primary, Dave could actually become the candidate for the Republicans. Now, in a general election, I can't even calculate the percentage that Dave would lose by. In a general election running for governor in Colorado. 80-20. It could be 80-20. He could literally lose by 60%. Mm-hmm. Now, I don't think it'd be that bad because there are so many Republicans in our state who would just say, I cannot vote. I've got to vote Republican. I've got to vote the R. No matter what. No matter what. And I'm one of them. I don't know that I could vote for him, but I would because I always vote the R. I would be going out of my mind.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because I think that might be the only time in my life I'd write someone else's name in.
SPEAKER 04 :
It would be tempting. I would be very tempted. I'm not kidding. I have always voted the R. Me too. I've never written in. I've never done the Ron Hanks thing. Me neither. And campaigned against my party.
SPEAKER 14 :
Me neither, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
But anyway, yeah, he could literally lose by 80-20. I think it would be more like 70-30, which is still unbelievable.
SPEAKER 14 :
Still bad.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. It is possible that their entire plan is for, because Darcy is much more electable than Dave is for the state party chair. Just because she actually works. She has been out in the field. She has been helping candidates. And these people don't know that she buys into all the absolute kooky things that Dave does. And she does. She supported him. She supported Dave through every crazy... Dave having the state party campaign against its own candidates, which they did. Never been done before. She supports that. Okay. I mean, Dave running... Dave actually running in a primary against fellow Republicans while serving as their state chair. And using state money to do so. And using state money to do so. Darcy supported that. The state party actually putting out literature and putting it to tens of thousands of homes that campaigned for the state chair and against... The Republican who wound up winning, she supported that. Okay. And I'm only getting started. I won't go any further. Okay. The list is, you know, 12 to 15 huge, horrible things that they did. She supported every single one of them. Dave is Darcy. Darcy is Dave. So if Darcy, but Darcy is more likable than Dave. She's not as unlikable as Dave. So if she gets state chair, yeah, she will push it through for us to not have a primary. And then Dave could become the candidate for governor and lose by a massive landslide. You almost wonder if Democrats are bankrolling this. Almost. I wouldn't know. I sit back and I just go.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm a little bit dumbfounded because I'm trying to process all of this. Although, Andy, what the scenario you just gave.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Knowing Dave the way that I know him, I don't know him personally other than interviewing him here a few times in the past, but knowing his ulterior motives, everything you just said makes a thousand percent sense.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, but here's the question. Could Dave Williams literally think somehow he could have a chance to win the governorship?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, he's delusional because he thinks he's Trump 2-0. Dude, there's delusional and then there is... I'm telling you, Andy. He thinks he's Trump 2-0. He thinks he's the Trump of Colorado. That's what Dave thinks. Trust me when I say that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Outside of his hardcore base, he is a statewide laughingstock.
SPEAKER 14 :
But he thinks... He is Trump 2-0 in Colorado. I'm not exaggerating when I say that.
SPEAKER 04 :
This guy told Republicans to burn pride flags, to literally commit crimes by burning other people's property. He told us to do that. And by the way, Darcy Shaining once again stood right by him and said, yep, and supported him in this because she supported everything he did. The idea that he could win...
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, gosh, even 40% is ludicrous. I know. I know, Andy. I know. But I'm here to tell you.
SPEAKER 04 :
You really think he's that deluded?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. I think in his mind, he thinks he's Trump 2-0. And part of this, again, Andy, and we can come back after break and talk more about this, but part of this is because it's like a pastor gone wild. When you've got... Few members of the congregation that continually pump that guy up to where he thinks he's now like Christ, because some of those guys get to that point, by the way, because their parishioners push them in a way that direction. How is that any different than Dave and his followers?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, nobody's ever spoken the truth to me like you do, sir.
SPEAKER 14 :
How is it any different than the followers of Dave here?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, it isn't. They talk that way. Okay, so am I right? Look, these are the Rhino Watch people. Which, by the way, I'm going to have some fun with Rhino Watch later in this hour. But these are the Rhino Watch kooks. They do look at him as an almost messianic character. Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because he expresses... He is the savior of Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
He expresses their rage. Right. The way they want.
SPEAKER 14 :
So if he were to run for governor, yes, he and them think he's got a really good shot at winning because he's going to promote it as, I am the Trump for Colorado. Trust me, that'll be his campaign slogan.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but he's nothing like Trump. But that's what he'll tell everybody. Trump builds a broad coalition. Dave builds the narrowest coalition he can.
SPEAKER 14 :
Dave tears it down, Andy. It's the opposite.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Dave narrows the coalition.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct. He purges. Correct. Correct. Okay, we'll come back and talk more about it, because I don't think I'm too far off on... I don't think you're off on that, and I don't think I'm off on the lie. No, I don't think you're off, actually. Flesh Law coming up next, 303-806-8886. Civil, criminal, you name it, Kevin's there to help you. Again, 303-806-8886.
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Myself, Andy, and Charlie. Somebody texted in and would like us to list off some of the things that not only do we feel, but we have proof of in regards to Darcy being, of course, one of Dave's right hands, and then Dave himself. Now, to give some backstory, and this may be somebody new to listening to us. Maybe you haven't heard me talk about this. I've been really calling out Dave, and I'm not exaggerating when I say this. It's not quite... two years because he hasn't quite been chairman for two years but within thirty days of Dave becoming chair I personally started calling him out for some other behavioral things I noticed in those just snowballed and I'm not exaggerating when I say that I mean folks really quick and he's got a full list but Everything from the way he's handled money inside of the GOP, the way that he pays himself and reimburses himself, the way that he has paid some of his cronies to come in and do some of the things that he has done. And before anybody shoots back at me and say that other administrations prior to Dave have done the same thing, I don't care. That's not the point. The point is, this is what Dave is doing. And by the way, I've called others out for other things in the past. So please don't anybody ever tell me that I haven't called out previous chairs because I have. But the reality is Dave has done a lot of very questionable things when it comes to the money that's being spent inside of the GOP. Also including his own run for CD5 that he used Colorado GOP funds for. And there were some really shady things as far as how all of that worked and how it was repaid and so on. And it borderlines on fraud, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. And if you don't believe me, which I have done this, by the way, so if you don't believe me, go look up the FEC reports online. on the Colorado GOP and run through all of the income and expenses all the way back to where Dave took over, and you'll understand exactly what I'm talking about. And by the way, go look up some of the companies that Dave has paid, and you run the tracking on that. And tell me how these people ever got into the GOP in Colorado and got paid the sums of money that they got paid in the first place. So, number one, that's my number one complaint among others. And everything I just said is factual and provable by going and looking at that report. Right. Okay. So, number one, that's your first thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. First of all, let's just look at the list. The list is endless.
SPEAKER 14 :
The list is many.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. Okay. First of all, let's just look at some of the results. Okay. Okay. In this election, Donald Trump increased his national average over the Democrat by 6.2% in the popular vote nationally. Here in Colorado, he only increased by 2.5%. That means in Colorado, we lost about 60% of Trump's national red wave. So just looking at performance here. Okay, number two. Dave and his team endorsed three candidates. Now, they endorsed three candidates in the House races. We had four of them.
SPEAKER 14 :
Actually endorsed more, but those three key.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, they endorsed four, if you include Boebert. I'm talking in contested races. Gotcha. Contested races. Prior to the primary.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, prior to the primary. For the primary, they endorsed them. And remember, everybody listening, your state chair and the office of is supposed to be neutral, helping all candidates win in that primary. They are not supposed to pick winners and losers when it comes to primary race.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. They endorsed three. Okay, him being one of them. Right, himself. In House races, those three lost by an average of 33% across these three House races. Had those three won, we would now not hold the House of Representatives. Nationally. Okay, and that is, I can prove that, I don't have time, but in CD3 and CD8, we absolutely would have lost. Let me just give you a quick example. In CD8, their candidate that they endorsed lost by 56% in the primary, and we only won the general election by 0.8%. Almost one point, folks, barely. Less than one point. Okay, do you think that their candidate who lost the primary by 56% could possibly have gotten the support to win a race that our better candidate only won by 0.8%?
SPEAKER 14 :
Not a snowball's chance. That's a great example, by the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the other one, CD3 is an even worse example. Their candidate was so bad that the Democrat was running ads to help their candidate in the primary.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, so was our... And really quick, going back to my complaints with... the chairmanship in the office of and so on, they were doing the very same thing against that candidate, just like the Democrats were. In fact, they were using the exact Democrat ad to go against our candidate on our side in that particular district.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, in fact, let's jump ahead to that. OK, but we would have lost. So first of all, we lost 60 percent of the Trump red wave here in Colorado. Number two, we would have lost the House had we gone with their endorsements. Number three, they actually ran a Democrat ad. They promoted a Democrat ad.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep, without saying, by the way, it was a Democrat ad, which is illegal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, they cut off the end.
SPEAKER 14 :
Which is illegal, by the way, which I called them out for.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Hope Scheppelman promoted it. She's the vice chair, and she did this with Dave's knowledge. And then, after she got exposed for running, for promoting a Democrat ad against a Republican... She's in leadership. After getting exposed, guess what? She did it again. She said, well, yeah, it's still a good ad, and she promoted it again against the guy who eventually became our candidate. Okay, next. This is all part of the fact that for the first time ever, our state party literally campaigned against Republican candidates. Okay. We're talking about that. We had mailers and newspapers sent out from the state party. It read right on them, paid for by the Colorado Republican Committee that were sent out to tens of thousands of homes. republican primary voters that campaigned for their candidates and against the republicans who eventually won right so this means that republican candidates had to spend their time and money and i mean a lot of time and a lot of money first campaigning against their own state party before they ever got to campaign against the democrats that's right exactly okay so continue on what else okay um those are great examples already by the way Yeah, I mean, unbelievable. Next, by the way... Wait, it's really quick.
SPEAKER 14 :
By the way, everything we just said should be enough to be against Dave Williams being the chair of the GOP. But wait, there's more.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wait, there's way more. I've only gotten started. But wait, there's more. Yeah. By the way, Dave campaigned for the whole idea that they could endorse in... The state party had never done this before.
SPEAKER 14 :
Changed the bylaws to even allow them to do so.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. He pushed that change to where they could endorse in primaries. Okay. This is ridiculous. That meant that the state party could campaign against our own candidates. Okay, next.
SPEAKER 14 :
Really quick. Let's not forget that when it came to the presidential primary election, the state party, Dave, decided that they were going to charge each candidate. Oh, let me do that one. Each candidate a certain amount of money to even be allowed to be on the primary ticket in Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, okay. I wasn't even going to bring that up, but I am now. We actually, for the first time, charged presidential candidates $40,000 just to participate in our primary. Then, after that, Dave... Dave campaigned for the state party, and they did it, to endorse Donald Trump against the other candidates.
SPEAKER 14 :
That paid money as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Who paid money. 40 grand each. And he refused to give back. He was even asked, will you give back their money? No. You took their money, and you're endorsing against them. They paid to be in your primary, and now you're endorsing against them. No. He would not give them back their money. Sorry. I just had to slip that in. Yeah. I mean, that's unbelievable. That's huge, too. Okay. Next, Dave, from the state party headquarters, he and his team launched or co-launched Rhino Watch, which is the militant online arm of the Colorado Republican Party leadership. Now... How do we know that he did this? Because, first of all, they speak solely for him. Secondly, Todd Watkins witnessed them coming up with this idea. He even has emails to that effect. Thirdly, Weston Imer, who was working at the state party at the time and working with them, admitted online that he was part of launching Rhino Watch. And fourthly, nobody, since we put this out there, has ever
SPEAKER 14 :
denied in fact really quick and whoever's texted this said thank you very much by the way for all of the information we're giving this is very very helpful thank you for listening and asking but really quick go ahead everything that andy just said about rhino watch i have personally given invitations to certain individuals and by the way dave williams all the way back to where he first became state chair i have asked dave publicly online other places many times to come on air and defend his position on all the things that andy and i are talking about Crickets. Crickets.
SPEAKER 04 :
They launched from state GOP headquarters a hit site solely designed to attack and divide Republicans.
SPEAKER 14 :
But Andy and I have never made it on there, and I don't know why. We've tried so hard. I have. I've worked really hard to be on there.
SPEAKER 04 :
I guess maybe I'm just bitter because I'm not on their wall of shame. They put on their wall of shame people like Heidi Ganahl, who was our candidate for governor last time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Who, by the way, has a great organization right now that gives out a lot of great useful information on things that are happening inside of Colorado and ways that we can fight against the Democrats.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, sure. She's working for the cause.
SPEAKER 14 :
She does it every single day, by the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, she's working for the cause. And you can say, well, she's established. Who cares? She's part of the GOP working for the cause. She's still working for us. They have put all kinds of people on the rhino wall of shame, and these are all people who are considered enemies of who? Dave Williams. The Rhino Watch operates as nothing but the hit site, the militant online arm of Dave Williams.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's all they do.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's all it is, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
And in the next... Okay, really quick.
SPEAKER 14 :
Let's not forget, because we've got time. Let's not forget that one of the last things they did, by the way, was hire an attorney who, by the way, doesn't have the cleanest of records himself to do nothing but go after and legally prosecute those individuals that have gone against Dave Williams and or that Dave Williams doesn't like.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Dave Williams... Yeah, what they're doing is a purge. Dave Williams is trying to execute a purge of the Republican Party of all dissent. And by the way, we haven't even gotten into the bylaws changes. Long story short, the bylaws changes he's putting through, and this is admitted by everybody who studied them, okay? This is not me alleging this. This is fact. He's trying to dramatically lower the number of votes of people who vote against him, who don't like him on the state central committee.
SPEAKER 14 :
For example, in Colorado. Because these would be people who, by the way, would oppose Darcy. State representatives, by the way, in Colorado. Some of the ones we were just mentioning that won their election in spite of Dave. Typically in the past, each one gets a vote. Dave wants to change the bylaws to where only one of them of their choosing gets a vote.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you total it all up, yes. In other words, you have like 20-some who have a vote. He would have only one represent all of them as a vote. When you total it all up, Dave wants to remove about pretty close to three dozen votes on the state central committee, which is pretty evenly split. He wants to remove that many votes.
SPEAKER 14 :
So about 36 votes, basically.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And that would be votes against Darcy. Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you're going to stack the table, in other words, stack the cards.
SPEAKER 04 :
You want to stack that vote so Darcy can win, and then she can get rid of the primary, and who can become our candidate for governor then?
SPEAKER 14 :
And that's Dave. Dave Williams. By the way, that was a really quick synopsis. We could go on for the rest of the show and even continue this on into future programs. And we've done a lot of this in the past. So, number one, thank you for the question. There's a lot of folks that start listening that maybe haven't heard me ranting on this for almost the past two years, which, by the way, I have. I was the first, not bragging, but the first media person in all of Colorado, probably anywhere, to call Dave out once. on the bad behavior in his poor leadership as Colorado GOP chair.
SPEAKER 04 :
You were the very first one to say he must step down. And one last one, and then we'll go to break. The very fact that he ran against fellow Republicans in a contested primary while serving as their chair. An unbelievable conflict of interest. Huge. And then he lied and said, oh, that's what Ken Buck did. Buck never ran against Republicans. No, he didn't. He never ran in a contested primary.
SPEAKER 14 :
is in it for Dave alone. Those that are close to him think they're best friends of Dave. Literally, they are tools that are being used by Dave so Dave can get where he wants to go at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Beautifully put.
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And again, yeah, thank you, by the way, for asking that question. It's probably good for us occasionally to do a little recap of things because, by the way, why does that matter? Some of you are probably thinking, why does this matter? Who cares, guys? Well, because it's our state. Yeah, I'm a native of this. I hate losing. They don't have a supermajority, but they're only off by a couple of seats to not have a supermajority. And the reality is we only picked up maybe at most, Andy, one or two seats this last election round. I think three overall.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, three overall.
SPEAKER 14 :
To keep them from having a supermajority.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And by the way, Dave and Hope are actually claiming credit. Because we picked up like three seats. And it's like, folks, reminder, okay? You do realize Kamala Harris did not swing, did not flip a single district in the entire nation.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct. We had a grand opportunity to come into the state of Colorado with the proper messaging and things with particular candidates in support of. And by the way, really quick for those of you, whoever asked this, you can even go ask some of the losing candidates across our state. how much support they got from the state party when it came to some of the things they were doing in their own election. And they will tell you straight up their feelings on our current chair and what they did to sabotage their own elections, by the way, or their own runs, if you would. So, by the way, I'm not the only one saying this. You can go ask some of these candidates, get it from the horse's mouth, on what either our current leadership either didn't do to help them or what they did against them.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're going to hear horror stories, but you know what? It's important to bring this up because Dave and Hope and their team, this is their big talking point. They'll say, for the first time, we finally turned the corner. We finally won some seats. We're after losses under the previous several chairs. Okay. The previous several chairs were in 2022, 2020, and 2018, all blue waves. Okay. Yes, in three blue waves, we lost seats. Uh-huh. During that time, Colorado had a massive influx, as you know, of blue state voters moving into Colorado. So, number one, this was during the incredible influx that was pouring in of blue state voters. So each election cycle, we were bluer than the election cycle before. Couple that with national blue waves happening at the same time. Now, over the last two years, we've not had... the influx of blue state voters that we've had.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Slow down. The influx has slowed down.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And we just had a national red wave.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I'm not giving passes to some of our previous chairs because, by the way, I criticized at that time some of our strategy or lack thereof when it came to getting candidates elected and so on. So believe me, I didn't start picking on Dave back when he became chair just to pick. In fact, I gave Dave... a solid 30 days to see what would he do moving forward. And right out of the chute, by the way, the first thing Dave came out with was how bad the last chair had done, sounding like a Democrat. Rather than talking about the future and what we can do moving forward and so on, and yeah, we've had a little bit of hiccups here and there, but the reality is we're ready to move forward. No, no, no, no. Right out of the chute, The reason he couldn't do XYZ was because of the last chair.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dave, this was, by the way, the first time I'd ever seen this. Am I right? Oh, yes. Dave came out of the chute and immediately, in speaking around the state, not only him, but his people, he sent his people to meetings around the state. I was in one, where his people would go into the meetings and bash Christy Burton-Brown.
SPEAKER 14 :
KBB, the last one.
SPEAKER 04 :
This had never been done before. Christy Burton-Brown was the state chair during a blue wave following two more years of heavy blue state immigration into our state. Correct. Okay. And they didn't account for that at all. Anyway, bottom line. So what they try to say is... Number one, we finally turned the corner and won a few states, won a few seats back. And it's just like, guys, you underperformed dramatically versus the national red wave. Secondly, they'll say, and our registration's up. Newsflash.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is nationwide.
SPEAKER 04 :
Republican registration skyrocketed over the last two years.
SPEAKER 14 :
And ours didn't.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Ours only went up a little. It skyrocketed over the last two years.
SPEAKER 14 :
And really quick, guys, there's episodes in the past of this show where I went into details, Andy and I did, of the actual numbers, literally the numbers of registered voters and so on. And I break it all down to prove what Andy just said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's not impressive at all.
SPEAKER 14 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
One last thing. They put themselves out as the Christians. You know, we're very Christian. And if you don't support us, you must not like Jesus politics and stuff like this. This is something that I put to all the Dave supporters. and none of them have an answer, I say, okay, Jesus told us, by the way, my degree's in the ministry, for those who don't know. Jesus told us, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Okay, would you have the state chair run against you in a primary?
SPEAKER 01 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
in a Republican primary and weaponize the state party apparatus to campaign against you with state party resources in the primary, would you have that done to you?
SPEAKER 14 :
No. And as I said all along as well, not only is it not Christian-like, it's really, really crappy leadership telling you exactly how poor of a leader Dave is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Would you have the state party endorse against you in a primary? No. And so I would list off 10 or 12 things and say, would you have this? Would you have this? Would you have this? And you know what their answer is? crickets and they can't answer any of it because nothing that dave williams and these people have done in leadership is christ-like at all it'd be like the new pastor comes over takes over the church and all he does is blame the old pastor for all the problems the church has right and then wields and then wields power in corrupt fashion against anybody who disagrees with him you tell me is that christian
SPEAKER 14 :
No, that's corruption at its core.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's corruption, not Christian.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's corruption. And that's what I've called Dave out on almost now for two straight years. And I won't stop. I'll keep going. Hopefully what Andy predicted doesn't happen and he doesn't end up running for governor. Although I'm afraid Andy's right. It's bizarre. I'm afraid Andy is correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's just a rumor right now.
SPEAKER 14 :
It makes total sense as to what's going on because it's either one of two things. Either Dave is going to do something statewide like running for governor, which, by the way, is the only thing he probably would be qualified for. He can't do AG or anything else like that, so it would have to be something along those lines. Or he's going to take a position inside of the Trump Organization, although I've seen nothing anywhere at all coming from the Trump Organization regarding anybody in Colorado having any kind of a seat at the table when it comes to his administration. So I highly doubt that's the case.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, thus far, Dave and his team have been frozen out.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I don't see anything along those lines happening. There's not an ounce of rumor along those lines whatsoever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, to close this segment out, the only thing I can think of for a reason for Dave to run for governor is this money. Maybe he could milk the campaign for money. If he honestly thinks that he could somehow actually compete to be governor. I have never seen that level of delusion politically. I literally haven't. He is – Dave is the most unpopular political figure in the state of Colorado.
SPEAKER 14 :
But in his world – I go back to what I said earlier to Andy. In his world – With his quote-unquote cronies that surround him. He only hears from them, I understand. He hears from them how great he is. Oh, yeah, you could run for governor. Oh, yeah, we could get you elected, no problem. That's what he's hearing, Andy. So in his demented mind, he's thinking he could actually win. You may be right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And when we see powerful people who have nothing but a little group chirping at them around them, they can go nuts. Maybe he's just nuts. I don't know.
SPEAKER 14 :
I got nothing. It happens a lot. It does. And unfortunately, it happens in all sorts of things. It happens in the music world. It happens in the acting world. It happens in political realms in the past, in history. It happens with church pastors and leaders and so on. Folks, it happens all the time because unfortunately, we men are fallible. We have a sin nature. Dave is no different, by the way. And every one of us, if not kept in check, which, by the way, is what I've tried to do on this program, is keep Dave in check. And what happens is when people won't allow themselves to be kept in check, they go awry. And that's Dave. Am I right in what I just said, by the way? Yeah, I'm agreeing with you. It happens in the ministry a lot, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm about to agree with you. There had to be an actual Custer for Custer's last stand. There had to be an actual military leader that deluded and stupid to charge into that. Okay? People can be that deluded and insane. It can happen.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and by the way, I could give you examples currently worldwide of individuals that have gone that route, including the Prime Minister of Canada that just resigned, Trudeau, because he fits that description as well. Even though, for the most part, his entire country is against him, that guy, for some delusional reason, thought he's their hero.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, what did you and I say when Liz Cheney announced she was going to run again?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, same, delusional. We were just like, she's delusional! Delusional. Just like a lot of Democrats are, they get delusional and think certain things as well, i.e. Kamala Harris thinking she could win the presidency.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, at least, you know, she came within, you know.
SPEAKER 14 :
A small margin? Not really.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, she had a way better chance of winning the presidency than Dave Williams says of winning the governorship.
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We don't yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
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All right, closing things out for today. Quick show today. We appreciate you guys listening. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. Okay, we got about a minute and a half or so left. Rhino Watch.
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Okay, really quick. Rhino Watch has put out how you can identify a rhino. Seriously, a Republican in name only. And here's how. Do you ask any Colorado Republican, do you support the current lawsuit asking the court to let the Colorado Republican Party opt out of the open primary and return to a system where you have to be a Republican to vote in a Republican primary? If they say yes, then they are a patriot. If they say no, they're a rhino. In other words, if you support opting out of the primary system, You are a patriot. If you don't, you're a rhino. Forget about all your views on all the issues. Gun rights, abortion, men and women's sport, immigration, drill, baby drill, school choice, gun, free speech. None of that matters. All that matters is do you support opting out?
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Dumbest thing ever, by the way. Yeah. That is not a test to determine if somebody is a true blue conservative Republican or not, by the way.
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Right. And by the way, I don't support opting out. Real quick. Why? Number one, if it hadn't been for the open primary, Trump would right now not have the U.S. House majority. Correct. Okay. Number two, in the large majority of unaffiliated voters voted for, that's half the state's voters voted for the open primary. That's our market. That's reality. You are telling us, Rhino Watch is telling us to tell them, get off my lawn. Yep. Yep. I mean, can you imagine this for a moment if we actually did this? Oh, and lastly, if we do that, if we opt out, our tax dollars are going to pay for ballots to be sent out to all the unaffiliated voters that only have Democrat names. We are literally going to pay our taxes to advertise Democrats to the state.
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Dumb. The whole thing is dumb. Unbelievable. And by the way, there's better things to do with the money being spent on that lawsuit, i.e. getting candidates elected, which I have said over and over again. So guys, that's it for today. Appreciate the questions. Appreciate you guys listening. Of course, a lot more to come tomorrow. First hour, health and wellness. We've got a great guest joining us. Have a great night. Be safe with the wind blowing. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
Dive deep into the core of spiritual growth and motivation with Rick Hughes on The Flatline. This episode highlights the critical role of the Holy Spirit as a mentor and guide in the life of a believer. Rick passionately articulates the necessity of consistent scripture intake and a renewed mindset to reflect divine viewpoints, drawing from biblical sources like Philippians 2:5 and Romans 12:1-3. With captivating explanations of prayer, faith, and eternal security, Rick encourages believers to stand firm in their faith, equipped with the armor of God.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few minutes, please stay with me. It'll be 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of education, but obviously no manipulation, no games, no con artists, no tricks, no gimmicks. We're not trying to solicit money. We're not trying to solicit membership. We're just simply here to give you some information. Information that's designed to remind you of biblical truths and introduce you to an in-depth way of studying and learning the Word of God. My job is to educate. Your job is to evaluate what I say. And if you agree, then you can orient and adjust. That's up to you. But I'm going to get it right, I'm going to get it accurate, and I'm going to give it straight. No games, as I said. The Flatline is always about teaching the wonderful problem-solving devices found in the Word of God. FLOT stands for Forward Line of Troops, and this is a military metaphor for using 10 unique problem-solving devices like the military has a main line of resistance to keep the enemy out of the command center. And the enemy for you is human viewpoint thinking, it's satanic strategy, it's the evil system of the cosmic system that we live in, and by learning God's word, are establishing a flat line in your soul then you can stop the outside sources of adversity from overrunning the command post of your soul, which is the way that you think. Your spiritual life is always lived the way that you think. And so today, as we continue in the Floodline, our message today is the gift of our resources. Our resources, things that God has provided for you. And those spiritual resources are unbelievable. The spiritual life that we live and that you live has divine resources. The unbelieving world does not have that. I guess I call them disadvantaged because they don't have the resources that you have. These resources for the believer must be in your soul if you're going to utilize them. If you ever hope to glorify God to the maximum in your life, you must know your resources and you must use your resources. Glorifying God is what we are mandated to do. Listen to 1 Peter 4.11. You see, this is what our spiritual life is all about, this glorifying God. 1 Peter 4.11, whoever speaks is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God, and whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies, so that in all things God may be glorified. through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. Then Romans 16, 27, another verse that speaks to the glorifying of God. It says, to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ be glory forever. So my job And your job is to give maximum glorification to God by means of our spiritual life. That's what we're supposed to do. And the fact that we believe the word of God and we trusted Jesus Christ to be our savior and redeem us out of the slave market of sin, that's part of glorifying God. Now, maximum glorification of God, maximum glorification of God occurs when we, you and me, when we reach spiritual maturity. And at that point, we begin to represent the mind of Christ. And this is how we go through evidence testing in our life. And this is how we give maximum glorification to God by learning his word, applying his word, using his word through the evidence testing that we face in our life. So in order to bring God maximum glory, Jesus Christ, our Lord, the anointed son of God provided a tutor for us. or what we call a mentor, and it's in the form of the Holy Spirit. And so the number one divine resource for you and me is the Holy Spirit. And the number two divine resource for you and me is a completed canon of Scripture. We call it a Bible, and it is the thinking of Christ in written form. 1 Corinthians 2.16 says we have the mind of Christ. So in regards to the Lord Jesus Christ giving us this divine resource of the Holy Spirit, this is what he said in John 14, 16. I will ask the Father and he will give you another helper that he may be with you forever. That is the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it does not see him or does it know him, but you will know him because he abides with you and he will be in you. Abiding with you, he was speaking to the disciples now when he said that. And the disciples had the abiding presence of the Holy Spirit with the endowment ministry, but come the church age, come Pentecost he would be in them and he is in you and I today we are sealed with the Holy Spirit Ephesians 1 13 and we are mandated to be filled with the Holy Spirit Ephesians 5 18 so the Lord Jesus Christ went on to say I have a lot more things to say to you but you cannot bear them right now verse 13 of John 16 but when he that's the spirit of truth comes He will guide you into all truth. There's the tutor. There's the mentorship. He will guide you into all truth because he will not speak of his own initiative. but whatever he hears, he will speak, and he will disclose to you what is to come. And listen to verse 14, he will glorify me, for he will take of mine and disclose it to you. So God is glorified by means of the ministry of the Holy Spirit in the believer's life as he tutors us and mentors us. And without the filling of the Holy Spirit, then that's problem-solving device number two in the flat line of your soul, the filling of the Holy Spirit. Without the filling of the Holy Spirit, the believer, that's you and I, we would not be able to metabolize the divine resources that we have available. In other words, these resources are taught in the Bible, taught in the Scripture, and they have to be learned if they're going to be utilized. I mean, if you don't know them, you cannot use them. If you want to get to Albuquerque and you don't have a map, how are you going to get there? Well, the Word of God is a map. It's a divine resource. It's a tool. It's not a good luck thing. It's not something you leave in the windshield of your car during the week and take it out on Sunday morning. It is a textbook designed by God to be taught to you by a well-qualified pastor who is prepared to who knows the languages and who's able to communicate line by line, word by word, verse by verse. And so we are to learn God's word. And these divine resources, if we don't learn them, how can we use them? The mystery doctrine of the church is a great resource. It's Christ in you, the hope of glory. And that's Colossians 1.27. That's a resource. Jesus Christ lives in you. This is the same Christ that indwelt the tabernacle of the Old Testament where the Jews called him the Shekinah glory. The glory of God resided in the tabernacle and 1 Corinthians 3 says he now resides in you, that your body is the temple of Jesus Christ. That's what the Holy Spirit does. He bridges a tent so Christ can camp out in your body. And then the whole concept of growing and learning has to come from, for example, like 2 Timothy 2.15. Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman at need, if not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. That means not getting it wrong, not getting crooked, not getting twisted up. And then 2 Peter 3.18, grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory. There it is again, maximum glorification of God. both now and forever. As you grow, you bring glory to God through Christ. There is no growth without studying and growing. You must study to grow. And this is not a daily devotional, 10 minutes a day. This is not once a week listening to a 30-minute sermon by your pastor. If you ever intend to grow spiritually, you must take in the Word of God on a consistent basis. As for me, I do it on a daily basis. I listen to my pastor teach the Word of God to me by means of a DVD or an MP3 on a daily basis. You say, how could I do that? Well, my particular pastor has over 1,000 hours already taught on the life of Christ, and you can access those. They're free. They're available online. So there's 1,000 hours worth of catching up you got to do, and every 1,000 hours you catch up, you'll be 1,000 hours behind, unless you did two a day. But I try to listen every day, take in the Word of God every day. It's oftentimes where I get motivated to bring the message to you by listening what he teaches to me. I'm not a pastor. I'm under the authority of a well-qualified pastor. And just like you, I have to study, I have to grow, I have to learn, I have to apply. But they only can do this by renovating my thinking. We are mandated to renovate our thinking, and that is if we're going to utilize these resources God has for us. We must change the way we think. We must be able to reflect the mind of Jesus Christ, which is called divine viewpoint. if we ever want to use our divine resources. So where does it say that in the Bible? It says it in Philippians 2.5. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus. And then in Romans 12, one through three, here's where Paul wrote, I beseech you, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice that's dedicated to the Lord, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service, and don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. That means you must move out of the way the cosmic system thinks. You must move away from human viewpoint thinking to divine viewpoint thinking, and that is learning the mind of Christ in the New Testament. So being transformed by the renewing of your mind. Again, Philippians 2.5, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. Why? So that we may prove what is good, what is acceptable, what is the perfect will of God. And then he goes on in verse three of Romans 12. For I say through the grace given unto me to every man that's among you, do not think more highly of yourself than you ought. And this is a warning to stay out of the arrogance complex of the soul. but to think soberly according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. Soberly is humility. God wants you to think in terms of humility, not arrogance. So as you take his word, as you learn his word, as you reflect divine viewpoint through your life under the concept of humility, then you begin to bring maximum glorification to God. In 1 John 5, 11 through 13, we have another divine resource, a wonderful resource called eternal security. 1 John 5, 11 through 13, this is the record. God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that has the Son has life, and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things I wrote unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life and that you may have confidence in the name of the Son of God. You can know it. You don't have to hope it. You don't have to try. You don't have to want. You can know it. In John 10, 28, I will give them eternal life and they will never perish. Neither will any man be able to pluck them out of my Father's hand because my Father who gave them to me is greater than all. And no man can pluck them out of my Father's hand. And in Hebrews 13, 5, Christ said, I will never leave you. I will never forsake you. Let's get some principles on this. A, eternal security is a doctrine that cements the believer's eternal future. You don't have to worry about your future. It's locked in. It's done. It's taken care of. B, God will not cancel your eternal life. What he gives, he does not take back. He's not an Indian giver. And C, he's given us plus R. That's his righteousness. We have minus R, our righteousness. He's given us his righteousness through Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5, 17. He who knew no sin was made sin for us so that we may be made the righteousness of God through him. So he gave us this righteousness through Christ, and he is not going to cancel that gift and then condemn you to hell because you committed some sin that's grievous to you or to others. It's not going to happen. You didn't earn your salvation and you can't earn to keep your salvation. For by grace are you saved through faith. It's a gift of God, not of works. Why would he give it to you as a gift and then require you to earn it to keep it? And D, our relationship with God does not depend on our integrity. It does not depend on our morality. It does not depend on our virtue, but rather it depends on his very holiness and his integrity. And we know that he's omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, immutable, immutable, Immutability, he does not change. He's not going to change his mind. He knew about you in eternity past. He knows about you today. He knows your weaknesses. He knows your strengths. He's not going to kick you out of the family because you fail. And E, you cannot lose your salvation because it's strictly the work of God. You did nothing to gain it. You do nothing to maintain it. It's the work of God, and he will not cast you off or say you can't have it, even if you fail in the Christian life. You still are going to go to heaven. You may be minus some rewards, but you're going to be there. ABCDEF, the enemy, that's aka the devil, loves to threaten you with the idea that you will lose your salvation. This is how he often manipulates guilt and shame on people. He's able to get them to do crazy things to try to make it up to God or try to promise God they won't ever do that sort of thing again. And then when they do, well, then they feel like that's it. There's no hope for me, and they have no joy of their salvation. So Satan is a master at manipulating you with this guilt and shame in your life. And it's for this reason that we are warned by the Apostle Paul in Ephesians 6, When he speaks of putting on the armor of God, he talks about putting on the helmet of salvation. That helmet protects your brain. It protects your mind. It protects what you think, because this is where Satan attacks you. He attacks your thinking. This is what he does. He attacks the way you think. And if he can get you to doubt God, as he got Eve to doubt what God said, If he can get you to be angry with God, as he himself is in fact, if he can get you to mistrust God, if he can get you to doubt God, well, then he is going to vindicate his argument with God. He doesn't want to go to the lake of fire. He constantly says God is unfair for condemning him to the lake of fire. and yet he himself chose to assume the throne of God. So, gee, this does not imply that you or I will succeed as winner believers by executing the Christian life. Winner believer, what do I mean by that? I mean a person who goes from spiritual autonomy to spiritual maturity, starting with spiritual self-esteem. When you reach spiritual maturity, when you go through evidence testing, you give maximum glorification to God. You will be a winner believer. Evidence testing is When you're called to the witness stand and you have to get up there and defend yourself in front of Satan. And this happens. I mean, this is what happens to believers in evidence testing. We go through the valley of the shadow of death. We go through it alone. It's an evidence testing to see whether or not we believe what God said. And if you're ever going to be a winner in the plan of God, you must have the right attitude towards the word of God or towards Bible doctrine. If you don't learn it, if you don't use it, if you don't grow, you're going to go to heaven, but you're going to be minus rewards. You're not going to hear that, well done, my good and my faithful servant. And that's what we're all looking for. What I'm looking for are some of you today, some of you wherever you may be in California, Wyoming, Denver, maybe across into Texas or Mississippi or all the way through Maryland or New York, anywhere. The show was played over 25 stations this morning in Tennessee, for example. If you are that winner, you are the person that will deliver this nation with an invisible impact. You are the person that will have a historical impact. You will be a member of the pivot. Just like Gideon chose 300 simple men to defeat the Midianite army, you can be one of the chosen ones. God will use you. but he only uses prepared people. Remember what he said? I'm looking for a man to stand in the gap between me and the people to make up the hedge. But he said in Ezekiel, I could not even find one. Can he count on you? Can you be that invisible hero? Can you have that historical impact in your life by being a mature believer, a person who consistently studies God's word on a daily basis, a person who stays filled with the Holy Spirit on a daily basis, a person who uses the faith thrust drill, which we're about to talk about? That's what God's looking for, and me too. now another divine resource is obviously prayer instantaneous communication with our heavenly father but we don't use prayer in order to hire god to do something we want done that's not possible prayer is not designed to get us out of trouble it is strictly designed to express our helplessness in time of need and our appreciation and adoration in time of blessing. So if we fail in prayer, my pastor once said, failing in prayer is like sleepwalking through life. You never even know what happens. So as a believer priest, which you are and which I am, we have a priestly function, and it's called prayer. We can pray for others. We can pray expressing gratitude and appreciation to God. It's called adoration. And we can pray for others in intercessory prayer, and we can pray for ourself as we express our needs to God. That's called a petition. It's a wonderful thing, the divine resource of prayer, instantaneous communication with God himself, right straight to the throne room of God. But failing to be filled with the Holy Spirit when you pray means you will not get an answer to your prayer. And your prayer will be an ineffective prayer. The Bible is clear in Psalm 66, 18. If I regard sin in my heart, iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear my prayer. He will not hear me. Why? Because the Holy Spirit is quenched. Because the Holy Spirit is grieved. Because he cannot intercede for you as he would. And Romans 8 talks about he intercedes with groanings that sometimes cannot even be uttered or understood. It's the ministry of the Holy Spirit to take your prayer before the throne of God. And it's the ministry of Jesus Christ, our great high priest, to intercede for us before God. We have to be filled with the Holy Spirit if we want our prayer life to be effective. And there's only one way to do that. And that is that we must use rebound, which is problem-solving device number one, On the flat line of our soul, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us. That's the secret to being filled with the Holy Spirit. Anytime you sin, you quench the Holy Spirit and you grieve the Holy Spirit. But when you rebound, when you confess your sin to God, then you resume your spiritual journey and you are filled with the Holy Spirit or controlled by the Holy Spirit once again. And remember that all prayer, must be addressed to the Father in the name of the Son through the filling of the Holy Spirit. A well-meaning prayer addressed to the Holy Spirit or a well-meaning prayer addressed to Jesus Christ the Son is not going to be answered. The prayers go to the Father in the name of the Son in the power of the Spirit. Another divine resource that we have as believers as the advantage ones of God is the faith rest drill, or using faith as a problem-solving device. Using faith means we stand on the promises of God as a spiritual resource. And it's one of those 10 problem-solving devices that I talk about. Problem-solving device number three found in the scripture. It begins like this, with you believing God when he makes a promise to you. For example, Proverbs 3, 5, trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not to your own understanding. In all of your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your path. And then in 1 Peter 5, 7. Cast all your anxieties on him for he cares for you. These are promises. And you can utilize these promises in time of adversity or affliction in your life. There are three stages to using the faithless drill. And the first, obviously, is the faith mechanics of mixing the promises of God with your own faith. So you take one of those 7,000 promises found in the Bible and you mix it with your faith. And then the second thing you do is that you go to a biblical rationale. You say, what's a rationale? It's a set of reasons or logical basis for a course of action or particular belief. You have a logical course of action. You reverse your concentration. You think about the faithfulness of God. You think about the justice of God. You think about the omniscience and omnipotence of God, and you come to a conclusion. That's the third step. You arrive at a biblical conclusion, and you relax in your circumstances. That's what it means to pick up the shield of faith, stand behind the promises of God, not to worry, not to sweat, not to be upset, but to trust in him completely because he has provided all the divine resources you need. And then obviously I want to close with the divine resource of rebound. Rebound handles our problem with sin. I mentioned it already. I'll mention it again. You will sin. You have a genetically formed old sin nature that you got from Adam. And you will sin. God knows this. whether it's a mental attitude sin or sin of the tongue or even an overt sin, but there is a way to be cleansed from that sin, and that is by using 1 John 1, 9, the rebound technique. When we confess our sin to God, then the Holy Spirit is free to control us and fill us once again. But if we ignore our sin and hide our sin, then we grieve the Spirit and we quench the Spirit, and we can never utilize our resources or advance in the Christian life. I hope this is making sense. I hope you're learning something and understanding what those resources are for you. And I hope you'll stick with me and come back next week. Same time, same station, same place. So until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flotline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Join Michael Bailey on Mobile Estate Planning as he addresses the crucial aspect of access in estate law. Michael explains how his practice is designed to fit client schedules, traveling to make estate planning simpler and more convenient. With humor and insight, he talks about the difference between organic and conventional foods, linking it to choices clients make for their futures. Michael also shares his experiences as a busy estate planning attorney, sometimes booked months in advance, and how he works to manage this demand. Through stories of his family and humorous referee anecdotes, he illustrates how having the right access to services can impact everything from legal planning to everyday life. This episode unravels the often complex world of estate planning into practical, real-world advice.
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Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey. Over a decade ago, attorney Michael Bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end of life planning. Michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan. That's why he became the Mobile Estate Planner. He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX Ask the Experts presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
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All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM. So we can do something besides just leave your family alone. So you are listening to 560 AM, possibly 100.7 FM. I guess it's also possible that you are listening on the KLZ 560 radio app. And if you are, I'm more than happy to have... uh you know you be there and have you be able to you know listen to and hear my show because i always appreciate my listeners i always appreciate people who do call and i'm just happy to have the chance to be here and talk about estate planning i mean someone yesterday was asked me what i do for a living and i said well i'm an estate planning attorney and they're like oh what does that mean so i talked about writing wills and trusts and they're like so is it fun and exciting and i just started laughing i'm like no it is if what i do is important and necessary fun and exciting really aren't the right words to describe what i do i mean then again i i wonder sometimes about what what professions might be considered fun and exciting um I mean, I think Mr. Luke has a fun and exciting job because he gets to have all of us go out on the air. And if he doesn't do his job, there's just dead air. It sounds like this. And that just isn't what we're looking for. You know, if if you want to listen to dead air, you can turn off the radio. But, you know, dead air on the radio may not work so well. So perhaps Mr. Luke has a fun and exciting job. But Mr. Luke might not think that his job is always fun and exciting. Would that be correct, Mr. Luke? Sometimes it is. Sometimes it is not. Yes. Depends on the day. Kind of work, right?
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Work in general. Sometimes fun, sometimes not. But it's okay. So the other day, on Monday, actually. That is another day. Cool. Look at that. So on Monday, we had planned to go. My daughter had a volleyball tournament over the weekend, which they did okay on Saturday. Did really well on Sunday, which is good. And you're like, hey, we're showing improvement in the first tournament of the tournament season. That's good. but Monday she was supposed to have a practice, and she was quite tired on Monday, so she decided she didn't want to go. Well, we needed to go to the store to pick up a couple of things because my wife had used the last pound of frozen hamburger we had, and we're like, well... If we want to cook something else in the future, then we should probably have some more of the little packages of frozen hamburger just in case. And so that we're not like, oh, hey, we need hamburger. Let's run off to the store right now. Run, run, run, run, run. Get it. Run, run, run, run back. And, you know, spend 15, 20, 30 minutes trying to get to the store. So we were planning ahead and had and you needed a little bit of. So we're and just because about five, 10 minutes away from where my daughter has volleyball practice, there is a Costco store. So we're like, well, we can drop her off at volleyball practice. We'll go to the Costco. We'll pick up what we need. We can come back, pick her up, and practice the last two hours. And it's about a half an hour away from our house, so we could drive out. I'm like, well, we could drive out there, and then we could drive back, and then we could drive out there and have like 45 minutes at home, or we could go to the store. So that was our big plan for Monday was to go to the store in the evening together. And then our daughter decided she didn't want to go because she was tired. And our response is, well, you have practice on Tuesday and on Thursday. Friday, she has a there's a basketball game that she's playing in the pep band for because she still plays. Marching band season is over, but she still plays in the pep band. And then this weekend, she has another volleyball tournament. So we're like, yeah, this is, you know, taking Monday off seems like an OK thing. But we still needed to buy the hamburger. And so we went off to the store and my 12-year-old, I was like, hey, how's homework going? He's like, oh, I'm trying to do this. I have to finish up this math quiz, but I'm kind of falling asleep. So I don't know how I'm doing. I'm like, why don't you come with us to the store? Costco has a decent snack bar so we can get him a piece of pizza, which is one of his favorite things. It's a piece of pizza from Costco. And they also have ice cream and, you know, ice cream sundaes where you can put chocolate or strawberry or whatever in it. We enticed him, we bribed him, not entice, bribe, whichever, with coming to the store with us so that he could get some pizza and some ice cream. Also, he could tell us what snacks he wanted and things like that. So we went, we got pizza and ice cream for him, came home, but as we were, I'm sorry, we came home after the part of the story I was going to tell later. But as we were eating the pizza, sitting there in the food court, some guy walked by and he saw that we had purchased ground beef. And he paused and he said, hey, so I have a friend who has a farm up in the Greeley area and he sells, you know, ground beef. And, you know, when they have the cows, they'll sell the beef. and he gave us the website. He's like, you know, you could go there. You can do that. We're like, Hey, cool. Thank you so much. We really appreciate that. And we thought about it and we're like, yeah, we've, I mean, my wife has always talked about wanting to buy part of a cow and, you know, have it just in the freezer and available because, you know, that fresh meat might be better and, you know, just more available and might even be cheaper. And so she was pretty excited about it. But we were also talking about how it's great to have that as an option, but we ran out of ground beef that day. And if we'd needed two pounds of ground beef instead of the one pound we had, we would have been in trouble. And although it's great to go on to a website and order the ground beef, I don't think they had in the next 30 to 45 minute delivery from Greeley to where we live in Thornton. So there was kind of going to be a problem there of access. Now, I mean, Costco, the only option they had for ground beef was their organic ground beef. And I'm not sure that, I'm not entirely sure what the difference between organic ground beef and non-organic ground beef is. I mean, maybe there's less of the chemicals that are, you know, used or, you know, maybe there's less antibiotics given to the cows or maybe they're, are stationed in a field that is far away from a farmer who might spray chemicals on their hay that they would then feed the cows. I'm not 100% sure on what makes ground beef organic versus non-organic. But that was the option they had at Costco, so that's what we bought. And we were talking about that. We're like, you know, there's still a place for a Costco where we're like, okay, we ran out of beef now. We might need some tomorrow or the next day. We didn't because we made different things for dinner. But still, it's, you know, my 12-year-old is a beef kind of guy. If he could have a hamburger for lunch and dinner and every single day, he probably would. You know, he likes his hamburgers. Um, we kind of have to force the issue of, no, let's see, maybe if we can have a vegetable stir fry today or something like that, or we'll make a chicken pasta dish, you know, just so that you can vary it up and have different things, but he would prefer a hamburger every single day. But we were talking, we were talking about how, even if the, we got the greatest beef ever from a farmer up in Greeley area, what we needed at that moment was. To be able to walk into a store, get the food and a piece of pizza that may have happened to occur, but then we could go home. So there is a place for both things. And sometimes access to a product or access to a service is very important and what is necessary and needs to be done. So in that access and in that part of what we do, it becomes part of the equation. And it really becomes part of the equation for me as an estate planning attorney. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560 AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. The phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, that's 720-394-6887. So access to being able to meet with someone like me. So when people call and they want to meet with me and talk about their estate plan, they're asking for access to me. And so I will talk to them and because I am booked all the way out until my first openings are April 1st at this point. So, and no, that's not an April fool's joke. That's just, I happen to be booked all the way through March. So that puts me about 10 or 11 weeks out with access to being able to sit down with me. And so, yeah. Some people, and I usually am pretty straightforward with that. I'm like, okay. Like, yeah, we could meet. I am scheduling appointments the first week of April right now. And I say, does that work for your timeframe? And some people will say, no, I need it done much sooner than that. And I say, okay, then you might need to search for another attorney who has sooner availability than I do. Because me being booked all the way through March is a fairly recent phenomenon, right? When I first started my law firm, there was not 10 or 11 weeks worth of people who were like, oh, hey, let's just all sign up with Michael right now so that we can be booked two and a half months out. There weren't just a whole bunch of people waiting around hoping that Michael Bailey would start his own law firm and that Michael Bailey would be an estate planning attorney so that And so I've worked my way up to that over the last 10 to 15 years. And it used to be that when I was first starting out, when somebody was they'd call to be like, oh, you know, we want to try to meet this week. I'm like, cool. You know, I could probably do tomorrow at 2 or 3 in the afternoon. And what that meant was I have the entire afternoon free, but I'm not like, oh, hey, I'm free for whenever you want because that just doesn't seem like the greatest of ideas. And, you know, to be too available, I mean, so there's, as a business owner, you always run the, you're trying to split the distance between being too available because you have nothing going on or not available at all because you have too much going on. And, you know, somewhere in the middle there is where we all end up, you know, different times. So when I first started as a law firm, I had a lot more available time. And so I could be available, you know, on a day or two's notice to be able to meet with somebody. Now that's not as possible for me. And sometimes I have people who are fairly sure That I should always have access for them and that I should always be able to meet with them within a day or two, and that I should always have the chance to get everything done. And apparently if they call me and ask me or email me, I should respond. immediately and have everything finished because apparently things don't take time they just you know it's it's all instantaneous we can hit the instantly solve problem button and it's amazing how that works well it doesn't work that way because life doesn't work that way but sometimes people will become quite upset that I don't have the availability and the access that they would like for me to have as an estate planning attorney. And so I usually explain that I am a solo estate planning attorney. So there's only one person in my firm. It's me. Um, I do have a paralegal and a notary who worked for me, um, But it's not quite the same. And so when we talk about access, I try to help as many people as I can as quickly as I can. But sometimes the concepts of access aren't quite as wonderful as we might think and what might seem. I mean, we've gotten used to as a society, you know, I can walk into Costco and I know that there will be some form of ground beef there that I can purchase because the people who run Costco have figured out how to have supply chains that bring in ground beef and that's that ground beef is there and it will get sold so that it won't spoil while it's at the store and So it can be sold to consumers and move on and do all of those wonderful things. And when you think about we're feeding 350 million people here in America and we get the food from the farms to the stores to people to be cooked and put on tables and with a fair amount of or a lack of rotting and spoilage and things like that. What they do with that is pretty darn amazing and pretty darn cool. And we benefit from that. Well, but I do recall during the pandemic trying to buy hamburger patties. And one Saturday I went to Sam's Club and there were no hamburger patties, not a single one in the store. So I drove up the road to went to Costco and Costco had hamburger patties so I could buy some hamburger patties. And then the next week I happened to be at Costco and there were no hamburger patties at Costco. They just didn't have any. So I drove down the road to Sam's Club and they had some hamburger patties. So it was just, you know, the supply chains weren't functioning quite as well for the stores during the pandemic for, you know, a number of reasons of government shutdowns. All those type of things. But it kind of gave us a little bit of a lesson in how access and supplies aren't always exactly what we think and what we may want. And, you know, that's true of services. That's true of services. goods. It's true of me and the services I provide as an estate planning attorney. I mean, several years ago, I mean, I still work as a basketball referee, but several years ago, I also worked as a baseball umpire and I do high school level baseball or summer league high school level baseball. And I remember one day an assigner called me and they're like, Hey, can you be at heritage high school at 2 p.m.? ? I said, well, you've already assigned me a game at Mountain Range High School at 2 p.m. So I could do both games, but you're only going to get half as good of calls and it's only going to be on one field because Heritage High School is way down in Littleton and Mountain Range High School is way up in Westminster. So, you know, there's 40 miles between the two. I'm not going to be able to be on both baseball fields at the same time and make good calls either. Well, I mean, I think I'll make good calls on the field. I'm not at the other one, not so much. So there's a limit to the service that we can provide. That's why there's a whole bunch of different officials. And so the professional ranks have a limited number of officials who can dedicate themselves to being officials and being trained. You know, I mean, there's... The umpires who work in Major League Baseball, that's all they do is they work in Major League Baseball. And they spend lots of time training and studying the rules and being ready for any and every situation that could ever possibly occur. Wow. So high school level officials like me, we put in plenty of time and effort in training, but we're not dedicated to being officials nearly to the level that the pro ranks are. So the Major League Baseball has pro officials and dedicated officials, full-time officials. Major League Baseball has that. The NBA has that. NHL has that. For whatever reason, the NFL does not. I think the NFL, because they only have games on Sunday, they don't have the Major League Baseball, the NHL, the NBA. They play all days of the week, whereas NFL referees usually only on Sundays. Okay, so there's an occasional Thursday night game or a Monday night game. But for the most part, they work other jobs and then are also NFL officials. And, of course, there's talk of changing that and having full-time officials. But, you know, also in Major League Baseball, there's 162 games per season for the teams. And in the NFL, there's 18. So, you know, it's a little bit different. You know, the 17 regular season games and then some preseason games. But still, so they, but even the, the pro leagues will limit access to who can officiate their games. I mean, I think most fans are pretty sure that they're better referees or officials than the officials who are working the game and, you know, they know better. And of course, part of that boils down to, well, you know, referee makes a call in real time and then We as fans watch it on 23 slow-mo replays broken down frame by frame, and we're like, oh, that's clear as day. How could he possibly have missed that? I'm like, well, there might be some timing things involved, and this is not a show to defend officials or something like that, but everybody's pretty sure that they could umpire a game better than the umpire when they think the umpire's made a mistake, or they could referee a game better than the referee when they think the referee's made a mistake. All of those things go into it. But there's limited access to who can actually officiate those games based on the level of experience and what they do. And so you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560 AM or 100.7 FM or possibly the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, that's 720-394-6887. So there's a pool of officials. So the major league, the professional sports leagues have access to them to use them, and so they will use them. Now, as a high school official, sometimes I'll work with somebody who also works college level, and the rules are slightly different for the college level versus the high school level. But if you take an official, you say, oh, well, this is a great official. We need him on all of our high school games. And then the official says, yes, but I'm assigned to work a game between Kentucky and Duke tomorrow because I'm a college official. The high school association is not going to be like, no, you have to come work the high school level. No, the college ranks, they pay better. They're much more organized. All of those things. I mean, if you're going to get paid $5,000 to go work Duke versus Kentucky, you're going to get paid $100 to work a varsity game at Denver North versus Denver West. I mean, you do the math. Which one's better, 5,000 or 1,000? Okay, think really hard and answer. So you can't always have access to the best of the best of the best of the best of the best because they're doing something else. And I'm not going to call myself the best of the best of the best of the best of the best of the best as an estate planning attorney. But I am a busy estate planning attorney, which means I will help as many people as I can as quickly as I can. But there might not always be 100% access to me at the moment that a client may want it. And so I help people as much as I can. Some people are like, oh, we need to know what's going to happen. What happens when we die? And how do our kids interact with your office? And I'm like, okay, well, thanks. First off, let's talk about that. Why would they need to interact with me? Well, you know, to implement the will. I'm like, okay. So I don't handle probate administration. So that would be something that I'd refer to my friends who do probate administration. But your kids are perfectly able to contact me. and I will point them in the right direction. I'll let them know where they can find the forms to go through probate, but I'm not necessarily going to be the person who is going to do that. Now, some clients, some potential clients will be like, well, I want somebody who's going to not only write the will, but do it all the way from start to finish. I'm like, okay, cool. There are attorneys like that out there. Please feel free to find them. Well, why can't you do it? Because it's not part of how I've structured my practice. It's not anything against anybody else. It's just not how I've structured my practice. It's kind of like going to an orthodontist and say, well, hey, I need you to make sure that you can do my major jaw surgery and reconstruct my teeth. And the orthodontist says, so I'm an orthodontist. That's what I do. You don't go to the orthodontist to... Get your teeth cleaned on a regular basis. That's what we have a general dentist for. A general dentist is also, although their degree is a doctor of dental surgery, DDS, they aren't necessarily going to be someone who does something like wisdom teeth surgery. There are people who specialize in doing wisdom teeth surgery. Or my 15-year-old daughter, when she first got her braces that are now off, she had a tooth that was going like sideways in her chin. It wasn't like coming up to replace a baby tooth. It was in the wrong place. And we're like, what is this tooth doing? This tooth is confused. The chin is not where a tooth should be. So the orthodontist happened to notice it on an x-ray. So the orthodontist sent her to an oral surgeon who could go in and kind of cut open her chin and scrape out and break out and remove this tooth that was growing in her chin. And was it the most fun time? No. But did it need to happen? Yes. Are we thankful that there are things like anesthesia and pain medicines? Absolutely. We're also grateful that there is an oral surgeon who holds the same degree as a dentist, same degree as an orthodontist, but is specialized. And so those specialized people do what they do. And sometimes people... The public in general may not understand the difference between preparing an estate plan and implementing or executing an estate plan. And I understand that that's not necessarily common knowledge that everybody's supposed to have. I do my best on my website and And speaking with people to let them know that there's kind of I'm on the front end. That's kind of the back end of things. And I do explain that to people, you know, 10, 15 years after I've talked to them when they come back and they want me to implement everything. And I will have to sometimes I have to remind them of that, that I don't do everything. and that the access is going to be a bit limited there. I had a client just the other day who said, well, you know, what if we have like an emergency? And I'm like, what would be an estate planning emergency? He's like, I don't know. I'm like, are you thinking like if you're in the ICU and you want to change your will right before you die and you only give me a couple of days worth of notice? I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do that for you. I'm too busy. During the pandemic, I got many calls from people who their mom or dad or uncle or somebody was on a COVID floor in the ICU and they wanted me to go in and do their estate plan because I travel to go onto the COVID floor and be able to get their estate plan done. And most of the time, they're like, oh, they're supposed to go on a ventilator in a day or two, so we need it done in the next day or two. And I'm like, I had to explain how I just didn't have the time or the ability because I was booked out. And I wasn't trying to avoid people. I wasn't trying to do terrible things. I was trying to help as many people as I can as quickly as I can. But it doesn't always work the way that we might want it to. So when you're looking at setting up an estate plan, please realize that there are access issues. I'm happy to be accessible to as many people as I can, but we need to consider the access. I haven't been accessible for the last half an hour because I've been talking on the air, but I am off to another appointment to help somebody out at 4 o'clock today. So thanks so much for listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey, and I'll see you next week. Thanks and bye.
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Mobile estate planning with Michael Bailey will return to ATX next Wednesday at 2.30 here on KLZ 560, AM 560, FM 100.7, and online at klzradio.com.
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And we're going to have something really exciting happening here in 2025. So stay tuned on that. The show does broadcast. Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. The show summaries are on the website. You just click on the image of that particular date. It'll bring up a complete written summary of the show as well as the podcast. And then those podcasts can also be heard on Spotify and iTunes as well. Today, the 23rd, there is a lot that is going on. There's two things. I'd love to be in two places at the same time, but I can't. But your choices are this. Down in Pueblo at the Center for American Values, they're having an On Values presentation. I think it is at capacity almost. And it is honoring the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive in the Vietnam War by the North Koreans. It was held for a year. And one of those prisoners that was on that ship, Bob Chica, is presenting down at the Center for American Values. And so you can check everything out at AmericanValueCenter.org. If you plan on attending, please let them know because they are getting close to capacity, I think, on that. And it doesn't cost anything, but just please let them know. And then tonight is our legislative kickoff for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And that will be down at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association, which is at 290 East Spear. And there's parking right next to the building. It's well lit. And so we would love to have you join us. Tickets are $10. We're going to be having a number of our legislators there. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the show comes to you because of our sponsors, Hooters Restaurants. Great, just great lunch specials and great food. And those lunch specials are Monday through Friday. They have happy hour specials as well. And they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And they have been great sponsors of both the Kim Monson Show and America's Veterans Stories for quite some time. And I had mentioned the Center for American Values. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org, so be sure and check that out regarding their event this afternoon. And for our legislative kickoff for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, that website is ColoradoTaxpayer.org. Let's get into some of these headlines here. And the first one that I wanted to talk a little bit about, this was from CNN. And as I was really contemplating on this, the headline is flights canceled for refugees who were slated to travel to the United States. And it says these are refugees that were slated to come here after years long and often cumbersome process. had their flights canceled, according to a State Department memo, to resettlement partners obtained by CNN. Resettlement partners, that would be your NGOs, your non-governmental organizations that have been receiving tax money for this. Now, I served for Gosh, I think six years, a while, I'll just say a while, on the board of Lutheran Family Services back in the 90s. And I joined the board because I had watched their adoption programs. I loved that. And so loved that they were adopting kids out, that they were giving options over abortion. I loved that. And then also helping seniors. And I love that, too. and helping refugees. And with refugees, I had in my mind the refugees back in the 40s and 50s, people that were being persecuted because of their Christian or Jewish faith and that they would come to America they would get a sponsor, and it would be maybe another family member, maybe it was a church. And what morphed into this was then like a Lutheran Family Services, where they were the sponsor to bring people over. Again, I'm thinking of Christian and Jewish refugees. But then the government got involved. And this would have been in the 90s. So this whole immigration thing has not been new. This has been occurring quite often. And so people would claim refugee status to get into the United States. And then there was government money that was going into these non-governmental organizations. And what they were doing instead of getting, and again, government money was being used. Some of the first things they did was get them on government assistance. And I'm thinking, well, gosh, in the old days, you had a couple of months, a wrench, you had a little bit of help and people hit the ground running and they built their lives. So all of this, I was becoming more and more uncomfortable with how this was coming down. And then when I understood the financials, and I think it was, again, this is from memory, out of a $14 million budget at the time, this was just for Lutheran Family Services in Colorado, that like $12 million of it was coming from government money, which then that was going to this whole refugee resettlement. And then I asked the question, I said, well, how are we assimilating? And are we teaching the Christian faith? And they said, well, we can't really do that because government money is not involved with that. So this has been a pipeline for many, many years. So this memo from Donald Trump is suspending these refugee admissions and it, this is CNN again, marks another example of the swift impact his actions are already having. The move stands to affect thousands of refugees who had flights already scheduled. Now, I have to pay for my own flight when I fly someplace. And most Americans do. And our young people, I'm looking at Joe. These young people that are working and paying taxes and having to pay for their cell phones, having to pay for their rent, and yet we're having people that are coming here. Both refugees would be legally, but I think – using the system I guess that's the word I would want to use but then all those that we saw even at the southern border that wanted to come here illegally getting all this free stuff it's not free stuff you can't give free stuff something to somebody for free that you have taken you have to take it from somebody else Joe
SPEAKER 19 :
You're absolutely right. And another thing that this immigration problem has shown me is you really can't sift through the bad actors from the good actors if they're acting well. And I think that is the biggest thing I have a problem with is like I do want to help the refugees. But at the end of the day, I can't even help my grandmother. So why do I need to help them first before my grandmother? My grandmother is my main concern.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And so, yes, we take care of ourselves. We take care of our own. And and I think all of us have a heart for refugees. However, the system has been figured out how to be used, and it's become really a refugee industrial complex. Just look at the numbers from the CNN report. Approximately 10,000 refugees had travel booked. 10,000, which is now canceled. And I think that this is pretty interesting what is happening with the Trump administration on that. So any other comments on that, Joe? But in concept, it's a great idea. But then what happens is people get to a point where they use that system. They make money on it. That was the other thing is in these NGOs, these CEOs of these NGOs are making big bank.
SPEAKER 19 :
I was actually just about to bring up that point. The idea is great. I want to help my fellow people. That's what I care about. But at the end of the day, we got to help the people that are here for a reason. They were born in America.
SPEAKER 04 :
live the american lifestyle that that's the people i want to help first we got to close down everything and make it smaller yeah we have to lower taxes and if people have more money in their pocket then they will make decisions on which charities to give to and if they have a charity that is uh doing things that they don't agree with then they won't give money to them But if an NGO charity is doing things that you may not agree with, but yet they're getting your tax money via the government, that's a whole different thing. That's not a free market. So let's bring back the free market to all of that.
SPEAKER 19 :
I absolutely agree. The free market was the thing that showed in the 60s to work and grow from there. That is what brought us back from the sad times after World War II. Literally, that is the thing that created prosperity for America. So we do need to bring it back.
SPEAKER 04 :
We're going to be getting that back, Joe. Here in Colorado, though, we've got our work cut out for us because this legislature and governor, when I say this legislature, those that are in control. That's not their goals for that, but let's lower property taxes. We have a lot of things to do. I didn't mention the bill of the day yet, and that was House Bill 25-1026. It's the repeal of copayment for Department of Corrections inmate health care. And the prime sponsors on this are both Democrats, Representative Michael Carter, Representative Lorena Garcia. And basically they're saying that if you are in – THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AS AN INMATE THAT IF YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AND YOU DON'T MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE FOR NOT LETTING THEM KNOW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY CO-PAYMENTS. AND THE COLORADO UNION OF TAXPAYERS HAS NO POSITION ON THIS. THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION AND THIS IS WHAT WE SAID. WE SAID, FIRST OF ALL, THE BILL USES THE SAFETY CLAUSE. WE TALK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME. IT IS NOT AN EMERGENCY. that inmates would have to pay copayments and fees. So right off the bat, we don't like that. And so we said this is not an emergency, therefore should be made available for voter review. Second, copays are common. Much of the general public must pay them. Why should inmates receive better treatment than law abiding citizens? No special privileges for inmates that are paid for by taxpayers.
SPEAKER 19 :
You're absolutely right. And I hate that safety clause. I understand the reason it's there is for the changing of times to compensate for that. But at the end of the day, it is such a sneaky way they use to just get around everything. I do not like it.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is, and I'll probably talk about this other bill tomorrow on that. So join us, Colorado Union of Taxpayers. This is the kind of analysis and conversation that you can have, and you'll know what's going on. Let me just give you a quick rundown on the number of bills that have been... Now we're at 179 bills that have been introduced here in Colorado. So you want to know what's going on. Next headline that I wanted to hit here. And again, this is so important. This is from Fox News. The State Department blocks pride BLM flags from embassies and outposts with a one flag policy. This is also, I think, fantastic because the flag that you fly over your business or your embassy shows who your allegiance is to, and the allegiance to the United States of America and for all that it stands. The transgender flag or the, what is it, the pride flag, the pride flag, All that is celebrating carnal instincts. It's not thinking about the things that we can do with our brains, the creativity and innovation. All it is celebrating is, first of all, carnal instincts and acts that are against nature's law.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely right. And I can get behind two flags, the state flag, like Colorado state flag, and the American flag. Those are the two main ones because that is our government. As soon as you're showing off these other flags, you're right. It shows an allegiance and then you got a question.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. The Colorado flag, people like that. Right now, I'm not sure I can get behind it because of what's happening down at the Statehouse, but this is interesting. They did have two notable exceptions, the prisoner of war missing an action flag and the wrongful detainees flag. And so those are the only exceptions to that. But I love the fact that we're going to be focusing on Old Glory and all that she stands for.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. And, you know, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. There's a reason those words were used for the Pledge of Allegiance. It is an important piece. We're supposed to be united and not broken up like we are today.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
Why, thank you. I see good things, but we've got to keep this battle up.
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SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. I am pleased to have on the line with me North Carolina realtor, and that is Lee Brown. And we wanted to get an update on what is happening in North Carolina with the Los Angeles fires. I think in a way, North Carolina... And the disaster in Lahaina has moved to the second page of many people's memories, and we cannot let that happen. I think they're all connected. Lee Brown, welcome to the show. Well, good morning, Kim. It's a pleasure to be back with you again. Well, you're working hard. Give us an update. What's going on in your life?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, President Trump, his effect is already in action. Vice President Vance was in North Carolina yesterday. President will be here Friday to see what's going on in North Carolina. So we're very grateful that He is putting the spotlight back on the failures here that have really impacted people's lives. And what we're dealing with right now is of course, it is super cold. It's one of our coldest winters in a long time. And we've still got people that are caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to housing. However, the proof of the Trump effect is that FEMA finally started providing some furnished apartments yesterday after four months and change of the storm. They're finally getting people some housing that can extend a little longer. They've extended those that are on hotel vouchers. So there's finally a sense of hope, which I think is really positive. And a friend asked me yesterday why I think that's happening. And I said, well, I said, I don't think the FEMA employees want to lose their jobs because they're going to see the pathway here is either do things right or you're going to lose your cushy little federal job. And the work here is That's step one is getting people into warm housing. And, Kim, it's just astonishing to me that we're a first world country. This is the United States of America. And four months later, we're still trying to get people into housing. That's not even talking about the rebuild and the debris piles up and what we're going to do about the FEMA overreach. And I've got a new problem I'm dealing with with the EPA that I haven't made a video about yet because there's only so many hours in the day. But Regardless, we're all just grateful for steps in the right direction, and we're grateful for the attention that people are still paying to this forgotten region.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and Lee, I've talked with a number of people about these different disasters. And one of the things they said is that we shouldn't look to the government for help on this. And I guess that's why you put together Patriot Relief Fund. But yet in disasters on the short term, we probably should. Or what do you say to that when people say that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we're paying for it. I've been told my whole life as a very successful realtor, I pay a lot in taxes. As I think almost anybody is aware, I'm an independent contractor. That means I pay more than the average W-2 employee. And in America, it's frustrating, but I'm grateful for the opportunity I have. That means that when I see the moment occur where my tax dollars have been earmarked, my tax dollars said they were going to take care of crisis, of borders, of National safety. That's where I expect my dollars to go. Now, I totally agree that the community takes care of itself better. The churches are the center of community and used to be what they used to be the center. Now they're coming back into that spot. Praise God. You've got. an opportunity to do things the right way. But why am I paying for it if I have to do it as well? So do I get a refund on my taxes? That's what I'd like to have. I've been told my dollars pay for infrastructure and for roads and bridges. But on Friday, well, that's not even a week ago, I was in the mountains doing some work and couldn't get to this one spot that I was trying to survey because the roads are still out. So, yeah, as a taxpayer, I'm going to demand that the government do the job they're supposed to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and we've seen these reports of billions of dollars that have gone to Ukraine. And then we hear the stories that there was $750 of relief that was offered to our citizens. Was that true?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it was kind of offered because you had to have receipts to get the 750. So the reality of the 750, which was a slap in the face when Vice President Harris said, we're going to give you $750. Here are some of the stipulations. You had to have proof that your power was out. This was in a region where we had. entire systems down, the poles gone, the landslides had taken out the actual infrastructure for power at the time, but they're supposed to have a receipt that their power's out, and then you had to have receipts of what you purchased with the 750. So there were a lot of people who said, forget this, and they didn't even mess with it because They didn't have all of that. And remember, too, these were all online forms. So if you had the receipt and if you had proof of your power being out, you also had to be the one lucky enough to have cell service or Internet service or a phone or a computer. And we had so many people whose lives were washed away. They didn't have any of that. So the government set it up to fail. But I will say this, that the people of North Carolina, while we have been pretty irritated about the attention that California has gotten. We did see that at least there is some fair treatment because they offered the California people $770. So they there's doing the same thing there. We, they say they're going to help. They say they're going to swoop in and then they make it a pittance while foreign powers get a blank check. Although I was personally delighted that president Trump did not allow Zelensky to come to the inaugural weekend. And that that bank account has finally closed. I just wish we could claw back all those dollars because as a as a hardworking business owner myself, I despise how our elected officials on both sides of the aisle have so carelessly treated our hard earned dollars.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's a really important. And then I really, this is, we're talking about a disaster here and now, things that need to be done. But ultimately, I'd really like to see taxes, property taxes, all of those things come down so that people have more money in their pockets, that they make the decisions on where they're going to help with charities and businesses. Because and when that happens, I think everything will become much more efficient. But you've seen really with a snap of the fingers, once Donald Trump was inaugurated, things change. Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we saw the director of FEMA. She resigned right quick. And all of us said good riddance to bad rubbish. And she was out. The interim director is a former special ops. He's got family in Western North Carolina. And I am praying that I can get enough people to tell him to call me that I can share with him what I see as opportunities for improvement. Because as somebody who's been down a lot of political and real estate pathways, I don't think it's fair to just complain. It is important to bring solutions forward. So I'm hoping to talk to him, but I'm very grateful that we have him. New leadership in a lot of different areas that seems to have a focus on action. I think if there's anything we've all seen since Monday, it is nonstop action.
SPEAKER 04 :
So give us a boots on the ground. You said that were people still living in tents in this cold or were people in campers? What's been that progression on people that have lost everything?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there are still people in tents. And to be fair, some of the people that are in tents were in – Let's just say they were tent-style living before the storm. So not everybody that's in a tent is a family of four that lost their home. I'll put it that way. It doesn't mean they don't deserve services, but there's a different kind of services needed. Now, we still have people in their cars, and the people that are living in cars are for myriad reasons, one of which is that the FEMA hotel vouchers ran out on January 14th, And then FEMA announced on Twitter, excuse me, X, that they were extending them, but they didn't tell the hotels or the recipients. So they got booted even while FEMA's over here bragging that they'd extended the vouchers. So we had a breakdown in communication. We're still getting those families into safe warm housing. And the camper situation, there are hundreds of people in campers, and that's better than a tent. It's better than living in your car. But the challenge of the campers is, is that a lot of the wonderful people who donated them donated them from areas where they were not winterized. So they are very cold. They're very drafty. The pipes freeze in them because it's single-digit temps in the mountains. And then you have the situation where they use up so much propane. And that's why if you're online, you see lines for propane miles long. That's the people in campers that are just trying to – Keep it warm because those things will suck up some propane. My goodness. So there's these are all the very temporary solutions. And again, I think people are very grateful for the outpouring for the for anything. They're grateful that it's better. But those are not long term answers. So my organization right now is pivoting into the longer term answers of repair and restoration so people can go home.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, and that is Patriot Relief Fund, correct? And that is PatriotReliefFund.com.
SPEAKER 09 :
And it's the proof that American people, like you already said, Kim, they love to give and help out. And historically, Americans give at a higher rate than other countries. countries and other societies. So if the people have their tax dollars returned to them, they're not wasteful. They're going to take care of their communities and do good things. We've seen that forever. And I'm so grateful for the people all over the country who've donated because when they ask us what we're doing with their dollars, I can send them photos. I had a trailer house yesterday that we got the siding fixed on. The siding had peeled off during the storm and this Young family was staying there because that's their home. But the dollars that we were donated were able to take care of their side because they didn't have insurance. They didn't have excess money, but they didn't want to leave. And so it's important that we pour into our neighbors where they are with what they want. They didn't want to move to a city and live in a. apartment somewhere. They wanted to stay in their single wide, in their community, and that's what we made happen. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then the other thing is, I think that people need to realize is that people are rebuilding their homes, but there's all these businesses and jobs that were lost, right? What's that look like, Leigh?
SPEAKER 09 :
So we had last week the North Carolina bankers have their annual economic forecast forum. And this is where a lot of different businesses and trade associations and bankers come together to look at the picture in North Carolina. And before Helene, we had less than 100 jobless claims in the western North Carolina area. As of right now, we have over 4,000. That's how extensive the jobless claims are. And as you know, that's not all of the unemployed people. That's the ones who filed for unemployment. There's a lot of people with a high level of personal pride that will not lean on available resources unless they pretty much are under heavy duress. And that's happened because Not only did our businesses flood out, we had so many of our businesses that went underwater, they've got to rebuild. Well, their employees don't necessarily get paid during the rebuild. And then you have the service industries that, well, if you were doing lawn care and you were cleaning houses, you've lost a lot of your houses where you did the lawn care and the cleaning. That's what I worry about, too, in California when you see these entire city blocks burned to dust. You've got not just the celebrities that are on TV getting some TV time. The people who work for those people, they're going to have to relocate because it'll be a long time before those jobs ever return. And so there's just these cascading effects. But by the same token, our contractors, our well companies, our roofing companies, they are working beyond capacity right now. So we are seeing the signs of life that have to happen for the area to come back. But I just wish people would remember it's not new dollars being created when somebody has to spend money to fix their flooded out living room. That's dollars that they could have spent on something else, but now it's having to be redirected. So it's not new dollars. We're just going to have to reallocate and keep things going. And we are asking people, if you can, to buy your birthday gifts and your anniversary gifts from small businesses out of the mountains. A lot of them have Etsy shops, and they've got online presences online. because they need the patronage to get back up and running again.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I love that. And patriotrelieffund.com is where you can find all the great work that Lee Brown is doing. We're going to go to break, and then I want to talk with her about her take on Donald Trump regarding making housing more affordable. And she's a very successful realtor in North Carolina. She's doing amazing work to help the people of North Carolina as well. And these are such important discussions. They happen because of our sponsors for everything mortgages. Reach out to Lorne Levy. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And this year, make sure that you have in your repertoire of giving the USMC Memorial Foundation. It is so important. that we honor and remember those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. And the official Marine Memorial is right here in Colorado. And be sure and help them with that remodel and that facelift. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Lee Brown is on the line with me. She is a very successful realtor in North Carolina. She's been very active locally, the state level, national level. regarding property rights home ownership and with the disaster in north carolina she has founded patriot relief fund which would be another great charity to give money to to help the people of north carolina and that is patriot relief fund god is it orger.com let me make sure.com Okay, Lee Brown, changing gears a little bit. Trump, one of the things he has said to all of his cabinet members, his administration, is we need to bring the cost of living down for Americans, and in particular in housing. And he had a memorandum to all of his heads of executive departments and agencies. What do you think about this memorandum? What is your ear to the ground telling you about this?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it doesn't actually do anything, but that's OK, because this executive order, being one of the very first ones that the president signed, keeps housing at the forefront, which has to be a conversation because we've got this generation coming behind us, Kim, and a lot of them are really wishing they had a way into homeownership, but they feel very, feel a little hopeless about it. And so I think it's going to give a lot of young people hope that homeownership is in their future. I will say that in the executive order, there's mention of how there should be reform in zoning and regulations at the local level. That's never going to happen from the federal level. So I just want all people to stay realistic about what is and isn't possible from the top. But there is potential that since the government is so Well, I hate to say ruled, but we're pretty much ruled by a bunch of bureaucrats right now. President Trump has promised to bring those agencies to heel, and if we can get the EPA and FEMA and these other agencies that add unnecessary rules to us, that will actually bring the cost of housing down, and it's one of those effects that we should all be hopeful for. The Waters of the U.S. Act, which has really harmed Colorado, and I think a lot of your listeners who are in the building and developing space know this, If we can get the waters of the U.S. straightened out where the feds don't have control over every single body of water, that will help us as well. I do think the American people are very responsible stewards. We have shown this in the history of our country. We don't destroy our natural lands. We utilize it well. And if we can stop the overreach of government, it will bring the cost of housing down. So I'm hopeful. I'll also say that his very strong actions on the illegal immigrant crisis that have been so well pointed right out of the gate. I love Tom Holman. What a great pick he is. If we take care of some of the illegals and get a couple million of these folks out of the country that don't belong here, that's also going to bring the cost of housing down because they're part of the demand crisis.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. You don't have 11 to 15 million people come into a country and not create more demand for housing or water, electricity, all of those things. And so you reduce demand and that should bring the price down as well. We've got a lot of work to do out here in Colorado. I'm so excited. I've talked to so many people. out there and in fact i did just want to give a shout out one of our listeners uh yvonne said that we've got a listener that's uh listening in from baja california and mexico today so that's pretty cool so i want to give a shout out to theresa for listening in on that but colorado is uh used to be in the at one of the leaders in economic growth in the country And we are really being governed by radical activists that have taken over the legislature and the governor's office here. And we've moved down to 41st. in the nation in economic growth. And that's because of all of these policies. So I'm so excited when I talk to my friends all over the country regarding the new things that's happening at the federal level. But we here in Colorado have to roll up our sleeves. We've got to become involved at the local, county, and state level because the radical activists did not go to sleep. They did not go home. They are just doubling down, I think, at the state, local, and county level.
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Oh, I would absolutely agree. And you don't have to look any further than the Minneapolis school board. I don't know if you saw the expose on one of their school board members that came out yesterday. This woman hates the country. She hates the American flag, the American dream. And she got elected to a school board. And that might feel in Colorado like, well, that's over in Minnesota. But we all know that those are warning shots because it can happen anywhere. When people aren't engaged and they're not voting very, very loudly during the primary season, but in school boards and in county commissions and city councils, that's where smart conservatives and actually I consider myself a restorationist. I want the country restored. I want to see the Constitution treated like the beautiful. I mean, what a beautiful document and wonderful set of ideas that has given us so much over these years. Let's bring that back. And it starts with how our local schools are handled. It starts with our county commissions and how we make decisions, our city councils, because those are the people that are going to either fight the state or go up to the state. And I want my local officials to take care of what the local constituents want, which it will eventually get up to D.C. We're not there yet, but we're making progress. And the people have spoken with a mandate to President Trump, and I do hope every engaged listener realizes that even if you're in what's considered a blue area, that area can change. And I'll just say for the purposes of hopefulness, the city of Asheville, North Carolina, which is where the Biltmore House is, beautiful city, it's right in the heart of the devastation of Helene. We've been calling it a blueberry in the tomato soup. It is very blue, very progressive. They passed their reparations. memorandum in the city that even the black residents didn't want because it was ridiculous but that's where antifa is headquartered and not many people know that antifa's headquarters were in western north carolina Well, after the storm and with this disastrous government response, you've got that little blue city looking like the next set of elections are going to go fairly purple. And I will take purple over blue. That's a step in the right direction. So don't give up hope. Just remember that common sense does prevail, especially when we educate each other and we stay on point and stay focused and don't get distracted by somebody else's issues.
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Oh, and Lee Brown, thank you. Really appreciate it. That's patriotrelieffund.com. You're going to love the quote for the end of the show from Samuel Adams. He said this, it does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men. I bet you love that, yes?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yes. I love that. I didn't know that one, Kim. I'm stealing that.
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That's awesome. Thanks so much. We'll talk again soon and keep up the amazing work. And my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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indeed let's have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us and listening you're each treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history thank you to the team that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa all the people here at crawford broadcasting uh i so appreciate you joe
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Well, thank you, Kim. I appreciate you and what you do every day.
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Well, thank you. And in the first hour, we were talking about refugees. And you had commented on, first of all, you wanted to help your grandmother. And this came in. It was really nice to hear Joe, who is a young fellow, say that he wanted to take care of his grandmother. Some adults who are older don't even think that way. Blessings to Joe.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, why, thank you. No, my grandmother has been a huge part of my life, and I will always make sure she's taken care of, just like I would take care of my parents, just like I would take care of anybody. A radio show host?
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For America. How's that? Well, and guests. Yeah, and guests. And that voice that you hear is Karen Levine. You know her. She is a great sponsor of the show. She's a REMAX Alliance realtor and award-winning, and it's great to have you here. Thank you. It's great to be here. Two of my favorite people, and that other favorite person is Lorne Levy. He's in everything mortgages in all 49 states, except I guess we have 50 states, just not New York, so 49.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Yeah. So great to have you here. We're going to talk about Trump and what he's doing and what you're seeing in the real estate and the mortgage market. But let's jump into some of the things that we we look at. As you know, let's see. Our Web site is Kim Monson dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And you can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. I am struggling a little bit staying on top of those, my friends. But we're working on it. Text line is 720-605-0647. And the show comes to you Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m. The first hour is rebroadcast in the afternoon, 1 to 2. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And this is on all KLZ 560 platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. the KLZ website and the KLZ app. You can find show summaries and podcasts at my website. Just click on the image of each day and that'll bring all that up. And then you can also listen on the streaming services such as iTunes and Spotify. We look at these issues. We're searching for truth and clarity by looking at them through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something is a good idea. You should not have to force anything. people to do it. And let's get over here to our word of the day. I like this word. I guess it kind of has two meanings. I love the first one. And that is audacious, which is daring, spirited, adventurous. And audacious is spelled A-U-D-A-C-I-O-U-S. And I think we're moving into an audacious time for America. It's exciting, Karen Levine.
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It is exciting. What are we? Three days, four days, four days, four days in. And there's this feeling of hopefulness and people are excited. And I think we're actually feeling safer about feeling proud of the decision the majority of the Americans made.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. We talked about that yesterday. I'd done the comparison. Donald Trump got around 77 million votes this election, which was, I think, two million more than he got in 2020. And Kamala Harris, so he was 77 million. She was 75 million-ish, I think. But Joe Biden got 81 million. And I'm just wondering where the heck was that other 6 million? What happened to those 6 million Joe Biden voters? We're going to continue to have that discussion. I think that's pretty interesting. What do you think, Lorne Levy, day four here?
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, I agree with Karen. I think people are excited to see what's coming. In my world, not a lot has changed, which is okay. That's how things work because they get anticipated kind of. Yeah. But I can just tell from talking to people that they feel different.
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Yeah, I think so, too. I still feel here in Colorado we have so much work to do. We're at the tip of the spear. But I feel kind of a new rolling up our sleeves and going to work on all this. So let's get through some of these other things. Samuel Adams is our quote of the day. He was born in 1722, died in 1803. He was an American statesman. He was one of our founding fathers. and a leader in the movement that became the American Revolution. I do think that we are in the third founding of our country, and we are in a historic time. But he said this, he said, it is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice, for they cannot live in any country where virtue and knowledge prevail. And I think, Karen, I'll go to you first. I think that we as Americans have gotten distracted, lazy on... the focus of where we needed to be, and Donald Trump has been pretty focused on what he's going to make happen, and that is to make America or the American idea great again. Great again.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can you do me a favor and just repeat? That quote, because there was a piece in there that caused me to lighten up. So I just want to quote it correctly.
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Okay. It is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice. Yes, that part. Okay.
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Ignorance and vice.
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Okay.
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That is exactly what we've been reduced to.
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Yes.
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And we've been reduced to ignorance through having media that lies to us. And so the media that tells us certain things to make us believe that is the reality. And so we become ignorant. And thank goodness for shows like yours, Kim, where hopefully you are unveiling truth. So that piece. And we become, the vice is we become divisive. And I think the comment Joe made in the first hour, which was, and you guys talked about the flag, We have all the flags, and flags cause divisiveness. Even though they all may have important parts in people's lives, when you hang them all, then you're not united.
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Good point. And so with this directive by Donald Trump and all embassies and government buildings that we will be flying the American flag, I think that's great. So good point. And any comments on that, Lauren, at all? no i don't it's too early right now okay well i'll give you a pass on that then our bill of the day and we talked about that in the first hour and this is uh again um if i could be in two places at the same time it would be great because there's two great events that are occurring today first of all down in pueblo at the center for american values they're having an on values presentation And the featured speaker is Bob Chica, who was a crewman on the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive during the Vietnam War by the North Koreans and held for over a year. And so they have the story of the USS Pueblo that they're highlighting at the center, as well as this great event. If you want to attend, they're getting close to capacity. It doesn't cost anything, but let them know that you're coming. That website is americanvaluecenter.org, americanvaluecenter.org. The other thing that is occurring, why I can't be down in Pueblo, is the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is having their legislative kickoff. tonight and that will be at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association and we will be honoring our our taxpayer protectors and I do want to give them a shout out again I did this in the first hour but it's difficult down at the state house and these folks have done a really great job our 2024 Colorado Senate taxpayer warriors our state senator Kevin Van Winkle he is now accounting commissioner in Douglas County Senator Mark Baisley and Senator Rod Pelton. And then over on the House side, we have a Colorado taxpayer champion, Stephanie Luck. Good for her. And then two great taxpayer guardians, that is Representatives Kindergraf and Scott Bottoms. And then our taxpayer warriors that we are pleased to announce are Representative Ron Weinberg, Representative Brandi Bradley, and Representative Don Wilson. So we will be presenting them with these awards tonight. Our keynote speakers are Senate Assistant Minority Leader Cleve Simpson and House Minority Leader Rose Pugliese. Tickets are only 10 bucks. We'd love to have you join us and then also become a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. It is only $25 and you'll receive our hours and hours of analysis on many of these bills that are being presented And the things that we try to take a position on are things regarding taxes, property rights, school choice, and taper, protecting Colorado's taxpayers' bill of rights. And the team I work with on the board is Steve Dorman, Greg Golanski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen. Rigby Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, and Corey Onizorg. And when you see these folks, say thank you. And you can get all that information at coloradotaxpayer.org. This show happens because of all of your support and these great sponsors. Another great sponsor is Roger Mangan, and he may be able to help you save some money. You won't know unless you give them a call, make a complimentary appointment to see if you bundle your insurance together. That might happen. And so give them a call at the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. In studio with me is Karen Levine. She is an award-winning writer. realtor with Remax Alliance, and Lauren Levy, who does everything mortgages in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. So first thing, Karen Levine, we've talked about you helping people get into homes. In fact, I think last week you said you had a couple that got into a new starter home that you were able to help. But I have people close to me that you were able to help them navigate selling and buying a home. And I've always appreciated you, but I didn't quite understand this whole group of experts that you have that are needed to make this transaction happen. Now, I do have a great listener. I have very smart listeners who said that he was able to buy and sell his home on his own, and that can happen. But a lot of people don't take the time or have the time. the acumen to do that. And so that's why what you do is pretty darn impressive.
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Well, thank you very much. I think that the beauty of a free market is that if you have the bandwidth and feel like you have the knowledge to do the transaction yourself, I give you kudos. There's a lot of obstacles. We have identified 86 points of turbulence that can occur in a real estate transaction. And I think what people forget is it's the largest typically financial transaction that they make in their lives and that it occurs about every 10 to 15 years. And in my experience of over 35, I think somebody said it's 37 now, years of experience.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's amazing because you're only 39. I know. How did that happen? I was really young when I started.
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I think what I've seen happen is that the market is, changes I I keep checking out that the market changes not only on an annual basis but it can change quarterly monthly weekly and so my ears to the ground and knows what's happening in the marketplace and then I have great partners like Lauren who understands the mortgage side and as you said a lot of other resources like painters and carpet flooring people and electricians and plumbers. And those resources come in handy when you need things done in a timely fashion to get a transaction closed successfully.
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And you had a big year last year.
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Thank you to all the listeners and all the people that supported my business. It was quite surprising that, yes, I ended up having an exceptionally good year. You were number one in your office. I was. As a single agent.
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That's pretty awesome.
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I think what was exciting is I had been a part of a team, as many of the listeners know, and I left that team August 1. And so the transactions, the volume that I did from January 1 to August, there was a big chunk taken out of those being part of a team. But the volume counted. And then I had, you know, from August to December to finish up the year. So it was a nice accomplishment. But as I have noted, when you do something as long as I've done it, you eventually can get all the awards. Yeah.
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I don't think so. I don't think so. So that's really awesome. And Lauren Levy, what do you think about the Trump administration? You said over in the interest rate side, you don't see a lot going on on that right now, right?
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No, because you and I talk about all the time the stock market's been doing well, and it has been for a while, right? And it usually leads up to the news. And so we watch so closely the mortgage bond market and the treasury market. And treasuries have pulled back a little bit, which has been nice. They were darn near shooting up to 480 on a 10-year pretty close, and now they're like 463. So they've pulled back a little bit, which is always helpful. But it's going to be a bit before we see. I talk to people all day long and everyone's got a different opinion as to whether or not rates will come back down and how far down and will they come down at all. And everybody's got their own thing. But it's I did. I understand what Trump is trying to do as far as housing. And I totally get that. And that's that's great. Hopefully we'll lead to more inventory.
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So yes, so the realtor.com had in your referencing this piece. And before we get into that, Joe, I wanted to, you and I both during break realized this, that when Lee Brown was talking about North Carolina, and having to rebuild. Certainly that is creating demand there. But what she was describing, and Susan Kochevar texted me, that there couldn't be a better example of the broken window theory is false. Lots of stuff got broken in North Carolina, and it's not spurring economic growth. They're just having to rebuild. So, she said, it blows a hole in the theory about war creating a good economy. North Carolina's devastation is similar to war. So, it's a rebuilding. It's not a creation. And that was the difference between creating... creating wealth and then just having to replace wealth. And that broken window theory is something that I've gone over, Karen, with the young guys as we've gone through the book, Economics in One Easy Lesson, with producer Joe and producer Luke. And Henry Haslett has explained that. So I did want to just make sure that we talked about that. So thank you on that, Susan Kochavar. So let's get over here to housing. Trump, and this was from Realtor.com, He said he wants to make housing more affordable. What's your take on this? Have you been able to talk with a lot of folks about this yet, Karen Levine?
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Well, not really, Kim, because you sent it yesterday. And I was occupied, you know, on Wednesdays. I have a commitment from 830 to 245. But with that said, I read part of the article, and I think – What President Trump is alluding to is a lot of different aspects of housing. And I think Lee Brown sort of touched on that a bit in the last hour, which is, first of all, we need to back off on policy. and we need to get regulation reduced and in doing that the cost of housing is going to go down we also need to get people back to work granted unemployment is at the lowest it has been for decades if And with that said, we don't have workers to help bring costs down because projects are having to wait. So we're not getting enough product out of the ground. And then we saw government subsidies going towards rental housing. which then spurred a thought in my head about Colorado and Denver City and County. And that mayor's focus was getting people, homeless people, into housing, which took housing out of taxpayers' ability to rent. Even though we've built plenty of rental properties in Colorado in the Front Range, we haven't built ownership units yet. Here in Colorado, we've used the excuse of the construction defect legislation that has kept condominiums coming out of the ground because of the cost of insurance, etc.
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Prevented them from coming out of the ground.
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Yeah, prevented them from coming out of the ground. And there is a sentiment, I think, at... our state house that that's got to get turned around this year. So I think that both sides of the aisle. Do you think I believe? Yes. And that's what we heard when we were doing candidate interviews. We the Realtor Association. So I think it's a lot of different levels. But the fact that he understands and being a developer himself, he understands that if you get the cost of housing down, you do put more dollars to into taxpayers pockets, which means that generates a better, stronger economy.
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Well, and ways that I think we can reduce the cost of housing, Lorne, is just as Karen said, is to reduce rules, regulations. These zoning regulations have made it more difficult. They prevented housing from being built. We've got to get property taxes down. We've just seen such a skyrocket on that. And that's really pinched people here in Colorado. So we've got work to do here in Colorado, Lorne.
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Yeah, and there's multiple components. I read that article you sent, and in my world, which I look at on the mortgage, I read it and I see something about mortgage rates and such, and there's not much that a government can do to affect mortgage rates. It's a market, and we talk about that. We touched on the Marshall Fire, right, when all those homes burned down in the Broomfield area. Those people went to rebuild, but they changed the regulations, and they had to use fire retardant stuff. Well, insurance companies only build back the house to the way it was. They don't rebuild you a better home. They rebuild you what was there when it burned down. So if you change the regulations and it costs $100,000 more, those people don't have insurance. So the regulation is really important as far as new homes and rebuilding homes. Like in California with these ones that have burned down, if they change the rules... But it doesn't, I guess my point is when I bought a house in 2001, I had an eight and a quarter rate, much higher than we have today. Right. But that townhome at the time cost $210,000. That same townhome today is $525,000 when I look on Zillow.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Well, you slap today's rate on that, and that payment is more than double what I paid in 2001. So it's not so much that rates are high. That's a component of it. But the prices are so much higher compared to just, you know, that's only 23 years ago. So it's home to home. The payment's double.
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But over 23 years, with this public policy that is limited, building new homes, then this is what you have. You bring more people in, and you have more demand, and you contract the supply. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that that's going to occur.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that's why on that article you sent out, the directive or the targeting is the cost of building the home and trying to reduce the regulation and the red tape and everything. versus trying to find a way to get rates down.
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Go ahead. No, I was just going to say, when you require new construction to install EV chargers in every garage and I choose not to have an electric vehicle, That's a cost added to the house I want to purchase that is not something I want. And we have been built on an economy of choice and with regulation choice has been taken away from us and the cost has gone up.
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Right, and Colorado's at the forefront of a lot of things that are occurring. Okay, let's see. Before I, I don't think I'll bite off on this question too, because I don't want to just blindside. Actually, I like to blindside Lauren all the time. It seems like I do that.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. They've been great sponsors. We're beginning our seventh year of solo broadcasting. Both of these sponsors that are in studio with me have been with me, well, Karen, before day one, and Lauren, just about from day one of these seven years, and I so thank you for that. So you watch the Federal Reserve, Lauren Levy, and I didn't know this, and I think you didn't know this, that there was a strategic plan that the Federal Reserve had for diversity, equity, and inclusion, DEI. Or as our listener, she actually calls it a diversity, inclusion, and equity, which is DI. Okay. But I had no idea that they would be focusing on that because I thought that monetary policy and inflation was their focus.
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Yeah, I agree with you. And, you know, we just said off the air that at the end of the day, they have their independent, you know, from politics, supposedly. Right. But and they have their dual mandate, but they're also a government agency paid with taxpayer dollars. And we're coming off four years of the Biden administration where DEI was seemingly everywhere. So I don't know how they could avoid it if they're being told by the government, this is what you're going to do as a government agency. I would like to think that the Fed is all about economists, number crunchers, and I would think that they would want to hire the smartest and perfect person for the job. What a novel idea. And so we'll see going forward now with Trump in place if they unwind a lot of this stuff. Like a lot of companies are unwinding their DEI stuff. Right. But the government can say if you receive federal funds or grants or anything, this is how you're going to do it. Yeah. And they kind of get forced. So we'll see if some of this like Trump's trying to get all the DEI people that have that on their business card. Basically terminated, right? And fired. And so we'll see what happens at the Fed. I would like to think that nobody wants to be told who they have to hire just by DEI. Most people would want to hire the ideal candidate. But if you're being told you can't.
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Well, but then what happens is we have this race to mediocrity or even more so race to the bottom. And as we're looking back over our shoulder now at so many of these bureaucrats that were putting in such bad policy for our country. And the veil has really come off on these DEI hires, I think.
SPEAKER 14 :
I agree. I was listening to, I've told you guys before, you know, you can pick out what channel you watch. Most of the businesses I watch, I watch on mute because I just want the numbers at the bottom of the screen. But they had a guy on the other day, it's been a little while, his whole purpose in life is to go to boards of companies and show them how DEI doesn't work. And he's an activist, so he will kind of bring his people with him. And it's the opposite of what we're used to seeing where, before is if you didn't have DEI then they'll protest in front of Chick-fil-A or they'll protest in front of he's the opposite he brings the people and if you don't get rid of DEI Then us and our people will protest. So it's pretty cool. And he's like, we're killing it. Like big companies are dropping their DEI stuff. And you can read about them, like major companies now. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And again, to hire somebody because of a descriptor, something outward versus they're striving for excellence. Qualifications. Yeah, qualifications. How can they bring value to the organization? And you're not doing anybody any favors by putting in these DEI hires. And, of course, Karen, I think that we've seen here in America that these DEI hires have just really not had, many of them have not had the best interest of people in mind. It's really more of an agenda. And we've seen the effects of that. But it looks like we're coming out of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
i i would agree i think um i we are i i believe those of us here in studio ex with the exception of joe we are of the generation that you worked hard and you proved your value and well and joe is many in his generation are doing that yes we're saying that right we're seeing that coming back but i think what happened and mediocrity. I think you made that comment about mediocrity. What happens is, is if you're basing it on a DEI strategy, you're not looking for the brightest and the best candidate for the position that you have in an organization, which should then gum down the productivity and the profitability of your company.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And these companies were under a lot of pressure.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And so, you know, especially when you worry about protests and all this other stuff and it hurts your bottom line and sometimes you just give in to make it go away. That's I mean, you're seeing a ton of unwinding already just since the election. Yeah. Big companies like saying you guys are coming back to work or you're not working here anymore. Like some of this at home stuff because they want to be able to see what you're doing. You know, we're paying you all this money. We want to see where what you're doing and we want camaraderie and teamwork and we need you back in the office. And there's big companies that I've read about lately. saying enough's enough, get in here.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the, and we've talked about it on the show. What that is unveiling is that there are people that have moved and well, and this is on the federal level that people have moved out of the Metro area where they had their job. And some of these different different Metro areas have a pay bump. Uh, if you're a federal employee, if you're in some of these more expensive areas, which I'm not sure. I don't think that's a great idea. But anyway, but then these people have moved out of the area where they are getting that pay bump, implying they're living there, moving to a more affordable area, keeping that pay bump. I was talking to a young person yesterday. That's actually dishonest, Lauren.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that's fraud.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is, isn't it?
SPEAKER 14 :
To the company.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and to the government. I was going to say, to me, the taxpayer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so this is going to be real interesting to see what happens with all this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that's what I find exciting. It's fun to read about this. I'm calling it an unwinding of stuff. People will take stuff for free if you give it to them. And then you start taking it away and see how everybody reacts.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so with this directive of back to work for federal workers, that's going to be super interesting. Productivity, do you think productivity was thwarted with people working from home?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know. It becomes an individual thing, right? I think probably at some level, I'm sure there's people that are just good people that put in their time and realize they're getting a wage to do something. But I'm sure there's other people. There's people that can do their job from anywhere. So maybe if they can combine a vacation and work on their computer on the beach and still get the same amount of work done. But I think what you lose is the teamwork aspect of things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And there's only so much you can do on Zoom. Right. You know, and, you know, building a whole organization and you're there in the fight with your coworkers, you know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think a lot of that weakens companies, I think, if you don't have some of that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And so, Kieran, what's your experience? What do you think about this getting people back into the office? I know a lot of people like the flexibility of home and office. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think it's a balance question, which it's a balance question on a lot of different levels throughout society, which is, as Lauren said, I have friends that work incredibly diligently from home. But I also have others that I'm like, they are making quite a wage. And I saw them out walking their dog, then at the grocery store, then... And I'm thinking... wow, I don't think that employer is getting what they're paying for. So they've worked the system. And as Lauren said, if you can get something for free or you can get your job done or perceived done in less time and not have accountability, I'm sure it has hurt productivity. I remember the discussion we were having with mayoral candidates for Denver, and it was very important for the candidate we were supporting, which was kelly broff to get the city and county workers of denver back into the office because as lauren said they couldn't collaborate on how to get permits out the door to get construction done well do you think that has caused problems in us getting houses built you think hello i would like to see the numbers on the amount of jigglers sold in the last several years compared to previous if you know what a jiggler is i don't say what is that
SPEAKER 14 :
man you guys I know a jiggler and I have a friend that works for the FBI and I'm not sure if they were the ones that came up with it or not but it's primary use if you're in the FBI is when you have a crime and you confiscate someone's computer and you finally crack it to open it with the code and whatever so you can see what a criminal's been looking at a jiggler makes it so it doesn't fall asleep when they go home it makes the computer think you're working so the FBI agent can go home and go to sleep and come back and not have to crack it again OK. You know, so it doesn't go to bed. So I have friends that work from home and it's just a little plug in into the HDMI port. You can order on Amazon for like 15 bucks.
SPEAKER 20 :
OK.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it tricks your computer to think you're still working.
SPEAKER 20 :
OK.
SPEAKER 14 :
So if so, a lot of my wife used to have a job where on the upper right hand corner of her laptop was a traffic light, red, green, yellow. So if she was typing away, it was green. If she stopped for a minute or two, it would turn yellow. And if it had been three, four minutes, it would turn red. Big Brother corporate could see if her computer was red and know she wasn't working. So you get a jiggler, which tricks the computer to keep it in the light green the whole time. Just go to Amazon and do computer jiggler.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, I'm going to look. They're everywhere.
SPEAKER 14 :
So I have a ton of buddies that work from home. They put in their jiggler and they go to the gym. So the question is, on productivity, are they just productive enough to hit their numbers? And if they're in an office, would they keep working, knowing that someone's around that could jump in their office and see if they're there or not and make better numbers? Okay. Be quoted by more.
SPEAKER 04 :
The other thing about in the office, though, is and I love it when I'm in studio and I love talking with everybody. But it ends up there's a lot of conversations that I'm then not as productive. But there is the camaraderie, Karen.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Well, and that was sort of what spurred a thought in my mind is that. coffee you know we used you know the time at the coffee machine you'd all gather to get the water cooler conversation there was value there but there was also wasted productivity potentially right and i look at some of um the people in my office and we have several other companies in our building other than um the real estate brokerage company and i'm like I swear that woman has gone down for coffee now for the fifth time today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or smoke breaks.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. And so I think, again, there's this balance. There's this balance. There's certain types of employment that are ideal to be done at home with people. you know, checks and balances. And there are other jobs that are ideal to be done in an office. I personally, during COVID, went to the office every day because I personally am more productive in an office setting than I am at home because I get distracted at home. So I think, again, having choice is a good thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is, and I did a quick search now. Computer Jiggler on Amazon, the Tech 8 USA mouse mover device, undetectable mouse, $29.98. That's expensive. That's a Cadillac. Cloud Deck Mouse Jiggler, undetectable for computer, USB $13.99. There you go. Oh, interesting. We always learn something new.
SPEAKER 10 :
Depending on where you're taking the conversation, I did have a thought about affordability and the other component. You touched on taxes. The other piece that is really, really hurting, especially Coloradoans and probably the majority of the nation will start to feel it as well, is insurance. And Lorne made the comment about the fires, the Marshall fires, and those homes had many of those, if not all of those people had home insurance, hazard insurance, but they couldn't rebuild their home as it had been because of regulation. But personally, our insurance got canceled on two of our investment properties.
SPEAKER 04 :
Just recently? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 10 :
We've had no claims in six years or more. And they canceled us because this particular insurance company doesn't want to do business in Colorado anymore.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's what happened to all those people in the Pacific Palisades, right? Especially one that they keep picking on State Farm that had come through maybe nine months earlier and canceled tons of policies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I want to talk with Roger Mangan about that. So with Roger, normally what we do is we pre-record those very informative, you know, his time on Monday. And so we are going to be doing those pre-records today, which we'll be rolling out these next Mondays. And I really want to get his read on it. But you want to make sure that your insurance company is solvent. And so he and I had talked about this. It's called the FAIR Act, and it moved insurance over to government. And I guess they were doing that here in Colorado and in California. I want to talk with him about that. But there's no way that government can take all of that on. So it's going to be interesting.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, again— Kim, you take away the free market. If the government controls your insurance, the cost is going to be more. We know that with health insurance. And you don't have competition. And if competition is leaving your marketplace, it's affecting the cost because I maybe had five choices and now I only have two. Those type of things. So my hope would be that we would see some of the actions that President Trump says is the encouragement of bringing free market back to The insurance industry. Yeah, marketplaces. And we also know, as my insurance agent has told me, is that it wasn't the Marshall Fire that caused our costs and hailstorms.
SPEAKER 04 :
We have a lot of hailstorms here.
SPEAKER 10 :
know two three hurricanes and fires in california because that um is spread across those companies because they're national companies and so the cost is going to then get shared by all but if you have more people in the marketplace you create more competition and i think yeah we got to accept that we're going to have natural disasters
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, to Karen's point, I'm having to recalibrate everything I do on a loan because the days of when someone would come to me and they get pre-qualified and I'd say, okay, you're buying an $800,000 house, that's probably about a $3,500 insurance policy. I would estimate $300 a month on their payment to qualify them. I have a loan closing today in Texas. They got two quotes, $8,900 and $9,500. I about fell out of my chair. They still qualified, but it was way more than what I was expecting. And they shopped it.
SPEAKER 10 :
And they're in the middle of nowhere. Nowhere. Mine just renewed. And my house is valued under seven. So my house just renewed at $4,800. And she told me, we are not going to go shop because it's going to be worse.
SPEAKER 14 :
So when I qualify people, I'm having to be like, we've got to really bump this number here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sorry for that sidetrack.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yes, and that squeezes that first-time homeowner. So, yeah, we've got a lot of work to do. And these disasters, yeah, we've got a lot of work to do. Important discussions that we have, and it came in on the text line when we come back. Apparently, in this plan of Trump's, a 40-year... And they want to know what you had to think about that. So when we come back, we'll talk about that with Lauren Levy and Karen Levine. And did want to make sure that this year on your giving, make sure you have the USMC Memorial Foundation as part of that repertoire. They are raising the money for that remodel. And that memorial is right here in Colorado. We need to honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And so be sure and do that. USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And if you've been injured or if you think you've been injured by Ozempic or any of those sister pharmaceuticals, reach out to John Bosen at Bosen Law.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. In studio with me is RE-MAX realtor Karen Levine. That number is what? 303-877-7516.
SPEAKER 10 :
So...
SPEAKER 04 :
new to buy a home sell a home new build all those things and lauren levy what's that number for everything mortgages 303-880-8881 so lauren in this plan that trump uh his wants to make housing more affordable there's this um talk of a 40-year mortgage what's your thoughts about that
SPEAKER 14 :
That'd be great. I'm totally open. The 40-year mortgage is the thing they tried to come out with last time, like the crash of 08. But the thing to remember is that, you know, first of all, whenever I call into the U.S., talk about this 10-year treasury ad nauseum, right? The reason that the 10-year treasury is so important versus a 30-year fixed mortgage is most people don't stay in their homes that long. And Karen talked about people turn over. It's the biggest purchase or sale you ever make every 10 to 15 years. So most people move or refinance or do something every 10 or 15 years. So that's why mortgage rates are tied to the 10-year note versus even though they're typically a 30-year mortgage. The 30-year mortgage is a thing that's just been around forever, and that's it. It's just been around forever. There's no rhyme or reason to it, so why couldn't it be a 40-year? But for the fact that the people that make the rules and that insure mortgages, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, haven't adopted it. It's just a 30-year fix, 15-year fix, 10-year, 20-year, 25. They haven't had a 40. So if Trump's administration decides to have them go to a 40, it'll happen. And that's fine. And we'll just get used to it. And it'll bring payments down.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, that's my question. It'll bring payments down.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it'll be similar rates, but you're just amortizing over 480 payments instead of 360 payments, the same amount of dollars. So you're just getting 10 more years to make the payments, another extra 120 months. And if you're going to stay in your house and pay it off eventually, who cares, right? You'll just stay. It's kind of like if you look at auto loans. For the longest time, auto loans were five years, right? Never longer than five years. Now there are six, seven years. Seven is about the longest I've seen, 84 months, because cars got more expensive. They wanted to sell cars. People that lend money to sell cars were like, well, people can't afford these payments over 60 months. What if we stretched that out a little bit more? But the banks control those. They can do it. They don't need government intervention. To go to a 40-year, if it's just offered on a small scale by some of these boutique niche lenders, it doesn't take hold. It needs to be through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And if they introduce it and release it, it'll be norm.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it'll be fine.
SPEAKER 04 :
Karen, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, what's interesting is that the conversation during the Biden administration was getting rid of the 30-year mortgage. And that's what's built America down. you can't get 30 year mortgage outside of the United States of America. If you go to Canada, it's a 10 year is my understanding. And so that's how we've been able to build wealth and home ownership in America is with a 30 year mortgage. When I got in the industry and rates were high, Lauren, there was a company Amundsen and they did a 40 year mortgage, but they were a private, private equity. They just couldn't sell it to Fannie. They couldn't sell it to Fannie. Oh, they did it. Okay, got it. So it was privately held, and it was a 40-year mortgage, and they utilized adjustable rates. And then they fit a marketplace. They provided choice. They provided options for people. But what happened was they got people into loans that maybe didn't understand the ups and downs, right? And with an adjustable rate mortgage, you have to have a lot more financial acumen to understand how it works. And It had what was called negative amortization, which meant that the principal balance kept growing if you didn't make so much of a payment. So with that said, it was a good product for a period of time in the market. And then that's where government overreach came in and said, we're not going to let you do those kind of things anymore. But I think we've seen it practiced and that it has had a place in the market. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
We have just a couple of minutes left, but you said Biden wanted to get rid of the 30-year mortgage.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I don't want to accuse him, but that was the conversation, and Lauren could probably speak to that better than I, but that was the conversation we were hearing at the Realtor Association was getting away, getting rid of 30-year mortgages. And if you did that, homeownership in America probably would –
SPEAKER 14 :
be much less than it is and you think and i was gonna say and then you want to see what the value of homes would be and it would be the rich and the poor so the o biden harris administration was kicking that idea around yes ma'am had you heard that as well yeah and i hear a lot of things like that and i only worry about them when they become a thing right people say a lot of things um I don't know how you get rid of a 30-year mortgage and expect anybody to buy a house because people ask me all the time, tell me what happens if I do a 15-year loan. I say, well, your payment goes from $2,400 to $3,800. That's a big deal. So my answer is I'll put you in a 30-year and I'll give you the amortization schedule of a 15-year. If you can afford to pay it at this pace, you'll pay it off in 15 years. But if you have a bad month... or an unexpected hot water heater explosion, make this lower payment and you'll still be covered and you'll be fine.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, but if we get rid of the 30 and just force a 15 on everybody, the affordability is going to drop like a rock. Wow, that would create... People won't be able to afford the payments, so the housing prices will have to drop a ton.
SPEAKER 03 :
Gosh, and you could see then... But a 40-year would have the opposite effect.
SPEAKER 14 :
It would string payments out longer and make them lower.
SPEAKER 10 :
And make it more affordable.
SPEAKER 14 :
And make the payment more affordable, and that would help a whole new world of buyers. And the question is, do we get in bidding wars again?
SPEAKER 04 :
And the price goes... Well, we have to then also make sure that we build more homes, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
I was going to say, we've got to make sure the inventory is there to sell.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
We're out of time. Lorne Levy, Everything Mortgages. What's that number? 303-880-8881. And Karen Levine for everything residential real estate.
SPEAKER 10 :
Residential real estate. Buying, selling, build new. I think you're saying new builds. Yes. 303-877-7516. Great having you here.
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