In a discussion that bridges politics and healthcare, John Rush tackles the topic of American doctors considering relocation to Canada amidst the political climate under the Trump administration. The episode examines the reasons behind their decisions and the potential impact on the healthcare system. With engaging conversations and critical insights, this episode offers listeners a comprehensive look into modern societal challenges.
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All right, Hour 3, myself, Andy Pate, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Should have mentioned this a little bit earlier, but we had all sorts of other things going on. So something that's in the news, something I talked about a couple of years when this particular accident— it wasn't an accident, by the way, this murder that happened April 19, 2023— Uh, where the three men, young men were, they were up in Jefferson County, up in kind of my neck of the woods. They were on Indiana. They had done this in other areas around the Northwest part of town as well, but they were taking landscape size boulders that they were picking up from like Walmart parking lots where you see those things out in the islands and such and, And they were throwing them at oncoming vehicles. And in this particular case, they threw one. It went through the windshield of Alexa Bartell's moving vehicle. She subsequently died because of that. I passed, not daily, but I passed this spot at least weekly, if not sometimes more than once a week. And a lot of folks are still putting out What a horrifying thing to do. Oh, it's absolutely awful. Well, these three young men, two of the three have been convicted. I don't know exactly, and it's not in front of me. I think one of them was 60 years. Another one was like 47 or so years. And the ringleader, his name is Joseph Koenig. He has been sentenced to life imprisonment. in prison without the possibility of parole. So he was convicted of first-degree murder. And, again, what a tragedy, Andy. Not only a tragedy because of the loss of life of the young lady. That in and of itself is huge. Right. But now, because these were young men. The families of these young men, you now have ruined four families' lives because of the acts of what these young men did. And this guy being basically the ringleader, he essentially, and I know that takes more than one, he wasn't the only one, although he's the only one that's been convicted or that's been sentenced to life without parole, meaning he was the ringleader or that wouldn't have happened. So reality, Andy, is he's ruined four families' lives, not just one. I mean, think about his parents. Think about the other young man's parents and so on.
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I can't even conceive of where this guy would get in his mind. And I don't care. Well, he's a teenager. Teenagers do dumb things. No, not like that.
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Like this. They don't.
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You're throwing. I mean, how big were these rocks? You shouldn't. Oh, wow. So bigger than like two softball sizes.
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Oh, yeah. I think these were like 8 to 10 inches in diameter. Well, my gosh. Heavy enough that you're picking up something that's substantial. Keep in mind, they had practiced enough. This is the other thing about this. Again, I wasn't there. I wasn't at the jury trial or any of that kind of thing. But I guarantee you that the DA and those that were bringing charges against these individuals probably proved that to do this, you had to have practiced enough. prior to doing this in other words and they had they had hit other cars windshields and so on sometimes they missed sometimes they caught the corner of the glass but they had been practicing this so this wasn't something that they were just willy-nilly let's grab one rock throw it out and see what happens no they had been doing this for other nights besides this night just so happened that this night they finally hit their quote-unquote target and she died Because remember, Andy, you're throwing this at a moving car coming at you. I know. You're not even on the side of the road doing this. You're in a moving car. That's a moving car. And you're throwing this rock out the side of the truck at the oncoming car.
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John, bottom line, these are monsters. They belong in prison. That's where they are.
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That's where they're at. And that's where they're going to stay. And my whole point is, and this is where I do feel bad, because no parent wants to hear their child died. No parent wants to hear that their child was the one that caused the death, and now your child is going to be in prison for life. And I don't know if they're siblings or anything else along those lines, but you now have affected all the lives of these other people, these other families that are now involved.
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Yeah, and you never know. On the one hand, there's a part of me that thinks, how did you parent these kids that they would actually endanger life in this way? I mean, what kind of parenting leads to this? But on the other hand, in the modern society, John, there are so many other impacts on kids. Parents don't do all the raising of kids anymore. Society raises kids to such a degree, which is horrible. You know, I don't know all the impacts on these kids' lives. I don't know, but all I know is this. What they did was monstrous. What they did was horrifying.
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Yes, absolutely. Sorry, one was sentenced to 27 years, one was sentenced to 45 years, and the other is life.
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Yeah.
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Either way, these young men, they will be old men. Even the ones that are getting out will be old men when they come out, and one never will. Think about that, Andy. You're now going to spend the rest of your life in prison. What a grave thing to actually have to now face.
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I know.
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Especially as the parents and as the family.
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John, but let me ask you, does he deserve it?
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Oh, absolutely. I think so, too. And sorry, this is and I know this is hard. And if you're the parents of this young man, I mean, I'm sorry, I feel bad. But does this particular young man deserve the death penalty? I believe he does. Yes. I believe he does. He's the one that threw the rock. He's the one that caused the death of another human being. He did it maliciously. It wasn't on accident.
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That was an attack.
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It was an attack, absolutely.
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I don't... Oh, I did it for fun. Then you did for fun. You didn't attack. Okay? I don't care what your motive was. I don't care why you did it. You took a large rock... and hurled it down at a car and attacked an innocent person and killed them.
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Yes. And on top of that, keep in mind, and I talked about this when this all happened, They not only did that, Andy, but they turned around after they knew they hit her to go back to see exactly what damage they had done. So it wasn't even like they threw it and kept driving. They threw it, knew they hit her, probably saw the brake lights and stuff go off the side of the road because where they were at, she went off into a field. They probably saw that, turned around, and even went back to look to see what happened. Sick. It wasn't even that they just kept on driving. They went back. Yeah, and I think they took... Thank you, Charlie, for saying that. Yes, I remember now. They actually also took pictures on their cell phone, Andy.
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Oh, good. Get a trophy. You know, John, let me tell you something. The guys they're going to meet in prison are a lot tougher than them. Oh, man. These are guys who do the worst kind of crimes. These are guys who don't cowardly whip rocks off bridges and run.
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And thank you, Charlie. It's in this article that I'm reading right now. They went back to get a better look. They took photos, whooped, and drove away. They never called for help. They never made any effort to save her. Instead, they formed a pack to be blood brothers, as if taking my daughter's life was something to be proud of. That's what the mom, Kelly Bartell, said.
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Yeah, these monsters are about to be surrounded by real monsters. And by the way, don't get me wrong. Anybody who commits these atrocities of any kind are cowards deep down. But I'm telling you, John, the men they're going to be around right now are terrifying.
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Yeah, and again, my point with all of this is, and maybe I look at this a little bit differently, but yes, these young men's lives will be changed. Oh, yeah. The life of the family of the young lady whose life was took, their lives are changed forever. But now also the other families, even siblings and so on, whose, you know, their brother now is going to be in prison for quite some time, and in one case forever, until they die.
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You know, I do hope somewhere, somehow, some young people know of this story and learn something. Yeah.
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You sure hope so, Andy.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, something else I wanted to talk about yesterday I didn't get a chance to. I figure while Andy's here today, I'll do so. American doctors are looking to relocate to Canada to avoid the Trump administration. It's why, and again, I talk about Dr. Scott a ton. This is why we talk about Dr. Scott as much as we do, because he's not one of these sniveling, you know, cowardly snowflake doctors that are out there, by the way.
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Totally agree. But what would they be fleeing from? I mean, what is Donald Trump doing that would make life harder for an American doctor? I mean, I would think that he's doing things that would make life easier for an American doctor.
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Some of them are saying that they feel some guilt that they did not stay to resist the Trump agenda, which, again, how this has anything to do with the medical community is beyond me. Part of being a physician is being kind to people who are in their weakest state. I feel that our country is devolving to really step on people who are weak and vulnerable, Andy. What? What? What are they talking about? This is an NPR article. I'm just reading you what NPR says.
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Yeah, I know NPR. By the way, no tax funding. Thank you. Yeah, exactly. But, John, this is ridiculous. What on earth is America doing to stomp on weak people?
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Beats the heck out of me, Andy.
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I mean, this reminds me of all the newscasts, and I just saw another one, who talk about immigrants and not illegal immigrants when it talks about, you know, the Trump administration's actions. You know, we think it threatens immigrants. No, it threatens illegal immigrants, and they always leave illegal out. Maybe these doctors are, I mean, weak Americans. What do they mean, weak Americans?
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I don't know. In fact, as I read through this trying to figure out what exactly are these guys, quote unquote, guys and gals, what are they upset about, protesting, leaving for? And I can't – there's no answer, Andy.
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John, what I mean is this. Look, you're going to have liberals in general, be it a doctor or a Hollywood star or whatever. Right. Who wants to leave America just because they don't want to be in Donald Trump's America. I get that. OK, the political landscape has become something that you can't handle and you think the other side is really mean. Hey, I thought the other side was really mean during Obama and Biden. It was hell for me. OK, I get that. I understand. But why is it a bunch of doctors? Because, I mean, let me throw this by you. Are they worried that because of their actions during COVID-19, Good question. Because, look, a lot of doctors, what they did is they prescribed very poorly, in my opinion, to benefit pharmaceutical companies during COVID.
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Andy, that's not your opinion. That's a fact. That's exactly what they did. That's a fact. I'm just saying. Absolutely. It's what I believe. Absolutely.
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And, I mean, it is also my opinion that gravity exists. Okay, so just so you know.
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No debating either one of those.
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Okay, but, John, what I'm saying is this. are they worried maybe that justice is turning? And maybe they're leaving not because of... Because, look, Donald Trump is not doing anything to make the medical community a worse place to be in.
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They're wary of the escalating right-wing political rhetoric, Andy.
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Once again, what has that got to do with the medical community? Nothing.
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Nothing, Andy.
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There has been escalated left-wing rhetoric before, escalated right-wing rhetoric before. There's escalated all-wings rhetoric going on. What does this have to do with the medical community? And all I can think about is this. Donald Trump is a threat to them in one way and one way only, and that is Kennedy. He is a threat because now the light is being shown upon what they did during COVID.
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And big pharma and, and, and. Right. I mean, does that make sense? You're 100% correct.
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Okay. And so maybe the medical community could be worried about how that they could flat out be getting exposed before long.
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That could be.
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And I'm not talking all of them. I'm talking some of them.
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Could be.
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The extreme examples, the ones who... You know, let's face it. We're treating... Look, I believe that there were people who... I know one who was unvaxxed who unfortunately went to the hospital and was treated horribly because he was unvaxxed and they basically... You know, it was an escort into death. Okay. And I just don't... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. They were pushing a vaccine that didn't work. But keep in mind, that vaccine was developed under Trump. So it's not like he's going to be going after the vaccine. I don't know what they're thinking.
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Again, I think it's a lot to do over nothing. I feel like, as usual, these are snowflakes. They're worried about something, frankly, they don't need to be worried about at all. And rather than do what's best for their own patients and their own practice, if they even have one. It sounds like a lot of these folks are coming out of hospitals and things like that, so not necessarily practices per se, Andy. But they're going up to work in now socialized medicine in Canada. Let's see how that works out for them. Have fun. Best of luck. Have fun.
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John, maybe they do gender reassignment.
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Beats me.
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I mean, look, I will say this. There has been huge, huge, huge money in medicine doing bad things to bodies. I'm sure there has. Both with big pharma, with the vaccine, with mutilating kids' bodies, with abortion. Okay, a lot of things have been directing huge money into the medical field.
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community to do bad things to bodies and trump doesn't want us doing bad things to bodies true i'm look i'm trying to draw a line here i don't know i mean andy i'm trying to find a connection this is one of these where i i read through this and i'm reading okay so predatory doctors so you well as far as these guys moving i'm like In other words, you may, you haven't yet, but you may get your feelings hurt by somebody, patients, somebody along those lines, which, by the way, most people coming in to have you look at them and examine them. They're not talking politics. Exactly. They just want to be fixed up. Yeah, fix my foot. They're not caring about any of that stuff. So at the end of the day, I see it as just a bunch of snowflake doctors that are upset their feelings might get hurt at the end of the day, Andy. I'm sorry. That's how I see it.
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Well, yeah, but that's across all professions. Why are we talking about doctors? I wonder if the jig is up. I don't know. Would you agree with this, John, that in those areas that I looked at, okay, you're talking COVID, you're talking the vaccine, you're talking transgenderism, and you're talking some other things, that there have been a good number of doctors in our country that have been flat-out predatory.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're right.
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Now, I'm not saying every doctor who's not Dr. Scott is predatory. I'm not saying that, okay? But you know what I mean. Maybe the predators are running.
SPEAKER 04 :
You could be right. It could be one or the other, or both, a combination of the two. Could be that. Could also be that these are just, literally, these are a bunch of snowflakes that decided to get into the medical profession that now are afraid that they might get their feelings hurt by who knows what, and so let's just go to Canada instead.
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Okay, one last question. Do you want a doctor who's afraid that politics that don't go his way will hurt his feelings.
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No, I do not.
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So is this any loss?
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No, other than it does probably make it a little bit tougher in the medical community because you're losing doctors at a time where we probably need more. On the same token, Andy, because of the way that the health care industry itself, we talk about this a lot even with Dr. Scott, because of the way that in big pharma works, you're going to see a lot of doctors like Dr. Scott just frankly leave that altogether And say, you know what? I'm going off on my own. I'm not going to be a part of this. I'm going to do things the way that I want to do it. And, yeah, patients are going to pay me directly instead of going through the insurance company. But at the end of the day, they're going to get better care. Okay. And that's exactly what's happening.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Payton. John, I want to talk about something else that actually relates to Canada. Yes. In a weird way. Okay, the U.S. has confirmed, and this is from the Epoch Times, who I love, the expiration of the Chevron license that allowed it to export oil from Venezuela.
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Okay.
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Okay. And I don't want to go into the whole story here, but basically, we are no longer... Because the oil that is exported out of Venezuela, it's like three to one, the money just goes to Maduro, from what I hear. And we don't want to benefit Maduro. He's a bad guy. Okay? So... Here's the question. I don't know if you've heard about this, but there is a heck of a separatist movement rising up in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
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Yes, I've seen that.
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Okay. Do you realize that this actually grants a lot more leverage to them up there? Do you know why? Why is that? The kind of oil. Alberta puts out a certain kind of crude that is actually very similar to what you get out of Venezuela. And if we don't get it from Venezuela, we're going to need more of it from Alberta. In fact, the lady who is the... What is it? Prime Minister or whatever it is of Alberta. She's the leader of Alberta. She was talking about the very fact that she wants to deal with Trump and the Americans because she said, look, you get... millions of barrels from a place that you don't want to support, we have that kind of oil that is ideal for your refineries, for certain refineries, you know, different refineries. Yeah, different refineries are for a different kind of oil.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's their tar sands oil they have.
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Exactly. And she said, we have that kind of oil. We want to sell it to America. We love America here in Alberta. And so right now, this changes. I believe this changes the entire trade negotiation because I do believe that Trump wants to basically burn Canada to the ground. Basically allow them to experience great economic pain so that they will come to the table and give real negotiations. All right? Because let's face it, Canada's entire election was about rejecting Trump. And you know Trump. He doesn't like that. All right? And now, though... Canada is dealing with, they are dealing with the very real problem of the separatist movement rising up in Saskatchewan and Alberta. Now, because of Chevron not dealing with Venezuela anymore, Alberta just became, and Saskatchewan too as well, just became incredibly important to the United States in trade negotiations. What do you see happening? Well...
SPEAKER 04 :
It'll be interesting because I just looked up. We buy, last year, 2024, we bought about 222,000 barrels a day from Venezuela. So it's not like we're buying millions upon millions of barrels.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that's a day, though.
SPEAKER 04 :
That adds up. Yeah, but it's just a per-day basis. Keep in mind, we as a country use 20 million barrels a day. So 222,000 is not that much in that respect. How much does that... raise what we're already buying from Canada I think we buy and don't quote me I'd have to double check this but we buy what 3 million or so a day from Canada is that about right I don't know exactly again I got to look this up do you know I think yeah I think it's in that range am I am I pretty close on that so you know 300 or 3 million becomes 3.2 million or so I don't know at the end of the day how much more you know what does that do to affect the relationship between us and Canada I guess is the question
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Well, what she was saying is that actually, she said, the daily difference between what America produces and what we consume is over 3 million barrels.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was close. It's 3.9. So this would put them up to about 4.9.
SPEAKER 07 :
But she would like to take it higher, not just replace Venezuela. Right. But she's saying, she simply used Venezuela as an example where you get that kind of crude.
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Okay.
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But she said, why buy from them when you can buy from us? We like you. And she said, we want to work with you. And so what Canada has right now is a real problem. They've got two provinces right there that want to deal with America, that like Trump. Okay. And the others don't. The coastal ones hate Trump. Right, right, right. Okay. And so now the coastal ones, the problem that they have, and they just elected this rabid communist. Right. Okay. Correct. But the problem he has is that they are actually coming close now. They're rising up in the numbers. They could secede. And he could have a full separation on his hands if he doesn't accommodate them. And so what he has to do in dealing with Trump, Trump's going to go to him and say, look, these two want to deal with us. And they got what we want. And we want to deal with them. We like them. We want pipelines. We want them now. We want to get this moving. Do you want to get this moving? Do you want a deal? And if you don't deal, I'm going to tell you, you're going to have a lot of very upset people in those two provinces.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hmm.
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Hmm. Okay. I'm saying there's one word, leverage. And I think it just went up.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm not going to deny that. It would be interesting to see, and I've watched some different videos and things on her in Canada talking about just America and that part of the country has always been— Pro-America. Yeah, well, pro-America, and I would even say pro-Canada when the rest of the country isn't because they're pro-everything but Canada.
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They're capitalists. They're conservative.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and the knucklehead's running it or not.
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And she's not a big separatist, but she's fine with the separatists. She'll go with them, you know, but she's not their leader. So how would that work? For those two provinces to separate. They just become part of the U.S. or what? No, they would become their own nation. However, it would be like Israel, a nation with incredibly favorable relations with the United States.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dumb question on my part, and I'm not saying this will happen, but dumb question. If they separate instead of becoming their own country, why not just become the 51st, 52nd state?
SPEAKER 07 :
If they did that, of course, you know, the Democrats would be furious.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because you'd be adding conservative states.
SPEAKER 04 :
True. And this is why— Although the population's low, so it's not a huge, huge thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but they'd still be their own states.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they'd have two senators and so on, I guess, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but three electoral votes, baby.
SPEAKER 04 :
They each get three. And there would be four senators, right, if they were two states?
SPEAKER 07 :
There'd be four senators and six— And representatives and so on. Four senators, six electoral votes. The Democrats would be devastated.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can—I mean, I'll get a dumb question again to them. What are they waiting for? It sounds like a good deal for them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it'd be a phenomenal deal. Okay. Look, anybody who lives in Alberta and Saskatchewan who is not for secession is out of their minds economically.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think most are. That's the whole point, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. They're being taxed into the ground. Alberta, for instance, I believe it's Alberta. Okay. gets taxed like $17 billion, and they only get about $10 billion in benefits from the taxes. They are huge net payers into the coffers. Why? Because of oil and gas. But here's the thing, John. They aren't even producing oil and gas at nearly the levels that they can. They're being held back by the wacko environmentalists who are running the Canadian government. If they were allowed to produce on the levels they want to produce, oh, they'd be, I mean, they are jam-packed with oil and gas.
SPEAKER 04 :
And not just oil and gas, but also mining.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mining rights are huge. They would be rare earth minerals. They would be, here's the big thing. If they were to secede, they would be overnight wealthy. And I mean the citizens of Alberta and Saskatchewan would be so loaded with money It'd be like walking into Kuwait.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why can't we just, while we're at it, get the Northwest Territories, the Yukon Territory, that connects to Alaska, and then we're like all the way up to Alaska. That would be awesome. It's not even the lower 48 anymore.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, this is why, but if you look at the other side, the east, and obviously the west coast, British Columbia.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, right, right, right.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you look at them, very liberal, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah, Quebec and all that, absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is why I don't understand Trump talking about 51st state of all of Canada. You're talking about just the east.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, no.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we don't want Canada.
SPEAKER 04 :
Talk about the 51st and 52nd state.
SPEAKER 07 :
Why would we want to add a left-wing state? That's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would approach it by giving each one of them still their own independence, and you each just stay. You'll stay Alberta. You'll stay Saskatchewan. You'll just be states of the United States of America. We'll just even let you keep your own name.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
You guys don't have to do anything different. Two new states. Other than your taxes will change.
SPEAKER 07 :
You'll have lower taxes.
SPEAKER 04 :
You'll have lower taxes. well this is what in fact by the way really quick Andy yeah go ahead on top of that we'll do the same thing we've done with Alaska for every barrel you send down we'll give you guys as citizens or you know as not citizens but as basically a kickback yeah we'll give you like we do for Alaska yeah Alaskan what name why am I why is that slipping my mind okay what are we in Colorado we're not citizens of Colorado we are what of Colorado why can't I think right now what's wrong with my brain
SPEAKER 07 :
What do you mean?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, we're taxpayers. We're Coloradans. Yeah, but what do we – you don't call us citizens of Colorado. You call us what of Colorado? What name am I looking for, Charlie? Why am I not thinking straight on this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Native? I don't know.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't really think about it. At any rate, you could tell them that both of them, whatever amount of oil – And by the way, other natural resources that you send down to the lower 48, we will give you a kickback of X that you guys. So not only will we lower your overall taxes, you guys can be like Alaska. You can even get a little more money in your coffers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's interesting you say this, John, because the separatists, when they talk to the other people in Saskatchewan and Alberta, what they're telling them is this. Your taxes are going to drop off the map because right now you are paying way higher taxes because of the leftists running our country.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
We don't need nearly those kinds of government policies. facility here's another thing we are about to have the golden dome residence is the name i was looking for andy we're residents of colorado so we would give the residents of saskatchewan and alberta a kickback according to the oh yeah yeah yeah you would do it along those lines yeah first of all your taxes would be lower you would be getting a kickback oh and by the way we're about to have the golden dome we will have that over you it will help you that you will be protected for free
SPEAKER 04 :
By the American military. Who's negotiating this?
SPEAKER 07 :
The American military.
SPEAKER 04 :
Who's negotiating this? I don't know. Somebody ought to get after this quickly, by the way. John, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, you're thinking Coloradans like Wyoming.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you're talking to Charlie. Residents. Resident was the name I was looking for, John. Residents of.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Or in California, Resident Evil. Go ahead. There you go, yes. It's a movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's then become independent a la what happened with Texas in 1836. They became an independent nation, but then they petitioned to join the United States as an independent nation. Let Alberta, Saskatchewan do that, and then this way nobody can accuse the Trump administration of stealing from Canada. No, they became free, and then they chose to join us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, in Alberta, I believe a majority of those who want to secede want to join the U.S.,
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, but let it go in the two steps and it's easier. And by the way, have either of you ever been to Calgary and the Canadian Rockies?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I never have.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, if you get a chance, whether they join us or not, Banff National Park makes Rocky Mountain National Park look like a hole. It is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. So, yeah, I didn't mean to call back a second time, but I think... No, you're fine. No, it's great.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, again, these are all, John, these are just spitball, pipe dream. Those of you that are Canadians may be listening. We're not trying to step on anybody's toes. We're just throwing things around, which, although I will say this, John, and Andy both, I don't think we're talking about anything that anybody up there hasn't already thought through as well. Am I right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can apply for Canadian citizenship right now and get it, Because I'm only second generation on my father's side, born here. Both my grandparents were Newfies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
And so because I'm less than three generations, I could go say I want to apply and move back to Canada, but why would I?
SPEAKER 04 :
Especially, yeah, I wouldn't.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, maybe we could rename Alberta New Wisconsin. What do you think? It rolls off the tongue.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wisconsin's just a bunch of liberal lunatics.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that's true. Good point, John.
SPEAKER 09 :
Alberta's fine. Alberta's Alberta. Saskatchewan, that's fine.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, really quick. Do you know, John, off the top of your head, what's the population of those two providences?
SPEAKER 09 :
Not much.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's 33 million in Canada total. Most of that's on the coast. So what's in the middle?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm thinking... I don't know for sure. I would say probably maybe a million and a million and a half per province.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hang on, I'm looking right now. Let me see if I can figure it out. Really quick, while you're looking. Alberta has 4.2 million, so less than Colorado, by the way. And Saskatchewan, 1.2 million. So altogether, you're only Colorado's population. Can we at least agree on this? We don't want Quebec. No, not at all, Andy. Why would we want Quebec? No, absolutely not.
SPEAKER 09 :
We don't want that. How about we give Quebec back to France?
SPEAKER 04 :
That's fine. Works for me.
SPEAKER 09 :
They're all French speakers anyway.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, France can have them. I'm good with just taking these two, and we're good. I'm fine with that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, me too. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'd love it.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we don't want Ontario, because during the Revolutionary War, they were a bunch of Tories, and they supported the English.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
We don't want them anyway.
SPEAKER 04 :
You have not gotten over that, have you? I'm all good with this.
SPEAKER 09 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
And really quick, I'll bet you out of the roughly, I don't know, there's not quite five, a little over five million, five and a half million or so between those two provinces, I guarantee you the majority of them would be fine with what we're talking about.
SPEAKER 07 :
What about doing it like in the NFL? Do a trade. We get those two provinces. They can have Minnesota.
SPEAKER 04 :
Or California.
SPEAKER 07 :
And California.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, that's a coast. We need it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, we'll keep the coast. But they can have Minnesota because who cares?
SPEAKER 09 :
But, John, do we really need that coast now that we have control of the Panama Canal again?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. Yeah, militarily speaking, strategically, you know, the border to Mexico, all of that, yes, we need that.
SPEAKER 07 :
And one day California will destroy itself so much.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we need it.
SPEAKER 07 :
We can get it back.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, the best plan ever for California was what?
SPEAKER 04 :
We lost you. Best plan was what?
SPEAKER 09 :
The original Lex Luthor in the original Superman movie, Christopher Reeves. You don't remember? No.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's been too long.
SPEAKER 09 :
He wanted to drop the coast of California, nuke and drop the coast of California into the ocean.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh. Well, you know, when we were kids, the fault line was always going to make that happen, but never did.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So he was going to nuke the fault line to make it happen. Interesting. That would be a good way to get rid of California, though.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah? Really quick, if you think about it, as large as those provinces are, the territory it covers and doesn't have the population Colorado does.
SPEAKER 09 :
No. It's a huge area with small people. A couple of nights. Calgary is beautiful. And then from there, you go into Rocky Mountain or Banff National Park. If you get a chance and you're looking for a mountain vacation... Throw that on the bucket list because I will tell you, you won't be disappointed.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, that's true. No, it's very pretty. You're right. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
So you guys have a great rest of the night.
SPEAKER 04 :
You too, John. Appreciate you very much. And yeah, for all of you listening that maybe even are listening in Canada, we're just throwing ideas around. We're not in charge, Andy. We have no say in this whatsoever, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. I mean, look, I've never liked Trump talking 51st state.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, because I think that's a bad way of doing it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it's a bad way, and I think it alienated a lot of people, and it really helped the left win in Canada. But if those two wanted to become United States, I would be honored to have them.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's a different conversation. And saying it that way, by the way, that's a whole different way. What's that old saying, Andy? It's not what you say, it's how you say it. You just said it completely different where it's not offensive now. Hey, if you guys would love to join us, we'd have you in a heartbeat. Yeah. They don't like you in Quebec. You guys aren't like, we'll take you. We do like you. We'd love to have you be a part of what we're doing here. And oh, by the way, we'll give you a little more, you know, we'll give you a little more back than what you're getting right now. How's that sound?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you get a lot more back. I mean, if you want to be your own country, that's good too. But just, you know, if you want to be a state.
SPEAKER 04 :
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Yep.
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All right, wrapping up things today on this fine Tuesday. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, Alaska. Which we were just talking about Canada and the potential for, you know, what are they going to do? Are they going to secede or so on? Now, we have a great state, the largest state. Most people forget that because it's tucked way up. And even when you look at it on a map, you think, oh, that thing's not that big. It's like half the U.S.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's absolutely huge.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's enormous. And beautiful. It's beautiful, and there's oil there, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, there's a ton of oil. They're very excited right now. I don't know how to say this. I think it's Utkivik, Alaska. Interior Secretary... Doug Burgum, he delivered very welcome news to them by to a bunch of Alaska natives. OK, Alaska natives. He said we are unleashing oil up there. He they what they did is the Trump administration. They took action to rescind a Biden era climate rule that locked up millions of acres from future oil and gas development. And, you know, we're always told, oh, you know, the Indians, well, they absolutely don't care about this stuff. They care a lot. They stood up and plotted. They said, we want these jobs. Yeah, it's money for them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it's not just money. It's big money. Right. And so, yeah, Joe Biden unveiled on Earth Day in 2024 blocking jobs. This thing blocking development across 13 million acres of federal lands in Alaska's National Petroleum Reserve. Okay, well, Trump's going to open it up. And they are so excited. So I just wanted to throw that out. Folks, people love Drill Baby Drill. In fact, they were up there. They were saying, Drill Baby Drill. Drill Baby Drill. It's so cool. So I thought that was pretty cool. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I think it's fabulous. And I know enough about... Alaska, I've known some folks that have lived up there and so on where they need some of this as well, Andy. Some of what went on on the North Shore, they called it the North Shore for years and years, has sort of diminished, if you would, and they need another kickstart, if you would. So, yeah, I guarantee you this is welcome news to those individuals up there. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they're about to get it, and that's fantastic. Okay. Do we have a minute? We do. We've got a minute. Go for it. Okay, really quick here, just so you know. Dan Bongino says the FBI is closing in on the January 6th pipe bomb suspect. Now, in case you're wondering, why is this a big deal? I don't have time to go into what this means except this. The Biden administration dropped this entirely and did not want to bring out who the J6 pipe bomb suspect is. The reason this is important, long story short, is that the J6 pipe bomb drew attention away from January 6th. It drew officers, law enforcement away. Remember, Pelosi also didn't want the 10,000 troops that Trump wanted. They wanted the area unsecured so it could be as bad as possible. Here's the thing. Why would they drop the investigation to find out who the J6 bomber is? The J6 bomber is wearing a hoodie right now. And this is the most surveilled area in the country. You can simply go back, go back, go back, find where this guy got out of a car and trace them. They didn't. And in only being in his job for a little over a month, Bongino is already closing in on who it is. That means that Biden covered it up. Why do you think they covered it up? If that person is a DNC contact, they are in trouble.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sort of blows up their whole J6 narrative, if you would, right? No pun intended, but yeah. It literally blows it up.
SPEAKER 07 :
This could be huge. I'm telling you something. I know this sounds small right now. If that J6 bomber is connected to the DNC, the Democrats could get wiped out in 2026. They could lose more seats. It is that big of a story.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it is. And it's one of those stories that, you know, to your point, Andy, have really kind of, you know, run under the radar, I guess you could say. Right. Even you and I haven't talked much about it just because there hasn't been much information on it because of what you said the last administration did.
SPEAKER 07 :
There is every, yeah, I did a show on it when you were out. You were out of town and I did an entire segment, a couple segments, and broke it down and said, look, there are a lot of reasons to believe that this could be a DNC contact. Somebody working with the DNC doing this. The way these bombs were put, and I don't have time to go into it right now. No, you're fine. But I'll tell you what, it could be really bad for them. It could be really horrible for them because what it does is it shows that they wanted all of J6 to happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
So one thing that we didn't get a chance to talk to, I think I'll table this until next Tuesday, was an article I was going to get into talking about what is the Democrat Party going to do? In other words, what's going to be their MAGA movement? They are, in a lot of ways, Andy, disoriented. They're trying to figure out who's going to be their leader. Is it Bernie? Is it AOC? Is it this one? Is it that one? It won't be those two, by the way, because they won't allow it. But who's it going to be moving forward, and how do they somehow, someway get a MAGA movement started inside of the Democrat Party?
SPEAKER 07 :
They can't have a MAGA movement because MAGA movement is very masculine, and they have treated men as the problem for decades.
SPEAKER 04 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 07 :
You can't turn that around, but... the people who should be leading them right now are Shapiro and Fetterman.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, we'll talk about that next Tuesday because there's a lot surrounding that. That's not a two-minute conversation. There's a lot of things around that that we can get into next week. In the meantime, you guys have a fabulous evening. Thank you so much for listening. We do appreciate it greatly. Myself, Andy, and Charlie signing off. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team, that's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And Wednesdays are Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. And their locations are Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And that's for to-go or to dine-in. And how I got to know them, it's a really important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties trying to control our lives. So a very important freedom story. How I Got to Know Them. You can find that at my website, which is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. While you're there, make sure that you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. And it highlights our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station. And we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, their freedom, their livelihood, their opportunity, their childhoods. Their lives via force and force can be a weapon, but it can be policy and unpredictable in excess of taxation, fear, coercion, government induced inflation. The agenda by the World Economic Forum, the globalist elites played out through the United Nations, the Colorado, this Colorado state legislature, this Colorado governor. And then all of these land use codes and zoning regulations and all of those things that control our property really is taking away our property. And remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the show, we focus on the issues, not personalities. I certainly will mention people that are involved in these issues because that's the way it works. But we want to stay focused on the issues and not get into the personality fighting because that doesn't accomplish anything whatsoever. Our word of the day is injustice, and it's spelled I-N-J-U-S-T-I-C-E, and it could be wrongdoing or malpractice, an offense, crime, villainy, injury. infringement, violation, abuse, criminal negligence, transgression, grievance, breaches, damage, infractions. I love this last one. And this was, it said, a crying shame. I've not heard that term in a long time. So injustice, there is a lot of injustice that is going on these days in the name of equality. And We are all to be treated equally under the law, no winners and losers with government and PBIs. And whenever we have tax incentives, treating people differently, I've been thinking a lot about Trump and this big, beautiful bill. And I'm a bit concerned with the spending on it, number one. There looks like there's some good things in it. And I like the fact that lowering taxes is a good idea, but I wish you would just do it across the board. There's no tax on tips, no tax on overtime. I like that idea, but we need to, instead of picking winners and losers, We need to be reducing taxes across the board. So he's doing good work on that. Let's just keep on keeping on. Our quote for the show is from Victor Hugo. He was born in 1802, died in 1885. He was a poet, novelist, and dramatist who was the most important of the French Romantic writers. Though regarded in France as one of the country's greatest poets, He's better known abroad for such novels as Notre Dame de Paris and Les Miserables. And he said this, between the government, which does evil, and the people who accept it, there is a certain shameful solidarity. And so, again, we have got to make sure that we are working to get government involved. all levels back into their proper role and it is a Herculean task to use our word of the day from earlier in the week several the headlines that I wanted to go through this first one was written by gosh okay here we go this is from uh creators and this is by from by betsy mccaughey and uh she was a former i think uh let's see she lieutenant governor in new york and is founder of save our city and i think i need to get her on this is probably one of the best pieces that i've seen on the attack on um on on our american way of life And yesterday when we had Mike Rollick on, he talked about House Bill 24-13-13, which several jurisdictions are suing the state of Colorado on it because it is legislation that was passed regarding housing and transit-orientated communities. And I think that I had given the wrong – I think I was looking at House Bill 25 yesterday instead of House Bill 24-13-13. And so Betsy goes on to say this. She said across the U.S., Democrats are waging war to crush a lifestyle they abhor and call it small town America, single family neighborhoods, quiet streets, town centers stamped with their own historic character and almost no signs of the vagrancy and homeless encampments that plague cities. Democrats want you to have none of this. If you've worked for years to save up for a home in one of these havens, forget about it. The Democrat Party is using brute legal force to remake towns using a cookie cutter formula that forces each of us to have the same proportion of houses and apartments, the same mix of low, middle, and upper income residents, and the same reliance on public transit, all controlled by state politicians. Any town that resists gets shamed as segregated, though this isn't about race, and they also are called snobby. On Saturday, the Connecticut legislature passed a bill, House Bill 5002, which should be called the Destroy Connecticut Towns Act. It's headed to Governor Ned Lamont's desk for signature. The new law dictates how many low-income and moderate-income apartments each Connecticut town must provide, and mandates that towns also foot the bill for the schools, parks, public transportation, and other services low-income residents will need, and local taxes will soar. And she goes on to really explain that this bill explicitly says its purpose is to ensure economic diversity in each town, but this is about social engineering, not remedying housing shortages. And the Obama administration was pushing this through on something called Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing through these community development block grants. Whenever you see the word grant there, that means that there's money and it also means that there's control. And there was a big pushback on that. And so what happens is Democrats and the radicals that are controlling the Democrat Party, they just retreat a little bit and then change the names, but don't change the policies. And we saw this playing out last year in this House Bill 1313. Next headline that I wanted to mention, and I'm questioning this, and this is from CNN. It says, family of Colorado anti-Semitic attack suspect was taken into ICE custody and has had their visas revoked. Now, reports are this guy was here illegally. He had overstayed a visa. He was here illegally. And then he has a family of, I think, five children and a wife. And they're all here. How on earth did this happen? And so it looks like those visas are going to be revoked and they will all be expelled from the United States. But how are they living? If he wasn't working, how are they paying their rent? How is this? How did this happen in America? And so there's a lot more questions regarding this guy that did this fire, this Molotov cocktail attack in Boulder on Sunday. Next thing, Mike Lindell, his trial is going on in Denver right now. And this is from the Denver Post. It says attorneys for a former Dominion voting systems official said in court Tuesday that MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell's false claims about him were fueled in part by Lindell blaming the official for his management from conservative television. And it says opening statements kicked off yesterday in this trial in federal court, and it will decide whether or not Lindell defamed Eric Coomer. And Lindell's attorneys are arguing that Lindell believed what he was saying regarding Eric Coomer. And so, again, this is a big, big trial that's occurring right now here in Denver. So stay tuned on that. Next thing, the spending, not only at the federal level, really is of a lot of concern. And again, I hope the Trump administration will claw this stuff back. In fact, I saw a headline that Trump plans to tap Biden's Green Bank to make billions in loans. I don't think that's really what we want to do. We want to quit spending. all of this money, and I'm concerned that those spending and loans might be for some of these CO2 pipelines, which it makes no sense to be bearing CO2, which is plant food, underground. And so anyway, Denver says, despite budget shortfalls, Denver is moving forward with major construction projects using money from capital funds. And... This spending is unsustainable, and we have got to get this under control. And then the last thing, Rami Johnson and I were up in Cheyenne yesterday for a luncheon. Thank you to Sandy Shaner for inviting us to the Federated Republican Women's Luncheon. There were a lot of guys there as well. And it is crazy, but right here in our backyard, there are two things that have occurred regarding boys or men in girl spaces. One is Jefferson County, where on a field trip, unbeknownst to parents, they... Jefferson County had an 11-year-old girl. They had a boy as her roommate in an overnight trip. And so the Trump administration is going to target that. It says the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights is taking actions throughout June to honor the 53rd anniversary of Title IX being signed into law. And one of the first actions announced Monday was was directed at Jefferson County Public Schools. And then the other is up at the University of Wyoming, where in one of the sororities, there is a guy that said that he thought he was a girl and was living in the sorority, really had not made much effort to even look like a girl. And apparently in the sorority, the showers, was watching the girls shower and undress and reacting like a male. And some of the girls have sued on that. And that is going to court as well. So those are two things right here in our backyard. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. and have you got big dreams for your future but not sure how to get there well call our friends at mint financial strategies they know that your financial life is unique and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first no sales pressure no one-size-fits-all approach just thoughtful guidance built around you so take that first step toward your future call mint financial strategies at 303 That's 303-285-3080. On the line with me is my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayer Cut board member, and that is Rami Johnson. And got to spend some time with her yesterday. Rami Johnson, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. It's so good to be with you again. Well, we got to spend some time in the car yesterday driving up to Cheyenne for the Republican Federated Women's Luncheon, and they were very interested in the documentary A Climate Conversation, which you and your husband, Walt, financed. I had the great honor to moderate it, but it was really a great day, and I want to say thank you to Sandy Shaner for organizing that up there, Rami.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it was very nice to meet everyone. They are very happy to be part of hearing about that movie. But, you know, Kim, in all honesty, something that was extremely disappointing to me was was across the board their viewpoint and concern for Colorado. Yes. You're hearing this everywhere. Yeah, it's heartbreaking the way that we are viewed nationally now.
SPEAKER 14 :
It really is. People ask me what's going on in Colorado. And California and Colorado are putting in policies that are really detrimental to human flourishing and prosperity. And so that's why we're doing the work that we're doing at CUTT. at the Colorado Union taxpayers. And I do want to give a shout out to our fellow board members, Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, you, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozori, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And we are rolling up our sleeves. We're going to be working on our ratings report that will be coming out. It's a monumental task. And so we're going to be working on that. But Ramey, you are watching not only things at the legislature with what we're doing at CUT, and we at CUT are going to be watching things at the local level as well. And there's a lot going on in Jefferson County across the board. But in particular, you've got your eye on the federal center. So what's some of the new things that people need to know about that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, I'd like to give you an update on this. The Federal Center, that land, it's 59 acres. After it was sold to the developer, he very quickly changed the name of it to The Bend. It's always been known as the Horseshoe Property. Well, the entire community is concerned at this point about what's happening out there. For those who are aware and are getting more and more aware, Unfortunately, Kim, our city council had a unanimous vote to go ahead with the build-out on that property. And Karen Gorday, a lady that you know, did a very in-depth expose of the federal center. And the Lakewood Reinvestment Authority, which actually came into – was voted in in 1997 – which is basically a public-private partnership, and it's supposed to give the city the authority, the ability to revitalize certain areas of the city to keep our community thriving. Well, they weighed in on this one, and so the city went ahead and went with what they recommended, which was a build-out. The city council had a split vote on a metro district for 8-3 to allow that to happen, which I'm having a little bit of problems with that. But basically, the builder can do whatever they want now. The LRA, or the Lakewood Reinvestment Authority, blighted the land issue. It's unbelievable to me, for one thing, Kim, that you can blight vacant land. The big problem is not it blighting. The big problem is that there's contamination and nobody is addressing it of what's exactly out there and to what level it's out there. There's terrible concerns about that. A gap analysis was never done. A gap analysis tells you Basically, how much it's going to cost a developer, and in this case, the taxpayers, because we are involved because of a tax increment financing that was put in place. We're on the hook as well to help with this. It's going to have 2,100 apartments. It will have 1.5 parking places. It also has retail space. I don't know what to say. Our state representative, Rebecca Stewart, was very involved in legislation that actually makes it so that water boards can only charge a certain amount on tap fees And this was really a slap in the face to the citizens of Lakewood. She went along with what the administration wanted. But in speaking with other folks regarding the Green Mountain Water Board, there's concern if they have to provide water to a contaminated site. There are some people that view this as a love canal type of situation. And so it's to be determined, I guess, what's going to happen with that. But if you don't mind, I'd like to kind of switch over to Belmar as well. Okay. There's an area in Lakewood that's just called Belmar, and its land is just south of our library. Okay. It's basically, it was open space. It was land that I never knew that the city could have purchased. When Adam Paul was mayor, apparently he was aware that the city had the opportunity to buy this. And he opted, I think, single-handedly not to purchase it. Well, a developer did get a hold of this. And it's been a very contentious issue here in Lakewood. They immediately, when they got control of it, took down 59 or 60 well-grown trees. They just cut them down immediately kind of just to slap the face of the people that are having so much trouble with this. It's basically its own ecosystem with all the beautiful trees that are out there and all the animals and birds that are there. So the people that have been fighting this, the amount that's going in over there, they gathered money quickly to have an injunction. And at the hearing, someone from the city, and I intend to find out who that was, was sitting with the builder saying, during the hearing, and the builder, of course, won. So they are going to be putting up 400 high-end apartment houses, Kim, luxury apartments. The problem with that is that they're taking out all of these beautiful trees, but there's a beautiful development across the street and east of townhomes the value of their property has immediately gone down. And once again, our state representative, Rebecca, was involved in legislation that is what people refer to as fee-in-lieu. Basically, that means that a developer can give money to the city instead of putting some land aside for... Oh, for open space, if you will. She betrayed the people of this city, in my opinion. Council, I did not realize this until just recently. They changed the policies and procedures three years ago, and they basically have just given our staff all the authority. We have a toothless city council at this point, Kim. And bureaucrats are basically running our city. They work for the developers, in my opinion. But something that I think everybody needs to really be aware of real quick is that our city manager makes $400,000, Kim. She is the highest paid in the state. And it's time for her to step down with cause.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and, Rami, I love property rights. I love development. I love people being able to develop land and create homes. But what we have happening here is this coercion through apartment buildings. We just see more and more and more of these incidents. And we've got to remember that there are property rights of the people also that lived there before. So the water rights, we need to make sure that all those things are in place as well. So when you've got, as you mentioned, the city staff and the developers sitting on the same side of the table, I think that's where it can be a real problem. And I see that not only just in Lakewood, but I've seen that across the board as well. So And it's changing the fabric of our neighborhoods, which goes back to this piece that I highlighted at the beginning of the show by Betsy McKay, who was a lieutenant governor of New York, how all of these policies are changing the fabric of. of the American dream. And I think that that is the underlying thing that people are concerned about is the coercion and the coziness with what is going on with some of these different developments, correct?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, you're very polite. I would call it collusion. I think it's egregious. We don't have a democracy here in Lakewood. We are run by bureaucrats They are totally aligned with the developers. And it's just not the city that I grew up in. It's not the state I grew up in. But we need a whole change of administration, to be frank with you, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and that's why elections matter so much. So we're going to be talking with Mark Cook about that in the next segment. Ramey Johnson, first of all, thank you for your service by when you were in the state legislature. You've served on Lakewood City Council. You actually did run for House District 30, which was against Rebecca Stewart. She is sitting in this seat at this time. And not only did she have these bills that you mentioned earlier, One of them was a favorable water tap fee for specific developed areas, which that's not fair to be picking winners and losers. But she also was a prime sponsor of House Bill 1312, which is the egregious trans activist bill. And so elections do have consequences. So we're going to keep working on that, shedding light. And we're not going to give up on Colorado, Ramey Johnson, but we've got a lot of work to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're awesome, Kim. Take care.
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Welcome back. It is a Wednesday. Thank you for joining us. Wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show, because we truly are an independent voice on an independent station looking at these issues. Wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. I got to know through Paula Sarles and the whole group at the Cooper's Troopers, a number of our Marine veterans from World War II. And one of those guys was Don Whipple. And he was a young guy at Iwo Jima, Battle of Iwo Jima, and he just recently passed on. And I will be honored to attend his services. He will be buried out at Fort Logan. But this Sunday for America's Veterans Stories, we will rebroadcast one of our interviews with Don Whipple. In his honor, an amazing man. I am so blessed that our paths have crossed and really grateful for that and also grateful for the USMC Memorial Foundation and all the work that they do to honor our military and our veterans and working on the remodel of the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax. More information about all that, go to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And there's something crazy, I would say, that has happened in Arapahoe County regarding elections. And I know it kind of seems like it can be eyes glossing over kind of stuff. It's the cast vote records. Very important. And we want to dig deep into this. Apparently, they were changed. And so we have on the line with us Mark Cook. He is a cybersecurity expert here. and has really been watching a lot of the things regarding our elections and very knowledgeable. So, Mark Cook, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 14 :
And your credentials are pretty significant regarding cybersecurity, Mark Cook.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I've been doing this for quite a while, especially with elections. That's all I've done for the past About four years is dive into all of these election, we'll say irregularities, but it's actually just been a multitude of nothing adding up across the board going through as a county to county, state to state. There's so many instances where things do not match up, even in reports directly coming from a lot of clerks. And I don't think the clerks even know that things aren't matching up because I think the clerks are just depending on the systems to do all the work for them and not realizing that things aren't aligning. And this Tasso record with Arapahoe County is the most obvious in our face that problem that has shown up.
SPEAKER 14 :
So Mark Cook, again, this is pretty detailed for people, but in the big picture, we have to have honest and transparent and fair elections if we are going to continue with our constitutional republic. And if we don't have honest, fair, and transparent elections, then we are headed towards tyranny. And we are seeing tyranny in a lot of different states. So let's dig into the weeds on this cast vote record. What is that exactly?
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. So a cast vote record is pretty simple. Imagine like an Excel file and a list of all the ballots from start to finish, all the way down, and then the columns going over from left to right are the choices on the ballots. So essentially, it's a list of all ballots and how every choice on the ballot was voted. So it'd be a one for a yes, a zero for a no, or a cell would be blank if that contest was not listed on the ballot. So essentially, you could see how every single ballot was voted all the way down from the very first one that showed up and was tabulated to the last one that was tabulated. You can't see who voted because there's no name on it. There's no way to identify the voter. It's just the ballots.
SPEAKER 14 :
And are these the actual ballots or are these images?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's just a list of the choices on the ballots.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Okay. So it's just a record of that. Now, there are ballots. So can we get access to the ballots or the images of the ballots to reconcile that with a cast vote record?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I believe they've probably already destroyed the ballots themselves. And there is part of the problem. The citizens go test their ballots, and we have, as citizens, pretty much no way to know if our ballots are actually being tabulated properly into the machines and the data that comes out of the machines, the results, if they even align with what we have put on the ballots. So they kind of hide those ballots away. They seal them up. They make it so you even have to go to a judge to get access to look at our own ballots. It's the most ridiculous thing ever. And how these tabulation systems work is they take those paper ballots, they feed them through the machine. The machine supposedly, allegedly makes an image of each one of those paper ballots, just like a scanner would. And then the software inside the machine is supposed to go through that image of and count where the dots are and how many dots there are in those areas. But there's so many things that can go wrong in that process, and mistakes, let's say programming mistakes. And we know that there have been programming mistakes because elections have actually been overturned after elections. citizens demanded a hand count. They've taken the ballots after a fight, got the ballots recounted and realized the computer count was wrong. And then they're told, well, it was just a programming error, but don't worry. It didn't happen anywhere else. That's usually what we hear. But of course they don't know that it didn't happen anywhere else because we only know that it happened if we actually hand count all the ballots. So then those ballot images are on the computers. And then we've got to fight to get access to the ballot images. Now, I have not seen them yet for Arapahoe County, but the ballot images that are on the computer, there is no way to know that the image on the computer hasn't been modified and is the same as what is on the paper. Because if, let's say I was a bad actor and I wrote the software to tabulate these ballots, I could... Pretend I'm reading the ballot in, and I could put whatever I want into the ballot image as it's stored on the computer. I could move the votes around. I could change the image, and no one would know the difference. And if nobody looks at the paper to compare the paper with the digital images, there would be no way to know that that happened.
SPEAKER 14 :
OK, so and then those records of those images of those ballots can be destroyed after a couple of years. Yes or no?
SPEAKER 09 :
After 25 months in the state of Colorado, the counties are allowed to get rid of them. Yes, which is ridiculous. I mean, hard drive spaces are cheap now.
SPEAKER 14 :
I've always wondered why, because it doesn't take that much space, really, to keep all those records for a long, long time. I've always wondered why those images could be destroyed after just two years, or just a little over two years. So there's all that over there. But now getting over here to Arapahoe County, you said that this is kind of like an Excel spreadsheet. You've got all of the different ballots and all of the different columns. And something happened where that was changed. And that's... that's a real concern. So tell us, you know what, Mark, let's do this. Let's go to break because this is a big question. And we really want to let you have all the time to give us the answer on that. And this is such important things to be looking at. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And for anything mortgages, you want to make sure that you are talking with Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. We are talking with cybersecurity expert Mark Cook regarding discrepancies in the cast vote records in Arapahoe County. So set this up for us. What happened? Once this cast vote record is set and certified, it should not be changed, correct?
SPEAKER 09 :
That's correct. It should not be changed. It is a record of all the votes cast. There should be absolutely no need to change it after the fact.
SPEAKER 14 :
But it appears that maybe that happened?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it's actually – it did absolutely happen. It's not that it appears it happened. It happened, and the county admitted that it happened. So let me start with a little bit of background on this. There is a case in Nevada right now that a pastor is actually suing the Secretary of State of Nevada because their cash flow record has problems. And there is a brilliant mathematician that has looked at a lot of cash flow records around the country. And he's seen a pattern. There's a particular way to look at them to compare the types of votes against other types of votes. Correlated votes is what I call it. And he's looked at them and found that there's a peculiar thing about the data that is completely inorganic, meaning unnatural pattern. And what he was doing is. looking at correlated elections, like people that vote for, we'll say people that vote for Trump, how do they vote on other issues and people that vote for Biden? How do they vote on other issues? And typically they would, they should in a real world vote according to their party alignment. That's typically how that works. But what he's found is in many States, many counties, that the voting based on the cast vote record shows that the people that vote for the Republican candidate and the people that vote for the Democrat candidate on particular issues, they vote in unison. Their change of vote is in unison with each other, which is very bizarre. And let me bring this to a real world example for people. Let's say two people are running from one point to another, and they're in a race. And the two people aren't necessarily next to each other. One person's ahead of the other one. But as one person speeds up, the other person speeds up. And then that person slows down, and the other person slows down. So they always match the rate of change of their speed. Wouldn't that be weird if you have two runners and they keep speeding up and slowing down, but they do it in unison? You would think they would be connected somehow. And that's what he's seeing in the data. Actually, anyone that uses Excel can actually look at it. It's a pretty simple calculation. And you can graph it and you can see the rate of change of the votes tracked by between those voters. And so he's found that. And that doesn't happen in normal cast vote records. In a normal election, that would not be there. And so that indicates that there's manipulation in the data. It's unnatural data. Maybe fake and made up, very possibly. Probably it is. So the Arapahoe County cast vote record, when he came across that, he did that same test on that. But he found something even more peculiar in the Arapahoe County record. And that was not only were they speeding up and slowing down at the same rate, the two people were standing right next to each other at the same time. So as they were running from one point to another, they were literally directly next to each other. And the translation for that is, well, the Democrats and the Republicans, people that voted for the Democrat candidate and people that voted for the Republican candidate, Both voted exactly the same way on this particular issue regarding property taxes. Identical. When one went up, the other one went up. Then one went down, the other one went down. And they also match if they're right next to each other as one sped up, the other one sped up and slowed down and slowed down. So they would track completely side by side all the way through as well. And I'm talking within like a percentage point or less. And that was very peculiar. Now, some people may say, well, yes, that could be normal because, you know, it's possible it's a tax issue. So, you know, Democrats and Republicans are going to vote the same on the tax issue. And that would hold true possibly, except for the other counties in Colorado that he analyzed did not show that. The other counties showed a much more natural pattern of Democrats voting in one way on that issue and Republicans voting in a different way on that issue. And so that was the peculiar thing. It was so obviously fake. There's just no way that it would have happened normally. And so they've been battling this in this court case in Nevada. They've been trying to get this data admitted into court, especially Arapahoe County data. Then what happened is a couple, about a month ago now, I happened to be talking to this mathematician and we're looking at the data and we go pull up the data again from the county website. The data at the county website suddenly was a whole new file. The cast vote record, which is the records of votes cast for the 2020 election that had been there for years unchanged, suddenly was a new file and totally different. We opened it up and we compared the two, and there's actually 15.8 million changes to the votes. The votes were shuffled around completely inside this file. And even the totals at the bottom, the results of the election, the results of the contests, some of them changed a little bit. Not much. I think the most I saw was 11 votes difference on it. But they changed. And so how does four years later the votes change dramatically? in an election and how do all the votes get moved from one ballot to another ballot across the board? I mean, out of all the 350 something thousand ballots, only five of them were not touched. All the rest were changed. And I totaled up, calculated all those changes, and it was 15.8 million votes, meaning the way that people, according to the data, the way that people cast their ballots, the choices they marked on the ballots were now completely different It was the most bizarre thing. And as we've looked into it, there's a lot of other changes they made. But when you look and rerun that data through Ed's test to see if it's tracking side by side as these two runners run down, suddenly it looks just like all the other counties now. The data was quote unquote fixed. So that artifact that was unnatural is now gone and now it looks natural. However, They induced, they got rid of that problem, but they induced other problems in the file. And so what happens is if you have a cash flow record, let's say it's a natural, normal cash flow record that accurately reflects the will of the people that was on the balance. If you want to control the data in that cash flow record, if you force data to change inside the record, mathematically, programmatically, you're going to induce a type of signature in the data that shows it's fake. If you try to control something, you're going to induce a pattern in the file that someone could look at and say, hey, this pattern shouldn't be here. It's unnatural. So what they did is what it looks like is they tried to get rid of that pattern, but in doing so, they created other obvious patterns in the file, probably in haste. And so we start talking about this and talking about all these changes. And then all of a sudden, Arapahoe County, within a day or so, comes out with a statement on their website. And they say it says on or about, I think, October 29th, 2024, that they were notified by this assistant Yale professor that said there was a problem with the cast vote record and that they looked into it and had their experts look at it and they realized it was wrong. So they went and fixed it, quote, unquote, and put out a new one. So essentially what they've done is they've admitted that the record of the votes that were passed that everyone depended on as a record of that election in Arapahoe County was wrong. And we're told everything's always perfect out of these voting systems. Here they are, the counties admitting four years later, after telling everyone everything was accurate, four years later, now they've changed 15.8 million votes on an election that happened years ago. Why would they do that? Why would they wait all this time? And the other very interesting thing is, why didn't they say anything on October 29th? a week before the 24 election. If this professor came in and told them there's a problem with the data, why wouldn't they have mentioned it to anyone? Well, that's when Jenna Griswold was going through that massive embarrassment for getting caught having posted the BIOS passwords for most of the county's election systems in the state of Colorado on the Secretary of State website For, I think, at least four months, they were out there in the open. And remember, the BIOS password getting leaked out for one county is the reason why they persecuted that clerk, Tina Peters. And here we have the Secretary of State of Colorado put out all the BIOS passwords for the entire state. And, of course, no investigation, nothing ever happened to her. Yet they persecute a single clerk that didn't even release the password. Someone else released an old password that had already been changed in the county, but yet they lied and claimed it was a new password and persecuted this clerk. So the whole thing is just completely dirty. We know now that Arapahoe County's original record of how all the votes were cast in the county was absolutely wrong. And that amendment that it was passed, obviously manufactured votes on is an amendment that costs a lot of people, a lot of money as their property taxes have increased. And that was a statewide issue. So we, they got some answers that they need to come forward with and they better hold some water. So after they put out this notice, they claimed that they made the change in, um, April, early April is when they changed it. However, when I analyzed the file, I can see they made the file in February. So they waited another two months before they even put it out there, and then they still didn't tell anyone. I mean, they didn't let the voters in Arapahoe County know either.
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Wow. So, Mark Cook, we've got to have some more conversation about this. This is so important. We're out of time. But I really thank you for your work on that, and we will get you rescheduled on the show here very soon. Thank you.
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And I I know that that was very detailed in that conversation with Mark Cook in our number one regarding these Arapahoe County cast vote records. But once my understanding is once an election is certified. those records should not be changed whatsoever. And so the fact that Mark Cook and mathematician Ed Solomon have looked at this and seen that these records have been changed, That's a serious, serious problem. So we're going to stay tuned on all of this. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors, such as the Harris family. I thank them for their goal sponsorship of the show. And our word of the day is injustice. And I think it's an injustice of what has happened with these cast vote records in Arapahoe County. Now, it sounds like perhaps the... And outcomes, as Mark said, it doesn't sound like the outcomes on maybe change that much of the votes. But what it sounds to me like and again, thank you to Mary. She texted this in. is that perhaps there might have been shuffling votes around to hide that particular pattern that they found out about. And so changing those records, that's not okay. Because once an election is certified, that should be locked in. At least that is my understanding on all of that. So anyway, this looks like this could be an injustice. It's an injustice. If we have people that are changing our elections, that is an injustice, which is our word of the day. And it is spelled I-N-J-U-S-T-I-C-E. It could be wrongdoing or malpractice, an offense, crime, villainy. Injury, infringement, a violation, abuse, criminal negligence, transgression, a grievance or a breach, damage, infraction, or a crying shame. And as I mentioned in the first hour, I'd not really heard the term a crying shame in quite some time. But the word is injustice, I-N-J-U-S-T-I-C-E. And if, in fact, this change in this cast vote records, and they really need to be able to take a real look at that, and particularly when the Gallagher Amendment was repealed, And the Gallagher Amendment had been in place to keep guardrails around property taxes, residential property taxes. And once the Gallagher Amendment disappeared and then we saw the increase in assessments, valuations of property taxes. Then we saw property taxes go up significantly. All of these things are connected to these elections. And so it's really important that we make sure that we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. Our quote of the day is from Victor Hugo. He was a poet, novelist, and dramatist, one of the most important of the French romantic writers. He is known for his novels, Notre Dame, Paris, and Les Miserables. And he said, between the government, which does evil and the people who accept it, there is a certain shameful solidarity. And of course, he lived 1802 to 1885. And so what we realize is generation and generation, human nature does not change. And our founders understood that. That's why they put in place the Constitution to have people that would govern ourselves and have limited government. And, of course, we're way out of the bounds on that. We need to get that put back in the proper role. And I talked in the first hour about a piece by Betsy McCauley, who is a former lieutenant governor in New York, regarding home ownership and this manipulation by politicians of our neighborhoods. And we're seeing it in many states across the nation. But people here in America, and I loved what she said, that our homes in a way are like little mini estates that European aristocrats used to have where they had gardens and houses. Well, we have our own little mini estates here with our single-family homes, with our yards, and one of the ways to make that happen, of course, is to be talking with Loren Levy regarding mortgages. He does everything regarding mortgages in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. Loren, welcome to the show.
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Hey, good morning, Kim.
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And what's happening with interest rates? I haven't really been paying attention this week.
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That's okay. We've been in this range around... area with rates for quite some time now it's interesting um there was a meeting you know maybe a week or so ago face to face with uh the fed chairman powell and trump and trump basically asked him to lower rates and evidently the word is that it got contentious but then today just this morning as i was getting ready to call in we got the adp employment numbers which are that's the private sector without government hiring and that came in quite a bit lower and so trump we just had uh put out a tweet or whatever saying you're too late to Powell to start lower rates, comparing him to Europe and things. So we'll see what happens at the next meeting. But for right now, we're in this range where the 10-year Treasury I always refer to has been between $430 and $450 for quite some time. So we haven't seen much movement in rates in the last few weeks.
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Well, I've seen different things regarding the economy. And of course, there have been those that have been so concerned about tariffs that that would be inflationary. However, I saw a report that we've not seen inflation out of control. What are you seeing, Lorne Levy?
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I agree. I just see what I read because it's hard to tell because a lot of the tariffs are haven't even technically taken effect yet because they get talked about, but then they get put on hold for a while as a negotiation tactic. And we've talked about that for a long time, that the president we have now is a negotiator, and some of these are just tactics to get people to the table. So they'll say there's going to be tariffs, but then they won't actually implement them. Now, I do know some of them haven't implemented because you see the amount of money that they talk about coming into the Treasury. But some of the bigger ones haven't been implemented yet. And I think that's what's held off with some of the Fed moves is, you know, what if the tariffs do take effect? What happens to inflation then? And so that's been kind of a holdup with them, I think. So we'll have to see what happens with this. But it's creating that uncertainty we always talk about.
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Well, and I hear that the businesses, they don't like uncertainty, and I get that. However, there's been such uncertainty, I think, over the big picture of America with the trajectory that we were headed with all of that spending and more and more government control. Does it appear that we're going to... get this spending a bit under control. I've talked with a number of people that have said that this big, beautiful bill that will increase the national debt. And I'm concerned about that, Warren Levy.
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Yeah, that's a factor. And some of the biggest guys in the banking world have been mentioning that, you know, what happens to our federal government bonds if we just keep creating more debt and people start to maybe even consider weaponizing that against us and not buying it. because a lot of that debt gets bought by other countries. But then on the other side, with the uncertainty, what you have that could potentially be affecting the economy is you have big companies that do what's called CapEx, spending on capital expenditures, large ticket items that they don't know what to do yet, so they're holding off on that spending. And that could cause something for the economy, because if they spend that money, that's really a boom for our economy, creates jobs and everything else. But again, with that unknown of what their numbers are going to look like, they're holding off on some of that spending, which is affecting things as well. So, you know, for right now, the good news is that people who are interested in looking at moving or purchasing homes or doing anything like that, the rates have been kind of stagnant for a bit. And so you have that certainty of, you know, what the rate's going to be roughly. And so if you can afford the payment now, it shouldn't change too much on you while you're in the process of looking for that house. And then if it drops later, like I say, we can always just refinance it down the road.
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Okay. Okay. And if people want to sit down and talk with you about anything mortgages, what's the best way for them to contact you?
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The best way is always just call us at 303-880-8881.
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And again, that's Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. He works with a number of different companies, so all kinds of options can help in every state except New York. That number is 303-880-8881. Lorne, thanks so much. We'll talk with you next week. Okay. Thank you so much, Kim. And the show comes to you because of these sponsors. And for everything regarding your insurance, you want to reach out to the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. Roger's been in business for 48 years, taking care of his clients and his family and giving back to the community. And so sit down with them for a complimentary appointment. Go through that. Make sure you have the insurance that you need. You might be able to save some money if you bundle everything together. That number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan Team is there.
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Hi, Kim. Great to be back. Had a wolf in your backyard lately?
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Not yet, but it sounds like some people do, yeah?
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They seem to be scattering pretty good, although I saw a report of the sixth dead one found, so celebrate that.
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Well, and I saw a report yesterday that in California, livestock producers are having their cattle killed by wolves. And I hadn't even realized, why am I not surprised that there's wolves in California as well?
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Interestingly enough, I had Diego Barrison, who's a dear friend of mine, He immigrated from Italy to Northern California. His family raises Piedmontese cattle and grapes. They raise grapes as parent stock for vineyards all throughout California and in Italy as And about three weeks ago, maybe a month ago, I had Diego on talking about what's going on in Italy because there's new information and farmers are not able to allow their animals to be outside overnight because of wolf depredation in Italy, back in the home country where he came from. And the week after we had that broadcast, it came out that in his county, there had been some wolf kills in Northern California where he lives. And this week you can find wolf depredation in new areas of Colorado, new areas of California, and it continues to be a problem in Arizona and New Mexico. And it seems like a little thing, but all of these little things are really starting to add up to be something very significant in our food supply.
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Well, and those that are pushing these policies, they know exactly what they're doing. And I did want to correct something. Thank you, Richard, the limo guy, regarding the pronunciation of Betsy's last name. He says it's McCaw. She had written – she's a former lieutenant governor in New York, and we talked about a very important piece about the changing the fabric of – our neighborhoods. It was titled, let me get to it here. It says, The Democrats' War on Small Town Values and Property Values. And it's one of the best pieces I've seen regarding the work that they're trying to do to change the fabric of our communities. And so we are at the We are at the point where we have to really take a stand, as you say, on a regular basis. And what I see happening is the doubling down at the local, county, and state level of these radical activist progressive policies, such as the wolves, which is livestock depredation, which affects our food supply policy. or the doubling down on dictating in the urban areas that you have to have apartments and subsidized housing and all of that together, dictating that. And Colorado's in a big fight on that. It's House Bill 241313. So we've got I think I take in great comfort when Trump was elected. And there's a number of things that I really like that he does. But I am concerned about the spending that is in this big, beautiful bill, Trent Luce.
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It's one big, ugly package is what it really is. And spending is clearly between two and three trillion dollars somewhere. And people tend to forget, if you look at the amount of growth government had during Trump's first tenure as president, it was unparalleled by anything that had happened, even FDR. And then Biden took it to a new level. And on this pace, Trump's second term will outpace the growth of government that he even did in the first term.
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And so, and again, I've talked with so many people that they say, I love looking at the news every morning because it's, and there's some things that Trump really has delivered on. And one of those is the border. And of course, since we've last talked, Trent Luce, we had this attack up in Boulder. A guy with an incendiary device threw it into a crowd of people. people that were having a vigil for Israelis that are being held in Gaza.
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I followed that, Kim.
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Yeah, and it's crazy to me that we have a guy that's here illegally, and then the Biden administration gave him a work visa, and then come to find out he's got a family of five children and a wife here as well. And my understanding, again, I think Richard said that these people are on a plane out of America. But I do think that Trump's done a good job on this out-of-control immigration. So I'm happy about that.
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I've got a different take on that now. And I keep track of what Kristi Noem does because she's encroaching upon violating our liberty as individual citizens. or legal entities in this country. And it appears to me, and I always ask the question, Kim, because I went to the border, you know, I got banned on four different social media sites from Eagle pass, Texas. And I had a personal tour with the Texas national guard at Eagle pass and where they're crossing. And I was there and help detail. I didn't help, but I was there standing with the front line, the Texas national guard. When these people were crossing the river, this young couple were crossing the river, and the day before I was there, 1,700 crossed the river. But what I never could figure out is that during that entire time that Biden was welcoming and paying people and just encroaching upon our constitutional authority every single day, the media was bringing it to us every day. Every day they were telling us how unconstitutional Biden really was. And this is a media that was his friend. And I'm like, why are they showing us? Why are they getting people in the United States so outraged and letting us know what he's actually doing? Now I know. And I know because the rally cry and the people who are supporting Trump because he's fixing this Biden problem. We are being played like pawns in a chess game. They wanted these atrocities to be so big that it would appear as though Trump's fixing them when, in fact, we need to keep track of the people who he is violating their rights. We need to maintain the Constitution first and foremost. There is a legal way to come into this country. And if they're here illegally, we need to get rid of them. What does that look like? I don't even know. I'm pretty sure it doesn't include putting them in an El Salvador prison and paying the El Salvadorians Six million dollars a year to house them. How does that benefit our problem other than making it safer here for our citizens?
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Well, that seems like a good idea. Yeah, that seems like a good idea.
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How many legal people are you willing to sacrifice in the name of fixing these Biden problems?
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Well, but now I know that you've got the example of your friend out in Nevada, and he's had some workers come in on the visa programs. But it sure seems to me like Trump is sending a whole bunch of people back that are not here legally. And that, I think, needs to be done, Trent Luce.
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I do, but you didn't answer my question. How many legal residents or legal workers are you willing to sacrifice to get rid of Biden's problems? Because there were two raids on two businesses in Madison, South Dakota, three weeks ago, and there were people legally working in those two places. By the way, as governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem gives one of these entities a grant to continue to expand and do things in Madison. Three days after she comes back to speak as Secretary of Homeland Security, there's a raid in Madison, South Dakota. They take people into custody, some of them legal to be here working, and now their future is in jeopardy here. How many people are we willing to risk? And I also have employers telling me that we have legal people showing up that are not willing to come to work here. because they're afraid that they're going to be confused for somebody and deported, so they go off the grid. That's happened every single week I get somebody telling me, I've got that happening at my place.
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So the question is, then, and I see what your question is, and we'll leave that on the table, go to break and come back, is, of course, the answer is, ideally, we don't want to sacrifice anyone that is here legally and or American citizens. But the question is, then, on the table is, how do we... what do we do? Because there are so many people that are here illegally. What do we do? So we'll leave that as the question out there. And I know that we also want to get to executive orders. I did some homework on executive orders as well. And a couple of things. I wanted to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. I would highly recommend that it would be something that you would visit with the children sometime this summer. Because the Portraits of Valor tell the story of these men that took action when a situation presented itself to defend those around them and save lives. And the center is nonpolitical. It's nonpartisan. It's just focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And those things have really been under attack, just like our Second Amendment. And that's why I'm very pleased to have the Second Syndicate as the sponsor of the show.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we will be broadcasting a show for America's Veterans Stories this Sunday with World War II Iwo Jima veteran Don Whipple. And Don just recently passed on, very special man. And in his honor, we will be rebroadcasting this interview. His services will be later on in this month, which I will have the honor of attending. He will be buried out at Fort Logan tonight. And so the USMC Memorial Foundation is doing such amazing work to remember and honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And it's important to support them. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Trent Luce is on the line. We're talking about the Trump administration had mentioned immigration. And this came in here and from one of our listeners said that I said that the majority of us are willing to have the people here legally, which to me is questionable. Look at the guy here. that did the Criminal Act in Boulder. And actually, this is a really important point, and that is, from an immigration standpoint, bringing people in, these students in to come into our premier universities such as Harvard, It's changed the fabric of our universities. I remember I was out in California and I went over to Stanford because I wanted to go to the library and try to do some research. I think it was on Valerie Jarrett. I was trying to find a yearbook regarding when she was at Stanford. I think that's right. And interestingly enough, in the library, when I got there, that particular yearbook that I was looking for was missing, which I thought was curious at the time. But anyway, the fabric of Stanford was not the cross-section of America. It looked to me like it was primarily students from other countries. And now we're looking at it from a money standpoint. That's what's happened at many of the premier universities. So we've got we've got a lot of work to do on this immigration side. But I do think that Trump's doing a lot of good stuff on this at Trent Luce. And so what would your what would be your response? How many people here illegally are we willing to keep here illegally? in order to protect some people that have come here legally. How many people should we keep here illegally to protect those, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 07 :
Number one, I believe the whole immigration thing is a distraction from the true cost of Trump, which is local control loss and a screwed-up energy policy and food policy. Number two, all universities, not just the Harvards and Stanfords of the world, have this whole DEI admission thing that's been taking place. Our two daughters are at smaller schools. It's the same thing at every school. That's gravely concerning. And we need to get the illegals out of this country. But let's remind ourselves that before Biden became president, there were 12 million. We knew. We talked about it. 12 million illegals in this country. There needs to be a plan and a slow approach to correcting this wrong. We've been going about it in this haphazard, quick way, and I'm not willing to sacrifice one legal citizen or legal worker in this country to accelerate getting the rest out. Why can't we take our time and do it with investigations like anybody would do? Why is that to be done by July 4th?
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, energy policy. Again, we've seen headlines, drill, baby, drill, shovel, baby, shovel, which I like very much. And we're all very encouraged here in Colorado with Chris Wright as the Secretary of the Department of Energy. And then I've seen two different headlines. One, you had mentioned that in the executive order that Trump had issued that he was in support of the CO2 pipelines. And then I thought I saw another headline that said he was not. But it makes no sense to be bearing CO2, which is plant food, under the ground. And you and I have talked about that many, many times. And Rami Johnson and I were up in Cheyenne yesterday speaking about a Climate Conversation, our documentary. So, you know, where are we at on these CO2 pipelines with Trump?
SPEAKER 07 :
He's 100 percent supportive. I've got that directly from somebody who called. I was standing by a guy called Donald Trump Jr. He's because he takes all of his energy direction from Harold Hamm. Harold Hamm is the guy who created and took to the field fracking. Harold Hamm has invested billions into CO2 pipelines. He is going to he is the reason Trump is the reason that it was in that big, ugly package to begin with. We were told he was very reluctant to pull it out. There's a delegation of South Dakota state elected officials who are in D.C. today to try to get on top of this. I still expect him to federalize it and tell the states that they have no control over CO2 pipelines. I today, later this afternoon, I'm going to where they are currently constructing CO2 pipelines in my home state of Nebraska to go to that area today. that you were in yesterday, to bury it a mile and a half deep under earth. They always throw out there that this is all about enhanced oil recovery. Well, if it was, they'd already be doing it because once they put it in a place of pore space under Cheyenne or in the Denver Formation or in the Bakken in North Dakota, it has to stay there for 12 years. So it's not about enhanced oil recovery. We're being lied to. and we're putting people at risk and the people that I probably care most about in this scenario are the first responders who are not properly educated about how CO2 works, what happens when you encroach upon it. It happened in Mississippi. There was a rupture. All of the first responders show up. Their engines died. There were 70-some people that ended up in the hospital. This thing will kill people. It is what we use. CO2 is what we use to kill pigs, turkeys, and chickens. And I have noticed, and I'll challenge all of our listeners here, Take note of the gas stations that are now moving their CO2 containers outside of the gas station instead of keeping it inside. And that's because 100 people a year die in restaurants and bars and gas stations and places that have CO2 containers. These canisters will kill and so will a CO2 pipeline when the CO2 is compressed to 2200 PSI and expands at 500 times the rate it was in that pipeline.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so we always make the argument in climate conversation that CO2 is plant food, that CO2 is good for us, that with CO2, plants thrive and prosper. But you just said that CO2 kills people. Doesn't that play into the narrative of those that say that CO2 is bad?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, not at all, because CO2 is in the Earth's atmosphere at 430 parts per million. A greenhouse that uses CO2 as literal plant food, like God put it in the atmosphere, has it 800 parts per million. It doesn't kill anybody in a greenhouse at 800 parts per million. It kills people when it's concentrated in a pipeline and asphyxiates them because it removes oxygen from their lungs. We have it at 7%. In the turkey, chicken, and pork facilities that use it, 7% of the atmosphere is CO2, and at 7%, it kills people. At 0.043%, it's plant food. It's about the concentration. You have no danger if you just allow it in the atmosphere or put it in a greenhouse. When you compress it in a pipeline at 2200 PSI and it expands until it disbands, you're in danger. The kill zone... We've determined the kill zone is at least six miles on a 24-inch pipeline with compressed CO2 at 2200 PSI. Six miles. You have two minutes to get out of that path or you will die.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, now I'm going to change gears going back to something that came in on immigration. And this is something that Helen Creeble, who she's since passed on, but we have her in between the first and second hour with the Linza Liberty. And she's really just very reasonable in things that she, as she looks at government and proper role of government. And she had come up with something called the red card solution. regarding immigration and employers that need to have workers to come in across the border. And the red card solution would be that these people that want to come to America would be vetted on the other side of the border. They would have a red card, which meant that they could come in and they could work here in America and they would be here legally. And that seemed like that was a solution that made a lot of sense. Are you familiar with the red card solution? Have you heard that before?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I haven't.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, and I know that former Congressman Greg Lopez, that is something that he's put forward as well, and he and Helen Kriebel knew each other very well. And, again, that would be to have people vetted on the other side of the border. They would be given a red card where they could come in. And they could work here. And I think the employers would be involved in that as well, probably interviewing people to come in and work as well. So let's change gears. You know what? We're just about to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Let me just make another comment about that. People always say we need immigration reform. We do not. We need immigration enforcement. We have a green card system. We have an H-2A system. We don't need anything else. We simply need to follow the rules and the Constitution that we currently have.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I don't disagree with you on that either. And OK, so we'll continue these discussions. We need to talk about executive orders because I did some homework on that. And I know that that's one of the things that you're very concerned about, Trent Luce. And these discussions happen because of our sponsors. If you've been injured, you want to make sure that you reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 11 :
It's a great day to be here.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is a great day to be alive, and we are in this battle for our state and for our country to get government back in its proper constitutional role. I'm talking with Trent Luce, a sixth-generation farmer and rancher, and we have Eric on the line. And Eric is so well-informed on so many issues. Eric, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome. Well, thank you, Kim, for welcoming me. Hi, Trent, you great American. Hey, Eric. I got a simple fix. I was talking to Kim's great producer, Joe. I mean, a work release jail program. You know, the short timers that are in jail, Kim, for a year or so that are on minor charges, misdemeanors, you know, driving offenses, simple stuff like that. I would be the first one to raise my hand if Trent Luce was the sheriff of that specific jail. Who wants to go work? I do. Well, we got construction work. We got farmer work. We got all this kind of work to do. Who's willing to do what? I'm willing to do anything. Kim, imagine all the money that I'm going to speak for myself that I'm going to be making today. If I work minimum wage to replace all these illegal aliens jobs that people say that the American people won't do, I'm an American. I would do it. It would solve all the problems because they're all over the America, Trent and Kim, to do that job release jail program. And you would get a lot of qualified people that are in jail that wouldn't know how to do that. As a resource. I don't know. What do you guys think?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think that that's a great idea. And this came in from on the text line. It says, I absolutely respect and love to hear Eric Manning on all of these radio shows. You tell him that we all support him immensely. And thank you. So you're always thinking outside the box. Trench your comments on that. And then we've got Ron on the line as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Actually, I think this has legs, and mostly because four times I've been to Louisiana State Penitentiary as a visitor, not as a resident, just in case you're wondering. Louisiana State Penitentiary at Angola is very unique in the country. The Texan prison system and Louisiana prison system still have farms. These inmates... who are trustees, what Eric just said, have earned the right to go and be trusted, go out. And I have personally witnessed 1,000 inmates at Angola hoeing a row, and 100% of the food consumed in the Louisiana State Penitentiary is grown in their prison system at the hands of the people who are occupying those prisons themselves. to take that to the next step and bring them out and work on farms and in industry, I have no problem with that whatsoever. I think it has absolute tremendous merit. The only thing I want to make sure that Eric's clear on that he said, I do not support illegal workers in this country. I support the legal system being enforced so that people feel comfortable legally working in any of the jobs that Americans won't do.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and to Eric's point, though, we need to get to a point where there has to be – I don't ever remember thinking that there are jobs that Americans shouldn't do. I don't think that any work should be beneath us if, in fact, we're working to take care of our families and put food on the table. Ron, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, Kim. Yeah, I have this deal with these Muslims and – jihadists and all this other stuff if if it was you or i or um trent loose or anybody said that we if you don't believe in what we believe we're going to kill you the whole world would come down on us they would call us hitler uh nazis they would go in there but yet these people can go in here and do this and catch people on fire and uh you know through all this hate speech and and cause riots and everything, and it's supposed to be okay. I don't understand. I think we should deport them all and let them fight their wars and everything in their country because their own people won't even take them. They won't even take them in other Muslim countries. So what does that say?
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. I think that's a very interesting point as far as there seems to be no tolerance for the Western worldview, but there seems to be, there's been so much tolerance for other worldviews here in America. So Ron, thank you. Trent, you want to weigh in on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Only that I believe in the Second Amendment, as I believe in all of the Constitution. And I also believe that you need to be here legally. If you're not here legally, you're subject to leaving.
SPEAKER 14 :
I and that's what we need to have the Trump administration doing. So let's see. Let's go through. This is another comment. This goes going to the CO2 pipelines and we'll have to do executive orders next week. I think it says this is from Sandra. She said regarding the CO2 lines going underground, who will be liable when they would rupture? That's a really good legal question. What what's your thoughts on that, Trent?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, there's actually precedent because the companies where the rupture was in Mississippi and then there was a rupture in Louisiana, which did not have any human impact. The companies that built them claimed immunity and the insurance company was left holding the bag. The insurance company, now you have a growing number of insurance companies who are openly stating, we will not insure your property if you have CO2 pipelines underneath them.
SPEAKER 14 :
So then ultimately where that will probably go back to is to the taxpayer then, right?
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 07 :
The same people that paid for it, the people that don't want it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
And yet the whole reason they're chasing it is for this $85 per metric ton tax credit. Who needs a tax credit? The Bill Gates, the Jeff Bezos, the Warren Buffetts of the world, and George Soros, believe it or not, needs a tax credit apparently. These are the people that chase this.
SPEAKER 14 :
But I thought that these elites are the ones that said that everybody needs to pay their fair share. So you're saying that they actually want to get tax credits so that they don't have to pay some of their taxes, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
I would just say that there's a lot of people seeking to get the headlines that are going to be pleasing to people. But if you follow their actions on the ground, it doesn't match their rhetoric, which is why I have a problem with Trump.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we certainly – okay, next question, and we only have a few minutes. But would you be more happy with Kamala Harris, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, absolutely not. And the reason Kamala Harris was there is because people knew that Trump was going to be a problem, but they brought a negative 50 in to compete against a zero. So no way was Kamala Harris better. Absolutely not. The question should be why in the United States of America in 2024 are these the two options we have to pick as the leader of the best free world in the world?
SPEAKER 14 :
But who do you think would have – I think that Trump is a man for this time because America has been on a trajectory that's not sustainable. Of course, then I look at the spending here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Who built that from 2016 to 2020?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it was before 2016. It was before 2016.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look at the acceleration at 2016 to 2020 and the size of government and the intrusion at every level of local government. It accelerated in 2016 to 2020. And keep in mind, I was on the Trump advisory tag advisory committee during that four year period of time. I had a direct line to the White House. And it was the things that I was getting back, the feedback that I was getting, the people that I was communicating with. And the people who will not be a part of this Trump team because we learned in the first Trump fiasco, this is not the place we need to be going.
SPEAKER 14 :
But who would you say would be the person that could lead us out of this place that we have been heading? And I submit it, certainly there are things that happened with COVID, the big expansion of government. I agree with that. But I also think that the expansion of government was much, much earlier than Trump. And it was Obama and it was Clinton and it was the Bushes.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I think that that's... You haven't looked at the expansion under Trump, have you, Kim? Look at how much it expanded under Trump. Look what he's doing to the farm community. Continues to decimate the farm community by giving payments, by giving payments. And we're as bad as a crack-addicted person now. And the answer to your question was Ryan Binkley.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, I'm sorry. So my question was, who would you recommend? And you've got a name for us?
SPEAKER 07 :
Ryan Binkley. I was supporting Ryan Binkley through the entire Republican primary and had him on the air several times. And the man would have been the best person to begin the process. And we're not going to make it happen overnight. That's the issue. But he was the one in the field that you asked me who it was. That's who I chose and that's who I supported.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I don't know him. So we've got two minutes. Tell me about this guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's a businessman and a pastor from Dallas, Texas that just put God first, understood the power of we the people, and because he was the right one, at every turn, he was rejected. He did actually finish higher in most primaries than people give him credit for because anybody who met him, anybody that knew him, knew he was the real deal. And consequently, media didn't want you to know about him.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and coming in on the text line, there are a number of listeners that said that we are Trump supporters and we have these discussions because we have to have these discussions because these discussions are happening in our state and in our country. And we have to have these important discussions so that we can reclaim Colorado and reclaim America. So I appreciate you, Trent Luce. I'll be thinking a lot about this conversation throughout the week. And I think it's important to have them. So have a great week. What's your final thoughts you'd like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, we talked about the tea party that occurred. We talked about it going to happen. We had our modern-day tea party in Bismarck in the Missouri River. It was fantastic. We need to replicate it all throughout this country.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I think that we are in the third founding of our country. And I'll try to get to some of these other text messages as well. But our quote for the end of the show is from Victor Hugo. And he said this, perseverance is the secret of all triumphs. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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And fast on a rough road riding High through the mountains climbing Twisting, turning further from my home Young like a new moon rising Fierce through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great home And I don't want no one to cry But tell them if I don't say
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In this episode of The Good News, Angie Austin is joined by Kenza Haddock, an inspiring woman who shares her incredible journey from Islam to Christianity. Kenza details the profound spiritual experience that led her to embrace a new faith, defying family expectations and societal norms. She discusses the pressures and anxieties she faced growing up and how a life-changing dream about Jesus transformed her outlook on life forever.
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with The Good News along with Kenza Haddock. Kenza is joining us for the second time. Her book is The Ex-Muslim's Guide to Christianity. Welcome back, Kenza.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you so much, Angie.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. So give everyone kind of a little review of your story and how you left your family and started a new life as a Christian. And you grew up as a Muslim and all of your siblings and your parents are still Muslims. Give us the lowdown.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. So I grew up in an Islamic household and my understanding of life was that I was here for a certain amount of time. And during my time in life, I was supposed to satisfy these five pillars of Islam and energy. They were all works-based. And in Islam, there's no assurance of salvation. So talk about anxiety. My anxiety level was through the roof. And, I mean, works-based. I had to pray five times a day, fast 30 days out of the year. And even then... there was no connection with God. I believed in a God who didn't care about having a relationship with me. And I believed that he was the one true God who I referred to as Allah. And Muslims believe that any negative circumstance that happens to you is a direct, there's a direct correlation that it's Allah's punishment on your life. And so, oh yeah, by the age of 23, I was convinced that he hated me and believing that he was God. I mean, believing that the person who has the authority to send you to heaven or hell hates you. I lost the will to live and I became suicidal on top of being anxious. And I remember it was October 19th, 2012. I contemplated suicide. And as I was sitting on the couch and this fear came over me as I contemplated ending my life. And the fear came over me where I knew all of a sudden that I was spiritually bankrupt, that if I went through with ending my life, that I would end up in hell. And I didn't know what to do. I threw out all of the Islamic rituals and I just threw myself on the ground and cried out to God, whoever would hear me, whoever at the time. And I said, God, I know that you hate me. I know that I don't have any favor with you. Just show me the way to you. And I cried myself to sleep. And that was the night I had a dream about Jesus.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I'm curious. Had you ever been introduced to Jesus? Did you know about Christianity? Had you ever, you know, did you have friends who were Christians?
SPEAKER 04 :
I had some friends who were Christians. We didn't talk about Christianity much. There was a friend in particular, he was a sergeant in the military. He was a recruiter. And he was just living by example. He wasn't, quote unquote, like trying to shove it down my throat. He was just telling me about it, but he never gave me a Bible. I wasn't allowed to touch a Bible as a Muslim. At least within the context of my family, we weren't allowed to. And what I believed was that Jesus was a prophet and that Christians were misled. Oh. Yes, that's what I believed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, so this dream was life-changing because you had reached the end of your rope, didn't really want to go on anymore, cried out to a God you thought hated you, and you were answered by a dream about Jesus.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yes. Yes. And I felt a peace. Mind you, I had I mean, anxiety was my norm, a state of anxiety. And I felt a peace that I had never felt before when I when I saw Jesus. And so he's the real deal. And so I didn't know where to go from there. It took about 10 months for me to give my life to Jesus since the dream.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is, I mean, really, you're like a walking miracle in a way, because it's just crazy how this happened. You wouldn't even believe that this could happen to a person who was surrounded by a family so strong in their beliefs.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yes. It speaks to the sovereignty of God as well, you know, the way he leads us. And I do, looking back, Angie, I believe that the Holy Spirit was leading, you know. He was leading me little by little. And I tell brothers and sisters in the faith now, I'm like, you know, you never know. Don't ever assume that a coworker knows how to get saved. Don't ever assume that a classmate or your neighbor knows how to walk with Jesus just because, you know, it doesn't matter where we live. Here in South Carolina, it's called the Bible Belt, but it doesn't matter where we live because I didn't know how to get safe. I thought I needed to take tests and pass quizzes, and I had no idea.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. All right, so you write the book that we've discussed before, The Ex-Muslim's Guide to Christianity. You've got a family now. You're married, you're a mom, and your family still tries to get you back. Your parents and your siblings still believe you should return to them and leave your Christian faith. And so you're constantly living under, I would assume, a little bit of fear or anxiety, even though you do have the peace that comes along with your relationship with Christ. And you write this book. What are some of the questions that you receive the most from people about the book or issues that you really feel you're helping people with?
SPEAKER 04 :
A lot of times, especially when I dealt with persecution from family, The questions I dealt with were, why would a family member try to come after you? Are you referring to questions from just anyone?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, just in general. If people said, hey, you wrote this book, what are people saying to you? What are you hearing? What's the feedback you're getting?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I think a lot of people are surprised that... this sin of apostasy is dealt with here in the United States. I think a lot of, and I understand that. I understand the concern because we think that people only deal with that outside of the United States. We believe in, you know, freedom of religion. We're allowed to be believers if we want to follow Jesus here in the United States. Unfortunately, you know, Leaving Islam is not easy. It's not celebrated by family. And so that is something that has been a surprise to many. And so I explained that the Sharia law is clear that, you know, for apostates, they should be given an invitation to return. But at the end of the day, you know, leaving Islam is basically signing your own death warrants.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's so scary. I just admire your courage. You left your family because you believed that Jesus was the way and that you'd found this peace after not wanting to live anymore and now have this beautiful life and feel kind of a calling to talk to other people about Christianity. I'm assuming you get a lot of pushback as well about what you're doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. A lot of times I think it's more so the question is, are you being politically correct? And it's not my my intention is not so much being politically correct. It's sharing the truth. And the truth is, Jesus is the Lord. I mean, at the end of the day, we are all going to face him as as a judge. And we're either going to go to heaven or go to hell. And, I mean, that's just the truth. It's not my opinion.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wait, I thought Muslims would be coming after you. You're saying people maybe who lean a little more liberal are saying that by you saying the ex-Muslims' guide to Christianity, Ken, said that somehow you're not being politically correct. You're not honoring them and their beliefs by you saying you switched yours and, hey, Christianity is something I want to tell you about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yes, more so that. It's because I'm being more bold in my faith. It's like I'm choosing one side, but really I'm not. I'm just being on the side of truth.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and here you are, a woman who really feels as though you have more rights now in your current lifestyle, and then people are telling you that, oh, it's not right the way that you're representing Islam and Christianity, and in a way you might be offending Muslims by doing that. But in reality, what I think people don't understand sometimes is that Your life now that you chose for yourself and that you're trying to open up and tell other people about is one with so much more freedom as a woman. I mean, we're not even talking fake, just as a woman.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yes, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I merely existed before. I mean, to the point where I was clinically looking back, I was clinically depressed and anxious. And now, yes, that's where I got boldness from.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, it's him. So tell me what you're teaching people, what you're telling people in the book, what you want them to take away from it.
SPEAKER 04 :
More so, you know, when I gave my life to Jesus... There were so many things that I had to face simultaneously. First, leaving family of origin. And so as a Muslim, my identity was tied to my family. Not only my sense of security, but also my identity. And my misconceptions about God were so... I mean, I had a whole list of them. And so what I... including the book, is we have to get to know Yahweh. That is so important. And thankfully, in Jesus, we have access to God. And so one of the warnings I issue to an ex-Muslim, and honestly, this goes to even someone who was raised in Catholicism. I've found that even friends who are raised in Catholicism or friends who were raised in certain denominations where they viewed their pastor as closer to God or a priest as closer to God, I explained, hey, no, as believers, we didn't receive the Holy Spirit Junior. No, we received the Spirit. We received the Holy Spirit. We have full access to God through Jesus. And so we get to know God get to understand that, yes, while he's sovereign, he's also merciful. And it's through that relationship that we get to know who we are. Because as an ex-Muslim, I had to learn that I was made in the image of God. That's That was not taught to me as a Muslim.
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Well, I want to make sure that people know how to reach you and how to find your book, The Ex-Muslim's Guide to Christianity, Kenza Haddock, H-A-D-D-O-C-K, Kenza, with a K. Give us your website.
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Yes, it's Kenza, K-E-N-Z-A, Haddock, H-A-D-D-O-C-K.com.
SPEAKER 06 :
excellent kenza haddock.com the ex-muslims guide to christianity and i just want to say thank you so much for all you're doing for others i just think that there's so many people out there who are going to read your book or who already have who may feel that there is a different way for them and that they may be able to find the freedom and the peace that you have and obviously your faith is so important to you so i can't thank you enough for being bold and being brave enough to write your book thank you so much kenza
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Thank you, Angie.
SPEAKER 06 :
You bet. I hope to have you back again.
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Hey there, Angie Austin here with the good news, along with two of my favorite good news gals, Michelle, Ron and Beatrice Bruno. Good morning to you, Beatrice. Good morning. God bless you this morning. You too. Well, I guess afternoon now and Michelle, good afternoon to you.
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Well, thank you. It's a great day to be here. That's for sure.
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All right. So every week we have a word of the week from our retired teacher, Michelle A. Ron dot com. What do you have for us this week, Michelle?
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Well, this is, it's a slang. It's slang, and I will explain it, but it is FOMO, and it is spelled F-O-M-O. Oh, we know it. Oh, I'm sure you do, because you're a mom of a teenager. So, I just spent a week with our whole family. There were 10 of us. at the lake of the ozarks and we didn't go out of the area um in other words we did no grocery shopping we did nothing we spent the entire week of swimming and boating and eating and cards and eating and sleeping and playing old game shows and eating again and i just i loved oh and i need to tell you the ages i had Three of my perfect grandchildren in college.
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Did you leave the other crummy one behind? The crummy one?
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No, no, no. They're coming. They're coming. My one perfect grandson in high school who will be a senior. And then my one youngest perfect grandchild will be in seventh grade. But I loved listening and conversing. with all of them. And it's just amazing what one generation can learn from another. And so this language that I learned was brand new to me. But yes, dear Angie, I am sure that you are well aware of it. And the phrase or the word or the slang, whatever you call it, is FOMO. And it stands for fear of missing out. And one night, Um, my, my, uh, one granddaughter in who's in college was on the couch and it was late. It was late. We'd had a busy day of being out in the sun and she was all wrapped up in a blanket and. And a couple of the other adults had gone to bed. And so I said, well, Mia, aren't you? Are you tired, honey? Go on to bed. No, no, no, no. No, I don't want to. I have FOMO, Grandma. You what? You what? And she said she didn't want to miss out on anything. She had fear of. of missing out on something. So she gave me sentences to help put this all in text. And it says, I don't want to have FOMO. So I'm going to go to the movies with my friends instead of taking a nap. I didn't want to go to bed because I was having FOMO. So I stayed up later and hung out with everyone. And I just got the biggest hit out of that. And So I've tried to be aware of FOMO. And she said, and Grandma, there's a lot of other ones. There's, oh gosh, how is it? YOLO. You only live once. And so now what I'm suggesting to all of our listeners, that absolutely none of us want to have FOMO. in our relationship with our Jesus Christ. We have to make that choice, that decision, to accept Christ as our Savior, because literally there's no gray area. It's an either-or, and now is the time. And the fear is real if we miss out on Christ. The fear is going to help. Or am I going to be with Jesus and go to heaven? So FOMO is real. And I just want to throw that out there for people like me that didn't know about the slang or whatever you call it. Okay.
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I have one question before I let Beatrice chime in here. Her fear of missing out wasn't with her friends or contacting people back home. It was fear of missing out on the family gathering. Is that right?
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Correct. Right. Oh. Because the rest of us were all still up, and she didn't want to miss out on anything.
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Oh, that makes me so happy that a college kid wanted to be with you, that she didn't want to be in a room holed up with her phone talking to her friends, that she didn't, she had a fear of missing out on the fun with grandma and her siblings and cousins and aunts.
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Right, right. Speaking of the phone, the phone was kind of off limits in a big way. And for Grandma, too, because Grandma is... I'm tied to that phone. So I'm honestly probably worse than the teenagers on that one. But it was a good time. It was a good time to be together. And again, you know, if we just listen to other generations, and they listen to us, I mean, it's important... They need us, and we need them. Oh, my goodness. We need each other.
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And I'll never forget, Beatrice, I think you were with us. We were in the studio maybe 10 years ago, and I think the show is going on like 12 years now. I just got an anniversary letter from Crawford Broadcasting.
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Wow.
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Yeah, the owner. He always writes me every year, and it was very complimentary. Everybody says the show is great and local, and local radio is a rarity these days. A lot of it's just... So it's not local per se. I won't call them out, like exactly call them out. But here's what Michelle said, Beatrice, and then you feed into this. She said, my one regret if I could do something differently is I would have leaned, listened to Jesus more when I was younger, like when I was raising my kids. And I'll never forget her saying that. And so that's kind of what you're talking about here, fear of missing out, that we don't want to miss out that opportunity with Jesus. So your turn, Beatrice.
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Mm-hmm. You know, this was just really good. Mimi, I love that word that, wow, and that illustration you use with your family. And, you know, in the society that we're in right now, we are so scared of missing out on stuff. You know, we forget all about the Lord and what he wants us to do. And that brings me to Romans 12 and two, where it says, and be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. And I always add at the end of that for you. You know, what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God for me? Because I don't want to miss out on what God has for me. And oftentimes we get so caught up in the world and the things that's going on in the world that we miss out on what's really important. And, you know, I'm glad that your granddaughter, you know, Miss College Girl, I'm glad she grasped that and said, I don't want to miss out on what the family is doing. You know, we should be at a place in our lives where we don't want to miss out what God is doing. Yesterday morning when I was on my walk, I was almost done. I do about five miles a day, five days a week. And I was coming to the end of it. And I always pass by Wendy's out there on Colfax. And when I passed by the sign they had out there, I saw this guy. He was laying on the ground and he was just getting up. And somebody else was laying on the ground next to him. And as I walked past, the Lord said, go into Wendy's and buy them some food. And I said, and at first I was like, I don't know about that, Lord. I'm kind of struggling myself, God. And then it just hit me. I said, let me go into Wendy's. I got them a cup of coffee each and I got them a sausage biscuit each and some potatoes and got the, you know, the creamer and sugar and all that stuff, took it out there to them. And when I gave it to them, these it was a guy and a lady and they looked at me like, thank you so much. And I said, hey, and I gave it to him and they said it on the ground and the guy sat back down. He was going to eat. And I said, hey, let me pray for you guys. And I prayed for him. And I said, Father, please show them who they are. God. Show them what you have got them here on this earth for, Father. And Lord, raise them up like never before. And I put my hands on both their shoulders and stuff. And, you know, most people will say, oh, well, I'm not touching them because they've been living. You better get you better. You miss it out. You're missing out on what God is telling you to do. And when I finished praying for them, the guy, he looked at my face and he was you could tell that he was so grateful. He said, thank you so much. OK, and I got up and I walked on back to the apartment, you know, but see my fear of missing out. OK, I was like, Lord, I don't want to miss out on any of the moves that you have for me to be in this particular season in my life. And so I didn't miss out on that because I was obedient to the call of God to go in and spend eleven dollars and some change for food for these people that's down on their luck. They may be on drugs. I don't care. That's not my problem. That's between them and God. But my thing is to do what God is saying to do. And see, God is looking for people right now that will have that FOMO in them and say, no, I don't want to miss out on what God is doing right now. Lord, help me to be attuned and in alignment with what you're doing. And that's that's what I love. That's what your granddaughter was like. OK, I want to be aligned and in tune with my family because we're having a good time and I don't want to miss nothing. And that's how we should be right now. So that's my take on it, Angie. Hallelujah.
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I just, I still am just, it makes me so happy that a grandkid in college felt that way. That just really makes me happy. And I love it that the phones were limited. And we did just do a vacation where I would say it was like 10% a little bit stressful for me just because kids argue a lot when they're all three teenagers. And we brought a friend and my daughter wanted to keep the friend to herself. You know, like, this is my friend and no one else can play checkers with her and no one else can be paddleboarding while we're paddleboarding. I'm like, oh... I don't know if I told you guys, I said, oh, that's a great idea, Hope. You and your friend go out there and paddleboard and then I'll get a TikTok video of your sister Faith crying on the shore watching you. Like, what? Right. Like, I'm going to make her stand on the shore and not go because you have a friend that you're paddleboarding with.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we played so many games and had so much fun on the boat and things really did turn around after we established that other people could speak to the friend in the family. I'm like, we all like this friend. That's why we invited her. Yeah. I'm like, we're sharing the friend. And so, yeah, but it's funny because if I bring one of you, like you guys are my friend, Jennifer Bishop or Beatrice. You've been around my kids quite a bit. Like if I brought one of you, Hope would glom on to you. And I told her once, I'm like, hey, this time I brought my friend, Jennifer. Like you stop trying to hog her because any friend, Hope's going to claim the friend. You know, she's going to be best friends with them. But I just love... The idea of getting together with family and really setting boundaries so that they say they have FOMO and they don't want to miss out on all the fun with the family. And I think a lot of us need to take a real hard look at our relationship with the Lord. And are we? Are we missing out? And we should have the fear of missing out, as Michelle mentioned, and not get so busy in our lives that we neglect that relationship. And then, you know, like you said, Michelle, and you're one that totally leans on the Lord, you and Beatrice both. When you said that, that I just wish I would have listened to the Lord more. It did really strike me. And then I even thought, well, how? How do you do it? And we've talked about that before and we can again about your different rituals when it comes to your prayer time. And I have to write things down or I feel like I hear nothing per se. But I just appreciate both of you. Beatrice, you're speaking, you're writing. You would love to do more speaking events. So how do people reach you?
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Beatrice at Drill Sergeant of Life dot com.
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Anything cool coming up or anything you want to tell us about?
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I'm going to be speaking at the Optimist National Convention on August the 19th in Fort Morgan.
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I'm excited about that.
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Yeah, I'm excited about that. And, you know, the Optimist Club, that's a really good organization because they're all about the youth. OK, and they are giving back to these youth. And I just I love what they're doing with the youth.
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I love it, too. All right. How about you, Michelle?
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Oh, Michelle A. Ron dot com and nothing coming up. But, you know, God's in charge, and I'd love to be with anybody that would allow me the privilege. Thanks. Amen. All right.
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God bless you both, and thanks for joining us on The Good News.
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God bless you all. Love you all. Bye-bye.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
In this episode of The Flatline, Rick Hughes delves into the core principles that define a believer's spiritual journey. Discover the 10 problem-solving devices designed to enhance your spiritual IQ and navigate the challenges of life. Through the lens of God's Word, Rick educates listeners on how to block adversity from morphing into internal stress, emphasizing that while adversity is unavoidable, stress is a choice. The highlight of this episode is the exploration of God's loving discipline, as Rick guides us through scriptures that remind us of the divine wisdom encapsulated in God's reproof. He intricately explains how God's love administers discipline, offering a roadmap for repentance and spiritual growth. This episode is both a wake-up call and a source of spiritual encouragement, emphasizing the essential role of God's love in the life of a believer. Listeners will gain insights into the spiritual battles waged within every believer, understanding the conflict between the Holy Spirit and the sin nature. Rick offers practical advice on how to recognize the control patterns of sin and how to effectively rebound through confession and restoration, thus maintaining a healthy spiritual life that honors God's love.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to The Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, you have a cordial invitation to stick around. 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, some education, all without any manipulation. The Flatline is about learning God's tremendous problem-solving devices. If you do that, if you can verify and identify those 10 things we talk about, then you can orient and adjust and use them in your life and stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside source of stress because adversity, as you know, is inevitable, but stress is optional. You've heard me say it before, God gave you two ends, one of them you sit with, one of them you think with. You better learn which one to use because it's heads you win, tails you lose. And this show is going to give you information, no emotion, not playing with your emotions. We're here to give you some information because you got a brain just like me. Now, some people have a higher IQ than I do, maybe lower IQ than me, but some people just middle of the rotors like me. But in God's wonderful plan, human IQ is never an issue. The human IQ that we have can be supplemented by learning God's Word and staying filled with the Holy Spirit, and then we develop a spiritual IQ. Yes, if you use Rebound, problem-solving device number one, to make sure that you deal with your known sin, that guarantees that you can stay filled with the Holy Spirit. And then if you take the Word of God that you learn under a well-qualified pastor in your local church as he teaches you God's Word and you apply it into your life and then use your volition to apply it, you know, you can say positive volition or negative volition. Yes, I will do it. No, I won't do it. But if you apply what you learn from your pastor, then you can have some spiritual IQ in your life, which I call spiritual x-ray vision. You have discernment, you have understanding, you have wisdom, and that's what wisdom does. It gives you spiritual x-ray vision so that you can see what people don't see. You can understand the deceptions and the delusions that Satan throws your way. So please, let's stick with me. Listen up, learn, and apply into your life. As I told you before, these shows are all podcasts on our podcast platforms, and that's Apple Podcasts or Spotify Podcasts or Anchor Podcasts. All are there listed as The Flot Line, F-L-O-T. And we always have transcripts of all of these radio shows, all during the year 2019. We now have completed three volumes of transcripts. Every radio show that I taught, 52 shows in the year of 2019 is in print in three different volumes. If you'd like a copy, it's free. We'll be glad to send it to you. All you have to do is contact us through the website, rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org. Let us know and we'll send it right on out to you. Today we want to talk about something that's very important to us. All of us need to understand this and learn this. I'm going to give you three verses and listen carefully. You may have to apply these to your life. I hope not. But it deals with how the love of God, because we have been studying how God loves you. We've done six lessons on that. So this is going to deal with how the love of God administers discipline to us. How the love of God administers discipline to us. Beginning in Revelation 3.19, those whom I love, I reprove and discipline. Therefore be zealous and repent. A lot of people can't handle that word repent because there's several different words, metanoeo, metamelema, metanoia, three different Greek words for repent. But repent basically means to change your mind, change the way you think. Your spiritual life is lived in your soul, and in your soul is your mentality. And the Bible says, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. That's dealing with how you think. The Bible also says this. The Bible says, stop thinking of self in terms of arrogance beyond what you should think. But think in terms of sanity as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word. That's Romans 12, 3 in a modified expanded translation. So when we say repent, it means to change the way you think. Those that I love, I reprove. That's the discipline that God puts into our life. I reprove and I discipline. Therefore, hurry up, be zealous, do this quickly, and change what you're thinking. In Psalm 7.9b, part of that verse, Psalm 7, verse 9, the b part of the verse, for the righteous God tries the hearts and minds, parentheses, of each one of us. The righteous God tries the heart and minds of each one of us. So there's nothing you can hide from God. He can see what's in your mind. He can see what's in your heart. Now listen carefully. In the New Testament, the mind is called the nous, the N-O-U-S, and the heart is called the cardia, K-A-R-D-I-A, cardia. So the nous is where the information assimilates when your pastor teaches it to you. And the card is where it needs to go because it's never wisdom till it gets into your heart. Just because you heard it and understood it doesn't mean you've applied it yet. And so God is looking at you to see what's in your heart and what you're listening to, what you're learning, what you can apply. And that's the critical thing. He's always checking us out. The justice of God is always checking us out. In Hebrews 12, five through 11 says, And you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons. My sons, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him. That means that God may have to sometimes take us to the woodshed to get our attention. Sometimes that happens because we get out of fellowship with God. We'll talk about that here as we go through this. Verse 6, Hebrews 12, 6, For those whom the Lord loves, he disciplines, and he scourges every son he receives. It is for discipline that you endure because God deals with you as with a son. For what son is there with whom the father does not discipline? Verse 8, but if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not really a son. But furthermore, we have had earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them. Shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits and live? For they disciplined us for a short time, as it seemed best to them. But he disciplines us for our good, so that we may share his holiness. And there's talking about the difference between our earthly father and our heavenly father. Those that God loves, he disciplines. So it is possible. It may be probable that what you're going through right now, what you think is bad luck, what you think is a run of bad luck may actually be discipline. It may be God dropping the hammer on you to get your attention. All discipline, all discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful but sorrowful. That's verse 11. Yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness. So it's not fun to go under discipline, but it's imperative that we have it to get our attention. God must get our attention sometimes because we sometimes wander off down the my way highway and he does the discipline to get us back. Proverbs 15, 10 says, grievous punishment is for him who forsakes the way, but he who hates reproof will die. So listen carefully. He will discipline us. What son is there whom the father does not discipline? All of us get disciplined as children of God. He scourges every son whom he receives. It's the discipline that we endure. So there's warning discipline when God has to get your attention. It may be from reading a verse in the Bible. It may be from seeing a sign on the side of the road. It may be from hearing a preacher on the TV or radio. But somehow or another, the Holy Spirit reaches out and gets your attention. And then you can respond to that by confessing your sin. Or you can ignore that and keep going merrily down the my way highway using your volition to quench and grieve the Holy Spirit. And if that warning doesn't work, then the intense discipline comes, the scourging. Sometimes he's just going to have to take you out behind the woodshed to get your attention and give you an attitude adjustment. And if that doesn't work, well, this verse goes on to say, grievous punishment is for him who forsakes the way, but he who hates the reproof of God shall die. There is something called dying discipline. And this is when God's not able to get your attention. This is when you're so much wrapped up in your own arrogance and your own self-righteousness that you're not listening, not paying attention, and you don't care. So just like your earthly father disciplined us, God disciplines you. And listen again carefully. Furthermore, this is verse 9, Hebrews 12. Furthermore, we had earthly fathers discipline us, and we respected them. Now listen. Shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits and live? Did you hear that? And live. And then I go back to Proverbs 15, 10. Grievous punishment is for him who forsakes the way, but the one who hates reproof will die. There's the difference, living and dying. It's possible that you can check yourself out way too soon because of your arrogance and not responding to the discipline of God and becoming hardened in your heart. So let's get you some principles down that hopefully will help explain what I'm talking about here today. One, when we believe in Jesus Christ, God's anointed son, we enter into a post-salvation spiritual life. That's after we get saved. And that mandates for us that we are to love God and love our fellow man. That's what the Bible talks about. Love God and love your neighbor. So you have to have virtue love, personal love for God, and impersonal love for your neighbors. That's part of the problem-solving devices. Problem-solving device number six and seven. Personal, well, actually seven and eight. Personal love for God is number seven. Impersonal love for all is number eight. By the way, there's a bookmark with all of these problem-solving devices on it. If you'd like to get it, just write to us. We'll send you... as many as you need, and you can stick it in your Bible to find your place every now and then. But it helps you remember what those 10 problem-solving devices are. And we need to do a review on that for you, probably. But when we believe in Christ, we enter into this post-salvation spiritual life. which mandates that we have love. And all believers, all of us are beneficiaries of God's love, you and me together. And because God's love did not reject us. Remember John 3, 16, God so loved the world, all of us. But what we do, we reject the love of God. His love doesn't reject us. We reject it. When we reject the spiritual life, we're rejecting the love of God. You know, the Bible says, cursed is a man who trusteth in man. That's rejecting the spiritual life. And the Bible talks about you having this artificial wisdom in Proverbs 3, 7. The wisdom, the fool thinks he's smarter than God, rejecting the spiritual life. If we reject the spiritual life, we're rejecting the love of God because this is something he gave you. This is how he prepares you and equips you to live in the devil's world. So if you reject the spiritual life, what's gonna happen? If you're a Christian and you reject the spiritual life, you're going to come under the divine discipline. So here's the principle. One, if you have known sin in your life and you haven't confessed that sin to God, you may be out of fellowship with God. Number two, If you're a Christian and you're not growing consistently in God's word, taking it in and learning it, you may be out of fellowship with God. Remember the Bible says, study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. That's a mandate. That's a requirement. That's not a request. Growing the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is a mandate, a requirement, not a request. So if you're not growing, if you're not studying, if you're not advancing in the spiritual life, you're sinning. You're disobeying the mandates. And this discipline that God brings into our life is not because he's mad at us. It's because he's disappointed in us and he loves us and he wants to keep us from self-destructing. So we have to understand the love of God is one of the most important things in our spiritual life. He's equipped me. He preserves me. He protects me. And he disciplines me when I step in the wrong direction to get me back onto the right road. And this may be what's happening in your life. Maybe this is why you're having financial problems. Maybe this is why you're having marriage problems. Maybe this is why you're having social problems. Maybe this is why everything keeps tearing up, breaking down, going crazy, because God is trying to get your attention. Are you listening to him? Look at your life. Look at the sin in your life. Admit your sin. Go to the Father and admit it. David said, when I withheld my sin, I about dried up and died. Psalm 32, 5. But when I went to the Lord and admitted my sin, he cleansed me. In 1 John 1, 9, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us. You can't keep living a lie. As a Christian, you can't keep hiding in the darkness, acting like no one knows what you're doing. The Father knows, and the discipline is there, and that may be what you're going through right now. So number two, yielding to the temptations of this world or the temptations of the flesh or the temptations of the devil is will result in you using your volition to go negative to the mandates of God. And when you do that, then you submit to control of your sin nature. That's what you do. When you yield to the temptations of the world, the flesh or the devil, you use your volition, part of the format of your soul, to go negative to the love of God, the mandates he gave you. Thus you submit yourself to your sin nature controlling yourself. Paul talked about it in Romans 7.15 about the sin nature. Listen to what I read to you, 7.15 through 20. Romans, for what I am doing, I do not understand. For I am not practicing what I would like to practice, but I'm doing the very thing I hate. But if I do the very thing I don't want to do, then I'm agreeing with the law, confessing the law is good. So now no longer am I the one doing it, but it's sin which dwells in me. That's the flesh. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For the willing to do good is present in me, but the doing of good is not present. For the good things that I want to do, I don't do, but I practice the very evil things I don't want to do. But if I'm doing the very things I don't want to do, then it's no longer me doing it, but the sin nature that dwells in me. There's a battle going on inside of you. Every day there's a battle inside of you. Your sin nature may raise its ugly head on the interstate driving to work. Your sin nature may raise its ugly head when your in-laws come around. I don't know. It's about to be tax season and your sin nature may raise its ugly head with that one. Or maybe politics gets you out of fellowship. But you have a sin nature. And if you submit to your sin nature, if you allow your volition to choose that, well, once your sin nature seizes control, it'll turn to the lure of the cosmic system to fulfill its desires. Once your sin nature seizes control, it will turn to the lure of the cosmic system to fulfill its desires. The cosmic system is Satan's world, what Satan offers you. It's the spirit of the times, the zeitgeist. It's out there spinning around, and it's luring you. Come on over here. Do this. Come on over here. Try this. Here's a good time. Here's fun. This is what you need to be doing. And many a Christian has been sucked into this sort of stuff. Like a duck decoy. When a duck hunter's got the decoys out and he's quacking away and the duck flies over and sees the decoys and said, oh my, look, let's go down and join them. And bam, they get wasted. That's what happens to you. You get decoyed. You get diverted. Satan is really good at decoys and diversion in your life. And you can't let the lure of the cosmic system take control of you. In Galatians 5, 17, the flesh sets its desire against the spirit. The spirit sets its desire against the flesh. And these are in opposition to one another so you may not do the things you please. This is the battle you have every day. This is the fight that goes on in your life. If you're like me, if you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and you have a sin nature, your sin nature may even be on steroids. I don't know. I mean, that may be hopped up sin nature, but you have a sin nature. Now, some people get rid of the legalist. And I remember meeting a guy one time telling me he didn't sin. And the time we got through talking, he was so mad at me, he was sinning. Yeah, you got to sin, nature. But you may be a legalist. You may think you're a good person because you don't smoke, drink, chew, or run around with those that do. Or you may be a lascivious on the other end of the totem pole. You may be a wild child and when your sin nature gets in control, there's no telling what you're liable to do if you drink too much or you say too much or do too much. Sin natures have different trends and different patterns. And the hardest one to see is the legalistic person. Because the self-righteous legalistic person will judge you and hammer you and control you quicker than anyone if you let him. So here we have the sin nature, the flesh controlling, wanting to control your body, the spirit wanting to control your body. What this is talking about is the way you think, your thoughts, your motives and desires. If you let the sin nature take over, it will lure you into the cosmic system with no returning probably. But if you let the Holy Spirit control you, then he will lead you and guide you as a tutor and a mentor. As Jesus Christ, our Lord said, I'm going away, but I'll send my spirit and he'll be your tutor. And he will guide you into truth. And so you have this Holy Spirit living in you. But if you quench him and you grieve him, he can't do his job. That's why you have to rebound and put him back in control of your life. So again, Galatians 5, 17, the flesh sets its desire against the spirit. And the spirit against the flesh, these are battling. They're battling every day. Who's going to control your thoughts? And then the Bible goes on to say these are in opposition one to another so that you may not do the very things you want to do. The concept is the sin nature never, ever turns back to God. Once you let the sin nature get in control, it only ventures out deeper and deeper and deeper into sin and into evil. So in order to break the control of your sin nature, you must first recognize what's going on. You have to recognize the trends and the patterns of your sin nature. and what you're likely to do when you let your sin nature take control. And the only way you can do that is by the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit. The only way you can break control, once you submit to the sin nature, once your volition goes negative to God, you're trapped by the lure of the world, the flesh of the devil, and you sin, you fall into the trap. The only way to get out of it is for the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit to make you aware of what's happened. And if he convicts you, then you have to make a decision to confess your sin and return to the spiritual life. And this is where you allow the Holy Spirit to gain control once again. And listen, you may have to do this seven or eight times a day, maybe more. until you understand what's going on, until you get a hold of your life and your emotions and these desires that you have. This is a battle. This is what the Bible says. It's a battle. It's a war. It is. It's a war for your thoughts. So once you're convicted, you have to make the decision. I'm going to go to God. I'm going to confess my sin. I'm going to walk away from the sin. I'm going to let the Holy Spirit have control. But you know what? The sin may come back tomorrow. What do you do then? You confess it again and confess it again. Anytime you sin, you go to God and confess it. God's not counting sins. He's not got a bean counter out there saying, okay, now you've done this 23 times and I'm not going to forgive you for it anymore. That's not true. If we confess our sin, the Bible says he's faithful. He does it every time. He's just. He doesn't compromise his righteousness. He's faithful and just to forgive us of our sin and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness every time we do it. You may sin 20 times a day and confess your sin 20 times a day, and you'll get in and out of fellowship 20 times a day. But the idea is not to let the sin nature control your life over lengthy periods of time. You have to confess your sin. You have to get back in fellowship because if you fail to rebound, if you fail to recover, then you're opening the door to God's discipline because you quenched and grieved the Holy Spirit. There are some mandates in the Bible about that. In 1 Thessalonians 5, 19, don't quench the Holy Spirit. And in Ephesians 4.30, don't grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you're sealed until the day of redemption. That's the day you walk away from death into eternity. So you can grieve the Holy Spirit and you can quench him. Quenching him means to shut off his power, like taking a garden hose and crimping it so the water can't come out of it. Once you quench the Holy Spirit, he can't sustain your spiritual life and you grieve him. You grieve him, you understand that? So he doesn't cry, he doesn't get sad, but you grieve the Holy Spirit. He recognizes he's disappointed in you. He disapproves of what you're doing. Every bit of punishment, every bit of discipline that comes to us as believers from the Supreme Court of Heaven is always based on God's personal love for us. He loves you. He's not doing this to hurt you. He's doing this to deliver you, to get you to respond and recover. So it comes under warning discipline, it comes under intense discipline, and it comes under dying discipline. But if you fail to rebound and admit your sin, then it can result in unbearable suffering from the prolonged discipline of God. If you stay in the arrogant system long enough, you're going to be miserable. You're going to be miserable. You may already be miserable. And this may be the reason why. Oh, I pray that you will wake up and realize this. I pray you will take a look at yourself and see what's going on in your life because you have an option to rebound and get restored to fellowship. And you have the option to ignore what I'm telling you and ignore that. And the warning discipline will move into your life from in warning to intense discipline. maybe even dying discipline. But you can still rebound. You can still receive forgiveness. You can still be restored to fellowship if you will admit it to your Father. It always takes God's love to keep us in line. The material believer needs the love of God to discipline him, to keep him in line. We don't want to live and learn. We want to learn and then live. Live and learn means you make mistakes and learn from your mistakes. It's best not to make those mistakes, I promise you. Learn and live begins with rebound, and we are punished by God because we didn't use the divine solution. We quenched and grieved the Holy Spirit. We're not obeying the mandates of the spiritual life, so we're not learning and living. We're living and then learning the hard way. So the divine punishment from the integrity of God is administered with exactly the same divine love as is his divine blessing. God loves you. He will discipline you to correct you, to deliver you, to get you to see what's going on in your life. I pray you'll respond. I pray you'll listen. I pray you see yourself. Take a look in the mirror. See what's going on so you know who you really are. I hope you're listening. I hope you're responding, and I hope you'll stay in touch. Come back next Sunday, same time, same place, and learn some more and apply it into your life. That's my prayer. I hope you'll do that. If we can help, don't hesitate to go to the website and drop us a note. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Prepare to be impressed by the 2025 Honda CR-V Hybrid's unparalleled all-season performance and comfort. Our hosts take you on a journey through its comprehensive features, from charging ports to its hybrid system, making it an ideal choice for families and tech-savvy drivers alike. Discover the benefits of longer drives without frequent fuel stops. This episode showcases how the CR-V Hybrid can effortlessly fit into your lifestyle with its enhanced cargo capacity and the ability to handle Colorado's unpredictable weather. Before you visit your local Honda dealership, tune in to our perspective and let our review guide you in making an informed choice. For more insights and past car reviews, be sure to visit RushToReason.com and Drive-Radio.com.
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All right, one of those opportunities. We have a couple to do. What's your next one on the docket here?
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Yeah, so this is, again, a really competitive class that we're going to get into this next one, which is kind of that small SUV class. This is the 2025 Honda CR-V Hybrid, Dad. And so that market is really, really competitive. And folks, if you want to know all the different ones in there... encourage you to you know kind of go check them out um but this is no significant changes for 2025 folks they kind of redesigned the crv back in 2023 um this is the i guess kind of the middle tier data of the honda suv market right there's a little bit larger vehicles um in in this class for them fuel economy we just mentioned in our previous review 40 and 34 for an average of 37 dad this vehicle as price and we mentioned this is the all-wheel drive sport touring model 42605 so you get the hybrid system on it dad and you get kind of pretty much all the bells and whistles um that you would get on a crv dad essentially within this model and you're just over forty thousand dollars lots of touch i guess kind of soft touch material throughout it's got 39.3 cubic feet of cargo capacity behind its rear seat so again this is a technically a five passenger suv dad but really kind of four full-size adults can fit pretty easily but again almost 40 cubic feet of cargo room in the back which is really really phenomenal and one thing again dad we talked we talked about it with this hybrid technology You and I, when we do quite a bit of driving, we would be able to go a little over a week without fueling up this vehicle.
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That's huge.
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And that's something that can be said, especially for folks that are in the market for this car, Dad, which maybe moms, families, where fueling up is time. And maybe you forget, right? You're going from one kid event to the next.
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Right.
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And it's hard to do. And so being able to go longer without a massive price increase, Dad, it's a really, really great feature that I like. and I encourage folks to check it out. Honestly, we could sit here a lot. They've got lots of charging ports, auto dimming mirror, you know, 12-volt power outlets all throughout this car. I could sit here and kind of tell you all the different features, but we'd be here for forever. So I encourage folks that. Check it out. It's one of my more favorite of the small SUVs, especially with this hybrid dad and especially here in Colorado, with the all-wheel drive that was on this model. It makes it really great for all of the weather that we get here just because you can never tell in Colorado. So we encourage folks, check it out. Hedge your local Honda dealership. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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All right, before I let you go, too, for all of you listening, remember, we've got car reviews that go back a long time. So some of you may even be in the market for a new used car, wanting to know one from another. And that's a whole other topic, by the way, because a lot of it has to do with, you know, who owned the vehicle before, how it was maintained and so on. But in general, to find out, hey, what did we think of that car when it was new? We've got all those reviews out there as well. So, Richard, thanks. I appreciate it very much. I'll let you go.
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Sounds great.
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See you guys. All right. This is John Rush from Rush to Reason and Drive Radio. Thank you so much for listening. Check out more of our podcasts at RushToReason.com or Drive-Radio.com.
In this episode of Rush to Reason, John and Richard delve into the details of the newly released 2025 Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid. With its impressive fuel economy, spacious interior, and family-friendly features, this SUV stands out in the midsize SUV category. Richard shares his driving experience and insights on the vehicle's performance and practicality. Listeners get to explore the Grand Highlander's new Nightshade package, which adds a darker and more stylish theme to the already popular model. Join us as we discuss why this hybrid is an excellent choice for families looking for an efficient and reliable vehicle. Discover how the Grand Highlander combines traditional Toyota efficiency with modern design elements to create a versatile and comfortable driving experience. Don't miss out on this in-depth review and find out if the Grand Highlander Hybrid is the right fit for your needs.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Time of the week where we do some car reviews, Richard. And what have you driven lately?
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Yeah, I drove a really, well, I guess one of my more enjoyable cars, to be honest with you, of late. And that's for the value and just for a lot of things. And that's the 2025 Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid. And this was the nightshade package, which we'll kind of get into. As it sits at $56,818, again, for that hybrid. fuel economy 36 and 32 for an average of 34 and the reason i'm leading off with that is because that to me is one of the best selling features of this car and we've talked about this in the past right with toyota and their hybrid systems and just the hybrid um especially with fuel prices there the hybrid uh system is really second to none and and what we mean by that is just it works really well dad and it gives you an extra i don't know i would say 10 to potentially 20 percent of added range onto the vehicle just to that extra fuel economy it works really well it's simple to obviously simple to operate you don't have to do anything and then on the highlander itself dad so the grand highlander is basically a highlander just bigger right it gives you a little bit more room that third row is a little bit more spacious there's a little bit more room behind the third row. It's not of these large SUV variety data. It's still kind of that midsize SUV, but it's still a great value for the vehicle. And again, you have, it's got a, let me see here, the base hybrid is a 245 horsepower base hybrid engine. And this is second for the model year, Dad. It was introduced in 2024, but it's obviously 2025 now. It really is phenomenal. The interior apportionments are everything that you'd want. There's a bunch of cup holders, great center storage space for purses or for all of the kids' nonsense that you would say. When you have kids running around, it's got enough room in the middle row for Two booster seats or two kind of full-size seats. This model had the captain's chairs, which worked really nice. People could get back to that third row if they needed. And like I said, the fuel economy really is great on this hybrid. And you've driven the Highlanders in the past.
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Great car.
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And it's one of your more favorite kind of midsize SUVs.
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Yeah, great-sized car. It's positioned very well as far as in its class. In fact, I think, to your point, in the Grand Highlander being a little bit larger, I mean, it really is outside of probably the minivan choice or stepping up into a full-bore, you know, body-on-frame SUV. This is going to be one of your top choices for the money.
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It is that, and that nightshade, it sort of just kind of adds a little bit, it adds a darker theme, right? I don't have all of the effects as far as what it does, but it is exactly that. It kind of adds a little bit different and some darker texture to it and different features that way. But it's, again, like you say, that it's a really efficient vehicle. And what we mean by that, folks, is outside of the hybrid, just how it's designed. And it really is family-focused, family-centered. All of the controls are available for you. You've got heated and ventilated seats. I think you have a heated steering on this. You have a 360-degree... camera system. That's a really great feature. You've got a panoramic roof on this, on the vehicle, Dad. You also have the panoramic view monitoring system. Again, really a fun car. I enjoyed driving it. Owned a hybrid, or not a hybrid, owned an original Highlander, I should say, not the Grand Highlander before, Dad. And this extra room was really nice, but it didn't make the car feel that much bigger.
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Gotcha.
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Folks, if you're interested, head to your local Toyota dealer. Test drive, again, 2025 Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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This is John Rush from Rush to Reason and Drive Radio. Thank you so much for listening. Check out more of our podcasts at RushToReason.com or Drive-Radio.com.
A critical discussion unfolds regarding the content appropriateness of children’s shows, with Dana voicing concerns about overstepping boundaries during Gay Pride Month. On a lighter note, the episode delves into wild wonders like how a meatball the size of the human race would look and Meta's stride towards an emissions-free future via nuclear energy.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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A Florida man was in he got in trouble because he apparently was scamming elderly people out of money while already behind bars for scamming elderly people out of money. A 92-year-old dude from Sun City Center, Florida, is out $800,000. He got catfished by a 37-year-old dude who's behind bars. People have got to be... O.T. Swinton. He was arrested. He's been charged with multiple accounts of fraud. And this has happened like a million... People have got to be so careful with this stuff. Oh, my gosh. You just... You can't... I get so worried about these scams. A Florida woman deputy resigned after she was arrested for evading and driving a motorcycle with a fake tag that read, Chase them three. Oh, sorry. Chase them. Is that? Yeah, chase me. It looks like chase them three. Chase me. Well, they did. And they arrested her. And she went to the pokey. Just saying.
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It's time to finally unveil Ellen's monster makeover!
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Oh, it's uncanny. Ellen looked just like Jonathan Van Ness.
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Cookie Monster, Cookie, that is Jonathan Van Ness. Elmo, Cookie, are you ready to see my monster piece? Ready, Jonathan! Mama Bear, some runway music, please. Oh, yeah. People and monsters alike, a round of applause for the not-too-late show's newest monster, Alan! Ta-da! Woo! Alan Monster is wearing the latest in high monster fashion with a set of sleek horns, fluffy, fuzzy fur, all topped off with a monster honker. There's that!
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I had to look at who this dude is. I have no idea. Oh, he's a pilot for Kill Me Now. Anyway, it's just some dude. He's like an influencer. Steve, I really want to read what Steve put in Slack. Because there are. He goes, there's two. He caps locked two. T-W-O. There's two. I can't say that word, can I?
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No, not that word.
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Are you sure? Phallic. Thank you. Jokes in this clip. But he said the D word. Two. And then he caps locked it again and repeated it. Why is it even needed to throw in there?
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It's a Sesame Street clip.
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Right.
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Oh, my gosh. Like, yeah. Do you want to see my monster piece? Like, oh, yeah. No. Oh, man. No. When you make Steve weird about it, that says a lot, you know? Not like Steve's a freak or anything, but, you know, when you make Steve... Like, it's a kid's show, you know? Like, would you want your kids watching this? Would you want your nieces and nephews watching? No. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash, top of the second hour. Well, it's Gay Everything Month. Oh, I know. It was Memorial Day just a couple weeks ago. You get a day. Because apparently it's braver to talk about how much you like to have... intercourse and how you like to do it. That's apparently braver. Our society is. Where's the asteroid? Golly. So that was Sesame Street. What's the point of that? I mean, what do they think the point of it is? I mean, obviously, I'm sorry. That's grooming. Because you're... Here's why. You are... showcasing something that's literally entirely about genitals. It's not a lifestyle of how you have sex. Look, I don't care what adults do. But when you start going to this level, the reason I think that Kane and I have such a major problem with this is so we're Gen X. And yes, I'm on the younger end of the spectrum, but I'm not a millennial. And when we were young, growing up in the 90s, it was always behind closed doors. What someone does behind closed doors is not your business, things like that, right? It was something that I don't remember it being this aggressively pushed like this in society. And I think that... They're conflating activists are conflating people having an issue with it being pushed so aggressively like this, even towards kids and objection to what private individuals do in their own private time. Right. I think there's a there's a major difference and they conflate it so that they can victimize themselves. Nobody loves victimizing themselves more than gay activists. I mean, they want to be the queens of all victims. And that's what I think what's so hard for us to grasp because that's literally all we heard growing up. Oh, behind closed doors, right? What happens to my clothes? It's their business. It's not your business, whatever, whatever. And now it's like, no, no, no. Not only do you have to accept it, but you have to applaud it, cheer it, and all of that. That is way different from how we were raised. You know, like I don't sit here and go out and be like, oh, I shouldn't say this. You know what I mean? Like we don't sit here and talk about the stuff that we do because no manners and also nobody cares, right? Nobody cares. I don't know why these white gay activists think that they have to. And then they get upset like, what do you mean we can't talk about penises with your child? Well, that's not appropriate. Why do you hate gay people? Well, there's, no, that's not what we're talking about. You're conflating everything. It's just weird and it's aggravating and annoying. And you don't need to be doing this for kids. If you do this with kids, you can't get offended if we're being called a groomer because that's what you are. It's messed up. This is messed up. Yeah, take it back in the closet. Go back in the closet. Get the hell back in there. This is... I was telling Cain, a friend of mine, I don't want to out them. Well, I mean, you know, like, you know, publicly. But they consider themselves a gay conservative. And they got, a couple years ago, they got stuck in traffic because gay activists blocked the road. And they recorded themselves leaning out of their car, screaming, why can't you just be normal, F-A... You know, why can't you just be normal and go do normal FA stuff? And they were mad because they were made late to work. It's the whole thing is I just I don't understand what the protest is, what all of this is about. And Nike have to have a whole month of this. And now what the activists are mad because Target was like, the rainbow stuff isn't selling. Let's put the flag stuff in its place. And now they're all mad as though like USA merchandise is somehow is not inclusive of gay people. I don't I don't get it. But it's this is beyond. This is about when you're roping the kids into it. This isn't about acceptance. This is about brainwashing at this point. And these kids don't understand these concepts. I think it's abusive. They don't understand these concepts. Can't have video. Okay, they shut this road down. What is this? It's on our audio list, right? They shut this road down. I can't say what they were chanting, can I? Well, wait. If I can't say what they're chanting, that is so lame.
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But it's news.
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So they said that. Well, no, I can't say that. No, they did say honk if you love strippers, which I have no idea what that has to do with gay activist protests. I don't know. But they had an ambulance in Minneapolis. They had to do a detour because there were a group of people in thongs that blocked the road. And they created a blockade. It's the grain belt bridge. It was blocked for over 25 minutes during rush hour. And they blocked the bridge. And it was activists that were like in thongs. And they were screaming. I can't say something. They said we love this. And we love that. I can't say any of those things on air. And then they said something about strippers. Which I don't even understand what that was about. And... And I don't know. I don't know. I have a question. Yes, Cain.
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What if someone dies as a result of their ambulance being blocked by these thong-wearing protesters? Who do they hold accountable at that point? Who's held accountable?
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I don't know. I mean, I'd like to say the activists, but we all know apparently that that's never going to happen. Blocking traffic. You. OK, so our protest is aren't they supposed to be to attract sympathy and support? Isn't that what protests are for? So how did we go from that to protests are just about making everybody mad? If you I don't care what you're if you are protesting against clubbing baby seals. and you block me and rush our traffic, I will literally come out and club a baby seal to death myself as a protest against your protest. No, you won't. Oh, hell yes, I will. No. To hell with the seals at that point. Done with it. You can't do that. I mean, you can say that I can't, but I physically can. Whatever it is. If you're like, we don't want to shoot kittens out of a cannon and we're going to block traffic. We're protesting against shooting kittens out of a cannon. We're going to block traffic. I'm going to shoot a kitten out of a cannon now to spite you because you blocked me and rushed our traffic. You're not engendering sympathy for your cause. That's the whole point. You know, I mean, you're you're I mean, think about like in the 60s and, you know, the peaceful protests at lunch counters. And when you would see what, you know, what individuals endured, you know, you would you would it was a nonviolent protest. You would you would have sympathy and support that generated for that. And that's that's normally how protests go. You're not you're not supposed to just tick off everybody that you're trying to get support from. But I feel like these are remedial people we're dealing with here. They're not the brightest activists out there. They really aren't. So it's rainbow everything right now. Kel-Tec's Gen 3 Sub 2K, which they rolled out with just a month ago. And it's another game changer from Kel-Tec, which always makes really cool stuff. Incredibly neat stuff. Great quality. I mean, it's American parts, American labor, and everything is made right here in the U.S. of A., And it is the Sub 2K. This is the one that folds in half, which is awesome because it's like gun origami. You can just take it and fold it in half. It's awesome. Folding available in all these different calibers. Now even more versatile with the 10-millimeter chambering. Single twist and fold motion to that rotating forend. That's what folds it in half. And it deploys just as quickly and easily, zeroed and ready to rock. simple and reliable blowback design so you have ease and maintenance and consistent performance internal buffer for softer recoil lighter five pound trigger pull you have an integrated m lock and you got rails up top for accessories ideal for everything and it's made right here in the us of a learn more about caltechweapons.com innovation performance caltech k-e-l-t-e-c weapons.com tell them dana sent you and now all of the news you would probably miss it's time for dana's quick five I saw this last night as I was getting ready to go to bed. And you guys know how I love thinking of, or like love asking my husband insane questions right before I go to bed. And then he's just like, would you just please stop talking? God help me. Headline scientist calculates. I wanted to know this, the size of a meatball made from the entire human race. I was shocked because I thought if you took all the people on the planet and you made us into one giant meatball, that it would be huge meatball. It's not, though. I'm so disappointed. So if you made a meatball from the entire human race, it's absolutely weenie tiny. It's maybe two and a half times as tall as New York's Empire State Building, maybe around three times the size of Paris's Eiffel Tower. It is actually tiny. For 7.8 billion people, Juan, that's what it would look like. That's it. That's all the people on Earth in one meatball.
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So they're grinding this all up and putting this into a ball?
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Well, I'm just saying, if you wanted to know this, you know, maybe trivia night or something. That's interesting. I just, I can't believe this. Some people are like, is this, are you okay? Is this, no, no, no. But think about it. Like, what would it be if we were all in the ball? There you go. There's your answer right there. I'm shook. Shooketh. Let's see here. This is interesting. Meta signed a nuclear power deal with Constellation to fuel AI. Okay. So Meta Platform, they signed this contract with Constellation Energy for emissions-free nuclear energy from the Clinton Clean Energy Center in Clinton, Illinois. The parent company announced that it entered into a 20-year purchase agreement with them so they can get emissions-free nuclear energy so they can support their operations. That's wild. We're turning into the Matrix. It's the matrix. You're going to see people in pods and stuff being harvested. I'm saying a giant plume of Saharan dust is headed for. It's not just headed to Florida. It's headed for a significant portion of the United States. And it's going to sweep into Texas as well. Dust is carrying it. Wind's carrying it across the Atlantic. It's a great wonder of the weather world, but it's headed our way in days. And it's going to be weird and bad for allergies. Stick with us as we move. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. They make it so easy to get the medications that you need. No gatekeeping by Big Pharma. No gatekeeping from the government as well. And there was an executive order signed on May 12th to lower prescription costs so we can stop paying more than other countries. and you know you i mean there's you deserve medicines for fair prices without totally egregious markups uh and uh all family pharmacies offering a summer sale right now 20 off of your entire order and that's going to give you a little extra breathing room and their prices are already affordable first off right now through june they're offering 20 off site wide no insurance is required i mean they have licensed doctors in all 50 states you get fast shipping right to your door you can get your stuff in as little as two to three days If you're in a pinch, which I've absolutely done that, and they have come in clutch. And you can get everything that you need. Your day-to-day medications, antibiotics, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, everything. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and enjoy 20% off using promo code Dana20. Do not wait for permission to protect yourself and your family. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana20 to save 20%. The gay everything. It's the gay everything month. Again, Memorial Day gets a day. Veterans Day gets a day. But, you know. And then they did Air Canada. Can we talk about Air Canada for a minute? Oh, my gosh. It's the Terrence and Phillip airline. Okay. I need to read this tweet that they put up because I don't understand this at all. Okay. So... Actually, we might need Juan to literally show the tweet because I don't even know how to read this. It says, our first all minus 2SLGBTQIA plus flight. Okay, first off, what is that? Oh gosh, do I want to Google this? I don't want my algorithm to show me a bunch of gay stuff now. It doesn't even recognize it. I don't even know what this is. Why is it a minus 2SL?
SPEAKER 03 :
What?
SPEAKER 01 :
I don't know. It's just what it says. So, minus 2SLGBTQIA plus flight was a heartfelt celebration reflecting our unwavering commitment to inclusivity and equality in the air and on the ground. Can you fly the damn plane? That's all we care about. You know, are you able to fly the plane? See, this is the Air Canada thing. Watch.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was a bit of a range of emotions this morning, coming here and getting dressed for this flight. Are they Quebec? Oh, are they Quebec? Blah, blah, blah. Okay, great.
SPEAKER 02 :
Blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER 04 :
On purpose. Makes sense. We are doing the first ever, let me get that one straight because a few letters have been added to this one, 2S LGBTQIA plus flight ever in Canada.
SPEAKER 01 :
What is 2S?
SPEAKER 04 :
There's something in there that represents me as well. So it was a bit of joy having the opportunity to do this flight today. Okay, can you fly the plane?
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, I don't care what... I don't care. Can you fly the plane? Can you fly the plane? That's all I care about.
SPEAKER 03 :
Did you cover your mouth?
SPEAKER 01 :
I did.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, but I like to go to bed with the men. Okay, but that's... Are you going to be at, like, if we run into a bird, can you fly it out? Yeah, Lorraine says that's two-spirit. I still don't even understand what that... That means you're possessed. That's possession. You've got a devil. What? Yes, you're LGBTQ. That's what that means. Just I'm just curious why there's so much emphasis on that. And. Not, you know, other than that does Brian over the Dallas Cowboys. A lot of people were criticizing him and they just need to shut up their mouths. He slammed the NFL as a gay pride post resurfaced. So it was an older post from 2021. It was a 30 second video. Remember the video where they're like football is gay. Football is lesbian. Football is beautiful. Football is queer. Football is transgender. Football is for everyone. And he had said, these are wild statements to make. And he goes, I'm going to probably tell my boys that football is none of these things. I have nothing against gays, but this is far from right. Go does Bryant. Yes. And he is. I mean, he's right. That was a stupid thing that they put out. And, of course, you know, the activists immediately. They're like, gay people are persecuted. Well, shut up. No, they're not. You know where they're being persecuted? In Gaza. Oh, what? And a lot of these countries that you think are so much better and a lot of these nations that aren't their own countries that you think are so much better than the United States. All of the people out there with the picnic blankets and the Gazan flag that think that they wouldn't be thrown off a roof the second they landed. Come on.
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Dive deeper into the political theater of Washington D.C., where budget battles and ideological clashing converge on the debate over the debt ceiling. Discussants critically examine the role and influence of key political players, focusing on Rand Paul's steadfast adherence to conservative principles amidst growing national debt. Moving beyond politics as usual, this dialogue also explores how communication and leadership style play crucial roles in governance, as illustrated by Trump's brash approach contrasted with Paul's reserved, issue-driven legacy.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, the main thing that I object to is raising the debt ceiling $4 or $5 trillion. That's an indication that we'll borrow that much. It's an indication that we'll put the debt on the back burner. We'll have no more discussion of it for a year or two. And really, we're locked in a year right now where in March of this year, most of the Republicans, not me, voted to continue the Biden spending levels in March. So we're operating under a continuing resolution, which originated as Biden spending levels. You remember Republicans saying, Bidenomics, Biden inflation, Biden this, Biden that. Well, they voted for that in March.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, they did. You know, I'm going to tell you something. Rand Paul is not wrong. And you can get mad at him for being correct all you want to, but it doesn't make him not wrong. That's the situation in which we find ourselves. We're talking about this bill because now it's in the Senate. We told you this was coming. The timeline for all of this, that it was going to be happening this way. They're going to be fighting it out in the Senate. And then we're going to see what we get. If anything, I don't know. Oh, man. I'm not happy with it. You guys are well aware of this. But the problem that I have right now. Is everybody going after Rand Paul when he has been one of the realest dudes? Could you could you ask for a realer dude in the Senate? I mean, we've got a lot of bums in the Senate. I got to be honest with you. There are some serious bums in the Senate and Rand Paul ain't one of them. And I, you know, I just, I need everybody to lay off him because he's always been a real one. And I don't, you guys know, I hate politicians. I mean, I don't like hate them, but I don't like a lot of them. Does that, that makes sense? Yeah, that's, that's good. So we're going to, we're going to get into some of this because you guys know what the bill says, because I've told you, we've gone over all of that with you, what the bill says, what it's, what is in there, what isn't. So, uh, You guys are well aware of every aspect of it. Again, though, you are raising the debt ceiling. You're raising it. You're adding to the debt. And the tax cuts are temporary. They're temporary. They're not permanent. And they're not even all-encompassing. There's not a lot of them. I mean, it's a modest amount. So... You know, I think all of the criticisms, if I'm raising the debt ceiling, my gosh, I want mondo mondo tax cuts. I want major tax cuts if I'm raising the debt ceiling. But here's the thing. If you're reducing spending and giving tax cuts, you don't have to raise the debt ceiling. That's what nobody wants to talk about. You know why they want to raise the debt ceiling? It's because they want to spend more of what they don't have. And they could just stop spending all of this other nonsense. But heaven forbid they do that. And so I will say, so POTUS went after, I think this was a mistake on POTUS's part. And I'm going to say it again. If anybody just joining thinks that I'm going to be like one of these flash in the pan Johnny come lately's that tries to ingratiate myself so far up the backside of the government in a very unconstitutional betrayal of the animating spirit of liberty with which this country was founded. Clearly, you're new here. Just just FYI, we call balls and strikes because all of these politicians change out. The thing that's permanent is liberty, the Constitution and the will of the people. That is the only thing that's consistent. And liberty is the only thing that is even a situational permanence, depending on how voters vote. So I think Trump was wrong to go after Rand Paul because Rand Paul has been one of the animating deliverers of his agenda. He has delivered, he has helped make Trump's agenda a conservative one. And when it's good legislation, Rand Paul will cut you to get it passed. So he went He said, quote, Rand Paul has very little understanding of the BBB, especially the tremendous growth that is coming. He loves voting on everything. He thinks it's good politics, but it's not. The BBB is a big winner. He votes no on everything. He never has any practical or constructive ideas. I don't even know what that means. His ideas are actually crazy. Losers. The people of Kentucky can't stand him. This is a big growth bill. Well, they can't stand him because he's overwhelmingly popular. This is one of the things, too, that I think I want to look up. Quick thing here. Because Trump's got to be careful in saying stuff like this. The reason I say that is because when he was criticizing Massey, Massey in that district got more votes than Trump. Rand Paul's the same in Kentucky. I'm just saying you got to be careful with saying stuff like that. You can you can. I'm totally fine with like going after lawmakers. And, you know, if you're trying to get them to vote a certain way. But I'm going to tell you something. If you want to be a border and badass, then you need to get Congress to go along with you without saying this kind of stuff. And I say this as somebody who, unlike the other people out there, I actually know Donald Trump. I introduced Donald Trump to a lot of conservative activists. I introduced him at CPAC. He's been on my radio show all the time. I know the family. I just don't feel like I got to constantly parade it around on social media for clicks because it feels whorish. And I've never done that. I'm more interested in everybody out there that I meet with, that I talk to. I talk to all of you guys every single day. That being said... So this idea that if you disagree with something, like one thing that someone does, then that undermines like, you know, I'm so tired of it. I'm just so tired of that deadbeat progressive mindset. And that's what it is. It's a deadbeat progressive mindset from people who've contributed nothing. That being said. There's you've got to be able to leverage your power and get people to do what you need to do without dragging it out publicly like this, because I don't think that this is a good look for POTUS. I don't. It's not a good look to go after the most stalwart people that you have, because when Trump has proposed, especially with the judiciary, a lot of people forget how hardcore Rand Paul went on a lot of these judicial picks that Trump had. There were some even some people that pretend to be like Maga today. that were really critical of Trump's judicial picks because he had to reshape the judiciary the second half of his first term. And a lot of people thought that some of his picks were a little bit too conservative and he was getting some heat over it. Well, guess what? In the Senate, people like Rand Paul went to town on POTUS's behalf for that. And so people have really short memories. They have very short memories and they're forgetting a lot of the stuff You would not even have some of these people in the judiciary without people like Senator Rand Paul going to bat for them publicly and behind the scenes. So let's just lay that all out right there. The other thing is that if you're going to be a boardroom badass, part of that is being able to replicate those results in DC, which is one of the reasons why people voted for him. POTUS to take that mentality and replicate it in D.C. Get these lawmakers to do what you need them to do, because with the moment and I say this is someone who does this. The moment you take it public, you you've lost behind the scenes. The moment you take it public, the pressure, the public pressure campaign is the next step when you fail privately. Now. It's not the first step anybody should make in any kind of negotiation, and anyone who knows anything about negotiations will tell you that. That is the next step when privately doesn't work. So this suggests to me that he's not able to make his case convincingly enough to get these people to go and add to the debt ceiling. And I don't care who you are. This bill is a giant turd sandwich. It is. I've heard every argument. I understand it more thoroughly than the people who are criticizing me for going against it. I understand this bill six ways to Sunday. I've read the entire damn thing. I've written about it several times up on Substack. We've talked about it on air. I've talked to lawmakers about it. I've consulted with other people about this bill. It is what it is. It's a giant piece of feces. It is what it is. I've heard all the excuses that I've heard from Republicans for 20 years. These are the same Republicans who promised you that they were going to repeal Obamacare and they never did. I've heard it all. Now, I'm all about strategy and I'm completely open to being persuaded to that. But it's not my responsibility to persuade myself. It's the other people with the opposing ideas, their responsibility to persuade me and all of you out there. And if they're not able to do that, if they're not able to do that, if they can't do it successfully, I guarantee you that going public and calling someone a loser is definitely not going to do it. So Rand Paul paid the cost to be to be the boss on conservatism. He did. So I'm just let's just get that out of the way. And he doesn't vote no on everything. That's I mean, not even remotely accurate. And I don't know what's crazy wanting to save people money. I think it's I guess it's crazy to expect lawmakers to. to actually hold fast to the promises that they make to the people. I know that everybody gets stars in their eyes, and not everybody, but a lot of people. They get stars in their eyes with some of these politicians, and they forget that you are their boss. They work for you. I don't care what they bring to the table. I don't care about their star power. I don't care how much money they have in the bank. I don't care how they dress, who they screw, what they do. I don't care. What are they doing for us? They work for us in Dove. And so with this, I just, I get so tired of this. And look, I was there, co-founded the modern day Tea Party movement. I get it. I know a lot of people said I was a purist. I wasn't a purist and you're not a purist either. Don't fall for that old communist argument. They act like, oh my gosh, if you want a modest cut, then you're a purist. No, by God, if you run on the platform of cutting spending and delivering on tax cuts, Is it our fault, the voters, for believing it? You tell me, if a politician promises you that he's going to cut your taxes and he's going to reduce spending so that your children and your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren don't have the sort of Damocles that is the debt dangling over their heads every day, are you the baddie for expecting them to deliver on that promise? Are you a squish because you're expecting people that made promises to deliver on those promises? No, you're not. It's rhetorical. It's stupid to even entertain that as a legitimate premise. Come on. So this – I think going after people who are stalwart allies to the Constitution and to your agenda, I think that that is – A bad move. A bad move. It's not a good look. So we're going to dive into this. And we're also going to get into some of the latest on immigration. I have it as dims. It's Gay Everything Month. We have an ad from Canada Air that might make you feel super confident about flying with Canada Air. So we're going to we're going to dive into that. And we're also going into some of the terrorist stuff. I literally have that down here as terrorist stuff. Now, here's why I say it, because I have a whole bunch of it. It's all related under this umbrella. I just before I leave, let me leave you with this tweet. NBC tweeted this. And I want you to tell me what sticks out to you. Here was their sentence. Lone wolf attacks on Jewish Americans in Boulder and D.C. highlight the difficulties in securing public spaces. Well, three words. Lone wolf attacks. What do you notice about the attacks part of that, Cain?
SPEAKER 10 :
I notice that attacks seems to be plural.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's weird. Yeah. Because lone wolf would suggest singular.
SPEAKER 17 :
And it also isn't the same wolf. Right. So, Cain, one more question for you before we get a break.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 17 :
So, if you have multiple lone wolves doing the same kind of attacks... Is it still a lone wolf?
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm going to say no. I'm going to err on the side of science here. That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 17 :
I saw this last night as I was getting ready to go to bed and you guys know how I love thinking of, or like love asking my husband insane questions right before I go to bed. And then he's just like, would you just please stop talking? God help me. Headline scientist calculates. I wanted to know this, the size of a meatball made from the entire human race. I was shocked because I thought if you took all the people on the planet and you made us into one giant meatball, that it would be huge meatball. It's not, though. I'm so disappointed. So if you made a meatball from the entire human race, it's absolutely weenie tiny. It's maybe two and a half times as tall as New York's Empire State Building, maybe around three times the size of Paris's Eiffel Tower. It is actually tiny. For 7.8 billion people, Juan, that's what it would look like. That's it. That's all the people on Earth in one meatball.
SPEAKER 10 :
So they're grinding this all up and putting this into a ball?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I'm just saying, if you wanted to know this, you know, maybe trivia night or something. That's interesting. I just, I can't believe this. Some people are like, is this, are you okay? Is this, no, no, no. But think about it. Like, what would it be if we were all in the ball? There you go. There's your answer right there. I'm shook. Shooketh. Let's see here. This is interesting. Meta signed a nuclear power deal with Constellation to fuel AI. Okay. So Meta Platform, they signed this contract with Constellation Energy for emissions-free nuclear energy from the Clinton Clean Energy Center in Clinton, Illinois. The parent company announced that it entered into a 20-year purchase agreement with them so they can get emissions-free nuclear energy so they can support their operations. That's wild. We're turning into the Matrix. It's the matrix. You're going to see people in pods and stuff being harvested. I'm saying a giant plume of Saharan dust is headed for. It's not just headed to Florida. It's headed for a significant portion of the United States, and it's going to sweep into Texas as well. Dust is carrying it. Wind's carrying it across the Atlantic. It's a great wonder of the weather world, but it's headed our way in days. And it's going to be weird and bad for allergies. Stick with us. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. They make it so easy to get the medications that you need. No gatekeeping by Big Pharma. No gatekeeping from the government as well. And there was an executive order signed on May 12th to lower prescription costs so we can stop paying more than other countries. And, you know, you deserve medicines for fair prices without totally egregious markups. And All Family Pharmacy is offering a summer sale right now, 20% off of your entire order. And that's going to give you a little extra breathing room. And their prices are already affordable. First off, right now through June, they're offering 20% off site-wide. No insurance is required. I mean, they have licensed doctors in all 50 states. You get fast shipping right to your door. You can get your stuff in as little as two to three days online. If you're in a pinch, which I've absolutely done that, and they have come in clutch. And you can get everything that you need. Your day-to-day medications, antibiotics, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, everything. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and enjoy 20% off using promo code Dana20. Do not wait for permission to protect yourself and your family. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana20 to save 20%.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Solomon entered the US three years ago on a tourist visa, but he has applied for asylum about a month later. And some asylum cases can take six years to process, so he was allowed to stay here and wait.
SPEAKER 13 :
Nancy, what would have happened to Solomon under Trump's policies?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, the Trump administration, John, has raised the asylum threshold, so he could still enter the country on a tourist visa today, but he might not be allowed to even begin the asylum process. The Biden administration also granted him a temporary two-year work permit, so he was able to earn a living here in the U.S. while he waited for his asylum claim to be processed. And it's unlikely, under Trump's immigration policies, that he would have been granted that work permit.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, I bet that one reporter's the hardest hit. Hardest hit. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. And 347 is the stream. And you can also find us over at Rumbles where the chat is for now. So this dude, the media, didn't seem to like it. They were discussing the immigrant status of him. This guy who was in the jihadi who was in the country illegally. And I wanted to pull this story. This is up here too. There are a lot of these that are popping up now. And to go back to what we said with NBC, NBC had this tweet where they were saying that, well, we got lone wolf attacks on Jewish Americans in Boulder. It's not just in Boulder, D.C. It's in Michigan. It's in several other areas. But lone wolf, their, their focus, two things with this NBC piece. Number one, lone wolf attacks is an idiotic phrase because if you have guys, we got to talk to talk about this, like they're Sesame street. Okay. So if you have, yeah, old Sesame street, not all like the transy, you know, teaching your kids about sexy times, Sesame street, um, Imagine you have several different wolves and the wolves are all doing the same thing. You wouldn't say, look at that lone wolf and that lone wolf. They're not lone wolves anymore. It's a pack. It's organized. So that's NBC's first mistake. Their second mistake is that they say, well, this actually highlights the difficulties in securing public spaces. Hmm. No. Bless your sweet, sweetie, little bitty, little bitty hearts. No, no. The problem is you're not going to be able to secure any public space if you don't secure your terrorism issue. And they said lone wolf attacks. So it's not any, it's not lone wolves, not lone wolves anymore. Okay. And securing public spaces is Well, you start with securing the border and securing what comes into the country that then trickles down to the public spaces. It's not rocket science, okay? It's learning, understanding cause and effect. This guy, for instance, this story, they didn't even get mentioned, a Michigan terrorist. They said he was a Michigan anti-Semite. He was plotting to massacre kids at a Jewish daycare, and he tried to illegally buy guns after hurling threats at preschoolers. What do you think his name is, Cain? Do you think it's Timothy Anderson?
SPEAKER 10 :
That sounds really American.
SPEAKER 17 :
Do you think it's John Murphy? I'm just saying this. The reason why is because if you have a name like this and I don't care where you come from, I'm going to look at you different. His last name is Choker. Hassan Choker. Hassan Choker. was out on bail when he drove through the parking lot outside of Detroit, shouted anti-Semitic slurs, and threatened parents and children as they were dropping off of their kids. This was a couple of years ago in December. The reason it's back in the news is because his trial started. Why are you putting him on trial? Were you in the car? Yes. Were you the one threatening to kill kids? Yes. Are you a terrorist? Yes. Okay, then. Goodness. They said his attempted gum purchase was part of what authorities believe was a larger plot. He was going to follow through his menacing threats against parents and preschoolers as they were walking in. And I was also looking at the way he was trying to shoulder his gun and he looks like a stooge. I mean, good night. Anyway, he drove to a gun shop after he went screaming about the Jews in Dearborn, his hometown, which some people call Little Mogadishu. And he tried to buy three guns, but the gun, the FFL was like, he also lied on his gun application. Don't charge him for that because I was told you can't charge people for things like that because of Hunter Biden. I was told that. Who's the guy who was a Republican and he's on Fox now? Trey, what's his face? Trey Gowdy. He was like, well, we can't charge Hunter Biden. That's just petty. Is it a crime or not? Jiminy Christmas. And so while awaiting the results of his background check when he was trying to buy his gun, Choker stated that, quote, it ain't a fair fight out there. And then he said he was going to even the score. He's saying this at the gun store and said, even the playing field. I'm going to even the playing field real soon, brothers, real soon, according to court documents. The gun store owner. heard this and was like, what? And he wouldn't even wait for the background check to come back. He's like, yeah, I can't sell you this. And it came back and the guy was denied. So, you know, but FFLs have that discretion. And so they have him inside. And I mean, he's crazy. He's posted all kinds of stuff on Instagram. He's not crazy. I don't think he's crazy. I think he's just a terrorist. I think he's an anti-Semitic terrorist. I don't think he's crazy. I think he's an evil POS. And he's only going to face up to 10 years in prison. He's wanting to kill people. He's only going to be in prison for 10 years. This is where... I think that our penalties aren't strong enough. I actually think public executions, I'm not joking, I love the idea of public executions, and I think that people like this, I think it would benefit society for them, for all of us to be able to see their demise. That's one of my biggest gripes, is that we took that away. I'm not kidding. I'm not saying this for the show. I actually truly wholeheartedly believe this. I really do. And you make a good point. Say the point that you just made about calling him crazy in Slack. This is a good point.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because calling him crazy would give him an insanity defense that he just does not qualify for.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah. It's definitely... This isn't a major issue. It's a major issue. Can I also say, too... You hear the phrase the woke right a lot, and it's a real thing. I've been talking about this for years before this phrase came into vogue. I don't call it the woke right, though. It's just identity politics. There is this – there's this – surge of belief within certain demos on the right where and i've seen it on social media where people are adopting this it's not just like being a critical of israel israel's government it's their people are just like freely being anti-semitic based on i have no idea what it's a form of identity politics when you play into identity politics you're no different from the left I've written about this endlessly. It is the exact same thing as the left does. But some people on the right like to think that they're somehow more virtuous because they identify as being on the right. But you're literally following the playbook of the left. And you're engaging in that cultural Marxism. This idea that... Like some of the attacks on people who are Jewish and some of the words and the sentiments that are being shared. It's really weird. And I think all of this stuff here, all of it's coming together in a weird soup of uneasiness. I just don't like it. I mean, I've got a couple of other headlines with regards to this. We've got... Yeah, the Hassan Choker. I mean, just by the way, his name alone, seriously. The BBC, for instance, because I've been seeing a lot about this with people on the right, where they buy into everything that Pallywood, the Hamas entities put out. So there was a story that came out where they said it came out of Gaza, and it showed shootings at an aid distribution near Rafah. And, oh, my gosh, all these people were killed, et cetera. And basically it was, oh, can you believe Israel's just gunning these people down? Well, guess what? The BBC had to completely retract their story after they wrote these stories saying it was the IDF firing on Gazans at an aid site. It was entirely false. They did not retract it until 24 hours later after it fed all of this insanity. It was entirely false. I saw people on the right reacting to this. Buying into it. So it's just wild. Our Rumble stream went down. Coincidentally, right, as I was talking about this. Interesting. No, I don't believe in coincidences. I don't. I also think, are you comfortable with people in government agencies owning distribution platforms? No, nor am I. I mean, no offense, but like when you're in the FBI, I think maybe you got to de-invest, divest a little bit. Dana, you can't say these things. They're unpopular. And also you'll get like suppressed further. I don't have enough middle fingers. I fought more evil. So anyway, I just think that's very all interesting. So the BBC ran this and there were people on the right that went through it. People like Glenn Greenwald were believing this. Can I say something about Glenn Greenwald? Because I posted something about this last night on Substack. I'm not going to spend like any more than this on it. But I got to be real honest. People on the right, I get it that they're hard up for a messiah, even though they play into the cultural identity politics sometimes and they ignore the one that we actually have that gives us grace from all of that. But whatever. Some people want to lock themselves into the plantation of that sort of thought slavery. I digress. There was a video of Glenn Greenwald who went full Hunter Biden. Don't watch it. I didn't watch it. I saw it fly by on X. He was on his hands and knees debasing himself with a male prostitute while there was an apparent meth pipe in the background on the bed behind him. And that came out over the weekend because he reposted it from his own ex account. So I don't know where this whole people were leaking it out. He literally reposted it, whether it was by accident or what. It was quickly removed. But the Internet's forever. I don't care how good of a journalist people think Greenwald is. I think he's kind of overrated. He's been dining out on the one scoop for like the better part of 10 years. So, you know, take that for what it's worth. There are a lot of people who are trying to ingratiate themselves with the click audience. And so they're like fawning him and lavishing him with praise. But for the real, you know, he's been dining out on that same thing. I question the judgment of anybody who adopts slash buys kids and then brings them brings a male prostitute into their home where their kids live. And then engages in risky behavior while recording it while there's drugs involved, apparently, which he'd never denied. And he didn't deny it. I mean, I linked all this on my sub stack. He was basically saying, oh, we'll ignore it, blah, blah, blah. Heterosexual parents would not get a pass for this type of behavior. And Glenn Greenwald should not get a pass for this type of behavior just because he's gay. Just because you're gay, it's not an inoculation from the consequences of any kind of idiotic, potentially child-endangering behavior. And some were defending him by saying that the Jews leaked the video as retribution for the way he reported on Iran. I'm not kidding you. And if you follow that logic, that means I guess the Jews had to set up Greenwald's illicit tryst and then suspected drug use was entirely staged, staged also by the Jews pre-report. So the Jews could stockpile ammo as retribution for his reporting. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in the past two days, to be honest with you. It's almost as dumb as bringing a male prostitute into your home and romping around on camera with a suspected meth or crack pipe in the background. The right is not so short on independent journalists and thought leaders and talking heads that he's some sort of sacred cow whose illicit activities need defending, okay, for the sake of some sort of fake devotion to a principle that's not honestly shared. And I don't think that we should be in the market of infantilizing middle-aged men, a la Hunter Biden, by helping them dodge accountability. Having a big tent doesn't mean that pretending any of this is cool. Because it's not. If you're screwing prostitutes and smoking dope in the house where you brought your young adopted kids, you're a garbage parent. You're a garbage person, gay or straight. So can everybody stop throwing themselves at the altar of want to be popular and defending this? Thank you. We got a lot more on the way. It's always good to have diversity with your weapons array. I mean, for real. You carry different calibers, right? You have blades. This is for – I like to look at it like this because I always carry a gun, and I have zero issue. I seriously will sleep like a baby knowing I have the ability to use lethal, lethal force against anyone who decides to FFO with me and my family's security and our lives. And so to that effect, there are some times when you're – You are dealing with municipal restrictions and private property restrictions and all this other stuff. And as a result of that, you're disarmed and maybe you have zero protection. Well, you don't have to have zero protection. I mean, we all know the crime rate. This is where Burna gun comes in. And this is also a great idea for college students who are under the age of being able to carry a handgun but still live on their own. Burna, what it does is it shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. And they have several different versions. They have a rifle. But for this, you're going to look at the CL, which is the compact launcher, and the SD. CL is brand new. It's 38% smaller than the SD and even more compact. And the SD is their biggest selling one. Everything proudly made right here in the U.S. of A. And it's legal in all 50 states. There's no background checks. There's no waiting permit. It can be shipped right to your door. And it doesn't care about stupid gun-free zone signs. And the thing is that with, like, stun guns and that, you maybe have, like, one or two rounds. But with the Berna, you have five rounds. So this gives you... an ability to protect yourself, an instrument with which to protect yourself when everything else is working against you to make you defenseless. Visit Burna.com slash Dana and check out the new Burna C-L-B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana Burna. Ready when you are.
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Sans through the hourglass. So are the days of the United States.
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With conservative political views, 51 to 45 percent when it comes to excellent versus poor. And I don't think the Democrats would have expected that.
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I don't know, man. I didn't need a poll to know they were unwell. Just drive around and see someone wearing a mask in their car. And you know who they're voting for. And you know they're not OK.
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It's true. I mean, there was a study done on the happiness level. One thing I've noticed is a lot of people on the left are absolutely blanking miserable. They always have a grievance. Always have a grievance. Every day. Every day. And it's like more than just complaining about a little thing. Like Kane and I were just complaining about the weather right now because the storm is rolling in. And we're like, oh, my gosh, our heads are going to blow off. It's more than stuff like that. It's like every day. Have you noticed this? They have an existential crisis. Every day. It is exhausting being these people. It's exhausting watching these people. David Mamet, who's going to be on the show tomorrow. He's, well, this is what he compared Democrats to. Can we do that audio, somebody 22? Let's hit it.
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And everything in the Democrats' playbook is denial, which takes all of a person's mental energy. It's no different than a dysfunctional family. If you have a family and dad is a pedophile, the problem is not that dad is a pedophile, but the problem for everyone in the family is they have to deny that dad is a pedophile, because if they face it, the family as they know it is going to fall apart and they don't know what comes next. That's horrific. It's legitimate, but it's horrific. That's where the Democrats are now.
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I mean, if anybody's going to get it, and David Mamet's been, he's been in the conservative camp for a long time. I've got his books on my bookshelf. I've read them. And he's, I got to know him through my late employer and dear friend, Andrew Breitbart, because Andrew knew David. And Pulitzer Prize winner, screenwriter, like an actual... legit, really good writer so good with dialogue. He's so good with dialogue, which is the I think it's the hardest thing to write. Honestly, in in of all the writing. I think it's dialogue to sound Anyway, he gets it. And he a lot of his central a lot of his focus and a lot of his themes and characters, it focuses on the working man. And he's always been an active participate. I don't know how to say it like an active participant yet observe, you know, an observer in this. He really gets it. And he's right with us. And this is turning a lot of young men off. We're going to talk a lot about this. We got the latest with the bill. We got all kinds of stuff. Stick with us. Second hour is right on the way. Go nowhere. Nobody knows what's going to happen with our economy. We're apparently just going to add tons of debt and raise the debt ceiling. Who knows? All I know is this. Gold and silver have stood the test of time. For generations, smart investors turned to precious metals as a hedge during periods of economic instability. I'm one of them. I'm a smart investor too. Because I get it. They offer real security, hard assets. Right now, you can get the free 2025 gold and silver kit from GoldCo. They break down legit everything you need to know about how precious metals can fit into your financial strategy. And if you qualify, they'll match your investment with unlimited bonus silver, real actual physical silver with no taxes and no penalties. It's all about being prepared. Don't panic. Just be a Be prepared. Don't focus on the wrong P. Not panic. Be prepared. And have confidence in uncertain times. Visit danalikesgold.com and join the thousands of people who have called Goldco, the number one rated gold company. And you could get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit. You could also qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. It's danalikesgold.com.
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It's time to finally unveil Alan's Monster Makeover. Yeah!
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It's uncanny. Alan looked just like Jonathan Van Ness.
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Cookie Monster, Cookie, that is Jonathan Van Ness. Elmo, Cookie, are you ready to see my monster piece? Ready, Jonathan. Mama Bear, some runway music, please.
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Oh, yeah.
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People and monsters alike, a round of applause for the not-too-late show's newest monster, Alan. Alan Monster is wearing the latest in high monster fashion with a set of sleek horns, fluffy, fuzzy fur, all topped off with a monster honker.
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I had to look at who this dude is. I have no idea. Oh, he's a, kill me now. Anyway, it's just some dude. He's like an influencer. Steve, I really want to read what Steve put in Slack. Because there are. He goes, there's two. He caps locked two. T-W-O. There's two. I can't say that word, can I?
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No, not that word.
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Are you sure? Phallic.
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Thank you.
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Jokes in this clip. But he said the D word. Two. And then he caps locked it again and repeated it. Why does it even need to throw in there?
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It's a Sesame Street clip.
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Right. Right.
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Oh, my gosh. Like, yeah. Do you want to see my monster piece? Like, oh, yeah. No. Oh, man.
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No, I don't.
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When you make Steve weird about it, that says a lot, you know? Not like Steve's a freak or anything, but, you know, when you make Steve, like, it's a kid's show, you know? Right. Like, would you want your kids watching this? Would you want your nieces and nephews watching? No. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash, top of the second hour. Well, it's Gay Everything Month. Oh, I know it was Memorial Day just a couple weeks ago. You get a day because apparently it's braver to talk about how much you like to have intercourse and how you like to do it. That's apparently braver. Our society. So where's the asteroid? Golly. So that was Sesame Street. What's the point of that? I mean, what do they think the point of it is? I mean, obviously, I'm sorry. That's grooming. Because you're, here's why. You are showcasing something that's literally entirely about genitals. It's not a lifestyle of how you have sex. Look, I don't care what adults do. But when you start going to this level, the reason I think that Kane and I have such a major problem with this is is so we're Gen X. And yes, I'm on the younger end of the spectrum, but I'm not a millennial. And when we were young, growing up in the 90s, it was always behind closed doors. What someone does behind closed doors is not your business, things like that, right? It was something that I don't remember it being this aggressively pushed like this in society and it's I think that they're conflating activists are conflating people having an issue with it being pushed so aggressively like this even towards kids and objection to what private individuals do in their own private time, right? I think there's a there's a major difference and they conflate it so that they can victimize themselves. Nobody loves victimizing themselves more than gay activists. I mean, they want to be the queens of all victims. And I that's what I think what's so hard for us to grasp, because that's literally all we heard growing up. Oh, behind closed doors. Right. What happens, Michael? Is this their it's their business. It's not your business, whatever, whatever. And now it's like, no, no, no. Not only do you have to accept it, but you have to applaud it, cheer it and all of that. That is way different from how we were raised. You know, like I don't sit here and go out and be like, oh, I shouldn't say this. You know what I mean? Like we don't sit here and talk about the stuff that we do because no manners and also nobody cares, right? Nobody cares. I don't know why these white gay activists think that they have to. And then they get upset. Like, what do you mean? We can't talk about penises with your child. Well, that's not appropriate. Why do you hate gay people? Well, there's no, that's not what we're talking about. You're conflating everything. It's just weird and it's aggravating and annoying. And you don't need to be doing this for kids. If you do this with kids, you can't get offended if we're being called a groomer because that's what you are. It's messed up. This is messed up. Yeah, take it back in the closet. Go back in the closet. Get the hell back in there. This is... I was telling Kane, a friend of mine, I don't want to out them. Well, I mean, you know, like, you know, publicly. But they consider themselves a gay conservative. And they got in a couple of years ago, they got stuck in traffic because gay activists blocked the road. And they recorded themselves leaning out of their car screaming, why can't you just be normal? F a. You know, why can't you just be normal and go do normal F a stuff? And they were mad because they were made late to work. It's the whole thing is I just I don't understand what the protest is, what all of this is about. And Nike have to have a whole month of this. And now what the activists are mad because Target was like, the rainbow stuff isn't selling. Let's put the flag stuff in its place. And now they're all mad as though like USA merchandise is somehow is not inclusive of gay people. I don't I don't get it. But it's this is beyond. This is about when you're roping the kids into it. This isn't about acceptance. This is about brainwashing at this point. And these kids don't understand these concepts. I think it's abusive. They don't understand these concepts. Can't have video. Okay, they shut this road down. What is this? It's on our audio list, right? They shut this road down. I can't say what they were chanting, can I? Well, wait, if I can't say what they're chanting, that is so lame.
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But it's news.
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So they said that, well, no, I can't say that. They did say honk if you love strippers, which I have no idea what that has to do with gay activist protests. I don't know. But they had an ambulance in Minneapolis. They had to do a detour because there were a group of people in thongs that blocked the road. And they created a blockade. It's the Grain Belt Bridge. It was blocked for over 25 minutes during rush hour. And they blocked the bridge. And it was activists that were like in thongs and they were screaming. I can't say something. They said, we love this and we love that. I can't say any of those things on air. And then they said something about strippers, which I don't even understand what that was about. And... And I don't know. I don't know. I have a question. Yes, Cain.
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What if someone dies as a result of their ambulance being blocked by these thong-wearing protesters? Who do they hold accountable at that point? Who's held accountable?
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I don't know. I mean, I'd like to say the activists, but we all know apparently that that's never going to happen. Blocking traffic. You. OK, so our protest is aren't they supposed to be to attract sympathy and support? Isn't that what protests are for? So how did we go from that to protests are just about making everybody mad? If you I don't care what you're if you are protesting against clubbing baby seals. and you block me and rush our traffic, I will literally come out and club a baby seal to death myself as a protest against your protest. Oh, hell yes, I will. To hell with the seals at that point. Done with it. I mean, you can say that I can't, but I physically can. Whatever it is. If you're like, we don't want to shoot kittens out of a cannon and we're going to block traffic. We're protesting against shooting kittens out of a cannon. We're going to block traffic. I'm going to shoot a kitten out of a cannon now to spite you because you blocked me and rushed our traffic. You're not engendering sympathy for your cause. That's the whole point. You know, I mean, you're you're I mean, think about like in the 60s and the peaceful protests at lunch counters. And when you would see what individuals endured, it was a nonviolent protest. You would have sympathy and support that generated for that. And that's normally how protests go. You're not supposed to just tick off everybody that you're trying to get support from. But I feel like these are remedial people we're dealing with here. They're not the brightest activists out there. They really aren't. So it's rainbow everything right now. The gay everything. It's the gay everything month. Again, Memorial Day gets a day. Veterans Day gets a day. But, you know. And then they did Air Canada. Can we talk about Air Canada for a minute? Oh, my gosh. It's the Terrence and Phillip airline. Okay. I need to read this tweet that they put up because I don't understand this at all. Okay, so actually we might need Juan to literally show the tweet because I don't even know how to read this. It says, our first all minus 2SLGBTQIA plus flight. Okay, first off, what is that? Oh gosh, do I want to Google this? I don't want my algorithm to show me a bunch of gay stuff now. It doesn't even recognize it. I don't even know what this is. Why is it a minus 2SL?
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What?
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I don't know. It's just what it says. So, minus 2SLGBTQIA plus flight was a heartfelt celebration reflecting our unwavering commitment to inclusivity and equality in the air and on the ground. Can you fly the damn plane? That's all we care about. You know, are you able to fly the plane? See, this is the Air Canada thing. Watch.
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It was a bit of a range of emotions this morning, coming here and getting dressed for this flight. Are they Quebec?
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Oh, they're Quebec! Wow, wow, wow, okay, great. It's in French, on purpose. Makes sense.
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We are doing the first ever, let me get that one straight because a few letters have been added to this one, 2S LGBTQIA plus flight ever in Canada.
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What is 2S?
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There's something in there that represents me as well. So it was a bit of joy having the opportunity to do this flight today. Okay, can you fly the plane?
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You know, I don't care what... I don't care. Can you fly the plane? Can you fly the plane? That's all I care about.
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Did you cover your mouth? I did. Okay, good.
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No, but I like to go to bed with the men. Okay, but that's... Are you going to be at, like, if we run into a bird, can you fly it out? Yeah, Lorraine says that's two-spirit. I still don't even understand what that... That means you're possessed. That's possession. You've got a devil. What? Yes, you're LGBTQ. That's what that means. Just I'm just curious why there's so much emphasis on that. And. Not, you know, other than that does Brian over the Dallas Cowboys. A lot of people were criticizing him and they just need to shut up their mouths. He slammed the NFL as a gay pride post resurfaced. So it was an older post from 2021. It was a 30 second video. Remember the video where they're like football is gay. Football is lesbian. Football is beautiful. Football is queer. Football is transgender. Football is for everyone. Yeah. And he had said, these are wild statements to make. And he goes, I'm going to probably tell my boys that football is none of these things. I have nothing against gays, but this is far from right. Go Des Bryant. Yes. And he's, I mean, he's right. That was a stupid thing that they put out. And of course, you know, the activists immediately, they're like, gay people are persecuted. Well, shut up. No, they're not. You know where they're being persecuted? In Gaza. Yeah. Oh, what? I know a lot of these countries that you think are so much better and a lot of these nations that aren't their own countries that you think are so much better than the United States. All of the people out there with the picnic blankets and the Gaza flag that think that they wouldn't be thrown off a roof the second they landed. Come on. the partners that help bring us the program. It's our friends over at Angel Studios. There's a lot of stuff out there in Hollywood that's just not good. I mean, it's really difficult to find anything good to watch anymore. Or anything that's not super ridiculously woke or interspersed with an insane political message. There are a lot of people out there that Hollywood's ignored. And so Angel Studios exists to help make films and help make content for this audience. So for instance... They have a new movie out called The King of Kings. You can stream it. It is based on Charles Dickens' book, The Life of Our Lord, and it's about the life of Jesus, and it's inspired by that book. It has an all-star cast. You have Kenneth Brogna, you have Uma Thurman, Pierce Brosnan. There's a lot of really big names in it. It received an A-plus cinema score and 98% audience rating, and it's a record-breaking animated faith-based film. Now, when you join... Angel Studios' Guild and become a premium member, you can watch The King of Kings and you can stream all fan-curated shows and movies and get two free tickets to every Angel Studios theatrical release. So visit angel.com slash Dana, join over a million Americans taking back control of entertainment, become a premium Angel Studios Guild member to watch The King of Kings, stream all fan-curated shows and movies, and get two free tickets to every Angel Studios theatrical release. It's angel.com slash Dana.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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South Korea elected its next president after a crazy... election season where they had a martial law fallout and everything else. The winner of the snap election determines how they approach trade talks and everything else. In terms of Mount Etna, the eruption, I cannot get over the people who are literally on the side of Mount Etna taking videos right now. There's literally up on the boot, right up there, there's a little town called Pompeii. I don't know if you've ever been up there, but they're Mount Etna. The highest active volcano in Europe. It's been erupting since Monday. Tourists are seen running down the slopes. Huge plumes of smoke rose in the sky. They said that there was a strombolian explosion of growing intensity. It's a code red for aviation, according to Volcanic Ash Advisory Center in Toulouse, which I didn't even know was a thing. It's safe to travel there, but they said... Flights right now are operating as normal. But, you know, just be aware because they're not having, you know, tons of lava go down. Just be aware. Also, let's see. Consumers are financing their groceries. We've talked a little bit about that before. That's a sad thing. I mean, it tells you a lot about. been going on since biden yeah it's been going on since biden for sure uh also this oh my gosh so did you guys hear about the star coach you know the star coast suicide pod well apparently the uh an activist who watched one and promoted it killed himself yeah that's kind of yeah we got we're talking thc coming up what's happening in texas stick with us it's our friends at patriot mobile the only christian conservative cell phone service in the country and patriot mobile not only wants to save you money but they understand you're you want to be mindful of how you spend your money and you don't want to spend it with companies that undermine your values so this is where patriot mobile comes in you get exceptional nationwide coverage they operate on all three major networks so you're connected wherever you go It's very easy to make the switch, and you can keep your number in your phone or get entirely new everything. It's up to you. But it's super easy to switch with our 100% U.S.-based customer service team. And your money isn't going towards empowering the things that you vote against at the ballot box. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Switch today and defend freedom with every call and text you make. That's patriotmobile.com slash Dana or 972-PATRIOT.
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Wanting to protect children, but you have grown adults who are using these products too. Is there a way to do this where grown adults could still have access to these products?
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We don't want adults having this either. What are you, crazy? You want to go home and eat a bag of this tonight? See if you're here tomorrow? This is what we focus on, kids. Because that's where they built the shops. But adults are buying this stuff, too. Make no mistake. We want to protect the 20 and the 30 and the 40 and the 50-year-olds, too. We don't want anybody buying anything off the shelves that could kill them or ruin their mental state for the rest of their lives.
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Okay, so we talked a little bit. That was Dan Patrick last week. And, you know, we here in Texas and Dan Patrick is the lieutenant governor of the great Republic of Texas. And we could have had property tax relief. We pay higher property taxes in California to us in Texas. It's insane. Higher property tax in California. We're right at we're right up there with New York. We wanted some property tax relief. There's several other things that we wanted to best we can do. So Dan Patrick pawn store style is we can be in some THC. Now, what's weird about this is that they made it legal and then businesses were built and they began selling a very strictly regulated property. product. And then now it's it reminds me of the pistol brace rule where the ATF went out and was like, yeah, you can have pistol braces and people made pistol braces. And then the ATF comes back and is like that. Nope, never mind. Change your mind. Y'all are felons now. We're not doing pistol braces and get ready to go to jail. So I feel like it's the exact same bait and switch they did with this THC stuff. And we've talked about this bill. And I don't care if you don't have to be a consumer. I'm not a consumer. But I also don't trust my government. And I don't understand why the government has decided to do this in Texas. And it just is real sus to me. And I question the motives of every single person that's flipped on this. I question the motives of Dan Patrick. I question his donations. And I just I just leave people alone. Give property tax relief and stop doing this like a boomer reefer madness. I mean, the bad boomers don't send me hate mail. I'll run over it with my kids power wheels and then shoot some buckshot through it. and doing all this stupid reefer madness with it. So joining us right now, and he's been on the program before. He's a friend of the show, and he's a business owner. He's a veteran, and he's a business owner, and this is going to affect him directly, not just his consumers. John Burke, who is an entrepreneur, he also hosts the All-American Savage Show, and he owns Shell Shock CBD, where you can go shellshockcbd.com, and that's been in operation since, I think, 2019. He joins us now on the Senate Bill 3, which now heads to Greg Abbott's desk for his signature. And a lot of people are asking him to veto it. John, that's my first question to you. First off, it's good to see you. Do you think that Greg Abbott is going to veto this, though?
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That's that's a really good question. Honestly, I think Abbott's. Well, first of all, nobody asked for this bill. I mean, you're plugged into Texas politics more so than I am. Did you see anything in the coffer as far as or in the in the literally everything that I've been watching is about property tax and guns.
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And this all of a sudden, boom, was out of nowhere.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. Number one, if you look at the THC market and just say the capital of Austin and you look in there and you see the side-by-side comparison of THC drinks that are being sold there to alcohol, THC is destroying the alcohol industry. There's your reasoning right there. But as far as what Abbott's going to do, I think Abbott is going to, this is just, I'm guessing, I hope he vetoes it. I hope Abbott is listening to enough Texans signing the petition, getting out there, making their voices heard. Texans don't want this. But I think Abbott, quite honestly, is going to ignore it. And hopefully this kind of does not cause any friction points between he and Dan Patrick. Because Dan Patrick is basically the guy who really wants us to go. We had, what was it, Representative Perry in Texas. I forget which district it is. He was the one that I think helped push this bill in the State Affairs Committee and the Senate. And he preached this idea of morality. And I think that's rich because I think this guy is the same dude that has a restraining order against him from a stripper. So I'm tired of these boomer conservative Republicans coming to us with their legislative morality. And I think Abbott is basically going to ignore it. And hopefully that's it'll just pass into law. It won't be a pocket veto. Some people were saying that's what happened. That's at federal level in the state of Texas. We don't do pocket veto. So I think Abbott's going to try and withhold. He hasn't mentioned anything about it. I think if he was going to veto it, he would do it now. He'd make himself vocal about it. But he hasn't said a word about this. And I also want to note that my representative, Katrina Pearson, who just got elected, she was absent. So good job standing for veterans. And I've reached out to your office many times.
SPEAKER 17 :
How can you be absent for that?
SPEAKER 03 :
The same ones that'll sit there and they'll hold the veterans. Oh, we're for veterans. We do everything for veterans. Well, when a bill came before Congress and we were there, Dana, I went up there both times into Austin to testify before the House, before the Senate. Nowhere. Like, I went to her office and I said, hey, you know, this is what's going on. I spoke to one of her workers, one of her staffers, and he assured me, he's like, we're going to read this thing through. And she was absent. Didn't even show, like, you didn't even vote no. You just said, I don't want to get my hands dirty. Now, I've reached out respectfully. I've tweeted her out. Haven't received a response. And I think it's time that more people started paying attention instead of just federal level. In the state level, you saw what's going on in the Texas legislature. Where's the property tax cuts, Dana? That was like the number one thing that we wanted was property tax, but we didn't get it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And now these people are going to come around for hands out for donations and support. Talking with John Burke, by the way, you're right on that, that I found that article. I love hearing that. The stripper in Oklahoma filed for a protective order against Senator Charles Perry of Lubbock, Texas. We got to do the Christian things. Yes, I want that. Well, and can I just touch on that for a moment? Because the people who are like, well, let's look at the moral.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
the moral reality of this. Okay, so they're going for a ban on all alcohol, right? And they're going to go ban all wine and all liquor. I mean, let's, you know, to be consistent because I don't see the consistency. And I think that law without consistency is stupid. The consistency is part of the strength of the law. You mentioned the THC and drinks, which I, now don't make fun of me. I'm a Martian on this. I literally just like found out within the past six months that you could drink it. I didn't even know. I had literally no idea.
SPEAKER 03 :
That makes so much sense with alcohol now. Yeah. You represent my demographic. My, if I had not been involved in this business, I wouldn't know either, but you're getting older. Like, and I'm not trying to divulge your personal information, but when you go out, are you drinking as much anymore?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I have like a little wine with dinner.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, there it is.
SPEAKER 17 :
I never have been though. I was never a big drinker, but I do like wine with red meat, red wine and red meat.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wait, you were also, but wait, you grew up emo. So you were doing other stuff. Like you were doing other stuff. We talked about now I'm playing.
SPEAKER 17 :
no i never did that's the crazy thing i haven't but i just don't i am so much of an anti-authoritarian and especially after covet i don't want my government telling me anything especially when they go out and do press conferences where some of the stuff that he said john i swear to you i think i heard like if you eat one of these gummies you're gonna die of brain aids or something storming the beaches of normandy dana this bag of gummies this bag of gum you'll walk in front of a train and die Wouldn't you drink alcohol and get hit by a train, though, too?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean... It's always the kids. If they cared so much about the kids, all you have to do is just regulate this. And this is what the business owners... Well, they are, aren't they? Well, before it was, it kind of flip-flopped. There were some amendments made, amendments withdrawn. And before, we were kind of like, look, just regulate it. All the business owners that showed up said, yes, over 21 to purchase. You have to... Everything, just like alcohol. Can't consume it in public. Can't drive.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the problem becomes non-existent. What is the argument...
SPEAKER 17 :
I don't mean to interrupt you, but something you made me think of, what is this argument that they keep making where they're like, oh, well, they're advertising to kids? I have never seen this.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is, again, it's the safety of the kids. The kids is the crux. It's the foundation of their argument. And it's been debunked time and time again. Number one, you can literally Google THC or you can chat GBT. How many people have died? Zero. Zero kids. Advertising to THC, you talk about like they talk about the flavoring. You mean like bubblegum flavored vodka? You mean stuff like that that's also for sale? So they kind of pitch it to where that if it's appealing to children. Well, there is a color combination when it comes to sales. Go Google the top five colors that you put on your packaging to appeal to adults. Now, you could make the claim it's trying to go after kids. Fine. But the banks that we have to utilize, a lot of them will not touch CBD or THC. And even they're like they've restricted about three of our products that we will not sell that because it looks too ish because we had one called Doritos instead of Doritos. It's Doritos that you eat when you get you get the munchies. And that apparently was appealing to children. So it was kind of like, okay, I get that. So the banks kind of have their own way of doing it as well.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, where are the parents though also? Because I feel like everybody's talking about the government and the banks and everything else. It's like, if your kid is like drinking underage and doing any kind of drug and they're a kid, then, you know, can you assess your job as a parent? Because you're a crap parent then. So why are we doing these, creating these insane stupid laws that are going to open a Pandora's box for a whole bunch of other formulaic variations to go after people's rights?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think the number, again, it's like 50,000 jobs that will be axed. It's going to be over 8,000 businesses. And this is, like I said, something that people have not called for. But to my other point, though, the reason that you don't know a lot about this, Dana, and our generation by and large is because there is a transition shift coming now. People that I just turned 41. And I consume THC. I microdose it. I think it's a godsend for things for, again, people that can't sleep, people that have hypervigilance, paranoia, things like that have been brought on from combat. But people are tired of going out there and spending $200 to $300 on a weekend or a night on the weekend to drink booze, wake up feeling horrible. When you can buy a $30 dangerous gummies from Dan Patrick, that'll kill you, apparently. It's like, just drop some of these and the whole neighborhood's gone.
SPEAKER 17 :
To this point, I can't tell you, so I'm not going to divulge. I'm not calling anybody in my family out, but there are members of my family that do exactly what and they're not. Some of them are veterans and some of them are not. And they don't like out. They really don't like alcohol as much as they've gotten older. They don't really like alcohol. And so they do what you're talking about. They micro dose with that. But then I've also heard from a ton of veterans and I don't you know, I don't know their experiences and I don't claim to speak for them. But the stories that I've heard, like when people are coming out of the military and everybody apparently has a prescription for like an opioid or some kind of pharmaceutical that is all about dealing with anxiety or depression and they don't want to be hooked on that and they don't want to have the side effects that go along with it. And so this is an alternative to help them acclimate back to civilian life. I don't know how anybody can I don't know how anybody who claims to care about veterans can speak against the issue from a point of such ignorance that I saw demonstrated at that press conference.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, 100%. You had the Allen police chief go up there and completely and blatantly lie to everybody. I had to call him out. It's like the things that you're saying, even the representatives are talking about like, well, if we legalize it, the crime is going to be increased. It's been legal since 2019. I asked them all in the House of State Affairs, has crime increased? And they're like, no, not for us. So then where is this coming from? So, again, it's constantly just thrown back into our face with just lie after lie after lie after lie. We saw it in both houses. There were nonstop lies told. And so for anyone that disagrees with veterans being able to self-treat with THC, why is it then okay for them to be treated with opioids that have been proven to have massive side effects, lots of addictions? And, Dana, we're talking about veterans that are coming out there, and they're on – three different medications and they have the side effects they have to take two medications for. They're on so many pills. So a shell shock CBD, we get them off the pills. And I can't guarantee that for everybody. I'm not a doctor, but these are natural things that it's no different than fermenting a grape and getting alcohol. It's no different than pulling the THC from hemp or the cannabis plant and microdosing and treating and putting yourself in a good mood. And it's also, again, it's amazing for, you know, anti-inflammatory. CBD is wondrous for that. And people are ignorant to this. So we're trying to educate people and bring them out of the reaper madness.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, doesn't it? This bill goes after CBD as well, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's going to leave CBD alone, but it's still going to destroy the businesses because a lot of those businesses have now incorporated the Delta 8 and Delta 9. And Delta 8 and Delta 9 are just THC, same chemical compounds found in hemp and the cannabis plant. All the differences, the federal bill of 2018 said you cannot pull it from cannabis, but it didn't say anything about hemp. So when Abbott passed this, they knew this. So they said you can, they didn't say it, they kind of left it open to interpretation, but you can pull those same chemical compounds from hemp and then kind of blow them up a little bit. That's not a synthetic. You can synthesize using a chemical process, which is the only way to get it. But outside of that, they likened it to K2 spice, which that is a man-made synthetic. There's nothing real about it. That's different. So when they went up there and they said, oh, it's like K2 Spice, it is nothing like K2 Spice. This is the actual organic chemical compounds found in the hemp plant that we just extract and put into a gummy. That's literally it.
SPEAKER 17 :
And this isn't about smoking marijuana. It's not about any of that. It's not about, I think there are a lot of people that are conflating the issues. This is literally about from what I read, the consumable aspect of it. I wanted to point this out. The fatalities in 2023, which are no, yeah, between 2014 and 2023 in Texas, where nearly 40% of traffic fatalities were because of alcohol. in Texas. So if this is about saving lives, then where's their consistency? And I question the donations that a lot of these people are getting. There's a lot of big special interests, big alcohol, big weed that are absolutely donating to see some results, whether it's the state level or the federal level. Last question before we talk to our friend John Burke. What would you say to Dan Patrick? If you could say anything to him directly, what would you say to Dan Patrick about all this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Debate me. Debate me live. Let's have a good old-fashioned drag-out, knock-down debate. Let's debate this. I mean, it doesn't really matter, though, anymore at this point, Dana. It's on the governor's desk, and we're going to see what he does. But here's the crazy thing. Representative King stood on the House floor and even said, even if it's banned, they can still get it online. This ban actually helps my business, but I don't agree with it. I'm like you. I don't believe in prohibition because ultimately you have consumers say like they banned this in the state of Texas. Now you're either going to get your THC from the black market, which is not regulated. You don't know what's in it. You could have fentanyl. You don't know. Or you're going to go online where there's businesses that actually do regulate it. And we also prove proof of testing. So don't forget to use code Boomer Dan from ShellShockCBD.com. I got to plug it.
SPEAKER 17 :
There you go right there. I will say, yeah, I mean, I don't like the guy, especially I think everybody needs to learn the lesson, particularly after COVID. My gosh, I just can't believe to see people doing this and just, yes, let the government and these people that get up there and they know nothing what they're talking about. It's like listening to Joe Biden lecture about guns. John Burke will revisit this when we see what Greg Abbott does. But I hope that Governor Abbott, I'd like to be able to support him in his future endeavors. And this is going to be an obstacle if he chooses to.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks for speaking on this day. And I appreciate a lot of people are kind of turning a blind eye to it because they don't want to get their hands dirty with the marriage of one or the devil's lettuce.
SPEAKER 17 :
But this is something it's about consistency. And you don't like I tell people you don't have to be you don't have to own a firearm or shoot and you don't have to consume this to be consistent where it concerns individual rights versus the state. And that's what it's all about. John Burke, the website that you can go to shell shock CBD dot com. Give them that promo code again.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
And something that just crossed, Caroline, how mad do you think President Trump is going to be when he finds out that Elon Musk said, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive outrage, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong. You know it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Look, the president on this bill doesn't change the president's opinion. This is one big, beautiful bill, and he's sticking to it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it's not beautiful. It is one big bill, though, but it's not beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And Elon Musk is a thousand percent correct. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this third hour. He is a thousand percent correct. And. He tweeted out, let me pull up his tweet, quote, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong. You know it. And he's right. Thankfully, somebody can say it. You know, what are people going to now go and try to cancel Elon Musk now? He's exactly right. They're only... Republicans pretend to be fiscally responsible and fiscally conservative when they're not in control of Congress. When they're in control of Congress, they spend like drunken. Well, they spend like Hunter Biden. They turn into Hunter Biden whenever they are in office. And, you know, this needs to be said. I'm not going to be. Look, you can like Trump and still think that this bill is garbage and it's correct. And even and Massey tweeted, he's right. And Musk retweeted. Well, yeah, simple math. It is. They're right. Thomas Massey is correct. Rand Paul is correct. And for the people who say that, well, where are their ideas? Have you not paid attention? No offense, but if you're asking that, you need to pay better attention. Because in committees, they have been fighting to reduce spending, offering amendment after amendment, proposal after proposal, and it is shot down every damn time. It never makes it out of committee. Because it's fiscally responsible. Republicans don't have the balls for the austerity that they promised you during the campaign season. They all lied to you. And I don't know why anybody out there, any of you watching or anyone driving by, would defend it. Your job is to keep these people honest and not run defense for them when they lie to you. If you are defending this bill after being lied to about it, why? Because all of it, none of this, not a single damn thing in this bill accomplishes what you wanted. Not even the tax cuts are permanent. I wrote a whole piece, a very, very big deep dive. And you don't have to take my word for it. What you can do is when you go to chapter and verse, go down to the title from a chainsaw to a nail file. Read the post, but there's a link in there that goes to all of the stuff that's in the bill. And it's hyperlinked and you can click on that link. And then what you do is there's a way with a Mac, you can hit control F. And then there's a little bar that pops up. And what you want to do is write temporarily in that bar and then hit enter. And then it's going to show you, it's going to go right to where it says all these new tax cuts are. Every single one of the tax cuts, it says temporarily, temporarily, temporarily, temporarily, temporarily. It has a four-year limit. That expires conveniently right when we are running into the next presidential cycle in 2028. And the reason that was done is because instead of cutting spending to control the cost, they decided to cut your tax cut to control the cost. They didn't cut spending. They limited how much money of your own hard earned dollars you get to keep. They did that to try to fudge the score that they wanted from the CBO. Now, when you hand something to the CBO, Congressional Budgetary Office, the CBO looks at just exactly what you gave it. It doesn't go now. Wait a minute. These tax cuts are temporary. They expire in 2028. I mean, all of it, the child tax credit, the standard deduction increase, any new deductions, the no tax on tips. Oh, yeah, that's all temporary. The CBO doesn't look at that and go, oh, well, you know, they fudged this here and they limited these tax cuts only for four years so that they could get a better score out of us. They just look at that, at just the basic math of it, and then they give you the score. So it's like AI. It only feeds back what you prompt it. It's wholly unreliable, really. You have to know how they're trying to game it so that you know how to interpret it. That being said... They get the score that they want, and then they can parade it through the streets. Oh, look, look, look, look. Look, it comes in at this much. It's only this much. But they're also raising the debt ceiling in this. We're adding to the debt. It's insane. I would be lying to your face if I said this was a big, beautiful bill. If I told you that, you should want to boycott my program because I would be lying to you just right to your face, and I'm not doing that. It's a very unpopular thing to be consistent, especially in a society that rewards inconsistency. There's no accountability for it. The pendulum has gone one way to the other. There was too much accountability that even people who didn't do anything got dinged. And now it's hyper accountability. But there's accountability, though. And this whole thing, this bill is just, it's a hot mess. Like I've told you, all of the expirations mean that the CBO score only reflects the revenue loss for the years these cuts are in place. That's it. Now. You know, the press secretary can criticize the CBO and say they're partisan and political. And my response is, if you're just now saying this, you haven't been paying attention for the entirety of politics. The CBO can be gamed either way. The CBO is chaotic neutral. Like with Obamacare, Democrats fed the CBO through their proposal a certain formula so that they could get the score that they wanted. Remember, what was it? They wanted it to come in under one trillion. And they basically lied there. Isn't that what it was, Cain? So they lied their backsides off. They fed the CBO only what they wanted the CBO to know. They gamed the numbers and the CBO was like, oh, yeah, it comes in under a trillion. Republicans did the same thing. So if Republicans are going to be mad and say that the CBO, if the press secretary is going to be mad and is going to go after the CBO, well, yeah, the Republicans game it just like the Democrats do. That's why the score on this is such pig feces. It's chaotic neutral. The CBO is not really... I mean, you can say it's partisan, but it's partisan depending on whose hands it's in, depending on what you're feeding it. Does that make sense? So, like I said, when they're trying to get this score... For like with Obamacare, they lied about the excise taxes and all this stuff in order to get to try to fudge that it was coming in under a trillion with this. They also did this with the 2001 Bush tax cuts. Republicans gamed the CBO to get a certain score. just like they're gaming the CBO now to get a particular score for this bill so they can say, oh, but it's under this amount or it's only adding this much. Well, the only reason they're getting it is because they're limiting how much of your hard-earned dollars you get to keep. They're limiting the tax cuts. That's how they got this score. They're not cutting the spending. They're raising the damn debt ceiling so they can spend more. They would rather spend more. Look at this. Think about it this way. If they were really going to be fiscally responsible, why wouldn't they spend less and cut your taxes without raising the debt ceiling? The fact that they're even raising the damn thing tells you everything. Your taxes are not going to get cut and these tax cuts will never be made permanent. You were told in 2017 after the passage of the tax cuts then in the Jobs Act, you were told that those were going to be made permanent within the year and they weren't. Then you were lied to again until they were going to be made permanent in the next year. You had 2017, 2018, 2019 going all the way up into the 2020 election and not a single damn time did any of the Republicans, including the times that they were running the Senate and the House, not a single damn time did they actually work and fight to make that permanent. Just like not a single damn time did they ever work to actually repeal Obamacare. They never had any intention of doing it. Why would anyone in their right mind roll over to another slate of promises that these people are making when you know and I know they have no intention of fulfilling them? None. None. Elon Musk is a thousand percent correct. Thomas Massey is a thousand percent correct. Rand Paul is a thousand percent correct. It's not MAGA to spend. It's not MAGA to raise the debt ceiling. And it sure as hell isn't MAGA. To promise tax cuts and tease everybody with it and then limit them to four years so that you can fudge a CBO score, raise the debt ceiling and spend more. Now, they come back and they say, oh, but Dana, the Doge cuts with the rescissions package. We're going to talk about that here coming up. Really? The rescissions package? Hmm. I mean, that's one of the ideas. One of the things that they were talking about is, well, this rescissions package that they're introducing. If Republicans were serious about cutting it, this package would have been proposed a hell of a lot sooner. Now, if you don't know what rescissions are, that's the president making a proposal to not spend money that was appropriated to spend on a certain item. But Congress, they all have to agree on it. Now there's a way to get around it using a pocket rescission, which is like a pocket veto. And that's a way to run out the clock, meaning they want to run out the budget authority in the 11th hour so that Congress's hands are tied. The. Problem with that is that there has been legal fights over that before and it gets really technical because in some instances it's legally allowed and in some instances it's fought. So back like for instance, let me pull the story up. This was back in I think it was 2019. Yeah. So this was in August of 2019. And it had to do with foreign aid. And it was a rescission after there was a big fight between the his POTUS's budget advisors and his cabinet officials. And people were the people who were trying to be more fiscally constraining were trying to, you know, convince POTUS that we need to we need to restrain on our spending then they got into a fight with some members of Congress because some members of Congress did not want to and they eventually won but they were trying to make it to where they would freeze this foreign policy funding. It was a foreign policy thing. They were going to try to freeze it. They were going to run the clock out with a pocket rescission. GAO said that you can't do that. And it ended up being kind of a big fight and POTUS had to walk it back. So we don't I don't want to get into that. problem either. Some people say that the pocket rescission is a legal way to bypass Congress. Some are saying that it's not a legal way to bypass Congress and they go back to Nixon because Nixon tried doing it and then he got in trouble a lot. So there's some legal history there and it gets... My problem is I've asked a number of legal experts back channel about this and I've asked three different ones and none of them agree. Like no one's even on the same side and it kind of is very frustrating. So it gets really... But isn't it stupid that it gets that much into the weeds? Just like stop the damn spending. And we don't even have to have these. Well, let's see. This is a statutory reality, but is it a practical one? This is what the statute says, but does that mean you can do this in real time? It's insane. But the bottom line is that This to go after some of these more fiscally conservative lawmakers who are simply going by the promises made during the campaign cycle is asinine. I want to remind everyone that we barely have a majority in the Senate. We barely have a majority in the House. Now, simultaneously, these are all used as excuses for why we cannot cut more. Why in the hell would you endanger that when trying to cut spending? Go after the people who would be brave enough to cut more. Why would we imperil ourselves that way? Sorry, but the GOP is not incredibly wealthy and constitutionally responsible lawmakers. We got a lot more on the way. We got headlines coming up. And like I said, we're going to talk to one of the people that's in the fight with the pocket rescission stuff here coming up as we move. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, this woman's not having a good day. A dead woman. Well, she's not really dead if she wakes up inside the coffin, is it? 88-year-old woman. She was almost buried alive. She woke up while her presumed dead body was being prepared by funeral workers. This was in the Czech Republic. She appeared unresponsive. And then they declared her dead. They put her in a coffin. And funeral workers realized that after she opened her eyes that she was alive and that she was breathing. And oh, boy. That seems like a big mess. Can you imagine? Good night. 80 years old. Oh, my gosh. A driver jailed for a crash that wrecked five police cars during his first date. He was out on a date. They said it was it was crazy that nobody was killed after Maziar Azar Bonyad failed to stop. Got a lot of Z's in your name. A catastrophic collision. It was in Britain that this happened. He was worse than a woman driver. A pet zebra wreaks havoc on a Tennessee interstate after an escape. Or if you're British, a zebra. Dodging vehicles narrowly missing being hit. A pet zebra ran into traffic along a Nashville interstate over the weekend. He's still missing, apparently. He broke loose. And they're searching for him. He's just running everywhere. If you see him, no pets, maybe. Or pets. I don't know. I feel like finders keepers, you know. I want a pet zebra. Let's see. This is... What is this? P&Q apologizes after a cabinet that was described as easy to assemble even if you're a girl. I don't even know what this is. It's a flat-packed bamboo bathroom shelf that somebody bought. I guess it's like an Ikea thing. And they said, yeah, you can easily assemble the cabinet even if you're a girl. And people took offense. Get over it. It's true. Probably all the people that got mad were girls. A thief that tried to steal a tire off a cop's personal vehicle was arrested after a fight. Yeah, they can't really do that. I gosh, the worst car theft ever. Like, can you imagine our tire theft coming up? We're going to talk about what's happening with this rescissions proposal. Stick with us.
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SPEAKER 17 :
So we have the you have the big, beautiful bill, what we were talking about. And then you also have the rescissions. These are these are things we've been discussing for the past, I don't know, a couple of weeks, I guess. Well, the past week. And we're going to dive into it further if you're just joining us. Welcome back. Dana Lesh here with you at the bottom of this third hour. You can listen coast to coast. Channel 347 is the stream. The chats at Rumble, all kinds of good stuff. Joining us right now. Joseph Wade Miller is a senior advisor for the Center for Renewing America. And he also worked with Ted Cruz. He's worked with a bunch of Chip Roy, Congressman Chip Roy. And he joins us now via video. Wade's good to have you. Thanks so much for joining us. So. So we have the big, beautiful bill. And then there is also separate from that, this request from the president that a lot of people are learning about for the first time. Although it's been, you know, we've got a couple hundred years of precedent for this. I mean, it's, you know, it's the empowerment. A president can say, yeah, I got this money. I don't want to spend this money and reinforce that idea with Congress. And then Congress can take action or not. And these are two separate ways that we're trying to tackle this big, giant issue. mess of runaway spending and enforce a little bit of austerity tell us a little bit about what some of this strategy is with the rescissions because that seems to be and correct me if I'm wrong on this where a lot of the fiscal hawks are they're putting all their eggs in that rescissions basket because I get the feeling that they think that that's the best strategy for accomplishing this for voters
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And it's important. Thanks for having me on. It's important to understand that doge cuts almost entirely are mandatory spending. So we can't do that on the current reconciliation process. A lot of people are saying they want to see more cuts more and certainly on four more cuts on reconciliation bill, but we can't get a lot of the doge cuts because they wouldn't pass the bird rule in the Senate. So the strategy behind the scenes has been to use the rescissions process and Prior to the 70s, presidents used impoundment authority. And then in the 70s, during the Nixon era, Congress passed a law, and I would argue unconstitutionally, revoking the impoundment authority of the president and then instituting this new regime in which rescissions exist. And so in a nutshell, so you're gonna see a package today. And what that rescissions package will say is, These are things we'd like to cut. At that point, the president can withhold funding for 45 days. During that period of time, Congress has to vote for it, or if they don't bring it up, it just fails after 45 days. That's the normal rescissions process. What a lot of people don't know, a lot of people, most members of Congress, most congressional staffers, quite a few people just don't know is about a lesser known process known as pocket rescissions. And because the president can withhold funding for 45 days, if you do a pocket rescission after roughly August 18th, it automatically goes into effect. And the reason that is is because the president will withhold that funding for 45 days, surpassing September 30th. So once you get to October 1st, There's no more authority. You lose the budget authorities to spend funds in fiscal year 25. So the rescission cuts, any package that's submitted at that point would automatically go into effect. So naturally, a lot of us conservatives have been clamoring to get doge cuts. And that is a completely rational argument if you don't know what a pocket rescission is, which most members of Congress until this week did not. Most staffers still do not, and we're educating them through that process. So it's a completely rational and logical thing to say, why aren't you doing more? And also in the context that I live in the DC area, I've been doing this for a long time. I am used to as a conservative, the establishment leadership saying we can't do it right now, but trust us, we'll do it later. So here I am saying we have to pass the packages coming forward today. If that package doesn't pass, we cannot use a pocket rescission on it later. So it's very important. that everyone supports the upcoming rescissions package. But after this, I would say it is in our strategic best interest to say no more rescissions packages, do it all after August 18th, because then no matter what Congress does, they can vote against it, they can vote fully to support it, they can vote for half of it, it automatically happens. And I think that this is a really easy path for us to rack up all of Elon Musk's dose cuts, plus some, get some additional reforms that way. And then we can look later this summer at also the impoundment process and see how that might be used. There's a lot coming, but we need to be careful and not get ahead of ourselves and urge too much expediency on this and then give Mitch McConnell, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins an ability to take away our ability to get these doge cuts enacted.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's a really good point. I love the idea of running out that budget authority on that, running out the clock. I mean, that's essentially what it is when doing this. And this is fascinating. We're talking with Wade Miller. He is with Center for Renewing America. I know and I was looking back in history because I know that this process has been used before. Is there any concern about a because you mentioned, too, with I think it was the impoundment, the impoundment control act. And it was like in the 70s. I know that there have been legal objections to whether it was Nixon. And I think even back in 2019, when Trump sort of tried this and it involved, from what I understand, like some money that was appropriated for Ukraine. And he kind of got knocked back on it. Is there any worry that such a legal objection could arise from from doing it this way with Doge cuts?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't think so. I think that there is a legitimate legal debate to be had on impoundments, although I think that the argument for impoundments is that they are constitutional and that the Impoundment Control Act in the 70s unconstitutionally restrained that executive authority. But on rescission specifically, in the 70s, the GAO specifically said, look, Congress, So Ford did this, and the GAO said that this is a statutory provision. You guys wrote this ability for the President to do it. You may not like it, but your remedy to this is if you don't want the President to do it to change the Impoundment Control Act, and Congress has not done that. And then fast forward to 2019, the GAO basically said the opposite. I think that this lends credence to the fact that the GAO is now weaponized against the Trump admin. And I think that there, if you look at the statute, you look at what previous GAO reports have said, I think it really exposes the GAO for the kind of the partisan weaponized regime that it is now. And so I wouldn't put too much credence, I wouldn't be surprised if the GAO came out and said that this isn't valid. But given history, given the fact that previous presidents have done this, given the clear statutory nature of the process, I would I would argue that we'd be on pretty firm grounds with the courts that this would go through.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And that's good to hear, too, because that was the first thing I thought of. They are trying to litigate every single thing that happens during this administration, regardless of the executive authority that he has, that POTUS has to act. And it's just like, oh, here's another here would be another legal fight. on this. When you talk about some of the Doge cuts that could be incorporated into this pocket rescission, how far can we go right up to the line before, as you said, it makes some of the people in the Senate a little nervous?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, there's a lot of buckets of money. So the reason we don't see pocket rescissions often and haven't in a long time is that they have to be done after August 18th. And usually there's not a lot of money left unspent in August. It's usually mostly spent. The Trump administration has been very responsibly withholding a lot of different funds and deciding not to expend certain funds on various legal and technical grounds. So we're in a rare situation where we're going to have significant pots of money. And what's that total amount? I don't know what it ultimately would be, but it's a lot. It's tens and tens of billions of dollars. It's a lot more than the rescission package total that we would see today. And then there's additional cuts that you could see included that aren't necessarily Doge specific that could be done through rescissions. There's a lot of authority there. And I have all the confidence in the world that this current OMB team wants cuts enacted and that the president wants his agenda to advance. So I think we're in a good position for a lot to happen after August.
SPEAKER 17 :
Is it giveaway too much of the strategy if you try to like force the like I because I know a lot of people are talking about slow walking this rescissions package. Talk a little bit about the strategy of having to do to propose this in order to do the pocket rescission later.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I don't know what the White House's strategy is. They are, and this is a good thing, they do not leak like they did in the last admin. So we're not privy to all of the specific details of how they are viewing this. If I had to theorize, my guess is that this is kind of an arcane old process. They understood that it would take a lot of education. They wanted to allow the window to condense a little bit before they started having these conversations. This pocket recisions was discussed on CNN. just yesterday or the day before. That's the first time I've seen it kind of publicly talked about. We've had a paper on it for a week, but the admin did say the word pocket rescissions on CNN. So I think that they're starting to have this conversation. And of all of the leadership staffers that I've been talking with, who are usually not necessarily rowing the same direction, they love this. and all of the members that I've talked to, they love this concept of pocket rescissions. And it solves a lot of our problems. There's a lot of cuts that we can't include on reconciliation, but we can get through rescissions. And so when you look at all of these various vehicles, and don't get me wrong, if reconciliation gets even better, that's great. So let's support that. But at the end of the day, we have to look at the totality of what all of these bills are gonna look like at the end of the year to really assess how much are we spending this year versus how much are we cutting and what trajectory is that putting us on? And when you factor in tariff revenue, when you factor in whether you like tariff or not, there is gonna be some sort of revenue to that. When you factor in the tax cuts, when you factor in the mandatory spending cuts, when you factor in rescissions, I think that that's putting the administration in a pretty good spot by the end of the year in terms of what year one cuts look like, especially compared to anything that happened in the last Trump administration. This is gonna be a successful year if you're a fiscal hawk. I believe.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, man. I hope, Wade, I hope you're right because I am a fiscal hawk and nothing would make me happier. Oh, when they talk about cutting money, I get excited like it's my birthday.
SPEAKER 04 :
In a lifetime of disappointment.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know because we've been promised, and I think that's why everybody, I don't want to say sour. But everybody's really critical. I just saw I mean, I'm sure you saw this. Not even I guess maybe it was a half hour ago. Elon Musk came out, blasted the big, beautiful bill, mainly on the absence of some of the of some of the Doge cuts. I know that the tax cuts are not permanent. Those are, you know, that's kept at four years. So they could kind of fudge a CBO score. I get all of that. Do you think that Musk weighing in on this is going to maybe escalate? allow for more pressure to be applied to these members of Congress so that the rescissions can pass? And does that make it, do you think, more likely for a pocket rescission to be successful?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a good question. I don't know the specifics. I did read Elon's tweet. I'm not sure specifically what he's talking about. He's talking about pork filled. There is some defense money. There's border money. But aside from that, not a lot of spending. There's tax cuts. Debt ceiling rates. I don't consider that to be spending either. So I'll have to look at that. I do know that there are some senators who want to add additional cuts in here. And if that's how this shakes out, that's great. I'll take it. But I do think that we need to get this done. The bill does need to get done. There is important border money in there. There's important tax cuts that are included. There are $1.6 trillion in mandatory spending cuts. And a lot of that has ramped up in the earlier years now because of the fight that HFC had to improve the timeline on those mandatory cuts. And for context, the new Gingrich welfare reforms in real dollars today would be about $800 billion. This has $1.6 trillion in mandatory spending cuts. It's a big win on the mandatory front. Now, we can always do more, but we have other bites of the apple. We can do reconciliation again this year. There's another authority to be able to use a second one this year. We can do one early next year. We can do rescissions next year. We can do additional doge reforms and doge cuts. There's a lot on our table.
SPEAKER 17 :
Why are lawmakers not saying what you're saying right now?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a great question. Now, some of this may be, especially if you're a conservative, you may be wanting to hold your cards close to your chest to use leverage to get this bill in a better place. So there's some incentive if you're a conservative member to not paint this rosy picture, get your wins, and don't make it easy for leadership or moderates to get you to a yes. But we do need, ultimately, to get to a yes on this bill. There's too much riding on it. As long as it doesn't go backwards, then I think that we're in a good spot. I don't think it's pork-filled. And some of this may be, I'm not sure, I can't speak for Elon. I don't know if he understands that doge cuts can't be done on reconciliation. And he may think, you know, I've done all this work, why isn't it on reconciliation? And it's just a process, it's a bird rule issue that it would be considered extraneous and not passed in the final bill. But we have a plan for doge cuts. We know how to get them done. That's what we're talking about here. And that's what we're trying to educate members.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's such a double edged sword because I feel like if more lawmakers came out and said, OK, well, you know, maybe you don't like everything that's in this. But we if we get these rescissions, we can get I understand it because then you're kind of telegraphing what your moves are.
SPEAKER 04 :
A little bit. Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, it makes it tough.
SPEAKER 04 :
You want to squeeze out every last ounce of every part of this process, meaning you want to get the reconciliation bill to the best place. So I could see why strategically some conservatives would be in that position right now. But I do think when you put all the pieces of the puzzle together, if we get the big, beautiful bill done, we're in a good place. And I don't say this often. I'm usually very pessimistic.
SPEAKER 17 :
I usually think... I've read about you. I know you're not very optimistic when it comes fiscally. I looked you up. That's a very good point. Very good point. Well, I would love to circle back with you as this, because we'll see where this goes, whether we're able to accomplish this with recisions, a pocket rescission. I know everybody's going to be watching this, but Wade Miller, so appreciate you coming on and laying all of this out for everybody. We'd love to have you back. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on. Of course. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
So I think it's interesting. The I think this I don't want to say it's not cowardice. I think that the GOP is I'm a little concerned because the fact that pocket rescissions or even this rescissions package is very slow and being proposed makes me think that they don't believe that they have the momentum or the support necessary even within the House or the Senate to make it happen. And that's a little concerning. And I made the point earlier, I'm like, the GOP finally got its own Soros. And because the party is a fecal storm of big spending and cowardice, he's now justifiably slamming them on X. And it barely took a year. I do disagree with, and I didn't want to get in the weeds. I think there were actually things you could introduce. And that would not be rejected per the Byrd rule in terms of codifying certain things as it pertains to mandatory spending within reconciliation. However, the rescissions package, I mean, I think that's a legitimate point. And I think that they can get some things passed through that manner. However, do they have the balls to do it is the big question. Remains to be seen. Anyway, and I get mad the tax cuts are temporary. So I kind of... It makes me mad. All right. I have a piece up about all of that. Recap it. I'm going to write up this. We'll have a piece up on about this interview as well over at Substack Chapter and Verse. So make sure that you sign up for that newsletter because you get really good insight there that you can't get elsewhere. Today in stupidity came.
SPEAKER 10 :
Boy, did I have a lot to choose from. I had a stupidity smorgasbord to choose from. But, Juan, we'll do cut 14. Cut 14. Simone Sanders. Oh, boy. Forgot about her. Now, during the four years of Biden, didn't we often question, the media never did, but didn't we often question who was in charge of the country? Well, somehow, Simone Sanders has the same question now that Trump's in office. What's that about? Listen to this.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, the bar is so low. This man, the oldest man, everybody want to talk about age? Everybody want to talk about Joe Biden? The oldest man to ever be president. cannot bother himself with our nation's secrets, with the intel. I have to ask who's actually making the decisions. Who is actually running the country? Everybody wants to say Joe Biden wasn't running the country.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, now she found her bravery to say such things. Whatever, whatever. Folks, that does it for us today. Find us over at Substack, chat for inverse YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow.
In today's show, Washington Watch unpacks the implications of technological warfare with Congressman Pat Harrigan, exploring the shift required to fight economic attrition in modern conflicts. Amidst calls for reverting to traditional family values, Congresswoman Mary Miller leads the charge to reclaim June as Family Month, seeking to restore focus on faith and family amid cultural shifts. Finally, Carolyn Glick discusses Israel's approach to peace and sovereignty amid relentless international scrutiny.
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SPEAKER 05 :
The president has made clear and is the final word, obviously, and has been literally the final word in this regard. There will be no uranium enrichment. Now, if you're seeing reports about what the deal is, obviously, that's incorrect.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce earlier today responding to reports that President Trump would allow Iran to keep enriched uranium for a peaceful nuclear program. Not going to happen. Welcome to this June 3rd edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, coming up... The administration has qualified and quantified the fraud, waste, and abuse that they found in Dote. They're sending it to us to codify, and that's what we'll be doing with the rescissions package and the appropriations process. And so that's something we're very excited about.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson earlier today. As Congress returns from its Memorial Day recess, House conservatives are ready to vote on the first of what they hope are several White House rescission proposals. The first one totaling $9.4 billion, which claws back funds allocated for NPR, PBS and USAID. Georgia Congressman Andrew Clyde of the House Freedom Caucus joins us in just a moment. And while the White and while the House debates cuts and the one big beautiful bill debuts in the Senate, war rages on in Eastern Europe. Ukraine's bold drone strike deep with inside Russia may have crippled Putin's air power, underscoring that despite President Trump's hopes for a peace deal, this conflict is far from over. North Carolina Congressman and Army Special Forces Officer Pat Harrigan weighs in later on this edition of Washington Watch.
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Let's be clear. Israel is not preventing Gazans from accessing humanitarian aid, and the IDF did not fire at civilians in or near aid distribution zones. It's clear that Hamas are trying their hardest to keep their own people, Gazans, away from the GHF distribution sites. They are trying their hardest. Why? Because that is their last hold on power.
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That was David Mincer, spokesman for Israel's National Public Diplomacy Directorate. Unable to divert humanitarian aid for its terror machine, Hamas is scrambling to discredit the U.S.-Israeli relief effort, and much of the legacy media is echoing its false narrative. Carolyn Glick, international affairs advisor to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, joins us from Jerusalem. Reclaiming June for the family. As rainbow flags flutter across cities like Washington, D.C., Illinois Congresswoman Mary Miller, chair of the Congressional Family Caucus, says it's time to take June back for the family. And she'll tell us how. And by the way, here's one way to celebrate family this month. Take FRC's 21-day Family Bible Challenge. Beginning June the 11th, in just 10 to 15 minutes a day, your family can walk through the life of Christ in the book of Matthew with ready-made study guides, weekly discussion questions, and kid-friendly activities. So make June a special family month. Text MATTHEW to 67742 to take the challenge. That's MATTHEW to 67742. The White House has sent Congress its first rescission bill. It's a proposal to cancel funds that lawmakers have already appropriated. Now, this provision was created under Title 10 of the 1974 Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act. Now, rescission bills, like the reconciliation measure that we've been talking about for months, enjoy expedited treatment in the Senate and can pass with a simple majority vote, bypassing the 60-vote filibuster threshold. Now, this particular package that the White House has sent over today would authorize many of the House Freedom Caucus's doge spending cuts, like defunding NPR, PBS, and certain foreign aid packages. Well, yesterday, the caucus, the House Freedom Caucus, urged House leadership to bring the bill immediately to the floor for a vote this week. Well, joining us now is Congressman Andrew Clyde, who represents Georgia's 9th congressional district. He serves on both the Appropriations and Budget Committee, and he is a member of the House Freedom Caucus. Congressman Clyde, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 10 :
Great to be with you. And I assume you've gotten over the jet lag just getting back from Israel.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, I'll tell you what, seven hours is a fair bit of jet lag. I'm not quite used to that, but I think I'm over it by now.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think this was your first trip, I read, to Israel, and I know you met with the prime minister and other officials. Before we jump into the rescission package, I just want to ask you, I know that the issue of Iran comes up because every time he meets with anyone, that issue's top of mind. of concern for Israel. The president, President Trump, reiterating that Iran's not going to have the enriched uranium that they want to hold on to. That has to be good news to Israel, does it not?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, I think so. Very much so, actually, because Iran cannot be allowed to have a They're a very strong sponsor of terrorism across the world with at least three proxy terrorist organizations for which they're funding that's coming against Israel. And so that's good news for Israel. But the Iranians are incredibly good negotiators and have in mind the destruction of Israel. And that can never be allowed to happen. And so we just have to keep that in mind in everything that in every negotiation that's going on with Iran. They do not need nuclear power or nuclear in any way, shape or form. They have plenty of natural gas and everything else that they need to sustain Iran.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, yesterday, actually, your traveling partner, Congressman Marlon Stutzman, was on the program. We were discussing the same thing. My sense is, just in my conversations, and I'm going to actually have Carolyn Glick on later in the program, an advisor to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is that the Israelis are getting a little antsy about how long these negotiations are going on, because each day that this goes on, Iran gets closer to having the capacity to deliver a nuclear weapon.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's correct. And I think what we have seen time and time again is that Iran is of the mind to delay, delay, delay. If they can delay long enough where they feel that they have the potential to build a nuclear weapon, then they will have won. And we can't allow that. They'll be doing things behind the scenes that they will never admit. And we just have to understand that We need either something very concrete, very quickly, or Iran will play the very long game and they'll achieve what they want to, and that can never be allowed to happen.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, Congressman Clyde, let's move to back to rescissions. This is something that has to be music to the ears of the House Freedom Caucus, because we're now talking about cutting nine point four billion dollars in this first rescission package, which I think you hope is the first of many.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, I believe it will be the first of many. I'm looking forward to it. But to defund NPR and the other public broadcasting station, I think is great to eliminate much of the funding of USAID. In fact, I think USAID should pretty much be 90% put out of business. If you look and see what they're actually defunding, it's ludicrous that we as American taxpayers are spending money on things like continued Sesame Street in Iraq or all these LGBTQ plus whatever alphabet you want to add programs across the world. That is not anything that our taxpayers want their money spent on. And so to eliminate these things in law through a rescissions package, I think is very important. And I believe this is going to be one of many to come. And I'm looking forward to all of them and approving all of them.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is particularly important because not only is it clawing back, taking back money that's already been allocated online, But it will also set the stage for the appropriations process that you're involved in now, because if you if you this is an annual process, people need to understand that money is allocated every year. But if you take money back that's already been allocated for these entities from last year, the last budget, then the likelihood is in this forthcoming budget, they're not going to be funded either.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's correct. And I think what we have seen, the president's proposed budget is about $163 billion cut from the previous fiscal year budget, from FY25's budget. And I think that's a great place to start. But we need to be looking line by line at every solitary appropriation and saying, how can we make our government smaller and more efficient and cost less to the American taxpayer?
SPEAKER 10 :
Al, the House Freedom Caucus is calling for quick movement on the rescission package. The Congress only has 45 days to deal with this once it comes from the White House. The Freedom Caucus is saying, hey, let's put it on the floor this week. Do you think that's going to happen?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I would love to see it on the floor this week. I have not seen it on the schedule this week, but I heard that there's a potential that it will be on the schedule for next week. And that would be fine, too. But it has to be done and be done quickly in order to maintain its privilege in the Senate, which means that it can bypass the Senate filibuster, which is absolutely critical, because I don't think we're going to get any rescissions done if we have to rely on a Senate filibuster. you know, if we have to pass the Senate filibuster. But because it only requires 51 votes in the Senate in order to get a vote in the Senate, then we have to act on this very, very quickly. And I think that, you know, this week or next week would be sufficient, but it must be approved by the House and sent to the Senate so that the Senate can use its expedited procedures to approve it and send it back to the president for signature.
SPEAKER 10 :
We have just a couple of minutes left. Congressman Clyde, I want to ask you a question because most conservatives do not go on to money committees. That's kind of it gives you a headache to have to go through all of this stuff. I mean, you're a veteran business owner, Second Amendment advocate. I mean, you could be on judiciary on one of these other committees, but you've chosen to be on two budget related money committees. Why?
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm a fiscal hawk. I came to Washington, D.C. really to balance our budget and to get our spending back in order and start reducing this massive $37 trillion debt that we have, which will eventually financially break our country. People don't seem to really believe or take into account the fact that our bond rating now has been reduced again and that there's a potential that if we ever get to the point, and I think we will get to that point if we don't deal with this financial crisis that we're in literally this year, if we don't deal with this, there will come a point when the Treasury Department has a bond failure. a bond auction failure. And if that happens, then our country will literally start down the slide of fiscal collapse. And that can never be allowed to happen. So I campaigned on bringing fiscal responsibility back to our government. Congress has not shown that in at least a couple of decades. And so if we don't, we're going to be in very, very dire straits. We could very well lose our status, our country status as the world reserve currency. And that would be another financial blow to our country.
SPEAKER 10 :
And it's a moral issue as well. As conservatives, we don't, Christian conservatives don't always think about it that way, but when you're putting debt onto future generations, and the Scripture speaks very clearly about the borrower being servant to the lender, and that's what we've set up as a nation. Congressman, always great to see you. Thanks so much for taking time to join us today.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you, Tony. Great to be with you on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, Congressman Andrew Clyde of Georgia. You know, that's another thing to be praying about is the finances. You got, we're almost, we're bumping up to $37 trillion in debt. Debt, that's not the deficit. The deficit is what we run each year, which is going to be probably $2 trillion this year. We need to pray about that. All right, don't go away. More Washington Watch straight ahead. Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, and we're here in Jerusalem, the city of King David. And I'm excited to announce the launch of our Family Bible Challenge to read through the Gospel of Matthew. Now, this 21-day challenge begins on June the 11th, and it's a part of our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. It's in bite-sized readings. It takes about 10 to 15 minutes a day, and we provide a toolbox full of resources to help you along the journey, including a study guide titled, The King and His Kingdom. We also provide downloadable resources such as age appropriate questions to engage children. And we have a variety of family friendly projects as well as this, listen, a coloring book, coloring pages about the life of Jesus for the younger kids and your grandkids. Think about it. What could be a better summer activity than to go on a journey through the life of Jesus as a family? Just think what God could do in the lives of your loved ones as they read Matthew. Unforgettable stories about the greater son of David, Jesus the Messiah. I hope you'll join us for our family Bible challenge beginning June the 11th. Text the word Matthew to 67742. I hope you'll join us.
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All right. Welcome back to Washington Watch. All right. As we were coming up to break, I said we need to pray about the debt, but we also need to act on it. We need to elect people like Andrew Clyde and others who understand the significance of the debt that we have, and then we've got to get rid of it. So we need to pray and we need to act. And by the way, I think those who are praying for me, I lost my voice last week, been recovering from that. And not only were folks praying for me, but someone actually sent me some Throatcoat tea and some lozenges. So thank you for not only praying, but acting. All right. Yesterday, Russian Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev said peace talks between Russia and Ukraine are meant to ensure his nation's swift victory. Posting on Telegram, he further stated that the peace talks in Istanbul are for ensuring the complete destruction of the neo-Nazi regime. These comments follow the weekend Ukrainian drone attack deep into Russian territory that dealt a massive blow to Russia's defense capabilities. So what does all this mean for the war at large? We're here to discuss this and more. Congressman Pat Harrigan, who serves on both the House Armed Services Committee and the Committee on Science, Space and Technology. He is also a combat decorated Green Beret. He represents the 10th Congressional District of North Carolina. Congressman, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you.
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Tony, it's great to be with you again. Great to see you, too.
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Let me ask you this. My take in looking at the situation there between Russia and Ukraine. Now, the president, President Trump, hoping to get a peace deal negotiated there. But it doesn't look like Ukraine is out of this when they're able to pull off what they did using the new technologies to go deep into Russian territory and eliminate Russia. a a good chunk of their air capacity um this thing could go on for a while what do you think
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Tony, I don't think any country's out of it when they resort to unconventional warfare. You know, you mentioned I was a Green Beret. We are experts in unconventional warfare, and that is by definition exactly what this attack was. It was very unconventional. It was novel. And one of the kind of key points and perspectives of unconventional warfare is it's usually how you actually win the economics of conflict. Ukraine sent 117 fully AI-driven autonomous drones into Russia at a total expense of about $110,000, and they inflicted over $7 billion worth of damage. on Russia taking out over 30% of its nuclear delivery fleet, long-range strategic bombers. This is absolutely unprecedented and certainly is the type of tactics that Ukraine needs to employ if they are going to stay in this fight over the long haul.
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Now, you have actually advocated that the United States needs to rethink how we are doing warfare in this 21st century and the use of technology.
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Absolutely. I have said for my entire time up here that what we're doing fundamentally supporting Ukraine by shooting million-dollar missiles and $50,000 Russian drones is not only not allowing us to not win the war in Ukraine because we're losing the economics of it. It's also just adding to our national debt. And certainly that's a topic that we all need to be concerned about. And so we have got to figure out how we get our defense industrial base to make the low cost solutions to our enemy's high cost problems, not the other way around as it has been for the last 30 years where we have not won our wars. And we have to change that paradigm if we're going to properly deter or defeat China in the future. So I'm doing a ton of work to try to make sure that we start winning the economics of our conflicts again. And if we do that, Tony, the most important thing is we actually won't fight our next conflict because our enemy knows that we can win the economics of it.
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Let me ask you a controversial question, Congressman. So is it the military-industrial complex that's driving our technology because it's expensive and they make money off of it?
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It doesn't intentionally start out that way, but that's what it's become. And I think we've all got to understand and heed the warning of President Eisenhower. There is a military industrial and there is also a congressional complex. We have to understand that a good part of this is We have parochial concerns that affect every single congressional district across the United States. And when that particular congressman or congresswoman fights for what is being produced inside of their district, oftentimes the wrong decisions are ultimately made on what investments we should be making. That is why I've been a huge proponent and been very involved with the Secretary of the Army and the Chief of Staff of the Army in creating Army Transformation Initiative and making sure that that is allowed to occur and it actually proliferates, not just through the Army, but also to our Air Force, to our Navy. And what Army Transformation Initiative is, it's a voluntary cut of legacy weapon systems, force structures, and contracting mechanisms that have not helped us win the last 30 years of conflict and are not relevant to us deterring or defeating China in the future. We have to invest in new technologies that are relevant to the future fight because as we've seen just over the last couple days in Ukraine, war is fundamentally changing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Let me go back. We've got about a minute and a half left. Congressman Harrigan, let me go back to Ukraine. And as you pointed out, about $110,000 in what it cost them on the drones, their technology, compared to what the damage they inflicted. Was that important? They've been planning this for about a year, I understand, from the reports I've read. Was this in part because they had to rely on their own ingenuity and what resources they had, knowing that America was withdrawing, so they were more creative?
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Yes, and they've been more creative since we have signaled uncertainty towards them, which is exactly what they should be doing, right? They've got to worry about their strategic interests. We need to worry about ours. And our strategic interest is bifurcating the relationship that exists between Russia and China, making sure that they cannot mass military force in multiple different places around the globe at the same time in a connected way. Ukraine is doing what is in its long-term strategic interest right now, which is expelling Russia or attempting to expel Russia outside of its territorial borders. We should expect them to do that. We just also need to act in our strategic interests as well. That's what I've been trying to get people up here to understand. Those two things are very different. They are not the same.
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and costly if we don't get it right. Congressman, always great to see you. Thanks so much for taking time to join us today on Washington Watch.
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Thank you for having me.
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Absolutely. All right. Well, more to pray about when we see what's happening all across the country. All right, coming up next, June. You know, it's been known as Pride Month. Well, some want to take it back for the family. We're going to talk about that next.
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This is Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. The website, TonyPerkins.com. Better yet, get the Stand Firm app, and you can have Washington Watch with you no matter where you go. You also will have access to The Washington Stand, our news and commentary from a biblical perspective. Well, after years of cultural dominance, the momentum of the pride movement appears to be slowing down a bit. It seems people have finally had enough of radical ideology of the LGBT community being forced on them. And major corporations are catching on, and some are quietly backing away from the rainbow-cloaked activism. So what will fill the void? Well, early today on Capitol Hill, Congresswoman Mary Miller introduced a resolution declaring this month as Family Month as a part of her effort to reclaim the first month of summer away from the radical LGBT mob. And I should mention, FRC, along with several allied organizations, has publicly supported this measure. And here to share more is Congresswoman Miller. She chairs the Congressional Family Caucus. House Agricultural Committee, as well as the Education and Workforce Committee. She represents the 15th Congressional District of Illinois, and she is a grandmother of how many?
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23 now.
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Okay, it keeps going up every time I talk to you. That's great. Congratulations. Thank you. What a wonderful motivation to have 23 grandkids behind you as you advocate for family on Capitol Hill.
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Yes, well, family was God's plan and his ways are perfect. That's what it says in Psalm 18. And sadly, the left hijacked June to present perversion, to cause gender confusion, and basically to give license for individuals to be indecent in public. And I'm taking it back for the American family.
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So I know that you are not a stranger to push back from the left because you step right into the arena and you do so with confidence, with clarity and with compassion, I should say. Do you expect to get pushback on this?
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I do. But I always think people are where they are. And we want to lay out for them that God's ways are perfect. And so we want to make getting married and having children a beautiful thing. And, you know, the consequences of promoting this and the Biden administration spending four years promoting this. This kind of indecent pride stuff is that young people don't want to get married, the birth rate is dropping, and we need to exalt the family to the place that it needs to be. It was faith and family that built our country.
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Well, and the social sciences show us that this is true. And I'm talking about the secular sciences that will look at this objectively, show that if you will finish school, get married, and have children in that order, the chances of that child being in poverty are almost nil. I mean, if you do things, as you said, by God's design, it's amazing. It works out.
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Right, and we need to promote that, and that's why reclaiming June for a family, to celebrate the family, it's unifying, it's positive, and I think people are really done with the Pride Month. I don't know how they ever got an entire month, but it's also grooming our children. It's really offensive. I sent one of my staff a picture a couple weeks ago, and I said, well, it's that time of year again, where people come out to the street and are basically decadent. And that's not the culture we want. And I do want to say wherever people are, you know, whatever lifestyle they've been caught up in is God is a God that redeems the past. And I think we need to say this is the best way. This is the ideal. And we need to be unashamed of standing for traditional marriage and encouraging people to have children.
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Well, Mary, and I think it's important, as Jesus himself said, you know, you'll know the truth, and the truth will make you free. And if we won't speak the truth, and the Bible is very clear, as you pointed out earlier, on marriage, on human sexuality, And we are to speak that truth, speak it in love, but we speak it so people might experience the freedom that can only be found in Jesus Christ. And what's happened, I think, in the last several decades, three or four decades, is that with this massive push by the LGBTQ community, so many Christians have gone silent. This is a time to recapture our voice for the purpose of reclaiming freedom for all people.
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Absolutely. And I think it's because generally Christians really care about people and they don't want to hurt people's feelings. But going along with a lie is not loving a person. And so we do need to speak the truth. And there again, I want to say God's ways are perfect. He's the one that designed marriage to be between a man and a woman committed to each other for life and welcoming children. And, you know, I know from having seven children, it's a lot of work, but things that are valuable cost more.
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Yes, you're absolutely right. But the value is eternal. Mary Miller, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us. And once again, I want to thank you for your leadership on Capitol Hill.
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Thank you.
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Congresswoman Mary Miller. And so celebrate June as family month. Look, people ask me, you know, all this stuff happening in Washington, you got to get frustrated. Well, actually, I get pretty encouraged when I see more and more men and women like Mary being called to Washington, D.C., and they're taking a bold stand. Now, we're not at the tipping point yet, but we're getting close. So keep praying, keep voting, and keep standing for truth. And by the way, before we go to the break and coming up next, we're going to be joined by Carolyn Glick, international advisor to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. But... Let me remind you, take the challenge, the 21-day Family Bible Challenge. Text MATTHEW to 67742 and join us in the month of June for the Family Challenge. All right, don't go away. We're back after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in on this Tuesday. All right, thousands have taken the challenge. Have you? That's FRC's 21-day Family Bible Reading Challenge starting June the 11th as a part of our Stand on the Word Bible Reading Plan. You and your family can actually walk together through the book of Matthew with a study guide, weekly discussion questions, kid-friendly activities, and much more. So, to join thousands of other families in taking the challenge to read the Word of God together, text the word MATTHEW to 67742. That's MATTHEW to 67742. Speaking of the Word, our Word for today comes from Nehemiah chapter 8, where returned exiles gather in Jerusalem to hear the life-giving Scripture read. Nehemiah the governor, Ezra the priest, and scribes and the Levites who instructed the people said, this day is holy to the Lord your God. Do not mourn or weep, for all the people wept when they heard the words of the law. Then he said, go, eat the fat, drink the sweet wine, and send portions to those who have nothing prepared, because this day is holy to our Lord. Do not grieve, for the joy of the Lord is your strength." You know, most listeners at that time were encountering the Word of God for the first time. They had no scrolls. The truth reached them only when someone read publicly. As the sentences rang out, conviction broke out in their hearts. Tears watered the parched soil of their hearts. Yet sorrow wasn't the last note. Ezra insisted on celebration and generosity because repentance opens the door to joy. and obedience turns grief into strength. That's the enduring power of God's holy word. To join us on our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. Well, the American and the Israeli aid distribution system in Gaza is once more the target of controversy. Today, the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry claimed that Israeli soldiers fired upon Palestinian people seeking aid. They claimed that at least 27 people were killed. This is the second day in a row that they've claimed violence surrounding distribution sites. Israel confirmed that the shots were fired by its military, but that these were warning shots toward individuals that were approaching the aid area from an undesignated route. Joining us now with more from Israel is Carolyn Glick, the International Affairs Advisor to Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu. Carolyn was previously a senior contributing editor at the Jewish News Syndicate. Carolyn, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for taking time to join us this evening.
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It's always a pleasure to have the opportunity to talk to you, Tony. Thank you for having me.
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Well, let's set the record straight. This is two days in a row we're getting this news. APs reporting it, others saying that Israeli IDF soldiers have been firing on civilians surrounding the aid distribution.
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Right. It's actually pretty telling and pretty distressing that these very major American news outlets are parroting repeatedly Hamas propaganda which is aimed towards preventing Israel from providing with the United States actually with Israeli securing Israel securing the environment for the United States to provide aid to Palestinians in Gaza against Hamas's wishes, because until now Hamas has used the aid distribution networks of the UN to maintain the continuation of its regime and to maintain its chokehold on the Palestinians in Gaza. And now suddenly they've lost that, which is the one thing that has kept them in power the whole time. And they're doing everything that they possibly can to scuttle the program to prevent the people of Gaza from receiving the aid that the international community wants to provide them with.
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The United Nations, one of the loudest critics of this new distribution system, says this allows Israel to use aid as a weapon. But isn't that what Hamas was actually doing? I mean, in fact, there are reports from civilians in Gaza that have gotten aid from this new distribution system that were surprised they didn't have to pay for it.
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Right. Because the United Nations and Hamas have been operating hand in glove essentially since October 7th and really before that. And the U.N. has brought the aid in and has allowed Hamas to take control of all of it. And so there are these stores that the food has been hoarded in by Hamas and they're controlled by the U.N. so that the UN and Hamas basically together have been protecting Hamas's regime in Gaza, because Hamas takes this food aid, which is supposed to be distributed for free to the people of Gaza. It was donated by international organizations on behalf of the people of Gaza to give them food. And Hamas has stolen it and then sells it to the people of Gaza. So one of the most amazing things that we've seen since we started operating the Gaza Humanitarian Fund's aid distribution centers in Gaza is the response of the people of Gaza who receive the aid. What, we don't have to pay for it? What, it's free? Are you serious? Because Hamas has been bilking them for all the funds and then using the funds that they've gotten, which is just net profit. They didn't pay for any of this food, but they just stole it. with UN green lighting, the whole process. So you say, wait, we don't have to pay for it? No. So the money that they've been forced to pay Hamas has been maintaining their regime. That's the money that Hamas has used to recruit new terrorists to its terror army. because they have lots of cash. And they have lots of cash. They can bring in new terrorists to blow up Israeli soldiers, to threaten Israel, to maintain the war against Israel. So by enabling Hamas to keep control of the aid, the UN and Hamas have been working together to maintain Hamas' grip on power. And now the whole thing is being exposed. And so the UN suddenly, not suddenly, is trying to demonize and delegitimize this effort. And Hamas is accusing Israel day after day after day of committing the crimes that Hamas itself is committing. They've been shooting at people trying to get to the aid depots and trying to terrorize people and threaten people. with execution if they dare to go and receive aid directly from the gaza humanitarian fund that's being secured by the israeli army and they're accusing israel of doing exactly what they've been doing which is something that they've been doing all along and it's working like you said because ap uh and and reuters And the BBC and NBC and CNN and ABC have all been promoting this false story that Hamas has created in order to maintain its regime by criminalizing Israel and Israeli and U.S. moves to seize control over the humanitarian aid from Hamas.
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So, Carolyn, given that background and how this aid has been used by Hamas, is it beyond Hamas to stage these violent incidents around these distribution sites to try and create this narrative for the media?
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Of course it's not beyond Hamas. They did October 7th. Nothing is beyond Hamas. They have to remember, though, that Israel also has lots of cameras set up so that they can try to stage all they want. But eventually the truth will out because Israel, our soldiers do not shoot at civilians, period. Obviously, when Israel has such an interest in getting this aid directly to the people of Gaza and preventing Hamas from maintaining its murderous regime in Gaza, and maintaining obviously their control over the hostages in Gaza. We want them all released. Israel has no interest whatsoever in harming the people of Gaza who are trying to reach the aid depots that Israel is securing. We want them to come. We're excited that it's working. They're opening up two more aid distribution centers tomorrow in Gaza. So this is in Israel's interest. This is in the people of Gaza's interest. The only forces that are being harmed by the Gaza humanitarian funds distribution of aid in Gaza are Hamas and apparently the United Nations.
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Ambassador Mike Huckabee, U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee to Israel, has been very critical about the U.S. media for promoting these false claims from Hamas as what he calls dangerous misinformation. I'm in agreement with him. I think this creates and foments a lot of the anti-Semitism that we're seeing around the world. I think contributing to some of the violence we see here even in our own country.
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Look, when the United States media is accusing Israel of wantonly killing civilians who are trying to receive humanitarian aid, And there are people already with a predisposition to believe that who have all along been supporting Hamas. Well, here, you know, you're watching CNN, and this is what CNN is doing. They're disseminating the blood libel, the complete slander that Hamas propagated in the morning. It's broadcast in CNN in a loop throughout the day. And you have people in the United States, unfortunately, who have been supporting Hamas all along, have believed all of the demonization of Israel that's been coming out of the media and other places like academia all along. And so they view this as a justification to murder innocent Jewish people in the United States. or anybody they think might be Jewish or anybody else for that matter. Because if they think, if they believe that Israel is evil and that Hamas is the good guy and that Israel is doing these things and CNN tells them that Israel is doing these things, then they feel justified. That's what happened in Washington, D.C., with the terrorist who murdered two innocent people outside the Jewish Museum. And that's what is happening now in Boulder. We saw it. They're repeating the lies. They're saying, you know, Israel is evil, free Gaza, whatever. It's all the same mantras. It's all the same demonization. And they're hearing it on CNN.
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We've seen this before. You know, we saw this 90 years ago. This is what happened in Europe. So it's repeating itself. And speaking of Europe, I want to turn to to France that is working to get the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Belgium to join and recognize jointly recognize the state of Palestine. of Palestine later this month at a UN gathering, actually on the 17th of this month. And I want to quote from a French diplomat who made the statement anonymously, says, the two-state solution is more necessary than ever but it has been more undermined than ever due to the war, the displacement of Palestinians, and the violence of extremist settlers. I mean, I don't see how you could look at this, what has happened since October the 7th in Israel, and have such a diametrically opposed view as we see articulated here from this French diplomat. If a two-state solution were in fact a solution, why did we have October the 7th?
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Precisely. I think you're exactly right. You have it exactly right, Tony, because, I mean, as Prime Minister Netanyahu has said, we had a de facto Palestinian state for 18 years. It was in Gaza. They had full control over Gaza. There were no Israeli military installations there. There were no Israeli civilians there. It was... It was Judenrein, as they like to say. It was free of all Jews. There were no Jews in Gaza, not in the military, not in civilians. Everything was—we even exhumed the graves of Jews who were buried in Gaza when we left Gaza in 2005 and transferred the entire territory, lock, stock, and barrel, to the Palestinians. So they had a sovereign state, and the end state of that state was October 7th and the massacre of 1,200 Israelis— through the most sadistic means anybody had ever seen. That's where you got to with a Palestinian state when the guiding ideology of all the major factions in Palestinian society is the annihilation of Israel. And so this is what we saw on October 7th. Supporting a Palestinian state under these circumstances means supporting what the people are screaming as they shoot at Jews or people they think are Jews throughout the world. They're saying that free Palestine, Palestine from the river to the sea, a Palestinian state is supposed to be there instead of the Jewish state, not to the side of the Jewish state. And that's what's so disturbing about what the French are doing, what they're trying to get the Canadians and the British to do here, is that they are justifying what Hamas did effectively. They want to give terrorism, not just Hamas. They want to give global terrorism, the global jihad, the biggest prize anybody ever gave, which is terrorism. A state in areas controlled by the people that they're trying to annihilate. That's an amazing, horrible development. And the fact that it's happening now and that it's seemingly allied states like France that are leading the charges is really quite alarming. And I don't know what it means about the nature of French politics that this is what Macron finds is the right thing to be doing at this time.
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Carolyn, we just have a couple minutes left, but this is a new day when you have leaders like the French president calling for a two-state solution. This is not pre-October the 7th. And you spoke recently at the JNS first convention there in Jerusalem. I was there in Jerusalem when you spoke. And you've made very clear that this is... The future of Israel is its sovereignty, and this idea of a two-state solution runs counter to that idea of the sovereignty of the Israeli people. In fact, Ron Dermer, the strategic affairs minister to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, threatened Britain and France that If they keep pushing down this path, Israel may annex more parts of Judea and Samaria. And so it doesn't appear that Israel is going to be passive in these calls for a Palestinian state.
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No, I mean, we can't be. That's the thing. We've sort of tried to not deal with this issue because it's been this consensus in Europe and in very large swaths of American public discourse that the two-state solution is the only proper, only possible path forward, when what we saw is that the two-state solution leads to a one-day genocide, and we can't have that ever happen again. And so for a long time, we were kind of going along to get along. But the Israeli people aren't going to allow for such a thing to happen. We don't unsee what we just saw. We can't. And we understand what's at stake here. And that's really what I think both Minister Dermer and other ministers in the government have made very clear with their opposition to a Palestinian state. I mean, it's clearly something that threatens the very existence of the state of Israel. And so just as we can't have an Iran and Iran armed with nuclear weapons we can have the Palestinians.
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Well I know we've had these conversations that we but Israel and the rest of the world have had these conversations for decades. But it's a different day. And I think the resolve is there on behalf of Israel to protect its future. And this is the only way forward. Carolyn, we're out of time. Always great to see you. Please tell the prime minister I said hello and appreciate you coming on the program today.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thanks very much for having me, Tony.
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And folks, I do want to encourage you to pray for the peace of Israel and for this resolution of this whole situation there in Israel and that America would have the right policies as it pertains to Israel. All right. Thanks so much for joining us. Until next time, just keep standing.
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What we're doing right now is by making all those tax cuts permanent, we're preventing the largest tax increase in U.S. history. Kristen, if we don't get this bill passed, every American is going to receive the largest tax increase in the history of our country at the end of this year when the TCJA expires. Don't forget that. We have to extend it, and this is the vehicle to do it.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Yeah, I don't mean to be overly melodramatic, but if this bill doesn't get passed, it's going to be a catastrophe for the country, for the Trump administration, for every man, woman and child in this country. This bill better pass. And if Republicans, I mean, it'll be their last act if we find that there are Republicans who torpedo the big, beautiful bill. they'll be out of office. I mean, surely America will understand collectively that they're the ones that sabotaged it. It's not going to be perfect. It's not going to be as extensive as we want. But we cannot let the Democrats lose. I mean, the Democrats win and the Republicans lose this. We can't let the Democrats have this massive victory. They are praying that Thomas Massey and Tom Tillis and go down the list will get in the way of the big, beautiful bill. It's got to pass. It's got to pass. And we've got so much to try to tackle today. I mean, just moments ago, it was revealed that Ukraine has announced they've attacked Russia again after their attack on Russian air bases the other day, which reportedly was done without notifying President Trump or the United States. Now, let that sink in as Vladimir Zelensky continues to have his hand out, expecting the American taxpayer to fund this war between Russia and Ukraine. Evidently, Ukraine bombed a bunch of planes in Russia without telling Trump or the United States of America. If that's true, you go ahead and tell me why we should continue to fund and support and defend Ukraine. Americans are getting their fill of Zelensky and Ukraine. And moments ago, Ukraine now announced it has struck a major bridge between connecting Russia to Crimea with underwater explosives. So evidently, Ukraine has again attacked Russia. And the pro-Russia people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, way to go, way to go, way to go, Zelensky. You're going to beat Russia. And I keep asking you, is there any scenario where you think Ukraine defeats Russia? Is there any plausible belief that Ukraine will defeat Vladimir Putin and his army? And I keep wondering and asking what we're doing in that mess. Why we're continuing to be there in terms of funding and support and all of the, remember all the Ukrainian flags? Look, we get it. Putin's a bad guy. We understand that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was wrong. And Trump's got his hands full. He's trying to figure it out. But I come back to our taxpayer support. I want to go back to whether or not... You look at things that we fund. Part of the Big Beautiful Bill, for example, is defunding NPR and PBS. There's no reason for taxpayers to fund broadcast programming for anybody. They're claiming, they're suing Trump. NPR and PBS are suing Trump, claiming that it's a constitutional violation for them not to get taxpayer money. Are you kidding me? In other words, you don't fund all things considered, or you don't want to fund all things considered, or Elmo, you're shredding the Constitution. That's their argument, which kind of confirms for me that we have no business funding public broadcasting. If that's the best they got, that somehow it's unconstitutional, they don't have a leg to stand on. Sell more tote bags. Sell more advertising. You already do that anyway. Just up your game, NPR. Up your game, PBS. And they're squealing like stuck pigs at the thought of losing taxpayer funding. Well, what if we don't want to fund their biased agenda? It's broadcast. It's broadcast. Nobody's going to fund the Mike Gallagher show or the Chris DeGaulle show or the Hugh Hewitt show or Town Hall. You think, what would happen if taxpayers were funding conservative media? So now do Ukraine. Ukraine, with these audacious attacks, striking Russia, evidently without our knowledge, disrespecting President Trump, And he is holding his cards to the vest because he's got a mess on his hands. And part of the mess is America's involvement. So you tell me Ukraine strikes Russia continually without our knowledge, evidently, and you think we should continue to financially support Ukraine? What's the endgame? What's the endgame? These are reasonable questions. Janet is in Oregon, who makes the case that Ukraine should continue to get our support. Hi, Janet. Welcome. How are you today?
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I'm doing okay, sweetie. I just started listening to you, and I enjoy it very much.
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Thank you, Janet. Well, welcome to the family. We're glad you're with us. Tell me why you think we should continue to fund Ukraine.
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Because Putin went over there and he's a bad person. Right. And his soldiers went over there and started and thrashed that country. Right. They have beautiful women over there, beautiful men, beautiful children, a beautiful country, beautiful buildings. Right. History. Right. History. And... And so he deserves what he gets from Putin. Not their country, really.
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Right, right. Well, let me ask you then. Okay, and we can agree that Putin's a bad guy and the invasion of Ukraine was horrible.
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And then you want to know about... Hang on, let me ask you the question.
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So do you think there's any scenario where Ukraine can defeat Russia?
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I don't know, but they started it, and they hurt babies, and they hurt children.
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That's a different subject, though. I know that. Well, Ukraine is hurting babies and children, too. I mean, there's a lot of Russians.
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Well, I can't help that. They started it. Okay, so you want us to... I don't really want them to hurt... No one wants them to hurt babies and children or adults. But we can't get to Putin, okay? We cannot get to him. He's killed people, and he's an evil. Someone should have taken care of that problem a long time ago.
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We got that. But he's still in control, and he's still got his army, and he's still got his nuclear capabilities. And you say you don't know. If you're going to fund Ukraine, what do you think the end game is? What's the goal? What's the end result in our taxpayers' support of Ukraine?
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Well, look where all the taxpayers' money is going anyway to all kinds of other stuff, and it's just not helping the world a whole lot.
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I got you. All right, Janet. Well, we're glad. Sorry, I have to disagree on this. I'm not making any progress with you, but I really would like to find somebody who can tell me what they think the endgame is going to be. You think Ukraine is going to defeat Russia? You think Ukraine is going to topple Russia? And then what do we do? Should we have boots on the ground in Russia and Ukraine? How far do you want to go? How far do you want to support this? And some of this is really strange. The big attack the other day came the day after Lindsey Graham went over there with a contingent. And I'm absolutely baffled by that. But I really am asking why... I appreciate Janet's big-hearted perspective that Putin is bad and hurt a good country like Ukraine. Incidentally, Janet, whatever you do, don't Google Ukraine corruption. Don't look up what Ukraine has been up to for many years under the leadership of Zelensky. They're not exactly choir boys. They're not exactly angelic themselves. A lot of corruption, a lot of graft, a lot of journalists imprisoned, a lot of bad things in Ukraine too. But it comes down to why should we be a part of this? Why should we be in the mix? And I keep asking and asking and asking, and thus far, I can't come up with, get much of an answer. Maybe you can help. 800-655-MIKE, one open line, 800-655-6453. PhD weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind, you don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me, I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Promo code MikeG. Here's Chad in Kalamazoo, Michigan, who agrees with Janet that funding for Ukraine should continue. I can't get my screen to work, guys. I don't know what's going on here. My mouse has gone out. Can you pull up two for me, Eric? Line two, Kalamazoo, because it's not. There we go. Hey, Chad, how are you?
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Great, sir. Love your show. Thank you. I'll get right to the point.
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Sure.
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I don't necessarily agree with Janet. I just think that I believe it was back in 92, part of removing nuclear bombs from Ukraine is that we kind of got ourselves in a position, if they ever got themselves into a tussle, that we'd have their back. Yeah. Not necessarily agree with what's going on, but the other point is one of the top generals say, If you want to play war games, you don't want to do it on the home court.
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I know. I know. I hear you. And I just wonder... Thanks, Chad. I just wonder... I'm a pretty simple guy. I keep asking everyone, what's the goal here in continuing to fund, with American taxpayer money, this battle between Russia and Ukraine? And I think there's a... I think there's a... a sensitivity that people have to the brazen cruelty of Vladimir Putin. And I appreciate that. That's why I can't get too angry at people like Janet, because what Ukraine has been put through is awful. But now, how do we fix that? And how do you expect us to fix that? That's the question. I did an interview yesterday with a reporter who was asking me about any of my contentious interviews that I had over my career. He was writing, and they do really good work at Barrett Media. I'm enjoying their work, and there's some great writers over there like this Garrett Seawright. And he called me and said, look, considering the contentious exchange between – it was Megyn Kelly and – Who was it with? Bill Maher? Who'd she mix it up? Oh, no, Jake Tapper. It was Jake Tapper. That's right. So, you know, and it got real contentious. And, of course, we covered it on the show. So Barrett Media called and said, in your career, have you ever had a contentious interview like that? And I had to think about it. And I thought, not really. The only thing that came to mind was when Michael Smirconish hung up on me in the middle of an interview. Remember that, Eric? Michael Smirconish was allegedly a conservative radio host from Philly. And he wrote a column that I was intrigued by because he was sort of playing footsie with Barack Obama. And I thought, this is odd that a conservative radio host is sort of positive about Barack Obama. What is it about Obama's agenda that any conservative could find acceptable? So I invited him on the show. He came on the show. Midway through the interview, I find out he says he voted for Obama. I said, you voted for Obama? And I couldn't believe it. I was just stunned. And he wound up hanging up on me. In fact, he later followed up. Remember, Eric, he wrote a column about it? Because he used to write for the Philadelphia Inquirer. I don't know if he still does or not. But he wound up writing about basically the obnoxious, awful, monstrous Mike Gallagher and how dare I criticize. And then it turned out a few weeks later, he did his show from Obama's White House. I thought, oh, now it kind of makes sense. But I've got nothing against the guy. He's got a weekend show now, right, over on X? I mean on X, on CNN? I think he's on CNN. I don't know much about the guy. I just remember when I had to think in my body of work of any of the contentious interviews that I've ever had, that was the one that came to mind because it's not often that somebody hangs up on me. mid-interview. Well, there was the other guy that hung up on me. A guy that... I won't say the name. In fact, I'll just get in trouble for saying that. But he was a very busy man. And he had other things to do. Started the interview, said, I gotta go. Click. I'll never forget that. It's strange. It's strange to be hung up on by really important people like Michael Smirconish. What are you gonna do? Just another day in paradise. Speaking of Obama lovers like Smirconish, how about the way the legacy media is twisting itself into a pretzel over the secure border? Great piece from Red State I want to share with you. Stick around. There's a lot more of our Tuesday episode coming up on the Salem News Channel and the Salem Radio Network. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com, use the promo code MikeG, MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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The reality is there will either be less inventory or things at higher prices or both.
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When we were here in March, you said there was going to be big inflation. There hasn't been any inflation. Actually, the inflation numbers are the best in four years. So why don't we stop trying to say this could happen and wait and see what does happen.
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In the Relief Factor studios on Salem News Channel and Salem Radio Network, here's Mike.
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That was a great moment when Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, reminded Margaret Brennan, hey, last time I was here, you said inflation was going to be spiraling out of control. Inflation is the lowest it's been in four years. Unemployment is virtually nonexistent in America. Trump's approval ratings continue to go up. New poll came out today, Trafalgar Group, 53%. Rasmussen's got him at 51%, 52%. Funny, you'd think the way that they're blaming him for everything from your Aunt Bertha's gout to the thunderstorms, he'd be underwater with his approval rating. Let's not... One of the challenges I face every day is to spend too much time with the crazies. Because it feels like the world has gone completely wackadoodle, but it hasn't. There's a lot of good, decent, normal, wonderful things in the world. A lot of joy in the world. And I urge you to... The pastor at the sermon on Sunday's church service talked about gravitating to joy. Making sure joy... fills you. I just reposted something on X. A minor league baseball player was taken out of the game. I don't even know what team he played for. I just came across this a couple of minutes ago because I spend too much time on my phone. That's one of the things I got to work on. But a minor league baseball player was taken out of the game and his coach or the manager of the team told him why. He's being called up to the majors. Now, for a minor league baseball player, to get that call, to get that message, it's everything. You've worked your whole life to get to that point. And they had cameras and microphones rolling when the manager told the player, you're being called up to Seattle. You're going to be in the big leagues. And his reaction, that young man's take, and the hugs and the tears and the joy in that dugout. Follow me on X if you want to put a smile on your face. At Gallagher Show is my handle, and I hope you'll follow me. I've been stuck at 75,000 followers forever. Come on, we can do better than that. Can I get to 80 at least or 90? Help a brother out. Get me to 100. So I don't have Hugh Hewitt always bragging about how many billions of followers he has. I've got a long way to go to catch up to some of my colleagues and friends. But I like X, and I'm enjoying it. We stream the show every day, Salem News Channel on X. Again, at Gallagher Show, check us out. And there is a... Right now, we've got a post... On X, I just reposted the video clip of the minor league baseball player being told he's making it to the big leagues. Joy. Remember joy. Yes, we got challenges. Yes, we got things we're up against. Don't. fail, to get drawn to joy. I get the joy of coming to work every day and telling you about places like Chapter. When I hit 65 a couple of weeks ago, I admitted I was feeling sorry for myself. I do that once in a while. You know me. And I didn't know how to navigate Medicare. And I needed Medicare because, look, I'm Part A, Part B, G, LMNOP. And it was a mess. I was getting bombarded by I was getting bombarded with all kinds of letters and phone calls. Gosh, chapter came to my rescue. If you're turning 65 or if you're over 65, take control. Call 25 Medicare and talk to a chapter representative. The choices are complex. They're difficult. But you could be making a whole lot of mistakes with Medicare. They make it simple. They advocate for you. That's the difference. Their database searches all coverage options. They're not affiliated with the insurance industry. 25 Medicare. Call 25 Medicare or go to Medicare4Mike.com. Medicare4Mike.com. Here's a lot of, this is about 50-50. Connecticut sends me a text on the MyPillow text line. The never-ending war proponents need to abandon the notion of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Russia was an ally in World War II. Afghanistan was a friend when they were fighting Russia? Sometimes we have to let them kill each other off and let God sort it out. Well, a little cynical approach. I'm not sure I'd go with that. But Tom makes a point. Tom makes a point. How far should our funding for Ukraine go? And what are we going to do if and when that dreadful moment occurs when Russia decides to retaliate against us? Kenny is in St. Louis, Missouri. Hey, Kenny, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. How are you today? Just fine. How are you, Mike? I'm great, sir. What's up?
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All right. Well, the forever war, I'm not for it, but I believe that we are obligated to keep spending money there.
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I see. Are we obligated?
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to back them if they gave up their nuclear weapons.
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Sure. So should we back them and go to war with Russia, Kenny? You want to go to war with Russia?
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No, but here's the deal.
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What are we going to do if they retaliate? What are we going to do if they retaliate? What if Russia decides they're cornered? What if they're so frustrated at our support for Ukraine that Russia decides to retaliate against us?
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Let me ask you this. What are we going to do if Russia attacks a NATO country?
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We gave our word to them, too. You just changed the subject. I want you to stay focused. Do you want to go to war with Russia or not? No, I don't. Why not? We gave our word to Ukraine to help them, you said, Kenny.
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I said I don't want to, but we may have to.
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Oh, we may have to.
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We gave our word to protect them.
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Got it.
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I don't get it. I don't remember.
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So you think it's worth losing American lives in a battle, in a war with Russia, which would likely be a nuclear war, because you say we gave our word to Ukraine that we'd have their back? You realize what that sounds like?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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You know what I mean? Our word has no meaning whatsoever.
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Then let's go to war with Russia, Kenny. Let's get into a nuclear conflict with Russia because we gave our word to Ukraine, right?
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Well, if that's what it turns out to be. Don't make promises you can't keep.
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If that's what it turns out to be. Now, I don't mean this to be disrespectful because you sound like a great guy. I have a hunch you're not, you and I aren't in a fighting age. So when you're committing troops, I'll bet that doesn't involve you or your kids, does it? No, it doesn't, but Vietnam was. Well, God bless you, and we appreciate your service. And you gave ably, and you served this country. Now don't expect us to have your grandkids serve this country in a war with Russia. Kenny, I mean this with love, and I mean this with respect. You don't want us to go to war with Russia. Period. And at some point, we've got to turn off the spigot. At some point, enough is enough. At some point, we've got to realize that there's a reason that the Bill Crystals of the world are all, and the Mike Pence's of the world, are enamored with supporting Ukraine. Because they never met a forever war they didn't like. Period. How about we pay our debts? How about we get our own act in order? How about we get our house in order? How about we pass the big, beautiful bill, And ramp down our massive debt before we keep giving billions and billions and billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine. Look, I admit, I'm surprised at the amount of callers who are in favor of funding Ukraine. It's intriguing to me. And I appreciate it. Look, Kenny, I appreciate your point of view. We all agree to disagree today, but that's okay. And I've got Robert here in Michigan. Same thing. Fund Ukraine. Let me let me quickly. And I'm up against a clock here. I'm up against a hard break, Robert. But let me quickly ask you, you want to go to war with Russia?
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If I get a chance to elaborate, if we have to go to war with Russia, we do. But here's the real deal. I'm the smartest person that ever called your call. I'll tell you some stuff. There's always been the big bad wolf at the door. The generals and admirals go to say we need this many nukes. We need the boomer submarines. We need all these bombs. The truth of the matter is Russia's nuclear stockpile is a mess. It's left over from the old USSR. Most of the stuff will blow up in the silos or on launch.
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Like I said, I'm fighting the clock on this one. Again, as smart as you are, I can't get past your opening sentence. If we go to war with Russia, so be it.
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Yes, because they will surrender, because they know they cannot possibly win.
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I got you. We're going to beat Russia in a war. Okay, thank you, Robert. A couple of old-timers. And look, and I say that with respect. I respect my elders, but we got a lot of older Americans are calling this show saying, hey, so be it. Let's go to war with Russia. Okay, let's go right ahead. We'll beat them. Yeah, like I said, Robert, you don't want to play that game. You're playing a game of chicken with somebody else's kids. Maybe your own. Maybe your grandkids. And I think there's just people that sit around and say they never met a war, a conflict that they didn't salivate over. So it's a new day. 2025 is a new time. And here's the good news. Here's the great news. We've got a president, we've got a commander-in-chief who I believe with all of my heart is going to handle this and is going to figure this out. And that's why we've got to keep praying for the Trump administration. Because we got a mess on our hands that he's going to have to sort out. And you can tell from his actions and what he's saying about Putin. And he is not Putin's stooge. He is not Putin's ally. He just doesn't want to pick a fight with a war that your neighbor's kids are going to have to fight.
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I started my day talking to my buddy Mark Davis about spending too much time on my phone. I do. I'll go down a rabbit hole. Man, I'll spend a half hour, 45 minutes. I'll want to go somewhere and I'll sit down and I'll start scrolling. My kids call it doom scrolling. One of my kids says, Dad, stop doom scrolling. And he's right. I spend way too much time on it. But there's so much good stuff out there and so much to deal with. So much to tackle right now. And I saw a clip of Eric Swalwell, that Trump-hating Democrat in Congress, who mocked President Trump by eating a taco. Taco is the newest pejorative, the newest name-calling they're coming up with, the newest moniker they're trying to hang around President Trump's neck. TACO stands for Trump Always Chickens Out. You know, the other day, that goofball governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, stood up and said, we got to bully the blank out of Trump. We got to get meaner and we got to bully him. Which is quite the declaration from a former teacher. Wasn't he a coach? But now, evidently, he's an advocate of bullying, as long as we bully the right people. And if you bully Trump, well, certainly you've got to bully MAGA. You've got to bully anybody with a red MAGA hat on or drives a Tesla or has an American flag in their yard. I mean, you know, they're probably one of those. They're probably a Trump supporter. So the newest trick is to call him Taco. Trump always chickens out. You stop and think about what Trump has been through as a person, just as a human being. Forget the 45th and 47th president of the United States. Incidentally, isn't it great to see the chart of presidents and how they have to put all the pictures of the presidents? And you got Trump 45, Biden 46, and Trump 47. Isn't that great? Nobody else has that claim, right? Maybe there's one other. I don't know. In the 1800s, did somebody... Grover Cleveland maybe did the same thing. So it's Donald and Grover. So now they're saying Trump always chickens out. I love what Joe Rogan said about Trump the other day. And it got a lot of response on this show because it was so... It was so pitch perfect.
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It's also like, they're like, oh, he's a crazy person. Like, yeah, that's the only kind of person that would survive what you try to do to him. Right. That's the only kind of guy that gets through. Like, you want a perfect person? A perfect person morally falls apart by the time they've been indicted and they've 34 counts, felony counts. Like, your whole body is just destroyed by the stress of you possibly going to jail for the rest of your life. You have to be a... insane person to ride that out and not look like anything even happened then you get shot you get up after you got shot you're bleeding from your ear and you go fight fight fight you gotta be a crazy person to get through he's a nightmare for anybody that's trying to rig a system that guy's the nightmare he's the final boss of you you know they're gonna spend the rest of time studying evaluating
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and dissecting this man. There's been nobody like him in history. Nobody comes close. Newt Gingrich posted on X, So Taco, Trump always chickens out, is the newest fake smear of the man who endured an FBI-CIA smear, a two-year investigation, two impeachment efforts, a rigged 2020 election, four efforts to put him in jail, and two assassination attempts. Trump endures and prevails would be a more accurate comment. That would be T-Ape. T-E-A-P. T-E-A-P. Trump endures and prevails. The Tim Walz comment really got to me because, as Austin and Clearwater puts it, Tim Walz is one of the least intimidating... Men walking the planet. He thinks he's going to bully the guy? Who stood up and said fight, fight, fight after he got shot? They have such rage and violent impulses with such noodle arms. It's hilarious. I mean, it's true. There could be a lot of it. You want taco? Here's one from South Carolina. Taco. Trump always conquers others. That would be the right acronym. And this is what they do, though. This is what they're left with. I'm not even going to play the stupid Eric Swalwell clip of him sitting at his desk shoving a taco in his mouth. And incidentally, mouth open. He eats with his mouth open. Food coming out of his mouth. Just gross. These people are gross. Gross. I wonder if Eric Swalwell's getting enough fruits and vegetables in his system. Maybe he ought to consider balance in nature. Yes, even Eric Swalwell could benefit from fruits and veggies in capsule form. Portions of our show sponsored by Balance of Nature, their method of producing a vibrant nutritional supplement second to none. Balance of Nature is made solely from whole food ingredients. Message is pretty simple. It's just fruits and vegetables in capsule form. Balance of Nature packs a nutritional punch, and that's the whole reason for taking a Balance of Nature in the first place, to get the most nutrition for the sake of your health. Use my discount code MikeG. We'll get you 35% off plus free shipping and their money-back guarantee. Got to use the discount code MikeG. Call 800-246-8751. 800-246-8751. Use the discount code MikeG. Or order balanceofnature.com. Balanceofnature.com. You can order online. Use the discount code MikeG so we can get you 35% off plus free shipping. Balance of Nature. Fruits and vegetables in capsule form. It's as simple as that. What happened in Boulder, Colorado was a terrorist attack. It is as simple as that. Yesterday we spent some time. wondering why Trump haters and the legacy media denied it was a terrorist attack. Jonathan Turley, the legal scholar and professor, broke it down on Fox News yesterday.
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This is a classic terrorism case. What the evidence shows is that there was preparation, rather deadly preparation, his intention to target people over their religion, and clearly an effort to terrorize this community. So this is a lead pipe cinch of a case for terrorism. The bringing of initial charges are often placeholders for the federal government to say that they have an outstanding charge against an individual. There's often tension or at least some coordination between the federal government and state governments in crimes like this. There may be, frankly, less deference with regard to Boulder because it has a rather liberal record in terms of enforcement. But they have to work out together who will proceed.
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Look, let's go up the dial to CNN or down the dial. Scott Jennings with a pretty profound observation about Boulder and the terrorist attack.
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I mean, this is horrific. And what more do we need to see, Jake, before we realize this free Palestine movement is nothing more than a domestic terror organization right now? I mean, we had the killings in Washington a couple of weeks ago. We had this issue in Colorado. We've seen, you know, the activities on college campuses now for months and months and months and months. The rise of anti-Semitism in America, the rise in the number of people who have come to America who hold anti-American views, anti-Western views and anti-Semitic views and are now willing to act on it. It is absolutely outrageous. And I think as a society, we need to understand we are dealing with domestic terrorism. It's growing more violent by the day. And if we don't deal with it, these kinds of things are going to keep happening in cities all over the place. It's awful. And we need to come to grips with the fight that we're in right now in America, a fight for the future of our country and the future of Western civilization, in my opinion.
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I wonder how bad an attack is going to have to be before the angry, violent, vicious left realizes how bad it could get for us. Fox News Channel's Kennedy with the final word on this subject before we turn it over to you.
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This anti-Semitism, this malignant anti-Semitism that has taken hold and it's deadly in this country. And when it's not deadly, that is accidental because it is intended to take as many lives and cause as much harm as possible. And, you know, unfortunately, some of the most vocal members of the free, free Palestine movement are also very murderous. If the media turns away, are you doing it in a way that is almost complicit and fanning the flames of other hateful people who really would like to, in their own awful way, accomplish what the Nazis did during World War II at those camps?
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You could take another approach like Keith Olbermann or Maria Kaldon or whatever her name is on CNN. Blame Trump for Boulder. Blame Trump for the terrorist attacks. My friend Mark Davis this morning said something pretty profound. I remember years and years ago, I got in trouble. Somebody called me out because I said, not all Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists are Muslims. And that was true then. And that's what we were facing. And Mark kind of coined that phrase or did a little bit of an edit on that. Not all leftists... are violent jihadists. But the violent jihadists are all leftists. And that's what the media and the Democrats are terrified of. Where do you hear the way Mark Halperin and Sean Spicer They had a panel talking about how Democrats need to respond to the violent terrorism we're seeing in the streets of America, fueled by the radical leftists who are all about anti-Semitism. We'll share that with you in just a moment. Stick around for that. Our number is 800-655-MICRO in the Relief Factor studios.