In today's episode of 'Best Stocks Now', professional money manager Bill Gundersen navigates through an eventful financial landscape amid a rare snowstorm in Charleston. Bill shares insights on how President Trump's presence is revitalizing the animal spirits of the stock market alongside softer CPI numbers. With major boosts in AI investments, specifically detailing the significance of Project Stargate, Bill discusses the massive implications for data centers, and the tech industry's response in an evolving economic environment. Join Bill and financial analyst Barry Kite as they delve into the resurgence of AI stocks and the surprising rally taking place within AI-driven companies like Netflix, Arista Networks, and Oracle, positioning themselves at the forefront of market opportunity.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Wednesday Snowmageddon edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. Snowed in in Charleston, South Carolina. That doesn't happen very often. But that is the case. I don't think I could make it out my driveway if I wanted to today. Up in Minnesota, they're going, oh, Gunderson, come on, that's nothing. Come on, Gunderson. But we did have six inches of snow on the ground here in Charleston this morning. But the market is, look at that. The NASDAQ is the one that's really cooking here today. The NASDAQ's up 249 points. Guess what? We're back above 20,000. We're at 20,006. Netflix with just a blowout number. And all of that Stargate AI news is driving the AI stocks today, stocks like Arista Networks, Amazon, et cetera. We'll get to that in a bit. The Dow is up 78, not too much there. That's just 18 basis points. Meanwhile, the S&P is up a half a percent. It's up $30. The small caps are flat today. We'll take a look here at the bond market. Last time I looked, it was dead even, 4.57, and it still is 4.57 on the 10-year. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst, and we did wake up. My Mount Pleasant Charleston crew, which is Jeff and myself and Barry, a very rare snow ice storm, a very vicious ice storm about 7 p.m. last night. That laid the groundwork.
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Yeah, that would be groundwork for the snow on top. I don't think there will be very much economic activity in Charleston today. Looking at the roads, I've only seen a couple of cars go by.
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To see snow plows in Charleston is really something. I don't think I'll be picking any romaine lettuce. I had romaine lettuce until yesterday. I haven't checked it this morning, but I doubt that it survived the night. Anyways, we had a very rare winter storm. That's the first one since I've been here, but I do remember one seven or eight years ago.
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Yeah, 2018, and it pretty much shut the – I think the international airport was closed for four days.
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Because they don't have any snow plows. I was like, you give me – Give me 10 other volunteers and we'll have the runway cleared off in four days.
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Yes. Okay, well, you know what? Here's how we finished yesterday. I mean, Trump's first full day on the job was met with a very warm reception on Wall Street. I do think he has a lot to do with the turnaround in the market. Yes, the soft CPI numbers helped a lot, but I think the animal spirits are back right now in the market. To hell with valuations is what they're saying we want in. And valuations at some point in time will come to the fore. But for now, they're kind of thrown out the window. The Dow was up 538 yesterday. And the NASDAQ was up 127. Bitcoin hit an all-time high. Trump has a new coin. Melania has a new coin. They're hitting all-time highs. The nuclear sector had a big day yesterday. Energy looks like it's a good place to be with the AI announcement last night. You know, I was turning on the news last night. I said, I recognize that guy at the podium. Then I realized it was... Sam Altman speaking, and I haven't seen the guy from Oracle, Larry Ellison, for a while.
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I haven't seen him for a while either.
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No, he has changed. And the guy from SoftBank also, spending a half a trillion dollars, investing a half a trillion dollars into data centers. You know, everybody's investing in data centers. It seems to me like at some point in time we're going to have too many data centers. Everybody wants in on the act. And Texas seems to be, Texas is going to be the data center capital of the world. Data center and beef brisket, that's a good combination there. It takes a lot of energy, though, to run those data centers, let me tell you. And it could be the center of, well, Vistra Energy, obviously, headquartered there in Texas, and also NRG Utility. They're getting a big lift here today along with other AI stocks. Project Stargate likely to be the start of massive AI investments in the U.S. The announcement of Project Stargate by President Trump is likely to usher in an era of massive artificial intelligence investments in the U.S., We believe this is the start of a massive AI investment future in the U.S. Stargate is really focused on data center build-outs in the U.S., starting in Texas. We ultimately believe that another $1 trillion of U.S. AI investments could be committed by the rest of the big tech world as momentum builds in Silicon Valley. That comes from the Wedbush analyst.
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It's a new arms race. I mean, whether you're pro or against AI, regardless, right? I mean, countries, companies, you're basically in a spot where they have to.
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um invest in it right and so which i um and the database is a big big thing the data centers she of china said whoever has the most information and data wins the race and so that is the new race along with the space race who did you see the space stocks yesterday right yeah as trump said we're going to put a man on mars okay you know we're getting out there and some pretty speculative stuff here I feel like we're kind of getting into a 2021 kind of market once again that we've got to be careful with.
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Lots of long duration.
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Yes, long duration. I mean, luckily we're in the right spots today. We don't have a lot of long duration, but. Netflix is giving us a huge boost. Netflix is up almost 15% today. That's one of the chosen ones in the premier growth portfolio. Now, who's going to benefit from Project Stargate? Well, I guess we've got to look at Oracle again, even though it's been around a long time. That is Larry Ellison's company.
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Their data center business is huge. Yes. They're one of the big players there. You may think of Oracle as what Oracle used to be.
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Yes. ARM is a big player. Look at ARM today, up 15.9%. That's the U.K. semiconductor company. And, of course, Nvidia, which blew past Apple yesterday as the biggest company now in the U.S. from a market cap point of view, is up another 4.1% today. It hasn't broken out to new highs. It's got to get to 153 to do that, but obviously NVIDIA is a major player in AI.
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And don't soft bank an arm. Didn't soft bank take them private and then spun them off? I knew they had some tie, and that must be why. You know, arms tied to that must be why they're up 15.7%.
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Yes, and SoftBank's up 11.2% because SoftBank still has a big investment in arm.
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And they've been hit or miss over the years.
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They've made some bad investments.
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Decisions, and then, you know, have had a couple, you know, A couple of their big ones, Arm being one of them, has kind of kept them afloat.
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And another one that obviously is a major player in data is Amazon. And it's breaking out to a new all-time high today. It's at $2.47 trillion. And, of course, Bezos was there at the inauguration along with all the tech titans. Amazon is breaking out, and that's another big position we have here today. And, of course, Google is another big player that you can't count out. Google has not performed as well as the others. It's up just about 1%.
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And then off to the side, Apple, basically flat today.
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Yes, okay, and now one more that I have to mention because it's a major player, and nobody ever mentions this is one of the greatest stocks we've ever owned. This is going to go up on our wall of fame here. Arista Networks up 6.8%. That's now a $162 billion company, while Wall Street owns Cisco. We've had a large position. That's one of our largest positions. We own it in both the aggressive ultra-growth account portfolio and the premier growth, and we've been buying it. I mean, last week I was buying it for new clients because of the valuation. Yeah, and bolting out to a new all-time high. So these are all winners in that Stargate news that was announced yesterday. When we come back, I just want to mention the space stocks for a minute. It doesn't get any longer range than that, does it? A man on Mars? How far out is that? But the space stocks like Redwire and Mineric and Viasat and Rocket Labs and Momentus, etc., blasting off. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, I saw up close and personal, I was out on the Space Coast last Wednesday and watched at 1 a.m. the blast off of one of Elon Musk's SpaceX rockets. which carried equipment to the moon. That was not the one that blew up. That was one that lifted off, I believe, from Texas that actually exploded after the liftoff. And then as we were leaving the port at Port Canaveral, I saw Blue Origin's, Amazon's rocket ship all queued up, ready to go. He's built his own space launch site very close to Port Canaveral, where the cruise ships leave out of. And then, of course, Musk launches from the Kennedy Space Center. And yesterday, the space stocks, Redwire, I would say the three major players there, okay? Redwire definitely is a player, RDW. Rocket Labs, obviously, a definite player, RKLB. intuitive machines, which I just looked at. It wasn't in my app, and I added it very quickly there during the break. Lunar, L-U-N-R. And then Telesat, T-S-A-T, is another one that I added to the app. Trump, you know, manifest destiny applies to space. And it seems that the space race is back on. And, of course, with Musk having a very close contact and close contact with President Trump, I'm sure he's got a little bit of influence, wielding a little bit of influence there. The one not benefiting, Bill, is Virgin Galactic, SPCE.
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That thing is up less than 1%, and that thing looks dead in the water.
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Yes, okay, but there are some very large... Now, are these investments... Well, you know, I mean, there is a couple of space ETFs. Cathie Wood has a space ETF, which I'm sure is doing very good. I think there's one called UFO, et cetera. I think right now they're very much more in the very, very speculative, very speculative. I think maybe swing trading these stocks. They're definitely not long-term investments yet, unless you just want to put some away and just forget about it, you know. But, man, these things, they can go from 50 cents to 21 and back to 50 cents very, very quickly, so... This is kind of the new quantum sector, which, by the way, has been rebounding quite a bit. I mean, I've watched Rigetti and some of the others, QBTS, et cetera, that have a little bit of life coming back into them after... after Jensen Wang really stuck a shish kebab right through their heart. But 20 to 30 years out is for the ultimate quantum computer. But in between now and then, I mean, over the next few years, we're going to see major advances in quantum computing. Okay, now, when it comes to all of this data center stuff, that's all I can think in my mind is, man, it takes a lot of energy to to run these data centers and there's some new players emerging there but I just can't help but think that nuclear is not going to be a big major player there. Vistra continues to be one of our best stocks we've ever owned. I know that GE Vernova reported earnings yesterday. They were a little bit short but they're a major player. Constellation Energy, I have said time and time again, is a major player. There's also one that trades on the pink sheets because it's a foreign. But everybody's heard of Siemens Energy and Siemens out of Germany. Siemens Energy is hitting a new all-time high. That is S-M-E-G-F. And I was surprised to see I had the other Siemens in my database, but I didn't have Siemens Energy. I've added that. Let's not forget Rolls-Royce is another major player. I think that's R-Y-C-E-Y. And, you know, it's going to take a lot of power and it's not going to happen from the wind. So what does that say? That leaves you with nuclear and that leaves you with electric power plants and liquid natural gas. Those are going to be... uh the major uh fuel sources for these uh for these power plants well trump's got his own meme coin now it's already worth uh what 18 point i was surprised uh they asked a question in one of the news conferences how much did you make today and uh he said i don't know how much did i make and it's his coins. He's got a coin, and there's one named Melania. So we're definitely getting into animal spirits here. It's pretty wild out there right now, so I would step a little bit carefully there. Okay, the Trump administration weighs selling two-thirds of federal office space. What would that do to the REIT market? How much office space, I wonder, do they have? 70 million square feet or something like that?
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I would guess more than the Catholic Church when they started selling off some properties. Remember when they started selling some real estate years ago? I mean, it's... My guess is they own some prime property, too. I was driving through just here, you know, the old port here, you know, north Charleston, and you've got a couple of buildings there that aren't anything at the moment, and you can tell they're federal buildings just the way the architecture is. So, you know, certain places, they could be a great rehab opportunity, you know, but it would flood the market with supply. Wow.
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Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, people aren't going back to the office. Now, the federal workers are being ordered back to the office, but I guess they don't need all the space. That's part of trimming the fat. So I'm all for it. Quantum stocks keep shining as Honeywell's. Quantinum announces a new R&D center. So it sounds like Honeywell is getting in on the quantum push. And, of course, stocks like IonQ, Quantum Computing, which is QUBT, D-Wave, QBTS, Rigetti, they're starting to surge again. Tariff talk, absolutely. There's going to be tariffs hitting as soon as February the 1st. I know Christine Lagarde over in Europe is warning European countries to get ready for the tariffs. Mexico's going to get hit with the big tariff. Canada's going to get hit.
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Jamie Dimon had some interesting comments.
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Exactly. That's where I was going with this. I mean, he used to be, if I remember right, he was against tariffs. But now he thinks that they're very good for our security issues.
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Yeah, and he was saying that's a tradeoff. He said from a tariff standpoint, he goes, if they do bump inflation up a tiny bit, but they also provide America with some protection, right, then it's kind of, I think he said, I think in terms of what, get over it, or what did he say?
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Yeah, I mean, heck, it's a lot cheaper of sending troops to the border, right? I mean, hey, 25% tariff, Mexico? Yeah. You better get that border under control and help us out with this. Same with Canada. It's a very inexpensive weapon to use. And surprised to see that Jamie Dimon is on board with this. And, of course, Europe. The tariff war, though, can be a bad thing. That's the thing that we have to worry about. Okay, a new player in home delivery. One of America's biggest companies signs up with Uber Eats and DoorDash to deliver. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, Home Depot adds Uber Eats and DoorDash as delivery partners for do-it-yourselfers or contractor projects. How many trips have I made to Home Depot over the years, Barry? I mean, how many trips have you made over the years? Lately, though, I've been having most things. Of course, a lot of the things you can get at Home Depot, obviously, you can get on Amazon. You need one tool, right? That one tool that you're lacking. I needed a wire stripper the other day to strip little wires to hook together. You're going to run to Home Depot? No. You're going to have it delivered to your door. Well, Home Depot is getting in. You know, I still think that DoorDash and Uber, even though they've been pretty choppy in their trading. uh i think they have huge futures because i think uh the delivery of things uh is big business and it's not cheap i mean uh to have something delivered but people are willing to do it doordash stock is now a 74 billion dollar company 74 billion dollar company It is a best stock now. We don't currently own it. They're still a little bit choppy in their earnings, pretty kind of inconsistent. But the growth, the sales growth is certainly there. I mean, the sales growth is 27%, 23%, 23%. It's a 25% grower. and has a long ways to go yet, and I think they're going to just keep fine-tuning it all. And, of course, Uber is the other big one. Uber Eats. Uber has not been a very good performer. I pulled the plug on Uber here recently and decided to move on. It's a 15% grower, 16% grower, still a superior growth stock. It's $143 billion. Uber's got a couple of hurdles to clear, obviously the autonomous whole hurdle that they need to clear. But now delivering for Home Depot, I mean, that's pretty big business there. Tesla getting higher price targets from Wedbush ahead of the golden age of AI and autonomy. Of course, Wedbush is in love with Tesla. They're in love with Elon Musk. They have been a big, of course, they've been right about Tesla. Even though Tesla's been a choppy stock over the years, they're raising their price target from $515 to $550. And, you know, Musk could be a player for, it won't be included in Tesla, but he could be a player for TikTok. He definitely has the interest in combining TikTok with his X. uh and becoming a huge social media company uh fuel cell energy is getting contracts for some of these data centers but you know that's that's the uh water converting water to energy hydrogen Musk used to call it fool cell energy. Fool cell. I don't see that as being a major player. All you've got to do is look at the stock. They've been around for a long time. Plug power. and fuel cell and they've been plugging along to say the least i i i would say that it's going to be nuclear and it's going to be fossil fuels that are going to continue to power the huge needs i was reading uh... i think in rg in texas was talking about the huge increase in demand I mean, you have to wonder, can they build fast enough? Can they produce new power? We haven't built any new power plants in a long, long time, but there's going to be a sudden need. There's some picks and shovel companies out there in that power plant. Chart Industries would be one of them, GTLS. And the other one that is a major player is, uh in providing uh you know contracting and everything uh for for the power plants i was thinking about it yesterday it came up on my charts uh i'll have the name for you here in a bit uh remember the i saw it yesterday come up in my charts and i go you know i forgot about them they're a major player in power plants. So there's a lot of ancillary plays, including, obviously, GE, but they're a competitor to GE. They build power plants.
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And they create those turbines, you know, at GE. I mean, that's where you've seen, you know, in terms of the equipment and bringing on, you know, new power, right? You've got, of course, nuclear, but you've got, you know, the old-fashioned way, right, with turbines and everything else. And that's what a lot of those companies that have, you know, sold that equipment have been, have certainly...
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Well, you know, we were just headed down the wrong path with the solar and the wind, and we've invested a lot of money in infrastructure and solar and wind. It just can't keep up with the soaring demand. There's just no way that it can keep up with the soaring demand. We've wasted a lot of time, and I fear that we're going to have a hiccup somewhere along the way where the power demand outstrips the supply because we're so far behind the curve. And I think that's going to be a good place to be invested in It's an AI play. It's an AI play. Okay, earnings, earnings, earnings. Wow, a lot of big ones here today. And I've been a proponent for Netflix replacing Disney. In the Dow, Netflix is a much, much bigger company. It dwarfs Disney, believe it or not. Netflix is now $412 billion. By contrast, well... Netflix is double the size of Disney now at just $200 billion in market cap. I mean, Disney's in a lot of the same businesses. They're a streamer too, but Netflix has just become a powerhouse. We're fortunate to have stuck with it, and we currently own it in our premier growth portfolio, and it's part of some big gains that we're tacking on here today. We're having a huge day. And in that premier growth portfolio, we own 15, 16 stocks right now. Netflix is a 6.5% position in that portfolio. I don't know how they continue to grow their earnings. I mean, you would think that their subscribers have maxed out, but they continue to improve their margins. They continue to add subscribers. They continue to produce content, award-winning content. So look, I mean, you've got to give them credit. Look at their quarter here. Their sales were up 16%. So, I mean, it's consistently in recent years been a 15% to 20% grower, okay? By contrast, Disney is a single-digit grower.
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And they continue to. They continue to grow, too. I mean, now you're doing more and more live events, right? I mean, so they continue their reach in creating content and, you know,
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They're getting into football. They're getting into, yeah, live events, concerts. Maybe they need to build some theme parks and buy some cruise ships or something.
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And if you're going to cancel one of your streaming services, guess what's far down the list nowadays, right? Netflix would be the last one that you likely would cut nowadays.
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Yes, exactly. And their earnings, listen to the last four quarters of earnings growth, 83%, 48%, 45%, 102%. I mean, that's the kind of thing that great growth stocks are made of. They're going to grow their earnings by 23% this year, 22% next year. You compare that with dogs like Comcast. uh... and charter communications and uh... warner uh... and other media companies i mean netflix is running circles around them and yet very rarely if so if i get a a bit account transferred to me from one of the big wire house firms very rarely do they own netflix they almost always always on comcast which is, you know, I mean, Warner Brothers or Disney. I mean, Comcast is MSNBC and others. Their viewership, I mean, they've lost 50%, 60%, 70% of their viewers. So anyways, Netflix is up not as much as it was, but it is up 11% today. That's a lot when it comes to market capitalization being added on today. Now, two of my favorite stocks, you know, infamous, infamous. I love to rag on Johnson & Johnson and Procter & Gamble because those two stocks are in every portfolio. Well, I can't say every. 90%. 90% if it's coming from one of the big wire house brokerage firms, it's almost a guarantee that Procter & Gamble and Johnson & Johnson are going to be in those portfolios. How are they doing after their earnings today? We'll check in on them when we come back. It's the Best Stocks Now show. And welcome back here to the second or the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, you know what? You've got to throw in some contrast once in a while. a couple of bad stocks you know or you get spoiled and you think all it is the best stocks now show but you have to just look at something here like a johnson and johnson and here's what i mean by mediocre okay over the last 12 months while the s&p is up 28 percent Johnson & Johnson is down 4.7%. It's negative. This is poor management. I don't care. Blame it on whatever you want. It's poor management. Now you say, well, how about over the longer term? Over the last three years... The markets averaged 10% a year, Johnson & Johnson minus 1.3%. And over the last five years, while the markets averaged 16.4% a year, Johnson & Johnson's averaged 2.7% per year. Give me an argument for holding on and having Johnson & Johnson in your portfolio, yet it's one of the most widely held stocks in the entire market. So, you know, if you look at your portfolio and you see the usual ubiquitous Johnson & Johnson there in your portfolio, call up your broker, your advisor and say, why do you have me in Johnson & Johnson?
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It would be, yeah, I'd like to hear the reasoning behind having it in there, right? I can't come up with much of a reason to own the stock unless you just want some pure market exposure. And then my answer would be, well, buy SPY or whatever. I mean, there is no really good reason.
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And I could say the same thing about Procter & Gamble. Over the last 12 months, it's up 10%, but the market's up 28%. And over the last three years, it's averaged 2.9% per year. You say, well, it's done as good as the S&P 500. Not even close. Over the last 10 years, the S&P 500, believe it or not, if you go back to... January 22nd, 2015, 10 years ago today, and you go to today, you've had an average compound annual return in the S&P of 20% per year. That's it over the last 10 years. And Procter & Gamble is 8.9. Now, yes, I mean, it has problems because you can't grow these giant companies, but they've also made a lot of missteps recently. Along the way, especially Johnson & Johnson has made a lot of missteps along the way. Yet those two stocks are in almost every portfolio that comes to me from a big firm. I don't care if it's a big regional or from one of the big national wire house firms. Those are the kinds of stocks that they put you in. Oh, they sprinkle in a Microsoft every now and again, and maybe an Amazon you'll see will show up sometimes. But for the most part, you're going to have the vast majority of your holdings are going to be companies like that. That's just my experience over the years, seeing many, many portfolios that people say, you know, they look at their portfolio and they say, why not? Am I in something that has performed so poorly and is so poorly managed? Okay, now one that is putting in a pretty good performance. You know, I did the numbers. I was looking for a dividend stock for the dividend and growth portfolio. And I looked at Travelers and I said, you know, that's one. Usually big stocks like that, you don't find them to be undervalued. They trade more, you know, what's the word I'm looking for, Barry? They're inefficient. They're pretty efficient, okay? Large stocks pretty much reflect everything. But I just found that Travelers, I said, you know, This has been under the radar big stock that has done very well over the years and continues to grow. So we actually own a boring stock like Travelers.
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And it's a well-run insurance conglomerate.
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Yes, and it had a very good report. It's up 4%. That's one of the few big names that will show up from time to time. Well, it's usually in most portfolios that come to us, but it's one that actually fits the best stocks now, meaning that it has valuation and momentum at the same time. The other one I want to mention is GEV. That's GE Vernova, which is the power plant. I'm still trying to think of the name of that stock I saw yesterday. You know what? There's so many symbols in my brain at any given time. But GE for Nova. That's a powerhouse. What can I say? It is literally a powerhouse, Doc. Spun off by Larry Culp over at GE. The aerospace division still remains the same, but he spun off the medical division and he spun off the power division. And GE Vernova had sales growth of 5%, earnings growth of 140%. It's now a $425 stock. When he spun it off, it was $100. This stock has quadrupled in less than a year, believe it or not. Its one-year anniversary will be in April of this year. The stock has quadrupled. Think of the value that he unleashed, unlocked. It was inside of GE as part of their conglomerate. And Larry Culp, who's one of the great CEOs of all time, said, you know what? I think there's a lot of value here. If we separate it from the rest of the company, that value will be recognized.
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And it gets its own multiple, and then it's a pure play on power versus having to buy GE just for the power piece, that type of thing. Right.
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Quanta is the name of the stock I was trying to think. PWR, Quanta Services. PWR is in helping build power plants, and it's hitting a new high today, by the way. It's up at $361. It did come to my mind. PWR, power. That's the symbol, okay? So that ought to tell you what they do for a living. And, of course, GE, Vernova. We own the competitors, Vistra, Constellation, and Talon Energy. But G.E. Vernova is going to be a major player going forward. Okay, hey, this has been a lot of fun. I can't believe how fast the time went. I'm going to spend the rest of the day looking at charts and looking at stocks, looking for buys, wheeling and dealing, looking for something maybe to upgrade, sell, buy, whatever, and sending out messages throughout the day to my subscribers and clients that follow me throughout the day. To do that, go to GundersenCapital.com, sign up for the four-week trial, or to let us manage your portfolio, set up an appointment. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this episode of the Eminem experience, Mike and Mark dive into the latest political happenings, with a keen focus on President Trump's controversial moves. They discuss Trump's assertive actions, including policy rollbacks, and scrutinize the response from bipartisan sectors. The show further deciphers the media's portrayal of political figures like Pete Hegseth, analyzing allegations and the public's reception. The discussion takes an introspective turn as Mark defends a liberal mindset while dissecting conservative instincts prevalent in media circles. The episode also features an intense discussion surrounding an awkward prayer service incident and a Broadway cast's reaction to Mike Pence. These examples highlight the fine line between freedom of speech and respect in political discourse. The hosts exchange differing opinions on these contentious issues but find common ground in their underlying message of acknowledging and listening to dissenting voices. Listeners will be intrigued as Mike and Mark tackle a local bakery controversy that sheds light on the divisive climate surrounding community interactions. Alongside these heated discussions, the episode culminates in a hopeful outlook as the hosts consider the potential of AI in early cancer detection, presenting a blend of current events, personal opinions, and technological optimism.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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And God bless you, my friend. How you doing? How's it working out for you?
SPEAKER 02 :
44 hours in, you doing okay? Everything good? Look, when I watched President Trump tell Peter Alexander from NBC, stop interrupting me, I thought, we're so back. And Peter Alexander said, you're right, I apologize, sir. I loved it. Just incredible. Look, It's hard to believe that we're back, but we are back in a major way. And gosh, he is, as promised, shock and awe. I mean, it's a fire hose of, you know, DEI firings. Birthright citizenship, gone. Green New Deal, gone. Hostages coming home. Lake and Riley Act passed. I mean, Marco Rubio, I'm a little nervous, 99 to nothing. Whoa. I mean, that was great. But on the other hand, why do the Democrats like him? Makes me nervous. Either. OK, listen, that's a natural.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's a natural conservative instinct. It's a natural talk radio instinct. Wait a minute. If a Democrat thinks it's OK, it must be terrible, which, by the way, often works. I think this, though, is that they just have. They have no arrow in their quiver. It's not Pete Hegseth who has a couple of things you can go after. It's not RFK Jr. who has a couple of things you can go after.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's just so obvious. Let's talk about Pete Hegseth for a moment. So NBC runs with a hit piece yesterday. I saw it. He was allegedly abusive towards his second wife. They go to the wife and she said, nope, not true. Your information is wrong. No, he wasn't. But there's a sister-in-law who's got an ax to grind. And so, you know, look, anybody who's been through divorce and it is a tough, awful thing for everybody involved, there can be awful things that are said during a contentious divorce. And that's what this seems to be. But if the wife is not willing to say there was anything, why not believe her? Oh, no, that doesn't slow NBC down. So they do the hit piece. Oh, the sister-in-law. And you know what the sister-in-law said? Did you see her quote? Her line was, I was assured that if I brought this forward, senators who are on the fence about confirming him will vote against him.
SPEAKER 03 :
So it's about her. She's making it about her.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mark, that was exactly what she said. I was assured that if I tell my story, the ones on the fence will vote against him. It is all about her pound of flesh. Oh. And it's sickening. And I look, I'm now I'm real invested in hoping that he gets in. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just because so much of it is because these people are inherently good, inherently valuable, real change agents for the better. And but the other part is just listen, I call it what you want. Own the libs, accountability, reckoning. I am loving it, loving it, loving it. OK, we got two little micro stories of sort of Trump 2.0 little snapshots. I'm going to give you the choice of which one to do first. We may have slightly different takes. I don't know. Do you want to do the liberal bakery in Flower Mound or the so-called prayer service? Which one you want to do first?
SPEAKER 02 :
Let's talk about the prayer service. President Trump tore into this. I just played the Bishop Marianne Booty. And Trump ripped into her, of course, on Truth Social. He said the so-called bishop who spoke at the prayer service was a radical left hardline Trump hater, and all of that is true. But her message—and I'm going to get in trouble on this, because it reminds me of the time when a Broadway cast— lectured Mike Pence from the stage. For me, it's the same exact story, and I got in trouble back then, too, because I wasn't really bothered by that exchange, and let me tell you why. When the cast members, when Mike Pence brought his daughters and whatever to see a show, and this was right after the election, And they gave him the same kind of lecture. We're afraid. Please be mindful of us. Blah, blah, blah, blah. First of all, he stood there and listened to every word. He did not walk out like he could have because it was at the curtain call. It would have been real easy for him to leave. He listened to every word. And then he turned to his daughter and famously said, this is what democracy sounds like. And I thought that is such a magnificent moment. Whatever you think of Mike Pence, the fact that he acknowledged dissent and recognized that there are people in the country who don't like our agenda. Just like we don't like their agenda, they don't like ours. And we shouldn't be afraid to hear them. And Trump isn't afraid of dissent. That's why he stands in a press room and loves to go toe to toe with all of them. So this bishop, while you could argue all day long, and I get it, it was inappropriate to do it in church. How was she not vetted? But her message at a church pulpit was, Mr. President, please have mercy and compassion. And you know something, Mark, that's nothing wrong with there's nothing wrong with that. And Trump's a big boy and he can take it.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is enormously right. You need me so desperately right now, as you did when you covered for this ridiculous cast lecturing Mike Pence from a Broadway stage. First of all, wrapping yourself in prayer in a pulpit is vastly different. But let's return to how horribly wrong you were in that Broadway example where they they excuse me, bitched at Mike Pence. Did he gracefully take it? This is back when we all liked Mike Pence. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. And you're right. He turned a negative into a positive. That should absolutely never have happened. If you want to go out the back theater door and talk about what a dog you think Mike Pence is, knock yourself out. To do that was unbelievably rude and a perversion of free speech. Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean you should. Ditto, especially for Five times over on steroids with this bishop who chose to wrap herself in the word of God while lecturing the president and vice president. Of course, we should all be compassionate, Mike. Of course, we should all behave in scriptural, brotherly, sisterly ways. Of course, you're a thousand percent right. But the supposition of this political screed from this bishop. From this bishop was that you guys, your positions are bad. Your positions are evil. You are evil because she believes that the only way to be right and the only way to be moral is to think there are 47 genders and to let every single human being with a pulse across the border. Screw her. It was terrible. And you need to open your eyes to that a little bit.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you're not going to try to force me to feel the way you do about something, but I'm not going to argue with you. I totally understand completely your position.
SPEAKER 01 :
I understand you, too.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I know I'm swimming upstream on this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for it, but it's how I feel. First of all, and for the record, and again, don't take this as an argument, you're interpreting what she said. She didn't say any of the things you said she said. She did not say any of the things you said she said. Why?
SPEAKER 03 :
Mike, don't be this dumb. A member of the clergy talking about, oh, the LGBTQ people, they are scared to death. Of what? Of you, Mr. Trump. Of you, Mr. Vance. And giving us this lecture of how wonderful all the illegals are. That's an attack on them. Come on.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mark, that's what she said was, I ask you to have mercy on those who are in fear, and there's nothing wrong with that. It presumes that their conservatism is something from which people deserve mercy. You're presuming that. Darn right I am. And make no mistake, you're completely correct. I know exactly who she is. She has been on record as bashing him before. She is a far left. And incidentally, there's an interesting, I think, issue about the Episcopal Church and what it has turned into. That's a whole difference. And look, you could say that about Methodist churches, too. Indeed so. So that's another issue altogether. Again, I'm not even going to disagree with you, Mark. I understand you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's flip the script. Let's flip the script. Here's one where you might be a little more red meat than me. And I described this in the first half as well. The ultra-liberal Hive Bakery and Flour Man, they went off on MAGA people in their community. So apparently what was happening is that they were getting a bunch of calls ordering cakes. Hey, You guys do a MAGA cake. And you know what the source material is of this. It's all the bakers that got calls from people to do transgender reveals and gay weddings that they didn't want to do. And did they have a First Amendment right to refuse that business? I believe. they did you believe they did the court system is generally believe they did so I think this bakery kind of got trolled by a lot of people who said hey make me 37 MAGA cakes and people had no intention of coming by they just wanted to put their shiv in the ribs of the liberal bakery that having been said this speaking of a screed here's the lady who owns the bakery who writes as follows and I'll hand it to you Mike Gallagher I've received multiple phone calls, emails, and DMs from MAGA and our community asking us to make Trump cakes. It's always the response we get when we post liberal baked goods. It's never surprising. They don't really want to order anything. It's just about harassment. All these bogus inquiries came this week. Therefore, we denied all the requests, not because it's Trumpy ass they want made, but because we're booked up for weeks. Custom work requires notice. They love to cry about it, pretend they've been denied because we discriminate. It's a lie. They love to tell people we charge higher prices for Trump stuff. That's a lie. They love to whine and complain and harass and taunt and belittle and fabricate and pollute everything they touch. That's who these people are. And we're so thankful they never visit Hive Bakery. even though the criminal they voted for one, they still come for us like children, the schoolyard insults. It's never enough. They're bullies. The people who reside here in this town are garbage. Feel free to sift through the comments on your own. You'll see them at the end of the day. We're just a booked up bakery hustling to be the best around. And these people aren't fit to lick our spoons. Wow. So last thing is I hand it to you. Uh, it, I think if you take the high ground, she could have scored more points, but she hates them as much as some of the ragtag people hate her. So this was just so unnecessary. Let me offer it up to you.
SPEAKER 02 :
What's your thought on the bake? I'm confused by it, to be honest with you, and I don't think we have any disagreement. This lady, who apparently owns a bakery in Flower Mound, says... that the people who live in Flower Mound are garbage. Now, explain that to me. You're in business to sell a product.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the people, the specific people who have come after her and who have been taunting her.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, is that what she means? I mean, I didn't get that.
SPEAKER 03 :
These people. She's been talking about the people who have been giving them online.
SPEAKER 02 :
Read that sentence again, if you don't mind.
SPEAKER 03 :
Even though they still come at us like children with schoolyard insults. Read the line about the people who are garbage. These people... People she just referred to, these people who reside here in this town are absolute garbage. Because obviously, plenty of libs in Flower Mound Visitor, and she loves them.
SPEAKER 02 :
It just strikes me as such a peculiarity to own something. You're in the customer service business, and you want to spit all over probably more than half of the community. You know, you only want to serve... cupcakes to a fraction of because it's flour mound it's this is not exactly berkeley and so i i just don't get it i wonder and i always wonder about this and i'm sure they're getting a nor just like the bishop is getting enormous pushback i guarantee you this bakery is getting enormous pushback right now and i don't i don't know why they opt to do why anybody would opt to do this does the does she have the right not to make a mega cake
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. She doesn't want to make a mock. Just imagine if God help us, Kamala had one. Could you would we be speaking up in favor of a conservative bakery saying, you know, we just we just.
SPEAKER 02 :
But it's not a right. It's not a rights issue. It's why would you intentionally alienate a community? Why do you do that? I mean, because is the flack worth it? I guarantee you she's having a bad day right now. Guaranteed. Is she?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I think I think the answer to your to your question is I think they've they've occupied a lane. They have a niche that they are the lib Biden loving, Beto loving, rainbow flag loving bakery. And yeah, but nobody wants a bunch on that front.
SPEAKER 02 :
But nobody wants a bunch of angry residents blowing up your social media site and maybe calling your shop and all that. That's a great point because they can be that political bakery without being so mean about it. Keep your head down and don't be so nasty. And just because people are nasty to you, then you're going to turn around and say, well, I'll show them. Thank you. Exactly right. And there might be somebody in Flower Mound who happens to be a Trump supporter who likes the bakery. But by the way, they'll never darken their door. Exactly. Ever.
SPEAKER 01 :
And a whole bunch of people.
SPEAKER 02 :
And so, you know, I look like like you always say, let the free market prevail. You get to go to whatever bakery. And I wish we had more time. I know we're almost out. But gosh, these January 6th pardons. I've got a simple, very plain question. How many years should somebody go to jail for assault? Yeah. 20? And then if you're going to say 20, then go talk about the cops who were assaulted after George Floyd.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's it. And that's Trump's point. Trump's point is, look, you know, I'm sure Trump's attitude is, I don't like people fighting cops or breaking windows. Yep. But these people have already been in jail for years. How many more years are you going to – what about the guy that had the website, the dark website? He pardoned that guy. Do you know much about this story, Ross Ulbrecht? Yeah. Completely – that guy had two life sentences. Two – what, for a website that people misused? Right. Come on. And Trump is, and a lot of people are saying, praise God. So, you know, again, it's going to be, but how about, I got chills. We've all had cancer in our life. Lord knows I've had loved ones that have been down that road, you know, too many times to think about. And there was Larry Ellison from Oracle and Trump on a podium yesterday talking about how AI can be successfully implemented to catch cancer. cancer early and save maybe millions of lives. AI scares me, but AI used the right way can be just an absolute godsend. And now here's Trump investing in this huge AI infrastructure that could save lives by blood tests that AI can show early signs of cancer. What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive. A golden age, my friend. It is. So let me go get my licks and let me get my head taken off.
SPEAKER 03 :
Don't even bring this up on your own show.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just don't. I'm doing coffee cake recipes in my home today.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's all I'm doing.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm avoiding it like the plague.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love you.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm going to be safe.
SPEAKER 01 :
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An unbeliever is described as a natural man. The natural man has no spiritual life, no eternal relationship with God. “A natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness to him and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually appraised” (1 Cor 2:14). A natural man doesn’t have a living human spirit so can’t understand spiritual things. “May God sanctify you entirely and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Thes 5:23). A natural man will spend eternity in the lake of fire. Why? Because a natural man rejects the grace gift of God, salvation. Rejects that Jesus Christ is the anointed Son of God.
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The Natural Man
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 643 aired on December 31, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes, please stay with me. As always, it's a time of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot
of education, but no manipulation. This show was simply designed to remind you of age-old
Biblical truths that are there and introduce you to an in-depth way of studying and learning God's
Word. As I said, no manipulation, no solicitation, my job is simply to verify and identify the plan
of God for you. Hopefully you will orient and adjust to the plan. This plan starts with the good
news that Christ, the anointed Son of God has redeemed us out of the slave market of sin and our
debt to God has been paid. We are now free of the penalty of death and free of the power of sin.
If you receive Christ as your Savior you are in effect accepting the offering that He made on your
behalf. It's a free gift from God. Ephesians 2:8-9 clearly says,
“For by grace are you saved
through faith and that not of yourselves, it's the gift of God and not of works lest any man should
boast.”
Today on The FLOT Line we want to look at a study called the natural man, the
disadvantage that the natural man has in the devil’s world. Remember The FLOT Line is about
building a main line of resistance inside your soul so that you use the Word of God as a defensive
perimeter to stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever overrun the command post of
your soul, this means to infiltrate your thinking, and lead you into stress-related sins of any type.
It is possible to live in the devil’s world free of stress. It is possible not to worry. It is possible not
to be afraid. It is possible not to have guilt. It is possible to live free of animosity. It is possible to
live this life called the Christian life. This is my objective, to explain these things to you,
hopefully so that you will learn them, understand them, and you'll be able to have this wonderful
life in Jesus Christ. Let's take a look at what 1 Corinthians 2:14 says in regard to the natural man.
“The natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him,
nor can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.”
Here the Apostle Paul writing to
the church at Corinth talks about the unbeliever as being a natural man, not a spiritual man. I
don't know if you remember me talking to you about the three lives. A few weeks ago I talked
about the physical life, the spiritual life, and eternal life.
The natural man, the unbeliever, has
no spiritual life and he has no eternal relationship with God.
He will spend eternity in the
Lake of Fire not because God is angry at him, not because God wants to punish him, that's not
the reason. It’s because he rejected the obvious claim that Jesus Christ is the anointed Son of
God. Let’s get some principles down. Who is the natural man? Who is he? 1. He is the man or
the woman who is not born again, that's who this is. Remember Jesus telling Nicodemus,
“You
must be born again”
(John 3:7). Nicodemus was amazed at that in John chapter 3, “That’s
impossible. I can't go back into my mother and be born again.” The Lord explained to him that
it's a spiritual birth, not a physical birth. 2. We are all born spiritually dead and we are all minus a
working human spirit. This is the key to the spiritual life, you have to have a working human
spirit. 3. The human spirit is the immaterial part of man and it’s designed by God to convert
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information, to store information, and to utilize information regarding spiritual phenomena.
That's the information found in the Bible.
“The Word of God is alive and powerful, sharper than
a two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of the soul and the spirit and the joints
and the marrow, and is a critic of thoughts and intents of the heart”
(Hebrews 4:12).
In order to
utilize what's in the Bible, then we must have an alive human spirit - be indwelt by the Holy
Spirit.
This is what is designed by God to convert this information, to store this information, and
utilize it in our spiritual life. This is called wisdom, the wisdom of God. 4. Adam was originally
created trichotomous. This means he had a body, he had a soul, and he had a spirit. This is the
way that he was created, Genesis 2:7,
“The Lord God formed the man from the soil of the
ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living being.”
He had
a body, he had a soul, and he had a spirit. 5. As a result of the fall and sin both Adam and his wife
Eve became dichotomous. This meant they had only a body and a soul. The reason is because at
the time of sin they suffered spiritual death. What is spiritual death? They no longer had the
ability to have fellowship with God. They lost their human spirit and they acquired a sin nature.
Romans 5:12 says,
“Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death by
sin and so death then spread to all men because all have sinned.”
Adam and Eve were created
trichotomous and when they sinned their human spirits died, they died spiritually, which
meant they were unable to have a relationship with God spiritually.
“God is a Spirit. Those
who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth”
(John 4:24). They were not able to do
this until Genesis 3:15 when God provided a Redeemer. He sacrificed an animal as a redemptive
act of forgiveness of their sin. However, they did have to leave the garden. They could not
remain in an eternal state. Thus we are all born in the line of Adam with a genetically formed sin
nature. It is passed down through the man in the act of procreation. This is why nobody has to set
a child down and teach them how to lie. No one has to set a child down and teach them how to
throw a temper tantrum if they don't get their way. It's their sin nature and it's always the job of
the parent to break the will of this sin nature, to introduce that child to genuine humility. Genuine
humility means they have respect for authority and they obey. If they don't, then you use
enforced humility and this is where God said,
“Those that I love, I discipline and sometimes I
scourge”
(Hebrews 12:6). Sometimes we have to discipline our children to enforce the humility
that they don't have genuinely. Genuine humility is what gives you the capacity to operate in life.
In our passage in 1 Corinthians 2:14, the one I read to you, it describes the human race as being
the Greek word
psuchikos.
This means soulish only. You have mentality. You have the ability to
think, logic, reason, comprehend, determine. You have volition, you have the ability to choose.
You have a conscience and that's a wonderful thing because your parents should program your
conscience to protect you and of course you have self-consciousness, which is awareness of self.
All of this is part of your invisible soul and that's actually the real you. Your thoughts, your
intentions, your desires, your motives, they all make up the real you. This is why Proverbs 23:7
say,
“As a man thinks within himself, so he is.”
The real you is the sum total of your thoughts,
not what you look like on the outside but what you think on the inside. Jude 1:19 says
“These
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[unbelievers]
are the ones who cause divisions. They are soulish, not having a human spirit.”
An
unbeliever has a body, he has a soul, but he's dead spiritually. He has no human spirit.
Thus, at the point of salvation or regeneration we receive the indwelling of God the Holy
Spirit which indwells our dead human spirit and we are literally made alive spiritually.
This
is how we are born again. When God the Holy Spirit indwells the human spirit, we are born
again, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. In 1 Thessalonians 5:23 Paul is talking to the
Thessalonians,
“Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely and may your spirit,
soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Paul mentions
all three, the spirit, the soul, and the body. The fact that the human spirit exists is taught in many
verses in Scripture such as Job 32:8,
“But it is the spirit in man
[that's the believer, the Christian]
and the Spirit of the Almighty that gives perception.”
The Holy Spirit gives the human spirit
the ability to perceive spiritual phenomena.
Philemon 1:25,
“May the grace of the Lord Jesus
Christ be with your spirit.”
2 Corinthians 7:13,
“For this reason, we have been comforted and
besides our comfort, we rejoice even much more for the joy of Titus because his spirit has been
refreshed by you all.”
Titus had a human spirit born again by means of God the Holy Spirit.
In
Hebrews 4:12,
“For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword,
piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both the joints and the marrow and able to
judge the thoughts and the intentions of the heart.”
That's the mentality of the soul. It's the
ministry of the Holy Spirit to teach our human spirit. Romans 8:16,
“The Spirit Himself testifies
with our spirit that we are the children of God.”
Thus, the natural man, the unbeliever, the
disadvantaged person has no advantage in the devil’s world. Listen to what the Lord Jesus Christ
said in John 14:16-17,
“I will ask the Father and He will give you another Helper
[that's because
Christ was going away]
that He may be with you forever. That is the Spirit of truth, whom the
world cannot receive
[the natural man cannot receive Him]
because it does not see Him and it
does not know Him but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.”
Abiding
with them was the ministry of the Holy Spirit in enduement, the same ministry that was
throughout the Old Testament. And
“will be in you”
is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at
Pentecost with a resultant filling of the Holy Spirit. In this passage, the Lord Jesus Christ
disclosed to the disciples that He was going to request the Father provide a, this is the Greek
word,
paraklete.
This means a mentor or a coach. He would pray that the Father would provide
this Mentor for the disciples once He departed the scene. The fact that He said,
“You know Him
because He abides with you,”
is a reference to the enduement ministry of the Holy Spirit which
was used throughout the Old Testament. Now the Lord Jesus Christ is promising a different
ministry of the Holy Spirit. Now He’s saying,
“He will be in you,”
and this is a reference to the
indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the opportunity to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Ephesians
1:13 says,
“In Him
[in Christ]
you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your
salvation having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise.”
This is
the first thing the Holy Spirit does for the believer.
When we accept Jesus Christ as our Savior,
the sealing ministry of the Holy Spirit takes place. This means that you are marked as a
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redeemed individual.
It’s just like the old time way of canning jelly or something. You put wax
or paraffin over it and seal it to keep the oxygen out so it doesn't spoil or get moldy. Some today
use a vacuum sealing so when we are canning things we don't use the wax anymore, but this is
what that is. It's the Holy Spirit sealing you, protecting you, marking you. You are sealed by the
name of God. Then we have the second mandate in Ephesians 5:18 that says,
“Do not get drunk
with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Holy Spirit.”
This is a different ministry
from the sealing ministry of the Holy Spirit. Anyone saved is indwelled by God the Holy Spirit,
but the filling of the Holy Spirit is a different process. When we are saved, we are filled and
sealed but when we sin, we lose the filling. We do not lose the sealing, we lose the filling. The
Holy Spirit is quenched (1 Thessalonians 5:19) or grieved (Ephesians 4:30) when we sin and
thus we use problem-solving device #1, the rebound technique,
“If we confess our sin, He is
faithful and just to forgive us and purify us from all of our wrongdoing”
(1 John 1:9).
It's
essential that you understand how to maintain fellowship with God by means of the filling
of the Holy Spirit.
You are sealed with the Holy Spirit when you're saved but you may be out of
fellowship with God. You may be doing all the right things but you may be doing them in the
wrong way. This is called human good and it is possible for the believer in Jesus Christ to do a
lot of human good. This will all be discovered at the Judgment Seat of Christ where 1
Corinthians 3:10-15 says the fire will disclose it and every man's work will be manifest. Some of
it will be wood, hay, and stubble and be burned up and some of it will be gold, silver, and
precious stones and this is rewardable. The part that is burned up are all the good deeds you did
in the name of God but not filled with the Holy Spirit. You did it in the energy of the flesh the
same way an unbeliever would do good deeds in the energy of the flesh.
Anything done outside
the filling of the Holy Spirit is human good. It’s the energy of the flesh and God will not
and cannot reward you for this.
Remember this in your study. If you want to have eternal
rewards, you must maintain the filling of the Holy Spirit as per Ephesians 5:18.
“Do not get
drunk with wine but be filled with the Spirit.”
1 Corinthians 3:16 tells you,
“Do you not know
that you are the temple of God and that the Holy Spirit lives in you?”
He dwells in you and He
desires to fill you so you have a choice. The unbeliever doesn't have this choice. You can allow
the Holy Spirit to fill you and thus lead you and thus give you great wisdom through the Word of
God or you can operate like an unbeliever, indwelt by the Holy Spirit but not filled with the Holy
Spirit. This means you have unconfessed sin in your life. The unbeliever is at a distinct
disadvantage in the cosmic system. That’s the world, the
cosmos diabolicus
since he doesn't have
the insight or the foresight of the ministry of God the Holy Spirit. You on the other hand have a
wonderful opportunity to have a personal Tutor, a personal Coach, a personal Guide to navigate
in the devil’s world if you stay filled with the Holy Spirit and if you use the problem-solving
devices. Problem-solving device #1 is how to handle sin, use rebound, 1 John 1:9. It’s the means
of the filling of the Holy Spirit. Problem-solving device #2 is the filling of the Holy Spirit and
this is how I produce divine good as opposed to human good production. If you use problem-
solving device #1, if you confess your sin consistently when you're aware that you sin, either a
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mental attitude sin, a sin of the tongue, or even an overt sin, God promises that He will be
faithful and just to forgive you and this is the secret to the filling of the Holy Spirit. The devil is a
master deceiver and the way he deceives people is using organized religion to convince many
people that they are going to heaven since they are morally good people. They think, “Since I'm
morally good then that's going to get me some brownie points with God and I'll be going to
heaven.” This is not what Ephesians 2:8-9 says.
“For by grace you have been saved through
faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God not as a result of any type of work, so that no
one could boast about it.”
The only way anyone will ever have an eternal relationship with
God is by means of faith alone in Christ alone, faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ.
When He cried out on the cross to tell us
tetelestai or “It is finished”
(John 19:30) this meant
that the redemptive work had been accomplished. He laid His life down as a sacrifice for us. This
is why 2 Corinthians 5:21 says,
“He who knew no sin was made sin for us so that we could be
made the righteousness of God through Him,”
or by means of Him.
This is how we have a
relationship with God, through Jesus Christ.
When we receive Him as our Savior, His perfect
righteousness is accredited to our account just like our sin was accredited to His account on the
cross. If you want to have a relationship with God, if you want to have an advantage in the
cosmos diabolicus, living in the devil’s world, my suggestion is you believe in Jesus Christ, and
receive Him as your Savior, allow the Holy Spirit to indwell you, and then stay filled with the
Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit needs ammunition. He needs ammunition to steer you and
guide you and the ammunition is the Bible.
It's the Word of God where it says,
“It’s alive and
powerful.”
We are told to,
“Study to show ourselves approved unto God a workman that needeth
not to be ashamed”
(2 Timothy 2:15). We are told to,
“Grow in the grace and knowledge of our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ”
(2 Peter 3:18). Without this studying and without this growing,
the Holy Spirit doesn't have the ammunition He needs to direct us, guide us, and lead us in the
plan that God has for our lives. The next principle I want to give you regarding the ministry of
the Holy Spirit is that you now have the opportunity to be refreshed by others who are like-
minded, other individuals. This is a wonderful thing. When you are fellowshipping with people
that think like you think, that believe like you believe, it's a wonderful fellowship because the
fellowship is not based on who we are or what we are or what we can do for one another.
Like-
minded fellowship is based on the truth of the Word of God and we rejoice together in this
truth.
It's not a physical fellowship. It's a spiritual fellowship based on the Word of God. Listen
to what Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 7:13,
“For this reason we have been comforted and besides
our comfort, we rejoice even much more for the joy of Titus because his spirit was refreshed by
all of you.”
When you're around like-minded believers you have a refreshed attitude, a refreshed
spirit. Thus, you have a distinct advantage over the unbeliever who has no clue about what's
going on in the cosmos diabolicus, the cosmic system, or the devil’s world. He doesn't have a
clue. His only option is human viewpoint thinking. This means he has to depend on people or
circumstances to provide his happiness and what a shame. Unhappy people take their
unhappiness with them wherever they go. Some people think that if they have certain things
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they'll be happy. If they win the lottery, they'll be happy. If they get a new automobile, they'll be
happy. If they have the right relationship, they'll be happy. There is something called temporal
happiness. It doesn't last. It’s not the joy that Jesus Christ our Lord talked about. The joy that He
talked about is an incredible happiness even in the midst of adversity. Remember what it says in
Hebrews 12:2,
“Who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the
shame.”
There is no greater joy than being in the center of the plan of God for your life.
May I suggest to you that you accept the claims of the Lord Jesus Christ and trust Him as your
Savior? If you will do this, then you will have a rebirth of your human spirit. The Holy Spirit
will indwell you and He will be your personal Guide, your personal Mentor, your personal
Coach, and Protector in the arena of contention called planet Earth. The wonderful thing about it,
it's a free gift from God. You can’t earn it, you can't buy it, you don't deserve it, it's a free gift all
complements of the finished work of Christ on the cross for you. Have you ever accepted this
gift? Have you ever made the most critical decision anyone could ever make, to believe in the
Lord Jesus Christ, to put your faith alone in Christ alone? Tell the Father, “I'm not depending on
my good works Father. I'm not depending on anything but the finished work of Christ on the
cross and I want to believe in Him and receive Him as my Savior.” You can word it anyway you
want but express this faith to God in prayer and He will answer. You will have eternal life.
Romans 10:13 says,
“Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Until
next week this is your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for being with me today
In this enlightening episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush and guest Kurt Rogers shed light on how the recent changes in leadership could potentially transform the landscape of mortgage rates and the wider real estate market. With in-depth analysis and expert insights, listeners are guided through the possible impacts of upcoming executive orders and their financial implications. Further down the conversation, the focus shifts to pressing issues surrounding immigration, as new policies come into play. John and guest Ben from Evergreen delve into the nuances of these changes, discussing their effects on both the economy and the socio-political environment. This balanced dialogue provides clarity on a complex topic that remains vital to the national agenda. The episode also tackles consumer safety with a critical look at the FDA's stance on food additives like red dye, addressing critical health concerns and calling for more stringent regulations to protect citizens. Don't miss out on an episode filled with practical advice, impactful discussions, and thoughtful analysis, offering a comprehensive understanding of current events and their implications.
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And we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Time for our Monday Mortgage Minute. Kurt Rogers joining us now from Affordable Interest Mortgage. Kurt, we have a new president today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, we do.
SPEAKER 06 :
What will he do in regards to the housing market and mortgage rates? What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 03 :
I honestly believe, and we started to see a little glimpse of it on Friday with rates move before the weekend. I think that he's a businessman. He's going to be very favorable. The stock market's going to like him, and you're going to start to see rates, mortgage rates. When I'm talking rates, I'm talking mortgage rates. You're going to start to see them. They've kind of inched up quite a bit. They're going to start working their way on the way down. We're going to start to see that in as early as, I believe, in about 10 days.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, I don't disagree with that. I think some of what he'll even do here in the next several days in regards to some of the executive orders and the unwinding of some of the things that have already been done by the previous administration, some of those things will have a very positive effect on what you're talking about.
SPEAKER 03 :
The stock market, they're not going to be skittish anymore. They're going to know that he's got a plan of action, and they just want a little security, and that's going to start to move it.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I can't disagree with you on that one. I think you're 100% correct. All right, you take over Haystack Help Radio. I had Scott on actually earlier. We were talking about D.C. and some things going on back there that he was able to attend. But you take over Haystack Help Radio on Tuesdays. What do you got going on tomorrow?
SPEAKER 03 :
We're going to be talking about different ways he's going to be doing that, different questions people have asked me about how to buy a home, self-employed borrowers, what's the all-in-one loan. We're going to be talking about all that tomorrow.
SPEAKER 06 :
And by the way, stock market across the board, I just checked, was up. So, Kurt, I think that what you're talking about is on track, and I think the markets will have some confidence in – really quick, just some of the – cut in wasteful spending and things along those lines, which you know as well as I, they don't care for. You see some of that pull back, and the market's going to respond.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I firmly believe he's going to lower food prices. I think he's going to start to settle down on the inflation to where it's not bad now, but he's going to give the market a much better grip on it so that they'll be able to continue And I just believe it's going to happen with some of the things he's putting into place.
SPEAKER 06 :
One of the things, really quick, before I let you go, just the energy sides of things where he's talking about keeping some of the, quote-unquote, plants that were scheduled to shut down. He wants to keep some of those open. He knows we've got a real electric grid problem in the country. He's going to do some things to try to shore that up. And, Kurt, that will bring some of those energy prices down if he does that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, he's going into office not the first time new.
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And he's a businessman, so he already knows what's in front of him. He seems to have this calmness about him, and he has a plan, and he's going to work the plan. And the last time he did it, it worked. I can't see how it's not going to work this time.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Ben and Evergreen, what's going on today, sir?
SPEAKER 12 :
There is a new sheriff in town.
SPEAKER 06 :
Amen.
SPEAKER 12 :
And, you know, I just had a few comments about, first, he signed a thing that we're pulling out of the Paris Accords. Good.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think that's one of the first things he did, Ben, if I'm not mistaken. Is that not correct?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I don't know. I've seen spotty things on the inauguration. But we may save a trillion a year. That's huge. Well, not that we will that much, but even if it's half that, The interest on the debt is about a trillion a year. Right. So that's movement in the right direction. And then there's other things like the border. I love this. I saw a thing about Tom Holman. This reporter was giving him a hard time. And she said, well, when's all this going to happen? And he looks at her and he goes, day one. Just like a boss, you know, like. Honey, we're not fooling around. This is a new way of doing things. And really, the old way, before we had runaway border running, it worked. And Trump gets demonized because of this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you know, it's funny. Really quick, Ben. I want to stop there for just one moment because I wanted to touch on that because what you just said, by the way, is correct. The left, though, would have you believe that the border was never secure under Donald Trump, that everything has been status quo and Biden didn't change anything there. That's what the left would want you to believe.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. And, you know, to show how it's easy to get mad at somebody. Clinton, when he was in office, I didn't like it when he did it, but he did the right thing. He put a five thousand dollar fine. I remember because our business, we had to run one employee off. He didn't have the right paperwork. We don't want to pay the $5,000 for the fact that...
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, this guy didn't... And I think along those lines, too, and I think I've had this conversation with others, and I think there's a lot of folks on the left that feel like, you know, there's just going to be this huge mass deportation of everybody that's entered the country illegally. And, Ben, I don't think that's what's going to happen. I think they're going to take a very strategic approach to that end of things. They're going to go through, number one, and look at, okay... Who here is illegal that we know has either had some criminal history, maybe they've already committed some felonies, maybe we know they're associated with gangs, the cartel, whatever. Those are going to be the first ones they go and round up, trust me. Because, by the way, they're the worst ones for the country because they're just doing more to our demise than anything else. They're not uplifting anyone. They're not helping out employers. They're not doing a single thing to lift the country up. They're going to be the first ones to go. After that, I think, again, what you saw Trump do today, number one, they're going to seal the border. Number two, they're then going to go through strategically and look at, okay, who's helping support the economy and who's a drain on it? Those that are a drain are going to be number two.
SPEAKER 12 :
And, you know, frankly, although it's the right thing to do, I'm going to miss a lot of the Mexicans because I work with them. And, you know, when you need something done, because Americans have become so lazy and If you want something done, ask a Mexican.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I think, you know, Ben, again, I think those that you're talking about, which I'm with you in a lot of this, I don't think those are going to be the first ones to go. In fact, it may take several years to even get to the point. And by the way, I think those particular individuals that you're speaking about, I do believe the administration will figure out ways to, okay, what do we need to do? to make those that are contributing, that in some cases, by the way, Ben, might even be paying taxes and things along those lines, because, yes, you can be illegal and still do some things along those lines. I know that's hard for some people to understand, but, Ben, you know what I'm talking about. Some of them are. And those that are, by the way, Ben, I do think you're going to see this particular administration figure out a way to allow those folks to, whether we go to a merit-based system or something along those lines— I frankly don't see those people ever getting shoved out. I think Donald Trump knows full well that we need those individuals that are contributing, but if you're not, you're going.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and some of these, like, gangsters.
SPEAKER 06 :
They're already on notice, as you know from today.
SPEAKER 12 :
And the way I'd handle it, the ones that are real bad, I'd give them an American trial.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it's interesting you say that, Ben, because keep in mind, one thing Donald Trump said today is he's going to make those gang and cartel members, he's going to now classify them as terrorists. So that changes things even in the criminal end of things.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, I'd be glad to help out getting them down to Guantanamo Bay. I think if anybody— You're going to come here and cause all these problems.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, if you're one of those listening to that and understanding what that means, I think—and I'm going to put them on notice if any of them are listening. I don't know if any of them are or not, but I'll put them on notice. You might as well pack your bags and leave because you're going to be on your way out anyways.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and what I would do is once they would be convicted for terrorist and or other crimes— If I let them go, I'd say, we're giving you a ride to your country, courtesy of the taxpayers. The first time we're dropping you out of a plane with a parachute. If you come back, You're a marked man, and we're giving you a free ride back, but you don't get a parachute.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I mean, at a certain point... Well, you know, and the other thing, too, that you've heard this administration talk about is how the free rides here, there's a lot of asylum countries that are getting a free plane ride to the United States of America. That's ending also, Ben.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
And should have.
SPEAKER 12 :
Should have already ended. And really, when it comes to mopping up what's gone on, I hope there's at least a little bit of scorched earth going on in D.C. because who in the world thought that it was a good idea to leave this border open because they wanted to go against Trump? And it's one thing a guy swimming the river and he's going to work and he just needs a hand. It's another to let all of these, again, these cartels, human traffickers. criminals, you know, they're up to no good. They were up to no good where they were from, and we're saying, come here.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct. Yeah, and Ben, and I realize this is one of those topics that becomes very dicey for a lot of individuals. I mean, Ben, you know, my heart goes out to anybody that doesn't have the privilege, and that's what I consider to have been born here. It very much is a blessing and a privilege to have been born on this soil and not have had to come here from another country. I'm very thankful, by the way, Ben. I wake up every day thanking the good Lord that I was born here. Why did I have that opportunity, Ben? I cannot answer that. All I know is I am. But... I also know that that doesn't take away from the fact that we need strong borders and we need to make sure that we're taking care of our own. If we can bring others in based on a merit based system and they can contribute to what we have going on, then you know what? I'm all for that, Ben. But on the same token, I also understand that. As much as our heart goes out to all of these different countries and people that are facing adversity and so on, and our heart does, that also doesn't mean I throw the door open and just let them in.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and ICE will probably make some honest mistakes, is what I call them. There'll be people that slide through the cracks, that get shipped away, that probably deserve a chance here, and there'll be other people that are troublemakers that that don't get thrown out, I'd like to track them down myself.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ben, I would go as far as to say this, even, just to throw one more thing into what you're saying. Those that are here on government dole that are not willing to work, how about we do a swap for those that want to come in and work, and we'll send those that don't back to where they came from?
SPEAKER 12 :
I like it. A trade-out program. I'm good with a trade. Yeah. Yeah, they do that, you know, and in a way, I mean... In a sad way, that's what's going on in Israel. They want to give back a bunch of proven Hamas terrorists, hundreds of them. for innocent hostages.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Right. Anyways, I mean, these are things that, you know, we can talk about and glad we can, glad we live in a free country where we have that ability to do so. Glad that we have an administration now, Ben, that's going to allow you and I to continue to talk about that openly, including social media and other places, because we were getting very close to the point, Ben, with the last administration of you and I not being able to have that conversation.
SPEAKER 12 :
And even when Obama was in, I heard him say publicly a few times, you know, if people are saying things against the administration and policies, we want to know about it. And candidly, I had some trepidation about speaking my mind, although you could probably tell from the times I call, I'm a bit of a loud mouth, but now I feel freer to speak.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. And that should never be... No, Ben, in this country, we should always be free to speak whatever we want, and I've said it numerous times, no matter what somebody wants to say, they have the freedom to say it. They could be way out there in left field on whatever it is they're believing and preaching and saying, you know what, on the same token, this country gives them the right to do so.
SPEAKER 12 :
And then finally... I think the word's getting out that there's a new sheriff. Like the FDA, you know, RFK Jr. is bringing out that basically, I could have told you this years ago, our food is like a poison system. It's a plague. And the FDA came out the other day, a couple days ago, and they said, oh, you know, we've discovered that red dye, there's a possible link to cancer. And I'm thinking, well, you've probably known that about 20 years.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or more.
SPEAKER 12 :
And now, I remember he mentioned red dye specifically. And look, I love all that junk food, but when you have it so mainstream, and it's so tempting, and sugar is so addictive, and all these things, It's about time we do what the European, many European countries do. Yep. And outlaw poisonous things in our food.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and you know me, Ben. I'm not one to be like Europe because a lot of what they do I don't care for because it's very socialistic. On the same token, some of the things you and I are talking about right now where we know what's best for... for our citizenry, we should be protecting them. That's one of the roles of government, by the way, is to do so. And yes, we like freedom of choice and we like the ability to have a free market and so on. But on the same token, when we know there's things out there that are literally poisoning and killing our population, why are we not stopping that?
SPEAKER 12 :
It's common sense, like Trump says. And, you know, this... Part of our form of government, I don't know if you'll be able to clean this up or not. These lobbyists get in there and they go, hey, it's legal. You know, we can do this and that. And I'm thinking, yeah, that's part of what's the backdrop that in the regulatory state and the people in that. swamp area have created this mess.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Well, really quick, Ben, unfortunately, far too many staffers and or politicians, once they're done, go and work for the lobbyists because they know how the system works.
SPEAKER 12 :
And in my opinion, if you're a lobbyist and you even make a phone call or drive by D.C., you even text somebody, send them a postcard, That ought to be five years in prison, not jail, prison. And, you know, that system, that's one flaw I see because these special interests claw their way in.
SPEAKER 05 :
They do.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I see how it happens because they want to get their niche, their little guarantee.
SPEAKER 06 :
of income and laws and power and we've seen ben that you know not to change subjects but it goes along with what you're talking about part of what's going on in california right now in regards to wildfires and so on is because those special interest environmental groups have gotten their way far too many times and in turn what we just saw happen happened and really do in part to them in fact ben uh if I were some of those folks that lost homes and so on. I would be looking at lawsuits against class action lawsuits against some of these environmental advocacy groups and so on. You know, some of these activists that are out there, I would be looking at class action lawsuits if I were them.
SPEAKER 12 :
I agree. And I think it's I want to say Seattle or somewhere. They're starting to do some class action against their own city government.
SPEAKER 06 :
If you want to stop some of, at least in that world, I know the lobbying thing is a whole other conversation, but if you want to stop some of these extreme groups from having their way, we need to start bringing some class action lawsuits against them when they get their way, and then it affects public adversely.
SPEAKER 12 :
I agree. But then it gets into a big legal entanglement, and it takes years to settle out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Although, here's the thing, though, Ben. It would be a taste of their own medicine, because they do that on the other side. I mean, they start lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, eating up valuable taxpayer money, time, and so on. So why don't we do the same thing back to them? Give them a taste of their own medicine.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm in. I like it. I really do.
SPEAKER 06 :
We need to do that. I was thinking of that over the weekend. I'm like, okay, I was reading things over the weekend where a lot of what California especially is experiencing, and we see some of it even here in Colorado, is where these special interest groups, Sierra Club, etc., they get their own way. They file a lawsuit. That lawsuit wins. They can stop this. They can stop that. This doesn't take place. That doesn't take place. We can't clean up the brush because of this bush or this plant or this whatever. And they win these things. And then we see what's happened in California happen. And I get it. There's mismanagement on the part of the fire end of things and so on, the control of. But on the same token, Ben, if some of these environmental groups didn't get their way and or had some accountability when they do, they might think twice about doing that the next time.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, and I think that's more territory for people like the American Center for Law and Justice that have been. Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
And then my feeling is some of those groups really need to look at some of this stuff hard and go after some of those individuals that are out there and say, listen, you know, we can put a stop to this in the future. We can't change where things are at right now. But you know what? Maybe there's a way to even get you some compensation with a class action lawsuit against X, Y, Z environmental group.
SPEAKER 12 :
As soon as something hits somebody in the pocketbook, they figure it out.
SPEAKER 06 :
And a lot of that going forward, and my point, Ben, would be it would change because as these environmental groups start to fight some of this stuff on their own, they wouldn't have the money to do some of the other things that they are doing, and they'd get a taste of their own medicine.
SPEAKER 12 :
And part of it, too, is the gullibility of people. Oh, it's the Sierra Club. They put out this fancy little calendar. They want to save these poor little seals. And it all sounds good on paper, but the reality is they, and look, I'm not all in for big business.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no, you are like me. I mean, we need to be environmentally conscious of the things going on around us. My dad taught me, leave things better than the way you found them. That should be our number one goal every day. And as long as we take that approach, Ben, we should be in good shape.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Anyway, you probably got other people.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, John, before I get into it, I got a question. Yes. We get a federal law passed where if it's below zero and somebody says, is it cold enough out there, you can punch them in the mouth.
SPEAKER 06 :
That wouldn't be fine with me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because, I mean... Who says no? I want it colder when it's below zero.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what, John? When it's below freezing, it's cold enough for me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. My dog decided he wanted to try to walk to Colorado when I got home from work tonight, and the wind chill was my disturbance. Oh, boy. He did what he had to do, and I was like, let's go. Time to go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're not going that way. But what do you do? You love your dog.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's the one thing. That's a fact. So... There's a law that was passed in the 70s. It's really hard to find, but I heard a while back a talk show was talking about this law where the federal government puts a whole bunch of money aside to allow these environmentalist groups and other groups to sue the federal government. So in essence, we're giving the money to these groups to sue us.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a bunch of garbage.
SPEAKER 09 :
So there's law firms out there. that all they do is specialize in suing the U.S. government for whether it's Sierra Club or whatever.
SPEAKER 06 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 09 :
If that law was overturned, half these lawsuits would go away right away because they don't have the money to fund them. True. Good point. And I've been looking online, but I just can't find what it's called. But it's been out there since the 70s. I think it went in maybe under Nixon. You know, when the EPA was just starting up and they were trying to help people to fight, you know, pollution and everything. But it's gone overboard. I mean, what was it, 21? There's a national forest in California. And the Forest Service said, we're going to go in and we're going to do some good forestation. We're going to clear. And the Sierra Club came right out and put a lawsuit in. And the Forest Service said, you know what? The heck with it. They didn't even bother fighting it. They said, plans canceled.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I'm reading an article right now that says suing the EPA can be a lucrative business. The Equal Access to Justice Act, as well as other cost-shifting provisions in the Clean Air Act, allow activist groups to collect their attorneys' fees in these suits if they can show that the EPA's position was not substantially justified. So I think that's your answer, John.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so we're paying these groups to sue us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Essentially, we are. Taxpayers are, absolutely, yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, and these law firms, they specialize in it, and all they do is sue the federal government and make millions of dollars probably every year. Yeah, that needs ended. That needs to go away.
SPEAKER 05 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because, you know, if the Sierra Club, and I'm going to pick on them because they're the worst when it comes to the forest.
SPEAKER 05 :
True.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, look at California. If they did some... constructive forestation.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, but really quick, the reason they didn't is because of what you're talking about. An environmental group, I don't know if it was the Sierra Club, if they were a part of that or not, but I know there was a particular environmental group that sued over a particular plant that if they deforested, this plant would be, you know, quote-unquote, you know, obsolete. It wouldn't exist in that area any longer and so on. And so they sued and successfully won, and that's why they don't deforest some of those things.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mm-hmm. And all you have to do, if you do any wilderness area hiking... is there are every forest, I would say, from probably I-70 north to halfway north of Colorado, Medicine Bowl route, Arapahoe, Roosevelt. If you get off, like, the favorite trails in Estes or, you know what I mean, and get into some of the wilderness areas, those trails, every one of them is one match away from a major forest fire.
SPEAKER 05 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because they don't go in and clean that stuff up. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
forest fires are the way that the forest rejuvenates itself john when we were kids i mean this is granted i'm old but years and years ago you know 50 years ago or so you know here in colorado when we had the last beetle infestation all the way back in the 70s you know the government would come through forest service would come through they would mark certain trees you could go up and cut and you could take home and there was a rule where if you did you had to tarp that wood for x amount of days to not allow the beetles out and so on and so anyways You were supposed to do all these different things, which, by the way, I think the majority of people actually did, and they ended up with a lot of cleaning of forests by just Joe Homeowner that wanted to go ahead and heat their home with a wood stove or whatever it happened to be that would go up and do a lot of that forestry work for them, free of charge, by the way, and we ended all that nonsense.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there was a couple of years ago a medicine bowl route north of US-40 into Wyoming. You know where I'm talking about. Yeah, I know. They had along a couple of forest roads, they had piles and piles of logs that they had pulled out, bark beetle kill logs. And there were signs that said free. And they were in eight-foot sections. And you could just go up and load as much as you could fit in your truck. And they were giving it away. And people were going up and taking it. And I guess the same kind of rules. It was bark beetle kill. You had a tarp for six months or whatever. I think you had a tarp for a season. But I knew a guy that heated wood. He goes, any wood that's just pulled out, I want to tarp it and cure it for a season because then it will get all the moisture out and it will keep my chimney cleaner.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Yeah, I know. I mean, as kids, we did – I mean, my dad heated his home, our home, I should say, most winters by doing exactly what we're talking about, John. And we would make, I don't know, two or three different trips every year. you know, up to the mountains, different areas where there was big beetle kill and you could, you know, log those things. And we'd take, you know, trailer and a truck. And sometimes there'd be a group of us that would go up and, you know, do some of that. And, you know, before you know it, a lot of those areas got really cleaned and thinned out and it helped with the beetle kill and the tender that was there. Look at our forest now and how much beetle kills up there that's just standing.
SPEAKER 09 :
They're a mess, John. And it's so bad because you want to go out and, you know, I wrote a letter a couple of years ago to, uh, my congresswoman and the senators, there's a forest road in Wyoming that goes out to the Big Sandy Trailhead. And this is one of the most famous trailheads because it goes into the Cirque of the Towers. I don't know if you've ever heard of that. It's like one of those, if you look it up, it's one of those bucket list places that everybody wants to hike into. John, if you were still hiking, I'd say this is the most beautiful backpack you would ever do. You get it. I mean, magnificent. But the forest road was in such bad shape to go nine miles took almost an hour. Wow. And I wrote my representatives, and they said, well, the Forest Service says they don't have the funding. Well, all forest roads are fire roads. And you're telling me they don't have the funding where if that forest, and there was a lot of dead stuff in there, goes up, the fire engines and the fire trucks, guys and the wildland fire guys are going to take an hour to get to a trailhead.
SPEAKER 06 :
And really quick, John, the whole funding thing just irks me when I hear that excuse. It's like, okay, wait a minute. We can fund sex change operations for the military. We can run DEI all throughout government. We can fund this. We can fund that. We can spend billions of dollars on Ukraine, but we can't take care of some of what you and I are talking about, which at the end of the day, again, saves homes, property, and lives.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and even if, well, I don't know if you saw that Bill Maher thing from Friday night, his intro. He said that the 2020 fire that they had, they did a study in 22, destroyed all the carbon savings that they did over the previous 20 years in just one fire season. Yeah. wouldn't you think the environmentalists that want to save the planet would want to stop the carbon from the forest fires?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, because really, let's face it, John, at the end of the day, as we've said many times, it's the goal of these environmental groups to, by the way, not save the planet in emissions or any of that, any way, shape, or form. It's their goal to eliminate you and I. I mean, let's face it, at the end of the day, They don't care if every one of those homes gets burned down, because in their world, that's a win, because now most of those people won't rebuild, they'll move out, and or an Agenda 21 project comes in instead, and that's just what they'd rather have anyways. So yeah, that's their end goal.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I guarantee that half of those houses that burned down in California don't get rebuilt, because people aren't going to be able to rebuild them.
SPEAKER 06 :
I would agree with you. In fact, John, I would go as far as to say if a third get rebuilt, I'll be surprised.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I would too. Well, how many houses of the ones that were destroyed in Louisville two years ago are the Marshall Fire?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, as I drive through there, it's a third to a half roughly, and there's some areas where hardly anything has been done.
SPEAKER 09 :
And it's because, one, and you talk about it, underinsured, or they looked at it and they don't want to do it. Come on, every year you remember growing up, there was at least two good wind storms going through Boulder. Oh, absolutely, if not more. If not more, but you've got to prepare for it like today. It wasn't windy. It was just bitter cold. This cold front's moving out. It's blowing 40 miles an hour outside right now because the wind's going to come up when it does that, and the Rocky Mountains make it worse. That's right. The downslope on the mountains.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 09 :
So when you buy or live in a place like that, The people of Boulder County should have insisted that you've got to maintain those open spaces, but they just let it grow wild, didn't they?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's what they wanted. The majority of those people love that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and then they lost their house.
SPEAKER 06 :
They lost everything.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. They lost everything, and they want the government to come and help. That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've got to run, John. No, good conversation. I'll get one more call squeezed in here before we've got to run. Jeff, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, how you doing?
SPEAKER 06 :
Good, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good, good. Yeah, just you guys talking about the one that's got my high chap a little bit. He's talking about the funding and everything. And I don't know if you've been up, but I'm working up to the casinos, right? You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 06 :
I go up there.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know the bike path that we've got in there? Have you seen that thing?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yes, I have.
SPEAKER 10 :
And it comes down. I wonder how much money Jeffco has spent on that.
SPEAKER 06 :
A lot.
SPEAKER 10 :
I really do, because you, a lot. A lot of them. A lot. You know what I mean? And that is just... You know what I mean? Because you can see the... The funding issue, oh, we don't have the money.
SPEAKER 06 :
We don't have the money to do what we need to do forest-wise, but we can build that. And again, Jeff, here's my point on that. If we want to do that and there's funding for it after these other things are done, build your dang bike path. I could really care less. If you've got all the roads fixed, if you've got everything all dialed in as far as that goes, if you've got the forest taken care of and managed, fine. Build your bike path. The problem is we're not doing those other things.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, we're not. And the thing that's sad, too, is that the people that do work up, I hadn't worked up there for quite a few years. I've been doing the auto detail and stayed away, but I just picked up a gig up there. I do the pit boss, you know what I mean? I've been doing it for years. But I've been talking to these guys, and I'm lucky. I go up early in the morning, so I'm not getting in the traffic or whatever. But these guys that have been working up there for all these last three, four years now, I mean, it's a traffic, just what a nightmare. I mean, it adds an hour, at least an hour or more, you know, to your commute is this bike path. And it's just, it's lame. And they don't have, and they're not putting in an extra lane or anything, right? They wouldn't put in it or a train or something that everybody can use. You know what I mean? But no, we want to put in a bike path. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, they expect everybody to hop on one of those buses going up and back, which, by the way, Jeff, I see a lot of those roll up and down that are lucky to be half full.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's my other issue. I mean, again, to your point and to John's point, and, you know, we can go backwards and, you know, all the way back to Ben's point. The reality is we spend money as a country on all sorts of things that frankly, at the end of the day, don't benefit the citizenry at all. And yet don't do things that we should be doing that would benefit us. Yeah. That's our problem. Our priorities are out of whack is our problem.
SPEAKER 10 :
We've got to take and learn from California on this, man. I, I had a friend. I lost a friend in this fire, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
I did.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have a buddy. Two different houses I lived in, yeah, went down.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, as a side note, Jeff, I think, you know, in this state, not to tell the next person running for governor in the state of Colorado on our side, but I think you could take a lot of what just happened in California. It's going to be fresh in people's minds over the next couple of years. You could literally run on that single issue in Colorado and probably win if you did it correctly.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think so. We need to, especially for our people here in Jeffco, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
Peterson, whoever the gal is, I mean, it just, oh, man, it is. We have to learn from these. Because our forests are exactly like theirs. Yes, they are. They're different. I mean, obviously different trees, but I worked up in those hills in the land survey and stuff, and I saw the chaparral. I lived in Malibu for like seven years doing land surveying. And the amount of brush and everything, it is. People are not, this is fact. I mean, the brush up there was so dry. Yep. And it's little sticks, you know what I mean? That's right. Millions of little sticks is what it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And people wonder, well, how can that little bit of, you know, sort of like what happened in Louisville and Superior and those areas, you know, how can those field fires, quote unquote, you know, how can they light, you know, my house on fire? Well, it's a spark. by the way, is all it takes in ember. And when you get the wind blowing like it does, and all it takes is one little area of one neighborhood to start burning, Jeff, with 100 mile an hour winds, and pretty soon it goes house to house to house to house. That's how it works.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. And you alluded to a point I heard you the other day, Todd, because you went through this. You lost a home. And you say, and this is, I didn't think of this, but you are On point, you say a lot of times it's the wind gets going and a window breaks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's looking for oxygen.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because the heat or whatever in the house burns from the inside out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely, it burns from the – yeah, and you see pictures and things of that, and we don't talk near enough about that, not that there's a lot you can do. I mean, that's just what the fire does. It's seeking oxygen. It gets its way in any way it can, open door, something that blows through, a window that breaks, whatever the case may be, and boom, now it's burning from the inside out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly right. We've got to get better at getting these forests. Thanks, buddy.
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Force can obviously be a weapon, but policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, The World Economic Forum's agenda that rolls into the globalist elites agenda, the United Nations agenda. And you see this then being played out, the Colorado state legislature, the Colorado governor, many local and county governments here in Colorado as well. the World Health Organization, which we're not a member of, yay, but also land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, et cetera. The list has been going on and on. We're gonna start to see that list roll back. At this particular point in time, we can pull off the World Health Organization for us in America because Donald Trump has pulled us out of that. So that's pretty amazing. Check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. And the show comes to you Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m. live. And then the first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And then you can find the shows at my website and just click on the image and it'll bring up the written summary as well as the podcast. And then podcasts can be heard on Spotify and iTunes. So we are everywhere. So let's see, let's get into it. First thing, I'll get to the word of the day, our quote of the day, but then there's all kinds of headlines to talk about. The word of the day is profundity. It's P-R-O-F-U-N-D-I-T-Y. And it's the quality of showing a clear and deep understanding of serious manners matters or number two, it could be a remark or thought that shows or is intended to show great understanding. So profundity, I would say that President Donald Trump and what he is pushing through his administration is. He has a tremendous profundity of the seriousness of the issues that America is facing right now. And day one, he has started to work to get all that turned around. Our quote of the day, I went to Martin Luther King Jr. because Inauguration Day was on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, We were certainly focused on the inauguration of Donald Trump, and I did not pull a Martin Luther King Jr. quote yesterday, so I thought I'd do it today. And he was born in 1929. He died in 1968. And I think many of you know his father, they changed their name. They added – they changed it to – Martin Luther. I think they added in Luther. So Martin Luther King Jr., and he was a pastor as well. I think that's important to realize as well. So anyway, he was born in 1929. He died in 1968. He was an American Baptist minister, activist, and political philosopher. He was one of the most prominent leaders in the civil rights movement from 1955 until his assassination in 1968. And And he advanced civil rights for people of color or, as my good friend Cain would say, of Negroes in the United States through the use of nonviolent resistance and nonviolent civil disobedience against Jim Crow laws. Remember, these were laws. They were not constitutional. They did not adhere to this vision of the Declaration that all men are created equal, but yet they were laws. And then it says in other forms of legalized discrimination. And this is what he said. He said, be the best of whatever you are. That's what we need to be teaching our kids. And merit, we're seeing merit will be brought back to the military in the Donald Trump administration as well. And that falls right into one of these headlines. And that is... Trump removes the Coast Guard commandant because her focus was on all of this DEI stuff, this diversity, equity, inclusion, instead of merit. And so we're going to see merit come back to America. That is what's made America great, is people doing their best and seeing what could happen. And, of course, America happened, this amazing big – Big middle class where everyday people could, can't, could and can thrive and prosper. And so, again, this is from Reuters. The Trump administration fired the U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Admiral Linda Lee Fagan, the first female uniformed leader of an armed forces branch. The Department of Homeland Security said on Tuesday, I find it so interesting just on this DEI. For example, she was a DEI hire. The radical activist Democrats say that they can't really tell that there's more than two genders, but yet they're focused on gender here. And so anyway, former President Joe Biden nominated Fagan to lead the Coast Guard, which is responsible for maritime security in 2021. And she is no longer the commandant there. So we'll talk about many of the other things that Donald Trump is doing as well. I think we'll talk about the bill of the day. On Wednesdays, we're going to have one of my fellow CUT board members call in, and we'll do some commentary on the legislation that is being proposed down at the Statehouse. And tomorrow evening, we are hosting our legislator kickoff. and legislative kickoff. That will be at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association, which is located at 290 East Speer in Denver. Lucy had texted me a question, what about parking there? Parking is right next to the building and it doesn't cost anything. So I know that there's concern sometimes to go into Denver, but at CADA, great parking, very well lit, right next to the building. And so do join us. It's $10. You can go to the Colorado Union of Taxpayers website, which is coloradotaxpayer.org. Tickets are only $10. And while you're there, be sure and join us. To join us, it's only $25 per year. And for $2.08 a month, you're going to receive the emails with the analysis of hours and hours of volunteer time. to analyze legislation down at the State House as it affects taxpayers, which is all of us, TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayer Bill of Rights, property rights, and school choice. Those are some of the many things that we focus on. But when you see my fellow volunteer board members, say thank you to them. That is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, and Corey Onusorg. Be sure and say thank you to them for all of their hard work. Let's see, lots of headlines. I think the next one, you probably have all seen this, but it's like you have to hold on to your hat. Because there is so much that is going on. And again, this is from Reuters. And the headline is you're fired. Trump tells Biden appointees who many of them say that they already quit. I'm not sure that they got got in front of him, but they want to say that. And so Trump said that he plans to remove over 1000 of former President Joe Biden's appointees from their government positions and that he had fired four individuals immediately, including celebrity chef Jose Andres and former top general Mark Milley. And also headlines are that Mark Milley's photograph or not photograph, his portrait has been taken down at the Pentagon as well. And you're fired, Trump wrote in an early morning post on his Truth Social platform that named Millie Andres, his former Iran envoy Brian Hook, and former Atlanta mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, who Biden had appointed to an export council. So that is pretty amazing. Let's see. Next thing I wanted to read, Eric's text with Manning's famous burritos. Yesterday, he had texted me and I had meant to say this and I had missed it. He said, those in the deep state media that are so obsessed in calling President Donald Trump a felon are actually felons themselves. They've just not been convicted. And he says that's one that we could use. And he's right. And remember those those that conviction for Donald Trump regarding so that they could call him a felon. If you do the research on it, they say it was 34 counts. They are all accounting entries. And I imagine he didn't even know what those accounting entries were when you when you look at how big his operation is. But good point on that, Eric. He always has really good things to say about all this happening out there. And let's see a couple other other headlines that I wanted to mention. was that Trump orders all DEI government offices to close up shop by the end of the day, which that is pretty amazing. And then yesterday I did go down to the press presser for John and Aaron Lee and their their press conference regarding their court case against the Poudre Valley School District. And their daughter, the whole story, you can find that at artclubmovie.com, which they worked with Kevin Lundberg on producing that particular movie. And anyway, their case, and it's another family as well, was heard in district court yesterday. and talked with Erin afterwards. We're going to get her on the show for an update next week. But they hope that they can get this to the Supreme Court, where government-run schools cannot be doing this transgender indoctrination and all of that agenda without parents' knowledge. So it's a very important court case, and good for them for their good work on that. So they are And they are working on that and did meet their daughter who was the victim. Initially, I don't want to say victim, who was the target. Let's put it that way, the target of this agenda. 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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can do that at Kim Munson dot com. And thank you to all of you who support us. I greatly appreciate all of you. So pleased to have on the line with me, Dave Evans. Dave is a listener of the show and he is a new member of the board of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers Association. or also known as CUT. And again, our legislative kickoff is tomorrow evening at CADA, Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. We'd love to have you join us. Tickets are only $10. And also we'd love to have you join us as members as well so that you get that weekly email that we send to the governor and legislators regarding positions on legislation so that you can be informed and be active in what is happening. Dave Evans, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you, Kim. Good morning to you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, good morning. It's great to have you. And I'm so thrilled to have you be a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers Board. You're new. You jumped in. We did our first email and now I sent out our first email on our analysis this last Monday. So first of all, Dave, tell us why you stepped forward to volunteer to do this, because it's so important.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I've lived in Colorado all my life. And watched the state turn bluer and bluer and bluer and felt like there was nothing I could do about it. But then the opportunity to join the union of taxpayers came up and I said, well, that sounds real interesting. Maybe I could help out doing it that way.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and we are thrilled to have you. So we have done our first week of analysis, and we used this software, BuildTrack 50. I had a few little challenges, and Karen and I got that figured out. She actually is the creator of that. She used to live in Denver. She lives in London. So with the time difference, we had to work things out. But I think that we've got it. But it's a really... great piece of technology to watch what's happening. And I think you've done a really good job of navigating it. So what do you think about BuildTrack 50?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I agree. It's a great program. Very easy to use, actually. You just have to find the right column to write in. And it's just like entering your text in Word or something like that. Very simple and easy to use.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the other thing is it's a tool...
SPEAKER 05 :
I was going to say, I have to say that when I started out, I fumbled around a little bit, but, you know, after a few minutes of that, I figured it out pretty readily, so.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the other thing about it, Dave, is that we can actually see all of the bills that have been proposed already. There's 154 bills that have been proposed. And then what we do is when they're scheduled for hearing, that is when we then send that out to the team for analysis. And then the other thing that we did is... I asked Karen to with the key words to let us know if there's something, for example, with energy or firearms, these gifts, grants and donations where that might be in a piece of legislation, which that means that interested parties could come in and actually put money behind donations. law, which I think is a real problem. And then, of course, the safety clause. So great stuff. Also Tabor. I put in transgender activism. We've got and vaccine related. So we're really watching all of those things closely. So for analysis this last week, we did analysis on Actually, you guys all did more bills because I had manually pulled bills into rate and then the Senate changed their calendar. So we'll be including those bills probably next week. But was there one particular bill that jumped out at you that you in particular wanted to talk about regarding the six bills that we looked at this week?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, after looking over our analysis, I think that first one on our list, SB 25005, is probably the biggest stinker of them all. It's really just a sop for the Democratic Party and a sop for the unions designed to make it harder for employers in this state, make it more expensive for people, and it's going to hurt employment, too.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and that is, it's titled Worker Protection Collective Bargaining, and what it's doing, from what I can tell, Dave, is normally if workers were going to unionize, that there would have to be two votes to do so, and this gets rid of that second vote, so it really does give unions much more power.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, yes, it'll, things will become much more unionized, and and much harder for employers to keep costs down.
SPEAKER 13 :
And it's it's difficult. It's getting more and more difficult to run a business in Colorado as it is. I remember I think it was the Colorado or CU lead school of business. We used to be in the in the in the tops regarding economic growth. We're down to 40, 41st now in Colorado. And it's because, Dave, of what's happening down at the statehouse.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Well, we used to be pretty well governed in almost every aspect, and now we're terrible. Utah spends a lot less money than we do, and they're a whole lot better governed than we are. Yeah, we're just going downhill in a hurry, and I sure hope the electorate wakes up and sees what's going on.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and that's why we're doing this now. I always like to give credit where credit is due. The prime sponsors on this Senate Bill 25005, which is really the union bill, is Senator Robert Rodriguez, Senator Jesse Danielson, Representative Javier Mabray, and Representative Jennifer Bacon. So, Dave Evans, another one that we did this week is the Third Party Administration of the Division of Housing Programs, House Bill 25-1019. And its short summary is concerning third-party administration. of programs for persons experiencing homelessness that are overseen by the Division of Housing and the Department of Local Affairs. And we came out with a no on that. The sponsors, prime sponsors on that are Representative Emily Sirota and Senator Nick Hendrickson. And I think that this is also a very bad bill, moving something into third-party administration. This is where we really get into interest of parties, government, cronyism is what I think about that. What do you think?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I agree. It's completely inappropriate to have outside contractors administering state programs. Plus, they'll have to pay these contractors something, and that's going to come out of the program, and so it's going to reduce funding for the actual program, which means that next year they're going to say, oh, gee, we need more money for this, and it'll come out of the taxpayer's hide.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the other thing is, though, the agency, if I understand it correctly, will still get some percentage to administer this to send it over to the third party. Did I catch that correctly?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think that's right, yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
And and tomorrow evening, Dave, we're going to have our legislative event, our legislative kickoff, and we will be very pleased to present our awards to our Colorado taxpayers, guardian and our champion, our guardians and our warriors. And that's tomorrow evening. 530 to 6 is the Mix and Mingle. The program begins at 6 at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. I think it's going to be a really great evening, Dave Evans.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think so, too. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for putting this together, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we've got a great board, people that care deeply about our state. And Dave, we are just really thrilled to have you as our new board member. And it's a lot of analysis, but I think we each have to do our part to reclaim our state. I'm pleased to see what's happening at the national level. with Donald Trump with his regulatory freeze. But what I think is going to happen here in Colorado is this legislature and then many of our local and county governments are going to double down on this bigger and bigger government agenda. And as Dennis Prager says, when government gets bigger, the individual gets smaller. Well, America, Dave, was founded on this idea of the individual having all this liberty to go after their hopes and dreams. And you can't have both. You can't have big government and people going after their hopes and dreams. So we need to reclaim that for Colorado as well, Dave Evans.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, that's being taken away from us.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, Dave Evans, I'm excited. We will see you tomorrow evening. And thank you for jumping in and being on the radio with me. And thank you for listening. I greatly appreciate you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you're welcome, and thank you. It was an honor, and I sure appreciate all you're doing. You're really doing the yeoman's work on this. Thank you.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And I did want to mention our quote of the day. I chose a quote from Martin Luther King, Jr., And a great quote that we have from him and Mark, one of our listeners said, we should continue to point out the DEI, this diversity, equity and inclusion is the exact opposite of what Martin Luther King Jr. fought and died for. judging people by their... He fought for judging people by their character, not by their skin color. And Mark goes on to say, MLK fought to eliminate Jim Crow laws, not to create new laws. Equal treatment, not special treatment. He's absolutely right. We say it on the show all the time. You can't have equal... I'm paraphrasing now. You can't have special treatment and And not have equal treatment. So he's right on that. The quote from Martin Luther King Jr. is be the best of whatever you are. Please have on the line with me my friend Scott Powell. He is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. And he's written a couple of really important pieces that we wanted to chat with him about. And the first one is regarding the Donald Trump administration and. This populist mandate that is bringing on our second American Revolution. And I've actually said that we're in our third founding of our country. And that was, first of all, we had the founding, then we had the Civil War, and now. Scott Powell, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Kim, wonderful to be with you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Good to have you. And it is remarkable. You just also published a piece about all of these executive orders. There's been a flurry. I think flurry would be the correct word, Scott Powell.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think last count it was over 200 in the first 12 hours. That's clearly a world record.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I don't really want us to be governed by executive order. However, there are so many things that need to be rolled back immediately. And because if we don't get those done, then it will just take too much time to try to get a bunch of this bad stuff rolled back. And a number of those executive orders was rolling back things that Joe Biden had done as executive order. So I think it is pretty important.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, absolutely. It's important to get the Trump administration off to a very strong and quick start, you might say. Shock and awe is the name of the game and the order of the day.
SPEAKER 13 :
It really is. So let's talk about these pieces that you have recently published. This first one is at Newsmax, and it's the populist mandate brought the second American revolution. And we are clearly in historic times, Scott Powell.
SPEAKER 07 :
These are very exciting times, really. And I know that many of your audience, and I'm included in that group, really was upset when Donald Trump was deprived of a second term in 2020. We saw that there was massive voting irregularity, election irregularity, vote fraud. And we were all on board with trying to get that corrected. Of course, it came to naught. And so Joe Biden, and that led to, of course, January 6th, that was then used really against the patriot cause, if you will. It certainly was not an insurrection, but it was, it was, we got played on that. Anyway, we know what happened. Joe Biden's administration got installed and Donald Trump was out of office for four years, but, and we, we wrung our hands over that, but perhaps, you know, the hand of God had a different plan. And the plan was, to allow the American people to really see the results of an evil and demonic government, what it could do, the harm it could do, the disruption, the damage it could create. And that's what we witnessed in the last four years. Meanwhile, Donald Trump was preparing for his second term. He was studying – the landscape, if you will, and coming up with a battle plan. And many people thought he could not come back, and yet he did. And now he's having his second term. He's the 47th president of the United States. And he will be far more effective in leading America now than he would have been had he had a consecutive term. So none of us planned that. None of us could really see that. But the right thing has happened, and I feel it's almost providential that things happened the way that they did because now the people are really ready, and that's why they voted overwhelmingly. We had a popular – a big popular majority that put him back into office – Which makes him a more powerful leader, and we have the House and the Senate supporting him. We had a trifecta, really. We wouldn't have had – we didn't have a trifecta. Four years ago.
SPEAKER 13 :
So, Scott, a couple of things. You mentioned January 6th. And I was talking with a young person last year on January 6th because January 6th has been painted by the mainstream media as an insurrection against our country. But we've all seen the videos of people, just regular people that are just walking through the Capitol. They're staying on the carpet. They're in between the cordoned off area. They're walking where they're supposed to, looking around. But this young person said to me that they knew that the narrative was being manipulated when you saw that picture of the horned guy that was in the inner chambers and the Capitol Police were just walking behind him. And I thought that that was that I think that's important to to bring out so that people understand how that narrative was manipulated, as you mentioned, against against those that really wanted to reclaim our country. And then you mentioned one other thing regarding the questions on the election. And in in let's see, I had this here in 2020. Joe Biden apparently received 81 million votes, plus a little bit, to Donald Trump's 74 million votes. But in 2024, I think it was about 76 million votes for Donald Trump and around 74 million for Kamala Harris. One has to ask, where did all those Biden voters go, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. They were not real voters. The ballot boxes, the drop boxes, and the after-hours vote counting were all – many of them were phony ballots. And so that the – for instance, I believe in Pennsylvania more people voted than they had registered voters. And that was true in some other jurisdictions as well. So there really was a massive vote fraud, and of course it was all part of the plan really. I think that they recognized that the conditions due to COVID were such that the Democrat lawyer operatives could get the voting protocols and the voting laws changed and they focused on the swing states, remember, so that they got extended period for voting. They got allowing the use of drop boxes that was funded by Mark Zuckerberg in Wisconsin and Georgia and elsewhere. But there was a plan to, you know, Steal the election, literally. And these 86 million votes, there's no way that Joe Biden got 86 million votes. The man didn't campaign. He was an unimpressive, very unimpressive guy. And so – It is what it is, but, you know, the Bible says that God— And just clarification, they said it was 81 million, just a clarification.
SPEAKER 13 :
81 million, okay. About 6 million more. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but where did all that go? But go ahead. You said the Bible says?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I was just pointing out that the Bible says that God uses all things for good. So who would have guessed that these circumstances— would be used for this great outcome that we now have. But they have been used, and they were used almost in a way that transcends our ability to have orchestrated it. We certainly didn't orchestrate the demise of the Democrat Party. They orchestrated their own demise with all the things they did with open borders, with you know, reducing energy production, uh, inflation, uh, you know, so many things happened in the last four years that really turned, uh, that opened the American people's eyes to the state of affairs that America had come to. And they said, no, we need to correct this. And, uh, and so we had this great victory, uh, last November five. And, um, And Trump has got a popular mandate, not just an electoral college victory, but a popular victory. So we have much to be grateful for. We really do.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, so Scott Powell, several things. We need to, you mentioned elections. We need to get to the point where votes are counted on Election Day and that is it. What we saw afterwards with this extension of counting votes for some of these House seats, for these Senate seats, that's a real problem.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think we need to get that changed. It is, and it'll be interesting to see how we pull this off. I think we're going to get it done. But the Constitution allows for states to control the voting protocols that they – each state has the responsibility for establishing the voting – rules and regulations. So there's really, there's not a national, you know, the Constitution doesn't provide for the national, the federal government for, you know, establishing voting protocols. That's a state responsibility. Many states have brought about reform, but we definitely need what you've just described, Kim. And I do think that Somehow it's going to happen. The American people are behind voting ID. Everybody should have an idea to vote. They are all in favor of one-day voting. They're in favor of paper ballots, I believe, because people know that other countries that – like France. France is a big country, and they get – they don't have any problems with their national votes. They use paper ballots. It's all done in one day. They know the results by late the night of the election. And we in Florida – I live in Florida. We know the results by 10 o'clock at night. Our system is very efficient. We don't just use paper ballots, though. We have a mail-in ballot protocol here. But all the ballots have to be in by Election Day.
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Yeah, and that's really important. And Colorado has a really extended voting time, about three weeks. And we need to compress that. Ideally, I'd love to compress that down to one day. I'm talking with Scott Powell, and we were talking about this piece that he's written about. It's in Newsmax regarding this populist mandate of the Donald Trump administration and what that actually means. And these are such important discussions. They come to you because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Two nonprofits that I love and support on the show. One is the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado and on the Riverwalk. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because four Medal of Honor recipients grew up there. And so they have these beautiful portraits of valor and they're going to have a great event tomorrow evening. 4 o'clock is their On Values presentation regarding the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive during the Vietnam War and held by the North Koreans for over a year. Robert Chico was a crew member on that ship, and he's going to be talking about his experiences. And so you can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. And just let them know that you're going to be attending, and it doesn't cost anything, and they normally have a nice little reception afterwards. And then also the USMC Memorial Foundation is raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial, which is right here in Colorado. and you can get more information to support them by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I'm talking with Scott Powell. He is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, and we're talking about this piece that he's written at Newsmax regarding the populist mandate of Donald Trump. And, again, we're trying to clarify the numbers. It's reported that Biden received a little over $81 million Votes in 2020, Trump about 74 million. And then Trump in 2024 received 77 plus million votes. Harris, 75 million. And again, and thank you, Eric, for making sure that we had that clarified. where did those approximate six million votes go? And that is a question I think people have to really ask. And I think what happens, Scott Powell, is work that we did here in Colorado with our Colorado 2024 Election Project, people all over the country watching these elections i think that that was key as people across america were doing things to watch these elections to try to make sure that we had a free fair honest transparent election there were still things that occurred but um they were not over those nefarious things did not overcome that the outcome of the national election that's right uh and um and it was um a great day um
SPEAKER 07 :
It was a great day on November 5, and what a great day on the Inauguration Day just two days ago. There's such optimism now, optimism that I've really not seen in a long time. It's very – we're living in historic, really biblical times. This is perhaps – Donald Trump is going to be – the 47th president is perhaps going to be the most consequential president in all of our history, with the exception, of course, perhaps of our early – our first president. Of course, the first president had no precedent. It was the creation of a new nation and a new government. But in the last 245 years – And isn't it amazing that Donald Trump, having the second term when he does, that he, like Grover Cleveland, has had unconsecutive terms. He skipped four years and then came back, that he's going to be the president at the time of the great celebration of the 250th anniversary of our country, of our constitution. You know, 2026 is 250 years after 1776, and so it'll be a – it's an incredible time in which to be alive, I must say. It's – I'm still getting used to – still getting used to it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it is. It's a remarkable time. And I have said this, and one of our listeners, Eric, said, Kim, I know that you say that Donald Trump is not our savior. Let me get to where he's at. But he said, with all of these executive orders, it looks close. And I agree. I agree. These things that he's doing – and I know that there are those even on the – that are on the right had said that they had some concerns about Donald Trump and things that he might do when he came into office. But I love the fact in his inaugural address and then what you saw on that first day is he said that he's going to adhere to the Constitution. And he gave credit to God on many occasions. And I think he's got his priorities in the right place. And I really am encouraged that he is going to be doing things that he can do constitutionally and adhere to the Constitution. Your thoughts, Scott Powell?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, as I said in the Newsmax article published last week, this second American revolution that we're in right now is really – a moral and spiritual revolution. And isn't it, it's just remarkable that Donald Trump, who is not thought of as a, you know, he's a businessman. He was a commercial real estate magnate. He accomplished great things in a very difficult industry. He's You might call him a bit of a rough diamond, but that's what was required for him to be successful. But he is a remarkable patriot. I can't think of a leader that we've had who has more patriotism than Donald Trump. And isn't that the most important qualification to be the leader of America is a great patriot? And we have this remarkable – yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Go ahead. Well, and the term patriot, the left to try to sully that that word patriot, but patriot isn't this bravado. Patriot is love of country. And I agree with you. He has this amazing love of country. We've got a couple of minutes left, but I want to make sure that I do mention your book, which is so important, Rediscovering America, How the National Holidays Tell an Amazing Story About Who We Are. And everyone should have this book at home on their Freedom Library for sure, Scott Powell. So we've got a couple of minutes left. How do you want to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, regarding Rediscovering America, I purposely wrote the book – … for American people, and American people are very busy. They don't have time to read books, and typically history genre books are long. They tend to be long books. This is a short book. It's just a little over 200 pages, and it's written with chapters that each tell a standalone story about the transitional periods of American history. If you read – Rediscovering America tells you pretty much everything you need to know about America… and why we have been the greatest nation in world history. There's no country like America. America was born on these amazing ideas of equal value, of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. We were born out of ideas. We weren't born out of a blood lineage or the spoils of war or a common culture or common language as other nations have been formed. We were born out of these great ideas and this Second American Revolution that we're in right now is a restoration of those ideas, a restoration of constitutional law, law and order. It's a restoration of putting America's interests first. The founders recognized that if America could establish a country that would be exemplary to the world… It would be a great gift to the world. It would show the way to the rest of the world, and we would be a city on a hill. And that is what the America First movement also recognizes, that if we become an exemplary nation, other countries will move in our direction. In other words, we don't have to go out and change regimes overseas like we've been doing, being overly involved in foreign affairs. We take care of our own country. and we create the opportunity environment for people to flourish, they will flourish. So it's a great day that we have, and I'm very excited about the time in which we're living.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. Scott Powell, thank you so much. We will talk again very soon, and keep up the great work.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Kim.
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And our quote for the end of the show, Martin Luther King Jr. said, if you can't fly, then run. If you can't run, then walk. If you can't walk, then crawl. But whatever you do, you have to keep moving forward. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. As we're talking with Scott Powell, we are in an amazing time in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. And Producer Joe, you shared great optimism yesterday with – you'd watched or had it on basically all day on Inauguration Day to watch what was going on. And what's your take after day number two of the Trump administration?
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I'm still optimistic. I think – He hit the ground running really well, and it's going to take time, just like everything else. It doesn't fix overnight, and we've got to keep this battle going.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we really do. And we're really at the forefront, I think, here in Colorado. So what I see is the radical activists, extremists are going to double down and try to stay a little bit under the radar, if you will, from a national level. but then doing the subversion at these other levels. And so we need to be engaged even more in this battle of ideas. That's why we do the show, is so that you can get your brain around these issues and engage in this battle of ideas. And be sure and check everything out that we're doing at KimMunson.com. You can sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. The text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice. Watch that. What that means is, is I purchased my airtime, but that gives me total freedom in subject selection, guest selection. And so thank you for supporting that. And of course, all of our sponsors make that happen as well, such as Laramie Energy. I appreciate their goal sponsorship of the show. It's that reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to control our own personal climate, to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And that whole thing is under attack. And we have to ask why. Because the fact that everyday people can thrive and prosper is really this big, great American idea. And that certainly has been under attack. So, anyway, it's important that we have these discussions, and we have them every Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m., with the first hour rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night, and that's on all KLZ 560 platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And you can find our podcast of the show at my website. Just click on the image of the show and that'll bring up the written summary as well as the podcast. And then podcasts can be heard Spotify and iTunes as well. And we look at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Uh, let's see regarding, Oh, our word of the day. We need to get to all of these things here is a profundity and it is P R O F U N D I T Y. And your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. And it could be the quality of showing a clear and deep understanding of serious matters. I think with, uh, the day one of the Trump administration with the executive orders to roll back all of these terrible things that have been happening in our country because of the Biden-Harris administration, that Donald Trump has a deep profundity of the seriousness of all that's going on here. And so your challenge is to use the word profundity in a sentence today. Our quote of the day is from Martin Luther King Jr. He was born in 1929. He died in 1968. And he was an American Baptist minister, activist, political philosopher, and a prominent leader in the civil rights movement from 1955 until his assassination in 1968. And he pushed for the advancement for – in Wikipedia it says people of color. My friend Cain wants to reclaim the word Negro in the United States through the use of nonviolent resistance and nonviolent civil disobedience against Jim Crow laws and other forms of legalized discrimination. And Mark, one of our listeners, had said – Let's see here. The civil rights movement was twisted by the wicked ones. The new civil rights laws were unnecessary. Totally agree. And then those civil rights laws have also been twisted to push forward this transgender activist movement. And Mark goes on to say that DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion policies, which those are really about dividing people, putting them into... different groups according to their their race or their gender uh we're born during the civil rights movement and he's absolutely correct and um one of the sound bites that we pull from the show that we have is you cannot have equal rights if you have special rights And that's whether or not it's remember the Equal Rights Amendment that Biden apparently got confused and thought that that actually was part of the Constitution. It's not because if you have special rights for people, you cannot have equal rights. And so that is so important to understand that. Anyway, his quote, let me share that with you, is be the best of whatever you are. So every day when we talk about striving for excellence, be the very best that you can be and strive for excellence. And it's a very important point. I didn't talk about this in the first hour, this day in history, because as we've added in the bill of the day, we won't be focusing quite as much on this day in history. However, there were these different weather events that I thought were important to note because we've always had weather. The climate has always changed. And this whole narrative of climate change has been weaponized to basically bankrupt uh everyday people bankrupt america and that is why this uh documentary a climate conversation which is the project of walt johnson is so important to understand this narrative i talked with a friend of mine just the other day and she said kim i think that is is one of the best documentaries regarding this particular subject in the way that it was handled And so you can watch that for free at a climate conversation dot com. And then we also have created a great podcast series with a number of great scientists and experts on this narrative as well. So you'll be very, very informed on that. But there had been the narrative that the world was going to freeze. And a little global warming would be a great idea. So these were some weather events. 1930, negative 35 degrees Fahrenheit at Mount Carroll, Illinois, which is a state record. 1943, 26.12 inches of precipitation over a 24-hour period in Hoagies Camp, California, state record. 1943, temperatures rise 49 degrees Fahrenheit in two minutes. In Spearfish, South Dakota, we had such an interesting change in temperature there that we talked about yesterday in South Dakota. A couple of other things. 1944, the Allied forces begin landing at Anzio in the Italian mainland. This 1973 was the decision by the U.S. Supreme Court legalizing most abortions in Roe v. Wade. authoring the majority opinion. Harry Blackmun states that the criminalization of abortion does not have roots in the English common law tradition. And, of course, that was overturned by our Supreme Court recently. Just a couple, let's see, well, some other weather events. 1982, 75% of North America is covered by snow. In 1985, negative 30 degrees Fahrenheit in Mountain Lake Biostation in Virginia, which is a state record. In 1985, cold wave damages 90% of Florida's citrus crop. And in 2016, a winter storm conditions strand 500 motorists for 24 hours in Somerset and Bedford counties, about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. And so the weather is always changing is the point that I want to make with all of these different things this day in history regarding weather. And this Green New Deal, what I've come to learn is the Green New Deal is the green that was going into PBI's pockets, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties. And day one, Donald Trump is turning all that around regarding the Green New Deal. And the money that Joe Biden promised, these millions and millions of dollars to these different green energy PBIs, hopefully that money will not be spent. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's that reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to control our own personal climates, to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And all of that is under all kinds of attack. And that's why it's important that we... Talk about these important issues, and in particular, those that have been under attack as the people that feed and fuel us. And Trent Luce, sixth-generation farmer and rancher, has been shedding light on these issues for over 25 years, and he is on the line. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 04 :
On the line, there are several interpretations of that, but it's a pleasure to be back with you, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, you've been busy. You've been out at the National Western. And I remember as a kid that it was always cold during the National Western, and we had a bit of a cold snap. And it makes those barns a little chilly out there, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and the bison were rolling in yesterday. The draft horses are rolling in, and the bison in particular, they are outside in normal environments, and that is going to be a very exciting show. There are 35 more bison here than there was last year, which I'm just going to go back to American buffalo.
SPEAKER 13 :
I like American buffalo. Why did they change the name? Why did that happen?
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Because India, the country in the world with the most bovine animals, has a huge population of water buffalo. And so some individuals within the American Buffalo Association thought, we want to make sure that nobody confuses us for the water buffalo of India. And so they started going with some bison instead of buffalo buffalo. Now, living on the Rosebud Indian Reservation for five years and working with tribal members who were owned and managed the buffalo herds on the tribes, the tribal folks still call them buffalo, not bison. Tatonka. Let us go with Tatonka.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so how does this work exactly at the National Western? They bring in different animals at different times. So last week, you were the emcee for the Beef and Wine Festival, which was... And they brought in four different cattle. And they were so beautiful at Trent Luce. And so how does this work? Because they can't have all the animals there at the same time. There's not enough room. So how does this work out at the National Western?
SPEAKER 04 :
So there's a rotation of animals by breed and what the purpose is that come in the first weekend. The first weekend was really geared towards commercial cattlemen. So there was commercial seminars about animal health strategies and genetic strategies and data collection and all of those things that have allowed us to eliminate some of the surprises, so to speak, in raising animals. But then once the commercial weekend concludes, the commercial cattlemen kind of move out. And then I said, each breed comes in. So Gelby breed was first. and then the limousine breed, and then you just rotate through all of the beef breeds, including Angus and Hereford, and the Red Angus and Charolais and Scimital and Maine Anjou. I'm really glad I started naming them, but I think I came up with, oh, no, the Scottish Highlanders are in now. But then once those cattle roll out, then this last weekend, you have the bison roll in. And so it's the same concept. I saw trailers unloading yesterday from Utah. Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Colorado. And it's breeders bringing animals of different ages and sizes because it's where you can come together and evaluate the genetics and maybe take home a new set of genetics that will improve your herd. And so that rotation is what keeps what we call in the yards just very fluid and and the cattle are outside, and the bison will never be haltered or shown like you think of. In terms of putting them on a halter and showing them, they're just going to be pinned loose, and you won't be allowed to go pet the bison. There will be much more distance than what you had at the Beef and Wine Festival from those four beautiful animals. But there's something so majestic about the buffalo. It's just pretty incredible if you think about where they've been and what they've done.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and then you said the draft horses as well. You talk about beautiful animals, and certainly they were the workhorses for many, many years. So those will be coming in as well, you said, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
They are coming in as well. In fact, a longtime dear friend, Joey, funny I would say that, Joey Friend, his name is Friend, From Elizabeth, Colorado, I believe he told me he's bringing six teams of horses in, so they'll have draft horse pulls, draft horse competition, and all of those are going to be in throughout the rest of the week. But the interesting thing about Running Creek Ranch, which is in Elizabeth, Colorado, is that they still feed all of their horses with a team every single day. So they're harnessing horses, and they're doing it what I'll call in the old way, Without a tractor, they're managing that ranch, and they've always had just a tremendous set of Belgians. I don't understand, and I had that conversation with Joey last week. I'm like, dude, the percherons are so much better. Why do you continue to have these subpar animals called Belgians? You know, friends jabbing one another.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, my. So this is very exciting. So you're here at the National Western. You said that you basically went home for just a few days, but you are out there. and really doing such amazing work, Trent Luce. But let's talk about some of these other things. While you were here, you gave some testimony at the Colorado Capitol. I thought it was the Senate committee, but when you and I were preparing, you said it was a joint committee that you presented at last week, and I assume you did that via Zoom. Is that right?
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I did not present. I showed up at the – this is the Joint Senate and House Committee on Energy and Environment, And it's one of the most frustrating things I've endured. And I've been a part of this political process. I know how frustrating it is. But what took place was the meeting was to begin at 11 o'clock, which it did. It started on time. I was in the committee room myself.
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Oh, okay.
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Each division within energy or environment made their presentations, and there was a schedule put forth, and the public comment period, which I had been asked to contribute to the public comment period, was scheduled to start at 3.50 on Thursday afternoon. So I sat there from 11 o'clock, and then it got to the point where they were an hour and 15 minutes behind. I had another live broadcast, so I literally had to leave the Capitol, get to another live broadcast, And my friend from Eastern Colorado, Richard Rubel was there and he did stay the whole time. And when there was time for public comment, there was actually three of them that stood up and wanted to have a say that were present in the room. You did have the option of doing it via Zoom, but I don't understand why you would not be present in the room and witness the body language and see all of the things that are taking place. And why it was frustrating to me, Kim, was the fact that all I heard from each one of the bureaucrats, from the director of energy, which I think was the worst, he didn't want to talk about anything other than the initiative to get Colorado to net carbon zero before California. That's the only thing that mattered to him. And I got to give a shout out to Representative Ken DeGroff from, I believe he's El Paso County.
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Right, right.
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He said, I don't understand why you sit there continuing to tell me that we need to get to net carbon zero when 65 percent of the buildings in downtown Denver are vacant. And we don't have businesses that can comply with what we're already putting in place as regulations. And you're not addressing that. You're not looking at what we can do to incentivize business entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs. You simply want to put up more hurdles to chase more business. And that to me was the theme of the entire event. And when I talked about the body language, you can see the members of this joint committee between the House and the Senate that agreed with him and that disagreed with him. And quite frankly, I only felt like there were two that were willing to take on the narrative that I witnessed. And that was Senator Pelton. from Logan County, and he represents a pretty big area of eastern Colorado, and then obviously Representative DeGroff from El Paso County. But otherwise, it's just like we're going to allow these bureaucrats to do everything other than what can we do to improve the business climate of Colorado and what can we do to improve the opportunity for a better life for our Colorado citizens. It was just very frustrating in that regard. And yeah, I wish I could have stayed and given my three minutes of testimony. And everybody should do that. At the end of the day, we know what kind of an impact it would have made, but at least it would have gotten some things on the record. But my point in all of that is, every time I've ever been a part of going to testify in front of a committee, and this would have been the sixth state capitol that I've been in, and my particular job was to talk about CO2 injections, which they walk through how they're going to do this in northeast Colorado. Anytime there's a public comment period, they start with that, and then they get to their scheduled presenters. And it was clear to me this particular committee did not want to. I'm sure it's a representation of what's happening in the Colorado capital every day. They did not want to hear from the constituents.
SPEAKER 13 :
And, yeah, it is a strategy that they use, Trent Luce. And was that Senator Rod Pelton? There's two Peltons. There's Byron Pelton and Rod Pelton. Which of them was it?
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm sure it's from Logan County. I'm sure it's Byron Pelton.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, okay. And just a quick note, this is a good time that I can mention the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. It's an all-volunteer group. I'm the president of this. We're going to have our legislative kickoff tomorrow evening, and we will be honoring our Colorado taxpayer champion, guardians, and warriors. And just a quick shout-out, and I think they're all going to be at the event, and that's Stephanie Luck, Kindergraf, who you just mentioned, scott bottoms kevin van winkle mark basely rod pelton ron weinberg brandy bradley and don wilson and so these are people that have really been standing up for you the taxpayer which is all of us and did did your friend tell you what time he finally was able to testify trent loose
SPEAKER 04 :
Richard did tell me, and they had moved up the time. It was not an actual hour and a half later. They shortened it up somehow. I did confirm myself. I was right. It was Byron Pelton from eastern Colorado.
SPEAKER 13 :
Great. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And he did not even get to testify either, but he stood up and was going to be one of the three. I don't know what happened there, but he said he did not testify either, and he sat there from 11 o'clock until 6 p.m. They do not want to hear from constituents.
SPEAKER 13 :
They don't. And it is a strategy. And I've seen that many, many times when I've been down at the Capitol as well. And so I think we need to use the Zoom link if we can't get down there because, Trent, you didn't clearly have the time. To sit there for all those hours and then not even get to testify because you had so much that you needed to do with all the media that you do. And so they know what they're doing. They know that people are busy and they play into that, I think.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree with you 100% and I feel like I witnessed it.
SPEAKER 13 :
You did. And I think, again, when I think you said the director of energy said that they want to outdo California, you can see that that's the fight that we have here in Colorado. So we're going to continue the discussion with Trent Luce. And we have these discussions because it's so important that we're in this battle of ideas. And I tell you, an industry that's under attack is the beef industry. It's under regulatory attack and legislative attack. And we have to ask why, because it's such a great protein source in our diets. And, of course, for a great treat, great protein in your diet and that steakhouse experience at home is Lavaca Meat Company.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And tomorrow there's two great events going on. First of all, we are having our legislative kickoff with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. That is at 530 at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. And we are very excited to present our awards to our taxpayer guardian and warriors and champions. and we'd love to have you join us. Tickets are only $10, and CADA has good parking, free parking, a well-lit parking lot, and so love to have you join us, and you can buy your tickets by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. Tried to be in two places at the same time, never successfully, but if I could, the other place that I would be is down in Pueblo at the Center for American Values. They are having an On Values presentation today, by Bob Chica, who was a crew member on the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive during the Vietnam War by the North Koreans. And that will be an excellent presentation as well. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. It doesn't cost anything, but let them know that you are coming and you can get all that information there. Trent Luce is on the line. And Trent, so interesting regarding your testimony down at the Capitol and that you were actually there and the strategy that the PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties have to basically shut down our voices. They extend the timeframe because they don't really want to hear from us. They don't really want to represent us. They're representing all these interested parties. but the co2 pipeline of which you were going to testify on uh we've seen some disruption and again a lot of it's from the work that you're doing the disruption in trying to get the land to do these um i guess that was that that's not the co2 pipelines that is the transmission lines uh here in colorado And so anything that you learned regarding transmission lines and trying to disrupt getting the land to make that happen here in Colorado?
SPEAKER 04 :
I actually left just as that presentation from that bureaucrat was taking place. But the Missouri Cattlemen's Convention happened this week, and it concluded on Sunday. My friend Chuck Miller from Missouri is past president, and I'm talking about Missouri in answer to your question because the issues that the state of Missouri and the cattlemen have as a top priority coming forward is transmission lines. the abuse of solar energy that are coming in on land, confiscating land, confiscating is probably not a good word, but the threat of eminent domain, and the fact that the money that is captured by all of these does not stay in the county or the community where the projects are taking place. Now, the reason I walk you through that is because I could go to Georgia and I could go to Nevada and I would have the same exact story that we're talking about here with Colorado. And so what I've come to the conclusion, and I'm going to Carter County, Montana on Tuesday, we're going to talk about the same exact thing and really just an extension of what that meeting was last week in Washington County, which I'm still very proud of what those people in Washington County are doing. But Kim, this long drawn out answer to your question is that this is not a Colorado issue. Colorado continues to be the tip of the spear, but we have a major attack on taking land away from individuals and putting that land into a collective state no different than what Russia did during the Bolshevik Revolution and how there were willing participants to go into that saying that we could just work for the state. We don't need to own anything. And we know how that turned out. It turned out with famine and 30 million people dying. The same risk is in front of us today today. Because of all of these land grabs, they do not want individuals to own land and generate the essences of life from the land. That's 100% what it's about. It has nothing to do with green energy. It has nothing to do with sequestering carbon. It has everything to do with taking our land from us. Rewilding America is in full-blown press right now.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I think that takes us to the next question. One of our listeners had alerted me to this, and this is out in California. And I texted you this last night, so hopefully I'm not surprising you too much. And this is regarding the Point Reyes Park out in California. There's been cattle grazing there. there for many, many years, but a settlement just was reached where there's not going to be grazing there is my understanding. What's your thoughts about all this?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's the same scenario. There's nothing different about that scenario than anywhere else. And the other thing that ties into every bit of that is that you see people and there are people that say, well, I have to take this money. I have to sign up for this easement because I can't afford to pay my property tax plus the high input costs for what I'm getting on the commodities that I'm producing. That only happens when there's an orchestrated event, and that's the number one avenue to eliminate land ownership in this case, Kim, is that we're going to increase Across the board, state by state, we're going to increase property valuations. In fact, my wife Kelly just sent me a neighboring property close to us that's for sale at $8,700 an acre. And that land three years ago was probably maybe $3,000. It's irrigated farmland, so $3,000 to $5,000. But now it's $8,700 an acre in central Nebraska. What happens as a result of that land sale is, is that valuations on neighboring properties all skyrocket. So the county commissioners could literally take the mill levy down, and yet property taxes will continue to skyrocket. What is happening is that they increase the value of the property that we own, which pushes property taxes to an unaffordable rate. They come along with some Inflation Reduction Act money or some other program that you can get in to pay. You get paid, and this way you can pay your property tax. And once you sign something for perpetuity on your place, you no longer own it.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I know that it is a focus of yours to reduce property taxes. Mine as well, because that is the way that they are basically taking our property. And my friend Susan Kochevar, who has 88 Drive-In Theater, her property taxes with all these different valuations went up last year. I think it was $14,000. She was at $14,000. It went up to over $40,000. And that's not sustainable for people to do that. And so, yes, we've got to work on these property taxes. I wanted to go back to when you were down at the state capitol and you said that the director of energy, a bureaucrat, wants to outdo Colorado and get Colorado to net zero by, I didn't write down the year, is it 2035? You know, another way that you do that is you just shut down the economy. You mentioned how many buildings in downtown Denver... They're at net zero regarding – I guess they are trying to keep them warm, but they're kind of at net zero because people are not renting them. And that is not sustainable because property taxes are not – is a way that – Governments get revenue. And, gosh, if these buildings are empty and end up being reduced in value significantly, I mean, they're going to get the economy to net zero. But it's not going to be a thriving economy, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 04 :
Net zero. Net carbon zero is death. There's no two ways to look at that. Without carbon in the atmosphere, your human body is 18% carbon. So without carbon, you're dead. It's that simple. There's no in between. But let's talk about the National Western again. The event has actually just literally been fantastic. The event itself and what has been accomplished and the crowds have been incredible. The first day set a record for a number of attendants. But as I talk to vendors and I talk to people who come to Colorado and spend money, every one of them will tell you that the cost, not associated directly with the National Western, but the cost of coming to Denver, Colorado, has grown so inflationary that there will be people considered not coming back simply because of what it costs. I'll just give you a quick example. I had a phone that was in bad shape. And I had a moment where I could actually stop and talk to the guys who I get my phone from. They stopped me, and they had this great deal for the stock show deal, right? And they did. They treated me right. They didn't do anything incorrectly. I got my bill, and it's $200 higher than I anticipated it to be, what he told me it would be. So I chopped back over there the next day. I was like, this is $200 above what it is. He pulled up the sheet on what it was, and guess what that $200 was? All tax imposed by the city and the state of Colorado. That's exactly what you just described in terms of net carbon zero and everything other than trying to promote a thriving economy. And let's face it. Nowhere in the Colorado State Constitution, which I haven't read, but if somebody wants to find and tell me I'm wrong, I'd love to see it. Nowhere in the Colorado State Constitution, nowhere in the United States Constitution than I have in my hand does it say the role of government is to incentivize business. And yet that is all they're doing is looking for another program to tie people into so they are completely beholden to the government.
SPEAKER 13 :
And Colorado's at the forefront on this. And, yeah, so it's so important that we shed light on all of this. Trent, we're going to go to break. When we come back, I want to talk about wolves. I also know that Gammy wants to give us a couple minutes regarding an update on some of the stuff that she's seen. And so we do all of this because of our sponsors. And one of those is the Boson Law Firm. If you've been injured, reach out to them as soon as possible.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. This year, my friends, we need to recommit to helping the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. That is out at 6th and Colfax. It's the official Marine Memorial. It was dedicated in 1977. And so it's time for a facelift. And you can help Paula Sarles, the president, USMC Memorial Foundation, and her team. And get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Trent Luce is on the line. He is a sixth-generation farmer and rancher. And, Trent, I did want to ask you about these wolves that were just a whole new set was released here in Colorado, and that is another assault upon property rights. You introduce, PBIs introduce a predator into the environment, and it attacks and kills your property. That is a direct assault upon property rights. And that is also an assault upon our food source. So what they've been pretty tight lipped about what they did exactly on this Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, not in the world I live in because the fish and wildlife have been tight lipped. But I have a friend in Kremlin who knows the individuals where they were released. And if you'll remember, Colorado voted on a ballot initiative to release 10 wolves over five years, which have been 50 wolves. Well, they released 20 this week. And I asked my friend from Kremlin, I said, how can they do that? How can they release 20? Well, they had 15 adults, and apparently one of the females had a litter of pups. And so those pups, what's that purpose? releasing them into a completely strained foreign. What's the odds that they're going to even know how humane is that? If that's what you really want to do, but you're right.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's no different than the transmission lines in Pueblo. It's no different than the proposed projects of CO2 pipelines in the Eastern Plains. It is an attack on animal ownership. And at every turn, What happens is the ranchers who deal with depredation, who deal with the stress of the predators that are released, they're not profitable. Their costs continue to go up. And, well, yeah, there's an indemnification fund, right? No, there is no amount of money a rancher will ever be compensated that will make it okay that his animals endure distress. We have been taught from day one in all of our programs that that we learn are about how can we minimize the stress impact on the animals that we produce for food, and then you release apex predator into that environment that induces stress like never before, it's counterintuitive to everything we've been taught and we've been trying to do for 100 years.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I had heard that some of them might have been released in Pitkin County. Did your colleague?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I think people up in Pitkin County, which normally I think they vote for these radical activist agenda things. I think they might be a little surprised when they start to have all these wolves in their county. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I agree 100%. And I am told. that there is a very influent landowner in Pitkin County that said, hey, bring them on up here. I'm fine with it. Again, an absentee landowner that doesn't truly understand the land. But it's his property. He can do what he wants. But it's going to spill over and affect everybody else's property.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And what do you think about there might be a ballot initiative to reverse this? What's your ear to the ground say about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that the reason the predator bill in Colorado failed, it's about an issue last time is because there is an understanding with the majority of Coloradans that this was a stupid idea. We really wish we could take it back. And so if that is a potential possibility, I think it needs to be pursued rapidly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And the election results on that, it was Prop 114 was so razor thin. It was 50.91% in favor, 49.09% against. And again, we're working on our Colorado 2024 election project. I think that we have some real challenges regarding our elections. And so with something that close, that's really of great concern. Let's get over here, Trent Luce. I know she's a big fan of yours, and that is Gammy. She is so informed on so many different things, but she wanted to give us an update on some of the stuff that's been happening, so she's going to give us a two-minute synopsis on that. So, Gammy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you. Hi, guys. Hey, it's Gangsta in the Trenches this week. I spent two days with Dr. Clemens and Ann VanderSteel and Viva Frye, of course, by computer as they covered the prisoners record and all the releases all over and 900 days the storm trooper group on the freedom corner which was a spot right by the jail in dc they called a gulag and they released them in small slow walk places worst of all worst of all What happened was Jake Lang didn't get out the day before. I watched this for two days into midnight the first night and all day yesterday to last night. The elation, love, and families there waiting for their people and freezing to death outside while the police lined up to have a show of force for D.C. They made the Freedom Caucus. Representative Boebert, Chip Roy, and many others showed up. to defend and and the marshals to get them out and on some based secondary you know charges six of them didn't get out by about eight last night they may get out today including the famous jeremy brown green beret so this was all nasty but what really is was happening thank god and vandersteel and viva fry gave up their whole sites for two days but here's what what you need to know The immense violation of prisoners' rights, deaths, rape, eyes poked out, beaten, Geneva Convention violated is so egregious that they do need a – I think they need to prosecute and expose and explore the real crimes because if they could do it to you – I mean to them, they could do it to all of us, right? So this isn't over just because they were released, guys. This is just beginning because this ties to everything that you and Trent keep exposing, like the AI use of water and energy, the abuses. This goes to the fact that now the exposure of the crimes of the last two decades must be put out or we, the humans, don't have a chance.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, Gammy, and thank you for sharing that with us. And yes, this is historic with the January 6th, 1500 were issued pardons and being released. And so it's interesting to watch how this is going to transpire. But it all, the truth will come out. And Trent, we've got another caller on the line, and that's Bill in North Glen. Welcome, Bill.
SPEAKER 06 :
You guys were talking earlier about the Wolf Initiative. There are putting forth a ballot initiative and i think that's key in colorado we have the ability as the citizenry to rise up and i think trent had mentioned that something happened in south dakota regarding land grab or something we as citizens need to get up and let's repeal this idiotic egg thing because we don't want the little chicken upset because he's in a cage let's get rid of these grocery bag situation let's take it to the people and let the people decide I know that the Republicans in the State House are planning a program, and they're going to use it to repeal a bunch of these bills, but very likely they're going to fail because we're in the minority. But we need to do what Trump is doing. He's a showman and come out and say, okay, these people denied you, the Coloradans, the ability to choose whether you want the chicken in the cage or not, and you want to spend $10, $15 a dozen for eggs or whatever. we need to do that and we need to be a little bit better with the media in Colorado. And I think that Colorado may not be as liberal as we think they are. I mean, for the most part, all these liberals are quite deranged to liberalism as a mental illness. But I think if we get some practical moves like ballot initiatives, I really think that the people would say, hey, this is reasonable and it's common sense, just like Trump is doing now.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Bill in North Glen, thank you. Great ideas. Trent Luce, we're basically out of time, but great conversations today, Trent.
SPEAKER 04 :
It always is, and our goal is to inspire more people to stand up and be like Gammy and Bill, and we'll do it one day at a time. Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
We will.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll be over for sausage and pancakes right after this.
SPEAKER 13 :
And Trent Luce, keep up the good work. We'll talk next week.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you.
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And Martin Luther King Jr. said this. He said, if you can't fly, then run. If you can't run, then walk. If you can't walk, then crawl. But whatever you do, you have to keep moving forward. So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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to cry but tell them if I don't survive I was born
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Join us as we explore an unforgettable moment in history where commitment to American strength and sovereignty takes center stage. From critiques over the swearing-in ceremony to compelling orations about America's future, this episode unpacks the optimism and drama of Trump's return as leader. Mike Deller, from the Relief Factor Studios, adds depth to every key moment, making this a must-listen for anyone following the unfolding story of America’s renewal.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, here's Mike Deller.
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I have a framed cover of the New York Post on my studio wall. It has a picture of Donald Trump with his fist in the air. It says, Trump shot. Bloodied but unbowed, ex-president survives assassination attempt. Now I want to add another New York Post cover image. To my wall, I want to put today's cover under the framed cover of the New York Post that says Trump shot. And today's cover, Donald Trump, 45th and 47th president, vows, and in big, bold letters, golden age of America. And it's a big picture of the swearing-in ceremony that, incidentally, Chief Justice Roberts botched. He rushed it, didn't give Melania time to stand by her husband's side. And as a result, he didn't have his hand on the Bibles that she was to hold because John Roberts screwed up another swearing-in. He messed up the Obama inauguration, too, the swearing-in ceremony. They had to redo it. Remember they had to do a do-over because John Roberts couldn't read the few words that were on the paper correctly? Well, this time he rushed it, and so Melania and the kids couldn't be at their husband and dad's side fast enough, and she didn't have time to hold the Bibles up, leading to this whole plethora of conspiracy theories going about why he didn't have his hand on the Bible. You can thank John Roberts once again. Big dummy. Anyway, here we go. The golden age begins. And I'm going to get that framed. The golden age of America. Below Trump's shot. What a year. And what a time to be alive. It's like we've got to pinch ourselves. Is this really all happening? His day yesterday, look, I got a little tired for a quick trip to Washington, D.C. How this man does what he does, 42 executive orders and memos and proclamations, 115 personnel actions, over 200 executive actions, 60 minutes of press questions and answers, and three historic speeches, not to mention dancing with his wife at the Commander-in-Chief Ball. and having a giant sword to cut the cake with, and singing and dancing to the YMCA from the village people. My gosh. Yesterday he announced to the nation that we are a nation that will be proud again, that will be prosperous again, that will be free again.
SPEAKER 05 :
Our sovereignty will be reclaimed. Our safety will be restored. The scales of justice will be rebalanced. The vicious, violent, and unfair weaponization of the Justice Department and our government will end. And our top priority will be to create a nation that is proud, prosperous, and free. America will soon be greater, stronger, and far more exceptional than ever before. I return to the presidency confident and optimistic that we are at the start of a thrilling new era of national success. A tide of change is sweeping the country. Sunlight is pouring over the entire world. And America has the chance to seize this opportunity like never before.
SPEAKER 07 :
I couldn't get enough of the images of Kamala and Joe and Hillary and Bill and Barack all sitting there. having to endure his promise to fix the mess that they created. It was amazing. It was astounding, actually. It was like a hostage video. They were held hostage. They're in that room, having to listen to him say, I've basically inherited a dumpster fire, and here I am to put it out. And the fire was ignited by the horrific policies of these Democrats. My gosh. What a time to be alive. And one of the things, here's the first meltdown of the golden age. The meltdown is the executive order that Trump signed that would end birthright citizenship. You know what birthright, you're born here, you're guaranteed citizenship. And what has happened is Thousands and thousands, maybe millions of illegal immigrants have endangered their children's lives, packing them up and sneaking into America by hoping to give birth while in illegal on American soil so that their child can be guaranteed American citizenship. And I was so fascinated by the way Axios characterizes this. This is the legacy media for you. And let me share with you how they portray it. And then let me give you the common sense people's president's assessment of this. Headline. Trump, this is from Axios today. Trump signs executive order attacking birthright citizenship guaranteed by the Constitution. Oh, no. He's shredding the Constitution on day one? How can this be? Well, Axios explains in its own article that the 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868, was passed, you know why? Not to protect illegals who want to sneak into the United States over the border and give birth on American soil. No. No. The 14th Amendment was passed to give emancipated and formerly enslaved black Americans citizenship. Blacks weren't allowed to be citizens. And in 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed to guarantee that they will be. It didn't apply to people sneaking into this country and giving birth on American soil. Now, let me read some more from Axios. Why it matters. Trump is acting on a once fringe belief that U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants have no right to U.S. citizenship. Now, let me repeat that to you. Axios, a legacy mainstream media outlet inside the Beltway, claims that Trump is acting on on a fringe belief. It was once the fringe. In other words, we're all wacky to believe that U.S.-born children of illegals don't have a right to U.S. citizenship. Okay, let's dive in. Let's answer it. I want to turn to you. 800-655-MIKE. Do you think... I'll use Axios' phrase. Do you believe that U.S.-born children of illegals have a right to U.S. citizenship under the 14th Amendment? Knowing that the 14th Amendment was passed... to give the newly emancipated slaves their citizenship. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. One phone number does it all. You can call, text, email the show, mike at mikeonline.com. We're streaming live today on X. We've got the show available to you in a variety of ways. Of course, watching on the Salem News Channel as well and all of its platforms. Welcome in. If you're new to the show, we welcome you with open arms. We're pretty loving and inclusive around here. And we're especially in a great mood after the golden age kicked off yesterday. 800-655-6453. Give me your take next. Put the heaven in your heart and let me be.
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What was your highlight of your executive order?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think the birthright citizenship, Jesse, was huge. There's going to be an immediate lawsuit filed against that because, of course, there's a constitutional provision about birthright citizenship that the court has not resolved. But most constitutional scholars believe the Constitution requires it. There is an interesting debate that you can actually, an argument that you can make for President Trump's position on this. It's obviously ludicrous. That was good. The J6 pardons.
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What did he do there? Let's talk about, and she's a lawyer and I'm not, and I don't pretend to play one on TV. But if the Constitution, if the 14th Amendment to the Constitution was intended to give emancipated slaves citizenship... Tell me how that has anything to do with swimming across the Rio Grande, plopping yourself in Houston or Galveston or Greenville, South Carolina, having a baby, and then clinging to the 14th Amendment as the reason to ensure that that baby is a citizen. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Again, I'm no lawyer. I can't imagine that there's a debate. Let them sue. And if they're going to sue over Trump's executive order regarding birthright citizenship, who gets to sue Joe Biden over his last-minute preemptive pardons of scoundrels? How does that work? Can anybody sue? It's wrong. It's absolutely wrong. And I like where we're headed. Henry's in Tampa, Florida, 23 past the hour. Hello, Henry. Welcome to the golden age of America, huh? Yeah. How are you feeling?
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Great. I'm feeling great today. Good. Me too. Let's everybody read the second part of that sentence in the paragraph. It's paraphrasing. It's something in the effective. that those people who have birthright sentences must be under the control of the government. And if you are a foreigner... into this person, even if you do something wrong, including birth, it has to be reported to the embassy of that person.
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Well, let me read. I'll read the 14th Amendment in total here in just a moment. I want to also share a text from New York that I just received on the MyPillow text line that makes a lot of sense, too. And again, this is perfect. Very important point. hopefully the change in birthright citizenship will reduce the number of deliveries in the United States hospitals. These people, many of them have no insurance. Well, how would you have insurance if you're an illegal immigrant and you're living here illegally? You think you have health insurance? As the texter writes, they just want the social security number and access to our system. Then many go back to their home country as they're not here with proper long-term documents. They now have a child of U.S. citizenship. The health care system is broken thanks in large measure... to the many illegals and births from those who come into our country just for the benefit. They can't be refused services. That's the point. That's the whole point. And Axios, oh, this is attacking something guaranteed by the Constitution. Trump is acting on a fringe belief. that U.S.-born children have no right to citizenship, and they're part of a big conspiracy that's racist to replace white Americans. Oh, yeah, the great replacement theory. That's back now, according to Axios and all these lunatics who are losing their marbles over Trump with a common-sense perspective. "...all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," says Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment, "...are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process." nor denied any person within its jurisdiction the equal protections of the laws. And, you know, there are multiple sections to the 14th Amendment. But again, according to Axios, I'm going by the legacy guys and gals, this was put into place in our Constitution to ensure that slaves could be citizens. So, look, good for Trump. We've got to do a lot of YMCA today, Eric. You got a YMCA? Let's pop that in there. How about Trump dancing to YMCA as he was cutting the cake, this giant cake, at the Commander-in-Chief ball last night? Oh, my gosh. Somebody posted today on social media, I went to bed with that image in my mind, and I woke up with that in my mind. Me too. It's a golden age, and it's here, and doesn't it feel great? There's no better time than right now to call my friends at PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition to start your journey to a healthier you. As I hear from you about how PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition has changed your life, I know that each one of us has had our own reasons for starting. I started my journey because I gained enough weight and was ready to make a change. i sat down with dr ashley lucas and like they say the rest was history i lost 53 pounds and i've kept it off we all have different reasons for starting maybe you got a discouraging diagnosis from your doctor you needed to make a lifestyle change one grandmother i talked to couldn't chase her toddler grandson and was afraid he might get hurt in her care another gentleman had lower back and hip pain which forced him to give up golf he wanted his life back you want your life back Do what I did. Start the PhD journey. Make 2024 your year to say goodbye and let go of all those unwanted pounds. Call PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition today to schedule your consultation. Call 864-644-1900. 864-644-1900. Or just go to MyPhDWeightLoss.com. MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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I didn't think I could get any happier with the last 24, 48 hours. I just saw a story about an ex-Obama official, Jay Johnson. Remember him? The former Homeland Security Secretary under Barack Obama? He told Morning Joe today on MSNBC that he expected mass resignations from the Justice Department following Trump's pardoning of 1,500 January 6 offenders. Does that make you as happy as it makes me? Good. Good. Clean them out. I hope they all quit. Do a big churn. Do a complete reset at the DOJ. This guy said it like it was a bad thing. Now, as you know, one of the big crises apparently with the mainstream media. is that Trump pardoned approximately 1,500. Actually, as I understand, there were commutations. There were some pardons. There were commutations. Let's let the actual signing, as he's sitting in the Oval Office, hanging out with Peter Doocy. Peter Doocy has died and gone to heaven. No more will Peter Doocy have to fight with Binder's Pierre anymore. And he was owning that press event in the Oval Office last night. Peter Doocy was asking every other question. It's like they were old pals. Peter Doocy can't believe his good fortune that Trump is back in the White House and Peter Doocy stays on the beat. And they're just chatting away. Trump, I can't stop laughing. He kept signing an executive order. Oh, what's this one? Mr. President, this is 1.653, ending birthright citizenship. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Let me sign that. Hey, Peter, what do you have next? And they're just talking. And you can hear the sound of the Sharpie on the document while he's talking. Can you picture Biden trying to do that? He'd slump over. He would just fall back over his chair. Kamala would just giggle. She would just cackle uncontrollably. She couldn't do that. Trump's day yesterday was a masterpiece. Up at 6 or 7 in the morning, executive orders, three major speeches. I mean, I've never seen anything like it in my life. How about him dancing in the Trump dance to YMCA while swinging around a sword that he used to cut the giant cake at the Commander-in-Chief ball. I mean, in fact, I got to put you in a good mood. We got to play it for you. Good day for you to be watching the show. We got a lot of new listeners, too, on radio stations all over the country. I got emotional last night thinking about 2024. You know, I know that our return to News Talk 98.9 WORD in South Carolina is kind of an inside baseball thing. I mean, look, if you're in Hawaii, you don't care where you hear the show, right? But if I had to tell you where my home was, and I've had many homes in my life, Ohio, South Carolina, New York, Now Florida. But South Carolina, the upstate, is really home for me. And everybody there who I know and love, they know it. That's my home. I'm sure it's where I'll retire. I just love that community. And due to a series of events, we were on that station, and then the company I worked for bought another station. They took me off the station, much to my dismay. And we were on the other station for eight or nine years. And then the company I worked for sold the radio station. And so we were just praying that we could go back to WORD. And we did. And I think everybody's happy. It feels like the management there and the team and great hosts. I mean, Tara. Tara is incredible. She's so smart. Charlie James is wonderful. Bill Frady is a terrific host. And look, that was back in May. And I remember thinking, if we get the chance to go back to News Talk 98.9 WORD, this powerhouse station, And we lose the election, how awful that would be. So the election victory that Republicans experienced was icing on the cake. I mean, I know it's way more important than what station I'm on. But for me to be back home again. I did. I got emotional. I shed some tears because I thought how lucky I am, how blessed I am, and how grateful I am. They didn't have to bring me back. They just didn't. They had to make some changes. They had a kind of a... Rhino guy. I don't want to cast aspersions, but they made some great changes there. And having Joey Hudson with me on the station. Joey does an early morning show for them. He does a weekend show. And, of course, he was doing hits with Tara. I don't know why they didn't ask me. I guess Tara likes Joey more than me. There's Joey in the car talking to Tara. And I thought, why can't I talk to Tara? Anyway, it was just a real epic year for us. And I'm just so happy. I cannot contain my exuberance. And there was Trump. They presented President Trump and Vice President Vance with swords at this military inauguration. It's called the Commander-in-Chief Ball. And one of the symbols, of course, they danced with their spouses for a little bit, and that was a great moment. They looked great. There's Trump in his tux and Melania, oh my gosh, stunning in a black and white outfit that was, she didn't have a hat on, thank goodness. You could see her beautiful face and Usha, the beautiful wife of J.D. Vance. It was just incredible. The day was, I can't get over it. I feel like we're dreaming. It's just too, it's too much. It's too good. And so Trump takes the sword. They give him a sword for some reason to cut the cake because it's a huge cake. And the YMCA theme comes on from the village people. So he starts doing the Trump dance while swinging the sword around. I mean, this is the president of the United States. You've never seen anything like this in your life. Can I share this with you, please? First of all, if you're watching this on Salem News Channel, you'll get it. I'm also going to send you back. We'll send you back the clip on our MyPillow text line, too. So hit it, Christian. Let's put everybody in a good mood. He's got the sword in his right hand. He's doing the dance. Melania's laughing. Keep it going. And they're all laughing, and Melania starts doing the dance, too. I've never seen her do it. Now, she does an elegant version. She doesn't have the closed fists. She does an open-handed Trump dance, which is even better. Gosh, the joy really is back. Isn't it fascinating to consider that Kamala attempted to manufacture a message of joy, and there was zero joy with that bunch. Nothing. There's real joy here. And incidentally, if you want that video clip, which is sure to put a smile on your face, just text the letters YMCA to our MyPillow text line at 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453, and we'll send you back the clip that is sure to put a smile on your face. Just text YMCA to 800-655-6453, and we will send you back... That glorious moment where Trump and Melania and J.D. and Usha are doing the Trump dance to YMCA while he's swinging the sword around. I mean, that could have put somebody's eye out. 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I think a lot of people woke up the morning after this election, after believing for almost a decade, like you say, Anand, that this is not who we are and said, I guess this is who we are.
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Isn't that fascinating? People that, according to this NBC anchor, people thought what we are is an open border, lawless society that doesn't follow any mores or standards, that rejects Faith, family, freedom. Burn cities down when a black guy is killed. I mean, an assault on every decent American. Willie Geist evidently thought that there were people who said, yep, that's who we are. And then they woke up and they said, guess that's not who we are. Well, that is not who we are. We don't... Most Americans... as evidenced by the landslide election of Donald Trump, despite their best efforts to make it look like it was close. And it wasn't close. How do you win every swing state? How do you win the way he won and pretend it was close? The popular vote? Newsflash? That's not how we decide the outcome of elections. It was a landslide. So there is a mandate. And everything is changing. I mean, I'm broadcasting today from the Gulf of America. I'm on the Gulf of America now. Florida has become the first state to officially refer to the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis issued an emergency declaration ahead of a forecasted winter storm that might be affecting the Panhandle, I guess, and up in the northern part. I mean, it's chilly here in Tampa Bay. But Trump issued an order to create names that honor American greatness. And one of them is changing the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. I don't think I'll ever say it. It's like I never call the Freedom Tower in lower Manhattan anything other than the Freedom Tower, despite the politically correct nudniks wanting to change that name. Well, now it's the Gulf of America. I'll never say Gulf of Mexico again. Now, let me ask you, are these changes going to be permanent? Is it as good as we think it is? Tell me what you think. 800-655-MIKE.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome, my friend. Breathe deep. Take a deep breath. Does it feel different? Does it just feel different today, Mr. Mike?
SPEAKER 07 :
The image of Lisa cooking you a lunch and holding hands on the couch watching the inaugural ceremony has just warmed my heart. I would be nowhere else. I went to bed last night with the image of Trump waving a sword, dancing to YMCA as he cut the cake with J.D. Vance last night. And I woke up with that image in my mind. Burned into our brain. I've never seen anything like this in my life. I mean, it feels like we're in this wonderful, delicious dream that doesn't feel real. I mean, in just 24 hours, the idea that this guy stood up there and just eviscerated the deep state in front of... Barack Obama and Joe Biden and Kamala, that speech, it was so perfect. It was so magnificent. And I couldn't get enough of the facial expressions of all of these Democrats who were forced to sit there and listen to. I mean, it was like everything. felt better everything was vindicated everything all of the pain we felt over his horrific 34 felony convictions all of the anguish we felt over the assassination attempts all of the efforts to weaponize the justice department to make sure he didn't get elected yeah All the media corruption, all the haters, all the lies they told about him over the years, everything they like. Everything came to fruition when he stood there at that podium yesterday and just ripped them apart in a in a in a really, you know, almost pleasant way. I mean, it was like, look, I'm not going to sit around here and do Kumbaya. They tried to they tried to destroy him, Mark. Why would he? Why would he stand there and say, OK, thanks for rifling through my wife's underwear door. So now let's be friends. He's not going to do that. You know, he's not going to do that, which makes the pardons that Biden came up with so egregious. Let me let me let's start there together, Mark. I want to start with the pardons. Here's a headline from The Hill. Adam Schiff. calls Trump's January 6th pardons a grotesque display of power. Hey, Pencil Neck, you might want to sit down on this one because you got a preemptive pardon. That's right. Now, look, here's my attitude about his pardon of the 1,500 January 6ers. Mm-hmm. There's about 1,500 of them, and all night long on Twitter, on X, and everywhere they were saying, oh, my, praise God, I've been pardoned. My record is cleared. I've got another friend. I'm coming out of jail tonight. My family's coming to get me because they were releasing them last night. Okay. Biden decides he's going to give Liz Cheney, Anthony Fauci. Let's start. Let's do it. Look, Mark Milley. Yep. Mark Milley. Let's do. And his own family. But let's start with and he did that as a as a real blank you because he did it minutes before the inauguration ceremony, because at the last possible moment, because he knows how how his legacy has just been completed. Completely shattered. Whatever legacy he had left, it's in the gutter now. I mean, there's nothing left of the Biden legacy after these pardons. But let's go tit for tat. Okay, you're going to pardon Anthony Fauci if the allegation about Fauci is true. that he was absolutely involved and complicit in this Wuhan virus. He was complicit in the whole coronavirus scam. If he had any hand... in the horrific pandemic that destroyed this country and much of the world, okay? Put us on hold, everything else. I would say that's a little more serious than even breaking a window at the Capitol. I would say it's a lot more serious than even something that sickens me, but... Fighting with a police officer.
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Yeah, rioting is bad. Let us stipulate that rioting is bad.
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No one's going to do it. You're not going to get the guy from Gallagher's Heroes, the fallen officer fund, an argument about that. Rioting and assaulting cops is bad. A pandemic complicity is worse. Correct. If Tony Fauci can be pardoned for that, you know what? I am absolutely fine with pardoning every damn last one of them of January 6th. I'm sorry. That's how I feel about it. Playtime is over. Party time is done. And these guys are – and to sit – and I got to say this about – did you see George W. Bush at the – the faces he was making? I did. Rolling his eyes and all the weird – and somebody apparently was able to lip read Obama. No, they weren't.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, no, no, an actual lip reader. I think that's a very inexact science. But anyway, go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it's not that hard. But look, I don't think look, look, I don't think it's nefarious. What did he supposedly write? He supposedly said, but it was a joke. It's OK. But he said supposedly did Bush. Is there any way we can stop this from happening? Well, there you go.
SPEAKER 08 :
More lip reading from Obama. My wife and Karen Pence are on their third bottle of wine in a hotel suite not far from here.
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Karen Pence couldn't even show up, just like Michelle. Let's lip read Barron. Did you see Barron lean into Biden and say something and Biden's facial expression change? Barron Trump, the youngest Trump, said something. I think pretty devastating to Joe Biden because Biden was like giving him pleasantries. Oh, no, you see, his whole facial expression changed, Mark.
SPEAKER 08 :
Listen, he might have fallen asleep for a moment. I don't know. Barron could have leaned in and said, hey, do you like Nintendo Switch? And Biden would have had that very same.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I think Barron leaned in and said, raiding my family's home was a big mistake, old man. Stop.
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Stop it.
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Stop it.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I'm telling you. I don't believe that for a minute. Have you seen the clip? I don't disbelieve it.
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Something happened.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know what I do. My favorite Barron moment. There's so many Barron moments. That is a fine looking young man. You know what? He looks just like his mom and just like his dad. Have you ever seen the picture of him?
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Have you ever seen the comparison of Barron when Trump was that age? They're like twins. He looks just like Donald Trump when Trump was young, was in his 20s. They look identical. It's unbelievable.
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And he's 18. Now, did you catch him as he enjoyed the cheers of the crowd, the Novak Djokovic hand to the ear? I took a look at that. Did that picture, tweeted it out with four numbers, 2044.
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No, I'm telling you. And look, give him credit because President Trump gives his son a lot of credit. For the youth vote. For Trump embracing the youth vote and the podcast world and going on to a lot of these podcasts and Rogan and all that. And that's, of course, what an 18-year-old is following. And I love all the memes that show Barron leading into his dad saying, Father, Joe Biden must be destroyed. He always says, Father. Father. Father. Father, you must destroy.
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While we're working our way through the family, can I stop the segment down right now and destroy the listenership of two talk shows at once? I'm going to throw down my hot opinion of the day. You ready? First of all, Melania. Thank God she's back. Fashion icon. Fantastic. Elegant. Especially last night. For the actual inaugural thing, did not enjoy the hat. Well, it's a look. It is, but I like to see people's eyes. And here's the funny thing. When Trunk shows up, he leans into Melania for the little kiss, and the brim of the hat catches him on the bridge of the nose, and everybody goes, and I'm half kidding about that. And please, I'm being totally, just having a little fun here.
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I had the benefit of being with Peg Hudson in the hotel, watching a lot of it after we were at the balls and everything. Yeah. And Peg and Joey and I were in the room and Peg said, look, I would have liked to seen the hat up a little bit. But Peg said and Peg knows she looks like she's down to step right out of a fashion magazine. She always she had a ball gown on for the balls, a black, beautiful flowing. It was she looked beautiful. Anyway, she said, you got to understand that Melania knows fashion. And that's that look is exactly what that calls for. I'm like you. I would have liked to seen her face.
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If I could see Stevie Ray Vaughan's eyes when he wore that hat, I should be able to see.
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I know. I know. But she's the only woman when I'm in when I've interviewed President Trump and a couple of times I've interviewed him. Was she with with her at his side? Yeah. she takes my breath away she is so she's it's it's unbelievable i mean the skin the face the eyes the hair it's like you stand there and you say this cannot be an actual human being i'm not kidding you she's the most pardon me honey my my wife in heaven is probably going to yell at me when i i'm the chains are going to rattle tonight but she's the most beautiful woman i've ever seen in my life it's unbelievable
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Do you hear Trump talking about the shoes in Emancipation Hall? The shoes were killing her. She kept saying, I'm going to do this.
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I'm going to do this. My feet hurt. How about when Trump said, she said, sir. And then he said, oh, wait a minute. She never calls me, sir. And she's back there shaking her head saying, no kidding, dummy. I never. Look, you know, somebody described her last night. I think it was Kayleigh McEnany who said, Melania's got a quiet strength. She's her own woman. Oh, no, it was Jeanine Pirro. It was Janine Pirro who's known them forever, right? Who knows a little something about strength that's not quiet. So I love Judge Janine. Right. And Judge Janine knew Melania and Donald before they were married. And Janine told a story last night. And that was a weird segment where Sean is up there with these giggling women who are all like screaming about the fashion and the hair and the shoes and everything. And Sean's going, what am I doing here? It was hysterical. Sean, by the way, who I saw online the other night, just bought a $23 million mansion in Palm Beach. You want to see a house? Google that house. Boy, and Sean with Ainsley Earhart.
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Is Ainsley his brand new wife? His fiancee. They got married over Christmas. They did get married? Yes. Are they married? Yeah, London boy. They got married over Christmas. Oh, I didn't know. Look, isn't that crazy? But she's got to still be in New York for Fox and Friends.
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During the week. And he's in Florida, and they get together on the weekends. But then again, when you own a couple of G5s and helicopters and Sikorskis, you can get together.
SPEAKER 08 :
He can be together with her sooner than I can meet Lisa in downtown Dallas.
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Look, she could be in Iceland, and they're closer than you and Lisa. Exactly. from Flower Mound or whatever to Dallas, Texas. But anyway, there's Sean up there, and they're all good. But Jeanine Pirro told the story about how when Trump first started dating Melania, they all said she's the one because she's smart, she's independent. I mean, she speaks six languages. And fun fact, never once on the cover of any fashion magazine in the first year. Whereas Michelle Obama...
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With their Target outfits on. Some of them are J.Crew, I think.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, J.Crew, that's true. That's on the cover of Vogue, but not Melania and Jill Biden on the cover.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dude, I may be wrong. I'm Googling. I don't think they got married yet. The engagement got announced. Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's what I thought. I'm so enthused I'm getting people married who are just engaged. No, they're not married yet. Put this just in, Sean Hannity and Ainsley Earhart welcomed their first child. Sorry. No, he's kidding. He's kidding. Engaged. They're engaged, engaged, engaged. I thought, you know, I kind of like to get these things right.
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Anyway, we're going to have some fun today on the show because I'm going to play clips of Biden and Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney and all the rest of them condemning preemptive pardons. Hey, look at their consistency check. Isn't that funny? Look, here's the fact. And you know this better than anybody. Everything the Democrats and the legacy media falsely claim Trump would do. Mm hmm. They did.
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Every accusation is an admission.
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There you go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Every accusation is an admission. And, you know, for anybody who thought for anybody who thought as Trump was delivering those inaugural remarks, which could absolutely have been subtitled undoing everything you people did as Biden and Kamala sit right there. For anybody who thought, oh, is this kind of harsh? Does he really have to do this? Just pause, check yourself and remember everything these vicious people did to him for four years. A Hitler level threat to democracy. They tried to financially ruin him, personally ruin him, politically ruin him. Spare me the violin music for a somewhat terse inaugural address.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's why I proudly say as I sit on the Gulf of America in my home, I'm now on the Gulf of America.
SPEAKER 08 :
Do you know the answer to that?
SPEAKER 07 :
DeSantis.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think Florida. Florida gets to determine what a body of water is called?
SPEAKER 07 :
He already did it. Last night, DeSantis did kind of a proclamation about this being the Gulf of America now. I mean, I don't know who gets to do it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't either. It would seem like, do we unilaterally? It would seem... Okay, by me. America first.
SPEAKER 07 :
I love it. Oh, my gosh. Can we do something to the Atlantic or the Pacific? Can we work on those two? No, we just got to worry about the Gulf of Mexico. Did you see Hillary cracking up when he said that at the speech? They showed her laughing. Good. You laugh away, Hillary. You laugh away because you'll never be president. Here's what I know. I'm a little tired from the trip yesterday. I watched a man get up at about 6 a.m. He issued 42 executive orders and proclamations, 115 personnel actions. He signed over 200 executive actions while talking to reporters in the White House.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I stepped away from the TV and you texted me and said, are you watching Trump right now? And I said, well, hang on a couple hours behind on the DVR. And there he is for an hour and a quarter in the Oval Office just signing stuff, taking questions, signing stuff, taking questions. Riffing, riffing. Yes, just and it got to be like nine something Eastern time. And I thought, doesn't he need to be getting ready for the inaugural balls where he didn't show up until 1030?
SPEAKER 07 :
Dance the night away until well past one and sang and sang and danced with the sword in the hand swinging to YMCA by the village people. All I know is the funniest moment of the night came from one of your texts. Because I said, you've got to see this. He's in the Oval Office signing executive orders. And you can hear the creaking of the pen on the paper as he said, oh, here's a good one. Oh, yeah. I mean, one after the other after the other. And the text back from you, because you were catching up, was, Mother of God, dear sweet Jesus, he's throwing pens into the crowd. I laughed for 10 minutes.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was two hours because he'd done the signing ceremony. And at one point between signing stuff, there were a couple of moments of silence, even in an arena of 20,000. And I hear somebody from eight rows back yell, can you throw me a pen? And I thought, he's going to do it. He's going to throw this guy a pen. Well, there are about 10 pens left. He's throwing pens like the Mavericks shoot T-shirts up into the crowd of the AAC.
SPEAKER 07 :
Pens used to sign executive orders. So somebody walked away. I brought my producer back a coffee mug, but man, I wish I could have grabbed a pen. Get one of those pens. They're on eBay for $5,000. The golden age is here, my friend.
SPEAKER 06 :
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In this episode, we dive deep into the immediate actions taken by the newly inaugurated administration. As President Trump and his team begin to reshape key policies, we explore the barrage of executive orders that signal a significant shift in direction. From civil servant reform to changes in birthright citizenship, these orders are already facing legal challenges, setting the stage for a contentious few months ahead. We also discuss the significance of recent pardons issued and what they suggest about the legal landscape moving forward.
SPEAKER 04 :
today on seculo it's exposed the left lawsuits begin against president trump keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo we want to hear from you share and post your comments for call 1-800-684-3110 and now your host jordan seculo
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, welcome to Seculo. As you can see, I'm in Washington, D.C. It's been a week of inaugurations in West Virginia with our colleague J.B. McCuskey, former colleague, becoming the West Virginia Attorney General, of course, here in Washington, D.C., with the officials swearing in of President Trump, J.D. Vance, and that team now going to work today and yesterday full-time with the president signing... 200 executive orders, some new orders, some rescinding and just one order rescinded 78 executive orders by President Biden. We'll walk through some of these on the hot button topics and issues that President Trump campaigned on. And he did it right away after taking the oath in that rally setting. Things were different in Washington, D.C., because most All the events were held inside. I will tell you, even to get inside as we did some of these inaugural balls and events, I mean, just for the five or ten minutes you may be outside, it was, you know, ten degrees outside. So it made sense to move things inside. At the same time, the administration is getting to work and, as you saw, was very prepared on what to do on day one. And I think we're already – I just came from a meeting with our legal team in D.C. going through those executive orders as they are, as we see lawsuits already begin to be filed against the Trump administration. One on Doge. We're seeing others talked about on Fox. birthright citizenship and definitions there. We'll talk through it on the show, but we've already identified, I think, 15 to 16 that are likely going to have lawsuits filed and that we are ready to defend along with the Trump administration.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, Jordan. And as you mentioned, and as you have said, since the time of the election, that as soon as there's a new administration, our work in some degree ramps up very aggressively because these groups, these outside groups, will start attacking the very policies that President Trump was elected to enact. And through these executive actions, they are being challenged already. One is being challenged, the Department of Government Efficiency. And then we also see states getting ready to take action against the birthright citizenship, narrowing of that definition that was put out in an order yesterday. And this is just the beginning. We know that those are the ones that were ready to file at 1202, if you will, yesterday or right after things were signed. But these will continue to mount. And we want to make sure that the government can do its job and the new administration can do its job. Therefore, we will be ready to engage these lawsuits as well. And I know you've been meeting with our folks in D.C. and our team there already strategizing our first moves against these lawsuits.
SPEAKER 07 :
For instance, civil servant reform. This is the ability to make sure that when you go in as a department head, whether that's the cabinet-level secretary or undersecretary, and you've got staff of maybe hundreds of federal bureaucrats, and within that civil servant group, there are those who are time and time again Showing you they are they are giving you willful disregard for the instructions and policies that your elected administration that you serve has been is to carry out that you can then remove those people right now. It takes basically. a criminal act by a civil servant to actually remove them this would make it removable by cause because they are thwarting the policies and the input in the actual policies you know putting them into action so a lot of work to do but all work that's necessary to make our government work again for the american people we want you to support the work of the aclj donate today at aclj.org i will tell you our washington team is going to be very busy as the lawsuits begin filed today against the trump administration we'll be right back with your calls on seculo All right, welcome back to Seculo. We are taking your calls, 1-800-684-3110. If you want to join us today on the broadcast, we'd love to hear your thoughts on yesterday with the inauguration of President Trump, his remarks and remarks that he gave throughout the day. You know, did some interesting things that were different, obviously, because of the weather here, but was already going to do some that were different, too, like holding that rally and And then, of course, utilizing that same event space to do kind of a different kind of parade because, again, the high temperatures I think were in the 20s. But while the temperatures were cold, I will tell you, people are just very excited about the prospects of what is already getting done. in this administration what is changing in the world I point to again is everything perfect in the world on day one absolutely not but does it feel like we have a team coming together in place that is excited about tackling these really difficult issues and going out there as happy warriors to represent America. And I think at the same time, Will, from our legal perspective, we see the lawsuits that are already being filed, one on Doge. There will certainly be lawsuits filed on... civil servant reform. Uh, you know, we talked about what draining the swamp means. Draining the swamp really means how, how do you get rid of these bad actors in the bureaucracy? If they're constantly thwarting the president's directives, which are then carried out by these departments. So, you know, they are a problem person. They are, they are willfully ignoring, um, the, the advice, the job that they are instructions that they are given by their, uh, directors who are political appointees. And in some cases, not only do they ignore, they actually do the opposite or try and slow walk things or just cause things to be difficult. That someone like that can be removed or at least put into a different position, if not completely removed from the federal government. So this is learning... I think the Trump team learning from those first four years, really, how do you get to those problem people? And what's the best way to drain the swamp? And the best way to drain the swamp, Will, is to make sure that you can start removing people from these positions after they have shown that they're not going to follow the rules, they're not going to follow the policies, that they are not going to respect who the American people decided to elect as president of the United States and put in these positions as head of the departments that they work for. If they're not going to do that, they shouldn't be working there, certainly not in policy positions, which is what this is limited to. So it's not trying to fire the people who are taking care of the buildings or securing the buildings. They're bureaucratic policymakers. So they are people that still have to do with inputting policy. And it shouldn't take, as it does right now, and we know this from our work with people like Lois Lerner, it shouldn't take the potential of criminal policy. conduct to have to remove a bad employee. Certainly that's not how the private sector works and it's not how the public sector should work either. If they are thwarting the will of the American people by disregarding the instructions of the president or the president's executive, basically cabinet, then they should be gone. They should be removed from that position. But we know, Will, that is going to be a massive lawsuit. So the ACLJ team Here upstairs, before I was in the radio studio, we began working on putting that team together.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, Jordan. And as I look at these executive actions that were taken yesterday, I kind of put them in two categories. You have a lot on the border and securing the border, which is clearly a mandate of the American people, and then draining the swamp, getting rid of the deep state, whether it be the executive order on ending censorship or or the ones that are more directed towards the hiring practices, the merit-based system, telling people they have to come back to work. And those are all things that both sides, both the border and the draining the swamp category, I think will get a flurry of lawsuits as we're already seeing. And while the one on Doge that was filed minutes after Trump was sworn into office, it's trying to focus in on a 1972 law And it's filed by a group called National Security Counselors. And what they're saying is that Doge meets the requirements to be considered a federal advisory committee, which is a legal entity regulated to ensure the government receives transparent and balanced advice. And they are required to have fairly balanced representation, keep minutes of meetings, allow the public to attend, file a charter with Congress and more. which they're alleging in this lawsuit that doge hasn't done i feel like this one could have been a premature lawsuit and that's why we want to get in on it early because you look at this and they're making these assumptions however doge is just an idea until the president becomes president yet they file the lawsuit minutes after he takes office he can't establish something before he's president he can't do all these necessary requirements before he's president so they're making the assumption that it won't be under that class of a legal entity a federal advisory committee maybe it will uh they're also telegraphing maybe things that they could get around this but i feel like this lawsuit is one that we need to get on early because it could be a pretty quick win where some of the others you know the deep state is going to fight hard about going back into the office being able to be fired those lawsuits are coming too But you can't just let one slip away in these early stages. And that's what we're prepared to do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Really, this is what the person on the Doge complaint is complaining about. It's so Washington, D.C. that this is the complaint, if I can just get it out. It says that the panel is breaking a 1972 law that requires advisory committees to the executive branch to follow certain rules on disclosure, hiring, and other practices. Like you said, Will, we're not at that point yet of Doge. From what I know, Elon Musk has not been paid anything. They might have people who... have been working on the outside during a transition that was being paid for, not by the federal government, by the way, but by, again, it's a mix of dollars that every incoming administration can receive. And there may have been teams that were working on, okay, what is this going to look like? Is this going to be something outside or inside the government? I think we're still waiting to get the exact answers on it. But the lawsuit's saying is... You can't have it because they want the disclosure, they want the hiring, they want it all to be basically available by FOIA. I'm not saying ultimately it wouldn't be, but usually commissions within the White House and work that is inside the White House is not subject to FOIA. So while they're talking about the record keeping, if this is an advisory committee, depending on what level it is to the president of the United States, the FOIA angle is very difficult for these legal organizations who, again, are just trying to make trouble. in the first 24 hours of President Trump's second presidency. A lot of these are premature, but like you said, Will, we know voters were encouraged by these. They want to see action. They want to see what someone like Elon Musk and his brain can do when looking at a department and you know that half these buildings are still empty in Washington, D.C., But you should imagine that in all the empty chairs you see in those pictures, in every empty floor, there's a person being paid, working from home, and that's their chair. And that's their desk. And that's their building. So that is what we're trying to get a handle on first in Washington, D.C., is making sure that making absolute sure that Washington gets back to work and those that don't can't just have a free ride here. And so a lot of those executive orders, you know, they fit together on two things, Will, getting things back to work and then protecting Americans again. I even believe there's going to be lawsuits on sending military to the border. Though the president certainly has, I think, the power, especially if the states concede. So I think most of those states will. Some might not. That's not as big of an issue. But you could see a California or some others on the left trying to say, well, this is you're trying to put. know federal martial law on our state's borders but in fact our borders are not controlled and governed by states or state laws they are governed by the federal government it is article one of the constitution and this is again a role outside of the states but even that idea of let's send some military Get some plans there so that the fentanyl stops and the human trafficking stops. And you see these kind of dual tracks of a government that works for its people. And how does it work for its people? One, it's by getting inflation under control, getting the economy back on track. And then second... is protecting the American people from the poorest border, which is killing Americans with fentanyl, which is making us a leader in sex trafficking around the world. These are not issues where we want to be number one in, and it is why the ACLJ will, this morning on, we're ready to fight, and we already are.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. That's right, Jordan. And if you look at these two different categories, as we talked about, both the border and the government efficiency, these lawsuits are trying to make America less safe and to try to make America less efficient, trying to protect wasteful spending. But we at the ACLJ, it is time for a big change. And that's why you can take urgent action. Go to ACLJ.org slash sign and become an ACLJ champion as well. We are going to work in tandem with Doge and these government agencies to cut funding for the efforts. We will defend these actions in court. Go to ACLJ.org slash sign and sign the petition.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Welcome back to Sekulow. So it is here. President Trump has been inaugurated. And this is, again, day one, really, of his work began right after he was inaugurated. You know, that's the kind of president he is working on those executive orders. We've been working through some of those as well for you, looking at ones that we think we need to be prepared to help the Trump administration defend. Lawsuits are already being filed against the administration. But You do want to take a moment and I think understand what has happened in the last 24 hours in the United States and how it impacts the world. I mean, a huge shift in the issues, the way we see our leaders see the world, who will be advising them, the team that President Trump is building, the... the reaction from world leaders. I mean, all of this is going to be something we keep a close eye on, obviously, and work closely with here at the American Center for Law and Justice. But there has been a massive change in Washington, D.C. It was clear, even though the streets were pretty empty because it was so cold, that people are excited because they remember the what President Trump was able to get done in four years. And now that we kind of have this list of goals that he's been talking about, not just for the last campaign cycle, but since he was in office, that he is ready to implement and go for. I know that we've got a lot of phone calls coming in. If you want to talk to us, 1-800-684-3110. Will, let's go to the phones.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and Jordan, I know we saw that one of these orders undid 78 executive actions of President Biden. So a lot of that is being left behind. It's a new day. So we're not going to focus too much on the work of Joe Biden. But Beverly does have a call on line one that I think we should get into. A lot of these pardons happen. right before the inauguration. And yesterday we focused on the inauguration, didn't really get time to talk about that. So I think it'd be good to answer Beverly's question from Oklahoma. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 01 :
Hi, my question is, I thought pardons were for people who had already been convicted of a crime. I didn't know you could give a pardon to a person that hadn't even been arrested for a crime.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, the pardon power is very broad. It only relates to federal law. And you saw with Joe Biden issuing those pardons to family members, including pardons he said he would never release. So that included Hunter Biden. But also his brother. And Will, I mean, the situation here is that so long as it's somehow probably connected to the work of President Biden, and I think that's likely why he did it, is all those investigations that have been going on and that could be restarted. Because now that he's out of office, remember what they did to President Trump. in his family when they were out of office. So he's now gone forward. And I think it's interesting because they practiced extreme lawfare against President Trump, right? I mean, extreme lawfare. We're talking state courts and bookings and having to take mug shots. So you had three states, three federal U.S. attorneys coming after him. You had the Mueller, you had the two impeachments. And you know what Joe Biden's figuring out? You know what? We were pretty horrible to this guy. And he's now in charge of the U.S. government. And if the theory holds that what my Department of Justice was doing to him is okay, well, I guess, you know, if his Department of Justice and Pam Bonney believe that there was more criminal conduct there, now that I'm not president and... won't have some of those immunities right off the bat, that President Trump actually went to court and fight for all presidents, that, you know what, I'm in jeopardy and so are a lot of members of my family because of what the left has done to our legal system.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And also to Beverly's question about someone doesn't have to be convicted to get receive a pardon. You also remember Joe Biden gave that broad pardon to Hunter Biden after the election that included 10 years back when Joe Biden was vice president of things that he may or may not have done. It was very wide sweeping pardon. But you also look at these preemptive pardons that wouldn't consider anything future looking. But you look at the pardon for Dr. Fauci, you look at the January 6th committee, those preemptive pardons, once again, that Biden criticized when it was talked about and thought of that Trump might do after Biden. the 2020 election, but he didn't do. They went after Trump for this concept that he may do these preemptive pardons, but he wasn't the one that did it. In the end of the day, the one who now set this precedent is President Biden, who came forward and gave these broad sweeping preemptive pardons to members of his family, as well to members of the January 6th committee, as well as to Dr. Fauci and some others. Interesting, Jordan, because one thing the president did, he fulfilled a campaign promise is he issued on the first day 1500 pardons for those involved in the January 6th scenario. And what I think Joe Biden actually did, I didn't think that was going to be a day one pardon from President Trump. I thought maybe they would get in, they'd look at it and find the right timing. But in reality, I think Joe Biden gave Trump the go ahead. go forward because of his pardoning activity these last few weeks of his presidency, including minutes before he was no longer president when he pardoned his family. Donald Trump was already in the Capitol. The ceremony had started when the White House pushed out that pardon notice to the members of the family. So I think at that point, all bets were off in the one who set the precedent for these kind of pardons, which the Constitution very broad on, but scholars like to point to the traditions that presidents have had and the norms. The Constitution doesn't set those norms, but Joe Biden's the one who now set precedent for for very broad, wide-weeping pardons that are extremely political if you look at them on their face. And I think that's what we saw play out over the last 24 hours.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, absolutely. I think what we are seeing through those pardons, too, I mean, the 1,500 people, is that these people have already served, for the most part, years in prison. Some of their prison sentences were just outrageous based off the conduct. 22 years, 18 years. um it's just the sentences really did not match uh the crime uh of trespassing and um they you know were others were some were treated differently than others but but again when you saw the kind of who got what sentence i mean it was kind of randomly someone would get 14 another person would get 22 so president trump i think again The left is going to always – there's always going to be the Adam Schiff's with the world. That is still their obsession even though he's now in the U.S. Senate. But you know what President Trump is saying? Listen, Joe Biden is pardoning his entire family from future actions and future investigations. People that have already spent four years in prison for – illegal act of trespassing, certainly committing crime, but for over four years, it's time for them to go. And that's exactly what he did by issuing those pardons. I think a lot of families would be very excited to be reunited with their loved ones again, who were not imagining this kind of horror because of where they happened to be, maybe at the wrong place at the wrong time. Support the work of the ACLJ as well. We're going to get to work on a lot of these cases with the Trump team. Donate today. We've got to have the attorneys ready to go as they are at ACLJ.org. We'll be right back from Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let's sing it tonight. Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, welcome back to Sekulow. As you can see, we're in Washington, D.C., attended some of the inauguration festivities. This week, it's been a big inaugural week from Monday to Monday for, one, our ACLJ colleague, J.B. McCuskey, coming to West Virginia. Attorney General just a week ago and was excited to be at his inauguration on what was a pretty cold day in Charleston, West Virginia, but the inauguration was still outside. I don't think it was too many degrees below freezing. And then in my second home of Washington, D.C., it was, I think we were walking into one of the inaugural balls last night, somewhere around 19 degrees or 18 degrees. And you know what that hasn't done? It has not slowed down the work of this administration to get right to work on fixing some of the wrongs you can do right away through executive order and also getting those key people in place. You might have seen with Secretary Rubio that vote 99 to 0. So again, we're starting to get leaders to their departments to really... take control, not just of the White House, but of the massive departments within the executive branch. And, Will, I want to keep taking people's calls at 1-800-684-3110 because things looked a little different yesterday. I mean, it was, you know, an inside swearing in, so you had a much smaller crowd. You've got, you know, you... So what you saw outside here, and it looks kind of like a martial law zone, wasn't really necessary because lots of people didn't come into the city because there wasn't going to be anything outside. And so it was a bit different of a day. And I will tell you, security still, as people can imagine, is very high when you have these transfers of power. Lots of former presidents here and other world leaders. But I think what was unique is that... with President Trump is that with all that work he had to do yesterday of starting early with breakfast and teas in the White House and the this and the that, I think really what was first on his mind was when he could sit down and get to work and start signing those executive orders. And that's exactly what he did, which is make good on those campaign promises.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, Jordan, and we're going to get to call here in just a second, but you mentioned Senator Rubio, now Secretary of State Rubio, after being confirmed 99-0, he didn't vote for himself. So that is our first cabinet member that is there, confirmed unanimously, but also moved out of committee are John Ratcliffe, Pete Hegseth, and Kristi Noem. So we expect votes on them soon to be CIA Director, Secretary of Defense, and Department of Homeland Security Secretary. But let's go to Michael in Florida on line two. Michael, you're on Seculo.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gentlemen, I just wanted to say that of all the Mondays in the past four years, yesterday was far and away the best.
SPEAKER 03 :
Michael, I think a lot of people had that feeling. Many people dread a Monday, but I saw a lot of memes going around saying the one Monday everyone is happy to be here is this Inauguration Monday. And Jordan, how was it to be there in the city?
SPEAKER 07 :
Um, you know, it's nice when you're in, it's a bit because of the weather. So, um, and, and the fact that, you know, a lot of things closed down here on inauguration day because it's just too hard to move around. Uh, but because of the weather, uh, you weren't on the streets as much. There weren't as just mass people everywhere. So there was a protest, there was a protest zone, but you like had to like drive to it to get to it. So, um, and yeah, it was again not like they thought it might be because of the weather so it was kind of unique in this transfer of powers the Biden liberals were gone and the Trump team was back in Washington D.C. and so when you walked into hotel lobbies again and places like that you recognize the people that you've worked with and you see the smiles on people's faces because again it's happy warriors going to work for the American people to make their lives better
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, Jordan. As we come to a break here, we have Jeff Balaban, who is in Jerusalem, going to share a little bit about what it was like in Jerusalem yesterday when we come back, as well as an update on the three Israeli hostages that were released on Sunday. You don't want to miss it. Stay tuned and go ahead and sign our petition as we fight back against the new lawfare of the left. Go to ACLJ.org slash sign.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, welcome back to Secular. We are taking your calls too at 1-800-684-3110. I'm in Washington, D.C., been doing a lot of travel the past seven days. Again, all positive to see friends and allies taking on new positions in these inaugurations happening in states and, of course, in Washington, D.C., and not just President Trump yesterday. But to see Pam Bondi there, to see Tulsi Gabbard, to see Senator Rubio, the list goes on and on. It's an exciting moment to know that a lot of people that we've worked closely with, Governor Noem and others, that so many of the issues, whether it was Homeland Security, whether it was the Department of Justice, the FBI with Kash Patel, that we have... been having to fight on your behalf. And I mean, they have come after conservatives, these radical traditionalist Catholics, and tried to hide the ball from the American people, that that is not going to be done anymore. And that there are people now being put in place who are not only going to do the right thing, but are going to ensure that the bad actors are removed. And that was an important part of the president's executive orders that he signed yesterday, especially on the one making it easier for these civil servants to be reassigned or removed from their positions if they refuse to carry out the policy of our nationally elected leaders like the president and his cabinet they shouldn't have to commit a crime to be removed if they don't want to follow the directions they should be fired or moved to a division that doesn't have policy making authority now will there be lawsuits on that sure are there already lawsuits being filed on some of these executive orders yes are we going to fight back against them Yes, we will. But I also want to give you an update on Israel, because the foreign policy implications of bringing in a new president, we already started to see with this deal between Israel and Hamas. Remember, President Trump saying he thinks a lot of these conflicts will be coming to a close as soon as he's president. I want to go to Jeff Balbon right away, who oversees ACLJ Jerusalem. And Jeff, in part of that three-part plan with Hamas, the first hostages were were released by Hamas that was tied to this plan and then two of them were individuals who we worked with them and their families and thankfully these are two who are going home alive.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, yesterday was an extremely emotional day here in Israel. The whole country feels very, very small. The whole country feels very, very involved. Every life really matters here. And their names are known, their pictures are known. Everywhere you go here, you see pictures of the hostages, dead and alive. And to see these three women come home, as you point out, two of which we actually advocated for during this past 15 months, see them come home alive, even though obviously their stories are brutal and painful. And even though the deal is a brutal and painful deal, this clearly would not have happened had it not been a change in administration. And there's tremendous gratitude for their lives, for them coming home to their families. And it was just announced very recently, just in the last hour or two, four more are being released this coming Saturday. They're doing this on Saturday, which is the Sabbath here, but they have not announced the names as of the last reports.
SPEAKER 03 :
And Jeff, as we look... Oh, go ahead, Jordan. Go ahead, Will. Go, go ahead. Yeah, Jeff, you mentioned that it's a new day in a new administration, and I did want to pick up on that a little bit because you're back in Jerusalem. You had been here for the holidays back in Israel, and you actually went to some festivities last night, and you saw the celebration. The people of Israel know... that it is a new day with their ally in America. And as we watch the TV, we know that Elise Stefanik is currently before the appropriate Senate committee for her nomination to be the ambassador to the UN. She's speaking very highly about how aggressively she's going to work to defend Israel there. But go through a little bit of what it was like in Jerusalem yesterday on what you would normally not think of as something that people in another country would be having parties and festivities surrounding the inauguration of a different nation's leader.
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Well, look, the relationship that Israel has with the United States really is a unique relationship. It's very special. It's beyond merely just the interests. It is the interest, but it's also just the values that are shared. And there's a sense of community, one country with the other. You know, the only 9-11 memorial anywhere in the world that has the names of the people who were killed in 9-11 in America is here in Israel, actually in Jerusalem. So this... Yesterday, let's put it this way, walking up to a big event in Jerusalem, huge posters, huge billboards outside congratulating Donald Trump saying, we love you. There you go. So that is at the Friends of Zion Museum in Jerusalem. And as I'm walking up, I hear the strains of proud to be an American blasting in the streets and walk inside and there's a watch party. Oh, there you go. And... uh people were dancing to ymca and then there's a watch party and in addition to what everyone saw in america that special guests come by video they had mike huckabee the incoming ambassador god willing uh who's a huge supporter of israel and also sends a message there you go there's a picture of mike huckabee on the screen We were watching. They had David Friedman, the former ambassador, who's also well-loved and obviously a close friend of the president's. And so there's a real feeling of optimism going forward. And again, it's a very emotional and difficult time here in Israel, and it has been for a while. And even while this process is difficult, there's a tremendous feeling that there's a new day with President Trump. We're looking forward to peace breaking out once again in the Middle East instead of war, which is exactly what happened when President Trump was president the first time, the Abraham Accords. And that's what the hope here is and the anticipation here is in Israel.
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Yeah, I mean, Jeff, I saw it again yesterday at the events really leading up to the inaugural all weekend, the excitement level from just all of the folks who work on these issues, whether it is Israel, other conservative issues, policy issues, that finally we've got people in place that are going to be put in place, not just at the White House, but in the various departments. who not only share our views, but maybe have gone through this ringer once already in the first Trump administration and maybe have moved up the ladder and are ready to go into either relaunching some programs that were already working and really... reworking our relationships with nations like Israel. And the idea that this relationship that was getting a bit nasty between the Biden administration and the Israeli government, that this is a new day for America and Israel. It shouldn't have to be like that. It shouldn't be a partisan issue. It certainly has become one for the left. And maybe in their after actions report, they'll realize that It's probably not good siding with Hamas over Israel during an election year.
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Well, in Israel, it's extremely important. And I hear this over and over again from in the government, from in the Knesset, which is the parliament here, tremendous concern that they don't want this to be a partisan issue. They want, they are America's friend. They want both sides in America to be Israel's friend and they need it. And yes, this has been a very difficult period. You know, Biden did not treat them nearly as well. And there's a history, but this really started with President Obama. And again, that was the Obama-Biden administration, where the policy from both sides, meaning Democrats and Republicans, numerous presidents had no sunlight or no daylight between Israel and America, that Israel knew what to expect and America knew what to expect in the region. And that was broken. And there was fear that a Harris administration would be even worse. So going back now to a president who showed his great friendship and his understanding and a true breakthrough. A lot of people didn't understand why he would not have gotten a Nobel Prize for the amazing piece that he brought to the Middle East. And so there's a lot of anticipation that will happen again. And that's why we work on this. That's why we work on this here today. in Israel and in Washington to help bridge those communications. And by the way, you mentioned earlier Elise Stefanik and other signs of early help is the president's view on UNRWA, on the UN agency that keeps this horrible situation of basically they teach Palestinians to hate Israel. They're the ones who run those schools. They raise the terrorists. And then it was found out that they were actually involved. Many UNRWA employees were involved in the horrors of October 7th, in those atrocities, and that their bases were used in Gaza to harbor terrorist material and weapons. And so, you know, the president sees this clearly and there is a new day already dawning starting day one. Thank God.
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Jeff, thank you so much for joining us today and for that great report and for also showing us what it looked like there. But, you know, our work doesn't end as well. Just as there are lawsuits fighting against the actions of the new administration, you know that even if the president tries to move funding away from things like UNRWA and from the United Nations in certain ways, The left is going to try to sue over that. The left decides that they are textualist when it comes to the law as soon as it's a Republican or a conservative in office. All of a sudden, that's when the law matters and they're going to try to find obscure 1970s laws to bring lawsuits about things like Doge or no, you didn't move that money. Specifically, properly, you have to keep funding UNRWA even though they are supporting terrorism, training terrorists, and actively engaging in terrorism in some cases. But we're not going to stand for it. We uphold the law. We fight to uphold the law. We believe in the rule of law here. And we're going to keep doing that. And that's what we're going to do under a new administration as the lawfare continues. The lawfare against President Trump in his personal life may be over for now. But they're now focusing all that energy on his administration, trying to stop him from restoring what the voters put him in office to do. And you can join us. Go to ACLJ.org slash sign to sign our petition as we move forward and fight back against the left's new chapter of lawfare. Join us. ACLJ.org slash sign.
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Welcome back to Secular.
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We got a lot of calls to get to. Will, let's get right to them. That's right. We're going to go to John calling from Washington State. He's watching on YouTube. He's got a question about the birthright citizenship executive order. John, you're on the air.
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Yes. The birthright citizenship, in my opinion, I do believe it should be limited to those who are here lawfully, like people on a visa or or on a other green card, not someone that has brought their children or brought a pregnant wife across the border and that child being born in the US getting immediate citizenship. I think there should be some other kind of limitations like spelled out in the executive order.
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That's right, Jordan. So the title of it, and then I'll get your thoughts on it, but just for the audience as well, is Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship. And it says the privilege of United States citizenship does not automatically extend to persons born in the U.S. when one, the person's mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the father was not a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident. or two when the person's mother the person's mother's presence in the u.s at the time of said person's birth was lawful but temporary such as but not limited to uh under the auspices of the visa waiver program or visiting on student work or tourist visa So it's not as the news wants you to believe that it is an ending of birthright citizenship. It's saying that in these categories, if it's an illegal immigrant who comes over to have a child, they are doing that to try and get the citizenship for their child. Or if it's something like a tourist or work visa where they're not really meant to be here a long time, it should invest in that way. The ACLU is already sued. But Jordan, what are your thoughts?
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Well, I think that, and the way this works, too, is it looks at the mother, but it also looks at the father. So if the mother, for instance, is here illegally, and the father is not a citizen or is not a lawful permanent resident, so you don't have to be a citizen, but even a green card holder. So if the mother is here illegally and the father has no status at all, then you would not get birthright citizenship. If the father does have... lawful residence not citizenship but lawful residence like the green card you would still get U.S. citizenship even that would correct the issue with your mother either not having being here legally or not having a long-term visa like permanent residence like a green card and so that they look at that both from the aspect of again are you looking at with the citizenship angle and you look at it from the mother's side or the father's side. So again, it can be corrected. So you look to both parents, and then you can determine whether or not under these new definitions and more clarified definitions, if you meet birthright citizenship. One of the things they're trying to get a hold on is birth tourism. You see that a lot in places, one place where I live, like in South Florida, where people would plan, pregnancies and plan to be in the United States if they had the resources around the time they would have their child so that even though they had no citizenship whatsoever and no permanent residence in the U.S., that their children would forever be U.S. citizens. And so that would prevent some of those activities. Of course, this is going to be challenged. But what we do know is that if Congress gets in and backs up the president, on some of these executive orders. When it's Congress plus the president, that is a very strong case in front of the U.S. Supreme Court. So I think a lot of these executive orders are saying, this is what we want to get done. Congress, you need to come aside and you need to start passing similar language. So it's not just relying on who the president is that determines who's going to get citizenship in America, that our laws are going to catch up to the realities that we have to deal with.
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That's right. We're going to go back to the phones. We've got James calling from Tennessee. James has a question that we're seeing kind of a trend in as well. It's about back to that pardon issue. James, you're on the air.
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Uh, yeah, you guys, uh, in reference to the pardons, uh, let's say for instance, Dr. Fauci, uh, he is, he's a federal pardoned, but that does that include that, uh, North States, for instance, Tennessee, can Tennessee AG, uh, put, put him through court because he, right now he's being a pardoned. He doesn't have the fifth amendment, so he has to talk. Correct.
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Well, so it's kind of a two-part question, James, and I'll get Jordan's follow-up on that. One, could a state theoretically bring a charge against someone like Dr. Fauci if they committed a violation of the law of that state? I think a lot would depend on that, but I'll get your take in a minute. But also, the second is what a lot of people are pointing out, that especially before the congressional committees that want to investigate things like the origins of COVID— if that threat of prosecution is taken away from someone like dr fauci because of under federal law they to some degree lose the ability to claim fifth amendment protection because there is no jeopardy of them incriminating themselves if they've already been pardoned of that hypothetical crime jordan what are your two thoughts on those angles you
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the question is though is that if the state which again the pardon doesn't apply to state laws can find any jurisdiction do you still rely on that when you are testifying to say that you know what I could be incriminating myself because while it's clear the federal government Has pardoned me and made this speech clear. And so that's been lifted. If states are showing any interest in taking action against him individually, would he try to use that? And then, of course, that ends up usually getting litigated. are colors right usually when you get this kind of pardon in a federal direction and it's a singularly kind of federal case or situation that means that you can no longer rely on that not to answer questions in a court of law or a congressional hearing because it cannot be used against you to prosecute you this is a little different because you have officials here whose acts not only impacted the federal government, but of course they impacted citizens in states around the country. And we'll just see. There's always got to be a balance here, but we'll see. how people, and this is about Republicans, but how they look in the past and how they look forward and how much time do we want to spend looking backwards and how much time do we want to spend looking forward at getting things accomplished and not just beating up on those who thankfully are no longer part of the government.
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That's right. And we are running short on time. But our three callers, Bob, Hallie and Joseph, thank you so much for calling. Very similar in line with that. A lot of people are interested in what happens to those officials that are, you know, still have questions lingering about some of their conduct. But I think we gave a good overview. Now we'll see what Congress does and we'll see what states do. But also, it can't be lost. Sometimes you have to look forward because if you get stuck looking on the past, sometimes you get caught up in it. and then you can't get forward with the work that we need to. And you know that the left is already trying to stop that work. They're filing lawsuits. The ACLU and states are suing against this clarification on birthright citizenship. This group, National Security Counselors, are suing over the Department of Government Efficiency. They'd rather a more inefficient government be left in place. That's effectively what their lawsuit is asking for. I can't think of a single human that really wants a less efficient government, except for those on the left that will sue over it. But you can join us today as we get to work. As Jordan mentioned, he's in D.C. He's working with our legal team, crafting the plan. You be a part of it. ACLJ.org slash sign and join us today.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So cops in Coconut Grove are seeking a thief who was wearing a Jesus Save shirt. But not him because he committed a crime. I mean, of all the things to wear while you're committing a crime, that shirt. OK, this is in Miami. They're seeing a man caught on camera wearing a Jesus Save shirt. He was stealing, which pretty sure Jesus doesn't like. And they have got him on camera showing up to homes at like one in the morning. and he stole one victim's vehicle. And they said that the Miami police are looking for him. I mean, it should be easy to spot him. He's in that same shirt and all the video footage. So a Florida storm drain trapped a 10-foot gator and triggered an urgent rescue response in a storm drain. Oh, my gosh. It makes me think of that scene from It when the little kid's there and he's going to It's going to float as a little sailboat. And you've got it that's like right there in the storm drain. This gator, 10 feet. It was in Cape Coral. It took an urgent rescue operation. 10-foot, 6-inch gator stuck in this culvert. And the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation ones got the photo. Can you imagine that popping out like sup? He was stuck, though. They had to use a winch to lift the storm drain lid and then let the gator go. They secured it on the truck and took it and released it in a safe area. Safe for the gator. Anyway, not probably for us, but that's okay. Let's see. This... Florida man was arrested because he was lurking around a bus stop. You know, that's a way that is a way to get beaten to death by an angry mom, either with a shotgun or a flip flop or both. Deputies arrested a Florida man because he was caught creeping at a children's bus stop. Polk County Sheriff's Office identified 37 year old Jonathan Lewis, who is a registered sex offender. He's being charged with violation of probation for failure to register. And he loitered within 300 feet of kids. No reason to be there. He just creeping. And they took him into county and they booked him into a jail, Polk County Jail. He looks like a predator. And he's been a registered sex offender. He had a convention in 2004, a conviction. And they said that he was standing amongst the small children and everyone, the witness said something was not right. And so they called the police. and deputies learned that he lived near the school, but he had no kids who went there, didn't know any of the kids who went there, couldn't give him a reason as to why he was hanging out amongst the kids at the bus stop, because he's being a pervert. Why is he living? Honestly, you're a child. Molester. You should be put to death. I am 100 percent for the immediate execution of all child predators. All of them. This guy, it is a failure of our justice system that this guy breathes. Moving on this Florida man story. He's a dirty burglar. He doesn't like robbing homes. Dirty. Apparently he broke into someone's home and took a shower. In Okaloosa County, they got a phone call from a destined homeowner at 530 in the morning on a Saturday saying a man broke through her glass bedroom door and she was able to hide in the bathroom and call for help. And they found when when Okaloosa County Sheriff's deputies arrived, they found 27 year old Harrison Lee dead. taking a shower inside her main bathroom she was in the guest bathroom he was in i guess the master the you know bathroom on the side of the master bedroom or you can't say master anymore can you because everyone's stupid uh but anyway he was in the master bathroom taking a shower and uh they showed up and they led him away in handcuffs he only was wearing a towel around his waist he has been charged with burglary to an occupied dwelling criminal mischief thankfully no one was injured but that woman had to be pretty terrified can you imagine Like you're sleeping and a guy busts up in your bedroom. You run to hide. And then he goes and takes a shower. He's in your shower. I'd have to clean my shower before I could use it again. That's nasty. That's just so nasty. Also, got a couple of other things. A Florida woman is charged with attempted murder because she stabbed a man in his male copulatory organ. Let's put it like that. stabbed him in his male copulatory organ. And witnesses said he was causing problems at the bar, calling the bartender vile names, being belligerent. It was at a tavern called Big Ugly Fish. And the woman, who's also a registered nurse, she pulled a knife on him because they couldn't subdue this guy, stabbed him. He's 63 years old. She fled on foot. Or he fled on foot. So, man alive, I tell you. It is a big week, and we're not just talking about Inauguration Day. Caltech has officially unveiled their brand-new pistol, the PR-57, and it's causing a huge buzz. Over a million views on the release video already, and you need to see why. Visit caltechweapons.com slash Dana today, right now. Check it out. 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Earlier today, first full day of Trump's presidency, and guess how it got kicked off? Well, they had the prayer service at the Washington National Cathedral, which is a fake church full of fake Christians and people dressed up like bishops who, I mean, even Satan can quote scripture to cite Shakespeare. And I just want to play for you what was unleashed. His first thing on his first full day, he's sitting there with his wife, with the vice president, with the vice president's wife, second lady. Listen to this. This happened at the prayer service in a supposed church.
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I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now. There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican, and independent families, some who fear for their lives. And the people, the people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals, they... They may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. They pay taxes and are good neighbors. They are faithful members of our churches and mosques, synagogues, wadara, and temples. I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you help those who are fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.
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For the love.
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Our God teaches us.
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You know what? He also says, give to Caesar what is Caesar and give to God what is God's. And he also extols people to follow the laws of the land and listen to your leaders. He also says that, too. It's not an unjust law. This woman, first off, this is why I don't like women preachers. I don't like women bishops. And I don't think women have any place in wearing these robes and standing in front of a congregation and running their mouths like this. This female is the exact type of female that Paul was talking about when he said to be silent in the church, ladies. That woman right there. Give me a break. You know what? I want to go back to John 2.15 for just a moment. When Jesus talks about in the Gospels, when the Gospels talk about Jesus making a whip out of cords and just unleashing and driving all these people out of the temple courts. And it even says that both sheep and cattle. He scattered the coins of the money changers. He overturned their tables, Matthew 21. He cast out everyone that was buying and selling in the temple. He overthrew the tables of the money changers. He flipped over the seats of those who sold doves. And he said, my house will be called a house of prayer and you have turned it into a den of thieves. This is the type of person about whom Christ was talking about. Right here. speaking unbiblical untruths and trying to put it behind the veneer of scripture from the pulpit. Shame on this devil woman. And I'm going to tell you her punishment when she dies. will be more than you can imagine because you remember scripture also, those that lead these ones astray, it would be better for them to have a millstone tied around their neck and thrown into the depths of the sea because shepherds and people who aspire to such a position are called to a high standard. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. And in this fake church, this church is nothing more than a coffin for a dead non-existent faith that they do not practice there. That church is a giant coffin. It looks real pretty, has its big columns, has its paintings, its mosaics, its statuary. But it is as alive as a cemetery. And don't think for one second that flipping over the money changers tables is an analogous to what this woman is doing. Oh, believe she is absolutely commercialized church. She is absolutely commercialized faith. She has politicized it. Let's pause for a moment about and let's think about it from this angle. The lives of the youth that you are ruining because you have a problem. pederast fetish with cutting off their breasts and their penises and taking chunks of meat from their thighs to turn it into a meat sickle that they pretend is a male copulatory organ. Let's talk about unnecessary cosmetic surgery, what these people do to themselves that make it to where they have to be on medicine for the rest of their lives and the ideology for which this demonic woman is advocating is targeting the youth. Let's spare maybe a little bit of sympathy, woman, for the children whose lives are irrevocably ruined because the adults in their lives are chasing activism, advocacy, and adjacent fame through that path than actually parenting and taking care of their kids. This is evil. I would have stood up and walked right the hell out of that church service. I would have gotten up and walked right out. I kind of wish Vance and Trump had done so. There's no way. I will not sit and listen to false doctrine. I will get up. I don't care if I'm in church or not. I will get up and walk out. And I'm going to tell you something. For the men that are in that church, they must be eunuchs. Because this is all they could get was her. There weren't enough men to do this. There weren't enough men who are trustworthy in the eyes of God to step up and take this position. So these eunuchs had to send out this devil priestess? Seriously? To spit this poison at a so-called national prayer service? And everyone's expected to sit there and be polite because we're pretending that it has anything to do with God or faith? I don't know what faith she subscribes to, but it's not anything that I've read in the Bible. She's preaching the perversion and abuse of minors as something that should be celebrated and protected. That's what a groomer would say. A groomer would say, no, no, no. These kids want it. They want it. We've got to protect that, you know, because they want it. Every adult should be looked at with a suspicious eye that says anything remotely near that, like what she's done here. I have zero courtesy for her. I have zero mercy. She should be run out on a rail like Elijah Lovejoy. Shame on her to do it. And well, it's not a house of God anymore. It's a den of thieves because she's commercialized it and politicized it such. I really wish POTUS would have got up and walked out. I wish that he would have gotten up and walked out. And then this white demonic priestess runs down a list of chores that she apparently thinks only people who immigrate or who come to the United States do. What in the racist world is this woman talking about? Now, I know the left is racist. The most racist people I've ever met have been on the left. I've seen some of them on my own famed family. I don't have nothing to do with them. They're on the left, like she is. And she gets up there and talks about, you know, they clean this and they do that. And, you know, it's a wow. Imagine being this female and you are so ensconced in your ivory tower that you don't know that people who aren't white can come to the United States and, oh, I don't know, create businesses. Some of them are a hell of a lot more successful than she or her family could ever aspire to be. And they come here legally because they're not dumb. They come here legally and then they add to the great American fabric and they add to the tax revenue and they add to the skill set. And they bring their own animating spirit, animated spirit of liberty. But all she sees is white and brown, white and brown. That's all she sees. She is the definition of an evil white racist. And the fact that she's in those robes, look at those stupid superfluous robes that she's wearing. It is a joke. It makes a mockery of church. It makes a mockery of Christ. It makes a mockery of faith. And this is what they did. This this is the prayer breakfast. This is how POTUS and the vice president are expected to start their first day. I don't have enough nice words. I will say Vance's face is pretty funny. Did you see Eric Trump's face? At one point, Eric Trump, you could tell. My gosh, if ever there was a time when a thought bubble almost appeared like in real life over someone's head, it almost like apparated out of the ether and perched itself over Eric Trump's head because you could almost read his thoughts on his face. He just said, you can see it. I watched the whole, every time it panned to him, I was looking at his face. I'm like, oh my gosh. But I would have gotten up. I would have gotten up unceremoniously and I would have walked right out. I would have walked right out of that service. I really wish that POTUS and the vice president would have done so. Because they don't they don't deserve to sit there like that and listen to that, nor does anyone else. And I'm not going to sit there and pretend that that has anything to do with faith or Christ or anything. I'm not going to sit there and pretend any of it. If you're going to spew that poison to me from behind the pulpit, that's not church. That's a that's that's a. Not even a political rally. You're just spitting poison and evil. I'm not going to pretend that we're doing this in the context of church. No, I'm out. I'm not fellowshipping with that. I'm not taking part in that. I'm out. Not a church at all. No, that was a demon wearing sloppy robes. Masquerading as a shepherd. She's a trans shepherd. We've got a lot more on the way. Oh, I have more things I could say about it, but I'm trying to rein myself in. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver. to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top-rated precious metals company, GoldCo, to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh, yeah. All right. So champagne sales have sunk because people don't want to celebrate. You know what? Because they haven't they haven't discovered spritzes. They haven't discovered things like a limoncello spritz or a French 75, which is named actually after 75 millimeter guns are used in World War One. But I digress. The champagne sales have sunk because people don't want to celebrate anymore. People aren't in the mood to say cheers. It's literally a study that came out. People are just like, they don't feel like super celebratory. And they said champagne sales are down across the board. Is it a generational... Steve, do you like champagne? Is it a generational thing? Well, you can get some dry... Yeah, I agree with you. Most of it's like... It's like drinking syrup. But, yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. A man pours his relative ashes in the mother's toilet. Oh, for the love. Okay, there's... Memphis, a man was arrested because police say he broke into his mother's home and poured a relative's ashes in her toilet. Police responded. Adele Totten had broken into a window, entered her home and took the cremated ashes of a deceased relative, dumped him in the toilet. And then he took some stuff from the apartment as well. He's been charged with aggravated burglary. Here's the other thing. And abuse of a corpse. I didn't know that that's a charge that you could have applied to you if it has to deal with ashes. Not that I was planning on doing anything, but that's just an interesting bit of trivia to know. You know, anyway. Women or a woman intentionally started a house fire with Takis chips. Now... These are not that spicy. Come on. She's accused of using Tacky's chips to start a fire with three other people inside. Now she's going to prison. Patricia Williams, first degree arson. It was last year in Greene County. She's just been sentenced. And she said that she used the chips because she knew they would support the combustion because of the grease content. And guess what? She was correct. Man, how do you feel about those? I mean, nobody was killed in the fire, but still, good heavens. That poor chip company. A brain surgeon was let go by the hospital because he allowed his 13-year-old daughter to drill a hole into the patient's skull. There's certain things that you should not be. Take your daughter to work day. This was in Austria. A 33-year-old man was flown to the hospital with serious head injuries in an Austrian forest. They did surgery. And then the unnamed neurosurgeon is alleged to have allowed the teenage daughter to participate. They got in trouble.
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And I just want to say thank you for making it happen. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, here's what the media did. He's excited, right? Did you see him walk in? to the event. God love him. I know he sends rockets to space and he does all this cool stuff. But one of the cool things that he can't do is dance. And he comes out and he's so excited. You can see how excited he is. And he's dancing and it's hysterical. And the video's everywhere. So then he gets up and he's, you know, he's a hands, arms mover. I get that. I am too. It's just how he is. He's just excitable. This is what CNN, Audio Soundbite 22, this was the narrative they were pushing hard yesterday.
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I just want to look at that salute that he gave again. Just if anybody missed it, we'll just show it again. He's just wrapped up here. You can hear the. All right. So we just we just showed that we just showed that. Right. It was quick. I think our viewers are smart and they can take a look at that. But it certainly was. It's not something that you typically see in American political rallies. Put it that way. No, no, it was not something that you usually would see. And it was quick, as you point out. It was very quick, but it was it was in a moment of intensity for him as he came out dancing. And then he did that. He is a hero here.
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And I just want to say thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is what they're doing to him. This is what they're doing. They're like, you see that? He's not giving a Nazi salute. You absolute idiotic bitches. I'm sorry for those of you who have very delicate... ears and you're like, Dana, don't say that word. They deserve it. Because when you're going to impugn someone's character that way, you deserve to have brimstone thrown right back in your face. And they know it's false and they're saying it anyway. They're trying this stuff again. I'm going to tell you people something. I've been doing this stuff since the beginning of, before the Tea Party. Kicking off the Tea Party back in 2008. I am so tired of the everything I don't like is Hitler stuff. If that is all the analysis that you can offer, you're too stupid and ditzy to be on air to offer political analysis. It's shameful to watch other. I want women to succeed. I want women to be viewed as smart. But when these broads get on TV and they say stuff like this, you ain't doing me a lot of favors. You're not doing women a lot of favors. This is stupid, petty Karen nonsense, right? He's excited. He's saying hi to everyone. He's not giving a Nazi salute, you fetishists. Of course, these are the people that make apologies for Hamas, right? They're apologists for Hamas, but they want to see Hitler and everyone else. Not everything is Hitler, but they have no idea how to cope. They have no idea. So you know what they're doing? Have you picked up on the difference in how they're interpreting this this time around as compared to last time around? In the statement that she made, you don't see this at a political rally, and everybody went wild for it. And I don't believe that I'm reading too in between the lines on this. It honestly seemed to me like they were trying to impugn the characters of all of you. I mean, he touches his heart and throws it to the audience. That's what he was doing. Everybody claps. And these women, they're not just impugning Musk. They're impugning all of the people, the characters of all the people there and you watching at home. They're impugning. They're doing that for you watching at home. I am. I'm going to tell you something. If they start doing this, I'm going to go back to the Anthony Weiner days and I'm just going to go crazy A-double snakes wild on some of these people. And some of them need to be confronted because this is ridiculous. I'm not doing this anymore. My gosh, they've tried this nonsense six ways to Sunday. And it's too much. But that was the narrative. They were pushing. It was trending. Oh, my gosh. Everybody was like a talking point went out. You realize that you've got city members of Congress who are Democrats who literally played at whites-only golf courses until like maybe a decade ago? Ask Sheldon Whitehouse about that. Hell, Hillary Clinton was on stage. You know her husband? Bill Clinton played at a whites-only golf course and the New York Times in the 90s found out. The 90s found out quite by accident and ran that hit piece on him. It hurt him. interestingly you've never had a republican come out with a story like that but there are scores of democrats that have if you want to have a discussion about bigotry fascism you know all that nonsense there you go i'm just so tired of it this is all i've heard this is all i've heard forever and i'm just i'm so tired of it find a new line of attack but this is what they did all day yesterday oh my gosh you Because he's a powerful new weapon. Now, I want to caution everybody here. Again, and it's the Boromir test. I was watching the event inside when he did his, he gave his speech and he had the swearing in. Someone said he didn't, one of the gaps was that he forgot to put his hand on the Bible. I think he meant to. I mean, he had his grandmother's Bible and then he had Abraham Lincoln's Bible. So he had two Bibles for good measure, but they said he forgot to put his hand on the Bible. But I was looking at all the techocracy that was assembled. I mean, you had everybody there. I want to be real careful. They were standing in front of members of Congress, too, which I thought was optically interesting. But I want to caution people. Don't trade big government in for big tech. There's a limit. You've got to keep people on a short leash. This is something that has to be watched. There's a balance that can be kept. But it's a fragile balance. But it must be kept. But the way that the media was going about this last night, this is what PBS said. PBS tweeted this. They said billionaire Elon Musk gave what appeared to be a fascist salute Monday while making a speech at the post inauguration celebration for President Donald Trump in the Capital One Arena. That is legit what they said. They wrote this. This is again, PBS, PBS. We pay them. I pay an ungodly amount of taxes to the point where I can't hire more people because I got to give it to the government to do this stupid nonsense. They write, quote, some elections are important. Some are not. But this one, this one matter. They quote Musk. And then they said he puts his hand on his chest and then raises it in a salute similar to the Sieg Heil salute used by Nazis at their victory rallies. He touched his heart and threw it out to the audience. That's what he did. These people are asinine. Asinine.
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And as of today, TikTok is back.
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So, you know, I did a little TikTok thing. We have a guy, TikTok Jack, he's a young kid, like 21 years old. And we hired this guy and I went on TikTok. Can you believe what I'll do to win an election? And we went on TikTok. And Republicans have never won the young vote, the youth vote. They win a lot of votes, but they never won the youth vote. We won the youth vote by 36 points. So I like TikTok. I like it. I like it. A rich person has called me about TikTok.
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He wanted to block TikTok. Why did it change your mind?
SPEAKER 12 :
Because I got to use it. And remember, TikTok is largely about kids, young kids. If China's going to get information about young kids, I don't know. I think, to be honest, I think we have bigger problems than that. But, you know, when you take a look at telephones that are made in China and all the other things that are made in China, military equipment made in China, TikTok, I think TikTok is not their biggest problem. But there's big value in TikTok if it gets approved. If it doesn't get approved, there's no value. So if we create that value, why aren't we entitled to like half?
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Well, he makes a point. I mean, I get what he's saying here. But, you know, the idea of forcing I mean, that's the that's going to be the big debate is forcing the. sale of a company to the United States government. And to do that, you know, that's a pretty big, that's a pretty big thing. That's going to be a debate that comes up as we go. Because remember, as I said yesterday, it was supposed to be a temporary reprieve, not a permanent one. So we're, you know, we'll watch and we'll kind of see. And, you know, all of that. We'll, you know, we'll wait and see how the debate goes. But that's going to be, I mean, Gen Z was happy. It looks like they were happy. But, you know, you can't look at the short-term payoff. This is a super nuanced issue. And I still get all sides of it. But we're going to dive into that. We're also going to dive into all of the executive orders issues. that the President of the United States signed yesterday. So welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you, top of the first hour. And it's an insanely overwhelming busy day because we're getting ready for SHOT Show as well and following all of the latest with the news. And there's a flurry of 200 executive orders. And then, of course, you had all of the inaugural events last night. And in the freezing cold, I hope nobody gets sick. I hope everybody stays well. It's freezing. It's freezing. And then we got the polar stuff. We got the winter warning that's slated. Check this for the coast of Gulf of America. Oh, by the way, I don't know if you saw this, but Ron DeSantis of Florida is the first elected official, the first governor, to actually use Gulf of America in official documentation. He used it. Let me pull this up. Forgive me. Because if you guys saw how many windows I have open on my desktop, you would stroke out. You guys would. Especially some of you out there who were like, I don't know how you can keep all those windows open, Dana. I get emails daily from you neat freaks. God love you. But DeSantis had actually tweeted out a proclamation and it was like an energy thing. But he used the phrase Gulf of America. And I read it. I read it without without like someone saying, oh, it's the first time he used it. Right. I read it and I stopped for a minute. I was like, wait, what? Because at first I just read it over and I was like, yeah, my mind was like, sure. And then I went back and I'm like, oh, it's Gulf of America. It's the first time it's being used. So the events last night, the pageantry, as I said, I love the pageantry that we do. I love the pageantry of the United States and these events. It's fantastic. Then we have the cabinet. We've got a lot of confirmation votes today. It is official. Marco Rubio has been confirmed as Secretary of State. I mean, I have so much. This is I got to tell you guys the actions of the administration. It's like drinking water out of a hose. Lorraine and I are just treading water. I was talking to a friend of mine who's a reporter. God love her. And she's been on the show before. And I said, oh, how did you do? Because you had the inaugural events and she went to one media party and I just couldn't go. I can't go to the, not that I don't like balls, but it's cold and you're in evening wear and it's just not my scene. And I was talking to my friend and she said, I go, did you get any sleep? And she said, no, she was doing a lot of, she wrote a 1500 piece book bit on her phone. She had to go from, she was part of the press pool there when the president was at the White House. And then she and others had to do a quick change-a-roo and get to one of the balls. And she was writing all these stories on her phone. And I said, so did you sleep last night? And she's like, no one who works in media, and she goes, especially if they're conservative leaning, slept last night. She's like, she said, I filed no fewer than 11 stories. She filed 11 because the the executive orders, there were so many. Then you have the I mean, it was obvious that Rubio has had the votes. It's obvious that Hegseth has the votes. And so all of the transition is her. She's like, I filed 11 stories. There was a friend of mine sent me a picture of their colleague who was basically asleep in a hallway somewhere like, oh, my God. I mean, it's just crazy. Oh, my gosh, it's crazy. But it's good. It's like a good crazy. And we're going to go over some of these. I'm not going to go, I don't think you want me to go over all 200. I mean, I can, but I want to touch the big ones. I want to hit the big executive orders that are going to have either an immediate impact on you as it pertains to your bills, your cost of goods. uh your kids i want to we'll touch on those immediately also trade or natsec that's another another thing i we're going to touch on because there's just so many now you also have the issue with the raids right so i i used the image that i used last night on substack i don't know if i've ever gotten so many comments on um an image that i used for headlines you know it's just like a headlines It's what the subscribers get every morning. And they said this is the most perfect image ever. And it's Tom Homan. He's got red eyes. And he's like, you know, commence deportations. Commit. Initiate the deportation. Mass deportation. Because that's, you know, he's going through and he's saying, look, if you are here illegally, you have no documentation. You're here illegally. You've got to go. And I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. I mean, if people are offended over that, dear heavens, don't look at what the Irish do. For the love, do not look at what the Irish do. It's bad. I mean, not bad, but they're like hardcore. So Chicago police said that they're not going to assist in Trump's ice mass deportation raid. They're not going to assist in that. And then you have the I'm looking at all this other you. There's some other blue states or what they would call, you know, their sanctuary states. They're all kind of saying the same thing. They're like, oh, we're not going to assist in these. But this is where the AGs come in. And at some point, and in fact, it may be at SHOT Show this weekend because I know that there's some AGs that are going to be there. I mean, at some point, it establishes a precedent, correct? I spoke with a... a friend of mine who works in con law last night, and I said, I need you to explain this to me like I'm 10, because I feel like with enough of these cases, particularly coming from some of these red state AGs, you know, if you're arguing it through the perspective of being a NATSEC issue, a national security issue, then, you know, surely you can see that this might establish a precedent. And so that's, you know, that's something else that there's just so much to look at and I'm so pleased with it, but it's like drinking from a spigot and pray, pray for Juan because Juan's got to go to SHOT Show, cover all that. And then he's got to cover the millions of, the millions of, of the executive orders that are coming out and the immediate, the immediate, policy implications that those have. Like with the immigration, that's something that happened immediately. So a friend of mine was talking about the CPB app, and it schedules this. It'll schedule for you your court date, right? Like with your immigration judge, et cetera, et cetera. So all of that was getting canceled. Like a lot of those were canceled last night. And there was video of these people that entered illegally. They thought they got in after the deadline and it, you know, just wasn't happening. And they had their appointments canceled. So they're all freaking out. So, I mean, this is just, I've never seen anything like this. I've never seen a president of the United States at a rally immediately go through and say, Oh, Yeah, I want to sign these executive orders right now. Let's just do it right now. He did it at the rally last night. I don't know if you saw this. I think we got audio of this. He immediately was like, yeah, we're going to sign all of these here at the event. At the event. We're doing it at the event. So it was a big deal. Hang on, I'm looking over. We have 11,000 audio soundbites. God love it. So, ooh, do, let's, yeah, star five, star five. So the executive, one of the executive orders was withdrawing from the World Health Organization. Forgive me, I'm looking down at all of my notes and all of my soundbite numbers. Listen.
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Or nine. I can live with most of them. They took a very safe route. They don't have any bad ones up there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Withdrawing from the World Health Organization.
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Ooh, that's a big one. I can live with most of them.
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And then we have this. That was five. Then we've got nine. Listen to this. So this was I love the guy. I don't know who the guy that that was his aide that was right there who was like, yeah, this is what this one is. He noted that this is the order about mandating federal workers showing up in person, ladies and gentlemen, for work. Listen, audio soundbite nine. You got to show up to work.
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Sir, the next item, as you announced in your speech, is a requirement that federal workers return to full-time, in-person work immediately.
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So he starts at the rally signing all of these executive orders. Then he goes to the Oval Office, and they already have his challenge coins and his photos up. I'm looking at a picture. They have the whole shelf of his challenge coins. Then he signed... Over 100 there. I think he signed... Literally, people lost count. Sometimes I hate asking journalists to get confirmation on stuff because they give me different numbers. And then he... Oh, I want this. I know we've got to get moving for a break, but audio soundbite 10, please. This was a big one. Listen.
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First, we have a list of pardons and commutations relating to events that occurred on January 6, 2021. Okay, and how many people are in this? I think this order will apply to approximately 1,500 people.
SPEAKER 12 :
So this is January 6th. These are the hostages. Approximately 1,500 for a pardon. Yes. Full pardon.
SPEAKER 08 :
Full pardon or commutation?
SPEAKER 12 :
Full pardon. We have about six commutations in there where we're doing further research. Okay. Nice to see you.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a big deal. I want to dive into this because I've gotten, I've gotten some emails from some of you who are like, well, I don't think that all of them should have been pardoned. I want to talk to you about that coming up. That's going to be one of the big things that we dive into next break. Uh, because I have an explanation for you. That's going to make sense. And I need you, you're going to need to understand this. Uh, although I think a lot of you are in agreement with me. So we're going to get into all of that. I have so much for you. I'm going to try my hardest to get through everything today. Uh, Tonight, if you're a Substack subscriber, you need to sign up today because I'm doing a massive deep dive on all of this stuff. I'm about three quarters of the way through. And I need you to bookmark it because it's going to be all the executive orders, how it's going to affect you, when it's expected to be implemented. So stay tuned for that because that's coming out on Substack tonight because there's so much here. It's going to take a couple of days to go through. But this is stuff you're going to be so excited about. I love giving you great news and just sending you through like an exuberant week. I'm very excited about this. So bear with me. I have a lot of stuff. We're drinking out of a faucet today. We're a fire hose today, right? It's like Gen X drinking hose water. On January 24th, as the nation comes together for the March for Life, Preborn proudly stands in solidarity with the movement, reaffirming their dedication with the sanctity of Life Month and the protection of every unborn child. And more great news, the abortion pill reversal treatment is giving women a second chance to choose life, bringing babies back to life and empowering women. Join Preborn Ministries in supporting women in their darkest hours. With God's love and free services, Preborn's network of clinics are ready to help women choose life. And help start the new year right by supporting life just for $28. Just $28. You can provide one ultrasound with a gift of $140. You can help rescue five babies and your donation can make a real difference. And if you're able, consider a leadership gift to save babies. A $5,000 donation sponsors Preborn's network for 24 hours, rescuing 200 babies. Donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250 baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Donate today for the sanctity of life at preborn.com slash Dana.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so life-threatening cold weather to expand southward across the nation, impacting 235 million people, numerous counties. Look, it's cold. Get y'all's French toast supplies. Yens all don't need no more than a loaf of bread. So let's not, like, be buying up the whole bakery. It's going to be all right, but it's going to be cold. Get them coats out. We got that. I went long last segment, but I'll make it up to you. Exec orders next. It is a big week, and we're not just talking about Inauguration Day. Caltech has officially unveiled their brand new pistol, the PR-57, and it's causing a huge buzz. Over a million views on the release video already, and you need to see why. Visit caltechweapons.com slash Dana today, right now. Check it out. It's the Kel-Tec PR57. It's a revolutionary compact concealed carry pistol chambered in 5.7. It's ultra-lightweight, 20-round capacity. And here's what's the kicker. It's a unique top-loading design. It's slim, simple, and practical. You're not going to have a magazine. In fact, the PR57 loads directly into the grip. It's a rotary barrel design, and it reduces weight by 40% compared to the other 5.7 millimeters on the market. And it's not just innovative. It's built for real-world performance with ease of use in mind. So for a limited time, you can win your own Kel-Tec. Just head over to Kel-TecWeapons.com slash Dana. Enter their SHOT Show Week giveaway right before midnight Thursday, January 24th. That's a deadline. The winner, I'll announce it live on air. The winner, Friday, January 25th. So don't miss your chance to own the future of concealed carry. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com slash Dana. Kel-Tec. Innovation performance made in the USA.
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As of today, it will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders, male and female.
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God bless America. God bless America. I'm telling you what, I had a... Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. The bottom of this first hour. This is it. I love this, especially in government documents. And I was thinking about this executive order last night. So I have a college kid who is getting an apartment for his junior year in school. So he's having to sign all this stuff. and go through all the documentation. And I don't know, am I crazy? Or do they ask for a hell of a lot more for that stuff? Then I sound like I'm a million years old. It feels like they ask a million more things than when I was younger and doing all the same stuff. And I was thinking about the president's executive order because my youngest was like, when does that kick into effect? Because they had all of these government, it was like the federal equal housing thing, and it had all this gender language in it. So it's an equal housing opportunity document. It was a federal document that you had to read. And then you clicked and said, I read it. And that was with the application out of all of these things. And it was mentioning gender in it. And it said, I was looking at some of the questions. It was saying, well, what is your gender preference? And your gender preference. And then are you opposed to having, you know, a roommate that because for one of them, they try to pair you up with a roommate. Now, my college age son is so conservative. He will make you look like a communist. It is. You can't be surprised. He's super conservative, very cerebral. He is not a people person. God love him. He's a George Carlin, right? He's a young adult George Carlin. And he's like, I'm not down for any of that. I'm not down for it. It's ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. And I was thinking about all of this, right, as he said. So when does Trump's executive order kick into gear? Well, it looks like that's going to be something that's pretty immediate, according to the language of one of these executive orders. Now, this is important because as and Lorraine caught this, I had bookmarked this and totally forgot about it. And Lorraine's reminding me of this from Robbie Starbuck. He was saying that the FCC chairman, Brendan Carr, has just announced the complete obliteration of DEI at the FCC. So if you remember when Brendan Carr was the commissioner under Trump, right, the first term. It was more of a concerning, a conservative-leaning Federal Communications Commission. So they were able to hold all of this stuff back. Biden comes in, Carr's demoted to just being on the commission because he's a Republican, and they have a liberal take over as the chairman. And that's when they started in implementing DEI from their strategic plans. They incorporated as part of their budget a fiscal allowance for what are they? What are they are like a DEI department head chair or like DEI chair, something like that. So they had a they got like a DEI apartment in the FCC. I have no idea what that has to do with communications and broadcasting, but I digress. They had this equity plan. They had DEI incorporated as part of their economic reports as to where tax money was going. And then their performance plans, which charted the progress that they were making, they had DEI in... I mean, it's in everything. When you incorporate DEI into your operations for work... You are literally incorporating racism into it. And Brandon Carr just blew it TF up. It's gone. He had a two-page statement. And he says that in the very first section of the Communications Act, Congress stated that it created the FCC for the purpose of regulating interstate and foreign commerce. And he basically goes on to ask, what the hell does DEI have to do with this? So then bold letter, bold bullet points. He's like, this is done. He just Javier Malay all of it. All of it. Brilliant. Couldn't be happier. Brendan Carr. If I were president of the United States, I'd give Brendan Carr a medal. A freedom medal. I would. I'd give him one of them fancy medals. Because he deserves it. He fights them tooth and nail. That's his whole job. He goes into work every day and it's just a battle. So this is amazing. I have... To touch on a couple of quick things, and we're going to get into some of these executive orders. The acting FBI directors resigned hours after he took over the role. Chris Wray said he was going to resign as the temp director of the FBI. Kash Patel obviously already announced as the replacement. So Trump was pledging to, I mean, he was going to fire Wray at first opportunity, which is completely understandable. So then he was going to leave Deputy Director Paula Bates. to assume the role of the acting FBI director so that you have some kind of continuity until you get a new one. Then Abate quit the second he took over. I feel like Ray and Abate were not in communications. So he's gone. So then now immediately when that happened, Trump was ready. And within 12 minutes, he had replaced Ray in a bait from what one of my sources said. It was like 12 to 15 minutes with two other well-respected FBI leaders in the field. So they're ready for everything. I got to tell you, when Trump ran the first time, I like Trump and I know him personally. I've known him longer than a lot of people in media. I've known him for over a decade. And he's always been incredibly generous and they've always been incredibly kind. And I do not have a negative thing to say about the Trumps, even if I don't even if I don't agree with everything that they do. That said, in the beginning, I had written an editorial where I was questioning his Second Amendment issues because he didn't have a record. Oh, my gosh. People lost their minds over that. I never said I wouldn't support him in a general election. This was the primary. I said, you know, I got some questions because he doesn't have a record on guns. And this is a big deal. And I was really focused on the due process aspect of it as well. And I questioned him on this. I'm like, I can't. I always go for governors typically. Like it's a primary 2016. I think Trump or I think Snoop Dogg, by the way, doing a video where he's shooting Trump in the head was like a way worse than writing an editorial talking about why you were questioning someone's Second Amendment issues during the primary. But I digress. And it felt like the first term in 2016 was bumpy. And I felt like there were a lot of cooks in the kitchen that wanted different things. I have to say what I am seeing with the second term is entirely different. It seems disciplined. They are ready to rock. He knew. I don't know if you watched the full video of him sitting at the Resolute desk because there's a video out there that's like 40 something minutes long. And the guy is, his aide is handing him executive order after executive order to sign. And he mentions it and then Trump expounds on it. You know, for like a couple of minutes each time he signed it. He knew each one of these. Signed it. You should have seen the desk after he was signing everything. I mean, it was just stacked up like to his head. Very disciplined. And you can tell... because now it's not their first rodeo, that they were ready for every curveball. It's almost like they anticipated, oh, Ray's going to kick it over to a bait and then he's going to resign. They anticipated that resignation. They're ready to go. They have continuity. They've got an interim. Patel is waiting a confirmation hearing in the Senate. And I feel like Democrats are so overwhelmed right now with everything that they've done just in the first 12 hours that I get the sense that they're not going to put up as much of a fight for these nominees as you would expect. Because this is a Sun Tzu tactic to completely overwhelm them with action to where they have to step back, reevaluate, and only immediately first deal with what they think might be the most important. And with that, I think they're going to target birthright citizenship. And I think they're going to fight him on some energy stuff. One of the executive orders that he had yesterday, Paris Accord, we're out. Now, Democrats, let me warn you, Democrats are going to say, oh, it's horrible that he pulled out from the Paris Accord. They treat it like a treaty, but it was never ratified. So it's not a treaty. It's treated like one, but it wasn't ratified. So it's I mean, I don't know how you can argue that that's binding. When you do stuff with an EO, guess what? It can be undone with an EO. So that's the other big thing that I think they're going to fight him on. The third thing, now coming up, we're going to get into two media narratives. Because they're already starting with their BS. The first thing that they were starting was Elon Musk being all excited and throwing his arms around everywhere last night. And then they try to create a narrative out of that. That's number one. Number two, the issue, particularly as it pertains to some of the J6 pardoning, they're even trying to convince moderate Republicans that this is a bad thing. I will caution you on that, though, really quickly before we get into days of these United States. Even the most worst offense for the worst offense, because there were people who are breaking up the house that my tax dollars pay for and that pisses me off. They were so few, though. Everyone else literally was walking between velvet ropes. It was nothing like when Democrats took over the Hart Building or when they set bombs in the 60s, the Weathermen. You know they bombed part of the Capitol, right? The guy who launched Barack Obama's campaign in his living room, he was the head of a group called the Weathermen that was like legit bombing parts of the Capitol. Anyway, the J6 thing that they're trying to argue, the worst offense... The person who is serving their sentence for the worst offense for J6 is already four times worse, and I'm going to dive into this study, than what BLM, anybody BLM, including the arsonist, have served or done. That is why there is no standing for any of it. Regardless whether or not you think that they deserve tougher punishment, Democrats once again got over their skis. They poisoned any potential jury pools were to go to a jury trial. They omitted information from defense, which immediately invalidates. They withheld so much information. They refused to cooperate with the defense. They were fabricating entire scenarios involving some of these J6 people so that they could justify charging them with an elevated offense. None of this was fair, nor was it just. Punish people for their offenses appropriately. But that is not what happened here. And there is not an exception to that rule. There's not. We're going to talk more about that. That's why. I don't have a problem with any of the pardons. And you know what? You know who set the standard on that, guys? Ladies and gentlemen, you know who set the standard on that? Biden. When he pardoned his whole family. Two minutes before Trump took his oath. We're going to talk about that a lot more. I've got so much audio for you. We're going to dive into some of the TikTok stuff. We've got that. We've got the media malpractice and two narratives you need to watch out for. One of them they're already building. So you don't want to miss a single bit of it. We've got a super packed show as we move. 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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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Strangers who, in the face of that stranger, they see a neighbor. These are folks who understand the strength and the value of community, which is everyone coming together with a shared sense of purpose and identity as a community of people. And I just wanted to come by, most importantly, to thank them, those who have volunteered and have brought people together and have sacrificed so much, and our firefighters. And I mentioned to these firefighters the fact that California firefighters, time and time again, prove themselves to be the best.
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Is it mean to make fun of her now? Wait a minute. Note to self, when did you care about being mean? I don't know. She was speaking in L.A. in front of Los Angeles Fire Department folks. I don't know. I don't get her. She still is not going to. She just needs to fade away. Fade away. Because at this point, she's irrelevant. She's done. She's an embarrassment. And what's more, I cannot believe that we blew our shot at the first female vice president with her. With a woman who was so damn unqualified and unprepared for the role. It's really frustrating because it just makes it that much harder for like a Margaret Thatcher, like a real decisive, accomplished, strong woman. to make that same run in the future. So coming up, the big media narrative. They were trying to go to Elon Musk last night and they used the Hitler-Godwin's law thing. We're going to talk about that. I've got some big executive orders. And then the ones that are immediately already facing legal challenges. I'm going to break those two down for you as well. We have so much to get you set up with as we approach midweek. More of The Dana Show second hour on the way. Stay with us. As we move, of course, our partners over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is out there. And Patriot Mobile wants to save you money, and they also want to save your money from going to the things that you vote against every time you're at the ballot box, like DEI or... I don't know, gun control or abortion on demand funded by the taxpayer. And that's the thing with Patriot Mobile. I mean, you're getting the best coverage. You're always going to be getting the best coverage. It's always easy to get a hold of somebody at Patriot Mobile as well. And they have seamless switching. So right now you can get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Just visit Patriot Mobile dot com slash Dana. Or call 972-PATRIOT. And this is, again, nationwide coverage you can trust. They operate on all three major networks, so you're connected wherever you go. Seamless switching. They have a 100% U.S.-based customer service team. You're helping to create and maintain U.S.-based jobs. And they're dedicated to making your switch easy. You can keep your number, your phone. You can upgrade. You can change it. It's entirely up to you. I mean, it's never been simpler to switch. So visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get that free month of service with promo code Dana. Switch to Patriot Mobile today and defend freedom every time you text or tell someone justifiably that they're wrong on the internet. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana, 972-PATRIOT.
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I have to say, I'm looking at this crowd. I do not see many people of color. Does anybody else besides me observe that? I'm fascinated by why that is.
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There goes Gayle King immediately trying to inject race in this, as you knew she would. So ridiculous. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of the second hour. That's one of the media narratives that has kicked up. And it is... You knew it was going to happen. The other one, and I threw you a last-minute link, Juan, in the audio channel. The other one is this... This story with Elon Musk. So first, welcome Dana Lash with you. Top of the first hour. I listen coast to coast. Channel 347. DirecTV is the simulcast. The chat's over at Rumble. Find us at Substack. Chapter inverse. So I'm pulling up my audio here. So this the first one I'm going to play for you. This is bear with me. OK, so I actually know we have it. I think this is 22. I think I doubled you. Bear with me, everybody. Your girl's got a lot of info. So this was CNN. So this is audio. Let's do 21 first. This was the original. And then I want to do the CNN interpretation of it. Try that.
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And I just want to say thank you for making it happen. Thank you.
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Now, here's what the media did. He's excited, right? Did you see him walk in to the event? God love him. I know he sends rockets to space and he does all this cool stuff. But one of the cool things that he can't do is dance. And he comes out and he's so excited. You can see how excited he is. And he's dancing and it's hysterical. And the video's everywhere. So then he gets up and he's, you know, he's a hands, arms mover. I get that. I am too. It's just how he is. He's just excitable. This is what CNN, Audio Snowbite 22, this was the narrative they were pushing hard yesterday.
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I just want to look at that salute that he gave again. Just if anybody missed it, we'll just show it again. He's just wrapped up here. You can hear the. All right. So we just we just showed that we just showed that.
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Right. It was quick. I think our viewers are smart and they can take a look at that. But it certainly was. It's not something that you typically see in American political rallies.
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Put it that way. No, no, it was not something that you usually would see. And it was quick, as you point out. It was very quick. But it was it was in a moment of intensity for him as he came out dancing. And then he did that. He is a hero here.
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And I just want to say thank you.
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This is what they're doing to him. This is what they're doing. They're like, you see that? He's not giving a Nazi salute. You absolute idiotic bitches. I'm sorry for those of you who have very delicate... ears and you're like, Dana, don't say that word. They deserve it. Because when you're going to impugn someone's character that way, you deserve to have brimstone thrown right back in your face. And they know it's false and they're saying it anyway. They're trying this stuff again. I'm going to tell you people something. I've been doing this stuff since the beginning, before the Tea Party. Kicking off the Tea Party back in 2008. I am so tired of the everything I don't like is Hitler stuff. If that is all the analysis that you can offer, you're too stupid and ditzy to be on air to offer political analysis. It's shameful to watch other. I want women to succeed. I want women to be viewed as smart. But when these broads get on TV and they say stuff like this, you ain't doing me a lot of favors. You're not doing women a lot of favors. This is stupid, petty Karen nonsense. He's excited. He's saying hi to everyone. He's not giving a Nazi salute, you fetishists. Of course, these are the people that make apologies for Hamas, right? They're apologists for Hamas, but they want to see Hitler and everyone else. Not everything is Hitler, but they have no idea how to cope. They have no idea. So you know what they're doing? Have you picked up on the difference in how they're interpreting this this time around as compared to last time around? In the statement that she made, you don't see this at a political rally, and everybody went wild for it. And I don't believe that I'm reading too in between the lines on this. It honestly seemed to me like they were trying to impugn the characters of all of you. I mean, he touches his heart and throws it to the audience. That's what he was doing. Everybody claps. And these women, they're not just impugning Musk. They're impugning all of the people, the characters of all the people there, and you watching at home. They're impugning, they're doing that for you watching at home. I am, I'm going to tell you something. If they start doing this, I'm going to go back to the Anthony Weiner days and I'm just going to go crazy A-double snakes wild on some of these people. And some of them need to be confronted because this is ridiculous. I'm not doing this anymore. My gosh, they've tried this nonsense six ways to Sunday. And it's too much. But that was the narrative. They were pushing. It was trending. Oh, my gosh. Everybody was like a talking point went out. You realize that you've got city members of Congress who are Democrats who literally played at whites-only golf courses until like maybe a decade ago? Ask Sheldon Whitehouse about that. Hell, Hillary Clinton was on stage. You know her husband? Bill Clinton played at a whites-only golf course and the New York Times in the 90s found out. The 90s found out quite by accident and ran that hit piece on him. It hurt him. Interestingly, you've never had a Republican come out with a story like that. But there are scores of Democrats that have. If you want to have a discussion about bigotry, fascism, you know, all that nonsense. There you go. I'm just so tired of it. This is all I've heard. This is all I've heard forever. And I'm just so tired of it. Find a new line of attack. But this is what they did all day yesterday. Oh, my gosh. Eli. Because he's a powerful new weapon. Now, I want to caution everybody here. Again, and it's the Boromir test. I was watching the event inside when he did his, he gave his speech and he had the swearing in. Someone said he didn't, one of the gaps was that he forgot to put his hand on the Bible. I think he meant to. I mean, he had his grandmother's Bible and then he had Abraham Lincoln's Bible. So he had two Bibles for good measure, but they said he forgot to put his hand on the Bible. But I was looking at all the techocracy that was assembled. I mean, you had everybody there. I want to be real careful. They were standing in front of members of Congress, too, which I thought was optically interesting. But I want to caution people. Don't trade big government in for big tech. There's a limit. You've got to keep people on a short leash. This is something that has to be watched. There's a balance that can be kept. But it's a fragile balance. But it must be kept. But the way that the media was going about this last night, they're going to, this is what PBS, this is what PBS said. PBS tweeted this. They said billionaire Elon Musk gave what appeared to be a fascist salute Monday while making a speech at the post inauguration celebration for President Donald Trump in the Capital One arena. That is legit what they said. They wrote this. This is again, PBS, PBS. We pay them. I pay an ungodly amount of taxes to the point where I can't hire more people because I got to give it to the government to do this stupid nonsense. They write, quote, some elections are important, some are not. But this one, this one matter. They quote Musk. And then they said he puts his hand on his chest and then raises it in a salute similar to the Sieg Heil salute used by Nazis at their victory rallies. He touched his heart and threw it out to the audience. That's what he did. These people are asinine. Asinine. Now, here's a bit of news that'll make you feel better. You know, all of the Intel officials that signed that letter claiming that the Russian laptop was not disinformation or that it was disinformation, that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. They lied to you. They knew that they were lying and they signed it anyway. Well, with a stroke of his pen, Trump revoked all their security clearances. Oh, that was good. Revoked all their security clearances. So that'll make you happy. See, we got some stuff that's going to make you happy today with some of these executive orders. That's a big deal. And I think if you're lying to the American people, you should not have a security clearance. You absolutely shouldn't. The other thing he did, effective, I think now, is withdrawing the Paris Agreement. From the Paris Agreement, it is effective immediately. It's called Presidential Actions Putting America First in International Environmental Agreements. And it goes into effect immediately. So we are out of the Paris agreement. Remember, they were trying to treat that as a treaty, an unratified treaty and expecting you to accept that it has like the same scope and strength. And it doesn't. The other thing, delivering emergency price relief for American families, defeating the cost of living crisis. So this says, quote, I hereby order. the heads of all executive departments and agencies to deliver emergency price relief consistent with applicable law to the American people and increase the prosperity of the American worker. And by the way, Cyborg, we're going to have a piece on this coming up shortly on Substack about these executive orders. They also gave him, he's got the hiring freeze that he signed. It is a hiring freeze until the administration is fully in place, effective immediately. Within 90 days of this memorandum, the director of OMB said, and consultation with the director of DOGE, etc., they're going to submit a plan to reduce the size of federal government's workforce through efficiency improvements and attrition. They also have a regulatory freeze. This is a big one. Regulatory freeze pending review. They're not going to propose or issue any rule in any manner, and this pertains to energy too, including by sending a rule to the Office of the Federal Register until a department agency head appointed or designated by the president has reviewed it and approved it. They demanded that everybody return to work. That's an executive order. Ending the weaponization of federal government. They're going to review, audit all the activities of the departments and agencies exercising civil or criminal enforcement. Restoring freedom of speech. Ending federal censorship. That one is kind of broad, and I don't know how effective that is because it's just literally affirming 1A, which you really shouldn't need an EO to affirm that. Here's the other one. Quote, initial rescissions of harmful executive orders and actions. With this order, Trump rescinded every single one of Biden's 78 executive orders. All rescinded. Now coming up, I'm going to give you something to get really excited for. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh, yeah. All right. So champagne sales have sunk because people don't want to celebrate. You know what? Because they haven't they haven't discovered spritzes. They haven't discovered things like a limoncello spritz or a French 75, which is named actually after 75 millimeter guns are used in World War One. But I digress. The champagne sales have sunk because people don't want to celebrate anymore. People aren't in the mood to say cheers. It's literally a study that came out. People are just like, they don't feel like super celebratory. And they said champagne sales are down across the board. Is it a generational... Steve, do you like champagne? Is it a generational thing? Well, you can get some dry... Yeah, I agree with you. Most of it's like... It's like drinking syrup. But, yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. A man pours his relative ashes in the mother's toilet. Oh, for the love. Okay, there's... Memphis, a man was arrested because police say he broke into his mother's home and poured a relative's ashes in her toilet. Police responded. Adele Totten had broken into a window, entered her home and took the cremated ashes of a deceased relative, dumped him in the toilet. And then he took some stuff from the apartment as well. He's been charged with aggravated burglary. Here's the other thing. And abuse of a corpse. I didn't know that that's a charge that you could have applied to you if it has to deal with ashes. Not that I was planning on doing anything, but that's just an interesting bit of trivia to know. You know, anyway. Women or a woman intentionally started a house fire with Takis chips. Now... These are not that spicy. Come on. She's accused of using Tacky's chips to start a fire with three other people inside. Now she's going to prison. Patricia Williams, first degree arson. It was last year in Greene County. She's just been sentenced. And she said that she used the chips because she knew they would support the combustion because of the grease content. And guess what? She was correct. Man, how do you feel about those? I mean, nobody was killed in the fire, but still, good heavens. That poor chip company. A brain surgeon was let go by the hospital because he allowed his 13-year-old daughter to drill a hole into the patient's skull. There's certain things that you should not be. Take your daughter to work day. This was in Austria. A 33-year-old man was flown to the hospital with serious head injuries in an Austrian forest. They did surgery. And then the unnamed neurosurgeon is alleged to have allowed the teenage daughter to participate. They got in trouble. Big time trouble. Stick with us. We got a lot more on the way. The energy being unleashed by some of these executive orders. Next, the burn a gun is all about diversifying your weapons array. I'm not going to tell people not to carry. In fact, I encourage you to carry. I encourage you to go get your concealed carry, go and, you know, have fun at the range on the weekends. I have zero problem using lethal force to protect myself or my family. But there are times and I have friends that have lived this life. You know, they do everything right. They go and they get their, you know, LTC that they have to get when they're in New York or in D.C. But because of the nature of their job, they have to go to a lot of places where it's either private property, gun-free zone or a municipal restriction zone. And as a result, they don't want to be left completely defenseless, especially because these areas also coincidentally happen to be high crime. Both of my friends that I know did this. They got the Berna SD independent of each other. That's Berna's best selling self-defense option. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. And they have different models, but the Berna SD is the most popular. And it's a good addition, you know, just to your diversified self-defense weapons array, as I said. And there's no, they don't care about gun-free zone signs. I mean, Berna gun, if it had a middle finger, it would give one to the gun-free zone signs. No background checks, no permits. They can ship it right to your door. No waiting period. So you don't ever have to be made defenseless by anybody. And that's where Berna comes in. This is the perfect time to reevaluate your self-defense options going into the new year. Visit Berna.com slash Dana. That's B-Y-R-N-A. Berna.com slash Dana to get 10% off your purchase.
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This next order relates to the definition of birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment of the United States.
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That's a good one. Birthright. That's a big one.
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What about that one in the court? That one might be.
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Could be. They think we have good grounds, but you could be right. You'll find out. It's ridiculous. We're the only country in the world that does this with birthright, as you know. And it's just absolutely ridiculous. But, you know, we'll see. We think we have very good ground.
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Yeah, and he's not wrong. I mean, he does have a very he has very good ground on it. We're going to talk a little bit about that because that's one of the. executive orders that i think that they're going to have uh some legal action over and in fact that's uh i was looking at some of this they were i mean they've already started with it i if you get the newsletter i told you that they were already filing suits this that you know it's just one of the things that's what they're going to do that's what they're going to do you just have to acclimate yourself to that welcome back to the program dana lash with you and uh this is We're going to dive into this, and we're going to dive into this bishop that was apparently ranting about transgender rights at the Day of Prayer thing. I don't know if you guys saw that. We're going to touch on that here coming up. But this EO, and I'm pulling up some of the few other things. This... Idea of birthright citizenship. I think you have to have a complete people need to have a complete understanding of what the 14th Amendment is. You know, the 14th Amendment was about uniting the country following the horrors of the Civil War and people who were free in this country that were citizens were citizens. I mean, it was ultimately what it was about. I mean, there's. The idea that someone can come to the United States and not be here legally and then have a child after entering legally and that grants them citizenship, I think has been a misinterpreted bastardization of the 14th Amendment. And the reason being, and forgive me, I'm pulling up my notes here because I wanted to pull up the 14th Amendment for this one particular phrase. When it gets into the jurisdiction thereof is the big thing. It says that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. Now this is again following the abolishment of slavery. That's a very important phrase subject to the jurisdiction thereof, meaning that you as you're following your you are eligible to be under the protections of the United States. There are some who like to say, well, this also covers people who might be in the country illegally, you know, on their journey. It covers them, too. But there's less of a legal precedent for that. So this is going to turn into a legal fight. But I feel like that phrase makes it quite clear. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Citizens are subject to the jurisdiction of the state or the country in which they have citizenship. That's my interpretation and has always been my interpretation of this. I mean, it's just asinine to think that I could go to Ireland and have a baby in Ireland and my baby's an Irish citizen. You know, the example, an example that you could give is, you know, what if you just have people who decide to send all of their, you know, say that your country's under attack and instead of firing weapons or sending over, you know, armed drones, you just send over a bunch of pregnant women and they have babies and you just immediately start doing it like that. I mean, don't think that that's not out of the realm of possibilities in this human epic because it absolutely, this epoch, it absolutely is. So that's how I view this. And I think he's completely fine with this order. The other order that I think that is going to get, that I've already seen getting pushback is this with J6. Now, let's talk for just a minute about the J6 stuff. First and foremost, and I retweeted one of my friends on this, Daniel Horowitz. He said, quote, the lead guy who burned down the Minneapolis police station got 27 months. The very worst J6ers got four years. And that, he adds, is if you believe the government side of the story, where they have demonstrably lied, by the way. fabricated accusations, withheld evidence that actually worked in favor of the defendants as it pertains to their culpability or lack thereof. And they lied about the defendants. They've already paid for what they did beyond, as Horowitz says, what any career criminal did during the BLM. The people who are like, oh, it was interfering with the election process. I don't think it interfered with the election process. I mean, you have people, the most violent of the J6ers already served more time than any of the BLM folks. I'm not saying that. The people who are literally examining the sentences and doing the analysis on all of it are. And I'm saying, because the facts are there. The facts are there. I mean, it's, So, of course, I absolutely feel that they should be pardoned. I think the whole damn thing, pardon all of it. Because the people who are the most violent, like I said, and like others have said, they already served their time. They already served their time above and beyond. I mean, way more so than the Occupy Wall Street people or, I mean, go on and on. But this is – you have to think that they got a fair deal from the get-go, and I don't believe that they did. I mean, there's a ton of – there's a lot of examples of them outright just withholding evidence or fabricating things, fabricating evidence. So, I mean, I don't – I don't have a problem with any of it. And I think people need to just, you know, come on. All of this, by the way, got thrown sideways when you had Joe Biden pardon his whole famed family. That changed the game. That changed the calculus. He pardoned his whole family. That we were told we're not guilty of any crimes at all whatsoever. But pardoned his whole family. Why do you need a pardon if you haven't done any crimes? I mean, that's, that's, it doesn't make any sense. Why? But this idea of going harder on them because they were conservative and ultimately that's, I mean, imagine if they had murdered a couple of FBI agents. Hmm. Yeah. Like some of the people that Joe Biden just literally pardoned. Joe Biden pardoned people who murdered cops. You know, they were already trying to be all back to blue and stuff. And they tried to sit here and act like, oh, these officers on J6. There was not a single defendant that assaulted a police officer who was pardoned or had their sentence commuted, by the way. That's one of the things Trump did not do. If they were on, if they had absolute concrete evidence of them assaulting an officer and being the provocation, then they did not receive a partner commutation. Everybody else did. But imagine, like I said, I mean, if you look at some of the people that Joe Biden was pardoning, I mean, actual cop killers. So the way that they went about this, the way that they they treated these people, it was a two tier system of justice. And it it put a question on every single conviction because it was so biased. There's no way that, I mean, every single prosecutor and judge was after these people. I mean, you have this guy, when you have Leonard Peltier, who is pardoned, he murdered two agents, Jack Collar and Ronald Williams, murdered two FBI agents. But he gets pardoned. But they were they wanted to go harder on the J6 people than even that. The I like I said, I am completely I mean, I don't. The idea that of this two tier system of justice is not an idea. It's a reality. Compare the Occupy Wall Street. Compare Antifa. Compare Black Lives Matter. Look at some of the sentences those folks got. And then look at this. I mean, there were 20 year sentences that were given out for people who are nonviolent offenders in J6. It's crazy. And it was an absolute complete witch hunt. I personally know people who they initially were looking to bring charges against that weren't even in D.C. They were scouring social media. And if they had like DC Post or it looked like they were there that day, they got a visit. And I had two friends that had this exact thing. One of them talked about it a little bit. One of them really didn't because they're more behind the scenes. They work as like a political operative. craziness. Remember they were trying to go after this elderly woman who wasn't even there? She was going to go, but she ended up not going that day. I don't even know how they... There are so many insane stories that we could finish the show talking about, but bottom line is I have zero issue with this because these people did their time. They did their time. They paid fines if they were cited. They did their time. That's what... 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So cops in Coconut Grove are seeking a thief who was wearing a Jesus Save shirt. But not him because he committed a crime. I mean, of all the things to wear while you're committing a crime, that shirt. Okay, this is in Miami. They're seeing a man caught on camera wearing a Jesus Save shirt. He was stealing, which pretty sure Jesus doesn't like. And they have got him on camera showing up to homes at like one in the morning. and he stole one victim's vehicle. And they said that the Miami police are looking for him. I mean, it should be easy to spot him. He's in that same shirt in all the video footage. A Florida storm drain trapped a 10-foot gator and triggered an urgent rescue response. And a storm drain. Oh, my gosh. It makes me think of that scene from It when the little kid's there and he's going to float his little sailboat. And you've got It that's like right there in the storm drain. This gator, 10 feet. It was in Cape Coral. It took an urgent rescue operation. 10-foot, 6-inch gator stuck in this culvert. And the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation ones got the photo. Can you imagine that popping out? Like, what's up? He was stuck, though. They had to use a winch to lift the storm drain lid and then let the gator, let the gator go. They secured it on the truck and took it and just and let it released it in a safe area. Safe for the gator. Anyway, not probably for us, but that's OK. Let's see this. Florida man was arrested because he was lurking around a bus stop. You know, that's a way that is a way to get beaten to death by an angry mom, either with a shotgun or a flip flop or both. Deputies arrested a Florida man because he was caught creeping at a children's bus stop. Polk County Sheriff's Office identified 37 year old Jonathan Lewis, who is a registered sex offender. He's being charged with violation of probation for failure to register. And he loitered within 300 feet of kids. No reason to be there. He just creeping. And they took him into county and they booked him into a jail, Polk County Jail. He looks like a predator. And he's been a registered sex offender. He had a convention in 2004, a conviction. And they said that he was standing amongst the small children and everyone, the witness said something was not right. And so they called the police. and deputies learned that he lived near the school, but he had no kids who went there, didn't know any of the kids who went there, couldn't give him a reason as to why he was hanging out amongst the kids at the bus stop, because he's being a pervert. Why is he living? Honestly, you're a child. Molester dot. You should be put to death. I am 100 percent for the immediate execution of all child predators. All of them. This guy, it is a failure of our justice system that this guy breathes. Moving on this Florida man story. He's a dirty burglar. He doesn't like robbing homes dirty. Apparently he broke into someone's home and took a shower. In Okaloosa County, they got a phone call from a Destin homeowner at 530 in the morning on a Saturday saying a man broke through her glass bedroom door and she was able to hide in the bathroom and call for help. And they found when Okaloosa County Sheriff's deputies arrived, they found 27-year-old Harrison Lee taking a shower inside her main bathroom. She was in the guest bathroom. He was in, I guess, the master, the bathroom on the side of the master bedroom. Or you can't say master anymore, can you? Because everyone's stupid. But anyway, he was in the master bathroom taking a shower. And they showed up and they led him away in handcuffs. He only was wearing a towel around his waist. He has been charged with burglary to an occupied dwelling, criminal mischief. Thankfully, no one was injured. But that woman had to be pretty terrified. Can you imagine like you're going you're you're sleeping and a guy busts up in your bedroom? You run to hide and then he goes and takes a shower. He's in your shower. I'd have to clean my shower before I could use it again. That's nasty. That's just so nasty. Also, got a couple of other things. A Florida woman is charged with attempted murder because she stabbed a man in his male copulatory organ. Let's put it like that. Stabbed him in his male copulatory organ. And witnesses said he was causing problems at the bar, calling the bartender vile names, being belligerent. It was at a tavern called Big Ugly Fish. And the woman, who's also a registered nurse, She pulled a knife on him after because they couldn't subdue this guy. Stabbed him. He's 63 years old. She fled on foot. So or he fled on foot. So man alive. I tell you, we have a lot more on the way. Third hour coming up. Stick with us like drinking from a fire hose today. 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That's pound 250 baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Donate today for the sanctity of life at preborn.com slash Dana. Welcome back to the program. The you can watch the show, by the way, all channel 347 DirecTV if you're listening terrestrially in a state near you. And you can also find us chat at Rumble X, all kinds of good stuff. So you don't want to miss. All right. So earlier today, first full day of Trump's presidency. Guess how it got kicked off. Well, they had the prayer service at the Washington National Cathedral, which is a fake church full of fake Christians and people dressed up like bishops who, I mean, even Satan can quote scripture to cite Shakespeare. And I just want to play for you what was unleashed. His first thing on his first full day, he's sitting there with his wife, with the vice president, with the vice president's wife, second lady. Listen to this. This happened at the prayer service in a supposed church.
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I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now. There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican, and independent families, some who fear for their lives. And the people, the people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meat packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals, They may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. They pay taxes and are good neighbors. They are faithful members of our churches and mosques, synagogues, and temples. I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you help those who are fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.
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For the love.
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Our God teaches us.
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You know what? He also says, give to Caesar what is Caesar and give to God what is God's. And he also extols people to follow the laws of the land and listen to your leaders. He also says that, too. It's not an unjust law. This woman, first off, this is why I don't like women preachers. I don't like women bishops. And I don't think women have any place in wearing these robes and standing in front of a congregation and running their mouths like this. This female is the exact type of female that Paul was talking about when he said to be silent in the church, ladies. That woman right there. Give me a break. You know what? I want to go back to John 2.15 for just a moment. When Jesus talks about in the Gospels, when the Gospels talk about Jesus making a whip out of cords and just unleashing and driving all these people out of the temple courts. And it even says that both sheep and cattle. He scattered the coins of the money changers. He overturned their tables, Matthew 21. He cast out everyone that was buying and selling in the temple. He overthrew the tables of the money changers. He flipped over the seats of those who sold doves. And he said, my house will be called a house of prayer and you have turned it into a den of thieves. This is the type of person about whom Christ was talking about. Right here. Speaking unbiblical untruths and trying to put it behind the veneer of scripture from the pulpit. Shame on this devil woman. And I'm going to tell you her punishment when she dies. will be more than you can imagine. Because you remember scripture also, those that lead these ones astray, it would be better for them to have a millstone tied around their neck and thrown into the depths of the sea because shepherds and people who aspire to such a position are called to a high standard. Unbelievable. And in this fake church, this church is nothing more than a coffin for a dead non-existent faith that they do not practice there. That church is a giant coffin. It looks real pretty, has its big columns, has its paintings, its mosaics, its statuary. But it is as alive as a cemetery. And don't think for one second that flipping over the money changers tables is an analogous to what this woman is doing. Oh, believe she is absolutely commercialized church. She is absolutely commercialized faith. She has politicized it. Let's pause for a moment about and let's think about it from this angle. The lives of the youth that you are ruining because you have a. pederast fetish with cutting off their breasts and their penises and taking chunks of meat from their thighs to turn it into a meat sickle that they pretend is a male copulatory organ. Let's talk about unnecessary cosmetic surgery, what these people do to themselves that make it to where they have to be on medicine for the rest of their lives and the ideology for which this demonic woman is created. advocating is targeting the youth. Let's spare maybe a little bit of sympathy, woman, for the children whose lives are irrevocably ruined because the adults in their lives are chasing activism, advocacy, and adjacent fame through that path than actually parenting and taking care of their kids. This is evil. I would have stood up and walked right the hell out of that church service. I would have gotten up and walked right out. I kind of wish Vance and Trump had done so. There's no way. I will not sit and listen to false doctrine. I will get up. I don't care if I'm in church or not. I will get up and walk out. And I'm going to tell you something. For the men that are in that church, they must be eunuchs. Because this is all they could get was her. There weren't enough men to do this. There weren't enough men who are trustworthy in the eyes of God to step up and take this position. So these eunuchs had to send out this devil priestess? Seriously? To spit this poison at a so-called national prayer service? And everyone's expected to sit there and be polite because we're pretending that it has anything to do with God or faith? I don't know what faith she subscribes to, but it's not anything that I've read in the Bible. She's preaching the perversion and abuse of minors as something that should be celebrated and protected. That's what a groomer would say. A groomer would say, no, no, no. These kids want it. They want it. We've got to protect that, you know, because they want it. Every adult should be looked at with a suspicious eye that says anything remotely near that, like what she's done here. I have zero courtesy for her. I have zero mercy. She should be run out on a rail like Elijah Lovejoy. Shame on her to do it. And well, it's not a house of God anymore. It's a den of thieves because she's commercialized it and politicized it such. I really wish POTUS would have got up and walked out. I wish that he would have gotten up and walked out. And then this white demonic priestess runs down a list of chores that she apparently thinks only people who immigrate or who come to the United States do. What in the racist world is this woman talking about? Now, I know the left is racist. The most racist people I've ever met have been on the left. I've seen some of them on my own fam damley. I don't have nothing to do with them. They're on the left. Like she is. And she gets up there and talks about, you know, they clean this and they do that. And, you know, it's a wow. Imagine being this female and you are so ensconced in your ivory tower that you don't know that people who aren't white can come to the United States and, oh, I don't know, create businesses. Some of them are a hell of a lot more successful than she or her family could ever aspire to be. And they come here legally because they're not dumb. They come here legally and then they add to the great American fabric and they add to the tax revenue and they add to the skill set. And they bring their own animating spirit, animated spirit of liberty. But all she sees is white and brown, white and brown. That's all she sees. She is the definition of an evil white racist. And the fact that she's in those robes, look at those stupid superfluous robes that she's wearing. It is a joke. It makes a mockery of church. It makes a mockery of Christ. It makes a mockery of faith. And this is what they did. This this is the prayer breakfast. This is how POTUS and the vice president are expected to start their first day. I don't have enough nice words. I will say Vance's face is pretty funny. Did you see Eric Trump's face at one point? Eric Trump, you could tell. My gosh, if ever there was a time when a thought bubble almost appeared like in real life over someone's head, it almost like apparated out of the ether and perched itself over Eric Trump's head because you could almost read his thoughts on his face. He just said, you can see it. I watched the whole, every time it panned to him, I was looking at his face. I'm like, oh my gosh. But I would have gotten up. I would have gotten up unceremoniously and I would have walked right out. I would have walked right out of that service. I really wish that POTUS and the vice president would have done so. Because they don't they don't deserve to sit there like that and listen to that, nor does anyone else. And I'm not going to sit there and pretend that that has anything to do with faith or Christ or anything. I'm not going to sit there and pretend any of it. If you're going to spew that poison to me from behind the pulpit, that's not church. That's a that's that's a. Not even a political rally. You're just spitting poison and evil. I'm not going to pretend that we're doing this in the context of church. No, I'm out. I'm not fellowshipping with that. I'm not taking part in that. I'm out. Not a church at all. No, that was a demon wearing sloppy robes. Masquerading as a shepherd. She's a trans shepherd. We've got a lot more on the way. Oh, I have more things I could say about it, but I'm trying to rein myself in. I've seen the amazing changes Relief Factor has made for so many people. And I've seen it firsthand through my husband, Chris's pain relief from using Relief Factor. Right now, it's easy to give their product a try because Relief Factor makes it painless. Thank you. It helps reduce or even eliminate it. It's safe to take daily, and in fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective. Whether it's neck, back, joint, or muscle pain, Relief Factor can help. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Give Relief Factor a try. 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All right, so let's see. First up, because we still haven't even gotten through a quarter of these questions. Executive orders. Yeah, forgive me. I'm like trying to pull this thing up and it's not wanting to open. I do know that the one of the executive orders was the revocation of the clearance of those, as I mentioned, those 51 former intelligence officials that had their security clearances revoked. Fifty one of them. And if you remember, those are the ones that had signed that letter stating that the laptop was just some Russian misinformation. Well, every single one of those so-called security officials, they all had their information. security clearances revoked. So that's that's pretty that's pretty unbelievable. I'm trying to get the other ones for you. And this is freezing. I'm going to probably put a 12 gauge up to this monitor. Let's see here. Yeah, I don't have it right now. We're not I'm not going to be able to pull this up. Unfortunately, let's go to a couple of other things that I got, though, on the side. This doctors are worrying that iodine deficiency, it's a dietary problem from the past is coming back. Are they waiting for radiation? I don't know. Retirement experts are saying do not retire because there's a retirement crisis apparently now. Well, it's because the government needs everybody to work because they won't stop spending. That's another big part of it that's fueling this entirely. In addition to that, we've got what a ski resort slogan is banned ahead of a World Cup in Germany because they're saying that it's going to offend the Brits. What is the name of the ski resort? It's called Wank. And their slogan is, I love Wank. That's what it is. It's called Mount Wank. It's actually quite funny, but I can see they're trying to keep it classy, I guess. I get it. All right. A heart doctor reveals a five minute at home test that can actually spot cardiac conditions. I don't know if I necessarily necessarily believe that. I know that the cardio mobile thing is legit. And when I had an issue that turned out to be nothing some years ago, the cardiologist that I saw told me to get that. And he said it's even more accurate than, like, your Apple Watch, which, you know, could be helpful, but that's, like, super accurate. But this one, they said that, you know, you can do it. You just listen to your body, your rest, your heart rate, all of that. Duh. Stick with us. We've got more in store. All Family Pharmacy, you just need to bookmark this website. I have never been to a website where they make it easier to get the medicines that you need. And look, for, like, I get it. If you want to go to a doctor or anyone, they have doctors that are on their staff that you can actually talk to. So for instance, when I over Thanksgiving, I was getting super sick. I had sinusitis and it was turning into strep and I had people coming on. I was hosting for Thanksgiving. I don't have time for this. So I went on All Family Pharmacy's website, allfamilypharma.com. And I use my own code name. I'm not going to even lie about it. I dropped my own name and I got it discounted for 10% off. It's all familypharma.com slash Dana. And I was able to get my azithromycin because if I were to go to my doctor, that's the exact same thing they're going to prescribe me. This ain't my first rodeo. And then I had it overnighted. Got here at 9 a.m. 9 a.m. I ordered this stuff at like 7 o'clock last night. So it was amazing how quickly that they got it there. Anything that you need. This is a must have when you're traveling. They have everything. Ivermectin, which I take ahead of big events for the antiviral properties. But they have all kinds of reliable options for a variety of health needs. Be prepared. Skip the hassle. And here's the kicker. Big thing. Big, big, big. Their stuff is made in the USA, not China. So you hear about a lot of antibiotics being made in CCP China. Not these. It's all USA. So you do not have to worry about outsourced products. You're getting good quality, safe material. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Get 10% off using promo code Dana10. Don't wait. Make sure that you're always prepared. Protect yourself and your family. Allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Code Dana10 to save 10%.
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For now. I don't know. That's going to be one that we talk about later. I don't know about that. I was not sure about that one. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. I will say, I'm looking at all of these because they... So they brought... So he went on stage and he signed a bunch of executive orders. Then he went to the White House and signed a bunch of executive orders, 200 in total. And they went through... There's video literally for every single one. So I don't want to play all of them for you. I do want to talk to you about the energy one. This is... I mean, it's not my birthday yet. Come on, guys. It's not even my birthday. It's declaring a national energy emergency. And so in this, he's looking to unleash America's energy potential. Now, do you remember his first term there for a while? And then he left office and Biden came in. We were actually in that exporter. We were outpacing the Saudis. And so he signed several contracts. executive orders as it pertains to energy. One of those was the declaration of a national energy emergency. That's number one. And that's going to address energy prices, looking at energy prices and all of this other stuff. Also looking to all of the different ways for energy affordability and And by declaring it a national energy emergency, the government can invoke the special powers granted to it through the Defense Production Act. You'll notice that that was something that came into play during the coronavirus. That means that energy projects will get priority and all of the resources to get this done. It all gets prioritized to get faster relief. cutting environmental regulations, and reducing the regulatory overhead for a lot of this stuff, particularly as it relates to household efficiency standards and electric vehicles. Now, some people may think that the household efficiency standards aren't that important, but if you're not one of those people that has to go out and get a brand new furnace or a brand new water heater, and it's going to be, I'm not joking, it's two times more expensive than it was. I know that because I had to replace my furnace and now I wish I would have like, I feel like I should have just froze out and waited and frozen to death and then waited for these executive orders. I had to do that a year ago and it's so much more expensive and they don't work as well. It's so stupid. But that is that's going to provide immediate relief. You're also going to see a streamlined approval process for all of those energy products, all the stupid red tape that they throw out. And I think that that would probably help with regards to maybe the expansion of refineries. Here's the other thing. Do you remember the executive order that Biden levied on LNG, right? Liquified natural gas. This undoes all of that. Well, he already reversed all of Biden's. Executive orders anyway, but he also this order specifically lifted the moratorium that Biden had placed on new licenses for LNG, the exportation of LNG. And so the Department of Energy can now they are now ordered to resume exportation. processing those applications, uh, for those, uh, permits for exporting LNG. And they're wanting to boost the energy production and support the, you know, obviously economic growth with all these LNG exports. Think about it. Here's how this plays into national security. One of the some of these NATO countries and energy has been this. Germany relied on dirty Russian gas for a very long time. And some other parts of Europe were as well. And this to get cleaner, because the United States, before stupid environmental regulations even had any part in it, just by way of making sure that they always have an environment that they can use and coexist with and get gas and oil from. Oil and gas companies have already implemented environmentally friendly and it's simultaneously business friendly because it preserves, again, the business standards that it's the cleanest, most efficient extraction that you could get. It's just miles advanced, miles more advanced than what, that's why they call it dirty Russian gas. To have that kind of gas and be able to provide that for our allies in Europe or elsewhere, that immediately eliminates the dependence that these nations like Germany have been having on geopolitical opponents like Russia or China, etc. So that helps also in a national security way as well, boosting that production, supporting the economic growth by facilitating the expansion of those lng exports and they want to also by doing this by getting rid of this red tape there's so much more innovation that can be done in the sector and that's what they're hoping to encourage uh this is another big one utilizing alaskan resources this was a major order and it looks at all of the natural resources in alaska and oil gas timber and this order specific uh mineral other minerals uh even seafood uh this they're going to uh to open up that for exploration and use those resources in Alaska for that purpose. We've withdrawn from the Paris Climate Agreement. Everyone's always tried to call it an accord or a treaty. It's not a treaty. It was never ratified. The process for this isn't going to be as immediate. This whole process apparently It takes a year to withdraw. I don't know. The administration, in the meantime, is using this to formulate a new strategy that actually addresses legitimate environmental concerns and preservation, but also keeping in mind national security and the American economic crisis. Goals all in mind. So that's and they were right in that the Paris Accord was a joke. It was entirely one sided. It was economically idiotic and burdensome. I mean, it didn't do anything with regards to climate change because the biggest polluters were not even part of it. The biggest polluters are China and India. The biggest polluter is China. China is not even part of it. The United States is only a fraction of even some of the other countries in Europe in terms of pollution. gases and any kind of pollution or anything to that effect because the United States has already taken steps to address it without having any kind of oversight like this. So this is stupid. It put all the burden on the United States. Like the United States, if you guys just have everyone live without electricity, tiny homes and eating bugs, the rest of us can go on living normally because you're going to take one for the team and not contribute to greenhouse gases by doing all of this stuff. It's asinine. So, you know, I'm glad that this is something that we've done. So, also, let's see here. The wind leasing. And I'm looking at all of my notes here. The executive order, folks, on wind leasing. This is withdrawing. It's a temporary withdrawal of... windmills and exploration and the leasing of the land for those purposes. It's the Outer Continental Shelf and it mandates they want a whole overhaul. They want a huge review of the leasing practices undertaken by the federal government for wind projects. There's a lot of cronyism in there. So, you know, I mean, that's It's interesting because Democrats love it, but Democrats have also fought against wind projects, most famously the Kennedys, because they were going to put a slate of windmills up. I don't know if you guys remember this. That was going to actually be visible from Teddy Kennedy's house. And Teddy Kennedy lobbied against it for years and killed the project because he just didn't want it by his house. He doesn't care if it was by yours. He doesn't care if it's killing whales somewhere, chopping up birds anywhere else. He just didn't want it by his house. So super, super interesting. This is a great thing for US energy. Energy is key to reviving the American economy, to unleashing our potential. We have so many resources and we have so many great processes in order to do it. We just have to be able to be allowed to do it. We don't need to fabricate all these stupid restrictions anymore. as a way to appease our enemies i mean that's what you would do if you were working for our geopolitical foes you would come up with all of these same dumb restrictions uh that absolutely do nothing but drive up the cost of energy and make it more scarce and make our allies have to rely on our geopolitical foes for their energy sustenance this this changes it this changes all of it if you do this and cut government spending oh my gosh Boom. A boom. It'd be amazing. It'd be huge. Make tax cuts permanent. Oh, make that your first step. Then abolish the IRS. What? I feel like that Vince McMahon meme where he's got three stages of elation. You know, we're getting up to the last one. So these are all huge. The energy executive orders are, I mean, they're just, they're incredibly important. And so this is, I mean, he's doing all the right things right out of the gate. And so I'm pleased with us. I'm pleased with us. And right out of the gate, he's doing it. This, you know, we told you about, I think I might write about this later, this bishop, this diocese in Washington that gave that speech where they were going on about trans this and trans that, insulting the president too at a national prayer service. I'm still so angry about that. I'm already getting emails about this from you, from a lot of you out there who are livid. Some of you didn't know that that happened this morning. You guys didn't. I had it playing and I was doing a million things and getting ready for the show. And I heard some of what she was saying and it stopped me in my tracks because I thought, wait a minute, I thought I was streaming the prayer service. And I thought maybe, I don't know, something happened and it went to a dumb Marxist channel. I don't know. I turned to look and it was still the prayer service. And The Lorraine reminds me, reminds me to this bishop. Let me go back. Marian booty. buddy whatever she's this uh bishop of washington since 2011 what a joke uh and she also loathes trump with the burning passion of a thousand suns and has gone to rallies and done all this stuff and uh she's you know your your quintessential like npr annoying white progressive female and Yeah, that actually happened at the National Prayer Service. One of you emailed and said that happened at the prayer service. Second sentence right in front of the president and the vice president and our cabinet. Question mark. Yes, it did. Yes. So that was like her little dig that I just don't know if you're planning all of this stuff. And I just I'm not I'm not coming down on anybody. But I am saying you got to watch out for this stuff. Like this woman is is a well-known Trump hater. Not just Trump hater. She hates God. You don't preach what she's preaching from behind the pulpit and and love God. You don't lie like this and subvert scripture like that. Why would you allow the president and vice president? Why would you say it's OK for you guys to go here and subject yourself and the whole country to this? This stuff lost at the election. We don't need to hear it anymore. America voted against it. We don't need to hear it in these fake Christian, you know, pretend service things that make a mock. We don't need to hear it anymore. So we need to make sure that those kind of optics don't ever happen again. That never happens again. The expediting delivery of energy infrastructure. This is another. This is part of one of those executive orders to facilitating all of that. They're looking at every lawful emergency, all relevant emergency, every agency, every supply chain, everything for this. You know what it feels like? It feels like nobody did the books for the last four years. Nobody did inventory for the last four years. I don't even think Democrats did inventory of the damage that their policies caused. And it sort of feels like they're going in and blowing the dust off the books in a way, doesn't it? It's almost like this. It feels like this stuff hasn't been looked at in forever. I don't know. The whole thing is just wild to me. But, you know, I'm telling you, ReadyWise is such a great company because, first off, it's really important to me, especially like with WuFlu and everything got locked down. I don't want Chinese anything. I don't want foreign anything with like super important products. And that also applies to my survival food. ReadyWise is all U.S. ingredients. Everything is here in the U.S. And they send the U.S. ingredients to a U.S. plant where they prepare and pack it. And then they send it to you. They also have a team of in-house culinary experts. So they make sure that your caloric needs are met. 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SPEAKER 24 :
roadblock in America's future, man. I can't believe it. We're actually hearing rumors, and I think you like this, Democrat. Fetterman might actually switch parties, we're hearing. Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but that's something that's been kicked around a little bit today.
SPEAKER 25 :
Well, if Fetterman doesn't switch parties, I know some place called the WWE that he could be great at, brother, just as long as he keeps that hoodie on.
SPEAKER 02 :
One of my favorite things about that, my friend Jesse noted that apparently Hulk Hogan had sleeves on his jacket. but they took them off and left his sleeves in the floor right there where they were just left his sleeves in the floor. So I'm like, that's like a take that. Give it to your kids one day. These are Hulk sleeves. This is too funny. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are wrapping up this third hour now. Tomorrow, beginning tomorrow, I'm going to be broadcasting from SHOT Show. In Vegas. We've got some crazy stuff. Special guests. Because everybody goes there. It's not just gun stuff. You've got film and TV because prop masters go out there. They look for firearms that they can place into different movies. Plus, there's a lot of policy that affects every industry, not just that variable specifically. So it'll be a lot of good discussion. But yeah, that was funny. His sleeves were on the floor. They just were left there on the floor. The president has said that he's apparently expected to visit L.A. this week and survey the fire damage. They haven't given an ETA on that or any kind of specific time, but they just said he's expected to this week to go and do that. And in the meantime, you know, you've had people like Gavin Newsom, who's been begging and just, well, he said this, audio soundbite 25, listen.
SPEAKER 26 :
I take us, I get it. I'm not naive. I get the California derangement syndrome. I've been living with that for years and years. New scum. And I'm saying seventh grade. I remember the guy on Baltimore Avenue that called me new scum. I was in seventh grade.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh my gosh, he's making this up to be a pity thing about himself. He ends up going, yeah, you know, Trump, come help me. You know what? You guys have done way worse. Stop it. You're going to act like a little name calling. I mean, this is politics. Stop. Come on. All right. That does it for us today. We got today in stupidity, Steve, if I didn't take your time away.
SPEAKER 22 :
No, we got some time here.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 22 :
This might be the last thing we hear from Biden for a long, long time. And he's going to be the last to dance a bit here. So you interpret what he said here. Go ahead, Juan.
SPEAKER 10 :
We're not leaving the fight. all you can. Stay engaged in all the ways you can. Whether it's in public service, the private sector, philanthropy, academia, running for office yourself. Just as I've said, of the laws we enacted, our seasons are going to grow.
SPEAKER 02 :
I have no idea what the hell he's saying here. And I don't think he does either. Yeah. That does it for us today, folks. Have a wonderful rest of your evening. I'll be back behind the mic with you tomorrow from Vegas. God bless.
Today, renowned guests like Hans von Spakowski and Larry Taunton weigh in on the sudden shifts in U.S. policy and global reactions. Explore the implications of recent pardon decisions and what it means for long-term governance as the Trump administration sets new precedence.
SPEAKER 01 :
from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, good afternoon and welcome to this Tuesday edition of Washington Watch. Thanks so much for being a part of the program. I'm Jody Heiss, a senior vice president here at the Family Research Council and president of FRC Action. And I am filling in today for Tony as he was unable to get in due to inclement weather. He should be back in the seat tomorrow. So, again, welcome to the program. We've got a lot to cover. President Donald Trump wasted no time on his first day back in the office yesterday. He signed a wave of executive orders in both the Oval Office as well as at the Capital One Arena, where thousands of Trump supporters gathered following his inauguration.
SPEAKER 09 :
The first item that President Trump is signing is the rescission of 78 Biden-era executive actions, executive orders, presidential memoranda, and others.
SPEAKER 10 :
By the way, Capital One Arena is literally just a few steps away from the D.C. Office of Family Research Council. And what an incredible start he had. Travis Weber will be joining me to unpack some of those executive orders. And also we'll be discussing some of the executive orders that we would like to see the president sign in coming days. And then I'll also be joined in a little while by Oklahoma Congressman Josh McKean to get his take on some of those executive orders, including the one to end the weaponization of government against political adversaries. Of course, this is something that the Biden administration was notorious for, even as it claimed that justice was blind. And speaking of justice, if the two-tiered system of justice we saw during the Biden administration was not already crystal clear, now the former president added an exclamation point to all of that. You may have heard about this, but literally just 22 minutes before leaving the office with preemptive pardoning of his family members, he signed 22 minutes before he left office. Even many Democrats were critical of that move.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm not a fan of these pardons, right? I wish he didn't feel that he needed to do that. It's a shame that this has happened, but I'm not a fan of the pardons because now the precedent is set.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was Democratic Congressman Jared Moskowitz yesterday during a CBS News interview. So what is the precedent that former President Biden has set? That's a huge question, and I'll be joined later by Heritage Foundation's Hans von Spakowski to discuss that important issue. Meanwhile, in Switzerland, the World Economic Forum is holding its 55th annual gathering. And how will the new Trump administration affect the conversations that will be going on there? Well, Larry Taunton will be joining me from there and just a little bit later in the program to discuss that. So as usual, we've got a lot coming your way, no lack of news to report, and we want to bring as much of it as we can. If you happen to miss any portion, of course, the website, TonyPerkins.com, you want to keep that handy as both this and multiple other programs are available there for you. So keep that website handy, TonyPerkins.com. All right, let's jump into the top stories for today. It's only day two of the second Trump administration, and his White House's website already has five pages, five pages filled with various executive orders that he's already signed from yesterday. So which orders did he sign? And how will he be working with Congress to execute his agenda? These are important questions. And joining me now to discuss this and more is Congressman Josh Burkine. He's a member of the Homeland Security Committee as well as the Budget Committee, and he represents the 2nd Congressional District of the great state of Oklahoma. Congressman Burkine, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you, my friend. Thanks, Charlie. Good to be with you. All right. So we have lots and lots and lots of executive orders that have already taken place and signed by President Trump. It's just day two. So what were some of the most pressing ones that he needed to address as soon as possible that he jumped on?
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Yeah, look, I think that energy dominance, a return to that, and the number of executive orders that are trying to return us back to common sense so that we'll utilize the gold that's under the ground, as he likes to call it, versus things that are unreliable and that often take taxpayers to subsidize tax collection of monies, then to prop up industries like wind and solar. Sadly, that's where this administration has been moving, and Trump is correcting that. And then, of course, the border issue. the number of executive orders to end the catch and release. By law, the Immigration and Nationality Act says that they are to be detained until there is a decision, an adjudication, and this administration has opened up the floodgates of catching them, released them in the interior, and the professionals call that notice to disappear. It used to be known as notice to appear for a court hearing. They flippantly call it notice to disappear, and we all know what that implies. And then, you know, up to 12 years, these people are going to be embedded and then hide when they know that their asylum claim is fraudulent anyways. Why not just break one more law in addition to coming in illegally? In addition to that, you've also got the Remain in Mexico policy, widely popular. The physical barriers that by executive order, Biden stepped in a few days after taking office and by his pen, like a king, He overrode the will of Congress, who had voted, and it was signed into law previously, for 200 mile of physical barriers. Biden took his pen and unconstitutionally undid that. President Trump is restoring what we all know to be truth. Physical barriers work. Senator Biden said that 10 years ago. I'm quoting him almost verbatim. When he was a senator, Joe Biden said, the reason why we like physical barriers and we employ them is because of the drugs that are coming in between the pores. ports of entry. And then just the myriad of 60 plus different decisions that this administration will have to undo, that's how many decisions that by his pen Biden created havoc in the largest mass importation of illegals coming across our southern border. And so we're not done.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. You mentioned so many issues there. I wish we could kind of go one by one through all of that. But you prefaced it all by talking about common sense. That seemed to be such a major underpinning of everything from yesterday. It's like, let's return to common sense, which obviously implies, and we've all seen it. We've watched it for the last four years. It seems as though every major decision that the Biden administration made put forth was based on just the opposite of common sense. So what are you anticipating as we go forward? I mean, you just mentioned a lot of things that President Trump already has implemented and signed executive orders, reversing a lot of things. What are you kind of a 30,000 foot view anticipating the next four years under the Trump administration, particularly as it relates to just common sense? What can we expect?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think you can expect the contrast. You know, I think we all watched as whatever President Trump was for previously as 45. This administration just prior to him coming in as 47 was the contrast came in and undid every bit of that. Now, President Trump is coming back in and reversing it all. And I look forward to seeing that happen. I would love to see us lock in once and for all. the Article 1 powers that say, you know, you as a former member of the House know well that all legislative powers can be vested in the Congress. So we didn't have this constant ping pong battle of Democrat versus Republican utilizing executive orders when our founders would have said that's never where we intended. But the president has no choice. Biden has created these problems all by executive order, specifically to the border I'm referencing. And so President Trump has to come back in, undo those. I'd like to see us right-size our government back to constitutional bounds. I say this often. George Washington issued eight executive orders. And now we're at a place where, on average, every president is having to issue 200 or more in the last 20 and 30 years. We need to return back to a place to where this is not constantly occurring and where we can have stability.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think that is an excellent, excellent point, Congressman Burkine. What's it going to take to get there? What type of action does Congress need to put forth to reassert the authority that the Constitution gave it and that over the years has been surrendered to the White House?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, Jody, we've all heard the term parchment barriers. It's kind of a founding father era discussion where they said, if you have people that aren't really in their hearts beholden to integrity, these things we write down by law, they're just parchment barriers. The Magna Carta written in 1215 was just a parchment barrier. Many kings that came after began to not abide by it. As John Adams in our founding era said, we will be a nation of laws, not a nation of men. And so we've got to return there. Article 1, Section 1, all legislative powers to be vested in the Congress is sufficient. But sadly, we've had Supreme Court decisions that do not abide by that. And so I actually am working on something. It's called the Bridal Act. Kat Kamik's got a measure called the Rains Act that would put bureaucracy back into a place of restraint. And there's actually a place in the federalist papers that talk about the whole reason that the founders had impeachment was it was to be a bridle in the hands of the legislative bodies to be used upon the executive servants of the government. And in tandem with that, George Mason, founding father, he and the Constitutional Convention said, we've got to add this term, high crimes and misdemeanors, Because there's only treason and bribery until George Mason insisted upon that. If you go back and look at that discussion, he said, because we'll have people who won't abide by the Constitution. And the parchment barrier won't keep them from doing things that integrity should. And so I'm working on a measure, again, called the Bridal Act that would put a lockdown, kind of like what the RAINS Act does for federal agencies, and try to apply it to executive action. And my team is working on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sounds like an outstanding piece of legislation in advance. Thank you for your leadership on that. We certainly want to be keeping a pulse on it as it goes forward. We've only got a couple of minutes left here. How do you anticipate the Republican Party, the majority, now both in the House and the Senate, to work with the White House on President Trump's priorities?
SPEAKER 02 :
Look, I look forward to so many of the things that he's talked about. Of course, anybody from Oklahoma too knows that I have extensively been so concerned when I talk to Oklahomans about our deficit spending. And the highlight to me is Russ Vogt at OMB. And Russ is someone that has been a champion in the past under the Trump administration of trying to right-size government spending. And I just had a conversation with the incoming Treasury Secretary nominee. And I know Russ is in those conversations. That excites me. We've got to have people that are paying attention to the bond market and understand what's happening when we're trying to go and make sure people want to invest in the full faith and credit because of the deficit spending, because we've gone from AAA to AA plus of two of the three rating agencies that are notable. And we have a problem because investors, when they have a choice between us or Australia, are wondering, this is a sad reality right now, they are wondering, will America make good on its promise? Will this bond be really what it's designed to be, a full return on my investment? And so we've got to stabilize that. We've got to make sure we're in our 10-year securities. We get back into a range that is not costing us $950 billion. When you hear people talk about our interest payments costing more than what we spend on veterans, our defense, our total defense, flush down the toilet, just interest payments, you know in your era, we were running $300 billion on interest payments because of a much better interest environment.
SPEAKER 10 :
Congressman Josh Birkin, thank you so much for joining us on Washington Watch. Wow, it's going to be an exciting time. Thank you for your leadership on it. All right, friends, don't go anywhere. We've got a lot more to cover, specifically all these terrible preemptive pardons. We'll be back in a moment.
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Well, good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your host, Jody Heiss. An honor to be sitting in today for Tony, who should be back in the saddle tomorrow. But thank you for being a part of the program today. All right, just 22 minutes before he left office yesterday, former President Joe Biden issued preemptive, unconditional pardons for his siblings and their spouses, blanket immunity. for any non-violent offenses they might have committed since 2014. It's just stunning. This move was not only criticized by Republicans, but also Democrats.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a shame that this has happened, but I'm not a fan of the pardons because now the precedent is set from now into the future. Four years from now, I mean, it's a long time from now, obviously, but if President Trump feels that he wants to pardon his family on the way out the door, right, now Democrats can't say anything about that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. So what precedent literally has been set through all of this? Well, joining me now to discuss this is Hans von Spakovsky. He's a senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation's Center for Legal and Judicial Studies. Previously, Hans worked at the Justice Department as counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights. Hans, welcome back to Washington Watch. We really appreciate you coming on. Sure. Thanks for having me. All right. So let's just begin with this. What can you tell us exactly who was pardoned with this last ditch effort 22 minutes before leaving office? Who was pardoned and what were they pardoned for?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, basically, it was the Biden family. Everyone and anyone who may have been and probably was involved in earning the $20 million from foreign sources that has been a subject of investigation, as you know, by the U.S. House for quite a while. And no crimes were specified. The pardon basically says any and all crimes that they might or could be charged with during that specific period of time. This is unprecedented. I don't think this has ever happened in our entire history. Pardons and commutations are given to people who have already been indicted and convicted. AND SO WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE. ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHO ACTUALLY MADE ONE OF THE BEST COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? WAS PRESIDENT-ELECT JOE BIDEN. HE WAS ACTUALLY INTERVIEWED IN Because back then, people were saying that outgoing President Donald Trump might do this. And he criticized this, saying, you know, the whole world looks at our legal system. This would create a terrible precedent and, in essence, would make people lose faith in the adherence of our country to the rule of law. And he said he would never do it. That tells you a lot about Joe Biden, doesn't it?
SPEAKER 10 :
It certainly does. So, all right, I've just got to ask you, this has been so disturbing to me. Is the president actually allowed to do this? And what I know, I know the president can pardon, but... What you just brought up, here we have a part of people who have not been convicted, have not been charged, not been indicted. It's just kind of a blanket immunity. If they ever did anything, does this not set potentially a stage where any administration can come in and direct whatever criminal activity to take place to accomplish whatever crime whatever administration may want to accomplish, and then just basically say, don't worry about it. We're just going to give everybody an immunity when it's all said and done. Is that kind of precedent a real potential threat?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that is exactly what it does, and that's why this should not have been done. Unfortunately, there's really not much that can be done about it. If you look at the president's pardon power in the Constitution, it's Article II, Section 2, it's virtually unlimited. And we've never had this happen before because, quite frankly, I don't think we've ever had a president as corrupt as Joe Biden and his family. And so it never occurred to anyone to do something like this. And there were never circumstances that led to this kind of thing happening. But it does set a terrible precedent. Future presidents could use this. to immunize all kinds of illegal criminal behavior. And I don't think that's the kind of country we want to be living in.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, absolutely not. So what needs to take place, what can take place to put a stop to this now to ensure that this type of thing is not a possibility in the future? I mean, like you said, we can't live in a country where we potentially have corrupt administrations that they can then cover up the behavior with a pardon.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, there's a couple of things to remember here. The only way you could change this is to, frankly, amend the Constitution. You'd have to amend the pardon power and put some limitations on it. But keep in mind, like I said, a couple of things. This only extends to federal crimes, okay? A president cannot pardon anyone for state crime. So if a state crime has been committed, these members of his family could still be prosecuted. The other thing it does is it doesn't hamper transparency and public disclosure through continued investigations by Congress. If the House wants to continue its investigation of the Biden family, and frankly, their skullduggery with these wealth transactions profiting off of the official positions of Joe Biden as the prior vice president, the one thing this does is take away the ability of any member of the Biden family, if they're subpoenaed, to come testify from asserting their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination because they've been pardoned. So they can't raise a Fifth Amendment defense. They have to answer questions. And that kind of investigation could hopefully lead, like I said, to more disclosure of the shenanigans that the Biden family engaged in.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. Well, that's encouraging to hear that, number one, this only applies to federal crimes, not state crimes. So there's probably something there if the investigations want to go further and that the investigations of Congress are not hampered. by this. Great, great points. Thank you so much, Hans von Spasskowski, Senior Legal Fellow at the Heritage Foundation. Always great to see you, and we're deeply grateful for you unpacking what's happening here. Thank you, sir.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sure. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 10 :
Always good to. All right, friends. Wow. We've got a lot happening in this program and there's a lot more still to come. After the break, I'm going to be joined by Larry Taunton, who is going to be joining us from Switzerland. Yes, he's at the World Economic Forum. And how has the new Trump administration affected the global conversations going on there? Well, that's up next. So stick around. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm your host today, sitting in for Tony. I'm Jody Heiss. Yesterday, on his first day back in office, President Trump took aim at the globalist institutions. like the World Economic Forum, for one. He signed an executive order that underscores his administration's stance against policies that these elites seem to champion. And, of course, Trump has long criticized the forum for advancing agendas that, in his view, undermine our national sovereignty and agendas that impose unfair economic burdens on American taxpayers. And as part of this push, Trump signed an executive order withdrawing, yes, withdrawing the U.S. from the Paris Climate Accord, which he and many others have criticized for its weak enforcement mechanisms and disproportionate demands that it has on the U.S., especially when you compare to countries like China. So what does this mean for Trump? environmental policies? What does it mean for global leadership and the growing influence of institutions like the World Economic Forum? Well, joining me now to break it all down is Larry Taunton. He's the executive director of the Fixed Point Foundation. Larry, welcome back to Washington Watch, and thank you for joining us from Switzerland.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's a pleasure to be with you.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. So what are you hearing and what are you learning from the World Economic Forum so far? And specifically, how does it all align with or conflict with the priorities that the Trump administration has?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, let me begin by saying something about my strategy here. Now, you have a variety of reporters, conservative and otherwise, who are here, and they're here with their news teams, with their camera crews, and they are ambushing, in some cases, some of the people who are speaking at the forum. My approach is completely different. I just pretend to be a weffer. That's what they call themselves, weffers. They refer to the meeting itself as the weff. And I just walk into every building like I own it and sit and listen to what they're saying. And the result of that is they tend to speak to you much more freely and openly. And I would say that this year, this is my third year in a row to attend, that what you're hearing is panic.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because of Trump? Panic because of what specifically?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the globalist agenda, yes, because of Trump, the globalist agenda hangs by a thread. And that is because the United States has really been the keystone to the globalist agenda. If the US falls, all other smaller boats are swamped. And we, of course, have been trending in that direction. But in November, that all took a massive swing in yet another direction. And of course, in the last 24 hours, Donald Trump has been inaugurated as president of the United States. And so far, he's done the things that he said he was going to do. And that is chiefly not simply take a... let's just say, a non-globalist position. He has taken a fierce anti-globalist position. And they see that as though he's some sort of hayseed and backward and somebody who just really doesn't understand what's good for mankind. But the World Economic Forum really isn't concerned with mankind. They're all about saving the planet and, of course, power.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. And Trump, you're exactly right. I mean, Trump, he recognizes that these elites, as you just described them, they have their own agenda. They have their own interests. And that cuts against our own national sovereignty and our own economic freedom and sovereignty. Trump is just pushing back majorly against, and we saw it yesterday. So how does Trump's approach challenge the influence of institutions like the forum? I mean, you said they're panicking, but this is going to, the United States carries so much of the weight behind these. And now that we're, you know, cutting it off, that's going to be a major challenge for them to overcome, won't it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. I mean, let's just take one issue, one that I have spoken about on this show before, and that's immigration. As Tony would know and others involved with Washington Watch, I have been tracking, following, accompanying some of the caravans that have been making their way to the United States border from all over South America through Darien Gap up to Mexico City and then ultimately to the last jump off to the U.S. border. Now, how does that relate to the WEF? Well, you see, the WEF, globalist as they are, they're all on board with the whole open society agenda, which essentially means open borders. And so Trump coming into office, what is the first thing that he says he's going to do? He's going to close the borders. and he's going to enforce a sensible immigration policy. Well, just an issue like that is, I mean, that's just one of many. That issue imperils their agenda. And part of their agenda in open borders is destabilization of a country like the United States and to change overnight the social, political, and infrastructural nature of the United States. And yet here's Trump who comes along and says, not only am I not a globalist, I'm an American patriot. And we're not going to have any more of this kind of nonsense. So you can imagine the kind of panic that is felt at a place like the World Economic Forum. Now, they're all trying to pretend like whistling through the graveyard like this maybe isn't, this is just perhaps a blip on their radar. But of course, it's a great deal more than that, and they know it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. Oh, and withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord also. I mean, it's just huge. Yeah, huge stuff here. Well, listen, Larry, I want to thank you so much for joining us. We're definitely going to have to bring you back and discuss some of this some more as all of this unfolds. There's so much taking place. But Larry Taunton, executive director of Fixed Point Foundation, thank you so much for joining us on Washington Watch.
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Absolutely. It's always good to see you guys. Thanks for having me. You guys take care and keep up the good work.
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You too. All right, friends, much more coming your way on Washington Watch. Don't go anywhere. We'll be back in just a moment.
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Good afternoon. Welcome back. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your host, Jody Heiss, sitting in today for Tony, who should be back in the saddle tomorrow. Before I go to my next guest, I want to, again, encourage you to get involved with moving important policies forward during this new Trump administration. And, friends, we have a tool for you that's going to enable you to do just that. So I want to encourage you to get our first 100 days toolkit. Now, this toolkit is going to equip you with the tools you need to find out your members of Congress. to support key legislation, to get insights on nominees, how to pray effectively, and so much more. Friends, there's nothing else like this out there. And you have an opportunity right now to access the first 100 days toolkit. You can do so by simply texting the word toolkit, that's one word, T-O-O-L-K-I-T, toolkit, to 67742. I encourage you, get your toolkit, and let's all be involved in helping this 100 days be all that it can be. All right. Yesterday, on his first day back in office, President Trump wasted no time. As you know by now, He signed a wave of executive orders aimed at fulfilling key campaign promises and at the same time reversing policies from the Biden administration. And earlier in the program, of course, we discussed some of the executive orders that he's already signed. And while we cannot in any way cover them all, we do want to highlight certain ones that address specific concerns that we have here at the Family Research Council. So joining me now to unpack some of them is Travis Weber. He's vice president for policy and government affairs here at FRC. Travis, thanks so much for joining me today on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 13 :
Jody, it's good to be with you.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. So we've got a batch of executive orders. It's quite in contrast, if you will, from the Biden administration, whose officials literally struggled to define what a man and a woman are. Correct. I mean, we're going in a different direction right now.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, Jody, we really are. President Trump has wasted no time in rolling out a number of executive actions starting yesterday, and I expect we'll see more in the days to come. These actions are focused on what we might expect, areas that he's highlighted a lot during the campaign, law and order, national security, the border. the economy, but there's also an overriding sense of kind of resetting and realigning America to where she should be. I think many will feel that America's gotten off the rails in recent years. We've been a nation in decline as as our leaders, including the Biden administration, have led us languished and have failed to effectively lead the nation where we should be going. And so, you know, a lot of President Trump's actions are resetting or starting the process of resetting America on the course she should be. And that comes in the areas economy, energy, you know, resetting America first priorities at home, but also abroad. There's a couple executive orders that have been issued regarding international matters, foreign affairs. And one of those is making sure that we have an America first foreign policy, one that serves our interest and not the interest of diplomats or elite global circles to the detriment of the American people who do not know what is being discussed by those who are supposed to be representing them. you know one area is is the world health organization so he's president trump has now issued an order saying that he intends to start the process of withdrawing from the world health organization a process he started in his first term that biden reversed and now trump's going to start once again and so um you know this is an issue that's that is familiar to many we were at the world health assembly in geneva last may where we were tracking the pandemic agreement which is concerning from the perspective of sovereignty being eroded as global bodies, including the World Health Organization, aggregate power to themselves. So hopefully this will be a reset in this area of the World Health Organization and other UN entities, in addition to resets of other areas like foreign aid, foreign policy, which we'll see implemented in the days to come.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, and I want to talk about some of those, but there's no doubt, Travis, FRC has been closely tracking the World Health Organization, particularly since COVID. And quite frankly, so many have contacted us and been in touch with us. It seems like the whole country is concerned about the World Health Organization. No doubt the U.S. has been... propping it up in many ways for a long, long time. So as President Trump now comes in beginning the process, as you describe, of resetting and really starting the process of withdrawing us from the World Health Organization, what impact would that have both on the United States and on the World Health Organization as a whole?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, well, the WHO put out a statement saying that they're disappointed in the president's decision. The US is a massive funder of the WHO. Their own livelihood is on the line. But that should help them see clearly that they need to pay attention to what the United States is the U.S. perspective on the WHO and what it wants to do. This is part of the problem, Jody. We have these bodies like the WHO. They're designed for a purpose that no one would really argue with. We need to have nations have a mechanism to prevent diseases that cross borders. Okay, a lot of people will get that. But then it goes off the rails at some point. under COVID, what we saw were abuses by governments in the areas of freedom, religious freedom, free speech. There were a lot of censorship and individual rights were suppressed in many places globally. And instead of that being a topic that's discussed at the World Health Assembly, they're discussing what they could do to increase their power, increase their ability to exert control over the next policy response, which is going to be named in the name of safety, but it's control. And the discussions of rights and freedom and the violations of THE WHO POLICIES WERE IMPLEMENTED. WE'RE NOT DISCUSSED AT ALL. SO, YOU KNOW, JODY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED THE PEOPLE AT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION AND BODIES LIKE THAT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE WHO ARE FUNDING THEM, THOSE WHO ARE GRANTING THEM THEIR AUTHORITY. It's nation states who've agreed to the WHO, who are part of the WHO, including the U.S. So Trump is going to withdraw. And certainly there are going to be discussions. Part of the WHO executive order says that the means or the ends to which the WHO, the goals of the WHO, in so many words, there are other ways we can accomplish what we are trying to do in the WHO. So this is going to be an important discussion. And it's going to be important for us to continue to have to watch what's happening, though, because we don't want the same violations, same sovereignty erosions to take place in another way.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. You also mentioned a moment ago, if we can transition on the topic of foreign aid, there's no question President Trump has had his eye on the foreign aid that the Biden administration has been doling out. So what does the Trump executive order on foreign aid do?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, so Jody, this just pauses foreign aid for a period of time until the whole system can be reformed. And I think this is really welcome because I just want to actually read from this order. I have it in front of me here. It says that U.S. foreign aid industry and bureaucracy are not aligned with American interests and in many cases antithetical to American values. They serve to destabilize world peace by promoting ideas in foreign countries that are directly inverse of to harmonious and stable relations internal to those countries. And so this makes an important point. Certainly this language is getting at what we have been doing over the past number of years promoting LGBT ideology and gender ideology, radical abortion positions, climate positions globally, including in places that are repelled by our insistence on pushing these policies on them, places like Africa and Eastern Europe, and places that were also competing with China. So we're shooting ourselves in the foot by promoting these ideologies in these places. So certainly this language is getting at Guys, we need to stop this. Let's pause. Let's reassess. Is U.S. foreign aid serving American interests? And certainly with this 90 day pause in U.S. foreign aid that the executive order articulates, we hope to see instead of. you know, bad policies, which we need to see a rollback, a de-woking of our foreign policy gets us back to neutral. In place of that, we want to see foreign aid used to promote values that serve our interest in being a beacon to the world, a shining city on a hill, promoting true human rights, freedom, religious freedom, and life and family, and family flourishing everywhere we can see fit. So, Jody, that's my hope and prayer for what will happen under this executive order.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, so that's a great point. So it's both and. So in addition to President Trump having executive orders getting rid of some bad programs, some, in this case, bad foreign aid programs, there were also some good foreign aid programs that the Biden administration stopped, put a hold on, that probably President Trump should restore. Any comment on that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, well, so we had in the last administration, there was a large effort to promote religious freedom globally. And this was so well received and so needed by those suffering persecution around the world for their faith, Christians and others. And the ministerial to advance religious freedom that was run in the State Department is an example of this. There were human rights efforts, efforts that expanded and displayed globally the founding ideals of America. You know, we're coming up on the 250th anniversary of American independence. And so, Jody, this is an opportunity to bring some of those out again, bring them into the light so that America may be a blessing both to its people at home, but to all people who desire freedom around the world.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, looking ahead, let me just put this. I actually had Congressman Josh Perkin on with me a little bit earlier in the program, and he actually mentioned the Mexico City policy. So looking ahead, I mean, no doubt there's going to be a number of additional executive orders that are going to find their way to President Trump's desk. And one of those may be the Mexico City policy. So tell us about that. First of all, explain real quickly what the Mexico City policy is. And do you, by any way, maybe expect that to happen this week? Is that one of those going to be a priority?
SPEAKER 13 :
We hope so. You know, certainly this one falls within the spirit of what President Trump's already articulated with resetting foreign aid, resetting foreign policy priorities. And it's one that he issued the first time around. President Biden revoked it. AND WE HOPE HE ISSUES IT AGAIN. WHAT IT SAYS IS U.S. FOREIGN ASSISTANCE SHOULD GO TOWARDS PROTECTING AND PROMOTING LIFE AROUND THE WORLD, SHOULD NOT BE USED TO PROMOTE ABORTION. AND SO THIS ALSO FITS WITHIN THIS DEWOKING OF U.S. FOREIGN POLICY. WE SHOULD NOT BE PUSHING ABORTION ON ANY COUNTRY. And it's even more egregious when it's done in a way, done in these countries that are saying we don't want this and feel coerced by America. So that Mexico City policy executive order is one that is a healthy and needed part of what we already saw started by the president yesterday with this resetting foreign aid executive order. And I do hope it's issued again because many countries around the world, including African countries, including countries in Eastern Europe who do not want to be coerced by the U.S., WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE CLARITY THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER BRINGS, WHICH THE ORDER BASICALLY PROVIDES THAT U.S. FOREIGN ASSISTANCE FUNDS CANNOT GO TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROMOTE OR PERFORM ABORTIONS OVERSEAS. IT SHOULD BE A NO-BRAINER, BUT UNFORTUNATELY BIDEN WAS INSISTENT ON AND HIS ADMINISTRATION INSISTENT ON PUSHING this around the world. So we hope President Trump will be part of de-woking our foreign policy. We need to put that in place again and see that no U.S. taxpayer dollars are pushing abortion on foreign countries. In addition, we should not be pushing LGBT ideology, any social policies that are offensive to these local cultures of these countries around the world.
SPEAKER 10 :
De-woke. De-woke. I love that. That kind of puts it all in perspective right there in one simple term. All right, Travis Weber, are there any other executive orders that the president has signed or has promised to sign that you think would be of particular interest and concern to evangelicals?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I mean, Jody, we've seen a number of good orders signed so far. In addition to the ones that I've already mentioned, there's one that also resets, you know, says the U.S. foreign policy should be an American first foreign policy. So we have some good foreign policy EOs. THERE'S ONE THAT CLARIFIES THAT MALE AND FEMALE BIOLOGICAL REALITY SHALL BE THE POLICY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO TRUMP HAS ROLLED BACK A NUMBER OF HARMFUL BIDEN EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND HE ISSUED THIS BIOLOGICAL REALITY EXECUTIVE ORDER CLARIFYING THROUGHOUT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, EXECUTIVE The policy will be guided by the reality that we are male and female. So part of that order significantly also says that U.S. federal funds should not go to funding gender ideology. This is very significant because it gets at the question of how the U.S. tax dollar is being used. U.S. tax dollars should not be going to fund these ideologies at home or abroad. And so this is a very encouraging part of the executive order. We'll have to keep an eye on that to see that it's fully implemented. And certainly, in effect, this is a no taxpayer funding for gender ideology. executive order. So that's a very encouraging one. It's quite lengthy. There's other provisions in there mentioning the need to protect women in prisons and other contexts in which gender ideology has harmed women. Jody, there are a number of other orders dealing with a lot of law and order issues, national security issues, the border. I think helpfully really kind of putting America back on the rails to give us a chance, clear the rubble So the American people can live up to their potential, can exercise their freedom, and the American church can live out its role in a robust way, seeking to bless the country and pray for the country as President Trump kind of clears the way by clearing the pathway ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you so, so much, Travis Weber, Vice President for Policy and Government Affairs here at FRC. Excellent information. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, Judy. All right, friends, you've heard a lot, and I want to encourage you, each of you, be praying for this next 100 days is critical. Thank you for joining us today on Washington Watch. Tony should be back in the chair tomorrow. Have a great evening. We'll see you.
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