HR2 Rush To Reason March 27, 2025 by John Rush
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All right. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. Amy Robbins joining us now. She is a spokesperson for Parler, a political commentator as well. Welcome back, Amy. How are you?
SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, John, thanks so much for having me on tonight.
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I appreciate it very much. All right, let's talk about Donald Trump, the administration freezing federal family planning grants worth about $120 million.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, let's talk about that because, okay, before we really dive into it, I want to lay some context for people who, John, you and I both know, barely make it past the headlines, right? Okay. So first and foremost, we have to remember that around 75 million people went to the polls last November and voted for a new direction in this country. President Trump campaigned on two very important things. One, reducing wasteful spending within our federal government and getting rid of DEI programs at the federal level. So this move is really in a direct response to that. So this doesn't have anything to do with President Trump going out there and trying to eliminate abortion. That's not what's happening here for the people that that is extremely important to. But what this is what this is doing is the Health and Human Services has a responsibility to take a look at any organization that is receiving federal grants. They have to make sure that they are in compliance with the executive orders that President Trump signed recently, and that being diversity, equity, inclusion. So they're planning on freezing these funds until they have a chance to look and see if any of those funds are being allocated in a way or in a manner that actually goes against that executive order. So, you know, for me, I look at this and I say Planned Parenthood has operated in a way, I think, that... says that they're above the law. For so long, they have been piggybacking off of taxpayer dollars, providing services that more than 50% of the American taxpaying population doesn't want their taxpayer dollars going to in the first place. So I think in a roundabout way, it probably could be considered a win for a lot of people, even though they're using the backdoor tactics of going after DEI. I think people that are pro-life are looking at this as a potential win.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Now, when you talk about these particular organizations, do you have any you can name out that are receiving these funds?
SPEAKER 12 :
You mean the grants in general?
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Yeah, who's actually getting the money is my point.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I mean, you have to look at it very broadly. So this isn't just affecting Planned Parenthood. You've got schools that are being threatened right now, like colleges, universities, schools. places that are receiving grants for quote-unquote research projects. I mean, I think the biggest one that comes to mind right now is schools. So schools that are continuing to teach gender ideology, that are continuing to include DEI or critical race theory within their curriculum, like those type of programs are going to be looked at as if they're going to continue receiving federal funding or not.
SPEAKER 17 :
In other words, and that's where I was going with that, is it's not just the big name Planned Parenthood. There's a lot of different organizations that could be receiving our tax dollars is my point.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. You're exactly right. Like they're they're not. Yeah. And I think that's a lot of people are up in arms because they think, oh, my gosh, you know, President Trump is stopping the funding just for this. No, he's not. They're literally going in and looking at all of these institutions that are receiving these federal grants. He is not playing around when he says that he does not want DEI receiving money at the federal level. And so, yeah, they're taking a look at all the contracts and they're going to... As they should, but really quick, Amy. As they should.
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Yeah, not to interrupt, but as they should. I mean, realistically, this should have been stuff going on all along. It's gotten so out of hand that now that we're starting to really... How should I say this, Amy? It's like, I guess my picture in my mind would be, this is that runaway stagecoach where all of a sudden the stagecoach operator dropped the reins. They're now down running on the dirt. You watch the movies where he's now climbing on the horses trying to get the reins back. And literally, that's exactly what's happening right now.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's a beautiful picture because you're exactly right. That is what's happening. I was thinking on a more personal level to that. When I got married young, we had to put a budget in place so that our spending habits wouldn't get out of control. So what did we do? We had to look at the things that had to go. Those programs that weren't aligning with our goals. President Trump has a goal. and a mission for this country and it's going to hurt a little bit i remember when i had to get back on track yep get my spending under control it always hurts it always hurts a little bit but at the end of the day when we got a line and we got that spinning under control we got on budget we were able to achieve those goals. And I mean, he obviously has a much larger challenge out for him right now. But this is like, to me, the easiest place to start.
SPEAKER 17 :
But it's always, you know, on the same token, Amy, whether it's the federal government, we're talking trillions, or it's a home budget. I mean, the reality is, and I've explained it numerous times, your point, well taken, that family budget is... Yeah. Yeah. We're thirty six and a half trillion dollars in debt. The reality is it's going to be a little while before we actually feel some of that pain subside. But we got to start someplace.
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We do. And I mean, if you really look at it, he's got four years. He's got four years to make as impactful decisions. of cuts as he can possibly make. And I think this is a really great place to start because at the same time, every time he makes a cut like this and he blames on their DEI program, it is another way that it's opening people's eyes to what has truly been going on in this country over the last several years.
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You are exactly right. By the way, good analogy on your side of the fence as well when it comes to just a family budget and how that works. And the reality is if families don't get their budget, and by the way, Amy, some don't. Some families never figure this out. They go through that bankruptcy cycle. you know, every five to whatever years it happens to be, you know, how quickly you can actually go back into it again, which, no offense, that's probably another thing that needs to be revamped and quit doing that. But the reality is some learn, some do really well, some come out of it stronger than they went into it. And unfortunately, Amy, some never learn. And I'm afraid that we've got a political party right now that really doesn't care and they've never learned how this works.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, they haven't, but also if you look at what Doge is uncovering, we're starting to see why they have not been so keen on wanting to rein in their spending because we understand that they're getting a lot of their slush funds They're getting a lot of their special interest programs funded, things that we should never have been spending our taxpayer dollars on in the first place. And it just goes to show how deep this problem really has become and why. And I honestly think it's on both sides, why there are people on the Republican side and the Democrat side that don't want to rein this in because they don't want their pockets, their little piggy banks to get cut off.
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Yep. Yep. No, Amy, well said. I think you're 100 percent correct. There are people on both sides of the aisle. Spending can be a problem, by the way, on either side. That is not a political thing. Yes, I realize one party, I think, spends way more than the other because their goal is to ruin the country through their Marxist ideology. And spending, by the way, is one of those, although that disease spreads both ways.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely, because you think about the Republicans having the opportunity to cut the government. Like, they don't have to keep letting us raise the debt ceiling. Every single time there's a budget meeting that comes up, there's a vote on the budget. They don't have to keep allowing everybody to keep increasing their spending, but they do. So I think a lot of them are as much a part of the problem, unfortunately. And until they get a handle on this—so this is why President Trump is having to crack down so hard where he can— And what is within his executive power to do, because he knows he knows the game and he knows that we've never seen even the Republican side when they're in party and power cut back on that budget and not spending themselves.
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That's right. Amy, how do folks find you and talk about Parler for a moment as well?
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Oh, absolutely. So you guys can go and follow my show. It's called The Amy Robbins Show. All you have to do is go download Play TV. It's a brand new free speech, long video format platform. You can get it in the App Store. You can follow me on Instagram at The Amy Robbins or The Amy Robbins Show and follow along with all the wonderful things that we are doing over at Play TV and at Parler as well.
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Awesome. Amy, I appreciate it very much. You guys keep doing the great work you're doing. I thank you very much.
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Thanks for having me on. Have a good one.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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All right. To dovetail into what we were just talking about with Amy a moment ago on some of the things that, you know, Trump and the administration is trying to do. We talked about that with HHS and the revamping of things under Robert Kennedy Jr. We did that in the first hour with Dr. Kelly. My son just sent me this tweet that went out or this X that went out. UK's PM Starmer opens the door to trade wars with Trump over tariffs. Starmer has suggested that the U.K. could retaliate against any tariffs imposed by Trump. The prime minister said all options are on the table as officials continue intensive talks with the White House in an attempt to avoid the car tariffs of up to $25 billion. Such tariffs would risk crippling the British economy and would mean Rachel Reeves might have to launch a new tax raid in October. In other words... They're screwed. Now, he can be mad all he wants. In fact, all of these countries, I've said it over and over again. I'll keep saying it. All of these countries can be mad. Ask me if I care. I don't care. I don't care. And I've already gotten in trouble for, I guess, being hard on Canada. So I'll have to I don't care down here. I can do whatever I want to. I have to be careful on the podcast because we have all sorts of Canadian listeners. And yes, some of you Canadian listeners I know listen to me here. And, you know, I love y'all. This isn't personal. This isn't because I don't like folks from Germany or the UK or any other place around the world. No, no, no. This is just I love my country. And we've been getting screwed by a lot of you for far too long. And yes, I mean that sincerely. For example, German cars that come into the U.S., they have been tariffed in the past at about 2.5% is all. Yet our cars that go to Germany are tariffed at 10%. So tell me how that's fair. Two and a half to 10 seems like a pretty good spread there to me. Those of you that are mathematicians could do the math and figure out what that is. Why isn't it equal? And I think that's Donald Trump's point. Why isn't it equal? So, you know what, to make them equal, here's what he's going to do. You're 25% now. Until you guys can figure out how to make this equal, and by the way, Germany's already talking about going down to that same two and a half percent to avoid this 25% tariff. Why does it take, though, that threat... of the 25% to get you guys to play ball. And I think that's Donald Trump's point, by the way. What are you guys doing? And I know a lot of people think, well, this is just going to really hurt the American public, and we're all going to pay for it at the end of the day, and tariffs just a tax. Well, is it? And yeah, I get it. I know. I have said numerous times that all costs, all costs, that are bore by a company will eventually get passed down to the end user. I get that. But what happens in this particular case is maybe somebody that would have been shopping for an Audi that's coming from Germany will go and buy something else instead. They'll go buy an American vehicle instead. And a lot of people say, whoa, they're not the same quality. Yeah, BS. Yeah, they are, actually. Sorry, I talk about that on Drive Radio all the time. All those cars that are coming now from all over the world, they don't even make their own cars anymore. No one does. I talk about that constantly on the Saturday show. You can tune in for that if you want a better explanation. But the reality is no one makes their own car. They do what they call an RFP, a request for proposal, from all the different vendors out there that make, for example, a starter or an alternator or a seat. And they get bids, if you would, on, yeah, we can make that part for this. We'll supply that fuel injection for that. We'll do this wiring harness for X. And so all these companies, all of them, all of them, The only exception to this, by the way, is Tesla. Tesla makes the majority of its components here in the U.S. and even does its own stuff. For example, makes its own seats, which no one else does. And I'm not exaggerating in what I just said. If you don't believe me, go verify that. Go check it if you don't believe me. Nobody else building cars makes their own seats. I mean, maybe a Rolls Royce or somebody like that or a Ferrari might actually make their own stuff. But every common car made that most people are looking at buying, no, they don't make their own seats. They don't make their own alternators. They don't make their own wiring harnesses. They don't make their own glass. They don't make their own steering wheel. You get the drift. So people that come out and say, well, yeah, Audi's a much better car. Yeah, BS. No, it's not. No, it's not. Well, it lasts longer. No, it doesn't. Well, it's just a much better made vehicle. No, it isn't. In fact, right now, Germany is really struggling because of the various things I'm talking about right now. They put all of their eggs in one basket called the auto manufacturing basket, and the reality is because it's not doing as well as it once was, they're struggling. Their economy is struggling. If you don't believe me, go look it up. Go read for it yourself. You're, by the way, talking to a car expert. So those of you that might not believe what I'm saying, go check me. Go tell me I'm wrong. I'm not. So, yeah, what I'm going to tell the UK and Germany and others when it comes to these tariffs, especially on cars, you want to play ball, go for it. Have fun. Because here's the other reality. Does somebody really have to buy a new car? No. No. They don't. They can get by with driving what they're driving right now. There's plenty of repair shops and plenty of ability out there for a person to keep driving what they own for a very, very, very long time. And buying a new car, unless you're a fleet or a business or something along those lines, is not a necessity. It's not. Now, one thing that's not been talked about, by the way, in the automotive world, and I'm surprised it hasn't been, I was going to get to this at some point, but I might as well cover it now. One thing I'm surprised hasn't been talked about is the amount of cars that may not be purchased in the future by government entities, especially federal government, because of what Doge is doing. It'll be interesting to see if they actually start paying attention to that and realize that, wait a minute, we may not actually sell the amount of cars down the road that we have in the past because the feds may not be buying as much of them as they once were. Tom, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is Tom. Am I talking to John?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, it is. Go ahead, Tom.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, well, thank you very much. I had no idea that I was calling on to the radio. That's all right. Go ahead. I've heard you in the past, and I love you, and I trust you, and I've never met you. But anyway, I live in Louisville, Colorado. Okay. And I bought a 93 Chevy pickup truck Silverado 20 years ago from the first owner who owned a parts store.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right.
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And I have driven it for 20 years, and it's never had – I don't think it's had any problem with emissions tests. Okay. And I love my mechanic, who I've been going to for 10 years, let's say. And they just, there was something wrong with the, it was missing on a few. And they couldn't find out what it was. So my buddy said, we can change the plugs, the wires, the rotor, and the cap. We did that, and it didn't fix it. Then I brought it back to my mechanic, and they ran another test or whatever, and they They said they had an educated guest, which I didn't really like, but they were honest. And they replaced the ignition control module, and it did appear to fix it. Okay. And it's running, like, very good. Okay. And ironically, that was at 3 o'clock yesterday, and I went, I said, okay, thanks. hurry up, I've got to get out of here and go get emissions. I went to the emissions place, and it failed the NOx.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so too much NOx coming out of it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Okay. So then they said, and my mechanic's great, so I'm not even going to tell you who it is, because I'm not putting them down.
SPEAKER 17 :
Sure, sure, sure, understand.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, not a problem. And I had a full tank of gas, not knowing. And they said, no, go in there with a half a tank of gas or less, and tried to put the seafoam in there. So yesterday afternoon, I drove clear to Fort Collins and back, and then this morning, that was after I put the seafoam in, and then this morning, I drove up to Central City and back, and then went right back to Broomfield and did another test, and it failed all the time.
SPEAKER 17 :
all the uh things and so so what are you you in my in my opinion i have to see exactly the sheet that you've gotten if you if you sent me that via email i could help you with this tom directly but my gut feeling is you've got a a catalyst efficiency issue going on if the vehicle is running well it's smooth you don't have an engine miss or anything along those lines what you're telling me And not to say the other technician was wrong, but seafoam will sometimes clean some things up, but with what you're talking about, highly doubtful it will in half a tank of gas or a full tank of gas or a quarter tank of gas isn't going to make any difference on that. I'm guessing you have a catalyst efficiency issue. Okay. Meaning the catalytic converter is not working as well as it should.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Nope, I'm losing you, Tom.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm driving. Okay, there you go. Now you're back.
SPEAKER 17 :
Go ahead. I got you back. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is this something that you guys work on?
SPEAKER 17 :
No. Personally, I have a fleet operation, and I don't do any work whatsoever individually speaking. I've got shops, though, that are our sponsors and even some that are sponsors of this program during the week that can definitely help you. In Louisville, you've got two close facilities. You can either go over to Broomfield to Accountable Automotive and talk to Mark and the guys over there, or you can run to Boulder and talk to the guys at Legacy Automotive. You're about halfway between the two. You're probably closer to Ridgeline than going to Boulder, actually.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it doesn't matter to me. And Broomfield is where I was getting the emissions at.
SPEAKER 17 :
And Mark, by the way, is just down the street from the emissions center. He's literally in the same industrial area.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, well, then that's where I'd like to go.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, go talk to Mark at Accountable Auto. And you can look him up not on this website for this show, but drive-radio.com. Mark is listed there. It's Accountable Automotive.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Mark at Accountable Automotive.com.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you a million. You bet, Tom. No, thank you. No, appreciate it. Talk to Mark.
SPEAKER 17 :
Tell him I sent you. Okay. All right, man. Appreciate you very much. John and Cheyenne, hang tight. I'll come right back to you as well. Golden Eagle Financial is coming up next. Al Smith would love to help you with your future finances, getting to retirement, staying to retirement, making sure you've got a plan for retirement. Talk to Al today. Go to klzradio.com. Sorry, technical difficulties on our screen. So I'll tell you what, let's do this. We'll come back to Golden Eagle in a moment. John, let's take you next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, John. So you're talking about the difference between American and European, Japanese, you know, whatever cars.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is there really a difference anymore? I don't think so.
SPEAKER 17 :
And really quick, John, I know that I'm going to get all sorts of hate email on that because some are going to say, oh, I've been driving this vehicle for this many miles and, you know, you're full of crap and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm going to get all of the hate mail on that, John, because people are going to say, well, you know, Toyota's better and this is better and that's better and blah, blah, blah. John, it really comes down to, I believe to this day, it comes down to how well are you taking care of the vehicle? Who's driving the vehicle? Yes, there are some vehicles that are better than others. That's a whole other conversation I could probably get to on a Saturday. But really, John, at the end of the day, no. Go buy what fits you the best and what you like.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, what you need. I mean, there are people who I know a guy. I knew a guy. He bought five Raptors in a row. He traded it in every other year for the newest version.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just because that's what he wanted to do.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good for him. He kept them garaged. And he only drove them in the summertime, so he would trade them in with like 15,000 miles on it. I was like, you're losing money when you do that. Oh, I just want the new one.
SPEAKER 17 :
Evidently, he has enough to spend. It doesn't matter, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he didn't. He got really sick during the Gulf War, and he knew his time was numbered. He has since passed, but he was at the point where he didn't care. He was going to drive the nicest truck he could. But anybody, I mean, look at me and my wife. Both of our trucks are over 150,000 miles. There's nothing wrong with them at all. I would loan my red truck with 236 out to anybody. Say just, you know, here you go. You need to use it, whatever. There's nothing wrong with it because they take care of it. Does it drive the same as it did when it had 5,000 miles on it? No, because it's an older vehicle. But for people that say, well, you can't get 200,000 miles out of a Ram or out of a F-150, you're crazy.
SPEAKER 17 :
All day long you can, actually.
SPEAKER 08 :
All day long. I mean, all you have to do, whether it's a Toyota, whether it's a Lexus. I mean, Toyota Lexus, they're made by the same company, so to speak.
SPEAKER 17 :
They are. No, it is the same company. It is the same.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, I always laugh because every now and then I'll see a Lexus that looks almost exactly the same as my 4Runner. And I'm like, that's built on a 4Runner frame.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I'm sure there's one. Because you remember back in the late 70s when the Cutlass, the Monte Carlo, the Grand Prix, and the Regal were. They looked exactly alike except for, you know, basic differences. Correct. But when I was in Germany the last time on vacation, they rented us an Audi. And the thing, yes, the beautiful car, it drove beautiful. Was it worth? I looked up the price of it when we got back. It was not worth what they were asking for it in the U.S.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But, you know, there's a great, I can't remember the name of it, but one of the old Tom Clancy books with Jack Ryan, the originals. Okay. He wrote about this exact tariff thing where the U.S. was imposing the tariff equal to what the other countries were doing. And this was like 30 years ago when he wrote that book. And all I look at it from the tariff side is what's fair.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is it fair? You know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and by the way, I think that's exactly what the current administration is trying to get people to understand is, no, it's not fair. And somebody just texted me and said that that actually, if you really get into it and dig into it, Germany, actually, it's more like 20 percent. There's a 10 plus another 10. I didn't read that. That could very well be. I'm not going to argue that point because it could very well be the case. In fact, it might even be as high as 25 on Germany. you know, on U.S. imports into Germany. Reality, John, is it's not fair. We've been getting screwed all these years and needs fixed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. And there's a prime example. When I was stationed in Germany and I shipped the car over and they told me pretty much, if you're shipping it over, you're shipping it back. They won't let you sell it over there unless you sell it to another American.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Another military person.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, you know, they paid to ship it over and ship it back, so I shipped it back and had a car over there while I was, you know, while I was stationed there. Which, John, driving on an Autobahn with no speed limit is a lot of fun.
SPEAKER 17 :
I can imagine.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know the scary thing, though? I was in a Pontiac Firebird 87. I know it wasn't the greatest car, but I liked it at the time. And I was doing 130 miles an hour. I got past like I was standing still by a Mercedes. Wow. That's how fast those people drive over there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
And so, you know, like I was standing still. And what was funny, you could tell because if you saw a Porsche coming up behind you, you best better get out of his way because he was going. I swear I saw a Porsche probably doing about 160 go by. Wow. And that's, you know, but everybody over there drives fast. More attentive than we do. I'm not saying they're better drivers. I'm saying what they spend to learn to drive, because it cost them about five times what it cost us to go to, like, driver's ed.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
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And what they spend and what they cost. Insurance was expensive, too, over there. But what they spend, those people really paid attention to their driving. I don't know what it's like today, but I don't think they're talking on, you know, got cell phone help for their air.
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Makes sense. Makes sense.
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John, man, I appreciate it.
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All right, we are back. Jeff and Golden, you're next. Go ahead, sir. Hello? Hey, Jeff.
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Hey, a question from you.
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Yeah.
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I've got an 02 Excursion. It's got 326,000 miles on it. Wouldn't trade it for anything. Awesome. 7.3 diesel. I've always been a Toyota guy, and I've actually only bought one new vehicle in my entire life.
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Which proves that you don't have to buy new cars to still have transportation.
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So I'm in a Toyota work truck right now with 150 on it, and... That's that. Second thing, what's your opinion on, I'm a car guy, but I'm not an expert like you. I love driving. I got a 13 911 S and a 17 Cayenne 4.8 twin turbo. What are your opinions on those things?
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Well, the 911, don't get rid of it. It's going to do nothing but continue to increase in value. Unfortunately, the Cayman won't be quite as valuable down the road as the 911 because it's not a 911. There's something about that 911 that just makes those things continue to go up and up and up in value. I saw some at Mekin Auto Auction this past weekend that literally just, it's like you just shake your head at the kind of money that those things continue to bring. So, yeah, if there's any car you're ever going to sell, make sure it's not the 911.
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And I'm sorry, maybe I misspoke. It was a Cayenne. Are you a fan of the big twin-turbo V8s?
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I don't think – well, two sides of that. Am I a fan of having it, driving it, and so on? Absolutely. Is it going to retain its value and do as well as what a 911 will down the road? No, they won't.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, they won't. Sure, sure. Thank you so much. All right, Jeff.
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No, great questions, by the way. Appreciate it. And good cars, by the way. Have fun with those, Jeff, and enjoy. And again, going back to just the whole hype that right now is coming out of all sorts of different things. I was watching last night, my son and I were going back and forth on some of what was happening with Toyota stock, which was suspended, trading was, for a while last night because of the big dip that it took. And And by the way, I don't know why. I think because, frankly, sometimes Wall Street and traders are just absolute knuckleheads. I mean, I don't know why they think that that's going. I mean, yes, tariffs are going to have an impact on a lot of different companies. And I'll run through really quick because there is a listing that came out. this morning on what companies make how much of their American sold vehicles, how many of those are actually made in the U.S. In other words, the share of U.S. sold vehicles that are made in the U.S. So Tesla, of course, 100% because they make everything here. Rivian, same thing. They make everything here. Ford, 78% of what they sell is made here. Honda, 64% of what they make is actually sold here. Stellantis, which is... Fiat, Chrysler, Ram, Dodge, you get the drift. 57%, so actually they're below Honda. Subaru, 56% of what they make or what they sell is made here. Nissan is at 53%. GM, which you would think would be upwards of where Ford is, but the company itself is run by a bunch of knuckleheads. I'm sorry. I don't know what to say. And I've been a GM guy most of my life, grew up with them, still have a fondness for them, I guess because it's in my blood. It's what I grew up with. But those knuckleheads, because of what they don't know what to do in running a company, 52%. And yes, that is one of the two American car companies, Ford and GM. Ford, by the way, 78%. GM, 52%. BMW is 48%, which is the same as Toyota, which is 48%. Mercedes, and again, these guys have plants and things here where they're making vehicles here, 43%. Hyundai, 33%. Volkswagen, 21%. They're really going to get killed, by the way, on some of these tariffs and such. Mazda, 19%, and Volvo only 13%. So, yeah, tariffs are going to affect some of these individual companies. And trading, again, with Toyota stock late last night was suspended for a while because, I guess, because of just the fears of what the tariffs are going to do to them and their stock value and so on. And, again, how will some of this stuff get – you know get shaken out as time goes by don't know don't know i do know this when i was reading earlier about what the you know what the you know not only the eu but in this particular case what the uk which i always have to make sure that i specify this because remember the uk is not just england It's all of the greater area. The UK, I believe, don't quote me on this because I'm not an expert on geography in the UK, but I believe, Charlie, the UK is Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, and there's one other country I want to throw into there that all make up the UK. This is the prime minister of the U.K. talking about the trade war itself and acting like he's going to puff his chest out and get all excited, I guess. And I guess he feels like he can put some sort of a dent in what actually comes to the U.S. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. And again, I'm not speaking ill of anybody that lives in that area or is from that area. And if you're from that area, I'm not speaking ill. I'm just saying good luck. Good luck. The United States of America. This is something I think the rest of the world sometimes forgets. And by the way, it's something the left forgets on an ongoing basis. The United States of America, we have close to $30 trillion GDP, gross domestic product. What we consume in the U.S. is roughly $30 trillion. And I'm doing this from memory, so if you want to go look this up and see how close I am, be my guest. The next closest country, of course, is China, and they're in the low 20s. Still not close to where we are. And then from there, it really takes a jump down, and you could even combine a bunch of countries, and it still doesn't equal what the U.S. does. Not exaggerating, by the way. You can go look. This is public information. Any of you that are out there listening, you that are on the right, the left, the middle, whatever, you can go check my numbers. We are so far ahead. of any other country, that when these other countries start running around and acting like they're going to have some sort of a big dent in what we do, you know, Canadians, you know, you guys as well, you think you're going to have some sort of a dent in what we do? I mean, people forget that Canada is a country of 35 million people, roughly. 35 million. We're 350 million-ish. A little low, a little high, whatever. We're right in that area. We're right in about that $350 million. So Canada's 10% of us. That's it.
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10%.
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With, by the way, the lion's share of Canadians living in the area where Canada dips down into the U.S. When I say dips down, I know it's still Canada. But people forget that there's actually more Canadians... that live in that section of land across the upper part of the U.S. If you go look at a map and you look at what I'm talking about, keep in mind that there's only a few big cities in the U.S. that are above that line. Detroit, Seattle, probably Boston. I mean, there's a few larger cities that are above that line, but reality is there's more Canadians living below that area than U.S. citizens. Not in Canada. In other words, Canadian citizens below that geographical line, there's more of them than there is us, than there is U.S. citizens. And that's just because of the way Canada dips down and there's a lot of people living in that Toronto area and so on, above Buffalo, above Michigan and so on. Point being, Canada acts like there's some sort of a world leader when it comes to production and things along those lines. And they act like they can have some sort of a big dent in what we do here in America. And yeah, no offense. It's like a mosquito. I'm sorry to say it that way, but it is. In fact, outside of China, there's not another country that even comes close to consuming and or producing what we do. Not even close. And what Donald Trump is trying to do, I believe, in the White House right now is get us on a more even keel and even get us back on track manufacturing wise and so on. So that there's incentive even for other other countries, other companies that are in other countries to actually build and do things here versus having those things imported like we're currently doing. It's why companies like Hyundai have agreed to, you know, have said, not agree, but have said, we're going to spend $25 billion and invest building cars in the U.S. We want to build a million cars in the U.S. Now, that's forward thinking and they're being very smart in what they're thinking about. We as a country consume more than anyone else. Why would you not want to be here and do that and avoid all the tariffs and shipping costs and on and on and on we go? Why would you not just want to compete here on this level playing field here in America? And what Donald Trump is doing is going to make more of that happen. It's why we see chip companies agreeing to spend billions of dollars here. It's why the UAE, which I talked about yesterday, is going to spend $1.4 trillion. And remember, folks, and I talked about this on the podcast. Some of you may have heard that last night. You'll hear it again Saturday morning if you want to listen then. But the reality is these are not things – this is where the left, by the way, doesn't understand or doesn't want to admit – These are decade-long, or decades, plural, long investments from other countries, other companies in other countries, when they talk about that type of an investment. I mean, if you think, for example, even going on the small side with Hyundai at $25 billion, if you think Hyundai's going to just do that and then another administration comes in in the next three and a half years... four years, whatever it is, if you think that because a new administration comes in in four years, all of a sudden Hyundai is going to pack up and go someplace else, that's not how that works. These companies are building for their own future, and they're going to be here to stay, and it doesn't matter who is in charge at that point in time. They're going to continue to stay here and keep doing business. Same thing with the chip companies, same thing with other car companies that would decide to build here, and so on. So is what Donald Trump doing, is what he is doing, is it going to make a big difference in our overall economy as time goes by? Absolutely. This is a pivotal time for us as Americans. And if we keep at it, we will continue to benefit from these things moving forward. Absolutely. So anyways. We'll see how all this pans out, trust me, as time goes by. Paul Leuenberger, speaking of cars and all of the things involved with that, insurance becomes a big deal for a lot of you listening, for all of us, by the way. Give my good friend Paul a call. He'll walk you through all the insurance end of things. 303-662-0789.
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All right. Not that many of you probably travel to France, but if some of you listening are or you know someone that is or have a family member that is, France has updated its travel advice for U.S. citizens. And what it means is that it is warning travelers that you are now required to declare your gender assignment at birth when completing visa or ESTA applications. The move follows growing international concern over a decree signed by President Trump on January the 20th. Yeah, because Trump said there's two genders, male and female. And in a lot of ID situations, you're going to have to put down what you were assigned at birth, which, in other words, what were you when you were born? Jeez, how hard is this? Are you male or are you female? Were you born with an innie or an outie? How difficult is this, folks? It's not hard. Sorry, this is really easy. You guys on the left want to make this really hard, and it's not. So go back to the way things were. Make it simple once again. Any Audis, it's easy. Move on from there, and off we go. All right, Hour 3 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, welcome. Thursday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Of course, Dr. Kelly Victory joining us today. I'll start with her. Dr. Kelly, welcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, how are you doing? I'm happy to be back. Lots going on. Lots going on on the health care side in Washington.
SPEAKER 09 :
Always. We'll get to that here in a moment. I'll welcome Steve next. Steve, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I'm trying to recover from the flu, but I'm getting there, and I'm capable for the show today, so I'm fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I appreciate you very much. And for those of you listening, maybe for the first time, you can go check out all of what we've done with Dr. Kelly, her credentials, the things we've talked about literally for the past five years. Go to RushToReason.com. But speaking of all of that, Dr. Kelly, yes, lots of things going on, lots of even— How should I say this? Things in the news of late as to what, you know, the COVID itself, the vaccines and what they're still finding on them and so on. We'll get into some of that today. But on the health care front, speaking of the government end of things, give us an update.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I think the biggest thing that happened certainly so far in this administration is the announcement today that HHS is making fundamental transformations of the agencies themselves. You, Steve, and I just talked about this a week or so ago with regard to how many different agencies fall under HHS. And we were certain that there was redundancy in many of those things, everything from human resources to, you know, all the different administrative components that And it looks like that has been recognized. They're doing a huge restructuring. It will end up decreasing the number of full-time employees at HHS and their different agencies from around 82,000 to 62,000. So a decrease of 20,000 employees. It's predicted to save the taxpayers nearly $2 billion a year through the reduction in redundancy there. And they're really going to focus on the things they should be focusing on to end this epidemic of chronic disease. And those things are clean water, wholesome nutrition, and eliminating environmental toxins. rather than things like creating transgender mice and spending money on things that are not delivering tangible results to the American people.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, too, the one thing that never really gets talked about as well, and you being on the admin side, I mean, Dr. Kelly can talk to this as well, but you're on the admin side, and you cut these people, and yes, there's a savings of the payroll itself, but there's always all of the other ancillary things that it takes to have an employee working, and I'm not just talking the tax burden and FICA tax and all that kind of stuff. I'm talking literally what it takes to actually house and have that person around and the things needed to keep that employee around, it adds up over time, right? Well, yeah.
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I mean, you first start with the concept that about 30% of their salary is how much it costs us extra to provide benefits. And the government benefits are better than most. It's probably a little bit higher than that. You do have all the office time, you have expenses, you have everything else that goes with that. But here's the other problem. I mean, if you even look at the state of Colorado, I mean, I worked inside the Medicaid organization and, It took years, several years, if not four or five years, to replace an IT system inside the state office on Medicaid, which in and of itself would have reduced the need for some labor, would have made things more efficient, better customer service. The problem in Washington, D.C. right now is the IT structures there. We've seen people say that the IRS, that all these other things are six years away from state of the art. And they've said that every year for the last 25 years. So all of these people, many of the redundancies are probably, John, because they just have really lousy systems that they haven't fixed and they just overcome them with people.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dr. Kelly, you're on the receiving end of that as a doctor, and you know how a lot of this works in regards to the forms that have to be filed and the things that have to be done billing-wise and so on. And I've heard personally from doctors like you that I have known that in some cases they just, well, Dr. Scott, for example, is one of those. They just get out of it. No more insurance, no more messing around with all that nonsense. I'll concentrate on patient care and get rid of all of this red tape that literally is out there. It's far too much. Will we ever see an end to some of that?
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I think we will, and I think this is on the right path. It remains to be seen what will happen at CMS, Center for Medicare and Medicaid, that's going to be run by Mehmet Oz. But they need to eliminate so much of the red tape involved in that and in the insurance industry. For every single physician on the front lines, there are five or six people in the back office just trying to manage the insurance and get paid for Trying to get in network with an insurer is very, very difficult. It's an owner's task. And these are all activities that do nothing to improve the health or wellness of any of your patients. It's a bunch of paperwork and paper pushing that takes up insane amounts of time and does nothing, which is why we end up where we are right now with the fattest, most sedentary, you know, You know, highest rates of diabetes, obesity, hypertension, kidney disease. It's really a pathetic state of affairs. And it's because we've been wasting our time, money and resources on paperwork rather than taking care of patients.
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Steve, when it comes to some of the IT end of things, which you're very familiar with as well, I think one of the things for me personally that I get frustrated over is just the simple fact that we've got private sector companies that do really well at developing the things that we need governmentally speaking that would streamline A lot of things. And I have to believe that either one of two things has happened over the years. It's either one of those things where nobody wants change and or the amount of government red tape it takes to go through some of those changes. Most don't want to do or those quotes get, you know, those those bids get so overinflated because of what I just said that at the end of the day, they just keep doing what they do year after year after year. And to your point, now, some 25 years later, this updated system we were supposed to have, we still don't.
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Well, yeah. In fact, almost every large corporation that works in the tech space or even in the food service space, anything that supplies stuff that the government would consume will have a commercial division and they'll have a government piece. And so you just think about that. So why do you need a separate group of people just to work with the government? And the answer is because systems are archaic, processes and regulations are overdone. It takes way too much time. So you literally dedicate individual people. It would be like you having an auto mechanic business, and you had one or two guys who would do nothing but service government vehicles because the regulation to do the service was so much more intense than in a good commercial practice. Coupled with that, the combination of systems that we do have, We test, we looked at doctors' schedules over the last year. A doctor will be off six days a month in some cases, and in that six days, they log on to the EHR and do charting and other things virtually every day. You rarely ever find one person, one doctor, who takes one full day off in a month on a regular 12-month basis. They're always working, so that's why they're burnt out.
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And that's why, Dr. Kelly, we have a lot of doctors that have switched over to either a concierge practice or they go specialize in what people can criticize. They go to plastic surgery or they go do other things that don't involve insurance where the customer is directly paying. And frankly, at the end of the day, are probably a lot happier and wealthier when it's all said and done and probably have happier patients.
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Oh, without question. Listen, my veterinarians got it figured out. They won't even look at your pet until you give them your credit card. Okay. And frankly, with medicine, it is amazing is no longer, you know, the something that people should go into if they think they're going to make, you know, a significant amount of income. The amount that you actually are able to recoup from the insurance companies, the reimbursements are very, very low. And once you have to be paying that five or six people in the back office in order to get it, it truly has impacted doctors' bottom line. So doctors are working more hours. They're working more than ever, getting paid less than ever. and their quality of life and job satisfaction is very low. At the same time, the experience for the patients is lousy because in order to make ends meet, doctors are scheduling their patients tighter and tighter. You have less and less time. It's very, very common for people to tell me when they go to see their doctor, their experience is, The doctor either never sits down or has his or her hand on the doorknob the entire time that they're talking to the patient. That's not a good optic. It doesn't make people feel that they're being listened to or being cared for. And frankly, it becomes just algorithmic protocol driven medicine rather than the doctor actually sitting down, taking time, listening to your individual concerns and crafting a care plan that is tailored to you and your specific health care issues.
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Almost in bear with me here, Dr. Kelly, because I don't know exactly what it was like in the real old days where you had traveling doctors with the black bag. They went from house to house and so on. Now, I did grow up in a time where we didn't have a lot of the insurance nonsense that we had today. you know, folks paid out of pocket for a lot of smaller things. You had a catastrophic plan and things like that. But it almost seems like everything you just said a moment ago, Dr. Kelly, that we're almost going back in time. And the way I want to explain that is, and I think I'm correct in this, Dr. Kelly, at one point in time, being a doctor wasn't really looked upon like we look upon doctors today. I was at a trivia thing last night, and one of the questions was, it was the bonus question, what's the most rewarding job out there? The answer was... Doctor, well, have we switched to where it's not that any longer because of what you just said, Dr. Kelly? And there was a time even here in the U.S. where being a doctor actually was frowned upon.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely, and frankly, I think it is not the most rewarding thing at all, unfortunately, because of the amount of red tape. When I was growing up, we did have a pediatrician who made house calls. We went to see that doctor in the office for routine things, for which we paid cash, by the way. When the doctor made a house call, including on Christmas Day or whatever, it was a holiday, six brothers and sisters, somebody was always sick. I can absolutely recall my father either handing him cash or writing a check if he didn't have cash because that was what was expected. So our pediatrician didn't have to waste time filing insurance claims. We had insurance, and you had to have it in case, God forbid, you had a car accident or you fell off the roof and broke your arm and needed surgery, things like that. It's what we called major medical back in the day or catastrophic insurance coverage. Everything else... You know, the the antibiotics that you took for your strep throat or your routine immunizations or your well baby check got paid for in cash because that's how it's supposed to work. Insurance was never meant to cover routine things. I use the example all the time. Can you imagine what car insurance, you know, your industry, John, what car insurance would cost? If you expected your car insurance to cover filling up your car with gas and getting the tires rotated and the oil change, it would be astronomical.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. No, you're 100% correct. And again, Steve, I'm not trying to downplay current doctors by any means. I mean, I value all of them and appreciate what they do, but it almost seems like we're disincentivizing even new people to come into that field because of what Dr. Kelly just said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so a couple of things. Number one, when I was growing up, If you were really sick and it was hard to see a doctor, you just went to Galilee and talked to Jesus directly about getting recovery. That was the only way it was back in those days. But in all truthfulness, one of the things I do remember, and certainly the demographics support this, the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, you know, the baby boomers were in the heart of their lives. We didn't have and I was born in 1960. We didn't have the same level of vaccines. We didn't have the same level of food problems. So and there wasn't this huge demographic that there is right now that is old. Right. I mean, that's essentially my age. Right. The baby boomers. I mean, the youngest baby boomers were born in 64 years. You know, that aging process has created this massive demand for health care, and the pharmaceutical companies have been more than happy to find drugs to deal with symptoms. And to go back to Kelly's vet example for a second, if you go to your vet and you know you're going to pay $500 because your dog's overweight and they need a hip replacement, When the vet tells you what you need to do for your dog, you do it because you don't want to pay $500 the next time you show up. That's right. So you're more incentivized by paying for the bill yourself.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you get better outcomes that way.
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No liberal media bias here. This is Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly, Victory, Steve House with us as well. All right, a few text messages that came in. I'll start with this one, Dr. Kelly. Somebody actually texted me yesterday and said, would I ask you this today? And that is kids going back to school, things along those lines. Some of that will happen in the fall, although some are getting things registered and getting things ready even for next fall. Now, some schools requiring certain vaccines that you as a parent may not agree with. What do you do in that particular situation?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I would absolutely encourage people to push back. I would ask for a you know, you can try to get a religious exemption. You can get a personal choice exemption. I believe that if you bide your time, many, if not all of the vaccine mandates are likely to go away under this new administration. There's tremendous impetus for them to do that. Robert Kennedy Jr. is certainly aware that this is on everybody's radar. It's something that I believe they are working on. President Trump has already signed an executive order to eliminate mandates in any country. state or federally funded universities. So I think it will happen. I would push back. I would use it as a personal exemption and say that your child can stay in school until such time as it gets litigated. And I would not give in to pressure. If you feel strongly about it, I would hold your ground. I think the issue is that we've got to push back. We've got to demand that we get some sort of relief from the government, and I think it is coming. So I would bide your time, I guess is what I'm saying, because I believe In the same way that I said this about the COVID shots themselves. People said, well, I have to take one because I can't travel. I can't do this. And I said, bide your time because the mandates will go away. And sure enough, they did. So those of us who stood our ground are looking pretty good right now. And I feel badly for the people who did not or felt that they could not stand their ground at the time. This will go away, I believe. And I think it's going to happen in this administration.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and Steve, you can chime in on that, too, if you would like. By the way, thank you, Dr. Kelly, for that, and I think that listener is probably listening. If not, I'll make sure that I text that back. Your thoughts on all that, Steve?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, first of all, state constitutions mandate that all children who live in the state are entitled to an education. Yes, there are rules that the states can make around education. But one of the challenges I would have is to say, look, it's absolutely my child's right to go to school. I'm not getting them vaccinated because I don't believe that it's healthy and proper for them to be vaccinated. And you are not allowed to control the health of my child. So that's one thing. Number two, if it is mandatory and that's the only way, I've got a form for you to sign that says if my child is vaccine injured, you will assume liability for his medical care. And, you know, those are really fighting words, but I've just gotten so sick of the idea that with all of the data regarding children and COVID vaccines, especially why they would still have that posture is beyond me. And frankly, somebody ought to hold them liable for it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Agreed. This one I want to slip in just because I think it's a little bit easier question maybe, Dr. Kelly, for you. What's better for sleep, melatonin or magnesium glycinate?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't think there's a better or worse. I think people need to pick the one that works for them. For some people, melatonin does a brilliant job. For others, it's magnesium. Not me. It's a combination of the two. Yeah, not me.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, for some odd reason, that stuff keeps me up, and I do not know why. I can't answer why, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 11 :
And as I said, you have to figure out what's best for you. I'm the same way with Benadryl. Benadryl is the active ingredient in over-the-counter sleep aids like Sominex. I take a Benadryl when I'm climbing off the walls. So it's the worst possible thing for me. So it's a very independent. There's not one that's better or worse. I think both of them are reasonable things to try, meaning magnesium and melatonin are both reasonable things to try. The best thing you can do, frankly, I hate to say. is to put down your blue screens, put down the phone, put down the iPad, turn off the TV some hours before you actually want to go to sleep when most people do exactly the opposite. Most people are on their iPad in bed those screens emit blue light, and that blue light turns off the portion of your brain that normally naturally produces melatonin. Melatonin is something we all have in our bodies, but we aren't producing enough of it in some part because of the amount of time we spend in front of screens that emit blue light. So I think the best thing you can do is get into some better sleep habits, including turning off your screen some hours before you want to go to bed, and obviously then, you know, things like avoiding caffeine or those sorts of things for a number of hours.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Next one, and there's some video going around. I got this text earlier. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I recommend a simple solution. It's called Jack Daniels. You do that, and it will help you sleep. There you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, there's that too.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. On a more serious note, I've been studying some of the testing that came through MKUltra and some of these other things that were done by the CIA. And one of the things that they talked about was that they used blue screens to actually try to influence people's minds on issues, right? So not only is it turning off the melatonin, but I think sometimes it's talking to you. I think they're trying to message you. And that makes it even worse. I couldn't echo Kelly's stuff more. You need to shut it down. Read an actual book. Yeah. Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you might be better off. All right. Video going around. I think I sent this to both of you as well. We'll talk about this. I want to spend a little more time here because there's I still think a lot of how should I say this? There's just a lot of stuff out there. I don't I don't want to say it's good, bad or otherwise. There's just a lot of stuff out there when it comes to MRNA and even the repercussions of COVID itself. And there's some folks out there now basically claiming that. You know, there are ways to get rid of the shot in your body. They can last anywhere from two to three years. And there are things you can do to actually, quote, unquote, flush your system of the mRNA. And Dr. Kelly, as I was watching some of that earlier today, I thought, well, that's not what I have heard you say. Unless something has changed here of late, I thought once that mRNA is in you, it's in you.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is, and certainly I am unaware at this juncture of any way to eliminate the mRNA. There are absolutely ways to decrease the toxic component, which is the spike protein. To be clear, the mRNA gives the roadmap or the instruction manual, if you will, for your cells to start producing the spike proteins. And that we know is the toxic portion of the virus is that spike protein itself. There are numbers of things that we know that will decrease the concentration of spike protein, and that includes some enzymes like natokinase and bromelain. I am unaware at this point, unfortunately, of how to rid yourself of the mRNA, so I'd love to hear what these folks are thinking. And maybe that is really the brass ring. What we need to come up with is a way to eliminate the mRNA or to turn it off at a minimum, even if you don't eliminate, to tell it to stop sending the messages to your cells to produce these toxic proteins. As at this point, you know, we are now 709 days was the longest study that shows that people who are vaccinated are continuing to produce new spike proteins two years after they were last injected. That's very scary.
SPEAKER 09 :
And at the same time, Steve, promoting that you keep getting re-injected. So we've still got that going on all the way down into infants, by the way, which we didn't get a chance to talk about much last week. Steve, this is just craziness.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know it's three times in your first year starting out at like six months. I have a question for Kelly. I mean, I listen to Kelly while I'm on the radio station with you guys all the time. And my question, Kelly, is, you know, there's been a lot of things good and bad done with CRISPR over the years. Do you think there's some guys out there with CRISPR who are trying to figure out how to alter or change the genetics enough to kill the spike protein and repair? You know, what's going on? I mean, is that, I mean, those are, those are sometimes scary things, but I just wondered if you'd heard anything about that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, that's certainly what people are working on or looking for because, as I said, that's the brass ring. You can continue to eliminate spike proteins, but the bottom line is, you know, it's kind of the difference between, you know, putting an ant trap out and catching, you know, the ants that are out there versus eliminating, you know, the nest. You're trying to eliminate where these things are coming from. Otherwise, you're just in a perpetual cycle. cycle of trying to eliminate the toxin. So absolutely, there are folks who are looking at how do we turn off the mRNA, if not actually eliminating that genetic component from the cell nucleus, how do you actually turn it off so it's not sending the messages? And it may, ironically, be with another mRNA injection. It may take mRNA to turn off the original mRNA. which is scary and is going to have, you know, there's going to be a lot of resistance to that, but that may be the ultimate fix. You would think these are the kinds of things, by the way, that should have been hashed out before they injected, you know, more than half of the planet with this stuff. You know, this is not the time to be looking to say, oh, by the way, how do we eliminate this or turn it off? You know, where's the off switch? Oh, we forgot about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Here in the U.S., Dr. Kelly, as you know, and Steve as well, it's like 80% of the folk out there ended up getting at least one of the shots. Steve, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, you know, look, if they don't figure this out, I mean, because the numbers on not only the spike protein being produced after two years, it's how much of it is being produced. It's a large quantity. And then we saw that article this week about the cancer impact. I mean, I honestly, you know, we don't try to scare people on the show. But if you told me what I know now about the spike protein and what it does. And the risk of cancer, I would have a hard time sleeping a lot of days just knowing that when I wake up tomorrow, something's going to be growing because this stuff is so heinously bad. I mean, it's just really, really bad. And I think people should be worried about it. I think, you know, they should encourage people to find solutions to it because if they don't find solutions to it, as we talked about earlier, you know, a thousand people will die. You never knew and never thought about it. And they'll just keep doing it until there's none of us left.
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House. Again, if you're new, just listening for the first time, go to our website, RushToReason.com. There's a page there dedicated to Dr. Kelly and links to a lot of the things that we have talked about over the past five years plus. Dr. Kelly, I'm thinking out loud. And there was an article that we were sending around to one another talking about the turbo cancers, things, by the way, that you talked about a while back. And a lot, unfortunately, I'm not celebrating this, but a lot of what you and Steve both talked about several years ago are now coming to fruition, and they keep coming. keeps growing and getting larger. So the question I have, knowing that I talked to a lot of people, not only you on Thursdays, but during health and wellness, I talked to a lot of different people about nutrition and health and cancers and so on. And knowing that, you know, cancers feed off of sugar and frankly, other bad habits health wise. If I were somebody that had happened to get a shot and maybe now regret getting it, but there's, as we've talked, really no reversal of at this point in time, would it behoove me to, to take myself completely off of all things sugar, reduce my carbs, in other words, try to eat as clean, quote-unquote, as possible to try to counter some of that, or does it make any difference?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think it makes a huge difference. There's no question for anybody, independent of your vaccine status and whether or not you've put yourself at increased risk for developing cancer because you've taken one or more mRNA injections. I think it makes sense for everybody. We now recognize... cancer is largely a metabolic disease. It is not just a genetic disease the way that we once thought, and it has to do a lot with the American diet. The fact that we eat so much sugar, that we eat so frequently, that we rarely go without eating, meaning short periods of fasting, and we eat tremendous amounts of sugar, as you said, which is the preferred energy source for cancers. So I think it moves everybody to limit the amount of sugar that they take. Americans eat a tremendous amount of added sugar. And just becoming more cognizant of that, start looking at labels and starting to decrease the amount of added sugar that you take in on a regular basis. In my mind, there's absolutely no justification for anybody to drink a regular soft drink today. If you don't like diet drinks and there are lots of reasons not to drink them, then go to seltzer water, mineral water, iced tea, something else. The amount of sugar in a can of regular soda is astronomical and there's no justification for it. Save your sugar for something else. With regard to the increased risk of cancers from these shots, yes, as you said, I did predict it. I predicted it early on before the shots were rolled out. I said this is going to cause cancer. It's going to suppress the immune system, and the immune system is the first line of defense against cancers, unfortunately. what I predicted has come to fruition in a really tragic way. We are seeing overwhelming numbers of turbo cancers, meaning very, very aggressive cancers and cancers that are happening in people in age groups in which we never saw them before. And what I'm talking about is things like aggressive colon cancers in people in their teens and 20s, aggressive ovarian cancers in women in their 20s and 30s, in recurrence of cancers that had been in remission sometimes for well over a decade, now coming back with a vengeance. This was predictable, and unless we get our arms around it, the next decades are going to be, unfortunately, fraught with a lot of pain and suffering.
SPEAKER 09 :
You probably know this answer, Steve. You might as well. I'm going to throw it out there anyways just to see I just looked it up, and granted, this is the average. So some consume more, some consume less. This is the average. Do you know how many pounds of sugar on average an American consumes each year?
SPEAKER 03 :
A hundred? I'm guessing. I don't know the answer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Ding, ding, ding. You are the winner, Steve.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, think about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Think about that. Yeah, thank you. Think about that. I mean, Dr. Kelly, when you put it in that perspective and you say the average American is eating, consuming 100 pounds of sugar a year, most of them wouldn't believe that's the case. But to your point earlier, when you look at what's in a soft drink even and how much sugar is in it, yeah, it doesn't take much to get to that 100 pounds. And by the way, like I said, that's the average. There are some out there probably consuming half of that and others consuming twice that much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. If you look at the amount of sugar, for example, the number of people I know who say, oh, I don't eat breakfast. I just stop and get a coffee. And what they mean when they get stopping at a coffee is they go to Starbucks and get some coffee beverage, which has the amount of sugar that's in three cans of Coca-Cola. So the amount of sugar that is added to some of these things is ridiculous, and portion sizes have gotten out of control. In the 1950s, a normal size of a soft drink was 8 ounces. Then it went to 12 ounces. Then it went to 16 ounces. Now when you go and get a regular soft drink, at McDonald's, it's a 24-ounce drink, okay? It is three times what it was in the 1950s. Yet people think, oh, you know, all I had was a Coke. Well, no, you actually had three Cokes, and it's that amount of sugar. And so I think that certainly what we are consuming is adding to the issue with cancers, but it is all eclipsed, unfortunately, by the tragedy that was the mRNA shots for COVID.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, again, we were sending that video around. Actually, Tucker Carlson has done some interviews and some videos on this of late, which not to toot our own horn, but it's funny. We've got now Tucker Carlson running around talking about and interviewing some of the same things that, Steve, you, I, and Dr. Kelly have literally been talking about for four-plus years. Now it's almost like, I love you, Tucker, but no offense, you're a little behind the times here.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I read that article, Eric. I was listening to what he was talking about, and I came up with a conclusion that I'll ask you guys whether you agree or not, too. But when I think about Kelly Victory, Simone Gold, Peter McCullough, Marty, all these guys... including Ron Johnson, who's not a doctor but a senator, I think the difference between the group of people, John, that you and I got exposed to through Kelly, and I had some direct exposure to as well, is they never overreacted. They didn't, like, look at it and go, oh, my God, the world is going insane and it's crazy and all this other stuff regarding the virus itself. They looked at it like a scientist and said, we got a problem. what's the problem really all about what are the concerns it is a virus it is a coronavirus yada yada and they started thinking they never stopped thinking to be honest with you i think the people who came up with solutions and we will come up with solutions going forward and the people like that and kelly and her team were great at it i heard it you know on weekly calls with a bunch of people across the country she invited me to and that was it they never panicked they kept thinking they kept being scientists and doctors and that's why we had the advantage
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. I agree. All right. This was a question, more of a thought that came in that, by the way, I don't know that I can argue with this. And I'll talk to Dr. Kelly. I'll ask you first. And Steve, you can chime in. I foresee groups of specialists that work for insurance companies forming an alliance to make all advice, medically speaking. Then something like a PA will staff the facilities and nurses to administer that advice. There will be no more primary care physicians unless you go the concierge route, but then you have to wonder if the hospital will allow your concierge to get you admitted to actually then go see a specialist. Dr. Kelly, your thoughts? That was from a listener, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I certainly hope that's not the way it's going, but I don't think it's far off. There's no question that we are on a slippery slope when they started allowing PAs and nurse practitioners to to be fundamentally stand-ins for physicians. The level of training is vastly different. The level of experience is vastly different. There's a role for PAs and surgical assistants and nurse practitioners, absolutely, but they should not be replacing somebody who went to 12 years of You know, education and had a lot more has a lot more experience. It all comes down to dollars and cents and what the insurance companies and what hospitals want to pay for. Unfortunately, people have been lulled to believe that these algorithms and let's face it, that's what AI is. It's all algorithmic. that is a substitute for the thinking human brain. And it's going to dumb down, if you will, the quality of medicine that everybody gets. And those people who are able to afford it will go the concierge route and the rest of the people will get sort of what happens when you go the socialized route, which is everybody gets a mediocre level of care and nobody gets really great care.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, your thoughts on all of that? Again, you're on the admin side, so you of all people will see some of this stuff sooner probably than later when it comes to that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, statistically, country by country across the world who are delivering longer lifespans at a lower cost per capita all of them pay their primary care providers around 15% of the healthcare dollar that they spend. We spend about 5% or 6% on primary care. When primary care and internal medicine physicians See patients first, develop a relationship with them. They reduce emergency room visits by somewhere between 70% and 80% typically. We are going in the opposite direction. We are trying to minimize primary care when it is the one thing where the statistics never vary. If you have strong primary care, if you pay them well, if they get a chance to develop relationships, you get more doctors going into that business, and you get a better outcome, longer life at a lower cost.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dr. Kelly, when it comes to HHS and a lot of the things that are getting revamped, as you said earlier, a question that I have, given the fact that I just threw out that number of 100 pounds of sugar a year is what the average American actually consumes. Do you see Robert Kennedy Jr. and his staff focusing on some of these things that even we've talked about today? In other words, educating people that, hey, do you all know you're taking in 100 pounds of sugar a year?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And I think that rather than, quote, banning things, you know, the idea I am not a proponent of, you know, banning, you know, Scorpies or Binkles. I think, you know, people should be able to make their own choices. But what you can do is use the power of the purse to incentivize companies to do the right thing, to come up with products that have less sugar, for example, that don't include artificial dyes and artificial colorings, artificial preservatives. And you can certainly use the power of the purse to ban or keep those things out of the schools because you say, here's the deal. We're not going to give you the contract for the school lunch program if your foods include these things or that they have more than X number of grams. added sugar per serving kind of thing so I yes I think that you can motivate people people are largely motivated by things like fear and they are motivated by money they're motivated by it is you know watch people's behavior They do not want to do anything that's difficult. That's why so many people flock to stuff like Ozempic. They want a pill or an injection or a quick fix rather than the thing that's harder to do. So I think this new administration will hopefully use the power of the purse to incentivize companies to create healthier products. They will return physical education, hopefully, to the school curriculum. The idea that kids in elementary school no longer have to spend you know, 45 minutes or whatever, five days a week doing something physically active. That's a tragedy that it's during those formative years that kids learn to appreciate daily exercise, which is a core component of good health. It cannot be done with diet alone. And we've got to get back to some of those basics. And those things, by the way, are largely free. They don't cost Americans a lot of money.
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Great point. Steve, your thoughts on all of that and what we might see? Again, lots of changes. I've heard Dr. Kelly and some of you talk about some of those changes that hopefully we'll see coming out of HHS. But I, for one, I hope that, A, we get some of these pharmaceutical ads off of the air and, by the way, replace them with some of this educational stuff that we're talking about right now.
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Yeah, I have two or three things that I tend to follow fairly closely, John. One is you cannot ask a person to replace a habit. with a dramatic change. So if you eat M&Ms every day at 10 a.m. in the morning as a snack, you know, and a nutritionist says, I want you eating broccoli, it's too dramatic of a change. So it has to be, you know, a process you go through. The second thing is take out all the toxins, right? I mean, I think Kelly's right about that. I mean, if you get all the toxins out and I'm still eating food that isn't necessarily great for me, at least I'm not getting bad food and toxins to go with it. And the third thing is There are a couple of simple metrics, you know, 10,000 steps today, actually 8,000 steps. You know, you shorten all-cause mortality by like 40%. If you can sit on the floor and get up off the floor without using your hands, that level of flexibility, you live 60%, you know, all-cause mortality goes away. I mean, there's lots of things like that. Just give us the simple stuff and don't expect a miracle. And I think people will be incentivized, but make food toxin-free and not quite as bad for us, and we'll see it happen.
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A few minutes left here, Dr. Kelly. I'll give you the floor on this one because with all of what's happening right now with Robert Kennedy Jr., the left, of course, has already been unhinged. I can already feel their unhingeness in the additional cuts that are now going to happen out of that. And I can already hear the people out there, oh, there's just no way we can handle things. Nobody will be healthy again. There's no way we can run things with that less staff and on and on and on. I mean, I guess my question is, how do they fight against all of this left nonsense that keeps coming out?
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They fight with results. It's going to be results. They're going to have to show. I have no question they can do it. The amount, the bloated, you know, administration that's happening in these agencies has been going on for decades. I think cutting it out and then proving results that they start to deliver on some of these things. If we start to see true, you know, reductions, even a fraction of a point of reduction in the rates of obesity, for example, among school children. You know, the fact that We've got 40% of adolescents are pre-diabetic in the United States. Wow. Forty. Four out of ten. We can't sustain that. So if they could make some changes in over a two- or three-year period, say it's not 40% anymore, it's 30% or 35%. Certainly horrific numbers still, but it's going to be results-driven, John. They're going to have to prove that with fewer people they can spend less money and do more. And I think it's possible. I think this is exactly, Robert Kennedy Jr., if anybody's the one to do it, and along with the cuts that Elon Musk is making, I think they can show better results for less money.
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Steve, you've been in the corporate world for a long time. I've run small businesses my entire adult life. The reality is I for one know that in a lot of cases, despite what people might think, you can actually get more with less because you become more efficient. Your thoughts on that?
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What do you mean get more with less in that context, John?
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Less people getting more work done because in some cases, more people just adds to the convolution of what's going on. And in a lot of cases in business, you can get more productivity and more done with less people.
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Well, you can. I mean, I think there's a tipping point on everything, right? Of course. I mean, you know, like if you walk into a car rental place these days and they got one person working and 27 people in line, you know, more people doesn't make it worse. They make it better because they can do that. Right. Right. I mean, the problem is with. systems that are inefficient.
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Well, but really quick, I'm going to go back to your example really quick before we move on. On the same token, if there's six checkout lanes there, and all of a sudden there's 24 people there that are all trying to do the same thing, that's an example of too many people make it worse.
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Yeah, in fact, I'll give you a clinical example. We just did a study at a hospital in New England. Eight cardiologists come in on the same day. There are five exam rooms. They are far worse off getting patients through the process that day than the day that they have four cardiologists in five exam rooms. So, yeah, there's that type of scenario. The problem with the government is that there's just not enough money when you have these kind of deficits to do the training, the implementation, all the things we really need to do to make this government run efficiently, and medicine as well. Medicine is horribly inefficient in so many ways. There are too many people, but there are too many people because we haven't changed the culture or the processes to fix it.
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I'll leave it at that. We can continue this on next week. Dr. Kelly, victory as always. Thank you for your time. It always flies by.
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Thanks for having me. Look forward to it next week.
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I appreciate it. Steve, you as well. Appreciate you, man. Hope you feel better. I do too, John, and it's good to be with you every week. All right, man. Appreciate you very much. Veteran Windows and Doors up next. 35% off if you buy up to three windows. If you do four windows or more, it's 40% off free labor on both of those deals. Go to klzradio.com.
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Welcome to Water Talk with Paul the Waterman brought to you by Water Pros. Paul the Waterman is Colorado's expert on all things related to the water we use and drink in our homes. Have you ever thought about where your water actually comes from? Is it safe to drink? Is it harmful to my health, my skin, or my hair? Paul the Waterman knows water and he has the answers. So get ready to talk to the Waterman yourself right now. Call in with your questions to talk with your host, Paul the Waterman.
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Happy Thursday, everybody. I'm Paul the Waterman, a.k.a. Paul Dowding. How are you doing? Hey, we're going to have a great show today, and if you have questions on the material that we share with you, give us a call. We'd love to talk to you about it. You can reach us here in the studio at 303-477-5600. That's 303-477-5600. So we've been doing some research on the PFAs of forever chemicals in the water. We found... Some really good information that we're going to share with you the next couple of weeks. The PFAS contamination is global, but I didn't realize how bad and how long the PFAS contamination has been happening. It's dangerous. Do I think our water quality is safe? I absolutely do not, and I think you'll share that feeling with me after the information that we share with you, especially today. So last week we talked about DuPont and what happened with them and the PFAS contamination. Today it's 3M's turn. And so this information that you're hearing is a video that can be found on YouTube. And so I encourage you to do your research because you'll see and find the same things that we're going to be sharing with you. And it's clearly our responsibility to look at the quality of the water that we have. And I think we also have to make our elected officials pay more attention to what I think is an epidemic of poor water quality, and it's global. So, okay, look, let's start it out.
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Here we are in the Faroes, a remote community off of the North Atlantic. We have been living off fishing for hundreds of years. We have no production of chemicals, but we are exposed to a lot of chemicals. They came to us without our asking us. We have seen negative effects on the health of our children. We want to see their development because we have always been a bit suspicious if these substances can have any impact on the endocrine system. This is a price to pay for what the international society have done without thinking about the consequences of just releasing new substances.
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What we have seen here in the Faroes is that this is part of an absolutely global contamination that may have started in the 1960s without us being aware of it.
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So PFAS is everywhere.
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PFAS have contaminated our food supply, and PFAS can also accumulate in soils, in sediments.
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There are chemists who have sampled rainwater on the Antarctica and in the Himalayas. What did they find in the rainwater? PFAS. It's all over.
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They don't just stay in the environment, in our water, in our soil, but they get into living things and they stay in us. It's like a ticking time bomb in the body as this stuff is building up and coating all of our organs and staying there year after year.
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We have analyzed thousands and thousands of human blood samples. We never met one that did not contain PFAS.
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We have all paid a high price due to large corporations carelessly dumping known toxic chemicals. Through no fault of my own, I was exposed to these toxic chemicals. And as a result, I will die with this cancer.
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We've all been used as guinea pigs for the last 70 to 80 years. We weren't told we were being exposed, even though the companies knew that these things, if we put them into these products, they will get into people. They will get into people's blood. But they did it anyway.
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It's hard to even talk to people about these chemicals and tell them, look, there's a chemical that's in you that's not found anywhere in nature. These chemicals are found in 99% of people. It just sounds crazy. Tell people that these are also forever chemicals, that we've created a chemical that we don't know how to destroy. It sounds even stranger.
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So PFAS are synthetic man-made chemicals. PFAS stands for per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances. It's quite a mouthful. It's an acronym that stands for a family of thousands of different chemicals. The most recent estimate from the EPA says that there are over 14,000 different chemical structures that they recognize to be PFAS. They share the same chemical property of having many carbon-fluorine bonds. These carbon-fluorine bonds are some of the strongest bonds in organic chemistry. So for this reason, PFAS have also been called forever chemicals because those carbon-fluorine bonds just really don't break down.
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But the part where this story gets really strange is looking at their origins, because these chemicals came from the Manhattan Project, which was a secret project to build the atomic bomb in World War II. So after the war, companies began experimenting with these chemicals. One company had a scientist who accidentally splashed some of it on their canvas shoes. They discovered the chemicals had stain-proof and waterproof properties. That company was 3M.
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Because of their unique chemical properties, they're added to products to make them non-stick, grease-proof, stain-proof, and water-resistant.
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You know who's going to win this contest. Teflon is so much easier to clean than stainless steel or uncoated aluminum.
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These chemicals went into some of these companies' most famous products, like 3M's Scotchgard and DuPont's Teflon. These chemicals were really at the dawn of what we think of as the era of better living through chemistry. And they sort of epitomized this attitude of consumers and companies that everything we do could become more convenient.
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...on virtually any fabric. Use Scotchgum, a fabric protector, and let your cock run its over.
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Consumers are still really enjoying the fruits of this era. When you look around you, there are so many things that are stain-proof or waterproof, like pizza boxes that are grease-resistant or microwave popcorn bags. They're in industrial applications like plastics, semiconductors. They may even be used in solar panels and wind turbines. They're in a lot of products that it's not even clear why they're there, like toilet paper or dental floss. But as time has gone on and more scientific research into them has progressed, we've realized that they also have a downside. We're east of Minneapolis in Minnesota near 3M's global headquarters. So back in 2018, I started looking at 3M's history with PFAS chemicals. I wrote a story at that time. A lot has changed since then, and I'm back to see what's happened. In 3M's hometown in Cottage Grove, Minnesota, and in the surrounding areas of Oakdale and Lake Elmo, the company had been dumping these chemicals since the 1960s. And clearly these chemicals got out into the environment. They were seeping underground, getting into aquifers, getting into soil. And that's really the beginning of this gigantic plume that was later documented around the 3M site in Cottage Grove. The pollution has caused concern among the people who live in the area. There are troubling statistics about childhood cancer, which is thought to be more connected to environmental contaminants.
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Hi. Hi, how's it going? How are those burgers? Great. I'm a wonderful barbecuer, obviously. Do you have a plate to put them on? That probably would have been something I should have grabbed as well.
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Oh my gosh, mother.
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Back in 2018, I interviewed a number of local residents, including Amy and her daughter, Lexi. I was so happy to get back in touch with you and find out that Lexi has made a full recovery. So how many years did that take?
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Being done with treatment and stuff, to be fully considered cancer-free, it took five years after I was treated for it.
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So when did you first start suspecting that it could be an environmental issue? I drank city water growing up, so city of Oakdale water. And then when I was pregnant with Lexi, her dad and I moved into an apartment in Oakdale and lived there until she was about two or three. And all of her baby bottles were made with the water. We didn't buy the filtered water then. I don't think it was as common as it is now. I don't really remember people as having bottles of water. It was more of a luxury. People didn't want to spend money on that.
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I mean, do you ever think back about, like, eating fish from the lake or anything else that might have put her at higher risk?
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I've been eating fish since, like, the day I was, like, one years old. Like, since the day I could chew, my grandpa has been having me eat fish.
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From the lakes around here? Yeah. So my dad, her grandpa, he's a professional fishing guide. Oh, wow. So he loves the fish, and he loves to go fishing, and...
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Okay, so I want to interrupt real quick. Minnesota is the birthplace of the Mississippi River. Also, the river that went through my hometown, the Rock River in Illinois. And so these contaminants are global contamination. And I think it's something that it's been in all our drinking water and all our food. And one of the things that bothered me personally is when I was listening to that EPA webinar last year, not one time did they talk about the severity. And nor did they mention 114,000 chemicals, it's probably grown, that make up the Pease Foss family. So the good news is that we can remove this from the drinking water with a point of use reverse osmosis drinking water system. We can also remove this with a whole house anion resin based system. And I definitely recommend that both those are supported with a whole house water softener. Because hard water can absolutely wreak havoc on water filtration. Another known method to remove PFAS is activated carbon. But activated carbon doesn't last forever. It breaks down. And quite frankly, activated carbon absorbs a whole bunch of other organics. So, you know, with this PFAS contamination, my professional and personal opinion is that we look at the more reliable and long-term reduction methods with a point of use reverse osmosis or the whole house and on resin based system. And that's something that can absolutely remove the PFAS. Something else to listen to is that since World War II, basically till today, PFAS are still an active part of our environment. And there's countries, other countries that have not taken steps to, you know, cut back on the PFAS. And PFAS, you'll find, can also be spread globally through, you know, the rainwater. So, okay, look, let's pick it back up.
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Oh, wow. So he loves the fish, and he loves to go fishing and come home and make big fish fries. And, yeah, they live right over by here. It's about a six-minute drive from here. So all the lakes that he would go to would be Lake Montreville, Lake Jane, all the ones in Lake Elmo. My dad's a lot more particular now if he's going to actually keep them.
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Not everyone was as fortunate as Lexi. Death records show a child who died in Oakdale from 2003 to 2015 was 171% more likely to have had cancer compared to those who lived outside the contaminated area. So in that area, one of the schools was Tartan High School, and there was a math teacher there who told me the numbers just weren't adding up. There were so many students who seemed to have rare cancers, so many teachers who had family members with cancer, and one of the most outspoken students about this was Amara Strandy.
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I'm 20 years old, and at the age of 15, I was diagnosed with stage four fibrolamellar hepatocellular carcinoma. I've had over 20 surgeries, including two liver resections and one open chest surgery. There are no more treatments to try, no roadmap, and no plan.
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So is this her bedroom or just her hangout?
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No, this is her bedroom. This was her bedroom. The reason why there's no bed in here is because it was a hospital bed and we had to give that back to the hospice.
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It was from hospice.
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Amara was diagnosed with cancer at age 15 and she died just two days before her 21st birthday in April of 2023.
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What she's most proud of is her music studio.
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Wow, how many different instruments does she have in here? I see a violin. There's your ukulele, her mandolin.
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There might be a harmonica or kazoo somewhere in there.
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Her first love was music. She was a composer. She had written songs. Her dream of a career was to write music, compose music for either computer games or maybe even film scores.
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And she could keep composing even while she was sick?
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She was composing up until just a few days before she died.
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Yeah.
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But she couldn't sing anymore.
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They removed this large mass that had grown into the fibers of her liver, of the fiber lamellar variety of liver cancer. Fibrolamellar hepatocellular carcinoma is a cancer that is found in one in five million people. It's very rare.
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Did any doctors along the way say they thought there might be an environmental cause for the cancer or suggest any lifestyle changes?
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That was not their concern. Their concern was to deal with the cancer as they understood it. It wasn't until much later, and Amara started inquiring, about How possibly could this happen to her?
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And did she first start asking those questions at all because she was a student at Tartan and there have been so many other cancers there?
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Absolutely. I mean, she was aware of the community concern about PFOFs. It was something that the kids talked about at school and even joked about, you know, as much as you can joke about, you know, don't drink the water here.
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Don't drink the cancer water as they talked about it.
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She knew kids whose parents had cancer. And then she knew kids whose siblings had cancer. She wanted to know, why doesn't anyone know about this? And why aren't people asking questions?
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So that's a great point. Why aren't people asking questions? When we got the communities received letters last year regarding they were mandated by the EPA and those letters saying that the water quality didn't meet standards for PFAS, forever chemicals, why didn't they have more information in those letters? Why wasn't there facts regarding the potential health hazards of drinking water with PFAS contamination? That's something that, you know, really boggles my mind. This information that, you know, you guys can find it. It's on YouTube. I encourage you to get it. Why is the federal government not doing more? And why haven't we put together the world's top scientists? I'm very serious about this to try to, you know, eradicate this PFAS problem. I mean, this is extremely serious. It's a global, you know, contamination. So it's not only in our water supply. It's, you know, in the grass. It's in the trees. It's in the vegetables. It's in the fruit. It's in the animals. So it's all part of the cycle of life. Now, I'm not trying to, you know, scare people, but I want to bring it to our attention. And I've said this all along. We have to take our own responsibility to treat the quality of our water. And PFAS is just one thing. problem in a pool of other contaminants within our water supply pharmaceuticals absolutely pharmaceuticals is another concern that we're going to have to deal with and we'll bring that to your attention as well but PFAS how many cancers in the last let's say you know 10 years have people have succumbed to that were created because of the water that they drink And it stays in our body. It accumulates in our body. And, you know, other research we found that, you know, pregnant women, you know how pregnant women get rid of PFAS contamination? By breastfeeding. Now, that's scary, isn't it? When a pregnant woman breastfeeds, the PFAS leave her body and go to the newborn baby. That's a fact. Okay, Luke, let's go.
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Even though Amara and Lexi's mother, Amy, believe that these cancers are linked to PFAS chemicals, it's something that's very hard to prove. It takes years of research, both on a population level and in particular when you look at one individual. But fears about the water intensified by what would come out in the 2010s. Minnesota sued 3M for damaging the state's natural resources with its dumping of PFAS. And in doing so, a mass of the company's internal documents were released. What they revealed has been described as a scientific cover-up.
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seeing the documents that in 1975 3m was told we think we're finding your chemicals these these perfluorinated materials in the blood of the general u.s population and to see what was going on internally you know 3m started testing its own workers and found yes this chemical is building up in the workers who were exposed to this chemical
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They were seeing studies of these chemicals on animals with disturbing effects.
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It shows that in 1997, 3M gave DuPont a material safety data sheet with a label that said cancer warning contains a chemical which can cause cancer. But 3M removed that label the same year and for decades sold PFAS without warning the public of its dangers.
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You see the companies internally debating, do we say anything? Do we tell the government? And unfortunately, what they decided was no.
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Some of 3M's documents even showed that there had been a sort of whistleblower inside the company named Richard Purdy who had said the company wasn't telling its customers about the risks of these chemicals, and he resigned. He referred to 3M's PFOS, or P-F-O-S, as the most insidious pollutant since PCBs.
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Some of the most notorious PFAS are PFOS and PFOA. So these are two PFAS molecules that have a carbon backbone with eight carbon atoms. These are the chemicals that so far have raised the greatest concern. These are the ones that show up most frequently in the environment. These are also the ones that show up most frequently in people's bodies. they have half-lives in blood of years, which means that it would take years to decades for the levels in your blood to go down to an unmeasurable level.
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the 3M company had actually had one of its own scientists sit down and calculate what would be a safe level in human blood. And that scientist had calculated, and even used the word safe on the headline of the document, that the safe level for this chemical in human blood would be no more than 1.05 parts per billion. At the time, in the late 1990s, the average level of that chemical being found in the general U.S. population's blood was 30 times higher than that.
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Okay, so that's really important because during last year's EPA webinar, they were talking about four part per billion. A target of four part per billion, yet they knew... that four part per billion was still too high. Now, at today's time, they publish reports where they believe that, you know, the recommended contamination level for PFAS is zero. So it's up to our municipality, our government, how are they going to address this problem? And we talked about how to remove PFAS from your home. Imagine the size of system that you would have to use to handle a community water filtration system, especially when you have six, eight-inch water mains feeding a community. So water filtration is not plug and play. And one of the things regarding water filtration is hard water will absolutely affect water. For example, I mentioned anion filtration media. Anion media or anion resin is super sensitive and it will not function under hard water. The hard water will destroy the anion resin media. If you have any questions, if you want to comment about this topic, give me a call here at 303-477-5600. That's 303-477-5600. So this is why I mentioned before, maybe we should get tax breaks for people that do their own filtration. But then the filter medias that we use eventually... You're going to have to consider those hot or contaminated. And then we're going to have to have a process of properly disposing water filters that's going to be full of the PFAS. Another thing to consider, and we'll get right back to our story here, but another thing to consider is the wastewater treatment issue that we have. And the human waste that's removed, if that's contaminated with PFAS, what are we going to do with the human waste? We used to sell the human waste as fertilizer to farms. But then we talked about stories, I believe in Texas and Wisconsin, where farms were contaminated, overly contaminated, because of the PFAS and the human waste that was used for fertilizer. This is a big problem that we're going to have to really, you know, have some sincere thought process and what to do. Now, we can do it ourselves. We can definitely treat it ourselves. Again, with the point of use reverse osmosis system. And we can absolutely, you know, set up a whole house anion resin based system again. But if you have hard water, we definitely it all starts with a water softener. And that's something that we can help you out with with water pros. I encourage everybody. to you know dive into this and do your own research you can see for yourself but to me this is not only a global concern but this is worse than a pandemic i mean we have a if you don't have healthy water we don't have a healthy life okay luke in 2018 3m settled but there was no admission that it had done anything wrong that there had been a scientific cover-up or what the real risk of these chemicals was
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3M will pay $850 million to settle claims that contaminated water in Minnesota for decades.
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It's hard to talk about in our community because, like, everyone loves 3M, right? There's not a person I know personally from 3M who isn't a stellar individual. I feel torn inside myself, but I am really angry at whoever at whatever level did what they did, especially after they knew the chemicals were dangerous and they kept doing it.
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So no one even knew what these chemicals were until this lawyer from Ohio came along. His name is Rob Bellot, and he took on the case of a farmer who had these cows downstream of a DuPont factory that were dying.
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It's unbelievable. That calf had died miserable.
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And so Rob Balot's story is now told in the film Dark Waters, where he's played by Mark Ruffalo.
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DuPont is knowingly poisoning 70,000 local residents for the last 40 years. That's not what I was trained to do. That wasn't the kind of thing I was normally doing at the time. I was actually working with chemical companies and big corporate clients, helping them navigate all the federal, state, international laws, rules, regulations, governing, things going out into the environment. It was actually through that case that we took on back in 1998 that we first found out that these man-made chemicals we now call PFAS, forever chemicals, even existed. What we're seeing is not only are we finding all these potential human health impacts, but we're seeing them happening at lower and lower dose levels and exposure levels. We recently had the Federal Environmental Protection Agency come out and essentially say, if you can detect this, it's of health concern.
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The safety advisories keep getting lower and lower. From 70 parts per trillion for both PFOA and PFOS in drinking water in 2016, the EPA lowered it to just four parts per trillion each. That's less than a single drop in an Olympic-sized swimming pool. Each time those levels are lowered, it means that more people live in an area where contaminated water is thought to be a concern. A recent study found that as many as 200 million people are drinking water with more than the acceptable levels of PFAS. That's around two-thirds of Americans. states are taking action and one of those states is minnesota they're not taking any chances with the pfas that are in drinking water and to do that they're trying out new types of water filters pfas is out in the environment and it will spread as far as the water can spread it it's left the barn it's out of the gate
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This waterway is carrying the PFAS right where the air meets the water. And these little bubbles are sort of signs that there might be PFAS in that water. PFAS has a hydrophobic and a hydrophilic nature to it. So if you think about it as like a caterpillar, the head of the caterpillar is hydrophilic. It wants to be in the water. And the tail of it wants to be out of the water. It's hydrophobic. So it kind of surfs along. And so it actually has that property that behaves the same way out in the environment on its own, or whether you're putting it in the water or on a pan, it's going to behave the same way. So mother nature is saying, here's your PFAS, it's in the foam. And so we want to take advantage of that and do the most removal we can.
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It's called the SAF, it's surface activated foam fractionation. We fill those full of contaminated water, and then we are able to physically remove the PFAS by foaming it, adding air into the system. And then we pull the PFAS off of that foam again, and that's where we get a small volume of very high concentrated PFAS containing liquid.
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Thus far, the test has shown us that we can remove roughly 92 to 98% of PFOA and PFAS. It could run at least at 60,000 gallons of water treatment per day. And this is just one small system. So this is effectively the test to see whether we can scale this up to very large volumes. And can we apply this in a permanent location to reduce the PFAS in the environment altogether?
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It's not just 3M or DuPont who are responsible for PFAS pollution. There's about a dozen companies that have produced PFAS around the world. Highly concentrated levels have been found in Europe, Japan and Australia. It's become a multi-billion dollar problem globally. Like the US, a lot of these sites are places where the chemicals are manufactured or sites where other companies use them. One of the most widespread sources are military bases and airports, where firefighting foams containing 3M's PFOS were sprayed right into the ground.
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We're just going right through here.
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So you're here to have your blood drawn? Yes. All right. So come on with me here.
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I've come to Mount Sinai Hospital in New York to have my blood taken and tested for a variety of PFAS. We'll give you a little warning there. All used in different products and made all over the world. So we know these chemicals are everywhere and they're in everyone. The question is obviously, you know, what level of them is unsafe? It's something that science is still trying to figure out. Personally, I've wondered if I could avoid these chemicals as well. PFAS, like a lot of other chemicals, can bioaccumulate, which means it sort of moves up the food chain and becomes more concentrated in predators and apex predators. And one of the places where a lot of the cutting-edge research is being done is surprisingly the Faroe Islands. This small archipelago in the North Atlantic has a population of just over 50,000 people. There is no manufacturing of chemicals here. There's this quirk of local culture that people have eaten whale meat for generations and whale meat can have very highly concentrated levels of chemicals in it.
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Pilot whales as a kind of a gift from nature because over centuries we have harvested them in hundreds and around thousand per year. They were seen as really a gift from almost from heaven. I went out to the public saying that pregnant women, especially a woman who intended to become pregnant, they should really be careful eating pilot whale meat.
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Dr. Paul Waihi and his team found mercury was getting into the local population from whale meat and other seafood. The scientists have studied the Faroese since the 1980s. Every so often, a new cohort of hundreds of children under one year old are added to the research. Their physical and mental development is examined all the way into adult life. They're tested for things such as balance, reaction time, body composition, lung and heart function, even the antibodies in their blood. As the Faroese reduced their consumption of pilot whale, the scientists saw the levels of mercury in their blood lower over time. But unlike mercury, PFAS chemicals are in everything. In the Faroe Islands, people have stain-proof couches and waterproof jackets just like the rest of us. Even in people who had very low levels of the chemicals, the scientists started spotting things that really concerned them.
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What we saw surprised us very much. And we saw that the negative effect on the antibody formation was much higher in children exposed to PFAS than to PCP and other substances.
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people in the Faroe Islands, far away from pollution, and they were exposed to these compounds at something we thought was very low concentrations. And still, we found that every time that a child had a double concentration of PFAS in the blood, the child would lose half of the antibody. Essentially, the vaccines did not work. It means that there is a fault, a weakness in your immune system. It's not functioning optimally. We can see that those kids who have higher exposures have a weaker skeleton, and there's a tendency of, at young ages, to develop what we call prediabetes.
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So as these studies evolve and we learn more about the links between high PFAS levels and health problems, how close are we to understanding how much is too much?
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The World Health Organization experts on cancer believe that if you don't have an optimally functioning immune system, you may be more vulnerable to cancer. So we can see the various diseases that are sort of triggered, if not facilitated. I would call this is a multi-organ toxicant, PFAS. It affects multiple targets. And it may be that different PFAS's that each take their pick of their favorite toxicity. We're trying to decipher that.
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One of the most disturbing things that persists as a scientific problem with PFAS is that there's no known way to get them out of our bodies. There's only one way that's known of, and unfortunately, that's through mothers giving birth. They're offloading their PFAS to their children, both at the time of birth and through breastfeeding. And this just has huge implications for not just our generation but the generations to come that we're passing these PFAS on to our children.
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So I want to point something out. Types of cancer becoming more common in young people. Men and women in the prime of their lives are increasingly becoming diagnosed with serious cancers including colorectal, breast cancer, prostate cancer, uterine, stomach, gastric cancer, pancreatic cancer. The forecast is predicting that cancer for the young people will increase globally by 30% from 2019 to 2030. Is it because of the water that we drink?
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Elsa Helmsdale is both a scientist who studies PFAS, a person who has been through the cohorts, and a mother who's had to deal with PFAS on a very personal level.
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I thought a lot about it and I decided to only breastfeed for six months, even though the recommendation is that you breastfeed for a year.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. Did it feel strange to think about being sort of pre-polluted or sharing your pollution with your child?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, it did. And also because I didn't know my own levels and you actually give... a lot of the contaminants, in this case the PFAS, to children, so their levels go really high and your levels drop as a consequence of breastfeeding. I didn't think about it that much when I was testing myself, but I do think about it a lot when it comes to my kids.
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We're starting to understand that early life exposures can change the configuration of our chromosomes. And so the question is, is it something that can affect future generations if we pollute or expose the currently pregnant women? And this has been shown in rodent studies that it can happen. The pesticide is completely gone, but the changed DNA chemistry is not.
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PFAS aren't just a problem for humans. The chemicals have been detected in animals for decades, from polar bears in the Arctic to dolphins in India. In the Faroe Islands, they're also studying the impact on wildlife. Ornithologist Schroeder-Hammer is looking at their effects, both on seabirds and to ecosystems as a whole.
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We're fairly confident that the PFAS that we're finding in seabirds for the most part comes from their diet. There's important research done quite recently on how pollutants have a negative impact on top predators in particular, where you see high concentrations and that has a knock-on effect on their, it could be parasite load, but it could also be their likelihood to catch infections or to survive a pandemic like avian influenza.
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So if we were to lose an apex predator like the great skua, what are the consequences ecologically?
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Ecologically, top predators are so very important in stabilizing the ecosystem. They have a kind of controlling top-down effect on the ecosystem.
SPEAKER 15 :
Are there other consequences ecologically to these birds in particular having PFAS or other chemicals?
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We very often look for sublethal effects. They may have more subtle effects on their reproduction, for example. And also in relation to PFAS, there are indications that the mothers pass it on to their eggs. So there's what we call maternal transfer as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Just as with humans.
SPEAKER 30 :
Yes.
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We have documented some of the negative consequences and we send the message back to you. Please learn the lesson. It can be irresponsible just to invent some new substances and produce them and send them out without any control.
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As more has been learned about the health hazards of these chemicals, regulation of PFAS has really picked up. It's forcing a reckoning for the chemical companies. They're seeing settlements from lawsuits that are amounting to tens of billions of dollars. While claims that PFAS chemicals cause cancer have been litigated elsewhere, there's never been a major trial in Minnesota. Skeptics say the state's drinking water contains other contaminants, but many people living in areas with high levels of PFAS still question 3M's role. Even since the 2018 settlement, Minnesota is still working out how to deal with PFAS.
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The PFAS legislation that we have, this year we named it the Amara Law. It will ban non-essential use. It will require labeling of any product that has PFAS in it.
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these manufacturers were coming forward wanting to be considered essential. So that's how we found out there were all these products that had PFAS in them because they wanted to be on the essential list.
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We didn't know how extensive PFAS chemicals were in different products. We kept learning more and more every day of the thousands of products that contained these chemicals.
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And at the same time, how would any of us know? It's not listed on ingredients. It's not listed on what is used to make this particular shampoo or this particular dental floss.
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We need stricter regulations on the use of PFA's chemicals and more research to be done on the long-term effects of exposure. We also need more education for the public about the dangers of these chemicals so that people can make informed choices about the products they use.
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Her voice in the legislature was a voice for the community. They saw her as she was getting weaker. I saw her as getting clearer, in many ways stronger than she'd ever been.
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She was a champion for us this year, bringing awareness to this issue. Unfortunately, she passed away, I think it was three days before we had the bill on the floor for the first time.
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All Amara was asking for in the testifying at the Capitol was for companies who are using these chemicals do the right thing and take responsibility for their use.
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Her life doesn't seem over to me because she put so much in motion and those things are still in motion. And so there's no over for me yet.
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So as of April 2024, the EPA finalized drinking water standards for some PFAS which set legally enforceable maximum contamination levels for PFAS and drinking water. And so we're at PFOAs are four part per trillion, PFOS at four part per trillion, PFHXS at 10 part per trillion. Now remember what a part per trillion is different from a part per billion, isn't it? So that's even a smaller amount. So you go from a part per billion to part per trillion. I just wanted to point that out. And so because they said a part per billion, if you take an Olympic-sized swimming pool, it's just one drop. So they went from a part per billion to a part per trillion. A mixture containing two or more of the PFAS contaminants is a hazardous index, and based on combined levels of these chemicals, that also can affect the standards. The maximum contamination levels are different, and those... based on drinking water standards and levels which have to be reliably measured, the public water system must start monitoring for the PFAS by 2027. So we have at least two more years before they have to start monitoring for this contaminant. The system must also provide the public with information on the levels of the PFAS and the drinking water starting in 2027 as well. So again, you heard that the recommendation was part per billion, and now the EPA eventually finalized their drinking water standards, and it's even smaller. They want it at a part per trillion. If monitoring shows that our drinking water levels exceed the maximum contamination levels, a public water system must take measures to reduce the PFAS by 2029. So that means we have four years to come up with a game plan and how this is going to happen. Starting in 2029, public water systems that have PFAS levels exceeding one or more of these maximum contamination levels must take action to reduce levels of the PFAS in their drink of water, and must notify the public of the excess levels. So I wonder when that's going to start happening. They have basically four years to ramp up a program. I haven't heard anybody in our state government talking about this or even local government talking about this. It states that many states have their own regulations regarding PFAS, most commonly the PFOAs. And the PFOS in drinking water, some of these are enforceable drinking water standards, while others are just guideline levels or they just require public water systems to regularly test for certain PFAS and notify the consumer. So, you know, Colorado has a problem at the state lab level. And another scientist or lab tech was found to fudge water test results. And so now the state lab has stopped all testing of water. So I'd like to know if there's another lab in the metro area that's going to be testing municipal water samples for safety. But how many of those test for PFAS? I knew at the time the state of Colorado wasn't set up to test for PFAS. So where is that going to be done? The specific PFAS that are regulated and the levels that are allowed vary among states. that have these regulations. All state standards have to be at least as strict as the EPA drinking water standards that have been enacted on a federal level. What this means is this is a very serious issue. And in the very beginning, when this was exposed, they went from a part per billion down to a part per trillion. So I've always said this. It doesn't take a large number to have contamination. Absolutely doesn't. Now, again, we can treat this ourselves. We can use a point-of-use reverse osmosis unit at the kitchen sink with a separate faucet. We can use an anion resin-based system that will remove it for the whole entire house. Both of those are strongly recommended to be supported by a point-of-use water softener. You have to, you know, water filtration is not plug-and-play, and you absolutely have to remove... Hardness, iron content especially, in order for the anion resin system or the point of use reverse osmosis unit to be functional. We're going to have more information on this. We're going to continue to bring you stories, to bring you information that you can clearly find for yourself. I encourage everybody to do the research. And I think it's going to be up to us to filter and take care of our own water. But we're going to have to start knocking on the door of our politicians, especially at the state level. I haven't heard anything out of Governor Polis' administration to talk about water quality, water contamination. And what we're going to do with this PFAS problem, because Colorado has a PFAS problem for sure. Especially down south in Colorado Springs by the Air Force Base is down there. I'm sure here in Denver Metro area as well. The firefighting foam that we use in all the forest fires. Absolutely, you know, DIA with the PFAS and their firefighting foam and the drills that they use. And it's something that we learned that is spread globally. It's a bioaccumulant contamination. It's everywhere. And as it gets into the human waste and we get rid of the human waste from the waste treatment plants, it's going to get back into our water supply. Are we creating a never-ending cycle of PFAS contamination? Because these chemicals don't break down. These chemicals do not go away and they stay in our body. Stick with us. We're going to have more information on this. I appreciate you stopping by today and hanging out with us. And I want everybody to have a very blessed day. God bless you all.
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Magic mirror on the wall. Who is the fairest of them all?
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Famed is thy beauty, Majesty.
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In the new live-action remake of Snow White, Rachel Zegler's portrayal of this iconic Disney princess arrives after years of rumors and controversy about reported changes to the story. As the story opens, we meet a young princess who's been raised to embrace virtues she'll need to govern one day, traits like bravery, loyalty, and fearlessness. She and her father have endured the loss of Snow White's mother, and the king remarries an enchanting woman who quickly sends him off to stop a supposed invasion. He never returns. Before long, the new queen seizes power. She rules with an iron fist, even as Snow White sees how her cruelty and greed are hurting people, including a young bandit named Jonathan with whom she falls in love. Snow White is sympathetic to her subject's suffering, but the evil queen isn't sympathetic toward anyone, especially Snow White. Along with seven CGI dwarves, Snow White, Jonathan, and others are determined to resist the queen's tyrannical plot.
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Your Majesty. What did you say? The people need some kindness. You know, I really don't remember you being this opinionated.
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The story largely mirrors the 1937 original, though Snow White plays a much more active role in fighting back against the Evil Queen. The biggest issue for families of young children likely remains the creepy, at times dark, magic that the Evil Queen draws upon. That said, this version of the story also presents Snow White as a young woman of bravery and character, one who cares deeply and sacrificially for others. So we're giving Snow White a three and a half out of five for family friendliness. Read the full review at PluggedIn.com slash radio. I'm Adam Holtz for Focus on the Family's Plugged In Movie Review.
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HR1 Rush To Reason March 27, 2025 by John Rush
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This is Rush to Reason. You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes. With your host, John Rush. My advice to you is to do what your parents did. Get a job, sir.
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You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush, presented by Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, welcome. Thursday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Of course, Dr. Kelly Victory joining us today. I'll start with her. Dr. Kelly, welcome.
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Hey, how are you doing? I'm happy to be back. Lots going on. Lots going on on the health care side in Washington.
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Always. We'll get to that here in a moment. I'll welcome Steve next. Steve, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I'm trying to recover from the flu, but I'm getting there, and I'm capable for the show today, so I'm fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I appreciate you very much. And for those of you listening, maybe for the first time, you can go check out all of what we've done with Dr. Kelly, her credentials, the things we've talked about literally for the past five years. Go to RushToReason.com. But speaking of all of that, Dr. Kelly, yes, lots of things going on, lots of even— How should I say this? Things in the news of late as to what, you know, the COVID itself, the vaccines and what they're still finding on them and so on. We'll get into some of that today. But on the health care front, speaking of the government end of things, give us an update.
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You know, I think the biggest thing that happened certainly so far in this administration is the announcement today that HHS is making fundamental transformations of the agencies themselves. You, Steve, and I just talked about this a week or so ago with regard to how many different agencies fall under HHS. And we were certain that there was redundancy in many of those things, everything from human resources to, you know, all the different administrative components that And it looks like that has been recognized. They're doing a huge restructuring. It will end up decreasing the number of full-time employees at HHS and their different agencies from around 82,000 to 62,000. So a decrease of 20,000 employees. It's predicted to save the taxpayers nearly $2 billion a year through the reduction in redundancy there. And they're really going to focus on the things they should be focusing on to end this epidemic of chronic disease. And those things are clean water, wholesome nutrition, and eliminating environmental toxins. rather than things like creating transgender mice and spending money on things that are not delivering tangible results to the American people.
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Steve, too, the one thing that never really gets talked about as well, and you being on the admin side, I mean, Dr. Kelly can talk to this as well, but you're on the admin side, and you cut these people, and yes, there's a savings of the payroll itself, but there's always all of the other ancillary things that it takes to have an employee working, and I'm not just talking the tax burden and FICA tax and all that kind of stuff. I'm talking literally what it takes to actually house and have that person around and the things needed to keep that employee around, it adds up over time, right? Well, yeah.
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I mean, you first start with the concept that about 30% of their salary is how much it costs us extra to provide benefits. And the government benefits are better than most. It's probably a little bit higher than that. You do have all the office time, you have expenses, you have everything else that goes with that. But here's the other problem. I mean, if you even look at the state of Colorado, I mean, I worked inside the Medicaid organization and, It took years, several years, if not four or five years, to replace an IT system inside the state office on Medicaid, which in and of itself would have reduced the need for some labor, would have made things more efficient, better customer service. The problem in Washington, D.C. right now is the IT structures there. We've seen people say that the IRS, that all these other things are six years away from state of the art. And they've said that every year for the last 25 years. So all of these people, many of the redundancies are probably, John, because they just have really lousy systems that they haven't fixed and they just overcome them with people.
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Dr. Kelly, you're on the receiving end of that as a doctor, and you know how a lot of this works in regards to the forms that have to be filed and the things that have to be done billing-wise and so on. And I've heard personally from doctors like you that I have known that in some cases they just, well, Dr. Scott, for example, is one of those. They just get out of it. No more insurance, no more messing around with all that nonsense. I'll concentrate on patient care and get rid of all of this red tape that literally is out there. It's far too much. Will we ever see an end to some of that?
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I think we will, and I think this is on the right path. It remains to be seen what will happen at CMS, Center for Medicare and Medicaid, that's going to be run by Mehmet Oz. But they need to eliminate so much of the red tape involved in that and in the insurance industry. For every single physician on the front lines, there are five or six people in the back office just trying to manage the insurance and get paid for Trying to get in network with an insurer is very, very difficult. It's an owner's task. And these are all activities that do nothing to improve the health or wellness of any of your patients. It's a bunch of paperwork and paper pushing that takes up insane amounts of time and does nothing, which is why we end up where we are right now with the fattest, most sedentary, you know, You know, highest rates of diabetes, obesity, hypertension, kidney disease. It's really a pathetic state of affairs. And it's because we've been wasting our time, money and resources on paperwork rather than taking care of patients.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, when it comes to some of the IT end of things, which you're very familiar with as well, I think one of the things for me personally that I get frustrated over is just the simple fact that we've got private sector companies that do really well at developing the things that we need governmentally speaking that would streamline A lot of things. And I have to believe that either one of two things has happened over the years. It's either one of those things where nobody wants change and or the amount of government red tape it takes to go through some of those changes. Most don't want to do or those quotes get, you know, those those bids get so overinflated because of what I just said that at the end of the day, they just keep doing what they do year after year after year. And to your point, now, some 25 years later, this updated system we were supposed to have, we still don't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah. In fact, almost every large corporation that works in the tech space or even in the food service space, anything that supplies stuff that the government would consume will have a commercial division and they'll have a government piece. And so you just think about that. So why do you need a separate group of people just to work with the government? And the answer is because systems are archaic, processes and regulations are overdone. It takes way too much time. So you literally dedicate individual people. It would be like you having an auto mechanic business, and you had one or two guys who would do nothing but service government vehicles because the regulation to do the service was so much more intense than in a good commercial practice. Coupled with that, the combination of systems that we do have, We test, we looked at doctors' schedules over the last year. A doctor will be off six days a month in some cases, and in that six days, they log on to the EHR and do charting and other things virtually every day. You rarely ever find one person, one doctor, who takes one full day off in a month on a regular 12-month basis. They're always working, so that's why they're burnt out.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that's why, Dr. Kelly, we have a lot of doctors that have switched over to either a concierge practice or they go specialize in what people can criticize. They go to plastic surgery or they go do other things that don't involve insurance where the customer is directly paying. And frankly, at the end of the day, are probably a lot happier and wealthier when it's all said and done and probably have happier patients.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, without question. Listen, my veterinarians got it figured out. They won't even look at your pet until you give them your credit card. Okay. And frankly, with medicine, it is amazing is no longer, you know, the something that people should go into if they think they're going to make, you know, a significant amount of income. The amount that you actually are able to recoup from the insurance companies, the reimbursements are very, very low. And once you have to be paying that five or six people in the back office in order to get it, it truly has impacted doctors' bottom line. So doctors are working more hours. They're working more than ever, getting paid less than ever. and their quality of life and job satisfaction is very low. At the same time, the experience for the patients is lousy because in order to make ends meet, doctors are scheduling their patients tighter and tighter. You have less and less time. It's very, very common for people to tell me when they go to see their doctor, their experience is, The doctor either never sits down or has his or her hand on the doorknob the entire time that they're talking to the patient. That's not a good optic. It doesn't make people feel that they're being listened to or being cared for. And frankly, it becomes just algorithmic protocol driven medicine rather than the doctor actually sitting down, taking time, listening to your individual concerns and crafting a care plan that is tailored to you and your specific health care issues.
SPEAKER 09 :
Almost in bear with me here, Dr. Kelly, because I don't know exactly what it was like in the real old days where you had traveling doctors with the black bag. They went from house to house and so on. Now, I did grow up in a time where we didn't have a lot of the insurance nonsense that we had today. you know, folks paid out of pocket for a lot of smaller things. You had a catastrophic plan and things like that. But it almost seems like everything you just said a moment ago, Dr. Kelly, that we're almost going back in time. And the way I want to explain that is, and I think I'm correct in this, Dr. Kelly, at one point in time, being a doctor wasn't really looked upon like we look upon doctors today. I was at a trivia thing last night, and one of the questions was, it was the bonus question, what's the most rewarding job out there? The answer was... Doctor, well, have we switched to where it's not that any longer because of what you just said, Dr. Kelly? And there was a time even here in the U.S. where being a doctor actually was frowned upon.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely, and frankly, I think it is not the most rewarding thing at all, unfortunately, because of the amount of red tape. When I was growing up, we did have a pediatrician who made house calls. We went to see that doctor in the office for routine things, for which we paid cash, by the way. When the doctor made a house call, including on Christmas Day or whatever, it was a holiday, six brothers and sisters, somebody was always sick. I can absolutely recall my father either handing him cash or writing a check if he didn't have cash because that was what was expected. So our pediatrician didn't have to waste time filing insurance claims. We had insurance, and you had to have it in case, God forbid, you had a car accident or you fell off the roof and broke your arm and needed surgery, things like that. It's what we called major medical back in the day or catastrophic insurance coverage. Everything else... You know, the the antibiotics that you took for your strep throat or your routine immunizations or your well baby check got paid for in cash because that's how it's supposed to work. Insurance was never meant to cover routine things. I use the example all the time. Can you imagine what car insurance, you know, your industry, John, what car insurance would cost? If you expected your car insurance to cover filling up your car with gas and getting the tires rotated and the oil change, it would be astronomical.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. No, you're 100% correct. And again, Steve, I'm not trying to downplay current doctors by any means. I mean, I value all of them and appreciate what they do, but it almost seems like we're disincentivizing even new people to come into that field because of what Dr. Kelly just said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so a couple of things. Number one, when I was growing up, If you were really sick and it was hard to see a doctor, you just went to Galilee and talked to Jesus directly about getting recovery. That was the only way it was back in those days. But in all truthfulness, one of the things I do remember, and certainly the demographics support this, the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, you know, the baby boomers were in the heart of their lives. We didn't have and I was born in 1960. We didn't have the same level of vaccines. We didn't have the same level of food problems. So and there wasn't this huge demographic that there is right now that is old. Right. I mean, that's essentially my age. Right. The baby boomers. I mean, the youngest baby boomers were born in 64 years. You know, that aging process has created this massive demand for health care, and the pharmaceutical companies have been more than happy to find drugs to deal with symptoms. And to go back to Kelly's vet example for a second, if you go to your vet and you know you're going to pay $500 because your dog's overweight and they need a hip replacement, When the vet tells you what you need to do for your dog, you do it because you don't want to pay $500 the next time you show up. That's right. So you're more incentivized by paying for the bill yourself.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you get better outcomes that way.
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No liberal media bias here. This is Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly, Victory, Steve House with us as well. All right, a few text messages that came in. I'll start with this one, Dr. Kelly. Somebody actually texted me yesterday and said, would I ask you this today? And that is kids going back to school, things along those lines. Some of that will happen in the fall, although some are getting things registered and getting things ready even for next fall. Now, some schools requiring certain vaccines that you as a parent may not agree with. What do you do in that particular situation?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I would absolutely encourage people to push back. I would ask for a you know, you can try to get a religious exemption. You can get a personal choice exemption. I believe that if you bide your time, many, if not all of the vaccine mandates are likely to go away under this new administration. There's tremendous impetus for them to do that. Robert Kennedy Jr. is certainly aware that this is on everybody's radar. It's something that I believe they are working on. President Trump has already signed an executive order to eliminate mandates in any country. state or federally funded universities. So I think it will happen. I would push back. I would use it as a personal exemption and say that your child can stay in school until such time as it gets litigated. And I would not give in to pressure. If you feel strongly about it, I would hold your ground. I think the issue is that we've got to push back. We've got to demand that we get some sort of relief from the government, and I think it is coming. So I would bide your time, I guess is what I'm saying, because I believe In the same way that I said this about the COVID shots themselves. People said, well, I have to take one because I can't travel. I can't do this. And I said, bide your time because the mandates will go away. And sure enough, they did. So those of us who stood our ground are looking pretty good right now. And I feel badly for the people who did not or felt that they could not stand their ground at the time. This will go away, I believe. And I think it's going to happen in this administration.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and Steve, you can chime in on that, too, if you would like. By the way, thank you, Dr. Kelly, for that, and I think that listener is probably listening. If not, I'll make sure that I text that back. Your thoughts on all that, Steve?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, first of all, state constitutions mandate that all children who live in the state are entitled to an education. Yes, there are rules that the states can make around education. But one of the challenges I would have is to say, look, it's absolutely my child's right to go to school. I'm not getting them vaccinated because I don't believe that it's healthy and proper for them to be vaccinated. And you are not allowed to control the health of my child. So that's one thing. Number two, if it is mandatory and that's the only way, I've got a form for you to sign that says if my child is vaccine injured, you will assume liability for his medical care. And, you know, those are really fighting words, but I've just gotten so sick of the idea that with all of the data regarding children and COVID vaccines, especially why they would still have that posture is beyond me. And frankly, somebody ought to hold them liable for it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Agreed. This one I want to slip in just because I think it's a little bit easier question maybe, Dr. Kelly, for you. What's better for sleep, melatonin or magnesium glycinate?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't think there's a better or worse. I think people need to pick the one that works for them. For some people, melatonin does a brilliant job. For others, it's magnesium. Not me. It's a combination of the two. Yeah, not me.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, for some odd reason, that stuff keeps me up, and I do not know why. I can't answer why, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 11 :
And as I said, you have to figure out what's best for you. I'm the same way with Benadryl. Benadryl is the active ingredient in over-the-counter sleep aids like Sominex. I take a Benadryl when I'm climbing off the walls. So it's the worst possible thing for me. So it's a very independent. There's not one that's better or worse. I think both of them are reasonable things to try, meaning magnesium and melatonin are both reasonable things to try. The best thing you can do, frankly, I hate to say. is to put down your blue screens, put down the phone, put down the iPad, turn off the TV some hours before you actually want to go to sleep when most people do exactly the opposite. Most people are on their iPad in bed those screens emit blue light, and that blue light turns off the portion of your brain that normally naturally produces melatonin. Melatonin is something we all have in our bodies, but we aren't producing enough of it in some part because of the amount of time we spend in front of screens that emit blue light. So I think the best thing you can do is get into some better sleep habits, including turning off your screen some hours before you want to go to bed, and obviously then, you know, things like avoiding caffeine or those sorts of things for a number of hours.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Next one, and there's some video going around. I got this text earlier. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I recommend a simple solution. It's called Jack Daniels. You do that, and it will help you sleep. There you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, there's that too.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. On a more serious note, I've been studying some of the testing that came through MKUltra and some of these other things that were done by the CIA. And one of the things that they talked about was that they used blue screens to actually try to influence people's minds on issues, right? So not only is it turning off the melatonin, but I think sometimes it's talking to you. I think they're trying to message you. And that makes it even worse. I couldn't echo Kelly's stuff more. You need to shut it down. Read an actual book. Yeah. Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you might be better off. All right. Video going around. I think I sent this to both of you as well. We'll talk about this. I want to spend a little more time here because there's I still think a lot of how should I say this? There's just a lot of stuff out there. I don't I don't want to say it's good, bad or otherwise. There's just a lot of stuff out there when it comes to MRNA and even the repercussions of COVID itself. And there's some folks out there now basically claiming that. You know, there are ways to get rid of the shot in your body. They can last anywhere from two to three years. And there are things you can do to actually, quote, unquote, flush your system of the mRNA. And Dr. Kelly, as I was watching some of that earlier today, I thought, well, that's not what I have heard you say. Unless something has changed here of late, I thought once that mRNA is in you, it's in you.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is, and certainly I am unaware at this juncture of any way to eliminate the mRNA. There are absolutely ways to decrease the toxic component, which is the spike protein. To be clear, the mRNA gives the roadmap or the instruction manual, if you will, for your cells to start producing the spike proteins. And that we know is the toxic portion of the virus is that spike protein itself. There are numbers of things that we know that will decrease the concentration of spike protein, and that includes some enzymes like natokinase and bromelain. I am unaware at this point, unfortunately, of how to rid yourself of the mRNA, so I'd love to hear what these folks are thinking. And maybe that is really the brass ring. What we need to come up with is a way to eliminate the mRNA or to turn it off at a minimum, even if you don't eliminate, to tell it to stop sending the messages to your cells to produce these toxic proteins. As at this point, you know, we are now 709 days was the longest study that shows that people who are vaccinated are continuing to produce new spike proteins two years after they were last injected. That's very scary.
SPEAKER 09 :
And at the same time, Steve, promoting that you keep getting re-injected. So we've still got that going on all the way down into infants, by the way, which we didn't get a chance to talk about much last week. Steve, this is just craziness.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know it's three times in your first year starting out at like six months. I have a question for Kelly. I mean, I listen to Kelly while I'm on the radio station with you guys all the time. And my question, Kelly, is, you know, there's been a lot of things good and bad done with CRISPR over the years. Do you think there's some guys out there with CRISPR who are trying to figure out how to alter or change the genetics enough to kill the spike protein and repair? You know, what's going on? I mean, is that, I mean, those are, those are sometimes scary things, but I just wondered if you'd heard anything about that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, that's certainly what people are working on or looking for because, as I said, that's the brass ring. You can continue to eliminate spike proteins, but the bottom line is, you know, it's kind of the difference between, you know, putting an ant trap out and catching, you know, the ants that are out there versus eliminating, you know, the nest. You're trying to eliminate where these things are coming from. Otherwise, you're just in a perpetual cycle. cycle of trying to eliminate the toxin. So absolutely, there are folks who are looking at how do we turn off the mRNA, if not actually eliminating that genetic component from the cell nucleus, how do you actually turn it off so it's not sending the messages? And it may, ironically, be with another mRNA injection. It may take mRNA to turn off the original mRNA. which is scary and is going to have, you know, there's going to be a lot of resistance to that, but that may be the ultimate fix. You would think these are the kinds of things, by the way, that should have been hashed out before they injected, you know, more than half of the planet with this stuff. You know, this is not the time to be looking to say, oh, by the way, how do we eliminate this or turn it off? You know, where's the off switch? Oh, we forgot about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Here in the U.S., Dr. Kelly, as you know, and Steve as well, it's like 80% of the folk out there ended up getting at least one of the shots. Steve, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, you know, look, if they don't figure this out, I mean, because the numbers on not only the spike protein being produced after two years, it's how much of it is being produced. It's a large quantity. And then we saw that article this week about the cancer impact. I mean, I honestly, you know, we don't try to scare people on the show. But if you told me what I know now about the spike protein and what it does. And the risk of cancer, I would have a hard time sleeping a lot of days just knowing that when I wake up tomorrow, something's going to be growing because this stuff is so heinously bad. I mean, it's just really, really bad. And I think people should be worried about it. I think, you know, they should encourage people to find solutions to it because if they don't find solutions to it, as we talked about earlier, you know, a thousand people will die. You never knew and never thought about it. And they'll just keep doing it until there's none of us left.
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House. Again, if you're new, just listening for the first time, go to our website, RushToReason.com. There's a page there dedicated to Dr. Kelly and links to a lot of the things that we have talked about over the past five years plus. Dr. Kelly, I'm thinking out loud. And there was an article that we were sending around to one another talking about the turbo cancers, things, by the way, that you talked about a while back. And a lot, unfortunately, I'm not celebrating this, but a lot of what you and Steve both talked about several years ago are now coming to fruition, and they keep coming. keeps growing and getting larger. So the question I have, knowing that I talked to a lot of people, not only you on Thursdays, but during health and wellness, I talked to a lot of different people about nutrition and health and cancers and so on. And knowing that, you know, cancers feed off of sugar and frankly, other bad habits health wise. If I were somebody that had happened to get a shot and maybe now regret getting it, but there's, as we've talked, really no reversal of at this point in time, would it behoove me to, to take myself completely off of all things sugar, reduce my carbs, in other words, try to eat as clean, quote-unquote, as possible to try to counter some of that, or does it make any difference?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think it makes a huge difference. There's no question for anybody, independent of your vaccine status and whether or not you've put yourself at increased risk for developing cancer because you've taken one or more mRNA injections. I think it makes sense for everybody. We now recognize... cancer is largely a metabolic disease. It is not just a genetic disease the way that we once thought, and it has to do a lot with the American diet. The fact that we eat so much sugar, that we eat so frequently, that we rarely go without eating, meaning short periods of fasting, and we eat tremendous amounts of sugar, as you said, which is the preferred energy source for cancers. So I think it moves everybody to limit the amount of sugar that they take. Americans eat a tremendous amount of added sugar. And just becoming more cognizant of that, start looking at labels and starting to decrease the amount of added sugar that you take in on a regular basis. In my mind, there's absolutely no justification for anybody to drink a regular soft drink today. If you don't like diet drinks and there are lots of reasons not to drink them, then go to seltzer water, mineral water, iced tea, something else. The amount of sugar in a can of regular soda is astronomical and there's no justification for it. Save your sugar for something else. With regard to the increased risk of cancers from these shots, yes, as you said, I did predict it. I predicted it early on before the shots were rolled out. I said this is going to cause cancer. It's going to suppress the immune system, and the immune system is the first line of defense against cancers, unfortunately. what I predicted has come to fruition in a really tragic way. We are seeing overwhelming numbers of turbo cancers, meaning very, very aggressive cancers and cancers that are happening in people in age groups in which we never saw them before. And what I'm talking about is things like aggressive colon cancers in people in their teens and 20s, aggressive ovarian cancers in women in their 20s and 30s, in recurrence of cancers that had been in remission sometimes for well over a decade, now coming back with a vengeance. This was predictable, and unless we get our arms around it, the next decades are going to be, unfortunately, fraught with a lot of pain and suffering.
SPEAKER 09 :
You probably know this answer, Steve. You might as well. I'm going to throw it out there anyways just to see I just looked it up, and granted, this is the average. So some consume more, some consume less. This is the average. Do you know how many pounds of sugar on average an American consumes each year?
SPEAKER 03 :
A hundred? I'm guessing. I don't know the answer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Ding, ding, ding. You are the winner, Steve.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, think about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Think about that. Yeah, thank you. Think about that. I mean, Dr. Kelly, when you put it in that perspective and you say the average American is eating, consuming 100 pounds of sugar a year, most of them wouldn't believe that's the case. But to your point earlier, when you look at what's in a soft drink even and how much sugar is in it, yeah, it doesn't take much to get to that 100 pounds. And by the way, like I said, that's the average. There are some out there probably consuming half of that and others consuming twice that much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. If you look at the amount of sugar, for example, the number of people I know who say, oh, I don't eat breakfast. I just stop and get a coffee. And what they mean when they get stopping at a coffee is they go to Starbucks and get some coffee beverage, which has the amount of sugar that's in three cans of Coca-Cola. So the amount of sugar that is added to some of these things is ridiculous, and portion sizes have gotten out of control. In the 1950s, a normal size of a soft drink was 8 ounces. Then it went to 12 ounces. Then it went to 16 ounces. Now when you go and get a regular soft drink, at McDonald's, it's a 24-ounce drink, okay? It is three times what it was in the 1950s. Yet people think, oh, you know, all I had was a Coke. Well, no, you actually had three Cokes, and it's that amount of sugar. And so I think that certainly what we are consuming is adding to the issue with cancers, but it is all eclipsed, unfortunately, by the tragedy that was the mRNA shots for COVID.
SPEAKER 09 :
Steve, again, we were sending that video around. Actually, Tucker Carlson has done some interviews and some videos on this of late, which not to toot our own horn, but it's funny. We've got now Tucker Carlson running around talking about and interviewing some of the same things that, Steve, you, I, and Dr. Kelly have literally been talking about for four-plus years. Now it's almost like, I love you, Tucker, but no offense, you're a little behind the times here.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I read that article, Eric. I was listening to what he was talking about, and I came up with a conclusion that I'll ask you guys whether you agree or not, too. But when I think about Kelly Victory, Simone Gold, Peter McCullough, Marty, all these guys... including Ron Johnson, who's not a doctor but a senator, I think the difference between the group of people, John, that you and I got exposed to through Kelly, and I had some direct exposure to as well, is they never overreacted. They didn't, like, look at it and go, oh, my God, the world is going insane and it's crazy and all this other stuff regarding the virus itself. They looked at it like a scientist and said, we got a problem. what's the problem really all about what are the concerns it is a virus it is a coronavirus yada yada and they started thinking they never stopped thinking to be honest with you i think the people who came up with solutions and we will come up with solutions going forward and the people like that and kelly and her team were great at it i heard it you know on weekly calls with a bunch of people across the country she invited me to and that was it they never panicked they kept thinking they kept being scientists and doctors and that's why we had the advantage
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I agree. I agree. All right. This was a question, more of a thought that came in that, by the way, I don't know that I can argue with this. And I'll talk to Dr. Kelly. I'll ask you first. And Steve, you can chime in. I foresee groups of specialists that work for insurance companies forming an alliance to make all advice, medically speaking. Then something like a PA will staff the facilities and nurses to administer that advice. There will be no more primary care physicians unless you go the concierge route, but then you have to wonder if the hospital will allow your concierge to get you admitted to actually then go see a specialist. Dr. Kelly, your thoughts? That was from a listener, by the way.
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Well, I certainly hope that's not the way it's going, but I don't think it's far off. There's no question that we are on a slippery slope when they started allowing PAs and nurse practitioners to to be fundamentally stand-ins for physicians. The level of training is vastly different. The level of experience is vastly different. There's a role for PAs and surgical assistants and nurse practitioners, absolutely, but they should not be replacing somebody who went to 12 years of You know, education and had a lot more has a lot more experience. It all comes down to dollars and cents and what the insurance companies and what hospitals want to pay for. Unfortunately, people have been lulled to believe that these algorithms and let's face it, that's what AI is. It's all algorithmic. that is a substitute for the thinking human brain. And it's going to dumb down, if you will, the quality of medicine that everybody gets. And those people who are able to afford it will go the concierge route and the rest of the people will get sort of what happens when you go the socialized route, which is everybody gets a mediocre level of care and nobody gets really great care.
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Steve, your thoughts on all of that? Again, you're on the admin side, so you of all people will see some of this stuff sooner probably than later when it comes to that.
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Well, statistically, country by country across the world who are delivering longer lifespans at a lower cost per capita all of them pay their primary care providers around 15% of the healthcare dollar that they spend. We spend about 5% or 6% on primary care. When primary care and internal medicine physicians See patients first, develop a relationship with them. They reduce emergency room visits by somewhere between 70% and 80% typically. We are going in the opposite direction. We are trying to minimize primary care when it is the one thing where the statistics never vary. If you have strong primary care, if you pay them well, if they get a chance to develop relationships, you get more doctors going into that business, and you get a better outcome, longer life at a lower cost.
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Dr. Kelly, when it comes to HHS and a lot of the things that are getting revamped, as you said earlier, a question that I have, given the fact that I just threw out that number of 100 pounds of sugar a year is what the average American actually consumes. Do you see Robert Kennedy Jr. and his staff focusing on some of these things that even we've talked about today? In other words, educating people that, hey, do you all know you're taking in 100 pounds of sugar a year?
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Absolutely. And I think that rather than, quote, banning things, you know, the idea I am not a proponent of, you know, banning, you know, Scorpies or Binkles. I think, you know, people should be able to make their own choices. But what you can do is use the power of the purse to incentivize companies to do the right thing, to come up with products that have less sugar, for example, that don't include artificial dyes and artificial colorings, artificial preservatives. And you can certainly use the power of the purse to ban or keep those things out of the schools because you say, here's the deal. We're not going to give you the contract for the school lunch program if your foods include these things or that they have more than X number of grams. added sugar per serving kind of thing so I yes I think that you can motivate people people are largely motivated by things like fear and they are motivated by money they're motivated by it is you know watch people's behavior They do not want to do anything that's difficult. That's why so many people flock to stuff like Ozempic. They want a pill or an injection or a quick fix rather than the thing that's harder to do. So I think this new administration will hopefully use the power of the purse to incentivize companies to create healthier products. They will return physical education, hopefully, to the school curriculum. The idea that kids in elementary school no longer have to spend you know, 45 minutes or whatever, five days a week doing something physically active. That's a tragedy that it's during those formative years that kids learn to appreciate daily exercise, which is a core component of good health. It cannot be done with diet alone. And we've got to get back to some of those basics. And those things, by the way, are largely free. They don't cost Americans a lot of money.
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Great point. Steve, your thoughts on all of that and what we might see? Again, lots of changes. I've heard Dr. Kelly and some of you talk about some of those changes that hopefully we'll see coming out of HHS. But I, for one, I hope that, A, we get some of these pharmaceutical ads off of the air and, by the way, replace them with some of this educational stuff that we're talking about right now.
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Yeah, I have two or three things that I tend to follow fairly closely, John. One is you cannot ask a person to replace a habit. with a dramatic change. So if you eat M&Ms every day at 10 a.m. in the morning as a snack, you know, and a nutritionist says, I want you eating broccoli, it's too dramatic of a change. So it has to be, you know, a process you go through. The second thing is take out all the toxins, right? I mean, I think Kelly's right about that. I mean, if you get all the toxins out and I'm still eating food that isn't necessarily great for me, at least I'm not getting bad food and toxins to go with it. And the third thing is There are a couple of simple metrics, you know, 10,000 steps today, actually 8,000 steps. You know, you shorten all-cause mortality by like 40%. If you can sit on the floor and get up off the floor without using your hands, that level of flexibility, you live 60%, you know, all-cause mortality goes away. I mean, there's lots of things like that. Just give us the simple stuff and don't expect a miracle. And I think people will be incentivized, but make food toxin-free and not quite as bad for us, and we'll see it happen.
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A few minutes left here, Dr. Kelly. I'll give you the floor on this one because with all of what's happening right now with Robert Kennedy Jr., the left, of course, has already been unhinged. I can already feel their unhingeness in the additional cuts that are now going to happen out of that. And I can already hear the people out there, oh, there's just no way we can handle things. Nobody will be healthy again. There's no way we can run things with that less staff and on and on and on. I mean, I guess my question is, how do they fight against all of this left nonsense that keeps coming out?
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They fight with results. It's going to be results. They're going to have to show. I have no question they can do it. The amount, the bloated, you know, administration that's happening in these agencies has been going on for decades. I think cutting it out and then proving results that they start to deliver on some of these things. If we start to see true, you know, reductions, even a fraction of a point of reduction in the rates of obesity, for example, among school children. You know, the fact that We've got 40% of adolescents are pre-diabetic in the United States. Wow. Forty. Four out of ten. We can't sustain that. So if they could make some changes in over a two- or three-year period, say it's not 40% anymore, it's 30% or 35%. Certainly horrific numbers still, but it's going to be results-driven, John. They're going to have to prove that with fewer people they can spend less money and do more. And I think it's possible. I think this is exactly, Robert Kennedy Jr., if anybody's the one to do it, and along with the cuts that Elon Musk is making, I think they can show better results for less money.
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Steve, you've been in the corporate world for a long time. I've run small businesses my entire adult life. The reality is I for one know that in a lot of cases, despite what people might think, you can actually get more with less because you become more efficient. Your thoughts on that?
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What do you mean get more with less in that context, John?
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Less people getting more work done because in some cases, more people just adds to the convolution of what's going on. And in a lot of cases in business, you can get more productivity and more done with less people.
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Well, you can. I mean, I think there's a tipping point on everything, right? Of course. I mean, you know, like if you walk into a car rental place these days and they got one person working and 27 people in line, you know, more people doesn't make it worse. They make it better because they can do that. Right. Right. I mean, the problem is with. systems that are inefficient.
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Well, but really quick, I'm going to go back to your example really quick before we move on. On the same token, if there's six checkout lanes there, and all of a sudden there's 24 people there that are all trying to do the same thing, that's an example of too many people make it worse.
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Yeah, in fact, I'll give you a clinical example. We just did a study at a hospital in New England. Eight cardiologists come in on the same day. There are five exam rooms. They are far worse off getting patients through the process that day than the day that they have four cardiologists in five exam rooms. So, yeah, there's that type of scenario. The problem with the government is that there's just not enough money when you have these kind of deficits to do the training, the implementation, all the things we really need to do to make this government run efficiently, and medicine as well. Medicine is horribly inefficient in so many ways. There are too many people, but there are too many people because we haven't changed the culture or the processes to fix it.
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I'll leave it at that. We can continue this on next week. Dr. Kelly, victory as always. Thank you for your time. It always flies by.
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Thanks for having me. Look forward to it next week.
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I appreciate it. Steve, you as well. Appreciate you, man. Hope you feel better. I do too, John, and it's good to be with you every week. All right, man. Appreciate you very much. Veteran Windows and Doors up next. 35% off if you buy up to three windows. If you do four windows or more, it's 40% off free labor on both of those deals. Go to klzradio.com.
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All right, that was a great time we had with Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House. And I appreciate Steve joining us, even though he is recovering from a flu bug and not feeling well. But that's just the kind of individual that he is. And I will say this all the time, as you can tell from today. Anytime you have something you would like me to ask, yes, I add that to my notes. I have that ready when they are with me. That way I can ask those questions or answer those questions directly. So what I'm saying there is if there's anything you would like to ask them now or in the future, even throughout the next several days, before we get into next Thursday, just send me a text message, 307. 200-82-22. Again, 307-200-82-22. I'll add that to my notes. I'll get that question asked, and we'll have them back again next week, Lord willing. Next hour, we'll be back. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Average guys.
Prepare for a spirited discussion as Mike tackles the ongoing debate about defunding NPR and PBS. With taxpayer concerns at the forefront, he questions the necessity of public funding for media outlets with clear political biases. Listen in as listeners join the discussion, bringing their passion and opinions on this divisive topic. Amidst the debate, Mike doesn't miss highlighting his ongoing fundraising campaign to support struggling communities through the trusted charity, Food for the Poor.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, here's Mike Deller.
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Yesterday, I asked this audience how much time you want to spend on Signalgate. And you all said nada, nunca, nine. We are not going to be giving the Democrats their Christmas present. But I am going to put it in the proper context. And believe me, we're not going to take calls. Well, I don't want to not take calls, but you know what I mean. We're not going to waste a bunch of time giving the Trump opponents the victory that they so desperately yearn for. They think they got it. We got him now. Oh, boy. We got him now. The Atlantic editor heard a call about Yemen. That's it. It's all over now. And they're all thumping their chests. And they're squeaking and shrieking and hollering. And they want Pete Hegseth's, you know, head over the mantle. They want Mike Waltz's scalp. They want Trump. Well, Trump should resign. Actually, that's what should happen. I'm now officially calling on Donald Trump to resign because his national security team used a Signal app and somehow the editor of The Atlantic got invited in. I think the president himself needs to step down. Look, I've been thinking a lot about this. I really am disappointed and shocked. I'm shocked. I'm positively shocked at the behavior of the Trump administration. They're destroying democracy. It's over. I mean, it's completely shattered. This country is over. We are living through times that are a million times worse than Pearl Harbor, than 9-11, than anything. The bubonic plague, it's terrible. And it's time for Donald Trump to go. Now, you know, if I could be on MSNBC, and that audience, I guess, would think that's normal. That's what passes for normal discourse. So I'm just going to play one clip and then move on. Because, again, I'm tired of... fake ginned up controversies when you know how what a bad shape the democrats are in but we better be careful about something because they're trying to claw back and there's a couple of special elections where maga is staying home you're not showing up Trump supporters and Republicans and right of center, even left of center people who are tired of the status quo, they're not showing up. Race in Pennsylvania. Now, it's Pennsylvania, and I get it. I get it. Pennsylvania, it's like sometimes there's something in the water in that beautiful commonwealth. So once again, a Democrat has won a race that the Republican, I would have thought, would have won. Now they're worried about Florida. And it's only because people aren't showing up. It's like, well, we got what we wanted on November 5th, and now the job is over. It is not. It is not over. Shake yourself. Show up. You've got to vote. It doesn't end now because you're going to put us on a collision course if you keep giving Democrats the victories that they desperately need right now because they're lost in the wilderness. I heard Kurt Schlichter today. I heard him on Chris DeGaulle's show. We had Kurt on the other day, but Kurt this morning was on fire. And we've got to find the clip. Christian, see if you can find the clip of Michael Corleone. I think it was Michael, not Don Corleone, was in an interaction with a politician. And the politician wanted to know, what will you give us as a tit-for-tat or as an exchange or as a, you know, what will you give us? And Michael Corleone's response was, nothing. I give you nothing. Well, that's what Kurt was saying about this Signalgate scandal. Trump shouldn't fire anybody. Don't give them what they want. Deal with it internally. Slap somebody on the wrist and move on. Give them nothing. They deserve nothing. All they want is to tear down this administration that has had two months of epic, epic success. But let me give you 39 seconds, and this is the only 39 seconds I will devote to Signalgate. I give you Greg Gutfeld from Fox News.
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Trump is more popular now than ever because people have good faith in his aims. And maybe perhaps, you know, there'll be mistakes along the way. But the Signal app story, it's the kids menu in the restaurant. The adults come in there. You know, they're going to have sushi and a T-bone. What do they get for the kids? The media, their God, they got to eat to the chicken fingers.
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Yeah.
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The signal story is the chicken fingers on the menu. Here, give it to the brat so he won't throw a tantrum. They're going to have this story for another day or so, and then they're going to find something else, and it's always going to be about the process because the aims are too good. Perfect.
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Perfect. That's it. Now, I'm not comfortable telling you not to call me. I mean, instinctively, I want you to call me here in the Relief Factor studios. We walk in here every day committed to you, this audience. This audience that, by the way, has donated over $125,000 to our Food for the Poor campaign to feed starving children in some of the poorest places in the world. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Wow, I'm so blessed to be surrounded by such wonderful people. I'm just honored beyond words. The campaign ends tomorrow. MikeOnline.com if you want to contribute. Thank you so much for supporting this Christian ministry, Food for the Poor. So it's a joy to walk into this audience and to deal with all this stuff that we deal with day after day after day. So look, again, since it's... counterintuitive for me to say don't call. Maybe this is the segment where we'll say if you want to respond in any way about the so-called signal gate, now's your chance. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Again, I don't want to belabor this. I'm with you. Yesterday I asked this audience, do you want to spend any time? No, no, move on, move on. Everybody said move on, move on, move on. I'm willing to move on, but I don't like telling you not to call me. I want to make sure I'm not leaving anybody out. Because everybody's welcome. The Mike Gallagher Show is a big tent. So give me a call if you want to chime in for a couple of minutes on Signalgate. Either agreeing with Greg, maybe. Is he right? Are you one of those Republicans deeply concerned about the Signal app? Oh, no. Incidentally, if there was any classified information in that chat, it's against the law to release classified information. Yesterday, The Atlantic released it all, so I guess they confirmed there was no classified material in the chat. Thank you, Atlantic. But that's it. That's all I'm saying. We'll see what you want to say. And again, if you call, you call. If you don't, you don't. And we'll move on. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Welcome in. I'm moving out. I'm moving out. I'm moving out. I just got the daily report for our Food for the Poor campaign. Look, if the new kid on the block, Chris DeGaulle, beats us in the campaign, I'm in big trouble. I'm giving up. You can't let that happen. If you like what we do, because we're all doing this together, this Food for the Poor campaign, I'm going to give you the phone number that I didn't give you a moment ago. I just need 400 people to pop in 100 bucks. Let's get 100 people today to donate $100. Food for the Poor. This is what we do. We do this a few times a year. And here's the phone number that I left out before. If you want to make a phone call, have your credit card standing by and call Food for the Poor. 844-860-HOPE. That's 844-860-4673. Or you can go to mikeonline.com, click on that banner at the top of the page, or just text the keyword food to 800-655-MIKE, and we'll send you back the link. And thank you, thank you, thank you for supporting our Food for the Poor campaign. Come on, let's get there. Come on, 400 people. Wouldn't it be amazing? How astounding would it be if I could touch the hearts of 400 people, maybe even you, Ed, in Naples? Instead of being grumpy at me, feed starving children. Clothe the naked. Feed the hungry. Partner with the Christian ministry. All I need is 400 people to donate 100 bucks, and we're there. We've got our goal. Maybe we could do it today. Go to mikeonline.com, click on the banner, or call 844-860-HOPE. Call 844-860-4673. However you reach out, I do hope you'll join me as folks just like you all over America step up to help our friends at the Christian nonprofit international relief organization, Food for the Poor. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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The Mike Gallagher Show.
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Would you be interested in defunding and taking away taxpayer dollars to NPR and PBS?
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Well, I would love to do that. I think it's very unfair. It's been very biased for the whole group. The kind of money that's being wasted, and it's a very biased view. You know that better than anybody. And I'd be honored to see it end.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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And President Trump took to Truth Social last night and said, absolutely, it's time to defund PBS and NPR. And that doesn't mean they go away. Look, I know they do good work. Just like Hollywood cranks out great movies. Apparently with the exception of Snow White. Oh my gosh. Did you see what the son of the producer of Snow White said about the young lady who plays Snow White? The woke, Trump-hating, conservative, despising woman named Rachel Ziegler? Oh my gosh. I'll get into that here in just a moment, but... But look, I appreciate good work, even if I don't agree with the ideology of the people behind it. It only comes down to one thing for me, taxpayer expense. We're broke. This country can't afford to fund programming that details the history of the tsetse fly. Taxpayers should not be asked to pay for ideology that they don't agree with. And I'd say present company included. No taxpayer should fund the Mike Gallagher show. And even if it's a small portion of my budget. President Trump last night demanded that Congress immediately defund National Public Radio and the Public Broadcasting Service. He wrote, Republicans don't miss this opportunity to rid our country of this giant scam, both being arms of the radical left Democrat Party. And, again, let them do what they do. They just have to pay for it themselves, like the rest of us do. See, this hits close to home for me as a years-long broadcaster. I know all about budgets and expenses and revenues. We work hard to earn your trust and get you to support our advertisers, which support this show. A lot of people bristle, oh, you've got advertisers. Of course we've got advertisers. We've got good advertisers, good sponsors. And they fund the programming that you hopefully appreciate. We do things for, we do try to, four times a year or so, a few times a year, we try to do good things for people in need, like the Food for the Poor campaign, where right now you've donated like $125,000 to our $40,000 campaign. That's how big your heart is. That's how you roll. That's what you do. And we're eternally grateful to you. So this is only about taxpayer funding. NPR is going to have to sell more tote bags. And incidentally, here's the dirty little secret about NPR and public broadcasting. They advertise too. They just do it differently. But they do all kinds of ads. Portions of All Things Consider are made possible by a grant from the Ford Foundation. Ford, get your fiesta today. I mean, they do advertising. They do it all. They do advertising. They do donor campaigns, fundraising, buy tote bags, and then they get government assistance. It's wrong. It's wrong. And again, prove me wrong. Tell me why you think one penny of taxpayer money should go to public broadcasting. I mean, I mean it. Theresa, keep a line open. I'll put you to the top of the line. I want to hear an argument made for taxpayer funding of NPR or PBS. I'm not trying to be a provocateur. I want you to tell me why in the world we would pay with all that we're up against, trying to get the wall built, trying to continue to enforce border security, trying to assist our veterans. Give cops a living wage, firefighters, inflation, grocery prices, mortgages, rents, gas prices. With all that we've got in front of us, please make the argument that you think a portion of your taxes should go towards public broadcasting. 800-655-MIKE. And again, we're going to hold a line for you. I want you to make the argument. And I promise, let's have a good faith conversation about why you think any of us should fund public broadcasting. Makes no sense. Joseph is in Pennsylvania. 800-655-MIKE is our number, by the way. 800-655-6453. Joseph, how are you doing today?
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I'm doing fine. Good. You're hitting the nail right on the head, but PBS and NPR? Yeah, right. They're just the tip of the iceberg, which you started listing the ones that need the money, and those two, I don't know how or why taxes are going to them, like you said, but There's a bigger one. I mean, like I said, they're the tip of the iceberg. Now, I have a feeling this is going to set off fireworks. But there are other things going on, like with the space station and other stuff that we're spending billions and trillions of dollars on. that are getting us nowhere.
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Well, I mean, this is the whole point of Doge, Joseph. The whole point of a Department of Government Efficiency is going line by line, page by page, at what taxpayers are funding. And some of it is painful. Look, it's kind of painful for me. I love the arts. I also hate the thought of poor people in other countries losing vaccines. I saw that last night. I think the New York Times reported that there's some far-reaching country that is going to have U.S. taxpayer funding for vaccines taken away. I don't like that. I hate that. That's why we do things like the Food for the Poor campaign and ask you because that's the kind of thing that they provide. But it comes down to what we're going to spend. Can you make an argument intellectually, not with your heart, because I don't want anybody to die. I don't want anybody to be sick. I want to help. Look, we all want to make the world a better place. But explain devoting a portion of the federal budget to providing vaccines for a country on the other side of the world? Do we do it because we're nice guys, we're good people? Okay. Then support a program like Food for the Poor that provides food and vaccines and medical supplies and clothing to poor people on the other side of the world. But taxpayer dollars? Okay. Make the case. I don't quite understand it. And maybe I'm being hard-hearted, and I don't want to do that. I don't want to be cruel. I have that expression, the cruelty is the point, on my brain. I don't want us to be cruel. I want us to be good and honorable and kind. But there's a limit to how kind the United States taxpayer coffers can be. Charles is in Jacksonville, Florida, going to make the case for funding PBS or NPR with our taxpayer dollars. Thanks a lot for joining us today, Charles. How's it going?
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How are you doing, sir? I'm good. I don't care about the NPR, but some of the shows on PBS I do watch, and I was just concerned maybe if the funding goes away, they won't put them on anymore. But do you think they could... fund themselves for the certain shows?
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Well, of course they could. They'd have to. But I mean, let me just analyze what you just said, and I'm not trying to pick on you, but because you like a show on PBS, you want taxpayers who may not like that show to pay for it?
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No, I'm not saying taxpayers. I'm just saying if the funding goes away, those shows will not be on anymore.
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Well, that's right. So you're saying the taxpayers could fund it so that your favorite show on PBS doesn't go away. I mean, I like reruns of... I'm kind of caught in the middle of that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, think about it. You've got to put it in that perspective. There's a lot of shows I like. I'm not going to expect taxpayers to like it. I like The Sopranos. You think taxpayers should fund HBO or Max? Always remember that... Lesson I learned years ago when The Sopranos was a big hit and I said on the air how much I love The Sopranos, a little old lady went out and got cable. She didn't have cable. She got cable and subscribed to HBO just so she could watch The Sopranos because her favorite talk show host loved The Sopranos and she wanted to see the series about a church choir. The Sopranos is most definitely not about a church choir. Now, again, there's a great example. That poor lady probably slumped over when she heard the language and the violence and the story about Tony Soprano and his family. I like Sopranos. She probably certainly didn't like it because she did call in. She said, what is this show about murder and death? I thought it was about a church choir. All right. Now, I'm supposed to expect her to pay a portion of her hard-earned dollars to the Sopranos so it doesn't go away? It doesn't work that way. 16 before the hour portions of our show. Look, this is all about entrepreneurship. This is about making America work. There's a big event coming up May 1st and 2nd. Job Creators Network, they're having their annual gala. And I'm going to be the emcee. It's the annual Freedom Fighters Summit. We'll spend a couple of days discussing pressing issues facing our nation. And look, if you're an entrepreneur, if you own a business, you've got to be here. Because you'll hear from policy minds like Grover Nordquist, Stephen Moore, Kellyanne Conway, Governor Junkin, Kemp. members of the president's cabinet, members of Congress. I'll be there along with other media folks like Trish Regan, Sarah Carter, Hugh Hewitt, Bill Bennett, just added to the roster. Great entertainment, too. Saturday Night Live's Rob Schneider will perform. Lee Greenwood's going to sing. Now, look, I've got an offer for you. And incidentally, best part of all, it's in Savannah, Georgia, one of the most beautiful cities in the world, where you'll have a chance to go golfing, sightseeing. You could tour Savannah to reserve your spot for this one-of-a-kind private event Go to jcn2025summit.com. Remember that website, jcn2025summit.com. If you use the promo code Salem, you'll get a great discount. When you buy one ticket, you'll get the second ticket for 50% off. Limited number of tickets available, only about 150. So go to jcn2025summit.com. Portions of your ticket are tax deductible and support Job Creators Network Foundation. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off, like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Mike Gallagher.
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Now, look, I know this clip has made the rounds. It's a little bit like the young lady on the New York City subway who face planted trying to... steal the red MAGA hat off a guy riding the subway. We ought to do an experiment. Somebody ought to get bold and brave. Who can we throw out there into the world? Christian? It's got to be Christian. I think we've got to have Christian do it. I think Christian should go ride the subway in New York City with a red MAGA hat on. And Eric could take the video. In fact, let me ask these guys if they're willing to do that. Let me put that challenge out there. Gosh, when I'm in a weird mood like this, hold on for your lives. But I am. I'm in a good mood. I've got a lot of stuff going on, a lot of great stuff happening. I'm feeling better than I've felt in a long time. I had allergies, too, this week. Did you notice? Did you hear my voice? I was a little gravelly. Man, I was with Peg and Joey in South Carolina, and we walked the, pardon my language, the damn dogs. Walking those dogs. Walking those two beautiful cocker spaniels is an adventure because they're not exactly from the Martha Stewart school of dog behavior. They're wonderful. Jesse, these dogs are so cool. Simon, they're two of the most beautiful. And Peg and Joey are dog people. Simon... I hope they don't get mad at me talking about this, but is a special needs dog. Simon has some emotional stuff going on. And they have spent a lot of time and money trying to figure out how to try to help Simon. And they look at it, look, Simon's a gift to them. And Simon is a blessing. But Simon will go on, he's like autistic sometimes. They're hard to describe. I've never seen a dog do this. All of a sudden, Simon will go into the corner, stare at the corner, and start growling for five minutes and barking at the corner, just staring. It's almost like Simon's seeing ghosts. I don't want to scare Peg, but that's what it almost feels like. And I've seen these meltdowns. Peggy calls them the meltdowns. And Simon has meltdowns. Beautiful black cocker spaniel. Jesse is like a coffee-colored, caramel-colored cocker, and they're the sweetest dogs in the world, and they are the Hudson's babies. So we went for a walk. Peggy said, let's go for a walk. Well, the wind was blowing and the wind was blowing. It was a windy day at Lake Kiwi over the weekend. And I knew it. I knew it was going to happen. I thought, crap. And sure enough, I felt it by Monday. The allergies kicked in. Whenever I get a bunch of wind like that, I start getting sick from the allergies. And you ought to see my allergy regimen. Holy moly. I got nasal sprays. I got Zyrtec. I've got Singular every day for my life. Anyway, I digress. I'm in a good mood. I'm in a weird mood. Eric and Kristen, what would you guys think after the video of the woman? I've seen it on Fox a million times. Kristen, have you seen this video? This lady starts yelling at a guy who's got a MAGA hat on on the subway. Now, first of all, what in the heck is she doing caring about what a guy wears on his head? But, Kristen, did you see that video of her faceplanting? Yes, I did. I mean, did you see it? Go ahead.
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Did you see the version with the chariots of fire music?
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Do we have video of Christian, guys?
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Hold on. Sorry.
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Can you bring yourself up? There you go.
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I need to keep doing my day job. I'm sorry about that.
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Yeah, and they did the chariots of fire because she's running after him, right?
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Yeah, yeah, and she just face plants, and then there's all the edits of her sliding up through the skyline. It's hilarious.
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It's hysterical, and she falls right on her face. What is she doing trying to change? So would you be willing? I'll bet you'd be willing to ride the subways with a MAGA hat on.
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Well, if your audience could be as generous to the GoFundMe after I get some hospital bills as they are the food for the poor, maybe we can make it happen, America.
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That would be a definite workers' comp claim.
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You might have Phil Boyce calling you real quick.
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Pivot over to Eric, and let me find out from Eric if he'd be willing to be the cameraman. And Eric, I mean, because I think that might be a good project. You're the cameraman and the sound man. Yeah. And you film Christian on a New York City subway with his MAGA hat on. What do you think?
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I think that I would not want to be either Daniel Penny or Jordan Neely in this situation. I want to keep my head down and not look at anyone on the subway. I do not need to get into fights on the subway because I won't be here for very long. I'll either be in jail or you'll be mourning me.
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Well, and the dirty little secret about you is you're like beyond a black belt, right?
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Yes.
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What's beyond a black belt? A purple belt?
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No, I'm a second-degree black belt.
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A gold belt? What are you? Bronze belt?
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I have many belts.
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All right. But you're a second-degree black belt?
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Yes.
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Wow. Yeah. That's very impressive.
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That doesn't mean I want to go out and fight people. It really, really doesn't. In fact, that's worse. I mean, I'll go to jail right away.
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All right. So I'll take that as both a tepid maybe from you and from Christian about running around on the subways with a MAGA hat on. But this wasn't tepid. I've got to play the exchange between – do we play Brandon Gill? I'm losing track. Do we do that this half hour? Of course, I love this, too. Here's Seth in Michigan saying, we've got to move on from the Signal League. Well, I'm moving. How can I move on when you're calling me telling me to move on? What do you want me to do? You want me to take your call to say let's move on from what you don't want to move on from? These are the challenges I have. This is what I'm up against. This is what I'm up against. 800-655-MIKE. John in Pittsburgh, quickly, let's talk a little bit about PBS, NPR, and whether taxpayers should fund it. Because Trump is right. We need to defund NPR, PBS. That doesn't mean they go away. Just let them figure out how to pay for it. Hey, John.
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Hey, Mike. Thanks for taking my call. You bet. Hey, I just wanted to let you know, me and my wife, we're regular contributors to our local PBS station. Pittsburgh station, they do a lot of cooking shows on there. But I got to a point about 10 years ago where I was really questioning where the money was and where it was going. And I looked up the CEO or the president of our local organization. He was making $209,000 a year. How much? $209,000 a year. Okay. And the vice president was making $184,000 a year. I'd like to know what the lady, did you see the grilling that Brendan Gill gave the head of NPR yesterday? Yes, and I heard it this morning on your show, yes. I mean, I'd like to know what she makes. Tracy, she's she's probably in the millions. And that's the problem. I mean, even with the home show that you were talking about. Right. They get all kinds of money from Home Depot and the other people that support that show. None of the money that's given to them from the government runs that show.
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Right.
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It's all the donations they get from Home Depot because the gentlemen on there, they only use Home Depot buckets and tools and everything. So it's a big promotion for Home Depot.
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For Home Depot, and that's okay. We like doing that kind of stuff. That's called synergy. That's called partnerships, branding, advertising. But remember... NPR and PBS, they do it too. Check out Congressman Pat Fallon, also a congressman from Texas, grilling the NPR CEO about the way NPR covered the Hunter Biden laptop story.
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Ms. Maher, I'm sure you're aware that Hunter Biden had a laptop.
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I am, sir, yes. Okay.
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And there were many stories written about said laptop.
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Yes, sir.
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And in 2020, unfortunately, NPR's managing editor for news refused to cover the story and he branded it a, quote, waste of time. Not a real story and a distraction. And instead, unfortunately, of NPR investigating, they ran a puff piece that led with experts say attack on Hunter Biden addiction deepens stigma for millions. It's unfortunate that NPR ignored the Hunter Biden laptop story, but y'all did talk quite a bit about the debunked Russia collusion. Do you know how many times NPR interviewed Adam Schiff?
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Congressman, I would love to say that we actually believe we made a mistake on the Hunter Biden laptop story.
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And I appreciate that. Thank you. How many times did y'all interview Adam Schiff about the Russia collusion?
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I'm sorry. Sorry, I don't have that number.
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It was 25 times. You know how many times NPR interviewed chairman of this committee, Oversight Committee, Jamie Comer, about the Biden impeachment inquiry for the Hunter Biden tax evasion and illicit business dealings of the Biden family? I'm sorry, sir. I don't know. I believe that's zero. So it's 25 to zero. Ms. Kerger, you're aware there's a political spectrum. It goes all the way from the far right to the far left and everywhere in between. Would it trouble you to hear that for six months there was an analysis done on PBS's NewsHour from June to November of 2023? where they found that far right was that term was used 162 times and far left was only used six times do you find that troubling i i don't know the study that you're referring to and i'd love i'd be very interested in seeing it and understanding how they
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came up with those numbers.
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Media Research Center did a six-month analysis, and it's not how you find it. You say far right, it's terms.
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I mean, this went on all day long. It was amazing. And again, it comes down to a real simple thing. There's an audience for NPR. There's an audience for PBS. No problem. There's no stomach for taxpayers funding any of it whatsoever. And again, I've been asking all day, prove me wrong. 800-655-MIKE. Spring is here, and my pillow is ready to meet the moment with the Spring Sheet Sale. Got to be careful with the way I say that. The Spring Sheet Sale. Say that three times fast. You know the Giza Dream Sheets that I've been telling you about? These and the percale sheets, holy cow, check out this offer. Just in time for spring, you can get your very own set of Queen Giza Dream bed sheets from MyPillow. You'll save 50% or more. You can get the queen size. Queen-sized Giza Dream or percale bed sheets for as low as $29.98 with the promo code MikeG. That's an extraordinary offer. And when you go to the website, check out the pillows, the slippers, the doggy beds, the loungewear. and more. MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. Click on that box, and then with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Mike Gallagher. I've got so much going on right now in terms of my stupid life. I've got something going on. Well, I'll tell you what it is. I've got the roof of my condo in the hallway has little faint spots, like about four inches in diameter. There's two of them. And they're near the HVAC unit. And I just had the ceiling painted like six months ago. And I've got some people coming to the condo this weekend, and I want it to look nice. You can't find a painter in Florida. You just can't. Because the problem is, this is evidently, these are spots that are from condensation. There's no leak. There's never been a leak in that roof. The building came in, the building manager, no, no, there's no leak. These are just spots. I mean, it's bleeding through the white ceiling paint. So in order to stop that, you've got to get like a primer. First, you've got to spray on the primer. It's got to dry. Then you've got to do it again, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you repaint it. Well, I don't know how to do any of that. I'm so bad. I'm not entirely sure which end of the brush you hold when you paint. Do you hold the feathery part? I think you do. And then you paint with the wooden part. And so I don't know what I'm doing. And I need a painter. I went to Sherwin-Williams. The guy just laughed. He said, there's no painters. He said, are you kidding me? After the hurricane? There's nothing. There's no way. So if we have a painter, maybe you call me or text me or email me and give me your number so we'll FaceTime. And you can show me when I get my butt up on a ladder and try to do this. Because I have no idea. I'm sure I'll ruin this ceiling. And the worst part is it's a hallway that's all part of the living room and there's no break. So I'm afraid I'm going to discolor the hallway paint and it's all going to look different and look terrible. It's going to turn into a house of horrors. I'm going to walk in. I'm going to see those spots. And every time I walk in there, I cringe. It looks so bad. And I hate stuff like that. But because of the hurricanes... There are zero painters that have any availability, especially for a small job like that. I told the Sherwin-Williams guy, I said, there's nobody? I said, I'll be generous. Nope, nobody available. Speaking of hurricanes and property damage, did you hear how many people, how many homes have gotten permits to to rebuild their homes after the destruction from the wildfires in Southern California. Now, obviously, thousands of people lost their homes. Thousands of people lost their property. Terrible damage. And the city of Los Angeles insists that they've got to issue all of these onerous permits you've got to go through miles of government tape to rebuild your own home. You want to know to date how many permits have been issued from the wildfires. In fact, let me give you, let's do a little quiz. If you don't know and you want to guess, call me. But you've got to not know the answer. 800-655-MIKE. We all saw the coverage of the devastating wildfires in California, right? We all saw that. There is reporting now, and don't Google it and call me. Just be honest and call me. It's been over two months now since the deadly Palisades fire. Guess how many permits have been issued so far to rebuild? or to fix the problem. Give me a call if you don't know the answer, and give me a guess. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Portions of our show, while I'm waiting for your calls, I want to remind you about our sponsor, Dean Owen, CPA. This guy and I have been working a lot together in the last few weeks. I am overwhelmed by his expertise, his knowledge, his strategy, Dean and his team specialize in helping you and your business or just families reduce their tax burden and build financial and tax plans that are aligned with your goals and your values. You know, when you work with somebody like a CPA or a financial planner, you want somebody who represents your values, right? Why work with somebody who doesn't share your values? Well, Dean does. He's a combat vet. He's a very, very trusted voice in this space. And I'm just going to make it clear to you, my CPA can be your CPA. Call Dean today, 270-554-0720. Write that number down, 270-554-0720. That's 270-554-0720. Or you can visit owencpa.com, owencpa.com. Let's take a guess. Let me give Larry in North Carolina a chance to take a guess. All right, Larry, it's been two months since the devastating wildfires, all the loss of property, the terrible destruction of these fires. Guess how many permits the city of Los Angeles has issued to date?
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Thank you, Blair.
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You're very kind. Anyway, I'm going to say 38.
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That's a good guess. That's not a terrible guess because that's low. But, you know, maybe with bureaucracy and what Democrats do with tying everybody up. All right, 38.
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Okay, good deal.
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Hey, have a good day, Mike. You too. Thank you. Well, I was going to give you... Okay, thank you very much for your kind words, and I appreciate your support very much. Nope, not 38. Ready for this? Four. Four. They have issued four permits. People in Los Angeles cannot get through the red tape. It's a disaster. It is a nightmare. And people are struggling. And this is what Democrat leadership gives you. Real simple. This is what, when Trump talks about deregulation, this is what he means. When we talk about deregulating, this is what is at stake. I was in a neighborhood yesterday looking at a condo and a guy walked by with a FEMA jacket on. And I looked at him and I thought, okay, what are you guys doing to help people? And I know FEMA, there's a lot of good people. Not everybody in the government is bad. But the bureaucracy of Democrat-led communities is strangling people. Ordinary, hardworking, taxpaying Americans. Four, four permits were issued so far, according to National Review. Check it. Look it up. Look it up. People are giving me advice I should go to Thumbtack. So that's good. I'll go to Thumbtack and invite Jeffrey Dahmer to come in and paint my ceiling. He'll be carrying my head around in a bowling bag. after he paints my ceiling. That's all I need. I'll get some guy, some Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris-loving painter. I'll go online and find a nutcase to paint my ceiling. He'll put my skin on his lampshades. I mean, that'll be the end of me. Don't forget the Food for the Poor campaign, our final day tomorrow, and you're just astounding. About $120,000, $425,000, $40,000 goal. A few times a year we come to you and humbly ask you to help those in need, and you did it in a big way. I will always be grateful to the generous, giving, loving people who support this show and support our campaigns. Food for the Poor is a beautiful Christian ministry. You can go to MikeOnline.com to make a donation, whatever you can afford. Thank you. Don't forget, $1,000 or more tax-deductible donation. I'll call you personally to thank you, and we'll have a nice chat, and we'll solve all the world's problems together. MikeOnline.com to donate. Thanks for being a part of our day, and we're glad to have been a part of yours. Let's do it again tomorrow. Have a great Thursday. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
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In this episode, dive into the fascinating world of Florida Man as we recount the amusing yet chaotic tales of Christopher Marlowe and his clown escapades with the Palm Bay Police. Move on to the story of a Florida man's ill-fated attempt at target practice after being inspired by a military movie. Are these tales stranger than fiction, or just another day in the Sunshine State? We delve into how these quirky stories shape our view of Florida, filled with both humor and lesson.
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This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's got to stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out. And you can learn more by following at What's Up With Hate.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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This guy is 40 years old. I'm sorry. He's 40 years old. This guy is supposed to be 40 years old.
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He's 40 years over 20?
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Dude, Kane and I are freaking out over this. So a Florida man dressed up as a clown was taken down. I'm going to get through it. Florida man dressed as a clown was taken down by officers for allegedly trespassing. And there's footage. It was Palm Bay. 40-year-old Christopher Marlowe was charged with trespassing after a warning. And he clashed with police officers. This was just the other day at a shopping plaza. And they said that he'd already been banned from the plaza prior to the incident. They were going to get him for blanket trespass. He was yelling to himself, loitering, and, quote, serving no purpose on the property. He was described as aggressive, and he said, quote, I'm not trespassed. I'm going to come back. Blank, y'all. Oh, look at that. Yeah, and the Palm Bay Police Department shared a compilation of the body camera footage with circus music, and it showed his arrest. And he's there. Now, it says clown, but Kane clearly... Is it? That looks like a Ronald McDonald outfit.
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It does.
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He balled up his fist and they said took a bladed stance and was challenging them to fight him. They go, you look like a clown, said one of the arresting officers. And he says, quote, I am a clown. Okay.
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I guess his name's not happy.
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No, his name isn't. And then he clearly was not going to comply when they asked for him to get his mug shot, standing there with his mouth gaping open with his teeths.
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It's generous to make it plural.
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Yeah, it's very generous. Oh, my gosh. All right. All right. I got to move on. So we also have a Florida. Oh, I got the meth. We had the meth underwear one already. This Florida man was accused of firing his rifle for target practice at his apartment after watching a military movie. Christopher Gaffney was accused 30 years old. He fired a rifle outside of his apartment complex. Apparently, there were kids playing in the yard. Not his kids, just some kids. He's facing charges. Apparently he was drunk. So they're saying that he was using it under the influence and he is currently in jail. He says, I was watching a military movie and it made him want to get out and make a makeshift target out of a tree and all this. And he made up, fashioned up a target that he missed multiple times. He didn't hit anything. Not even in the target, thankfully. So, yeah, he's got in trouble for that. Our partners that help make the program possible, our friends at Caltech, the PR57 Rotary Barrel Pistol, chambered in 5.7, one of the latest offerings from our friends over at Caltech. And this is incredibly innovative because it's super light and super thin. It's like 40% lighter than the next lightest 5.7 that's out there. Two different ways they achieved this, the innovative rotary barrel, making it the lightest 5.7, on the market, and it has a unique top-loading design that replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips for slimmer carrier profiles in a 20-plus-1 capacity. Built to perform, engineered for simplicity and reliability, quickest and easiest field strip available. And this is something you actually can carry because it's so light and thin. Also, everybody can afford it. MSRP. It's only $399. So get the first of its kind, Kel-Tec PR57 Rotary Barrel Pistol Chambered in 5.7. Visit Kel-TecWeapons.com to learn more. Innovation Performance, Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C, Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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I was watching this hearing, just back and forth, between the head of NPR, which is a propaganda entity, let's be real about it, and the head of NPR, Catherine Maher, who apparently, this is interesting, is described as also being chair of the board of directors at the Signal Foundation.
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Where have I heard that before?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, the Signal Foundation is an open source private technology. That's what it is. And it's the app that, interestingly enough, featured in the story this week came out. Do you believe in coincidences as it relates to anything regarding politics? Because I don't, there is no such thing as a coincidence in politics. If you're in DC and you're like, huh, this seems like a coincidence. That's the equivalent of Neo seeing the cat, the same cat, which I, by the way, I thought that was a horrible way to do deja vu. That's not what deja vu was. And then my only criticism about the first matrix is, Remember when he had deja vu and he saw the same cat? It's like that's the feeling. When things become too just coincidental in politics or anything related to D.C., anything, that is a red sign. That's a red flag. And she has been president of NPR for about a year now. She took over last year. And she's chair of the board of the Signal Foundation. I don't think that she stepped down. I mean, not at least that I've seen. So that seems to be problematic. She apparently also was an appointed member of the U.S. Department of State's Foreign Affairs Policy Board, where she advises Secretary of State on tech policy. Here's why I bring this up. She's one of those super woke scolds, right? Big time woke scold. According to her own tweets. It's not like we're making this up about her just because she's at NPR. I mean, this is like according to her own actual tweets. So she's this big woke scold. And she was before a House subcommittee yesterday testifying about this. You know, it's an ongoing examination in the wake of the U.S. aid money and the waste, fraud and abuse. And she was testifying, answering questions from members of Congress. And it was really interesting because, you know, members of Congress are going to do their due diligence on her. And they're going to have looked at her tweets. They're going to have looked or her posts on X rather. They're going to have looked at all this. So I don't know why you would obfuscate or deflect or, you know, whatever it is. So she is totally caught off guard. She's answering these questions in this subcommittee hearing. And this is after she had, you know, already come asking for more taxpayer dollars, etc. And she got caught in a web of her own insanity. This is and I'm glad to see him doing this because I previously did not like the stunt with the thing, the hundred dollar bill, whatever. And I'm like, oh, we got to get serious about all this stuff. This is exactly, I think, what Brendan Gill should be doing. He's a congressman from Texas, from my area. And it was his questioning. And this was really I thought this was really good for a number of reasons. Let me set this up. I think he's a millennial, but he has this borrowed Gen Z cynicism that you can only have gotten from being associated with Gen X. You know what I mean? There's this Gen X cynicism and a Gen Z delivery that I thought goes over really well here. It made me think of the ramen noodle guy. Remember the guy who was munching just legit a package of ramen noodles and he was correcting, what's his face, Cuomo? Yeah. I got those vibes from this. Everybody has their own niche to fill and they have their own style. And I think if Gil keeps doing this because he's a freshman congressman, I think if he keeps doing this, this is going to be a completely empty space that not many people can occupy. So he's there in the hearing. And I didn't pay too much attention to the stack of papers that he had literally right at his right side until he lifted them up. Now, it's a little long, but it's actually hysterical. The nuance in his voice and then the way he kind of like shrugs his eyebrows when he's questioning her. It's just comical. It is hysterical. You need to watch this. Listen to how this exchange goes down.
SPEAKER 07 :
Ms. Marr, I want to start with you. Just generally, would you say you generally agree or disagree with the following statement? The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles?
SPEAKER 04 :
I would not say that.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's good to hear. It's interesting because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your public statement, is deeply infused with economic and cultural Marxism. Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?
SPEAKER 04 :
I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.
SPEAKER 07 :
It has evolved. Why did you tweet that?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't be able to say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't believe that, sir.
SPEAKER 07 :
You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time, apparently, The Case for Reparations.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't think I've ever read that book, sir.
SPEAKER 07 :
You tweeted about it. You said you took a day off to fully read the case for reparations. You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.
SPEAKER 04 :
I apologize. I don't recall that I did. Okay. I have no doubt that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races? I do not. You don't? You tweeted something to that effect. You said, I grew up feeling superior. Ha, how white of me. Why did you tweet that?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.
SPEAKER 07 :
It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I was just reflecting on my own experiences.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you think that white people should pay reparations?
SPEAKER 04 :
I have never said that, sir.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, you did. In January 2020, you tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, yes, America, yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt, yes, reparations, yes, on this day.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir. What kind of reparations was it a reference to? I think that's just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.
SPEAKER 02 :
My favorite part of this whole thing, there's two. The first one is he goes, he's holding up the paper and he goes, yes, you did. And then when he looks right at her and he raises his eyebrows and he's like, so you think that people should pay? It was hysterical. Why do I like this so much? I thought about this. Because normally, and I'm going to get, yes, I'm going to get to the thing where he was, you know, the meat and potatoes, but he's actually questioning the NPR CEO or president. There's a reason why I like this so much. And I think that this stands out to me because it's a different type of GOP. We have, and I'm going to deep dive with you here for a second, so hold on with me. For the past eight years, and I'm not saying I don't like this style, but we've had this for the past eight years, a very confrontational, in-your-face, brawler type of messaging and response. And I get it because I'm one of the people who's been doing it since 2008, before then, really. So I get it. I think that there's a time for that, but I also think that many Republicans have forgotten that. how to play that. There's a time for it, and many Republicans have forgotten that there is a time for it, that you just do it all the time. And with this attention economy clickbait culture, that's rewarded. The more bombastic, and I'm not saying it's bad, but sometimes after a while, it seems performative. You know what I mean? It seems performative. It seems as though You're doing it for the purpose of theatrics rather than genuine out. I mean, yes, you're outraged. But to that degree, I don't know. And not everybody in D.C. is a good enough actor. And I think that's why this stood out to me so much. Because it was so effective without trying to be. There was not a, you know, perfectly polished, focused group soundbite that Gil delivered. And a lot of these lawmakers, they have their, you know, their comebacks ready to go and they got the cameras ready and they know exactly they're going to pull this for some B-roll footage for a campaign ad. They got it already. I didn't get that with this. It was very organic. And there was a sense it almost met the measure of smarminess, but it didn't. He was respectful, but very cynical. It was one of those where, I mean, he would moot for the purpose of moving on. He'd go, okay. And then he would move on and ask the next thing. But it was the tone and the, I mean, he was so, he was well prepared. And I mean, him holding up that piece of paper was just like that ramen noodle dude, man. Yes, you did. Yeah, you did. And he just shows her. It was organic. And that made it hysterical. There is I think this is what Republicans need to develop more because you have people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, very theatrical. Nancy Grace, very performative. I'm not knocking them. I'm just saying that's what that's. They're very, very performative. Performative outrage. This here, what we see with Gil is. Organic and almost like a Gen X brand of organic cynicism. And it plays so well. It's like Arrested Development meets Schitt's Creek. Right? I think that's why I like it so much. Because he's not trying to like, well, yeah, well, what? He's not trying to do that. He's just a cynic. And he's just sitting there like, yeah, you did. And, you know, say, will you believe reparations? He's got like this tenor-like grit in his voice. It's very Gen X, but Gen Z delivery. Don't you agree, Cain? Isn't that, I think that's why it works so well. And do you agree with my point about I think we're getting tired of the over-performative outrage theater?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Because all we've seen is Democrats do is turn the volume up on that. And it clearly is a turnoff to most of the country.
SPEAKER 02 :
And Republicans respond by also turning up the volume. And then nobody gets any – you learned more about this woman in those two minutes and six seconds. Yeah. With that line of questioning, because he allowed her to talk, he wasn't trying to like, but also you knew exactly who was leading whom here. There's no question. I think Republicans need to adopt more of this. But I also think that I can't see Marjorie Taylor Greene doing this.
SPEAKER 11 :
And not an ounce of hyperbole.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, no hyperbole at all. That's right.
SPEAKER 11 :
All the Democrats use.
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And some Republicans, that's why I'm like, I want to see more of this because that was hysterical. Yeah, you did. That's hysterical. And I don't know why that's not like a meme because it's funny. It was funny. I watched it like three times. It was hysterical. Yes, you did. Like, do you think white people should pay reparations? I never said that. Yeah. And he holds out. Yeah, you did. It's just funny. Folks who help make it possible. It's our partners over at All Family Pharmacy, a great website. They've come and clutched for me many, many of times. And they also have all of the antibiotics and medicines that especially those that... don't know some ideologies within our government tried to make it to where you couldn't access them they've got the ivermectin the hydroxychloroquine they have over 200 medications all of it antibiotics everything that you need you strep throat bronchi whatever you got they've got medicine they've got the medication for it they came in clutch for me i told you over the thanksgiving holiday and i had some stuff overnighted which they do most of the shipping takes place in just two to four days But you can do overnight in a pinch. Your health is always within reach and everything is super affordable. No insurance, no problem. They have straightforward pricing. The shipping's fast and easy. Online ordering fast and easy. And it's one of the reasons why I love All Family Pharmacy. The other one is that all their stuff is made in the USA. All their precursors for these antibiotics, all their antibiotics, all of it is made here in the USA. It's not outsourced from places like India or China. You can visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and get 10% off using promo code Dana10. Be prepared. Protect yourself and your family today. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10 to save 10%.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 02 :
Variety reports that the first footage, I guess the trailer, it's the first trailer that they came out with has been released. They're still going to open that in theaters. This is after Alec Baldwin shot and killed Helena Hutchins, although he insisted a ghost pulled the trigger, apparently. And it's been released, and they're going to go, I wonder if that's going to feature in their family's reality show. where she pretends to be Spanish more than life. I have zero courtesy for them or for it. It's just horrific. This is unbelievable. I saw this headline this morning. A heartless dad crashed. This is actually a weird story because I've never heard of a dad doing this. A heartless dad crashed at 100 miles per hour and then fled the scene, leaving his injured wife and kids behind. And it happened in Texas near Houston. It was a Chevy Avalanche that he was driving, cut the speeding car off while turning into a gas station. And he cut somebody off and they had an accident. And the Ford shot into the air. It was a family. And a Ford Expedition, that's the car that the dad was driving. One of the children, an eight-year-old girl, was ejected upon impact. The Chevy ended up in the guardrail. The father ran from his family without hesitation, according to the Houston Police Department. He sprinted off, jumped into another car and then drove him away from the horror crash. They said he ran over the babies. He jumped over the babies, the mom and everywhere, everybody. According to the driver of the Chevy, he said the mom was bleeding everywhere. He said, I had no idea what was going through his mind at the time. or why he felt like he needed to flee. The family was rushed to nearby hospitals. They're expected to survive. Two of the three victims are in stable but critical condition. I hope the woman's seen a divorce lawyer. And yeah, I would absolutely straight up leave a man over that. I don't, you're damn right I would. Oh boy. I bet, what's weird is I never heard a dad doing this before. I have never heard a story it's always the dad that like pulls the mom out of the wreckage that's what's and I literally we've actually read stories like that that's why this is so weird to me what did he like I don't know was it planned I don't know I want to oh I'm trying not to be like mystery science theater murder mystery with us but I really kind of want to be Oh boy. You guys saw this video. The woman at our precious little airport. Our little airport which they've remodeled and it's all clean. Until this woman stripped naked and storms through Terminal D. Terminal D is like one of the craziest. It's an international terminal. So it's a big crazy terminal. Because everybody, there's all the international flights. It's bigger than the others. It's crazier than the others. She only had a plastic water bottle and she was screaming at nobody. And then she screamed, I speak all languages. But naked. And they did actually detain her. It just, gosh, she wasn't a chunky. She wasn't a chunk one. Normally they are. She wasn't. So stick with us. We've got more in store. I don't know of any film now that's been out lately that I'm really excited to see. Like now you stream it. You don't rent it. You just stream it. Further, I don't even hardly go to the theater anymore. And I love good films, but so much of it is garbage because it's just unimaginative. It's derivative. It's just remakings of something else that was a remake of something else that was also a remake. It's just, it's insane. And I wanted to come back because there are further developments with this whole thing with the Snow White. So keep this in mind. When Snow White came out, When that film first came out, I read that it was incredibly popular. Everybody wanted to see it. It was like their most, Disney's, their most iconic legacy title, I think was how it was described. And they merged like crazy off of it. And think about it. You had the Cinderella, and they started doing all these other remakes, especially the live action remakes, which never translate well. And I don't know what it is, but Disney has a difficulty in picking actresses that can't shut the hell up. Like the chick, Hermione from Harry Potter, who was Beauty from Beauty and the Beast. I'm one of those people that think if you're going to be casting in roles like that, you need to live up to the hype. I mean, she's pretty, but is she like Beauty from Beauty and the Beast? No. You're telling me that there's no, but they want a name, right? Although I don't think that maybe they're going to have to reevaluate it. I just think that they should maybe, if your name is Beauty and you're a Disney princess, maybe be beautiful. You know what I'm saying? It's not hard to I'm not being mean. Stop it. Stop it. I'm well aware of my own limitations and shortcomings. I'm saying I can also point them out in others. So I just think maybe you'd be beautiful if you're and if you're going to be Snow White. She will not apparently be quiet on social media. And I've seen a lot of debate, this Rachel Zegler girl, with people saying, oh, she's like this 21-year-old girl. You know, it's so mean that the studio executives put her in this position. And then someone commented on the Instagram account of apparently the son of the producer. Of the Snow White producer. Mark Platt is the producer. He's like the exact producer. His son. Jonah Platt. Someone made that exact comment. That I was talking about. On his social media account. And he went off. He said this is what the comment was because Mark Platt was one of that was the dad apparently that flew to New York to talk with Rachel Zegler. The commenter said to Jenna Platt about his dad, quote, your dad flew to New York City to reprimand a young actress. Any words on this? Because that's creepy as hell and uncalled for. People have the right to free speech. No shame on your father. Jonah Platt writes, This is called adult responsibility and accountability and her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want in your private employment without repercussions. Tens of thousands of people worked on that film and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires and at the risk of all of her colleagues and crew and blue collar workers who depend on that movie to be successful. He added, and I thought this was chef's kiss, narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged. He made a good point because a lot of people were coming out and saying, oh, well, Rachel Zegler, who would not... She was the chick who came out and was like, Trump supporter. What did she say? Basically, Trump supporters go to hell, don't see my movie or something like that. I don't even remember what she said, but it was something so stupid and ridiculous. And then she just kept... She was like, vote Kamala. And then she said, free Palestine and all the stupid... Which doesn't exist, so how can you free it? So... And she her behavior, especially over Gaza, this chick who was born again, why are all of these trust fund socialists? They're born rich, like the Jasmine Crockett's, the Rachel Zegler. They all come from money. They grew up with money. That's why they're in the films and the movies and all where they are, because they had all of these opportunities that their mommy and daddy's money bought them. And so she's like so far removed from what's happening in the Middle East. The closest that she came to it was probably a history class she took in school while she was being tutored on set. Let's get real. But they were making her sound like she's like this helpless and it's just this helpless little kid. Right. Which is so far from the truth. If you're 20 and 21 years old, dear heavens, I had my own roof over my own head when I was 21 years old and I didn't grow up in the Great Depression. OK, I was I'm baby Gen X. I was a 90s kid. So I can't stand this spinning that I can't you can't be responsible if you're this you know you're this old and you can't you know you can't you can't do any of this. I find that so that's not an excuse. And also when you're in the position that she's in. You have an agent. You have a manager. You have somebody that's special that looks over your finances. You have goodness. You're obviously your your parents and your family and all of these people around you. When you sign a contract, you have your manager look at it. Your agent. She's got a manager and an agent. So you have all of those people, probably an extra, you know, an attorney, your own attorney, all of these people that are that are advising you on what to do, the decisions to make and also how to act. And this idea that she's just out there floating in the ether with no guidance or direction. And that's what's intimated by this is pretty. It's asinine. So she has a team of people that work with her. When you're signing multimillion dollar contracts to be in movies, you're doing a job. 20 and 21 year olds are not children. They're grown people. Stop infantilizing people as a way to excuse them of their bad behavior. She's just an entitled mouthy brat. And it's starting to look cringe because you can't be a brat anymore when you're 20 or 21. You're a grown ass woman. Stop it. Either be empowered or be a baby, but pick a lane. So now she's feeling the full weight of these consequences of her actions. And, you know, they're and apparently like there's all this stuff leaking out, like the set energy was real bad. And apparently her behavior with regards to Gaza was so bad. Gal Gadot started getting death threats like crazy because Rachel Zegler wouldn't. Apparently, according to what Vanity Fair and everybody else was saying, she wouldn't stop running her mouth. And as a result, endangered her co-star, who's a mother of four. I mean, she also literally just had a baby. So I don't know if you saw that came out. I have that on my sub stack that I sent out to you subscribers. So she, you know, she was getting tons of death threats from what this crazy stuff that her co-star was saying. And that's kind of that's that's how do you she had extra security when she was going out just just preparing and promoting the film. And I don't think a lot of people gave that enough attention. I mean, that's pretty unbelievable. And they were trying to say, oh, well, there's controversy also. And by they, I mean the press. Oh, there's controversy also because of Gal Gadot. There was no controversy because of Gal Gadot. She's Israeli. She's not controversial just because she's Israeli. So I don't know. She just won't stop talking. Audio Sunbite 19. She just won't stop talking.
SPEAKER 08 :
And to everyone who hates when I win, the wind victory came to the Louvre in pieces. What? And people still line up to see her. She's such a bad actress. And I can only hope that despite my flaws, and despite my cracks and my breaks, and there are many of them, that at every premiere and everything I do,
SPEAKER 02 :
People will wait in line to see. They're not, though. No one's literally nobody's there in the theater. So she rented out a whole theater for herself, didn't she? Or was that what I read? Or she probably didn't have to. It was money wasted. Nobody's going to see it.
SPEAKER 11 :
They're all empty.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, nobody's going to see it. She just seems that she's like an avatar for the liberal mentality. And apparently nobody in her life is directing her any different. And that's really a letdown by her management and her agent. When you have Disney executives meeting with you telling you, can you stop promoting Hamas? And yeah, when you're out there saying, you know, free Palestine, that's exactly what you're doing. Palestine's a fake place that doesn't exist. Hamas is a terror group. And the people that voted for Hamas are terrorists, too. If you don't know enough about an issue, we have a vain society that thinks that it doesn't matter if they don't know enough about a particular issue. The world deserves their opinion anyway. We deserve the burden of these dumbasses' opinions. They think it doesn't matter if they don't know. She doesn't know. And think about it. You have Disney executives flying across the country because you're running a mouth about A foreign policy ongoing conflict. And then you are attacking half of the country, half of the country's voters going after and maligning people who voted one way. And she wouldn't take anything down. And then when it was like a half hearted kind of apology, not really an apology. Some are saying, oh, well, you know, you can't you shouldn't cancel this girl. You shouldn't you shouldn't go. This is not about cancellation. Please don't use words that you don't understand, right? Because then we all have to take time out of our day and correct it. This is about accountability. Don't mistake, for the purpose of deflection, accountability with cancelability. They're two entirely different things. You don't get a pass on your stupid actions by screaming, cancel, don't cancel me, as some sort of like inoculation. That's not how this works. If you do something stupid, yeah, you tend to have to reap the consequences of that something stupid. It's not, like I said, difficult. So that's what this is. You're not immune from consequence. And this wasn't about free speech. No one stopped her from saying it. They're just not protecting her from the consequences of her own choices. And that's what a lot of these people that scream about free speech, particularly foreign students who are here, who are acting and out in ways that violate the agreements of their permission to visit no one's stopping anybody from saying anything but there is a consequence to being stupid and demanding that you being protected from the consequence of the stupid thing that you did or said that's not free speech you're just demanding a pass
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In this episode, we delve into the significant arrest of a high-ranking MS-13 leader on the East Coast, a significant victory for law enforcement. We discuss the joint efforts by state and local agencies, the role of the FBI, and the proactive measures taken by the government to safeguard communities. The conversation highlights the leadership shown in these operations and the importance of coordinated efforts to tackle organized crime.
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About 4.30 this morning, the great men and women of law enforcement have been working on this operation for days and days and probably weeks. This morning, early this morning, one of the top leaders of MS-13 was apprehended. He was the leader for the East Coast, one of the top three in the entire country. right here in Virginia, living half an hour outside of Washington, D.C. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador, and he will not be living in our country much longer. He's in custody this morning. One of the top leaders right here near our nation's capital. I just cannot thank Governor Youngkin enough for his leadership in this effort. This has been a joint effort with state and local agencies. FBI Director Patel, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, so that's – I mean, I want Congress to be back in session because, frankly, I'm bored with the news cycle, as I'm kind of sure that you all are as well, unless it has something to do with saving me my money. I've been watching the weeping and gnashing of progressive teeth, talking about everybody getting more violent and more agitated, and none of that's working. We're I and we're going to dive into some of the the moves that POTUS has. We got we got some of the executive orders, especially the one. Let me pull this up that he had just signed. And this was this all just happened. This all just was taking place today. And the left is infuriated. If you're going to. Well. One that he introduced about deportation, and there's also another bill that apparently he actually does support. It might make him friends with Thomas Massey again. Thomas Massey had introduced the dual citizenship bill, meaning if you're a dual citizen, you can't be running for office, which I got to say, I can't believe that's not obvious already. How is that not a thing? How is that already not an issue? I mean, I find that fascinating. So we're going to dive into all of this stuff and just everything that we've got happening. Because it's a weird news week because, like I said, Congress isn't in session, so it's a little odd. And I think that's one of the reasons why you have so much of the fighting that's been happening. From the left, that's getting a lot of attention. Now, one of the things I want to start with this issue, because we came in, we heard from A.G. Pambondi, and she's talking about some of the people that are being apprehended, that are being deported. I can't even believe that we have people that are objecting this. I mean, it's all, you know, Trendo Aragua, MS-13. Hey, guess what? It's the same gangs that we've been talking about for the past, like, nine months. That hasn't changed. Same people. It's like the same. I've been Groundhog Day. So the AG had her presser talking about the deportation of these violent gang members. I just keep wondering how many are actually in the country. What audio soundbite was that? Because I also want to hit... When she was discussing the, this one is the MS, this was Audio Soundbite 6. So she was saying that they also took out, well not took out, took off the street, one of the worst of MS-13. Listen.
SPEAKER 19 :
First reaction is all of our law enforcement officers are safe. That was the number one thing. They're safe. They executed a clean, safe operation and the bad guy's in custody. And thanks to the FBI, we got one of the worst of the worst of MS-13 off the streets this morning.
SPEAKER 22 :
We were able to be out here in force to show the American people to be here in person, that this means a lot to her and the mission. Safety is our primary concern of these communities, and we effectuated that today.
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So then we also had Audio Soundbite 7. Kristi Noem went down to El Salvador. I mean, she's getting the job done while she's dressing up in outfits related to each department. And I'm actually not, I don't care about that as long as she does the job. Audio Soundbite 7, she went down to that infamous prison in El Salvador. Listen.
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Here at CCOT today and visiting this facility. And first of all, I want to thank El Salvador and their president for their partnership with the United States of America to bring our terrorists here and to incarcerate them and have consequences for the violence that they have perpetuated in our communities. I also want everybody to know if you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face. First of all, do not come to our country illegally. You will be removed and you will be prosecuted. But know that this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people.
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I get the videos that she's making. But I think, well, her videos are for the base. I don't really like the videos that they've been making and putting on TV. And I'm sure you've seen some of it where they're like, oh, you got to leave right now. Because those cost millions of dollars. I've seen some of those advertised on Fox. And I know the ad rates for that. That's super pricey. I mean, I'm not saying that you don't. publicize what you're doing but I also think how many border extra border agents could we have paid with this the amount that those ads cost because those ads I mean I saw at least one $60,000 ad on on Fox so I mean that's what I'm saying so I'm just you know I want to make sure that we're spending all of our taxpayer dollars in the most appropriate of ways with all of this and Now, a few other things, because we have this. We also have the president announced tariffs. I have this up at Substack. I wrote this. This piece was one I sent out last night, written by one of our contributors. And the president has announced a 25% pretty wide berth tariff on all auto imports. So it's all automobiles and all auto parts. It does not include the existing two and a half overall tariff on cars, 25 percent on light trucks. So the sweeping tariff, this affects a lot of stuff. And I think that the hope is they are wanting to, you know, obviously it has to do with fentanyl, et cetera, but also you're talking about countries that have no problem penalizing us for simply being the United States of America. So adding this tariff onto it to, to actually have the equality that the left used to talk about. I mean, why is it that everyone else can tariff can, can put these penalties on our goods, but we're, we're told that we are the ones who are upsetting free trade if we do the same thing. So the, uh, It's all expected to kick into effect on April 2nd. Remember, he said he didn't want April 1st because he thought people would be joking. There have been a lot of, I mean, obviously American manufacturing jobs that have disappeared just over the years. Whether or not this is going to be the thing that spurs more onshoring of manufacturing, etc., I'm not sure. However, in Louisiana... Don't forget, they have that huge, who is it, Hyundai's building this, it's almost a $6 billion steel plant in Louisiana. And so that might be, maybe that's something that you could say is a result of it, maybe not, but that's something that's quite interesting. The $5.8 billion steel plant. That's going to be – they had a White House ceremony with the president. Hyundai came in, all their top executives, and they're announcing these plans to build it in Ascension, Paris. And it's going – Paris, excuse me. And it's going to supply the vehicle assembly plants, Hyundai and Kia assembly plants throughout the United States. They say it's going to create up to 1,300 full-time jobs, and it's going to net a lot of economic revenue for southern Louisiana employees. And they they this was all agreed to last year. And they're manufacturing their own steel rather than importing it. And that's going to really help them with not just shipping and logistics, but also a lot of these tariffs as well. So maybe more. I just think we should get more jobs out of that. Thirteen hundred doesn't seem I'm not trying to be picky, but I'm just saying thirteen hundred. It's a good start. But I think we need you know, we need more. It would be great. And I think without having tariffs, you could just have a better incentivization for business. You know, you can't just talk about bringing back manufacturing without having the discussion about incentivizing tariffs. the building of these companies and not i mean we have good grief didn't we come out of some of the highest uh corporate tax rate the highest corporate tax rate i mean higher than even like china which is so bizarre it's the united states of america but um one of the other things in addition to this now this wasn't a part of this e uh this wasn't a part of his eo but he's suggesting on making interest on loans for American-made cars tax-deductible. That would really help out actually Tesla because Tesla's all USA-made, although I don't know how many of their auto parts they actually get from foreign countries, but their stuff is made in the USA. So they – I mean if companies play ball – We'll see how it goes, but I think a lot of people are very hesitant because they haven't seen tax cuts elsewhere. Inflation on certain things is coming down. Some of it you can't flip a switch overnight, and I'm going to say that to some of the Republicans out there as well. You can't just flip a switch and think that it's all going to go away just because Trump's in the White House. A lot of this stuff takes some time to actually implement, and none of it matters if it's not made permanent. If Congress doesn't make anything permanent, then this term was a flash in the pan. Flash in the pan. So, you know, everybody, y'all's congresspeople are in your home districts. I hope you're lighting them up. Really do. I hope you're lighting them up. That's one of the reasons why the news cycle is so weird because none of them are in D.C. right now. So that's something I definitely would consider. Make sure that your will is known. But April 2nd has been dubbed Liberation Day by the administration. So we'll see what happens and how that unfolds. I'm just nervous about some of that. But you can't just do the tariffs to bring companies back. You're also going to have to, like I said, make for a better business environment. And you're also going to have to make sure that we make tax cuts permanent. I feel like we're doing everything possible except giving people a tax break. So, you know, yeah, all these things are good, but I'm going to give a bigger rat's ass when we have permanent taxes for Americans across this country. We're overburdened. The government overspends. And if you are not still ragingly livid over all of the waste that we saw with our tax dollars, with the USAID stuff, then you're doing it wrong. I mean, you should be absolutely enraged. I'm enraged. I'm absolutely enraged over it. And then we're in tax season again. You kidding me? Of course, for some of us, it's tax season every quarter. But we're coming up for tax season again. I mean, it's just asinine. So where's the relief at? I think we would like to see and we deserve some relief. We have headlines on the way as we roll towards the bottom of this first hour. And we're going to go through all this. Also, what to expect when Congress comes back. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So the Rust movie, they're actually apparently coming out with that because nobody has any shame anymore. Variety reports that the first footage, I guess the trailer, it's the first trailer that they came out with has been released. They're still going to open that in theaters. This is after Alec Baldwin shot and killed Elena Hutchins, although he insisted a ghost pulled the trigger, apparently. And it's been released. And they're going to go. I wonder if that's going to feature in their family's reality show. Where she pretends to be Spanish more of the life. Uh, I have zero courtesy for them or for, I just, it's just horrific. This is, uh, unbelievable. I saw this headline this morning, a heartless dad crashed. This is actually a weird story because I've never heard of a dad doing this. A heartless dad crashed at a hundred miles per hour and then fled the scene, leaving his injured wife and kids behind. And it happened in Texas and near Houston. Uh, he, uh, It was a Chevy Avalanche that he was driving, cut the speeding car off while turning into a gas station. And he cut somebody off and they had an accident. And the Ford shot into the air. It was a family. And a Ford Expedition, that's the car that the dad was driving. One of the children, an eight-year-old girl, was ejected upon impact. The Chevy ended up in the guardrail. The father ran from his family without hesitation, according to the Houston Police Department. He sprinted off, jumped into another car and then drove him away from the horror crash. They said he ran over the babies. He jumped over the babies, the mom and everywhere, everybody. According to the driver of the Chevy, he said the mom was bleeding everywhere. He said, I had no idea what was going through his mind at the time. or why he felt like he needed to flee. The family was rushed to nearby hospitals. They're expected to survive. Two of the three victims are in stable but critical condition. I hope the woman's seen a divorce lawyer. And yeah, I would absolutely straight up leave a man over that. You're damn right I would. Oh boy. What's weird is I never heard a dad doing this before. I have never heard a story. It's always the dad that like pulls the mom out of the wreckage. And we've actually read stories like that. That's why this is so weird to me. What did he like? I don't know. Was it planned? I don't know. Oh, I'm trying not to be like mystery science theater murder mystery with us. But I really kind of want to be. Oh boy. You guys saw this video. The woman at our precious little airport. Our little airport which they've remodeled and it's all clean. Until this woman stripped naked and stormed for Terminal D. Terminal D is like one of the craziest. It's an international terminal. So it's a big crazy terminal. Because everybody does all the international flights. It's bigger than the others. It's crazier than the others. She only had a plastic water bottle and she was screaming at nobody. And then she screamed I speak all languages. But naked. And they did actually detain her. It just, gosh, she wasn't a chunky. She wasn't a chunk one. Normally they are. She wasn't. So stick with us. We've got more in store. What does living better mean to you? Is it more money? A bigger house? Now think about this. What about how you feel physically every day? Life is so much better when you feel good. When you wake up feeling great, you can do more of the things that you love and you're ready to take on the day. If pain is affecting your life, see how Relief Factor can help change that. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor supports your body's response to inflammation. And it doesn't just mask pain for a short time. It helps to reduce or even eliminate it, and it's safe to take daily. In fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective it is. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Feel better every day, and you'll live better every day. Trying Relief Factor is easy. Get their three-week quick start for only $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF, or visit relieffactor.com.
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You know, I remember when I was growing up, by the way, I love this Rolling Stones track. It's such a great track. I wish that, you know, if all of you could hear it, but we don't have the licensing for it because it's super expensive. But welcome, welcome back. Dana Lash with you, bottom of this first hour. When I was a kid, I think blockbusters still meant something. Blockbusters. Do people talk about blockbusters anymore?
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In what context?
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Like blockbuster movies. Not the store.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, gotcha.
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Sidebar. For all of you 90s kids and teens, y'all know what the feeling was like. And even, well, no 90s because that's when I really remember it. Late 80s, 90s. You remember that you knew that your weekend was going to be turned up. When you went to the Blockbuster video with your parents, and where did you go? The first thing you did when you got into the store, you went to the new release section. I remember the smell of that store. It had like a scent. It was like a retail video. I don't know how to describe it. You know what I'm talking about, Cain. Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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And... I remember going right to where it would say new releases. And it was always sad when you would have the, because they would have the tape underneath it. So you would, and when they didn't have the tape underneath the box, that's when you knew they didn't. Some schmuck took your, the movie that you were going to watch, right? And I, that was, you knew that blockbuster, you knew, especially if you could never get that video, that was like all the big movies that came out in the theater, right? And I remember just... If I didn't go see it in the theater, I was so excited if we were able to rent it. That's so weird. I think about that now. We rented videocassettes. It's so weird, but we did. And then you would get the candy at the end if you were lucky. If you were lucky. The blockbuster going to the movie blockbusters were... Wasn't that when people would line up around the block to go see the movie? Isn't that where that term came from? Yeah. Okay, so... I don't know of any film now that's been out lately that I'm really excited to see. Like now you stream it. You don't rent it. You just stream it further. I don't even hardly go to the theater anymore. And I love good films, but so much of it is garbage because it's just unimaginative. It's derivative. It's just remakings of something else that was a remake of something else that was also a remake. It's just it's insane. And I wanted to come back because there are further developments with this whole thing with the Snow White. So keep this in mind. When Snow White came out, when that film first came out, I read that it was incredibly popular. Everybody wanted to see it. It was like their most, Disney's, their most iconic legacy title, I think was how it was described. And they merged like crazy off of it. And think about it. You had the Cinderella and they started doing all these other remakes, especially the live action remakes, which never translate well. And I don't know what it is, but Disney has a difficulty in picking actresses that can't shut the hell up. Like the chick who, Hermione from Harry Potter, who was Beauty from Beauty and the Beast. I'm one of those people that think if you're going to be casting in roles like that, you need to live up to the hype. I mean, she's pretty, but is she like Beauty from Beauty and the Beast? No. You're telling me that there's no, but they want a name, right? Although I don't think that, maybe they're going to have to reevaluate it. I just think that they should maybe, if your name is Beauty and you're a Disney princess, maybe be beautiful. You know what I'm saying? It's not hard to I'm not being mean. Stop it. Stop it. I'm well aware of my own limitations and shortcomings. I'm saying I can also point them out in others. So I just think maybe you'd be beautiful if you're and if you're going to be Snow White. She will not apparently be quiet on social media. And I've seen a lot of debate, this Rachel Zegler girl, with people saying, oh, she's like this 21-year-old girl. You know, it's so mean that the studio executives put her in this position. And then someone commented on the Instagram account of apparently the son of the producer. of the snow white producer, Mark Platt is the producer of snow, like one of it. He's like the exact producer, his son, Jonah Platt. Someone made that exact comment that I was talking about on his social media account. And he went off. He said this is what the comment was, because Mark Platt was one of that was the dad apparently that flew to New York to talk with Rachel Zegler. The commenter said to Jenna Platt about his dad, quote, Your dad flew to New York City to reprimand a young actress. Any words on this? Because that's creepy as hell and uncalled for. People have the right to free speech. No shame on your father. Jonah Platt writes, you really want to do this? Yeah, my dad, the producer of an enormous piece of Disney IP with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to fly across the country to reprimand his 20-year-old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promoting a movie for which she signed a multi-million dollar contract to get paid and do publicity for. This is called adult responsibility and accountability and her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want your private employment without repercussions. Tens of thousands of people worked on that film and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires and at the risk of all of her colleagues and crew and blue collar workers who depend on that movie to be successful. He added and I thought this was chef's kiss. Narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged. He made a good point because a lot of people were coming out and saying, oh, well, Rachel Zegler, who would not. She was the chick who came out, was like Trump supporter. What did she say? Basically, Trump supporters go to hell. Don't see my movie or something like that. I don't even remember what she said, but it was something so stupid and ridiculous. And then she just kept she was like, vote Kamala. And then she said, free Palestine and all the stupid, which doesn't exist. So how can you free it? So. And she her behavior, especially over Gaza, this chick who was born again, why are all of these trust fund socialists? They're born rich, like the Jasmine Crockett's, the Rachel Zegler. They all come from money. They grew up with money. That's why they're in the films and the movies and all where they are, because they had all of these opportunities that their mommy and daddy's money bought them. And so she's like so far removed from what's happening in the Middle East. The closest that she came to it was probably a history class she took in school while she was being tutored on set. Let's get real. But they were making her sound like she's like this helpless and it's just this helpless little kid. Right. Which is so far from the truth. If you're 20 and 21 years old, dear heavens, I had my own roof over my own head when I was 21 years old and I didn't grow up in the Great Depression. OK, I was I'm baby Gen X. I was a 90s kid. So I can't stand this spinning that, oh, I can't, you can't be responsible if you're this, you know, you're this old and you can't, you know, you can't, you can't do any of this. I find that so, that's not an excuse. And also when you're in the position that she's in. You have an agent. You have a manager. You have somebody that's special that looks over your finances. You have goodness. You're obviously your your parents and your family and all of these people around you. When you sign a contract, you have your manager look at it. Your agent. She's got a manager and an agent. So you have all of those people, probably an extra, you know, an attorney, your own attorney, all of these people that are that are advising you on what to do, the decisions to make and also how to act. And this idea that she's just out there floating in the ether with no guidance or direction. And that's what's intimated by this is pretty. It's asinine. So she has a team of people that work with her. When you're signing multimillion dollar contracts to be in movies, you're doing a job. 20 and 21 year olds are not children. They're grown people. Stop infantilizing people as a way to excuse them of their bad behavior. She's just an entitled mouthy brat. And it's starting to look cringe because you can't be a brat anymore when you're 20 or 21. You're a grown ass woman. Stop it. Either be empowered or be a baby, but pick a lane. So now she's feeling the full weight of these consequences of her actions. And, you know, they're and apparently like there's all this stuff leaking out, like the set energy was real bad. And apparently her behavior with regards to Gaza was so bad. Gal Gadot started getting death threats like crazy because Rachel Zegler wouldn't. Apparently, according to what Vanity Fair and everybody else was saying, she wouldn't stop running her mouth. And as a result, endangered her co-star, who's a mother of four. I mean, she also literally just had a baby. So I don't know if you saw that came out. I have that on my sub stack that I sent out to you subscribers. So she, you know, she was getting tons of death threats from what this crazy stuff that her co-star was saying. And that's kind of that's that's how do you she had extra security when she was going out just just preparing and promoting the film. And I don't think a lot of people gave that enough attention. I mean, that's pretty unbelievable. And they were trying to say, oh, well, there's controversy also. And by they, I mean the press. Oh, there's controversy also because of Gal Gadot. There was no controversy because of Gal Gadot. She's Israeli. She's not controversial just because she's Israeli. So I don't know. She just won't stop talking. Audio Soundbite 19. She just won't stop talking.
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And to everyone who hates when I win, the wind victory came to the Louvre in pieces. And people still line up to see her. She's such a bad actress. And I can only hope that despite my flaws, and despite my cracks and my breaks, and there are many of them, that at every premiere and everything I do, People will wait in line to see.
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They're not, though. No one's literally nobody's there in the theater. So she rented out a whole theater for herself, didn't she? Or was that what I read? Or she probably didn't have to. It was money wasted. Nobody's going to see it.
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They're all empty.
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Yeah, nobody's going to see it. She just seems that she's like an avatar for the liberal mentality. And apparently nobody in her life is directing her any different. And that's really a letdown by her management and her agent. When you have Disney executives meeting with you telling you, can you stop promoting Hamas? And yeah, when you're out there saying, you know, free Palestine, that's exactly what you're doing. Palestine's a fake place that doesn't exist. Hamas is a terror group. And the people that voted for Hamas are terrorists, too. If you don't know enough about an issue, we have a vain society that thinks that it doesn't matter if they don't know enough about a particular issue. The world deserves their opinion anyway. We deserve the burden of these dumbasses' opinions. They think it doesn't matter if they don't know. She doesn't know. And think about it. You have Disney executives flying across the country because you're running a mouth about a foreign policy ongoing conflict, and then you are attacking half of the country, half of the country's voters, going after and maligning people who voted one way. And she wouldn't take anything down. And then when it was like a half-hearted kind of apology, not really an apology, some were saying, oh, well, you know, you can't, you shouldn't cancel this girl. You shouldn't, you shouldn't go. This is not about cancellation. Please don't use words that you don't understand, right? Because then we all have to take time out of our day and correct it. This is about accountability. Don't mistake, for the purpose of deflection, accountability with cancelability. They're two entirely different things. You don't get a pass on your stupid actions by screaming, cancel, don't cancel me, as some sort of like inoculation. That's not how this works. If you do something stupid, yeah, you tend to have to reap the consequences of that something stupid. It's not, like I said, difficult. So that's what this is. You're not immune from consequence. And this wasn't about free speech. No one stopped her from saying it. They're just not protecting her from the consequences of her own choices. And that's what a lot of these people that scream about free speech, particularly foreign students who are here, who are acting and out in ways that violate the agreements of their permission to visit no one's stopping anybody from saying anything but there is a consequence to being stupid and demanding that you being protected from the consequence of the stupid thing that you did or said that's not free speech you're just demanding a pass We have a lot more on the way. Partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends at Gold Co. Precious Metals. The economy. I mean, we're all waiting for everything to kind of get normalized. Of course, we need tax cuts because it's not going to be great until we get that. But anyway, you can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today. And you could qualify for up to 10% in bonus silver when you visit through DanaLikesGold.com. Goldman Sachs Research, they raise the gold price forecast to $3,100 by the end of the year. That's underpinned by higher than expected demand from central banks. So now is the time to move. Now is the time to buy. It's easy and transparent to do with GoldCo, a strong supporter of this show. Nobody knows metals inside and out better than them. You can secure your future with GoldCo. Investing in metals is straightforward and reliable. And with over $3 billion in gold and silver secured for hardworking Americans. They've been a top-rated company from the start. And experience matters when it comes to protecting your wealth. GoldCo has that experience. They've helped thousands of people secure their financial futures with gold and silver. And they've been with our program since the beginning, so they know what they're doing. You can secure your future and trust GoldCo. 6,000-plus five-star reviews, an A-plus Better Business Bureau rating. I mean, they are literally the number one-rated gold company in the country. So call now, request their free 2025 GoldCo kit, or actually visit their website now, and learn how to diversify and safeguard your savings today. Visit danalikesgold.com, join the thousands who've called GoldCo the number one rated gold company, and you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit. On top of that, you could also qualify for up to 10% in bonus silver. That's danalikesgold.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's Gabriel Iglesias on his all new Don't Worry, Be Fluffy World Tour.
SPEAKER 24 :
I like doing the voices in places where people can't see me, like drive-thrus. Oh, I'm evil at a drive-thru, man, except the one by my house because they know me. I'm not going to help you. Yeah, let me help. Pull up.
SPEAKER 11 :
I didn't order. Gabriel, pull up. Friday, April 4th, Total Mortgage Arena.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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They're fighting for a 2% issue. That's good. Let them keep doing it. No matter how many surgeries you have or chemicals you inject, if you're born with male DNA in every cell of your body, you can never become a woman. You're not going to be a woman.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, where's the lie? That's what POTUS was saying in his recent remarks. Where's the lie, though? There is no lie. No matter what you do, no matter if you get breast implants, doesn't matter if you grow your hair out or get extensions, it doesn't matter if you wear lipstick or panties or any of the other things.
SPEAKER 09 :
It doesn't matter. Even if I wear heels?
SPEAKER 21 :
Even if you wear heels. Even if you put on makeup and you do your nails. Even if you have exaggerated hand movements, although I've never seen a chick talk like that. You're still not... Gonna be a dude.
SPEAKER 09 :
I've been wrongfully informed these past several years.
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Apparently you have been, sir. Wrongfully informed. Not going to be a dude. And you're not going to force people because you can't be one. You're not going to have as your choice be to force everyone to accommodate you by affirming your cosplay. No more than I'm going to force people to give me the perks of being a billionaire without actually being a billionaire. Take that somewhere else. What if I showed up in Monaco and was like, where's my yacht? I identify as a yacht-owning billionaire. Where is it? I'm going to go cruise the Aegean. Where is it at? No one's going to go, oh, this woman... believes that she owns a yacht and is a billionaire, we must accommodate her because the nice thing to do is indulge her fantasy. But we're going to accommodate her at the expense of everyone else. No, they're not going to do that. They're going to go, who is this crazy bee? Where is where is her husband to get her? Get this woman. That's what they're going to say. You know, that's, I don't know. I mean, if we're going, we're going to pick and choose what we're going to quote unquote affirm. And you know what affirm means? Affirm isn't tolerance. Affirm is accept. And it goes beyond that. Affirm is you have to actively accept and validate. That's what that means. We are a long way from tolerance, are we not? Coming up in our second hour, the GOP House Majority. is in question, so much so that Elise Stefanik's UN ambassadorship nomination is being reconsidered. Stay with us. You've heard me talk about Berna before. I always think it's good to have a diversified implements for self-defense, and I'm always going to carry a firearm, and I have zero issues using lethal force at all whatsoever to protect myself or my loved ones. So That being said, I'm not able to carry everywhere. I have friends that live in New York and D.C. They're not able to carry everywhere. They have big kids. They got big kid jobs. They got to go to work and municipal restrictions. You guys know the drill. The Burna gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. It's a good deterrent. And the best selling model is the Burna SD. Right. There's no recoil. There's no background check. It's illegal in all 50 states. It doesn't care about gun free zone signs. And there's no permits, nothing. It ships right to your door. You can choose your model, the color. There's different projectiles and accessories there. So for my friends who are barred from their constitutional rights by, you know, working, living and working in D.C. or Manhattan, they do carry burner guns because you guys seen the crime rate for those cities. They don't want to be left a statistic. You carry blades. You have rifles and pistols. You have all different calibers. It's good to have diversity. So reevaluate your self-defense plans and options. Visit Byrna.com slash Dana. That's B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana. That's where you get 10% off your purchase.
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We are ecstatic to see an administration finally address the unfair trade laws in this country. These laws have destroyed the American working class. They've destroyed communities in this country and virtually every state for decades.
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I love whenever they have the traffic in the background because it sounds like some of those vehicles were also trying to get Their chance at the mic. Welcome back to the program. Top of the second hour. Dana Lash with you. That was Sean Fain, the president of UAW. And of course, he was making this remark right after the announcement came out. POTUS saying that they're going to he's going to be applying a 25 percent tariff. to all vehicles, foreign made vehicles and auto parts. So that's an interesting move. Very interesting move. Because what is that going to do? What impact is that going to have? And we talked about that steel plant that was in Louisiana that Hyundai is doing. Louisiana, that's going to create about 1300 jobs. And I understand, too, that it's also part of the pushback to to stop really ultimately stop the unfair targeting, the unfair, the unfairness overall, against the US as it pertains to tariffs. I mean, we've been we're hammered. And yet, if we try to reciprocate, then we're the ones accused of somehow jeopardizing free and fair trade, which doesn't make sense. I don't know why nobody's saying, there's no criticism of the other countries that are doing it. Because we're just trying to help out our own markets. I do understand that argument. I really do. Whether or not this ends up Being a successful thing. There's a lot of stuff that goes into that because you have the economy right now to think about. We the economy. You've got inflation. Although I realize that some things are starting to stabilize with others. It takes longer. But. Consider also, there's a lot of, I agree with you, we need to have more domestic manufacturing. We should be onshore and all this stuff. I have no, but you know, we had for years, Democrats, with the help of some Republicans, but it was mainly Democrats that made it a very, very hostile, very hostile place for business to flourish. And it resulted in people sending out jobs. The amount of foreign-made cars Would you say what is it? I don't think it's half, Cain, but I know that, I mean, there are a lot of Americans who buy foreign-made cars. Lots of Americans who buy foreign-made cars. A lot of cars, you know, USA companies, parts or different pieces of the whole car made in Mexico. That's going to increase on average. I think the best guesstimation was anywhere from $3,000 to $12,000 per vehicle. That's that's kind of what we're looking at. And so is that something that Americans are going to be able to handle? American families, are they going to be able to swing something like that? Is there a lot of stuff that goes into it? I think that it would be better received if we had tax cuts. I'm going to call always come back to that. I'm always going to come back to it. It's true. But the 25%, that also includes, like I said, the auto parts. And yes, I think you can view these as a shot in the arm for many who... would uh... definitely like to have these jobs they they you know we've had the sector that's been struggling for a long time due to these trade policies i mean i i see both sides of the argument i see that you know millions of american manufacturing jobs have disappeared I get that this is looking at the bigger picture of long-term economic sustainability. But I also understand the argument that people are saying, well, it's sticker shock too. I mean, industry experts have been out there saying it looks like $3,000 to $12,000 per car. And that's going to be a price increase that's going to land on families. You might have people scale back production rather than relocate. Others may just say, you know, well, that means that we're going to have less. Maybe we're not going to have newer models, as many newer models. Maybe we're going to cut corners somewhere else. Some argue and say, well, that's, you know, we understand your concerns, but, you know, the cost kind of was already paid by steel workers and the machinists who all lost their jobs when you had all these foreign automakers flooding the market. And as Kane noted, it was 45% price increase? It was. I know it was a big price increase.
SPEAKER 09 :
On used car prices, they really shot up. It was closer to 20-25% on the new car prices, but it was still a jump from 2021-2022. Huge increase in car prices, both used and new.
SPEAKER 21 :
Right. Trump also suggesting making interest on loans for American-made cars tax deductible. Now, that would be a jolt, a shot in the arm, I think. Any way that they can cushion the blow for everyday Americans, though, that's going to be key. If he's doing stuff like... Just imagine it. We have... Imagine if Congress was able to make... more unleashed domestic energy production, more manufacturing. We also cut government spending and we made tax cuts. We lowered taxes and made the tax cuts permanent. Holy cow. I think the result would make Reagan's economic victories and gains look small by comparison. But we don't have the backbone in Congress to do it. And we're losing out on the numbers, which brings me to my next story. Elise Stefanik, her nomination to be U.N. ambassador is in jeopardy. I was warning about this from the get go for good reason. Because not because I don't dislike Elise Stefanik or I know. Yes, I think the U.N. is a ridiculous organization and we all just play pretend and we just give them prime real estate in Manhattan. Why? I mean, I agree with all of that. But we barely have a majority in the House. We're almost tied. I mean, in terms of tied up, we're almost not able to do anything. We it's 218 to 213. And this is, like I said, what, three seats, all that needs to be flipped for Democrats to get this majority in midterms, which I'm going to say every day now. Now, she has the votes to get confirmed. She has not resigned from her seat in Congress. And apparently there have been a lot of discussions with House Republican with congressional leaders. And they're a little worried about what that means for getting anything done. any other things done in Congress if Stefanik leaves and joins the administration. The administration has picked a number of members of its cabinet and advisors from the House. And the problem is that we've now, we've shrunk our majority, which was already tight. We have the narrowest majority in over 100 years. That's how tight it is. I don't think that I don't think anybody else from the House should be considered for anything. I don't think that she should be considered for this. And that's not to say anything about her record or it's not personal. I'm looking at the numbers. Because then you're going to have to defend her seat in New York. And she's been there for a while. But that doesn't mean anything anymore, as we've learned time and time again. I mean, you we could easily that's something you could use. She's in the 21st district. She's in her fifth term and she's got five terms in the 21st district because she's she's able to walk the line of being an effective enough lawmaker while also being bombastic, but not so bombastic that that's all she's known for. So she's found, I think, a nice balance with that. And her voters like her. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the next Republican that comes in is going to be successful. Case in point, the sixth congressional district in Florida. Where you have a giant rhino. Who was, I don't know why, somebody told POTUS to endorse this guy and they gave POTUS some really bad advice. There are still some vipers in his inner circle, guys. So, and he was on our show, Randy Fine. He's actually within the margin of error with the Democrat. This was a seat that Mike Waltz had. He won by over 30 points. Trump carried this. DeSantis carried this district. I mean, it was overwhelmingly red. And now the rhino that the establishment decided to con the president into backing is not. He may not turn it out. It's actually been declared a toss up. It is. They are. They're virtually tied. There's no daylight. I have no idea how this race is going to go. No idea. But this is a House seat that we need. And it was a red Republican House seat. It was Mike Waltz's seat. And now it could go blue because the Republican establishment conned the president into backing the worst squish who is, he backs gun control. He doesn't like E-Verify. You know, he likes to be, you know, he loves, well, he'll answer to the highest bidder. That's a fact. So. We could lose that seat to a Democrat. That's another reason, by the way, I don't want Mike Waltz fired because it would all be for nothing. Imagine you leave your seat and you jeopardize the House majority to go serve in the president's cabinet. And that's one of the reasons why Democrats are gunning for him. Democrats want Mike Waltz out of the way because they know they've got him out of that House seat. He's in the cabinet now. They want to get him out of the cabinet. That all jeopardized. It'll all be for nothing. It'll all be such a horrible, horrible, horrible stain. That's so that's one of that's the that's the reason I don't want him to leave. I get very Machiavellian about strategy. Yes, I do not want him to leave. You can sit here and say, take the L all day long. That's great. He's not giving up the seat. He's not giving up the position. And? So now they're considering replacing Stefanik as the nominee for this U.S. ambassadorship. I think that it is a stupid waste to take another of your House members, jeopardize your majority further, and waste it on the U.N., It's an ornamental position. You can you just get B roll for future campaigns. You don't actually have any authority to do anything there. The UN is a joke. It's an absolute joke. And so this I don't know. I just I hope that this that is listen. I hope that they listen to it. They listen to these congressional leaders that are warning about this. But I don't know. I just think you're endangering this seat. So the 21st, like I said, she's been there for five terms. You can't depend on everything being so reliably read. I just wouldn't want it to because this was a they went for Obama. They went for Trump. Trump did really well in this district. But it is flipped. It's it's one of those districts that was pretty solid blue. And then in 2016, they went for Trump. And then they started getting more and more red. But again, there I've got two examples of other house races. And the sixth congressional district in Florida is one of those examples. You cannot jeopardize this. You cannot mess around with it. So they're trying to determine who they can pick. I don't think you need a star. I don't think that, you know, I hate using that phrase, but I don't think that you need one of your starting players to be the ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley had that position before. I don't think that you need to put one of your starting players in that position. It's the U.N. Don't waste it. It's an ornamental thing. Do not take Stefanik out of the House. They need to find, the administration needs to find a different person for this. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I don't believe these people. A demonic sea lion reports spark concerns about toxic algae on the California coast. My favorite thing is watching these people with these boards that say Marine Wildlife Rescue try to corner this sea lion. So Californians are concerned. They say that the toxic algae is poisoning the sea lions and making them act demonic. I know, they're playing metal backwards and all kinds of stuff on the beach up there. It's wild. That's what the sea lions are doing. Yeah, now here's what's funny. Californians are like, they're acting demonic. That's what ABC said. They're being poisoned by domoic acid.
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D-O-M-O-I-C.
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That seems intentional. It seems intentional because the Californians are like, they're acting like demonic and stuff. Like, oh my gosh. I'm just doing a Valley Girl accent. It's a neurotoxin within the algae blooms. So the fish eat the algae blooms, the sea lions eat the fish, and then ingesting that causes amnesiac shellfish poisoning in humans and marine manimals. Marine manimals. We're going with it. They said that they've been acting aggressively and they go back and forth from being super aggressive to being totally lethargic. They said they look like they're stargazing. Some of them, they have a seizure and they look real sleepy or they're abnormally aggressive and they're scaring the hell out of the Californians. In Ventura, California, one surfer said that he was attacked at Oxnard State Beach by a quote unquote demonic sea lion that bit him and dragged him off his board. Dang. I'm just saying you got to share their house. Old school metal braces are coming back. I don't know. I thought Invisalign was pretty good, guys. Why are they coming? They're like apparently it's like a status symbol because people are desperate to signal something. They're saying that they're coming back and it is it's actually being looked at as a status symbol. It's a cool thing to have on your teeth now. If you need to use that to sell it to your kids, do it. Stick with us. Super Beats, the only super, the only beet product that I recommend to you. Sorry, just not a big fan of the other ones. I think this one is the one that has, well, not only because I know it works, but I mean, I started taking it before they started working with me. But also they put a lot of effort into every product that they bring to market. They have actual scientists and medical professionals that they work with. And they are sticklers for detail. So you know the Super Beats heart chews for heart health. Well, they have Super Boreem. This supports healthy metabolism and blood sugar levels. It's a plant-based formula. And it's berberine, an Italian olive fruit extract. And the berberine that they use, they wanted a particular type of berberine. And they had this, what they use, clinically studied. It actually delivers 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine, which means fewer pills to swallow. You get metabolism and healthy blood sugar support benefits in one capsule a day. because I can literally hear Nana right now asking this question. There's no GI distress. If you're worried about berberine causing GI distress, their unique formula with grapeseed extract actually improves tolerability. You can get both the Super Berrine and the number one best-selling Super Beats hard shoes at Sam's Club. That's where you can go purchase Super Beats hard shoes for your heart health support and the Super Berrine for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support. That's from our folks at our friends at Human.
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keep your finger on the pulse with a dana show podcast delivering timely news with insightful analysis whenever you want straight to you on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcasts welcome back to the program dana lash with you bottom of the second hour channel 347 direct tv is uh the simulcast the chats at rumble we got youtube facebook x all those good things i um I was watching this hearing, just back and forth, between the head of NPR, which is a propaganda entity, let's be real about it, and the head of NPR, Catherine Maher, who apparently, this is interesting, is described as also being chair of the board of directors at the Signal Foundation.
SPEAKER 09 :
Where have I heard that before?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, the Signal Foundation is an open source private technology. That's what it is. And it's the app that, interestingly enough, featured in the story this week came out. Do you believe in coincidences as it relates to anything regarding politics? Because I don't. There is no such thing as a coincidence in politics. If you're in D.C. and you're like, huh, this seems like a coincidence. That's the equivalent of Neo seeing the cat, the same cat, which, by the way, I thought that was a horrible way to do deja vu. That's not what deja vu was. That's my only criticism about the first Matrix. Remember when he had deja vu and he saw the same cat? It's like that's the feeling. When things become too just coincidental in politics or anything related to D.C., anything, that is a red sign. That's a red flag. And she has been president of NPR for about a year now. She took over last year. And she's chair of the board of the Signal Foundation. I don't think that she stepped down. I mean, not at least that I've seen. So that seems to be problematic. She apparently also was an appointed member of the U.S. Department of State's Foreign Affairs Policy Board, where she advises Secretary of State on tech policy. Here's why I bring this up. She's one of those super woke scolds, right? Big time woke scold. According to her own tweets. It's not like we're making this up about her just because she's at NPR. I mean, this is like according to her own actual tweets. So she's this big woke scold. And she was before a House subcommittee yesterday testifying about this. You know, it's an ongoing examination in the wake of the U.S. aid money and the waste, fraud and abuse. And she was testifying, answering questions from members of Congress. And it was really interesting because, you know, members of Congress are going to do their due diligence on her. And they're going to have looked at her tweets. They're going to have looked or her posts on X rather. They're going to have looked at all this. So I don't know why you would obfuscate or deflect or, you know, whatever it is. So she is totally caught off guard. She's answering these questions in this subcommittee hearing. And this is after she had, you know, already come asking for more taxpayer dollars, etc. And she got caught in a web of her own insanity. This is and I'm glad to see him doing this because I previously did not like the stunt with the thing, the hundred dollar bill, whatever. And I'm like, oh, we got to get serious about all this stuff. This is exactly, I think, what Brendan Gill should be doing. He's a congressman from Texas, from my area. And it was his questioning. And this was really I thought this was really good for a number of reasons. Let me set this up. I think he's a millennial, but he has this borrowed Gen Z cynicism that you can only have gotten from being associated with Gen X. You know what I mean? There's this Gen X cynicism and a Gen Z delivery that I thought goes over really well here. It made me think of the ramen noodle guy. Remember the guy who was munching just legit a package of ramen noodles and he was correcting, what's his face, Cuomo? Yeah. I got those vibes from this. Everybody has their own niche to fill and they have their own style. And I think if Gil keeps doing this because he's a freshman congressman, I think if he keeps doing this, this is going to be a completely empty space that not many people can occupy. So he he's there in the hearing. And I didn't pay too much attention to the stack of papers that he had literally right at his right side until he lifted them up. Now, it's a little long, but it's actually hysterical. The nuance in his voice and then the way he kind of like shrugs his eyebrows when he's questioning her. It's just comical. It is hysterical. You need to watch this. Listen to how this exchange goes down.
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Ms. Marr, I want to start with you. Just generally, would you say you generally agree or disagree with the following statement? The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles? I would not say I agree with that. That's good to hear. It's interesting because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your public statements, is deeply infused with economic and cultural Marxism. Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?
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I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.
SPEAKER 23 :
It has evolved. Why did you tweet that?
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't be able to say.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay. Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy?
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't believe that, sir.
SPEAKER 23 :
You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time, apparently, The Case for Reparations.
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't think I've ever read that book, sir.
SPEAKER 23 :
You tweeted about it. You said you took a day off to fully read the case for reparations. You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.
SPEAKER 18 :
Apologies, I don't recall that I did. No doubt that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that.
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Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races? I do not. You tweeted something to that effect. You said, I grew up feeling superior. Ha, how white of me. Why did you tweet that?
SPEAKER 18 :
I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.
SPEAKER 23 :
It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I was just reflecting on my own experiences.
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Do you think that white people should pay reparations? I have never said that, sir. Yes, you did. In January 2020, you tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, yes, America, yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt, yes, reparations, yes, on this day.
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
SPEAKER 23 :
What kind of reparations was it a reference to?
SPEAKER 18 :
I think that's just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.
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My favorite part of this whole thing, there's two. The first one is he goes, he's holding up the paper and he goes, yes, you did. And then when he looks right at her and he raises his eyebrows and he's like, so you think that people should pay? It was hysterical. Why do I like this so much? I thought about this. Because normally, and I'm going to get, yes, I'm going to get to the thing where he was, you know, the meat and potatoes, but he's actually questioning the NPR CEO or president. There's a reason why I like this so much. And I think that this stands out to me because it's a different type of GOP. We have, and I'm going to deep dive with you here for a second, so hold on with me. For the past eight years, and I'm not saying I don't like this style, but we've had this for the past eight years, a very confrontational, in-your-face, brawler type of messaging and response. And I get it because I'm one of the people who's been doing it since 2008, before then, really. So I get it. I think that there's a time for that, but I also think that many Republicans have forgotten that. how to play that. There's a time for it, and many Republicans have forgotten that there is a time for it, that you just do it all the time. And with this attention economy clickbait culture, that's rewarded. The more bombastic, and I'm not saying it's bad, but sometimes after a while, it seems performative. You know what I mean? It seems performative. It seems as though You're doing it for the purpose of theatrics rather than genuine out. I mean, yes, you're outraged, but to that degree, I don't know. And not everybody in D.C. is a good enough actor. And I think that's why this stood out to me so much, because it was so effective without trying to be. There was not a, you know, perfectly polished, focused group soundbite that Gil delivered. And a lot of these lawmakers, they have their, you know, their comebacks ready to go and they got the cameras ready and they know exactly they're going to pull this for some B-roll footage for a campaign ad. They got it already. I didn't get that with this. It was very organic. And there was a sense it almost met the measure of smarminess, but it didn't. He was respectful, but very cynical about. It was one of those where, I mean, he would moot for the purpose of moving on. He'd go, okay. And then he would move on and ask the next thing. But it was the tone and the, I mean, he was so, he was well prepared. And I mean, him holding up that piece of paper was just like that ramen noodle dude, man. Yes, you did. Yeah, you did. And he just shows her. It was organic. And that made it hysterical. There is I think this is what Republicans need to develop more because you have people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, very theatrical. Nancy Grace, very performative. I'm not knocking them. I'm just saying that's what that's. They're very, very performative. Performative outrage. This here, what we see with Gil is. Organic and almost like a Gen X brand of organic cynicism. And it plays so well. It's like Arrested Development meets Schitt's Creek. Right? I think that's why I like it so much. Because he's not trying to like, well, yeah, well, what? He's not trying to do that. He's just a cynic. And he's just sitting there like, yeah, you did. And, you know, it would say, will you believe reparations? He's got like this tenor-like grit in his voice. It's very Gen X, but Gen Z delivery. Don't you agree, Cain? Isn't that, I think that's why it works so well. And do you agree with my point about I think we're getting tired of the over-performative outrage theater?
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Yes. Because all we've seen is Democrats do is turn the volume up on that. And it clearly is a turnoff to most of the country.
SPEAKER 21 :
And Republicans respond by also turning up the volume. And then nobody gets any. You learned more about this woman in those two minutes and six seconds. Yeah. With that line of questioning, because he allowed her to talk, he wasn't trying to like, but also you knew exactly who was leading whom here. There's no question. I think Republicans need to adopt more of this. But I also think that I can't see Marjorie Taylor Greene doing this.
SPEAKER 09 :
And not an ounce of hyperbole. No, no hyperbole at all. That's right. All the Democrats use.
SPEAKER 21 :
And some Republicans, that's why I'm like, I want to see more of this because that was hysterical. Yeah, you did. That's hysterical. And I don't know why that's not like a meme because it's funny. It was funny. I watched it like three times. It was hysterical. Yes, you did. Like, do you think white people should pay reparations? I never said that. Yeah. And holds. Yeah, you did. It's just funny. That's it's very interesting. Very, very interesting. I think that's why I like that exchange so much. Like I said, and she had to answer for all of it. He noted that she came begging as with PBS begging for more taxpayer money. And she handed him a mug labeled Made in Texas, right? And he turned it over and the sticker at the bottom literally says Made in China. Gold prices have surged over 40% since January 2024, consistently reaching new highs. According to Goldman Sachs research, the upward trend is expected to persist due to strong demand from central banks. It's stuff like this that's made me take action and why I've bought precious metals like gold and silver. I've partnered with a great company that makes it super easy to buy. Easy, transparent, and simple. And that company is Goldco. They're a huge supporter of this show, and they're the best at what they do. And right now, you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit jam-packed with critical information about buying precious metals. It was a huge help, not just for me, but to all of you if you do this. And for my audience, you could also qualify for up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver. It's a really great deal, so don't miss out. Visit danalikesgold.com to learn more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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SPEAKER 09 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 21 :
This guy is 40 years old. I'm sorry. He's 40 years old. This guy is supposed to be 40 years old.
SPEAKER 09 :
He's 40 years over 20?
SPEAKER 21 :
Dude, Kane and I are freaking out over this. So a Florida man dressed up as a clown was taken down. I'm going to get through it. Florida man dressed as a clown was taken down by officers for allegedly trespassing. And there's footage. It was Palm Bay. Forty-year-old Christopher Marlowe was charged with trespassing after a warning, and he clashed with police officers. This was just the other day at a shopping plaza, and they said that he'd already been banned from the plaza prior to the incident. They were going to get him for blanket trespass. He was yelling to himself, loitering, and, quote, serving no purpose on the property. He was described as aggressive, and he said, quote, I'm not trespassed. I'm going to come back. Blank, y'all.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, look at that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, and the Palm Bay Police Department shared a compilation of the body camera footage with circus music, and it showed his arrest, and he's there. Now, it says clown, but King clearly... Is it? That looks like a Ronald McDonald outfit.
SPEAKER 08 :
It does.
SPEAKER 21 :
He balled up his fist and they said took a bladed stance and was challenging them to fight him. They go, you look like a clown, said one of the arresting officers. And he says, quote, I am a clown. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
I guess his name's not happy.
SPEAKER 21 :
No, his name isn't. And then he clearly was not going to comply when they asked for him to get his mug shot, standing there with his mouth gaping open with his teeths.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's generous to make it plural.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, his tea. It's very generous. Oh, my gosh. All right, all right, all right. I got to move on. So we also have a Florida... Oh, I got the meth. We had the meth underwear one already. This Florida man was accused of firing his rifle for target practice at his apartment after watching a military movie. Christopher Gaffney was accused, 30 years old. He fired a rifle outside of his apartment complex. Apparently, there were kids playing in the yard. Not his kids, just some kids. He's facing charges. Apparently, he was drunk. What? So they're saying that he was using it under the influence and he is currently in jail. He says, I was watching a military movie and it made him want to get out and make a makeshift target out of a tree and all this. And he made up, fashioned up a target that he missed multiple times. He didn't hit anything. Not even in the target, thankfully. So, yeah, he's he's got in trouble for that. I can't deal with these. Third hour on the way. as we move our partners that help bring you the program it's our friends over at patriot mobile the only christian conservative cell phone service provider in the country and not only do they uh not only do they bring you great service but they're also making sure that your money is not working against you they have nationwide coverage you can trust operating on all three major networks. You can support what you believe in. They have seamless switching with a 100% based, US-based customer service team. So you can keep your phone, keep your number, upgrade. The choice is entirely yours. And when you visit, go to patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT. Use promo code Dana and you get a free month of service. So that's patriotmobile.com slash Dana, 972-PATRIOT. Code Dana for that free month of service.
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SPEAKER 15 :
We're going to have tremendous goodies in the bag for women, too. The women between the fertilization and all of the other things that we're talking about. It's going to be great. We're joined today.
SPEAKER 12 :
Goodies in the bag.
SPEAKER 15 :
Fertilization. I'm still very proud of it. I don't care. I'll be known as the fertilization president. That's okay. That's not bad.
SPEAKER 21 :
that's not bad i've i've been called i've been called much worse actually i like it right i like it that's potus speaking yesterday uh and it's funny because he's he meant to say what was he gonna say the uh like in vitro or whatever and he just said fertilization president it's kind of funny but i love how he goes I also like, which I think isn't getting as much attention. He's got a bag of goodies here.
SPEAKER 12 :
Got some goodies in the bag for you ladies. Can we isolate that? Come to the goody room.
SPEAKER 15 :
We're going to have tremendous goodies in the bag for women too. Between the fertilization and oil.
SPEAKER 12 :
I voted for tremendous goodies.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay. I don't know what, Cain, what'd you vote for? I voted for tremendous goodies.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure. Absolutely. Any adjective goodies.
SPEAKER 21 :
I think I might just delete everything on my ex bio and just have tremendous goodies put in there. Bag of tremendous goodies. Oh, can we save that? I just need it. I need it as a stinger. Welcome by. Hi, guys. By the way, welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. I'm just so I have this plane and I got the last mugshot of the Florida man staring at me right now. So it's weird. I'm just like, what is happening with my desktop screen? Good to be back with you. Top of the third hour. The chats at Rumble. I can't be held responsible. X, Facebook, all that good stuff. And a lot of good things. Make sure you find us over at Substack 2, chapter and verse. Stuff goes out there on the reg. All right. Can I just one more time? No, you don't need to play it. I just want to say tremendous goodies.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I do. We're going to have tremendous, tremendous goodies in the bag.
SPEAKER 21 :
So, ladies, next time somebody asks me, well, what did you vote for? I voted for tremendous goodies in the bag. Thank you. what i voted for all right a few things to touch on which i didn't get to this uh but i'm going to i tweeted actually i know i tweeted about it i tweeted about um i don't know if you guys saw this you guys know yeti right the company everybody knows the yeti people they make their super expensive coolers and they got um I feel like they turned their back on the people that made them. I feel like they turned their back on hunters and gun owners and all of that because they decided to really get away. They and Under Armour sort of did. I know some people who work in the who work in the hunting industry uh industry like they you know products things like actual legitimate hunters and um they had sponsorships with Under Armour and they can't post stuff with guns and things like that it's real weird I'm not going to say who because I don't want to they're dear friends and and there's nothing bad meant about it from their end but they're just like yeah this is what's happening I bring this up because I saw this I reposted it the other day Claire uh Boothloose center for conservative women it's a ladies organization you know they also voted for tremendous goodies i'm for the rest of the hour they were getting ready it's a virginia-based organization and they were they've had they've done this before and they order these um They're like, they're Yetis, but they're coffee mugs. They're not, which I don't understand, honestly, the point of it. I'm like, I drink coffee to get in faster.
SPEAKER 09 :
Keeps it warmer longer.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay. I don't know. Is it dishwasher safe? Because Dana doesn't buy nothing unless it's dishwasher safe.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think the actual coffee cup ones are.
SPEAKER 21 :
I heard someone scream out there. You said washer. I did. Dishwasher is exactly what the word is.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's no R in it.
SPEAKER 21 :
Dishwasher. Tremendous goodies. Dishwasher. So they ordered these personalized, what do they call them? Seafoam green. It's almost like a, it's like next, nearly almost a Tiffany blue. Anyway, so they ordered, you know, companies get these tumblers and they put their company name on them and they send them out and that's, you know, normal. So they were buying I don't know how many, but they had put in a reorder is what they said. They've done this before. They put in a reorder of these tumblers, this seafoam green tumblers. And they noticed, like I said, they've done it before, same order. So it's a reorder. They didn't order more. So don't think that it wasn't because they couldn't fulfill it because they've done it before. They reordered them. And then all was going well. Until all of a sudden they heard back from the Yeti people. And the Yeti people told them that they could not do it. They said that their logo includes the phrase quote unquote conservative women. And they after they sent all their cancellation emails after they paid over sixteen hundred dollars after all of that. They had the cancellation email from the Yeti people. And it said their order was canceled because the logo includes the phrase conservative women. And that to me seems to be a problem here. I mean, I don't know why that's it's it's the clear booth loose. It's like in their group name. And they've had them before because they, you can throw, I know Juan just showed it to you, but the reason they have this mug is because they ordered it before. And they had no problem with it. There was no problem with this. I'm looking at the mug on my screen. There was no problem with it. So what's the issue? See, they had ordered it before. Simple enough, right? Well, they got told, well, it's because they have conservative on it. Now, technically, they're their tax structure. They can't actually even be a political group because they that's not how their tax structure. They're not they're not structured in that in that regard in that way. So they called, someone from the group called Yeti to ask what prompted the cancellation, and they were also told verbatim that it was the phrase conservative women. They said it's on the political side, so the mug could not be made. They want to avoid any kind of political affiliation because they're a bunch of pansies. And they said, well, they're... Their policy prevents customizing products aligned with political affiliations or organizations or content that could be considered obscene, vulgar, profane, discriminatory, defamatory, or hateful. They said that earlier transaction, it should not have been made. It was a mistake that it went through. So they can't say it because it says conservative.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, Cain. How is that hateful? How is that defamatory? Did they explain that the word conservative somehow violates their policy that they just outlined?
SPEAKER 21 :
No, they didn't explain it. The last time they did this, Yeti betrayed gun owners. I haven't used Yeti in a long time. I won't put my liquids in a Yeti. They made gun owners mad. This was like 2018. This was like right after Parkland and it was just so stupid that they did it. So Yeti got very... They got political by trying to not be political. Right. Know what I mean? You make drinkware. Are they worried that they're going to get targeted by people who don't buy their products anyway?
SPEAKER 09 :
And why can't you put a little tiny disclaimer? Like if you're printing anything on there, put a little tiny disclaimer on there.
SPEAKER 21 :
This is so stupid. This has nothing to do with you. Everybody knows that if you order a product like that and you have it customized, like a bulk order, that company is not sponsoring you. They're not endorsing your viewpoints. If you purchase a pair of Nike sneakers, That's not Nike endorsing your viewpoint. You're purchasing a product. That's what these people are doing. But the fascistic left doesn't even want you to be able to have that option. So they try to fabricate the stupid claim that, well, if they're working with you, they're validating your existence by working with you. It's just I just don't like Yeti. I get I just it's infuriating that a company would react this way. And they're because that sounds like it's discriminatory against conservative women. And again, I go back to the people who don't would not are not going to purchase these products anyway. They're worried about being targeted by those people. I mean, good heavens. If this is a conservative women's organization, that's it. That's it. Just a conservative women's organization. So why are they trying to Bud Light themselves again? I remember they we had a like we have like these community fairs and stuff in our town square and all this stuff in the town where I live in. And after Yeti did that with firearm owners, this was back in 2018, my husband and I were walking around our town square. It was their art fair or whatever. We just, you know, you walk around and you look at stuff, you enjoy the sunshine. It's nice to talk to people. And we walked by a, Yeti had a tent there. And they haven't had a tent after this, but they had a tent there, Yeti. It was a little, you know, tent at the fair with all the other booth vendors. And they were walking up to people and asking if they wanted a Yeti sticker, if they were interested in looking at the Yeti products. And they came up to us. We were like, no, thank you. No, thank you. And I don't even remember exactly what I said, but they said, oh, they're like, do you know Yeti? Do you not like them? I'm like, are you seriously going to press this with me right now in the middle of the town square? They had no idea who I was, and I wasn't trying to be that way at all. But at first, I mean, and he was being a persistent sales guy, I guess, but he just wouldn't leave it alone. And, you know, I'm I'm trying to be the nice person. My husband's like, yeah, you know why? Because you guys screwed over gun owners. So, no, we are not interested in looking at your stuff. We're not interested. And I'm trying to be like, no, thanks. And just leave me the hell alone. Right. Chris was like, no, we're not interested in it because you're a bunch of he didn't go that far. But he's like, no, you guys screwed over gun owners. Why in the hell would we ever be interested in looking at these products? No. He's like, get out of my way. Which I also thought was nice. It wasn't that guy's problem. He didn't set the company policy. But I do think that you've got to be aware of that kind of stuff, especially when you're in one of the most conservative towns in America. It was just funny. But there are other companies that exist out there besides Yeti. There's one based in Texas called Bison Coolers. It's just it's like they're like Yeti, but with all the nonsense. So hopefully they're going to another one of these companies to get their order filled because this is stupid. I don't know why you would you would you know, I love what Michael Jordan said when people were asking him to get political and he's trying to sell sneakers and he's like Republicans wear sneakers, too. That's exactly right. That's the attitude to have. This idea that, well, I have my political beliefs and everything, including my tennis shoe and my orange juice and my shaving cream and my paper clips. I don't even use those anymore. Everything has to affirm. That is the obsession with the left. Everything that they do has got to be affirmed by something. Have you noticed this? It's got to be affirmed by a product. It's got to be affirmed by other people against your will. Everything has to validate their choices. Are you so insecure that you have to have... Your, you know, butter? Affirm you? Or your mouthwash? Have you seen, like, the rainbow mouthwash? Are we past the gay pride month? Where it's all marketing, gay, everything? I think it's coming up. Oh, no. Did I speak too soon? Oh, no.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think it's June. For some reason, I'm thinking.
SPEAKER 21 :
No, really? Why did I ask? Where it's like, I can't even use this mouthwash unless it affirms the way I like to get it on. I can't use this. I mean, it's just so stupid.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's confirmed. June is widely recognized.
SPEAKER 21 :
Why is it a whole month?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's Pride Month.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, Memorial Day. Veterans. People killed in action. They get a day.
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe a weekend.
SPEAKER 21 :
You get a whole month because you choose to, how you choose to have sex? That's so stupid. Oh, well, I don't like cilantro. I love cilantro, but there are people out there who are like, I think cilantro tastes like soap. I need a whole month of recognition for me. It's the same. It's just so goofy. Why? We have more on the way.
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I like doing the voices in places where people can't see me, like drive-thrus. Oh, I'm evil at a drive-thru, man, except the one by my house because they know me. How can I help you? Yeah, let me help. Pull up.
SPEAKER 11 :
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 21 :
Check out this crazy story. This is insane. Have you ever had your kids say there's a monster under the bed? Okay, well, a babysitter in Kansas, per CBS, found a troubling surprise after a child she was watching complained that there was a monster hiding under the bed. So the babysitter, you know, in an attempt to show the children that there was no monster under the bed, lifted up the bed covering and came face to face with the Dude who was hiding under the bed, according to the sheriff's office. The deputies arrived at the home just outside of the city of Great Bend, 10.30 p.m. on a Monday. Deputies arrived. Babysitter said the man was discovered. There was an altercation. The babysitter and the child were knocked over during the scuffle, and the suspect fled. They did catch up to him the next day. Martin Villalobos, 27, was arrested and booked into the Barton County Jail on multiple charges, including aggravated kidnapping and child endangerment. He's being held on half a million dollars bond. There was a current protection order already issued against him. He once lived on the property. He was ordered previously to stay away from the property. Now he's in big time trouble. That's just crazy. Super creepy. Good night. Just, oh my word. I'm glad everybody's okay, but... Yeah, I'm going to check under my bed now. Also... This United Airlines flight had to divert because a pilot forgot the password. They forgot. I guess it was something that you have to log into as you're going. It was a Boeing and they were they were coming in. They didn't have the passport on them. Everything got messed up.
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Why won't you apologize? I put out a statement. I did not apologize. So read my statement. I did read it. I did not apologize. Okay. Well, I'm done with this. You don't feel bad about making fun of someone? I'm done. I'm done.
SPEAKER 21 :
So she's not wanting to... apologize that was Jasmine Crockett who doesn't want to apologize for I guess calling Texas Governor Greg Abbott hot wheels. Although, if I'm being honest, I probably would make myself a trading card and put myself with the Matchbox logo. At this point, just weaponize it. Weaponize the hate. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. It's a weird news week. Congress is out of session right now, or they're not doing anything of importance. They're in their home districts right now. I think that she needs to talk as much as possible. I like her as the avatar of the Democrat Party. I want more Jasmine Crockett. I want more meanness. I read another new piece today where the base is apparently begging their party leadership And every they feel like they're justified in asking for this because every single time, every day, you know, we've got either like this. I have, you know, like the headline that has to do with POTUS and and. Yeah. either with the tariffs, the auto tariffs, or the recommended cuts, or this executive order, or like this one. Now it came out that the HHS secretary is going to, he's planning for a 10,000 number, 10,000 job cuts in a major restructuring of the health department. Now this is, ugh. Now they're like, they hate FEMA, they hate all this. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. Check out this New York Times headline. This published 15 minutes ago. Musk targeted FEMA. Disaster stricken communities are paying a price. I am not even kidding you. This is the headline. It literally just published. This is the headline. Read that headline, Kane. Musk targeted FEMA. Disaster stricken communities are paying the price. That's the headline. Just now. And already it has, oh my gosh, they're going to amplify this to the nth degree. Remind me. who was in the White House when the hurricanes rolled in?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, that was definitely Biden.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. And all that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Musk wasn't in charge. There wasn't a Doge.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nope.
SPEAKER 21 :
Where are they getting this headline from? So they're saying that Musk now running Doge and handling all of this is the He somehow was able, he's so powerful that he went back in time and that's why FEMA messed up all the hurricane stuff is because now Musk is at Doge and making recommendations and he's so powerful. Again, it reverberated back in time. That's what they're arguing, Cain. So the bigger story here is time travel. That's what I'm hearing. That's the bigger story is time travel. This is actually a headline. It just published. It's an ongoing... It's like they're a forever updating piece. So they think that because... you know, he's cost-cutting, and they're mad because FEMA is next. They said it's retribution. The way the New York Times puts it, and I'm reading this just now because it just hit. The way the New York Times puts it is that because FEMA provided $59 million to house illegal immigrants in New York City, $59 million to house illegal immigrants in New York City, $59 million to hire illegal immigrants in New York City. And I know combat veterans who have to fight the VA just to get the coverage that they deserve. Because now they're auditing FEMA, it is being viewed as they hate hurricane victims. Do they hate hurricane victims more or less than the FEMA agency itself that was telling people, oh, here's your $700, but you've got to pay it back? Or they stopped volunteer choppers from bringing in supplies? Or they just didn't help anybody at all? I'm curious. Cain, you're about to explode.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's so rich. It's so rich. Knowing that the last few disasters that we've experienced as a country, FEMA has grossly underperformed. Not only underperformed, but we even had those stories of recommendations from FEMA to be skipping houses that had Trump flags and things like that. Why are we even... entertaining this entity who clearly has underperformed has only taken in a ton of money given us very little in return uh i i would argue that these disaster stricken communities that uh the new york times is talking about um they have actually been targeted by fema in a negative way for quite a while oh yeah i think i think you're right can i read can i read this paragraph to you
SPEAKER 21 :
Get ready to vomit.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 21 :
So this comes after they're talking about Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. And he's looking at all these. Here's the paragraph. Quote, The layoffs are a drastic reduction in personnel for the sprawling health department, which now employs about 82,000 people and touches the lives of every American through its oversight of medical care and food and drugs. You got touched. Wait, 82,000 people. 82,000 people. That is bigger than the town in which I grew up by 80 times. Not kidding. What? The town I was born and raised for maybe up until seventh grade. bigger than that town. Actually, it's bigger than the town I went to high school in. That's a city. That's a city. 82,000 people and that's just HHS. Why do you have to have 82,000 people at that government agency? How many people does it take to do nothing?
SPEAKER 12 :
Dana, I'm really upset. I'm going to send out this email. I listen to your show. I work for FEMA.
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm going to get one of these.
SPEAKER 12 :
I work for FEMA.
SPEAKER 21 :
How dare you criticize my government agency? It does so much for people. Really, tell that to the people who were just awash in mudslides out in the Carolinas after Hurricane Helene. And you know who's been out there being the FEMA? The Amish. Do you see that the Amish built over like 100 bridges? Rebuilding these bridges, going out there. They put up all these temporary homes. The Amish. The Amish rolled in like the goth superstars they are. Rolled in and they just started like going to town, building everything. They had all the supplies, all the know-how. I mean, it's... Pretty amazing.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's the beauty of the local community coming through. This is the problem with FEMA. And someone made this point with the L.A. fires, too, is that these FEMA representatives are coming from all kinds of different parts of the country. They have no real clue as to what the locals actually need after these disasters. So it would be actually smarter to lean on the local community in that regard and forget FEMA coming from a different state to try and help out. They'll have no clue.
SPEAKER 21 :
Mm hmm. I read this one. They were saying that the, listen to this, FEMA kind of hat-tipped them. Voluntary agency liaisons play a vital role in response efforts for Hurricanes Helene and Milton. And they even mentioned that there were tons of bridges that need to be rebuilt. They had, they talked about all of these, I mean, there's a ton of different non-governmental, and they're not partnering with the government. They're just volunteer organizations. You had the Mennonites that came out How amazing. It's like a movie. It is like a movie. Like your bridges are destroyed. I was reading this paper out of Asheville, North Carolina. And this story, can I just share the story with you? It's amazing. They say that on October 2nd, Sherry Norton was using a small wooden plank to get to work. It was the only way out of her home and to U.S. Route 64 after Tropical Storm Helene. The bridge, little concrete superstructure that supported access to their home, installed after a previous flood, had fully collapsed into Reedy Patch Creek, a tributary that meets a broad river near Bat Cave and then goes through Chimney Rock to Lake Lure. And they had flooding. They had, you know, mudslides, all of it. And they were one of just many thousands of families that lost their primary access point after the storm. She said that, you know, we thought we built the bridge for the last time. Helene thought otherwise. And they the article discusses the Norton's and many others that were not even able to get in and out of their homes or even get to work or even get to town or anywhere else. So you had a collaboration. Listen to this. It's a thing called bridging together. It was a collaboration between the Mennonite Disaster Service, the Lutheran Disaster Response Carolinas, a bunch of Amish people, all of this. And they said that they had it was one of the first now of a ton of different permanent bridges installed by the organizations. It is this amazing. All volunteers that were coming out and doing this. Kane notes, too, they had dozens of Amish men travel hundreds of miles to repair homes and build roads in the wake of Helene. I know a lot of people that actually went out there and have been doing that, too. They've had Just for Him Ministries based in Indiana. And they went out. They were repairing homes and infrastructure all the way from Kentucky to Pennsylvania, going to the Carolinas. It's amazing. And they do it fast. Yeah, you're right. You see, like regular... Like I, like myself, I would, you know, like, you know, be helping out. I'm not allowed to use power tools for my safety and the safety of those around me. They're really fun, though. I love that. There's something about this is so great. I'm not allowed to use them after the unfortunate hanging picture disaster of 2017. Yeah. You know, those things go real easy through drywall, right? I'm like, this might be more easier than a hammer. It's not. Anyway, long story short, it's not about me. So I would be in people's way in a certain amount of things. Like there's some things I can do and then there's some things I can do and I'm not good at it. There's, you know, and... Probably in the time it would take me to nail two planks together, they would literally build a house, like a fully furnished home. And then you have the Amish men throw it up there and you get ladies come in and they're doing the landscaping and putting the dishes in the cupboards, all this stuff. It's just amazing what they're doing. No government involved. So back to my FEMA point. Where was FEMA? I didn't see no FEMA workers down there with the Amish. Did you? I didn't see him. I've been over there building all kinds of bridges and with the men. And I mean, I love that these people are stuck in the mud. And then out of the hills come all these private citizens with all their tools and supplies. It's a movie. It's a movie. So yeah, I think absolutely. 82,000 people and it was all the Amish and the Christians, all the Christians and the different sects and the Mennonites and I don't know, everybody's coming out.
SPEAKER 09 :
I just feel like that's... I did see FEMA out there when they were stopping people.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh yeah, that's right, Cain. When they were hopefully stopping the resources, like drinking water from getting to the people that needed it.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's when I saw FEMA.
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Welcome back to the program. Make sure you sign up for the newsletter over at Substack. Chapter and verse, lots of stuff comes out there on the regular. I'm trying to understand, you just sent this to me. So this is the Ontario Premier Doug Ford, who apparently this just came out. He...
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play this it's only like 14 seconds it was going to be today i'm sorry i'm stealing it that's all right i just like i totally messed you over yesterday you can't drop a gem like this on my lap and be like hands off dana go ahead go this is the doug ford of canada not but i can assure you one thing uh we're gonna make sure that we inflict as much pain as possible uh to the american people without inflicting uh pain on the canadian population
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bold strategy there yeah bold move there cotton what in the it sounds like they're they don't sound friendly i thought they were supposed to be nice like a and here's some maple syrup and look at our canucks you know i don't know like that's a different canada now It is. It's a different Canada. So they said now he's blanked around and they're saying that they're going to inflict as much. What does that mean? I guess like monetarily. What do we get from Canada?
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Energy.
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Besides like Justin Bieber and Alanis Morissette. What do we get from Canada? I love you Canadians. I like Pierre Polivere, but don't mess.
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Brian Adams and Tim Hortons.
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What is Tim Hortons? I mean, I've heard of it, but I've never seen one.
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It's like the Canadian Dunkin' Donuts.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, anyway. Well, yeah, what have we gotten? Hockey. Don't mess. I mean, I love Canadians, and there are, well, the conservative ones, and I like the pure polyvere, but, you know.
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Well, we can use a different Canadian for stupidity today. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Before I rob you of your time again. Go ahead and play Cut 16 because this is what, and I'm going to forget her name, but listen to what she says here. Listen to this.
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Our retaliation is going to be surgically targeted to create the maximum pressure on the White House to stop what the Wall Street Journal has described quite rightly as the dumbest trade war in history. An example of a measure that I will put in place as prime minister is 100% tariffs on Teslas. I think that should get some attention in the White House.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think so. Here's why it's stupid. We have reciprocal tariffs coming up April 2nd. That's Tuesday. So you're going to impose your own increase on your own cars.
SPEAKER 21 :
Great job. Great job on that. Yeah, you're just going to. She doesn't understand how all this works. She doesn't understand how all this works. Like we're going to keep punishing you. But if you try to, you know. reciprocate in order to make things more fair. We're going to play victim. That's all I heard from her. Folks, that does it for us today. I'll be up on Fox coming up with Will Kane here shortly. Make sure you tune in. In the meantime, Facebook, YouTube, Substack, like and subscribe. I'll be back with you tomorrow.
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I like doing the voices in places where people can't see me, like drive-thrus.
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This episode of Washington Watch shines a spotlight on significant religious freedom challenges worldwide, focusing on Saudi Arabia and Nigeria. Travis Weber and Congressman Chris Smith provide critical insights into recent reports by the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, offering a sobering look at global persecutions and the essential steps being taken to elevate human rights and dignity.
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I'm deeply concerned about encroachment in the Western Hemisphere, not just by China, but other adversaries like Russia and Iran. I'm afraid we focus so much of our attention across the world that we've lost sight of our own neighborhood, leading to the anti-American regimes gaining permanent footholds within striking distance of the homeland,
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That was Congressman Rick Crawford, chairman of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, yesterday during the committee's annual worldwide threats assessment hearing. Welcome to this Thursday edition of Washington Watch. We're glad you've joined us. Well, coming up, we'll look at the highlights of yesterday's threat assessment hearing with Ryan King, national politics reporter for the New York Post. And pro-life activists were on Capitol Hill today calling for an end to government funding for Planned Parenthood.
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Every year about six to seven hundred million dollars flows from the U.S. taxpayers to Planned Parenthood. That must end. Reconciliation legislation offers an important opportunity to stop funding abortion purveyors like Planned Parenthood. And this is an opportunity we cannot afford to miss.
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That was New Jersey Congressman Chris Smith, co-chair of the House Pro-Life Caucus. He was at a press conference this afternoon. I was there along with several other pro-life leaders. Congressman Smith joins us later here on Washington Watch. A key conservative senator says President Trump's nominee for Medicare and Medicaid services, Dr. Oz, is being evasive regarding his past promotion of transgender surgeries and the use of experimental drugs for minors. We'll hear from the senator himself, Missouri Senator Josh Ali, will join us later on this edition of Washington Watch. Plus, the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom released its annual report this week highlighting global hotspots of religious persecution. FRC's Travis Weber will stop by with more details on that report a little later. All of that and more coming up on this edition of Washington Watch. I do want to encourage you, if you have not yet downloaded the Stand Firm app, where you can have Washington Watch right there in your pocket each and every day, along with the Washington Stand, our news and commentary from a biblical perspective, along with our daily commentary, our Bible devotional commentary, which is Stand on the Word. You can get it all at the App Store by downloading the Stand Firm app. All right, before we go to our first guest, I want to bring in FRC's Kena Gonzalez, Senior Director of Government Affairs, who has been on Capitol Hill today facilitating a lobbying day on the defunding of Planned Parenthood. Kena, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's great to be back, Tony.
SPEAKER 10 :
I see you changed out of your lobbying attire, your defund T-shirt, and you're back into a suit and tie.
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I felt I had to rise to the occasion, but yes, I was in a big defund, big abortion t-shirt along with 350 other pro-life activists who came out, many of them from out of town, most of them from out of town, with strollers, whole families were lobbying on Capitol Hill. It was beautiful.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, tell us about, we know the bottom line is defund Planned Parenthood. Last year, the last number is available, about $700 million flowing into their coffers of taxpayer money. What are the vehicles? What are we asking people to do when they talk to their members of Congress?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, there are several vehicles on the Hill right now, but as viewers of this program know very well, we're in a very closely divided Congress. And so if one or two or three congressional Republicans in either the House or the Senate object to any particular of a bill, they can kill it. And in the Senate, you have to get Democrats to vote with Republicans because there's not a large enough majority there to carry most votes. without uh without democrats in order to reach that 60 vote threshold that's required for most votes in the senate but on the budget there is a vehicle called reconciliation where you only need 51 votes in the senate and of course you need 50 plus one in the house and if those two bills those two budget bills can reconcile and move on reconciliation there's a lot you can do including defunding big abortion, and that's what today was all about, was to talk to Republican members about the importance of using Republican votes to defund big abortion providers like Planned Parenthood.
SPEAKER 10 :
So this could become reality?
SPEAKER 03 :
This could actually happen. For the first time really since 2017, we have a fighting shot at taking away, as you said, almost $700 million a year at last count from America's biggest abortion providers.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. Well, great job today on Capitol Hill, Kana, and thanks for giving us an update. And folks, you can track this in real time and take action as necessary. Because remember, our republic was not made for spectators. It was made for participants. If you have the Stand Firm app, you can actually get notifications from Kena and his team when you need to lean in with your member of Congress and we give you all the talking points and everything you need. So get the Stand Firm app and activate the notifications on it. All right. Well, yesterday, as I mentioned, the House Intelligence Committee held an open hearing to examine the 2025 annual threats assessment. The topics range from the American war on terror to drug cartels to the infamous signal chat, which multiple government officials, especially Democrats, wanted to focus on. But. What else did the hearing address? What are the international threats which demand American attention now? Well, here to discuss this, Ryan King, the politics reporter at the New York Post, who covered yesterday's hearing and the one in the Senate the day before. Ryan, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Hi, thanks for having me. So besides the signal chat discussions, what were some of your takeaways from yesterday's hearing in the House?
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One of the big takeaways was the concern that the intelligence community has that U.S. adversaries, including China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, are working – collectively in part to counter the U.S. and undermine America abroad. There was also a lot of emphasis on non-state actors, including cartels and other groups that have hurt U.S. national security. There was talk, too, about the opioid crisis and about how synthetic opioids have killed over 56,000 Americans last year. So there are a variety of threats. And I think that the intelligence community is in a state of alarm right now about where the world is at.
SPEAKER 10 :
So I do want to just address the signal chat for a moment because that did seem to consume a lot of time in the hearing of both the House and the Senate. How much time was spent on that versus these major threats that are facing our country right now?
SPEAKER 06 :
I'd say between both the Senate and House hearings, almost half the time, roughly, it was basically a situation where Republicans would tend to focus on the national annual threat assessment and then Democrats would go back to the signal controversy. So about half the time was dedicated to the signal issue. And again, the hearing had been initially intended to focus on national threats.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, Ryan, I want to get your take on that. What do you think this signal, I mean, I know the media has been continuing to pound on it. Does this have legs or does it go away?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think that's going to stick around for a little bit because there are multiple lawmakers that have pushed for investigations into it. And it's something that Democrats, I think, are very unlikely to forget. So it might like kind of go to the back burner for a little bit. But I think that this is something that Democrats are going to be interested in revisiting. And I think one thing that'll be interesting, too, is there's a trip right now featuring the vice president, the second lady and national security adviser Mike Waltz to Greenland. So I think that that'll be interesting to see how that goes with Waltz going to Greenland after he had been the guy that admitted to inadvertently adding the Atlantic editor in chief to that signal chat.
SPEAKER 10 :
So let's go back to the threats. In looking at and laying out the various threats, was there a sense of what is the greatest threat right now, what we need to have our eye on right now? I mean, there's multiple threats, but did any rise above the others?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the report described China as being the most capable threat against the United States, but it was basically suggesting that China, of the four main adversaries against the U.S., has been the least adversarial in terms of aggressive actions. So it was kind of describing China as one of the biggest threats And then as like an ongoing threat, I think it was really focusing on non-state actors like the cartels and the impact that these groups can have on the U.S.
SPEAKER 10 :
Speaking of the cartels, since the Trump administration has been in, there's been obviously a crackdown on the border. Is there any measurable difference in terms of the cartel activity, the fentanyl coming across the border?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, there was a recent study by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill that had suggested, based on some preliminary data from last year, that we've peaked in terms of deaths from fentanyl. So that's very early data, but that is a little bit reassuring. And then we've also seen from the encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border that they have plummeted very significantly relative to last year under the Biden administration. And the Trump administration has announced a number of pretty high profile arrests when it comes to some of the cartels and gang members.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. For instance, this morning, an MS-13 leader was arrested in Virginia, apparently a leader in a region, including Virginia. So is there any sense that, all right, we've we've kind of stopped the flow of them coming in and now it is a mop up, clean up operation, getting those that are in the country that pose a threat and getting them out?
SPEAKER 06 :
It's hard to say for sure. I mean, right now it kind of looks like it's the latter. It looks like the big problem has kind of been kind of abating a bit. And now the Trump administration is kind of focusing on just kind of cleaning up the rest of it. But it is hard to say right now because it's still pretty early.
SPEAKER 10 :
What was the discussion regarding Iran and their nuclear capabilities?
SPEAKER 06 :
So one thing that the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, had told both the House and the Senate Intelligence Committees is that the Intelligence Committee assesses that Iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapon. It was a pretty interesting claim from Gabbard. She said that this is something that they're monitoring very closely, and she also cautioned that Iran has the highest levels of enriched uranium that they have had and that they have much higher levels of enriched uranium than they would need to pursue a peaceful nuclear energy program.
SPEAKER 10 :
Very interesting. Any surprises for you, Ryan, that you took away that you thought, oh, because I know your track is keep your finger on the pulse. Anything that really surprised you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, two things. First was what actually we just mentioned about what Gabbard said about Iran, that assessment that Iran isn't pursuing a nuclear weapon. That's quite a bit different than what we normally hear. And then the second thing, I think, with the signal chat was both Tulsi Gabbard and the CIA director, John Ratcliffe, had been. saying that they personally didn't share classified information. And it seemed like Democrats were really going after them about how they were describing that. Both of them were trying to suggest that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth was the one that would have been tasked with determining whether or not the information shared on the Signal chat that leaked was classified or not. So I think that that's something that could be revisited in the future.
SPEAKER 10 :
Very interesting. Well, Ryan, thanks so much for joining us. By the way, are you on Signal? Yes. Admittedly, yes. All right. Well, so am I. I'll call you later on Signal. All right. Thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate the insights and observations.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks for having me. And folks, another reason to pray. It's a dangerous world out there. All right. Don't go away. We're going to be joined by Josh Hawley next on Washington Morning.
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At Family Research Council, we believe religious freedom is a fundamental human right that all governments must protect. That's why FRC President Tony Perkins went to Capitol Hill to testify on behalf of persecuted Christians in Nigeria. Islamist terror groups target Christians and other religious minorities in Nigeria with brutal violence. Representative Chris Smith, who chaired the hearing, said 55,000 people have been killed and 21,000 abducted in the last five years alone. The congressman also stressed that 89% of Christians in the world who are martyred are from Nigeria.
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Redesignating Nigeria will enable the U.S. government to pressure Nigerian leaders to protect vulnerable Christians.
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These are not just numbers. These are fathers, their mothers, their children, their families.
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Bishop Wilfred Anagabe risked his life to speak out, sharing firsthand accounts of the danger faced in his church district in central Nigeria.
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We live in fear because at any point it can be our turn to be killed. But to remain silent is to die twice. So I have chosen to speak.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us on this Thursday. All right. President Trump's nominees continue to plow through the congressional confirmation process. I mean, he's got them in the pipeline. But there's been a few that have raised concerns, and there's one right now that's raised particular concerns. Dr. Oz, the TV personality nominated to lead the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Some Republicans worry about his views on transgender surgery on kids as well as abortion, considering he had previously voiced support for them in the past. Has Dr. Oz changed his mind on these issues or is he evading really answering where he stands on these issues. Here to discuss this is one of the senators that has raised this issue quite successfully, Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri. He serves on four Senate committees, including the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. Senator Hawley joins us by phone. Senator, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. You've raised this concern about Dr. Oz. You've asked him questions before the committee regarding his positions on these issues such as abortion and transgender surgeries for children. What has been his answer?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, so far, no answers, Tony. And I want to be clear on this. This is the position I've taken with all of the president's nominees. I want to make sure that all these folks are supporting the president, that they are aligned with the agenda that the president ran on. You know, we saw in his first term, there were quite a number of people who slipped through, who then got into their positions and actively undermined what Donald Trump had ran on. I don't want to see that. And I'm not going to vote for somebody who I think is going to undermine the president's agenda. So in this case, When it comes to transgender surgeries for minors, I'm just dead set against them, and so is the president. When it comes to hormone treatments and puberty blockers for minors, I think that's wrong. So does the president. And the problem is Dr. Oz has supported that stuff in the past. And I'd just like to know, is that still his position? I'd like to be sure that he is in alignment with President Trump. And I can't vote for him until I am sure about that. Ditto on life issues. You know, in the past, as you said a moment ago, Dr. Oz has criticized state laws that protect life. But, of course, we have the Dobbs decision thanks to President Trump and the justices he put on the bench. I want to know that Dr. Oz supports the Dobbs decision and supports the right of the voters to decide these issues, the people and their elected representatives to decide the life issue and to protect life. I think that is absolutely vital.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and as you've said, you have been consistent in asking the various nominees these questions as they've come before your committees. But let me ask you, what exactly did you ask Dr. Oz and what was his response?
SPEAKER 09 :
I asked him if he changed his views on transgender surgeries and treatments for minors, which he has supported in the past. You know, you mentioned, of course, he had that TV show for years and he'd had doctors on there that perform transgender treatments. people who had gone through transitions, so-called, including children, and had been very supportive of all of that on his show, and as recently as 2022 said that he supported hormone treatments and puberty blockers for minors. Now, that's not the president's position. It's certainly not mine. So I just asked him straight up, have you changed your mind? And I would hope the answer is easy. Yes. I hope he'd say, I don't support any of that. I'm in line with President Trump. I asked him the same questions on life. I pointed out that he's criticized state laws protecting life. And I just asked him, listen, do you support Dobbs? And do you support the right of the people and their elected representatives to protect life? It's an easy question. I mean it's just asking, do you support Trump's position? Do you support the position of Republican voters nationwide? And he hasn't answered me at all, Tony, which I find a little bit strange. I hope it's just a matter of processing some paperwork or something. But I can't support him until I know that he is going to be strong and going to be in alignment with the president.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, have you sat down with him as you have some of the other nominees?
SPEAKER 09 :
I have not. I'm not on the committee that voted on him, and that's a reason I didn't get to ask him questions in the hearing. So I've sent him written questions. Happy to talk with him, of course, personally. I don't know him personally at all. But sooner or later, I think we need to get answers on this. Certainly, I do. And I just say again, it's important to me that people who want a job in this administration at any level, and of course, I've voted for all the president's cabinet nominees, but some people say, oh, well, this is a lower position, doesn't matter. Now, actually, I think every position is important, and anybody who wants a job at any level in this administration needs to support the platform the president ran on, needs to support what we believe in as conservatives, and needs to support the president's positions.
SPEAKER 10 :
Isn't it normal practice that these, I know they start with the committees and they make their rounds meeting with the members of the committees to have the conversations and to make sure there are no issues. But, you know, when you've been a very clear outspoken voice in the Senate on the life issue, on the issue of protecting children from these invasive, irreversible surgeries and experimental drugs, wouldn't it be appropriate for him to communicate with you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I would think so. I mean, it's easy to answer questions and listen. I mean, senators do this all the time. I do this all the time. And you might remember, we talked about when I sat down with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and I had a lot of the same questions for him. And I put these same questions to him, and he answered them very forthrightly, both to me personally, and then again in public under oath. I asked him in his committee hearing, directly about all of these same things we've been talking about, and he answered them directly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Which helped his confirmation.
SPEAKER 09 :
On that basis, I voted for him, Tony. I mean, it was critical to his confirmation. I needed to know that he was in alignment with the president, and he did not hesitate to to take the clear stance that he would, and that involved, frankly, in Kennedy's case, renouncing some of his past views. So this is pretty standard, and I'm a little surprised Oz hasn't done it, but there's still time, and we'll see what he says.
SPEAKER 10 :
We just have about a minute and a half left, but a spokesman for Dr. Oz told the Daily Wire that he understands the harms of these transgender surgeries, and that he is, quote, committed to implementing President Trump's agenda for protecting children. But that's coming from a spokesman, not... him. Is that a concern?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, it is a concern. Listen, I'm glad that unnamed spokespersons are willing to issue those statements. I would hope they'd say that, because again, these are the president's positions. But really, we need to hear from the nominee himself. He wants to have a very important position in the government, and we need to hear from him directly. Is he in alignment with what the president has pledged and committed to, what he ran on? And if the answer to that is not yes, then I can't support him. And we need to hear soon.
SPEAKER 10 :
Senator Josh Hawley, appreciate you fighting the good fight on Capitol Hill, standing up for life, standing up for children, protecting them from the dangers of these experimental treatments that are designed to advance this radical gender ideology. So thanks for joining us today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 10 :
And folks, these are things you need to weigh in on with your senators. If a nominee comes down on the wrong side of it, we need to weigh in on it. All right, coming up next, we're going to talk to Travis Weber, get a little insight into the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedoms. Annual report released this week, so don't go away.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Glad you're with us. Earlier this week, the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, of which I chaired a few years ago, released their annual report detailing trouble areas in the realm of international religious freedom. We're going to talk about this a little bit later with Congressman Chris Smith when he joins us because they've made some recommendations regarding Nigeria, Vietnam, India. But I want to focus on one particular area that is once again in the report, Saudi Arabia. They have been recognized as a country of particular concern. And the commission is once again recommending that they be a country of particular concern. And one of the things that's being highlighted is their educational materials, whether what they're teaching in their schools and what they're putting out in their textbooks, which are being exported. And given the fact that Saudi Arabia is kind of really at the center stage of world events right now with the negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, and they will probably play a key role in the area of Gaza once that war between Hamas and Israel is over. So here to take a little deeper dive into why Saudi Arabia is a country of particular concern is Family Research Council's Vice President for Policy and Government Affairs, Travis Weber. Travis, welcome back to the program. Thank you, Tony. All right. So lay out for our viewers and our listeners why Saudi Arabia is such a problematic nation.
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Yeah, well, Tony, as the USURF report, which was recently released, lays out, it again recommends Saudi Arabia for inclusion on the list of countries of particular concern. And it lays out its reasons for that. Among those include a generally oppressive, authoritarian government that's driven by an Islamist ideology. And it lists examples of of prosecuting and oppressing religious dissidents, those who would speak up against the regime out of a religious motivation. Some of these are Shia Muslims or atheists. Crackdowns on social media speech along those similar lines. It talks about the oppressive treatment of women in the kingdom, but it also discusses the issue of the textbooks and the indoctrination that takes place within Saudi Arabia, despite attempts to reform this, calls for reform going back to 2006, when there's a lot of attention on this. Anita Shea done a lot of work on it. I mean, there were hearings 10 years after that was exposed in 2017 before Congress, where members of Congress were saying there's not been progress. So even to this point, as the USURF report recognizes, there is not yet sufficient reform to align with a Western ideology a good standard of what we would want people to be educated along the lines of freedom, true human rights, a true recognition of their human dignity.
SPEAKER 10 :
So just to be very clear, we're not expecting Saudi Arabia to be United States of America. But let's let's just take a comparison. in that region of the world. It's an Islamic country. The United Arab Emirates is one as well. However, they get high marks on religious freedom because they have churches of many different denominations that operate within the UAE. How many churches are in Saudi Arabia?
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There's no public churches in the land. None? There's none. So there's not a true, that's just, what does that equal? It equals no religious freedom. Because if we compare that to the U.S. model, where our declaration proclaims freedom of conscience and recognition of the humanity of all people, allowing them the freedom to live out their faith and publicly worship, clear contrast, right? And you can use words of inclusion, dialogue, interfaith, none of that equals religious freedom.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, Saudi Arabia, the reason it's of concern is it is the most wealthy ISLAMIC NATION, AND THEY FUND NOT ONLY MOSQUES AROUND THE WORLD, IN FACT, SOME OF THE UNITED STATES, THE WAHABI MOSQUES, WHICH ARE VERY EXTREME, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS, WE JUST HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT HERE, TRAVIS, BUT THE TEXTBOOKS This has long been a problem, even going back before I was on the Commission, when I was on the Commission. They're supposed to have reformed these textbooks, but they still fall short of recognizing others outside the Islamic faith as human beings.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, if we quote from the USURF report, official textbooks continue to compare members of non-Muslim religions to maimed animals and contend that atheism results in psychological disorders. That can, the equation of human beings and the imagery and equating us, that's just equating us to animals that's still in the books. And we know from reports about the books that have been used in Gaza, the same language is in there. In all the lessons, Jews are equated to pigs and it's ingrained into the system.
SPEAKER 10 :
So in Gaza, this has been an issue we've talked about under the Palestinian Authority. This has been done through the United Nations, through UNRWA. They have been funding the education system in Israel under the Palestinian Authority. The concern here is that Saudi Arabia may be looked to to be a partner with or a resource in reestablishing or rebuilding the education system in Gaza once the war is over.
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So we have to look at that and say, what is going to come in? You know, we know all the focus on UNRWA, the inclusion of Hamas terrorists in the UNRWA ranks, in the educational ranks. And just this month, a report came out from a group called Impact SC examining education in Gaza, still finding lessons, equating Jews to pigs and talking about bringing blood on the land and TRAINING CHILDREN TO RECEIVE AND ADOPT THESE IDEOLOGIES, INCLUDING BRINGING THEM TO MATH LESSONS. SO AS THE TIMES OF ISRAEL IS REPORTING, EVEN TODAY ABOUT THIS REPORT, AS GAZEN IS RETURNING TO SCHOOL LAST MONTH, THIS IS IN, THIS IS A LIVE ISSUE, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOUNDATION, IF IT'S REBUILT, IS NOT BUILT ON FAULTY GROUND.
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I MEAN, OCTOBER 7TH IS A RESULT OF WHAT CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TAUGHT OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES. IT DOESN'T COME FROM NOWHERE. YEAH. TRAVIS WEBER, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU. All right, folks, on the other side of the break, we're going to be joined by New Jersey Congressman Chris Smith. We're going to talk about the effort to defund Planned Parenthood. So don't go away. More Washington Watch straight ahead.
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Tony, thank you so very much. And I thought your statements today, you know, the waste, fraud and abuse, the way you framed that was outstanding. Thank you for your leadership. And again, thank you for your very wise comments at that press conference.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thank you, Congressman. You actually have the bill to defund Planned Parenthood. You've been advocating for this for a long time, but it looks like this could be the moment.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think we are poised if we have the courage and we could be close with a couple of votes, but hopefully people will be persuaded to put this into the reconciliation package, which does not require a super majority on the Senate side. So the filibuster has no power over this initiative. And our leadership, I think, is very committed. to ensuring that a group called Planned Parenthood that has themselves in their affiliates and their affiliates performed over 10 million abortions since 1973. I mean, that is a numbing loss of children's lives. And of course, we know what it does to the women. And one of our speakers, as you heard, we all heard, she went right after I spoke and you, I should say, she talked about her experience going in to a Planned Parenthood clinic She got the abortion pill. She was treated shoddily. And then when she had complications, they didn't want to hear a thing about it. And more and more reports are coming out that women are ill-treated and botched abortions, like we saw in the New York Times piece. And the loss of life every single day, over 1,000 babies are killed in just one organization's clinics, and that's Planned Parenthood.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, Congressman, you and I are both opposed to abortion. We want the nation to embrace life. But what we're talking about here is government-funded going to organizations that perform abortions. In the last recorded numbers that Planned Parenthood has put out from 23 and 24, they received just shy of $700 million in taxpayer dollars. That's almost a billion dollars coming from taxpayers. Now, this was on the heels of them raising almost $500 million after the overturn of Roe. None of that money went to clinics. All of that went to their political campaigns. I mean, how is it that an organization like this can get all of this tax money and then turn around and use it in campaigns?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, they really are shameful with regards to that. They distort people's voting records. They're very aggressive with their 30-second ads and their direct mail and all the other things that they do. And it's about time that every pro-life advocate in Congress and everywhere else realizes that they not only kill babies, They are a very deceptive organization that tries to defeat pro-life lawmakers as well. And I remember trying to persuade George W. Bush to defund Planned Parenthood, and they said, look, if you can't do it because of their anti-child policies and anti-women policies, why can't you do it? Look what they did to you. And we had all these examples of how they had totally attacked him in the campaign. And the same goes for members of Congress, House and Senate. You've been the target many times.
SPEAKER 10 :
You've been the target many times by Planned Parenthood because of your outspoken pro-life views. Look, everybody has a First Amendment right. I support that. But if you are going to take taxpayer dollars, if you're direct taxpayer dollars, then how is it as an organization you engage in political advocacy in terms of candidates? I think there should be a line there. You should be able to choose one or the other.
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And there needs to be an investigation. How often do they cross the line? I remember one time in one of my campaigns, they ran this whole thing, let's turn Chris Smith around. It was done right before the election time and they had petitions and they had all of this work going on to try to defeat me. And while it was thinly disguised, it had nothing to do with turning me around because I'm not going to be turned around. I'm committed to defending life no matter what the cost is. But it got their mailing list and mobilized people. And sure enough, you know, a lot of people were responding to their deception. And it is a very deceptive organization. I can give you example after example on just how they're not trustworthy. And, you know, they're part of that whole group that says don't report adverse events. You know, unfortunately, under under. Clinton and then Obama and then under Biden, adverse events attributable to an abortion to the woman have been grossly underreported. And in some cases, they're told not to report anymore, like with the abortion pill. So when they claim it's safe, based on what?
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Right. I want to ask you about this because you've been one of the, again, not only a pro-life advocate in the House, but also human rights advocate. And sex trafficking is a huge issue globally, but here in the United States as well. There's evidence to suggest that the operations of Planned Parenthood has covered up sex trafficking by not reporting some of the minors that have come into their clinics.
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It's a very serious charge. I've written five laws, not bills, laws, including the landmark Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000. We're celebrating the 25th anniversary of that law this year. And, you know, I bristle. I get very angry when I realize that there are organizations that enable sex traffickers. There was a case that live action, and they did several of these cases, but it was in Perth Amboy, New Jersey, where I actually went to high school. And they went in with a fake pimp, and it was an undercover type of operation, and a woman purporting to be an underage woman from Latin America, Central America in particular. And in the interview, back and forth, the Planned Parenthood representative, and I've watched it and I've used it in floor debate, sits there and says, you know, we can take care of this, and, you know, they could be back on the street being exploited, my word, with their sentiment. And they didn't care. They should have been calling the cops as that sting operation was underway and should have said, you know, I'll stall them. You come and you come and arrest them. But no, they were enabling it. They even said, if you need a later term abortion, we know where that can be procured as well. And they had a clinic in northern New Jersey that they were talking about. So they enable sex trafficking. And that is very, very disturbing as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Congressman Smith, I want to get to another topic. I want to get to the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom that released their report earlier this week. But before I do that, one final question on this issue of the defunding of Planned Parenthood and the abortion providers. What do our listeners and viewers need to do?
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Well, they need to contact their congressman or congresswoman and their senators and ask them to vote to defund Planned Parenthood wherever that argument is engaged, whether it be on an appropriations bill, which will be harder to prevail on, or on this reconciliation package, which is a once-in-a-year effort which doesn't require a supermajority of votes in the Senate. And that's why we're optimistic that we have a good, God willing, good opportunity to defund Planned Parenthood this go around. And I do believe President Trump will be solidly behind this effort. He's already called for a pause on Planned Parenthood. He's done some other great things vis-a-vis funding. So Mexico City policy, for example. So call your congressman, defund Planned Parenthood and call again and call again and have others do the same thing. Because the other side is doing it. You know, I get mail the other way all the time. Emails, you know, the old style of letters that show up and phone calls. So I would strongly urge that we need to get. And if we have any any weaker links out there, members who don't want to do it. encourage them to have the courage to defend the most innocent and the most vulnerable among us unborn babies and by extension during that period of time when they're so vulnerable, the women.
SPEAKER 10 :
Folks, you can call the capital switchboards 202-224-3121. That's 202-224-3121. Also, a better option so you can take action in real time as these things are unfolding in the days and weeks ahead is to have the stand firm app and get push notifications so we can tell you who to contact, when to contact and what to say. So we make it easy for you. All right, we just have about four minutes left, Congressman Smith. And this week, USURF releasing its report. Now, last time you were on the program about three weeks ago was after a hearing you held and your subcommittee and the Foreign Affairs Committee about Nigeria. The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom once again making that recommendation that the Trump administration identify them as a country of particular concern so that measures can be taken to improve religious freedom in that country.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, Tony, thank you for testifying. You served as chairman of that very powerful commission on religious freedom. And I thank you for your leadership there. And again, your comments and the comments of our other very distinguished witnesses, including Nina Shea. We had a bishop come and testify from he flew over from Nigeria to present. And he talked about how Especially the Fulani, but also Boko Haram and other radical Islamists are killing Christians with impunity. There's no other country in the world where more Christians are killed, slaughtered simply because of their faith. In China, there are many more who are arrested. They go to prison, but they're not executed. Here we have... churches being firebombed and all the rest. So the commission that you once headed as chairman did call yesterday that there be a, you know, a designation of country of particular concern, which was a phraseology created by the great Congressman Frank Wolf. It's his law called the International Religious Freedom Act. And once they're so designated, there is a whole series of sanctions that part two designation based on the record part two is to is to sanction them uh and we would be calling on the administration to one name them speak truth to power unfortunately under biden they fecklessly dealt with human rights in on every category and on religious freedom they were horrible uh and especially as it related to nigeria uh our former secretary of state went to wabuja the capital of nigeria and just got rid of the CPC status, which is not a good status. It's a black mark on them that had been put on by Trump during his years. We need to put that on again and press hard to protect these churches and, above all, to protect the Christians from slaughter.
SPEAKER 10 :
Chris, just about a minute left. Also on that list of recommendations for CPC status was Vietnam and India, two countries that have grown increasingly hostile toward religious freedom and Christians in particular.
SPEAKER 11 :
And Nicaragua is on there as well. But you're right. Vietnam, I've gotten passed in the House of Representatives on three occasions. The Vietnam Human Rights Act. And in their narrative about Vietnam, the commission explicitly calls for passage again of my bill, the Vietnam Human Rights and Democracy Act. And also, above all, that it right now be named as CPC. They are torturing. They are forcing people to renounce their faith. This is a dictatorship. And any kind of false sense that this is part of our China card strategy needs to be jettisoned. We don't work with dictatorships that do such horrible damage to Christians. And India, of course, has one major problem after another under Modi, who's the prime minister there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Congressman Chris Smith, I want to thank you for joining us today, and again, thank you for your tremendous leadership on Capitol Hill.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you. Tony, thank you for your leadership. It's amazing.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. Chris Smith from New Jersey, great friend and great patriot. This is something to pray about, the persecution of Christians around the globe. It's intensifying, and we need to speak out with a unified voice as a nation, and we need to be praying to that end as believers. Out of time for today. Thanks for joining us. Until next time, remember the words of the Apostle Paul, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, prepared, taken your stand, keep standing.
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In today's episode of Sekulow, we delve into the breaking news of the FBI's successful raid in Woodbridge, Virginia, leading to the arrest of a top MS-13 leader. This significant action showcases the Trump administration's resolve in tackling organized crime quickly and effectively. Listen as we hear from key figures like Pam Bondi and Kash Patel, who monitored the operation live and share their insights on this remarkable victory for law enforcement. Beyond the arrest, we engage in a broader discussion about the impact of such achievements on local communities and immigrant populations. We also tackle the role of mainstream media in covering these events, with some outlets choosing to focus elsewhere. Join us as we explore these facets and invite listeners to share their thoughts, shedding light on how thorough law enforcement strengthens national security. The episode also turns its attention to NPR and PBS funding and the ongoing debate in Congress about public broadcasting. Engage with our in-depth analysis of the biases in public media and the implications for citizens and communities. This conversation extends into the broader theme of media representation and public trust.
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We got breaking news. Kash Patel unleashes the FBI in a secret successful raid.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekula.
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Welcome to Sekula. We do have some breaking news and a successful raid that happened this morning in Woodbridge, Virginia, out in the suburbs outside Washington, D.C. One of the top leaders of the MS-13 gang, again, a major... leader in drug trafficking, was caught. And now, again, this is a statement from Kash Patel, who posted, I can now confirm that earlier this morning, law enforcement personnel arrested a top MS-13 leader in Virginia. Outstanding work from AG Pambandi, our brave agents, and our partners. This is a massive victory for a safer America. Justice is coming. This, again, was a big moment also. They were there live. Pam Bondi and Kash Patel were monitoring it live. There's incredible imagery of this happening. Unfortunately, this, again, happened in a suburban area. They said lots of Easter decorations up, family area. You've been to Woodbridge many times, especially if you're driving to Washington, D.C. It's kind of on the outskirts of Washington, D.C. And this top leader, what they're saying, an alleged top East Coast leader, was only 24 years old. And that shows you really what's happening with these gangs that are coming in. Knock, knock, knock at the door. And there are the FBI and everybody coming to arrest this leader. And this happens again, a successful mission that happened this morning. And it's something that we can at least look at and go, okay. Government action, things are getting taken care of. Even Bernie Sanders said, you know, the fentanyl crisis is something that he wants to agree with President Trump on and agrees with President Trump. And I believe right now, Pam Bondi is speaking. So let's make sure we're monitoring that. Hopefully we can grab a sound bite from her of what she's talking about specifically there. She's in Manassas, Virginia.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. And we actually do have some sound from her, from a presser that they gave right after this. And I think we should hear from the attorney general right now. This is bite two.
SPEAKER 03 :
This morning, one of the top leaders of MS-13 was apprehended. He was the leader for the East Coast, one of the top three in the entire country, right here in Virginia, living half an hour outside of Washington, DC. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador, and he will not be living in our country much longer. He's in custody this morning. One of the top leaders right here near our nation's capital.
SPEAKER 07 :
And again, that is from Pan Body. And when we say Manassas, Virginia, it is essentially a suburb of Washington, D.C. And this is what's happening in the suburbs. Of course, that means that could be happening in your backyard as well. And again, I don't want to put this too lightly. There should be a lot of information that you get from this. one is that sure we're able to catch an ms-13 leader right now that also means a few months this is just a few months into a trump presidency the trump administration which means things are being taken more seriously and this is able to happen i mean we're watching kash patel they're live talking about this early early this morning this happening uh this guy 24 years old, there with a family inside the apartment. He was the only one arrested. But again, they was there with children. A scary thing to happen. I'm sure if you are one of the members of these families, if you don't know, this is what's happening under your nose as he's apprehended at 24 years old. And one of the major leaders, again, of MS-13. And maybe if people don't know MS-13, again, this is one of the big drug trafficking organizations, big trafficking organization that you hear about all the time.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. And once again, I want to reiterate what you said. This is only two months into the presidency and they were able to get one of the top three leaders of this gang. And we're going to talk about it in the next segment with Rick Grinnell, what it means now that we have law enforcement actually going after the bad guys again, shutting down these operations and how quickly they were able to do this. They were able to get this operational intel and be able to execute this with no one getting harmed. And now they have someone in custody. I mean, it's remarkable that it happened, but it also begs the question, what was going on the last four years?
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Yep. Phone lines are open for you. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Action is happening. 1-800-684-3110. Once again, 1-800-684-3110. We only got a few days left here at our March Life and Liberty Drive. This is the time where we urgently need your tax deductible gift. Give now and your donation is doubled. Scan that QR code. Take your calls coming up. I'm Rick Grinnell. Welcome back to the show. Rick Grinnell is joining us live. Beautiful shot, by the way, Rick. It looks amazing right now. But of course, we are celebrating in some ways because these are the big moments that happen. This is what we've got to be paying attention to because when you have a change in administration and you want to see proof that things are getting done differently, here they are. This morning, around 6 a.m. East Coast time. You had Kash Patel, Pam Bondi in there making this arrest with their team, of course, of this MS-13 leader. Again, only 24 years old, one of the leaders. You've got to understand what we're dealing with here. One of the East Coast top leaders of MS-13 captured at his apartment, arrested, and this is showing the success and that we are not going to take this lightly. I mean, even Bernie Sanders said... I appreciate what president Trump has been doing in the Trump administration on fentanyl on border security, because these are things that we have to make sure we're cracking down on. And here's the proof.
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Look, one of the things that I thought was really remarkable this morning here, the governor of Virginia, he's been trying to do things like this for three years and he didn't have any cooperation from the feds. Now the cash Patel is there. Now that Pam Bondi is there, They're getting cooperation and we're going through and digging in and finding these sleeper cells of gang members who wanna do nefarious things to the United States. This is what we have to do. This is tough work. This is trying to use intelligence to dig down, find out where people are, find out where they live and go get them. Yes, it's disruptive. Yes, it's going to be loud in these communities when you go in and do something like this, but it makes our communities safer These individuals never should have been in our country. They are in our country because of the Biden administration. We now have to dig deep, find them and get them out. This is a gang member. The governor of Virginia has been trying to get out for years. And now under the Trump administration, we got him out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Rick, something I saw in these hearings, the global terror threat assessment hearings that have been going on this week, both in the House and Senate, that obviously got hijacked by the Atlantic story. But normally what we'd be hearing about is the work of the law enforcement and the intel communities around things like this. And one thing that was probably missed by a lot of people, because all the clips and everything showed on the news is about the Signalgate scandal as they're trying to make it. But I heard a member of Congress ask Kash Patel or basically put him on notice and say, hey, if when there's a terrorist attack in this country and you've been wasting your time on illegal immigration, we're going to hold you responsible. And one, the assumption that the FBI and Kash Patel is not able to, you know, chew gum and walk at the same time of being able to track terror threats in the United States, as well as this type of thing. But this proves that law enforcement is once again doing their job. And those on the left don't seem to understand that this is real police work. This is real FBI work. This is a dangerous, now designated terrorist organization leader living in the United States here illegally. They may want to say that's policing the border. But in reality, this is fighting violent criminal gang and terrorism crime in this country.
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, I was watching how this was unfolding at the press conference on TV. I was flipping back and forth between Fox and Newsmax and watching this, and I flipped to CNN this morning. And CNN was not doing this story and was not talking about the state and federal law enforcement action to get rid of the leader of MS-13 from the East Coast. Instead, they were reporting on European soccer. And I thought it was really unconscionable that we're trying to dig deep and root out individuals in our society that are making our society less safe. And the mainstream media, CNN, is disinterested. And this is an outlet that is the first one to complain when there's something going wrong. But yet when there's something going right, when you're trying to fix some of these problems, they don't even show up for the press conference. This is a press conference with the US attorney, the FBI director, the attorney general and the governor of Virginia. I would argue that CNN purposefully decided not to talk about this good news because all they wanna do is talk about bad news. This is not the way you run a society. The media have got to start doing their job. And that means covering the good news and the bad news.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think you're right. And when we were flipping through, obviously, we have all the screens up of all the news services doing this morning. And when we were watching this, obviously, Fox had it. I think even MSNBC had it for a second. And then right in the middle of CNN, and they were saying it's opening day for baseball, which means great. You know, I mean, celebrate opening day of baseball. But you are right. These are big moments and we can't just let them slide by. And of course, it doesn't fit their narrative. And look, we see a lot of comments. I mean, you look online, you see a lot of comments, even from sort of your fans. right-wing influencers who maybe who knows how who they're being influenced by they have a lot of issues with Pam Bondi with Kash Patel they're making these statements louder and louder but the proof is in what they're doing and I think when you look at this you go okay there are days where you can wake up and though like you said it's disruptive in this neighborhood Woodbridge very suburban area they said most of the neighbors had you know Easter decorations up But likely this, like you said, was a known threat. This is something the governor wanted to go after and just has never been able to actually get it done because of the narrative, really.
SPEAKER 06 :
One thing that we will never know, Logan, never know. what the next crime that this gang leader was going to commit. The Trump administration stopped something from happening in the future by getting this leader out. And we don't know what that is, but I can tell you that it was certainly a vicious crime if you look at the history of what MS-13 has been doing. Today, we are safer by having this individual caught. He never should have been in our country. But because of the Biden open borders, he was he was like a sleeper cell sitting and waiting. And Kash Patel and Tom Homan and Pam Bondi and the governor of Virginia worked together to get him.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and to that point also, Rick, you bring up that we'll never know what was stopped, what that next crime was, what that next tragedy for that community anywhere on the East Coast would be. And it's kind of like the old... saying that, you know, the CIA, you only know when the CIA has a failure. You never know about the victories and the things they stop. It's similar here with the FBI, except for you can showcase these wins, these victories. And when I just think about... How when you talked about CNN showing soccer, not showing this during the press conference and the reality of this is the FBI doing the FBI work that they should have been doing all along. This is the reform of the agency already just two months in. This isn't a press conference about, you know, we are investigating parents at school boards. This isn't a press conference saying, you know, we are looking into these narratives of Russian interference. This is a press conference of doing the actual job that they're mandated with doing successfully. And they were able to get this leader only two months in to this administration. When it makes you wonder what was happening for four years. That they were able to get him so quickly.
SPEAKER 06 :
A brutal gang leader was taken out of our country because we had people that were looking at the intelligence and making it a priority. If you don't make it a priority, you're going to have brutal gang leaders in your community just lying and waiting like a sleeper cell ready to act. But instead, we said, no, you're not welcome in our country. We're going to arrest you. There's more to be done, and people just need to buckle up because there's a lot more to be done.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, guys, thank you for taking my call. You know, I want to piggyback a little bit on the MS-13 thing. One thing I haven't noticed just yet, and I'm a retired police officer recently, Antifa. that's the one thing too because i'm going to tell you right now guys i was in law enforcement for 33 years the tesla stuff that's going on with the arsons and that that has antifa written all over it i was in the riots in chicago um very well organized very well planned a lot of these kids were not from illinois they were bailed out by a mysterious west coast fund kim fox uh blanketed them basically immunity I was always curious about that. They're a domestic thing. And then with the Hamas protests recently, these kids on the college campuses, I was involved with that, too. All bought and paid for. And my question is, how do they not explain that when these kids get detained by ICE, immediately they have high-powered lawyers? How do we not... Put that to the American public. Look, these kids have money flowing from overseas, and that has to be shown to the American public.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think, Mark, I mean, I think it's known by people that watch this broadcast that there is coordinated efforts, one, both. They are not organic protests at universities.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you see a Molotov cocktail in the year 2025, there's a good chance that it was coordinated.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's like, man... all these people decided to take Molotov cocktails that they all decided to, to the different locations about, no, there's coordination within protest. I put that in quotes, protest groups. Um, yes, I agree. Especially the, the Tesla ones have very much that feel of that Antifa style. Um, and then they get bandwagon people to join on to give them cover for their activities. And then a lot of times those people are the ones that get in trouble. Um,
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's what, if you really look at those protests, a lot of times, some of those people are legitimate. They're real people that are there protesting, but they're spurred on by some sort of funded group. We know this. We've seen it. They've been taken care of sometimes and prosecuted over it. We know that these things are happening, specifically on those college campuses. We knew that was happening. So, Mark, I get that, that you feel that way, because it does all, they do all share similarities. They all do things that you're like, well, that feels like it's very connected. Now, this one this morning just seems more like finally the FBI is able to do their job.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and when you look at this as well, and back to what Mark was talking about, we know that they are starting to go after leaders of those college campus movements that were spurring on violence against Jewish students or people that supported Israel on the campus that were made to feel unsafe. So we know that that is also a part of what the Department of Justice is doing As the same time as this. And that's what I even said with Rick. It's like the left seems to think, OK, well, they're going after one gang member. So the whole of FBI is focused on the one thing. They are ignoring everything else. No, they're actually just doing the real work of law enforcement that they should have been doing all along. but weren't doing because that wasn't the agenda of the administration. But I think we should play Kash Patel as well before we move on topics because he gave a really solid statement about police work and law enforcement at this presser that we played Pam Bondi from earlier. Let's go ahead and roll bite one.
SPEAKER 02 :
This is what happens when you let good cops be cops. And we're going to continue to let good cops be cops across this country. President Trump gave us the executive decision to go after and safeguard our communities. General Bondi is our warrior of justice leading that charge. Governor Youngkin, it's an honor to be a partner in this operation with you and U.S. Attorney Siebert. This is a mandate we have. Right now we have an American dying every seven minutes from a drug overdose. That is a national security crisis we have not seen ever before. We have a woman or child being raped every six and a half minutes in this country. We have a homicide twice an hour. No part of that metric is a safe and secure America. But thanks to the brave leadership of this administration and the folks that you see here, we are returning our communities to safety. As you heard, we took down this morning a top leader of MS-13. That is not done easily. That is done with brilliant law enforcement.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, again, that was from Kash Patel just this morning. This all took place within the last few hours. And you know what? They haven't released the identity because you do have to go through the legal situation of releasing the identity. We already have more information about this than we do almost anything that happened during the Biden administration. And we have it in record time. Within hours, they have given you details. They have celebrated the success. They have celebrated the people who did it. This is the kind of action we're looking for.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know what I'm ready for, though, you know, talking about the media side of it, I can't wait to see the headlines or the commentators on CNN. And we'll probably see Scott Jennings shut them down, you know, as he tends to do over there. But I'm ready for them to start saying, well, I mean, was he really a top leader?
SPEAKER 01 :
of MS-13.
SPEAKER 10 :
He's only 24. Yeah, he's young. Do we know? We don't know the name yet, so are we certain he was a top leader or are they overselling this that they got this person off the street? Because they can't take the win. They can't give any credit. They'll probably try to spin this somehow back into the signal gate thing of like, oh, no wonder Kash Patel wasn't discussing military plans even though he's the FBI director. He was going after a low-level MS-13 gang member. They won't be able to just report it and say, you know what? for every single American, for every immigrant community in America, for anyone who is here legally and should live under the protections of American law enforcement and safety and that promise of liberty, this is a good thing. I want to see them say it. I just want to see them tell the truth one time on a story like this. But they can't because it's President Trump. So that's my prediction is that we're going to start seeing headlines that this wasn't as big of a deal as they wanted it to be.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekula.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back to Sekula. Will Haynes is joining me as well. And look, we're looking on all the news sources because Rick kind of brought that up. Hey, he flipped over to CNN. They weren't even talking about this. They were talking about soccer. They were talking about opening day. Why are they not talking about one of the top gang leaders in MS-13 who was arrested this morning with an incredible act by the FBI, a really strong act by Attorney General Bondi and Kash Patel. But no, I'm not encouraging you to go to the MSNBC website, but right now, if you went to their website, guess what is not even on the front page? This story. A lot of other stories will, but this story is nowhere to be found. It was the number one story of the morning across all of television, across all of the news. It is the thing we should be talking about, our nation's leaders, even if some reason in some weird way you disagree with it happening. This is what's happening. Well, and of course, they do kind of disagree.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, this is the most amazing thing that I found in real time while we're talking about, hey, the media may try to change the narrative on this. But one of the top pieces on MSNBC's website right now is this headline. Trump is undermining domestic terrorism prevention efforts. And the sub-headline is, the administration cites national security to justify its most aggressive actions, but it's dismantling programs to combat extremism and domestic terror. And what it's referring to are some of the cuts in funding that they're doing to what are called prevention programs. These are community programs where they give grants to community organizations to try to stop people being radicalized or something before they become radicalized now here is probably the most amazing sentence that i've read from an msnbc article because they're talking about that he's harming prevention of uh of domestic terror protection and and they say it's these these prevention programming that that they're chopping through doge it's terrible then they have this sentence While many civil rights advocates have opposed federally sponsored prevention programming for valid reasons, it'd be a grave mistake to assume the Trump administration has moved to curtail those efforts with pure intentions. So literally, the sources they would go to, the civil rights advocates, don't like these programs. And the Trump administration is cutting those programs. And what's the response at the top of their website right now? One of the three articles across the top. It says, yeah, the people we normally trust say they're bad programs, but because Trump's doing it, it's bad. It blows your mind that this is reality, that they could write a sentence like that and feature it at the top of their web page.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you. Thanks for taking my call. Yes. As Will had brought out earlier in the show, it says, why couldn't they have done this earlier during the Biden administration? And the reason why is because the Department of Justice and all of the agencies were geared to trying to keep conservatives and those who are supporting Trump and watching over them and everything and even in the way of bringing all the governments to come against then candidate Trump. And so I think all the times they were just literally so myopic and close-minded that they were just not aware of how many dangerous people were coming across the border.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right, Ronald. And honestly, when you look at even how many lawsuits we had, I believe it was like 12. I asked our team for the number, but things that turned into lawsuits against the FBI during the Biden administration because of the weaponization of government. That's what we saw. It was systematic. It was so many different instances of using the federal government through the executive branch, to weaponize the government for political gain. Now, the left will try to weaponize the news of what the Trump administration is doing for political gain. But going after and getting one of the top leaders of an international gang, which President Trump warned us about this gang in 2016. MS-13 was already on the rise back during his first administration, and it was one of the angles he wanted to go after. But remember... The cabinet wasn't as amenable, I'd like to say, as it is now. And there were obstacles and there was Russiagate. And there were things that genuinely hampered the administration from doing then what they're doing now by going after and being able to use the actual executive branch the way it should be used and allowing the FBI to do the right thing. Remember, James Comey was the head of the FBI when President Trump was elected. And what was the head of the FBI doing when President Trump was elected? Sending spies into the White House, leaking things to the press. He was asked, why did you send agents over to interview Mike Flynn? Because I could, because they were disorganized. That was the FBI then. Kash Patel's FBI is different. What is Kash Patel's FBI doing the first two months of his presidency? Getting top gang members off the street. This is night and day, folks, of what happened with James Comey's FBI that was weaponized, that was politicized in 2016. Now, President Trump learned a lot in that first administration and is completely different. And now the FBI is actually doing law enforcement instead of political weaponization. I'm here for it. This is what makes America better. You fired him up. I did because when you think about the context and the history, you can't get over how wonderful a move like this is of getting a top gang leader off the street and no one's killed. No one's injured. It is successful. They get him off the street. He's here illegally. And now we'll probably no longer be here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think we'll learn a lot more soon. They said you got to go through some of the process. But all we know is at least up front, 24-year-old. They said one of the top leaders, really one of the top bad guys, as they said, of MS-13 was one of the East Coast leaders. Again, though, 24 years old, hanging out in the suburbs of Virginia. in woodbridge virginia good barbecue in woodbridge virginia phone lines are open for you i wonder if you wonder if we ever shared a meal with this guy didn't know because we're sitting at the table next to you that's what's going on it's pretty crazy 1-800-684-3110 to have your voice heard on the air today i would appreciate you calling in we actually have a full bank open right now because we took so many calls so if you've ever wanted to be on the show this is the time i know will likes that makes our phone screeners uh get a little itchy but you know what You know, it's their job. See what happens. 1-800-684-3110. I did want to move our attention, Will, to what was going on. This was, what, yesterday? Yes. There was a panel, NPR, PBS, the top honchos of those public broadcasting services, which, again, is a bit of a misnomer. We'll talk about that. We're getting pretty grilled by a lot of GOP lawmakers talking about what they were funding, why they were funding. Did it feel, which you would say, quote unquote, fair? Would you feel like it felt balanced at all? And of course we know, public broadcasting... historically, and look, like I told you earlier, I have been known to be a listener of public broadcasting, because I can discern whether I agree with something or disagree with, and I can appreciate good production. And you know what, they've put out some quality stuff. Some of their kids' stuff, I think is excellent. I think some of the stuff they've put out, some of the comedy stuff that's happened on NPR over the years, the Prairie Home campaigns and all that, always politically left. You knew they were politically left, but I could kinda sort through it. Now, it feels like they have taken a much larger turn towards that. And people don't really know the ins and outs of how that work. You hear public broadcasting, you hear PBS, you hear NPR, and a lot of people's minds go to government run, government operated. But what it is, is more partially government funded.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. And this is one of those fights that, to me, at the end of the day, is kind of a nothing burger for reality. Because the left makes it, you think, if you take this away, people will not have access to this media, this news. It's life-saving. And the right, I think, to some degree, overblows it a little bit that this is 100% state media kind of operation. But what I do agree with is that The United States government does not need to be funding this. There's about $320 billion a year that goes to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which then issues grants. It's like a quasi-government entity that doesn't really have oversight in particular. But it then gives grants to both public media stations and then also the production houses. And that's NPR stations, what you listen to, aren't owned by NPR. NPR is basically a production company. They used to only own two radio stations. I don't know if they even own those anymore. The content they create is then licensed. Right. They sell their content to affiliate stations. And so when you look at this, though, and you break it down, NPR corporate, the company that makes All Things Considered or Morning Edition, only about 1% of their entire budget comes from federal funding. And sometimes that's not even directly. That's because the local stations buy those shows. Then on the local stations, any individual station may only get about 8% of their budget from the federal government, from the corporation for public broadcasting. So in reality, we could just not spend $320 billion in, And these businesses would remain. Right. There's no reason that we should be paying for, especially because there is no conservative viewpoint. There is no balance to it. It is effectively a propaganda machine. I love the quality. I love the history. I love a lot of the content. And Will worked there. And that comes from my college internship at NPR Corporate in Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I did mine at MTV Network. So you know what? We are both. You're cooler than I. I am the nerdier of the two.
SPEAKER 10 :
We're both working for... We went to the The belly of the beast, as they say. But one thing too, it's like even one of my major projects while I was there was before they went into all the podcasting. I helped create the budget, the forecasting and the philosophy as an intern.
SPEAKER 07 :
Obviously, I don't take credit for it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I like they had interns doing that work. But that was one of the projects I was tasked with. I have the Wall Street Journal business section still when the CEO, about three weeks after my internship ended, announced their plan forward because I worked on that. I like content. I like listening. I like the aesthetic. But in no world do we need to spend $320 billion on this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and when you have so much access to free media, whether that is online, whether that is other radio options, whether that is, again, most of them are listener supported, just like our show here, just like our organization. You can speak with your wallet and say what you want to support or not. I know Mitt Romney, I remember he got a lot of flack because he's like, Big Bird needs commercials. You know, I actually didn't like that thought. I think that there are some things that can be funded without the need for big commercial sponsors. That you can say, I think that this is good, it's necessary, and I want to make my donation for it. That could be for Sesame Street. That could be for this show right here. It could be for Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. That could be for the ACLJ. You tell, essentially, the landscape of how media looks. You control that now. With your eyeballs... And of course, with your wallet. And as we head to the last segment of this show, I want you to give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. I'd like to have some more calls. Discuss this. We can talk about that. And look, I'm looking at the chat right now. It's a lot of talk about barbecue right now, Will. It's just a lot of barbecue talk. I'll do that in the final segment if you want. A lot of debate of whether Virginia could possibly have good barbecue. And then there's a whole debate over East and West North Carolina barbecue. So if you have a question or comment about barbecue, I'm not saying this is the time to call, but it's probably the time to comment. And we can answer those on the show. Go to ACLJ.org right now as we head into the last segment and give us a call. Welcome back to Seculo. We are not just spending our time talking about barbecue. The comments are. And there's big fights going on. There's some territorial... It's like the old wrestling system. The old wrestling territories. That's happening right now. People's barbecue. What's your favorite barbecue, Will? Well, I mean... Oh, I put him on the spot. He didn't even have an answer.
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No, I love pulled pork barbecue. I just don't want to anger people. I love, you know, a good pulled pork sandwich. I love in Georgia when you can get the chopped pork. Okay. Georgia barbecue. And it's like the real diced pork. I know what you're talking about. I know. I love it. I love a good chopped pork sandwich. that's a Georgia thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Love Georgia barbecue, love Alabama barbecue. I'm a Memphis man. I like a Memphis barbecue. I think Memphis has the best barbecue. Phone lines are open for you. You can talk about barbecue, but that's really not what we're talking about. We're talking about NPR. We're talking about this MS-13 raid. A lot of you are talking about my necklace on the chat today. 1-800-684-3110. I'll give you the history of my necklace. People ask it all the time. Maybe we'll do that a little bit later if you want it. Some of the anti-Semites on there really would like to know. Let's go ahead though and go to Devorah who's calling in New Jersey on line two. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi guys. I just wanted to call in and give my comment about, um, the MS 13 guy that was apprehended. Um, I just wanted to, to reiterate to everyone that's listening. Um, these people really are dangerous and I'm talking from lived experience because my parents are from El Salvador. Both my parents, my whole family, they came to the U S in the eighties, um, when they were having the civil war in their country. and um before their current president president bukele got in office my family was actually being extorted by ms and so these people really don't care they are very dangerous and i am congratulating president trump on what he's doing with the gangs especially specifically ms-13 because i actually had cousins that were extorting my own family um because they were in ms-13. devora i'm going
SPEAKER 07 :
glad you called in because I think people just hear MS-13. It's almost like a boogeyman name. They don't understand sort of the organizations that are behind these groups, that they are running this way. You're right. The people of even El Salvador, they are working there. They are against even their own people and they are ready to act in an organized crime gang sort of way in a way that you almost don't imagine is still happening.
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Well, and once again, to her point as well, when the left tries to say that they are pro-immigrant And that the president's administration is not. When you talk about people that come here legally to flee actual, you know, actual asylum seekers or get here and it's through the regular process legally because they want to leave the extortion, the terror that's being put upon them by things like MS-13. They're going to be victims here, too, when you have an open border policy that allows, you know, the third highest ranking U.S. gang member to come here from El Salvador illegally. They're also going to target people that came here legally. that are in immigrant communities or they have connections back to El Salvador, they're gonna try to pick on the easy targets they can as well. So if you are on the left and you actually want to support immigrant communities like I think we should, then you have to be praising this move because this is supporting even the communities that may be vulnerable to this kind of violence.
SPEAKER 07 :
What's interesting is I think that they're not necessarily not supporting the move. They're just going to ignore it. It's happening. That's what happened on MSNBC. That's what happened on CNN. A lot of these places are just going to pretend it doesn't happen because you can't really argue against The fact that we were able to arrest one of the top leaders of MS-13, who was not really hiding, who was under our nose, right outside of Washington, D.C., in the suburbs of Woodbridge, Virginia. This is where that's happening. They said there were Easter decorations around most of the other houses. And when they found him, he was there again with a family. This is a 24-year-old. This is not what you're thinking of. This isn't when you think of organized crime. You think of Tony Soprano. You think of these larger-than-life older characters. You were talking about what is essentially a kid, a kid that has gotten himself into a crazy situation. And of course, money is involved. Of course, drugs and death is involved. And we got to make sure that we support, like you said, these immigrant communities that come in that are amazing people. They're doing amazing things and are bringing so much life and so much culture to our country. I have no problem with that. It is when you have these situations where you're not able to go get at the bad guys and include that even in our own country, by the way. I'm not even just talking about immigrant communities. During the last administration, crime was, I mean, look at what's happening in the streets in New York or in San Francisco where your storefronts have to just be closed up. A Target, a Whole Foods just has to say, you know what? It's not even worth the risk. to be open in business in these neighborhoods anymore because there's so much crime and crime that's not getting taken care of. Last year, two years ago, I was in San Francisco. There are signs that say, roll down your windows and make sure you take everything out of your car. So then guess what? Your car's not going to get smashed in because the criminals know you have nothing. Because petty crime, as they would, I guess, say, is no longer treated that way in the state of California. Hopefully now, We can make a major adjustment and a major change. And that's what we're shooting for. Let's go to Forrest in California, who is an ACLJ champion, which by the way, that's someone that gives on a recurring monthly basis, essentially a member. And how you do that is you support the work of the ACLJ. You give a donation and there's even just a checkbox or you can go to ACLJ champions. There's a few little perks. If you give, right now, by the way, your first month will be doubled as well, and then it will roll into that. But Forrest is an ACLJ champion, which means he gives, like I said, on a monthly basis, which is amazing. It's incredible. And you get some perks, like being put up to number one on the phone screening list. And he is, right now, getting pushed to the top. Forrest, you're on the air.
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Yes, how are you doing? One of the ways you can assess the bias of a TV or news program radio news talk show is by the ratio of the number of people on the left versus the right that they interview. I listen to NPR a lot and sometimes other leftist channels to know what they're saying. It is absolutely striking that not only are all the hosts on NPR clearly woke slash leftist, but all those interviewed are as well. I watched an hour of CNN coverage on the last night, and the ratio was four to zero Democrats, Republicans, but they occasionally aggressively interview Republican now and then. Not so NPR. Right now, today is the time for each of us to call a Republican congressman and assist a defund NPR. They might as well do PBS, too, because it's almost as biased.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Boris, thank you so much for calling in. I appreciate that, and That's a lot of sentiment of a lot of people calling in right now who feel that way. Look, I believe if you want to support NPR, you like what they do. Fantastic. I can't say I haven't given money. I'm sure I've gone to many NPR events. I've gone to things that are NPR related. Same with PBS. PBS, I think, does some of the best. children's programming now again much like npr they're not necessarily making those programs someone else is making the program they're licensing them like a mr rogers or fred rogers foundation that's making a daniel tiger's neighborhood that's not necessarily being made by pbs it's just giving them the outlet so i think there are places you can always put your money to support the content that you like and of course i'm also going to talk about us right now because this is wrapping up the aclj's life and liberty drive it's happening right now And your safety and freedoms are in jeopardy right now. Around the world, we're hearing this from Christians, from conservatives, people that feel like this. And then look at our country, it is much less. But it's still problems. There's still street preachers getting arrested. There's still churches being shut down. Churches that have been meeting for 20 years on the beaches in California and told, you can't do this anymore. You can't meet here weekly anymore. And we're there for them at absolutely no cost. So as we head into the final 30 seconds of this show, I'm going to ask you to put up that QR code. There you go. It's not that I don't want you to see my pretty face. Of course I do. But go to ACLJ.org, scan that QR code, because this is the time. There's only a couple days left in our March Life and Liberty Drive, and you are supporting our life campaign in such an amazing way. And you know we are touching hearts. We are touching minds. And of course, we are aggressively pursuing legal action at no cost to our clients. But that is because of you, and that's why we need your help. We're going to hear more about what we're doing in Israel. You're going to hear more about what we're doing all over the world. You're going to hear more about Will's favorite barbecue. He really could do that if we have your support here at the ACLJ. So I encourage you, scan that QR code right now, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.
In this enlightening discussion, Angie Austin is joined by Dr. Frances Cheng from PETA to delve into the controversial topic of animal testing in the food industry. Learn about PETA's 'Eat Without Experiments' initiative and find out how you can make informed purchasing decisions to support the end of animal testing. Dr. Cheng shares her firsthand experiences from her previous work in animal testing labs and her current efforts to bring about change. Tune in to find out how you can help make a difference.
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin and Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald, my friend of like 25 years, joining us to talk more about his new book, It Started With a Turtle, One Man's Life on a Blue and Green Planet. Hey, my friend. I'm so excited to talk to you. How are you? I am doing well, and you are going to be so excited because in the next segment, I have an interview with Dr. Frances Cheng. She was a researcher in a medical school, and she was forced to do research with animals because that's part of your medical school training. And she also runs a restaurant, and she is now... has an initiative to stop animal testing in the food industry in the food and beverage industry and she has a way to do this testing without animals and uh her description of what they do to animals to be honest with you kev i'm a little shocked that when i eat an oreo what they had to do to animals in order for them to make claims about that oreo so that i would eat it like kev i know what an oreo does to my body i don't need them to test oreos on animals
SPEAKER 04 :
No, that's right. You know, and there's not always the same correlation between, you know, animal dosages in humans. You know, it doesn't always translate to the same. So there needs to be ethical, you know, regulation of this and moral. You know, I think that these are animals that share the same life force we do. And I think, yeah, there's a, There's a real dilemma there with testing in animals.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. She talks about the physiology being so different. So I'm excited to talk to her next. But another animal lover, you. Now, we talked about it started with the turtle a couple of weeks back when it first came out. One Man's Life on a Blue and Green Planet. I got my copy on computer, but you can get hard copies. And I see that you're doing a lot of book signings. And I already knew that, you know, as a young man that you did security for big rock groups like the Rolling Stones. And I knew the story about how you got involved. turned on to vet school. But just tell that little snippet of who you consulted when you were thinking about leaving your work, traveling the country, seeing the world with the Rolling Stones, doing security, but you had other opportunities. So who was one of the people you consulted?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, at the end of the tour, you know, Keith would take care of the bouncers. Keith Richards. Yeah. And so, you know, people can say what they want about the Rolling Stones, but man, they are organized and professional. And, you know, it I guess all these years, you know, in the spotlight, it didn't happen by chance, you know. And so they're good guys. And so I had another chance to stay and do another tour. And, you know, they were going out again. And I also had a chance to go to, you know, maybe go to school. And he said, look, you can't be a bouncer when you're 50. He goes, for sure, go to school. I'll write you a letter. I'll write you a letter of recommendation. I'll do whatever you need to do. But You need to go to school. And so, you know, unlikely person, unlikely source for great advice, but he's the best ever. And, you know, you listen when he says something, you know, you take it to heart. I came back to Denver and said, Keith told me I got to get a grip on my life when my brother picked me up at the airport. He goes, well, when Keith tells you something, you better listen, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
That is hilarious. When you told me that the first time, I'd already known you for like a decade. And I'm like, you have all these great stories. I'm so glad you finally wrote a book. And a lot of people know that you're a stand-up comedian. You do the Animal House segment on Channel 2 that you and I started about 25 years ago. You're still doing it.
SPEAKER 04 :
We started, yes, every 26 years in June. Oh, my gosh. But, you know, you've always been an animal lover. And, you know, we were given this wonderful opportunity. biodiversity of all the animals around us, particularly in Colorado where we live. The wildlife is so spectacular. We've been seeing the owls have been real active this spring with babies and teaching babies how to hunt and fly. The wildlife here, we're given this wonderful biodiversity and our intellect and all the other animals are waiting for us to use our intellect and save the place, but I think that there's wonderful things conservation-wise. I just did a lecture in Chicago to a wonderful group called Citizens for Conservation that they go out in their own communities around Chicago and pick up trash and try and preserve parks and go in and reclaim parks where maybe the underbrushes over-claimed it so that people can go and enjoy it. So I think the national parks and the city parks are one of the best ideas anybody's ever had. If you look at how often our parks in Denver are used, it's remarkable that people playing volleyball are just going out and enjoying the day. It's a great thing. We were meant to be outside. When we're outside, our physiology changes and you get more endorphins with sunshine and in, in, uh, And yeah, we weren't meant to be in these concrete cocoons.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. No kidding. You know, I, we have motion activated cameras and we live on, even though we're, you know, just outside of Denver, we have several acres and it's kind of like a horse property neighborhood where they have horse, like horse trails, but a lot of animals use those little trails that they've kind of fenced off in between the homes.
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Urban wildlife. You probably see foxes and you see coyotes. Probably you may even, even see raccoons and, and, You know, the urban wildlife in and around any big city now where these animals have learned how to exploit the place, rabbits, you know, are still. Hummingbirds.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Kevin, we had three owls in our front yard. And it was the weirdest thing because it must have been a territorial thing because my son's like, oh, my gosh, like they're fighting. And then we had one that landed an owl that was on. We kind of have a front porchy kind of thing. And he was just like sitting there. You know, and I'm like, I mean, it's so rare, like daylight to see an owl just sitting basically on the edge of your porch. But last night, my husband just sent me this photo and he's like, there's a coyote because we have motion activated cameras. There's a coyote basically looking in our basement sliding glass door. And he's about 10 feet from the door because, you know, I have a lot of pets. And they go out that back door and I sit in the backyard with them. And they have those collars that don't allow them to leave our yard, per se. And I thought my dogs would be smart enough that I could take the collars off after a few weeks and they wouldn't. But no, they know the minute that the collar's off, they can leave the yard. And they know when the collar's on, they don't go near the edge of the yard. So anyway, that coyote knows that that's their roaming ground. And he's just like staring in the sliding glass window waiting for lunch.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, we have to be very careful. We see the lucky ones that have survived, but we see coyote and fox attacks on pets. The coyotes have learned it's easier to pull a fat cat off a porch than to chase down a bunny. So I think we have a little bit of foresight as to who goes out late at night and unsupervised. I think particularly where you live, or an area where there are big stretches and expanses of undeveloped areas where they can hide and live. Yeah, well, they deserve their place at the table, too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Just not my table of my pets. You're right. No, I'm the supervisor. They don't go out after dark, not in the yard. That's for sure. We have a special pen my husband built that's outside, but six-foot fence and the whole nine yards, so they can't get near our animals. I want to... catch up now on it started with the turtle uh one man's life on a blue and green planet dr kevin fitzgerald i mentioned you know you going to vet school and you doing the animal house segment on channel two uh you're also a stand-up comedian and then your um animal planet um work as well being on tv can you tell me how you got into the comedy and the animal planet show because we haven't touched on that yet
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, stand-up, I always liked. We would go in college to see different comedians, and Steve Martin played at Red Rocks, and there were comedians that we really enjoyed. And so I had a friend that was doing it, and I'd go and watch him, and he was even getting paid, and I thought, well, I can be this bad. I should try this. And so, I mean, there's different things you do, and I think for most people, public speaking is one of their greatest fears, and for stand-up comics, there's something wrong with us because we want to get out there and tell our stuff. And so you start in the beginning on amateur nights and new talent nights. And, you know, you get torn to pieces by the crowd. Then you go back the next week and you're healed up a little bit and you're a little bit better. So it's kind of the classic thing of, you know, try, fail, try again, fail again, try again, fail again. And then finally, you know, try again, fail better. You know, you're doing a little bit better. So if you stick with it, you can You can learn, and I don't know if I've ever mastered it, you know, trying to get that perfect joke out, and you never do, but it's been a great hobby. And so we were lucky here in Denver in that, you know, we are yourself included. We're part of a wonderful television community, and Jim Berger had done, you know, How the West Was Lost, a thing from the perspectives of the Native Americans of the American West. And he had an idea for, oh, ER was real big at the time, you know, with George Clooney. And he had about an animal ER and thought that our hospital, a 24-hour hospital, might, you know, fit perfectly. And Animal Planet was brand new and just starting. And so it was a perfect storm, you know, our place and his idea and the people at High Noon out there were so talented. And it really proved it. um, you didn't have to be in New York or LA to have a hit show. And we were one of the first shows I did, you know, for 11 seasons. Wow. And two seasons of interns. And, and, you know, and so it was, it was very successful. And those things kind of have a shelf life and it ran its course, but you know, I, I realized, You know, I'm not a celebrity. I'm a poor but honest veterinarian. And it showed what we do on a daily basis, and it showed veterinarians and veterinary medicine in kind of a light that people might not always see, kind of behind the wall, and what was happening with different stories. So, yeah, so that's how that started.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I have to say, Kev, I follow you on social media and I see you with my pets and my friends and I attempt to come see you do comedy. And you're friends with one of my other Irish friends, Karen, who just recently, Karen Boylan, well, not Boylan anymore, she's married, but went to one of your book signings. And I know, and we share our Irish heritage as well. But I have to say, and I know how humble you are and you're just going to brush me off, but you are one of the kindest, most giving, thoughtful people in terms of wanting to leave the world a better place and just like you ooze kindness. Like you bend over backwards for people and your love of animals and you only sleep like four hours a night. You're like doing standup, you're done at one. But if I message you, I mean, if it's the middle of the night, I swear within like half an hour, you're either calling me back saying, don't worry about the chocolate chip cookies. Stop Googling things. Your dog's fine. Google is the cleanest thing ever.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, I had a woman tell me the other day, you know, she said, I went on Google and it said that a dog mouth is 10 million times cleaner than a human mouth. And I said, well, actually, madam, we don't lick our bottoms all day. We can get, you know, bad bacteria from any dog's mouth. And so, you know, I mean, yeah, Google has heard it. People are crazy. I mean, this woman, she didn't want to give vaccines to this dog the other day. And she said, the vaccines will make my dog autistic. Oh, my goodness. How could you tell he's a French bulldog? You know, he's not doing a lot of, you know, higher math problems to begin with. And so I think. No, I think Google is great. We can pick up things, but it's not the last answer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Kev, we're out of time, but just like I figure, you brush off all my compliments. I just think you are a super terrific human. Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald started with a turtle, one man's life on a blue and green planet. Looking forward to our next interview. Thank you, friend.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, thank you. I hope I helped you. Thank you for all you say. You're too kind. Thank you.
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Kimball, Nebraska is listening to the mighty 670 KLT Denver.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. Now, this topic isn't going to seem like good news, but the fact that we can help is good news. Okay, so here's the deal. There is, and I wasn't even aware of the extent of this, there's animal testing that's done in the food industry and still goes on today with a lot of popular products. For instance, the Mega Stuff Oreos that my kids love so much that we just had on vacation. I've been known to have one from time to time. I know they're very unhealthy for me. I don't need any animal testing to know that an Oreo is not healthy for me. So here is what's interesting. Dr. Frances Chang is going to join us here in a minute. And she actually worked with animals in testing because if you're going to medical school, a lot of these animal tests are done in that medical school setting. And so she has about a decade of background in testing. experiments that in some cases involved animals and so she saw a lot of this done and now she has turned the tables and is working to stop this kind of testing uh and she is a restaurant owner and she is a doctor and she has a very important position now and is involved with uh you know, stopping this. She's a chief scientist of international laboratory methods with PETA. What are some of the things that they do? Well, they do things like force feed these animals, juices, candy bars, breakfast cereals, even liquor. And they are force feeding them sometimes starving them, injecting them with harmful substances, sometimes giving them cancer or giving them high blood pressure, hanging them upside down for quite some time by their tails to let them deteriorate. They're made to run on treadmills and they're forced sometimes to swim until exhaustion, electroshocked, those diseases that they can be infected with. And then at the end, they need to do away with the animal in order to dissect the animal and see the effects on the animal. Why are they doing this? Well, Dr. Chang can explain that in some cases they're doing it so that they can make claims about their food, maybe telling us a certain snack food is a junk food is healthy in some way or does something good for us or if they've added vitamins to it or something. So let's find out more about this and the initiative. We're talking about this new food initiative that's set to end animal testing in the food and beverage business. We're going to learn more about the Eat Without Experiments Global Certification and how we can get involved. Joining us is Dr. Francis Cheng, a chief scientist of international laboratory methods for PETA. Welcome, Dr. Cheng.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi, glad to be here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, before we get into the experiments and what you're doing with your initiative, I think you have a very interesting background. So you are a restaurant owner as well, so you're in the food business, but you also had work prior to working with PETA that I think is very relevant. Can you talk about a little bit about yourself and your background?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, prior to joining PETA, I was an experimenter all throughout my education up until my Ph.D., And I experienced firsthand how animal experiments don't apply to humans. It's completely bogus. And after I graduated, I came to join PETA and try to end this practice.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think because of your background, not just the restaurant business, but also working in animal experimentation, it makes your testimony and your work so powerful. When I read about your background, I'm like, hello, you couldn't have made someone better for working for PETA than you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let's talk about, I think so too. So what is PETA's Eat Without Experiments initiative and why do we need this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so like I said, we have this Eat Without Experiments new global initiative and the goal is to eliminate animal experiments from the food and beverage industry. Because many people still don't know that food companies, they experiment on animals and they kill them. for profit for food that we eat every day. For example, right now we have a campaign on the Oreo maker. The company name is Mondelez International. They have paid experimenters to force feed human feces to animals. They also feed them with candies, chips, and crackers with or without food fiber, and then they kill them just so that they can attempt to make some bogus marketing health claims that they've somehow made their junk food products healthier with these fibers in order to trick people into buying more of their products. So on our website, which is PETA.org slash EWE, people can speak out and urge Mondelez International to stop this cruel, unnecessary, and wasteful practice. All you have to do is click on that Take Action button in the middle of that page, and it sends emails directly to the CEO of Mondelez. You can tell him directly how you feel about this and urge him to stop. And we also have in this program a searchable database so that people can see which food and beverage products are made by companies that experiment on animals so they can make informed purchasing decisions. We have already persuaded many food and beverage companies to stop experimenting on animals. These include Unilever, Ferrero, Gorilla, and more than 400 other companies and brands have signed on to this program already and banned experiments on animals. But there are many other bad players we need people to know about, and we need people to join us in this fight to get experiments done. out of the food and beverage industry just like how we did with the cosmetics industry we got them to switch away from the animal experiments we can do the same with the food and beverage industry because we as consumers we have power over these for-profit companies because without us consumers they cannot survive
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, let's give, I know we're going to give it at the end, but I want to give the website right now so people, we make sure people get this so they can search the database and see which food companies are testing on animals. So give that website.
SPEAKER 05 :
PETA.org slash E-W-E. So it's spelled P-E-T-A dot O-R-G for slash E-W-E. W-E stands for eat without experiment.
SPEAKER 03 :
When you mentioned the large company at the beginning, you mentioned Oreos, which I buy every week for my kids. So you're talking about force-feeding animals, junk food and other things. And then at the end, oftentimes the animals are then killed and dissected. And they're doing this in some cases to make claims that somehow their junk food is healthy because they force-fed these animals, killed them, dissected them, and then they make these claims.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's exactly right. So these animals are intentionally and artificially made sick to begin with so that the food companies can test their food products on them and artificially cure the disease. So I'll give you some more examples of what happened in these two industry experiments. Experimenters would inject animals with cancerous cells to make them grow painful and cancerous tumors. They would feed them high-fault diet to make them have high blood pressure. They would hang them by their tails for weeks so that they cannot move and their muscles would shrink and deteriorate. They would infect them with viruses to make them sick. They would run them on treadmills and repeatedly electroshock them until they cannot run anymore. And they would collapse on the treadmill. And there are so many more of these horrific examples. And at the end of the experience, like I said, they are often killed, and sometimes in violent ways, too. The most common way of killing is CO2 asphyxiation, so supplication by carbon dioxide. and sometimes neck-breaking or having their heads chopped off, having their heart ripped open and their blood drained out. And they're dissected, too, and at the end they're tossed in this garbage bag and thrown away, you know, those, like, red-colored biohazard garbage bags. And these are cruel. But not only are they cruel, they're completely useless because animals, they have different physiology from humans. The animal test data don't apply to humans. For example, if you test chocolate on dogs, You would poison the dogs and you would not prove the chocolate's health benefit. The same thing, you would not test dog food on human babies. Why are we testing these human foods, common human foods in oils and cookies and treats and candies on other animals? It doesn't make any scientific sense.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and what's interesting is you know this because in school you saw these studies.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, exactly. I saw it for a thing. The thing is that these companies, they're not doing this for the sciences. They're just doing this so that they can create some health marketing points to generate those sensational news headlines. News studies show eating ABC can cure XYZ. And most people, they don't read the details. And I think in the companies, they take advantage of that. They know that people don't care about the details. They might not know that these are animal experiments. They might not have the access to journal articles and see the conflict of interest section that these are actually funded by the companies that made these products. So they can get away with creating these claims and people still buy the product.
SPEAKER 03 :
So they're creating these claims by testing on animals. It's not necessary. It's not relevant because our physiology is different than the animals. And these tests are not required in any way by law, correct?
SPEAKER 06 :
It depends on where you are. In the U.S., no. So the food safety regulation in the U.S. doesn't require animal experiments, and that's because We already have a ton of animal-free test methods that are internationally recognized and regulatory agencies approved that can be used to assess the safety of food. For health claim regulations, the health claims in U.S., in Canada, and the European Union, they don't require animal testing. They require human tests. They actually don't even accept the animal test data as standalone evidence. And in the regulation, they explain that it's because You know, human trials are the gold standard for food testing animals. They have different physiologies from humans and therefore experimenting on animals cannot provide scientific evidence, scientific information for humans. And, um, so they, they don't, they require human tests and these are just common human food. So there's no issue with testing on humans directly, but in some other parts of the world, uh, there are regulations for foods that would trigger animal experiments. And in those situations, PETA's focus has been on changing the regulations themselves. We have an international team of scientists and lawyers, and we regularly meet with regulators and help them update their regulations. For example, we have convinced the Taiwan FDA to remove the animal experiments recommendation from six of its health plan regulations already. There are eight more in the works. And companies who are in this situation, they say animal experiments are required by law. they can come to us for help. We regularly consult companies and provide strategies and provide proposal to get these regular agencies to accept animal-free test methods. In these companies, they can still participate in the Eat Without Experiments program because there is a category that allows animal experiments that are explicitly required by law.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so what ethical research can food and beverage companies pursue instead of animal testing? Because I'm pretty aware, I watch my 600-pound life, I'm pretty aware of what abusive Oreos can do to the human body. I don't need any animals killed to show me what an Oreo does to my body. So what ethical ethical research can the food and beverage companies pursue instead of animal testing?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so for foods that we buy and eat every day, foods that humans have been consuming for a very long time, clinical studies can be done and they actually have been done for most of the food that we eat already. We already have human data. In this situation, animal testing, animal experiments don't add anything to the scientific information. they're completely unnecessary because we already have human data. And more clinical studies can be done on consenting human volunteers when it comes to everyday food, like Oreos, oatmeal, green tea, chocolate, cookies, anything that you can think of. For novel foods that don't have a history of safe human consumption, again, we have plenty of animal-free test methods that can be used to assess their safety. These are mostly in vitro and computer modeling methods. They are based on created based on human physiology. So they're actually more reliable and more predictive than animal experiments. And again, these are accepted internationally, regulatory agencies accept them and prove them. Once they're deemed safe, then you can do the clinical studies with consenting human volunteers with no issues.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so again, we want to give the website so people can search the foods that they eat, that they purchase to see if they're involved with animal experimentation and which companies are doing this. And then there's an easy way to contact those organizations and tell them we're not going to support them if they continue these painful animal testing procedures. So give us that website again, doctor.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's PETA.org slash EWE. So PETA.org forward slash EWE.
SPEAKER 03 :
And again, Dr. Chang runs her own restaurant. She's in the food business. She also worked in animal testing when she was in school, so she saw this firsthand. And now she's working with PETA to stop this unnecessary and painful, unethical treatment of animals. Thank you so much, doctor, for all you're doing to help animals and to help us as well get in contact with these companies. Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER 02 :
You're welcome. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.