From Elon Musk's space endeavors to the NPR's encounter with Congress, this episode is packed with crucial discussions. We analyze the impact of billionaires in politics, the prevalence of wokeness in cultural phenomena like the Snow White remake, and the role of social media in shaping public opinion. Tune in for a multifaceted exploration of the week's most significant stories and their implications on our societal fabric.
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Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. It's Friday, March 28th. This week, the Trump administration admits a mistake. Rosie O'Donnell denies an election again. And all seven dwarves cannot save Snow White. Let's begin with an important question. Is it time to get both sides of a divided America talking to one another again? I'm seeing some things being posted on social media that say things like, are we really angry at a pro-energy company? Are we really that mad? Is this anger real or not? And I don't know the answer to that. I really wish I knew the answer. I wish I could get my brain around it. A lot of rage. A lot of people screaming. A lot of anger. Here's a leftist post that was on X that caught my eye. She said, all right, I know this is dramatic, but I'm really upset about all the Teslas being torched and vandalized nationwide. This is the worst look for the left. Violent, angry, destructive. And all of this directed at a clean energy company. She wrote, I'm so disappointed. You know, the truth is the Democrats have kind of, they have an identity crisis right now. What are the Democrats? Are they sort of the angry pack of violent, destructive vandals who are laughing and joking about hurting Elon Musk and his company? Are they progressives who believe in open borders? are truly concerned about government efficiency? I don't know. I know that Bill Maher is sort of a truth teller. Look, I think he's an atheist or he's certainly agnostic. My problem with Bill Maher is how He doesn't understand or respect people's faith. He's anti-religion. In fact, I think he made a documentary once called, was it Religiosity, I think? Pretty sure that was the name of it. But look, he is a traditional, I think the way to describe him is a kind of traditional, old school, maybe even blue dog Democrat. He got invited to the White House and he said he's going. And the left is losing its mind. They can't believe Bill Maher has accepted an invitation to sit down with Donald Trump in the White House. But here's what he said on his show this past weekend about the Democrats melting down and the identity crisis that the Democrats face themselves with right now.
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I just saw this really bad news for Democrats. 2030 reapportionment. There's a group called the American Redistricting Project. And in five years, we will be redistricting. California is projected to lose three seats. New York, two. Also going to lose a seat. Minnesota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Illinois, all blue states. Who's getting these? Texas, Florida, Idaho and Utah. I mean, this looks like game over, you know, and the reason why people are voting with their feet is. A lot of what your book is about, taxes and regulation. I certainly have been screaming about it forever. I did three years with a sign here that said, how long is it going to take me to get my solar hooked up? Three years talking about it on television in this state. You couldn't do it. This state has almost 400,000 regulations. I just put in a new roof because the fire, I thought, oh, let's get a roof that's not going to burn up. Two inspections. Why are you inspecting my roof? It's my roof. If it falls on me, that's my problem. And we're taxed more than any other state. People are leaving these kind of states for places where they're not, they feel the heavy breath of government on them. It's just, it's not that hard for Democrats to understand this, but they seem to be incapable of doing anything about it.
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The big story from early this week centered on a Defense Department group text that inadvertently included the editor from The Atlantic magazine. The White House has acknowledged that it apparently happened the way it has been reported. But remember something. And Axios yesterday, I told you about their reporting on how the Democrats are in a deep, deep hole. They see the party right now, the top Democrat leaders see the party in a deep abyss. They're in trouble. I mean, they range from this whack job, Jasmine Crockett, confirming that she doesn't want to advance any legislation. She just wants to take down Trump. That's her goal. And apparently they like that. To Chuck Schumer, who's between a rock and a hard place, trying to be somewhat credible in voting for the continuing resolution and then facing the wrath of the Jasmine Crockett's and the AOC's of the world. They're in a mess. They have dismal polling. They're searching for a message. So naturally, they're going to embrace this signal chat controversy with relish. They want a distraction. And unfortunately, for a day or two, they'll have it. And then it's going to blow over. Nothing negative happened. The mission in Yemen was completely unaffected. And Jeffrey Goldberg now from the Atlantic gets to spike the football and say, look at the gang that can't shoot straight. Look at this bunch of, look at these bunch of hacks and bunch of pikers and bunch of amateurs. It's amateur hour. Okay. All right. You got to own it. You got to own the mistake. And move on. Remember what Elon Musk said in the White House? And this to me is one of the most important messages that has emerged. And this is to me why Musk is so valuable in the Trump administration. We all know President Trump's personality. He's never going to acknowledge any mistakes. But the guy that he has tapped to get rid of the fraud, waste, and corruption in the federal government does say it's important to acknowledge mistakes because he said so standing just a few feet from his boss.
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And I should say also we will make mistakes. We won't be perfect, but when we make a mistake, we'll fix it very quickly.
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And he also said it in the Oval Office. He's repeated that on a number of occasions. We're going to make mistakes. When we do, we've got to fix the mistake, the mistakes, and we've got to move on. That's perfect. Don't you welcome that? Don't you think that's a good response? When you move fast, you're going to break some things. And the Trump administration is moving real, real fast. Celebrity and former talk show host Rosie O'Donnell left the United States over President Trump's victory. She popped up, though, on a talk show in Ireland to deny the outcome of the 2024 election. Now, let me give you an example of another show business personality who evidently fled the United States after Trump got elected and now lives in Ireland. Here's Rosie O'Donnell. Apparently, she can't even help herself. Instead of just living out her retirement in Ireland or maybe becoming, you know... a talk show host in Ireland, she's decided she's going to make the rounds and do interviews with political talk shows in Ireland. And maybe she thinks these interviews won't get back to the United States, but they have. And here's what she said. You know, a lot of people did vote for him.
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Yes. Do you accept their right to do that and their opinion of him?
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Well, I respect their right to do that. I question why the first time in American history a president has won every swing state. and is also best friends and his largest donor was a man who owns and runs the Internet. So I would hope that that would be investigated and that we would see whether or not it was an anomaly or something else that happened on election night in America when Kamala Harris was filling up stadiums with people who supported her. And Donald Trump was not able to do that. So it's curious to me. And as an American and a believer in democracy, I would hope that we would be able to look at all of the reasons why this happened.
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OK, there you go. So Rosie's an election denier of 2024. Hillary was an election denier of 2016. Democrats lined up en masse disputing the outcome of Trump's 2016 victory, saying the Russians did it. I saw some clip over the weekend, some prominent Democrat saying that Russia clearly played a role in Trump's election. So they do it, but of course when we do it, destroy people's lives. De-platform them, get them fired, maybe put them in jail. But they do it all day long. You know, there's an inclination to ignore what people like Rosie O'Donnell have to say. But I don't want to ignore what they have to say because she represents views of a lot of people. There are plenty of people that love Rosie. People on the left who appreciate her. They love her, you know, her sharp elbows and her provocative comments. And there you go. There is... Somebody from Hollywood, front and center, claiming that the 2024 election was rigged. Is anybody going to call her out for being an election denier from the left? Highly unlikely. The head of NPR appeared before Congress this week. It did not go well. The CEOs of NPR and PBS... were called to Capitol Hill to try to explain their liberal bias. In case you haven't noticed, there is a 100% confirmable liberal bias from the journalists who work at NPR. Shouldn't shock you. It's no different from the Washington Post or MSNBC, New York Times. We get it. We get it. Mainstream media is dominated by progressives and liberals. Talk radio is dominated by conservatives. You know, we all have our spaces. We all have our little territories. Some territories bigger than others. What shouldn't happen is that taxpayers should fund any of it. You shouldn't fund me, and you shouldn't fund NPR. And when it comes to NPR, the CEO is a woman named Catherine Maher. Catherine Maher had a very, very bad day yesterday. No matter how bad your day is going, be grateful you're not Catherine Maher. Because this is what she encountered when she was questioned by Congressman Brandon Gill from Texas.
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Ms. Maher, I want to start with you. Just generally, would you say you generally agree or disagree with the following statement? The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. I would not say I agree with that. You're not. That's good to hear. It's interesting because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your public statements, is deeply infused with economic and cultural Marxism. Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?
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I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.
SPEAKER 04 :
It has evolved. Why did you tweet that?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't be able to say.
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Okay. Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy?
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I don't believe that, sir.
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You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time, apparently, The Case for Reparations. I don't think I've ever read that book, sir. You tweeted about it. You said you took a day off to fully read the case for reparations. You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.
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I apologize. I don't recall that I did. Okay. I have no doubt that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that.
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Okay. Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races? I do not. You don't? You tweeted something to that effect. You said, I grew up feeling superior. Ha, how white of me. Why did you tweet that?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to be to grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.
SPEAKER 04 :
It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I was just reflecting on my own experience. Do you think that white people should pay reparations?
SPEAKER 04 :
I have never said that, sir. Yes, you did. You said it in January of 2020. You tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, yes, America, yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt, yes, reparations, yes, on this day.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
SPEAKER 04 :
What kind of reparations was it a reference to?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted. Okay. How much reparations have you personally paid?
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Sir, I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations.
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Okay. It's just for everybody else.
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I'm not asking anyone.
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Seems to be what you're suggesting.
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Do you believe that looting is morally wrong? I believe that looting is illegal and I refer to it as counterproductive. I think it should be prosecuted.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you believe it's morally wrong though? Of course. Of course. Then why did you refer to it as counterproductive? It's a very different, very different way to describe it.
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It is both morally wrong and counterproductive as well as being illegal.
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You tweeted, it's hard to be mad about protests in reference to the BLM protests not prioritizing the private property of a system of oppression. You didn't condemn the looting. You said that it was counterproductive. NPR also promoted a book called In Defense of Looting. Do you think that that's an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars?
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I'm unfamiliar with that book, sir, and I don't believe that was at my time at NPR.
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You tweeted that you read that book.
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I don't believe that I did read that book, sir.
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I mean, it was brutal. That went on. He just had all the receipts. He went down the list of all the things she has said. When you go on social media and you write in your own words how you feel, well, guess what? That comes back to you. And are you ready for this? This is going to blow your mind. Tracy looked up the board members for the Signal Foundation. I think it's the same signal. Pretty sure it's the same signal. You know who's one of the board members of Signal? This app that has caused all the hullabaloo? That same woman, Catherine Mayer. Spring is here, and my pillow is ready to meet the moment with the Spring Sheet Sale. Got to be careful with the way I say that. The Spring Sheet Sale. Say that three times fast. You know the Giza Dream Sheets that I've been telling you about? These and the percale sheets, holy cow, check out this offer. Just in time for spring, you can get your very own set of Queen Giza Dream bed sheets from MyPillow. You'll save 50% or more. You can get the queen size sheets. Queen-sized Giza Dream or percale bedsheets for as low as $29.98 with the promo code MikeG. That's an extraordinary offer. And when you go to the website, check out the pillows, the slippers, the doggy beds, the loungewear. and more. MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. Click on that box, and then with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. This is the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. Democrats do not know what to do about their plummeting popularity. Their latest strategy? Complain about the oligarchy. But I hate it when they don't listen to any of the substance of what Trump is doing. And what this administration is doing. And what Elon Musk is doing. I mention Charlie Kirk a lot. I want to play this clip from Charlie Kirk. This is, again, I don't know why, I've just seen a lot of his videos lately. Check out his explanation about what Elon Musk is doing with Doge.
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I'm curious who you think Elon Musk has in his best interest. You. Really? You want to live in a country that has a balanced budget and the U.S. dollar reigns supreme? So let's look at the incentive structure. Why would the world's wealthiest man go do this? I think it's because he is trying to get money for SpaceX, and he has proposed internally bills to get money for his corporation. So, so far, his net worth has gone down like $100 billion. So if his goal is to get wealthy, he's not doing great. Number two, let's talk about SpaceX. Right now, weather permitting and reactor permitting, those astronauts would otherwise die if it wasn't for SpaceX. NASA does not have the ability to rescue our astronauts. So Elon is literally offering a service, pretty miraculous one, might I add, that our own government literally cannot even do. And God bless him for that. But he's asking our government for more money for SpaceX. Well, he's asking for contracts to go do necessary things for the space fight. But understand, the SpaceX example, NASA literally has stranded these poor astronauts right now in orbit. And if it wasn't for Elon, they might remain there forever and die.
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How about that? Why is that such a terrible thing? Bernie Sanders is on the crusade about the oligarchs. That's his big thing. The oligarchy! The oligarchy! We've got to stop the oligarchy! He got all upset because Jonathan Karl asked him about AOC. But somebody posted something on social media that made a lot of sense. Have you ever seen the list of billionaires who donate exclusively to Democrats? I mean, this is true good faith honesty here. Does Bernie Sanders have a solution to this? Or is it all just smoke and mirrors? You want to know the list of billionaires exclusively supporting Democrats? Reid Hoffman, Michael Bloomberg, Dustin Moskovitz, Facebook, Tom Steyer, hedge fund billionaire Bill Gates, J.B. Pritzker, the Hyatt heir, Laureen Powell Jobs, the Apple heir. Mark Cuban, Donald Sussman, a hedge fund billionaire, Stephen Mandel, a hedge fund billionaire. I mean, the list is as long as your arm. Oprah, George Lucas, the movie guy, David Geffen, Warren Buffett. I mean, these are all billionaires, according to this list. who donate exclusively to Democrats. Hey, Bernie, do you have an oligarch problem on your side? Why are you so fixated on Elon? He's one of many billionaires. And according to this list, the vast majority of billionaires on this list are donating to Democrats. Huh. Contradiction much? How much time do you spend on social media? How much is too much? We tried to tackle that topic this week. This is the perils of social media and the Internet. You know, one of my kids says, Dad, get off the Internet. Get off of it. And I understand the inclination to kind of cleanse your palate, get away from it all for a while. Incidentally, just FYI, in case you've seen an essay that was written about Barack Obama many years ago. questioning whether or not he's a secret Muslim and all this nefarious stuff. It was attributed falsely to me. I didn't write it. Somebody posted it on one of my social media accounts years ago. Then somebody else reposted it and claimed I wrote it. And I didn't have anything to do with it. And I never even really looked at the merit of it. I mean, it's all stuff about... stuff about whether Obama did stuff with the Muslim call to prayer and whether he's a secret Muslim and whether he... You know, I don't even know. I don't take credit or criticize something that I've got nothing to do with. I just hate it that the Internet is forever and doesn't go away. And there's something about an essay about Barack Obama that has been falsely... attributed to me. So, Gloria, my answer to you directly is I have no idea whether it's official or unofficial. I have no idea if there's any merit to any of the claims. There's a whole bunch of claims in that email. I kind of doubt it, but what I do know is I didn't write it. I didn't have anything to do with it. It was really funny. Last week, some guy with the big following posts And it got, you know, circulated again. And then people were bashing Mike Gallagher thinking it was the congressman. Well, this guy's a rhino creep from Wisconsin anyway. He can't believe anything he says. So then I had to kind of wade into that dialogue and say, wait a minute. I'm not the former congressman. And, you know, A, I'm not the ex-congressman. And B, I didn't write the stupid thing. Oh, man, oh, man. Eric Hansen, why don't you come over here for a minute? Let me get both you and... I know we're training Alex today, so it might be a little awkward, but can you get a camera over there, swing one over to either you or Christian or somebody? Because I want to ask how you guys navigate social media. I want to know how you... Because knowing Eric, as I do for 25-plus years... you probably have a pretty good life-work. You've always had a pretty healthy life-work balance. Unlike me, where I'm sort of consumed by my work and by my job, and I'm looking at the Internet all the time, I find myself spending hours doing what one of my kids calls doom-scrolling.
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I do not doom-scroll.
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But are you on there a lot?
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I don't spend a ton of time on Facebook or Twitter. I'm sorry, X. X. Shows what I know.
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Don't insult Mr. Musk.
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I know. Mr. Musk is doing a fine job. No, I don't spend a ton of time on social media because it doesn't seem to do me much good. I enjoy it a little bit if I have some time. I spend a lot of time on public transportation. And so if I have a minute, I might scroll through Twitter. I might look at something political. I might not. I might look at something else. I'm a sucker for YouTube, but I watch some of the nerdiest stuff on YouTube that you could possibly imagine. But that's me.
SPEAKER 07 :
But that's the thing. I mean, there's a lot of really great stuff that I find, like the Charlie Kirk videos that are going viral. If I'm not on social media, I wouldn't see it. But then you get into the hole, you go down the rabbit hole of all the ugliness and the viciousness and the vitriol and the acrimony, and you say... maybe I shouldn't be doing this.
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I will tell you, I have three girls, as you know, and they're of a different generation. I mean, they're all like in their... Well, as of this year, by the end of this year, they'll all be in their 20s.
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Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know, which is... That's another story for another time, but...
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Well, one story for another time is when I hired you, you only had two daughters. The third one wasn't even born yet.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I had one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you had one daughter when I hired you. Now you have three. You had one infant daughter. Now you have three grown 20-something-year-old daughters in the time you've been working with the Mike Gallagher.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is very true. Yep. Pretty astounding. They're all grown up. But I'll tell you, a lot of them don't use social media. Really? A number of them. I know they all gave up the... Some of them have Instagram. I know my youngest daughter does not have Instagram. None of them have Facebook. They say Facebook is the thing that you use if you want to contact your parents because nobody uses it. Nobody uses Facebook anymore, really, unless you're over a certain age. And they gave up the Snapchat. Snapchat was big when they were in high school. They all gave up Snapchat. And they used Twitter. Some of them used Twitter. I'm sorry, X for news, which is good and bad, I guess. But they're very conscious, much more conscious, I think, than we are about the potential downside.
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How toxic it can get.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and it gets toxic beyond politics, just personally for kids.
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Oh, just ugly stuff and angry. All right, thanks, Eric. I appreciate it. The new live-action version of Disney's Snow White debuted in theaters over the weekend. Well, the audience reaction was most definitely grumpy. We're kind of in a golden era. Whether we don't like the wokeness, well, let's look at what the wokeness did to Snow White. That movie had a $250 million budget. It opened with $43 million in domestic ticket sales, light years below, miles below what they wanted for it. And you got this star, Rachel Zegler. who's going around, and she's obviously a Trump hater, and she's making all these obnoxious comments. I saw one clip. If I've got to stand around in an iconic Disney princess costume for hours on end, I'm going to get paid for every hour that that costume is being streamed online. I thought, oh, that's lovely. That's nice. Like, you didn't make enough money to do the movie?
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And by the way, in the movies, they do refer to Snow White to the name actually having come from the creamy complexion of her skin.
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Right. That's where it was originally. Not anymore. No, it is now. Oh, no. She was born during a snowstorm. Of course, you can't say skin is white as snow. No, no, no, no. And you can't let the prince rescue her. Oh, no, no, no. That's new.
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Not with that non-consensual kiss.
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Oh, no. And finally, you know what started all this, right? Dwarves. Dwarves.
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That's right. Peter Dinklage, who's an actual little person. Okay. Ricky Gervais, who, again, I disagree with. Stone-cold atheist and also one of the funniest people in the world. said that there's irony in Peter Dinklage complaining about little people being used in a film. Isn't he kind of undercutting the actual work environment for people who have the exact same sort of challenge that he faces? He says, I got to tell you, I watched Peter Dinklage. He was not happy. In fact, I think he was grumpy.
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Oh, ouch. Well, but here's what I do know about Peter Dinklage's outrage and what he said was it's dehumanizing to cast little people as dwarves. That's so silly. That's so wrong. Well, here's what I know. You know what it costs to have animated dwarves in the Snow White movie? You know what those animated figures got? Nothing. You know what seven little people actors would have gotten? A big fat paycheck. Of course. So he put seven people out of work. This is unbelievable to me. This is what wokeness does. It invades. It infects the brain.
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It makes smart people stupid.
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And nice people mean. Look, that's the Mark Davis rule about Trump hatred. I think it could be applied to wokeism. It's true. Wokeism takes smart people, makes them dumb, and nice people, and makes them mean. And makes funny people unfunny. And finally, if you've never visited a Bucky's, it's about time you got to know this American institution. I like Bucky's. And I can't get enough of Bucky's. And so, again, this huge rest. If you don't know what it is, it's this gigantic rest. It's usually on highways, on the side of highways. It's this gigantic... I mean, there are gas pumps for as far as the eye can see. There are... It's got miles of space inside. You walk in, and it's fun, and it's friendly. The guys are grilling up brisket, and in fact, they do these chants when they're making the brisket in a Buc-ee's. They're doing all these chanting and everything. It's the nuttiest thing you've ever seen. And I love it. I once spent, I think, an hour and a half in a Buc-ee's just walking the aisles, buying swag. Oh, yeah, they have swag. The Buc-ee's mascot, which is like a buck-toothed beaver, right, or something. Anyway, along comes this lady. I don't know who she is. She's a beautiful woman, and she does this post on social media in her car describing Buc-ee's. And I had to share it with you. Buc-ee's.
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It's less a gas station and more a theme park for people who think beef jerky is a food group. You don't stop at Buc-ee's. You disembark. The parking lot is larger than most airports with rows of pumps all full, like it's Black Friday for unleaded. It's where you'll find lifted trucks, RVs the size of starter homes, and at least one guy filling up a five-gallon gas can who absolutely should not be operating machinery. Upon stepping inside, it appears as though Walmart had a baby with Bass Pro Shop and then raised it in a Texas roadhouse. And Buc-ee's doesn't sell snacks. They sell impulse control issues. You walk in for water and leave with a brisket sandwich, two pounds of fudge and a bag of beaver nuggets, which are basically diabetes and nugget form. I don't know what's in beaver nuggets, but I'm positive it's illegal in seven states. They taste like caramel, childhood, and a root canal waiting to happen. They're what you eat when you've completely given up on life but still want to enjoy it. And then there's the bathrooms. These aren't just bathrooms. They're cleaner than most hospitals and twice as private. You walk in expecting gas station horror, a broken lock and a crackhead washing their socks in the sink, and instead you're in a day spa for your own sake. The stalls have floor-to-ceiling doors. You could file your taxes in there. You could take a Zoom meeting. Hell, you could die in one of those stalls and the janitor would bless your body before they mopped around it. It's the first bathroom in history where you can shit yourself and still feel respected. And just when you think you're done, you walk out and realize Buc-ee's has merch. Not just a t-shirt or a hat. Buc-ee's has turned their beaver logo into a family crest. They sell pajamas, blankets, pet beds, and onesies for babies. Because nothing says we make bold choices in this family like dressing your infant as a gas station mascot. It's not a pit stop. It's rehab for people addicted to barbecue. You don't just leave Buc-ee's. You emerge slightly fatter, noticeably happier, and absolutely ready to do it all again.
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It's just one line after another, and I can relate to all of it. That wraps up the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast for a Friday, March 28, 2025. Be sure to subscribe to all our podcasts and follow us on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you like the show, be sure to share it with a friend. We'll see you back here next week on the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast.
Join John Rush as he delves deep into the challenges and opportunities surrounding educational reform in the United States. Featuring special guest Dr. Lance Izumi, the episode addresses the contentious topic of school choice, examining how competition among schools can lead to better educational outcomes. From federal overreach to union resistance, John and Dr. Izumi discuss the evolving landscape of education and the increasing demand for more localized control over educational funding and decision-making.
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And we are back. Our number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Lance Izumi joining us now, Senior Director of the Pacific Research Institute Center for Education. Lance, welcome back. How are you?
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Always a pleasure. Joy, we're seeing now the dismantling of or the attempting to dismantle the Department of Education, which I think will end up happening when it's all said and done. And that's going to return education back to the states and local communities. Talk to us about that and what else might be happening in combination with that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, I think what you're going to see, first of all, John, is that you're going to see kind of a hollowing out of the Department of Education. I mean, it's going to take some congressional action to actually eliminate the department. But before that happens, you're going to be able to see a number of these programs are going to be offloaded from the department to other departments. such as Department of Treasury for some of the loan programs, Department of Labor, Department of Agriculture. And then a chunk of that money is then going to be probably granted in block grants to the states. Senator Mike Rounds of South Dakota has a bill that would block grant a lot of that money. So what that's going to do is it's going to give the decision-making power over those monies to the states and localities as to how to use it, not from Washington, from faraway bureaucrats, deciding where that money should go.
SPEAKER 19 :
Lance, is there an ability like the Fed, which I'm a states guy, I'm a states rights guy, so I always hate when there's some, you know, quote unquote federal overreach, although when you can't get states to do some of what needs to be done in some areas, education is key in what we're talking about. So much like the Federal Highway Fund, the feds can say, if you're going to get this money, you need to do X things to receive this federal highway money. So given the fact that this is going to come from the feds for education, could the feds impose something that says, listen, unless you've got school choice in your state, you're not going to receive these monies? Is that something they could do?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that is something they can do, John. I mean, you just have to look and see what President Trump has already done with, let's say, the federal monies that are going to a lot of these universities who are violating his executive orders on anti-Semitism. And protecting Jewish students, for example, about $400 million going to Columbia has been withheld because of that. So I think that the federal government can put these strings on with regard to school choice, for example, and ensure that that money, while it may be used by the states, has to take into consideration empowering parents to be able to make the decisions about how to best educate their children.
SPEAKER 19 :
So my idea is not far-fetched. I guess the other question I would have is, I mean, I can't be the only one thinking along these lines. I'm not any smarter than anybody else is, Lance. Is that being discussed anywhere that you know of?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, certainly I know that the president has been very supportive of school choice. I mean, in his last administration, he proposed an education choice program, you know, in the second half of his administration. And so, you know, I'm sure that that is going to be – you know, discussed. I mean, he's held meetings in the White House already on promoting school choice. So I think that's going to be front and center with Linda McMahon's agenda at the Department of Education.
SPEAKER 19 :
And, you know, I know there's a lot of people that are for school choice. They're against it. Even some conservatives are against it because they don't want the government involved in the education aspect of things, period. You know, Lance, I understand all sides and where people come up with their different feelings on. I am a school choice person. I guess you could say, Lance, and whether that be homeschooling, whether you want to go to Catholic school, whether you want to go to monastery, whether you want to go to a Christian school, whatever the case may be. You pick whatever you'd like to do for your child. You've got to check, if you would, a voucher to go do whatever it is that you need to go do for your kid. And the reason why I feel that way, Lance, is I'm also a self-employed individual. I've owned businesses since I was in my early 20s, and I also understand what competition does to create excellence. We don't have that right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no, we don't have that in too many places, unfortunately. What you have is a monopoly by government schools, and even if the schools are essentially failure factories or indoctrination centers, even worse, parents don't have any choice as to where to send their kid because that's the only school or education option for them. But what school choice does is it opens up different avenues for parents, whether it's private school, whether it's homeschooling, or some other type of school option. Parents get that ability to make that decision as to where their kids are going to thrive the best. And that, at the end of the day, is what an education system and education policy is all about, making sure that the kids are doing their best. And what you see in the research is that school choice programs actually provide higher achievement or promote higher achievement among students, And where there is competition, John, and you bring this up, is where there's competition between different education options, including public, private, and homeschooling, that you see the public schools actually improve their performance.
SPEAKER 19 :
They don't have a choice, Lance, and at that point, they're either going to improve or they're going to go out of business, quote-unquote. They won't exist if they don't.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's absolutely right, just as in private industry. That's right. If you don't improve your product, then you're going to go out of business. The same with a competitive market in education. Unless you provide consumers who are parents and their kids with a good education, then you're going to go out of business.
SPEAKER 19 :
The problem that I see with all of this, or the biggest obstacle with this maybe is what I should say, not the problem, but the biggest obstacle is right now I'm sure there's people listening. I'm sure there's some teacher union folks even listening to me at a glance right now that are probably yelling at me at the radio, trying to get to me through their own speakers because they are not going to give in when it comes to some of this stuff. They are dead set on making sure they are top dog and they do not like competition.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, that's right. The unions are going to dig in their heels. But really, I think the unions are on the wrong side of history. You just have to look at the fact that just within the last two or three years, you now have 17 states that have created education savings accounts, which are publicly funded savings accounts that parents can use for expenses such as private school tuition or tutoring or homeschooling options. And so before, you had only a small number of states that offered that type of program. Now you've got 17 and growing. And so I think that the momentum is surely on the side of school choice. And there was a survey that just came out, a national survey, that found that 74% of school parents support education savings accounts. And so only 11% oppose. And I think that, you know, when we talk about 80-20 issues with regard to the president, and issues that he's supporting, that I think that this is one of those that, you know, it's very clear that parents and the American people support school choice.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know what? We've talked many, many times in the past, and you know where I come from on this, and I make myself very clear on this all the time. And because of the test scores and the things that we have going on right now, and the reality is, and of course, as an employer, Lance, I've been watching this happen for years now. I mean, the folks that I get, whether they're coming out of high school or college, for that matter, Lance, unfortunately, they are not smarter today than they were a couple of decades ago. And with the technology advancements and where we are as a world, it should be the opposite.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, that's absolutely right. Unfortunately, we live in this highly competitive world market, and yet our students are not rising to that ability or that level of knowledge that we need from them. And it's not necessarily their fault. It's the fault of the system that is underpreparing them for this modern workplace. And when you have national test scores that show that 7 out of 10 kids are not proficient in reading and mathematics in the 8th grade, then you know that we're in real trouble. And I interviewed a college professor in the Silicon Valley who said that his students are so underprepared they have trouble with algebra. He's teaching calculus. And so he said that Silicon Valley companies don't want his graduates because they are not prepared for the workplace.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, you are. You know what? He's not the only person I've ever talked to along those lines that would reiterate that. So absolutely. And again, this is information, Lance, that I think the more and more people learn, you said it yourself, the more people learn and understand that this is how this potentially could work, the more momentum this brings. And to your point, I think unions are on the wrong side of history. Question is, can we get them to shift gears and come over to the right side? That's the biggest question.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think that is a big question. But I do think that what you're seeing now in this country, there's a wholesale shift in the way people are looking at all kinds of different issues, things that we didn't think were going to be possible just a few years ago, for example, under the Biden administration. Now the movement in the country is certainly to a more common sense position. I certainly think that's the way it is in education as well. People have seen how the public education system has failed, especially during COVID-19. And, you know, how it's continued to fail even after COVID and not producing the results that it should be, despite the hundreds of millions, billions of dollars. That's right. Billions of dollars that Washington has sent down to the schools. And so, therefore, people are saying that, hey, we need something better for our kids. And, you know, we need more choices. And I think that's what the Trump administration is going to eventually give to them.
SPEAKER 19 :
Lance, how do folks find you at the Pacific Research Institute?
SPEAKER 08 :
They can find me at pacificresearch.org. That's our website, pacificresearch.org. My latest book is called The Great Classroom Collapse. It's about reading and math in America, and they can find it on Amazon or any online bookseller.
SPEAKER 19 :
Lance, as always, I appreciate it. It's been too long since you've been with us, and I always enjoy having you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks so much, John. It's always a great pleasure to talk with you, be able to address your audience.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. All right, article today in Colorado Sun, and I knew this was going to be an issue because I've been talking about this a little bit, maybe not in quite the detail that I'll get into today, but Colorado lawmakers finalized budget proposal. And this is the article's title. Here's what they cut to close the $1.2 billion gap and what they did. Now, I'm not going to get into all the minutiae of what they cut, what they didn't cut, and so on. What I really wanted to highlight today is, like a lot of things that I have issues with, is who serves on these actual committees. So I took some time this morning and went through each individual. I didn't dig into all of their past, but you can get a pretty good synopsis of what people have done in their life before becoming a politician and so on. And do they have any quote-unquote financial experience, financial wherewithal to actually be serving on the budget committee? In this case, the Colorado Joint Budget Committee. Keyword joint. Now, on this particular committee, there are one, two, three, four Democrats and two Republicans. Not surprising because there's a lot more Democrats there than there are Republicans. Another reason why we need better leadership in the Colorado GOP to have more of us Republicans represented there and so on. But that's we'll talk more about that on Tuesday. There's a big election coming up. Saturday, I haven't talked much about it because, frankly, I'm not too excited about what's going to happen and what the outcome will be. Too many knuckleheads in charge right now. We'll talk more about that between Andy and I on Tuesday, potentially. But let me go through the folks that are on this budget committee. The chair is Jeff Bridges. I don't know Jeff. He's a Democrat. who has zero previous financial experience. Keep in mind, he's the chair with no previous financial experience. Vice chair is Shannon Bird. She's also a Democrat. She has a B.A. in economics and earned a M.S. in finance and an M.B.A. from the University of Colorado Denver. But unfortunately, again, as an attorney, has no real-world financial experience. And just as a side note, and I'm sorry, if some of you have MBAs, that's great, and I admire you. It takes a lot to get a master's of business degree, and I understand that. Although I have met far too many of them. that literally financially and business speaking are dumb as rocks. I'm sorry. They could pass it, and they've got that degree, but could they run their own business? Probably not. I'm just saying it as it is. I'm straight up being honest. And again, if you have one, you know what? I appreciate that, and I'm glad that you do, and I'm glad you went through all that. And I've known, again, I've known individuals that have went and gotten these degrees and so on, and I admire them. It's something I don't have. Unfortunately, most of them that get it couldn't run their own business. And I mean that with all sincerity, and I'm not trying to be mean-spirited or anything along those lines, but just because you have an MBA doesn't mean you understand finance. You understand the book side of things, but not the real-world experience of what it takes to actually run a business. So that's the vice chair. Judy Amabile, I don't know if I'm saying that correctly, a Democrat. Now, I'll give Judy credit. She's a Democrat, but I'll still give her credit. She has and does own a business. So there you go. There's one person that actually owns a business that now sits on this committee. We go now to our side of the aisle for this next one. That's Barb Kirkmeyer, and I've met Barb, and I like Barb as an individual. I don't necessarily agree with her on all of her politics and where she stands. She also has only ever done politics and has literally no business experience. Sorry, Barb, but you don't. Unless there's something out there that is not printed that I could not find, you have no business experience whatsoever. whatsoever. Emily Sirota, she is a Democrat. She also has no business experience. She has done nothing but politics and social work. Rick Taggart, he is a Republican, I believe from the Western Slope. He does have business experience, also teaches some business things. So really, out of all of these people listed, all six, we have one Democrat, one Republican that have actual real business experience. And yet, all six of them are deciding where the billions of dollars of budget money is going to go in the state of Colorado. By the way, there's a $1.2 billion shortfall. So you have six people, four of whom have zero financial experience, two of which that do on this six-member budget panel. And it just baffles me. And I get that there's probably other individuals in the background that are helping and some aides and so on. And I understand that these are the figureheads, I guess you could say. But it always baffles me that we don't have committees made up of people with real world experience on how to fix things, budgetarily speaking. There's no Joe from Jersey. There's no John from Golden, myself, I guess, where I'm throwing my – there's none of us, and I could call on a lot of you, by the way, that call in here that have real-world experience, Dan from Blackhawk and others, where you actually understand how money works and budgets and so on. There's none of us there, though. There's two. And again, I don't know either one of those individuals personally, but from what I could read, they've got some business experience and probably understand a little bit about how some of these things work. But it always amazes me that we get these committees assembled, you know, politically speaking, and yet the majority of them have no clue how it works. They might understand the process. They might understand the budgetary process and how those things work and how the paper gets shuffled around. But as far as how to actually cut funding and still make things work at the end of the day, they're clueless. And I'm just being straight up honest. And if some of you know otherwise, and I'm somehow missing something here, by all means, give me a call. 303-477-5600. We have no other guests the rest of this hour. We got another half an hour or so left. And again, I'm always baffled. And I honestly didn't even get into the areas that they feel they need to cut because I'll be straight up honest. Does it matter? I'm being honest. Does it matter? They're going to do everything possible. The left is. They're going to do everything possible to eliminate Tabor, work their way around it, come up with new fees to work their way around it. On and on we go. And in Colorado, there's some big shortfalls when it comes to Medicaid and things like that that the state still has to help fund and so on. And like I continue to say, like the U.S., federal government has Doge. Colorado and, frankly, I think every other state in the union needs its own Doge as well. it would behoove these individuals, these six, to say, you know, guys, let's kind of take a pause here. Before we actually get this next budget out, and I know there's a rush, quote-unquote, to do so, why don't we have somebody come in and give us a quick analysis of what's actually happening internally in a lot of the different departments that we have, you know, the big ones. I'm not going to worry about the small ones, but let's take a look at all these big ones and figure out exactly where this money is going, and are we getting our money's worth? much like Doge is doing at the federal level. 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SPEAKER 19 :
Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Soren, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, while you were talking there, it made me think. Doesn't every company in their annual business meeting try to look at how to cut expenses and gain profit?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep. That's not the way it works in government, though.
SPEAKER 09 :
It seems like to me all the government is, That's right.
SPEAKER 19 :
You're 100% correct, Soren. They have no incentive whatsoever to cut back. None.
SPEAKER 09 :
Why do they want it? At least they could keep it the same. Why do they always want to expand it?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, because that's – if you think about, especially now that we've got Colorado being deep blue, the left's way of handling things, Soren, is you don't know. You and your family, you and your parents and your brothers and sisters and all of your siblings and their families and so on, Soren, they're not smart enough. to know how to handle life in general. So they, big government, has to come along and make sure that they can do what you can do for yourself. I say can do for yourself, not can't, but what you can do for yourself. They want to make sure that they step in because by George Sorin, you guys aren't smart enough to figure it out on your own. So they have to expand and get bigger because you're too stupid to do it on your own. That's their belief.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and then they tax multi-billion dollar companies. That's right. I think everybody can't figure that out. Well, if it's a multi-million dollar company, I think the founder must have known something.
SPEAKER 19 :
You got it. You're right. Absolutely, Soren. You're 100% correct. And the problem is your mentality doesn't work in government because they want to get bigger. You and I want them to get smaller.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. At school, we're taking a class, Survey of Christian Worldview. There's a The guy in there is talking about how our government was never initially founded to be an atheistic government. It works perfectly as a Christian government because that's already put in there that you would think, well, no, we need to not waste.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. Well, yeah, and if you look at what you're talking about in our Judeo-Christian values and the foundation that we have with God at the top and he's in charge, we don't need government to take his place. Government doesn't need to be there to, quote-unquote, assist anybody. Anyone, government needs to be there, and its proper role is to make sure that we have secure borders, number one, that we have a strong military to, again, protect said borders and make sure that we as a country can stay sovereign. That's their second goal. And frankly, Soren, outside of that, there isn't much of anything else they need to do. That's really about it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. Oh, it's just really interesting. The guy in that video series, it's called The Truth Project.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, yeah. I've actually taught it before. Absolutely. Yeah. Del. Del's a great guy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. It'd be really interesting to talk to him. But he has... So many good points in there. Yeah, our government was never meant to be an atheistic government.
SPEAKER 19 :
Nope, it never was. For everybody listening, by the way, if you can get a chance to go to one of those or get your hands on it, The Truth Project is a fabulous series. If I'm not mistaken, sir, I'm doing this from memory, it's a 12- or 13-week series, and you do about an hour a week or so, and it is well worth every minute of it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, for sure. We've been doing that in one class in our school. And it is by far probably one of the best classes I'm taking.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep. There you go. It's absolutely phenomenal. You got it. Yeah, I've taught it. I don't know how many different times. I did it quite a bit back in the day, probably a decade or so ago. I think it's been around that long or so. Well, I mean, it's been around long enough that I think I was doing it on either VHS or DVDs. I can't remember now. I've got it at home. I'll have to pull out what I've got and what it's actually formatted as. It's been that long ago, but now, of course, it's all on. You can just download it now.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, which is also kind of helpful.
SPEAKER 19 :
Exactly. Way better. No, it's awesome. And those of you listening, I believe you can find it on various sources, and in a lot of cases, Soren, they'll take a small donation, and you can have it, watch it, and it's well worth it. And if you can go to a class where you can collaborate with others, well worth doing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. It's a great series.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's very interesting. It helps you get an understanding of why our government has gotten so big.
SPEAKER 19 :
Mm-hmm. Well, yeah, and Soren, basically, and the premise of not only the Truth Project but others is, you know, the Marxist movement is to replace God. They want to become God in your life, and that's why, back to our point a moment ago, why does government, especially state governments, want to keep expanding? Because at the core is the Marxist movement that knows that the only way they can ever take over for God is to expand.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. My mom told me the other day, well, she read this somewhere, the new term for communism... And Marxism is just woke.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep. That's right. She's right. Smart lady.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, well, she must be. Her and Dad are both really smart.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and she raised you, so they must be.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'm probably the least smart of all my brothers.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, then they're really smart, because you are as well, Soren. Don't sell yourself too short. You're fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah, but they've all had a lot more experience.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, you will too. Just give it some time. You will too.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. It's just kind of interesting. You see that and you're pretty sure, well, government doesn't need to be that size. It should be smaller. And government doesn't need to spend so much money.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. You're right.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, okay, well, that's about all I had to say.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, you're it. Soren, I appreciate it very much. And by the way, everything Soren just said, he is 100% correct on, and so is his whole family, but his mom especially. And so thank you, by the way, for raising Soren the way that you guys have. You've done a great job. He's a great kid. We talk a lot outside of the program here, and he is solid. So, Soren, thank you for that. But, you know, government, state, in this case, state of Colorado, They want to continue to expand. It's what they do. It's what they're good at. And what they're now trying to do, and it's even in this particular article, is they're trying to figure out a way around Tabor. How do they get these things done? There's a lot of even road projects. And a lot of you read and have sent me the article about the gondolas that some knucklehead has an idea of putting in Tabor. downtown denver which by the way has to be one of the stupidest ideas i think i've ever read when it comes to getting people from one point to another and reality is yes they're going to do their very best to defray money from actual road bridge maintenance projects I'm not even talking about the expansion of. I'm just talking about maintaining and keeping what we have going on a high level. They're going to struggle to even do that because they're going to put money into some of these other things that I just mentioned a moment ago, mass transit and other things that I've talked about throughout the week. That's what they're going to try to do. So reality is, yeah, the budget in Colorado is in a bad shape. I don't know any other way to say it. They're trying to figure out ways to cut certain things. And as I've said numerous times, and I'll keep saying it, give me that budget. Give me a week of uninterrupted time, just a week, and I'll have it lowered by 20%, easily, 20%. And I'm not saying that in any kind of a boastful, you know, egotistical manner. No, I understand finances. I understand how things work. I also know enough about how how much waste there is in a lot of the government entities that are out there. I'll cut staffing. I'll cut things to make things work. I'll cut programs. You name it. I'll do it. And I'll lower the state's budget by 20 percent. Easy, easy. And for those some of you listening, oh, it's not possible. Actually, it is. Look what Doge is doing on a national basis and how much they're cutting. Look what HHS, what Robert Kennedy Jr. just talked about doing when it comes to HHS, taking it from 20 different arms down to just 13, I believe is what the number actually is. They're going to lay off 10,000 workers. I guarantee you in the state of Colorado, I could do very similar things. And on top of that, go through and look at some of the systems we've got, some of the IT things that are there that are needed and so on. And I can just go down the list and start in. Now, would I do all of that myself, by the way, me personally? No, I wouldn't do it all myself. I know enough people that would volunteer their time. For a seven-day straight period, guys like Jersey Joe even, that I guarantee you, if I said, Joe, here's what we're going to do, he would be out here in a heartbeat. And there's others among you listening where I could gather enough people together where easily 8, 10, 12 of us could get together and easily start taking chunks of that budget, each one, take a chunk of, and pretty soon go through and slash it like no tomorrow and at least get 20% out of it. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. Why this budget committee can't do that? Well, I already know the answer. You've got four politicians and two business people that are on there, and I guarantee you the majority of the politicians are pushing for things that, frankly, we don't need, while the other two are saying, well, why don't we cut this? Why don't we cut that? Why don't we trim this back? Why don't we trim that back? And yet you've got the other four that are most likely saying, well, we can't do that. My constituents won't like that. My voters won't like this. That's what happens in politics, by the way. I'm not exaggerating. You guys all know that. That's how the system works. They're going to look at that and say, well, you know, that won't work in my area. I can't do that. I won't get reelected. They won't say that out loud, of course. But believe me, behind closed doors, that's exactly what they're saying. And if they're not saying it, they're thinking it. Guaranteed. Well, if I do that, that's really going to hurt my chance for reelection. You know, who cares? Is this about what's best for the citizenry, you know, those that live in Colorado, or is this about you and your political career? And I can tell you what it is. For all of these politicians, it's about their political career. There's a few exceptions to that, and I know some of the folks down at the Statehouse, and they're not all that way, but far too many of them are more worried about getting reelected than they are in making a real difference in their community. And, folks, I mean that sincerely. That's on both sides of the aisle. That's on both sides of the aisle. If this committee was really serious— about getting the budget where it needs to be in Colorado, they would be doing exactly what I just said. Literally, they would be doing exactly what I just said. They're not going to do it. Again, because of what I just said. Getting rid of some of the things that, you know, some of them hold near and dear, they're just not going to do it. You know, one of the things, by the way, that needs to happen right off the bat, and I don't care if Polis ran on this, kill this stupid free, you know, preschool thing that we've got that's just sucking money out, which we don't need. Now, they're not going to do that because that's part of the Marxist movement. Get the kid, get him out of the home, let's indoctrinate him sooner than later, and pretty soon we'll have him in our grasp. That's why there's free preschool, by the way. I'm not wrong. That's why there's free preschool. It's why Polis and his cronies are doing what they're doing. Get the kids sooner than later. It's not to help parents, folks, please. If any of you believe that, you're dumb as a rock. That's not what that program's all about. It's not to help people. It's not because some people just can't afford to go to work if they don't have some place for their kids to go. Baloney. Baloney. I call BS on that. This is a Marxist move to indoctrinate kids at an earlier, younger age. That's what this is all about. And Polis and his cronies would have a hard time convincing me otherwise. Because I know who they are. I know their core. I know what they do. What's that old story? I don't know, Charlie, if you call it a fable or whatever you call it, but there's the story of the woman who sees a spider that's about to get eaten by a snake. And so she decides to go ahead and save the spider. It happens to be a very venomous spider that one bite could kill you. And so she goes ahead and does what she needs to do. She saves the, and you could use all sorts of animals, by the way, but in this case, it's a spider. So to save the spider, she does what she needs to do. She gets it saved. She's now got a hold of it. And once the spider is now free and it's saved and it knows that its life will be spared, it bites the woman. And as the woman now is being infected by the bite, she looks down at the spider and says, I just saved your life. Why did you do that? And the spider's answer is, well, that's what I do. That's what spiders do. In other words, that's at my core. That's why I can tell you that with Polis and this whole free preschool thing, it's not to help families. It's to indoctrinate your kid because that's what Marxists do, folks. That's what's at his core. And yes, indeed, he is a Marxist through and through. He will tell you that he's some libertarian and he believes in libertarian values and this, that, and the other. That is the biggest bunch of BS that you could ever hear. He is a Marxist through and through. He runs the state that way. Why else during COVID would he call all of you selfish bastards because you wouldn't wear your mask? Because he's a nice guy? Because he's a libertarian? Because he believes in freedom? Yeah, no, he doesn't. He is a Marxist through and through. So again, I know I got off track, but this is all having to do with the budgetary end of things. And I'm telling you, there's one way right there to help trim the budget. Get rid of free preschool. Cut it. Done. Out of here. Cut back on some of the government programs that are out there, some of the benefits that we as a state give out. Stop. Cut it. Again, I'm not exaggerating. I could cut that budget by 20% in a matter of seven days with no problem whatsoever, and yet we've got six knuckleheads. I'm sorry. I've got to call even some of our own folk knuckleheads. We've got six knuckleheads that, for some odd reason, can't figure out how to do that. Golden Eagle Financial, speaking of finances, Al Smith is there to help you with your future finances. Give Al a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, something that one of you sent me today, which, by the way, I appreciate. You guys send me lots of different articles and things, and I try to – I do read all of them. I don't use all of them on air because sometimes just time doesn't allow that to happen. This one, though, I wanted to squeeze in here before we exited today's program, and that is there's an article out on BankingDive.com. FDIC plans to eradicate focus on reputational risk. So what that means is in the past – up till now, and it really became a big deal under the Biden administration, the banking industry could literally say, you know what, we don't want to do business with you because we feel like you're functionally a big risk in what you do or who you are. So, for example, Donald Trump is the one that's kind of even pushing this through because there was a lot of companies that were doing things with some of his products, let's say, that were being told, you can't have a banking relationship with us because of what you do politically. Now, the banks will come back and say, oh, we never did that. We never refused to do business with somebody because of their political stance. Again, call BS on that. That's not true. Wrong. They were. There were gun manufacturers or gun stores and things along those lines to where because of that, certain financial institutions wouldn't do business with them. Now, again, the banks will come – it's even in this article. The banks will come back and say, well, we never did that. They did. What they did is they basically came up with some other excuse as to why they couldn't do business with said company. But really, at the end of the day, it was because of their quote-unquote reputation score. or their risk on the reputation score, I guess you could say. So their reputation risk is what I really should be saying. Well, evidently, the Feds, the FDIC, Federal Reserve is now getting some heat from probably the White House. And probably Elon Musk and Doge and others basically saying, hey, guys, guess what? You're not doing that anymore. That's not going to be an excuse any longer. You can no longer refuse to do banking with somebody. In other words, you can't debank someone, which is what they call it. You can't debank someone just because you believe that their political risk is too high. And this was happening, by the way, even among other Christian organizations as well. I could go back and go through some of the archives and read some of the things that I've even talked about here on air to where, you know, XYZ Bank wouldn't do business with XYZ organization because of their political views, their beliefs, whatever the case may be. And it has gotten out of hand, and it sounds like that's going to be reined in now. because of our current administration and again elections have consequences this is one of the pluses to that now again in this article even you'll see some of these uh bigwigs from like jp morgan and bank of america basically say that you know we bank everybody the real question was about over regulation frankly this is the bank of america head saying that um Yeah, no, again, I'm calling BS on that because, no, you guys actually, there was news stories even where you decided that you weren't going to do business with this particular gun manufacturer or this gun store or this entity because of whatever. And, yes, it typically came down to how they felt politically speaking or in the case of a gun manufacturer because of what they felt was a risk because of them being a gun manufacturer. And again, to me, this is going to have some long-reaching positive implications because no longer will they be able to, quote-unquote, discriminate against someone because of what they do business-wise that might be related politically or just foundationally, for example, on the gun sides of things. They're no longer going to be able to say that, you know, we can't do business with you because of that. I mean, it has been very discriminatory in the past along those lines. And the left, of course, they're always worried about making sure everything's fair. No, they don't. No, they don't. They're hypocrites. They don't care about things being fair. They care about them being their way, but they could care less about anything being fair. As I always say. whatever they're usually complaining of is the very same thing they're doing. And that happens over and over and over again. So the reality is, you know, they will whine and complain this whole signal thing. They're whining and complaining about some of the folks that are on that team and the text messages that went out and so on. And like Bob Duco says, do I agree with the way that went? No. Should there be some consequences? I think there already has been. Did anything bad happen out of it? No. Should people lose their jobs over it? No. We better make sure it never happens again. What's interesting is how that got leaked, and I think that's actually going to be a bigger story maybe even going into next week as to how the Atlantic journalist actually got added into the string. I think that's a bigger story that we'll talk about maybe next week as more and more of that details, more and more of those details come out. All right. Last but not least. 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Paul, I got 15 seconds. Go, sir.
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Yeah, related to FDIC, what agency would regulate the credit card categorization now tracking the firearm sales and sometimes ammo sales?
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Same. It would be the same. They would do the same thing.
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Okay, I'll have to contact them and tell them to try and scrap that. All right.
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Awesome. Paul, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Guys, have a great night. We'll see you tomorrow. Yes, we've got two movie reviews we'll have, and then tomorrow's rental hour will be movies about sports. That's it for tonight. Have a great evening. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
Join Kim Munson as she delves into the intricate dynamics of political malfeasance and legislative actions that push the boundary between force and freedom. In this episode, she is joined by Alan Thomas to discuss the upcoming GOP organizational meeting and its implications on the local and national level. They also passionately explore taxation, legislative overreach, and the crucial need for clarity and truth in policymaking. In the second half, Kim engages in a heartfelt conversation with Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix, co-founder of the Center for American Values. They discuss the significance of valor, commemorative stories, and the vital lessons that past and present heroes teach us about courage and sacrifice. This conversation serves as an inspiration as we face modern ideological battles within our communities.
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It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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An early childhood taxing district? What on earth is that?
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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I don't think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can't understand that.
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. Welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Friday, Producer Joe. I know he's talking to us, but he has to hit a button.
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Happy Friday, Kim.
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And it's good to have you behind the boards. I know there was a little traffic out there, so great to have you. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. That comes out on Sundays. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. Text line is 720-605-0647. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And you can catch us on all of the KLZ 560 platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. Apparently, if you say play KLZ, Alexa comes in loud and clear. And then once our podcasts are posted, you can find those on the streaming services such as Spotify and iTunes as well. And pleased to have in studio with me, Alan Thomas. And Alan Thomas is an author here at the Kim Munson Show. He's also the newly elected first vice chair for the Douglas County GOP. So it's great to have you here.
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It's always great being here, Kim. Thanks. Thanks.
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So a lot's going to be happening with the GOP this weekend. So set this up for us. Are you going to be down in Colorado Springs? And what's happening?
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Yeah, so we have the state GOP organizational meeting. So this is where we'll elect the governor. chairman or chairwoman for the Colorado GOP and the secretary and the vice chair. So a lot going on. There's also a lot of multi-district meetings today, tomorrow, such as like a judicial district. So one that kind of spans several counties. They'll have their organizational meetings where they'll elect all their officers as well. So if you can't tell from my voice, I kind of came down with something. I know.
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It's like, are you changing your voice, Alan Thomas?
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Yeah. The last thing I want to do is get all the great Republicans in Colorado sick. So they offer a Zoom option. So that might be what I'll be taking just to avoid spreading. I mean, it's not that bad. It's more I lost my voice yesterday and just a little sniffle. But It's never fun spreading that around.
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Yeah. And there really is something going around big time. So it's that season. But it's great to have you here.
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Always great being here.
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And your piece that we're going to be talking about is you've titled it The Wonderful Political Malfeasance of the Left. And it is super interesting what is happening in our country right now. So we'll get into that. here in just a moment. But as you all know, we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate or altruistic to take other people's rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, their childhoods, or their lives via force. And force obviously can be a weapon, but it can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation and fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. This agenda by the World Economic Forum, globalist lease agenda, United Nations, this Colorado state legislature, what they're doing is unbelievable down at the statehouse with the behest of the governor. But they use land use codes, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. That list goes on and on. And, Ellen Thomas, it's not okay.
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It's not. And, you know, we finally get a little bit of a break with the legislature to debate budget now. I think the long bill is finally getting proposed. So that's going to be interesting how they've tried to cut out of our budget. And, you know, as we well know, of course, the Democrats have been pushing this off for years and years. And we have a structural deficit now in Colorado. And from all that I've heard, they haven't addressed that structural deficit yet. through this next long bill, this budgetary bill.
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And they've been trying to address this different ways by taking more and more of our Tabor refunds because what they've done is they've overcollected taxes from us under Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. They're supposed to give it back to us unless we vote and say it's okay. But as I'm watching as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, they are going through I think gyrations will have to be one of our great words maybe next week of the day. But going through all kinds of gyrations, sometimes with the help of Republicans, which is very frustrating, to keep more of the excess revenue. Somebody said don't say revenue. Excess taxes that they have taken from us, Alan.
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Absolutely. And, you know, it's kind of interesting, too. You know, we saw the Democrats try and say that Republicans were trying to cut Medicaid here in Colorado and actually didn't. Judge said, no, absolutely not. You can't say things like that and had to take those billboards down. So we still see the political games of the fact that Republicans haven't had a majority since this has been an issue. Well before 2020, Republicans have not had a position of power at the state level. And so for Democrats to even attempt to blame this on Republicans is you hope that the voter in Colorado can know and understand that because this is something that has to be owned by the Colorado Democrats 100%.
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Well, and we have to shed light on that. Elections, you're alluding to elections. Elections are super important, and there's new developments regarding elections, regarding our Colorado 2024 election project, the executive order by President Trump. And I hope that we can get into that a little bit later at some point here in the show. Kane is going to join us as well. You're our featured guest in hour one. Kane is our featured guest in hour number two. And... Let's just go ahead and let's get into this, the things that we like to do. First thing is our word of the day. I decided to use the word malfeasance because that was in your title. And it's spelled M-A-L-F-E-A-S-A-N-C-E. And it is a noun. It could be misconduct or wrongdoing, especially by a public official. Or number two, the doing of an act which a person ought not to do, evil conduct or an illegal deed. And with all of the assault upon our Second Amendment rights down at the statehouse, I think it's downright malfeasance, Alan Thomas.
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It absolutely is. And, you know, the title that I kind of chose was The way the left has been politically outmaneuvered by Trump since the very beginning of his presidency, it really should be called malfeasance for what Chuck Schumer and all the leaders in the Democrat Party have done. Trump has outflanked them at every turn. And it's it's a wonderful thing for us to watch that type of malfeasance.
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Yeah, and to see it being addressed, we'll just put it that way. So next thing, Bill of the Day, and thank you, Ben, for Senate Bill 25-183. This is coverage for pregnancy-related services. And this is the complement, if you will—I don't think complement's the right word—to prop— Let's see, 79, I think it was, that was passed by the people of Colorado that basically says that we, as an amendment to the Constitution here in Colorado, that abortion can be done right up until the time the baby is born. And we're going to have insurance pay for it. Medicaid's going to pay for it. So you just mentioned they're saying we want to cut Medicaid. But here in Colorado, they want to take tax dollars to use that to abort babies here in Colorado. One way to make sure that you're not... undercutting Medicaid, if you will, would be to not expand these services to do this. And so anyway, and I need to give you the information. Everybody has the sniffles over here today, so it's one of those things that's going around. But this bill is Senate Bill 25-183, and I want to get the sponsors for you on this as well. Hang with me. I thought I had that right at my fingertips, and I didn't.
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And, you know, Kim, this is an interesting point. When you have a right for something that somebody else has to provide a service for, this is why we talk about rights the way that we do is at what point are you going to force somebody to do something they don't want to do if they have a right for it? And we always talk about health care as kind of the positive example of this, of, you know, if you have a right to an abortion, does that mean it has to be provided to you by taxpayers? Yeah. I can't remember if it was like Jim Jordan or Thomas Massey or maybe even Ted Cruz. One of them said, well, hey, if you have this right and the taxpayers have to pay for it, well, then where's my right to a gun then? Do the taxpayers get to pay for my guns and my right to the Second Amendment? So it's one of those very interesting questions that when you start to say we have a right and it needs to be in the Constitution, when you're not an astute political thinker, and you just start adding willy-nilly to the Constitution, you're going to get bills like this.
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Well, and this is Senate Bill 25-183. The prime sponsors are all Democrats on this. Senator Robert Rodriguez, Senator Lindsay Doherty, Representative Lorena Garcia, and Representative Julie McCluskey. And so that's where we are. And that's Senate Bill 25-183. And we really need to be engaging in this cultural battle for life. We have actually abdicated, I think, a lot. We didn't even realize it regarding this case for life. And what's the opposite of life? It's death. What's the opposite of creation? It's destruction. That's the bottom line of what we're seeing here. So that's Senate Bill 25-183. Ben, thank you for bringing that to our attention. And, again, you can't – and let's just mention this one more time. So there's this movement out there that there's this, quote-unquote, right to abortion. But that does not mean that you – if you choose to have an abortion, that you have a right to have taxpayers to have money taken via force from taxpayers to pay for that. And I think it's really important to understand. One other thing, you compared this to our Second Amendment rights. The Second Amendment, the Bill of Rights, was put in for a specific reason. This is not part of the Bill of Rights regarding this abortion up until the time of birth in Colorado. A lot of people don't realize that that's the case here, but it is. So, Alan, next thing, I wanted to get to our quote of the day. And it just happened that Medal of Honor Day was on Tuesday. And Drew Dix, who is a co-founder of the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, it is a very special place. You've got to get that on your bucket list to get down there. And they have portraits of valor of many of our Medal of Honor recipients and quotes by each of them. And I am sharing a Medal of Honor quote each Friday. So I'd reached out to Drew and said, hey, Medal of Honor Day was Tuesday. How about let's talk about it on Friday? He said, OK. Then I'm going through the Medal of Honor book, which I quote every Friday. And it's him. It's his quote for the day. So let's get through this, Alan, regarding Drew Dix, his citation. He was born in 1944. This is actions he took January 31 through February 1, 1968. This was a 56-hour battle, if you can believe it. So I'll let you do the first half, and I'll do the second half.
SPEAKER 08 :
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action and at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, Staff Sergeant Dix distinguished himself by exceptional heroism while serving as a unit advisor. Two heavily armed Viet Cong battalions attacked the province capital city of Chau Pha, resulting in the complete breakdown and fragmentation of defenses of the city. Staff Sergeant Dix, with a patrol of Vietnamese soldiers, was recalled to assist in the defense of Chau Pha. Learning that a nurse was trapped in a house near the center of the city, Staff Sergeant Dix organized a relief force, successfully rescued the nurse, and returned her to the safety of the Tactical Operations Center. Being informed of other trapped civilians within the city, Staff Sergeant Dix voluntarily led another force to rescue eight civilian employees located in a building, which was under heavy mortar and small arms fire. Staff Sergeant Dix then returned to the center of the city. Upon approaching a building, he was subjected to intense automatic rifle and machine gun fire from an unknown number of Viet Cong. He personally assaulted the building, killing six Viet Cong and rescuing two Filipinos.
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The following day, Staff Sergeant Dick, still on his own volition, assembled a 20-man force, and though under intense enemy fire, cleared the Viet Cong out of the hotel, theater, and adjacent buildings within the city. During this portion of the attack, the Army of the Republic Vietnam soldiers inspired... Hold on here. I've got to figure out where I put the other half of mine here. Here we go. So, during this portion of the attack, Army of the Republic of Vietnam soldiers, inspired by the heroism and success of Staff Sergeant Dix, rallied and commenced firing upon the Viet Cong. Staff Sergeant Dix captured 20 prisoners, including a high-ranking Viet Cong official. Now, that is a very interesting story that I've heard him tell. He then attacked enemy troops who had entered the residence of the deputy province chief and was successful in rescuing the official's wife and children. Staff Sergeant Dix's personal heroic actions resulted in 14 confirmed Viet Cong killed in action and possibly 25 more. the capture of 20 prisoners, 15 weapons, and the rescue of the 14 United States and free world civilians. The heroism of Staff Sergeant Dix was in the highest tradition and reflects great credit upon the U.S. Army. Cool. Wow. It's quite a story. And this is what I love this quote. And he has this on the bottom of his emails as well. He said, nothing is ever as bad as you think it might be. And that's Drew Dix, co-founder of the Center for American Values. Get it on your bucket list to go visit the center. Support them. And you can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. This all happens because of our sponsors. I know them all personally. And Roger Mangan has been in business for 48 years, serving his customers, providing for his family, and giving back to his communities. And so for help with your insurance needs, call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. Drew Dix is on the line with us. He is co-founder of the Center for American Values. Drew Dix, we were talking about you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, good morning, Kim. It's always good to be on your program.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it's good to have you on as well. And Drew, I've gotten to know you through all of the different things that you do down at the Center for American Values. So let's talk a little bit about the center first, because it is a very special place. And the Portraits of Valor of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients, it's a really reverent place. And people understand that when they walk into the center. It's so important.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, Kim, and it's special to me because I knew every single one of those people when we started photographing them since about 1999. So that's a special place. But it's also special that I can tell their stories to the youth and their parents about the sacrifices made for the country because, you know, If we didn't have people willing to make risks for each other, then what do we have? That's a sure symbol of a country and being united. And the thing that we like to say is that we don't preach war, we don't talk about war, but the examples of those actions that those fellow recipients did on the battlefield, it Bad times are an indication of people coming together and that some good comes out of bad things. And that's why I say there's nothing ever as bad as you think it might be.
SPEAKER 13 :
I love that. I love that quote. And Drew, I take great heart from these stories and the different people that I've met at the center, because in a way, I think we're also we're in an ideological battle. And what I've learned regarding the Medal of Honor, first of all, you don't win it. It is awarded. You are a recipient of it. So it's not a competition. Right. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's absolutely right. I don't know anybody that could try to, quote, win one and survive. You just don't do it. And in fact, the situations are so unique that it comes so fast and the situation changes so fast that you don't have time to plan that thing. And what's so remarkable is those that were with you are the ones that think you were worthy enough to receive the medal. That's what's making it so special.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right, because there has to be witnesses to the action, and you have to be recommended for the medal. And so it's the highest military honor that can be bestowed upon someone here in the military. But I think one of the key things that I've learned regarding the Medal of Honor is it is awarded because when the situation presented itself, these men took action. I think there's one woman that maybe received the Medal of Honor, but it's these men stepped forward and took action when the situation presented itself. And, Drew, I take heart from that as we're in this ideological battle. In fact, the two men that are in studio with me right now, Alan Thomas and Kane, are stepping forward in this ideological battle to protect those around them. And so I take heart from those stories of our Medal of Honor recipients and put it into my everyday life.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, that's exactly right. The Medal of Honor recipients were in a war and we fought. against a visible enemy. But those, there's a lot of warriors out there that didn't carry a gun. In fact, the founders of our nation didn't carry guns, but they were fighters and warriors. And so my hat's off to all those that are doing what they can to keep us, the ship righted in the right direction.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, Andrew, the Center for American Values is nonpartisan and nonpolitical. And the values that it focuses on is honor, integrity, and patriotism. And I was having a conversation with one of our listeners, and she has family members that lean to the left. And so there can be this rift regarding politics. And she said politics can divide so many people. And I thought about it for a little bit, Drew, and I responded back. I said, I don't think it's politics. It's values. And I think that what happens is people... We need to come together on values. I think that there are those on the left that also have these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And so what you're doing at the center is focusing on that and not on politics. And I think that we can take inspiration from that, Drew.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think that's a very good point, and that's exactly the approach we take, is that we believe that all people should strive for honor and integrity and have patriotism for the country that gives them that privilege of living their life the way they choose. And I think the most important thing is that, yes, even those souls that don't quite get it, should strive for honor, integrity, and patriotism, and at least instill in the young people that. And if we all understand that, then I think the politics will be less divisive, less combative.
SPEAKER 13 :
So, Drew Dix, I know you are a true American hero. And whenever I am at these different events with you, I was up in Pinedale, Wyoming, when you had presented to all the kids up there. And it's something to just watch. young people as they they want to understand your story it seems that they're hungry for learning these things about our country and it's just does my heart good to see all these young people that you're interacting with and i think it gives you and me great hope for our country well it does and i think our young people since they're uh
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captive to these devices that we're talking on right now, that when they see us, they really are hungry, as you say. They want to hear it from the real person. And I think that's what we need to strive for is a little more of that and encourage young people to ask questions and go to the source and always think that there's two sides to every what you're hearing. And we tell at the center, and this is something that I always say, is that we don't tell young people what to think. We just tell them how to think and that they can think.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I love that as well. So, Drew Dix, you are starting a podcast, though. Tell us a little bit about the Drew Dix podcast. Sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we're happy to do that. It's really exciting. We're having fun doing it. The first episode under DrewDixPodcast.com was on Greenland. And what we decided is things that are in the news that are confusing to people or keep you up all night, we're going to talk about it. And I spent 10 years, 10 spring seasons, working off of Greenland on the sea ice on a government – classified government project tracking Russian submarines, Soviet submarines. So I have a little knowledge about that, and I wanted to share it, and it turned out to be a pretty well-received program. So the listeners can look at grudixpodcast.com and see for yourself. And if you like it, let us know.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I'm sure that they will. And your co-founder, Brad Padula, is a media guy. He's a documentary producer. And so the two of you together, just tell us how you decided to start the center, because I think it's a pretty interesting story.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it is. And so Brad, I got to know Brad about 19... when he filmed Beyond the Metal, because there was four of us living from Pueblo, Colorado, which is the only city that's had four living at the same time. And so Brad got to know us pretty well, and we'd already lost Bill Crawford and Carl Sitter, and Jerry Murphy, the other recipient, was not doing real well, and he was in the... a medical facility in Pueblo, and went to see him. So obviously he wasn't going to make it very much longer, and we sat down and were having a cold beer and talking it over. It was overwhelming, so we were just settling down a little bit. And we decided, you know, his story and other stories are going to be lost if we don't do something. And Brad's father, who had this building he just purchased, was renovating it, We left from having that beer, went right to him, and of course he was walking around this project, supervising dirt work or whatever, and approached him with his idea, and he looked at us and said, well, okay, what floor do you want? And that's where it got started. And on day one, when we opened the doors on the 10th of November, Marine Corps birthday, actually, 2010, it's been the same. And it looks pretty much the same. It was a very, very special place. We had the portraits that were purchased and donated to the center by Brad's father as well. And so when people come in the doors, they're just overwhelmed by the solemnness and the dignity of the place. And it's really special to see young kids lined up from getting off their buses and grousing around like they do, and you think, oh, they're going to come to the door and mess things up. But no, when they walk to the door, they get quiet. They look around. So that's how it got started, and it's been that way ever since.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I highly would recommend that people check out your website, AmericanValueCenter.org, and also your podcast, and that is DrewDixPodcast.com, correct? Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's correct. And the next one will be released next Wednesday. And it was an interesting subject, the readiness to fight and win the next wars. And that turned into a lively discussion. So I encourage all of you to look at that as well.
SPEAKER 13 :
Drew Dix, thank you for what you do. Thank you for caring for our country, for our youth, for all that you and Brad do there at the Center for American Values. And your final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thanks for thinking of us on Medal of Honor Day. It's a special day. Most of the recipients were in Arlington National Cemetery laying the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown. And what a lot of people don't realize, there are Medals of Honor awarded to the unknowns from World War I to Korea and Vietnam, actually, and then Vietnam. So it's special. So we're paying tribute to all those that fought, that may have earned the Medal of Honor and just never were able to wear it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Drew Dix, thank you for all the great work that you're doing. And we will see you soon. The next On Values presentation will be, I think it's April 16th. And Norma Donlon, who is the widow now of Roger Donlon, who was, wasn't he the first one to receive the Medal of Honor from the Vietnam War?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, Roger was 1964. I knew him well. It was the very first one from Special Forces. Actually, the first one in Vietnam that received him.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, and he just recently passed on, so that'll be a great event. Doesn't cost anything. RSVP by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. Drew Dix, thanks for all that you do.
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And have a good day.
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I forgot you pulled this, Joe. This is going to crack me up at least for the next few Fridays. That is hysterical. So thank you, Joe. Welcome back to the Kim Munchen Show. Thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy. from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. In studio with me is Alan Thomas. We're going to be talking about your essay that we'll roll out this weekend, The Wonderful Political Malfeasance of the Left. And Kane, the founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado, snuck in here as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for having me again.
SPEAKER 13 :
And you're a military guy, former police officer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Former law enforcement.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Drew Dix, I could tell it was really moving you. Yeah, for sure. And so it's inspiring to hear the stories of the past, these virtuous men who devoted their lives and sacrificed a lot so that we can have these freedoms. Yeah. I'm not sure that we as Americans really understand what's happening to us now, because we may not be at war with the marxicoms, but they're at war with us. I think it's an information war right now. But for the most part, people are still dying. People are being hurt by their policies. And so we need to recognize that and do something to protect our rights and our liberties. And these examples that you provide every day inspires me to just continue to fight and to know there's suffering and sacrifice involved.
SPEAKER 13 :
There is. And even with all that's out there, we are blessed. We are so blessed. And we have this duty to pass on to the next generation what has been passed on to us. And so with that, Alan Thomas. And you've got two little kids. I've got little grandkids. And that's why we're engaging in this battle, because I think about Washington, all the stuff that they put on the line. And I had a conversation just recently, and I've shared this a few times on the air, because this was a mental process for me, is one of my friends said, And there are those on the left that have somewhat celebrated the killing of the UnitedHealthcare executive, indicating there might be some righteousness in it because UnitedHealthcare had denied some insurance claims and people suffered because of that. Or now we see people destroying Teslas, which you are talking about in your article. And so my friend said to me, well, Kim, I said, that's not the way we're supposed to settle things in America. And he said, well, George Washington in the Revolutionary War, they used weapons. And I sat back for a minute. I said, that's true. But they used them because they wanted to get to liberty, and they wanted to get to a point where we wouldn't settle our differences like that. Hence the American idea and the American Constitution. And that's what makes us so unique. And that's why your article, I think, is really important, this wonderful political malfeasance of the left, although... I never underestimate the ability for Republicans to snatch defeat from the from the jaws of victory. So let's talk a little bit about this, because this is a really important piece that you've written.
SPEAKER 08 :
And before we do, though, I kind of want to address that point is the founding fathers did not take up arms in revolution except as a very, very last resort. That's what the Declaration of Independence actually is. It's a redress to the king saying, here's what we have asked for time and time and time again. We have tried to solve this through political discourse without the need to turn towards killing each other. But you have refused to give us these things that are necessary for governance of our colonies. And so we are going to send you one last time this declaration of independence and give you the ability to to redress any of these poor behaviors to govern us the way that we should so it's a little unfair it's more than unfair to compare protests and mobs to what Washington did because the founding fathers knew that as soon as they signed that document, they were signing up to either win independence or they were signing their death certificates.
SPEAKER 09 :
And so at what point were, were our founding fathers attacking just general citizens, unarmed citizens?
SPEAKER 08 :
They, they knew that they were attacking members of, the British government. Yes. And they knew that it was an act of revolution. And so to your point, It was something that was done with great gravitas and it was not something that was just out of the blue. And that's something also, that's a good point for Republicans to, to remember as well. I know we bandied about the word revolution for a while and perhaps we need to rise up and it's like, no, this is something that needs to be taken as a very, very last resort because it is so strong and heavy. But, um, to your point about snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory, it was kind of funny this, and this article is a little bit more lighthearted than, than some because of that. And, and one of the, one of the hilarious things that happened and the way I introduced the article is, uh, we had that government shutdown that was looming earlier this month. And for all intents and purposes, Republicans were going to be the cause of it, right? Uh, we have the house, we have the Senate, we have the president, uh, Of course, we waited till the 11th hour to start pushing a continuing resolution through. Like for all the narrative was about how Republicans have waited till the last minute. And if government shuts down, it's Trump's fault. It's Republicans fault. And then Chuck Schumer did the absolute. It was shocking. Unthinkable political absurdity of snatching. defeat out of the jaws of victory, he stood up there and said, well, we're going to make sure and shut down the government. We're going to filibuster. We're going to make sure if the government shuts down, it's the Democrats' fault. Or the Republicans' fault. Well, no, but he said that the Democrats were going to shut the government down. He said, we are going to use our filibuster to make sure this continued resolution doesn't come through. So... You know, even though he's got to blame, they, of course, tried to blame Republicans. But everybody watching goes, well, you're the one not voting for it. Right. So he he took the government shutdown onto the Democrats. And it was absolutely shocking that, again, when your opponent is making a grave mistake, you don't step in and save them. And. That's what the Democrats did with this continuing resolution. They absolutely stepped all over themselves and took credit for something that was going to be the Republicans' fault anyway. And it's something that Trump has masterfully done in his first term here. He's He's brought up these very large ideas, yet his implementation of them has started out in a brilliant way to put the Democrats between a rock and a hard place. And it's – the first example I brought up was the electrical vehicles, of course. He's brought on Elon Musk as Doge and gone after the federal government with a – with a blunt instrument to absolutely try and break apart these bureaucracies. And the hilarious part, the irony is there's a Democrat senator who, in protest of Elon Musk, ditched his Tesla for a Chevy Tahoe, a gas guzzling SUV. And you just sit there and you look back and you're like, well, I thought we were doing this for the environment. And yet you're advocating getting rid of electric vehicles. I mean, for how long has the push been for electric vehicles, for electric vehicle infrastructure all across the country? How long have the Democrats been pushing that? And yet the number one electric vehicle maker and distributor by far is Tesla. It's kind of interesting. The top two electric vehicles purchased last year were both Teslas. The Cybertruck came in at number five. The only manufacturer that shows up in the top ten twice is Ford at number three and number six behind Tesla. And so it's hilarious watching the... hypocrisy of the left as they tell us that we need to worry about emissions and climate change and yet they'll go out and now are targeting private citizens and their cars which presumably and this is the hilarious part right presumably a lot of owners of teslas probably fall into a more left-leaning Because they've probably bought these electric vehicles because they think that they're doing it to save the environment, to reduce their emissions, to reduce their carbon footprint on the world. And yet now the left is targeting their own. And there's plenty of right-thinking Tesla owners, of course. But when you look at these things happening in California, you have to presume that many of these Tesla owners are on the left themselves. And it's also ironic that it is now... The left that is painting and brandishing swastikas, not the right. I know. Isn't that crazy? It's something that we're truly beginning to see that what Democrats oppose is not what they say. Yes. They say that they oppose emissions. They say that they're for electric vehicles. They say that they want to oppose capitalism and all these things. And it's like, no, actually what they oppose is Trump. Lockstep anything that they can do, they're going to oppose Trump, even if it means it's going to be detrimental to their ideology and what they have pushed policy-wise for decades. Right.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. If you're a golfer and you would like to play the Ridge Golf Course, you've got a great opportunity. You can do that by supporting the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. in their second annual memorial golf tournament. And it is in mid-May. You can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. It should be a really fun time. And be sure and check that out. Alan Thomas, we're talking about your piece, The Wonderful Political Malfeasance of the Left. I know Kane is just chomping at the bit to comment as well. But this is really... It's crazy to watch what is happening with Teslas and Tesla's dealerships. Just a point. You'd mentioned Second Amendment in one of the previous segments. And I've seen headlines that there are Tesla dealerships that are even being shot at with firearms. I'm thinking, how did these people get firearms? Because I thought they didn't want people to have firearms. Yeah. Right.
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Absolutely. You know, the second example is actually pretty hilarious, unfortunately, as well. You know, Trump had brought up deporting, you know, illegal citizens all throughout the campaign. He made a huge push about this. And of course, the left kicking and screaming opposed him. But yet again, Trump. just absolutely outflanked them because as soon as he got in office, what was the number one thing he started doing? He didn't start just mass deportations of everybody that ICE could find that's here illegally. He found the gang members, the violent criminals, the violent illegal aliens that are here in our country. Now, Again, to a logical thinker, that makes the most sense, right? You know, regardless of your political belief about how people can get into the country, it's pretty common sense that, hey, if you get here illegally and then you want to start shooting, hitting, harassing people. beating our citizens, if you want to start going into these impoverished neighborhoods as gang members and through force and intimidation participate in the illicit drug trade, that's pretty top of my list of people that I want to say, yeah, let's boot them out. Like, you know, if you're going to put me and my family in danger, you don't deserve to be here in the country. And in aren't here illegally i have a pretty high regard hey maybe we should lock those those people up so trump goes after these violent criminals and what does the democratic leadership do they somehow want to stop these deportations they want them to turn the plane back full of these gang members and criminals and yet again just show them as absolute charlatans uh you know They say they want safety. They say they fight for the impoverished neighborhood. They say they fight for the little guy. But then when you can actually help these communities by getting rid of violent people, they're like, no, just because we oppose Trump and everything he talks about, make sure those people can't leave the country.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the other thing on that, down here at the Statehouse, is while they, Democrats, are standing up for criminals and criminals that are here illegally, they're working to, and there's 22 different bills with the word firearms in them, to take away the right of everyday citizens to be able to protect themselves against these bad actors. So they want to bring the bad actors back, and they want to say, no, you can't protect yourself. Cain, I know you might have something to say. Oh.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, my gosh. So, Alan, charlatans, I love that word. They're liars. They're pathetic frauds. And they have been since the 50s. I was saying on the break that Malcolm X despised these people in the 60s, 50s. He despised them. This is what the Democrats have done. As you said, these these criminals that are here harming how many rapes are enough? Is one rape okay from these people? I think that's too much. That's one too many. But what they did and what they do is they send out, and it started with the House Negroes. Excuse my French, but they send out their House Negroes to push people to violence. And I'm going to say some names. Raphael Warnack, Anna Presley, Eon. Ihan Omar, Cory Booker, Hakeem Jeffries, Al Wolfman Green, Benny Johnson, James Clyburn, and, of course, Maxine Waters.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
James Brown Wigs Waters. What do they do? They send them out. Do you know that 200 Negroes, 200 black people die every single week? at the hands of other black people. These morons never said one word. It's been going on for decades, and these House Negroes have never stood up and says, we need to stop the violence. A lot of these people that are killed are children. I know. Innocent bystanders, innocent men and women. They are dead. And not one black cockeyed has ever stood up and says, we need to do this. However, these criminals that are raping us, killing us, causing property damage, they step up and go, we need to hit the streets and make sure that these people can continue to rape your women. Listen, they're marxicoms. They hate you, Alan, because you're white. They hate Kim because she's a woman. They use people like me, a proud American Negro, as a weapon to destroy this country.
SPEAKER 13 :
And you're not going to let that happen anymore. So let's toss this over to Alan.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and it's this identity politics, right? It's something that's deeply ingrained in their ideology to split us into groups as opposed to. And this is really part of the malfeasance that they've been drawn into is. We're seeing now that they cannot stand on principle. We see that while they say that they want to be here to defend the environment, actually, as soon as they can protest Trump or Elon Musk by association, they're going to get rid of their electric vehicles. They're going to buy these gas guzzling cars as soon as they have the opportunity to say that they want to stand up for impoverished neighborhoods and actually stand up. for their own constituents in their own communities and say, hey, yeah, you know what? Violent gangs, bad idea. Let's get the bad actors out of the community. Instead, what they're going to say is, hey, you need to turn a flight around and bring them back. And then, you know, it's also funny because we're showing that the things that they care about most are money and power. And Elon Musk exposed this brilliantly today. through his investigations into USAID. And this was, again, another just brilliant way of Trump outflanking them and knowing that they would respond to the first battle, not necessarily to the best one, right? They could have easily said, you know what, violent gang members, we want to save that deportation battle for another day, for maybe a sob story.
SPEAKER 15 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
When we get the mother or the child that Trump is sending back, I mean, not one U.S. citizen is sobbing over a violent gang member, a gangbanger going back to Venezuela. Not one of us is. And it's funny because when you're in a tough economy, the number one place that Americans say we need to cut first is foreign aid. It makes sense. Again, you know, it's like when our economy is tough, what's the number one thing we want our taxpayer dollars going towards? Not other governments, not towards transgender operas in Colombia, not towards DEI in Serbia. And Elon Musk came in and said, here's what's happening in USAID. And The Democratic leadership just has absolutely gone to war to defend all of this money being spent fraudulently and wastefully in the USAID. And so it's nice that we can we can sit back, allow the left to just get outflanked by Trump and show and illustrate how terrible this Democratic leadership truly is.
SPEAKER 09 :
And they're supporting an agenda that will take my money and tell me to my face, I'm going to use it to destroy you.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that's one of the things that's, gentlemen, we are out of time in hour number one. We're going to come back in hour number two. Our quote for the end of the show is from Thucydides. And he said this, the secret to happiness is freedom and the secret to freedom is courage. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. My friends, you're not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
SPEAKER 13 :
Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasure, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history and we were placed in Colorado, which is at the tip of the spear. because this is where the battle is and lots of exciting things that are going on and we're going to talk about some of that let's get right into it though first of all hooters restaurants had lunch over there with kurt gerwich yesterday great fish and chips they have great specials monday through friday for lunch and for happy hour a great place to get together to watch the the games and i know alan thomas that you are a basketball fan how is your bracket
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I have Duke going all the way, so it's still looking pretty good. But that was a good game last night. And then, of course, I was up way too late before you have to get up for a 6 o'clock radio show watching Texas Tech come back 16 down to win it in overtime. Really? So that was a good late game for us last night. But another fun, you know, it's so fun watching these. I mean, you truly have to remember that they're, 18, 19, 20 years old competing at a stage like this and the joy of victory, the heartache of defeat, and just the stories that you hear about these young kids and what they've gone through to get to where they are. It's a fun tournament. It's the best sporting event, in my opinion. Duke is a pretty easy pick, though, right? Yeah. I mean, they've been my favorite since I was little. You know, Coach K and J.J. Redick and all of those good ones. So I've always been a Duke basketball fan. And Cooper Flagg actually should still be in high school. He reclassified in order to play up this year. And he's the best player in the country. And they are a pretty easy pick for winning the whole thing. And they look good last night.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK. Well, and I realize you should not pick your bracket on emotion because I had KU and Houston in the finals. And I know that KU had a terrible record, but I thought maybe they'll rally. And so don't do it, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't really follow a lot of sports, but I do want to say something about Hooters. Renee and I went to Hooters back maybe two or three weeks ago.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, up in northern Colorado.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, in Loveland, I believe. They have a fish taco that is out of this world, and it's massive. And so I got the fish taco. You get three with the order, and then I also got the fish and chips. I've been looking for a good fish and chip place since we got here seven years ago. It is 100% delicious. The service is amazing. Charlie, who was a young lady who helped us, their service is absolutely. I mean, I'm a former restaurateur. I've owned a couple of restaurants. Their service is outstanding. Initially, Hooters, you might feel like, well, that's not a family restaurant. It is. Take your wife, take your kids, and go have some great food.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the story, I think both of you know it, how I got to know them was when I was on city council. And what had happened was is one of the things that we were supposed to do was to approve liquor licenses. And I think that's a whole other question. And I can't even tell you, having these restaurateurs that come in and ask for their liquor license and to see them being dressed down by city council people and the mayor, saying that we're going to come in and we're going to do sting operations and see if you serve somebody under the age of 18. And I'm thinking, wait a minute. I never really liked all that. But anyway, so Hooters Restaurants is going to – they were taking over a property that had been at TGI Fridays that had gone out of business, so there had been a liquor license there. It was a no-brainer. It was zoned for a restaurant. No-brainer. And it was primarily women on the left. Now, I have a friend who's become a friend and a very faithful Catholic, and she was concerned about the uniforms. But take a look at any of the professional cheerleaders or your high school volleyball team.
SPEAKER 09 :
In fact, Renee and I were talking about that when we were eating. I go, there's no difference in that uniform than what girls wear on the volleyball court. Yeah. Zero difference. I know. And again, their service is just immaculate.
SPEAKER 13 :
But I think, Kane, as I looked back at this, I really felt that this, now as I look back, it was early on assaulting women... Being women. Yes, ma'am. I think that was it. So anyway.
SPEAKER 09 :
All of this has been going on for decades and decades. I think I may have told you in a previous episode that I looked through a yearbook from junior high school. And in the yearbook, it had a black African-American club or something like that. There was no other clubs. And there was only black people in here. This was when I was in eighth grade. This has been happening to us forever, and it's high time we stopped taking it. And just our strongest weapon, Alan, is our voices. You speak loud and often. Tell the truth.
SPEAKER 13 :
So going back to the story, and I've told it a few times on the air, but I'm sitting there, and again, it was standing room only. The mayor apparently had already kind of— said this makes sense so they'd started construction you know in private enterprise time is money and but all of a sudden the mayor who had an r behind his name but did all kinds of radical left stuff because you had to be an r at that time in douglas county to get elected um And it's standing room only, and it's primarily women on the left that say, we don't want this here. And I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking, if you don't want it here, you just don't go there. You don't go there, right? And they can compete in the market if people... don't go there, they'll go out of business. If people do go there, they'll stay in business. And if you don't want to go there, you don't have to. But they wanted to use government to say, you can't come in here.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, and that's been the agenda of the left, is I don't like it, and so that means you're not going to like it. And so we're going to control everything, which is taking away from our freedoms and our liberties. At every level, on every platform, everything they do, they attack us and our liberties.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I make the motion to approve the liquor license. I look to the mayor and my other colleagues to second the motion. Again, standing room only. All these people have come in and accused them of all kinds of stuff. They have accused them of the stuff that these gang leaders or gang members have been doing that we're deporting. But anyway. Yes. And there was no second. And I said, I would like to address what's going on here. And the mayor would not let me speak and said, OK, at council comments. So I waited till council comments and I started. I said, this is about freedom. And he shut me down and would not let me speak. So at that point in time, the meeting adjourns, and the city councilwoman to the next to me said, Kim, I want to talk with you about this. I said, we'll talk, but not right now. I was so mad about it. I said, this is about freedom. And she says to me, oh, you think you're the queen of freedom. So at that point, the police chief comes up and says, would you like me to walk you to your car? And I said, absolutely not. I can walk to my car just by myself. I was so frustrated. We went home. We issued a press release. And social media blew up because this was a foundational question. And people on the right and people on the left and libertarians, everybody said, what is the proper role of government? Is this the proper rule of government that we can decide that legitimate businesses cannot be in business? And fast forward this, Cain. This was before COVID. This was 2015. A neighbor of mine called, and she said, Kim, as a Christian, how can you be standing up for Hooters? And I said... Let's have coffee. And I explained to her, I said, when government starts to say which businesses are OK and which aren't, we're going down a very dangerous road. What if what if government says they don't like the doctrine of this church over here and they won't let you have that church? Right. And then you fast forward it to COVID and you've got government saying that there are some people that are essential and there are some not. And that's why it was such an important stand.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, it's freedom.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's freedom. So, Alan, I'll go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I was just going to say one of the one of the more beautiful lines in the very first Federalist paper actually addresses this. And it's a it's a lesson that can be applied to politics, to religion when they say persecute or heresy is rarely persecuted. Not even rarely. Heresy is not cured through persecution. And you have to sit back and you have to say, OK, if I oppose Hooters, is the best way to oppose them through persecution? Or is it through getting to know people, influencing them and changing their hearts and their minds? And that's the point. that the first Federalist paper makes is, hey, you don't want to use the fire and the sword to change people's mind because you're not actually changing their mind. You're intimidating them. You're using the threat of power and force to force their actions. You're not actually changing how they feel, how they think about things. In fact, a lot of times you reinforce their belief. Because they sit back and they say, if you have to use threat and intimidation and power to change my mind, I must be thinking the right thing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and you can see that through Tesla and all that. So just to button up the story, and then we'll do our word of the day and all that when we come back. But the city attorney pulled us in a few days later and said, you guys don't have a leg to stand on. Right. And that from the Supreme Court, there is a decision that you can't do this. And so two weeks later, another city council meeting, standing room only, and we know that we must approve this liquor license. And so, again, the whole presentation, everything happens, and the mayor calls for a motion to approve, and they all look to me. to make the motion, but I know that they have to. So I just went, do, do, do, do, do, do. And so somebody else had to make the motion. They looked for a second. They all looked to me. I went, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And so they seconded it. So it was approved unanimously. So then fast forward. A few months later, and the head of the Colorado Restaurant Association called and she said, Kim, Brian and Tom would like you to be the guest of honor and cut the ribbon. For the new Hooters restaurant. Wow. And I said, well, okay. And so I have this picture of me with the beautiful Hooters girls cutting the ribbon with the owners. And I actually presented the story when I received the Leadership Program of the Rockies 2016 Leader in Action Award. And I said, I'd like at the end of this to put that up on the screen. I said, this is what freedom looks like. Yes. And Tommy Lahren actually talked about it on our national show. So anyway, I get off the city council. I wait. We now are friends regarding.
SPEAKER 09 :
And if people have, if you have an issue or concern with the uniforms, pretend that they're cheerleaders. How about that? Because I've seen some cheerleading uniforms that make hooters look like choir girls.
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Okay.
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And so, but here's the thing. The left, conservatives fight for freedom and liberty for everyone. Yes. Mostly for the left because they're not capable or even understand really what's happening to them and our country. So when we fight, even though we have disagreements with them, we have our team. We are all on, you know, 51% of the country is all independent. For freedoms and liberty and the Constitution. And if we don't defend it for them. Right. If we don't defend it for them, we won't have a country. We won't have a Constitution. We won't have it.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. Alan Thomas, our word of the day goes to your essay, malfeasance. It could be the misconduct. Oh, I have to spell it for Eric. M-A-L-F-E-A-S-A-N-C-E. It could be misconduct or wrongdoing, especially by a public official. Should we just put some names next to that as a definition?
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We've seen a lot of malfeasance from some political leaders on the left, shall we say. Yes, we have. And from... Doge has exposed a lot of malfeasance as well. You see a lot of these bureaucrats using their positions of power to use the taxpayer's dime as a credit card. And it's absolute malfeasance.
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Okay, so the next thing I want to ask you is the doing of an act which a person ought not to do, evil conduct, an illegal deed. I think it's downright malfeasance, NPR. Did you see the head of NPR in the hearings? Was it yesterday? Boy, that was – and somebody sent this. Now, I've not sourced this, but they said that she's either on the board or CEO of Signal, right? which just happened to have that signal chat. I need to source that to make sure. So don't quote me on that out there yet. I try not to do that. But anyway, I found that was super interesting. And speaking of taxpayer time, you know what? I buy my airtime. I pay for it. I tell you what, a few million dollars would go a long way for the Kim Munson show if you took it from everybody and then gave it to me so that I could be on the air. That's what's happening with NPR, Alan Thomas.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I thought the one question of, hey, your whole editorial board is 87 Democrats and no Republicans. And You know, of course, this is what they do is when they're in power, there's no hearings about there's no question. And when they're not, it's it's deflect, deflect, deflect. Right. Oh, well, we don't ask what political affiliation they are. And it's like, OK, well, if you're a news network and you have this absolute echo chamber of an editorial board. Maybe something's wrong. It doesn't take looking at the personal registration of all 87 to realize, hey, nobody is advocating a single Republican idea. You know, nobody wants to pitch a Republican story for NPR at all. It's like, OK. You may not have asked their political affiliation, but you knew exactly what you were doing. They're frauds. You knew that you were. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, no. Yeah, you knew that.
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I'm trying to be disciplined, Alan. They are frauds and they're criminals. Why are they taking our money? And again, it goes back to what the strategy is from the Marxicoms. I'm going to take your money. We're going to use it. to destroy you at every single level. And it's high time that we wake up as conservatives, no, as Americans, and understand. If they're doing this to Democrats, guess what they're doing to the left?
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So with Doge, I think everyday people are going, wait a minute. And of course, when you start to get comedians involved... in politics, you know that's when you're winning. So apparently there was a meme out there that said, why are we giving other countries money to hate us? They should be able to hate us for free. NPR, why should we be giving them money? And This is another thing that NPR used to have this reputation of academics, that I listen to NPR, so I am very smart. But quite frankly, it was what we've seen in indoctrination, and they're using taxpayer money to do it. Cut the money off. Speaking of the Colorado budget, I don't know if we said it on the air or in between, but... One of the things that Trump needs to do, Doge and all, is cut the money off. So we're going to see doubling down at the school board, the local, the county, the state, and the national level. And how do we stop it? We cut the grant money off. And I know we're going to talk about that, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Hang on to your hat because these folks at these school boards, these school districts are not going to get the money. And the very next thing they're going to do, because they think we're dumb, they're going to raise our taxes. Those mill levy tax deals that they run.
SPEAKER 13 :
Mill levy overrides.
SPEAKER 09 :
Overrides. They're 100%, which is why they're not worried. We went to Thompson School Board the other day over some silliness with my good friend Nancy Rumfeldt. They are not worried because they know they think we're dumb. They think the citizens will just continue to pay so they can push their CRT, the DEI, the transgender stuff, the grooming that they're doing of kids. So let's talk. Let me say this. Say no. Am I yelling? Say no.
SPEAKER 13 :
Renee, he's yelling. Say no. So with that, we had Nancy Rumfelt on the show earlier this week, a Thompson School Board member who wore a T-shirt that said Real Women Rock. Her other school board members in Thompson School District wanted to have a conversation about her regarding her ethics in wearing such a shirt. We had her on the morning of this school board meeting. You were there?
SPEAKER 09 :
I actually came home from work, shot over there. I signed up to speak. I was the over 100 people that were in front of me. So I stayed for a little bit, and I went home and watched it on television.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it's insane. What they're saying about her is 100 percent lies. She is concerned about every single child in that school district, regardless of their race, creed, color, gender preference. She's concerned about them. She's just simply saying, I have a First Amendment right to say real women rock, just as the transgenders have a First Amendment right to be a man and walk around wearing a dress and lipstick.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, they can do that, but they can't come in. My understanding is in Thompson School District that there are boys with all the parts that can be in the girls' locker rooms. Is that true?
SPEAKER 09 :
That is 100% true, and they can play on the same team. And so the issue was a First Amendment right for Nancy, but also these girls are getting hurt. Now, what was surprising is the numbers of teachers in the school districts. that support males playing on girls' teams. That some of them had arguments like, well, that's not true. These women are just as strong as men. And so my challenge to the one lady who worked in the school district, I want to get in the ring with you and show you how this works. Just to be a police officer, we had very slight women.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm thinking maybe a guy might not want to get in the ring with you, Cain.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'll put on a dress.
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You know, it's Trump's address to Congress. It was funny. I was hosting the show right after that. And one of the takeaways, one of the more fascinating takeaways was all of the transgender issues, the voting public is backing Trump on. I mean, a majority of Maine voters are backing Trump's proposal about Title IX and actually opposing their own Democrat governor who's opposing Trump over this transgender issue. And And the thing that was most interesting about that, they had those placards. Right. Did you see those where they hold up false? And it was so funny because for most everything that he said, they held up their little false placards. But when he said when he addressed it directly and said men are men, women are women, you can't change. It was fascinating because it panned out and not everyone held up their little false placards. It was very fascinating that most of the Democrats didn't hold up that false placard because they know it's now a losing issue for the voters.
SPEAKER 13 :
So they didn't want to be photographed.
SPEAKER 08 :
They didn't want to be seen with their voters saying, hey, we believe in this transgender issue. And so while we may have a lot of very vocal voices at school board meetings advocating for this lunacy... It's very interesting because most voters agree this issue is ridiculous. It's been fabricated by the left. Everybody knows the truth. I mean, there's there's truth. It's written on all of our hearts. And we know that men are men, women are women, and that it is something mental if you think that you have to be the other. And so it's a losing issue for the left. But it is important to know that it's a losing issue and that while you have a lot of loud voices yelling at school board meetings, That's not the majority of people. The majority of people. know what the truth is. It's just we need that strength and courage to stand up and call it out and say, hey, you're not representing a majority of people.
SPEAKER 09 :
So we have to understand where this started. It was the left that hijacked the gay and lesbian community, just like they hijacked the Negro community. They needed the new victim. All victims get holidays. We got... Black History Month? Black History Month, February.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wait, why is it Black History Month and not African American?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, because we're not African American. We're Negroes. We shouldn't have a month. Yeah, okay. We shouldn't have a month. We shouldn't have a day. Who else has a month? The gays and lesbians, or the LGBTQ group. And so what happened is they needed to have the victims. What did they do with the Negro population? We became the most violent people on the planet. Violent from the 60s on. They removed the dads. We become violent. We kill each other. We kill everybody. What is the LGBT group doing today? They are some of the most violent people on the planet. The last three mass shootings have been LGBTQ person. going in and shooting up kids. A lot of them are on these protests. A lot of them are doing the damage to the Teslas. The lady that attacked one of our marchers, I'm sure she... Well, let's talk about that when we come back.
SPEAKER 13 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. A couple of things I wanted to mention. First of all, Drew Dix, our Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values, I'd recommend that you have that at home in your Freedom Library. And you can get that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. And, of course, the center is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. But Drew Dix said this. Again, 56-hour battle. Vietnam War, and he says this, nothing is ever as bad as you think it might be. We've got big challenges here in America, and in studio is Alan Thomas, an author here at the Kim Munson Show, guest host, and his essay will roll out as the wonderful Political Malfeasance of the Left, and Kane, who is the founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado. I was having a conversation just recently, and I said that There is nature's law, and in the Declaration, Alan, the founders refer to God four different times, but in different ways. The divine provider, nature's God. And nature's God, and we talk about nature's law on a regular basis. Nature's law, male, female. And this friend of mine said, but Kim, there are... people that men that are born with vaginas i don't know if i can say that on the air but i just did and um and vice versa i said that's an outlier i i said throughout the animal and plant world it's male and female um alan would what would you say to that to
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and it's interesting because when they say nature's God, it's actually hearkening back to Socrates. It's a throwback to the ancient Greeks and how they were able to use logic and thought to arrive at some of these ideas. And that's the beauty of our world. of our founding document is you don't even have to be a Christian to understand the logic of how you arrive at a nature's God. And part of the difficulty that we have is male, female, man, woman. These are such Yeah. And to have the very root of our language even attacked this way, it's difficult because it's like, okay, yes. Well, if I say a deer, if I say there was a deer in the road, you don't have to ask whether it had two heads or not, you know, but there are deer, you know, especially around Chernobyl that, that. grew two heads it's like okay there there may be outliers they may be maybe faint exemptions to the rule but for the most part this rule holds true 99.99 of the time and there is a male there is a female and it's funny you know at the break Producer Joe talked about the scientific method. It's like this is something that's written in our very DNA. I mean, this is something that's so unavoidable that when you do a DNA test of an individual, you can tell whether they're male or female. With both of my kids, we wanted to do the testing to know whether we were going to have boys or girls. It's something that you can test for. Even before you've been born and breathed your first breath of air, we know whether you're male or female. it's such an interesting discussion because it's like, we don't have to defend our position. You know, truth does not have to be coerced. And that's the difficulty of what we're facing is it's like, we're being coerced into thinking that male and female is something that's even debatable. It's not.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it is become a big debate. And Cain, what would you say to people that say regarding a site outliers, even under the second amendment, people cite out outliers. And so what do you say to that? It's,
SPEAKER 09 :
It's insane to me that we're having this conversation trying to determine male and female. The issue is you cannot make me call you, sir, a woman. I'm sorry. I'm never going to do it. And so they're trying to—the reason why all this stuff is taking place in our schools is they're changing the culture. I did a speech down in Parker last year, and I asked the group. I said, hey, at some point, it's going to be accepted, right? that there are women that have penises, okay? And then there are women that don't, that have the female part. They're changing the culture. So I say to one guy in the audience, what kind of wife, what kind of woman do you have? Does she have the penis or a vagina? Can I say that word? They are changing the culture. They're making it acceptable that we're going to accept this whole third or not even a third. They're going to we're going to accept the fact that a woman is no longer a woman.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Using these words on the radio, just drilling right down to it, I'm thinking at least where I grew up, we wouldn't say those words in mixed company, if you will. But our children are being taught this, and that's why we have to understand it. Because our kids are being taught this every day. And the other thing is the focus on those words, it makes individuals focus on the carnal stuff instead of the big idea stuff as well. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
The big idea stuff is their controlliness. They're harmed. This is damaging children every single day. This is grooming children. There's no way that a second grader should know about transgender anything. That shouldn't even be in the lexicon at all. Maybe not even until high school. But they are. These kids are changing our culture. I said it during the break. If you look at the black culture, they changed the black culture. Prior to the 60s, we were not violent anymore. The crime rates were basically the same as everyone else. They changed the culture.
SPEAKER 13 :
But what LBJ did, he said to, at the time, black women, but then it went to all women, hey, government will take care of you and your children as long as you do not have a man in the house. And I've got an anecdotal for you on that, and that is... A woman that I know had been a social worker back in, let's say, the 70s and was doing a house check. First of all, do you really want the government coming in and doing a house check? But if you're taking government money... Yeah, you have. Absolutely. So anyway, the social worker who leaned to the left, pretty self-righteous about it, gets into the house and she's doing her look around the house and she sees a man's feet underneath the bed. Well, it's the dad. And she told him to get out of there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mm hmm.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's what happened.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was done on purpose. It was done on purpose. If you remove the lion, the jackals will play. And so they've removed the lion from the black culture, and look at what has happened to us. They've removed the lion from the families because men should be, the majority of people at that meeting on Thursday were women. There were a few men that spoke, but most of them were women.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, because the other ones went home and watched it on TV. Some of them.
SPEAKER 09 :
You got me. Some of them. No, the men should be stepping up and going, Miss Jones, you ever talk to my son about transgender anything, I'm going to have a problem with you. Not the school board. Not the school district. I'm going to have a personal problem with you, sir, or you, ma'am, for grooming my kid. I told a story to another school district. My cousin, her name is Kim. Kim was being groomed when she was like nine years old. I would think I was 11, 12. And she used to talk about, hey. That long ago? So-and-so, so-and-so is showing me these books. And I'm like, what? And it was like Playboy and Hustler. And she was telling adults, this is happening to me. She got groomed, and then she was molested. Multiple times. By that person? By that person. Oh. So my cousin Kim became... When you expose children to that kind of material, they become hypersexual at a very young age. This is not coming from just a regular guy. I've heard professionals talk about these things. They become hypersexual at a very young age. Kim became a prostitute.
SPEAKER 15 :
Aww.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, Kim died 10 years ago. She's 55 years old. She was a prostitute the entire time. So when you look, I think one of the reasons why I'm so passionate about these books and what they're doing with the grooming thing These kids can't handle it. They're going to be making really, really bad choices, and they're going to be okay with it because the schools are grooming them.
SPEAKER 13 :
My father, who passed on a little over a year ago, had always said to me, he said, be careful about what you watch, be careful about what you read, be careful about what you listen to, because particularly when what you see, when those images are... put into your mind. It's imprinting. It's imprinting. So we have, that's why the work you're doing at Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado is so important. We're going to go to break. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors. If you've been injured, reach out to John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That's KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity. By looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And for a great golfing event in mid-May, check out the USMC Memorial Foundation for their second annual golf tournament out at the Ridge Golf Course. There's a limited number of golfers there, so make your reservation early. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Kane, it's great to have you in studio. You care deeply about golf. about our children. Right now, there's a big battle going on in Elizabeth, Albert County, that the ACLU is demanding. that these pornographic books be put back into the schools. And, again, they know what they're doing. They know what they're doing is if they can get these kids to look at this stuff, they know that they are imprinting that for a lifetime. Alan Thomas, you're a dad, and you're active in this. What's your thoughts on this?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, especially when it comes to books, there's a big difference between curating a book collection for kids, highly influenceable kids, and something being available on the open marketplace. And, you know, it's funny, you see all these school board meetings, these parents coming out and reading a book. And I guess my thoughts on this is if there's a book that's even questionable, if the board member is unable to read the book from the, From the stand, then it should not be in the school. I mean, there's we've known this for centuries. Again, this kind of comes back to the foundational issue that we're trying to fight in this ideological battle. Is this is there absolute truth and can it be known? Or are we going to accept the progressive premise of truth is relative? And that's the difficulty in having these types of conversations is you're coming at it and you're having these arguments with people that think truth is relative. There's my truth. There's your truth. There's. their truth. There's Z Zem Zer truth, right? And, and it's a difficult battle to fight because you're both coming at this from a completely different premise. And the premise is I'm saying that truth is absolute. It is knowable that you cannot change the fabric of reality by saying words and that, and they're coming at it from a completely opposite premise. And that's why it, When we go to how do you have these sorts of discussions, it's like you almost have to say, you know what, we can't even have a discussion about what is male or female until we have a discussion on truth, on is truth knowable and can we discover it? Because until you have that premise discussion, you're both going to be just fighting in absolute circles.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I'm checking the text line here. First of all, Susan says, I love the yelling. People should be yelling. Okay. But we're in Lent right now. And I heard a sermon one time regarding Pilate, and he's having this interaction with Christ. And there's the words, he says, what is truth, right? Right. And the pastor said, you could have that question with different inflection. So was Pilate being maybe more of a relativism and says, what is truth? Or was he asking the question, what is truth? And I thought that is so interesting to have that different inflection on that, Alan.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is. And you can get different points from different points of view because then Jesus throughout his ministry said, I am the truth. Right. And it's so fascinating as I've been kind of looking into Socrates. This was something that even Socrates was able to, as a non-participant in Judaism or Christianity, was able to logically arrive at the fact that there is a nature's God, that there is a God over nature, that there is this prime mover, that this is unassailable. And yet, if you were to have that discussion with anybody and say that you can logically arrive to the fact that there had to be an initial mover to the universe, that something had to put the universe into motion, because all of our... All of our thermodynamic laws all say everything goes to entropy, that nothing goes towards order. Everything goes more towards chaos and breaking things down than building them up. And you can logically sit here and say there had to be an original prime mover. You know, even if you don't believe in my Bible, we can come to that, that eventual end point. And we can say, hey, if we could come to that end point, then we need to have an end point with truth, too.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. And our God is a God of order. So, okay, Cain, and then we've got Gabby on the line, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
Just to backtrack really, really quick. Elizabeth is going to lose. They're going to have to put those books back into the schools. There was case law from 1985, Tattered Cover versus Tooley. where the Supreme Court here said they have a First Amendment right to have those books in the school. It didn't say you had to give them to the kids. It said it had to be in the schools. Elizabeth has a protection where a parent has to approve any pornographic book or any adult content book for their child. So that's something they can sign up for in the very beginning. And if a child checks out a book that's questionable, they have to notify the parent before they issue that book to that child. So the books have the right to be in these schools. Insane, but they have the right. It's a First Amendment right. The other thing is that it's a violation of federal law. So I say, I know what the truth is. I say, you belong in prison if you're giving kids pornography. Federal law, section title 18, United States Code, section 1466A. Look it up. You can do 20 years in prison for giving a child an illustration of a man naked with a child naked. There are – it's one of the pictures in a book called Gender Queer. They're all throughout Colorado. I know.
SPEAKER 13 :
You've sent that over, and I can't get that image out of my mind.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's insane. And so these are criminal – this criminal behavior by our school district, which is why I say take your children out of the government schools. They are not safe. If you cannot, you have to stand up and protect your kids. You have to scream. You have to yell. You have to say, excuse me, sir, if you give my daughter that book, I'm going to have a personal problem with you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, let's get over here. Gammy, let's make it a minute, okay?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I'm just calling in to say a few things. I wrote on the 003 gun bill again this morning. That was my fifth submission. And I hope that you all will read it because I pretty much told them to go home and get on their knees for the crimes they've committed. But there's a whole lot in there. But that's not why I called. I called because Kane's on there. And, Kane, I'm going to defer with you on one little point. I don't care whether you got a kid in that school or not, whether you pulled yours out or not. Your children will have to deal with the majority of children in that school, which is why every single parent needs to look at the real laws and violations of rights. You can put all the smut in the public library, but in the school library, there should be a firewall of protection. And in a workplace, People would be sued, fired, and personally sued for one millionth of what they are doing to our children. But you need to know this is coming from way up high. Excellent point. Because billions of dollars are involved, and they will not stop until you remove the funding for CELL, CRT, DEI, and show parents that we're not intolerant. We don't blame the trans children. We blame the sick criminals.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Thank you, Tammy. She's absolutely... So we've got about a minute. We've got two minutes left. Kane, I'm going to go to you first.
SPEAKER 09 :
I just want to acknowledge our team. First of all, we're at TaskForceFreedomNoCo.com. You can go on and take a look at all the pornographic books, all the stuff that we've been doing the last four years. I know it's insane, but also we have amazing team members. Thank you, Mama and Papa. They know who I'm talking about. And I want to promote Devastated, which is a A documentary that was put together by my good friend Stephan Tubbs about the fentanyl crisis here in Colorado. It's not political. It's just telling stories about what has happened here in Colorado. I will make it political. After you watch it, you have to ask yourself, why did our government allow this to happen? Why did they allow people to come in and harm us?
SPEAKER 13 :
One more time, that website?
SPEAKER 09 :
TaskForceFreedomNoCo.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
Alan Thomas, you've got a minute. I always appreciate you being in studio.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and it's always great being here, Kim. I got a funny anecdotal story, though. I went to a private Christian school some for middle school and part of high school. And it was funny because around then, Harry Potter came out. And the idea that parents had to give their kids permission to check books out wasn't even in question then. We had to get parental permission to check out Harry Potter from a Christian school because it had wizards and magic, right? But this, you know, parents... have the right and the responsibility of educating their kids. And that's something we all need to remember and we all need to realize and put at the forefront when we have these discussions.
SPEAKER 09 :
And can I say this real quick? It's called best practices. Every single school has to exercise it. If your child sees a movie that's greater than a G, they have to get permission from the parent. Okay. But they can give them porn.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And on that, our quote for the end of the show is from Thucydides. He said, the secret to happiness is freedom, and the secret to freedom is courage. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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SPEAKER 08 :
It's always great being here, Kim. Thanks. Thanks.
SPEAKER 13 :
So a lot's going to be happening with the GOP this weekend. So set this up for us. Are you going to be down in Colorado Springs? And what's happening?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so we have the state GOP organizational meeting. So this is where we'll elect the governor. chairman or chairwoman for the Colorado GOP and the secretary and the vice chair. So a lot going on. There's also a lot of multi-district meetings today, tomorrow, such as like a judicial district. So one that kind of spans several counties. They'll have their organizational meetings where they'll elect all their officers as well. So if you can't tell from my voice, I kind of came down with something. I know.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's like, are you changing your voice, Alan Thomas?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. The last thing I want to do is get all the great Republicans in Colorado sick. So they offer a Zoom option. So that might be what I'll be taking just to avoid spreading. I mean, it's not that bad. It's more I lost my voice yesterday and just a little sniffle. But It's never fun spreading that around.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And there really is something going around big time. So it's that season. But it's great to have you here.
SPEAKER 08 :
Always great being here.
SPEAKER 13 :
And your piece that we're going to be talking about is you've titled it The Wonderful Political Malfeasance of the Left. And it is super interesting what is happening in our country right now. So we'll get into that. here in just a moment. But as you all know, we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate or altruistic to take other people's rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, their childhoods, or their lives via force. And force obviously can be a weapon, but it can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation and fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. This agenda by the World Economic Forum, globalist lease agenda, United Nations, this Colorado state legislature, what they're doing is unbelievable down at the statehouse with the behest of the governor. But they use land use codes, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. That list goes on and on. And, Ellen Thomas, it's not okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's not. And, you know, we finally get a little bit of a break with the legislature to debate budget now. I think the long bill is finally getting proposed. So that's going to be interesting how they've tried to cut out of our budget. And, you know, as we well know, of course, the Democrats have been pushing this off for years and years. And we have a structural deficit now in Colorado. And from all that I've heard, they haven't addressed that structural deficit yet. through this next long bill, this budgetary bill.
SPEAKER 13 :
And they've been trying to address this different ways by taking more and more of our Tabor refunds because what they've done is they've overcollected taxes from us under Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. They're supposed to give it back to us unless we vote and say it's okay. But as I'm watching as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, they are going through I think gyrations will have to be one of our great words maybe next week of the day. But going through all kinds of gyrations, sometimes with the help of Republicans, which is very frustrating, to keep more of the excess revenue. Somebody said don't say revenue. Excess taxes that they have taken from us, Alan.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. And, you know, it's kind of interesting, too. You know, we saw the Democrats try and say that Republicans were trying to cut Medicaid here in Colorado and actually didn't. Judge said, no, absolutely not. You can't say things like that and had to take those billboards down. So we still see the political games of the fact that Republicans haven't had a majority since this has been an issue. Well before 2020, Republicans have not had a position of power at the state level. And so for Democrats to even attempt to blame this on Republicans is you hope that the voter in Colorado can know and understand that because this is something that has to be owned by the Colorado Democrats 100%.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and we have to shed light on that. Elections, you're alluding to elections. Elections are super important, and there's new developments regarding elections, regarding our Colorado 2024 election project, the executive order by President Trump. And I hope that we can get into that a little bit later at some point here in the show. Kane is going to join us as well. You're our featured guest in hour one. Kane is our featured guest in hour number two. And... Let's just go ahead and let's get into this, the things that we like to do. First thing is our word of the day. I decided to use the word malfeasance because that was in your title. And it's spelled M-A-L-F-E-A-S-A-N-C-E. And it is a noun. It could be misconduct or wrongdoing, especially by a public official. Or number two, the doing of an act which a person ought not to do, evil conduct or an illegal deed. And with all of the assault upon our Second Amendment rights down at the statehouse, I think it's downright malfeasance, Alan Thomas.
SPEAKER 08 :
It absolutely is. And, you know, the title that I kind of chose was The way the left has been politically outmaneuvered by Trump since the very beginning of his presidency, it really should be called malfeasance for what Chuck Schumer and all the leaders in the Democrat Party have done. Trump has outflanked them at every turn. And it's it's a wonderful thing for us to watch that type of malfeasance.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and to see it being addressed, we'll just put it that way. So next thing, Bill of the Day, and thank you, Ben, for Senate Bill 25-183. This is coverage for pregnancy-related services. And this is the complement, if you will—I don't think complement's the right word—to prop— Let's see, 79, I think it was, that was passed by the people of Colorado that basically says that we, as an amendment to the Constitution here in Colorado, that abortion can be done right up until the time the baby is born. And we're going to have insurance pay for it. Medicaid's going to pay for it. So you just mentioned they're saying we want to cut Medicaid. But here in Colorado, they want to take tax dollars to use that to abort babies here in Colorado. One way to make sure that you're not... undercutting Medicaid, if you will, would be to not expand these services to do this. And so anyway, and I need to give you the information. Everybody has the sniffles over here today, so it's one of those things that's going around. But this bill is Senate Bill 25-183, and I want to get the sponsors for you on this as well. Hang with me. I thought I had that right at my fingertips, and I didn't.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, you know, Kim, this is an interesting point. When you have a right for something that somebody else has to provide a service for, this is why we talk about rights the way that we do is at what point are you going to force somebody to do something they don't want to do if they have a right for it? And we always talk about health care as kind of the positive example of this, of, you know, if you have a right to an abortion, does that mean it has to be provided to you by taxpayers? Yeah. I can't remember if it was like Jim Jordan or Thomas Massey or maybe even Ted Cruz. One of them said, well, hey, if you have this right and the taxpayers have to pay for it, well, then where's my right to a gun then? Do the taxpayers get to pay for my guns and my right to the Second Amendment? So it's one of those very interesting questions that when you start to say we have a right and it needs to be in the Constitution, when you're not an astute political thinker, and you just start adding willy-nilly to the Constitution, you're going to get bills like this.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and this is Senate Bill 25-183. The prime sponsors are all Democrats on this. Senator Robert Rodriguez, Senator Lindsay Doherty, Representative Lorena Garcia, and Representative Julie McCluskey. And so that's where we are. And that's Senate Bill 25-183. And we really need to be engaging in this cultural battle for life. We have actually abdicated, I think, a lot. We didn't even realize it regarding this case for life. And what's the opposite of life? It's death. What's the opposite of creation? It's destruction. That's the bottom line of what we're seeing here. So that's Senate Bill 25-183. Ben, thank you for bringing that to our attention. And, again, you can't – and let's just mention this one more time. So there's this movement out there that there's this, quote-unquote, right to abortion. But that does not mean that you – if you choose to have an abortion, that you have a right to have taxpayers to have money taken via force from taxpayers to pay for that. And I think it's really important to understand. One other thing, you compared this to our Second Amendment rights. The Second Amendment, the Bill of Rights, was put in for a specific reason. This is not part of the Bill of Rights regarding this abortion up until the time of birth in Colorado. A lot of people don't realize that that's the case here, but it is. So, Alan, next thing, I wanted to get to our quote of the day. And it just happened that Medal of Honor Day was on Tuesday. And Drew Dix, who is a co-founder of the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, it is a very special place. You've got to get that on your bucket list to get down there. And they have portraits of valor of many of our Medal of Honor recipients and quotes by each of them. And I am sharing a Medal of Honor quote each Friday. So I'd reached out to Drew and said, hey, Medal of Honor Day was Tuesday. How about let's talk about it on Friday? He said, OK. Then I'm going through the Medal of Honor book, which I quote every Friday. And it's him. It's his quote for the day. So let's get through this, Alan, regarding Drew Dix, his citation. He was born in 1944. This is actions he took January 31 through February 1, 1968. This was a 56-hour battle, if you can believe it. So I'll let you do the first half, and I'll do the second half.
SPEAKER 08 :
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action and at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, Staff Sergeant Dix distinguished himself by exceptional heroism while serving as a unit advisor. Two heavily armed Viet Cong battalions attacked the province capital city of Chau Pha, resulting in the complete breakdown and fragmentation of defenses of the city. Staff Sergeant Dix, with a patrol of Vietnamese soldiers, was recalled to assist in the defense of Chau Pha. Learning that a nurse was trapped in a house near the center of the city, Staff Sergeant Dix organized a relief force, successfully rescued the nurse, and returned her to the safety of the Tactical Operations Center. Being informed of other trapped civilians within the city, Staff Sergeant Dix voluntarily led another force to rescue eight civilian employees located in a building, which was under heavy mortar and small arms fire. Staff Sergeant Dix then returned to the center of the city. Upon approaching a building, he was subjected to intense automatic rifle and machine gun fire from an unknown number of Viet Cong. He personally assaulted the building, killing six Viet Cong and rescuing two Filipinos.
SPEAKER 13 :
The following day, Staff Sergeant Dick, still on his own volition, assembled a 20-man force, and though under intense enemy fire, cleared the Viet Cong out of the hotel, theater, and adjacent buildings within the city. During this portion of the attack, the Army of the Republic Vietnam soldiers inspired... Hold on here. I've got to figure out where I put the other half of mine here. Here we go. So, during this portion of the attack, Army of the Republic of Vietnam soldiers, inspired by the heroism and success of Staff Sergeant Dix, rallied and commenced firing upon the Viet Cong. Staff Sergeant Dix captured 20 prisoners, including a high-ranking Viet Cong official. Now, that is a very interesting story that I've heard him tell. He then attacked enemy troops who had entered the residence of the deputy province chief and was successful in rescuing the official's wife and children. Staff Sergeant Dix's personal heroic actions resulted in 14 confirmed Viet Cong killed in action and possibly 25 more. the capture of 20 prisoners, 15 weapons, and the rescue of the 14 United States and free world civilians. The heroism of Staff Sergeant Dix was in the highest tradition and reflects great credit upon the U.S. Army. Cool. Wow. It's quite a story. And this is what I love this quote. And he has this on the bottom of his emails as well. He said, nothing is ever as bad as you think it might be. And that's Drew Dix, co-founder of the Center for American Values. Get it on your bucket list to go visit the center. Support them. And you can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. This all happens because of our sponsors. I know them all personally. And Roger Mangan has been in business for 48 years, serving his customers, providing for his family, and giving back to his communities. And so for help with your insurance needs, call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. Drew Dix is on the line with us. He is co-founder of the Center for American Values. Drew Dix, we were talking about you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, good morning, Kim. It's always good to be on your program.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it's good to have you on as well. And Drew, I've gotten to know you through all of the different things that you do down at the Center for American Values. So let's talk a little bit about the center first, because it is a very special place. And the Portraits of Valor of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients, it's a really reverent place. And people understand that when they walk into the center. It's so important.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, Kim, and it's special to me because I knew every single one of those people when we started photographing them since about 1999. So that's a special place. But it's also special that I can tell their stories to the youth and their parents about the sacrifices made for the country because, you know, If we didn't have people willing to make risks for each other, then what do we have? That's a sure symbol of a country and being united. And the thing that we like to say is that we don't preach war, we don't talk about war, but the examples of those actions that those fellow recipients did on the battlefield, it Bad times are an indication of people coming together and that some good comes out of bad things. And that's why I say there's nothing ever as bad as you think it might be.
SPEAKER 13 :
I love that. I love that quote. And Drew, I take great heart from these stories and the different people that I've met at the center, because in a way, I think we're also we're in an ideological battle. And what I've learned regarding the Medal of Honor, first of all, you don't win it. It is awarded. You are a recipient of it. So it's not a competition. Right. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's absolutely right. I don't know anybody that could try to, quote, win one and survive. You just don't do it. And in fact, the situations are so unique that it comes so fast and the situation changes so fast that you don't have time to plan that thing. And what's so remarkable is those that were with you are the ones that think you were worthy enough to receive the medal. That's what's making it so special.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right, because there has to be witnesses to the action, and you have to be recommended for the medal. And so it's the highest military honor that can be bestowed upon someone here in the military. But I think one of the key things that I've learned regarding the Medal of Honor is it is awarded because when the situation presented itself, these men took action. I think there's one woman that maybe received the Medal of Honor, but it's these men stepped forward and took action when the situation presented itself. And, Drew, I take heart from that as we're in this ideological battle. In fact, the two men that are in studio with me right now, Alan Thomas and Kane, are stepping forward in this ideological battle to protect those around them. And so I take heart from those stories of our Medal of Honor recipients and put it into my everyday life.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, that's exactly right. The Medal of Honor recipients were in a war and we fought. against a visible enemy. But those, there's a lot of warriors out there that didn't carry a gun. In fact, the founders of our nation didn't carry guns, but they were fighters and warriors. And so my hat's off to all those that are doing what they can to keep us, the ship righted in the right direction.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, Andrew, the Center for American Values is nonpartisan and nonpolitical. And the values that it focuses on is honor, integrity, and patriotism. And I was having a conversation with one of our listeners, and she has family members that lean to the left. And so there can be this rift regarding politics. And she said politics can divide so many people. And I thought about it for a little bit, Drew, and I responded back. I said, I don't think it's politics. It's values. And I think that what happens is people... We need to come together on values. I think that there are those on the left that also have these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And so what you're doing at the center is focusing on that and not on politics. And I think that we can take inspiration from that, Drew.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think that's a very good point, and that's exactly the approach we take, is that we believe that all people should strive for honor and integrity and have patriotism for the country that gives them that privilege of living their life the way they choose. And I think the most important thing is that, yes, even those souls that don't quite get it, should strive for honor, integrity, and patriotism, and at least instill in the young people that. And if we all understand that, then I think the politics will be less divisive, less combative.
SPEAKER 13 :
So, Drew Dix, I know you are a true American hero. And whenever I am at these different events with you, I was up in Pinedale, Wyoming, when you had presented to all the kids up there. And it's something to just watch. young people as they they want to understand your story it seems that they're hungry for learning these things about our country and it's just does my heart good to see all these young people that you're interacting with and i think it gives you and me great hope for our country well it does and i think our young people since they're uh
SPEAKER 03 :
captive to these devices that we're talking on right now, that when they see us, they really are hungry, as you say. They want to hear it from the real person. And I think that's what we need to strive for is a little more of that and encourage young people to ask questions and go to the source and always think that there's two sides to every what you're hearing. And we tell at the center, and this is something that I always say, is that we don't tell young people what to think. We just tell them how to think and that they can think.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I love that as well. So, Drew Dix, you are starting a podcast, though. Tell us a little bit about the Drew Dix podcast. Sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we're happy to do that. It's really exciting. We're having fun doing it. The first episode under DrewDixPodcast.com was on Greenland. And what we decided is things that are in the news that are confusing to people or keep you up all night, we're going to talk about it. And I spent 10 years, 10 spring seasons, working off of Greenland on the sea ice on a government – classified government project tracking Russian submarines, Soviet submarines. So I have a little knowledge about that, and I wanted to share it, and it turned out to be a pretty well-received program. So the listeners can look at grudixpodcast.com and see for yourself. And if you like it, let us know.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I'm sure that they will. And your co-founder, Brad Padula, is a media guy. He's a documentary producer. And so the two of you together, just tell us how you decided to start the center, because I think it's a pretty interesting story.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it is. And so Brad, I got to know Brad about 19... when he filmed Beyond the Metal, because there was four of us living from Pueblo, Colorado, which is the only city that's had four living at the same time. And so Brad got to know us pretty well, and we'd already lost Bill Crawford and Carl Sitter, and Jerry Murphy, the other recipient, was not doing real well, and he was in the... a medical facility in Pueblo, and went to see him. So obviously he wasn't going to make it very much longer, and we sat down and were having a cold beer and talking it over. It was overwhelming, so we were just settling down a little bit. And we decided, you know, his story and other stories are going to be lost if we don't do something. And Brad's father, who had this building he just purchased, was renovating it, We left from having that beer, went right to him, and of course he was walking around this project, supervising dirt work or whatever, and approached him with his idea, and he looked at us and said, well, okay, what floor do you want? And that's where it got started. And on day one, when we opened the doors on the 10th of November, Marine Corps birthday, actually, 2010, it's been the same. And it looks pretty much the same. It was a very, very special place. We had the portraits that were purchased and donated to the center by Brad's father as well. And so when people come in the doors, they're just overwhelmed by the solemnness and the dignity of the place. And it's really special to see young kids lined up from getting off their buses and grousing around like they do, and you think, oh, they're going to come to the door and mess things up. But no, when they walk to the door, they get quiet. They look around. So that's how it got started, and it's been that way ever since.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I highly would recommend that people check out your website, AmericanValueCenter.org, and also your podcast, and that is DrewDixPodcast.com, correct? Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's correct. And the next one will be released next Wednesday. And it was an interesting subject, the readiness to fight and win the next wars. And that turned into a lively discussion. So I encourage all of you to look at that as well.
SPEAKER 13 :
Drew Dix, thank you for what you do. Thank you for caring for our country, for our youth, for all that you and Brad do there at the Center for American Values. And your final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thanks for thinking of us on Medal of Honor Day. It's a special day. Most of the recipients were in Arlington National Cemetery laying the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown. And what a lot of people don't realize, there are Medals of Honor awarded to the unknowns from World War I to Korea and Vietnam, actually, and then Vietnam. So it's special. So we're paying tribute to all those that fought, that may have earned the Medal of Honor and just never were able to wear it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Drew Dix, thank you for all the great work that you're doing. And we will see you soon. The next On Values presentation will be, I think it's April 16th. And Norma Donlon, who is the widow now of Roger Donlon, who was, wasn't he the first one to receive the Medal of Honor from the Vietnam War?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, Roger was 1964. I knew him well. It was the very first one from Special Forces. Actually, the first one in Vietnam that received him.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, and he just recently passed on, so that'll be a great event. Doesn't cost anything. RSVP by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. Drew Dix, thanks for all that you do.
SPEAKER 03 :
And have a good day.
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I forgot you pulled this, Joe. This is going to crack me up at least for the next few Fridays. That is hysterical. So thank you, Joe. Welcome back to the Kim Munchen Show. Thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy. from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. In studio with me is Alan Thomas. We're going to be talking about your essay that we'll roll out this weekend, The Wonderful Political Malfeasance of the Left. And Kane, the founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado, snuck in here as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for having me again.
SPEAKER 13 :
And you're a military guy, former police officer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Former law enforcement.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Drew Dix, I could tell it was really moving you. Yeah, for sure. And so it's inspiring to hear the stories of the past, these virtuous men who devoted their lives and sacrificed a lot so that we can have these freedoms. Yeah. I'm not sure that we as Americans really understand what's happening to us now, because we may not be at war with the marxicoms, but they're at war with us. I think it's an information war right now. But for the most part, people are still dying. People are being hurt by their policies. And so we need to recognize that and do something to protect our rights and our liberties. And these examples that you provide every day inspires me to just continue to fight and to know there's suffering and sacrifice involved.
SPEAKER 13 :
There is. And even with all that's out there, we are blessed. We are so blessed. And we have this duty to pass on to the next generation what has been passed on to us. And so with that, Alan Thomas. And you've got two little kids. I've got little grandkids. And that's why we're engaging in this battle, because I think about Washington, all the stuff that they put on the line. And I had a conversation just recently, and I've shared this a few times on the air, because this was a mental process for me, is one of my friends said, And there are those on the left that have somewhat celebrated the killing of the UnitedHealthcare executive, indicating there might be some righteousness in it because UnitedHealthcare had denied some insurance claims and people suffered because of that. Or now we see people destroying Teslas, which you are talking about in your article. And so my friend said to me, well, Kim, I said, that's not the way we're supposed to settle things in America. And he said, well, George Washington in the Revolutionary War, they used weapons. And I sat back for a minute. I said, that's true. But they used them because they wanted to get to liberty, and they wanted to get to a point where we wouldn't settle our differences like that. Hence the American idea and the American Constitution. And that's what makes us so unique. And that's why your article, I think, is really important, this wonderful political malfeasance of the left, although... I never underestimate the ability for Republicans to snatch defeat from the from the jaws of victory. So let's talk a little bit about this, because this is a really important piece that you've written.
SPEAKER 08 :
And before we do, though, I kind of want to address that point is the founding fathers did not take up arms in revolution except as a very, very last resort. That's what the Declaration of Independence actually is. It's a redress to the king saying, here's what we have asked for time and time and time again. We have tried to solve this through political discourse without the need to turn towards killing each other. But you have refused to give us these things that are necessary for governance of our colonies. And so we are going to send you one last time this declaration of independence and give you the ability to to redress any of these poor behaviors to govern us the way that we should so it's a little unfair it's more than unfair to compare protests and mobs to what Washington did because the founding fathers knew that as soon as they signed that document, they were signing up to either win independence or they were signing their death certificates.
SPEAKER 09 :
And so at what point were, were our founding fathers attacking just general citizens, unarmed citizens?
SPEAKER 08 :
They, they knew that they were attacking members of, the British government. Yes. And they knew that it was an act of revolution. And so to your point, It was something that was done with great gravitas and it was not something that was just out of the blue. And that's something also, that's a good point for Republicans to, to remember as well. I know we bandied about the word revolution for a while and perhaps we need to rise up and it's like, no, this is something that needs to be taken as a very, very last resort because it is so strong and heavy. But, um, to your point about snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory, it was kind of funny this, and this article is a little bit more lighthearted than, than some because of that. And, and one of the, one of the hilarious things that happened and the way I introduced the article is, uh, we had that government shutdown that was looming earlier this month. And for all intents and purposes, Republicans were going to be the cause of it, right? Uh, we have the house, we have the Senate, we have the president, uh, Of course, we waited till the 11th hour to start pushing a continuing resolution through. Like for all the narrative was about how Republicans have waited till the last minute. And if government shuts down, it's Trump's fault. It's Republicans fault. And then Chuck Schumer did the absolute. It was shocking. Unthinkable political absurdity of snatching. defeat out of the jaws of victory, he stood up there and said, well, we're going to make sure and shut down the government. We're going to filibuster. We're going to make sure if the government shuts down, it's the Democrats' fault. Or the Republicans' fault. Well, no, but he said that the Democrats were going to shut the government down. He said, we are going to use our filibuster to make sure this continued resolution doesn't come through. So... You know, even though he's got to blame, they, of course, tried to blame Republicans. But everybody watching goes, well, you're the one not voting for it. Right. So he he took the government shutdown onto the Democrats. And it was absolutely shocking that, again, when your opponent is making a grave mistake, you don't step in and save them. And. That's what the Democrats did with this continuing resolution. They absolutely stepped all over themselves and took credit for something that was going to be the Republicans' fault anyway. And it's something that Trump has masterfully done in his first term here. He's He's brought up these very large ideas, yet his implementation of them has started out in a brilliant way to put the Democrats between a rock and a hard place. And it's – the first example I brought up was the electrical vehicles, of course. He's brought on Elon Musk as Doge and gone after the federal government with a – with a blunt instrument to absolutely try and break apart these bureaucracies. And the hilarious part, the irony is there's a Democrat senator who, in protest of Elon Musk, ditched his Tesla for a Chevy Tahoe, a gas guzzling SUV. And you just sit there and you look back and you're like, well, I thought we were doing this for the environment. And yet you're advocating getting rid of electric vehicles. I mean, for how long has the push been for electric vehicles, for electric vehicle infrastructure all across the country? How long have the Democrats been pushing that? And yet the number one electric vehicle maker and distributor by far is Tesla. It's kind of interesting. The top two electric vehicles purchased last year were both Teslas. The Cybertruck came in at number five. The only manufacturer that shows up in the top ten twice is Ford at number three and number six behind Tesla. And so it's hilarious watching the... hypocrisy of the left as they tell us that we need to worry about emissions and climate change and yet they'll go out and now are targeting private citizens and their cars which presumably and this is the hilarious part right presumably a lot of owners of teslas probably fall into a more left-leaning Because they've probably bought these electric vehicles because they think that they're doing it to save the environment, to reduce their emissions, to reduce their carbon footprint on the world. And yet now the left is targeting their own. And there's plenty of right-thinking Tesla owners, of course. But when you look at these things happening in California, you have to presume that many of these Tesla owners are on the left themselves. And it's also ironic that it is now... The left that is painting and brandishing swastikas, not the right. I know. Isn't that crazy? It's something that we're truly beginning to see that what Democrats oppose is not what they say. Yes. They say that they oppose emissions. They say that they're for electric vehicles. They say that they want to oppose capitalism and all these things. And it's like, no, actually what they oppose is Trump. Lockstep anything that they can do, they're going to oppose Trump, even if it means it's going to be detrimental to their ideology and what they have pushed policy-wise for decades. Right.
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It's a fascinating thing that we're watching right now, and we're going to go to break. We're going to come back and continue the discussion. Kane, who is the founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado, is in the studio. Alan Thomas, who's a great author here at the Kim Monson Show, becoming a regular guest host as well, which I really do appreciate that as well. And all these discussions happen because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. If you're a golfer and you would like to play the Ridge Golf Course, you've got a great opportunity. You can do that by supporting the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. in their second annual memorial golf tournament. And it is in mid-May. You can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. It should be a really fun time. And be sure and check that out. Alan Thomas, we're talking about your piece, The Wonderful Political Malfeasance of the Left. I know Kane is just chomping at the bit to comment as well. But this is really... It's crazy to watch what is happening with Teslas and Tesla's dealerships. Just a point. You'd mentioned Second Amendment in one of the previous segments. And I've seen headlines that there are Tesla dealerships that are even being shot at with firearms. I'm thinking, how did these people get firearms? Because I thought they didn't want people to have firearms. Yeah. Right.
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Absolutely. You know, the second example is actually pretty hilarious, unfortunately, as well. You know, Trump had brought up deporting, you know, illegal citizens all throughout the campaign. He made a huge push about this. And of course, the left kicking and screaming opposed him. But yet again, Trump. just absolutely outflanked them because as soon as he got in office, what was the number one thing he started doing? He didn't start just mass deportations of everybody that ICE could find that's here illegally. He found the gang members, the violent criminals, the violent illegal aliens that are here in our country. Now, Again, to a logical thinker, that makes the most sense, right? You know, regardless of your political belief about how people can get into the country, it's pretty common sense that, hey, if you get here illegally and then you want to start shooting, hitting, harassing people. beating our citizens, if you want to start going into these impoverished neighborhoods as gang members and through force and intimidation participate in the illicit drug trade, that's pretty top of my list of people that I want to say, yeah, let's boot them out. Like, you know, if you're going to put me and my family in danger, you don't deserve to be here in the country. And in aren't here illegally i have a pretty high regard hey maybe we should lock those those people up so trump goes after these violent criminals and what does the democratic leadership do they somehow want to stop these deportations they want them to turn the plane back full of these gang members and criminals and yet again just show them as absolute charlatans uh you know They say they want safety. They say they fight for the impoverished neighborhood. They say they fight for the little guy. But then when you can actually help these communities by getting rid of violent people, they're like, no, just because we oppose Trump and everything he talks about, make sure those people can't leave the country.
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Well, and the other thing on that, down here at the Statehouse, is while they, Democrats, are standing up for criminals and criminals that are here illegally, they're working to, and there's 22 different bills with the word firearms in them, to take away the right of everyday citizens to be able to protect themselves against these bad actors. So they want to bring the bad actors back, and they want to say, no, you can't protect yourself. Cain, I know you might have something to say. Oh.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, my gosh. So, Alan, charlatans, I love that word. They're liars. They're pathetic frauds. And they have been since the 50s. I was saying on the break that Malcolm X despised these people in the 60s, 50s. He despised them. This is what the Democrats have done. As you said, these these criminals that are here harming how many rapes are enough? Is one rape okay from these people? I think that's too much. That's one too many. But what they did and what they do is they send out, and it started with the House Negroes. Excuse my French, but they send out their House Negroes to push people to violence. And I'm going to say some names. Raphael Warnack, Anna Presley, Eon. Ihan Omar, Cory Booker, Hakeem Jeffries, Al Wolfman Green, Benny Johnson, James Clyburn, and, of course, Maxine Waters.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
James Brown Wigs Waters. What do they do? They send them out. Do you know that 200 Negroes, 200 black people die every single week? at the hands of other black people. These morons never said one word. It's been going on for decades, and these House Negroes have never stood up and says, we need to stop the violence. A lot of these people that are killed are children. I know. Innocent bystanders, innocent men and women. They are dead. And not one black cockeyed has ever stood up and says, we need to do this. However, these criminals that are raping us, killing us, causing property damage, they step up and go, we need to hit the streets and make sure that these people can continue to rape your women. Listen, they're marxicoms. They hate you, Alan, because you're white. They hate Kim because she's a woman. They use people like me, a proud American Negro, as a weapon to destroy this country.
SPEAKER 13 :
And you're not going to let that happen anymore. So let's toss this over to Alan.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and it's this identity politics, right? It's something that's deeply ingrained in their ideology to split us into groups as opposed to. And this is really part of the malfeasance that they've been drawn into is. We're seeing now that they cannot stand on principle. We see that while they say that they want to be here to defend the environment, actually, as soon as they can protest Trump or Elon Musk by association, they're going to get rid of their electric vehicles. They're going to buy these gas guzzling cars as soon as they have the opportunity to say that they want to stand up for impoverished neighborhoods and actually stand up. for their own constituents in their own communities and say, hey, yeah, you know what? Violent gangs, bad idea. Let's get the bad actors out of the community. Instead, what they're going to say is, hey, you need to turn a flight around and bring them back. And then, you know, it's also funny because we're showing that the things that they care about most are money and power. And Elon Musk exposed this brilliantly today. through his investigations into USAID. And this was, again, another just brilliant way of Trump outflanking them and knowing that they would respond to the first battle, not necessarily to the best one, right? They could have easily said, you know what, violent gang members, we want to save that deportation battle for another day, for maybe a sob story.
SPEAKER 15 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
When we get the mother or the child that Trump is sending back, I mean, not one U.S. citizen is sobbing over a violent gang member, a gangbanger going back to Venezuela. Not one of us is. And it's funny because when you're in a tough economy, the number one place that Americans say we need to cut first is foreign aid. It makes sense. Again, you know, it's like when our economy is tough, what's the number one thing we want our taxpayer dollars going towards? Not other governments, not towards transgender operas in Colombia, not towards DEI in Serbia. And Elon Musk came in and said, here's what's happening in USAID. And The Democratic leadership just has absolutely gone to war to defend all of this money being spent fraudulently and wastefully in the USAID. And so it's nice that we can we can sit back, allow the left to just get outflanked by Trump and show and illustrate how terrible this Democratic leadership truly is.
SPEAKER 09 :
And they're supporting an agenda that will take my money and tell me to my face, I'm going to use it to destroy you.
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And that's one of the things that's, gentlemen, we are out of time in hour number one. We're going to come back in hour number two. Our quote for the end of the show is from Thucydides. And he said this, the secret to happiness is freedom and the secret to freedom is courage. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. My friends, you're not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
SPEAKER 13 :
Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasure, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history and we were placed in Colorado, which is at the tip of the spear. because this is where the battle is and lots of exciting things that are going on and we're going to talk about some of that let's get right into it though first of all hooters restaurants had lunch over there with kurt gerwich yesterday great fish and chips they have great specials monday through friday for lunch and for happy hour a great place to get together to watch the the games and i know alan thomas that you are a basketball fan how is your bracket
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I have Duke going all the way, so it's still looking pretty good. But that was a good game last night. And then, of course, I was up way too late before you have to get up for a 6 o'clock radio show watching Texas Tech come back 16 down to win it in overtime. Really? So that was a good late game for us last night. But another fun, you know, it's so fun watching these. I mean, you truly have to remember that they're, 18, 19, 20 years old competing at a stage like this and the joy of victory, the heartache of defeat, and just the stories that you hear about these young kids and what they've gone through to get to where they are. It's a fun tournament. It's the best sporting event, in my opinion. Duke is a pretty easy pick, though, right? Yeah. I mean, they've been my favorite since I was little. You know, Coach K and J.J. Redick and all of those good ones. So I've always been a Duke basketball fan. And Cooper Flagg actually should still be in high school. He reclassified in order to play up this year. And he's the best player in the country. And they are a pretty easy pick for winning the whole thing. And they look good last night.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK. Well, and I realize you should not pick your bracket on emotion because I had KU and Houston in the finals. And I know that KU had a terrible record, but I thought maybe they'll rally. And so don't do it, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't really follow a lot of sports, but I do want to say something about Hooters. Renee and I went to Hooters back maybe two or three weeks ago.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, up in northern Colorado.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, in Loveland, I believe. They have a fish taco that is out of this world, and it's massive. And so I got the fish taco. You get three with the order, and then I also got the fish and chips. I've been looking for a good fish and chip place since we got here seven years ago. It is 100% delicious. The service is amazing. Charlie, who was a young lady who helped us, their service is absolutely. I mean, I'm a former restaurateur. I've owned a couple of restaurants. Their service is outstanding. Initially, Hooters, you might feel like, well, that's not a family restaurant. It is. Take your wife, take your kids, and go have some great food.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the story, I think both of you know it, how I got to know them was when I was on city council. And what had happened was is one of the things that we were supposed to do was to approve liquor licenses. And I think that's a whole other question. And I can't even tell you, having these restaurateurs that come in and ask for their liquor license and to see them being dressed down by city council people and the mayor, saying that we're going to come in and we're going to do sting operations and see if you serve somebody under the age of 18. And I'm thinking, wait a minute. I never really liked all that. But anyway, so Hooters Restaurants is going to – they were taking over a property that had been at TGI Fridays that had gone out of business, so there had been a liquor license there. It was a no-brainer. It was zoned for a restaurant. No-brainer. And it was primarily women on the left. Now, I have a friend who's become a friend and a very faithful Catholic, and she was concerned about the uniforms. But take a look at any of the professional cheerleaders or your high school volleyball team.
SPEAKER 09 :
In fact, Renee and I were talking about that when we were eating. I go, there's no difference in that uniform than what girls wear on the volleyball court. Yeah. Zero difference. I know. And again, their service is just immaculate.
SPEAKER 13 :
But I think, Kane, as I looked back at this, I really felt that this, now as I look back, it was early on assaulting women... Being women. Yes, ma'am. I think that was it. So anyway.
SPEAKER 09 :
All of this has been going on for decades and decades. I think I may have told you in a previous episode that I looked through a yearbook from junior high school. And in the yearbook, it had a black African-American club or something like that. There was no other clubs. And there was only black people in here. This was when I was in eighth grade. This has been happening to us forever, and it's high time we stopped taking it. And just our strongest weapon, Alan, is our voices. You speak loud and often. Tell the truth.
SPEAKER 13 :
So going back to the story, and I've told it a few times on the air, but I'm sitting there, and again, it was standing room only. The mayor apparently had already kind of— said this makes sense so they'd started construction you know in private enterprise time is money and but all of a sudden the mayor who had an r behind his name but did all kinds of radical left stuff because you had to be an r at that time in douglas county to get elected um And it's standing room only, and it's primarily women on the left that say, we don't want this here. And I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking, if you don't want it here, you just don't go there. You don't go there, right? And they can compete in the market if people... don't go there, they'll go out of business. If people do go there, they'll stay in business. And if you don't want to go there, you don't have to. But they wanted to use government to say, you can't come in here.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, and that's been the agenda of the left, is I don't like it, and so that means you're not going to like it. And so we're going to control everything, which is taking away from our freedoms and our liberties. At every level, on every platform, everything they do, they attack us and our liberties.
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So I make the motion to approve the liquor license. I look to the mayor and my other colleagues to second the motion. Again, standing room only. All these people have come in and accused them of all kinds of stuff. They have accused them of the stuff that these gang leaders or gang members have been doing that we're deporting. But anyway. Yes. And there was no second. And I said, I would like to address what's going on here. And the mayor would not let me speak and said, OK, at council comments. So I waited till council comments and I started. I said, this is about freedom. And he shut me down and would not let me speak. So at that point in time, the meeting adjourns, and the city councilwoman to the next to me said, Kim, I want to talk with you about this. I said, we'll talk, but not right now. I was so mad about it. I said, this is about freedom. And she says to me, oh, you think you're the queen of freedom. So at that point, the police chief comes up and says, would you like me to walk you to your car? And I said, absolutely not. I can walk to my car just by myself. I was so frustrated. We went home. We issued a press release. And social media blew up because this was a foundational question. And people on the right and people on the left and libertarians, everybody said, what is the proper role of government? Is this the proper rule of government that we can decide that legitimate businesses cannot be in business? And fast forward this, Cain. This was before COVID. This was 2015. A neighbor of mine called, and she said, Kim, as a Christian, how can you be standing up for Hooters? And I said... Let's have coffee. And I explained to her, I said, when government starts to say which businesses are OK and which aren't, we're going down a very dangerous road. What if what if government says they don't like the doctrine of this church over here and they won't let you have that church? Right. And then you fast forward it to COVID and you've got government saying that there are some people that are essential and there are some not. And that's why it was such an important stand.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, it's freedom.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's freedom. So, Alan, I'll go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I was just going to say one of the one of the more beautiful lines in the very first Federalist paper actually addresses this. And it's a it's a lesson that can be applied to politics, to religion when they say persecute or heresy is rarely persecuted. Not even rarely. Heresy is not cured through persecution. And you have to sit back and you have to say, OK, if I oppose Hooters, is the best way to oppose them through persecution? Or is it through getting to know people, influencing them and changing their hearts and their minds? And that's the point. that the first Federalist paper makes is, hey, you don't want to use the fire and the sword to change people's mind because you're not actually changing their mind. You're intimidating them. You're using the threat of power and force to force their actions. You're not actually changing how they feel, how they think about things. In fact, a lot of times you reinforce their belief. Because they sit back and they say, if you have to use threat and intimidation and power to change my mind, I must be thinking the right thing.
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Well, and you can see that through Tesla and all that. So just to button up the story, and then we'll do our word of the day and all that when we come back. But the city attorney pulled us in a few days later and said, you guys don't have a leg to stand on. Right. And that from the Supreme Court, there is a decision that you can't do this. And so two weeks later, another city council meeting, standing room only, and we know that we must approve this liquor license. And so, again, the whole presentation, everything happens, and the mayor calls for a motion to approve, and they all look to me. to make the motion, but I know that they have to. So I just went, do, do, do, do, do, do. And so somebody else had to make the motion. They looked for a second. They all looked to me. I went, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And so they seconded it. So it was approved unanimously. So then fast forward. A few months later, and the head of the Colorado Restaurant Association called and she said, Kim, Brian and Tom would like you to be the guest of honor and cut the ribbon. For the new Hooters restaurant. Wow. And I said, well, okay. And so I have this picture of me with the beautiful Hooters girls cutting the ribbon with the owners. And I actually presented the story when I received the Leadership Program of the Rockies 2016 Leader in Action Award. And I said, I'd like at the end of this to put that up on the screen. I said, this is what freedom looks like. Yes. And Tommy Lahren actually talked about it on our national show. So anyway, I get off the city council. I wait. We now are friends regarding.
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And if people have, if you have an issue or concern with the uniforms, pretend that they're cheerleaders. How about that? Because I've seen some cheerleading uniforms that make hooters look like choir girls.
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Okay.
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And so, but here's the thing. The left, conservatives fight for freedom and liberty for everyone. Yes. Mostly for the left because they're not capable or even understand really what's happening to them and our country. So when we fight, even though we have disagreements with them, we have our team. We are all on, you know, 51% of the country is all independent. For freedoms and liberty and the Constitution. And if we don't defend it for them. Right. If we don't defend it for them, we won't have a country. We won't have a Constitution. We won't have it.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. Alan Thomas, our word of the day goes to your essay, malfeasance. It could be the misconduct. Oh, I have to spell it for Eric. M-A-L-F-E-A-S-A-N-C-E. It could be misconduct or wrongdoing, especially by a public official. Should we just put some names next to that as a definition?
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We've seen a lot of malfeasance from some political leaders on the left, shall we say. Yes, we have. And from... Doge has exposed a lot of malfeasance as well. You see a lot of these bureaucrats using their positions of power to use the taxpayer's dime as a credit card. And it's absolute malfeasance.
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Okay, so the next thing I want to ask you is the doing of an act which a person ought not to do, evil conduct, an illegal deed. I think it's downright malfeasance, NPR. Did you see the head of NPR in the hearings? Was it yesterday? Boy, that was – and somebody sent this. Now, I've not sourced this, but they said that she's either on the board or CEO of Signal, right? which just happened to have that signal chat. I need to source that to make sure. So don't quote me on that out there yet. I try not to do that. But anyway, I found that was super interesting. And speaking of taxpayer time, you know what? I buy my airtime. I pay for it. I tell you what, a few million dollars would go a long way for the Kim Monson show if you took it from everybody and then gave it to me so that I could be on the air. That's what's happening with NPR, Alan Thomas.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I thought the one question of, hey, your whole editorial board is 87 Democrats and no Republicans. And You know, of course, this is what they do is when they're in power, there's no hearings about there's no question. And when they're not, it's it's deflect, deflect, deflect. Right. Oh, well, we don't ask what political affiliation they are. And it's like, OK, well, if you're a news network and you have this absolute echo chamber of an editorial board. Maybe something's wrong. It doesn't take looking at the personal registration of all 87 to realize, hey, nobody is advocating a single Republican idea. You know, nobody wants to pitch a Republican story for NPR at all. It's like, OK. You may not have asked their political affiliation, but you knew exactly what you were doing. They're frauds. You knew that you were. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, no. Yeah, you knew that.
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I'm trying to be disciplined, Alan. They are frauds and they're criminals. Why are they taking our money? And again, it goes back to what the strategy is from the Marxicoms. I'm going to take your money. We're going to use it. to destroy you at every single level. And it's high time that we wake up as conservatives, no, as Americans, and understand. If they're doing this to Democrats, guess what they're doing to the left?
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So with Doge, I think everyday people are going, wait a minute. And of course, when you start to get comedians involved... in politics, you know that's when you're winning. So apparently there was a meme out there that said, why are we giving other countries money to hate us? They should be able to hate us for free. NPR, why should we be giving them money? And This is another thing that NPR used to have this reputation of academics, that I listen to NPR, so I am very smart. But quite frankly, it was what we've seen in indoctrination, and they're using taxpayer money to do it. Cut the money off. Speaking of the Colorado budget, I don't know if we said it on the air or in between, but... One of the things that Trump needs to do, Doge and all, is cut the money off. So we're going to see doubling down at the school board, the local, the county, the state, and the national level. And how do we stop it? We cut the grant money off. And I know we're going to talk about that, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Hang on to your hat because these folks at these school boards, these school districts are not going to get the money. And the very next thing they're going to do, because they think we're dumb, they're going to raise our taxes. Those mill levy tax deals that they run.
SPEAKER 13 :
Mill levy overrides.
SPEAKER 09 :
Overrides. They're 100%, which is why they're not worried. We went to Thompson School Board the other day over some silliness with my good friend Nancy Rumfeldt. They are not worried because they know they think we're dumb. They think the citizens will just continue to pay so they can push their CRT, the DEI, the transgender stuff, the grooming that they're doing of kids. So let's talk. Let me say this. Say no. Am I yelling? Say no.
SPEAKER 13 :
Renee, he's yelling. Say no. So with that, we had Nancy Rumfelt on the show earlier this week, a Thompson School Board member who wore a T-shirt that said Real Women Rock. Her other school board members in Thompson School District wanted to have a conversation about her regarding her ethics in wearing such a shirt. We had her on the morning of this school board meeting. You were there?
SPEAKER 09 :
I actually came home from work, shot over there. I signed up to speak. I was the over 100 people that were in front of me. So I stayed for a little bit, and I went home and watched it on television.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it's insane. What they're saying about her is 100 percent lies. She is concerned about every single child in that school district, regardless of their race, creed, color, gender preference. She's concerned about them. She's just simply saying, I have a First Amendment right to say real women rock, just as the transgenders have a First Amendment right to be a man and walk around wearing a dress and lipstick.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, they can do that, but they can't come in. My understanding is in Thompson School District that there are boys with all the parts that can be in the girls' locker rooms. Is that true?
SPEAKER 09 :
That is 100% true, and they can play on the same team. And so the issue was a First Amendment right for Nancy, but also these girls are getting hurt. Now, what was surprising is the numbers of teachers in the school districts. that support males playing on girls' teams. That some of them had arguments like, well, that's not true. These women are just as strong as men. And so my challenge to the one lady who worked in the school district, I want to get in the ring with you and show you how this works. Just to be a police officer, we had very slight women.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm thinking maybe a guy might not want to get in the ring with you, Cain.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'll put on a dress.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, it's Trump's address to Congress. It was funny. I was hosting the show right after that. And one of the takeaways, one of the more fascinating takeaways was all of the transgender issues, the voting public is backing Trump on. I mean, a majority of Maine voters are backing Trump's proposal about Title IX and actually opposing their own Democrat governor who's opposing Trump over this transgender issue. And And the thing that was most interesting about that, they had those placards. Right. Did you see those where they hold up false? And it was so funny because for most everything that he said, they held up their little false placards. But when he said when he addressed it directly and said men are men, women are women, you can't change. It was fascinating because it panned out and not everyone held up their little false placards. It was very fascinating that most of the Democrats didn't hold up that false placard because they know it's now a losing issue for the voters.
SPEAKER 13 :
So they didn't want to be photographed.
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They didn't want to be seen with their voters saying, hey, we believe in this transgender issue. And so while we may have a lot of very vocal voices at school board meetings advocating for this lunacy... It's very interesting because most voters agree this issue is ridiculous. It's been fabricated by the left. Everybody knows the truth. I mean, there's there's truth. It's written on all of our hearts. And we know that men are men, women are women, and that it is something mental if you think that you have to be the other. And so it's a losing issue for the left. But it is important to know that it's a losing issue and that while you have a lot of loud voices yelling at school board meetings, That's not the majority of people. The majority of people. know what the truth is. It's just we need that strength and courage to stand up and call it out and say, hey, you're not representing a majority of people.
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So we have to understand where this started. It was the left that hijacked the gay and lesbian community, just like they hijacked the Negro community. They needed the new victim. All victims get holidays. We got... Black History Month? Black History Month, February.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wait, why is it Black History Month and not African American?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, because we're not African American. We're Negroes. We shouldn't have a month. Yeah, okay. We shouldn't have a month. We shouldn't have a day. Who else has a month? The gays and lesbians, or the LGBTQ group. And so what happened is they needed to have the victims. What did they do with the Negro population? We became the most violent people on the planet. Violent from the 60s on. They removed the dads. We become violent. We kill each other. We kill everybody. What is the LGBT group doing today? They are some of the most violent people on the planet. The last three mass shootings have been LGBTQ person. going in and shooting up kids. A lot of them are on these protests. A lot of them are doing the damage to the Teslas. The lady that attacked one of our marchers, I'm sure she... Well, let's talk about that when we come back.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. A couple of things I wanted to mention. First of all, Drew Dix, our Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values, I'd recommend that you have that at home in your Freedom Library. And you can get that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. And, of course, the center is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. But Drew Dix said this. Again, 56-hour battle. Vietnam War, and he says this, nothing is ever as bad as you think it might be. We've got big challenges here in America, and in studio is Alan Thomas, an author here at the Kim Monson Show, guest host, and his essay will roll out as the wonderful Political Malfeasance of the Left, and Kane, who is the founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado. I was having a conversation just recently, and I said that There is nature's law, and in the Declaration, Alan, the founders refer to God four different times, but in different ways. The divine provider, nature's God. And nature's God, and we talk about nature's law on a regular basis. Nature's law, male, female. And this friend of mine said, but Kim, there are... people that men that are born with vaginas i don't know if i can say that on the air but i just did and um and vice versa i said that's an outlier i i said throughout the animal and plant world it's male and female um alan would what would you say to that to
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Well, and it's interesting because when they say nature's God, it's actually hearkening back to Socrates. It's a throwback to the ancient Greeks and how they were able to use logic and thought to arrive at some of these ideas. And that's the beauty of our world. of our founding document is you don't even have to be a Christian to understand the logic of how you arrive at a nature's God. And part of the difficulty that we have is male, female, man, woman. These are such Yeah. And to have the very root of our language even attacked this way, it's difficult because it's like, okay, yes. Well, if I say a deer, if I say there was a deer in the road, you don't have to ask whether it had two heads or not, you know, but there are deer, you know, especially around Chernobyl that, that. grew two heads it's like okay there there may be outliers they may be maybe faint exemptions to the rule but for the most part this rule holds true 99.99 of the time and there is a male there is a female and it's funny you know at the break Producer Joe talked about the scientific method. It's like this is something that's written in our very DNA. I mean, this is something that's so unavoidable that when you do a DNA test of an individual, you can tell whether they're male or female. With both of my kids, we wanted to do the testing to know whether we were going to have boys or girls. It's something that you can test for. Even before you've been born and breathed your first breath of air, we know whether you're male or female. it's such an interesting discussion because it's like, we don't have to defend our position. You know, truth does not have to be coerced. And that's the difficulty of what we're facing is it's like, we're being coerced into thinking that male and female is something that's even debatable. It's not.
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Well, it is become a big debate. And Cain, what would you say to people that say regarding a site outliers, even under the second amendment, people cite out outliers. And so what do you say to that? It's,
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It's insane to me that we're having this conversation trying to determine male and female. The issue is you cannot make me call you, sir, a woman. I'm sorry. I'm never going to do it. And so they're trying to—the reason why all this stuff is taking place in our schools is they're changing the culture. I did a speech down in Parker last year, and I asked the group. I said, hey, at some point, it's going to be accepted, right? that there are women that have penises, okay? And then there are women that don't, that have the female part. They're changing the culture. So I say to one guy in the audience, what kind of wife, what kind of woman do you have? Does she have the penis or a vagina? Can I say that word? They are changing the culture. They're making it acceptable that we're going to accept this whole third or not even a third. They're going to we're going to accept the fact that a woman is no longer a woman.
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Okay. Using these words on the radio, just drilling right down to it, I'm thinking at least where I grew up, we wouldn't say those words in mixed company, if you will. But our children are being taught this, and that's why we have to understand it. Because our kids are being taught this every day. And the other thing is the focus on those words, it makes individuals focus on the carnal stuff instead of the big idea stuff as well. Yeah.
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The big idea stuff is their controlliness. They're harmed. This is damaging children every single day. This is grooming children. There's no way that a second grader should know about transgender anything. That shouldn't even be in the lexicon at all. Maybe not even until high school. But they are. These kids are changing our culture. I said it during the break. If you look at the black culture, they changed the black culture. Prior to the 60s, we were not violent anymore. The crime rates were basically the same as everyone else. They changed the culture.
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But what LBJ did, he said to, at the time, black women, but then it went to all women, hey, government will take care of you and your children as long as you do not have a man in the house. And I've got an anecdotal for you on that, and that is... A woman that I know had been a social worker back in, let's say, the 70s and was doing a house check. First of all, do you really want the government coming in and doing a house check? But if you're taking government money... Yeah, you have. Absolutely. So anyway, the social worker who leaned to the left, pretty self-righteous about it, gets into the house and she's doing her look around the house and she sees a man's feet underneath the bed. Well, it's the dad. And she told him to get out of there.
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Mm hmm.
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That's what happened.
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It was done on purpose. It was done on purpose. If you remove the lion, the jackals will play. And so they've removed the lion from the black culture, and look at what has happened to us. They've removed the lion from the families because men should be, the majority of people at that meeting on Thursday were women. There were a few men that spoke, but most of them were women.
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Well, because the other ones went home and watched it on TV. Some of them.
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You got me. Some of them. No, the men should be stepping up and going, Miss Jones, you ever talk to my son about transgender anything, I'm going to have a problem with you. Not the school board. Not the school district. I'm going to have a personal problem with you, sir, or you, ma'am, for grooming my kid. I told a story to another school district. My cousin, her name is Kim. Kim was being groomed when she was like nine years old. I would think I was 11, 12. And she used to talk about, hey. That long ago? So-and-so, so-and-so is showing me these books. And I'm like, what? And it was like Playboy and Hustler. And she was telling adults, this is happening to me. She got groomed, and then she was molested. Multiple times. By that person? By that person. Oh. So my cousin Kim became... When you expose children to that kind of material, they become hypersexual at a very young age. This is not coming from just a regular guy. I've heard professionals talk about these things. They become hypersexual at a very young age. Kim became a prostitute.
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Aww.
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Yes, Kim died 10 years ago. She's 55 years old. She was a prostitute the entire time. So when you look, I think one of the reasons why I'm so passionate about these books and what they're doing with the grooming thing These kids can't handle it. They're going to be making really, really bad choices, and they're going to be okay with it because the schools are grooming them.
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My father, who passed on a little over a year ago, had always said to me, he said, be careful about what you watch, be careful about what you read, be careful about what you listen to, because particularly when what you see, when those images are... put into your mind. It's imprinting. It's imprinting. So we have, that's why the work you're doing at Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado is so important. We're going to go to break. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors. If you've been injured, reach out to John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity. By looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And for a great golfing event in mid-May, check out the USMC Memorial Foundation for their second annual golf tournament out at the Ridge Golf Course. There's a limited number of golfers there, so make your reservation early. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Kane, it's great to have you in studio. You care deeply about golf. about our children. Right now, there's a big battle going on in Elizabeth, Albert County, that the ACLU is demanding. that these pornographic books be put back into the schools. And, again, they know what they're doing. They know what they're doing is if they can get these kids to look at this stuff, they know that they are imprinting that for a lifetime. Alan Thomas, you're a dad, and you're active in this. What's your thoughts on this?
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Well, especially when it comes to books, there's a big difference between curating a book collection for kids, highly influenceable kids, and something being available on the open marketplace. And, you know, it's funny, you see all these school board meetings, these parents coming out and reading a book. And I guess my thoughts on this is if there's a book that's even questionable, if the board member is unable to read the book from the, From the stand, then it should not be in the school. I mean, there's we've known this for centuries. Again, this kind of comes back to the foundational issue that we're trying to fight in this ideological battle. Is this is there absolute truth and can it be known? Or are we going to accept the progressive premise of truth is relative? And that's the difficulty in having these types of conversations is you're coming at it and you're having these arguments with people that think truth is relative. There's my truth. There's your truth. There's. their truth. There's Z Zem Zer truth, right? And, and it's a difficult battle to fight because you're both coming at this from a completely different premise. And the premise is I'm saying that truth is absolute. It is knowable that you cannot change the fabric of reality by saying words and that, and they're coming at it from a completely opposite premise. And that's why it, When we go to how do you have these sorts of discussions, it's like you almost have to say, you know what, we can't even have a discussion about what is male or female until we have a discussion on truth, on is truth knowable and can we discover it? Because until you have that premise discussion, you're both going to be just fighting in absolute circles.
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Well, and I'm checking the text line here. First of all, Susan says, I love the yelling. People should be yelling. Okay. But we're in Lent right now. And I heard a sermon one time regarding Pilate, and he's having this interaction with Christ. And there's the words, he says, what is truth, right? Right. And the pastor said, you could have that question with different inflection. So was Pilate being maybe more of a relativism and says, what is truth? Or was he asking the question, what is truth? And I thought that is so interesting to have that different inflection on that, Alan.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is. And you can get different points from different points of view because then Jesus throughout his ministry said, I am the truth. Right. And it's so fascinating as I've been kind of looking into Socrates. This was something that even Socrates was able to, as a non-participant in Judaism or Christianity, was able to logically arrive at the fact that there is a nature's God, that there is a God over nature, that there is this prime mover, that this is unassailable. And yet, if you were to have that discussion with anybody and say that you can logically arrive to the fact that there had to be an initial mover to the universe, that something had to put the universe into motion, because all of our... All of our thermodynamic laws all say everything goes to entropy, that nothing goes towards order. Everything goes more towards chaos and breaking things down than building them up. And you can logically sit here and say there had to be an original prime mover. You know, even if you don't believe in my Bible, we can come to that, that eventual end point. And we can say, hey, if we could come to that end point, then we need to have an end point with truth, too.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. And our God is a God of order. So, okay, Cain, and then we've got Gabby on the line, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
Just to backtrack really, really quick. Elizabeth is going to lose. They're going to have to put those books back into the schools. There was case law from 1985, Tattered Cover versus Tooley. where the Supreme Court here said they have a First Amendment right to have those books in the school. It didn't say you had to give them to the kids. It said it had to be in the schools. Elizabeth has a protection where a parent has to approve any pornographic book or any adult content book for their child. So that's something they can sign up for in the very beginning. And if a child checks out a book that's questionable, they have to notify the parent before they issue that book to that child. So the books have the right to be in these schools. Insane, but they have the right. It's a First Amendment right. The other thing is that it's a violation of federal law. So I say, I know what the truth is. I say, you belong in prison if you're giving kids pornography. Federal law, section title 18, United States Code, section 1466A. Look it up. You can do 20 years in prison for giving a child an illustration of a man naked with a child naked. There are – it's one of the pictures in a book called Gender Queer. They're all throughout Colorado. I know.
SPEAKER 13 :
You've sent that over, and I can't get that image out of my mind.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's insane. And so these are criminal – this criminal behavior by our school district, which is why I say take your children out of the government schools. They are not safe. If you cannot, you have to stand up and protect your kids. You have to scream. You have to yell. You have to say, excuse me, sir, if you give my daughter that book, I'm going to have a personal problem with you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, let's get over here. Gammy, let's make it a minute, okay?
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Well, I'm just calling in to say a few things. I wrote on the 003 gun bill again this morning. That was my fifth submission. And I hope that you all will read it because I pretty much told them to go home and get on their knees for the crimes they've committed. But there's a whole lot in there. But that's not why I called. I called because Kane's on there. And, Kane, I'm going to defer with you on one little point. I don't care whether you got a kid in that school or not, whether you pulled yours out or not. Your children will have to deal with the majority of children in that school, which is why every single parent needs to look at the real laws and violations of rights. You can put all the smut in the public library, but in the school library, there should be a firewall of protection. And in a workplace, People would be sued, fired, and personally sued for one millionth of what they are doing to our children. But you need to know this is coming from way up high. Excellent point. Because billions of dollars are involved, and they will not stop until you remove the funding for CELL, CRT, DEI, and show parents that we're not intolerant. We don't blame the trans children. We blame the sick criminals.
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Okay. Thank you, Tammy. She's absolutely... So we've got about a minute. We've got two minutes left. Kane, I'm going to go to you first.
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I just want to acknowledge our team. First of all, we're at TaskForceFreedomNoCo.com. You can go on and take a look at all the pornographic books, all the stuff that we've been doing the last four years. I know it's insane, but also we have amazing team members. Thank you, Mama and Papa. They know who I'm talking about. And I want to promote Devastated, which is a A documentary that was put together by my good friend Stephan Tubbs about the fentanyl crisis here in Colorado. It's not political. It's just telling stories about what has happened here in Colorado. I will make it political. After you watch it, you have to ask yourself, why did our government allow this to happen? Why did they allow people to come in and harm us?
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One more time, that website?
SPEAKER 09 :
TaskForceFreedomNoCo.com.
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Alan Thomas, you've got a minute. I always appreciate you being in studio.
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Well, and it's always great being here, Kim. I got a funny anecdotal story, though. I went to a private Christian school some for middle school and part of high school. And it was funny because around then, Harry Potter came out. And the idea that parents had to give their kids permission to check books out wasn't even in question then. We had to get parental permission to check out Harry Potter from a Christian school because it had wizards and magic, right? But this, you know, parents... have the right and the responsibility of educating their kids. And that's something we all need to remember and we all need to realize and put at the forefront when we have these discussions.
SPEAKER 09 :
And can I say this real quick? It's called best practices. Every single school has to exercise it. If your child sees a movie that's greater than a G, they have to get permission from the parent. Okay. But they can give them porn.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, my friends, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. I am very pleased to have on the line with me two women, one of them I know very well, and that is Lori Gimmelstein. She is the co-founder of the Colorado Parents Advocacy Network, doing amazing work for children and families and parents. And Lori Gimmelstein, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. Thanks so much for the opportunity to join you this morning. Well, most definitely. And then also a mom, Cindy Stein. We're going to hear her story. And Cindy, welcome to the show. Thank you very much. I appreciate you having me. Yes, and a very important story. But Lori, before we get into this, we need to let people know about Colorado Parents Advocacy Network and also this summit that is just right around the corner.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. Yes. So for your listeners, on April 6th, we have a very important summit, as you said, coming to Colorado at the Inverness Hilton in Englewood, Colorado. It's the Rocky Mountain Summit on Safeguarding Children from Gender Affirming Treatment. And we are absolutely thrilled. This is the first event in Colorado that has been approved to give physicians continuing medical education, professional development opportunities. And so physicians that are tuning in this morning, please go online this morning, coloradoparents.org and get your tickets to get CME so that you can hear from the experts. We are bringing in the top Of the top people, we have Dr. Miriam Grossman. She is a renowned child psychiatrist, best-selling author of a book called Lost and Transnation. And we have President Trump's deputy counsel, Candace Jackson, joining us. She is deputy counsel with the U.S. Department of Education, civil rights attorney, brilliant. We have Dr. Lior Sapir with the Manhattan Institute. He's a data analyst. And we also have for the first time, Dr. Michelle Stanford. She's a Colorado pediatrician. She'll be speaking in Colorado. She's going to be talking about the harms of gender affirming treatment on minor children. And then that panel is going to be moderated by my very good friend, Dr. Travis Morrell with Colorado Principled Physicians. And then I'll be moderating a panel that is bringing in families. So we have Erin and Chloe Lee. I know your listeners are familiar with Erin's story. And this is the first time her daughter, Chloe, who's now 16, will be speaking out about what happened to her publicly. And then we're also flying in Florida parent January Littlejohn, who many of you remember from President Trump's State of the Union address. She is the mom who he honored. She stood up. She's has beautiful blonde hair, the long hair when she stood up in the beautiful blue dress. She's coming to talk about what happened to her family and how her daughter's school transitioned her behind her family's back. And then we also have pediatric gender clinic whistleblower Jamie Reed on the panel. It's going to be an event nobody wants to miss, April 6th, Inverness Hilton. Get your tickets today, coloradoparents.org.
SPEAKER 06 :
So great work on that, Lori Gimmelstein. And Lori, you reached out to me and you said that there is a story. It was published first at the Daily Wire, but you wanted us to be the first locally to talk about this story. So thank you. And it's the story of Cindy Stein. And Cindy, welcome to the show. So Lori, set this up a little bit. And then Cindy, we want to get over here and hear about this journey that you're on. Sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely. So we have at the Colorado Parent Advocacy Network an incident reporting tool. It's the heart of our advocacy. We help families, help parents, students, teachers when issues arise so that we can help them get the support they need to be successful. And Cindy reached out to us in November. I'm going to let her speak to the story, but just kind of in summary, her daughter was really befriended by a math teacher named Joanne Smotherman at Durango High School when she was a junior. And her daughter has some comorbidities that make her very vulnerable. She's diagnosed with autism, anxiety, depression, and ADHD. And Cindy had been diagnosed last year with cancer and was going through some very aggressive medical treatments. And during that time, Joanne Smotherman befriended her daughter. And at first, I think that there was some gratitude that she had somebody at school to help her. But it has really turned into a nightmare for Cindy and her family. Joanne Smotherman has basically coerced and convinced Cindy's daughter that she is actually a boy. And now her daughter ran away and moved in with Joanne and her transgender husband, Kevin Smotherman, who goes as Vivian Smotherman. And the police, CPS, school district, everyone has failed Cindy. And Cindy's daughter is, the police were unwilling to take Cindy's daughter out of the Smotherman's home at the age of 17. And the body cam footage of the police on scene is available on our X account at CPN Colorado as our handle. People can go on X and just search Colorado Parent Advocacy Network to follow us and to see that body cam footage. But it's so alarming how the system has failed this mom. She has full custodial rights. It was against her will that she be staying with these people. And It's so alarming what's happening in Colorado. So Cynthia is here this morning. It's the first time she's ever been on radio. And I'm just so grateful, Kim, for your support and bringing her on to have this story heard.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Cindy, thank you for sharing your story because I think most people think this could not happen to me. This is not happening in my school district. This was in Durango. As Laurie Gimmelstein mentioned, Erin Lee was up in Little Wellington. And this whole transgender indoctrination of our children, it's really everywhere. And I really think that these transgender activists target... vulnerable children and I remember when I was in junior high and high school my mom and I were not getting along that well and so for an activist to come in and insert themselves into that because that happens a lot Cindy you're not alone on that but what happened with this is is tragic and here you are going through your own health challenge and then this happens so walk us through this journey Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Again, speak to some of what Lori said. Yes, I was dealing with cancer and treatment. And I really wanted to protect my children from how hard that was for me because it was aggressive. It was aggressive treatment. And I think it was the catalyst for my daughter. And I just wasn't able to help her deal with the idea that mom might not be okay. And I think, again, Joanne Smotherman stepped in, whether it's malicious in the beginning or not, and kind of took her under her wing. Initially, I thought all of the time that Jocelyn was spending with this teacher was innocent. And then I noticed in her junior year that she really started to pull away from the family. And like you said, I never, ever would have thought that in small-town Durango that we could have these kinds of problems.
SPEAKER 06 :
So when did your daughter meet Joanne Smotherman before this? Has this been a progression to get to this point, or did it start in her junior year? What about that, Cindy?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, she actually met her her sophomore year. at Durango High School. And the funny thing is, her sophomore year, she couldn't stand this woman. She was a very openly gay lesbian teacher who had pride flags in her classroom, who spoke openly about her alternative lifestyle. And yeah, Jocelyn did not like her the first year that she had her as a teacher.
SPEAKER 06 :
What is the subject that Joanne Smotherman is ostensibly supposed to be teaching at Durango High School?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I have to mention she's no longer at Durango High School. Her teaching contract was apparently not renewed, but she is a math teacher, and she is currently at the Durango Adult Education Center, which is a nonprofit and does not play by the state of Colorado's rules.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
She's tutoring children and teaching outside of the school district.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so parents beware on that one. So you are going through your own health challenges, and I have a friend that's going through aggressive treatment for cancer right now. I know what that looks like. Just keeping it together is pretty difficult. So you have your kiddos there. Your daughter is vulnerable. That's all I can say about it. So then what happens, Cindy Stein?
SPEAKER 03 :
So through her junior year, she's starting to pull away from the family, and she's starting to want to dress in men's clothes. At first, it started with, like, jackets, and then it turned into pants. And then, you know, I noticed that she's got men's briefs on, boxer shorts, and then she's wanting to shave her head. And, you know, I'm thinking, okay, well... I'm allowing this because I'm thinking maybe she's just experimenting and trying to spread her wings, figure out who she is, which I don't want to stifle. I definitely want her to experiment and have that safe space here in my house. I just didn't realize how far this had gone and how much Joanne Smotherman was apparently whispering in her ear. And I'm guessing she was telling her, my daughter, that all of these problems of being a misfit, of being an outcast, all of those kids who ever told her she was a freak, all of these external problems are because she was born into the wrong body. And that's what I started hearing. And I started hearing the name Onyx. And I refused to call her by this new name. And we had some big clashes. And eventually, when I told my daughter that I was going to take her up to Denver for my purposes to get her away from the Durango influences. That resulted in her kicking out the screen of her window and running away. And she went straight to Joanne Smotherman's house.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. So then when was this, Cindy Stein? This was this past November of 2024. Okay. So the Joanne Smotherman and I don't quite understand trans husband what that is exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
But anyway, your daughter is there.
SPEAKER 06 :
And so then what happened, Cindy?
SPEAKER 03 :
So for 24 hours, I had no idea where my daughter was. She left everything here, including her phone. And so I couldn't trace her. I couldn't track her. She wasn't communicating with me. She didn't leave a note. I didn't know if she was okay. I didn't know if I was going to get a call from the hospital telling me to come identify my child. I just had no idea. And Joanne Smotherman didn't have the courtesy and the ethical backbone to contact me and say, hey, I've got your kid. And then, you know, let's let the situation cool down and I'll send her home. Nothing. I had no communication. I finally went to her place, my daughter's place of employment the next day. I didn't say anything to her because, but she knew I was there. She saw me. And her response was to go to the manager's office and have the security guard escort her out of the building.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. So we've got just about three and a half minutes left on this, Cindy. So you are on this journey. You've contacted at some point Lori and her team at Colorado Parents Advocacy Network. Also, you contacted the authorities, the police as well. So what happened there?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. So, yes, we had police involvements. We had CPS involvements. I have to say Lori was amazing in helping me navigate and trying to figure out which way to turn next. We went through a pretty intense journey with mental health facilities and gender affirming care in the home or lack of. And ultimately, at the end of the day, my daughter chose to leave the house on December 21st. And Joanne Smotherman's house was never an acceptable place to go, but that's where she went. And I have not been able to get her to come home since. Okay. She ignores my calls and texts, and Joanne Smotherman has not been cooperative in sending her home.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. So, Lori, what do you think next steps are for Cindy?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yesterday, Cindy filed a complaint with the La Plata County Deputy Sheriff to investigate the fact that the deputies that were called on scene on January 5th to help Cindy retrieve her daughter because the Smothermans are harboring her. They do not have permission from her mom to house her. And then the police went on scene. They basically mocked Cindy, and we, Cora requested the body cam footage. It's so alarming to watch how callous, how completely disengaged they were when they got to this motherman's house to check, they called it a welfare check on her daughter. and they they went in and they basically it sounds like they excuse me they said words to her daughter you know you're good right you're good that's all i need to hear is that you're good thanks for helping me check the boxes and then when they walked outside one of the deputies said like we're going to have to go speak to them referring to cindy and her two friends that joined her to help retrieve her daughter And the other officer made a joke about it. Yeah, they're going to basically freak out. And they started laughing before they drove down the driveway to go talk with Cindy and inform her that not only were they not going to help her, but there was nothing law enforcement can do. And so we've got a parent. She is a custodial parent. She did not get permission to this person who is harboring her child. And the people that are supposed to help us, the police failed to do so. And they mocked her.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. We have one minute left. Lori, thank you. This has gone quickly. Cindy, next steps. First of all, I'm sure prayers for your family, for your daughter, for you. Your next step.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can, again, only pray that my daughter... sees the situation differently and she sees the harm that the Smothermans have done to her and my family unit with her.
SPEAKER 06 :
And she comes home and has a huge change of heart. Okay. Well, Cindy Stein, thank you for sharing your story with us. Lori Gimbelstein, Colorado Parents Advocacy Network, thank you for all that you do. We certainly will put you in our thoughts and prayers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much. Have a wonderful day.
SPEAKER 06 :
And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. They realize that we need to be engaged in this battle of ideas. This is a battle for our children. And I so appreciate all that Lori Gimmelstein does over at the Colorado Parents Advocacy Network. And I appreciate Cindy Stein breaking this story on the local level with us. You can find it at The Daily Wire. LGBT activist, teacher, trans husband, house minor, teen girl in Colorado against mom's wishes. And I appreciate all our sponsors.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show with Kim Monson. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity. As we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. And I think somebody that agrees with me on this whole force issue is Jay Davidson. He is the founder and CEO of First American State Bank, which is a community bank located right here in the metro area. Jay Davidson, I think you agree with me on this force issue, yes?
SPEAKER 16 :
I totally and absolutely 100% agree with you.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had a feeling you were going to say that. So that was a little bit of a softball question like, what's your favorite ice cream? But it is actually there are people that really do like force. And what we're seeing is the veil is being pulled off on this, Jay Davidson. And we'll talk about that in just a moment regarding Doge. But before we do that. First American State Bank is a sponsor of the show, which I really greatly appreciate. And I'd always thought First American State Bank just worked with very high net worth individuals, but that's not the case, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, not at all. We have a lot of high net worth folks who appreciate community banking, the personal relationship that exists, but not at all. We're a In fact, we're expanding as fast as we possibly can into the millennial and Gen X folks, the younger folks. And my daughter is helping me with that by getting us into these mobile apps. I can say these words. I just don't know a thing about it, but I can say the words. But you can do all your banking online now on your iPhone if you want to, or you can come in. I mean, we're still the same community bank. We're still involved in our community. We'll still consult with you as an individual. And I would recommend that these young business people or young entrepreneurs that are coming up, I know it's easy for you to go to your corner bank and get a commodity product, but Consider the added advantage of the kind of knowledge that we have after all our years in banking and how we might be able to impart some of that knowledge to you as you make your decisions on your investments and lending and borrowing and so forth.
SPEAKER 06 :
Personal relationships are so important, and that's what First American State Bank offers. Jay Davidson, millennials have gotten, I think, a bad rap. But as I am seeing these young people around their 40s, coming into their 40s or a little over, I am seeing a move towards, and I'm going to put this in air quotes, conservatism. And that is that conserving this idea of our declaration that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So what that means is creating businesses, being a creator. And I am seeing an amazing amount of creativity from, you and I can both call them young people, but they're approaching middle age. And that's our millennials. And I know you're seeing that as well.
SPEAKER 16 :
Very true. The reason I started pivoting into the millennial business person is the friends I met through my children, who are obviously millennials, have their own children now, my dearly and beautiful beloved wife. grandchildren and so I'm meeting these people I was very impressed with them they come at business differently than I did mine was much more structured and I started in a giant corporation and worked my way through and then I went the entrepreneurial route well these young people are starting the entrepreneurial route right away and they're quite successful quite intelligent but I think I would be careful about the term conservative because it now has a connotation that probably does not appeal to a millennial that much. And I would recommend the term principled, perhaps. And by that, I mean somebody who lives according to a principle. And I think the principle that you and I can agree on, because you're very much a constitutionalist, is the sanctity of the individual, the right of the individual to decide for him or herself in whatever topic is there. Now, the decision obviously has to follow the laws of the land, and we all agree with that, and it also has to follow a moral and ethical code, and that's a personal decision, whether it's a Catholic, a religious, a Jewish, a non-denominational, non-secular decision. I mean, philosophers are also quite principled as are religious leaders, so I like to call it principled, and the principle is the sanctity of the individual.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I'm going to take that. Thank you for that comment on that. When you mentioned an ethical code, and I remember hearing Dennis Prager many years ago talking about the Ten Commandments. And he said if there was one commandment that was greater than any of the others, that he thought it was thou shalt not steal. And what we have seen with a bigger and bigger government is that we use government policy to, in essence, control. steal, I think, from one person to give to another because government finds it, and I used this word altruistic earlier in the week as our word of the day, and altruistic has been, I think, co-opted to use government to take from one person for the betterment of the other, but the decision maker there is the one that's considered altruistic. So What do you think about Prager's thought about stealing? Because I think it's unprincipled to steal from one to give to another.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. It is a commandment. You can argue about commandments, but I think it would be unwise to break them. There's a reason that they're there, and stealing is certainly at the top of the list. Stealing can entail money or goods. It can also entail freedom. And if we're if our freedoms are restricted by a arbitrary bureaucratic government decision, our freedoms are being stolen. And when you look at all the regulations that exist and the rules and regulations that exist that were not passed and according to our Constitution, therefore they're not lawful, you become surprised. You become shocked. One of the biggest complaints I hear in banking from young folks, and older obviously, is that getting a permit to build a building, take the risk of building a building, whether it's a condo or an office or mixed use, doesn't matter. The permitting process is horrendous. Well, what happened to our ability? If I'm willing to invest my capital into a project and take all the risk, why is some bureaucrat telling me that I have to put pink toilets in the men's bathroom? It's none of their business. I'll do what I want. And, you know, we've got to think down the terms of if you are an individual. then you, by our Declaration of Independence, have inalienable rights. That means rights that are bestowed on you by a creator, by something greater than man, greater than government, greater than even our Constitution. And that's what Thomas Jefferson was saying, is that you do have inalienable God-given or creation-given rights to life, liberty, and the ownership of property. Well, the ownership of property comes right into the concept of stealing, as you indicated.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and to your point, is with all of these hoops that individuals have to jump through to get this business open, that is, it's stealing an intangible. It's stealing opportunity. And I think it's important that people understand that, Jay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Very good point. Yeah, freedom of action and freedom... of opportunity that devolves therefrom. revolves there from. Yes, very good point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and the other thing, Jay, is I think all of us learn, we believe that in America, justice is supposed to be blind, right? And we look at the vision of the Declaration that all are created equal. To me, that means that we are all to be treated equally under the law. And so mentioning this opportunity to build a building or whatever, when I was on city council, And now also as the president of this volunteer group, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which were watching legislation, I've seen different policies and I did see some legislation down at the statehouse that wants to fast track projects that these PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties like. So, for example, a green policy. could be fast-tracked through the permit process, whereas just a regular person wanting to build a building, they might have to jump through all these different hoops. That is antithetical to the American idea, Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it absolutely is. This is a bureaucrat making a rule for us and stealing our freedom to choose. our inalienable right to make a choice. And it's absolutely unconstitutional. And yet this regulatory bureaucratic creep that has existed since Woodrow Wilson was president over 100 years ago has just gotten worse and worse. And I've got to say that this is not necessarily a Democrat, although they tend to do this more. But I've seen big government Republicans do the same kind of thing. And to me, it's not a Democrat or Republican decision. It's are you for more government or limited government? And by limited government, we mean limited by the Constitution. And if you're in favor of limited government, I'm on your side and you're on my side. That is the issue.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well said. One other thing before we go to break, and that is we were talking about this creep, if you will. And you and I both lived through political correctness where we might not say something because we were concerned that we might offend someone. As I look back at that now. That was an affront upon freedom of speech. But through kind of this cultural pressure, I was self-censoring myself. And it was a journey for me to understand that and another journey to say, certainly I want to be judicious and want to have discernment when I'm speaking. But I had decided once I realized that I was no longer judicious. going to self-censor myself because my concern that somebody else might not like what I'm saying. Your comments on that, Jay Davidson?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, this goes into the whole concept, and forgive me if I go astray here and cut me off if I do, but this is the whole concept of a democracy versus a constitutional republic. And by that I mean a constitutional republic says that we are not ruled by the majority. that we as individuals have certain inalienable rights. Now, there is a democratic process in our government every two, four, and six years that is democratic. One vote, one person, majority makes a decision. But after that one instance on election day, then we revert back to our constitutional republic, which says that you have the right and obligation to make your own way. And so when the majority rules, democracy is the tyranny of the majority over the minority. If there's 50% plus one vote, then that mass of people can make a decision that affects me that I don't like. And that is not the intent of a constitutional republic. That is the intent of a democracy. So when all these people spew out this whole concept of democracy, yes, there is an instant in time every two, four, and six years when there is a democratic activity called a vote, an election day. But after that, we absolutely have to go back to the concept of the Constitutional Republic, which is the sanctity of the individual, the right of the individual to make a decision on his or her own. So I don't know if I've answered your question. I've kind of gone astray here. But I'm trying to get to the point where it is the right of the individual to make individual decisions. It is not the right of the government to infringe on our freedoms.
SPEAKER 06 :
And we are at such an interesting time right now, Jay Davidson. So we're going to go to break. We'll continue the discussion with Jay Davidson. He is the founder and CEO of First American State Bank, a community bank, personal relationships. Those are so important. And another great sponsor of the show is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Two things, as you know, I totally support the USMC Memorial Foundation raising money for the remodel of the marine memorial to make that a reality they're going to have their second golf tournament in may and this is kind of early bird there's only going to be a certain number of golfers so great way to support the foundation and to meet some new people and play a great golf course it's the ridge and more information on that go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org And then the other nonprofit that I feature on a regular basis on the show is the Center for American Values, located down in Pueblo. And they're going to have a great On Values presentation, middle part of April, with Norma Donland, who is the widow of Roger Donland. And Roger was the first Medal of Honor recipient from the Vietnam War. And so you can get more information on that by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. Talking with Jay Davidson, he's the CEO and founder of First American State Bank, a community bank located right here in the metro area, and really personalized service. And so be sure and check that out. What is that website, Jay Davidson?
SPEAKER 16 :
FASbank.com.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, FASBank.com, standing for FirstAmericaStateBank.com. And Jay Davidson, a lot is happening in our world. Wanted to get your thoughts about Elon Musk and Doge. And I find it so interesting that people are protesting in the streets. To me, it seems like they're saying, we want more waste, fraud, and abuse. But what's your thoughts about Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency?
SPEAKER 16 :
Interesting concept to form a government agency to eliminate other government agencies. And I know that Elon works for no pay. But anyway, I was kind of blown away by Trump's first few weeks in office. It's like he had taken the four years when he was sitting out when Biden was president. and planned this to the nth degree, to detail, to an absolute detailed degree, because he was up and running in very short order. He had the people in place, and he had the policies in place, the ideas in place, and he just started implementing right away, characteristic of a really good business person. Now, whether what he's doing is right or wrong, time will tell. I have long railed against the waste and the cost bureaucracy, government agencies, the administrative state, the deep state, the incursion of a bureaucrat into my life and your lives has been horrendous and has gotten worse and worse. Granted, I see more of it than a lot of people because I'm in a highly regulated industry, and we should be regulated. I'm fine with that. But I see arbitrariness in the way that these regulations are implemented. And it's very hard to run a business on an arbitrary basis. So I've been really against that situation forever. And all my friends in oil and gas and medicine and so forth feel the same way. The regulatory agencies have invaded their turf. So the point I'm trying to get at is that Musk is pretty astonishing. I appreciate how methodical he is in going after all this waste, which we knew was there. I just didn't realize the extent of it. It blows my mind. I mean, at first I thought, well, USA must do some good stuff. And, you know, Elon blew it out 100% in the first couple of weeks he was in position. I thought, what is going on here? Then I look at where they were spending their money and how much money they were spending. I mean, millions of dollars for Hamas training on transgenderism. Are these people? I mean, it's the whole mentality of the administrative state of the bureaucrat not to conserve capital because they don't have any capital in the deal. But their job is to spend every dollar they can get. So next year they can get more. Now, this is antithetical to the benefit of the people whose money they are spending. And if you really think about it, we taxpayers are paying for USAID's $100 million to Hamas transgender training. Give me a break.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and I saw or somebody mentioned a meme to me is why are we paying other countries to hate us? If they want to hate us, they can hate us for free.
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Yeah, that's true. A lot of good it's doing now. My friends in the Foreign Service will tell me that it does some good. And I'm saying, okay, fine, then prove it and live according to it. I mean, in a business world, and I know that I can't apply my business ethics to a bureaucrat, but I'm paying for it. You know, I just spent a horrendous amount of money on taxes. And I'm saying, I'm tired of this, people. You keep saying, oh, it's just a little bit here, a little bit there. We'll just tax the rich. And now it's to the point of breaking our backs. And the other point I'd like to make is that when you hear about the news, when Kyle Clark talks about Doge, what Kyle and the whole left-wing machine that's out there is going to talk about is the harm that Elon Musk is doing to an individual. And you know what? I can't argue with him. That poor person, that bureaucrat, is going to have a life-changing event. And I can feel empathy for that person. However, what the Kyle Clarks of this world don't ever talk about is the effect, the net effect, of a government spending more and more and more of our gross domestic product, more of our income. They're And we started the conversation with the word steal. Well, when taxation gets to the point of 50 percent of your income, that is absolute theft. And that's where we are right now at the very high end of the scale with all the state, local, regional and federal taxes. So I'm tired of the stealing.
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Well, and yes, I think that we, the American taxpayers, have been fleeced by all of this. I think the good Lord asked for 10%. I think government all in should be able to operate on 10%. Just think what would happen regarding creativity and innovation if we all had an additional 40%. in in our pocket but jay you bring up an an interesting point i think all of us on a micro level we do we think about the individual that it may be a family they have a house payment uh i i know that i'm concerned about that however And Daniel Turner with Power the Future, and I had a conversation about this, is no Kyle Clark, none of those on the left gave a flying rip about any of those oil and gas workers that lost their jobs on day one with the Biden-Harris administration, where Joe Biden died. stopped the Keystone Pipeline, 8,000 people lost their jobs at that particular point in time, and there was no tears for them whatsoever.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's all pretty one-sided, isn't it? It's all directed to a political goal. And the only goal that I can see, that I can understand, is total control. And that's why I differentiate the two camps. One believes in tyranny and control, and they do it through the regulatory or bureaucratic state. And the other believes in freedom. And we believe in a constitution. We believe in limited government. Now, we may be small in number, but the message that we have, that you have, and that you've been bringing forward is the idea that you as an individual have freedom to choose not from a government, not from a law, but from your creator. It's intrinsic in who you are and what you are, but you've got to exercise it. Now, we talk freedom all the time, but the other side of freedom is responsibility. They don't exist one without the other. So what is your responsibility to freedom? You need to know what's going on. That's why you're listening to this radio show and other ones like it and reading what you do read. You're involved. And I'd say... Speak out in your own way. Find your own voice and articulate. You don't have to follow what some bureaucrat tells you to do in Washington. It's not legal in any way, shape, or form. And do your silent revolt. Like you said, I don't need to be politically correct. That's no way to think. That's just brainwashing. Well, let's get some more information out there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and we need to be engaging, to your point, and that's why we do the show, is for people to get their brains around these issues, find their voices, engage in conversation, and we change the culture on this. We have about three minutes left, Jay Davidson, and I think you and I both, we've had these conversations about this out-of-control government debt, this out-of-control spending. I Not sure that I ever thought we could get this ship turned around. But I think Donald Trump, with his team and with Doge, when Musk says he may find a trillion dollars in savings, my gosh, that's half of the deficit. I think we can get this ship turned around. I'm very encouraged. Your thoughts?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and we're $36 trillion in debt. And if you add in the unfunded commitment, it's more like $70 trillion. So the number is horrendous, and it's unsustainable, absolutely, totally unsustainable. And you and I won't pay for it. Our grandchildren will pay for it. That's the horrendous thing. That's why we must be involved here to stop this government spending. Because if you think debt, the next thought should be spending. The spending exists. The debt exists because the spending is happening. And why are they spending all this money? They're buying votes from people that don't want to work for a living. And they're using our money to buy votes. That's why they're spending all this money on welfare and entitlements. So, you know, you can talk about the poor guy that's losing his job in the government. Well, what about you losing your job and your money and your grandchildren being crushed by this kind of debt? You've got to balance it out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And that is what I have said is where we were headed off a cliff. And I know that it's a little bit pain. Well, it's painful now. But if we don't get this turned around, it's going to be really, really painful. Jay Davidson, as always, it goes way too quickly. What's your final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 16 :
You have you have the inalienable right to freedom of choice to your own decisions. This is gratitude by your creator, whether you call him God or Jehovah or Elohim. I don't care. So you have that right. And I would ask you to exercise it judiciously, but do exercise it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, absolutely. Jay Davidson, thank you so much. It's always a riveting conversation. Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're welcome.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that's Jay Davidson, CEO and founder of First America State Bank. That website is FASBank.com. Our quote for the end of the show is James Madison. He said, it is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers, but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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Talking about freedom Talking about freedom I will fight
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. Great show planned. Lots in the first hour, and we've got Professor Kurt Gerwitz in studio for the second hour. Great to have you, Professor.
SPEAKER 12 :
One of your fan favorites, I'm sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. We always get a lot of interaction on the text line, which is 720- 720-605-0647. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. And you'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. And again, that text line is 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you. And I am fighting my... Don't you say anything about... Anything on that, Kurt Gerwitz, about AI. I'm getting the finger point already. I may actually have to do that.
SPEAKER 12 :
If you want to be productive, it can help.
SPEAKER 06 :
I do want to be productive. We're talking about my email inbox. And Kurt Gerwitz says I should use AI to help me with that. Yes. So we'll talk about that at some point. Anyway, be sure and, well, first of all, you can hear the show 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday on all KLZ 560 platforms. The first hour is rebroadcast in the afternoon 1 to 2, second hour 10 to 11 at night. Those platforms are KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And I thank all of you who support us, all of our great sponsors, and all of you. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity. by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. It should be able to stand on its own merits. And that's why we do this show is because force comes around in a lot of different ways. Now, it used to be, Kurt, in the old days, it was... The bad guys riding into the village and plundering and raping and all those things because they had weapons. But now what we see is that they're using the terms compassionate and altruistic to take your stuff. And that would be your property, your rights, your freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, childhoods. You did listen to the first hour. This...
SPEAKER 12 :
We're shaking that off. We're taking that heavy topic. It's scary. There's a dark cloud over that conversation.
SPEAKER 06 :
There is. This LGBTQ activist teacher in Durango befriends a vulnerable student and encourages the student that is a female, that she is not a female, that she's a boy. I hadn't really thought of it. That probably is... A sign that something is happening if your girl says she wants to wear boxer shorts. I hadn't even thought about that. But this is happening in our little towns here in America. And people think, oh, I live in a little town. It's not going to happen. There's Durango. We broke the story with Erin Lee and her daughter up in little old Wellington, Colorado. And so I know I'm getting off a little bit on my way they take things, but they're taking our children's childhoods and focusing on and hopefully next week we're going to have one of the talk show hosts from one of the other stations reached out and asked me if I would get this particular guest on. So just stay tuned on that regarding what's happening in our schools. But so anyway, force can be obviously a weapon. And, Kurt, I know this is heavy. I have to say this, though. And when I did my testimony down at the statehouse on one of Scott Bottom's bills, which was forcing insurance companies, he wanted to prevent insurance companies from being forced to have to provide malpractice insurance for physicians that are doing trans surgeries and trans pharmaceuticals on kids. And I began with my surgery with when the bad guys used to ride into the village. If they would have lined up our children and cut off the breasts of our adolescent girls and cut off the penises of our boys, we would have said, enough. You're not doing that. That's not good. But we have that happening in America right now, Kurt Gerwitz.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, what came to mind, oh, gosh, was a few things. My mind's already racing around, Kemp. It's a riveting subject.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I don't think we know what childhood is – like what an ideal childhood is supposed to be like. I had a therapist in my past tell me that – and he had a number on it. He said 11 percent of children get out of childhood without trauma. And when someone says that to me, I think, do you mean – this happens a lot when you're in the middle of the – when you're not thinking as international as I – want my students and clients to think. When someone says that, it's like, oh, is that a statistic on planet Earth? Or is that a statistic of Americans? Because the population of America, we're only 4% of the world. So I assume it means Americans, that 11% of Americans get out of childhood without trauma. And I just throw my hands in the air and throw my pencil across the room and I say, well, that should be our metric on society, right next to how do we treat our prisoners, right? That's a famous... The measure of a society or a civilization is how are the prisoners treated. And now I'm thinking, well, no, now we have a percentage on how many children escape childhood without trauma. You and I both have trauma.
SPEAKER 06 :
We talked about it at lunch.
SPEAKER 12 :
Lowercase t, nothing too serious, I hope.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so we'll talk a little bit more about it. I think life, though, has trauma. It just does, and so we have to learn how to deal with that trauma. So let's get into that more as we're talking about legacies and things in the second and third segment of this. But force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, this agenda by the World Economic Forum, the globalist elites. United Nations, what's happening down here at the Colorado State Legislature with the approval of this Colorado governor. He's no libertarian. Land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. The list goes on and on and on. And we need to pull that back. On the show, there are several things that we focus on. We have all of these great guests and interesting stories today. But I want to make sure that we are always focusing. First of all, these elections are super important. And at this point in time, I am sending out update letters to all of our funders for our two lawsuits. And there's more to come on these elections. But if we don't have elections, free, fair, honest and transparent elections, we're just spinning our wheels. We can spend all the money that we want. We can get all the great candidates that we want. We can try to get these candidates elected. We can stand against many of these bad issues. And we have had some success, but we must make sure that we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. And we need to make sure that we understand the issues and we have good candidates. And I'm committed to work on that. And also we focus on our children, protecting our children, climate change, and particularly with the movie that I was involved in, ClimateConversation.com, which you can watch for free. And then also property rights. And property rights are inherent in the American idea. And if we don't have property rights, we really don't have freedom. And those property rights certainly are tangible. Property rights are intangible. But another person. that stands up for property rights diligently. She's worked at the local, the county, the state, and the national level. And she is a award-winning realtor, great sponsor of the show, great friend. And hopefully she doesn't know I'm talking about her, Kurt Gerwitz. But that's Karen Levine. Karen Levine, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. It seems like a lot to live up to, but that really is you. And you and I have known each other a long time, and you walk your talk. And I really appreciate it.
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Well, thank you. Thank you. And that was quite the segue from all the other conversations you're having, which are many and very valuable. But yes, private property rights and homeownership is the key to building wealth in America. And as you were referring to public policy, what our legislators are doing over time have taken away many of those rights and have made affordability very complicated and difficult. I would say difficult in Colorado and really nationwide, but more so here at home. And that's why the work you're doing and the work I am and the Colorado Association of Realtors is doing is trying to protect those rights.
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Well, and this legislature is in session until May 6th, although what they do – and so many times we think, oh, we could have a sigh of relief that the legislature is finally out of session. But no, no, no. What they've done is they have then implemented – what I call PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, to go out and continue this onerous stuff that they're doing. And so that's why shining and shedding light on this is so important. But it's, gosh, it's March. Easter's late this year, I think, but we're in the spring selling season. I'm seeing houses, signs around the community saying, So tell us inventory. We talked with Lauren Levy yesterday about mortgages to be pre-qualified. He said that well-priced and well-maintained homes are moving. But there's things that people need to do if they're going to be selling their home, particularly during this selling season.
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Correct. If you're interested in getting your home on the market over these next I would say 30 days to six weeks, maybe 60 days, but that is the height of our selling season in the front range. And the things you need to do is hopefully pick up the phone, give me a call and we can have a consultation and talk about getting your home ready. But what I've experienced over the last couple of weeks is, as Lauren stated, homes that have been prepared and in many cases, I provide what's called a walk and talk consultation with a professional stager who walks in and goes room by room and helps you configure each of those rooms so that it highlights your home in the photographs. And then when people walk in, they know what to expect, but also they see the home. And that's what we want is that we're selling a home. We're not, we're not selling furniture. all the activities and collectibles and those types of things that we have in our home when we're living in our home. But what we're seeing is really good buyer activity, and whether it's sad or good, I think it's good for the marketplace is multiple offers, again, because those good homes, people want to buy them, and they are willing to pay market value or maybe a tad above that to get that home despite interest rates being higher than they were, you know, three to five years ago. So homeownership is still a dream that people are achieving, and that's exciting.
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So, Karen, have you looked at all, and I didn't mention that I would mention this to you, but the Trump proposal about using some public lands to make freedom cities. Now, I talked to Trent Luce yesterday. He said he thought they were going to be smart cities. Of course, I think smart cities are a bad idea, but I do like the idea that of opening up land for single-family homes for property ownership. I think the National Realtors had at least made comments on it. Have you looked into that much at all, or shall we talk about that next week?
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I haven't looked into it at all with regards to what Trump is suggesting, but I do know when I was the National Association of Realtors director, we talked about utilizing public lands to bring more product to the marketplace. And if you have more product, the product should become more affordable. And so we started looking at that as a National Association of Realtors of how can you do that. So it kind of excites me to hear that President Trump is thinking that might be something that would be beneficial. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF LAND IS THAT'S OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT. IT'S A LOT. IT'S A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE. AND THE STATE OF COLORADO, OUR PERCENTAGE IS EVEN HIGHER THAN OTHER STATES. SO I THINK THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITY THERE, BUT WE NEED TO BE WISE IN MAKING THOSE POLICY DECISIONS, RIGHT? AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT LONG-TERM EFFECTS IF WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BECAUSE WE SEE THAT SOMETIMES Policy that is well-meaning, that is to protect the consumer, to protect the homebuyer, to protect the homeowner, can be harmful down the road. And we've seen that with affordability or lack thereof here in Colorado.
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Oh, correct. And one other question, going back to staging, if you're selling your home, I've heard that it's great to have a candle or something that smells like cookie dough or something like that in your house. Is that true to make it more homey?
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, it can be detrimental. And I say that because we've become a society of allergies. And what I did learn is that vanilla is very offensive to a lot of people. But the safe scent is a citrus. Citrus is a clean scent, and it can give you a fresh scent in your home. But the cookie idea is really good if they're actual cookies. And for someone who showed... close to a dozen homes last Friday, and we did not really have time to stop for a meal. The house that had the freshly baked chocolate chip cookies certainly warmed my heart and my tummy.
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Aha, okay. Well, that's your nugget of wisdom today from Karen Levine, Remax Realtor. People should reach out to you. It doesn't cost anything. What's that phone number, Karen Levine?
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The phone number is 303- 877-7516.
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welcome back to the kim monson show check out our website that is kim monson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom something's a good idea you shouldn't have to force people to do it we focus on the issues on the show and we'll talk about the people pushing the issues we're trying to stay out of the eighth grade girl fighting And there's a lot of that that happens in politics. But we work on focusing on the issues so you can stay disciplined in your conversations with people. Yeah, I may expound upon that. I'll just leave that hanging out there. But thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And also Hooters Restaurants is a great sponsor of the show as well. And how I got to know them, it is one of those important stories about freedom and free markets and capitalism and pesky PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that want to control our lives. And Hooters Restaurants has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great lunch specials. My guest, Professor Kurt Gerwitz, you and I are going to – have lunch at Hooters restaurant a little bit later.
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I'm probably going to have those fish tacos again every time.
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You have the same thing.
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I actually mixed it up. Yeah, you ventured out. I was so proud of you.
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Yeah, I think I'll go back to the great fish and chips, though. I'm kind of hungry for that, so we'll see. But great, great location. And March Madness, we're in the middle of March Madness. What a great place to watch the games with your friends is Hooters Restaurant. So, again, check out their locations. That's Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Are you a basketball fan?
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You know what I love about March Madness is the probabilities. Of course you would because you're a professor. I think that math helps so many people.
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So did you do a bracket? Did it help you?
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No. Well, yes and no. The probabilities of your team winning from the beginning are astronomical. And Warren Buffett, he says, like, I'll give you a million dollars if you pick the winning team or something like that. And I saw a good one that you'll like. You know, I love these prediction markets. It's a new thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Of course you do.
SPEAKER 12 :
I remember you saying that. Well, I lost money. I don't know if I should say this on the air, but here it comes. I gambled, I bet, money that Donald Trump was going to lose the popular vote. It's not ideological. I was just trying to – I thought I saw – group of people who were gambling and it was a 30 they gave it a 30% chance that Trump would win the popular vote okay and so I was like I only put down a couple hundred bucks and this was introduced to me by a bartender who could probably less afford the money to because gambling money is always just entertainment dollars it should be in your budget there and And he was talking about putting thousands on it because he really believed that we hadn't had a Republican win the popular vote in – since Reagan, I think. And so I lost like $100. That's entertainment money. I could afford to lose that. But I – these prediction markets are – you can just – you go up against – other people are just saying what they think is going to happen. And you say what you think is going to happen, and then there's probabilities placed on it based on how much people are gambling on that. And they become prediction markets because they become very – what that does, that free market conversation creates like a probability of what's going to happen in the future. And there's one that says there's a greater – the probability markets say there's an 11% chance, which is higher than any of the single teams in the – March Madness, that alien life will be discovered in, I assume this means bacteria on Mars or the moon. But yeah, so there's a greater chance of alien life being discovered than your team winning the whole bracket.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Because the number one team never wins, right?
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Well, sometimes it does. So a couple of things. First of all, you were talking about the probabilities. And typically I try not to be an emotion girl. However, my bracket was emotion. It's like, oh, I know somebody in that state. And so I'll go with that one.
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I always cheer for Marquette or Gonzaga because they're Jesuit schools. And I went to a Jesuit school and I teach at a Jesuit school. Yeah. So it's that emotion.
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And then I chose KU and Houston in the finals. And KU had a terrible record. They were struggling. And I thought, well, maybe. Well, they got, they didn't even make it through the first round. So again, emotion is not the way to make your decisions. That's for sure.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. For the probability markets, the prediction markets will help you figure out the real odds of the probabilities of what's going to happen.
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Next year. Next year, that's what I'm going to do. So my $10 and my pool is gone. But I just blew right through our word of the day and our quote of the day. And so let's do that. Your challenge will be to use this word of the day in a sentence, Kurt Gerwitz, as well as all of you out there. And it's reciprocity, R-E-C-I-P-R-O-C-I-T-Y. Thank you to Eric for his suggestion on that. And this I always think is a little lame when they use the word in the definition.
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So reciprocity. We were taught in grade school you're not allowed to do that.
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Yeah. A reciprocal condition or relationship. But next, mutual understanding. Or cooperative interchange of favors, privileges, especially the exchange of rights or privileges of trade between nations. Well, I think we see a lot of the cooperative interchange of favors or privileges in politics. And then lastly, a mutual action and reaction. So I think that as I look at PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties that are pushing some of this legislation down at the statehouse, I think there must be some reciprocity. And at this point, you all have a to-do thing, and that is to go to Colorado Union of Taxpayers. That's coloradotaxpayers.org. And at this point, I want to say thank you to the team. That's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. These are all volunteers. We're taking positions on legislation down at the Statehouse. And as of this today... There are 561 pieces of legislation or resolutions that have been introduced down at the Statehouse. Your volunteer group of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers has taken positions on 216 of those. And we just invested significant funds for us because we're an all-volunteer organization. That's why we'd love to have you join us. It's only $25 a year or $2.08 a month. But we rolled out yesterday cut engaged. And this is a great opportunity. You can go to our website, coloradotaxpayer.org. And at the very top, it says cut engaged. Click on that. We have selected three bills to begin with. Two of them are being heard today. So this is very timely. You will be able to send an email directly to the bill sponsors. And if you want to add in your senator and your legislator, we've got links to make that happen. Super easy. And this is a way for you to easily make your voice heard. And the three bills that we selected... House Bill 1269, building decarbonization measures. This is all in piling on the Green New Deal and the Green New Deal. Do you know what the Green and the Green New Deal is, Kurt Gerwitz?
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Dollars.
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It's dollars. Ding, ding, ding. Next, Senate Bill 25, coal transition grants. And so what happened here in Colorado, they said, we're going to shut down those that that clean burning coal fired plant that's providing reliable and efficient and affordable and abundant energy for people. And those people are going to lose their jobs. You know what? All these people that have been so whacked. about Doge and people losing their jobs there. They haven't given a flying rip about the people working in these coal-fired plants on the western slope that are losing their jobs. So then, to make themselves feel good, they said, we're going to have a transition program. And lots of money's been spent on it. Maybe one person's got a job. And so we are opposing this coal transition grants bill. And you can, too, by just going to coloradotaxpayer.org and let the sponsors know what you think about that. Maybe they might pull it. And then the last one, and this is one that Ramey Johnson talked about last week. I don't think it's scheduled for hearing yet, but I wanted to put that on there. And these are these tap fees for special districts. This is a special deal that legislators, particularly the one that was elected out in the Lakewood area in Jeffco, Rebecca Stewart, is pushing as a special deal for developers for the federal center out there. And so, again, no special treatment. That's what this is. And so you can go to ColoradoTaxpayer.org. Kurt, that's going to be your homework while we're sitting here. And go in and make your voices heard. And, again, we at Colorado Union of Taxpayers have put significant money into this. All of these things happen because of our sponsors. And one of those is Lavaca Meat Company. It's located at the corner of Maine and Nevada. It is a premium beef product, and it's really good for your protein source for your diet, and it tastes really good, too.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Professor Kirk Gerwitz is in studio. with me and we're going to talk about legacy. But a perfect thing to talk about regarding legacy is to buy a brick to honor your loved one's military service that will be on one of their pathways of service. And you can do that by going to USMC Memorial Foundation, Mother's Day, Father's Day is right around the corner. Plan early. Get that done. Also, they are going to have their second golf tournament May 15th. And you can get more information about that by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.org as well. Professor Kurt Gerwitz, first of all, tell us what you're up to and your students. Tell us a little bit about, you know, all that you're doing.
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Yes. So this is the season. Twice a year, I teach a class at DU. on the, it's the business certificate program. So it's not a, it's not a typical undergrad class. It's out of their university college. And I teach the business of the financial planning for business. I call it, I shortcut that. I call it startup finance. So I'm teaching startup finance. A hundred percent of my students are immigrants. A hundred percent of my students are, um, So that means – actually, I couldn't say that 100% are ESL, meaning English as a second language. But it's so inspiring to me to talk to immigrants. If you want to love America, talk to an immigrant. Like, they are – Now, are they legal? Yeah. Well, you know, I'm not – I'm not asking that question. I don't care, Kim. If they're here, I'm going to help them. If they're in my – you know, it's like – We're going to go deep real quick here. That happens, doesn't it? Yeah, sorry. But, you know, I was living in the South, and I learned this thing about the difference between Southern racism and Northern racism. Okay, now, we're so far West, I'm not sure how this applies. But in Southern racism, they would say that they hate the race, but they love the individual. And in Northern racism, it's the opposite. You would say that they... They hate the individual.
SPEAKER 06 :
They love the race. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
They love the race and hate the individual.
SPEAKER 06 :
Never thought about that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
And it's it's interesting because it's like, you know, like I've seen my Yankee friends who would like if a black person moved next door, they they'd leave the neighborhood. Right. We're in the south. That doesn't happen because they coexist. The races coexist. And and my dad was, you know, he he was he he hated the race and loved the individual. But my father was a southern racist.
SPEAKER 06 :
So but you grew up in St. Louis, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I grew up eating grits and saying y'all, even though even though St. Louis is kind of Missouri was a slave state. The governor fought for the South. The legislature voted to stay with the union. So it was actually there were more Civil War battles in Missouri than any other state except for Virginia. It was a border state. It was the place where families were divided, where brothers were shooting guns against other brothers. So we're not actually as divided in this country today as we were then. Knock on wood. But we're probably where it feels like a close second place. So my point about this, though, is that like if I'm face to face with a human being, Kim, I don't care if they're documented or undocumented. Now, I care if they're a violent criminal or not.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, but I have to ask this question, is how is it that somebody that could be undocumented or illegal would have the money to be going to college? I don't understand that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, because they work. They actually pay a lot of taxes, too. But this is not supposed to be an argument about immigration. I'm telling you, these immigrants are great. My student immigrants are amazing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, we'll leave it at that.
SPEAKER 12 :
They are great.
SPEAKER 06 :
They want to learn.
SPEAKER 12 :
Your family has immigrants in it.
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I know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And they are great people and they left you here in America to live your best life possible. They chose America as the best country in the world. They had reasons to move here and they were industrious and entrepreneurial and my students are all of those things. And they're all from crazy all over different countries, right? Like Africa and there's a few from from europe even and um there's even less than less spanish speakers than you might expect and So I'm teaching them how to – I'm teaching them the American dream. And it is so great because I'm teaching them also like a little bit of American business culture, like you have to show up on time. And you can call someone in business in America. You can call some – you call people by their – adults call each other adults by their first name. And you come from these cultures where there's like the hierarchy – is more firm, the social hierarchy is so rigid, and there's not as much social mobility, and that's what makes America great is our social mobility. And economic mobility. That's what I mean, yeah. Yes, that too. And so I'm doing that. So I'm teaching startup finance there. And I'm going to give a presentation at Regis University where I teach the other class. And the innovation challenge will be April 18th. And I'm giving a presentation before that to the – there's four competing businesses. And they get to go before – it's kind of like a – I shouldn't say it's like a shark tank because they don't really have products and they're not pitching for investment. But they are – they're going to convince a panel of judges that they've got the best business idea. So I love a good business competition. Yeah. Yeah. It's really great.
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Can people, is it open to the public?
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It is open to the public. April 18th, you'd have to Google Regis Innovation Challenge to go watch these. They have to have a connection to Regis, but they're taking businesses from the community and you can just grab a student to join your team and and compete that way. And a lot of schools have these competitions. In fact, the end of that DU class is a pitch competition that's a graduation. I don't know if that's open to the public or not. I'd have to check. But it's, yeah, so lots of good things going on. And I'm the legacy catalyst speaker. I'm a professional public speaker. And so that's why I wanted to come in and talk to you about legacy. You and I, we've always talked about, well, you dragged me into politics. But I always want to talk about the economy and finance and the transformative power of financial education. And one of the things, the overlap between the two, the biggest overlap between legacy and financial education is kind of like what you leave behind because you can't take it with you. Right, Kim?
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Never seen a hearse with a U-Haul, right? No.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's a great line. Oh, I'm stealing that line. I'm going to say that on stage.
SPEAKER 06 :
You like that? Okay, you can use that. Thank you. So let's go to break a little bit early on this, Kurt Gerwitz. And we want to hear from you as well, 720-605-0647, to talk a bit about legacy. And we have other email or text messages that are coming in as well that I'd like to try to get to. But I want to make sure we get to this subject on legacy. I think it's super important. And these discussions, we have them because of our – wonderful sponsors if you've been injured you want to make sure that you take prompt action action and you work with great people on this as well it's a difficult time so reach out to john bosin with bosin law for a complimentary appointment if you've been injured
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. In studio is Professor Kirk Gerwitz. Hold our thought on legacy. We've got Ron on the line. Not sure what he's going to weigh in on. Ron, what's on your radar?
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Yeah, Kim, the gentleman that you had speaking as a guest, I strongly disagree because my big brother was African-American, black. He took me in when my family broke up. And no white people wanted to move away when he moved in. And The racist that I've seen is when I went to North Carolina and I tried to go into a bar and they said I couldn't go in because I was white. So I think he's skewed, I guess. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Ron, and thank you because this is your own personal experience. And so, yeah. Do you have any comments on that, Kurt?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I appreciate anybody who calls in and has anything to say. I don't think that I was trying to say anything that would contradict what I just heard.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm speaking in generalities.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, in generalities. Ron, I thank you for that. Let me just share a story about, I think racism, Ron, is learned. And I've shared this story on the air before. But I had gotten to know a guy, and we were on a board together. And he had played football at, I think, Iowa State. And big guy and black. And he was always talking about his wife. And when I met her... She was like this Irish redheaded, you know, very, you know, fair skinned woman. And and so the two of them together, they got married in the 70s. They both were attending Iowa State. And that was pretty unheard of, Ron, at that time. interracial marriages. So they were really groundbreaking. So Ron, my friend, told me, no, his wife, Mary, told me the story that her little niece had come home from school and had said to her mother, she was probably kindergarten, first grade, that something derogatory about black people. And Mary's sister, the child's mom, said, well, what about uncle ron he's black and she's like he is and she goes well haven't you looked at the family pictures and i thought that was absolutely precious ron that here this little one didn't see color whatsoever and that was where i decided that racism is taught ron yes yeah it's just
SPEAKER 07 :
It's all in being in the military. I just look at people as dark green, light green. So I don't look at race. So that's just me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I love that. Ron, thanks for calling in on that. And so let's get over here, Kurt, to you regarding legacy. And I had never really thought of the word legacy. We hear that about legacies of presidents. And a number of years ago, my cousin was in town. We had lunch, and he said something about your legacy. And I've never really thought about legacy. So it was interesting that you brought this up.
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Yeah, it came to me from my business coach who said, you know, if you were to brand myself as a professional public speaker, what would you most want to just sit around the coffee table with your friends and talk about? And for me, it's long-term thinking. It's that... You know, the thing I do in the transformative power of financial education shows up with the It shows up when I say like do you have a relationship to your future self? And legacy is just what are you going to leave behind? And usually – the name of the game is that long-term thinking beats short-term thinking. So my favorite question and one I will propose to you, Kim, is like what advice would the best version of yourself five years from now give you? Matthew McConaughey gets teased. He was receiving an award one time, and he said, people ask me who my hero is. And he says, my hero is myself in five years. Oh, that's cute. And it sounds comical because it sounds egotistical. It sounds selfish. And, you know, like my hero is myself sounds like a silly thing to say. But there's real wisdom in that because what he meant was he's always challenging himself individually. to be the best version of himself and to have a connection to his future self. And so there's a real power in thinking about the future. Now, it's, you know, the spirituality part of me says, and mental health piece says, when you're thinking about the past, you can get depressed. When you're thinking about the future, you can get anxious. And yet there's also a real utility to putting on that hat and saying, what would Kim Monson... What advice would she, you know, what would she say about this decision? What advice would you give yourself looking back from your future self when you're 90 years old and you're happy and you've lived a good life? What would you say about what you should be doing with your time now?
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And Gammy, hold on here because we want to give you a minute and a half here in just a minute. Okay. Legacy. First of all, I have in my will where I would want my ashes. to be buried i to me i i like a gravestone i like i like something out there that says this person lived so i i've i've determined where i want that to be it's it's in my happy place and of course my real happy place will be um with christ again on the other side um but um I like that idea versus just my ashes in a jar in the pantry. And I don't want to discount anything with anybody, but that is something part of the legacy. The other legacy is I really go back to our founders, and I find great heart when I look at the Declaration of Independence, when they said that they are pledging their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. Because the legacy that they wanted to live is liberty for our next generations. And that's why I'm doing what I'm doing is when it's all said and done, when my kids, my grandkids look at it, they may disagree with me on things that I do in life, but I want them to know. She left it all on the field. She did everything that she could because she felt this duty, this great American idea that you are teaching your students about, that we are making sure that we pass that on to the next generation. So does that answer your question?
SPEAKER 12 :
I like it. You know, when I thought about your legacy, you put a lot of words out into the universe. And when they're on podcasts, they're being recorded. And people will be able to listen to you. You and I, we can't listen to our great, great grandparents. But your great, great grandchildren will be able to listen to you.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a very interesting point. So with that, I do want to get over and give Gammy a minute and a half because I know that she has been she's a prolific maybe should be our next word of the day. She's a prolific writer as she is working in public policy. Gammy, you've got a minute and a half. Welcome to the show.
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Good morning. All due respect to everybody. Love you guys. But let me tell you something. I was brought from Germany to America in Norfolk, Virginia. And let me tell you something. You know about the talk in the South when you come from Norfolk, Virginia. And there were a lot of racist attitudes, but I didn't embrace them. I grew up with friends from all cultures because there is only one race, the human race. Everybody gets that wrong. Number two, the Marxists, they could not destroy us on economy because of our robust middle class, so they pounded the racism. And it's bull hockey. Yes, it exists in pockets all over, sure. Planned Parenthood, abortion clinics are more racist. They kill more black babies than anybody. And now as to teaching and the future, hon, we are cutting off weenies and boobs. There'll be no future if we don't wake up and quit the justice warring into colleges and universities, teaching kids to fight. And the trans children are all taken advantage of. They're the innocents. It is such a crime when you talk about what ought to be done. But illegal people should not come before legal citizens. And right now, there are citizens all over America who can't pay their student debt. And there are legal Americans fighting for the country. And we're trying to pay for millions of people that don't belong here. I apologize. I'm not cruel. But this has to stop, and it has to stop from the justice organizations, the communist organizations like the Denver Commies, and the religious groups who are promoting the wrong part of this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gammy, thank you. And thank you for all of the writing that you're doing as well. I really appreciate it. And Gammy, she puts it all on the line as well. She's leaving a legacy because she cares so much. She did bring up an interesting point. And Kurt, I was going to mention this on a headline. Right now, there is many of the news stories, there's a family story. The parents looks like a lovely family. They've been here for 35 years. Apparently they were recently deported and they're seeing family pictures. You've seen pictures of the couple hugging each other and says family or parents here 35 years deported. I'm saying if you're here for 35 years, why didn't you go to work to make yourself legal? I don't understand that.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's an interesting question. I'm sure they would want to. I'm not sure there's a path for it.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know, but it doesn't seem to me like they should be able to jump the line. I have a number of friends that are paying big bucks trying to become citizens, but we didn't want this to be a – we'll do that maybe next time.
SPEAKER 12 :
We'll do immigration next time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so we – gosh, we only have a minute left.
SPEAKER 12 :
So legacy, give us your – My favorite question to ask when I get on stage – hand me the mic and I'm going to say – What do you want people to say at your funeral? I actually got a better version of that recently. What do you hope people will say about you at your 80th birthday party? Okay. What's your answer? I'll go while you think. For me, it's like I just want to have lived the fullest life that I could. I helped people feel free from their own inhibitions and anxieties because I was free from mine. And I helped others live their fullest life by doing it myself.
SPEAKER 06 :
Can I keep that as a homework assignment on what I want to have set at my 80th birthday?
SPEAKER 12 :
I'll come back in May or April.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, April is right around the corner. I do currently think 85 is middle age, just so you know.
SPEAKER 12 :
So I'm going to move that 80 to 120.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, that sounds good. Hey, Kurt Gerwitz, it's always a great discussion. It goes way too quickly.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we do. You know, we should invite your audience to our lunches.
SPEAKER 06 :
We should. We're going to have to do that. We should just bring the mics. Bring the mics to lunch. That's a great idea. So we've got something really big that I think is going to roll out at the end of April. So stay tuned on that. But our quote for the end of the show is James Madison. And he said this. It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers, but to guard one part of society against the injustice of the other part. That's why I think that House Bill 1211 is really important for you to weigh in over there on cutting gauge. So my friends today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, John, thanks so much for having me on tonight.
SPEAKER 17 :
I appreciate it very much. All right, let's talk about Donald Trump, the administration freezing federal family planning grants worth about $120 million.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, let's talk about that because, okay, before we really dive into it, I want to lay some context for people who, John, you and I both know, barely make it past the headlines, right? Okay. So first and foremost, we have to remember that around 75 million people went to the polls last November and voted for a new direction in this country. President Trump campaigned on two very important things. One, reducing wasteful spending within our federal government and getting rid of DEI programs at the federal level. So this move is really in a direct response to that. So this doesn't have anything to do with President Trump going out there and trying to eliminate abortion. That's not what's happening here for the people that that is extremely important to. But what this is what this is doing is the Health and Human Services has a responsibility to take a look at any organization that is receiving federal grants. They have to make sure that they are in compliance with the executive orders that President Trump signed recently, and that being diversity, equity, inclusion. So they're planning on freezing these funds until they have a chance to look and see if any of those funds are being allocated in a way or in a manner that actually goes against that executive order. So, you know, for me, I look at this and I say Planned Parenthood has operated in a way, I think, that... says that they're above the law. For so long, they have been piggybacking off of taxpayer dollars, providing services that more than 50% of the American taxpaying population doesn't want their taxpayer dollars going to in the first place. So I think in a roundabout way, it probably could be considered a win for a lot of people, even though they're using the backdoor tactics of going after DEI. I think people that are pro-life are looking at this as a potential win.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Now, when you talk about these particular organizations, do you have any you can name out that are receiving these funds?
SPEAKER 12 :
You mean the grants in general?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, who's actually getting the money is my point.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I mean, you have to look at it very broadly. So this isn't just affecting Planned Parenthood. You've got schools that are being threatened right now, like colleges, universities, schools. places that are receiving grants for quote-unquote research projects. I mean, I think the biggest one that comes to mind right now is schools. So schools that are continuing to teach gender ideology, that are continuing to include DEI or critical race theory within their curriculum, like those type of programs are going to be looked at as if they're going to continue receiving federal funding or not.
SPEAKER 17 :
In other words, and that's where I was going with that, is it's not just the big name Planned Parenthood. There's a lot of different organizations that could be receiving our tax dollars is my point.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. You're exactly right. Like they're they're not. Yeah. And I think that's a lot of people are up in arms because they think, oh, my gosh, you know, President Trump is stopping the funding just for this. No, he's not. They're literally going in and looking at all of these institutions that are receiving these federal grants. He is not playing around when he says that he does not want DEI receiving money at the federal level. And so, yeah, they're taking a look at all the contracts and they're going to... As they should, but really quick, Amy. As they should.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, not to interrupt, but as they should. I mean, realistically, this should have been stuff going on all along. It's gotten so out of hand that now that we're starting to really... How should I say this, Amy? It's like, I guess my picture in my mind would be, this is that runaway stagecoach where all of a sudden the stagecoach operator dropped the reins. They're now down running on the dirt. You watch the movies where he's now climbing on the horses trying to get the reins back. And literally, that's exactly what's happening right now.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's a beautiful picture because you're exactly right. That is what's happening. I was thinking on a more personal level to that. When I got married young, we had to put a budget in place so that our spending habits wouldn't get out of control. So what did we do? We had to look at the things that had to go. Those programs that weren't aligning with our goals. President Trump has a goal. and a mission for this country and it's going to hurt a little bit i remember when i had to get back on track yep get my spending under control it always hurts it always hurts a little bit but at the end of the day when we got a line and we got that spinning under control we got on budget we were able to achieve those goals. And I mean, he obviously has a much larger challenge out for him right now. But this is like, to me, the easiest place to start.
SPEAKER 17 :
But it's always, you know, on the same token, Amy, whether it's the federal government, we're talking trillions, or it's a home budget. I mean, the reality is, and I've explained it numerous times, your point, well taken, that family budget is... Yeah. Yeah. We're thirty six and a half trillion dollars in debt. The reality is it's going to be a little while before we actually feel some of that pain subside. But we got to start someplace.
SPEAKER 12 :
We do. And I mean, if you really look at it, he's got four years. He's got four years to make as impactful decisions. of cuts as he can possibly make. And I think this is a really great place to start because at the same time, every time he makes a cut like this and he blames on their DEI program, it is another way that it's opening people's eyes to what has truly been going on in this country over the last several years.
SPEAKER 17 :
You are exactly right. By the way, good analogy on your side of the fence as well when it comes to just a family budget and how that works. And the reality is if families don't get their budget, and by the way, Amy, some don't. Some families never figure this out. They go through that bankruptcy cycle. you know, every five to whatever years it happens to be, you know, how quickly you can actually go back into it again, which, no offense, that's probably another thing that needs to be revamped and quit doing that. But the reality is some learn, some do really well, some come out of it stronger than they went into it. And unfortunately, Amy, some never learn. And I'm afraid that we've got a political party right now that really doesn't care and they've never learned how this works.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, they haven't, but also if you look at what Doge is uncovering, we're starting to see why they have not been so keen on wanting to rein in their spending because we understand that they're getting a lot of their slush funds They're getting a lot of their special interest programs funded, things that we should never have been spending our taxpayer dollars on in the first place. And it just goes to show how deep this problem really has become and why. And I honestly think it's on both sides, why there are people on the Republican side and the Democrat side that don't want to rein this in because they don't want their pockets, their little piggy banks to get cut off.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. Yep. No, Amy, well said. I think you're 100 percent correct. There are people on both sides of the aisle. Spending can be a problem, by the way, on either side. That is not a political thing. Yes, I realize one party, I think, spends way more than the other because their goal is to ruin the country through their Marxist ideology. And spending, by the way, is one of those, although that disease spreads both ways.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely, because you think about the Republicans having the opportunity to cut the government. Like, they don't have to keep letting us raise the debt ceiling. Every single time there's a budget meeting that comes up, there's a vote on the budget. They don't have to keep allowing everybody to keep increasing their spending, but they do. So I think a lot of them are as much a part of the problem, unfortunately. And until they get a handle on this—so this is why President Trump is having to crack down so hard where he can— And what is within his executive power to do, because he knows he knows the game and he knows that we've never seen even the Republican side when they're in party and power cut back on that budget and not spending themselves.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's right. Amy, how do folks find you and talk about Parler for a moment as well?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely. So you guys can go and follow my show. It's called The Amy Robbins Show. All you have to do is go download Play TV. It's a brand new free speech, long video format platform. You can get it in the App Store. You can follow me on Instagram at The Amy Robbins or The Amy Robbins Show and follow along with all the wonderful things that we are doing over at Play TV and at Parler as well.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome. Amy, I appreciate it very much. You guys keep doing the great work you're doing. I thank you very much.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thanks for having me on. Have a good one.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right. To dovetail into what we were just talking about with Amy a moment ago on some of the things that, you know, Trump and the administration is trying to do. We talked about that with HHS and the revamping of things under Robert Kennedy Jr. We did that in the first hour with Dr. Kelly. My son just sent me this tweet that went out or this X that went out. UK's PM Starmer opens the door to trade wars with Trump over tariffs. Starmer has suggested that the U.K. could retaliate against any tariffs imposed by Trump. The prime minister said all options are on the table as officials continue intensive talks with the White House in an attempt to avoid the car tariffs of up to $25 billion. Such tariffs would risk crippling the British economy and would mean Rachel Reeves might have to launch a new tax raid in October. In other words... They're screwed. Now, he can be mad all he wants. In fact, all of these countries, I've said it over and over again. I'll keep saying it. All of these countries can be mad. Ask me if I care. I don't care. I don't care. And I've already gotten in trouble for, I guess, being hard on Canada. So I'll have to I don't care down here. I can do whatever I want to. I have to be careful on the podcast because we have all sorts of Canadian listeners. And yes, some of you Canadian listeners I know listen to me here. And, you know, I love y'all. This isn't personal. This isn't because I don't like folks from Germany or the UK or any other place around the world. No, no, no. This is just I love my country. And we've been getting screwed by a lot of you for far too long. And yes, I mean that sincerely. For example, German cars that come into the U.S., they have been tariffed in the past at about 2.5% is all. Yet our cars that go to Germany are tariffed at 10%. So tell me how that's fair. Two and a half to 10 seems like a pretty good spread there to me. Those of you that are mathematicians could do the math and figure out what that is. Why isn't it equal? And I think that's Donald Trump's point. Why isn't it equal? So, you know what, to make them equal, here's what he's going to do. You're 25% now. Until you guys can figure out how to make this equal, and by the way, Germany's already talking about going down to that same two and a half percent to avoid this 25% tariff. Why does it take, though, that threat... of the 25% to get you guys to play ball. And I think that's Donald Trump's point, by the way. What are you guys doing? And I know a lot of people think, well, this is just going to really hurt the American public, and we're all going to pay for it at the end of the day, and tariffs just a tax. Well, is it? And yeah, I get it. I know. I have said numerous times that all costs, all costs, that are bore by a company will eventually get passed down to the end user. I get that. But what happens in this particular case is maybe somebody that would have been shopping for an Audi that's coming from Germany will go and buy something else instead. They'll go buy an American vehicle instead. And a lot of people say, whoa, they're not the same quality. Yeah, BS. Yeah, they are, actually. Sorry, I talk about that on Drive Radio all the time. All those cars that are coming now from all over the world, they don't even make their own cars anymore. No one does. I talk about that constantly on the Saturday show. You can tune in for that if you want a better explanation. But the reality is no one makes their own car. They do what they call an RFP, a request for proposal, from all the different vendors out there that make, for example, a starter or an alternator or a seat. And they get bids, if you would, on, yeah, we can make that part for this. We'll supply that fuel injection for that. We'll do this wiring harness for X. And so all these companies, all of them, all of them, The only exception to this, by the way, is Tesla. Tesla makes the majority of its components here in the U.S. and even does its own stuff. For example, makes its own seats, which no one else does. And I'm not exaggerating in what I just said. If you don't believe me, go verify that. Go check it if you don't believe me. Nobody else building cars makes their own seats. I mean, maybe a Rolls Royce or somebody like that or a Ferrari might actually make their own stuff. But every common car made that most people are looking at buying, no, they don't make their own seats. They don't make their own alternators. They don't make their own wiring harnesses. They don't make their own glass. They don't make their own steering wheel. You get the drift. So people that come out and say, well, yeah, Audi's a much better car. Yeah, BS. No, it's not. No, it's not. Well, it lasts longer. No, it doesn't. Well, it's just a much better made vehicle. No, it isn't. In fact, right now, Germany is really struggling because of the various things I'm talking about right now. They put all of their eggs in one basket called the auto manufacturing basket, and the reality is because it's not doing as well as it once was, they're struggling. Their economy is struggling. If you don't believe me, go look it up. Go read for it yourself. You're, by the way, talking to a car expert. So those of you that might not believe what I'm saying, go check me. Go tell me I'm wrong. I'm not. So, yeah, what I'm going to tell the UK and Germany and others when it comes to these tariffs, especially on cars, you want to play ball, go for it. Have fun. Because here's the other reality. Does somebody really have to buy a new car? No. No. They don't. They can get by with driving what they're driving right now. There's plenty of repair shops and plenty of ability out there for a person to keep driving what they own for a very, very, very long time. And buying a new car, unless you're a fleet or a business or something along those lines, is not a necessity. It's not. Now, one thing that's not been talked about, by the way, in the automotive world, and I'm surprised it hasn't been, I was going to get to this at some point, but I might as well cover it now. One thing I'm surprised hasn't been talked about is the amount of cars that may not be purchased in the future by government entities, especially federal government, because of what Doge is doing. It'll be interesting to see if they actually start paying attention to that and realize that, wait a minute, we may not actually sell the amount of cars down the road that we have in the past because the feds may not be buying as much of them as they once were. Tom, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is Tom. Am I talking to John?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, it is. Go ahead, Tom.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, well, thank you very much. I had no idea that I was calling on to the radio. That's all right. Go ahead. I've heard you in the past, and I love you, and I trust you, and I've never met you. But anyway, I live in Louisville, Colorado. Okay. And I bought a 93 Chevy pickup truck Silverado 20 years ago from the first owner who owned a parts store.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I have driven it for 20 years, and it's never had – I don't think it's had any problem with emissions tests. Okay. And I love my mechanic, who I've been going to for 10 years, let's say. And they just, there was something wrong with the, it was missing on a few. And they couldn't find out what it was. So my buddy said, we can change the plugs, the wires, the rotor, and the cap. We did that, and it didn't fix it. Then I brought it back to my mechanic, and they ran another test or whatever, and they They said they had an educated guest, which I didn't really like, but they were honest. And they replaced the ignition control module, and it did appear to fix it. Okay. And it's running, like, very good. Okay. And ironically, that was at 3 o'clock yesterday, and I went, I said, okay, thanks. hurry up, I've got to get out of here and go get emissions. I went to the emissions place, and it failed the NOx.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so too much NOx coming out of it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Okay. So then they said, and my mechanic's great, so I'm not even going to tell you who it is, because I'm not putting them down.
SPEAKER 17 :
Sure, sure, sure, understand.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, not a problem. And I had a full tank of gas, not knowing. And they said, no, go in there with a half a tank of gas or less, and tried to put the seafoam in there. So yesterday afternoon, I drove clear to Fort Collins and back, and then this morning, that was after I put the seafoam in, and then this morning, I drove up to Central City and back, and then went right back to Broomfield and did another test, and it failed all the time.
SPEAKER 17 :
all the uh things and so so what are you you in my in my opinion i have to see exactly the sheet that you've gotten if you if you sent me that via email i could help you with this tom directly but my gut feeling is you've got a a catalyst efficiency issue going on if the vehicle is running well it's smooth you don't have an engine miss or anything along those lines what you're telling me And not to say the other technician was wrong, but seafoam will sometimes clean some things up, but with what you're talking about, highly doubtful it will in half a tank of gas or a full tank of gas or a quarter tank of gas isn't going to make any difference on that. I'm guessing you have a catalyst efficiency issue. Okay. Meaning the catalytic converter is not working as well as it should.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Nope, I'm losing you, Tom.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm driving. Okay, there you go. Now you're back.
SPEAKER 17 :
Go ahead. I got you back. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is this something that you guys work on?
SPEAKER 17 :
No. Personally, I have a fleet operation, and I don't do any work whatsoever individually speaking. I've got shops, though, that are our sponsors and even some that are sponsors of this program during the week that can definitely help you. In Louisville, you've got two close facilities. You can either go over to Broomfield to Accountable Automotive and talk to Mark and the guys over there, or you can run to Boulder and talk to the guys at Legacy Automotive. You're about halfway between the two. You're probably closer to Ridgeline than going to Boulder, actually.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it doesn't matter to me. And Broomfield is where I was getting the emissions at.
SPEAKER 17 :
And Mark, by the way, is just down the street from the emissions center. He's literally in the same industrial area.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, well, then that's where I'd like to go.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, go talk to Mark at Accountable Auto. And you can look him up not on this website for this show, but drive-radio.com. Mark is listed there. It's Accountable Automotive.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Mark at Accountable Automotive.com.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you a million. You bet, Tom. No, thank you. No, appreciate it. Talk to Mark.
SPEAKER 17 :
Tell him I sent you. Okay. All right, man. Appreciate you very much. John and Cheyenne, hang tight. I'll come right back to you as well. Golden Eagle Financial is coming up next. Al Smith would love to help you with your future finances, getting to retirement, staying to retirement, making sure you've got a plan for retirement. Talk to Al today. Go to klzradio.com. Sorry, technical difficulties on our screen. So I'll tell you what, let's do this. We'll come back to Golden Eagle in a moment. John, let's take you next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, John. So you're talking about the difference between American and European, Japanese, you know, whatever cars.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is there really a difference anymore? I don't think so.
SPEAKER 17 :
And really quick, John, I know that I'm going to get all sorts of hate email on that because some are going to say, oh, I've been driving this vehicle for this many miles and, you know, you're full of crap and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm going to get all of the hate mail on that, John, because people are going to say, well, you know, Toyota's better and this is better and that's better and blah, blah, blah. John, it really comes down to, I believe to this day, it comes down to how well are you taking care of the vehicle? Who's driving the vehicle? Yes, there are some vehicles that are better than others. That's a whole other conversation I could probably get to on a Saturday. But really, John, at the end of the day, no. Go buy what fits you the best and what you like.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, what you need. I mean, there are people who I know a guy. I knew a guy. He bought five Raptors in a row. He traded it in every other year for the newest version.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just because that's what he wanted to do.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good for him. He kept them garaged. And he only drove them in the summertime, so he would trade them in with like 15,000 miles on it. I was like, you're losing money when you do that. Oh, I just want the new one.
SPEAKER 17 :
Evidently, he has enough to spend. It doesn't matter, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he didn't. He got really sick during the Gulf War, and he knew his time was numbered. He has since passed, but he was at the point where he didn't care. He was going to drive the nicest truck he could. But anybody, I mean, look at me and my wife. Both of our trucks are over 150,000 miles. There's nothing wrong with them at all. I would loan my red truck with 236 out to anybody. Say just, you know, here you go. You need to use it, whatever. There's nothing wrong with it because they take care of it. Does it drive the same as it did when it had 5,000 miles on it? No, because it's an older vehicle. But for people that say, well, you can't get 200,000 miles out of a Ram or out of a F-150, you're crazy.
SPEAKER 17 :
All day long you can, actually.
SPEAKER 08 :
All day long. I mean, all you have to do, whether it's a Toyota, whether it's a Lexus. I mean, Toyota Lexus, they're made by the same company, so to speak.
SPEAKER 17 :
They are. No, it is the same company. It is the same.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, I always laugh because every now and then I'll see a Lexus that looks almost exactly the same as my 4Runner. And I'm like, that's built on a 4Runner frame.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I'm sure there's one. Because you remember back in the late 70s when the Cutlass, the Monte Carlo, the Grand Prix, and the Regal were. They looked exactly alike except for, you know, basic differences. Correct. But when I was in Germany the last time on vacation, they rented us an Audi. And the thing, yes, the beautiful car, it drove beautiful. Was it worth? I looked up the price of it when we got back. It was not worth what they were asking for it in the U.S.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But, you know, there's a great, I can't remember the name of it, but one of the old Tom Clancy books with Jack Ryan, the originals. Okay. He wrote about this exact tariff thing where the U.S. was imposing the tariff equal to what the other countries were doing. And this was like 30 years ago when he wrote that book. And all I look at it from the tariff side is what's fair.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is it fair? You know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and by the way, I think that's exactly what the current administration is trying to get people to understand is, no, it's not fair. And somebody just texted me and said that that actually, if you really get into it and dig into it, Germany, actually, it's more like 20 percent. There's a 10 plus another 10. I didn't read that. That could very well be. I'm not going to argue that point because it could very well be the case. In fact, it might even be as high as 25 on Germany. you know, on U.S. imports into Germany. Reality, John, is it's not fair. We've been getting screwed all these years and needs fixed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. And there's a prime example. When I was stationed in Germany and I shipped the car over and they told me pretty much, if you're shipping it over, you're shipping it back. They won't let you sell it over there unless you sell it to another American.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Another military person.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, you know, they paid to ship it over and ship it back, so I shipped it back and had a car over there while I was, you know, while I was stationed there. Which, John, driving on an Autobahn with no speed limit is a lot of fun.
SPEAKER 17 :
I can imagine.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know the scary thing, though? I was in a Pontiac Firebird 87. I know it wasn't the greatest car, but I liked it at the time. And I was doing 130 miles an hour. I got past like I was standing still by a Mercedes. Wow. That's how fast those people drive over there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
And so, you know, like I was standing still. And what was funny, you could tell because if you saw a Porsche coming up behind you, you best better get out of his way because he was going. I swear I saw a Porsche probably doing about 160 go by. Wow. And that's, you know, but everybody over there drives fast. More attentive than we do. I'm not saying they're better drivers. I'm saying what they spend to learn to drive, because it cost them about five times what it cost us to go to, like, driver's ed.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And what they spend and what they cost. Insurance was expensive, too, over there. But what they spend, those people really paid attention to their driving. I don't know what it's like today, but I don't think they're talking on, you know, got cell phone help for their air.
SPEAKER 17 :
Makes sense. Makes sense.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, man, I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Nope, thanks for adding that in. I appreciate that very much. Okay, now we'll give this one more whirl here. Golden Eagle Financial, again, Al Smith, yes, he would love to help you with your future financial plans and retirement and so on. Find him today at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Jeff and Golden, you're next. Go ahead, sir. Hello? Hey, Jeff.
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Hey, a question from you.
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Yeah.
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I've got an 02 Excursion. It's got 326,000 miles on it. Wouldn't trade it for anything. Awesome. 7.3 diesel. I've always been a Toyota guy, and I've actually only bought one new vehicle in my entire life.
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Which proves that you don't have to buy new cars to still have transportation.
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So I'm in a Toyota work truck right now with 150 on it, and... That's that. Second thing, what's your opinion on, I'm a car guy, but I'm not an expert like you. I love driving. I got a 13 911 S and a 17 Cayenne 4.8 twin turbo. What are your opinions on those things?
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Well, the 911, don't get rid of it. It's going to do nothing but continue to increase in value. Unfortunately, the Cayman won't be quite as valuable down the road as the 911 because it's not a 911. There's something about that 911 that just makes those things continue to go up and up and up in value. I saw some at Mekin Auto Auction this past weekend that literally just, it's like you just shake your head at the kind of money that those things continue to bring. So, yeah, if there's any car you're ever going to sell, make sure it's not the 911.
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And I'm sorry, maybe I misspoke. It was a Cayenne. Are you a fan of the big twin-turbo V8s?
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I don't think – well, two sides of that. Am I a fan of having it, driving it, and so on? Absolutely. Is it going to retain its value and do as well as what a 911 will down the road? No, they won't.
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No, they won't. Sure, sure. Thank you so much. All right, Jeff.
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No, great questions, by the way. Appreciate it. And good cars, by the way. Have fun with those, Jeff, and enjoy. And again, going back to just the whole hype that right now is coming out of all sorts of different things. I was watching last night, my son and I were going back and forth on some of what was happening with Toyota stock, which was suspended, trading was, for a while last night because of the big dip that it took. And And by the way, I don't know why. I think because, frankly, sometimes Wall Street and traders are just absolute knuckleheads. I mean, I don't know why they think that that's going. I mean, yes, tariffs are going to have an impact on a lot of different companies. And I'll run through really quick because there is a listing that came out. this morning on what companies make how much of their American sold vehicles, how many of those are actually made in the U.S. In other words, the share of U.S. sold vehicles that are made in the U.S. So Tesla, of course, 100% because they make everything here. Rivian, same thing. They make everything here. Ford, 78% of what they sell is made here. Honda, 64% of what they make is actually sold here. Stellantis, which is... Fiat, Chrysler, Ram, Dodge, you get the drift. 57%, so actually they're below Honda. Subaru, 56% of what they make or what they sell is made here. Nissan is at 53%. GM, which you would think would be upwards of where Ford is, but the company itself is run by a bunch of knuckleheads. I'm sorry. I don't know what to say. And I've been a GM guy most of my life, grew up with them, still have a fondness for them, I guess because it's in my blood. It's what I grew up with. But those knuckleheads, because of what they don't know what to do in running a company, 52%. And yes, that is one of the two American car companies, Ford and GM. Ford, by the way, 78%. GM, 52%. BMW is 48%, which is the same as Toyota, which is 48%. Mercedes, and again, these guys have plants and things here where they're making vehicles here, 43%. Hyundai, 33%. Volkswagen, 21%. They're really going to get killed, by the way, on some of these tariffs and such. Mazda, 19%, and Volvo only 13%. So, yeah, tariffs are going to affect some of these individual companies. And trading, again, with Toyota stock late last night was suspended for a while because, I guess, because of just the fears of what the tariffs are going to do to them and their stock value and so on. And, again, how will some of this stuff get – you know get shaken out as time goes by don't know don't know i do know this when i was reading earlier about what the you know what the you know not only the eu but in this particular case what the uk which i always have to make sure that i specify this because remember the uk is not just england It's all of the greater area. The UK, I believe, don't quote me on this because I'm not an expert on geography in the UK, but I believe, Charlie, the UK is Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, and there's one other country I want to throw into there that all make up the UK. This is the prime minister of the U.K. talking about the trade war itself and acting like he's going to puff his chest out and get all excited, I guess. And I guess he feels like he can put some sort of a dent in what actually comes to the U.S. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. And again, I'm not speaking ill of anybody that lives in that area or is from that area. And if you're from that area, I'm not speaking ill. I'm just saying good luck. Good luck. The United States of America. This is something I think the rest of the world sometimes forgets. And by the way, it's something the left forgets on an ongoing basis. The United States of America, we have close to $30 trillion GDP, gross domestic product. What we consume in the U.S. is roughly $30 trillion. And I'm doing this from memory, so if you want to go look this up and see how close I am, be my guest. The next closest country, of course, is China, and they're in the low 20s. Still not close to where we are. And then from there, it really takes a jump down, and you could even combine a bunch of countries, and it still doesn't equal what the U.S. does. Not exaggerating, by the way. You can go look. This is public information. Any of you that are out there listening, you that are on the right, the left, the middle, whatever, you can go check my numbers. We are so far ahead. of any other country, that when these other countries start running around and acting like they're going to have some sort of a big dent in what we do, you know, Canadians, you know, you guys as well, you think you're going to have some sort of a dent in what we do? I mean, people forget that Canada is a country of 35 million people, roughly. 35 million. We're 350 million-ish. A little low, a little high, whatever. We're right in that area. We're right in about that $350 million. So Canada's 10% of us. That's it.
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10%.
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With, by the way, the lion's share of Canadians living in the area where Canada dips down into the U.S. When I say dips down, I know it's still Canada. But people forget that there's actually more Canadians... that live in that section of land across the upper part of the U.S. If you go look at a map and you look at what I'm talking about, keep in mind that there's only a few big cities in the U.S. that are above that line. Detroit, Seattle, probably Boston. I mean, there's a few larger cities that are above that line, but reality is there's more Canadians living below that area than U.S. citizens. Not in Canada. In other words, Canadian citizens below that geographical line, there's more of them than there is us, than there is U.S. citizens. And that's just because of the way Canada dips down and there's a lot of people living in that Toronto area and so on, above Buffalo, above Michigan and so on. Point being, Canada acts like there's some sort of a world leader when it comes to production and things along those lines. And they act like they can have some sort of a big dent in what we do here in America. And yeah, no offense. It's like a mosquito. I'm sorry to say it that way, but it is. In fact, outside of China, there's not another country that even comes close to consuming and or producing what we do. Not even close. And what Donald Trump is trying to do, I believe, in the White House right now is get us on a more even keel and even get us back on track manufacturing wise and so on. So that there's incentive even for other other countries, other companies that are in other countries to actually build and do things here versus having those things imported like we're currently doing. It's why companies like Hyundai have agreed to, you know, have said, not agree, but have said, we're going to spend $25 billion and invest building cars in the U.S. We want to build a million cars in the U.S. Now, that's forward thinking and they're being very smart in what they're thinking about. We as a country consume more than anyone else. Why would you not want to be here and do that and avoid all the tariffs and shipping costs and on and on and on we go? Why would you not just want to compete here on this level playing field here in America? And what Donald Trump is doing is going to make more of that happen. It's why we see chip companies agreeing to spend billions of dollars here. It's why the UAE, which I talked about yesterday, is going to spend $1.4 trillion. And remember, folks, and I talked about this on the podcast. Some of you may have heard that last night. You'll hear it again Saturday morning if you want to listen then. But the reality is these are not things – this is where the left, by the way, doesn't understand or doesn't want to admit – These are decade-long, or decades, plural, long investments from other countries, other companies in other countries, when they talk about that type of an investment. I mean, if you think, for example, even going on the small side with Hyundai at $25 billion, if you think Hyundai's going to just do that and then another administration comes in in the next three and a half years... four years, whatever it is, if you think that because a new administration comes in in four years, all of a sudden Hyundai is going to pack up and go someplace else, that's not how that works. These companies are building for their own future, and they're going to be here to stay, and it doesn't matter who is in charge at that point in time. They're going to continue to stay here and keep doing business. Same thing with the chip companies, same thing with other car companies that would decide to build here, and so on. So is what Donald Trump doing, is what he is doing, is it going to make a big difference in our overall economy as time goes by? Absolutely. This is a pivotal time for us as Americans. And if we keep at it, we will continue to benefit from these things moving forward. Absolutely. So anyways. We'll see how all this pans out, trust me, as time goes by. Paul Leuenberger, speaking of cars and all of the things involved with that, insurance becomes a big deal for a lot of you listening, for all of us, by the way. Give my good friend Paul a call. He'll walk you through all the insurance end of things. 303-662-0789.
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All right. Not that many of you probably travel to France, but if some of you listening are or you know someone that is or have a family member that is, France has updated its travel advice for U.S. citizens. And what it means is that it is warning travelers that you are now required to declare your gender assignment at birth when completing visa or ESTA applications. The move follows growing international concern over a decree signed by President Trump on January the 20th. Yeah, because Trump said there's two genders, male and female. And in a lot of ID situations, you're going to have to put down what you were assigned at birth, which, in other words, what were you when you were born? Jeez, how hard is this? Are you male or are you female? Were you born with an innie or an outie? How difficult is this, folks? It's not hard. Sorry, this is really easy. You guys on the left want to make this really hard, and it's not. So go back to the way things were. Make it simple once again. Any Audis, it's easy. Move on from there, and off we go. All right, Hour 3 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, welcome. Thursday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Of course, Dr. Kelly Victory joining us today. I'll start with her. Dr. Kelly, welcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, how are you doing? I'm happy to be back. Lots going on. Lots going on on the health care side in Washington.
SPEAKER 09 :
Always. We'll get to that here in a moment. I'll welcome Steve next. Steve, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I'm trying to recover from the flu, but I'm getting there, and I'm capable for the show today, so I'm fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I appreciate you very much. And for those of you listening, maybe for the first time, you can go check out all of what we've done with Dr. Kelly, her credentials, the things we've talked about literally for the past five years. Go to RushToReason.com. But speaking of all of that, Dr. Kelly, yes, lots of things going on, lots of even— How should I say this? Things in the news of late as to what, you know, the COVID itself, the vaccines and what they're still finding on them and so on. We'll get into some of that today. But on the health care front, speaking of the government end of things, give us an update.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I think the biggest thing that happened certainly so far in this administration is the announcement today that HHS is making fundamental transformations of the agencies themselves. You, Steve, and I just talked about this a week or so ago with regard to how many different agencies fall under HHS. And we were certain that there was redundancy in many of those things, everything from human resources to, you know, all the different administrative components that And it looks like that has been recognized. They're doing a huge restructuring. It will end up decreasing the number of full-time employees at HHS and their different agencies from around 82,000 to 62,000. So a decrease of 20,000 employees. It's predicted to save the taxpayers nearly $2 billion a year through the reduction in redundancy there. And they're really going to focus on the things they should be focusing on to end this epidemic of chronic disease. And those things are clean water, wholesome nutrition, and eliminating environmental toxins. rather than things like creating transgender mice and spending money on things that are not delivering tangible results to the American people.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, too, the one thing that never really gets talked about as well, and you being on the admin side, I mean, Dr. Kelly can talk to this as well, but you're on the admin side, and you cut these people, and yes, there's a savings of the payroll itself, but there's always all of the other ancillary things that it takes to have an employee working, and I'm not just talking the tax burden and FICA tax and all that kind of stuff. I'm talking literally what it takes to actually house and have that person around and the things needed to keep that employee around, it adds up over time, right? Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, you first start with the concept that about 30% of their salary is how much it costs us extra to provide benefits. And the government benefits are better than most. It's probably a little bit higher than that. You do have all the office time, you have expenses, you have everything else that goes with that. But here's the other problem. I mean, if you even look at the state of Colorado, I mean, I worked inside the Medicaid organization and, It took years, several years, if not four or five years, to replace an IT system inside the state office on Medicaid, which in and of itself would have reduced the need for some labor, would have made things more efficient, better customer service. The problem in Washington, D.C. right now is the IT structures there. We've seen people say that the IRS, that all these other things are six years away from state of the art. And they've said that every year for the last 25 years. So all of these people, many of the redundancies are probably, John, because they just have really lousy systems that they haven't fixed and they just overcome them with people.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dr. Kelly, you're on the receiving end of that as a doctor, and you know how a lot of this works in regards to the forms that have to be filed and the things that have to be done billing-wise and so on. And I've heard personally from doctors like you that I have known that in some cases they just, well, Dr. Scott, for example, is one of those. They just get out of it. No more insurance, no more messing around with all that nonsense. I'll concentrate on patient care and get rid of all of this red tape that literally is out there. It's far too much. Will we ever see an end to some of that?
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I think we will, and I think this is on the right path. It remains to be seen what will happen at CMS, Center for Medicare and Medicaid, that's going to be run by Mehmet Oz. But they need to eliminate so much of the red tape involved in that and in the insurance industry. For every single physician on the front lines, there are five or six people in the back office just trying to manage the insurance and get paid for Trying to get in network with an insurer is very, very difficult. It's an owner's task. And these are all activities that do nothing to improve the health or wellness of any of your patients. It's a bunch of paperwork and paper pushing that takes up insane amounts of time and does nothing, which is why we end up where we are right now with the fattest, most sedentary, you know, You know, highest rates of diabetes, obesity, hypertension, kidney disease. It's really a pathetic state of affairs. And it's because we've been wasting our time, money and resources on paperwork rather than taking care of patients.
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Steve, when it comes to some of the IT end of things, which you're very familiar with as well, I think one of the things for me personally that I get frustrated over is just the simple fact that we've got private sector companies that do really well at developing the things that we need governmentally speaking that would streamline A lot of things. And I have to believe that either one of two things has happened over the years. It's either one of those things where nobody wants change and or the amount of government red tape it takes to go through some of those changes. Most don't want to do or those quotes get, you know, those those bids get so overinflated because of what I just said that at the end of the day, they just keep doing what they do year after year after year. And to your point, now, some 25 years later, this updated system we were supposed to have, we still don't.
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Well, yeah. In fact, almost every large corporation that works in the tech space or even in the food service space, anything that supplies stuff that the government would consume will have a commercial division and they'll have a government piece. And so you just think about that. So why do you need a separate group of people just to work with the government? And the answer is because systems are archaic, processes and regulations are overdone. It takes way too much time. So you literally dedicate individual people. It would be like you having an auto mechanic business, and you had one or two guys who would do nothing but service government vehicles because the regulation to do the service was so much more intense than in a good commercial practice. Coupled with that, the combination of systems that we do have, We test, we looked at doctors' schedules over the last year. A doctor will be off six days a month in some cases, and in that six days, they log on to the EHR and do charting and other things virtually every day. You rarely ever find one person, one doctor, who takes one full day off in a month on a regular 12-month basis. They're always working, so that's why they're burnt out.
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And that's why, Dr. Kelly, we have a lot of doctors that have switched over to either a concierge practice or they go specialize in what people can criticize. They go to plastic surgery or they go do other things that don't involve insurance where the customer is directly paying. And frankly, at the end of the day, are probably a lot happier and wealthier when it's all said and done and probably have happier patients.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, without question. Listen, my veterinarians got it figured out. They won't even look at your pet until you give them your credit card. Okay. And frankly, with medicine, it is amazing is no longer, you know, the something that people should go into if they think they're going to make, you know, a significant amount of income. The amount that you actually are able to recoup from the insurance companies, the reimbursements are very, very low. And once you have to be paying that five or six people in the back office in order to get it, it truly has impacted doctors' bottom line. So doctors are working more hours. They're working more than ever, getting paid less than ever. and their quality of life and job satisfaction is very low. At the same time, the experience for the patients is lousy because in order to make ends meet, doctors are scheduling their patients tighter and tighter. You have less and less time. It's very, very common for people to tell me when they go to see their doctor, their experience is, The doctor either never sits down or has his or her hand on the doorknob the entire time that they're talking to the patient. That's not a good optic. It doesn't make people feel that they're being listened to or being cared for. And frankly, it becomes just algorithmic protocol driven medicine rather than the doctor actually sitting down, taking time, listening to your individual concerns and crafting a care plan that is tailored to you and your specific health care issues.
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Almost in bear with me here, Dr. Kelly, because I don't know exactly what it was like in the real old days where you had traveling doctors with the black bag. They went from house to house and so on. Now, I did grow up in a time where we didn't have a lot of the insurance nonsense that we had today. you know, folks paid out of pocket for a lot of smaller things. You had a catastrophic plan and things like that. But it almost seems like everything you just said a moment ago, Dr. Kelly, that we're almost going back in time. And the way I want to explain that is, and I think I'm correct in this, Dr. Kelly, at one point in time, being a doctor wasn't really looked upon like we look upon doctors today. I was at a trivia thing last night, and one of the questions was, it was the bonus question, what's the most rewarding job out there? The answer was... Doctor, well, have we switched to where it's not that any longer because of what you just said, Dr. Kelly? And there was a time even here in the U.S. where being a doctor actually was frowned upon.
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Absolutely, and frankly, I think it is not the most rewarding thing at all, unfortunately, because of the amount of red tape. When I was growing up, we did have a pediatrician who made house calls. We went to see that doctor in the office for routine things, for which we paid cash, by the way. When the doctor made a house call, including on Christmas Day or whatever, it was a holiday, six brothers and sisters, somebody was always sick. I can absolutely recall my father either handing him cash or writing a check if he didn't have cash because that was what was expected. So our pediatrician didn't have to waste time filing insurance claims. We had insurance, and you had to have it in case, God forbid, you had a car accident or you fell off the roof and broke your arm and needed surgery, things like that. It's what we called major medical back in the day or catastrophic insurance coverage. Everything else... You know, the the antibiotics that you took for your strep throat or your routine immunizations or your well baby check got paid for in cash because that's how it's supposed to work. Insurance was never meant to cover routine things. I use the example all the time. Can you imagine what car insurance, you know, your industry, John, what car insurance would cost? If you expected your car insurance to cover filling up your car with gas and getting the tires rotated and the oil change, it would be astronomical.
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Absolutely. No, you're 100% correct. And again, Steve, I'm not trying to downplay current doctors by any means. I mean, I value all of them and appreciate what they do, but it almost seems like we're disincentivizing even new people to come into that field because of what Dr. Kelly just said.
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Yeah, so a couple of things. Number one, when I was growing up, If you were really sick and it was hard to see a doctor, you just went to Galilee and talked to Jesus directly about getting recovery. That was the only way it was back in those days. But in all truthfulness, one of the things I do remember, and certainly the demographics support this, the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, you know, the baby boomers were in the heart of their lives. We didn't have and I was born in 1960. We didn't have the same level of vaccines. We didn't have the same level of food problems. So and there wasn't this huge demographic that there is right now that is old. Right. I mean, that's essentially my age. Right. The baby boomers. I mean, the youngest baby boomers were born in 64 years. You know, that aging process has created this massive demand for health care, and the pharmaceutical companies have been more than happy to find drugs to deal with symptoms. And to go back to Kelly's vet example for a second, if you go to your vet and you know you're going to pay $500 because your dog's overweight and they need a hip replacement, When the vet tells you what you need to do for your dog, you do it because you don't want to pay $500 the next time you show up. That's right. So you're more incentivized by paying for the bill yourself.
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That's right.
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And you get better outcomes that way.
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No liberal media bias here. This is Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly, Victory, Steve House with us as well. All right, a few text messages that came in. I'll start with this one, Dr. Kelly. Somebody actually texted me yesterday and said, would I ask you this today? And that is kids going back to school, things along those lines. Some of that will happen in the fall, although some are getting things registered and getting things ready even for next fall. Now, some schools requiring certain vaccines that you as a parent may not agree with. What do you do in that particular situation?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I would absolutely encourage people to push back. I would ask for a you know, you can try to get a religious exemption. You can get a personal choice exemption. I believe that if you bide your time, many, if not all of the vaccine mandates are likely to go away under this new administration. There's tremendous impetus for them to do that. Robert Kennedy Jr. is certainly aware that this is on everybody's radar. It's something that I believe they are working on. President Trump has already signed an executive order to eliminate mandates in any country. state or federally funded universities. So I think it will happen. I would push back. I would use it as a personal exemption and say that your child can stay in school until such time as it gets litigated. And I would not give in to pressure. If you feel strongly about it, I would hold your ground. I think the issue is that we've got to push back. We've got to demand that we get some sort of relief from the government, and I think it is coming. So I would bide your time, I guess is what I'm saying, because I believe In the same way that I said this about the COVID shots themselves. People said, well, I have to take one because I can't travel. I can't do this. And I said, bide your time because the mandates will go away. And sure enough, they did. So those of us who stood our ground are looking pretty good right now. And I feel badly for the people who did not or felt that they could not stand their ground at the time. This will go away, I believe. And I think it's going to happen in this administration.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and Steve, you can chime in on that, too, if you would like. By the way, thank you, Dr. Kelly, for that, and I think that listener is probably listening. If not, I'll make sure that I text that back. Your thoughts on all that, Steve?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, first of all, state constitutions mandate that all children who live in the state are entitled to an education. Yes, there are rules that the states can make around education. But one of the challenges I would have is to say, look, it's absolutely my child's right to go to school. I'm not getting them vaccinated because I don't believe that it's healthy and proper for them to be vaccinated. And you are not allowed to control the health of my child. So that's one thing. Number two, if it is mandatory and that's the only way, I've got a form for you to sign that says if my child is vaccine injured, you will assume liability for his medical care. And, you know, those are really fighting words, but I've just gotten so sick of the idea that with all of the data regarding children and COVID vaccines, especially why they would still have that posture is beyond me. And frankly, somebody ought to hold them liable for it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Agreed. This one I want to slip in just because I think it's a little bit easier question maybe, Dr. Kelly, for you. What's better for sleep, melatonin or magnesium glycinate?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't think there's a better or worse. I think people need to pick the one that works for them. For some people, melatonin does a brilliant job. For others, it's magnesium. Not me. It's a combination of the two. Yeah, not me.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, for some odd reason, that stuff keeps me up, and I do not know why. I can't answer why, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 11 :
And as I said, you have to figure out what's best for you. I'm the same way with Benadryl. Benadryl is the active ingredient in over-the-counter sleep aids like Sominex. I take a Benadryl when I'm climbing off the walls. So it's the worst possible thing for me. So it's a very independent. There's not one that's better or worse. I think both of them are reasonable things to try, meaning magnesium and melatonin are both reasonable things to try. The best thing you can do, frankly, I hate to say. is to put down your blue screens, put down the phone, put down the iPad, turn off the TV some hours before you actually want to go to sleep when most people do exactly the opposite. Most people are on their iPad in bed those screens emit blue light, and that blue light turns off the portion of your brain that normally naturally produces melatonin. Melatonin is something we all have in our bodies, but we aren't producing enough of it in some part because of the amount of time we spend in front of screens that emit blue light. So I think the best thing you can do is get into some better sleep habits, including turning off your screen some hours before you want to go to bed, and obviously then, you know, things like avoiding caffeine or those sorts of things for a number of hours.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Next one, and there's some video going around. I got this text earlier. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I recommend a simple solution. It's called Jack Daniels. You do that, and it will help you sleep. There you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, there's that too.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. On a more serious note, I've been studying some of the testing that came through MKUltra and some of these other things that were done by the CIA. And one of the things that they talked about was that they used blue screens to actually try to influence people's minds on issues, right? So not only is it turning off the melatonin, but I think sometimes it's talking to you. I think they're trying to message you. And that makes it even worse. I couldn't echo Kelly's stuff more. You need to shut it down. Read an actual book. Yeah. Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you might be better off. All right. Video going around. I think I sent this to both of you as well. We'll talk about this. I want to spend a little more time here because there's I still think a lot of how should I say this? There's just a lot of stuff out there. I don't I don't want to say it's good, bad or otherwise. There's just a lot of stuff out there when it comes to MRNA and even the repercussions of COVID itself. And there's some folks out there now basically claiming that. You know, there are ways to get rid of the shot in your body. They can last anywhere from two to three years. And there are things you can do to actually, quote, unquote, flush your system of the mRNA. And Dr. Kelly, as I was watching some of that earlier today, I thought, well, that's not what I have heard you say. Unless something has changed here of late, I thought once that mRNA is in you, it's in you.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is, and certainly I am unaware at this juncture of any way to eliminate the mRNA. There are absolutely ways to decrease the toxic component, which is the spike protein. To be clear, the mRNA gives the roadmap or the instruction manual, if you will, for your cells to start producing the spike proteins. And that we know is the toxic portion of the virus is that spike protein itself. There are numbers of things that we know that will decrease the concentration of spike protein, and that includes some enzymes like natokinase and bromelain. I am unaware at this point, unfortunately, of how to rid yourself of the mRNA, so I'd love to hear what these folks are thinking. And maybe that is really the brass ring. What we need to come up with is a way to eliminate the mRNA or to turn it off at a minimum, even if you don't eliminate, to tell it to stop sending the messages to your cells to produce these toxic proteins. As at this point, you know, we are now 709 days was the longest study that shows that people who are vaccinated are continuing to produce new spike proteins two years after they were last injected. That's very scary.
SPEAKER 09 :
And at the same time, Steve, promoting that you keep getting re-injected. So we've still got that going on all the way down into infants, by the way, which we didn't get a chance to talk about much last week. Steve, this is just craziness.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know it's three times in your first year starting out at like six months. I have a question for Kelly. I mean, I listen to Kelly while I'm on the radio station with you guys all the time. And my question, Kelly, is, you know, there's been a lot of things good and bad done with CRISPR over the years. Do you think there's some guys out there with CRISPR who are trying to figure out how to alter or change the genetics enough to kill the spike protein and repair? You know, what's going on? I mean, is that, I mean, those are, those are sometimes scary things, but I just wondered if you'd heard anything about that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, that's certainly what people are working on or looking for because, as I said, that's the brass ring. You can continue to eliminate spike proteins, but the bottom line is, you know, it's kind of the difference between, you know, putting an ant trap out and catching, you know, the ants that are out there versus eliminating, you know, the nest. You're trying to eliminate where these things are coming from. Otherwise, you're just in a perpetual cycle. cycle of trying to eliminate the toxin. So absolutely, there are folks who are looking at how do we turn off the mRNA, if not actually eliminating that genetic component from the cell nucleus, how do you actually turn it off so it's not sending the messages? And it may, ironically, be with another mRNA injection. It may take mRNA to turn off the original mRNA. which is scary and is going to have, you know, there's going to be a lot of resistance to that, but that may be the ultimate fix. You would think these are the kinds of things, by the way, that should have been hashed out before they injected, you know, more than half of the planet with this stuff. You know, this is not the time to be looking to say, oh, by the way, how do we eliminate this or turn it off? You know, where's the off switch? Oh, we forgot about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Here in the U.S., Dr. Kelly, as you know, and Steve as well, it's like 80% of the folk out there ended up getting at least one of the shots. Steve, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, you know, look, if they don't figure this out, I mean, because the numbers on not only the spike protein being produced after two years, it's how much of it is being produced. It's a large quantity. And then we saw that article this week about the cancer impact. I mean, I honestly, you know, we don't try to scare people on the show. But if you told me what I know now about the spike protein and what it does. And the risk of cancer, I would have a hard time sleeping a lot of days just knowing that when I wake up tomorrow, something's going to be growing because this stuff is so heinously bad. I mean, it's just really, really bad. And I think people should be worried about it. I think, you know, they should encourage people to find solutions to it because if they don't find solutions to it, as we talked about earlier, you know, a thousand people will die. You never knew and never thought about it. And they'll just keep doing it until there's none of us left.
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House. Again, if you're new, just listening for the first time, go to our website, RushToReason.com. There's a page there dedicated to Dr. Kelly and links to a lot of the things that we have talked about over the past five years plus. Dr. Kelly, I'm thinking out loud. And there was an article that we were sending around to one another talking about the turbo cancers, things, by the way, that you talked about a while back. And a lot, unfortunately, I'm not celebrating this, but a lot of what you and Steve both talked about several years ago are now coming to fruition, and they keep coming. keeps growing and getting larger. So the question I have, knowing that I talked to a lot of people, not only you on Thursdays, but during health and wellness, I talked to a lot of different people about nutrition and health and cancers and so on. And knowing that, you know, cancers feed off of sugar and frankly, other bad habits health wise. If I were somebody that had happened to get a shot and maybe now regret getting it, but there's, as we've talked, really no reversal of at this point in time, would it behoove me to, to take myself completely off of all things sugar, reduce my carbs, in other words, try to eat as clean, quote-unquote, as possible to try to counter some of that, or does it make any difference?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think it makes a huge difference. There's no question for anybody, independent of your vaccine status and whether or not you've put yourself at increased risk for developing cancer because you've taken one or more mRNA injections. I think it makes sense for everybody. We now recognize... cancer is largely a metabolic disease. It is not just a genetic disease the way that we once thought, and it has to do a lot with the American diet. The fact that we eat so much sugar, that we eat so frequently, that we rarely go without eating, meaning short periods of fasting, and we eat tremendous amounts of sugar, as you said, which is the preferred energy source for cancers. So I think it moves everybody to limit the amount of sugar that they take. Americans eat a tremendous amount of added sugar. And just becoming more cognizant of that, start looking at labels and starting to decrease the amount of added sugar that you take in on a regular basis. In my mind, there's absolutely no justification for anybody to drink a regular soft drink today. If you don't like diet drinks and there are lots of reasons not to drink them, then go to seltzer water, mineral water, iced tea, something else. The amount of sugar in a can of regular soda is astronomical and there's no justification for it. Save your sugar for something else. With regard to the increased risk of cancers from these shots, yes, as you said, I did predict it. I predicted it early on before the shots were rolled out. I said this is going to cause cancer. It's going to suppress the immune system, and the immune system is the first line of defense against cancers, unfortunately. what I predicted has come to fruition in a really tragic way. We are seeing overwhelming numbers of turbo cancers, meaning very, very aggressive cancers and cancers that are happening in people in age groups in which we never saw them before. And what I'm talking about is things like aggressive colon cancers in people in their teens and 20s, aggressive ovarian cancers in women in their 20s and 30s, in recurrence of cancers that had been in remission sometimes for well over a decade, now coming back with a vengeance. This was predictable, and unless we get our arms around it, the next decades are going to be, unfortunately, fraught with a lot of pain and suffering.
SPEAKER 09 :
You probably know this answer, Steve. You might as well. I'm going to throw it out there anyways just to see I just looked it up, and granted, this is the average. So some consume more, some consume less. This is the average. Do you know how many pounds of sugar on average an American consumes each year?
SPEAKER 03 :
A hundred? I'm guessing. I don't know the answer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Ding, ding, ding. You are the winner, Steve.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, think about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Think about that. Yeah, thank you. Think about that. I mean, Dr. Kelly, when you put it in that perspective and you say the average American is eating, consuming 100 pounds of sugar a year, most of them wouldn't believe that's the case. But to your point earlier, when you look at what's in a soft drink even and how much sugar is in it, yeah, it doesn't take much to get to that 100 pounds. And by the way, like I said, that's the average. There are some out there probably consuming half of that and others consuming twice that much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. If you look at the amount of sugar, for example, the number of people I know who say, oh, I don't eat breakfast. I just stop and get a coffee. And what they mean when they get stopping at a coffee is they go to Starbucks and get some coffee beverage, which has the amount of sugar that's in three cans of Coca-Cola. So the amount of sugar that is added to some of these things is ridiculous, and portion sizes have gotten out of control. In the 1950s, a normal size of a soft drink was 8 ounces. Then it went to 12 ounces. Then it went to 16 ounces. Now when you go and get a regular soft drink, at McDonald's, it's a 24-ounce drink, okay? It is three times what it was in the 1950s. Yet people think, oh, you know, all I had was a Coke. Well, no, you actually had three Cokes, and it's that amount of sugar. And so I think that certainly what we are consuming is adding to the issue with cancers, but it is all eclipsed, unfortunately, by the tragedy that was the mRNA shots for COVID.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, again, we were sending that video around. Actually, Tucker Carlson has done some interviews and some videos on this of late, which not to toot our own horn, but it's funny. We've got now Tucker Carlson running around talking about and interviewing some of the same things that, Steve, you, I, and Dr. Kelly have literally been talking about for four-plus years. Now it's almost like, I love you, Tucker, but no offense, you're a little behind the times here.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I read that article, Eric. I was listening to what he was talking about, and I came up with a conclusion that I'll ask you guys whether you agree or not, too. But when I think about Kelly Victory, Simone Gold, Peter McCullough, Marty, all these guys... including Ron Johnson, who's not a doctor but a senator, I think the difference between the group of people, John, that you and I got exposed to through Kelly, and I had some direct exposure to as well, is they never overreacted. They didn't, like, look at it and go, oh, my God, the world is going insane and it's crazy and all this other stuff regarding the virus itself. They looked at it like a scientist and said, we got a problem. what's the problem really all about what are the concerns it is a virus it is a coronavirus yada yada and they started thinking they never stopped thinking to be honest with you i think the people who came up with solutions and we will come up with solutions going forward and the people like that and kelly and her team were great at it i heard it you know on weekly calls with a bunch of people across the country she invited me to and that was it they never panicked they kept thinking they kept being scientists and doctors and that's why we had the advantage
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. I agree. All right. This was a question, more of a thought that came in that, by the way, I don't know that I can argue with this. And I'll talk to Dr. Kelly. I'll ask you first. And Steve, you can chime in. I foresee groups of specialists that work for insurance companies forming an alliance to make all advice, medically speaking. Then something like a PA will staff the facilities and nurses to administer that advice. There will be no more primary care physicians unless you go the concierge route, but then you have to wonder if the hospital will allow your concierge to get you admitted to actually then go see a specialist. Dr. Kelly, your thoughts? That was from a listener, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I certainly hope that's not the way it's going, but I don't think it's far off. There's no question that we are on a slippery slope when they started allowing PAs and nurse practitioners to to be fundamentally stand-ins for physicians. The level of training is vastly different. The level of experience is vastly different. There's a role for PAs and surgical assistants and nurse practitioners, absolutely, but they should not be replacing somebody who went to 12 years of You know, education and had a lot more has a lot more experience. It all comes down to dollars and cents and what the insurance companies and what hospitals want to pay for. Unfortunately, people have been lulled to believe that these algorithms and let's face it, that's what AI is. It's all algorithmic. that is a substitute for the thinking human brain. And it's going to dumb down, if you will, the quality of medicine that everybody gets. And those people who are able to afford it will go the concierge route and the rest of the people will get sort of what happens when you go the socialized route, which is everybody gets a mediocre level of care and nobody gets really great care.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, your thoughts on all of that? Again, you're on the admin side, so you of all people will see some of this stuff sooner probably than later when it comes to that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, statistically, country by country across the world who are delivering longer lifespans at a lower cost per capita all of them pay their primary care providers around 15% of the healthcare dollar that they spend. We spend about 5% or 6% on primary care. When primary care and internal medicine physicians See patients first, develop a relationship with them. They reduce emergency room visits by somewhere between 70% and 80% typically. We are going in the opposite direction. We are trying to minimize primary care when it is the one thing where the statistics never vary. If you have strong primary care, if you pay them well, if they get a chance to develop relationships, you get more doctors going into that business, and you get a better outcome, longer life at a lower cost.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dr. Kelly, when it comes to HHS and a lot of the things that are getting revamped, as you said earlier, a question that I have, given the fact that I just threw out that number of 100 pounds of sugar a year is what the average American actually consumes. Do you see Robert Kennedy Jr. and his staff focusing on some of these things that even we've talked about today? In other words, educating people that, hey, do you all know you're taking in 100 pounds of sugar a year?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And I think that rather than, quote, banning things, you know, the idea I am not a proponent of, you know, banning, you know, Scorpies or Binkles. I think, you know, people should be able to make their own choices. But what you can do is use the power of the purse to incentivize companies to do the right thing, to come up with products that have less sugar, for example, that don't include artificial dyes and artificial colorings, artificial preservatives. And you can certainly use the power of the purse to ban or keep those things out of the schools because you say, here's the deal. We're not going to give you the contract for the school lunch program if your foods include these things or that they have more than X number of grams. added sugar per serving kind of thing so I yes I think that you can motivate people people are largely motivated by things like fear and they are motivated by money they're motivated by it is you know watch people's behavior They do not want to do anything that's difficult. That's why so many people flock to stuff like Ozempic. They want a pill or an injection or a quick fix rather than the thing that's harder to do. So I think this new administration will hopefully use the power of the purse to incentivize companies to create healthier products. They will return physical education, hopefully, to the school curriculum. The idea that kids in elementary school no longer have to spend you know, 45 minutes or whatever, five days a week doing something physically active. That's a tragedy that it's during those formative years that kids learn to appreciate daily exercise, which is a core component of good health. It cannot be done with diet alone. And we've got to get back to some of those basics. And those things, by the way, are largely free. They don't cost Americans a lot of money.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great point. Steve, your thoughts on all of that and what we might see? Again, lots of changes. I've heard Dr. Kelly and some of you talk about some of those changes that hopefully we'll see coming out of HHS. But I, for one, I hope that, A, we get some of these pharmaceutical ads off of the air and, by the way, replace them with some of this educational stuff that we're talking about right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I have two or three things that I tend to follow fairly closely, John. One is you cannot ask a person to replace a habit. with a dramatic change. So if you eat M&Ms every day at 10 a.m. in the morning as a snack, you know, and a nutritionist says, I want you eating broccoli, it's too dramatic of a change. So it has to be, you know, a process you go through. The second thing is take out all the toxins, right? I mean, I think Kelly's right about that. I mean, if you get all the toxins out and I'm still eating food that isn't necessarily great for me, at least I'm not getting bad food and toxins to go with it. And the third thing is There are a couple of simple metrics, you know, 10,000 steps today, actually 8,000 steps. You know, you shorten all-cause mortality by like 40%. If you can sit on the floor and get up off the floor without using your hands, that level of flexibility, you live 60%, you know, all-cause mortality goes away. I mean, there's lots of things like that. Just give us the simple stuff and don't expect a miracle. And I think people will be incentivized, but make food toxin-free and not quite as bad for us, and we'll see it happen.
SPEAKER 09 :
A few minutes left here, Dr. Kelly. I'll give you the floor on this one because with all of what's happening right now with Robert Kennedy Jr., the left, of course, has already been unhinged. I can already feel their unhingeness in the additional cuts that are now going to happen out of that. And I can already hear the people out there, oh, there's just no way we can handle things. Nobody will be healthy again. There's no way we can run things with that less staff and on and on and on. I mean, I guess my question is, how do they fight against all of this left nonsense that keeps coming out?
SPEAKER 11 :
They fight with results. It's going to be results. They're going to have to show. I have no question they can do it. The amount, the bloated, you know, administration that's happening in these agencies has been going on for decades. I think cutting it out and then proving results that they start to deliver on some of these things. If we start to see true, you know, reductions, even a fraction of a point of reduction in the rates of obesity, for example, among school children. You know, the fact that We've got 40% of adolescents are pre-diabetic in the United States. Wow. Forty. Four out of ten. We can't sustain that. So if they could make some changes in over a two- or three-year period, say it's not 40% anymore, it's 30% or 35%. Certainly horrific numbers still, but it's going to be results-driven, John. They're going to have to prove that with fewer people they can spend less money and do more. And I think it's possible. I think this is exactly, Robert Kennedy Jr., if anybody's the one to do it, and along with the cuts that Elon Musk is making, I think they can show better results for less money.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, you've been in the corporate world for a long time. I've run small businesses my entire adult life. The reality is I for one know that in a lot of cases, despite what people might think, you can actually get more with less because you become more efficient. Your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you mean get more with less in that context, John?
SPEAKER 09 :
Less people getting more work done because in some cases, more people just adds to the convolution of what's going on. And in a lot of cases in business, you can get more productivity and more done with less people.
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Well, you can. I mean, I think there's a tipping point on everything, right? Of course. I mean, you know, like if you walk into a car rental place these days and they got one person working and 27 people in line, you know, more people doesn't make it worse. They make it better because they can do that. Right. Right. I mean, the problem is with. systems that are inefficient.
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Well, but really quick, I'm going to go back to your example really quick before we move on. On the same token, if there's six checkout lanes there, and all of a sudden there's 24 people there that are all trying to do the same thing, that's an example of too many people make it worse.
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Yeah, in fact, I'll give you a clinical example. We just did a study at a hospital in New England. Eight cardiologists come in on the same day. There are five exam rooms. They are far worse off getting patients through the process that day than the day that they have four cardiologists in five exam rooms. So, yeah, there's that type of scenario. The problem with the government is that there's just not enough money when you have these kind of deficits to do the training, the implementation, all the things we really need to do to make this government run efficiently, and medicine as well. Medicine is horribly inefficient in so many ways. There are too many people, but there are too many people because we haven't changed the culture or the processes to fix it.
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I'll leave it at that. We can continue this on next week. Dr. Kelly, victory as always. Thank you for your time. It always flies by.
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Welcome to Water Talk with Paul the Waterman brought to you by Water Pros. Paul the Waterman is Colorado's expert on all things related to the water we use and drink in our homes. Have you ever thought about where your water actually comes from? Is it safe to drink? Is it harmful to my health, my skin, or my hair? Paul the Waterman knows water and he has the answers. So get ready to talk to the Waterman yourself right now. Call in with your questions to talk with your host, Paul the Waterman.
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Happy Thursday, everybody. I'm Paul the Waterman, a.k.a. Paul Dowding. How are you doing? Hey, we're going to have a great show today, and if you have questions on the material that we share with you, give us a call. We'd love to talk to you about it. You can reach us here in the studio at 303-477-5600. That's 303-477-5600. So we've been doing some research on the PFAs of forever chemicals in the water. We found... Some really good information that we're going to share with you the next couple of weeks. The PFAS contamination is global, but I didn't realize how bad and how long the PFAS contamination has been happening. It's dangerous. Do I think our water quality is safe? I absolutely do not, and I think you'll share that feeling with me after the information that we share with you, especially today. So last week we talked about DuPont and what happened with them and the PFAS contamination. Today it's 3M's turn. And so this information that you're hearing is a video that can be found on YouTube. And so I encourage you to do your research because you'll see and find the same things that we're going to be sharing with you. And it's clearly our responsibility to look at the quality of the water that we have. And I think we also have to make our elected officials pay more attention to what I think is an epidemic of poor water quality, and it's global. So, okay, look, let's start it out.
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Here we are in the Faroes, a remote community off of the North Atlantic. We have been living off fishing for hundreds of years. We have no production of chemicals, but we are exposed to a lot of chemicals. They came to us without our asking us. We have seen negative effects on the health of our children. We want to see their development because we have always been a bit suspicious if these substances can have any impact on the endocrine system. This is a price to pay for what the international society have done without thinking about the consequences of just releasing new substances.
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What we have seen here in the Faroes is that this is part of an absolutely global contamination that may have started in the 1960s without us being aware of it.
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So PFAS is everywhere.
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PFAS have contaminated our food supply, and PFAS can also accumulate in soils, in sediments.
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There are chemists who have sampled rainwater on the Antarctica and in the Himalayas. What did they find in the rainwater? PFAS. It's all over.
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They don't just stay in the environment, in our water, in our soil, but they get into living things and they stay in us. It's like a ticking time bomb in the body as this stuff is building up and coating all of our organs and staying there year after year.
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We have analyzed thousands and thousands of human blood samples. We never met one that did not contain PFAS.
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We have all paid a high price due to large corporations carelessly dumping known toxic chemicals. Through no fault of my own, I was exposed to these toxic chemicals. And as a result, I will die with this cancer.
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We've all been used as guinea pigs for the last 70 to 80 years. We weren't told we were being exposed, even though the companies knew that these things, if we put them into these products, they will get into people. They will get into people's blood. But they did it anyway.
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It's hard to even talk to people about these chemicals and tell them, look, there's a chemical that's in you that's not found anywhere in nature. These chemicals are found in 99% of people. It just sounds crazy. Tell people that these are also forever chemicals, that we've created a chemical that we don't know how to destroy. It sounds even stranger.
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So PFAS are synthetic man-made chemicals. PFAS stands for per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances. It's quite a mouthful. It's an acronym that stands for a family of thousands of different chemicals. The most recent estimate from the EPA says that there are over 14,000 different chemical structures that they recognize to be PFAS. They share the same chemical property of having many carbon-fluorine bonds. These carbon-fluorine bonds are some of the strongest bonds in organic chemistry. So for this reason, PFAS have also been called forever chemicals because those carbon-fluorine bonds just really don't break down.
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But the part where this story gets really strange is looking at their origins, because these chemicals came from the Manhattan Project, which was a secret project to build the atomic bomb in World War II. So after the war, companies began experimenting with these chemicals. One company had a scientist who accidentally splashed some of it on their canvas shoes. They discovered the chemicals had stain-proof and waterproof properties. That company was 3M.
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Because of their unique chemical properties, they're added to products to make them non-stick, grease-proof, stain-proof, and water-resistant.
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You know who's going to win this contest. Teflon is so much easier to clean than stainless steel or uncoated aluminum.
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These chemicals went into some of these companies' most famous products, like 3M's Scotchgard and DuPont's Teflon. These chemicals were really at the dawn of what we think of as the era of better living through chemistry. And they sort of epitomized this attitude of consumers and companies that everything we do could become more convenient.
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...on virtually any fabric. Use Scotchgum, a fabric protector, and let your cock run its over.
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Consumers are still really enjoying the fruits of this era. When you look around you, there are so many things that are stain-proof or waterproof, like pizza boxes that are grease-resistant or microwave popcorn bags. They're in industrial applications like plastics, semiconductors. They may even be used in solar panels and wind turbines. They're in a lot of products that it's not even clear why they're there, like toilet paper or dental floss. But as time has gone on and more scientific research into them has progressed, we've realized that they also have a downside. We're east of Minneapolis in Minnesota near 3M's global headquarters. So back in 2018, I started looking at 3M's history with PFAS chemicals. I wrote a story at that time. A lot has changed since then, and I'm back to see what's happened. In 3M's hometown in Cottage Grove, Minnesota, and in the surrounding areas of Oakdale and Lake Elmo, the company had been dumping these chemicals since the 1960s. And clearly these chemicals got out into the environment. They were seeping underground, getting into aquifers, getting into soil. And that's really the beginning of this gigantic plume that was later documented around the 3M site in Cottage Grove. The pollution has caused concern among the people who live in the area. There are troubling statistics about childhood cancer, which is thought to be more connected to environmental contaminants.
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Hi. Hi, how's it going? How are those burgers? Great. I'm a wonderful barbecuer, obviously. Do you have a plate to put them on? That probably would have been something I should have grabbed as well.
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Oh my gosh, mother.
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Back in 2018, I interviewed a number of local residents, including Amy and her daughter, Lexi. I was so happy to get back in touch with you and find out that Lexi has made a full recovery. So how many years did that take?
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Being done with treatment and stuff, to be fully considered cancer-free, it took five years after I was treated for it.
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So when did you first start suspecting that it could be an environmental issue? I drank city water growing up, so city of Oakdale water. And then when I was pregnant with Lexi, her dad and I moved into an apartment in Oakdale and lived there until she was about two or three. And all of her baby bottles were made with the water. We didn't buy the filtered water then. I don't think it was as common as it is now. I don't really remember people as having bottles of water. It was more of a luxury. People didn't want to spend money on that.
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I mean, do you ever think back about, like, eating fish from the lake or anything else that might have put her at higher risk?
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I've been eating fish since, like, the day I was, like, one years old. Like, since the day I could chew, my grandpa has been having me eat fish.
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From the lakes around here? Yeah. So my dad, her grandpa, he's a professional fishing guide. Oh, wow. So he loves the fish, and he loves to go fishing, and...
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Okay, so I want to interrupt real quick. Minnesota is the birthplace of the Mississippi River. Also, the river that went through my hometown, the Rock River in Illinois. And so these contaminants are global contamination. And I think it's something that it's been in all our drinking water and all our food. And one of the things that bothered me personally is when I was listening to that EPA webinar last year, not one time did they talk about the severity. And nor did they mention 114,000 chemicals, it's probably grown, that make up the Pease Foss family. So the good news is that we can remove this from the drinking water with a point of use reverse osmosis drinking water system. We can also remove this with a whole house anion resin based system. And I definitely recommend that both those are supported with a whole house water softener. Because hard water can absolutely wreak havoc on water filtration. Another known method to remove PFAS is activated carbon. But activated carbon doesn't last forever. It breaks down. And quite frankly, activated carbon absorbs a whole bunch of other organics. So, you know, with this PFAS contamination, my professional and personal opinion is that we look at the more reliable and long-term reduction methods with a point of use reverse osmosis or the whole house and on resin based system. And that's something that can absolutely remove the PFAS. Something else to listen to is that since World War II, basically till today, PFAS are still an active part of our environment. And there's countries, other countries that have not taken steps to, you know, cut back on the PFAS. And PFAS, you'll find, can also be spread globally through, you know, the rainwater. So, okay, look, let's pick it back up.
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Oh, wow. So he loves the fish, and he loves to go fishing and come home and make big fish fries. And, yeah, they live right over by here. It's about a six-minute drive from here. So all the lakes that he would go to would be Lake Montreville, Lake Jane, all the ones in Lake Elmo. My dad's a lot more particular now if he's going to actually keep them.
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Not everyone was as fortunate as Lexi. Death records show a child who died in Oakdale from 2003 to 2015 was 171% more likely to have had cancer compared to those who lived outside the contaminated area. So in that area, one of the schools was Tartan High School, and there was a math teacher there who told me the numbers just weren't adding up. There were so many students who seemed to have rare cancers, so many teachers who had family members with cancer, and one of the most outspoken students about this was Amara Strandy.
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I'm 20 years old, and at the age of 15, I was diagnosed with stage four fibrolamellar hepatocellular carcinoma. I've had over 20 surgeries, including two liver resections and one open chest surgery. There are no more treatments to try, no roadmap, and no plan.
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So is this her bedroom or just her hangout?
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No, this is her bedroom. This was her bedroom. The reason why there's no bed in here is because it was a hospital bed and we had to give that back to the hospice.
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It was from hospice.
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Amara was diagnosed with cancer at age 15 and she died just two days before her 21st birthday in April of 2023.
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What she's most proud of is her music studio.
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Wow, how many different instruments does she have in here? I see a violin. There's your ukulele, her mandolin.
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There might be a harmonica or kazoo somewhere in there.
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Her first love was music. She was a composer. She had written songs. Her dream of a career was to write music, compose music for either computer games or maybe even film scores.
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And she could keep composing even while she was sick?
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She was composing up until just a few days before she died.
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But she couldn't sing anymore.
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They removed this large mass that had grown into the fibers of her liver, of the fiber lamellar variety of liver cancer. Fibrolamellar hepatocellular carcinoma is a cancer that is found in one in five million people. It's very rare.
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Did any doctors along the way say they thought there might be an environmental cause for the cancer or suggest any lifestyle changes?
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That was not their concern. Their concern was to deal with the cancer as they understood it. It wasn't until much later, and Amara started inquiring, about How possibly could this happen to her?
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And did she first start asking those questions at all because she was a student at Tartan and there have been so many other cancers there?
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Absolutely. I mean, she was aware of the community concern about PFOFs. It was something that the kids talked about at school and even joked about, you know, as much as you can joke about, you know, don't drink the water here.
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Don't drink the cancer water as they talked about it.
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She knew kids whose parents had cancer. And then she knew kids whose siblings had cancer. She wanted to know, why doesn't anyone know about this? And why aren't people asking questions?
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So that's a great point. Why aren't people asking questions? When we got the communities received letters last year regarding they were mandated by the EPA and those letters saying that the water quality didn't meet standards for PFAS, forever chemicals, why didn't they have more information in those letters? Why wasn't there facts regarding the potential health hazards of drinking water with PFAS contamination? That's something that, you know, really boggles my mind. This information that, you know, you guys can find it. It's on YouTube. I encourage you to get it. Why is the federal government not doing more? And why haven't we put together the world's top scientists? I'm very serious about this to try to, you know, eradicate this PFAS problem. I mean, this is extremely serious. It's a global, you know, contamination. So it's not only in our water supply. It's, you know, in the grass. It's in the trees. It's in the vegetables. It's in the fruit. It's in the animals. So it's all part of the cycle of life. Now, I'm not trying to, you know, scare people, but I want to bring it to our attention. And I've said this all along. We have to take our own responsibility to treat the quality of our water. And PFAS is just one thing. problem in a pool of other contaminants within our water supply pharmaceuticals absolutely pharmaceuticals is another concern that we're going to have to deal with and we'll bring that to your attention as well but PFAS how many cancers in the last let's say you know 10 years have people have succumbed to that were created because of the water that they drink And it stays in our body. It accumulates in our body. And, you know, other research we found that, you know, pregnant women, you know how pregnant women get rid of PFAS contamination? By breastfeeding. Now, that's scary, isn't it? When a pregnant woman breastfeeds, the PFAS leave her body and go to the newborn baby. That's a fact. Okay, Luke, let's go.
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Even though Amara and Lexi's mother, Amy, believe that these cancers are linked to PFAS chemicals, it's something that's very hard to prove. It takes years of research, both on a population level and in particular when you look at one individual. But fears about the water intensified by what would come out in the 2010s. Minnesota sued 3M for damaging the state's natural resources with its dumping of PFAS. And in doing so, a mass of the company's internal documents were released. What they revealed has been described as a scientific cover-up.
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seeing the documents that in 1975 3m was told we think we're finding your chemicals these these perfluorinated materials in the blood of the general u.s population and to see what was going on internally you know 3m started testing its own workers and found yes this chemical is building up in the workers who were exposed to this chemical
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They were seeing studies of these chemicals on animals with disturbing effects.
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It shows that in 1997, 3M gave DuPont a material safety data sheet with a label that said cancer warning contains a chemical which can cause cancer. But 3M removed that label the same year and for decades sold PFAS without warning the public of its dangers.
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You see the companies internally debating, do we say anything? Do we tell the government? And unfortunately, what they decided was no.
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Some of 3M's documents even showed that there had been a sort of whistleblower inside the company named Richard Purdy who had said the company wasn't telling its customers about the risks of these chemicals, and he resigned. He referred to 3M's PFOS, or P-F-O-S, as the most insidious pollutant since PCBs.
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Some of the most notorious PFAS are PFOS and PFOA. So these are two PFAS molecules that have a carbon backbone with eight carbon atoms. These are the chemicals that so far have raised the greatest concern. These are the ones that show up most frequently in the environment. These are also the ones that show up most frequently in people's bodies. they have half-lives in blood of years, which means that it would take years to decades for the levels in your blood to go down to an unmeasurable level.
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the 3M company had actually had one of its own scientists sit down and calculate what would be a safe level in human blood. And that scientist had calculated, and even used the word safe on the headline of the document, that the safe level for this chemical in human blood would be no more than 1.05 parts per billion. At the time, in the late 1990s, the average level of that chemical being found in the general U.S. population's blood was 30 times higher than that.
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Okay, so that's really important because during last year's EPA webinar, they were talking about four part per billion. A target of four part per billion, yet they knew... that four part per billion was still too high. Now, at today's time, they publish reports where they believe that, you know, the recommended contamination level for PFAS is zero. So it's up to our municipality, our government, how are they going to address this problem? And we talked about how to remove PFAS from your home. Imagine the size of system that you would have to use to handle a community water filtration system, especially when you have six, eight-inch water mains feeding a community. So water filtration is not plug and play. And one of the things regarding water filtration is hard water will absolutely affect water. For example, I mentioned anion filtration media. Anion media or anion resin is super sensitive and it will not function under hard water. The hard water will destroy the anion resin media. If you have any questions, if you want to comment about this topic, give me a call here at 303-477-5600. That's 303-477-5600. So this is why I mentioned before, maybe we should get tax breaks for people that do their own filtration. But then the filter medias that we use eventually... You're going to have to consider those hot or contaminated. And then we're going to have to have a process of properly disposing water filters that's going to be full of the PFAS. Another thing to consider, and we'll get right back to our story here, but another thing to consider is the wastewater treatment issue that we have. And the human waste that's removed, if that's contaminated with PFAS, what are we going to do with the human waste? We used to sell the human waste as fertilizer to farms. But then we talked about stories, I believe in Texas and Wisconsin, where farms were contaminated, overly contaminated, because of the PFAS and the human waste that was used for fertilizer. This is a big problem that we're going to have to really, you know, have some sincere thought process and what to do. Now, we can do it ourselves. We can definitely treat it ourselves. Again, with the point of use reverse osmosis system. And we can absolutely, you know, set up a whole house anion resin based system again. But if you have hard water, we definitely it all starts with a water softener. And that's something that we can help you out with with water pros. I encourage everybody. to you know dive into this and do your own research you can see for yourself but to me this is not only a global concern but this is worse than a pandemic i mean we have a if you don't have healthy water we don't have a healthy life okay luke in 2018 3m settled but there was no admission that it had done anything wrong that there had been a scientific cover-up or what the real risk of these chemicals was
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3M will pay $850 million to settle claims that contaminated water in Minnesota for decades.
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It's hard to talk about in our community because, like, everyone loves 3M, right? There's not a person I know personally from 3M who isn't a stellar individual. I feel torn inside myself, but I am really angry at whoever at whatever level did what they did, especially after they knew the chemicals were dangerous and they kept doing it.
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So no one even knew what these chemicals were until this lawyer from Ohio came along. His name is Rob Bellot, and he took on the case of a farmer who had these cows downstream of a DuPont factory that were dying.
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It's unbelievable. That calf had died miserable.
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And so Rob Balot's story is now told in the film Dark Waters, where he's played by Mark Ruffalo.
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DuPont is knowingly poisoning 70,000 local residents for the last 40 years. That's not what I was trained to do. That wasn't the kind of thing I was normally doing at the time. I was actually working with chemical companies and big corporate clients, helping them navigate all the federal, state, international laws, rules, regulations, governing, things going out into the environment. It was actually through that case that we took on back in 1998 that we first found out that these man-made chemicals we now call PFAS, forever chemicals, even existed. What we're seeing is not only are we finding all these potential human health impacts, but we're seeing them happening at lower and lower dose levels and exposure levels. We recently had the Federal Environmental Protection Agency come out and essentially say, if you can detect this, it's of health concern.
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The safety advisories keep getting lower and lower. From 70 parts per trillion for both PFOA and PFOS in drinking water in 2016, the EPA lowered it to just four parts per trillion each. That's less than a single drop in an Olympic-sized swimming pool. Each time those levels are lowered, it means that more people live in an area where contaminated water is thought to be a concern. A recent study found that as many as 200 million people are drinking water with more than the acceptable levels of PFAS. That's around two-thirds of Americans. states are taking action and one of those states is minnesota they're not taking any chances with the pfas that are in drinking water and to do that they're trying out new types of water filters pfas is out in the environment and it will spread as far as the water can spread it it's left the barn it's out of the gate
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This waterway is carrying the PFAS right where the air meets the water. And these little bubbles are sort of signs that there might be PFAS in that water. PFAS has a hydrophobic and a hydrophilic nature to it. So if you think about it as like a caterpillar, the head of the caterpillar is hydrophilic. It wants to be in the water. And the tail of it wants to be out of the water. It's hydrophobic. So it kind of surfs along. And so it actually has that property that behaves the same way out in the environment on its own, or whether you're putting it in the water or on a pan, it's going to behave the same way. So mother nature is saying, here's your PFAS, it's in the foam. And so we want to take advantage of that and do the most removal we can.
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It's called the SAF, it's surface activated foam fractionation. We fill those full of contaminated water, and then we are able to physically remove the PFAS by foaming it, adding air into the system. And then we pull the PFAS off of that foam again, and that's where we get a small volume of very high concentrated PFAS containing liquid.
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Thus far, the test has shown us that we can remove roughly 92 to 98% of PFOA and PFAS. It could run at least at 60,000 gallons of water treatment per day. And this is just one small system. So this is effectively the test to see whether we can scale this up to very large volumes. And can we apply this in a permanent location to reduce the PFAS in the environment altogether?
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It's not just 3M or DuPont who are responsible for PFAS pollution. There's about a dozen companies that have produced PFAS around the world. Highly concentrated levels have been found in Europe, Japan and Australia. It's become a multi-billion dollar problem globally. Like the US, a lot of these sites are places where the chemicals are manufactured or sites where other companies use them. One of the most widespread sources are military bases and airports, where firefighting foams containing 3M's PFOS were sprayed right into the ground.
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We're just going right through here.
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So you're here to have your blood drawn? Yes. All right. So come on with me here.
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I've come to Mount Sinai Hospital in New York to have my blood taken and tested for a variety of PFAS. We'll give you a little warning there. All used in different products and made all over the world. So we know these chemicals are everywhere and they're in everyone. The question is obviously, you know, what level of them is unsafe? It's something that science is still trying to figure out. Personally, I've wondered if I could avoid these chemicals as well. PFAS, like a lot of other chemicals, can bioaccumulate, which means it sort of moves up the food chain and becomes more concentrated in predators and apex predators. And one of the places where a lot of the cutting-edge research is being done is surprisingly the Faroe Islands. This small archipelago in the North Atlantic has a population of just over 50,000 people. There is no manufacturing of chemicals here. There's this quirk of local culture that people have eaten whale meat for generations and whale meat can have very highly concentrated levels of chemicals in it.
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Pilot whales as a kind of a gift from nature because over centuries we have harvested them in hundreds and around thousand per year. They were seen as really a gift from almost from heaven. I went out to the public saying that pregnant women, especially a woman who intended to become pregnant, they should really be careful eating pilot whale meat.
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Dr. Paul Waihi and his team found mercury was getting into the local population from whale meat and other seafood. The scientists have studied the Faroese since the 1980s. Every so often, a new cohort of hundreds of children under one year old are added to the research. Their physical and mental development is examined all the way into adult life. They're tested for things such as balance, reaction time, body composition, lung and heart function, even the antibodies in their blood. As the Faroese reduced their consumption of pilot whale, the scientists saw the levels of mercury in their blood lower over time. But unlike mercury, PFAS chemicals are in everything. In the Faroe Islands, people have stain-proof couches and waterproof jackets just like the rest of us. Even in people who had very low levels of the chemicals, the scientists started spotting things that really concerned them.
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What we saw surprised us very much. And we saw that the negative effect on the antibody formation was much higher in children exposed to PFAS than to PCP and other substances.
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people in the Faroe Islands, far away from pollution, and they were exposed to these compounds at something we thought was very low concentrations. And still, we found that every time that a child had a double concentration of PFAS in the blood, the child would lose half of the antibody. Essentially, the vaccines did not work. It means that there is a fault, a weakness in your immune system. It's not functioning optimally. We can see that those kids who have higher exposures have a weaker skeleton, and there's a tendency of, at young ages, to develop what we call prediabetes.
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So as these studies evolve and we learn more about the links between high PFAS levels and health problems, how close are we to understanding how much is too much?
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The World Health Organization experts on cancer believe that if you don't have an optimally functioning immune system, you may be more vulnerable to cancer. So we can see the various diseases that are sort of triggered, if not facilitated. I would call this is a multi-organ toxicant, PFAS. It affects multiple targets. And it may be that different PFAS's that each take their pick of their favorite toxicity. We're trying to decipher that.
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One of the most disturbing things that persists as a scientific problem with PFAS is that there's no known way to get them out of our bodies. There's only one way that's known of, and unfortunately, that's through mothers giving birth. They're offloading their PFAS to their children, both at the time of birth and through breastfeeding. And this just has huge implications for not just our generation but the generations to come that we're passing these PFAS on to our children.
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So I want to point something out. Types of cancer becoming more common in young people. Men and women in the prime of their lives are increasingly becoming diagnosed with serious cancers including colorectal, breast cancer, prostate cancer, uterine, stomach, gastric cancer, pancreatic cancer. The forecast is predicting that cancer for the young people will increase globally by 30% from 2019 to 2030. Is it because of the water that we drink?
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Elsa Helmsdale is both a scientist who studies PFAS, a person who has been through the cohorts, and a mother who's had to deal with PFAS on a very personal level.
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I thought a lot about it and I decided to only breastfeed for six months, even though the recommendation is that you breastfeed for a year.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. Did it feel strange to think about being sort of pre-polluted or sharing your pollution with your child?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, it did. And also because I didn't know my own levels and you actually give... a lot of the contaminants, in this case the PFAS, to children, so their levels go really high and your levels drop as a consequence of breastfeeding. I didn't think about it that much when I was testing myself, but I do think about it a lot when it comes to my kids.
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We're starting to understand that early life exposures can change the configuration of our chromosomes. And so the question is, is it something that can affect future generations if we pollute or expose the currently pregnant women? And this has been shown in rodent studies that it can happen. The pesticide is completely gone, but the changed DNA chemistry is not.
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PFAS aren't just a problem for humans. The chemicals have been detected in animals for decades, from polar bears in the Arctic to dolphins in India. In the Faroe Islands, they're also studying the impact on wildlife. Ornithologist Schroeder-Hammer is looking at their effects, both on seabirds and to ecosystems as a whole.
SPEAKER 30 :
We're fairly confident that the PFAS that we're finding in seabirds for the most part comes from their diet. There's important research done quite recently on how pollutants have a negative impact on top predators in particular, where you see high concentrations and that has a knock-on effect on their, it could be parasite load, but it could also be their likelihood to catch infections or to survive a pandemic like avian influenza.
SPEAKER 15 :
So if we were to lose an apex predator like the great skua, what are the consequences ecologically?
SPEAKER 30 :
Ecologically, top predators are so very important in stabilizing the ecosystem. They have a kind of controlling top-down effect on the ecosystem.
SPEAKER 15 :
Are there other consequences ecologically to these birds in particular having PFAS or other chemicals?
SPEAKER 30 :
We very often look for sublethal effects. They may have more subtle effects on their reproduction, for example. And also in relation to PFAS, there are indications that the mothers pass it on to their eggs. So there's what we call maternal transfer as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Just as with humans.
SPEAKER 30 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 26 :
We have documented some of the negative consequences and we send the message back to you. Please learn the lesson. It can be irresponsible just to invent some new substances and produce them and send them out without any control.
SPEAKER 15 :
As more has been learned about the health hazards of these chemicals, regulation of PFAS has really picked up. It's forcing a reckoning for the chemical companies. They're seeing settlements from lawsuits that are amounting to tens of billions of dollars. While claims that PFAS chemicals cause cancer have been litigated elsewhere, there's never been a major trial in Minnesota. Skeptics say the state's drinking water contains other contaminants, but many people living in areas with high levels of PFAS still question 3M's role. Even since the 2018 settlement, Minnesota is still working out how to deal with PFAS.
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The PFAS legislation that we have, this year we named it the Amara Law. It will ban non-essential use. It will require labeling of any product that has PFAS in it.
SPEAKER 09 :
these manufacturers were coming forward wanting to be considered essential. So that's how we found out there were all these products that had PFAS in them because they wanted to be on the essential list.
SPEAKER 05 :
We didn't know how extensive PFAS chemicals were in different products. We kept learning more and more every day of the thousands of products that contained these chemicals.
SPEAKER 09 :
And at the same time, how would any of us know? It's not listed on ingredients. It's not listed on what is used to make this particular shampoo or this particular dental floss.
SPEAKER 16 :
We need stricter regulations on the use of PFA's chemicals and more research to be done on the long-term effects of exposure. We also need more education for the public about the dangers of these chemicals so that people can make informed choices about the products they use.
SPEAKER 09 :
Her voice in the legislature was a voice for the community. They saw her as she was getting weaker. I saw her as getting clearer, in many ways stronger than she'd ever been.
SPEAKER 07 :
She was a champion for us this year, bringing awareness to this issue. Unfortunately, she passed away, I think it was three days before we had the bill on the floor for the first time.
SPEAKER 05 :
All Amara was asking for in the testifying at the Capitol was for companies who are using these chemicals do the right thing and take responsibility for their use.
SPEAKER 09 :
Her life doesn't seem over to me because she put so much in motion and those things are still in motion. And so there's no over for me yet.
SPEAKER 02 :
So as of April 2024, the EPA finalized drinking water standards for some PFAS which set legally enforceable maximum contamination levels for PFAS and drinking water. And so we're at PFOAs are four part per trillion, PFOS at four part per trillion, PFHXS at 10 part per trillion. Now remember what a part per trillion is different from a part per billion, isn't it? So that's even a smaller amount. So you go from a part per billion to part per trillion. I just wanted to point that out. And so because they said a part per billion, if you take an Olympic-sized swimming pool, it's just one drop. So they went from a part per billion to a part per trillion. A mixture containing two or more of the PFAS contaminants is a hazardous index, and based on combined levels of these chemicals, that also can affect the standards. The maximum contamination levels are different, and those... based on drinking water standards and levels which have to be reliably measured, the public water system must start monitoring for the PFAS by 2027. So we have at least two more years before they have to start monitoring for this contaminant. The system must also provide the public with information on the levels of the PFAS and the drinking water starting in 2027 as well. So again, you heard that the recommendation was part per billion, and now the EPA eventually finalized their drinking water standards, and it's even smaller. They want it at a part per trillion. If monitoring shows that our drinking water levels exceed the maximum contamination levels, a public water system must take measures to reduce the PFAS by 2029. So that means we have four years to come up with a game plan and how this is going to happen. Starting in 2029, public water systems that have PFAS levels exceeding one or more of these maximum contamination levels must take action to reduce levels of the PFAS in their drink of water, and must notify the public of the excess levels. So I wonder when that's going to start happening. They have basically four years to ramp up a program. I haven't heard anybody in our state government talking about this or even local government talking about this. It states that many states have their own regulations regarding PFAS, most commonly the PFOAs. And the PFOS in drinking water, some of these are enforceable drinking water standards, while others are just guideline levels or they just require public water systems to regularly test for certain PFAS and notify the consumer. So, you know, Colorado has a problem at the state lab level. And another scientist or lab tech was found to fudge water test results. And so now the state lab has stopped all testing of water. So I'd like to know if there's another lab in the metro area that's going to be testing municipal water samples for safety. But how many of those test for PFAS? I knew at the time the state of Colorado wasn't set up to test for PFAS. So where is that going to be done? The specific PFAS that are regulated and the levels that are allowed vary among states. that have these regulations. All state standards have to be at least as strict as the EPA drinking water standards that have been enacted on a federal level. What this means is this is a very serious issue. And in the very beginning, when this was exposed, they went from a part per billion down to a part per trillion. So I've always said this. It doesn't take a large number to have contamination. Absolutely doesn't. Now, again, we can treat this ourselves. We can use a point-of-use reverse osmosis unit at the kitchen sink with a separate faucet. We can use an anion resin-based system that will remove it for the whole entire house. Both of those are strongly recommended to be supported by a point-of-use water softener. You have to, you know, water filtration is not plug-and-play, and you absolutely have to remove... Hardness, iron content especially, in order for the anion resin system or the point of use reverse osmosis unit to be functional. We're going to have more information on this. We're going to continue to bring you stories, to bring you information that you can clearly find for yourself. I encourage everybody to do the research. And I think it's going to be up to us to filter and take care of our own water. But we're going to have to start knocking on the door of our politicians, especially at the state level. I haven't heard anything out of Governor Polis' administration to talk about water quality, water contamination. And what we're going to do with this PFAS problem, because Colorado has a PFAS problem for sure. Especially down south in Colorado Springs by the Air Force Base is down there. I'm sure here in Denver Metro area as well. The firefighting foam that we use in all the forest fires. Absolutely, you know, DIA with the PFAS and their firefighting foam and the drills that they use. And it's something that we learned that is spread globally. It's a bioaccumulant contamination. It's everywhere. And as it gets into the human waste and we get rid of the human waste from the waste treatment plants, it's going to get back into our water supply. Are we creating a never-ending cycle of PFAS contamination? Because these chemicals don't break down. These chemicals do not go away and they stay in our body. Stick with us. We're going to have more information on this. I appreciate you stopping by today and hanging out with us. And I want everybody to have a very blessed day. God bless you all.
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Magic mirror on the wall. Who is the fairest of them all?
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Famed is thy beauty, Majesty.
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In the new live-action remake of Snow White, Rachel Zegler's portrayal of this iconic Disney princess arrives after years of rumors and controversy about reported changes to the story. As the story opens, we meet a young princess who's been raised to embrace virtues she'll need to govern one day, traits like bravery, loyalty, and fearlessness. She and her father have endured the loss of Snow White's mother, and the king remarries an enchanting woman who quickly sends him off to stop a supposed invasion. He never returns. Before long, the new queen seizes power. She rules with an iron fist, even as Snow White sees how her cruelty and greed are hurting people, including a young bandit named Jonathan with whom she falls in love. Snow White is sympathetic to her subject's suffering, but the evil queen isn't sympathetic toward anyone, especially Snow White. Along with seven CGI dwarves, Snow White, Jonathan, and others are determined to resist the queen's tyrannical plot.
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Your Majesty. What did you say? The people need some kindness. You know, I really don't remember you being this opinionated.
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The story largely mirrors the 1937 original, though Snow White plays a much more active role in fighting back against the Evil Queen. The biggest issue for families of young children likely remains the creepy, at times dark, magic that the Evil Queen draws upon. That said, this version of the story also presents Snow White as a young woman of bravery and character, one who cares deeply and sacrificially for others. So we're giving Snow White a three and a half out of five for family friendliness. Read the full review at PluggedIn.com slash radio. I'm Adam Holtz for Focus on the Family's Plugged In Movie Review.
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HR1 Rush To Reason March 27, 2025 by John Rush
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This is Rush to Reason. You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes. With your host, John Rush. My advice to you is to do what your parents did. Get a job, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same and there's a big difference.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush, presented by Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, welcome. Thursday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Of course, Dr. Kelly Victory joining us today. I'll start with her. Dr. Kelly, welcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, how are you doing? I'm happy to be back. Lots going on. Lots going on on the health care side in Washington.
SPEAKER 09 :
Always. We'll get to that here in a moment. I'll welcome Steve next. Steve, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I'm trying to recover from the flu, but I'm getting there, and I'm capable for the show today, so I'm fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I appreciate you very much. And for those of you listening, maybe for the first time, you can go check out all of what we've done with Dr. Kelly, her credentials, the things we've talked about literally for the past five years. Go to RushToReason.com. But speaking of all of that, Dr. Kelly, yes, lots of things going on, lots of even— How should I say this? Things in the news of late as to what, you know, the COVID itself, the vaccines and what they're still finding on them and so on. We'll get into some of that today. But on the health care front, speaking of the government end of things, give us an update.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I think the biggest thing that happened certainly so far in this administration is the announcement today that HHS is making fundamental transformations of the agencies themselves. You, Steve, and I just talked about this a week or so ago with regard to how many different agencies fall under HHS. And we were certain that there was redundancy in many of those things, everything from human resources to, you know, all the different administrative components that And it looks like that has been recognized. They're doing a huge restructuring. It will end up decreasing the number of full-time employees at HHS and their different agencies from around 82,000 to 62,000. So a decrease of 20,000 employees. It's predicted to save the taxpayers nearly $2 billion a year through the reduction in redundancy there. And they're really going to focus on the things they should be focusing on to end this epidemic of chronic disease. And those things are clean water, wholesome nutrition, and eliminating environmental toxins. rather than things like creating transgender mice and spending money on things that are not delivering tangible results to the American people.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, too, the one thing that never really gets talked about as well, and you being on the admin side, I mean, Dr. Kelly can talk to this as well, but you're on the admin side, and you cut these people, and yes, there's a savings of the payroll itself, but there's always all of the other ancillary things that it takes to have an employee working, and I'm not just talking the tax burden and FICA tax and all that kind of stuff. I'm talking literally what it takes to actually house and have that person around and the things needed to keep that employee around, it adds up over time, right? Well, yeah.
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I mean, you first start with the concept that about 30% of their salary is how much it costs us extra to provide benefits. And the government benefits are better than most. It's probably a little bit higher than that. You do have all the office time, you have expenses, you have everything else that goes with that. But here's the other problem. I mean, if you even look at the state of Colorado, I mean, I worked inside the Medicaid organization and, It took years, several years, if not four or five years, to replace an IT system inside the state office on Medicaid, which in and of itself would have reduced the need for some labor, would have made things more efficient, better customer service. The problem in Washington, D.C. right now is the IT structures there. We've seen people say that the IRS, that all these other things are six years away from state of the art. And they've said that every year for the last 25 years. So all of these people, many of the redundancies are probably, John, because they just have really lousy systems that they haven't fixed and they just overcome them with people.
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Dr. Kelly, you're on the receiving end of that as a doctor, and you know how a lot of this works in regards to the forms that have to be filed and the things that have to be done billing-wise and so on. And I've heard personally from doctors like you that I have known that in some cases they just, well, Dr. Scott, for example, is one of those. They just get out of it. No more insurance, no more messing around with all that nonsense. I'll concentrate on patient care and get rid of all of this red tape that literally is out there. It's far too much. Will we ever see an end to some of that?
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I think we will, and I think this is on the right path. It remains to be seen what will happen at CMS, Center for Medicare and Medicaid, that's going to be run by Mehmet Oz. But they need to eliminate so much of the red tape involved in that and in the insurance industry. For every single physician on the front lines, there are five or six people in the back office just trying to manage the insurance and get paid for Trying to get in network with an insurer is very, very difficult. It's an owner's task. And these are all activities that do nothing to improve the health or wellness of any of your patients. It's a bunch of paperwork and paper pushing that takes up insane amounts of time and does nothing, which is why we end up where we are right now with the fattest, most sedentary, you know, You know, highest rates of diabetes, obesity, hypertension, kidney disease. It's really a pathetic state of affairs. And it's because we've been wasting our time, money and resources on paperwork rather than taking care of patients.
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Steve, when it comes to some of the IT end of things, which you're very familiar with as well, I think one of the things for me personally that I get frustrated over is just the simple fact that we've got private sector companies that do really well at developing the things that we need governmentally speaking that would streamline A lot of things. And I have to believe that either one of two things has happened over the years. It's either one of those things where nobody wants change and or the amount of government red tape it takes to go through some of those changes. Most don't want to do or those quotes get, you know, those those bids get so overinflated because of what I just said that at the end of the day, they just keep doing what they do year after year after year. And to your point, now, some 25 years later, this updated system we were supposed to have, we still don't.
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Well, yeah. In fact, almost every large corporation that works in the tech space or even in the food service space, anything that supplies stuff that the government would consume will have a commercial division and they'll have a government piece. And so you just think about that. So why do you need a separate group of people just to work with the government? And the answer is because systems are archaic, processes and regulations are overdone. It takes way too much time. So you literally dedicate individual people. It would be like you having an auto mechanic business, and you had one or two guys who would do nothing but service government vehicles because the regulation to do the service was so much more intense than in a good commercial practice. Coupled with that, the combination of systems that we do have, We test, we looked at doctors' schedules over the last year. A doctor will be off six days a month in some cases, and in that six days, they log on to the EHR and do charting and other things virtually every day. You rarely ever find one person, one doctor, who takes one full day off in a month on a regular 12-month basis. They're always working, so that's why they're burnt out.
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And that's why, Dr. Kelly, we have a lot of doctors that have switched over to either a concierge practice or they go specialize in what people can criticize. They go to plastic surgery or they go do other things that don't involve insurance where the customer is directly paying. And frankly, at the end of the day, are probably a lot happier and wealthier when it's all said and done and probably have happier patients.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, without question. Listen, my veterinarians got it figured out. They won't even look at your pet until you give them your credit card. Okay. And frankly, with medicine, it is amazing is no longer, you know, the something that people should go into if they think they're going to make, you know, a significant amount of income. The amount that you actually are able to recoup from the insurance companies, the reimbursements are very, very low. And once you have to be paying that five or six people in the back office in order to get it, it truly has impacted doctors' bottom line. So doctors are working more hours. They're working more than ever, getting paid less than ever. and their quality of life and job satisfaction is very low. At the same time, the experience for the patients is lousy because in order to make ends meet, doctors are scheduling their patients tighter and tighter. You have less and less time. It's very, very common for people to tell me when they go to see their doctor, their experience is, The doctor either never sits down or has his or her hand on the doorknob the entire time that they're talking to the patient. That's not a good optic. It doesn't make people feel that they're being listened to or being cared for. And frankly, it becomes just algorithmic protocol driven medicine rather than the doctor actually sitting down, taking time, listening to your individual concerns and crafting a care plan that is tailored to you and your specific health care issues.
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Almost in bear with me here, Dr. Kelly, because I don't know exactly what it was like in the real old days where you had traveling doctors with the black bag. They went from house to house and so on. Now, I did grow up in a time where we didn't have a lot of the insurance nonsense that we had today. you know, folks paid out of pocket for a lot of smaller things. You had a catastrophic plan and things like that. But it almost seems like everything you just said a moment ago, Dr. Kelly, that we're almost going back in time. And the way I want to explain that is, and I think I'm correct in this, Dr. Kelly, at one point in time, being a doctor wasn't really looked upon like we look upon doctors today. I was at a trivia thing last night, and one of the questions was, it was the bonus question, what's the most rewarding job out there? The answer was... Doctor, well, have we switched to where it's not that any longer because of what you just said, Dr. Kelly? And there was a time even here in the U.S. where being a doctor actually was frowned upon.
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Absolutely, and frankly, I think it is not the most rewarding thing at all, unfortunately, because of the amount of red tape. When I was growing up, we did have a pediatrician who made house calls. We went to see that doctor in the office for routine things, for which we paid cash, by the way. When the doctor made a house call, including on Christmas Day or whatever, it was a holiday, six brothers and sisters, somebody was always sick. I can absolutely recall my father either handing him cash or writing a check if he didn't have cash because that was what was expected. So our pediatrician didn't have to waste time filing insurance claims. We had insurance, and you had to have it in case, God forbid, you had a car accident or you fell off the roof and broke your arm and needed surgery, things like that. It's what we called major medical back in the day or catastrophic insurance coverage. Everything else... You know, the the antibiotics that you took for your strep throat or your routine immunizations or your well baby check got paid for in cash because that's how it's supposed to work. Insurance was never meant to cover routine things. I use the example all the time. Can you imagine what car insurance, you know, your industry, John, what car insurance would cost? If you expected your car insurance to cover filling up your car with gas and getting the tires rotated and the oil change, it would be astronomical.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. No, you're 100% correct. And again, Steve, I'm not trying to downplay current doctors by any means. I mean, I value all of them and appreciate what they do, but it almost seems like we're disincentivizing even new people to come into that field because of what Dr. Kelly just said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so a couple of things. Number one, when I was growing up, If you were really sick and it was hard to see a doctor, you just went to Galilee and talked to Jesus directly about getting recovery. That was the only way it was back in those days. But in all truthfulness, one of the things I do remember, and certainly the demographics support this, the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, you know, the baby boomers were in the heart of their lives. We didn't have and I was born in 1960. We didn't have the same level of vaccines. We didn't have the same level of food problems. So and there wasn't this huge demographic that there is right now that is old. Right. I mean, that's essentially my age. Right. The baby boomers. I mean, the youngest baby boomers were born in 64 years. You know, that aging process has created this massive demand for health care, and the pharmaceutical companies have been more than happy to find drugs to deal with symptoms. And to go back to Kelly's vet example for a second, if you go to your vet and you know you're going to pay $500 because your dog's overweight and they need a hip replacement, When the vet tells you what you need to do for your dog, you do it because you don't want to pay $500 the next time you show up. That's right. So you're more incentivized by paying for the bill yourself.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you get better outcomes that way.
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No liberal media bias here. This is Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly, Victory, Steve House with us as well. All right, a few text messages that came in. I'll start with this one, Dr. Kelly. Somebody actually texted me yesterday and said, would I ask you this today? And that is kids going back to school, things along those lines. Some of that will happen in the fall, although some are getting things registered and getting things ready even for next fall. Now, some schools requiring certain vaccines that you as a parent may not agree with. What do you do in that particular situation?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I would absolutely encourage people to push back. I would ask for a you know, you can try to get a religious exemption. You can get a personal choice exemption. I believe that if you bide your time, many, if not all of the vaccine mandates are likely to go away under this new administration. There's tremendous impetus for them to do that. Robert Kennedy Jr. is certainly aware that this is on everybody's radar. It's something that I believe they are working on. President Trump has already signed an executive order to eliminate mandates in any country. state or federally funded universities. So I think it will happen. I would push back. I would use it as a personal exemption and say that your child can stay in school until such time as it gets litigated. And I would not give in to pressure. If you feel strongly about it, I would hold your ground. I think the issue is that we've got to push back. We've got to demand that we get some sort of relief from the government, and I think it is coming. So I would bide your time, I guess is what I'm saying, because I believe In the same way that I said this about the COVID shots themselves. People said, well, I have to take one because I can't travel. I can't do this. And I said, bide your time because the mandates will go away. And sure enough, they did. So those of us who stood our ground are looking pretty good right now. And I feel badly for the people who did not or felt that they could not stand their ground at the time. This will go away, I believe. And I think it's going to happen in this administration.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and Steve, you can chime in on that, too, if you would like. By the way, thank you, Dr. Kelly, for that, and I think that listener is probably listening. If not, I'll make sure that I text that back. Your thoughts on all that, Steve?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, first of all, state constitutions mandate that all children who live in the state are entitled to an education. Yes, there are rules that the states can make around education. But one of the challenges I would have is to say, look, it's absolutely my child's right to go to school. I'm not getting them vaccinated because I don't believe that it's healthy and proper for them to be vaccinated. And you are not allowed to control the health of my child. So that's one thing. Number two, if it is mandatory and that's the only way, I've got a form for you to sign that says if my child is vaccine injured, you will assume liability for his medical care. And, you know, those are really fighting words, but I've just gotten so sick of the idea that with all of the data regarding children and COVID vaccines, especially why they would still have that posture is beyond me. And frankly, somebody ought to hold them liable for it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Agreed. This one I want to slip in just because I think it's a little bit easier question maybe, Dr. Kelly, for you. What's better for sleep, melatonin or magnesium glycinate?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't think there's a better or worse. I think people need to pick the one that works for them. For some people, melatonin does a brilliant job. For others, it's magnesium. Not me. It's a combination of the two. Yeah, not me.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, for some odd reason, that stuff keeps me up, and I do not know why. I can't answer why, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 11 :
And as I said, you have to figure out what's best for you. I'm the same way with Benadryl. Benadryl is the active ingredient in over-the-counter sleep aids like Sominex. I take a Benadryl when I'm climbing off the walls. So it's the worst possible thing for me. So it's a very independent. There's not one that's better or worse. I think both of them are reasonable things to try, meaning magnesium and melatonin are both reasonable things to try. The best thing you can do, frankly, I hate to say. is to put down your blue screens, put down the phone, put down the iPad, turn off the TV some hours before you actually want to go to sleep when most people do exactly the opposite. Most people are on their iPad in bed those screens emit blue light, and that blue light turns off the portion of your brain that normally naturally produces melatonin. Melatonin is something we all have in our bodies, but we aren't producing enough of it in some part because of the amount of time we spend in front of screens that emit blue light. So I think the best thing you can do is get into some better sleep habits, including turning off your screen some hours before you want to go to bed, and obviously then, you know, things like avoiding caffeine or those sorts of things for a number of hours.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Next one, and there's some video going around. I got this text earlier. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I recommend a simple solution. It's called Jack Daniels. You do that, and it will help you sleep. There you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, there's that too.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. On a more serious note, I've been studying some of the testing that came through MKUltra and some of these other things that were done by the CIA. And one of the things that they talked about was that they used blue screens to actually try to influence people's minds on issues, right? So not only is it turning off the melatonin, but I think sometimes it's talking to you. I think they're trying to message you. And that makes it even worse. I couldn't echo Kelly's stuff more. You need to shut it down. Read an actual book. Yeah. Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you might be better off. All right. Video going around. I think I sent this to both of you as well. We'll talk about this. I want to spend a little more time here because there's I still think a lot of how should I say this? There's just a lot of stuff out there. I don't I don't want to say it's good, bad or otherwise. There's just a lot of stuff out there when it comes to MRNA and even the repercussions of COVID itself. And there's some folks out there now basically claiming that. You know, there are ways to get rid of the shot in your body. They can last anywhere from two to three years. And there are things you can do to actually, quote, unquote, flush your system of the mRNA. And Dr. Kelly, as I was watching some of that earlier today, I thought, well, that's not what I have heard you say. Unless something has changed here of late, I thought once that mRNA is in you, it's in you.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is, and certainly I am unaware at this juncture of any way to eliminate the mRNA. There are absolutely ways to decrease the toxic component, which is the spike protein. To be clear, the mRNA gives the roadmap or the instruction manual, if you will, for your cells to start producing the spike proteins. And that we know is the toxic portion of the virus is that spike protein itself. There are numbers of things that we know that will decrease the concentration of spike protein, and that includes some enzymes like natokinase and bromelain. I am unaware at this point, unfortunately, of how to rid yourself of the mRNA, so I'd love to hear what these folks are thinking. And maybe that is really the brass ring. What we need to come up with is a way to eliminate the mRNA or to turn it off at a minimum, even if you don't eliminate, to tell it to stop sending the messages to your cells to produce these toxic proteins. As at this point, you know, we are now 709 days was the longest study that shows that people who are vaccinated are continuing to produce new spike proteins two years after they were last injected. That's very scary.
SPEAKER 09 :
And at the same time, Steve, promoting that you keep getting re-injected. So we've still got that going on all the way down into infants, by the way, which we didn't get a chance to talk about much last week. Steve, this is just craziness.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know it's three times in your first year starting out at like six months. I have a question for Kelly. I mean, I listen to Kelly while I'm on the radio station with you guys all the time. And my question, Kelly, is, you know, there's been a lot of things good and bad done with CRISPR over the years. Do you think there's some guys out there with CRISPR who are trying to figure out how to alter or change the genetics enough to kill the spike protein and repair? You know, what's going on? I mean, is that, I mean, those are, those are sometimes scary things, but I just wondered if you'd heard anything about that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, that's certainly what people are working on or looking for because, as I said, that's the brass ring. You can continue to eliminate spike proteins, but the bottom line is, you know, it's kind of the difference between, you know, putting an ant trap out and catching, you know, the ants that are out there versus eliminating, you know, the nest. You're trying to eliminate where these things are coming from. Otherwise, you're just in a perpetual cycle. cycle of trying to eliminate the toxin. So absolutely, there are folks who are looking at how do we turn off the mRNA, if not actually eliminating that genetic component from the cell nucleus, how do you actually turn it off so it's not sending the messages? And it may, ironically, be with another mRNA injection. It may take mRNA to turn off the original mRNA. which is scary and is going to have, you know, there's going to be a lot of resistance to that, but that may be the ultimate fix. You would think these are the kinds of things, by the way, that should have been hashed out before they injected, you know, more than half of the planet with this stuff. You know, this is not the time to be looking to say, oh, by the way, how do we eliminate this or turn it off? You know, where's the off switch? Oh, we forgot about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Here in the U.S., Dr. Kelly, as you know, and Steve as well, it's like 80% of the folk out there ended up getting at least one of the shots. Steve, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, you know, look, if they don't figure this out, I mean, because the numbers on not only the spike protein being produced after two years, it's how much of it is being produced. It's a large quantity. And then we saw that article this week about the cancer impact. I mean, I honestly, you know, we don't try to scare people on the show. But if you told me what I know now about the spike protein and what it does. And the risk of cancer, I would have a hard time sleeping a lot of days just knowing that when I wake up tomorrow, something's going to be growing because this stuff is so heinously bad. I mean, it's just really, really bad. And I think people should be worried about it. I think, you know, they should encourage people to find solutions to it because if they don't find solutions to it, as we talked about earlier, you know, a thousand people will die. You never knew and never thought about it. And they'll just keep doing it until there's none of us left.
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House. Again, if you're new, just listening for the first time, go to our website, RushToReason.com. There's a page there dedicated to Dr. Kelly and links to a lot of the things that we have talked about over the past five years plus. Dr. Kelly, I'm thinking out loud. And there was an article that we were sending around to one another talking about the turbo cancers, things, by the way, that you talked about a while back. And a lot, unfortunately, I'm not celebrating this, but a lot of what you and Steve both talked about several years ago are now coming to fruition, and they keep coming. keeps growing and getting larger. So the question I have, knowing that I talked to a lot of people, not only you on Thursdays, but during health and wellness, I talked to a lot of different people about nutrition and health and cancers and so on. And knowing that, you know, cancers feed off of sugar and frankly, other bad habits health wise. If I were somebody that had happened to get a shot and maybe now regret getting it, but there's, as we've talked, really no reversal of at this point in time, would it behoove me to, to take myself completely off of all things sugar, reduce my carbs, in other words, try to eat as clean, quote-unquote, as possible to try to counter some of that, or does it make any difference?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think it makes a huge difference. There's no question for anybody, independent of your vaccine status and whether or not you've put yourself at increased risk for developing cancer because you've taken one or more mRNA injections. I think it makes sense for everybody. We now recognize... cancer is largely a metabolic disease. It is not just a genetic disease the way that we once thought, and it has to do a lot with the American diet. The fact that we eat so much sugar, that we eat so frequently, that we rarely go without eating, meaning short periods of fasting, and we eat tremendous amounts of sugar, as you said, which is the preferred energy source for cancers. So I think it moves everybody to limit the amount of sugar that they take. Americans eat a tremendous amount of added sugar. And just becoming more cognizant of that, start looking at labels and starting to decrease the amount of added sugar that you take in on a regular basis. In my mind, there's absolutely no justification for anybody to drink a regular soft drink today. If you don't like diet drinks and there are lots of reasons not to drink them, then go to seltzer water, mineral water, iced tea, something else. The amount of sugar in a can of regular soda is astronomical and there's no justification for it. Save your sugar for something else. With regard to the increased risk of cancers from these shots, yes, as you said, I did predict it. I predicted it early on before the shots were rolled out. I said this is going to cause cancer. It's going to suppress the immune system, and the immune system is the first line of defense against cancers, unfortunately. what I predicted has come to fruition in a really tragic way. We are seeing overwhelming numbers of turbo cancers, meaning very, very aggressive cancers and cancers that are happening in people in age groups in which we never saw them before. And what I'm talking about is things like aggressive colon cancers in people in their teens and 20s, aggressive ovarian cancers in women in their 20s and 30s, in recurrence of cancers that had been in remission sometimes for well over a decade, now coming back with a vengeance. This was predictable, and unless we get our arms around it, the next decades are going to be, unfortunately, fraught with a lot of pain and suffering.
SPEAKER 09 :
You probably know this answer, Steve. You might as well. I'm going to throw it out there anyways just to see I just looked it up, and granted, this is the average. So some consume more, some consume less. This is the average. Do you know how many pounds of sugar on average an American consumes each year?
SPEAKER 03 :
A hundred? I'm guessing. I don't know the answer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Ding, ding, ding. You are the winner, Steve.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, think about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Think about that. Yeah, thank you. Think about that. I mean, Dr. Kelly, when you put it in that perspective and you say the average American is eating, consuming 100 pounds of sugar a year, most of them wouldn't believe that's the case. But to your point earlier, when you look at what's in a soft drink even and how much sugar is in it, yeah, it doesn't take much to get to that 100 pounds. And by the way, like I said, that's the average. There are some out there probably consuming half of that and others consuming twice that much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. If you look at the amount of sugar, for example, the number of people I know who say, oh, I don't eat breakfast. I just stop and get a coffee. And what they mean when they get stopping at a coffee is they go to Starbucks and get some coffee beverage, which has the amount of sugar that's in three cans of Coca-Cola. So the amount of sugar that is added to some of these things is ridiculous, and portion sizes have gotten out of control. In the 1950s, a normal size of a soft drink was 8 ounces. Then it went to 12 ounces. Then it went to 16 ounces. Now when you go and get a regular soft drink, at McDonald's, it's a 24-ounce drink, okay? It is three times what it was in the 1950s. Yet people think, oh, you know, all I had was a Coke. Well, no, you actually had three Cokes, and it's that amount of sugar. And so I think that certainly what we are consuming is adding to the issue with cancers, but it is all eclipsed, unfortunately, by the tragedy that was the mRNA shots for COVID.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, again, we were sending that video around. Actually, Tucker Carlson has done some interviews and some videos on this of late, which not to toot our own horn, but it's funny. We've got now Tucker Carlson running around talking about and interviewing some of the same things that, Steve, you, I, and Dr. Kelly have literally been talking about for four-plus years. Now it's almost like, I love you, Tucker, but no offense, you're a little behind the times here.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I read that article, Eric. I was listening to what he was talking about, and I came up with a conclusion that I'll ask you guys whether you agree or not, too. But when I think about Kelly Victory, Simone Gold, Peter McCullough, Marty, all these guys... including Ron Johnson, who's not a doctor but a senator, I think the difference between the group of people, John, that you and I got exposed to through Kelly, and I had some direct exposure to as well, is they never overreacted. They didn't, like, look at it and go, oh, my God, the world is going insane and it's crazy and all this other stuff regarding the virus itself. They looked at it like a scientist and said, we got a problem. what's the problem really all about what are the concerns it is a virus it is a coronavirus yada yada and they started thinking they never stopped thinking to be honest with you i think the people who came up with solutions and we will come up with solutions going forward and the people like that and kelly and her team were great at it i heard it you know on weekly calls with a bunch of people across the country she invited me to and that was it they never panicked they kept thinking they kept being scientists and doctors and that's why we had the advantage
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. I agree. All right. This was a question, more of a thought that came in that, by the way, I don't know that I can argue with this. And I'll talk to Dr. Kelly. I'll ask you first. And Steve, you can chime in. I foresee groups of specialists that work for insurance companies forming an alliance to make all advice, medically speaking. Then something like a PA will staff the facilities and nurses to administer that advice. There will be no more primary care physicians unless you go the concierge route, but then you have to wonder if the hospital will allow your concierge to get you admitted to actually then go see a specialist. Dr. Kelly, your thoughts? That was from a listener, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I certainly hope that's not the way it's going, but I don't think it's far off. There's no question that we are on a slippery slope when they started allowing PAs and nurse practitioners to to be fundamentally stand-ins for physicians. The level of training is vastly different. The level of experience is vastly different. There's a role for PAs and surgical assistants and nurse practitioners, absolutely, but they should not be replacing somebody who went to 12 years of You know, education and had a lot more has a lot more experience. It all comes down to dollars and cents and what the insurance companies and what hospitals want to pay for. Unfortunately, people have been lulled to believe that these algorithms and let's face it, that's what AI is. It's all algorithmic. that is a substitute for the thinking human brain. And it's going to dumb down, if you will, the quality of medicine that everybody gets. And those people who are able to afford it will go the concierge route and the rest of the people will get sort of what happens when you go the socialized route, which is everybody gets a mediocre level of care and nobody gets really great care.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, your thoughts on all of that? Again, you're on the admin side, so you of all people will see some of this stuff sooner probably than later when it comes to that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, statistically, country by country across the world who are delivering longer lifespans at a lower cost per capita all of them pay their primary care providers around 15% of the healthcare dollar that they spend. We spend about 5% or 6% on primary care. When primary care and internal medicine physicians See patients first, develop a relationship with them. They reduce emergency room visits by somewhere between 70% and 80% typically. We are going in the opposite direction. We are trying to minimize primary care when it is the one thing where the statistics never vary. If you have strong primary care, if you pay them well, if they get a chance to develop relationships, you get more doctors going into that business, and you get a better outcome, longer life at a lower cost.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dr. Kelly, when it comes to HHS and a lot of the things that are getting revamped, as you said earlier, a question that I have, given the fact that I just threw out that number of 100 pounds of sugar a year is what the average American actually consumes. Do you see Robert Kennedy Jr. and his staff focusing on some of these things that even we've talked about today? In other words, educating people that, hey, do you all know you're taking in 100 pounds of sugar a year?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And I think that rather than, quote, banning things, you know, the idea I am not a proponent of, you know, banning, you know, Scorpies or Binkles. I think, you know, people should be able to make their own choices. But what you can do is use the power of the purse to incentivize companies to do the right thing, to come up with products that have less sugar, for example, that don't include artificial dyes and artificial colorings, artificial preservatives. And you can certainly use the power of the purse to ban or keep those things out of the schools because you say, here's the deal. We're not going to give you the contract for the school lunch program if your foods include these things or that they have more than X number of grams. added sugar per serving kind of thing so I yes I think that you can motivate people people are largely motivated by things like fear and they are motivated by money they're motivated by it is you know watch people's behavior They do not want to do anything that's difficult. That's why so many people flock to stuff like Ozempic. They want a pill or an injection or a quick fix rather than the thing that's harder to do. So I think this new administration will hopefully use the power of the purse to incentivize companies to create healthier products. They will return physical education, hopefully, to the school curriculum. The idea that kids in elementary school no longer have to spend you know, 45 minutes or whatever, five days a week doing something physically active. That's a tragedy that it's during those formative years that kids learn to appreciate daily exercise, which is a core component of good health. It cannot be done with diet alone. And we've got to get back to some of those basics. And those things, by the way, are largely free. They don't cost Americans a lot of money.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great point. Steve, your thoughts on all of that and what we might see? Again, lots of changes. I've heard Dr. Kelly and some of you talk about some of those changes that hopefully we'll see coming out of HHS. But I, for one, I hope that, A, we get some of these pharmaceutical ads off of the air and, by the way, replace them with some of this educational stuff that we're talking about right now.
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Yeah, I have two or three things that I tend to follow fairly closely, John. One is you cannot ask a person to replace a habit. with a dramatic change. So if you eat M&Ms every day at 10 a.m. in the morning as a snack, you know, and a nutritionist says, I want you eating broccoli, it's too dramatic of a change. So it has to be, you know, a process you go through. The second thing is take out all the toxins, right? I mean, I think Kelly's right about that. I mean, if you get all the toxins out and I'm still eating food that isn't necessarily great for me, at least I'm not getting bad food and toxins to go with it. And the third thing is There are a couple of simple metrics, you know, 10,000 steps today, actually 8,000 steps. You know, you shorten all-cause mortality by like 40%. If you can sit on the floor and get up off the floor without using your hands, that level of flexibility, you live 60%, you know, all-cause mortality goes away. I mean, there's lots of things like that. Just give us the simple stuff and don't expect a miracle. And I think people will be incentivized, but make food toxin-free and not quite as bad for us, and we'll see it happen.
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A few minutes left here, Dr. Kelly. I'll give you the floor on this one because with all of what's happening right now with Robert Kennedy Jr., the left, of course, has already been unhinged. I can already feel their unhingeness in the additional cuts that are now going to happen out of that. And I can already hear the people out there, oh, there's just no way we can handle things. Nobody will be healthy again. There's no way we can run things with that less staff and on and on and on. I mean, I guess my question is, how do they fight against all of this left nonsense that keeps coming out?
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They fight with results. It's going to be results. They're going to have to show. I have no question they can do it. The amount, the bloated, you know, administration that's happening in these agencies has been going on for decades. I think cutting it out and then proving results that they start to deliver on some of these things. If we start to see true, you know, reductions, even a fraction of a point of reduction in the rates of obesity, for example, among school children. You know, the fact that We've got 40% of adolescents are pre-diabetic in the United States. Wow. Forty. Four out of ten. We can't sustain that. So if they could make some changes in over a two- or three-year period, say it's not 40% anymore, it's 30% or 35%. Certainly horrific numbers still, but it's going to be results-driven, John. They're going to have to prove that with fewer people they can spend less money and do more. And I think it's possible. I think this is exactly, Robert Kennedy Jr., if anybody's the one to do it, and along with the cuts that Elon Musk is making, I think they can show better results for less money.
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Steve, you've been in the corporate world for a long time. I've run small businesses my entire adult life. The reality is I for one know that in a lot of cases, despite what people might think, you can actually get more with less because you become more efficient. Your thoughts on that?
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What do you mean get more with less in that context, John?
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Less people getting more work done because in some cases, more people just adds to the convolution of what's going on. And in a lot of cases in business, you can get more productivity and more done with less people.
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Well, you can. I mean, I think there's a tipping point on everything, right? Of course. I mean, you know, like if you walk into a car rental place these days and they got one person working and 27 people in line, you know, more people doesn't make it worse. They make it better because they can do that. Right. Right. I mean, the problem is with. systems that are inefficient.
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Well, but really quick, I'm going to go back to your example really quick before we move on. On the same token, if there's six checkout lanes there, and all of a sudden there's 24 people there that are all trying to do the same thing, that's an example of too many people make it worse.
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Yeah, in fact, I'll give you a clinical example. We just did a study at a hospital in New England. Eight cardiologists come in on the same day. There are five exam rooms. They are far worse off getting patients through the process that day than the day that they have four cardiologists in five exam rooms. So, yeah, there's that type of scenario. The problem with the government is that there's just not enough money when you have these kind of deficits to do the training, the implementation, all the things we really need to do to make this government run efficiently, and medicine as well. Medicine is horribly inefficient in so many ways. There are too many people, but there are too many people because we haven't changed the culture or the processes to fix it.
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I'll leave it at that. We can continue this on next week. Dr. Kelly, victory as always. Thank you for your time. It always flies by.
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Thanks for having me. Look forward to it next week.
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I appreciate it. Steve, you as well. Appreciate you, man. Hope you feel better. I do too, John, and it's good to be with you every week. All right, man. Appreciate you very much. Veteran Windows and Doors up next. 35% off if you buy up to three windows. If you do four windows or more, it's 40% off free labor on both of those deals. Go to klzradio.com.
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Prepare for a spirited discussion as Mike tackles the ongoing debate about defunding NPR and PBS. With taxpayer concerns at the forefront, he questions the necessity of public funding for media outlets with clear political biases. Listen in as listeners join the discussion, bringing their passion and opinions on this divisive topic. Amidst the debate, Mike doesn't miss highlighting his ongoing fundraising campaign to support struggling communities through the trusted charity, Food for the Poor.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, here's Mike Deller.
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Yesterday, I asked this audience how much time you want to spend on Signalgate. And you all said nada, nunca, nine. We are not going to be giving the Democrats their Christmas present. But I am going to put it in the proper context. And believe me, we're not going to take calls. Well, I don't want to not take calls, but you know what I mean. We're not going to waste a bunch of time giving the Trump opponents the victory that they so desperately yearn for. They think they got it. We got him now. Oh, boy. We got him now. The Atlantic editor heard a call about Yemen. That's it. It's all over now. And they're all thumping their chests. And they're squeaking and shrieking and hollering. And they want Pete Hegseth's, you know, head over the mantle. They want Mike Waltz's scalp. They want Trump. Well, Trump should resign. Actually, that's what should happen. I'm now officially calling on Donald Trump to resign because his national security team used a Signal app and somehow the editor of The Atlantic got invited in. I think the president himself needs to step down. Look, I've been thinking a lot about this. I really am disappointed and shocked. I'm shocked. I'm positively shocked at the behavior of the Trump administration. They're destroying democracy. It's over. I mean, it's completely shattered. This country is over. We are living through times that are a million times worse than Pearl Harbor, than 9-11, than anything. The bubonic plague, it's terrible. And it's time for Donald Trump to go. Now, you know, if I could be on MSNBC, and that audience, I guess, would think that's normal. That's what passes for normal discourse. So I'm just going to play one clip and then move on. Because, again, I'm tired of... fake ginned up controversies when you know how what a bad shape the democrats are in but we better be careful about something because they're trying to claw back and there's a couple of special elections where maga is staying home you're not showing up Trump supporters and Republicans and right of center, even left of center people who are tired of the status quo, they're not showing up. Race in Pennsylvania. Now, it's Pennsylvania, and I get it. I get it. Pennsylvania, it's like sometimes there's something in the water in that beautiful commonwealth. So once again, a Democrat has won a race that the Republican, I would have thought, would have won. Now they're worried about Florida. And it's only because people aren't showing up. It's like, well, we got what we wanted on November 5th, and now the job is over. It is not. It is not over. Shake yourself. Show up. You've got to vote. It doesn't end now because you're going to put us on a collision course if you keep giving Democrats the victories that they desperately need right now because they're lost in the wilderness. I heard Kurt Schlichter today. I heard him on Chris DeGaulle's show. We had Kurt on the other day, but Kurt this morning was on fire. And we've got to find the clip. Christian, see if you can find the clip of Michael Corleone. I think it was Michael, not Don Corleone, was in an interaction with a politician. And the politician wanted to know, what will you give us as a tit-for-tat or as an exchange or as a, you know, what will you give us? And Michael Corleone's response was, nothing. I give you nothing. Well, that's what Kurt was saying about this Signalgate scandal. Trump shouldn't fire anybody. Don't give them what they want. Deal with it internally. Slap somebody on the wrist and move on. Give them nothing. They deserve nothing. All they want is to tear down this administration that has had two months of epic, epic success. But let me give you 39 seconds, and this is the only 39 seconds I will devote to Signalgate. I give you Greg Gutfeld from Fox News.
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Trump is more popular now than ever because people have good faith in his aims. And maybe perhaps, you know, there'll be mistakes along the way. But the Signal app story, it's the kids menu in the restaurant. The adults come in there. You know, they're going to have sushi and a T-bone. What do they get for the kids? The media, their God, they got to eat to the chicken fingers.
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The signal story is the chicken fingers on the menu. Here, give it to the brat so he won't throw a tantrum. They're going to have this story for another day or so, and then they're going to find something else, and it's always going to be about the process because the aims are too good. Perfect.
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Perfect. That's it. Now, I'm not comfortable telling you not to call me. I mean, instinctively, I want you to call me here in the Relief Factor studios. We walk in here every day committed to you, this audience. This audience that, by the way, has donated over $125,000 to our Food for the Poor campaign to feed starving children in some of the poorest places in the world. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Wow, I'm so blessed to be surrounded by such wonderful people. I'm just honored beyond words. The campaign ends tomorrow. MikeOnline.com if you want to contribute. Thank you so much for supporting this Christian ministry, Food for the Poor. So it's a joy to walk into this audience and to deal with all this stuff that we deal with day after day after day. So look, again, since it's... counterintuitive for me to say don't call. Maybe this is the segment where we'll say if you want to respond in any way about the so-called signal gate, now's your chance. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Again, I don't want to belabor this. I'm with you. Yesterday I asked this audience, do you want to spend any time? No, no, move on, move on. Everybody said move on, move on, move on. I'm willing to move on, but I don't like telling you not to call me. I want to make sure I'm not leaving anybody out. Because everybody's welcome. The Mike Gallagher Show is a big tent. So give me a call if you want to chime in for a couple of minutes on Signalgate. Either agreeing with Greg, maybe. Is he right? Are you one of those Republicans deeply concerned about the Signal app? Oh, no. Incidentally, if there was any classified information in that chat, it's against the law to release classified information. Yesterday, The Atlantic released it all, so I guess they confirmed there was no classified material in the chat. Thank you, Atlantic. But that's it. That's all I'm saying. We'll see what you want to say. And again, if you call, you call. If you don't, you don't. And we'll move on. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Welcome in. I'm moving out. I'm moving out. I'm moving out. I just got the daily report for our Food for the Poor campaign. Look, if the new kid on the block, Chris DeGaulle, beats us in the campaign, I'm in big trouble. I'm giving up. You can't let that happen. If you like what we do, because we're all doing this together, this Food for the Poor campaign, I'm going to give you the phone number that I didn't give you a moment ago. I just need 400 people to pop in 100 bucks. Let's get 100 people today to donate $100. Food for the Poor. This is what we do. We do this a few times a year. And here's the phone number that I left out before. If you want to make a phone call, have your credit card standing by and call Food for the Poor. 844-860-HOPE. That's 844-860-4673. Or you can go to mikeonline.com, click on that banner at the top of the page, or just text the keyword food to 800-655-MIKE, and we'll send you back the link. And thank you, thank you, thank you for supporting our Food for the Poor campaign. Come on, let's get there. Come on, 400 people. Wouldn't it be amazing? How astounding would it be if I could touch the hearts of 400 people, maybe even you, Ed, in Naples? Instead of being grumpy at me, feed starving children. Clothe the naked. Feed the hungry. Partner with the Christian ministry. All I need is 400 people to donate 100 bucks, and we're there. We've got our goal. Maybe we could do it today. Go to mikeonline.com, click on the banner, or call 844-860-HOPE. Call 844-860-4673. However you reach out, I do hope you'll join me as folks just like you all over America step up to help our friends at the Christian nonprofit international relief organization, Food for the Poor. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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The Mike Gallagher Show.
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Would you be interested in defunding and taking away taxpayer dollars to NPR and PBS?
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Well, I would love to do that. I think it's very unfair. It's been very biased for the whole group. The kind of money that's being wasted, and it's a very biased view. You know that better than anybody. And I'd be honored to see it end.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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And President Trump took to Truth Social last night and said, absolutely, it's time to defund PBS and NPR. And that doesn't mean they go away. Look, I know they do good work. Just like Hollywood cranks out great movies. Apparently with the exception of Snow White. Oh my gosh. Did you see what the son of the producer of Snow White said about the young lady who plays Snow White? The woke, Trump-hating, conservative, despising woman named Rachel Ziegler? Oh my gosh. I'll get into that here in just a moment, but... But look, I appreciate good work, even if I don't agree with the ideology of the people behind it. It only comes down to one thing for me, taxpayer expense. We're broke. This country can't afford to fund programming that details the history of the tsetse fly. Taxpayers should not be asked to pay for ideology that they don't agree with. And I'd say present company included. No taxpayer should fund the Mike Gallagher show. And even if it's a small portion of my budget. President Trump last night demanded that Congress immediately defund National Public Radio and the Public Broadcasting Service. He wrote, Republicans don't miss this opportunity to rid our country of this giant scam, both being arms of the radical left Democrat Party. And, again, let them do what they do. They just have to pay for it themselves, like the rest of us do. See, this hits close to home for me as a years-long broadcaster. I know all about budgets and expenses and revenues. We work hard to earn your trust and get you to support our advertisers, which support this show. A lot of people bristle, oh, you've got advertisers. Of course we've got advertisers. We've got good advertisers, good sponsors. And they fund the programming that you hopefully appreciate. We do things for, we do try to, four times a year or so, a few times a year, we try to do good things for people in need, like the Food for the Poor campaign, where right now you've donated like $125,000 to our $40,000 campaign. That's how big your heart is. That's how you roll. That's what you do. And we're eternally grateful to you. So this is only about taxpayer funding. NPR is going to have to sell more tote bags. And incidentally, here's the dirty little secret about NPR and public broadcasting. They advertise too. They just do it differently. But they do all kinds of ads. Portions of All Things Consider are made possible by a grant from the Ford Foundation. Ford, get your fiesta today. I mean, they do advertising. They do it all. They do advertising. They do donor campaigns, fundraising, buy tote bags, and then they get government assistance. It's wrong. It's wrong. And again, prove me wrong. Tell me why you think one penny of taxpayer money should go to public broadcasting. I mean, I mean it. Theresa, keep a line open. I'll put you to the top of the line. I want to hear an argument made for taxpayer funding of NPR or PBS. I'm not trying to be a provocateur. I want you to tell me why in the world we would pay with all that we're up against, trying to get the wall built, trying to continue to enforce border security, trying to assist our veterans. Give cops a living wage, firefighters, inflation, grocery prices, mortgages, rents, gas prices. With all that we've got in front of us, please make the argument that you think a portion of your taxes should go towards public broadcasting. 800-655-MIKE. And again, we're going to hold a line for you. I want you to make the argument. And I promise, let's have a good faith conversation about why you think any of us should fund public broadcasting. Makes no sense. Joseph is in Pennsylvania. 800-655-MIKE is our number, by the way. 800-655-6453. Joseph, how are you doing today?
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I'm doing fine. Good. You're hitting the nail right on the head, but PBS and NPR? Yeah, right. They're just the tip of the iceberg, which you started listing the ones that need the money, and those two, I don't know how or why taxes are going to them, like you said, but There's a bigger one. I mean, like I said, they're the tip of the iceberg. Now, I have a feeling this is going to set off fireworks. But there are other things going on, like with the space station and other stuff that we're spending billions and trillions of dollars on. that are getting us nowhere.
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Well, I mean, this is the whole point of Doge, Joseph. The whole point of a Department of Government Efficiency is going line by line, page by page, at what taxpayers are funding. And some of it is painful. Look, it's kind of painful for me. I love the arts. I also hate the thought of poor people in other countries losing vaccines. I saw that last night. I think the New York Times reported that there's some far-reaching country that is going to have U.S. taxpayer funding for vaccines taken away. I don't like that. I hate that. That's why we do things like the Food for the Poor campaign and ask you because that's the kind of thing that they provide. But it comes down to what we're going to spend. Can you make an argument intellectually, not with your heart, because I don't want anybody to die. I don't want anybody to be sick. I want to help. Look, we all want to make the world a better place. But explain devoting a portion of the federal budget to providing vaccines for a country on the other side of the world? Do we do it because we're nice guys, we're good people? Okay. Then support a program like Food for the Poor that provides food and vaccines and medical supplies and clothing to poor people on the other side of the world. But taxpayer dollars? Okay. Make the case. I don't quite understand it. And maybe I'm being hard-hearted, and I don't want to do that. I don't want to be cruel. I have that expression, the cruelty is the point, on my brain. I don't want us to be cruel. I want us to be good and honorable and kind. But there's a limit to how kind the United States taxpayer coffers can be. Charles is in Jacksonville, Florida, going to make the case for funding PBS or NPR with our taxpayer dollars. Thanks a lot for joining us today, Charles. How's it going?
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How are you doing, sir? I'm good. I don't care about the NPR, but some of the shows on PBS I do watch, and I was just concerned maybe if the funding goes away, they won't put them on anymore. But do you think they could... fund themselves for the certain shows?
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Well, of course they could. They'd have to. But I mean, let me just analyze what you just said, and I'm not trying to pick on you, but because you like a show on PBS, you want taxpayers who may not like that show to pay for it?
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No, I'm not saying taxpayers. I'm just saying if the funding goes away, those shows will not be on anymore.
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Well, that's right. So you're saying the taxpayers could fund it so that your favorite show on PBS doesn't go away. I mean, I like reruns of... I'm kind of caught in the middle of that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, think about it. You've got to put it in that perspective. There's a lot of shows I like. I'm not going to expect taxpayers to like it. I like The Sopranos. You think taxpayers should fund HBO or Max? Always remember that... Lesson I learned years ago when The Sopranos was a big hit and I said on the air how much I love The Sopranos, a little old lady went out and got cable. She didn't have cable. She got cable and subscribed to HBO just so she could watch The Sopranos because her favorite talk show host loved The Sopranos and she wanted to see the series about a church choir. The Sopranos is most definitely not about a church choir. Now, again, there's a great example. That poor lady probably slumped over when she heard the language and the violence and the story about Tony Soprano and his family. I like Sopranos. She probably certainly didn't like it because she did call in. She said, what is this show about murder and death? I thought it was about a church choir. All right. Now, I'm supposed to expect her to pay a portion of her hard-earned dollars to the Sopranos so it doesn't go away? It doesn't work that way. 16 before the hour portions of our show. Look, this is all about entrepreneurship. This is about making America work. There's a big event coming up May 1st and 2nd. Job Creators Network, they're having their annual gala. And I'm going to be the emcee. It's the annual Freedom Fighters Summit. We'll spend a couple of days discussing pressing issues facing our nation. And look, if you're an entrepreneur, if you own a business, you've got to be here. Because you'll hear from policy minds like Grover Nordquist, Stephen Moore, Kellyanne Conway, Governor Junkin, Kemp. members of the president's cabinet, members of Congress. I'll be there along with other media folks like Trish Regan, Sarah Carter, Hugh Hewitt, Bill Bennett, just added to the roster. Great entertainment, too. Saturday Night Live's Rob Schneider will perform. Lee Greenwood's going to sing. Now, look, I've got an offer for you. And incidentally, best part of all, it's in Savannah, Georgia, one of the most beautiful cities in the world, where you'll have a chance to go golfing, sightseeing. You could tour Savannah to reserve your spot for this one-of-a-kind private event Go to jcn2025summit.com. Remember that website, jcn2025summit.com. If you use the promo code Salem, you'll get a great discount. When you buy one ticket, you'll get the second ticket for 50% off. Limited number of tickets available, only about 150. So go to jcn2025summit.com. Portions of your ticket are tax deductible and support Job Creators Network Foundation. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off, like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Mike Gallagher.
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Now, look, I know this clip has made the rounds. It's a little bit like the young lady on the New York City subway who face planted trying to... steal the red MAGA hat off a guy riding the subway. We ought to do an experiment. Somebody ought to get bold and brave. Who can we throw out there into the world? Christian? It's got to be Christian. I think we've got to have Christian do it. I think Christian should go ride the subway in New York City with a red MAGA hat on. And Eric could take the video. In fact, let me ask these guys if they're willing to do that. Let me put that challenge out there. Gosh, when I'm in a weird mood like this, hold on for your lives. But I am. I'm in a good mood. I've got a lot of stuff going on, a lot of great stuff happening. I'm feeling better than I've felt in a long time. I had allergies, too, this week. Did you notice? Did you hear my voice? I was a little gravelly. Man, I was with Peg and Joey in South Carolina, and we walked the, pardon my language, the damn dogs. Walking those dogs. Walking those two beautiful cocker spaniels is an adventure because they're not exactly from the Martha Stewart school of dog behavior. They're wonderful. Jesse, these dogs are so cool. Simon, they're two of the most beautiful. And Peg and Joey are dog people. Simon... I hope they don't get mad at me talking about this, but is a special needs dog. Simon has some emotional stuff going on. And they have spent a lot of time and money trying to figure out how to try to help Simon. And they look at it, look, Simon's a gift to them. And Simon is a blessing. But Simon will go on, he's like autistic sometimes. They're hard to describe. I've never seen a dog do this. All of a sudden, Simon will go into the corner, stare at the corner, and start growling for five minutes and barking at the corner, just staring. It's almost like Simon's seeing ghosts. I don't want to scare Peg, but that's what it almost feels like. And I've seen these meltdowns. Peggy calls them the meltdowns. And Simon has meltdowns. Beautiful black cocker spaniel. Jesse is like a coffee-colored, caramel-colored cocker, and they're the sweetest dogs in the world, and they are the Hudson's babies. So we went for a walk. Peggy said, let's go for a walk. Well, the wind was blowing and the wind was blowing. It was a windy day at Lake Kiwi over the weekend. And I knew it. I knew it was going to happen. I thought, crap. And sure enough, I felt it by Monday. The allergies kicked in. Whenever I get a bunch of wind like that, I start getting sick from the allergies. And you ought to see my allergy regimen. Holy moly. I got nasal sprays. I got Zyrtec. I've got Singular every day for my life. Anyway, I digress. I'm in a good mood. I'm in a weird mood. Eric and Kristen, what would you guys think after the video of the woman? I've seen it on Fox a million times. Kristen, have you seen this video? This lady starts yelling at a guy who's got a MAGA hat on on the subway. Now, first of all, what in the heck is she doing caring about what a guy wears on his head? But, Kristen, did you see that video of her faceplanting? Yes, I did. I mean, did you see it? Go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did you see the version with the chariots of fire music?
SPEAKER 13 :
Do we have video of Christian, guys?
SPEAKER 10 :
Hold on. Sorry.
SPEAKER 13 :
Can you bring yourself up? There you go.
SPEAKER 10 :
I need to keep doing my day job. I'm sorry about that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and they did the chariots of fire because she's running after him, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, yeah, and she just face plants, and then there's all the edits of her sliding up through the skyline. It's hilarious.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's hysterical, and she falls right on her face. What is she doing trying to change? So would you be willing? I'll bet you'd be willing to ride the subways with a MAGA hat on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, if your audience could be as generous to the GoFundMe after I get some hospital bills as they are the food for the poor, maybe we can make it happen, America.
SPEAKER 13 :
That would be a definite workers' comp claim.
SPEAKER 10 :
You might have Phil Boyce calling you real quick.
SPEAKER 13 :
Pivot over to Eric, and let me find out from Eric if he'd be willing to be the cameraman. And Eric, I mean, because I think that might be a good project. You're the cameraman and the sound man. Yeah. And you film Christian on a New York City subway with his MAGA hat on. What do you think?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think that I would not want to be either Daniel Penny or Jordan Neely in this situation. I want to keep my head down and not look at anyone on the subway. I do not need to get into fights on the subway because I won't be here for very long. I'll either be in jail or you'll be mourning me.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the dirty little secret about you is you're like beyond a black belt, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
What's beyond a black belt? A purple belt?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I'm a second-degree black belt.
SPEAKER 13 :
A gold belt? What are you? Bronze belt?
SPEAKER 16 :
I have many belts.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right. But you're a second-degree black belt?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Yeah. That's very impressive.
SPEAKER 16 :
That doesn't mean I want to go out and fight people. It really, really doesn't. In fact, that's worse. I mean, I'll go to jail right away.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right. So I'll take that as both a tepid maybe from you and from Christian about running around on the subways with a MAGA hat on. But this wasn't tepid. I've got to play the exchange between – do we play Brandon Gill? I'm losing track. Do we do that this half hour? Of course, I love this, too. Here's Seth in Michigan saying, we've got to move on from the Signal League. Well, I'm moving. How can I move on when you're calling me telling me to move on? What do you want me to do? You want me to take your call to say let's move on from what you don't want to move on from? These are the challenges I have. This is what I'm up against. This is what I'm up against. 800-655-MIKE. John in Pittsburgh, quickly, let's talk a little bit about PBS, NPR, and whether taxpayers should fund it. Because Trump is right. We need to defund NPR, PBS. That doesn't mean they go away. Just let them figure out how to pay for it. Hey, John.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, Mike. Thanks for taking my call. You bet. Hey, I just wanted to let you know, me and my wife, we're regular contributors to our local PBS station. Pittsburgh station, they do a lot of cooking shows on there. But I got to a point about 10 years ago where I was really questioning where the money was and where it was going. And I looked up the CEO or the president of our local organization. He was making $209,000 a year. How much? $209,000 a year. Okay. And the vice president was making $184,000 a year. I'd like to know what the lady, did you see the grilling that Brendan Gill gave the head of NPR yesterday? Yes, and I heard it this morning on your show, yes. I mean, I'd like to know what she makes. Tracy, she's she's probably in the millions. And that's the problem. I mean, even with the home show that you were talking about. Right. They get all kinds of money from Home Depot and the other people that support that show. None of the money that's given to them from the government runs that show.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's all the donations they get from Home Depot because the gentlemen on there, they only use Home Depot buckets and tools and everything. So it's a big promotion for Home Depot.
SPEAKER 13 :
For Home Depot, and that's okay. We like doing that kind of stuff. That's called synergy. That's called partnerships, branding, advertising. But remember... NPR and PBS, they do it too. Check out Congressman Pat Fallon, also a congressman from Texas, grilling the NPR CEO about the way NPR covered the Hunter Biden laptop story.
SPEAKER 08 :
Ms. Maher, I'm sure you're aware that Hunter Biden had a laptop.
SPEAKER 01 :
I am, sir, yes. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And there were many stories written about said laptop.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
And in 2020, unfortunately, NPR's managing editor for news refused to cover the story and he branded it a, quote, waste of time. Not a real story and a distraction. And instead, unfortunately, of NPR investigating, they ran a puff piece that led with experts say attack on Hunter Biden addiction deepens stigma for millions. It's unfortunate that NPR ignored the Hunter Biden laptop story, but y'all did talk quite a bit about the debunked Russia collusion. Do you know how many times NPR interviewed Adam Schiff?
SPEAKER 01 :
Congressman, I would love to say that we actually believe we made a mistake on the Hunter Biden laptop story.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I appreciate that. Thank you. How many times did y'all interview Adam Schiff about the Russia collusion?
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm sorry. Sorry, I don't have that number.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was 25 times. You know how many times NPR interviewed chairman of this committee, Oversight Committee, Jamie Comer, about the Biden impeachment inquiry for the Hunter Biden tax evasion and illicit business dealings of the Biden family? I'm sorry, sir. I don't know. I believe that's zero. So it's 25 to zero. Ms. Kerger, you're aware there's a political spectrum. It goes all the way from the far right to the far left and everywhere in between. Would it trouble you to hear that for six months there was an analysis done on PBS's NewsHour from June to November of 2023? where they found that far right was that term was used 162 times and far left was only used six times do you find that troubling i i don't know the study that you're referring to and i'd love i'd be very interested in seeing it and understanding how they
SPEAKER 01 :
came up with those numbers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Media Research Center did a six-month analysis, and it's not how you find it. You say far right, it's terms.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, this went on all day long. It was amazing. And again, it comes down to a real simple thing. There's an audience for NPR. There's an audience for PBS. No problem. There's no stomach for taxpayers funding any of it whatsoever. And again, I've been asking all day, prove me wrong. 800-655-MIKE. Spring is here, and my pillow is ready to meet the moment with the Spring Sheet Sale. Got to be careful with the way I say that. The Spring Sheet Sale. Say that three times fast. You know the Giza Dream Sheets that I've been telling you about? These and the percale sheets, holy cow, check out this offer. Just in time for spring, you can get your very own set of Queen Giza Dream bed sheets from MyPillow. You'll save 50% or more. You can get the queen size. Queen-sized Giza Dream or percale bed sheets for as low as $29.98 with the promo code MikeG. That's an extraordinary offer. And when you go to the website, check out the pillows, the slippers, the doggy beds, the loungewear. and more. MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. Click on that box, and then with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Mike Gallagher. I've got so much going on right now in terms of my stupid life. I've got something going on. Well, I'll tell you what it is. I've got the roof of my condo in the hallway has little faint spots, like about four inches in diameter. There's two of them. And they're near the HVAC unit. And I just had the ceiling painted like six months ago. And I've got some people coming to the condo this weekend, and I want it to look nice. You can't find a painter in Florida. You just can't. Because the problem is, this is evidently, these are spots that are from condensation. There's no leak. There's never been a leak in that roof. The building came in, the building manager, no, no, there's no leak. These are just spots. I mean, it's bleeding through the white ceiling paint. So in order to stop that, you've got to get like a primer. First, you've got to spray on the primer. It's got to dry. Then you've got to do it again, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you repaint it. Well, I don't know how to do any of that. I'm so bad. I'm not entirely sure which end of the brush you hold when you paint. Do you hold the feathery part? I think you do. And then you paint with the wooden part. And so I don't know what I'm doing. And I need a painter. I went to Sherwin-Williams. The guy just laughed. He said, there's no painters. He said, are you kidding me? After the hurricane? There's nothing. There's no way. So if we have a painter, maybe you call me or text me or email me and give me your number so we'll FaceTime. And you can show me when I get my butt up on a ladder and try to do this. Because I have no idea. I'm sure I'll ruin this ceiling. And the worst part is it's a hallway that's all part of the living room and there's no break. So I'm afraid I'm going to discolor the hallway paint and it's all going to look different and look terrible. It's going to turn into a house of horrors. I'm going to walk in. I'm going to see those spots. And every time I walk in there, I cringe. It looks so bad. And I hate stuff like that. But because of the hurricanes... There are zero painters that have any availability, especially for a small job like that. I told the Sherwin-Williams guy, I said, there's nobody? I said, I'll be generous. Nope, nobody available. Speaking of hurricanes and property damage, did you hear how many people, how many homes have gotten permits to to rebuild their homes after the destruction from the wildfires in Southern California. Now, obviously, thousands of people lost their homes. Thousands of people lost their property. Terrible damage. And the city of Los Angeles insists that they've got to issue all of these onerous permits you've got to go through miles of government tape to rebuild your own home. You want to know to date how many permits have been issued from the wildfires. In fact, let me give you, let's do a little quiz. If you don't know and you want to guess, call me. But you've got to not know the answer. 800-655-MIKE. We all saw the coverage of the devastating wildfires in California, right? We all saw that. There is reporting now, and don't Google it and call me. Just be honest and call me. It's been over two months now since the deadly Palisades fire. Guess how many permits have been issued so far to rebuild? or to fix the problem. Give me a call if you don't know the answer, and give me a guess. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Portions of our show, while I'm waiting for your calls, I want to remind you about our sponsor, Dean Owen, CPA. This guy and I have been working a lot together in the last few weeks. I am overwhelmed by his expertise, his knowledge, his strategy, Dean and his team specialize in helping you and your business or just families reduce their tax burden and build financial and tax plans that are aligned with your goals and your values. You know, when you work with somebody like a CPA or a financial planner, you want somebody who represents your values, right? Why work with somebody who doesn't share your values? Well, Dean does. He's a combat vet. He's a very, very trusted voice in this space. And I'm just going to make it clear to you, my CPA can be your CPA. Call Dean today, 270-554-0720. Write that number down, 270-554-0720. That's 270-554-0720. Or you can visit owencpa.com, owencpa.com. Let's take a guess. Let me give Larry in North Carolina a chance to take a guess. All right, Larry, it's been two months since the devastating wildfires, all the loss of property, the terrible destruction of these fires. Guess how many permits the city of Los Angeles has issued to date?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, first of all, let me tell you, I love your show. I listen to it every day. Thank you. And God bless you for what you do for those kids in El Salvador.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you, Blair.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're very kind. Anyway, I'm going to say 38.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's a good guess. That's not a terrible guess because that's low. But, you know, maybe with bureaucracy and what Democrats do with tying everybody up. All right, 38.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, good deal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hey, have a good day, Mike. You too. Thank you. Well, I was going to give you... Okay, thank you very much for your kind words, and I appreciate your support very much. Nope, not 38. Ready for this? Four. Four. They have issued four permits. People in Los Angeles cannot get through the red tape. It's a disaster. It is a nightmare. And people are struggling. And this is what Democrat leadership gives you. Real simple. This is what, when Trump talks about deregulation, this is what he means. When we talk about deregulating, this is what is at stake. I was in a neighborhood yesterday looking at a condo and a guy walked by with a FEMA jacket on. And I looked at him and I thought, okay, what are you guys doing to help people? And I know FEMA, there's a lot of good people. Not everybody in the government is bad. But the bureaucracy of Democrat-led communities is strangling people. Ordinary, hardworking, taxpaying Americans. Four, four permits were issued so far, according to National Review. Check it. Look it up. Look it up. People are giving me advice I should go to Thumbtack. So that's good. I'll go to Thumbtack and invite Jeffrey Dahmer to come in and paint my ceiling. He'll be carrying my head around in a bowling bag. after he paints my ceiling. That's all I need. I'll get some guy, some Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris-loving painter. I'll go online and find a nutcase to paint my ceiling. He'll put my skin on his lampshades. I mean, that'll be the end of me. Don't forget the Food for the Poor campaign, our final day tomorrow, and you're just astounding. About $120,000, $425,000, $40,000 goal. A few times a year we come to you and humbly ask you to help those in need, and you did it in a big way. I will always be grateful to the generous, giving, loving people who support this show and support our campaigns. Food for the Poor is a beautiful Christian ministry. You can go to MikeOnline.com to make a donation, whatever you can afford. Thank you. Don't forget, $1,000 or more tax-deductible donation. I'll call you personally to thank you, and we'll have a nice chat, and we'll solve all the world's problems together. MikeOnline.com to donate. Thanks for being a part of our day, and we're glad to have been a part of yours. Let's do it again tomorrow. Have a great Thursday. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
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