
Join Angie Austin in this heartwarming episode of The Good News as she talks about the power of gratitude and innovations aimed at fostering family connections through shared gratitude lists. Angie also explores how PETA's Teach Kind Science initiative is transforming education by replacing traditional dissection with humane alternatives, thereby uplifting student engagement without compromising ethical values. Dive into the transformative power these initiatives hold for personal and educational spheres.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hello there, Angie Austin here with The Good News. I came across something kind of cool today and I thought I'd discuss it with you. You know how Jim Stovall, you know, our frequent guest of the last decade, talks about the gratitude list and when he was going blind, he would go to his grandmother, you and say he wanted to talk to her about some of the things he was upset about. And she said, I am here to hear all of your complaints. I just want you to go take about five minutes and do your golden list, which is the 10 things that you're grateful for, and come back and we'll go over all your complaints. And he said after he did that, he really didn't have complaints because he realized how blessed he was. And that's the same grandmother that, by the way, she didn't understand how eyes and sight work And she wanted to actually give her eyes to him after she watched the flowers bloom one more spring. She's like, I just want to see one more spring. And then I'm going to let them transplant my eyes into you. And he's like, Grandma, it doesn't work that way. But that's how much she loved him. But that gratitude list, I'm looking for an app right now. And I came across one, but it was too expensive, I thought, for an app. But it's a family gratitude sharing app where each day you do like three things you're grateful for, thankful for. And then it shares it with the rest of the family. And I thought, what a cool thing. So I'm looking for that. If you find it, go to my website, AngieAustin.org. If you find one that's not like $80 a year, I just thought like 80 bucks, like we could just text each other. But I like the app idea because it gives you a reminder. And then I can see like what the kids are thankful for too. And maybe even see like include something like that there also may be concerned about or need help with or worried about, et cetera. I just thought that would be kind of a cool thing to share as a family to kind of keep us connected. I'm sure many of you have the family text threads like we have, where you share all kinds of information on your family text threads. I get a kick out of that. Now, my son, he's funny because he's so busy with his business, his job and school. And he does sometimes three events a week, his own events for his own business. And it's a lot of setup with all of that vintage clothing and setting up racks and hauling the clothing across town and setting up on campus or setting up at a fraternity. Anyway, he's not always on top of what we send. But if I send him texts myself just to him, he definitely responds. But the family text story, I just like like sharing all that info and keeping that going. We do it with grandma. We have one with grandma and grandpa too, but it's like a different one. All right, so just an idea to share your family gratitude list every day. Well, I'm grateful for this. My pets are really animal people here on The Good News with Angie Austin. I've got the five pets myself, and I've done a lot of work with PETA. And you may remember, maybe about a year ago, I talked with them about their Teach Kind Science program. And they launched this kind of frog and it's a brand new kind of frog model that is more pleasant to use and it's ethically dissectable. So the kids aren't like traumatized by having to, you know, you know, dissect an animal and it's made out of silicone. So it's very lifelike and it has all the parts, et cetera. And so it's replacing the millions of living frogs taken directly from their pond and river in nature each year and And it's designed by teachers for teachers, the Kind Frog. And so we want to check in and see how this Kind Science program is going, Teach Kind Science program is going. And so joining us is Samantha Crowe, Associate Director of Science Education for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, PETA. Welcome, Samantha.
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Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I'm super excited about the Kind Frog and what a wonderful introduction.
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Let's talk a little bit about Teach Kind's pilot program launched last year. Can you describe how it's gone, the difference between this new method and the old traditional method of dissection?
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Yeah, you know, animal dissection support is waning, and rightly so. Today's students can explore animal anatomy without harming a single animal, thanks to TeachKindScience's pilot program. So we donate materials to teachers and schools to replace animal dissection, thereby sparing the animals from the dissection tray and also improving student engagement. And that's really the name of the game, animal-free dissection. It can look a lot like animal dissection in the case of the kind frog. It's a one-to-one replacement. But the student engagement increases. There's no formaldehyde. And, of course, it's shelf-stable.
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You know what I think is so neat about PETA and, you know, what you all do? A lot of people have careers that don't directly relate, you know, to their experience. Like, you might move on and kind of move up the ladder, and all of a sudden, like, once I was in insurance, so I'm a news anchor, so I was making good money, but I was early in my career selling insurance, which had nothing to do with my background. And I love it that you're a former biology instructor. Well, I understand you use your position to practice what you preach by teaching your You know, not working with animal specimens. So I love that you have such a passion for animals and that you're able to incorporate into what you do, but also helping others now to do what you do in a humane way.
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Absolutely. You know, when I was teaching college bio, I had students like purposely seek out my course section because I'd earned the reputation of not dissecting animals. And these were students who were, you know, pre-nursing students. And anatomy and physiology is a really big course to get through to get into nursing school. And, you know, we don't want to keep science away from ethical and compassionate students, right? So we want to make sure that what we're doing in the classroom as educators includes everyone, that it is inclusive learning and it doesn't distract anyone or desensitize them or take away their excitement for animals.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm curious because I've learned so much from my interviews with you, Tita. your organization over the last year, some things that I had no idea were even allowed in terms of animals and testing and monkeys in particular that I learned about recently. But where do the animals that are used for dissection, for instance, where do they come from and how many are dissected each year?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's a great question. So animals used for classroom dissection number in the millions. Every single year, more than 10 million animals are killed for it. And these animals come from the wild. So frogs and other sea animals are stolen from their homes. We have piglets and other animal organs that come from slaughterhouses. And, of course, these animals don't live full lives. You know, their lives are stolen from them for what amounts to a very ineffective and brief classroom lesson.
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Now, I have a question because that's a huge number, by the way, of animals taken for dissection. kind frog as replacing millions of living frogs. Kind of explain how it works or how cool it is and what the teachers and kids think of it since they've been able to use it.
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Oh, my favorite topic. So if you imagine what traditional animal or frog dissection looks like, you know, you have the dissection tray, the tools, all the safety equipment, you've got your goggles and your glasses or your gloves and your lab coat on and everything. And then. Just swap out that preserved, very, very toxic smelling frog and replace it with a kind frog. It's just that simple. So teachers can use their existing lessons with the kind frog instead of dissecting real frogs. Or we will provide a free lesson plan for teachers. We have worksheets available online that, again, are completely free. And it's such an easy way to get teachers excited about animal-free without having to really change much of anything in their classroom practices.
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And when it comes to, you know, the old-school way of actually dissecting the animal, I can imagine a lot of animal lovers or people in general would be maybe dissuaded from taking that class or even... In some cases, maybe getting involved in the sciences. Maybe they would avoid a medical career or a vet career or a research career. So is there a reason? And do you believe that animal dissection does steer people away from some of the sciences?
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Yes, I do, because it absolutely does. Studies show that forcing students to cut apart animals can actually deter them from pursuing careers in science. And not only do we know this, we hear from these students. PETA hears from high school and college students every single day who are struggling to opt out of a cruel lesson and advocate for themselves to get a humane, animal-free experience. So these students are being told to drop the class or, oh, just do it anyway, or you can, you know, write a 10-page paper. And, you know, that's really not fair because these students want to learn, and they're interested in the sciences already. But by putting them off and sort of gatekeeping that learning, you know, we are dissuading them, and we absolutely – It just boggles my mind that we even force students to do this. I have a question about that.
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Do parents and students, do they have any rights or any recourse if they are told that they have to dissect an actual animal, not a kind frog, and are being told they must? Do they have rights in that arena? Yeah.
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Thankfully, yes. So there are hundreds of districts nationwide that have dissection choice policies, and these policies allow students to opt out of animal dissection and instead be provided with an animal-free method. But even if the state or district wants doesn't have a policy, you know, like we described, we encourage parents and teachers, pardon me, parents and students to start talking with the teacher. And that's the first step, right? Talk to them. They need to hear why students don't want to dissect animals and why importantly, and they would, would absolutely love if we would love if you could share the information about our pilot program with those teachers that you're trying to get, you know, students are trying to opt out of animal dissection and, Tell them about the pilot program, the Kind Frog, and how they can get all these resources for free. Okay, so give us that info, but I still have another couple of questions for you.
SPEAKER 06 :
So how do we get the Kind Frog for free and get the information?
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Sure. So teachers can sign up for this year's pilot program for free non-animal anatomy resources at teachkind.org. And students can check out PETA2.com. That's the number two dot com for help navigating a lack of vegan food at the cafeteria or opting out of animal dissection.
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Now, when it comes to the Humane Kind Education Division program, and teach kind science and the kind frog. Is there anything else that's cool like this that you're doing or you're thinking of introducing or that you've already introduced that we might be interested in hearing about?
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Oh, so we are going to continue with the pilot program again next year. We are hoping to reach every single state in the U.S. with kind frogs and animal free methods. So that's our goal for the future. And we this year, I believe we have 40 of the 50 U.S. states that we have pilot teachers in. So that is very exciting and encouraging. And yeah, we're going to keep doing that.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's really cool. I'm shocked, actually, that it's that many states. I'm good for you guys. That's impressive. All right. I have such a cool job that over the last 30 years, I've been able to interview so many interesting people. And one of my favorite questions that I get to ask people like you when I'm really interested in what you do is, where did this start, your passion for animals and for what you do? And we've got a couple of minutes, so just kind of go back. Was this your family? Did it start after school, your childhood? When?
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Oh, wow. That's a wonderful question. So I've always been interested in biology, and I remember I have a very vivid memory of high school biology and dissecting animals. There was a fish who we were dissecting, and I just remember... feeling trapped, like I didn't want to do it, but I couldn't articulate that either to the teacher or even to myself. I didn't understand that. So fast forward then to me getting my graduate degree in biology without harming any animals, I might note. And then I started teaching. And from there, I applied at PETA and I was hired and I'm so excited because that was 15 years ago. And at PETA, my focus has been replacing animal dissection. And what I really, I wake up every morning asking myself this question, how can we end animal dissection in schools? And that's what I'll leave you with.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is so cool. I just thanks for sharing that with us. And thanks for all you're doing for animals and for others. I really appreciate it. It's always fun to get to talk about your program.
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Thank you so much.
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hello there angie austin here with the good news the good news is i wanted to talk about these three thinking errors that can drain a lot of like our energy and a lot out of our lives so the good news is we'll learn how to not drain the energy out of our lives and i love this first one because my one of my kids um has had some issues with confidence when it comes to their sport And I just love this. It says, number one, so this is the thinking error, okay? Thinking we need to feel more confident before taking the next step. And I think that applies to a lot of us. Like we wait till we have like full confidence. And a lot of people misinterpret how confidence works. And by the way, this is from my favorite website for this kind of info, Mark and Angel. A lot of people think confidence is something they have to have before they can, you know, really do their best. So they wait until they feel more confident before taking the next step. But waiting around, is it really confidence building? I think it sometimes can take away our confidence and like raise our fear level, you know, so. I love the idea that you can really take that first step before you 100 percent feel confident, because part of what raises your confidence is like the falling down and maybe failing and then restarting again or just like going for it and succeeding, you know, and making it. And I think in her case, like I was telling her the other day, I'm like, well, you have nothing to lose. You know, I mean, you know, in terms of, you know, playing your best, you're going to make this team or this team. So if you don't try, you're going to make team B. And if you do try, you're going to make team A or team B. So what do you have to lose? So worst case scenario, you end up on team B. And if you don't give it a shot, you're going to end up on that one anyway. But if you want to make the best team, you have to just go for it, even if you don't feel your confidence level is there yet. What do I know? You know, I never did well at sports, but I achieved like in the academic world. That's where I like Excel. That's where I put my energy. So I can't completely relate to my kids when it comes to their athletics. But I did put my energy and my competitive nature into something else that wasn't, you know, a physical sport kind of thing. OK, so these are ways of thinking that can add more energy to our lives, not waiting to feel confident before you do something. Number two, the thinking you're getting caught up. in big thinking paralysis. Just as you don't need more confidence to take the smallest next step forward, you don't need more and more planning and overthinking. Stephen King once said, the amateurs sit and wait for inspiration. The rest of us just get up and go to work. Oh, I love that. Stephen King said, amateurs sit around and wait for inspiration. The rest of us just get up and go to work. And Mark and Angel, Mark says he has that quote taped up in his office. The rest of us just get up and go to work. Okay, number three. This is something like thinking paralysis. Thinking we can still make it in unhealthy and unsupportive environments. Oh, my goodness. This reminds me of one of my really good friends that has been six months in a relationship that is, I mean, when I say not working, like, I can't even tell you how badly it's not working. And I'm like, you just have to, like, make a decision because it's You know, this isn't working. And so how much longer are you going to let it not work in this unhealthy, unsupportive environment? And especially if like alcohol is involved and destructive, you know, talk to you, you know, talking you down, belittling you and drinking that that that relationship is never going to work. I would tell my kids I'm like alcohol can ruin families and relationships. That's for sure. You know, depending on your issue with it. All right. We're totally changing gears now. But again, you know, go for it. Just rather than overthinking things and waiting till you have confidence, just go for it. All right. The Internet, the cloud and AI, they're not just changing the way we live. They're transforming our communities, our jobs and local economies. And boy, I've been using AI so much. My friends and I've been using it to like. I do interior design. I use it to help me with blogs. I use it to create a logo. It's so much fun. Well, joining us now is Dan DiIorio, Vice President of State Policy at the Data Center Coalition, whose membership includes companies such as Meta that operate data center facilities here in the U.S. And Dan's here to talk about this innovative industry and how it has become the infrastructure behind America's digital future. Welcome, Dan. Thanks for having me. All right, so first of all, before we talk about what's driving the growth of data centers, for those of us who are novices in this arena, what are the data centers? What do they do? What are they?
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Yeah, well, data centers are the infrastructure behind everything we do every day. It's essential services like electronic healthcare records and banking transactions to things like online shopping and streaming video or social media. And as our digital lives keep expanding, data center companies are working to build more of the infrastructure that supports our everyday lives and that really serves as the backbone of the 21st century economy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow, just when you explained it, it sounds like everything.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very much so. The average household has 21 connected devices. When you start adding it all up and you include things like ring doorbells, smart thermostats, lightning, all of that requires digital infrastructure, and all of those things we use in our everyday lives.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh my gosh, it's so funny you say that about the number of devices, because we just bought a home with our son for him to live in while he's in college. So there's four college kids in the house. And they said, how many things will be connected? I said, oh, eight to 10. No, 36.
SPEAKER 03 :
That sounds about right. Given what we have these days with our laptops, our phones, our smartwatches, everything and anything really requires digital infrastructure. was crazy all right so let's talk about um what's driving the growth of data centers right now what what is the big driver or some of the big drivers sure sure it's the collective computing demands of consumers and businesses nearly all sections of the 21st century economy require digital infrastructure and certainly new technologies like you mentioned that are pushing the bounds of innovation like artificial intelligence Artificial intelligence has a wide range of applications throughout the economy, from detecting credit card fraud to things like healthcare applications to optimizing our utility grid. So it really is innovation across the board, which is driving the growth of data centers.
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You know, we don't have to get into this too much, but I was speaking of, you know, the grid having an impact on, you know, the way that our towns are run. I was watching some 60 Minutes story about how someone had gotten into another country that was monitoring their infrastructure regarding like everything, their water, their power, their etc. And the news anchor asked the guy, the manager, do you have any connection with this country? Would Do they have any reason to be, you know, watching what you're doing with your city? And if they shut this down, would they impact the whole city? And he's like, yes. And so they felt that it was just like kind of figuring out how in our country we do these things. And that was like scary to me. So let's talk about the impact that these data centers are having on local communities and and maybe what we can, you know, what's being done to protect us, per se.
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Sure. Well, it's important to remember that data centers are an essential component of maintaining our global competitiveness, but also our national security. Again, as digital lives continue to expand, we want our data stored here at home, safe and securely domestically. And the benefits that data centers bring to communities are tremendous. Hundreds, if not thousands, of construction workers are in the construction phase, but they depend on local contractors like electricians, HVAC technicians, plumbers, and pipefitters to keep their facilities running at an optimized level. 4.7 million U.S. jobs were supported by the data center industry in 2023. For every one job, six jobs are supported elsewhere in the economy. And the industry has generated more than $160 billion in federal, state, and local tax revenues.
SPEAKER 05 :
Man. All right. Well, let's talk about the energy side. Do they use a lot of power?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, data centers certainly do use a lot of energy. But, again, that energy is reflective of the demands from the 21st century economy and consumers and businesses. But the facilities themselves are very energy efficient. broader efficiency gains throughout the economy. Again, think of things like smart thermostats in your homes. The industry is also very much investing in clean and renewable energy. Companies like Meta match their energy use with 100% renewable energy, but they also invest in things like advanced geothermal and advanced nuclear technologies. And from a wider industry view, the data center industry is very much investing in the transition to clean energy.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Let's talk about beyond tech, what other benefits these projects are bringing to our local communities.
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Well, yes. Of course, they generate significant state and local tax revenues that community leaders use to reinvest in things like schools and infrastructure and public services. But data centers invest in the community members themselves. They support workforce development programs. They help to support skilled trades training. as well as other community programs where they operate. They're really focused on creating career pathways for members of the community to get into a 21st century economic growth driver.
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We're talking to our kids. I've got three kids that are college age-ish, two in college and one going soon. um and they talk about you know what's next and my daughter wanted to be an attorney and my husband's like you know ai is going to take over a lot of that you know contract writing etc maybe not arguing in a courtroom but you know and so we're talking about new ways for the kids to get you know involved in the future uh let's talk about how people can learn more get involved and is this an area that we can like steer our children into for the future because you don't want to put them in something now that's going to be obsolete in three or four years
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah, I certainly think that this is very much a growth field, and certainly on the career pathways, I would definitely encourage individuals to explore pathways here, whether it's through the skilled trades or the technology field itself. Data centers are continuing to expand to meet our collective demand, and there's no signs that that demand is going to slow and data centers will need to continue investing. And to learn more about the data center industry and our members of the data center coalition, you can go to datacentercoalition.org.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, let's talk a little bit, too, about – and I'll have you repeat that at the end of the interview. Let's talk a little bit more about what's next, what makes these data centers so innovative. So what's next for them, for you?
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Well, data centers are powering innovation and they thrive on innovation. They're supporting new innovative technologies like artificial intelligence throughout the economy, but they're also reinvesting in innovative technologies in their facilities. They're deploying technologies to advance their energy efficiency, advanced cooling technologies and automation to help them increase their water efficiency, and they will continue reinvesting and deploying innovative tools to ensure that they use resources wisely.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I always, you know, I feel like I'm really blessed that I, being in news for 30 years all over the country and working for big organizations like NBC, etc. I think I've worked for them all now. I feel blessed that I get to talk to people like you because It's fascinating to me to talk about things that really I don't have any background in. I guess that's the cool thing about journalism. So how did you get into this area? What gave you a passion for this area of expertise? What made you qualify to become a mucky muck in this arena?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, certainly as I looked at the industry. industry and found its essential role in supporting everything we do every day. I felt compelled to get involved in the industry and figure out ways that I could help support it and ensure that it continues to advance and invest in communities throughout the country. This is an industry that brings significant state and local tax revenues, significant career opportunities, and significant innovative technologies to the forefront. And so I think as this industry continues to expand, I wanted to do my part to help support it and help to keep the U.S. really a global leader in data center development.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so I like to learn new things. You have to tell me, I was reading a little bit about your background, that you were involved with a startup advanced manufacturing company. What does that mean?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah, it was very much an interesting startup company that took roofing shingles and then broke them down and then were able to break them down into their components, which were essentially a petroleum product and then sand and fiberglass, and then recycled those back through. So it was very much in the startup phase, and unfortunately it didn't quite work out, but it was successful. very much an interesting technology that was being utilized out there, figuring out ways where you can take a product that, you know, at the end of its useful life is an asphalt roofing shingle that goes into a landfill, and, you know, it's not adding anything of value back. So the ability to recycle that, bring it back through the process, and break it down into those components that can be used throughout the supply chain there, I think, was really valuable.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I love that reuse, repurpose. And, you know, just speaking of, you know, roofs, just the innovation there. And we have a stone coated steel roof and we're like the only home in our like area that didn't get a new roof during like the hail and everything. And then also they're doing so many cool things now with like fires, you know, how to keep a fire from taking over your whole home, depending on how you do your roof. I don't know. I just think innovation is so cool. So again, give us the website so that people can get more information regarding everything we've talked about in the interview.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is datacentercoalition.org.
SPEAKER 05 :
datacentercoalition.org. Dan, always a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining us on The Good News. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.

On today's program: Casey Harper, Managing Editor for Broadcast at The Washington Stand and Host of the "Outstanding" podcast, shares updates on the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. He also recaps President Trump's trip to Asia, renewed American
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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There was an outstanding group of decisions, I think, that was made. A lot of decisions were made. There wasn't too much left out there. And we've come to conclusion on many very important points.
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That was President Donald Trump earlier today on his way back from South Korea, where he met with China's leader to discuss trade and other issues. But no reports indicate that the persecution of Christians by the CCP was discussed. Welcome to this October 30th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Coming up on today's program, Israel continues airstrikes on Hamas terrorists but vows to maintain the fragile Gaza ceasefire. Chris Mitchell, CBN's Middle East Bureau Chief, will join me in studio to talk about the significance of this moment as it pertains to Israel and the Middle East. Also, Congressman Chris Smith from New Jersey will join me to discuss the Trump-Xi meeting and the ongoing persecution of Christians in China and elsewhere. Israel forces struck Gaza today, hitting terrorist infrastructure after an ambush that killed an Israeli soldier. Fears are growing that Hamas' repeated challenges to the truce could make it crumble. Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper, who's been following today's main developments. Casey, what's the latest from Israel as this fragile truce continues to be tested by the Hamas terrorist?
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Yeah, Tony, seemingly tested every day as Hamas is continuing to violate the ceasefire and Israel is holding them accountable. Now, one key violation here has been the release of those deceased hostages, and we do have an update on that. Hamas said it actually released two of those hostages today. The remains are currently being transported to Israel for identification and burial. Now under the peace agreement, Hamas was supposed to release all the hostages, living and dead, in exchange for Palestinian prisoners and Israel pulling back somewhat from Gaza. But as you know, Hamas has held back bodies, which is threatening the peace deal. On top of that, Israel killed dozens of Hamas terrorists in airstrikes after an attack that killed an Israeli soldier. And even just this morning, we have a report of new airstrikes in southern Gaza, raising fears that this shaky truce is about to collapse. Now, one more thing, Tony. Israel actually carried out attacks against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon today in response to an overnight raid that killed a local worker.
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Well, this ceasefire is certainly shaky. Chris Mitchell with CBN News. He is the Middle East Bureau chief. He's going to join me here in the studio a little bit later to discuss the future of this fragile truce. And we're going to talk about a little bit more, I'm sure. So, Casey, President Trump has returned from his trip to Asia and his meeting with China's leader has dominated headlines over the last 24 hours. What were the outcomes that we're aware of from this meeting in South Korea?
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Well, President Trump called the meeting a 12 out of 10, and that's because they hit several of their goals going into that meeting. So, President Trump's meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in South Korea, it's actually their first face-to-face talk since 2019 in Trump's first term. And we did have some big developments. FOR ONE, THE TWO LEADERS AGREED TO CUT TARIFFS ON CHINESE GOODS IN EXCHANGE FOR CHINA CRACKING DOWN ON FENTANYL, SINCE OF COURSE THAT FENTANYL INEVITABLY ENDS UP IN THE U.S. AND KILLS AMERICANS. ANOTHER TAKEAWAY IS THAT CHINA IS GOING TO RESUME PURCHASING SOYBEANS AND THEY'RE GOING TO PAUSE THEIR EXPORT CONTROLS ON RARE EARTH MINERALS FOR A YEAR, AND THOSE MINERALS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR MICROCHIP AND A.I. DEVELOPMENT.
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group of decisions I think that was made. A lot of decisions were made. There wasn't too much left out there.
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We had a long meeting, as you know, but a lot of things we discussed in great detail. A lot of things we brought to finalization. A lot of finalization.
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Now, we had one more kind of surprising announcement before the president's meeting with Xi. He announced that the U.S. is going to resume nuclear weapons testing for the first time in 30 years. He pointed out that Russia and China are already doing the same. And according to initial reports, as you mentioned, issues like Taiwan and, sadly, the religious persecution of Christians in China apparently did not come up in the meeting. But Trump said he plans to visit China in April and invited Xi to the U.S., so there could be another opportunity, Tony.
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Thanks, Casey. The persecution of Christians in China is a major issue. As I mentioned, Congressman Chris Smith will join me shortly to discuss the Chinese Communist Party's crackdown on Christians and what steps are needed to defend Christians in China and around the world. Before we go to Congressman Smith, let's shift gears just a moment and discuss the latest on the government shutdown. You know, Casey, if the Schumer shutdown continues, many programs including those that support children and the most vulnerable Americans, will run out of money. Is there any indication that the Democrats are concerned about this?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, you're right that the pain is ratcheting up from this shutdown, Tony. I think Democrats are feeling the pressure, and maybe they do care, but they feel stuck. And if this shutdown continues, it's only going to get worse. For instance, education and child care services for tens of thousands of kids will face cuts this weekend. That's $12.3 billion for the Head Start program, which serves nearly 70,000 kids and is running out of funds. House Speaker Mike Johnson, he put it this way. He said this morning that Democrats are basically being held hostage by their far left base.
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Mondami winning New York City would be the biggest win for the Marxists, the socialists in the history of this country. We have to this point. in nearly 250 years, been able to hold off those kinds of ideas. We've been able to cling to the foundational principles of America, the ideas of individual freedom and limited government and the rule of law and peace through strength and fiscal responsibility and free markets and human dignity. All those things are in jeopardy when the Marxists take over. And it's the clearest sign yet that the Democrats' radical Marxist wing is winning the battle for control of their party.
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Well, the shutdown has also furloughed 700,000 federal workers and threatens to cut SNAP benefits or food stamps for 42 million Americans, all making the pressure grow to make a deal and reopen the government on what is now day 30 of the shutdown, Tony.
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All right, Casey, thanks for that update. You took us around the world in just a couple of minutes. That's right. All right. I want to continue with the discussion on President Trump's meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Joining me now in studio is Congressman Chris Smith, who has several roles in the U.S. House of Representatives. Among them, he is a senior member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. He's co-chair of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission and co-chair of the Congressional Executive Commission on China. He represents the 4th Congressional District of New Jersey, and he is a champion for the persecuted and the voiceless. Congressman Chris Smith, welcome back to Washington Watch.
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Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, so let's – you know, news just coming out. I mean, we've been – this dominated the headlines for the last 24 hours. But as I mentioned, no reports suggesting the president discussed persecution of Christians.
SPEAKER 03 :
We don't know yet. The hope is that he did. And Marco Rubio, who is obviously the Secretary of State, he and I co-chair the China Commission. He's very well aware of all things related to human rights abuse by Xi Jinping, including and especially the ongoing and ever-escalating crackdown on believers in China. It is awful. They're committing genocide, Xi Jinping, against the Uyghurs and the Muslims. repression of the Buddhists, but the Christians have been singled out in a very, very horrible way by this dictator, Xi Jinping, to destroy them.
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And what we're seeing here recently is one of the most intense we've seen in decades. I know this may sound like a rhetorical question, but prior to President Trump's meeting with Xi Jinping. You co-authored, you co-wrote a piece with our friend Sam Brownback that was published Monday in The Washington Times, and it was entitled Why China's War on Religion Matters to the U.S. You are persistent, as I am, in raising this issue. Why? Why does this have to be a part of our foreign policy?
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Well, I think it's good governance. Obviously, if you have, and we wrote this into our op-ed, people of faith, you need less laws. They are self-contained. They have parameters in their lives. They're more honest, hardworking.
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It's worked historically for our government. It sure has. John Adams said that our government, our laws were made for a moral and religious people. They're wholly inadequate for the government of any other. There was this understanding that people of faith, Christian faith in particular, as our country goes, would restrain themselves by self-government.
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Exactly. And that was part of our op-ed that Sam Brownback, who's a great, great leader as well, like you, you chaired the Religious Freedom Commission and you did that amazingly well. I do think that people need to understand, and that goes for Xi Jinping, it is in his interest to allow religious freedom. But they're afraid of it. They're afraid of everything. And anything that he doesn't control and his people – you know, in a speech I gave earlier today, pointed out that Solzhenitsyn – Yeah, by the way, you spoke at CPAC. Yes, I did.
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They have – they're rolling out an initiative for persecuted Christians around the world. And you were the keynote today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, 380 million people worldwide, Christians, are severely repressed, many of them to the point of incarceration and torture. It is bad and getting worse. And we have tools, the Frank Wolf Law, International Religious Freedom Act. Do we have an obligation to speak up? Oh, I think we have to. And to do it, looking dictators or other people that are doing it in the eyes, raising it and saying it matters, it should matter to you, we stand in solidarity with the oppressed, not the oppressor. What happens if we don't? If we don't, we enable it. Maybe unwittingly, but we enable it. If it's not something we're willing to raise and to do it in an informed way, because if you do it just haphazardly, the dictator says they don't know what they're talking about. It's just a talking point. But you talk about specifics. You talk about individuals. That's why it's always important, I think, that presidents and prime ministers and certainly members of Congress, meet with people who are part of the diaspora or those who were asylum seekers and got the asylum because they were being repressed, like Bob Fu, people like that. You need to get their insights. That's why I hold so many hearings on religious freedom.
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If we ignore it as a nation, and I would say this goes for us as individuals, especially as Christians, if we ignore it, does that not have a... an effect upon us domestically where we begin to lose the value and understanding of these fundamental rights that we take for granted.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think it also sets us up for losing it here, too. You know, it's not just over there. We have, you know, we look at the guy that's running for mayor in New York. He is so anti-faith, Christian faith, and Jewish.
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Marxism is against it. You have to eliminate faith and the family in order for the Marxist ideology to take root.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. Solzhenitsyn said it's militant atheism in his books about Russia, or then the Soviet Union. And he pointed out, it's not that they don't believe in God, they don't know, they're more agnostic than atheists, but they hate God.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, that's the people you crush. You can't reach God, per se, but they can certainly reach those people or co-opt them. And that's what I'm worried about Xi Jinping with his sinitization campaign to take over the faith and dictate what goes into the Bible, what doesn't. And that's antithetical to everything we believe in. Remember, we're admonished by God himself. Don't change a word of this. Well, they're changing major books of it. I've met with top leaders in China, including the head of the Patriotic Association years ago, which was the official Catholic dictatorship-run church, and whole parts of the Bible were excised. I said, how could you do that? You know, who are you? You know, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and certainly St. Paul and all the others, don't touch it. Preserve it. Put sandbags around it. But they don't. They try to co-opt it. And if you fight it, you're in prison. You're tortured. You're going to be killed. Which is what we see happening right now. It's happening right this minute with the Zion Church.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, Congressman Chris Smith, I appreciate you speaking out and drawing attention to that. There's other hot spots in the world. Nigeria, one that we've spoken about frequently. North Korea. It's cropping up everywhere. We've got to go to a break. We've got to come back. We're going to continue this conversation. Also, some new polling out. And you're also co-chair of the pro-life caucus in the House. New information out that Americans... understand the dangers of the abortion drug Mifeprestone, and they feel like the policy should reflect the dangers. And right now those policies are not. Congressman Chris Smith, my guest, he's going to stick around. I hope you will as well. So don't go away. Go anywhere. We'll be right back. Our founding scripture for this is Ephesians chapter 6, verse 13. Therefore, take up the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand in the evil day. and having done all to stand, stand therefore.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in on this Thursday. All right, this evening, members of Congress will come together publicly, not to debate or to campaign, but to pray for America in a national prayer call. The House Freedom Caucus and Family Research Council are hosting together a prayer call at 8 p.m. Eastern. We'll be seeking the Lord together on behalf of the nation, asking for wisdom, protection, and renewal in this what I would only describe as a critical time. And you can join us. Dr. Ben Carson will be there. Frank Turek will be joining us and members of the House Freedom Caucus. To join us, text the word praise, P-R-A-Y-S, P-R-A-Y-S to 67742. And I'll send you information on how you can join us for this prayer call. All right. I'm continuing my conversation with my guest and my friend, Congressman Chris Smith of New Jersey, who, as I mentioned, several different roles in the House of Representatives, but among them championing the cause of the persecuted and the unborn. Two things I want to continue our conversation about. So we were discussing China. the increased persecution of Christians that's happening there. It's interesting, and you've been around a while, so maybe you can speak to this, but it seems like there's a pattern that prior to the Chinese Communist Party leaders meeting with the U.S., it's like they intensify their persecution. It's almost as if they're testing and probing to see if we will do or say something.
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That's a great analysis and observation. You know, often when discussions with the warring parties come together, one or both accelerate the amount of atrocities being committed. Putin does it every time. And, you know, I think that's what we're seeing here. But the hatred that Xi Jinping has for people of faith and the people around him is unpalatable. You could cut it with a knife. And the only people they want, like with the Uyghurs and others, they want them for their organs. I have a bill, Forced Organ Harvesting Act, passed the House 406 to 1, and it hasn't gotten out of the Senate.
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I do not think we should be having conversations about economic trade unless we're also talking about human rights.
SPEAKER 03 :
It all has to be combined. Because we facilitated this.
SPEAKER 14 :
You go back to the most favored nation status that was granted to the Chinese back in the 90s. And it was, well, we're going to change them by doing business with them. No, what's happened, we've changed.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, Frank Wolf and I led the effort. to ensure that MFN, most favored nation status with China, and human rights conditionality were one and the same, combined. Bill Clinton de-linked it on May 26, 1994, and said, we'll just trade, and somehow they'll matriculate from dictatorship and doing horrific things to Christians and others, just because they're trading more. That never works. And, you know, I have a billion right now to do just that, reimpose the linkage with human rights of trade.
SPEAKER 14 :
But American businesses have changed their values.
SPEAKER 03 :
They sure have. They conform.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right, because they wanted to do—we've seen this. We've seen it. Like, for instance, in the movie industry that's been doing movies with China, they've allowed China to edit their movies so that they're favorable toward China.
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Well, look at the NBA, what it did to freedom. I mean, it was ridiculous. He speaks out for a genocide and the victims of the genocide, and the NBA throws him out. You know, we've asked the NBA to come and testify. I want to get them in front of us as a witness and defend that. And he even told us that many of his friends in the NBA were fearful of saying anything, that they would be excised from the National Basketball Association.
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You and I can sit here and talk all day, and I'm going to run out of time. I want to get to another issue that's... Very important to you, very important to me. It's a new study that was released, a survey by McLaughlin Associates. It shatters a major pro-abortion talking point. Now, this study revealed that voters do, in fact, care about health and safety protocols when it comes to the dispensing of this dangerous chemical abortion drug. pill, Mifeprestone. Now, abortions have actually gone up in this country since the overturn of Roe because of the abortion bill. Seventy percent or more of abortions are now because of this pill. They're being mailed into states without any in-person consultation between doctor and woman. I mean, we've got upwards of 80 percent of the people saying, yeah, we shouldn't be doing that.
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which is very encouraging that the American public gets it. You know, Bill Clinton brought mephipristo into this country. He begged the maker of it, beginning in his first term, to bring it over here. They did sham trials about the safety, the efficacy. We know it works. It kills babies. It starves them to death. But they fudged terribly on the issue of safety for women. And women are... dying. There's no reporting of it. Adverse effects under Biden completely don't even report.
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We wouldn't treat any other drug this way.
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No other drug. It's in a league of its own in a very dangerous way.
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So even 57 percent of liberal voters say an in-person doctor visit should be required before this drug is prescribed.
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a fantastic motivator for us to do something. Why is it not happening? Well, we're asking the administration to take it, I would love for them to take it off the market because of the deleterious effects to women. The newest study that came out on April 28th of this year, found that 11% of the women suffer very serious deleterious effects, including hemorrhaging, sepsis. All of that has been put under the table by the abortion industry. So minimally, what the president, I hope, will do is say this mail order scheme, where it is being mailed into Texas and everywhere else, where states have pro-life laws. needs to be pulled back and stopped. And again, to require, I don't want it to be out there, but at least have the doctor involved with it so you don't just type something up and you get it.
SPEAKER 14 :
But Congressman, you also have under this current protocol where an in-person visitation or consultation is not required, you have men ordering this drug from out of state and putting it in drinks and food.
SPEAKER 03 :
There have been so many cases, it's the tip of the iceberg, where this guy drops the pill in there while she's drinking her coffee, and next thing you know, she has an abortion.
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Is the federal government's policy facilitating that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, definitely. It started under Biden. We need to reverse it. We're asking the president to reverse it. Many of us have done letters asking it be reversed. And at a minimum, again, make sure that the safety protocols are in effect for the women.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, where do you find something where you have nearly 80 percent of the people agreeing to it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Almost nothing. And that's encouraging that the American public get it so and have said so.
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Folks, you can weigh in on this. You can sign the petition that will be delivered to the administration. Text LIFE to 67742. LIFE to 67742. This is too important to let go. Congressman Smith has dedicated his political career to protecting the unborn. We're not going to stop now.
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And can I also say, the abortion pill is now being promoted aggressively by the World Health Organization. It has been, but now more than ever. So when we say it's okay, it's safe, it gives the green light, and it's happening all over the world. And these women are going to die. Some are already dying.
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Congressman Chris Smith, always great to see you. Thank you, Tony. Stick with us, folks. We're back after this. For over 4,000 years, the Jewish people have had legal, historical, and biblical ties to the land of Israel, especially the heartland of Israel, Judea and Samaria, which much of the world still calls the West Bank. To Israelis, Judea and Samaria is far more than a name. It's the center of their ancestral homeland where nearly 80% of the Bible's events took place. Abraham purchased property in Hebron, Jacob in Shechem, Joshua made an altar on Mount Ebal and led the Israelites into a covenant before God. On Mount Gerizim, overlooking Shechem, Jesus talked to the Samaritan woman at the well about worshiping neither on Mount Gerizim nor in Jerusalem, but in spirit and in truth. Judea and Samaria is nearly a quarter of Israel's current land mass, not a small strip of land on the Jordan River, but a vital and strategic part of the nation's identity. The October 7th massacre, launched from Gaza, shattered the illusion that giving away territory brings peace. Gaza, which was once seen as the cornerstone of a two-state solution, became a launchpad for terror. Today, only 21% of Israelis support a Palestinian state. Trust in a two-state solution has all but collapsed. The Middle East is changing. Iran's grip is weakening. New alliances are forming. But Western countries and some U.S. officials still chase the mirage of a two-state solution. History speaks clearly. The 2005 Gaza withdrawal, backed by the U.S., led not to peace, but to a terrorist regime. Judea and Samaria are 24 times larger than Gaza, deeply woven into Israel's geographic and spiritual fabric. To surrender them would not bring peace. It would invite conflict and existential danger. Family Research Council stands with Israel's rightful claim to sovereignty. It's time for America to do the same for history, for justice, and for lasting security in the Middle East. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. Let me remind you this evening, members of Congress will come together publicly not to debate or campaign, but to pray for America in a national prayer call co-hosted by the Family Research Council. The House Freedom Caucus and the Family Research Council are hosting this prayer call at 8 p.m. Eastern. And you can join us. as we ask for God's wisdom, protection, and renewal in this urgent time. We'll be joined by Dr. Ben Carson. Frank Turek will be joining us as well. You can join us. Text the word PRAISE, that's P-R-A-Y-S, to 67742, 67742. The word PRAISE, P-R-A-Y-S, to join us. All right, we're just a few days away from next week's off-year elections, and while many have noted how they will set the stage for the midterm elections in 2026, how might they impact the current political landscape, even the government shutdown? Joining me to discuss this and more is Mark Mitchell, head of polling and operations for Rasmussen Reports. Mark, welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to see you. Yeah, great to be back. All right, so what are the polls telling us in terms of next week's races?
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Well, I think there might be some surprises. And I'll tell you what, I look at the polling and it's actually kind of closer than you would expect, considering that Donald Trump lost New Jersey, for instance, by six points. And right now, Mikey Sherrill is only up three points in the RealClearPolitics aggregate. And then when you look at Virginia, Spanberger's up seven. So that's not as close of a race, but some really good pollsters have close. Trafalgar's got Spanberger up three, and Qantas Insights, also another honest pollster, has Spanberger up five. Now, I think New Jersey's probably closer than Virginia, but I think the reality that we all have to address is it's surprising that the race is this close in the polling, considering how well Trump did. Because in my polling, 40 percent of Trump's support in November of 2024 actually came from Democrats and independents. And if you look at New Jersey, I mean, it's not a Republican state. And everybody says, well, it's moving to the right. And I think that that really kind of doesn't capture exactly what's happening. I think that. The 2024 election was a referendum on mistrust in the government and Joe Biden's statism, overreach and corruption of the federal government. And people wanted Donald Trump and they gave him the Republican Party to go along with his victory. And my polling has shown that I think people aren't really happy with the level of effort coming out of the Republican Party right now. And I don't know if the people in these special elections are going to necessarily going to be able to convert all that Trump support. So it really comes down to what's turnout going to look like. You know, are these low propensity voters that now vote for the Republican Party, are they going to turn out? And I don't think we have enough elections to really know. So I think there will be some surprises.
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Yeah, turnout is obviously always the key. Polls can tell us one thing, kind of general direction, but it's the people who turn out and vote. Let me go back to something you just said, Mark, about people do not think that the Republicans have delivered or followed through. So what is that? I mean, obviously, this administration has been pretty aggressive, but is it not what people anticipated?
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Well, first, Trump was elected for a domestic policy agenda, and he's had a lot of attention overseas in foreign policy entanglements. His job approval rating right now is negative eight, the lowest of his term. Obviously, some of it's because of the shutdown, but our polling said that Americans are okay with a shutdown as long as they actually get... spending cuts and freezes, and that's not happening. So we have a shutdown where basically nobody's doing anything. I think that that's adding to the problem. And how does he fix that? There needs to be some plan. Congress is not in session. There's been very little legislation passed. And then the polling says that, well, people don't like what they see. Only 38% of Trump supporters have a very favorable impression of the Republican Party. And when we ask, 60% of Republicans agree that the Republican Party— in Congress hasn't delivered on Trump's mandate. And that was back in May. So it's only gotten worse since then. And the window, in my opinion, is closing because it doesn't necessarily look like November 2026 is going to be a slam dunk for Republicans. And what are they going to run on? They're going to run on we're not Democrats. But actually, especially the under 40s are kind of OK with Democrats. They're kind of OK with Democrat socialists. And even the under 40 Trump supporters that we polled on support socialistic policies because they think this entire system, this entire free market conservatism that Republicans have been championing doesn't work for them anymore. And so how is this entire system going to be fixed? They want to burn the system down. And Republicans aren't speaking to that at all.
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So does that give us the backdrop to New York and what's happening there with Mandani?
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Exactly. You're going to see a lot more about literally 62 percent of under 40 think the economy is not fair to young people. Three quarters of Trump 2024 supporters under 40 support nationalizing major industries like energy, health care and tech. And 56 percent of them supported excess wealth confiscation. So they think the system doesn't work. They don't see Republicans really trying to fix it. They support Donald Trump. But when did the under 40 support Donald Trump most? 60% job approval rating when he was hacking apart the federal government back with Doge. And what happened? In my opinion, behind the scenes, Republicans probably curbed Doge, drove it into a ditch. You don't hear about it at all, but Doge was even more popular than Donald Trump was, and everybody loved what was going on then. So under 40s went from 60 percent Trump approval down to high 30s. Now he's basically like lost those people. Independence. He's underwater. Twenty seven points. A lot of those are younger people as well who aren't happy with either political party. And the Republicans don't really seem to have a plan. Their plan seems to be like, OK, well, this will shut down. We'll end eventually and we can get back into reconciliation stuff. But that just looks like business as usual in Washington, D.C. People want something different.
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We have 30 seconds left. If New York prevails for the socialists, does that give the Democrats an off ramp to agree to reopen the government?
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I really don't know what's going on. They wanted this shutdown. I think everybody felt this shutdown was coming. It hasn't really affected Donald Trump's numbers. And, you know, they've been talking about the snap funding like going away and talking about protests. So I feel like there's an aspect of accelerationism that people are overlooking. And I don't see an out really right now at all.
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Yeah. Yeah. All right. Mark, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us. Great to be back. Thanks. Yeah. You know, I don't see an off ramp either, other than if they could claim victory because some of the unions are pushing. All right. Don't go away. We're going to be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. All right, Saturday, for those of you who are on our journey through the Bible, stand on the Word, we begin the first of Paul's prison letters. And it covers about 14 days. And we're going to go through Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Philemon. And to help you on this journey, we have a new study guide, Paul's Prison Letters. This is available in print or digital, so you can get it right away. The guide will help you apply Paul's message of steadfast faith and freedom in your own life. As we wrap up tomorrow, the Book of Acts, we're going to move right in to those prison letters. So to get a copy, text the word LETTERS letters, that's plural, to 67742. That's letters to 67742 to get your copy. Well, speaking of the word, our word for today comes from Acts chapter 27. Paul's on his way to Rome as a prisoner. Earlier, he had warned the crew of a coming disaster, but they refused to listen. Now, as the storm rages and the ship begins to break apart, Paul gives them crash instructions. Verse 33, "'And as day was about to dawn, Paul implored them all to take food, saying, "'Today is the fourteenth day. You have waited and continued without food and eaten nothing. Therefore I urge you to take nourishment, for this is for your survival, since not a hair will fall from the head of any of you.'" Though chained and confined, Paul became the steady voice of faith and reason. A prisoner by circumstance, he was a leader by conviction. Because he walked closely with God, he possessed divine confidence in the face of chaos. So how did Paul go from captive to captain? In every storm, those who hear from God and trust His promises remain calm when others panic. Their peace becomes their authority and their faith, the anchor that steadies everyone around them. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. I want to thank Jody Heiss for filling in, hosting for me yesterday here on Washington Watch. I was tied up, actually pleasantly tied up, hosting the Watchman on the Wall Pastors Briefing at the Bible Museum. FRC hosted a number of pastors here in Washington to just encourage them, to strengthen them, to inform and educate them. In fact, we had the House Speaker joined us last night to talk with those pastors. And by the way, if you are a pastor... And you would like to know more about how to connect with the Family Research Council and our pastor's outreach and the resources that we provide to pastors, you can email me, tony at tonyperkins.com. Well, we covered a lot of ground in that pastor's briefing, from personal ministry to evangelism to a briefing on the transgender. gender movement, and an update on Israel from our next guest. Chris Mitchell, the Middle East Bureau Chief for CBN News, traveled from Jerusalem to Washington to join us and brief the pastors. And he joins me now in studio. Chris, thanks so much for coming to Washington to join us. And thanks for joining me today.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's great to be with you, Tony, and great to be with you at the Pastors Conference, the Watchmen on the Wall. A wonderful time for pastors to get a briefing, to get refreshment as well, because they're on the front lines of the spiritual battle here in the United States.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and the issue of Israel is front and center among those, as we talked about, spiritual battles that are raging.
SPEAKER 11 :
And what I was hoping to bring, and why you invited me, is to give a biblical, geopolitical perspective on what's happening in Israel right now, certainly some of the issues of Gaza. But I think the two-year window since October 7th, really to help give a perspective of what Israel's gone through, what they've done to mitigate civilian casualties, for example, And also the spiritual battle, the battle, this sort of red-green alliance, this Islam and the left that has bonded together to really have an assault against Israel, not necessarily on the battlefield, but the information battlefield, which is crucial to the future of Israel and Christian support for Israel.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now, Chris, you've been in Jerusalem about as long as I've been here in Washington, D.C., and I can say that things have changed significantly here in Washington, D.C., over the last two decades. I think you could say the same about what's happening in Israel. There's an intensity. Look, I think we're moving toward the end of time and the spiritual battle is raging because I think the enemy of our soul, Satan,
SPEAKER 11 :
Knows his time is short. No, I agree. And especially after October 7th, you know, from 2000 when we first got there, what's called the Second Intifada. And there's been several wars throughout this 25 years. But the last two years and especially.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's been the longest war in the history of the nation. That's right. Of the modern nation.
SPEAKER 11 :
And one of the things that we mentioned yesterday was not only the prophetic things that are converging in Israel, and especially the nations coming against Jerusalem. And I think that is just intense.
SPEAKER 14 :
So let me ask you about that, because Jerusalem, it's not like they have... natural resources. It's not like there's—it's not even like it's a geographical spot that provides power and defense. There's something else that draws the attention of the entire world to a country and a city, a country that's no larger than the state of New Jersey here in the United States.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, many people call it the center of the world, and many times I've gone out— You know, I used to live in a place called Abattoir where I could overlook the old city. I used to take my dog out for a walk and I'd watch and it's almost like watching a watercolor painting. You don't see it in detail, but the whole city is pregnant with prophecy and you just know something more than just the beauty of Paris or the strength of New York City.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's more than what you can see with your physical eyes. Totally, totally. But I think it's becoming It's like when I was a police officer, we used to do fingerprinting. And so you couldn't see the fingerprint unless you put the powder on there. In the old days, they used powder and they would pull it off and they would be latent prints. You'd be able to see them. I think the latent fingerprint of God is upon Israel.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's a great way to put it. And you need to see it. The way you can see it is that dust is the Word. If you get into the Word and you find out what He says about Jerusalem, not only its past, its present, but its future, then you get an understanding of really what's happening.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it's becoming more and more clear. So I think we live in quite the significant moment, which I think explains why even in the church there is this... You know, some would push back when I make this comment, anti-Semitic rise even within the church. You know, there are those that, the replacement theology, that do not recognize Israel as the modern state of Israel or the Jewish people and their right to that land in which they live. That the prophecies of God, the covenant of God ceased. I think that fosters, now their heart may not be anti-Semitic, but that fosters anti-Semitism.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, that the Jewish people of today aren't the same Jews as the Jews of the Bible. But when you see what's happening, not only with the nations coming against Jerusalem, you see this miracle of Aliyah. If you look back in the last 150 years... I think we read something about that in the Bible. Many things in the Bible about that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
They're coming from all the four corners of the earth. They're coming back to Jerusalem. In fact, since October 7th, and the nation has been at war, you would have thought that people would have avoided Israel. Yeah. That's not the case.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, the Jews are coming back. Even more so. Yeah, even during war. In higher percentages. Yeah, yeah. And the four corners of the earth, you know, some people think of Israel as a white European Sephardic, not an Ashkenazi nation. There's so many from Middle East, North Africa, South America, all over the world. They're coming back.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is a melting pot.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah. And so Aliyah is such a miracle. I mean, I get to see it almost every day, the birth of the nation, but also the growth of the nation in so many ways. It's become a startup nation. Well, in the miraculous
SPEAKER 14 :
hand of God that has been upon the nation in the last two years. And I've spoken with members of the Knesset who are friends of mine about the actual recorded miracles of their efforts against Iran and taking out the nuclear facility. Not a single plane or pilot or anything was lost. It's unheard of.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And you hear stories of miracles from the men on the ground in Gaza or Lebanon, you know, miracles of how they survived. And one other thing, Tony, you know, about the Bible, it tells about Ilan Barre back in Genesis chapter 12. You know, the promise of God to the Jewish people goes back 4,000 years. Right. And where did that happen? Ilan Beret in Samaria. Okay. All right. The heartland, the biblical heartland of Israel.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's where I want to turn to next because that has become a flashpoint. Right. Because we're talking about the historic land of the Bible, Judea and Samaria, which is often described as the West Bank. I talk about this a lot on this program, but I think it's very important because as a nation, the United States, Our policy should be aligned with the truth of Scripture. And that is, I'm not saying we support every decision Israel made. Israel has some bad domestic policy. I mean, they do not have good policy when it comes to the sanctity of human life. They have bad policy on marriage and human sexuality. So they've got some bad stuff, just like our country has some bad stuff. But our support for Israel is a recognition of their right to exist in the land that God gave them. That's what I mean by the support for Israel. But that is coming under assault. Even if you look and dissect the 20-point peace plan for Gaza, there are a few indicators in there that... do not align with a recognition of Judea and Samaria and the right of Israel to declare sovereignty over those regions.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly. And also, I mean, President Trump came specifically against declaring sovereignty right now over Judea and Samaria.
SPEAKER 14 :
And when we talk about this, I want to be clear, because it is somewhat complex. They're not trying to, Israel is not declaring sovereignty over the entire region. What they are wanting to do is strategically over like the Jericho Valley or the Jordan Valley in the high places overlooking Jerusalem and Samaria. So it's very strategic. And these are areas where the Jewish people already live in. Mm hmm. Yeah. Maybe about 500,000 or more. Right. So it's not it's not that they're trying to kick anybody out. Yeah. It's just that they want to be able to have operational control over the heartland of the country. And it's geographically as well as ethnically. I mean, that's their identity comes from that land.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. That's where Judea, Jews come from Judea. And also in the 20-point plan, there's a glimmer of maybe there would be a two-state solution. Well, it's actually, it states that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I think in point 19, I think, or 20.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the scripture that really kind of goes against that is Joel 3. Right. Where he judges the nations.
SPEAKER 14 :
But it's also more clearly articulated, I think, in... Point six. I'm not sure. I don't have it in front of me where it says Israel will not annex or occupy Gaza. Now, I want to go back for a moment, because in 2005, the disengagement is what. got this ball rolling. And so that was, you know, there were many of us that were opposed to that. It's proven that what we said, you know, you can't give land for peace, but this plan actually solidifies that. And I know that that's, That's status quo, if you will, but it is solidifying what was done before that was wrong.
SPEAKER 11 :
We were there before 2005, did many stories on many of the Jews living there, about 9,000, maybe 10,000, 21 Jewish communities, thriving communities, great agriculture, beautiful nature. Buildings they'd made, beautiful communities, all destroyed because of the disengagement, which did lay the seeds for October 7th, when Hamas took over. They took over two years later, took over the Palestinian Authority, and then built the largest terrorist base in the world.
SPEAKER 14 :
They've been spending all of that time preparing. And, of course, there's been skirmishes since then. I mean, there's been—I think this was the fifth actual battle or war with Hamas. But they've been laying the groundwork for this. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
with international aid. Yeah, yeah. So the point, for point six, that Jews, it's almost like it's going to be free of Jews. Right. And could they go back? I mean, these are 9,000 that built communities. Would they have the ability to go back?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and we've talked about this on the program as you've joined us from Jerusalem, that this international, quote-unquote, peacekeeping force, there's concern in Israel about who's going to make that force up is Qatar, going to be there? Is Turkey going to be there? Those are problems, because these are people who have facilitated, harbored, and financed Hamas.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. Qatar has given them millions. I think it was $30 million a month for many years that just helped fuel, fund them, pay their salaries. And Turkey, which has ambitions against Jerusalem, and they want to President Erdogan seems to want to build this neo-Ottoman empire. So his ambitions are far more so. Israel really doesn't want Qatar or Turkey to get a foothold there in Gaza.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I think when we look at, not that we're going to get into it, but biblical prophecy and the end times, I think Turkey is one of the ones to watch. I believe so, too. Very interesting. Chris, we have just a minute and a half left. How should the Bible-believing Christians in America be praying right now for Israel? What should we be looking for?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, obviously, pray for the peace of Jerusalem. I mean, that's sort of like a foundation scripture. But pray for wisdom, for the leaders, for Prime Minister Netanyahu, President Trump, all the leaders, members of the White House, members of Israel's government. But I think To get educated, I think people need to pray, but also get educated of what really is happening. What are the scriptural foundations for the land of Israel? Why should Christians support them? Because that itself is under assault right now. And I think Pat Robertson, you know, we kind of went over there standing on his shoulders of support for Israel. I think he really made a great case of why we stand with the Jewish people for such a time as this.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's very important. In fact, I've got a book coming out on that topic. Twenty seconds left. Does Hamas disarm and go away?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I don't think so. They're committed to keep their arms and do what they can to survive and be part of whatever post-Gaza rule there will be.
SPEAKER 14 :
Chris Mitchell, we greatly appreciate you. I appreciate your friendship. I appreciate the work that you and CBN do there in Israel. We pray for you and we appreciate you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks, Tony. Great to be with you.
SPEAKER 14 :
And folks, I want to thank you for joining us as well. I encourage you to join us in our journey through the Bible because it'll help you better understand these issues. So text the word Bible to 67742 to join us. Until next time, I leave you once again with the encouraging words the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6. When you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, prepared, and taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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Join us on this episode of Sekulow as President Trump announces the potential revival of nuclear testing, sparking discussions on global security and international diplomacy. Our host, Logan Sekulow, breaks down the critical reasons behind this decision and its implications for global power dynamics. Featuring insights from Senator Marsha Blackburn, who provides updates on ongoing investigations and legislative priorities like SNAP benefits, this episode brings you closer to the heartbeat of American political maneuvering.
SPEAKER 11 :
Today on Sekulow, President Trump announces he's going nuclear. Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to Sekulow. Just me again, once again. It's just me here in the studio, but that doesn't mean we're going to have anything but a great time today with President Trump announcing, hey, guess what? We're going to restart our nuclear testing. And I know a lot of you are going, whoa, I don't know if that's good, bad. We're going to break it down. Why we feel like that, why President Trump feels like this is important. What's it going to look like? When's it going to start? We're going to get into all that in just a minute. We're going to hear from President Trump himself. And then later on in the show, we're actually joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn, Senator out of Tennessee. We're going to hear from her. We're going to discuss, of course. that jack smith uh investigation as well as as well as those snap programs the snap bill that we talked about yesterday because marcia is one of those senator blackburn is one of the ones that has been uh co-signed and supporting of it so we're gonna discuss that as well again as arctic frost and then later on in the broadcast we're gonna hear from rick grinnell so it's gonna be packed a packed show, and of course, we're going to hear from you. And phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. President Trump has been traveling. My brother is in Washington, D.C. He's been traveling also and getting a lot of work done, including spending some time at the White House. He's been involved in a lot of what's been going on, some key meetings going on in Washington, D.C. right now. If you can send some prayers out to our ACLJ team in Washington, D.C., they would really appreciate it as they are doing some great work, some of which, again, they could talk about, some of which they'll probably never be able to talk about, but that's okay. That is why the ACLJ team is in action, and that's why they exist, why our government affairs team and our Washington, D.C. team is expanding right now as well as our media team. But let's get back to the whole point here, of course. It is that breaking news President Trump announced. It's time to restart this testing. And of course, he's saying we're restarting the testing because essentially the top three others are starting to test and they're testing even more, including Russia, China, a little bit below that. But Russia, as they at least claim, they've been trying out these missiles that are going 8000 miles. That's right. And President Trump responded saying, hey, we don't have to travel 8,000 miles. We got a nuclear sub right outside of Russia in the water. So you know what? It escalates. It's a little concerning. I think we should have discussed this. What do you think about this? Obviously, there is a lot of debate. President Trump seems to want to completely end these programs, but it's almost a peace through strength moment here saying, by saying we're going to test it, will it inevitably end with the dissolution of it? I don't know if that's the case. Obviously, these are concerning times. Whenever anyone starts talking about this, it should be taken very seriously. Let's hear from President Trump. He was on Air Force One yesterday talking about this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Social about nuclear testing. What about resuming nuclear testing? What prompted you to do that right before the meeting?
SPEAKER 09 :
It had to do with others. They seem to all be nuclear testing. We have more nuclear weapons than anybody. We don't do testing. We've halted it years, many years ago. But with others doing testing, I think it's appropriate that we do also.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I look forward to hearing from Rick Riddell and his thoughts on this as well, because he obviously is a bit inside, knows what President Trump is thinking always and seems to know some of the moves here. And is this just a move? Is this a move to just, again? put everyone on their toes a little bit, get the world to take notice of what America's doing, saying, well, if you're going to start claiming these things, we are not going to hold back either. And Putin has been pushing forward, saying they've been doing these testings, including, again, like I said, missiles that are going 8,000 miles. And President Trump said, we have more than anybody. And we stopped testing, which is probably a good thing. But you know what? If they're going to be testing, China said they're about five years behind matching us in testing. Maybe it's time we do as well. I want to know what you think. Obviously, this is a very controversial topic. If he is the president of peace. Is that the same when you start talking about nukes and testing nukes? Of course, we have test facilities and sites that we can do this in relatively safely, I would assume. But I want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. Does this freak you out? Do you like this? What do you think of this move from President Trump? Of course, it's all on the heels of these big international meetings and the war in Russia and Ukraine. Where do you stand now on that? As President Trump seems to be backing Ukraine more than ever. 1-800-684-3110. Heading into the fourth year of that war. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. In the next segment, we're joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn, so you're not going to want to miss that. We're going to talk a bit about Arctic Frost as well. I know a lot of you were calling in yesterday, and if you didn't get through, feel free to call in today. We could take some questions or comments on that as well, which of course is the SNAP situation, the food stamps that potentially could be ending as soon as two days from now. She proposed a bill along with a lot of others. to hopefully at least create a stopgap where that funding continues on for people that are in a need. People who are in need of food that we want to make sure that we're still supporting. And that's okay, and that's good, and we should be able to do that. Of course, that calls for a bipartisan effort. Will that happen? I don't know. We'll talk about it with Senator Blackburn coming up in the next segment, as well as the bigger revelation. Once again, it feels like I can't get away from this story that Jack Smith, who he was looking into, now expands. even further sure first it was people directly involved with president trump then it was people that kind of felt like on the outskirts then it was senators ted cruz lindsey graham all these names that started coming up saying hey i want their phone records you know the people like marshall blackburn that all was happening Then now, as we have seen more and more information come out about this investigation, it now moves to the media. And of course, when you look at the media, the majority of these are conservative-leaning outlets, you would say. So you have companies such as CBS, communications with those. You're also seeing communications with Fox News, with Fox Business, with Newsmax, with Sinclair, and with others. That's according to Chuck Grassley. Those are the names that we just know. We also know Stephen Miller, Dan Scavino, Jared Kushner, and Laura Trump were also targeted, along with major Republican donors that, again, aren't necessarily named, and that's probably good, that they were looking into. This is what was happening during this Arctic Frost investigation. Again, that's just a silly name. They decide to slap on these things. It's where you start questioning your government when they start making everything, ooh, it's a fun code name. Someone said in the chat, Logan talks like he's burdened by the Jack Smith story. Well, you know, it's not that I'm burdened by it as much as when these stories keep growing, it's just frustrating. It gets frustrating to report on it and talk about it each and every day. I want these stories to come to their conclusion. I want there to be people held accountable. But unfortunately, that never seems to happen. It just seems to grow and grow faster. And I like looking at this chat, but you know what? Jack Smith has, you know, at first felt like a boogeyman, but now it feels like this is becoming more realistic. I will not be surprised if these names continue to grow and grow. And now we're seeing the media targeted and that should be alarming as a member of the media. I feel like that should be alarming. There is journalistic integrity. There is also privacy when it comes to the way that you can report and obviously sourcing and everything like that. When you start to break that down and the government starts to break down that walls, the freedom that comes in with journalism. Look, I don't like when the Trump administration did it a few months ago and said, here's the plans you have to have if you want to report here. And everyone walked out except for OAN. I was proud that they did that because that should not be the way our media runs. There needs to be an open and honest journalism here in the United States. So when you start creeping in to what's going on there, it becomes a concern. Of course, we're also talking about one of the stories that came out this morning, really overnight, and that President Trump said it's time to reopen and immediately restart our nuke testing. And that puts up a lot of signs. Look, I understand that it is a big response to what's happening internationally. So you have Russia and China. two of your biggest countries you have to deal with, many of which are, you would say, at this point, not on the best terms. China, less on bad terms than Russia, but still China. And of course, Russia is in the middle of a war that they don't seem to want to wrap up, a war with Ukraine. The President Trump was pretty confident he was going to be able to wrap up very quickly, but now he's saying that working with Vladimir Putin right now, It's simply not moving anywhere. So now we're saying, again, peace through strength, I guess is what you'd say. Once again, saying, you know what? We have more nukes than anyone. You start threatening us with saying we have a nuclear missile that can go a nuclear missile that can go 8000 miles. Well, guess what? We got submarines right off your coast ready to go. We don't need 8000 miles. That's what President Trump said. That's legitimately what he said in talking about this. Now, that kind of conversation should raise red flags, as it does for a lot of Americans, but it should raise red flags for around the world that you don't want to not treat this seriously. Obviously, when we start playing around with nuke talk, it should make us all uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable, but at least President Trump at least has suggested, even in this interview yesterday, this conversation with reporters on Air Force One, that he would like to see it end. He would like to see all of it end. He would like to see a denuclearization of the world. And he's been talking about that with Russia and with China. But again, to not use, I guess, what you have to make sure it's all working just in case. What do you think about this? Give me a call. I want to hear from you. Does this make you concerned? As someone with young kids, does that make you concerned? Or grandkids? that this nuke talk is coming back again. It's flashbacks to when people, my parents or whoever, would tell us the stories of the 60s and tell us about everything that went on. Get under your desk because a nuke is coming. That feels like such distant memories for a lot of people. But of course, it's not that long ago that we're talking about this. We're talking about under 100 years ago that all of it went down. And when that's the truth, you got to start looking at it at a bigger, we're here at nearly the 250th anniversary of this country. That's only three people long. That's a wild thing to think about. We haven't been around all that long and blowing ourselves up doesn't feel like it could be out of the question. So when these talks start getting there, when people are right now also dealing with the fact that they're food supply may be going away, that there's going to be a shortage and they're not going to be able to use their programs that they've been reliant on, whether you like those programs or not. But when you start combining all these things, it does start to create even more of an unrest. And we have to make sure that we are not only peace through strength, but we're also keeping the American people safe and secure and can at least think a little straight of what's going on on a global stage. I want to hear from President Trump again. This is bite six because people are asking, you know, does this push to a more risky environment?
SPEAKER 09 :
with those countries or do you think that it provides a safer outlook do you worry that we're entering a more risky environment when it comes to nuclear issues i think i think we have it pretty well locked up but we you know we have more than anybody but i see them testing i say well they're going to test i guess we have to test i'd like to see a denuclearization because we have so many, and Russia is second, and China is third, and China will catch up within four or five years. I think de-escalation would be, they would call it de-nuclearization, would be a tremendous thing. It's something, we are actually talking to Russia about that, and China would be added to that if we do something.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, that would be, again, a major moment for President Trump if he could get those three major players to denuclearize. Denuclearize? That's the word? Yeah. You know what I'm saying. It's hard to say those words, I have to say. You guys put these things in front of me. I got to say them. And it's like, you know, especially when I'm the only one here, I can usually kick it over to Will and he could say the big words. But today it's just me and you guys. If you could end that, if you could end the nuke programs around the world. Okay, that is another move that I think only President Trump could do. Of course, that comes in response to Russia saying that they launched a missile, a nuclear-powered cruise missile that can travel 8,000 miles, which is pretty bad for everyone in the Western world. Now, who knows? This is coming from the Putin regime. You never know what's true, what's not true. President Trump did respond and say, you know what? We have one way closer. Some of these have been around for a long time. They've been sitting there for quite some time. And you know what? It's time for us to test them, make sure everything's operating successfully if they're going to start threatening this way. And, you know, I know that there's been a lot of flack with people about Russia. And I spent a lot of time there. when i was a kid uh and i don't know if people understand the global impact of this nation and the size of it the scope of it the people you know we we're so far and so distant away uh especially the last 30 years that you don't think about it in those terms and when you have this war in ukraine that's that's looming and still happening multiple years later and it again it feels like the end is not in sight and i'd like it to be I saw some people getting flack for just saying that they miss being able to travel to Russia. They miss being able to experience it. It is a historical place that I would hope I'll be able to take my kids to one day, that things will calm down enough where you will have these regimes either out of power or you will have a regime that is more Western in their ways or at least more accepting of what's going on and not starting these wars because it is a beautiful country with beautiful people and an amazing culture. But unfortunately, like a lot of these, when they get stuck under rule of these dictator-like characters, this is what happens. And you start messing around with nukes. You start messing around with the safety of the world. I mean, it is a concern that we all should have. And I'm interested to see your thoughts. I'm seeing some of the comments in. Maybe you're just not taking it seriously. Maybe you think this is just President Trump bloviating. Maybe it is. What do you think? Do you think this is just a game? Do you take President Trump for his word? How are you going to feel when they start testing these things? He said immediately. I mean, sure, we have areas that are safe to do it in, I'm sure. But who knows? What do you think? 1-800-684-3110. We get back. Senator Marsha Blackburn is calling in. I look forward to talking to her not only about the Jack Smith stuff, but also about the snap bill that she's proposing along with a lot of top Republicans to say, you know what? Let's get this done. If you're not going to reopen the government, if the shutdown is not coming to an end, the least we can do. is get people their food assistance that they need. You know, I see a lot of people who are stepping up in their local communities, and I appreciate that as well. I'm glad people are doing that too. Support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org. Our DC team, hard at work today. Be praying for them. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Senator Marsha Blackburn is joining us right now. She's someone who represents us here in our Nashville office, so it's always great to hear from you. I wanted to start this off. We're going to go to Jack Smith, Arctic Frost, and all that, but I'm looking at the comments of the people that are calling in. We had a big discussion yesterday about SNAP and the funding for SNAP and the fact that you, along with some of the top Republicans, have said, you know what? If the government shutdown is going to continue, if no one's willing to budge on the Democrat side, the least we can do is fund... snap get people who need food assistance to make sure that starting this weekend that they that their kids don't go hungry that you know these programs that again some people may agree with them people may disagree with them but the fact they exist as they exist and push democrats to at least push this forward i want to get your thoughts on where we are with that because i see even i mean i brought it up yesterday on the show how many people even who listen to this broadcast who watch this show are using SNAP benefits. And it's an alarming amount. It's something we should certainly take notice to. But I know you have been at the forefront, along with a big group, to say, you know, let's push this forward.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, indeed we have. And what we've seen is that the Democrats have chosen 14 times to reject opening the federal government and going back to having a continuum on these benefits. And, you know, I think that's one of the important things in this. Some of the Democrats were like, oh, well, we'll do it for a month. But the thing is, that is so disingenuous. It is disrespectful. And what we are saying is, no, you've got to work on this by voting for a clean CR, which is the numbers they have voted for five times. Five times. These are not new numbers. These are the Biden numbers. And, of course, we have said, let's go ahead with this. and make certain that we open the government, and then let's work on what we've got with the rest of the appropriations measures.
SPEAKER 04 :
Senator Blackburn, it is a concern for a lot of people, and again, more people than I would even have assumed. I think a lot of people don't know what's going on behind the scenes in people's lives, so I understand that. I did want to move our attention to what you really are coming on here for. Of course, this is about Jack Smith. This is about what we call Arctic Frost, or what they call Arctic Frost. It seemed to start with just a handful of Republicans. Information started getting out there. I thought that that wasn't egregious enough, but now we are seeing how deep it is. We know there's been over 400 groups that have been, and of course, they're all... for the most part, majority conservative or Republican-leaning, that were targeted here and that have been exposed now, that cell phone records have been pushed for, and everything that's been going on, including in the news media, this corruption, I mean, how deep does this go within the ranks, it feels like, of the previous Department of Justice?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, and I think it is deep and wide, because what you have seen is Jack Smith was put in place for Arctic Frost by Chris Ray and Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco. And on April 4th, 22, they did a memo. Chris Ray wrote a memo to Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco and said, we think maybe, possibly, there could have been some kind of coordination, some kind of obstruction. We don't know There could be alleged activity. It was very vague and nebulous. And so then they put Jack Smith in charge of this. Well, then they came along and there were nine senators, all Republicans who support Trump, who had valid questions about the outcome of the 2020 election. So then they sent a subpoena. over to our wireless companies and pulled our cell phone records. And they got every phone call we either made or received, the duration of the call, the person the call was to or from, and where we were physically standing when the call was either made or received. Very invasive. It's a violation of our First and Fourth Amendment rights. It's a violation of the Speech and Debate Clause, of the Separation of Powers, and the Stored Communications Act, and probably a few other things. And as we go through this process and get ready to begin our hearings with Jack Smith and the wireless companies and find out more, I think it's going to be appalling because think about this. If they were doing this to U.S. senators, what are they doing to the American people that they don't like or that disagree with them?
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. I mean, that's what I was thinking is that you were saying this, if they were willing to do this to you and you've been personally targeted, I mean, along with a lot of this group here and and kind of putting into perspective of what that feels like for you and knowing that they, you know, it's someone like you who has been so pushing heavy on child safety and online child safety, even knowing that, you know, people, parents with kids and grandchildren, that this is a should be a wake up call that this is. kind of information is happening and that your cell phone provider is willing, some of them, some of them did not have to say pushback, some did push back on it, is willing to do this. And I guess the answer that a lot of American people are wondering, Senator Blackburn, is you've been targeted by this. So many of our other friends have been. What does accountability now look like for Jack Smith?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Well, thank goodness. We had Kash Patel move forward and fire everybody involved with the CR-15 unit that worked with Jack Smith. For Jack Smith, we have written a letter to refer him to the Office of Professional Conduct over at the DOJ. And the findings from that would give us the opportunity to move forward with getting him disbarred. We also, as we do our hearings, we think that accountability should be being held accountable to the full extent of the law. not only for Jack Smith, but for these individuals. Would we hope that we see some indictments on this? Yes, because it was criminal and it was a violation of rights. Should there be a trial? Yes, there should be a trial. The American people should not have to worry about their government being weaponized against them because they are from a different political party or have a different opinion.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely, Senator Blackburn. It's always great to hear from you. You know, you got a busy day ahead. And of course, we'll be praying for you. And I think our team listening right now and watching, say a prayer for Senator Blackburn, for all of these people to stand strong in this moment and also, you know, to weather the storm, if you will, because... You all are taking a lot of hits right now. Of course, people are going to be blaming the shutdown and everything that's happening on the wrong. The Republicans will say, no, here's what it is. Here's the truth. And Democrats will be blaming the Republicans. And overhearing conversations happen here in Tennessee where people do get concerned. They get concerned when the SNAP benefits or the air traffic controllers are getting funded, what that's going to look like. But people like you are out there standing strong. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for being a consistent supporter of us here, too. But also... I'm just going to encourage our audience right now, again, as our Washington, D.C. team is really growing right now, as we are having a bigger government affairs operation right now. It's such a big event over the next couple of days in Washington. Say a prayer for our team and say a prayer for people like Senator Blackburn, who are standing strong. Thank you so much for calling in today. That is going to do it for our first half hour. That flew by. Phone lines are open. Hey, Mike and Michael. Look at that. Both of you guys stay on hold. I'm going to get to you coming up here in the next segment. And then 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on the air today. Great time to call in. We're going to continue this discussion talking about Arctic Frost, but also talking about that nuke testing. We've got some good calls about that. I know a lot of you have been involved in that and they want to know. And then there's some people who want to call in and talk about SNAP benefits and all of that. I'll take whatever, guys. If you want to talk about those topics today, give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. If you don't get us on your local station for the next half hour, find us live broadcasting each and every day, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern Time on ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, Harvey. Get your podcast later on archived. And, of course, support the work of the ACLJ when you can at ACLJ.org.
SPEAKER 11 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to the second half hour of Sekulow. I am going to take your calls at 1-800-684-3110. Just had Senator Marsha Blackburn on. Got Rick Grinnell joining us in the next segment, so stay tuned for that. And I want to hear from you. We got about one line open right now. I'm sure some of those will open up again at 1-800-684-3110. Big news of the day. President Trump says it's time to reopen our nuclear testing. I think that those words, you know, Especially a year or two after Oppenheimer, you start going, oh, that's a little bit of a concern. But I understand the situation at hand. The situation is Russia's saying, hey, we're testing nukes that can go 8,000 miles. Then on the other hand, you got China saying, we're just a few years behind. And America's like, we got more nukes than anybody, but we've decided not to test it. At the same time, President Trump said, I'm saying this, I'm saying we need to restart testing, but what I really want... It's for all of us to end our nuke programs, to dismantle them, to be done, that this should not be weapons of war that are utilized. So while I appreciate President Trump's want to end it, it is that escalation that you see the concern over where people don't really know what's happening. We have some interesting calls coming in with people that are concerned. I want to go to Michael first in Florida. Michael on YouTube, you're on the air. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 13 :
My biggest issue with kind of, revisiting this whole thing is the fact that we're dealing with leadership who does not hold the same value of human life or collateral damage that we do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, Michael, I feel the same way, which is why, again, the red flags, if you will, start going up. Because you're not talking about Western values here. You're not talking about American values. You are talking about countries that are, like you said, willing to sacrifice where they need to, including human life, that don't value human life the same way. They don't have the freedom of religion like we have here. And some of them have none at all. And it's a very different world. So when you are starting to talk about that, if it doesn't hurt them, they are willing. Obviously, we've seen the Russia-Ukraine battle. We kind of thought, in theory, the threats from Russia, you would have thought that that war would have been over in days. And here we are, multiple years into it, with really not an end in sight. President Trump has had good and bad meetings with Zelensky, good and bad meetings with Putin, none of which seem to be progressing anywhere. And I'd say a prayer again also for President Trump and for our friends in Russia and Ukraine that this could be something that comes to an end soon. I hope it does. But when you start threatening to kick nukes back off. Obviously, there is this bit of a negotiation tool. I think some of you thought, hey, maybe that's what this is with President Trump. Maybe this is just another negotiation point. Because he doesn't say when or where it's going to happen, just that he has told them to start back immediately. What's that look like? Could be small scale, could be big. I think we'll know. I really do. I don't think President Trump is going to say, hey, quietly go test these nukes. I think we're going to know what is happening. 1-800-684-3110. Got three lines open for you. Let's go to Mike, who's calling in New York, watching on the Salem News Channel. Another great outlet for us. Mike, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning or afternoon. Like I told you, I served on nuclear subs during the 60s period and ballistic missile submarines. And we were on station, you know, underwater for two or three months. And they've been on station ever since then. But I remember reading a report sometime around the 70s or 80s where they had found that some of them or a lot of the warheads on these submarines would not have detonated because of some reaction in the warhead. Now, I'm not a weapons specialist, but that's the report I had read. Now, when he talks about testing, I'm not sure what they're testing for it. Certainly not megaton. It's because, you know, we've got 30, 40 megaton warheads already. Normally, they spawn on some submarines. So I'm not quite sure what the test is going to be. But the fact is, the Soviets know we have the subs out there because they always have some trail on us when we're on patrol. Right. So I don't think that's going to be a deterrent for Putin. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mike, we're ahead to break, but yeah, I mean, one, thank you for your service. If you're suffering on those submarines, we appreciate it. The 60s, it's kind of cool. It's cool to hear those stories. But also, I think you're right. We have a lot of these weapons, as he said, President Trump said, and we haven't tested them. And you're right. Maybe these aren't working. Maybe they're not operational. Maybe we make sure we're ready, if ready, if we need to be ready. I'll find out more. We've got more lines open. 1-800-684-3110. Rick Grinnell joining us right after this. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are jammed up. They'll open up 1-800-684-3110. After this segment, I'll take as many of those calls as I can. In our final segment, we're now joined, though, by Senior Advisor for National Security and Foreign Policy here at the ACLJ, longtime friend Rick Grinnell. Rick, of course, when you start saying nukes, you start talking about nuke testing, you The calls come in. The comments come in. People start going, oh, okay, what are we talking about here? That's not necessarily what I expected to wake up to this morning. But I think a lot of people are pushing for, hey, we know that this testing is going on from other countries. And if the goal is actually to end the nuclear programs and to completely wrap this up, we need to get the attention. of China and Russia do you feel like that is what's happening with President Trump or what's the what's the game plan here is the every Americans woke up to probably a push notification on their phone saying President Trump to begin nuke testing
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, I think people need to understand that nuke testing is extremely important. We have to make sure that our stockpiles are working, that they're able to be used. This is about peace through strength. This is not about using them, but making sure that people know that we do have not just a threat, but a credible threat. As a diplomat, as somebody who hates war, I love nuke testing, and here's why. Because when a diplomat is sitting at the table, the best thing in the world is to have president trump behind us saying i want our diplomats to succeed but if we have to transfer this file to the pentagon they don't negotiate so negotiate hard with our diplomats let's make sure that we have a peaceful settlement The alternative is for you to have the entire situation given over to Pete Hegseth at the Department of War. They don't negotiate, they just protect. So I love having a credible threat behind us. And one thing that we've known about President Trump is that he uses the credible threat to make sure that he protects Americans and that the other side always knows that there is a threat of tariffs, some peaceful maneuvering of sanctions or other tools of the United States government. But there's also a possibility of direct military strikes. That combination makes President Trump very credible.
SPEAKER 04 :
You've been in those rooms. You've sat down with a lot of these people. And I do think that you're right in that notion, thinking that they're very different. We had a call come in and say, hey, a lot of these countries we're talking about here, they value human life very differently. It's a lot of different concerns that are going on, whether that's economic sanctions or whatever it may be. you know, having those tools, as you said, especially when President Trump has been more than willing, especially with early on, you know, there's certainly a breaking point for him. And I think maybe, you know, we're getting there in terms of Russia and everything that's going on, where he's been willing to sit down and have these meetings and try to figure out all of the peaceful ways to get things done. Unlike the Biden administration, who decided, no, if we deem you a quote unquote bad guy, we're not even going to return your calls.
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, I think people need to calm down here and realize that we're having an adult conversation. We're talking about being prepared, not pulling the trigger. And there's a huge difference. And if you're the US government, put yourself in the situation where you're the leader of the free world. You can't just say, we're giving up all of our nukes and so come get us. You have to be able to be smart about protecting the American people. President Trump has demonstrated over and over and over again that he values human life, that he rescues our hostages, that he's protecting the American people, both from a prosperous standpoint and from a national security standpoint. And so we need to be able to make sure that we have a credible threat, not just a threat. This is exactly what the president is doing. People need to
SPEAKER 04 :
uh listen very carefully to what is being discussed and not get duped by the media into thinking that something else is happening that's right the headline like i said the push notification a lot of us got didn't leave or happened to you know very nicely leave off the next part which was saying uh my you know my plan is that there should be no nukes that we need to do nuclearize the world that we need to be talking with that needs to be the plan if we talk with russia we're talking with china we're going to end this entire program if possible But before we can end it, as you said, we need to make sure things are operational when Russia says, hey, we have one that can go 8000 miles. And you go, OK, well, OK, well, maybe we should be at least looking into it. Oh, yeah. Whether that's true or not, this is coming from Russia. Who knows? But of course, you can't take those threats not seriously. I did want to move a little bit.
SPEAKER 06 :
I make one one point because I think what you just brought up is really good. The headline is different than the story. But look, we need to be as consumers of news. We need to be very smart about what's happening. The media is a business. People get it through your head. They want you to click on things. They're going to say outrageous, outlandish, clickable things. You need to be smart enough to read. You have a responsibility. Read. Don't just look at something and jump to conclusions and post on Facebook.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, it's a tough thing, Rick. I'll be honest with you. I talk to our team every day about, you know, you got to have something. They'll push for me to say, here's what we're going to say for the headline. And we have to have this conversation to go back and forth. The social media team says, this is what's going to work. This is what... YouTube is going to serve. That's also the truth is that what's getting served. It's not necessarily always cut and dry. It's about will people click over? Not only will they click over, but will it actually make it in front of the eyeballs? It is a game. It's sadly a game that a lot of us have to play.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, of course. Of course, this is the business of media and the competition that we face right now. So it's incredibly important for the consumers of news to look at multiple news sources and dig a little deep. You have a responsibility. You can't just be a sheep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, then let's talk about the one story that seems to keep coming up and keep coming up. And that is, of course, the media's freak out over some comments that came in about a third term for President Trump. I feel like this just keeps it's another story. It's the ballroom of this week that just keeps rolling on. I just got to get your thoughts. This, you know, it feels like President Trump will sometimes push it forward a little bit. But he said pretty clearly, you know, I don't think I could do it. I'm pretty sure that's not allowed.
SPEAKER 06 :
but you know what if you want to keep talking about it we're not going to stop the story look i just got a hat that says trump 2028 i love it because i love the conversations that ensue Do I think that Trump is running in 2028? No, I don't. And people, you know, we need to use a little humor here. And if the media is a business, don't hate the billionaire who is an amazing businessman who knows what sells. And that's President Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's not only that. I mean, there is the message points of, look, the Republican Party, I think, in general, was changed forever with President Trump. And I think that we'd be lying to ourselves to think it's going to go back in some ways anytime in the near future. So I think when you hear a Trump 2028, it's not necessarily saying President Trump. It's saying, look, this is probably a similar agenda that could be moving forward.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a fantastic spin. Can I start using that, Logan?
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Of course. It's all yours, Rick. Just don't quote me. You can just keep it yourself. I don't need to be showing up on any websites anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm saying as Logan Sekulow told me. That's my new answer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, absolutely. Rick, I want to say we appreciate you calling in because it's always good to hear from you. And we've talked about nukes. Now we've talked about Trump third term. The only other thing we haven't talked about, and I think you can... maybe briefly discuss this of course we spent a lot of time this morning and the last it feels like the last 10 years I think we've talked about Jack Smith here and now Arctic Frost where we've seen now more pushes and pushes and more releases saying not only was it the people that are around President Trump they don't was like a senator that may have called him once to now saying that they they were looking at the phone records of major media organizations fox uh cbs even uh sinclair that it just seems like that it keeps going deeper and deeper as someone who was there uh rick it's someone that you know what it's like on the inside uh how you feeling about all this
SPEAKER 06 :
First of all, let's just say thank you, Chuck Grassley. If you live in Iowa, if you see Chuck Grassley, you have to thank him for all of his work on this. I loved working with him when I was DNI. He is someone who is digging into these issues. He doesn't just take the government's word for it, no matter who's in charge. He's the one who unearthed this. And we see Jack Smith is somebody who has literally been politicizing all of these investigations. I hope he's prosecuted.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Well, Rick, thank you so much for joining us again today, as always. Hope you have a good rest of your day. And as I've said with all of our guests today, say a prayer for Rick and his team as well, because it's not easy to go do these jobs. And our team at the ACLJ, like I said, as we've been expanding and our Washington, D.C. team and the Jordan is running right now. And that's why you'll see he'll pop on, do a date. He's here and there because he is running what's going on in Washington, D.C., along with an incredible group of new people. You've heard some of our guests that we've had on this week, and you've kind of shown some of those new lawyers or head of government affairs. And I like that. I like that you're able to see what's going on there as our studios are expanding, our offices are expanding, the legal work is growing, the government affairs work is growing. It's all growing, but it only grows because people like you support the work of the ACLJ. So I just want to take a minute because in the next segment, I'm going to take all the calls. Right now, we've got three lines open, though, so you can call in, 1-800-684-3110. But I just want to take this minute to say thank you to everyone that supports the ACLJ, that gives financially. I think even if you don't give financially, you should watch this show. Maybe you just hit that subscribe button. It's free on YouTube. That helps us out a ton. But for those that do give, specifically our ACLJ champions that give on a monthly basis, I just want to say thank you and know that we're about to head into, it's October 30th. It's my son's birthday. And it's a big time for the ACLJ. We're about to head into the two most important months of the year for any nonprofit organization, November and December. So begin to pray. Obviously, if you can support the work today, do it today. But if you need time, begin to pray about supporting the work of the ACLJ as part of your end of the year giving, because it is going to be a hectic time. Things never slow down. So go to ACLJ.org. A lot of great free content there. I want to make sure we can always provide all of this content without a paywall. So do it at ACLJ.org. Give today if you can. If you're in the comments right now on YouTube and Rumble, throw in where you're watching from. I'd love to see that in the break. I'll read a lot off coming up. Welcome back to Sekulow. We're going to take some calls. And my brother, Jordan Sekulow, just reached out and said he'd like to call in. He's been doing some important work and going to some pretty big places like the White House over the last few days. So we want to hear from him. So let's kick it off with some calls. Before we do that, if you're watching on YouTube, I asked for it, but I haven't seen any come through. Let me know where you're watching from. Throw it in the comments right now. If you're one of the 2,000 or 3,000 people that are watching on YouTube, Rumble Hover may be when we do the show live. Hundreds of thousands of you watch it later. Throw it in the comments. Where are you watching from? I'd love to see that. Let's go ahead and take some phone calls. Let's go just in the order they came in. Bob's calling on line six. Bob, you're on the air in Indiana.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you, sir, for everything you do. Thank you. I have several comments before I get to my point. One comment is thank you for the flashbacks of standing out in the cold holding a weapon protecting these nuclear weapons from the Cold War. That's number one. Number two, I'm actually calling in about the, uh, the standoff there between the Republicans and the Democrats. I urge everybody to call two Oh two, two, two, four, three, one, two, one, and call their senators. Okay, cool.
SPEAKER 04 :
Make sure we're giving out the proper numbers. Go ahead. Two Oh two.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, no. We're good. We got it. We got it. Continue on. Yep. Okay. Now my, my theory is, The Democrats are doing this now because they don't want to kick the can down another road into next year. Next year is a politician's nightmare because everybody's going to be voting. They don't want the public to know. And I think that's why they're doing it now instead of next year.
SPEAKER 04 :
They're certainly playing politics with it, Bob. They're seeing who is it going to affect if their spin saying that this is, you know, if the Democrats can say this is the Republicans' fault and the Republicans are being honest and say, no, look, here's what it is. It's the same that we've passed for multiple years and here's where we're at. You just heard from Senator Blackburn talking about that. But then you also have the feet put to the fire when it comes to things like, hey, fine, if you really care about this, about people, here are the ways we can help people. Let's get air traffic control back operating you paid for and let's get, uh our snap benefits the food assistance programs back going and funded because our people need it temporarily or maybe they need it for longer but you know what that's not for us to judge there but you know at this point if we're providing it we need to do it and of course there's been very little movement on that we'll see what happens uh let's push forward and go to janna who's now caller yana i'm sorry yana you are on the air in pennsylvania
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, very exciting. I've never done this before. Thanks for calling. I had a comment about Russia and about all this new craziness that can happen with the nuclear race because this is, to me, not a good thing. When I heard what President Trump said last night, it kind of rubbed me the wrong way because this can just cause unnecessary arm race again like it was Back since the 50s, we didn't know this craziness. Russia, USA, everybody is aware and people read and really know what's going on. Whatever happened when the Russians showed these big guns was deterrence. It was strictly deterrence. I know that mentality, Soviet mentality. I don't think that President Putin is threatening America. I don't think he even wants to use it. But what's been going on coming from the Europeans for all the leaders there who are just claiming this crazy narrative that Putin is not going to stop in Ukraine, he's going to take all over Europe, which is absolute madness. My family lives in Europe. I'm European. And when they even hear it, like the regular people, they are just shaking their heads and they cannot believe what kind of leaders they have right now in European Union. It is warmongering about something that will never happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, I hope you're right that it'll never happen. I think, look, the reason we have an ECLJ, a European Center for Law and Justice, to make sure that we are also keeping a hold on that. Of course, we used to be active in Russia. Of course, that had to end with the war. But look, I think a lot of us saw that headline. And you're right, that pit in your stomach moment did happen. Of course, you fully listened to President Trump and what he had to say. He is calling for the end of the nuke program. But yeah. yeah that first part of it i totally get it and someone like you clearly has lived through it and been through it you don't want to go through it now you say you know everyone remembers it i think we have a whole generation that does not that doesn't they're either they're too far away from it or they never were around for anything like this in terms of our relationship with europe our relationship with russia so i appreciate you calling in uh yana always feel free to call into the show anytime and i'm glad you did and let's see quickly let's go to alex alex if you could just go pretty quick because we're going to run out of time
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Hey, super fast, just want to know, did we ever hear a follow-up report on that China spy balloon? Did we ever get an understanding about the technology on there and what it achieved or anything? But thank you for taking my call, and thanks for being there, guys.
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Yeah, obviously, that was a big story that feels like ancient history. Of course, that was only a couple years ago. They claimed that it was a weather balloon or some sort of something they were doing. And I'm not sure we ever got... total information of what it was other than there was electronics and sensors and they were looking over it um i'll look into it and see what actually ended up being the final answer to that but of course we all have our thoughts on what it truly was and they just said hey it drifted off course it just was what it is remember that it all feels like distant memories we're talking about two years ago That's the crazy part with all of this. It feels like every news story moves on and we move on so fast. But thank you for calling, Alex. I'll do have to do some diving into that. But of course, China is one of the concerns. One of the reasons President Trump said we need to start testing is because China's only a few years behind. And clearly they can get stuff into our airspace if we just remember a couple of years ago. Jordan's joining us now. Jordan, we got two and a half minutes. I'll let you take most of this. Tell us what's going on in Washington, D.C.
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So we're in Washington, D.C. We're partnering the ACLJ with CPAC, an organization I know people know, Matt, Mercedes Schlapp, and the events they do here in the United States and around the world. We just got back from one over the summer in Hungary. uh partnering with the eclj but we're now partnering together with cpac on a new effort uh to unite uh many different groups with the white house yesterday at a summit today at the kennedy center with multiple aclj attorneys and may also participating to end uh christian persecution and to kind of use all the different resources the legal resources the policy resources and also to make sure that christians in the united states kind of the the where this all emanates from to protect our christian brothers and sisters because we have the resources are doing this in a unified way through our government. And last night, we kicked it off at the Museum of the Bible, and I want to play this. Speaker Johnson came by to make some remarks. I wanted to play this for our audience. We're filming all of the panels that we're doing right now. We'll get that. I'll be on the air either tomorrow or Monday, too, to talk more about what we did here exactly. But I want to play Speaker Johnson and what he had to say just about the ACLJ and our work.
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I just I just want to say I just want to wholeheartedly endorse this effort. And my background was in the defense of religious freedom in the courts. And I worked for Eli's Defense Fund for a long time, arm and arm with the seculos. And and Jay was a it was like a mentor of mine. I used to literally carry his briefcase around when you were too young to do it. And and I just mean, between these things. these families, the Sekulos and the Greens and the Schlapps, I mean, the work that's being done is really, I do believe it is for this moment. I believe it's providential. I think we all know, we all recognize this is a chief need, the persecution around the globe.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, there you go, guys. I mean, that is the Speaker of the House during a shutdown, still taking that time and making those remarks just about the influence of the ACLJ here in the United States and now around the world. I'll talk to you more about it, Logan, when we get back from Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. I mean, amazing clip. Glad you're doing that work there. Washington, that's why Jordan is there. It's why that team is growing because you can see the influence now. When you have those conversations, when you hear that, you know supporting the work of the ACLJ is important. So I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org today. Make a donation if you can. If you're thinking about it, praying about it, know that in a couple days, as we kick off next week, November and December, most important weeks or months of the year, that we're going to need your support, you're going to hear about it. We're going to ask you for it at ACLJ.org. Talk to you later.
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All right, Hour 2, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, how are you, sir?
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Good afternoon, John. We're doing fantastic. Thank you.
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All right, we've all been given gifts, music that inspires American hearts. Talk to us about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, one of the things that we've had people in government try to do is make everyone equitable or equal, and people that have multiple kids know that you can't do that regardless of your parenting style. But we've all received gifts at birth that we have the opportunity to develop, and that development and service from those gifts helps others. And so this is an example of one from a field we haven't talked about, but one that inspires us all when we hear his creations.
SPEAKER 16 :
I've said this many times, although probably not enough, Richard. I don't have a musical bone in my body. I can somewhat sing a tune. That's about the extent of it. Don't play any instruments. Never tried. Never learned. Never had a desire to. I can play the radio. That's about it. And I admire those individuals that do those things so well because that's not how my brain works.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, exactly. And as I've told you before, I'm the only person I know that was asked to lip sync in the second grade Christmas pageant. Good one. So I know. And I realized a few years ago that a lot of the personal development classes I took in business or other places, they would focus on areas that we weren't strong and try to help us develop those. And just lately, I attended one where it focused on our strengths. Yep. And so the better we develop our strengths, the better we can impact people and we can let other people who are strong at the areas we're not strong serve those areas.
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Absolutely. No, I'm a big believer in that. In fact, I might even chime in after we're done in the next segment about that because I think that's really key for young people especially. But talk to us about these particular – let's talk about music. I mean, that's really what we're talking about here, Richard, and something that I'm a big fan of. I love music. I'm not very good at creating it, but I sure love it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Well, the person that I wanted to highlight today is John Philip Sousa, and we have him in Americans Who Made America, the 19th century volume. And on October 1st, 1880s, when he became the conductor for the United States Marine Corps Band. His birthday is next week, the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps coming up in about 10 days as well, which is part of the reason we picked him. But he illustrated that he was gifted in music, and he developed it beyond what most people do, and it presents us gifts too. every day and every time we hear it all right so give us some examples of some of the things he left us or he gave us i should say let me say it that way our national he was known as the march king he wrote over 130 marches and so a lot of times when you see parades and you see military bands or others performing marches they're his our national march is the stars and stripes forever right And the Marine Corps march is Semper Fidelis. I know everyone will recognize those songs when they see them, and they were written so long ago, but they will still stir hearts and get our feet tapping when we hear those play.
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Very well said. No, very well said. Okay, so he does these things, and yet – and by the way, this is the nice thing about music. I think even more so, Richard, than – I mean, art and poems and literature and things like that, I mean, it lasts for a very long time as well. Don't get me wrong. But there's something about music that – We have an oldie station. It's a sister station here called Legends here next door. It's just a couple of doors down from where I'm at right now. And we play oldies on it continually. And there's something about music, Richard, that is just everlasting. I don't know how else to say it.
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Well, that's exactly correct. And what's interesting, the music that he composed are probably the most famous songs in our country next to the Star Spangled Banner. And that's what's amazing. Most of the people that conduct bands, few will compose things. Very few will reach the heights. John Williams here contemporaneously said, probably the most noted composer that we have, but not even he has composed things that reached as many generations as Sousa did. And what's interesting to me is He wanted to write and did write other types of music as well, but it was the marches that people loved and very patriotic music back before the globalism attacked us, if you will, and when people of both parties loved the country and most people loved America and loved celebrating America.
SPEAKER 16 :
Before the Marxists started to take over is what you're trying to say.
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Well, yes.
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That's exactly what it is. All right, talk to us about some of his famous quotes and things that he believed in.
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Well, one of the things I think is important was that he recognized that it wasn't he that was composing this great music that was celebrated by so many people. And he said, "...any composer who is gloriously conscious that he is a composer must believe that he receives his inspiration from a source higher than himself." And I think that's important because so often today we see successful music people, and almost all of them are self-focused and believe that they are the only creation creating this particular music, if you will. They don't recognize the divine providence involved. And so he had that humble spirit that I think enabled him to hear the inspiration and create the music.
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By the way, I can't disagree with him on that because, again, as I was telling you, I marvel at people that can do this. They can take just even a piece of regular notebook paper and draw lines across it and put musical notes on it and words to it. And I just sit there and think, how does your brain do that? Because my brain doesn't have that functionality at all, Richard.
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Well, no, and if we – Translate that into other areas. If we as parents and grandparents, if we can help young people identify their gifts early and then start to work on those gifts and develop them and let them know that the gift isn't just theirs, but they have a responsibility to develop it and use it to help other people. And Adam Smith, the great Scottish philosopher back in the 18th century, wrote The Wealth of Nations. And one of the things he recognized was when people pursued their self-interest and utilized their unique gifts, that it came together to help the country be better because we all are better together when we're all using our gifts uniquely to help each other.
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He has a quote that I did not know came from him. I know most people know this quote, and they probably have no idea where the originator of said quote was, and that's the dance as though, and I'll let you finish it, because I don't think most people know that's where it came from, Richard.
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Well, I think most people would be shocked. Agree, I am. And he said, dance as though no one is watching. Love as though you've never been hurt. Sing as though no one can hear you. Love as though heaven is on earth. And that is so profound and so true. And if we think about how we can incorporate that into our lives and the freedom that would give us that, to live better lives. That's what's so important. And with that freedom, then we can do more than we're doing, and we can help more, and we can impact more people for longer periods.
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What he really is saying there, really, in a nutshell, is time is short, have fun, live in the right way, and don't worry about what everybody else thinks.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, exactly, and we've talked about that another way before about society and culture wants us to compare ourselves to other people. Right. And how do we compare with the Joneses, so to speak? That's right. And as we've said, the only thing that matters is are we better today than yesterday, and what can I do tomorrow to be better than I am today? Absolutely. And when we do that, that releases us from this – anxiety and gives us a freedom to go out and just develop ourselves.
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Absolutely. Well said. Richard, that's a great way to close out. I appreciate your time. RichardBattle.com is the website. What can folks find there, by the way, especially as we head down this stretch into the holidays?
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Well, thank you. All books at richardbattle.com are signed. If you would like something for a gift, email me, richard at richardbattle.com. The Americans Who Made America, the 18th century and 19th century volumes are great gifts for young people. They will inspire people to achieve more than they think they can, because we highlight that American do spirit.
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Awesome. As always, Richard, appreciate you very much. Enjoy the rest of your day, sir. My pleasure. God bless America. God bless you, Richard. Have a great evening. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith, and he did an interview of late. Listen in. Don't forget, Al's got his own program right before ours on Wednesdays, 2 to 2.30 here on KLZ. Find him at klzradio.com.
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This is TJ with KLZ Radio, and once again, we have Al Smith with us from Golden Eagle Financial. And Al, we're coming up on the end of the year, and I figure there's probably quite a few things that a retirement planner has to do to prepare for the new year, yes?
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Well, there are a couple of things that have a just 31st deadline that we talk to some of our clients about. If people are thinking about converting part of their traditional IRA to Roth, they're that needs to be done before December 31st and we don't usually wait until the last week in December because the financial companies get really busy so it's a good idea to address that in November and usually by then people have a pretty good idea how much money they have earned, and we can guesstimate their tax bracket.
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So you're just basically helping them reach out to figure out what sort of distribution they should get from an investment?
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Well, not so much distribution, but if they're younger people, they may have a longer-term strategy to convert traditional IRA to Roth. And that will add income to their income tax they pay each year. And we usually wait till near the end of the year because by then people know what tax bracket they will be in. But it has to be done before December 31st.
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Excellent. And that's why we trust you, Al. How can people get in touch with you if they want to start their retirement planning adventure with you?
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That's a good way to describe it as an adventure. You can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if you're driving when you hear this, contact KLZ and they'll put me in contact with you. All right. Thanks for joining us today, Al. Thank you for having me.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Debra's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, I'm changing topics here because I had something I was going to slip in here because Sonny Kutcher is normally with us at 430, but she had something come up, so she just texted me a moment ago. So don't have any guests now until the top of the hour. And dovetailing into what Richard said a moment ago, it's something that I touch on occasionally and probably need to talk about. more and in I apologize cuz we've got young people especially the listen to us and I'm by the way I'm extremely thankful thankful for every listener but I am extremely thankful for our young listeners and I mean that sincerely it means a lot to me that we've got people out there listening that are literally in their early teens, mid-teens, late teens. I hear from some of you. There's probably a lot more listening that I don't hear from because maybe you're shy and you don't want to reach out, but I encourage you, please reach out. I love talking to young people. You guys are the next generation, literally. And I want to pour into you guys as much as I can. So I appreciate all of the young people that listen. And I appreciate all of you adults, by the way, that have young people that listen. And you probably encourage them too, which I appreciate greatly as well. But I want to dovetail into some of what Richard was talking about a moment ago. And that's the whole, you know, strengths, building up strengths. And in a lot of ways, building up strengths to overcome your weaknesses. I'm a big one on, and I didn't used to think this way. I had a good mentor at one time that gave me a book. It's called Strengths Finders. And it's a great book to figure out what are your strengths and strength finders. That whole book is based upon the premise of, you know what, we all have weaknesses. Yet the majority of people try to fix those weaknesses. In fact, a lot of even leadership development and coaches and so on, they'll work on helping people fix weaknesses, which isn't always bad. There are times where those need to be fixed, yes. But far too often, people spend so much time on their weaknesses, they don't develop their strengths. So this whole StrengthsFinder book, and there's a test that goes with it and so on, it's really encouraging you to build out your strengths even more and have those overcome some of the weaknesses. And by the way, I agree with that premise. And I think one of the things that we do to young people that's a total injustice is we want to mold them into what we want them to be. rather than allowing to be the individuals God created, helping them along that way, helping them to develop their strengths so that at the end of the day they know exactly what they want to do, where they want to go, how they can fit in, how they can make money, how they can feed families, and so on. But unfortunately, a lot of... Parents even, coaches, a good coach, by the way, knows where to put people and how to help build strengths, but there's not all good coaches out there, unfortunately. There's some bad ones as well. I think teachers can make some of these mistakes. Guidance counselors can make these mistakes. You know, they try to get kids to do things that maybe they're not even good at, not even their strength. By the way, I would encourage every parent. You might know this on your own, but if you don't, if you don't really know what your kids' strengths are, there's plenty of tests. This book you could buy, have them take the test, have them read the book. You read the book. You take the test. And at the end of the day, you'll know what their strengths are. Now, again, typically parents, you know the strengths of your kids. And you know what you could build upon when it comes to those strengths. And the reason why I say know what their strengths are is because I think far too often, individuals young people then they become adults they see what somebody else does and they want to be that we just talked about a music composer uh clear back from the 1800s that was richard's main character that we talked about today and there's lots of people that would love to be like that you know i want to i want to be a you know i want to write music i want to be in a band i want to be a singer i want to do this i want to do that you know by the way great great aspirations Can you carry a tune? Can you handle a beat? Can you play the drums? Can you play a guitar? Do you even understand how all that works? And does your mind work in a way that really does connect? Because, by the way, mine doesn't. I love music and listen to music. Ask my wife. She knows that firsthand. I love music. I really do. All kind. There's only a few kind of music I don't like, but I like most music. Not a big classical guy. Sorry, some of you that love classical music, that stuff puts me to sleep. Not a big classical guy, but most every other music, except for maybe some of the weird rap stuff, I can pretty much tolerate, listen to, and I have favorites. But I like all kind of music. Now, would I do well in a band? No, I'd suck at it. It's not me. I don't really have any kind of rhythm. I mean, it's not in my nature to do those things at all. As much as I love music and would have been one of those young kids to probably even go join a band and do some of those things, I would have been awful at that. Not me. Now, give me the instruments to fix, and yeah, I'm okay there. Give me the stage to set up. Give me the organizational sides of things to actually help them be on tour and do all the things necessary to make all of that work and so on. Yeah, I'm good at that stuff. I can do that all day long. But don't put me in the band. Don't put me up on stage singing. Now, you can put me up on stage talking, as you guys all know, because I do that daily. That's easy for me. But yeah, don't put me up there singing and doing anything along those lines. That's not my forte. And by the way, growing up in the church that I did, and Charlie would understand this, you did those things as a young person, period, because you kind of got forced to. You didn't have any choice. Whether you were good at it or not, you sang in the choir, you did this, you did that, because you didn't have any choice. It really was forced upon you, and I hated every minute of that. That's why I knew at that point in time, this is not for me. But unfortunately, there's a lot of parents and folks listening out there even right now where you've got somebody in your life, a young person in your life, and you're probably a huge influence in their life. You may or may not know that. What you encourage them to do is going to make a huge difference in their life, but far too often we either don't recognize that or, in some cases, we try to get kids to do something they're not designed to do. God didn't make them to do that. By the way, that's the whole problem we've got with the whole transgenderism end of things. Kids don't know who they are. If kids knew their strengths and knew who they were, this transgenderism thing would end tomorrow. It wouldn't exist. That tells you that, parentally speaking, in schools especially, we don't know what their strengths are, and so we come at them with this, well, what do you want to be? That's the dumbest thing to ever ask a kid. especially when they're little. They want to be all sorts. I want to be Superman. Well, yeah, we all do, but that ain't going to happen. You know, I want to be this. I want to be that. Well, is that one of your strengths? You know, Jimmy, is that your strength? Sally, you know, is that really what you're good at? You know, I want to be the next, you know, Taylor Swift. I can't imagine being, but... Yuck, but whatever. I mean, sorry for all the Taylor Swifties, or what do they call themselves, Swifties, Charlie? Sorry for all the Swifties out there. Sorry, I didn't mean to say it that way. She doesn't do anything for me, by the way. Just side note. But there's a lot of even young people that, you know, they idolize that sort of stuff, and that's what they want to be, so they work towards that, and yet they suck at it. And then we wonder why some of these people are, and this is what I'm going to dovetail into, we wonder why they're on SNAP and welfare. Well, because nobody ever taught them what they're good at. And even fostered that. And as Richard said earlier, every single person, no matter who you are, has a particular talent. That's how God makes us. And this is where I'm so big on, no, we're not equal. We are created equal under the law, but we are not equal. Not even close. And this whole idea of equity and inclusion and that everybody is the same, folks, that's a lie. That's a lie from the left. We are not the same. We are not created equal. Yes, like I said, we're equal under the law, and we're all equal when it comes to the rule of law. We should be. That's the way it's supposed to be. But we're not equal. I am not Charlie. Charlie is not me. I am not you. You are not me. I am not my wife. She is not me. We're all different. We all have different talents and things that we're good at and things that we're not so good at. One thing that my wife always tells me, and I know this is an area that is a huge weakness for me, I have very little patience. Hardly any. I'm a guy that I hate waiting in a drive-up line, and I don't go to drive-ups hardly ever, but when we do, it drives me crazy because they're not fast. This whole idea of fast food, that's a big fat lie, by the way, because it ain't fast. I mean, you could even just be rolling through for a drink or something. It's not fast, and I have no patience, especially for that, because you're advertising it's fast. It's not. You lied. So I know I have no patience. My wife is the first to remind me of that on a routine basis. I have little to no patience. I've always been that way because I am a high-energy guy, as you guys all know. And I don't have room to dink around with stuff. So I don't have a lot of patience. And sometimes to a fault. Not sometimes. A lot of times to a fault. Because I will do and say things at times where I probably should have stepped back, listened a little differently, approached that differently. But because I don't have the right patience, I don't approach that correctly. So that's a weakness of mine. Patience. So in my world, because I know that's a weakness, yes, I can work on having more patience. And I do consider that and work on that as much as I can. But what I do to overcome that weakness is I build on the strengths that I have. I'm very well organized. I'm a great time manager. I do really well at those sorts of things. And so if I do all of those well, guess what? The patience thing just kind of comes along because there's nothing to have anxiety over on the patience end if you've got everything else all dialed in. So, again, I've learned how to work on my own strengths to make myself better. And what I'm getting at is we don't do that well enough with young people. We do the opposite, actually. You know, do what you love and you'll always feed your family. That's the dumbest advice ever, by the way. If I hear any guidance counselor, teacher, any adult say that to a kid, I want to backhand them. You are so wrong. That is the dumbest thing, the most idiotic thing you could ever tell a young person. Just do what you love. You'll always feed your family. You'll always have food on the table. No, you'll be broke in most cases. If you're not good at what you love and you suck at it, you're going to be broke. You're going to be on EBT and food stamps. Snap. Because somebody sold you a bill of goods. You were told, oh, yeah, if you do what you really love and enjoy, you know what? You'll be it. You'll have it made. If you want to be the best artist in the world, But you can't draw a stick figure? How's that going to work out? By the way, that's me. I'm doing good to draw a stick figure. Don't ask me to paint a picture. I'm not Bob Ross. Not at all. So don't ask me to be. I can't paint trees like Bob Ross does and lakes and mountain scenes and all the stuff that Bob used to paint. That's not me. I can't do that. It's not in my brain. If I'd have gone down that path, I would be broke today. Fortunately, I did have parents, my father especially, where he knew what my talents were. He fostered those talents, and I did very well at those things. And he knew what I was good at. Now, I will say this, and I can say this now. My father's gone. My brother's gone. If both of them were alive, they'd be in here laughing with me. But I think one thing that my dad did try to do is, because I was as mechanically minded as I was and could pretty much take apart, put back together, work on things, even from a child. I'm not exaggerating. You can ask my family. That was me. My dad, I think, thought my brother should be the same. And so in a lot of ways, my dad kind of, in a way, forced my brother to do some of those things, and yet that wasn't my brother's forte. My brother became a minister. He was not somebody that went around fixing things like me. He fixed people, but he didn't fix physical things. Now, my brother and I love each other dearly, and I'll see him again someday, but we are polar opposites. My brother's a people fixer. I'm a thing fixer. I don't fix people. I'm the kind of guy to tell you, this is where you're screwing up, go fix it, see me later. You can't do that, in ministry especially. So this is an example, though, of my own father whereby, because I was one way and I was the oldest, he thought my brother, who was next in line, should be the same, and he wasn't. Now, fortunately for my brother and my folks, they finally realized some of this, and they changed their approach and so on, and it all worked out in the end. But my brother and I were completely opposite. And what I'm getting at is I think a lot of young people today struggle because, first of all, they're fed with you've got to go to college, got to go to college, got to go to college. And no, they don't. And, oh, if you go to college and get this degree, then you'll be successful at X. Maybe not. You know, there's all sorts of professions out there. And unfortunately, a lot of these kids get sent down the wrong path. And by the time they realize they took the wrong path, it's too late. And they're ingrained in something else and they're miserable the rest of their life. And I'm sorry to say that's a lot of people. Some of you listening are that. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry that's the case because it shouldn't be that way. Now, I also believe in this. It's never too late. If you don't like what you do and you're not good at it, but you kind of got stuck into it in the first place because of some of what I'm talking about, change. Change careers. It's never too late. Do something different. Now, again, I'm the opposite of don't just go do what you enjoy because if you're not good at it, it's not going to get you very far. Now, here's where it really gets nice. If you're really good at something and you enjoy it, okay, now you're golden. And it does happen. For me, I love fixing stuff. Now, for me, as a business owner, I did have to make a shift. I love fixing things. But there was a point in time in my career where I knew I had to work on my business and not in the business, meaning I had to hire people to do the fixing, which is what I was doing at one time. And I had to make that switch over and become an owner. And I'll be honest, that was not an easy transition because that wasn't who I was at that time. I had to change my mindset. So where I'm going with this is back to what Richard kind of started with is, yes, work on your strengths. Use those to overcome your weakness. Teach your kids and your young people, some of you that are mentors and coaches and teachers and so on that are listening to me, learn how to do that with young people, and you'll have a lot more successful young people around you if you do that because we, collectively, we don't teach what I just said near enough, in my opinion. So I'll leave it at that. Got more to talk about when we come back on other subjects. Appreciate you guys very much. 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SPEAKER 16 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 08 :
John, a couple things. I want a little quiz for you about musicians. First, you know what they call a guy who's always hanging around with a bunch of musicians?
SPEAKER 16 :
No. The drummer. Good one. Good one. I never heard that one. Good one.
SPEAKER 08 :
And what do you call a musician who doesn't have a girlfriend?
SPEAKER 16 :
Unemployed. Homeless. Homeless. Okay, so I was close. Home's close.
SPEAKER 08 :
Close. And getting back to, John, doing what you love, you know, I wasn't sure, but, you know, I started when I was about 12 or 13, started working at my grandparents' ranch all summer. Yeah. I mean, that was my job. And, you know, when you're 30 miles from town and you've got tractors and hay rakes and balers and mowing machines and well water pumps and hay conveyors, John, you know, learning how to maintain and fix that stuff and learn about universal joints and shafts, I just had this love of, okay, what's wrong with this thing? How are we going to fix it? How do we take it apart? How do we, you know, how do we get this old bearing off? How do we replace the bearing? And that's what prompted me to select engineering as a career. Nice. And, you know, as a course of study. Now, I tell people, I learned more about the principles of engineering working on my grandparents' ranch for seven years or eight years than I did in engineering school. But what I did learn in engineering school was, okay, how do you figure out how big that shaft has to be? You know, does it, is, is two, is it two inches enough or does it have to be four inches? You know, that's where you learn to calculate, you know, so, you know, so, you know, don't get me wrong. I value the, the engineering education I got. It was a great education. So I can, So to this day, I can design things. But in terms of how things worked, the time I spent – and it wasn't just summers. Every spring break, every winter recess I had, I would go up there and work on the ranch too. But I tell you, you work on a farm, and there's this incredible array of mechanical equipment. You wouldn't believe how much mechanical equipment there is.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, of course, you're doing your own – you're doing your own wiring, you know, yeah, we need to run some lights over here, so, you know, we're running Romex cable, we're installing light fixtures, we're changing out switches, you know, we're swapping out incandescents for lessons, so I learned about wiring, you know, we had, of course, we had well pumps, running water pumps, installing electrical outlets. To this day, John, that's why all my neighbors, wherever I live, my neighbors always went to me to be, Joe's the fix-it guy. We got a problem called Joe. He's got the tools and knowledge. In fact, One of my good friends at the gym the other day said, hey, we've got a bad dimmer switch that my wife wants me to call electrician. Do you know how to change out a dimmer switch? Yeah, piece of cake. Piece of cake. Just five minutes.
SPEAKER 16 :
And he said, you just saved me $150. Yep. And, Joe, you bring up a great point because I think – And I don't think I'm wrong on what I said earlier about, you know, the direction that we send young people in. And I really do mean this. If young people from an earlier age, I mean, we've got a lot of transgender nonsense that starts to happen. I mean, yeah, it happens in some cases at a really early age because the parents are absolute, complete, utter moron knuckleheads, Joe. I'm not talking about those particular situations. We've got kids that are in their, you know, middle school to teenage years. And, you know, they start wondering, you know, who am I and am I in the wrong body and so on. And frankly, Joe, I don't know about you, but that thought for me, I had so many other things going on. That thought never crossed my mind because I knew from an early age like you what I really liked, enjoyed, what I was good at. It didn't take me long to figure that out. I didn't have to have anybody tell me I needed to stay a boy.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, you and me both, John. Again, that thought never crossed my mind. I knew what I liked doing. I enjoyed that, you know, because to me, you know, working with mechanical equipment, number one, it starts with problem solving. What's, you know, what's wrong with this thing? Correct. Critical thinking. Critical thinking. You know, you go through a troubleshooting, mental troubleshooting. Why is this not doing what it's supposed to be doing? By the way, have you ever looked at the innards of a bailing machine, including the little thing that ties the knots?
SPEAKER 16 :
Masterful. Unbelievable, Joe.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's got a set of fingers that literally ties knots in the strings.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's unbelievable. And really, not to get off track, but to think when some of that was developed, Joe, and the people and the minds that were behind that is just, to me, it's amazing.
SPEAKER 08 :
It really is, John.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, I look at times, and just the way my mind works, you know, I watch the How It's Made show periodically, and I just think, okay, wait a minute. Every single machine that is making these things that we now use when it's all said and done, it's produced, somebody made the machine. There wasn't a machine prior that existed like that. They took a machine, in some cases literally from a blank slate, and made that to produce that. That is ingenious.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, it's funny you mention that. How It's Made is one of my favorite channels as well. And here it's, I think it's on the Discovery Channel on Sunday mornings. And they typically run. Six or seven 30-minute episodes back-to-back. It's one of my favorite shows.
SPEAKER 16 :
And for me, Joe, it's not so much, again, I'm weird, but it's not so much the product that comes out. That's amazing in and of itself. I look at the machines and think to myself, some man designed it, men then built it, and now it produces some widget at the end of the day. But who thought of how to make all that happen in the first place?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the mechanisms, the levers, the heat treating, the racks, the moving, you know, the conveyors, it's just amazing.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's mind-boggling, Joe. I mean, to me, I look at that and think, okay, wait a minute. And again, we, as an industrialized nation, and frankly, folks, yes, I'll plug us in for this, we've done more of that, Joe, than any other nation. Yes, I know a lot of Asian countries and so on have a lot of manufacturing, but we started all that, Joe.
SPEAKER 08 :
We did. And, John, I know I've mentioned this before, but there was a, An analysis done, it's probably 10 years ago, said, you know, the 100 greatest inventions of the 20th century. And all but one came out of capitalist countries because it was a reward. It was because these people took enormous risks. You know, you look at Jobs and Wozniak, you know, they maxed out their credit card. They worked for two years in Wozniak's garage. You look at Willis Carrier, you know, he mortgaged his house. He borrowed money from friends and family to invent, you know, the air conditioning systems. McCormick, you know, the harvester and John Deere and those people. I think if you follow that, the machines, following the men that built America, they had to think about the machines that built America, about the evolution of the tractor and some of those other machines. All those people took enormous risks, and the only reason they took them was because of the chances, as Obama used to derisively refer to it, to become life's lottery winners. Well, yeah, that's because... Yeah, they took a chance. They took the chance because of that, the chance to get a golden ring. And do you remember what the only invention of the 20th century was that didn't come out of a capitalist country?
SPEAKER 15 :
AK-47.
SPEAKER 08 :
AK-47. Killing machine. Right. Now, they didn't say most beneficial. It said the most important. And the AK-47 has been the most widely produced gun in the world. by miles, and it's been responsible for more revolutions and civil wars and overthrowing of governments. So yes, the AK-47 was an important invention. It wasn't beneficial, But it was incredibly important.
SPEAKER 16 :
It was a cheap – it's such a – So, Joe, I want to dovetail really quick because I want to talk about this anyways. And as I watch some of these videos where there's all these SNAP recipients and even some of them yelling that it's my responsibility as a taxpayer to feed their kids, which, no, folks, it's not my responsibility or obligation to feed your kids. All of what you and I, though, just got through talking about, is it because these people – have never had anybody sit down and go through the things that you and I are talking about right now as to why they're on, you know, SNAP and welfare? Or what are your thoughts there?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think, John, I think it is like, you know, when I was, you know, 12, 13, you know, my family wasn't well off. You know, we were blue collar. Yeah, ours either. And, you know, I said, well, I want a bike. And my father said, well, you know.
SPEAKER 16 :
Go work for it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go out. You know, so I had a paper route. I mowed lawns in the wintertime. So I had a paper route, and in the summer I mowed lawns in addition to the paper route. In the wintertime, I shoveled snow, literally went door to door with a snow shovel, you know, snowing driveways, shoveling by hand, shoveling driveways and shoveling sidewalks to save up money. So I could buy my own bike. Nobody bought me a bike, John. Right. And that's a work ethic, and I don't think these people have ever had that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, so I mean, is this a, you know, and I don't know. I'm just asking the question, Joe, because I don't know these people on an individual basis. I mean, is this a cyclical thing where somebody, you know, a family member gets on... you know, SNAP and welfare, and so then the kids end up on it, and then their kids end up on it, or is it something that just sort of happens and they realize the benefits of, and since I don't really have to work and I can get all of this stuff free, I can get my Section 8 housing, I can get my card, I can still go to the grocery store and buy the same thing everybody else buys because there's a limit on what I actually can buy, maybe a few limitations, but not very many when it's all said and done. I mean, is that the cycle that happens?
SPEAKER 08 :
Not for everybody, but John, yes, there are numerous documented stories of three generations of a family all never having a job, living off public assistance. The grandmother, the mother, and the grandkids who are now 17, 18, 19 years old, all living in public housing for three generations. Now, that's not 100% of them, and there are people that fall into it. They get a drug addiction. They become alcoholics. But, yeah, but, John, it is not uncommon – For living off the state to become a generational thing, just a generational model, well, that's how Grandma got through life, and that's how Mom is getting through life, and that's how I'm going to get through life. And it just becomes a normal, natural thing to let the government support you. And by the way, this thing about, well, health care is a human right or food is a human right, there is no other human or constitutional right that requires somebody else to pay for it. You don't need to – You don't need to contribute any money for me to practice my freedom of religion, my freedom of speech, or my freedom to own a gun. It doesn't require any contribution from you or anybody else for me to exercise those basic human rights. So when you say, well, health care is a human right, the ability to seek health care is a human right.
SPEAKER 16 :
To have it given to you is not. No.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, to ask somebody else needs to pay for my health care, that is not a human right.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it is not. It's never a human right to have somebody else have to do something for you.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. That's a good definition of it right there.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's never a human right where somebody else has to be involved in what you're doing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. So that's my when people start telling me, well, you know, health care is a human right now, not if I have to pay for it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's not. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
So anyway, I think just a side note, and I was going to read an article here, but I can maybe do this tomorrow or at another time. But the amount of people I think now in the backlash, you know, figure people figuring out there's 40 million plus people on welfare. Joe, I think it's a wake up call. This is one thing that's backfiring on the Democrats. I think it's a wake up call for people to realize, well, wait a minute. I'm working. I'm paying my taxes. Why aren't they?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's earth-shaking. And by the way, John, I want to just back up. AI, you know, all these layouts, Amazon's going to lay off 14,000. UPS is going to lay off 44,000 people, half of which are going to be white-collar. If you have a job where you are an electrician, an automotive technician, HVAC guy, plumber, millwright, pipe fitter, you don't have to worry about AI taking your job.
SPEAKER 16 :
And really quick, I read some things last night and watched some videos on the whole Amazon UPS. It's not all just AI. They're realizing, wait a minute, we've got some fat. Yes, AI may be a component of that, but I think they're realizing that, wait a minute, we can get as much production out of one as we are two. Why do we need two? We're just adding costs we don't need.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, actually, John, in terms of the automotive, the automotive industry has put in several million robots One robot does the work of seven people. Yep. Now, if you want to be the guy who fixes robots... That's different. That's a great job.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. Fixes and programs.
SPEAKER 08 :
Fixes and programs robots, that's a great job to have. That's right. But if you're doing a job that can be done by a robot, you need to probably start thinking.
SPEAKER 16 :
You probably should rethink your career.
SPEAKER 08 :
Rethink your career.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. Same thing with AI. If you've got a job whereby, and I'm sorry to say this, but if you're paralegal, for example, or you're in a medical office and you're doing a bunch of filing and things along those lines, or even writing reports and doing things like that, you probably ought to think about a different career because those are going to get replaced, Joe.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right now, a quick story, John. You know, every year I get my renewal from SiriusXM, and every year I call up and I tell them I want to cancel because, you know, the price is too high. And every year for the past five years, I've talked to a human being, and then they refer me over to a customer retention specialist, and they knock it down from $250 a year to $750 a month, you know, which is literally a two-third reduction. This year I called up and I get a voice assistant. what can we help you? And I say, cancellation. And it was all, and John, I went through the whole process, same result, never spoke to a human being. And I wound up with the same result. I went from a $250 annual renewal on the Sirius XM radio to, I think it was $799 a month. And there was no human being involved. But every year for the past five years, I've had to interact with not one, but actually two people, the first call taker, and then the quote, customer retention specialist. And by the way, anybody out there with Sirius XM Radio, if you haven't been calling up to say you want to cancel, you need to do that. You'll save yourself a lot of money.
SPEAKER 16 :
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All right, we are back, closing out hour number two. I got a text message that came in, and I think this is a legitimate question. I've had this question a couple of times. So the question was, so I didn't grow up, me, John Rush, didn't grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth. No. What Joe just explained, I mean, did we lack for anything as a family? We didn't know that we did if we did, but we went without... a lot of things. And my folks, to their credit, my mom and dad both are gone now, but they made a lot of sacrifices to make our lives seem very normal. And now looking back on it, I know what some of those sacrifices are, and I can look back and remember some of the things that I could even hear them know overhear them as a child talking about and how are they going to do this and how are they going to do that and how are they going to pay this bill and how are they going to pay that bill and so on and and all that to be said that yeah no i didn't grow up with a silver spoon in fact as i became a little older like joe i started working at a very young age had a paper out by the time i was nine ten years of age did that for about three years and i started working in the family business after that because of the family business yeah times could be really really Those of you that have had family businesses or your own businesses know exactly what I'm talking about. And I can remember a time when I was all but probably, I don't know, 15 or 16. And, yes, I made money during the summer and I worked and I worked any time I could after school, you know, spring break, Christmas break, all those sorts of things. But I remember there was a couple of times where my folks were struggling, you know, to make the house payment. They didn't have enough money. It wasn't there. I could overhear the conversations. And I was old enough at that time where I said, listen, I'll pitch in. I'll help. And I did. And I did that on more than one occasion. And I had the ability, and I'd made my own money, but I had the ability to be able to chip in and help my folks along those lines, and I did. And I don't regret doing that, and I would do it all over again exactly the same way. In fact, looking back on it, probably should have helped more. My folks did a lot for us. I should have done more for them as far as that's concerned. So, no, I did not grow up with a silver spoon or a gold spoon or anything along those lines. What I would call, I hate the class system and what we describe that way, but we were very middle-low income. I don't want to say we were poor, but we were not upper middle income. And there were probably years where we might have even been in that lower income end of things. But my folks did a very good job of masking all of that. And we as kids didn't know at times probably how poor we actually were because my folks did a really good job of masking that. Now, did we ever go without? No, but my dad was a big one on making something work properly. that, you know, wouldn't have otherwise in a lot of families, and we never had a lot of new things. My dad was one of those where he would make something used to still work, whether that was bicycles or whatever. That's what my dad did, and he had a way of, you know, wheeling and dealing and making things happen, and that's how it worked in our family, and that's how we grew up. So, no, I did not grow up with a, you know, golden or silver spoon and In fact, Bob Duke and I were talking about this on the roundtable a little bit this morning. I mean, I can tell you as a business owner in my own life, there's been lots of times for me whereby you weren't sure how you were going to make payroll and or feed your family all at the same time. And it was very, very, very difficult. With all that being said, I watch some of these people today that are on, you know, food stamps and on Snap and so on. And I look at them and think, you know what? I could have done that legitimately at one point in time in my life. I refuse to. I am not taking a handout from anybody. Maybe that's my pride talking, but I am not taking a handout from anyone, especially, especially Uncle Sam. That would have been the last place I would have ever gone to have gotten help. So that's me. That's my story. Stick into it, by the way. So that's it for Hour 2. We'll be back with Hour 3. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Thank you. I'm a rich guy.
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And buckle up your seatbelts. We've got a show planned for you today. So check out my website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Make sure that you are signed up for our email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. We normally only send one email a week. We don't want to just jam your inbox up with a whole bunch of stuff. And it will highlight the upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. While you're at the website, be sure and download our voter's guide. I did an analysis on both of the statewide issues as well as the Denver bond packages. I was up in Denver yesterday. And I saw all of these signs on, yes, on 2A through 2E, which are those huge debt packages. And, of course, there's all kinds of money behind that because there's all kinds of PBIs that will benefit from the taxpayers of Denver. The answer should be no on those. I make the case for that. And so be sure and tell your friends and family about that as well. Regarding school board candidates, I would suggest that you check out transformcolorado.org. And you will be able to see the survey questions that they went out and whether or not candidates answered them and how they answered that. So be sure and check that out as well. And that is transformcolorado.org. Then in my voter's guide, I did include the county clerk's phone numbers. And so you can reach out to them for contact information regarding different things that are on your ballot. And also, I put some suggested questions in for you that you might want to ask different candidates for mayor and city council. And contact your city clerks for their contact information regarding for that. I did not put this in the voter's guide. However, I am a hard no on the South Metro fire protection tax increase question. I know that Ginny has let us know that there is a tax increase for Wellington for their fire department and she is a hard no on that as well. But I'll tell you my reasoning on this South Metro fire protection is, first of all, they are asking for a $50 million tax increase, and one can debate the merits on that. But what they did do then is they have the clause at the very end of the question on the ballot, which is de-taboring or de-bruising, excuse me, I'm debriefing all of the excess revenue. Well, let me change that. All of the excess taxes that they have taken from us, the taxpayers, that are to be returned to the taxpayers. And this has been something very sneaky that's been going on for quite some time with a bunch of different ballot questions because Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, and just so you know democrat representative lorena garcia i found a headline the other day as i was searching for things is on the warpath to get rid of tabor colorado's taxpayers bill of rights and tabor is really about three things and douglas bruce uh was the architect behind that with with a lot of other people that helped him but he really was the the forefront on that and so When people are trying to debunk or get rid of TABOR, it could be called de-brucing as well. And TABOR is about three things. It's about good manners. It says, hey, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, if you want to raise our taxes, you have to ask us. So that's what's happening with the South Metro Fire Department. And again, you can debate the merits of that or not. Number two, if PBIs want to incur debt, you just have to ask us. And that's why you have these bond questions on the ballot for Denver and a lot of other ballot questions. But number three, it says, hey, PBIs, if you collect excess revenue... above what you've been asking for. And you want to keep that. I need to change that. If you have collected excess taxes, our tax money, and you want to keep it, you have to ask us. And so what's been sneaky is a lot of these different metro districts, school districts, cities, counties, the state, they are saying, hey, we want to keep all that excess revenue, and they plug that into the language. And that's what's going on with the South Metro Fire Protection Act. And just on that, I would say no. The other thing is, though, is I got a text message, and who's paying for this, from somebody that said that they are with the South Metro Fire Protection District and said, hey, we haven't had a tax increase since a long time ago. So please, it's time for us to have a tax increase. It's like, really? And quite frankly, I think most all of these entities got a real bump where we pay our property taxes to those entities, and we had this huge property tax increase because of the higher assessed valuations. So I felt that that was disingenuous. And I want to get to a point where... Those that are representing us in government and the bureaucrats that are hired by them, that they are transparent and that they are honest. They're not doing this funny stuff on language. And we talk about how concerned we are regarding the debt. at the national level that we have got to say no to debt on the local, the county, and the state level as well. So with that, without trepidation obviously today, I'm addressing these important issues. And trepidation is our word of the day. And boy, I've got so many headlines here, and I now have so many pieces of paper. Hold on here. Trepidation is T-R-E-P-I-D-A-T-I-O-N, and it is a noun, and it says a state of alarm or dread, apprehension, or fear, or it could be an involuntary trembling or quivering, and sometimes an effect of paralysis, but usually caused by terror or fear, quaking and quivering. And in some of the conversations that we had yesterday, I was really having trepidation as we are moving into a very concerning time. I'm going to use the word concerning. In some ways, it could be a dangerous time in our country right now with all the headlines that are out there. And so I was yesterday I was kind of. living initially doing the show with some trepidation. I was trying to understand what's going on. But today, back into hope that we continue to step forward. So many people are stepping forward. And I'm so excited about that. And I'm not going to go through the right now because we are so jammed up on time. But he was born in 1949, died in 1832. He was a German polymath. He's widely regarded as the most influential writer in the German language. And he said this, you can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. And again, that's Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. And on the line with us is a great sponsor of the show. And that is Karen Gorday. She is an entrepreneur and owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting. And she's also a candidate for Lakewood City Council. Karen, welcome to the show. Hi, we are right around. I know you are so busy, both with the business and with your campaign. But let's talk about Radiant first and foremost and what sets you apart from your competitors, because I think it's important that people understand that.
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Absolutely. So one thing right off the bat, you know, at the initial estimate appointment, thoroughly understand what it is the customers need and then not try to be a hard salesman and say, upsell you know if let's say they're going to sell the house and the ceilings look fine and they just want the walls done then understand that we're going to sell to their needs not what we want um and that's you know and we're not pushy um it's a lot of people appreciate that but then even with the estimate um it's it's thorough and transparent um you'll know up front what you're going to have to pay um i know personally i don't like change orders um And I know customers don't like change orders, and so we like to be thorough and transparent. And I even have my painters trained that, you know, we stick to the scope of work. And you're not looking around their house to upsell because there's a lot of painting companies that train their painters to upsell when they're out there. But I don't like people to have unexpected surprises, and so we like to be thorough. And then we use the products that we say we're going to use, so it's not a bait-and-switch when we get out there to actually paint. So it's full transparency, you know up front what you're going to pay at the end of the job, and that is with the products. And so it's super important, and it's rare that that happens. Okay.
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Well, Karen, you and I have talked, you've been out to my house, and it was really time for me to paint outside, and I'm going to have to have, I think, maybe some boards re-painted. replaced and different things like that what does that look like Karen Gorday and I know that we're going to need to wait until spring and I need to get windows first so it's windows and then you so what about these boards that I'm going to have to get replaced
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Right. So I do put a caveat on the board. Usually when I'm walking around and typically I walk it with the customers and then on my own, because I found that if I'm actually talking with someone that I miss, you know, details. But yeah. you know, looking at the board, see if they're rotten, but then I put the caveat on, cause I do not climb up on the second or third level during the estimate. Um, so I, I, I can zoom in and I can kind of see, okay, we have got a, you know, board up there that that's warped and it, you know, it's obvious that's rotten, but, um, put a caveat on there. Um, If we come across additional boards, it's going to cost X amount per board, and we will talk with you before we replace it. Because sometimes maybe, and every customer is different, right? But let's say they're selling the house, and there's one trim board, and there's one little spot of the board that's rotten. I've had customers say, well, can you put some wood bondo in there instead of replacing the actual board? because we're selling it and we just don't want to replace things. So we have those conversations before we would have to replace additional boards.
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Okay. Well, we're going to have to have a conversation, so we'll do that soon. So next thing, Karen, let's move over here to your campaign. Election Day is Tuesday the 4th. It's right around the corner. People need to have their ballots in by 7 p.m. to their county clerks. How is the campaign going?
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I feel like it's going well. I feel like the momentum is there. However, there are a lot of ballots still out there. As of yesterday afternoon, in Jefferson County as a whole, only 17% have voted. And in Lakewood, it's a much lower number. And so it's time for get out the vote phone calls. You know, see if people need rides to the polls, get those ballots in. And so that effort is going on now till Tuesday to get folks out and get their ballots in.
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Okay, Lakewood is really, I say Colorado's at the tip of the spear on so many things. Lakewood really is at the tip of the spear. Denver's dirty, dysfunctional, dangerous. Lakewood is like a Denver wannabe right now with this city council and this mayor, and they need to make a change. So people don't have to live in Lakewood to help you on this get out the vote, do they?
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No, absolutely not. I get a daily spreadsheet from Jeffco, and then I can sort it by precinct, and I can give someone one precinct to start calling. They can be anywhere in the state, and I will take all the help I can get from anywhere, or even out of state for that matter, just to make those phone calls because There's probably, you know, if you look at one side versus the other, there's probably right around 5000 conservative votes out there that are ballots that have not been turned in. And that's where the focus is going to be is on those conservative ballots versus the unaffiliated.
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Okay, Karen, how can people reach you? And so my friends, I know that we all many times are keyboard cowboys here and putting our opinions out on things. This is a time for action. And so take some time and reach out and help Karen. So how can people reach you?
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For painting, they can reach me at www.paintwithradiant.com. And for the campaign, it's just karenforlakewood.com. And if you want to reach out and help on the campaign, there is a web form. You can fill that out, and I'll get back to you.
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Okay. Karen Gorday, thanks so much. We'll talk next week.
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All right. Sounds good. Thank you, Kim.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And the show comes to you because of our sponsors and all of your support. We're an independent voice on an independent station. What that means is I buy my airtime. So I have full control over airtime. what you hear. And while I'm doing that, I should give you the caveat that I'm searching for truth and clarity and looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And I think all of you know that I've got this volunteer gig as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. It's an amazing group of people. It's all volunteers in the spirit of the founders, I would say, who volunteered for liberty. This group is really volunteering as well. And I'm so pleased to have on the line with me our vice president, and that is Rob Knuth. Rob, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim. Thank you for having me.
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Well, it is good to have you, and we need to give a shout out to our fellow board members of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. That is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, you, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. It is an amazing group of people that we work with, and our group took positions on 273 pieces of legislation that was proposed this last legislative session. It is a monumental amount of work that this group puts in, Rob.
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Yeah, pardon me. We do spend a few hours over the course of a legislative session going through these bills and writing up the reviews on them. I just wanted to give kudos to you on air, Kim, for the latest cut ratings report that we did and your commentary that you had both on the front cover and then your review on the back cover. You really do an incredible amount of work in helping us in the organization. Pardon me. And we certainly appreciate it. And reading through the different things that you had covered in your commentary, your review, it kind of brought back to mind just how dire we are as far as our lack of good representation in the state and the fact that we have basically a one-party rule and what is going on down there, the irresponsible – actions and things that have been done. You covered on the back of our review the fact that the legislature gave Governor Polis the power to cut spending, but of a $1 billion deficit, he only cut $252 million in spending, and then they're going after the taxpayers to pick their pockets to try to make up the shortfall. It's a rather dire situation we find ourselves in.
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Well, and Rob, we are nonpartisan. We really look at these issues from a principal standpoint. And the four things that we really focus on is, first of all, how does this affect the taxpayer? And that means how does it affect everybody, everyday hardworking Coloradans? And then the next thing is, is to protect Tabor, Colorado's taxpayers bill of rights. And I mentioned in the first segment, I saw a headline that representative Democrat Lorena Garcia is she's got Tabor in the crosshairs. So we need to get girded up for the fight on that to protect Tabor. And then also property rights and then really parental rights as well, parental choice in education. And those are the four things that we really use as our north star as we are looking at all of this legislation. Now, you mentioned the ratings report, and I know that our board members all have some in their hand, and it is a monumental piece of work. And I worked on it last night, and I'm going to try to get this finished up today. Anyone that is a member will be receiving a hard copy of that. And we would really encourage you to join us, and we will get a hard copy to you as well. We will get this on the website soon, but I did want to preempt getting this out to our listeners. members. And so I would highly recommend that people go to coloradotaxpayer.org and join online. And we will then get a hard copy to people. It's only $25 to be a member. And we really want, instead of a few real wealthy members, what we would like is a wide range of members throughout Colorado. So we'd really recommend that people go to coloradotaxpayer.org .org and join us. $25 a year, $2.08 a month. Rob, I don't normally go to the she-she coffee shops for coffee, but I met someone the other day who, I won't give her name right now, but she's interested possibly in coming on to the board. But So I got, I think, a medium latte. It was $6.25. And I'm thinking, oh my gosh, so for $25 you can be a member of CUT. We highly recommend it.
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Well, Kim, my middle son, who's now a pastor at a large church out in Aurora, he used to work in a Starbucks. And I would go in and visit him, but I did not care for foo-foo coffee, and I would always get the entry level, which is Pike's Place. At least that's what it used to be. And it was just fine, but it was still pricey. And so I prefer brewing my own at home, and if a pot lasts more than a day, then so be it. I just nuke it and take it until it's gone. But I understand what you're saying. I look at those prices, even for a basic cup of coffee, and I'm going, I know that they're in it for profit, and that's good. I encourage that. But it's just not something that I'm drawn to, and I could not quite figure out some of my friends and their addiction to these standalone coffee shops. But anyway, it is what it is.
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Well, coffee is personal, but the point is, for $2.08 a month, you can be a member of CUT, and you will get this hard copy of our ratings report. And then also, as we are taking positions each week during the legislative session, on these um different bills we send an email to all of our representatives and the governor and also our membership list so you will also get that as well and the value on this to become informed is is so important and so um we'd really recommend that what what's your final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners today rob and i thank you for you are out there and you're You're questioning. You're very thoughtful. You really want to unify the people here in Colorado. And when you mentioned one party rule, this isn't really a Democrat Republican thing anymore. The Democrat Party is really being controlled in Colorado by radical activists who are have agendas, radical agendas that they're pushing. And so this is not a Democrat or Republican thing. And we are nonpartisan. We stay on principle. And you're out there really trying to unite people. And I love that, Rob Knuth.
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Well, thank you, Kim. I do, and I'll visit with anybody. The reality is that we do have a one-party rule system here, and we don't have enough people within that one party to stand up and align themselves with the values that we stand for at CUT. And adherence to the principles of the people's will in that they passed Tabor and that it's kept our state in reasonably good shape up until the last few years where they've tried to undermine and go around and figure out ways to, to dilute the effects of Tabor. And so I would encourage people that find themselves on, you know, the side of the aisle of the people that are in majority of power, that they would reevaluate their responsibilities to good, to the citizens of colorado and to good governance and and try to you know work with people and organizations like cut to protect all taxpayers regardless of political affiliation and to help us make a better state because you know you mentioned the the basics in your commentary of the rule the condition of the highways and how bad they are that's something people deal with every day and that's not something that happens just By happenstance, it happens with bad policies that emanate from the legislature, and then it goes downhill from there. And then they keep coming back to the taxpayer to try to backfill the problems of budget deficit. So anyway, we would encourage people to join us and march with us to try to make our state a better place to live.
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Absolutely. Rob Knuth, I so appreciate you and all your work, and I appreciate our other board members, and we will talk with you again very soon.
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Thank you, Kim. Have a great day now.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. And be sure and check out our website. That's kimmonson.com. And also download our voter's guide regarding the two statewide issues and this big debt package that's being asked for in Denver. And there's a red ribbon at the top of the website. And you click on that, put your name in and your email address, and we will... I email you a copy of that. As you know, I work with amazing people as our sponsors and Jody Hensie with Mint Financial Strategies and her team are doing something really fun. It's a fabulous evening of networking and fun at Women's Wealth. It will be on Friday, November 7th in the Lone Tree area at 5 p.m. And they have just a few seats left. So if you would like to join them, RSVP to Jody at Jody, J-O-D-Y at MintFS.com. So that's like Mint, M-I-N-T, FinancialStrategies.com. So Jody at MintFS.com. And it sounds like it's going to be just a really great evening. I'm so excited to have on the line with me John Zoller. We had talked with him when he was bringing his Titanic immersive exhibition to Denver, and he's back with Dinos Alive. And it says, Dinos Alive, Stomp Into Denver. It's a new prehistoric immersive experience, and it's coming next month, November, which is right around the corner. And it's bringing visitors face-to-face with dozens of life-size dinosaurs. John Zoller, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks, Kim. Great to be back here with you talking about Dinos Alive.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, dinosaurs have been a family favorite ever since the kids were little. In fact, my youngest, when he was in first grade and they were studying dinosaurs, his teacher would ask him how to pronounce the names of all of the dinosaurs. So it is a family favorite, and we're going to be going to the exhibit. I'm really excited about it. So it's going to open next week, isn't it?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. It opens next Thursday at 3900 Elati Street, same place where we had Titanic and we had Bubbles, Bubble Planet before that.
SPEAKER 20 :
And so tell us about this, because as I've looked at the promotional material on it, it looks exciting. And you've had this. It's been in some of the other cities as well, yes?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. Dinos Alive has been touring since about 2021, and it's been all over the world from L.A. to Chicago to Seoul to Paris. And we're really excited to make our stop here in Denver where we've got so much rich dinosaur history to draw upon. But here you can see dinosaurs as close as you could ever get to a dinosaur is how we like to describe it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. And so what does getting tickets look like and, you know, what's the time? And if people get tickets, how long will they be in the exhibit? Explain that to us.
SPEAKER 08 :
So the best place to go to get tickets is the website dinosaliveexhibit.com. And you can select Denver and then you'll see the ticket availabilities. We are planning on presenting this for about six months. So we'll definitely be in town through the holidays, through the fall, the holidays and into the winter. It's a great way to just get out of the chilly outdoors into the prehistoric jungle and And we're open every day except for Tuesdays. And the hours are typically opening at 10 during the week, opening at 9.30 on the weekends. And then we've got sort of typical museum hours running until 6 or 7 during the week and then a little bit later on the weekends. It's really a family-friendly environment. It bridges the generational gaps. I mean, it's great for grandparents to go with their grandkids. And as you mentioned, Kim... Kids love dinosaurs. And what we've done is we've created this environment that is very engaging for children using both full-size animatronic dinosaurs, but also engaging for adults by including this overlay of digital technology that we've become quite experienced at doing with all the digital technology exhibitions that we've done in the past.
SPEAKER 20 :
So for little, little ones like toddlers, is it scary at all?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, I wouldn't say it's scary. I think when you get right up in the teeth of a full-size, 45-foot-long Spinosaurus, you might get some tears. But for the most part, it's just a very engaging environment. The scenery is such that you feel like you're going back in the prehistoric jungle. We actually have introduced as well a character, Dr. Epoch, who introduces you to the exhibit and takes you out of the exhibit. You're going through a time portal, so there's this fun time travel feel to it. So overall, it's definitely designed to be engaging for children. We've also added in a small playground area where you can slide down a sauropod's tail and out of a T-Rex's mouth. So all of those things that do make dinosaurs scary for kids, we've also emphasized to make them playful as well.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I love that. And one of the things that Olivia sent over regarding the press packet, you said Jurassic stress relief. You said from these animatronic dinosaurs to these adventures in dino rides, Dinos Alive offers a prehistoric escape from political tensions, holiday chaos, and everyday stress, bringing the whole family an awe-inspiring journey back in time. I love that, John Zoller, because there is so much going on out there. This looks to me like a great event that a family can do together and just chill out for a little bit with everything that's going on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I did hear the last part of your last segment, just the very end of it. And every place you look, there's definitely a lot of concern about what's going on with my life, what's going on with the world. Dinos Alive is an opportunity to just get away from it all for the hour or the 90 minutes that you're in there. go back to being a kid again, go back to being an explorer again, go back to the prehistoric era with folks from all walks of life who can come together and meet around this subject and really just enjoy and rediscover what it's like to just enjoy a space together again, which I think is really important in this time. And I think it's over the years, I've always wanted to create experiences that have a very high educational value. And we certainly deliver that with Dinos Alive with all the science and learning in there. But what I've come to accept about part of what I do is creating these spaces for escape, for entertainment as well. There's a great value to just breathing and opening your eyes to a new subject in an environment that's very immersive and very sense stimulates all the senses. And that allows all that learning and education to flow in. But part of it is just getting away from your everyday. It's going to be there when you get back. But for that brief period of time, especially in geological time, you can you can just explore a new space and learn something new away from away from a lot of your concerns of the everyday.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I find this really exciting. And speaking of that, I kind of forgotten that I'd done this. When my kids were little, the Museum of Science and History here in Denver, I don't think they do it anymore. But you could sign up and you could spend the night at the museum. and you take your sleeping bag and there's all these kids and we would dissect whatever it is from owls and it was really interesting. I was exhausted after I did it because it was very uncomfortable. People were snoring and all that. But it was a really memorable experience. And I don't think they do that anymore. So as I'm seeing this, I'm thinking about families doing this together. I think this is the next best thing. And you don't end up being exhausted because you didn't get any sleep because you were sleeping on the floor at the Museum of Science and History.
SPEAKER 08 :
That that it's such a great museum and they do bring so much incredible knowledge to the region. They've got such a great understanding of the of all the paleontology and region right along that dinosaur highway. What we do have some great packages for families. We've got great packages for educators. And we also have wonderful packages for birthday parties and group gatherings as well. So you can do those group gatherings, but we won't make you sleep with the dinosaurs.
SPEAKER 20 :
So, okay, so that brings up something. So this is something that a teacher could possibly do a field trip for.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, absolutely. Yes. I mean, we, as I said, I mean, We want to balance that education and entertainment factor. And we do that by creating these incredible environments with virtual reality, with a dive into the Jurassic deep ocean through digital projection mapping. But we also allow that education to flow through that in that immersive way. And we've created this great educational guide that creates pre-experience learning opportunities opportunity learning learning opportunities while you're in the experience and post opportunity learning so a educator could really plan a week's curriculum around coming to this experience and if we do really cover the entire stem curriculum as well so everything from the science the technology the engineering and the mathematics can all be taught through coming to dinos alive as a week-long package
SPEAKER 20 :
That is so cool. So how could a teacher get information? And I noticed that's what you said, that you have science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and hands-on learning. What a great opportunity. So how could a teacher interface with Dinos Alive to make all this happen?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you can go to the website, dinosaurliveexhibit.com, or you can write info at exhibitionhub.com, and we can get you that information, and you can start to plan your trip.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, I love that, John Zoller. And we're going to go to break. But before we do that, I wanted to acknowledge a couple of our great sponsors. And one of those is Little Richie's, which is located in Parker and one in Golden. And they're your go-to for real New York-style pizza, hearty pastas, and that unbeatable local vibe. Little Richie's is serving up daily specials, quick and tasty weekday lunch deals, and And a happy hour, the locals actually build their plans around. So whether you're bringing the crew, catching up with friends, or flying solo for a hot slice, Little Richie's is your neighborhood hangout. And then we will be talking with Lorne Levy, our mortgage specialist, in the next hour. The Federal Reserve met yesterday. I saw a headline. It looks like that they are reducing interest rates. I wonder what that means exactly. Lorne Levy will let us know. So for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our Web site. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And sign up for our weekly email newsletter that highlights our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And then download my voters guide. Your ballots are due back by seven o'clock this Sunday. Tuesday. And it's important to be an informed voter, not an influenced voter. And so I did an analysis on these ballot questions, gave you my reasoning, my recommendation, and then you take it from there and make your own decision on that. A couple of things I wanted to mention is the USMC Memorial Foundation is hosting an event in honor of Veterans Day. It will be next Saturday, the 8th at 2 o'clock out at the Marine Memorial, which is out in Golden. And it is important to stop and reflect and remember those that are wearing the uniform or have worn the uniform. And so you can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then the other nonprofit that I feature on a regular basis on the show is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because they had four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. And co-founder of the center is Drew Dix, who is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. And the center is non-political, non-partisan, but just focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And so support them. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. We are talking with John Zoller. He is the executive producer at Exhibition Hub. And he is the creator of Dinos Alive, which is an immersive exhibit that is coming to Colorado next month, right around the corner, actually next week. And we'll be here for probably about six months. And John Zoller, being creative and an entrepreneur, I think that you're probably the definition of that. So tell us a little bit about your story.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, well, I've always enjoyed telling stories. And about a quarter century ago, it seems like yesterday, I had the opportunity to work on an experience based around the Titanic. And it was a walkthrough museum exhibit. And from that point forward, I was really hooked on this way of creating environments for the public. I've always thought about them as immersive experiences because I want to take you out of your everyday and put you into a new environment. And over the years, I've just been fortunate enough to work with some great people, work on some great projects that have created a lot of traction. One of the things that I've worked on quite a bit, you know, we're talking about today is various dinosaur exhibits. And I do find that just like these other experiences like Titanic, like Bubble Planet, like Van Gogh, when we can take you out of your everyday and put you into a new environment, different perspective and gives you a little break from the world that you're in, but also an opportunity to learn something new.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and John Zoller, the immersive experience, I think people, to just sit back and not partake in entertainment or to not partake in a conversation, to just be more of an observer in life, I think we're supposed to be engaged in life and we've, in many ways, we become maybe more observers of life. So this is different. An immersive experience is different than just going to a movie or a concert, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's true. I mean, just by the fact that it's partly a walkthrough experience, you can experience to a certain degree, choose your own path as you go along. There's Easter eggs throughout the experience where you're discovering your own information in your own way. There's multiple ways to learn and engage with content from written text to an app that we have to Video screens to play opportunities. We also have a walking virtual reality experience in here. So it creates this incredible variety over the 20,000 plus square feet that we've got And it, it does really engage with you really engage with it because you're moving through the space. And that is different than being seated and sort of being just fed information from one screen. It's all around you and you can pick where you want to go and go after those things that are most interesting to you.
SPEAKER 20 :
So how much time should someone allow for to go to the exhibit? It's probably 75 to 90 minutes is a good estimate.
SPEAKER 08 :
good amount of time to plan. There's, there's a lot of dinosaurs. I mean, I do know that, um, we have created this experience so that it does meander. There's a, there's a surprise around every corner, but when you've got the little ones who want to go from one dinosaur to the next, to the next, they might get, they might get through pretty fast. And we also will also allow families to go back again through it. If, if they, if the kids just blew through it, run through it one time, then come back around. And you can go through it again and take your time. The elements that we've added, for example, like a dino race. You get to race against a velociraptor and see if you can beat a velociraptor. That's a lot of fun. The walking virtual reality is a new addition to the show. And it's magical. You go through a time portal and you're back among the dinosaurs. You're actually... For part of the time you're in Colorado walking with the Stegosaurus and you've got about a 10 minute walking virtual reality where you can see you see our dinosaurs at full size. We they do move. They have all kinds of animatronic movements, too, but they they're not they can't they don't walk through the space because that would be a little too difficult with all the safety concerns. But in the virtual reality, you're actually walking with these dinosaurs. You're seeing them run and play and move. And that makes it really special. Plus, you're fully engrossed in that prehistoric environment in the virtual reality.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think this is so creative. I'm just enamored with this. Colorado, dinosaurs are really a part of Colorado. So talk to me a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I mean, Colorado is really ground zero for dino discovery in a lot of ways. It's right in the heart of the Morrison Formation, which is one of the most fossil-rich formations in the world. We've got all types of dinosaurs, especially the Stegosaurus, which is the state fossil that had been discovered in Colorado, as well as the Allosaurus and the Ploticus, one of the big sauropods of the day. Which, by the way, you mentioned Pueblo in the lead-in here, and the Stegosaurus, Diplodocus, and Allosaurus were all discovered in Pueblo. So there's just great connections throughout Colorado to these dinosaurs. The Dinosaur Highway runs right through Denver. It is the edge of the Morrison Formation. That uplift of the mountains really brought all these fossils up from the depths, and we get to... we get to see these dinosaurs that are, have been in the ground for millions of years. The history of the earth, written in stone brought to life and dinos alive.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and what happened to the dinosaurs? You don't know what happened. What do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
So, I mean, I go with the, the standard theory, partly because it's so dramatic and it's, Just real quick, when we come into the experience, we meet our character, Dr. Epoch, he takes us through a time portal back to the time period of the dinosaurs. At the end of the experience, we meet Dr. Epoch again, and he's taking us out of the time period of the dinosaurs just as the asteroid is approaching the Earth. So 65 million years ago, a six-mile-wide asteroid impacted Earth right around the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico. It came out of nowhere. It had the power of hundreds of atomic bombs. It raised debris into the atmosphere that then came back down onto the earth in a rain of fire, killing most dinosaurs instantly. And there is some debate here if it was a few weeks or a few thousand years, but essentially a huge cloud covered the earth. No sunlight got in. Vegetation died off. The dinosaurs that fed on that vegetation died off. The dinosaurs that fed on those dinosaurs died off. And within between a few weeks and a few thousand years, all the dinosaurs were gone. And it's so dramatic and so tragic when you think about these species that ruled the earth for 150 million years or more, but it did pave the way for modern humans because one of dinosaurs favorite foods was small mammals. So we would have never made, we would have never evolved to get to the point of being on the earth as humans had those dinosaurs not been wiped from the earth, as tragic as that story is for the dinosaurs.
SPEAKER 20 :
Wow, fascinating. Just fascinating. Okay, so John Zoller, how can people get tickets? What's the best way to get all the information about Dinos Alive? And again, it opens next week here in Denver, correct? Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. So we're at 3900 Elati Street. We're really close to downtown, right where Titanic and Bubble Planet were. You can go to dinosaliveexhibit.com and pick Denver as your city. Pick your time and day. We're open every day except for Tuesdays, opening at 10 a.m. during the week and at 9.30 a.m. on the weekends.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. And again, that is dinosaliveexhibit.com. What about parking? That seems to always be a challenge these days in Denver.
SPEAKER 08 :
Free parking. We're part of a complex that is called the Assembly Student Housing. So right behind the building, there's about 150 free spaces there. And we never seem to run out. So there's definitely free parking there. So one more thing you don't have to worry about that we provide for you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, my gosh. I think the stress of holidays and having everybody in can be so interesting. This just sounds like a wonderful thing for people to do. John Zoller, I so appreciate you sharing your creativity with all the rest of us. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thanks, Kim. And I really appreciate everything you do every day on the air for all of us. And it's always a pleasure to talk to you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, we will talk again soon. And again, that is John Zoller. He's the executive producer of Dinos Alive. And our quote for the end of the show is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. He said this, every day we should hear at least one little song, read one good poem, see one exquisite picture, and if possible, speak a few sensible words. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music. communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like superman stand for truth justice and the american way my friends you are not alone god bless you god bless america stay tuned for hour number two
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And this really is a fasten your seatbelt kind of a day. As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff. whether or not it's their rights or their freedom, their livelihood, opportunity, childhoods or lives. 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So be sure and check that out. And I really do appreciate their sponsorship of the show as well. Our quote of the day is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. And he was a German polymath who is widely regarded as the most influential writer in the German language. His work has a wide-ranging influence on literary, political, and philosophical thought in the Western world from the late 18th century to the present. He was a poet, a playwright, novelist, scientist, statesman, theater director, and critic. And Goethe wrote on a... a wide range of works, including plays, poetry, and aesthetic criticism, as well as on botany and anatomy. And, uh, so anyway, this is what he said. He said, you can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. And, uh, I just find that interesting, so interesting. On the line with me is my good friend. She is a RE-MAX Alliance Realtor, and that is Karen Levine. Karen, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 21 :
Good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 20 :
And we have been in the fall selling season. Are we still in the fall selling season in real estate?
SPEAKER 21 :
We are still in the fall selling season. Things seem to be quite busy out there.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, that is good. And so what's the possibility of people being in a new house by Christmas?
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, that possibility is... Definitely. It's a definite, a definite possibility. I was just thinking about a young first time homebuyer client who is looking to do that. And we found a great home for him. So we're hoping we'll be successful in getting him into that home by Christmas.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, let's talk a little bit about first-time homebuyers. If people want to rent, I want them to have the freedom to do so. I don't want all these subsidies that's going into these apartment buildings. But if people want to rent in a free market, yes, please. But a lot of people that are in apartments would really like to get into their own home. What's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes, and this is... The first time in over a decade, Kim, that first-time homebuyers have had choice. They have options out there. And, yes, our prices have appreciated, and many have said, you know, out of their price range. And yet there are ways to get there. you into a new home through a seller concession, which allows us to buy down the interest rate to make it a little more palatable for the first and second year. And I know Lauren has talked about that over time. There's so much choice out there. This young person that I'm working with right now, we've looked at oh probably 20 homes and um he has had the opportunity to um like two or three of them of course what we find in this market is the minute that you like it so does somebody else so so then that puts you in a competitive position but yet you still have so much room to negotiate um the motivated seller would like their home sold by the, by Christmas, by the end of the year. And so there's just really good opportunity out there with, uh, prices continuing to come down, which makes that more affordable. Um, I just put a three bedroom, two and a half bath, two car garage townhome on the market, which is ideal for a first time home buyer, um, or a couple starting, uh, their, you know, a family or just getting together. Um, priced at $465. So it's a really good buy, and it's in Arvada. And those type of opportunities are more abundant than we've seen, like I said, in a decade.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. So next question for somebody selling their home. Those days of selling above, just talk to me about somebody that's selling a home. You mentioned that prices have come down on the selling side. Is that something to be real concerned about? Address that.
SPEAKER 21 :
well i think what we need to remind ourselves as sellers that um yes our homes um they appreciated to quite high values and we were quite angry when our tax assessments came out because our values were at the top of the market and now our values are seeing some depreciation it is very local there are some communities that don't get homes on the market very often, and people have their eyes on those communities. And so there's maybe a little bit less room as far as prices coming down or seeing depreciation. But many, many sellers have a lot of equity in their homes, which allows them to have the flexibility to be able to negotiate. And They need to understand that they're not going to get that assessed value in today's market and that they're going to need to price their homes competitively to get eyes on their homes. And then to be willing to negotiate, and that's negotiate with maybe seller concessions or price, and also to be willing to negotiate when it comes to items on the inspection, which is we negotiate the contract up front, and then we get to renegotiate after the inspection because of things that may crop up that were not negotiated. aware of um the seller many times isn't aware of maybe the condition of their roof or that they may have high levels of radon and those type of things need generally need to get addressed with a buyer because the buyer will now go to another home if they can't uh get that negotiated out but We are being successful in getting those things negotiated, and buyers and sellers are happy at the closing table. That's the goal. Yep, the seller gets to walk away with their equity, and the buyer gets a new home, and that's the win-win.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, win-win is always a great goal. How can people reach you, Karen Levine, particularly if they would like to either sell their home or get into a new home by Christmas?
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams. Thank you so much for having me. And to RSVP, go to Jody at MintFS.com. So that's Jody, J-O-D-Y, at MintFS, like FinancialStrategies.com. And again, that looks like that's going to be a really fun event. Another great sponsor, we have them on the line. And that is Teddy Collins with the Second Syndicate. He's also the owner of Spartan Defense, which is located in Colorado Springs. Teddy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, thanks for having me, Kim.
SPEAKER 20 :
I've been thinking a lot about where our world is kind of crazy and firearms are a way for us to protect ourselves about about bad actors. And we talk about making our communities and our schools safer. I just want to make them safe. And you at Spartan Defense obviously help people with firearms and training and Alicia Garcia as well. But you're also doing something right now, partnering with the FASTER program to arm individuals, so teachers, administrators, staff in schools with firearms to keep our kids and our teachers safe. And this is so important, Teddy. Absolutely. So tell us about what you're doing to support the FASTER program.
SPEAKER 07 :
So what we're doing is trying to raise money so that we can get teachers and administrators, like you said, certified and trained in order to be able to carry lawfully and safely in a school. What we're trying to do is offset a little bit more than just the general training, though. We're trying to also provide the gear so that there's no upfront costs involved. for those teachers because we do you know these teachers aren't paid anything additional in order or administrators aren't paying anything additional to do to take on this extra responsibility so we want to make sure that there's no upfront cost so we want to provide you know their holster their ammo their their their firearm their medical kits their ifac everything
SPEAKER 20 :
And so you are having a fundraiser for that. I went on and I contributed and our names will be put into a drawing. So tell us about that, Teddy Collins.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so anybody that does contribute gets entered into a drawing to win a custom 1911 that's been laser engraved with some really beautiful artwork. And that's available. You can check it out on our Facebook page for the Second Syndicate or any of our other social medias. We have it posted for you guys to see what that looks like. But anytime you donate, you get entered into that drawing. So we'll be giving that out here shortly. Information and details are online on our social media.
SPEAKER 20 :
And for every $5, you get an entry into the drawing for this, correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct. Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Well, I hope... So my name's in there, Teddy. If you choose my name, that would be great. I would love that. I guess you don't choose. I guess you don't choose. You draw. So there's a difference, right?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Let's talk about... Why the second syndicate? You and your wife, Rosia and Alicia, have come together and created the second syndicate because so many people care about firearms. And boy, the right to bear firearms is under legislative and bureaucratic attack here in Colorado. But what we've seen is organizations that want to protect the Second Amendment, some of them don't get along, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we do see that a lot in the Second Amendment community. Unfortunately, there's a number of 2A organizations. So our goal is to kind of bridge that gap and bring these organizations together. We did this last legislative session. We held some successful rallies where we brought together some groups who generally don't play nice together. We want to create a big tent. We want to bring in people that are generally overlooked in the Second Amendment community. If you want to be a member of the Second Syndicate, we don't care what your background is really or what your other political beliefs are. As long as you're a 2A lover and as long as you believe in freedom and liberty and the Second Amendment, that's all we care about.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and the founders put the Second Amendment into the Bill of Rights and the Constitution for a reason, and that is so that everyday people can protect ourselves and our families against bad actors. And why do you think Bloomberg is putting so much money, particularly in Colorado, to try to take away our rights under the guise of trying to make our communities safer when it's making our communities more dangerous?
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, you know, it's a really good question. It feels like it's about control, in my opinion. It comes down to control. Any time that there's an infringement on the Second Amendment, it always has to do with someone in power having fear of someone not in power maybe toppling that power or not being controlled or being able to think for themselves. Really, the Second Amendment is the ultimate It's the ultimate freedom, in my opinion, the ultimate independence in my freedom. It protects the individual from an overreaching government. And without it, well, there is no ability to really fight back or to even have the ability to be independent.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and that's why the founders put the Second Amendment into the Bill of Rights. I wanted to go back to safe schools and what you're doing with this FASTER program. We've seen stories about where a shooter has gone into a school and a teacher who does not have a firearm. And for this, this is not arming all the teachers. It is those that want to go through the training so that they can have a firearm to protect protect their kids. And it's astonishing to me, Teddy Collins, that I've seen stories of teachers that have really put down their lives or been willing to put their lives down for their students. And I'm thinking, why is it that this legislature, they really want to prevent staff and teachers from having firearms in school. And what, you throw a trash can at the shooter when they come in to try to hurt your kids? It's ludicrous to me that we would not put people in schools that are trained properly that want to protect kids and staff.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. I mean, also be aware of the elections. We have elections on Tuesday. I know, for example, in Douglas County, it's a very close election there. There's one seat that could basically flip the school board in a direction that a lot of people don't want to see it go. A lot of the candidates that are that are running that are on the left side of the aisle have pledged to essentially abolish armed guards and or law enforcement from schools in the Douglas County District. Make sure that you check your school board elections, guys. It's very important that we make the right decisions this election because that is what's on the line. We're talking about some radicals that completely want to. take police away from schools. And we've seen what happens in schools that don't have police. Those are where the mass shootings generally occur or that don't have a faster program.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and so with that, I've got the I'm in Douglas County, so I've got the sign in my yard. But the candidates to vote for are Gamble, Kramer, Smith and Vail. But regarding the school board elections, which are so important, again, I'll say Gamble, Kramer, Smith and Vail, transform Colorado dot org. did a survey with almost all of the different school districts and their candidates. And you can get an idea from those survey questions where these candidates stand. Some of them didn't answer the question. If they didn't answer the question, that's your answer. But that is an excellent tool for school board elections throughout the state. And so I would recommend that people check that out. And then my voters guide, which you can download at Kim Monson dot com, where I've done analysis on the two statewide issues, which are it says healthy school meals for all children. It's really a tax. A tax increase for just some people, which is unfair. And it's on the backs of Proposition FF, which was passed by the people of Colorado in 2022, which put in place five new bureaucracies. So instead of this really being healthy school meals for children, and maybe there will be some, but we already have a national or federal bill. lunch program. I think that's probably it's greasing PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties' pockets. At least they do that first. So anyway, I did that analysis. I did the analysis on the Denver bond questions. You can get all that by going to KimMonson.com. I'm talking with Teddy Collins and He is one of the co-founders of the Second Syndicate. He and his wife also own Spartan Defense, which is a firearm store in Colorado Springs. So we are going to continue the discussion with Teddy when we come back. But we had talked with her in the first hour, and that is Karen Gorday, who is the owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting and also a candidate for Lakewood City Council. And now is the time to help her as well. But Radiant Painting and Lighting, they do a great job.
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SPEAKER 20 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're there. And also you can download our voter's guide, which I hope this is a tool for you to be an informed voter. It sounds like there's a lot of people that need to return their ballots. I think that they may look at their ballots and they think this is daunting. I don't know what this is exactly. That's why the voter's guide, I hope, is a real... help and so you might recommend this to friends and family that have not voted yet and hopefully that'll be a good tool for them to be an informed voter not an influence voter i did the analysis gave my recommendation my reasoning why But then you take it from there as you complete your ballot. And I wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are hosting an event out at the Marine Memorial on Saturday, November 8th at 2 o'clock in the afternoon in honor of Veterans Day. And it is so important to just stop, reflect, appreciate those that have put on the uniform. And you can get more information about that by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. I'm talking with Teddy Collins. He is the co-founder of the Second Syndicate. He is also a co-owner of Spartan Defense, which is a firearm store in Colorado Springs. Teddy Collins, you've been down to the state capitol. And, of course, you're gearing up to be down at the capitol this next legislative session. That's why it's so important for people to support you. And if they do that right now, they can have their name put into a drawing for a really cool firearm. But what I find so interesting when I've gone down to the Capitol is the Capitol is protected by the state's patrol. And I find it so interesting that I have to go through a metal detector and the state patrol has firearms. And you have all these legislators down there. many of the legislators, the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party, that are trying to take away our right to have a firearm to protect ourselves, but yet they have somebody with a firearm protecting them as they're going to work. And as you said, but yet they want to take... I didn't know this, they wanted to get rid of police or resource officers in schools. Well, maybe they should then... Get rid of the State Patrol and everybody that comes into the Capitol. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. We shouldn't have an elite class that has protection that the general citizenry isn't allowed to have themselves. It's protection for me, but not for thee. And that's not the way our government should work. Our government should be a servant of the people. They are elected by us. They are our elected officials. But unfortunately, that's not the way they see it. So, yes, when you go to the Capitol, security is very high. Yeah, I was just there yesterday. In fact, you have to go through security. You cannot carry a firearm, even though in most state capitals across the United States, if you have a concealed handgun license or concealed handgun permit, you are able to do that, just not here in Colorado. So, yeah, they're in their ivory tower with their guards. We don't have that luxury, unfortunately, as the peasant class, so to speak.
SPEAKER 20 :
But then looking at the legislation, which I look at everything that is being put forth for hearings because of CUT, this volunteer gig that all of us are doing to look at legislation, I see all kinds of legislation. To take away our right and it's almost like death by a thousand cuts to take away our right to protect ourselves against bad actors. So they're putting in policies. For example, Denver, I don't like to go into Denver anymore. It's it's dangerous and it's dirty and it's dysfunctional and it's because of policy. And we can turn this around. But one of the key things is, is we have to be able to protect ourselves against bad actors. And they are trying to take away that right little by little, Teddy Collins.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. It's the boiling frog mentality. The pot gets hotter and hotter. The frog doesn't realize until it's too late. That's essentially what's going on here in the state of Colorado. We see it every single legislative session with new restrictions coming into place. And a lot of people just haven't been paying attention. I mean, this has been going on since 2013, since the magazine ban here in Colorado. And every year we get more and more gun control out of the state legislature. yet the state gets more and more unsafe. And when it comes down, they really don't want to hold criminals responsible. They're wanting to hold the law-abiding responsible. They're wanting to take away our rights, but they're not willing to hold criminals responsible because there have been plenty of bills that have come up in which the Democrat Party, the left side of the party, will not vote for that would increase criminal penalties, increase mandatory sentencing, things of that nature. I mean, a lot of people don't even realize, but a lot of the crime in Colorado is committed by juveniles, and they only have 100 and some odd beds. juvenile detention for the entire state. So they have to determine, okay, so do I arrest this person or do I put this person in jail or in prison that has murdered somebody? Or do I have to do the person that did armed robbery and shot somebody? They have to decide between the person who killed and the person who attempted to kill. And that's how bad it's become in our state. The reasoning, the rationale, it's just not there.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, on the website for the secondsyndicate.com, and that's the 2ndsyndicate.com, you talk about gun rights. And you say gun rights are women's rights, human rights, and civil rights. Break that down for me, Teddy Collins.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, to put it simply, the firearm is a great equalizer. It doesn't matter if you're a... 110-pound female or 300-pound male, at the end of the day, what's going to equalize that and make that woman able to defend herself against a much larger physical attacker is going to be the firearm. At that point, it doesn't matter how much the person's been to the gym. It doesn't matter how big the person is or what they know. All that matters is that they have the great equalizer, the firearm, the right to defend themselves.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and you also mentioned human rights and civil rights. My understanding is that those in the black community were some of those that were really were supporters of the Second Amendment because they wanted to be able to carry a firearm as well. I don't really know my history on that. Are you familiar with that at all, Teddy?
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, you have you have some more radical organizations, even, you know, like the Black Panthers that were pro Second Amendment back in the day. It's it's you know, it's interesting how politics have changed in the country and how the narrative has changed. But you would think for civil rights and minority groups that are affected by, you know, racism or things of that nature, those those should be the groups that carry to defend themselves.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and they should have the right to defend themselves. Each of us should have the right to defend ourselves. Absolutely. You mentioned this great equalizer. Okay, so let's give a scenario. I can't remember which bill number it was, but I think there's like a waiting period now if you want to buy a firearm.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, you have a three-day wait.
SPEAKER 20 :
OK, so let's say young college student woman and she's got a stalker and she wants to protect herself against a stalker. She's gone through and done the training so that she can have her concealed carry. But she wants to buy a firearm and this guy is stalking her. She goes in to buy a firearm. She can't take that home with her, can she?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, not even under special circumstances. In fact, this was an amendment Republicans tried to bring to this bill because they knew it was going to pass, so they tried to weaken it, water it down, do whatever they could to kill it or make it less effective. And one of the amendments that they proposed was specifically this, a woman who has a stalker or protective order against an individual to try to be able to bypass that 72-hour wait. The state did not allow any exceptions for this, even if they had a protective order against an individual.
SPEAKER 20 :
So, okay, next thing, and that is elections matter so much. The radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party and are in control here at our state legislature as well as the governor's mansion, and many of them are running for school boards and also city councils. So it is so important to understand this and to vote, vote for freedom, vote for the responsible exercise of freedom. These races are so important. And so we've got the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party. Teddy Collins, this Democrat Party is not the party of JFK. If people think that they're voting for that kind of a candidate, they're not. And any moderate Democrat... if they're just very quiet. And so people need to get to the ballot box. And I would say moderate Democrats, unaffiliated Republicans, conservatives, libertarians all need to be voting for candidates and policies that are for freedom. And I know that you realize how important these elections are, but I want to continue to say that this Democrat Party is not the party of JFK. It's important that people understand that it's radical activists that are in control over there now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. I mean, look at what's going on in New York. We have potentially our first socialist mayor about to be elected in America City, in New York City. It's insane. And you have the party leaders from the Democrat Party coming out and backing them and not shying away from it like they usually have in the past. The party is not the same party it used to be. It's become radical. It's become a party of control. And just so you know, without the Second Amendment and the Bill of Rights, none of the other rights are protected. That was, in my opinion, the Founding Fathers' original intent. The second protects the rest of your rights. Without the second, there's no way to protect from an overreaching government. And I believe that's what they want. It's all about control.
SPEAKER 20 :
And the American idea is about the sanctity of the individual and liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. I so appreciate the Second Syndicate being a sponsor of the show. And just tell us a little bit about Spartan Defense and what you're doing there at your business.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. Spartan Defense is one of the largest family-owned and operated gun stores. We're out of Colorado Springs in the state of Colorado. We carry a large selection of unobtainium, as we call it, things that you don't normally see at big box stores. We even have some brands that are exclusive statewide, such as Bull Armory, Cabot Alchemy, things of that nature, and very difficult-to-get brands. But we also carry something for everybody. We have guns that start at $200, and we have guns that go up to $10,000. It just depends on exactly what you're looking for. But if you're looking for that gun that's unique to you, come to Spartan Defense. We also have a full custom workshop, Cerakote, gunsmithing, everything you can think of with a firearm we can do over at Spartan.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. And what's that website, Teddy Collins?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's spartandefense.com. That's S-P-A-R-T-A-N, defense with an S, D-E-F-E-N-S-E.com.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Teddy Collins, thank you so much. We'll talk next week.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. Thanks for having me, Kim. You have a great day.
SPEAKER 20 :
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our Web site. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And while you're there, click on the red ribbon at the top of the Web page and you can download our voters guide, which I hope will be a great tool for you. for you as you are completing your ballot, and you might recommend that to others as well. And I really want you to be an informed voter to really think about these issues. So we did a good analysis on it with the recommendation and the reasoning. But of course, you take it from there as you are completing your ballot and making your choices. I wanted to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo. They're going to be celebrating their 15th anniversary, which is just amazing. And it's co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient, and Brad Padula, an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker. And they wanted to keep the stories and remember these Medal of Honor recipients. and their values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So they have portraits of valor, which really can change your life as you just look into the eyes of these men that put their life on the line to protect those around them. And we're called to do the same thing, to protect our rights for those around us. We're in a time, when I said on the show that we were made for this moment, we really are. But check out the Center for American Values. They're nonpolitical, nonpartisan. And that website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And on the line with us is Lorne Levy. He is our mortgage specialist. He can help you with anything regarding mortgages, first or second or reverse mortgage. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. We should probably let the people in New York know that you can help them in 49 of the 50 states because a lot of people may be moving out of New York. Lorne Levy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, gosh. Hey, the Fed met yesterday, and I think I saw a headline that they lowered rates. So what's going on with mortgages?
SPEAKER 12 :
They did. They lowered by a quarter, but once again, this is another example, same as in September where, um, rates have moved up ever so slightly since the meeting, because the reason is they lowered by a quarter. But they said in their statement there was one person this time who actually wanted to lower by a half of a percent, but also another Fed governor who didn't want to do anything at all. So there's some questions on the committee like we talked about. And they said that everyone was expecting another cut in December. And they made a point to go out of their way to say that that is not a foregone conclusion. They're having some trouble now with the Fed shutdown because some of their data is not being reported yet. that they rely on to make these decisions. But they said inflation crept up a little bit in what they are able to see. So they're not sure if they're going to lower in December or not. They're going to wait to see what data comes out. So you and I always talk about the 10-year U.S. Treasury. It was about $399 going into the meeting. This morning, it's $410. So rates have actually gone up a little bit since the meeting, which is what we talk about a lot when I tell you that People keep telling me in our company that, you know, I'm going to wait until the Fed lowers rates more. They're going to keep lowering. I'll wait to do a refi or wait to do something until then. And I tell them just because the Fed cuts does not necessarily mean rates are going to go down. And this was another example of it yesterday.
SPEAKER 20 :
And part of that, though, is anticipated demand for mortgages because of rates going down. Do I remember you saying that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Which part is anticipated demand?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, okay, people say, oh, I'm waiting for rates to go down, and then the rate gets cut, but because on the 10-year Treasury, people are anticipating that there will be more demand for mortgages.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, what's going on is... There's a disconnect between the public who has mortgages and what Wall Street and the market sees. So when the Fed cuts, and you and I have discussed this before, the Fed right now is cutting into an economy that doesn't necessarily have big problems. We don't have a lot of unemployment. We're not in a recession. It's not typically a time that they cut. And so they're cutting into that. And so while the average person sees that and is excited thinking mortgage rates will go down. And again, it does help their credit card payments and home equity line of credit and car loans. It helps them go down. But the real fear amongst Wall Street is that it will stoke inflation further, which is already higher than what people want. Because when you have lower rates, people have more access to credit. They'll spend more money, which creates inflation. That's the fear. That's why the 10-year note goes up. because people are afraid of inflation. And when I say people, I mean, you know, the investing public like Wall Street. But I did hear yesterday that, and this is what you and I have also talked about, that every time the Fed cuts by a quarter, it saves the federal government $88 billion of interest on the national debt a year. So that's a lot of money. And that's what we've talked about, where there's been a lot of pressure to cut rates because it'll really help with the debt. But that doesn't affect you and I, an average person that's a listener, you know. As far as mortgages go, which is the number one concern, rates have not yet gone down because of these cuts.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Next thing, Lord, I saw a headline, and I've got so many headlines now. There's so much going on. But I saw a headline within the last week or so that said the deficit had actually gone down by 2%. I'd never seen a headline like that. Now, the deficit's still way out of control, but that seemed like that was some good news.
SPEAKER 12 :
And the thing to remember is the deficit is a year-by-year thing, right? How much money does the government spend versus how much do they take in? That's our deficit. The debt is the big number, right, of the grand total of all the years. which is where you'll see billboards around the country sometimes with that dollar amount that just keeps going up, you know, in the trillions. That's the debt. And that's what they're talking about with these rate cuts that saves interest on is the national debt. The deficit is our year by year. How much does Congress and the government spend versus how much tax revenue do they take in? That I did hear the other day for the first time in a long time was a surplus deficit. which never happens you know very well not never but very rarely does the government take in more than they spend but they did have a one year or recently on a rolling basis where they took in more than they spent so you're right about that so is this because of tariffs do you think yes wow yes it's a lot because of tariffs because of what they took in yep okay okay So the question comes down to, and this is not for you and I to decide, is who's actually paying the tariffs, right? Is it the people making the goods in another country? Is it the middleman that supplies them and gets them over to our country? Or are the prices going up and are you and I paying them, which in that case makes it more like a sales tax, right? And I don't have that answer. No one really does yet. But that's the question, because if it's just revenue coming from you and I, as like an additional form of a tax kind of, well, that doesn't really help you and I, you know?
SPEAKER 20 :
I know we don't know for sure what it is. It's probably a combination of everything, don't you?
SPEAKER 12 :
That would be my... I agree, and I think that's why the Fed has been slow to move, and that's been one of their battles with the administration, is they're waiting to see who's actually paying these things, because if it's you and I and the consumer, then it's actually a form of inflation, right? Because it's like additional sales tax or higher prices. And that's why they keep waiting to see where it's coming through as. If it's the foreign countries that are eating it, well, that's not a problem for us. So that's what they've been saying they're trying to figure out.
SPEAKER 20 :
And I bet it is a combination on all of that. We talk about debt, but what we're seeing is we have these conversations about how concerned we are about the national debt. And then we, on the local level... vote for tax increases and extending debt and uh... funding more and more government and uh... so we need to to be looking locally to not be taking on debt that the taxpayers have to pay or higher and higher taxes as well and uh... and and what has happened is many of the consultants that are helping these government entities that are using our tax dollars many times to promote us to vote for a higher tax They craft language which sounds good, but it's not really that good. I really think that we need to cut the spigot off. It's like a parent that has a kid that is out of control, and they just continue to give them more and more money. I think it's time for us, the voter, to turn the spigot off on all of these taxes and debt.
SPEAKER 12 :
You're probably right, and the only difference is the federal government can build that national debt system whereas the states have to have a balanced budget every year by law. So when things take the slightest little turn and you have all this tax and spend, and the slightest little thing happens, the economy turns, all of a sudden you see what's happening with the Colorado budget where they have to make drastic cuts, and then that rocks people's worlds, you know, because they're used to getting stuff now, and all of a sudden they have to cut it because they have to balance the budget. So I agree with you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and that's another thing, and Rob Knuth referenced this in our number one on the commentary that I put into the cut ratings report, is the word was that Colorado had about a billion dollars, just south of a billion dollar deficit. And so they did the special session, and they gave Polis the power to cut the budget. He cut maybe $252 million. But then what they did is they went back to pick the pockets of Coloradans to try to make up the rest of that in higher taxes. And what they don't understand is, is the higher taxes... then affect the economy in a negative way, and so there will be less taxes. They don't seem to understand that. Your final thought on all this, Lorne Levy, and we'll talk next week, but super interesting.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, no, I'm glad we get to have these conversations, and my final thought is always that you and I talk about one of the themes of your show is opportunity knocks, and you've got to jump on it because opportunity You know, you can always undo things like, for example, in my world with a refinance or a home purchase, when you get a rate and you're happy with it and the payment works, you're great, you're happy, you're in. And you can always refinance and lower at a later date. But if you're waiting and waiting and waiting for rates to go down, you may miss the opportunity that passes you by because you didn't act. And so if you have any questions or you just want to be on the radar, give us a call. And, you know, we maintain lists of people that are interested in doing things that want to know if a raid hits a certain point. But when we call, be ready to act and, you know, because the windows can be short.
SPEAKER 20 :
And that number is 303-880-8881. Lorne Levy, we'll talk next week. Okay. Thank you so much, Kim. In our quote for the end of the show is from Von Garte. He said, every day we should hear at least one little song, read one good poem, see one exquisite picture, and if possible, speak a few sensible words. My friends, we'll talk with you again tomorrow.
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Join Bill Gunderson as he navigates the volatile market landscape driven by recent decisions from Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. Dive deep into the world's economic currents with discussions on China's rare earth deals, the fluctuating futures of tech giants Alphabet and Meta, and the enduring potential of Eli Lilly's pharmaceutical innovations. In this episode, explore how these macroeconomic shifts reflect in the stock market's ups and downs, offering insights into the critical factors at play for investors today.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome to the roller coaster ride on this Thursday, October 30th. Is it a trick or a treat that's hitting the market here today? A little bit of both, I guess you could say. This is Bill Gunderson. It's the Best Stocks Now show, and I'm here with Barry Kite. Our chartered financial analyst, we opened up big to the downside on the NASDAQ. It was down over 300 points. It has gained back about half of that loss right now. It's down 152 after hitting a new all-time high here this week. The Dow, on the other hand, is now up and in the green by 221 points. It was down a half a percent at the open period. We're at 47,853 on the Dow. The S&P 500 is down a quarter of a point right now, 68.72 on its journey towards 7,000 possibly. The bad news is in the bond market. Good old Jerome, there's nobody that can kill a rally like Jerome Powell can. And he did it again yesterday, turning the market, which was well in the positive at one time, to the negative. And the bond market getting clobbered today. The 10-year is up to 4.11 after dipping below 4 recently. So thanks, Jerome, for the trick, not the treat yesterday. Gold is flat right now at 4,002. Big story in Bitcoin, however, down 4,760 today to 107. So welcome to today's Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, President of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only registered investment advisory, financial planning, money management firm. We all do it here. We do it all here in one house, one place. Your one-stop shop, I guess you could say. Well, you know what? We're drinking from a fire hose right now as far as the news flow goes. So it's always fun to do a show when there's lots of different.
SPEAKER 06 :
Plenty to talk about.
SPEAKER 07 :
From China to nuclear test resuming by our military. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. We'll pick up where we left off yesterday. Jerome Powell delivered the quarter point rate cut. Very stingy is he. And really kind of, I think, said no to any more rate cuts this year. The Grinch, the old Grinch, who's got about four months left on his contract, and I'm sure he'll be packing his bags when his contract is up. Are you planning a party, Bill? Are we going to have a going-away party? A going-away party. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Jerome. But anyways, he threw water on the rally with his maybe no more rate cuts this year comment. But, you know, the damage really was done to the bond market there. We were down below four, and mortgage rates were starting to – get down closer to 6%, and nope, he pretty much threw water on the bond market yesterday too, and now all of a sudden we're back up to 4.11%.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, now we only have a 70% chance of a rate cut here at the December meeting. Before yesterday, there was a very high probability that we were going to have you know, 50 basis points and cuts, meaning two more, one yesterday and one in December. So it is a repricing of the bond market.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. And he has a 100%. If you look at the probability markets, a 100% chance of not returning in May, I guess it is, when his contract is up. So anyways, that's the way it goes. The Fed throws a lot of weight around in the market. And now we move to China. Oh, and speaking of drinking from a fire hose, the earnings yesterday was super Wednesday. Super Wednesday. So we're just going to pick the highlights out here today. Trump cuts fentanyl tariffs on China. That's good. He goes from 20% to 10%. They must have made some huge concessions. And they reached a rare earth deal with Beijing. The rare earths are up today. They get a one year reprieve on the restrictions. And lastly, Nvidia did not come up in his talks with Xi. So that Blackwell chip is still a big bargaining chip for us on our side. And on their side, it's the rare earth. And in the meantime, we've got at least a year to really ramp up our production and our supplies and our sources. There's the big problem, the sources for rare earth. Update on World War III real quickly. Trump directs Pentagon to resume nuke testing after a 33-year pause. So I don't know if they'll be blowing up some atoll out there in the Pacific Ocean or what, but I guess that peace through strength move by Trump, putting the rest of the world on notice. You know, North Korea did their own nuclear test, or missile, missile firing. just as Trump was arriving in Asia. So, you know, peace through strength. What can I say? No discussion with Xi on Blackwell chips, and NVIDIA is down a little bit today. How about a $1 trillion IPO? You know, you think NVIDIA crossing the $5 trillion mark. How about a private company out there that could be worth a trillion? When it IPOs, that would be the chat GPT maker, OpenAI. Let's see where that puts Sam Altman as far as the world's richest people on the world's richest people list. But that's the buzz. A trillion dollars is possible. When will it come public? Well, they better do it. No, no, late 2026 is what they're saying on that one. okay earnings tonight coming from apple and amazon double a those are a couple big double a batteries there that could really uh uh you know move the markets one way or another and last night we got a huge trio of uh the the the seven the fabulous seven stocks reporting along with what I think is the best pharmaceutical stock in the market today, and along with a plethora of other smaller stocks down the line reporting. The government shutdown remains in force for now. Soaring premiums. ACA enrollees get first look at 2026. Insurance plans, and guess what, Barry? They're going up. This is Obamacare. And, you know, really the shutdown, one of the biggest sticking points is... During COVID, the government agreed to subsidize Obamacare ACA enrollees because of the effects of COVID. And now those have run out, and the Democrats want to extend those cuts, even despite COVID basically not being much of a factor anymore, and the Republicans are against that. And that's kind of, it seems to me, what it all comes down to. But the cost of the premiums, are going to just soar when those new rates come out. It seems to me like we've got kind of a program that's falling apart that needs to be retooled. But that's at the center, at the core of this current showdown, standoff with the government shutdown. Should the benefits be extended that were given? during the emergency of COVID. China has plans to significantly expand rare earth export patrols. So I think that's going to put in a bottom on the rare earth stocks. that really have fallen since this rumor started and then became news that we would get a one-year pause. And you know what? I mean, there's just no question about it. We've got a fine.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're still going to have to secure your own supply going forward.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, you know, the government has made a big investment in MP materials, in critical minerals. In Lithium America, not for the lithium, but for the rare earths that are mingled in with the lithium. And those stocks were on a tear until this all hit. Then they really sold off hard. And now probably pretty good buys, a lot of them down here at this level. There's probably about a dozen or so rare earth stocks, including some in Australia and some in China, obviously, and even a couple of rare earth stocks down in Brazil that I've been tracking. Okay, when we come back... What is going on with Bitcoin? And could the market be carving out a top here with this little bit of a sell-off today after hitting new records recently? There is a new sentiment indicator out that actually could be a bearish indicator. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, I wrote an article maybe three weeks ago in the newsletter about should Bitcoin investors be worried? And, of course, you know, I know a lot of people that are very, very bullish and have conviction that, in bitcoin's future i'm a skeptic okay i'm a well-known skeptic i don't make any bones about it i use uh the grayscale bitcoin trust gbtc as the chart that i look at because it's been around the longest it was around way before these etfs came along so that chart for me carries a lot more weight to it Bitcoin is still above its 200-day moving average. And it still has a golden cross, the 50-day crossed above the 200-day. Now, we're just looking at technical analysis here alone. Because what else can you look at on Bitcoin? You can't look at earnings. You can't look at book value. You can't look at price to sales. We can look at a chart, okay? It is still above its 200-day moving average. But should it drop below that 200-day moving average, I would think that that would not be good. I mean, Bitcoin has not really been tested recently, Barry, as far as just how much conviction do investors have when push really starts to come to shove here, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, the last true test for it really was when Bankman Freed got popped and and then they had to sell off a bunch of assets, and part of that being some Bitcoin assets too. to pay back their investors a bit. And that put a lot of selling pressure on Bitcoin. But that was back around $30,000, not $108,000. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
And just from a chart point of view, you've got a triple top now. It got up to this ceiling, we'll call it, in early July. Bang, it hit it again in mid-August. It hit it again about a month ago, and it's backing off pretty severely here. I mean, it's down 14, about 15% now, which puts it in correction territory. Should it hit that 20% down from its recent high, that puts it into bear territory. And I think you would see a real test of just how much conviction investors really have in the cryptocurrency. So anyways, and there's a few inverse Bitcoin ETFs out there. Biti is one, B-I-T-I. And the other one, Biti is one time inverse. And SBIT, S-B-I-T, if you don't have any conviction and you think Bitcoin's a house of cards ready to fail at some point in time, SBIT is twice, I believe it's twice the inverse, yes, it is, of the Bitcoin index. So you can watch those both trading on the inverse side because that tells you a lot about the long side of the equation, too, when you look at the inverse side. So anyways, like I say, it's still above its 200-day moving average, which is considered long-term support. It has a very solid line of resistance that it keeps bumping its head against and backing off and can't puncture through it. And it's also now in the midst of a 15% correction that could get worse. It could rebound from here. We'll just have to watch it. And really, on Bitcoin, about all you have to go by is the chart of the underlying asset. Okay, earnings. Oh, I wanted to get to the American Association of Individual Investors. Bullish sentiment is way up. Why do I mention that? Because it's usually a contrary indicator. You've got investor optimism, bullish sentiment among individual investors who are usually wrong. Now, I hate to take a shot at individual investors like that, but I would just say that most... As a consensus. Yes, there's some good ones amongst the individuals, and there's a lot of bad ones who sell at the bottom and buy at the top. And when we see bullish sentiment among individual investors rising to 44%, up from 36.9% the prior week, that's a very bearish indicator, believe it or not, meaning that the individual investors are usually wrong. The reading marks the strongest bullish outlook in recent weeks as investors reacted to upbeat corporate earnings and moderating inflation expectations. Well, yeah, there's no question. We don't have an earnings problem, and I've said that many times, but we have an S&P 500 that's now trading at 28.8 times earnings, which is going back to the year 2000 when we got just over 30. The forward PE ratio is 23.3, which is the highest it's been since the sugar high sentiment on the market from COVID in 2021. Price to sales is 3.4. Price to book is 1.6. And price to cash flow is also extremely high on the S&P 500 right now. So we have a very bullish outlook. Sentiment is running very high. and that's coupled now with some very very high valuation so you have to be careful here right now in this market okay now let's take a look at some of these earnings let's let's let's let's begin with the good one of the day how about google that was a really good earnings report alphabet i know it's hard to remember i i'm always going to call this stock google Google Alphabet, even the symbol is G-O-O-G-L, Google. It's not A-B-C. It should be A-B-C, right? But Alphabet is up 5.3%. Guess what? It's hitting a brand new all-time high. Alphabet is a large position at our firm because we own it in the premier growth portfolio. And we own it in the value slash relative value portfolio. And we still have a lot left over from the dividend and growth portfolio, which we discontinued, because it does pay a small dividend. I mean, I would take a stock like Google all day long in a dividend portfolio that only pays 30 basis points over Verizon, which pays 7% dividend because Google has earnings growth, and Google has racked up tremendous track record over the years of stock performance, while Verizon has been very, very mediocre. So Alphabet comes in with earnings up 10%. Sales up 16%, and that may not sound that robust, but it is for a company that's closing in. It's now $3.4 trillion. Will it be the next $4 trillion? Will it join the $4 trillion club? The stock breaking out to new all-time highs. It's up 5.3%, which is a huge move for a $3.4, $3.5 trillion company. Now, when we come back, one of the other fabulous sevens has an ugly reaction to its reports today. We'll be right back. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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Because there's something in the air.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, I just want to go back to Google for a moment here. To me, the takeaway line or comments were made by Sundar Pichai, the CEO and director. He opened the call yesterday emphasizing this was a terrific quarter for Alphabet. driven by double-digit growth across every major part of our business. We are seeing AI now driving real business results across the company. We delivered our first ever $100 billion quarter He highlighted that Alphabet's revenue has doubled in five years and noted, well, the rule of 72, that's 14%, a little over 14% per year growth. The Gemini app, which is their AI tool, has now has over 650 million monthly users and queries increased three times from Q2. So it looks like all systems are go at... Google. Now let's turn to Meta. And here's the money line or the money losing line for Meta. Everything was going well. You know, I mean, he's talking about another strong quarter, 3.5 billion people using at least one of our apps every day. That's about half the world. zuckerberg highlighted instagram's milestone of three billion monthly actives and threads surpassing 150 he talks in language like you know i guess that's gen x what is he millennial language threads surpassing 150 million i hope he wasn't wearing those goofy glasses during the uh you know the presentation barry i mean talk about The ultimate nerd, Zuckerberg. Now, he's super intelligent, no question about that. And he went on and on about how they're doing this and how they're doing that. But then the bombshell was, and it came from Susan Lee. I'm not sure what her role was, but she's pretty high up there on the chain. She said... We expect the set of investments we're making within our ads and organic engagement initiatives next year will enable us to continue to deliver strong revenue growth in 2026. But warned, and here's the bugaboo that has sent this stock south. CapEx, that's capital expenditures, that's infrastructures that they need to purchase and put into use. CapEx dollar growth will be notably larger in 2026 than 2025. We also anticipate total expenses... will grow at significantly faster at a significantly faster percentage rate than twenty twenty five in other words margins are going down with growth primarily driven by infrastructure cost what capex is usually depreciated i mean it's not uh... an expense that is immediately recognized that's why you treated differently it shows up in the cash flow price to cash flow uh... uh... but when the cash flow statement Whereas earnings will be hit by significantly higher expenses. Those are expensed immediately. And that has sent the shares down. There is some buying coming into it right now. This is either one of the greatest buying opportunities in a long, long time. Or there's now a systemic problem in Meta. We'll just have to wait and see where the numbers come in at for next year after the analysts make these adjustments. The stock is down 12.3%. It's at $1.65 trillion. It's not in the $4 trillion club, not even anywhere close to it. But look, their sales were up. 20% year over year, well, it's decelerating. I mean, their last three quarters were 50%, 37%, 38%, and then it drops off to only 20%. And their earnings were up 26%, which is a very strong number for Meta. But, you know, like I say, the money line there that the stock is reacting to is the heavy CapEx spending that Meta has to do to keep up with the Joneses, I guess you could say. And that is hitting the stock because that's going to hit their price to cash flow. And the market is adjusting meta stock right now.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it's the most susceptible one. I mean, you know, the thing is with, you know, Microsoft and, you know, Google and even Amazon, right? I mean, you know, their hyperscaling is so then they can host, right? you know, some of these other players in terms of, you know, in terms of, and it becomes a revenue source pretty quickly. In this sense, for Meta, you know, they're not necessarily doing the hyperscaling. They're spending, you know, for themselves to make themselves more competitive players.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it takes time for that to drop to the bottom line of earnings. So, you know, look, I mean, these investors are sometimes very impatient. They can't wait. You just hope they're making good decisions and investing in areas that will someday give them a good return on investment. But right now there's some question, and it caught the street by surprise, and hence the big sell-off in Meta. For me, the earnings report of the day – This is just sensational. Besides, you know, Google was very good. But how about Zepbound and Eli Lilly, a company that's been around for 100 years in Indianapolis, Indiana? How about sales that were up 54% year over year? How about earnings that were up 495% year over year? I think Lilly deserves to be up a lot more than it is today. It is up $20 per share or 2.4%. And as you know, Lilly is also one of our largest holdings. We own it in the Premier Growth, the old Dividend and Growth, and the Relative Value Portfolio. That is just a stunning number and definitely gives credence to the potency and the effectiveness of Zepbound, the miracle weight loss drug that has upended the entire industry. Look at the dieting, fitness industry. I mean, it's affecting the restaurant industry. It's affecting shoppers at Wal-Mart. It's making people healthier, in my book, in my opinion. The stock is up 2.4% today. That's going to be a trillion-dollar company.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's $790 million right now. I saw a report earlier this week, too, where they're going crazy. going strong in terms of producing the pill i mean they're they're so right now they're making a bunch of the pill in hopes right that it's going to you know and they're they're essentially believe it will get approved but uh you know they i saw something where it said the amount of pills that they're making is is unbelievable like they're they're ready to go wow i mean wow that's something and i think you know i think that is a bit of a barrier
SPEAKER 07 :
A shot in the stomach, self-administered for some people, might make them squeamish. They're also ramping up. They made a deal with Walmart to make the shots available right now. You can go, instead of having it shipped to your door, and that's going to cut their expenses, I would think, a little bit.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, one of them made it with Costco, too. I can't remember if it was Lilly or if it was Novo Nordisk, but I saw where they've got a, you know, you'd be able to get your Costco, you know, get your ZipBound at Costco and get your protein. Well, there you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, you know, I mean, it's a one-two punch there. And I still am a big, big believer in Lilly because I've seen results from too many people that are absolutely astonishing. Absolutely astonishing. Okay, Microsoft, you know, so-so. But for me, for a $4 trillion company, 18% growth in earnings. I mean, Kimberly-Clark would die to have 18% growth or in sales or Procter & Gamble or Johnson & Johnson or whoever else. They only had 18% growth. 23% growth in earnings, which is also sensational that they've been able to remain so relevant. despite being around for quite some time. This stock has gone from 97 back in 2019 to 529 today, Microsoft. We don't have a large position in it, but we still have a position left over from our dividend and growth portfolio, so it's a decent-sized position. Microsoft is down 2.2% today, as the expectations, I guess, were loftier than where they came in at. But I think that is pretty good. And, of course, Microsoft has got a big investment in OpenAI, which we talked about. which could be a trillion-dollar IPO, and Microsoft has the leader with ChatGPT in the AI space. So nothing to sneeze at there. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 1 :
You've got to go where you want to go.
SPEAKER 01 :
Do what you want to do with it, whoever.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show where we're drinking from a veritable fire hose of news flow here today. Everything from Trump and Xi's face-to-face meeting yesterday wherein a one-year pause was put on the rare earth supplies. NVIDIA was not spoken about, and the fentanyl tariff was lowered from 20% to 10%. We still have Apple and Amazon coming tonight with their earnings, and we had an absolute gusher of earnings yesterday. Now, I want to tell you a little story. why it's good to be vigilant, and how helpful CMT. Is that what that is? Chartered? What is it? What is it? Technical analysis? Chartered market technician. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I lack the designation, but I've got 25 years. Maybe 30 years of experience looking at it.
SPEAKER 06 :
At worst, you've got a ruler and some lines on the screen.
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Yes, and you know, that's my last thing I look at. I mean, the fundamentals, the valuation, the momentum, the performances, everything. But that visual look is invaluable. A picture really tells a story. And we did pick up in the relative value portfolio several months ago some Chipotle shares. i'd just thought that you know this still is a strong franchise uh... it still has its uh... dedicated followers uh... and uh... on a on a relative basis the the ratios evaluation ratios were very very inexpensive and the story still had some legs right yes and then i've watched it really not do anything in fact defy my logic which can happen you know the market doesn't always agree with you And I've been saying, you know, I just don't know. And then it started to perk up. And I read some articles last week from analysts that said, oh, they've got it turned around. They're going to come in with a very strong report, which they reported last night after the close. So anyways, about 3 o'clock yesterday, an hour before the close, this was after the Fed said, Made their disastrous talk. Jerome Powell does it again. And the market was reeling and rolling and rocking and, you know, quite a turnaround there in the last couple hours of the day. I said, I'm going to check my stocks one more time. My kids, you know, that I look at every day. And I looked at CMG's chart and I said, you know what? I just do not like this chart at all. And with 30 minutes before the bell rang, I unloaded that in one block sale. Maybe two block sales I had to do because it was kind of funny the way it was positioned and stuff. But anyways, boom, gone. And you know, look, I very rarely do that. That is a very rare occurrence. Usually if you own a stock, you know, owning it during earnings season is part of owning the stock, okay? You can't sell a stock every time earnings season comes along and then buy it back after earnings season. Sometimes you get your biggest moves during earnings season to the upside. And also, obviously, you can get some big down moves during earnings season. And after the close, I saw them report, and it was drifting lower. And then as he kept talking, Boatwright, I think is his name, the new CEO, I saw it just start peeling off as he announced, well, you know, we have a challenging macro environment, which is usually a good fallback. You know, you blame the U.S. economy if you're not executing well. He said, our third quarter performance fell short of our expectations due to persistent macroeconomic pressures. Well, I got to believe they have an inflation problem over there at Chipotle. They use a lot of protein. Protein, one of the most inflationary products in the market today. And, of course, avocado prices, tomato prices, lettuce prices, et cetera.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and they're getting squeezed from both ends because, you know, they have a value proposition problem with the customer, right, because, you know, this stuff is a little bit more expensive than other, you know, kind of quick service restaurant that you might go to. And then... On the other end, they've got the value issue, and of course that keeps them from being able to raise prices going forward, at least for a period of time. So they're kind of caught between a rock and a hard place.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, their only way out of it is not through organic growth, because organic growth is suffering there. It has to be through building new stores, which are expensive to do. But they have a lot of ambition to get Chipotle brand outside of America. I don't know how it will do in Mexico. With all those good taco stands down there, which I so much miss from my Southern California days. I've eaten plenty of tacos in Baja during my career.
SPEAKER 06 :
I saw something. I didn't watch the video, but I guess Chick-fil-A made it to the... I guess it's in the UK now. Oh, good. Which I think it's pretty interesting to see how... How that would fare, I would imagine it would probably fare pretty well over there.
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Yeah, I think China might be a good market for them, but I don't know how Chipotle would play in China. So anyway, Chipotle's stock right now is down 17.4%. So the chart, it came down to the chart for me. Their sales were up 8% year over year, and that's coming mostly from new stores. Now, that's the rub. I mean, you want organic growth at your existing stores. That's a lot cheaper than going out and adding more stores. Their earnings were only up 7%. This has become a single-digit grower. then that's not good when you're trading it. Over the last five years, they've been growing by 40%. To go from 40% over the last five years now all of a sudden to single digits, that multiple comes into question big time, P.E. ratio of 34%. So there's just an example about how being vigilant works. Now, some of the subscribers may not have sold. I sent that out with like 30 minutes left in the market. You had to be near a phone or something in order to execute your own trade, but that's what I did yesterday, and that's why I did it. And we're out of time. I was going to get to Kimberly-Clark, my favorite stock to bash, along with Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Verizon, et cetera.
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The cliffhanger for tomorrow.
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Dive into a thought-provoking discussion on 'The Flatline' as Rick Hughes explores the fundamental divine institutions that serve as the pillars for human existence. Discover how freedom, marriage, family, and nationalism are deeply interconnected and how they guide our daily lives. Rick shares insights on making sound decisions based on Biblical wisdom and the consequences of emotional or irrational choices, urging listeners to stay grounded in faith-based thinking.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stay with me. It won't be long, just a short 30 minutes, but some motivation, some inspiration, some education with no manipulation, no con jobs, not asking for money, not trying to get you to join anything. We just want to give you some information that will help you verify and identify the plan of God for your life if you're interested. And if you are, you can orient and adjust to the plan with the information that I give you. But we've been running the Flotline now for 17 years all across the United States. We broadcast in 112 cities every Sunday morning, as you're hearing us this morning. And welcome to Cleveland. Cleveland has come on board with the Flotline. And so thank you for having us in the great city of Cleveland. i want to give you a couple of announcements before we get started we have two more new books that we're making available to you remember these books are always free we do not charge for anything if you want it write for it on through the website request it and it's free because i've always believed if god's in it god will pay for it and we don't try to sell anything and uh we also have some transcripts of our radio shows for the year 2021 Every radio show we ever did, we put them into a book format, and you can read them in transcripts all the way from 2018 to 2021. Many of you find reading is a better effective way to study on your own pace, and I know you'll like these transcripts. They're great, great resources for those of you who don't use computers. 52 lessons from 2021, 52 lessons from 2018 in book format if you want them. Just contact me through the website, rickhughesministries.org, or you can call 800-831-0718. or write to me at P.O. Box 100 in the mighty city of Cropwell, Alabama, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054. Of course, our website is simply rickhughesministries.org. Again, all of our material is free, no charge. Our new books are available, Practicing in Christianity, which deals with learning how to be a spiritual superstar, one of God's champions. Learn how to use the information there. A new book on Bible promises and principles that I think you'll enjoy, a much smaller version of what we've had in the past. And special thanks to all our graphic people. Up in College Station, Texas, Miss Melody that designs all of this. Remember, you can listen on your phone or your computer by podcast. All of our Flatline shows from 2012 are podcast. In the podcast library, over 500 lessons and transcripts of each lessons are linked. You can find the podcast shows on the podcast platforms like Apple, iPod, or Spotify, Breaker, Anchor, any of these that we have. Okay? All right, enough of the announcements. Three minutes worth of that stuff. Okay, you ready to take a look at the Word of God this morning? We want to study the consequences of bad decisions, the consequences of bad decisions. I have a bumper sticker, and that bumper sticker says, bad decisions limit future options. If you want one, let us know. We'll send it to you. Bad decisions limit future options. And you've heard me say that on this show. That principle is true in every area of life. Every decision we make, that decision is based on either what we think or based on what we feel, which is an emotional thing. So making decisions based on what you feel is simply you making an emotional choice. Usually that's an irrational response to some appealing situation. And even in adversity, you can react with emotion or respond with faith-based divine viewpoint thinking. But making a decision based on what you think is assuming that you are thinking the truth, not thinking the lie. So in order to make good decisions in life, we must have an inventory of divine viewpoint. This inventory of divine viewpoint in the Bible is called wisdom, and it is acquired from instruction. Wisdom comes from instruction. Whose instruction come from? Comes from the Holy Spirit using God's word normally as taught by a well-qualified pastor. not some off-the-wall philosopher who was all human viewpoint or humanism or his idea of what you should do. Go to the Word of God and you'll find the truth. Proverbs 5.23 says he will die from lack of instruction. That's the adulterer that Solomon is talking about to his son in that passage. So there has to be instruction. That instruction has to be from the Word of God. Listen to Jeremiah 17.5. Thus saith the Lord, cursed is the man that trusteth in man and makes flesh his arm and whose heart departs from the Lord. On the contrary, here is the divine source of information needed. to have a wonderful life. Listen to Jeremiah again, 17, seven and eight. Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord as faith rests and whose hope is in the Lord. There's the faith rest drill. For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters and that spreadeth out her roots by the river and shall not see when heat comes, but her leaves shall be green, and shall not be careful in the years of drought, neither shall she cease from yielding fruit. So you want to have a wonderful life? Plant yourself by the waters and the waters of the word of God. In case you're wondering if God knows every decision that you make, you know, you make a thousand decisions a day. Yes, he does. Jeremiah 17, 10. I, the Lord, search the heart. I try the rains even to give every man according to his ways and according to the fruit of his being. This refers to the omniscience of God who knows even the secret desires of our hearts. Psalm 19, 14, let the words of my mouth and the meditations of my heart be acceptable in your sight. Oh Lord, my strength and my redeemer. So he knows everything you're thinking. The instructions given in the scriptures are designed to bless your life, not curse you. The word of God is designed to give you a wonderful, fulfilling, meaningful life. Proverbs 19, 20, listen to advice and accept instruction so that you can have wisdom in the future. That's what we started out with. How to not make bad decisions. Get some biblical wisdom from instruction. Listen to advice and accept instruction that you may gain wisdom in the future. Proverbs 19, 20. And 2 Timothy 3, 16 tells you all scripture from the cover to cover is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. So biblical instructions taught by a well-qualified pastor outline the path to happiness in time as well as the security of eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Decisions based on scripture are your keys to happiness. But first, we must grasp this, what God designed is a system. And when we follow that system, it will produce happiness for all members of the human race. That system we know as the divine institutions, and they point the way to happiness in time even if the person is not a Christian, if he's not a believer, if he's an unbeliever. The divine institutions are revealed in Scripture throughout the Mosaic Law from Codex I to Codex III. And what you have to remember is the rule of law must be followed for any type of privacy or any type of freedom to exist. If there's no rule of law, then privacy and freedom don't exist. And those of you that live in cities that have experienced riots when the police are not able to do their job, you understand your loss of privacy and your loss of freedom when the rule of law doesn't exist. But God has ordained these divine institutions in four categories. This is how the human race is preserved and perpetuated as an extension of the angelic conflict. They are freedom, marriage, family, nationalism. Again, freedom, volitional freedom, marriage, family, and nationalism. The divine institutions are created for people like you and me. God started the human race with only one person, Adam, and every divine institution is composed of people. So divine institution number one, volitional freedom, freedom to choose. God designed you to be free. He did not make you into a little automaton, a little robot. God designed you to be free to choose your own destiny. In the Garden of Eden, he gave Adam a choice to choose his own destiny. Listen to the choice in Genesis 2.15. And the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and keep it. And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree in the garden you may eat freely, but, here's the test, of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat of that one. For the day that you eat, thereof you will die. So he had a choice. He used his volition and he decided to go against what God told him. You also are free to choose your own destiny. Choose, use your volition to choose your destiny. You can choose for Jesus Christ or you can choose against Jesus Christ. Again, God gives you the freedom to choose. In John 3, 17, God sent not his son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him, that's the Lord Jesus Christ, is not condemned. That's taken off of you. Christ paid your sin. He paid the debt. But he that believes not, that's your volitional decision, is condemned already because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. You are free to choose for or against God's plan. God gives you that choice, just like he gave Adam the choice. Adam made a bad decision. Convinced by Eve that she had been tricked and deceived, he went ahead and partook of the fruit. So let's look into this one now. Divine institution number two. What is that? That's marriage. God took Adam from divine institution number one, volitional freedom, to divine institution number two, marriage, by creating the perfect counterpart for him. That first marriage was performed by the Lord Jesus Christ himself in the Garden of Eden when he brought the right woman to the right man. The word called monogamy is a permanent relationship between one man and one woman, and it is ordained by God to remind mankind that he has from the beginning a design for them. It's called right man, right woman. And whoever you are, there is the right person for you. 1 Corinthians 7, 2, nevertheless to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. Verse 3, 1 Corinthians 7, let the husband render to the wife due benevolence, and also the wife to the husband. Verse 4, the wife hath not power over her own body, but the husband, and likewise the husband hath not power over his body, but the wife. God never told any husband to be a bully. God never told any husband to boss his wife around. But in the end, any responsibility, it boils down to the man. God's going to hold the man responsible. So your decisions in regard to who you marry are critical in determining your future happiness. 2 Corinthians 6, verse 14. Be ye not unequally yoked together with an unbeliever. For what fellowship does righteousness have with unrighteousness, and what communion does light have with darkness? We find the first decision in making a partner, marrying someone, is are they a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ? Have they accepted him as their Savior? If you decide to get married and you marry an unbeliever, you're violating that principle that God set up. The principle is this, that God wants believers to marry believers because you don't have fellowship. You don't think alike. There's no way you can think alike if you're not on the same page, and marriage is about thinking alike. It's a great life of communication and talking with one another, worshiping together, experiencing great things together with children. You have to be on the same page. Divine institution number three is the family. God has provided certain divine laws, such as the authority of the parents to protect for, care for, nourish, provide, train, discipline children. Why? So they can be prepared for life. So parental authority is the way of preparing children for a normal life. If they don't orient to authority now, they won't be able to orient to authority later. It starts with the authority of the parents. It goes to the authority of the principal. It goes to the authority of the police officer. It goes to the authority even of the pastor. So parental authority must be taught and it prepares your child for a normal life. Anybody who can't respect authority cannot live a normal life because of their own arrogance. They will always see themselves as not responsible. They'll always try to point the blame to someone else and they'll never take responsibility for their own bad decisions. So they have to have respect for authority. And that means if you tell them don't, they don't. If you have to tell them don't 25 times and they still do it anyhow, you're not doing a very good job. Permissiveness on the parents destroys this. You can't bribe your children into obeying. The Bible says bring up your children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. We'll see that here. So there has to be a recognition of authority in the home and orientation to principles in the home. So the highest expression of parental love under divine institution number three, the family, is that children must be trained to respect the privacy, the property, the rights of others and not to abuse the freedom and have respect for authority. This is the way Paul wrote it in Ephesians 6. Children, obey your parents and the Lord for this is right. Honor your father and your mother, which is the first commandment with a promise, so that it may be well with you, and you may live a long time on this earth. Oh, write that one down now. So you can have a wonderful life and live a long time on this earth. And you fathers, do not provoke your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord. Those two words, nurture and admonition. Nousia and paideia, the two Greek words. One of them means to put something in their mind and one of them means to put something on the behind. So authority is taught by putting something in their mind and sometimes on the behind. No one likes to have to discipline children, but sometimes it's necessary. I certainly got my share of discipline, not necessarily from my mother because I grew up in a single household where I had no father. But at school, I certainly learned this principle from my coach and the board's advisor. I got some of my behind a lot of times. As a matter of fact, if we made any else in our report card, the coach would already line the football team up. And we'd get three licks for every elf we got. That was not fun. So we had to learn to obey the coach when he said study and pass so you'd be eligible to play. That's important. So that's the highest expression of parental love, teaching discipline to your children so that when they get older, they are not undisciplined when they get older they will respect the authority of the police respect the authority of the pastor even in the local church respect the authority of the principal in school you can't live without authority that stop sign stop does not mean skid tires on pavement it means stop that's a law that's authority If you run the stop sign and don't stop, or if you skid your tires on the pavement, you're going to get a ticket because you can't handle the authority of a little stop sign. Divine institution number four is nationalism. If the entire human race were under one rule prior to the millennial reign of our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, then it would indeed self-destruct. That's why God designed individual nations so we don't self-destruct. Internationalism is outlawed as being evil by the word of God. God never designed this world to be one language, one race, one anything. He distributed us around. So to perpetuate the human race and to bring history to the logical conclusion, God designed the nation to protect the freedom and the rights of X number of people on the planet. We call this nationalism. One language should be recognized in a nation, not much in languages. So if you live in America and you're an American, you need to learn to speak American. However, we've gotten away from that. Now we want to speak Spanish and we want to speak everything else and we want people to live here and they don't have to learn English. That's not good. The biblical proof that nationalism is authorized by God is found in the scriptures in Acts 17, 26 through 28. And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth. and have determined the times before appointed, and the boundaries of their habitation, boundaries of their habitation, that they should seek the Lord, if happily they might. flee after him and find him, though he be not far from every one of us. For in him we live and we move and we have our own being as certain also of your own, poets have said, for we are also his offspring. So what did that verse tell you? He's made of one blood, all nations of men to dwell on the face of the earth and to determine the times before appointed and the boundaries of their habitation. So God, decided who's going to live in the Middle East and what they're going to look like, who's going to live in the West and what they're going to look like. And this life is not designed for us all to be one race, one people, one language, one monetary system. But that's exactly what the Antichrist will seek to do once he comes into power during the tribulation. Now it's clear that satanic diversion from these four divine institutions will bring about the downfall of any nation, including our own nation. So we have to understand these four areas are under attack in the USA today, in our own country, and the political leaders of our times apparently don't recognize these divine institutions today. or don't care. So freedom, volitional freedom, whenever some politician attempts to take away your freedom and says, well, you can't do this or you can't do that. We're going to take away this. We're going to take away that. It's going to make everybody safer. It's going to make everybody better. It's going to make everybody sweeter. Since when did some politician decide what you can and can't do? But that's what they are always up to, trying to manipulate the human race. So they take away your freedom. It started with you had to wear a seatbelt. If you don't wear a seatbelt, you get a ticket. Got to wear a seatbelt. Can't kill yourself. Not allowed. It's against the law to kill yourself. Put that seatbelt on, dummy. And there's nothing wrong with a seatbelt. I wear seatbelt every day, but what's wrong is the mandate requiring it. And then we're going to take this away. We're going to take that away. We're going to do this. We're going to do that. Always about your freedoms. A lot of people are so weird about this. They don't even want to be on the internet. They don't want a cell phone. They don't want to lose their freedom by people snooping into their privacy and their business. But all four areas are under attack today in our own country. The attack of your individual freedom is a daily political quest. The attack of marriage has been going on since the free love movement of the 70s. I mean, who needs marriage commitment today, right? Everybody needs marriage commitment. God ordained marriage as a legitimate way to train and raise children. God didn't ordain you to live single with your mate because you love each other. We don't really need to get married. There's no commitment when you live like that. Even the attack of same-sex marriage destroys the concept of one man, one woman monogamy. God did not authorize two men or two women to be married. That's not what the Bible's talking about. So the attack on the family, the attack on parental authority, broken lives, broken marriages. I mean, the divorce rate in America is unbelievable. A lot of our celebrities have been married several times. children with no fathers present, the attack on nationalism with the shift to international independence. It's all going on in America today. Every divine institution, these four, volition, marriage, family, nationalism, every one of those relates to the human race in general, not just for me and you, not just for Christians. I mean, the believer is always given higher standards, yes. But these four divine institutions are for people in general. So the human race can be preserved. That's why we have the four divine institutions. God created the perfect woman and ordained marriage. One male, one female joined together in holy matrimony. And that divine institution is a monogamous status quo and the authority is the man. The family is composed of the family and children and the ultimate authority is the man. But the woman is included as a parent. So all mandates for the family are directed towards the man. He has to take responsibility. He has to step up to the plate. He has to do what he's supposed to do as a father. And that's why we read that passage in Ephesians. Fathers, do not provoke your children to wrath. But if we back up, it said, children, obey your parents in the Lord. And this is interesting. We were told your parents and children, in one case, the Bible puts them together. In another case, it says, honor your father and your mother. What does that mean? Well, sometimes parents get divorced. It happens. and then the bible says as long as a child is under the roof he is to be obedient to the authority of the parents and the parents have to teach that and when the parents get older sometimes they even divorce the child still has to honor the father and the mother they're not put together in that verse they're separated So there's no way that you are ever to have any anger or resentfulness or bad attitude toward a parent that got divorced. That's that's that bitterness would root you out and destroy you. I could be bitter about my situation. I never met my father my whole life. I don't even know who he is to tell you the truth. But if I met him, I wouldn't bust him in the mouth. I'd say, yes, sir, no, sir, good to meet you, sir. That's respect for authority, not because of the person that he is, but because of the ordained way God set it up in the human race. All mandates are there. The national entity, America, is people living within boundaries. with a common language separating one unit from another unit so that one group would not overrun and destroy the other group or create some system of tyranny in the country. So this is the way God set it up. It's wonderful when you understand this, when you can understand these divine institutions, then you can make decisions based on God's word, decisions based on truth because you've been instructed. Remember, go back to Proverbs 5.23, he will die from lack of instruction. And that's what the Bible says, Jeremiah 17.5, cursed is the man that trusteth in man and makes flesh his arm and whose heart departs from the Lord. Where do you get your answers? From the word of God. That's what we do here. We give you the word of God. We don't try to manipulate you. We don't try to corner you. We try to give you truth and let you decide. It starts with your number one important decision. which is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. If you've never done that, you must. You must accept Christ as your Savior. God made that provision for you. And you can do that here today simply by bowing your head and praying. Because the Bible says, whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. So in the privacy of your car, your home, you can simply ask God the Father to save you. You can tell him you're believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and you're willing to accept him as your Savior, and that's simple. You don't have to join up, fess up, give up. You just have to believe. Believe, the Bible says, in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. Let us hear from you. We enjoy getting notes and letters from you. Anytime, we always try to get back with you and respond to that. Thank you for listening today. We'll be back next week, same time, same place, with some different information. But I'm so glad you stuck around. So until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Join Mike Gallagher as he embarks on a profound journey through the heart of Jerusalem. In this special episode, Mike explores the dynamic tensions surrounding the IDF strikes in Gaza amid recent ceasefire violations by Hamas. As the complex political landscape unfolds, he delves into the challenges of negotiating peace with an unyielding adversary and speaks with experts to understand the intricacies of these negotiations.
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This is a special edition of the Mike Gallagher Show as Mike returns to Israel on behalf of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And now from Jerusalem, here's Mike Gallagher.
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It is such a blessing to be able to travel to the Holy Land and spend time in Jerusalem. We'll be here the rest of the week thanks to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. It's a remarkable place to visit. It's a little odd for all the times that we've been able to come over here. This is the first time that I can feel sort of a tension here. Of course, the IDF has launched strikes in Gaza following a series of ceasefire violations by Hamas. Marco Rubio has described the actions by Israel as completely self-defense. And, look, people are on edge here. There isn't a question that people have a concern about what comes next. How do you negotiate this? with Hamas? How do you work with terrorists who are committed to the utter destruction of the people of Israel? So here's the way Fox News Channel's Trey Yinks reported on the order by Prime Minister Netanyahu to conduct powerful strikes on Gaza. This is cut number one. This is courtesy of Fox News.
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The Israeli military is carrying out a series of airstrikes inside Gaza after Hamas attacked Israeli soldiers near the city of Rafah. A military official telling Fox News that Hamas violated the ceasefire by shooting at troops beyond the yellow line in an area controlled by Israel. Following that incident, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held a high-level security consultation before ordering immediate and powerful strikes inside the Gaza Strip. Earlier this month, two Israeli soldiers were killed in southern Gaza during the first major violation by Hamas of the ceasefire agreement. Hamas was set to release the body of an additional hostage tonight, one of 13 that remain inside the enclave. The group's Al-Qassam Brigades released a statement last hour saying the transfer would not take place due to what they claim are Israeli violations to the agreement. Overnight, Hamas released the partial remains of an Israeli hostage whose body was already recovered after they promised to release new remains. This issue is a sticking point for phase one and could affect the implementation of the agreement.
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I got a panicked phone call from one of my sons last night, said, Dad, this was right before I went to bed, and getting adjusted to the six-hour time difference. It's normally a seven-hour time difference, but Israel has a daylight savings time, too, and we have one week to go before we do our daylight savings switchover, spring forward, fall behind. So when we go back next week, then it will be back to seven hours. But in any event, if it's 9 a.m. in Israel, America, it's 3 in the afternoon in Israel. So I'm in bed when you're up and everything else. But right before I went to bed last night, my son calls and says, Dad, you're never going to get out of there. You do know with your luck you're going to get stuck in Israel. And I said, Son, don't even kid around about that. Don't joke about that. That happened to Salem's own Scott Jennings. If you'll remember, when the war broke out, he was over here and he couldn't get out. And Scott told us on air, and you probably remember his harrowing account of explaining how he had to practically get on a donkey and go to Jordan and get spirited out of Jordan because Ben Gurion Airport was closed due to the war that is sort of on again, off again. So anyway, I hope. I trust I'll get out of here. I'm thrilled to be here today. Joey Hudson is with me, and we did some sightseeing a little bit. I wanted to go back to my favorite spot, which is the Garden of Gethsemane. I love that spot. The Church of the Holy Sepulcher, which is... considered to be the most holy place in all of Christianity, the spot where it is believed that Jesus was crucified. We went to the Garden Tomb, which is believed by many to be the place where Jesus was laid in the tomb before the rock was pushed back along a beautiful garden. And we also went to the Mount of Olives. So I'm going to share a lot of that. We did some stand-ups in those different locations. And over the next several days, I'll share some of the sights and sounds of our journey here to the Holy Land. But let's go back to the United States for just a moment. The Senate yesterday failed to reopen the federal government for the 13th time. The shutdown has hit the four-week mark. It failed in a 54 to 45 vote. Snap benefits are about to run out. Now, I've got dear friends in South Carolina who care for a senior. She's a beautiful woman who is a widow, a widow. She's alone, and she relies entirely on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits. It's everything for her. And Look, I've got friends who I know won't let her starve. They won't let her go hungry. But there are people in America who are going to go hungry. And the Democrats have absolutely no desire to prevent that pain and that suffering. And they're willing to admit it. I have to appreciate the transparency. I've got to acknowledge the honesty of what some of these Democrats are willing to say. I want to go back to Chris Coons, the senator from Delaware. You see him all the time. He always pops up on television. Back on October the 7th, This is cut number 11. Back on October the 7th, Senator Chris Coons was on CNN blaming the Republicans for the government shutdown.
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Between the Republican majority in the Senate, in the House, and the Republican in the White House, they control whether or not this government is open or closed, what threats they're making, the ways they're trying to impose as much pain as possible. This is a Republican shutdown.
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Okay, that was October 7th. Fast forward, oh, just a few short weeks. October 27th, cut number 10. Here is the same Senator Chris Coons.
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Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. Frankly, this is our only moment of leverage, and although a very unpleasant tool to use.
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Can you play that one more time? I want to make sure I'm hearing those words correctly. Again, this is on C-SPAN. This is Senator Chris Coons.
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Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. Frankly, this is our only moment of leverage, and although a very unpleasant tool to use.
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An unpleasant tool to use. Remember the other Democrat we played for you last week? Used the same word, leverage. They think this gives them leverage. Leverage to do what? They think people starving because their SNAP benefits are going to expire because of this government shutdown is giving them leverage. Now, number one, let's fully acknowledge the sheer monstrous kind of evil that you have to possess to in order to acknowledge this is your only hand to play, forcing the government to shut down, making people starve. And they're willing to say this is our leverage. They're absolutely comfortable acknowledging it. There's a headline over at Axios that says the Democrats might be getting cold feet. John Thune, the Senate Majority Leader, claims he has been told that several Democrats in the Senate are desperate to end the game of chicken that Chuck Schumer is playing with the shutdown. And it is a game of chicken. The only problem is the people suffering from the game of chicken are poor people who are going to lose their SNAP benefits, are hardworking air traffic controllers, members of the military, people in the federal... It's unbelievable that the Democrats are now owning this tactic. Can you help me understand what leverage you think this gives them? I got to turn to the smartest audience in the world. That's you. And we're in the Relief Factor studios on the road in Jerusalem in the Jewish News Syndicate studios, JNS. I hope you join me. 800-655-MIKE. You tell me what leverage the Democrats are attempting to achieve. 800-655-MIKE. I'm going to give a gold star to somebody who can give me an answer. Load my phone lines with your theory, with your suggestion, maybe with your knowledge as to what you think is the leverage the Democrats want to obtain by starving poor Americans. to death with this government shutdown. 800-655-MIKE, call or text. Join us here on the Mike Gallagher Show, a very special edition, live from Jerusalem. Your voice, your call, your perspective, coming up. Hey, I've got to tell you, Tritail's Premium Beef, my favorite meat delivery service in the world. They've got a deal right now that you can't miss. For the first 30 orders over $499, they're going to throw in a roast absolutely free. That's right, a centerpiece meal straight from their Texas ranch added to your order at no cost. Here's the thing. Once those 30 are gone, they're gone. No second chances, no rain checks. This is ranch life, not retail stores, not retail games. Don't wait. Gather your family, feed your table, feed your legacy. And if you're the kind of person who says, well, I'll get to it tomorrow, let me remind you, tomorrow's roast will be somebody else's. And Tritail's Premium Beef still has all my favorite cuts with the Gallagher Patriot Box. Just for you. Get one or two of those, add some of your favorites, and get yourself that free roast. Whether or not you get a free roast, you always get free shipping on all first orders and an automatic 10% off. Not a trick. It's a As this offer expires Halloween night, 1031 is the last day to get that free roast. Go right now to trybeef.com slash Gallagher. That's trybeef.com slash Gallagher. Trybeef.com slash Gallagher.
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This is a special edition of the Mike Gallagher Show as Mike returns to Israel on behalf of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And now from Jerusalem, here's Mike Gallagher.
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I often call myself the vice president of the Happy to Be Here Club. How could I not be thrilled to be sitting in this beautiful state-of-the-art studio in Jerusalem? It's called the Jewish News Syndicate, JNS.org. More on that organization in a bit. But once again, I get to return to the Holy Land. We totaled it up the other day. Eleven times I've been blessed to make a journey to the State of Israel. And there's nothing like it. I mean, this visit this week is every bit as special and spiritual as it was the first time I was here many years ago when I was a local host. On WABC Radio, Phil Boyce and I came over here and we interviewed Israeli soldiers and we interviewed Benjamin Netanyahu many, many years ago. And here we are again. And we're only here thanks to the blessings of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. This is an organization that you're very familiar with because, well, I talk about them all the time. You see Yael Eckstein on television. You see the messages on this. You hear the messages on this show. You watch them on Salem News Channel. And we thought it would be really special to end our October campaign with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews with me being in Jerusalem. So here we are. Today, tomorrow, and Friday, we're broadcasting live from the Holy Land. And we couldn't do it without... This lady and your organization, Yael Eckstein, president and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Welcome to the JNS Studios in Jerusalem. You've been here, I think, before.
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I've been here before. But each time I see you, and especially here in Jerusalem, I am just, this is the day that the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it.
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Amen. Amen. And I, look, I've got a very selfish personality. reason to have you here. I want to end our October campaign with an epic close. Our audience, and you know over the years, our audience is extremely generous. I want to talk a little bit about the ceasefire and about what the IFCJ is doing right now, how the fellowship is responding to the needs of people here in Israel. But all this month, we've been inviting our audience to please, please donate to this beautiful ministry. And that's what it is. It's a ministry of Christians and Jews getting together to provide desperately needed, life-saving materials, food, comfort, clothing, shelter to so many people. You know, through the month of October, many of you have donated $25, $50, $100, $200. Since these are the final three days of the campaign, Yael, before we get into some of the issues going on here in this complicated part of the world, can you tell our audience who might consider making a donation today what their money will go towards? If one makes a donation today to the fellowship, what will you do with that donation?
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Well, we look directly at the scriptures and we see what God tells us to do. He tells us to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to shelter the poor. So we have soup kitchens from northern Israel and Kiryat Shmona that was actually hit by a direct rocket attack. And within 24 hours, I was there and we found a new location. We're providing thousands of meals to the elderly who live on the border there, all the way down to Sderot on the border with the Gaza Strip and Eilat in southern Israel and the border with Egypt. that wherever you look in Israel, it's the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews are feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and sheltering the poor. And so whatever donation your listeners generously give, they're seeding into God's word. They're seeding in with their hands, not just praying for the peace of Jerusalem, but acting for the peace of Jerusalem. And bringing hope to the hopeless in this holy land that we know this is where the story begins. This is where the story ends. We know that Christians believe that they're grafted onto the rich olive tree of Israel, that through those donations of feeding the hungry, you're part of this land.
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You know, I'll see a TV commercial for the fellowship and you're over, you're in a kibbutz or you're in an area where there's an elderly woman. Yeah. And she's crying and she's got just just morsels. And then you walk in with these big boxes of supplies for her and she cries tears of joy. Look, those those messages just absolutely tell the story. And that's what our audience, the Mike Gallagher show audience can can do. You can provide these these. Beautiful gifts. And they get food. Talk a little bit about how about armored ambulances? How about the things that are really in need here in Israel that our audience can make a difference by?
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Well, Mike, what we've seen is that we have the ability to bless someone and give hope. And those videos that you're referring to, none of them are staged. None of them. I'm on the ground bringing food, and sometimes we'll have a camera to show people what they're doing here in Israel. Right. And unfortunately, especially now after two years of war, after so many people have been in reserve duty and in the army, so many people have lost loved ones, lost their businesses. I've never seen a time where we had more people calling for food help from elderly to families to children. Yeah. And so we're on the ground. As soon as we get a donation, we get to go out to a Holocaust survivor, go out to a widow from this war and say, there's a Christian in America, there's a Christian around the world who's not only praying for you, but is providing for you. And those are the tears of joy, Mike, because... So many of these people, they didn't know where their help would come from. I think of the words of Psalms, from where will my salvation come? My help comes from the maker of the heaven and the earth. And that's what these people feel like. It's God himself who's providing for them because those are the tears of joy. They look at me and say, how did you find me? How did Christians find me? I thought I was forgotten. I thought I was going to die here alone. And suddenly they have that comfort.
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Well, I'm going to call on the audience right now to provide and to create those tears of joy for these many, many people who benefit from the beautiful work of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Please go right now to mikeonline.com. You can make any size donation. You can afford $25, $50, $100, whatever you can spare. You're going to bless the people of Israel, and you're going to stand with Israel. And, you know, Dennis Prager and I, bless him. You know, we have spent many trips together bringing people over here to the Holy Land. We called them the Stand with Israel Tour. I'm asking you to stand with Israel today with your donation. Go to MikeOnline.com. It's easy to donate online. It just takes a couple of minutes. MikeOnline.com. Or you could phone in your gift to our special 800 number. It's 800-613-5511. And if you appreciate our broadcasts from the Holy Land, because this week I'm going to take you with me to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. I'm going to take you to the Mount of Olives. I'm going to take you to the Garden Tomb. I'm going to take you to these very holy places. We're not here without the support of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The fellowship is why we're here this week, and we are enormously grateful. Help us pay back our gratitude to the fellowship. Please go to mikeonline.com or call 800-613-5511. You can phone in your donation, 800-613-5511. or go to mikeonline.com and please give what you can to the fellowship. Now, Yael, let's talk a little bit about yesterday. A father, a husband killed. Bibi has ordered, Netanyahu has ordered strikes upon Gaza. This peace deal, while we're so joyful for President Trump's efforts, we're thankful for the world lifting up Israel. It's a fragile peace process. This is a fragile peace agreement. Tell us a little bit about who was killed yesterday, how the fellowship is helping post-peace agreement, and what all comes next for the state of Israel.
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Well, it was a 38-year-old father of five that was murdered yesterday, five young children who... now are orphaned because their father was protecting the borders of this land. And what we see is this is a war of those who sanctify life, Israel, Jews, Christians, against those who sanctify death, who worship death and seek death. And so it's hard to see how peace will come. And the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is on the ground helping the families of the orphans, helping the families of the hostages, helping those to say, you're not alone, we stand with you. And that's what we could do today, Mike, is we have to believe that peace is possible because God tells us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. He tells us that there will be a day where the lion will dwell with the lamb. And whatever we can do to help bring that day closer, I believe God is counting on us to do that. I was in Jerusalem, in the old city walls, and I saw a wedding. And all of a sudden, the words of Ezekiel came back to me. Once again, there'll be the sound of the bridegroom laughing and singing and celebrating in the walls of Jerusalem. And it was such a reminder, Mike, we have to bring biblical prophecy to fruition. God is calling us, which is why the fellowship brings the Jewish people home to Israel, even when there's war, because they want to escape persecution and anti-Semitism. They want to come home to Israel, whatever price they'll have to pay. That's why we're here to do all these things that God says we have to be doing because we can't wait with our righteous anger for peace to come. We have to take tangible steps to bring blessings. And then I believe God works through us.
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I had lunch yesterday with a father of a young woman who was engaged. to a young man who was killed on October 7th. And they had their whole lives ahead of them. He got teary-eyed, of course, because it was heartbreaking. She moved in with them after October 7th, after the Hamas massacre, to heal. And there was a happy ending to the story. She has just recently met somebody new, and she is actually preparing to marry and has gone through this horrific thing. And as I told him why we were here and I told him about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, he lit up and he said, Yael Eckstein, I mean, I forget, I always forget you're a big superstar over here as you are in the United States, but you are so well known here in Israel. The fellowship is so beloved here in Israel. And he told me that. He said there are so many people in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and all throughout the state of Israel who are so grateful for the fellowship and what you do for so many people, for so many seniors, for so many poor people. And look. I truly believe the Bible commands us. Those who bless Israel, he will bless. Those who curse Israel, he will curse. And so this is a great opportunity for you to have a little religion on a Wednesday here on the Mike Gallagher Show and support this tremendous organization, MikeOnline.com. Please go to MikeOnline.com. yael on a personal note you you bless me with your friendship and your support our show is so honored to partner with the fellowship i hope you know what it means to each of us individually our whole team eric and tracy and christian and joey and alex and all of us are we just get so invested in trying to do some good for people over here and it's working god is blessing the fellowship and god is blessing israel
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Well, the Mike Gallagher Show inspires so many people, and to be able to bring this vision of hope together is what I believe is the mission that we're called to do. So thank you for including us. Thank you for including the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews and making a difference to bring more light to this world.
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We appreciate your hospitality, as always. We're so honored to be here, and we'll be here for another few days. Thanks.
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I'm going to be following.
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Keep it up. Keep it up. Keep fighting the good fight. The great Yael Eckstein joining us here on the Mike Gallagher Show in the JNS studios. There's a lot more coming up here for a Wednesday. We've got lots of things to break down, including a report that evangelical Christians, speaking of spiritual matters, are starting to soften and break ranks with MAGA and President Trump. Do you believe it's true? That and more all ahead from Jerusalem. You ready to drop up to 20 pounds or more by the new year? Have you been struggling with belly fat forever? You know, the older you get, the harder it is to say goodbye to those unwanted pounds. PHD Weight Loss cracked the code. They have a metabolic reset system that's a science-backed way to get your body to burn fat first. Look, I've tried everything my whole life. I counted points. I counted calories. I did crazy starvation diets. Then I met Dr. Ashley Lucas, and I learned all about her brilliant program called PhD Weight Loss, the only program that guarantees your success and your results. If I can lose over 50 pounds and keep it off over a couple of years, you can too. Everybody can. When you call right now, they'll waive your consultation fee, you'll get two extra weeks free, and they'll cover the cost of your food during the program. Just for booking, you'll get Dr. Ashley's book, Five Steps to Reset the Scale. Hurry, call today, 864-644-1900, Ph.D. Weight Loss, 864-644-1900, or visit their website at myphdweightloss.com.
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This is a special edition of The Mike Gallagher Show, as Mike returns to Israel on behalf of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And now, from Jerusalem, here's Mike Gallagher.
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What an incredible blessing it is to get to broadcast from the Holy Land. We're in Jerusalem for our first day of a three-day broadcast. Thanks to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Coming up a little bit later this hour, we're going to visit with a journalist here at JNS, the Jewish News Syndicate. This is a really, really splendid organization of journalists, writers, podcasters, journalists Technical people, of course, we're in their beautiful state-of-the-art studios. Yuri's pushing the buttons. Go ahead, Yuri, show the wide shot. Show this beautiful studio right here in beautiful Jerusalem at the beautiful desk. See with the JNS logo and the window behind us where we can just look in the back and see the old city of Jerusalem. It is just a special, special time. And there's, of course, a lot of breaking news as President Trump is traversing the world, trying to bring peace to troubled parts of the world. The peace agreement here is very fragile. It's very tenuous. Hamas killed an IDF soldier, violating the ceasefire. Bibi Netanyahu promising to rain hellfire down on Gaza once again. I continue to wonder how in the world do you negotiate with an entity like Hamas? How do you negotiate with terrorists? How do you possibly try to reason with people, work with people who are committed to your destruction? So here's Richard Haass. This is over on MSNBC of all places. We don't often play clips from that particular network, but I want you to hear cut number and see cut number two, Richard Haass explaining the next, this chapter that's now unfolding here in Israel as Israel is saying, look, you violated the ceasefire Hamas. All bets are off.
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We've known that this was going to be not just a difficult endeavor, but maybe a near impossible endeavor.
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The definition is to define success ambitiously. Peace agreement between Israelis and Palestinians, near impossible. Long, long, long shot. That's the stuff of decades. Right now, we want to keep from going backwards. More modest goal, but still ambitious in the Middle East. No matter what you try to do in the Middle East, it's by definition ambitious. We want to keep the ceasefire from unraveling. We'd like to see things move forward. However, haltingly, this is one of the first tests, if not the first big test of the agreement.
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Yeah, that's the first test. Incidentally, he's described as the president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations. Here's cut three. He goes on to say that Hamas just doesn't want to play ball.
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It's clear that Hamas is not in full compliance with the agreement. I don't think they ever will be. For example, disarmament is a pipe dream. They're not going to do it. The real question is whether Israeli responses are proportional to what happened, whether they're constructive, whether they'll get you where you want to go. I have questions about it. So to me, the really interesting thing, Chris, is what is the reaction of Donald Trump? He's obviously in Asia. We've been talking about it. But does the United States... Lean on the Israelis to basically rein it in. We do not want to go back to what was there before the ceasefire. We don't want to see the fighting resume, the humanitarian crisis get rekindled and so forth. So I actually think this is an interesting moment for the Trump administration. They made a big investment in Middle East diplomacy. They had some initial return. It's now in jeopardy. Let's see what they're going to do.
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I'm fascinated by the parallels between President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu. Yesterday, I shared with you a lunch conversation I had with a man who lives here in Israel who feels about Netanyahu the way the Trump haters feel about Donald Trump. In fact, he almost sounded like he used some of the same familiar words. He used the same lingo, the language. Oh, the Bibi supporters are brainwashed. They won't change their mind about him. And this man has skin in the game. He's got loved ones who were killed on October 7th. I could tell he was shattered by the Hamas attack of October the 7th. He believes that Bibi Netanyahu is at fault. He said either he should have known it was coming, Or if he didn't know, he's incompetent. But he shouldn't continue to be the prime minister. And it's not just here in Israel. Now, by the way, compare that to lunch I had with a different Israeli today. Another person with lots of skin in the game. Loved ones, friends who he lost on October 7th. who shared with me his support for Benjamin Netanyahu. And he said to me, he agreed with me when I told him about the parallels between Trump derangement syndrome and BB derangement syndrome, if there is such a thing. And he said, look, there's a lot of people here, particularly on the left, who don't like Netanyahu. This is, as is often the case, a right-left paradigm. People on the right love Trump. People on the left hate Trump. People on the right support Benjamin Netanyahu. People on the left often do not. But it's not just people on the left. And in the United States, prominent conservatives, libertarians, sharp-elbowed, People have bombast. Steve Bannon, somebody who I really appreciate, and I follow him and, you know, watch the war room and pay close attention to what he has to say. He's a smart guy. And Steve Bannon has some very, very, very pointed beliefs about Benjamin Netanyahu and the current Israeli government. Here's cut four. This is Steve yesterday on Real America's Voice.
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You say Israeli derangement syndrome. It's not Israeli derangement syndrome. I certainly don't have it. What I have is the Greater Israel Project that was never done, no due diligence was done. The American people never signed off that. The Trump administration never signed off on that. That's a Netanyahu. We need regime change in Jerusalem, and we need it tonight, okay? Everything that comes out of Netanyahu's government is a stone-cold lie, okay?
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He believes that everything coming out of the Netanyahu government is a lie. He feels that Netanyahu has lied to President Trump. He feels the Israeli government has lied to America. He feels that Netanyahu's got to go. That it's inconceivable that Benjamin Netanyahu continues to remain the prime minister of Israel. So I want to get your... perspective on all of this. Tell me what you think of Netanyahu and the role that he has played. Tell me what you think about this fragile peace deal. I keep asking, how do you possibly negotiate with monsters? You know, I grew up remembering the Reagan doctrine. The Ronald Reagan doctrine is you can't negotiate with terrorists. The United States position used to be we don't negotiate with terrorists. I had somebody today tell me, somebody who lives and breathes Israeli culture, with Hamas, with the Palestinians, when you've got Iran and Jordan and you've got Turkey in the mix, you've got Turkey involved in this peace deal, and Turkey, not exactly fans of Israel. Israel doesn't really have much of a choice. when it comes down to whether or not to negotiate with terrorists. So what should the Israeli government do? And I also want to touch on the big picture question of whether or not support for Israel has waned in America. Do you believe that support for Netanyahu, support for Israel, even support for the Jewish people has waned? has subsided to some degree. We've seen the rank anti-Semitism in the streets of America from the angry left. We've seen the college campuses and the academics, the academia people, the academics, the people who are supposed to be the smart kids in the room who just have a bitter hatred for the Jews. But do you think this war between Hamas and Israel has caused the American people to be less supportive? Look, all this month we've been trying to support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. It's why we're here this week. They've sponsored our broadcast and they sponsor our show, and we do our best to raise money for this important organization. They are a ministry that is keeping people from starving to death here in Israel. And many, many Americans believe strongly in standing with Israel. Is that support waning? Are you starting to sort of second-guess? what Israel is doing with regards to this war with Hamas. It's very complicated. It's very difficult. There are no easy answers.
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Very special place. We're in Jerusalem, and I'm so grateful. I appreciate the text messages I've been getting and the comments I'm getting from people who are watching and listening from all over the country who are glad we're here. I got a call, a panic call from my son last night. Dad, have you heard about the ceasefire thing up in the air? Israel's bombing Gaza now because Hamas killed an IDF soldier. You're never going to get out of there. You're never going to get home. I told Yael Eckstein, I can think of worse places to be stranded. Our colleague Scott Jennings from the Salem Radio Network was stranded here. He was here right when the war broke out and couldn't get out. He had to get very creative in terms of using all kinds of mechanisms to get out of Israel. I think he wound up flying out of Jordan, if I'm not mistaken. Portions of our show sponsored in part by conservatives for lower health care costs. 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But we're back again. We were here months after the October 7th terror attacks, and now we get to be here again. And I wanted to share with you what it looked like, what Gethsemane looks like today. because it is believed that the olive trees that are still at the Garden of Gethsemane, where Jesus suffered, where Jesus was tormented, where Jesus spent time, this is the place, and it is still there today. It is believed that some of those olive trees are descendants of the same olive trees that were blooming when Jesus was there. Here was our visit earlier today to the Garden of Gethsemane. I have been blessed to visit the Holy Land on a number of occasions. In fact, we were totaling it up the other day. This is my 11th journey to Israel over the years. And so of all the many blessings that I get to receive for being your host this is at the top of filled with these ancient olive trees, some of which are believed to be descendants of olive trees that were here when Jesus suffered the night before his crucifixion. There are places all throughout Jerusalem like this that are still open to the public. Interestingly, the tourist factor isn't quite so big now. I've been here many times at the Garden of Gethsemane where it was pretty well packed with pilgrims, with tourists. with visitors from all over the world. This time, not so much. It's kind of a quiet time as there's uncertainty about the peace process and the agreement between Israel and Hamas is so fragile with Prime Minister Netanyahu threatening to have a massive military offensive into Gaza again as Hamas broke the ceasefire. So with all of the turmoil, with all of the tension, with all of the conflict, It's pretty remarkable to be able to come to a place like the Garden of Gethsemane and soak in the peace and the comfort and the knowledge that our Savior, who put everything on the line for us, who died for our sins, this is where he spent the night before his crucifixion. Did you hear what was in the background? Could you make it out? I wonder if sharp-eared listeners... Or sharp-eared viewers to Salem News Channel could pick out what was going on in the background. Text me if you heard it. I'm curious. Because I asked Joey, do you think that could be picked up on air? And Joey said, yeah, I think it can. And it is a reminder that this is a holy place for people of all faiths. It's not just... a holy place for Jews and for Christians. I wonder if you could hear what was in the background. Text me if you heard it. I'm curious. First person to correctly identify what was in the background when I filed that report, I'll send you a free MyPillow. 800-655-6453 is the text line. I'm just curious. I want to know if you heard that or not. And today, tomorrow, and Friday are our final three days of our October campaign to help the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. We want to end with a real big finish. This is a beautiful ministry that rushes food and supplies and items to starving Israelis, to elderly Israelis, people in need. Your gift today will be doubled in impact thanks to a generous fellowship supporter. But again, the final three days, today, tomorrow, and Friday, you can show the people of Israel that you're with them by supporting the fellowship. There's a banner at my homepage, mikeonline.com. If you go to mikeonline.com, you can make a secure online donation to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 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Oh, boy. I got a couple of really good ones today for you, including this one, which might be maybe one of my new favorites. I mean, I know that there's ways to want to get out of pain for your bill. You know, sometimes you got people dine and dash. So this woman, she is apparently a very well-known in the area cereal dine and dasher. So she orders her food, she eats it, and then runs away. She had a $27.55 meal. And she tried to dash. And, oof, golly, that's a pretty serious... Mugshot there. She tried to run away from it after. 54 years old. She was arrested in Silver Springs. It was a diner. Now, when they stopped her, she said, oh, my husband is M&M and he's going to pay the bill. That's what she said. Marin County Sheriff's Office.
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The peanut M&M?
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They responded to Daryl's Dog Gone Good Diner. Try to say that fast. Daryl's doggone good diner. And they called the police. There was a woman there. She was not wanting to pay her bill. She had done told the manager that her husband, Mr. Eminem, the rapper, was going to pay her bill. That's what she told him. She said that she said his name is also Marshall Mathers is what she said, you know, to make it really look like she's in the know, I guess. Make it real legit. She was sitting at the table because she was going to leave. And she said, no, my husband Eminem is going to pay the bill. And she apparently only had $10 in her pocket. Her bill was at $27.55. So, yeah, she had $27.55. She had ordered a soda, two entrees, and a chocolate milk. And she claimed that Eminem bought her dinner there at the diner before and that she expected him to do the same. These are her direct quotes. Because he has unlimited money, according to the report. The diner's manager confirmed that she did not pay the previous bill. She was arrested and taken to the jail at Marion County. She has been charged with defrauding an innkeeper. That's a thing. And she's still in there. She's still in jail as of right now. She's still in the jail. So don't try to use that. If you're at a diner, you know, you can't say that Eminem's your husband and you don't have to pay the bill, especially when you've been there before and you left. Welcome back. The chat's at Rumble. You can find the newsletter over at Substack, all that good stuff. So let's talk about drivers and people who are driving giant trucks who are not in the country illegally because that's what we're dealing with here. So again, why that alien spacecraft doesn't want to visit us because they're like, do you see their drivers? So a number of truck drivers are sounding the alarm about aliens. The insane amount of non-English speaking commercial drivers that are on the road. And they said it's, you know, when you think of the staggering number, it seems pretty terrifying. One of them described it as Mad Max on the highways. And we know that, you know, we've had a handful of accidents so far, some which have been fatal in which you have people who are not residents. They're not citizens of the United States, and yet they're able to get CDLs, which is completely against what they're supposed to be able to get for federal law. But, you know, California, Gavin Newsom, they're just handing them out like Halloween candy. I mean, apparently it's pretty easy to get your CDL in California. So there we have horrible accidents. We have multiple fatalities, innocent people, all because you have illegal aliens who are driving giant trucks who have really no idea how to drive giant trucks and they cannot understand our road signs. Case in point. This cut. 29 is a trucker who not only can he not speak English, but he also cannot read the traffic signs. This is insane. Look at this.
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What does that sign mean? What sign mean? Take this. What does this sign mean? Master enter. Master. With station. Okay, so if you see this sign, what do you do? Yeah, Trevor Green. Yeah, Trevor Green. Must. Number 35, what is this sign? Oh, two people. Maybe girl. Maybe woman. What does it mean? What does it mean? Yeah, what does that sign mean? Yeah, two people. Two people doing what? Walk. They're walking? Yeah, two people are walking.
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Could it be pedestrians? No, Cain, don't tell him. He has no idea even what it is. He has no clue what it is. Could it be pedestrians? Or could it be, I don't know. He doesn't know because he doesn't, he has no idea what this means. How in the world are you driving a giant truck, right? I mean, my husband won't even let me get a Dodge Demon because he says I'll wrap it around the tree. But these blinkers can go and they can just get a CDL out in California and drive a big old truck around and not even read the road signs. Who do you think is more dangerous out there? Illegal alien who can't read the road signs or speak English or Dana and a Dodge Demon? Shut up, Cain.
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I was going to answer the obvious one, clearly.
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The illegal aliens. Yes. That's exactly correct. That's the right way to answer it.
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Those vehicles are so heavy. I mean, you can't even brake in time for anything.
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Wouldn't you be terrified? Okay, just imagine this. Imagine you're going over to, like, Germany, the Autobahn, and you've got to drive a giant rig in Germany, and you can't speak German. You'd have no idea what the heck anything means besides Ashton. You don't know. Do you feel comfortable driving? I mean, where do people get the audacity to be like, oh, yeah, I can handle this. This is okay.
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Going to do it. I think they drive on the right side of the road or the left side of the road there. I don't know. I have no idea. Yeah, not every European country. That alone, even if I knew the signs, I'd still be like, eh, a little sketchy. I want some more practice before I get out there.
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I want to be able to read the road signs before I drive this giant multi-ton truck. But this is what California's doing. So I got an idea. If California could just go and get CDLs, why can't we all just go and give out CHLs? Saying. There we go. Right? Or CCLs. You got to get a CHL anyway there. Steve gives my favorite comment of the day. He says, in Slack, Steve said he's scared of normal, talented truck drivers. The normal, talented ones scare you?
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Have you ever been on the right lane and then they're in the left lane and you get in the blind spot and you're like, I don't know if I should speed up, slow down, freak out. I just panic. I feel it.
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I mean, one of my worst car accidents ever was because of a careless gigantic semi.
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And the scariest accident I've ever been in was on Interstate 55 going near South County in St. Louis, Missouri. And we got hit by a semi and we spun across three lanes of highway. Thankfully, we went towards the median and not off the ravine. But that was pretty scary. And I was in the front seat. Seatbelts saved my life. I would have been launched through the windshield.
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Yeah. And that dude was an American, could speak English and read signs the whole nine.
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Yeah. So I don't know. I still think, you know. if California is just going to be handing out licenses to people, then I think we should just be able to give CCLs out to everybody. Give them a concealed handgun license. If that's what California wants to do, and it affects all of us, they can give out licenses. They don't have any reciprocity with firearm licenses, but they can give out commercial driver's licenses like Halloween candy. So, okay, well, let's just go ahead and give out everybody in California a CCL. Two can play that game. Screw the laws. It's just going to be total chaos. Let's do it. I'm all for it. I'm done. I'm at that point. I mean, for crying out loud, I'm sincerely praying for a space rock to obliterate us. So this is nothing to me. Let's just do it. I'm so tired of this. This is but this is what what happens when state. This is why somebody's governor affects you. This is why a gubernatorial race in a state that's not yours affects you because they're giving out licenses to illegal drivers who are killing people on highways in your state. An illegal alien driver was driving a giant rig with an illegally begot CDL that California gave him in a complete conflict with federal law. And he killed people in Florida. You know, you have others kill people in Canada. I mean, come on. So if this is why these races are important, even though you don't live in that state, because this type of stuff happens. He doesn't have any room to lecture anybody on this stuff. Not anybody. And it just it's it's it's so frustrating. So, yeah, why can't we just go and give them what what what other stuff can they not do out there that we can do? I mean, like pretty much anything, really. I just, it just, it's infuriating. But there are these stories, all these truckers are saying that you would be shocked at the number of these drivers who come across other drivers and they're like, they're not proficient in English. They can't read our road signs. They can't, you know, nothing. In fact, one of the largest refrigerated trucking companies told the Washington Times that non-English speaking drivers regularly pull into their warehouses. And they said that they'll pull in, they'll pick something up. There'll be two, three truckers, two drivers in a truck. Two or three of them speak no English, not even a word. Maybe one speaks very bad, broken English and they still don't understand. They said, so obviously you can, you know, it's concerning because they're sharing roads with people. That's, you know. Now, Lorraine noted, too, the DMV was helping people cheat on their CDL tests. This was a CBS story. This is terrifying. Why can't they? If you're going to do something helpful in terms of people cheating and skirting the system, do it with taxes for crying out loud. New York prosecutors apparently arrested seven. Well, they arrested seven people this last time. The earlier sweep netted more because of cheating to acquire these licenses. You have to pass a written test, but what they were doing was selling grades at Garden City DMV in Nassau County. I mean, you could pay up to $3,000 for a woman to take the written test, and every time she went to take it, she would dress as somebody else. So she even wore a fake mustache, according to the DA in Nassau County. A fake mustache, even. So they're selling it. It's like how they sell DoorDash accounts. You know, you can go online, and there's all kinds of places online where you can buy, like, for instance, a DoorDash account. Somebody's selling it. Somebody went and created their account, applied to work for DoorDash, did all this stuff. And then they sell the account. Someone takes the account. They start working for it and they get the money for it. I stopped using DoorDash because one of the driver's names that I was supposed to have was named Amanda. And she just looked like, you know, regular white chick with brown hair. And the person who showed up at my door was definitely not a chick and definitely not little with brown hair, very large person who did not speak any English. And after that, I was like, I can't. I don't know who's coming to my house at DoorDash. That's kind of a problem. And they've been in a lot of trouble for it. They were getting blasted last week online for it. But they sell them. I mean, it's not difficult to find. So they're selling people to take driver's license tests too. They do that at a lot of these big factories. They have people that they hire that go in and they do an in-person interview with a potential employer. And then they leave, especially if you're doing a factory job. Then they send in a person who's here illegally and they perform that work. You can't do that with CDLs, though. Because you're driving a giant weapon, basically. Now imagine, I mean, what if, heaven forbid, it's something caustic? You know, what if it's something that, you know, it's flammable, it's caustic, something. You get someone that doesn't speak any English, can't read road signs or hell, what's worse? What if you just have a terrorist do it? I mean, if it's that easy to just get anybody and sell results for CDLs and just get you're giving everybody licenses. How is the national security on that front? That becomes a major national security issue. They're going to have to have Department of Transportation get involved in this. I mean, I know that they're looking at it, but they need to be out front and center on it because this is apparently a growing problem. Do you want to be on the road driving your little family on the highway with one of these people out there? 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So apparently a pregnant woman was this is a weird story. I don't know the because she didn't know how to look at a sonogram. She thought the image looked like her dog. And for whatever reason, people's like exclusive story on this one. This lady could not read sonograms and she said that her baby looked like her dog. And they did a whole story on this at People Magazine. And now we're all dumber for having seen it. Moving on. We talked about the lab monkeys already. The hurricane hunters. This is crazy. Who flew into the eye of Hurricane Melissa. You know, it's a cat five. They said that they had to turn back because the winds were so bad because of the turbulence. The U.S. Air Force Reserve's 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron, known as the Hurricane Hunters, they encountered heavier than normal turbulence when they were flying into the eye of Hurricane Melissa and they were forced to turn back. And we kept reading about the birds that were caught in the eye of it and they couldn't get through the wind wall. But yeah, I mean, it's a Cat 5. What did you... This is not a shocking thing. Scientists discover a key biological difference between psychopaths and normal people. I don't like this headline, Cain. They said that psychopaths have bigger brains.
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Slightly. In a certain area.
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that people are going to interpret that as immediately that these people are smarter or something and they're not that doesn't necessarily it's more room for crazy up there that's what that is that means that there's more room in there for crazy that's you know that's just saying but they said that they used magnetic uh risk magnetic imaging mris and they they found that the a region in the forebrain, there's a specific region in the forebrain that's about 10% larger in individuals with psychopathic traits compared to people who aren't psychos. And they said that it's the subcortical forebrain region. So it's involved in motivation, decision-making, reward processing, all that good stuff. And that's apparently the thing that's a little bit bigger. That's weird. Like, why does it get that way? That's the question that I have. And I don't know. I don't like that it infers that. Scientists are raising this. Why? They're growing human teeth in a lab. Now, maybe they're trying to replace, I don't know, dentures, but they're trying to figure out how to grow real biological teeth in the human jaw. So they've been growing teeth from human and mouse cells. So go ahead and book your next dentist appointment to go get your mouse teeth. Yeah, mouse teeth. That's also kind of a ban, right? Stick with us. It is the folks over at Kel-Tec, a Florida-born, Florida-based USA family, all of that company that makes some pretty neat firearms. And in fact, they have the Peacekeepers program that they're doing. It supports people who protect the communities, military, law enforcement, church security teams, school resource officers, faith-based teams, and SROs usually got small concealable pistols that they rely on, and it has a limited range. And so what they do is they provide long guns to help solve that problem. And they fold up compact for discrete carry and deploy in seconds with full rifle capability. The Peacekeepers participants also get mission-ready support. So you get extra platform testing, and you get armorer training and direct peacekeeper pricing for budget-conscious organizations. Now, it's already active, the program, and it's equipped over two dozen churches throughout the Faith-Based Security Network and every Brevard County school, a number of different schools. Rock Springs Police, they run KSG shotguns and sub-2Ks, 5.7s for SROs. Caltech proudly partners with the Faith-Based Security Network, and it gives people access to all the training, all the insight, everything. If you're interested in In participating in the new Peacekeepers program and getting that direct pricing as well, you can fill out the contact form at caltechweapons.com slash Dana. That's K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com slash Dana. So this was a guy named J.P. Sachs. And he was singing O Canada. He decided to modify the Canadian anthem's lyrics. And so instead of singing Our Home on Native Land, instead of singing Our Home and Native Land. Oh, wow. That's not how it goes. By the way, they stole their land from somebody who stole their land from somebody. So whose native land really is it? Yeah. How far back do you want to go? I hate this guy's haircut. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. Can I just, I don't know who JP Sachs is, but it sounds like a, just like a rip off of TJ Maxx. Like all the stuff that doesn't sell at TJ Maxx, it goes to JP Sachs. Hi, welcome into JP Sachs. Would you like a single sock? Wait, no. Wait, what? No, they don't match here. You know, that's at TJ Maxx if you want matching socks. No, here at JP Sachs, you get whatever the hell we get. Here it is right here. Just throw some socks in a box and you can pick out some matching pairs. There you go. JP Sachs. Right? That's what it sounds like. They said he's Grammy nominated. Steve, help me here. Who even is this?
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I mean this literally and metaphorically. I am today years old.
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And Steve is a DJ. You don't know. He doesn't even know who this guy is. And he did the thing. You know what the thing is when they're singing? He's like, holds the mic. And he does like one of those like baby things that they used to do with NSYNC and Justin Timberlake back in the day. He's that guy. What is the hair?
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Back in August, he had to embarrassingly admit that his Make Yourself at Home fall tour for 2025, he had to cancel due to poor ticket sales.
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Oh, he did? He did, did he? Oh, is that J.P. Sacks couldn't sell tickets? Yeah. Wow. He's a Canadian musician, so that might be why. Nobody knows who he is. But he changed the... I mean, nobody... And these were giant venues, by the way.
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It's not like these were 15,000-seat venues or anything like that. These were 2,000 to 3,000-seat venues.
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Oh. I mean, I think Kohl's Cash events get more people to come out than he... Oh, ooh. They do. He apparently said that he was trying to boost sales on TikTok and he couldn't do it. He goes, I aim too high, my bad. It's when you need to stick into the parking lots of like, you know, the sack and safe where tens of people can show up, you know.
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Sacks and safe.
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That's right. At least he was honest. He goes, due to unforeseen circumstances, the circumstance I didn't sell enough tickets because nobody likes you. Nothing says white knighting like literally a curly redheaded dude going out and saying and like changing the lyrics of the Canadian anthem because he's buying into the idiotic lie that all of the land that white people are on or that Americans and Europeans or whoever are on in the United States was taken from natives. Just when I hear, sorry, no, I'm not. By the way, Dana Lash, welcome. Top of the third hour. Good to be with you. The chat's at rumble. Don't hold it against them. But it's this. idea that is always promoted from the Marxist left that Native Americans, like American Indians, they knew no violence. There was no violence in American Indians. They lived like snow white creatures. They got along with nature. You know? That's why that one commercial featured that one guy who was an Italian playing an American Indian who had a single tear because somebody threw trash on the road. Remember that PSA? Yeah. But they act like there was no violence, no fighting that, you know, American Indians didn't even know what that was because they were so stupid. Apparently, that's like, isn't that the the the intimation that when they push this narrative, they did no violence. They knew nothing until the evil Europeans came and they brought with them all their sin. And their disease, those cinny mixinners. And they just brought all that stuff and infected these peaceful Native Americans. Yeah, Steve asks if we can play the audio again. Yes, Steve, we can. Go ahead. Go ahead. Why not? Let's just hear his whole baby voice. So it's supposed to be our home and? Yeah. native land and he said um sound like cartman dude diaphragm use it that's what his voice sounds like kane i'm not wrong right i'm not being unintentionally mean although that's why you listen just being accurate it's accurate who is this guy canadians canadian that's why no sorry i like our canadian listeners i'm not i i do not use him as a measure of you you guys know this But yeah, he promotes this super red-headed, curly-headed dude. He's white knighting. Just take that vocal tone all the way up in your nose. That's how it sounds best. Says nobody ever. Maybe he doesn't sound too smart in addition to doesn't sound too talented either.
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Isn't all land on earth native land? I mean, when you think about it. I mean, come on.
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It's like when people get mad about lead. It's like it comes from the earth. Oil comes from the earth. So this was at the L.A. game, the game in L.A. last night. And wasn't it? Yeah, this is he. They had a banger of a banger of a day. OK, can we what? Why is Major League Baseball? Why did I see 15 tweets from the Dodgers and Major League Baseball about? Oh, look. Whoa. Royalties here. Whoa. We got royalty, guys. And I'm like, this is America. The hell are you talking about? So I I kept seeing this pop up. And you know what they're talking about, right? They're talking about that D-list suitcase girl from the game show and her whining, my eyes are too close together, ginger, spare husband. And Major League Baseball said royalty in the front row, eyes emoji. What? I'm like, they're not royal. technically they're not didn't they i don't know how i know this but they dropped the hrh so technically and they and they're this is america we don't care they're so contrived and so over the top pretentious my favorite thing in the world that i saw i saw all of this all over social media was when she was at paris she never been to a fashion show before and she went to paris fashion week and she was walking out of every hotel like she was zoolander Like this was her moment to shine in my oversized Balenciaga white trash bag. I just can't get it. But they both just bought those hats. And they sat there at the game. He doesn't know what the hell is going on. He doesn't know. His past activities include dressing up as a Nazi and passing out drinking on a pool table. He doesn't know. And so they're... They're watching this game and Major League, why the MLB account, the official account would not stop tweeting about it. And then the Dodgers were like, hey, we got royalty here. Prince Harry. And Meghan Markle. I'm sure that they arrive at Dodger Stadium. Now, for the people who are like, why do we even talk about these two? A, because it's hysterical. I've never seen anybody try so hard to be famous in my life, except for some people in political circles. That said, I also think that this is a Rorschach test. They're kind of a Rorschach test. Do you believe in the tradition of like courtesy and family loyalty and not being beastly to people or do you not? I think it's very much like that. But I don't know why. I mean, I saw like a million tweets about this from Dodgers and MLB. Did they have like a deal or something? I mean, aren't these the people who are like, we want our privacy. Don't look at us. We want our privacy. And then everything that they do is like, look at us. If you don't look at us, you're racist. Something like that. I don't know. The only Royals are for Kansas City, and they're not very good. Oh! Oh, no.
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That was STL right there.
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Oh, no. What?
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That was the STL in you.
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Oh, maybe. Is that why the Dodgers lost, though, because they were there? Oh, no. Why are you so mean?
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That royalty thing, you should have commented that instead of what you did. That's more clever.
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Yeah, I only just now thought of it, though. That should have been the tweet. Let's be real. Oh, and apparently they got booed. Toronto fans booed them. Yeah. Yeah, so, and they wore Dodger gear. Now think about this. Toronto's playing. Now this is how tone deaf they are. Aren't they supposed to be like, I don't even think they're representatives of the Commonwealth. Canada's part of the Commonwealth. And they were dressed in Dodgers gear. And they call themselves royal and they cling to their titles. I mean, I don't know. They cling to their titles like Swalwell clung to Fang Fang. I don't know. I mean, like, think of something. It's quite easy. You know? but maybe that's why they got booed. That's just completely tone deaf. I think that's tone deaf anyway. So I don't know. I don't know why. I mean, I'm not kidding. I saw like 15 tweet. I counted. There was like 15 tweets about them. Does anybody who cares? And oh, they were sitting next. They were sitting in front of Magic Johnson. And I cannot remember the other guy they were sitting in front of. And apparently everyone was like, how did they get seats? Because I guess they were given seats. How did they get seats in front of them? They were sitting in front of them. I don't I don't know how that works, but I just would think that you would maybe get more attention with actual athletes being in the front row instead of these like grifters who sell like blood clot jam and, you know, whatever else that they white label. I don't know. I just I just feel like they're so representative of the left. Think about it. He's like this whining loser who wanted an allowance from his dad. He wanted to get paid by the British public, but did not want to do any of the work. Literally, that's what it was. He wanted to get money from daddy. He's like 40. He's in his 40s for crying out loud. He wanted money from daddy, but he didn't want to work. And he wanted the British public to pay for his security, even though he didn't want to work. And then when they said, no, that seems to be egregious. Then he had a tantrum and then they went to America. And now he's our problem. I don't know that that that is so representative of the left, is it not? Like it's the same thing. Like he's no different than the people bitching and moaning about, you know, EBT. He is no different. They wanted all of these handouts from the British public. You know, when they came here, they were expecting. And that's when Trump's like, I'm not giving you nothing. They were expecting the American public to provide their security. They were expecting that in Canada when they were up like near Toronto. That's what they were. Not Toronto. When they were. Whose house were they staying at? Some Russian oligarchs house in Canada before they came here. I think that's why a lot of people have a very visceral reaction to these two, because they are a representative of the worst aspects of the left, wrapped up in two completely annoying grifters. It's just amazing.
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In this episode, Dana Lash expresses her frustration over the ongoing government shutdown, a debate that seems to be going nowhere. With voices from across the political spectrum, there is a common theme of fatigue and disbelief at the lack of progress. Dana delves into the concerns shared by many, debating why there seems to be little action despite dire predictions for those affected by the shutdown.
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God, kill me now if I have to sit here and talk about this shutdown anymore because I'm so tired of it. Still is. I it's this is guys. Guess what? They're still they still haven't they still haven't passed it. Guys, next new day. Guess what? They still haven't passed it. Guys, new day. Guess what? They still haven't passed it. And I'm tired of talking to lawmakers about it. We've got I mean, I'm just tired of it. I'm tired of I'm tired of the whole thing. It's just like we'll revisit when there's development. Because at this point, look, I appreciate that Republicans are holding out and they ought to. But, you know, I don't even know why this is a debate about anything anymore. Right? I'm not the only one who feels this way. I know you all do, too. Oh, yeah. You feel this way, too. I mean, I actually prefer the government being shut down. And I have people telling me, well, you just, I guess, don't care about poor people. What's it like to just, you know, not have to worry about it? I don't know. I grew up having to worry about it. What's it like being able to tell people that they get to fund your lifestyle? What's that like? That's the privilege I want to know. I want to have that kind of privilege. So this and that was Mike Johnson, by the way, the speaker of the House, who is going on about the latest with the shutdown. And he's fed up, too. We're all fed up. Everybody's fed up. I don't think there's there's there's nothing new there. So there's not. I mean, I'm like, yeah, guys, there's not really anything new I can tell you here with with regards to the shutdown. Happy whatever hell day this is. It's the same day every day. It's Wednesday.
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We're in day 29. It's not over, obviously, but this is day 29.
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Day 29. So welcome to the program. And Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this first hour to get into all of this. And again, speaking of Mandani, we had a really good story Lorraine had yesterday. over at Substack, and it gets into how he took all of this charitable money. I mean, my gosh, you guys are Marxists. Is anybody shocked? I feel like people are already decided on him. They're going to vote for him or not. I mean, there's just no other way around it. They're already decided on him. They've already decided there's nothing that Republicans are going to be able to do at all whatsoever to fix this. There's nothing that they're going to be able to do to get away. And I think, too, with the situation with Hakeem Jeffries, I think that Johnson was right on this. Let's play this. This is cut three. This is Schumer trying to push this back on Republicans. What's new?
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Where are the Republicans as people are losing their health care? and have huge pain and pits in their stomach about what to do about it, where kids are not getting fed, Trump's out of the country, House Republicans are out on vacation, Senate Republicans are out to lunch. And every day the shutdown drags on, the pain is deeper. So, it's time for Republicans to get serious about ending the shutdown.
SPEAKER 10 :
I want to jump off my roof. I seriously... Guys, can I not talk about the shutdown anymore unless something serious happens because I just... I just don't care. I really don't care because nothing's changing. It's the same damn spending. I love how people are like, we're getting a cut in spending. No, we're not. We're not getting a cut in spending. It's just a continuation of all the Biden stuff. There's nothing new. Let's stop. Why are you sitting over there like that? Is it just because I'm so jaded? I don't feel like I'm that jaded.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm with you. I think you're projecting that you don't care. It's just that you're so tired of non-action and that's where you are. You haven't lost the ability to care. You just are done with this non-action.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have. It killed it.
SPEAKER 07 :
It killed all your care.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know that space rock? Can we just talk about something that matters for a moment? Hold up. Can we talk about that? Because I got this. I'm taking this from the headlines because I would rather.
SPEAKER 07 :
There's more action there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dude, for real. So hold up for a second. You guys need to know this because when the little gray dudes start knocking on your windows and stuff, you're going to be like, why didn't we listen to Dana when she had this story? She told us all about this. I did. So the mystery alien spacecraft, it reaches Earth today. Please let it be an alien invasion. I need it to be an alien invasion. I'm actually very serious about this. I'm very serious about it. I want there to be an alien invasion because all this Marxist stuff has got me bored to death. We have been fighting it for generations. I'm done, right? I'm bored with the Marxist. Give me some aliens. That's what I want. I want some aliens. So the three, is it three I? Three I Atlas? Yes. It's been at the center of a lot of speculation. They thought it was a comet. It's not a comet. Now it's... The behavior has changed. It grew a tail. The behavior has changed. The appearance has been... It, like, modified its own appearance. It's really weird stuff. And there is a Harvard theoretical physicist, theoretically... Who's warning that it could be for months. This guy, Avi Loeb, has been saying that it's an extraterrestrial artifact and it could be about to make contact. Does it know what it's getting into? I mean, I've never met, you know, presumably if there are aliens on the space turd up there in the sky. Why would they want to come here? Why? Have you seen what happens? Have you seen what happens? We are a stupid species. We are. Golly, if I was an alien, I'd be like, it could be catching. We got to get out of here. Lock the doors right back to wherever the hell we came from in deep space. Now, yes, the guy is because because I brought this up like a couple of weeks ago and someone was like, oh, well, this someone who's, you know, apparently a social media expert on theoretical science. Whatever. Theoretical physicist. Physics. They were like, well, this guy, you know, he's got a lot of criticism for his theories, etc. I don't care. I want it to be real. I'm doing confirmation bias here. So I'm going to ignore all the stuff I don't like. And I'm only going to include the things that I do like. And so the comet, they said it has an anti-tail. I don't even know what that is. I just, you know, zoom in. I watch CSI. I know what you guys got. Zoom in. Granted, it might be fake. And I want to see an alien waving out of a window in that gigantic space turd in space.
SPEAKER 07 :
That window's rolled up, too, because they're getting close.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, I kind of hope it is. I hope it's like Red Dawn, but with aliens. Because I got a lot of stuff I want to use. You know what I mean? I'm like waiting for this. Red Dawn is like, you know, that's like a hopeful movie for me. You got an invasion. Golly, the stuff that I have to use. Oh, my gosh. It would be. Oh, my gosh. I would make any invading force on my property look like what the government did to Waco. There is no way. No way. No way. Just saying. So I'm more interested in the giant extraterrestrial turd in outer space. That's what I'm most interested in. Thoughts came. You agree.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, I mean, sure, it'd be exciting. But I think it also could be one gigantic, massive PSYOP as well. What? I mean, are you out there with some massive telescopes able to look at, you know?
SPEAKER 10 :
Why do you hate Joy? Joy? I mean, I hope it's a hostile alien space race that's just like, we're coming.
SPEAKER 07 :
There's only two Joys I hate, and they're both on TV.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that's because that name is a lie. So, let's just... So that's I'm that's what I'm most fascinated by is the giant space rock that is in outer space. That could be technically it could be. I don't know. I'm more interested in that. That that that makes the government shut down and everything else looks stupid because we're arguing over something Democrats have already passed. Right. Or or now just hear me out. I feel like this is a... This story, the first thing I saw... Who was it that... Was it Lorraine that put this in Slack? I don't even remember. It's been a long day. I can't remember if it was you putting this in Slack or what. But... Or, hear me out. Maybe if it's not space aliens, maybe it's like a rudimentary way to kick off bio-warfare by letting a monkey on the loose in the highway. Now... there were apparently the story What do they call them? Rhesus monkeys? Apparently, there was a rhesus monkey that had herpes, hepatitis, probably AIDS. I don't know. COVID, all the things. It ate GMOs. I don't know. And it got loose because a truck flipped over. And apparently, they all were running around everywhere. Yeah, it was an accident. Oh, and they had all the STDs. I mean, you name it, these things had it. These are the monkeys from Friends. Remember that show Friends? Ross had a little monkey that's this type. Well, I was really excited about this because I thought, wow, this is how walking dead starts. And we just need something a little bit extra right now in society. Now, sadly, sadly, these things, the driver lied about them all being infected. He lied. I feel like that guy should death penalty. Go, go to jail. Go right to jail because you got our hopes up. They said it was non-human primates. They were provided. They're sadly their little research monkeys. I don't like that. I mean, I'm not really a fan of rhesus monkeys. I don't even know if that's how you say it, but I'm not a fan of them.
SPEAKER 07 :
I thought it was rhesus monkeys. It's not like rhesus pieces? Like rhesus pieces? I think so, but I don't know.
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Well, I can't call them that because I really enjoy rhesus pieces and Halloween's coming up. That's kind of gross. I'm going to make that connection in my mind and I'll be unable to eat that treat anymore. That's something that can't happen. I'm just saying, I don't know. This is, I feel like we are all in an episodic series and we're about at, we're getting, we're building to the climax of the Earth's, the Earth show. Aliens are watching. So, I know, I know. Government shutdown. Food banks are preparing for a surge as federal food aid could be paused. I mean, also employment agencies could be preparing for a surge in applications. That's a thought. No, I'm going to go down to the food bank. I got to keep getting free stuff. There's only a small amount of people who actually need this. The rest of it. And as I've said yesterday, and I'm not relitigating it, all of this stuff is because it's abused to the nth degree. That's the reality of the situation. It is abused to the nth degree. So POTUS is he's in South Korea. He's meeting with Xi Jinping tonight at like it's 11 South Korean time, but it's 10 o'clock East. Yeah. 10 o'clock Eastern, I think. our central, our time. So he's meeting with Xi Jinping. They're apparently finalizing this prospective trade agreement with China. We'll have more on that. So we're going to get into all of that. Also coming up, we have Senator Eric Schmidt, who's going to be joining us later on in the show. And what is Christian Zionism? And why do people not know what it is? That's the question and the answer. We got all this and more. The folks over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the nation. And with Patriot Mobile, you're going to get a more affordable plan no matter what you have currently. It's going to be more affordable than what you have because Patriot Mobile, they're very smart. They're good stewards of their customers' money and they don't spend all of your money on CRT, DEI, gun control, etc., They don't funnel all your money into Democrat campaigns. Veterans and first responders receive 15% off their already super affordable Patriot mobile bill every month. But they also have – they make it so easy to switch. They have a 100% U.S.-based customer support team. So if you want to stay in your house, you want to stay at your work, whatever, you don't got to go to the store. They'll have you set up in minutes. You can keep your phone, keep your number, upgrade. It's entirely up to you. Super fast activation. And you have reliable nationwide coverage with access to all major U.S. networks. I've traveled around the world with them. I've never had an issue. This has been my cell phone service for over a decade. No joke. And you can switch today as well. They make it so easy. Get a free month of service using promo code Dana. So visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT to get started. and use promo code Dana to get a free month of service. That's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana, promo code Dana972Patriot.
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So South Korea gifted Trump. It's a it's an award, but it looks like a crown. It's made with gold and some jewels that they had apparently excavated from this like super old tomb. It's one of their highest honors. It was presented to him earlier. in South Korea where POTUS was meeting. They have the big event with Xi Jinping later on. He also got a grand order of magunghwa, which is their highest decoration. Sorry, that's the necklace. The necklace is the highest. And Juan's getting a photo of it. The crown is insane. It looks like, honestly, a bunch of knives on top of your head. That's the tallest crown I've ever seen. The necklace that you're looking at, if you're watching the simulcast, that is the Grand Order of the Mugunghwa. And that necklace is the highest award that they can give in South Korea. And you know what the left immediately did? Exactly. They were like, he literally just got a crown. See, no kings. That was so stupid. Oh, my heavens. Also, this apparently there is a new breakthrough treatment that destroys up to 90 percent of skin and colon cancer cells in just like 30 minutes. I mean, obviously, it's still experimental. It's UT in Austin. They're using infrared light and from LED bulbs at test tubes that contained blood. human skin cancer or the colon cells of healthy human skin cells. And they said that they also contained nanoscopic flakes of tin oxide, which were absorbed by those cells. And they found that when the light was fired at the cells, the nanoscopic flakes absorbed it, heated up, and then they turned into these little heaters that killed the cancer cells and caused the cancer cells in like the colon and skin cells to die. And it left the healthy cells mostly undamaged. And I want to know what mostly means. But they said after 30 minutes, it killed up to 90% of the skin cancer cells, 50% of the colon cancer cells. That's huge, huge, huge breakthrough. We got a lot more on the way. Don't go anywhere. Stick with us. So our skin changes in subtle ways over the years, especially after having kids. Maybe your hair and your nails and your skin don't seem as strong as you'd like for them to be, but there are smart ways to support them as you maneuver through the seasons of life. Bubz Naturals Collagen Peptides offer a very powerful solution to help restore health. to your skin and your nails, reverse the signs of aging, and support your body from within. So starting in your 20s, your body produces less collagen every year. And collagen is the protein that holds everything together. It's like the glue for the body. So with bubs, you can restore collagen levels to what your body had before when you were in your 20s. And that means stronger joints, healthier hair and nails, smoother skin, and faster recovery, especially after workouts. Bubz Naturals offers the cleanest, most effective collagen peptides made from grass-fed, pasture-raised cattle. And the powder is tasteless, it's odorless, and it dissolves instantly in your coffee, smoothie, juice, whatever you want to put it in. And it's third-party tested, NSF certified, Whole30 approved, and free of sugars or fillers. So for a limited time, get 20% off with code Dana at BubzNaturals.com. That's B-U-B-S Naturals dot com. Support the show and tell them that Dana sent you.
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Gosh, coming in with that track is absolutely... It's very apropos, because it's like 60 degrees in Texas today. It's like freezing. This is fire-building weather. What? It's freezing. Sorry, Kane. It's officially cold. What's the weather here today? Hold on. Oh, I lost it. It's 56 degrees. I'm lying. It's not even 60. That's fire weather. That's fire weather. No, that was the Smiths. The Smiths, it's a mood right now for sure. So welcome back. The chat's at Rumble. You can find the newsletter over at Substack, all that good stuff. So let's talk about drivers and people who are driving giant trucks who are not in the country illegally because that's what we're dealing with here. So again, why that alien spacecraft doesn't want to visit us because they're like, do you see their drivers? So a number of truck drivers are sounding the alarm about aliens. The insane amount of non-English speaking commercial drivers that are on the road. And they said it's, you know, when you think of the staggering number, it seems pretty terrifying. One of them described it as Mad Max on the highways. And we know that we've had a handful of accidents so far, some which have been fatal, in which you have people who are not residents, they're not citizens of the United States, and yet they're able to get CDLs, which is completely against what they're supposed to be able to get for federal law. But California, Gavin Newsom, they're just handing them out like Halloween candy. I mean, apparently it's pretty easy to get your CDL in California. So we have horrible accidents. We have multiple fatalities, innocent people, all because you have illegal aliens who are driving giant trucks, who have really no idea how to drive giant trucks, and they cannot understand our road signs. Case in point, this cut, 29, is a trucker who not only can he not speak English, but he also cannot read the traffic signs. This is insane. Look at this.
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What does that sign mean? What sign mean? Change things. What does this sign mean? Master enter. Master. With station. Okay, so if you see this sign, what do you do? Yeah, Trevor Green. Yeah, Trevor Green. Number 35, what is this sign? Oh, two people, maybe girl, maybe woman. What does it mean? What does it mean? Yeah, what does that sign mean? Yeah, two people. Two people doing what? Walking. They're walking? Yeah, two people are walking.
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Could it be pedestrian?
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No, Kane, don't tell him. He has no idea even what it is. He has no clue what it is. Could it be pedestrians? Or could it be, I don't know. He doesn't know because he doesn't, he has no idea what this means. How in the world are you driving a giant truck, right? I mean, my husband won't even let me get a Dodge Demon because he says I'll wrap it around the tree. But these blinkers can go and they can just get a CDL out in California and drive a big old truck around and not even read the road signs. Who do you think is more dangerous out there? Illegal alien who can't read the road signs or speak English or Dana and a Dodge Demon? Shut up, Cain.
SPEAKER 07 :
I was going to answer the obvious one, clearly.
SPEAKER 10 :
The illegal alien.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's exactly correct. That's the right way to answer it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Those vehicles are so heavy. I mean, you can't even brake in time for anything.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wouldn't you be terrified? Okay, just imagine this. Imagine you're going over to, like, Germany. The Autobahn. And you've got to drive a giant rig in Germany. And you can't speak German. You'd have no idea what the heck anything means besides Ashton. You don't know. Do you feel comfortable driving? I mean, where do people get the audacity to be like, oh, yeah, I can handle this. This is okay.
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Right.
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Going to do it. I think they drive on the right side of the road or the left side of the road there. I don't know. I have no idea. Yeah, not every European country. That alone, even if I knew the signs, I'd still be like, eh, a little sketchy. I want some more practice before I get out there.
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I want to be able to read the road signs before I drive this giant multi-ton truck. But this is what California is doing. So I got an idea of California could just go and get CDLs. Why can't we all just go and get give out CHLs? Saying. Right. Or CCLs. You got to get a CHL anyway there. Steve is Steve is my favorite comment of the day. He says in Slack, Steve said he's scared of normal, talented truck drivers. The normal, talented ones scare you.
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Have you ever been on the right lane and then they're in the left lane and you get in the blind spot and you're like, I don't know if I should speed up, slow down, freak out. I just panic.
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I feel it. I mean, one of my worst car accidents ever was because of a careless gigantic semi.
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The scariest accident I've ever been in was on Interstate 55 going near South County in St. Louis, Missouri. And we got hit by a semi. And we spun across three lanes of highway. Thankfully, we went towards the median and not off the ravine. But that was pretty scary. And I was in the front seat. Seatbelts saved my life. I would have been launched through the windshield.
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Yeah, and that dude was an American, could speak English and read signs the whole nine.
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Yeah. So, I don't know. I still think, you know... if California is just going to be handing out licenses to people, then I think we should just be able to give CCLs out to everybody. Give them a concealed handgun license. If that's what California wants to do, and it affects all of us, they can give out license. They don't have any reciprocity with firearm licenses, but they can give out commercial driver's license like Halloween candy. So, okay, well, let's just go ahead and give out everybody in California CCL. Two can play that game. Screw the laws. It's just going to be total chaos. Let's do it. I'm all for it. I'm done. I'm at that point. I mean, for crying out loud, I'm sincerely praying for a space rock to obliterate us. So this is nothing to me. Let's just do it. I'm so tired of this. This is but this is what what happens when state. This is why somebody's governor affects you. This is why a gubernatorial race in a state that's not yours affects you because they're giving out licenses to illegal drivers who are killing people on highways in your state. An illegal alien driver was driving a giant rig with an illegally begot CDL that California gave him in a complete conflict with federal law. And he killed people in Florida. You know, you have others kill people in Canada. I mean, come on. So if this is why these races are important, even though you don't live in that state, because this type of stuff happens. He doesn't have any room to lecture anybody on this stuff. Not anybody. And it just it's it's it's so frustrating. So, yeah, why can't we just go and give them what what what other stuff can they not do out there that we can do? I mean, like pretty much anything, really. I just it just it's infuriating. But there are these stories. All these truckers are saying that you would be shocked at the number of these drivers who come across other drivers. And they're like, they're not proficient in English. They can't read our road signs. They can't, you know, nothing. In fact, one of the largest refrigerated trucking companies told the Washington Times that non-English speaking drivers regularly pull into their warehouses. And they said that they'll pull in, they'll pick something up. There'll be two, three truckers, two drivers in a truck. Two or three of them speak no English, not even a word. Maybe one speaks very bad, broken English and they still don't understand. They said, so obviously you can, you know, it's concerning because they're sharing roads with people. That's, you know. Now, Lorraine noted, too, the DMV was helping people cheat on their CDL tests. This was a CBS story. This is terrifying. Why can't they? If you're going to do something helpful in terms of people cheating and skirting the system, do it with taxes for crying out loud. New York prosecutors apparently arrested seven. Well, they arrested seven people this last time. The earlier sweep netted more because of cheating to acquire these licenses. You have to pass a written test, but what they were doing was selling grades at Garden City DMV in Nassau County. I mean, you could pay up to $3,000 for a woman to take the written test, and every time she went to take it, she would dress as somebody else. So she even wore a fake mustache, according to the DA in Nassau County. A fake mustache, even. So they're selling it. It's like how they sell DoorDash accounts. You know, you can go online, and there's all kinds of places online where you can buy, like, for instance, a DoorDash account. Somebody's selling it. Somebody went and created their account, applied to work for DoorDash, did all this stuff. And then they sell the account. Someone takes the account. They start working for it and they get the money for it. I stopped using DoorDash because one of the driver's names that I was supposed to have was named Amanda. And she just looked like, you know, regular white chick with brown hair. And the person who showed up at my door was definitely not a chick and definitely not little with brown hair, very large person who did not speak any English. And after that, I was like, I can't. I don't know who's coming to my house at DoorDash. That's kind of a problem. And they've been in a lot of trouble for it. They were getting blasted last week online for it. But they sell them. I mean, it's not difficult to find. So they're selling people to take driver's license tests too. They do that at a lot of these big factories. They have people that they hire that go in and they do an in-person interview with a potential employer. And then they leave, especially if you're doing a factory job. Then they send in a person who's here illegally and they perform that work. You can't do that with CDLs, though. Because you're driving a giant weapon, basically. Now imagine, I mean, what if, heaven forbid, it's something caustic? You know, what if it's something that, you know, it's flammable, it's caustic, something. You get someone that doesn't speak any English, can't read road signs or hell, what's worse? What if you just have a terrorist do it? I mean, if it's that easy to just get anybody and sell results for CDLs and just get you're giving everybody licenses. How is the national security on that front? That becomes a major national security issue. They're going to have to have Department of Transportation get involved in this. I mean, I know that they're looking at it, but they need to be out front and center on it because this is apparently a growing problem. Do you want to be on the road driving your little family on the highway with one of these people out there? And then what happens? They hit you. There's not. It's just insane. It is our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. 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get the lowdown on the latest news with a side of laughs whenever you want subscribe to the dana show podcast on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcast like sands through the hourglass so are the days of the united states stories but i would say to you that on the the the the food stamp issue the money is there let us not let them get away with saying that they can't do it. Their political will isn't there to feed the people who rely on the SNAP program, which is the most effective anti-hunger program in the United States of America. They're playing fast and loose with people eating. Can you imagine that? But that's the reality, and you need to talk about that.
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I mean, I didn't know Perry Farrell got into spoken word. Did I miss that? Is this like a new? Yeah. Like what? What kind of Jane's Addiction track is this? You know, when she wants something and she don't want to pay for it, she walks right through the door. Anyway, it's Rosa DeLauro, who I've never seen her in the same room as Perry Farrell, I'm just saying. And there's a reason why that is. And the most obvious explanation is that they're the same person. There's no other explanation. It's the same person. That's it. So... realize again that the only reason none of this stuff has happened is because Democrats are hell bent on extending Obamacare to illegal aliens. That's what all of this is about. All of it's about. They don't care if you go hungry. They don't care about your family. They wouldn't know. They wouldn't know you if they fell over you in their living room. They have they don't know and they don't care. They have a problem with object permanence. You know how babies have this issue up until. Oh, I don't know. They have the same problem. They just never get over it. They never ever get over it. And that's how she is. She just has not. She just thinks that, oh, the money is there. It's actually not there. I mean, you're talking about billions of dollars a month. And she says it's the most effective. What did she say? The most effective anti-hunger. Like, what is even that? First off, I mean, I guess if I want to judge it off of all of the videos of the morbidly obese people who are raging on TikTok about, you know, it's like that skit with... Chris Farrell and he's saying or Chris Farley and he's saying, you know, I'm hungry when he was at the mall with Adam Sandler. I mean, that's the only I don't know when you say it's the most effective anti-hunger campaign. I'm thinking, well, I mean, I guess if I'm judging by the morbidly obese videos on TikTok, then I guess you could say that. But it's also ballooned and you have 42 million people in the United States that are getting food stamps, which is insane. These are not 42 million people that are disabled and can't work. That's not 42 that they're not all 42 million people. who can't go and get jobs because of some sort of physical or mental disability. A lot of it are people who are in this country illegally. That's number one. And then number two, people who just don't want to work. And then a small portion, I believe, are people who, for whatever reason, they are physically or mentally legitimately unable to. But the problem is that our tax structure and our punitive economic system makes it to where it's difficult for private citizens to fill that gap and stand in, and the government exploits that inability as an excuse or justification for further expansion. And then guess who doesn't get helped again? The people that they claim that they are expanding government to help. Never happens. They just want to make people easy enough in being dependent on the government instead of empowering them to be independent from the government. And that's what we're dealing with here. 42 million people on food stamps is one of the craziest damn things I've ever heard in my life. That's 11% of the population. 11% of the population on food stamps. That is 11%. Now, how many of them are people who are here illegally? Exactly. I'm very curious about that. But how many of them are just people who don't want to work? I see all these people like, oh, I want to go to war. I'm going to go to war for my food stamps. If you can't even go and get a job, you're not going to be able to go and prosecute a war. Sit down. Tons of fun. It ain't happening for you. Good night. Now, some of the other stuff coming up, the argument over Christian Zionism. Yay. I know that's one thing that we all wanted to argue about on a happy Wednesday, isn't it? 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And you can watch the simulcast of the radio program on Channel 347 DirecTV. So... We've been talking about a number of things, the illegal immigrant truck drivers. We've got Senator Eric Schmidt, by the way, coming up at the bottom of the hour. A number of issues. So one quick thing, and I have a post coming up about this that will be out there probably later today. So I can't believe I did this, but I was researching for crime stats, right, for the debate that I have coming up next week. And sometimes I'll passively listen to things, like maybe I'll turn C-span on or something of that nature. But I put that... I was listening to the Tucker Carlson interview with that – I don't even want to say that guy's name. We mentioned this a little bit yesterday. I watched the whole thing. And I just – I still – the reason I listened to it is I was kind of mystified as to what Carlson – and full disclosure, Tucker and I are friends. Like I said yesterday, we're not best friends, but we talk and I messaged him yesterday – But I don't know what he would find enlightening about this like moderately intelligent disciple of identity politics that has zero life experience beyond self-promoting stunts. Right. The guy that he interviewed was a podcast host and he promotes legitimately textbook anti-Semitic theories. He's repeatedly praised Hitler. He's denied the Holocaust. He practices identity politics and he hates Charlie Kirk with the burning passion of a thousand suns. But he's a part of this like very vocally growing fringe that claims to be on the right, but they share too many commonalities with the left for that claim to be taken seriously. So like in the beginning, you know, I was watching this interview and the guy's last name is Fuentes. He calls himself a Christian. He began by stating his admiration for Stalin, which, you know, he was a notorious atheist who brutally enforced godlessness and at the state level. I mean, they had policies on promoting atheism and eradicating the church. And he murdered millions. And what's more beyond that, what I thought Fuentes did was he demonstrated a complete ignorance as it pertains to a cornerstone of our republic, which is E Pluribus Unum. And he received no pushback whatsoever. And that's what I was questioning, one of the things I was questioning. He had said that because of mass immigration, mass and a lot of the immigration, just so you know, and it's important to establish this, that you see happening in Europe has been because of EU policies. and they allowed unfettered immigration. I mean, let's just, it's illegal immigration. If you're coming into a country and you're not going through the proper procedure to let the country know who you are when you enter their country, this is illegal immigration. And he was saying that there were countries in Europe that were losing their identities because of unfettered, mostly illegal immigration. And I don't think that that's incorrect. But the problem is, is that Those countries are not the United States. And he was making the argument that, well, the United States is going to lose its culture because of unfettered immigration. And I'm like, that's not the right way to say that the United States will lose freedom. But if you're acting like the United States is like this white ethno Christian state, this white ethno state, it was never really designed that way to be an ethno state or religious. I mean, it's and we'll get to that in a second. But the issue is that those countries that were being used as examples are are not the United States. I mean, you can't go to France and be French any more than you can go to Italy and be Italian. Europe is quilted together by all of these various nations that are built on centuries of their own respective homogenized culture with individual languages and individual practices and individual customs, etc. The United States was not. The United States has one commonality that is shared by its citizenry, and that is the desire to be free. And the founders chose our national motto, E Pluribus Unum, which not only was to represent the 13 colonies, but also the various inhabitants therein that all were creating our republic, the inhabitants. Now, think about this. At the time, a lot of people coming over to the United States, a lot of people in the colonies were not Native Americans. They were European immigrants. And the only common thread between all of them was the desire to be free. And it was that desire that created that shared culture. It created that shared culture. That's the culture is freedom. It's a culture of freedom. And so they didn't mandate a national religion. And that's something that's actually evidenced by Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist, who wrote him very eager to cement their denomination as the national faith practice, only for Jefferson to disappoint them in reply. But they didn't mandate a national religion, only denomination. That whether or not you believed in God, you were given a free nation, a free nation in which control of your rights were placed under the dominion of the divine, right? So that they were far out of the reach and perversion of man. That's the difference between natural and civil rights. By the way, civil rights are created by men in a courtroom for men. Natural rights, these are rights that come to you from God. That's what I commonly refer to, you know, those within our Bill of Rights. So the U.S., like I said, was not designed to be this ethno state, but a free one. And the freedom is the shared belief and the defining culture, right? Assimilation to this freedom, right? not rejection of it, is the requirement. That's the requirement. Anything short of that, anything short, fails the expectations that are set out by our founders. And not just in the debate over our founding documents, but this is evidenced in the countless letters that they wrote each other and the debates that they had during the Constitutional Convention. And so all of this, all of this is precedent. It's our history. And I would say, look, some of the founders, in fact, I think you can safely argue that might have been considered by today's conservative standards a bit progressive on immigration, on legal immigration. It might shock people. However, granted, the times were different and borders were not teeming with entrance, mostly illegal, like a couple of years ago. But this is the significant point, though. The difference is that they believed in a quarantine period of sorts. So they believed that people coming into the United States, kind of for the lack of a better way to describe it, should be quarantined before they're allowed to make or shape law in the country. In fact, during one of the debates for the Constitutional Convention, it was George Mason who had said that citizenship for three years was not enough to ensure that local knowledge that local knowledge needed, which ought to be possessed by a representative, someone who's doing and making law and creating law. And he's not wrong. You know, the only culture that is under threat by the rejection of assimilation when coming to this country is freedom. Now, there's a difference between opposing limitless immigration, legal or otherwise, and then insisting that the United States is a one-denomination-dominated ethnostate, just like there's a difference between believing that Israel is a strategic ally in the Middle East and then believing a theory, a biblical prophecy concerning end of days. And this was something else that came up. I know Tucker had said he was talking about Christian Zionism. Christian Zionism, I think that you can be a Christian without believing in Christian Zionism. And I think that it is a dispute over revelation. It's a dispute over some biblical doctrine. What gets me, though, is when someone says that they hate someone because they are a Christian Zionist and they feel that it is heretical. But I don't see how anybody could have more hatred for a Christian Zionist over a doctrinal dispute. than the literal Islamist terrorists that are colonizing the Middle East and killing people and slaughtering, rather, should I say, genociding Christians in Africa. That's what I don't understand. I mean, I I also kind of think, too, as it relates to Christian Zionism, it seems that those who are opposed to Israel conflate the two. And as a way to detract credibility from believing that Israel is a strategic ally by like by conflating it with Christian Zionism. Zionism. So I don't know. I the other thing, too. is this idea, and this was put out in this debate, this idea that somehow it is ungodly to blame all of Gaza for Hamas. So in some of the remarks that I was hearing, it seemed to be in reference to people who say that Gaza is lost or that it's cruel to have a harsh response to what happened on October 7th. But this is that weird area where geopolitics and feelings do not mix. Right. We've talked about this a million times before. So while it is true that not all of Gaza and Gazans are responsible for or as depraved as Hamas, it is absolutely unarguably true that the vast majority of Gazans overwhelmingly support voted for Hamas in 2007. These were elections that were monitored by a handful of international observers to ensure fairness. It's also true that the majority of Gazans, as well as Arabs in the West Bank, supported Hamas leading up to the 2021 elections. which is why the Palestinian authorities suspended the elections. And then they turned around and blamed it on Israel to obscure the reality that Hamas was well on its way, per numerous polls showing landslide support to taking over full control of the two territories. These are indisputable facts. And there are countless videos showing civilians numbering in the hundreds, if not thousands, spitting on the hostages that were brought back to Gaza, cheering beside Hamas as they showed off the corpses. And there are countless stories of freed living hostages detailing how they were kept in private homes of Gazans. So here's my thoughts on this. Elections have consequences. Supporting terrorism has consequences. Launching a genocidal terror attack against a sovereign entity has consequences. This is the reality of the world in which we live. And now some believe that mitigating future losses by harsh action now, albeit two decades late, is the only response left as everything else has unarguably failed. It's not genocidal, nor is it ungodly to acknowledge this development that has come by no one's hand but Hamas and those who empower them and continue to empower them. It seems like a sleight of hand to blame the victim for the transgressions of the repeat aggressor. I don't like this worship of identity politics guised in the veneer of statecraft that I see shallowly floated on the right. Christians aren't to make idols of race or creed. And I think it's weird to betray your opposition to identity politics by pushing against certain types of collectivism with your approved brand of collectivism. So I just remember I look at this. I think that Western Maine, you have two ways to go. You have a successful man who was happily married at the time of his murder, Charlie Kirk, who preached the gospel and reconciliation and also penalty and grace. Or you have a single late 20-something who was caught accidentally streaming gay porn during his own live stream. You decide. The folks over at Ammo Squared, they have you covered for all of your ammunition needs. It's a very worry-free, easy, simple solution. You're collecting ammo for the future and you avoid getting caught empty-handed. Everybody remembers panic buying of 2020. All the shelves were empty. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I feel like this requires a level of dedication that far exceeds anything randomly that I would be dedicated, you know, in terms of activities in my life. So in New York, a woman was arrested because she vandalized somebody's car with condiments. She has three first names, and I feel like she should be arrested for that alone. Chloe Sue Stacey. Chloe Sue, what'd you do? Chloe Sue, she got charged with criminal mischief in the second degree, Cain. What ended up happening is that Chloe Sue was covering this victim's vehicle in ketchup, mustard, mayonnaise, and eggs. And it was also all scratched up with a sharp object. Police say that the total damage amounted to more than $7,000. And they identified Chloe Sue as the culprit based on CCTV footage, Cain.
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She just had it in her middle console.
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How do you do $7,000 of damage to that?
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There's a lot of vinegar in the old ketchup and the mustard. So I imagine it did paint damage, all kinds of body damage.
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So it's like more body work. Yeah, and the scratches and all that. Wow, that's insane. Let's see. An employee is accused of stealing 47 vehicles from Avis budget car rental at New York airport. So basically of the, he stole 47 cars before they knew that he was stealing cars. Like the first time that a car went missing, you would think maybe the 10th time, the 20th time, the 30th time. No, 47 vehicles were stolen from an Avis budget site at an upstate New York airport. And then they were rented out around the region. And they're worth it's all worth more than a million dollars. It was the Syracuse Hancock International Airport between June and August. I'm just trying to figure out how someone can steal 47 cars from one spot and nobody knows. Like they didn't know. That also seems like criminal negligence on behalf of some of the people who were supposed to be watching for that. I don't know. Let's see. A seal bearing an ancient language was found in Jerusalem and it confirms the Bible story in the Old Testament. Interesting. We'll have more of this coming up. Senator Eric Schmidt from Missouri. Next, as we move, our partners that help bring you the program. It's the folks over at Preborn. Preborn is a great organization that introduces women to their babies via ultrasounds, and they save a lot of lives doing this. So with Preborn, they have these they're they they. go and they are in these neighborhoods that are dealing with, I mean, high rates of abortion. In fact, abortion, still the number one killer, leading cause of death globally. Here's the thing. Abortions, though, they don't go to brick-and-mortar Planned Parenthoods anymore. It's abortifacients, and that accounts for over 60% of all abortions anymore. Pre-born offers free ultrasound services, and when a mother hears their baby's heartbeat, studies have shown that that baby's chance at life doubles. And pre born has been doing this since 2007 has saved going nearly 400,000 babies. It's amazing $28. That's all it takes to provide a free ultrasound. And you if you want to donate in a big way, a tax deductible donation of 15,000 places a machine in a needy women's center. Think of how many lives that can be saved in the years to come from an ultrasound machine. So pick up your phone, dial pound 250 and say the word baby. It is so easy. That's pound 250. Say the word baby. You can also give securely at preborn.com slash Dana.
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Welcome back to the program. You can listen around the country and you can also check us out at the chats at Rumble. You can watch the simulcast of the radio show Channel 347 Direct TV. The stuff that's coming out of the Senate hearings is insane. This has been the Senate hearing on leftist violence. And I cannot tell you the number of videos that we have played over the course of. three four or five years now showing people that we know who are speaking on campus or somewhere and they are chased either into janitorial closets they are uh protested against to the point where buildings are set on fire trash cans are set on fire it is the leftist reaction to the presence of dissent to the presence of a challenge that's how it's interpreted And obviously, you know, we talked to Marsha Blackburn, Senator Marsha Blackburn, the other day. Obviously, it's all very well organized. It's all very well funded. And at some point, I hope that we we look into this funding of the destabilization of law and order in the United States, which which is what this is. Joining us now, Senator Eric Schmidt from my home state, the great state of Missouri, the show me state. And he has been there with the Senate Judiciary helping to lead these this hearing on left wing political violence. And he joins us now. Senator, it's a pleasure to have you. I got to ask you, what is so far? What is the most shocking thing that that you've realized during this hearing? As though anything could get more shocking in the videos we've seen over the last several years.
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Well, first of all, it's great to be with the pride of Jefferson County, Missouri, Dana Lash. Thank you. Jeffco. It's very proud of Dana. We all are. But honestly, there's a lot. And I know you've been playing a lot of the clips. I chair that committee. I thought it was so important. to try to get to the root of the issue here because a couple weeks ago we were in a hearing and I said, don't give me this both sides BS because if you look at what's actually happening, Dana, it's chilling. You've got, of course, just within the last year and a half, you've got the two attempts on President Trump's life You've got the Charlie Kirk assassination of broad daylight, shot him in the throat because of his political views, because of his religious views. And then in between, you've got a bunch of – whether it's these trans assassins or just sort of left-wing political violence. You kind of underscore all of that with some crazy polls. Like, for example – 25% of those self-described very liberal individuals are willing to tell a pollster that they believe that political violence is justified. Compare that to just 3% of very conservative individuals. That's 3% too many, but it's not the same thing. And then 55% of those on the left side of the political spectrum believe that it is at least somewhat justifiable to kill President Trump. So you have the actions. You also have the sentiment. And it's a very toxic brew here that I think we need to get out in front of. And if we're ever going to solve this, if we're ever going to be, you know, and I think we should be very clear, political violence, no, free speech, yes, in every circumstance. I think that's the North Star. But we've got to be honest. If we're going to get on the other side of this thing, we have to be honest about what's happening. And it is the left in this obsession that the ideas that they would never get through at the ballot box or in Congress, they're going to do by any means necessary. And it's one other takeaway. Take, for example, Antifa. This is not an ideology, as some have said. This is an organization. This is a group that's well financed domestically and internationally. They have safe houses across the country. In Portland, for example, they'll draw ICE agents out, try to kill ICE agents, try to maim ICE agents, and then they scuttle away into a safe house. So this is not like just some people showing up randomly and something happens. And so I've asked Secretary of State Rubio to declare them in foreign terrorist organization. We can get out the money and we can get out the connections.
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That's a great start. We're talking to Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt. To me, it looks like and I love I want to be able to to return to a point in our culture where we can have debate without people trying to redefine what you're saying is hate speech and then use violence as use their definition of hate speech as justification for their violence against it. But it feels like we're never going to get there because you have your colleagues who are Democrats in the Senate who are endorsing this AG candidate in Virginia who was fetishizing shooting his opponents in the head and watching their children die in their mother's arms. There has been zero strong condemnation of that. And it's I just don't know if we can get there, Senator, without, you know, your colleagues in the Senate saying, you know what, this is bad and we can't tolerate it anymore.
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Yeah, there can be no unity between good and evil. And what we have to do is defeat evil. And it starts with recognizing what the issue is. And yes, this AG candidate, I was an AG. You do not want to have people in that office that have that amount of power who fantasize about murdering kids because of their parents' political views. Okay? Like that's... nuts. But yet no Democrat has asked for him to step down. They're endorsing him because it's all about sort of raw power on the left. And the other thing I think that's true, Dana, for years now, we've been fed all these you know narratives like riots are the language of the unheard or you know america is a nation born of evil on stolen land so if you believe that like if you believe and if you believe by the way that donald trump's a threat to democracy he's hitler and everybody's a bunch of nazis walking around like you know you get to a place where some people can rationalize that there's some hero And we have to be very clear, like the language on the left here, I mean, people can say what they want to say, but the truth is that this is dangerous. Like this is, this is, they're creating a dynamic. And I think a lot of it has to do with they can't believe President Trump won. They can't believe half the country or more than half the country supports him. It's this 10-year run they've had that has fomented this violence. We've seen the violence escalate. They've tried to jail political opponents. This is like... What you see in the Soviet Union, this is like what you see in sort of cultural or Marxist societies where you're going to just do what you got to do to get your way. And America is supposed to stand opposed to that, where we believe in free speech, we believe in elections, and that's how you settle these disputes. But unfortunately, that's not where the left is right now. We just got to be clear about it.
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I think that's incredibly important as well. And I'm so glad that you said that because you know what it's like and you know the power that you have as attorney general. And that's that's the top cop in the state. And boy, oh, boy, I can't imagine anybody who says the stuff that Jay Jones does privately having that kind of power. So I'm so glad that you said that. We're talking to Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt, if you're just joining us, you know, and to your point, you know, we have this violence, this. It's like you have the street team in the streets, and that allows the people who are of that mindset and ideology in D.C., I think it allows them, it justifies in their minds the nefarious action. You know, I've been watching the Arctic Frost investigations, and honestly, this is like looking at... Stasi activity. I remember reading these testimonies from dissidents from East Germany, and they were talking about how the craziest things were happening to them, and they felt like they were being psychologically manipulated. They knew something was wrong, and they knew they were being watched and surveilled. And it doesn't sound... very different from what the arctic frost investigation is uncovering i mean senators being being i mean they're spying on you they're spying on republican senators this is the type of abuse of power this is where that violence in the streets it ends up turning into violence at the highest levels of government yeah and i think what we're learning and continue to learn
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is that the Democrats felt totally justified in all this, right? They have this January 6th committee and then it's basically the predicate for Jack Smith to get involved. Interestingly, three days after president Trump announces that he's going to run for president. They have this massive sweep with Arctic Frost. You had the Russiagate. I mean, if you want to do the timeline, it's not that hard. Basically, Trump decides to run. They hated the fact that he was running. Hillary Clinton needed a distraction from her email problems. They made up, literally made up this Russia connection issue, this Russiagate. It's then handed to the Steele dossier to intelligence folks. The FBI, you know, you had Comer, you had Brennan at the CIA. They laundered this to be real. Like, they knew it was false. But they used it as a predicate to spy on Trump when he was a candidate and then tried to sideline a presidency. They then, of course, with the run up to the 2020 election, they couldn't let him win again. So the FBI then does the pre-bunking of the Hunter Biden laptop with all the big tech companies. They knew that was real. And then Biden gets in three days later, they start this Arctic frost. They start censoring. They start working with social media companies to censor speech. Then they try to jail the political opponent after President Trump announces he's running. He was almost murdered. Like if you were like lay all that out, Dana, in like a novel or something, it would look like something from the Soviet Union in the 1980s. But it's here in America like. A few years ago. So I think the point of all this is we have to make sure this never happens in this country again. But that also requires people being held accountable. And when the Democrats accuse what's happening in DOJ to be weaponization, here's my response is we saw the weaponization of government unlike anything we've ever seen in the history of our country. That's one thing. Holding those people accountable for that, that's a different deal. And they ought to be held accountable.
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What does that look like? Does that look like maybe charges coming to fruition from these hearings and that recommendation being sent to the DOJ? How do we do that?
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Yeah, I mean, here's my perspective on it, I guess, as a former prosecutor. Some of these things, the statute of limitations has probably run, however, not on a conspiracy. So like if you're part of the conspiracy at mile marker one and you try to take an exit ramp or you leave government at mile marker five and then all of this stuff continues at mile marker 10, you're responsible for what happens at mile marker 10. And in my view, we're at mile marker 10. So all these people. So I think this is I think that's where you're going to potentially see indictments. I think Comer, Brennan, Clapper and other people, they better lawyer up because I think that stuff's coming and it should.
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I hope so. And it's not just because it's you know, I say that with some sort of spirit of vengeance. But what you were talking about accountability. I mean, we the only way to keep this from happening again is for there to be a strong deterrent.
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Danny, Dana, and here's the thing. If you compared this to Watergate, like on a side-by-side, Watergate is a blip.
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Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's like, it's not even comparable. And, you know, people went to jail there and a president resigned. Right now, what they did, because they convinced themselves, think about it. Barack Obama calls half the country bitter clingers. Hillary Clinton calls them basket of deplorables. Joe Biden calls them trash. They can't stand the fact that Trump came back and the American people watched all this and rejected it. They don't, they can't wrap their... It's the same reason why you see all this crazy stuff with the shutdown right now. They have not compromised with the electorate because they've convinced themselves that half the country was bad and that Trump is Hitler. But when you do all that, it creates conditions where political violence is much more likely. And then if you're one of these individuals who thinks you're going to be some hero, because think of what he said when he took he he the assassin of Charlie Kirk said he you know, he just couldn't hand that he was spewing so much hate and he had to kill him, you know, catch fascist on the bullet. Like, that's what we're dealing with.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, again, if this is going to stop and it has to stop. we have to be very clear about what the problem is. I would never condone political violence in any situation if it came from the right or the left, but this is overwhelmingly coming from the left.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. Last question for you as well, Senator, the government shutdown. I mean, we're in what, 29 days, I think now and you got 14 no votes and I hear everything about SNAP benefits and all of this stuff. I mean, we know I got to say, I think that you all have been doing a great job on the messaging for this because the public when Republicans hold the line, the public follows and they see all of this. From your perspective, do you think Schumer is going to crack? It seems like the signs are there.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know because that assumes that we're applying some sort of rationality to all this. I think this really is an episode of irrationality because it's really about he's worried about AOC on his left flank.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is she really that – not to interrupt you, but are they really that scared of her influence? Yeah, I think –
SPEAKER 09 :
I think Schumer is going to be the chairman of her presidential run so she doesn't run for Senate. I think that's real. And they also, in their own way, they were very aware of the No Kings rally. They weren't going to do it before the No Kings rally. So what's happened is their base has gotten smaller, Dana. President Trump and this MAGA movement has expanded the base into the great working class. that you and i grew up in in places like jefferson county missouri that's the coalition now they've lost a lot of that and so it's a smaller base but it's been more radicalized and so they view themselves as the resistance but i do think november 1st is an important date um the snap benefits stopped for the first time in history like kids aren't going to have food at the table You know, paychecks aren't going out for people who are actually working like ICE officers and potentially military men and women. So the president's trying to prioritize this, but eventually we're going to run out of money. And this is just irresponsible. We have a clean funding resolution, no more, no less, just time so we can do appropriations bills. That's infinitely reasonable. The mainstream media is really struggling with this, the legacy media, because they're They're used to just blaming Republicans for everything. And if the shoe were on the foot, other foot, there'd be like live broadcast from NBC, you know, NBC Nightly News in front of the Capitol. They even have a hard time of providing an excuse for Democrats because they're just saying no to something that they voted for 13 times before.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Exactly. Well, and I like I said, I love that you all been so strong on the messaging for this and people are seeing it. They realize that they may you know, people may not eat on November 1st because Democrats are wanting to extend Obamacare to you. countless illegal aliens. So they see it. So keep holding the line because you're winning on this. Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt, one of our favorites in the Senate. We appreciate your time, Senator. God bless you. Thank you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks, Dana. Take care. You too.
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SPEAKER 06 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, boy, I got a couple of really good ones today for you, including this this one, which might be maybe one of my new favorites. I mean, I know that there's ways to want to get out of pain for your bill. You know, sometimes you got people dine and dash. So this woman, she is a apparently a very well known in the area, cereal, dine and dashers. So she orders her food, she eats it and runs away. She had a twenty seven dollar fifty five cent meal and she tried to dash. And, golly, that's a pretty serious mugshot there. She tried to run away from it after. 54 years old. She was arrested in Silver Springs. It was a diner. Now, when they stopped her, she said, oh, my husband is M&M and he's going to pay the bill. That's what she said. Marin County Sheriff's Office.
SPEAKER 07 :
The peanut M&M?
SPEAKER 10 :
They responded to... Daryl's Dog Gone Good Diner. Try to say that fast. Daryl's Dog Gone Good Diner. And they called the police. There was a woman there. She was not wanting to pay her bill. She had done told the manager that her husband, Mr. Eminem, the rapper, was going to pay her bill. That's what she told him. She said that she said his name is also Marshall Mathers is what she said, you know, to make it really look like she's in the know, I guess. Make it real legit. She was sitting at the table because she was going to leave. And she said, no, my husband Eminem is going to pay the bill. And she apparently only had $10 in her pocket. Her bill was $27.55. So, yeah, she had $27.55. She had ordered a soda, two entrees, and a chocolate milk. And she claimed that Eminem bought her dinner there at the diner before and that she expected him to do the same. These are her direct quotes. Because he has unlimited money. According to the report, the diner's manager confirmed that she did not pay the previous bill. She was arrested and taken to the jail at Marion County. She has been charged with defrauding an innkeeper. That's a thing. And she's still in there. She's still in jail as of right now. She's still in the jail. So don't try to use that. If you're at a diner, you know, you can't say that M&M's your husband and you don't have to pay the bill, especially when you've been there before and you left. Stick around. We've got a third hour on the way. Partners that help bring you the program because we're capitalists. It's our friends over at Relief Factor. This is a 100% drug-free way to deal with everyday aches and pains. And I think that's important, especially because it targets inflammation. And that's a huge problem in terms of discomfort and soreness from exercise and problems, daily issues. What ReliefFactor does is it incorporates a whole bunch of really good stuff. You've got like resveratrol, you've got turmeric, all kinds of good ingredients that target inflammation and helps your body have a better response, right? It helps support your body's natural inflammatory response. And again, 100% drug free. You can try their three-week quick start for just $19.95. It's only $0.95 a day. It's less than a cup of coffee. Don't wait. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF and get your three-week quick start today for just $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you. Our home, our native land. So this was a guy named JP Sacks and he was singing the, he was singing Oh Canada. He decided to modify the Canadian anthems lyrics. And so instead of singing, uh, our home on native land, instead of singing our home and native land. Oh, wow. Well, that's not how it goes. By the way, they stole their land from somebody who stole their land from somebody. So whose native land really is it? Yeah. How far back do you want to go? I hate this guy's haircut. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. Can I just I don't know who JP Sachs is, but it sounds like a just like a rip off of TJ Maxx. Like all the stuff that doesn't sell at TJ Maxx, it goes to JP Sachs. Hi, welcome into JP Sachs. Would you like a single sock? Wait, no. Wait, what? No, they don't match here. You know, that's at TJ Maxx if you want matching socks. No, here at JP Sachs, you get whatever the hell we get. Here it is right here. Just throw some socks in a box and you can pick out some matching pairs. There you go. JP Sachs. Right? That's what it sounds like. They said he's Grammy nominated. Steve, help me here. Who even is this?
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean this literally and metaphorically. I am today years old.
SPEAKER 10 :
And Steve is a DJ. You don't know. He doesn't even know who this guy is. And he did the thing. You know what the thing is when they're singing? He's like, holds the mic. And he does like one of those like baby things that they used to do with NSYNC and Justin Timberlake back in the day. He's that guy. Yeah. What is the hair?
SPEAKER 07 :
Back in August, he had to embarrassingly admit that his Make Yourself at Home fall tour for 2025, he had to cancel due to poor ticket sales.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, he did? He did, did he? Oh, is that J.P. Sacks couldn't sell tickets? Yeah. Wow. He's a Canadian musician, so that might be why. Nobody knows who he is. But he changed the... I mean, nobody... And these were giant venues, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's not like these were 15,000-seat venues or anything like that. These were 2,000 to 3,000-seat venues.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh. I mean, I think Kohl's Cash events get more people to come out than he... Oh, ooh. They do. He apparently said that he was trying to boost sales on TikTok and he couldn't do it. He goes, I aim too high, my bad. It's when you need to stick into the parking lots of like, you know, the sack and safe where tens of people can show up, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Sacks and safe.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. At least he was honest. He goes, due to unforeseen circumstances, the circumstance I didn't sell enough tickets because nobody likes you. Nothing says white knighting like literally a curly redheaded dude going out and saying and like changing the lyrics of the Canadian anthem because he's buying into the idiotic lie that all of the land that white people are on or that Americans and Europeans or whoever are on in the United States was taken from natives. Just when I hear... Sorry. No, I'm not. By the way, Dana Lash, welcome. Top of the third hour. Good to be with you. The chat's at rumble. Don't hold it against them. But it's... This... idea that is always promoted from the Marxist left that Native Americans, like American Indians, they knew no violence. There was no violence in American Indians. They lived like snow white creatures. They got along with nature. You know? That's why that one commercial featured that one guy who was an Italian playing an American Indian who had a single tear because somebody threw trash on the road. Remember that PSA? Yeah. Yeah. But they act like there was no violence, no fighting that, you know, American Indians didn't even know what that was because they were so stupid. Apparently, that's like, isn't that the the the intimation that when they push this narrative, they did no violence. They knew nothing until the evil Europeans came and they brought with them all their sin. And their disease, those cinny mixinners. And they just brought all that stuff and infected these peaceful Native Americans. Yeah, Steve asks if we can play the audio again. Yes, Steve, we can. Go ahead. Go ahead. Why not? Let's just hear his whole baby voice. So it's supposed to be our home and? Yeah. native land and he said um it's not like cartman dude diaphragm use it that's what his voice sounds like kane i'm not wrong right i'm not being unintentionally mean although that's why you listen just being accurate it's accurate who is this guy canadians canadian that's why no sorry i like our canadian listeners i'm not i i do not use him as a measure of you you guys know this But yeah, he promotes this super red-headed, curly-headed dude. He's white knighting. Just take that vocal tone all the way up in your nose. That's how it sounds best, says nobody ever. Maybe he doesn't sound too smart in addition to doesn't sound too talented either.
SPEAKER 07 :
Isn't all land on earth native land? I mean, when you think about it. I mean, come on.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's like when people get mad about lead. It's like it comes from the earth. Oil comes from the earth. So this was at the L.A. game, the game in L.A. last night. And wasn't it? Yeah, this is he. They had a banger of a banger of a day. OK, can we what? Why is Major League Baseball? Why did I see 15 tweets from the Dodgers and Major League Baseball about? Oh, look. Whoa. Royalties here. Whoa. We got royalty, guys. And I'm like, this is America. The hell are you talking about? So I I kept seeing this pop up. And you know what they're talking about, right? They're talking about that D-list suitcase girl from the game show and her whining, my eyes are too close together, ginger, spare husband. And Major League Baseball said, royalty in the front row, eyes emoji. What? I'm like, they're not royal. Technically, they're not, didn't they? I don't know how I know this, but they dropped the HRH. So technically and they and this is America. We don't care. They're so contrived and so over the top pretentious. My favorite thing in the world that I saw, I saw all of this all over social media was when she was at Paris. She never been to a fashion show before. And she went to Paris Fashion Week and she was walking out of every hotel like she was Zoolander. Like this was her moment to shine in my oversized Balenciaga white trash bag. I just can't get it. But they both just bought those hats. And they sat there at the game. He doesn't know what the hell is going on. He doesn't know. His past activities include dressing up as a Nazi and passing out drinking on a pool table. He doesn't know. And so they're... They're watching this game in Major League. Why the MLB account, the official account, would not stop tweeting about it? And then the Dodgers were like, hey, we got royalty here. Prince Harry. And Meghan Markle. I'm sure that they arrive at Dodger Stadium. Now, for the people who are like, why do we even talk about these two? A, because it's hysterical. I've never seen anybody try so hard to be famous in my life, except for some people in political circles. That said, I also think that this is a Rorschach test. They're kind of a Rorschach test. Do you believe in the tradition of like courtesy and family loyalty and not being beastly to people? Or do you not? I think it's very much like that. But I don't know why. I mean, I saw like a million tweets about this from Dodgers and MLB. Did they have like a deal or something? I mean, aren't these the people who are like, we want our privacy. Don't look at us. We're going to prophesy. And then everything that they do is like, look at us. If you don't look at us, you're racist. Something like that. I don't know. The only Royals are for Kansas City, and they're not very good. Oh, no.
SPEAKER 07 :
That was STL right there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, no. What?
SPEAKER 07 :
That was the STL in you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, maybe. Is that why the Dodgers lost, though, because they were there? Oh, no. Why are you so mean?
SPEAKER 19 :
That royalty thing, you should have commented that instead of what you did. That's more clever.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I only just now thought of it, though. That should have been the tweet. Let's be real. Oh, and apparently they got booed. Toronto fans booed them. Yeah. Yeah, so, and they wore Dodger gear. Now think about this. Toronto's playing. Now this is how tone deaf they are. Aren't they supposed to be like, I don't even think they're representatives of the Commonwealth. Canada's part of the Commonwealth. And they were dressed in Dodgers gear. And they call themselves royal and they cling to their titles. I mean, I don't know. They cling to their titles like Swalwell clung to Fang Fang. I don't know. I mean, like, think of something. It's quite easy. You know? but maybe that's why they got booed. That's just completely tone deaf. I think that's tone deaf anyway. So I don't know. I don't know why. I mean, I'm not kidding. I saw like 15 tweet. I counted. There was like 15 tweets about them. Does anybody who cares? And oh, they were sitting next. They were sitting in front of Magic Johnson. And I cannot remember the other guy they were sitting in front of. And apparently everyone was like, how did they get seats? Because I guess they were given seats. How did they get seats in front of them? They were sitting in front of them. I don't I don't know how that works, but I just would think that you would maybe get more attention with actual athletes being in the front row instead of these like grifters who sell like blood clot jam and, you know, whatever else that they white label. I don't know. I just I just feel like they're so representative of the left. Think about it. He's like this whining loser who wanted an allowance from his dad. He wanted to get paid by the British public, but did not want to do any of the work. Literally, that's what it was. He wanted to get money from daddy. He's like 40. He's in his 40s for crying out loud. He wanted money from daddy, but he didn't want to work. And he wanted the British public to pay for his security, even though he didn't want to work. And then when they said, no, that seems to be egregious. Then he had a tantrum and then they went to America. And now he's our problem. I don't know that that that is so representative of the left, is it not? Like it's the same thing. Like he's no different than the people bitching and moaning about, you know, EBT. He is no different. They wanted all of these handouts from the British public. You know, when they came here, they were expecting. And that's when Trump's like, I'm not giving you nothing. They were expecting the American public to provide their security. They were expecting that in Canada when they were up like near Toronto. That's what they were. Not Toronto. When they were. Whose house were they staying at? Some Russian oligarchs house in Canada before they came here. That's true. I think that's why a lot of people have a very visceral reaction to these two, because they are a representative of the worst aspects of the left wrapped up in two completely annoying grifters. It's just amazing. It is the folks over at Kel-Tec, a Florida-born, Florida-based USA family, all of that company that makes some pretty neat firearms. And in fact, they have The Peacekeepers Program that they're doing, it supports people who protect the communities, military, law enforcement, church security teams, school resource officers, faith-based teams and SROs. Usually you've got small concealable pistols that they rely on and it has a limited range. And so what they do is they provide long guns to help solve that problem. And they fold up compact for discrete carry and deploy in seconds with full rifle capability. The peacekeepers participants also get mission ready support. So you get extra platform testing and you get armor training and direct peacekeeper pricing. for budget-conscious organizations. Now, it's already active, the program, and it's equipped over two dozen churches throughout the Faith-Based Security Network and every Brevard County school, a number of different schools. Rock Springs Police, they run KSG shotguns and sub-2Ks, 5.7s for SROs. Caltech proudly partners with the Faith-Based Security Network, and it gives people access to all the training, all the insight, everything. If you're interested in participating in the new Peacekeepers program, and getting that direct pricing as well, you can fill out the contact form at caltechweapons.com slash Dana. That's K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 10 :
So apparently, this is weird. A pregnant woman was, this is a weird story, I don't know. Because she didn't know how to look at a sonogram, she thought the image looked like her dog. And for whatever reason, people's like, exclusive story on this one. This lady could not read sonograms and she said that her baby looked like her dog. And they did a whole story on this at People Magazine. And now we're all dumber for having seen it. Moving on. We talked about the lab monkeys already. The hurricane hunters. This is crazy. Who flew into the eye of Hurricane Melissa. You know, it's like Cat 5. They said that they had to turn back because the winds were so bad because of the turbulence. The U.S. Air Force Reserve's 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron, known as the Hurricane Hunters, they encountered heavier than normal turbulence when they were flying into the eye of Hurricane Melissa and they were forced to turn back. And we kept reading about the birds that were caught in the eye of it and they couldn't get through the wind wall. But yeah, I mean, it's a Cat 5. What did you... This is not a shocking thing. Scientists discover a key biological difference between psychopaths and normal people. I don't like this headline, Kane. They said that psychopaths have bigger brains.
SPEAKER 07 :
Slightly. In a certain area.
SPEAKER 10 :
People are going to interpret that as immediately that these people are smarter or something. And they're not. That doesn't necessarily... It's more room for crazy up there. That's what that is. That means that there's more room in there for crazy. That's, you know, that's just saying. But they said that they used magnetic... Magnetic imaging. They used MRIs. And they found that the... A region in the forebrain, there's a specific region in the forebrain that's about 10% larger in individuals with psychopathic traits compared to people who aren't psychos. And they said that it's the subcortical forebrain region. So it's involved in motivation, decision-making, reward processing, all that good stuff. And that's apparently the thing that's a little bit bigger. That's weird. Like, why does it get that way? That's the question that I have. And I don't know. I don't like that it infers that. Scientists are raising this. Why? They're growing human teeth in a lab. Now, maybe they're trying to replace, I don't know, dentures, but they're trying to figure out how to grow real biological teeth in the human jaw. So they've been growing teeth from human and mouse cells. So go ahead and book your next dentist appointment to go get your mouse teeth. Yeah, mouse teeth. That's also kind of a ban, right? Stick with us. So folks over at Super Beats, you guys are very familiar with Super Beats and the company Human. What makes their story different is where it began. Human was founded out of UT Health Science Center and built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. Unlike other supplement brands, Human is science born, not just science-ish, and their products work and you can feel them working. UT athletes have used Super Beats for over a decade, calling it their cheat code for recovery and endurance. And you can use it for the same reason, to support healthy blood pressure and circulation. Today, more than 160 college and pro teams use human products, so your favorite team probably does too. And if you've seen the human logo on the Longhorns field this football season, that's more than a sponsorship. It is a signal from human and UT together leading the future of cardiovascular health for athletes and for everyone. The human products feature clinically studied ingredients proven to be nearly twice as effective as diet and exercise alone. Pick up super beats at your local Walmart and start supporting your cardiovascular health today. Get on the road to better health with super beats from human.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my gosh. What is it doing?
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. I don't want a robot housekeeper. That's not a robot housekeeper. That's someone playing a video game called chores. That's what that is. That's not a robot housekeeper. So wait, you're telling me that there's going to be an entire workforce of people if they do this, the only way this would work, and you're just listening to a Wall Street Journal try the first humanoid robot housemaid. You have to have somebody spy on your house 24-7 and do chores using your robot.
SPEAKER 07 :
The cost of convenience.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you have to have surveillance. A company's going to surveil you. And then you're going to have someone who is playing a... They got the glasses on. And they're the robot. It's not a robot. It's not smart. Someone's in it.
SPEAKER 08 :
What?
SPEAKER 10 :
They have to be in a different area doing what the robot does. So you're telling me you're going to have entire... Like, if this was how they go, just imagine, like, say this company, this takes off. You're going to have, like, a horde of people in a building somewhere, all with the headsets, the VR headsets, spying on your house and doing robot stuff. They're just going to be in the middle of a room doing absolutely nothing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wait, like drone flyers?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and doing chores.
SPEAKER 07 :
So that makes this next video of this robot making pizza dough really weird.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Yeah. This is scary. This literally looks like something out of Terminator. Go ahead. Hit me with this one. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh. Oh, is that just a screenshot?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, it's just a photo. Oh. I don't think that's real. That looks dangerous. I mean, I can't even tell that's dough. That might be a cat it's beating to death on the table.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know. That is not a cat. I don't know.
SPEAKER 10 :
I can't see.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is not a cat. I don't know.
SPEAKER 10 :
It doesn't seem legit, though. Would you have, for the purpose of convenience, Cain, in your house, somebody wearing the VR headset doing shorts? Oh, my gosh. What is that? No, wait.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a robot. Now, is there someone? Juan, you've got to put that on screen. You're not even putting it on screen.
SPEAKER 10 :
is that somebody i can't tell if it's dry humping the cabinet or doing i don't know what it's doing what is that is that someone in a building miles away doing this that looks like it's probably of its own accord autonomous that is insane what the dough is not even getting kneaded the cabinet's getting banged all the hell like what is happening i don't want any of that in my house No. For the purpose of convenience, would you have a guy, VR headset, in a building somewhere, surveilling your house, and then very slowly, poorly doing chores?
SPEAKER 07 :
No. I certainly wouldn't. It's the same reason I don't have one of those robot vacuums.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm on the fence about that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't know what to think about myself right now. I feel like I'm failing myself. Steve, would you, for the purpose of convenience, have someone surveil your house and then wear a VR headset and do chores very slowly, poorly?
SPEAKER 07 :
You're answering the question while you're asking.
SPEAKER 19 :
You realize those things have to collect all the data that it learns, right? It doesn't just get rid of it. It has to learn on the fly. So where are they storing all that data? I don't need them to know everything about me.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, in order for them to fold your britches, they do.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'll sacrifice folding my own britches then.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just I don't want anything that badly for convenience. You know what I mean? I don't. I think we humans think that convenience is a thing that we have to attain. And sometimes it's a curse. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Some people in our age group, like back in the day when your car only had the crank up windows and not the electric windows, then we get all these electric things, electric seats, electric, all of that. And then more things go wrong. If one wire breaks, now we don't have access to roll our window up or scoot our chair up. It's not great.
SPEAKER 10 :
I will say my very first car that I had was a, I don't even know what year it was. I'm just surprised it wasn't pulled by a horse. It was a Buick Skyhawk.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, the Skyhawk, huh? Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And whenever I turned left, it went, ooh. And I told you that story. I was listening to Sympathy for the Devil one day, and I heard an extra, ooh, in there, and it was my car. Anyway, the horn very weakly honked at people everywhere. But the... All of my friends... I was very lucky to have this car. I'm not complaining at all. I was very, very lucky to have it. It had probably 11,000 million miles on it. It broke down all the time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we grew up in an era where more convenience actually meant more things could go wrong.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, but I will say... I had the roll-down window and I felt like a poor... I felt like Laura Ingalls on the prairie with Pa and Ma having to roll down my window. Oh, my gosh. If I don't have Wi-Fi for like five seconds, I'm like, oh, my gosh. Time to go in the prepper pantry. We're all going to die. I mean, immediately. I really felt... That to me felt like camping, having to roll down the window.
SPEAKER 07 :
Have you ever put duct tape on your window just so you could pull the window up manually? Yeah, I've done that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Although one time my lock stopped working and I couldn't get out of my car one time. And I didn't have a mobile phone. This was like 1998. I just had to sit in my driveway and my car locked in it until one of my parents, my mom or my stepdad came out and was like, you're missing. I literally couldn't get out. Nothing worked. And that was after the thing on my window fell off. I couldn't even do that. I was so helpless. Anyway. So, my point being, I'm interested in having a robot vacuum, but at the same time, you're basically inviting... What is the technological version of a facehugger in your house? And, you know, letting it run all over your... I just don't, you know, I don't like that. I don't want something up when I'm sleeping.
SPEAKER 07 :
I didn't know that there was a person in some building somewhere controlling that robot. I thought this robot was just autonomous.
SPEAKER 10 :
You thought that was... I thought that was like some... Then they had the guy... Like, do they have to be in the room with you? I'm not impressed. Like, you don't just buy the robot. You get this indentured servant with it. Like, this person... I didn't know that was... so wait a minute why don't you just have like a regular person you're gonna get a robot to do the job and then there's a person standing behind a curtain doing the job instead of taking five minutes to load three things in the dishwasher man the person could put down the damn vr headset just go do it with their hands i mean what This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in my life. People are going to get it. You know that. I don't like that it's a soft body too with like a fabric covering that's nasty. That was the first thing I noticed. More so than the person behind the curtain. I was like, that's dirty. That's going to collect germs and be stained. And then you're going to... Like somebody you'll have company over and they're going to be like, look at your hobo robot. And your hobo bot's going to be all dirty and messy because it has a canvas body. Anyway, that's not... It's not helpful. That's not helpful. Just do it your damn self at that point.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've seen the movie iRobot. I'm not interested.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, people are going to use it for murder. They're going to hide and use that robot to go and murder people. I'm telling you, it's going to be iRobot. And then it'll end up as 28 Days Later. That's what's going to happen. I promise you that's where we're going for all of this. Sometimes makeup can be super frustrating. It's too heavy. There are too many steps. And if you don't have the right tools, it just doesn't look natural. And we are in the natural healthy girl era of makeup right now. And that's why I think Jones Road Beauty really fills this. They really fill this niche and they do such a great job at it. It's founded by makeup artist Bobby Brown and it's a minimalist concept. clean brand designed to enhance your natural beauty. So their products help you get that very effortless, no makeup makeup look and very fast. One standout product is the Miracle Bomb. It's a multitasker that you can use as literally anything. It's a tint, it's a blush, it's a bronzer, it's a lip color, it's buildable, it gives you a natural glow in under a minute. And Jones Road Beauty also offers a full lineup of effortless skin first staples, including their Just Enough Tinted Moisturizer. It's a very lightweight formula and it smooths and evens out your skin tone with a very soft touch of coverage and it's packed with skin-friendly ingredients. The Just Enough Tinted Moisturizer also keeps your skin moisturized without clogging your pores and it provides hydration and a natural, healthy glow. So for a limited time, you can use code Dana at JonesRoadBeauty.com and you get a free cool gloss with your first purchase. So make sure to tell them that our show, The Dana Show, sent you. That's JonesRoadBeauty.com, code Dana.
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As women of color that the way our hair naturally grows out of our head It's beautiful. But if we struggle to make it look like the standard that means we are spending Thousands of hours and lots of money Straightening out what is naturally curly hair, right and that takes time out of your life It did cost money
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't understand what her gripe is. I mean, this seems like this isn't the 1950s. This seems, I mean, there are women who I see have, they wear natural hair every single day. What is she talking about? She's complaining about the difficulties. I mean, who sets the standard? No one set that standard for you. Who does she think set the standard? I mean, everything is a grievance with her. She just can't be like happy. patriarchy did it I mean everybody's got issues with their hair and everybody's hair is different and everybody's got different but good night I mean the hardships of hair I'm just so tired of her constantly being mad at everything everything she seems like such a joy does she not everything everything somebody else oh it's a this is you know what the standard is well who sets the standard I mean, look at Hollywood celebrities. Who sets the standard? No one's setting the standard for you. Good night. This is so goofy. I don't know. I don't know. So, I mean, I also think it's silly to think that women that have different hair textures also don't spend thousands of dollars on it. All women spend lots of money on their hair. Let's be real. All right.
SPEAKER 07 :
today in stupidity came all right it's nancy pelosi we haven't heard from her in a while and pretty much everything she says nowadays and all the other days it's pretty stupid cut uh 25 one listen to this because well i see the democrats every day we you saw a march that was not political
SPEAKER 11 :
And the value of it was that it wasn't political.
SPEAKER 07 :
It wasn't political.
SPEAKER 11 :
It was spontaneous, organic. It was not. Everybody was there. There was not a true word.
SPEAKER 10 :
They literally had like a sheet of logos showing all the sponsors that they had. Not organic.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not organic.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's not organic. That's not how, that's not what organic means. That does it for us today. Folks, make sure that you sign up over at Substack Chapter and Verse. Find us YouTube, Facebook, like, and subscribe. I'll be back with you tomorrow.
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This was super interesting. And especially to see that everything can lead to something else. Like our cooking led you to be, you know, the founder, the president of a business. And even like your activities in high school, middle school, like led to this moment.
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Adeline, what are you looking to do with the rest of your life? You have a sense of that?
SPEAKER 18 :
No, not really, but I'm exploring a lot of interests right now and I enjoy music and languages. So I think maybe something in that area.
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Brett, somebody that's interested in languages and music, you think there's any hope for them? Oh my gosh. I mean, in our world today, everybody speaks different languages and they work with people that speak different languages, have different cultures.
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That's great.
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