Join host Jody Heiss as he delves into the intricacies of the US-backed Gaza ceasefire, with insights from President Trump's recent Asia tour. Tune in to learn about the ongoing tensions in the Middle East, the government shutdown causing ripples across the nation, and the critical trade negotiations with South Korea and China.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
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Hamas is a very small part of peace in the Middle East, and they have to behave. They're on the rough side. But they said they would be good. And if they're good, they're going to be happy. And if they're not good, they're going to be terminated. Their lives will be terminated. And they understand that.
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Well, that was President Trump earlier today saying the U.S.-backed Gaza ceasefire remains intact after Israel launched airstrikes against Hamas terrorists. So as of now, the U.S. is standing firm with Israel. Welcome to this October 29th edition of Washington Watch. I am your host today, Jody Heiss, filling in for Tony Perkins. Thank you so much for tuning in. All right, coming up today, as the world waits for President Trump to meet with China's president in South Korea, people of faith are watching to see what he'll do on the issue of religious freedom. We'll shortly hear from the son of a South Korean pastor who's been jailed for speaking up for biblical values. Also, Congressman Michael Cloud from Texas will join me in a few moments to give us the latest on the government shutdown. Israel says it remains committed to the U.S.-backed ceasefire in Gaza, even after launching heavy airstrikes in response to the killing of an Israeli soldier. Israel said that it killed dozens of Hamas terrorists last night. They also confirmed another strike today, killing two more Hamas terrorists in northern Gaza. So this is the worst escalation since the ceasefire, the shaky ceasefire, took place on October 10th. Joining me now is Washington Standard reporter Casey Harper. Thanks, Casey, for joining me. Man, this ceasefire looks like it's hanging by a thread. What's the latest that you're hearing about it right now?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, hanging by a thread indeed is certainly the case, Jody. But Israel said that they are upholding their end of the ceasefire despite those strikes which were last night and into this morning. Now, the strikes came after Hamas fighters attacked and killed an Israeli soldier, which of course is a violation of this U.S.-backed truce. But President Trump made clear Hamas has to honor the ceasefire, and he doubled down on America's commitment to defend Israel.
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They took out, they killed an Israeli soldier, so the Israelis hit back. And they should hit back. When that happens, they should hit back.
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However, while Hamas released all living hostages and Israel has stopped its strikes, at least for now, attention has shifted to the return of those 13 deceased hostages, which have still not been returned. Hamas says, well, it's going to take time, but Israel says that Hamas is purposefully delaying returning the bodies, possibly just to keep leverage over Israel. With all these hangups, a lot of strikes for a ceasefire, Jody, but we'll see whether it remains intact.
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Well, a lot going on there in Israel. At the same time, the president is in Asia. What are you hearing about how things are going there?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Jody, so President Trump, he finalized a major trade deal with South Korea today. So South Korea is going to invest $350 billion in the U.S. in exchange for lower tariffs from the president. This is going to be a big boost for American workers and industries. But now the attention is moving to Trump's meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Busan tomorrow. The president is reportedly hoping to restore a trade truce after we nearly entered a trade war with China. Some key U.S. goals in the negotiation are getting China to delay rare earth export restrictions, which are really important for microchips and AI and the like, as well as resume buying American soybeans. Trump also wants China to crack down on fentanyl production, because those drugs inevitably end up in the U.S. And the president is hoping to resolve the TikTok issue, with part of TikTok possibly coming under U.S. ownership. So as you can see, it's a very big week for the president and for the U.S. economy, Jody.
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It really is a huge, huge week. You look at it, incredible successes seemingly, but at the same time, all eyes are on what's happening with the next meeting with China's leader. Casey, if I can, back here to Washington, D.C., the government shutdown. Is there any movement at all that you're hearing? How do things stand right now with the shutdown?
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Jody, every day I come on and disappoint you. I'm sorry. We're at day 29, and there's no end in sight to the shutdown. And to be frank, we're going to see some major consequences for that. First of all, millions of Americans may not be able to pay their heating bills this winter because of the government shutdown. How is that? Well, about $3.6 billion in federal funds goes to the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, but now it's being delayed. On top of that, Americans can expect flight delays, which we've talked about on the program, and 42 million Americans relying on federal food stamps are going to face cuts. Republican congressional leaders, including Senate Majority Leader John Thune, they're continuing to accuse Democrats of obstruction, of being held hostage by the far-left base, and Americans are the ones paying the price.
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Democrats have spent a month, a month now, Playing with people's livelihoods because the far left wing of their party won't let them accept a clean, nonpartisan CR. Enough is enough.
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The Senate is expected to vote again tomorrow for the 14th time on a clean CR, but Democrats are expected to block the measure, once again keeping the government shutdown in place, Jody.
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Wow. Just wonder when all the insanity will stop. Casey, thank you so much for these updates. We appreciate it. All right. I want to continue the discussion on the government shutdown from a congressional perspective. And joining me now to discuss this and more is Congressman Michael Cloud. He's a member of the Appropriations Committee, as well as the Oversight and Government Reform Committee. He represents the great state of Texas, the 27th district there. Congressman Cloud, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always an honor to have you.
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Sure thing. Good to be on with you today.
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All right. So what is the latest chatter that you're hearing on the government shutdown? Is any progress potential out there?
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Well, I wish I could tell you there's a whole lot more news to report on this, but sad to say it's another trip around the sun, so to speak, with the Democrats digging in still in the Senate and not willing to move off their untenable positions. Remember, this is funding that they initially passed and the things that they're complaining about. uh have nothing to do with this piece of legislation or for example the deadlines that they're concerned about are deadlines that they set in place and voted on so there's really nothing for us to do as republicans when it comes to this piece of legislation there aren't our priorities there are their priorities We were simply looking to keep the government up and running while we extend the calendar so we can complete the appropriations process, which does have our priorities in it. That's a good place to negotiate if they want to. But right now, this is meant to just keep the doors open, sadly, Even the timeline on this, if it were to pass today, which it looks like the Dems are going to continue to dig in for the next few days, it would only increase the calendar for a few more weeks. And so we have some work to do. We're going to need them to play ball in the Senate to get the work done for the American people.
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Yeah, I mean, all this, as you mentioned, are things that they've supported in the past, which makes you think this is all about just their dislike for President Trump, which is not a worthy enough reason to shut down the government. But I don't know if you've heard about this, Congressman Cloud. I heard about it just a little while ago, but evidently Senate Majority Leader John Thune is expecting to meet with a group of rank-and-file House Democrats about the shutdown. Are you hearing anything about that? What do you make of it? Is there potential that they could be looking for an off-ramp right now and put an end to it?
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I'm certain there are some Senate Dems who do want an off-ramp. Even Schumer, I think if he had an idea to how to save face and get out of it, probably would want out of it. As you mentioned, he's not opposed policy-wise. This is legislation that he's voted for a number of times. It's just he's quite in the political pickle, so to speak, in what to do, both in dealing with what he has politically going on back in his home state and then how to keep the far left extreme of their wing happy. And so they're in a hard place when they stop putting the American people first and putting what needs to be done first. This isn't a policy argument with them. They've even said as much as, you know, this is the only leverage we have to try to score whatever political points they need to score. And so hopefully we'll be able to find some more sensible Senate Democrats who can you know see the fact that something needs to move here and maybe one by one help us come to pass this impasse but you know that's so far all we've seen is the digging into the heels and and that's not good for anyone
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Yeah, and they're certainly not winning either. Every poll I've seen has Republicans taking advantage of this in all the polls with the American people. I want to ask you this real quickly, then I want to change topics with you. But all of this, the CR was voted on back over a month ago or about a month ago, September 19th. But all that was to try to just push this out seven weeks, which that deadline would be November 12th. So even I mean, November 21st. So even if the Democrats did pass something now, does that deadline need to be changed? And, you know, if so, what would happen there? What else might change?
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Yeah, the deadline certainly is an issue at this point as we get close. Again, the goal was for us to have time to work into conference on the appropriations bills that are coming through. We've already passed them out of the committee and they need to be addressed in conference committee between the House and the Senate and then onto the floor. But, you know, we're running out of time to do that. And so the date is most definitely going to be an issue. And this is Again, as you mentioned, you know, I'm no fan of CRs, but it was a way for us to get to the proper appropriations and process. The big vision here is we're trying to break the back of the Christmas omnibus. We've been making some headway over the last several years in this, but, of course, the swamp wants to swamp, and they're going to do everything they can to manipulate the calendar, to dig in their heels, to do whatever they can to push us to that massive multi – thousand-page bill with trillions of spending that nobody knows what's in it that does nothing but expand government and put a heavy debt burden on the American people and has no policy wins. That's not what this president's about. That's not what Republicans in Congress are working for. And so we're going to do everything we can in spite of the tricks and games that they're pulling and trying to manipulate the calendar. to make sure that we're breaking the back and getting gains for the American people, not only in the policy, but in how Washington, D.C. works.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, thank you for standing firm with that. Real quickly, we've only got a little over a minute left, but you also serve on the Oversight Committee. Great committee. The staff there in that committee released a report yesterday on President Biden's auto-pin presidency. Tell us about that real quickly.
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Well, what so many Americans expected has been true. And many people are wondering who's really running the White House. And what we found out is that the staff was doing quite a bit of the work, even when it came to signing pieces of legislative or executive orders, I should say, or signing pardons. And this is very troubling, especially when you find out that staff members were approving the use of the auto pen. And you even had Biden's DOJ saying this is probably not a good idea to be using the auto pin machine on things that have any sort of legal merit to it. You know, birthday cards, Christmas cards. OK, we understand you can't in about millions to handwritten signatures from the president. But but when it comes to things that have legal consequences, the president needs to be involved, certainly needs to know about it and actually be the one signing it.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss, an honor to be filling in today for Tony, and thank you so much for tuning in as well. All right, as you know by now, President Trump is in South Korea. This is the last stop of his five-day Asia tour. And while the media, at least the legacy media, is focused on what's been and what could be coming out of all the trade talks between the U.S. and various Asian nations, Religious liberty advocates are eyeing what the president might do for religious freedom. Now, those of you who joined us yesterday will recall that Tony had the daughter of a Chinese house church leader who has been detained since the massive crackdown by the Chinese Communist Party earlier this month. Well, today, now we have joining us the son of a South Korean church leader who has been jailed essentially for doing what we here at FRC have been encouraging Christians to do for a long, long time, and that is to pray, vote, and stand for biblical values. We're here now to share his father's story is Chance Son. Chance, thank you for joining us today on Washington Watch.
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Yeah, thank you so much for having me here. It's my honor to be able to share my father's story.
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Well, let's start with that. Your father is a well-known pastor in South Korea. Tell us briefly a little bit about your father. Give us a brief introduction about him.
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Yeah, so my father is a senior pastor of a secular church located in Busan, one of Korea's most influential evangelical churches with up to 10,000 weekly attendees on Sundays. And only a few other exceptionally influential churches are located in Seoul. And he took a very struggling rural congregation of 20 people and grew it into this major church through evangelism and community service. And he's also known for personal integrity as he has never accepted an honoraria That's very common in Korea when you go to funeral or go to revival. However, he's never taken it. And also, he also donated all book proceeds to ministry. And he's called special forces pastor as well.
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So what has happened to him? What sounds like an upstanding man of impeccable character? What has happened? And what's the situation with your father now?
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Yeah, so he's facing 16 lawsuits actually right now for simply holding worship during COVID restrictions and also opposing anti-biblical homosexuality law, the comprehensive anti-discrimination law. And also... basically opposing the tyranny that the Democrats are doing in Korea right now. And he's been arrested ever since September 8th, 2025 for alleged uh illegal action electioneering as prosecutors claim sermons prayer meetings and microphone and youtube uploads are a disguise campaign rallies and in reality there is no direct call to vote however because he invited a candidate for super intended of education in busan simply asking him two questions how his views are regarding freedom in education or also lgbtq education that's been affecting our families and children um that's basically what the charges are and it's only under nine minutes and he invited the candidate onto the pulpit um after the sermon service and that's what they're calling it for illegal electioneering for using the PA system because under the civil law election law you're not allowed to use PA system and endorsing a candidate even though he wasn't even he was just simply asking him questions
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow. All of this, Chance, is so unusual to me. I mean, we're talking South Korea. We're not talking about China or North Korea. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago, I was honored to be the keynote speaker at the South Korea-US National Prayer Breakfast. I mean, we typically think of South Korea as a nation with a strong church presence. How have things changed there?
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Yeah, since COVID era, when the government was telling churches to hold only five worshipers or 20 worshipers, depending on the period, a lot of Korean churches comply with that. However, my father's church, my father and secular church was the only mega church that did not comply with that. And because it was absurd to only allow five worshipers in a sanctuary, For example, Sacred Church can contain up to 6,000, 7,000 members. However, my father and Sacred Church conducted service with more than thousands. Of course, social distancing, wearing a mask, but it was to extend that church was closed down, shut down physically with ropes behind around the church and also locked down. And There was COVID, and not enough of Korean church leaders spoke out about it. That's why the government, the Democrat government, is pushing these agendas harshly more and more. And they have been successful in that.
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Yeah, so President Trump is there in South Korea right now, and he is aware. In fact, he's made comments about the raids and so forth that have taken place. What would you hope, what would you encourage President Trump to say right now in South Korea to his counterpart?
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Yeah. Urge South Korea to respect freedom of worship, and also freedom is not only essential in this world, but to remind South Korea that U.S. and Korea partnership is built not just on security and trade, but also on shared values of freedom and faith. And encourage accountability, as churches must never again be defeated by the state. as they have been rated in May, Sacred Church, and in July, Yoi the Full Gospel, and in July again, Far East Broadcasting Company that's founded by Reverend Belichick.
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Less than a minute left. How would you encourage people here in the United States to pray? What are the biggest needs right now?
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Yeah, so basically pray for the Korean church now about only my father because it's not about one person, but for the Korean church to be faithful and not fearful because courage is very, very demanding right now, even under persecution of the religious leaders and also Christians in Korea. and also pray for leaders in korea and the u.s to defend the religious freedom and also stand against the political retaliation and that's uh what's needed the most and also to be true to be told by the by the christian leaders and uh korean church as well not not now this is time to take offense thank you
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Thank you so much, Chance Son. We will be praying for your father, Pastor Sanyon Bo. All right, coming up, friends, we've got some important elections coming up next week. We want to unwrap all of that and the importance of it. We'll do so right after the break. Stay tuned.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good afternoon. I am Jody Heiss filling in today for Tony, and thank you for joining us as well. All right, the midterm elections are a year away, but next week gets kicked off some off-year elections, and that's certainly... will be setting the stage for the elections coming up next year. And there are some pretty notable contests that will be taking place, including the high-stakes governor's races in Virginia and New Jersey. And look, we here on Washington Watch and FRC, we all need to encourage one another to be informed, to be engaged. It certainly is our civic responsibility, but also our responsibility as Christians biblically I mean, we need to let our light shine in the public square. Well, joining me now to give a preview of next week's elections is Matt Carpenter. He's the director of FRC Action. Matt, thank you for joining me today. As always, good to have you.
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Thanks for having me, Jody.
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All right, let's kick it off with some of the most notable races next week, particularly Virginia, New Jersey, and New York. Can you kind of break those down for us?
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Yeah, Jody, your comments were spot on. Both of those states, Virginia and New Jersey, are sort of considered bellwethers. Oftentimes, Virginia will elect a governor of the opposite party from whoever won the previous presidential election. That has kind of held historically. There's been a few exceptions for that. So there's a lot of eyes on Virginia in that race. You've got Democrat Abigail Spanberger facing off against Republican winsome Earl Sears. Now, Spanberger has held a pretty consistent lead outside the margin of error in that one. But in the late stretch, just around the time when early voting started in the Commonwealth, the text messages from Democrat nominee for Attorney General Jay Jones came to light where he fantasized about the violent deaths of his political opponents and their families. And so that has kind of... thrown a lot up in the air. We've seen some of the polling sort of start to sink for some of the Democratic candidates, so it seems to be tightening, but I would say the Democrats are certainly probably favored in that one. Much closer contest in New Jersey, where you've got Republican Jack Cittarelli, I believe I'm saying that correctly, who almost actually won in 2021 against Democrat incumbent Phil Murphy in New Jersey, facing off against Democrat Mickey Sherrill. So Sherrill has had a lead in this one, kind of consistently throughout the race, but it's been within the margin of error among most of the public polling I've seen. So it's a close race. But a lot of attention, as you pointed out, for the New York City mayoral race this year, where Democrat nominee Zoran Mamdani, an avowed socialist, repeatedly refusing to condemn Hamas, and just a slew of other extreme hard left policies. is the front runner in that one. He's got about 45% of the support from New Yorkers and all the publicly available polling. And it's a three-way race. You've got independent Andrew Cuomo, former Democrat governor, and then also Republican Curtis Sliwa. So you've got this trifecta of candidates who are sort of cutting against the support that would be going after Mamdani's support there in New York, obviously our country's largest city, immensely important what comes out of there.
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And all of this, and our time's clicking away pretty rapidly, but all of this is historically kind of sets the stage for the midterm elections that'll take place. How high stakes is the elections next week going to be, you think?
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I think it's incredibly high stakes. It's always a barometer of voter enthusiasm. That's kind of the big takeaway. And on these low turnout, generally off your elections or low turnout elections, it's a it's a chance for most of the major parties to figure out how energized is our base of support.
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So what about in the midst of all this, too? We have a lot of battling taking place over redistricting. What's some of the latest news on that?
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It's like every day there's something new coming out on this redistricting fight. We just saw today the Senate president in Maryland came out against redistricting. This was a surprise. It's a Democrat-controlled state. Democrat Governor Wes Moore in Maryland came out in favor of redistricting, as did the Democrat Speaker of the House there in Maryland. So for the Senate president in Maryland to throw cold water on that idea is a departure from what we've seen, where you just have kind of seen state after state respond to what Started in Texas and then California took over. But actually, we've also got news that now Virginia has been looking at redistricting. Now, they've got a complex situation. They've got to amend their constitution, which requires them to pass a constitutional amendment in two different sessions of the legislature and get all this done before April. So they don't have any margin for error. You've also got a special session in Indiana starting next week. Governor Braun called a special session there to look at. redrawing districts. And Jody, as you know, the way you draw a district is going to basically predetermine what kind of outcomes you can get from that district. It goes a long way to determine an election outcome.
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Well, it's all just seemed like there's so many plates spinning. Matt, I know our time is just about up. I did want to just give you and FRC Action a plug. Along with iVoterGuide, I had Debbie Wuthnow on with me Monday. She's the president of iVoterGuide, which is a resource that you and FRC Action use. Fantastic resource. Here in less than a minute that we have left, what do you say to people who may not be considering voting yet? And what do you say about iVoterGuide?
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Yeah, hugely supportive of Debbie and the work that they're doing over at iVoterGuide. I would highly encourage everyone to go check out FRCAction.org. Go to iVoterGuide.com. You see the website there on the bottom of the screen. Go check it out. They've got customized voter guides. Whatever's on your ballot, whatever election cycle, they've done the research. They can tell you where the candidates stand on the issues that matter to you. It's incredibly important that the body of Christ have their voices heard from election time.
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Yeah, it really is. I, in fact, just today took a visit to iVoterGuide myself just to check it out and see what's happening in my home state of Georgia. And it's just amazing the research that they have specifically for the Bible-based community. As always, Matt Carpenter, director of FRC Action. Thank you for joining us on Washington Watch. Coming up, a lot of news coming out of Israel. We'll go there right after the break. Stay with us.
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Thank you for joining us today on Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss, honored to be sitting in today for Tony. Before we bring on our final guest for today, I want to remind you that this Saturday, November 1st, We will begin the first part of Paul's prison letters in our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. Our 14-day journey is going to take us through Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Philemon. And to help you, we have a new study guide, Paul's Prison Letters, that's available in print or digital. and the guide will help you apply Paul's messages of faith and freedom to your own life. And to find out how you can get a copy, simply text the word LETTERS to 67742. Okay, the Israel Hamas ceasefire, as you know by now, is back on, following some shaky ground and some retaliatory strikes by Israel on dozens of Hamas terror targets throughout the Gaza Strip. In a statement this morning, Israel Defense Forces said it will continue to uphold the ceasefire agreement and will respond firmly to any violation of it. So the latest flare-up has not derailed the peace process, but just how close to the edge of the cliff are we? Well, joining me now to discuss this and more is Dr. David Adesnick. He's vice president of research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He also previously served as deputy director for the Joint Data Support at the U.S. Department of Defense. David, thank you so much for joining us on Washington Watch. We appreciate you coming.
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Thank you for the opportunity.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, it has been quite an eventful 24 hours that's unfolded between Israel and Hamas. Tell us what the ceasefire is holding on by and the direction that things have been headed, and give us your thoughts on it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we've seen a pattern a few times now where there seems to be probes by Hamas to see if a violation will provoke an Israeli reaction. Not uncommonly, you know, it could happen at night, it could happen in a place where there's Not a lot of surveillance and we wind up with questions about who moved first. But that's all part of what Hamas wants. They ideally would like to establish a situation where they violate the ceasefire and then all the pressure is on Israel not to fire back. I mean, clearly so far, Israel's not feeling that pressure. They've hit back quite hard. because what they're concerned about is a situation where Hamas establishes for itself a right to shoot, to snipe at Israeli targets, and then be free from retaliation despite what it does. So I don't think that tells us we're very near a cliff. Rather, we're in a testing phase where Hamas wants to see how much the United States is committed to preserving this and how much freedom of action it will give to Israel.
SPEAKER 17 :
OK, well, that's a good take. And I think that's consistent with what I'm hearing, frankly, from the Trump administration, where the president has been expressing confidence that the ceasefire is going to hold. So am I hearing you correctly that you would agree with that, that at least for now you see this holding?
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I always hesitate to wager two butts on predictions about what's going to happen in the Middle East. But my sense is the one you described, that I think it's more likely than not it's going to hold. We may see more rounds of violations and firing back. But it's a feeling out process right now. I don't think either side wants to go back to war. I mean, there's no question Israelis have been fighting two years after the trauma of October 7th. They would much rather take a break, prepare and heal. And Hamas seems to have been hurt pretty badly. It's always hard to tell with them, but I'm not sure they want another full round of fighting either.
SPEAKER 17 :
So just going a little bit deeper into this, let me ask you this question, because Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene drew some attention today by citing some casualty figures that came from the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry, which claimed that there were, I think, 46 children who were killed in the strikes. My question to you is, are those figures that come out of the so-called local health officials there, are those independently verified or do they differentiate between civilians and combatants and that type of thing? Is that accurate? Are those numbers accurate, do you believe?
SPEAKER 05 :
So I've done a fair amount of research on this over the course of the war, and a lot of caution is in order. First, you flagged the point that there's never any information included about how many of those who were hit were Hamas fighters. The idea is to present the largest possible death toll and give people outside no information about how many were people potentially even firing at the Israelis or military targets. As for the ministry itself, it's unfortunate when the news, I mean, I just saw NBC News do it, refers to it as just local health officials. This is part of a Hamas-run dictatorship in Gaza. It's under political control. Even if there are some people who just want to do their job, as there are in any dictatorship, the bottom line comes from the top. That said, there has been a lot of suffering by civilians in this situation. You know, Hamas has provoked a war in a fairly small sandbox, and the people are not allowed to leave. In most wars, like in the war in Syria across Israel's northern border, millions of people flee to get away from a war zone. Hamas doesn't want that. Other people don't want that. So unfortunately, we have seen a lot of civilian casualties. Roughly, if we're talking about several tens of thousands of people that have been killed, many of them fighters, I think that number is probably in the ballpark. On any given day, it's basically impossible to verify the number that comes out of the health ministry, whether they say 20, 40, 100. There's no verification by anyone who isn't Hamas.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so let's turn a little bit of our discussion to the remaining deceased hostages. What is the latest on that? That seems to be yet another piece of this that's just all over the map from one day to the next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, obviously there's a commitment by Hamas as part of the ceasefire they agreed to, to return all of the remains. We say all the hostages, the 20 living that were returned right away. And there's a number of those whose remains have not yet come back. It's very hard to tell. Did Hamas genuinely lose control of those remains? Does it not know where they are? There seems to be a number of cases. Well, there's definitely cases where they have returned remains. that Israeli authorities examined and found did not belong to Israeli hostages. It's not entirely clear if this is a deliberate deception or more of a matter of incompetence or testing boundaries. There even has been reported footage of a case where remains were buried deliberately and then uncovered sort of in a show for the Israelis. So there's a lot of uncertainty, and I would hesitate to say anything from about exactly what Hamas has in the plan.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, there really is a lot of uncertainty. And yet I know this is and you know, this is a big issue to Israel. So it's going to be interesting again to see how that goes. Let me get let me go now to President Trump's 20 point peace plan. Part of that involves disarming Hamas. Okay, we've had Qatar's prime minister was asked about this yesterday, and he said that they are pushing Hamas and all Palestinian factions in Gaza to get to the point where they acknowledge that they need to disarm. So what does that tell you about where we are on this part of the peace plan?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it says I don't think we've made much progress beyond the initial agreement where Hamas said it would return the hostages and basically said they are signing up for none of the other effectively 19 points in that plan. They've been ambiguous. They've been evasive. At times off the record, they've just said we're not disarming. There's no sense they really want to do that. I think fundamentally they want to test who's going to disarm us. You know, the United States is insisting this is part of the plan. I don't think Egyptian or Jordanian or Saudi or Emirati troops want to go in and do it. For Israeli troops to go in is to renew the war. And I think they're betting the Israelis don't want to do that. And certainly we know there's not going to be American boots on the ground. I think Hamas is making a fairly astute gamble that no one is really going to force this on them.
SPEAKER 17 :
You see, and that to me, at least, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that to me brings us full circle back around that this thing is hanging by a thread, this whole peace deal. I mean, if they are not going to be disarmed, they will use their arms, and this peace does not take effect.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's true, but I think the question is how long might a truce hold just because both sides are rearming and preparing for the next round rather than getting ready to continue immediately. So, you know, compared to other offers that have been put on the table previously, one of the things about the Trump plan is Israel did not have to pull entirely out of Gaza in order to get its hostages back. There's a so-called yellow line roughly cutting Gaza in half. And while on one side of the line, basically to the west, Hamas has control, Israel has positions from which it can hit back as well. So it didn't have to give up everything it fought for during the war. So I do think it's possible. And this is why we saw a year or two years between the numerous rounds of fighting previously. We first had one in 2008, 2009, 2011, 2014, 2021. Why do they stop any time if they still have weapons? Because like in any war, people want to rest, rearm, and get ready for the next round. I think Israel would prefer no more rounds. It would like a solid agreement to get everyone back, all hostages, all remains, and have a government there that was more interested in building up the place than having it destroyed again in an effort to destroy Israel. But they also know they're not going to get that likely. And Hamas is just preparing because its mission remains the same from the moment it emerged in 1988 with its charter. It's to destroy the Zionist entity.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Getting less attention in all of this is the delivery of humanitarian aid to Gaza. How's that going?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, the pause in fighting has made that a lot easier. I mean, it was a very controversial situation. And some of the international authorities declared, in fact, there was, quote, a famine uh in in gaza this is something i've been tracking fairly closely i think the claims were made based on these authorities bending the statistics quite a bit you know they have a whole uh you know 200 page guidebook on the technical specifications but you know where were the people actually starving to death they sort of made a finding well we're just pretty sure it's happening even if we can't see it so the the aid was coming in more than many of the headlines would have led you to believe And, you know, one of the biggest problems, which was the constant looting, is abating now. I mean, we have this crazy situation where basically five out of every six trucks that UN agencies were sending into Gaza, they knew they weren't going to reach their destination, that either gangs or just hungry people or possibly the two in coordination were going to strip those trucks of what they had.
SPEAKER 17 :
The president did not originally set a timeline for this 20-point peace plan, but from what you're seeing, do you have any idea when it might unfold? Are we talking weeks or months or maybe even years?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there is an effort underway that the Egyptians initiated to form a so-called administrative committee that would be something like the technocratic non-political committee that the plan calls for to govern Gaza in the interim. The problem is the Egyptians included Hamas in the negotiations and let them pick people on the committee. It'll be interesting now to see how the U.S. responds if it just swats that down and says, look, no dice, you included Hamas, and the condition of our plan is that there's no Hamas in the future of running Gaza. You know, it could happen relatively quickly if all of the parties agree to it. And I think especially interesting is the role that Qatar, whom you mentioned before, in a way they've been Hamas's lawyer all along. The Turks have played a similar role. You know, the ceasefire and the exchange of hostages seemed to happen when the countries in the region that were Hamas's biggest advocates finally seemed to put pressure on it instead of just working to extract more concessions from the Israelis and the United States. If for some reason they really did that behind the scenes and, you know, stopped just, you know, they said, we're not going to give you sanctuary anymore in Istanbul or in Doha unless you follow through with Trump's plan, then we might see it happen. If their goal is to just prolong things and get back to a place where Hamas has freedom of action, we'd likely see that.
SPEAKER 17 :
We've only got a few minutes left here, but there's one more thing that I wanted to get your take on. We actually highlighted on this program yesterday, but Tucker Carlson has been getting some criticism for remarks he made Monday regarding Christian support for Israel. I'd like to play a clip and then get your response, if I could. Play clip one for me, please.
SPEAKER 15 :
How do you explain Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and there are a lot like that, John Bolton. I mean, I've known them all, George W. Bush, like Karl Rove. I mean, all people I know personally who I've seen, like, be seized by this brain virus, and they're not Jewish. Most of them are self-described Christians. And then the Christian Zionists who are, well, Christian Zionists. Like, what is that? And I can just say for myself, I dislike them more than anybody. You know, because like, what? Because it's Christian heresy, and I'm offended by that as a Christian.
SPEAKER 17 :
Your response to that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, first, I would note who Mr. Carlson is talking to there. It's a known Holocaust denier and racist, Nick Fuentes, someone who insulted the vice president's wife for not being white. And Vice President Vance shot right back that he sees no place for someone like that at his side. As for Mr. Carlson, what a way to lower the level of debate, saying that people who have a different opinion have a brain virus. You know, it's not hard if you try just a little to see why a well-informed Christian might be a Zionist. I can't speak for Christians. I'm not one. I happen to be Jewish. But if you or someone, whether it's on the basis of Genesis 12, 3 or something else, have a concern about the fate of the Jewish people, you say this was a people oppressed for centuries, struggling to find a place, then like many of the Christian Zionists who helped found the State of Israel by arranging the Balfour Declaration and other things, you might say this people needs a state to protect it. It's not a brain virus. It's a real humanitarian concern, and it's entirely regrettable. that we see more conspiracy theories and insults rather than serious thinking.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it's not a brain virus. It's not a theological virus either. I mean, there's a major issue of biblical interpretation that God made a covenant with the Jewish nation, and that covenant has not gone away. It's an everlasting covenant, as the Scripture describes. So I wanted to get your take on that because this certainly has created quite an uproar, as well it should have on so many fronts. Dr. David Adesnick, Vice President of Research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, thank you so much for joining us today on Washington Watch. Greatly appreciate it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, friends, that wraps up this edition of Washington Watch. Always a lot to bring your way, and always from a biblical perspective. Hope you have a fantastic evening, and we'll be back here tomorrow again on Washington Watch.
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In this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable, hosts Neil Boron, Bob Duco, and John Rush dive into the controversy surrounding the Trump ballroom at the White House. They unravel the political and media narratives around this construction, dissecting the strategic aspects of political messaging and the unconventional tactics employed by the former president. The discussion extends to media biases and their influence on public perception. The roundtable doesn't stop at unraveling the political chess game. They delve into the implications of the ballroom on U.S. dignitaries and the efficiency of White House events, exploring the potential benefits to taxpayers. The hosts skillfully challenge the narratives and highlight the pressing need for effective communication strategies to mitigate political misinterpretation.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Another edition of the National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host today, John Rush, Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason, Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan, Bob Duco Show, and Neil Boron, Buffalo, New York, Neil Boron Live. All of us together today, guys.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Miracle.
SPEAKER 06 :
All cylinders. Bob decided to come to work. This episode better be good. We got all of us here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. No excuse. I guess we'll see. OK, so speaking of this better be good. I didn't think we would have to do this two weeks in a row because I know, Neil, you had brought up last week the Trump ballroom and all of what's going on there. And I can't believe it. Even Bob and I before the podcast were talking, you know, this thing, the Democrats are not letting this thing go. And there's so much misinformation now. But I do want to start with this. And I think, Bob, I'll start with you because I think you'll relate to this as much as anyone. Neil will, too. But you'll relate to this really well. The biggest mistake, again, that our side is making in all of this is messaging. We should have been on the front side of this. We should have had a full bore ad running talking about the savings that this is actually going to be to the American public. I mean, I can go through all of the things that this actually does at the end of the day to save the taxpayers money. And yet none of that, none of that has been mentioned up to this point, which drives me nuts, Bob.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I'll tell you what, John, I get it. You know, you and I very much agree about the bad job that Republicans do in messaging. But there comes a point, honestly, when you have to look at something and go, should they really have had to be out in front of this? This is Democrats creating fake outrage about anything that they can possibly try to scandalize. And, John, it just drives me nuts. They do this all the time.
SPEAKER 04 :
They do. But since they do, why don't we hit it off right on the front side? You know what?
SPEAKER 06 :
I get that. But here's what I don't want to have happen. I don't want to make so much of a focus on here's where the Republicans mismanaged the messaging of this. They should have got out of it early on. And then before you know it, we end up giving the Democrats a pass on their absolute hypocritical dishonesty here, their fake outrage. A perfect example, Eric Swalwell. Congressman Eric Swalwell, he posts that's a litmus test for any Democrats wanting to run for president. They have to pledge to destroy, take a wrecking ball to the ballroom on day one of their presidency. So here's what I would love for some non-corrupt journalist to actually ask him. If future presidents have an obligation to tear down White House additions or renovations from previous presidents, can't you argue that's exactly what Trump's doing, tearing down FDR's East Wing? OK, that wasn't part of the original White House. And should other presidents do that, too? OK. Should the president right after James Monroe have torn down his rounded entrance with the columns? That wasn't part of the original. Or Teddy Roosevelt's West Wing in his East Terrace? Should that have been torn down? Or his swimming pool? Or Harry Truman's huge family balcony, which is named the Truman Balcony, by the way? That's been used by all presidents until now. And you can go on down the line. Richard Nixon's bowling alley, Obama's basketball court, Howard Taft's Oval Office itself. What if Trump had created a brand new office for the president? Everybody would be going crazy. That wasn't part of the original. How about Calvin Coolidge's entire third floor addition to the White House? Should all of these have been torn down by the very next president? Here's Trump giving a gift to future presidents and to the people so we don't have to put up big, ugly, temporary tents on the grounds. And he's paying for it out of his own pocket with other private donors. This is fake news. outrage from the left. And that makes my eye twitch. I understand what you're saying about the branding and the messaging for the Republicans, but it just makes my eye twitch that Democrats get away with this nonsense.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, and I can't disagree with that on the same token. And Neil, you'll probably relate to this. I do feel like there's better ways to communicate what we're doing and why. And I get everything, Bob, that you just said. I fully understand that. I'm not giving them a pass at all because they're a bunch of wackadoodles. I have no other, but a bunch of Marxists. Let's just say it. Let's say it for what it is. They're a bunch of Marxists. They continue to prove that over and over again. Yeah. Knuckleheads. Exactly. But, but on the same token, Neil, you know, you look at, and this is the stuff that just frustrates me right now. You look at what the actual cotton, because they're all talking about how, You know, it's for him and his big donors and this, that, and the other. And at the end of the day, this is a huge tax savings to the American public when it's all said and done. Because right now, all of the events that we hold were either, to Bob's point, we're adding tents. We're doing something along those lines. Security measures change. We're going off campus. All sorts of things along those lines.
SPEAKER 06 :
Dignitaries have to use porta-potties, Ron, right now when they have a state dinner.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. I mean, you look at all of that. Number one, it's embarrassing. Number two, the cost side of it is huge to do everything we're talking about. And if you go off site with the president ever, we know we already know what that amount of money adds up to. So, Neil, at the end of the day, I mean, to me, all I'm asking is we could have done a little better job on the front side talking about that side of things and not giving the I guess you could say given the Democrats some of the ammo they have.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, some of the ammo. I mean, basically they handed them the microphone. You know, I mean, the reality is that if you just start building, you start the wrecking ball situation and you just start building without any forewarning, then you've handed the microphone to the Democrats to say whatever they want about it. There was no... preliminary messaging and yeah Bob you make good points I'm not totally against what you're saying but I think as we've often said here sometimes it's possible to hold two truths in balance because people gain confidence when they feel like they understand what's happening when when there's some reason behind what's going on there's a lot of reason why this is a good move and why it's probably going to be appreciated for decades or centuries although no one on the left is ever going to admit that. So, you know, all of it good in that sense, but not the fact that the Democrats are able to use this messaging the way that they are. I mean, they literally have taken a wrecking ball to the idea of the project because we handed them the microphone. And I don't think it's smart. Colin Levy, by the way, in the Wall Street Journal wrote an op-ed piece, said we now live in a democracy in which the president is with neither public notice nor permission demolished part of the white house and no one tried to stop him. The white house isn't private property. It is quaintly and truly the people's house paid for by taxpayers and enduring over centuries. Well, some of what he's saying there is true, but if you get ahead of that by explaining what's going on and why it's necessary and how the taxpayers are going to benefit and for what reason this is happening, whether people agree with you or not, you don't need their permission. at least throw it out there on the front end. And I think that is a mistake that Republicans made on this one or conservatives made. Yeah. Neil, you know what, though?
SPEAKER 06 :
There is... Let me just devil's advocate for a moment. It is possible. It is possible that Trump... And the Republicans, but especially led by Trump, deliberately didn't want to get out in front of this and deliberately didn't want to front sell the need for this, but instead deliberately wanted to hand the microphone to the Democrats and see if they make an issue out of this because they know they'd be able to come back and expose the Democrats for being petty and say, well, then why didn't we have this attitude about previous presidents that make renovations to the White House? Presidents do that all the time. I mean, even the liberal left-wing Washington Post, their editorial board this week wrote a piece complimenting Trump for doing this and criticizing the Democrats. And they themselves pointed out this is something needed to be done. You shouldn't be having dignitaries using – porta-potties, and previous presidents do stuff like this all the time. Trump isn't doing anything wrong. If anything else, he's doing something that's needed. This is the editorial board of the Washington Post that just said this. Part of me thinks that Trump even told people, no, no, no, no, let's troll the Democrats. Let's egg them on to see if we can get them to make an issue out of this, because then we can counterplay, look how stupid and petty the Democrats are being about something that is smart and necessary and good to be done. So I Well, I think it's possible that Trump deliberately did not want to get in front of this to make it like he was doing some big thing that he had to get the approval of the American public for. One thing really quick.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go ahead, Neil.
SPEAKER 05 :
I was just going to say, either he plays chess four moves ahead of the opponent, which is probably true, or we'll find out at the midterm election because – The American people need to have some level of confidence that they matter, like that, that it matters that they understand what's going on in our country and that things aren't just happening. You know, in other words, the mainstream media and the Democrats have painted him as the power broker, the dictator, you know, this guy who comes in and he's accountable to no one, whatever happened to the, you know. balance of power in Washington, D.C., blah, blah, blah. If that's what they feel when they go to the polls, then it could cost them in the midterm elections.
SPEAKER 06 :
Obama didn't ask our permission to build a full-size basketball court. He didn't ask our permission for that.
SPEAKER 05 :
But he had the mainstream media cheering him on. It didn't matter what he did. This is the exact opposite scenario.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let's expose the Democrats for their hypocrisy.
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Sounds good, guys. I appreciate it. Yes, please support all of our sponsors. We appreciate that greatly. And we'll kind of wrap things up here with the whole Trump ballroom. I think for me, Bob, the biggest thing that I want to encourage, at least our listeners and folks that might be having discussions, maybe Well, I don't know. Could be with your coworker, could be with a family member, could be neighbor, whatever. I mean, I think the thing to really make sure that you tell those those Democrat friends of yours is a reminder that, number one, he's not doing anything that hasn't been done before. Number two, this was a much needed expansion. that has been really probably needed several decades ago finally getting done now. The amount of dollars that are spent to hold events and do things off-site. On top of that, we are supposed to be the leading nation in the world to actually have, you know, and Bob, your point earlier, dignitaries using porta-potties is absolutely embarrassing for me as an American that we're doing that. At the end of the day, yes, this is needed. It's being paid for, by the way, with private donations. Yes, there'll probably be still some cost to the taxpayer when it's all said and done. But whatever that cost is, it's going to be absorbed by the savings over the next decades. And by the way, it could be 100 years, depending on how long the country tarries that this thing stands. At the end of the day, Bob, we're going to get more than enough use out of it. It'll more than pay for itself when it's all said
SPEAKER 06 :
And can I just say one more thing about this, too? The East Wing, this is not part of the original White House.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it is not.
SPEAKER 06 :
This was built in the 1940s. That's right. There was no East Wing before the 1940s. That's right. This was added by FDR, and the East Wing was still built 80 years ago, and it needs to be rebuilt. So Trump isn't getting rid of the West Wing. He's renovating the West Wing. He's rebuilding the East Wing. He's rebuilding the East Wing. in a renovated way and making it bigger than it was before so that it can house a ballroom so dignitaries don't need to use porta-potties. And he's paying for it out of his pocket.
SPEAKER 04 :
Give me a break. And I'm guessing that, you know, one of the other things that might be involved here, maybe why the price tag has changed, which we don't know because these are the things they won't tell anybody. You know, are the bunkers being expanded? Is there more things being done security measure wise with some of this, Bob? And again, some of that you cannot make public. So bottom line is there's probably things there that we don't need to know. And no American does, by the way, because that that information gets leaked out to others. But at the end of the day, I'm guessing it's not just a ballroom, Bob.
SPEAKER 06 :
It probably is not. And there probably are national security things that they can't reveal. And these Democrats, at least some of them, they know this.
SPEAKER 04 :
They know that. That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, you know, whatever. This is a gift. By the way, Trump very likely will not even be able to use this ballroom for himself. He might, but if he doesn't get it done in time, this is a gift for future presidents, for the American people, for dignitaries around the world. And he pays for it out of his pocket with some other private donors.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, maybe during his third presidency, he will.
SPEAKER 06 :
He actually ended the trolling of that, which is a shame. I wish he wouldn't have done this because he has been trolling the media and the Democrats by tossing. I don't know. Let me get some Trump 2028 hats here and toss into people in the Oval Office. OK, he is great at trolling. But reporter reporters asked him again, what about third term? He goes, you know, I'm not allowed to run. OK, it's like, oh, not going to happen. I shoot. I wish he would have. I wish he would have kept on trolling them.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I don't know what you just said reminded me of this, but I got to say this. You know, the left, the libs love to paint whatever picture they want to paint. And usually it's not an accurate one. Here's an example. We heard for a period of time from a lot of people saying, oh, look, this is Trump. He says it's his main priority. And, you know, we've got we've got the government shut down right now. And this isn't this is his main priority is he's building this gilded ballroom. Well, here's the exact transaction or, you know, what transpired. A reporter asked Caroline Levitt, in addition to the ballroom and the Rose Garden patio, is the president looking at any other renovations or significant kinds of projects here at the White House? Honestly, maybe hinting at the question of, you know, bunkers and things that are necessary for security. But anyway, that was the question. Caroline Levitt's response. Not to my knowledge. No, he's a builder at heart, clearly. And so his heart and his mind is always churning about how to improve things here on the White House grounds. But at this moment in time, of course, the ballroom is really the president's main priority. Yeah, he's not looking at fixing the Rose Garden or repairing the hoops on the basketball court that Obama put in. This project is his main priority. Not main priority for all, you know, defense issues and other things addressed or, you know, affecting our nation. I just think it's unbelievable how the mainstream media takes these things and runs with them as though it's the gospel truth.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, Neil, can I tell you, even PolitiFact, liberal left-wing PolitiFact, fact-checked this from Hakeem Jeffries, from Chuck Schumer, from the Democrats in general about Caroline Leavitt supposedly saying this is his number one priority. Even PolitiFact said this is a false claim. This is misleading. She was asked specifically in the context of renovations at the White House, and her answer was this is his top priority of the renovations at the White House. So even PolitiFact is calling out the Democrats for this level of dishonesty.
SPEAKER 04 :
It says something right there. All right. Moving into speaking of, I don't know if you want to call this dishonest. Well, it is the whole government shutdown, what the Democrats are doing. They're being very dishonest on their side, claiming it's our side that's actually causing the shutdown. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There's now, of course, you know, snap benefits and some things along those lines could potentially end. I've seen some different things that listeners have sent me. I've not looked this stuff up myself, but just things that have come my way on supposedly. And again, I, Whether these are conspiratorial or not, I don't know. Supposedly, potentially some retaliation from SNAP benefit users on folks leaving the grocery store where they may be loaded up with their groceries. The SNAP benefits, of course, may end for some. And at that point in time, they're supposedly again, I don't know if this is true or not, but I think this is one of those things to be very. careful of if in fact this does happen supposedly there's a movement where snap benefit folk will be in parking lots basically trying to abscond your groceries as you leave the grocery store guys bob i'll let you talk first i uh oh boy i hate to say it but with left wingers i wouldn't be a bit surprised i wouldn't either because left part of the left-wing ideology is i'm entitled to whatever someone oh i bob i've seen some of them i've seen some of videos where some of these ladies especially because typically it's not always women that are on snap but there's a lot of women with babies on snap in fact i think that's the wake-up call for americans is 40 million americans on programs along those lines which is absolutely by the way ridiculous i'll get that we're meant to be temporary Yeah, they were meant to be temporary. You might get into more of that here in the second half. But right now, you know, Bob, these are people that frankly shouldn't be on it, in my opinion. In a lot of cases, we can get into the details of that a little later. But there are some of these people literally that are on camera, literally, and I don't think they're joking when they say this. It is your job as a taxpayer to feed my kids. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a video saying that in the last few days.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is a sick Marxist mentality that people have. But this is a lot of what the left pushes, okay? It's this kind of resentment, envy kind of politics of look to somebody who has something that you don't and see that as injustice.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Economic injustice, social injustice, and therefore you have a right to take what they have. We do this with illegal immigration. Hey, you have a right to take land in this country. Go ahead and come here illegally. Take what you want. Go ahead and take whatever benefits you want. This is a left-wing mentality. And so the SNAP program, suddenly who's the boogeyman? the person who's actually going to work, paying their bills, buying groceries, which, by the way, pays for the salaries of the people that work in the grocery store where some of these people are just too lazy to go get a job in the first place. I'm not saying everybody, but a lot of people are just too lazy to go get a job. They don't want to, and so they choose to live off the government because we make it easy. We enable laziness in this country.
SPEAKER 04 :
We do. We do. Well, and, Neil, really quick, there's a sense of entitlement, as I just said a moment ago, where there's some of these people out saying, You as a taxpayer owe it to me to feed my kids. And I guess the way I read scripture, Neil, and you're a former pastor, that's not the way I've ever read it. In fact, Timothy is really big on making sure that you work hard, that you're a good seasoned worker, you're worthy of being hired, and by the way, that you're able to feed your family because if not, you're the worst of sinners.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you read my mind. I don't know where you came up with that because I was sitting here thinking, you know, as much as this creates an obstacle and nobody wants to see anyone starve to death or go hungry. But in the meantime, while this all gets worked out, and by the way, the Democrats are just obstructing on this whole thing. That's right. They could say tomorrow, let's go ahead and deal with this issue at a future time and the government would be back in business. Snap checks would be sent out. The whole thing would happen while they figure out long term what this decision is going to be. But a lot of the policies that are in place right now are due to expire because they were COVID era policies. And so some of these benefits were hyped up during the COVID thing. pumped up to astronomical proportions and they're about to go back to normal levels and people are saying the republicans are stealing food off the plate of you know hungry deserving people well it's not true anyway the church has a tremendous opportunity to step up to the plate right now and be the church look around your community see who's hurting and make a difference bring light into their darkness that's the gospel in action and i think christians ought to be looking at this licking our chops saying this is a wonderful opportunity for us to build the kingdom of God. And let's get busy. Let's do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. And guys, again, thank you so much. And yes, please support those sponsors that make this happen on a regular basis. All right, back to SNAP. And again, I do want to let everybody know, and again, I cannot verify whether some of what the murmuring about retaliation, if SNAP benefits actually do and what's actually going to happen along those lines. Guys, I have no idea. I talk about this on several of my radio programs. which is you always have to be diligent in what you're doing. Please be aware. Have your head on a swivel. The last thing you want to have is some sort of an altercation out in a parking lot. Will some of these grocery stores be adding some different security measures and things along those lines to help with some of this stuff? Honestly, guys, I don't have any idea, but I do know this. For all of our listeners that are out there, the best thing to do is be vigilant and I would also probably tell you to shop maybe at off times where you may not even encounter some of these individuals, if in fact that's the case. Some of you that have the ability where you know there's more of that type of a shopper around than others, maybe go find the stores that... you know, may not have those shoppers there. And again, I don't know much about that world. I don't do a lot of grocery shopping anymore. Guys, I hate to say that that's not really in my wheelhouse. So I can't tell you the last time I actually was at a grocery store. I know that sounds really bad, but I just, I don't do any of that anymore. So I know that sounds really bad, but I don't. Yeah, I'm really disconnected on the grocery store end of things. So, and I am, I'll be the first to admit that my wife does all that. And I don't, I don't do anything along those lines. All right, guys, that's it for this first half of the National Crawford Roundtable. Appreciate you all listening. Second half is next.
SPEAKER 02 :
This is a Crawford Media Group production.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back. Second half, National Crawford Roundtable. Myself, John Rush, Denver, Colorado. My show, Rush to Reason. Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan. Bob Duco's show, Neil Boron, Buffalo, New York. Neil Boron Live. And just to kind of recap and finish up the whole snap thing. And Neil, I want to go back to you on this because... I don't know, maybe it's pride on my end. I mean, I've been in some really rough times in my life. I mean, as a business owner, there are times where, and Bob, I'm sure, can relate to this, but there are times where you don't know if there's another meal coming. You don't know if there's another dollar coming in in the business. I've been in those situations. I know what it's like to struggle. I know what it's like to not have a pot to you-know-what in. I mean, at the end of the day, I've been in those situations. I will also say this, though. In the worst of times... I never went to anyone, government included, for any kind of a handout. I figured out how to work harder and do whatever it took to make ends meet, do whatever you needed to do, be more resourceful, learn from those mistakes, don't let them happen again. Those are the sorts of things that I learned. And Neil, to me, we've made this whole snap end of things. 40 million Americans, it's far too easy to not have to go out and work.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and just handing food out to people really doesn't solve any long-term problems. And somebody might think I'm, you know, really a mean guy for saying that kind of thing. But the Bible says if you don't work, you shouldn't eat. I mean, the principle of working to be able to meet your physical needs and your earthly needs makes sense. It's a biblical thing. But ultimately, our supply comes from God. the word of God says that the righteous have never been forsaken, nor has God's seed ever begged for bread. God supplies all of our needs according to his riches and glory in Christ Jesus. So the church needs to be all about teaching people that ultimately our supply comes from God and from the people of God, that we as believers can get on board and do what Matthew 25 talks about. You know, when Jesus is saying, look at, you know, when you fed me, when you clothed me, you were doing those things for me. And why? Because this is the call of God on the people of God to represent the kingdom of God. So I just think, by and large, we really need to be sensitive during difficult times where anyone might be struggling to understand that's an opportunity for ministry. And not that we put a mark on them and say, well, oh, look, that person over there is struggling. So I'm going to go whack him over the head with the Bible and try to lead him to Jesus. No, that we would simply love them. and be there for them and meet their needs and teach them what it looks like to follow Jesus. Because when we can start telling stories about the lack that we've experienced in our lives and how God showed up to meet it in our lives, we give them hope. And hope deferred makes the heart sick. The bottom line is we need to be able to offer people hope. That hope is ultimately found in Jesus and we can demonstrate it in real time by loving them and caring for their needs. And we need to agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I agree. And again, it is an opportunity. Neil, I appreciate you saying that it very much is. I also feel like it's an opportunity where maybe maybe I'll just say it here. If you're on assistance, you need to take a really hard look in the mirror and say, why am I doing this? Why am I relying on someone else? to meet my needs. And no, it is not anybody else's obligation to meet your needs. This is your obligation to meet your needs. And I think sometimes, Bob, people need to take a really hard look in the mirror and say, what am I doing here?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what? They absolutely do. And it doesn't mean that we're cold-hearted.
SPEAKER 03 :
No. Opposite, Bob, because the joy of actually doing things for yourself and being able to get ahead in life far outweighs being dependent on someone else. That's right. That's
SPEAKER 06 :
we are to care for widows and orphans. The idea is that people who actually genuinely really are not able to care for themselves, of course we care for them. But the truth is, and this is because of a lot of the liberal left-wing progressive Marxist ideology today, that you're entitled to something somebody else has and you don't have to work for it. And so, therefore, people are violating 2 Thessalonians 3.10, okay? If a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat. Well, no, it's like, stay home, sit on your mom's couch, play video games, and collect free money from the government. John, look, I've owned businesses in the past. You know, as a businessman, I know what it's like to struggle to make payroll. I know what it's like to be the last one paid. Right. in a company and sometimes not get paid at all. And I know what it's like to really struggle and not know where my next meal is coming from. So I get the financial devastation that people experience sometimes. And you know what I've always done? Anytime I find myself in financial difficulty, John, I work harder. I try harder. I take on an extra job if I have to. I find extra ways to raise money. And I don't mind saying, OK, that, you know, you can say, oh, Bob, that's easier for you as a white man. Hold on. Did you know you guys might not even know this. Did you know that I'm actually one eighth Cherokee Indian?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I did not.
SPEAKER 06 :
I actually am.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're related to Elizabeth Warren.
SPEAKER 06 :
Me and Elizabeth Warren, that's right. Elizabeth Warren and I are related. But I actually really am. My grandmother from Arizona, she's dead now, but my grandmother on my mother's side was one-half Cherokee. My mom was one-quarter Cherokee. I'm one-eighth Cherokee. To be a member of Cherokee Nation, you need to be one-sixteenth Cherokee. So actually, I am a minority Cherokee. Technically, I – by the way, can I just say I do have a say. It should be the Washington Redskins. And no, I'm not offended. OK? But anyway. But I could have been on government programs this whole time. I mean my entire life I could have milked government programs. You know the amount of money that I've taken from claiming minority status in America from the government? Zero. Zero. Not one single dime. You know why? Because I'm able-bodied, able to work, and it's my responsibility to go out and make a living. And if I struggle financially, it's my responsibility to go out and get a second job, third job. Whatever I need to do, the opportunity is there. And that's a biblical principle. Work ethic comes from Scripture. It really does. And so that's what my attitude is on this. So I'm not being cold-hearted to people. I have been there. I know what it's like to be in poverty. yep and the answer is not to say well then i'm entitled to what my neighbor has yeah when my kids were little guys there was a lot of pancakes for dinner if you know what i mean because they're cheap and easy and we didn't have any other money so that's what you fed the kids back then bob absolutely that's i look i i get it we've done that bologna bologna sandwiches yep okay yep uh we i mean i'm You did what you had to. One of these days, John, you and I are going to have to share war stories because I bet you've got some pretty bad ones. I got some pretty bad ones.
SPEAKER 04 :
I do. And again, I'm by no means trying to outdo anybody or put ourselves on a pedestal or anything. I'm just letting people understand that, yes, I know what it's like to be in need. I know what it's like. to empty every bank account, Bob, to make payroll and wondering, is any of that money going to come back at the end of the day so you can actually feed yourself? Yes, I know what those things are like. On the same token, I guess I was raised in such a way to where I didn't want to live, by the way, this is me, I didn't want to live by the golden rule, which is the guy with the gold rules. When you start taking handouts from other people, you no longer control your life, they do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that is true if you're borrowing money from your family, from your co-worker, taking an advance from your boss. I mean, guys, I don't care how you look at it. And that's different, by the way, I believe, than borrowing money that you've agreed with set terms to pay back. That's a different scenario than actually accepting, quote unquote, a handout. With that handout, there's always strings attached. And in the Marxist movement, there are huge strings attached because they want to control your life. That's why they offer it. Bob, the one thing that you can take control over is the life of a newborn baby.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, we really can. It's like, well, what can I do? You know, all these abortions happening in America. There is actually something you can do. You can pay for ultrasound images for women to see a picture of their baby. Because when a mom sees a picture of her baby, She chooses life almost all the time. By the way, very often accepts Jesus Christ as Savior. This happens in pro-life centers all across the country. So who's supplying the ultrasound images? A company called Preborn. You folks heard about Preborn for years, okay? They're all over the country. And what they do is place... they place ultrasound machines in these pro-life centers and they operate them. Takes money though, folks. They don't run for free, okay? $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, to save one baby's life. So we're asking everybody in the audience right now, maybe you've given a pre-born already, maybe you've given multiple times, would you prayerfully consider giving again today? Just make the decision to say, yep, I'm going to save X number of babies' lives today. You really are. So you give them a call at pre-born, 833-850-BABY. They answer the phones 24-7. So 833-850-BABY. And you take $28 times fill in the blank. $28 stops one abortion. How many abortions will you stop? $28 times fill in the blank. Say, here's what I want to give. And don't forget, 100%, everything you give goes to fund ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That's all covered by private donors. So 833-850-BABY, call right now. Or you can give online at CrawfordMediaGroup.net and just click on Preborn. And while you're at CrawfordMediaGroup.net, also click on SunPowerLED, Neil.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right, guys, moving along here. And this one is, you know, this topic that we need to cover. We're heading into the, you know, we record on Wednesday mornings for those of you that may not know this. So most of you will be able to listen to this prior to Halloween, which is just a couple of days away. And so, Neil, I want to start with you. What is the proper response as a Christian to Halloween?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think we should sit in our basements, turn off all the lights and pray that nobody waxes our windows.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what we did when I was a kid. No, you know, this, this topic drives me crazy, John, because it has roots in the whole legalism question. And what I mean by that is I have no problem. If somebody's got a real issue with the idea that You know, living and breathing on October 31st makes you a follower of the devil, and they just don't want any part of anything that looks like Halloween. OK, fine. Follow the conscience that God has given you on that. Romans 14 says, Be fully convinced in your own mind. Why? Because each one of us will give an account of ourselves to God. But here's the thing. I don't think any Christian should be, quote, celebrating Halloween if that means celebrating the devil, celebrating witchcraft, you know, whatever. However, October 31st is the day that the Lord has made, and we're to rejoice and be glad in it. God didn't create 364 days a year. He created 365. He didn't say go and preach the gospel most of the year except on October 31st. We're to be Christians every single day of the year. And so what should Christians do on Halloween? Everything that we were designed to do on every other day of the year. We should be making disciples in whatever form that looks. So if God lays it on your heart to invite people over to your house to have a party and give kids candy or something, whatever your conscience allows in that sense, do it as unto the Lord and know that you're fulfilling the mandate of the kingdom, which is to tell others about the good news of the gospel. And here's the rub. that when you say you're doing anything on October 31st, people go, oh, that's it. You're celebrating Halloween. You're worshiping the devil. No, I'm not. And Bob, it's, I don't know what the phrase is, if there even is a phrase, but you often talk about trying to hold two truths in tension. You know, the bottom line is evil exists in the world and we should never celebrate it, never promote evil. But we're to bring light into darkness and we have a mandate to bring light into darkness. October 31st is a very dark day. As Christians, we need to shine the light that day And those are two truths that ought to hold each other in tension. So, yeah, anyway, that's my take on it. I've got a lot more to say, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's all right. Bob, your thoughts.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, look, I'm very much with Neil on this. Now, I can tell you, in our family and raising our kids, we never celebrated Halloween. We never dressed our kids up and had them go out trick-or-treating. However, I don't— fault or take a pharisaical attitude toward families that do. I've had a lot of callers tell me over the years that they see it as a witnessing opportunity. They dress their kids up as Bible characters. They exchange candy for biblical tracts that they hand back to the families. So I think that's great. I don't have anything against that. It's just for me and my house, we've just decided we don't want to uh, celebrate Halloween and join the party, if you will, by having our kids dress up, even though we wouldn't have them dress up as ghouls and demons, but still, uh, by and large, Halloween culturally today is one big celebration of evil and death. And so in that regard, I don't think it's healthy. I don't like walking in the retail stores and seeing the, the ghoulish evil imagery. And certainly some of the neighborhood, uh, decorations are getting over the top. I got a neighbor in my subdivision that has these bloodied, severed heads hanging on hooks all over the yard. And so there comes a point where it's like, okay, it's a celebration of evil, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go hide in the basement. So you know what we do? We sit out on the front porch. We watch the kids come by. We have a big, nice thing of candy, and we give them candies that come along, and we let them see that, hey, we're fun, normal people, but we didn't dress up our kids and send them out around the neighborhood themselves. And that's how we've tended to handle this. And I don't mind using it as a little bit of a teaching tool for our kids when they were little. We were like, you know, we're not going to be doing everything that all of our friends are always doing. Sometimes we do need to separate ourselves from the world. And so we're not going to join the party by dressing up along with everybody, but we're going to be friendly when they come to our door and give them candy and smile. And so that's kind of how I tend to look at it. All I will say, though, to people is that if you're going to pass out Bible tracts to the kids when they come, make sure that the Bible tract is rubber band attached to a nice big candy bar. Because if you just toss them both in loose when they dump everything out, they're not going to know that that tract was accompanied by a candy bar. They're going to think that some Christian didn't give me candy and all they did was wanted to tell me about their religion. And so make sure it's attached to a candy bar so that they know that we are being decent about it. That's my only piece of advice.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and for those of you that think, okay, John, what's your opinion? You know, I'm probably a combination of you two. Again, grew up in a, you know, you guys all know, very legalistic, you know, end of things. And I still see a lot of that, to Neil's point, you know, that are out and even posting on social media. I saw one the other day that, you know, if your church does anything to do with Halloween, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh, jeez.
SPEAKER 06 :
Harvest parties can't even do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's like, you know, can't get drunk on treats and so on. It's like, okay, you know, again, I guess I'm more of a, you know, you do you. I'm not going to judge another Christian for what they do. I mean, I personally, not a fan of the day. I don't dress up. We don't do anything along those lines. I'm fortunate to have a home whereby no one ever comes by because they'll never walk the distance it takes to actually get to the front door. So at the end of the day, I don't even have to participate in that and the things, guys. I'm very fortunate as far as all of that goes. Again, I'm removed from some of that in that regard and no my wife and i will not go you know seek out you know halloween parties and do things along those lines again for me it's just and it's not because the legalist side neil it's it's it's not that resurfacing by any means it's just for me not a big deal for me there's other things i'd rather go do i just i don't know just first i don't even watch scary movies anymore i guess i've even moved beyond that you know i don't watch horror films haven't for probably three or four decades now, just not something that I do. And again, it's, it's not because I feel like somehow some demons going to, you know, affect me by doing so. No, it's just, it's just not my thing. You know, it's just not something that brings me joy. And for me, if it doesn't bring joy, why would I do it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And to each his own and that's your decision to make and good for you. Like if that's what is on your heart, then I say, pursue it with gusto. But again, you know what's interesting and i gotta say this carefully because i don't mean to throw rocks at anybody i've been the world's biggest legalist and i've been the world's biggest sinner and everything in between but paul talking to the philippians i think it's in philippians 3 says you know that we have a righteousness that is not my own a righteousness comes not from the law but from faith in jesus christ the righteousness that comes from god on the basis of faith philippians 3 9 that's where it is and you know the bottom line is that uh how we behave ultimately matters especially with consequences here on earth if you you know break the speed limit you should get a speeding ticket but But the point is that our righteousness ultimately comes from God. And so I think that, you know, we don't score extra brownie points by locking ourselves in the basement and proving to our neighbors how holy we are. Because guess what? We're not holy. Jesus is holy. We still struggle with sin even after coming to faith in Christ. And we still need his grace every single day. His forgiveness is secure to Calvary. But, you know, the grace that saved us is the grace we need to sanctify us. And we need to thank God it's available to us every day. And let me say, you know, one other thing about it, because there's an incredible passage in Matthew. Where is it? Matthew chapter 27. And I want to read for you verses 51 to 53, because people say, oh, we should avoid any appearance of evil and blah, blah, blah. OK, when in verse 50, Jesus cried out again in a loud voice and gave up his spirit. This is the moment Jesus died. at that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom the earth shook the rocks split and the tombs broke open the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life they came out of the tombs after jesus's resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people the next verse is where the centurion says truly this was the son of god like something was going on I challenge any youth pastor listening right now to act this out on the front lawn of the church on Halloween night. And when somebody says, what are you doing? And they try to complain about the fact that you're glorifying evil or something, just say, this is straight out of scripture. This is what happened the moment Jesus died. And it shows not only the power of the death of Jesus, but ultimately the power of the resurrection, because we know what happened three days later. So, you know, what a tremendous opportunity to talk about You might scare the jeepers out of some of the people living in the community.
SPEAKER 06 :
You've got a Night of the Living Dead thing going on here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, this is straight out of Scripture. Yeah, no, you're right.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you're right, Neil. You're right.
SPEAKER 05 :
People were terrified when that was going on. Of course. And who orchestrated that? God orchestrated that. So that's kind of interesting.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And again, one of these days we'll have to do a show on the whole occult end of things and so on. And it'd be probably one of those kind of forever shows, guys, that we could do. And one of the things we touch on that periodically, I think there's a lot of, and this is my opinion, a lot of misconception around what can actually happen, what the Lord would allow to happen, I guess you could say. I also believe, Neil, that was a one-off event. I don't think that happens any longer. It hasn't happened since, frankly. That's not one of those things that the Lord is letting those sorts of things happen on a daily basis. I don't believe in ghosts, to be honest with you. That's a whole other conversation we could have at some point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ghosts and haunted houses is a whole discussion we could have, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we can get into that. I know people think that I'm weird along those lines, and I am. I'll be the first to admit, yeah, I'm weird on some things. I have my own reasons, though, as to why You know, I don't believe in some of that stuff. And maybe, Bob, for me, because of that, Halloween, it just doesn't do anything for me. As I said a little bit ago, it's not that it brings sadness to me. It doesn't bring any joy. And by the way, for those listening, you may not know this. It's the second highest spent, quote unquote, it's not a holiday, but it's the second highest event after Christmas people spend money on, Bob.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I know. They do spend a lot. But, you know, this is also the season when everybody's really into ghosts and haunted houses and whatever. We just got to remember, okay, Satan and his demons, they're deceivers. They masquerade as a bunch of different things.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, you know, I mean, I grew up in what would be described as a quote-unquote haunted house. I used to see stuff that you would see in movies all the time growing up. And even into my teen years, I've seen people appear and disappear and things levitate. The kind of stuff you see in movies, right? I look back on this now and I realize that images, some ghostly image of some guy in a Civil War uniform, that's not the spirit of the guy that died. What is this, clothing? Have an eternal soul that happened? What is there, some ghost wardrobe closet that they go into to get their clothes? It was, well, maybe he died in that. Well, if ghosts are spirits of people and they're wearing what they died in, then most people should be wearing hospital gowns and ghostly images. Or what about naked people that died in the bathtub? You know, you don't see the... So no, these are demons that are masquerading as ghosts to try to trick people into believing that the Bible's wrong about what happens to your spirit when you die. Paul makes it clear there's one of two places. I'd rather be in the body I'd rather be with the Lord instead of in the body, but I choose to be in the body instead of with the Lord. There's two places you can go. That's it. There's not a third option. Jesus didn't say to the thief on the cross, today I tell you, you will be rattling chains in a Roman castle. No. You're one of two places you're going to go. The devil just wants to convince people Scripture is wrong about what happens to your spirit when you die.
SPEAKER 04 :
Speaking of Scripture and all of that and the fact that we believe life begins at conception, Bob, talk to us about pre-born.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we really do believe life begins at conception. It's a mathematical fact. It's a scientific fact. It's a medical fact. And by the way, it's scripturally true as well. So I would argue as Christians, we do have a responsibility to try to save babies' lives if we can. And you're like, well, I'm one person. What can I do? Here's what you can do. You can pay for ultrasound images so that moms will choose life when they see that image of their baby. This is what Preborn does all over the country in pro-life centers. We need you folks to pay Preborn so that they can show these ultrasound images more and more. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to save one baby's life, to change one mom's mind.
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Yeah, and you'll see some pretty incredible stuff. When you click on that site, there's all kinds of information about what photobiomodulation is. But you can also track down further information about how this actually affects human beings. Jose is a young guy that had blindness. He was blind because of a detached retina and what's called diabetic retinopathy. But after two days, two days of using light therapy for treatment from SunPower LED, the cloudiness in his eyes decreased. There's a video on that website of Jose riding around on his motorcycle. It's incredible. Caleb was a guy that put a pickaxe into his ankle by accident. Doctors told him it was gonna be six to nine months before he could ever walk again. He was walking in four weeks and didn't need any pain medication. How's that possible? Well, SunPower LED is, light therapy. It's photobiomodulation. It uses red and near-infrared light from the light spectrum to penetrate our bodies and reduce pain and swelling and promote healing. And I encourage you to find out what it can offer you. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on SunPowerLED, use the promo code ROUNDTABLE10, and you'll save 10% just because you're a listener to the National Crawford Roundtable. Again, it's CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on SunPowerLED.
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In this episode of Sekulow, host Logan Sekulow delves into the breaking news of Republicans introducing a funding bill for SNAP and air traffic control amidst a government shutdown. With guest insights from Mark Kelly of the Washington D.C. office, gain a deep understanding of the implications for SNAP funding and why air traffic control funding is critical as travel season approaches. Explore how these moves could influence political dynamics in Washington. Discover the bipartisan efforts needed and the potential for these essential services to bridge political divides.
SPEAKER 10 :
We got breaking news once again. Republicans are now pushing the Democrats with a new SNAP and air traffic control funding bill.
SPEAKER 12 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome to Sekulow. As I said, phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. Flying solo here today, so I want to hear from you. I want you to call in again at 1-800-684-3110. We are going to have some special guests joining us. Packed first half hour with guests. Second half hour. open phones okay we're gonna take a lot of calls on that second half hour and you can give me a call next up though i'm mark kelly from our washington dc office head of government affairs there in dc you heard him last week with his kind of premiere appearance here on the show he's gonna be back on and then later on my dad jay seculo is gonna be joining us as we continue our discussion it's gonna be a little more information about that fbi arctic frost probe we're gonna have a little more information breaking that down but the news of the day every time there seems to be a new crack in the shutdown and today is no different. In today's, you actually have Republicans taking on a plan, which I'm very much in favor of, saying, you know what? Democrats, if you're not willing to budge, if we're not going to actually get to the table in any of this, there is one thing that we can hopefully agree on, and only one of them has agreed on it so far, and that's Peter Welch in Vermont, but hopefully other people will come on and say they will vote for this. He's co-sponsored the bill. It is a new bill that says we are going from, it is from Josh Hawley, co-sponsored by James Lankford, Murkowski, Collins, Marsha Blackburn here in Tennessee, who's going to be on the show tomorrow, so you're not going to miss that. I'm sure we'll talk to her about this. Bernie Moreno in Ohio, Kevin Kramer, Bill Cassidy, Katie Britt from Alabama, and a few others, John Corwin and John Husted. That is the main focus of this bill. get SNAP funding at least temporarily back going. What that is is food aid programs, the old food stamp program, if you will. This will keep SNAP funded. Of course, it's going to expire the day after tomorrow on Saturday is supposed to be the end of the SNAP funding. This would keep SNAP funded at least for another period of time, not indefinitely, but I believe another month. So it would keep it going for another month. And hopefully as we come to an end of the shutdown. This could happen between now and then. I think this is very much needed. There's another bill coming from Ted Cruz that essentially says a similar wording, but this is specifically for air traffic controllers. Obviously, we want to stay safe in the air. I'm flying next week. I'm sure a lot of people are. A lot of people are going to be traveling over the next handful of months. We're heading towards probably the busiest travel season of the year. We're seeing what's happening as the FAA is having a lot of issues where I think it's a tripling amount of air traffic control issues that they have had in the past where that's mostly due to staffing because people are expected to come and do their jobs even without being paid and not being paid for a significant amount of time. This will allow both the funding to SNAP and the funding to the FAA or to the air traffic controllers. I would love to hear from you. Are you in favor of this? I very much am in favor of this. I think that food programs, no one should be going hungry in this country. And I understand that may not be always the most conservative Republican point of view, but as a Christian, as someone who believes in this country also, believes that there should be some funding for certain things, I think keeping people fed, I don't have a problem with that. And if we have really some of the leading, I'd say the leading dozen Republicans, including people like Marsha Blackburn and Katie Britt on this list, James Lankford, these are people who you probably agree with. And I want to know, do you agree with this? This should get done, that the Democrats, of anything they could be bipartisan on, this is the time to do it. And of course, air traffic controllers. Now, that may be a little bit different. But again, it's not like these are the most high paid positions. These are people who are in need. And I'm curious your thoughts. Give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. I have these bills right here. We can go through them and walk through them as well. We're going to be joined next up, though, by Mark Kelly in our Washington, D.C. studio. He is, again, head of our government affairs, a new addition to the ACLJ team. And he can really walk you through what all of this means and what it could mean for the future. and those who need financial assistance. Look, I know a lot of you watch this show even, so hopefully we'll get you some information that you need, and hopefully this is at least a step in the right direction. But you know what? Some of you may disagree. Let me know what you think at 1-800-684-3110. Of course, if you can, check out the work of the ACLJ at aclj.org right now. That's at aclj.org. So many incredible free resources there. Everything, none of it's behind a paywall. All of it's available to you right now. Go to aclj.org today. Welcome back to Secular. I did want to restate this and also give you a little context. We bring in Mark Kelly out of Washington, D.C., of our new team members here at the ACLJ. You heard him last week. He's back on the show today. But to give you a little setup, I want you to hear what's happening and how CNN is even talking about this. Because right now, the Republicans, Josh Hawley and a group of others said, you know, it's time at least for people to understand why we need to be keeping funding to snap. Of course, that is food assistance. And he said, surely it's not hard to understand why SNAP is so essential to so many. The American economy has not been kind to working people in recent years. So this would, this new bill, which is sponsored by probably 10 to 12 of the leading Republicans, the ones you know the names of, saying, you know what? If we can't agree on anything, can we at least agree to keep SNAP? paid for and then ted cruz came in and said how about while we're at it here's another bill that says let's also keep the faa tsa or whatever it needs to be air traffic controllers people who are protecting our skies uh when we're about to head into the busiest travel season of the year i know many of us will be flying over the next two months uh maybe we need to be funding them as well to make sure we're keeping our skies safe so it doesn't be controversial let's hear from cnn and then i'm going to give you a little context and mark will go to you for reaction
SPEAKER 11 :
It hasn't. If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a look here, the shift in net popularity versus pre-shutdown. When we're looking at the Republican Party overall, that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin of error, but clearly it hasn't dropped. Come over to this side of the screen. Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress. It's actually up five points since pre-shutdown. So what we're seeing here is the Republican brand in Congress has actually improved somewhat compared to when we were pretty shut down, despite the fact that Republicans control. And that's the math that John Thune and Mike Johnson are looking at is, hey, why should we give, and electorally speaking, when our brand has actually improved a little bit?
SPEAKER 10 :
So, of course, saying, hey, our brand's approved. This is what's happening. And in context, of course, it's putting Democrats in a bad spot because it looks like, you know, they are not willing. If they don't move on this, it looks like they don't actually care about the people that they're representing. Of course, they're talking about people who are in need of food assistance, people that are in need of, you know, I think we all are in need of the air traffic control. But, Mark, is that the sort of feeling that's going on in Washington, D.C. now that this is a crack that at least could start pushing us forward?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I think that's a fair take. And if you look historically at shutdowns, I think Republicans would tend to tell you that they get blamed often in the public. But that's just not happening this time. If you look at one public opinion poll after another. Either both sides are equally taking the blame, maybe Republicans slightly more to blame, but there's no big gap like there has been in the past. And right now, I think we're at an impasse and you're seeing senators starting to come up with these alternative ideas like let's take a limited, narrow approach at something like food stamps or SNAP. the air traffic controllers. I know my wife and I were flying last weekend and we were thanking the TSA agents who were being at their duty stations without being paid. So I think you're starting to see, you saw the unions on Monday come out and say, hey, let's break this impasse. I think it's starting to change a little bit here in Washington.
SPEAKER 10 :
We're starting to feel the pain, I'd say. I mean, not personally, and I don't want to act like I am feeling the pain of this, but a lot of people are. The trickle-down of it is starting to happen. I'm hearing people talk about it a lot more in my regular public life. We're not in Washington, D.C. We're in Nashville, Tennessee. And all of a sudden, it feels like it's starting to bubble up. The conversation is happening more. Now, I know some of the concern out of Washington is that Simply, the representatives don't necessarily feel the pressure and the pain themselves. They're still getting paid, and it is what it is. Clearly, their offices have to shrink down. Things happen. People get furloughed. Is there a tone shift in Washington, D.C., when these shutdowns happen? Do you feel it, if you want to say, in the air? Because people who are not there may not understand what happens and how it actually feels.
SPEAKER 01 :
You do see a little bit of a tone shift and you see traffic gets a little better for those of us who have to commute in. But there are some positives. That's right. But the House of Representatives staff, they get paid once a month. That's the way their pay schedule works. Their first missed paycheck is this Friday. And I was in a meeting yesterday and someone brought up, hey, if you're not a member of your federal credit union, You can become a member, just put a $5 deposit in, and you can get an interest-free loan. And some of these more junior-level staffers, folks right out of college that come to Washington, they want to make a difference. They're not paid a lot of money. They're starting to worry about where their next paycheck is going to come from. So, It is something that's starting to be felt here in D.C. And members of Congress, they're constrained by this pesky 27th Amendment in the Constitution, which says they can't alter their pay. A lot of them have voluntarily had their pay withheld. They go to their clerk and the clerk of the House or the secretary of the Senate and say, don't pay me till after the shutdown. But, you know, this food stamp snap thing that expires on Friday, Saturday, that seems to be the first one that both sides are paying attention to a little more closely.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it affects everyone and it starts to affect, you probably can speak to this, but it definitely affects people on both sides of the political aisle and it starts affecting everyone around the country. I think people will be surprised how many people are reliant on the SNAP program as much as there are some people who are calling in saying, you know, that they don't like this kind of funding in general. I think we know that that's not the case. There simply are some things that our government should be helping out on and maybe they're This is one that we can have some bipartisan support over because it's not just hurting. It doesn't feel like the pressure. It may be hurting someone politically. And look, the Republicans are going to blame the Democrats. Democrats are going to blame Republicans. You know, I had overheard people who are Democrats say, you know, it feels like the ballroom is the is the focusing. All President Trump cares about is the ballroom and he doesn't really care about what's going on. Of course, they don't know all of the minutia and how everything works, but maybe visually they're not wrong in the sense that it doesn't look great to be like, look at the construction happening here. We obviously know how that funding works while things are not getting paid. Do you feel like there is, I know you said that typically the Republicans are the ones that take a hit on this. Do you feel like though that that has shifted this time where the American people are reacting maybe from both sides?
SPEAKER 01 :
I think that's accurate. 42 million people rely on food stamps, and that's something that both sides are going to have to wrestle with. But I think what you're seeing here in D.C. is both Republicans and Democrats, I think, are starting to acknowledge this is a stalemate with the American people, and they're going to have to look for a way to get themselves out of this shutdown. I don't know what the final answer is going to be on that, but... If you talk to, if you listen to what Senator Thune, Majority Leader Thune and Speaker Johnson and even spokespeople for the White House have been saying is we can meet the food stamp need. We can pay the air traffic controllers. We can pay TSA. We can pay the military. We can do all of that. if the Senate Democrats will just release this hold on the House-passed bill that keeps the government-funded status quo. That was a seven-week bill when they first passed it. It's now down to a three-week bill. That just gets us to right before Thanksgiving, but at least it would reopen the government. It would take care of all of these problems at once, and then they can negotiate on other things later.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I think we need to push for this, Mark. I appreciate you joining us today and really explaining it to our audience because I think you do a great job in that and breaking down what's actually happening, what it feels like in Washington, D.C. And look, that is why the Washington, D.C. office is so important. It's why it's our headquarters. It's why we're expanding that office. We have seen such a, you could say, a rebuild of that team and what it could look like because it changes. As I said, you have to change when it comes to who's in control, who has power, whether it's Republicans or Democrats. Is it all three? Is it just the presidency. All of that shifts the way we work on it. But now we're kind of rebuilding this new team. And this new team is able to take things to the next level. And it only happens because people like you support the ACLJ. As we wrap up the month of October, I do want to say thank you because we're going to have some big November and Decembers. If you're considering supporting the ACLJ, It's a good time to do it now, but it's going to be a great time to do it starting next week in November and December as we roll out some really cool concepts and plans and things that are going to be happening as you can support our work towards the end of the year. But we know things are tough right now, and that is why I want to fully get behind this and say, yes, if you're one of these supporters who say, I think we need to get Snap back and we need to be working on it. I mean, we got calls coming in right now, people who are saying that they're on Snap, that they need it. So I know that this is important. And whether they're willing to take the sacrifice or not, it is something that we need to at least be aware of as Americans, that this is happening, like you said, to so many millions of people. But I thank you for joining us. I do want to quickly take a call that hopefully can help set up. My dad's going to be joining us in the next segment. We're going to pivot a little bit. Stay on hold if you're on hold because we will get right back to calls coming up in the second half hour because a lot of you are calling in right now. But there's some ACLJ champions on the line. I want to make sure I get to the one that's been on hold the longest. Let's go to Melissa first. ACLJ champion, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hey, I just wanted to say I think that I agree with the bills for the SNAP to be instated and the TSA to keep stated. But I think Congress senators should not be paid in lieu of the fact that these other people aren't being paid. And one group that is not being acknowledged at all is people with disabilities living. They live with a wheelchair, et cetera. They're not there. going to be compromised if they don't get their staff services.
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Sure.
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There are a lot of people who are really, I mean, again, I'm pushing this hard because I really believe in it. I think we need to get this done. Look, it is a very short bill. This is a two-page bill that's happening right now. We're not talking about hundreds of pages to deal with. We're talking about a couple pages. Get this done. Get it done. Make sure people who are in need don't go hungry. That's the least we can do in this country. Get this pushed through. I think the Democrats need to do it. Republicans need to do it. And of course, I also agree with it for air traffic control, the FAA. Thank, as Mark said, thank those people, by the way, when you see them. They are working there often with no pay right now to keep you safe. Okay, would you do the same for your job? Something to think about. My dad, Jay Sekulow, is joining us in the next segment. We have a ton of people calling in. So stay on hold. I will get to all of you that are on hold right now. Okay, so don't go anywhere. My dad's joining us. We'll pop back to calls. All right. Go to ACLJ.org right now. Support the work. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. We've got one line open, and I'm going to take a ton of calls coming up in the next few segments. Again, just me today in studio, so we're having some fun here, but we're also breaking a lot of great information down for you. We had Mark Kelly from the ACLJ DC office in just a moment ago, and now we're going to be joined by my dad, Jay Sekulow, of course, Chief Counsel here at the ACLJ. First, probably need to give people, again, history when they hear Arctic Frost. They may not know what we're talking about because I feel like I always have to go back and remind myself with all these code names what it is we're talking about. But a lot of news is reported, including Just the News, our friends at Just the News, which, by the way, if you're looking for a great news source, they're always great and they're always very in-depth. I will say that that team, they don't put out a one-paragraph article ever. that is it is uh dense uh in a good way so if you're looking for a lot of information uh her friend john solomon at just the news they always put out great work um but more than 160 this came out that even it's even bigger than we thought more than 160 republicans have been potentially investigated in arctic frost so dad why don't you give them a breakdown of what arctic frost is and what this means
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, let me, you know, the government always comes up with these, you know, notions of describing their investigations with awkward terminology. Arctic Frost is what the code name was for this investigation involving lawmakers, legislators. I'm talking about members of the United States Congress, House and Senate, and the January 6th certification process and the protests that went up on Capitol Hill. And here's what is just unbelievably outrageous about all of this. If you look at who they targeted here, it was the then chairman. Jerry committee, Lindsey Graham, Senator Marsha Blackburn, Senator Bill Hagerty, Senator Ted Cruz and Jack Smith, the so-called special counsel. And, you know, my views on special counsels, I never liked them for any party. I don't care what party it is. I, I, I've seen the abuse and I've lived the abuse representing President Trump, so we know firsthand. And they basically were getting phone records on these individuals. Now we know it's much broader than those senators. Up to 150 people. I suspect, Logan, by the way, there's many more. That may be legislators. I'm sure there's other people. And they were getting who they called, when they called, where were they when they called. And we are representing these members of Congress, a number of them, including Senator Graham and Senator Blackburn and Senator Cruz. And we are taking this very seriously. We have authorized the filing initially of the Freedom of Information Act demand, which is going out tomorrow. And that will start the process that I suspect here leads to litigation because we've also looked at constitutional violations that have taken place, including something as important as the speech and debate clause of the United States Constitution. Constitution, which talks about equal branches of government.
SPEAKER 10 :
There are a lot of names that people would know on this list. Nearly 200 pages of documents provided new insights into, again, they said this is a quote from just the news, sweeping insight aimed, of course, at President Trump and the Trump world. You're talking about a lot of people that you would know, again, like you said, a lot of those elected officials, and then, of course, people If you look at this, there's John Eastman, there's Rudy Giuliani, people you obviously worked with during that time. A lot of people that were under investigation in this. They were using tags in their files, the new records, including fraud, corrupt, corrupt, whenever talking about this, corrupt camp. The new release documents also included various people and various targets. But again, they were even already going ahead and starting to make these labels and tags and groupings, including, like you said, fraud and corrupt. It also just shows you the leanings that were already coming out of this.
SPEAKER 06 :
No question about it. It's a very, really good point you made, Logan. And remember, what we're doing here in our government accountability project, this is an ongoing effort of the ACLJ, is just like in the IRS targeting scandal. We'll get the answers. We're going to take appropriate legal action. And we're going to represent the American people and, of course, these members of Congress. But we'll talk more about this in November. But I will tell you that this is very, very important. I'm seeing a lot of chats come in, Logan, on the YouTube feed I'm watching right now. And people are saying, so what exactly is Arctic Frost? It was a portion of the investigation that Jack Smith had undertaken going after President Trump and others. And he subpoenaed the phone records of sitting members of the United States House and Senate, among other people.
SPEAKER 10 :
It seemed like for no reason other than, you know, maybe the party they represented. I mean, it was people who were involved very loosely in all of this.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, a hundred percent. And what the outrage of all this is, was that Merrick Gartland's office authorized all this. So we're going to get to the bottom of it. We will get the accountability in place. We will take the appropriate legal action and You know, Logan, this is these are big cases. I've got another one we're going to announce next month at the Supreme Court. That's huge. I mean, just incredible. I'll save it for then. But the support for from our individual ACLJ members and especially our ACLJ champions is vital. And I encourage everybody that's listening or watching to support the work. Just go to ACLJ.org.
SPEAKER 10 :
bunch of champions on hold stay on hold you know that i get to you first so i'll get to you guys coming up first plus a lot of other people that are calling a lot of people dad are calling in not to pivot off of this but are calling about this snap funding because i think people feel maybe this could be a sign of relief we've got people many people who say i mean i think we have a warped view on the amount of people that use this service uh there are plenty of people that call in plenty of people that support who listen who watch who are reliant on some of these special services and need them. And you have some of the leading Republicans, and Marsha Blackburn will be on the show tomorrow. Of course, she was part of that as well, saying it's time to at least, if we're not going to stop the shutdown, let's keep the funding going for SNAP. And I have a question for you who are all watching on YouTube. You can simply put yes or no. Do you think that this simple two-page bill needs to be passed to continue SNAP funding. Of course, that is essentially food stamp funding, funding for people so they don't go hungry here in America. And it feels like this may be one of those moments where they hopefully could be some bipartisan support.
SPEAKER 06 :
dad what do you think yes you're 100 correct on that and and the issue logan is there's now a proposal to end at least to get this funding in place and if the democrats don't agree to it that tells you exactly they're using the american people as a ploy here and that's outrageous and again our government affairs team you just heard from mark on the broadcast we're on top of this This is a good solution. Let's see if we can get it through. And if not, it falls on the Democrats. Not all of them, because a number of them have joined with us on this.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, quite a few. And we have at least one co-sponsoring it. We'll see where those votes end up. And I'm hoping this is it. And also, of course, for our air traffic controllers. I know that Ted Cruz has put that. I think, Dad, as someone who flies a lot, we all fly a lot. There's really very little more important jobs out there than keeping our skies safe.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're 100% correct. And that needs to be rectified immediately. Hopefully this will get them to the table. There's a clean bill on there. We'll see what happens. But it's politics that it's worse when it doesn't get done.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. We will keep everyone updated, Dad. Thanks for joining us. And I'm going to take so many calls coming up. I'm going to try to get as many of these calls taken care of to open up lines so we can even continue to keep this discussion going. I'm seeing all the comments in. I'd say it's probably like a 95% plus people saying, yes, get this done. But you know what? We got comments, very different points of view. As we head into the second half hour of this show, some of you lose this. I look, I'm looking at some people are listening on terrestrial radio, some terrestrial radio stations, especially those that are maybe Christian teaching and talk kind of stations only carry the first half hour of the show. One, they should carry the full hour. You should tell them they should. But because they don't, there are other ways you can find us. We broadcast live each and every day from noon to 1 p.m. Eastern time. You can work your way back from there. You figure out in your own time zone where we're at. Of course, you can find us archived, but you can find us live. That is on ACLJ.org, on Rumble, on YouTube. On all your social media platforms, we're probably there live. And if we're not there live, of course, you can catch us on Archive. However you get your podcasts, we are there. And check out the ACLJ app. Also a great place to engage with us and the team here. But you can support the work of the ACLJ as well at ACLJ.org, which I encourage you. This is our shortest break. So don't go anywhere. In less than a minute, we'll be back. keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo and now your host logan seculo welcome back to seculo second half hour coming up now phone lines are completely jammed so i'm going to take as many of those as i can as we really discussed in the first half we had my dad on and Mark Kelly from the ACLJ Government Affairs team. We got a lot of those people on this second half hour. It's just me and you, everybody. So strap in. It's going to be fun. But we got a lot of calls coming in specifically about the plan from Republicans right now, the bill that they have put forward. And we're talking about some of the leading names here in the conservative world. You're talking about Marsha Blackburn. You're talking about Josh Hawley. You're talking about... Let me pull up the whole list here if I can in just a second. Here it is. All right, we got James Langford, we got Murkowski, we got Collins, Blackburn, Moreno, Kramer, Cassidy, Katie Britt, John Husted, is it Husted? I'm not sure exactly, and John Corwin, as well as Peter Welch, who's a Democrat in Vermont, saying it is time to at least co-sponsor this bill. It's two pages, it's right here. I mean, almost a page and a half. If you actually, if, you know, when I was a professor, briefly, college professor, if you had turned this in, I would have said, this is a fake two pages. This is about a half a page. It's about a half a page of content. I could read this to y'all in about 45 seconds, if that. Essentially, it just says, let's keep SNAP funded. SNAP, of course, is a food stamp program. Babies don't go hungry. Kids don't go hungry. Adults don't go hungry either, by the way. that we keep people who need food assistance taken care of. And you'd be surprised the amount of friends you have, neighbors you have, that they are in need of this. And I understand you're maybe listening as a traditional conservative Republican, and maybe the words food stamps and those kind of things don't ring true to you. But understand it is affecting people in a major way, regardless if you like it or not. It's needed right now. People are relying on it. We should not, as Americans, be funding everything else and not be keeping our people fed. It's pretty easy. On the other side of it, maybe a lot of you are going to be traveling over the month of November and December. I don't know. There's some major holidays coming up. How would you like to know that your air traffic controllers are actually being paid? That your TSA agents are being paid? That they're working hard to keep you safe in the air with actually being paid? You got to start looking at your own self. Would you be willing to go to work for no money? To go work at the airport? To deal with the craziness of holiday traffic? You can't blame them for having frustrated when they're not receiving money. And of course, some of these people are not the highest paid. So let's see what we can do. Let's actually get this one pushed through too. Ted Cruz has sponsored that. I want to take some calls. I'm going to take one right now, but I'm going to take a ton in the next segment. Let's go ahead. We got to first go to our ACLJ champions because I love that given that little perk here. Oh man, we got two champions that called in within 20 seconds of each other. Let's go to Mike first in Colorado. Mike, you're on the air. Hi.
SPEAKER 03 :
Can you hear me?
SPEAKER 10 :
I can. Go ahead, Mike.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. My take on this is quite different from most other people's. I'm on SNAP, but I don't think that they should vote to keep it open. In fact, I think Sean Daffrey should just say all air traffic control, all go home and shut it down. No travel for safety's sake until the Democrats sign the continuing resolution. How long? I don't think they'd last very long.
SPEAKER 10 :
I get it, Mike. I understand that point of view. Of course, there's a bit of sarcasm there and a bit that can't be done because hopefully this is not the way we function. But you're right. I mean, look, in a lot of the air traffic controllers, about triple the amount of normal. are doing that they aren't showing up to work or they're having issues or they're calling in sick and you know what you can't necessarily blame them when the government's acting this way but when you do go through those airports i do hope that you thank them and look mike you said you're using snap benefits you're happy to go without them that's fine there are a lot of people who don't want to play politics with this a lot of people who are on snap who do not care who is in charge okay they just want to make sure that they are really that their kids are fed and that's the least we can do So let's just push that through. I understand your feelings and your frustrations there, Mike. And I appreciate them, just like those that, you know, I appreciate in the way that some of the representatives are saying that they aren't going to take a paycheck. But certainly just it's not realistic for a lot of people. So let's see what we can do. We got a lot. We got two lines now open at 1-800-684-3110. I'd love to hear from you on this as well. 1-800-684-3110. Do you agree with Mike in the comments? Let me know. Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are jammed right now, but I'm going to try to open up some lines because we're going to try to keep this discussion rolling, whether it's about this new bill, latest bill, coming in for Republicans saying, you know what, if you're not going to stop the shutdown, fine. Not fine, but you know, we'll deal with it. But first, can we at least get people fed? Keep the food stamp program, the SNAP program open. While we're at it, Ted Cruz is like, how about we keep our air... safe how about we pay our air traffic controllers that'd be nice phone line a phone line opened up at 1-800-684-3110 of course if you're watching on youtube right now i know about half of you have never even seen my face before i don't ask you to financially support us i ask you just hit that subscribe button if you've never seen me before join us each and every day monday through friday we do this show live and i appreciate all of you who join in if you're on the comments right now also one of the things i always love to do well while i'm taking calls Put us where you're watching from. If you've got no comment, that's fine. I love seeing around the world how this show and how the ACLJ makes impact around the world. And of course, if you want to say something about Snap or you want to say about this, you can, you can comment. But I love to see where everyone's at because it's really amazing when there's thousands of you that join us live. It gives me and the team a really a good sense. I love that we were able to add this, you know, add a chat option to YouTube because it does. Sometimes it feels like, you know, when you're talking right now, I'm alone in this room. Feels like sometimes I'm talking into a void. But having phone lines, having open lines and comments, it makes me happy because I'm able to talk to all of you. So go ahead and put that in the comments as well. Let's keep the calls rolling. Let's go to Brenda, who is an ACLJ champion. A champion is someone, by the way, if you're brand new, that gives monthly, kind of like a membership to the ACLJ. They all of a sudden automatically set it up. Of course, you can cancel any time. So when you go and make a donation to ACLJ.org, you can opt in to become a champion. And I like to give champions a bit of preferential treatment. I know some of you don't like that, but I like it. It makes me happy. Because they are the ones creating the great baseline for the organization. Brenda, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, thanks. I'm in favor of the Republican plan. There are a lot of Mainers who really need that. And I also have family members who are recipients. And also regarding the traffic controllers getting paid, I feel this is paramount. I have friends who are frequent flyers. And this morning, I prayed with this group of women, and we prayed this morning for their safety and also for the shutdown to end. So this is a big deal for some people.
SPEAKER 10 :
Brenda, for the people that it affects, it's the biggest deal. I mean, you're talking about either their finances, holding up their finances while they're supposed to be thinking about keeping you safe in the air. I don't think people understand sometimes, because we've seen the television version of what an air traffic controller does, how much they are working. Whether that's in their local area, whether those that work on the federal level, nationally, because they're working on making sure there's not birds flying into the engines. I mean, we're literally talking about that kind of thing. Making sure they're shooting off different kinds of warning flares to keep birds from flying into your plane. I mean, stuff like that that you're not thinking of. that keeps the air safe to fly in. Of course, air traffic and air travel is the safest of all, but there's a reason. Because we have these robust plans. And you know what? If we don't have this robust FAA, this robust air traffic control system, it's not going to work. And if you don't have people getting paid, there's a certain point where they stop showing up to work. They got to find other ways to work. They got to find other things to do. Or they're simply frustrated and you can't blame them for that. On the other hand, you have people that legitimately are trying to feed their families. And whether you agree with the SNAP program or not, I typically do. You go... Yeah, well, they've been reliant on it. We're not going to all of a sudden starve a bunch of people. I think that's the right thing to do. Thank you so much, though, for calling. We continue on to take a couple more calls in this segment. Let's see here. Let's go to Paul. A little bit different. Let's go Paul in Texas. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Jay. Hey, go ahead. Hey, you know, I know this isn't popular, but I disagree with this single source bill. You know, you're going to reward... million people that for the most part don't even pay into the tax system but those that do fund those type of programs with their federal taxes are the ones that are being punished and not getting paid now i by no means want to see anybody go hungry i mean let's be honest snap is one of the most corrupt programs in our federal government however at the end of the day if they tie that to air traffic controllers the military and federal workers, I have absolutely no problem with it. But if you give them single source bills, that you're rewarding the Democrats by allowing them to pick and choose. Because let's be honest, once the American people realize that they could vote to be funded through the Treasury, they're going to vote for those that feed them. They're like a stray dog. You feed them once and they're always going to come back.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I think a lot of people feel that way. That's why I wanted to give you the opportunity to speak. And I understand the frustration here. It is two separate bills. You are right. There's the air traffic. I want to make sure we're clear about that. The air traffic funding bill by Ted Cruz and then the SNAP funding bill. These aren't all looped together. These are two separate things. The SNAP funding, I think it does have more of a chance of getting through than the FAA, the air traffic control bill, which is unfortunate. I think both are near the bill is the Keep American Flying bill. Keep America flying to keep us safe in the air. I think that that's important. Of course, you have keep SNAP funded. Both are separate. Paul, I understand the frustration with it. I understand you thinking that it's corrupt. I'm not saying there isn't that happening here. Maybe some of the food that gets funded is not great for everybody, and there's a lot of issues with that that people have with the SNAP situation. I side with this, which is we are doing this, and it's not like we have taken away this. It exists. So if it exists and we've been funding people for so long and we have been helping people out with food assistance. uh, I don't believe we should be taking it away. And, um, you know, again, it may not be the most Republican thing, the most small government business thing, but I do feel like if we are going to have government funding of any of this, there are certain things I'm fine with. That's one of them. Uh, like I said, funding the military and making sure that our military doesn't have to be on these systems because they have had to be put on snap. They have had to be, uh, put through, um, a different dollars and, and, and, and delayed. And that's really heartbreaking. Uh, You've also seen some interesting things push forward in certain states where SNAP funding, when you're given your food, essentially your food allowance, your financial allowance for it, things like farmer's markets, if you go to a farmer's market, your money is doubled in certain areas. There have been certain things that we have done correctly, depending on the state. I think that can happen even more so if we start talking about this. It becomes something that we don't just push under the rug. And what we're seeing right now is thousands of people, millions of people who say, who this affects, but we are seeing tons of you who are even commenting here saying, yeah, I use snap benefits. And I think that's telling, but thank you, Paul, for calling. I appreciate it. I'm going to continue on to take another call. Let's go to Charles in Georgia. Charles, go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. Thank you for taking my call. I just see that what the Democrats are doing is what they always do. They create a crisis, which is what they've done here. And then they want these systems to fail. I don't believe they're going to budge on anything. The Democrats, I mean, the Republicans put forth in standalone bills, you know, to the best thing that would be with that is to verify who's really causing this. By making them to respond to these and when they turn them down, hopefully they'll convince the news media that it wasn't the Republicans because the Democrats will use this opportunity to make systems fail. They won't agree to anything, in my opinion. And then they'll depend on the news media to spin it.
SPEAKER 10 :
to project what they've done back on the republicans and that's how they think they're going to win an election charles you're not wrong okay you're 100 right which is this is manufactured this is a created crisis all republicans did we want to continue on what we're doing and they're saying no that that's not good enough we need to go back we need to be fun playing parenthood we need to do all the things that the republic or that the american people voted for But Charles, you're right. They're going to create this problem and they are going to go to the news and they're going to say, look at the ballroom construction. That's where the president's mind's at. He's focused on the ballroom where all these people are starving. And of course, now they've had their feet put to the fire a little bit right now because you have a bill that says none of that matters right now. Let's keep Americans eating. Let's keep the skies safe. And you're right. There's a good chance. Sadly, there's a good chance that those fail just because of who is listed on this. Who wants to get it done? James Lankford. Marshall Blackburn, Katie Britt, names that if you're a Democrat, you don't typically care for. Now, can we push across party lines? I sure hope so. But you're right. You shouldn't necessarily hold your breath on it. It's not 100%. Phone lines are still jammed right now. We will take as many of these as we can. I know this is touching a lot of people. A lot of people have a lot of issues with this. We had other topics we were going to get to. I don't know if we're going to get to them. We'll try. But so many of you are calling in and commenting about this that I do think it's important to keep this all going. And they're right. You have the mainstream media on your side. But that is why it is important to have shows like this. Understand that as many people watch this show by the end of the day and listen to this show, if not more, then watch a lot of mainstream media. And we are not funded by some corporate overlords or major sponsors. We are funded completely independently by people like you. That's not only our incredible legal work that the ACLJ is doing, always. That is this show. That is the media operation we run here. It's why we have a large media headquarters, some of the best minds in media. And I want to be able to pay them as well because we want to have the best of the best here. And we're able to create independent media because people like you support this show. Again, if you hear an ad in your local market, if you're listening on radio, that doesn't go to us. That goes to your network or someone else. That doesn't go to us. None of it. Not a dollar. Then you have what happens on YouTube. You may see an ad. Understand, that doesn't even pay for maybe a salary of one of our employees. Maybe two. Maybe. Probably not even for a full year. None of this happens without your support. So I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org. A bunch of lines just opened up. 1-800-684-3110. Give me a call right now. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are busy right now, but there may be a couple open up. I'm going to try to get through these calls, and then we'll see where we're at. Let's kick it off. Hunter's calling in Ohio. So many of you have called in today. Thank you. You've been on hold for 45 minutes. I appreciate it, Hunter. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I was just, first I want to say that I am in support of any action that's going to get the men and women who work for this country paid. I'm in full support. Even SNAP, even though I'm not 100% behind that, because I believe that responsibility falls to the church. But I digress. My main reason for calling, as far as the shutdown is concerned, the shutdown has been presented as a $1.5 trillion spending package for the Democrats. under the guise that it's all for health care, the ACA and whatnot. And if that were the case, they wouldn't have this spending package full of pork, all these side spending things that they want to do, which is largely just a reversal of the big, beautiful bill and what they stomped out as far as the Doge was concerned. As far as fraud and waste are concerned. But the main thing is, I don't think that it was ever intended to bring Republicans to the table was really just meant to be a stalemate so that they could do the whole the whole social media posts go in front of the cameras. you know, show the good fight. And then I have a lot of respect for the Speaker of the House who's been playing damage control. He goes on and just dispels these lies every day. He's on the TV dispelling and kind of informing what's going on, because it's more than just that. It was always intended to be a stalemate for political gain on their side. And if they don't vote for these bills... that's going to show it. On top of the fact that if they do vote for the bill, they're going to have to have some sort of admission that they might have been in the wrong here.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, Hunter, I think that you are right in this. Of course, this is manufactured. This is made to put pressure on Republicans to make it seem like they're not doing what they said they were going to do. But of course, you have a moment here where you just passed a big, beautiful bill. You already made some concessions, some of which I was not thrilled with. And now they're asking to reverse a lot of them. And of course, they have control of the mainstream media, a lot of those outlets, and they're going to push those forward. They're going to push the narrative forward. And I see it working. And I'm having to spend too much of my time explaining all this to people. Thankfully, we have a very educated base that listens, watch the show. I don't have to sit here and break it all down for you. But you know, most people, politics is not the number one thing they're talking about or thinking about. I'll say this for me. You know, people come up to me in the street. They ask me questions and comments. And of course, I'm willing to engage and talk about it. But I got a family. It's not the number one thing I'm thinking about when this show is over. Sure. I go back to the work of the ACLJ. We got a lot of work going on, but it's not politics. Playing politics is not the number one thing that is on my table. And nor should it be. Should it be for any of you, really? But unfortunately, when you stop paying people. and you start taking away food assistance to people in need, it comes to your doorstep very quickly. And we're seeing that with how many of you are commenting, seeing with how many of you are calling in. How many of you called in, didn't want to be on air, but have told us that you're on these food assistance programs, commented and said the same thing? Okay. We know it's real. It's the reality of America right now. So whether you like it or not, and I understand why some people don't. And look, I think if we were going to go back to the origins of this system, there are things we could have done a lot better. I'm not saying that it's a good system. I'm just saying it's the system that we have right now. And I think people who are reliant on it should continue to have it. Let's continue on. Rodney. is calling his aclj champion another champion man we have today is the day of champions and i appreciate each and every one of you i appreciate everyone who donates and supports and i appreciate everyone who just watches uh you know that's enough for me the people that say i'm gonna give on a monthly basis rock and roll thank you rodney you're on the air rodney there go ahead hello hello
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I just call in saying we don't need any extra stand-alone bills. We have a bill that all they have to do is pass and it opens everything up. True.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right, Rodney. But we're seeing that as a stalemate. Nothing has happened. It's not moving. No one's moving. So what you're doing is now when you have the pressure from the unions, you have pressure again from the two big unions over the last couple of days. Now you have Republicans saying, fine. You know, again, kind of put your money where your mouth is. If you really care about the American people, let's get the two big pain points over with so then the American, we can actually focus on getting this done and it's not going to affect people who are in need of food assistance or people, I don't know, air traffic controllers, those that are going to keep people safe flying when we're about to head into the two busiest months of the year. I'm not saying it's going to get done either, Rodney. I'm saying they're going to play politics with this too, unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong. So I'd love to see it done. But I understand when you feel that way. Let's go ahead, continue on. Let's go to, let's hop over to Sharon, who's watching on the Salem News Channel, which is a great place to watch the show as well. Great lineup of people there for free on Pluto and Samsung TV and a lot of options, of course, on their website. It's another great place to watch us. It's a real 24-hour news network that we're a part of. And Sharon, go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, I'm Sharon. I think they ought to fund the food stamps for all these kids because they're going to end up doing without. And I think we ought to take the Democrats money away and then they'll start voting.
SPEAKER 10 :
Look, Sharon, you know, Bernie Sanders was asked about that and said, do you think, you know, these representatives, they should not be they should have their finances withheld as well. He's like, well, some of them have have small kids. They got families. They can't afford to do that. Of course, completely throwing away what's actually happening to regular American people. that aren't in Washington, D.C. As we heard from Mark in our offices earlier, when I asked him, do you feel the difference? Do you feel the pressure? What he said was, traffic's lighter. That's not exactly what I was hoping for. What you hope is they actually feel a bit more pressure. So call your representatives. Be involved in that as well. Sharon, thanks for calling. I appreciate it and I agree with you. Let's hit up. We got two calls in two minutes. Let's see. Leslie, go ahead.
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Hi, yes. I was calling in about the EBT situation and First of all, I think they need to go ahead and release the funds because you do not, I just don't believe of anything that they can negotiate with. Feeding hungry people is not the way to go. And they're also risking a lot of civil unrest because, you know, you see on social media a lot of people, whether they're in the right place and doing it for the right reasons and deserve, or there's someone who's abusing the system, it could create a lot of civil unrest. So I think they need to free it up. But moving forward, I'm hoping that this has taught people a lesson in how the SNAP program is being abused, because allowing the abuse of it is creating systemic and generational oppression, I believe. Once a mother has a child, you know, if she's having a child and she's supported by the taxpayers on welfare, whether it be HUD, Section 8 housing, food stamps, medical or whatever, and then let's say she moves on and has a second child and a third child and so on. The government has been good at subsidizing single-parent homes. These fathers are held oftentimes unaccountable, and I think that they just really need to start looking at how they're going to overhaul the system. They encourage mothers, I think a lot of times, I would say seduce them to allow for the bare minimum requirement so that then they have security. They don't have to worry about a home and a roof over their head if they're a section of civil life. And so I think they need to free up the funds. Let people have food. You don't negotiate with that, regardless of who it is. These are children that we're talking about that did not ask to be brought into this world. But we need to move forward. There needs to be some hard conversations about how we stop this moving forward.
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I'm only cutting you off because we're running out of time. I agree with you, and I think maybe this will be one of those eye-opening moments where they go, oh, let's take a look at what's actually happening with the SNAP program now that it's become a bit more as a top news story. Hey, Brent, unfortunately, we're not going to be able to get to you today if you were called in. I appreciate your comment. Brent essentially said he wants both parties to come together in unity. We got to stop hurting people for this country for playing politics. I agree with him. Brent, if you want to call in earlier tomorrow, I'll do my best to get to you. Thank you all for listening and watching today. Flying Solo was pretty fun with all of you. Had a good time talking about stuff that's not that fun to talk about. But I'm glad a lot of you joined in and chimed in. Of course, we are headed towards the end of October. November and December are big months for the ACLJ. We've got a lot to reveal next week. Marsha Blackburn's going to be on the show tomorrow and so much more. Go to ACLJ.org. You can donate if you can, become a champion if you can, but look around at some of the amazing free resources we give you right there as we head into the holidays. Talk to you tomorrow.
In this episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush tackles one of the most debated topics in health and fitness today: the relationship between exercise and weight loss. Joined by Shanice D. Ireland, a health enthusiast with an eye for efficiency, the duo dives into why exercise alone might not be the panacea many believe it to be. With insights from major studies and personal experiences, they unravel myths and misconceptions about metabolism while offering practical advice for maintaining a healthy lifestyle.
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All right. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Welcome. Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. It is that hour where, yes, we talk health and wellness. And A little colder out today and heading down the stretch into the holidays. We're going to talk a little bit about that here in a few minutes with Dr. Julie Gatza. But question of the day yesterday, which beverage company once claimed in court that its drink was so acidic it would dissolve a mouse in 30 days after a man alleged that he had found one in his can? The answer is Mountain Dew. Made by Pepsi. And I don't drink it. Never have been a big Mountain Dew guy. Maybe when I was younger, drank a little bit of it. I don't know. And some people love it. In fact, there's probably some that are addicted to it. That's never been my favorite drink. So everybody has their favorites, especially when it comes to sodas and things like that. Not, as you guys can probably imagine, not a big soda drinker, period. Just haven't been now for about 15 years. Was prior to that. I won't be the first to tell you that prior to that, yep, drank a lot. in the past 15 years. Today's a possible question. According to a 2013 study, what common habit has been shown to boost concentration? According to a 2013 study, what common habit has been shown to boost concentration? Some of you are going to be shocked when I give you the answer tomorrow because I wouldn't have guessed this. Now, I am one that does this, but I had no idea that it was a help when it came to boosting concentration. So, All right. First off today, metabolism myths. And this is – it may shock some, may not shock others. And this is something that we talk a lot about on the program. And I've kind of gone down this path before, maybe not quite as directly as this particular article is going to talk about. BBC Science Focus magazine, there's an article out. I picked this up a couple of weeks ago. The single most important lesson about losing weight. And surprisingly enough, and I've talked about this, it's not exercise. In fact, I will say straight up that I think there's a huge misconception, and I've seen it happen with individuals where, you know, I'm going to shed some few pounds. So they make a New Year's resolution. I'm going to shed some few pounds. I'm going to buy a weight machine or I'm going to get a rolling machine or I'm going to buy a treadmill or I'll go to the gym or whatever the case may be. I'm going to exercise, and that's going to take the weight off. And actually, it doesn't. If you don't make other lifestyle changes outside of exercise, you might actually gain weight, not lose weight. I've seen it happen. And I'm not a personal trainer or anything along those lines, but I've had my own personal journeys when it comes to weight loss, as you all know. So I do have some background in this. And I will tell you that if you want to lose weight, exercise is not the way. Now, should we exercise? Absolutely. And I'll get into some of that in this article here in a few minutes. But this is a study, by the way, major new study, 4,200 people across 34 different countries. Researchers found that people who exercise more... Don't burn more calories than those who sit around all day long. It's minimal, by the way. And anybody that's done any kind of tracking on exercise, whether it be you're walking, hiking, jogging, you're working out in the gym, whatever, when it's all said and done, you may have only burned 300, 400 more calories that day than you would have otherwise. It's not as surprising as people – it's not as much as people think. It's surprising that it's as low as it is to most people. Now, my fear with a lot of people that do go out and exercise, and again, I've seen this, is they exercise and because they exercised, mentally they think, oh, I'm way ahead of the next guy. I can go have an ice cream cone or I can have that candy bar or I can have that piece of chocolate cake or I can have fill in the blank. And a lot do that. Oh, I can have a donut tomorrow morning. I exercise, you know, tonight. Or I went to the gym this morning. I'll stop on my way home and have one of those big old huge frappuccinos that's like 2,000 calories. And I've seen gym people do this, by the way. You can see them in their outfits and they're in the line for whatever. And it's like, yeah, you know, it doesn't work that way. Now, some people have really fast metabolisms. They can eat that stuff all day long, whatever. And by the way, I'm not judging. No judgment on my part at all. You do you. I could care less. But my point is, mentally, I think a lot of people that exercise end up eating more than they would otherwise and then wonder, why am I not losing weight? I'm doing all this extra work, but the pounds aren't coming off. And by the way, I've been there, done that. I am one of these people that I'm talking about. I've done that. work extra hard, do all sorts of extra work, work really hard in the gym, or you do this or do that, or you just think, man, the weight's just going to fall off. No, it doesn't. Because your body is still working off of a particular count of calories that it's required to live off of. And honestly, folks, it's as simple as this. It's math. Whatever your standing, you know, cleric intake needs to be to maintain weight, whatever that is, go below that and you'll take off pounds. It's that simple. Go above that, you're liable to pick up some pounds. Now, I understand, and we'll talk to Dr. Julie here in the bottom of the hour, 3.30, and yes, there are certain foods and things that we do that can definitely help us when it comes to staying healthy and helping with our gut health and helping with our overall metabolism and so on and so forth. And yes, it's not a one-size-fits-all either. There's lots of things, I think, that come into play with each individual, and you have to find where your sort of level is. It's probably the best way for me to say that. And no, it's not the same for everybody. Some people eat things and be just fine. Other people can't eat that. And if they even look at it, they pick up weight. Some, by the way, can eat anything they want to. For example, I'm one of those individuals whereby if I have bread of any kind, I'm going to pick up weight. It is what it is. And it's just something that I know about me and my body, and I'm sure there's others out there listening that are very much the same way, and that's me. So I cannot have bread. If I do, I'm going to pick up weight. There's a lot of research out of late, and this isn't my subject today, but I may get to this in the future, whereby our bread is way different today than it ever has been. It's not the same. And there's lots of studies going on along those lines explaining that it's not the same as it used to be. So that's one of those things where you really need to understand all of that on the front side before actually going down that path. But again, bottom line of this particular study is A lot of extra exercise is not going to actually take off weight. And Shanice is going to be joining us here in just one moment. So we'll talk about a few things heading into the holidays with her. So don't go anywhere. We're going to come right back. 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And we're back, Rush to Reason, Debra's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Health and Wellness Wednesday. Shanice D. Ireland joining us now. Shanice D., how are you today?
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I'm doing great. How are you doing today, John?
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We're doing very well. It's always a joy to see you. My wife and I both, we watch your Instagrams and follow you around, and it's like, holy crap, how do you get all this stuff done at the end of the day? I'm being dead serious. I don't know how you get everything done.
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You know, I'm not going to lie. Today, there were some tears shed. I was, like, a little overwhelmed, especially with trick-or-treat and Halloween and all this stuff, you know. And it's okay. Sometimes it's just okay to step back and be like, okay, there's too much on my plate. I'm going to take a breather, you know, unload some of this stuff and just try to enjoy the holidays. The holiday season can really be stressful and overwhelming. Yes, it can. You know, now, honestly, John, it's a really good time. I know people might think this is crazy, but go ahead and start preparing even for Thanksgiving. Right after Halloween, I am so ready to take down the decorations of Halloween. I'm done with it.
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You're over it.
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I'm ready to dive. I'm over it. I'm ready to dive into Thanksgiving. Yeah. Honestly, there are some things that you can do now. There are some things that you can even make up into a month ahead of time, believe it or not, for your Thanksgiving dinner.
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Okay. So really quick. So you're really busy. You've got all this stuff going on. You're going crazy. And then you've got this goofy radio guy that's always asking to come on air. So it's almost like, oh, jeez. Yeah, one more thing to actually add to your plate. But thank you for taking time to be with us, Shanna. See, I look forward to it. I'm glad you're here. And maybe this will just be a little bit of a respite from the day. Let's just say it that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is. It's so nice to talk to an adult and not one of my five kids. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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We do.
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We do, and so do all of our listeners. All right, so you're prepping for the holidays. You can do this several weeks in advance. So give us some thoughts on things you could actually prep. Because, by the way, great idea. And I am one of those that if I can do, and my wife knows this, if I can work ahead on anything, I do my best to do so because it just makes things easier when you actually get there. So I do my best to manage things well and work ahead when I can because it just seems to take some of that stress off down the road when you know it's already going to be stressful.
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Absolutely. Several weeks ahead of time, you can go ahead. If you're going to make the homemade pie crust, you can make that dough, flatten it into discs, freeze it. Go ahead and put that in the freezer. You don't have to worry about it. You can even make the casseroles ahead of time. You could assemble them without baking them, wrap them tightly, and freeze those. That's the sweet potato casserole, the green bean casserole. When you decide to finally bake them, of course, you want to take them out, thaw them the day before, and then you're going to bake them, of course, the day of Thanksgiving. You can even make the cranberry sauce. In fact, it tastes even better beforehand. So making that at least a week beforehand is going to taste better. So those are some things you could do several weeks ahead of time. Now, of course, there's other things that you need to just do. five to seven days before Thanksgiving. That's going to be like the stuffing, you know, the gravy base, salads, that kind of stuff, the, you know, the dressings, the marinades, those are the things you need to wait closer to Thanksgiving. But preparing that menu, you know, grocery shopping, some of the things, the perishables, the things that you know, you know, the pumpkin pie, the canned goods, all of that kind of stuff. You can go ahead and do that ahead of time, and then those are some things you can check off your list, and you don't have to worry about when you're going to be hosting your Thanksgiving.
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I know one thing that my wife does, and to her credit, very, very good at this as well, is not so much even on the food side, but what about all of the other people normally set a table, and there's claws and silverware and all this other settings and so on that go with it. Aren't those things you can work ahead with as well?
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One hundred percent. You can go ahead and pull all that stuff out or take inventory of that stuff if there's stuff that you need to purchase. A lot of this stuff's on sale right now currently because it isn't quite Thanksgiving time yet. And then also, John, I want to make a really good point. Don't stress about all of the nice cloths and linens. It's okay to have disposable pie tins and, you know, just going with store-bought items, too. Don't make it super stressful on yourself or your host. It's okay to kind of make things a little bit easier on yourself. So if you need to buy some things at store-bought or maybe a couple of things are going to be disposable, that's okay too.
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Okay, what about a menu? In other words, you talked about a moment ago, you know, working ahead, kind of even picking out what you're going to do that day. I'm assuming those are things you can also work on on the front side and in a way start kind of checking off that, okay, I do have these things. These are things I'm going to have to get at that time because they are perishable and so on. So I'm assuming just making a list even now is, I know it sounds like it's a long way away, but Shanisty, it's not. So could you start on some of that as well?
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Oh, for sure. And if you are going to somebody's house, ask them. Be very blunt and honest. Say, what can I bring? I will not take no for an answer. And if they say no, say, okay, well, this is what I'm bringing. And if they say, oh, that sounds great, then there you go. It can be as simple as an appetizer. It could be a side dish. It could be one of the casseroles. It could even be dinner rolls. or just a drink or something like that. Planning that menu ahead of time, deciding are you going to do a whole turkey? Are you just going to do a turkey breast? A lot of people don't like the dark meat.
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True.
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So decide something like that. Are you going to do mashed potatoes? Are you going to do a baked potato? Are you going to do stuffing, store-bought, or are you going to make it homemade, the gravy, sweet potatoes? All of that stuff, you can go ahead and sit down and decide that menu and trying to purchase some of those things now before they fly off the shelf because we all know.
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Great point.
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A couple weeks ahead of time, it's gone.
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No, great point, great point. And this is something else that most people don't realize, Shanisty, is even the turkey itself. Now, for a lot of you listening, you probably already know this, but there's very few unfrozen fresh turkeys in America. And I learned a lot about this several years ago. Most people think that, oh, that seems really fresh. It actually probably was frozen at one point. Here's my point with that, Shanisty. Nothing wrong with buying a frozen one, sticking it in the freezer, and letting it thaw out a week or so in advance, which it takes several days to thaw out anyways. Reality is they're all that way anyways.
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Absolutely. And, you know, you need to allow at least 24 hours at minimum. You know, it's 24 hours per five pound turkey is kind of the standard. And you really you want to be careful with turkey. You want to get online and read all the safety measures. And I mean, it sounds silly, but.
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No, you're right.
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That's right. That's right. Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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That's right. No, 100%. And again, my point, folks, is a lot of times you think, well, I need that fresh that week because that's just what I've always done.
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Maybe you've always just done it that way because somebody else generationally before you did it that way. But really, at the end of the day, is it really to your advantage where I'm going with the Shanice? In other words, think ahead. And what things do I really have to get that week versus things I could get now, for example?
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100%. Yeah, you really need to. And that all goes to sitting down and making that list and being prepared ahead of time and figuring out who's all coming to your Thanksgiving or where you're headed and asking people and trying to figure it all out because nobody wants to be grocery shopping the week of or a couple days beforehand because it's chaos.
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Absolutely. All right. Talk to us about small batch pork rinds. That, of course, comes from a great company that we've talked about many, many times. You know, the Southern Recipe guys, which we love. We've talked about them many, many times in the past. Now, not only how we can incorporate some of these into maybe that particular meal, but talk about even, you know, we've got all sorts of things that will be happening prior to the meal. Kids start to get off of school and they're already running around and there's lots of things happening. And They need this and they need that. Anything we can do to kind of settle the troops, if you would, Channisty, helps. And I'm assuming some of this would tie into that.
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Yeah, for sure. Southern Recipe small batch pork rinds. I know I've talked to you about this brand before. I absolutely love it. It's a high protein brand, low carb. It's a wonderful snack filled with collagen as well. They have unique, bold flavors. They have the hot honey flavor, spicy dill. What I love about the pork rinds is it's great just as a normal snack paired with just a dip. or just to throw in a lunchbox or have as an after-school snack, but also you can incorporate it in different recipes. You could use it even as to crush up and put around your asparagus for your Thanksgiving meal, or you could even toss it into your stuffing recipe to have an extra added bonus of protein. There's just a variety of different ways that you can have the pork rinds added in there, and it just kind of boosts the health benefits to your meal just slightly.
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Okay. And again, for a lot of you listening, we're all trying to figure out ways to, you know, we want to feed our family as healthy as we can, Shanice T. Sometimes that gets really difficult. There's a lot going on. These are some of the little tips and tricks that can help you do that, especially to your point earlier, Shanice T., And I hate to say it this way because, you know, we want the holidays to be enjoyable. We want them to be fun. You want it to be a time of gathering and getting together and so on. But it never fails. They become super hectic.
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They do become hectic. And you know what? Before we know it, it's over and it's January and we're like, where did the time go? So that, and I know we hear this every year, but take the time, you know, do the things that your kids want you to do or your grandkids want you to do or your neighbor.
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Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, take a deep breath and just try to enjoy it as much as possible.
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Very hard to do very good words from your part on that, though, because it is really important. And I'm going to have to look in the mirror and tell myself the very same thing because I, you know me, I stay very busy all of the time. But speaking of you, and I talked about earlier how we follow you and we watch a lot of the things that you guys do. How do folks do that? How do they follow you and watch and do the things that my wife and I do on a routine basis?
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Yeah, you can head over to Instagram. It's just at Shanice D. Ireland. I'm also on TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and I have a blog, She's Becoming Domestic.com. I love Thanksgiving. I'm going to have a ton of recipes that's going to be going up on the blog in the next couple of weeks.
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All right, we hope to have you back, even if not before Thanksgiving. We'll definitely get you back on before Christmas. November's super busy for myself included with just the show and everything we've got going on here. But, Shanice T., if I don't talk to you before Thanksgiving, have a great Thanksgiving. We will talk to you before Christmas, I assure you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Thank you so much, John.
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All right. Appreciate you. Have a great rest of your day. Great lady, by the way. And I'm serious about my wife actually follows her more than I do. And there's times where my wife will say, did you see what she was doing in this particular video? And I'm like, yeah, no, I must have missed that one. And it's just she has a crazy life, lots of kids, lots going on. And kind of reminds me of when I was raising kids and probably why I can relate so much to what she's got going on on a routine basis. But great lady. And again, as she was saying, she's got a lot of great recipes and things like that for the holidays. So if you're looking for some help in those areas, follow her for sure. Shanisty. Ireland. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next. Great company that you can actually talk to and find that next used car. In fact, they can help even with a new car purchase as well. I get emails and text messages quite often from you guys asking, hey, who do you have out there that can help me in this particular area? It's Ridgeline Auto Brokers. Go to RidgelineAutoBrokers.com.
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, our Health and Wellness Wednesday segment. Dr. Julie Gatz is joining us now. Dr. Julie, welcome back. How are you?
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I'm good. Thanks. Yourself?
SPEAKER 16 :
Very good. I know it's only been a couple of weeks since we had you, but I've got so many things going on from now till Thanksgiving. I didn't think we'd have an opportunity to talk again. So I've got you here today, which I appreciate. And talk to us about that. We've got fall. It's coming up. We've, of course, got Thanksgiving coming up. There's Halloween right now that's just in a couple of days away. It's that time of the year to where, I guess in my notes, it even says seasonal digestive distress. Yes, it's coming.
SPEAKER 06 :
it is coming and you know it does start the downward word slide right about Halloween and And then it doesn't really stop until maybe February.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct. Unfortunately, no, unfortunately you're very much, because we all think, oh, you know, I'll just, you know, even those that are trying to eat better or diet or make a life change better, oh, I'll wait until Thanksgiving's over. Well, then it's Christmas and we've got parties in between and all that. Well, I'll just wait until Christmas is over. Well, then it's the New Year's and then it's the Super Bowl early February. And to your point, Dr. Julie, it just continues. It doesn't stop.
SPEAKER 06 :
It really does just continue. It's a little nutty. You know, one of the things that I can advise people to do at this time of the year is – and I know I've mentioned this many times, but don't skip breakfast. When you skip breakfast, you are going to be hungrier later at night. This is where you want to have the Halloween candy, the more pie, whatever it may be, Christmas cookies. So eat breakfast, have protein, start with two big glasses of water and – Then have your breakfast and eat protein throughout the day. You'd be amazed what a hard-boiled egg will do for you as compared to grabbing a handful of pretzels. We don't want to overwhelm the digestion. We're going to be eating more carbs and treats and sweets and things like that. If you're feeling gassy, bloated, indigestion, heartburn, acid reflux, any of those, constipated, diarrhea, all those simply mean is what you're eating, you're not breaking down. So you do want to Be mindful of what you're putting in and then taking some good digestive enzymes so that you can help to get some of the gunk out of the body.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, and we'll talk about those things here in a moment because I'm, as you know, a big believer in those already outside of even all the things that we're talking about. Let's talk about Halloween here first just because it's coming up in a couple of days, and I get it. Everybody's going to sneak a little something, you know, whether they're actually giving out candy to trick-or-treaters or they've got kids that are trick-or-treating or grandkids that are or whatever the case may be. Something will most likely end up getting snuck in, you know, and again – You do you, Dr. Julie, is my motto. I'm not going to get after anybody for doing so. But I guess, is there any tips on if you're going to sneak something out of the kid's basket, what should or shouldn't it be?
SPEAKER 06 :
Hmm. I don't really have a great answer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because most of what's in there isn't really fit to eat, probably, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you know, I mean, there's nothing healthy in there. There's nothing that's nutritious. So I suppose if you're going to do it, you know, you can't really think with nutrition, it's mostly quantity. So great, you know, enjoy a Reese's, have it, you know, maybe put one in the freezer and then get that stuff out of the house. You know, I don't know what you do with your kids. Some kids, some parents pay their, you know, kids money for, their Halloween candy. So I've heard of all different sorts of things.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you know, and for some of you, and I know maybe this is what, you know, we tend to do. In fact, I was supposed to bring a bag with me today down here, and I didn't. You know, all the leftover candy, things like that, and we don't have trick-or-treaters, so this just happens to be stuff that we had gotten for others that ended up with some extra batches of and so on. So in my case, Dr. Julie, it comes down here to the office and I drop it off, and I'm probably the enemy of everybody here for doing so.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're not doing anyone any favors over there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Talk about Health and Wellness Wednesday while they're bringing a sack of candy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. I mean, I always went and when I was handing out candy, we got, you know, the Weiler's or, you know, the Gumi, the Gumi Chews, the healthy ones. I just thought, you know what? These parents need a break. These kids need a break. So. I ended up being sometimes the healthy person that handed out that sort of stuff.
SPEAKER 16 :
Gotcha. All right. So, again, folks, again, you do you. That is not something that I'm going to get on anybody about, Dr. Julie. But here's what I do know. Some of you know the things that you're more, how should I say, Dr. Julie, sensitive to versus others. Okay, use common sense. You know what those things are. Avoid the ones that you're really sensitive to.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, if you know you really have a problem with chocolate, then eat something other than chocolate. Right. You know, a lot of people know that they have dairy sensitivities. So, you know, do anything you can then to get the dairy out of your diet and enjoy the other things that are coming across the plate. So, you know, it's really smart to not skip meals. When you're going to a party, don't wait all day to wait to eat at the party. You want to eat like a normal person, not like, you know, a cannibal that's just, you know, been starved all day because you're going to make bad choices and feel lousy within an hour.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. And that was going to be my next topic because it is also becoming that time of year where, you know, Christmas parties anymore start almost right after Thanksgiving. I mean, because the season is so short in between, as you know, Dr. Julie, you know, companies, and I know for us, you know, here. at KLZ. Ours is already planned, has been planned now for quite some time. You know, those things get on the books pretty quickly. So you're going to be going to a lot of these different events for most people. I mean, not everybody goes to events, Dr. Julie, but I think most will hit at least probably one or two a season, plus their own family gatherings. And yeah, you know, it just, it can be a lot. It can be overwhelming, I guess you could say, especially when it comes to your, you know, your health.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I agree. And you know, people stop drinking as much water, the summer's over. So They go dehydrated, then they go and drink alcohol and, you know, eat rich foods. And it's just it can be a bit of a disaster. So, you know, go fed. Make sure you're drinking water throughout the day. You know, get some 20 minutes of walking in. It just it'll keep everything in motion. It'll keep the lymphatic system moving. And it will make a need for good nutrition and at least get some of the sluggishness out of the system.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. When you talk about, again, these parties and different things and, you know, we're attending and we're doing our best to, you know, eat the correct things and so on. And in my notes here it even talks about being a food detective. And I get it. Every party you're not going to know exactly where every food comes from. But in general, I mean, let's face it, you can pretty much tell where certain things are, what they're covered in. It's not that difficult, but we tend to just sort of put blinders on, fill the plate, and leave and eat.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know. It's true. And, you know, the amount of food that goes in, your digestion is like, whoa, what is going on? This is rich. This is salty. This is sugary. Right. So, you know, maybe you want to start off with, If they're having a meal of sorts, eat the protein. Just fill your body with some protein first. And if it's just vegetables and it's not a meal, okay, go to the vegetable tray and just start grazing a little bit. Set the tone where you're just not putting in the heavy stuff right from the get-go. And, you know, keep yourself filled up a little bit, and then you can try the treats. But, you know, don't pile the plate because you're starving.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I know, you know, even for myself, you know, you're going down the smorgasbord and depending upon what the event is, you know, maybe it's a, you know, barbecue event, Dr. Julie, which we all know barbecue sauce and what it's full of and so on. And again, this is no judgment. I just know how these things work. And yet there might be some choosings there where it's like, OK, wait a minute, that that. You know, that brisket that I can have the inside of where it doesn't have all of the extra stuff coating. And by the way, I don't have to add a lot of barbecue sauce, and I know I'm making some people mad because that's what makes brisket so good at the end of the day. But my point is you can do some of these things that may, if you do it all the way it's supposed to be, yeah, not super healthy, but you can make it more healthy by adjusting what you're doing, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is so true. The chicken that has the cream sauce on it, you don't need all the cream sauce. Same thing with the salmon that might be covered in something. It's perfectly fine with just a little bit of that flavor, but you don't need to eat every portion of it. I would say one of the major things that people can try to do is just try to avoid the bread items.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and that's my biggest nemesis, so I just have to like, okay, yeah, and as much as I love it, for me personally, I was just talking about it even before you coming on air, that's the one thing for me where, and I love it, I am a bread guy through and through, and I just have to be disciplined and not do it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, me too. I mean, if I could live on an island and all they served was bread, I would be happy.
SPEAKER 16 :
You and me both. I'd be fine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I'd have no issues whatsoever.
SPEAKER 16 :
But for me, number one, it's a weight gainer for me, and it also makes me not feel well when I eat it. And I get it, and we can get into all of the, you know, bread isn't what it used to be and so on. Yeah, I realize all that. But that doesn't change what's on the table at any given time and what I enjoy.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's true. And, you know, there are so many things wrapped in the bread. So the other thing you can do is take it and just eat the insides out. You'd be amazed at how, you know, completely delicious it still is. Yes, the bread's missing, but, you know, grab an extra piece of lettuce, wrap it in it. You do feel like you're you know, participating in that meal at least. All right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Talk to us about you've had a big meal. Maybe you kind of overdid it. It happens, by the way. It happens to all of us, myself included. You know, you're like, oh, you know what? I'll be okay. You know, I'll make it through this well, especially when you eat really clean and then you go do that. It's like it doesn't take very long for you to not feel very well. So you go through that. You don't feel super well. What do you do after that? You know, what's a good way to help that particular situation when you've overdone it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I'm always a proponent of taking high-quality digestive enzymes, but there's also answers right in your kitchen. So anything fermented will help you digest. So that's the coleslaw, the pickles, maybe even the pickled beets, the ginger on the side of the plate, even the sauerkraut. So those things actually are aids to digestion, all our ethnicities. ended up bringing them to this country. And, you know, we sort of ignore the fact that those are aids to your meal, not just a flavor. And so taking those, you know, with a meal is always helpful. And, you know, I tell everyone to take digestive enzymes, even if they don't complain about having digestive problems, because we're buying the food, we're preparing it. We're eating it. We're going for taste, of course, but the other aspect is we really need the nutrients. It's the only way we're getting them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
So when you check digestive enzymes, it gives you the nutrition from the meal that you possibly couldn't break down.
SPEAKER 16 :
And somebody asked a moment ago, what are those? We'll mention those now. It's AbsorbAid, and just spell it out, and we'll talk about where to get that here in just one moment. And we talked last time you were on, Dr. Julie, about how there's the standard version, there's the platinum version. I buy the Platinum. I don't know. I guess just a good, better, best guy. If the best option's there, I'm going to buy that anyway, so that's what I do. And no, I'm not paid to say this by anybody, including Dr. Julie. I take these on my own. I take them every night. In fact, my wife last night, I had forgotten to take them. I laid down a bit. I'm like, oh, crap. I forgot to take my... absorbate so i get back up she's like well grab one for me while you're at it so it's just kind of what we do dr julie and and i know it sounds crazy but for those of you listening and my wife even asked me last night do you think these things really help i'm like yeah i said i i know i can tell the difference i can tell when i've had one and when i for some odd reason you know got tired went to bed forgot whatever i can tell the difference and for those of you listening they do work how do we get them dr julie uh they can go to the website which is nature's sources.com
SPEAKER 06 :
And they have the Absorbade and the Absorbade Platinum. They also have it in powdered form. So, you know, anybody of any age can take them. And a lot of my patients give them to their dogs so that the dog gets more nutrition for their meal. Elderly can take them. And you can also call the 1-800 number, use the code radio. And on the website and the radio, they'll send you some free samples or 20% off your first order. And that number is 1-800- 827-7656.
SPEAKER 16 :
7656 and use code radio. So those of you that called in and asked that, there's your answer. And by the way, and I know this, and again, I've learned enough from Dr. Julie over the years on how this works. You can take them. Pretty much any time. If you wake up, I know for me sometimes you wake up, it's like, yeah, I just don't feel as great this morning as I should. My stomach's not doing as well as it should. Take one. You can take them on an empty stomach. Not going to bother you at all. In a lot of cases, it might actually clear up that maybe you're still having something linger from the night before. Don't know what that might be, but you can take these. Dr. Julie, I know because of what you've told me, you can take them any time you want to. It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, if you take them on an empty stomach, let's say before bed, you know, sometimes people puff up when they're flying, their hands hurt when gardening, their back hurts. Because of the enzymes, it breaks down inflammation. It also breaks down bacteria. It breaks down viruses. It breaks down toxins. So you really can't lose by having this as your staple every day for eating meals and then using it at night to just help to keep the body healthy. Right. You know, inflammatory-free.
SPEAKER 16 :
No. And again, for those of you listening, does it work? Yes, it does. Now, I also want to say this. You can't, because I've made this mistake as well, oh, I'll take a couple of Absorbade before this meal that I probably shouldn't have anyways, and that'll just sort of be the stopgap for the meal. Yeah, it might help, but that's not a fix-all.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's not a fix-all, but it does help. You know, not everybody wants to eat well. Okay. Well, take the absorb aid then because you will have more toxins in the body than normal. So you want to have something help push those toxins out of the body so you don't reabsorb them in the blood and you become more inflamed and sickly and not feeling good.
SPEAKER 16 :
And you are 100% correct. And again, no, folks, it's not a fix-all. Does it help? Yes. And again, living proof. I'm a personal testimony on all of this. And again, I've gotten to the point where I take them at least once a day at night before I go to bed. Typically, though, I'm a once-a-day eater, so I typically have them at my meal. I'll also have them again at night before I go to bed. And if there's any time during the day where I'm just not feeling super well for whatever reason, then I'll take one at that time. As well. And they, Dr. Julie, again, personal testimony. Do they work? Absolutely. Especially for those of you listening, as we head into this time of the year where you're going to be doing things that you probably don't do the rest of the year. And the meals are most likely going to get a little heavier because of everything we've talked about already up to this point. Take this. It helps.
SPEAKER 06 :
It sure does. I mean, I've been using them with patients for, I think over 10 years and I've not seen a better enzyme. And, uh, Every time, it just solves the problem. So it's really been consistent.
SPEAKER 16 :
They do. Question for you, and this is for all of you listening. Most probably know this answer, but you know what? I think, Dr. Julie, there are people where we'll hear a lot about processed foods. Now, I think for most people that means, okay, it comes in a bag or a can or something along those lines. But is that it? In other words, what's the best way to tell if something's really processed and even highly processed? What's our guide on that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, sincerely, a box, a bag, or a can. And if it has more than three ingredients, I'm sure it's processed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so more than three ingredients comes in a box, a bag, or a can. And this is where it gets a little bit difficult when you're on that smorgasbord line of, you know, you're at work and there's a potluck or whatever. You have no idea how somebody made certain things. It may look really good in the dish, but it may have come out of a can. You have no idea. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
You really don't. I mean, you know, but it doesn't happen that often. So if you're going to do something like that, you know, just be prepared. Don't overeat. Be smart about it and, you know, enjoy yourself. But, you know, when you're cooking your own, if you just shop on the perimeter of the grocery store, you're going to save yourself a lot of unhealth. And I think it's actually cheaper to buy the fresh rather than buying all the black stuff. It does add up the other way. And you're not going to be making yourself healthy anyhow.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. As we head down this stretch, we're cold season. We'll start to come around as well as something we'll talk about even on down the road. But I know there's things that we should avoid pretty much at all costs because it's hard on our immune system. What are those things?
SPEAKER 06 :
Let's see. Well, sugar, of course. So, you know, that's going to be just rough on you. But it also comes in the form of, you know, juices. I mean, when you're drinking juice, okay, if you're having a small shot glass of juice a day, no big deal. But you wouldn't sit down and eat six apples, but you'll sit down and eat six apples in a juice. So it's just too much sugar. Unless you're juicing something fresh right then and there, it doesn't really have much vitamin C and nutrition left. You know, coffee, tea, soda pops, they're really hard on how you digest. They change your acidic system to basic. And when you have an alkaline or a basic system, once again, you're keeping yourself from absorbing nutrition. So it sets up a block and a wall. And I don't care when you eat your food and whenever you had your coffee to your pop, it will do that to you. So then when you're adding all the holiday eating, it's going to be, you know, even a bigger problem for you eventually.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. As always, Dr. Julie, I appreciate it. Learn something every single time you're on. How do folks find you? I mean, we talk about the Wellness Center and all of that, or the Wellness Institute, I should say. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 06 :
You can go on to my Instagram, which is Florida Wellness Institute. And if you get to the naturesources.com, there's information on me as well there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Awesome. Dr. Julie, again, I appreciate it. Don't know if we'll talk before Thanksgiving. Probably will be after. So have a great Thanksgiving if I don't talk to you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. You as well. Thanks.
SPEAKER 16 :
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All right, finishing out this health and wellness, going back to the first thing I was talking about, which is while exercise is great, even heard Dr. Julie talk about walking and the things it does to help your digestive system and so on, and I am not against exercise by any means. My point with that article that I opened up this particular hour on is don't be fooled. Even by personal trainers, which a lot of them, I'm sorry to say, will do this, they'll tell you that exercise will take all your weight off, and it won't. And again, I love personal trainers. I think their heart's in the right place. I think that they want the best outcome for the majority of people that they work with. On the same token, and let's just be honest here, personal trainers have an angle. The longer they can keep you as a client, the more money they make. Meaning, if you're continually working to get that last five pounds off, ten pounds off, whatever the case might be, and that takes extra time, and you're still a part of their program, well, where would their incentive be for you to shed that? I'm sorry. Again, I'm not against personal trainers by any stretch of the imagination, but are you really going to get an honest answer out of them when they've got a stake in the game? Maybe not. Maybe so. Again, I don't know each individual personal trainer. I'm guessing they're just like any other profession. There's some really good ones and there's some really not so good ones. True with everything out there. So point being, be careful. in what you're listening to and who's telling you what to do and so on. And I'm just telling you, you know, point blank as a person that back in 2010 lost over 100 pounds. And yes, I did. I can show you pictures of what I used to look like. Charlie even knows what I used to look like. And I will tell you that I didn't do that by exercising. Now, as I got my weight down and I felt better and I felt more like moving and doing things, because when you weigh over 300 pounds, you don't feel like doing anything. I'm just being straight up honest. You don't feel like exercising at all. When your weight starts to come off, yes, you're more energetic. You feel like doing more things and so on. And yes, and I still do. But I will tell you that I didn't lose that by exercising at all. I exercised as I got closer to my goal weight to feel better. And to have that movement like Dr. Julie was just mentioning, but I didn't do it to lose weight, and that wasn't even the plan that I was on. Fortunately, I had really good coaches and folks that helped me along those lines and told me straight up that, yeah, exercise isn't going to take the weight off. This is simply eating the right foods, getting your metabolism up, eating less than what you're burning each day, and so on. Now, I will also say this. That was 15 years ago. I was 45. It's a lot easier to lose weight when you're 45 than when you're 60. Again, living proof of that. Those of you out there listening know exactly what I'm talking about. As we age, our metabolism changes. It slows down. What I used to be able to eat when I was 45 and maintain weight isn't the same today. Now, here's the hard part, especially for somebody like me. My taste buds and what I want hasn't changed. I want to eat the same things and the same way I did when I was 45 or even 35. But you can't. So you have to make those adjustments as we age. Otherwise, you end up picking up weight. And by the way, a lot of older people as they age do. It's very common for the very reasons I'm talking about. It's easy to eat more or the same as what you always have. But your body doesn't need the same to maintain its same weight because our metabolism starts to slow down as we age. So keep that in mind. Something to think about as you're trying to stay healthy and do the right things and eat the right things and so on. So just a little bit of word to the wise. Do some of those things. You'll stay healthy. And I want you all to be healthy and live a fulfilled life. Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning coming up next. $56 off tune-up special. There's three to choose from. Go to klzradio.com. You can find their website from there and make the appointment online for Cub Creek. Find them today. Again, go to klzradio.com.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Wednesday, record-setting Wednesday edition of the Best Stocks Now show on this October 29th. This is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And we're here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. Why do I say record-setting? Well, you've got NVIDIA crossing the $5 trillion mark. How many zeros is that? A lot of them. You got the S&P 500 up 23 to 6,914 as it closes in on 7,000. The Dow is up 244,000 to 47,950, just a hair away from 48,000. And you've got the NASDAQ up 150,000 to 23,976, closing in on 24,000. These are all new, brand-new record highs across the board on the indexes. The small caps being left behind in the dust today. They've been eating the dust of the large caps for quite some time. The small cap Russell 2000 is up a little. It's at 2506. Gold is selling off again. Should we be worried? The gold stocks are up, however, here so far today. The bond market on this Fed decision day. Oh, no, there's not enough happening today. We've got to have a Fed decision also.
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And last but not least, Bitcoin is down 2,880 to 112.626. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show on this record-setting, did I say Tuesday? It's Wednesday. It's Wednesday, October the 29th, 2025. Do you know where your NVIDIA position is at? It's at $5 trillion plus today. Amazing. As Trump mentions that, yeah, I think NVIDIA might come up in the discussion with President Xi later this week on those Blackwell chips. And off she goes again. I'm the guy that called NVIDIA the best stock in the market now, and I have never rescinded that call. I'll have to look at the date of that article. How was that? I was looking at them earlier. Yeah, look that up and see how it's done since that call on that stock. Of course, it remains our largest position by far at Gundersen Capital Management, hitting $5 trillion. And you've got records across the board on the Dow. The NASDAQ and the S&P 500 after we hit 4,800 on the S&P 500 April the 8th. That's going to go down as one of the great calls of all time. I don't know how many people saw it or how many people read it. But I remember how dejected I was on that Friday when we hit 4,800 on the S&P 500. I was standing on the balcony saying, should I jump? It's only two floors. I probably would have survived the jump. But I didn't. Instead, I went to work. I rolled up my sleeves. I read that interview, and I had a whole different outlook on life after reading that interview. And I put out an article Sunday morning. Sunday morning I sent that article that the tariffs are going to work. This is a great buying opportunity. And, boy, probably one of the greatest buying opportunities I've seen in all my years in the market, Barry.
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Well, I mean, I was just going back to the last time that you wrote an NVIDIA-centric article. It was on June 20th of 2024. Of course, NVIDIA had already had its over-a-year run since that one earnings report. Yeah, that was a follow-up article. Since you wrote that one, the stock's up over 60%. The S&P, I think, is up over 26%.
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Now go back to the original article, the prequel to the sequel, right? Okay, that's the one where we really backed up the truck and loaded up on NVIDIA. Well, we had a mild sell-off late in the day yesterday, but we did close at record highs. What's driving the bus this morning? I'm going to say Blackwell. Blackwell is at the helm. Those comments that Trump made about bringing up the Blackwell issue. Now, we don't know if it'll be favorable or not, but it almost seems like. That's how we're going to get our rare earth elements is with the exchange of the Blackwell chips from NVIDIA. And, of course, right now, you know what NVIDIA's market share is in China? Zero, absolute zero. But they're doing just fine in other places around the world. And, in fact, NVIDIA was quite perky yesterday. I mentioned that in my presentation. My closing comments to everybody on the market close yesterday, I said, wow, what got into NVIDIA all of a sudden? It was up 4.8% yesterday.
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And up over 4.4% at the moment.
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Yes, and that's a breakout to all-time highs, which always is a pretty chart to look at. It's almost like a long pass into the end zone where the split end outraces the safety, and he's wide open, and that pass is just perfect right on his fingertips, and he spikes it in the end zone. Now, I saw plenty of that during the Dan Fouts and Don Correale years with the San Diego Chargers. And before that, of course, I grew up watching Don Correale at San Diego State, putting one quarterback after another into the NFL. There ain't nothing prettier than that arced pass landing right in the hands of a split end. I remember Isaac Curtis, who went on to have a great career with the Cincinnati Bengals, Man, he could get out there and out-sprint those guys, and boom, quarterback throws it right. Usually it was on fourth and one that Coryell would go for it. He was on fourth and one. There's a picture in my room here, a framed picture of him standing on the sidelines with my former weight coach, weight training coach in high school, Phil Tyne. And Dan Fouts right there, they're calling another play on the sidelines there. This was when Eric Cariel went to the NFL with the Chargers. NVIDIA crosses over $5 trillion mark on upcoming Trump-Shee-Blackwell chip talk. Did you find that original article yet? Keep looking for that, because that last one was just like, hey, here's an update. Oh, there's a few different iterations. Well, go back to the one where I called it the best stock in the market now. Yeah, that one, I think it stocks up 333%. Okay, that's more like it. I don't want to hear 60%. I want credit for the whole enchilada there, and we've owned it that whole period of time. The semiconductor giant viewed as the biggest winner of the Wall Street AI boom. What was the date of that article, by the way?
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Well, so we've got, you know, so you're 8-29-2023, and that's where, you know, that one was another kind of almost a follow-up to the follow-up. Sequel. It's gone up 330% since that day.
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Now get behind the original article where I called it the best stock in the market now. Okay. Anyway, so NVIDIA is up 50%. This year it's added $1.6 trillion in market value. And as I've watched CEOs over the years, I would say Steve Jobs was probably the number one guy to go out there on stage and announce new products and was quite a salesman himself. Today it's Jensen Wang. I mean, Jensen Wang may be the greatest CEO of all time when you look at what NVIDIA has. And, boy, when you buy NVIDIA, you're getting shares of all kinds of private companies that he's backed. I mean, you've got to call him the king of AI. There is another gold rush going on over there in the San Francisco area, in the Silicon Valley, in them there hills. And it's Jensen Wang and all the picks and shovels that they're selling to these AI miners. Okay, not quite as exciting, but it is exciting. The 30-year fixed mortgage comes in at 6.30%. That's far from the 7% that we've seen. Yes, that's the lowest it's been in a year. And my hat is off to our Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, who has done a magnificent job. This has been one of the best years for the bond market in the last decade. It's up about 6.3% so far this year, which obviously pales in comparison to NVIDIA and the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ and the Dow, etc., etc., etc. But what does a rising bond market do? It takes interest rates lower. We've only gotten 25 basis points from the Fed. Hopefully we get another 25 today. But Besant knows the markets. He knows the fixed income markets. He knows the equities markets. Being a professional money manager for many years, he's got a net worth of about $100 million himself, maybe even more by now. Who knows? But he does have that 30-year mortgage down to 6.30%. It's still too high. It needs to get down into the low fives for my taste. I think that would really help the first-time homebuyer and the construction and building sector in the market. We'll see what we get from the curmudgeons at the Fed here today. When we come back, I want to just throw out a stat that's kind of stunning here. How have value stocks done? over this last decade versus just the S&P 500. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Now, that's the first article I wrote. Now, we had owned it for a while when I wrote the article because the article, the title says, NVIDIA remains the best stock in the market now. That was back on August 29th of 2023. The stock is up 331% since then. The S&P is up 53% since then. And I started the article off by saying I've witnessed a lot of earnings reports during my 24 years as a professional money manager. The vast majority of them have come within a few cents one way or another when compared to the analyst consensus estimates. But there's always companies that knock the ball out of the park. And I talked about Bobby Thompson's famous home run, the shot heard round the world. And I called this the earnings report heard round the world. At that time, that's what led me to write the article. And their earnings, that was the best quarter I've ever seen from anybody. They had a 429 increase in earnings and a 101% increase in sales that quarter, which all just blew by analysts' expectations. And I said it's still the best stock in the market. And my favorite comment is this one. I got 106 comments. I like the voice of reason. He says, 115 PE? Yeah, right, Gunderson. Buy at all-time highs. I think I'll pass. Well, I'm glad he passed because it gave me stock to buy.
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That's what I love looking at. That's why I was looking at the one. On June 20th, 2024, obviously the trade has been in place for over a year now, right, in that example. And, you know, like you said, you're still, hey, NVIDIA takes, this one's called NVIDIA takes the lead in the Silicon Valley Derby.
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Obviously, we were just talking about. That's when it pulled ahead of Apple and Microsoft. And then yesterday we had Microsoft and Apple both hit, you know, that $4 trillion mark yesterday. So there's still a race going on. Yeah, my funniest comment, I'll find it here in a moment, was, congrats, Bill, you nailed the top. Well, guess what? The stock's gone up another 60% since that article.
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And the market's gone up 26%.
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Well, I did have one of my followers in that first article say, Bill is a real deal. He has his own unique way in evaluating a company when it comes to investing in the stock market. I put out an $800 target price on Nvidia. Of course, it's split. It's way surpassed that target because it's done a big split. This guy says, you know, with the PEG ratio at just 2.34, that ain't bad. And that's what I've said all along. So it is good to go back and read these comments because usually I draw lots of negative comments. You know, when the S&P was 4,800 and on that Monday that article was published, or maybe it was Sunday, I think it was early Monday morning, I said the tariffs are going to work. Oh, that's got to be one of the most unpopular headlines and articles of all time. I can't even believe, you know, it was like, kick this guy off of Seeking Alpha. This guy is horrible, right? So anyways, look, I don't like to gloat or brag. It's a fact. A fact is a fact, okay? And the stock has done what it's done, and we still own the stock, and it's become our largest position. And there's NVIDIAs out there, other ones that come along. You just have to have your ear to the ground. Later on in the show, we'll talk about Verizon and Kraft Heinz, okay? Because we have to always do comparisons with Verizon. Soggy and vibrant. Okay, now let's look at the other news here in the market. There's a lot more, obviously, than just NVIDIA passing across the $5 trillion. Value investing. And, you know, when I do my workshops, I always say, look, there's a whole class of investors that are value investors, and there's usually a whole class of investors that are more on the momentum side. uh... side uh... you know i'm in the middle i want momentum and growth but i wanted her prices i can still make sense from a five-year target price so i'm right in the middle combining the two but the strict value investors have far underperformed the s and p five hundred this style is very much out of favor and i can tell you pure value investing that as i can tell you that when people transfer their portfolios to me I mean, just yesterday, I saw several value ETFs, value-bent ETFs, value-oriented mutual funds come in, and I get rid of them. Why? Because it's done about half of what it can't even keep up with the S&P 500 these days. Is value investing dead? No, I wouldn't say that. But I think you have to throw in a momentum element into it to improve value investing. Over the last 10 years, the Vanguard Value Fund, VTV Index, has done 11.4% per year. The S&P has done 22.8% per year, so really one half. And even over the last 12 months, the value index is up 9.6, and the S&P is up 17.2, so it continues to be about half S&P. of what the S&P 500 has done. And I just think it's because we've had so much innovation over the last 10 years that it's really chewed up and spit out your lower PE stocks that are growing by 4%, 5%, 6%, which there's plenty of out there. Now, obviously, when eventually these high-growth stocks have a big correction, and it's time to roll out the defense and take the offense off of the field, the value stocks will outperform because they don't go down as much. But is that really a reason to be invested in low PE stocks because they don't go down as much during a sell-off in the market? No, that's a terrible reason to own value stocks. The converse of that is they don't. far underperformed the market on the upside when you have a bull which we've had here for since 2009 the bull market just look at a chart look at a monthly chart began in 2009 and these people that are saying that the bull's now three years old no that's bull It's 16 years old. Okay, we're going to get earnings from Alphabet tonight, Google. It's been awfully perky lately. Microsoft's going to report tonight. I would call this Super Wednesday. And Meta is going to report tonight, along with Starbucks. And we've already had several here today that we'll get to. And then, of course, tomorrow we're going to get Apple and Amazon. So... I think the big seven will be in by that point in time. Eli Lilly and Walmart bring retail pickup option with DTC direct-to-the-consumer pricing for ZepBound. I think that's a pretty big thing for ZepBound. You know, I mean, as it is now, you can't, I don't believe you can get it at a pharmacy. Maybe you can. But with Walmart now carrying it, of course, you have to have a prescription. But now you can go right to a Walmart and pick up the miracle weight loss drug ZepBound starting at $349 per month.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, the first stock to go under the microscope here today, Barry. I got out my microscope here during the break. And I've got Boeing all teed up here. BA has reported, you know, they're still losing a lot of money. They're going to lose $20 per share this year. Well, they lost 2024 last year, 2024. This year they're going to lose $7 per share. They're hoping to return to profitability by next year at $3.24. That's the estimates for 2026, the quarter that they just produced. Their sales were up 30%. That's good. The same comparable quarter last year, they lost $10.44 per share. That's just in a 90-day period of time. This year, they only lost $7.47 per share. So you could say that's 28% growth in earnings. I don't consider it growth in earnings. It's a smaller loss than what they lost last year. But the trajectory is definitely on the upwards trend here, moving back, the needles moving back towards positive. They seem to have their troubles worked out until the next one comes along, if there is one. The chart is not very good on Boeing, and if we look at the two big factors that I look at, number one is their performance or their track record. Over the years, and of course, the last decade has not been kind to Boeing. If you invested in Boeing 10 years ago today, you've made 5.5% for the risk you've taken, while the S&P has delivered 23.2%. And you've had some really bad years thrown in there at Boeing. And in fact, in 2024, the stock was down 32%. You would have had some sleepless nights holding on to that one. Yes. Okay. So you might say, well, does it belong in the value portfolio? Well, I've looked at it several times as a candidate for my value slash relative value portfolio. The problem I have with it, The other half of my equation is the next five years. Yes, it's really important to look at the last five years, but it's all about the next five years at this point in time. And while I think the next five years will be a lot better for Boeing, barring any kind of big mishaps, I still just don't see that much upside potential in the stock. When I take that $3.24 and extrapolate it out, I'm using 8% a year over the next five years. I come up with the five-year target price of 319, which gives it 42.9% upside potential over the next five years. And when I compare that against all other stocks out there, it gets an F. valuation grade an F so I personally we don't own any Boeing at all we have owned it maybe several years ago but you know that's definitely it's had a good year I mean over the last 12 months it's up 44% it's made a nice comeback The runway over there at Boeing is just littered with planes ready to be delivered, and the order book is pretty thick right now. They've got a lot in their pipeline.
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The AI trade is looking strong today. Again, I'm looking at the power companies.
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Because of that NVIDIA.
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Same story as yesterday.
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Yes, because of that NVIDIA news. So Boeing, to me... is a total pass. I'll take a pass on that one. Even though I love the company, I love the people that work there. I talk to a kid almost every Sunday. He's a mechanic that works over at the Boeing plant. I have several friends. I have one friend that he literally is one of the last guys to check off a plane before it's before it's delivered to its destination so I have ears on the ground over there but as far as a investment right now it it just doesn't have to me I think a lot of that optimism has been built into the stock at this point I'm not going to tell you to sell your Boeing, but as far as new money goes, I just think that there's a lot better stocks out there right now. It wouldn't be in my top 25. It wouldn't make my playoff, my all-star roster, my midsummer field of dreams of stocks the best in the market now. Okay, the next one under the microscope. This is a classic dividend trap. What do I mean by a dividend trap? Well, I'll tell you what I mean by a dividend trap. If I read one more article in Seeking Alpha about retire on this dividend yield, it's going to make me sick. Before today, Verizon had a dividend yield of 7%. You say, well, Bill, look, if I can get 7% while I'm waiting for the stock to come back, that's a pretty good deal. Well, you have to throw in the capital appreciation or capital loss along with that dividend yield, which produces what we call total returns. And in the app, it was very important to build that into the app, not just dividend. How can you pass up a 7% dividend yield? You know, I'm only getting 4% on my CDs in the bank. Yes, but how has Verizon done on the stock side of that equation? Well, to get the answer to that, we look at total return. And the total return on Verizon, even with that big fat dividend, has been dismal, okay? Over the last 10 years, you've got a return of 3.7% out of Verizon. 3.7%, while the S&P is 23.2%. Now, I know somebody out there has got Verizon in their portfolio, and they're going to call up their broker afterwards and say, why do you have me in Verizon, VZ? Well, I don't know why they would, but over the last five years, you've lost money in Verizon. Why? They continue to lose sales to everybody, I mean, and market share to everybody. You know, it comes down to Internet and their telephone service, right?
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Yeah, I mean, the stock price was, I mean, it's a great example, actually. I mean, the stock price was $44.23 10 years ago. It's $40.17 now. That's telling you that all of the return that you've gotten during that span has been strictly the dividend.
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Minus the capital loss in the stock.
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Yeah, exactly. And why? It's because of what you've mentioned in terms of growth prospects. Earnings, earnings, earnings. Well, it's a saturated business. Of course, nowadays, how many people You know, you take kind of their core business in terms of cell phones. Well, how many people now have cell phone in the U.S. market and beyond, right? A lot of people, right? They're a service provider. Yeah.
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And so, you know, look, over the last five years, their earnings have gone down by 3% per year. Negative. Negative. And this quarter that they just produced, you heard me talk about the greatest quarter of all time that I saw was NVIDIA. This is just an average quarter for Verizon. Their sales up 1% and their earnings up 2%. Well, but it pays a 7% dividend, Gunderson. Well, go ahead and buy it. I don't really care. It's also a member of the Dow, which helps bring the Dow to underperforming the S&P 500. The Dow has underperformed the NASDAQ by a wide margin. But, you know, the Dow isn't really built for performance. I'll give you that. It's built to mirror our economy. And Verizon at $169 billion is a big player in our economy. AT&T and Verizon basically share. 50-50, I would say, the telecom service business, which is not a very profitable business. AT&T, over the last five years, their earnings have gone down by 8% per year. You know the axiom, and I believe it's true, that stocks follow earnings. If you've got minus 8% per year in earnings growth, you're going to have a negative return on the stock, plus the dividend. And that's what you've got in Verizon, and that's what you've got in AT&T. AT&T is a 4.3% dividend. Verizon's a 7-point dividend. But I wouldn't own either stock because of the soggy, soggy, stodgy old growth giants of yesteryear. I mean, these companies reek, reek with that stench.
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And for those who can't get away from the yield, right, it's a shiny object that you just can't not invest in, just do health checks to it. If it pays a dividend, see if it recovers that dividend before the next time it pays a dividend.
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Exactly. Anyway, you're getting back your own money and then losing on the capital appreciation is basically what that is. We'll be right back.
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We'll see you next time.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show, where we're talking about some best stocks now and some worst stocks now, Barry. And, you know, I mean, look. The growth giants of yesteryear is what I call them. They're great names. You load your shopping basket with their products, you know, on a weekly basis. You use their products on a daily basis. That's one thing they all have in common. I mean, Kraft Heinz, okay, we're going to put it under the microscope. I believe it's in the Dow. I'd have to look that up. I don't have those 30 Dow stocks memorized. They change often from time to time, but I do believe that Kraft is in the Dow. Can you do worse than Verizon? Yes. You can't do worse than Verizon. You could own Kraft time.
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Unfortunately, yes, you can do worse.
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Okay, so, you know, as I said, I invented the Best Stocks Now app for my use. As a professional money manager, I didn't want to hire 12 analysts to vote at the conference table on whether we liked the stock or not. I wanted to go quickly, quickly. I move very quickly in this business, but, you know, carefully, very methodically. That's all I've got to do. Over the last 10 years, an investment in Kraft Heinz has lost money. 6.5% per year lost. You've lost money in it. Over the last three years, you've lost 7% per year. And over the last 12 months, it's down 23%. KHC. And yet that's another one. I see it in numerous. I've seen it over the years in numerous portfolios that have come to me from usually the big wire house firms. Because it's Kraft Heinz. I mean, who hasn't slapped a thick slice of American cheese on a cheeseburger lately, right? or hasn't poured a little slow ketchup on their French fries. We all use the product, and we all know the product, and you think, boy, I'm glad I own some of that stock. Look at this shelf here at Walmart. It's just full of Kraft Heinz products. But there's a difference between the brand and the product and the stock itself. as an investment. I get pretty passionate about this as you can tell because I just hate soggy stocks. I've gotten a lot of soggy hamburgers with soggy buns. I remember going out fishing and tracking in my soggy sneakers coming back from a day of fishing and squeaking as I walked through the kitchen there and messing up the kitchen and tracking in all kinds of stuff on the bottom of my shoes. Clam digging is really bad for that. You go out and... or oyster... I tried gathering oysters one time. Those things are like razor blades. I don't want to have anything to do, whatever it costs to buy an oyster, I'm happy to buy a sack of oysters. Harvesting your own oysters, which I've got them right here behind my house. I have an oyster bed. Those things are like razor blades, okay? So God bless the oyster harvesters. Anyways, Kraft Heinz is just a horrible, soggy stock that's gone nowhere ever. It's lost money holding this stock. Think of the opportunity cost in holding this stock. Well, you could say, well, the deep value guys maybe are looking at it right now. Well, I show that it has 58% upside potential. That's if it can grow at 5% a year, which I don't think it can. I think that's even too generous for Kraft Heinz. So a very, very, very soggy stock. in my opinion. And if you own Kraft Heinz, God bless you. What's the dividend yield? It's probably fat. They've got to do something to keep people invested in the thing. KHC has got a dividend yield. Now, usually you'll find it fat. Yeah, 6.5%. And it's headquartered in Pittsburgh, PA, where we have our show every day.
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Buffett still have a sizable position in that?
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Probably. I believe so. Probably. I mean, these are the kinds of stocks. I mean, he obviously made a lot of money in these stocks during their heyday. But you can see what value investing. I mean, look, you're looking at a low P.E. ratio. The P.E. is 9%. Well, we should be buying that. The PE on NVIDIA, by contrast, is 56 right now. How can you buy a 56 PE? Because one stock is breaking out to new all-time highs today, surpassing $5 trillion, still has about 80% upside potential, while the other stock is hitting new lows, is growing at low single digits at best, That's why, yeah, Kraft Heinz is breaking down and hitting about a 10-year low today. Kick it out of the Dow if it's still in there. Their sales were down 2%. Their earnings were down 19%. That's not the stuff. that a Best Stocks Now is made of. It may taste good on a cheeseburger off the grill. Enjoy that, okay? But the stock is not a good stock at all. All right, let's see. We've got time for maybe one more here. Under the microscope, let's see. We've got Visa that's reported. We have Booking.com that's reported. GE Healthcare that's reported. Bloom Energy. You know, I don't own Bloom Energy, but there's one popping. Let's do Caterpillar. Caterpillar actually is a good stock. It's an excellent stock. I'll let you. That's your homework assignment. Download the Best Stocks Now app. I think that's one of the free stocks you get. Look up the 10-year, 5-year, 3-year, 1-year performance, and then look up the valuation on it. And I think you'll find a much better, more vibrant large cap stock than what you got there in Kraft Heinz and in Verizon VZ. All right, and Pittsburgh is on. I haven't made the lineup yet, but I think it might be on the back of that T-shirt for the Gunderson Tour in 2026. Pittsburgh is a place we haven't been yet, along with Houston and New Market in Atlanta and Columbus, Ohio. We definitely got to go visit Ohio State, who's still undefeated and number one out there. If you'd like to set up an appointment with us, you look at your portfolio and ask yourself, am I in good stocks now, even good stocks now, not bad stocks now? Give us a call at 855-611-BEST to set up an appointment and get a review on not only your portfolio but your financial plan. Without a plan, you're planning to fail. You should not fail to plan because then you'll plan to fail. All right, and if you'd like to get a four-week trial to our newsletter website, Go to GundersonCapital.com. GundersonCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were remade for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And when it is Wednesday, that means it is Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants. And you buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. That is for to-go or to dine-in. Their locations are Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora on Parker Road. And they also have great specials for lunch and happy hour, Monday through Friday, and a great place to get together to watch all the sporting events because they have plenty of TVs to do that. I do thank Hooters Restaurants for their sponsorship of the show. How I got to know them is a very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that think that they should be controlling our lives, which is not the case. So we've got a lot of stuff happening these days. So we're going to jump into it. Check out my website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And make sure that you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Saturdays. On Sundays, it highlights our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And while you're there, be sure and sign up for our voter's guide as well, which is there's a red banner at the top of the website. Just click on that, put in your name and your email, and we'll send you a link to download that. Many of you have been asking me about school board races, and a good resource for that is transform.org. Colorado.org. They did a really good job regarding surveys, asking questions, important questions for parental rights. And so you can use that as a great tool. I live in Douglas County and people are asking me who I'm recommending. I'm recommending Gamble, Kramer, Smith and Vail. And I think they're called the common sense candidates. But that is Gamble, Kramer, Smith, and Vail. And so I would highly recommend that you check that out. We want you to be informed voters, not influenced voters. The consultants on both sides of the aisle spend a lot of money trying to craft messages to get you to vote for something. And many times, those messages are somewhat convoluted. I guess that's a nice way of saying it. And so I want you to really think about these issues and understand them. Right now, these tax questions, really, we do not need to take on any new debt. And so if you're being asked to tax increases, Jenny has mentioned up in Wellington that they are asking, the fire district is asking for a tax increase there. I think it's a sales tax increase. That makes life less affordable. And all of these fire districts, they got a bump in their revenue when they And our property taxes went up because of higher assessed valuations. And so I got a text message. I live in the South Metro Fire District. And of course, we all really appreciate our firefighters. However, I drive by on a regular basis, a brand new fire station that is all brick and And it makes me think that we're spending a lot in taxes on that. So we care about our firefighters for sure. But two things that I think is disingenuous. First of all, well, I was talking with some neighbors about it the other night. I got a text message that said that South Metro Fire Protection had not asked for a tax increase for many years. And technically that is true. But the real question is, is was there a revenue increase? And I've not done the analysis, but I've got to think with higher and higher property taxes that they got a bump on that. But the other thing is, is they are detabering or asking to detabor or debruce. And D. Bruce is named after Douglas Bruce, who was the architect with others of Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. But what they're asking is for a $50 million annual tax increase. But then if they collect more taxes from us than $50 million, they're asking to keep it all. And I think a lot of people don't realize that. And I think that that that is greedy. And so I'm saying no on that. So, again, we talk about the national debt and we're so concerned about that. But then it seems like we we vote ourselves into all kinds of debt at the local, the county and the state level. And so we really need to be very thoughtful about that. So hopefully the the voters guide will be helpful for you on that as well. Our word of the day is ephemeral. It's spelled E-P-H-E-M-E-R-A-L. It could be lasting for a markedly brief time. And they have an example. This is from the American Heritage Dictionary. There remains some truth to ephemeral to be captured in the cold pages of a court transcript. And then number two, having a short lifespan or short annual period of above ground growth used especially regarding plants. So your word today is ephemeral to use in a sentence. And you should be able to do that. And the next thing, our quote of the day, I went to Sir Isaac Newton. He was born in 1643. He died in 1727. He was an English polymath active as a mathematician, physicist, astronomer, alchemist, theologian, author, and inventor. He was a key figure in the scientific revolution and the enlightenment that followed. And he achieved great unification in physics and established classical mechanics. And he also made contributions to optics and shares credit with German mathematician Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz for formulating an infinitesimal calculus, though he developed calculus years before. So this is what he said, though. He says, live your life as an exclamation rather than an explanation. And that is Sir Isaac Newton. Regarding headlines, first of all, we had a question regarding SNAP benefits. And I hadn't really thought about this, but if SNAP benefits do stop on November 1st, and Gammy mentioned this, things could get kind of rough out there because there's a lot of people at this time that are dependent on SNAP. SNAP benefits for food. And while I think Abraham Lincoln said something along this line, that we should not do for others what they can really do for themselves. But what has happened is many people have been encouraged and become dependent on government programs. So we need to wean ourselves off of that. But I think that if we just stop them on one day, I think Gammy's right. I But I think it was Holly that texted me and she wanted to know what SNAP benefits we have per person. So I found this on the USDA website. And in May of 2024, Let's see, there were 588,000 Coloradans who were on SNAP benefits, and that moved up to 614,000, almost 615,000 in May of 2025. Then it looks to me like we pay out just a little over $120 million per month in Colorado for SNAP benefits, which that works out to $195 billion. and 98 cents per person. So I'm wondering if there's a household of, say, four, if they're receiving $800 or close to $800 a month in SNAP benefits. That is certainly significant. And we do need to, I think, wean ourselves off of this and get back to where people are earning their You know, they're living. But I think I think he's right. I think it could get really rough if it just cold turkey just stopped. And so we need to really, I think, be watching that and see what happens with that. We are changing things up a little bit on the show today. I was trying to get Paige Hauser on from the Center for Renewing America yesterday. And they're very busy in Washington, D.C. And I just was not able to get that confirmed. So we're working things around a little bit. I'm hoping that Mike Rolick might be able to give us another segment because he always has so much to say and we normally run out of time. So stay tuned. This first hour will be interesting. And hold on. I'm sure there will be all kinds of great information. I'm going to get to see her later today. And that's my good friend Susan Harris. And I thank her and her family. for their gold sponsorship of the show. And it's because of all of our sponsors and because of all of you that our independent voice is on the air. I do purchase my airtime and that is why we are independent. So next thing, next headline, and this is a really important one. And this is regarding this auto pin of Joe Biden. And it's rather remarkable that this has happened in our country. But Representative Jim Jordan said to Newsmax that the Biden auto pin orders raise red flags. And I think that that is absolutely the case because he was signing things that obviously he didn't know he was signing. So this is from Newsmax says House Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan, Republican from Ohio, told Newsmax yesterday that findings from the House Oversight Committee suggest some of former President Joe Biden's executive orders and clemency decisions via auto pin may have been issued without his direct involvement. Jordan said hours after the oversight panel issued a 91-page report that called on the Justice Department to investigate every executive action taken during the Biden administration. Here's the bottom line, Jordan said. The country knew, certainly in June of 2020, that debate with Donald Trump, that President Biden just was not up to the task. So any signature that takes place after that fact with the auto pin, I think, is of real concern. And so with this, on top of the conversation we had with Kevin Lumberg yesterday regarding White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt basically accusing Obama of seditious conspiracy, things are going to get very interesting here in our country. So we need to pray. We need to continue to work. And that's what we will do here at the Kim Monson Show. We have all these important discussions because of our sponsors. And the Roger Mangan Insurance Team, well, Roger's been in business for over 50 years, taking good care of his clients and his family and giving back to the community. And give them a call for a complimentary appointment to go over your insurance coverage so that you have what you need. And that number is 303-795-8855. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And sign up for our weekly email newsletter there and download the Voter's Guide. We hope that that'll be a great tool as you are looking at the two statewide issues, which are titled Healthy School Meals for All Children, which actually a lot of that money will be going into PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties' pockets. And so really recommending a no vote on that. And how I say that is those are based to refer back to Proposition FF, which was passed by the people of Colorado in 2022. And that set up five new bureaucracies. And those bureaucracies have to have money. and they will get paid before any school meal gets on to some child. And there are also a number of other programs to feed children. One of those is the federal school lunch program, so I'm highly recommending a no on that. And then no on all the new debt for Denver as well. But you can download that at KimMonson.com. Just click on that red button. banner at the top and put in your name and your email and you will get a link for that and then also for all the school board questions you can go to transform colorado.org there's survey answers there which will be very helpful and i am recommending in douglas county gamble kramer smith and vale on the line with us is um mike rollick he is with the ralston valley coalition he's also a great citizen watchdog mike rollick welcome to the show
SPEAKER 05 :
Kim, good morning. How's it going?
SPEAKER 20 :
It is going well, and there's a lot going on out there. I mentioned school boards, but you've looked into a lot of AI regarding school boards, schools. What have you found out?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well... AI is here for better or for worse, and I'm interested to see how this is evolving the school board's purview, the school board's role. Not only AI in the classroom, I was looking into companies like Magic Board, and they have some interesting products, but also on the facial recognition side and the object recognition side as well. And just to kind of frame what I'm thinking about here, I don't know. if people had seen this story about this poor kid out in Baltimore getting flagged by an AI gun detection system at a school when he only had a Doritos bag. And according to the stories that I'm seeing, the general eyewitness news type stories here on Channel 7, they had several cop cars show up. They put this kid on the ground. And, you know, his statement is that they can get on my knees, put my hands behind my back and cuff me. And, you know, obviously he only had chips. So nothing came of this. Thank God there was no issues like he tried to run or reach for a wallet or cell phone. at night because this is at night, you know, so a lot of things can happen. Uh, you know, we, we all respect our, our, our police, obviously they're in a very precarious and dangerous situation when they're showing up to a call like this as well as, as, as the kid who might panic and, and reach for a phone. Um, and then things go sideways, very wrong, very fatal. Um, But all this happened because of an AI gun detector product that got it wrong. And that's kind of a scary system to me. I was looking into the company. They're supposed to have a human in the loop. And then that human in the loop would detect any false or positives that come out of this AI system and then pass that along. But what's a curious statement here. It was said by the company, while this object was later determined not to be a firearm, the process functioned as intended, which is very curious, to prioritize safety and awareness through rapid human verification. And that sounds like anything but. Why does this matter here? We had a ban on facial recognition technology in this state until this year. And that ban got turned to a partial ban via Senate Bill 25-143 signed into law earlier this year. I don't know if we had talked about this earlier, but this really kind of comes into play as you're looking at this current election.
SPEAKER 20 :
How so?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Senate Bill 25-143. will allow for the analysis of facial recognition features for educational purposes in conjunction with the curricula approved by the local school board, number one. So that means facial recognition techniques in the classroom. Or in Section D, you can have a contract with a school service contract provider for the purchase of a product, device, or software application that allows for the analysis of facial features under certain security situations. A, a school official or law enforcement officer makes a determination that an individual whose facial imaging has been obtained has made an articulable and significant threat against the school or the occupants of the school, and the use of facial recognition technology may assist in keeping the school and occupant safe. Or, this is interesting, if you cut class, a student absconds from a school class, event, or program, or is otherwise reported as lost or missing by students, parents, teachers, or school officials, and then there is a reasonable belief that using facial recognition technology may assist in finding the lost student based on data that can indicate the student's presence, location, or movements within or around the school grounds. And then if an individual has been ordered by the court to stay off the school property. So these are decisions being made by the school board. This affects charter schools as well. I don't know if private schools, obviously, since they're private, I'm sure they can do as they wish. But this will affect charter and regular public schools. And again, this is 25-143. So now you might have a situation where a school board, we normally think about what textbooks, obviously, what kind of reading materials that has come to light lately, where a certain reading material might be a little questionable for the youth. But now we're also talking about using facial recognition in the classroom and on the school property as a means of security.
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Boy, you know, there's so much that they hide behind security. And you've really uncovered this on all of this surveillance. And as you're describing this, how does this help kids learn at all? And so the surveillance under the guise of security and maybe and the flock cameras is another thing. They're putting these in. They say they want to get a criminal or a stolen car. I think the founders realized if we give up our freedom for, air quotes, security, then we are headed towards a very dangerous place, I think, Mike Rollick.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. How they say this can be used for the betterment, in quotes, is I've read stories and there's some research papers out that they can take facial recognition features and see if a child might have autism or some other learning disorder. However, Even in China, you know, this is from Lutzker and Lutzker. It's an attorney article. But it says in China, however, facial recognition technology has been more heavily used in K-12 and university classrooms. These quote-unquote intelligent behavior management systems collect, store, and respond to student facial expressions during lessons. Some of this software has misdiagnosed children by mischaracterizing standalone facial expressions as evidence of social disorders or lack of attention. Due in part to privacy concerns, hundreds of the surveillance channels which livestream camera footage from Chinese classrooms were shut down in 2017. But there are other systems that continue to flourish, and we've got some US-based proponents as well. So right there, what you're seeing is they want to kind of measure what a student's face is doing during a lesson. and then decide if said student has a potential issue or not. Again, this is very inhuman to me. It's taken the human completely out of the loop. And now you could have a parent saying, but my student isn't this. Or maybe they do need the extra help, but because their expression didn't indicate that, they're not getting the help. It's a double-edged sword that way.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and so, yeah, we have AI that's mistaken a Dorito bag for a firearm. And I looked at the story as you were mentioning this, and this, to your point, that could have ended badly. And that would have been, just think how the police officers would have felt. And thank God that it didn't end badly. But how do you change a diagnosis that AI gives on your child? How can that be changed? This is, okay, so let's bring this back then. So you said that these school board races are really important. Because school boards will be driving these decisions. So it comes back to how important these elections are and that we need to be involved like you are, Mike Rollick. And so these are really important.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Again, the state law, just for emphasis. It says, allows for analysis of facial features for educational purposes in conjunction with curricula approved by the local school board of a school district. So there really is a lot that the school board is going to be looking at. Not only that, as an aside, we just saw a sale of two schools that were lying dormant because of a lower student population. One was Allendale up in Nevada. It's going to become 56 homes. The school board last year decided that this is no longer needed. There are parents in the area that are saying another proximate school has temporary buildings that were housing students for classes. So they thought Allendale could be useful as a school asset. And now it's closed down as well as another one was shut down. And rumor has it they're looking at several more. to be sold off. Now, on one side, you could say, well, gosh, if you're maintaining a public asset and it's right to be sold because we don't have the student population, well, then sure, take that off your books and get the liquid assets, i.e. cash, to do something. However, from what we had heard during the hearing, it takes about $150,000 to keep that school up and running in like a mothballed state. And they sold the property for about $3.5 million. But conservative estimates to rebuild a school in the current climate would be $60 to $80 million. I was looking at some renovation projects. Just a roof alone on a school in Denver was $15 million. So to save the $150,000 and to make the $3.5 million, but then if the student population changes, if the birth rates change or folks move to the area with kids – then you're looking at having to replace those assets at quite a cost. So school boards also are involved in the sale or the crown lease, one of the two, because there's another law this year that got passed where school boards can decide to lease the property for an indefinite amount of years. So, yeah, school boards are doing a lot.
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Yeah, they really are. And so these races are so important. And you can get more information about those races by going to transformcolorado.org. And that should be a very helpful tool for that. Regarding the two statewide issues as well as the Denver debt issues, I did analysis on that. Also included the phone numbers for county clerks. so that you can reach out to your county clerks. Or in the case of a municipal election, reach out to your city clerk to get the contact information for the candidates so you can reach out and talk with them. It is so important to be an informed voter, and that's one of the things we really work towards here on the Kim Monson Show is to help you know what those issues are. And that happens because of our sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, reach out to Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And as you know, I have amazing sponsors who strive for excellence. And one of those is Jody Henze with Mint Financial Strategies. And she and her colleagues are hosting an event. It's It is, let's see, it's women and wealth, and they're bringing the excitement with watercolors, which is a perfect opportunity to build relationships and unwind. It's going to be Friday, November 7th. Tell you what, with all this news out there, I think unwinding is a good thing. At 5 p.m., it'll be in the Lone Tree area. And they have just a few spots left. And so reach out to Jody at MintFS.com. That's Jody, J-O-D-Y at MintFS.com if you would like to RSVP. Mike Rawlings on the line. He is with the Ralston Valley Coalition as well. He's a citizen watchdog. And One of our listeners said, I'm really pleased that we're talking about this, and this facial recognition thing is terrible. She sent over a story from KDVR that police used the flock cameras to wrongfully accuse a Denver woman of theft. And this is getting really scary, Mike Rollick.
SPEAKER 05 :
It is. It's interesting because as we're adding... a synthetic type of intelligence or at least data, you know, data processing into the loop. Just on a broad scale, I'm worried we're going to lose the right to face our accuser. That's a constitutional right, right? So who's accusing us at this point? An AI? Okay, they have a human in the loop that's supposed to be there. But that human in the loop, again, is not law enforcement either. Some have law enforcement backgrounds, according to some of the company's websites that I've looked at. OK, well, they have a background, but they're still now a private contractor determining if they want to call me in to the police because my leash for my dog. might be mistaken for something, for instance, or this poor woman in Denver or this poor young kid out in Baltimore just eating Doritos. And then all of a sudden, things could go horribly wrong. How do you face your accuser when you think about the corporate veil? I would I would hope that all of these companies can be looked at in the state actor litmus test and see if we are able to then do FOIA requests, core requests and get more transparency on what they're doing. And I know the Institute for Justice is looking at the flock cameras as a as a function of the state actor. So I know that that's Norfolk. the city of Norfolk versus, you know, these two citizens and Institute for Justice is looking at that. So hopefully we can sort those issues out because you definitely can't really talk to the human in the loop who decides or the AI who decided that you are a criminal and the police must be called. You don't get to really bring them into court and, you know, have them testify for or against their actions either. So it's kind of an interesting situation. A little further into this, bill that got passed. And when I testified virtually at the state during the committee hearing for this, the ACLU was there as well. And they were very spot on with their concerns for privacy also, which it's kind of an interesting world where the more conservative side of the ACLU kind of see the same direction. But one thing that really concerns me is To use the facial recognition technology in the classroom, there has to be consent. It's an opt-in system. However, the student, anyone above fifth grade, you need their consent and the parents are legal guardian under fifth grade, which I don't understand the fifth grade benchmark is just the parents are legal guardian. Um, technically till 18, they're, they're still a minor. So I don't know why in fifth grade that changes. Um, maybe that could be explained by, by somebody who sponsored the bill, but if there's a specific thing there, but I worry about the social stigma of 28 of your friends said, uh, I don't care. I want to learn this new math software that uses facial recognition. But my parents don't want me to have it. And now I got to sit there with a pencil and paper, so to speak, instead and be singled out for not going along with the new technology crowd. And I kind of worry about the social pressures. I know this whole discussion about all lunches and breakfasts are going to be here for free. apparently one of the rationale is to not separate people out, but to have this, this system where you can opt in or opt out, I feel like there might be some, some peer pressure. So I prefer that we don't have facial recognition in classrooms at all, but this opt in opt out could be one or two kids per classroom. And how are they going to feel? And that's interesting. And then the other thing with the consent is, is it says that consent may be obtained either at the beginning of each school year to cover use of all curriculum that collects the biometric identifier or biometric identifiers, or prior to the use of curriculum that does the collection. So my worry is if we're all told, okay, for the students, we'll collect this in September, and then – You do some research and find out by December that what they're going to start using in January is completely offensive to how you view privacy. Are you locked in? Is your child locked into this system already? So that's a problem as well.
SPEAKER 20 :
So Mike Rolick, and this was coming in from Susan, she said, this is a great point that we can't face our accuser. I think that we're going to have to reclaim the Constitution and also that we should be able to be secure in our papers. Now, I know everybody thinks that that cat is way out of the bag. But as Susan went on to say, she said, the argument is that AI is impartial, but that depends on who's doing the programming as well. And she said, and in this case, the officer acted as judge and jury. The lady had to prove that she was innocent. And all of this is things that the founders were very concerned about. Back then, it's basically many of the things I think that they faced back then, but it's with technology now, which doesn't make us any smarter or any better. I think it's the same age-old issues regarding government and tyranny as it was back then. What do you think, Mike?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you know, it's a great point. And I was also wrestling with this on my drive this morning. On the other side of things, you could have reporting fatigue. OK, so there are situations that I've read about, you know, back in the history of aviation when you would get a new device on an aircraft. And particularly, I remember in Vietnam, people, you know, the pilots were talking about some reporting equipment for different surface area missiles that weren't working correctly. And they started ignoring them. So could you also see a situation where the police officers are getting so used to false Dorito bags or what have you, that they start ignoring the reports and then these cameras largely become inert. And then when a real threat comes along, They already say, well, it was AI-generated or AI-reported or AI-flagged, so boy, who cried wolf. I'm not going to respond or what have you, or I'm going to respond in a different manner. And then the actual threat gets missed because of, quote-unquote, reporting fatigue or fatigue of false positives. That's a situation as well. You know, so this could be a huge problem, A, like we say, with the whole facing your accuser and the 24-7 collection of data. There is – in that state actor lawsuit, there's a three-part litmus test in there, and forgive me, I don't remember them that well. I'll get it researched up for next time. But part of what Institute for Justice was saying is the Fourth Amendment doesn't protect you when you're in public, but the reasonableness was – If a cop was sitting on a corner or just a general citizen was sitting on a corner, if they notice you do something, you're not protected. Now we have things that are sweeping up. information second by second, minute by minute, cataloging them in data centers on the cloud and then storing them and then going and possibly looking backwards for a crime. And that is where the Fourth Amendment apparently is being violated, because now you can store stuff for seven days, 10 days, 30 days. And in the case of flock, I know in New Hampshire, the law says you must destroy it in either three seconds or three minutes so that you're not collecting data and then looking backwards for a crime to fit the data. But that's a huge concern. And Carpenter v. U.S., I believe, talked about that with the looking through of cell phone data of greater than seven days also violates the Fourth Amendment because now you're storing data, analyzing it, and watching for a crime as opposed to generally seeing something happen in the public square.
SPEAKER 20 :
So Mike Rolick, I'm thinking getting to a police state, and during the break, Producer Joe said, as we were talking about schools, and it's getting kids used to surveillance and a police state. And I'm looking back and thinking how... Gosh, how free we were when I was a kid and I feel sorry for these kids right now. What's your final thought on all this, Mike? You bring up such great points and I really appreciate it.
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Well, it's a very interesting situation that you just brought up. It is a form of conditioning because, you know, when I talk about. why I use an older phone just for how I feel about privacy and how I feel about facial recognition technology that some airlines are using to board a plane or what have you. you'll hear the, well, they have all of your information anyway, so what does it matter? So the conditioning to me has already happened where people are so used to it all being out there, then quote unquote, what does it matter? Or the, well, I did nothing wrong, so what do I have to hide? And it's not about you being a criminal or not a criminal. It's about these false positives to me, number one, and just your general secureness in your own privacy. There are so many laws out there that You know, don't forget, if you're out at a park throwing a Frisbee for your dog that's off a leash, you're no longer a law-abiding citizen in some fashion, right? I mean, not with the big ones, but you're breaking a leash law. And at that point, if that security camera's up on a pole and sees you, what then? You know, one more thing about this bill that went through 25143 is It says, if a school has a contract to use facial recognition, the school should provide notice to students, parents, legal guardians, and shall post notices at the entrances to school grounds that the individuals may be subject to use of facial recognition of services at those school grounds. But what choice do you have? As a child, you have to go to school. If the charter schools are bound by these same laws, if everyone's using it, what good is the sign?
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Wow. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
There is not much choice.
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Yeah. Before we let you go, Mike, this just came in from Susan again. She said, another great point about storage as searching. And she said, tell Joe, great point. This is the same reason why we don't really want police in schools, because everybody defers to the officer for judgment. It gets kids used to a police state. arming teachers and staff, which is the second syndicate, what they're working with the FASTER program, is a better idea. And so I'm paraphrasing some of the stuff that she said. But great points on all this. We need to reclaim this Constitution. They were so wise on all this. And we've got to shed light on it. Your final thought on all this, Mike?
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You know, It truly is important to frame all of this new technology within the confines of the Constitution, within the confines of the actual amendments, you know, the Bill of Rights and the ones past that. And I'm particularly fascinated by the Fourth Amendment and where this technology does and doesn't fit. So that... I mean, a lot of folks look at the Second Amendment. We're pretty used to how to look at the First Amendment. But I think the Fourth Amendment truly is coming into its own as far as being studied and being understood in the context of all this new technology that really, really is kind of frightening stuff.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is. So, Mike Rollick, great conversation. We'll talk with you next week. Have a great day and thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks, Kim. You have a good day as well.
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And I agree with him. I have right in front of me my Constitution and the Fourth Amendment, and the founders were brilliant on this. They understood tyranny, and tyranny can look different, but when you're looking at it, it is the same thing as well. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything regarding mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy. We'll talk with him tomorrow. The Fed is meeting today, so we'll want to analyze what they announced today.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And while you're there, download our voters guide. You can do that by going to the red ribbon at the top and just click on that and put in your name and your email address and we will email the link to you. We hope this will be a great tool as you are completing your ballot. It's important to be an informed voter. Regarding Douglas County school board candidates, I'm recommending vote for Gamble, Kramer, Smith, and Vail. And for other school boards, and these are such important races, go to transformcolorado.org. It is an excellent resource as you are looking at your school board candidates as well. So that's transformcolorado.org. The USMC Memorial Foundation will be hosting an event in honor of Veterans Day on November 8th, which is Saturday, 2 o'clock out at the memorial. And it's important as we get to Veterans Day to stop and reflect and honor. our veterans, those that put on the uniform and were willing to put their lives on the line for us, for our liberty. And so that'll be a great event out there. That's 2 o'clock on Saturday the 8th. You can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then the other nonprofit that I highlight on a regular basis, which is just so focused on our foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism, is the Center for American Values. The center is nonpartisan. It's nonpolitical, but focuses on pushing forward and learning about these values with their educational programs for K-12 and to help educators and honoring our Medal of Honor recipients. And then Drew Dix, co-founder. of the center has started a new podcast series which he's got so much wisdom and it's called Words from the Silo and you can get all of that information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. An article that I think is important, Following the Money. This is such a problem that we now see different entities that benefit from taxpayer dollars use money then to encourage the taxpayer to vote for higher taxes. And this is a very important report from KDVR, which is Nine News. It says, who is funding the Denver ballot campaigns? And it says, as Denver voters prepare to cast ballots on key local issues, a good way to figure out who stands to benefit from each measure's passage or defeat is to look at the campaign finance reports that show who or what is contributing money to the campaign. says, I look for really big contributions, partly because that can change the nature of an election. Robert Pruse, a political science professor at MSU, said that Denver ballot issue 310, which asked voters to maintain a ban on flavored tobacco sales, has drawn significant out-of-state funding. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has contributed $2.7 million. to keep the ban in place, continuing his history of supporting ballot measures that limit tobacco access. It says, meanwhile, tobacco companies Philip Morris and Altria have each contributed $75,000 to oppose the measure. I'm somewhat ambivalent on this issue. I don't really know that much about it. If you have a strong opinion one way or another, let me know. I find it... curious that Michael Bloomberg's putting $2.7 million in this. And so text me. The text line is 720-605-0647. And let me know what you think about that. But then going on down here, he says the Denver bond issues 2A, 2E, through 2E, that's five of them. They're all debt questions to extend debt. Now, if you vote no on those, your property taxes will go down. And who doesn't want more money in their pocket? But Mike Johnston and company went around and promised goodies to, as Wendy Warner said from our Colorado Union of Taxpayers, she said he promised goodies to all of these different people. They asked, hey, what do you want? Then they promised that. And so it's going to be difficult to defeat these. But it says the Denver Bond issues 2A, 2E have generated $1.4 million in support and only $7,000 in opposition. And that's the problem is over on the freedom side is we don't have all these interested parties. People are interested in freedom, but we don't have it's it's a more of an intangible issue. For example, the work that we're doing at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, it's all volunteers. And with that, we've saved, because we've taken stands on things, and also with my voter's guide, we have saved Coloradans billions of dollars. But it's difficult sometimes to connect that dot. But while I mentioned the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, when you see these people out there, say thank you to them because they spend an enormous amount of their time in the spirit of the founders for freedom, standing up for the taxpayer, protecting your pocketbook through Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And I did see a headline that Representative Lorena Garcia wrote. is going to go after TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And so we need to gird up and fight that, and we will be in the fight. And so join us. It's only $25 a year. But when you see these folks, say thank you to Steve Dorman. Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And join us. That website is coloradotaxpayer.org. But this is the point to make. The major cultural institutions that benefit, that get taxpayer dollars, has each contributed $50,000 to this ballot issue. And so these entities live off of our tax dollars, but yet they have taken our tax dollars to put into a political campaign. There's something wrong with that. And that includes the Museum of Nature and Science, the Denver Zoo, the Denver Center for Performing Arts, the Denver Art Museum, and the Denver Botanic Gardens. It says each institution receives funding from the scientific and cultural facilities district sales tax, which is the special seven county tax. And the spokesman, though, they all say that their contributions came from earned revenue, such as admission fees and concessions, not tax dollars. Well, we know that money is fungible. And in fact, I think that if they're receiving any tax money whatsoever, they should stay out of political campaigns. I think we probably should somehow pass some legislation to do that. But right now, the legislators, they like our tax dollars as well. But we will continue. We will continue to shed light and to fight on this. We are getting ready for our second hour. Our quote for the end of the show is from Isaac Newton. And he said this. He said, if I've seen further than others, it is by standing up on the shoulders of giants. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured and you're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And, boy, I'm just contemplating all that is going on right now and how that is matching up with liberty. Really an important conversation with Mike Rolick in hour number one. If you missed that, you can hear that today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. This hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night, and that's on all KLC 560 platforms. But the surveillance state... And we're freely doing it out of convenience. And I know Jenny on a regular basis says it's because of convenience that we're, and I'm paraphrasing, that we're giving up all of our freedoms. And the convenience is great, but it's even like with Donald Trump, with all the things that he's doing. We need to be living our lives. We need Trump to stay within the Constitution, which I think he's doing a good job on that. And now he threatens some things that I think may be outside the Constitution. And one of those things that I'm concerned about is the threat of sending military into our communities. I don't really like that. Constitutionally, though, we're supposed to have domestic tranquility, and these blue cities do not. And as Gammy had texted me, if in fact these SNAP benefits go away on November 1st, the blue cities really could see some real dangerous times. So we want to stay within the Constitution, but we also need to be asking and requiring our other elected representatives to stay within the Constitution as well. And so the fact that we have these blue cities that are not domestically tranquil, they're not those leaders are not they're not leaders. Excuse me. And those representatives are not doing what they're supposed to do. So we're kicking the tires on these ideas. And right now, I think we're all contemplating and ruminating on what is going on. But this all happens because of our sponsors. I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. And Susan is in town, Susan Harris. So I'm going to get to see her a little bit later today, which I'm very excited about doing. As you know, we are searching for truth and clarity. And I really am searching today. I'm contemplating this whole AI thing and our freedoms. But we look at these through this issue of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And going to this Fourth Amendment, as Mike was talking about, the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated and no warrant shall issue but upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons of things to be seized. So going a little bit more on this discussion, Again, freedom versus force and all of this AI. Joe said that Doug from Douglas County had called in. And another thing to be concerned where you cannot face your accuser is these red light cameras. And I agree with him. I contemplated those when I was on city council. And again, staff brought this to us under the guise of... safety, making intersections more safe. But I think it was really a revenue generator. But again, I've been on this progression here of thinking about how this matches up to the Constitution. And I don't think that red light cameras do. And I think that we should get rid of those. But then Joe also brought this up to me. Producer Joe had seen this. And this was a um, article for, this is from October 16th of this year. It says Amazon's ring. Now I didn't realize that Amazon had ring, but it says Amazon's surveillance camera maker ring announced a partnership on Thursday. This was earlier this month with flock, the maker of the AI powered surveillance cameras that share footage with law enforcement. Um, And I want to hear what you all have to think about that. I see a big danger from a freedom standpoint on that. So let me know on that. And again, the text line is 720-605-0647. And Veterans Day is right around the corner, and it's so important to remember and honor our veterans. And someone that does an amazing job at that is Paula Sarles. She is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation, which I am so honored to support. We've got her on the line. Paula, welcome.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you for having me, Kim. Good morning. Good morning.
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Well, it's good to talk with you, Paula. You do such amazing work in honoring our veterans and our military and taking care of the USMC Memorial and working for the remodel on that. But tell us about the event on November 8th.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, they have our annual Veterans Day ceremony. It's always the Saturday before Veterans Day. Since Veterans Day, a lot of people don't get off. So we have Jesse Clay as our guest speaker, and he is a phenomenal speaker. And he's a Navy SEAL, a corpsman. He was first a corpsman, then he became a Navy SEAL, and he's a four-time heavyweight world champion and Hall of Famer in Kumite martial arts. Wow. So he's very disciplined, and I think he'll be a really good example for people to hear from. He's a great patriot, and we're looking forward to a good day.
SPEAKER 20 :
It will be a good day, and the ceremony starts at 2 o'clock. What's the address of the Marine Memorial?
SPEAKER 06 :
It's at 16899 West Colfax. and that's at 6th and Colfax intersection, and you park across the street. There's a bank, and they're closed, so we use their parking lot and then walk over. It's a short walk, about 2,000 feet, and... easy to get to.
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And actually in that parking lot across from the Marine Memorial is one of our sponsors and that is Little Richie's which specializes in pizzas and pastas. And so normally I'll pick up something when I'm out at the event at Little Richie's and take that home because they really have great food. So I get two for one when I come out to the Marine Memorial, Paula. Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I do the same thing. I love that place.
SPEAKER 20 :
I do, too. So, Paula, I think I've heard that people are concerned that we as Americans don't always have been in parades and don't stand for the flag on Memorial Day. And I don't think that that is where people are trying to take a stand against America. I think that people don't understand the importance of remembering and honoring. And so that's one of the reasons or one of the facts that you do your great work is so important. And tell us, there is a distinction. And again, I think a lot of people don't connect that dot, but there's really a distinction between Memorial Day and Veterans Day. So explain that to our listeners.
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Well, Memorial Day is the day to remember the fallen. And, um, On Veterans Day, it started out as a way to remember World War I heroes. And over the years, it evolved. And I just did a study on it. I'm doing a speech Saturday about it. So it changed over the years. And finally, in 1975, it was declared a holiday for November 11th. Permanently, it changed back and forth. And so... It's a day to remember all veterans, living and dead, and to thank them for their service and to do something to honor veterans. And John Kennedy said something to the effect of, you know, don't just remember them, but take action and do something, live your life to honor them. And so that's what we always do at the memorial. We encourage people to do something. Support a charity like the Marine Memorial at usmcmemorialfoundation.org or go out and help veterans in some way. Buy a dinner for a veteran if you see them in a restaurant. Do something. Take action to thank them because they took action for your freedom.
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Absolutely. And and certainly buying dinner is or picking up a tab is a great idea. But also to financially support the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation is so important. And getting to know you, Paula, and all of the veterans going to Normandy with the World War Two guys. um drew dix and down at the center for american values it's really changed my life and uh it gives me inspiration to engage in this battle of ideas that is raging in our country uh and it'll and it almost goes to the quote that i have for the end of the show and that is when i say at the end of america's veteran stories but isaac newton said it as well that we stand on the shoulders of giants and we need to stop, reflect, and recognize that. So I thank you for all the great work that you do, Paula Sarles.
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Well, thank you very much for your support. And to all your viewers, thank you for your support.
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And again, you can get more information about the event on November 8th by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Paula, we will talk with you next week, and thank you.
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Thank you.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our Web site. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com and sign up for our voters guide. There's a red ribbon at the top of the Web site and you can click on that. Put in your name and your email and we'll send you a link. And we want you to be informed voters as you're making these decisions. So hopefully the voters guide will be helpful for you on that. And then also regarding school boards, transformcolorado.org is a great resource for that. And then regarding your city council and mayor races, I gave you some questions to ask your candidates and reach out to your city clerk and get their contact information and then reach out to them and ask them those questions. And it is Wednesday, so it is a Trent Luce Wednesday. He is a sixth-generation farmer and rancher from Nebraska. And we continue to talk about the important people that feed and fuel us. And Sean Pond was on last week, a Montrose County commissioner. He said, feed, fuel, and fire us. And I liked that as well. So, Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
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Good morning. A little tent of winter coming in, Kim.
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I know the wind chill is like at 18 degrees here. And this happens so quick. I said in Colorado, the weather can change so quickly that you can wear your snow boots and your swimming suit on the same day. And that's kind of what this kind of weather is. First thing, Trent Luce, I saw a headline that troubled me, and that is that John Deere is moving a big operation from Iowa to Mexico. And I thought we were trying to bring business back to the United States, so talk to me about this.
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Well, when your largest shareholders, a guy named Bill Gates, anything goes. And the sad part of this whole story is, and I don't know which plant it is, I believe they're going to move all manufacturing out of the United States as a plan. But their profitability comes in collecting farmers' data and selling that and sharing that and doing what they do with that. And continuing to put it on the Microsoft Azure cloud, reminding you that Bill Gates is the largest shareholder at 21 million shares, I just have lost all respect for John Deere and what they're actually doing to the farm community.
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I know. And as you know, I come from a long line of farmers, people that work with their hands, and we've always loved that green paint. In fact, I've got a little kid's tractor, a John Deere tractor, And these icons of of America, John Deere. Last week, we were talking about the NFL. My friend and sponsor, Susan Harris, has brought up the the point that the NFL, though we look at the NFL and the Super Bowl because we're talking about the halftime entertainment thing. we've looked at those as American icons, but she said she thinks the NFL is trying to go global, and that's why they have these goofy halftime entertainers. This one's Bad Bunny, who looks like his lyrics don't really celebrate the human spirit whatsoever. And I love the fact Turning Point is going to have an alternative. But we think these things are American, and they're trying to go global, right?
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I don't know if you've actually had a conversation with a farmer, because I do not have John Deere equipment, never have. But I continue to talk to friends, and particularly at important times of the year like right now in harvest. And if something happens with the tractor as you're using a grain cart to get corn or soybeans away, typically corn, away from the combine to the truck to get it to the bin or wherever you're going to store it, and you have some issue happen, You can't just fix it. You have to call John Deere. And in many cases, I'm told, I had one the other day told me, they said it would be 10 days until we could get there to fix it. And then a little thing that my buddy Kevin Kinney in Grand Island, Nebraska, could fix for like $1,500, John Deere will charge you $14,000 to fix it because they've got to hook it all up to the computer system. And it just flies in the face and everything, what you just described, I think it was perfect. This should be the greatest picture of Americana you can find, and in fact, it's just the opposite.
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Yeah, and 10 days at harvest time, that's big money for a farmer.
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You don't have 10 hours. 10 days is huge. And so, I mean... And what I mean by that is that we're coming on November 1st, and every day there's a snow that's getting closer. And what snow does to these crops in the field when they're not out, you have literally 10 hours to get it done. So in that case, you have no choice but to find another combine to borrow, to rent, to do something with, or... Here's what's really growing that nobody wants to talk about is this whole black market of people who will come and bypass a computer and fix your combine without, and that's illegal. It's blatantly illegal. How can that be illegal to have somebody come and fix your combine?
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Yeah, it should not be illegal. That is a real freedom question. And connect the dot, Trent Luce, of why people in the urban corridors should worry about this whole thing with John Deere and the farmer.
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Well, because there's twofold. Number one, it's a domestic supply of food, and we need to maintain our domestic supply of food, period, for national security. Number two, what they practice and make perfect on the farmer, it's not a lot different with your own automobile, and any of these new automobiles are fast getting to the same exact spot. So it extends to every segment of our society, even though it starts with the farmer.
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Well, it really does, and it all comes down to freedom. And we have taken for granted an abundant and reliable, affordable food source when we go to the grocery store, and that is getting more and more tenuous. I want to move over to your thoughts about the SNAP benefits and that they might go away. Gammy had texted me, and I hadn't thought about it, that if they go away because of the government shutdown, that there could be chaos because one of the first things in a society of people are going hungry, that people get very restless. So what's your thoughts about this whole SNAP benefit thing?
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First of all, I do not believe in any subsidy in any way, shape or form, including SNAP. But when you have 15% of your population that has come completely reliant and dependent upon a government handout, and that government handout is not there, there will be chaos. And actually, I believe that that was the intended cause. And I'm just going to put this in the farmer mentality. I don't have an animal that if I feed it at a certain day, It won't show up to eat every single day. I don't need to put it in a pen. I don't need to have a gate on the pen. The animal will continue to show up. And if I don't feed it, what's it do? It's going to knock stuff around and cause chaos because it has become dependent upon me providing for it every single day. And the human being is no better. In fact, the chaos and the anger will be worse in the human being. And it will be ugly.
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So you and I both agree that we need to wean our society off of subsidies, tax incentives. We need to get back to people earning their living. Now, Trent, I think that we all agree, and all of these government programs are under the guise of compassion, of helping people. But they become bureaucracies. And just for example, homelessness in Denver. Senator Hickenlooper, the mayor of Denver at the time, he had said that we will eradicate homelessness. Give us more government money. We will eradicate that. Oh, no, no, no. It is well over $100 million programs now. And all these bureaucrats that make their living off of this tragedy of homelessness, they will never solve the problem, because if they did, their gravy train goes away. And so we've got to get people in elected office that will make the hard decisions to start to require Americans to wean ourselves off of all of this government stuff, whether or not it's SNAP, farm subsidies. Tax credits for transmission lines. And you and I, we know that we've got to do this. Otherwise, our America as we love it will no longer exist, I don't think.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I agree 100%. And I don't know how you do that. I just know that we have to get to that point.
SPEAKER 20 :
So you're ear to the ground. Are these SNAP benefits really going to disappear on November 1st?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Yes.
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SPEAKER 20 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our Web site. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And sign up for a weekly email newsletter while you're at the Web site and download our voters guide as well. These elections are so important. I'm talking with Trent Liu, sixth generation farmer and rancher. We're talking about John Deere, that they have proprietary technology. This is from Mark in Aurora. He said, proprietary technology preventing an owner from maintaining or repairing his own gear is an anti-American abomination, and it's foisted upon us by many of the people in government. And let's see another one. It says 81% of the 2023 Farm Bill went to the stamp program. Farmers only received 19%. It says Walmart is not a farmer. Their share is 25% of the program, which is $315 billion. Thank you, Lynn, for that information. Your comment on that, and then Joe and I are talking about something. Do we have Wendy on the line as well, Joe? Yes. Okay, great. So, Trent, you're – Wendy Volkon, who is a realtor up in Cheyenne, we've been talking about this huge 56,000-acre proposed industrial wind project, so we want to get an update on that. But, Trent, your comment on those two things – I guess Mark is just affirming – and regarding Walmart and the SNAP program. What's your thoughts on that, Trent?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think that was Lynn, correct, Kim? Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
It was Lynn. Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Lynn was spot on. You know, for years, this has been a big discussion within the farm community. Seventy five to 80 percent of the total farm bill goes into welfare programs for food stamps and SNAP and different programs like that. And we always got blamed, we being the agricultural community across the board, got blamed for receiving such a big chunk of money when 81% was actually going to supplemental nutrition and assistance programs. But the other side of the argument would be, well, if we don't keep it within that system, then we'll never get any attention whatsoever. I just want the whole thing to go away. But I want to repeat what we said before. If you do it like we're planning to do it here... Particularly at a time when you mentioned homelessness, at a time when winter is coming in, it will bring about hardship, and hardship will bring about chaos. But here is a classic case of where government creates a problem, and then they turn around and come in and try to pretend to be a solution for the problem. We've got to move beyond all of that.
SPEAKER 20 :
We really do. And so we need to wean ourselves off of this. And then Yvonne texted this in. Again, the text line is 720-605-0647. She said she believes it is intentional in order to get the dependent masses activated to riot. The left will take food away from people they feed to cause the chaos that they require. I think she's got a really good point, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, finally, Yvonne said something I agree with.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think you guys agree quite often.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't think we've had anything we haven't agreed on. Although on one of my other programs this morning, I found Teresa Platt, who I always agree with on everything, except for today. And this ties into what we're about to talk to with Wendy, too. I am adamantly opposed to easements. When you sign an easement on your property, you are giving control to somebody else who you don't know control of your property. It's no longer your property. And we're moving into this era where people think they need to sign an easement to protect green space or to put a wind turbine or to do anything on your property. You are signing away your property rights, and we're doing it at an accelerated rate. Some people... as a means of final try to survive. And this is just another part of government control that we've got to get away from.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, and that's why we have these conversations. So I'm pleased to have Wendy Volk on the line with us. And she is a realtor in Cheyenne. And one of our listeners, Jenny, had reached out regarding this huge industrial wind project that was next to their land. They didn't find out about it until this last June. And they were able to get information out to... the community and the commissioners. I can't remember now, Wendy, did they deny the permit or what happened exactly? So Wendy Volk, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning, Kim and Trent. Good morning. What ended up happening was we did receive notice. It was public notification by certified mail that there was going to be an industrial project near our property. It was going to be a 56,000-acre wind project, the majority of it on two private landowners' property, and of the 56,000, 6,000 acres were going to be state land it was going to be 170 turbines and what was most concerning is the map they gave to the adjacent property owners or people within one mile of the project was on an eight and a half by 11 piece of paper showing our entire county and then a postage size stamp wind project And then when they enlarged it, it still didn't identify who the neighbors are that might be impacted. So, you know, then fast forward when the 60-day public hearing came before our planning commission, the planning commission, after hearing hours of public comment, and it was all in a very civilized, very, very... I was really proud of our community of speaking out, whether in favor of the project or opposed to the project. And then the following, and so the planning commission decided to postpone voting on a decision until after our state had their industrial permit process. And then the following week, our county commissioners Totally a different process, totally different group of people. They again heard hours of public testimony along with the company, and they had two rows of people representing the company sitting in the audience and speaking. And the county commissioners voted one commissioner in favor of supporting the project and three opposed. And we were floored. We had not seen a project like this be denied. And so then the county attorney submitted to the company a list of what the reasons of why the commissioners voted to deny the permit. And we're going to wait and see what the company may or may not do next. They may choose to start the process for their industrial permit with the state. And that deadline would be this Friday on Halloween. and then that would go before that process and that permit would be heard in the end of january or they could wait for another deadline you know later but i think what we're seeing is large projects of this magnitude are being the permitting is being fast-tracked it really feels like and i can see and hear about how fast these this type of a project was progressing and i didn't feel it was fully transparent i didn't feel like as neighbors We understood until we really raised awareness and getting better maps and identifying where our property was. So right now the project is on hold. And we're now also reaching out to learn about our other neighbors north of our community in Chugwater have also a similar size industrial project that's on 50,000 acres for wind, solar, and a battery storage facility.
SPEAKER 20 :
And what's the status of that particular project, Windy Vogue? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
They went through the process going through the state permit process. There's kind of two routes a company can take when they do a large industrial wind or solar type project. In the case of our community, the company chose to go through the county first in Platt County, where Chugwater is situated. It is just 40 miles north of Cheyenne, where we are. And so that one, because of the magnitude of it and the community, they decided to go through the state process. And so I went ahead and I downloaded the permit. It's 2,548 pages. And although I killed a tree... I've only gone through the first 400 pages, but there's another reason to have people get actively involved in reading these things and taking the time to question, does it make sense? What are we giving up? There are going to be 150 wind turbines, and I don't remember how many large solar panels there will be, but It just it's looking at the scale of a 50,000 acre project that's, you know, two and a half times the size of Cheyenne's landmass. And it would, you know, blanket 100 with 150 of these turbines. It's going to impact a lot of people, whether it's the people that the private property owners that own it. And then there's also some state land, just like what was the project in our community. But. It's dividing that small community in a big way about either in support of the project or in opposition of the project.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and now I'm drawing a blank on the gentleman's name that I had on the show from Ohio, where, again, no pun intended, but they got wind of actually, I think, a huge solar industrial project that was going to go in across right next to their land. And they organized and was able to stop it because they they talked about how that really would affect rain runoff and how it really affects the land. And that's the other thing that we've got to really think about is looking into the future. When these projects have gone through their lifespan on it, what happens then to the land? How can that be put back to the way it's supposed to be? What's your thoughts on that, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 11 :
It'll never be put back the way it's supposed to be. Each wind turbine has 1,350 tons of concrete. There's 1,600 tons of total material on each turbine. From a solar standpoint, my friend Hank Vogler, who runs 10,000 U's in Nevada, this week we're talking about they're proposing a new solar establishment on what is currently an alfalfa field. And I just repeat, and in my own county this week, they approved a solar panel project on the northern end of the county. All of this after August 19th, Brooke Rollins, USDA, saying, effective immediately, no more farmland will go into these projects. And it's happening all the time. And they went to Hank Vogler because they said, Hank, we want to put this solar project here in White Pine County, Nevada. And Hank has 10,000 sheep. And he said, we want you to come and explore grazing your sheep because that's one of the selling tools. I've seen it in the counties that I've testified is that it doesn't remove it from agriculture. We can still graze sheep or goats. And Hank went and he said, there is no way you're going to have anything there worthy of grazing if you put these solar destructive units on top of them. And so that's just another one of their lies. I do want permission to pick on Wendy for a minute because I never do that, but I'm going to.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Wendy, I'm doing this with trepidation. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, Trent. There should be no trepidation. She said that she killed a tree by printing off these 2,500 pages. Did you not say that, Wendy?
SPEAKER 07 :
I did. It was a large sum of paper, but I did double-side it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Okay. But we have had that ingrained in our head that it is against the tree to have a piece of paper. The tree is going to die. And we had a logger go in there and remove this tree, found a consumptive use for the tree, which we as people use the pulp, the product of the tree. And somebody planted a new tree there, maybe two trees that are growing. And I think that that was just my fun way of picking on Wendy, but yet explains how we've had so many things ingrained against us, the true cycle of life.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and to that, I've thought, you know, Amazon is scary, but it's also pretty amazing that you can order something and have it delivered. But I thought about all of the packaging that goes into that. And I find it so interesting that just to what Wendy said, that we have been conditioned to not have paper. That's why we've been encouraged to do everything online online. And I realized that I really do like paper. This is a spoiler alert. I actually do not use an electronic calendar. I use an old thing. Wendy, you may not know what they are. It's called a day timer. I don't know if you've ever heard of those or not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. And I had a roll with it.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think you slammed it worse than I did.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I'm 60 years old. You know what a day timer is? Yeah, I had one when I worked for Bank of America. Yep.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. We're talking with Trent Luce and Wendy Volk about citizens getting involved and trying to find transparency in things. And I agree with Wendy. Sometimes having that piece of paper in front of you so that you can go through it is so important. And in fact, I'll tell you a little story when we come back. I want to make sure I don't forget that about paper. And when I was on city council and again, I'm talking with Trent Luce and Wendy Volk, but did want to mention Jody Henze and her colleagues have a great event that is coming up on Friday, November 7th, and it's women and wealth. And it's a great connecting event. And it's they're going to be doing watercolors and you can RSVP. by reaching out to Jody. It's J-O-D-Y at MintFS, so mintfinancialstrategies.com. They have just a few spots left. So if you'd like to connect with Jody and some other great women, be sure and RSVP to that. And we are certainly blessed with amazing sponsors. If you've been injured, you'll want to make sure that you reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. I wanted to mention the two nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis. And the first is the USMC Memorial Foundation. We talked with Paula Sarles earlier today about their event on November 8th. And then also the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And they do amazing work. So support them as well. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. I have Wendy Volk on the line. She is a realtor in Cheyenne and just so thoughtful. And she got informed on what was happening and then let other people know about it. And they were able to stop an industrial or the permitting at the county level for of an industrial wind project of about 56,000 acres. And so it's so important that we take heart from that for what just one person can do. And Trent Luce is on the line as well. Before we get back to our conversation, this came in from Kevin. Trent, this was regarding John Deere. It says, is not being enforced. Why I tried to get software and the dealer flat denied us, but Colorado is the only right to repair bill for agriculture. So two things there. Colorado is supposed to be a right to repair, but the dealer is denying them. Anyway, just a quick comment on that, Trent.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I don't have much to comment on that because it's self-explanatory. Why is that not being enforced? People need to ask that question in a very loud way. I do have one thing I want to add because you brought up the Amazon. And this is the world they want us to live in where the haves do not let us, the peasants, have anything other than the bare minimum. The United Nations is going to have their COP Global Summit on Climate Change in Brazil, November 17th, 18th, and 19th. I think both of you are very aware of that. I wonder how many people know that they are clearing up to 20,000 acres of Amazon rainforest to build a brand-new four-lane highway to get people to this event to talk about not cutting down trees.
SPEAKER 20 :
And Yvonne texted and said, trees are a renewable resource. And then let's see here. Jenny said this. She said, have Joe look up GDPCOOP.com, I think. Oh, no, that's something different. I was looking at those letters. Okay, Wendy and Trent, when I was on city council, we all were given an iPad. I didn't have an iPad. I had my little computer, my personal computer for what I did. So we all had an iPad, and they would download all the meeting agendas and all of the papers and all of that. And so we were working off of our iPads. But what I realized is things could get changed or I wouldn't have a hard copy of some of these things that were being proposed. So I was then printing off my city packets and I thought, well, wait a minute. Why am I doing that? I should have staff just provide that for me. So I asked to be provided, because I noticed the mayor, who really was, as I look back, was really pushing World Economic Forum agendas, I noticed that he always had paper. So I thought, well, I'm going to ask staff that I could have the packet and paper as well. And they said, no, you can't. It's just too much time and paper. And I said, but the mayor gets it. And they said, well, you know, that's just the way it is. I said, okay, well, I think that I'm going to bring this up in public at the meeting and make a motion that I would be able to get my packet in paper. And they said, okay, we'll go ahead and take care of it. We'll give you the paper. But I just thought that was super interesting. And then because I was a burr in the saddle of the mayor, And I did not run for re-election. Basically, the day after the election, all access to that iPad was gone. So I would not have access to those packets anymore. I just think that's an interesting thing on that. I don't know, Wendy, if you want to make a comment or a trench, you can. Neither?
SPEAKER 11 :
I actually know of a county in Kansas, Republic County, Kansas, that approved a WEN development system. Without a printed copy of the conditional use that it would, it was all digital. And that is a direct violation of every statute in Kansas related to what ordinances and county commissions are supposed to do. People filed a lawsuit and it went nowhere. To your point, that cannot continue. And that move to take us into the digital age creates all types of dangers. And that Wynn Development Center is there today.
SPEAKER 20 :
And so that's why being able, as Wendy did, to download that and to go through it. Now, this other one, Wendy, you said it's 2,500 pages. It doesn't take 2,500 pages to stand for freedom. Normally, those many pages can indicate, to me, just off the top, great concern. Your thoughts on that, Wendy?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, I understand the depth that they're doing, you know, wildlife mitigation studies because there's wildlife that is significantly impacted with large industrial projects, and they need to look at traffic studies. And as a real estate agent and a layperson, being able to read some of these traffic studies is impossible unless you really understand turning radius information on these intersections. But as just a citizen driving these roads, I know the roads. I know, you know, can you take a horse trailer? Can you take a U-Haul? Can you take a semi-truck around corners? And can you get a moving truck to and from these properties? So when you take it and you... you know, expand it to the scale of what these projects are. You know, when you see a report that's 2,500 pages and there's 22 projects of this size is what I've been told coming at Wyoming. And so the people that are appointed to being on our industrial siting council, you know, some of them are attorneys, some of them are ranchers, some of them are real estate agents. They could be any number of professions. But the time it takes to go through adequately a 3,000-page application and be able to intelligently make a decision in favor or against a project, that's, I think, the real thing is every community, every state has to ask ourselves that fundamental question is what kind of state or what kind of community do we want to be? And Wyoming has got a long history of energy development. So no matter how we look at it, whether it's current day with the different types of projects like the wind and solar projects, we have to just remind people I value stewardship and balance and respect for my community and those that live in the community because we're going to have to live with these consequences. There's a big difference between responsible development and reckless overreach.
SPEAKER 20 :
You've really nailed it. This is a fascinating conversation. We're just about out of time. Wendy Vogt, thank you. And this thoughtful consideration is so important. And also, these... These appointed boards, I have great concern about that, making decisions. We need to make sure it's our electeds that are making decisions. But also, they need to be reading all of the legislation. They need to be reading all of these things that are being passed. They can't give permits to 2,500 pages of something. They have got to read it, and that should slow the process down. Wendy Volk, as always, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Kim. Thanks, Trent.
SPEAKER 20 :
And Trent, as always, we've got 15 seconds. What's your final thought?
SPEAKER 11 :
All the things we talked about today only happen when enough of the people say, we will not accept this anymore. We need accountability and people to represent the will of the people. Until we do that, they will continue to get away with what they're doing.
SPEAKER 20 :
And the will of the people has to be within the confines of the Constitution as well, and that is liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. Trent Luce, we'll talk with you next week. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks, Kim.
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Join Angie Austin and Jim Stovall as they delve into the profound impact of habits on our lives. Discover how making good habits can set you on autopilot towards success, while breaking bad habits requires strategic replacements. Jim shares personal anecdotes and insights into habit formation, making this a must-listen for anyone aiming to improve their lifestyle. In another segment, dive into the importance of teen driver safety with James Bell. Learn about the Brakes program inspired by Doug Herbert's personal tragedy, which emphasizes responsible driving among teenagers. From understanding the dangers of distracted driving to mastering the art of avoiding spins, the program is a crucial guide for young drivers navigating today's roads.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Hello there, Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with the Good News. And today we're talking about his column, Genesis of Habit. Hello, Jim.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hello, Angie. I'm excited to talk to you about this because I think it's among the most significant things we've ever discussed.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really? Oh, then I'm very excited about doing that. Let's just dive right into it then. We won't even chit-chat first.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, we succeed in our life by making a handful of good decisions, or we fail by making a handful of bad decisions. And, you know, if you wanted a recipe for failure, I would give you four or five bad habits today, and if you'll follow those, you're getting ready to have a bad life. Well, the converse is true, that if you will follow good habits and create them, you get on autopilot. And it's, you know, so many of the decisions... exercising, investing in your retirement, spending time with your family and your spouse. These are things that should become normal to you, habits to you, very much like brushing your teeth. You just don't even think about it. It just automatically happens. The advantage of a habit is you only have to make the decision one time, and then it becomes a habit, and then you're on autopilot. The other way to go is you have to make the right decision every day or multiple times a day. Now, if you're currently involved in a bad habit, it's hard to quit doing something because... The universe does not like a void. It fills in. So, you know, I remember when I was a little kid, my grandfather quit smoking. He was of that unfortunate generation when they didn't know smoking was bad for you. And then all of a sudden the Surgeon General came out with the warning, and these people had to quit smoking. And it was not easy. Well, I remember he always had a shirt pocket where he kept his cigarettes. And boy, after he quit smoking, he would reach up there. Every two or three minutes, he's reaching up there for his cigarettes. And they weren't there, of course. So what he did is he put gum and mints and various other things in there. And he just changed habits for a while. And that's so much better thing to do. And so if you will think about the behaviors... that are going to get you from where you are to where you want to be, and then you will turn that into a habit, you're on autopilot, and then your future is assured, and you just wait to see what happens.
SPEAKER 04 :
So how do we initially, and I know you just explained that, but this deserves repeating, initially establish the habit? Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you have to get a little bit of a crutch, a little bit of an assist here. Let's say you're going to start working out three times a week.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it's not a habit. That's not going to be easy to do. Now, two or three months from now, it will seem weird if you don't go work out. So in the interim, I highly suggest you either get a trainer. or a workout partner. And they become kind of your accountability until the habit kicks in and does it. And I have found from people that really get serious about it, if you are going to get a trainer, if you will prepay the trainer, wow you show up because hey i paid for this i'm going you know and or you have a you know a friend or a workout partner that you know is going to be there or they're waiting on you and uh you know you you'll do it and then before long it just becomes a habit i mean my friend zig ziglar i remember when he started working out it's just so funny to hear you say that my friend zig ziglar that everyone in the world knows that's one of great things in my life. We met at speaking at an event, and I owe him so much. But he said, you know, we used to tell people with this strained, pained voice that you have to pay the price of success. And he said, in reality, you pay the price for failure. And over a period of time, you will enjoy the price of success. And he talked about when I first started jogging, he said, I went one block and functionally passed out on my lawn. I'm laying on my lawn trying to get some air. And the next day I went one block and a mailbox, then one block and two mailboxes. And I just struggled through this. But then there was a day several months down the line. I was on the road. I was up in the northwest. beautiful beachfront hotel, I'm jogging along the cliff there, and the sun's out, and all of a sudden I realized, man, I am not paying the price for success anymore. I am enjoying the price of success. And that's the way it works. You just get to the point, you realize, this is just a great way to live. But I... I just cannot stress enough the importance of reducing those good decisions to a habit. Otherwise, you've got to make that decision every day. And I used to smoke cigars, and then I realized that was not good for me, and I made the commitment to stop. But I got the cigars out of my house, and I don't allow them in there. Because, you know, when they were sitting over there in the humidor across my office... I had to make a decision every five minutes, am I going to do that or not? If they're not over there anymore, now you don't have to make that decision. They're not here. So then I had to replace that with another habit, and it didn't take long until it just seemed normal. But it was not easy in the beginning. And, you know, anybody that tells you getting rid of tobacco is easy has never done it, I can assure you, and I have great respect for people that do that. But, you know, get the accountability, get the guardrails around you so that, you know, you're on autopilot, and then before you know it, You don't need it anymore. It just doesn't matter. It's like when we learned how to ride the bicycle and my dad was running along behind me holding on to the bike and all of a sudden I realized he's not there anymore and I'm actually doing this. And that's the way good habits work.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, it's so funny you bring up bike. We were just in Santa Barbara. We went up and down the coast with Faith and I wanted to show my husband on the West Coast in California some of the cities that I'd worked in that I liked for retirement and Like I like San Diego, Coronado Island, Orange County, California, Santa Barbara, San Francisco. I like but not, you know, to live in. But anyways, we're going through all these cities, right? Well, in Santa Barbara, they've taken State Street now that used to be able to drive up and down. And during COVID, apparently, they closed it down and they have electric assist bikes all along. So call me cheap, Jim, but I have a hard time. Like if you have a family of five or six because we travel sometimes with grand grand and an excursion on a cruise ship is crazy. you know, $200 each, we're talking 1200 bucks. Well, I got the cruise last minute. So you're almost paying for an excursion what you paid for the whole cruise, right? And I just can't bring myself to do it. So I try to figure out something else to do. So we see these electric bikes. And I'm like, Oh, how fun because I want to see the Santa Barbara courthouse and I want to, you know, go look at some of the old buildings. You know, they've got a lot of, you know, homes that were built there in the 1800s. And so anyway, just grab the bike, right? And then Faith, my 16-year-old, says, oh, my gosh, I can't believe you can ride a bike. And I'm like, I don't think you forget unless you completely lose your balance. You know, granted, Jim, I did go up some hills because I had to get – I wanted to drive to the university, a ride. I mean, I did use the electric assist, which, by the way, have you ever – well – Have you driven with someone on a tandem bike with electric assist? Because if you don't know Jim, Jim is blind. So have you done it?
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Yeah, I actually own a bicycle for two, but it's side-by-side. Imagine a golf cart. Oh, I love it. And it's got an electric assist. And I found the bike when I was out in San Diego, and they had them on the island where I was speaking. And I said to find out where they buy these, and I'm buying one. And I got one, and for many years I rode that bicycle.
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um three times a week and would go and the assist was really amazing and um it is isn't it i mean because then because people were stopping on the hill that had a regular bike and of course you know i could i still stood up to give myself a little bit of extra power but um yeah it is really cool because you can still you know put some effort in but it kind of just assists you yeah yeah and it and it doesn't do a lot it just does enough to get you over the hill Yes, it's perfect. Yeah. And boy, when you're biking in Santa Barbara, I mean, it's really paradise. They really call it the California Riviera. I mean, it really is quite a beautiful spot. But anyway, so we rode bikes while we were there. That was really neat. But my daughter was just astounded. that I could ride a bike. Not so much my husband because he's younger than I am and, you know, he's 6'6 and thin and goes to the gym all the time. But when you mention habit, we do family gym night and they usually lift and I walk and use resistance bands. And when Hope left for college, she was like one of our big, you know, motivators to get to the gym every night. It used to be all of us. And then Riley left for college. And when Hope left for school, it really changed our habit because we She knew that we, quote unquote, had to go. And so she knew that her dad wouldn't let her out of it because she was getting ready to go play her college sport. And so she'd be the one prompting us because she wanted to do something else. Faith, not so much. So we've had to get my husband and I into our own habit. We're independent of the kids now to go on our own, but it has become such a habit that we do still want to go even if they aren't there with us. Oh, by the way, just an aside, I don't know if I sent anything to you, but Hope was in the paper in her little town in Tennessee. She had 20 kills in one game, which is pretty astounding. And then she was named like, I don't know, like player of some tournament or something like that. They put her in the paper. So that was the first time for her that she'd ever been put in the paper. But it was just really sweet because they they make a big deal out of their college athletes in this Tennessee town. And it was very sweet for her to see some of the payoff. Oh, and then four kills on her team. The seniors play the most, but she's a freshman that is in the rotation all the time. And so she's number two on the team for kills and not far behind one of the 22-year-old seniors. And she just turned 18. So who knows what she'll be like when she's a senior. So I guess my point to that is all of these habits of working out and the lifting and everything, the power that she's been able to generate from these years of habits of going to the gym together, it's paying off.
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Yeah, it does. And she would be happy to know, as would you, on my satellite radio every day, they have the schedule of all the football, basketball, baseball, and everything I listen to. And they now have a radio broadcast that I can get across the country of women's college volleyball. And it's really, really fun. And it is so much fun that, you know, they have the announcer and they call, you know, and it is really good. It's fast paced. It's fun. And, you know, I've tuned into several of those.
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It's interesting because in high school, I don't know, basketball takes quite a bit of skill and you can't just run out there in high school and pick up basketball when you've never done it before because there's the dribbling and there's the shooting and there's the defense and then there's the different plays. But volleyball, my daughter picked it up at 15 and is playing in college, which is relatively late for someone that's playing in college. And they have some semi-professional teams now, I guess, and they're building some stadiums. I don't know. It's getting popular enough that they're starting to make this a thing where you can go and watch and you can play semi-professionally here or maybe even professionally. I know overseas it's a little bit bigger. And I'm a little bit torn on what they're doing with the NAIA, which my daughter is in. A lot of the Christian schools aren't like a Division I, II, or III. They're an NAIA school. And, um, she, you can be, I think up to around 30. So these girls overseas that are, you know, 26, 27, 28 that have played volleyball professionally or semi-professionally come over and they played a couple of teams that really were international teams from all over the world that were significantly older than my daughter. And I'm not saying I don't believe everybody should have an opportunity to play college sports, but when you've got the U S kids that are 18, 19, like 18 to 22, basically coming out of high school, um, And then you have the girls coming over from Poland and Serbia and Italy and South America. And they're women that are really strong players. I mean, let's just say with a couple of these teams, they didn't stand a chance.
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You know, I experienced the same thing when I was on the Olympic team. You know, here in America, it was all amateur. And, you know, you were on your own with a coach and struggling. And then you get these European and Asian teams where you're Frankly, they're professional athletes. They may have called it they're a major in the Army or something, but let's not kid ourselves. They were there to compete. They were older. They had a lot more experience. It gave us an awful lot to shoot for. And but then, you know, when they opened it up to our professionals, you get the dream team and you got Magic Johnson and Larry. Yes. And then then the world changes.
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Yes. Well, Jim Stovall, it is always a pleasure. And we are out of time. Jim Stovall dot com. Thank you, friend. Thank you.
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Well, if you are just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. Did you know that eight teens in the U.S. are killed in car crashes each day? I was surprised to learn that car crashes are the number one cause of death for teenagers. And so if that's the leading cause here in the U.S., I've got three teens, so that makes me a little nervous. There's a safe driving program that aims to change the statistics and give new drivers the tools they need to stay safe. And this is National Teen Driver Safety Week. And joining us is James Bell, head of corporate communications for Kia America. Welcome, James.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, thank you so much for having me on. This is, as you just well said, very important topic. So important that we get this out there.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, we had just recently a motorcycle accident right down the street from us at the high school where my kids go, and it was one of my daughter's friends. I've got three teens, as I mentioned. And anyway, the boy who just graduated with my daughter and then the girl who was still in high school, they both died. died immediately and we were just so distraught it was like you know like oh kids the the you know the streets closed down by the school and then we're hearing motorcycle accident and i'm thinking you know you know 20 something young man or something and i was just devastated and then my son someone pulled in front of him just one year ago actually today um and uh it was a a They turned right in front of him, and anyway, he totaled his car, and the adult in the other car said, oh, you know, it was the kid's fault. Well, thank goodness for those cameras, right, because it was actually 100% her fault. And so that really, of course, helped us to have the camera because, you know, of course, then my son wasn't at fault. I do put them in safe driving classes, but I think the one that we're going to talk about today comes about for a rather interesting reason. So let's just start there in general, you know, what you're doing for us during National Teen Driver Safety Week. Yeah, so yeah, you made a great point.
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Not only is this, you know, a daily or an hourly calamity, but it's Most importantly, it's things that can be probably avoided. A vast majority of the teen deaths or inactions that happen are completely unavoidable. because they're connected to bad driving habits. They're not paying attention to, you know, the level or they don't have the level of maturity, I should say, for making the good decision, the underexposed decision all the time. And so it's a very difficult thing. And because these can be avoided, that's where the BRAKES program that Kia is proud to partner with came about. And it's why we're i mean let's put it this way my own daughter's been through the program and knock on wood she's had a good couple years of driving since then so i feel like it's uh it's personally and professionally gratifying that kia is deeply involved in this no i read that um a drag racing star uh actually was involved in getting this going can you tell us a Doug Herbert, I'm happy to say I've spent a lot of time with Doug. He's a tremendous man. He and his family are great people. He made his fame and fortune as an NHRA drag strip driver, strapping himself into a car and teasing death, if you will, every time he did 300 miles an hour at full throttle down these racetracks. The sad irony in this is while he had that background, He had two teenage age boys, sorry, sons, that about a mile from their house had a single car accident and were both killed. And for Doug, you know, again, for him making his living driving at the full extreme to then have his sons die, again, less than a mile from home, it was just too much to take. So he and his wife Mimi dedicated themselves from that point forward to providing some degree of assistance, some extra education, things that he wishes his sons had gone through. And, you know, it's really about finding that line between, oh, driving is fun and driving is real and driving is serious. And the Brakes program, I think, does a fantastic job.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so tell us a little about the Brake Safe Driving Program. I know now why it was created, part of the reason, but I know from driving with my teenagers, they don't slow down for red lights. It drives me nuts. I mean, I'm like, why are you still on the accelerator? And there are like stopped cars in front of us. Why are you still on the accelerator? And I have to be honest with you, and some people may think I'm too much of a micromanager. I track them on an app, so I see all their hard brakes. I see all the fast starts. I see every route they take. And I also see when they speed and for how long they speed. And the funniest thing, well, this isn't funny, but I saw a bunch of donuts in the local park last winter. And there were circles and circles and circles. And I was like, oh, my gosh, my son was doing donuts in the park in the snow on the grass, like in the park. And so I showed him all these circles. Right. And I go, what is this? And he looks at it. He sees circle after circle after circle. I mean, how can you deny that? Right. It's so great. We can track them now. But tell us a little bit more about the program.
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Yeah, well, you know, you talk about slowing down before red lights. I wish my wife would listen to you on that. She seems to keep going and wearing out those brakes much more than necessary. Yeah, so the program is multi-level. It teaches kids, again, to have responsibility and discipline. get them a head start on the maturity of the many decisions that we face as drivers, you know, facing not only changing weather and traffic conditions, but other drivers as well. There's two particular parts of the curriculum which I think really resonate. One of them is that we put plastic tires on the rears of the car to help teach teen drivers how to, you know, steer themselves out of a spin. Now, your son, he was doing it on purpose. But the point of the story is sometimes we end up in a car that's sliding, and so there are ways to mitigate that. But when you have a car with plastic tires, I don't care if you're Mario Andretti, you're not able to mitigate that. The car will continue to slide around. And so I think that is a really important lesson. Not only is it kind of thrilling and fun, but it also reinforces for a teen driver that there are some circumstances that cannot be beat. So the point of the story is let's not put ourselves in that circumstance. That's the real learning there. And then the other one I think is really fascinating is they'll have the drivers out on the closed course going around cones. And if one of the If the instructor notices that the driver seems to be relaxed and confident, he or she will reach into their pocket, take out their phone and say, oh, look, I just got this funny picture on my phone. And if the driver looks at it, they failed that part of the class.
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Oh, my goodness.
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feeling a little bit, you know, death-defying and pushing boundaries. But then they also have the impact of social media and the constant connectivity. And so, you know, distracted driving is just as much of a killer, if not more, than traffic, you know, weather patterns and things of that nature. So it's a really great course. And, again, it's just built to kind of put a teen driver in their place and recognize that, Driving is a dangerous thing. You know, today's cars are so quiet and safe and comfortable. I mean, cars today have, you know, ventilated seats with massagers built into them. They're wonderful. But things can happen quickly. And that's the point of the brakes program.
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I love the idea of the, you know, knowing how to get out of a spin. I don't know if I would know that. And when my kid was doing these donuts, it was obviously in snow. You know, he was in the snow. And when I get into a situation like that, I don't know that I would really be that great at getting out of that. So what a great thing for the kids to learn. What are, James, the main causes of crashes in the U.S.? ?
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Well, amongst teen drivers, it's just, you know, lack of confidence in the tough situation or lack of skill set to recover. But more importantly, or more often, it's just things that are necessary. You know, teens are often in cars with other teens. Maybe one is the lucky one that has a car or one is the lucky one whose parents will let them borrow the family car. So they're taking them to the movies. They're taking them to the high school football game. They're the kind of driver, if you will. And so not only are they immature drivers for themselves, but now they also have the additional responsibility of taking care of the others in the car. So it always boils down to, in teen driving situations, just bad decisions. That is the primary problem we have here. In some cases, that's part of the human experience. Teams, you know, we as young adults are made in some ways to push boundaries and find new ways to do things. But when it comes to driving, there's only one way to do it, and that's safely.
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You're talking about bad decisions. Every time I have to drive in that parking lot across the street at the high school, I feel like I'm taking my life in my hands. It's like the way they back out, the way they run through the stop sign, the speed at which they're going to lunch, like it's mind-blowing to me. And it's funny because the SUV my son was in is a really heavy, like an old Lexus SUV. In fact, we brought him home from the hospital in it. And so it's like, I don't know, it's like a 2003 or something SUV. So my other daughter has a 2006. She's like, oh, I got the dumpy car in the parking lot. I'm like, dumpy. I'm like, I was driving that until two years ago. Like, give me a break. I'm like, those things are like tanks, you know, but all these kids have cars, you know, and a lot of them have really nice cars, which is mind blowing to me. My son actually, James, went through I've never in my life. gone through brakes while they were still under warranty so we take his car in and they're like oh yeah it's no brakes but don't worry they're still under warranty and i'm like who goes through brakes while they're still under warranty that's a fair point that that's that's the driver that needs to go through the brakes program Yes, yes. Well, how do kids get involved in the Brakes program? And maybe even mention how Kia, how you all got involved.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. Well, you know, we raise our families in the same places that everybody lives. I mean, while we think our cars are wonderful and very safe and have, you know, the latest in technology at a very fair and affordable price, which is so important, driving habits, you know, they impact us too. We live where you live. Our kids go to school where your kids go to school. So we just thought it would be a responsible thing to not only have the latest in safety technology in our cars, but then also take that next step of helping teen drivers know how to manage themselves better. We think that just makes communities safer and the communities in which we all live. So we felt a responsibility there.
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You know, don't judge me for this, James, OK? But I found that when I have a Tesla, so it goes pretty fast. I don't like them to drive it too much. And I had one of those kids stickers on the back that says, you know, team driver. I have to tell you, I've left it on to their embarrassment because people are so nice to me that when I'm driving, I feel like I'm treated like a queen when I have the team driver thing on. So I left it on my car because people are so courteous.
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Yes. No, I mean, it is a, that's good to know. Because, you know, other people report that there's a lot of crazy road rage out there. And I think it's just because we all keep very tight schedules. We're always moving and grooving. But driving is not a place to let your emotions get the better of you. Not only for yourself, but also for those sharing the road.
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And I do highly recommend attracting your kids the way we have. We even had, like, a deal where if you got a certain number of hard breaks or a certain number of this or that, you'd be financially penalized and lose the car for a week. Like, so they really had an incentive to not be doing the hard braking, fast acceleration, and speeding. All right, I just want to, again, review how people can get involved and get their kids involved in the classes. Where's the best place to go?
SPEAKER 05 :
That'd be to a website called putonthebreaks.org. Again, put on the brakes. There you have a full schedule of all the different events going on around the country. If one isn't in your neighborhood in the near future, it might be worth a pretty valuable road trip. It gives you good time to practice safe habits with your teen in the car, and the experience they'll have is, you know, you can't put a price tag on it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I just want to say thank you for all you're doing to help these kids and the lives that you're saving by getting involved with the program and by doing these interviews as well. Thank you so much. Pleasure's all mine. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
In this enlightening episode of The Flatline, Rick Hughes takes us on a journey through prayers and promises. Join us as we break down the true meaning behind offering thoughts and prayers in times of need, and explore how a relaxed mental attitude can be cultivated even amidst life's trials. Our intense focus on Biblical principles serves as a guiding light, helping believers build a flot line in their souls necessary for enduring life's storms.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around. Just a few minutes of motivation, some information, some education, but no manipulation. Basically, I educate and you evaluate what I said. Thank you for listening. Thank you for hanging in there with us. Every one of these radio shows was going on 17 years now, teaching the flat line all across the United States, 112 different stations, all by the grace of God. We don't try to hustle money. We don't try to solicit money. We obviously have to depend on money to pay for the shows, but that's the Lord's business. Our job is to get it right and get it accurate. So we make you available of all the books that we have available on our website, rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org. Unfortunately, there's another person named Richard Hughes that has a ministry as well. He's in Georgia. If you get him, you got the wrong guy. rickhughesministries.org. There you can find a list of our books, our latest books, all free online. Also, we like to tell you about our podcasts, and you can listen to us on Spotify or Apple iPod. Just type in The Flotline, and you'll find 600 different radio shows there you can listen to. All of our radio shows are transcribed and available to you in transcripts if you'd like to read them. And we'd love to hear from you. If you're listening somewhere, let us know so we'd be encouraged. And we always have to decide what stations to keep and which stations to nix out, and we'd like to know who's listening where. Today we're going to talk about something very interesting, I promise you. It's called prayers and promises. Prayers and promises. And by the way, we do have a new promise book. We've had a promise book for a long time, but we've condensed it and made it smaller. And you can carry it around very easily with you. It's a smaller size and very convenient. And it's packed with hundreds of Bible principles in the back of the book, which are easy to recall. Short principles such as bad decisions limit future options. That's a good principle to always remember. Our human solutions are no solutions. Divine solutions are the only solutions. So these sort of things are in the back of the book, and you can read through them. And you can order this book free from our website, going through the website, rick at rickhughesministries.org. That's our email address. If you want to go to the website, just go to rickhughesministries.org. Or you can call us at 800-831-0718. 800-831-0718. Now, speaking of prayer, have you ever heard somebody say what I'm about to tell you? I bet you have, like me. Have you ever heard someone say, our thoughts and our prayers are with you? That old typical thing. Our thoughts and our prayers are with you. It's a modern way of saying you have our sympathy. Well, you know, I got to thinking about that. And what exactly does that mean? Our thoughts and our prayers are with you. Our thoughts. What are they talking about? Our thoughts. Does that mean we are thinking about you for a minute or two? Not much more than that. Or maybe they're thinking they're glad it happened to you and didn't happen to them. So exactly what kind of thoughts are they referring to? Our thoughts and our prayers go with you. Just a couple of minutes, I think about you, and I move on down the road and think about something else. I know the Bible teaches the key to the right way to think. It's called a relaxed mental attitude, an RMA. And this is part of building a flat line in your soul. When you build that flat line, have those 10 unique problem-solving devices taught in the Word of God, you can adapt an RMA. It's found in Isaiah 26, verse 3. There the Bible says you will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you because he trusts in you. You will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you because he trusts in you. It is possible to have peace in the middle of a conflict, to have an RMA, that's what it means, perfect peace, to have an RMA, a relaxed mental attitude. You're not uptight, you're not worried, you're not afraid, you're not bitter, you're not antagonistic. And how do you do that? Whose mind is stayed on you. Whose mind, M-I-N-D, that's the noose part of the mentality of your soul. Your soul has a noose and your soul has a cardia, a mind and a heart. And the mind is where you assimilate information. The noose and the cardia is where you store and use the information, the heart. So if you want to have the perfect peace that God's talking about, if you stay on him, if you focus on him. So again, you will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you. And that's occupation with Christ for you and I today. Why? Because he trusts in you. And there it is, that's called the faith rest drill. That's problem solving device number three in the flat line of your soul. So whose mind is stayed on you is biblical orientation. That's a problem solving device. And having peace, that's plus eight, sharing the happiness of God. All of this is available to you. And so Paul tells us this in the New Testament, What you and I should focus on during our toe, T-O-E. You say, what's a T-O-E? Time on earth, your toe, your time on earth. In Philippians 4, 8, he says, finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there's any virtue and if there's anything praiseworthy, focus on these things. And it goes right back to Isaiah 26, 23, whose mind is stayed on you. Excuse me. Excuse me. So this is a type of thinking, and it's a mental attitude dynamics, we call it. It's the ability for the believer, such as yourself or me, for us to think under pressure and not let our emotions capture our thoughts. And when someone says our thoughts and our prayers go with you, most of the time they have no idea what that even means. It's just a little way of saying a nice little goody to make you think they feel sorry for you or whatever. So don't fall into the trap of saying something that means nothing. Again, don't fall into the trap of saying something that means nothing, especially to any individual that's facing some sort of disaster in their life. You might try saying this. When I think of you, I remember our times together and I have appreciation for all we've experienced. That's a good thing to say. That's called fragrance of memories. I think about what you are having to endure and I pray that you will be able to glorify God through all of this. That's another thing you could tell them. Much more than our thoughts and our prayers go with you. Tell them what you're thinking. the good times we've had, the experiences we've had, and what you're having to endure, and I'm praying for you. What are you praying? That they will use God's problem-solving devices to handle the situation and not be overwhelmed. I mean, obviously, you can offer physical assistance, you can offer intercessory prayer, and you can help them recall certain verses, certain promises that act as comfort in times of testing because the Bible or Scripture has a calming effect on individuals. So if you have the faith rest drill, problem solving device number three, then you have the potential to have a relaxed mental attitude. So when you say our prayers go with you, what exactly does that mean? Our thoughts and our prayers go with you. What kind of prayers? I believe personally that many prayers go unheard. I believe many prayers go unheard due to the fact that they're doing a right thing, yes, but in the wrong way. Listen to Romans 8, 26. Likewise, the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses, for we don't know what we should pray as we ought to pray, but the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. That's a truth that the Holy Spirit intercedes for you in prayer. That's why we are warned in the Bible as believers not to quench the Holy Spirit. He can't do his job if you do that. 1 Thessalonians 5, 19, do not quench the Spirit. Quench in the Greek New Testament is the word sabinomi, sabinomi. And sabinomi literally means this, to put out the light or put out the torch. This verb is a present active imperative verb in the morphology of the Greek New Testament, and this is a literal command. Don't put out the light. Well, what exactly does that mean? Don't put out the light. Don't quench the Holy Spirit. Don't put out the light. 1 John 1, 5 through 7 says, this is the message we've heard from him, and we declare it to you that God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim we're having fellowship with God and we're walking in darkness, we're lying and we don't live out the truth. But if we will walk in the light as he is in the light, then we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus his Son purifies us from all sin. Walking in the light is you being in fellowship with God. It's you not out of fellowship, not under control of your old sin nature, but in fellowship, under control of the ministry of the Holy Spirit. So look at it this way. If I put you in a room and I turn every light off and it's completely dark, that's what happens when there's sin in your life. You're walking in the darkness. But if you rebound, problem-solving device number one, and confess your sin, you're flicking the light back on and you can see what's going on. So if you're in sin, you're in darkness. If you're in fellowship, you're in light. We're also instructed in the Bible not to grieve the Holy Spirit. So I gave you don't quench the Holy Spirit first. Now don't grieve the Holy Spirit, and this is all about why your prayers will not be answered. We're instructed not to grieve the Holy Spirit in Ephesians 4.30. Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God with whom you're sealed to the day of redemption. The word grieve is an interesting Greek word, lupio, lupio, and it means to cause sorrow. It's a present active imperative, which is a divine command, But you have to understand, this is what's known as an anthropopathism. Big word, I know, anthropopathism. A-N-T-H-R-O-P-O-P-A-T-H-I-S-M. Anthropopathism. What is that? It's giving God a human quality so we can understand the severity of the situation. But actually, God never operates on emotions. So we know that ascribing to them this type of human response of divine appointment is speaking of his unfailing love for us even though we ourselves fail. Our Father does not delight in dishing out divine discipline to his children. But if we sin and we walk in darkness, we don't rebound, we're going to get judgment and discipline. Listen to Genesis 6, 5 and 7. Then the Lord saw the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only on evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that he had made man on the earth and he was grieved, as that word grieved again, grieved in his heart. God is never sorry and God doesn't grieve like we do. So the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I've created from the face of the earth and both man and beast, creeping things and birds of the air. I'm sorry that I made them." Why would God say that? Well, this is the result of a satanic interference in the lives of humans. In Genesis 6, 4, Satan attempted to corrupt the entire human race. And this attempt brought about what's called the flood that destroyed everything living on the earth, except those that were in the ark. In Genesis 7, 21, and all flesh died that moved on the earth, birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth everywhere. So believers like you and I, we can also face divine discipline when we grieve or quench the Holy Spirit. Hebrews 12, five tells us, don't make light of the Lord's discipline. And don't lose heart when he rebukes you because the Lord rebukes or disciplines the people that he loves. And he chastens everyone that he accepts as his son. It is not unusual for the believer to come under divine discipline. Warning discipline, intense discipline, even dying discipline. Warning discipline is when God gets your attention, maybe through a road sign, maybe through a message from the preacher, maybe through something you read in a book. But God will let you know you are out of line and you are in serious trouble if you don't recover. He warns you. And then intense discipline comes when you don't recover. If you continue to stay carnal, if you continue to live in your sin, if you continue to refuse to rebound, Then our Father takes you to the woodshed. Those that he loves, he chastens. Yep, he's gonna scourge you, take you to the woodshed. No pain, no gain, as they say. These mandates are warnings to the believer. Warnings of what? That sin quenches and grieves the Holy Spirit. Thus, anybody that says our prayers and our thoughts go with you, any prayer offered, while there is unconfessed sin in the life of the individual, are literally unprocessed requests. Again, if you pray with unconfessed sin in your life, it's an unprocessed request. I'll give you a perfect example. Let's take Sunday morning in church and Brother Smith, who's the pastor, calls him Brother Jones, who's the deacon. and wants him to come up and pray before the service starts. And Brother Jones comes up and offers this glorious, magnificent, wonderful sounding prayer. Oh God of the heavens and of the earth, how much we love you and et cetera, et cetera. However, before he left the house, He got in an argument with his wife and yelled at his kids and mad driving down because somebody cut him off in traffic. And he got into middle attitude sins. And now he's in church, out of fellowship, grieving and quenching the Holy Spirit, but getting up into the pulpit and offering a prayer, which is a right thing, but it was done in the wrong way. You understand? That prayer will not be answered. It's an unprocessed request. You see, you and I were designed by God to function in our spiritual life under the power of God's Holy Spirit and to be guided by the word of God, our scripture. So when you put the filling of the Holy Spirit, which is problem-solving device number two on the flatline of your soul, When you put the filling of the Holy Spirit with the word of God, the Bible, the scripture, which is Hebrews 4.12 says, alive and powerful, then you have the potential for a dynamic spiritual life that can actually replicate the life of our Lord Jesus Christ during his tow time on earth. So what any believer needs in time of testing Whatever they're going through, when someone says our thoughts and our prayers go with you, what they actually need is to be able to execute the faithless drill. But it's not possible using human energy. It doesn't operate that way. You have to learn what it means to be filled with the Holy Spirit and then to use the faith rest drill or stand on the promises of God. This is how we develop trust in God's plan. This is why we wrote the book of all the promises. It's actually a shortcut to where you might not know them, you might not remember them, but if you go to the book and look up these promises, It's ammunition for you to use in your spiritual life. So if you can stand on the promises of God, God, you said this, and I'm holding you to it. I believe you meant it. I'm trusting you. Then if you trust him in difficult circumstances, you can learn to live a life with an RMA free of stress. not necessarily free of adversity. Adversity is inevitable, but stress is optional. You can live free of worry, you can live free of anxiety, you can live free of depression, but not if you keep sinning, not if you keep creating drama in your life. The Bible contains thousands of promises that you can stand on when times are tough, when times are unbearable. I think there are close to 7,000 promises in the Bible. However, you can only use what you know and you cannot use what you don't know. So how do you access the provisions God has given to you? Well, for example, when Paul tells you in Ephesians 6 to put on the helmet of salvation, what he's referring to is covering your head And that military metaphor is used metaphorically for your thoughts, which is the mentality of your soul. So Satan loves to get into your thoughts, and one of the ways he'll do it is by getting you to doubt your salvation. Maybe you shocked yourself. Maybe you did something you thought you would never do. And now you figure God dumped you since your prayers don't seem to be getting through. But you have forgotten this fabulous promise in Hebrews 13 five. I will never leave you nor forsake you. It's obvious the Lord would not leave you helpless in the devil's world. That's why you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. That's why you have the filling of the Holy Spirit. And that's why you have the canon of Scripture or a Bible. These assets that God gives you allow you to operate behind enemy lines in the devil's world. And don't forget, we are behind enemy lines living in the devil's world. We don't belong here. The Bible says we're sojourners. We're just passing through, that our home is in heaven, or the Greek word, ouranos. So with these assets, these 10 problem-solving devices, particularly Rebound, the Filling of the Holy Spirit, and Faith Rest Drill, then you have the ability to operate behind enemy lines. Now, this new book I prepared, this new addition to the Bible Promises and Principles is a much smaller version than the original book, and it will assist you to recall the scriptures that you will need to use if you're going to claim the Faith Rest Drill. as well as providing you numerous biblical principles in the back of the book. And they're just short one or two line sayings that remind you and help you recall biblical provisions. Principle, here's a great principle to remember. You must be filled with the Holy Spirit to mix your faith in these promises for the faithless drill to be effective. You must be filled with the Holy Spirit to mix your faith with these promises for the faithless drill to be effective. So if you have unconfessed sin in your life, just as if you were trying to pray with unconfessed sin in your life, it won't be answered. If you try to use the faithless drill without being filled with the Holy Spirit, it will not work. It won't work. You must not quench the Holy Spirit. You must not grieve the Holy Spirit. You can't operate in the Christian life using these divine operating assets God gave you out of fellowship walking in darkness. These promises from God, the few that we put in our book especially, are like ammunition to defend yourself with when Satan attacks you, when circumstances close in and it seems to be a helpless, hopeless situation, you have ammunition. You have the ability to go to the scriptures and to claim, God, this is what you said and I'm gonna hold you to it. So when someone says our thoughts and our prayers go with you, maybe they should remind you of a few biblical principles. Maybe they should say, I'm thinking about the wonderful times we've had together and I know you're going through some extremely hard times. Let me give you a couple of verses that may help you to concentrate. These promises are ammunition. So the next time one of your friend needs comfort, try giving them that small book called Biblical Promises and Principles and encourage them to use the faith rest drill, problem-solving device number three. The entire flat line, all 10 problem-solving devices, the entire flat line is God's operational assets for your tow, for your time on earth. But without problem-solving device number one, rebound, and without problem-solving device number two, filling of the Holy Spirit, none of these others will offer you any protection or encouragement. But if you use your divine assets, you will be protected from satanic strategy Which strategy is designed to discourage you and to defeat you in this spiritual warfare we face? Put on the helmet of salvation. Pick up the shield of faith, Ephesians 6 says there, the faithless drill. So you will be able to stand against the strategy of the devil. Satan has a strategy against you. He knows what your weaknesses of your flesh are. He knows what lust you face in your life. And he's good at throwing those things at you, and he's good at throwing doubt at you. If he can discourage you, he can defeat you. So you have to learn to use your problem-solving devices. Because the Bible says in 2 Corinthians 10, 4 and 5, the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing every thought, thought, thought into captivity to be obedient to Christ. This is where you live your Christian life, in your mind. That's why the Bible says, as a man thinketh in his heart, so he is. The real you is not your image. It's not your style. It's not what you're wearing, not your haircut. It's what you're thinking. That's the real you. I mean, you can put on all the beautiful clothes and put on all the good smelling cologne and wear all the jewelry. That's not you. That's what you want people to think. The real you is inside your head and your thoughts. Do you have confidence in the plan of God? Do you know these 10 problem-solving devices? Are you filled with the Holy Spirit? Why should all this take place? First Peter 5.8, be sober. Be vigilant because your adversary, the devil, walks around like a roaring lion seeking who he can devour. In other words, Satan has a target on you. You are a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and you are aka the enemy in the angelic conflict. And he would like nothing better than to disable you and discourage you and defeat you. It's way past time for you to crank it up a notch, isn't it? Isn't it past time for you to begin to advance spiritually more than being on a pace with a snail? That's only gonna happen when you make the decision to do what God tells you to do. That's why we bring it up casually over and over and over again. 2 Peter 3.18, you must grow, grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever. You are mandated to grow in that passage. Grow, that's an imperative mood verb. You're not being asked to grow. You're being told to grow. Well, how do you grow? Under the filling of the Holy Spirit, dissecting, sharing the Word of God as it is taught from the pulpit by a well-qualified pastor. The Bible is not a textbook. It's not designed for you to sit home and read it. I get people all the time that say, I've read the Bible completely through. Well, good for you. Unless you're taught what's in that book, you're never going to grasp the completeness of your spiritual life. I don't care how much you read it. You're going to get concepts, yeah. You're going to pick up principles, yeah. You're going to see promises, yeah. But it's designed to be taught. And why do I know that? Because God gave men the gift of pastor-teacher. Ephesians talks about that. Pastor-teachers, poimen kai didaskalos in the Greek New Testament. Shepherds and instructors is what they're called. Their job is to study and teach us the word of God. Well, I hope you're listening. I hope you're learning. I hope you have a hunger to find that pastor teacher. Until next week, I'm your host, Rick Hughes. I'd like to say thank you very much for joining me this morning and listening to The Flatline.
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In this thought-provoking episode, Carl Jackson steps in for Mike Gallagher to deliver an invigorating review of America's current political climate. From dissecting President Trump's foreign policy maneuvers to discussing the division within the Democratic Party, Carl leaves no stone unturned. He tackles the nuances of political will and its impact on America's global standing. Joining the conversation are engaged callers sharing their perspectives and concerns on leadership, both at home and abroad.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Carl Jackson.
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All right, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. For all of you that are watching on the Salem News Channel, I know you guys are like, man, Mike is handsome, but he looks so handsome with this tan. The truth is, this is not Mike Gallagher. This is Carl Jackson sitting in for Mike, and I'm so thankful to be here. I'm always honored to sit behind Mike's microphone. We've got Tracy Stockwell in studio, Eric Hansen in my ear. We have Christian, and who else do we have again? Eric, forgive me. Alex and Tracy. Okay. All right. So anyway, we got the whole crew with us. Again, Carl Jackson sitting in for Mike. I wasn't sure where I'd start. I'm one of these people. I like to intertwine the news of the day with kind of a macro theme, if you will. And I got to be honest with you, my brain has been spinning all night. And also, I'm a little frustrated. I'm a Dodgers fan. And I came into Tampa last night, pulled into the parking lot, and I was able to listen to the game to the bottom of the ninth inning. And I'm sorry, Tampa, for those of you. I'm sorry. Born and raised a Los Angeles Dodgers fan. I'm sorry. All right. And so the game was tied at the bottom of the inning 5-5. I turn off the radio. I head up to my room. The game is not playing in the room. MLB channel, Fox Sports channel, they're playing poker, they're playing something else. I'm like, okay. I start reading a little bit. I go to sleep and I'm just praying to God that the Dodgers were somehow able to pull it out. Although I suspected that it might go an inning or two more. Lo and behold, I wake up this morning only to find out that the Dodgers won in 18 innings of baseball. Absolutely insane with a walk-off homer from Freddie Freeman. So I'm so sad that I missed it, but I'm still glad to be here with you today. Guys, okay, so let me, you've got a federal employees union that is now saying, hey, listen, this shutdown thing, not working so well, talking to the Democrats. You have President Trump that is gallivanting, thankfully so, around the world, Japan. He came to a deal or actually ended a ceasefire or started a ceasefire, began a ceasefire between Thailand and Cambodia, worked out a trade deal with them. In Malaysia, absolutely, absolutely insane. You have the left still trying to go apoplectic about the ballroom that President Trump is going to be building onto the White House, which I think, frankly, is needed. I have no problem with it. The only thing, I'm not a big fan of a lot of gold. I think when you overdo the gold, it looks a little tacky. That's my opinion. But I think that a ballroom is long overdue in the White House. But those are the things that the Democrats are talking about at least that White House ballroom building and so on, etc. They don't want to talk about what's happening around the world. They don't want to talk about what's happening in the Western hemisphere. There's even some on the right that are complaining about President Trump. Why is he doing all this stuff, all this foreign policy stuff? Why is he doing all this stuff with Venezuela? He's bombing boats. And Mike talked about that yesterday. I'm not going to get in, get in, get into that too deeply today. But just as part of a bigger picture and what President Trump is doing, even in Argentina, I want to talk about Argentina as well. And again, I got a lot on my mind, so I'm going to tie this all together. But but what President Trump is doing is strengthening, strengthening America, his trips to his his trips to Asia. What he's doing in the Western Hemisphere, basically reestablishing the Monroe Doctrine. I believe the last time I was here, I talked to you guys about that, and that's all he's doing. Even with Argentina. Listen, I know our farmers are hurting, and I don't want to minimize that. I'm actually going to be... broadcasting or during a podcast with one of our farmers this Thursday. We'll have it out by Friday talking about the beef issues that we're having here in the United States and what's happening with Argentina. A lot of farmers, a lot of ranchers, I'm sorry, are not happy about that. But also, I understand that what President Trump is doing, this is about pushing China Out of the Western Hemisphere, what he's doing in Venezuela, that's about pushing China out of the Western Hemisphere. What this is doing when he's going to Asia, that is about securing American strength globally. Guys, we can't be the police of the world. I know conservatives say it all. I have a different view on that. Frankly, I believe that God has given us a lot of responsibility, you know, as Americans. No, we should not go out and send troops everywhere and put boots on the ground everywhere. But wherever in the world American interest lies. I'm OK with Trump establishing American strength globally because we do whether we like it or not. I'm not a globalist, but whether we like it or not, the world is acting or reacting in a global fashion, global way. I'm also going to be talking about these three liars in the Democrat Party. whether it is Gavin Newsom, Graham, who was pretending like he was broke. Broke is a joke growing up, so we're going to be talking about that. Also, Graham Platner, the guy that had the swastika or the Nazi emblem tattooed on his chest, only covered it up just within a few weeks ago, and more on Ma'am Danny and his aunt because he totally lied about his aunt. I'm sure you guys have heard about that, but I want to get into that as well. But I'm going to say something a little controversial, and I'm just getting started. So we got a long show ahead of us. The number to call in, actually, I haven't given the number. The number to call in to the ReliefFactor.com studio, 1-800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453. Again, that number, 1-800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453. Or go to MikeOnline.com. That is MikeOnline.com. All right. I see some text. I think those texts were yesterday. So you can text into the show as well. But let me let me start with this thing. I got to work with a thing. I try to come up with a theme every time I do or sit in for everyone. Every time I do my own show, it just kind of helps me put things into perspective. And what I was thinking about today was this thing. This thing is what I wrote down without political will. Policies and parties mean nothing without political will. Policies and parties mean nothing. I want you to hold on to that because I'm going to get back to that. I'm going to get to that when it comes to President Trump, who will go down as one of the greatest presidents in American history. I'll also tie in DeSantis, Governor Ron DeSantis. I'll also tie in Malay in Argentina. When it comes to this, but I want you to understand this without political will, policies and parties mean nothing. All right. So let me start off by just talking about New York City. And I'm so thankful that Mike was talking about this. I think New York City is a big deal. I know there's some conservatives and Republicans and even libertarians that say, well, let New York City go by the wayside. I think that's dangerous because I think it's just the beginning. If you see the useful idiots that are – you saw the useful idiots over the weekend and these rallies for Zoran Mandani and AOC was there. Bernie Sanders were there. All of the wealthy Democrats basically were there. Guys, we are surrounded by a bunch of useful idiots, and this is extremely dangerous. And I don't want Mandani and his views to spread like a cancer. And I got to tell you that I think a lot of conservatives – are framing this in the wrong way. There's no doubt. There's no doubt that Ma'am Danny is a communist. No doubt about it. Socialist, if you want. There's no doubt about it. But more than that, he's an Islamist. And that's what I find extremely terrifying. And I don't think a lot of Americans get it. I don't think a lot of Americans, unfortunately, even on our side, get what's happening with the United States of America. I got to tell you, what a shame. I'm sorry, New Yorkers. I love you. It is a shame that this man could even think about running for New York City mayor. And I got to be honest with you. I'm going to hold some of the voters accountable. New York City, New York City. the 9-11 terrorist attacks, New York City. I've got to be honest with you. This is going to offend some conservatives. To me, the bigger issue isn't whether or not you're going to hire a socialist for mayor. Because you've done that already, and you've done that for governor. And I'll prove that to you. The biggest issue to me is that you are likely going to put an Islamist... in office with a worldview that is totally antithetical to the Constitution of the United States of America. Now, I know socialism is too. We can have our debates. But guys, I got to say this. I'm going to say something that's going to offend some of you because some of you have been on this bandwagon, and that's okay. It's okay to disagree with me. I'm fine with that. You can call in 1-800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453. But a vote for Cuomo is a vote for socialism too. What did you say? Carl, you can't say that. You're going to destroy our chances in New York City. Guys, New York City is lost. And the very fact that the runner up in your mind is Cuomo tells me that perhaps you're not the greatest voter out there yourself. Carl Jackson in for Mike Gallagher. We'll be back in a few.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Carl Jackson.
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Welcome back to the Mike Gallagher Show. I'm your guest host, Carl Jackson, sitting in for Mike. 1-800-655-MIKE. 1-800-655-6453. Lucas in Phoenix, Arizona, you will be up next. We'll go to you momentarily. 1-800-655-MIKE. 1-800-655-6453 is the number to call in to the program. We're coming to you live from the relieffactor.com studio. I am your guest host, Carl Jackson, sitting in for Mike. I've got so much that I'd like to get to still. And basically, we are talking about political will. Early voting is underway, I see, in the New Jersey governor's race. The same is true for Virginia. I'm hoping and praying, and I believe it's going to happen in New Jersey. But I've also been eyeing this Virginia's race that I'm going to get to as well during the course of the program. Don't know if I'll get to it in this hour. If not, I'll get it get to it in the next hour. But I also want to talk about these liars that are in the Democrat Party. And one of the reasons why I'm so concerned. about the Mamdani race, and I don't take it lightly. I do believe, I'm sorry, I do believe that the Mamdani race is basically a tale of what's to come, if you will, and that is sadly, sorry for those of you that just saw me move. I believe it's a sad tale of what's to come. If we don't get this thing in check, if we don't start pressing our policies, explaining our policies, explaining why they're better, Not falling for this Islamophobia stuff. When he started pouring on this Islamophobia nonsense, Ma'am Danny did, you know, in the fear of that, I'm like, OK, this guy, it confirmed what I believed already. This guy wants to go beyond or move beyond communism to Islamism. I really do believe that's it. I really do believe that's it. I mean, where you have no freedom of religion, no freedom of speech. It's a theocracy. I believe ultimately that's what he wants, or at least that's what he thinks he wants. He's never had to be oppressed or suppressed by an Islamic government, so he might think it's cool unless he had to live under the thumbs of it. But let me just share a few of these races. I forgot about these. These are some... Top mayoral candidates. I printed this out over a week ago. I figured I'd keep it, and I'm glad I did. You got New York's Zoran's Mamdani. This is called the Mamdani effect. Three top mayoral candidates take aim at wallets with socialist-minded tax policies. Forgive me. I forget who this is by. It may be the Wall Street Journal. I don't remember. You have a Seattle's Katie Wilson on America's West Coast, thousands of miles away from New York. An upstart mayoral candidate is challenging incumbent Democrat Bruce Harrell. And she has not shied away from comparisons to her empire state comrade. So this is spreading like wildfire. These people are becoming bold. This is communism is the new Democrat Party. That's what they believe in. They want to be authoritarians. They make it sound nice and fluffy. Oh, we're going to take from the billionaires. We're going to take from the rich man. That ain't America in America. What you do is make sure politicians like Mamdani doesn't exist and they don't build a bunch of regulations that advantage the billionaires. Frankly, what Mamdani is doing is going to hurt the poor and it's going to enrich those that are already rich. The people that are rich can afford to move away from Ma'am Danny's policies. They can shield their money. They can invest their money. They can put their money in other places, different investments on, et cetera. But the people that he's claiming he wants to help, he's not going to help. He's not going to raise their status of living. What he's running on is, guys, he's running on the status quo. We're going to steal somebody's money that worked hard. We're going to give it to a bunch of lazy, no good pieces of crud. That's his campaign. Hey, you don't want to work. You don't want to be lazy. You know, life is life is hard. Just take it easy. I'll go steal somebody's money for you. I'll give it to you. And you can feel good about yourself. But you're never going to rise to the level in your life that God intended you to rise. You're never going to become who God intended you to be. That's what communism essentially does. This is what he's running on. And frankly, the fact that so many people are falling for this nonsense... It terrifies me. The fact that we have so many useful idiots inside of the United States. Guys, I don't believe I no longer believe that is just split 50 50 when it comes to voters. And frankly, I don't believe it's a 50 50 split anyway. I think Democrats have been rigging elections, gerrymandering, so on, et cetera, forever. But nonetheless, let's pretend like it's basically 50 50. You've got 50 percent of Americans. that are informed, or at least moderately informed when it comes to politics, and you've got another 50% that are useful idiots. I mean, seriously. And I don't mean that. I don't mean that as a pejorative. I don't mean to be mean. It's just a fact. I'm not saying that they're not necessarily bright people in other areas of their life, but when it comes to politics, when it comes to voting, when it comes to safeguarding their freedom, they're dumb as all get out. And that's what concerns me more than Mamdani. Mamdani supporters. Let's go to the lines. Let's go to Lucas. Lucas has been waiting patiently. Lucas is in Phoenix, Arizona. Lucas, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. You got the mic. Thank you.
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First of all, I just want to thank you for your enthusiasm for fighting for the Republican or the conservatives, okay? That's the first thing I'd like to say. Thank you. The second thing is that, you know, this whole ballroom thing that I've been hearing about for a week now, whatever, the Democrats, they don't like the idea that some contractor, okay, that he's able to make all this happen and, you know, because they're all lawyers in the Senate and the House, oh, they think they're so small and they're all smart. And I just hate the idea that the American people are falling into the Democrat you know, what they believe in because it's just plain stupid what they believe in. So that's all I want to say.
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Well, thank you. Listen, I appreciate the call. I got to be honest with you. I don't I don't think they're buying into it anymore. I think people have had it. Here's the bottom line. I was thinking about this this morning. And frankly, I hate talking about this ballroom. I'm just I'm so over it. But sometimes, you know, it's still in the news. Democrats are still trying to use it as a cudgel and it's not working and it's not going to work. And right now, Democrats are out there. Oh, man. You know, one of the first things that you need to be able to say in your campaign if you run for president as 2020 and 2028 on a Democratic ticket is you're going to tear that ballroom down. They're not going to tear that ballroom down. They are not going to tell that. OK, if they do, let me leave myself a window just in case. All right. But I would be shocked. Thank you for the call, Lucas. I would be absolutely, absolutely shocked if they tore that ballroom down. You know why? Just like Lucas said, he's a builder too. These people don't know how to build. All they know how to do is tear stuff down. Trump knows exactly what he's doing. All right, I'm going to tear this down. I'm going to get the best stone. I'm going to get the best concrete. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. I'm going to fortify it, make sure it's this way, safe, secure, so on, et cetera, elegant, all that. Do you think these people know how to come in and put that together? If somebody else on a Democratic ticket says, Imagine Gavin Newsom came in and then he bust that building down. He bust the new ballroom that's going to be built. Imagine he bust it down. He wouldn't be able to rebuild it. Look at what's happening in the Pacific Palace 8. He wouldn't know what to do. The guy wouldn't have a clue. These people are not builders. They tear stuff down. Another race that we should be concerned about in Minneapolis is a guy by the name of Omar Fatah. You guys, I'm sure you guys have heard that. I believe I shared that information with you guys before. But these are now what they call progressive candidates. And we all know they're regressive, but they're running in different parts of the country. And obviously, they're more blue areas, if you will. But nonetheless. This stuff is spreading. And you get a bunch of useful idiots that buy into this nonsense, that buy into all the fluff. They vote for this stuff only to hurt their part of the country. Then they run away from their policies. That's another thing we have to be concerned about. They run away from their policies. They don't realize why they're running away from their policies. Oh, man, New York City has gotten so bad. It's gotten so bad. Yeah, because of you, fool. I mean, you kept voting. You kept voting for policies that would destroy it. That's why I'm like, OK, even when it comes to Andrew Cuomo, I really think I know I may be I may be a voice crying in the wilderness. I think Andrew Cuomo, first off, you can tell he doesn't even want the job. He just wants to use it as a platform because he doesn't want to give up on the idea of being able to run for president. But the guy is a horrible politician and he's a horrible politician. You know why? Because he's a Democrat. He's never had to work for anything. The media has covered his tracks forever. I guarantee you, this guy runs for president. You know which way he's running? You know which way he's running, all you conservatives and Republicans that vote Cuomo? He's going to run to the left in order to try to beat Gavin Newsom. Mark my words. We'll be back.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Carl Jackson.
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All right. Welcome back to the Mike Gallagher show. I'm your guest host, Carl Jackson, sitting in for Mike. Guys, I want to talk to you about some of the liars in the Democrat Party. These people are void of substance. So they have to. They're unimpressive. Their policies are unimpressive and they're unimpressive as people. And so joining me now, Roger P. Shulman is joining me. The Mike Gallagher Show Newsman. So, Roger, welcome to the program. Gavin Newsom, Roger, was on a podcast the other day with some former NBA players. He had a lot to say, and it seems like he was trying to lead the audience to believe that he grew up without money.
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Well, he did. And he said his family was hustling to survive Carl while he was growing up. He said they had roommates all the time because his mom with three jobs couldn't afford the rent, eating Wonder Bread and macaroni and cheese. But critics point out his dad was a lawyer with the billionaire. air getty family critics have circulated pictures of newsome wearing a plaid scarf and being voted most stylish in high school that doesn't sound like a poor person and a picture of newsome posing along with andrew and billy getty and paul mohan which ran in the san francisco chronicle piece children of the rich
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Man, this guy is so fake, Roger. Why do you think he felt as though he needed to lie about his upbringing? I realize that his mom and dad split. His mom worked three jobs. Maybe he went between two different worlds, but he certainly wasn't impoverished. And frankly, Wonder Bread and macaroni and cheese is something that a lot of people hate growing up. I don't know that that makes you poor.
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I ate it. It wasn't bad. I did all right. Now, it seems that fake stories, you know, fake accents. Remember Hillary Clinton and her fake accent and fake backstories are so prevalent on the left that they have nothing moral against telling the lie. Everybody just marches along between extreme wealth. and privilege. Gavin Newsom doing his blue collar act and Zohan Mondami faking tears over his family being the real victims of the 9-11 disaster. You can see how the future of the Democratic Party is. Communists lie like they breathe. Mondami said his auntie was nervous after 9-11 about riding the bus with her ajib. Turns out his aunt never wears the thing. It's so fake and it's just so ridiculous.
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Yeah, it's so astonishing to me. And I wish that people were listening to you, Roger, because what I don't understand is how the voters constantly fall for these people. They don't do any research. They can lie like this. I mean, turns out. that his aunt might not, she may have been, but she may not have been, if I recall correctly, in the United States, like she was living in Tanzania or something like that. And she wasn't necessarily a Muslim woman. As a matter of fact, she spoke about things that kind of went against the Muslim faith, if I recall correctly.
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Yes. And this is an interesting situation. A lot of women fall for Gavin Newsom because he's pretty. And I got into a middle of a nasty argument at a eating place in Tampa last night. There were three women. Republican men, including me, and a young woman who thought Gavin Newsom was a wonderful leader and so handsome. She knows nothing about the guy, nothing about the disastrous fires and other things going on in California, the homeless situation there. She just thinks he's wonderful. We all ended up getting into a nasty argument. She took an Uber home. The three of us all just walked out of the building after a very unpleasant evening. The polarization is really nasty. And then, of course, with the Super Bowl coming up with Bad Bunny, there's just a lot of divide here going on. And a lot of it is based on lies.
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Man, Roger, listen, I know that you can be spunky. I hate that your night didn't end. Didn't end the way that you wanted to. But you're right, man. It's important that we stand up for truth. It's sad. People will be swayed by people's looks, by some of the things that they say, like Gavin Newsom not doing any investigation. The guy is one of the worst, if not the worst, governor in the entire United States of America. And he constantly gets a pass. And he seems like, I don't know, that he might be on his way to becoming the Democrat nominee because I think it's going to be hard to beat him. I really do.
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Well, it is because, number one, he appeals to a lot of the females because he's pretty, he's tall, he speaks well, and people just don't know about the situation. A majority of people in the United States don't have a very high reading level. I was reading about 40% of people have a fourth-grade reading level, so they're not doing that much research on this sort of thing, and it's a... It's a scary situation. We're involved in it every day, but most people are just going about their lives and looking at the periphery.
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Yeah, you know what? And I got to tell you, Roger, I don't necessarily blame the politicians. I blame the voters. If you're going to keep this republic, then we got to we got to be informed. We got to be informed voters. It's really as simple as that.
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Informed and involved.
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That's true. All right. So not as simple as I said. Informed and involved. All right. Roger P. Shulman, the Mike Gallagher Show newsman. Thank you so much, Roger. Appreciate you. All right. And I want to follow up on that. I mean, honestly, you sit here and think about it. All of these guys, whether it's Gavin Newsom, Gavin Newsom going on to a podcast with these former black NBA players. And I've listened to the podcast a couple of times. I actually like it, but there's no pushback when it comes to politicians. If you recall, that same podcast, I believe it's called Up in Smoke, if I recall correctly, when Kamala Harris came on that podcast or went on that podcast, they were given talking points. They admitted that after she lost and basically told what they can't ask. I'm not sure if that was the same with Gavin Newsom. May or may not have been. Normally it isn't scripted in that way. But honestly, I just believe that these people are so unimpressive, both in policy and in person. I mean, the fact that going back to Gavin Newsom, think about what I said earlier. With Mitt Romney, I think one of the mistakes that Mitt Romney made during those debates with Obama when they were talking about his wealth and bashing him for his wealth. I mean, like, this is America, man. You come here to create opportunity for yourself, for your children, and so on, etc. And you shouldn't be ashamed of that. These people with these third world mentalities, all the rich, you know, all this Marxism nonsense, bash the rich, bash the rich. If you made your money honestly, All right. So what? So what? And just deregulate deregulate to a point where other people can come up in America, too. I just don't like when people try to shut the doors, shut the doors behind them. That's what doesn't make sense to me. But Gavin Newsom is thoroughly unimpressive when it comes to policy. And that's why he has to sit there and lie and listen. I have no doubt. Listen, I think whether you have rich parents or poor parents, a kid that goes through a divorce, that's going to be hard on the kid because you are going to live two different lifestyles, perhaps even morally different values from house to house. That happens oftentimes. His mother worked two and a half jobs, so perhaps he did see his mother working harder in that way than his father had to work. But Doesn't mean he was impoverished. I don't believe he was impoverished at all. But in order to try and impress people and especially blacks, I really think it's condescending. I think it's racist. I think he has to pretend like he's somehow down with the struggle, like black people need to hear that he was poor to be able to vote for him. I don't need to hear that you're poor. I don't need to hear that you're rich. I need to hear what barriers you're going to move out of my way so that I can do the best that I can to become wealthy, successful, and provide for my family and achieve the American dream in the way that I want. That's all I want to hear from a politician. That's it. Leave me alone. Freedom of religion. Freedom of speech. I want to be able to live in a capitalistic free market economy. We're not there. We're in a mixed economy. Other than that, just leave me alone. Stay out of my business. Carl Jackson in for Mike Gallagher. We'll be back in a few.
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Kamala Harris's new memoir of the 24 election is called 107 Days, but it should have been called Everyone Sucks But Me. In 107 days, nothing is ever Kamala's fault. Biden lets her down by not stepping down sooner. Pouty face emoji. Gavin Newsom, he was asked for his endorsement, but texted, hiking will call back, but then never did.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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All right, welcome back to the program. Carl Jackson in for Mike Gallagher. That is funny. Kamala Harris is such a disaster. And honestly, she's emblematic of these politicians on the left that move up. They've never been tested. They've never been battle tested. Honestly, you even consider Andrew Cuomo. Look at how he performed in the first one or two debates in that New York City mayoral race. And all these people, man, he's not into it. Man, he did such a horrible job. I'm like, the problem with a lot of Democrats is they get away with murder from the media. I mean, they really do. They've got an entire apparatus of people that just constantly kiss their butt, whether they do a good job or not. And so when they're challenged, they don't know what to do. They don't know what to say. And he finally came out and had a good debate on this last go-round, but it was too little too late. But I just want to give you some snippets of who you're dealing with with the left. Carlo, you'll be next. The number to call in, 1-800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453. Also need to get the Zoran Mandani aunt story because I think the dude just lied. He just straight up lied. I talked about it a little bit with Roger P. Shulman. at the top of the hour, but I want to talk about that a little bit more. Also, right now, the Senate is taking up the 13th vote on a clean funding bill. And guys, this is simple. We're still living under Biden's budget. What Republicans were asking for is a clean CR, just a clean resolution. Current spending levels levels to sustain exactly where they are. There's no extra give me's, if you will. And then I don't even think it's not a fight at all by the Republicans. Frankly, it's already passed in the House. So Hakeem Jeffries gaslighting people. They're not even here. They're not even in Washington, D.C. Well, last week when they weren't. They need to come back and so on, etc. And I'm like, fool, it's already passed in the House. Stop lying. That's what they do. That's what commies do all the time. They just lie, they lie, they lie. It needs to pass in the Senate. It had already passed in the House. This is Whoopi Goldberg. This is cut number four. I just want to give you a sample. of what we're dealing with when we deal with the left. And this is why they get away with murder, because you have people that are low information voters like Whoopi Goldberg. Cut number four, por favor, Eric.
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So just so we're clear, you have nothing to say about any of this. Just understand that, okay? Republicans have pretty much given him free reign up till now. Are they gonna let this happen? Are y'all gonna let it happen?
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You know why this idiocy is so dangerous? To be this uninformed is dangerous. And I actually like Whoopi Goldberg. Something about her personality I like. I can't stand her takes on politics. But also what she's saying is dangerous. And she doesn't understand it. She doesn't realize it. Let me play another cut for you. This is cut number 12. This is Wilbur Wright College staffer Moises Bernal who called to kill and shoot ICE. Why would you go to such extremes? It's because you're being told that there's a dictator in the White House. It's because you're being told that ICE agents that are simply doing their job, and now everybody and their mother is trying to film it. You have a coordinated campaign that's trying to make it look as bad as possible because the Democrats don't want their illegal voters, their new slave trade ruined. That's what it is, guys. It's a slave trade. They're bringing in a perpetual underclass and then promising to give them a bunch of goodies like Zoran Mamdani so these people will stay perpetually impoverished and constantly rely on the Democrat Party and vote for the Democrat Party. Black people that stick up for this nonsense, you should be ashamed of yourself. Get a freaking clue. Learn some history. See what they're doing. I want every single illegal gone. And I realize that's not going to look pretty. I realize that's going to stir up some emotion. I realize that's going to be painful for some. If they can come back the legal way, I want them here. I just want them to come legally. I want them to assimilate. I want them to love America because no country can survive bringing in millions of people that hate this country and then rely on some of our welfare programs, rely on our hospital system. It's unsustainable. And it's bigoted. Cut number 12, por favor, Eric.
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You got to grab a gun. We got to turn around the guns on this fascist system. These ICE agents got to get shot and wiped out. This state, the state machinery, that's a full display right there, has to get wiped out.
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You understand why these liars on the left are so dangerous? People like this useful idiot. That's a college that was a college professor. Thank God he's been fired by into this nonsense. They see this nonsense. They don't think of any other background. All right. We're a sovereign nation. We have rules just like every other country. I encourage everybody listening to this program. Seriously, just do a deep dive one day on some of the policies of even our neighboring countries, Mexico, Canada. Canada has become more lax lately. But Mexico in particular, look at their border policies. Look at any country in the world. Look at their border policies. The United States of America has the most lax border policies in the entire world. It's the dumbest thing ever. If you wanted to commit suicide the way that you do it, you open your borders, you You let a bunch of illegals come in that don't give a flip about this country, just kind of want to take from this country. They don't want to assimilate. They don't buy into the ideals. And then you get a bunch of useful idiots like Whoopi Goldberg of The View and this guy that was a college professor. You keep people angry. This is all that's happening. Whoopi is angry. This guy, Moises Bernal, he's angry. You've got this media narrative. Oh, look at how Trump is handling people. I mean, I see stuff on X all the time. Look at how ICE handled this person. Well, did they resist? Oh, this wasn't an illegal alien. Did they interfere with the illegal alien that they were trying to arrest? Sometimes they make a mistake. This stuff happens. But this is what happens when you bring in 15, 20 million people illegally in a span of a few years. They have to go. They have to go. Watch this video. This is cut number 13. Rabbis for Mamdani. Oh, we don't have enough time. All right, we'll play it. All right, we'll play it later. All right. But I want to play you this video. We will when we get back. These rabbis for Ma'am Danny, just a bunch of useful idiots. They're secular Jews. There's Orthodox Jews. Obviously, there's Jews just with straight-up common sense. And these ladies don't have it. It's the saddest thing ever. They don't realize what they're in for in New York City. Anyway, Carl Jackson sitting in for Mike Gallagher. We'll be back in a few.
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Dive into this episode as we dissect the bizarre incidents involving Florida's infamous Florida Men and Women. From traffic stops gone wild to explosive threats in high schools, these stories are as wild as they are enlightening. We also delve into the political drama surrounding Christian Zionism and its historical implications, offering an in-depth understanding of its significance in modern debates around identity and faith.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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I don't know when people are going to learn. New dude, after running from Florida traffic stop. This happened actually just yesterday. Lake Wales, Florida. A Florida man was arrested after he fled a traffic stop. Ended up in a swamp, according to Polk County Sheriff's Office. They said that John Riff... That sounds like a fake name. John Riff honestly sounds like the name of Patrick Swayze's deputy bodyguard in Roadhouse. Anyway, he... Listen, listen to the street name. He fled on foot from a traffic stop in the area of Shellcracker Drive and Catfish Road, where you live at right there upon Shellcracker and Catfish. That's where I'm at. I mean, what a crossroad right there. I would actually pay to rename my streets that. So he tried to evade authorities. He buried himself in a muddy swamp. But guess what? You cannot out full. You cannot full canine. They got him. He had some drugs on his person. He did not have a valid driver's license. And also, he's already on felony probation for possession of meth. That's methed up, y'all. So, he's in trouble. I'm surprised he didn't get gobbled up by a damn gator, if I'm being honest. I mean, you might as well just, it's like 50-50. A Florida man got charged after a sucker punch outside of the Aldi. left the guy in a coma. Holy moly. Broward Sheriff's Office, they said that a Florida man has saw it because he violently sucker punched a shopper and left the dude in a coma. They announced the arrest of DeAndre Johnson, 45, after publicly pleading for tips to identify him. It was in Lauderdale Lakes and it's caught on CCTV. He's facing a charge of felony battery causing great bodily harm, permanent disability or permanent disfigurement. And they did get a lot of tips, though, but. It was like 7 p.m. at the Aldi. It captured the victim who was with his service dog. He got into a verbal argument with Johnson inside the store. Johnson's like way bigger than this dude. As he Johnson then exited the store and waited for the victim outside. Right. Right outside the doors. And then the video shows the victim walking out with the service dog. And then Johnson sucker punches him so hard. The guy falls, strikes his head real hard, like bounced on the ground like a basketball. That dude is in he's in a coma and he's got permanent injuries now. And I hope the dog's OK. And they said he he was saying that the attack was provoked and he claimed that the guy's service dog had attacked him. And that's not at all supported by any of the CCTV footage. So the judge set his bond at one hundred thousand and he looks like trouble. He looks like I've got it. I have a very harsh. We don't have harsh enough penalties for stuff like this. I think you do something like that, then you should be put into a coma. And then if you're burned on the taxpayer, you should be eliminated. It's not cruel and unusual. You know, what's cruel and unusual is allowing people like this to plague free people like a virus. Good and free people. You have no right to demand that they have to put up with stuff like this. These criminals thrive on the indulgence of a weak society's understanding.
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Anyway, I want to plead for some prison justice in this one.
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I mean, you guys know how I feel. I'm all happy to donate to the commissary for prison justice advocates. That's all I'm saying. People find Jesus in prison all the time. I'm just saying. Also, I got another one. Hold up. Nope, not reading that one. Or this one. I told you about, well, a Florida woman threatened to blow up a high school over her daughter's boyfriend's missing lunch. Sounds weird. So true. Brandy Covington, you know, it was a woman named Brandy. I know I like women named Brandy's, but they are rumble rumbly. She decided the best way to handle her daughter's boyfriend not getting his school lunch was to threaten to, quote, burn the school down and blow that blanking school up. Because that's exactly how you respond when something goes wrong in a school cafeteria. It all started when she called Rockledge High School's cafeteria mad that the daughter's boyfriend had his lunch taken away because he didn't have sufficient funds in his account. Where are the boyfriend's parents? It seems like that's the boyfriend's parents' job to do. Also, if he didn't have enough money in his account, he could have maybe just, I mean, clearly he called them and told them what happened, but he could have said, can you bring me some money so I can get some lunch? Now she's dealing with, she had a post $75,000 bond. She was in Brevard County Jail. This is crazy. It is the folks over at Kel-Tec, a Florida-born, Florida-based USA family, all of that company that makes some pretty neat firearms. And in fact, they have The Peacekeepers Program that they're doing, it supports people who protect the communities, military, law enforcement, church security teams, school resource officers, faith-based teams and SROs. Usually you got small concealable pistols that they rely on and it has a limited range. And so what they do is they provide long guns to help solve that problem. And they fold up compact for discrete carry and deploy in seconds with full rifle capability. The peacekeepers participants also get mission ready support. So you get extra platform testing and you get armor training and direct peacekeeper pricing. for budget-conscious organizations. Now, it's already active, the program, and it's equipped over two dozen churches throughout the Faith-Based Security Network and every Brevard County school, a number of different schools. Rock Springs Police, they run KSG shotguns and sub-2Ks, 5.7s for SROs. Caltech proudly partners with the Faith-Based Security Network, and it gives people access to all the training, all the insight, everything. If you're interested in participating in the new Peacekeepers program, and getting that direct pricing as well, you can fill out the contact form at keltecweapons.com slash Dana. That's K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com slash Dana.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Mid-December, mid-late December. It's actually funny. It was December 18th. I remember because that's an important date to me. And it's Joseph Stalin's birthday. I'm a fan. You're a fan of Stalin.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course the twink is a fan.
SPEAKER 11 :
I was an admirer. But we don't need to go into that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Full disclosure. First off, welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this. Second hour. That is I can't I don't want to say his full name because but that's that Fuentes guy, right? He's this like weird little twink who was loathed by Charlie Kirk, by the way, and previously most of the Turning Point staff I should should put out there. because of stuff like this. I mean, he's trying to be such an edgelord, and it's just, it looks kind of sad, especially because he got caught in a live stream with gay porn, but whatever. I mean, you know, Hitler was apparently a twink, too, so, you know. But... I've known Tucker for a long time and Tucker was very helpful when we had our big fight with our school board here during CRT and he helped amplify that. I've, you know, I've done election coverage with him at Fox, you know, where we're on set for hours at a time. I've met him in person. I've, you know, I considered him, you know, not like I'm not best friends with him, but, you know, he's a friend, you know, we're friendly. I have texted with him and I texted him earlier today too. Because I like to be able to tell people that I know, what are you thinking? I don't want to just, you know, for clicks. I know everybody's a click whore and that the monetization of X, which pays for engagement, has completely revolutionized political discourse to the point where we throw like that. We go after the lowest hanging fruit and then people make bank on it. That's why you see people tweet stupid stuff. And that's why everything is very antagonistic, because antagonism makes people money. So that's why it's and I think it's the worst mistake Elon Musk made with X personally. But, you know, it's not mine and I'm not running it. So that's just the way it is. But I had messaged Tucker earlier like. dude and he always responds but i haven't heard back from him on this one and i'm sure i will but you know i always like to say something or at least talk to people privately and i don't like to go out and you know blast people for all these people out there who who try to sit here and tell me no enemies to the right unlike them i actually know these people i basically grew up in this industry with these people and i think that you there's a difference between attacking disagreeing, and then also Christian discernment. I cannot imagine calling yourself a hard-hitting journalist and having someone like that guy on your program who's basically sitting here fluffing the memory of Joseph Stalin, who is an atheist, by the way, a really hardcore atheist who literally, as part of state policy, promoted godlessness and And not push back on him. Joseph Stalin, a godless atheist that killed millions of people. Having a guy sit across from you and proclaim his love of this dead failed revolutionary who murdered people and hated God. And talk about his devout love for him and not push back. By the way, these are some of the people who say Christ is king also. And they don't say Christ is king is a way to worship Jesus. They say Christ is king is a way to blaspheme and try to beat you over the head with it. Meanwhile, they worship godless atheists like Joseph Stalin. You see what I'm saying now? This is the woke right. They practice the same identity politics as the left because they are the left. Their policies are no different from the left. I just can't imagine calling yourself a hard-hitting journalist and not pushing back on that. And he sat there, as anybody should, and just had an expression of whiskey tango foxtrot come across his face. That's the moment he should have been full stop. What are you doing? What are you doing? I've known Tucker, like I said, we're not besties and we don't have Sunday dinners and we haven't done anything. I've talked to his dad before who's passed away. Um, I don't recognize this person. I don't know. Like I said, I'm not there every single day and we're not, you know, BFFs, but I don't know, maybe something, I don't know. I don't know. Just to give you another idea of the guy that was interviewed, this is audio cut 29. Listen to this one. It's by the way, not for the faint of heart.
SPEAKER 11 :
Whether he chooses to confront me or not, whether he has dignity and honor or not, it's just a matter of time. My ideas are already there. I've already impregnated your organization. I took Turning Point USA and I f***ed it. I took your organization. I took your baby, Turning Point USA, and I f***ed it. And I've been f***ing it. And that's why it's filled with groipers. That's why your whole crew. That's why the people around you. That's why your chapter presidents. That's why your attendees. They're all groipers. So whether you choose to confront me or not over the honor of your Turning Point USA, it's immaterial to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's talking about Charlie Kirk. remember this is the same guy that got caught with gay porn in a live stream by the way he got caught with gay porn in a live stream it came up on his screen apparently by accident and everybody saw i just want to put that out there and the video exists and i also have it so i got the video of him getting up happily publish it out there i just thought it was interesting fear he's so obsessed with fornicating with an organization but can't get a real girl i um why would you platform someone like this Why? I don't get it. I understand the people who say, well, you know, this is not cancel culture. If you think that Christian discernment is cancel culture, you need to spend more time in the Gospels and less time on X. If you think that Christian discernment is cancel culture, you need to spend more time in the Gospels and less time on X. It's not about whether or not someone has the right to speak. It's are they worthy of Of mainstreaming into the movement. I mean, good grief. Even Paul had to do his time after he was Saul before he was welcomed in to be one of the greatest disciples. Come on. This is what's mind numbing. This is the stuff that's going on in the right. This is happening on the right right now. Charlie hated this guy. And there's tons of texts out there. I'm not going to posthumously speak for him. He speaks for himself. I'm just pointing out the texts that are online that exist. I'm pointing out the tweets from their staff that are online and already exist. Nobody needs to make up words to put in their mouths. They already spoke for themselves on these issues. Who would sit down and interview someone like this? Let's play cut 27. This might be some insight.
SPEAKER 08 :
How do you explain Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz? And they're a lot like that John Bolton. I mean, I've known them all, George W. Bush, like Karl Rove. I mean, all people I know personally who I've seen be seized by this brain virus and they're not jewish they're most of them are self-described christians and and then the christian zionists who are well christian zionists like what is that right i can just say for my self i dislike them more than anybody you know because like what because it's christian heresy and i'm offended by that as a christian that's why
SPEAKER 03 :
So I think – so what he's talking about – how do you define Christian Zionism, Cain? Because Christian – I mean Zionism is just the belief that Jewish people have the right to the land that they have historically lived on that's supported by thousands of years of antiquity.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's just the Christianity support of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. So what does he find heretical about this? That's what intrigues me.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think he was making in a previous podcast the distinction between who God was speaking about when he said Israelites in the Bible as opposed to what we now know as Israel here today. But it's simpler than that for Christians as it relates to the label of Zionism. And I think they're taking that muddy water and they're trying to make something else out of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. So I think he had mentioned Mike Huckabee and who else? Mark Levin. I like Mark Levin. Mark Levin has been a straight shooter for as long as I can remember. And is he saying that he finds it heretical, the belief that it is the fulfillment of some prophecy or a biblical prophecy that... basically foreshadows the second coming of Christ? Yeah. And is that what he's talking about, that what he thinks is heretical?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think so.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, I know a lot of Christians that believe that, but I feel like that's being conflated because there's not a good enough job that is being done, in my opinion, to clearly articulate the difference between... biblical doctrine and then also the belief that people, I mean, it's not up for debate. I mean, there's thousands of years of history, recorded, documented history from every single walk of life, from the Zoroastrianism, Islam, Christian, I mean, everywhere where These people have been in this part of the world on that land for thousands of years. That's not up for dispute unless people want to dispute all of thousands of years of recorded history from every walk of life, every color and creed. It seems like it's purposefully conflated as a way to undermine that claim. Does that make sense? Do you think that that's legitimate? Is that how you do you see that, Cain?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, that's the attempt. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And even if now let's just play devil's advocate for a moment, for lack of a better phrase. Even if you believe that people who think that. Even if you believe that. What does that have to do with supporting a people's right to exist in the land that has been historically theirs for thousands of years? Right. I mean, there are Christians who believe that and believe that it portends the second coming and all of that other stuff. But I really feel like that's kind of a distraction from the larger point. But it's conflated to undermine the support of people to live in the land that has been theirs for thousands of years. You know, and I don't think that. I think there's also a way if you are a person of faith, if you're a Christian and you don't believe that. I don't know what philosophy theory or perspective. I think it's unfair to lump people in to conflate the two. But I also think it's unfair to denigrate those people because what harm does that belief pose? especially if you're talking about overall Jewish people living in Gaza. That's ultimately what we're talking about, are we not? We're talking about Jewish people living in Gaza. Thousands of years of antiquity that support their presence. That's what I'm looking at. And it feels like a conflation to undermine the legitimate claim of presence that the Jewish people have in that area. That's my perspective on it. So our skin changes in subtle ways over the years, especially after having kids. Maybe your hair and your nails and your skin don't seem as strong as you'd like for them to be, but there are smart ways to support them as you maneuver through the seasons of life. Bubz Naturals Collagen Peptides offer a very powerful solution to help restore health. to your skin and your nails, reverse the signs of aging, and support your body from within. So starting in your 20s, your body produces less collagen every year. And collagen is the protein that holds everything together. It's like the glue for the body. So with bubs, you can restore collagen levels to what your body had before when you were in your 20s. And that means stronger joints, healthier hair and nails, smoother skin, and faster recovery, especially after workouts. Bubz Naturals offers the cleanest, most effective collagen peptides made from grass-fed, pasture-raised cattle. And the powder is tasteless, it's odorless, and it dissolves instantly in your coffee, smoothie, juice, whatever you want to put it in. And it's third-party tested, NSF certified, Whole30 approved, and free of sugars or fillers. So for a limited time, get 20% off with code Dana at BubzNaturals.com. That's B-U-B-S Naturals dot com. Support the show and tell them that Dana sent you.
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This is a question. I did not have this on my bingo card. The Pope's new astronomer says he would baptize an alien. Pope Leo's astronomers... Do you have an astronomer? Said he would baptize an alien into the Catholic Church. Father Richard D'Souza says little green dudes, they are they would be one of God's creatures. God didn't say that he didn't make aliens. So that's why I'm not going to have like, you know, an existential crisis if they pop into the atmosphere, by the way. But yeah, he said he's a cleric who's been appointed chief astronomer to Pope Leo at the Vatican Observatory. And he said that, yeah, he'd baptize him. Interesting, an alien. All right, so a, man, this is a total like Lemony Snicket series of unfortunate events here. A man's truck was flipped and then it got hit by a train. And then I love all of these ads that I'll immediately start playing. It happened near Green Mountain Racetrack. This is in Vermont. This 27 year old man rolled his truck. It was resting on its roof, right on the train tracks. This is like a horrible action movie. And then the train arrived. He was able to get out of the truck. He only had minor injuries. The southbound train was unable to be contacted and collided with the truck. So there were no injuries and the crash is still under investigation. A shooting suspect targeted a neighbor over concerns of a horse getting too fat. That's okay. A man is accused of shooting his neighbor. And, yeah, it's Polk County. Actually, this could have been a Florida man, technically. No, well, it's a Houston. This was in Florida, but it's a Houston man. He's being held in Polk County Jail with no bond. 39-year-old is charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. And he's also being held on aggravated assault of a family member as well related to a Harris County case. uh, in Texas case. So they, uh, the victim said that the neighbor, the instigator shot her in the arm, uh, because he was upset that she kept feeding her own horse that was kept on his property with permission. He was, did not want the horse to get fat. So instead of, you know, amicably discussing it with the neighbor, he decides to shoot her in the arm. You know, this is why alien is why the Pope can't baptize an alien. Cause I'm not going to come visit us because of this kind of stuff. Oh, look, now they're trying to do these stories again. They're trying to say ivermectin is to blame for the death of a Colorado woman. But it's not. What do you say to those constituents who are worried about feeding their families?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, this is the most cruel thing that the Republicans have done since the shutdown started. 42 million people are on SNAP. That is basic food assistance. It is the most effective anti-hunger program that we have ever had.
SPEAKER 03 :
Is it, though? If it's so effective, then why does it keep ballooning? You can say that, well, Dana, that's because of its efficacy or because all of the solutions that government has had to this issue have only made people easier in being in that situation as opposed to assisting them in getting out of it and rising above it. I mean, that's insane. I mean, you're talking about over 40 million people that are on food stamps. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. This is a, a I was actually, I mean, I knew it was a lot. Kane, did you know that it was like over 40 million? I mean, you knew it was a lot, but when you actually see the hard data, it's like, what the?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's crazy. That's, what is that? Like 12 plus percent of the entire population?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's like over 11% of the population. So everybody think about that for a moment. Over 11% of the population is on food stamps. Now, here's the other question that I had on this. How many of those people are in the country legally? Do we know? Or illegally, rather. How many are in the country illegally? I feel like that's a big thing. Right? That's pretty... That's pretty huge. Well, we know that they were already getting an insane amount of government handouts. I mean, we saw that with USAID. I saw that for one of the USDA, and I was looking at this, and I went... I wanted to run this by because I don't believe AI. I can tell when somebody gives me an AI answer and I cannot stand AI. Let me just caution you real quick and come back to my point. Be very careful about using AI for stuff. Because AI, first off, you can bias AI super easy in the manner in which you ask a question. If you want it to give you a conservative answer or a progressive answer or a whatever answer, you can absolutely ask it verbatim to do that. But you can also intimate. what sort of context you want your answer to come back to you as by the phrasing and the manner in which you ask it. So that's number one. Number two, AI pulls from, data includes opinions on X. if it's Grok particularly. Data includes opinions, like on social media editorials, it comes and it kind of takes a quick assessment of everything that it sees online. Because I have done as a test, a number of things. The only time I've actually ever really used AI was to try to try to dispute AI. And there were certain things that had gotten incredibly incorrect. AI has, especially like, for instance, with Second Amendment issues. I've been poring over a crime statistics measuring different European nations. I have a debate coming up compared to that of the United States. And. Because certain countries actually under report their murders and homicide and murder are categorized and collected differently because homicide generally as a total can also includes not can, but it also includes justifiable homicides, which is why the homicide rate always looks way higher. And there's no differentiation of that, especially in certain nations. And for instance, England and Wales only consider homicides. They only count their cases if the suspect involved in said case is prosecuted. Otherwise, that does not make their statistics. And that comes from actually their own police in England and in Wales. So when you're asking AI, AI does not include these nuances and it will give you a completely wholly incorrect answer. That is colorized by bias because it's pulling from bias. So it's not actually any better than basically a search engine. Maybe one day that will change. But as of right now, it's not. So you've got to be very, very careful when you're looking at AI generated answers and going off that as gospel truth, because you may be perpetuating progressive bias. So I went and I was looking at this data because I didn't necessarily trust it. And I was looking at household SNAP participation rates because they were saying that, well, when you break it down per census and you look at native born Americans and then you look at, excuse me, people who immigrated into the country. Previously, when you would look at snap rates of actual United States citizens, and this is something that would make people really mad, but actually poor whites were getting quite a bit. followed like right behind by black Americans in urban communities. I mean, right behind it. I mean, it's very close. And it didn't take into effect, you know, people who immigrated in the United States, etc. So what this examination did was it was looking at SNAP participants like from everywhere, not just people who were born in the United States, but people who immigrated into the United States. And the reliance is actually extraordinarily high. And now there's an asterisk here, immigrant communities. What does that mean? They're not illegal. That's the other thing that's actually not being tabulated into this. There is a significant number that are here illegally that are still receiving those benefits. And, you know, you can buy and sell benefits like that. That's like with DoorDash. One of the reasons I don't use DoorDash is because and it was on their website for a while. There are screenshots before they scrubbed it. They actually don't require – they were telling people per the screenshots that are all over the internet and the website that was way back archived before it changed that you just needed a work – was it a work identification number? Not necessarily a social security number. And then also people buy and sell DoorDash accounts and they allow people to rent them. So you might have like Tiffany Smith and then it could be like Mohammed Mohammed who's like running the account. I mean it's not necessarily Tiffany Smith. And that's I actually started looking into that because there would be times that we would get things delivered and it would be like a female and then it was just like a six foot two dude who would drop off stuff at the door who totally did not look at all like the female who owned the account. And that's actually a demonstrably proven issue that DoorDash has. So my point being and coming back to this is that there's a significant number of people. They said it was like 46 percent for Afghans, 42 percent for Somalis. And of course, then that gets into Minneapolis that are receiving a significant number of or a pretty sizable amount of taxpayer money in terms of benefits. This is insane. It's absolutely insane. I mean, you're talking about thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people. The largest demo is still poor whites, but followed closely by urban black Americans. But this is forced charity. I don't even think I mean, you could sit here and get into the numbers. I actually think that that's irrelevant. All of the percentages of what race gets what is entirely irrelevant. This whole program is stupid. This is an idiotic program. It is forced charity. It's actually not charity. It's welfare. And it has ballooned since its inception. I mean, eleventy times what it was originally. It is clearly not being used as a temporary safety net. It is being used as a lifestyle. That's why you got all these videos of people screaming about losing. I mean, these are like young people that can go out and work and they're screaming about losing benefits. As I said earlier, I don't think that if you're receiving government benefits, you should not you should not be able to vote. I don't think you should be able to vote. If you're getting government benefits, if you are receiving taxpayer-funded entitlements like SNAP, because it's actually at a disadvantage to the hardworking taxpayer, the government is buying your vote. The government's buying your vote. And if you want to be able to vote, then you should work very, very hard to immediately get off benefits. I don't have a problem with that, Cain. I mean, some of our founders didn't think you should be able to vote unless you own property. which I'm also not, I'm really sympathetic to that argument. I'll put it like that. Very sympathetic to that argument. But this is wild. This is unsustainable, guys. This is entirely unsustainable. And then you have Democrats out there. Republicans want people to starve. Let me tell you something. One of the biggest costs that families have to deal with is healthcare. In addition to their day-to-day living, healthcare expenses, their health insurance, coverage and care for their children. This is a huge issue. If you wanna talk about the cruelty of Republicans that are trying to save other hardworking taxpayers, by the way, these taxpayers are almost on entitlements too. They're so overburdened with high taxation. Healthcare costs because of Obamacare are killing people. The subsidies, the fact that you even have to have subsidies is proof that it doesn't work. It's proof that it's not fiscally sustainable. But what's more, they fought against tooth and nail, making it affordable. I always hear these accusations that Republicans didn't do anything. Let me tell you something. Republicans had not one, but they had three plans. One of them was really good. And that's one that, in fact, when Rand Paul was in the Senate, he was calling out saying that that needed to be brought up. And I think he actually did the compliment to that in the Senate, if memory serves. Now, this is back in like 2010. But there were three other pieces of legislation, each one of them better than what Democrats were were foisting on Americans. And what was included in this is portability, because they did not believe that the they did not believe that. People should have their insurance tied to their employer. You should be able to take it with you wherever you went. Supportability. They did not believe in the restrictions and regulations that prevented insurance companies from competing across state lines because who benefits when everyone's competing for your dollar? You do. You get lower costs, better service, better care, better plans, period. You do. You benefit. They were they also had really good rewrites of how insurance companies were handling pre-existing conditions the whole nine yards. Can you imagine having portable health insurance that you could afford, that's affordable for your whole family, that you could take wherever you moved in the country, didn't matter who your employer was, you would always have it with you? Democrats said hell no, and they fought tooth and nail to make sure those bills never got out of committee. That is fact. In fact, one of the bills I broke down on my radio program live on air. That's fact. So whenever they tell you that the GOP didn't have any have any proposals, that's an outright lie. Now, of the three, like I said, all three were better than the Democrat proposal. Of the three, one was better than the other two. It was like a gradient, you know, like Mama and Papa Bear and Goldilocks, right? This bed's too soft. This bed's too... But they didn't want to make it affordable. So I don't want to hear these Democrats complain now about worrying of affordability for Americans when they did everything possible to break them, not only with burdensome taxation, but with the exorbitant cost of health care. Don't want to hear it.
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