In this episode, Dana Lash covers a range of intriguing topics from the evolving landscape of political leadership to the intricacies of gun rights and public perceptions. Featuring special guest Donald Trump Jr., the conversation explores the challenges and triumphs of staying resilient in the fast-paced world of politics. Whether it's the latest on executive orders or the humorous narration of personal experiences, this episode delivers an entertaining and informative perspective.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you, broadcasting live from SHOT Show, National Shooting Sports Foundation's annual event, industry event, special event in Vegas. You can listen across the country. We're in hundreds of markets. Also, check out the live stream, Channel 347, DirecTV, Rumble, X. You guys know where to go. You guys want to know about my guest who's sitting right here because you can see on the wide shot, Donald Trump Jr., Has joined us.
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Yeah.
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And this is my first time in person to be able to say congratulations on the biggest historical comeback. I actually think that he did more than like Churchill's comeback.
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Yeah. I will say sort of the most resilient man in the history of politics, because when you think about the. amount of times he was counted out not just you know in 15 when he had zero chance or whatever but like just throughout the the attacks the persecutions the lawfare the bullshit it just it just never stopped and so uh he just keeps coming back and you know what honestly then i think the last four years were actually required to do it right yeah right had you just rolled over the 2020 crew Like, you had the same can kickers. We're just going to wait it out. We're just going to wait it out. But, you know, now we know. We know the people who are good. We know the people who are loyal. And those concentric circles do not overlap very much. And so, you know, you just see the team that's getting put into place. Like, we can effectuate real change. And I think you've seen in the first two days just the stuff that they're rolling out.
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I'm not even doing what he's doing. And I'm, like, exhausted, like, reading. I was going through all the executive orders. And he sat there and what cracked me up. What your dad did is like it started, as you know, I'm over there. He starts at the event, like after he made his speech. Then they just bring out the desk. He's signing these executive orders. And I was like, he's actually doing this right now. That is amazing. And then he's talking after every single one of them. Oh, yeah, this one's... Normally, I would not want to sit through that much policy, but I love the quips that he was given about each of them.
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We're there, and it's a stadium. There's like 20,000 people just full to the rafters, and they're cheering each executive order, just getting rid of the tyranny that's been around us. So, no, it's been amazing. It's been amazing. I think it wasn't just the four years that helped educate us how to do things better this time around. In 2016, we had no way of knowing, right? You think people are going to be loyal on your side. You think because they have an R next to their name, they're going to be good. No. That is a gross misconception. Oh, yeah. But more importantly, I think the American people had to suffer through the last four years, and maybe even the world, just to understand how important it is to actually have strength and leadership from the Oval Office.
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Because you have a Diet Coke button. Is that real?
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I think the Diet Coke button's real. It's right next to the YouTube button. You don't even know?
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You're the firstborn son.
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I keep seeing it. I'm like, I don't know if that's really a Diet Coke button or the call, but we're going to go with it. We're going to go with it.
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That was literally the first thing I was going to ask you. I know there's other important stuff, but I'm like, I've seen so much.
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You just don't want to mix it up with the other big red button on the desk because you make a mistake there and that could be problematic.
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That could be bad. You ended up bombing North Korea and you just wanted a Diet Coke, right? Yeah, I get it. We're talking with Donald Trump Jr. I'm so glad. I guess it was six months ago. That was – I've never been actually legitimately scared like that about my country. And I have to say, you were very kind because we were coming in through NASA. We were out in the islands in Exuma. I was out there fishing, doing all that stuff. I land, and my phone is exploding. And you're texting me. Everybody's texting me. And I look, and there was no news yet.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, I never like bombard you with messages or anything like that. But I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm in NASA. I'm out of the country. I don't want to be out of the country when, you know, the leader, the next leader of the free world is in. We don't know anything about it. It was scary.
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I was halfway to you. I got the rare call from my daughter that day to be like, I want to go fishing. I'm like. You know, that doesn't happen. No, you're going for that. You're just going. I was like, I'll be ready in an hour. Like, let me go get baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're out there having a great day. And then my phone starts blowing up. And I'm like, you know, I'm an hour from home. And I'm, you know, 20 miles offshore. And I'm like, uh... I'm trying to tell my 17-year-old daughter, like, hey, your grandfather's been shot. And by the way, I didn't know anything. So I just got a call, but I tried calling out, and there was no comms. They shut down all comms. I was like, I didn't know for an hour and a half. I made the, well, I guess I can't say land speed record, but the water speed record back into Jupiter where we live. The whole family got to my house by that time. It was 90 minutes before we knew anything. And so, you know, that was sort of, my daughter was the one that spoke at the RNC. That's Kai.
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She's amazing. Well done, Dad.
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Well, she's never been political. She's 17. She's a 17 year old girl. Right. But it was the next morning. Well, and it's also her golf buddy because she's the golfer. So she's I mean, she plays with him, you know, two days a week. And so she called me that next morning was like, I'm speaking at the RNC. I'm basically sick of this crap. Good for her. I'm like, your first speech is going to be in front of 40,000 people and tens of millions on TV.
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Yeah, she's going big, Dad.
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She's got some Trump gene. Yeah. And I called my dad. I was like, listen, this is the play. He goes, whoa, that's a big one. And he just literally was like, he thought about it for a second. He was just like, you know what? That kid's a winner. Let her do it. And she crushed it. And I think... I knew she hit home when the next morning the ladies of The View were crapping on a 17-year-old girl. You know what I mean? I'm like, that's a win.
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I mean, that's hard for you as a dad to see.
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It is, but I'm so not... I'm, I'm, I'm blessed with the ability to not give a crap. I could care less what anyone thinks about me. You've probably seen that over a while. You know, it's like, uh, you know, I have, I have that, but it's harder for a 17 year old girl, but I think she, she saw it then. And like, it was just great. And, uh,
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Well, she's seen you be attacked. She's seen her grandfather be attacked.
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Yeah, so she was the only one able to humanize him. For years. By the way, he's got that. He understands it. I will say his biggest political liability is he actually has a lot of empathy. But he looks at it from this sort of old school mentality of like, I can't negotiate against Putin or Xi or any of the other dictators if they think I'm nice and soft. And so... she hit home because she was the one person to humanize them in the entire RNC. And, you know, but I think honestly, just the American people saw it, you know, that July 13th, like you get shot in the face. Everyone's a tough guy these days on the internet, right? Yeah. We've seen plenty of that. Like we all deal with the bullshit. Um, But to come back defiant in the face of that, it's like, you know what? Maybe you are a badass. Or there's something a higher power looking to do right by America. Because I don't care if you have a lot of faith or none whatsoever. Whatever level of faith you had, it moved towards a lot of faith. That was divine. That had to be.
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That was divine.
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As a shooter, it was funny. I was explaining it to him in the days afterwards. He's like, well, no, it's 150 yards. That's pretty far. He's a golfer. So 150 yards to put it in a hole. Golf math versus gun math. Yeah, that's hard. I love those. As a guy that was a ranked competitive shooter, I'm like, yeah. Like if I missed that shot, I'd shoot myself or like just, you know, like so just explaining like, no, no, you don't understand. Like there's divine providence involved, you know, in all of this. It's insane.
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I were talking with Donald Trump Jr. for those listening and not watching the simulcast, which you should be. I thought immediately, and I was going to tweet it, but I didn't. But I should have, because I said he gets shot, and then like a month later, two months later, he calls for national reciprocity.
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Yeah, well, listen.
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That's hardcore. I love it. God bless him for that.
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Listen, I guess I've probably been, let's call it a not-so-subtle voice in his ear in all of these things, because I understand. This is my world.
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Can I just interrupt for a bit? For the people who don't know, you're not a gun bunny. You're like a legitimate... Although that would go viral if you get me in a bikini with a gun.
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Finger on the trigger, just breaking all the rules, but it's like, I'm kind of hot. My ab, or as many call it, a keg. There's no six-pack, it's, you know, get the full dad bod going. I could make a lot of money as a gun bunny, but not in the conventional sense.
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you actually hunt, you do your own reloads, you do like, I mean, you, I actually know what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, you know what you're talking about. When people are like, how many guns do you have? I'm like, just lower your voice.
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I remember Pota saying, well, he's got a lot. Don's got a lot of guns.
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I got in trouble one time when they're, you know, they do one of these things like someone's busted and they, you know, they've got 500 rounds in his car and three guns. I'm like, That's nothing. I'm like, what are you talking about? I don't even understand. But no, I've been doing this for a long time. I've been in that world. I was a competitive shooter for a long time. I have an outdoor company.
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We're going to talk about that.
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Well, yeah, the Field Ethos, which is sort of the hunting sort of adventure lifestyle brand. And then in my business life, I've been taking like these sort of, let's call it like, you know, right wing economy stuff, you know, public. Which is super important. Public square, public. They then brought Cordova, which is sort of, you know, the buy now, pay later option. Because, hey, so many of our people, they've been getting, you know, debanked. You can't get insurance. You can't do this. So we're literally.
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It's like a syntax to the nth degree.
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Correct. And now we're taking Grab-A-Gun public.
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That's amazing. So tell people who don't know what it is. Tell them what Grab-A-Gun is.
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Well, Grab-A-Gun, you know, online gun dealer, you know, incredible tech stack, right? So we're trying to get people who wouldn't buy guns the way they're conventionally buying it. As women, and honestly, as leftists, as people are like, you know what? We actually need to be able to defend ourselves. I mean, I'm watching this sort of great opening. for people who aren't otherwise gun people to be like okay i still need this you know and then just trying to make that accessible for the average person but more importantly as we watch people get debanked like we're putting our money where our mouth is like you know if people want to buy you know a gun company stock now you can do that so we're taking that you know that's huge because that's what's happening with so many of these gun companies as you know Oh, yeah. Well, and you see it. You're getting debanked. And so as we're doing that and vertically integrating all these systems. So, again, you know, public square, which you can, you know, under PSQH, you know, on the NASDAQ, we're going to take. Grab a gun public on New York Stock Exchange. And then integrating these technologies, it's great. So like people can actually, retail guys, right now you can buy it under CLBR as the ticker because what you have is sort of doing it under SPAC. So you have a shell company that will merge with actually grab a gun. It'll automatically become PEW. That is, I would say it's serendipitous, but that sounds on purpose. I like it. Eventually, but like for those of us who have been bitching about all these things. And we have a lot of people that complain, not a lot of people that actually do anything about it. So me and some friends, as we've watched this attack and we have sort of the sophistication to do that, we say, hey, we're going to actually not just help support these companies publicly, but we're actually going to take them public. We're going to be dealing with the biggest bankers in the world. We're going to make this, which should be. I mean, it's the Second Amendment. I mean, we're going to make it mainstream. We're also going to allow these guys to have a great tech stack so that we can get to those people and show other people how they can buy this. But for the retail guys, again, you can buy it now under CLBR. We want to have Americans have a chance. Buy two shares. Buy five shares. Buy 100 shares. You can do all of that now, and you can actually put your money in the stuff that you believe in because there's been a gross attack recently. Uh, for so long. So really excited to do this with, with grab a gun. And it's just the beginning. We're going to make this, you know, you, you, you know, it as well as anyone, how many of your advertisers, how many of the institutional guys, how many of the banks that you even, you know, I've been debanked. I've been canceled. I've been this. I was like, you know what? I got enough guys with. I'll just say it with balls now to be like, now we're out there in the mainstream. I don't want to get us all into trouble.
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You had BS. You're fine with that.
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But, you know, there has been a real attack on so many of the things that we actually believe in. So we're fighting back, not just... You're like, hey, I'll post a picture with a gun. But like, no, no, we're actually companies public. Exactly. These are going to be publicly traded. We're going to make it OK. And since those companies and so many of the institutions and all of the downstream stuff has been so anti-gun, so anti-freedom, so anti-hunting. We're just going to go all in out there. I love it. If people can help support that, we open the door for people to be unafraid. Yeah. I like that. My father's done that. Other guys have done that. Elon sort of did that for the tech bros. And now you're seeing it. And this is happening for two ways.
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They're coming back and they're like... Because you've had leftists infiltrate these companies, buy up shares, and then they start directing company operations and the ideology for the companies.
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They're happy to take your money and then use it to fund...
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you know anti-gun groups and all of this stuff and it's like this is insane and it's happening in the outdoor space like you know i don't even need to name the companies but we all know uh no more we're gonna actually have patriots buying these companies so i so national reciprocity i also we're talking about the office of gun violence prevention uh michael clout out of texas congressman out of texas introduced a bill called the no registry act that And apparently, even though we're not allowed to have a federal registry because that's federally prohibited, the ATF has been keeping hundreds of thousands of actually millions of purchase records, which kind of is a backdoor registry. And that's something that I think people are aware of, but it's not at the forefront. Cloud is introducing a bill to ban that outright. Right.
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I love all of that stuff. Listen, I was heavily involved in transition, which is, I think, why we have the team we have. And in 16, again, we wouldn't have known. Now we know. And so people were pretty deferential to me on a lot of these things. Like, hey, what do we do about these problems? Because, again, there's sort of the surface stuff that most people understand, and then there's the nuance underneath it that you have to understand. I mean, I got a lot of help. I mean, even in 16, when they're like... You didn't sign here in protection. I'm like, put it on our desk. Like it doesn't work. The president can't. He can't go.
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He's going to get attacked.
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So there's a difference between the soundbite and reality. But now you have an entire team of people that gets it. So there's a lot I think they'll now do with ATF, with all of that. I mean, you know, obviously you're seeing the turnover rate and all that stuff already starting.
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What's going to happen with ATF? I mean, I know you and I both would love that.
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I know what I want. I would love for it to go bye-bye. We'll see. But again, for the last few months, I've been very involved in a lot of conversations.
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Why not you for ATF?
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Because the reality is I think I can be loud. I can be a soundboard for all of the good decisions. I set up the right people into those positions, let them govern. But it can't just come from government, which is why it's so important what we're doing. Again, CLBR, we're taking a gun company public. Yeah. No one has the guts to do that, right? So you actually need sort of the corporate side. You need the free market side to do it well. If the government does it but you still have the shadow banks, you still have the banks doing what they're doing, you still have the credit guys doing what they're doing. So, again, between Public Square, Cordova, Grab-A-Gun, I mean, these are all companies that we're making mainstream. People can actually invest in them. I want to handle the real world side of that. put into the right team for the government side of that. And those two functioning sort of simultaneously, not together, obviously they're not linked, but like having people that understand that overall mission.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's everything. Yeah. And so, you know, we're in the process of doing that. So it's not just, yeah, again, not just a gun bunny. We're actually putting, you know, money.
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Anyone who would ever actually seriously say that about you.
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But again, everyone's on the internet, right? Like, you know, the reality is like when they were doing, well, Maga's really afraid of Tim Wallace because he's a hunter and a shooter. I'm like, I don't know, man. I've never seen a wrist so limp. And when I watch a guy not be able to load a Beretta A400, I'm like... How is that a struggle for you? You hand me three shells and a blindfold and a gun. I'll do it in... But that was his favorite gun to go hunting with. He really played it up. I'm like, you know what? My favorite gun? I know how to load it. You know, there is a difference. By the way, you don't have to give me, like, you can give me any gun. I'll know how to load it. It's not that hard.
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I'm going to interject real quick. We got you for a few more minutes because I only have two questions for you. And one of them is going to be of, you know, maybe future politics. He's like, great. What are you signing up for? We're going to take a quick break. We're back, finishing up. A few more minutes with Donald Trump Jr. here live from SHOT Show, Kel-Tex booth, NSSF. Stick with us. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top-rated precious metals company GoldCo to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. GoldCo has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you, broadcasting live from SHOT Show in Las Vegas, NSSF's annual event. And we are here finishing out the last few minutes with Donald Trump Jr. Thanks so much for joining us.
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It's my pleasure. I know you're tired, man. But I'm still at SHOT Show. I know. Because you really like us. I went from one zoo to another. Right. I know.
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And you've been busy with your companies. Yes. We were just talking about this on break. The idea of the average everyday citizen being able to... have shares in a firearms manufacturing company and be able to take ownership, partnership of that. That's not something that's typically a reality for the average everyday person, but you're making that possible by making it accessible.
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I'm just trying to open that door. You know, I'm a believer. I was at SHOT Show before politics, right? Yeah, you've been there a long time. It's like, oh, now I have to be a gun guy. He's not like Tim Walls. But, you know, just being able to do that, fight back that way. So, like I said, between Public Square, which we took public, and that's going to be a whole payment stack for everything we brought. Kudrova, under that, and now taking... Grab a gun. Taking grab a gun public under CLBR right now. And that will automatically turn into P-E-W, Pew. Pew, Pew, which is amazing. I want to ask you real quick. Get out there and buy some stock. We want to make sure that we have the road map to take these other guys to company.
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We've got 30 seconds left. When are you running for office?
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Real fast. Oh, God. No time soon because someone has to do the outside stuff too. But I also helped us set up a bench with a J.D. Vance and some of these other guys that can take America First forward.
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Excellent. John's familiar with the Dexter Taylor story. Any help that we could get with the Dexter Taylor story?
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It's sort of like us, right? It's like New York, yeah. It's done in New York. They do it in the state so you can't get that federal pardon, right? They tried going after us that way. My father's guilty. It's all nonsense. So we've got to fix these problems because they shouldn't be happening and they shouldn't be weaponizing government.
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Donald Trump Jr., congratulations.
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Thank you so much, Dana.
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Biggest political comeback.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so now there's a lot of discussion about AI being used to treat mental health. And it comes from this piece that says, my therapist is a bot, the rise of AI in mental health treatments. That's kind of, I don't know how I feel about that. Like that's, couldn't that manipulate people? I'm sorry, I can't do that, Dave. I'm really sorry about that. Sorry, Dave. It's just weird to me. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. Earth's magnetic north pole is on the move. Scientists just updated its position. Oh, but I thought that the world was flat and that this didn't revolve. Oh, wait. No, that's a new story. New model tracking of the position of the magnetic North Pole so that the pole is not closer to Siberia than it was five years ago. It's drifting downwards towards Russia. An Australian influencer is charged with poisoning her baby for clicks. for clicks. This... I hate the term influencer. An Australian influencer charged with poisoning her baby girl to elicit donations, make people feel bad for her, and boost her online followers. She's... She pretended that her kid had a terminal illness and she was poisoning this baby. 34 years old. She was charged with torture, administering poison, making child exploitation material, and fraud. I mean... Life isn't enough. She was trying to raise money on GoFundMe for herself. It's not enough. If you're feeling angry, venting doesn't help, says a new study per the BBC. The idea of venting your anger apparently doesn't help. It doesn't make you calm down by letting it.
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That's not what I've been told, and that's not what I've experienced. I think that's wrong. I think so, too.
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I think these are all lies, and I don't believe a single bit of it. So, no. Let's see. This... I've never heard of this. Cow gallstones. So, like, the gallstones from a cow are apparently a big enough thing to steal. People have been breaking into slaughterhouses to steal cow gallstones, and they say it's twice as valuable as gold. Suddenly, I want cattle. It's like they're hardened nuggets of bile. It's really prevalent in Brazil. And they're orange. You know what they look like? They look like hush puppies. They look like hush puppies. Yeah. They said they're orange colored, hardened cattle gallstones. It is one of the most treasured ingredients in traditional Chinese medicine. And now it's like being used for all kinds of stuff. Selling them aren't it's not illegal in Brazil, but it's now a big flourishing practice, though. The trade for it underground. That is OK. That that takes like sweet bread. And goes above and beyond. That's absolutely insane. That is absolutely insane. So, you know, I mean, what would it sell for? I'm so interested in this story. Okay, I got more. Huh? I know, but can you just buy cattle and feed them a diet? That would be mean. Feed them a diet that would make them have it. I don't know. On this day in history, 1814, the first Knights Templar great encampment in New York City. And Roe v. Wade, which is now undone, was decided in 1973. Very interesting. Ice teams are out in force with deportations per numerous reporting. They're out in force there. It's underway. It has started. Tom Holman sitting back there. His eyes turned red like lasers. And he's, you know, deploy, deploy ICE agents. It is a big week, and we're not just talking about Inauguration Day. Caltech has officially unveiled their brand-new pistol, the PR-57, and it's causing a huge buzz, over a million views on the release video already. And you need to see why. Visit caltechweapons.com slash Dana today, right now. Check it out. It's the Kel-Tec PR57. It's a revolutionary compact concealed carry pistol chambered in 5.7. It's ultra-lightweight, 20-round capacity. And here's what's the kicker. It's a unique top-loading design. It's slim, simple, and practical. You're not going to have a magazine. In fact, the PR57 loads directly into the grip. It's a rotary barrel design, and it reduces weight by 40% compared to the other 5.7 millimeters on the market. And it's not just innovative. It's built for real-world performance with ease of use in mind. So for a limited time, you can win your own Kel-Tec. Just head over to Kel-TecWeapons.com slash Dana. Enter their SHOT Show Week giveaway right before midnight Thursday. That's a deadline. The winner, I'll announce it live on air. The winner, Friday, January 24th. So don't miss your chance to own the future of concealed carry. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com slash Dana. Kel-Tec. Innovation performance made in the USA. I want to play some audio for you as well that we're going to get into and pull this up. We're having some internet issues right now, meaning that it doesn't exist. This is the way it is. We need Starlink over here. Can I play this, Audio Soundbite 9, because they're still rolling with not having... They're still rolling with that Musk is Hitler thing. Listen to this.
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This is the United States of America. And... I don't care what Elon Musk is doing behind a presidential seal in this country. We hate Nazis. Kind of like a foundational defining thing to probably the most foundational defining things about American history is that we beat the Confederates and we beat the Nazis.
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Well, they beat socialists and she's a socialist. You know, the left, I actually had an argument one time. I can't remember where this was. Oh, I think it was in the green room of real time when I was on real time. And it was somebody from Daily Kos, Daily Kos, who was arguing with me about how you can't say that they're just socialists. I'm like, do you realize that's what Nazi means? It's national socialist. You barely literate. consequence of cousin coupling like how in the world do you not understand basic history not everyone I'm so tired of it not everyone is Hitler but you know what where they're all like Elon Musk is Hitler because he threw his heart and he made he had like you know his arm out for a second where were where was AOC when they were like beating Jewish students on college campuses I thought she hated Hitler. Where where was AOC when they were they were beating down Jewish students on campus or when they were going after when the guy who was going to synagogue got shot and killed in New York? Where was AOC? That was in her city. Where was AOC then? Decrying something, something Hitler. Where was she at over that? Does anybody know? No, nobody has any clue. Nobody has any idea at all whatsoever. So typical. That's so I really just don't take where she had about the hostages, American hostages still being held by Hamas or Iran through Hamas attacking a longtime ally in the Middle East. Where was she at? silent over that. But Elon Musk, he makes a move where he takes his still beating heart and pretends to throw it to the audience to demonstrate his love and appreciation of them. And because he outstretches his arm to pretend throw his imaginary still beating heart, she says it's Hitler. But again, still silent when Jewish people were beating in the streets. Just want to make sure I got that right, right? Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. She's, you know what? I tend to think that she ran for office because she was a bad bartender. I mean.
SPEAKER 08 :
Can you be bad at bartending?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. You can be bad. She just doesn't. I don't think she's got it.
SPEAKER 08 :
hand people already bottled drinks and barely having to mix anything?
SPEAKER 10 :
Or what if she tries to make a cocktail? Oh, I'm sorry, they call that mixology. I feel like I'm in that movie, what was it, White Christmas with Danny Kaye, and he's making fun of dancing and saying, no, it's choreography now. I feel like it's mixology now. It's just not making a cocktail. It's mixology.
SPEAKER 08 :
I have known some really good bartenders, by the way. So this is no insult, but this is an insult to AOC because clearly she couldn't hang it as a bartender.
SPEAKER 10 :
Would you want to talk to that if you're ordering a drink? I would have been grabbing... I mean, if I had a... I'm just saying, if I had a bartender who was out annoying, I'd be grabbing her hair and she'd be kissing the bar, I think. You know? I mean... Come on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let's not do that. Not do what? Let's not do the violence.
SPEAKER 10 :
I didn't say that. She would have fallen on the bar and me being magnanimous and genuine and very helpful.
SPEAKER 08 :
That sounds like it's Gravity's fault.
SPEAKER 10 :
I would be helping pick her up off of it.
SPEAKER 08 :
That would be Gravity's fault at that point. That's right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, come on.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm with you there. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, come on, Cain, thank you. It's really disappointing. This, Elise Stefanik, audio soundbite 11. She goes after Chris Murphy. Did you see Chris Murphy? No, you guys, you know why you guys didn't see Chris Murphy on X? Because you guys have lives. That's why. Because you have lives. Play this audio, because this is Stefanik just ripping his endocrine system out through his nose.
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What do you think of... Elon Musk, perhaps the president's most visible advisor, doing two Heil Hitler salutes last night at the president's televised rally.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, Elon Musk did not do those salutes. I was not at the rally, but I can tell you I've been at many rallies with Elon Musk, who loves to cheer when President Trump says we need to send our U.S. space program to Mars. Elon Musk is a visionary. I'm looking forward to his work in Doge. the Department of Government Efficiency and look forward to looking how we can be more efficient and effective. But that is simply not the case. And to say so is the American people are smart. They see through it. They support Elon Musk. We are proud to be the country of such successful entrepreneurs. That is one of our greatest strengths as Americans.
SPEAKER 10 :
There you go right there.
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That is the President of the United States. That was one of his really cool and calm press conferences that he had. He had a really crazy first full day. I mean, hell, he had a very busy first inaugural evening. And he went in and he was working hard. you know immediately uh going right to work signing a combined 200 executive orders uh we got a lot to get into welcome dana lash here with you we are broadcasting live from shot show i'm in what i call the snow white box it's we're at caltech's booth and i need to put some stuff up on social i just remember that we're at caltech's booth at shot show now if you're unfamiliar with what shot is. It's the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which is the kind of the lobbying arm for manufacturers. It's the organization's annual event. So you got all the people that come in and they've got the stuff that they're coming out with in the new year. You spot new trends, there's new technologies, there's all kinds of stuff. And this is what unveils all of it and so we are here live i was broadcast from here but this is the first time we're doing this simulcast and so it's uh going to be interesting we got a lot of big guests for you today uh scheduled for later in the program we got uh donald trump jr who's going to be joining us and he's here he flew in flying in from dc so he's uh expected to join us a little later Additionally, we're going to talk, you know, there's a bunch of other people. There's some really interesting two-way cases that are working its way through the courts, working their way through the courts. We're going to talk to some of the folks behind that. We've got all of the latest with the, not just the executive orders and their implementation, what it means going into this new year, this new term. So we have a lot to hit. So again, welcome. You can listen coast to coast. You can catch the simulcast on Channel 347 Direct TV. You can follow us on X. The chat is at Rumble. Crazy, busy day, and we got all of it. All right, so first and foremost, if you guys saw this last night, this is part of one of those delivered promises. So two things, and if you are a subscriber over at Substack, chapter and verse, you saw this go out last night. Very, very good development. So there's three things you've got to keep your eye on. First and foremost, he announced yesterday that he is closing the office of, they call it the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention. It's the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, and they are shuttering that department. Remember, that was the department that was created. And Kamala Harris was put in charge of it. You know, she's the border was the borders are Kamala Harris is put in charge of it. The Office for Gun Violence Prevention was was implementing the bipartisan safer communities. And that was the big gun control package that went through. A lot of Republicans got some criticism over that. In fact, we talked to one of them. This was back in 2022 when that act was passed. The Office of Gun Violence Prevention kicked off in, that was founded in September of 23. And that was partly to help implement that stupid gun control package that included things like incentivizing the implementation of red flag and state by state. It also was committed to lowering the age for increasing the age for purchase. They wanted to implement waiting periods. There's a lot of stuff in here closed. last night totally closed so it is it's pretty wild uh just and he scrubbed it from the white house website scrubbed it from the website not even there anymore and that's uh the screenshot if you are uh you know you got that newsletter you saw that blue thing that i had that's the screenshot that was it was used to be the website for the gun violence prevention now it's not anymore so that's So conjunction with that, there's two other things to keep an eye on. And one of these, I mentioned this in the post because this White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, etc., the shuttering of this coupled with Representative Michael Cloud out of Texas and Senator Jim Risch. He is a senator out of Idaho. They are, they had co-sponsored, they introduced this bill called the No Registry Act. The No Registry Act was introduced because the ATF, it was discovered in a letter that was a blower letter that was sent to committees of Congress. that the ATF, when they, when you're going through and you're making your purchase, they have like over 900 and some odd, I mean like millions and millions of purchase records that they're not supposed to keep because there's a federal law stipulating that you cannot keep any kind of information. You cannot keep a gun registry. You can't keep anything like that. You can't implement that federally. And so the ATF, however, in a way to get around that, they have been tracking purchase histories. So you have millions of purchase histories, which is a de facto registry. And you would have, you know, you had the Biden administration that had complete access to that. So Congressman Cloud, Senator Risch, they've introduced this No Registry Act. That, now there's more, that spun together with the National Reciprocity Bill, which was introduced by, I know, shockingly, congressman john cornyn who was on the program the other day to talk about it uh and that's just a straight reciprocity bill which honestly i think that's going to pass i actually think that national reciprocity is going to pass and here's why if it doesn't you're going to have a big argument uh about the uh favored rights you have some natural rights that are favored and promoted and some natural rights that are treated like you know they act like it's a They try to syntax it to death. And with this, and it's quite interesting, you have your driver's license that you can, if I have my driver's license in Texas, I can come to Nevada, use my driver's license in Nevada. If you have your concealed carry license, that should also be applicable and serve you in every other state in the union. And it's not right now, as you know, so that I think they're going to fight it. And I definitely believe Illinois will fight it, because, as you know, right now, under the previous administration, You had the ATF colluding with that Office of Gun Violence Prevention, remember? And they were targeting, I mean, they were really targeting a Glock out of Chicago. So that's a case that's, you know, they've been litigating. Illinois will try to fight it, but ultimately I don't think that they're going to be successful. I really don't. So I think this actually will pass. And, you know, I had asked Cornyn the other day whether or not It should be it would be better to have perhaps maybe, you know, just then just do constitutional carry nationally. But they said that this is going to be a little bit easier to actually do. So this you're going to have this interesting you're going to have this super interesting national reciprocity law that I think that's going to pass. So these three things. It's a great way to start off SHOT Show because you have these three things. And that, I think, is incredibly significant. All right, so that's some of the first stuff that happened yesterday, some of the first things that happened yesterday. Now, in addition to all of that, I know it's like a very busy, we've got a very busy news day because we've got all this stuff happening. And if you're watching, by the way, you're like, where's her studio? It's because I'm broadcasting live from Vegas. We're here at SHOT Show. And that's the private industry event. But we're taking you behind the scenes with it. So it's a lot of fun. In the meantime, like we were saying, I wanted to get back to some of this other meat and potato stuff. All of these executive orders, we talked about energy yesterday. There are some people that are trying to blow up. the uh j6 pardons and they're trying to act like oh my gosh this is crazy there was a one police union that's it was the union boss by the way that spoke out against it and they were saying that oh my you can't have j6 pardons as we talked about yesterday when you have a guy who there was a guy who murdered somebody else there was a blm rally burn loop murder rally there was a a guy who set a building on fire burned a dude inside knew the guy was inside the building set it on fire he later was arrested He obviously caused the man's death, and he committed arson. And yet that guy got way less of a penalty than somebody who had walked into the Capitol, filed through the little velvet ropes in Statuary Hall, and took a couple selfies. I'm not even kidding you. That's the two-tier system of justice. That's why every single one of those convictions needed to be thrown out. And if Democrats didn't want that to happen, they shouldn't have acted like jackasses and gotten over their skis and decided to prosecute everyone and try to elevate like something like unlawful parading to a felony level. It's crazy. Now, this plus deportations. So we started hearing yesterday. that the Coast Guard has announced that they're going to immediately surge boats, Cutters aircraft, specialized forces to the southeast border around Florida. They're trying to prevent what they said was mass illegal immigration from Haiti and Cuba. This coming from Bill Malujan yesterday evening. He said now, additionally, the maritime border around Alaska and Hawaii and the you know, Guam and the Marianas and all that, Puerto Rico, they are affirming the maritime border. They're watching all of these maritime borders. And they said in a statement that they're working with DHS and DOD, and they're going to deter and interdict illegal immigration, drug smuggling, etc. This is fast. This is fast. If you saw on the newsletter, too, he's already mobilizing the military to go to the southern border. That was the headline that we had as well, the president. So they've been super busy. He was working late into the night last night. He called the lid. I think he called the lid at like 7 or 8 o'clock Eastern. And they had a photo of him working in the Oval Office late last night, and it was indicated by the Marine that was at the door. So they have that guy that's stationed at the door whenever – Whenever the president's in there working. So this is huge. So all of this is happening. You and we're going to get some of the reaction to that from the left coming up. Mexico's president called for a cool head. as Trump sent the peso tumbling. And that was over tariffs. She's also mad at him over some of the deportation stuff. But that's too bad. Trump also responded yesterday. Actually, this was late yesterday evening to that inaugural prayer service that was at that church, St. John's. The one that the rioters tried to burn down a few years ago. He blasted, blasted that, I don't know what you want to call her, some kind of clown priestess in a statement. saying that basically saying that it was inappropriate and that, you know, woke woke doesn't work anymore. We're going to get into all of that and more. So we have a lot to get into later on in the program. Donald Trump Jr., as I said, is expected to join. We also we've got a lot of guests lined up for you while we're here. And we're in this really cool like fishbowl. here at Caltech's booth broadcasting from Shacha. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So I got photos from family members who live on the beach near like near Pensacola, Florida, and they had snow on the beach. First ever blizzard warning issued along the Gulf Coast as deadly winter storm slams Texas, slams Florida. It's in Georgia. It's everywhere. And Louisiana, even in New Orleans, there's snow on the ground in New Orleans, blanketing New Orleans. People were out. I mean, there's some great photos. Baton Rouge. Lafayette everywhere. So they got a couple inches of snow, actually, is how it was reported. So that's incredibly unusual, obviously. Winter storm, at least it's leaving Texas. In Japan, they had an aquarium. This was an aquarium in Tokyo. And they had a sunfish. And they closed the aquarium per ABC just recently. so that they could do some renovations. The sunfish got sad, and so this Tokyo Aquarium pasted cutouts of photos with human faces onto the tank so that the sunfish wasn't sad anymore. That was very nice of them to do. Trump granted a full pardon to Ross Ulbrich, creator of the website Dark Web Silk Road, and he said, I mean, did this just literally yesterday. 40-year-old Ulbrich was arrested back in 2013 because the website that he founded, he was being accused of facilitating the sale of illicit drugs using crypto. So in 2015, he was sentenced to two life terms plus 40 years for trafficking. He was... pardoned yesterday by POTUS. A lot of people are saying that Musk had something to do with that as well. But Alaska is to resume barbaric. They called it barbaric. This is how the this is the Guardian. Guardian's a British. I wouldn't wipe my backside with the Guardian. Guardians trash. This is the headline that they got. Alaska's to resume the barbaric shooting of bears and wolves from helicopters. What they don't say is that it's a program that's designed to keep these apex predators balanced with the rest of the ecosystem. Every bear gets tagged. It's not like you could just take your gun and roll up to, you know, Alaska and start rooting, tooting, shooting. You know, it's not like Yosemite's. You can't do that. But they do need help. and making sure that that ecosystem stays balanced. What about all the sweet little bears in that cane that the bear and wolves would eat? And the wolf population, you do have to control that as well. I mean, these people have no idea. The people who bitch and moan about it have no idea about conservation. They have no idea about land management. They just need to be quiet. I'm just done dealing with it. Done dealing with it. Also, here's what I was telling you about a little bit earlier. At the border, POTUS is sending out the military. It was entertaining the idea. He's also been talking to governors about using their National Guards and having... having some help at the border with that. Interesting. Also, let's see. Oh, here's how the press, by the way, we'll dive into this more a little bit. Here's how the press is reporting on Trump with that bishop, the priestess. They're saying that he's demanding an apology from the bishop who hurt his feelings. And they said that his attack, all he said kindly was that he disagrees with her and that she was woke. And they called it a savage attack. These people have no gradient for what's acceptable and what isn't. We have a lot more on the way. We've got the latest, the immigration orders. All these executive orders are kicking in and cabinet. Confirmations. Pete Hegseth, stick with us. On January 24th, as the nation comes together for the March for Life, Preborn proudly stands in solidarity with the movement, reaffirming their dedication with the sanctity of Life Month and the protection of every unborn child. And more great news, the abortion pill reversal treatment is giving women a second chance to choose life, bringing babies back to life and empowering women. Join Preborn Ministries in supporting women in their darkest hours. With God's love and free services, Preborn's network of clinics are ready to help women choose life. And help start the new year right by supporting life just for $28. Just $28. You can provide one ultrasound with a gift of $140. You can help rescue five babies. And your donation can make a real difference. And if you're able, consider a leadership gift to save babies. A $5,000 donation sponsors Preborn's network for 24 hours. Rescuing 200 babies. Donate securely at preborn.com. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250 baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Donate today for the sanctity of life at preborn.com slash Dana.
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And we had 1,500. We have 16 under review, as you know. We commuted about 16 of them because it looks like they could have done things that were not acceptable for a full pardon. But these people have served years of jail. Their lives have been ruined. And in many cases, listen to me for a second. Stop interrupting. They served years in jail. And if you look at the American public, the American public is tired of it. Take a look at the election. We're going to take care of us.
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I love that. I love that. So that was POTUS yesterday. He was already like not having it with these reporters because they were trying to railroad him while they were asking him a question about pardons and the J6 stuff. And look, I'm going to tell you, the media lost any high ground in talking about this. The moment they looked the other way after you had the whole... The whole fam damley that got pardoned with the Bidens. Not only that, but all the BLM stuff. You had people, like I said, that got sentences that were exponentially more lenient than what you had with people who got charged with things like unlawful parading. Whatever the hell that is. I don't even know what that is. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. And we are broadcasting live from SHOT Show. And it's in Las Vegas. We do this every year. It's a private industry event. It's a great event. And we're broadcasting from Keltex booth here. We're giving away a gun actually on Friday. We're actually legit. I'm giving away a gun and it's a gun that you can actually say clip on. I'll explain more. So the remember the letter yesterday. So when POTUS was in the White House and. You know, as per usual, they have a, you know, the outgoing president leaves the new president a letter, right? This is a tradition that is actually it's gone on for forever. It's irrelevant to the to the point. But Biden left Trump one. And it was funny because during the remarks that they had yesterday, Peter Doocy actually had to say, you know, the first time he was in there, he actually had to say, did Biden, did former President Biden leave you a letter? And Trump opened the drawer and it was right there. And he had said, well, do you want me to read it now? Or maybe we should maybe I'll read it and then share it publicly later. And they all thought that that was OK. So the interesting thing is that he now made it public. So I wanted to pull up as we got the letter. They have the letter that he and it's a real short letter that he wrote him. And he and I'm pulling it up right now for you because they just now Peter Doocy reports, quote, this is the letter Biden left to Trump. Dear President Trump, as I take leave of this sacred office, I wish you and your family all of the best in the next four years. He adds in this letter, the American people and people around the world look to this house for steadiness in the inevitable storms of history. And my prayer is that in the coming years, It will be a time of prosperity, peace and grace for our nation. May God bless you and guide you as he has blessed and guided our beloved country since our founding. Joe Biden won 2025. So no way Joe wrote that. Joe did not write that at all. And I know, Cain, I know you're over there turning stuff. Did you read? Did you see the letter that Biden wrote to Trump? I don't think he actually wrote that letter. I don't think he wrote it.
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I did see the moment where Peter Doocy actually reminded the president that the letter was in the desk. That was hysterical. That was so good. Yeah, yeah. But I never did see what was in the letter. If Biden did really write it, I'd probably be illegible.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I don't believe at all whatsoever that he wrote it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right.
SPEAKER 21 :
Not at all. Not at all. So... But somebody on the staff shared some nice sentiments, right? That was nice for them to do. So this... second day now of his second term. And all of these executive orders, we were talking about the shuttering of the Office of Gun Violence Prevention. Well, nobody knows what that did. I read the statement that the Everytown, which is the Michael Bloomberg, I have it here, the Michael Bloomberg entity that they had released. And they were saying that, oh, it's so sad. He closed the Office of Gun Violence Prevention. Not a single one of these people could tell me what that office did. Not a single one of these people could tell me whether or not it lowered crime. Not a single one of these people could tell me whether or not it reduced straw purchases. Not a single one of these people could... They can't even define what... They can't even define half of the stuff that we're discussing. So the idea that this office is a great loss, it didn't do anything. It's a slush pit for taxpayer dollars to go into while they pretended to do something about... It's a crime issue that pertains to gangs and drugs. You had the CDC that came out and actually I think it was the Brady Group that was trying to cite that stupid CDC nonsense by saying, oh, well, you know, this is so sad that Trump shut this, the Office of Gun Violence Prevention. And what this means is that, you know, They're saying the firearms are the biggest killers of children. And they say that as a way to try to shame you into thinking that if you don't give up your arms, then you like dead kids. And that's nonsense. But the interesting part is that they wouldn't have that statistic had the CDC not omitted and not allowed the gun control groups which we have receipts of in 2022 and 2023 they were pressuring the CDC to say you need to remove defensive gun use from your website because it doesn't look so great for our narrative and so they pressured the CDC also to include up till the age of 20 young adults and call them children like their children those are kids well that's nonsense but that's that's that's what the CDC ended up doing They allowed them to do that. They allowed them to put those numbers together. When you take out that demo, the 18 to 20-year-old demo, which, by the way, is the biggest driver of drugs and guns, when you remove that, automobile accidents and drownings actually take the first and second spot respectively. as it pertains to the loss of life with young adults. And so they have to put that in there to fearmonger. They've got to put that stat in there to try to shame you into, oh, I don't want to be associated with that. It's just a psyop. That's all it is. But shuttering this office doesn't do anything. Doesn't do anything. The other thing, the Lake and Riley Act, as you know, passed with 12 Democrats in the Senate. 12 Democrats in the Senate voted for this. That's pretty huge. That is incredibly significant. The final Senate tally was 64 to 35. The House is going to take up the measure later this week. It'll likely be later today or tomorrow. It's expected to fly through all of that. It's stunning because I think some of these Democrats, this is why it's so important to hit the ground running, all pedal, no brake, or all gas, no brake, because they've got to get all of this stuff in before these same lawmakers go, oh, you know what? It's midterm cycle. So I'm I'm going to kind of just slow my roll on passing some of this limited government policy. I'm going to slow my roll on things like this because they want to make sure that they're appealing to the Marxists, honestly, that are in their state. But that's that's significant. Or or if you want to be a very if you want to be an optimist, maybe they're starting to kind of see the light on some of this stuff. And as a result. at least on these most obviously common sense practical issues, they'll start coming a little bit more in the middle. We'll see. I don't know. The reverend, as I told you, this reverend, I'm going to say some things that are not popular. This demonic clown priestess who did that, what's her name? Booty? How do you pronounce her name? Bud? B-U-D-D-E? It sounds like she's named after a Space Dandy episode.
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Is it Buddy or Booty? It sounds like it would probably be Booty.
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Probably. Can I call her whatever I want? Sure. All right, good. So Lady Elaine Fairchild, she was on with CNN. And do we have this soundbite? This is an old, she went to CNN immediately. Can I just play, I'm going to drop this. This is a flashback that's in, this is from 2020 because this, whatever she is, I don't believe in female reverence. I think that's, you know why I don't believe in the term assault weapon? Because it's a fake thing. Just like I don't believe in female reverence. That's fake. It's all fake nonsense. Nobody believes in that. So this audio we're going to play is back from 2020 when she went on CNN. She went on CNN actually last night too. But she was on scene in 2020. She has nursed a raging hatred for Trump for years. I want you to listen to what she says right here to Anderson Cooper. Just give me a thumbs up when you got that, Kane. Oh, shoot. Yeah. When she says she in this clip, she gets angry and she says the president just uses a Bible and one of the churches of my diocese. This is after he was inaugurated the first or no, this is 2020. And he was walking to the church. Remember, they set the church on fire. She said the president just used a Bible and one of the churches of my diocese without permission is a backdrop. for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything our churches stand for. That's what she said. So she was angry. And this was, again, back in 2020. This was after they had the riots there and they burned down a church and then police had to come out and use tear gas, rubber bullets, all this stuff. You guys remember all of that, right? That's when, I mean, they legit set fire to a church. And then you had this fake female bishop gets out there and all her, like, you know, her finery. And she says this, listen. Permission.
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As a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and one of the churches of my diocese, without permission, as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything that our churches stand for. Okay. And to do so, as you just said, he sanctioned the use of tear gas.
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So she's criticizing POTUS, who is upset, obviously, because they try to burn down a church. And so she says that everything that he's doing is like antithetical. Again, first off, her existing as a female reverend is antithetical. She this is one of the she's exactly the type of woman that Paul was telling to talk less in church. And you can obviously see the reason why that's antithetical to the teachings of Jesus. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the Bible. uh the the the thing she's advocating for right that essentially if you are not a marxist then you're like a racist bigot whatever that's antithetical to the teaching of jesus you're bearing false witness you know you're casting dispersions on the character of your neighbor you're impugning the character of your neighbor uh you're advocating for uh you know murder if you want to have that discussion about abortion uh all the things that she stands for all of her advocacy is antithetical to the teachings of jesus she acts like she's the bouncer to the jesus club This lady acts like you're trying to get into Club Jesus. She's the bouncer. And if you're not Marxist enough, if you don't use, you know, whatever made up pronouns, then you're not going to be allowed in. So she's hitting back at him with all of this. And I think that this is going to go on between them for a little while. But here's why I find this so fascinating, because it is, I feel like this is the last gasp of, them trying to hit him with wokery is this reference. It was rude what she did. It was rude what she did. You know, she's standing there, you know, in front of the nation. And who set that up? Who actually made that happen? What staffer allowed for that lady to be? I know that they wanted to do it at St. John's, but you're the president of the United States. If you were to bring in like an actual reverend and not some chick who's cosplaying as one, then by all means. So, I mean, I don't know. I'm telling you. I find it all, the whole thing, the whole thing, I think they're going to try to drag it out because they need some kind of agitation. They need something. some kind of they need to stick to that issue somehow because what else do they have honestly what are they going to talk about they got midterms coming up what are they going to talk about how their lawmakers responded so successfully in california are they going to talk about how their lawmakers responded so successfully in north carolina they have nothing to talk about absolutely nothing they have no policy to sell no issue to promote it's just doom and gloom and complete misery now moving on from that so that's going to happen for a little bit little bit longer did you guys see uh... al sharpton that time to talk about this adreni to skedaddle so al sharpton real quick as kane says that i just keep going so al sharpton he says that companies that are that are jettison de i programs that they're trying to send black people to the back of the bus and he's threatening a boycott you know that scene Uh, this was in, uh, the two towers and it was the king of Rohan. Remember this? So the king of Rohan, he was sitting there and he had Wormtongue. So that was King Theoden. So Theoden, who was very good friends with, obviously, Gandalf, Rohan, kind of like the accompanying kingdom to Gondor. You had Wormtongue, who was, you know, he's a stooge of Saruman. He's a stooge and he's been brainwashing and poisoning and basically keeping Theoden in this horrible state. And Gandalf comes. And he's saying, telling, you know, you need to leave. You need to leave King Theoden. You need to leave Rohan. And that's when Saruman, who's puppeting Theoden, laughs and says, you have no power here. That's a long buildup, but it's worth it. Because that's exactly what I felt like when I saw Al Sharpton saying that he's going to start boycotting companies that ax these DEI programs. I immediately thought of crusty old King Theoden sitting there on the throne of Rohan laughing and saying, you have no power here. So... We've got a lot more on the way. 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So I'm trying to figure out why John Kerry's talking. Me too. He hasn't been relevant or consequential in quite a long time, I think. That was, well, I don't even know what you'd call him anymore. Did he have a position? But it wasn't a position that he had to be confirmed. So it was some kind of like throwaway.
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Like climate envoy or something?
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Yeah, like he gets to go talk to the clouds about the weather. I don't know. It was something to that effect. Just completely irrelevant. Completely irrelevant position. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. We are at the towards the end of this first hour. Now, coming up next hour, Donald Trump Jr. is scheduled to join us. He's coming in from D.C. He's always at SHOT Show every year. He goes to he's actually a legitimate hunter. He's not a politician who goes out there and here's a picture of me holding someone else's shotgun, sitting on the back of someone else's pickup truck. And look, I got hail in my tape. He doesn't he doesn't cosplay. He doesn't cosplay. So he's here. He'll be on the program a little bit later. Also, that back and forth between that priestess and Trump, we got all the latest because the executive orders now are coming in. Some are being implemented now. Some of the implementation is going to take a little bit of time. Some are going to require an act of Congress. It's going to have to go through that legislative framework, as it should. Also, the left's still going after Elon Musk, saying that he's a Nazi. That's, you know, the village people basically did two of those salutes on the stage and they had their hands up like that. Wow. Whoa. Wow. I got there's all kinds of images of every Democrat doing it. It's just the dumbest argument. Like, just stop already. So we got all that. We got a more in-store broadcasting live from the Kel-Tec booth at SHOT Show. Stick with us. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top-rated precious metals company GoldCo to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. GoldCo has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com.
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and we'll take a few questions if you want.
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You would agree that it's never acceptable to assault a police officer, right? Sure. So then if I can, among those you pardoned, DJ Rodriguez, he drove a stun gun into the neck of a D.C. police officer who was abducted by the mob that day. He later confessed on video to the FBI and pleaded guilty for his crimes. Why does he deserve a pardon?
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Well, I don't know. Is it a pardon because we're looking at commutes and we're looking at pardons? Okay, well, we'll take a look at everything, but I can say this. Murderers today are not even charged. You have murderers that aren't charged all over. You take a look at what's going on in Philadelphia. You take a look at what's going on in L.A. where people murder people and they don't get charged.
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So that's... There was a reporter that was asking a question about the pardons of some of those J6 folks. And it's... I don't really, the question is so dumb because the context omits the two-tier, the acknowledgement of the two-tier system of justice as it pertains to the way that they went and litigated the BLM. I mean, we've talked about this before. I'm so tired of making this argument to these same damn brain-dead people, right? Like, either you recognize there's a two-tier system of justice or not. If you don't think there's a two-tier system of justice, I double-dog dare you to put me in elected office somewhere. If you don't think that there is, I double dog dare you because I will make your life a living hell. If I was a member of the government, I would go after my enemies. They would cry and gnash their teeth before me. Their women would lament. It would be horrible to just kind of riff off Conan the Barbarian there a little bit. So welcome. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of the second hour. And it's... We're at SHOT Show, broadcasting from SHOT Show. This is our first full day at SHOT Show. We're in Vegas. That's the National Shooting Sports Foundation, their organization. And it's like a lobbying organization for all the firearms manufacturers in the world. So it's an industry-only event, meaning it's not like some of these other conventions that are out there that are open to the public. It takes a little bit to get in. But it's all of the latest stuff, the new things coming out this year, the latest tech, everything. So it's a lot of fun. It's weird because it's like a weird mixture of... The gun community and then politicians and then Hollywood even because you have like, for instance, prop masters that come out and maybe they're looking for a weapon to go in a film, you know, and you have weapons trainers like our friend Taryn Butler is going to be on later this week. who did all the John Wick movies and Lioness and Mary Kingstown and all of that. Those people come. I mean, it's a weird, interesting mix. So we're here. Coming up at the bottom of this hour, we are expecting Donald Trump Jr. He's going to be joining us. A lot of stuff to discuss. He's going to be joining us because people were asking him if he's open to run for office. I'm not saying that I'm going to ask him that, but I'm totally going to ask him that just so you guys know. But in the meantime, we've got all of this latest with the executive orders and, you know, all of this stuff that's getting implemented. Then you have the president says he's going to visit audio somebody for he is going to be visiting North Carolina. Then after North Carolina, seeing the remaining devastation wrought by the hurricane, he's going to be going to L.A. Listen.
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We're going to take care of Los Angeles. I'm going there. I'm going to North Carolina, which has been abandoned by the Democrats. And I'm going to North Carolina, very importantly, first. I'll be there on Friday. And then I'm going from there to Los Angeles. And then I'm going to Nevada.
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Going to Nevada. Huh. Well, wait a minute, Cain. He's going to North Carolina, then he's going to Los Angeles, then he's going to Nevada. Why could he be going to Nevada, I wonder? What's happening here in Nevada that everybody's at, that his son's going to be here later today? I'm just wondering, you know, like what, you know, just saying, we're just asking for a few friends. So he's going to go. He's already going to be making it quicker there probably than Biden. I don't think Biden's, was he in North Carolina or did he send Harris? What was the hurricane that he sent Poop Booty Juice? And Poop Booty Juice stood around in his Bob the Builder hat. Remember?
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Wasn't that Helene? That wasn't Helene?
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I don't know. I just remember him in a hat that was like shockingly too big for his giant large head.
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We had a couple of quick hurricanes there this past year.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So really, I don't know. I just realized Kane. How are we going to make fun of him? Because he's no longer transport sec.
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That's true. I think there's still plenty of material to work with, honestly.
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He's going to go back, and maybe he can get his position as the rear vice admiral of the canoe fleet at Camp Wimpy Tonka.
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Of all the admirals, the rear admiral.
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The vice rear admiral.
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Vice rear admiral.
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Super important position.
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And it seems appropriate. Seems right for him. Rarely. Huh? Seems right for him.
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Yeah. And the canoe fleet, they've got a lot of waterways. Although he's not in Indiana now, he's in Michigan. Because I think he thinks he's going to try to take on Amy Klobuchar. And what he doesn't know is that she's going to stab him like a mad prisoner using a fork as a shank. She's not even going to... She ain't even playing. All right. So... i'm i will say that's my only sad thing because i don't have anybody now right now to make fun of in government i mean i guess you know i got my regular democrat lawmakers but it was really fun looking at the ridiculous picks that biden had for some of these agencies which really didn't need to exist if i'm being honest so just saying all right so we've been we've been hitting a lot of stuff uh with Gosh, there's so it's like drinking from a fire hose with everything that has been coming in. This is something I'm going to pull this up to bear with me because we're looking at a lot of stuff. So we have Democrats that are freaking out right now. As it pertains to the deportations and Tom Homan saying that that's all going to be implemented immediately and also over the birthright citizenship because they're having now the debates are starting. I've already told you if you get the prep, you got that already how they have. They're preparing to file suit on the birthright citizenship, which again comes down to that clause subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That's incredibly important. I ultimately think that the administration will prevail on this. I think they will prevail on that. I don't think that that's going to be an issue that keeps them in the courts for forever. But still, the fact that they're going to have to do it just to the fact that you have to have a legal fight and you have to spend thousands of dollars and work with all of these attorneys and go and defend something that should be completely obvious. Well, the president also took down the Spanish version of the White House website, Kane.
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Yeah, it's a shame.
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I guess that means, wait, according to the left, doesn't that mean I have to take a drink of my swill coffee? I hate this coffee. This coffee's trash.
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What I like most about that is when you went to that page and it's like this page no longer exists and then it has a button that you click to go home, it actually says the words, go home. And it's almost like he's talking to the illegals. That was on purpose. Go home. I mean, I've been enjoying these past few days.
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I've got to tell you something. There's several qualities that I admire in people. One of them is pettiness. And there are some really petty moves that I really am enjoying right now. Not petty. You know what? That's the wrong word. Can I take it back? That's the wrong word. Not petty. Justifiably indignant? I don't know. But I love it. That was funny. So they took that down. Everyone's mad. And then now you have federal workers suing Trump over the Schedule F order. They're suing over that. So there's going to be lawsuits like nobody's business over all of these executive orders. I want to play some audio for you as well. that we're going to get into and pull this up we're having some we're having some internet issues right now meaning that it doesn't exist this is a way it is you know we need Starlink over here can I play this audio sound bite nine because they're still rolling with not having they're still rolling with that Musk is Hitler thing listen to this this is the United States of America and
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I don't care what Elon Musk is doing behind a presidential seal in this country. We hate Nazis. Kind of like a foundational defining thing to probably the most foundational defining things about American history is that we beat the Confederates and we beat the Nazis.
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Well, they beat socialists and she's a socialist. You know the left? I actually had an argument one time. I can't remember where this was. Oh, I think it was in the green room of real time when I was on real time. And it was somebody from Daily Kos who was arguing with me about how you can't say that they're just socialists. I'm like, do you realize that's what Nazi means? It's national socialist. You... barely literate consequence of cousin coupling. How in the world do you not understand basic history? I'm so tired of it. Not everyone is Hitler. But you know what? They're all like, Elon Musk is Hitler because he threw his heart and he had his arm out for a second. Where was AOC when they were beating Jewish students on college campuses? I thought she hated Hitler. Where was AOC when they were beating down Jewish students on campus or when they were going after, when the guy who was going to synagogue got shot and killed in New York? Where was AOC? That was in her city. Where was AOC then? Decrying something, something Hitler. Where was she at over that? Does anybody know? No, nobody has any clue. Nobody has any idea at all whatsoever. So typical. That's so I really just don't take where she had about the hostages, American hostages still being held by Hamas or Iran through Hamas attacking a longtime ally in the Middle East. Where was she at? Silent over that. But Elon Musk, he makes a move where he takes his still beating heart and pretends to throw it to the audience to demonstrate his love and appreciation of them. And because he outstretches his arm to pretend throw his imaginary still beating heart, she says it's Hitler. But again, still silent when Jewish people were beaten in the streets. Just want to make sure I got that right, right? Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. She's, you know what? I tend to think that she ran for office because she was a bad bartender. I mean.
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Can you be bad at bartending?
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Oh, yeah. You can be bad. She just doesn't. I don't think she's got it.
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hand people already bottled drinks and barely having to mix anything?
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Or what if she tries to make a cocktail? Oh, I'm sorry, they call that mixology. I feel like I'm in that movie, what was it, White Christmas with Danny Kaye, and he's making fun of dancing and saying, no, it's choreography now. I feel like it's mixology now. It's just not making a cocktail. It's mixology.
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I have known some really good bartenders, by the way. So this is no insult, but this is an insult to AOC because clearly she couldn't hang it as a bartender.
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Would you want to talk to that if you're ordering a drink? I would have been grabbing... I mean, if I had a... I'm just saying, if I had a bartender who was that annoying, I'd be grabbing her hair and she'd be kissing the bar, I think. You know? I mean... Come on.
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Let's not do that.
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Not do what?
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Let's not do the violence.
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I didn't say that. She would have fallen on the bar and me being magnanimous and genuine and very helpful.
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That sounds like it's Gravity's fault.
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I would be helping pick her up off of it.
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That would be Gravity's fault at that point. That's right. You know?
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I mean... Come on.
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I'm with you there. Oh.
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I mean, come on, Cain, thank you. It's really disappointing. This, Elise Stefanik, audio soundbite 11. She goes after Chris Murphy. Did you see Chris Murphy? No, you guys, you know why you guys didn't see Chris Murphy on X? Because you guys have lives. That's why. Because you have lives. Play this audio, because this is Stefanik just ripping his endocrine system out through his nose.
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What do you think of... Elon Musk, perhaps the president's most visible advisor, doing two Heil Hitler salutes last night at the president's televised rally.
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No, Elon Musk did not do those salutes. I was not at the rally, but I can tell you I've been at many rallies with Elon Musk, who loves to cheer when President Trump says we need to send our U.S. space program to Mars. Elon Musk is a visionary. I'm looking forward to his work in Doge. the Department of Government efficiency and look forward to looking how we can be more efficient and effective. No, get him, Stefano, get him. But that is simply not the case. And to say so is the American people are smart. They see through it. They support Elon Musk. We are proud to be the country of such successful entrepreneurs. That is one of our greatest strengths as Americans.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And this is my first time in person to be able to say congratulations on the biggest historical comeback. I actually think that he did more than, like, Churchill's comeback.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I will say sort of the most resilient man in the history of politics. Because when you think about the... amount of times he was counted out not just you know in 15 when he had zero chance or whatever it was but like just throughout the the attacks the persecutions the lawfare the bullshit it just it just never stopped and so uh he just keeps coming back and you know what honestly then i think the last four years were actually required to do it right yeah Right. Had you just rolled over the 2020 crew like you had the same can kickers, we're just going to wait it out. We're just going to wait it out. But now we know we know the people who are good. We know the people who are loyal and those concentric circles do not overlap very much. And so, you know, you just see the team that's getting put into place like we can we can effectuate real change. And I think you've seen in the first two days, just the stuff that they're rolling out.
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm not even doing what he's doing. And I'm like exhausted, like reading. I was going through all the executive orders. And he sat there and what cracked me up, what your dad did, is like it started, as you know, I'm over there. He starts at the event, like after he made his speech.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
Then they just bring out the desk. He's signing these executive orders. And I was like, he's actually doing this right now. That is amazing. And then he's talking after every single one of them. Oh, yeah, this one's. And normally I would not want to sit through that much policy, but I love the quips that he was given about each of them.
SPEAKER 12 :
We're there and it's a stadium. There's like 20,000 people just full to the rafters. And they're just cheering each executive order, just getting rid of the tyranny that's been around us. So, no, it's been amazing. It's been amazing. It wasn't just the four years that helped educate us how to do things better this time around. In 16, we had no way of knowing, right? You think people are going to be loyal on your side. You think because they have an R next to their name, they're going to be good. That is a gross misconception. But more importantly, I think the American people had to suffer through the last four years and maybe even the world just to understand how important it is to actually have strength and leadership. from the Oval Office.
SPEAKER 21 :
Does he have a Diet Coke button? Is that real?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think the Diet Coke button's real. It's right next to the nuclear button.
SPEAKER 21 :
You don't even know? You're the firstborn son.
SPEAKER 12 :
I keep seeing it. I'm like, I don't know if that's really a Diet Coke button or the call, but we're going to go with it. We're going to go with it.
SPEAKER 21 :
That was literally the first thing I was going to ask you. I know there's other important stuff, but I'm like, I've seen so much.
SPEAKER 12 :
You just don't want to mix it up with the other big red button on the desk, because you make a mistake there, and that could be problematic.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, it could be bad. Like you ended up bombing North Korea and you just wanted to die cold, right? Yeah, I get it. We're talking with Donald Trump Jr. And, you know, this, I'm so glad, you know, six, I guess it was six months ago. That was, I've never been actually legitimately scared like that about my country. And I have to say, you were very kind because we were coming in through NASA. We were out in the islands and Exumas out there fishing, doing all that stuff. I land and my phone is exploding. Yeah. and you're texting everybody's texting me and i look and there was no news yet yeah and you know i never like bombard you with messages or anything like that but i'm like oh my gosh i'm in nasa i'm out of the country i don't want to be out of the country when you know the leader the next leader of the free world is in you we don't know anything about it it was scary i was halfway to you i i got the rare call from my daughter that day to be like i want to go fishing i'm like
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, that doesn't happen. No, you're going for that. A 17-year-old doesn't call you to hang out often. You're just going. I was like, I'll be ready in an hour. Like, let me go get bathing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're out there having a great day. And then my phone starts blowing up. And I'm like, you know, I'm an hour from home. And I'm, you know, 20 miles offshore. And I'm like, uh... I'm trying to tell my 17-year-old daughter, like, hey, your grandfather's been shot. And by the way, I didn't know anything. So I just got a call, but I tried calling out, and there was no comms. They shut down all comms. So I was like, I didn't know for an hour and a half. I made the, well, I guess I can't say land speed record, but the water speed record back into Jupiter where we live. The whole family got to my house by that time. It was 90 minutes before we knew anything. And so, you know, that was sort of, my daughter was the one that spoke at the RNC. That's Kai.
SPEAKER 21 :
She's amazing. Well done, Dad.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, she's never been political. She's 17. She's a 17 year old girl. Right. But it was the next morning. Well, and it's also her golf buddy because she's the golfer. So she's I mean, she plays with them, you know, two days a week. And so she called me that next morning was like, I'm speaking at the RNC. I'm basically sick of this crap. Good for her. I'm like, your first speech is going to be in front of 40,000 people and tens of millions on TV.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, she's going big, Dad.
SPEAKER 12 :
She's got some Trump gene. Yeah. And I called my dad. I was like, listen, this is the play. He goes, whoa, that's a big one. And he just literally was like, he thought about it for a second. He was just like, you know what? That kid's a winner. Let her do it. And she crushed it. And I think... You know, I knew she hit home when, like, the next morning, the ladies of The View are crapping on a 17-year-old girl. You know what I mean? And trying to, like, I'm like, that's a win.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, that's hard for you as a dad to see.
SPEAKER 12 :
It is, but, like, dude, I'm so not... I'm blessed with the ability to not give a crap. I could care less what anyone thinks about me. You've probably seen that over a while. I have that, but it's harder for a 17-year-old girl. But I think she saw it then, and it was just great.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, she's kind of seen you be attacked. She's seen her grandfather be attacked.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so she was the only one able to humanize him. For years. By the way, he's got that. He understands it. I will say his biggest political liability is he actually has a lot of empathy. But he looks at it from this sort of old school mentality of like, I can't negotiate against Putin or Xi or any of the other dictators if they think I'm nice and soft. And so... She hit home because she was the one person to humanize them in the entire RNC. And, you know, but I think honestly, just the American people saw it, you know, that July 13th, like you get shot in the face. Everyone's a tough guy these days on the Internet, right? Yeah, everybody. We've seen plenty of that. Like we all deal with the bullshit. But to come back defiant in the face of that, it's like, you know what? Maybe you are a badass. Or there's something a higher power looking to do right by America, because I don't care if you have a lot of faith or none whatsoever. Whatever level of faith you had, it moved towards a lot of faith. That was divine. That had to be.
SPEAKER 20 :
That was divine.
SPEAKER 12 :
As a shooter, it was funny. I was explaining it to him in the days afterwards. He's like, well, no, it's 150 yards. That's pretty far. He's a golfer. So 150 yards to put it in a hole. Golf math versus gun math. Yeah, that's hard. I love those. As a guy that was a ranked competitive shooter, I'm like, yeah. If I missed that shot, I'd shoot myself. So just explaining, no, no, no, you don't understand. There's divine providence involved in all of this. It's insane.
SPEAKER 21 :
We're talking with Donald Trump Jr. for those listening and not watching the simulcast, which you should be. I thought immediately, and I was going to tweet it, but I didn't. But I should have, because I said he gets shot, and then like a month later, two months later, he calls for national reciprocity.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, well, listen.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's hardcore. I love it. God bless him for that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Listen, I guess I've probably been, let's call it a not-so-subtle voice in his ear in all of these things, because I understand. This is my world.
SPEAKER 21 :
Can I just interrupt for a bit? For the people who don't know, you're not a gun bunny. You're like a legitimate... Although that would go viral if you get me in a bikini with a gun.
SPEAKER 12 :
Finger on the trigger, just breaking all the rules, but it's like, I'm kind of hot. My ab, or as many call it, a keg. There's no six-pack. It's, you know, get the full dad bod going. I could make a lot of money as a gun bunny, but not in the conventional sense.
SPEAKER 21 :
you actually hunt, you do your own reloads, you do like, I mean, you are really.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I actually know what I'm talking about. Yeah, you know what you're talking about. When people are like, how many guns do you have?
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm like, well, just lower your voice. I remember POTUS saying, well, he's got a lot. Don's got a lot of guns.
SPEAKER 12 :
I got in trouble one time when they're, you know, they do one of these things, like someone's busted and they, you know, they've got 500 rounds in his car and three guns. I'm like. That's nothing. I'm like, what are you talking about? I don't even understand. I've been doing this for a long time. I've been in that world. I was a competitive shooter for a long time. I have an outdoor company.
SPEAKER 21 :
We're going to talk about that.
SPEAKER 12 :
The Field Ethos, which is the hunting adventure lifestyle brand, and then In my business life, I've been taking like these sort of, let's call it like, you know, right-wing economy stuff, you know, public. Which is super important. Public square, public. They then brought Credova, which is sort of, you know, the buy now, pay later option. Because, hey, so many of our people, they've been getting, you know, debanked. You can't get insurance. You can't do this.
SPEAKER 21 :
So we're literally... It's like a syntax to the nth degree.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct. And now we're taking grab-a-gun public.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's amazing. So tell people who don't know what it is. Tell them what grab a gun is.
SPEAKER 12 :
Grab a gun, you know, online gun dealer, you know, incredible tech stack. Right. So we're trying to get people who wouldn't buy guns the way they're conventionally buying it as women. And honestly, as leftists, as people like, you know what, we actually need to be able to defend ourselves. I mean, I'm watching this sort of great opening. for people who aren't otherwise gun people to be like okay i still need this you know and then just trying to make that accessible for the average person but more importantly as we watch people get debanked like we're putting our money where our mouth is like you know if people want to buy you know a gun company stock now you can do that so we're taking that you know that's huge because that's what's happening with so many of these gun companies as you know Oh, yeah, well, and you see it. You're getting debanked, and so as we're doing that and vertically integrating all these systems, so, again, you know, Public Square, which you can, you know, under PSQH, you know, on the NASDAQ, we're going to take... grab a gun public in New York Stock Exchange, and then integrating these technologies, it's great. So like people can actually, retail guys, right now you can buy it under CLBR as the ticker because what you have is sort of doing it under SPAC. So you have a shell company that will merge with actually grab a gun. It'll automatically become PEW. That is, I would say it's serendipitous, but that sounds on purpose. I like it. Eventually, but like for those of us who have been, bitching about all these things. And we have a lot of people that complain, not a lot of people that actually do anything about it. So me and some friends, as we've watched this attack and we have sort of the sophistication to do that, we say, hey, we're going to actually not just help support these companies publicly, but we're actually gonna take them public. We're going to be dealing with the biggest bankers in the world. We're going to make this, which should be, I mean, it's the Second Amendment. I mean, we're going to make it mainstream. We're also going to allow these guys to have a great tech stack so that we can get to those people and show other people how they can buy this. But for the retail guys, again, you can buy it now under CLBR. We want to have Americans have a chance. Buy two shares, buy five shares, buy 100 shares. You can do all of that now and you can actually put your money in the stuff that you believe in because there's been a gross attack. For so long so really excited to do this with with grab a gun and it's just the beginning We're gonna make this you know you you know it as well as anyone how many of your advertisers? How many of the institutional guys how many of the banks that you even you know? I've been debanked. I've been canceled I've been this I was like you know what I got enough guys with I'll just say it with balls now to be like, now we're out there in the mainstream. I don't want to get us all into trouble.
SPEAKER 21 :
You had BS. You're fine with that.
SPEAKER 12 :
But, you know, there has been a real attack on so many of the things that we actually believe in. So we're fighting back, not just... You're like, hey, I'll post a picture with a gun, but like, no, no, we're actually taking companies public. Boom, exactly. These are going to be publicly traded. We're going to make it okay. And since those companies and so many of the institutions and all of the downstream stuff has been so anti-gun, so anti-freedom, so anti-hunting, We're just gonna go all out all in out there. So like, you know, if people can help support that we open the door for people to be unafraid Yeah My father's done that other guys have done that, you know, Elon sort of did that for the tech bros and now you're seeing it It's like they're coming back and they're like because you've had left us to infiltrate these companies buy up shares and then they start directing company operations and the ideology for the companies and they're happy to take your money Yeah, they use it to fund You know, anti-gun groups and all of that. And it's like this is insane. And it's happening in the outdoor space. Like, you know, I don't even need to name the companies, but we all know no more. We're going to actually have patriots buying these companies.
SPEAKER 21 :
So I so national reciprocity. I also would talk about the Office of Gun Violence Prevention. Michael Cloud out of Texas, congressman out of Texas, introduced a bill called the No Registry Act that. So apparently, even though we're not allowed to have a federal registry, because that's federally prohibited, the ATF has been keeping hundreds of thousands of actually millions of purchase records, which kind of is a backdoor registry. And that's something that I think is, you know, people are aware of, but it's not at the forefront. Cloud is introducing a bill to ban that outright.
SPEAKER 12 :
I love all of that stuff. Listen, I was heavily involved in transition, which is, I think, why we have the team we have. And in 16, again, we wouldn't have known. Now we know. And so people were pretty deferential to me on a lot of these things. Like, hey, what do we do about these problems? Because, again, there's sort of the surface stuff that most people understand. And then there's the nuance underneath it that you have to understand. I mean, I got a lot of help. I mean, even in 16, when they're like... You didn't sign here in protection. I'm like, put it on our desk. Like it doesn't work. The president can't. He can't go.
SPEAKER 21 :
He's going to get attacked.
SPEAKER 12 :
So there's a difference between the soundbite and reality. But now you have an entire team of people that gets it. So there's a lot I think they'll now do with ATF, with all of that. I mean, you know, obviously you're seeing the turnover rate and all that stuff already starting.
SPEAKER 21 :
What's going to happen with ATF? I mean, I know you and I both would love that.
SPEAKER 12 :
I know what I want. I would love for it to go bye-bye. We'll see. But again, for the last few months, I've been very involved in a lot of conversations.
SPEAKER 21 :
Why not you for ATF?
SPEAKER 12 :
Because the reality is, I think I can be loud. I can be a soundboard for all of the good decisions. I set up the right people into those positions, let them govern. But it can't just come from government, which is why it's so important what we're doing. Again, you know, CLBR, we're taking a gun company public.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
No one has the guts to do that. So you actually need sort of the corporate side. You need the free market side to do it well. If the government does it, but you still have the shadow banks, you still have the banks doing what they're doing, you still have the credit guys doing what they're doing. So again, between Public Square, Cordova, Grab-a-Gun, I mean, these are all companies that we're making mainstream. People can actually invest in them. I want to handle the real world side of that. it put into the right team for the government side of that. And those two functioning sort of simultaneously, not together, obviously they're not linked, but like having people that understand that overall mission.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, that's everything. Yeah. Uh, and so, you know, we're in the process of doing that. So it's not just, yeah, again, not just a gun bunny. We're actually putting, you know, money, anyone who would ever actually seriously say that about you. But again, everyone's on the internet, right? Like, you know, the reality is like when they were doing, well, Maga's really afraid of Tim Wallace because he's a hunter and a shooter. I'm like, I don't know, man. I've never seen a wrist so limp. And when I watch a guy not be able to load like a Beretta A400, I'm like... How is that a struggle for you? You hand me three shells and a blindfold and a gun, like I'll do it in like... But that was his favorite gun to go hunting with. No, that was his favorite gun. I'm like, you know what? My favorite gun? I know how to load it. You know, there is a difference. By the way, you don't have to give me, like, you can give me any gun. I'll know how to load it. It's not that hard.
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm going to interject real quick. We got you for a few more minutes because I only have two questions for you. And one of them is going to be of, you know, maybe future politics. He's like, great. What are you signing me up for? We're going to take a quick break. We're back, finishing up. A few more minutes with Donald Trump Jr. here live from SHOT Show, Kel-Tex booth, NSSF. Stick with us. It is a big week and we're not just talking about Inauguration Day. Kel-Tec has officially unveiled their brand new pistol, the PR-57, and it's causing a huge buzz. Over a million views on the release video already, and you need to see why. Visit keltecweapons.com slash Dana today, right now. Check it out. It's the Kel-Tec PR57. It's a revolutionary compact concealed carry pistol chambered in 5.7. It's ultra-lightweight, 20-round capacity. And here's what's the kicker. It's a unique top-loading design. It's slim, simple, and practical. You're not going to have a magazine. In fact, the PR57 loads directly into the grip. It's a rotary barrel design, and it reduces weight by 40% compared to the other 5.7 millimeters on the market. And it's not just innovative. It's built for real-world performance with ease of use in mind. So for a limited time, you can win your own Kel-Tec. Just head over to Kel-TecWeapons.com slash Dana. Enter their SHOT Show Week giveaway right before midnight Thursday. That's a deadline. The winner, I'll announce it live on air. The winner, Friday, January 24th. So don't miss your chance to own the future of concealed carry. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com slash Dana. Kel-Tec. Innovation performance made in the USA.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you, broadcasting live from SHOT Show in Las Vegas, NSSF's annual event. And we are here finishing out the last few minutes with Donald Trump Jr. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's my pleasure. I know you're tired, man. But I'm still at SHOT Show. I know. Because you really like us. I went from one zoo to another. Right. I know.
SPEAKER 21 :
And you've been busy with your companies. Yes. We were just talking about this on break. The idea of the average everyday citizen being able to... have shares in a firearms manufacturing company and be able to take ownership, partnership of that. That's not something that's typically a reality for the average everyday person, but you're making that possible by making it accessible.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm just trying to open that door. Like, you know, I'm a believer, you know, before I was, I was at SHOT Show before politics, right? It wasn't like, it's like, oh, now I have to be a gun guy. Like, it's actually... He's not like Tim Walls. But, yeah. But, you know, just being able to do that, fight back, you know, that way. So, you know, like I said, between Public Square, which we took public, and, you know, that's going to be a whole payment stack for everything we brought. Kudrova, under that, and now taking... taking grab-a-gun public under CLBR right now, and that'll automatically turn into P-E-W, Pew. Pew, Pew, which is amazing. I want to ask you real quick. Get out there and buy some stock. We want to make sure that we have the roadmap to take these other guys to company.
SPEAKER 21 :
We've got 30 seconds left. When are you running for office? Real fast.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, God. No time soon, because someone has to do the outside stuff, too. But I also helped us set up a bench with a J.D. Vance and some of these other guys that can take America First forward.
SPEAKER 21 :
Excellent. John's familiar with the Dexter Taylor story. Any help that we could get with the Dexter Taylor story through DOJ?
SPEAKER 12 :
It's sort of like us, right? It's like New York, yeah. It's done in New York. They do it in the states so you can't get that federal pardon, right? They tried going after us that way. My father's guilty. It's all nonsense. So we've got to fix these problems because they shouldn't be happening and they shouldn't be weaponizing government.
SPEAKER 21 :
Donald Trump Jr., congratulations.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I agree with you. It was a very... muted response. I wasn't expecting... I keep my expectations low whenever I preach, Erin. And I don't always... I can't always measure impact by body language or even what people say afterwards. And so I have to let all of that go. I speak from what I believe I've been given to say and... This is that pastor. ...and let it go from there. But I actually, it was... Or priestess or... It was a respectful response. He didn't like it. He said so. He said we could do better.
SPEAKER 21 :
What is I mean, what do I want to call her? Because she's not like a reverend. I don't believe in, you know, like I don't believe in unicorns and assault weapons. I also don't believe in.
SPEAKER 19 :
I have a suggestion. I don't know if it's good.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, I got one, too. But I mean, I didn't think you'd let me have a green light on that one. But I mean, I can I can fling that, you know, out there into the.
SPEAKER 19 :
Was yours bitchup? Because mine, that's what mine was.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, no. Mine was way more consonants.
SPEAKER 19 :
Mine's bitchup.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 19 :
Bitchup.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, I had mine was incorporated a consonant.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yours probably shouldn't. Okay.
SPEAKER 21 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this third hour broadcasting live from SHOT Show NSSF. And it is a crazy, crazy, it's an interesting event that they do every single year. And we're at Caltech's booth here. It's like a Snow White box. Is it bigger this year? This is a bigger booth this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're in like this glass, like soundproof as best as you can in the middle of a convention floor area. So that's where we're at right now. We'll have some behind the scenes stuff, especially if you're a subscriber over at Chapter and Verse. Always, always good things. But but yeah, this was they do this, you know, obviously every year we've been coming here for years. Usually we're in a quiet little room and we don't simulcast because it's kind of difficult to make that happen. But we're here. in Caltech's booth with the broadcast. All right, so a million different things to hit. We've been talking about a number of different issues, including... the executive orders that have been coming through, and the simple fact that they're, I mean, now we have the, I'm going to throw this up, this headline, they're coming in fast and furious, Cain, all these orders and edicts. Let me share one with you now. So the State Department has told embassies and outposts only fly the stars and stripes. that you're not allowed to fly any of the other rainbow flags or anything like that, that all state department, the state department told all embassies, all outposts, only stars and stripes. This is from Free Beacon. No more pride flags, no more Black Lives Matter flags. When we were in Rome a couple of years ago, this is when I saw it. We drove past the U.S. embassy in Rome and Over this balcony, there was a little portico here. Over the balcony, they had draped this huge pride flag. And then they didn't just have the pride flag. And I took photos of it. I posted it to Twitter. They had the trans flag. And then somebody had some Palestinian something are up. I mean, Gazan, because Palestine's also fake. But the flag, it was weird because the Italian embassy didn't do it. None of the other embassies that were there in Rome did it, but the United States embassy did it. And it was weird. It was like they were trying to look how good we are. Look how cool we are. We were the only embassy that was doing it. And we drove by it. And it was I mean, they had an American flag that was flying, but the flag that they had draped over was bigger than that flag. And it was weird to see that. And so now that's not going to happen anymore. It's a newly issued order. The Washington Free Beacon got a copy of it, and it does ban these facilities from displaying flags that are affiliated with, you know, that's not the United States flag. There's no reason. So now we have our Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, they're making this happen. So that's another order that came out. Also, the affirmative action DEI offices have been shut down. And the obstruction cases as it pertains to deportation, the local officials for the DOJ are local officials. They're claiming that they're being targeted by the DOJ. in these obstruction cases. They're not being targeted. They're being forced to do their jobs. The DOJ under the Trump administration initiated these criminal investigations into all of these state and local officials who obstructed this federal immigration enforcement. And it aligns with, you know, they're going into mass deportations, et cetera, et cetera. And so ICE is already going into and looking at California. They're already doing these investigations. I love, this is what gets me. Jennifer Griffin, did you see what she said about this? Reporter. Griffin said ICE is already targeting undocumented immigrants who have not committed crimes. Citrus farmers in California across the nation warn, blah, blah, blah, that it's going to disrupt the nation's food supply. You know, coming into the country illegally is a violation of US law. She's supposed to be a reporter that covers the Pentagon. Like, what happened to her? That's asinine. Yes, if you're here illegally, you got to go. It's not any different than if you were in Italy. They're pretty hardcore about it. So if you're in Italy, you check into a hotel, you better get ready to show your passport because they're not going to let you have the room. You got to show your passport. They copy all your information. They take it down. And they want to know, you know, if you're like walking out and about, they always tell you. It's part of like, what is it, the Shane Agreement? One of those, the member, I think there's like 28 countries that are a member of that. So if you're in one of those nations in Europe, when you're walking around, you're supposed to be carrying your passport. And in Italy, they definitely want you to carry your passport. And then there are people who say, well, you can carry copies, but you can't because it's up to the discretion of their police that they stop you if you don't have your real thing or not. So you're just supposed to keep an eye and be very protective of your actual one. Compare that to here in the United States. Now, we're not forcing people to do that in the United States. It's pretty unbelievable, is it not? People aren't being forced to do it, but yet, still, the United States is not allowed to have that kind of sovereignty. We're not allowed to exercise the protection of that sovereignty either. So, all of these things, like I said, it's like drinking from a fire hose. All of these orders that are out, and I'm pulling up a few others here for you as well, all of these orders that are being released dealing with energy uh dealing with immigration uh and there's going to be lawsuits as well that are going to that are going to kick off then of course we've got the economic situation and the uh which is going to be greatly helped by unleashing domestic energy getting out of the paris that's stupid that fake non-ratified agreement will also that'll that'll work well uh audio sound bite seven i want to go to another sound bite here this is trump just to touch on this woke pastor who He was asked if he found it exciting. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mr. President, what did you think of the sermon? What did you think of the sermon?
SPEAKER 26 :
What did you think of the sermon? What did you think? Did you like it? Did you find it exciting? Not too exciting, was it? I do think it was a good service. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thank you, Press. I think he was trying to be classy about it. Did you see J.D. Vance's face? It's a meme now. Now, Trump has also announced Stargate. It's a new American company that's going to invest billions, audio soundbite one, billions in AI infrastructure. They're looking at data centers in a number of states. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Together, these world-leading technology giants are... announcing the formation of Stargate. So put that name down in your books, because I think you're going to hear a lot about it in the future. A new American company that will invest $500 billion, at least, in AI infrastructure in the United States and very quickly, moving very rapidly, creating over 100,000 American jobs almost immediately.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's a very interesting proposal. those jobs that it would make. And this, of course, is on the heels of that H-1B debate as well. That's a very interesting proposal. So it's a massive AI investment. And this is a private investment, by the way. And it's coming from open AI. So it's not... You know, taxpayer dollars that's being funded into it. It's a private investment. So Oracle, SoftBank and OpenAI are all those are the companies. Notice that they were all also weren't they all all three of these people also at the inauguration and some of that? I think they may have been. But the CEOs of these companies, they were in the White House when they announced it. And they said that they're going to create new data centers across the United States. They said they want to keep it in the country. They said 10 data centers for the project were already under construction in Texas alone. And even more are planned. They said that Stargate is going to start with the data center project in Texas, expand to these other states. The CEO of SoftBank said that he promised to invest at least $100 billion in the U.S. And then Trump's response was, well, you should make it 200 billion. Now the plan is to invest up to 500 billion in the next four years. And the CEO, Masayoshi Son, had said that he said that it would not have happened if Trump had not won the election. So and apparently one executive order, I mean, pull this has already been signed to that effect. So Yahoo. says that the at least one has already been assigned. So that's pretty significant. So we've got the AI infrastructure, then you have the energy revitalization, this is going to be really good, this is gonna be really good stuff for the economy, very good for the economy. And so I, it sounds like it's us jobs to we're not going to be bringing in on h1 B, a number of people who've had that debate. So this is, but it's private investment. That's the key, private investment. I want to go to some of this audio as well. I'm trying to get everything in. Actually, I should wait. We're going to do headlines because Mike Johnson, remarked on California. You know, a lot of Democrats in California are trying to make it like a big thing. Like, why isn't the Trump administration want to help California more? On January 24th, as the nation comes together for the March for Life, Preborn proudly stands in solidarity with the movement, reaffirming their dedication. with the Sanctity of Life Month and the protection of every unborn child. And more great news, the abortion pill reversal treatment is giving women a second chance to choose life, bringing babies back to life and empowering women. Join Preborn Ministries in supporting women in their darkest hours. With God's love and free services, Preborn's network of clinics are ready to help women choose life. and help start the new year right by supporting life just for $28. Just $28. You can provide one ultrasound with a gift of $140. You can help rescue five babies and your donation can make a real difference. And if you're able, consider a leadership gift to save babies. A $5,000 donation sponsors Preborn's network for 24 hours, rescuing 200 babies. Donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250 baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Donate today for the sanctity of life at preborn.com slash Dana.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right. So now there's a lot of discussion about AI being used to treat mental health. And it comes from this piece that says my therapist is a bot. The rise of AI and mental health treatments. That's kind of, I don't know how I feel about that. Like that's, That, couldn't that manipulate people? Sorry, I can't do that, Dave. I'm really sorry about that. Sorry, Dave. It's just weird to me. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. Earth's magnetic north pole is on the move. Scientists just updated its position. Oh, but I thought that the world was flat and that this didn't revolve. Oh, wait. No, that's a new story. New model tracking of the position of the magnetic north pole so that the pole's not closer to Siberia than it was five years ago. It's drifting downwards towards Russia. An Australian influencer said, is charged with poisoning her baby for clicks. for clicks. I hate the term influencer. An Australian influencer charged with poisoning her baby girl to elicit donations, make people feel bad for her and boost her online followers. She pretended that her kid had a terminal illness and she was poisoning this baby, 34 years old. She was charged with torture, administering poison, making child exploitation material and fraud. I mean, Life isn't enough. She was trying to raise money on GoFundMe for herself. It's not enough. If you're feeling angry, venting doesn't help, says a new study per the BBC. The idea of venting your anger, apparently it doesn't help. It doesn't make you calm down by letting it.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's not what I've been told and that's not what I've experienced. I think it's wrong. I think so too.
SPEAKER 21 :
I think these are all lies and I don't believe a single bit of it. So, no. Let's see. This... I've never heard of this. Cow gallstones. So like this gallstones from a cow are apparently a big enough thing to steal. People have been breaking into slaughterhouses to steal cow gallstones and they say it's twice as valuable as gold. Suddenly I want cattle. It's like they're hardened nuggets of bile. It's really prevalent in Brazil. And they're orange. You know what they look like? They look like hush puppies. they look like hush puppies yeah they said they're orange colored hardened cattle gallstones it is one of the most treasured ingredients in traditional chinese medicine and now it's like being used for all kinds of stuff selling them aren't it's not illegal in brazil but uh it's now a big flourishing practice though the trade for it underground that is okay that that takes like sweet bread And goes above and beyond. That's absolutely insane. That is absolutely insane. So, you know, I mean, what would it sell for? I'm so interested in this story. Okay, I got more. Huh? I know, but can you just buy cattle and feed them a diet? That would be mean. Feed them a diet that would make them have it. I don't know. On this day in history, 1814, the first Knights Templar great encampment in New York City. And Roe v. Wade, which is now undone, was decided in 1973. very interesting uh ice teams are out in force with deportations per numerous reporting uh they're out in force there it's underway it has started uh tom homan's sitting back there his eyes turned red like lasers and uh he's you know deploy deploy ice agents uh also there's um Harvard University had settled their anti-Semitic lawsuits. They're promising to combat it. Let's see here. This. Oh, I'm going to pull this up. We're going to talk about this coming up as well. Some SCOTUS news. Supreme Court. But the SCOTUS order list, there's no reference to a couple of different firearms cases that are going to be integral to 2A coming up. We're going to talk about that with Michael Cargill as well, my next guest here at SHOT Show, NSSF, broadcasting from the Kel-Tec booth. Stick with us. Our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. Patriot Mobile not only wants to save you money, but they just want to make sure that you have amazing customer service from their U.S.-based customer service team. Right now, you can get a free month of service by using promo code DANA. Only at PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or by calling 972-PATRIOT. It's nationwide coverage you can trust. They operate on all three major networks. You're connected wherever you go. Seamless switching. And you're making a difference with your phone service because you're not giving your hard-earned dollars to the things that you vote against at the ballot box, right? Support what you believe in. You deserve it. And you deserve to pay less. And you're going to pay less with Patriot Mobile because they're not supporting all the big progressive stuff. They do responsible... advocacy of liberty and they're great stewards of their customers. Visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get that free month of service with promo code Dana. Switch today, defend freedom every time you use their service. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana, 972-PATRIOT.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. We're supposed to be, but we may end up missing him. Supposed to be sitting with Michael Carville. He ran away. He's the guy who brought that bump stock suit. And that was, you remember, the bump stock ruling was vacated. And also, he's been fighting for concealed carry reciprocity as well. So if he shows up, we'll talk to him. But we might... we might not how's it not like a kid in a candy store when you're michael cargill at shot show well there's like so there he is let's judge him as he walks in because if you're you're either listening across the country or you're also watching the simulcast on channel 347 direct tv as well and so uh he's coming all in right now it's my my dear sir you have been running everywhere Go ahead and have him come over. We're live. We're chilling. But he's going to sit in a minute. Now, you remember the Cargill versus the United States Bonstock ban, and that was like a huge it's over. But, I mean, it is crazy that you have to go to that extent just to fight to affirm your rights. Have a seat, my friend. Your rights constitutionally. Michael Cargill. You're running all over God's green earth. He's also the owner, by the way, he's a firearms owner of Central Texas Gunworks at SendTexGuns on, I keep wanting to say Twitter, on X. Michael, you're not running around anywhere today, are you, my friend? We're all getting our cardio in today. They don't realize you've got to walk for 5, 11, 200 miles just to get out here. It's a crazy thing. So congrats, by the way, on the victory.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you. Absolutely. We've got quite a few victories I want to talk about. So the bump stock lawsuit, which is the big one, which we went all the way to the United States Supreme Court. And so that's Michael Cargill versus the United States government. And we won that case. And I'm glad I stuck it out because we got down to the end and the ATF tried to return my bump stocks back to me.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, wait, that's so nice. They did. Oh, how nice is that? The ATF giving you the property that they stole back to you.
SPEAKER 01 :
So but I had to refuse to take them back because we wanted the judge to sign the order ordering them to return them to everyone in the entire country. That's nice of you.
SPEAKER 21 :
If you did that, then everybody else would still have their stuff confiscated.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's correct. And so the ATF is not going to return bump stocks to anyone unless the judge signs that order and they're actually ordered to do so. So I'm glad I stuck it out to the end. And now everyone in the entire country, the bump stocks that were confiscated by the ATF, you can actually get your bump stock back from your local ATF.
SPEAKER 21 :
Wow. From your neighborhood, your friendly local neighborhood ATF that I'm sure sends you like a Christmas card every year. Every year. So we're talking with our friend Michael Cargill and you can find him at michaelcargill.com as well. This, let me, I want to come back to some of these victories too, but I wanted to get your thoughts. I saw this last night when I was flying in. The shuttering of that Oh, what is it? The White House Office for Gun Violence Prevention. That's great. I'm happy that they closed it. Can we do the ATF next?
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely. I have a plan. We've got to get Congress to actually get a comprehensive bill. within the next two years and get it added to the budget so that way we can totally just gut the ATF and shut it down. And it has to be done by Congress. Congress has got to do this. Not an ATF director. Not executive order. It's got to be done by Congress. And we have two years to do this because if we don't do it in two years, we risk that chance of losing the House or the Senate.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. From midterms. Yeah. And even then, really, six months before that cycle starts. That's right. And then everybody runs to the Senate. Let me ask you this. Is this... The formula that the federal government, through these ATF edicts, used in order to do this, I mean, they're exceeding their authority. They're creating these edicts that's not passed in Congress. And they were determined to have basically got over their skis. And it was also used, the same formula, CDC with the rent moratoriums during COVID. That is correct. Can that not be the formula that's used for every single edict now coming from the ATF, or am I missing something?
SPEAKER 01 :
No, you're spot on. The Cargill case actually has established case law to actually stop all the different agencies, all those government agencies, and say, hey, you cannot create a right law. I don't care if you're OSHA. I don't care if you're Department of Transportation, whatever. You can't create law. You have to go through Congress, and Congress is going to have to write a bill, and the president's got to sign it for it to become law. So they can't just turn millions of Americans into felons overnight or shut you down or make you shutter in place or actually shut your church down doing COVID.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, exactly. That's good. The Cargill case precedent. That's what we're doing. And if you remember the vacated bump stock ban rule, now we've got the pistol brace fight.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's right. So with the Cargill case, it stops the ATF from going after the pistol brace, triggers. We're talking whatever part or pieces that the ATF is trying to do, it totally shuts them down completely. And so I've been talking with college students that are in law school from all around the country that are excited by this because, you know, this establishes, you know, precedence.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, it's huge. It's huge. The... There was a bill filed, and I'm sure you're familiar with this, Michael Cloud out of Texas, a senator out of Idaho. It's the Stop Registry Act, because federally, the feds are not allowed to keep your data, to use it essentially as a backdoor registry. However, the ATF has millions upon millions of records. of purchase, like purchase history. So that's essentially a de facto registry that has been allowed, Michael, to exist this entire time. This bill coming from Representative Cloud and then the senator from Idaho is an intent to stop that, although I think that's going to have a hard time in the Senate.
SPEAKER 01 :
Here's what they did. The Biden administration enacted this zero tolerance policy where he said, you know, we're going to have a zero tolerance policy. And if we catch any gun stores making any small paperwork errors, we're going to shut them down. And when he shut down those gun stores, they took those records. And it actually created a de facto registry because they put all that stuff on a microfiche and they have all that data from all those gun stores that were actually shut down. It was a plan they put in place and they executed this plan. And so I actually filed a lawsuit against the ATF to stop that. And so we actually won that. We got the ATF to reverse their policy because what happened was we were requesting a summary judgment from the judge. And the judge said, you know, he's signaling that he was actually going to grant my summary judgment against the ATF. So the ATF decided to back down and change their policy and go back because the Biden administration did not want to take another loss before he left from office. And so we got them to stop going after the mom and pop gun stores and shutting them down and reverting back to their previous policy.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, that's huge. Talking with Michael Cargill, as you know, he was I mean, he's been suing the ATF and the federal government. That's what he does in addition to operating Central Texas Gun Works. What do you what are your thoughts? I mean, new new administration. New people in the cabinet. Yes. I feel like this administration's gotten off on a really good foot where it concerns 2A. I didn't have that feeling in 2016, but I feel like so far, I haven't disliked anything I've heard. I thought it's been, I mean, he called for national reciprocity, concealed carry reciprocity. We got the destruction of that gun violence, whatever. And they're like looking at how they're going to tackle the ATF. What are your thoughts on all this?
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm so happy that President Trump had a four-year break in there. A lot of people are hesitant about this. I'm glad he had that four-year break because he had the opportunity to take a break and say, look, this is what they did to me my first four years. And he came back now, experienced, knowing exactly what he wanted to do, having a plan and stepping in the door day one and totally shutting things down and executing executive orders and just firing people immediately. Day one, first hour, I love it. Exactly the way it should be done. We also need to get an ATF director, I don't care who it is, to go in there and say, you know what, let's go ahead and let's reduce that 4473. Immediately, the director can do this. We're gonna change the 4473, make it a half a pager, so that way, all they need is for you to put your name, your driver's license information and they can run your background check. That's what police officers do when they pull you over on the side of the road. They get your driver's license information. They know everything about you when you're on the side of the highway there. So there's no reason why we can't get just that information there on a 4473. We don't need all those other stuff. That stuff would answer all those stupid questions about, you know, have you done this or whatever. That needs to be eliminated from that page. If you want that on there, leave it on there for people that were born outside the country. Let them have that three-pager.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, let them have the three pages. I like your thinking on that. I was talking with our friend Michael Cargill, and you can find him on xmichaeldcargill as well. I keep on wanting to say Twitter. All right, so are we going to get national reciprocity?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes, we need to get the national reciprocity passed because that way...
SPEAKER 21 :
We've got a narrow majority in the Senate. And we've got to get past the 60 threshold.
SPEAKER 01 :
The good thing is we even have some of our weak senators that are on board with this. Both our senators from Texas, Senator John Cornyn is actually on board with it. So I'm thinking that we actually can... I talked to him about that the other day.
SPEAKER 21 :
I was a little surprised. I was like, how do you reconcile being for this, but yet you were on that bipartisan blah, blah, blah, safer community thing back in 22. How... What's that about? And he didn't know what to say. It was very interesting. But, you know, at least maybe he's doing the right thing. You know, maybe, I don't know, maybe it's a new year, new him. Who knows?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, so, you know, I think it's going to happen. And, you know, President Trump said, you know what, this is what he wants to do. So I think they can actually get it done within the first hundred days. and get this passed. So that way we can go across, you know, I would like to go to New York, you know, and with my license and carry it in New York. I'd love to go to California and help them out with the wildfires in California, but I need my gun in order to do that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, especially with like the looting and everything that's happening. I mean, the last thing, you're out there helping somebody recover from wildfires and people pull up in a van and... And robbing you.
SPEAKER 01 :
Robbing the first responders.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Their friend Michael Cargill, who is... What's your next fight? What's your next fight? Because you're always in court.
SPEAKER 01 :
I think that we need to focus on the ATF and this first year and getting something, a comprehensive bill through Congress, through the Senate, passed to the President's desk so he can sign it. Let's go ahead and put this in the package... that's for the the budget so we can get something passed and really make some major changes that are going to stick i don't want a d president step into office and undoing within 24 hours what president trump has done right you know because the same thing can happen so we don't want that happen we want this to be a law and to be etched in stone so that way it cannot be undone there you go my very good friend michael cargill you just let us know when you want to come on and go with these people because it's always very fun because you win are you tired of winning No, love winning. I love beating the city of Austin, the liberal mecca of Texas, so gun owners can carry in their building. I love, you know, fighting for concealed carry on campus. I love fighting for open carry in Texas. I love all that stuff, you know, so that's what we do. And I'm going to continue the fight. Not going to stop.
SPEAKER 21 :
There you go. We appreciate you. Thank you for, because, you know, it's not just for you. It's on behalf of all of us.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's for everyone.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, so we're very grateful. Thank you, Michael Cargill. And you can find him on, I did say on X, did I give it out yet? Michael D. Cargill.
SPEAKER 01 :
You got it. Michael D. Cargill on X. There you go.
SPEAKER 21 :
Right there. Thank you, my friend. Thank you.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely. Thank you so much.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the end of our third hour. Kind of went fast today. And of course, we're broadcasting here until Friday from SHOT Show. We're at the Caltech booth as well. And a lot of very interesting folks. Stop by. If you missed our conversation with Donald Trump Jr., that's going to be... YouTube Facebook all that good stuff so we're gonna have it all up there so you can go back and you can you can check it out so all good stuff hey guys all good stuff all good stuff we're in so we're in this glass box it's like the Snow White box yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like a it's like a Snow White box and uh there's there's all it's fun because people come by and you can like wave at them and you never know there was a ton of people out there a little earlier uh it's just still a lot of people milling around but um all good things all good things but we're talking about you know obviously this is a very promising start to a new year because you've got you know the national it takes me forever to say it white house office it's a very long thing The White House office has gone back. It's a very long thing. And they that was so that's been closed. We've got I mean, there's there's these other bills going through Congress. There's so that's all good. I feel like, you know, the mood here is really. Can I just say people feel less doom and gloom? than they normally do. I was talking to Don about this earlier, and he was saying that the weird thing is that, you know, people fear cells. So you're probably and it's weird to say this. You might see fewer firearms sold like now during this period of peace and prosperity because people don't feel like, you know, they're going to get shot up in their own home because of the restorative justice and all of the corruption. And it feels like they, you know, so people are coming and they're looking at stuff because they're genuinely interested. And I think it encourages them to look at more things, like maybe something that they necessarily wouldn't look at if they were solely focused on getting just a defense, like a strictly like home defense or something to that effect. Anyway, all good things. All good things. Now, like I said, we'll be broadcasting tomorrow from here. We're getting guests lined up for you. When we get anything, we'll put it out on Facebook or X because it's a little bit like herding cats at an event like this. It's very hard to get where we are. We're in the middle of this floor. I'm looking at some airsoft guns right now. They told me that I could get those out.
SPEAKER 19 :
What?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. So how fun would it be if I'm just like plinking people?
SPEAKER 19 :
Do they know who they're giving permission to? For crying out loud? Yeah, me.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's crazy. I am like one of the most capable people. I mean, we could have some fun with that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Tomorrow we have Gun Fu Master Taryn Butler.
SPEAKER 21 :
He's an alien.
SPEAKER 19 :
He is.
SPEAKER 21 :
Have you ever watched? So he did all the John Wick stuff. He's worked on everything on God's green earth. He is the literal best shooter in the world.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep. Without a doubt.
SPEAKER 21 :
Legitimately the best shooter.
SPEAKER 19 :
Without a doubt.
SPEAKER 21 :
In multiple disciplines. I didn't know you could be a grandmaster in shooting. You can be. He is. So we got him.
SPEAKER 19 :
Missouri's Attorney General, Andrew Bailey tomorrow. So that's who's on slate for tomorrow. We'll see how it works out.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right. Today in stupidity before I eat up all your time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Come on. There's so much stupid. I don't even know how to articulate it all. But it looks like Justin Trudeau won. So let's hear this.
SPEAKER 21 :
No. I don't want to hear it. I reject it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Why is this not playing?
SPEAKER 21 :
Because I said no. And the universe listened to me.
SPEAKER 19 :
Just trust me. It's Trudeau, and it's horribly stupid.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, there you go. Folks, that does it for us today. Find us on Facebook, YouTube, like, and subscribe. I'll be back here tomorrow broadcasting from Shot.
As President Trump's tenure begins, so do discussions on significant political actions and polarizing public events. Today, we focus on an impassioned plea from a bishop during a prayer service, which brought Trump and the church into a collision of ideologies. We delve into the public's visceral reactions on such matters, emphasizing the role of dissent in a thriving democracy, and the day's headlines, including infrastructure initiatives and national security priorities.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, here's Mike Deller.
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Trump's first full day in office, and are we jam-packed with things to talk about on a Wednesday. Welcome in. My goodness. There is so much to wrap our brains around. The January 6th commutations and pardons are getting a lot of attention. We need to talk about that. The big infrastructure package that he launched, we need to talk about that with AI. His DEI fires, the security clearances being revoked, unleashing American energy, border security is a priority, all these executive actions. He's changing the scope of government before our very eyes. And what a time, what a time to be president. Now, I might as well take my medicine. I'm going to take my lumps because one of the big news stories yesterday was this Bishop Budde of the Washington Church, or Budde, I don't know how you pronounce her last name, B-U-D-D-E, lecturing Trump and Vance from the pulpit as they participated in a prayer service. And there's been lots of emotion about it, lots of anger directed at the bishop. And my position is probably not going to be very popular, but that's okay. I speak from the heart. And I remember getting in trouble over the Broadway cast lecturing Mike Pence because it didn't bother me. Mike Pence got the same kind of lecture from, from a Broadway cast when he took his family to see a show, and Pence turned to his daughter and said, that's what democracy sounds like. And that was okay. You know, I get concerned sometimes at the way each side doesn't listen to the other side. I get concerned how we all think that and I'm guilty of this, believe me, that our way is the only way, and our belief is the way it has to be, and there's no room for any dissent. I like dissent. I like debate. I like disagreement. And while it probably wasn't the right time or place for this bishop, Some could argue asking an incoming president for compassion and mercy from a church pulpit is exactly the right time and place. Now, I know all about this bishop. She's far left. She hates Trump. She's alarmed at his presidency. And from a practical standpoint, I don't even know why she would have been the one allowed to give the sermon. I would think they have teams of people who vet circumstances like that in advance so that Trump isn't put in sort of an uncomfortable position. But I don't think he was. And, of course, Trump being Trump, he responded. The way Trump, you would expect him to respond to her message. Here's the message, in case you didn't hear it. It was all over the news last night, so we're going to spend a few minutes on it. And again, you're probably going to disagree with me, and that's okay. You're not going to get an argument from me if you express outrage or righteous indignation over what the bishop did. So you've got President Trump and the First Lady, Melania. You've got J.D. Vance and the Second Lady, Usha, in the pews, along with the Trump family. And this bishop does a sermon. And she is a woke, leftist bishop. No question about it. Here's what she said to Trump from the pulpit.
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In the name of our God, I ask you. to have mercy upon the people in our country. And we're scared now. There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican, and Independent families, some who fear for their lives. And the people, the people who pick our crops, and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. They pay taxes and are good neighbors. They are faithful members of our churches and mosques. synagogues, wadara, and temples. I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away, and that you help those who are fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, I know what you're already saying, and I'm getting plenty of text messages. She needs to be removed. She was rude. She was out of place. And President Trump responded on Truth Social overnight. He said the so-called bishop who spoke was a radical left hardline Trump hater. She brought her church into the world of politics in a very ungracious way. She was nasty in tone and not compelling or smart. She failed to mention the large number of illegal migrants that came into our country and killed people. Many were deposited from jails and mental institutions. It's a giant crime wave that is taking place in the USA. Apart from her inappropriate statements, the service was a very boring and uninspiring one. She's not very good at her job. She and her church owe the public an apology. Look, that's his response, and I get that too. I don't mind any of it. I don't mind a back and forth. And I believe we ought to be willing to hear people who say, I'm afraid of what could come next. There's nothing wrong with that. It's up to us to reassure people that they shouldn't be afraid. If you haven't broken the law, and you're not here illegally, and you haven't committed a crime, you have nothing to worry about. And Trump is not going to take... people in the LGBT community and put them in institutions or gulags or put them on an island. In fact, arguably Trump has hired more gay people in his cabinet and in top layers of the highest echelons of power. The Treasury Secretary is a gay guy married to a man with kids. That's Trump's Treasury Secretary. And you're going to tell me he's a homophobe? But it's up to us to engage in people like this far-left woke bishop, hear her out, respond. It's like the cast haranguing Mike Pence at the Broadway show. And Mike Pence turned to his daughter and said, this is what democracy sounds like, and I'm okay with that. I thought it was a great moment. I get it. Look, it was designed to take a shot at Trump. I get it. It was designed to try to embarrass him. I get it. I get all of that. And you're not going to get an argument from me when you call 800-655-MIKE and yell at me. I'm just going to tell you in advance, don't worry. I'm not going to disagree with you about how you feel viscerally about what that bishop did. But I also want us to consider the fact that dissent is okay. We shouldn't shut down people who are nervous or afraid or worried or upset about the outcome. We didn't like the four years of the Biden-Harris administration. And I wouldn't have wanted to have any of us shut down. or disparage for how we feel. And, of course, they did. And we get it. And we should actually, with love, point out to this misguided bishop, what taxes do illegals pay? Oh, that's right. Her side likes to say, well, they pay sales tax. They've got to buy things. And when they buy things, they inevitably have to – they're not paying taxes. They don't have Social Security cards. They're taking health care benefits from American citizens. But it's up to us to respond with facts and knowledge and, yes, with mercy and kindness and compassion. Nothing wrong with a bishop asking for mercy and compassion from the pulpit. I understand knowing who she is and what she is, a far-left activist, where she's coming from. And it's okay. It's all right. And then Trump responded in kind. That's good. It's okay. Let's not run from it. So, look, again, I know my position isn't particularly unpopular. I want to give you plenty of opportunities to have your say. And the way you do it is 800-655-MIKE. One call gets you... You know, either a text or a phone call, one number does it all, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Welcome aboard. It's a Wednesday. We're in the Relief Factor studios. Feel free to sound off, and let's do what we like to do around here. Have some dissent. Have some discussion. Have some dialogue. Nothing wrong with it from where I sit. How about you? Let's find out.
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Mike Gallagher.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I also want to make sure you know this story about the bishop is a giant distraction from some real important things that are happening in this country. And I promise you, we're going to spend five minutes on this and we're going to move on. Because I don't want to kind of take the bait. And be distracted. But a lot of reaction, a lot of passion, a lot of emotion. Text message from San Antonio, Texas. Mike, you are spot on as a fellow conservative. I find your position refreshing. That's why I love your show. You don't always march lockstep with the... political talking point of the day. Thank you, San Antonio. But here's Pennsylvania. Sadly, many in the Christian church have traded their Christian religion for the religion, quote unquote, of liberalism, communism, and even Marxism. Like many U.S. Jews, other than the Orthodox, have traded their Judaism for liberalism, communism, and Marxism. Ask Dennis Prager. And we're also continuing to pray for Dennis as he continues to recover in the hospital from his very, very serious fall. Oklahoma, not okay. Should never use the pulpit for political reasons, not in the church. I'm disappointed the church would let her in the pulpit. And incidentally, that's another big story about how the Episcopal Church has gotten so far left. And this is a great issue, too, on its own about the secularization and even the hijacking, some would say, of American churches. Here's a question from Pennsylvania. How come the left is allowed to violate their own made-up statute of separation of church and state? And finally from Rhode Island. Mike, I totally agree with you. What a good pastor missed is that those folks are scared to death because the progressive left has misrepresented or exaggerated the president's intended actions. Bingo. Absolutely true. Completely true. Jennifer is in Delaware, Ohio. Hi, Jennifer. How are you? Hi. How are you, Mike? I'm good. I'm good. Welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I love your show, and I agree with part of what you said. I do believe that we need to have conversation back and forth from both sides, and hopefully we can be civil about it. But I disagree with this being the opportunity for that, with a bishop using it for the prayer service. I feel like when you go into church and you're having a prayer service, this should be about God and this should be about what we can do to glorify him and bring honor to him and what we can do to serve him. And the president is in a position where he can. do things to serve God.
SPEAKER 15 :
So that's kind of where I'm at. No, totally get it. Again, I'm not going to disagree with anybody who doesn't see this the way I do. I just like, people were mad at me about the Mike Pence thing. I like that. I like, okay, let the cast say, hey, Mr. Vice President, we're afraid. We're scared. What are you going to do? You're a scary new era for us. And he said, this is what democracy sounds like. And I'm like, I'm okay with all that. Nothing wrong with that. That's fine. We shouldn't be afraid to talk or hear from people who don't see the world the way we do. That's all. We shouldn't run from that. And look, they got their own headaches over there with this bishop. You look at some of her comments, especially in the past and over George Floyd and all of that. Look, she is who she is. Let's just not pretend that these people aren't Americans who, you know, are very anxious about the next four years. I think a little grace goes a long way. Speaking of George Floyd, I've got a really simple question. How many years are you supposed to go to prison for breaking a window? Or even, yes, assaulting a cop, something that I abhor. But how long? 100 years? 30 years? How many life sentences are you supposed to get? for developing a website. Let's dive into this January 6th pardons and commutation debate next. There's no better time than right now to call my friends at PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition to start your journey to a healthier you. As I hear from you about how PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition has changed your life, I know that each one of us has had our own reasons for starting. I started my journey because I gained enough weight and was ready to make a change. I sat down with Dr. Ashley Lucas, and like they say, the rest was history. I lost 53 pounds, and I've kept it off. We all have different reasons for starting. consultation call 864-644-1900 864-644-1900 or just go to myphdweightloss.com myphdweightloss.com
SPEAKER 13 :
The Mike Gallagher show where these people punished. Yes. Were they ruined financially? Yes. Did they spend time in jail? Yes. Have their lives been ruined? Absolutely. And one of you said earlier, Van, or Axe, that you think this sends a terrible signal that you can get away with things like this. As though we've never had a moment in recent American history when people were not punished for rampaging around when they shouldn't have been. It was the summer of 2020.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Gosh, that's Scott Jennings at CNN. He's so good. He's so good. He nailed it over this drama about the January 6th pardons and commutations. Got a nice text message from Matt in St. Louis. Wow, I just found your show while browsing through X, and I love everything you stand for. You're my kind of conservative. A conservative with heart. That's nice. And, you know, we are streaming on X, which is pretty cool. Low numbers today. What's going on? It's like a couple hundred, right? Come on. We're going through all this work to stream on X for the first time. You got to, you know, feel free to engage. You know, as you're driving around, you're listening to us on the radio or you're watching us on Salem News Channel or you got Samsung TV Plus pulled up and whatever. But if you're on your computer or your smartphone... I mean, Christian is breaking his back to make this work. At Gallagher Show, that's our handle on X, and we're streaming. You know, I've seen a couple of other shows and networks stream, and I thought, why can't we do the same thing? Let's do it. Let's try it. So we're trying it. I think we got up to like 3,000 or 2,800 the other day. Let's see if we can break some records. And all I ask is you follow me. And hundreds of people, we've got a lot of new followers this week because of our live stream. So we're streaming the show on X at Gallagher Show. We're still kind of tweaking it a little bit. We're working out some of the kinks. But thank you, Matt, in St. Louis. I'm glad you found us, and I appreciate your kind words. You know, there's a rumor that the reason some of these bishops and politicians... you know, are oblivious to the real world is they're not all that smart. Now, I don't want to say that the mayor of Philadelphia isn't smart. I would never do that. I don't know much about Sherelle Parker. But there's a video clip that has gone viral of the mayor of Philly, Sherelle Parker, who's very excited about her Philadelphia Eagles. They're advancing in the playoffs. They beat the Rams. Now they're playing the Washington Redskins. I won't call them commanders. That's stupid. They're the Washington Redskins. And good for the Eagles as a longtime Cowboys fan. It's a little hard for me to be happy for Philly, but then again, I know we've got a lot of people in our audience from Philadelphia. So people are very excited about their Eagles. I hope they don't murder anybody in the playoffs. I hope the fans don't, you know, riot. Because you Eagles fans, you are hardcore. You are a different breed. Throwing snowballs at Santa Claus. They'll never live that down. Anyway, I give you the mayor of Philly. Back to my rule that a lot of people are just not all that smart. A lot of people in positions of prominence aren't really as bright or as smart as we'd like to think they are. If you're the mayor of a big American city like Philadelphia, you'd know how to spell the word eagles, right? It's not a real tough word to spell. Let's listen to the mayor, Mayor Shirell, trying to lead a cheer for her team.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let me hear you all say, E-L-G-L-E-S, Eagles!
SPEAKER 15 :
E-L-G. How do you spell Eagles again? One more time, Christian. The mayor of Philadelphia.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let me hear you all say, E-L-G-F-E-S, Eagles.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's go, Elgis. Let's go, go, Elgis. Ma'am, that's not how you spell Eagles. But then again, maybe you don't have to be a good speller to be a mayor. E-L-G-S-E-S. Let's go! Let's go team! I mean, I hate to hear how she spells commanders. My gosh, it would be a crisis. All right, so the media is freaking out about the January 6th pardons and commutations. And that Scott Jennings nails it over on CNN. I mean, of course you've got Jamie Raskin. He's come up with a theory. Trump wants an army, a reserve army of insurrectionists. That's the reason he pardoned so many of them. Was it 1,500?
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1,600?
SPEAKER 15 :
This is hysterical. Check out Jamie Raskin on, where else, CNN.
SPEAKER 12 :
The question is, why are they being released? Are they being released as a reserve army of political foot soldiers to act on behalf of MAGA and Donald Trump? And I think that's what's so profoundly troubling to a majority of the American people who rejected the idea of freeing at least the violent criminals and the ones who are convicted of seditious conspiracy, which means conspiracy to overthrow the government.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ah, Jamie Raskin. He's the gift that just keeps on giving. All you can do is laugh at these clowns. They're such clowns. But, you know, Scott Jennings nailed it. Do we have the Scott Jennings clip that you guys played in the liner? I don't see it on the cut sheet. Because he's right. These people's lives were ruined. They did lose everything. They have been to prison. Every one of them. How long do you want them to be in prison? Tell me. I'm all ears. What's the proper punishment? What's the proper punishment? I mean, here's an exchange between Abby Phillips and Scott Jennings on CNN. And look, I get the criticism last week. J.D. Vance said, of course we shouldn't pardon sentences of people who committed acts of violence. And it appears that some of the people who were violent on that day got a commutation or a pardon. I guess. I don't know. I mean, I think it remains to be seen. But listen to this exchange on CNN between Abby Phillips, the CNN person, and the great Scott Jennings.
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Don't you think there's a difference between those two things? One of them was trying to overturn an election.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I mean, I'll answer.
SPEAKER 07 :
You don't think there's a difference between trying to overturn an election and violent social justice protests?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, social justice, okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'll give it to you, Scott. Let's say that they're violent. You don't think there's a difference between trying to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power and violent riots in the street of any kind, the ones in 1968, the ones in 2020?
SPEAKER 13 :
I think both groups of people were mad about something going on They wanted to change it. They took matters into their own hands that they should not have done. In both cases, you had people engaging in activities that they should not have engaged in. Now, our culture and our public discourse decided one group of people, social justice is good and these people were bad. But the reality is they had the same motivation.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, he's so right. Why in the world, Abby Phillips is suggesting, if you burn down a McDonald's or assault a cop because a black guy named George Floyd died, that's okay. But if you are upset about an election and you're in Washington, D.C., and you break a window, go to jail for 100 years. And Scott Jennings says one wrong doesn't justify the other. Here's Arthur Idalla, a friend of mine, a lawyer from New York City, also appearing on CNN. And, you know, he makes the same point. How do you justify the BLM riots and then express righteous indignation when Trump says, all right, enough is enough. These people have been in jail for years. Let them go.
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There were people... In protest. They were not riots. They were protests. And there were people who showed up at the protest and did bad behavior. But that was because a man was murdered unjustly. That doesn't give you the right to break into the Nike store.
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That doesn't give you the right to break into Tiffany's. How about you let me finish?
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, what a great point that what? Oh, well, a man was murdered. So there were people. See, see the mindset of the loony left. That's why they're upset. They're perfectly fine with white Trump supporters rotting in jail forever, for the rest of their lives, and they're perfectly fine with people of color who rioted over George Floyd. That's different to them. And Scott Jennings' point is, it's the same thing. You don't get to take matters into your own hands. You don't get to riot, whatever the reason. And the punishment should be equitable. The punishment should be the same. If you assault a cop, it shouldn't matter if you're doing it. Your motivation doesn't matter. You assaulted a cop. So if there's no punishment for assaulting a cop over George Floyd, then the punishment for the January Sixers has been quite enough. They've already been in jail for years. Let's see if you disagree. Let's find out. 800-655-MIKE. One open line. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Join us. You know, there's a cross that Mike Lindell of MyPillow wears around his neck. And for years, people have said, Mike, can we get that cross? And so I'm real proud to share with you that MyPillow is now offering the MyCross necklace. It's a beautiful sterling silver cross, onyx-styled black enamel with a protective clear coat, mother-of-pearl-styled translucent white enamel. They've got a men's size and a ladies' size. The MyCross necklace is now available for you at MyPillow.com. If you go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials and click on that box. You're going to get a huge discount. I mean, big-time discount. In fact, you're going to get, I think, $30 less of a price than what is available on the MyPillow site if you don't go to MySquare. So if you want a beautiful gift, if you want to remind yourself what matters, if you want the same cross, it's the same cross that Mike Lindell wears every day whenever you see him on TV, This cross is now available for you. And you're going to get a huge discount when you enter the promo code MikeG. So go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials, click on that box, and then find the MyCross. There's also all kinds of great items to get you the best night's sleep of your life. Just don't forget to enter the promo code MikeG so you'll save big. And you've got to go to that square. Go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials, click on that box, and then with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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Mike Gallagher.
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There's so much misinformation about January 6th and so many lies and so many distortions. And there's one person that millions turn to for honest, accurate reporting. Julie Kelly has been a contributor to American Greatness, has written for tons of publications. And she has covered January 6th like nobody else. And we thought it would be a great day to invite Julie Kelly to join us back on the Mike Gallagher Show. How have you been, Julie?
SPEAKER 10 :
Good, Mike. Thanks for having me on. I just want to let you know I'm not with American Greatness anymore, but people can find my work at Declassified with Julie Kelly, my Substack, and also Real Clear Investigations.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that's important. Declassified with Julie Kelly. People talk about Substack. I had somebody tell me a couple weeks ago, there's no more important contributor and participant in the Substack world than Julie Kelly. So thanks for letting us know. Declassified with Julie Kelly, right? Declassified.live?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. Thank you, Mike. Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
You bet. Thanks for the correction, Julie. I appreciate you so much. And look, let's start with, I asked a simple question and no one can, people are giving me lots of answers. What is the proper punishment for breaking a window at the Capitol? What is the proper punishment for assaulting a police officer if you do it out of frustration, as a caller tried to say a moment ago over George Floyd, or frustration over the outcome of an election. This whole thing is impossible to keep up with. Give me your take on where these defendants and these January Sixers are now, and give us a 35,000-foot view of the way this whole process has gone with President Trump's clemency for 1,500 of them.
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So, Mike, it's really important to emphasize that this is not how clashes with police in the nation's capital or even vandalism is handled in Washington, D.C. Breaking a window at the Capitol or breaking a window on government property is a misdemeanor in Washington, especially if it results in less than $1,000 and you get charged locally and usually sort of a slap on the wrist. You're not sent to federal prison for years. Assaults on police officers also always handled by the superior court in Washington, which is the local court, not the federal courthouse. Same with these misdemeanors. You know, Mike, early on, the chief judge, Beryl Howell, said she wasn't sure how to deal with the most common misdemeanor, which is parading at the Capitol. She said, this is a petty offense, a class B misdemeanor. We never handle these. But nonetheless, went ahead forward, handling them, refusing to dismiss that count and sending people to prison on that. So if you get in a scuffle with a police officer in the course of a political demonstration in Washington and you shove a police officer, you're screaming at a police officer, you grab his baton or his riot shield, yes, that should definitely result in some sort of punishment. But it's never handled this way. You don't end up in a federal prison for years. is a veteran who is a former law enforcement official with a clean criminal record like Thomas Webster, who got into a scuffle with police because that officer, D.C. Metro, was shoving a woman down the stairs outside of the Capitol, not even inside. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison. There is no comparison how the court system and the DOJ has handled J6 protesters, not only in Washington, across the country, Mike. That's why it was such a courageous and compassionate move by the president to pardon everyone, because he recognized how unfair these trials were, the proceedings from the very beginning, and that these people finally deserve justice and to be made whole. And that's exactly what the president did on Monday.
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Do you agree with Axios' reporting that Trump, his sweeping pardons for the 1500 January Sixers, were kind of a last-minute, rip-the-bandage-off decision to try to move past the issue quickly? In fact, behind the scenes, according to a source to Axios, President Trump kind of said, look, we're going case by case. The team wrestled with the issue, and Trump finally said, blanket, release them all. Do you think that's accurate reporting?
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I do. And Mike, I did speak with the president last week for about 40 minutes as he was trying to get some granular grasp on exactly what the latest was with the J6 prosecution. He understands how unfair, like I said, he's been meeting with these families for over two years. He's heard their horror stories. He's met with the children of defendants and how this has destroyed their lives. And so he feels very personally about it. And so, yes, rip the Band-Aid off Because why continue this painful process? Put it in the lap of Attorney General Pam Bondi. This was the right thing to do. And now he's getting pushback from media, even conservative media, shamefully the Wall Street Journal, with a really egregious editorial today regurgitating talking points from the Department of Justice, talking about how he shouldn't have pardoned these individuals. So he is getting pushback. He was getting resistance to this, but he did the right thing. And this also is completely covered up Joe Biden's last minute pardons, right? So the media is not asking these Republican senators about Joe Biden pardoning the entire J6 committee, the members and the staffers and the four lying, crying police officers, not asking about pardoning his brother and sister-in-law members of his family. They're only worried about someone who is pardoned. for getting in a fight with a police officer four years ago. Our media is an absolute disgrace. The conservative media also is a disgrace. And these Republican senators speaking out against it as well. They have no idea what they're talking about.
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We're visiting with the lady that I believe is the most important voice in coverage of this January 6th episode, Julie Kelly. Get her on Substack, declassified with Julie Kelly. President Trump has got a calculation here that this will be sort of a short-lived situation. you know, escapade. I think that calculation is correct. People aren't obsessed with it. But nonetheless, his critics are going to use this as a tool, as a weapon. They're going to try to bludgeon him with this over and over again. But I think even they kind of dry up and go away, don't they?
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Well, I think they do. And I think these Republican senators who are speaking out about this, Thomas Tildes, for example, who's up for reelection next year, Lisa Murkowski, of course, always can depend on her. for criticizing the president, even people like Mike Rounds. Look, what's really shameful to hear these Republican senators is that this has happened to their own constituents. They have sat in silence while this DOJ, Joe Biden's DOJ and Chris Wray's FBI has gone on this crusade of terror across the country, mostly nonviolent misdemeanor offenses. And they've said nothing until now. And now they're worried about people being unfairly charged and prosecuted with assaulting police officers when they couldn't even tell you one case, except the talking points that the former DOJ spinmeisters are sending out. Really shameful that they have allowed this to go on and now criticizing them. So they will be hopefully held accountable by their own voters. But Mike, also the entire J6 narrative unraveling. I think there will be a separate investigation into January 6th. We will finally get answers as to how many FBI informants and undercover employees from other law enforcement agencies were involved? What happened to the pipe bomber? Who was that person? And what happened to all the missing Secret Service texts that were deleted after January 6th that were never recovered? Why were they purged? Why were they never recovered? And what did they say about what was happening leading up to January 6th and on that day?
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, we believe, we used to believe in the concept the punishment needs to fit the crime. And, of course, that went right out the window with all the hysteria because, of course, the left and the Democrats used January 6th as a political weapon. They politicized the whole thing. And, thankfully, common sense prevails. And, look, Julie Kelly, you're a national treasure. I'm so grateful to you for your work. Always great. I know how busy you are, and I want to thank you. I hope everybody follows you on Substack. Declassified with Julie Kelly. I say this to all the guests I like, but I sure mean it with you in particular, right out of the Bible. Julie, keep fighting the good fight. Thanks, Julie. Thanks, Mike. Will do. More coming. What a great, great voice for this, and we're lucky to have her. Julie Kelly, here on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day Mike visits with Mark Davis. Morning host on 660 AM The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's M&M experience.
SPEAKER 16 :
And God bless you, my friend. How you doing? How's it working out for you? 44 hours in? You doing okay? Everything good?
SPEAKER 15 :
Look, when I watched President Trump tell Peter Alexander from NBC, stop interrupting me, I thought, we're so back. And Peter Alexander said, you're right. I apologize, sir. I loved it. Just incredible. It's hard to believe that we're back, but we are back in a major way. And, gosh, he is, as promised, shock and awe. I mean, it's a fire hose of, you know, DEI firings.
SPEAKER 16 :
Birthright citizenship, gone. Green New Deal, gone.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hostages coming home. Lake and Riley Act passed. I mean, Marco Rubio, I'm a little nervous. Ninety nine to nothing. Whoa. I mean, that was great. But on the other hand, what are the why do the Democrats like him? Makes me nervous. Either.
SPEAKER 16 :
OK, listen, that's a natural that's a natural conservative instinct. It's a natural talk radio instinct. Wait a minute. If a Democrat thinks it's OK, it must be terrible, which, by the way, often works. I think this, though, is that they just have. They have no arrow in their quiver. It's not Pete Hegseth who has a couple of things you can go after. It's not RFK Jr.
SPEAKER 14 :
who has a couple of things you can go after. It's just so obvious.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's talk about Pete Hegseth for a moment. So NBC runs with a hit piece yesterday. I saw it. He was allegedly abusive towards his second wife. They go to the wife and she said, nope, not true. Your information is wrong. No, he wasn't. But there's a sister-in-law who's got an ax to grind. And so, you know, look, anybody who's been through divorce and it is a tough, awful thing for everybody involved, there can be awful things that are said during a contentious divorce. And that's what this seems to be. But if the wife is not willing to say there was anything, why not believe her? Oh, no, that doesn't slow NBC down. So they do the hit piece. Oh, the sister-in-law. And you know what the sister-in-law said? Did you see her quote? Her line was, I was assured that if I brought this forward, senators who are on the fence about confirming him will vote against him.
SPEAKER 16 :
So it's about her. She's making it about her.
SPEAKER 15 :
Mark, that was exactly what she said. I was assured that if I tell my story, the ones on the fence will vote against him. It is all about her pound of flesh. Oh. And it's sickening. And I look, I'm now I'm real invested in hoping that he gets in. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just because so much of it is because these people are inherently good, inherently valuable, real change agents for the better. And but the other part is just listen, I call it what you want. Own the libs, accountability, reckoning. I am loving it, loving it, loving it. OK, we got two little micro stories of sort of Trump 2.0 little snapshots. I'm going to give you the choice of which one to do first. We may have slightly different takes. I don't know. Do you want to do the liberal bakery in Flower Mound or the so-called prayer service? Which one you want to do first?
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's talk about the prayer service.
SPEAKER 16 :
President Trump tore into this. I just played the Bishop Marianne Booty.
SPEAKER 15 :
And Trump ripped into her, of course, on Truth Social. He said the so-called bishop who spoke at the prayer service was a radical left hardline Trump hater, and all of that is true. But her message – and I'm going to get in trouble on this because it reminds me of the time when a Broadway cast – lectured Mike Pence from the stage. It's the same exact... For me, it's the same exact story. And I got in trouble back then, too, because I wasn't really bothered by that exchange. And let me tell you why. When the cast members, when Mike Pence brought his daughters and whatever to see a show, and this was right after the election... And they gave him the same kind of lecture. We're afraid. Please be mindful of us. Blah, blah, blah, blah. First of all, he stood there and listened to every word. He did not walk out like he could have because it was at the curtain call. It would have been real easy for him to leave. He listened to every word. And then he turned to his daughter and famously said, this is what democracy sounds like. And I thought that is such a magnificent moment. Whatever you think of Mike Pence, the fact that he acknowledged dissent and recognized that there are people in the country who don't like our agenda. Just like we don't like their agenda, they don't like ours. And we shouldn't be afraid to hear them. And Trump isn't afraid of dissent. That's why he stands in a press room and loves to go toe-to-toe with all of them. So this bishop, while you could argue all day long, and I get it, it was inappropriate to do it in church. How was she not vetted? But her message at a church pulpit was, Mr. President, please have mercy and compassion. And you know something, Mark, that's nothing wrong with there's nothing wrong with that. And Trump's a big boy and he can take it.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is enormously right. You need me so desperately right now, as you did when you covered for this ridiculous cast lecturing Mike Pence from a Broadway stage. First of all, wrapping yourself in prayer in a pulpit is vastly different. But let's return to how horribly wrong you were in that Broadway example where they they excuse me, bitched at Mike Pence. Did he gracefully take it? This is back when we all liked Mike Pence. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. And you're right. He turned a negative into a positive. That should absolutely never have happened. If you want to go out the back theater door and talk about what a dog you think Mike Pence is, knock yourself out. To do that was unbelievably rude and a perversion of free speech. Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean you should. Ditto, especially five. times over on steroids with this bishop who chose to wrap herself in the word of God while lecturing the president and vice president. Of course, we should all be compassionate, Mike. Of course, we should all behave in scriptural, brotherly, sisterly ways. Of course, you're a thousand percent right. But the supposition of this political screed from this bishop From this bishop was that you guys, your positions are bad. Your positions are evil. You are evil because she believes that the only way to be right and the only way to be moral is to think there are 47 genders and to let every single human being with a pulse across the border. Screw her. It was terrible. And you need to open your eyes to that a little bit.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you're not going to try to force me to feel the way you do about something, but I'm not going to argue with you. I totally understand completely your position.
SPEAKER 14 :
I understand you, too.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I know I'm swimming upstream on this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for it, but it's how I feel. First of all, and for the record, and again, don't take this as an argument, you're interpreting what she said. She didn't say any of the things you said she said. She did not say any of the things you said she said.
SPEAKER 16 :
Mike, don't be this dumb. A member of the clergy talking about, oh, the LGBTQ people, they are scared to death. Of what? Of you, Mr. Trump. Of you, Mr. Vance. And giving us this lecture of how wonderful all the illegals are. That's an attack on them. Come on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Mark, what she said was, I ask you to have mercy on those who are in fear, and there's nothing wrong with that.
SPEAKER 16 :
It presumes that their conservatism is something from which people deserve mercy. You're presuming that.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're darn right I am. And make no mistake, you're completely correct. I know exactly who she is. She has been on record as bashing him before. Right. She is a far left. And incidentally, there's an interesting, I think, issue about the Episcopal Church and what it is. You know, that's that's a whole different. And look, you could say that about Methodist churches, too. So there's that's another issue altogether. Again, I'm not I'm not even going to disagree with you, Mark. I respect.
SPEAKER 16 :
Let's flip the script. Let's flip the screens. Here's one where you might be a little more red meat than me. And I described this in the first half as well. The ultra-liberal Hive Bakery and Flour Man. They went off on MAGA people in their community. So apparently what was happening is that they were getting a bunch of calls ordering cakes. Hey, will you guys do a MAGA cake? And you know what the source material is of this. It's all the bakers that got calls from people to do transgender reveals and stuff. and gay weddings that they didn't want to do. And did they have a First Amendment right to refuse that business? I believe they did. You believe they did. The court system is generally believe they did. So I think this bakery kind of got trolled by a lot of people who said, hey, make me 37 MAGA cakes. And people had no intention of coming by. They just wanted to put their shiv in the ribs of the liberal bakery. That having been said, this speaking of a screed, here's the lady who owns the bakery who writes as follows. And I'll hand it to you, Mike Gallagher. I've received multiple phone calls, emails, and DMs from MAGA and our community asking us to make Trump cakes. It's always the response we get when we post liberal baked goods. It's never surprising. They don't really want to order anything. It's just about harassment. All these bogus inquiries came this week, but therefore we denied all the requests. Not because it's Trumpy-esque they want made, but because we're booked up for weeks. Custom work requires notice. They love to cry about it, pretend they've been denied because we discriminate. It's a lie. They love to tell people we charge higher prices for Trump stuff. That's a lie. They love to whine and complain and harass and taunt and belittle and fabricate and pollute everything they touch. That's who these people are. And we're so thankful they never visit Hive Bakery. even though the criminal they voted for one, they still come for us like children, the schoolyard insults. It's never enough. They're bullies. The people who reside here in this town are garbage. Feel free to sift through the comments on your own. You'll see them at the end of the day. We're just a booked up bakery hustling to be the best around. And these people aren't fit to lick our spoons. Wow. So last thing is I hand it to you. Uh, it, I think if you take the high ground, she could have scored more points, but she hates them as much as some of the ragtag people hate her. So this was just so unnecessary. Let me offer it up to you.
SPEAKER 15 :
What's your thought on the bakery? I'm confused by it, to be honest with you, and I don't think we have any disagreement. This lady, who apparently owns a bakery in Flower Mound, says that the people who live in Flower Mound are garbage. Now, explain that to me. You're in business to sell a product.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, the people, the specific people who have come after her and who have been taunting her. Well, is that what she means? I mean, I didn't get that. These people. She's been talking about the people who have been giving them online. Read that sentence again if you don't mind. Even though they still come at us like children with schoolyard insults. Read the line about the people who are garbage. These people. People she just referred to. These people who reside here in this town are absolute garbage. Because obviously, plenty of libs in Flower Mound Visitor, and she loves them.
SPEAKER 15 :
It just strikes me as such a peculiarity to own something. You're in the customer service business, and you want to spit all over probably more than half of the community. You know, you only want to serve... cupcakes to a fraction, because it's flour-mounted. This is not exactly Berkeley. And so I just don't get it. I wonder, and I always wonder about this, and I'm sure they're getting, just like the Bishop is getting enormous pushback, I guarantee you this bakery is getting enormous pushback right now. And I don't know why they opt to do, why anybody would opt to do this.
SPEAKER 16 :
Does she have the right not to make a MAGA cake? No. Yeah, absolutely. She doesn't want to make a mock. If God help us, Kamala had one. Could you would we be speaking up in favor of a conservative bakery saying, you know, we just we just.
SPEAKER 15 :
But it's not a right. It's not a rights issue. It's why would you intentionally alienate a community? Why do you do that? I mean, because is the flack worth it? I guarantee you she's having a bad day right now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Guaranteed. Is she? Because I think I think the answer to your to your question is I think they've they've occupied a lane. They have a niche that they are the lib Biden loving, Beto loving, rainbow flag loving bakery. And yeah, but nobody wants a bunch of that.
SPEAKER 15 :
But nobody wants a bunch of angry residents blowing up your social media site and maybe calling your shop and all that.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a great point because they can be that political bakery without being so mean about it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Keep your head down and don't be so nasty. And just because people are nasty to you, then you're going to turn around and say, well, I'll show them.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you. Exactly right.
SPEAKER 15 :
And there might be somebody in Flower Mound who happens to be a Trump supporter who likes the bakery. But by the way, they'll never darken their door. Exactly right. Ever.
SPEAKER 14 :
And a whole bunch of people will.
SPEAKER 15 :
And so, you know, look, like you always say, let the free market prevail. You get to go to whatever bakery. And I wish we had more time. I know we're almost out. But gosh, these January 6th pardons, I've got a simple, very plain question. How many years should somebody go to jail for assault? 20? And then if you're going to say 20, then go talk about the cops who were assaulted after George Floyd.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's it. And that's Trump's point. Trump's point is, look, you know, I'm sure Trump's attitude is, I don't like people fighting cops or breaking windows. But these people have already been in jail for years. How many more years are you going to live? What about the guy that had the website, the dark website? He pardoned that guy. Do you know much about this story, Ross Ulbrecht? That guy had two life sentences. Mm-hmm. What, for a website that people misused? I know. Come on. And a lot of people are saying, praise God. So, you know, again, it's going to be... But how about... I got chills. We've all had cancer in our life. Lord knows I've had loved ones that have been down that road, you know, too many times to think about. And there was Larry Ellison from Oracle and Trump on a podium yesterday talking about how AI can be successfully implemented to catch... cancer early and save maybe millions of lives. AI scares me, but AI used the right way can be just an absolute godsend. And now here's Trump investing in this huge AI infrastructure that could save lives by blood tests that AI can show early signs of cancer. What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive. A golden age, my friend. It is. So let me go get my licks and let me get my head taken off.
SPEAKER 16 :
Don't even bring this up on your own show. I'm doing coffee cake recipes in my home today.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's all I'm doing. I'm avoiding it like the plague.
SPEAKER 14 :
I love you. I'm going to be safe.
SPEAKER 17 :
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In this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable, the hosts dive into the world of sports, with a discussion on the recent NFL outcomes and the impact on fans. They then shift focus to Donald Trump's remarkable return to the presidency, a topic that sparks intense debate and reflections on American politics. The hosts engage in a spirited debate about Trump's consequential role in history, comparing and contrasting his actions with those of the current administration. Additionally, the episode sheds light on the importance of the Preborn organization in the pro-life movement, especially now that Roe v. Wade has been overturned. They highlight the significance of ultrasound images in saving babies' lives and encourage listeners to support this cause. The podcasters also share personal anecdotes about the effectiveness of SunPower LED light therapy, promoting wellness and relief from pain in an innovative way. Finally, the conversation takes a critical turn as they analyze some of the controversial pardons made by Trump, including J6 protesters and the impact of such decisions on the justice system. With differing opinions and a deep understanding of current events, the hosts provide a comprehensive view of the complexities of today's political landscape.
SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome. Another episode of the National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host today, John Rush from Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason. Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan. The Bob Duco Show and Neil Boron. From Buffalo, New York, Neil Boron live. And before we get going, Bob, sorry your Lions lost. Neil, you have to beat the Chiefs.
SPEAKER 04 :
Pray we beat the Chiefs.
SPEAKER 03 :
How could this happen?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 03 :
How could this happen?
SPEAKER 04 :
So disappointing. I really wanted the Lions in the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER 01 :
Sorry, Bob. I was rooting for you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, man. Well, I'll tell you what, though. My Ohio State Buckeyes did win the national championship. Yes, they did. So there is that. I was born and raised.
SPEAKER 01 :
Seriously, though, Neil, you got to get your bills rolling because, you know, I mean, there isn't hardly a person in Denver unless they're a Chiefs fan that likes the Chiefs.
SPEAKER 04 :
There was a picture, somebody sent out a picture of the continental U.S., and it had a huge Bills logo over it, and it said, this is, you know, who wants the Bills to win next week? And then the only place was in Kansas City. There's a Kansas City tiny little logo over the city of Kansas City. That was it. It's like, we're all done with the Chiefs. Please, somebody beat the Chiefs.
SPEAKER 01 :
And the downside is that probably helps them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you know, who knows?
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, because they're the hated underdog that no one wants to win, and, you know, there's a motivator there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I don't know if they need motivation other than to, you know, continue paying off the referees.
SPEAKER 01 :
They have the refs on their side.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly. I don't know what that's about, but, yeah, we need a change.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know what, Neil? I got to tell you, if the Bills win the Super Bowl, here's what I would love for it to be. I'd love for them to win on a last-second long field goal that's just inside the right upright position. Meanwhile... And Buffalo fans know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, really, any sports fans do. Meanwhile, 43%... Poor Scott Norwood would sit there and watch a TV going, oh, that's how it's supposed to be done. Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
But 43% of Buffalo citizens die of heart attacks while the ball is in the air. Let's just say that.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, my word.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, this is true.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's hilarious. All right, guys, got a lot to talk about. There's no way we're going to get to most of what I've even got down here today, given everything that's happened over the last couple of days. For those of you that... I guess maybe live under a rock. Yes, Donald Trump is now president of the United States as of Monday at noon.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's unbelievable, and can I just comment that I started my program the other day saying how stunned I was that we were having this conversation, because whether you like Donald Trump or not, anybody looking back four years ago, on January 20th, 2021, it was two weeks after the January 6th events, Biden was being sworn in. Trump had already been impeached twice, not removed from office, but impeached by the House. What was coming was for indictments to assassination attempts. The entire mainstream media, the whole left progressive establishment of the world against Donald Trump. Who would have ever believed he'd be sworn into office four years later? It was stunning.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I agree, Neil. I agree. Bob, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 03 :
It really was. Well, and of course, my show starts at noon Eastern time every day. And so it's like, oh, boy, you know, the timing of the swearing in. So, of course, I just went to live feed to open up the show. But no, Neil, you're absolutely right. I mean, I know his most famous book was Art of the Deal. But if I remember right, I think Trump wrote a book back when called Art of the Comeback. For some reason, you know, maybe it was somebody else about him, but this was a remarkable political comeback. A lot of people had declared that Trump was damaged goods and it wasn't going to he had no political future left. And so for him to actually come back and to reclaim the presidency and to win strongly as he did and to be reshaping. really, not just the Republican Party, but the United States of America. Neil, like you said, whether you like Donald Trump or hate Donald Trump, either way, I don't think anyone can deny the consequential role that he has in history, even left-wing Politico. I mean, Politico is about as liberal left-wing as it gets in mainstream media, okay? Even the editor-in-chief of Politico, wrote a piece, and he hates Donald Trump, okay? But he said, you know what, there's no denying the consequential place in history that Donald Trump has earned. And he will go down in history as a larger-than-life historical figure, even though I totally agree with everything that he does and stands for and blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it is true. I want to make another comment about it, because I do think, obviously, Donald Trump is a unique individual, incredibly polarizing. You love him or you hate him. And he's at the center of this whole equation we're talking about right now. But also, I mean, I don't know if you guys have ever changed an electrical plug while it's hot and made the mistake of, you know, just touching the wrong thing.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, that feeling.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And then does that explode, you know, the spark? I mean, it's a major deal. You can, like, weld your screwdriver to the outlet if you're not careful, you know. Anyway. I think it's a combination of Trump plus what liberals and progressives have been trying to shove down the throat of the American people for far too long. And what you're seeing is that the heart of common sense America – it's interesting that term was used – But that that connected with with what Donald Trump was willing to stand up and fight for. And the two of them combined made it impossible to beat this guy, that he was going to come back. And then the other thing is that a lot of commentators said this is one of the greatest political comeback. OK, name a greater one. Anybody got any example of a greater political comeback? And I just think it was the convergence. of Trump's willingness to have a backbone and say what all these people feel about what's happened to our country. And they want it back. They want the borders closed. They don't want other people telling us how to raise our kids. And I think the combination of the two just made it impossible for anybody to beat him in this election.
SPEAKER 01 :
You're right, and they're tired of all of the wokeness. We'll get into some of that today. Real quick, though, Bob, and we were talking about some of this even with Neil not with us prior to coming on and doing this recording this morning, but anniversary of Roe v. Wade today, there's some questions out there as to, you know, Donald Trump, will he pardon some particular individuals involved in, you know, prayer vigil and things like that, you know, around abortion clinics and so on. And given all of that, I think it's a great segue to talk about, you know, that along with preborn at the same time.
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Because you mentioned Roe v. Wade. 52 years ago was the anniversary, obviously, of that horrendous decision. Four years ago today, I was barely on the road to recovery. I had just begun recovering from about a month-long bout with COVID that took me from a blood oxygen saturation that's normally around 99 or 100 to the low 80s. And when I would get up and just move across the room, it would drop into the 70s. I mean, it was critically low. I called the rescue paramedic three times and was advised by them not to go to the hospital because I'd sit in the lobby or in the hallway. No one was going to do anything. So I was in a desperate place. I needed to be able to breathe. And for about a month, I wasn't able to breathe. Well, my son happened to mention that on the air one day, asking people to pray for me. Tom Kerber of Kerber USA, the makers of light therapy at SunPower LED, heard that and said, I've got an idea. You need to try what light therapy can do for you. And essentially, it's just taking the light God himself created that penetrates the human body, gets to the deep parts of the cell, excites the cell to do what the cell was created to do, and that's to heal the human body. And I had just begun to recover and it only took about 10 days for me to be completely back to normal. Completely back to normal. It was unreal what light therapy was able to do for me. So whether it's pain or swelling in your body or you need to promote healing in some fashion, you need to check out light therapy from SunPowerLED and you can find it at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on the SunPowerLED button and of course we'll have more to say about it in the moments ahead. John?
SPEAKER 01 :
Appreciate that, Neil. Okay, guys, before we get going here, let's talk about even prior to inauguration, literally, as I think Donald Trump was on his way, Joe Biden is pardoning additional individuals in his own family. Keep in mind, he had pardoned Fauci, Liz Cheney, and some others that were on the J6 committee earlier. And then, of course, he pardoned some of his own family members i mean right my point with all of this is there's going to be some people will get into the j6 prisoners and hostages that trump has pardoned which by the way he's going to get criticized for by the same people that think it's okay for biden to do what he did
SPEAKER 03 :
I know.
SPEAKER 01 :
Bob, I'll throw it to you first.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. You know what? It is amazing. First of all, we've got to remember something about the J6 pardons and commutations because most of the mainstream press is not telling you the full story here. OK, every single one of them. It's right and appropriate to commute sentences and pardon them. The people that had their sentences commuted were the most violent of the violent people on January 6th. And by the way, they deserve to go to jail because these are the ones that actually assaulted police officers. Now, they didn't kill anybody. They didn't shoot anybody. They didn't point a gun at anybody. They didn't set a single fire. OK, but if you push or knock down a police officer, I believe that you should go to prison. However, I don't believe that you should get three times what your average rapist in America gets because your average rapist gets seven years and many rapists get only one or two years. So it's not right to give these people. 18-year, 20-year, 22-year sentences, that's disproportionate punishment. Your average drug dealer gets 2.4 years in America. You don't deserve five to 10 times what a drug dealer gets when you assault a police officer. You deserve jail, but not that much. So that's why Trump was right to commute their sentences. The overwhelming majority of everybody else there did not lay a finger on anybody, okay? They didn't touch anybody. They engaged in zero violence. The overwhelming majority, those 1,200 or so people, walked into the Capitol without laying a finger on a person, all right? So for that, yes, I say pardon those people. And for the ones who engaged in actual violence, non-lethal violence, still wrong, still punishable, they've been in prison three or four years already. That's plenty of time, time to let him out of prison.
SPEAKER 01 :
Agreed. And again, for all of you listening, we've talked about some of these things in depth in the past. And my whole point with this is we've got Biden, in my opinion, you talk about Fauci, number one, being pardoned, and you talk about the crimes against humanity and the things that he literally did in deceiving the president at that time and others and literally deceiving the American public and profiting off of all of that. I mean, the reality, Bob, is If there's anybody that should be behind bars, it ought to be that guy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, incredible. I know. And by the way, can I just say regarding Joe Biden and his last minute pardons, does anybody remember back in December of 2020, after Joe Biden was pretty much, you know, going to be the new president and Donald Trump was on his way out, you had ABC and NBC and CBS and CNN and all of them, Washington Post and many others, they were interviewing Democrats talking about what if, Donald Trump tries to do preemptive pardons to the people in his inner circle, including his own family. And you had Democrats and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and everybody else. That would be so horrible. That's the kind of thing that he would do. Even Joe Biden himself on CNN was asked about this and said, yeah, that's something you won't see happening in my administration. All right. Well, guess what? Trump didn't do what the left and the media and the Democrats were accusing him of planning on doing. Joe Biden actually really did do that in real life. And all the press and the Democrats can focus on is Donald Trump letting people out of prison that have already spent three or four years in prison for something that in any other world would be maybe a 30 day sentence, possibly six months.
SPEAKER 01 :
Neil, your thoughts on this?
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, just on that one point, the current law in the District of Columbia is that a misdemeanor offense for assaulting a police officer is up to six months in jail, period. Now, serious offense like where you cause bodily harm, 10 years maximum. But you're talking about 18 and 20 year sentences.
SPEAKER 01 :
And one of those guys had double life sentences, by the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, okay. So, I mean, the point is excessive sentencing of these individuals and selective prosecution going after these people as, you know, political prisoners, basically, simply because they disagreed with what the Biden administration was all about and what was happening in D.C. at the time and, you know, what they thought was happening with regard to the election. Anyway, the point is, pardons are appropriate for virtually all of them. I agree completely. commuting sentences for those that participated in violent crime. But there needs to be some kind of distinction. And, Bob, I do think that there's going to be criticism of Trump regarding this simply because, well, you know, one of the things and it will get to the his executive orders later. But, you know, he showed great respect for members of the military who lost their jobs as a result of not taking the covid vaccine. And there was like an honor associated with that. And when the first time I heard it, I was like, wow. he's going to really curry some favor with military families for taking care of these individuals. I was thrilled to hear it. But on the other hand, it leaves open the question. I'm not saying he's doing this on purpose, but it leaves open the question. Does he disrespect law enforcement? I don't think he does, but I do think he's going to get pushback and criticism for it. Either way, I do think because of all that's happened with these pardons, I mean, what if Joe Biden, seriously, what if he had said, I want to pardon all registered Democrats personally, for any crimes he may have committed in the past or in the future. Like, can he do that? How far can you go with this pardon thing? And I do think all of this is going to cause some careful reflection on how these things are carried out in the future and if there's any limitation whatsoever that can be put on them. I don't think there is, but I do think it's raising questions on both sides of the political aisle watching all of this unfold. However, I think Trump was completely justified in handling this J6 thing the way that he did given the unjust attack on these individuals and the sentencing that followed. I think something needed to be done and I'm in favor of it.
SPEAKER 01 :
By the way, I agree with that. Again, anybody that's followed us on either any of our programs or on this particular podcast, the roundtable here, you guys know our feelings on all of that and what we would have done on that particular day and the fact that we didn't condone any of this behavior And I've said numerous times, guys, had I been there that day and any of that would have started to happen, would I have gotten absorbed in all of that and entered the Capitol? No, I'll just be straight up honest. No, I would not have done that. I think it was a very black mark on the conservatives in the country and those folks that did that. I wish they hadn't. And I know they probably would disagree with me and we could probably have a debate. on that with some of those individuals, and I understand where they're coming from, you know, and I understand their plight that day, but I think there's better ways to handle things, and that's how I would have looked at it on that particular day. But given all of that, do I think Donald Trump is correct in what he's doing? Absolutely. Now, the question, though, Bob, isn't this where we kind of started talking about, you know, pre-born just a few minutes ago, is there some other folks that most likely need a pardon as well? And, you know, is Donald Trump sliding them? Is he waiting for the right timing of things, what are your thoughts there when it comes to some additional pardons that probably need to be coming out of this administration? Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
I definitely have a strong thought about that. And by the way, let me just say before I even get to the pro-lifers, because that's a very important part of this, too. One of the things that Trump is being hammered for by the left also regarding J6 is that he is dismissing the cases of pardoning and dismissing the cases of about 450 people from January 6th who have not even been brought to trial yet. All right. Just dismissing those cases and through pardons of them. One of those examples, and I've talked about this on the podcast before, one of those examples is that 67-year-old pastor. You had a 67-year-old pastor and his medical doctor wife. These are senior citizens. They were on January 6th in the peaceful Trump rally watching him speak. Then they walked with the crowd peacefully down to the Capitol for the already pre-approved, pre-permitted peaceful protest outside the Capitol. And so they walked down there. Once they got down there, the rioting was over. The Capitol doors were open. Police had moved the barricades and people were walking into the Capitol, moseying on in, even chatting with police. And so this pastor and his wife thought they were allowed to walk in the Capitol, right? So they did. They walked in the Capitol. All right. They were even the surveillance camera shows them speaking to police. OK, they're just thinking they're fine. Twelve minutes inside. Twelve minutes. Another police officer came out, says, hey, everybody needs to leave. The pastor and his wife said, oh, OK. And they turned around and left. That's it. That's it. Well, Joe Biden's Department of Justice spent three and a half years hunting this pastor down, finally found him several months ago. and had him and his wife arrested by the FBI. The FBI showed up at their house at 6 a.m., got him out of bed pounding on the door. When the pastor answered the door, he had several guns pointed at his head. As they got the wife out of bed, they not only handcuffed both of them, they leg shackled both of them and made them do a perp walk down their driveway, down the sidewalk, a couple of houses away to a waiting van they had to get into. humiliated in front of their neighbors. This is a 67-year-old pastor and his medical doctor wife. That's how the Department of Justice, the weaponization of the government, treated these people. And him and his wife are still awaiting trial. So that's one of the examples of Donald Trump saying, no, they are not going to trial. They are pardoned. So I got to make sure and let people know just how radical the Biden administration has been on this. To the pro-lifers, You have 21 pro-lifers who have been arrested by Joe Biden's FBI, okay, and put on trial and sent to prison, including a 75-year-old grandmother that got two years in prison. Why? Because outside of an abortion clinic door in an office building, they were sitting in the hallway. Now, in all fairness, they were trespassing because they were inside the bubble zone. Okay, fine. They didn't lay a finger on anybody. They were sitting on the floor praying and singing praise songs, all right? And Joe Biden's Department of Justice decided to charge him with Federal Face Act violations and had them put on trial and thrown in prison. Those people need to be pardoned, absolutely, especially when pro-abortion people got away with committing all kinds of crimes, like protesting outside the homes of conservative Supreme Court justices, you know? But anyway, we're- Firebombing pro-life clinics. I know, I know. And so I'm speculating that Trump is maybe waiting until today, Wednesday, the Roe v. Wade anniversary, or maybe Friday, the big March for Life rally, to make a big announcement of this. I'd be very shocked if he lets this weekend come and go and completely forgets about them. I can't imagine that.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
Again, guys, appreciate it. We've got a lot more to cover today for those of you listening. Number one, appreciate what you do each week in listening to us. We get lots of feedback on it. We get lots of ratings, by the way, on the podcast itself, five-star reviews and so on, which we greatly, greatly appreciate. Appreciate it, and I know I say it a lot when I'm hosting, but if you guys have any topics you would like to see us cover, you're always more than welcome to send an email out to any one of us, and we'll do our best to try to put those topics in. We've got a lot more to cover. We're going to do some more inauguration recaps, some of the executive orders that Trump... has already done might get into a few things more including Trump demanding an apology from the bishop by the way who asked him to have mercy on LGBTQ plus people and migrants so folks we'll get into some of that here in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable you've been listening to myself Bob Duco Neil Boron we'll be right back second half of the National Crawford Roundtable is next this is a Crawford Media Group production Welcome back. Second half, National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host, John Rush from Denver, Colorado. My show, Rush to Reason, Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan, The Bob Duco Show, and Neil Boron from Buffalo, New York, The Neil Boron Live. Okay, so our Neil Boron Live show. So guys, as I kind of went through that last little segment there as we went into the break, Trump demanding an apology from the bishop. And if anybody hasn't seen that little clip on what that particular bishop did during that prayer service, number one, And, you know, I know we're not supposed to point fingers and do things along those lines, but this, in my opinion, is not what should have happened in that particular setting. This particular lady is completely out of line. Is she doing God's work? No, she's doing her own work. I mean, I could go into a tirade of things that are really wrong in what this particular bishop did. But, you know, Bob, since you watched it, Neil, you can go second. But, Bob, since you watched it like I did, what are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, man, it makes my eye twitch. It made me cringe. I know. Her name is Marianne Edgar Booty. She's the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington. She's a liberal left-wing Trump hater. By the way, she was on ABC News back in 2020 telling them, quote, we need to replace President Trump. OK, so she is an anti-Trumper. Right. And this is supposed to be The National Prayer Service, okay, for a new president, it's supposed to be focused on that. And there's President Trump and Melania and J.D. Vance and Usha, the four of them sitting in the front row of the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C. And what does she decide to do from up there at the lectern? She decides to look down at Trump and start lecturing him with political talking points in ways that— He's not able to stand up and go, hey, wait a minute, let me rebut what you're saying. Let me give you equal time. No, he just sat there. Him and J.D. Vance looked at each other, and then Trump just shook his head, rolled his eyes, and was like, you've got to be kidding me, okay? But no, she looks down and says, let me make one final plea, Mr. President. In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared right now. There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democrat, Republican, and independent families, some of whom fear for their lives. Then she goes to immigration. The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. They pay taxes and are good neighbors. I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you will help those who are fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands and find compassion and welcome here. And it's like, oh, come on. So, you know what? Is she going to lock her door tonight? All right. Or is she is she going to try to keep people out of her house that are not invited to come in? OK, this is just so absurd. The Vatican is surrounded by a 40 foot wall all the way around it. OK, to to keep it anyway. Trump responded. He posted, quote, And you know something? He's absolutely right. That is inappropriate either way. If a conservative Republican bishop was standing there at the National Cathedral, National Prayer Service, and chose to slam some Democrat president with a bunch of right-wing talking points, I think all three of us, John, would say that's inappropriate. So where's the left's criticism here?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. Wrong place, wrong time. Neil, your thoughts. And again, I mean, to Bob's point, Neil, this is supposed to be a startup for the presidency. Let's kick things off in the right directions. Let's have this prayer service. And it's supposed to be, you know, more of a, you know, solemn. Let's pray for the president as he enters into his term, et cetera, et cetera. And she decides to go into a preaching tirade against immigration, basically.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, you know, I served in pastoral ministry for eight years, and occasionally I got invited to go speak at someone else's church or at some kind of an event. And I was always sensitive when I went there to make sure that I was in keeping with the spirit of what was happening in that place at that moment. You know, I'll give an example. If a prosperity teacher goes into a church that doesn't believe in prosperity theology, maybe they should just stick to the gospel. That would be like the right thing to do. Or, you know, somebody that's real pro charismatic gifts versus somebody who comes from a more conservative, Baptistic kind of background. And there's mutual respect in those cases that these are issues that people can agree to disagree upon. When you start talking about political talking points and people are standing up in a pulpit and using opportunities to throw their political talking points at somebody who's just been elected president, when the focus is supposed to be on calling on God to intervene and to help us to lead the country in a way that would bring prosperity, pleasure to him etc i just think it's the wrong place we have freedom of speech in this country she has every right to say whatever she believes you know in in in whatever way she feels is right but i think she was completely wrong in doing it here at this time and donald trump is right to respond you know in the way that he did uh in proper time but you know it wasn't the right place wasn't the right time it was just it was ill-advised and wrong
SPEAKER 01 :
Guys, they should have, instead of having her, whoever planned this whole thing, instead of her, they should have replaced her with the young black pastor that actually prayed in the middle of the inauguration. That guy, man alive, awesome.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll tell you what, that Lorenzo Sewell, by the way, he pastors 180 Church here in Detroit. And he actually caught a lot of heat. I've interviewed him on my show before. He caught a lot of heat because Donald Trump, during the campaign, when he was reaching out to black communities, Trump wanted to reach out to the black communities in Detroit. And 180 Church is in the heart of the inner city of Detroit. And so Trump said, hey, can I can I come in and join a forum there where we have a lot of leaders and people in the community get together? And can I come there and I'll be happy to take questions and let me just talk? And he's like, sure. And he agreed to host it at his church. Oh, he got hammered large. He told me on my show after because I had him on the show after this happened. He's like, I can't believe the hate that I received from so many. But he also received a lot of good compliments, too. So, you know.
SPEAKER 01 :
Awesome. Neil, real quick, SunPower LED. And as we watch the Trump administration, we haven't gotten to the point where we've got, you know, RFK Jr. confirmed. Not sure how that's all going to go, although there's been a big push, you know, at least in his campaign. And I think you're going to see them follow through on this where it's, you know, make money. america healthy again you're going to see some reforms on certain things when it comes to health care in and of itself i think you're going to see personally this is my prediction a push for some you know quote unquote alternative things you know out of the box thinking where you know big pharma you know big insurance is not dictating what gets done and this is where sun power led comes in
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SPEAKER 01 :
I appreciate that, Bob. Okay, let's talk about some of the executive orders and the highlights of, of course, one of the first things Donald Trump did, I went through some of these on my program yesterday, was go back and reverse a lot of the things that the Biden administration did, even all the way up until almost literally a couple of weeks prior to, you know, Donald Trump taking over office as President of the United States. So reversing a lot of those things, of course, one of the things he did right off the bat was, you know, get us out of the Paris Climate Accord, which is nothing more than a fleecing of the United States of America, while other countries can get by and do, you know, China and others can do pretty much whatever they want to do. It literally is a fleecing of our country and frankly doesn't exist unless we're a part of it. So it'll be interesting to see how that, you know, what happens moving forward along those lines. But then on top of that, guys, he's really going in and just obliterating all of the DEI wokeness that's inside of the federal government. Those folks that are even in those particular departments, if you've got a department inside of the federal government and you've got a DEI department as of 5 o'clock tonight, those people are no longer going to be working. They're on paid leave. And then they've got instructions as to how are we going to get rid of these individuals moving forward. So I want a plan of attack as to how we're going to technically fire these people in these particular departments moving forward. So guys, I mean, Bob, those two things alone are huge.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, they really are. I mean, it is a new day in America. DEI, this diversity, equity, inclusion nonsense, this kind of discrimination that's not based on merit. It's a cancer, Bob. And by the way, there's a lot of corporations that have been coming in line and realizing, maybe this isn't a smart thing to do. They reversed all of that.
SPEAKER 01 :
They know it's not best for their business.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. It's not. It's a poor business model. It's discriminatory. It's divisive in America.
SPEAKER 01 :
And it lowers the quality of your product at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And you know something else? It's not fair for minorities, and I'll tell you why. Because, look, if I were a black man, I'm a white guy, so okay, I get it. But if I were a black man... and I achieved some high-level position in some company, I would want everybody looking at me to assume that I earned that on my merit and that I really am the best person for that job. I wouldn't want to be walking under a shadow of suspicion of, is that guy a DEI hire? So he's not really the best. He's got the right skin color or the right sexuality or the right gender or whatever. Right. No. You know what? I love what Don Jr. said one time about his dad. He said, you know something? When he looks at people, he doesn't see black or white or male or female or gay or straight. You know what he sees? He sees green. OK, how do we make people financially better? How do we make that's what he sees? And it's an absolutely right way to look at it. Who's the best for the job?
SPEAKER 01 :
I don't care if you're male, female, which, by the way, in his inauguration speech, you know, Bobby, he basically said that he said, you know, we're going to get rid of all of this DEI woke nonsense. We're going to be colorblind moving forward and merit based.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And it's how it should be.
SPEAKER 01 :
So I'll let you comment on that as well. I mean, for me, you know, that's a lot of the reason. Personally, I think that's a lot of the reason why even folks that didn't like Donald Trump voted for Donald Trump because they're tired of seeing all of that around them in the workplace.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree 100%. And by the way, we started today talking about the NFL and that the Buffalo Bills are still in it with a chance to win it. But the reason I'm bringing it up is they played the Baltimore Ravens last weekend. And Lamar Jackson is an absolutely phenomenal quarterback. He's unbelievable. It's astounding what that guy can do. The reason he's the starter on the team is because he's the best quarterback on the team. And who knows, maybe in the NFL he might win his third MVP this year. Personally, I think Josh Allen deserves it, but either way, he's a phenomenal quarterback. New England Patriots, Drake May is the starter. He's white. Why? Because they think he's the best player. Jacoby Bursette is black. He's the backup. Jacoby's a great quarterback. At times he's started in the past, but either way... It's merit-based decision-making. I think this is amazing because all of this happened on Martin Luther King Day, right? When Martin Luther King said himself that we ought to be more concerned with the content of somebody's character than the color of their skin. It's time to do away with this baloney that has to do with DEI and pushing people into positions that they're not really qualified for just so we can meet racial quotas and whatever. Let's get back to merit-based learning, merit-based promotions in the workplace, in education, etc. And I think that the American people largely will embrace that. And the other thing is it sets a high bar for everyone. Hey, if you want to be the head of the company, then be the best at what you do. Work hard, and there's a possibility you can advance. And I just think that the American people are so ready for it. By the way, when Donald Trump said this week, I will also end the government policy of trying to socially engineer race and gender into every aspect of public and private life, we will forge a society that is colorblind and merit-based. As of today, it will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders, male and female. I was like, hallelujah.
SPEAKER 01 :
It was unbelievable. Amen. Amen. No, Bob, when I heard that, I mean, again, those were things that was just like, hallelujah, it's about time we get somebody with some common sense back in charge and stop going down this whole woke nonsense path. And to your point, Bob, and again, I'm an employer. I know a lot about what... You were talking about even with Donald Trump. By the way, I look at people very much the same way he does. At the end of the day, how can I lift you up so that you working for me can lift me up? I mean, at the end of the day, it's all about if you make money, I make money, and that's how I look at it. And to your point, Bob, when we lower that standard and we allow people to have certain jobs just based upon something about their skin color or something about their age or something about their gender, The reality is we are taking away their ability to excel and exceed and get better in this life. And by the way, for all of you Christians that are listening to me, that is anti-Christian because that is not what God wants for us.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. Well, think about, I mean, does this sound familiar? Okay. There is neither male nor female, Jew nor Greek. Okay.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, we're all one in Christ Jesus. Okay. So it is consistent, not that Donald Trump is invoking that, of course, but it is a consistent thing to say, no, this is not about... As Christians, we're either in Christ or we're not, okay? There's no differing value according to skin color, male, female, anything like that. And in the business world, that's how it ought to be too. Look, if I were a minority, I wouldn't want people to be looking at me wondering.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, Bob, really, no offense. As a white male our age, you are.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, actually, that is true. That is true. OK, but I mean, the discrimination that does that, it is true that if you are a white, straight male, then there is a kind of, you know, you're at the back of the line as far as advantages and things like that that you can get in government. I mean, somebody out there try to get a small business, an SBA loan, OK, as a white, straight male. It is way more difficult.
SPEAKER 01 :
But absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
So it shouldn't be that way. But I'm just saying just for the sake of minorities, don't make them be looked at with a sense of suspicion. You know, if I go see a doctor and this is a black woman who's a doctor, OK, I want to completely trust that I've got the best doctor. I don't want to sit there and think, OK, well, is she like 19th best? But, you know, she's got the right gender and the right skin color. No, that's not right. So this is a good thing for. By the way, can I just say that Trump has also ordered what they're calling the one flag policy? Yeah. which is U.S. federal offices and embassies around the world. They're not allowed to fly the pride flags. They're not allowed to fly Black Lives Matter flags. It's the American flag, period. The only exceptions to that are in certain embassies, if there's prisoners of war or something like that, you can fly the POW flag, missing in action flag, wrongful detainee flag. But other than that, none of these political message flags anymore.
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, on top of that too, guys, and Neil, I mean, this, you know, the left would probably say is the wrong track for Donald Trump, but he also put a hiring freeze on any new federal worker. What he really is looking at is, okay, all of you that have agencies, and he's already even said this, he's even said this to corporate America, you guys need to figure out a way to lower your overall costs. Those of you that are in the federal sides of things, how do we lower costs to help out the taxpayer? Those of you that are in the corporate end of things, How do we lower costs so we can help out consumers at the end of the day? And by the way, everything that we just talked about, you know, that Bob just mentioned, Neil, and you said as well, all DEI does, which also no one ever talks about, is add costs. You've got to cost for each one of those individuals that are handling those programs, that are administering it. I mean, not only are we lowering costs. the quality in the case of a lot of companies, including the federal and state governments, but the reality is there's an additional cost to that as well. You take all of that away, and I don't know if anybody's even done any math on how much that saves the country, but Neil, it's got to be a huge number when you look at how many people are involved in that particular end of things.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and on top of that, has any DEI mandate ever changed a human heart? Meaning, if you've got racism in your heart, if you've got discrimination in your heart, has any heart been changed as a result of this?
SPEAKER 01 :
It probably makes it worse, Neil. I agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was going to say, it hardens hearts. It hardens hearts. Exactly. Exactly. And the law didn't do anything except cause us to desire sin. That's what the Word of God says. God handed down his perfect law, but it accomplished what it was supposed to, to prove that we can't handle this on our own. We needed Jesus to come and fix us. And so when you start shoving mandates in people's faces, it hardens hearts. And I think that the bottom line is people have grown in the United States of America to realize that racism is wrong and that we need to honor all people regardless of skin color. Does that mean there's no racism? No, it's still there. But let's work on this by pursuing love. Let's work on this by pursuing what's right and promoting people on the basis of their merit and their accomplishment, not the color of their skin. How many people have been denied opportunities, by the way? Isn't that reverse racism? Denied opportunities because they had the wrong color skin?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, too many.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm sorry. We would love to promote you, and you've been here 25 years, and this guy's only been here three and a half years. But he's black and you're white, so we need to promote him.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, guys, I have, and I'm sure you guys have as well, I have interviewed individuals over the years that can give you stories of being inside of government or police forces or fire departments or just corporate America that were passed over for the very things Neil said. that you just said. Bob, I'm sure you've interviewed some of those individuals as well. I've got personal testimonies from callers talking about that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, I know. Absolutely, that's the case. So what I'm really hopeful, though, is that this will not just be a temporary four-year blip, but that Americans will see through the course of these four years the misguided nature of all of this DEI wokeism, discriminating against people because they're not the right color or sexuality or things like that. A meritocracy. If we can actually have America start recognizing the value of meritocracy, then we can compete better against... The Chinese. You really think over in Russia and in China and some of these other places that they're doing the DEI hires? No, of course they're not. It's like, who is the best and what is in the best interest of our country? That's how everybody else looks at it. Why in the world are we acting like it's controversial for Trump to do that?
SPEAKER 01 :
All right, before we start to kind of wind things down, one question, Neil, I'll start with you. If Donald Trump continues on the track that he's on, and granted, he's always going to have opposition. That's not going to change. It's going to continue to be there. As he continues to have this opposition, but continues to forge forward in some of the things that we are talking about, A, what do the midterms look like? B, what does 2028 look like?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, obviously, I think he learned a lesson. I hope he learned a lesson from his first term in office because he lost the House in the first midterm that happened during his first presidency. And he's got to be careful about that. And I don't think that he ought to be pandering to people falsely. I think he ought to be doing what's right for the American people, and he'll retain both the House and the Senate. But this is a crucial time, and I think he needs to make good on all of his campaign promises. He came out Came out of the gate strong. But, you know, there was a lot of minority voters, Hispanics, blacks that voted for him. He needs to keep them in mind in policies that he's putting forward and where he goes with his administration and move strongly towards taking care of these people that elected him. Because if he does, he'll keep the House. He doesn't want to lose it. It would cost him dearly for his presidency and where he goes next after that if he loses the House or the Senate.
SPEAKER 01 :
Bob, I'll look at you to follow up on that. And then we've also got pre-born and we've only got about a minute or so. So sorry, limited time, but give your thoughts as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we do have to remember, I mean, it is common. The normal thing is midterms, the Congress, House or Senate end up flipping to the non-White House party. That is common. So if that happens in 2026, That is what is considered normal. So if Republicans retain the House and Senate, that will actually be historic that Trump was able to do that. So it's an uphill battle to make that happen. And you're right. Preborn is just a phenomenal organization. And we're asking everybody right now, if you haven't given to Preborn yet, please do it now. Maybe this is your 2025 contribution. We need some of you to buy ultrasound machines. They're $15,000 a piece. Great tax write-off for you. Your forever legacy is you're stopping thousands and thousands of abortions year after year, okay? Now, for everybody else that can't afford to buy an ultrasound machine, will you pay for individual ultrasound images? $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, save one baby's life, okay? So how many babies' lives will you save? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, that's your forever legacy. If you've given to preborn already, would you consider giving again? Here's how you give. Go online right now to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. Every dime you give goes to ultrasounds. Nothing for overhead. And you can call over the phone, 833-850-BABY, and they answer 24-7. 833-850-BABY. Call right now. Please give and support our sponsors.
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Join us as we explore the ongoing legal challenges faced by the Trump administration's executive orders, particularly in immigration and pro-life policies. With several states setting up substantial legal funds to combat federal directives, the landscape of American governance faces unprecedented opposition. We also highlight new developments in pro-life legislation, offering listeners insights into the strategies and tools being employed by advocacy groups like the ACLJ to uphold and advance their causes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Today on the show, ICE has been activated as massive arrests begin. Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. So you don't think who the president is and who runs our government makes a difference or that your vote matters? In just the first 48 hours of President Trump's presidency, ICE has made nearly 800 or maybe over 800 arrests. That's probably getting close to a thousand today by just unleashing. the authority that these officers that are part of the Homeland Security Department and overseen by Governor, will be eventually overseen by Governor Noem as she goes through her confirmation process, but that once you unleash the power of what the law already allows these agents to do, you can hit these, well, they sound unbelievably high numbers, but you realize that's just the beginning. That's just tip of the iceberg when you're talking about at least, we've been saying 11 million people for, I feel like, 8 to 10 years. So it's got to be 20, right? Because those 11 million people have gotten older. They've had kids. I mean, it's not 11 or 12 million. It's got to be over 20 million people. So if you're going to do that, You got to stay on track really quick. And if you know where the illegal aliens are, for instance, if they are in prisons, they have gone to prisons and they have said, you have 300 who were going to be taken care of until what? They are then eventually deported. How about we deport them now to serve their prisons sentences in their home countries? And so 300 of them were taken from prison situations. And this is just being done in 48 hours. Imagine when this government is fully up and running. It's not right now. I will be very clear with you. Today, the Trump administration is probably at about 50%. President Trump is at 100%, but his team is not fully in place. You don't have all the secretaries yet. That's why it's so important that we watch the nominations and the hearing schedules that they stay on track because you've got to get the cabinet secretaries in and you've got to get their deputies in. And once you start doing that, their department heads, then you've got a Trump administration going at 100%. So they can do this at 50%. Imagine what they will be able to do when all of their people are in their key positions. And that usually takes a couple of months in the federal government, even if you're on time and don't have too many holdups. It's not so much that, again, you've just got to go through a lot of hearings because a number of these positions require Senate approval. So it's not just you nominating them, it's them going to a committee hearing, sometimes over a day, and then eventually getting votes scheduled on the Senate floor. The Senate's very close right now, so you have to start with your top, top folks. But it is an example of what you can do. Logan, I think when you, one, when you've been there before, but two, when you know
SPEAKER 07 :
what the law already allows this is not creating new law this was just saying through executive order we're going to start doing what we're allowed to do under the law yeah absolutely and start pushing those forward and for the ones that maybe are on the line you start pushing that to see what could come of it you know conversations then are unlocked and you know the conversations start happening we want to hear from you as well though give us a call at 1-800-684 31-10. About this, as we've seen now, the border lockdown in some ways start to begin, start to roll out. As Jordan said, the full team is not in yet. It will probably be weeks, if not months, until that happens. But there will be some people that have gone through very successfully. We already saw that with Marco Rubio and more.
SPEAKER 06 :
and the law fair has already begun too I mean we I was in a meeting with all of our attorneys yesterday before the show and I said I want to look at those executive orders because that's the first acts by the president we haven't seen legislation yet and those they're going to come under legal scrutiny they already are starting to get lawsuits those lawsuits have already been filed from the far left but you've also got states like New York and California saying we're going to put together 50 million dollar war chests just to fight legally every trump administration order we disagree with so think about what we're up against in just a couple of states they put together a hundred million dollars by the snap of their finger to take on all of the issues that you care about. So we've got to fight back at the ACLJ. You can become an ACLJ champion, a monthly recurring donor today at ACLJ.org slash champions. The champions are the key to our work in these big fights that are going to last years. Let's go to ACLJ.org. All right, welcome back to Secular. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. So there is a lot to talk about, too, and what's going on with the Trump administration right away. We want to take your calls, too. So we'll get to those as you kind of work through these executive orders and what is happening legislatively at 1-800-684-3110. be a part of the show today now we've got these efforts New Jersey has already filed against birthright citizenship we walked through that yesterday as well while we were walking through that with our team so what does this birthright citizenship executive order do and I think this one it might end up in courts it's interesting because you know the constitution just says birthright And we've allowed a very broad definition of what that means to basically be anybody who has a child here, that child, is a U.S. citizen. It doesn't matter how their parents got here, who their parents are, or if their parents were even supposed to be here legally or not. So it starts with, okay, start with the mother. Is the mother here illegally or is she here temporarily? So not a green card or something on up, like the citizenship. Well, if you combine that with a father who is illegal or also not supposed to be here permanently, which means doesn't have to be citizenship but something like a green card, then that person would not get citizenship. But if you start making those combinations where you've got a father who is here, well, then you would. If you have a mother who is here, again, permanently, then you would then benefit from birthright citizenship. So what will the courts do about that? I think that's just going to be interesting to see where they see jurisdiction. and how they interpret something that's very broad in the Constitution, and it's been very broadly allowed to be interpreted by the federal government. No one's really ever stepped in and said, you know what, is this really what they were talking about? I mean, they really just mean if people... violated the law knowingly to have a child here that those should be citizens or if people had a vacation here and they went into labor early that that's supposed to become a citizen of the United States because then we started to have industries built around that birthing you know tourism yeah birth tourism And if you lived in places like Miami or others, you would see this all over the place. Really nice medical birthing centers set up because people would have to come and kind of guess. And so these are wealthier, usually Latin Americans who could make sure their children would be born as American citizens.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they would often just return home. that's awesome this is not talking about people who are coming here trying to have a baby so they can stay not that situation you're talking about like jordan said sort of wealthy individuals that would come later they're coming they're flying home as soon as that they're flying home and then you have uh dual citizenship for your child i mean i understand it in some ways you you have a an opportunity to to have your kid become an american and be part of the greatest country in the world right makes sense right i mean until the
SPEAKER 06 :
the laws are changed and we know that they are changed. I mean, you would understand why people in economic situations that can afford to do that would think about doing that. You can also see why people who are in the worst
SPEAKER 07 :
conditions risk coming over the border um because they they know that probably seven out of ten times they'll be able to get across the border but now it's donald trump's administration emergency health care so if there's needed you know they'll be able to get probably a better situation in terms of the medical care they're going to get provided than in their you know own
SPEAKER 06 :
But we've already got, Will, New Jersey filing against, they're already saying they're going to file lawsuits against this. So another state, now we've talked about New York, we've talked about California. You'd think those states would be focusing on themselves right now instead of, in some of their major cities, instead of taking on the Trump administration's executive orders. But no, they're taking the people's taxpayer money to file lawsuits on birthright citizenship.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right, Jordan. And as we mentioned in the previous segment, 766 arrests Tom Homan, the border czar, announced have taken place in the first 24 hours of the new Trump administration. 308 of those were for serious criminals, meaning murder, violent crimes, things of that nature. And this 766 number, that's more in the first day than President Trump did in the first week of his first term. which was still a very big focus on illegal immigration in 2017, early 2017. This number in 24 hours is a large number. Also, you know that ICE has probably felt restrained under the Biden administration. So I'm sure the agents at ICE are happy to be getting back to their core mission. But you also mentioned the lawfare that's being waged. And you've been warning about this since November 6th. Since the day we came on air and said President Trump was declared the winner, but just be on the lookout for this dangerous period and how the left will fight back and why groups like the ACLJ are so important. Gavin Newsom and California Democrats reached a $50 million deal. the week before inauguration. So they'd been trying to put this deal together since the election, but at a time when they're having one of the worst wildfires in the state's history, which is wiping out large swaths of L.A., they're still working on a $50 million deal to what they call Trump-proof the state. And what this entails is $25 million going to the California Department of Justice to fight the federal government in court. So essentially fight every federal thing that they can that President Trump is going to put forward. And the other $25 million of this $50 million is going to go to NGOs and nonprofits.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not us.
SPEAKER 02 :
That are specifically legal nonprofits. So the left's version of an ACLJ, the state is going to be giving up to $25 million to defend immigrants against deportation, detention, and wage theft.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is when you start thinking about these left-leaning states with your taxpayer dollars and going... Do you really want to be funding this? I mean, I get like if your career has to be there, if this is where you must live or, you know, moving is not easy depending on what stage of life you're at either, where your business is, your family is. We all understand that. But you realize they're weaponizing their own version of ACLJs, not by people who are giving voluntarily, but by you, the taxpayer. And then they're going to then fund the left's version to go into court to fight the Trump administration as much as possible. I've said this just to get it through to people how important this statistic is. And I have no doubt this four years will be the same. when we look back on it because we're already seeing so much legal action from our team right now I mean we were in a meeting the day after you know the swearing in when really it's a very but because the executive orders were signed and it wasn't like a usual president who does like a few the 200 well guess what we had to go to work and we had to get our team to start prioritizing those executive orders but you know what we're not going to do we're not going to get $2 million or $3 million checks from California, New Jersey, or New York to help fight this in court. We have to, and we will end up spending more money and filing more cases under the Trump administration than the Biden administration. And in one sense, it's a good thing because that means we are in court fighting on issues not to stop something we believe is bad, but to help something go into force and to work that we believe will greatly assist our country. So when you're looking at it as an attorney, it's a more proactive way of saying, you know what, we believe this is constitutional, we believe this is worth fighting for, not because this is going to damage America, but because this is going to put America in a better standing than it is right now in the world. And that's what you're always trying to do when you're looking at those kind of policy and legal situations. And we're doing it at the ACLJ. You want to be part of it. There's a couple different ways. You can give one-time donations at ACLJ.org. You can also say, you know what? It's the new year. I know I've got this much a month I could donate to the ACLJ and just do it automatically if it's $20 or $50 or $100. And you could do that at ACLJ.org slash champions. That's ACLJ.org slash champions. We've got calls on the border coming in as well as some of the life executive orders that we're going to get into in the next segment of the broadcast. But I think we can go to Erica in Illinois on line three. Hey, Erica.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, Logan, I am so excited this morning to be able to call. I've wanted to since I started supporting ACLJ since the Obama reign. I wanted to say we used to RV down in Texas, nine years, got reports from the border patrol. And the last month that we stayed, there were 284, no, 248, 248 illegals coming across. And the Border Patrol said they want more manpower. And every month we got a report to our ears. Want more manpower, more equipment, and more money to bring order. And that was 248 people in one month. And today, today, we are getting rid of 1,024 hours. I am so excited. I don't think people realize what a journey this is going to be ahead of us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, listen, there's going to be a fight, but a lot of this is going to be positive. I mean, what a lot of the Border Patrol agents are doing right now, even some of the policies that people are saying, well, that's more extreme because they go into a church, they would go into these places, sensitive places, they used to call them. Nothing in the law prevented that. Those were policies. But when things get so bad and communities are being taken over by violence and trafficking and the drugs that come through having a porous border, you have to look at your options and unleash the laws that have already been passed and written to empower your agents to get the job done. And what does that do ultimately? It is to remove those who are here illegally and they are starting with people who are the most dangerous to communities so not started with grandmas they're starting with the gangs the people who have um again records in the united states of crime support the work of the aclj donate today at aclj.org what's happening on life we'll get to that when we get back That's interesting. Today is the anniversary of the Roe vs. Wade decision. And a lot of the, you know, because of the Dobbs case overturning Roe vs. Wade, there's been a lot of shifting to that date being a day that is celebrated in the pro-life movement. But you'll see pro-life work being done today and tomorrow. U.S. Senate as well as in the House of Representatives. I know Congressman Chip Roy has got legislation moving through in the House of Representatives specifically on life. And we've also got it in the U.S. Senate tomorrow. So CeCe, tell people in the U.S. Senate, they're going to vote on a bill to protect babies who survive abortion, the Born Alive protections. What do they think the vote's going to look like?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, well, we saw on January 11th, the House actually passed it and that passed by a vote of 220 to 210. So, you know, that's a significant, especially when we see abortion votes are very close. You know, I'm encouraged by the 220 to 210 vote in the House. The Born Alive Protection Abortion Survivors Protection Act in the Senate is co-sponsored by Senator Lankford and Senator Thune. And, you know, hopefully we will have a good vote there as well, because it really is just like Senator Lankford said. It's a common sense vote. And it's basically, if a baby, has a botched abortion and they are born alive, they deserve protection. And it's kind of silly. You don't even think that there should have to be a law saying that. But we have seen time and time again that these abortion doctors and nurses, a baby will be born alive from a botched abortion and they will be left to just die on the table. And so this bill will actually protect those children.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, the Senate, it's obviously a closer breakdown when you're talking about those who support life even amongst in the Republican Party. So it could be a very close vote if we can get it to the floor. Do we think we can even get this to the floor of the U.S. Senate?
SPEAKER 01 :
I think they're pretty certain that it's going to happen on Friday. So if you care about this at all, then I say contact your senators and tell them to vote for it. Again, it is a common sense bill. If a baby is born alive from an abortion, they should absolutely have the right to have their life protected.
SPEAKER 02 :
And Jordan, also, I think it is very important to point out that Leader Thune is the co-sponsor in the Senate. So you know that he is bringing this as a first action in the Senate. Obviously, they'd already gone through the Lake and Riley Act, and they got that passed afterwards. But having this bill as an early bill in the Senate that is co-sponsored by the new Senate majority leader, I think speaks volumes to him showing the conservative base that I'm looking out for your priorities as well. I also think that probably gives it a better chance of clearing some of those cloture votes and some of those thresholds to move the legislation forward. because he is the new leader. This is an opportunity for him to flex his power a little bit and say, my name's on this bill. I want to move forward that you wouldn't necessarily have if it were just Senator Langford and maybe another non-leadership position or, you know, in the hierarchy of the Senate Republicans co-sponsoring that. So I think we're looking for a positive outcome and hopefully it does go forward. But this isn't the only thing that's going on. You see Senator Hawley is actually asking President Trump to pardon 21 pro-life protesters that have prison or jail sentences, things of that nature. You see that the Department of Health and Human Services on day one, once the new administration was in, took down the section of the website about abortion, about how to get abortions. So the entire pro-life movement is now getting sort of an uplifting moment after four years of a very aggressive pro-abortion administration. We're starting to see some reprieve of that, and hopefully there are more things coming as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, let's go to Robert in Maryland to talk about some other things coming. Robert, you're on line one. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Hi. I wanted to ask you a question. How many executive orders on the first day of President Trump's inauguration, January 20th, is he already signed pro-life executive orders that would overturn the pro-abortion executive orders of former President Biden? And second thing on the border, the people that sounds like that they're deporting that are illegal immigrants, they're concentrating right now and focusing on the ones that have committed crimes in the countries they came from, in addition to the ones that have committed crimes since they came here. If that's correct on the border issue.
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Yeah, on the border issue, right. They're not starting with kids and grandparents. They're starting with people of criminal records. Either they know that they have criminal records at home or where they came from or that they have criminal records here. And then I'd say the other asterisk there would be not necessarily a long rap sheet, but their known involvement with a cartel. So whether you've got the tattoos, the markings, you're in a raid on a cartel that you were there and captured alongside with them, that these are going to be people who are going to be the first priority to be removed from the United States of America. on life we're waiting for the mexico city policy to be reinstated uh that should be done shortly i mean i would likely that be done this week or next week uh that prevents funding from the united states going overseas uh to organizations that provide abortions which is a lot of where that money to that goes to international organizations and so it it affects uh millions and millions of dollars uh but you you're seeing pro-life moves like uh uh Remember, this administration appointed the justices that overturn Roe versus Wade. And a lot of the battles are not happening at the federal level anymore. They're actually at the state level. So while we've got the Born Alive Act vote, hopefully in the U.S. Senate on Friday, and in the House... Chip Roy, we talked about those protesters that were arrested. Congressman Chip Roy is a friend of our broadcast, is putting forward legislation for a vote to remove the FACE Act, the Free Access to Clinics, and that is the law. the Department of Justice. They have an entire department inside the DOJ that uses that to primarily prosecute pro-life protesters and then it makes it a federal crime. So he's looking to do that in the House. The House still, the margins are tight, but you're seeing pro-life legislation move forward and then you'll see those pro-life executive orders. And as Will said, you're getting pro-life people put into positions. A lot of them aren't there yet. So, you know, we don't have our Attorney General Pam Bondi yet. Once we do, I mean, that is going to change a lot of Department of Justice policies right there. When you have, you know, FBI Director Kash Patel's there, they're not going to be looking at, you know, radical traditionalist Catholics or pro-life activists to show up at their door with 20 FBI officers. Things are, policies will change as well. That's a big part of the change. It's not always... Is there a law they can put in force? So we talked about two just now this week. But it's also the policies. It's also, are you going to prioritize trying to arrest pro-life protesters? And we know that when the left gets into power, it's exactly what they want to do. They want to try and show. And I think they failed after the overturning of Roe vs. Wade, but they like to try and show that somehow it's the pro-life activists that are the bad actors and the violent actors and the bad people. And usually they are people who are older, who are praying... who are offering assistance to those and saying, hey, there's other options like the pregnancy centers that you can talk to that can provide you with a lot of help that you may need. So this is not the only option you have. And of course, at the end of the day, We know that these fights for life, just like on securing our border, this is just the first 48 going into 72 hours. The fights are going to get tougher. They're going to get harder. And we're going to need your support. We're going to need your support because we know that there's going to be, there already is so much legal work to do to get our country back on track, to make it the greatest country in the world once again and protect the unborn. So go to ACLJ.org and donate today if you can't.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Seculo. And now your host, Jordan Seculo.
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Hey, welcome to Secular. We are taking your calls. 1-800-684-3110. A lot of talk on immigration because I think what you're seeing is this is an issue that really the federal government has the most power to decide the policy on. And even the federal government, I'm not talking about the legislation or the need for new legislation. Certainly, if you want to spend a lot of new resources, so if we're going to add a lot of wall, major expenditures, you do need those expenditures covered with congressional authorization. Sometimes you can find the money in other places in discretionary spending that gets put into these large spending bills. But a lot of this is just policy. And the policy emanates from the executive branch. And right now, most of that policy, because there's only a couple of executive branch leaders in position, there's the president, the vice president, and the secretary of state. I'm not sure who else has actually gotten a vote on the floor of the U.S. Senate yet. I'm not sure if anyone else has. So this is emanating mostly from the White House. And what they're doing is they're changing the policy. So they're kind of unleashing ICE to be able to do what, what they had the capability to do, but they weren't allowed to do. under the previous administration, so under the Biden-Harris administration. And you've got actions everywhere from what citizenship, how that will be defined, to actions about what is actually going to happen at the border with troops. We can go to the phones, 1-800-684-3110.
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There's a story breaking right now that 1,500 additional troops will be moved to the border by the end of January. That's a report to Fox News from the U.S. officials.
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Yeah, and we've got a call on that.
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All right, let's go ahead. All right, line six. Yeah, Judy is calling from Oregon on line six. Watching on YouTube, you're on Sekulow.
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Thank you for all the wonderful work you do. Yes, I heard about the troops, but I also heard that people are massing on the border. hundreds and hundreds of people. And they've done this before, and I believe they're going to do this again, try a mass border crossing, putting the women and children in front. What can Trump do to defuse this? Because it's a lose-lose situation.
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Well, I think one is you have a mass amount of force so that people have to rethink, okay, am I going to go through this? And then look what's there. This is not a bunch of welcoming asylum officers. This is military. And border patrol. These are people that are going to arrest you and they're going to deport you. And they remember how quickly the Trump administration would get those deportations done so that people weren't being housed in those children cages, all those facilities that we were building. It was horrendous. uh conditions and the conditions were were horrible that people were in and we don't want that either so you've got to handle this quickly and what you've got to do is a show of force so that people stop thinking that it's a good idea to go to that border and illegally cross i i don't think what you're going to be seeing is a bunch of troops put in place who aren't trained for this So we're not just saying, okay, you know what? There's not enough ICE agents, so we're going to throw random troops down there. We're going to be sending troops and forces down. They're going to have training in this. They're going to have knowledge about how to deal with the individuals. And I think the bigger picture, guys, is they don't want people looking over that border and saying maybe some asylum workers and some tents set up for people and medical testing facilities and places they can stay and food instead of saying, you know what, this is a country that's serious about their own border security and because most of the drugs killing Americans and the crime is emanating from the southern border, we're going to put forward a show of force so that people have to rethink that.
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And one of the other components of that is it's not just sending troops, but the revival of the Remain in Mexico policy from President Trump. Well, that's the second part. You've got to work with Mexico.
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You've got to work with Mexico to prevent these people. Mexico and their military and their police can make sure that people don't amass like 1,500 at the border, creating a humanitarian crisis on purpose. So that trying to get you to bend to the crisis. Or send the resources that those people need to Mexico. So that the crisis can be averted, but you're not having to bring them inside the United States. You have to start thinking about it. I know it's tough because it's only been a few days. We have to be creative again. Remember, President Trump was really creative with the border laws. And we had lots of great policies in place. We did that because of you. Donate today at ACLJ.org. All right, welcome back to Secular. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. And Will, something we talked about, but we've got calls about as well, is these states on the left, these blue states, which are putting together slush funds, legal slush funds, to take on the Trump administration. And so think about what they will be doing is... giving out millions of taxpayer dollars to liberal organizations to then file lawsuits against the Trump administration. So to take us on in court, basically, to fight us. So we know that California and New York have each put aside $50 million. So that's $100 million right there that we're facing from just two states. We also know that other states, like New Jersey, they've already announced that they're going to be filing on the birthright. birthright citizenship. So some of this will be happening from the state level, but all of it being paid for by taxpayers in these states who, again, many are those taxpayers who support the work of the ACLJ. But yet your state and your governor is putting together $50 million slush funds to try and stop any of the policies that the American people elected a president to put into place.
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That's right. And if you look at what this is, for those of you that missed the earlier segment, that Gavin Newsom reached a deal in the week leading up to the inauguration with the senators, the Democrat-led Senate in California, at the same time that there's these catastrophic wildfires, that there's $50 million to fight the Trump agenda. $25 million will go directly to to the internal the state department of justice to fight the federal government and the other 25 will go to legal nonprofits and immigration support centers so imagine the aclj style organization but on the left they're putting aside 25 million dollars to go to these non-profits of taxpayer money to fight the deportation or detention of illegal immigrants. And I think we have a call from California about this very topic.
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Yeah, let's go to Carrie who's calling from California on line four. Carrie, you're on the air.
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Hi, how's it going?
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Good, good. Go ahead with your comment.
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So I, my husband's a big follower of some of the stuff that's going on in government and, um, he talked a little bit about how California is going to be trying to fight everything that's going, that Trump is trying to deal. But I didn't realize that news and put out, uh, um, I was using our tax money.
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to fight that yes yeah 50 million dollars he's worked with the legislature and then they're going to give that money out to little uh to liberal organizations and non-profits to go fight it out whether that's uh border issues uh immigration issues internally that are happening and other the policies pro-life policies i mean all basically you can go through the list of the issues that Trump and people who voted for President Trump really care about and it's most of those top issues that California and New York are going to take issue with about again kind of opening up our economy again with using the resources we have in our country so whether it's oil and gas and making sure that we are net exporter instead of importer of those and also at the same time the tougher immigration standards not just what's happening at a border but also what's happening inside communities that have been overrun by illegal criminal gangs and cartels that are running cities so but we know that this isn't just going to be put the policy into force and it's going to happen we know that there will be serious opposition Millions of dollars worth of legal fighting to do to make sure that those policies actually get to go into force. Some of those legal battles will be quick. Others will take a couple of years. And think about a couple of years in a presidency that is only going to be four years long. Okay, so a couple of years gets you to another midterm election. We know what the left strategy is. If you can tie up a policy... I will, especially for a couple of years and then maybe have some shift in the House and the Senate or both of them, especially when they're this close. And historically, you look back and midterms are tougher for the incumbent president. Not always, but sometimes, but most of the time. then if you can tie it up in court for a couple years, guess what you've done? You've actually stopped the policies the American people voted for for actually having a chance to go into force. That's right. Because then they'll come in with legislation to try and block it.
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You think about, obviously, the United States government has the Department of Justice, the Solicitor General. They have resources because they will have to fight this as well when they're sued. However... There's also a big job being undertaken right now to try and reform the Department of Justice. Many of the people that work for the Department of Justice may agree with some of these left-leaning states. And so that's also why organizations like the ACLJ, especially when there is leftist counterparts that are making these lawsuits as well, it is so important to have the voice of the ACLJ members heard. with the great work and extreme intelligence, brilliance of our legal team to fight back as well. Because our legal team at the ACLJ has defended presidents of the United States, has defended state governments, has defended even sidewalk pro-life counselors. We are experts at the very things that these states are going to be fighting against. So that's another reason why it's so important to support our work in this time, because you have to have all hands on deck when the left is going to designate taxpayer money to the tune of $50 million. We heard about all the tax cuts that Mayor Bass of LA did to their fire departments and things of that nature. But yet at the same time, the state government is increasing the budget to just do one thing, fight Trump, fight a conservative agenda in the court system. So the ACLJ is ready to fight. I know that you were there having those meetings yesterday. Yeah. Right after the inauguration, what was Jordan doing? He was in DC meeting with the attorneys of the ACLJ, crafting a strategy of how we fight back. And as you're having those meetings, we're getting news alerts, lawsuit filed, lawsuit filed, lawsuit filed. And so we are ready. You have the strategy and we are going to continue, but we also need the support of our members.
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Yeah, we do. I mean, the key is, and it's just like I said, we will be in more active litigation than we probably were in under the Biden administration. That was a lot of litigation. We'll have to go back and count it all up because some of it is still ongoing and it will be closed more quickly now when you get more. people into these offices. We have really kind of two focuses at the ACLJ right now when you're at the early part of an administration that you've worked closely with. Number one is making sure that there are early policies when they don't have the department's heads in yet, they don't have the deputies in yet, to make sure that those early policies don't just get beat up in a district court or a court of appeals and not get fully flushed out in court and fight back. So you want to make sure that that doesn't occur. And the second part of that And I think it's just important then is getting the people confirmed. You've got to get people into these offices to start running the offices or it makes it more difficult to, because the Department of Justice would be the main defense mechanism of these lawsuits like New Jersey's talking about or California's talking about or New York is talking about. But our AG is not in and the deputies are not in yet. And until they are in, we still have to be ready to fight back. And President Trump is going to continue to move on his agenda. So what do you do? You can rely on groups like the ACLJ and others to make sure that while you're in this process of transition, which is still going on and likely will go on. I mean, it takes a couple of months. I mean, just to be honest with people.
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Thousands and thousands.
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Yeah. I mean, you're talking... about nearly 10,000 positions that you can fill. And I'd say with every major department, you need to fill at least 50 before you're up and running maybe at 100% of being able to implement the policies or the legal approach that you're going to take and prioritizations. I mean, that's one thing that we have in a government It's prosecutorial discretion. So Pam Bondi, working alongside President Trump and his team, will decide what are our priorities. as the Department of Justice. And it's not going to be, I have a feeling, going after Catholics or the pro-life community. It's going to be going after the violent criminals and people who are causing Americans to die. I think a lot of it ties into the border, and it ties into what happens when the drugs are already here. And so you will focus differently on what issues you prioritize, and by doing that, you're allowing those resources to be utilized for what you care about the most. And it's a great tool that they will have when they are in place. But I say that. It's when they are in place. And the left knows the longer they can try and drag their feet on some of these nominees, and they'll try to do as long as possible because that means there's that much less time for those nominees to actually get in there and start changing things and start implementing the policies.
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Yeah, but we knew all this was coming. That's why the ACLJ has been fighting back. And, you know, it's only been 48, 72 hours or so now that President Trump has been in office. We could use your support, though. Go to ACLJ.org. Become an ACLJ champion if you can. That's something that gives on a monthly recurring basis. Obviously, it's tax deductible. And you can do that, and it's automatic. Just go ahead and opt in. You can do that at any level. Leave $5 as the minimum or give a one-time gift at aclj.org. We really would appreciate it. If you're brand new watching on YouTube, I encourage you or Rumble, hit that subscribe button. If you're brand new, we do this show each and every weekday and put up a lot of great content as well. And we're going to be taking your calls coming up in the next segment, 1-800-684-3110.
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All right, welcome back to Secchio. We got calls, and I want to get to all of them. So we'll be kind of jumping around with the topics that we've been talking about today and even some of the issues that were occurring before the elections. Let's just go by order that people have been holding on, and we'll get to all of them.
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Let's go to Jane, who's first, who's calling in El Paso, Texas, watching on YouTube. If you're watching on YouTube as well, hit that subscribe button if you're brand new. And about half the people that watch each and every day don't subscribe, and we would appreciate it. So go ahead, Jane.
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Hey, good afternoon. Just wanted to let you know I'm a champion as well. I love you guys. Thank you. But I wanted to tell you prior to the Biden border, prior to that, our biggest problem is the dangling carrot of birthright citizenship, because we have lots of women coming over here just to have a baby. And these are women that have, have never had prenatal care. So their babies have tons of complications, tons of medical expenses to be in our NICU. But when they come over here and they're an American baby, they get all of our tax dollars or Medicare. Medicaid, sorry, and they get everything that they could possibly need. And so this is a big draw for these women to come over here. It's a huge problem in our emergency room.
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You know, we call it anchor baby. I know that you don't want to necessarily use terms that are like derogatory about the child because the child's not the one making any of these decisions. But yes, sometimes you're putting yourself at risk as someone who's pregnant very late in a pregnancy to try and come here and get this done. And listen, we're not talking about ending all birthright citizenship. I watched it through it. If you've got a parent that has a green card, you would become a u.s citizen so just one of your parents um it's really we're talking about both if if you know who both the parents are and neither have uh they're either here legally or here temporarily um so they're on a tourist visa or a short-term work visa those the combinations are the people who will not be uh able then to claim birthright citizenship if you're have a parent who is here maybe doesn't have a green card and one who does have a green card you would still qualify for birthright citizenship under this executive order by President Trump so it is not so extreme as to try and ban the idea of birthright citizenship which we have in our U.S. constitution it's going back and kind of reinterpreting did we really mean people here on vacation? Did we really mean people who violated the law? to get here that their kids would thus benefit, and then they benefit by having a U.S. citizen child because it's harder to remove them from the country when they've got a minor who has just become a citizen of the U.S.
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And also, a short-term tourist visa wasn't a thing when the Constitution was written. Someone couldn't just come over here for a week or a day even and leave. But I also, before we get to another call, I think it is important to also point out, back to that caller's point, that... The left that wants to be so compassionate and says that a border is not compassionate. When you have no border and no security of that point, you actually are putting people more at risk that try to get over and then depend on emergency care in the United States and tax the hospital systems. That isn't good for anyone. That's not good for the migrant or the baby.
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And it's not good for the American people.
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Right.
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Because the hospitals are overrun, and then ultimately they have to make a decision. If we're having to pay for all of this out of pocket, how do we afford to keep the hospital open? So you've seen hospitals closing in areas that are dealing with the most people who need care. And that doesn't just hurt the illegal immigrant and their children. That hurts... the U.S. citizens have been paying in to have those services available to them and then see that that service is no longer one that can be provided close in their community because it is not a viable option anymore to run a hospital in those communities because you're being overrun with patients who don't have insurance, don't even have citizenship, and you're having under law to take care of all their emergency situations, which would be many in the case of a pregnancy, even a
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any a relatively easy pregnancy you're talking about spending probably uh when the federal government reimburses it a normal kind of thing probably close to six figures yeah let's uh let's continue on the calls remember how much we put people through also who are getting married and become u.s citizens it's a long process when we get approved with photos and and all of this time you know it's not like something that we do so quickly It's not you get married all of a sudden. You have to go through this sort of rigorous process. So it's not dissimilar to what's happening right now. Let's go ahead, though, continue on John's calling in North Carolina on Line 3. Hey, John, I know you're about to call, but just keep it quick because we're going to try to get to a couple more calls.
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Yes.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah, so I think y'all are doing great work. I started watching y'all back when y'all started defending Trump and all the prosecutions against him and everything was going down. And everything's been moving real quickly the last couple of months, but it seems like The New York appellate court decision has fallen to the wayside. And with all these new people looking to bring business to the United States since Trump came into office, I'm sure they're looking at New York to see what they're going to end up doing with this case because nobody wants to bring business.
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We know that companies have looked at these blue states that said no more. We're going to take the majority of our workers and put them in red states. So whether that's places like Tennessee or Texas or Florida that have benefited from that in South Carolina and basically these solid red states, that is being done. Second, I would say to that case is a civil case. So that will move forward. through a regular process with President Trump's attorneys through appeals to have that overturned. So that case is far from over. What you saw closed out were criminal cases. And that's different than civil cases. And it's a civil case when you're talking about economic fines. So that's where the cases in New York, they haven't, in that in that space, which is Letitia James and the Attorney General's cases, is different than Alvin Bragg and why he had to give up his cases. These cases, again, they can move forward. They will be defended by the president's team. And ultimately, I do think he will win. But at the same time, I don't think it has to be an impediment to his presidency at all. And it shouldn't be on the top of his mind.
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All right, let's go ahead real quickly. Let's go to Kay in Maryland on Line 6. Watch it on YouTube. Wrap us up for the day. Kay, you're on the air.
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Oh, thank you. Oh, God bless you, Jay Sekulow and team. I'm so glad that you guys are still hanging in there. I was telling the guy I was talking to, I hope I remember everything I said, being called an extremist because I voted for Trump. And I'm a black American in a blue state. And just working for the government and them just pushing me out and not let me get what it's due. And then my taxes being up and yin and yang. I don't know if I should buy food or gas or stay home and not go to work because I couldn't afford it. I feel like what's good for the goose is good for the game. If they've been sending money to foreign countries that hate us, that want to destroy us and take our nation from us and take God out of everything, then we should be able to do the same thing. I feel like people like you, We should be able to get similar sex for what they did in COVID. I think every American that has been paying taxes for decades deserve a million dollars. Every American family, I'm talking about true Americans that love God and love the people here. They want to do the right thing. And also, if they could give millions of dollars to, what is that? what's that guy over there in ukraine and to uh the uh wherever they want to send it and then they're going to tell us that oh this billion dollars in the uh deficit god dang honey we've been paying for that for years to other people and they start wars to keep money going for that we deserve to have that kind of money and people that are not cutting you off we are purely out of time and thank you so much for your call and your comment no we appreciate it so much
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Thank you for your support of the ACLJ. I encourage you all to do that as well. Go to ACLJ.org slash champions. Become a monthly donor. We appreciate you doing that right now. You have seen what just the last 48 hours has already been for the attacks, essentially the lawfare attacks, Jordan.
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And you know that your ACLJ is well positioned for legal battles. We're already getting prepared for those, such as the ones we've talked about today. But the attack, again, this is just the tip of the iceberg in the legal filings. And we're already ready to go. It's going to be busy. We're going to need more attorneys. And that means more resources at the ACLJ. So I am urging you to donate today. Either become an ACLJ champion and give monthly or make a donation, a one-time donation today at ACLJ.com.
We'll hear from Congressman Mark Harris as he reflects on the ecclesiastical and spiritual health of American denominations today. Transitioning into policy analyses, the episode covers President Trump's swift activation of executive orders reversing previous administration policies, and the implications on immigration enforcement with ICE's recent apprehension of violent criminals. Concluding with Mike Berry from the American First Policy Institute, the episode dissects the significance of these executive orders and their focus on national integrity, censorship, and free speech, ensuring a thought-provoking discussion on the future of American governance.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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There's a lot of issues with reconciliation and government funding that we're working through. These are healthy family discussions, not just inside the House Republican Conference, but between the House and Senate Republicans. And that dialogue is going very well. The discussions are going very well.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson earlier today discussing the way forward on Republicans using the budgetary tool known as reconciliation to advance conservative priorities. Reconciliation circumvents the 60 vote threshold required in the Senate. Welcome to Washington Watch and thanks for tuning in. on this Wednesday. We'll be joined in just a moment by Missouri Senator Josh Hawley for an update on those Republican discussions in the Senate, as well as his call for President Trump to pardon the peaceful pro-life protesters sentenced to prison under the Joe Biden Department of Justice. And if you missed this yesterday, brace yourself. It's causing quite a stir. The inaugural prayer service at the National Cathedral has angered many, and rightfully so.
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And as you told the nation yesterday, you have felt the providential hand of a loving God. In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country. We're scared now.
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I'm scared after that. That was Bishop Marianne Edgar Buddy lecturing President Trump on his immigration policies and biological gender issues. We're going to talk about it with North Carolina Congressman and Pastor Dr. Mark Harris a little bit later.
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Also, President Trump is moving quickly to secure the border. And just yesterday, in the last 24 hours, ICE arrested over 308, 308 serious criminals. Some of them were murderers. Some of them were rapists. Some of them raped a child. Some were a sexual assault of a child. So ICE is doing their job, and they're prioritizing just as the president said they would. So ICE is performing excellent right now out in the field, and they're going to continue every day.
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That was Border Czar Tom Homan on Fox this morning. To weigh in on the topic, Texas Senator John Cornett joins us later. Plus, the Trump team is rolling out executive orders in rapid succession, addressing everything from transgender military policy, male-female definitions in federal programs, DEI to the State Department's one-flag policy. We'll unpack the most significant of these with Mike Berry, Executive Director of the Center for Litigation at the American First Policy Institute. And finally, as we move into these first 100 days, we've created a brand new resource for you. It's the First 100 Days Toolkit. It helps you track campaign promises as they become policy. It provides contact information so that you can take the necessary action when required, and trust me, it will be required. It also includes prayer points for how you can pray for government policy and our government leaders that make that policy. You can find it all on the Stand Firm app. Go to the App Store, download the Stand Firm app, or simply text TOOLKIT to 67742. That's toolkit to 67742 and get started on these first 100 days. Yesterday, the Republican leaders of the House and Senate met with President Trump to discuss how to best proceed with the budget reconciliation process, which will advance the president's America First agenda. Well, it's not clear exactly what conclusions were drawn at the meeting. House Speaker Mike Johnson, as you heard earlier, said there is a strategy they're working on together and, quote, a great spirit of unity, end quote. So how close might we be to seeing an agreed upon approach, whether it's one or two bill strategy? Well, join me now to discuss this and much more is U.S. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri, who serves on four Senate committees, including the Judiciary Committee and the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. He joins us by phone. Senator Hawley, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in. Thank you so much for having me. So let's first talk about reconciliation. What are you hearing? Are we on the path to unity between the House and Senate?
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Well, we've got to be because in order to get anything done here, Tony, the houses have to agree. And my view is we need to move on this as quickly as possible. And I would just say that whatever President Trump wants to do, there's a lot of talk in Washington about is it one bill, is it two bills. Look, let's just look to the president here for direction, and let's get this thing going. What you don't want is a bunch of congressmen and senators sitting around staring at each other for months on end, and then we get to the end of the spring, and it's like, gee, we haven't done anything. We just can't afford that. There is too much to clean up. There is too much need to address. We've got to turn around this country and do that. We've got to move fast. And so my plea is to leadership, hey, get your ducks in a row here and let's get going. Let's reopen energy production. Let's secure the border. Let's get criminals off of our streets. Let's get back to the president's agenda that he campaigned on and start enacting it into law.
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You know, people look at the president having a four year term. But in reality, his most impactful time is really in the first year because you have midterm elections two years into his four years. And in about a year, you're going to have members starting to look at reelection. And so they become very distracted. So now's the time to act, as you pointed out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. The time is vital. Every second counts. What we've lived through for the last four years, there is so much to undo. You think about what they have done to law-abiding Americans. You think about the cases that have been brought against pro-lifers, the cases that have been brought against parents at school board meetings. You look at the regulations that they have tried to impose on believers, as well as on our economy. I mean, there is so much to turn around, Tony. We just don't have any time to spare. And that's why I say that It's time for the Senate and the House to have their esoteric debates about how should we structure this package, whatever. They just need to come to a bottom line and get going on it because the country is waiting for them to deliver.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you have a preference, one bill, two bills?
SPEAKER 16 :
Nope, I don't. My view is that whatever the president is comfortable with, we know what priorities need to go in these bills. We know it's got to be reopen American energy production. get people back to work, bring those jobs back to this country, shut down the border, and start deporting the criminal illegals. This isn't hard. The president's been crystal clear on what he wants. These are certainly the things that those of us who ran in this last election ran on. So let's get them done. Let's enact them into law, ASAP.
SPEAKER 03 :
Senator, let's talk about, you talked about pro-lifers being prosecuted, even persecuted under the Biden administration. There were 30 convictions under the FACE Act, the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, that was enacted by Bill Clinton back in the 90s, I think 1994. You're calling on the president to pardon, I think there's 21 still being held in prison, and most of these are grandmothers who were convicted of praying out in front of abortion clinics. You're calling on the president to pardon them, release them, get them out of prison. Have you heard anything on that request?
SPEAKER 16 :
I haven't, but I'm hopeful that the president will act on this immediately. I mean, these are people who are unjustly in prison, Tony. It's not even that they're folks who made a mistake, but at least it was nonviolent. That's not it. These are people who I believe committed no crime at all. The First Amendment protects your right to pray in a public space. It protects your right to demonstrate in a public space. And these are people who were singled out by the last administration, the most anti-Christian administration in our country's history. They were singled out to, frankly, be terrorized using lawfare to make a point, to try to silence all the rest of us, to try to put everybody who's a person of faith in fear of speaking out and exercising your faith and your freedoms in public. And so, Tony, these convictions are unjust. The application of the law to them in this way was unjust. And I hope the president will very soon pardon these folks and get them out of prison. As you said, 20 plus are still in prison right now. It's just it's wrong.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And I mean, several of these pro-life activists are in their mid to late 70s, and they've received multi-year sentences for their protest. And of course, the president pardoning those who were a part of the January 6th. protest. I mean, again, these were all peaceful. These are not people that engage in any type of violent behavior. And as you said, they were simply exercising their First Amendment rights, which the FACE Act has made criminal. And so that's actually the next step, Senator, is to eliminate this federal law known as the FACE Act.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And what is particularly grotesque about all of this, Tony, is that in the same time period that While the Biden administration was going after and singling out these good Americans, these believing Christians to try to make examples of them, churches were being literally firebombed. Pregnancy care centers were being attacked. Their workers were being harassed. Their places of work were vandalized, burned. And what did the Biden administration do about that? Nothing. Not a thing. So you can see the abuse of the law. And you're right about the FACE Act. It has been used for decades now and never more so than in the last four years. It has been used as a weapon of intimidation against believing Americans— particularly pro-life Christians. It has been used against them. It has been applied unequally, unfairly from day one. And this has just got to stop.
SPEAKER 03 :
Senator, I want to step back from just, you know, this immediate application of the pardons. And I would agree that, you who were peacefully protesting outside the Capitol or at an abortion clinic, those who did not engage in violence. Now, I have some concerns about those who actually broke the law by engaging in violence. But what we're seeing here is It's a radical change from administration to administration. It's like we've lost a common ground of truth and decency in our country and fair application of the law. And so you've got Biden pardoning people. You've got Trump pardoning people. It's like you have to wait for a president to get justice. That says there's something wrong with our system.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, it's really worrisome. It speaks to the loss of the rule of law, Tony, because as you know, I mean, the whole point of the rule of law is it's blind as to the individual characteristics of a person. The law is not supposed to look on you and say, oh, you're a Christian? Well, in that case— That means you don't have any First Amendment rights. You're a Christian. You want to pray in public? No, you can't do that. Oh, but you're a secular liberal? Sure, go ahead. You want to assault a cop? That's fine. We won't charge you at all. That is not what the law is supposed to do. It's supposed to say here is the rule. It's neutral. We apply it fairly to everybody. And, Tony, you're right. That has not happened yet. And particularly in the last four years, we have seen the unequal, unfair application of the law like I never thought possible in this country. And to me, this is one of the most important things President Trump and his Justice Department now can do is to reverse those injustices and going forward to say, we're going to get back to just following the law. We're going to put criminals behind bars. We're going to protect law-abiding folks, and we're going to stop this persecution of of Christians and others who have the temerity to stand up and to challenge people in power and the secularists.
SPEAKER 03 :
Senator, it's going to require more. It's the first step, obviously, to correct the injustices in the Justice Department. But this is a whole-of-society problem in that we've got to raise our expectations of the rule of law, and we've got to live under the rule of law, and it begins with self-government or our system doesn't work.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's exactly right. That's exactly correct. And we've got to get back to the place where we can expect. that whoever is in power, whatever party it is, whoever's in the majority, is going to apply the laws evenly and fairly. And as you say, we don't have to look to a president to say, well, gosh, if my guy doesn't win, then I might really be in trouble. I mean, that's not America. That's not the rule of law. And of course, as Christians, we really understand that, because you look at the idea of the rule of law, scriptural, of course, going back, founded in the Old Testament, where the principle of proportionality is set out. That's what eye for eye is, is that the punishment must be proportional to crime, is that you don't single out people because you dislike them, that you treat them fairly because our God is just. And as Christians, we really ought to be the ones carrying the banner and say, we need reform here. We need the fair rule of law.
SPEAKER 03 :
Senator, we've got to leave it there, but we'll pick up that conversation later. Thanks for joining us. Stick with us, folks.
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Welcome back to this Wednesday edition of Washington Watch. Good to have you with us. A couple of legislative updates earlier today. In fact, I should have brought this up with Senator Hawley, but we were focused on something else. The cloture motion on the Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act in the Senate failed 52 to 47. So that that measure will not go through. The House is going to be voting on it later today. in the week. Also today, the House has passed the Lakin-Riley Act. That is the first measure dealing with border security that will be on its way to the president and will be signed into law this week. Well, yesterday, the National Prayer Service at the Washington National Cathedral was intended to be a moment of spiritual reflection as President Trump began his second term. Instead, the event was overshadowed by what many have called the disgraceful and out-of-line words of Bishop Marianne Edgar Buddy. who used the pulpit to push her own woke agenda and deliver a politically charged attack on the administration's immigration and transgender policies. Her remarks, framed as a plea for mercy, were widely seen as a partisan critique rather than a genuine call for unity. Here's a clip of what she said. Play clip number six, please.
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In the name of our God, I ask you, to have mercy upon the people in our country. We're scared now. There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican, and Independent families, some who fear for their lives.
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You know, I think she might do well if she actually just started reading the Bible. All right, joining me now to discuss this, Congressman Mark Harris, former pastor, actually, he's still a pastor, and former FRC team member who was in the cathedral as this unfolded. He represents the 8th Congressional District of North Carolina, and he joins us now. Congressman Mark Harris, welcome to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, Tony, it's great to see you today.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, you know, my issue is the problem was not in the pew that she was preaching to. It was behind the pulpit. The pulpit is supposed to have a prophetic voice. Her voice was pathetic in that she totally deviated from the truth of Scripture.
SPEAKER 15 :
No question. I can't tell you what a just wet blanket that that threw over the whole event. I mean, honestly, there was a lot of things that I didn't necessarily care for that were part of Other parts of it. But when she started her sermon, if you will, and went on through it, I kind of started feeling like this was going in a bad direction. And then it was like she just addressed the president. I mean, she just went right after him with these statements that were just unfounded. I mean, almost like allegations of that he is breeding fear in the hearts of every person. It was just ridiculous. And listen, everybody that was sitting around me, other members of Congress, as we watched all of this unfold, we were horrified that this had happened. And it was certainly the conversation as we left there.
SPEAKER 03 :
So let's step back for just a moment, though. What do you think this really says about the health of, and I know this is Episcopal Church, but it is a mainline denomination. What does that tell us about the spiritual vitality or health of the mainline denominations in our country?
SPEAKER 15 :
You talked about it before, and there's many of our churches, many of our denominations, that we've lost and to a certain extent that are going to have to be reclaimed if possible. We're going to have to go in and share the truth of the gospel. The only thing that can reclaim them is for there to be a spiritual awakening. We've talked about that again and again. And we saw it yesterday, just lived out before the whole nation. And in what had been an incredible period of the inauguration, the tone of everything, the president's inaugural address, the rallies, everybody felt really positive about going in and I was invited to go to a prayer service. And I was excited to, we traveled on a bus and then went as congressmen and women together. And for it to turn into this was just very disheartening. And I can tell you, I just came off the floor of the U.S. House. A few moments ago, we had votes, as you referenced, just past the Lake and Riley bill, and in the process had an opportunity to talk to Representative Burkine of Missouri, who is drafting at this very moment A resolution, a sense of Congress resolution that is going to speak clearly to the distortions of Scripture that happened yesterday as part of this event. There's a lot of questions that I have, like, how did this happen? How was she chosen to bring the sermon? I really have questions like that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Because, I mean, she invoked these themes of mercy and compassion and then went on to say that the president's view of a position, policy position, of upholding the law that keeps illegals from coming into the country, many of them being exploited, is somehow not compassionate. And then recognizing what Scripture teaches in Matthew chapter 19, that male that God created male and female. I mean, she, she says that upholding the law and aligning with scripture is somehow not showing mercy and compassion. I mean, how do you, that's upside down.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. You can't square that. You just can't.
SPEAKER 03 :
What, I mean, as you, as you said, the, um, Congress is going to look at how this happened. This is kind of tradition going back, I think, to the 30s where the National Cathedral has been the place for this prayer service. But I do think, Mark, and you've been talking about this, you've been working for this, is for the Bible-believing pastor, the pulpit of America has to become focused on proclaiming that truth with a prophetic zeal if we're to turn this thing around.
SPEAKER 15 :
We've got to stand on the principles of the inerrant word of God. And that's where the bulk of people that I was with yesterday would have expected or at least hoped for in that prayer service. Maybe would it be my first prayer service like that as a congressman? Maybe first inauguration in that sense that I attended as a congressman. Maybe I was naive of what to expect, but I certainly did not expect it to take a turn to be such a distortion of the word of God. And quite frankly, in poor taste to put the president in that position. And quite frankly, I think he handled it well. I think it's important for him to recognize that what she did to him does not represent what people of faith across this country are holding to.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, it's pretty bad when you go to a prayer service and you've got to go out to go to a prayer service to make you get things right. All right, Mark, thanks for being with us. Stick with us, folks. We're back after this.
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Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Council here in Washington, D.C. Behind me is one of the most recognizable buildings in all the world, the U.S. Capitol. What does it stand for? Well, most people say government. But do you know the Bible talks about four institutions of government? Do you know what they are? And do we have a republic or a democracy? Well, what do you say? Also, what about this thing, separation of church and state? Does that mean Christians shouldn't be involved in government? Guess what? We address those issues and more in our new God and Government course. I invite you to join us to see what the historical record and the Bible has to say about government. Join us for God and Government. This is Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Good to have you with us. Be sure and get the first 100-day toolkit, text TOOLKIT to 67742. That way you can stay abreast of what's happening and how you can be involved, all right, all at your fingertips. So text TOOLKIT to 67742. Yesterday, President Trump's first full day in office, and it was a full day. Well, immigration authorities have already begun executing the president's deportation plan based on his executive orders and other authorities granted to him as president, arresting over 300 illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes, including murder and rape. Trump's border czar, Tom Holman, says that they are concentrating on the worst first, those who are public safety threats and national security threats. And what else does the plan entail? Well, joining me now to discuss this is Senator John Cornyn of Texas, who serves on five Senate committees, including the Judiciary Committee and the Select Committee on Intelligence. Senator Cornyn, welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to see you. Thank you, Tony. Good to be with you. All right. A burst. I mean, this is a shock and all as the president is coming in with everything loaded and ready to go. I have to ask this question. I think a lot of people are thinking about this, Senator, as 300 have been arrested and these are rapists, murderers. Why were they loose to begin with?
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Well, it boggles my mind, but the Biden administration had this idea that you didn't need any kind of limitations on people coming across the border. They basically released anybody and everybody that showed up, whether they claimed asylum or not. And unfortunately, this open borders resulted and the volume of people coming across overwhelmed the border patrol to the point that probably around two million gotaways came across. So with the Biden policies welcoming people who showed up and claimed asylum or otherwise escaped, to turn themselves in to authorities. The two million gotaways, you have to believe they were up to no good. And unfortunately, they included a lot of the people that you just referred to that Mr. Homan and Immigration Customs Enforcement picked up yesterday.
SPEAKER 03 :
But they obviously knew their whereabouts. They knew they existed. They knew they were here. This means the Biden administration had that same information. They knew that as well.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. Unfortunately, the Biden administration discouraged any sort of cooperation with local law enforcement. As you know, many times individuals who are in the country illegally are picked up for other crimes, whether it's DUI, DWI or something else, domestic violence and the like. And they're required to notify ICE and ICE will then come pick them up. But if the local law enforcement agencies don't cooperate, SO-CALLED SANCTUARY CITIES, THEN THERE'S NO WAY FOR ICE TO KNOW THEY'RE THERE AND TO COME PICK THEM UP. PLUS, ICE HAS REALLY BASICALLY BEEN NEUTERED AS A RESULT OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION POLICIES. blows my mind. But I think President Trump is is bringing common sense, something that's not that common around here in Washington, D.C., back to the issue. And I'm glad to see this early start.
SPEAKER 03 :
So walk us through this, Senator Cornyn, the best you know, and I know you've had conversations with the president administration. How is this going to unfold in the days going forward?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I think Mr. Holman, who's been put in charge of repatriating or deporting people who are not legally here in the first place, and I assume they will go through some sort of prioritization schedule, and that includes the worst of the worst, some of whom we've seen. But there are thousands of people who have committed crimes, who have been convicted of those crimes, who are in the United States in various places. So I think it's going to be a very intensive effort to try to locate them and try to get them returned out of the United States into their home country. This is really the first step. But I think this also sends a message that there are consequences associated with coming to the United States illegally, something that the Border Patrol tells me is absolutely essential to establishing deterrence to prevent people from coming in the first place, assuming they're otherwise law abiding. But I think this is going to be a long, long haul. And as as I said, we're just getting started.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, speaking of deterrence, based on executive orders that the president has signed, one regarding invasion at the southern border and national security issues, he's deployed up to 1,500 additional active duty troops to the southern border, which I'm sure Texas appreciates. What will their role be at the border?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, there are some limitations on what the military can do under existing law, but primarily what it will do is to free up the Border Patrol and Customs and Border Protection that are expressly authorized by law to deal with illegal immigration. It will free up some of those resources. Due to the sheer volume of people coming across the border during the Biden administration, those federal officials were overwhelmed. And that necessitated the Governor Abbott and others deploying National Guard there to help with the Border Patrol, just to provide some basic personnel to deal with housing, transportation and and things like that. So they will provide essential manpower. But we're going to have to to to train and hire and train more immigration customs enforcement officials under the Trump administration and build detention facilities. So no more catch and release, which was the subject matter of another one of President Trump's executive orders.
SPEAKER 03 :
Senator, we just have about 20 seconds left, but I'm assuming that Congress is going to lean in because the president can't do it all by executive order.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right. Well, we will this afternoon, 430. The House will pass the Lake and Riley Act, which we passed here in the Senate. And that will help prioritize people who have committed crimes in the United States. Right. Put them on the fast track. That's a good. All right. Thank you, Senator.
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As President-elect Donald Trump's second inauguration approached, a powerful prayer gathering took place in Washington, D.C., drawing Christians together to intercede for our nation.
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The church does not recapture its prophetic zeal. It will become an irrelevant social club without moral or spiritual authority. God help us to recapture that prophetic zeal.
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This is not an inter-religious service. We will not be praying to Allah or Buddha. We'll be praying to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We're talking to God, a holy, righteous, just God from a nation that desperately needs the touch of this God.
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We've not been a secular nation. We don't want to be a secular nation. We've been a nation built around God, and our history shows that.
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Well-versed and Family Research Council led the inauguration praise and prayer convocation, urging attendees to pray for the incoming presidential administration and for the church to embody holiness and righteousness, champion biblical justice, and proclaim truth prophetically.
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Lord, may this not be the end, but may this be the beginning, this convocation, this gathering. And may we commit to pray and to seek you and to walk in your word and in your ways. In Jesus' name, amen. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. As we move into the first 100 days, we've created a brand new resource. It's the First 100 Day Toolkit. Now, it helps you track promises as they become policy. provides contact information so that you can take action when necessary. It also includes prayer points to inform your intercession for government and for our leaders. You can get it at the Stand Firm app, or you can text TOOLKIT to 67742. That's TOOLKIT to 67742. Our word for today comes from Zephaniah, where the prophet announces God's judgment upon Judah because of their idolatry. I will bring distress on mankind because they have sinned against the Lord. Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the Lord. Now, have you noticed how everything is measured by its impact on the economy? Well, here's a newsflash. A strong economy will not stand up to the wrath of the Lord. But chapter two holds the remedy. Gather together. Yes, gather, O shameless nation, before the decree takes effect, before the day passes away like chaff, before there comes upon you the burning anger of the Lord, before there comes upon you the day of the anger of the Lord. Seek the Lord. all you humble of the land and do his just commands. Seek righteousness, seek humility. Perhaps you may be hidden on the day of the anger of the Lord. So here it is. Seek the Lord for he's full of mercy. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. Well, over the last couple of days, we've been looking at the executive orders that President Trump has signed so far since returning to office. It is, well, some describe it as shock and awe as so many of them are coming out. They were clearly ready for this moment. Now, blue state attorneys general have been going through them and planning lawsuits to counter whatever they can as they go through them. And, you know, as we go through them, we're actually pretty pleased with some of the things we see. primarily because they're common sense. With me now to further analyze some of President Trump's executive orders is Mike Berry, executive director of the Center for Litigation at the American First Policy Institute. Prior to joining AFPI, Mike served on active duty as an attorney with the United States Marine Corps, was deployed to Afghanistan, also was with First Liberty, and a great friend of the Family Research Council. Mike, welcome back to Washington Watch Semper Fi. Semper Fi.
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Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, let's go through these EOs, starting with the one that rescinded executive orders and actions of the previous Biden administration. And quite frankly, there was a lot to rescind. 78, I believe. Give us some of the most notable there.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, where do we begin, Tony? I mean, let's start with none other than the Biden executive order that converted the entire federal government into a voter registration machine. If I recall, that one was executive order 14019. I know because AFPI filed a lawsuit against President Biden and his administration to try to put a stop to that executive order. And so it's great to see President Trump on day one helping to finish the job and then You know, you can go on down the list. There was the executive order under the Biden administration that permitted transgenders to serve in the military, very detrimental to military readiness, detrimental to mission accomplishment, detrimental to national security. That one is undone now under Trump's administration. And, you know, I've heard others say it, and I'll echo, that I think we saw more action in the first four hours of President Trump's second term in office than we saw in four years under President Biden. And so this is the promises that were made on the campaign trail and promises that are being delivered now that he's in office.
SPEAKER 03 :
So with one executive order, he can undo multiple executive orders from the previous administration. It does speak to the importance of legislation and statutory enactment of these policies. And I think that is a part of the focus of the incoming Trump administration. Obviously going to clean up a lot of the stuff left behind. But with the Republican House, Republican Senate, I think there'll be more of a focus on actually turning some of these initial executive orders that the Trump administration is doing into actual federal federal law.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think that's right. And really, you know, conservatives need to be keeping their eye on the calendar because really, in practical terms, we have about a two-year window to get a lot of this done because, you know, in two years from now, we're going to have midterm elections. People are going to be starting to look ahead towards the 2028 presidential election and begin thinking about that. So the window is not quite as broad as some people may think it is. And we've got to get to work now, which is why it's very encouraging to see just how ready the Trump administration has been, ready to go on day one. I've seen some commentators, when you compare it to what happened back in 2016 and when he took office in 2017, they were largely unprepared. Possibly because they weren't necessarily expecting to have won, and so it caught everybody by surprise, whether people inside the administration, but also people in Congress were maybe caught by surprise. This time around, I think we're in a much better position and much better footing to hit the ground running. We're seeing that, but I absolutely agree, Tony, that this is going to have to be a team effort, a tag team, both the administration and the Congress. Both chambers of Congress need to work with the administration to help put these policies into legislation, into law.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mike Berry, I want to dive into some of these other executive orders that were issued. But first, just to kind of play off what you said here to set the context so people better understand this. Only twice in history have we had a president who set out a term and then came back. And so you had an administration, the second administration, with full understanding of what it takes. to execute many of these things. As you said, first time, not quite ready, nor really understanding how the process worked. And then you add to that the fact that you have, we had administration for four years that was ideologically opposed. So I think that's what set the stage for this. You had black and white and you also had administration coming in that knew what to do and they wasted no time in getting it done.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And the American people spoke loudly, clearly and forcefully that it was a total repudiation of the Biden administration and their policies and their practices. And it wasn't just a delivery of the White House to President Trump, but it was also let's not. I mean, it's no small feat to also have delivered. the Senate and the House of Representatives truly giving a mandate to the governing party now, the Republican Party, to go forth and put all of these promises into fruition and into action.
SPEAKER 03 :
A couple of the issues that we've heard a lot about, felt it over the last four years, is censorship, free speech, the censorship of free speech and the weaponization of the government. How has the president already addressed those with executive orders?
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, it was, you know, I'm smiling and beaming because as I began to read the executive orders and not just look at the titles of them and to see what they were, but to get into the content of them, it's so exciting and refreshing as a constitutional First Amendment litigator myself to see things like declaring that there are only two genders. That's one of the things that President Trump did. declaring that life begins at conception because in declaring that there are only two genders, he defined the term sex as determined at conception. So this is one of the first times in American history where we're now recognizing the right to life at conception as opposed to at birth. And that's not a minor or subtle difference. That's a very significant distinction there and shift. And then you go on to telling every DEI office in the federal government, every federal agency that has a DEI office, which is probably every single one of them, you are to close your doors, shutter your windows, and stop whatever you're doing. Pens down, and we'll find something else for you to do, or you can enter the private workforce, whatever the case might be. It's creating Doge, right? The Department of Governmental Efficiency is another great one. That's something that was promised and it's been delivered. And so, I mean, we can go down the list, Tony, of probably naming off our three or five favorite EOs, but those are three that really stood out to me immediately. And oh, and then let's not forget what he did with the Department of State, right, saying that the only flag that is going to fly on our embassies or in Department of State buildings is the American flag. No longer are we going to try to virtue signal to the world with pride flags or any other type of flags. It's going to be the stars and stripes, the American flag. And what a fantastic message that sends not only to America, but to the rest of the world that America is back.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me say that's a big issue from the standpoint of even when Mike Pompeo was secretary of state, he was battling that inside the government as there were others close to the president wanting to fly the pride flag at embassies abroad. And so for the president, by executive order to to state that, I mean, that's in the in the discussion. That's what's going to happen. We're only going to have the American flag flying. Mike, anything yet on, you know, last time in 2016, in May of that first year, he issued the executive order on religious freedom. And that's something obviously that's been under attack under the Biden administration. It's something you care about if you've worked so diligently to defend in advance. Where do we stand on that issue?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think there's more good news to come on that front. None of the executive orders that have been issued thus far are explicitly or narrowly focused on religious freedom. We had the one that targets censorship and weaponization of justice. That's obviously going to touch on religious freedom but it's really focused more on free speech and and censorship issues so i anticipate that there will be uh some future executive actions whether they're via executive order or other presidential type executive actions that will continue to protect religious freedom restore the religious freedoms that we began to enjoy under the first Trump administration. One example that I think myself, you, and probably others in the veteran and service member community are paying close attention to is an executive order that restores and reinstates the service members, the tens of thousands of service members who are punished and targeted and unlawfully kicked out or otherwise adversely treated in the military for having a religious objection to Biden's COVID vaccine mandate. So I think that's one that a lot of people, myself included, are watching closely to see. We want to see what it does, what it says. And that's another one, Tony, where I think there's a lot of work that Congress can do to come side by side, shoulder to shoulder with the administration and ensure that some of those gains that are done through executive action are cemented through legislative action.
SPEAKER 03 :
Speaking of that one in particular, because I know it's personal to you and I've talked to many, many members who are still in the military who have been passed over for promotion because of this. It will because they didn't get the vaccine for religious conviction reasons. Will this set that right? Will those files that have, you know, the fitness reports that have those marks in it? How is that corrected?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, the devil is going to be in the details on that one, because that's one that I said even years ago when we first started that fight and began representing the Navy SEALs, that that's very difficult. It's hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube, as we like to say, because It's difficult to pinpoint that somebody was passed over promotion precisely because or solely because of their objection to the vaccine mandate. As you and I know and anybody in our audience who served in the military knows, the military and the bureaucracy is very, very good. at papering over and sort of whitewashing and sanitizing what we all know to be blatant discrimination. But what they'll do is to say, oh, well, your performance evaluation, you didn't score quite as high as these other people did. And that's the reason why you got passed over, not because of your refusal to get the vaccine. And we all know that that's just what we in the legal we call that proofreading. It's a pretext that's being used for what is actually the real reason is they don't want people who have sincerely held strong religious convictions and beliefs serving in the military because they're worried that when they are given an order to do something that they know is wrong, it's always people of faith are the ones that stand up and say that's wrong. We shouldn't be doing that. We can't do that. I refuse to carry out that order or I refuse to follow that order because it violates the Constitution and it violates the First Amendment. They want to kick those people out. But to answer your question, I think it can be done, but it's going to require a lot of heavy lifting. It's going to require a secretary of defense who has a backbone, who's willing to go to the mat for these service members and to say, we are going to get this done, that we will get rid of any bureaucrat
SPEAKER 03 :
who resists obstructs and tries to prevent us from restoring these service members and these veterans and i hope that we have that well mike for all the reasons that you laid out there it's so important that people of faith can serve in our nation's military because that's that's the ones we want that's the ones we want with the the the lethal power of the military in their hands because they have a moral anchor and and that's so important and that Those are the very ones that were driven out during the Biden administration. Just have about 45 seconds left, Mike. But for those that were forced out because of this, is there any way to make it right for them?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think so. I think you give them the opportunity to return if they want to. I will say I've been disheartened to hear so many of my former colleagues in uniform to say, I don't want to go back. I'm done. I'm going to move on with life and do something else. I don't trust the military anymore. That's that's a national security travesty to hear. qualified, excellent service members to say, I don't want to put on the uniform anymore because I'm ashamed of what it's become. I believe that our military still has good people. It still stands for good things. It was hijacked for four years, and we're ready to take it back. And I think if that happens, I think we will see us turn the corner, and the good people will begin to start to come back.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think, Mike, a part of that, and not through executive order, but through the administration, through Congress, is we're going to have to weed out those politically correct flag officers that enabled all of these attacks on religious freedom. Mike Berry, thanks so much for joining us. Always great to see you, my friend. Thanks for having me. All right, folks, I want to thank you for joining us as well, but we're out of time. Be sure and get the toolkit. Text TOOLKIT to 67742. Until next time, when you've prayed, when you've prepared and taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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In this episode of Rush to Reason, hosts John Rush and Andy Pate engage in a spirited dialogue over the implications of Trump's immediate actions post-inauguration. Hear their expert analysis on how Trump's fiery rhetoric might impact his base and beyond, and discover the potential effects of Biden-era policy reversals. Tune in for an exciting mix of political analysis, weather banter, and candid opinion.
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And it's Tuesday. Welcome, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. How's Andy today?
SPEAKER 03 :
Andy's doing well, and notice, I come back, and it's a beautiful day.
SPEAKER 15 :
It all works together, John. You know, for those of you that haven't been outside, temperature-wise, it's about 42 degrees, which I know sounds cold, but compared to what we've had, it's a heat wave.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it's fantastic.
SPEAKER 15 :
You can take your coat off if you want, it's that warm. Literally, it's very nice. I love it. Yes, well, we'll take this over what it's been, although cold weather coming back over the weekend, potentially more snow. Question of the day yesterday. In 1964, what was the prize motivation for Martin Luther King Jr. being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? It was for his nonviolent struggle for civil rights for the Afro-American population, which, by the way, is unlike the left of today. Yeah. Today's impossible question. What was the name of the German military's plan to invade the Soviet Union in 1941, and what did it ultimately fail to achieve? That is the question of the day today, which I would have to have looked that up, so I have no idea.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I know they attacked Russia in the winter. That was pretty stupid. Beyond that, I really don't know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Again, I would have to look that one up. All right. A lot to cover today. We'll cover all sorts of things, including, as I promoed, a lot of what Trump has done, not just today, but what he started doing even yesterday, which it's not common. I should say it's very uncommon for a president to be inaugurated, go through all of the festivities of the day, sit down then for several hours with the press, answering questions and signing executive orders on your day one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, answering all those questions while he was signing was amazing to see. I'm not sure I've ever seen that.
SPEAKER 15 :
And just talking away, he was very natural in what he was doing, very congenial, maybe is the best way to say that. I mean, and for those that maybe thought Trump looked tired earlier in the day, I think that shows you that, no, he wasn't. As I said yesterday, I looked at him at the inauguration more of, It's relief not being tired. I'm finally here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I'm not sure Trump ever tires.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I don't either.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know who he reminded me of? Because when they were asking these questions while he's signing, right? And these are mostly, mostly left-wing questions. Yes. And he was giving these short, tough guy answers. Not mean, but short, tough, to the point, no yielding. He reminded me of Tom Homan. A lot. I mean, he was talking just like Tom Holman does when people give him immigration questions. It was kind of weird. But, wow, he was great.
SPEAKER 15 :
He did great. And, again, I mentioned a lot of things yesterday in regards to the inauguration and so on. Today we're going to get into more of some of the things that he has done since. In fact, one of the things that I'll go over as soon as we come back is – The initial recisions of the executive orders, the harmful executive orders that the last president, President Biden, put in, and we won't go through every single one of these, but I think it's important to look at, number one, what are some of the initial recisions? eos that trump has done reversing those that president biden did which by the way some some of these president biden did all the way up to just like january 3rd for example or some of these are even january uh even later right yeah some of these reversals are things that biden has done just in the past couple of weeks
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it was really amazing.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which is good.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know if we'll have time later on in the show, but I thought there was a real difference between Trump's strategy in his inauguration speech, which I think came from his heart. I don't think his strategy was too great in his speech, but I thought his strategy in everything he signed was absolutely brilliant, and I think it's going to pay off huge in publicity going forward.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, I think his strategy in the inauguration speech was, all of you rotten, dirty-to-the-core individuals that are sitting behind me, this is what I'm going to do moving forward, and I don't care that I'm saying this and you're sitting next to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, he was speaking as an angry, hurt person. He was speaking purely from emotion. His speech was pure revenge. Now, did the Dems sitting behind him deserve it? Absolutely, every word. Did I personally enjoy it? Absolutely, every word. But generally, there's a reason you don't kick a dog when it's down. You're helping the dog. And so you're making the dog look sympathetic, not to the Trump base, which we are, but everybody outside it. People are looking. That speech yesterday came off as all revenge, all anger. And, you know. And basically, it put a lot of Trump supporters in this position. We, right afterward, are having to tell people, you do realize their supporters tried to kill him. You do realize Biden just spent the last few weeks trying to derail Trump's entire presidency. You do realize these people went through Mar-a-Lago. You do realize these people launched investigations against this man nationwide that they wouldn't have launched against any other human being. I mean... you realize what this man and by the way this last administration just gave pardons out to some of those very individuals andy just mentioned right they just gave they just pardoned everybody who did evil right okay look these are evil people they deserved every word do i think that it was the greatest strategy to put it in that speech now i wanted him to say it all but i would have held a lot of that for his next speech that he gave a couple hours later but
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and me personally, I don't care.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know you don't care.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the way, down the road, no offense, even in about three months, nobody's going to remember that anyways.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but YouTube lives forever. The thing is this.
SPEAKER 15 :
The things that he'll do moving forward won't matter.
SPEAKER 03 :
What I mean is this. You say the speech anyway. I'm just saying I would have done that speech a couple hours later. That was a rally speech. He was doing that... Out of bitterness and rage. And you know, you, John, you always say, make decisions with what? Your head or your heart? With your head. With your head. That speech came from his heart. That was rage. That was revenge. Now, Trump supporters want what? They want revenge. That's what they want. So Trump supporters were standing up cheering blissfully at everything he said.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the way I looked at it was not so much that way as more of, you know, it takes a lot of kahunas. To say that about the very people that are literally 10 feet away, that, by the way, he wouldn't care if he was looking at them straight in the eye. He would say the same things. But it takes a lot of cojones to do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know if it takes so much cojones. I just think it takes rage.
SPEAKER 15 :
Most wouldn't do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Donald Trump hates them. I mean, he hate, well, of course, so do I. He hates them with a personal, deep passion for what they did to him, to his family, to his home. To the country. To the country. And this was, that was a speech that was absolutely driven by rage and vengeance. And now, did they deserve it? Every word. You know, look. Absolutely. Here's what I mean. One quick thing, then we'll go to break. The signatures that he did, they're going to pay off huge in PR. Let me give you an example. He just released tons of prisoners, J6 prisoners, right? From that, we are very soon going to get what? A lot of stories from these people about how they were wrongfully treated. The reason that the Biden administration wanted to keep these people hidden was so that they wouldn't speak. Correct. That was the whole reason. Okay, now they're going to come out. They're going to be speaking, and that is going to be incredible PR for Trump and against Biden. All right. He did several other things. I won't go into it right now. Trend de Aragua, being terrorists, things like that that are going to pay off huge. Okay. There is effective PR outside your base, and then there's ineffective PR outside your base. And the basic difference is usually this. When you act with your heart, you will appeal to your base, not beyond it. When you act with your head, you can appeal to both.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and the way I look at it is he has nothing to lose, so who cares?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, he has a lot to lose. No, he doesn't. No, because he's campaigning not just for him. Right now, the campaign for Vance 28 has already begun.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, but that's so far out. No one's going to care. Trust me on that. That won't make a hell of a difference. What he did yesterday will have no difference on that. Absolutely no difference. None. You and I will have to agree to disagree. No. Because it's not going to matter.
SPEAKER 03 :
John. You're looking at it differently. No, I'm not. Because I'm looking. Yes, you are. Yeah, you're totally looking. You forget people have short memories. No, no, no. You're looking at it only as the base. And by the way, he could have been a lot worse than he was. You're looking at this purely as the base. I'm looking at this beyond the base. Beyond the base, people were infuriated by what they saw yesterday.
SPEAKER 15 :
They were infuriated. I don't care, and it won't matter moving forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know you don't care, but you're the base. You play to the base.
SPEAKER 15 :
You like the base. I am. You know where I come from on that and how I want to make sure that we're bringing everybody in as many voters as possible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Keep in mind, let me finish.
SPEAKER 15 :
By and large, the majority of Americans voted for him. By and large, the majority of Americans were rallying around what he said yesterday because they realize that's exactly what's happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, actually, no. Not every person who voted for him feels that same rage.
SPEAKER 15 :
They voted for him for a lot of reasons. Oh, I disagree with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, they voted for a lot of reasons. A lot of them just voted their pocketbook. A lot of them voted because of the incompetence they saw on the other side. A lot of them voted out of rage because they felt he was wronged.
SPEAKER 15 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. It's a real coalition that voted for him, not just one kind of rage person.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't think any of those people that voted for him would have been upset by what was said yesterday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh...
SPEAKER 15 :
I'll just say that straight up.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know if I would go that far. I know I wasn't. Look, I enjoyed it, obviously, but I'm in the Trump herd.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I think the majority of people that wanted change voted for him exactly for that, whatever their reason for change was.
SPEAKER 03 :
But the change was going to come with the stroke of a pen. I understand. The change wasn't going to come because of that speech.
SPEAKER 15 :
But they still, at the end of the day, Andy, voted for the guy that's going to make the change.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. But what happened, the change was when he did that brilliant signing. that he did later, you know, answering all these questions and doing the signing and having it announced to the crowd and the crowd going wild. That was the change. That was all the change. All his speech was was something that played only to his base and nobody else. You know, I mean, look, every Friday I do movie reviews, right? I don't do reviews for me. When I give a review, I do them for all viewers.
SPEAKER 15 :
Like I say, we'll just have to agree to disagree, and that's fine.
SPEAKER 03 :
Am I saying that this is going to cripple the Republicans for years? No. Actually, here's my prediction. Really quick, we'll go to break. My prediction is he will overcome what he did in that speech with a lot of his actions that are going to wow people and people are going to love it, and then they will forget. But do I believe the PR of the moment in that speech was good beyond the base? No, of course not.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. Enough said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
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God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Dead for us afternoon, Rush. KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Page. John, I got a question for you. As you know, Trump pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accord, thus proving there is a loving God. Okay. I just want you to know. To me, it's the greatest thing in the world. Let me ask you this. Does the Paris Climate Accord even exist without America to rob?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not enough money to make it happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you don't have us to rob. Well, if you don't have China.
SPEAKER 15 :
The UN doesn't exist without us.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you don't have China and India to cut down their smog, and if you don't have us to rob, what's the point of the Paris Climate Agreement?
SPEAKER 15 :
Milk.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sorry, fleece. I mean, those two words, that's it. Other than that, there is none. And I'm being very serious when I say that because there really is no point to it whatsoever.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Really quick here on the discussion we had before the break. John, we don't actually disagree very much. What you're basically saying is, yeah, it wasn't playing beyond the base, but it won't matter because his positive actions will overwhelm the PR of that so quickly it'll bury it into the past. I actually agree with that. I do believe his positive actions will overwhelm the effects of that speech. The only reason I would have wanted to be more magnanimous is to really twist the knife in the people you just beat come out as the good guy standing on their grave. But I still would have made the exact same speech just a couple hours later. So, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER 15 :
So really quick, some of the executive orders that were reversed, I'm not going to go through every one of these, but you'll get the underlying idea of what Trump did, not only on, you know, this wasn't just, most people think today is day one. But literally, he couldn't wait. Yeah. What I'm going to read off to you are things he did last night. Again, as Andy was speaking a moment ago, you know, signing these things, talking to the press and so on. So he has reversed these executive orders, advancing racial equity and support for underserved communities through the federal government. Again, not the proper role of government. And it's bigotry. Gone. Ensure a lawful and accurate enumeration and appointment pursuant to the decennial census. Whatever that means.
SPEAKER 03 :
What? No, wait a minute. Is this going to affect the census coming up? Because I hope so. I'm guessing we'll probably make it better. Well, we have to keep in mind, John, that places like California literally have more seats in the House because of a faulty census that actually counts illegal immigrants as people who are not citizens as citizens. Correct.
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Organizing and mobilizing the United States to provide a unified and effective response to combat COVID-19 and to provide United States leadership on global health and security. That's gone. Good. Preventing and combating discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation. Gone. Good.
SPEAKER 03 :
No more bigotry. Good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ethics commitments by executive branch personnel, whatever that means.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really quick here before you run on. I loved his line that we're going to be colorblind and merit-based.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. That's incredible. And two sexes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Two genders.
SPEAKER 03 :
That was later, though. That was the next statement.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. Protecting public health and the environment and restoring science to tackle climate crisis. Gone. In other words, no more fleecing. Right. Because that's really what that means. That's all it is, is robbery. Let me expand on that. What it means is we're going to cut funding to a lot of you that are in that world that are out to prove something that doesn't exist in the first place. So the reality is, guess what, guys, go get another job. Basically what that says. You know, it really infuriates. Oh, gosh, yes. Because let's face it, anybody that's on that side is only on that side because they're funded to be on that side.
SPEAKER 03 :
Look, how right can your side be when you have to silence the other side for you to win?
SPEAKER 15 :
Good one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Their side, I mean, they're in trouble right now because big tech is opening up much more free expression. Let's just say that. I'm not saying big tech has gone to the right. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Right? Yep. They've got a real problem on their side right now because eight years ago when he first took office, they owned all of big tech and could completely control the narrative around his presidency. They can't do that this time. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really quick meaning, and we had some conversation on this yesterday with some different callers and guests and so on, meaning that there's theory out there, and I can't really argue with this, that big tech wouldn't have switched gears and come over to this side if they thought the left had a chance of winning 2028.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's very possible.
SPEAKER 15 :
In other words, they want to be on the winning team moving forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think it's twofold. I do agree with that. Let me add something to it, though. I believe big tech was shocked at the arm twisting behind the scenes that they received from the Biden administration. I mean, look, big tech already wanted to suppress right wing speech and they were doing it. And yet they were ramping that up to an eight. And the Biden administration wanted them to wrap that up to an 11 or 100. To 100, exactly. And so they were stunned that people on their quote unquote side were using power plays and shouting at them in profanities on the phone. I don't think that these people are going to look at the left quite the same.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree. Next one, revision of civil immigration enforcement policies and priorities. Yeah, we already know what he did along those lines.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it's beautiful.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ensuring an equitable pandemic response and recovery. I hate that term equitable, by the way, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Equitable. Pandemic response. In other words, you're going to use your pandemic response to equalize outcomes?
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, there's several more of these in a row that really he just got rid of what has to do with COVID-19 because the reality is we don't need to be dinking with that period right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, of course not. And by the way, the reason that they wanted to push that was because people in the black and especially the black community suffered more from COVID for various reasons. And so what they wanted to do is use the money, then pour more money into a community that votes more for the left.
SPEAKER 15 :
And protecting this is when he reversed protecting the federal workforce, whatever that meant that Biden did on January 22nd of 2021. What protection do they need, Andy?
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm not sure how he was protecting them. I mean, unionized? I thought they were already unionized for the most part. Or protect them from... That one's reversed. I don't know.
SPEAKER 15 :
I got nothing. President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology kind of goes back to what we were talking to just a little bit earlier, tackling the climate crisis at home and abroad. That's another one he reversed, strengthening Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act. Yay. Hallelujah. Yeah. Because they don't need strengthened. No, they don't. They actually need dismantled and redone.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, he won't do that, unfortunately, but I would like it.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I wish he could. And, you know, that one's, again, that's a... He had to get elected. Yeah, that's a larger... topic that you've got to get a lot more people on your side to be able to tackle that one. Let's say it that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think that with things like Doge, if we cut out all the fat in all the other areas, then it will shine a brighter light on the fact that entitlements are spending us into the grave? Do you think maybe they're kind of going at it that way?
SPEAKER 15 :
That wouldn't be a bad way of looking at it. Let's clean up a lot of these other areas, for example, and I won't get into it. But he's even going after a lot of wasteful use of either government leases or buildings that we own that aren't being used, buildings that are even beyond repair and so on. Trump just wants to eliminate all that stuff, sell it off, get rid of it, be done with it. Yeah, I agree. Which, by the way, I don't care if we take a loss on it, get rid of it. If we're not using it, why keep it? I totally agree. Get rid of it. So to your point, yes, that could very well shine a brighter light on some of these other issues. Let me just go through a few more of these. This one's interesting. Establishment of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Yeah, we don't need... The White House, which, by the way, you have to read the underlying things of what that really means and so on, because really, at the end of the day, Andy, that's not what it says it is.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I mean, usually things like that just become a bunch of leftism. Correct. Honestly.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Promoting access to voting, that one has to do with the federal government encouraging registration to vote and so on and doing it in ways that, frankly, probably make the left have a leg up on the right. Yes. Is what that means. So that goes away as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Every American, simply by being an American, is encouraged to vote. You don't need the government going into their preferred communities to try to pump up votes. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Establishment of the White House Gender Policy Council that is now abolished, guaranteeing an educational environment free from discrimination on the basis of sex, including sexual orientation and gender identity. Again, that goes back with the last one we just talked about. Again, you look at a lot of these executive orders, by the way, that happened early in Biden's Not all of them on the first day. Some of these are rolling into even like April and May of 2021. But a lot of these, Andy, literally it's like, OK, most of them have to do with gender, have to do with protecting federal workers, have to do with climate change, have to do with budgetary issues. And a lot of it is DEI crap.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I guess along with those, energy and the border. Correct. Basically, we're going to end the invasion. We're going to unleash American energy, real energy, not this fake stuff, real energy, and we are going to stop bigotry in the United States government.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. I like it. Right. So, you know, again, go through. There is a gosh, I don't know how many of these executive orders of Biden he reversed on the on, you know, on literally last night. You know, not even I guess you could call yesterday day one. But most people would call today day one because usually go through the inauguration of the parties afterwards and so on. But. Trump did a lot of this literally on like half day one or however you want to call it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, Trump, he just can't wait. He had an itchy signing finger. OK, he had to go. Let me ask you a question. You can answer this after the break. Just a big question. Would you mind going through some of these after the break and just saying how you think these are going to play with the public going forward, six months out, a year out, two years out? Okay.
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Okay, before we continue on, one thing I just want to throw in before I forget, not to get on our high horse or anything along those lines, but I think it's always fair to recognize those things that we have talked about that, frankly, came true the way that we said, because there's always... conspiracies and all sorts of things running around that really we do our best to try to dispel one of those conspiracies all the way through you know up to the election once kamala you know once it was pretty much determined that she wasn't going to win and once we got to election day and she didn't win there was all these theories rolling around that they would still make her president before the end of the term, and just so they could say, even if it was for a few days or a week, that we've got our first black female president. And I said all along, and so did Andy, that no, because of the rift between the Bidens and Harris— Right. That that's not going to happen. Jill's never going to allow her into the White House. She's never going to have that opportunity, period. And that was part of the deal in the first place they made in Joe backing out of the race and allowing her to enter the race as the presidential candidate. We said all along that because of that rift between those two, it's just not going to happen. And there was a lot of you out there listening. Sorry, I'm just going to say it as it is. A lot of you listening that didn't agree with that, that thought for sure they would make her president even for a short time. And it didn't happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it didn't happen. And you know why, John? Because they made the deal for Joe to reluctantly step aside and get out of the race. Let me tell you something. That's where the giving ended. Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
There wasn't going to be any more giving. There was no more deals. That was it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, but Joe would want to make history afterward by giving us the first black female president. No, Joe doesn't care about history. You know, here's something that the left doesn't seem to understand. Look, you've got two kinds of people on the left. You've got your activists who are down for the cause, and then you've got your users. Right. Okay? We have some of this on the right, too. Joe's a user.
SPEAKER 15 :
He only cares about what he can get from... It's the Biden crime family, so you're right. Right. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, we talk about the state party here a lot, right? There are some who are absolutely down for the cause with what they're all about. Attack open primaries no matter what. They're activists. They really believe in it. Dave Williams doesn't believe in it. He doesn't care. Dave Williams only wants what's good for Dave Williams.
SPEAKER 15 :
He's Joe Biden, actually. He is Joe Biden. And I've said it all along. He only cares about himself, just like Joe only cares about himself. And everything we said about what would happen all the way up to Inauguration Day, which, by the way, exactly what we said came true. I want to remind all of you of that, because some of you out there were pretty headstrong on the fact that they would somehow shift things around. She would be president, blah, blah, blah. And we said all along, no, that's not going to happen. And it didn't.
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why would he... He was done with his giving. He had fulfilled his end of the deal. His bargain was done. Yeah. There's no tip. I'm not going to give a tip afterward, okay? I paid. I'm done.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's exactly how... And again, he and Jill looked at that from day one, and I've said all along... They don't like common law. And a lot of this has come from Charlie, because he reads a lot of inside things that I really honestly don't have time to read, so he gives me a lot of info. The riff... between Kamala and Jill is, as Donald Trump would say, huge. Yes, it is. It is major. They do not like one another at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, and it's not just personal, but it is personal, but I'm going to go a step further, okay? It's also ideological. We have to keep in mind that up until his presidency, Joe Biden was never regarded as a left-wing extremist. He was bitter because he had to take on Kamala to quote unquote balance his ticket. Good point, Andy. Which would energize the hard left and also put a woman of color. And here Joe Biden is saying, look, I'm having to have a quota hire as my VP. That's how he saw her. I guarantee you.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think you're right. I would agree with you on that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
He had people I guarantee he would have preferred to have, and I guarantee he had never been part of the hard left in his party. He had never been part of the... He was in the Bill Clinton wing of the party all the way, okay? Always. Yeah, he had those left-wing tendencies, but he'd never been this hardcore, radical, wacko left-winger. And he knew that when he brought her on the ticket to satiate that part of the base, he was going to have to spend the next four years of his presidency doing everything they wanted. And he did it, and it blew up his presidency. And he was bitter. You don't think that Joe Biden left after four years thinking, my gosh, half the stuff I did wasn't even what I wanted to do. And I blew up my entire presidency.
SPEAKER 15 :
So do you think he's saying, I told you so, to the party now?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, he is. Joe Biden was never this open borders, let's have a full invasion of our country guy. He was never like that. He became like that for them. He opened up the border and had a full invasion, which is something he had never advocated his entire life. He never believed in more than two genders. he never supported i agree with you he never supported trans athletes beating up women in the boxing ring he never supported boys well except in his own life he never supported men being in women's locker rooms but you know what i'm saying i know what you mean okay he never supported any of this stuff john that wacko extremist but he let them do it why because they were in control of his party and they would oust him if he didn't and he was bitter and at the end He's looking back on a presidency and watching Donald Trump excoriate him in his inauguration speech.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can't argue that. And by the way, that's got to be really hard. To add another layer to that, it is the Biden crime family. Joe definitely was... A criminal. Yeah, he was definitely... on the move to do as much destruction to America as he could, but through other ways than what Andy just said. He was doing it via China and all sorts of other deals that were happening through the back door, but not in the way Andy, you just mentioned.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. He was doing it through selling out America to foreign interests.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
For his own wallet.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. But he never wanted America to be turned into crazy land.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can't disagree with you on that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
He was never for that. They ruined his presidency. I guarantee you, Joe Biden, who was sitting two seats away from Kamala, was looking at this and thinking to himself, you and your people, Kamala, destroyed my presidency.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, you cost us.
SPEAKER 03 :
And now I'm watching this guy talk about how he's going to take a sledgehammer to everything I did, and here's the thing. Half of what I did, about half of what I did, was because of you, and I didn't even want to do it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can't argue that.
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I can't argue that. I think that's a really good analogy, and I think it's why there are times where... And bear with me here, because they are quote unquote enemies, you know, Trump and Biden. But on the same token, I think there's times where Biden wishes it wasn't that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. I think he has more in common with Trump a lot of the time than he does with Kamala.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which, by the way, is why he said, welcome home. What lefty would have said that to Trump during the inauguration? None. None. That proves your point, I think, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because she would have never said that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Right. Well, there are a lot of people who think that Joe and Jill voted for Trump.
SPEAKER 15 :
That one would not shock me.
SPEAKER 03 :
That would not surprise me at all.
SPEAKER 15 :
That would not surprise me one bit, Andy. Because I think they have utter disdain for her as well. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
And not just for her.
SPEAKER 15 :
Not just on the level I was talking about in regards to the White House and so on, but just in general, period. And by the way, I think that happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because Joe at least has a history of achievement in government.
SPEAKER 15 :
She does not. And by the way, I don't think that may not have been that way from day one when he was inaugurated back in 2021. But I believe that came shortly thereafter when they also realized, oh, holy cow, we brought on one of the dumbest people on the planet to be my VP.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Am I right? Oh, totally. And on top of that, John, keep in mind, she was forced on him. Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
But my point is, even after all of that, where he might have said, OK, you know, I'll play along and so on. And then she starts going out and she has a few speaking engagements and does a few things early on in the term. And they realize within about 90 days, by the way, the party even did within about 90 days. Well, we can't do that anymore because she is the dumbest person in the room.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, and then you never heard from her. Right. She became Dan Quayle. Correct. Okay, and here's the thing, John. You're a businessman, okay? What if you had a business partner forced on you, and then, but you barely knew him, okay? You didn't like the decision. Good point. He was a quota hire, whatever, you know, whatever. But then, over the next nine months or so many months, you see, wow. Wow.
SPEAKER 15 :
What a moron.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Aren't you even more bitter because this person, because you didn't even choose him.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, because now, you know, wait a minute. I'm now going to carry this presidency all the way through. I have no help.
SPEAKER 03 :
I have no help.
SPEAKER 15 :
I have no help. It's all on me.
SPEAKER 03 :
I have no help. And the party right now is being run by people who want her.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, I'm indebted to them because they got me elected in the first place. So now I've got a kowtow to them and I'm doing it on my own.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly, because all of the energy in the Democrat Party is in the AOC wing. Outside of that, they're lifeless.
SPEAKER 15 :
Can't argue that one, Andy. I think you nailed it. I cannot argue that at all on any level. I think you are spot on. And I am guessing that today. As Joe Biden woke up, well, of course, I'm not sure Joe knows where he's at most days. But let's say Joe Biden woke up somewhat relieved that I no longer have to deal with anything of what you just said, but disappointed in the fact that had we played this differently from day one, we may have had a different ending. Agreed. Absolutely. So I think they have two emotions there.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think you're right. And I'm going to tell you right now, Jill Biden, I think the odds are better than 50-50 she voted for Trump.
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All right. Something we were discussing through the break, which you guys don't hear what we talk about. But there's a video audio as well of Amy Klobuchar, who was in charge of a lot of the inauguration events and things. And she was even did a good job. Yeah, did a good job. She was very involved in the coordination of the handoff, if you would. You know, the ride from one place to another where Trump and Biden were together. And she talks about all the things that they talked about and how congenial they were and the great conversation they had, what they spoke about. Something she couldn't mention because of security issues and so on. But in general, she gives a lot of things that they actually talked about and some of the fun that they had together. So going back to Trump's speech. Right. At the inauguration. One thing we kind of want to add to that, knowing all of that, is it's very interesting if you think about it. Donald Trump never named Joe Biden. personally and all the things that he said were wrong with the last administration going along, by the way, with a lot of what Andy talked about with how Joe got there in the first place. So now you have to ask the question, did Trump and Joe even know some of that conversation was going to happen? And it was Trump really going after more of those that were, quote unquote, in charge, the AOCs of the party, if you would. And is that where that was directed to? Not so much at Joe Biden himself. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think so, because because think about it. Trump excoriated the Biden administration throughout that entire speech in shocking manner. Right. And then they have a friendly conversation afterward, which they did. OK, so was he really excoriating Joe Biden or was he excoriating those who forced Biden to not be Biden for four years? Because don't get me wrong, Biden's a left winger. The whole party is. I get it. But he is nothing like Biden is a Bill Maher left winger.
SPEAKER 15 :
OK, would agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
At least his history. That's his history.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I would agree with that.
SPEAKER 03 :
His history is he's a Bill Clinton, Bill Maher, that kind of thing. You know, he's a criminal, but he's not a wacko. Okay? And... I just get the feeling that Donald Trump was tearing apart the presidency that was forced on Joe Biden.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the party, not by Joe himself.
SPEAKER 03 :
The party that also forced Kamala on him, which comes back to why, no, he wasn't going to let Kamala be president for a couple months.
SPEAKER 15 :
No way. Reassures all the things we were saying.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's all kind of coming together. What do you think? No, I agree with that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Is it painting a picture? The more you analyze this and look at things. And again, there's a lot of inside baseball that we don't know that Trump does. And some of this may come out down the road and, you know, memoirs and things that get done after, you know, somebody's president and so on. And you might see some of that on down the road. Who knows? But I would venture to guess that what we're saying is more likely than Trump just trying to lambast Joe Biden.
SPEAKER 03 :
I totally agree. And you know one other thing that I think was driven by the Democrat machine and not Joe Biden, because Biden wouldn't have cared? All of the lawfare against Donald Trump. That was the hard left carrying that out. These were not a bunch of Bidenites. These were the Kamalites.
SPEAKER 15 :
And here's where I... By the way, you're right. And I think... You could prove that by the pardons Joe Biden did. Yeah. Knowing that. Wait a minute. Had I not had we not done some of those things to Donald Trump initially, I wouldn't even have to worry about this today. But I'm doing these pardons now because honestly, to have no choice because my party foisted this on me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, my party demonized everybody connected to Donald Trump and Donald Trump. And by the way, we got Donald Trump shot at, okay? Now I got to protect my family.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which, by the way, probably secured him winning more than anything else that was done.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
The shot heard around the world. Um... Andy, I don't think we're wrong on any level on any of this when you really start analyzing some of what's gone on in the party. And by the way, does the left have a lot of work to do to regain a lot of voters back to their side? Absolutely. Especially if, which he is, if Donald Trump hits the ground running, which he is, and he gets things really back on track and gets money back in people's pockets and lowers energy prices and, and, and, and, and. Yeah, they're going to have a tough row even in the midterms.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tell you what, in the next hour when we have some time, let's talk about how well his actions are going to play out over the next couple years. I think it looks good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I agree. Yeah, definitely. Well, yeah, let's do that. And, again, there will be a lot to talk about over the course of the next several years, which is exciting. Isn't it fun? Isn't this fun? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is just, I mean, we have spent the last four years every day waking up saying, oh, my gosh, I can't believe they did that now. And now it's the opposite.
SPEAKER 15 :
It is going to be directly the opposite. All right, another couple hours coming your way. Hour two is next. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, of course, Ethan Brown joining us now. He is host of the Sweaty Penguin podcast. Ethan, welcome. How are you? I'm good. How are you? Doing very well. So as I was reading your information from publicists that they always send out, as I was reading through that, I'm like, okay, time out. This is stuff that, frankly, I haven't heard and really wanted you to come on and talk about because I just find this very disturbing, and that is there is a narrative out there that somehow Israel and Jewish communities are at fault, for example, the fire that just happened in California. How so, Ethan?
SPEAKER 03 :
It sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? It sure does. Yeah. As a Jewish climate writer myself, I figured I had to dispel this once and for all. But yeah, there's been long-standing conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the weather. And more recently, it's cropped up in the context of Israel's war effort in Gaza, either as some sort of karmic retribution for folks who are against the war effort or from folks who think that US tax dollars that are going to Israel could be funding local efforts to prevent these
SPEAKER 15 :
these disasters of course those two things you see i thought maybe they were thinking they were concerned that jews were like in the old testament calling down fire from heaven and uh starting fires i mean it's all the burning bush i mean you know i mean was there did they make sure to protect the area around the bush before it was burning um
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, seriously.
SPEAKER 15 :
This is so stupid. I got nothing, man.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, Ethan, I get it. Anti-Semitism runs deep in a lot of areas. I've never understood why. I mean, it's just not something that I was ever born with or ingrained with growing up. In fact, my father was probably... about as opposite of all of that as you could ever imagine. I mean, we were not allowed to even say certain words in our home, making fun of one another as boys. So there was all sorts of things my father was very big on, and this being one of them. But, you know, I guess being dumb on my end, where do these narratives get started? I mean, who thinks of this nonsense?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's bizarre to me because it comes from vastly different places. The Jews control the weather conspiracy. I tried to do some research. It seems it originated from when the Rothschilds, which are a Jewish banking family, bought a large stake in the Weather Channel. People suddenly decided, oh, that means they control the weather, which obviously is not the case.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, Ethan, really quick. If Jews control the weather, do they take requests? I mean, I've got a few.
SPEAKER 03 :
I've got several.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm just a Jewish person. I haven't been invited to any of these meetings.
SPEAKER 12 :
In a way, I wish they did, because, yeah, I have requests also, Ethan.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. The last weekend, we didn't enjoy it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we always blow zero here. I would love to have changed that. I'm just saying.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I was shoveling snow off the deck yesterday. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
You understand. I mean, but that's how ludicrous this sounds.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. And that's part of why I wanted to address it, because, yes, it sounds silly and I was speechless, too. But in the case of Hurricanes Helene and Milton, there were anti-Semitic attacks being thrown at Jewish officials, such as Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, the mayor of Asheville, North Carolina, Esther Manheimer. These things were actually preventing them from being able to communicate critical information to their constituents. because their social media was so flooded. And so that's when it actually becomes a problem, and that's why I felt important to address it.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, Ethan, talking more seriously here for a moment, the fact that such ludicrous accusations are thrown at the Jewish community, they wouldn't do that if the Jewish community was actually doing anything. I mean, your community is not engaging in terrorism. You're not blowing up subway stations. You don't have Jewish gangs running around in Denver looting. I mean, Jewish people... it seems almost because of the overwhelming goodness of the Jewish community that they have to go to such extremes in their accusations.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, it's been, as I'm sure you know, Jews have been persecuted wherever they've gone throughout history, be it the Middle East or the pogroms in Eastern Europe and the Holocaust, of course, and it continues to this day. And I think It's kind of, people have said anti-Semitism is a shape-shifting virus. I think that's a very apt metaphor because really when we, I mean, when we either were too white or we're not white enough, either we should have a state or we shouldn't have a state. Like whenever we do one thing, the other thing becomes the right answer.
SPEAKER 12 :
So it's tough. No, and again, you can tell you're in very light company, and I just have to sometimes shake my head at some of these things because I just – and I do my best, by the way, Ethan, we do on this program to dispel a lot of the just nonsense conspiracy theories that are out there. And by the way, they roll out there for all sorts of things, not just along these lines, but all sorts of utter nonsense. And – I mean, where they start, I have no idea. I mean, one person or a group has to get them started. I don't know where the core is of some of these things. But the problem, Ethan, is, as you know, once they get rolling, it is extremely difficult to kill these things. For example, the flat earthers that are out there running around that I still see different social media posts and things on. I just think to myself, you can't be that dumb, can you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think these things spread quickly, and I think, honestly, it's... thing of cognitive dissonance. Our brains are wired to make a conclusion and then find evidence to back it up. And so if people are prejudiced for one reason or another, they're going to create new explanations for it. And I wish that weren't the case. The best we can do is just try to put out good information, be our best selves and hope for the best. Agreed.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really quick, Ethan. Yesterday in his inauguration speech, Trump came out and said he wants a society that is colorblind and merit-based. Look, if we actually go in that direction, I think that would bode very well for the Jewish community.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think so, too. I think that obviously that's the end goal, but I also acknowledge that there are certain things structural advantages and disadvantages that certain groups have that if you're, for example, if you are coming out of Jim Crow laws and you might have lower wealth that still stems from that or something like that, you're you might face certain difficulties.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and that's where you and I will have to agree to disagree, because we live in the land of opportunity in the United States of America, and Ethan, I think even... There's an expiration date on that. Yeah, I mean, you take lots of different individuals that have, you know, dark-colored skin... And I can list, you know, I can rattle some of them off that grew up in utter poverty and yet still made something of themselves. I still look at that as your choice as an American to do what you want to, not driven by your surroundings, but what you want to intrinsically do inside. Which, by the way, that bodes very well with the Jewish faith, if you ask me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I wouldn't argue that upward mobility doesn't exist. I think it exists here probably better than anywhere because of that opportunity.
SPEAKER 12 :
And by the way, Ben Carson being one of the greatest examples of what I just said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure. I think it's obviously a very nuanced conversation and not exactly my area of expertise, but I think there's kind of a, I don't think there's one side that's correct. I think there's you want to create opportunity for everyone and also acknowledge everyone's experience.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, going back to what Andy said a moment ago, on the merit-based sides of things, and I talk about this on air often, Ethan, if you look at what Israel and the Jewish community has done, worldwide, technologically speaking, advancements that have been made from the beginning of time till now, it's pretty hard to find another people group that have done as much merit as what the Jewish community has done in those areas. Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 03 :
I would agree. I think, not having studied every single group on Earth, but certainly knowing our story, I think it's pretty amazing that we, after being conquered from our own homeland in Israel and driven into exile, were able to come back, purchase land, create a new nation, become one of the top startup nations in the world, invent desalination, drip irrigation, all these different medical advancements. Oh, it's amazing. And then in the rest of the world, Nobel Prize winners have been largely Jewish. Yeah. And I think it's largely due to a lot of the values we have in our culture of education and speaking our mind.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I'll tell you really quick, Ethan, as an American, and I say this often. Had it not been for you all, we today in America could easily half be speaking German and the other half be speaking Japanese, had it not been for the Jews that helped us develop the weapons necessary. And that's a whole other topic in and of itself. But the weapons necessary to defeat what happened in World War II, we have no idea what the outcome would have been otherwise.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and another thing, I mean, desalinization, what they're doing in Israel, boy, they could have used that recently in California.
SPEAKER 12 :
Don't get me started.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I just think it's wonderful. Look, all people are equal. All people are the same. All people are made in the image of God and have great potential. Everybody. It makes absolutely no difference. But the Jewish community, their history, their culture has been one of rewarding excellence.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I think that's great. Yeah, exactly. Good way of saying it, Andy. Well, thanks. I appreciate that. And part of that, Ethan, is I think because that faith, which our Judeo-Christian faith in America stems from your guys' faith as well. Again, I don't want to get technical and get into all sorts of biblical history and so on, but the reality is our faith is very much based upon yours as well. And both faiths, by the way, but yours especially, creates excellence, does it not? Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think it's less the faith and more the tradition. I think that certainly a lot of Jews are not as religious, but the fact that we are... I mean, I was talking with a couple work colleagues a month or two ago, one of whom was Jewish and one wasn't, and the two of us are not as religious, but we were both realizing we had all this
SPEAKER 15 :
financial literacy that our non-jewish co-worker didn't have just having been raised jewish this is something you talk about at the kitchen table so why is that because you're right it's it's both religious non-religious it doesn't matter and i agree it's more of a cultural thing i'm not saying so much a religious thing but how come the smallest group in the world is a gathering a meeting of jews on welfare
SPEAKER 03 :
Sorry, can you say the last part again?
SPEAKER 15 :
Why is the smallest group in the world a meeting of Jews on welfare?
SPEAKER 12 :
In other words, there's hardly any of you that do that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, religious, non-religious, whatever. It doesn't exist. It almost doesn't exist. Or, you know, violent Jews. There's another one. I can't find any, okay? All I know is this. Blaming you guys for the weather is something people do because they can't blame you for much of anything else.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure. I think there's some elements of that. Honestly, it's hard to know where it comes from, in part because it comes from so many different directions. There's more white supremacist groups that will create anti-Semitic narratives, and then there's folks on the far left as a result of objections against Israel that create anti-Semitic narratives. Correct. Sometimes I feel like often you have one side of the aisle calling out the opposite side and the other side calling out. I think the left suddenly cares about anti-Semitism when someone on the right says something and vice versa. I think for myself, I try to call out all of it and uplift anyone who is supportive for us, no matter what their politics are.
SPEAKER 12 :
For me, I think I can sum up why you guys have some of the problems that you have with one word. And I've thought this all along. It's called jealousy, Ethan. The rest of the world and a lot of other people's groups are very jealous over the things that we have talked about that the nation of Israel and the Jewish culture that you and Andy were just talking about has created. And in turn, that jealousy creates a lot of the things that we're talking about.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think that's an element of it. I think there's also just some poor education and poor understanding of history that goes in as well.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that doesn't help. And by the way, I can't argue that because sometimes people that are uneducated in something become even more jealous because they don't understand all of the backstory to that. But, you know, for example, and I know we don't have a lot of time, but let me let me give you this example. Somebody may be very jealous of their neighbor for having something that they have, and yet if they really knew the neighbor's backstory as to maybe the fact that they started from nothing, maybe never even had much of an education, but worked really hard and enabled themselves to be able to do something now that they have that the other neighbor doesn't have, my point is because of that lack of understanding of that neighbor, that jealousy still exists.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, I think that's very fair.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I think in you guys' case, again, I think I can sum up a lot of what goes on, and even where these conspiracies get started from, it's called jealousy. They don't have what you have.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think that's true. And again, I think, like we were saying, it's not always that they understand it all and are jealous. Often it's that lack of understanding that might still lead to that. How do folks find you, Ethan? You can find me on all social media at EthanBrown5151. If you want to check out the Sweaty Penguin, go to thesweatypenguin.com. Yeah, thanks again for having me.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I appreciate it, Ethan. Thank you so much, and I appreciate that. Sharp guy. Yeah, and... Again, when I read that, I got that into my inbox, and I'm like, okay, wait a minute. I literally had to read that one twice, Andy. Typically, I don't. Typically, I can get a pretty good idea of what's going on with an email that comes in, and I'm like, okay, wait a minute. We're going to blame the California fires on the Jews. Heck yeah. The dumbest thing I've ever heard.
SPEAKER 15 :
John, you know what, though? There are a lot of Jews. Where do I submit my weather requests?
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Debra's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, we've got something that you wanted to play that kind of coincide with our last guest about the California fires and so on. That has to do with the Bill Gates, Donald Trump interview.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and Gates doesn't talk about the fires, but that's actually a problem. And I'll tell you what, really quick here. As you know, Donald Trump is trying to make inroads with all of big tech, which is very intelligent. I believe so. He is scaring the bejeebies off the Democrats because they have owned the public—
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, because they've owned mass media, which, by the way, including even some of the big tech stuff. Now, as we'll get into this and even come back and talk after, that scenery is changing. Big tech, of course, with the purchase of X by Elon Musk has changed things immensely. Some of the others are now getting on board thinking, oh, man, either we get on this train or we're going to get left behind and or have all sorts of other problems if we don't. And I think Andy said earlier in the last hour or two that some of these guys are also looking back to this last administration thinking, you know what? We really didn't get treated very well by these guys. We got demanded and overrun and all sorts of things that, frankly, we don't like either. So, you know, let's hop on this other train this time and see how this works out.
SPEAKER 15 :
exactly and bill gates this is less than two minutes he's just talking about a meeting that he had with trump they actually got together for three hours and he talks about his priorities but i'm going to criticize this here we go have you met with donald trump since the election yeah i had a chance to go have a long and actually quite intriguing dinner with him what did you discuss what was intriguing
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we touched on a lot of things. It was over three hours, to my surprise. It was just he and I, his chief of staff, Susie Wiles, and the person who helps manage things for me, Larry Cohen. So the four of us sat there, and it was quite wide-ranging. Global health is the area that I work in, and such amazing things have happened and can happen there. I spoke a lot about HIV and that the foundation is literally working on a cure for that. We're at an early stage. And so he, in the COVID days, accelerated the vaccine innovation. So I was asking him if maybe the same kind of thing could be done here. And we both got, I think, pretty excited about that. We talked about polio, where we're very close to getting that done, but If you stop, it'll spread back. And so I explained why it's been tough in Pakistan, Afghanistan. We've had cases show up in Gaza. We have cases in Africa. And he was fascinated to hear what he could do to maximize the chance that during the next four years that incredible milestone will be achieved. I felt like he was energized and looking forward to helping to drive innovation. I was frankly impressed with how well he showed a lot of interest in the issues I brought up.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and really quick here. John, I'm a little sick of this, okay? I'm not sick of Trump reaching out to these guys. He's broadening his coalition. I think that's great. It's brilliant. I'm all for it. But what if Bill Gates actually did things to help Americans not advance his agenda for once? You know, he's got all this unbelievable wealth, right? And I'm with him on the polio thing. I am. That's great. But, you know, AIDS... AIDS. Really? So, you know, Bill, why don't you do something like this? Why don't you build better firefighting equipment? OK, what if you develop cleaner ways to burn coal, which is cheap and plentiful energy for poor Americans? What if you developed even safer? nuclear energy development what if you help the logging industry in california which by the way would bring them a lot of money and would have shut down a lot of the fires that happened okay they wouldn't have spread nearly as fast what if you did things that actually mattered rather than advancing your agenda all the time aids research i mean he thinks we need to spend more on fighting aids which is the most heavily funded disease versus the threat level ever Serious. If you look at the number of people who have had AIDS, and by the way, do I want to spend money fighting AIDS? Yes. But we already have, John, to a staggering degree. If you look at the number of people who have had it and the amount of money that's gone into fighting it versus other diseases, it's ridiculous. And he's more worried about that. Here's an idea. What about heart disease? That kills many, many, many times more. What about elderly care, Bill? How about caring for the elderly?
SPEAKER 12 :
Care for Alzheimer's, all sorts of things.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Alzheimer's. What about Alzheimer's? We just saw it with our past president. What about children born with disabilities? Hey, you know, Bill, instead of advancing your agenda all the time, how about helping Americans where they are? Right. where they need to be helped, because all I hear is you're really happy that Trump sat down with you for three hours and, you know, was supportive of your agenda. How about you be supportive of things that actually affect way, way, way more Americans? What do you think?
SPEAKER 12 :
Can't argue that. I'm sick of this. You know, not a fan of Bill Gates and frankly haven't been for the longest of times because I'm not even a Windows guy. So that tells you how much I dislike Bill Gates because I don't even like the software he produces. But that's a whole other conversation.
SPEAKER 15 :
But, John, it would be like me sitting down with Trump and coming out of it and telling everybody I'm so excited because of all the improvements he's going to help make to Lambeau Field. Right. OK. And people would be like, that's great. You're a Packer fan. What about the rest of the nation? This guy cares about his agenda. Look, we're talking about one of the wealthiest men the world has ever seen. Think of the good he could do. Think of, you know, what if he had been helping with reservoirs before the fires in California? What if he had been helping with logging?
SPEAKER 12 :
What if he had been helping? As far as, you know, making, you know, glass that's fireproof and things along those lines and making it affordable enough to where people can put that in their homes and so on and so forth.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Instead of telling us all about global warming, which didn't cause any of it, and it's just insane that people try to push that, well, set all that aside. There were all kinds of things, concrete things. We don't wonder about these things. We knew had we put more money into these things, a fire like that would have killed far fewer people, damaged far less property, done far less damage. Look, bottom line, L.A. would still be there, but What new? We didn't have the funding that we needed for the L.A. Fire Department. We didn't. We had DEI rife through the L.A. Fire Department. Right. That was their priority rather than being ready for a fire. We didn't have the reservoirs that they could have had and should have had. We didn't have the logging. We didn't have the clearing the brush. We didn't have all these things. You know, how about the desalinization that the Jews are doing over there in Israel? We could have had that. They have none of it. OK, I'm sick of it. People like Bill Gates want to talk about fighting AIDS, which has had once again, I I think it's horrifying that somebody gets AIDS and, you know, I'm all for funding that. But my goodness, the money we poured is well taken.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. John and Cheyenne, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, so right after I hung up with you yesterday, I saw it on X. I think the best executive order Trump signed yesterday of all of them was revoking all those security clearances.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that was a good one, too. I loved it. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
The 51? Well, it was more than that because it was those 51 plus a handful of others that lied about other things. Right. But the 51, a lot of those guys work for CNN and MSN and they're guests and everything. And they just lost all their access. I know. That's wonderful. That's where TIA has to go in and say, if anybody here gives out classified information, we're going to have you arrested to those people who don't have a clearance. Because that's how they make their money, having inside information, and it's all gone. And I think that's a better punishment than even going to jail, because now you're going to make them paupers, hopefully.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't know. Can't argue that. You know, that's the thing. The same thing. Liz Cheney, yeah, they gave her a pardon. But in the court of public opinion, nobody's ever going to elect her to public office again.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, she's done.
SPEAKER 10 :
She's done. She couldn't even turn to a Democrat. and run in Virginia because they would look at her and say, no, you don't vote Democrat, you vote conservative.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you could get in the primary side of that another Democrat to eat her up. So, yeah, no, she's done.
SPEAKER 15 :
John, even up in, John, you're in Wyoming, even up there, is there any business or non-prof or whatever who would hire her without worrying that she would actually hurt their PR?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. I don't think so. Maybe one of those lunatic companies up in Teton County, or maybe the University of Wyoming, but even that, they just cut one of the bills that just got passed by the House, went over to the Senate, is to completely eliminate all DEI at the University of Wyoming. They did half of it last year. And the governor line item vetoed a couple of things because he said we'd lose federal funding. Interesting. Because this is a regular session, pretty much the legislature said, fine, we're going to eliminate the rest of it, and if we lose federal funding, so what? We don't want the DPI funds anyway. So the other one that's coming up, and I know it's a little change of subject, is the property tax bill has come back around. The one that got lost last year. If your property is valued, a residential property valued at under a million dollars, you do not pay property tax.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's in Wyoming?
SPEAKER 10 :
At all. Yeah. Wow. It's up at the legislature now. They're going to put it up again. But that's the bill. And they're going to replace it by adding an increase to the state sales tax of 2%.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, okay, fine. Consumption tax, fine. Whatever, I'm okay with that. I'd be okay with that here.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, but would your governor ever do something like that?
SPEAKER 15 :
No. No, no, no. That would never happen. Are you kidding? By owning property, we're evil people. You're right.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, Andy, isn't it fun to be part of the evil people? Yes, it is. Mm-hmm. You know, just going back to your guest at the top of the hour, if you just go back and start reading your Bible from the beginning again, how many times have the Jews been persecuted over the last 3,300 years?
SPEAKER 12 :
Too many.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, it has been a scapegoat going back 3,300 years. Anytime something goes wrong, let's blame the Jews first.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's the go-to. And growing up, I mean... Look what happened in New York in the late 80s. The rabbi, the grand rabbi's motorcade killed a little black kid and they had five days of riots going after the Jews. They killed a Jewish man who was just walking home from work. So it's like their favorite. And I'm not saying it's it's like if we need a scapegoat, we're going to blame the Jews first. And I don't know. How do we stop that, John?
SPEAKER 12 :
You don't. You don't.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, with knowledge and information and everything.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I'm not trying to be coy, but no, this is a good versus evil thing, John, and the reality is no, you don't. Sorry, you can't.
SPEAKER 15 :
All you can do is mock it, and I do. For the second coming of Christ.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's so stupid. You can't, John. It is what it is.
SPEAKER 10 :
No. You can't, but you have to stand up to it. Yeah, still fight it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, I'm not saying we don't still do something about it, but can you end it? No. This is good versus evil.
SPEAKER 10 :
Not until, like you said, the second coming.
SPEAKER 15 :
I just, John, I think it's a really good thing we have TSA to keep all these Jews from taking down those planes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. I'm pretty worried.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, the same thing. You know, what was the last time You saw a march by the Jewish people that ended in a riot.
SPEAKER 12 :
You don't. Doesn't exist.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, it doesn't. They don't. But it's okay that Hamas and their Palestinian supporters march, take over buildings.
SPEAKER 12 :
BLM on down the line we go, John.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and they are not held accountable for it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, by the way, John, thanks for rubbing it in about a nice day. We had 50 miles an hour winds for the last 24 hours.
SPEAKER 12 :
We had a little bit this morning, but then it went away and became nice.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you're lucky. No, it hasn't got out of the 20s up here yet. But every bit of snow we got on the weekend, about five inches, is all in Nebraska. Oh, good point. Completely gone. That's where to send it. Huh?
SPEAKER 15 :
That's where to send it. Good job.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. You know why the wind blows in Wyoming, Andy, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Because Nebraska sucks.
SPEAKER 10 :
It sucks.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
You might get some calls.
SPEAKER 12 :
Probably will. We have a lot of Nebraska listeners. That was a joke. That was a joke.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, we're joking because we're enjoying day one of the new administration.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, there we go. John, appreciate you, man. Have a good one, man. Appreciate you. Dan and Blackhawk, go ahead.
SPEAKER 22 :
So you can tell, John, I've been dealing with 60-mile-an-hour winds up in Blackhawk.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Is it done yet?
SPEAKER 22 :
And the snow doesn't blow into Nebraska. It blows into my driveway.
SPEAKER 15 :
It does. I'm telling you what, and, you know, for those who don't know, I worked in Blackhawk for quite a few years. When the wind howls through there coming down that canyon, it is unreal.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. I mean, we had probably four to six inches Friday night, Saturday afternoon. And it wasn't warm enough to melt the snow, so we got the wind last night and all it does. I've got to figure out how to do the snow fence, but I woke up this morning and I had two-foot drifts in my driveway.
SPEAKER 12 :
Never fun.
SPEAKER 22 :
Five inches of snow. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Never fun. Welcome to eastern Colorado.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
So anyways, but that's okay because it drifts it in areas and then when springtime comes, we've got the snow melt.
SPEAKER 12 :
We could be in Florida where it's snowing.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Which it is.
SPEAKER 15 :
I wonder if they really, if they think, oh, this is horrible, or they think, you know, this is kind of cool.
SPEAKER 12 :
We never get this. That's just weird.
SPEAKER 22 :
We had somebody who's from the south, from Mississippi, that moved here. She showed me a picture of one of her friends, or her daughter's fiancé took some Mrs. Dash. salt and we're putting it on the snow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh my word. Put a little bit of dash on there. There we go. Good stuff. Holy cow. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER 22 :
I saw the picture of the snow and it was like a half inch.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's hilarious.
SPEAKER 22 :
They're like, what am I going to do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Drive.
SPEAKER 22 :
Wait till tomorrow. Don't worry.
SPEAKER 12 :
Drive. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER 22 :
They don't know what to do. Yeah, they don't. No, no.
SPEAKER 12 :
You got it. New Orleans, same thing. They don't know what to do.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I will say the one thing, though. Down there, they let their tires run all the way down, so they may not have the best tread for this. Might want to stay home.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, well, they do. I mean, what's a day? It's an extra day, right? Why not? Yeah, so anyways, going back to Mr. Gates... You know, he thinks the world's population is too... Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
There's too many people. Oh, yes, it's an overpopulation.
SPEAKER 22 :
So even though he's talking about AIDS, the reason why, and I may be wrong, but his motivation is to make sure that people die. And so even though he could do the technology for glass, make it fireproof or, you know, whatever, he doesn't care.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, you're right.
SPEAKER 22 :
He's probably happy that those people lost their homes and they lost their livelihood, and he hopes that they eventually die in poverty.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because he doesn't care. You know, I do worry about anybody whose big concern is overpopulation. I always worry about those types.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. I mean, if he really wanted to, he could work on the wells in Africa to make sure that they have clean water in Africa. All sorts of things he could do. And down South America. But he doesn't. You know, because that would only help people survive and thrive.
SPEAKER 12 :
The guy has more wealth than the GDP of most countries.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. And the thing is, how many people... in those impoverished nations, if they were actually healthy, could contribute to maybe solving some of the quote-unquote world's problems.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and it's not like left-wingers can't do it. I mean, Taylor Swift is a big left-winger, right? Gave a million dollars to help people in North Carolina, and she gives a lot of money to help a lot of people in need. You know, you can do it. You don't have to just all the time say it's my agenda or nothing. Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
Right. Well, it was funny because I read the, what is it, the Sweaty Penguin?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
And he had an article where, of all places, Colorado, so the Department of Transportation, NUREL, and some other agency are working together to try to lessen the carbon imprint of air travel. And they're looking at such things as as hydrogen fuel, electric fuel. It's a ways off, right? But they're intergovernmental agencies trying to work on a solution instead of being in a silo approach to things. So it was interesting to read that. So, you know, there's part of the global warming stuff that's in there. And I'm like, okay, I guess. But what about, you know, they forget, well, we do have a higher population, but when we were burning campfires to keep warm, that was putting smoke and stuff into the environment. And they keep talking about CO2. I think it's carbon monoxide, not CO2, because what do the forests, what do trees do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, no, they don't like CO2 either, although it's good for us, but they don't like it. It's tree food, and they don't like it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't know what they have against trees eating, but.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, but CO2, the trees take the CO2 and turn it into oxygen and then they turn that carbon into either, you know, they grow based on the carbon and then they die and that carbon is released back into the environment. It's like, so CO2, they claim that CO2 is a bad thing, but I'm like, we breathe CO2.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
Or we exhale CO2. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
They contradict themselves in a lot of things. And again, Dan, we have experts on and dispel a lot of those things on a regular basis, and the majority of quote-unquote climate experts can't argue with this stuff.
SPEAKER 15 :
John, it's like you always say. Their goal isn't to fix anything. It's to control human beings. That's right.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's all it is.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. So there's logically thinking, which most people can't because they're told what to think in school. They're not taught to think in school.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 22 :
They're just taught this is what you're supposed to think. And the people that, I mean, to tell you the truth, the first president I voted for was Ronald Reagan. Me too. And so back in 76, I think I was like in sixth grade. I think you're a year ahead of me, John. But in 76, my elementary held a mock election during Ford Carter. And I voted for Carter. And then the next four years, I saw our country go to hell in a handbasket, so to speak.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
And that swung me. I'm never, I shouldn't say never, but that changed my thinking about what these people were doing. But I was in sixth grade thinking these things through. And so my parents probably had some influence, but I think my influence was just my voting record made me realize I voted for the wrong candidate. And even though I was in sixth grade, you know, I still could recognize it. Yeah, I recognized it. And I'm like, so when I was able to vote for Reagan, and that was in 84, I voted for him.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very cool.
SPEAKER 22 :
I was glad that he won. I appreciate it, Dan.
SPEAKER 12 :
Always good. Good stuff. Appreciate that very much. And, yeah, good thing he didn't actually vote for Jimmy Carter. Not that it mattered. He won anyways.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, he did.
SPEAKER 12 :
Which, what a disaster. Oh, gosh. Okay, so we've got a minute before we go to break. Who's worse, Biden or Carter? Biden, but not on the same level.
SPEAKER 15 :
Biden because he was forced to be even worse. Carter did more damage directly to the economy, of course.
SPEAKER 12 :
Only because it was smaller then.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. The economy could more easily be damaged. You didn't need as big a wrecking ball back then. Correct.
SPEAKER 12 :
And we didn't have the oil that we have today.
SPEAKER 15 :
Honestly, if you want to say who did the deepest damage of our time, it was Obama.
SPEAKER 12 :
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. A couple of minutes left in this hour. Don't forget, we'll be back for another full hour. And no guests, just me, Andy, and I. We've got plenty to talk about today, given everything that has happened here of late.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
We're going to have a lot to talk about, period.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, sum it up. Going forward, over the next two years... You know what? Let me do something. I think the Democrats have a problem in 2026. I'm going to explain it very quickly. California. The Democrats came really close to taking the House because they, right at the last second, took back several seats in California in the House. Barely. Like in the less than 1% range.
SPEAKER 12 :
They have issues now.
SPEAKER 15 :
With everything that just happened in California, do you think they hold those in 2026? I do not.
SPEAKER 12 :
I will be surprised because, as I've said many times, they think this fire stuff goes away right away. They have no idea the repercussions and the things that they'll now be going through in that particular area of the state for literally the next five to ten years.
SPEAKER 15 :
I believe they could lose three House seats in Southern California as a result.
SPEAKER 12 :
And possibly their governorship.
SPEAKER 15 :
To a Republican?
SPEAKER 12 :
Possibly, Andy. Or maybe a more conservative Democrat. Well, definitely it will be more conservative than Newsom, for sure, because that guy's done. I mean, anything like him will be done. He's done. Because they're going to want change and reform and see things done differently when it comes to some of the stuff they've just gone through.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, ordinarily when you see California Highway 1, you see at night all these car lights going for miles. Those are now torches and pitchforks.
SPEAKER 12 :
Coming up toward him. When you've got celebrities even talking about not being happy, Andy, because you know how wolf they are.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's a problem, because if they are, all of the others that are even halfway that way are definitely that way now. Agreed. All right, another full hour coming your way. Like I said a moment ago, don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. Myself, Andy, and Charlie, this is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Thank you.
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I'm a rich guy.
In today's episode of 'Best Stocks Now', professional money manager Bill Gundersen navigates through an eventful financial landscape amid a rare snowstorm in Charleston. Bill shares insights on how President Trump's presence is revitalizing the animal spirits of the stock market alongside softer CPI numbers. With major boosts in AI investments, specifically detailing the significance of Project Stargate, Bill discusses the massive implications for data centers, and the tech industry's response in an evolving economic environment. Join Bill and financial analyst Barry Kite as they delve into the resurgence of AI stocks and the surprising rally taking place within AI-driven companies like Netflix, Arista Networks, and Oracle, positioning themselves at the forefront of market opportunity.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome to the Wednesday Snowmageddon edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. Snowed in in Charleston, South Carolina. That doesn't happen very often. But that is the case. I don't think I could make it out my driveway if I wanted to today. Up in Minnesota, they're going, oh, Gunderson, come on, that's nothing. Come on, Gunderson. But we did have six inches of snow on the ground here in Charleston this morning. But the market is, look at that. The NASDAQ is the one that's really cooking here today. The NASDAQ's up 249 points. Guess what? We're back above 20,000. We're at 20,006. Netflix with just a blowout number. And all of that Stargate AI news is driving the AI stocks today, stocks like Arista Networks, Amazon, et cetera. We'll get to that in a bit. The Dow is up 78, not too much there. That's just 18 basis points. Meanwhile, the S&P is up a half a percent. It's up $30. The small caps are flat today. We'll take a look here at the bond market. Last time I looked, it was dead even, 4.57, and it still is 4.57 on the 10-year. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst, and we did wake up. My Mount Pleasant Charleston crew, which is Jeff and myself and Barry, a very rare snow ice storm, a very vicious ice storm about 7 p.m. last night. That laid the groundwork.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that would be groundwork for the snow on top. I don't think there will be very much economic activity in Charleston today. Looking at the roads, I've only seen a couple of cars go by.
SPEAKER 06 :
To see snow plows in Charleston is really something. I don't think I'll be picking any romaine lettuce. I had romaine lettuce until yesterday. I haven't checked it this morning, but I doubt that it survived the night. Anyways, we had a very rare winter storm. That's the first one since I've been here, but I do remember one seven or eight years ago.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, 2018, and it pretty much shut the – I think the international airport was closed for four days.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because they don't have any snow plows. I was like, you give me – Give me 10 other volunteers and we'll have the runway cleared off in four days.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Okay, well, you know what? Here's how we finished yesterday. I mean, Trump's first full day on the job was met with a very warm reception on Wall Street. I do think he has a lot to do with the turnaround in the market. Yes, the soft CPI numbers helped a lot, but I think the animal spirits are back right now in the market. To hell with valuations is what they're saying we want in. And valuations at some point in time will come to the fore. But for now, they're kind of thrown out the window. The Dow was up 538 yesterday. And the NASDAQ was up 127. Bitcoin hit an all-time high. Trump has a new coin. Melania has a new coin. They're hitting all-time highs. The nuclear sector had a big day yesterday. Energy looks like it's a good place to be with the AI announcement last night. You know, I was turning on the news last night. I said, I recognize that guy at the podium. Then I realized it was... Sam Altman speaking, and I haven't seen the guy from Oracle, Larry Ellison, for a while.
SPEAKER 07 :
I haven't seen him for a while either.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, he has changed. And the guy from SoftBank also, spending a half a trillion dollars, investing a half a trillion dollars into data centers. You know, everybody's investing in data centers. It seems to me like at some point in time we're going to have too many data centers. Everybody wants in on the act. And Texas seems to be, Texas is going to be the data center capital of the world. Data center and beef brisket, that's a good combination there. It takes a lot of energy, though, to run those data centers, let me tell you. And it could be the center of, well, Vistra Energy, obviously, headquartered there in Texas, and also NRG Utility. They're getting a big lift here today along with other AI stocks. Project Stargate likely to be the start of massive AI investments in the U.S. The announcement of Project Stargate by President Trump is likely to usher in an era of massive artificial intelligence investments in the U.S., We believe this is the start of a massive AI investment future in the U.S. Stargate is really focused on data center build-outs in the U.S., starting in Texas. We ultimately believe that another $1 trillion of U.S. AI investments could be committed by the rest of the big tech world as momentum builds in Silicon Valley. That comes from the Wedbush analyst.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's a new arms race. I mean, whether you're pro or against AI, regardless, right? I mean, countries, companies, you're basically in a spot where they have to.
SPEAKER 06 :
um invest in it right and so which i um and the database is a big big thing the data centers she of china said whoever has the most information and data wins the race and so that is the new race along with the space race who did you see the space stocks yesterday right yeah as trump said we're going to put a man on mars okay you know we're getting out there and some pretty speculative stuff here I feel like we're kind of getting into a 2021 kind of market once again that we've got to be careful with.
SPEAKER 07 :
Lots of long duration.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, long duration. I mean, luckily we're in the right spots today. We don't have a lot of long duration, but. Netflix is giving us a huge boost. Netflix is up almost 15% today. That's one of the chosen ones in the premier growth portfolio. Now, who's going to benefit from Project Stargate? Well, I guess we've got to look at Oracle again, even though it's been around a long time. That is Larry Ellison's company.
SPEAKER 07 :
Their data center business is huge. Yes. They're one of the big players there. You may think of Oracle as what Oracle used to be.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. ARM is a big player. Look at ARM today, up 15.9%. That's the U.K. semiconductor company. And, of course, Nvidia, which blew past Apple yesterday as the biggest company now in the U.S. from a market cap point of view, is up another 4.1% today. It hasn't broken out to new highs. It's got to get to 153 to do that, but obviously NVIDIA is a major player in AI.
SPEAKER 07 :
And don't soft bank an arm. Didn't soft bank take them private and then spun them off? I knew they had some tie, and that must be why. You know, arms tied to that must be why they're up 15.7%.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and SoftBank's up 11.2% because SoftBank still has a big investment in arm.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they've been hit or miss over the years.
SPEAKER 06 :
They've made some bad investments.
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Decisions, and then, you know, have had a couple, you know, A couple of their big ones, Arm being one of them, has kind of kept them afloat.
SPEAKER 06 :
And another one that obviously is a major player in data is Amazon. And it's breaking out to a new all-time high today. It's at $2.47 trillion. And, of course, Bezos was there at the inauguration along with all the tech titans. Amazon is breaking out, and that's another big position we have here today. And, of course, Google is another big player that you can't count out. Google has not performed as well as the others. It's up just about 1%.
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And then off to the side, Apple, basically flat today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, okay, and now one more that I have to mention because it's a major player, and nobody ever mentions this is one of the greatest stocks we've ever owned. This is going to go up on our wall of fame here. Arista Networks up 6.8%. That's now a $162 billion company, while Wall Street owns Cisco. We've had a large position. That's one of our largest positions. We own it in both the aggressive ultra-growth account portfolio and the premier growth, and we've been buying it. I mean, last week I was buying it for new clients because of the valuation. Yeah, and bolting out to a new all-time high. So these are all winners in that Stargate news that was announced yesterday. When we come back, I just want to mention the space stocks for a minute. It doesn't get any longer range than that, does it? A man on Mars? How far out is that? But the space stocks like Redwire and Mineric and Viasat and Rocket Labs and Momentus, etc., blasting off. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, I saw up close and personal, I was out on the Space Coast last Wednesday and watched at 1 a.m. the blast off of one of Elon Musk's SpaceX rockets. which carried equipment to the moon. That was not the one that blew up. That was one that lifted off, I believe, from Texas that actually exploded after the liftoff. And then as we were leaving the port at Port Canaveral, I saw Blue Origin's, Amazon's rocket ship all queued up, ready to go. He's built his own space launch site very close to Port Canaveral, where the cruise ships leave out of. And then, of course, Musk launches from the Kennedy Space Center. And yesterday, the space stocks, Redwire, I would say the three major players there, okay? Redwire definitely is a player, RDW. Rocket Labs, obviously, a definite player, RKLB. intuitive machines, which I just looked at. It wasn't in my app, and I added it very quickly there during the break. Lunar, L-U-N-R. And then Telesat, T-S-A-T, is another one that I added to the app. Trump, you know, manifest destiny applies to space. And it seems that the space race is back on. And, of course, with Musk having a very close contact and close contact with President Trump, I'm sure he's got a little bit of influence, wielding a little bit of influence there. The one not benefiting, Bill, is Virgin Galactic, SPCE.
SPEAKER 07 :
That thing is up less than 1%, and that thing looks dead in the water.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, okay, but there are some very large... Now, are these investments... Well, you know, I mean, there is a couple of space ETFs. Cathie Wood has a space ETF, which I'm sure is doing very good. I think there's one called UFO, et cetera. I think right now they're very much more in the very, very speculative, very speculative. I think maybe swing trading these stocks. They're definitely not long-term investments yet, unless you just want to put some away and just forget about it, you know. But, man, these things, they can go from 50 cents to 21 and back to 50 cents very, very quickly, so... This is kind of the new quantum sector, which, by the way, has been rebounding quite a bit. I mean, I've watched Rigetti and some of the others, QBTS, et cetera, that have a little bit of life coming back into them after... after Jensen Wang really stuck a shish kebab right through their heart. But 20 to 30 years out is for the ultimate quantum computer. But in between now and then, I mean, over the next few years, we're going to see major advances in quantum computing. Okay, now, when it comes to all of this data center stuff, that's all I can think in my mind is, man, it takes a lot of energy to to run these data centers and there's some new players emerging there but I just can't help but think that nuclear is not going to be a big major player there. Vistra continues to be one of our best stocks we've ever owned. I know that GE Vernova reported earnings yesterday. They were a little bit short but they're a major player. Constellation Energy, I have said time and time again, is a major player. There's also one that trades on the pink sheets because it's a foreign. But everybody's heard of Siemens Energy and Siemens out of Germany. Siemens Energy is hitting a new all-time high. That is S-M-E-G-F. And I was surprised to see I had the other Siemens in my database, but I didn't have Siemens Energy. I've added that. Let's not forget Rolls-Royce is another major player. I think that's R-Y-C-E-Y. And, you know, it's going to take a lot of power and it's not going to happen from the wind. So what does that say? That leaves you with nuclear and that leaves you with electric power plants and liquid natural gas. Those are going to be... uh the major uh fuel sources for these uh for these power plants well trump's got his own meme coin now it's already worth uh what 18 point i was surprised uh they asked a question in one of the news conferences how much did you make today and uh he said i don't know how much did i make and it's his coins. He's got a coin, and there's one named Melania. So we're definitely getting into animal spirits here. It's pretty wild out there right now, so I would step a little bit carefully there. Okay, the Trump administration weighs selling two-thirds of federal office space. What would that do to the REIT market? How much office space, I wonder, do they have? 70 million square feet or something like that?
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I would guess more than the Catholic Church when they started selling off some properties. Remember when they started selling some real estate years ago? I mean, it's... My guess is they own some prime property, too. I was driving through just here, you know, the old port here, you know, north Charleston, and you've got a couple of buildings there that aren't anything at the moment, and you can tell they're federal buildings just the way the architecture is. So, you know, certain places, they could be a great rehab opportunity, you know, but it would flood the market with supply. Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, people aren't going back to the office. Now, the federal workers are being ordered back to the office, but I guess they don't need all the space. That's part of trimming the fat. So I'm all for it. Quantum stocks keep shining as Honeywell's. Quantinum announces a new R&D center. So it sounds like Honeywell is getting in on the quantum push. And, of course, stocks like IonQ, Quantum Computing, which is QUBT, D-Wave, QBTS, Rigetti, they're starting to surge again. Tariff talk, absolutely. There's going to be tariffs hitting as soon as February the 1st. I know Christine Lagarde over in Europe is warning European countries to get ready for the tariffs. Mexico's going to get hit with the big tariff. Canada's going to get hit.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jamie Dimon had some interesting comments.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. That's where I was going with this. I mean, he used to be, if I remember right, he was against tariffs. But now he thinks that they're very good for our security issues.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and he was saying that's a tradeoff. He said from a tariff standpoint, he goes, if they do bump inflation up a tiny bit, but they also provide America with some protection, right, then it's kind of, I think he said, I think in terms of what, get over it, or what did he say?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, heck, it's a lot cheaper of sending troops to the border, right? I mean, hey, 25% tariff, Mexico? Yeah. You better get that border under control and help us out with this. Same with Canada. It's a very inexpensive weapon to use. And surprised to see that Jamie Dimon is on board with this. And, of course, Europe. The tariff war, though, can be a bad thing. That's the thing that we have to worry about. Okay, a new player in home delivery. One of America's biggest companies signs up with Uber Eats and DoorDash to deliver. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 1 :
Call out the instigator because there's something in the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, Home Depot adds Uber Eats and DoorDash as delivery partners for do-it-yourselfers or contractor projects. How many trips have I made to Home Depot over the years, Barry? I mean, how many trips have you made over the years? Lately, though, I've been having most things. Of course, a lot of the things you can get at Home Depot, obviously, you can get on Amazon. You need one tool, right? That one tool that you're lacking. I needed a wire stripper the other day to strip little wires to hook together. You're going to run to Home Depot? No. You're going to have it delivered to your door. Well, Home Depot is getting in. You know, I still think that DoorDash and Uber, even though they've been pretty choppy in their trading. uh i think they have huge futures because i think uh the delivery of things uh is big business and it's not cheap i mean uh to have something delivered but people are willing to do it doordash stock is now a 74 billion dollar company 74 billion dollar company It is a best stock now. We don't currently own it. They're still a little bit choppy in their earnings, pretty kind of inconsistent. But the growth, the sales growth is certainly there. I mean, the sales growth is 27%, 23%, 23%. It's a 25% grower. and has a long ways to go yet, and I think they're going to just keep fine-tuning it all. And, of course, Uber is the other big one. Uber Eats. Uber has not been a very good performer. I pulled the plug on Uber here recently and decided to move on. It's a 15% grower, 16% grower, still a superior growth stock. It's $143 billion. Uber's got a couple of hurdles to clear, obviously the autonomous whole hurdle that they need to clear. But now delivering for Home Depot, I mean, that's pretty big business there. Tesla getting higher price targets from Wedbush ahead of the golden age of AI and autonomy. Of course, Wedbush is in love with Tesla. They're in love with Elon Musk. They have been a big, of course, they've been right about Tesla. Even though Tesla's been a choppy stock over the years, they're raising their price target from $515 to $550. And, you know, Musk could be a player for, it won't be included in Tesla, but he could be a player for TikTok. He definitely has the interest in combining TikTok with his X. uh and becoming a huge social media company uh fuel cell energy is getting contracts for some of these data centers but you know that's that's the uh water converting water to energy hydrogen Musk used to call it fool cell energy. Fool cell. I don't see that as being a major player. All you've got to do is look at the stock. They've been around for a long time. Plug power. and fuel cell and they've been plugging along to say the least i i i would say that it's going to be nuclear and it's going to be fossil fuels that are going to continue to power the huge needs i was reading uh... i think in rg in texas was talking about the huge increase in demand I mean, you have to wonder, can they build fast enough? Can they produce new power? We haven't built any new power plants in a long, long time, but there's going to be a sudden need. There's some picks and shovel companies out there in that power plant. Chart Industries would be one of them, GTLS. And the other one that is a major player is, uh in providing uh you know contracting and everything uh for for the power plants i was thinking about it yesterday it came up on my charts uh i'll have the name for you here in a bit uh remember the i saw it yesterday come up in my charts and i go you know i forgot about them they're a major player in power plants. So there's a lot of ancillary plays, including, obviously, GE, but they're a competitor to GE. They build power plants.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they create those turbines, you know, at GE. I mean, that's where you've seen, you know, in terms of the equipment and bringing on, you know, new power, right? You've got, of course, nuclear, but you've got, you know, the old-fashioned way, right, with turbines and everything else. And that's what a lot of those companies that have, you know, sold that equipment have been, have certainly...
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, we were just headed down the wrong path with the solar and the wind, and we've invested a lot of money in infrastructure and solar and wind. It just can't keep up with the soaring demand. There's just no way that it can keep up with the soaring demand. We've wasted a lot of time, and I fear that we're going to have a hiccup somewhere along the way where the power demand outstrips the supply because we're so far behind the curve. And I think that's going to be a good place to be invested in It's an AI play. It's an AI play. Okay, earnings, earnings, earnings. Wow, a lot of big ones here today. And I've been a proponent for Netflix replacing Disney. In the Dow, Netflix is a much, much bigger company. It dwarfs Disney, believe it or not. Netflix is now $412 billion. By contrast, well... Netflix is double the size of Disney now at just $200 billion in market cap. I mean, Disney's in a lot of the same businesses. They're a streamer too, but Netflix has just become a powerhouse. We're fortunate to have stuck with it, and we currently own it in our premier growth portfolio, and it's part of some big gains that we're tacking on here today. We're having a huge day. And in that premier growth portfolio, we own 15, 16 stocks right now. Netflix is a 6.5% position in that portfolio. I don't know how they continue to grow their earnings. I mean, you would think that their subscribers have maxed out, but they continue to improve their margins. They continue to add subscribers. They continue to produce content, award-winning content. So look, I mean, you've got to give them credit. Look at their quarter here. Their sales were up 16%. So, I mean, it's consistently in recent years been a 15% to 20% grower, okay? By contrast, Disney is a single-digit grower.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they continue to. They continue to grow, too. I mean, now you're doing more and more live events, right? I mean, so they continue their reach in creating content and, you know,
SPEAKER 06 :
They're getting into football. They're getting into, yeah, live events, concerts. Maybe they need to build some theme parks and buy some cruise ships or something.
SPEAKER 07 :
And if you're going to cancel one of your streaming services, guess what's far down the list nowadays, right? Netflix would be the last one that you likely would cut nowadays.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, exactly. And their earnings, listen to the last four quarters of earnings growth, 83%, 48%, 45%, 102%. I mean, that's the kind of thing that great growth stocks are made of. They're going to grow their earnings by 23% this year, 22% next year. You compare that with dogs like Comcast. uh... and charter communications and uh... warner uh... and other media companies i mean netflix is running circles around them and yet very rarely if so if i get a a bit account transferred to me from one of the big wire house firms very rarely do they own netflix they almost always always on comcast which is, you know, I mean, Warner Brothers or Disney. I mean, Comcast is MSNBC and others. Their viewership, I mean, they've lost 50%, 60%, 70% of their viewers. So anyways, Netflix is up not as much as it was, but it is up 11% today. That's a lot when it comes to market capitalization being added on today. Now, two of my favorite stocks, you know, infamous, infamous. I love to rag on Johnson & Johnson and Procter & Gamble because those two stocks are in every portfolio. Well, I can't say every. 90%. 90% if it's coming from one of the big wire house brokerage firms, it's almost a guarantee that Procter & Gamble and Johnson & Johnson are going to be in those portfolios. How are they doing after their earnings today? We'll check in on them when we come back. It's the Best Stocks Now show. And welcome back here to the second or the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, you know what? You've got to throw in some contrast once in a while. a couple of bad stocks you know or you get spoiled and you think all it is the best stocks now show but you have to just look at something here like a johnson and johnson and here's what i mean by mediocre okay over the last 12 months while the s&p is up 28 percent Johnson & Johnson is down 4.7%. It's negative. This is poor management. I don't care. Blame it on whatever you want. It's poor management. Now you say, well, how about over the longer term? Over the last three years... The markets averaged 10% a year, Johnson & Johnson minus 1.3%. And over the last five years, while the markets averaged 16.4% a year, Johnson & Johnson's averaged 2.7% per year. Give me an argument for holding on and having Johnson & Johnson in your portfolio, yet it's one of the most widely held stocks in the entire market. So, you know, if you look at your portfolio and you see the usual ubiquitous Johnson & Johnson there in your portfolio, call up your broker, your advisor and say, why do you have me in Johnson & Johnson?
SPEAKER 07 :
It would be, yeah, I'd like to hear the reasoning behind having it in there, right? I can't come up with much of a reason to own the stock unless you just want some pure market exposure. And then my answer would be, well, buy SPY or whatever. I mean, there is no really good reason.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I could say the same thing about Procter & Gamble. Over the last 12 months, it's up 10%, but the market's up 28%. And over the last three years, it's averaged 2.9% per year. You say, well, it's done as good as the S&P 500. Not even close. Over the last 10 years, the S&P 500, believe it or not, if you go back to... January 22nd, 2015, 10 years ago today, and you go to today, you've had an average compound annual return in the S&P of 20% per year. That's it over the last 10 years. And Procter & Gamble is 8.9. Now, yes, I mean, it has problems because you can't grow these giant companies, but they've also made a lot of missteps recently. Along the way, especially Johnson & Johnson has made a lot of missteps along the way. Yet those two stocks are in almost every portfolio that comes to me from a big firm. I don't care if it's a big regional or from one of the big national wire house firms. Those are the kinds of stocks that they put you in. Oh, they sprinkle in a Microsoft every now and again, and maybe an Amazon you'll see will show up sometimes. But for the most part, you're going to have the vast majority of your holdings are going to be companies like that. That's just my experience over the years, seeing many, many portfolios that people say, you know, they look at their portfolio and they say, why not? Am I in something that has performed so poorly and is so poorly managed? Okay, now one that is putting in a pretty good performance. You know, I did the numbers. I was looking for a dividend stock for the dividend and growth portfolio. And I looked at Travelers and I said, you know, that's one. Usually big stocks like that, you don't find them to be undervalued. They trade more, you know, what's the word I'm looking for, Barry? They're inefficient. They're pretty efficient, okay? Large stocks pretty much reflect everything. But I just found that Travelers, I said, you know, This has been under the radar big stock that has done very well over the years and continues to grow. So we actually own a boring stock like Travelers.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it's a well-run insurance conglomerate.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and it had a very good report. It's up 4%. That's one of the few big names that will show up from time to time. Well, it's usually in most portfolios that come to us, but it's one that actually fits the best stocks now, meaning that it has valuation and momentum at the same time. The other one I want to mention is GEV. That's GE Vernova, which is the power plant. I'm still trying to think of the name of that stock I saw yesterday. You know what? There's so many symbols in my brain at any given time. But GE for Nova. That's a powerhouse. What can I say? It is literally a powerhouse, Doc. Spun off by Larry Culp over at GE. The aerospace division still remains the same, but he spun off the medical division and he spun off the power division. And GE Vernova had sales growth of 5%, earnings growth of 140%. It's now a $425 stock. When he spun it off, it was $100. This stock has quadrupled in less than a year, believe it or not. Its one-year anniversary will be in April of this year. The stock has quadrupled. Think of the value that he unleashed, unlocked. It was inside of GE as part of their conglomerate. And Larry Culp, who's one of the great CEOs of all time, said, you know what? I think there's a lot of value here. If we separate it from the rest of the company, that value will be recognized.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it gets its own multiple, and then it's a pure play on power versus having to buy GE just for the power piece, that type of thing. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Quanta is the name of the stock I was trying to think. PWR, Quanta Services. PWR is in helping build power plants, and it's hitting a new high today, by the way. It's up at $361. It did come to my mind. PWR, power. That's the symbol, okay? So that ought to tell you what they do for a living. And, of course, GE, Vernova. We own the competitors, Vistra, Constellation, and Talon Energy. But G.E. Vernova is going to be a major player going forward. Okay, hey, this has been a lot of fun. I can't believe how fast the time went. I'm going to spend the rest of the day looking at charts and looking at stocks, looking for buys, wheeling and dealing, looking for something maybe to upgrade, sell, buy, whatever, and sending out messages throughout the day to my subscribers and clients that follow me throughout the day. To do that, go to GundersenCapital.com, sign up for the four-week trial, or to let us manage your portfolio, set up an appointment. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this episode of the Eminem experience, Mike and Mark dive into the latest political happenings, with a keen focus on President Trump's controversial moves. They discuss Trump's assertive actions, including policy rollbacks, and scrutinize the response from bipartisan sectors. The show further deciphers the media's portrayal of political figures like Pete Hegseth, analyzing allegations and the public's reception. The discussion takes an introspective turn as Mark defends a liberal mindset while dissecting conservative instincts prevalent in media circles. The episode also features an intense discussion surrounding an awkward prayer service incident and a Broadway cast's reaction to Mike Pence. These examples highlight the fine line between freedom of speech and respect in political discourse. The hosts exchange differing opinions on these contentious issues but find common ground in their underlying message of acknowledging and listening to dissenting voices. Listeners will be intrigued as Mike and Mark tackle a local bakery controversy that sheds light on the divisive climate surrounding community interactions. Alongside these heated discussions, the episode culminates in a hopeful outlook as the hosts consider the potential of AI in early cancer detection, presenting a blend of current events, personal opinions, and technological optimism.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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And God bless you, my friend. How you doing? How's it working out for you?
SPEAKER 02 :
44 hours in, you doing okay? Everything good? Look, when I watched President Trump tell Peter Alexander from NBC, stop interrupting me, I thought, we're so back. And Peter Alexander said, you're right, I apologize, sir. I loved it. Just incredible. Look, It's hard to believe that we're back, but we are back in a major way. And gosh, he is, as promised, shock and awe. I mean, it's a fire hose of, you know, DEI firings. Birthright citizenship, gone. Green New Deal, gone. Hostages coming home. Lake and Riley Act passed. I mean, Marco Rubio, I'm a little nervous, 99 to nothing. Whoa. I mean, that was great. But on the other hand, why do the Democrats like him? Makes me nervous. Either. OK, listen, that's a natural.
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That's a natural conservative instinct. It's a natural talk radio instinct. Wait a minute. If a Democrat thinks it's OK, it must be terrible, which, by the way, often works. I think this, though, is that they just have. They have no arrow in their quiver. It's not Pete Hegseth who has a couple of things you can go after. It's not RFK Jr. who has a couple of things you can go after.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's just so obvious. Let's talk about Pete Hegseth for a moment. So NBC runs with a hit piece yesterday. I saw it. He was allegedly abusive towards his second wife. They go to the wife and she said, nope, not true. Your information is wrong. No, he wasn't. But there's a sister-in-law who's got an ax to grind. And so, you know, look, anybody who's been through divorce and it is a tough, awful thing for everybody involved, there can be awful things that are said during a contentious divorce. And that's what this seems to be. But if the wife is not willing to say there was anything, why not believe her? Oh, no, that doesn't slow NBC down. So they do the hit piece. Oh, the sister-in-law. And you know what the sister-in-law said? Did you see her quote? Her line was, I was assured that if I brought this forward, senators who are on the fence about confirming him will vote against him.
SPEAKER 03 :
So it's about her. She's making it about her.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mark, that was exactly what she said. I was assured that if I tell my story, the ones on the fence will vote against him. It is all about her pound of flesh. Oh. And it's sickening. And I look, I'm now I'm real invested in hoping that he gets in. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just because so much of it is because these people are inherently good, inherently valuable, real change agents for the better. And but the other part is just listen, I call it what you want. Own the libs, accountability, reckoning. I am loving it, loving it, loving it. OK, we got two little micro stories of sort of Trump 2.0 little snapshots. I'm going to give you the choice of which one to do first. We may have slightly different takes. I don't know. Do you want to do the liberal bakery in Flower Mound or the so-called prayer service? Which one you want to do first?
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Let's talk about the prayer service. President Trump tore into this. I just played the Bishop Marianne Booty. And Trump ripped into her, of course, on Truth Social. He said the so-called bishop who spoke at the prayer service was a radical left hardline Trump hater, and all of that is true. But her message—and I'm going to get in trouble on this, because it reminds me of the time when a Broadway cast— lectured Mike Pence from the stage. For me, it's the same exact story, and I got in trouble back then, too, because I wasn't really bothered by that exchange, and let me tell you why. When the cast members, when Mike Pence brought his daughters and whatever to see a show, and this was right after the election, And they gave him the same kind of lecture. We're afraid. Please be mindful of us. Blah, blah, blah, blah. First of all, he stood there and listened to every word. He did not walk out like he could have because it was at the curtain call. It would have been real easy for him to leave. He listened to every word. And then he turned to his daughter and famously said, this is what democracy sounds like. And I thought that is such a magnificent moment. Whatever you think of Mike Pence, the fact that he acknowledged dissent and recognized that there are people in the country who don't like our agenda. Just like we don't like their agenda, they don't like ours. And we shouldn't be afraid to hear them. And Trump isn't afraid of dissent. That's why he stands in a press room and loves to go toe to toe with all of them. So this bishop, while you could argue all day long, and I get it, it was inappropriate to do it in church. How was she not vetted? But her message at a church pulpit was, Mr. President, please have mercy and compassion. And you know something, Mark, that's nothing wrong with there's nothing wrong with that. And Trump's a big boy and he can take it.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is enormously right. You need me so desperately right now, as you did when you covered for this ridiculous cast lecturing Mike Pence from a Broadway stage. First of all, wrapping yourself in prayer in a pulpit is vastly different. But let's return to how horribly wrong you were in that Broadway example where they they excuse me, bitched at Mike Pence. Did he gracefully take it? This is back when we all liked Mike Pence. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. And you're right. He turned a negative into a positive. That should absolutely never have happened. If you want to go out the back theater door and talk about what a dog you think Mike Pence is, knock yourself out. To do that was unbelievably rude and a perversion of free speech. Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean you should. Ditto, especially for Five times over on steroids with this bishop who chose to wrap herself in the word of God while lecturing the president and vice president. Of course, we should all be compassionate, Mike. Of course, we should all behave in scriptural, brotherly, sisterly ways. Of course, you're a thousand percent right. But the supposition of this political screed from this bishop. From this bishop was that you guys, your positions are bad. Your positions are evil. You are evil because she believes that the only way to be right and the only way to be moral is to think there are 47 genders and to let every single human being with a pulse across the border. Screw her. It was terrible. And you need to open your eyes to that a little bit.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you're not going to try to force me to feel the way you do about something, but I'm not going to argue with you. I totally understand completely your position.
SPEAKER 01 :
I understand you, too.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I know I'm swimming upstream on this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for it, but it's how I feel. First of all, and for the record, and again, don't take this as an argument, you're interpreting what she said. She didn't say any of the things you said she said. She did not say any of the things you said she said. Why?
SPEAKER 03 :
Mike, don't be this dumb. A member of the clergy talking about, oh, the LGBTQ people, they are scared to death. Of what? Of you, Mr. Trump. Of you, Mr. Vance. And giving us this lecture of how wonderful all the illegals are. That's an attack on them. Come on.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mark, that's what she said was, I ask you to have mercy on those who are in fear, and there's nothing wrong with that. It presumes that their conservatism is something from which people deserve mercy. You're presuming that. Darn right I am. And make no mistake, you're completely correct. I know exactly who she is. She has been on record as bashing him before. She is a far left. And incidentally, there's an interesting, I think, issue about the Episcopal Church and what it has turned into. That's a whole difference. And look, you could say that about Methodist churches, too. Indeed so. So that's another issue altogether. Again, I'm not even going to disagree with you, Mark. I understand you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's flip the script. Let's flip the script. Here's one where you might be a little more red meat than me. And I described this in the first half as well. The ultra-liberal Hive Bakery and Flour Man, they went off on MAGA people in their community. So apparently what was happening is that they were getting a bunch of calls ordering cakes. Hey, You guys do a MAGA cake. And you know what the source material is of this. It's all the bakers that got calls from people to do transgender reveals and gay weddings that they didn't want to do. And did they have a First Amendment right to refuse that business? I believe. they did you believe they did the court system is generally believe they did so I think this bakery kind of got trolled by a lot of people who said hey make me 37 MAGA cakes and people had no intention of coming by they just wanted to put their shiv in the ribs of the liberal bakery that having been said this speaking of a screed here's the lady who owns the bakery who writes as follows and I'll hand it to you Mike Gallagher I've received multiple phone calls, emails, and DMs from MAGA and our community asking us to make Trump cakes. It's always the response we get when we post liberal baked goods. It's never surprising. They don't really want to order anything. It's just about harassment. All these bogus inquiries came this week. Therefore, we denied all the requests, not because it's Trumpy ass they want made, but because we're booked up for weeks. Custom work requires notice. They love to cry about it, pretend they've been denied because we discriminate. It's a lie. They love to tell people we charge higher prices for Trump stuff. That's a lie. They love to whine and complain and harass and taunt and belittle and fabricate and pollute everything they touch. That's who these people are. And we're so thankful they never visit Hive Bakery. even though the criminal they voted for one, they still come for us like children, the schoolyard insults. It's never enough. They're bullies. The people who reside here in this town are garbage. Feel free to sift through the comments on your own. You'll see them at the end of the day. We're just a booked up bakery hustling to be the best around. And these people aren't fit to lick our spoons. Wow. So last thing is I hand it to you. Uh, it, I think if you take the high ground, she could have scored more points, but she hates them as much as some of the ragtag people hate her. So this was just so unnecessary. Let me offer it up to you.
SPEAKER 02 :
What's your thought on the bake? I'm confused by it, to be honest with you, and I don't think we have any disagreement. This lady, who apparently owns a bakery in Flower Mound, says... that the people who live in Flower Mound are garbage. Now, explain that to me. You're in business to sell a product.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the people, the specific people who have come after her and who have been taunting her.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, is that what she means? I mean, I didn't get that.
SPEAKER 03 :
These people. She's been talking about the people who have been giving them online.
SPEAKER 02 :
Read that sentence again, if you don't mind.
SPEAKER 03 :
Even though they still come at us like children with schoolyard insults. Read the line about the people who are garbage. These people... People she just referred to, these people who reside here in this town are absolute garbage. Because obviously, plenty of libs in Flower Mound Visitor, and she loves them.
SPEAKER 02 :
It just strikes me as such a peculiarity to own something. You're in the customer service business, and you want to spit all over probably more than half of the community. You know, you only want to serve... cupcakes to a fraction of because it's flour mound it's this is not exactly berkeley and so i i just don't get it i wonder and i always wonder about this and i'm sure they're getting a nor just like the bishop is getting enormous pushback i guarantee you this bakery is getting enormous pushback right now and i don't i don't know why they opt to do why anybody would opt to do this does the does she have the right not to make a mega cake
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. She doesn't want to make a mock. Just imagine if God help us, Kamala had one. Could you would we be speaking up in favor of a conservative bakery saying, you know, we just we just.
SPEAKER 02 :
But it's not a right. It's not a rights issue. It's why would you intentionally alienate a community? Why do you do that? I mean, because is the flack worth it? I guarantee you she's having a bad day right now. Guaranteed. Is she?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I think I think the answer to your to your question is I think they've they've occupied a lane. They have a niche that they are the lib Biden loving, Beto loving, rainbow flag loving bakery. And yeah, but nobody wants a bunch on that front.
SPEAKER 02 :
But nobody wants a bunch of angry residents blowing up your social media site and maybe calling your shop and all that. That's a great point because they can be that political bakery without being so mean about it. Keep your head down and don't be so nasty. And just because people are nasty to you, then you're going to turn around and say, well, I'll show them. Thank you. Exactly right. And there might be somebody in Flower Mound who happens to be a Trump supporter who likes the bakery. But by the way, they'll never darken their door. Exactly. Ever.
SPEAKER 01 :
And a whole bunch of people.
SPEAKER 02 :
And so, you know, I look like like you always say, let the free market prevail. You get to go to whatever bakery. And I wish we had more time. I know we're almost out. But gosh, these January 6th pardons. I've got a simple, very plain question. How many years should somebody go to jail for assault? Yeah. 20? And then if you're going to say 20, then go talk about the cops who were assaulted after George Floyd.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's it. And that's Trump's point. Trump's point is, look, you know, I'm sure Trump's attitude is, I don't like people fighting cops or breaking windows. Yep. But these people have already been in jail for years. How many more years are you going to – what about the guy that had the website, the dark website? He pardoned that guy. Do you know much about this story, Ross Ulbrecht? Yeah. Completely – that guy had two life sentences. Two – what, for a website that people misused? Right. Come on. And Trump is, and a lot of people are saying, praise God. So, you know, again, it's going to be, but how about, I got chills. We've all had cancer in our life. Lord knows I've had loved ones that have been down that road, you know, too many times to think about. And there was Larry Ellison from Oracle and Trump on a podium yesterday talking about how AI can be successfully implemented to catch cancer. cancer early and save maybe millions of lives. AI scares me, but AI used the right way can be just an absolute godsend. And now here's Trump investing in this huge AI infrastructure that could save lives by blood tests that AI can show early signs of cancer. What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive. A golden age, my friend. It is. So let me go get my licks and let me get my head taken off.
SPEAKER 03 :
Don't even bring this up on your own show.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just don't. I'm doing coffee cake recipes in my home today.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's all I'm doing.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm avoiding it like the plague.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love you.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm going to be safe.
SPEAKER 01 :
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